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| 10 | She ONLY got "hundreds" of DMs?? Not millions of them?? There is no justice in this ugly ugly world...Many men just don't take this into account when it comes to a woman being desirable to them for a long term relationship. It would be like if my surgeon also was an elite chess player. That is cool but doesn't have anything to do with whether or not I am going to be in good hands while being operated on. I dated women who did not have college degrees that were incredibly intelligent and well read. Having advanced degrees doesn't necessarily make you interesting. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/12/25 07:28 PM |
| – | Women should never lower their standardsBecause guys in the dating market dont compromise, so women shouldn't either. Almost everybody compromises on something with their partner. They also often find that the "compromises" they make don't matter at all once they meet the right person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/25 01:17 PM |
| 20 | Men are not attracted to young women because they are "naive and easy to manipulate" but mainly because they are thinner and have nicer skin. If you are a woman and you take care of yourself, you can post-pone "hitting the wall" and remain attractive even into your early 40s.If a 49 year old man wanted to date a 19 year old than yeah I would agree that he was not looking for an intelligent and mature partner. He only cared about looks. If a 49 year old man wanted to date a 35 year old woman I would not agree with you. Because there are a lot of whip smart people in their 30s who are very interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/25 07:38 PM |
| 2 | How many people here are happily married/in longterm relationships? If so, what is your perspective on the common themes and posts in this sub?Married. Male. Straight. Posters make broad overreaching claims that they think are universal answers. There are general trends but also each individual situation they are arguing has nuance to it. Dating/attraction/life exists in a vast grey area and people seem to want to make statements that make it seem black and white. The flip side to part 1 is that there are also posters on this sub who refuse to admit that certain things really do matter in dating/relationships. They are not the only thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 05:24 PM |
| – | I am sick of hearing about being stuck in the FRIENDZONE from menNot from what I have observed. The type of men who think of themselves in the "friendzone" are the type of guys who pine for a relationship with women and put them on a pedestal. They are not out for just sex. Yes they want sex but they also want a relationship. By no means am I defending these guys I just don't think they are looking for just sex. The guys who are out for just sex are going to more often than not shoot their shot really quickly. They don't fixate on any one woman. They don't th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 01:42 AM |
| – | Why are men’s standards “normal” but women’s “gold digging”Women are not shamed for dating older men. It is either framed as the woman exercising her autonomy or that the older guy is being predatory. No matter the age, intelligence, and success of a woman, if the man is older than I assure you someone who is not in the relationship is whining about power dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 11:09 PM |
| 22 | Perhaps women no longer being attractive to men as they get older is a good thing.You are blaming all men for the words of less than 1% of the population who are either keyboard jockeys or trolls. I have never said anything like that. Nor have any men I know who are married or in a relationship. Men who date younger don't talk about dating younger. They just live their lives and occasionally have to defend themselves when they are criticized for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 07:03 PM |
| 79 | Perhaps women no longer being attractive to men as they get older is a good thing.Men will also use younger women/girls as a tool to make older women jealous and try to make older compete for their attention when in reality competing for a man's attention is not worth it. You made a bunch of broad generalizations in your post that I don't agree with but this one is just completely false. Men do not pursue younger women to make women their own age jealous. This statement pretty much contradicts everything else that you have said in your post. Also, if you are an attractive per… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 03:43 PM |
| 5 | I DON'T buy that men who date a younger woman do it because they're easier to manipulateI think a 40 year old guy dating a 19 year old is off to most people. However, there are a lot of women who think men that are 40-45 that prefer women in their late 20s/early 30s are creeps as well. Often when a male celeb marries a woman who is younger than he is whether it be Chris Evans or Jon Hamm you see people start to clutch their pearls about age gaps in relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 05:52 PM |
| 1 | I DON'T buy that men who date a younger woman do it because they're easier to manipulateAlmost all of the time it is because they find the younger women incredibly attractive. There are a lot of men out there who have blown up their lives for attractive younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 04:26 PM |
| 1 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingThere are 38 year old divorced women who consistently date or chase after emotionally unavailable men who will never commit. There are more people who continue to make the same mistakes when choosing partners than those who find a way to course correct. Figuring out that you are the problem in who you select and being willing to work through your own issues to make the change is hard work that most people won't undertake. There are also 22 year olds who will never take shit from or let a guy lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Single men over 30 would you date women your age?So much of the age gap has to do with the fact that such a high % of people meet their partners in college or in early 20s. In general these people have no chance for there to be an age gap between them. What is interesting when it comes to age gaps is that when you look at the stats on 2nd marriages men marry someone 10+ years younger about 20% of the time and 6-9 years another 18% of the time. First marriages it is just 5% of marriages that have a 10+ year age gap. But that number would really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 02:13 PM |
| 3 | Single men over 30 would you date women your age?The kind of guy who has a lot of options with women his own age also has options (although not as many) with women who are younger than he is. At this point for them it becomes preference. In my experience it starts to really diverge after 35 for men where they are very set on dating younger. Most guys who are 30+ or 35+ are not focusing on early 20s. It is a lot more common to see a guy (who has options) who is late 30s looking for lates 20s/early 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?You see it all the time in major metropolitan areas like NYC, Chicago, Dallas, etc. It isn't sugar dating either. It is more often than not professional women dating professional men. Go to a major city. Set up a Bumble account and give your age as 40. You will see an endless number of women in their late 20s or younger who have opted in to dating men in that age range. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorYes. A lot do. But same thing. These women would drink and have fun but not hook up. Also, there are a lot of people who have FWB, short term relationships, vacation flings, etc. With or without alcohol it doesn't really change the fact. By the way I am not someone that believes women should not hookup or behave how they want to. I did and enjoyed my life before meeting my partner. But because I did I am not worried about whether I am marriage material or hook up material. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | if women date up, men do tooMen are painted as evil if they date younger. Men are criticized for dating younger. Women are criticized for dating wealthier. Both are insane criticisms as long as both are treating their partners well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 01:37 PM |
| 10 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I think most people are just happy when their life situation improves. Especially if other people either are happy for them or at the very least not critical/jealous. The 39 year old guy who is dating a cute 27 year old is damn happy. If he starts to hear criticism from people about the age gap he may get defensive and lash out. But in general people keep it moving when they are successful and don't need to flaunt it in other peoples faces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 01:35 PM |
| 3 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorThe great thing about being incredibly deisrable is that it gives you a lot of options. I don't think anyone is or should be looking for someone who has to be at their level. There are super cute women with great personalities that may click with a guy who has endless options more than the IG model who he has nothing in common with. The goal is happiness with your partner not getting the most desirable (on paper) person that you can. Just like the goal should be to make as much money to live the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 12:15 PM |
| 7 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorDefinitely after a certain age and place in life. If you are talking about a guy teens and/or early 20s they may not want or be able to be in a relationship. Also, a guy going through a grueling point of their career when they have incredible hours and stress. But I would say the majority of adult men (27 and older) would choose an amazing partner over single life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 11:06 PM |
| 33 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorDiffering perspectives is true. It has to do with value. Usually women with the most value (from the dating market not as a human being) are able to secure commitment pretty easily. These women could obviously hookup any time they wish but they also have guys actively pursuing them for relationships. Whereas the men with the most value (from the dating market not as a human being) are able to consistently secure hookups & sex without putting in much effort or without commitment. These same guys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 10:20 PM |
| 83 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorThere are a lot of women in my life I've met who only dated guys and never participated in hookups or Short term relationships. Not Trad Cons in fact they were very strong willed and successful. They wanted the dinner and decency from the beginning. I respected them because they weren't going to change things up when they had their fun. Their values were their values and they lived by them. I saw a woman on here once say, "Nice guys finish first because they get the long term commitment at the e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 10:08 PM |
| 21 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorThere are different level of attractions that people have. There are guys who are so attractive/charming that they are able to have a lot of sex without commitment. These guys are hookup material and also most often are also marriage material if they have other desirable qualities. In my experience most guys that women want to hook up with have a lot of women that would also want a LTR. There are also women who always have a relationship available to them with desirable guys. They have that comb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 08:40 PM |
| 277 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorI had a buddy in college who could not hook up or date to save his life. Women always told him he was going to make a great husband one day. That is not a compliment that they meant it to be. It meant that they really were not attracted to him during their days they were trying to have fun and be wild. Two of the relationships I had that lasted a longer while and the women reached out for years afterwards were with women that I slept with within a few days of meeting. No dates and no real effort… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 07:19 PM |
| 0 | Misandry is when rich men are exploited by pretty women, while the man gets blamed and the women are unknowing helpless victims.It is always a case by case situation. Situation 1 is a guy who dangles money in front of a woman who cannot make rent and exchanges for sexual favors. Obvious that he is exploiting her. Situation 2 young woman is leading an older man on and milking him for as much money as possible. This isn't a transaction with a price this is someone whose entire goal is to take as much money as possible. She is exploiting him. Also, think about an OF model who charges $15 a month. That seems a fair price to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 01:20 AM |
| 0 | The overwhelming majority of people bitching about or even paying attention to “age gap” relationships are undesirable women and virtue signaling menYou have a really healthy way of looking at it. Not extreme on either end which is rare. Check out the replies in this twitter thread. There are people who are absolutely unhinged about any age gap irregardless of the ages of the couple involved. https://x.com/nickgraynews/status/1818459484185850188 https://x.com/gillianim/status/1818772049822990423 There are a lot of women who are unhappy that men would want to date a 28-32 year old. I think there are legit criticisms when you see a 30 year old… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 01:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?There is nuance to everything which I think gets lost when people discuss gender dynamics. A 32 year old woman who married the 45 year old law firm partner can say her partner's success makes her see stars. Let's do it this way instead. A 32 year old lawyer is in a relationship with a 50 year old law partner who has status more than wealth. What you see again and again is a guy who is divorced with a couple kids in private high schools, alimony payments, child support, and he was cut in half whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Why should money not be a woman's primary concern, if the man in question is like twice-thrice her age, is not the silver fox type handsome old man,ageing like fine wine, and is a cranky, sanctimonious, delusional old boy, who can't see he's past his prime?Women there own age aren't attracted to them??? Also, a 50 + year old guy who is a CEO of a company/partner at a law firm/Doctor/etc. has authority and power. There is a percentage of women (5%ish) who are generally very attracted to powerful men. They would be more attracted to the guy who runs a company and has people who report to him than the same guy if he was lazy and lived off a trust fund. Very small % but it is still a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 03:36 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenMy personal experience is late 20s was when women were more open to 10 years or more. Early to mid 20s were often interested in a quick fling but nothing serious. But obviously that is just my experience and observing how friends/colleagues dated. Dating apps also make it much easier for people to explore relationships outside their social circle. People can date outside their age bracket, race, etc. with much more ease and less initial judgment with the apps. It will be interesting to see the e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 02:15 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenIt very much is not. When I was single on the dating apps I was 43. I was dating late 20s/early 30s. Pretty common. Seeing a 20 year old with a 35 year old guy is much less common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 02:00 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenLol. Very true. I had a FWB that was going around telling people that she was going through a bad breakup when things came to their inevitable conclusion with us. (I did not want a relationship. She did) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 01:52 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenI had a friend who was not incredibly handsome but lived in a great area, had a great job, and had great travel pictures on his profile. He was lining up dates every week and juggling multiple mini relationships. If you are a guy that has some desirable traits dating apps make it much easier than it was to date multiple women and also date much younger if you choose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 01:49 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenAdd in another 7.6% of marriages for 10+ years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 01:46 PM |
| 2 | My unbridled opinion on marriageGoing to disagree with you on your marriage beliefs. Your beliefs probably work for many men but not all. If you wait until you are ready and find the right partner it is one of the best decisions for some people. I was single and dating for a long period of my life. The happiest life I have led was when I met the right person and built a life together. I would say that only 20% of men or so do marriage right. I don't listen to women's opinions at all or men under 25 or men with less than 100k n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/24 08:10 PM |
| 9 | I'm detecting a slight lack of subtletyLooking for older rich men. Using teenage slang, "I stand on business." Just terrible marketing. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 08/05/24 01:35 PM |
| – | A theory: Women don’t get the ick when they’re with men they are truly attracted toI think as an attractive man you can certainly do something that will give a woman the ick. That is one part of the ick. I had a buddy who did really well with women until they came back to his place and saw all of the Stars Wars memorbilia that he had. Instant ick. The other part is that I think women often subsconsciously will try to find an ick when they are spending time with a guy that has all of the characteristics of what society says is a good partner but doesn't have the characteristics… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 01:42 PM |
| – | Man sues 27 women in an 'Are We Dating the Same Guy' Facebook groupI have said this before but the natural evolution of this trend is some men are going to start groups to talk about a womans past. Body count. Have they ever had an OF. Dated a much older guy. Cheated on a partner. It is kind of inevitable and there will be so many false stories in these types of groups. These types of groups where you cannot vet information in an ethical manner and is just based on gossip or trusting someones opinion are bound to have bad outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/24 07:54 PM |
| 8 | Do alpha males ever regret not settling down when they get old?Outside of two guys I know every single guy settled down at some point. Some well into their 40s. Most every guy reaches a point where he wants a LTR. If you are a well off, intelligent and still handsome guy you will have a lot of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/24 01:42 PM |
| 20 | Are guys maturing faster than women in the US and that's a problem?They aren't maturing faster in fact I would say they are less mature. They want a relationship because they are needy and they feel like a relationship will make them happy. Wanting a relationship doesn't make you mature. Being able to be in a healthy relationship does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 11:39 PM |
| 30 | Are guys maturing faster than women in the US and that's a problem?Men in their 20s who don't have a lot of options want relationships. Men in their 20s who have a lot of options either want to be single or are only willing to settle with someone who is a great catch. This is a generalization and doesn't fit for every guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 07:57 PM |
| 7 | The phenomena of single women dating married menA few reasons: The men are probably often highly desirable. Very good looking or very well off or both. The standards for what is a desirable man is high enough that there are relatively few to go around. Couple this that men are less discriminating with who they sleep with and there are going to be guys juggling multiple women. The relationship works for the women because they subconsciously do not want a relationship with a guy who if fully available. I have seen the scenario many times that w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/24 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Do You Know a Guy That is Top 5% on Dating App?I enjoyed dating apps when I used them. I had a lot of dates and met the right person. I am off of them now. Even though I enjoyed them I still had to deal with a lot of bullshit. There are some absolutely shitty people on dating apps that are going to treat others poorly. Unless you are the most coldly analytical person in the world dating apps are going to beat you up at some point. I did a lot of trial and error with my profile. Good travel pictures. Some other pictures as well that I thought… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/24 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why?thats why men tend to be mean/cold torwards ugly women There are definitely some men that do this. Many men have had women who they are not interested in be pretty persistent and many times downright assertive. Usually women they don't deem attractive but the women for some reason think that they and the man are a good match. Many men do not understand the nuance of rebuffing a woman in a polite manner so they get cold. There are also women who pursue aggressively guys who are not remotely attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/24 01:37 PM |
| 1 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?I hit a point where I decided FWB wasn't worth it or fair to the other person. They may say that they were just fine with the FWB relationship but they really wanted a full on relationship. After seeing how upset not going from a FWB to a full on relationship made that women I just decided to try and only spend time with people I could see myself being in a LTR with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/24 02:52 PM |
| 3 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?I'm assuming that you are saying that the women are well aware that men are not in an exclusive relationship with them. Yes. that makes some sense. Also, that they are tired of their friends/family asking them their relationship status with the guy they spend time with so they just say they are in a relationship. I also think just like there are a lot of guys who think a woman that they are just friends with is going to lead to a relationship there are women who think a guy who is sleeping with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 10:34 PM |
| 2 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?There are some women who are in FWB's that would tell people they are in a relationship. I have been in that situation where I was in a casual FWB situation and she considered it a relationship. It wasn't and I never discussed nor acted in a way that would give her an indication that it was. She just decided that what it was to her and got upset when I did not agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 09:17 PM |
| 6 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?You are completely right. If a man isn't introducing you to friends & family while also posting pictures of you on their social media than they do not have the intention to be in a long term relationship. That doesn't need to happen after a few weeks but if you've reached 4-6 months and they haven't introduced you there is a problem. I dated a lot and didn't introduce family or friends to anyone for a very long time until I met my wife. When I introduced her everyone knew it was serious. I also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 09:11 PM |
| 15 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?Either they never have had the conversation and the woman is making an assumption. No conversation on exclusivity. The woman has just decided it is a relationship even if the man has said it is casual or FWB. In my case I had a woman talk about a relationship ending when I would not consider going from FWB/casual to a full on committed relationship. If you asked her we had been in a relationship. If you asked me we never had been. I think she decided that we were in a relationship and didn't rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 06:47 PM |
| 34 | If a lot of men can't get a relationship: Where are the surplus women?There are men who are casually dating or FWB with a woman and that woman considers it a relationship. The man does not. When people say women are sharing men it doesn't necessarily mean that men are dating multiple women at once. It means that a woman may be single for a year or 18 months and that the type of men who have a lot of options are single for like 3 months. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/24 06:35 PM |
| 5 | Why therapy doesn't work for men and trauma dumping clarityI am not going to read your long post but I get the gist of it. I am a guy who likes to workout and has an active social life. I also did two stints of therapy in my life and the direct benefits of each were amazing. It made all areas of my life improve dramatically. I am not a proponent of anti depressants or other meds in 90% of cases. But talk therapy and a healthy lifestyle can really help a lot of people. Men included. There are a lot of people that just go to Therapy and complain. This is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/24 09:32 PM |
| 2 | Phrases such as “Men age like wine, women age like milk” and “The Wall” are nonsensical.Salma Hayek, Heidi Klum, Kate Beckinsale, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Aniston, etc. are like the attractiveness parrallel to Tom Brady or Lebron James. They start out with great genetics and spend 6 to 7 figures a year to keep themselves in amazing shape. Elite dieticians, trainers, plastic surgeons, dermatologists, and every thing else under the sun. Their job is to stay attractive. Comparing them to the average women their age is like the average 46 year old guy getting off the couch and saying h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 10:19 PM |
| – | Money and status and career are not that significant for men (including being rich)Maybe that is your experience but pretty much every guy I have met who is a Doctor was with a woman he would not have been with if he had an average profession. I've met some average looking guys with trust funds who always have an attractive GF. Money = Status if you aren't a fool with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/24 04:08 AM |
| 1 | Women face no significant penalty when dating in their 30sWomen literally just have to give average men a chance and they can get date regardless of their age Add in attractive women and you are right. Attractive/desirabe people will have no issues dating no matter there age. They may not have every option in the world but they will always have many options. The issue for the average woman is that she has a lot more options at 25 than she does at 38 and yet they still are holding out for the super handsome guy who is also a high earner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree with Redonkulas' assessment of what to expect in case of divorce?My father is and always has been an overly cautious person but he is also incredibly logical and rational. Unfortunately I think one of his flaws is that he interprets everything in the sense of what he (a rational person) would do in the situation. He expected her to react rationally. I think his and the adult children believed my mom would act out by playing up being a victim. Which she did. But we thought that would be the extent of it. She had been guilt tripping us all with silent treatment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 07:51 PM |
| 3 | Do you agree with Redonkulas' assessment of what to expect in case of divorce?I witnessed my parents go through a divorce when I was in my 20s so I can comment on what I saw. I have seen people go through divorces where both parties are civil. I think 30-50% of the time you will see some terrible behavior during a divorce. Especially if you are the party who initiated the divorce. Character Assassination- Yes. Completely. My mother attacked my father to all of his friends and family. Made up untrue stories. Told half truths. Tried to turn all of his adult children against… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 02:03 PM |
| 5 | Why do older women not understand that most guys who end up with younger women are just playing the odds?People certainly criticize men who leave their families. (Fairly so) However there are also a lot of men who are criticized for dating/marrying younger who have never been married before. Chris Evans has been criticized pretty heavily for marrying a woman in her mid 20s who is a star in her own right. He was never married and did not leave anyone for her. DiCaprio gets constant criticism for dating young models. (At this point all parties know it is a fun relationship for the woman in their 20s.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/24 03:14 AM |
| 3 | How do you split the finances?Its seems unfair if the net income is 6k a month (him 4, her 2) and costs per month are 4k to have him pay 100%, keep nothing while she keeps her 2k... Both parties should be financially better off after moving in and splitting costs. Obviously this changes if one party stops working for kids or other reasons. In the case that you lay out the costs should be divvied up something like $2750 and $1250. Or $2500 and $1500. You cannot have a situation where the partner that earns less is paying 50% … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/24 02:27 PM |
| 7 | People here exaggerate the hate that age gap relationships get. If you're so sensitive that a few comments get you then don't be in an age gap relationshipSo the way you feel about something and who you are attracted to is the only valid option. Ppl in large age gap relationships are forcing it. I can never connect with guys more than 5 years older or 5 years younger than me. Different people are attracted to different things. That would be like me saying I cannot understand same sex relationships because I am straight. I don't think you can realize how self centered your comment is. You personally cannot connect with people who are older or young… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/24 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Why aren't large age gap relationships the norm?I am really not sure what you are asking it seems like you mis wrote your question. I stated that most guys do not attract younger women as they age. Some do. then how come younger men complain about losing women to older guys often? I am not sure why this is. Could be anectodal. Could be that the older guys who are attractive do connect with a lot of women. Also, what is older. When I was 22 and out in the world I knew women my age who were dating guys a few years older. 27 seems like a big dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 05:16 PM |
| 4 | Why aren't large age gap relationships the norm?If women's sexual market value is believed to decrease with age, and men's increases, Men's SMV can increase if they do the right things in life but most often it does not. A 45 year old guy who is overweight, immature/anxiety , lives in a shitty apartment, and had credit card debt, is not magically more attractive than his 25 year old self. 90% of guys (rough estimate) do not improve with age. But for the 10% who do they usually have more options than they did (with women of all ages) than thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/23 02:57 PM |
| – | Guy asks girl who switches up the deal to leave. Subreddit goes wild.This is a very similar dynamic as men trying to move from just friends into a sexual relationship. They get close to a woman they are attracted to with friendship and try to change the parameters of the relationship. Same thing when a woman attempts to use a No Strings Attached sexual relationship to get into a real relationship. (I'm sure guys have used this strategy as well at some point but I'd say it is at least 90% women 10% men) It is kind of natural and in almost every NSA/FB/Hookup relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/23 05:12 PM |
| 5 | "She cheated on me." Older men with little or no relationship experience should slander someone to claim experience.https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/28/a-record-high-share-of-40-year-olds-in-the-us-have-never-been-married/ In total 28% of men over 40 have never been married and 22% of women over 40 have never been married. Saying that you have been cheated on is just stupid. It is a lie and makes you look like a victim. We pity men who are victims but we don't think they are strong. Eventually most lies come out. Having to continually keep up a lie is exhausting and not worth the effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Turning 30 and worried about losing desirability from men.An attractive person is an attractive person regardless of their age. If you stay physically attractive you will always have a wide variety of options. This goes for men and women. Also I can guarantee you that if guys your own age are not interested there are a hell of a lot of 40 something guys that will be. If you have options now it is a good bet that you will continue to have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/23 06:14 PM |
| 3 | What percent of men are able to date casually or date without the prospect of commitmentBeing able to go on dates with two different women in the course of a 30 day period. Is able to have sex with a particular woman within 7-21 days of meeting her. Is able to have at least 1 new sexual partner in a 12 month period, for every year of not being married or in a committed relationship. 20% of guys if they put in effort. The top 5% of guys can be more choosey with whom they choose to date. They can date and sleep with generally attractive women. The guys in the 6% to 20% are going to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Are men really not attracted to fat girls?I think most men (not all) are not attracted to a LTR with a heavier woman. Not a curvy woman but a heavier woman. Most men prefer fit women with some curves. But there is no line in the sand for what men are or are not attracted to. Some guys love the way models like Ashley Graham or Iskra Lawerence look and others find them to be too big. https://swimsuit.si.com/swimsuit/model/ashley-graham https://www.celebsfirst.com/iskra-lawrence-smiles-enjoys-beach-day-pastel-blue-bikini-beach-miami-florid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Men are shamed far more for being single for life than womenI agree with your statements. The only difference I see is that in OPs original post he was not describing (at least directly involuntarily single men). It sounded from his post he was describing men who were being shamed for not wanting to date and/or having preferences. I just have not experienced a lot of men being treated this way in my time in the dating world. Nor does it sound like you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/23 01:50 PM |
| 5 | Men are shamed far more for being single for life than womenI'd say it is the exact opposite. I know a lot of guys who are single or have been single forever. Nobody makes a big deal of it. These guys date, travel and generally enjoy life. Whereas women past a certain age who are single start to get a lot of sympathy and worry from the women in their social circle. When a man says he wants to be single for life, for whatever reason, the insults are near limitless. Don't say it unless asked. And even at that point just say that you will see in the future … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/23 08:11 PM |
| 1 | The SAME man can be a nice guy to a woman and a f.boy to another womanPlus, men lose their attraction once they feel they have conquered a woman. It's all a slap and a kiss with men Depends on the woman. There are women who men lose all attraction to once they have sex with them. I'll say that for a lot of men they have no clue that they only wanted sex with the woman until they have had sex with her. There are also women who men get crazy about once they had sex with them. They want a relationship with them quickly. Same guy could sleep with two different women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | The SAME man can be a nice guy to a woman and a f.boy to another womanThere are women who a man looks at as someone who they are willing to sleep with (or FWB) but not ever consider a LTR. There are also women (a much smaller %) who the same man will try to date and get in a LTR with. There are a small % of women who men just line up to try and date. Not lining up to try and just sleep with them. The ones who are manipulative and play games get weak men who they can control. Shitty partners who no one should want for a LTR. A lot of so-called nice guys are nice gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 01:46 PM |
| 7 | CMV More and more young Men are realising that Looks is the Number 1 Factor for Dating Success in a developed Country. Its actually kinda crazy if you compare it to the old days.Can confirm. Physical attraction has always mattered. Every good looking guy I have ever met has had a ton of options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of the very common idea of "any woman who rejects you because of your height is a shallow woman who is not worth it anyway"?People have preferences. It sucks. A five foot tall woman who is attracted to a man but has no idea how tall he and refuses to date a man she initially finds attractive when she finds out he is 5 foot 10 and not six foot is shallow. A woman who was never attracted to a guy because he is not tall enough for her has a brutal preference but it is what it is. It sucks for the guy and he could be missing out. There are many men who will not consider a woman for a relationship if she has kids or is pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/23 04:38 PM |
| 4 | Women judge men based on how popular they are with other women which leads to a cycle where a few fuckboys get to pump and dump many womenThere are guys who constantly date women in similar/same social circles. Some of this definitely has to do with status. There are guys who always in a relationship or juggling multiple FWB's because they either fit a lot of criteria for what someone is looking for in a relationship (handsome, successful,charismatic,etc.) or they are either incredibly physicall desirable or incredibly well off or have some other type of outlier trait that makes them very attractive to the opposite sex. There are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/23 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Most college aged women do not want 30+ year old menA very small % of 20 year olds have a trust fund. An even smaller % have access to it. To be in the top 1% of the country you need to have a net worth of around $10-11 million dollars. Most people that achieve this do so as they get older and their investments have compounded for years, they have sold a small business, real estate,etc. So their kids are well past the age of 20 when they first get access to real money. The amount of 20 year olds who have real wealth at their disposal is less than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/23 09:23 PM |
| 7 | Women who are "done with shitty men" have helped create a whole new class of fuckboys by having "situationships" with a minority of men20 to mid 30s. Focus on finding a woman to have children with when they don't want to party anymore. Roughly Half the men it will be a woman around their own age and the other half of the men it is with a younger woman. Most guys I know who were running through women in their 20s to their mid 30s have settled down and are faithful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 07:57 PM |
| 3 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesI'm observing that men are obsessed with what women think about them, not having sex with a guy is enough to corrode his confidence. Depends on the guy. Most guys I know were always pursuing multiple women. Being rejected by one of them wasn't a big deal to them. Also, once you have had enough partners as a guy you really stop caring that some people are attracted to you and some are not. What you write about is very different than my point. You are writing about pure rejection. I am writing a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/23 01:24 PM |
| 9 | Men who are so worried about a woman not having the same standards for every man are hypocritesNeither scenario that you described is going to make people feel happy. Men are not going to be happy if they have to work much harder for sex with a girl they are going to have a relationship with than some other guy who just wanted sex. Women are going to hate that they are the type of women who men will sleep with and meet for drinks but will never take for dinner or consider a relationship with. It kind of is part of the same vicious circle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?That is a very specific situation and it sounds like a very weird individual. But that really has nothing to do with shaming men for dating younger women. It has to do with an asshole being an asshole. I have preferences when it comes to dating as well but I don't need to write an essay to make others feel bad. Whether it was about age, weight, racial preference, etc., it was a dick thing to say. Every successful man I've ever met who is dating a younger woman doesn't talk about it. (outside of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 10:39 PM |
| 5 | Why does this sub look at men willing to date single moms so negatively?I am asking, why would you look at a man who is dating a single mom and go "oh he is a red flag!" It is a shame tactic to try and control behavior. If you shame men for dating single mom's (most likely coming from the hardcore RP space) or you shame men for dating younger women (feminist space) what you are really trying to do is influence and or control behavior of not just that person but more importantly other men. I get the warnings to men who are inexperienced and can not vet a situation pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/23 08:24 PM |
| 11 | How do you explain most young women being in relationships?2. Many women say they are in relationships when in fact they are actually still in FwB, FB or ONS status. This happens quite often. I had a woman write a post on IG after I would not go from FWB to relationship with her that she was sad that a relationship she was in was ending. What men consider a relationship and women consider a relationship is often greatly different. 3. Many women are in relationships with men way older than themselves (20% of women have marriages with men who are 6 years … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 07:01 PM |
| 12 | How do you explain most young women being in relationships?IT has to be an exaggeration but your overall point is correct. There are guys at every type of gym that absolutely clean up and sleep with many female members. I was a member at a Crossfit for about two years and there were 3 trainers there who were all sleeping with multiple female members a piece. In gyms with a social aspect like a Crossfit or Orange Theory there are always a few guys (mostly the guys who work there) who are cleaning up with the female members. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/23 06:54 PM |
| 2 | If you were to move in with a guy that makes significantly more than you, would you be okay with splitting household expenses roughly 50/50?Either way works and the couple should decide. In the scenario I laid out the couple will both be saving on rent and utilities/expenses. That is a win/win. Like I said earlier having the higher earning member of the couple pay more makes a lot of sense if rent is $5000 (higher) instead of $2800. They should pick up the majority of the difference. Most important is that the lower earning member of the couple should not feel financially stretched by moving into a new place or because they are dati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 04:21 PM |
| 1 | If you were to move in with a guy that makes significantly more than you, would you be okay with splitting household expenses roughly 50/50?Hypothetical: If you are both paying $1500 a month in rent before you move in together and your new place costs $2800 a month than you shuld both pay $1400. And split expenses. If your guy makes significantly more and he wants to move into a new place that is much nicer he should pick up all or the majority of the difference. When one partner is able to afford a much nicer lifestyle (and that is how they want to live) they should not be financially stressing the partner who makes less. However, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/23 01:22 PM |
| 2 | Why can't people just be honest with men when it comes to online dating? You aren't getting 0 matches because your pictures are bad, you're getting no matches because you're ugly.Women have very high choices for sex but the majority of them cannot achieve a relationship with the small % of men who they will have sex with from the apps. It is detrimental to their mental health in a different way. They believe that the guys who are one night stands, FWB, or stringing them along is who is in their dating pool for a long term relationship. These guys are most likely not interested in a long term relationship or if they are they interesed in a long term relationship they are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/23 07:25 PM |
| 6 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastI was comparing the insecurities that accompany a threesome vs feeling angry/insecure that your partner had a wilder sexual experience before you but wants a more vanilla sex life with you. I don't think anyone should be entitled to recreate anything. But I think many will question why their SO would want to have a wider variety of sexual experiences with someone else. We all want to be treated as good or better than any of our SO's previous partners. Sex for many people and I'd say most men is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:52 PM |
| – | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastThe bottom line for most people that I know is that they want the same level that other people received. If my partner had brought a cute friend of hers for a MFF threesome in the past I would want the same thing. It is the way most men I know are wired. They need to know as the relationship guy that they are having as good or better sexual experience than the FWB. I get that it can lead to insecurities but it would lead to insecurities as well if you are in a deeper relationship but someone els… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:34 PM |
| 14 | Your SO is not willing to do something sexual with you that they've done in the pastThis makes a lot of sense. Nope. This would not and should not fly. If someone is having threesomes w some guy they were having random hookups with than their serious BF should expect the same. If you are willing to be a LTR with someone you want at the very least the same level of sex that previous partners received. (Caveat being the issue you mentioned in part 1) This is really vague. But makes sense and really would not come up in 98+% of situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 03:42 PM |
| 1 | 70% of all younger woman are in relationships where as only 30% of younger men areMany different reasons. Women in their mid to late 20s dating older. Some men juggling multiple women. I know women who I was in FWB with who were telling people we were in a relationship. Which was news to me. Men and women have different definitions of what they consider a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/23 06:51 PM |
| – | Why do older women (35+) raise their standards and think shaming men their age into meeting them or dating them will work?I would say that women have different standards as they reach certain ages. Since you are using 35+ I will go with it. (But it isn't a strict age. Could be early 30s or early 40s.) In generatl they want a more stable relationship and a man that is willing to commit to them in a fully monogamous relationship. Also, to connect with them emotionally and to be willing to settle down. They also want a man who has a career and has good long term financial prospects. These are good standards to aspire … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Woman Claims It’s Hard To Get Sex, Is That True?She says that she would only target the top 30% of men and was picky. The top 30% of men that she is around. This could (probably does mean) the top 5-10% of men. Also is younger an 18-22 year old guy who is perpetually horny who would jump at the chance to have sex with an attractive 35-40 year old. Or is younger that she is 55 and wants to sleep with a guy 30-35. Those 30-35 year old guys can be a lot more discerning and also not want to feel old themselves. Could she find a guy. Yes. Would it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Women would be straight up miserable if their partner refused to have sex with them, yet because it usually happens the other way around they find excuses that sex is not importantIn another post I mentioned that most men who get married think it means steady access to sex. Some people were offended by it and said it's shallow , the most important thing is companionship etc. It can and should be both. Great companionship and a healthy active sex life. If it is just one of the two it means that the relationship really is not going that well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 02:32 PM |
| 1 | Lauren Sanchez , Jeff Bezos new wife, shows that looks at the most important thing in maintaining a long term relationship with a man.If it was just about looks Bezos would be dating a 30 something actress or model. The vibe that Sanchez gives off as you note is sexy girly vibe. I bet she also has the charisma to make Bezos feel like the man. I can assure you that she treats him in a different way than his wife who was with him for almost 30 years and well before he became one of the richest and most powerful men on the planet. I'm not saying he deserves or doesn't deserve that treatment but he certainly craves it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/23 02:28 AM |
| 16 | Women Admitting That Their Promiscuous Pasts Prevent Them From Enjoying Sex With Their Husbandsthat the more premarital partners a woman has, the more likely she is to report low marital satisfaction, the more likely she is to cheat, and the more likely she is to divorce/leave. I would add to the fair point (that I agree with) you made about people not liking a downgrade is that the type of person who had a lot of partners before a marriage is probably wired to need many partners. Without a variety of relationships and sexual partners they will be unhappy. They want the benefits of a rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 06:47 PM |
| – | If you want happiness, marry a mid. Many high profile men, like Jim Caviezel do it. Jason Momoa did itSo just by being a healthy weight, women such as myself are already above average. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sIf you saw my posts in this thread my whole point is that there is a middle ground between men being sold the fantasy of sleeping with 100's of drop dead gorgeous women when the man hits thirty because women like older guys. Which is BS. But also there is this doomer narrative that men who are socially awkward at a young age really cannot improve their lot in life by a lot or make themselves more attractive. I have changed zero narrative because I said in my posts I don't buy into that RP narrat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 01:49 AM |
| 3 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sThe fantasy of having a better dating pool when you're older and successful, and specifically being able to date women who have things you don't (looks + youth) is fundamentally a 'you'll be sorry!!!' fantasy of rejected young men. For so many men it is not a fantasy. They have a better dating pool at 30 or 35 than they did at 20. Good job. Confident. Well traveled. Better Wardrobe. Decent but not excessive gym routine. Well read. Those are attractive qualities. When it's brought up to women, it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 07:48 PM |
| 7 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sYour story is what younger men need to hear. Not the RP/pick up guys who are selling a hollow dream. Nor the flip side of the coin which is OP who is trying to tell men to give up and accept that they will never attain a life that really isn't that rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 06:10 PM |
| 2 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sOP frames it like every guy thinks that they hit their 30s and magically start dating 19-21 year old IG or OF models. Which is just not the case. I have not seen a guy go from undateable to having every option in the world. I have had friends who struggled with women in college and were socially awkward build a nice life for themselves and have a lot of dating options. But it came with time and work. I feel like I see a particular type of person (usually a younger woman) who hates the idea that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 06:08 PM |
| 11 | Men, How Did You Find Dating REALLY HOT Women? How Were They Different From Other Women?I saw this in the business world. I knew a moderately attractive women who was in charge of building a sales staff for an investment product. Every women she hired was incredibly attractive. She straight told me after a few drinks that she hired hot women because she knew no man would ever say no to a meeting request. That sales force printed money. The women in charge admitted that most of her sales staff really weren't that qualified but she did not care. One of the funniest effect: a lot of o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 02:54 PM |
| 5 | Men, How Did You Find Dating REALLY HOT Women? How Were They Different From Other Women?I found that incredibly attractive people and incredibly rich people usually have some disconnect from the way the world actually works. An incredibly attractive person has been treated differently for a very long time period and doesn't understand that the life they have access to is not normal. Crazy behavior is more tolerated when you are incredibly hot or incredibly rich. So that behavior can grow more out of control if more people are willing to tolerate it. A crazy person who has nothing t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 02:48 PM |
| 30 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’s95% of guys who work on themselves, stay in shape and build a nice financial life (savings/career/investments/etc.) will have better options at 30 than they did at 20. Better options with women their own age and younger women. Do I think an ugly 20 year old guy is going to become a super good looking guy who is dating IG models with 250k followers. No I do not. But I do know that an average guy who has no confidence and no social standing at 20 years old will have a much larger pool of women to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 02:40 PM |
| 4 | To the non-red pill men, do you agree with the notion that women ‘age out’ of their prime by 25? Why/why not?The percentage of women who are attractive from 18-25 is higher than the percentage of women that men find attractive of any other age group. But that is the group as a whole. An attractive woman is an attractive woman regardless of her age. Attractive women (who are also pleasant to be around) are never going to have a problem getting attention from men. They may not get attention from as many men as they did when they were younger but they still will have an incredible number of dating options… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/23 03:41 PM |
| 1 | The real reason for forever girlfriend / f*ckzoned womenI'd say that your reasons may apply in the minority of cases but in the majority the relationship would just end. Here are some not all reasons IMO for this dynamic: The guy is somewhere on the avoidant spectrum and isn't currently capable of a full emotional commitment. Although he thinks he is. He thinks/knows that he can do better. He enjoys the sex and companionship but eventually wants someone he is a better fit with or he finds more attractive. Also, he may have someone in mind he is waiti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 08:09 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: What do you think of men who want you to sign a prenup before marriage?If the proper steps are taken and documented it makes it much harder for the court to throw out a prenup. Both parties need independent legal council and obviously the prenup should be signed way before the wedding date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What do you think of men who want you to sign a prenup before marriage?The thing with a pre-nup is that it doesn't necessarily mean that one party gets nothing. It means that in the case of a divorce the asset split is pre-negotiated and a group of lawyers shouldn't be able to bill hundreds of hours to get each member of the couple less. (Although people often do hire divorce attorneys out of pure anger.) A good prenup would be seperating assets when the couple gets married and having a fair calculation of how any assets acquired during the marriage will be split. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 05:59 PM |
| 9 | What do you think about the increasing stigma over SMALL age gaps? How is it going to affect the dating market for young people?40 and 20 for a LTR is weird. 35 and 20 is weird. 30 and 20 is weird. But none of the age gaps you mentioned feels off on their face. 23 and 19 is for the most part two college undergrads (or mone recently graduated person from college getting together.) But it really depends on the two people. Among sane people I don't think this has any staying power. Most sane people don't even care about Chris Evans dating Alba Baptista. Or Nick Viall dating his GF. They get it why both adult parties are int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging.If you were unattractive at 20 you're not going to just become a woman's fantasy on your 30th birthday. There are men who look like they are 14 when they are 20 and look like adults at 30. Also some guys take awhile to fill out and put on any muscle. Yes there are men who hit college with a permanent five o'clock shadow and the frame of a grown man. Those guys have probably hit the peak of how they are going to look and attract women during that four year stretch. (And what a time to hit it.) Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 08:37 PM |
| 14 | Are forever girlfriends another category of women?But there's lots of people you can be content with, but you're mismatched and will never feel fully able to commit to because there's a big box that can't be checked. After a few years these types of relationships tend to get rocky because of lack of long term commitment. The relationships often tend to unravel when one partner is having all their needs met and wants the commitment and the other party is not. You just often need to pull the plug much much sooner. And people don't because we're f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 04:11 PM |
| 10 | Are forever girlfriends another category of women?Many different aspects to why this happens. One aspect I have seen is that as I got older the terms of the relationships I have been in have been much better. More respectful and generally better for both parties. I see so many relationships where the couple got together younger and they still have remants of how they were when they were in college or their early 20s. Usually from a guys perspective this means he is being treated in some ways as a less mature version of himself. And probably def… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 03:48 PM |
| 27 | Are forever girlfriends another category of women?This was exactly my experience. I dated someone for 4 years and the first 18 months were really good but the relationship never deepened and never evolved. I started to realize that we were very different people with very different goals in life but we kept trying to make it work. (Which was a mistake.) The way we communicated and the pace of life that we both wanted diverged. It took me being out of the relationship for me to fully realize just how incompatible we were for a long term relations… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 03:40 PM |
| 42 | Has anyone else noticed a lack of "mixed gatherings" post Me too?Lockdown You are getting older and people do not socialize as much in their younger days. Every five years or so I noticed my social world change. The younger people you speak of have been raised in such a different online world. You don't need to go out every night on the weekend to be entertained. Streaming content whether it be Netflix, twitch, etc. has been a game changer. The attractive women that you speak of don't have to go to a bar or bbq anymore in hopes of meeting a guy. They just ope… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Men using women for their bodies is basically the same as women using men for their resources (money, status, attention and so on), in terms of how it feels.Being used in any fashion is terrible. I'd also say that generally when two people are attracted to each other it is not being used when they have a sexual relationship. They both may have different expectations of what it means to them and those expectations will surely change as the relationship progresses. Being used for resources is a different animal. When a resource is gone it is gone. Money spent is gone. More money can be earned but that takes effort. Time, effort, and money spent with n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 02:34 PM |
| 1 | It is commonly stated in the ‘manosphere’ that men’s SMV peaks later in life. PPD men over 30, have you actually found your overall value to increase as you’ve gotten older?Yes. Completely. Also how women view me. When I was in my mid 20s to 30 women were interested in casual and hooking up. But not a relationship. Once I hit mid 30s I was constantly getting the where is this going talk from any women who were FWB or hook ups. I also had a much larger pool of potential partners. From mid 30s to early 20s when I was in my mid to late 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 02:25 PM |
| 12 | The majority of younger women (18-24) are NOT attracted to old men 30+So yeah stop proclaiming your preferences when they are not reciprocated. Lol. Don't have preferences guys. OP gets to have preferences and prefer a certain type of man but you don't get to have preferences. Swiping on 30+ year old's guys on tinder elicits zero attraction in me as a 21F whereas 21-23yr old's I see many guys I'm attracted to. She speaks for all women of course. Her preferences in dating are true for every single woman her age on dating apps. Just like every single guy has a singl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/23 06:55 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Why some women have a problem with age gap relationships and why men seek themI know a lot of men who can and do date younger women. (They also date women their own age.) It is pretty common to have those opportunities when you are financially successful and in shape. The one thing these guys do not do is brag about it. They just don't bring it up. Very few people ever ask or care about it. They just keep their lives moving and date who they want. When you don't make it an issue most people in the real world just don't care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/23 02:36 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Why some women have a problem with age gap relationships and why men seek themIt is weird to see a 40 year old in a long term relationship with a 19 year old. (Hook ups who cares. We cannot judge those.) But a 40 year old with a 28 year old is just dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/23 02:28 AM |
| 8 | Would you date these "overweight" women?In person is such a different experience than pictures. I think I would base it on would I like pictures of them on a dating app and try to connect. #8 I definitely would. The rest are perfectly attractive women and I may be more interested in if I met them in person but I don't think I would connect with them on a dating app. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/23 03:00 PM |
| 7 | Why do overweight women have such an easy time getting sex, but a very hard time finding a relationship?I feel bad for her. It is obvious that the situations that she finds herself in are never going to lead to a relationship. She needs to switch up how she dates. Sometimes she'll tell me about how she dated a psychiatrist for 6 months, but when I hear more about it, it was just uncommitted casual sex is all...not really dating This seems to be somewhat common. People claiming to have been in a relationship when it was just FWB or very casual. I had a woman do something similar. She wanted to move… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/23 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Got a window into average woman's dating life. It was an absolute shock25y/o. Cute and slightly overweight. She is 25 and cute. Men of all ages are willing to hang out with her for shorter term relationships. If she has her age range much wider she will have guys in their 30s,40s, and 50s, who are willing to take her out to dinner for a night or two because that money means absolutely nothing to them. The issue is that most women do not want to meet random guys and spend time with them and maybe jump into bed with them right off the bat. Because she is so available… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 01:33 PM |
| 20 | Reasons why older men date or hook up with younger womenIf you are in the top 5% of desirable people for your gender it is not hard to find people of all ages who would like to date you. An attractive 33 year old guy who is a top 1-5% earner is going to have options with women his own age and also a smaller % of women who are 22-25. If you are a guy who is 40-45 and has a lot going for you it will take effort but you can find women who are 27-32 who would like to be in a LTR with you. Anyone who says that women are lining up to date older guys is ful… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 08:53 PM |
| 1 | What would a Red Pill alternative from a leftist perspective look like?What viable message have the others articulated? They haven't articulated a viable message on how to live in society which is exactly what I said in my comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 05:52 PM |
| 2 | What would a Red Pill alternative from a leftist perspective look like?I don't think there has been a redpill personality that really has gained the level of popularity of the people you mention that has articulated a viable message. Much of their messaging is dogmatic and unflexible. TBF it is the pendulum swinging back against the leftist/progressive messaging that has alienated so many young men and matches the hardline those ideas take. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/23 02:22 AM |
| 12 | What would a Red Pill alternative from a leftist perspective look like?The left or progressives could not do it. The best that someone can ask for is a centrist almost politically agnostic group of leaders who tried to connect with young men. You need to be honest with them which I don't believe the left would be willing to do. You also need the young men to believe that what you are recommending is in their best interests. Progressives would want young men to be allies and foot soldiers for progressive causes who do not get their own needs met I think some of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/23 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Having different sexual partners on a regular basis is setting yourself up to be a cheater. Agree or disagree?Nope. Most of the group of guys I am friends with were pretty active hooking up and having many sexual partners before the settled down. (Every guy I hung out with has been well above the average partner numbers that get pushed out.) With the exception of one guy I know who was in a bad marriage every single one of them has been faithful when they settled down. At a certain point in life you get more fulfillment from a committed relationship with a great woman than chasing hookups and flings. IM… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 02:08 PM |
| 3 | How are short man supposed to date?29 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 05:33 PM |
| 29 | How are short man supposed to date?I’m 5’1 and prefer guys over 6’0 ‘’ I dated a woman who was 5'0. She asked me how tall I was after we had been hanging out for a month. She said she thought I was 6'1. Told her I am 5'10. She paused for a few seconds and said she would make an exception for me because she only dated guys 6 foot plus. Lol. She couldn't even come close to estimating my height but she had a height requirement. Dating is wild. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/23 01:46 PM |
| 3 | Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding.Anyone that young men or boys are going to be drawn to as someone who has good advice is not going to be approved by feminists or media members. They want men to be foot soliders in building a world that doesnt' benefit the vast majority of men. This old quote comes to mind, "Hound follow those who feed them." Large amounts of young men and boys are never going to follow or listen to someone who doesn't either give them a compelling vision for their future or at least give them an honest assessm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 01:20 PM |
| – | Relationships with big age gapsProbably because you feel like she isn't mature enough for you. I was in a situation where a very attractive woman who was 23 or 24 was interested in me. Super book smart but really had been sheltered her whole life. Needed to grow up socially. It just felt off and I was very nice to her but kept my distance. Trust your gut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 09:15 PM |
| – | Relationships with big age gapsDepends on the age and age gap. A 30 year old guy dating a 25 year old is no big deal. A 30 year old guy trying to seriously date an 18 year old is weird to me. A 27 year old dating a 22 year old doesn't move the needle IMO. Once someone hits 27ish I say all bets are off. Don't care if they date a 27 year old or a 60 year old. It just doesnt bother me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 08:51 PM |
| 4 | What do you do when 'Chad' starts flirting with you and you are in a relationship? How do you feel?I'd say higher than a 6 howerver I am not going to argue that point. (In general I think % rankings make a lot more sense than numbers.) However he is better looking than at least 90% probably 95% of men. Which really isn't that impressive when it makes you realize that out of ten men there is one better looking and out of 20 men there would be one better looking for him to be in the 95%. Thinking of the men walking around in the world that is not exactly incredibly impressive but he has still e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 06:13 PM |
| 2 | In the Old days the Redpill claimed that "Game" was the most important thing, in my observation the Manosphere transitioned hard to Looks/Money/Status maxxing theory, why did the Manosphere abonden game?App based dating whether it be through dating apps or something like IG has changed what it takes to succeed. Game/personality/etc. mattered more before apps. I do have friends who did much better than men who were better looking and more successful when they met women in person. On the apps he did much worse. Game worked for a short period of time before society caught on to it and just called the people doing it douchebags. Neg's were a big thing before people caught on to them. I'd see guys p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Are hot women in their 20s actually interested in men in their 30s?I think the issue is that we also take what people say as face value. We all have private lives and these private lives are often vastly different than what is portrayed to the public. I've known guys who everyone thinks are the model husband who were carrying on multiple affairs through women they met at conferences. Almost no one is going to admit to living a lifestyle that their peers disagree with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:53 PM |
| 2 | Are hot women in their 20s actually interested in men in their 30s?Women aren’t a monolith. This is the answer and I have used the same word to describe peoples preferences. I found 15-20% of women I met have been open to dating or preferred dating men who are somewhat older. 10-15 years. That is a big enough % of women that if you have your shit together you can date younger even if the vast majority of women prefer to date men their own age. Also you probably have no idea about the whole sex lives of the women you’re thinking of, but that’s just an assumption… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 02:35 PM |
| 5 | How would you feel if your long term boyfriend had a personal "# of blowjobs before cohabitating" rule?I would think it is incredibly juvenile. The main issue that needs to be dealt with is the fear from the BF that he is going to enter into a one sided relationship again. Where the focus is on his partners needs and not both of their needs. The BF has had a really bad experience and they need to feel secure that this will not take place again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/23 04:27 PM |
| 34 | Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Why?This is definitely a piece of it. In the past I definitely had women I just hooked up with a few times refer to us having been in a relationship. Average age gap is 3 years. True that is the average but you still have 10-20% of women who are dating 5-10 years older. It would especially make sense if mid to late 20s women are dating slightly older and those guys were in their early 30s. That is when a lot of men I know started seriously looking for a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 05:04 PM |
| 5 | I don’t think dating gets easier for men in their 40’s and beyond.There is a consensus in the RP community that men age like fine wine and are more desirable in their 40s and beyond - particularly to women in their 20s. IF you are a guy in his 40s who has kept in shape, aged well, and has a good deal of disposable income you will have more options on average than you did in your 20s. Those options include women in their 40s, many women in their 30s, and a smaller % of women in their 20s. This is a relatively small % of men. You don't turn 40 and co-eds start t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"I said people need to be realistic about who is available out there. This is a universal thing. Women looking for men who have the characteristics I described are much like men who think they can find a 24 year old gorgeous virgin who is going to be incredibly sexual with only them. Both need to be realistic about what is available in the dating world and get their ego out of the way so they can be open to a good partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 07:51 PM |
| 4 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"I think it is a bit more complicated. I think it is an issue of being realistic instead of "not settling." I noticed when I was on the dating apps that there were seemingly a lot of women who described that they were looking for a successful educated guy who was also going to support her reaching her goals. What I was reading was they were looking for a Vice President to their President of the relationship. I have no issue with this. But I do think it is unrealistic to find a motivated, successf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:50 PM |
| 6 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"It is the framing of a complicated issue as being very simple so that she can push a political agenda for governments to direct more resources to a group that she favors. There seems to be a growing sentiment amoung many people that the policies of the Dem party in the US are more advantageous to single women than any other group. (Not sure I agree but I can see the argument.) I'd also say that the author maybe should have examined whether the men are not Mr. Wrong or if they are just Mr. Not-Go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 04:43 PM |
| 17 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.https://news.ubc.ca/2012/01/23/monogamy-reduces-major-social-problems-of-polygamist-cultures/ https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war "Wherever it is widely practised, polygamy (specifically polygyny, the taking of multiple wives) destabilises society, largely because it is a form of inequality which creates an urgent distress in the hearts, and loins, of young men. If a rich man has a Lamborghini, that does not mean that a poor man has to walk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 02:35 AM |
| 2 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'Some men with a lot of options will always choose to date younger. Some men with lots of options are open to their age, younger or older. Ultimately arguing about what men or women who have a lot of options in who they date is never going to change anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women do not naturally desire older men; they are forced to settle for them; and have a strong preference for men their own age.I think you have a sad view and somewhat slanted view of relationships being more transactional than anything else. There are definitely men who get taken advantage of by women and definitely men whose women cheat on them. Both of the guys you mentioned were easy marks. I will reiterate if you are a desirable person that you have options among many different ages. 50year old guy dating a 36 year old isn't that weird if he is handsome, interesting, and successful. The bigger the age gap, the high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Women do not naturally desire older men; they are forced to settle for them; and have a strong preference for men their own age.Dating a stripper is going to do that to you. As is providing a lifestyle for someone who is not living with you in a committed relationship. I feel bad for anyone who gets taken advantage of but this guy did it to himself. People in the top 5% (Maybe 2%) of desirability are going to have a lot of options regardless of their age. A good looking man or woman who is successful is going to be able to date a wide range of ages. (Not every person they find attractive but a good deal.) I found some yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:13 PM |
| 11 | No, the 80/20 rule does not existThis is from a since deleted but archived blog by Hinge. I don't think women are evil or malacious. I quite enjoyed Online Dating. But dating platforms, mobile tech, and attitudes around dating, having made it so smaller % of men are getting more and more dates/sex/relationships to the detriment of other men and ultimately to some women who feel burned by the guys who are non-commital or juggling multiple partners. It makes sense that this would happen for a number of different reasons. https://… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them.I think you are speaking from how you feel. You obviously feel stronger about this than most people do. Which is fine. Your experiences and what you are looking for in a partner is going to vary from other people. One of the things I experienced as I got older was that definitely 85 to 90% (estimate) of younger women I came across did not give me flirting energy or any type of connection like when I was their age. However, there was 10-15% of younger (single) women who were very interested in me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 03:32 PM |
| 5 | Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them.33 and 26. Come on. This is ridiculous. This is just normal dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 03:20 PM |
| 4 | Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them.This isn't an age gap relationship unless she is 18 or 19. 10+ is where it starts to become an age gap relationship. I knew multiple women in college who once they were juniors or seniors started dating men who were 5 to 7 years older. They had fun for two years and wanted out of the party lifestyle. Nice women. They were my friends and I definitely didn't have my shit together enough to date them. Guys at 25 to 27 were one level ahead in life (early career level) and that is where the women fel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 03:17 PM |
| 6 | Do men view 30 year old women as too old for relationships if their ultimate goal is marriage and children?My experience is that once men hit a certain age over 30 or 35 (and this is men who can be choosey about relationships.) about 50% date around their age and 50% younger. The issue is not that there aren't men who are interested in women their own age. It is that of the relatively low percentage of men who are desirable for relationships a good % of them are looking for someone younger than their age group. There are a lot of desirable successful men who are 38+ who would love a 30 year old GF/fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 05:24 PM |
| 5 | in some parts of RP and BP circles there is this belief that women ‘share’ the top % of men - where does this idea stem from?With cell phone technology, Online Dating, and the societal standard of keeping things casual for longer periods of time, sharing isn't a surprise. Also, there are guys who are never ever single. Even if they are monogamous, they hop from one girl to another. The women don't overlap but they certainly share. And hook up culture. Very small % of guys really get to actively participate in hook up culture. So a higher % of women is hooking up with a smaller % of guys. Thus in a sense they are shari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 12:29 PM |
| 3 | If women approached men more, would there be less men identifying as incels?It would be the exact same outcome as an Online Dating site like Bumble for men. Relatively small % of men getting almost all of the attention. And yes asome men who were decent catches but not getting much attention would be approached by some very low value women. But they would probably prefer to be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 06:26 PM |
| -7 | There is nothing wrong with a promiscuous guy wanting to settle with a virgin.In my experience it is the opposite. The guys I know who are married and who slept with a ton of women beforehand are more devoted/committed. They have slept with enough people to not think the grass is greener as a single man. They know that a committed relationship brings them more happiness and calmness in their lives. (There are of course guys who can never be faithful but still want marriage. They usually do so much cheating that a relatively small % of them come into contact with a lot of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 03:10 PM |
| 1 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneI edited my post and added "not waiting around for sex." I missed that incredibly key word when typing quickly. Which completely changes my post. My point was I have a lot of women friends who I am friends with but not trying to sleep with. Most I would not sleep with if offered to me. Some I would (if I was single.) Probably 90% no 10% yes. But it is not something I think about at all with them. But this is a very different situation than OP describes and than the emotional vampires that I have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 03:39 PM |
| 1 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneI have had many women that I am close friends with who I was not waiting around to have sex with. So does almost every single guy I know. It was a fair and even friendship. I have also had women I know (and seen it with other men) who attempt to fulfill relationship and attention needs that go beyond a friendship. This is common. Especially when people are younger. I fell into this trap when I was younger and naive. It is also hurtful. There are selfish people out there who are manipulative (bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 02:50 PM |
| 5 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneI have observed the pattern that I describe above a number of times. I think there are a subset of people (maybe 10-15% of the population) who are users. They tend to attach themselves to others and create unfair relationships. Men who are susceptible are usually the ones who are unable to express what they really want out of a connection with other people. They become attention vehicles and give a lot of emotional support. They can become really bitter because of this. Women are often susceptib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 02:04 PM |
| 126 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneThere are a subset of people who are definitely like this. There are people who are not able to be in a real committed relationship. (Avoidant personalities often and other issues as well) Many younger people cannot handle this as well. I was definitely someone who could not handle a committed relationship when I was younger. So they have seperate people meet their emotional intimacy needs and sexual intimacy needs. The women that you are meeting are getting their needs met by seperate people. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 06:10 PM |
| 2 | Men don't age like wine. Stop being delusional.I have a very similar experience. Probably 50% of the women I have met who are in the their 20s would not date a guy who is older than they are. (Could be 5 years or 10 years.) You can tell pretty quickly because they usually fall into a few different types of woman. I'd also point out that there are exceptions. If Chris Evans rolls into a bar there are a lot of younger women who would change their tune. About 30 to 35 are open to dating older men but it is really situational. The most interesti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 02:01 PM |
| 2 | Do you think women place the same rules on ugly guys and attractive guys?Of course they have different rules. Just like men have different rules for attractive younger women and older women. Women do it around sex and men do it around relationships. Just the way things are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 06:07 PM |
| 3 | What even is the "friendzone"?When most people complain about the Friendzone they are complaining about a pseudo relationship they are having with someone that has no physical component but an emotional. They are fulfilling some emotional need the other person has and most likely giving positive attention. I think many people have friends of the opposite sex. Even those they find attractive. But they don't have an emotional component to it. And they do not feel used. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 12:22 AM |
| 2 | The RP/Manosphere is making the Beta Bucks an endangered species and many women are going to be screwed.It is taking a small chunk of guys who could be considered BB. But there will always be a large enough % of men who are more than happy to be fall back plans. It hurts less desirable women because it will limit their options. They will still have options but not as many. The flipside is the ever increasing number of men who have been taught by society and their mothers what they should want out of life and not to actually do soul searching to find out what is best for them. Encouraged to not hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 02:24 PM |
| 5 | The just world fallacy that good looking men never struggle to get their equivalent can easily be disproven by pointing to the countless heartthrob male celebrities who date and marry women older and less attractive than themSmall sample size of guys who made different choices. Look at producer Andrew Form. Dude married Jordana Brewster had kids and amicable divorce. He just married Alexandra Daddario. He is 15+ years older. Look at Leo. Jack Nicholson. Alec Baldwin. Clooney. Brad Pitt. Billy Joel (look at his dating history.) Ryan Reynolds. The list of famous/rich men who date/marry younger women is infinitely longer than the list of those who date older women. The media just likes to signal boost older women/young… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 04:05 PM |
| 2 | The just world fallacy that good looking men never struggle to get their equivalent can easily be disproven by pointing to the countless heartthrob male celebrities who date and marry women older and less attractive than them"The just world fallacy that good looking men never struggle to get their equivalent" That is their choice. Any of those guys could date a young IG model, fashion model, younger actress if they so choose. None of them would ever struggle to find a younger incredibly hot woman. At the very high end level men hold the cards. IG models slide into Pro athletes, actors, and celebs DMs. These dudes just made different choices. Also, Cannon is legitimately crazy. I'd get him off this list. Gosling I un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 03:59 PM |
| – | Do you agree with the right to have financial abortions ?Agreed. I don't think there is any way to completely even things out. The opt out is a good idea but I do think that marriage should prevent it. It wouldn't be a policy dealbreaker for me if married me were able to opt out. If there was a pre-marital agreement where it was included that they did not plan to have children I think that would be a good compromise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 03:44 PM |
| – | Do you agree with the right to have financial abortions ?Agreed. Although I would throw in that married men could not opt out from a child they were having with their wife. Also, if men at any point had started to consciously attempt to have a child with a woman they cannot opt out. This wouldn't be I cannot wait to have kids with you in the future, it would be they discussed and began to try to conceive a child together. No one gets to have cold feet after they have conceived in this scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 01:39 PM |
| 3 | Is not wanting to get married always a red flag? What if we’re both childfree?Maybe he seems like he would be a bit averse to the commitment of marriage. His parents are divorced, hence his apprehension on marriage as an institute. My parents went through a bad divorce. It made me question marriage. Lots of reading and a good therapist to work out the issues caused by a mother who had some serious issues helped. Also, as I got older so did seeing the models of good marriages instead of my parents dysfunctional marriage. What might help is discussion of a fair prenup. What… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.Agreed that the vast majority of people under 27ish are discriminatory about age. But it doesn't really matter because say 20% are not. That 20% is where age gap relationships will come from. I'd also say that a 30 year old man dating a 23 year old woman is an age gap relationship in my eyes. A 40 year old dating a 33 year old is not anything special. The majority of people date in their age range, education level, within their race, etc. But there are enough outliers where it becomes something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 03:00 PM |
| 2 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.I think that is a mostly fair assessment. Although I know guys who have hit the gym, dressed better, and made some cosmetic improvements who have done better when they were older. But I do think it is something that men should be warned about. I jumped in the thread because there seems to be this belief by many that no women will date a guy when the guy is older than her. Like I mentioned earlier in the thread it is more nuanced than the people who scream old dudes clean up with women or the one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.Moderately. I shot myself in the foot a lot and never understood when a woman was interested in me. Also, I was a bit needy in my late 20s. I wasn't when I was younger or older. That neediness repelled women. Women wanted to hook up more than date me earlier in my life. Fun but did not have my shit all the way together. Moderately successful but not stable. Now I am much more stable and I find more women want relationships. I've definitely had more success as I've gotten older. Stable. More conf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.I think the stats I put in my post agree with what you wrote. Although it does seem that there are a fair percent of marriages between people who are 6+ years older. I will stick with my point. I think the majority of women would like a guy closer to their age but there are enough women who are open to dating older men that if a man makes himself valuable he will have options open to him as he ages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/22 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.That's fair. Although it seems like that is what most of the red pill dating coaches preach as well. In fact I think a lot of these dating gurus set the bar so artificially high for men on what it would take to date that it causes anger in these men. If you think that you as a 40 year old have a chance with the average 25 year old woman just because you are fit and have a full head of hear and you have amazing "game" and you're sexually experienced, you're going to be in for a rude awakening. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 11:24 PM |
| 7 | Age is an incredibly important and overlooked part of attractiveness/value.I'm mid 40s. My GF is 29. I dated 26-35 the past two years when I was on the OLD apps. . Three relationships I have been in were 29, 31, and now 29. The women I dated I met online. All of them had a ton of men in their dating queues. I hit it off with them. Especially the one I am dating now. I was not the chooser in any of these relationships. They all had a lot of options. We live in a large metro area and it is a very competitive dating market. I look young for my age (hold on. I'm not using … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 10:31 PM |
| 9 | 'Too many muscles is unattractive' is a crockIt is a % thing. If 1 to 2% of men (or fewer) reaches this body type and 5-10% of women find this body type attractive than these guys will always have an attractive GF to choose from. Same thing when you realize that not every woman is a "size queen" (in fact the vast majority are not) but that there probably is a higher % of women who are size queens then there are guys who fit the bill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 10:53 PM |
| 2 | What's your opinions on 40 year olds sleeping with 20 year olds?Lol. Some women like older men. Some women don't. I'm in my 40's and I have more opportunities with women in their 40's, 30's and 20's than I did when I was in my 20's. Successful women who don't need a damn cent from me. They do appreciate how I treat them, that I am stable, confident, and well read. I also know that there are a whole lot of women who don't like what I have to offer. And that is fine as well. There are types of women that I am not attracted to and would never date, yet a lot of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 03:58 AM |
| 23 | Unironically claiming to be an “alpha male” is patheticHaving to tell someone what you are or what you bring to the table, usually means that you don't have those qualities. A rich person doesn't have to tell you that they are rich. An attractive person doesn't have to tell you that they are attractive. I've never met a very intelligent person who is constantly telling everyone how intelligent they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, would you leave a 7 in looks who you loved and had other shared interests/ values with, for a 10?No. When I am attracted to a woman and connect with her on many different levels I become incredibly bonded with her. The women I have been incredibly attracted to in my life are not ever the ones who would be considered the most physically attractive out of the group of women I was around. They were certainly attractive but there were always more "physically attractive" women I could have pursued but chose not too. I also think this has to do with a few factors. One, is being able to be introsp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/22 03:37 PM |
| 3 | Are attractive men not looking for casual sex so rare?But what about attractive men who don't want casual sex and are interested in a relationship and love? Are there really so few that it doesn't affect the statistics at all? They are usually in a relationship with a very attractive woman if they want a LTR. So there aren't a ton of single attractive men who are looking for relationships. Do you know attractive men around you who wouldn't have a problem having casual sex with many women, but just don't want to? Yes. I know some who are very select… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 04:23 PM |
| 0 | It seems like the core of the issue in dating is that men want women who are more attractive than themI don't think this is the biggest issue. Not even close. But in general everyone is trying to date out of their "league." "After a month of observing, they found most online daters tend to message people exactly 25 percent more desirable than they are." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/singles-date-people-25-percent-more-desirable-study_n_5b734950e4b0df9b093a368b Also from personal experience I am most attracted to men in my looks range or slightly more attractive than me. I say this in the nice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 09:15 PM |
| 4 | New article finds that apps like Bumble have women feeling dismissed and dejectedThis very well could have something to do with women only messaging a very small % of guys they come across. I'd imagine they message a smaller number of men than the number of men they would reply to if messaged. Everybody knows the data about messaging rates and like rates on dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, and OK Cupid. I don't think I have seen them published by Bumble. (Smart business move but shitty for daters.) I'd imagine that women connect with an even lower % of men on Bumble because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/22 03:12 PM |
| 3 | I see huge parallels between dating and the Great Resignation.Having the right partner is one of the best advantages you can have in your life. Having the wrong partner is one of the worst things you can have happen. You have to be very careful who you choose to have in your life and evenmoreso who you choose to marry and have children with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | I see huge parallels between dating and the Great Resignation.Thank your parents. There was a very high % chance that you would be anchored down by those emotional problems for the rest of your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 04:35 PM |
| 1 | “ I would have never went out with him if I did not meet him in person and saw his profile online”.Connection is so different in person. Most people have their idea of what they want in a partner on paper but that goes out the window when they connect with someone IRL. Also, men will throw out likes for a lot of women. Women they never intend to meet or women they are intending to just have a sexual relationship with. If a woman has a bunch of handsome & successful men matching with her she is not necessarily going to give guys who aren't as desirable a chance like she may IRL. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 08:39 PM |
| 3 | Two PHD's Discuss How Human's Select and Keep Romantic Partners: Pretty Much Confirms Red Pill Logic So FarWe are on the same page. When the age issue comes up it seems that often people want to make bad faith arguments about men wanting extreme age gaps as they age. Which just isn't true the majority of the time. But those extreme age gap arguments allow them to paint any man who says he would be open to or prefer a younger partner in a bad light. When I've presented the logic from the podcast in an argument (which for any guy who has been around for awhile is pretty obvious) they usually deflect or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:14 AM |
| 2 | Two PHD's Discuss How Human's Select and Keep Romantic Partners: Pretty Much Confirms Red Pill Logic So FarThe Age Gap Marriage portion is one that I hope more people listen to or understand. I have had a number of women want to discuss/debate this with me. They tend to frame it as men who date younger want to always date the youngest mate possible when thus is just not the case. Men prefer younger, the age of whom they prefer increases as men get older, and the age gap increases as well. For example: 30 year old wants 23. 40 year old prefers 28. 55 year old wants 38. (Most cannot achieve these outco… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 03:04 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?One of my best friends. He has consistently pulled women way out of his league. Not just for one night stands but for LTR's. The people that have known him for years (especially women) cannot understand it. It took me a long time to understand it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 04:54 PM |
| 3 | What's wrong with the age gap really? Older, successful women can not get the men they want, because men chose younger women, and don't care about their success.A few points: If men date younger, 30s women can just date 40s and 50s men boom problem solved. Try telling a successful 35 year old Type A attorney that her options are men 45 and up. She probably wants a guy who is 34-42. Whom she finds attractive. It is an accepted fact that women (in general not every woman) want to be in LTR/marriage with a man who is as successful or more successful than she is. Her pool of people to date is very small. Now take into account that the type of guy she is int… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 12:05 AM |
| 16 | What's wrong with the age gap really? Older, successful women can not get the men they want, because men chose younger women, and don't care about their success.I think that the vast majority of men who date and don't just talk about dating understand that they are not going to have the options to date in a way that Leonardo DiCaprio does. (If they don't understand this they are delusional.) Nor do I think that guys who are 40+ really want to get into serious relationships with women who are in their early 20s or younger. The quickest way to cure a man who is settled in his life from wanting to date a 21 year old is to actually date a 21 year old. (One … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 09:50 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?One of the major issues that I have with people talking about dating/relationships is that we talk about it in such binary terms. 0 or 1. Very black and white whereas I think it exists in a vast grey area. I do agree that there is a revenge fantasy in some of the dicussion about women hitting the wall at a certain age. I also think it is for many men just an appreciation that things have become slightly more even from a desirability perspective as we age. I think dating can be tougher for women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 03:09 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?I'm in my 40s and I match with women from 26 to 29 all the time on Bumble. I'd say a quarter of my dates from OLD have come from women in their 20s. The other 75% from women between 30-35. I went on a number of dates with a 27 year old last fall/early winter before quarantine restrictions were heightened again in my area. She was great. The other person I was seeing very nicely said we either needed to be seeing only each other or we couldn't date because we needed to limit our circles with Covi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 02:45 PM |
| 1 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?I think Red Pill has some good basic advice for men. Getting in shape, working to become financially successful, and most importantly I think they are really educating men about identifying and disengaging from the 10-15% of women who like to take advantage of men for attention, money, etc. If you put in the effort I think most men can attract a good mate. However, you are right that 98% of men do not have the ability to have the results of the type of guy you mentioned above. That is where the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 02:40 AM |
| 2 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?I think most people discuss age gap dating in the wrong way. A 32 year old dating a 20 year old is much different than a 42 year old dating a 30 year old. When someone hits late 20s or older age gap relationships IMO are just relationships. Yes if you see a 75 year old guy with a 31 year old woman I'm pretty sure that is a money thing. But a 45 year old with a 30 year old is not something I even raise an eyebrow about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 02:29 AM |
| 5 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?For the most part yes. App based dating has changed this a bit. It used to be that if you were in college you were completely self contained. In your own eco system. Probably for the best for college aged kids social lives. But if you go to a University in a large city which many people do, app based dating has given a lot more options. I live in the DC area and there are a number of universities in the city. I'm too old to date undergrads (I'ved dated grad students) but I know guys well past co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/21 02:16 AM |
| 41 | When it comes to dating/relationship/sociosexual dynamics, what's something you see talked about in this sub that you've never seen actually happen?I think there is some nuance to it and the older guys who are talking about men 35-50 having dating success are selling something where they take it too far. I don't think the average 40 year old guy who has his shit together can date a woman in college. (Nor should they want to.) I do think a guy in his 40s can date someone 8-12 years younger. 15 if they are 45 and she is 30. The problem is when they create some kind of fantasy that college aged women are going to fall at their feet like they a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/21 02:33 PM |
| 2 | Women, what do you think WE get wrong about you?I did not say that I am not attracted to women who are my own age or older. I "tend" to skew younger when I date. However, I also tend not to be attracted or connect with women I meet who are in their early 20s as well. So I am not having a race to the bottom age wise. As I mentioned I think this is because I find this age range to have people who I find very physically attractive and who I connect with mentally. There are of course exceptions. Probably 10% of the women I meet who I am very attr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Women, what do you think WE get wrong about you?I am in agreement with you that attraction for me is certainly based more than just on appearance. As it is for most men and women after they hit a certain age. For me deep attraction to someone has always been based on more than is that person hot. But lets take a step back for a moment. Maybe we are using the term differently but "The Wall" as I've always seen it used is about pure physical attractiveness. That is what I was reacting too when I typed my answer. And it is the reason that I used… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 02:56 AM |
| 1 | Women, what do you think WE get wrong about you?The wall is not a myth. For men or women. The hardest I have ever seen someone hit the wall is a guy I knew. Guy went from a handsome youngish looking guy to a grizzled looking mess in one summer. Very few women look as good at 40 as they did at 25. Very few men look as good at 40 as they did at 30. (I'm making the assumption that they did not lose a ton of weight or have some type of cosmetic surgery.) I'd also agree with you that women can still get men to settle down after 30. But later 30's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 01:13 AM |
| 3 | Most marriages ending in divorce are happy until a sudden, abrupt event triggers the breakdown of the marriageAt the time the relationship ended she was 27 and I was 34. I should have added context that the relationship slowly evolved to the spot it got in. I got so busy with work and life that I didn't notice how much I was giving versus how much she was giving. When I did, I tried to course correct, went through the hard process of realizing it was over, and eventually broke up. I will say it was a good lesson and I have never let a relationship even begin to get to that place again. I'm much more con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 08:57 PM |
| 10 | Most marriages ending in divorce are happy until a sudden, abrupt event triggers the breakdown of the marriageMy ex's requests were getting odder and odder. She at one point requested that I take up certain hobbies. While I was still telling her that she had to deal with her anger issues and some other basic relationship issues. It was crazy. I finally told her how crazy it was that she had changed nothing and I had changed so many things that at this point she was just making odd requests. Finally broke up with her. She told me it was unfair that I broke up with her because we should have discussed it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 06:54 PM |
| 7 | Most marriages ending in divorce are happy until a sudden, abrupt event triggers the breakdown of the marriageI also think people have to be rational about what are fair changes to ask of someone. I think asking a partner to pull more weight around shared living space is very fair (obviously depends on divistion of duties in the relationship) or to work on any anger management issues. But to ask someone to change something about themselves is not. You have to know your partner and realize that some things are just outside their personality and are not going to happen. If those things are dealbreakers th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 06:39 PM |
| 15 | Most marriages ending in divorce are happy until a sudden, abrupt event triggers the breakdown of the marriageSounds like a long term relationship I was in (5+ years). My ex would tell me what bothered her and I would work to change. I told her the things that bothered me and they never changed. She promised they would change when we got engaged/married. Every time we would have a state of the relationship talk she would have a new list and mine would be the exact same. I don't think this is necessarily as gendered as everyone thinks it is. I broke up with her because nothing ever changed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 06:09 PM |
| 6 | Many women remain single because commitment-orientated women outnumber commitment-orientated menPretty much every guy I have ever met in my life was willing to commit and has committed when they find a woman they really like. However, all of these guys have been willing to also engage in short term sexual relationships or non-committed relationships with women whom they would never consider for a long term relationship. I fell into this type of behavior for a few years after I got out of a LTR. I'd keep things casual with a woman who I was not interested in a LTR with. No commitments and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 10:22 PM |
| 6 | Has modern activism dismantled men's standards?The issue is that the men you describe (and I was guilty of this in the past) are often willing to casually date and sleep with women who we would never consider to be potential long term partners. With app based dating it will probably only get worse. It sucks for these women as well. They raise their standards to the type of men they can sleep with is the type of man that they can secure a LTR with. Which oftentimes is just untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 03:27 PM |
| 1 | Has modern activism dismantled men's standards?I personally feel external pressure from a few women I am friends with about my preferences in dating. I honestly don't really speak to them about who I am dating anymore or about dates I've had. It just isn't worth the hassle or judgment from them. I think you raise a really good point and I do think that we live in a world where women are encouraged by their friends and society to know their worth and to not settle. Whereas men are often criticized for the preferences we have with dating. I'm … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 03:03 PM |
| 4 | Does this post show dual mating strategy and the guy's repulsion towards it?(Copying in italics what I posted on another reply) I should first point out that maybe I should have been super clear that I am stating a growing trend I've noticed. Not advocating for it one way or the other. It isn't a right or wrong statement it is this is what is happening statement. Simple answer is that if that bothers you than you shouldn't settle down with that guy. Everyone in dating has a preferences. I think it is healthy to acknowledge our preferences and why we have them, to possib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 02:27 PM |
| 8 | Does this post show dual mating strategy and the guy's repulsion towards it?I should first point out that maybe I should have been super clear that I am stating a growing trend I've noticed. Not advocating for it one way or the other. It isn't a right or wrong statement it is this is what is happening statement. The internet allows people to compare notes and come up with theories (right or wrong. I mean we have people who are adamant that the earth is flat because of theories they read on the internet.) . I have no problem with hook up culture. It has been good to me. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 02:16 PM |
| 29 | Does this post show dual mating strategy and the guy's repulsion towards it?I think it shows that there is a growing number of men who are unhappy with hook up culture and women having party years where they date/sleep with men they aren't really serious about and who often aren't good long term prospects. Just hot or bad. They resent that they are the stable option. Right or wrong I think this cultural phenomenon is only going to continue to grow. It seems like it becomes more widespread every year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 12:23 AM |
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