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1	Mothers, what happened in your relationships when you opened up about the stress of parenthood/nursing/24 hour infant and toddler care/ parenting special needs children, or for non mothers, debilitating side effects of endo, PCOS, or adenomyosis?		JNRoberts42	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/03/23 04:19 PM

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4	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted The question is, since so many women have had unpleasant encounters with PUAs, how are they supposed to tell you apart?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 05:25 AM
6	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted The average guy is not. PUAs are smarmy salesmen, and some men are outcome invested and react badly when the sales pitch doesn’t go as they planned. PUAs follow women around until they are certain no men are nearby to interrupt if she appears uncomfortable. PUAs are intense and focused and goal-driven, and bring the same energy as any religious nutter intent on converting strangers. They make up contrived reasons to ask for help because they’ve been taught women are inclined to hold still and he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 05:07 AM
14	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted You are right but they rarely walk away, too invested in the outcome. It’s a hard sales pitch by a pushy salesman, not “simple small talk with random strangers” as some are trying to portray it here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 04:35 AM
10	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted No one in this thread said men aren’t allowed to talk to women. OP asked for opinions and several people gave their opinions. Don’t know why men ask unless they are just looking for an argument. And I already explained I’ll talk with strangers, but I have zero interest in PUAs and find the desperation and the entitlement to women’s time and attention off putting. Literally thousands of social events and social venues available for strangers to mingle. Nothing stopping men from using social space…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 04:32 AM
5	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted It’s just weird talking to people on Reddit as if they don’t know that there are lots of extroverted people who enjoy banter but don’t assume the banter is implying anything else than enjoying the moment with the person. Plausible deniability is how PUA save face when rejected. “I wasn’t flirting with you GOSH”	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 04:20 AM
6	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Did you make a beeline for a man or follow a man or elderly woman around until she was alone in an aisle? Are you talking to children or teens? Are you hanging around a man’s job and interrupting him with inane small talk? Nope. Plausible deniability just adds another layer of bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 04:03 AM
3	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted I don’t know what you are on about. Men are going to subscribe to whatever manosphere grifter horseshit the want to believe and they will continue to corner women regardless of how women feel about it. Men love cheat codes and many men here fall for whatever hack they believe will get them laid. Men know women’s generally acquiescent nature and aversion to conflict makes them a captive audience anyway. But women don’t have to like it and some men end up on social media because they flip out when…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 04:00 AM
2	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Me too and I still think Get out of her face, Tryhard	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:54 AM
6	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted When did the subject change from cold approaching women because he wants sex or romance to “talking to strangers”? Cold approaching straight men too now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:52 AM
3	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted And this https://tenor.com/bdTgA.gif	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:50 AM
4	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Reminds me of this https://tenor.com/bz51j.gif	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:49 AM
2	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Don’t care, not interested in desperate men with no friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:46 AM
7	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted The idea that PUAs feel they have the right to “test” women they beg for attention is laughable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:46 AM
4	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted I talk to strangers. I love strangers and have a resting smiling face. I don’t mind small talk at all. But self styled pick up artists are far too contrived and awkward to deal with. They can practice on someone else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:41 AM
4	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted No. Cold approaching isn’t a test of women’s personalities. Cold approaching is an act of desperation or entitlement, and he’s the person breaching etiquette and social norms because he wants female validation. Her reaction isn’t up for judgment. She can either giggle demurely, ignore him and flat leave, or whip out her phone and record. He’s the person demanding an audience, he doesn’t get to decide how she responds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:39 AM
1	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted I don’t have any idea how neurodivergent women feel about cold approach, but it’s possible they don’t mind it as much as women with an active social life. It’s possible they don’t have as many opportunities to meet men. But for the majority of women, it doesn’t matter if he wants sex or a Hallmark romance, he’s attempting to force a meetcute and it’s nearly always painfully awkward to hold still and watch some rando spit lines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:36 AM
14	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted I dont know how you figure it’s a strawman, but why in the world should any woman care if some rando thinks she’s attractive if she isn’t mutually attracted? One of the most repeated claims here is that most men find most women attractive, what’s special about the guy who interrupts her because he wants attention? There is no benefit whatsoever in the interruption for her, and on the off chance 1 of 99 woman does give him a chance, the chances are just as high he’s going to keep cold approaching…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:34 AM
17	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Agreed and the PUA/seduction/pick up subs advise every man they will have to approach 99 women for one phone number/lay. Who wants to be the only woman of 100 approaches who finally said yes? And what woman wants to attach herself to a man who roams stores and campuses he doesn’t belong to in search of female validation? To me the risk of him embarrassing himself, getting posted on social media, or getting banned from a store for acting weird is far too high. Solid no for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:14 AM
8	There is nothing inherently creepy about cold approaching and most women’s revulsion with it is unwarranted Do these women really want to rely more so on dating apps over in person courtship? I’m sure there are women who are flattered by any compliments and approaches whether they are interested or not. But I find cold approach in non social venues to be a nuisance and sometimes stressful depending on his body language and attitude. I’m unconcerned about approaches in social venues because that’s what social venues are for, but I still have no interest in a stranger whose only interest is the first ph…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 03:02 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope Because it’s easier to control women who don’t have their own money and method of escaping.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 01:19 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope He’d better be damn near perfect if he expects fawning and constant care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 01:19 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope Same. But I don’t think they have any concept of the generations of resentment and refuse to consider the reasons why middle aged women divorce as soon as the oldest leaves for college. Until they reflect on what life really looks like for the caretaker of the home and family for the duration of her marriage, they are going to struggle to find women who trust them to retain their independence and self-sufficiency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 12:26 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope I think most men here know the definition even if they get the spelling wrong, but when they describe “complementary partners” they describe a wife and mother who takes care of the exhausting minutia of every possible household and family tasks 24/7 while dad works 40, games 160, and gets one sided sex on tap. In other words, their idea of a complementary partner is a woman who treats them exactly the same as their mother does while also providing sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 12:21 AM
–	Women getting more attention is not inherently good for them So what if a really attractive woman handicaps her allure in some way. Like blacking out a tooth, dragging a leg, one comically large breast and one small? Or like… really soggy sneezes while sitting at the bar? Would she get a 1:1 love match in her own weight class then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 12:12 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope Here it is fellas, and most importantly, take note of the first and only proper spelling of the word complement in PPD history. Someone wife this one up quick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 12:08 AM
1	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? Why so he can ensure a dead bedroom and 5-50 years of tandem resentment?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/23 12:05 AM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope I’m not accepting the insulting and false premise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 10:22 PM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope The terms you chose are deliver condescending and patronizing and an extreme exaggeration of positive, masculine behaviors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 10:21 PM
–	Women misunderstand the "men being attracted to successful women" trope When women fantasize about getting into a relationship with a aggressive / toxic male Women don’t fantasize about aggressive, toxic males. Those terms are deliberately inflammatory. Some women prefer assertive, competent men. Do you want to talk about that? Or just pretend that attractive women with options prefer shitheads?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 10:17 PM
1	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? Those men aren’t participating because they don’t want to admit all the times they demand that women lower their standards and “pick me” the man who won’t cheat (because he has no other options) are expressly, explicitly demanding that women settle for men they aren’t attracted to. They don’t want to admit that blatantly. They want to make those demands via jabs and insults and revenge fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 10:11 PM
-1	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? Then change your preferences to reveal comments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:27 PM
1	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? It’s an anonymous website, not a popularity contest. Adults shouldn’t worry about votes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 09:19 PM
-1	What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say? Is it acceptable for men to refuse to date women for “spurious reasons”? Like nose rings, tattoos, blue hair, fake eye lashes, too much makeup, revealing clothing, or past boyfriends who were taller or more masculine?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:50 PM
0	What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say? Oh, so you saw that, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 08:48 PM
2	What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say? There is no description in the OP whatsoever, but there are constant threads from older virgins who defend age gap relationships because they want to be a young woman’s or teenaged girl’s first partner. Why don’t you elaborate if you know what he’s referring to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:47 PM
–	What can older guys do to not feel shortchanged in the dating world, like they say? Shortchanged as in didn’t get to enjoy deflowering a sixteen year old? What do you mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:33 PM
3	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? They can’t be compared to one another. Women in arranged marriages can rate their happiness relative to their station. They have no idea what a love marriage looks like. A woman in a love marriage cannot compare her experience to an arranged marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 07:32 PM
5	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? It isn’t speculation, women in forced marriages often write and speak about their unhappiness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 06:43 PM
6	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? Women in arranged marriages don’t have much choice. Many don’t work and most face lifelong social and family repercussions for divorce. Their satisfaction ratings are based on resignation, not happiness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 06:27 PM
-3	CMV: women have gotten so used to poor treatment, many don't know how to respond when treated well I think men tend to feel that every “favor” or effort deserves a reward. Meanwhile the same men expect women to cook three meals per day, clean up after them, feed and care for his kids and his dog, make all the appointments, rub his shoulders and wash his shit-stained underwear without expecting anything in return because caring is in women’s nature or whatever label they slap on entitlement to female care. Women open doors. Women help old ladies with their packages. Women make caring, supporti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 06:24 PM
3	Would you like women settle for you or even be forced to be with you? Do you even care about love? All of the TRP men I've argued with over the past couple weeks who do insist that women should settle for men are conspicuously absent from this discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 06:01 PM
2	It's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman for sex unless she is mentally challenged or something. I think that men who have a lower sex drive or cultural or religious inhibitions are better served by dating within their social sphere instead of obsessing over fratboys and fratgirls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:55 PM
–	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. My experience is the opposite. I haven't dated or even flirted with a single man who didn't immediately smother me with constant messages and texts, who didn't show up at my home or my job uninvited, and otherwise insert himself into my life at every opportunity until I resented him within a month. Same with my friends. Men smother. Men hover. Men dominate all our free time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:40 PM
14	Is the notion that men will sleep with just about any woman with a pulse misogynistic, misandrist or just accurate? Where are the men who pepper every single discussion with "Men find most women attractive"? Where are the men who inform their daughters, their sisters, and their partners that every man wants to fuck them and will try given the opportunity?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:38 PM
2	It's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman for sex unless she is mentally challenged or something. Does doing that respect the ability to consent of the new guys they're lying to in order to sleep with? None of his business. He wasn't in her life then and doesn't have ownership rights prior to their entanglement. Men are crazy with this shit. If they are so worried about how much fun a woman had with previous partners, they should marry a virgin when they are young. If they didn't, oh well. Live with the choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:34 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? This is an exceedingly gross conversation. I don't care at all about men who pose and posture and beg for female validation, I find it pathetic. I also find plausible deniability pathetic. "neither he just makes a general comment while doing something—-bends down to get a box oh shit man my legs hurt did legs today" But his issues have nothing to do with me. I have no problem ignoring men who stunt and posture because they are desperate for attention. Obvious men are obvious. No one cares.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:34 PM
-1	It's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman for sex unless she is mentally challenged or something. Johnny Bravo? A cartoon? What are you even talking about right now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:31 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? I don't have to tell him anything, he's just making noise at work. He isn't interfering with me at all, he's just desperate for attention and slightly annoying and painfully obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:28 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? How? What do men who whine about their sore muscles due to working out want besides a woman's attention? They sure AF aren't whining to men about their sore muscles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:27 PM
3	It's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman for sex unless she is mentally challenged or something. No one is required to have sex they don't want to have. But if a man over the age of 18 expects women his age to have zero sexual experience so he can feel like a boss, that's on him. He had the same opportunities to date and have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:26 PM
2	It's almost impossible for a man to "use" a woman for sex unless she is mentally challenged or something. Does doing that respect the ability to consent of the new guys they're lying to in order to sleep with? None of his business. He wasn't in her life then and doesn't have ownership rights prior to their entanglement. Men are crazy with this shit. If they are so worried about how much fun a woman had with previous partners, they should marry a virgin when they are young. If they didn't, oh well. Live with the choices.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:21 PM
–	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Men don't like sharing and attempt to lock a woman down as soon as possible. Surely you've seen women complaining about men smothering them, texting and messaging all day, showing up where they work, and monopolizing all their time? The insane jealousy of other male platonic friends? Men may not want the responsibilities of marriage and family, but they definitely want to claim ownership of a woman they like as early as possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:13 PM
1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? How could you possibly know this?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 03:11 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? There it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 02:11 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? “Aww, want me to massage it for you?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 02:10 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? A new coworker stands in doorways stretching and flexing and whining about leg day or whatever. I almost recorded him an hour ago and considered blurring out his face and posting it, but I hate the idea of recording people without their consent. This guy is very short and prefers petite chubby women, he isn’t actually interested in me because I’m very tall. But I’m the only woman in the office so he bugs the shit out of me with his tales of heroism (he’s an amateur MMA fighter) and horseshit abo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 02:10 PM
1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? I disagree. Almost every man can tell you all about the “hot server” or the sexy or cute cashier they assumed was flirting with them. Men cruise Facebook in search of vacation pics to jerk off to, look up old female classmates, and damn near constantly search for and find complete strangers on social media because they want some sort of attention from her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 02:06 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? Does he need sympathy because he’s ill? Or is he whining for attention in front of women he wants to impress because he works out?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 12:10 PM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? This is the one. Pick me behavior is repellent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:58 AM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? No one can fall in love with someone they don’t know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:57 AM
–	What are the signs you notice from desperate people? Simpering behavior, phony chivalry, blatant bids for attention (moaning about sore muscles after a workout, posing and stretching, loud and obnoxious behavior, putting down other men in an attempt to elevate themselves, “you’re not like other girls” comments, contrived reasons to converse with strangers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:57 AM
1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? It isn’t a useless question. The vast majority of men spend all their time in public and work evaluating and ranking women into “fuckable” and “unfuckable” and ignore women’s humanity. While simultaneously complaining that women “ignore” them as potential sexual beings. It’s a ridiculous complaint and the OP addresses it perfectly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:52 AM
0	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? , I don't use socioeconomic class as anything like an important filter when determining if I find someone attractive or not This isn’t a virtue. It means your attraction is shallow and limited to physical attributes and you don’t care if you share common experiences, common values, and common goals. It means you’ll date or fuck a woman based on nothing other than her physical appearance. Pretending that women who care about who people are is discriminatory is gross.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:48 AM
2	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? It’s the same for most women. Obviously attractive people stand out and are noticed and surreptitiously admired, but most women don’t entertain thoughts of pursuing and dating men who are far out of their range. It’s a passing glance, “Oh, he’s cute” and life goes on without action or fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:44 AM
4	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? The same men can’t understand why they blend into the background noise as most women ignore men who eye fuck women. If they are overlooked but anywhere near average looking, it’s because of their thirsty behavior and mannerisms. It very easy to just look over and past men who appraise bodies and obviously attempt to get attention and eye contact. The men who are just normal and smile or make pleasant noises or small talk get an entirely different warm response.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:41 AM
1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? Men who pay for prostitutes didn’t “attract them”, they pay them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 12:13 AM
–	Sex Toys I’d see a confirmed death grip due to porn addiction and forget he ever existed. Toys are an addition for later in a mutually gratifying relationship. If they are needed in the initial mutually fascinated stages, someone suffers sexual dysfunction and that’s the end of excitement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:59 PM
1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? I’m 27. I assure you that divorced middle aged man are not desirable for either their bodies, competence, or money. But there are an equal number of middle aged divorced women willing to consider their counterparts if they are somehow compatible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:57 PM
1	4 things I feel men should always remember. Voice of reason right here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:43 PM
-1	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? el. Women have limited options when theyre older No they don’t. This revenge fantasy is easily disproven as women initiate divorces at an astronomical rate the minute the kids are grown. Literally millions of divorced middle aged men seeking women. Have you heard of dating apps? Men exponentially outnumber women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:40 PM
2	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? So tell men to stop begging women to settle for them unless they are willing to accept dead bedrooms. There are two clear and distinct choices. Women commit to men they are mutually sexually attracted to, or women settle for men they are not and those men have no business demanding sexual favors for the duration of the marriage unless it’s on her terms. Cause straight men sure as fuck make it real clear they are not willing to allow people to use their holes unless they are mutually sexually att…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:21 PM
–	Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men Seek help for your lying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:13 PM
–	Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men YOU are the only person who made that horseshit claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:11 PM
3	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." A pick me claims to be a better choice than the popular option. Which is the entire “high value male” agenda.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 11:09 PM
–	Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men What the fuck? I never said that what is wrong with you	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 10:53 PM
5	Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men Women love their friends, brothers, fathers, cousins, and uncles. Do you think a lack of sexual attraction is treating men like shit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 09:03 PM
–	Women's struggles in dating are in no way equal to that of men So you are saying normal ass men are equal to a coke addict? If they aren’t attracted to them, normal ass men are equal to women, or brothers, cousins, fathers, or grandfathers. Yeah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 08:53 PM
0	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." Women simultaneously have a far lower drive for sex and a far higher ability to get it. Myth. The only reason men believe this is because women often settle for “good men” due to religious or conservative pressure. Ask any man who has been with women who were attracted to them how “low” women’s sex drives are. Or date women who are mutually attracted and who lack cultural or religious inhibitions. Or visit any of the subs in which women freely offer their bodies and videos of them masturbating w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 08:47 PM
5	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? Now that there are a dozen responses, is this the space where women admit we understand why this vexes some men? We get it. If a man is considering flirting with or asking a woman out, or spending time fantasizing about her, he’s going to feel frustration or disappointment that she barely considers him at all, and doesn’t consider him a potential romantic or sexual partner. But that doesn’t mean she regards him as sub-human. It means he’s wasted his time and energy fantasizing about a woman who …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 07:07 PM
2	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." No idea, go ask women who become attracted to men over time. Most women aren’t attracted to most men until they’ve established some sort of rapport and connection. That doesn’t mean that women deliberately or willfully become attracted to men. It means that men are just generic people until there is a mutual connection. Is this what you are misunderstanding? Do you feel that women consciously choose to feel sexual attraction for men? Because that isn’t it at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 07:03 PM
4	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." Explain step by step how someone can simply become attracted to someone they are not. Then turn the same advice on every single man here who complains he doesn’t like obese or overweight women or women with piercings, tattoos, and colored hair and instruct those men to become attracted to women they are not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:57 PM
1	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." If you believe this to be true than you and the other men here should have no trouble adjusting your physical attraction to the ugliest women within reach. Let me know how that works out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:29 PM
2	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? Quote it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:16 PM
3	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? I didn’t see anyone except you refer to human beings as objects, I certainly didn’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:08 PM
0	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." If sexual attraction could somehow be created or negotiated, there would be no dead bedrooms, no cheating, and men and women would settle for the first platonic friend they shared values with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:04 PM
1	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." Maybe, if he’s asexual. If he expects a mutually gratifying sex life for the duration of the marriage, he isn’t going to have that with a woman who isn’t sexually attracted to him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:46 PM
5	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? There is no difference whatsoever and there is nothing wrong with regarding the average person as a person rather than a potential romantic or sexual partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:18 PM
8	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." I’m not concerned about men’s discomfort with this reality. The entire “high value man” trope is nothing but men claiming they are not like the other guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:14 PM
4	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? How is this any different from how men treat older women? Or obese women? Explain it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:04 PM
1	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." Blaming women for picking bad partners is a face-saving a work around for male pick-me behavior. What those men invariably mean is “she should have picked guys like me who are better choices than popular men”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:03 PM
12	What percentage of men attract you? What is your opinion of the men who don't attract you? All funny, relaxed men with easy grins and a good laugh are socially attractive to me. If those men also are strong with big shoulders and excellent posture they are also physically attractive…so long as they are around my age. Whether or not I find men attractive isn’t really important since I’m not attracted to anyone until or unless we’ve established some common interests and common experiences. There has to be chemistry and rapport before I even consider romance or sex. The vast majority of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 04:00 PM
11	"Never compare yourself to her ex" but she definitely will You're missing or denying the point; he has no way to know how to be "awesome at sex" unless she communicates her needs and desires to him in a way that is intelligible to him. How did the first guy do so well?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 01:34 PM
3	List of behavior and visual cues that red pillers use to identify a "low value woman" So… this is a shopping list for women who want to repel red pilled men? Clothes that are too tight, too short and/or show too much cleavage Brands like Shein and Fashion Nova Visible logos/fake designer brands Faux fur/faux leather Animal prints (leopard/zebra) Ripped tights Booty shorts Leggings when not doing sports Braless in public	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 01:53 AM
12	What's your hot taking about dating? Something you believe based on things you've experienced, but would typically go against the grain of what people say here? Most people date within their social group and values. If someone is ghosted, the lack of chemistry is due to the lack of rapport and common experience. Gold diggers and foodie dates are myth men use as an excuse not to date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 09:24 PM
3	Were the mean girls that you knew promiscuous? In my experience it was religious girls. But they were also pretty mean. Ha ha two people sent me this Gif. I guess it’s a common experience. https://images.app.goo.gl/beT6L4tXPwoiKaTc6 (It’s a clip from the movie Saved, apparently, which I’m going to watch with my foster sisters tonight. Thanks for the recommendation)	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 07:37 PM
-1	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" It’s “I prefer a man who is invested in my happiness and goals as well, not an entitled one dimensional man who only cares if I can replace his Mommy.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 05:15 PM
2	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Listen, we need to talk. This isn’t working out for me, I’m just not feeling it. Enjoyed the drink though, good luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 05:14 PM
5	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" Men complain about women constantly, people confide in their friends when experiencing typical frustrations. Askmen and every relationship/marriage/dating sub is dominated by men complaining about their frustrations with women. Searching for fault in typical human behavior is ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 04:27 PM
1	Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse" I’ve noticed the opposite trend. Orbiters whining that women choose bad men because any woman who dares to share the typical, common complaints of relationship troubles or breakups should never confide in male friends, lest they interpret the complaints as a call to action. As in “I’ve watched my friend flat mistreated in three relationships now and she never picks a nice guy like me who would never cheat or forget her birthday”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 04:24 PM
3	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? I don’t know what you are talking about but if Chad is persistent when staring at or approaching a woman who isn’t interested, he’s creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 01:58 PM
6	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Humans live in a society and follow lots of inconvenient social conventions. It's inconvenient to eat beside of messy, screaming kids, and inconvenient to shop when toddlers are running around the aisle crashing into things and generally being loud and disruptive, but kids have to learn and grow, so most of us simply smile benevolently and walk around them. It's inconvenient to wait in line when bigger and strong people could just muscle their way to the front. Bras suck for many women and it wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 01:15 PM
6	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Your point is about “fairness”, which is horseshit. There is no fairness. A woman doesn’t mind if a man she is interested in stares at her or approaches. Because that is wanted attention. A woman is uncomfortable if a man she doesn’t like persists in starting and approaching. The different is wanted versus unwanted attention. If a woman is married and disinterested in the most attractive man in the office and the most attractive man in the office stares at her and approaches and flirts despite h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 12:25 PM
4	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Unwanted attention is creepy. If attractive man stared at you Wanted attention is not creepy. Every human prefers attention from people they find attractive versus people they do not, including creepy men. Creepy men prefer attractive women, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 12:12 PM
2	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Did he glance in their direction or stare at them? Both men and women who stare can be described as creepy. Social convention requires basic manners, people who ignore social convention are creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 12:09 PM
4	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Creepy describes unwanted attention or behavior. If someone doesn’t want to flirt with or talk to a person and they keep trying, that’s creepy. If the person leers or stares rudely, that’s creepy. Yes, even if Jeremy does exactly the same thing as Chad, he’s being creepy if she doesn’t want Jeremy’s attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 12:08 PM
4	Does demonization of sexuality affect you? Though, how much it really affects your life? Do you have any real experience and examples of being shamed for sexuality? Not at all, not even when I lived in the Bible Belt and attended school with kids who routinely went to Catholic or Protestant church. Not even when I lived near a large Mormon population. Because all those kids were having sex and lying about it. Catholics and Mormons were having anal sex, giving handjobs, and petting through clothing until orgasm. And lying about it. My par…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 12:04 PM
1	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men Let me ask you some things. Do people who don’t have a dog run the same risk of dog bites as people who own dogs? Yes or no? Do people who live alone experience domestic violence at the same rate as people who live with a partner? Yes or no? You know the answers, so why do men in the manosphere echo chamber keep passing around these false claims? Domestic violence occurs because of proximity and opportunity. The person you spend 16-24 hours per day with, share life’s stressors with, children, fa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 11:28 AM
0	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? Women give the advice which fits the man. He’s too ugly or weird to get the women he finds attractive? Them maybe he can appeal to women with a lower sex drive and find a “nice girl” who will appreciate his other attributes. He’s too much of a loner to get the attention of popular girls? Well, women can’t tell him to “just be popular”, but women will tell him to find another loner. Men don’t want practical advice. They want cheat codes and panaceas because they can’t objectively consider their l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 09:35 PM
2	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? Ask almost any woman where she learned how to feel defensive or nervous around men, and she will tell you from her father, he pastor, he brothers, and uncles. When men say “Don’t wear this and don’t go there because I know how boys are” and “Because I was a boy once and I know how they think and behave” why shouldn’t women take their advice? Especially when the only men who take offense are the very men who admittedly want something from women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 08:01 PM
1	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? Did the same men teach themselves to drive by playing GTA?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 07:40 PM
0	Why do men feel entitled to romance and or intimacy? Most people want traditional aspects when it suits them and turn around and not want to do the same aspects. This goes both ways. It’s been established that traditional masculine roles are not within reach of most men demanding tradwives. Most men seeking traditional roles are not physically strong, they have soft gamer bodies and rounded shoulders, they do not command respect from others, they are not competent with household upkeep and repairs, they want to teach their children how to play Cal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 07:38 PM
–	The thing women don't understand is that there are millions of eligible women out there and a lot of guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. Most men want sex. Most women want relationship benefits. This is one of the most tone-deaf refrains in this sub. No woman wants a relationship with a man she is physically repelled by, and if he wants sex for the duration of their marriage, she’s going to be coerced or pressured to serve as his human fleshlight. The solution is for men to get it through their heads that women want to have sex with men they are attracted to. Not settle for lying beneath a sweating, rutting ogre for eternity just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 07:19 PM
–	The thing women don't understand is that there are millions of eligible women out there and a lot of guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. Just go look at couples who are out shopping this weekend if you want to know about women’s preferences. You don’t need women to spell it out, just use your eyes. You’ll find quickly there are just as many unattractive men with partners as attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 07:11 PM
–	The thing women don't understand is that there are millions of eligible women out there and a lot of guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. Why in the world do men keep believing ragebait? Stop paying grifters’ bills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 04:07 PM
–	"Treat women as human beings" Gotta walk before you can run. If a man has no female friends or worse, actively dislikes women, he can’t possibly expect to figure out flirting and mutual attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:58 PM
–	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? Does he possess free will? Why in the world is he paying for a woman’s attention? We both know the implied contract is designed to get her drunk and loosen her inhibitions so she will consider sex with a man she otherwise wouldn’t. It’s an outdated, grotesque behavior and it’s groveling. I buy beer for lots of people. Friends, the acquaintance who just got promoted, the man or woman who wrecked the bike or got hurt playing ball, the man or woman who scored the winning run or winning game point. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:31 PM
–	The thing women don't understand is that there are millions of eligible women out there and a lot of guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. It’s worse than the idea of forced unions. It’s the idea that women are community property; a shared commodity rather than people. Frustrated men reliably point out that attractive, popular men get laid for merely existing, so unattractive, unpopular men deserve the same. They don’t acknowledge the rights of women to choose a partner; they want women divided up and distributed equally among all men as though women are an agricultural product or basic human right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:24 PM
–	The thing women don't understand is that there are millions of eligible women out there and a lot of guys can't get ONE (1) girlfriend. How do women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:40 PM
–	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? Oh, you called it a favor. So now you admit it's an attempt to obligate a woman's time and attention. then why does she accept the perks of the contract she has no interest in fulfilling? She fulfilled her obligation by accepting the drink. She isn't obligated to like him or feel attraction. Hopefully younger men will learn something from this thread. 1) Don't treat women like prostitutes 2) Don't pretend something is free when it is not 3) If a man has to pay a woman to even chat with him, he h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:28 PM
11	The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: children But it isn’t consecutively and there are dozens of other things to do including holding, playing with, and helping infants and kids achieve milestones as well as taking care of the home, the rest of the family, and herself. Anyone who minimizes the work and responsibilities of raising children is either leaving the work to someone else or neglecting their children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:12 PM
–	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? Because the very action of giving an alcoholic beverage to a woman is designed to reduced her inhibitions and obligate her time and attention. It was never a gift or a freebie, it was a contract.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:04 PM
–	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? I wouldn’t refer to obligating a woman’s time and attention with an alcoholic beverage a value at all. It’s the opposite.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:57 PM
13	The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: children For how many months or years did your children sleep 16 hours a day with no interruptions, no changing, no feeding, no playing, bonding, or other stimulating activities infants need in order to hit milestones and grow? Be reasonable right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:41 PM
18	The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: children Not a parent, huh? Infants eat every 2-4 hours and need diaper changes more often than that. Post eating they require burping and cuddling and brain stimulating activities in order to them to develop and grow. Many babies struggle with digestive issues for a number of reasons. Babies also get sick frequently because their immune systems aren’t robust for several years. It’s a round the clock job and it’s damn near impossible to take care of all the other chores, the other kids, and catch a showe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:29 PM
–	The one factor that ruins many marriages that we're apparently not allowed to discuss: children If both are alive. If both are healthy enough to care for infants and toddlers. If both live nearby. Yours is a very unlikely scenario for most people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:01 PM
2	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? I’ve never seen anyone criticize competence before, it’s a peculiar take for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 10:16 AM
–	"Treat women as human beings" Men say this as though there is some benefit to his friendship in particular when he was never a decent friend in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 09:21 AM
3	cock blocking your friends against their wishes Not if you enjoy seeing women get hurt.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 04:25 AM
1	"Treat women as human beings" Oh, there you are. I knew you’d pop up again, I should have recognized you when you started spamming every one of my comments. Good luck on your search for another ban.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 04:07 AM
-1	"Treat women as human beings" *anti red pill bias Men are great. The crab pot which is the red pill is a virulent pus-filled cult which causes young men irreparable emotional harm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:59 AM
0	Better Bachelor’s audience is absolutely insane Still a better choice than woman hating misogynists who are guaranteed to bring violence and seething rage to a marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:56 AM
0	Better Bachelor’s audience is absolutely insane Mmm someone could consider proximity and opportunity before pretending that women choose violent men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:47 AM
0	Better Bachelor’s audience is absolutely insane Thus confirming that rejection is risky indeed. Please see r/whenwomenrefuse	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:41 AM
1	"Treat women as human beings" So following a rule that involves granting value to others is Not a big fan of The Constitution, huh? The ERA must have really bunched your panties.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:39 AM
9	cock blocking your friends against their wishes You minimized the risks of allowing a man to take a drunk woman home. Joking around and calling it cockblocking when it has the potential to ruin multiple lives is hideously antisocial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:37 AM
1	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot Is there an apology about the unholy terror which is childbirth? Anything at all about the carnage and catastrophic destruction of the birth canal and perineum?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 03:16 AM
3	"Treat women as human beings" What reason do men have to relate to most women on any deep level So don’t. Fight them off with a stick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:41 AM
2	"Treat women as human beings" I don’t need to “like” a scholar who got a couple things right. But anyone over the age of 13 should have a passing familiarity with basic ethics. Sadly many people here didn’t pay attention in school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:40 AM
1	"Treat women as human beings" Kant is as an asshole, common for his ilk in that time. But he got this right. Here is a simplification for people who don’t understand. You’re welcome. “ If a person is an end-in-themself it means their inherent value doesn't depend on anything else - it doesn't depend on whether the person is enjoying their life, or making other people's lives better. We exist, so we have value.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 02:38 AM
2	"Treat women as human beings" You want examples? Take a look at the legions of PPD men who claim that women purposely choose violent men as partners over “kind gentlemen” and nearly all men claim that women are “safer” than men. And if you have to ask why they are hilariously wrong, don’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:29 AM
2	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? Toxic masculinity has fuck-all to do with women. It’s the ridiculous social pressure men put on one another and themselves to uphold some ancient John Wayne/Clint Eastwood level of competence, stoicism, and potential for violence against anyone weaker. It ain’t women calling men pussies. It’s how men treat one another. It’s men’s problem, not women’s. Men are on their own here. Women can’t fix this one with a bandaid and soothing words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:38 AM
10	cock blocking your friends against their wishes If you don’t care about men risking rape charges and unwanted pregnancy, 18 years of child support and the shame and social pressure of taking part in their own children’s lives because of ten minutes of unrestrained sex, why should men? Go for it. Let your friends make life changing and potentially punitive decisions. The rest of us will look out for our friends and take care of them and extend that care to strangers and potentially neglected children.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:35 AM
11	cock blocking your friends against their wishes It’s the same thing, not sure what the problem is. Don’t let people you care about make life-changing decisions for at least three people. Calling it cock blocking is ignoring the very real risks of rape, STIs, and unwanted pregnancy. Men don’t want unwanted pregnancy or rape charges, either, so minimizing the risk is antisocial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:32 AM
4	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? Toxic femininity is precisely the same as toxic masculinity, both are pick me behaviors. “He isn’t a real man if he cries and can’t win a fight and /she isn’t a real woman if she can’t clean a house and swallow cum”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:26 AM
1	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? Hemsworth hasn’t been filmed or quoted making fun of weaker, sensitive and unpopular men, so why in the world would you use him as an example of toxic masculinity?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:22 AM
19	cock blocking your friends against their wishes Friends don’t let friends get raped.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:18 AM
9	cock blocking your friends against their wishes Are you serious? Because she’s clearly drunk	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 12:11 AM
0	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? Excellent woman repellent, if that’s their goal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 11:57 PM
3	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? It’s an easy question.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 11:23 PM
2	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? What is your definition of masculine?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 11:23 PM
4	cock blocking your friends against their wishes In a world where commercial fortunes have been made by the creation and sale of drink protectors, men rape unconscious, alcohol poisoned women in filthy alleys behind dumpsters and and code words and hand signs are necessary for women’s safety, women need sober women to look out for them. It is not safe to let drunk friends wander off with strange men. If he is angry and frustrated, let’s see how attractive he is to a sober woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:49 PM
5	Where do most women draw the line with toxically masculine behaviour? There seems to be an almost universal understanding at least in the west that extremely masculine behaviours are usually stemming from deep set insecurity and dysfunctional upbringing So a man who can repair broken machinery, lift heavy weights, and move a ball ten yards down a field is a deeply insecure person? Perhaps you could define masculine behaviors, because the claim that masculine behaviors reveal insecurity sounds sus.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:45 PM
3	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? How is she supposed to know if he sucks before they chat? How is she supposed to know if the attraction is mutual before they talk? If a man can’t start or hold a conversation without paying for it with a drink, what’s the likelihood the interaction is going in his favor?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:38 PM
1	Is she a tease or are your feelings just hurt? What service does a single drink purchase? Because it sure sounds like men willfully and deliberately attempt to obligate a woman’s attention and her services with the inauthentic, horseshit offer to buy a drink.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:36 PM
-1	"Treat women as human beings" If he wants romance or sex from me and I don’t, he can accept platonic friendship or get lost.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 10:14 PM
5	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot That's why I said cut the shit, you've obviously seen the flawed character which is Harley Quinn. Not my fault Eve disobeyed the Lord first before Adam. God still punished them both if you ever bothered to actually read the Bible. Are you familiar with the concept of Original Sin or not? Are you going to deny that every single arm of Abrahamic religion portrays women as Occasions to Sin, that school dress codes against showing shoulders or bra straps are inspired by men's inability to control th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:22 PM
1	"Treat women as human beings" because you'd say that a guy who did see her as having a life outside of her ability to satisfy his needs sees her as merely a means to an end just because he has needs. Okay, I'm aware that many, many men on PPD and TRP have never taken Statistics 101, but how can men also have no understanding of basic Philosophy, which is required curriculum necessary to understand history and politics? Were most of them homeschooled? I don't get it. If you don't understand the most elementary concept in phil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:17 PM
1	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot Well then I assume you are lost and only arrived at the discussion of popular fiction because you followed a username here. No point in continuing unless you plan to consider the OP and the context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:05 PM
6	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot They identify with Gump, the accidental hero despite his disability. Every woman who didn't properly appreciate him and offer marriage and oral sex on demand is apparently the villain. I want to feel frustration but this is just a tragic epiphany. My brother and his friends are all on the spectrum. He jumped up halfway through the movie he was required to watch for a writing class and refused to watch it. I wrote his paper without understanding what pissed him off. I assumed it was the historica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:03 PM
12	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot Honey... have you seen fiction? Are you aware of how many movies portray women as villains? "Mean girl" is a constant trope, as is "gold digger", "shitty mother", as is whore. Monroe and Bacall in How to Marry a Millionaire. Theron in 2 Days in the Valley. On this long weekend, I suggest you watch San Giacomo's character in Sex, Lies, and Videotape,. Watch Robie as Harely Quinn. Spacek in Carrie. Actually, damn near every woman in a King film. What sort of victim complex leads you to believe tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:00 PM
3	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot Did you bother to read the OP you are posting in, or do you, two, believe that fiction is real life? Forest Gump is not a documentary...	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:52 PM
-1	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot It's wild how often TRP and PPD men refer to fiction as though it's canon and applicable advice about how to human. Perhaps some people aren't mentally equipped to appreciate or understand fiction and fantasy. Perhaps they should stick to documentaries or avoid anything with any semblance of art or social dilemmas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:46 PM
3	Men are currently experiencing their Heroin Chic era How many of those are you and your alts? How many of those subscribers are other men who are obsessed and fixated on that sub who shitpost and crosspost in order to incite brigades? A former mod here posted a TwoX thread every single day. Never missed a single thread and frequently posted comments in order to encourage downvotes from other disenfranchised men. How many of those subscribers are actually active participants or even women at all?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:43 PM
1	"Treat women as human beings" I think it only serves to give the advice-giver a sense of "I am progressive and pure while this poor incel must be confused and think women are objects" Nice edit. It means "If he only talks to a woman because he wants something from her, she's not going to trust him. And if she isn't romantically or sexually interested and he persists anyway, she should run because he's going to become a pest or stalker".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:30 PM
1	"Treat women as human beings" If you're a particularly unappealing man, there's a good chance that the majority of your interactions with women end with being brushed off or outright shooed honestly. If he's showing unwanted romantic or sexual interest? Yeah, obviously that isn't welcome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:25 PM
9	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot I can't be the only person utterly grossed out by the mischaracterization of both characters as moral/amoral, right? But this is the same sub where men swear they learned to persist and stalk women because of nerd-gets-the-girl movies, which they clearly never completed, because the only nerd which got the girl raped her. (Revenge of the Nerds)	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:16 PM
7	Just rewatched Forrest Gump and it made me think about dating a lot Good lord. I realize OP is an attempt at drawing a conclusion from fiction, but Gump, despite all his charms, was an expressionless mouth breather who had terrible posture, dressed like a child, lacked any semblance of social skills and was the epitome of the fish-out-of-water trope while also displaying terrible judgment. Newsflash: Gump isn't Hanks. Hoffman isn't Rainman. and Stiller isn't Simple Jack. The expressionless, awkward, and easily confused and easily frustrated characters are unattr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:13 PM
1	"Treat women as human beings" The men with women around them are the ones women wanted to be around in the first place. Yep. Most people prefer to spend time with likeable, easy going, fun people vs an intense, focused man who is clearly only talking to a woman because he wants something from her and not because he's just generally interested in her as a person or a potential friend. Most women are skittish wtf. Most women are people, and if a man she isn't attracted to dials in on her with laser focus, she isn't skittish, s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 08:03 PM
2	"Treat women as human beings" It's men who are at ease with women, who have female friends, who hang out with women, who play sports or goof around with women, who eat lunch and shop with women... You know. Men who don't only interact with women they want romance or sex from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 07:45 PM
6	"Treat women as human beings" But for a handsome dude, he must treat women great because he gets girlfriends. Do you notice anything different about the behavior of popular men vs men who aren't successful with women? Which men have no problem working with women, studying with women, or chatting with female strangers of any age? Which men dial in with laser focus on the woman they have a crush on regardless of her level of interest?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 07:17 PM
-4	"Treat women as human beings" What assumptions are bigoted?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 07:00 PM
6	"Treat women as human beings" That's such a nebulous statement as to be useless. ... you don't know what it means? Kant is standard 8th grade introduction to philosophy If a guy has tomantic needs, he must ipso facto be treating women like a means to an end... If he doesn't respect her life outside of whatever romance and sex she provides, yes, that's precisely how he sees her. That's how most men here see women, because (glances back at the title and OP) men here don't regard women as fully realized human beings with the sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:44 PM
4	Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other? You aware that the entire practice of medicine, health care, and each and every vaccine and cure was created and implemented by people with an education? Logical, rational people who don't screech about contrails, adenochrome and DNA altering vaccines, but who are entirely responsible for the existence of most humans today who would have died in infancy of TB, Polio, whooping cough, and rubella? The morons who brought chicken pox back to life did nothing to "build the world" but they are certain…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:40 PM
1	"Treat women as human beings" Why in the hell would a man be nervous around women? They are the people he grew up with in school. The people he works with. The people he sees working and socializing in public spaces. The only reason a man would be nervous around a woman is if he regards them as someone different than human? Some other species.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:33 PM
5	Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other? Also, funny story, conservatives tried to make a "right wing dating app" called The Right Stuff to help conservative men and women meet. However, the app failed because there were not enough women. Not much in the past ten years has been funny, but that was hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:26 PM
4	Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other? Anti-intellectualism is indeed gross. The world watched as conservatives squealed anti-vax sentiment then clogged up emergency departments and cemeteries as they dropped like flies from unchecked Covid. The anti-vax, anti-education conservatives who survived continue to eschew education and common sense until Gram-Gram gets cancer and they can't rush to the hospital quickly enough for radioactive chemo, bone marrow transplants, and transfusions from donors who (gasp) are likely to have been vacc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:22 PM
9	"Treat women as human beings" Are you asking why you shouldn't project one-sided, unwanted romantic and sexual feelings and behavior on someone who isn't interested?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:16 PM
4	"Treat women as human beings" You didn't read that post. Go right now to the gym and leer and gawk at other men. Look them up and down, make sure you make eye contact and give that nod of approval or lascivious grin. Catcall them, too. And be sure to get in their personal space and put your hands on men's hips because you absolutely must grind up against their asses as you scooch past. Send men dick pics and follow them around school or stores. Show up unannounced and uninvited at spaces you know they will be. Hang around me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:14 PM
6	"Treat women as human beings" That's not it. It means stop treating women as a means to an end but ends in themselves. Women are not accessories to men, even when those women are mutually attracted. She still has her own history, her own sociopolitical views, her own goals, her own internal and external life, her own education, her own agenda. It means stop treating women as some alien other and communicate with them as anyone else, and reserve the romantic or sexual projecting for the woman who actually returns the interest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:11 PM
4	"Treat women as human beings" Nah, just unpopular during their formative years and seeking a method of punishing the foes from their past who still live rent free in their minds. It's sour grapes, nothing more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:09 PM
7	"Treat women as human beings" will treat the people you are attracted to different than others. If they aren't mutually attracted, they will find that behavior off-putting and repellent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:06 PM
1	Men are currently experiencing their Heroin Chic era It's telling how you have to go back 30+ years in order to find arbitrary, vague examples of your victim narrative Establishing a historical pattern which is a constant today. Women on social media, most especially female gamers are treated horribly by men. Men have trained women that it's acceptable to push back and find fault with men. Men who can't take a joke or who can't take criticism are far too delicate and sensitive to view TwoX. Perhaps you could message Reddit Admins and explain you f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 06:04 PM
0	Men are currently experiencing their Heroin Chic era Really. So in the previous hundred years of pop culture, how were women treated? Was forty years of making a female costars nipples the supporting role in some way flattering and uplifting to women? How about all the beat-your-wife jokes from the Honeymooners through Matt Rife’s latest spike in popularity? Maybe you felt all the rape scenes in teenage comedies during the 80s and 90s were somehow savory? The hate your wife jokes from I Love Lucy to Married With Childen? How about 70 years of grat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 05:52 PM
-1	Men are currently experiencing their Heroin Chic era Dude there are dozens of “male spaces” women do not participate in and but find alarming when someone links to it. The men’s rights sub has nothing to do with men’s rights, every post is about women. It’s used as a call to brigade female posters and they link to active and popular relationship and dating threads hourly. No one cares. If men don’t like to read about women expressing frustration it’s super easy to simply not read it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 04:51 PM
6	Men are currently experiencing their Heroin Chic era Men’s fixation on that support sub is bizarre. The sub is for women seeking feedback and advice with problems they experience in life, it is not a space for casual conversation nor is it a space where women who are happy with their home and work environments to brag about how pleasant their lives are. TwoX does not represent women's overall life experience, it’s an infinitesimally small slice of women who are struggling with some dilemma.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 04:04 PM
1	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? I… don’t know where you go out to socialize, but the purpose of social venues is to interact with everyone, not just the people you show up with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:51 PM
1	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. You are wrong or operating exclusively in a conservative or religious environment. Sexual compatibility is extremely important to women and if he’s terrible in bed or the chemistry is off, or worse, he becomes needy and demanding as men reliably do, a woman will absolutely cut ties with him. Women desiring relationships desperately is not universal, it isn’t even common for women my age. Men are the people desperate to lock a woman down and make sure another man can’t get at her. But I do believ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:49 PM
1	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? Friends aren’t required to set you up, that’s your job. Going out with friends makes it easier to meet and mingle with strangers at social venues. A loner wandering around begging for attention is not going to have the same options to chat with strangers as someone who is with friends. Social proof is a thing, and almost no one wants to be stuck with a loner who expects to be invited to hang out with them for the night.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:43 PM
2	Do you think different politics will keep men and women from dating each other? Women will pretend Ben Shapiro makes good points. Ha ha no this does not happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:34 PM
2	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Each man that she sleeps with decided not to pursue a relationship with her, Women decide not to pursue relationships with men all the time. Most complaints about ghosting come from men. There are complaints from men on several subs daily in which men are frustrated about the inability to get a second date even after they’ve slept together. Men and women are not diametrically opposed. Their behavior and attitudes line up on many things. All women do not desire relationships with a man they dated…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:22 PM
1	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table shrug Competence is masculine. Every man I work with does everything on the list, though maybe not so physically attractive. Men only recently lost the willingness and ability to fix things and take care of rugged chores. I prefer traditional masculinity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 09:39 AM
1	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table Stone Age	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:15 AM
2	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table I’ve been wondering, does she have to mop, or does he?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:13 AM
2	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table Call me	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:13 AM
5	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table Is he competent? Can he fix all the things? I don’t want a man who is too dainty to change the oil and the brakes or who can’t change the blades on the mower and repair the plumbing. Carpentry and other construction work is important as well. Skill and experience in cooking is required. I expect him to pass down these skills and competence to our children. He also needs to remain in peak physical shape and should be able to beat me in a race. He should also drive a manual transmission seamlessly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 03:06 AM
7	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table Pretty sure you overlooked the word half which is mentioned three times in my post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:46 AM
16	The reality is that women do not bring desired traits to the table If I expect my partner to do half of the house hold chores, half the cooking, and half the childrearing why the hell would I care what lazy, entitled momma’s boys want? Men really in here pretending that women are dying for the attention of trad men who won’t behave like responsible, independent adults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:44 AM
11	Sex before physical maturity & potential for consequences I’m a mouse on a tiny keyboard and I, too, promise OP doesn’t know what he is talking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 02:40 AM
5	Dear women of PPD, what do you think - is this place suitable for constructive discussion? Women don’t want those men. But women also don’t want those men to prey on vulnerable women in other countries. Women don’t want to make their problems (unwanted men) other women’s problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 08:43 PM
4	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? Cookouts. Movie night. Parties. Holidays. Since when does get together mean sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:56 PM
5	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? The fuck? No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:48 PM
0	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? I'm a woman. I'm the one who makes the effort to organize get togethers, many of which happen at my house which leaves me with a mess and occasionally stray friends who drank too much and shouldn't drive home. Maintaining a sphere of friends requires effort. If men don't want to put in the effort, maybe a woman will just magically appear under their tree this Christmas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:30 PM
5	CMV: Most of this subreddit is just pointlessly gendered observations about whatever sex the poster wants to demean. Nice was sufficient when women had no choice but to marry. When women have a choice, physically and sexually attractive is as important as nice. Sorry that's a big stumbling block for men, who historically picked the most attractive women they could feasibly attract. It's wild how much of a problem it is that women prefer men they desire to have sex with over the men they are pressured to have sex with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:21 PM
6	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? an unsolicited dick pic unprompted mid convo Did you just imply she could "have fun" with a fucking sex offender? Sure, maybe bad options, but you can have fun meanwhile. Yes, you did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:52 PM
6	CMV: Most of this subreddit is just pointlessly gendered observations about whatever sex the poster wants to demean. It's pretty bad, actually. The sub was shut down for threats of violence and now that some are here, this sub could earn the same reputation as a host for incels and risk unwanted attention from reddit admins and government oversight. It's a shame that practical advice which isn't crazy TRP horseshit gets buried while the violently angry men upvote the most unhinged comments so they bubble to the top and makes this place look like another incel hive of antisocial, anti-intellectual rhetoric.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:50 PM
1	PPD 2023 DEMOGRAPHICS SURVEY I'm for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:34 PM
0	PPD 2023 DEMOGRAPHICS SURVEY Please add a question about experience interpreting statistics or completion of an Intro to Statistics course as well as a question about familiarity with logical fallacies pleaseanthankyou.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:24 PM
3	Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women. Yes yes and yes. And this sub skews heavily conservative, packed with men who demand obedient "trad wives" while claiming stoicism is the secret to success, but each predictably queues right up on the daily chat to seek support.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:21 PM
-8	Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women. Confirmation bias isn't evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:15 PM
-1	Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women. The women who respond to vulnerable, neurotic, highly emotional men have the same traits. Horny isn't on your list, so it likely isn't on theirs, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:14 PM
4	Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women. However, there are plenty of women who view men through a weird hyper masculine lens due to socialization. In their eyes, men can't be soft or vulnerable because it's unnatural, feminine, or bad. If you value your sanity, avoid those women. They can't. Most of the men here skew conservative and they were raised to fill the role of the competent stoic and they seek romance from their conservative female counterparts. They have two choices. Either live with the roles predetermined by a conservativ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:12 PM
2	Women don’t hate men being vulnerable. These men claiming so just don’t know how to act like adults or date emotionally unavailable women. I'm sorry she said that. I don't have much of a temper but "man up" infuriates me no matter where it comes from. Parents aren't the most reliable source for emotional support because they are tasked with preparing their children for adversity outside the home. If she thinks you are going to cry at work or cry in front of your friends, she's going to struggle with how to address a perceived weakness which also reflects her "failure" to prepare her kids for life. My mother was and still is gorgeou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:09 PM
4	If you don't have a big social circle, are you basically fucked when it comes to dating? You don’t need to be extroverted, but if you want to meet new people having a few friends to go out with is far better than sitting at home and swiping. But it requires effort. You have to make the plans, offer to DD, host parties or cookouts, organize the get togethers. The only thing I use FB for is to run a closed group of friends I’ve met through hobbies and work. No way in hell I’m going Black Friday shopping, but I am meeting and driving four (so far) friends around and hanging out with th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:32 PM
4	CMV: Most of this subreddit is just pointlessly gendered observations about whatever sex the poster wants to demean. mountains of denial took a bit. There was no denial, there was a major cultural shift in women’s independence as nearly all women entered the workplace vs the slow trickle which began in the 70s. When women started working as a rule rather than the exception, women were no longer forced to settle for an unattractive good provider, but could actually consider a life with a partner she is mutually sexually attracted to. It’s surprising how many men are just now realizing this, and how many men jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:19 PM
5	CMV: Most of this subreddit is just pointlessly gendered observations about whatever sex the poster wants to demean. would also say BP is starting to be “more right” on TRP just being filled with losers as it grows in popularity. There is a recent uptick in hatred because another incel hate sub was shut down by Reddit, so the members came in here to fling shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:15 PM
16	Dear women of PPD, what do you think - is this place suitable for constructive discussion? I think it’s a good space to discuss the wildly different dynamics between people. Men who have no female friends or little experience with dating seem to regard women as accessories who want to play house and raise babies. They forget that he brings 18+ years of his upbringing, his family and cultural mores, his religion, his experience in his social group with him, and so does she. Many of the posts from men here can be reduced to “Why don’t women do what we want”, which is a child’s POV. The …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:09 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Are you even reading the replies you asked me for? Those men aren’t “doing nothing”, they are socializing as people do and meeting and mingling with like minded people and occasionally stumbling across women who are mutually attracted. That is how dating works the world round. Do you honestly believe that the 13-18 year old boys who had girlfriends in high school while their voices were still changing and their bodies were awkward and clumsy did anything special to get girlfriends? They simply t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:00 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. By socializing and interacting with like minded people who share their experiences and values. You know, like real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 12:20 PM
2	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Who is helping those single fathers raise the kids? OP admitted fathers outsource the care to family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:50 AM
1	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Women have been doing it since Eve walked upright in Africa. Let’s see men pay for it, because they sure af aren’t competent and will outsource it at every opportunity, as you admitted in previous posts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:33 AM
7	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms He’s better pay for a maid, a chef, and a chauffeur, too, because that man obviously is too incompetent to actually raise a child and care for a home and family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:30 AM
7	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Pay for it. Pay the maid, pay the secretary, pay the chauffeur, and pay the cook.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:29 AM
7	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Half man’s, too, yet he can’t be bothered to participate in any fraction of their lives and fucking brags about playing dad? “ Most likely doing something fun.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:29 AM
6	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Tell you what. Cut off the supply of sperm and women will cut off access to the ovaries. Let’s see who caves first. The boys men consider their best friends, their homies, their ride or dies, and their brothers will race across the line with that sperm then fucking drop the ball and do everything they can to avoid raising their own children. It’s gospel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 05:05 AM
8	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Sperm is the cheapest resource on the planet. I can can get some sperm from a tall, fit, college educated man in about twenty minutes by sending two or three “u up” DMs, and I’m in my old hometown where I haven’t lived in ten years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 04:41 AM
4	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. I post studies when I make a claim. I have not made a claim, you have. If you can’t support “studies prove” is pure horseshit. If you can’t post studies on the public board, you have nothing and the claims are baseless. Don’t DM me though, because I’ll post it. Every single time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 04:33 AM
4	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Where are those studies? Post them please. Common myth to justify dehumanizing men and boys, to make sure that you feel no sympathy towards male victims of sex crimes. Not that you needed the help... Weird that you’ve never seen AskMen or AskReddit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 04:22 AM
-2	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. That’s horrific and no, women don’t think that. But men celebrate it and I don’t understand why you all aren’t better to one another. “I wish my hot teacher would have fucked me” makes me want to vomit. And men clap one another on the back. Men’s rights is nothing but complaints about rejection, I don’t know why men don’t band together and attack men who advocate the rape of students. I’d beat the dogshit out of any woman who raped a student and I’ve never hit a human being in my life. And most …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 04:10 AM
3	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Hey maybe you should keep on posting 6 year old tabloid mail articles, I heard that’s great for credibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:51 AM
2	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Once again, anti intellectualism overrides reason and common sense. A sixth grade teacher would flunk you for those posts. Come back with actual evidence of a trend instead of a tabloid article from 2017 and a single post from a mentally ill woman with a history of terrible decisions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:42 AM
0	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Dude please. Go post your 2017 Daily Mail links anywhere else annd ask for credit and I’ll happily expound on your seven month old complaint from a poster who openly admits mental illness. What are you even doing right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:19 AM
1	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Did you read that shit article about middle aged women in the Daily Mail? Did you seriously use that as a source? And a post from a woman who is clearly a fucking mess from 7 months ago? From this person? “ I am quite introverted, anxious, and shy, so anything that makes me feel uncomfortable I don't want any part of.” Be serious right now. Women ante not asking where all the good men are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 03:08 AM
5	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms It’s only the most important job a parent has which he shamelessly outsources to family instead of doing it his damn self as the mother does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:21 AM
6	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Dad time?? Are you serious right now? You mean parenting?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 02:08 AM
5	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Are women posting these? I only ever see men claiming women say it. In fact the entire shitpost sub “where are all the good men” is exclusively male posters.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:33 AM
5	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms get help from family You bet your ass they do. Now explain why they can’t do it before she dies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:32 AM
8	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Also considering the working parent is still obligated to help with cleaning, and to help immensely with child rearing. Right, same as they would be expected to do if the spouse died and had to be replaced by a team.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:23 AM
6	Women now want to be paid 6 figures for being stay at home moms Maybe quote the going rate for a live in nanny in your city, and if she doesn’t also cook and clean, quote the rates for chef and maid service as well? Chauffeur and secretary, too. The point is for men to take an honest look at what it costs to replace a wife and mother if she dies. How much would he have to pay a team of staff to do what she does all day long, while also taking care of all his needs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:14 AM
5	If women are jealous of where all the good men have gone, how come they don't try sweeping them earlier in life? Where are those threads though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:10 AM
4	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. “Why don’t women compliment men” “Why are women afraid of men at night” “Why can’t men approach strangers without being treated like predators” “Why don’t women report” “Why did she wear that/ drink that/ smoke that/go there if she didn’t want to be assaulted” “Why is she nursing her hungry infant if she doesn’t want men staring at her tits” What’s the point, really, when men blame women for every bad thing men do to women? I don’t think reason and accountability are even possible with men, they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/23 01:00 AM
2	Reasons for women to still be on a dating app a year later? I’ve seen an inexcusable number of men admitting to creating fake profiles and they must be using photos of actual people. Do you all realize what you are doing to those actual women with this horseshit? I’ve had DMCA requests on Reddit every month or two since I was sixteen and there are still photos of my face and body on certain subs because certain pieces of shit thought it was acceptable to take and post photos of me. Image searches have now advanced enough that a couple of those searches r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 10:36 PM
1	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. I agree this argument is tiring. Blaming women for men’s sexual misdeeds has been horseshit since the earliest recorded history but here it is again, with men who are twice to ten times stronger, twice to ten times more powerful, wealthy, and with far more to lose, get away with blaming women for their misdeeds because men, even unsuccessful men, will always support men and unite to blame women. And blame female children. And blame women and girls for growing breasts and hips. For being nearby a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 10:13 PM
4	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Which innocent people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 10:06 PM
3	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. You have no idea how that relationship began. Married men love to claim they are in an open marriage. Or a marriage of convenience. Or a loveless or sexless marriage. They’ve done it since time immemorial and even if they idiot who got involved with him actually believed they might one day love one another and be together the bulk of the blame lies with the married man with a pregnant wife who admitted to his bad behavior publicly. But blaming women for tempting men tracks, it’s typical conserva…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:55 PM
5	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. No I think men need to own their bad behavior and stop holding children and women accountable for the sexual acts men do unless those men are also victims of predatory behavior. I am giving my own interpretation of the scenario here and asking you to have some imagination to think it out on a deeper level from there. There is no deeper level. Men have held women responsible for their bad sexual behavior since Eve ate the apple and it’s time for men to accept accountability for their actions. Wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:46 PM
–	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. I would say it’s quite likely she initiated things too which puts her quite on par with him in my opinion. Yeah and all the women who donated their clothing to the What Was I Wearing exhibit “initiated things”. Does that include the women who were wearing fatigues? Pajamas? How about the onesies and diapers? Do you also hold those sexy, seductive toddlers and infants responsible for the horrific sex acts grown men attacked them with? https://dovecenter.org/what-were-you-wearing-exhibit/	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:41 PM
5	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Right?? So fuck it. If women are both “occasions to sin” from the moment breast buds appear around ages 8-11, and also entirely responsible for somehow controlling men’s behavior, what are men doing other than enjoying an utter lack of accountability for their actions, as they have since the beginning of recorded history?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:38 PM
10	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. Wow. Blaming the woman instead of the married, powerful man who instigated the relationship. Men just unapologetically holding women responsible for both existing with female bodies and for somehow controlling men’s responses to those bodies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:35 PM
5	A major issue with the modern dating market is that immoral sexual behavior is heavily discouraged in men but either ignored or even outright ENCOURAGED in women in the modern era. I don't think I have to tell anyone on this subreddit why I personally think that sleeping with your professor for grades is absolute lowest of the low level behavior and one of the most morally compromised actions that a woman can take (that is mostly specific to women). Men would, given the chance, without hesitation. I'd be very glad to have the peace of mind in knowing that we aren't facing a future where women are allowed to use their sexual leverage however they want with no negative conse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:33 PM
0	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Most people would agree with me that it's in women's best interest to choose Chad. They don't fault women for it. TRP and PUA wouldn’t exist if this were true. The entire purpose of both is for men to demonstrate value to women and compete with their archetypal Chad. Women find Chad to be a farce, a caricature of a masculine, attractive man. But the myth is precisely who TRP and PUA men aspire to be, who they attempt to emulate. And Chad is who men are constantly competing with, screeching “pick…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 09:04 PM
6	What sort of music do you think the girl who would be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with you listens to? I love everything about this post, but I would even if I didn’t relate to it so well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 08:55 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. How you think these men could be pick-mes is just beyond me. No it isn’t. That’s how cognitive dissonance works. These guys don't pedestalize women at all like pick-me girls do men. Pick-mes don’t pedastilize the opposite sex, they uniformly criticize the sex for “failing to see how they are the superior choice” while also putting down popular members of the same sex in a lame attempt to denigrate the competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 08:29 PM
5	What sort of music do you think the girl who would be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with you listens to? although hilariously I paid for college selling old 45 records so I've got an extensive music knowledge What??? That’s awesome. If you did that on reddit, I may have purchased some things from you. This is an alt. My primary ID is in the audiophile sub more than anywhere else. And yeah Swift is something else. When Jack White, Ryan Adams, and Jason Isbell agree she’s one of the best songwriters, it doesn’t matter what haters say. It's not a super accident that both my boyfriend and I were hugely…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 08:25 PM
5	What sort of music do you think the girl who would be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with you listens to? That’s crazypants. Ozzfest is packed with women. Every punk band I’ve ever seen has just as many women as men, we even have female only pits so women don’t risk getting groped. I don’t have any tattoos, piercings, or weird hair. My best friends only have a couple. We hit every show within 200 miles, and fly a couple times per year for a beach vacation and a band.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 08:06 PM
12	What sort of music do you think the girl who would be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with you listens to? I’m really pleased with your premise, I think there is a disconnect between pop culture and the sort of specialized hobbies that some men with smaller social circles enjoy. Pretty sure men think women only listen to Taylor Swift or something. Nothing wrong with Swift, the best songwriters in the world admire her knack for verse and arrangement. But a lot of men here seem to regard women as sexy children who follow what other women do rather than fully realized humans who exist even when men aren…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 07:50 PM
12	What sort of music do you think the girl who would be interested in a romantic or sexual relationship with you listens to? Really though I don't see a lot of diversity in women's musical taste. I see bands all the time, I schedule my life around concerts, shows, and festivals. I’ve never been to a concert which wasn’t half female audience. I see rock, punk, folk, hiphop, and metal. Occasionally get dragged to EDM but I don’t do drugs so it’s not the same experience for me as most people there. And I was pretty much forced to see a country concert recently and 2/3 of the crowd was female. Alarmingly aggressive and ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 07:36 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Says the woman that tried to womansplain how men feel I’m not describing how men feel, I’m explaining what they do, which is a mirror of the typical pick me woman. Instead, women are consumed with attracting as many men as possible, so that they can gloat over them for validation I’ve met one or two women in my life who seek attention at all costs, but most women don’t want attention from men they would never date. Getting stalked, leered at, getting pressured and screamed at by fake male friend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 07:32 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Except there isn’t any need to “call women out” if a man has no intention of dating them. And there isn’t any need to slut shame since those women aren’t options for inhibited men anyway. You may not like it, but men who chastise and shame women for dating men they are attracted to are pick-mes who feel they are the better choice. They follow the exact same pattern as female pick mes: by putting down the competition and chiding others who prefer popular or superficially attractive people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 07:18 PM
1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Lmao, this post is completely nonsensical. How can you be a "pick-me" when women don't even like men who do these things? I didn’t say it works, I said that’s their obvious goal. By continually deriding popular men and women with any shred of experience or sexual identity, they intend to demonstrate their value by providing stability and somehow reckon their inability to cheat is a selling point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 05:38 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. choices by slandering innocent men That’s an entirely male lens. There isn’t anything wrong with having a lower sex drive so long as those men make appropriate choices with mates of similar habits. But they don’t, do they? Those men focus on women who obviously posses a sexual identity and who obviously prioritize sexual attraction and mutual sexual gratification. Why is that? Why don’t men simply ignore those women and pay attention to women who are on the same wavelength?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 05:27 PM
2	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. I suspect a lot of men who are hypercritical of “Chad” and women with a sex drive feel the same way, which would make women with lower sex drives a far better fit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 05:23 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Yes, I recall your username and I remember we argued over PUA. But that isn’t what we are talking about now. The reason disaffected, lonely men turn to TRP is because they are more sensitive and vulnerable than popular men who tend to be more resilient since they have a social sphere and multiple options for dating. OP is just another iteration of “emulate Chad and mimic his behaviors and you will get laid” and it simply isn’t true. Most men are not convincing actors. Hell, most actors aren’t co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:49 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. if there is one I promise you a response where I tear into him about it. Not taking this bait at all, but the very idea that you would "tear into a man" who has expressed vulnerability is the only evidence needed to prove an extreme disconnect from humanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:29 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Best post in the thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:17 PM
-1	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. but men don't just have romantic options appear by simply existing as their gender. Most do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:15 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I don't schedule any clients on Monday until after lunch because I'm the only woman in my office. And not because I have administrative work or have to make coffee, one of the men does that. But because I know that all but one of my coworkers is going to show up to tell me all about the stressors or triumphs of his weekend and they take turns crowding my office doorway and on occasion falling apart because they have a sick kid/lost a parent/had a bad break-up/are losing their virility due to agi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:14 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. There is no cohesive red pill bible, there is nothing but a messy game of telephone repeated by men trying to figure out how to mimic successful men. The OP certainly appears to be a repeat of "pretend to be a mid century stereotypical sit com father" while advising women to play the supplicant role of obedient housewife. There's not a single TRP channel that would tell you to cast aside your stoic self and embrace emotional weakness or to discard assertiveness and connect with your feminine ene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 03:07 PM
3	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. The role of the man is assertiveness and stoicism. So... are you counseling all the hyper-sensitive "Good men" of TRP to stop whining about Chad and somehow pretend they are tough and independent, assertive and sexual when it's evident they are not? Because this sounds very much like the Golden Age fallacy, in which "men were better when John Wayne/Ronald Reagan/Sean Connery could just slap women and drink all night in front of the television after work." Life isn't an episode of MadMen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:38 PM
2	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. I can't argue with your imagined version of the men you are conjuring up in your mind, Or you could just read the posts I'm quite certain you've seen as they make you 2/3 of the male rhetoric here and more than half of TRP posts. Male pick-mes who deride sexually successful men they refer to as Chad while describing themselves as the far better, more sensitive, emotional, less-to-asexual choice in a partner are the driving theme behind the red pill. Describing their emotional sensitivity is prec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:30 PM
6	I think the gender wars (division) in the West are inflamed by a psyop campaign from Russia/China It isn't homophobic at all. We're talking about satisfying sex, right? Men have precisely the same opportunities to allow their bodies to be used for unsatisfying, un-gratifying sex as women. Not sure why this is men's blind spot other than pure ego, but sex with a man a woman isn't attracted to or is actively disgusted by isn't sex. It's the demeaning, dehumanizing use of her body as a cum sleeve. Men have the same options. u/throwaway164_3 blocked me, so I cannot respond to his insults.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:11 PM
4	I think the gender wars (division) in the West are inflamed by a psyop campaign from Russia/China Women are so privileged with how easily they can fuck and get fucked. Men have precisely the same opportunities to "get fucked" by people they aren't attracted to and who will not give them an orgasm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:05 PM
6	A woman wanting her man to be emotionally vulnerable is selfish. Men don't have that same hunger for the absolute and all-consuming emotional coalescence of two human beings. Have you ever read TRP or PPD? Or r/ seduction for that matter? All three subs are packed full of male pick-mes who go on and on about how asocial and asexual men and introverts are the far superior choice to Chad because they would never cheat. They stress a lack of sexual interest while painting themselves as sensitive, reliable, trustworthy providers who aren't focused on sex. Every. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 02:03 PM
6	The double standard: man has alot of sexual partners = good. Woman has alot of sexual partners = bad. Is misunderstood. Let’s try any other analogy. That man can’t play basketball and is terrible at sports. But I just do saw him dunk on a child’s net so he’s worthy of admiration. Surgeon lost every patient except one, so let’s all praise his skill. Man is terrible at every single thing he’s attempted, but he’s good at Mario Cart so let’s hold a parade in his honor. Am I doing this right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 12:58 AM
3	The double standard: man has alot of sexual partners = good. Woman has alot of sexual partners = bad. Is misunderstood. There are no studies about pair bonding in humans. There is one sus claim made by a Christian thinktank.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 12:55 AM
0	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating I’m just glad men who claim sex is a need will stop slut shaming.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/23 12:35 AM
-1	Most people who complain about the other gender problem can be solved if they drop out of dating How many women cheat because they aren’t attracted to their husbands or because their husbands are terrible in bed? A desire for satisfying sex is a basic human desire, why demonize women for seeking it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 11:43 PM
0	Online dating is a falsehood doing your mental health harm OP is so upset he dropped the OP then disappeared	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 10:56 PM
5	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. They think that good sex comes down to technique, but some even believe that women should be happy to lie still beneath men they aren’t attracted to for forty years because he’s “safer than Chad” or something. They think nothing of using women’s bodies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 10:09 PM
4	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. No man can “improve himself” enough to develop a rapport, chemistry, sexual compatibility and excitement with a woman he doesn’t naturally share that with. The idea of marrying a man she isn’t attracted to in hopes sexual compatibility will magically develop is a terrible plan.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 10:07 PM
4	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. So what’s the lesson here? “Women, you have no natural right nor expectation of good, exciting sex you should settle for a man who doesn’t excite you because men want attractive women to shut up and endure awful sex”??	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 09:25 PM
1	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Women want to settle down with men they are sexually attracted to and women want to also enjoy a lifetime of sex instead of merely being forced to lie underneath a sweating, rutting man who uses her body to masturbate into.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 09:23 PM
1	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Men tend to remember the hottest sex with the hottest woman who they've been with vividly, sometimes even masturbating to it remembering the experience. So do women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 08:50 PM
1	Are men here weaponizing their victimhood against women? Privileged men don’t have to be cooperative. Women can simply avoid them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 08:43 PM
8	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. If two people are mutually attracted, they are in the same “league” and ace men are not in the league at all. Do ace or low libido men expect sex throughout their marriage? If yes, then why in the world would they even consider taking from a woman who isn’t attracted and doesn’t enjoy it? I feel like all these discussions are low libido men or entitled men claiming rights to women’s bodies who are doomed to a miserable sex life until their deaths.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 08:42 PM
4	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. In my experience men are on their best behavior until they lock down or impregnate a woman. As soon as they’ve won her away from other men, they give up and reveal their true behavior. We can never know how someone actually pretends or con convinces another person they are terrific, but we can sure see when people drop the pretense and reveal their actual personality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 07:37 PM
4	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Everything I listed leads to a loss of attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 07:34 PM
11	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. So women should sacrifice their own sexual identity and sexual satisfaction as well as endure husband’s wholesale use of their bodies for the good of society, which actually means no change since the mid century. Let me know when men are willing to be used as human dildos with seldom to zero sexual gratification and maybe women will attend the negotiating table.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 05:28 PM
1	Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now. Expecting investors in social spaces to cater to asocial people is nuts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:42 PM
0	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Is "Be fun and relaxed but don't put your fucking hands on people you don't know" that difficult?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:37 PM
0	Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now. How in the world could a business owner cater to people who don't have hobbies or particular niche interests? That would be the worst investment on the planet. "Hey, Bank of Whatever. I want to open a nightclub for men and women who don't like other people, who don't drink, don't dance, and hate crowds. Can I get a loan please?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:26 PM
7	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. I think the the complaint then becomes that these women have already had casual sex or short-term flings with higher value men, and that these lower value men are then being settled for, and that the women have had sexual experiences with more attractive men. ...who were more exciting and giving in bed. Less popular men promise the same fun times, but fail to deliver.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:21 PM
8	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Dead bedrooms are due to a thousand reasons, including male dependence on their wives, their refusal to participate in the upkeep of their own hygiene and household responsibilities, and also just being demanding and selfish in bed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:20 PM
-1	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. back in the old days bastard kids and single mothers are basically abandoned & shunned by the community, thus lowering their chance of survival Reflects a complete lack of familiarity with the human genome which is chock full of race mixing even during periods of slavery and hideous racism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:17 PM
3	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. This claim is incongruent with men's claims that women refuse to settle for men who they don't feel "the tingles" for. Which is it? Women only settle for men they are sexually attracted to? Or whatever man will settle for them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 04:13 PM
4	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Yeah? Which of those 100 men who "like" her actually find her attractive vs which are just desperate for a warm hole instead of a fleshlight?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 03:36 PM
6	Are men here weaponizing their victimhood against women? Horrible, horrible take. Hyperbole is such a worthless diversion. Rapists are defended and protected by other men, historically and presently. Brock Turner isn't trolling Ohio bars because he was celebrated by men but because he was defended by a judge who decided he was otherwise a good guy who somehow raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster in a filthy alley because she was asking for it. Men here, daily, continue to blame women for awful treatment based on their clothing, when the travel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 03:28 PM
11	CMV: Women don’t have high standards. Below average guys keep thinking they are average. Men have trained their brains and dicks on porn and have no idea what the average woman looks like, their scale is heavily weighted towards models, influencers, actresses, and porn stars. The average woman looks ugly to men who expect cartoonish figures altered by plastic surgery and airbrushed faces. Men are not reliable reporters on what "average" women look like. They rank women against the women who they jerk off to daily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 03:00 PM
2	Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now. Not as many neighborhood pubs for locals but there are bars and restaurants which focus on a hobby like sports, music, cars, bikes, or genres of music. The only bar I attend regularly is owned by a couple of cyclists, and we gather after events or our weekly rides. Mountain bikers, too, on different nights. I am not a big drinker but enjoy the hell out of hanging out with people I bike with and folks who want to get into biking. The beer league softball and volleyball players gather there, too, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 02:05 PM
1	Technology killed regular socialization and that’s why dating is so hard now. Clubs and bars are packed in the US, too. But I think most of the men here admit they don’t like crowds and loud music. Parks and beaches are also crowded, but those are only for people who like fresh air, play, and exercise. Festivals, concerts, and sporting events sell out in the 100 mile radius around me, but those are for people with friends. The men who complain about being unable to find something to do don’t actually want to do social things. They want to spot an attractive innocent 18 ye…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 11:44 AM
–	The fact that so many women on here refuse to acknowledge even the most obvious facts shows you that they are not interested in an honest conversation When with men, sure. Women can take care of themselves with or without a man. Men either cannot or will not. It’s pretty frustrating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 02:36 AM
1	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? Sure, but stressing over people who are not potential partners seems like a poor choice of energy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 02:00 AM
–	The fact that so many women on here refuse to acknowledge even the most obvious facts shows you that they are not interested in an honest conversation Do what women do when they don’t like their choices. Either date people who are mutually attracted or remain alone. Find some hobbies. Enjoy your family and friends. Exercise. Focus on your job and retirement. Get a cat. Or a dog. Carry on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 01:40 AM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I’m not trying to silence you, I’m speaking about the women who are not potential dates. Whatever they are doing with regards to makeup, fashion, and men has nothing to do with you. Worry about the women who might be a good match. Same advice I’d give anyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 01:28 AM
7	A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works. Oh. So you admit it’s super important for men to show off for others and somehow communicate their penis status. Doesn’t that seem somehow… desperate for the social approval of others?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/23 12:21 AM
15	Women cannot understand how men can feel horny for women they don't even like How are men any different from women in this regard?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 11:51 PM
28	Women cannot understand how men can feel horny for women they don't even like How can you make this OP with all the claims that women are serial monogamists who get bored but regain their libido with a new lover? ETA: why do men agonize over paternity if men are the only partners who get bored and prefer novelty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 11:35 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I think men need to learn how to entertain their goddamn selves and take care of their own home and family responsibilities instead of relying on New Mommy to take care of it all for them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 11:25 PM
10	A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works. Men are the ones who are emotionally consumed by the idea of other men seeing them as virgins with no experience. Men are consumed with impressing other men with their sexual prowess and ability to get laid. Men are consumed with worry over being caught with single mothers or raising step children. Men are consumed with conspicuous consumption like perfect lawns, muscle cars, big trucks, and truck nuts. Men are consumed with worry their sons are inept in sports. Men are consumed with their wives…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 10:57 PM
26	Would you agree that body language signs dont mean anything ? Yes, I agree that body language means nothing on first dates or first impressions. People are nervous. Pupils dilate for lots of reasons; women aren't cats or owls. Women are notorious for giggling when uncomfortable because when women show disdain or disgust towards men they don't know, the repercussions are unpredictable and occasionally violent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 10:45 PM
10	A lot of women are selecting guys for social points, and men here seem to not understand how this works. Oh, then explain the hysteria about male virginity and how deeply important it is for men to have sex before a certain age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 10:26 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? What good does that do for anyone? Why not speak from a personal point of view? If you asked for advice from someone who's opinion you are after and that someone just made a guess, how would that make you feel? How can I, a social person involved in group activities and physical fitness with a large group of friends tell a gamer and loner how to get women? He's going to have to find women who share his habits and interests. If the guy is nice, she will say women like nice guys. If he's a nerdy-t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 10:11 PM
3	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? You think disenfranchised men who hate women are in any position to raise girls or boys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 09:41 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? Probably this: "I've had over 7 years of failure on dating apps" and "I'm 23 and still haven't had some core life experiences" What "dating apps" have you been on since 16?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 09:12 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? What does other women's behavior have to do with you or men? Why are you concerned with what women who are not your relatives, friends, or girlfriends, do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:58 PM
3	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? The misanthropes out themselves and are also online spouting the same hatred and disdain for others. They don't want a family and a healthy, balanced life, they want sex and a repeat of what their mothers provided for them, most of which was enabling and a lot of enmeshment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:29 PM
1	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I don't understand what you mean.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:27 PM
5	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? That's fine, I feel precisely the same way about MMA, which many men in my sphere seem to worship. But what I cannot assume is that men pursue amateur or professional fighting is for the purpose of getting female attention. Some women seem intrigued, some don't. But it's not about us. A man with a split eyebrow, cauliflower ear, and a black eye at the club didn't do it to appeal to me, or to appeal to women. It's just a thing he admires and aspires to do. If a woman is attracted to violence, tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:15 PM
3	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? But they are the ones who cant stand the slightest criticism about themselves? What exactly are you trying to do here? Find out everything that is wrong with me and blame the whole thing on me? Well yes, this is what I will tell you now. It's my fault from the very beginning that I didnt realize I was playing a losing game from the very beginning. I should have given up a long time ago because all of this was just apparently wasted time for me. No... I'm recommending dating women with similar ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:04 PM
3	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? This isn't necesarrily just a sexual quality, It's absolutely as display of virility, which you may not notice or appreciate as a lesbian. and women don't exactly go around pursuing these sorts of men because it's just not in their nature. We do. Whereas if you're a woman who is purposely applying tons of makeup everyday, wearing revealing clothes with lots of skin showing, you're basically just putting yourself in a position to be sexualized. It's just like an invitation for men to get hard ons…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 08:04 PM
4	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I'm not a fan of any of the soft sciences, but anyone who regards others from a clinical, judgmental perspective might benefit from some introspection. You've made all the same derogatory, dismissive, misogynistic comments frustrated, disenfranchised men make. There has to be a reason for that. Either you lack or lost your community, or are looking to exploit gender weaknesses. I'm not saying any of this from a place of disdain or dislike, I'm genuinely hoping you are interested in honest feedba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:52 PM
5	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I feel as though this post should be stickied as the perfect real life example of the Hollywood "male gaze". I don't see the point in trying to be professional, get the job done and mixing "being sexy" in the picture. Okay, so men who are tall and physically imposing due to genetics should what... wear baggy clothing to work in order to gain respect and cooperation from colleagues? What about men who work out, should they wear clothing which hides their biceps and quads if they want to be respec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:47 PM
0	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? I can't respond without a little more information. Do you have a social circle and friends? Are you on the spectrum? These questions aren't an indictment, but your answers may limit the women who respond to you with romantic and sexual interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:42 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? It's all about them, them, them and what they need to get out of you. Whoa, what? Women don't want to be the sole source of entertainment, support, and family of a man, they want an equal relationship with a self-sustaining human being instead of a dependent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:40 PM
4	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? 30% of men want kids and don't have them. Most of those men despise women and hate any semblance of a social life or social responsibility, how in the hell can they expect raise healthy kids?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:37 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? Honestly, to me that was pathetic and like a sign of neediness and wasting time, A few women work pretty hard at attracting men they are interested in, but most women just enjoy hobbies, just like men. Those hobbies can include playing sports and fashion. Those hobbies can include hiking and makeup. Are you sure you aren't suffering some internalized misogyny? And maybe a struggle to find your community of like-minded people? Because the biggest obstacle "red pilled" men face is hating women whi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:35 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? "Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do." Do men still not understand that women who are not remotely attracted to them are just guessing at what they might do to get women? Like... I don't have any idea how my autistic brother finds his girlfriends who are also autistic with few to no friends, but I do know that he can't just get in their faces, joke around, flex and complain about his "sore muscles" or take her to a festival. I can only assume the women who will feel attraction to m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:31 PM
2	Isn't the red pill basically the same thing as the blue pill, just with less ass-kissing to women, more self-improvement, with a dose of sexism and manipulation? Lesbians prefer the same things in partners: social skills vs the intense focus of a loner. A sense of humor vs an analytical, argumentative nerd. Social skills versus the intense focus of a friendless, desperate approach. A relaxed posture and easy, friendly grin versus uptight, intense staring and judgemental commentary. A vested interest in mutual attractive versus relentless, one-sided pursuit and a sales pitch. Attraction is different for men, who "fall" for and claim to fall in love with w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 07:28 PM
2	What's Up w/all this Jargon? I've never heard it anywhere outside of here. My brother is on the spectrum and he and his friends are online more than they socialize in real life, and I never hear them use these terms. I'd immediately ditch anyone I heard using cult jargon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 02:51 PM
–	I have never been approached by a man It’s not comprehension, it’s plausible deniability, the song of their people. When they are ignored or rejected, they resort to “I wasn’t/he wasn’t flirting with you gosh you are so delusional”. It’s how men save face when rejected while also punishing the women who reject them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 02:15 AM
–	I have never been approached by a man There are men, legions, who believe that women exist for their entertainment and perusal. Who believe that women spend every waking and dreaming minute planning methods of distracting and attracting men. They think women literally live for male feedback and approval. It’s the same men who gawked at 8 and 9 year old children who developed early. The same men who believe that women’s bodies exist at them, developed expressly to bamboozle and arouse men. The same men who memorize ages of consent, w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 01:46 AM
–	I have never been approached by a man I feel like it might be a perception of friendliness, really. A relaxed posture and easy smile makes it far easier to chat with strangers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 01:24 AM
–	I have never been approached by a man There are plenty of people who would like to fuck men. But men may not be attracted to them or flattered by the offer to use their bodies as a cum sock. Funny how that works huh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 12:52 AM
–	I have never been approached by a man It never quits. My mom was approached her entire life and still insists on changing out of a golf or tennis skirt before running errands or going to lunch. She’s in her 70s. Men forget they will age, too, and they will be interested in women their own age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 12:51 AM
–	I have never been approached by a man I’m ordinary looking and way too tall for 90% of men. And I’m approached all the time, but I have a resting smiling face, laugh easily, and I am open to organic small talk with strangers. I despise PUA and hate getting cornered by loners who are obviously out to stalk women, but I don’t care at all if anyone approaches in a social venue. But I won’t go out with a stranger. Zero interest in someone I have nothing in common with and even less interest in dating anyone who is so socially isolated t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/23 12:50 AM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging hopes, risk with violent revenge once he realizes he's not the one. For sure. The entire exhausting overwrought, overdramatic and whiny “friendzone” complaint is what happens when women are nice and supportive to men they aren’t attracted to. If there is one thing women cannot do to support men, it’s to show any level of interest in them unless there is zero chance that he’s nursing a one-sided attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 06:26 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging So every girl you chased in elementary and high school is now lined up and begging for your attention?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 06:10 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Yeah it is. Every post which supports the video is an endorsement that women should settle for men they are not attracted to and use their resources apparently just so he can be happy. But she will leave him for a man she can relate to and a man she finds attractive or leave him with a dead bedroom because she isn’t sexually attracted to him at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 06:05 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging I watched it, and I resent you for linking to it because it’s completely awkward rendition of “Women, marry the men you aren’t attracted to.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 06:03 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging I work in a busy college city known for athletics. There are hundreds of fit, muscular men and nearly all are invisible because their personalities, cultures, and sociopolitical views only work with women who find them appealing on an individual level. If working out were sufficient for compatibility, no man would ever be unsuccessful or frustrated. Apply reason and common sense here. If I can’t stand a guy or I find him merely tolerable, working out for a couple months isn’t going to somehow ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 06:01 PM
1	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? Men who will fuck anything typically aren’t one’s experiencing abundance. This sentence entirely contradicts itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:56 PM
–	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Where is this magical land where women and children aren’t slut shamed and their bodies policed and exposed to Abrahamic religion? Where is this magical land where women aren’t blamed for sexual assault and pregnancy and derided for revealing their sexual identities via fashion or behavior? Women would flock to that space which only exists in your fantasies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:56 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging U are physically more attractive and the woman lust for u now how the fuck does your logic make this settling? He did nothing to ensure they are more socially and emotionally compatible. He cannot change who he is, or change his experience and expectations. He cannot change his sociopolitical beliefs. He’s still the same, incompatible person even if he went to a gym for a few y'all really struggle with taking the random emotions outa this Are you seriously asking women to take their emotions out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:52 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging The men who are not successful with women because they are “nice guys” aren’t nice, they are asexual or near it. They aren’t “nice”, they are asocial or near it. They aren’t “nice”, they aim for women who are not operating in the same cultural, social, or physical spheres. There are no hacks. If a man is conservative, inhibited, religious, or asocial, he is never going to be the better choice for outgoing, attractive women. And outgoing, attractive women are not attracted to “bad boys”, they are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:41 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Your edit now encourages women to lead their platonic male friends on then decided after he’s jumped through enough hoops whether or not she’s physically attracted. So men want to be treated as pinch hitters? A back up plan? Men want to be settled for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:37 PM
1	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I didn’t say homeless, but men think nothing of fucking or seeking sexual favors from women they would never take home to meet family and never be seen with at parties. Men lack scruples and their body count reflects this, it sure as fuck doesn’t reflect their popularity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:33 PM
–	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Not sure if you meant undatable or untenable, but those women have a specific problem, and that’s being raised in conservative environments where they are blamed since they were toddlers for tempting men and acting as occasions to sin. No one is screeching at boys to “sit like a gentlemen so the pastor/creepy aunt/teachers are tempted to act out”. Boys aren’t shamed when the band of their underwear shows or they reveal three inches of asscrack every time they squat or bend over. Boys aren’t blam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:32 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Every boy knows that pretty girls prefer cute boys and every man is aware that attractive women prefer attractive men. Only a certain subset of men who regard women as non human, asexual creatures who can be manipulated into relationships or marriage by pretending to be asexual themselves. If men actually give a shit about understanding women, they’ll stop seeking advice from other unsuccessful men and actually apply reason and common sense. Is she an attractive cheerleader and volleyball player…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:25 PM
1	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I wasn't referring to women's standards at all, I'm referring to men who routinely claim and prove they will have sex with anyone willing and some who are not. Having sex with dozens of women means he's desperate for attention and scraping the bottom of the barrel, not popular with popular women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 04:41 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging There are dozens of fit men at my old gym, most are completely repellent for dozens of reasons. A nerdy, introverted gamer who believes in conspiracy theories is still going to be unappealing and unattractive to me when he works out. He can’t change who he is. And I would never trust or respect a man who pretends to be someone else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:36 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging What zone turns a man I’m not emotional, mentally, or physically attracted to into the man I am compatible with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:29 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Attraction has to do with more than mere physical features for women. Working out doesn’t change who he is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:25 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Does he want to have sex with a wife who is physically attracted? Or is this a business arrangement in which she gets financial compensation in exchange for legally binding herself to a man she doesn’t want to kiss?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:17 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging I thought you watched the video you demanded we watch before replying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:14 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging U don't have sex durinf the investment period? I will not have sex with any man I’m not powerfully attracted to, period. Why is every woman instantly mentioning sex like it's mandatory Because it’s assumed that marriages involve having sex with a partner one is attracted to for the duration of a marriage, and being pressured to have sex for decades with a man a woman isn’t attracted to is a horrible existence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:14 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging If both parties are on the same page, great. But it’s easy to see how much suffering both pressure to perform and rejection causes inside a long term relationship. Most marriages are not business arrangements, they are a love match. I don’t know anyone willing to sacrifice their body for decades so only one spouse gets what they want. And I don’t know anyone willing to forgo sex for decades because their partner isn’t attracted. Both sound like miserable lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:11 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging You didn’t even answer my question. Why did the narrator call the mailman a bad boy? Explain it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:05 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Unappealing men aren’t a good option for her future if either party expects to have an enjoy sex for the duration of the relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:04 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging It’s because TRP men here believe women’s sexuality is negligible and unimportant when compared to their desires. They don’t even try to hide it. “Women don’t know what they want” is one of their mantras.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 02:02 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging What is good about it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 01:56 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging Yes. It is called investing in the future. Meanwhile being pressured to have terrible sex with someone a woman isn’t attracted to for how long? Eternity? When is it ever a “responsible” idea for a woman to marry a man she doesn’t enjoy sex with? I bet there are hundreds of men on r/ deadbedrooms who wish they haven’t persuaded, mislead, or “won over” women who regard them as a roommate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 01:52 PM
–	The relationship zones video explains why women are self-sabotaging This is very hard to watch, it’s so painfully awkward. Why is the mailman moved to the “bad boy” category just because he’s good looking? What in the world would anyone spend this much time spitballing with no actual conclusion whatsoever? If there is no mutual attraction, men are people. That’s it. Not potential boyfriends, not potential fuckbuddies, not potential anything. They are generic human beings deserving of respect who are largely forgotten the moment they are out of sight. Same as wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 01:40 PM
1	This story illustrates the ego pumping that online dating apps can give women: To rehash, you are upset the woman in the OP lied and misrepresented her appearance, but you feel it should be acceptable for men to lie and misrepresent their appearance. When women use filters, they are untrustworthy. But when men lie about their height, it’s because women are superficial. That means you, in particular, overlook the woman’s use of filters because you, as a man, are not superficial, right? Just want to make sure you hold yourself to the same standards you expect from women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 01:05 PM
1	This story illustrates the ego pumping that online dating apps can give women: Your actual topic neatly switched to a discussion of how superficial women are, didn’t it, which means it isn’t about the filters on the video at all. People who say that 'oh the fact that you lied about being six foot instead of 5'10 is why I rejected you' are just trying to cover the fact that it's really just the height itself that caused the rejection No, it’s about the lying, because she might have liked him fine if he hadn’t lied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 12:42 PM
1	This story illustrates the ego pumping that online dating apps can give women: And people who get huffy about "lies" regarding superficial traits are typically lying to themselves about their superficiality. It’s precisely what you said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 12:35 PM
1	This story illustrates the ego pumping that online dating apps can give women: And people who get huffy about "lies" regarding superficial traits are typically lying to themselves about their superficiality. There it is. This isn’t about catfishing at all. This is a long-winded lead up to “Women are too superficial and most aren’t nearly as pretty as they think they are and should settle for average or below average men” Why didn’t you just lead with that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 12:30 PM
2	This story illustrates the ego pumping that online dating apps can give women: Hang out at work with me for a few hours or go to a bar and watch a dozen men lie right to my face about their height. Watch 5’9” men insist I’m three inches taller than my actual height because they are six feet tall. Watch them argue with me while I’m looking at the top of their head. Watch men who never go outside clomp around in Timberlands and men who get zero exercise sport AirMaxes to add a couple inches. Give a couple of these men some alcohol and they argue about my height very aggressi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 12:04 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources No. You are righting all of that evidence off as fake There is no evidence, only ragebait designed to derive revenue from engagement because TRP grifters know their audience very well. you don't believe these people exist and there aren't a lot of shitty women out there. Plenty of shorty people on the world without believing and sharing manufactured horseshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 08:02 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources So men can similarly ignore women who moan about SA and the like? If they have no evidence and no legal or professional action was taken, I don’t care what you believe. But camera and witnesses are everywhere. If you really don't believe that there are all these shitty women out there then I can only surmise you are one of the shitty ones as only a shitty one would think the actions of these types is ok. I can only guess you’ve confused me with another poster but I have no idea what you are refe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 07:17 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources Any proof they are fake? Yeah, the utter lack of sources. Every 8th grader knows how to verify sources. Many many men have experienced all the things posted about so the demonstration of these things is a legitimate demonstration on just how shitty women can be. Many men claim to have seen Bigfoot and ghosts. No one believes them without evidence, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 07:08 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources Photos of graphs and phony mock ups dating profiles and messages without source material is fake. That’s how the burden of proof works. Women can’t help it if men are gullible and believe anything male social media influencers bait them with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:43 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense If this is gospel, why aren’t those men getting snatched up left and right? There is far more to attraction than mere symmetry of features.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:13 PM
–	Most romance books/movies is toxic The same Bible in which God gambled on Job’s allegiance with Satan by murdering Job’s wife, children, and livestock? The same Bible in which OT God murdered all the male infants, children, and livestock? The same God who sent bears to mail children who made fun of a bald man? This is your model of masculine benevolence? Seriously?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:00 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense That doesn’t mean women will feel physical attraction for him. At best, it means he isn’t objectionable to look at in passing. At worst, it means “Why in the world does he think we’re compatible?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:54 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense They readily admit they spend all their time at work and in public spaces ranking and rating women. Might as well slap a number on them, too. I’d hate myself for reducing an entire human to a ranking, but hell. If we don’t turn the tables, they will never realize how horrid such behavior is. “Sure, he’s somewhat photogenic and has a decent job, but he’s friendless and ill-at-ease when speaking with strangers, believes conspiracy theories, votes against feeding indigent children and hates dogs an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:52 PM
1	Most romance books/movies is toxic Did you just… dismiss the entirety of art, fiction, poetry, prose, song, and religion by referring to the vast historical army of male authors as simps?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:46 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense On their flank.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:44 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources The sources are mostly fake graphs and fake messages to fake dating profiles they pulled from some manosphere social media influencers X feed. Science isn’t welcome in the manosphere or TRP in general.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:43 PM
–	Things might be obvious to you and annoying to be asked for sources but Ithink obvious things should still have sources It’s impossible because the manosphere was designed and managed by shady social media influencers who make money from recreational outrage. The graphs they link from Twitter? Zero sources. A gorilla could have mocked them up. The JPEGs of chadfishing and women supposedly responding to pedo dating profiles? Fake fake fake. The “field reports” posted by PUAs? Pure fantasy, and most of the major contributors to PUA content have been outed for hiring actresses. TRP is filled with blog posts men call…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:42 PM
0	Most romance books/movies is toxic Men have historically and presently written the vast bulk of romantic fiction. And almost all of it from the Labors of Hercules to the White Knight to the nerd-gets-the-girl describes men bowing at the feet of maidens, queens, and cheerleaders. Thank men for the social order of courtship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:34 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense Am I the only person who imagines men on the livestock auction block, with auctioneers displaying their biceps, portfolios, and the size and fullness of their testes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:30 PM
–	Most romance books/movies is toxic Most androcentric fiction is an iteration of Napoleon syndrome, in which the male lead smothers the female lead with ridiculous grand gestures of chivalry and phony heroism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:21 PM
6	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I don’t date unlikeable, unpopular men, so this isn’t a concern to me at all. But the idea that how much sex a man has indicated his desirability is laughable. Men fuck unconscious women in filthy alleys behind dumpsters. Guarantee Brock Turner counts that encounter as a “win” of some sort. Men drug women’s drinks at such an alarming rate that whole fortunes have been made on designing methods of protecting women’s drinks in public. If a man my age told me he’d had sex with 100 women, I’d know i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:14 PM
7	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? He did and still does. Depending on your market and interests, some of you see him and his wife on television and he’s pretty cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:02 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense Shots fired But yeah, this is succinct and ought to end this debate forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 05:01 PM
6	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? In all of my relationships, we discussed about past relationships. And it was great. You can't understand the other if you don't know his/her past. Maybe he/she has been abused, maybe he/she needs/wants something specific... If someone feels the need to share and the other is open, great. I’m not opposed to hearing about someone’s past troubles or insecurities if they feel it’s need-to-know information. But no, I’m not ever going to indulge a cuck fetish and describe the sex I’ve had with previo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:58 PM
–	Women do not decide what a man’s value is, and the idea that “if you can’t get her she’s out of your league“ is nonsense It doesn’t matter how a man rates his photo and his portfolio. What matters is mutual attraction, compatibility, rapport, and common values and goals. Please note I listed mutual attraction first. If there is none, compatibility, rapport, and common values and goals are irrelevant. Again: human beings are not cattle at auction and cannot be ranked on paper. The value of one human to another is based on how they fit or repel.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:54 PM
5	How traditional or modern is your ideal relationship? That’s typical and normal in my experience. It’s hard to communicate with the obsessive planners in PPD who develop weird “strategies” for every possible outcome in order to make their lives orderly and predictable, but outside of insular religious sects, humans are a unique combination of nature and nurture and some tend to follow whatever pattern they noted in their parents. Which can end disastrously if rigid thinkers become enraged by differing experiences and behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:48 PM
0	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I don’t know if this thread is a good fit, but the people who claim that sex is sacred and holy or whatever haven’t thought this through. Even when sex starts off gentle and slow, the route towards orgasm is a sweaty, frenzied, humping, feral couple-ten minutes. Maybe some virgins should prepare. But reaching orgasm is rarely a gentle, romantic process. That doesn’t mean a partner willfully spoils a romantic mood, that’s just how good sex usually ends. Even if the path to orgasm is slow, there a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:45 PM
8	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? Super easy to avoid, they tell on themselves all the time. Prying questions, TRP jargon, conspiracy rhetoric… This thread is like a primer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:39 PM
12	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I find it weird that men so desperately want to hear about other dick, and that level of insecurity immediately evaporates any respect and desire I have for that person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:09 PM
13	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? Okay. My high school boyfriend was nearly seven feet tall and has a dick bigger around than my wrist. He was also a D2 athlete who achieved some fame for breaking a record. I can’t imagine any future boyfriends actually want to hear about that. The only short man I ever dated and really fell for went completely to pieces when he saw our prom pics on the mantle at my parents’ a couple Christmas’ ago. Men think they want to know, and men think they can handle these discussions, but their “curiosit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 04:00 PM
6	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? The opposite is true. But digging into someone’s past isn’t my kink. It’s classless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:48 PM
8	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? The mark of a “true adult” is to display manners and decorum. I don't even want to have a casual conversation with someone crude enough to discuss the sex they’ve had in the past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:40 PM
2	How traditional or modern is your ideal relationship? You have that though, right? Or do I have you confused with another poster?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:37 PM
3	How traditional or modern is your ideal relationship? I like your answer better than my own and agree completely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:33 PM
2	How traditional or modern is your ideal relationship? I own my own home and land, and most men my age are either still at home or living with roommates or a rental. So anyone I date has to be okay with me being farther along in life. But I also don’t care that other people under thirty are still at home or haven’t saved or invested money. Those are my choices, because I grew up in a crowded house and worked to buy my own space. So definitely not traditional, with no expectations of others who are at different stages in their lives. How would you pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:32 PM
14	Would you date a man who has slept with 100 women? I wouldn’t date anyone so crass, period. Talking about sex with other people is the opposite of how to win someone’s favor and trust.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 03:25 PM
6	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? Yeah I don’t get this question at all. Anyone who goes outside sees as many women taking care of the yard as men, and it’s not a big deal. I’d rather do yard work than almost any mundane housekeeping chore. Maybe some men here don’t go outside or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 11:32 AM
1	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? Did you read the OP of the thread you are posting in?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 07:02 AM
4	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? For the same reason a person who lives in the desert has no reason to participate in a discussion about lawn care. Surely can’t be two non lawn owning people in a thread about mowing, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:57 AM
5	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? People who don’t have lawns aren’t in the discussion about mowing lawns, right? Why would anyone with sand and a xeriscape (or living in an apartment or condo) bother to chime in?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:38 AM
7	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? JFC mowing a lawn is nothing. Using a chainsaw and string trimmer is dirty and physically tiring but no big deal unless one is handicapped in some way, it’s an excellent method of burning calories. Whoever is home when the grass needs work is who does mows. Is OP from the mid century?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:36 AM
9	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? The car salesman are sleazy, manipulative, greedy people. Is this a real post? Car prices are available online and cars can be purchased and the price negotiated by simply choosing a dealership with the lowest prices. Salespeople who work on commission can be pushy and desperate but anyone can simply walk away from a bad price.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:29 AM
5	Are/Have female breadwinners (been) willing to do the OUTSIDE the house work? I’ve never met a woman in my life who has never cut a lawn, much less one who brags about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 06:26 AM
2	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men No, no. Attractive, socially adept men don’t pay for female attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 10:44 PM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men I dunno, as many men as TRP men call worthless Chads, drug dealers, losers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 10:26 PM
3	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men If those men were physically and socially attractive they were also popular in their younger years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 10:24 PM
1	Are women more biologically predisposed to homosexuality? What?? No. Men are far more likely to pursue sex at the cost of compromising their values but they hide it because they are worried about the repercussions of (you know) masculinity. Men are convinced the entire realm of sexuality belongs to them, including what women do and feel. Lesbians? Performative to appeal to men. Fashion? For men. Breasts? Girls grow them for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 09:11 PM
0	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Not a strawman, a relevant example. Was Weinstein creepy or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 08:05 PM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Nope, only old men or rich men who couldn’t possible attract women without wealth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:58 PM
2	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Probably the same percentage of women who date men who are taller since men tend to be taller and make more money than women. Why do you ask?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:52 PM
3	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Yes, prostitutes pretend interest, that's how they get paid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:03 PM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Harvy Weinstein got laid, and most women would argue he was a lot wartier, fatter, and more hideous and just monstrous in general than Guzman. Do you believe the wanna be actresses in Weinstein's sphere actually found him attractive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:00 PM
7	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men "Sugar babies" too. Prostitution is sex work no matter how it's framed. Some women are willing to act interested in order to extract resources from old men while still enjoying sex with men their own age on the sly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:58 PM
-1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Y'all think young actresses in Hollywood didn't think Harvey Weinstein was creepy?? Come on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:57 PM
4	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Money makes a man useful, not handsome.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:54 PM
3	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Attractive to prostitutes, sure. Why in the world are "older men with sexual capital, social capital, and financial capital" so excited about paying for attention from women who gave that attention to men their own age for free? How in the world do TRP men not see they are paying for sex from younger women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:54 PM
4	The real truth about women and nice guys I think what is going on is one man claimed his mother "lied to him" and the other men picked that up and ran with the claim blindly, much like the claim that "women aren't accountable" while collectively refusing to explain what women are supposed to be accountable for. In other words, I don't believe men. I absolutely believe men are disappointed and disaffected, and feeling disenfranchised, but I do not believe in any way this is women's fault because there is no evidence whatsoever that wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:44 PM
5	The real truth about women and nice guys What, exactly, were boys asking grown women about getting laid, dating, marriage or whatever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:41 PM
1	The real truth about women and nice guys They were lied to. Who lied to them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 05:01 PM
6	The real truth about women and nice guys Women don't care what undesirable men want, and men don't care what undesirable women want. It's weird that women understand that, but men don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 05:00 PM
1	The real truth about women and nice guys Again, I said IF THE MESSAGE IS GOOD OR CORRECT. Yeah, so how's that been working out so far? The Church believes their message is GOOD AND CORRECT while moving pedos around the planet to abuse boys. LDS church claims their message is GOOD AND CORRECT while concealing pedos, deviants, and killing women with ectopic pregnancies and denying PPD. JWs have been claiming to be GOOD AND CORRECT while moving pedos around the globe, allowing physical abuse of children and spouses, and concealing records…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 04:06 PM
7	The real truth about women and nice guys Oh. How bout you start? What do men want? State it plainly, and be sure to make it clear and speak for all men as TRP men expect women to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:59 PM
9	The real truth about women and nice guys Cool. Then hit up all those ugly, obese, single mothers with flat chests, flat butts, and no waists who haven't had any success with dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:58 PM
5	The real truth about women and nice guys TRP and PPD men routinely make the claim that women "lied to them" while also revealing they have no social life, don't want a social life, don't want friends, have no and don't want any female friends, and their entire social experience is lived online while gaming or pursing content by social media influencers who make money off of disenfranchised men. Not to mention the peculiar complaint that women are required to help men get laid and find romance? Like... how many tasks do men expect women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:56 PM
0	The real truth about women and nice guys Somebody's motivation matters less than their message. Oh? So when a church worth billions claims "We have to be careful and ensure that Protestants/Mormons/Catholics/Witnesses don't date outside their faith because everyone outside their faith are sexual deviants" while covering up centuries of sexual abuse from clergy members, their motivation for the message shouldn't count? You sure about that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:46 PM
4	The real truth about women and nice guys Women, just like men, don't give a flying fuck what people who they are not attracted to think of their choices. If she isn't dating him, she doesn't care if he approves of her choices. And if he isn't attracted to her, he doesn't care enough to consider what choices she makes. Why can't we all just tell the truth here? Men don't actually care about women's mental, emotional, or relationship health, unless they are attracted to her. Then it's suddenly a "social and global crisis". I mean, which …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:22 PM
6	The real truth about women and nice guys While it's heartwarming to imagine an online army of men deeply and sincerely concerned with the well-being of women, the truth is those men are only angry that they women they find attractive find other men attractive. The same army of deeply concerned, socially conscious and considerate men don't give a flying fuck what happens to women they do not find attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:19 PM
4	The real truth about women and nice guys But if they are attracted to bad men, why would men not mention that? Because that isn't a real problem and everyone knows that. Men who aren't successful with women aren't sincerely concerned with their happiness and safety, men who aren't successful with women focus on women they find attractive, while simultaneously expressing rage those women focus on men they find attractive. So what's the real problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:17 PM
2	The real truth about women and nice guys Good men also want the head cheerleader, then race to the internet to pen screeds against the quarterback.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 02:48 PM
8	The real truth about women and nice guys Nope. She's pointing out how men here obsessively focus on the women they find attractive, while simultaneously expressing impotent rage those women are interested in men they find attractive. Will PPD men ever admit they feel women don't have the same right to feel attraction as men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 02:46 PM
18	The real truth about women and nice guys Many women are attracted to men who they know are poor choices and bad news but they also don't want to own the social and moral repercussions of that. If men don't like particular women's choices, men shouldn't pay any attention to those women. Yet they do, because frustrated men are speaking specifically about women they find attractive. Any men want to explain why they castigate women for their interest in men they find appealing, while also obsessing over women they find appealing? Why pay a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 02:43 PM
4	Q4Men: Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating? What does acknowledging it change?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 03:36 AM
4	Q4Men: Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating? It’s just something men here repeat. No one knows what it means, especially not the men who parrot it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 01:49 AM
8	Q4Men: Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating? It’s a phrase which no one has ever adequately explained and makes zero sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 12:35 AM
6	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Women like all kinds of things, but few women want to offer their bodies for the use of a man who can’t enjoy regular sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 12:35 AM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated And how has that impacted human evolution with regards to other animals in which females choose which male they want to mate with?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 12:30 AM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Historically? Women didn’t have a choice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:18 PM
9	Q4Men: Why is it important that people agree that men have it harder in dating? When people learn that women aren't worth it, then they set boundaries and hold women accountable Accountable for what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:11 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated You think attractive women would be voluntarily having sex with hideous men if not for wealth? Laws forcing women to marry men because women couldn’t make their own money or get credit? Laws forcing women to have children they didn’t want? You think attractive women wanted to marry inbred Hapsburgs? You think 12 year old girls wanted to marry their older sister’s widower when his wife died in childbirth? The entire human race would be stronger, healthier, and infinitely more symmetrical and attr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:10 PM
3	CMV: Red Pill Principles Align with the Behaviors of Women with Untreated Borderline Personality Disorder BPD rarely affects women. BPD is 3:1 female patients to male.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 10:13 PM
0	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Thing is, dudes still want to do those stuff with their partners and explore a few kinks with them, but I don't think they would want to pressure their partners to do things they are not confortable with, so it's a lose lose game. Not only do those men pressure women out of a sense of ownership and entitlement, they enjoy taking what is it freely given. I've dated lots of women like that, I just move on after a while if they don't bring sexual energy to the bedroom. Women are the same. They have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 08:50 PM
1	What sex act permanently taints a woman? No, it’s “good luck with that insecurity and those demands”	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:43 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Red pill men obsess over fairness without any awareness of morality or decency. If her first boyfriend talked her into anal and it hurt her, the second guy wants to harm her the same way. If her first boyfriend forced her into facials, the second demands the same right to humiliate and disgust her. They want the same chance to humiliate and control women as more aggressive men while posing as “nice guys”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:41 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Not every action leads to reproduction, with humans or other animals. Several hundred species make use of cuckholding with is extraordinarily dangerous for both the smaller, sneaky males and the sneaky female animals which permit it or see it. Evolution isn’t progress and has no end goal, so lots of behaviors are risky or counterproductive. That’s across all species, and humans suffer the confounding factors of laws and religions which confound and interfere with natural order.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:38 PM
11	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. Of course not, because sex isn’t charity work. I choose to help kids in federal custody with my volunteer hours, not give sexual attention to disaffected men. But I certainly don’t take advantage of disaffected adults, either, nor would I encourage that as the “passport bros” do. It’s abhorrent, antisocial behavior. Fortunately women eventually figure out when they’ve been manipulated and when they leave, they do so with a finality which informs predatory men they got what they deserved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:32 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Agreeable men could date the very same women criminals date. Why don’t they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 07:26 PM
3	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. Men will gladly date a younger, socio-economically lower woman. Women will not do this. You don't see women lining up to date broke or homeless men. Taking advantage of vulnerable women isn’t a virtue. It’s criminal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:59 PM
14	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. They just don’t socialize with women, period and regard them as a separate species. Some admit they are misanthropes and have no friends at all, but they still want access to sex and care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:58 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Women hate kindness and boring behavior from men. They only get turned on by guys who have an edge and might be kind of dangerous if you say the wrong thing to him. The ability to flirt and his interest in sex don’t make a man “dangerous”, those are typical behaviors. Faux chivalry and inhibitions from men are atypical unless confined to a religious sect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:50 PM
1	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Nah, most women enjoy long and short term relationships with typical men. People grow up, develop different priorities, figure out different deal breakers and realize incompatibility. Part of life, no big deal. Most men and most women are doing just fine, learning as we grow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:47 PM
3	Is "netflix and chill" / cinema date dead? That’s cool. But listen. If I’m taking a class? I’m looking for remarkable creativity, tropes, and errors. If I’m watching a film for fun? I’m going to have fun. If I’m watching that film with a man who clearly changes mood and displays frustration and aggravation with an award winning director, award winning actors, award wringing writers, and popular while he’s in IT and has none of those experiences he’s so quick to criticize? I’m never, ever, never, ever ever going to have sex with a man who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:45 PM
3	What sex act permanently taints a woman? And Reddit votes are so very important on a sub where men outnumber women 25 to 1 😉	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:38 PM
1	What sex act permanently taints a woman? With that being said, for me sexual compatibility comes first, so if we weren't compatible in bed then I won't bother dating her long term to begin with, and that depends on a lot of things. I agree. I won’t date foot guys, exhibitionists, cucks, men who have paid for sex, inhibited men, religious or conservative men, or men who believe women in porn are actually aroused and having orgasms. Obviously trying something is not the same as doing something consistently. If she tried it once and didn'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:33 PM
4	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Did you start this thread under another one of your soon-to-be-banned alts? Your posts make zero sense otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:28 PM
2	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Absolutely correct, and for women, single is far better than settling for a man with a one-sided sexual desire to do things she doesn’t enjoy. Far too many willing, enthusiastic men out there to suffer fetishes and insecurity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:24 PM
–	Women are 100% repelled by genuinely kind men and respond positively to being mistreated Women with a typical sex drive and typical sexual identity prefer men who are as interested in sex as they are. Some of those men turn out to be jerks. Some turn out to be terrific. Some of those men suffer a lack of morals or personality disorders which inform them to pretend to be awesome at first, then the mask comes off and women realize they've made a big mistake. But inhibited, reserved, conservative, uptight, religious, pious, chivalrous (did I cover all the words which offend the least a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:14 PM
10	The first step to being with a woman is to make it absolutely known that you don't want to be her friend. She already decided if she was sexually attracted before he ever pretended to be her friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:09 PM
6	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Sure, if he's clever and appealing. I hate simpering and phony chivalry in any form.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:07 PM
5	What sex act permanently taints a woman? What exactly does "freak" entail? Because if it's mutually fun stuff, she'll do it enthusiastically. If it's only gratifying to him, why would she bother?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:06 PM
2	What sex act permanently taints a woman? What if the guy she loves is just terrible in bed, lacks intuition and care? Has fetishes or other weird issues? What if he is just awful with his tongue or fingers or has a hair trigger?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:04 PM
3	What sex act permanently taints a woman? What if she only enjoyed the other thing because the first guy did it right but the current guy is weird about it? Does she still have to do things which hurt or she hates? What if she only did the other thing under pressure, or out of curiosity and realized she hated it? Is she still supposed to do something she hates or that turns her off?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:03 PM
18	What sex act permanently taints a woman? And a considerable number of women who aren't keen on fetishes or porn addictions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 06:01 PM
2	What sex act permanently taints a woman? So you ask it then. Let's see how long it stays up when women refuse to date men with certain proclivities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 05:59 PM
11	The first step to being with a woman is to make it absolutely known that you don't want to be her friend. The way the OP is worded reads as though women are sexually attracted to all men until or unless he does something to screw that up. This is backwards. When she isn't attracted, the best she can offer is friendship or tolerance of his orbiting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 05:48 PM
4	What sex act permanently taints a woman? He won't ask because he knows men don't want to share the answer. TRP men love to feel they are in a position to disqualify women over sexual acts, but women disqualify men for quite a few of those as well, and men suffer fetishes are a far higher rate than women ever could. The corresponding thread would be shut down immediately for "kink shaming".	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 05:45 PM
6	Is "netflix and chill" / cinema date dead? I suppose people can have their mood ruined if instead of entertainment they are given a terribly made bad-faith sermon that fails to captivate, entertain, and deliver cathartic experience. Wow. That's quite an ask of corporations who capitalize on the appeal to the widest possible audience. There's a huge boom mic emerging within the shot in "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" (1997), and the film tests and stretches the audience's suspension of disbelief every minute. I still couldn't read the end cre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 05:34 PM
15	CMV: Red Pill Principles Align with the Behaviors of Women with Untreated Borderline Personality Disorder I'm trying to phrase this in a way which won't alienate consumers of red pill influencers, but men who desire attention, men who demand an audience and are willing to say and do outrageous things in order to arouse engagement, are precisely the men who desire and attract women of similar character. And their characters are equally awful. Attention seeking, mercurial, combative, prone to belief in conspiracies and disinterested in facts. The experience red pill social media influencers have is wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 05:09 PM
2	What sex act permanently taints a woman? Not going to ask women the same question?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 04:57 PM
21	CMV: Red Pill Principles Align with the Behaviors of Women with Untreated Borderline Personality Disorder Men who find resonance with Red Pill teachings might unknowingly have had significant interactions with women displaying untreated BPD traits. *Align with men who have zero female friends and whose only experience with women comes from social media and attention seeking, overdramatic red pill male social media influencers who duet attention seeking, over dramatic women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 04:40 PM
9	Is "netflix and chill" / cinema date dead? I feel like if I was a woman invited to a cinema date, this would still not entirely kill my interest. Only when combined with mind-virus rampaging cinema industry for the last decade and causing filmmakers to forget how colors work. The only thing that doesn't feel like attack on the senses when I type "New Netflix Original" in image search - is One Piece. The last film I took a girl on cinema date to was Iron Man 2, and it was a mistake. I've taken film classes, too, as part of one of my major…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 04:36 PM
8	CMV: Some of the red pill podcast ideologies are outright ridiculous RedPill podcast bros are the absolute equivalent to female social media influencers. It's wild to me that men refuse to acknowledge their tendency to follow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 04:20 PM
5	CMV: Some of the red pill podcast ideologies are outright ridiculous The motivations for doing it might genuinely be to promote ideologies, improve mens' lives, share information, etc. No one is doing this for free. Social media influencers make money with clicks, likes, interactions, and shares, and polarizing, controversial content is designed to make money via engagement, not to actually "help" anyone. Enraging disenfranchised men is the whole point, this is how they make their money and achieve their peculiar level of notoriety.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 03:09 PM
3	Do men realize that the “loose pussy” is the kind that most women have? Sorry girl but if you ever stick your dick in a mature prostitute Prostitutes are not turned on and are lubed up. They just want it over with, they know it isn't going to be fun or exciting for them, so they don't bother to feel arousal. They are just tying not to reveal their disgust while pretending to enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 02:32 PM
7	Does a woman’s sex drive really play a big part in their dating life/success? Typically women enjoy sex, seek sex, and masturbate. That doesn't mean that deviation from typical is abnormal, but it does mean those women would be happier with men who have matching interests in sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 02:20 PM
3	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? There is a whole discussion to be had about the Madonna/whore complex.* The emotional and social conflicting ideas men have about women keep them spinning in circles. The want women to approach them, but they don't trust women who approach them and assume those women are desperate or promiscuous. They want to take charge and approach women with their masculine frame...but they want those women who are not interested to treat them like children and pretend to be flattered while making an excuse w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 02:13 PM
3	Do men realize that the “loose pussy” is the kind that most women have? Unused muscles are soft, like gamer bodies. Muscles which get used often are toned and fit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 11:45 AM
1	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? You guys are funny. In every one of these discussions half the men stamp their feet and proclaim women ought to be making the first move right now. And the other half of men say “whoa whoa whoa, if she approaches first, she’s obviously a desperate whore”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 02:48 AM
9	What do you feel not heard about? man or woman. And are you willing to listen to the other side? Because he brings months to years of toxicity and misogyny with him. How is he going to erase the programming?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 01:32 AM
5	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? There isn’t anything wrong with sex or wanting sex, no idea why this is your sticking point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 12:31 AM
7	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? I’m basing it on what men say here, so yeah, it’s a generalization backed up by one hundred instances of men confessing they will fuck anything or date any one of one hundred women who says yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/23 12:12 AM
13	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? Right, but have you seen the reasons conservative women here give for not approaching? “Men are always reminding women that they will fuck almost any willing woman. So if women approach, they are setting themselves up to be used for sex”. That’s a legit argument. I have no problem flirting and arranging activities, but I don’t date men who will fuck any willing woman. I’m not concerned about being used for sex, I only have sex when I’m comfortable with a boyfriend. But I do agree that most women…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 11:28 PM
2	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? The “blue pill” doesn’t have an about. It’s simply a response to hateful and toxic red pill rhetoric, not a prescription for behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 11:27 PM
7	For men who do get approached, do you mostly get approached by women you actually want? Definitely will reference this thread the next time men plead with women to do the approaching.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 11:23 PM
0	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. u/Manbehindthemask2468Red Pill Man You’re responsible for your own orgasm just like mine ❤️ No one is stopping you from getting yours alone. Men here make it real easy for women to feel confident about the decision to never give Nice Guys or terpers a chance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 09:12 PM
0	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. Many men don’t care about women’s enjoyment, they just want access to women. TRP men seem especially disinterested in a mutually gratifying sexual experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 08:56 PM
-2	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. It’s men’s fault they have hair triggers and a porn education.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 08:07 PM
1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. You mean like nearly all women do? Still want to claim women are drowning in sex when most of it will not be gratifying for women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 08:06 PM
0	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. Nothing stopping men from seeking sex from partners who enjoy it while they merely serve as a receptacle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 07:29 PM
1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. Did you quote the right person? Sex in which one person gets an orgasm while the other does not is not as fun or desirable as sec in which both partners achieve gratification. Is that something men don’t understand? Or something men choose to ignore?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 07:28 PM
1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. I didn’t refer to myself at all. You decided to take an insulting shot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 07:19 PM
1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. Every woman in my sphere except one enjoys sex. That’s typical for women. But women don’t enjoy sex at the same rate as men. That’s something you might discover someday.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 07:13 PM
-1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. How would anyone know if a lover is going to be selfish or suffer a hair trigger or hang-ups before sex happens?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 05:59 PM
1	With women, you need to cultivate the vibe if you want a good conversation. Your deleted post history is notable, since I've explained Stats 101 to you one hundred times. such as incel terrorism. Oh, you want to do this again? Okay. Women don't experience stranger violence at the same rate as men because women take precautions when outside their home and women are also stuck inside the home far more often than men. Women abuse substances and participate in gang activity and violence far less often than men. What disenfranchised men want is to convince women they are saf…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 05:31 PM
1	If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert. I think we both have it hard, but in ways neither can ever truly understand. No. If sex isn't gratifying, it's nothing more than another person using your body for one-sided gratification while you are left frustrated and disgusted. Men are willing to experience the same thing if it would in some way trigger their empathy. Go out and find a person who is unpleasant and selfish and allow them to have sex with you, but make sure you don't enjoy it or reach orgasm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 05:16 PM
1	With women, you need to cultivate the vibe if you want a good conversation. u/Amiskon, do you understand why most car accidents happen within five miles of the home? It's because that's where drivers are most often. The factor is proximity. Domestic violence against women is more common from domestic partners or family because that's where women are more often. Domestic partners share all the stressors of life like child care, financial problems, elder care, typical domestic disagreements, substance abuse, and all the general stressors which arise when a couple meshes t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 04:14 PM
6	The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kids Some men don't possess an overwhelming desire for sex, but they do possess the capacity to give love and receive love. Degrading those men in this sub is kind of appalling. Sexuality is a spectrum. Not every man or woman requires frequent sex to feel fulfilled and affectionate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/23 03:35 PM
5	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. A guy falls for a woman and she friend zoned him. She didn’t do anything to him. I don’t see any winning here from those options. Why should he “win” anything? He can simply recognize his one-sided feelings and push them aside and enjoy a mutually beneficial friendship and/or focus his romantic and sexual energy on someone who is actually interested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 10:04 PM
9	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. …he could recognize that love requires the consideration of her feelings at least as important as his own? If he doesn’t care if she loves him or who she loves, why should she care who he “loves”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 09:37 PM
5	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Sure they can win, when they actually care half as much about her feelings as their own.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 09:13 PM
1	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Sex lasts but a moment Sure, if it’s done with someone you don’t respect or love or done while under the influence. With someone you love? It’s something amazing you share with no one else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 09:12 PM
6	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Edited, left out apostrophes. Oh really. Are those feelings “involuntary and uncontrolled” when she’s married? Dating your brother’s wife or your best friend’s girlfriend ? When she’s your cousin or step sibling? So men can’t control themselves or their feelings and all? Does that mean it isn’t safe for your friends and relatives to bring their attention active wives and girlfriends or minors around men who “can’t control their involuntary feelings”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 09:10 PM
1	Q4M- How would you feel if your wife got your child a medical exam after you looked after them to make sure you didn't molest them? fact they have taken the lead in raping kids in schools. What in the world?? Who told you this? Male perpetrators in schools make up 90%	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 09:06 PM
9	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Men can't walk away when they realize their desires are one-sided?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 06:48 PM
-1	Q4M- How would you feel if your wife got your child a medical exam after you looked after them to make sure you didn't molest them? No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 06:24 PM
3	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Those people didn't find love, they look like they never even looked for love in the first place. Are you familiar with how men lay it on thick when they want sex? Men pretend to be all kind of good fathers, competent family members, and earnestly dedicated to the conventional family. Until they realize the access to sex might temporarily wane due to the responsibilities of pregnancy, birth, post partum, infant and toddler care. Until they realize their mommy allowed the weaponized incompetence …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 06:04 PM
2	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Okay, maybe I misunderstood you, apologies. But there is a space between "keeping up the spark" and "turning her into his mother". If he thinks nothing of chucking his shit-stained underwear in the laundry then pouting over a blow job, if he thinks nothing of punching walls because he was asked to pause his game and take care of the infant so mom could shower, if he thinks nothing of tossing his half-eaten plate into the sink, leaving dishes all over the house, ignoring the hungry dog which need…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:42 PM
6	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Moreover he has more skills than her. That's what I just said. He didn't love or respect her. He wanted her. That's what men do. They want to take a woman and lock her down quickly before another man can get her and "defile" her. They don't care about her talent, her goals, her dreams, her skills or experience. Boys watch a female student from across a room and build entire worlds and futures based on how badly they want to possess her, before they even talk to her. There is another, in this cas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:38 PM
4	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. they see the spark as something necessary and vital in the relationship and men have the responsibility to keep it up. That's wildly incorrect. Men can't "keep it up" and TRP men are incorrectly confident that attraction can be created and negotiated.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:18 PM
6	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. Huh? Red pill doesn't even consider personality and shared values and experiences. RP reduces everything to money and muscles/height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:17 PM
8	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. I have just as many stories as the opposite. "Attractive" means socially and emotionally intelligent as well as sharing common values and experiences to women. Dick size (bra size) and height (hip to waist ratio) aren't nearly as important to women as to men, since who those men actually are contributes to attraction or the lack thereof. Get in touch with your boy. Bet you he would still have married her if she kicks puppies, because men tend to idealize women based on their physical attraction …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:13 PM
15	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. This is the most frustrating incongruity I see on PPD, and it seems to emanate exclusively from men on the spectrum, who don't seem to care or even recognize humanity. If she's a teenager or woman they'd jerk off to, she's a ten. If she's plain or only moderately attractive she's worthless, even if she's a terrific person who is well-respected and likable with a large crowd of friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 05:00 PM
11	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. That's how I was raised. I was forced to go to prom with boys I had no interest in "just because they'd never had photos or the experience otherwise" from ages 13 to 17. I don't know how many people here saw Napoleon Dynamite (I think it came out when I was two or three), but a student was coerced into going out with an incredibly strange and awkwardly aggressive classmate she was disinterested in. That's the role I was placed in. I doubt my parents or my teachers felt the boys I went for photos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:58 PM
20	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. I don't think it matters, honestly. "Nah" is sufficient. Men don't beleive women anyway when women refer to chemistry, and men refuse to factor in personality, compatibility, goals and experience when they calculate "attractiveness". Men only count external, physical characteristics. So it's not like men are going to believe women anyway when a woman says "Yeah, he was too aggressive/unsmiling/intense/religious/areligous/political/apolitical/humorless/insensitive...etc. Women might as well compl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:53 PM
15	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. If she isn't interested, he isn't "attractive".	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:49 PM
17	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. I think in most cases the ick is just women trying to justify not being attracted to someone. No one has to "justify" a lack of attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:39 PM
28	It doesn’t matter how interested a girl is, they can and will lose interest at the drop of a hat over the most minor thing or sometimes nothing at all. This is the biggest problem in dating that doesn’t receive nearly enough attention. More importantly, it is the most emotionally upsetting and damaging of any other issue, as this usually happens after a man is invested and has developed some degree of emotional connection/attachment. Men have a well documented habit of "getting invested" long before a woman has even considered him as a partner. The entire creation and perpetuation of the phrase the friendzone is the result of a fiction created from whole cloth; the unfounded claim that a woman has somehow made a young man feel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:38 PM
8	The ethics of Paternity test vs Go-bags Wouldn't this be something you share with your partner if that was the motivation? both so that they know where it is in case you cant get to it and so that they can make one of their own? Do you actually believe that men admit a priori they are eventually going to demand a paternity test before they have sex with a woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 04:19 PM
2	Machismo is not what prevents men from relating to each other Words have meanings ya know,we know what machismo is. So does every human on the planet with access to the OED. :aggressive male behaviour that emphasizes the importance of being strong rather than being intelligent and sensitive	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 03:48 PM
–	Men are constantly told they overrate their appearance but you very rarely see men do this, and women do this to such a greater degree that it is classic projection The number of middle aged, balding, paunchy, creaky married men who believe that a 20-27 year old woman might actually find them sexually appealing is far too high for OP to be true. Men's testosterone levels lend them an exorbitant amount of swagger and sexual confidence undeserved. Men's conviction they can be "good lovers" to women who aren't attracted is also unmatched by women. Also, hundreds of studies demonstrate that men overestimate their physical attractiveness, but I have a feeling PP…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 03:23 PM
–	Men are constantly told they overrate their appearance but you very rarely see men do this, and women do this to such a greater degree that it is classic projection "We had great chemistry and she ghosted me"	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 03:21 PM
–	Men are constantly told they overrate their appearance but you very rarely see men do this, and women do this to such a greater degree that it is classic projection If women aren't physically attracted, they haven't underrated those men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 03:20 PM
–	Men are constantly told they overrate their appearance but you very rarely see men do this, and women do this to such a greater degree that it is classic projection I also think a lot of these women rather rate their own self steem, not their looks, Good try, not not quite. Women rate themselves on the same scale they rate men: with a combo of physical appearance and competence, personality, and potential. Women don't marry a man because he's physically, objectively model pretty but completely useless and immoral. But a woman will marry a man who is less than a 9 or 10 if he's competent, has a great personality, and has potential to be a good companion or f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 03:18 PM
4	CMV: People who beg/demand for empathy typically don’t have empathy for others. Women largely get their emotional needs and wants catered to. “Men can’t even grab asses at work anymore thanks to MeToo” “Men don’t care if the pregnancy could kill a child, she shouldn’t have spread her legs for a pedophile” “What’s wrong with catcalling? It’s a compliment” “Women should be receptive to cold approach because not everyone has a social life, even if strange men make women uncomfortable or afraid” “Women have no expectation of safety or privacy in public, men are horny and want t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 06:59 PM
6	"Progressive" women falling short? Ben Shapiro in the sheets *closet	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 03:57 PM
1	Men don’t care about love Crimes of passion, honor killings, punching holes in walls, road rage, smashing televisions when a team loses, smashing monitors and gaming systems say otherwise	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 02:28 PM
6	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? Each should consider the quality of life of their children as more important than their own selfish desires.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 04:09 AM
2	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? Shoulda had them at an appropriate age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 03:39 AM
9	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? The average middle aged man will never compare to Patrick Stewart.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 03:38 AM
2	College educated women, would you ever consider settling for a man without a college degree Ha ha do you live in Harlan Kentucky?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 12:09 AM
4	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Men have all these fictional superheroes they tattoo all over their bodies and cling to as the archetype of masculinity and power. Good God the number of Infinity Gauntlet tattoos on grown-ass men... Women have Rosie the Riveter, a real human being who existed and persisted and proved her worth as an employee. We stand on the shoulders blah blah you know the rest. Florence Nightingale and thousands of nurses who pinched spurting arteries shut and spoke in soothing tones. Duckworth, who continues…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:56 PM
5	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. a bitch, a slut, or a lesbian. But never a human being, a caricature. JFC. I'm glad you are out, but I'm also grateful you served because pioneers like you are the reason women like me can get a job in a male dominated field.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:38 PM
8	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. particularly in the military Whoa… I guarantee you were (are?) up against several generations of traditional men and faced serious discrimination. I’m mostly just mildly peeved by men’s silly attitudes about women. I am definitely not equipped to handle military level discrimination. I hold my ground at work and I’m a spokesperson who represents women in my field, but I’d crumple under military conditions. Todays the day to thank you for your service, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:18 PM
4	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. You are correct. Men are expected to be competent and independent, and women are patted on the head when they display competence and independence. It's also true that men really don't care if a woman lives at home or owns her home, but women do care about that. There are some distinct differences in the expectations of men and women which are biased and unfair. Women suffer the counterpart (no point in listing them) of societies expectations, but it doesn't effect her dating options much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:10 PM
2	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women That's unfortunate and I'm glad I don't hear it often. Do you think they are projecting? Do those women assume that skinny women are judging them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:08 PM
13	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. I don't believe they think about it at all, much less recognize it as a character flaw. They simply can't conceive of a woman with her own responsibilities and agendas. I have a hobby car and belong to a women's rally club, but when I take the car out alone, men always ask if it's my husband's or boyfriend's. I work in a male dominated field, and clients tease me about choosing the job to be around rugged men. They don't seem to understand it's my wheelhouse. Women can't possibly have a life out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:06 PM
5	College educated women, would you ever consider settling for a man without a college degree Yep. Half the men in my group of friends are in trades, and most make more than the friends with Master's and they are competent and creative as well. The tile guy was featured in a national home/decor magazine in July and also makes TikTok money by showing his work. The HVAC guy really only works six months per year, during the heat of summer and the coldest part of winter. The rest of the time he fucks off to various coasts to dive and deep sea fish. The electrician's job was just posted as he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:01 PM
4	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women He's a total piece of shit who said that out of earshot of others just before he retreated to the safety of his car. The kid pushing the carts in is swole and went after him, then walked back to me to apologize for that perv's behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:53 PM
22	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Men aren’t the only ones with a life. A lot of them don't believe this. They seem to think that women work for play money, to waste on frivolous things like makeup and manicures. They seem to think that all women want is to serve as an accessory to men's lives. A means to their end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:52 PM
16	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. Okay, well here I am trying to actually take women on dates and ideally form a relationship with them, but it's a joint effort and it sucks when the other person ghosts me after we did initially click well. I don't date online or date strangers, but I have a lot of female friends and all have reported men believing they had chemistry when the women felt nothing. There was a recent thread about this on a woman's sub, it's apparently a common and frustrating phenomenon. I guess so, but I'm really …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:50 PM
10	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women Most men's attention is awkward to creepy, and occasionally threatening. The only good attention from men comes specifically from the man she is interested in. That's the weird thing about men's tendency to project. If a man believes that women enjoy all men's attention, that means he also believes that his attention in particular is desirable. I had an unpleasant encounter with an older man this morning who turned all the way around in line to stare me up and down. Kept trying to make small tal…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:44 PM
8	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women I've been that "skinny bitch" my entire life, and yes, a few overweight women are critical of thin or fit women because they assume those thin and fit women are secretly judging them. It comes from insecurity about one's social place, but thankfully isn't common. I've heard other women talk more shit about other women than other men do. You are hearing it because they are seeking an alliance, and ally. Someone to reassure them that fit and thin women aren't the only desirable women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:39 PM
6	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? Young "bums" offer reliable dick, relatable experiences and conversation, a sense of fun, strong backs, working knees and hips, good health, a ton of energy, and absolutely zero Golden Age fallacy lectures.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:34 PM
25	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? I think it’s just because it’s kinda pathetic and silly and brings to mind bad combovers, midlife crisis sports cars and sugar daddies in denial. Can't imagine any woman being jealous over these men. The old man who clumsily tries to flirt with the teenaged server is a liability and a public embarrassment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:32 PM
0	Are women jealous of guys dating younger women, or are they perhaps legitimately concerned for the women? Two things. Mostly concerned for the women because I've been that younger woman and I'm still that younger woman who is apparently attractive to old men. "You're mature for your age" "You're not like the other girls" "I can talk to you about things I can't tell my wife" "I could get in big trouble if anyone found out how I feel about you." And also because "Old man, get out of my face I'm not remotely interested in your attention or how dull and monotonous your sex life is with your wife and I d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:31 PM
20	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women Sure. Maybe because you’re all lying because you can’t admit you like male attention. The attention of most men is unwanted and problematic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:26 PM
25	Women genuinely have to do nothing to attract men. The double standard is ridiculous. I have a job, a home to maintain, a car to maintain So do women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:25 PM
8	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women Men here admit they only work out for female validation. Meanwhile there is a waitlist at my women's only gym because women work out for their mental and physical health and occasionally vanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:23 PM
17	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women I went out for a girl dinner last night in a tight red dress and heels. I didn't want any man's attention and ignored every comment. It's a dress I also wear on dates, and his attention is all that matters. Every other man can keep his unwanted opinion to himself. 3.5 million people participate in r/makeupaddiction, a sub strictly modded against objectification and sexual comments. Men are routinely banned from that sub, in which women show other women their makeup looks, many of which are creat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:21 PM
14	Women don't rate each other in the same way men rate women The average woman is appraised and rated on a daily basis, sometimes hourly basis by nearly every straight man in her vicinity. She doesn't care if 99.9% of those men find her attractive. "Men hate septum piercings" Good, that means it's working because she doesn't want your attention anyway "Men hate false eyelashes/lip injections/heavy makeup/long fake nails" No one asked men for their unwanted, irrelevant opinion "No obese woman has any business referring to herself as a ten" She isn't remote…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:17 PM
1	Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges? If English is a second language, I apologize, but I believe you don't understand the meaning of the word objectification. "the act or an instance of treating a person as an object or thing" Finding someone physically attractive isn't objectification, as the usual process involves getting to know that person as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:12 PM
2	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? Yes, then they lash out with venom at the very thing they want the most. It's like kicking a stray dog then expecting it to follow you home and do tricks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:08 PM
8	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? Oh right. I guess I just imagined that fat woman being put on the cover of the fucking sports illustrated swimsuit issue What the fuck. Do men believe that Sports Illustrated only belongs to men and caters to men? That's insane. Female athletes are featured in every single issue. Women watch sports and enjoy reading about athletes and competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:06 PM
3	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? Hi, it's me. The spokeswoman for all the other women. We have no idea where men got the idea they are supposed to find obese women "hot". It would be super cool if men would treat women like human beings, yes, even the women men don't want to fuck. But no one, not even Lizzo or Ashley Graham, gives a flying fuck if men find them sexually attractive. Women, collectively, would appreciate it if men would stop perpetuating this lie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:04 PM
5	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? But they don't want platonic female friendship and support, do they. Are they actually lonely? Or is it the other thing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:02 PM
5	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? Even if the woman saying that lost her virginity at 16, when neither of the people involved had a job, or money, or a place of their own to live, or even a cheap crappy car, and certainly weren't emotionally mature in any way, shape, or form. I was fifteen with a boyfriend of a year. The boyfriend who spent hours and hours with me on the phone telling me all his hopes and dreams, all his struggles and doubts. The boyfriend I hiked half of a mountain range with at every opportunity. The boyfriend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:00 PM
1	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? Physical attraction and who he is matter equally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:57 PM
3	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? from place of frustration and anger because she doesn’t do anything else romantic Holy shit. Taking care of his home, buying and cooking the groceries, making sure he has his favorite foods, forgoing rights to the television so he can bogart the remote, and washing his shit-stained underwear while still mustering the attraction to blow him is the epitome of romance. Taking care of a man she loves is romance, but he takes it for granted because he places all women in the mommy role.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:56 PM
6	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? "I was a teenaged boy once" "Because I'm a man and I know how boys think" "I will greet him with a shotgun when he shows up to take him to prom because I know what he wants you to do tonight"	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:53 PM
3	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? "Men want to hang out with their bros, men don't need or want female friends. Females are boring and have stupid hobbies anyway. If women didn't provide sex and take care of a man's children, men would never talk to women"	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:52 PM
7	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? You think women’s attraction criteria would change due to “lack of fear”? Yeppers. What happens when women do seek and enjoy sex? They are called whore, slut, ignorant comments about a stretched out pussy and even more ignorant comments about women "losing their ability to pair bond". Why would a woman risk having sex with a meek nerd who is bound to immediately mistrust her and call her names, then go online and talk about what a slutty whore she is? "I have the choice of basically a whore..."	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:49 PM
4	Dear Women, Do you think all men care about is sex? The discussion centers around men wanting something from women who are not interested in giving it. It doesn't matter if he wants a Hallmark romance or sex with a near-stranger if she isn't mutually interested. Women aren't surprised that men desire sex. Women aren't surprised that men desire relationships. What annoys women is men's utter lack of concern in her level of interest or disinterest. It's easier to say "his desire to wet his dick is not more important than whatever I am doing" than t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:43 PM
5	How much would a month of "be the other sex" for everyone change the game. I agree the word creepy is a weapon, and I don't use that word IRL. I'm using it now to describe a woman's perception of a man who makes romantic or sexual overtures in the complete absence of context or mutual interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 07:38 PM
0	Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges? Getting rejected purely for how you look is a perfect example of men being objectified by women. Furthermore, it’s also disrespectful. If there is no physical attraction, no sexual attraction, there is no date. No relationship. No interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 06:45 PM
–	How often do you have to deal with competition from other women? I do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 06:42 PM
5	How much would a month of "be the other sex" for everyone change the game. Yes, some attractive men who assume their attention is appropriate or wanted are creepy. Some unattractive men whose attention is inappropriate are creepy. Unwanted romantic or sexual attention from anyone = creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 04:05 PM
7	How much would a month of "be the other sex" for everyone change the game. Creepy is the failure to understand and react to social cues. Often that does mean an ugly guy approached an attractive woman, but attractive men can also be creepy when they don’t get social cues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 02:27 PM
5	Would you say that men or women have more or less privileges or specifically different privileges? Men are generic human beings regarded with respect rather than objectification. What recognition do men expect?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 05:53 AM
–	current dating climate in 2023 Anti-intellectualism isn’t my thing. Out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 01:53 AM
–	current dating climate in 2023 I don’t have “framework” since I’m a Biologist and not a sociologist or psychologist. A widely accepted definition is “ Prosocial behavior is voluntary behavior intended to help or benefit another individual while antisocial behavior has been defined as behavior intended to harm or disadvantage another individual”	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 01:27 AM
–	current dating climate in 2023 I’m a biologist, not a fan of soft sciences. But prosocial/antisocial/asocial behaviors are valid, simple descriptors of human behavior which have immediate and long term effects on their lives and the lives of others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 01:01 AM
4	How often do you have to deal with competition from other women? … that means she is also “hot” and has a dozen or more orbiters, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 09:23 PM
13	How often do you have to deal with competition from other women? Never. I don’t have any interest in a man who prefers another woman. If he isn’t enthusiastically into me, he’s a friend and I’m rooting for him to find his match.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 09:21 PM
–	current dating climate in 2023 I don’t know why you feel that prosocial behavior compares to antisocial behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 09:10 PM
2	current dating climate in 2023 I'm in charge of interns at work, and I highly recommend men get an enthusiastic yes before acting on their desires. People lose their jobs over gambling on a maybe or pushing a woman who hasn't shown anything beyond embarrassed polite responses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 06:37 PM
1	current dating climate in 2023 Assuming that a man attempting to date a coworker will get ratioed and fired is also ridiculous, but I'm responding to the OP's concerns. If any person wants to ensure their attention is wanted and appropriate, an enthusiastic yes is the sole determinant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 06:32 PM
2	current dating climate in 2023 One, not everybody is going to give this "enthusiastic yes". Do they suffer from a spectrum disorder or cyclothymia? If no, don't go out with people who aren't enthusiastic about your company.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 06:16 PM
1	current dating climate in 2023 Did you reply to the wrong post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 06:09 PM
2	current dating climate in 2023 The only time we hear about "100% enthusiastic" are people that get termed "desperate". No? Where in the world did that come from? If the female coworker isn't excited about chatting with and spending time with a male coworker, it's risky. Even agreeing with someone off OLD to a date doesn't mean they're 100% enthusiastic about it. Why in the world would anyone pursue a date with anyone who isn't enthusiastic? "If it isn't an enthusiastic yes, it's a no".	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:57 PM
5	current dating climate in 2023 The fear is from PUAs reaction to rejection. Women don’t fear being kidnapped or something, just aggression or violence after rejection. The overarching complaint is about the scattershot approach and the lack of interest in shared values and experiences. Objectification is only good for the people who get paid to be objectified. But even sex workers aren’t interested in dating men who select them based on appearance alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:26 AM
9	current dating climate in 2023 Have any women anywhere complained about sex robots or whatever they are called? If a man is unable or disinclined to date, sex toys are a solid option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 04:05 AM
13	current dating climate in 2023 If someone at work isn’t 100% enthusiastic, yeah, it’s a bad idea for men and women. Women aren’t as interested in strangers as they are acquaintances they share common interests and ideas with. That is normal and healthy. Friends aren’t matchmakers. Friends are whose company you enjoy whilst you go out and do fun things. But social proof is a real phenomenon which facilitates talking to strangers. “Oh, you like this band/beer/food/festival/art? We do too, but what is your favorite…?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 03:59 AM
4	current dating climate in 2023 It's gotta be scary being weak and little. Why the extremes? I’m not weak, I’m not “little”. I’m thin but I’m relatively fit, as are most of my female friends, but nothing we do will ever make us stronger than an aggressive man. But that isn’t women’s main complaint about strangers. Women generally aren’t interested in men they share no common experiences and values with, which makes approaches by strangers a minor nuisance, not a terrorizing event.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 03:56 AM
8	current dating climate in 2023 How is not being objectified by randos causing depression in men? As I understand it, the difference isn’t the climate, but the lack of social spheres. My siblings are 15-20 years older and they pushed me pretty hard to join. To play sports, to join clubs, to host parties and meet friends at the beach. People who aren’t interested in friends and socializing and people whose community is largely online can’t do this, so they seem to think that cold approaching strangers is the only way to meet wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 03:33 AM
3	“Where are all the good men” I guess I still don’t get it. If those women are rejecting men who don’t meet their standards, they aren’t desperate, right? Unrealistic for sure, but they appear to have options. But also, social media influencers and viral videos are generally shit, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 03:30 AM
3	“Where are all the good men” I just looked through it, and I’m not sure I understand the point. Aren’t those women rejecting men, therefore not looking for men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 03:02 AM
8	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Okay. Then men play sports and exercise for female attention. No, it isn’t a hobby. Men only do things because they crave female validation. Right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 09:12 PM
9	“Where are all the good men” I've never seen this online or in person from any woman, but it is repeated frequently by TRP or MGTOW adherents. Who is saying this? What demographic, what age? Where?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 06:33 PM
6	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Perfect example of men projecting their feelings onto women. Women get attention all the time in public, at work, on social media. It’s cheap and worthless. The only attention which is relevant to her life comes from the man she loves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 03:58 PM
2	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? The new is more fun and likely at least pretending to be independent and competent while the relationship is young.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 03:49 PM
5	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Yep. A husband and father doesn’t want to be treated as a paycheck and a wife/mother doesn’t want to be treated as a servant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 01:16 PM
7	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? What you aren’t getting is that she isn’t going to have fantastic sex if he also neglects her or takes advantage. They won’t have fantastic sex if she’s treated like the hired help. But if he shares the mundane, everyday chores and childcare, she will definitely be more excited about sex and have more time and energy, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 01:15 PM
7	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Who said she didn’t?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 12:08 PM
45	Is sex, then attention the most important thing to women? Women leave because a man is either inattentive or takes her for granted. She loses interest in sex with the selfish and disengaged man and finds everything with the new guy more appealing than time with someone who treats her like the hired help.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/23 11:56 AM
9	Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women. This is a very good description of why it’s so off-putting. Women don’t want to date a man who roams the streets and stores begging women for attention, and no woman wants to be the only one of 99 who he settled for because she’s the only one who said yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 02:55 AM
2	Cold approach is one of the worst methods of getting women. Agreed, and the men running the “numbers game” are at fault for causing women to walk around with RBF, to suspect every man who insists on an audience, to wear masks, and to generally behave in an unfriendly, cold manner towards strangers. A few women enjoy the attention, but even those few admit they don’t actually go out with randos who are desperate for attention. PUA ruined non-social venues for women. I miss small talk. I love strangers and smile all the time. But I’m guarded as hell and I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 02:53 AM
3	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? Shew I don’t want to relive it. I left out the moron who burned out my clutch (costly) and the chainsaw incident of last month because it scared hell out of and wasn’t amusing at all. But I do look askance whenever any man claims he “loves” one of my hobbies. I no longer believe men who claim to be experts in anything. They are not safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 02:40 AM
3	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? My second hand embarrassment could never. There were two kids on campus who would whip out cards or magic tricks for no apparent reason and utterly out of context. You’d be walking across campus and suddenly Pete would be in your face cutting off your path with a flurry of playing cards or a scarf trick. I sat him down and tried to explain context. “Save that for parties, it’s really jarring anywhere else”. And he said “Whatever. Bitches love magic tricks”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:20 PM
1	Being in a position where you can pursue women is a privilege The answer for everyone except extreme introverts and misanthropes is to cultivate and maintain a social circle so you have people to go to fun places with. These are not the people you date, although it does happen occasionally. These are people you do activities with because strangers in social spaces are far more comfortable chatting when a man has friends, because the loners tend to cling and wear out their welcome. They look a little desperate and predatory, too, because they are there to h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:52 PM
3	Being in a position where you can pursue women is a privilege Cold approaching. I'm not sure people realize just how much this doesn't work. It comes off as extremely desperate, It is basically saying to the woman you're approaching "I don't have my own social group or community so I have to approach a complete stranger". I’ve been saying this for months and men attack for this one. Wildly. I wonder if a man saying it will get the same vicious feedback.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:45 PM
3	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? I know, everyone likes fries. I’m hideous and irredeemable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 05:21 PM
13	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? What a peculiar thing to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 04:44 PM
3	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? Disruptive, then. Disrupting the peace.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 03:57 PM
4	Men want what they would never allow to women but now they also want physical attractiveness Yeah... same thing men always desired. It's inequitable, skewed, and doesn't feel right. It's equitable and fair. Imagine if men expected women to be young, fertile, attractive, with a curvaceous figure, and also to have more money than them and to cover all the dating expenses. Men have always expected women to be young, fertile, attractive with a curvaceous figure and also wreck their youth and beauty via pregnancy, childbirth, nursing, and the st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 03:25 PM
4	Men want what they would never allow to women Actually, it's just that the standards women have for what's considered an attractive man are much higher than they used to be. This is the natural state in spaces where women are no longer fully dependent on men for money. Men used to choose the most attractive woman they could pull, too. Women are simply doing the same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 03:15 PM
1	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? A religion is only as good as it's members.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 02:43 PM
13	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? It doesn't. Chemistry just is. It's part rapport, part mutual physical attraction. Women are aware men are frustrated by the nebulous term, but it boils down to "I like his ideas and attitude, and the idea of his tongue in my mouth is pleasing". Seems as though men can have this thought by simply checking out a woman's face and body from across the room. But women actually need to know a man before feeling excited about touching him. And it's not on purpose and women would sure like it if dating…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 02:37 PM
1	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? The only time I see your posts is when you charge in to claim that no one knows anyone about the red pill. You know a good summary of it is right over there --->	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 02:23 PM
1	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? Oh look, the Scotsman is back to inform everyone that he's the only true red piller/pick up artist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 02:14 PM
8	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? Amazing stories, but the image of a guy fainting over sleeping snakes is next level hilarious. He claimed he hiked 20+ miles every month, so it didn't register that he'd fainted out of fear. I thought he'd had a stroke or something, had never seen anyone in a dead faint. He crumpled like a cartoon and I had a hard time waking him up. And the snakes were brumating (snake hibernation) so they were completely cold and still. I had to pick each of them up and stuffed the little one in the pocket on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:56 PM
2	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth No one lied. Ugly men date and marry ugly women all the time. Have you ever been inside a Walmart? A public beach? Humans of all kinds get together and even the least physically attractive person can succeed with other redeeming qualities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 01:01 PM
5	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? The creators of rage bait deliberately create disinformation because they know that will get likes, interactions, views, and shares. Belief in this nonsense is funneling money to very bad people who take advantage of vulnerable, easily angered men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:55 PM
3	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? No, you’d be asking a pilot how to fly a plane. Which isn’t as good as actually doing something, but it’s far better than asking other socially inept and inexperienced men what women want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:51 PM
2	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? That is patently false. TRP and PUA is an elaborate game of telephone designed by grifters who profit from gullible, vulnerable men. There is nothing of value to be learned, both are hate groups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:49 PM
5	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? Rationalizing it just makes it sound crazier, because the same men wouldn’t ask non-pilots how to fly an airplane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:47 PM
3	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? But the same man knows he cannot fly a plane by simply reading what non-pilots write about flying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:31 PM
6	Why is it that the men here who fail think they are the most enlightened? The men who claim to know the most about “female nature” simultaneously admit they have no female friends and or girlfriends with zero trace of irony. But I don’t believe they are legitimately brainwashed by red pill and PUA content, I believe they are just frustrated and lashing out at women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:23 PM
–	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth And somehow men translated that to “Women prefer ugly men”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 12:17 PM
–	Men want what they would never allow to women It’s cute when men believe they are the center of the universe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:40 AM
6	Men want what they would never allow to women Women don’t give a flying fuck if men approve of our hobbies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:37 AM
5	Men want what they would never allow to women Women don’t think like this and don’t use makeup or fashion as a dating strategy. It’s play, a hobby. Something women do largely for fun and despite what men want to believe, women exist even when men aren’t appraising them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:23 AM
5	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? Men get a 90-95% orgasm rate. Why would we agree to anything less? My friends and I have joked about getting up and walking to the kitchen immediately after orgasm and sitting down to eat without getting a male partner off. You know, like they do. It would be a fun social experiment, except it would be met with violence. For real, though, if I’m going to have sex, I’m going to make sure it’s the best my partner has ever had. Can’t imagine being okay with leaving a partner unsatisfied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:21 AM
12	Men want what they would never allow to women They literally only have to put down the fork; Why would women bother to diet since (checks notes) 80% of men are unattractive anyway?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:04 AM
8	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? I wasn’t responding to you, I was responding to the man who is incredulous that a woman might also like to enjoy sex. Now there are three men who expressed disdain or surprise that a woman, too, wants to enjoy sex. I’m easing back into dating after a very long and pleasant break and I suppose I need to work this into an early conversation because frankly I had no idea there were men in this world who feel that a woman’s orgasm is a big ask.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 11:01 AM
3	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? like one guy was really into celeb impersonations Whoa that’s an awkward thing to whip out on a first date. Did he do that in front of other people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:57 AM
4	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? This is my favorite in the whole thread 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:55 AM
8	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? That’s a fetish. Small penis humiliation or something like that. It might be common, I’ve had two different men send me unsolicited photos asking for a critique. The only criticism I could offer is “don’t send unsolicited dick pics, freak”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:54 AM
23	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? He was furious that I don’t care for French fries and launched into a loud tirade about women and their eating habits. Another diner laid twenty on the table and said “Girl, run.” A man who claimed to love hiking showed up for an hour long hike on a new trail with brand new Timberlands, a backpack with a frame (that’s for overnight hikes and a tent) and a goddamned compass. Trainers and a water bottle were adequate for the clean, wide trail that many classmates completed wearing flip flops. A ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:47 AM
6	What are reasons a first date didn't work out for you? You cannot be serious. Obviously foreplay is standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:32 AM
1	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Yet somehow some men assumed that women actually prefer ugly men so long as they are nice. Where did men get that idea?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:27 AM
1	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Obviously no woman is actually going to own up to that. I can point you to several interviews where they interview women asking what they like and none ever say a tall, confident, rich guy. It's always some variation of nice. How many women have you heard “I just want an ugly nice guy”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:26 AM
0	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Is that why TRP men are such woman hating assholes? Because they think that pretending to be a jerk is going to help them get laid?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:25 AM
0	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth You think boys say “mom, how do I get laid”? Because that scenario I never happened, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:24 AM
7	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Do you want to date a blond woman willing to marry a violent prisoner? Is that an option men prefer? Or do they just bring up extreme outliers in an attempt to indict women for failing to notice the “nice guys”?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:19 AM
–	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Tons of men’s experience when growing up and being told how to attract a woman No one is telling boys “how to attract a woman” Be presentable Get a good job Be nice Standard advice on how to be an adult. a lot of important conversations for many people were never had, context and nuance never explored and it’s had a severe impact on the lives of many. No one, absolutely no one was informed how to attract the opposite sex and get laid. Yet a world with 8 billion people demonstrates that people fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:16 AM
5	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Those things confirmed what we were told and even when the "brave" and "handsome" stuff did come up, we were told we were those things anyway, by well-meaning parents, grandparents, aunts/uncles, doctors/nurses, and even people who (to us, even if our relatives knew them) were strangers. Sounds like boys grew up with a cushy life, that must have been nice. Meanwhile girls were told “close your legs, sit like a lady, clean up after your brothers”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:11 AM
0	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth The topic is the OP you clearly did not read.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 10:07 AM
6	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth One admittedly mentally ill woman pretended to be a man for a book. Her experiment was not scientific and has not been replicated by the thousands of trans men who fly under the radar and conduct successful, fulfilling lives. Using the admittedly mentally ill Vincent is the absolute height of intellectual dishonesty when there are trans men all over the world succeeding and living fulfilling lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:58 AM
4	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth You have the benefit of being considered an inoffensive, benign, perhaps even fragile treasure to be protected and listened to and loved for what you are. Wow. What privilege permits you to assume that girls grow up surrounded by a cloud of kindness? Girls grow up with the expectation that boys are going to grab their bodies, snap their bra straps, yank their pigtails, and generally abuse them physically and sexually throughout their lives because boys will be boys and men have needs. Girls grow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:55 AM
7	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth What are you proposing children and teenagers take from observing that the abrasive, obnoxious, bullying assholes tend to get the girls? You just admitted that boys do know that being nice isn’t sufficient.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:50 AM
-1	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Have you heard women say “I just want an ugly man, a complete goblin who is nice and caring?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:49 AM
0	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth The dozen dick pics in my DMs inform me that men lack morals and accountability entirely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:48 AM
4	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Men lied to themselves. Unattractive boys latch on to attractive girls beginning in elementary school and get the idea they have a chance with the head cheerleader, then spend months to years obsessing over girl after girl who has never once noticed they are alive. Then they reach adulthood and want someone to blame for their lack of romantic or sexual success. It’s them. The blame belongs solely to men, who lead a fantasy life like Don Quixote instead of behaving with reason and logic. Frankly …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:47 AM
1	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth I don’t believe you’ve roamed the earth for 18 years asking women for advice on how to get laid. That never happened.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:41 AM
-1	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Show us the social contract which requires women to facilitate getting laid for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:39 AM
5	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth We’ve all read the OP and a dozen posts exactly like it each week. It’s wild that men refuse to take accountability for themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:34 AM
0	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD This doesn’t sound healthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:33 AM
1	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. Attractive ≠ attracted to, and “stoicism” looks exactly like a lack of social skills. Women will never be as interested in strangers as strangers are them. This is what people who lack a social circle don’t get. This is what people who think annoying 99 strangers for a single phone number refuse to accept. Some rando in a store is rarely an option. But he is a nuisance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 09:32 AM
9	Men would have been more accountable had they actually been told the truth Here's the thing. Men claim to have non-working eyes and don't see that girls in school and women in college gravitate towards physically attractive men, so I guess expecting them to read what women say plainly is too much to ask. Men flatly, boldly refuse to listen to women and claim "Men don't listen to what women say, they watch what women do", but they obviously don't watch what women do, because they ain't seeing the head cheerleader with a bridge troll, are they? So do men believe women or…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 10:30 PM
1	Women do want to be apprached. I've seen your claims before, and you say "cold approached". What else did you try? Do you have genuine female friends to love and who love you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 10:10 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I actually like strangers and love men. I can't imagine life without my male friends. So I'll keep my pleasant expression even if a fringe group of men misinterpret friendliness as an invitation. But I promise you that the most socially, romantically, and sexually successful men actually enjoy people, like to have fun, can make jokes and laugh at jokes, and can flirt without heavy expectation. I highly recommend relaxing and learning a genuine, heartfelt grin.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 10:09 PM
2	There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions? Giving people a ride in the 1970s is a little different from letting twitchy, sketchy, scam artists or carjackers in the car today.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:48 PM
4	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. I agree he has multiple redeeming qualities which make him a catch. I responded to the claim that he's "he definitely is above average in looks"	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:39 PM
1	Women do want to be apprached. What would YOU have us do? Cultivate and maintain a social circle and make platonic friends with women so you see them as human beings with their own goals and agendas instead of a means to an end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:38 PM
3	Women do want to be apprached. Can die knowing I did my best. I'm sure that's what Lance Armstrong, Mark McGwire, and Tonya Harding said about their contributions to their respective sports.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:22 PM
7	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. He's not an average man, he's a motivated self-starter and social media influencer who thus far has done more good than bad. But he's average looking for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:20 PM
2	Women do want to be apprached. The definition of doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results is called...? If that analogy is unfamiliar, if someone told you they tried over and over to learn to drive by talking to people who drive, would you say they tried in earnest?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:19 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I have a resting smiling face which means lone men often regard me as an opportunity rather than a person. But the difference between a good and bad attempt at flirting is divided starkly between his attitude and visage. Intense, brooding focus is off-putting-to-startling. A relaxed, non-directional friendly vibe is welcome in almost any environment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:04 PM
2	Women do want to be apprached. This sounds mental, frankly. What's good about annoying one hundred women and getting rejected over and over? It's suicide fuel for some men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 07:00 PM
–	Ladies, do you think it’s a red flag if a man grew up with an absent father figure? Yes. Deadbeat dads ruin lives and taxpayers, teachers, and social workers are forced to cover for their absences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:59 PM
7	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Everyone is sick of “rules 1 & 2” because those men aren’t approaching ugly women, are they? Yet they get upset and pretend to be offended when women reject them via the very same criteria they used to approach.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:47 PM
4	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. They're literally called misogynists just for not wanting a woman who is used. No, they are literally called choosing beggars. Men aren’t required by any social convention to date women with differing values. Not a darn thing stopping men from finding partners in high school or in church.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:45 PM
1	Women do want to be apprached. It's basically the IRL version of instagram. Except with more stalking and real and present danger. Probably better for the cardio and heart rate than the “ego boost”. There are one thousand better ways to meet people than to corner strangers and demand their attention.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:44 PM
4	Women do want to be apprached. The very worst of humanity is revealed by the PUA grifters who tell men “Rejection builds character, keep grinding”. Mods on the seduction sub shut it down quickly, but most men are emotional destroyed by constant rejection and emotionally betrayed by men who tell them to keep doing it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:40 PM
4	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD An easy, relaxed posture and friendly grin adds several points to anyone’s attractiveness. Brooding, intense scrutiny and judgmental looks subtract the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 06:38 PM
1	There's a "What are your most controversial or unpopular dating rule/opinion" thread over at r/AskWomenOver30. What are your controversial opinion about their controversial opinions? "Alarm bells and gut instinct" this is literally animal level thinking based on neurosis. Men are free to ignore their alarm bells and gut instincts and drink whatever a prostitute hands them. Men are also free to give rides to strangers and to eat the rice left out overnight if they feel making prudent decisions about their safety makes them appear "neurotic". "No republican" Yet you vote for the plutocratic corporate worshiping democrat party. Boeing, Northrop Gruman, and Lockheed Martin calle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 05:55 PM
1	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men Both men and women change when faced with life's stressors. People are on their best behavior until they lock down a mate. When children, financial problems, work stress, illness, and substance abuse are added to a couple, partners can change radically from who they presented in the beginning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 05:44 PM
8	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Right? If he were in Hollywood he'd be typecast as the office's IT nerd. I mean, he's average, for sure, not below, and has accomplished a lot of terrific things, but he isn't good looking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 05:36 PM
8	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. he definitely is above average in looks I'd never notice this man on any street in North America unless we interacted for some reason. (Yes, he's self-made and has done some incredibly kind things for others)	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 04:45 PM
3	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. No one would believe it. I doubt anyone believed it then...	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 04:01 PM
3	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Women taking care of their adult husbands as though they are giant children for the duration of their relationship is "giving everything", as is birthing, nursing, and raising their children. But men don't count all that care, do they, because they feel entitled to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 03:14 PM
7	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Buying gifts for women because men want something in return isn't romance, it's bartering.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 03:09 PM
7	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Yes, and each creation of those 8 billion was a Herculean effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 03:07 PM
-1	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Women don't have to offer men gifts in exchange for validation and sexual favors, do they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 03:06 PM
4	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Don't posts tik toks of real women's laundry lists of requirements, they aren't valid!" I asked if I'd missed a meme or something, I don't know what specifically OP refers to. Posts a clip from a 30 year old sitcom. I think it's forty years old? Regardless I got stuck watching the entire show last spring and figured the George character resonates with some of the men here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 03:05 PM
6	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. except for that person's affection That's the very definition of getting something, which is why men engage in romantic contracts. If they wanted nothing for it, men would give flowers away to strangers, wouldn't they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 02:53 PM
8	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. Growing an entire human inside her body and surviving an 8 pound infant's violent exit seems Herculean, especially when compared to a man who remembers to buy roses on Valentine's day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 02:39 PM
8	The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them. I don't personally know any women with a laundry list of requirements, where are you seeing that? Did I miss a TikTok or social media trend? If people are being nasty it's because his pretense is obnoxious. There is a 30 year old Seinfeld clip which illustrates choosing beggars nicely, from an episode called "The Fix Up". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16nYW1T0Wbs (Regarding the video, what the fuck is with foot guys, anyway? Why must they insert their fetish in every effing conversation?)	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 02:17 PM
-1	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men Most of the disenfranchised men on TRP believe women are lesser, anyway, and will absolutely turn violent given the opportunity. I'd much rather take my chances with a man who actually seeks and enjoys the company of women over a man who spends all his free time despising women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:52 PM
3	The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense. Y'all know women also have access to the internet and can read and watch the same content as men, right? TRP isn't some super-secret society hidden from women or the general public.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:41 PM
3	Women don’t and never need to be accountable for their actions Accountable for what, the entire male agenda, including that which runs counter to our own?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:38 PM
1	Women don’t and never need to be accountable for their actions because you as a man did not maintain frame. I've never cheated in my life but if a man pretended to behave as a mid century authoritarian father I'd slip out and fuck the next 19 year old on a skateboard I could find.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:37 PM
6	Women don’t and never need to be accountable for their actions that also means punishing her for her bad behaviour leading her and helping her become the person he wants her to be and treat him by having strong boundaries demonstrating that he has self-respect and knowing how to understand women and their psychology. Misogynists really do regard women as sexy children, don't they.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:34 PM
4	There is no reason prostitution should be illegal at this point. This is horrific.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:24 PM
2	The argument that most black pill/red pill/Puas make dating too complicated, because all you gotta do is "Treat women like their human" is a lazy defense. There is a spectrum of men who treat women as targets and spend all their time hunting a woman who will go out with them, and that spectrum ranges from awkward and obvious to desperate and angry. Of course those men are going to fail because their intense focus is off-putting. And when those men attempt cheat codes and hacks on human beings which do not work, those men are going to react angrily to rejection because their tips didn't result in a win. I don't know why men allow themselves to be s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 01:22 PM
1	CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept. Attractive men, obviously to any and every sighted person. Why in the world do so many TRP men claim women are attracted to ugly men? Explain it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/11/23 12:27 AM
1	CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept. I’m telling you plainly that men pretend they can’t see with their own eyes that girls then women prefer men they are attracted to. When those men get angry about their lack of success, they reliably claim that the men women prefer are “bad, evil, manipulative abusers and cheaters” which is utter horseshit. The narrative disaffected men choose always paints them in a good light and popular men in a bad light. Nothing more untrustworthy than sour grapes, but that’s where frustrated men invariably…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:52 PM
1	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men Agreed, but a relationship opens more opportunities to those men to harm you, Great, fantastic, solid argument for women to avoid relationships with men they already know hate and resent women because they feel marginalized and embittered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:41 PM
3	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men How often do men choose to drive within five miles of their homes and risk car accidents at a higher rate? Do you know of some method to somehow avoid the five miles within a home?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:03 PM
0	CMV „As a Man you should never be emotional/weak infront off you‘re Girl“ is one of the most brutal reality’s that a Man has to accept. It’s still a debate because men who are unsuccessful claim that successful men are all jerks, all bullies, all abusers. Men don’t believe women. Men believe whatever narrative preserves their dignity and sense of self-importance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 09:51 PM
0	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men Most men take rejection well, or just get depressed about it, or rant and rave here. Men do not take rejection well, they send wild ass screeds chastising women for passing up “good” men. They post long rants about the “friendzone” and some of them freak the hell out and are caught on camera and posted. I don’t know a single women who has ever had a man simply say “Cool, have a great day” and walked away from an unwanted proposition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 09:27 PM
1	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves Define toxic femininity, because men heavily endorse it here, where men insist they should make the first move and pay for dates because women who make the first move are “desperate” and women who pay are “showing off a career or salary men don’t care about”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 09:24 PM
2	Do women's taste in men change when they are on birth control ? What point? You’re claiming that birth control somehow hampers sex drives when the freedom from pregnancy kicked off the sexual revolution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 07:44 PM
9	Ladies, do you think it’s a red flag if a man grew up with an absent father figure? She stayed, seems like men ought to blame the absent parent if they must absolve themselves of any responsibility for their own success or lack of.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:39 PM
7	Ladies, do you think it’s a red flag if a man grew up with an absent father figure? I didn’t say that, but blaming their mothers for their lack of success with dating and life in general is very common on this sub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:34 PM
3	Do women's taste in men change when they are on birth control ? If you believe this, then you must also believe the sexual revolution which was kicked off by easily available birth control never happened. Do you think that was a conspiracy of some sort?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:26 PM
4	CMV : Men put women on a pedestal depending on their relationship with adult women as a child Conservatives do not admit their family had flaws, they are the biggest proponents of the Golden Age fallacy in which “everything was better in the old days”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:24 PM
7	Ladies, do you think it’s a red flag if a man grew up with an absent father figure? Nope. But I do find men blaming the active parent for their dating difficulties or failure to launch is the biggest red flag.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:21 PM
3	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men He has the stats wrong, anyway. He’s confusing the FBI’s 50 “active shooter events” instead of the mass shootings. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2022-042623.pdf/view	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:11 PM
4	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men You’re confusing “active shooter” incidents with mass shootings. This is the FBI site. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2022-042623.pdf/view	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 06:06 PM
5	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men The second paragraph in the article: “ Mass shootings are defined as an incident in which four or more victims are shot or killed” There are some incidents they have cited that the FBI hasn’t even been able to confirm to have happened at all. I don’t believe in conspiracy theories. Facts over feelings, please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 05:55 PM
1	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves Most men are NOT given automatic respect from other men lol. You think a woman and a man walking into an auto parts store, a car dealership, a Best Buy/Apple store, or any home improvement store get the same respect? Horseshit. Men get beaten, robbed, shot at, stabbed, bullied, insulted, and even killed by other men all the time. You sure you want to discuss the reasons for this? I also believe you're overstating the awfulness of the female experience. I didn’t say it was awful. But some situati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 05:54 PM
-2	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men https://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shootings-days-2023-database-shows/story?id=96609874	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 05:48 PM
1	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men Highly recommend an Intro to Statistics course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 05:03 PM
1	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men That’s true, but the statistics don’t lie. No, but men drawing erroneous conclusions from simple stats certainly do. Women are very unlikely to be attacked by a stranger. Because women take precautions and are around strangers less often than with domestic partners. Also, mass shootings are rare as well. Mass shootings occur daily in the US, there has already been 500 this year alone. more likely to be struck by lighting Lightning strikes are indeed uncommon, but I don’t believe you’d recommend …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 05:00 PM
3	Men are not more volent for not getting sex. Most volence against women come from men they are partnered with, not from virgins men That’s because of proximity and opportunity. You know how most car accidents happen within five miles of the home because that’s where you are more often? Because of proximity. Same thing with domestic violence. The reason partners are more likely to abuse is because they spend far more time with them and share the same stressors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 04:54 PM
1	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves I guess the frustrating aspect of all of this is that women on Reddit tend to overlook how powerless or mundane the average man is. Power is relative, isn’t it? Women are jealous of the power the average man has to get automatic respect from men. The average man can go for a walk anytime day or night without fear of being stalked, followed, hassled, catcalled, or harassed. The average man can break down on the side of the road and have no fear of steange men stopping to “help”. The average man c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 03:06 PM
–	Do guys here seriously never get approached by women at all? Not even indicators of interest? And if they do go out, they don’t go out to relax and have fun and socialize. They go out to hunt, which is completely off putting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 11:10 AM
2	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. A 1% rate of return means it does not work unless the plan is to irritate 99 women and humiliate vulnerable men 99 times for one phone number which probably won’t lead anywhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 10:46 AM
5	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves Men haven’t been terrific to women historically or presently. I’m surprised that men are surprised women pushed back after a couple thousand years of subjugation. I don’t enjoy reading certain subs, so I don’t go there. But men consistently go there and there is a new thread every day or two crying about 2X. Are men really emotionally hurt or momentarily insulted and brigading the sub?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 01:43 AM
7	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves I mean… why would there be? Women aren’t furious if men aren’t interested	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/23 12:20 AM
6	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves This basically excludes the majority among good men who would make good marital partners. Since marriage presumes sex. Men who would let an adult woman and potentially the mother of their other children die due to an ectopic pregnancy, a molar pregnancy, a miscarriage because they are “against abortion” are not “good husbands”. Simply women encouraging the OP to lie or omit information relevant to their own self-respect in order to start a relationship. I have no idea what this means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 11:02 PM
0	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves Why is that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 10:41 PM
8	Men shouldn't stop saying "not all men" until more women are willing to say it themselves Why are men so fascinated with the Two X sub? It’s a support sub, it’s not a snapshot of how women regard men, it’s how women who need help and advice with medical, social, emotional, dating and relationship support. Hey OP, 2X isn’t all women	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 09:58 PM
-1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? Most men do approach women who are interested. The problem is the men who don’t know or don’t care but feel they have some implied social right to a female audience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 05:17 PM
-1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? That’s the dynamics certain men expect women to go along with, women didn’t unanimously sign up to be propositioned by men they aren’t interested in. That’s a choice men make whether it’s wanted or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 05:14 PM
–	Why don’t the men who constantly complain about women dating based only on appearance just go after better women? There are very few women that put EQ significantly EQ is on the top of the list for every woman in my sphere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 01:56 PM
2	If the majority of men get no matches on dating apps, how do the majority of couples meet using apps, and how to the majority of people still get married? Is he interested in sex and does he expect enthusiastic or satisfying sex? If not and she's free to avoid sex with a husband she isn't attracted to, this sounds good. But how many asexual couples are there, really?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 01:38 PM
0	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. Men start bar fights and brawls with strangers at sporting events, what’s your point?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 09:12 AM
1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? I didn’t say you hate everyone, but if you don’t like people, you desire a women to provide sex and comfort. That means her desires, her needs and her humanity mean nothing to you. She’s a means to an end. No woman want that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 09:06 AM
4	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? never ever some total stranger approached us to join us. And if they did do that, they would probably not succeed. Then how in the hell could you expect to be welcomed by a women you don’t know? If you don’t want to be bothered by strangers, why in the world would she?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:57 AM
1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? I know, but that sure is a hard sell. “I don’t like people or socializing but I’d like sex and a woman to keep my home and take care of me, you in?” That’s a hard no for most women. And I despise pick up precisely because it’s men play-acting as someone they are certainly not, it’s annoying and deceptive. But someone doesn’t have to be an extrovert to practice a little pleasant small talk. It’s practice for treating others like human beings instead of a means to an end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:54 AM
0	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. Men do this because even in the most progressive societies women My experience differs, but I agree a concurrent thread shows women prefer for men to make the first move, which sounds as though women cling to traditional roles. But did you read that thread? One female poster reminds men how often men admit they are attracted to more women and will settle for almost any woman? There is no denying men’s threshold for sexual contact is far lower. Those women have a real concern about being used for…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:49 AM
1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? There is a difference, main one being women aren’t seen as a threat or a nuisance. But men do it easily, too, when they are simply relaxed and friendly instead of exclusively pursuing women they find physically attractive. But anyone who actually likes people can learn to relax, say something pleasant and keep moving. People appreciate passing friendliness. Lingering expectation not so much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:28 AM
2	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? The spaces where alcohol is served are where socializing is expected. No one has to drink, every bar offers seltzer water with fruit or virgin drinks. Ask for a Coke in an old fashioned glass, bartenders know what that means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 02:27 AM
1	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? Do it everywhere, and practice a relaxed grin. Make pleasant noises at shoppers and workers and passersby. Compliments-on-the-fly are great practice. Make brief eye contact as you pass someone and say “Great shirt!” Or on a beautiful day grin and say “This weather’s the pits”, or on a gloomy day say “This is napping weather” or “Ima go find some puddles to jump in”. But don’t stick around and wait for a reaction or try to wrangle a conversation out of it. Make a pleasant or corny comment and kee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 02:23 AM
3	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? Big misconception here that one’s social circle is also their dating pool. It happens occasionally, but generally a group of friends is who you hang out in social spaces with, to facilitate talking to others. One or two friends is enough to go out to social venues with. Strangers are more receptive to small talk if the other person has their own friends, too, because they can tell he or she isn’t going to latch on and overstay their welcome. I’m not in my city much this year but I keep up with o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 01:19 AM
10	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? Yeah I’ve moved four times with work, two times with school and travel to… 8? Large cities and have friends in all those spaces. People don’t even have to like you that much to have an excuse to go do something fun. “Hey, I’m stuck here for two weeks, I’ll buy you a drink/sandwich/pay for bowling/golf if you’ll take me somewhere fun”. Because they want to go out, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 01:07 AM
4	Unpopular Opinion: Men don't need women more than vice versa I didn’t assume the previous poster was justifying them, but the comment certainly excused the mentally ill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 11:58 PM
3	Political Beliefs? All three of you share a common African ancestor, so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 11:48 PM
0	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. A lack of formal education is not a flex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 11:32 PM
9	Unpopular Opinion: Men don't need women more than vice versa The Atlanta shooter had been paying for sex, he still murdered 8 women. Robert Card had an ex wife, he massacred 18 and injured 13.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 10:21 PM
13	Unpopular Opinion: Men don't need women more than vice versa I don’t believe the shooter’s mental state in any way comforts the victims or victims’ families. Besides, a man obtaining weapons and ammunition is entirely responsible for his premeditated actions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 10:20 PM
3	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men I doubt very much men are confessing they freaked out and cussed or spit on women who rejected them. That’s why men insist on approaching with no witnesses around, so they can get away with horrid behavior with no repercussions. Also the reason women have been getting out their phones for the past few years. When men stop reacting aggressively and violently to rejection, there won’t be any more videos of meltdowns or women scrambling to escape unwanted solicitations. Men who approach in social v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 09:40 PM
2	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men How often have you had to reject men? Keep using crazies as an example, All strangers who want something others don’t want to give are potential “crazies”. The very fact that men encourage one another to approach when no one else is around is evidence they are untrustworthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 09:32 PM
4	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men I’ve seen women get shoved and spit on. I watched a man screeched at a fifteen year old girl as she was escorted to her car by Target security. I’ve been shoved into my truck and had to go to the police station to file a report so my bruises could be photographed, and I didn’t even hear what the man was saying before he attacked because I was running in headphones. TikTok and Facebook are filled with videos of men freaking the fuck out and screeching when rejected. I don’t know what men get out …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 09:18 PM
2	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men The normalization of joking about sexual abuse of boys by “hot teachers” comes from men, not women. Feel free to visit any thread in AskMen or AskReddit about sex with authority figures and fully half will be cracking jokes or expressing envy. It is disgusting, but making light of sexual abuse of boys isn’t something women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 09:15 PM
0	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men They shouldn’t. But as long as men laugh it off and pat their sons on the back for “getting a real education” or whatever, it isn’t going to change. All abuse by authority figures is equally horrendous, even when teenaged boys and their dads and uncles laugh it off. This is one of those issues MRAs could be focusing on changing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 09:09 PM
3	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? The men in this sub lean conservative to rabidly far right. Most don’t want anything to do with women who ignore old fashioned rules of behavior. But those men do want women to play along with the game and facilitate picking them up. So being direct as a woman: bad. Playing along and pretending to be flattered by unsolicited pick up attempts: good. But that phony scenario isn’t how women who ask men out behave. Women don’t follow strange men all over stores or chase them out to parking lots begg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 08:39 PM
0	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? Did you write all that for me? Who believes that women can and should benefit by making the first move? And I said as much in this thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:59 PM
3	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? I expect people to recognize the difference between social and non social venues, to utilize their social sphere to facilitate meeting new people, to recognize the difference between interest and a lack thereof, for people to understand the importance of social proof, and most of all, to not make up asinine reasons to obligate a woman’s attention. Like the rest of us do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:48 PM
1	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? Why should women be searching for long term partners?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:37 PM
3	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? Agree for the most part, but women don’t “hunt”, they vet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:05 PM
1	Women of reddit. What is your opinion on women making more of the first moves? I’m for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:04 PM
1	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men Right. So what’s the ratio of sex abuse per gender? Do male teachers or female teachers offend at a higher rate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 07:02 PM
3	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. I didn’t say they were dangerous predators, did I? I said that pretending to be someone else in order to gain a woman’s affection and trust is predatory. Do men like it when women pretend to be someone they are not? Maybe they don’t mind, but I have it on good authority that men don’t like women who lie or omit their past sexual experiences. But if men believe it’s okay to pretend to be someone else in order to lock down a relationship, then it’s okay for women to misrepresent themselves, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 06:14 PM
2	Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than men How many male teachers abuse their students, and what’s the ratio of male to female teachers? Just askin’	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 06:00 PM
2	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I don’t mind showing a lame man how to use the Google, but I sure af won’t be giving him my number.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 05:57 PM
1	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. This is why it’s important to cultivate and maintain a social sphere, so a man has friends to go to social venues and do social things with. A lone man is a wildcard, no accountability for his behavior to anyone. Most women spend their lives in service of some or many family members. Child care, elder care, husband care. Unless a woman is also a loner and introvert, a lone man with no friends is going to use her up. He will expect her to serve as his sole support, sole source of companionship an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 05:56 PM
6	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. One summer I took a cool Linguistics course and the professor was writing a book about how slang shapes our beliefs and perceptions. We all ran social experiments for her book in a collaboration with the sociology lab. It was eye opening. The way men use “shoot your shot” so casually belies the entitlement that phrase implies. There was no evolution between “talking to girls” and “women ought to hold still and allow men to proposition them because it takes guts to approach”. Men genuinely believ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 05:43 PM
1	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men A man incapable of utilizing a map app on his phone lacks the competence to date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 05:14 PM
3	Politics defines modern dating. Belted polos with pleated khakis are not associated with masculinity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 04:42 PM
7	Politics defines modern dating. Far right conservatives are not athletic, they are indoor computer science majors and accountants who glean their political ideologies from Facebook memes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 04:41 PM
6	Politics defines modern dating. Masculine men with the ability to think critically are not hard to find, and conservative men with far right beliefs are easy to spot and avoid. They have a look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 04:39 PM
4	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. Making people uncomfortable is fine. No it isn’t.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 03:40 PM
8	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. Yes, all people prefer romantic and sexual attention from people they find attractive rather than people they don’t find attractive. This isn’t noteworthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 03:38 PM
1	The men here fail because they refuse to take any risks I don’t do them all at once, most are available seasonally. Softball just ended, I run and play golf year round, but races and tournaments are only in warmer months. Indoor volleyball starts next week. I really have no idea what the other poster is thinking, there are coed sports available everywhere. The entire purpose of coed sports and beer league ball is socializing. I’ve dated a little this summer but I’m single by choice because I’m traveling with work through the end of the year and I’m a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 03:24 PM
2	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I’m cool with any organic conversation or even lame ass pick up attempts in social venues, that’s what bars, clubs, and events are for. I just really can’t stand the loners stalking women in non social venues and pretending to be lost or whatever. Knowing they set out to annoy 99 women for one phone number is just irritating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 02:22 PM
1	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men 20 years ago I was seven, fewer men trying to pick me up then. How old were you twenty years ago?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 02:20 PM
1	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Men over forty five definitely show interest in me, but it’s men my own age who make up awkward reasons to talk at women. I’m not describing organic small talk, I’m talking specifically about men who think they are pick up artists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 02:03 PM
6	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Is there a legit reason they have to lie and pretending to be helpless instead of talking like normal people?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 01:44 PM
2	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I like flirting, I don’t like men pretending to be stupid or helpless because they want to take advantage of women’s generally helpful nature. Definitely not going out with a man whose first communication is an awkward lie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 01:43 PM
6	Approaching = always creepy? Depends on who says it. If you are a guy who specifically goes out to a place to "pick up" women. I've seen men jump out of the shadows or chase after a woman simply walking down the street to stop her. I've seen men lurk around parks and cafes, just to jump out to accost a woman who is sitting by herself somewhere. That's inherently creepy. You just described every space women might go to run errands. Loners everywhere with their heads on a swivel, stalking women until they are sure no other man is around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 01:00 PM
1	The men here fail because they refuse to take any risks I run, cycle, play golf, softball, volleyball, pickle ball, tennis, basketball, and bowl on co-Ed teams which are available in every city and town. There are zero same sex social sports in any city I’ve ever lived, no idea what you are referring to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/23 12:55 PM
2	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I like humans. I don’t like entitled humans. No one does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 08:50 PM
6	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? I was raised without any religious traditions and even I realize how utterly ridiculous the comparison of original sin is. Do either of you even know any women? Born of women? Have any idea what monstrous social pressure women both into Abrahamic cultures experience from the age of 3?? “She’s going to break hearts” “Close your legs and sit up” “Don’t show your underpants unless you want to tempt men who sexually assault you” “He’s only pulling your hair, snapping your bra strap, and groping your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 08:31 PM
0	Is aggression and things like being disagreeable, maybe even being a bully, a turn on for women? and very violent and aggressive Based on what? If he’s violent, doesn’t that means he’s in prison, which means you, too are in prison?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 07:57 PM
3	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men So how in the hell would anyone understand that another driver gesturing wildly has good intentions?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 07:53 PM
4	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I don't think that, and I doubt she did, either, but probably figured it was a road rage thing and she was safer to ignore it, since men are prone to road rage. Why did you even bring this up here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:28 PM
–	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? Right. You're a brand new user.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:15 PM
2	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men No idea why you've internalized this as a rejection. Men in cars who gesture wildly to other cars are generally violent road raging wildcards, why in the world would you expect anything else?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:14 PM
–	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? Who even are you? Your username is 13 days old? Are we supposed to know who you are? I'm assuming you've been banned under a diff username, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 06:00 PM
10	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men So? Women are weaker, so it makes sense they are also victims of violence. The surprise is how close the attacks are. Are you serious right now? Women being at least 2x weaker than men would make people think they are as much victims of crime. Women would be, if women were as reckless and stupid as men, and if women had the utter lack of household responsibility men enjoy. I'm going to pretend you actually don't understand this and assume you forgot that women spend years of their lives pregnant…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:57 PM
3	The men here fail because they refuse to take any risks The gym is not a social activity, it's a paid subscription.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:50 PM
16	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Yeppers, there's a reason for that. Men are more likely to engage in substance abuse. Men are less likely to be pregnant, nursing, or solely responsible for the care of children and infirm family members, which means men have the freedom to leave their home and move about the city freely. Men are far more likely to participate in gang activity. Men are far more likely to frequent high tension, high crime venues such as casinos, sporting events, bars, and fights. Men are less likely to take preca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:42 PM
13	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I don't know what you mean by "again", but more women are harmed or killed when leaving or rejecting men than by utter strangers. I don't even know why you asked for commonly known stats. https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/UN_BriefFem_251121.pdf	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:27 PM
5	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men All people have a facade to meet people initially. The fuck?? No they don't, PUA horseshit is poisoning men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:22 PM
15	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men r/whenwomenrefuse 17 year old Riley murdered after rejecting a coworker: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adeonibada/walgreens-employee-killed-coworker-rejected Gracie Spinks killed by coworker after turning him down June 18, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-67263809	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:22 PM
4	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Women can't safely say no to honest men, women sure as fuck can't safely say no to men who are already proven liars.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:14 PM
7	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? You get cussed out by women as a part of your daily life? That's ridiculous. There is no corner of the world in which it is safe for women to cuss out men or even fight back against unwanted advances.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:10 PM
4	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men It's not a big deal for honest men who women are receptive to. It's a nuisance when it comes from dishonest men who women have shown zero interest in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:06 PM
8	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? I'm aware men are the majority here and enjoy the privilege of saying abhorrently hateful things to women with zero repercussions. Interacting with you will get me banned because it just reflexively brings up the instinct in me to just straight up cuss you out. When women do fight back, men lose their goddamn minds and reliably threaten violence. I've yet to see a single woman threaten violence, social uprisings, or any other startling threats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 05:02 PM
6	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? No idea who you are and when we've ever interacted before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:54 PM
24	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men They are "new in town, can you recommend some fun things to do". They "can't find the nearest Starbucks". They "don't know what wine pairs with fish" They "don't know how to cook eggplant" They "don't know the bus schedule" They "would love to buy your bag/boots/shirt for their sister's birthday" They "wonder if that book is any good" They "Need to know anything and everything they could look up on their phone, but somehow only a lone, unaccompanied, attractive woman of their age can possibly he…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:53 PM
3	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men How in the world could you misread that? If she doesn't want to talk to him, if she's busy, if she's certain or uncertain he's angling to proposition her, she isn't required by any social norm to entertain him. it doesn’t mean the man is propositioning her I don't know why you are pretending a woman can't tell if a man is attracted to her and targeted her because of his one-sided attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:44 PM
12	What incentive someone who belongs to a negatively stereotyped group like men has to behave well or he's still going to be judged by the stereotype? Its some real original sin type shit And you wrote this with no /s and no trace of irony. Boggling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:33 PM
7	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I think there’s no harm done if it’s just a normal dude checking out my groceries and starts a convo. Dude. Women know that organic small talk is harmless. Stop pretending that women equate organic small talk is equivalent to men beelining a woman and making up a horseshit excuse to ask her a question. I get why women immediately shut men down when they talk to them but I also think that sucks for men who are just talkative and friendly people. Are you claiming that women can't tell the differen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:27 PM
14	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Yabbut no men here know a single man who catcalls women or stalks children, sooo... According to TRP and PPD men, no male predators exist and everything they do is in earnest and morally righteous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:24 PM
13	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men If he's polite and neighborly with everyone, she'll never notice. If he's only "polite" and "neighborly" with lone, attractive women, she knows why he's in her face.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:13 PM
12	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Small talk is normal. Making a beeline for attractive women his age under pretense of needing help or advice is transparent as hell, and annoying unless she's shown some sign of mutual interest. I don't think this is a fun conversation. Plausible deniability is horseshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:09 PM
6	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I'm pretty sure telling a woman she dropped her wallet is a genuine act I doubt that happens often, and it surely doesn't happen as often as men claim it does in an attempt to save face.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:07 PM
5	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I don't think women typically fake reasons to talk to men, no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:54 PM
6	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men I don't' understand how this pertains to your OP or my comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:35 PM
9	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Normal stuff? He's faking a reason to talk to a woman he's interested in. What's normal about that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:27 PM
10	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men If he didn't talk to her, he shouldn't worry about it. But if he made a beeline for her and tried to start some lameass, phony conversation, he doesn't get to pretend he had a valid reason for seeking out an attractive woman around his age for a Very Important Question when he could have used his phone to look up the answer or asked any man the same question. If a man wants to hit on or talk to a woman because he likes the way she looks, he might as well own it instead of pretending that he isn'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:27 PM
7	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men It doesn't matter if they are "genuine" if their attention is unwanted or inappropriate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:21 PM
17	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men Here is one of the most popular fantasies by men who have been ignored after shooting their shot. " I wasn't even flirting, this one time a woman dropped a $50 bill/left her card in the machine/dropped her keys but she was too stuck up to respond to me so oh well, I hope she suffered". "I was just being friendly" "I was just asking for help on how to cook this eggplant" "I just wanted to know which wine pairs with fish and she snubbed me" "I was new in town and wanted to know where the nearest S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:14 PM
4	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? You just rephrased exactly what I said while spinning it to flatter men who persist despite reciprocation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:08 PM
20	Women overestimate the times they are being "hit" by men No, women are well aware of how men use plausible deniability to pretend they were "just being friendly" to take the sting out of rejection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:00 PM
1	It's not a coincidence that women who have high amounts of experience tend to hate men and be the most cynical No sir, I like most men. But men who have bought the PUA/TRP horseshit that all male attention is socially sanctioned whether it's reciprocal or not can fuck right off. Women under 40 are not required to entertain all comers and are allowed to be annoyed to disgusted by rude, unwanted propositions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:58 PM
3	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? Maybe by your idiosyncratic definitions but most men use them to convey mustering the courage to express their interest in a woman ...with zero interest or concern if she's mutually interested. That's what I said. You realize that "hanged" and "lynched" have different connotations? You realize that "Spreading the Good News" is a spin Jehovah's Witnesses put on proselytizing, right? You realize that "being friendly" is different than "propositioning a woman", right? Words have meanings, often loa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:51 PM
1	It's not a coincidence that women who have high amounts of experience tend to hate men and be the most cynical I feel the generation discrepancies make discussions here fraught and circular. Middle aged men have no idea what dating is like for introverted, autistic men in their early twenties, but those middle aged men have no problem assuring young, introverted, autistic men they should go to the mall and hit on women or go to clubs and pretend to be extroverted. Things are not the same. Women in our twenties aren't required to tolerate unwanted sexual advances in any venue, and most of us have shit to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:45 PM
4	A lot of men are jealous of women. it comes off as feminine and is one of the reasons men have issues finding partners Plenty of men haven’t had anything but negative experiences from women. Then don't date women and avoid women. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:33 PM
3	The men here fail because they refuse to take any risks I play all the team sports in summer and bowl in winter. I agree these are terrific places to socialize, expand a social circle and potentially date likeminded people. But I have a feeling most TRP men aren't athletic. If they were, they'd have had dating success in elementary and high school and wouldn't be searching for shortcuts, cheat codes, and hacks for dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:32 PM
1	It's not a coincidence that women who have high amounts of experience tend to hate men and be the most cynical Using a reference my dad frequently uses. Airplane, 1980. Hmm.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:30 PM
4	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? what is a man supposed to do to not look like the others? ...care about her mutual interest???	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:27 PM
5	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? trying to demonstrate that they're worthy of affection and intimacy Regardless of her interest or lack thereof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:26 PM
3	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? "courting" and "shoot your shot" carry the same connotations. These are phrases men use when defending unwanted romantic or sexual attention. Both imply there are social norms in place which permit men the privilege of propositioning all women regardless of women's mutual interest or the lack thereof.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:26 PM
3	Is this sort of thing creepy or cute? Let's see those socially/legally consequential rejections and false allegations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:15 PM
3	The men here fail because they refuse to take any risks Faking a persona long enough to snare a girlfriend is a terrible idea, this is why PUAs are universally disliked and distrusted. It's painfully obvious when someone pretends to be someone else, and on the off chance a man is a convincing actor, he's going to revert to his natural personality and habits the minute he's comfortable. All those loners who gird their loins and stalk women in clubs while pretending to be gregarious and outgoing? Are going to revert to hardcore gamers who spend all the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 02:04 PM
6	True love can exist only between 2 people who had a bad life and now they try to find love. Damaged people take out their frustrations and sense of helplessness on those closest to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 01:35 PM
0	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Who said Chad loves a woman? I said Chad actually likes women as opposed to non-Chad who hates women with ever non-dick fiber of his being. Chad had female friends he does not have sex with and will not have sex with. Chad is invited to parties and has best friends and is trusted around his buddies’ partners. Chad is fun. Sometimes Chad falls in love and eventually Chad settles down. But until Chad settles down, he’s the life of the party. Said feelings developed naturally over time - If they do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 01:03 AM
0	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. No, I think that men who like women are successful with women, and men who hate women and “don’t need females as friends” are destined to fail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:49 PM
1	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Oh look, another revenge fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:16 PM
-2	We raised a generation of progressive men and traditional women. Make this post. Please.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:11 PM
8	We raised a generation of progressive men and traditional women. Because women realized they could have exciting, mutually gratifying sex with men they are attracted to rather than lying under the dependent, helpless “husband” who can’t even wash his own underwear, much less raise his kids in her absence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:09 PM
-2	We raised a generation of progressive men and traditional women. More than attractive women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:07 PM
1	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. I work with Chad. I play golf, softball, volleyball, and squash with Chad. Chad likes women. Women like Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:04 PM
2	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. You think these dudes are the only one with that problem? At least you admit it’s a problem, but no. Women suffer subscription to conspiracies and hate groups at a far lower rate than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 09:04 PM
3	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. None of them are remotely believable and the most famous PUA social media influencers have been outed for paying actresses to pretend to go along with their sales pitches. One even took his own life after being exposed as a fraud. “I got a blow job from this hot bitch 8 while I was winning roulette and another hot bitch 9 gave me her husband’s Corvette because I made her scream in ecstasy while she rode my dick in an Applebees bathroom then I went to a high class strip club while a model had an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 06:39 PM
1	Many Men don't seem to understand the difference between sexualization and sexyness So what are men supposed to do ignore a woman they find attractive Yep. Same as you would if an attractive woman is on the arm of another man. If she isn’t interested or attracted, his attraction is not only inconsequential, it’s a potential nusiance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 06:18 PM
10	If sex and relationships were off the table: do women find men appealing in any way? Are we funny or interesting? Seems to be a requisite for the red pill. Misandry = rejection or disinterest according to most men here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 06:07 PM
7	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Take a look at field reports. They keep track of what they did, and what the outcome is. Those reports are collected, collated, and analyzed for patterns. You seriously believe their fantasies??	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 05:32 PM
1	If sex and relationships were off the table: do women find men appealing in any way? Are we funny or interesting? This question is peculiar, do you really know any fun, engaging women without male friends? Obviously women like their male friends, coworkers, and their brothers, and their cousins, and their fathers, and their uncles, grandfathers, stepfathers... what in the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 05:11 PM
3	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. LOL the prevalence of middle aged to elderly men on TRP and PPD and r/deadbedrooms, r/divorce, and posting on these sites while begging for attention on porn sites.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 05:01 PM
8	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. PUA communities utilize the scientific method to determine the best way Let's see that evidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:59 PM
4	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. but why has all of this taken off with so many guys? Because they are vulnerable to cheat codes and social media influencers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:58 PM
2	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Did you read the OP you replied to?? casey zander, todd V, even corey wayne, amongst others - where the primary emphasis is on harnessing emotional states	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:57 PM
6	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. yes, chad loves women because he gets sex and adoration from them, Yep, a mutually beneficial experience. while timothy is jacking off alone in his apartment while the women he has a crush on You mean the woman who isn't remotely romantically or physically attracted to him? and crying to him. Sure, because timothy pretended to be her platonic friend and she confided her disappointment to him. That's how friendships work. But orbiters don't understand friendships since they don't actually like th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:50 PM
3	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Can't people have a serious, lasting relationship before 30? Obviously that happens? But that isn't what we are discussing, is it? We're discussing men who had zero social or romantic experiences with women in elementary, high school, or college yet expect to find similarly inexperienced partners. Think long and hard about the differences. Or rather, don't bother. Men, whether they have social experience or not, whether they have dating experience or not, whether they are neuortypical or not, pu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:46 PM
5	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Most of the arranged marriages that I personally know of (so anecdotal of course) both people must finish college before marriage. They will meet a few times, maybe even go on dates and for family functions n allat. BUT focus on education before the marriage. Does she continue to work? What are the familial and cultural ramifications for divorce for her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:37 PM
10	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. A lot of women have rights. Where in the world did you get the idea that legal rights somehow trump cultural, social, educational, and professional realities? Like how can women work if they were married and pregnant at 18 and forbidden to attend college, or forbidden by their own families to work? How easy do you believe it is for an uneducated single mother in her 30s to find work which supports her family? Be serious right now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:10 PM
12	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. She doesn't think that, she hopes that his feelings and goals line up. Until people near 30 or so, it's all a crapshoot. We stumble across people we believe are compatible and have similar goals, but often discover a mismatch in intentions. It's part of growing up. No big deal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:08 PM
13	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Chad actually likes women and wants to spend time with them, timothy wants to extract sex and attention from women without caring about women's attraction or desires. Wild you even have to ask.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:06 PM
17	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Women will continue to prefer men who do it naturally and avoid men who are clearly, obviously, painfully faking it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:58 PM
3	Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males? I don't believe your desire for a partner who cares about you when you openly admit you don't care about others is reasonable or rational.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:57 PM
11	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Vehemently disgusted by men's irrational belief in conspiracies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:52 PM
16	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. I know there are statistics that show that arranged marriages tend to last longer. Gee, I wonder why arranged marriages with women who are not allowed to work outside the home or even exit their homes without a male escort last longer. because cultures that utilize arranged marriages tend to not support divorces unless in extreme cases. Ya think? What are women with zero education, zero means of supporting themselves, and no cultural or familial support of single women supposed to do except lie …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:41 PM
20	Our generation's complete and total dependence on emotion based decision making early in the courtship process is killing good potential relationships from forming. Everything about this post is disturbing evidence that men actually believe red pill and PUA grifters instead of their own social experience. men realize they must elicit these strong emotions in order to hook a women Men cannot elicit "these strong emotions in order to hook a woman". Chemistry and rapport are there, or they are not. If she doesn't want his tongue in her mouth, there isn't any action or acting he can perform to make affection, intimacy, or sex fun for her. This results in gamifi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:29 PM
0	Why do even women with high libidos prefer monogamy or sex with just one partner? What is true? Testosterone is not the sole determinate for sex drive despite what men here claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:23 PM
7	Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males? I have to pretend to care about what other people think usually. If you don't care about what other people think, why do you expect them to care about you? You said this in another comment: "because I just want love and romance like everyone else." If you don't care about everyone else, you can't reasonably expect them to care about you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 03:22 PM
2	Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males? the more people tell me I come off as a serial killer or psychopath. This is unsettling, but it's also vague. Can you explain why people read your behavior this way? Is it your sense of humor? Intensity? Obsessive? What? It makes no sense to allude to something so startling yet decline to elaborate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:38 PM
2	There’s a sudden surge of openly anti-male content on tiktok/twitter/threads, etc. What does this mean for the future of gender relations? Because women are the custodial parent more often than men, not because women are more likely to behave aggressively or abusively towards others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:18 PM
–	A rarely recognized red flag is when women make fun of or avoid "mama's boys". And C. has been put in the position to serve Mommy's emotional needs as a surrogate husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:17 PM
–	A rarely recognized red flag is when women make fun of or avoid "mama's boys". And I don't think you understand the meaning of "mamma's boy". I'll give you a hint: it doesn't mean having a healthy relationship with your mother Agreed. "The signs of mother-son enmeshment are: Lack of personal boundaries. Overly dependent relationship. Inappropriate closeness (such as having overly intimate conversations about their lives) Difficulty separating. Emotional manipulation (from the mother) Feelings of obligation toward the mother (from the son)"	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:16 PM
7	Why do even women with high libidos prefer monogamy or sex with just one partner? They don't listen, this argument has been rehashed here one thousand times. The men here believe that testosterone is the sole determinate for libido.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:13 PM
18	Why do even women with high libidos prefer monogamy or sex with just one partner? Or plan B? You think women enjoy vomiting, a massive headache, and a disrupted cycle* for sex they probably didn't orgasm from? *a disrupted cycle means no method of predicting the next period or two, which means a chance of ruining clothing, embarrassing yourself at work, a ruined vacation, surprise periods during sex... I swear men regard vaginas as a convenient sock while women's reproductive organs rule their entire existence from ages 12-55. Do men need a reminder that women experience disc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:10 PM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. So you think if women make conversation about their experiences like "I learned this lesson and discovered that I'm uncomfortable with men who expect or do this thing, and going forward I won't date men who bet on sports/punch walls when angry/expect sexual favors during my period when I can't enjoy it/refuse to clean up after themselves are not my type of men" are angry at men? Are you one of those men who takes every word from women as a literal call to action?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 02:00 PM
3	Why do even women with high libidos prefer monogamy or sex with just one partner? In order of risk: Men get attached and turn into stalkers. Men have an inordinate amount of uncomfortable fetishes and weird proclivities learned from porn, many of which are uncomfortable or awkward and ruin mutually gratifying sex. Men have a hair trigger with new lovers because novelty sets them off.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 01:06 PM
13	Women hate socially awkward and/or quiet males? Another claim that a lack of attraction equals persecution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 01:20 AM
2	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. continue to take your anger out What women are angry? Why in the world would women be angry about having past relationships, which is typical for most adults? I have no idea what you mean by this comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 01:16 AM
0	Female women, do you also have those "They only go for jerks" thoughts? You realize that attraction is an entirely subjective process and that others’ opinions are worthless, right? Do you also judge people if they prefer different foods and colors than you? When will red pill men realize that they aren’t in a position to judge who women ought to date? There is a reason those women aren’t dating certain men and prefer others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 01:12 AM
5	Female women, do you also have those "They only go for jerks" thoughts? Nope. People like who they like and we have no control over it and our opinions are worthless. Love is blind (to faults) right? Men who judge women for their choices are just petty and vindictive because they feel rejected.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 11:17 PM
12	what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially? Its about giving back the place we've had in the past. It has never been clear whether sexual advancements in any social settings is desirable before the act. It used to be that if a woman decides that such social interaction is undesirable, SHE can leave. This is monstrous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 08:18 PM
14	what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially? It’s either their lack of friends or the lack of blanket permission to hit on every unaccompanied woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 08:15 PM
3	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Yeah, there is a distinction between regular relationship drama and dating cheaters, abusers, and manipulators. The vast majority of terpers here do not differentiate and in fact claim that every complaint about an unhappy relationship or breakup is “abuse”. Doesn’t matter anyway, since every relationship, including those which ended amicably, taint women in red pill men’s eyes. All relationships which don’t end in a lifelong marriage to a woman’s first partner are somehow damaging to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:46 PM
5	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. There’s a good reason men have zero problem identifying other men with abusive tendencies Oh really, then how is it that no man ever knows a pedo? Or a man who creeps on minors? And no man ever sees a catcall and no man ever knows a man who overreacts to rejection and no man knows a single stalker?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:41 PM
2	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. And all the men who women cheated on? The men who claim they were blindsided? And all the men who claim the divorce “came out of nowhere, everything seemed fine”? What about those men? Should they, too, have left before the cheating and the divorce?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:39 PM
0	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Why didn't the person leave them at the first signs of (whatever the situation was)? Sunk cost fallacy, same for everyone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:37 PM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. If they are compatible and mutually attracted? He’s a good man, or rather, a good choice. If she isn’t attracted he may be a good man who stays out of trouble, but he isn’t a good choice of partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 07:06 PM
1	Do you think people and society expect guys, men, to have natural instinctive innate common sense for knowing what is creepy, weird or uncomfortable, and what is not when approaching or interacting with women? Platitudes are not meant to be taken literally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 06:09 PM
5	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Rarely happens, but take the same sentiment and date women who are not attracted, but don’t expect sex from them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 04:02 PM
4	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. It also flies directly in the face of any suggestion that relationships are or should be based on more than just looks. A woman should reject men she isn’t physically attracted to unless she is certain he won’t expect sex from her. Yeah, no shit that confuses men, because it's nonsensical and two-faced as fuck. Oh? So what is your take on men who insist they don’t want to be settled for or “beta buxxed” while also demanding a chance to date women who are not physically attracted. Which is it? Do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 03:46 PM
6	CMV: As a society there's almost nothing we can do to help lonely men OP should be stickied or added to the sidebar because the constant circular complaints about the “unfairness” of female sexual selectivity are a huge waste of time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:10 PM
6	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. That isn’t how college works. Nerds and jocks rarely cross paths and rarely study the same majors. College is mentally and socially strenuous and there is little time for a jock to hunt down the CS majors and bully them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:00 PM
2	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Collegs girls witnessing the jock bullying the nerds are still going for those jocks, why? This is a movie, not reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:57 PM
0	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Just hoping futilely for that consistency terpers claim they desire.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:43 PM
7	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. I don’t know why this continues to be a mystery to men. What woman wants to spend her life with a man she isn’t attracted to? He’s going to expect sex for the duration, right? Even if she can’t stand the idea of his tongue in her mouth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:34 PM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Are you equally concerned about the physical and emotional well-being or orbiters and the millions of men who whine about being “friendzoned” because they sunk all their hope into women who were not remotely attracted to them romantically or physically? Those men certainly can’t vet and according to red pill metrics, each deserves the pain of being ignored or rejected since they willfully pursued women who do not want them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:33 PM
4	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. I’ve always admitted that a man a woman isn’t attracted to isn’t a hood romantic or sexual choice. He isn’t a good partner for her. He may be a decent human being who stays out of trouble, but that doesn’t mean he’s a better choice than the man she’s attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:31 PM
4	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. If they're the ones consistently in failed relationships over and over again, who else is to blame for that? No one. People outgrow one another and most people have more than one relationship before settling into a lifelong commitment. Plenty of guys will bring this up to their male friends as well or close family. Why? Because they are on the outside looking in and incorrectly assume they know how relationships ought to work despite never having been in a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:25 PM
1	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. sometimes it's violence in the bedroom, Today most men under forty have been conditioned by pornography and assume it counts as sex education. They bring their fetishes, kinks, and gross misunderstandings of women to the bedroom. And the men who are not successful with women rely on porn even more. There isn’t anything women can do to avoid the weird or gross things men do because they learned it by watching porn, there is no fucking way you can blame sexual violence on women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:11 PM
8	Why is Dating Supposed to be a Meritocracy? This is typical for red pill adherents. They don’t see women as people with agency, but as accessories to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:00 PM
3	Why is Dating Supposed to be a Meritocracy? maybe the right person hasn't come along yet" Because terpers screech “just world fallacy” at anyone who dares to hint at a lid for every pot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:58 PM
5	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Nearly everyone has more than one relationship in their past. That doesn’t mean they made the same mistake more than once, it doesn’t indicate any mistakes at all. People outgrow one another. The men who blame women for having failed relationships in their past are actually angry with themselves for missing the typical milestones and projecting that frustration onto the women they want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:54 PM
5	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. This is accurate. Frustrated men seem to believe popular men are their romantic rivals, so they describe them as villains as some sort of coping strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:30 PM
5	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. Men who feel left out tend to assume women who complain about heartbreak or disappointment in a failed relationship choose bad, abusive partners and assign blame when almost every typically developing person has more than one relationship by the end of high school, a few by the end of college. Most people don’t marry their first love or their first steady boyfriend or girlfriend and break ups are confusing and painful. A complaint about feeling hurt isn’t evidence that someone “picked badly”, it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:28 PM
-3	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. If she isn’t attracted, he isn’t a good man. If he is embittered because he’s been overlooked, he isn’t a good man. If he believes himself superior to popular people by virtue of being left out, he isn’t a good man. If he is humorless and uptight, he isn’t a good man. He may be an okay human being who generally stays out of trouble, but he isn’t a good choice of partner for most women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:22 PM
4	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. yes, attraction being a component but not the sole determinant. Except a lack of attraction is a legitimate sole determinate regardless of how nice and decent a man claims to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:17 PM
4	Men who tell women “pick better men” are just telling women not to pick them. I agree. Extreme views and devotion to conspiracy theories and cult behavior are evidence of antisocial behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 10:45 AM
5	Halloween parties are a way for women in relationships to manipulate or put pressure on their men. They also are one of the most underrated and obviously red flags guys miss I’ve never been to an American beach, lake, river, or swimming pool without bikinis and the current trend is nearly a thong. Where is your beach? He'd have to be wearing a dick sock. That’s what a Speedo looks like, full reveal of the shape and size of a flaccid penis and testicles. It’s not a big deal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 10:41 AM
2	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? So “male nature” is sour grapes, then, and women should stay far away from men who can’t reach the grapes. Hear that, women? Don’t give guys who fall short of genetic and social perfection a chance, because any man unable to pull is certain to despise women, that’s just male nature.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 06:31 AM
1	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? lot of them just end up hating it (and women) as a result lmfao. Yeah, that’s what I said. Teaches men to hate what they want most in the world. If that isn’t evidence of failure, nothing is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 03:39 AM
3	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? We all know exactly what it is and how the followers feel about women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:48 AM
3	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? This is a very transparent and honest comment, seems like it should be easy for you to connect with others, since you are unafraid of expressing yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:31 AM
8	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? As someone with several male friends and coworkers I regard as brothers, this is the most peculiar thing. “Women are no use to me unless we’re fucking, I prefer the company of men”. Seems homoadjacent to say the least.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:29 AM
4	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? How can anyone improve their station if they are exposed to misogyny every time they open an app? TRP teaches men to hate women, which is the very thing they want the most.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 02:26 AM
-2	Do you think people and society expect guys, men, to have natural instinctive innate common sense for knowing what is creepy, weird or uncomfortable, and what is not when approaching or interacting with women? There is someone for everyone, it’s just that men don’t like their options and aim well above their range.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:49 AM
6	What are women's motivations for wanting casual sex only? Not as shitty as shaming and punishing adults for having a couple relationships or sexual experiences in their past, since most adults have had more than one partner by age 25 or so if not younger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:45 AM
6	What are women's motivations for wanting casual sex only? She can just lie about her past, which conservative men have trained women to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:42 AM
17	What are women's motivations for wanting casual sex only? There are threads here about how women sleep with hot guys in hopes of getting them Men make those claims, it’s a revenge fantasy. I am wondering, what is the female motivations most likely for just wanting casual only, since it's widely believed here Because sex feels good and it’s fun. But sometimes after sex a woman discovers that she just isn’t socially or emotionally compatible with a man and doesn’t want to share her life with him. Same as men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:30 AM
6	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? As if overweight women are lining up to date asocial men with problems relating to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:11 AM
6	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? Because pre-rejection gives men the illusion of choice. If they believe they can turn some women down, it’s better than having no options at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 01:04 AM
5	People on this sub, do you ever feel tired of being angry? Revenge fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 12:58 AM
6	Double standards are valid since... men sleep with women they would never date and women sleep with men they can never date. Another discussion about “fairness” which doesn’t matter at all. When people are growing up, they date and often discover they don’t want to spend the rest of their life with their first two or three boyfriends or girlfriends. This is a typical, normal part of growing up and most people understand by the time they’ve reached 25 or so and are ready to settle into a career or home, they and everyone they might date has ex boyfriends or ex girlfriends. Who a person falls in love with and wants to r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 09:13 PM
3	How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like? So guys have zero accountability for their behavior? I helped all kinds of kids with their homework in high school and college, and still help interns now at 27 and I don’t expect sex or romance in return. Why do boys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 09:03 PM
1	How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like? Can you translate?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 06:41 PM
6	How do you avoid desperation if you rarely meet anyone who you really like? Friendship is a mutually beneficial relationship, valuable even if she aren’t interested in touching his dick. A lack of attraction isn’t a demotion, it’s just an artifact of biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 12:38 PM
2	Cold approaching doesn’t work Do men approach other men in non social venues and ask to be their friends?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 11:07 PM
2	Cold approaching doesn’t work No, my comments specifically recommend cultivating and maintaining a social sphere so men have friends to go to social venues and social events with. It’s not a blind approach when people gather for a shared interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 10:07 PM
4	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate Yes, and those people are the same kind of nuisances unless their services are desired, in which case they aren’t bothering strangers, are they?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 10:05 PM
9	You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith. Women hold all the sexual power and take no accountability for it What does this mean?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 08:42 PM
3	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate The difference is he doesn’t get arrested, at best she gets escorted to her car and at worst he gets asked to leave private property. Just like your salespeople, they aren’t arrested for merely existing but for making others uncomfortable. But as TRP men love to remind women, they will hassle any woman they feel like hassling because they are convinced their desire to wet their dick is more important than whatever a woman is doing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 08:39 PM
2	Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costly Also women tend to be much more proactive about hanging out with their friends which is something I miss a ton. This is true. My friends and I have a private social media group anyone can post events on, it’s almost always a woman organizing get togethers or road trips. But men sometimes post “I need new socks and want tacos, anyone want to go to the Nike outlet and get something to eat” or post that they need help Christmas shopping. Maybe you could creat a group with all your friends and frien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 06:52 PM
1	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate I have some sympathy for men who can’t read the room, but they all admit they are aware that for every phone number, there are 99 rejections and yet they persist anyway. It’s difficult to muster sympathy for men who are a willful nuisance with unreasonable expectations. Frankly not even sure where they get the nerve to dictate how women should handle unwanted approaches.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 06:25 PM
2	Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costly I’ve never met any men who don’t want a mixed group of friends and there are no men in my sphere who are paranoid about being used or taken advantage of, this topic is bizarre with regards to real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 06:23 PM
3	Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costly Lot of anime watchers with no female friends the first men called when men and women need help moving? Seems like it would be the outgoing, musclebound guys she knows from work and the gym instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 05:06 PM
0	Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costly How in the hell can men expect a successful relationship if they can’t even manage platonic friendships with women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 05:02 PM
4	Men do appreciate female friendship, but they often avoid it because it is costly Meanwhile a corresponding thread demands that women accommodate all approaches with a blush and curtsy and assume all cold approachers have wholesome intentions and our mutual best interests at heart. This place is a wilderness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 04:58 PM
7	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate Are women allowed to be annoyed at an unwanted sales pitch or no? When men collectively decided that women have no choice but to stand still and facilitate unwanted propositions, they left women’s choice and preferences entirely out of the occasion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 04:12 PM
1	People misunderstand the idea of "stop chasing women and focus on career and life" Even the acknowledgement that guys do want to look for a wife, a girlfriend, a partner, and not just a woman to fuck can move the needle a bit. Why would this matter? There isn’t anything wrong with a desire for sex, unless and until someone seeks it from unwilling, disinterested parties. And there isn’t anything wrong with seeking romance or relationships, so long as they seek it from interested parties. It’s wildly annoying when men claim moral higher ground with “Well what if he wants more th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 02:39 PM
4	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate How many men persist with approaching whilst knowing women sometimes find it alarming enough to call police? Maybe think this through. If women are contacting security and public safety officers for protection from unwanted attention, men might be going about dating wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 02:35 PM
7	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate How often are religious proselytizers and aggressive cold call sales people welcome in your home?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 02:20 PM
6	Are men more romantic? I’m not sure what is confusing about this. Men go directly from their mother’s care to a wife who they expect to perform the exact same tasks while still somehow maintaining sexual attraction to an adult who behaves as a dependent child. If occasionally making his favorite food and his home and family comfortable and well cared for isn’t romantic, perhaps men should admit they do not recognize feminine care and contributions to their well being. But don’t take my word for it, let’s ask men who l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 02:12 PM
2	Are men more romantic? Caring for a supposedly competent, adult man as though he is a child isn’t romantic? You sure about that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 02:04 PM
7	There is no correct way of approaching women which cannot at some point be construed as annoying or inappropriate Any man can ask himself “Does this woman who doesn’t even know I’m alive want to date, marry, or have sex with me?” Or “Maybe I should flirt with this friendly acquaintance and see how it lands. If she deflects or demurs, she isn’t interested. If she she throws it back, maybe I’ll ask if she wants to go for coffee”	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 01:55 PM
1	Cold approaching doesn’t work Or, hear me out, men stop annoying disinterested women because they want attention and instead, make friends and attend social functions in social spaces conducive to mingling with like-minded people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 01:18 PM
2	Cold approaching doesn’t work And it isn't fun to develop them, especially not for people with autism or introverts. Talking at 100 disinterested strangers isn't developing social skills, it's "grinding", as you said. I'm talking about simply approaching and trying to initiate small talk and discovering along the way the patterns so that in the future one knows how to be good company instead of an annoyance. This is what making friends and interacting in social spaces is for. I'm aware that neurodivergent men are uncomfortab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 01:06 PM
1	Are men more romantic? Then she should break the routine and stop caring for a grown man like a child and he should care for himself if he wants sex and respect instead of parental affection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 01:01 PM
4	Are men more romantic? Definitely not looking for a dependent man-child, who is thankfully rare in my region.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:49 PM
–	Cold approaching doesn’t work You would think, but they don't. They behave as through they've discovered cheat codes to getting laid and avoid social spaces entirely. Friendless and needy, not a good look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:48 PM
1	Cold approaching doesn’t work ‘I’ve seen you around the neighborhood and I just wanted to say hi’ Creepy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:46 PM
1	Cold approaching doesn’t work And, moreover, some guys approach only because they think you would be a good match for each other. Based on what.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:44 PM
0	Cold approaching doesn’t work It takes balls to approach like that in public. It takes an utter lack of friends and social skills, not balls. It takes balls to make friends and interact in social spaces.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:43 PM
–	Cold approaching doesn’t work They don't go out to social spaces because they know they can't compete with sociable men, so they haunt stores and sidewalks and trap lone women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:42 PM
1	Cold approaching doesn’t work If they are aware that this is a grinding process Women aren't levels in video games, they are human beings men deliberately antagonize and annoy for fun. What do PUAs think actually happens when they irritate 100 random women each week?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:40 PM
2	Cold approaching doesn’t work You continuously approach and annoy massive numbers of moderately attractive to attractive women and they only lean farther away from needy strangers. Congrats to the, PUAs, who made many women despise cold approach because of the ridiculous numbers of disinterested women they annoy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:39 PM
7	Are men more romantic? They don't do anything that isn't for their own benefit, or their offspring's like men do. Which men sacrifice their bodies to bring a child into the world and provide food, care, and comfort around the clock?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:22 PM
2	Are men more romantic? Man is free to live alone, and he should until he learns to appreciate the level of care women provide to their partners and family.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:21 PM
4	Are men more romantic? Romance has the objective of making your partner feel special and love. Emphasis on special. Any and every sex act in which he obtains gratification and she doesn't. Every act of care in the home which makes his life comfortable or easy. Every act of taking care of his family member's emotional needs which he ignores and neglects.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:20 PM
8	Are men more romantic? That is the equivalent of saying that working a job is romantic. It is your duty. He's going to work anyway, as adults do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:19 PM
6	Are men more romantic? Then men can feed their goddamn selves, take care of their own goddamn kids and clean their own goddamn messes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:18 PM
–	CMV As Men we are not allowed to complain about Women standards, because back in the day we had a system that forced Women to date undesirable man. This what we see today is just the „fair“ game. Women don't receive dating help from the government.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 12:15 PM
–	Why is desperation seen as such a bad thing? That's disgusting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 06:45 PM
–	Why is desperation seen as such a bad thing? Most men claim to fear being settled for while admitting they will settle for the first of 99 women who say yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 04:51 PM
–	Why is desperation seen as such a bad thing? Tell her that during your wedding vows and see if she stays.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 04:32 PM
–	Why is desperation seen as such a bad thing? This is PUA talk. She's 1 of 99 women who said no, so not special at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 04:26 PM
–	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? If he's inhibited, insecure, religious, or conservative, he isn't likely to care much about mutual satisfaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 02:57 PM
3	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Sad but true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 02:52 PM
2	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Respectable and attractive men have plenty of options for relationships, Self-described respectable men populate TRP and PPD and they aren't successful with dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 02:41 PM
13	What do you think about red flags? Are red flags truths? Are men actually struggling to evade those women? Are those men in real and present danger of dating or marrying tattooed women? I have zero tattoos, and I haven't felt any fear or trepidation that a conservative man might ensnare me. Must be different for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 02:02 PM
–	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? Does that relationship involve mutually satisfying sex?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:58 PM
16	What do you think about red flags? Are red flags truths? Are those women chasing and attempting to marry men with no tattoos? Is this seriously a social hazard for men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:57 PM
16	What do you think about red flags? Are red flags truths? You'll have to ask friendless people with no friends who are uncomfortable with social activities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:56 PM
7	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? It's wild to me that red pill men still haven't figured out that a woman needs to actually like and respect a man to feel sexual excitement for him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:48 PM
11	What do you think about red flags? Are red flags truths? Since it's a social activity which happens in social spaces among friendly people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:45 PM
31	What do you think about red flags? Are red flags truths? For example, are women with tattoos, Religious and inexperienced men assume those women have sexual experience they can't measure up to. They are red flags for those men, but tattooed women aren't likely to have any interest in religious and inexperienced men, anyway. Consuming alcohol is frequently a social activity. Asocial men who dislike drinking probably don't participate in social activities, so that's a "red flag" for friendless men uncomfortable in social environments. Men who mistrust w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:45 PM
0	Besides physical unattractiveness what are the most unattractive qualities in a man? Unattractive: intense, brooding facial expression stiff, uptight posture "well actually" conversation style cynicism Attractive: relaxed, easy posture grin sense of humor enthusiasm	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 01:13 PM
–	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? Bad sex with men women are not attracted to isn’t valuable. See r/ dead bedrooms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 12:23 AM
-4	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? Women who enjoy sex aren’t interested in inhibited men. Sexual frustration isn’t a selling point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 12:17 AM
0	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? Because it means he is unlikable and has no morals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/23 12:12 AM
1	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. In another post; but there are dozens of surveys and studies. How many do you require?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 06:08 PM
4	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. It’s well known, assumed your have access to a search engine. Article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think Study: https://www.murdoch.edu.au/news/articles/forget-beer-goggles-men-overestimate-attractiveness-anyway Not sure why you assume women are somehow hurt by men’s egos, but it’s easy to find evidence, you can do it, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 06:06 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. It’s not a guess, it’s the result of science.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 05:55 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. I live with logic and reason, and science demonstrates men overestimate their attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:58 PM
9	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Seems like a problem both parties are responsible for. Did she settle for financial security as her grandmother did? Did he marry a woman who was never powerfully sexually attracted just so he's proud of the photos on his desk?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:55 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. Men's tendency to overestimate their attractiveness is well known.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:47 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. Nope, it's standard acceptance that the LBGTQ experience is different than hetero experience, same as any other minority, and not remotely controversial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:44 PM
26	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Those men should allow their bodies to be used for the sole purpose of sexual release by people they are not excited by or attracted to before commenting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:30 PM
24	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? No woman thinks good sex is a chore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:20 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. No one wants to have sex with people they aren’t attracted to, that’s why sugar babies, mail order brides, and prostitutes have to be paid for sex. That’s the price of disgust and dissatisfaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:20 PM
69	If it's a chore why get in a relationship? Good sex with an exciting, independent man who takes care of himself and his household and family responsibilities is a perk, not a chore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 04:14 PM
6	Do you think society is more hostile for women now? “We stopped beating you as much and rape you less and now resort to bullying you in every sphere instead, why aren’t you happy?”	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:58 PM
3	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. I feel that sexual deviants and misogynists are the biggest risk to women, same as always.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:27 PM
2	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. u/Amiskon2 The least sexuality you provide men, the least they care about keeping your bubble intact. They don't, they never did. Sexually frustrated men are the least likely to care about women's safety and comfort and the most likely to offend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:24 PM
3	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. u/Amiskon2 Women rights don't exist. They are all enforced by men, they are delusions, just as women's productivity. All women jobs are facades of real work men do. Thanks for sharing, but what does this have to do with men's sexuality being everyone's concern?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:17 PM
3	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. Men don't provide safety, comfort, or everything else to women they aren't attracted to or the public in general unless forced to via terms of employment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:11 PM
2	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. Homosexual people are the same species, but have entirely different experiences and stressors growing up and exponentially restricted dating pools of people who grew up with the same social, cultural, and religious pressure to conform. Their formative and adult experiences are not comparable to the experiences of straight people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 03:00 PM
4	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. They weren't genuinely based on attraction when women had no choice but to marry a "good provider". They are authentic now that women can choose men they are mutually attracted to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 02:42 PM
-1	Men should accept upfront being settled for and eventually being broken up with/divorced. ...and lesbian couples do way worse... which suggests that it is not men as a variable causing this decay in marriage as much as women claim. No it doesn't, because the childhood, adolescence, and upbringing and experience of lesbians does not and can not compare to typical heterosexual experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 02:36 PM
2	Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids? All these men expect women to choose physically unattractive men to make a baby with, so why would me care if she's attractive or not? They can follow their own advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 02:20 PM
2	Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids? If women are legal age and old men leave me alone? I don’t care. I don’t see that happening, though. Old men are the biggest whiners about rejection.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 11:16 PM
0	Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids? If they can get dates and romantic and sexual attention, their standards are fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 11:07 PM
0	Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids? What’s more important, a woman who is in love and attracted to a man she can trust to help raise their children, or his legacy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 11:06 PM
0	Men who refuse to raise a child that isn’t biologically yours but want kids, why do you want kids? So marry and put a baby in any incubator, pick an unattractive woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 10:38 PM
4	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. If she isn’t interested, it doesn’t matter if he wants sex or a Hallmark romance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 08:14 PM
3	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs u/ Ok_Cantaloupe2159 Women were okay in 1940. We will put them at their place again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 06:44 PM
5	What are some problems men face that isn’t caused by women? u/Ok_Cantaloupe2159 I don’t blame the women at all. I blame the weak men who weren’t able to put the women at their place and force their role upon them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 06:44 PM
4	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. That isn't an answer to my question. Is their sexuality your business or your problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 06:40 PM
-3	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. What point are you making? Is the sexual desire of gay men you are not interested in dating your domain or your problem?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 05:09 PM
-6	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. Most bodily functions are private, manners are important. A stranger’s sexual desire is no one else’s problem or concern until or unless that stranger is mutually invested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 05:05 PM
-7	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. When did men get the idea that unwanted romantic and sexual desires were important to people who aren't interested? I don't want to hear about a man's issues with indigestion or constipation either unless he's a family member and I care about his health and well-being.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 04:52 PM
-2	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. Unless the man in question is attractive, him being anything other than an explicit asexual is seen as problematic and just one step away from rape. This was not the case previously, and this is the reason why men today are so passive in dating. Where did men even get the idea that their sexuality is anyone else's problem or concern?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 04:41 PM
3	Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship. That's what OP is explicitly permitting. All claims of a 5'2" Indian janitor/pussy slayer as as legitimate as any other anecdote. We are now free to dismiss any and all red pill claims of systemic social obstacles with "but the short Indian janitor I know slays, so you're wrong".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 04:37 PM
27	What are some problems men face that isn’t caused by women? Women have sex on tap, men don’t Men can also have bad sex they aren't interested in and can't orgasm from. But straight men don't allow their bodies to be used for someone else's orgasm, either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 04:08 PM
4	Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship. So this means that every poster who co-signed the above can no longer claim anything with regards to evolutionary psychology, right? No more Peterson horseshit. No more scientific "evidence" that testosterone levels are evidence that "women can never understand how important sex is to a man". No "hypergamy". No more claims that all women are like that, because according to OP's rules, not even soft science like psychology is reliable. And most of all, no more claims that men need sex and compani…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 02:16 PM
8	It's Illogical For Men on this Sub to Blame Women I don’t think men here actually believe women are required to facilitate dating and sex for them, placing blame is just their version of “you can’t fire me, I quit!” If they claim it’s out of their control, they aren’t responsible for their problems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 02:15 AM
6	Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship. I knew it!!! Good bot, most excellent of all bots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 12:42 AM
4	Anecdotes are superior to studies in providing sufficient information for forming conclusions regarding entering and maintaining a relationship. Do men who prefer anecdotes also consult a Magic 8 ball for directions, or the GPS designed and tested by grad students and other scientists? Who do they seek for help with diabetes, cancer, and heart problems, a witch doctor? Do they want their children taught by teachers, or do they just unlock their doors and hope their children learn by trial and error by running into the woods, playing in traffic, or getting candy from people in vans?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 12:41 AM
-1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD This is what is wrong with men who proclaim they do not need or want female friends, they’ve neatly excised their chances to show their personality. And now every woman they “approach” knows precisely what he wants from her and what she wants doesn’t matter to him at all. Those men might as well carry a sign that says “I want nothing to do with a woman unless she’s willing to provide sex or a romantic and sexual relationship to me”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:40 PM
–	General rise in mens resentment towards women? Protect women from what, Cotton Mather, 17th century time traveler?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 06:14 PM
3	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Right, like I said, men refuse to take accountability, and now you admit they “heard” something which was never said. Did women say they would prefer or accept ugly men? Did men see women choosing ugly men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:32 PM
-2	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD It’s “men refuse accountability and blame women”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:24 PM
–	General rise in mens resentment towards women? Men simply don't like to deal with women's personalities, they never did. Ain’t it, chief. Women couldn’t leave, couldn’t work outside the home, and spousal rape was permitted. Women had no choice but to accept the disrespect and abuse, which was how men liked it. Good news for misogynists, they have the same freedom to disrespect and harm women. They just can’t get laid as easily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:18 PM
–	General rise in mens resentment towards women? Because usually said rejections are the woman being toxic and vitriolic What a peculiar definition of violence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:08 PM
2	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Women never volunteered to serve the role as dating coach for men, and women aren’t required by any measure to facilitate dating for men. Men’s demands for cheat codes is really the most ridiculous ask. Also most young men are single Most young people are single, marital and relationship status at the time of a survey are meaningless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 04:15 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD I said there is no data proving that men were lied to or mislead. Obviously if most men are doing fine, there is no epidemic of misleading information.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 04:00 PM
1	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Lol, you claim there is no data yet also claim that the men saying they were mislead are a minority. Data show most men are dating or have dated, that’s how we all know a minority of men struggle with dating. You have zero way of knowing that if there is no data.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 03:45 PM
3	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD What kind of common sense will turn the statement "women don't care about look as much as men" into "women care about looks as much as men" or even "women care more about looks than men"? Seems like super mental gymnastics to me lol. This is why it is pointless. Men can look at a woman and decide he is willing to date her or have sex with her because sex is far less risky and far less of an investment to him. Women require social interaction to make those decisions, even if a man is conventional…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:17 PM
2	LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Nah plenty of women still constantly say men's dating issues mostly stem from their personality issues. Both can be true, and often at the same time. Go on TwoX or something and you'll see plenty of women trying take the high ground by saying women don't cae about looks as much as men. Women aren't likely to desire sex or dating based on a man's appearance alone, who he is also matters. Men need to apply reason and common sense to these discussions and admit their criteria for sex is far lower b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:53 PM