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Well you said it right there, chad and tyrone are the gatekeepers of commitment. I see a lot of beta guys that got absolutely 0 attention from women in their younger years marrying the first 'acceptable' woman that gives them any attention ever once they are in their late twenties.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 11:37 PM
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average men who actually get laid doesnt exist. Rest of your argument is pointless since people don't NEED anything in the west anymore, so it's a useless platitude that ends reasonable conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 04:08 PM
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I didn't agree to jack shit, I was simply born in this misandric society and forced to grow up here. I can't live off the grid in this country because the police will arrest me and throw me in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:33 PM
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I blame men mostly for the empathy/sympathy gap. A STEM university in my country (netherlands) (90% male) refuses to hire men, because there's a 'lack of diversity'. The guy that decided for this sexist female quotum is a male. The politicians that allow for blatant anti-male sexism like this are male. Same with sooo much legislation in my country that is completely pro-female and anti-male. It's disgusting. Women refuse to have sex with me because they don't like my facial bone structure, fine.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 03:10 PM
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Look at maslow's hiearchy of needs. Love and belonging are the most important after physiological needs+security. And those last 2 are guaranteed for both men and women by the state in western society. So no i disagree, whatever women have to deal with in life, they are still privileged to have love and belonging handed to them with 0 effort, just like security/physiological needs are handed to both men/women in the privileged western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:20 PM
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Chess And somehow men completely and utterly destroy women in chess anyways. Women have an advantage compared to men in academics, but somehow in the top-end again you only see men. Women simply lack a drive or motivation to perform at their best, since everything is generally handed to them by men for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 11:20 AM
7

Seen it many times with girls not being able to find a guy that lives up to the chad they fucked for 3 months, a year ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:13 AM
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Plenty of women stay single for extended periods between short failed relationships with men above their league. Thereby 1 man can 'occupy' many women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 12:50 AM
4

I disagree. The difference would at the very least become a lot smaller, leaving more men with a fighting chance. A 5'2 balding indian stands completely no chance at all against a 6'4 broad shoulder chad. Like he wouldn't even register as a human being in the eyes of women. As a result, the balding indian likely doesn't try much at all anymore, due to always being rejected and never being sexually desired. If everyone would be 6'4 broad shouldered chads, everyone would at least have a fighting c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:14 PM
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Yeah, if you get at least some succes every once in a while, you are likely to keep putting in some effort. But I know many men around my age (24yo) that have never had much success and the longer you go without success, the less effort you start putting into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:12 PM
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Yeah, I never take these 'porn addict' complaints from women seriously. Thinking men spend more than 15 minutes/day watching porn is idiotic, so how the fuck would this interfere with socializing lmao. That lillithbabylon person is low IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/20 09:08 PM
1

It's pretty easy to become a school teacher here in the netherlands and the pay is not great, very uncompetitive work aswell. It is in no way compareable to something like doctors\engineers\lawyers, etc. Same with nurses. It's all very average and bordering low class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 09:25 PM
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This world exists and it’s called Manhattan Idk how easy it is there, but you are claiming the average man doesn't struggle and not all avg men live in manhattan. I could also say that avg men don't struggle, because 'look, all these thai women in bangkok want to hookup with me and im just avg!'. broad extended-social-circle drinking, parties, art / film events, and occasionally Tinder ?? The average guy barely even gets matches on tinder, let alone having them agree to meetup and go for drinks …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:49 PM
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They are porn addicts!!11! the average guy spends 8 hours a day watching porn!@!@
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:20 PM
3

This. This whole post is one big LARP. He even added that he wears thick glasses. Women would laugh in his face if he dared to approach them at a club or bar here in the netherlands. I've seen it happen so many times. The fact this obvious LARP gets so many upvotes just shows you that people love to think a world like this exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/20 02:18 PM
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Right so what's the point of this post? Everyone is getting objectified, men just as much as women. If anything the maker of this post is complaining about extreme privilege and its neglible downsides. If you are being (sexually) objectified it means you are good-looking and receiving all kinds of benefits from that. I have absolutely 0 empathy for good-looking men and women complaining about getting 'too much attention'. If it was truly so bad: I have never heard of people trying to make themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 11:07 PM
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Left my abusive household and then lost weight, lost acne, lost shit haircut. Ugly people have no idea how much they are being discriminated against untill they see the other side of what it's like to be above average instead of ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:53 PM
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yeah it happens all the time. Not cashiers or janitors, but more like school teachers or secretaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 10:48 PM
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Can we culturally normalize being depressed and unhappy in life? We could simply lower life quality expectations and then nobody would be unhappy anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:17 PM
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Because all you RP men are clamoring to become fathers? Yeah. I am not RP, I am blackpill. Unfortunately to get a quality woman you need to become attractive with many women first. Women want players that become exclusive just for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:14 PM
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'blah blah blah, dateless men are a non-existant minority internet problem only' meanwhile in real life: https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047 " Norway can, in other words, be a country where many men never father children, even though its fertility rate is high. What actually happens often is that men who are already fathers get recycled. " chad is getting recycled, while beta's pay taxes to have chad's children educa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 06:10 PM
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I have mostly experienced 'Sally's' as female friends aswell, even when they were in committed already, they would still try to cockblock me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:25 PM
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Everything you say can be applied to women just as much. When I was an ugly guy, women didn't want to be my friend, didn't laugh as much about my jokes, didn't respect me for my accomplishments, etc. All they saw was a sexually unattractive man that would mostly induce feelings of disgust when being looked at. Both genders completely and utterly objectify eachother. You have only 2 kind of people, people that admit they do and people that don't admit it. Women more often fall in the category of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 02:09 PM
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This. Are women retarded or what?! Asking for permission is like the biggest beta faggot shit you can do during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:56 AM
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Men are just doing what women want, women are the gatekeepers of sex afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:55 AM
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That is extreme and if a woman is asking for that in bed she probably should be in therapy. most girls should be in therapy then, brutal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 12:50 AM
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Luckily we have lube and no I won't educate myself on women's anatomy and sexuality, because whenever I have done that I have only been dissapointed. Take AF/BB for example, female sexuality is not something you want to dive deep into as it is immoral and unethical. It has made me understand why it was supressed in the past for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:47 PM
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Why would a woman's vagina be dry during sex? Is she a porn addict that cant get aroused by normal sex anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:22 PM
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every women I have had so far has wanted PIV. You are the anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:22 PM
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My Country https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/maternal-mortality-in-the-united-states/ right so 0.016% chance. irrelevant. Idk why you are bringing this up. All of this because they squeeze another human being entirely voluntary. You are not entitled to having children. Abortion is an option, birth control is an option. Stop crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 10:21 PM
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to dying. My country: "Since 2007, the figure has even fallen to fewer than five maternal deaths per 100 thousand babies. This is the equivalent of fewer than ten women per year dying from complications during pregnancy and childbirth." Please go and cry me a fucking river. 0.005% chance on death for a woman during childbirth. The only one here that is confused is you for bringing in these ridiculous bullshit arguments. You are low iq, go back to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:44 PM
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Imagine having all the privileges in sexual selection that comes with being female and not selecting for a partner that's willing to make you orgasm. Laughable really.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:46 PM
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As long as you keep believing that most men aren't willing to do 'those other ways' of getting a woman to orgasm, then I yeah this is the fake reality you think you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:41 PM
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Yeah, apparantly even the virgin girls I have had know this 'act'. Delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:38 PM
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Imagine believing in some sort of conspiracy where my LTR's would repeatedly go through minutes of trembling and shaking, moaning and even tell me how good it felt multiple times, just 'as an act'. also, sorry your body is broken bro how come? can you be more clear instead of being unable to communicate properly like normal english speaking adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:33 PM
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Since when is sex PIV only? Are you making up definitions?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:31 PM
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Doubtfull, women have so much sexual selection power they would have no trouble finding men willing to make them orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:30 PM
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If women don't like penetration, why do they complain so much about men cumming fast from it and instead they want to be thrusted for longer?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:29 PM
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Men already have other names for women that can’t get wet No idea what it is, but if men not being able to get hard equals porn addict in your eyes, I guess it's just another meaningless word then. Since the 2 aren't often correlated tbh. and they won’t hesitate to drop you if the sex sucks. Not many men can afford to refuse boot-calls, even if the sex is mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:07 PM
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Yes, because men have feelings and empathy. Most men don't enjoy having sex with a woman that doesn't seem to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 09:03 PM
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Why would you not stop during it if it hurts? Also strange how I have had more than 10 sex partners and I have never seen this before. I don't think it is as common as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:54 PM
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True, so it's not always good for men or for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:53 PM
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Yeah and men can't be anxious, tired, not in the mood or be intoxicated?! Just proves my point of the expectations put on men during sex. Might aswell call any woman that can't get wet for me a porn addict. That's how ridiculous this sounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:53 PM
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I am not discussing this non-existant argument any further. My LTR's have had no reason to fake or lie about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:51 PM
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Seems like a decent mindset. My problem might be that I care too much about the women I am sleeping with. You can't put in too much effort into sex as a man, because the reward is simply not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:50 PM
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Right, but women have no problems getting new sexual partners and finding one that can make them orgasm at which point sex becomes waaaay better for women than the man involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:48 PM
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Lots of men don't get to practice much so that's very understandeable. Women have an easy time getting new sexual partners if they want one that can make them orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:46 PM
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It is far harder for women to orgasm than it is for men, it also requires more foreplay. In this sense sex is worse for women, because PIV sex isnt a reliable way to have an orgasm. Yeah but sex isn't just PIV so I don't see your argument there. The fact it's harder for women to orgasm just puts even more pressure on men to make it happen. Besides, women dont NEED to orgasm to enjoy sex. I have had women tell me that many times. But the moment they are able to get orgasms during sex, it's 100 ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:45 PM
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Yeah sure, but men experience such things aswell. Going down on some women can make you throw up, some women have no idea how to give blowjobs or handjobs and it actually hurts, etc. Sex is definitely not 'always pretty good' for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:39 PM
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I've never heard a man complain like this about sex but it's possible that some men just don't enjoy it very much and you're one of those men. This might be what makes you feel as if you're getting cheated. Nah it's a lot more common than you think, but men don't like to talk openly about not enjoying sex. Pregnancy is a very large risk/responsibility. Low risk with modern birth control, and even then it's also a big risk/responsibility for the man involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:34 PM
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Exactly this. I have even heard women call men 'porn-addicts' for not being able to get instantly hard without any foreplay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:33 PM
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Yeah I guess women always faked the shaking and trembling for minutes just to give me the false idea right? Whatever you say bro
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:31 PM
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No, more along the lines of: Men put in more effort, risk more, and receive less (pleasure) compared to women. During the events that lead up to sex, the sex itself and the aftermath.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:19 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:18 PM
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Why? I have sex with a woman and the moment I cum it feels good for 3 seconds. Meanwhile I have a girl shivering and trembling for minutes next to me in bed. How are our orgasms even compareable in enjoyment? Women should be happy that men are giving them orgasms, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:18 PM
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Right. Not every woman even likes long PIV sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:16 PM
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Women can orgasm through other ways, why do they feel entitled to orgasming through PIV necessairily? Also how women can give long enough blowjobs for a man to come solely through that? That's also not a huge amount in my experience. I don't see your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:15 PM
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I don't need to 'prove' anything. I gave my arguments of why I think I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:11 PM
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That's what this subreddit is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:10 PM
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How would sex for a woman be 'horrendous'? A woman doesn't have to necessairily orgasm to enjoy sex by the way. Also how can sex for a man be 'always pretty good'. A man not being able to get hard due to anxiety/alcohol/drugs/having dumpsterdived too hard, means it's over before it even started for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 08:10 PM
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And men aren't able to birth children on their own. Women refusing to have children because of ambition is on the rise. Kind of a bad thing for men that want to be fathers. The stats show that female choice to remain childless only went from 10 to 13 percent. It doesn't account for the huge discrepancy in the male change compared to the female one. I think you have a too glamorous view of single parenthood. Why not: because it sucks. Sure, but it's a good gamble to take nowadays if that's the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/20 12:00 AM
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Looks aren't the only factor, but if you are below a certain treshold of attractiveness then it truly is the only factor. And even beyond that treshold, which a lot of men won't even ever reach, looks still remain an important, but not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 11:37 PM
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I am assuming you replied to the wrong post? Not sure how this applies, elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 11:28 PM
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I'd say that the men having kids benefit greatly from that. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047 The share of men who are childless at age 45 rose from 14 percent in 1985 to 23 percent in 2013. The share of women who had not become mothers by age 45 increased from 10 percent in 1985 to 13 percent in 2013. Norway can, in other words, be a country where many men never father children, even though its fertility rate is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 11:24 PM
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Because every other personal life choice that means you need medical attention is something that you get paid leave for? should be removed aswell. It's a different way of thinking certainly. But society by large disagrees with that way of thinking and it's a different argument altogether. True. Which is why I personally don't like 'society'. Because it doesn't benefit me personally at all. Which is why they get maturnity leave in the Netherlands. Because then they get paid by the goverment and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 11:11 PM
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In the Netherlands dads get 6 weeks in total. Not yet. Only half a year from now will this take into effect. And that is still total discrimination against men since women get 4 months. Amazing how this misandric government gets away with such regulations. Same shit with the age you are allowed to retire in the netherlands. The government says they link it to life expectancy, but then refuses to seperate for men and women. And women live 3 years longer than men on average, so they get to leech s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 10:09 PM
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Hmm? he was a total incel in the first season. Didnt see the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 10:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPYCtErvMyA Fuck Society
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:58 PM
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Even some of the most 'progressive' countries like mine, the netherlands, have 4month+ maternity leaves. While men get just 2 days off lmao. That's already a difference of 5daysx4weeksx4months-2days=78 days just 4 months after a child is born. As a father you sacrice more for children than a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 08:57 PM
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Yes, your confidence is directly affected by being better-looking. Because you sense and see that you are treated as more valuable and are respected. better posture has little to do with looking good when you face is filled with acne, when your jaw is recessed, if youre fat, etc. People will just hate you more for it. They say kids are the most truthfull. You have no idea how many times I was told as a child things like: 'you act way too confident compared to how you look' 'don't think you can a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 07:52 PM
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Since I got better-looking, women are flirty and touchy around me and making it easy for me to approach them. If you know women want you sexually, you become confident around women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:17 PM
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Absolutely not. Looking back at my own childhood, being a really ugly child, girls were already treating me with disgust and making absolutely sure I wasn't feeling comfortable around them. That's before the age you even start thinking about girls sexually, but was obviously even more amplified afterwards. Confidence is the result of sexual success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:03 PM
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I really wish I was a woman and didn't have to be thirsty by instinct, forced to compete harshly with other men or suffer greatly. Women have exactly 0.0 empathy for the men failing to compete and dropping out. It's a brutal world out there to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:01 PM
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as in, without physical attractiveness it doesn't even happen. So any other aspect is irrelevant since the physical attractiveness barrier (top 10%) is by far the hardest to pass and most meaningfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:25 PM
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But you are right in that if someone did check all the other boxes but wasn’t attractive I wouldn’t want NSA sex with him. Enjoyment of sex is definitely not just about the physical attractiveness of the partner ok
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 03:28 PM
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Women like attractive men. If a physically attractive man is 'damaged' he is still attractive and will be selected for by women. I don't think being damaged on it's own is an advantage though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 01:28 PM
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Depends on how much such a physical trait defines you ofcourse. A red-haired man with a red-haired woman would be looksmatched in hair since it is very uncommon, but for a brown haired couple it's pretty irrelevant since so many people have brown hair. So more aspects come into play. And yeah, a freakishly tall man would be looksmatched with a freakishly tall woman. But if they are both just regular tall, it becomes sorta less relevant again and you look at other aspects of their looks aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:28 PM
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fat man, fat woman. fit man, fit woman. skinny man, skinny woman. acne-face man, acne-face woman. unkempt hair man, unkempt hair woman. etc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 06:21 PM
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it doesn't mean anything really. Looksmatch just means they are matched in how they look, not that they are in any way matched in how much power they hold in (getting into) romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 03:53 PM
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Face>Body. Every man knows that. Now what is a man more likely to do. Double Jaw surgery with a hair transplant and fillers, or go to the gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/20 01:15 PM
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you type like a retard
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/20 12:13 PM
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Most guys I know get ghosted within 3 dates if they don't escalate to at least a heavy make-out session. If a girl waits more than a month with sex with me, I am assuming she doesn't find me attractive and just sees me as some sort of beta to settle with. If I 'commit' I will have sex a few times untill babies come out and then end up in a deadbedroom. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 09:52 PM
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I was told that women like smart men with ambition and a good carreer. I was very sceptical since I struggled hard in high school already, but I was told 'high school is different, just keep grinding and you will win in the end'. That's how I ended up as a 23yo virgin studying applied physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/20 12:38 PM
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A) Ah you are one of those people that then also thinks intelligence and IQ are not correlated. 'muh social intelligence' 'muh emotional intelligence' No point in any discussion on this topic in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:33 PM
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Worst advice. It is well known that intelligence and education are unattractive to a majority of women. Notonly do intelligent people have a delayed onset of sexual behavior, Half Sigma found that they also have a lower number of premarital sex partners throughout adulthood (18-39). https://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:24 PM
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Large majority of men are 'beta'. If more men would be alpha you would just have constant wars and violence, it can't exist unless you want a civil war.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:56 PM
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? women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 09:47 PM
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Thus making an 9/10 into an 4-5/10 Male model transforming into a below average schmuck because he wears an ugly t-shirt and his hair is a mess?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 02:02 PM
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Yeah, men are told a lot that they should focus on money/status and that caring about looks is something women should do. Atleast that's what I was told. Horrible advice because looks are just as important for men as for women. I was obese as a kid (shit parenting) and lost the weight in early adulthood. I got lucky having decent bone structure underneath the fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 11:19 PM
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I assume you are a woman. Most men don't have as much of a need as women for bullshit materialistic spending to enjoy their life. Especially not if you are going to live a single/bachelor/mgtow lifestyle. It's also good for the environment and it leaves you with way more time to spend doing the things you actually like instead of turning in at a cubicle 8:30AM every morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 03:46 PM
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I am holding mostly $BECKY. Should I be worried
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 08:24 AM
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Most redpilled/blackpilled men like myself refuse to become wageslaves to a society that hates us. Financial independance is the only alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 02:08 AM
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So then why do women always complain about tinder being a hookup app and not being able to find relationships on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 01:52 AM
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No I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:51 AM
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In the actual studies, there were pictures shown of women and men in question that would fit the below-average, average and above-average thresholds. This claim of yours that men on dating websites are uglier than the men not on dating websites is completely unfounded.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:25 AM
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29 year old women is not your dating pool. 21-29yo women is. Basically the perfect age to snatch a nice girl that finished her studies and is looking for something stable. Never forget that as a man you are more attractive to younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:21 AM
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In correctly applied socialism, having more people chasing more jobs would make everyone work less hours for the same production. Well yeah and this is exactly the problem in the SMP. Talking from a dutch-netherlands perspective: There is no poverty and a lower middle-class barely exists. The state taxes high incomes so much while at the same time subsidizing low incomes, that everyone up to the upper middle class is essentially earning the same amount of money: Whether you are well-educated and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/20 12:03 AM
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Because an average girl will match 1000 guys in a month time, of which 500 will message her first. She will then decide to only choose the top 10% most attractive guys to message back to, which happen to be way out of her league and only looking for a quick fuck. Dissapointment ensues. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 09:52 PM
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The average man isn't getting any sex from sexually unrestricted women. Only chad does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:20 PM
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Well not everyone is from a shithole somewhere in the USA where everyone eats trash only. In my country, young men are skinny, but a skinny man is not considered attractive as a skinny woman. The equivalent of the bodily attractiveness of a skinny woman here is a lean, muscled guy. Which obviously is much harder to achieve than just being skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:19 PM
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Most people that are fat are old. Nobody cares about them. Incels tend to be unattractive for things they can't change. You can be skinny and be ugly very easily as a man. For a woman it's very hard to be ugly when you are skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:15 PM
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So then how do you deal with the fact that the most western/developed/socialist countries have the biggest SMP problems? It's because socio-economic socialism goes hand in hand with extreme sexual capitalism. If there's no longer a reason to value anything else other than sexual capital, beta's lose all their value and you get the current world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:14 PM
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I would say that unattractive people have no idea how great the life is of attractive people in general, for both women and men. I made quite the transformation myself (ugly->above average) and it's so ridiculously easy to socialize and make friends now. People smile and want to talk to you, instead of rejecting you. Girls act flirty/touchy around you. People respect your presence. People invite you to places. Attractive people are extremely privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:12 PM
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Also women usually have to be physically and mentally attracted to the guy. guess it's really easy for a woman to become mentally attracted to chad then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:06 PM
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non-normie women barely exist. Women are way more likely than men to follow popular trends and activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:06 PM
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Being fat = volcel. Most incels are skinny, but people like you expect them to date obese landwhales. Says enough really
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 08:04 PM
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its only a shithole if you are a useless leech that relies on social welfare like most women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:45 PM
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its called socialism or even communism. the current problems on the SMP are the direct consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 07:43 PM
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There will still be children, just worse educated ones and less of them. Aka much more inclined to clean my ass when I am older, if we don't have robots to take-over such jobs at that point anyways. Nice useless logic you got there to have me pay for someone elses kids. Taxation=theft
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 04:49 PM
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Things like security, education, free health-care for children, etc. should never be paid for by the state as it is a transfer of wealth from childless to people with children. Want your kid to be educated? You better have a lot of money or be willing to do it yourself. There's absolutely no reason why any taxpayer money should go towards that kind of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/20 03:19 PM
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Yes, condifence is just as attractive to men like it is to women, namely not important to attractiveness at all. Confident ugly men are what people would call creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:54 PM
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In the US, it’s not 95% skewed across all of STEM, and it likely isn’t in your country eithe yes it is. Every single city in my country that has a university focused on technology and science has way more men. 3:1 male:female ratio's overall, with those women focused around 'sciences' like architecture, industrial design, social sciences, etc. much more valuable Americans are americans are more valuable than the avg world citizen indeed. I come from a pretty good contributing country aswell (net…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 04:22 PM
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I am studying STEM and 95% of the people around me are men. Sure I didn't invent eletricity because I wasn't around back then. But I am helping develop the next generation of solar panels with a team of men. Then look at all the inventors and entrepreneurs in the current world... almost all men. I agree with you that individual differences are much bigger than gender stereotpyes, but you can't hide from the fact that it is some men advancing this world and barely any women in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/20 02:32 PM
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Science and technology is the only reason why we don't still live in caves. You shouldn't think I am weird for valuing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 09:25 AM
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Sure, maybe it's 85% on average overall the majors. Point is, women don't like technology and science as much as men do and therefore don't contribute as much as a gender to the advancement of human society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 01:42 AM
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Nope, women don't think about average men. Ugly men actually get hated on and get more attention than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:34 AM
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in my country, everything except maths and biology is skewed like that. only the 'soft' STEM majors have reasonable gender ratios, like architecture, industrial design, sustainable development, etc. shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 12:33 AM
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women can't be incel because they have inherent value and are constantly approached, just like the guy in the post: attractive face that makes women approach him. Incels are average or below-average men that are not approached by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:18 PM
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I will take your point into consideration when the female gender starts making a reasonable contribution to scientific and technological development. So far, my STEM university is still 95% male (with at least half being incel and hated by women for being non-masculine, unattractive) so I am probably gonna wait a few more decades before that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 03:13 PM
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I mean nightclub/bar life isn't really much different from the online-dating experience in terms of looks shallowness tbh. So they don't have much more of a chance there. Avg young guy goes to uni, oh look it's 90% male (RIP all fellow intelligent men that study STEM), no women to date. Idk how university dating life is for non STEMcels. Then I guess an avg guy has like 1 male-dominated hobby and 1 mixed-gender hobby I guess. So he has his entire youth dating life stuck on the women that happen …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:52 AM
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https://imgur.com/u6JY7Y0 https://imgur.com/zKuMeBg average young men like this don't get dates through tinder/bumble/badoo for sure. I know because I know so many guys that look just like that, average, that go through the exact same experience. (little matches, ghosted or refusal to meetup with the ones that do match). This was just to check if we are on the same page her about the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 02:13 AM
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I guess, if you enjoy that kind of stuff. Hard to enjoy stuff in life when you feel unwanted. You go through the motions of what a good life is supposed to look like, but with fake emotion and no real passion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:59 AM
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I wouldn't know. You are talking as if the average man even gets to date (aka pass the looks treshold) with that many women to get to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:45 AM
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considering the avg white man in sweden is undesirable by women, but a, dumb/diseased/jobless/dirty refugee is going home with hot blondes according to this guy. Makes you wonder what women mean when they complain about men being trash/unattractive in such countries huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:38 AM
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I wasn’t trying to gaslight I meant to say: “don’t kill yourself” What's a reasonable alternative for undesirable men, Escorts? Materialism? Videogames? Alcohol? They’re not really the same because casual sex there’s no commitment and you go through partners much faster. Whereas with juvenile dating it takes months and years at a time to go through those relationships. I don't see relationships that last a few months to a small year to be anything serious. It's closer to a fwb than a real relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:35 AM
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who cares if you don't even pass the looks treshold most women put on you. It's not like women even want to get to know my personality. All they see is an average face and they already made up their mind: invisible, useless, boring, disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:18 AM
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Brutal statistics. Average woman only finds like 10% of men attractive, 10% of those 10% will fit your personality standards, leaving you with 1%. A big part of which is most likely already in a relationship, say half at which point you get to the part where they have to like you back aswell, leaving an even smaller amount. So you get to 0.1% territory, 1 in 1000 men of your dating age range are good enough for you. Women have to be damn gratefull that men are so thirsy, because if a man would h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:02 AM
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What you said is true for casual sex but getting a relationship isn’t that brutal. Relationships and casual sex are almost the same till your late 20s. Nobody takes relationships serious till this age and having sex and chilling together is usually most of the time you spend together. By late 20s people know who they are, what they want out of life and a relationship and they are in a better place financially to start a family so that’s a reasonable age to start looking to settle down. Yes that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:38 AM
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average looking men are invisible in the eyes of women so those are also beta's because an UMC job isn't going to make you any more visible. It's also over for avg and ugly working class men in today's society. Those are better off picking up the steroid-life, getting tattoos, and getting girls through masculinity only. Late 20s is extremely old to start getting a decent amount of relationship and sexual experience. It's also the age at which women have to seriously think about getting children …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:35 PM
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A beta is a man that is ugly but has a UMC job or is clearly on his path to such a job. Meanwhile 90% of my fellow STEMcels are being left in the dirt entirely for relationships. They are going to have wait till their late twenties when their carreers start rolling and women their age are starting to settle to get babies. Absolutely disgusting, old, low-value women. While you were alone and despised during your entire youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:19 PM
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I do it with girls that reject me in a mean/ugly way. Like they tend to pull that 'eww I am disgusted by you, get away from me' face. Or they do that face with their friends once I turn around. Both types combined is like ~half the time. Whenever I see one of my mates rejected like that I will go up to her aswell and trashtalk her if he doesn't because he feels bad. Girls like that don't deserve any respect and I'd much rather have my friend feel a bit better by starting a fight with the bitch. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:44 PM
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but if he checks off almost everything on her list but looks they’ll go for him. ahahahahahha how I wish this was true for 'women looking for relationships' in 2020. Unfortunately it's not. It's AB>AF>Single>Settle for BB if you are too lonely and/or want kids and you are getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 09:27 PM
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Most women looking for relationships are not looking for BB, but for an AF that will commit to her. A lot of women would even rather stay single than get into a relationship with BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 08:57 PM
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Raping women is also common sense for some physically unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 07:45 PM
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Never said it was going to be perfect, but it will be hella lot better than the shit society we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 06:47 PM
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Much harder to do in today's world where you are regularly confronted with the amazing lives of people like Dan Bilzerian being thrown into your face through advertisements, virtual entertainment and social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 03:04 PM
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RMP is easier for women too. Just lol @ thinking the avg woman struggles at all to get into a relationship an avg guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 02:58 PM
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I agree. Uglier people are more likely to repress such tempers/mood swings in the vicinity of others are they are less likely to be tolerated for it. Whenever someone makes a big scene at my fraternity it's almost always one of the jocks. When one uglier-lower status male does it, he gets hated for it by the whole frat. Nobody will side with him, etc. Brutal world we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 11:09 AM
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String multiple short term relationships(~1-3 years) from age 13 on, maybe with a fwb in between here and there but not much of the like. Experience many different guys that way untill you find something you really like, probably somewhere in your early-mid twenties whilst finishing university, starting in the work-force and having done your fair-share of traveling and wild adventures. Have children and the family life with him. Always try to stay working at least part-time for financial indepen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:48 AM
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ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:27 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:15 AM
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What responsibilities? The average woman my age is living it up and travelling the world. Doesn't seem to have any more responsibilities than the avg male. And the punishment for failure to take responsibility in life seems to be much harsher for men aswell compared to women. Ending up incel, homeless, suicidal, in jail or an addict seems to be more likely for irresponsible men than irresponsible women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:09 AM
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Well to add to what I am saying: I live in a rich western country in which rape, domestic violence and sex trafficking are almost non-existant and don't affect the average woman whatsoever. I don't know how it's like in poor third world countries, but I don't care as the rich western world is the world I live in and that's the world I would be living in if I was female. Which I would've rather been if I was given the choice at birth with my current knowledge. If the western world remains similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 03:01 AM
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String multiple short term relationships(~1-3 years) from age 13 on, maybe with a fwb in between here and there but not much of the like. Experience many different guys that way untill you find something you really like, probably somewhere in your early-mid twenties whilst finishing university, starting in the work-force and having done your fair-share of traveling and wild adventures. Have children and the family life with him. Always try to stay working at least part-time for financial indepen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:57 AM
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In this day and age in a modern western country? Yeah for sure. The only advantage I would lose is physical strength/size and that's practically useless in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:21 AM
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I am jealous because women have a ridiculous advantage not only in getting sex but also in getting nice and fun relationship experiences and picking the right (lifetime) partner. Meanwhile women complain about a 7% gender wagegap, when I would give away 7% of my income in a heartbeat if I could have female sex and relationship privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/20 02:06 AM
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how is it a humblebrag. I just looked up some guides on pornhub on how to make a girl orgasm and applied it IRL. Being 'good at sex' is an easy skill. I am 100% sure that an orgasm feels way better for a woman than cumming as a guy. I had girls still trembling from sex 15 mins after we were done.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:37 PM
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Most people only know the horror stories. And most people that have had positive/succesfull plastic surgery tend to hide it and act like they are natural so they aren't judged because of it. I agree though that you need to have a good base to get to that top 10% level. But any amount of better looks wil help. If you end up worse-looking? Whatever, you tried your best. There is no good alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 09:24 PM
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major cope. Sex as a guy is good experience, but it must be way better to experience it as a woman judging from how my female sexual partners would tremble and respond during it and afterwards. I never had that as a guy. Some of them never orgasmed before they were with me and they still all said sex felt great even without orgasming. Reddit just seems to be completely filled with asexual women that dont enjoy sex at all. The avg woman IRL isn't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 06:19 PM
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Looks 100%, Personality 0%. As an average but fit 24yo guy I can't afford to select on personality if I want a non-fat girl. 'non-fat' as a dating criterium already leaves me with so little options that I can't afford to be picky on personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:18 PM
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Yeah I see girls like that here in the netherlands everywhere. They are knocking on my door as we speak because they can't get boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 05:04 PM
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Not in my book she isn't. Most people in Euroland would probably rate her as 5. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:28 PM
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Barbara palvin is a 10 and I am from the netherlands. There are no skinny women who can't get boyfriends here, just a very few that can't get chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 04:09 PM
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275lbs on a 6ft body is fat. 200lbs is more of a healthy weight for a trained 6ft individual and even that is too fat to see a sixpack.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 03:38 PM
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yeah because a 'tall' woman is generally as tall as an avg guy since guys are taller on avg. So you will see mostly tall guys with short girls. I personally don't mind dating girls taller than myself (I am 6'0 but dutch so it's basically avg height here). But 5'10+ girls tend to go for 6'2+ guys only. They disqualify me because of my height, not the other way around. If tall women struggle in dating it's because they disqualify a large portion of the male population themselves due to standards l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/20 01:59 AM
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For instance, he can fly girls from any state to his apartment(no roommates), he can get IG models through photoshoots, he can get trips to LA or Las Vegas. He can rent a room in a Yacht through Airbnb. He can get a table at a nightclub. The list goes on and on. This guy is getting laid 6 or 7 times a month with different girls. Yeah so the guy is paying shitton of money to get women, probably more than if he just hired a prostitute lmao. Imagine spending the money to fly girls to your apparteme…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:27 PM
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This imo is also the reason why you see intelligent men struggle in the SMP. They are self-aware and have a more realistic and rational view on life and their position in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 07:21 PM
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Yeah you are calling 99.999% of men bad because they watch porn and probably 70% of the female population that does. Hmmm who is the problem here, you are or 90% of the world population that watches porn? No wonder you couldn't find a man, impossible standards. No different than a 40yo guy demanding a 18yo virgin that doesn't have any social media accounts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 06:28 PM
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I experienced the same. The guys that are dominating women in bed do so mostly to please the girl, not so because they enjoy doing it so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 05:14 PM
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Those degenerate sexual fetishes actually stem from a lack of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 04:19 PM
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Barely exists among young people where I live in Europe and there still shitton of incels here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/20 12:33 AM
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billions worth subsidized plastic surgery and plastic surgery research combined with billions of funding into creating affordable designer babies Much better way to spend taxpayer money than funding single moms and their spawns for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 06:35 PM
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Yeah in my country it's 120 murders on a population of 17 million, meaning that shit only happens in the deep criminal underworld basically. You would have to voluntarily seek out criminal organisations and join them to have a small chance to be murdered at some point in your life. I don't know where you are from, but I can't imagine a large part of this reddit community not being from western developed countries that are 100% safe like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:45 PM
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that's how the world works sweaty
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:29 PM
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Because real lack of safety is a complete non-issue in developed western countries. It doesn't exist, my country is 100% safe. Murders don't happen, theft doesn't happen, etc. Whenever it does happen it is nationwide news because it is so rare. So whenever 'lack of safety' is talked about I can only imagine some woman complaining about how 'she feels unsafe walking home alone in skimpy clothing at 4AM while intoxicated. men are trash'. Which obviously is laughable and easily compareable to a lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:26 PM
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Reality: You get rejected dozens of times, known as 'the creep guy that hits on girls' and rejected from social circles. Untill you eventually give up with the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 01:22 PM
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Question to you, do you think channing tatum does his own make-up when he goes out of his house in his daily life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 12:51 PM
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Well the biggest difference is that 99% of men don't use make-up. Going in from my own perspective: If I start using make-up now, I will be the only guy in my entire social circle, friends, relatives, acquintainces, etc. that uses make-up. It is considered feminine, 'try-hard', unnatural and most of all gay. While I personally don't care about their opinions, it's a large barrier of entry and just like fitness: doing it with some friends/mates makes it more fun and easier to do than doing it all…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:30 AM
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Being unattractive makes someone boring because it makes me have zero to none sexual interest in them. This also easily results in the conversation being more friendly/business like because I have no intention in flirting with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:21 AM
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I don't know a single below avg-looking beta guy that is having sex at all. I do know some below-avg looking thugs/alpha's that have sex though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 03:00 AM
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I am a guy and the second picture is what my brows look like when I get out of bed without doing anything https://imgur.com/MBMyld0 I have tried 'styling' my eyebrows but there was basically no point lol. I would love to use make-up though, but there's a huge stigma to use it as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 02:54 AM
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idk about truerateme but overall reddit hugely over-rates girls. The guy is obv worse looking than the girl, but its not like there's this absolutely huge discrepancy. The guy has some enormous failo's that could easily be fixed that don't really detract from his genetic potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 02:22 AM
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Yeah well seems like this is more a problem from your side. A girl that is into you will respond flirty to you, always smiling, makes sure you notice her, etc. that's the female way of 'approaching'. She makes it clear for you that if you want her that she's there for you to take. Seems to me that if only low-value girls set themselves up for you like that, you aren't as attractive as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 11:05 PM
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I used to believe this is what women went through on online dating untill I made a female catfish and saw that 90% of my matches were nice/kind guys looking for a relationship and putting in huge effort into their messages to try and get responses. The worst/most sexual messages I would get was something like: 'Hey, wanna meetup in my appartement tonight and have fun?' So yeah, I don't take women that complain about these kind of guys serious at all anymore. It's such a minor effort to block tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 10:55 PM
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I would date the female version of myself, but the female version of myself would never date me because she has much better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:39 PM
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Sure but the chance becomes ridiculously low as to the point where it doesn't matter. And if you do get pregant you just get an abortion in the worst case scenario so who cares tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 02:10 PM
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pregnancy is not a risk you take every time you have sex. You decide yourself if you want to get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/20 12:04 PM
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Imagine getting an unwanted pregnancy in 2020. Nobody said anything about having an IQ of 80.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 09:07 PM
1

victoria secret models or death
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:06 PM
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Who cares about what 'should' be when the world is the way it is? Most people think that we 'should' be less shallow, but the human brain and our instinctual behavior is shallow so no matter how much you want something to should be a certain way, it wont happen unless you change the human genetic code.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 11:19 PM
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I don't want sex with a starfish like you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 11:37 AM
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There is no equal to this female fantasy that can realistically be obtained by a majority of men, therefore will never be 'common'. The moment you bring any type of fetish into the bedroom as a man is the moment your sexual relationship comes to an end. Meanwhile hairpulling, spanking and choking is often already expected from you even if it's just a one night stand lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:29 AM
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That's exactly what I meant though?! Add a typical young male libido and an avg life of clubbing/partying every once in a while and realizing he will be constantly approached by hot women because he is Chad ... and ofc he's gonna have super high n-count, aka what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/20 12:12 AM
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Women actually prefer men that are good at getting women in bed, but then want him to let go of his options to be loyal to her. You as an individual man lose nothing if you fuck around and you're honest about it to your future female partner. In fact she would be pleased to know that you are settling with her even though you could have so many other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:59 PM
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Women don't need to have orgasms to enjoy sex. Pregnancy doesn't happen when you use condoms or any other form of birth control. There go all your arguments. The fact you don't see 'what's in it for us' proves the title of this post for you. You don't like sex, you are an asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/20 09:54 PM
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I have always advocated for only private healthcare and schooling systems for exactly this reason. Beta's need to stop paying for any healthcare or schooling provided with their tax money to children that are not theirs. It is theft. Once it becomes unaffordable to have children with chad because the state won't support it, beta's will become more attractive again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 09:16 AM
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Tinder is not a hookup site, I know way too many people my age that have gotten into serious relationships through tinder. Probably more so than the amount of ppl that used it just for hookups. So stop spreading this false information. Looks are extremely important IRL aswell, it's not that much different from tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 11:28 PM
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This goes hand-in-hand with trying to date someone out of your league. Then there's simply not enough non-fat women in the world anymore for fit men to match with. Women need to step it up and stop being so damn fat and unattractive. Tinder is where you mainly judge people in your local area by looks and your bio is a paragraph long. Why is this is surprising you’ll be mainly hudged by your looks? What do you expect?! literally not different than real life where you are also first judged entirel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 11:25 PM
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Fat young men are rare in Europe tbh. Most unattractive men are simply skinny but with 0 muscle and unattractive facial bone structure. While for unattractive women being fat is the most common reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 11:01 PM
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80% of men being below average looking according to women. Swipe rates of less than 5% for women but 50% for men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:59 PM
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Idk about america but in Europe 90% of men are low bodyfat. It's just that a skinny guy without muscles is considered unattractive fo women. But men would love a woman that isn't fat. 'Dont be fat' only works for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:35 PM
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This. Most relationships start from online dating nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 10:19 PM
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As if anyone that isn't able to play the casual sex game is doing any better in finding a relationship lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:35 PM
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Everything points towards women having impossible standards on what their boyfriend should look like, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 09:34 PM
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You mean not even answering and instantly ghosting or using dates with you to get free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:26 PM
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Yeah right. keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 06:25 PM
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The way average women and average men respond to eachother on Tinder is a good representation of the struggles of the average young smartphone-using millenial. When you see that average men get absolutely nada, nilch, zero attention or respect from ANY women whatsoever on dating apps, that tells a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:21 PM
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More as in, 30% of adult men haven't had sex at all in the last year. And another 20-30% probably barely had much either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 05:19 PM
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older people are conservative because they are ugly and need to cope with that. They know they will never be good-looking because they are old and wrinkly, but it doesn't matter because everyone around them is old and wrinkly aswell. Younger people tend to lean more towards the blackpill because they are ugly asf while they have friends and acquintances that are not, so they directly see the difference looks have every single day. They can not say: 'oh i was good-looking when I was younger.' No,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/20 10:45 PM
1

Oh please, do you even live in the real world? It's incredible easy for a woman to get dates and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:21 PM
1

Oh please, femcels don't/barely exist. Women have it 10 times easier to get relationships compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 07:11 PM
1

The only reason why incels are conservative is because they are rejected and left out of the relationship/casual sex scene entirely. If they can't have fun, then nobody should. It's the same reason why old people are conservative: They are ugly and can't enjoy love/sex as much as young people anymore. So they don't want young people to have fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:42 PM
2

Never listen to what women say, watch what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:37 PM
2

Attractive people are considered funny, not the other way around. Women don't care about your hobbies unless it gives you status/money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 06:22 PM
2

That requires effort and thought, not something that someone who 'doesnt need numbers or charts' is ever going to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 04:42 PM
6

Look people! 'the earth is flat because that is what I observe in my daily life' type of person right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:36 PM
14

There's only 1 type of intelligence and that is generally known as 'IQ' and measured by a 'WAIS-IV' intelligence test. The rest is bullshit that only exists in the mind of some ppl and has no scientific backing whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 03:19 PM
17

This. It's not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:46 PM
3

Still better than not being noticed at all, like the typical 'dweeb' with a normal personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:39 PM
1

What are those guys like? Better looking than me. /end
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 02:34 PM
2

enjoy post-wall catlife
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:20 PM
3

Women are trash
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 01:02 PM
2

Lots of married people are incels in denial aswell. Imagine barely getting any affection from women at all in your life and then betabuxing for a whale in your early 30s lmao. Better of going MSTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 12:58 PM
-2

Men Sent Their Own Way
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/20 10:34 AM
1

This. Women are the gatekeepers of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:51 PM
1

Women that use more than avg make-up are overestimating their value, because unless they plan on wearing that shit 24/7, they are gon be way uglier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:50 PM
2

Dweebs look bad no matter the behavior they show. I am 100% confident that a low inhib psycho dweeb gets more sex than a nice/charming dweeb.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:45 PM
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Wanted to mention this. The only way an 'average guy' can become chad if he was fat and had chad-tier bone structure hidden underneath. That's extremely rare. More common would be having high-tier normie facial bone structure hidden underneath the fat and then using plastic surgery to go from high tier normie to chad(lite). Your avg guy stands no chance tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:42 PM
1

Money doesn't matter that much untill you start talking about millions which is unachievable for 99.9% of the population that isn't born into such wealth. A more typical example would be a guy driving a new porsche versus a guy driving a toyota prius. Such a difference isn't really going to matter much to an average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 11:30 PM
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Men who are making good money having women falling all over them. Never happens and never will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:25 PM
1

This is the only thing that matters here. The average man struggles very hard in dating compared to the average woman, so he values relationships more. For the average woman, a man is very easily replaced and therefore she is unlikely to care much about the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 01:22 PM
1

sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/20 03:57 PM
1

Shoelifts and hairpieces are impossible to spot when done properly though. Idk how easy it is to notice minimal make-up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 07:09 PM
2

Would using make-up be acceptable as a man and tips/tricks shared among men? That's one of the biggest differences in attractiveness between the avg man and avg woman. Woman get to hide their flaws and litterally paint a different facial bone structure than they actually have on their face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 06:16 PM
0

'Your science is fake, I have completely 0 evidence or studies myself to back-up my claims, this discussion is over' How am I not suprised as this is how every discussion with a bluepiller goes. Even comparing me to 'flat-earthers'(retards) or anti-vaxxers (anti-science). I guess you are the type of person that also compares people/politicians with hitler so I know what I am dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 01:20 PM
1

You have many other influences in attraction such as environment, hormones and even scent. Why does every single dating study showing that physical beauty (the type that's rated 1-10) has BY FAR the largest correlation with dating succes aka attraction? I have seen exactly 0 proof from anyone that there's anything more important than looks for physical attraction, meanwhile there's a shitton of studies that proof the exact opposite. See /r/blackpillscience
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:42 PM
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Everyone is superficial. There's only distinction between people that refuse to admit it and people that cannot afford to be superficial. My minimum requirement in looks is 8/10 for LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:48 AM
2

another delusional person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:44 AM
0

You are completely and utterly delusional. How can it be that you can have 10.000 people rate a person's beauty on a scale of 1-10 and the standard deviation is only 0.7 ? Meaning if the average of those 10.000 votes is an 8, then 96% of the voters will have voted his/her beauty with a number between 7.3 and 8.7 . Meaning that people tend to agree A LOT on ratings. There have been so many studies on this and the evidence is undisputable: Beauty is OBJECTIVE, even across ethnicities and cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:43 AM
1

This. Also reminder that misogynists are made, not born. Every misogynist once loved and cherrished women as that's male nature, but experience enough bullying and rejection and you learn to hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:12 AM
1

MGTOW=MSTOW=Men Sent Their Own Way. It's basically an incel deciding that he has lost and find other meaning in his life, aka cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:09 AM
1

Maybe use your brain?! IT does nothing but repost the 1% most controversial posts/topics on anonymous incel messageboards. What do you think happens if I go to some anonymous black activist community website where people are free to vent/shitpost and start copying only the 1% most controversial posts? Use your brain please
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:06 AM
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Harvey Weinstein managed to get over his shitty looks by getting incredible status and dominance in the movie industry. That allowed him to get with women. Now look at what society says about him. They want him DEAD, because they are absolutely disgusted at the idea of an ugly man having sex with hot women. Weinstein is a fucking hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 10:00 AM
1

Perhaps, but genetics are never the only factor. If you have a genetic preposition to get fat it just means you need to try a bit harder than the avg person to stay lean. (except for those less than 1% case scenarios) It's a bad excuse. Imagine someone with a peanut allergy being like:'oh well, I will still eat peanuts like everyone else. Guess I am just gonna die, fuck my genes right?!' I know in my case that it was 100% shitty eating habits enforced by my parents. If it was genes I wouldn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 11:43 PM
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Shitty boomer parents that should've never gotten children and impose their shitty eating habits on them as children. If you've been fat all your life it's hard to get rid of. Whenever I see fat kids, their parents are obese/fat 80% of the time. Whenever I see skinny kids, their parents are almost never obese/fat. I wish death upon my obese garbage parents that made my grow up obese aswell. I managed to lose the weight, but the mental scars of being an ugly obese cunt in my youth (and the obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 10:58 PM
2

Then go after women who dont heavy select for looks. Don't exist. There's an entire group of women that call themselves asexual and demisexual. Problem solved. How does the fact there is a group of asexual/demisexual women solve anything?!? There is a reason r/Incels is banned. Even r/theredpill is quarantined and on its way to a ban. The discussions we're having here on this subreddit are probably already 'greyzone' and when, not if, TRP gets banned I wouldn't be suprised to see much stronger m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 02:24 PM
2

Because all they talk about is sex, looks, and money. Mostly looks, because that's what is the most heavily selected on for sex and relationships. You also forgot personality and status. Even look at Elliot Rodgers. A murderer with autism is somehow representative of the typical incel male? Oh comeon. There's literally millions of incels in the world but so far only 2 'incel murders' have occured. If anything the typical incel is far more peacefull than the typical non-incel. What you are doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 01:39 PM
1

No idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:14 PM
1

Because flirting leads to sex. And sex leads to getting better at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 12:09 PM
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Yup. Ugly people also suffer MUCH more under objectification than people on the other side of the spectrum aswell. But they are never talked about. No idea how people can complain about the sexual objectification of a woman when that same woman uses that objectification to her advantage. If sexual objectification was such a big problem, it's extremely easy to solve since becoming uglier is quite a lot easier than becoming more attractive. But nobody wil ever do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:57 AM
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Your example is exactly why looks is a much more important metric for value than personality. You didn't find conversation with her about ex-es, gossip, etc interesting. Perhaps you would rather talk about politics or something else. However arguably her interests (general gossip, love life of people, etc) have broader mass appeal than yours in this case and she would find it easier to find like-minded people and build social bonds with them. One could make the same argument about what is a high…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:48 AM
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Nah this conclusion has a scientific basis where there was concluded that flirting is much more welcomed and appreciated when it is done by a physically attractive person than an physically unattractive person. Or another study I read that showed that attractive people are considered more funny than unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 11:36 AM
1

Being competitive on academia gets you nothing. STEM is filled with despised virgins despite being the best overall students.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 11:32 PM
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Yeah as long as he doesn't look homeless. (Unkempt, smelly, shit clothes, living in a box, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:42 PM
3

What do you mean with personality? dark triad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:40 PM
1

Nah I am right. It's the same reason why I don't believe ugly people can be good at flirting. Because having fun, interesting flirts need reciprocity from the person you are flirting with. Which is never gonna come when you are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:39 PM
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Sex doesn't even happen without physical attraction. It's literally the only all-deciding factor; You can be the best in all of this things you listed and no girl will want 'great sex' with you if you are ugly. Therefore the only conclusion is that the largest part of sexual enjoyment comes from physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:16 PM
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good looks, both men and women. Therefore not hard to determine since beauty is objective and it's been shown by studies that humans, even across cultures, generally agree what is attractive and what is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 08:36 PM
1

poor comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 07:42 PM
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Because I've read exactly that. Where? One of the many anti-incel propaganda news outlets? Thats personality driven from what I've seen. Wrong. I play both games as a swinger. I'm a 6ish in casual sex, and a 9-10 for an LTR. Status plays a lot less of a role when its just a quick bang. It helps but I could easily pull hotter if they thought I'd wife them. Could be the age difference. At my age (18-25yo) the only thing that matters is looks. Both for LTR aswell as casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 03:08 PM
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As a 31yo you can date girls that just finished college in the 21-25yo age range easily. No quality was lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:27 PM
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Guys who are not exceptional know they can't play the casual sex game and are already aiming for LTR's. No idea where this idiotic idea comes from that incels are chasing stacies and only want casual sex. But unlike what some bluepilled people here think, if you struggle to get casual sex you will struggle getting LTR's aswell. The same qualities are selected for, both for LTR's aswell as casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 02:26 PM
1

For both men and women the largest part of sexual enjoyment comes from the physical attractiveness of their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:15 PM
1

And how does a man benefit from any of that? If anything a woman knowing her body and what she likes is a negative thing since she won't be up for much experimenting anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:14 PM
2

Only chads have girlfriends in their youth. These are the same badboys
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 01:00 PM
-1

What does this have to do with sex slavery?! You're being an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 09:57 AM
-4

Solution: Keep dating girls in their early 20s even when you get older. Alternatively, date girls in their late twenties till their early thirties (if still acceptable lookswise), and dump them for a late twenties chick again. Alternatively fuck early 20s escorts. Alternatively get a young girl from a poor country. Yeah, 80% of men get a totally shit deal from women, but you adapt and don't settle for their early 30s used up vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/20 12:41 AM
2

University gym: 90% male
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 09:03 PM
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have to get used to the fact that many women have an abundance of options for casual sex for (starts of) relationships aswell. No point in making this distinction because at the start of a relationship its practically a fwb situation anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:17 PM
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Half of that is literally nothing, like, 5 minutes of work. a date doesn't last 5 minutes and neither does the conversation before you setup a date. The other half is literally for your own benefit to make your own penis feel good on the woman. Oh you are one of those women that argues women don't like kissing, cuddling and sex and women only do this to please men. Sucks to be asexual like you, but most women aren't. Idk what asexuals are doing on this subreddit. Make up, high heels, Brazilian w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:22 PM
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hahahah, so being a brick wall with tits during a conversation is now called 'screening'. Well perhaps the men not putting in effort are screening aswell? Why should the man make plans and physically escalate with a woman? If the woman was actually interested in him, she would make the plans and physically escalate. Instead of worrying about dating, become a functioning man instead. just become a worker drone bro, stop annoying women and wanting to have relationships. dont forget to pay your tax…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:10 PM
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If you are fine with smashing whales then it's about top 50% to get an ONS with a shitton of effort. If you want a healthy girl, you need to be around top 10% and still swipe for weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 05:07 PM
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Make the first move, carry the conversation completely and make it interesting, setup the first date, carry the conversation during the date, make the first move of physical escalation, setup the second date, 'lol' women are extremely lazy during dates
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:50 PM
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Women talking about lack of effort in dating lol. Did you forget that men do 90% of the work during the initial phases of a relationship? What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 04:34 PM
1

Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:59 AM
1

I can't even imagine having the privilege of being this picky lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 12:55 AM
4

From a STEM graduate environment perspective: *A lot of extremely smart and productive men are failing to get any affection from women whatsoever. *This group will eventually split into 3 categories: 1)By far the largest group will still get married, have children, etc once they get into their late twenties/early thirties and some girl finally takes a real liking. Even though they didn't get any affection from women whatsoever untill that point, they will 'do what's right and how life should be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:09 PM
3

women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 03:26 PM
3

MGTOW's need to unite and make their own country/organization without women so they can reap the benefits of their labour instead of having it be removed by taxes and given to women that benefit the most from the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 12:06 PM
3

Rappers/popstars are the most succesfull entertainers for young people and they clearly are lacking in the intelligence department. Actually most mass entertainment is low in intelligence. I really wonder how you get the idea that mass entertainment is 'clearly above 100IQ'. (note that 100IQ is average and about half the population is BELOW that.) inb4 someone is gonna make the argument that entertainment like miley cyrus, xxtentacion, post malone and drake is actually 'really deep' and 'intelli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 04:56 PM
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Most popstars/rappers/hiphop artists clearly display traits of below average intelligence and they are some of the most known, influential and popular figures. Intelligence remains one of the most overrated attributes in society imo. It's not as important for success/life quality as people make it seem, at least not in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 04:35 PM
3

And it's also been studied that women think that attractive guys are funny and not so much that funny guys are attractive. Same joke told by an attractive person is much funnier, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:33 PM
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What women mean with smart is a chiseled jawline, full head of hair and being tall. Because that's how the hot actor looked that played the smart guy in the romcom they watched.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:25 PM
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Guys with 140+ IQ are not a meaningfull part of the population(top 0.1%) and it is pointless to discuss them. STEM students are 120-130IQ and are already top 5% in intelligence. Looking at how many STEM people are permavirgins it's clear that 120+ IQ is already a severe disadvantage of being able to be attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:22 PM
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120-130IQ is already way too high, that's the level of intelligence typical STEM students have and they are permavirgins. That's already 1%. 'Smart' for the average person is more like 110-120 at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:19 PM
5

Verbal intelligence also has nothing to do with wit either. I had my total IQ tested with a WAIS-IV and verbal intelligence testing is a part of that. Verbal intelligence in the test had to do with how well you are able to express ideas in words and how well you are able to comprehend verbalized ideas/words. It's something autistic people would also perform extremely well at with their precise and exact correct usage of words in their well-constructed sentences. But it's not something you would …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:16 PM
4

Intelligence/IQ has nothing to do with wit. Call it charm or game, but stop confusing it with intelligence or IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 03:03 PM
5

Did I forget the /s ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:53 PM
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All men that think that just a slim female body is already attractive enough are trash and would fuck goats if they could. They objectify the female body and would only use it as their sex-doll. This happens to be about 80% of men. As a woman I only care if I am attractive to the top 20% of men. Why does the patriarchy hold me to such high beauty standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:08 PM
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They are doing productive things for society, for others. Not for themselves. It's a sad sight when you see some extremely hard-working high IQ person being a doctor/engineer. They dedicated their entire lives and talents to saving people and improving people's lives. Meanwhile they are incel or in a dead bedroom, living in utter shit life quality with nobody really respecting them for who they are, only what he can do for them. Always those kind of people breaking down in a mid-life crisis when…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 11:53 AM
3

most smart boys are bullied in school and treated like they are inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:48 AM
3

they cope with their lack of pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 10:47 AM
3

Most incels have high IQ's which is heavily correlated with virginity and a lack of sexual success. Literally too smart to be attractive to women is a large problem to many highly academically succesfull males (STEM is 90% male).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:44 AM
0

M=133 F=84 Gender=M Pill=BLACK
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/19 12:25 PM
6

The word entitled is such a stupid and shitty word to use in this context
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 11:50 PM
2

No it isn't, but if the bottom 30% of men is literally getting NOTHING: Adult virgins. Then you have a large part of men just outside of that range that get ALMOST nothing, like 'oh yeah I got lucky once on a holiday 2 years ago' sorta thing. Say 20% That means half the young male population is basically not having any sort of romantic/sexual interactions really. Meaning it is pretty normal to get no attention/affection from women as 50% of young men don't. It's especially brutal considering how…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:48 PM
3

I don't know a single guy my age range (19-25yo) that doesn't struggle immensily with finding dating partners, let alone casual sex. Yes literally, can't even find woman to go on a date with, which is only a small step towards anything. All of these guys are smart, go to parties and clubbing a lot, usually part of a frat and most of them work out to some degree. They are mostly average looking. Being in any way interesting or attractive to women is a huge exception as most guys my age tend to go…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:41 PM
2

Only chad doesn't pay for women's attention and genuine interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 09:16 PM
1

4 times lower suicide rates sure seem to indicate that sorta thing yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:48 PM
1

'Look at this fridge I have full of food I don't want to eat. I have it just as bad as starving people.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:49 PM
1

Nope, 25yo 'women' still do this. Its female nature
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:11 PM
1

imagine how much self-esteem girls would have if they would: 1) Not get any matches on tinder. 2) NEVER be approached. 3) Face a constant stream of rejection throughout their lives aka the life of an average guy. Girls and their so called 'low self esteem' can go fuck themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 05:09 PM
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To be fair I was dimmisive of almost all men because I was only interested in svelte, mentally Dominant, sexual switches. Yeah and I am sure you could know that from looking at someone's facial bone structure which is what caused you to swipe left on 99% of profiles and ghost 99% of the remaining 1% within 2 text messages. But my husband met that criteria and had something to talk about passionately outside of the bedroom, and shared it with me. Sounds like the 'talk about something passionately…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 02:47 AM
5

You wouldn't recommend the only thing that can fix their dating lives, what a suprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:35 PM
3

Depends where you live aswell. 6'0 is slightly below average in the netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:34 PM
3

Stories like this are nothing more than tales and myths.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:34 PM
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Lol @ the amount of virtue signalling here. People saying here that they will not treat a person they want to fuck any better or with more interest or with more enthusiasm than a girl/guy they wouldn't want to fuck. What a joke. For example: You are basically saying that you never flirt?! Or that you flirt just as often with ugly people? Everyone treats ugly people worse, the only difference is that most people have too little self-awareness or aren't truthfull enough to admit it. This is why I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:08 PM
2

They make people believe they can only date ugly girls if they are not 6’5” gigachad with huge jaw and cheekbones lol. Reality does not work that like that. Gigachad doesn't need to go to the gym at all since he has face. If you are not fat when you start fitness, the amount of attractiveness you can gain with a good body is limited tbh. I wish reality was like you say it is that you can overcome your genetics with hard work as easily like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 06:10 PM
3

'extremely high standards' in 2019 is 'not overweight'. clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:26 PM
5

Most people don't find the prospect of going to the gym for 2 years and counting all your calories just to get the CHANCE to date a fat ugly girl, to be worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:23 PM
0

There's no reason to assume that a person showing of his/her great life on instagram is not living at least an average/similar life as you when not doing all those awesome instagram things all the time. It's simply cope of those that can't deal with their lives being better than theirs. Kinda the same thing with how jealous people assume that good-looking people have shitty personalities, rich people must be secretly sad and unfullfilled, good-looking people still feel insecure about their looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:20 PM
1

Somehow you believe that attributes that allow you to easily get to the point of intimacy to have sex with a woman are not going to help you get into an LTR with her ?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 11:59 PM
3

definitely helps you get laid with a pretty girl (especially after Tinder) but doesn't help you lock down a LTR with her. imagine believing this. /end
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:57 PM
6

Yeah, OP basically proves it: Facial attractiveness trumphs everything. The only reason girls think he has an attractive body is because they think his face is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 02:12 PM
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All this proves is that if you have a good face like you, girls will compliment your mediocre body and other mediocre characteristics aswell. You're only confirming the halo effect. Some facially average/below-average guy with a body much better than yours after years of lifting is lucky to get half the compliments you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 10:59 AM
3

5k years ago the average man didn't have any power lmao. He was often a slave and forced to fight useless wars to be killed. That's no 'power'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 12:38 AM
2

How do you turn yourself gay? Men don't have the advantage of being bisexual as often as women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:23 PM
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https://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php It's literally better to be mentally retarded (less than 70IQ) than be smart (higher than 120IQ) for sexual success. Studies PROVE this. Stop spreading this misinformation that sapiosexuality exists in any way or form. Women select AGAINST intelligence or with whatever traits are heavily correlated with intelligence. This is also why the large amount of sexual selection by women we see in today's society is going to lead to a dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 04:11 PM
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Intelligence, and associated traits such as social competence, humor. Indicative of being able to adapt to, and attain mastery over one's environment, including social environment. These are traits that women select against, not for. The more intelligent you are, the less succesfull you are with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:39 PM
3

This. Bodybuilding has become a mainstream hobby for a large portion of young men over the last 10 years. I know many many men that spent hours researching and prepping food, studying workout techniques and working out 3-5 times/week. And that's all mostly done to become more attractive to women and to try and comply to modern beauty standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:04 AM
21

yes thats actually much better than being invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:28 PM
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"care" is still better than no care at all. Nobody sees male mental issues as a shortcut to getting laid so you still have it better than men. Apparantly it works well since men commit suicide 4 times more often. /end
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:14 PM
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You have a girlfriend/wife to have fun with and enjoy life together. Not to share struggles and bad emotions because they will leave you real quick. You do that with male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:00 PM
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The thing is, I think unemployment rates also are higher for people in 50s than for people in 30s. If you don't count students, then probably yeah. But that doesn't matter for the general population that does get a job. It's not that interesting for the general picture, stereotype. And do you have close friends? I think they also make you feel more worthy. Yes I do and no it's different. The relationship I have with a girlfriend is much deeper than what I have with close friends, personally. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 10:40 PM
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But do they also have lowest unemployment rates? idk, most young people are students and don't work at all or earn any money at all. It is everywhere and my mother said that being a 30-35 year old with work experience is when you have the peak value in the labor market. For the netherlands, the older you are the more money you will make, all the way untill retirement. See:https://imgur.com/Z4V1cJu Very large difference in terms of money made. From the dutch office of statistics:https://www.cbs.n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:36 PM
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Meh, most people were not considered valuable since the dawn of civilization. "They are just strangers and consumables." Nah, when society is more dangerous and generally lower life quality due to disease/famine/war/lack of water, etc. then people become more valuable. In our individualized society, it isn't valuable at all anymore. So, you mean value as money. The amount of money you are paid does not tell you much nor helps to overcome insecurities. money is a decent way to value services/life…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 08:06 PM
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Because young people used to have way more value back then. For example, physical labor and physical strength used to be really important. In my country (Netherlands), when the coal mines were opened 60 years ago, a 20year old fit coal miner would bring in ridiculous amounts of money. Easily able to support a large family on his own at such an early age. Less extreme for other physical jobs that were more healthy, but still. Now? A 20 year old male is WORTHLESS. Physical labor is paid shit and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 07:29 PM
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Fat, lazy and always complaining. She emotionally abused my dad and tried to do everything to make him seem like the bad guy to us as children so that we would pick her side. Regularly using the threat of divorce and leaving us behind to get us to do as she wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 02:43 PM
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Well then you couldn't have missed my cousin with down's syndrome and bound to a wheelchair either! He knows the tricks and has women lining up for him!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:51 AM
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You think that is an accurate representation of average women struggling to get casual sex and how inexperienced men respond? Also the discussion was about the effects of porn. Do you think porn is the main cause that inexperienced men struggle to get hard during the rare occasional chance of sex they get?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:22 AM
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So instead women should get with men who insult them in bed and don't appreciate them right? ?? where do you get this from lmao. I don't buy these men are nervous when these are the same men insulting women for their looks in bed ??? to the Reddit posts. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/19 12:00 AM
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Men are making their dicks not work then expecting sympathy. It's normal for inexperienced guys to struggle with getting their dicks to work through anxiety and stress. 0 sympathy to inexperienced guys, so instead just go and fuck experienced chad and complain about stds and no commitment right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:52 PM
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Those people are extremely rare lmao. This doesn't apply to 99% of porn users.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/19 11:05 PM
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they get to fuck women with no commitment women always talk about the top 20% of men as if it somehow resembles men as a whole. Average men aren't getting to fuck women without commitment lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:47 PM
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What leads to romantic attraction: similarity, reciprocity, security, or beauty? Evidence from a speed-dating study. The strongest predictor of attraction for both sexes was partners' physical attractiveness. Predicting Romantic Interest at Zero Acquaintance: Evidence of Sex Differences in Trait Perception but Not in Predictors of Interest Only the responders’ perception of the targets’ physical attractiveness predicted romantic interest; specifically, responders’ who rated the targets’ physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 08:48 PM
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Imagine only starting to try and lock down a partner after your most attractive and fertile years are over. Plenty of girls at my age (24) saying how they aren't even considering getting children untill they are atleast 30yo. Birthrates are going to get real low this generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:55 PM
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How do you learn anything about approaching, flirting or escalating when you can do anything you want with ugly/fat girls and they will still kiss/fuck you because you are hot? Waste of time and sex with people you find unattractive tends to be unenjoyable. Starfish sex with hot chick >>> enthusiastic ugly chick sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 07:02 PM
2

Yeah imagine wanting and exploring your sexuality before you are 25yo?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 06:57 PM
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No this is not what women want. The man's physical attractiveness is always #1 priority and it's not even mentioned here lmao. What a fucking joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:41 PM
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You know, talking to them and seeing that they put 0 effort into finding a man and reject dates/approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:35 PM
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They aren't that uncommon. Around my age (19-23yo) there's plenty of girls that simply don't seem to care at all about sex/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 03:15 PM
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Life is even better for ugly single guys. You aren't even ever asked by friends or family, when you are getting a girlfriend or married. Everyone already knows that there's no chance in hell you ever will so nobody bothers you with that anymore. No expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:45 PM
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There's also hot single women who don't get laid but are satisfied. Since they have clear options to, but don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:42 PM
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makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:41 PM
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best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:39 PM
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The quantity part is only when women are selecting on looks/life. They want a man that is better than them in every aspect of life and they can get that very easily when they are young and attractive. The quality comes then when going on regular dates with one attractive man: To dinner, to the cinema, go jogging together and do a city-trip and then have sex in a hotel-room. How is this low quality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:37 PM
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then piss off
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 02:32 PM
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What do you mean with superficial? Lots of people date seriously through tinder. It takes 0 effort for women to install tinder and plan your entire week full with dates. See 10 different guys, pick the best one that you fit with and go. Most men are way too sex-starved to afford pump n dump. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships, and therefore also the gatekeepers of a large part of the cure to loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:37 PM
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If you're below average looking, you don't get to fuck above average women Escorts, what's so difficult to read?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:57 PM
1

Victoria secret models have visible muscle, especially their abs, because of their low bodyfat. Considering they are the ideal female beauty right now, they are exactly as the statues portrayed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:45 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:33 PM
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When did beauty ideals even change? Ancient rome/greece is filled with lean, ripped, toned statues of men and women. But I suppose you mean 'those few painters that were paid to draw rich fat men and their wives' somehow indicating a change in beauty ideals lmao. It promotes a narrative that beauty is a social construct, when all the evidence points towards it being intrinsic and culture adapting to that intrinsic part of humans. Babies are already judging adults and paying more attention to wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 05:27 PM
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You can do that with a male friend, gayboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:10 PM
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Right, so your advice to the bottom 40% of the population is to become top 40% looking and date top 40% girls. I will tell my 5'2 balding janitor this, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 04:10 PM
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How is it fake when you are fucking her and cumming in her?! Anyways whatever man, if you don't like it, it is fine, but your arguments are not making much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:22 PM
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Idk what you are on about. You don't have any other options to fuck attractive women when you are below-average looking lmao. Whatever man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 03:09 PM
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Sure, but not everyone has your level of testosterone that they are fine just jerking off as a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:57 PM
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Yeah I'd rather go for some fat chick as a wife that complains all the time and don't want to have sex. Instead of that 20yo slim bodied girl who won't complain and will at least act being into you and orgasming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:54 PM
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Depends on the country I guess. Prostitution is legal here and higher class escorts are generally clean and dont associate with criminals as it would ruin their lucrative business. I remember reading somewhere that it's easier to catch STD's of random club/tinder hookups than from escorts/prostitutes as they tend to check up on themselves more often and are more likely to use condoms. Besides, the damage of a bad marriage/divorce can be absolutely devastating, much more so than an STD can ever c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:38 PM
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What people need is real intimacy and nurturing. Waking up next to someone who actually enjoys sleeping with you. That type of thing. Right, and how is a below average man supposed to get a wife that he enjoys waking up next to?! Just because fucking escorts isn't the top ideal (The bluepilled fairytale happy wife kids family is) doesn't mean that isn't the best option a lot of men have. Besides it is a lot safer aswell, since there's no chance on divorcerape and being stuck in a dead-bedroom sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:22 PM
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It's called a coping mechanism and helps people deal with struggles in life. You will also find plenty of people saying 'money doesn't make you happy' , 'looks don't matter', being famous/popular doesn't mean anything, etc. It's because they lack those features and it helps them cope with their inferiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 02:07 PM
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The girls where I live call confident ugly guys 'creeps' so I would be very suprised indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 10:21 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:53 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:53 AM
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Confident 5'2 balding janitors stealing my girls smh, I can't compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 09:53 AM
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Moneymax and then fuck escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 08:37 AM
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I don't really care about n-count. Hooking up with some guy/girl when you're drunk in a club isn't really that impactfull at all in someone's life. I've had plenty of hookups myself and don't really care about any of them: the type of relationship I had with my ex still lingers on though. So I care more about the type of relationships she has had in the past. Having a 6-month 'relationship' with a guy where she's just a side-hoe, being treated poorly and used for sex, but she sticks around becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/19 12:58 AM
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Most things are more 'catastrophic' to men than women. See for example the reproductive succes of people with mental disorders: https://i.redd.it/gqrnmuljq7141.png For every single disorder, the male was doing worse compared to non-disorder individuals relatively speaking than the female compared to female non-disorder individuals. So I would say it's more important for men to NOT be ugly compared to women, but once you surpass a minimum treshold looks become about equally important for men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 07:30 PM
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On average they are much better looking, but you are right that the genetic elite is often different from the financial power elite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 04:48 PM
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More ugly people at high complexity majors aswell, since they are trying to compensate for their shitty genes. So you will see less dating/sex since people being ugly makes it less interesting overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:31 PM
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The elite needs new worker drones. I personally wouldn't mind people like me being sterilized whilst receiving a monetary compensation so that the world becomes less ugly over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 03:15 PM
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The blackpill elephant in the room is that nobody is attracted to ugly people, whether male or female. So when you are ugly and people tell you to go for your 'looksmatch' they tell you to go for a passionless, loveless, affectionless, sexless relationship with someone you are not attracted to. Brutal world we live in. Become attractive or suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:47 PM
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I don't really understand your and many others' fixation on n-count. Having personally slept with some drunk women at parties that I didn't find particularly attractive but was like, whatever: It meant very little/nothing to me. Besides that, it's just sex, one time. It means little to you the next day and 1 week later it is forgotten. If you have a FwB/LTR you have sex many times over the course of a long period of time. There's more of a connection involved, feelings of love, bad feelings when…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/19 02:41 PM
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He looks in his early thirties and still has a NW0 hairline, most people in their twenties here don't even have that anymore. Decent jaw. Decent eye-area. Good width and squarish shape make it look masculine. Overall quite decent looking, especially considering his age. He also brutaly mogs his date in that video fragment lol, what would you rate her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 10:00 AM
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? elab
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 09:33 AM
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If you grow up ugly or even average-looking you won't be having any type of romantic or sexual interactions whilst growing up. How are you supposed to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:19 AM
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Nah, most guys that are struggling are simply ugly to slightly below average looking (bottom 40% in looks. So guys that look like Adam and worse.) that have an average lifestyle (so no real money/status and just an average plain personality.) Think some average corporate accountant that watches TV when he gets home, goes jogging once a week if the weather is good and likes to work on his motorcycle in his garage on saturdays and go for trips every once in a while. Nowadays doctors try to put eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:30 AM
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More masculine as having sex improves testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:10 AM
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Judging from the photos: Mark is about average-slightly above, so 5PSL(7/10 normie scale). Adam is slightly below average, about a 4PSL (6/10 normie scale). Mark will be more attractive to women, he also looks to be more robust aswell from just those photos. Mark will get more swipes on tinder if they both used similar photos. But if this was the only photo used, I would guess Adam with slightly more swipes because Mark's photo has shit facial expression + worse clothing and angle from the side …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 05:04 AM
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And still the largest part of the population will reject or heavily downplay this.
/r/BlackPillScience02/12/19 11:51 PM
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This. People will keep saying that it's your approach/behavior that makes you creepy instead of accepting the obvious truth that you are too unattractive to behave sexually/flirty and be accepted.
/r/BlackPillScience02/12/19 11:51 PM
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East European male here: Was told education is everything, looks mean nothing and one should focus on comfort/hygiene/low maintenance appearance only. Physical activity is whether I care about it as a hobby or not, not important.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 09:22 PM
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There are no ugly guys, only lazy ones. Too lazy to get a hair transplant, fillers, jaw surgery and leg lengthening surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 02:35 PM
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Roid guys aren’t attractive. https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/researchers-tested-which-male-body-shapes-women-find-the-most-attractive-its-not-good-news-men/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29237852/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/19 01:19 PM
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This. Lol at this bullshit notion of 'women are more complicated sexually'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:51 PM
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I am sorry but you sound incredibly bluepilled. I’m not a gym enthusiast, but I know people who are frequently have to deal with struggles and disappointments like not beating their pb, injury and having to learn to take time out and care for themselves, rethink their approach, make peace with their limitations and adapt, become more creative etc. You can have this kind of personal development with any kind of hobby or activity, not just the gym. But that will not make you more attractive to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 07:00 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 05:30 PM
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Nah, attractiveness is still the first priority even for building a relationship as is evident from a shitton of studies on this subreddit. But yeah, other things matter aswell after attractiveness.
/r/BlackPillScience01/12/19 03:29 PM
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Note that for every single issue, female reproductive success was affected less than for the male equivalent. Life for men with any issues is tough as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 03:28 PM
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No. Lifting is about losing bodyfat and gaining muscle. This increases your physical attractiveness and with better looks comes more confidence. Physical attractiveness also seeps into every single aspect of your life as it matters everywhere. That geeky computer programmer has been disciplined and working on his programming skills for years. He is extremely confident in programming and in talking about it. But all that discipline and confidence will dry up pussy faster than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 03:25 PM
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This. It's mostly guys in the average-below average range that are generally ignored. But if you are low value you will be treated with open hostility, bad-mouthing behind your back, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 07:16 PM
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tall boys were popular with girls good looking boys were popular with girls jocks were popular with girls muscular guys were popular with girls charismatic guys were popular with the girls nerdy guys were not popular with girls socially inept guys were not popular with girls I didn't witness any of this. There were tall ugly guys that weren't popular with girls, there were good-looking socially inept guys that were still popular with girls, there were hot nerdy guys that were popular, etc. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 02:44 PM
1

it's not just sex though. Women can jump into relationships with plenty of men from tinder whenever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/19 11:52 AM
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Au contraire, the women ARE looking for relationships Where? Lmao. Speaking as a 24yo: Even at social dancing lessons there's more men than women where I live. Every speed-dating event I have been to had been closed off to male participation, because there weren't enough women. Every club/bar has more men than women, and most women there aren't looking for a guy. Online dating is 3:1 in favor of men. I have been travelling Europe in hostels and there are 2-3 times more male travelers than female…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:35 PM
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?? Few women are looking for relationships in general compared to men. It's not just on dating apps that there's way more men than women looking for relationships. It's a common occurance at any bar/club and hobbies aswell. I know way too many men that started doing social hobbies that have more women than men, just so they could try and get a relationship. Women don't do such things, they simply don't care about being single. Women don't need men anymore, because they can get all they need from…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 12:16 PM
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So the problem is that women have no libido and/or have 0 interest in (sexual) relationships with men. There's 5 times as many men looking for relationships compared to women, that's a huge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/19 11:22 AM
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Your genes and how attractive they make you look are what counts in mating, and genes = luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/19 08:45 PM
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You are not making sense. A guy that has a lot of options like you claim they do, wouldn't put up with a woman like that. There are plenty of nice and loving women to choose from if you have options (be attractive).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 08:11 PM
3

Hahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 06:41 PM
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MGTOW=MSTOW. Men Sent Their Own Way. No good-looking person that is attractive to women will have these kind of experiences. But I do know that when you are ugly, the average woman will treat you like you are a lesser human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 05:58 PM
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You forgot that we live in a society. A lot of the costs of unwanted children are a burden on society. A single mom is therefore being a massive asshole and burden on taxpayers. So no, it is in society's direct interest to punish people that make poor decisions like this to reduce the chances of them making such a mistake (again).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 07:21 PM
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Yes because women are standing in line to start families with stable career men instead of some narc bodybuilder deadbeat they are gonna get left behind by? Single moms deserve 0 pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 03:10 PM
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Not sure why you are defending people using sex to improve their careers. Imagine being an actress and not willing to sell your body to get a role in a movie, because you are not a whore. Then you see these women whoring themselves out and getting the role instead of you. And 20 years later they will complain that they were 'victims'. What a disgrace. They even dare to call it 'rape' when they did it voluntarily and always had the option to say no like you did. I have no idea why you would defen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/19 09:18 AM
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Blame #MeToo for emphasizing media attention to women that fuck their way to power and then regret it and take no responsibility for the consent they gave. You see photos of these 'victims' smiling with their 'rapists'. At any point they could've just left the scene if they were so hurt by what was going on, but they didn't: -They didn't mind the 'rape' as long as they got benefits from associating with the 'rapist' - Metoo is a fucking joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 08:46 AM
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Why would you not be misogynistic if women have treated you poorly in your life? Imagine loving that what hurts you lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/19 08:17 PM
1

Just because she doesn't want sex by the 3rd date, doesn't mean she isn't interested in you. Yes, it could mean she's still interested in your money and attention. No sane man wants a woman that isn't interested in him sexually though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 06:46 PM
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TLDR: Men are always responsible and the asshole. So stop giving a shit about what others think because as man you are always to blame anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:50 PM
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Women aren't even comfortable holding your hand or giving you a simple hug fully dressed when you are unattractive.. it's extremely cruel and the reason why ugly men become rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 05:49 PM
1

Unless 'building yourself up' means getting ripped, rich and famous you are not going to get any better luck with women. A surgeon/engineer working 60 hours/week to make 200k/year, which means you are neither really rich and are stressed out asf, isn't anything women like either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 10:00 PM
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Because you're a woman you refuse to acknowledge half the male population is incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 08:27 PM
1

Yes, I am in denial. Elderly grandmothers are being catcalled on the streets! Why have I not noticed!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 08:14 PM
1

yeah once in your life as a joke, i quess that makes this argument invalid right? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:10 PM
1

They'll catcall anyone from prepubescent school girls to elderly grandmothers. They'll catcall the disabled and men walking with their boyfriends and husbands oke so you were trolling all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 05:09 PM
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You're an attractive woman so you've been living in a fantasy world your entire life. Imagine living life on tutorial mode, but ending up spending your time on reddit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 09:22 AM
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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0012/7116/9124/products/5c52fce9a9bde830c1638a7a4a93dc5a.jpg?v=1543999563
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 08:52 AM
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You don't go out looking like a slut, you don't get catcalled. Being attractive and the results it causes is a choice, because making yourself unattractive when you don't want attention is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/19 12:47 AM
1

This. I wish I was gay, unfortunately I was born straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 08:11 PM
1

That wall of text and all you care about is this line: I wouldn't be getting ALL of the same benefits as a single mom, but it would be manageable. lol, why am i wasting my time here. its over for redditcucks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 04:43 PM
1

substandard in my country = good life quality. Also not talking about wellfare neccesairly but single-mom life as a part-time worker, whilst leeching every single social program and benefits you can possibly get. Get impregrnated by a good-looking man, get subsidized maternal leave, send your kid to subsidized child daycare till it can go to the subsidized and free public schooling system (which is of good quality). If the child has medical problems it is paid for by the state (Free health-care …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 04:36 PM
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I am and here women and their offspring are taken care off by the state, meaning your money and ability to provide as a male is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 03:23 PM
3

any western country
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/19 02:56 PM
1

If ideal partner preferences affect how people evaluate potential romantic partners in their everyday lives, then participants (on average) should be more attracted to opposite-sex friends and acquaintances who happen to match their ideals than to those who mismatch their ideals. However, as in the speed-dating studies reviewed above, ideal partner preferences exhibited little predictive validity. [...] which indicates that physical attractiveness predicted romantic desire regardless of particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:11 PM
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If ideal partner preferences affect how people evaluate potential romantic partners in their everyday lives, then participants (on average) should be more attracted to opposite-sex friends and acquaintances who happen to match their ideals than to those who mismatch their ideals. However, as in the speed-dating studies reviewed above, ideal partner preferences exhibited little predictive validity. [...] which indicates that physical attractiveness predicted romantic desire regardless of particip…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 11:10 PM
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Or in other words: Your attitude and personality are insignificant compared to your physical attractiveness in dating and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 10:44 PM
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You have another ~40% of men in the middle that gets little to nothing and is usually dry for several years before they 'get lucky'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 07:34 AM
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Make society more dangerous and less forgiving. Men are much better in dealing with shitty dangerous life circumstances. Remove all social welfare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 01:00 PM
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You also see movies and tv shows portray men as more violent, aggressive, more criminal. Does that mean that men are like that because of those movies, or could it have to do with the differences between men and women, hormones and stuff? Are you saying that before TV and movies became widespread, women DID approach men just as much as men approached women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:45 AM
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You don't see that in movies/tv shows, because it doesn't happen. It would be unrealistic. It has nothing to do with conditioning. Women do ask out men btw, but that generally only happens when you are at least significantly above avg looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/19 09:26 AM
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However in this world, due to societal pressures women are often taught to not chase men Not sure what you are talking about?! Never heard or seen any of this ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/19 10:38 PM
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Attractive people date attractive people. It's very uncommon to see a significant difference in looks between romantic partners. So if you want to date a hot girl, then looks are literally all that matters because 90% of men won't even get to the treshold to date a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 11:06 PM
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Yes chad just lives. He was born with good facial bone structure, tall height, white skin and a good hairline. And pussy just falls on his lap naturally while he goes through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 01:48 PM
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I take a look at my filled bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/19 08:10 PM
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Because you don't like socializing with jocks/strangers or muscle building sports? As a man you are not going to have an athletic body unless you do specific exercises/a sport that involves muscle hyperthrophy. You like running long distances? Women don't care. You can enjoy running and cycling and you will not look more attractive to women for having good cardiovascular strength. Same with socializing. I was part of a frat that had more the 'jock type' guys in them, but I was also part of a ner…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 02:07 PM
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Women want highly educated men that sit behind a computer all day and do white collar work. That's the expectation on men. But you also need to have the body of an athlete and the charisma of a social leader. Even thought those things are of little use in today's professional world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/19 11:50 AM
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STEM is filled with incels and bottom 30% men. They are contributing more to the economy, science and society than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/19 09:32 AM
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This. I don't think women realize how much men inhibit themselves sexually and physically to not come across as creepy, get jailed or be penalized otherwise. If men were truly themselves you would see a lot more sexual assertiveness but also violence. EVERYONE wears a mask.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/19 12:51 PM
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Imagine being a young man and wanting female affection, but you are not able to get it (Ugly/Autistic). That's the worst case of entitlement basically according to this sub. Low value men should kill themselves is the message being sent across.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 09:42 AM
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It's getting pretty taboo to flirt with women in the western world aswell ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/19 07:43 AM
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I disagree. When the threat of starvation is real, people that notice are likely to step in. Besides, begging on the streets for 2 hours will get you enough money for food for the day easily where I live. Starvation is a non-issue for those kids, it's merely a quality of life question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/19 10:07 AM
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? I am advocating policy change which is what we are discussing here. 'when if ever men start protesting government handouts to single moms'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/19 08:55 AM
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Dating a single mom is a show of low value for the man, because he couldn't get a women with less baggage in a better situation. It's the same as men getting praised for dating hot girls and shamed for dating ugly fat girls. Or for women being praised for dating hot/rich guys, etc. 'How is he with her, she can do better. etc'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:49 PM
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Or do you think low income children should starve to death? No, but I don't want my tax money to be spent on it. Fund it with charity or whatever. Starvation is a worst case scenario and I accept that possible outcome as a consequence of refusing to spent tax money on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:42 PM
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https://www.joe.ie/life-style/amount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:40 PM
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The data ive seen showed a larger increase for men: >https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/1111607604348805120/photo/1 https://www.joe.ie/life-style/amount-men-30-not-sex-nearly-tripled-past-decade-663846 But yeah, I think it is a huge problem that is only getting bigger. It will have huge consequences for society. From a male perspective I know a lot of men will start 'dropping out' of society and becoming NEETs/herbivores similar to the situation in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 04:24 PM
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Statistics showed that 28% of 18-30yo men haven't had sex since they turned 18, a rough approximation of virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 03:41 PM
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Well they should include incels in my opinion. Therapists are more expensive than sex workers and I honestly think a sex-worker together with therapy would do way more than just therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 02:23 PM
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? what is this cope lmao If incels acted more like assholes instead of self-pitying, depressed and shy nerds IRL they probably wouldn't be incel in the first place but actually get laid. You have a clear lack of awareness of dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 01:53 PM
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? weird argument to make. Disabled people don't get social welfare to cure their disability, but to help them live a normal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 01:49 PM
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Incel communities are filled with suicidal depressed men. Practically any incel can be considered mentally disabled unless you think mental disabilities are a joke. It's bad that there isn't mass subsidized sex-work for incels already tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 01:20 PM
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Are you saying mental disabilities aren't real?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 01:15 PM
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Considering a third of the male population is incel nowadays, we are going to need a lot of subsidized sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 12:00 PM
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I want a subsidized sex worker aswell, women are too hard to deal with nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/19 10:59 AM
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Smoking weed in a park on a summer evening sounds much more romantic and interesting than going to a restaurant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:49 PM
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College aged women have sex with men the same age and older, up to like 35 years old probably. Men don't have that privilege usually, because older women don't find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:43 PM
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Can't think of many cheaper activities to do than smoking weed. Sounds ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:36 PM
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Opposite for me. Younger girls are less experienced and have less expectations. If you are a girl's first you don't have to measure up to anyone, because you are all that she knows. When you date older more experienced girls you are constantly being compared by her to her past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/19 11:12 PM
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If you don't want to get raped you hide and/or find a strong male to protect you. It would still be fair game. For men you would be risking your life every day aswell since there would be huge competition for raping girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:29 PM
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This. Tax romantically succesfull people (aka attractive people) and give the money to the ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/19 11:26 PM
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So a tall guy wanting a hot blonde with big tits isn't shallow. A short guy wanting a hot blonde with big tits is shallow. Ok?! The only conclusion is that everyone is shallow, but only attractive people can afford to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:33 AM
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So your argument is that attractive people are entitled to attractive partners and ugly people are not? And people shouldn't feel sorry for ugly people failing to get attractive partners, regardless of whether they can do anything to change their situation? I am not disagreeing with that last statement, because the world simply is what it is. Similar statements can be made about the entitlement of poor people towards rich people. Black people towards white people, women towards men, etc. It is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:28 AM
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Why is it an entitlement problem when the short guy isn't any less entitled than the tall guy? They both want the same: a girl they are attracted too. Unfortunately for the short guy he got genetically fucked out of that. For fat girls it's different since being fat is a consequence of lifestyle, not genes. But the same argument applies for genetically ugly women I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 11:13 AM
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You keep toning it down to 'just hugs' while I am arguing about an overall disparity that taller and smaller people face in quality of social/sexual interactions of which hugs is a clear, but limited example. If you are not willing to see my argument with this in mind then I am not surprised you are never going to agree with me and there's not point to further discussion. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:48 PM
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'It's just hugs.' Well in the case of jobs, 'it's just a job. It's not like that person can not find a different job elsewhere or train himself in a different area of employment. So what's the problem? It's just a job at a specific company. /s The gender wage-gap is around 8%, that's not very large or significant at all either and I don't find it hard to argue that social exclusion, which ' not getting hugs ' is obviously a small part of, is a bigger detriment to life quality than 8% wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:40 PM
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Every preference we have in that regard could be considered “discrimination”. Because it is. A white straight male could prefer to be friends with other white straight men. This is just social discrimination so it's fine according to you right. Morally and legally. But then when he prefers to have white straight male colleagues in his OWN privately owned business, because he will be interacting with them a lot on a daily basis, then it becomes illegal and morally bad at the same time according t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:27 PM
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That's petty and mean spirited, not a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:19 PM
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So you are basing your values on the laws of the country you reside in and whether it is legal or illegal to do a certain thing. If that's your thing, sure why not. I think most people base their values on other things. Also don't make this into a strawman by making it seem like: 'it's just a hug' and not just one of many ways short people are being socially and sexually discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 12:08 PM
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"I am getting the things I want, so who cares about incels: the bottom 30% of the male population.' - most people on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:39 AM
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Why would JK Rowling rely on Beta Billy's paycheck?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 11:07 AM
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'I prefer hiring straight white men' is not anti-women/race rhetoric either then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:58 AM
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except that women are getting wealthier and less dependent on a man's income. Which is what I was advocating against in the first post you replied to? I am not talking about current reality, learn to argue smh. Life should be made expensive and brutal enough so that single moms are not able to have kids and provide for themselves and their kids through a job at the same time. Abolish funding of many public services and abolish all social welfare; paternity leave, public healthcare and schooling,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:50 AM
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So you are saying all kids born right now are born to chad and raised by beta billy? Nope. You are thinking in complete black/white which leave 0 space in arguing with you. The situation you describe would occur LESS (not disappear) with bigger differences in wealth/income between beta's and alpha's. Life will never be perfect, just closer to an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:40 AM
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Who cares, it would lead to a situation in which beta billy would be more sexually desirable even if it's just for show or to bait him in. At the same time, poor Chads would get less desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:34 AM
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If people don't care about the bottom 35% suffering in terms of social and sexual validation I don't see why those same people advocate for any social welfare. Let the bottom 35% in income/wealth suffer under poverty: survival of the fittest. Beta-Billy will get more sex appeal again as dumb Chad jocks will be poverty-struck/homeless more often. Single mothers and their babies would starve so women will be more cautious again about who they will be having babies with. It would solve most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 10:20 AM
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Chubby girls will always score below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 12:32 PM
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the data is inconclusive regarding whether it even shows rising "inceldom" or not to begin with? Because nothing in the graphs you linked mentions the causes for the reduced sexual activity. Do you even know how young men function and what testosterone does to your brain? There's no way these men don't want sex, so they are involuntarily celibrate, incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:23 AM
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How does Finnish culture differ so much from Anglo Culture that this data is unuseable. Does Anglo culture differ too much from the culture in France? Germany? Italy? Spain? Perhaps the culture difference between different cities within England are already too large! We can only use data that's been collected in the city you live in. No wait, everyone knows that one bad district in the city that has a different 'culture', that district must be skewing the data! We should only look for data from …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:41 PM
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What reason do you have for assuming they are not? What reason do you have for assuming they're incels instead? Where's the data to back it? What reason do you have for assuming they are? What reason do you have for assuming they are not incels? Where's the data to back it? You didn't just cherrypick that data because it supports your existing views, you are an expert in all world cultures? Give me a break. Apparantly you need to be an expert in world cultures to interpret data that clearly show…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:35 PM
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Myeah I am sure they are all sexually inactive due to religious reasons. Lmfao, I am not suprised someone as unworldly as you has no idea what Finnish culture entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:05 PM
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You want to bang your wife you grab her and bang her. What's the problem? Marital rape laws are the problems. You will lose everything you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:58 AM
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Btw if you feel used by "giving" sex and getting nothing in return, that probably mean you use sex as a transaction tool, he didn't use you, you use yourself. This. All women are prostitutes, they just have different prices: One wants merely your money, one wants your money and emotional investment aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 11:56 AM
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Because all women are bisexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 09:05 PM
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How old are you? The amount of men that struggle with dating/sex is growing rapidly and hardly an insignificant minority
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 01:21 PM
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there is no such thing as 'equal pay'. Male and female pay are not comparable. Why are all you feminists obsessed over who has 'higher' payment? As long as men are more willing to work at a higher skill-level, work more hours and and work more competitively than women, men will have the upper hand in PAY. That's it. Discussion over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 01:15 PM
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Truth is harsh. Whether it's sports, carreer or enjoying leisure time. Most men would much rather do all that with other men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 12:29 PM
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This. Must be nice when being yourself is good enough to get into relationships. A lot of us men don't have that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 12:27 PM
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No, it's called human instinct, human nature. We are biologically wired to want to be sexually succesfull and derive confidence from that. You can't trick nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 11:13 PM
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I am only 23yo and already lie on tinder and put 21yo so I can match with more 16-18yo's. Age is just a meaningless number so why limit myself by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/18 06:40 PM
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What world do you live in where 3rd wave feminism has no problems with women choosing to use their sexual attractiveness? Not this world. Or are you saying that something like banning grid girls from the F1 sports is not third wave feminism? Because this explanation for it definitely sounds like feminism: Yes, the 'grid girls' chose to do it, and yes they were paid for the pleasure. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a man or woman deciding that they want to take on a job with little real pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 05:34 PM
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Most transgenders are M->F , because being a woman is easier than being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 07:34 PM
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Getting sex once/twice a year is pretty much incel tbh, and this is a reality for a majority of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 08:59 PM
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80% of single men are incels sounds about right. I doubt more than 20% of single men are able to regularly obtain casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 08:36 PM
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ANY guy can raise his SMV enough to secure LTRs from average or better women. If you are willing to put in a very large amount of work, yes. Getting jacked is an entire lifestyle that takes ridiculous dedication for example, but it's a requirement for men that are facially ugly and/or balding at young age to become atleast average looking. MOST guys can raise their SMV enough to be chad status - it takes a ton of work. Hell no. Becoming a chad is genetic: height, frame, facial bone growth, hairl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 12:11 AM
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Sure, go to the gym, get a hairtransplant, get plastic surgery, wear shoelifts for height, etc. Maximize that SMV. But most men are not willing to go to such lengths. Getting jacked without steroids is an entire lifestyle shift that requires years of dedication to see good gains. Why make it harder for yourself if you can simply look for a better sexual market place, like the guy in this vid: https://youtu.be/LJVWc0SdzAE?t=501
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 11:41 PM
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With below average height and face, your SMV ceiling will be mediocore at best when you're fully jacked and ripped from steroids. I agree that maximizing SMV is very important, but you can always do both: Look for a good sexual marketplace, while also improving your own sexual market value. White men are worshipped in asian countries for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 07:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJVWc0SdzAE "'In Thailand there is no fat girls, the issue of obesity is almost non-existant. When a girl has a nice, petite feminine body, she doesn't think it's attractive; she thinks it's normal. For a girl, having a slim body is not much of a good selling point, because every other girl has it.'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 06:34 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 06:25 PM
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Part-time working wife. My ideal household would be both of us working part-time, so we have plenty of time to chill, enjoy hobbies and raise the kids together. Fuck a 9-5 desk job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 05:45 PM
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Because going after mail order brides is something only losers do. Not my fault I was born ugly, and thus born a loser. Why submit to my genetics when I can have a goodlooking wife and give my children a better life than me due to them getting half of the goodlooking genes? And do you really think those women will stay with you once they get their green card? I don't know and don't care for now. Good life today is more important than whatever happens later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 04:05 PM
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Or work on becoming more attractive already did and doing this. Why can’t you date a 5.5/10 woman in your country? 5.5/10 women reject me in my country or play hard2get. Why not make it easier by going abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 03:47 PM
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I wish life was like you think it is. That ignorance about the importance of looks. Atleast I am not lieing to myself and saying they don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/18 10:11 AM
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If only career chasing women would spend time taking care of their looks here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 09:15 PM
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This is how young women should look like and what should be average tbh. When fat becomes average, society isn't functioning properly. Women dating older men could just aswell be called the unfortunate side effect, for young men, of women's obsession with older men with more money and status. Can't blame this all on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 07:52 PM
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Yes it's me. My body matches. I am not short, just average height in the netherlands: 6'1. Another good reason to leave from here since my height would be an advantage abroad I guess. Tinder profiles were normal, not too much text or even no text at all. Noticed no difference whatsoever. I can not date slim and attractive girls here. I am generally told I come across as intimidating and old-looking (people estimate me to be in my late twenties) so that might be a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 07:46 PM
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Workout 4-6 times a week, low kcal diet to stay lean and build muscle, style my hair with a multitude of products + hairdrying it into shape, morning+evening skincare routine including cleaning, exfoliating, applying a serum and moisturizing, shaving+grooming. Perk is that I can speak polish and look polish due to parents originating from poland. Guess I am gonna return to my roots.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 07:40 PM
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Yeah, the total lack of loyalty from woman remains a problem. Guess one has to replace her for another when she starts cheating/negging then. It's not like her looks are valuable either when it's that easy to get a new import woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 07:11 PM
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So you're saying un-looksmatched couples will rarely workout basically? Trying to trade any form of SMV (money, status, personality, etc) for better looks in your partner is futile since it brings an imbalance in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 06:53 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/mqQR4ot.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 06:01 PM
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You do realize that the 4th guy from the top is 7/10, right? Lol. That was pretty bad math for someone who claims to be in the STEM field. You didn’t even need a calculator for that, literarily counting with your fingers would do. Nah, normies over-rate. You are very unlikely to find a 8 or higher, and a 2 or lower, in a random selection of 10 men or women. Most people will fall in the 3-7 range, with most of the people leaning towards an average 5. Being slightly above average will put you arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:56 PM
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Because giving a woman the idea that you are planning on long term, aka acting like a beta, is a valid sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:36 PM
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The problem is not really that men on average are better looking than me here, it's that she is much better looking in comparison to dutch women. Which will cause higher SMV men to start giving her attention. Gotta make sure to dominate other males in her social circles to make them stay put.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:35 PM
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she just wants the nice stuff your resources provide. She's basically a hooker. You can call all women hookers then, since all of them want something in return for giving sex and usually its socioeconomic status/wealth. who will do what you want and then go away without expecting you to meet her family, hold her purse at the mall, and all of the other crap that goes along with having a girlfriend? Because I actually want this girlfriend stuff? If all I valued was sex, I would've been fucking hoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 01:45 PM
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No, but I've gotten more indicators of interest in 4 days there than in an entire lifetime here. Just gotta make use of it when I go there later this month.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 01:41 PM
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if you were a 7 you'd be fucking 7's. Not in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 01:41 PM
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If what you're getting is a woman who is just using you for your resources What makes you think this would be the case though? Girlfriends cost money everywhere: sex is never free. Even if I get an unattractive here it's gona cost me and she'll be using me. Except in Poland I could get a much higher quality one compared to here. Taking her out to dinner in Poland would hardly put a dent in my wallet as it's 2-3 times cheaper as here, meanwhile she would think I am spending big money on her. Seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 01:11 PM
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I have acquired a reasonable capital and therefore a reasonable passive income. If I work and save hard for another 5 years, I would have a passive income that's higher than an average 40-hour workweek salary in an eastern european country. I am very privileged for being born in the netherlands tbh. Born in a poverty struck family, but given ridiculous opportunities to climb the socio-economic ladder. Too bad it just sucks here in terms of the sexual marketplace, ability to form relationships wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:52 PM
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Hooker in my country is 150 euro, hooker in poland is 35 euro. A flight to poland is 10 euro when you book 4 weeks out (long live budget airlines), hostel is 5 euro/night (Eastern Europe is ridiculously cheap). It's cheaper for me to fly to Poland, fuck 2 hookers, eat fancy dinner (also cheap), sleep at a hostel, fly back. Than it is to fuck 1 hooker here. And then I am talking about the capital of poland, Warsaw, hardly a shitty place to be. The youth speaks english there, but I know how to spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:47 PM
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Yes, so my SMV is much higher in Eastern Europe then than in the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:22 PM
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I would date my lifestyle-match tbh (low bodyfat, workout 4 times a week, take care of hair/skin/clothes). A girl my age doing all those things instantly seems to bump her into hot territory and out of my range though, which is just bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 12:21 PM
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So you would be willing to risk loyalty, just because the woman is “hot”? If I am not attracted to the woman I am going to be with for the rest of my life and have sex with exclusively, I'd be willing to risk HER loyalty by dating above me SMV. That's correct How ironic. Coming from a 5/10 male. Male hypergamy at its finest. 5.5/10 PSL score. so slightly above average. (Normies would rate me a 7/10 I suppose). If you have a room with 10 guys and sort them on attractiveness, I would be the 4th gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 11:03 AM
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Looks is just the first barrier. I value compatibility and personality a lot aswell. If she's not nice and fun to be around, it's a big no. I wouldn't marry just for looks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 10:53 AM
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True, which is really nice when you're poor. But if you're among the top in terms of education/career, I think the US is a better place to live, because such things become very easy to pay for with the difference in salary/taxes at higher income.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 10:51 AM
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Big issue indeed. One would have to hope she's not willing to do that. I don't think all women would cheat in such situation. Alternatively you move to her country instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 10:50 AM
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Money doesn't even play a role yet since everyone's still studying, but if that's the case I fear for the future here. higher than 25% is fat tbh and that's about 25% of the women in higher education in the netherlands. But anyways, so you agree with me that if one wants to score above a 5.5 looksmatch you need to look abroad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 10:48 AM
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So you're saying there's a chance she cheat on me as soon as I would bring her here? Still better than no chance at all to find an attractive partner I guess. I have no interest in a relationship with an unattractive woman. Average in the west = fat, unattractive. So perhaps completely moving to a better country is better, instead of bringing her here where her SMV will skyrocket comparatively with fat western women. I'd rather earn less money, than have a less attractive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:44 AM
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Sure, but if you're gonna betabux with your 30yo 98th percentile income anyways, you can pick whatever you want I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:39 AM
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Pussy isn't that expensive either though. I've found attractive escorts for 40 euro's/hour in Poland if the sites are legit, when it's 150 euro's/hour in the netherlands. For those prices you don't need to be rich or attractive for regular sex with high SMV women. So it's more about compatibility for a relationship at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:36 AM
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Worst case: I'd rather beta for a polish 6/10 than a dutch 4/10 I guess. I will definitely hit up some bars next time, we only had time to do 1 pubcrawl with other tourists last time I was there. It helps that I can speak polish, although with a sorta broken accent lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:34 AM
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You're right. Tax rates in Western Europe are ridiculous and salaries quite low compared to the US. Won't be easy to get into the US though I believe, would love to live there. I happen to speak polish, so that's why i'll probably try poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:29 AM
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Yeah, that exactly the problem. So can this problem be solved by finding love elsewhere, because the west seems like a pretty bad place to find love for a majority of young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:25 AM
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Scores are relative though. If in the west half the women are overweight and therefore in the eyes of a lot of men, undateable, that makes finding an attractive non-fat girl very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 05:23 AM
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Where, in the west or in more poor countries? Girls my age (20-23yo) don't seem to care about career prospects here. I am just a student in their eyes. Besides, it's not like a STEM job will make me incredibly rich. It will probably take till my early thirties before it starts making a big impact in the way I can spend money compared to people with 'normal' jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:55 AM
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Girls seemed to be more responsive and of higher SMV though. Generally when I match a high SMV girl in here, she will instantly ghost me as she will get flooded by messages, not there. Perhaps different way people use the app there? Idk. Either way, I think it's worth trying. Not much I can do as a young man to improve my SMV/RMV anymore than I already am here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:53 AM
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I was only there for 4 days, of which I only started messaging girls on the last 2 days. Will be back there later this month to see how it goes in practice, but the amount of matches/attractiveness and responsiveness seemed promising. 2 girls told me to hit them up once I am back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:46 AM
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Truth, something to take into account I guess. Avoidable by indefinitely postponing marriage I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:44 AM
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Perhaps poor countries were the wrong word. I visited the capital of Poland personally, which I wouldn't really call poor and that's where this experience is based on. The youth worldwide seems to be able to speak a bit of english in most parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:44 AM
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Attractive for me means: slim, styled hair, some make-up, dress feminine. Those are quite rare here in the netherlands indeed, but I had no trouble finding them in Poland.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:40 AM
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Well I seem to have no problem with finding that in Poland, judging from the difference in tinder activity. 2-3 matches with unattractive girls in the netherlands a week. 20-30 with attractive girls in poland instead. A 5.5/10 is slightly above average btw. When I am in a nightclub I would rate myself just among the top half of the guys in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/18 04:38 AM
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This. Men living in a western country have no idea how much value they have in asia/south america. Get out of the feminist west, move to SA/SEA and enjoy being a chad. You can do whatever you want there: loyal girlfriends, casual sex or find a young traditional wife that will love you. Start reaping the benefits of globalization boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:57 AM
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'Looks don't matter much'
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 06:04 PM
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Getting bullied and rejected because you're ugly, doesn't help you develop a good personality. It makes your personality worse. Same with being treated better because you're good-looking. There's less reason to be bitter, introverted or fear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:33 PM
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Getting bullied and rejected because you're ugly, doesn't help you develop a good personality. It makes your personality worse. Same with being treated better because you're good-looking. There's less reason to be bitter, introverted or fear rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 07:32 PM
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Being good-looking helps you develop a good personality. This directly opposes the common idea that being good-looking makes you develop a shallow/unpleasant personality. It's actually way more likely to develop a bad personality when you are bad looking due to the way you are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:56 PM
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Allright
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:47 PM
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"3) Is beauty only skin deep? NO Beauty is more than skin-deep: Although both attractive and unattractive people exhibit positive behaviors and traits, attractive people exhibit more positive behaviors and traits than unattractive individuals. However, We do not yet know why. Perhaps because attractive and unattractive people are treated differently, they learn to behave differently."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:46 PM
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Wrong, merely being attractive gives you respect. When you are attractive it is: 'You are given respect, untill you prove that you are not worthy of it.' When you are unattarctive it is: 'You are disrespected, untill you prove that you are worthy of it.' Brad Pitt says it himself: Being attractive opens doors. It doesn't keep you inside the room, but it gives you a lot of opportunities. For less attractive people, they don't even get those opportunities. The don't get to prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:16 PM
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Yes, you need to have an interesting face and body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:14 PM
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Why are you making this so personal? Did my words hurt you? Also lol @ talking to me like you even know me. I would've loved to have parents in my life, just like you. Piss off, idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:13 PM
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Yes, like I said it's a derivative of your mind, although it's mostly luck in practice (80% of millionaires were millionaires already at birth). It takes time to build wealth and wealth makes more wealth. You'll be 30 years old by the time you are significantly wealthier than counterparts born in similar socio-economic backgrounds as you. And you won't compete with kids from higher socio-economic backgrounds. The benefits of being attractive in contrary, are immediate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 04:07 PM
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I would love girls to be 'fake nice' to me by giving me free blowjobs and casual sex. I would love guys to be 'fake nice' to me by agreeing with me and thereby giving me emotional and social support. Inviting me to parties, giving me opportunities, making me meet great people, getting coaching, etc. Chad doesn't have to be competitive by default, he has won in a lot of ways by default. Brad Pitt fucking agrees, back in 1996 when looks weren't even as important as now. https://www.youtube.com/wat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:34 PM
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Oke, bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:28 PM
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Well it's gonna shock you, the study that 'conclusively proves that preference are that similar' is the study I link to in my opening post. Page 9, Table 3, Meta analysis of Reliability. 95% Confidence intervals of 0.9 shown for adults rating adults for example. What does it mean? Roughly, that 95% of ratings fall within 0.1 , or 10% of the mean rating. (someone rated a 5/10, 95% would rate within 4.5/10 to 5.5/10). Now what will you do with this scientific fact that preferences are that similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:59 PM
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People with better looks earn more money than uglier counterparts. I'd rather be a good looking engineer than a bad-looking one. I would rather be wanted for what I am, my body and mind, than for the obtainment of a derivative of that, which is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:48 PM
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You are not understanding that 96% of people have the same personal preferences within 0.7 of an average rating humanity would give to a person. Personal preferences only account for 0.7 of a person's rating from 1 to 10, what is there not to understand about this? A person that really, really likes brunnetes, would in such scenario give a brunette merely 0.7/10 higher valuation than someone that has no preference for brunettes. An unattractive 3/10 would still be an unattractive 3.7/10. An attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:38 PM
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I think you are replying to the wong post mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:29 PM
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Ofcourse, therefore the conclusions are quite mild but still refute a lot of claims made by users here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:28 PM
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Mean standard deviations on individual attractiveness ratings are merely 0.7. If you you don't know what that means, let me explain it simply: Standard deviation (96% interval) means that 96% of the people, rating someone on a scale from 1 to 10, will rate within 0.7 of a person's average rating. So say, someone's average rating is a 5/10, then 96% of people will rate that person within 4.3/10 to 5.7/10. If a person's average rating is a 8/10, then 96% will have rated that person between 7.3 and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:17 PM
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https://www.featurepics.com/StockImage/20120805/average-guy-stock-picture-2308708.jpg He's slightly below average for his age I would say, but improving his looks would benefit him far more than any game ever would.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:15 PM
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Most people however, will judge an average person as being averagely attractive. It's as simple as looking how big standard deviations are when people judge attractiveness, aka how many and how big outliers in ratings there are. Take a look at this figure: http://images.lesswrong.com/t3_lj2_7.png?v=cf1e3d6828df119ae37728a568323eab Mean standard deviations on individual attractiveness ratings are merely 0.7. If you you don't know what that means, let me explain it simply: Standard deviation (96% …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:05 PM
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Just because there are “standards” that cross cultures and have scientific data agreeing they signify genetic fitness doesn’t mean individual preferences are identical. True, but how does that make objective appearance ratings bullshit? I am not taking the quotes out of context as the discussion is about how it is impossible to make an objective universal rating. If there are universal standards by which facial attractiveness is judged, it is possible to make a universal rating system on facial …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:49 PM
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Depends on whether nuancing is relevant, which it is not in this discussion. Personal situations are always nuanced and never the same, but when speaking of general dating strategies, preferences, sex and gender issues, etc. universal arguments are most usefull.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:43 PM
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Depends on the definition of blue/red/black pill I guess. And replacing theredpill with 'Become as good-looking as possible' wouldn't be useless as you say. Redpill is in between blue and black pill in terms of how they interpretate the importance of looks. From little (blue, personality is king!), to medium (increase your SMV and lift weights, but also get game and hold frame! ->red), to black (Looks are by far most important!)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:39 PM
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Who is Atlas? "Objective" appearance ratings are mostly bullshit because of preferences." 'Contrary to common assumption, adults and children agree about who is and is not attractive, both within and across ethnicity and cultures. Instead, There seem to be universal standards by which facial attractiveness is judged." I don't see how you can't see the discrepancy between these 2 quotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:33 PM
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Always wrong. Because reality doesn’t care if you think you’ve found out some kind of absolute truth. Reality isn’t absolute. Universalist arguments don't need to be absolute truths. They merely need to be applicable in a broad sense. Dangerous. Because they will simplify reality for the people that believe in them, allowing them to become disconnected with certain’s other peoples views of life, making it harder to empathise with them. Applies to any form of common opinion, ritual, behavior and …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:29 PM
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Exactly, that would be a waste of an OP, which is why that's not my position nor is it the conclusion of the scientific data.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:20 PM
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Show me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:17 PM
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I have budged on my stance with you many times already in my replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:16 PM
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I mean, all an attractive man has to do to get laid is taking a bathroom selfie, installing tinder and say: 'Hey girl, wanna bang?' copy-pasted to the 100 matches he gets on his first day. That's also an exception though. But yeah, improper behavior can really fuck up your sex-life even when you're good-looking. But developing such improper behavior is less likely when you are good-looking, and such behavior being completely detrimental to your sex-life is also less likely when you are good-look…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:13 PM
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What's your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:06 PM
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RP is filled with scientific facts which BP rejects, as shown in my opening post. I have never read or seen the wolf study that you refer to, but I agree with you that there's a lot of bullshit in RP aswell. Most of which is not supported by scientific research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:06 PM
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That's why I am studying nuclear fusion engineering I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 01:01 PM
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I don't get to tell someone telling me I am disconnected with science and rationality that he is wrong? What's your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:57 PM
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There's always exceptions, yes I agree. But what's the point of looking at rarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:55 PM
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Where do I talk about boob size, hair, muscle mass or arm pit hair? Do you deny the hard scientific conclusions that people in africa will generally agree with people from the west on which people are attractive or unattractive? Looks like you are rejecting hard scientific facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:54 PM
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Yes they do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:48 PM
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Sure, the title could've also been that. I agree. Most people in society are bluepilled afterall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:48 PM
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Oke? Having a term to describe behavior has nothing to do with agreeing or rejecting data from a study about wolf behavior lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:47 PM
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Read my response to your other reply. You are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:37 PM
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Yes I do get to label people as per this own subreddit's jargon. " RP is a praxeology (a way of understanding actions in the world) that deals with Sexual Strategy. It seeks to explain human sexual relationships within this framework, and this framework is in disagreement with the general understanding of society in these matters (hence, taking the red pill). " The scientific research I quoted in my main post rejects common myths and misbeliefs that people have about looks and their impact. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:36 PM
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No, you are wrong. Universalist arguments are the most important and usefull as they apply to most situations, environments and people. Just because a fat guy got a stunning girlfriend somewhere, doesn't mean anything as overall it is way more likely to get a stunning girlfriend when you aren't fat. ---> Universalist argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:26 PM
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Bluepill is considered believing in convenient lies, Redpill is considered believing in the unconvenient truths. Whether the people rejecting scientific data call themselves redpilled/bluepilled is irrelevant to me, as rejecting these scientific truths is bluepilled by definition. That's how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:22 PM
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""Objective" appearance ratings are mostly bullshit because of preferences." directly rejects the first scientific claim in the research I cited. "here are too many variables and everyone has different preferences and "types" that they tend to be attracted to." Again directly rejects scientific claim number 1. "You are projecting your male thinking. To women it's way more about " rejects the last scientific claim where physical attractiveness is as important for men as for women. I agree with yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:19 PM
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Shows that even some RP dudes are still bluepilled in ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:15 PM
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Quoted some people directly rejecting these things in a reply to another person in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:13 PM
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I quoted some people in a reply to another person in here that directly reject these scientific conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:11 PM
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Behavior could follow your looks though: "We do not yet know why. Perhaps because attractive and unattractive people are treated differently, they learn to behave differently." And don't forget about the halo effect that makes bad behavior from attractive people seem less bad than bad behavior from unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:10 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/9qiw7g/what_percentage_of_women_actually_go_for_their/ Top posts in here for example: " [–]Wandos7naproxen Fully agree on both points. "Objective" appearance ratings are mostly bullshit because of preferences." " [–]blackedoutfast this "looksmatch" shit is just pointless incel autism. attraction doesn't work that way in real life. there are too many variables and everyone has different preferences and "types" that they tend to be attracted to. i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:06 PM
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By saying that beauty is less important then it is, an ugly looking person will get better results. I disagree. Telling an ugly person to do everything he can to improve his looks (perhaps even including plastic surgery) will provide far better results than telling him to adjust his behavior, getting out there more often, etc. 'Just be yourself' actually works if you are not unattractive. I do agree that this realistic worldview makes the world look like a shittier place than believing in the bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:00 PM
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Bullshit. If anything you have more right to complain about gold-diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:26 AM
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Or third option: Get a young girl from a less affluent country.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:25 AM
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Some women liking you is better than little to no women liking you (experience of the average man). So getting as muscular as possible, one of the few things you have some control over, seems like a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 10:02 PM
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As always, watch what girls do, not what they say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E42ruq_xLEM Girls literally go insane and horny over his looks, which is something incredibly rare for men to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:15 PM
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I don't see how this is compareable to the pictures of the ridiculous beast muscleman from the opening post. He doesn't have a fucked up face from plastic surgery, nor does he have synthol injected fake muscles. Something like this: http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/604025/84920345.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 02:47 PM
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last time I saw a guy that big and lean at LA fitness he had a cloud of 9/10s literally orbiting him Always look at what women do, not what they say. Girls saying they don't like overly muscular guys are usually coping with the fact that they themselves are too unattractive to get such a guy, so they shoot them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:25 AM
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Pictures of bodybuilders are made at peak low bodyfat % after water fasting, usually with a pump+flex going on aswell, to make your body look as extreme and veiny as possible. I can guarantee you that a bodybuilder with his 'normal day to day' physique is pretty much peak body attractiveness to women and something any man would aspire to look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:21 AM
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If grotesquely over muscled bodies were unattractive, you wouldn't have people like connor murphy getting as much female attention: https://www.adonyxcoaching.com/hosted/images/b9/cfa1e0672611e7acaccf8145dd3756/Screen-Shot-2017-07-12-at-1.21.35-PM.png Also, lingerie models like adriana lima are also extremely attractive to men. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CRgo3cGPgY4/Tiz0WYlKXhI/AAAAAAAASig/tFq4T-EG7WU/s1600/adrnewvs1.jpg So no, you are seeing it waaaay too black/white. There's very, very high ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:56 AM
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That's what you get when the whole world becomes more feminine and guys have no male role-models anymore and are being told daily that being a man and being masculine is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 12:08 AM
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Why not? Are they physically unattractive, socially awkward? Nope, they are fit, some of them have visible six-packs and are perfectly able to hold friendly, funny, casual conversations. They don't come across as awkward or shy at all. They don't act flirty or sexual with girls though as it's considered inappropriate in modern day culture it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 11:04 AM
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So? So stop pretending like the SMP isn't fucked and stop denying 80/20. Also it's ridiculous to think that not getting sex isn't a big deal in the West when everything below sex in Maslow's hiearchy of needs (Healthcare, money, food, shelter, education, a job) are taken care of by the state and pretty much guaranteed by just being born here. Happiness and life quality is always relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:53 AM
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You are basing this only on your specific social circle? My social circle consists mostly of university students that I know from my sports association and fraternity. What do these guys you know actually do to find hookups? They go to clubs/(house)-parties/bars atleast once a week, mostly 2-3 times. Most of them don't play videogames and neither do I. See I also know some guys for whom this is true but they don't actually make any effort to meet girls in the first place and almost without fail …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:47 AM
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Agree with you. The idea that an average man is enjoying casual sex beyond getting lucky once every few months is ridiculous. People here are completely delusional as to how sex-deprived an average man is in between relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:28 AM
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Yeah this is only true for the USA and their obesity problems. Overweight girls are standard <5/10 in europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:25 AM
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Those are minor flaws though. Looking average (not fat, not lean, just do jogging 2-3 times a week and/or casual fitness), having a few friends and going for drinks with them once a week, but not being the extrovert type of guy, having an average job and living on ur own in a small appartement... How is that supposed to exclude you from dating/fucking an average non-fat girl? If being average is now considered 'flawed' according to you, then that just proves how fucked up the SMP/RMP is nowadays…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 10:24 AM
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What do you think about this french incel movie fragment: https://streamable.com/6vlmu
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 04:26 PM
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Denying the existance of lookism is similar to claiming the earth is flat. I don't know how retarded you have to be to reject decades worth of research that proves lookism. I don't know how sheltered you have to not have seen it happen yourself in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:59 PM
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Only people triggered are you and the mods banning incels from posting even in purge week lmfao. Talk about being triggered much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:51 PM
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Cope, it's all about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 03:51 PM
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List of 10 studies confirming lookism I just posted Still rejecting it and refusing to look at the obvious truth Sub 100IQ detected.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:19 PM
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I am just lowering to your cognitive level of discussion, considering you reject scientific research and facts on lookism, sweety.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:11 PM
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Pick one. The population of incels happens to be the largest among the most smart and scientific part of the population. Aka men studying STEM. So you are rejecting all of the above studies and its conclusions? Fucking hell, the drugs must've contaminated your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:45 PM
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Aka bullshit. Denying lookism is as dumb as saying the earth is flat. You can't fucking reject decades worth of scientific proof that lookism exists you low IQ retard. Go read some fucking papers: Internalization of perceived views of others are likely reinforced by the observable differences in the treatment people receive. Specifically, differences in attractiveness result in differential treatment: More attractive people are given preference over less attractive people as measured in greater …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:29 PM
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Women are attracted to good-looking men and the confidence good-looking men obtain by being valued socially for being good-looking. It's not rocket science buddyboyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:40 PM
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It is different because poor people legit struggle to get money together for basic needs Nobody said life was going to be easy. people can tell if you are a minority and discriminate against you as a result. No one knows you're a virgin unless you volunteer that information. People can't tell if you as a minority are being discriminated against unless they observe it themselves. No one really gives much of a shit. It's not something random people can see on you and discriminate against you for. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:38 PM
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Yup, but it's no different than poor people failing to make a living. Minorities failing to deal with discrimination. Women failing to deal with sexism. And so on with every issue people face in life. Difference is that incels get shit on and get absolutely 0 support in life, whilst all these other victims get praise and all kinds of programs to help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 01:01 PM
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Are you incel? In case you are not: The way you make fun of people with autism and shit on depressed virgins is all the proof anyone needs that personality doesn't mean fucking shit. You are a toxic piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:53 AM
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More like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne6p6MfLBxc "In a near future, a lonely writer develops an unlikely relationship with an operating system designed to meet his every need." Incels want love, not sex. Otherwise you could just visit a prostitute and be over with it. Would love to have an AI girlfriend in my life like that. Real women are too bitter, jaded and shallow for such an intimate relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:35 AM
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Toxic masculinity is a must to appeal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 02:40 PM
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Ofcourse you are not a 9. What scale are you even rating on, 1-10? If you are a 9 on that scale you are a worldclass model that is basically perfect. Which is exactly why normal people can't rate whatsoever. 'Oh you are attractive, 10/10 !'. So that leave no room open whatsoever for anyone to ever be better looking than that, wow such good ratings, so usefull. truerateme uses a 5/10 looksrating as average (most people!). At 2/10 you are hideously ugly (obese level and/or deformities) at 8/10 you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:30 PM
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rateme is bluepilled garbage where nobody dares to rate legitimate ugly people anything worse than 4/10. You can be obese with an acne filled face and still get 3/10-4/10 ratings there, when in reality you are like a 1/10. Any average, young girl that is not fat is like an automatic 7/10 on rateme.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:03 PM
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Ugly people can't have body dysmorphia. And it is very natural to obsess over an asthetic flaw you have when you realize the huge negative consequences being less attractive has to your life. Like, how can you not feel like total shit about the way you look, if you look at this vid and realize you have a loser wimp skull? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxwKibwHYEw
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:01 PM
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Differential Treatment Internalization of perceived views of others are likely reinforced by the observable differences in the treatment people receive. Specifically, differences in attractiveness result in differential treatment: More attractive people are given preference over less attractive people as measured in greater employment opportunities and higher pay (Hamermesh, 2011; Hosoda, Stone-Romero, & Coats, 2003). Many different types of interaction partners, including parents and children (…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:57 PM
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Differential Treatment Internalization of perceived views of others are likely reinforced by the observable differences in the treatment people receive. Specifically, differences in attractiveness result in differential treatment: More attractive people are given preference over less attractive people as measured in greater employment opportunities and higher pay (Hamermesh, 2011; Hosoda, Stone-Romero, & Coats, 2003). Many different types of interaction partners, including parents and children (…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:57 PM
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Differential Treatment Internalization of perceived views of others are likely reinforced by the observable differences in the treatment people receive. Specifically, differences in attractiveness result in differential treatment: More attractive people are given preference over less attractive people as measured in greater employment opportunities and higher pay (Hamermesh, 2011; Hosoda, Stone-Romero, & Coats, 2003). Many different types of interaction partners, including parents and children (…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:56 PM
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Disagree completely, speaking as an incel who went from 4/10 to 5.5/10 looks-rating (lost 30lbs) the difference in how you are treated socially is RIDICULOUS. 'Just showing up' at a social event will get me invited, greeted and befriended. Before that, I wouldn't be invited to those places, and when trying to interact with people there, it would be helle hard to build some sort of positive connection. I finally understand how normal people don't understand how people can become social outcasts w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:53 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 03:11 PM
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As long as women see sex as a 'price' to give, and men have to 'earn' this price, dating will always remain predatory as there's a clear value/power imbalance. Also, I have no idea what you are 'concerned' for these young women for, as you have offered exactly 0 explanation of what there is to be concerned about in the difference of when a 30yo dates a 16yo, or a 20yo dates a 16yo. You call these 30yo manchildren, so if anything, they should behave and be quite like the 20yo in the case of datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 01:01 PM
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I agree. Morality, what is 'right' or not, how we 'should' behave or not, how society 'should' be or not. It's all pretty much irrelevant to the individual that is a man browsing TRP. He should behave in such way as to maximize his own happiness. Bitching and moaning about female nature, society, feminists, etc. is not the way to happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:21 PM
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As a man, why put in more effort (harder to seduce a 35yo woman than a 16yo girl) to get a smaller price (35yo woman are more bitter, less open to new experiences, have less energy, less attractive than a 16yo girl)? Guys always prey on women, whether she's 18 or 35, since women never take initiative in dating and see sex as something they need to sell for the highest price as possible. You are the prey. I have no problems with you not wanting 'overgrown man children', but I think it's bad of yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 12:06 PM
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That teen girl is not any worse off than if she would date a guy her own age, so for morality this is also just fine. Most people getting angry at men dating (much) younger women are older women that realize their dating privilege is finally ending. So they get bitter and angry. Just laugh at older women lmao. Most feminists are older women aswell because attractive young women are very well aware that they are immensily privileged. Bitter hags.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:01 AM
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Everyone is attracted to the same hot girls, at some point a lot of people will realize those hot girls are out of their league, so they lower their standards to average or even slightly below average girls. Now you have the incel who is ugly, and can't get average girls at all as they are disgusted by him. Can you really blame him for not wanting to settle for a really ugly girl or landwhale? He can't help it that he was born ugly, he can't help it that is not attracted to ugly women. Most of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:04 PM
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He wasn't good-looking lmao. He was average facially, a manlet, and a hapa. He also had autism. Step 2) Trigger female instincts that make them love low inhibition psychopaths/assholes/murderers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:30 AM
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I agree, but I do those aswell. I also do: Full body workout 4 times a week and cardio 3 times a week, Intermittent Fasting routine (18 hours of fast/day, 6 hour feeding window to boost human growth hormone + Test levels), perfect macronutritional tracking. Female standards are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:25 AM
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Yeah, ER fucked up anyways. Aleks Minassian did much better, he has basically ascended. Which is why we don't hear anything about him anymore to hide this magnificence from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:22 AM
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ER=Elliot Rodger Go ER = Go on a killing spree before killing yourself. Know your memes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:19 AM
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Good theory. Serial killers and murderers in jail have a lot of fangirls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:17 AM
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Yes, once they lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:12 AM
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We're all gonna die.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:09 AM
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Can't deny that I wish I was. Being instinctively attracted to female human organisms is a curse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:08 AM
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Cope. I am a top athlete and workout 6-7 times a week, sub 15% bodyfat. Still incel cuz of female standards tho
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:07 AM
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I've put it on 'looking for men' and experienced what it's like to be win the gender lottery at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 10:00 AM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 09:51 AM
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Disagree completely. Not identifying this as a serious problem at the age of 16 already is really bad as sure there's a chance 'you grow out of it', but there sure as hell is also a good chance you don't grow out of it. No reason to take such a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:50 PM
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Science is not on ur side, aka, reality is not on ur side: https://labs.la.utexas.edu/langloislab/face-perception/maxims-myths-of-facial-beauty/ Is beauty merely in the eye of the beholder? NO Contrary to common assumption, adults and children agree about who is and is not attractive, both within and across ethnicity and cultures. Instead, There seem to be universal standards by which facial attractiveness is judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:45 PM
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There's a very big difference in being a virgin at 16, or being an ugly unwanted kissless virgin that has never even gotten to close to any sexual intimacy with a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:43 PM
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This lol. Look at a random class photo of 16 year olds and you can already pick out the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:35 PM
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Could happen if surgerymaxxed or he was fat asf tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:34 PM
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http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php Things like this, from the above studies: intelligence correlates with less sex within marriage for the same age range. But higher IQ had a similar relationship across the entire range of romantic/sexual interactions, decreasing the odds that teens had ever kissed or even held hands with a member of the opposite sex at each age. IQ appears to delay sexual activity on into young adulthood. Not only do intelligent people have a dela…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:30 PM
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lol? IQ is actually negatively correlated with sexual and romantic success and this has been shown by a multitude of studies. Idk about conscientiousness though, but I have my doubts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:22 PM
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Looks is strongly correlated with charisma anyways. It's not hard to become charismatic with women when you get a lot of positive responses from women because of your looks. Same way in that it's very easy to become uncharismatic when you are rejected by women very easily due to your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:20 PM
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TRP will grow in popularity together with incel growth. You are wrong in thinking that TRP growth is slowing down due to incel growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:17 PM
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Tell that to all the ugly women passing on their genes tbh. We have enough sexual selection among guys already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:14 PM
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Lol @ thinking you're not behind already when you're a 18year old kissless virgin. What is this delusional retardation. Half my class had kissed by the age of 13, half of them had sex by the age of 16. At the age of 18 you're pretty fucked not to have atleast kissed a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:13 PM
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This, you can very much be incel at 16yo already.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 08:12 PM
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REDpill theory is extremely beneficial to virgins and basically boils down to: Become as physically attractive as possible. Start flirting and sexually pursuing women. None of that 'become friends first' bs. BLUEpill theory would be absolutely useless, because you wouldn't be virgin late in life if sexual theory didn't matter and you could 'just be urself'. Apparantly being yourself is so extremely unattractive that you happen to end up as a late life virgin, so fuck that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 08:41 PM
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Her claim was "Your average man is having sex". "Men: Fuck around in college with hot carefree girls, live comparatively carefree life." This is what she originally stated. She is clearly projecting the life of an average woman, which can get sex with attractive men on demand, with that of the average man, who struggles to get casual sex at all. That's bottom 20% (unmarried). You proved the 50th percentile unmarried man (average) is having sex. Also 15-21%. The sources in that link disagree. Lar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 05:05 PM
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The real world and it's inequality, discrimination, bullying, social rejection, child abuse, etc. can't compete with videogames. The future of humanity is living in virtual world that are better than our dystopic reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 04:21 PM
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Please provide proof of your claim that average men are having the sex they want with hot women? Here's some proof for my statement: 21% of young men haven't had sex in the past year: https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim Up to 1 in 6 26yo men still virgin: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/06/millennials-turned-sex-study-suggests-one-eight-still-virgins/ Average men stand absolutely no chance at all on Tinder: https://medium.com/@worst…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 01:49 PM
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Men: Fuck around in college with hot carefree girls Hahahahahahaha, nice joke. Only the top 20% of men get to live that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 01:00 PM
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Yes I did, but I was heavily encouraged by my own parents, other family members and by society, to see this as shallow and something to be avoided. I was also told that caring about looks is something that men did when they judged women, while women would care way less about how men look like. Turns out both genders are equally shallow. By focussing my energy on studying and my hobbies (played violin), I would eventually lead a much happier life than these 'shallow' people that didn't have their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 10:54 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw Let's assume this video isn't staged. This video is a perfect example of whiteknights interfering and standing up for a girl, no matter whether she's right or wrong. From personal experience, I don't think this video is staged and these responses in public are easily reproduceable. Especially that last black guy seems to be willing to take it to the extreme to 'defend' a girl he doesn't even know. He sure as hell was looking for a fight and would've go…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 10:00 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 08:05 AM
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I disagree. Men being vulnerable and open emotionally are at high risk of being emotionally manipulated and abused by their girlfriends/wives. I've had female friends, that have been in the same LTR for years, tell me that they like to 'test' their bf's and see how they respond to try and create drama. I get your point of view though. It's in men's instincts to help and care for women with (emotional) problems and therefore for women it's a good thing to open up to get attention. Not for men so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 09:24 PM
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Love/Relationships are about being physically attracted to someone and then appreciating their achievements, hobbies, personality, confidence, imperfections, vision, intelligence, etc. Not the other way around as most women/parents/media have always lied to me. 'Just study hard, just get interesting hobbies, just get a good job, just be confident'- all that advice was COMPLETELY useless because I was ugly and therefore never even considered for a relationship. Without physical attractiveness, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 09:13 PM
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Well, the interesting thing is that my mom and dad only met after he had already recovered from his depression. My dad never told my mom about this past, but she got to know it through other family members eventually and then kept bringing it up whenever they had arguments. Anyways it's always beneficial to make yourself seem as strong, independant, stable, confident as possible. The very opposite of showing vulnerabilities. I actively avoid activities or social situations in which my vulnerabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 08:22 PM
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Brutal conclusions. The average man is absolutely FUCKED to get casual sex. The women that want casual sex can go on tinder and have instant access to the most attractive and highest SMV men. Getting ONS or hookups through clubbing/going to bars is way less popular now. Why go through all that as a girl, when you can just launch tinder and get a guy waaay more attractive than whatever poor average schmuck would hit on your in a bar?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 07:40 PM
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I was referring in the case of my dad to Depression. Not some weird psycho shit, depression is quite a common thing. He saw a therapist and psych for that. It's definitely showing vulnerablity to share that with people. I know now that if you're in a relationship with a woman, and you feel down/depressed, you cannot even share that with your fucking wife. It's disgusting tbh. I would have to go to a therapist and hide that from my wife, hide that I am taking anti-depressants. That's the kinda sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 07:33 PM
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Showing weakness/insecurity/doubt is incredible unattractive as a man. There's no question whatsoever. It's acceptable in some situations, like when your parents die for example. But overall it will negatively impact your relationship. I've seen my mother absolutely demolish my dad on his past mental health problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/18 03:30 PM
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The modern world is incredibly safe and prosperous. Women basically don't need men at all anymore. The state will protect and take care of them and their offspring, so women don't have any incentive to have sex with men anymore, except in case the men is very sexually attractive. This leaves a very large population of men with little to no sex, making them desperate, thirsty and eventually suicidal. Gonna be interesting to see this how this shitstorm develops in the next decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:22 PM
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Ofcourse. Men are acting less desperate and thirsy than ever before. But in reality more men are incel than ever before. Below average looking men are being brutally oppressed in today's society basically. No access to unpaid sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 03:19 PM
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HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Men are more thirsty than ever? Holy fuck, do you even go out ever? Men are more inhibited sexually than ever before. Seeing men approach girls in public or even in clubs is getting more rare every single year.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/18 01:06 PM
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This. Would love to get fuckzoned by a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 03:03 PM
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23yo, went from 4/10 to 5.5/10 PSL. Girls no longer treat me as a diseased tramp, guys literally never give me shit anymore, in new social circles I immediately start out in the top half of the social hiearchy instead of the bottom. Difference has been insane. Unfortunately my confidence and mentality is still that of a 4/10 due to the way I've been treated my entire childhood. But I can finally understand how guys got their confidence and charismatic attitudes with girls if they were treated th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/18 09:52 AM
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Same guy with more feminine or masculine facial features: https://i.imgur.com/IoNLPsN.jpg Women, tell me who you find more attractive, left or right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 01:32 PM
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Pretty liberal and urban here, so probably the age/generation difference then. Only people getting enough sex at 18-24yo seem to be the ppl in relationships in my area and shitton of people are single for looong periods of time. Tinder is mostly used as an ego boost instead of actually trying to find anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 08:13 PM
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Average men struggle to get enough matches, let alone to get dates or casual sex through tinder. I don't know what world you live in where Tinder is a good place to find casual sex for average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 07:55 PM
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I am 23yo and the amount of casual sex among people my age is ridiculously low. I speak to a lot of guys my age and they definitely want it, but they feel like women their age and lower don't want it. Girls my age and younger seem almost asexual, its fucking abyssmal. And the effect is that most guys my age hardly try anymore unless a girl starts acting 'slutty' and making it very clear, which is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 02:55 PM
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have casual sex disagree with you here. Average guys have little to no casual sex / hookups. Even the guys that go for drunk girls in clubs at 2AM only manage to get an ONS like 3-4 times a year. The casual sexscene is completely fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 12:29 PM
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There won't be any sex between humans anymore in the future. Once AI sexrobots and virtual reality sex gets good, which will actually be completely riskfree, you're gonna get a Japan 2.0 all over the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 09:03 PM
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Do you ever get remarks on the cologne you are wearing? I've been wearing Terre d'Hermes, but I have never received a single remark about it. Just wondering about other people's experiences. Whilst I really like the Terre d'Hermes scent I think it sort of smells too professional/serious? Like something you would wear to work, to dinner, to a family gathering, etc. Thinking of getting another scent for more casual situations.
/r/TheRedPill14/09/18 02:51 PM
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I disagree. For men, a very wide range of women is attractive, but ofcourse they will try and aim as high as possible at first. If at the end of the night there's no takers, they will start going for the less-attractive women that are still attractive. Bestiality or having sex with a gender you are not attracted to has nothing to do with this and is just an attempt of you trying to put this positive attribute of male sexuality, less shallowness compared to female sexuality, into a negative light…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:44 PM
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You are just nitpicking about something that OP wouldn't even disagree on. All OP is saying is that the enormous attention on female issues and the total lack of attention on male issues is unwarranted for when you look at how the genders are faring in terms how happy they are. Women have it better than ever, better on average than men OP argues, but somehow feminism is needed more than ever and there can't be enough attention to making women's lives better (at the cost of men's). Male suicide r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:21 PM
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What's the point of recognizing that in relation to the societal scale trends that are being discussed here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:11 PM
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Yes and in the end even the most attractive, rich, loved, highest-achieving, popular person can be hit by a car on his way to work and die. Which is just as likely, if not more likely to happen to your average joe. I don't see the point you trying to defend attractive people and the HUGE privileges they have in life. Young women are the most attractive and privileged people walking on this earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:04 PM
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Attractive people are happier, ON AVERAGE, than average people. And even more so than unattractive people. Also, depression and anxiety aren't simply mental diseases that can happen to anyone as they are WAY more likely to happen to people that have been socially rejected, bullied, loveless, lonely, which is WAY more likely to occur to average/unattractive people than attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 01:54 PM
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Purplepilldebate, where the stereotype of men apparantly is that they fuck goats and dolls when in the real world 99.999% have never and will never do that. I have always found it interesting that men being less shallow in their physical attractiveness standards when choosing a partner for sex is somehow a bad thing?!???! So you want men to become more picky and more shallow and only be sexually attracted to the top 20% of women, just like how women judge men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:52 AM
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There is this assumption that your looks also make you happy. Which isn’t right either Wrong. "Additionally, both attractiveness measures were found to have a relationship with participant’s level of life satisfaction. These findings suggest that physical attractiveness powerfully affects our subjective experience as a human and that just-world beliefs are driven, at least in part, by personal experience with inequality." http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0033294118763172
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 10:54 AM
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If genocide of elderly women and forcing children into state sanctioned daycares is what you got out of my message, you are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:23 PM
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Young men at uni are at peak physical attractiveness, peak energy levels, peak strength and stamina and more. The fact that a lot of early twenties men are having a shit life quality compared to girls is indicative of a large societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 06:22 PM
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Okay..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 04:34 PM
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I am paying taxes so that 85+ year old women (there's more than twice as many women than men this age) can leech society for their final and most expensive years before death. Healthcare costs in my country, the Netherlands, are going through the roof because (health)care for old people is getting too expensive. And those costs are shared among the working population, which is mostly men, because women often choose to stay at home or work part-time once they get kids in their thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 03:03 PM
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Congratulations, maybe one day the rest of the useless leeches from your gender will follow your example. Till then, my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:04 PM
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Waiting on your proof that the average in this case is severely distanced from the median.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:00 PM
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It indeed shows from your behavior that you still expect male orbiters to do all the work for you. Too lazy to click on a link and instead you ask "What is younger and older in this study?". Lazy as fuck. I understand why you don't want to know the truth though, because that would mean you were getting severely underpaid as an escort compared to those 40 year old women getting the same pay as you. Stupid of you, let's just pretend there's no difference in pay and you didn't fail. Well done, you …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:53 PM
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Your definition of struggle is an already rich person, Elon Musk, struggling to become even more rich or remaining just normal rich. My definition of struggle is a poor person struggling to find a place to sleep for the night. You are stuck in a philosophical fantasy world completely detached from reality lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:50 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:47 PM
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Is that why people from poor countries are rushing and taking huge risks, leaving everything behind, for a chance to be able to live a richer life in Europe? If they are so happy from their struggle, why would they risk their life obtaining something that doesn't make them happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:42 PM
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The fact you keep trying to connect older men being attracted to younger women into some sort of incest between a dad and his daughters/granddaughters really shows how fucked up your thoughts are. I expect nothing less though from older women like you realizing your best times are over and you are now turning into an undesirable, unattractive old hag. 'How dare men my age be attracted to women younger than me!' Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:35 PM
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Unless you are planning on killing yourself soon, you are most likely going to be paying a lot less taxes and using a lot more tax money than the average male ever will. Especially since women on average become much older than men, they leech society for a really long time as old hags without value. You should be paying me with your youth for the amount of leeching you are going to be doing once you are older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:31 PM
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Those philosophical quotes hold absolutely no ground in the real world. The best universities are filled with people from UMC and rich households, people from UMC and rich households have the best carreers, live longer, live healthier, etc. Pretty much every study shows that the richer you are, the happier you become. See here: http://www.uvm.edu/pdodds/research/papers/others/2001/easterlin2001a.pdf "As far as I am aware, in every representative national survey ever done a significant positive b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:25 PM
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Stop wasting my tax money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:17 PM
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-018-0142-z "With the exception of Irish escorts advertising for an outcall service, differences were found in all countries sampled with younger escorts charging significantly higher fees than older escorts." Your massage parlour is an exception to how society normally operates then, therefore irrelevant. It's not that nobody cares, it's that the vast majority of young women don't want to fuck men old enough to be their dads (unless they are being…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 01:01 PM
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So you're going to make the claim that people that have it harder live happier/better lives? Such as shame I wasn't born in a ghetto, raised by a single mom on social wellfare, with multiple health problems, bullied throughout my childhood and not growing any taller than 5'4. That's surely a recipe for success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:54 PM
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Boo hoo old men can't get women they are most attracted to. Yes because nobody cares about what men want, female empathy in action. I worked as an escort and in massage parlours for 4 years and over 40s and 30s women were as popular as the young ones. Because old women are cheaper than younger ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:49 PM
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Which means better. I never got this 'if life is easy you become lazy/don't develop properly' mindset. If anything it's the people that have it easy in society that are accomplishing the most as they can focus their energy and time on excelling as their minimum human needs are already met. This whole stereotype of the dumb hot blonde with no personality for example simply ain't true. From my personal experience it's mostly the attractive people that have the warmest and most interesting personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:44 PM
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Men become uglier, less athletic and less happy at older age aswell though. Sports for example is a major source of happiness for men and most men get to see a steep decline in performance in sports after the age of 30. Men are also most attracted to women around the age of 20-25, no matter how old they are themselves, whilst the chances of hooking up or getting into a relationship with women from this age only goes down and down. Meanwhile women don't have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:19 PM
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Considering that in the mainstream there's 0 attention for male rights and problems, but female rights and problems are constantly in the media, it's the women who are salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:00 PM
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But if young women have higher life quality than young men, then his argument still holds that women live happier lives than men as long as female life quality doesn't decrease below that of men in their thirties or later. Which I don't think is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:57 AM
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Women only spend time dreaming about chad and love and marriage with chad untill they're 35yo. Your average man ain't chad so your average man doesn't owe you anything. In fact, women own a lot to average men since women waste their prime years chasing chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:33 AM
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Women live much happier and fullfilling lives on average than men untill both are in their thirties and it sorta starts to even out. Being born female in the western world is much better than being born male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:30 AM
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Not this. He compares these young women at university campuses to young men at university campuses who are also at their 'peak of their life'. Unlike women however, men's life quality in their early twenties is total garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:29 AM
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Parents, both obese and not well-groomed, always told me that looks aren't important. Grew up being encouraged to be fat and plain looking during my teenage years, because caring about your appearance is for shallow people. Never got a single hint of interest from girls ever and was often rejected and made fun of by girls. Fast-forward I moved out and started caring more about my appearance, working out 4 times a week in the gym, etc. The shift in how guys treat you, but especially how girls tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:06 PM
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Highly intelligent men were less worried about STD's and less cautious as they were more likely to visit prostitutes. But yeah one of the correlating factors with high inteligence is less athleticism and lower testosterone levels, 2 things which women are very much attracted to. One could argue that a athletic jock that is also very intelligent would be very attractive to women, but then I would argue that it's not the intelligence that makes him attractive to women, but mostly the athletic jock…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:57 AM
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Your IQ might be important to how intelligent you are, but your EQ determines if that intelligence is considered attractive. So you agree with me that intelligence, IQ, is not a sexually attractive trait and it's all about EQ, aka social skills. Otherwise one could argue that intelligence is always the sexiest traits and one could say something like this: Your IQ might be important to how intelligent you are, but your physical attractiveness determines if that intelligence is considered attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 11:26 PM
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Every mainstream psychologist and psychiatrist will agree that IQ is not an irrelevant part of intelligence and most agree that it's a decent indicator of intelligence. You can go and create new definitions for the word intelligence elsewhere. Especially when you consider IQ to be merely 'knowing something' despite it being an indicator of various cognitive capabilities. Knowing something is more often than not also knowing how to take advantage of something. I don't care how women are going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 10:16 PM
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Intelligence has never been a sexually attractive attribute, in fact intelligence is negatively correlated with sexual and social success. To get empirical evidence of that, one has to visit a STEM university just once and take a glance at the lecture halls filled with 120+ IQ virgin men. It has also been proven by study after study again, such as this one: http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php "Not only do intelligent people have a delayed onset of sexual behavior, H…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 01:32 PM
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Having been ugly in the past is probably the biggest issue of guys that now have decent looks. Since it affects your personality and the way you behave around girls, which are mostly hostile towards you when you are ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 09:32 PM
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You think fit, non-fat incels don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 03:15 PM
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Why should a fit, non-fat man that's in the bottom 20% settle for an obese woman? Obesity is an indicator of mental problems aswell.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:52 PM
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Most men will date a 5-6. But women only chase 7-8's who only want fuck 5-6's and not date them. That's where the confusion comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 02:51 PM
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Yeah and we all hate frighened, unsocialized men right? They deserve nothing but the worst. Another hurdle being added to dating aimed that screws over low-value men? Great! Men comit suicide 4 times as often as women? Great! Toxic masculinity is literally dieing! /s Something like that? The complete and utter lack of empathy for low-value men is eye opening tbh. No wonder suicide stats are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 08:38 PM
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Because incels could dial up a hooker today, but they don't want to, because they believe they deserve a woman. Inceldom is not about paying for sex, but having the validation that a woman wants to have sex with you. Incels don't think they 'deserve' a woman, they desire a woman. And not just a woman in most cases: A woman WAY out of their league. Yes, incels realize that they were born/raised unattractive and therefore almost all women are out of their league. Is it so weird that incels complai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 08:31 PM
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Yes, and when they discover TRP they improve those things. Because somehow society and parents don't teach this basic shit to their kids anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 08:19 PM
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6223123/millennials-shun-sex-as-one-in-eight-26-year-olds-reveal-they-are-virgins/ It's becoming bigger. Also I don't see how this has anything to do with entitlement and why you would bring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 08:16 PM
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Raised by a beta dad and a dominant mother myself and turned out beta and incel. In fact most incels I speak to tell me they lacked a male role model. Either raised by single moms or having a very lackluster relationship with their dad. It's why I fear the incel problem will only become bigger with the rise of single moms and feminized men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 06:04 PM
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https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 In case you didn't see it: https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 01:07 PM
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Good job. Now tell me more about how your personal experience tells you anything about how the world actually works. https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 11:41 AM
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Men are accused of rape when having sex with women when there's a status/power imbalance, even though the women fully consented. Men WILL be accused of sexual misbehavior for saying hello. Not rape obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 11:05 AM
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Nah it's true. Asian men are the least desirable to women and black women are the least desirable to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 08:59 AM
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This. You become more 'desireable' to undesirable women. Not to the 25 yo girls you always wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 11:31 AM
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Prostitution is legal in most of Europe, but it's still quite expensive so not worth it unless you are pretty rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 11:30 AM
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The fact that paternity tests are outlawed in France, Germany and many other countries just shows how gynocentric western countries have become.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 03:18 PM
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Same, different dicussion but I think the world would be a much better place if people started caring more about their appearance than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/18 10:02 AM
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Nah, girls are extremely harsh when they reject ugly guys, but when an average/good-looking guy approaches, he is often kindly and softly rejected. If anything, girls should be rejecting the ugly guys in a soft way, since they are most likely to harm them due to negative halo-effect making them look creepy/dangerous. But that's not the case. Therefore I oppose your idea that the difference between harsh/soft rejections is a matter of a girl considering her safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 11:37 PM
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Statistics in the netherlands say otherwise: "The analysis shows that migrants from non‐western countries, both first and second generation, have a higher probability of participation in social assistance and disability‐benefit programs and to a lesser extent in unemployment‐benefit programs. A large part of migrants’ welfare dependence can be explained by their background characteristics and immigration history, but a significant unexplained residual is still left. Strikingly, the degree of dep…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:22 PM
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How are wellfare leeches going to take care of me when I am old lmao? Immigration will only make the problem worse. If I can't take care of myself anymore and I have nobody to take care of me, I don't mind leaving this world by the way. Don't worry about me. A healthy adult can easily take care of himself till 80yo, I saw my granddad do it. I don't have to live longer than that and be pushed around in a wheelchair and forcefed. That sounds selfish as fuck and a low amount of life quality I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:18 PM
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Then why care about whether we have them or not? We don't need them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:53 PM
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"Race-baiting Attempting to cloud logic and facts by appealing to emotion through false accusations of racial discrimination. A favorite spin tactic of politicians used to manipulate people of low intelligence." How is this in any way applicable to what I am saying? The only person that is making this a discussion about race is you right now. Talk about race baiting..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:52 PM
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No, YOU stop bullshitting. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/un-raises-world-population-forecast-to-9-point-8-billion-people-by-2050.html Africa should be sterilized
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:24 PM
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Why do we need to integrate new arrivals if we can just not let them in in the first place? We don't need them here and there's no benefit for Europeans to letting them in unless they are like the example you gave: Highly educated, rich Indian programmers. If immigration doesn't benefit the majority of population, then don't allow it. Automation will solve any shortage of employees we will have in case of further population decline. And for anything else we have labor-intensive factories oversee…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 11:25 AM
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This is not a shifting of goalposts, this is what 'immigration' looks like in Europe, whether you like it or not. And we are going to get more and more of this as the African population boom keeps going and, gues what, Africa is poor asf and a constant conflictzone, so all these people will be 'fleeing' here. There's shit going on in almost every arab/african country, doesn't mean we should allow them to 'flee' here. Not that they are 'fleeing' anyways, that's a typical dumb leftist argument. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 11:02 AM
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USA's asylum procedures are a lot more strict than Europe's. You can't just get into the USA unless you are already preselected in a lot of different ways. This has completely nothing to do with assimilating the immigrants. http://ktpress.rw/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/migrants-in-lybia-KTPRESS-1024x720.jpg Tell me how succesfull the US will be with assmilating immigrants like in the above picture. 0 education, almost illiterate even in their own language, no money, never been disciplined, etc. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 10:49 AM
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They have their own money plus the government to raise a child on Which is why we need to remove child support and publicly funded child healthcare+education asap. As a single male I don't want to pay for other people's kids. Piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 10:39 AM
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that can be funny if the guy is attractive or just irritating. if the guy is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 10:38 AM
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Immigration from one western country to another has been succesfull here aswell. The problem comes when you let poor/uneducated africans and arabs come to western countries. That needs to be stopped at all cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 10:29 AM
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In the netherlands we have lots of painfull statistics about non-western immigration. Such as the fact that 15 years after immigrating, 70% still has no job and relies on wellfare. Their children will also have higher crimerates, higher wellfare-rates, lower education, etc than native children or children from western immigrants. Only fools will stick their head in the sand and say non-western immigration is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:21 AM
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Yes let's have children to then send them to schools/daycare all day and only see them in the evenings/weekends. Such a healthy family/social environment! Wtf is wrong with this world. Career above everything it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:18 AM
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Proof that not wanting children is genetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:17 AM
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Sounds good. I live in West-Europe and we should just unite the succesfull countries here and do something. Unfortunately there's too many degenerate 'politically correct' voters nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:14 AM
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Fix for what? Why do we need wellfare-leeches here?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:11 AM
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Not true, the drop in Africa's fertility rate has never come for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:10 AM
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What needs to be done is more support for the extreme-right in Europe/USA/Japan because borders need to be closed. As fertility levels drop, the right will want to import as many refugees/immigrants as possible to boost population levels and therefore economic growth. This mostly benefits the wealthy elite. The left seems to always want to import refugees/immigrants cuz 'muh human rights'. We need to close off all borders ASAP so our western world doesn't get filled with ppl from conflicting cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 09:10 AM
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6223123/millennials-shun-sex-as-one-in-eight-26-year-olds-reveal-they-are-virgins/ Up to 1 in 6 26yo's is still virgin. This is both for men and women and it is known that sex is distributed more unevenly for men than for women, meaning that it is possible up to 1 in 5 of 26yo men still being virgin. (INCELS)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:07 PM
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https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2017/02000/Changes_in_the_Distribution_of_Sex_Partners_in_the.5.aspx "Median lifetime opposite-sex sex partners for males between 2002 and 2011–2013 remained unchanged at 5 opposite-sex sex partners[..] We found an overall statistically significant increase in reported lifetime opposite-sex sex partners overall for men in the top 20% from 12 in 2002 to 15 in 2011–2013 (95% CIs, 11–14 and 15–15, respectively). [...] Similarly, there was a statistically…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:05 PM
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"It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 06:55 PM
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Not much considering most of the benefits that a man would give (protection, money, child support, raising kids, etc) are now given for free by the government by stealing money from male taxpayers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 04:35 PM
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You're saying there's no way to become a succesful actrice unless you sleep around with powerfull men? And all of the current succesful actrices must've done this aswell? I call bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 07:56 AM
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to get ahead in their careers these young women basically have to sleep around. This is a woman's own choice, therefore there is no rape or sexual assault and the whole metoo movement is a joke. I especially have no respect at all for women who advanced their career by having sex with powerfull men and then still have the guts to complain about it afterwards. Weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 08:02 PM
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Fuck off with your racist bullshit.
/r/MGTOW23/07/18 01:06 PM
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Being raised with the idea that caring about the way you look past basic hygiene is shallow and unhonorable. And that 'looks don't really matter'. And people that would treat you worse because of the way you look aren't worth your time anyways. I went from being overweight and ugly in my youth, to fit and decent looking in my early twenties. The difference in how you are treated, the opportunities you get, how women behave around you is ENORMOUS. And still a lot of people will tell me that 'nope…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 09:53 AM
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This lol. All he had to do was install tinder, swipe for 2 weeks, get 100 matches, send every girl he matched with a copy-pasta sexual opening msg and have 5-10 women respond positively back and hookup with them.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 11:44 AM
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Now imagine you are 5'6, balding and have been told you look like a creep/pedophile. Women on the street and public transport stay away from you and give you looks of disgust. Groups of guys laugh at you when you pass by them. Now imagine you ALSO have those self-esteem and lack of game issues you currently have on top of this being your day to day life. That's inceldom. Good luck.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 11:39 AM
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According to incels, I should be living in some sort of magical dream world where women throw themselves at me all the time. Coming from someone slightly above average looking: You would have women show interest in you at almost every social event you go to. No, women don't literally throw themselves at good-looking guys, but they would be very inviting and kind to you. But I guess since you have never been ugly you wouldn't know the difference of how privileged you are. but for whatever reason …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/18 11:33 AM
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Literally 99% of people from the opposite gender will reject you if you are fat/out of shape. They don't even need to reject you to know that they would if you would ask them out. So your question becomes kinda weird. Any person that was once fat and out of shape and now became slim and in shape will be dating people that would've easily rejected his/her 'old self'. All these people saying that they wouldn't date such a person and calling them shallow is calling 99% of the human population shall…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 10:40 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_G._Wilkinson
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:32 PM
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only low IQ people blame themselves or personal choices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq1RSZKDS-E High IQ people know that childhood social situations shape the brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:26 PM
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How much personal responsibility does a 12yo have? That's where inceldom is already manifesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:15 PM
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Society is failing incels in that they never gave incels the tools to succeed sexually. Parents are failing, schools are failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 10:31 PM
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I agree with looksmaxxing. If you are an unattractive male who is not trying to hit on a girl, that girl will still treat you like that. It doesn't have anything to do with a bad vibe or any of that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:59 PM
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So basically you want a chad that will commit to you. Oh look, AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 03:36 PM
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Nah. I am a redpilled man. High quality women are settling down with good-looking men, not 'high potential' men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:59 AM
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Women don't care about potential. They see you for what you currently are and judge you based on that, they don't care about your unrealized potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 09:40 AM
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True, but the topic was about standing out from your competition, not from a fat guy that doesn't even compete. For example, what does it take to stand out on Tinder? Not being fat alone is not going to cut it at all to stand out. Not being fat in a college bar isn't going to make you stand out either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:48 AM
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Fat people aren't even considered your competition when you are trying to get interest from a woman. It's like playing basketball and being compared to a bystander. It's irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 10:31 AM
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True I guess. But that's an environment where it's less likely to find people in the right age range that have the time available for your advances. So it's less important there. And even there, fat/ugly people go outside less than average/good-looking people. I am glad that the average guy in a club doesn't look like the average guy at my powerlift gym though haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 09:50 AM
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You are not competing with those people though. Overweight people are way less likely to go to bars/clubs or go to whatever place where there's women. By simply going to a club/bar, you are already seeing the the top ~50% of the population in terms of looks. Although im sure there's some clubs/bars that are exceptions to that, and definitely higher class bars that have even fiercer competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/18 09:22 AM
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Predators care if the prey animal acts confident or insecure though. When you display strength, predators are less likely to attack you. Same if the people you are with do not know about your previous kills and are modest about them. If instead you are boasting about then that will give you a social advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 11:23 AM
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'low t bitch boy problems'? wtf does that even mean. You sound low IQ bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 03:16 PM
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Personality is a result of external factors, but those external factors can again be a result of your genes. Take an ugly looking, very short and small guy, which is mostly all due to genetics. These physical attributes will likely lead to him having a tough social life with this peers and get him bullied. This leads to him developing various personality traits such as shy-ness, being unconfident, lack of social skills, etc. However, if one would put this ugly, small guy among people equally as …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/18 02:49 PM
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Guys with lack of social skills and/or who are introverted, but are safely above average in terms of attractiveness, will have no trouble finding relationships or ONS. On the other hand, being safely below average in terms of attractivenss like St.Blackops2cel, is guaranteed to make you have a very difficult dating life and no ONS potential. Even with great social skills and being out-going.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 05:44 PM
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Physical attractiveness, which is a combination of most of those things you listed. A tall fat guy with a decent face could have some ONS success. Short, fat with below average face? It's over
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:48 PM
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I've been told what to do and how to act my entire life. At school and at home, by my teachers and my parents. Punishment if I didn't listen. At the same time there were also huge expectations on what I should be doing. With punishment when I didn't fullfill these expectations. Somehow though, you are telling me I am free to do whatever I want in life? Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 11:57 PM
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It almost makes me laugh to think people need a strategy other than common sense and be yourself! must be nice being born female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 12:00 AM
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You can't just throw everything under 'mental illness'. Lots of sick/unethical behavior is natural to the human being. It's just that most of us don't come in situations in which we would act that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:25 PM
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Yeah you're right, pre-pregnancies seem stupid. You can just bring semen with you and impregnate the women after you've landed if you need more DNA material. By the time we can colonize Mars, we will probably have artificial wombs aswell so I don't really think reproduction is going to play a role in a decision like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 10:54 PM
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1 doctor for pregnancies would be more than enough lmao. How many patients do you think a doctor has.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 10:45 PM
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Bullshit. Most children are pieces of shit who bully and reject their peers on shallow bullshit reasons. Children aren't any more innocent than adults. If anything, an adult life is worth more, since most adults are actually productive. While children are just leeches.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 08:46 PM
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Your understand of what motivates people and what doesn't seems to be very limited. Let me help you: A monetary reward isn't a very significant motivation drive, let alone the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:49 PM
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Funny, because in my country (Netherlands), a third of gifted people (IQ >130) are on wellfare. Not fitting in socially, being bored and therefore unmotivated at school, not getting the proper stimuli, etc. Making use of your intellect to aquire status and resources isn't that straight-forward. An average 130IQ engineer in the Netherlands only has a net-income 2-3 times higher than an average worker with the same working experience. That's hardly a significant increase in status and resources. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 11:49 AM
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You talk in vague terms like 'having a mission', which doesn't really mean anything. Getting your dick wet is a mission, which you are dismissing. But as you yourself say: 'Being a man is doing whatever the fuck you want no matter how many people tell you not to.' So everyone that wants to get his dick wet, should just continue doing that, according to yourself. Your mission is no better than mine or that of anyone else. So you earn a lot of money, more than me, now what? So you play an instrume…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 04:12 PM
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Being a man is making your own path. Being a man is doing whatever the fuck you want no matter how many people tell you not to. Being a man is doing what you want in face of the consequences. You're a fucking loser because you have no mission in life. Playing video games is not a mission. Jerking off to anime is not a mission. Reading posts on TRP and all of the self help books you can get your hands on is not a mission. No, not even getting pussy is a mission - that is simply satisfying your ne…
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 03:40 PM
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Allright, attractive men are capable of assault or rape, nobody is denying that. However the chance of that happening is much lower for attractive men, than for unattractive men. Hence the title of this post that is clearly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 02:52 PM
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And in how many of these sexual assault cases do you think there was a clear and firm 'no'? In the case of Aziz, there was no clear and firm no. Far from it, I mean just read it here: https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355 That story is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that people didnt laugh in her face about this, but these sexual assault allegations were taken seriously, just shows how messed up this shit really is. So yeah, talking about the grey area, as an unattractive guy you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:57 PM
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Consent is not black and white. As a guy you often have to be confident and seduce, push-through with sexual intimicy when dealing with girls who are shy/hesitant. Otherwise nothing happens when you're not attractive enough to the point where girls will sexually escalate for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/18 01:42 PM
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You're saying average guys face continuous rejection between the age of 12-18?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 11:26 PM
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There's no reason why my school wouldn't be a representable sample of the world though. Idk why were argueing about this though, it seems incredibly clear to me. As clear as water is wet. I could look up my own class on facebook right now, and 5 parallel classes. Get average ratings for all girls and guys on attractiveness and count the number of friends they have on facebook. There would be an incredibly clear correlation between attractiveness and number of friends. Ofcourse people will claim …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 11:20 PM
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What a coincidence then that it was always the ugly people at my school and in my class that had little friends apart from a few equally unfortunate looking people. And it was always the good-looking guys and girls that were social butterflies with huge social circles What a damn coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:47 PM
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The problem with that is that we all have the same standards. This is human nature: Unattractive guys would like to have an attractive girlfriend. And unattractive girls would like to have an attractive boyfriend. You're saying that we should be telling 12yo kids that they were born inferior to others and should stop trying to date kids from the opposite gender that they are biologically wired to find attractive, because they are not good enough enough for that. I mean, that's what you're basica…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:40 PM
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Average men dont face continuous rejection from age 12-18. This is not normal. Most men don't lose their virginity untill the average age of 17 because they are insecure like most teenagers and/or lack of opportunities. They aren't brutally rejected and bullied by girls like ugly guys like I were. Before I was even interested in women sexually, at the age of 10, girls regularly told me that they were disgusted by me and no girl would ever want to date me. Average guys might lose their virginity …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 10:33 PM
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I agree, if there was more persistence then there would be more succes. We're talking about children here though with undeveloped brains and less perseverance than the average adult. Kids start getting sexual thoughts/feelings around puberty aged ~12. If you face continuous rejection from age 12-18 and have parents/role-models telling you that you shouldn't be chasing girls at your age but focusing on studies or whatever, then you're really setting someone up for failure in sexual development. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:45 PM
2

Nationalists don't really exist where I live (Netherlands). People aren't as patriotic here in Europe as they are in the US. Being sceptic of mass-immigration gets you branded as a far-right extremist/fascist/nazi here. Our media is also extremely effective at brainwashing the masses here. Statistics such as 70% of immigrants still being on wellfare after 15 years of living here aren't talked about. Instead they will talk solely about the 30% that did find a job and how well they integrated. May…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:30 PM
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It's what you said in your opening post: In reality it's not clear how to achieve your goals. My parents failed to properly teach me this, neither did my teachers or any other role-model/authority-figure. I focused on school like my parents told me to do. I scored straight A's and was among the top 1% students till I was 19 y/o. I was taught that doing well in school was the way to 'win' at life. Oh boy, I couldn't have been told worse. The world can collectively go fuck itself. I'll be leeching…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 06:08 PM
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This. Being ugly is another disability for which you get discriminated in life. Life simply isn't as good as people make it out to be. If it was then there wouldn't be such a large portion of the population trying to escape it through videogames/drugs/media and other coping mechanisms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:43 PM
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This. Online games have been the most brutal and hard competitive environments I have ever seen. I used to play a lot of MMORPG's and if you would fuck up a raid/dungeon you would get told to go fuck yourself and you got kicked. Same with fucking up in a game like League or CS:GO and 'feeding'. You will get flamed, kicked, griefed and reported. While in real life sports people will go easy on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:41 PM
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Loser as in ugly/sexually unscuccesful is the only thing that matters in social context though. Ugly with an expensive sportscar/clothes/watch? 'Oh look at that over-compensating loser'. Ugly but well-educated doing a high-skill job? 'What a nerd/workaholic/weirdo' Online games level the playing field for ugly men as they lose this huge innate social disadvantage they were given at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:32 PM
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Dating as an ugly guy isn't a fun experience at all, because losing 95% of the time isn't fun. Scoring that fat, drunk girl once every 20 dates isn't gonna make up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:29 PM
2

When you are playing videogames, the way you look and how athletic you are doesn't matter. It's an equal playing field where ugly guys have the same chance of success as the tall good-looking guys. In sports? Being good-looking, tall, big, athletic has enormous advantages. As an ugly/fat/short/small guy, you are fighting an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:23 PM
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Being better at interacting with people your own age, especially people from the opposite sex, is mostly based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:20 PM
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Ugly people try and get jack shit. Then they give up. It's a normal, human response to injustice and failure to achieve success multiple times in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:17 PM
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he works hard at athletics and maintaining social circles, he just doesn’t perceive it as Work. Contradiction. If he doesn't perceive it as work but as leisury time, then it's not work. Life is fucking easy when it's fun. Too bad that losing and getting made fun of is not fun. If social activities were fun for ugly people, they would be doing it. But usually they aren't. If sports were fun for small/short/fat/clumsy people, they would be doing it. But usually they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 05:14 PM
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MGTOW doesn't exist. It's MSTOW - Men Sent Their Own Way. Most MGTOW's are below average in terms of SMV (Sexual Market Value). They drew the short end of the stick at birth and/or during their formative years, making their best option in the dating game to not play. It doesn't matter that MGTOW becomes large as these men were of low SMV anyways so no woman really cared about them anyways. Now that the western world is the safest it has ever been and women can easily provide for themselves in al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/18 02:45 PM
1

Being neutral/ignoring is baseline with strangers or people you barely know. Being nice is not baseline.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/18 11:35 AM
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Nobody is poor in the Netherlands due to social wellfare constructions for people that make less money. The difference between making gross 20k a year and gross 40k a year is only 4000 euro per year in net spending money. Unless you're making more than 100k a year, ur part of the big grey middle class. And unless you're a drug junkie living under a bridge, you have access to social wellfare bumping you straight into lower middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:34 PM
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This is actually a pretty good tactic. When you're ugly, people don't like you anyways so even though it fucking sucks, you sorta get used to it. Skipping lines, not caring about people making photographs and just walking through it, never giving up your seat, taking as much as you want from any free stuff that is being offered, taking up as much space as you want even though there's a lack of space somewhere, being loud whenever you want to, not holding open doors for people, not getting out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 02:23 AM
2

All you have to do to make money is be born a millionaire, invest it and reap the free passive investment gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:42 PM
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Latest statistics from my country (Netherlands) showed that 70% of the millionaires were born into their wealth. Only 30% of millionaires were not already millionaires the moment they were born. Making a lot of money starts becoming really easy when you have a lot of money to start with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:41 PM
2

Because there's a lot more genes that need be changed than just 'the hypergamy' gene. Humans are not adapted to our modern day civilization at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:55 PM
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Yes. There is an alternative though: Genetically modify our genes so that we are properly adapted to this new environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:30 PM
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Women don't have any choice in the matter anyways since humans are biologically programmed to find certain traits attractive. Having it made clear that having a strong, masculine man is important for their safety, will make human sexuality less confusing. This will lead to more overall happiness. 'True romantics' is an idea based on the false belief that women like kind/caring men more than masculine/dominant men. Masculinity is being shamed while also being rewarded at the same time. No reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:14 PM
1

This world needs to be a less safe place again. Women shouldn't be able to safely walk the streets at night anymore, so that they need a strong masculine man to protect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:35 PM
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And then women wonder why they are being paid less haha. Legit men are just better equiped to deal in harsh, competitive workforce environments than women. Which is why feminism won't make women happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 12:55 PM
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Humans have the technology to alter biology. Most of the progress in this field is being haltered due to a false belief that it is ethically/morally wrong though.
/r/MGTOW07/12/17 12:27 PM
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Dont have a recessed jaw. >Don't have a recessed/balding hairline. >Don't be a manlet. >Have good eye area Aka, be born with good genes for attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:46 AM
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Good satire post on TheRedPill and their bullshit about 'maintaining frame, commanding respect, conveying a sexual vibe' while 'sitting there like a rock'. Good joke
/r/TheRedPill18/11/17 08:54 PM
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What kind of retard believes that intelligence makes someone sexy? Look at your closest STEM university and see all of them are fucking virgins. Intelligence=useless, unless you use it to maximize your looks, money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:04 PM
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Considering how 50% of my physics class are still virgins, I highly doubt it. High intelligence is counter-productive to sexual succes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 09:17 PM
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why do you think people abandon their childhood religion? Why do people who grow up in abusive homes sometimes grow into kind hearted people? Why do some people raised by racists become accepting of others? Because they get into the right circumstances, with the right impulses at the right times to change their beliefs and behavior. A person raised by racists, could act distant/racist/angry towards black people as his 'default' mindset. In response to that, he will be treated distantly/angrily b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:01 PM
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Once you become old enough to think for yourself I disagree with your notion of free will and free thought. You can never 'think for yourself' when your whole value system and thought patterns have been put into you when you were a child. Brainwash a child that all black people are bad and need to be killed, let him loose when he turns 18 and is now 'capable of thinking for himself' and see what happens. All the 18yo's responsibility right? Same with a kid subject to child abuse, never being abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:37 PM
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So you believe that once you are in adulthood, your are suddenly 'reset'? All your learned mannerisms, the things your self-esteem leans on, your belief-system, the things you get joy from, the things that make you anxious, your social conditioning: all that was built on years of social experiences as a child. You think you don't take this with you into adulthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:14 PM
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Better than going through life ugly and dealing with the social rejection and lack of opportunity that come with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:10 PM
2

So you're saying average 20year old men should date women in their own league, aka go for 35 year old divorced women? Oke, clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:09 PM
1

Same for bottom-tier men who aren't on Tinder either, therefore driving up what's considered an 'average man'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:08 PM
2

Yes we were. Read the posts again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:04 PM
2

I just can't imagine people thinking that kids can make all the right choices in life and are as responsible as adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:08 PM
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Are you saying they faked the results in this study then: https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a That this is all some conspiracy? You can argue about how online-dating compares with real-life dating, but you cannot argue against 80/20 in online dating as it is based on evidence.. It's not bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:07 PM
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Yes you're right. What men consider average is considered below average by women. Women rate 80% of men as 'below average' on internet dating platforms. Absolutely brutal standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:30 PM
2

How is looksmatch not a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:39 PM
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Look at any average girl's Tinder or okc profile. Yes pretty girls get even more attention, but average girls get ridiculous amounts of attention aswell compared to the average guy. The average guy has a tinder matchrate of 1/135 according to this which also confirms my personal experience with the app: https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a Most guys will happily date their looks-match o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:28 PM
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Women and men aren't the same in that regard: Men don't chase unattainable fantasies like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:16 PM
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How to be attractive as a girl: -Don't be fat. -Wear makeup. As a girl it is strongly encouraged by society through the media and ads to care about how you look.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:15 PM
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Just imagine how ridiculous it would look if an ugly 5'2 guy tries to act alpha. There is just no way. Being beta is still a mindset though, but low attractiveness leads to social experiences that make you create a beta mindset. Alpha behavior is going to get you laughed at and not make you get what you want. Beta behavior on the other case will get you some minor succes left and right, so you adapt to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:43 AM
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How many good life choices can a 15 year old make? It's not his fault that he became a beta, but mostly his parents. My own parents told me that the only thing that matters in life is my education. Good education=good life, bad education=bad life. No wonder I became a beta. Now that I am 22 yo I have the tools to start changing myself, but it's a really long way to go when you've been brainwashed your entire life and being depressed doesn't help with energy/motivation to change yourself. My beta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 09:36 AM
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Women have infinite dating options and divorce laws on their side. Your husband gets health issues? Divorce him, take the house, take the children, take the car, take alimony payments and marry someone else. As a woman you have infinite dating options anyways so you can definitely get something better than the husband with health issues. Meanwhile more than 50% of the guys in marriage know they have little to no options so they have to comit or be alone. They also know they will lose everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:44 PM
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If you're depressed or have social anxiety as a guy, you're rarely going to get into a relationship. Meanwhile all the girls on anxiety/depression reddits/forums always has a boyfriend. Makes it very clear to me that women want nothing to do with weak men or men that have problems and they will be dumped in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:20 PM
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While you are lifting, a 6'4 guy with good natural physique is chilling in the sun. While you are at your career, a rich guy inherited 10 million and never has to work a stressfull day in his life. While you're paying of your mortgage, that guy is selecting his new vacation home paid by dad. Etc etc etc With your attitude you cannot win in life, since you are never going to be the best. There will always be a shit ton of people better than you. The guy that is jerking off in his basement playing…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/17 11:05 AM
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Divorce rates are over 50% for new couples. Are these the quality women/men wanting marriage? Together in good times, divorce in bad times. That seems to be the motto for the majority of people in marriage nowadays, evident from the divorce rates. Good luck finding that 'unicorn' that stays with you when you go through shit. I know 1 thing for sure: No woman gives a single fuck about you when you're in trouble/depressed and as a man you have to project succes/status to even get a woman. That tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:42 AM
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Casual sex is definitely out of the question if you're a normie (apart from getting lucky once or twice.). So if you want sex, you're gonna either have to pay a prostitute, become a bodybuilder, or get into a long term relationship(with its own pricetag). And yes, it's really that bad nowadays.
/r/MGTOW01/11/17 09:23 PM
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It's not a decision you make, its a height, hairline and facial structure you are born with. Nature made that decision for you, be glad you won the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:54 PM
1

Most deaths are painfull, but nice cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 01:04 AM
1

I hope you die :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:27 AM
1

I hope you get another tumor.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:22 AM
1

Says the person that took 7 years to get their bachelor degree, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:09 AM
1

only weak people like you get cancer at young age
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 12:03 AM
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wtf are you even talking about stupid retard. The conversation was about stopping migration of third world folk to Europe. Is your IQ even tripple digits?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:46 PM
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I didn't steal anyone's resources, dickhead. I bet you also think that german youth is still responsible for world war 2? Fucking retard. I don't owe the third world a single dollar so piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 07:38 PM
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Nobody cares about your stupid tumor either, so why mention it here? 7 years for a bachelor's degree is pathetic and that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 04:55 PM
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RedPill should embrace Incels as their allies. They too are redpilled, blackpilled even. TheRedPill will tell a 5'3 balding, ugly Indian guy that he just needs to start lifting, hold frame, act confident/alpha and he too can be succesfull with women. What do you think happens when even RedPill advice can't get him laid? He becomes an Incel, because we incels know better: It's over for him and it's over for us. We lost the genetic lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:18 PM
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You think other people are never sick or never go to the hospital? They still manage to get their bachelor's degree on time. Stop acting like a special snowflake just because you got a tumor. Everyone gets cancer at some point in their life and everyone has to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 11:37 AM
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Sure, but why would we invest so much in the third world though? What is there to gain rationally? I feel bad for the people currently living in the third world, but if they would stop reproducing, the problem would 'fix itself'. There is no human suffering when there are no humans and it seems like an easier way to fix this problem than to raise their standard of living to our own. I honestly believe we have too many humans on this earth already and we would do just fine if we had say, 1 billio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 02:05 AM
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Germany spent over 100 billion euro on letting people from the third world migrate to Germany and most people see this as a 'good' way to help the third world. (When you disagree you're a nazi). So whenever someone talks about 'helping the third world' I assume they are talking about letting them all come here, since that is where most of european money for that purpose is going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 01:55 AM
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'Helping' third world countries by letting them migrate to rich western countries just makes the problem worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 01:45 AM
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You literally posted about how your life was so tough and how you worked so hard to get out of it. Everyone has problems in their life and works on them, you're not special in the slightest bit. If you took 7 years to finish your bachelor's degree, you just didn't work hard enough. Don't blame it on a tumor or whatever excuse you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:15 AM
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boohoo, life isn't fair. Nobody wants to hear your stupid shitty sad life story here. Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 12:05 AM
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Sure, but it's like you say: Shorter men have to compensate and put in extra effort for their height, something that taller men got for granted. Makes it even less worth it to chase women haha.
/r/MGTOW19/09/17 11:44 AM
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6'1 is average here in the netherlands. If the 6'4'' guy has a narrow frame + goofy face, I would still see him get into fights just as easily as shorter guys. But yeah if you look big+tall, then it becomes less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:47 PM
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You have no idea how often average guys that enjoy night life are threatened by violence. Just accidentally bumping into the wrong guy could get you beat up. I think I'd prefer sexual assault instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/17 08:25 PM
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You keep talking about how not being able to score 9 or 10's as being a failure, not realizing that pretty much 90% of it is based on luck. You even proceed to mention Dan Bilzerian, a guy who has accomplished completely nothing worthy in his life, but inherited a fortune and was lucky in the looks department. You can call it a trait of a loser, but it's not like the loser is able to do anything against this fact. It's bullshit that anyone can become a millionaire, just by working hard. Or anyon…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/17 04:07 PM
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So the Sovjets should've capitulated like pretty much all the Allied European countries did after a few lost battles? The only thing that kept Great Britain going was the fact that there was a sea between them and Nazi Germany. You can say a lot of bad things about the Sovjet-Union, but they were still by far the biggest contributor in bringing down Nazi Germany in WW2.
/r/MGTOW26/05/17 12:22 AM
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NATO was created to counter the military power of the Soviet Union. Hello, it's 2017 and the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore. Russia's military spending is only slightly higher than the UK's. If you put in the rest of Europe in the equation, you have a military budget that is atleast 5 times bigger than that of Russia. Europa doesn't need the USA to defend itself against Russia. Military hasn't been about defence in a long time though so this is all sort of irrelevant.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 12:03 PM
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On the other hand, unlike hollywood, numbers actually matter. You can be the toughest guy on the planet, but once you get into a 1v3 situation, your chances of winning become very slim. You can't keep 3 people coming at you in check and as soon as you get on the floor you are going to get kicked in your face. They will never let you stand up again. Not to mention that as soon as a weapon such as a knife is introduced, size also means very little. The first guy in the video got sucker punched whi…
/r/MGTOW24/01/17 10:42 PM
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Yup. Never see any women in STEM, because 'that's a man's job'. Pathetic
/r/MGTOW22/01/17 01:57 AM
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