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/r/theredpill is crawling with references to women as "females"
/r/ExRedPill17/11/20 04:14 PM
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Absolutely. And bringing it back to the original topic of this post, if a man uses language that suggests he thinks of women as "distant" and "specimens, " it is a pretty good sign he holds deeper misogynistic views. But part of what I'm saying is that even actual clinicians and researchers, for whom women truly are "specimens," (a word a social scientist or doctor would rarely use to describe a person) use more personal and humanizing language than a redpill or incel man, such as my example abo…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:34 PM
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I am not sure what you are asking. I didn't go into clinical terms in my explanation. But even if a healthcare provider says something like "the patient is a 45 year old female," female is a descriptive term modifying the word "patient."
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 03:13 PM
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So here's the thing about referring to women as "females" The word "female" is not specific to humans. Animals can be female. Plants can be female. Even non-living things can be female, like USB recepticles. In that context, the defining characteristic of a female thing is that it is a hole that you stick another thing into. The word for female humans is "women" if they're adults, "girls" if they or not, or "women and girls" if talking about both. "Women" and "girls" are words that do not refer …
/r/ExRedPill13/11/20 02:59 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has put this yet, but calling women "females" is a reliable and easy-to-spot sign.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/20 04:18 AM
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There's a website called http://www.mojoupgrade.com/ that is basically a list of kinks that you and your partner go through without looking at, and answer that you want to try them, you'd be open to trying them, or you would never want to try them. Drunk/drugged sex isn't covered, but role-playing rape is, and if she is open to that one, it could lead to a conversation about inebriated sex. Even if she isn't open to that one, you could still take the test with her and bring it up afterward, like…
/r/seduction18/06/20 07:04 AM
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He messaged me this morning. I instantly blocked him. Don't feed the trolls.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/20 01:14 PM
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It's actually a specific tactic they call "push-pull." Here's a link from the asktrp sidebar: https://www.trp.red/p/vermillionmanmarch/257
/r/ExRedPill07/06/20 05:14 AM
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I don't want to come off as clingy I've got some bad news: you've come across as clingy already and anything you do will just add to that. Learn from your mistakes and move on to another guy.
/r/seduction04/03/19 01:03 AM
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They'll admit it sometimes. Their reasoning usually comes down to "it's safest to assume all snakes are poisonous." While that isn't wrong, strictly speaking, it isn't fucking hard to learn how to tell a poisonous snake from a nonpoisonous snake.
/r/ExRedPill25/02/19 08:59 PM
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Biology is not destiny. Humans also have chemical biological tendencies to go to sleep when it's dark outside and wake up when the sun comes up, but there are still people who work graveyard shifts, and even prefer it that way. The key phrase in your quote is this one: the average mother in a state of savagery You can't predict the behavior of one particular woman based on vague biological cycles that apply in different contexts than the one she's in.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/18 10:39 PM
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Human behavior is extremely complex and has huge amounts of variation. Any statement resembling "all humans of one gender or another will always behave in some certain way" should be met with a huge dose of skepticism. For that same reason, anyone with an agenda can cherry-pick data and find hundreds of examples of people behaving in basically any way imaginable. If you want to know with 100% certainty that your girlfriend will never lose interest in you, you're simply not going to find proof of…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/18 07:06 PM
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people in happy committed relationships do not cheat I wish this were true, but it quite simply is not. People in happy relationships do cheat, and pretending your relationship is infidelity-proof because you're both happy is a fantasy. In general, you will see cheating happen in very young couples who don't want to be tied down... Again, the science doesn't bear this out. A recent study found that cheating peaks at ages 45 and 55 for women and men, respectively I agree that cheating is a proble…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/17 11:02 AM
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So I'm going to be in the minority here, but when researchers survey middle-aged men and women and ask them if they have ever cheated, between 40% and 60% respond that they have cheated at least once. That doesn't mean they have cheated in every relationship, but it certainly implies that cheating is not a rare thing. (It should be noted that in these surveys, MEN are significantly more likely to cheat than women. AMALT?) When you look at human behavior, we simply are not what biologists would c…
/r/ExRedPill15/08/17 09:48 PM
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Closest I'm aware of is /r/racism You could ask at /r/findasubreddit
/r/ExRedPill14/08/17 11:20 PM
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I think you're asking in the wrong subreddit.
/r/seduction14/08/17 09:03 PM
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Finally, he has gotten aggressive, disrespectful, and sexually violent. I'd like to add that the way you described it here, your husband is raping you. You need to get out for your own mental and physical safety. Full stop.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/17 03:58 PM
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I know my friends and family would tell me to divorce him. Many of the women at RPW said I should divorce him. You should divorce him. A man doesn't leave TRP because anyone else tells him to. He leaves because he is mature and balanced enough to see through the cognitive dissonance, circular reasoning, double standards, and toxic culture on his own. He has decided that you, as his wife, are his adversary, with only your best interest at heart. He no longer believes a communal sharing relationsh…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/17 03:27 PM
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I wouldn't offer to buy her something right off the bat like that. Next time you're going on break, tell her you're heading that way and see if she would like to join you. Then walk together, sit together, be flirty. But a work break is not the time be like "can I buy you coffee?" Save that for an after-work Meetup.
/r/seduction10/08/17 09:01 PM
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experienced intimate-partner physical violence in their lifetimes This may be a past partner who may or may not have been a woman. I don't think you can conclude that the perpetrator was a woman from this data. Also to add, the data doesn't show gay male relationships having the lowest, it shows them having the second highest. Neither of /u/theiamsamurai's assertions are backed up by the evidence in your link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 06:28 PM
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lesbian relationships have the highest rates of domestic violence, and gay relationships have the lowest. That's something I had never heard before. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 05:35 PM
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/r/seduction07/08/17 10:48 AM
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I agree that plain speaking is valuable and important. I think it's equally important to recognize innuendo and double entendres from women. Women generally aren't so direct, even when you are.
/r/seduction04/08/17 02:19 PM
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Seduction is all about mixed signals, innuendo, and veiled language. This video helped me understand: https://youtu.be/3-son3EJTrU [11 min] But she's being fairly clear once you read between the lines. said she liked me, then she wasn't into the idea of a relationship Finding an excuse to be physical with me, laughing at dumb jokes, and last night she even changed out of her bikini top into her bra literally right in front of me after swimming This girl is telling the truth that she doesn't want…
/r/seduction02/08/17 09:05 PM
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"Thanks. You're nicer than my dad. He only ever said I was funny looking"
/r/seduction02/08/17 01:58 AM
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What do they say when they end it? And are you on good enough terms with any of them that you could ask them what went wrong? And if you aren't still on good terms with them, what happened to make things go bad?
/r/seduction01/08/17 12:23 AM
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When you say you're nonmonogamous, do you mean you have a long-term partner who you're nonmonogamous with, or do you mean you're single and not looking for anything exclusive? If you're in a nonmonogamous but long-term relationship, then yeah, I think you need to be up-front about your situation. If you're single and looking for something casual, I think you don't have any obligation to state your intentions up-front. Most people who are single rightly expect that things are going to be non-excl…
/r/seduction31/07/17 11:49 PM
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What do they say when they end it? What are your interactions with them like during those 6-12 months?
/r/seduction31/07/17 08:26 PM
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Some do, some don't. Is it a deal breaker if they do? Lots of divorced moms out there have a healthy view of "my kids already have a dad, so I'm not looking for a new one for them."
/r/ExRedPill31/07/17 04:02 PM
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I wish I had watched this video about innuendo and veiled language when I was 16: https://youtu.be/3-son3EJTrU [10:53]
/r/seduction31/07/17 03:45 AM
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Out of curiosity, OP, why did you buy a brand new Porsche 911?
/r/seduction31/07/17 12:41 AM
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Wait for a break in the conversation and proceed with: Come here often? How long have you lived in the area? What's your favorite restaurant around here? Read any good books lately? Or anything else you want to know.
/r/seduction28/07/17 04:45 PM
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You won't end up with her if you disappear, at least in the short term. she still loves me and that she is confused but doesn't want to leave the other guy. To me these are the words of a woman who wants to sleep with you behind her boyfriend's back. And considering that she already has a history of going back and forth between you and this other guy, her goal is probably to end up with you instead of him, but because she's in an emotionally vulnerable spot she wants have things lined up with yo…
/r/seduction27/07/17 11:21 AM
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Youngest are probably easiest to seduce. They tend to be the risk takers and rebels. Oldest are typically more overachievers who follow the rules. I'm not so sure about middle children.
/r/seduction27/07/17 10:58 AM
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Good call, bad call? Depends. What's your goal here?
/r/seduction27/07/17 10:45 AM
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"Just so you know, when I asked you out I meant for it to be a just you and me thing."
/r/seduction24/07/17 11:12 AM
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1:08:46 TL;DW
/r/seduction23/07/17 06:14 PM
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so attractive, you can't take their eyes off them Hyperbole.
/r/seduction22/07/17 06:23 AM
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If you want any chance at a relationship/FWB situation or anything longer than one night, there's going to need to be some trust. I'd say it's best not to start with a lie.
/r/seduction19/07/17 03:17 AM
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If I'm a fairly attractive dude, but also pulled up to the club in a lamborghini, will it help me get laid? It probably wouldn't hurt, but would it add $400,000 worth of help? I'm extremely skeptical. But I drive a Japanese hatchback, so what do I know?
/r/seduction12/07/17 09:53 PM
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Sorry for the slow reply. For part of the time I've been poly, I lived in a rural, conservative area. It was definitely harder to find partners, but it wasn't impossible. There are lots of people out there who have had bad luck with monogamy and are ready to try something different. If you're anywhere near a city like Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc, I guarantee they'll have poly meetups. It was my partner's idea to be poly. She was one of those people who'd had bad luck with monogamy and I was ope…
/r/seduction12/07/17 02:34 AM
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We're slowly opening up to a non monogamous relationship, but first I really want to nail down our sex life So, I'm in a long-term non-monogamous relationship myself, and I've found it very fulfilling and rewarding, and I'm glad to hear the two of you are considering opening up. I'm curious though why you're trying to "nail down your sex life" before opening up. In my experience, and from anecdotes of others I know, opening up a relationship often makes sex between the original couple much bette…
/r/seduction10/07/17 05:58 PM
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You mentioned polyamory. I'm in a relationship where my partner and I have been poly for almost 10 years, and I see it as a good way to have the stability of a committed long-term relationship while still having opportunities for fulfilling connections with new women. It requires a high level of trust, respect, and communication, but when you have those things, jealousy just kind of goes away. There are also other types of ethical non-monogamy out there like swinging, hall passes, etc., which mi…
/r/seduction10/07/17 11:33 AM
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I think that I should leave it to the end of the session and see what happens. Yep, perfect.
/r/seduction09/07/17 03:17 PM
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To make sure I understand, you're the patient and she's the physical therapist?
/r/seduction08/07/17 11:26 PM
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I would do it by putting the ball in his court. Something like "Hey, hope you feel better soon! Let me know when you're back on your feet again if you want to reschedule." And then I'd leave it to him to write back once he feels better. But if he flakes a second time, move on.
/r/seduction08/07/17 06:05 AM
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You say... 1) You aren't interested in traveling right now 2) You need the laptop. I'd take the laptop. You're about to go away for uni. You'll meet women there. And maybe the relative will offer you another trip when you graduate from university. In my experience, after college is a better time to travel than before.
/r/seduction08/07/17 03:47 AM
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I think this could be a step in the right direction.
/r/seduction04/07/17 03:02 AM
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All you can do is dislike and report if they break a rule. I think the implication here is that the rules need to change. Mods, are you listening?
/r/seduction04/07/17 12:53 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls Women favored Clinton 54% to 41% with 5% "other" or choosing not to answer.
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 07:52 PM
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I'm not saying anyone should stop complaining and stop working to change negative gender stereotypes. I'm saying men (and women) have a choice whether they internalize those stereotypes. If a woman was saying "I'm not strong and confident because society tells me not to be," I'd give her the same advice I gave above. But if a woman is fighting against those stereotypes, more power to her.
/r/ExRedPill27/06/17 07:35 PM
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Small towns suck for finding partners. You get pigeonholed into whatever social role you wound up in during school, and even people you've never met think they know you. My number 1 piece of advice is to move away from your small town. Is going away to college an option? How about getting a job either in the big city or a different small town?
/r/seduction25/06/17 12:23 AM
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Can you give an example of an experience you've had, and how you would currently tell it in person that falls flat?
/r/seduction25/06/17 12:16 AM
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It depends on the girl. Some like selfish assholes, but usually they're selfish bitches or have some other issues. Normal women tend to like fun assholes. There are also women out there who like kind/chivalrous guys, but in my experience they tend to be a bit boring. These are all just generalizations based on my experiences, there are exceptions in every category.
/r/seduction24/06/17 07:03 AM
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There are two kinds of assholes: selfish assholes who will literally fuck over anyone to get what they want, and fun assholes, who are playfully selfish but stop short of actually fucking other people over. Playfully selfish is usually the right balance. For example, the girl says "will you please pass the salt?" Guy: "Depends, what's in it for me?" Girl: "I'll be sweet to you the rest of the night." Guy: "I guess that's good enough. But don't expect me to always give in so easily." The guy isn'…
/r/seduction24/06/17 06:43 AM
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Chivalry is when you act honorably towards women without any expectation of the woman doing favors for you back. Being a "nice guy" generally means you do things for a woman with the intention of getting her to like you. Niceness has strings attached, at least when talking about someone being a "nice guy."
/r/seduction24/06/17 06:33 AM
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Do you want to get your face messed up by a jealous boyfriend? Because that's how you get your face messed up by a jealous boyfriend.
/r/seduction23/06/17 02:17 AM
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-Michael Scott
/r/seduction22/06/17 05:20 PM
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Good for you for breaking free of TRP. Look at the stickied posts at the top of /r/exredpill. Go to /r/TheBluePill and read about all the crazy shit that gets said in RP/Incel/MGTOW subs. Find a good counselor to help you work through your anger issues.
/r/seduction22/06/17 04:48 PM
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There's nothing wrong with having sext partners and texting buddies. Maybe there's not much chance they'll turn into sex partners, but that doesn't mean they can't be fun and rewarding for what they are.
/r/seduction22/06/17 03:51 PM
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The “write a post on seddit about shit he doesn’t like to see on seddit” guys Seriously, fuck those guys. 😂
/r/seduction21/06/17 08:54 PM
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I think you may have an opportunity here for her to help you get laid with someone else though. She sees you as a little brother and she has teased you about not being out late with girls on a weekend. If she teases you again like that, say something like "so this may surprise you but I'm still a virgin." After that she'll probably tease you about it a little more (in a big sister way, NOT a sexual way) and, if you're lucky, she'll take on finding someone to have sex with you as her personal que…
/r/seduction21/06/17 12:02 PM
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She picked you to be her flatmate because she thought you would be a good flatmate. Good flatmates don't fuck each other. Stop reading sexual interest into her choosing you as a flatmate.
/r/seduction21/06/17 11:38 AM
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I would just wait until the day she gets back and send "welcome back! How was your trip?" If she doesn't write back, she was never that into you. If she does write back, I'd go with "that sounds great! I'd love to meet up this Friday and hear more about it."
/r/seduction21/06/17 11:35 AM
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She called you "little brother." That's not a mixed message. Girls don't fuck their little brothers.
/r/seduction21/06/17 11:10 AM
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I haven't done it yet lol
/r/seduction20/06/17 07:28 PM
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Not an app, but a piece of advice I've heard is to set your phone lockscreen as an image that always makes you smile a natural, genuine smile, and look at it right before you approach.
/r/seduction20/06/17 06:24 PM
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You messed up bad. Your best bet is to confess everything as remorsefully as possible, and then see what she does. If she's smart she will never talk to your catfishing ass again, but maybe her pics were fake too and you can both look back on this and laugh.
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:46 AM
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Depends. How much hotter than you is the guy whose pics you used?
/r/seduction20/06/17 11:26 AM
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It might be helpful to remind yourself that envy is an irrational emotion. Envy, as I see it, is wanting something that somebody else has. But someone else having something is a pointless reason to experience a negative feeling. Your friends having wives and girlfriends doesn't stop you from getting it. If you want something, want it because of the positive change it will bring about in your life, not because of society's expectation of what you "should" have. And try unpacking the negative feel…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/17 10:46 AM
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I don't know where in SE Asia you are, but in most countries in that region, black people make up a tiny fraction of the population. It's hard to find statistics, but Malaysia for one has an estimated 32,000 people of African descent out of 28 million total inhabitants, so about 0.2% of the population. Let's try a thought experiment. Suppose only 1% of women in Malaysia have a strong preference for black men, and another 2% have a slight preference. That means for every 1 black man in Malaysia t…
/r/seduction18/06/17 10:04 PM
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he always seems to insist I'm either lying or unaware of my own predispositions to things. It doesn't help that I'm gay, so he can easily dismiss my own anecdotal experience as me just not understanding straight relationships, and claims that any desire for my own autonomy and 'power' is due to be wanting to sleep with other women. He doesn't sound like he respects you. That's a problem in any relationship, from friendship to spouse.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/17 01:45 PM
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it seems unrealistic and mean to date someone with an expectation they change something they don't even know you want them to change. Bingo. And even if she wants to lose the extra weight and isn't too sensitive to talk about it, she might lack the discipline, metabolism, genes, etc to get to the point you want her at. I'm not saying don't date her, but if you do, date her for who she is and not who you want her to be. That road leads to resentment and disappointment.
/r/seduction15/06/17 11:38 AM
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Nervous and excited are practically the same emotion. Someone who is nervous and trying to hide it gives essentially the same outward signs as someone who is excited and trying to hide it. Are you sure you're reading them right, or are you projecting your nervousness onto them?
/r/seduction15/06/17 10:52 AM
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It can be an IOI, but with public transportation, women who feel unsafe or uncomfortable and who are traveling alone will sometimes pick out a man they think looks safe, and will stand/sit near him to make it less likely they'll be singled out for harassment. By striking up a conversation and looking for over IOIs, you should be able to tell which it is, but I would avoid coming on too strong right out of the gate.
/r/seduction15/06/17 10:46 AM
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Point taken, reworded.
/r/ExRedPill14/06/17 02:42 PM
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i always see beautiful girls with men who own the best cars I've seen several discussions on this, and what I typically read from guys who own nice cars (which I'm not one of, thank you Ford Focus hatchback) is that while there are women out there who are drawn to nice cars, most of the attention they get is from other men. Everyone notices the "best" cars, and everyone notices a pretty woman in the passenger seat. I think your observation may be a bit of an illusion. It doesn't help that advert…
/r/seduction14/06/17 11:34 AM
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Suppose they're sitting next to each other and she puts her hand on his knee. He can: Reject, Remain Neutral, Accept, or Escalate. Reject means he brushes her hand off him, or he moves farther away. Remain Neutral means he just keeps doing what he was doing. Maybe he gives her a smile, but that's it. Accept means he does something equivalent in return, like put his hand on top of hers or put his hand on her leg, on the same spot. Escalate means he does something even more intimate than what she …
/r/seduction14/06/17 04:03 AM
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For a while Facebook was using app location to suggest friends, but they caught some shit because it was suggesting people who, for example, had gone to the same Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Supposedly they're not doing that anymore. What they are still doing is suggesting people who have visited your profile. So, for example, if this woman knew your name, searched you on FB, and visited your profile, she would show up very high on your "suggested friends" list.
/r/seduction14/06/17 03:27 AM
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You read and post at the blue pill which is a gender flipped version of the red pill. Have you ever even visited /r/TheBluePill? /r/TheBluePill is satire of /r/TheRedPill and its spinoffs. Satire never radicalized anyone.
/r/ExRedPill14/06/17 02:57 AM
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That's what I'm getting at. "He is jealous at the fact that I'm more successful than him" is the symptom of the deeper problems; just the tip of the iceburg.
/r/ExRedPill14/06/17 02:43 AM
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OP has addressed this in the comments.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 08:28 PM
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That may be a problem but it doesn't sound like the root cause. If this marriage is going to survive, y'all are going to need to dig deep to what's behind him feeling inadequate, and any other problems, possibly with the help of a good counselor.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 08:02 PM
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He meant he didn't think you would respond if he had asked directly if you meant you had actually cheated or just been accused.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 07:58 PM
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I think we have to assume she did and she's glossing over it. No, you don't have to assume. You could have asked for clarification. You chose to assume.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 07:30 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NoParticipation/wiki/intro/ If you do click on an NP link (Ed: the MRP was not a np link but should have been) and want to comment, please learn about the community first. Respect that you are an outsider coming into an established community. Many communities offer an introduction, and have rules and guidelines. Read these before attempting to participate. The MRPers coming from that topic aren't following established reddiquette.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 07:26 PM
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Welcome, /r/marriedredpill brigade! https://np.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/6h1kxh/which_one_of_you_is_this_about/
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 06:44 PM
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I read it as he accused her of cheating, not that she's actually cheating. The wording is ambiguous.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 06:31 PM
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Not all long-term relationships are monogamous. Swinging, polyamory, "hall passes," and other forms of ethical non-monogamy can preserve the relationship while still giving you both opportunities to scratch the occasional (or frequent) wild itch.
/r/seduction13/06/17 06:23 PM
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I would take a carrot and stick approach: Stick: Call him out on his bad behavior. Let him know what your expectations are of his conduct and his treatment of you. Let him know what the consequences are of treating you in ways you don't want to be treated, and stick to those consequences. Carrot: Find out what he has been unhappy with in his relationship with you. Chances are he's unhappy about SOMETHING, or else he wouldn't have changed his behavior so drastically. Once you get to the bottom of…
/r/ExRedPill13/06/17 03:29 PM
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I'd say you should just stay escalated to the point you're comfortable with, and if they escalate beyond that point, you don't match, you just stay at the point of escalation you're comfortable with. For example if you are comfortable with flirty banter but she starts to get touchy-feely with you, keep up the flirty banter but don't return her touches.
/r/seduction13/06/17 01:44 PM
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it didn't change my life in any way. How do you know it didn't? sex is not really so different from masturbation, if you done later properly. I agree with this but people who have never​ had sex don't know this and often don't believe you when told it. This can cause them to put sex on a pedestal which makes it harder to get sex. Getting sex out of the way early (like you did) demystifies sex and makes it easier to start approaching. Not saying it's this way 100% of the time, but I experienced i…
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:25 PM
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Virginity is an albatross around your neck. Just do it.
/r/seduction12/06/17 12:22 PM
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It's shitty advice based on the setup to a bad joke from the mediocre movie There's Something About Mary. Somehow the setup to that bad joke started being taken literally. The scene in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p3j294sqM8
/r/seduction11/06/17 06:07 PM
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Most of us reds used to be Blues, so we know all the arguments, all the scenarios, all the situations. We know most of them better than most Blues do. Unless some reds missed the nuances of the arguments, the scenarios, the situations, and rejected something they never really understood to begin with. Most Blues are on their first or second serious relationships, have never been through a major life crisis, have never been through a major relationship crisis, have never had their marriages sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 04:42 PM
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News flash: Some TRPers don't understand nuance AND some TBPers don't understand nuance. More accurately, some TRPers understand nuance in some areas but not others, and some TBPers understand nuance in some areas but not others. Nobody catches all nuances. I could never look at dread game as "fuck her best friend", Negging as "destroy her self esteem, make her feel like shit", etc. Now that we've established that some people miss nuances that other people catch, regardless of whether you look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/17 02:40 PM
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I would say Do you have any evidence for that assertion or is it just a guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 06:34 PM
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Sounds like a circular definition. "It was successful therefore it was red pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:39 PM
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Red pill doesn't have a monopoly on attractiveness and flirtation. It's disingenuous to say it's the only way to happiness. We hear "become more angry" because he (and so many other RPers) sounds pretty angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:29 PM
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If you're not Red Pill... your women will be unhappy and you're endangering your children's lives. Men owe it to themselves... to become Red Pill... You WILL fail if you don't. Have you never seen an example of someone taking a non-redpill approach yet being happy and keeping their spouse happy? Is it completely out of the realm of your accepted range of possibilities that such a thing could happen? If the answer to these questions is "yes," I can only conclude that you are an ideologue and no a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:23 PM
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It's because our society tells men that they are not real men if they can't get laid. There are some messages in our society that say or imply this, and there are other messages that say the opposite. But either way, each person makes the choice whether to believe those societal messages or not. If you watch a movie that implies "you're only a real man if you have sex," you get to choose whether you take that to heart or not. I grew up in a rural area where there were explicit social messages th…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/17 01:46 PM
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got her # after she went home... never texted her. Ideally I'd convert this into a multiple-time thing If you wanted to turn it into a regular thing, you should have texted her. I'd say your best bet for starting things back up is to flirt and see how she responds. If neutral or negative, let it go. If positive, ask her out.
/r/seduction09/06/17 12:03 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I prefer to call them ex-boyfriend inches. As in "my ex-boyfriend said he was 8 inches so you must be like ten!" Can't hold it against girls for taking their ex's word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:45 PM
1

Suppose it was a brand new sleeve. Like she opens it in front of you and everything. Would that change the equation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:49 PM
1

An iPhone 6 is 5.44 inches long
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:45 PM
1

Out of curiosity, do you measure for yourself or do you take the guy's word for it when he says he has an 8" cock?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:21 PM
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A big cock, from the sound of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:20 PM
1

I don't think I understand the benefit of doing this. Seems to me these users' posts should stand on their own merits without needing some kind of "official" status. And who gets to decide who is "valued" and who isn't?
/r/seduction08/06/17 03:20 PM
4

Social and family pressures are one factor in some cases. Financial interdependence is another. Sometimes it's just good, old-fashioned inertia.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/17 06:13 PM
5

Can you please give us some details on the demographics of the people who participated in this survey? The abstract OP linked says: Wecollected data on 180 young singles (mean age 26.9 years) without a steady relationship. Not undergrads, at least primarily.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/17 11:45 AM
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When an EC or mod on TRP posts something objectionable, RPers on PPD are all like "/r/theredpill doesn't represent the real red pill! Read the blogs and websites!" When a blog or website posts something objectionable, RPers on PPD are all like "those blogs and websites don't represent the real red pill! Read the subreddit!" There are no true Scotsmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/17 09:29 PM
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The first time a girl did that it weirded me out a little. I've become more open since then. Best bet is to have a conversation about turnons ahead of time
/r/seduction06/06/17 09:21 PM
1

This.
/r/seduction06/06/17 11:25 AM
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I would love to see links to external sites banned and this to become a text-only subreddit.
/r/seduction06/06/17 10:56 AM
1

He's interested. My advice is to be flirty and fun for now but wait until the class is over before you hook up or anything. You both could get into trouble (him especially) if a physical relationship happens while he's your TA.
/r/seduction06/06/17 12:39 AM
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I didn't say "he's definitely depressed," I just think it's a possibility worth considering.
/r/seduction05/06/17 06:42 PM
2

Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 05:08 PM
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Me: "TRP would shut down if they stopped comparing genders." You: "TRP would still exist because [gender comparison]" I think you just proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:46 PM
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Woman being more x than men is a useless statement, stop comparing genders. Lol PPD would shut down. And TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/17 04:02 PM
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You invite him to your place and he doesn't come over. Could you ask if you can go to his place? Does he have any other symptoms of depression? Suddenly choosing to stay home instead of spending time with friends/loved ones can be a symptom of depression. Are you both students who just started summer break?
/r/seduction05/06/17 01:27 PM
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She's giving you indicators of interest. She's paying attention to how you react.
/r/seduction03/06/17 04:36 PM
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She's feeling you out to see if you match or escalate. Maybe she's just being playful or maybe she's a cheater. If you value the guy's friendship, tread very carefully.
/r/seduction03/06/17 04:17 PM
3

Status can be defined in many ways. How much money do you earn? How attractive are you? How educated are you? How big is your bank account? How confident are you? How tall are you? How healthy are you? Each of these is a continuum where one end is generally associated with low status and one end is associated with high status, and yes, status is generally associated with being successful at things like employment and relationships. The Red Pill is obsessed with the continuum between masculine an…
/r/seduction01/06/17 12:38 PM
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Non-single men do, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/17 12:43 AM
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Studs don't ask reddit to come up with their text messages. You're on your own, stud.
/r/seduction31/05/17 02:15 AM
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The question I have not yet been able to answer in my research is this: If women aren't capable of unconditional love, are biologically predisposed to always search for something better, or constantly manipulate and shit test you, what's the use of trying to have a relationship or hook up with women at all? If you're trying to answer that question, then it means you have already decided: Women aren't capable of unconditional love Women are biologically predisposed to always search for something …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/17 12:08 AM
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OP asked about "screening out" women. I assume that means you'd view screening out as leading to nothing for a very long time? Non-Chad men have 2 options: settle or be incel You have an extremely low bar for what it takes to be a Chad, or else an extremely high bar for what it takes to not be settling. Maybe both. I say that as a non-Chad man who has never settled and has rarely been single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 07:02 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but a guy asserting himself with "I don't like dating girls who have ghosted guys in the past" is either met with the girl getting turned off from the question, or saying "ohhh I would never do that" if her attraction level towards you is high enough Look at the example hyperrreal gave. What you wrote is not what they meant by "asserting yourself." I would probably reword it as "make your expectations known." Make clear what you want, and if she leads you on say "I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/17 06:47 PM
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I had always been taught you don't search your dates on places on omegle and vid sex was basically a myth Omegle is definitely a shitty place to find dates but video sex is basically what that site is for. Whoever told you video sex is a myth was either ignorant or had an agenda. Strangers have been having cybersex and video sex over the internet for decades.
/r/seduction30/05/17 11:25 AM
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The human brain is hard-wired to care for small, cute mammals. This evolved so we wouldn't neglect our own human children, but if there are no human young around, we'll latch on to whatever other small mammals find their way into our homes. I sometimes wonder if Toxoplasma gondii might play a role as well.
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:11 AM
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Unless you count /r/RedPillParenting, which is linked from the sidebar of /r/TheRedPill
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 11:54 PM
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Isn't mgtow in general much different than mgtow on Reddit? No idea. I never see anything about MGTOW anywhere but on Reddit. I've heard similar claims about The Red Pill. Sounds kind of "no true Scotsman" to me. Like is there really another label for guys who think the deck is stacked against them in marriage, so they're just doing their own thing instead? That's a pretty big thing even among people who have never heard of Reddit That's the thing about labels: they tend to come with baggage. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 11:01 PM
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If you have the approach that a few bad apples equates to the entire group/organization being terrible, then clearly you don't like any groups or organizations. I used the assumption that because you don't like MGTOWs based upon your "a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch" approach means that all groups and organizations you don't like. Its simple logic based upon your opinion. Which is why I'm intently against your opinion, you have to single out those bad apples instead of generalizing an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:56 PM
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I didn't say I hate MGTOW so why would you assume I hate cops? If bad behavior among a few cops is tolerated, it makes it easier for any police officer to abuse his or her power. This can (and has) lead to many departments having cultures that tolerate bad conduct up to and including shooting innocent people. Tolerance of a few bad apples has spoiled entire police departments. Yes, all organizations have bad apples. It's just human nature. It's a question of how those bad apples are dealt with. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:28 PM
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Yes, especially one that focused on short stories.
/r/seduction29/05/17 01:21 PM
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A few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch. In the case of MGTOW, it's bushels upon bushels of bad apples. I'd consider it a red flag that someone identified as MGTOW knowing how much hate is spewed in MGTOW's name. If you're so big on going your own way, you can go your own way without the MGTOW label.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 01:16 PM
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Not Daily Beast, Daily Mail. I'd give it more weight if it was Daily Beast. They're the ones who uncovered the New Hampshire representative who founded TRP. Daily Mail is a trash British tabloid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 01:04 PM
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Data is not the plural of anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:12 AM
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2nd paragraph of your link: A new, not-so-scientific survey of 1,000 married women conducted by the Daily Mail found that 50 percent have a “fall-back partner” should their current marriage take a turn for the worse. Emphasis added. Yeah, I'm going to need to see some methodology before I take this seriously. Until then, move along, nothing to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 03:07 AM
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It's important to have a woman who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job. It's important to have a woman who can make you laugh. It's important to have a woman who you can trust and who doesn't lie to you. It's important to have a woman who is good in bed and who likes to be with you. But most important of all is that that these four women don't know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:28 AM
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That sounds like cherry picking. Can't both be indicative of different things?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 02:17 AM
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how do you respond to this study... Links to YouTube video. Link to the study or GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/17 01:45 AM
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A girl sat beside me in math class and when we both got bored we would make up palendromes and pass them back and forth. Things like "racecar" and "a man, a plan, a canal, Panama." But then one day I got cheeky and slipped in a few dirty ones. "Sex at noon taxes" and "a slut nixes sex in Tulsa." It broke the ice for some further escalation and she turned into my first girlfriend. Doesn't have to be palindromes. Look up simple word games and think of ways to start innocent and then turn it dirty.
/r/seduction28/05/17 10:10 PM
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Slip in some suggestive words to let her know what's on your mind. Nothing too explicit. Something with a double meaning.
/r/seduction28/05/17 09:15 PM
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I use a technique that involves slowly fidgeting with my pen. The slowly is extremely important. Fast fidgeting looks nervous, but slow fidgeting looks sensual. As I do this, I look (out of the corner of my eye) for signs that she has noticed my fidgeting, starts fidgeting too, or does anything else flirty. If I notice any of these things, I do something to match it, while also intensifying the slow fidgeting with my pen. You'll be hoping she matches and one-ups. If she does, you match and inten…
/r/seduction28/05/17 09:08 PM
1

Interesting. Thanks for your insight. Do you think you'll get divorced after your son leaves home?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:41 PM
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It also ignores deal breakers someone might have. Someone might tick off all my "must have" boxes, but if they smoke, it's going to be a total non-starter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 02:59 PM
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Your SO is the only person that has ever ticked all these requirements? Huh? I don't think she's implying that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 01:19 PM
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Let's say the mom and dad get an overnight babysitter once a month so they can go to a swingers club. They're not monogamous. How does this get in the way of raising their kids? Let's say the mom and dad both have jobs that sometimes take them out of town on business. When this happens, the couple has an agreement that the traveling parent can pick up sex partners in the hotel bar, and the at-home partner can have a sex partner over after the kids are asleep. How does this get in the way of rais…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:31 PM
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You can't be openly non-monogamous and then support a family with one other person Why can't you? The two seem totally unrelated to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:10 AM
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It didn't matter because after their lovers they would still go home and support their family and spouses. That was you, two comments up saying a man could have a mistress (i.e. not be monogamous) yet still be responsible. Now you're saying it's not possible to be non-monogamous and responsible. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 08:00 AM
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Your flair says you're married. How do you think you approach marriage differently knowing this historical context? Does your spouse view things the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:57 AM
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That wasn't monogamy (or the concept thereof) making them go home and support their families, it was responsibility. You can be monogamous and irresponsible. You can be non-monogamous and responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:52 AM
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Earlier you said "Monogamy is the solution, not the problem." If monogamy was never really there, how does it solve anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:45 AM
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monogamy is dying Did monogamy ever really exist though? Men have always taken mistresses. Women have always taken lovers. In some societies, even civilized ones, this has been considered socially acceptable. In the ones where it is not acceptable, punishable by death even, it happens anyway. The most well known sexually depraved culture was Rome right before it fell. Ahh, the fall of Rome is such a good Rorschach test. Nearly every social ill we have today was also present in Rome, so we can ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:30 AM
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I totally agree that lifelong monogamy is an unrealistic ideal that most people (past, present, and around the world) fail to live up to. By putting monogamy on a pedestal like we do, without any sanctioned alternatives, we doom many relationships to failure. But I think it's a mistake to associate monogamy with nuclear families. Yes, both are the ideal, but you can have each without the other. I lived for a while in a developing country where divorce was much harder to get than in the west, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 07:19 AM
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Do people still believe in soulmates?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:34 AM
2

My mom was a nurse. She took a very no-nonsense approach to talking to me about sex, masturbation, contraception, etc. She also found age-appropriate sex ed videos to show me from time to time. In hindsight she might have left some things out that I would have benefited from knowing (or maybe she did tell me but I forgot), but overall I think she did a good job. My dad never really told me much, maybe because mom was so proactive about it. As an aside, I lived for a brief while in an African cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:38 PM
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Could. But you'll probably scare her off with that. Take a more subtle approach.
/r/seduction26/05/17 06:18 PM
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But you don't know whether your turn will end or not. Wouldn't it make more sense to assume you're just the first "turn" rather than to pedestelize virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:15 PM
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I get that, but just because you're the first doesn't mean you aren't still taking a turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 06:07 PM
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If she isnt a virgin I don't understand this exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:57 PM
1

So is TRP one of those things that works perfectly in theory but when you try to implement it in practice it descends into chaos and dysfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 05:02 PM
0

I wasn't saying it was a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:34 PM
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I'm not saying that it's wrong that they do that. I was reponding to LewisCross' statement that "TRP is not a club where... you have to meet certain "requirements" to be "in" or stay "in"." If there are enough insiders who want to change TRP, they shouldn't have much trouble changing it. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:11 PM
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Who said it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:06 PM
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TRP is not a club where you apply for membership, you pay dues, there are meetings, and you have to meet certain "requirements" to be "in" or stay "in". All groups have formal and/or informal ways of governing themselves. Plenty here have had posts deleted from TRP or downvoted into oblivion, maybe even banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 04:01 PM
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Also, your definition was shit, poorly thought out, and meandering in that direction anyways. I fixed it, you're welcome I didn't give my definition, but thank you as always for elevating the level of discourse here on /r/purplepilldebate 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:45 PM
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That doesn't mean it can't function as a tribe and an identity for others. With 200k members, I'd be surprised if there aren't lots of members who do. It's human nature to view the world in tribal terms, and red pill folks aren't immune to that. I'm not sure what identity politics has to do with any of this, but maybe you're defining that term differently than I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:35 PM
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It's not an ID, it's not a tribe. It's not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:17 PM
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Done 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:02 PM
3

No true red piller would hold the views espoused on /r/theredpill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 03:01 PM
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Does TRP even represent the redpill anymore? This seems to be a common refrain. I've seen Red Pill'ers everywhere from /r/PurplePillDebate to /r/RedPillWives distancing themselves from /r/TheRedPill. But with >200,000 members, it's one of the biggest Red Pill communities in the world, and for many men it's their first exposure to "red pill" ideas. So for those who feel like TRP is giving your beliefs a bad name, what can be done about it? Should it be changed from the top down? Bottom up? Should…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:12 PM
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No true red piller would hold the views espoused on /r/theredpill
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 01:15 PM
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He changed his mind, he isn't interested in proving it anymore: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6d8ebb/scientific_evidence_for_the_red_pill/di1i2ep/
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 09:54 PM
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That's a fine theory, but you're going to need more evidence than "cuckoldry being more likely in the lower classes" if you want to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 06:47 PM
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When you say "proves hypergamy" do you mean "proves hypergamy exists," or "proves all women are hypergamous?" I would say it's evidence that some women may be hypergamous, but proof that all or a majority of women are hypergamous? Far from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 03:45 PM
2

Interesting perspective, but I'm skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 10:31 PM
2

I've never worked in sales, but if they say anyone can do sales and one particular strategy works on all customers (like how TRP says any man can become alpha and it works on all women) then I'd say that part of sales is bullshit, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 09:09 PM
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According to just about every comment section in /r/asktrp and /r/askmrp, if TRP doesn't work it's because the man wasn't trying hard enough or was doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:58 PM
2

The honeymoon is over, friend. She's showing you what life with her is like when the new relationship energy wears off.
/r/seduction24/05/17 08:53 PM
2

You don't trust her and it sounds like you have good reason not to. She lied about the quality of sex with you and there's reason to believe she was using sex to get you into the relationship but now that she has LTR'd you, she has cooled way off. If there's no trust and no sexual satisfaction, what are you trying to salvage?
/r/seduction24/05/17 08:34 PM
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What should I do? Depends. What do you want to happen?
/r/seduction24/05/17 08:19 PM
1

Despiration is an internal state that might lead to any number of outward manifestations. You shouldn't define "despirate men" based on a checklist of behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 08:00 PM
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Call me old fashioned but I say we go back to soldering wires together so male cables can no longer get disconnected, or as I like to call it, disconnect-rape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 07:00 PM
1

Hypergamous sluts...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:30 PM
1

Drop in some innuendo/double entendres and see how they respond. Listen for innuendo/double entendres from them, and other IOIs (indicators of interest).
/r/seduction24/05/17 02:46 PM
4

"Males" can refer to any species of plant or animal that engages in sexual reproduction, and even some inanimate objects (i.e. cable connectors). "Men" only refers to adult male humans. Same for the females/women distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:42 PM
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The ones I've known have generally been charming and delightful people. Haven't been in a relationship with one if that's what you're asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:38 PM
2

They're both Native American tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:35 PM
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In my experience, most people who say "all women over 30 are either broken or have kids" live in rural areas where everyone gets knocked up or married before 20. Cities are full of ambitious single women over 30 with no kids.
/r/seduction24/05/17 10:50 AM
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Aye, flirt with the lad.
/r/seduction24/05/17 10:44 AM
5

Aren't there men who think looking 'alpha' and aggressive is a good thing? Looking "alpha" and aggressive (when you're not) is a good thing as long as nobody challenges you. Kind of like how non-poisonous viceroy butterflies benefit from looking like poisonous monarchs... until the viceroy gets eaten.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 01:58 AM
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#lifegoals
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 03:13 PM
1

Just because lying makes you an asshole mean lying is the only way to be an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:34 PM
2

Their advice is to always expect you're being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:32 PM
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The divorce rate hasn't been near 50% in like 40 years, and even back then the methodology they used to come up with that number was flawed. First marriages are the least likely to end in divorce, and among first marriages the divorce rate is only around 30%. Source Honesty breeds vulnerability and it could screw you over hard if you actually think everyone who you're honest with is honest with you. No, I don't think everyone I'm honest with is honest with me. If you had read what I wrote, you w…
/r/ExRedPill20/05/17 01:25 AM
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This is a good list. One harm I'll add: TRP focuses on how women will betray you but never even touches on how men will betray you. When you bring this up, they say something like "TRP is about sexual strategy, and we don't want to have sex with men." But men are a part of that same sexual marketplace, and to be successful you need to understand the ways they can help you and the ways they can hurt you. You need to understand that, despite what the "endorsed contributor" giving you advice says, …
/r/ExRedPill18/05/17 09:04 PM
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tl;dr: Author had to sit in a circle with guys who, when asked to describe the "flavor" of their orgasms, gave flavors that included chocolate, velvet cake, and sprinkles. Author, in all his alpha-ness, was "terrified" by this experience.
/r/seduction18/05/17 01:36 AM
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"Success belongs to TRP. Failure is personal"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 12:05 AM
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I think TRP's idea of a "beta male" is 75% strawman and 25% projection/solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 10:55 AM
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"No concern trolling" is the official reason given, but that has become code for "no dissent allowed." It's about power and control.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/17 11:20 AM
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When a girl isn't interested anymore in me, I get mad at the though that I see her with a new guy. For example, after a drunken ONS the girl tried to hook up with one of my friends. Still thinking about this makes me angry, and I feel powerless again. The anger you're describing... Is it anger at the girl or at the new guy?
/r/seduction15/05/17 05:53 PM
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At least one couple portrayed wasn't thrilled with how it ended up being spun. I'd be careful generalizing based on that article.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 05:42 PM
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I looked for a recent TIME article on non-monogamy and wasn't able to find anything. Do you mean the article last week in the New York Times?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 05:34 PM
1

Check my reply to says_harsh_things
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 04:42 PM
1

Most people I know in non-monogamous circles are more or less average looking, both men and women. Generally men are more likely to speak of taking more time to find partners, so there's some imbalance but men certainly don't have to be top tier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 04:24 PM
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If more relationships were opened it would only favor the very top men. As a member of a non-monogamous community, I have not found this to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 03:37 PM
1

Possibly. In what way do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 03:18 PM
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I think ethical non-monogamy is an idea whose time has come. In a monogamous model, men lie and cheat, women lie and cheat, dead bedrooms persist, and otherwise good relationships end over minor infidelities. Let's all just accept that humans are not a monogamous species. If we can all just maturely and openly discuss preferences and agree on boundaries, I think relationships on the whole will improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 02:15 PM
2

"I didn't know you had guy friends more appealing than me"
/r/seduction14/05/17 08:23 PM
4

Did we stop requiring parent comments to be trying to change OP's view? Because all of the top posts here are basically "yes, I agree with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 02:31 PM
1

How does she respond when you escalate?
/r/seduction14/05/17 02:16 PM
2

Are you escalating?
/r/seduction14/05/17 01:35 PM
1

Was trying to be helpful but if you're ok with embarrassing yourself I think we're both cool 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:05 AM
1

It is messaging. Something on which feminists have been cleaning our clock for decades. You better keep working on that messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:55 PM
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There was already a term for what /u/despisedlove2 is calling "recreational divorce" - they're called "no fault divorces." But I guess a butt-hurt MRA decided that term didn't make women look bad enough so they came up with a superfluous new term.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 11:07 AM
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So it's a made up term, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:37 AM
3

recreational divorces Ok I'll bite. What makes a divorce "recreational?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:52 PM
2

My parents have been together over 40 years. They both divorced once before meeting each other. I'm anti-red but I don't consider myself blue or purple either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:55 PM
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The entire point of this thread was that if he holds RP beliefs he should own up to them. "I will continue to stand strong for men's rights and the rights of all" does not tell me if he holds RP beliefs. At best it's a political dogwhistle because he's calling out the rights of men before all others. Look at your own Joe Biden example. Joe says he's personally against abortion but will vote to keep it legal. That's the kind of unambiguous statement I would need to see from Fisher to view him as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 11:38 AM
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That quote is not a statement of what he believes. It's a statement of what he plans to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:55 AM
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Fisher did not deny having created The Red Pill, he called his past comments “injudicious,” and suggested he no longer holds the views he once espoused online. Fisher told a local media outlet that he is not currently the moderator of any Reddit forums. Yet further investigation by The Daily Beast suggests that Fisher may still be very much be an active contributor and chief moderator of The Red Pill, where an alias that appears to belong to him—under the username redpillschool—regularly champio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 10:35 AM
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Joe Biden doesn't try to hide what his personal beliefs are. If Fisher said "I believe in Red Pill ideals, but I will serve as a legislator who supports the rights of men and women equally," then I would applaud his candid honesty. But that isn't what he's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:32 AM
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Fisher should own TRP and begin proselytizing RP ideas. It's unclear to me if he still believes RP ideas. Some of his public statements have clearly tried to put distance between himself and TRP, while others have been equivocal. Meanwhile there's mounting evidence that he still moderates TRP under the redpillschool username. If he does still hold RP beliefs yet fails to own up to them, he's a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:44 AM
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Insert some vague innuendo or a double entendre and see how she reacts. If she reacts positively, gradually escalate. Then ask.
/r/seduction09/05/17 01:48 PM
1

Redpill is a strategy used by men to make other men so horribly repulsive to women that the original man has less fierce competition. If that were true, the advice wouldn't be "don't talk about TRP," it would be "tell your friends, and especially tell your girlfriend/wife. Only cheating sluts will leave you when they find out what all alpha you are. Good riddance."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 01:40 PM
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Drop some innuendo and see how they react
/r/seduction09/05/17 11:49 AM
4

This. I wouldn't want a woman who ALWAYS supports me, just like I wouldn't want a woman who ALWAYS challenges me. Give me a woman who can tell when I've got a good idea and support me for that, but who can also tell when I'm being a bonehead and call me out on it, and who comes up with her own ideas that I can support or challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 01:22 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/69d8ez/cant_seem_to_think_women_are_equal/dh5w4rd/
/r/ExRedPill06/05/17 11:36 AM
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Wasn't meant as an insult. I wish you luck on your journey.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 11:28 PM
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Looks bad when you lack the self-awareness to see something that's as plain as the nose on your face.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 10:57 PM
21

I'm going to let you reflect on that question.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 10:42 PM
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Shit, dude, after reading your original post and comments, if I was a woman who made the mistake of dating someone with your views, I'd look for the nearest branch to swing away on too.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 10:36 PM
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In the old days, when you married someone, the cultural norms against divorce largely did that for you, and instead you got the risk of being trapped in a shitty relationship. I think you're romanticising the past. Divorce was not an option (or was extremely difficult to obtain). But you're saying that it is easier to get trapped in a shitty relationship now that divorce is easy? Trapped means you can't get out. Divorce means you have a way out. Do you think relationships weren't shitty 100 year…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:50 PM
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almost every couple I see on the street are either hot or ugly. I rarely see plain couples. Beauty is eye-catching. So is ugliness. Average is unremarkable so we tend not to even notice it. Also, you may be defining "average" too narrowly. If you define ugly as 1-4, average as 5, and beautiful as 6-10, you're going to mostly see ugly and beautiful people because the range is so narrow for average. Average should be defined as a range that captures around 60% of the population, so maybe 3s-7s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 04:31 PM
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I agree with your post, but the average age of intercourse among women in the study you linked can't be generalized to the rest of society. Participants were 292 women (66% African American, mean age = 26 years) attending a public sexually transmitted disease (STD) clinic who reported having voluntary vaginal sex before age 18. If a woman didn't have sex until 18 or older they were excluded from the study. If a woman didn't show up to that particular STD clinic, they couldn't have been in the st…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 01:37 PM
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I'm in the government sector, not academia, so I'm not that familiar with the academic funding climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 01:23 PM
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I think The Red Pill encourages a false choice: They say "Society tells us men and women are equal, but obviously they aren't for the following reasons, therefore men are superior." My opinion is that the truth is in the middle. Yes, there are some actual differences between men and women but that doesn't make one gender better than the other. Men and women are different and that's okay. Yes, there are shitty women out there. There are shitty men too. Instead of holding the shitty actions of tho…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/17 12:41 PM
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So then what did you mean by Everything that's been confirmed by science was once unconfirmed by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 01:03 AM
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From the link: Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not The "things" are all possible concepts. The "selection process" is scientific confirmation, and "those that did not" are concepts that have never and/or will never be confirmed by science, mostly because they are untrue concepts (though some are true concepts yet to be confirmed). Saying "Everything that's been…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:12 PM
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Nice survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:57 PM
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The "Nat Geo" channel is actively squandering the scientific legitimacy of the National Geographic brand. But then, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp is the majority owner of the Nat Geo channel. https://www.adn.com/commentary/article/what-happened-national-geographic-0/2011/12/30/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:18 PM
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Possibly? Sure. But probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:03 PM
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I was using them as adjectives. Thanks for the link, I'll take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 08:19 PM
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They are hard to demonstrate with actual scientific data because there is no way to control for variables. Two men performing the same action could have two vastly different out comes, none of which probably have anything to do with alpha or beta. With a big enough sample size, a robust methodology, and a longitudinal design, if the effects are real they will show up. even just the few of us here on this sub cannot decide on a definition You wouldn't have to come up with a universally agreed upo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 07:00 PM
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Alpha/beta attitudes could easily be captured on a survey instrument. If it was a longitudinal study you could track self-reported outcomes, such as divorce, number of sexual partners, life satisfaction, confidence, and all those other outcomes TRP claims to affect. My guess is existing longitudinal studies probably already have pretty good attitude and outcome data that could start to show an association or lack thereof. My point is TRP makes a lot of strong predictive claims, and if it's half …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 06:34 PM
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Alpha/beta is not a science, you won't find models for it because it's not predictive, only descriptive. The Red​ Pill makes LOTS of predictions of what will happen if you are alpha vs. if you are beta. Surely some of these are testable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 06:12 PM
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Is it not possible to swallow the red pill but still be a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:36 PM
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Not if I sleep with a nightlight and a teddy bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:18 PM
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Flirting at work can be a lot of fun and can sometimes lead to more. The trick is to be as subtle as possible, especially with someone like a manager who could get in a lot of trouble if things get obvious. Can you give me some idea of what your workplace is like? What kind of day-to-day interactions will you have with this manager?
/r/seduction04/05/17 11:57 AM
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Do you really think RPers are completely aware of all social deceptions? That sounds pretty naive. If you're interested I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you. Don't RPers "game the system?" I've seen countless RPers describe themselves as "spineless betas" (or equivalent) in /r/asktrp so clearly being spineless doesn't stop you from being RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:46 AM
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/r/okcupid has a lot of profile resources in their sidebar, and the users there will do a critique if you post a link to yours. You can also search that sub for critiques to see what others have posted.
/r/seduction04/05/17 11:31 AM
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Chad is the adult male version of the boogeyman. Mom to son at 5 years old: "You better clean up this mess or the boogeyman will get you!" EC to TRP at 18 years old: "You better lift and read the sidebar or Chad will fuck your girlfriend!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:27 AM
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It's insane. It has a huge impact on people's lives but there's almost zero awareness that it even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 09:00 PM
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This is one factor I haven't seen mentioned here but which I believe plays a role in making attractive women insecure. While "natural beauty" is definitely a real thing, most women who would be considered "beautiful" rely on cosmetics, accessories, hair/nail salons, perfume, fashion, etc, at least to some degree. For the sake of simplicity, I'll refer to those products and services as "beauty products." Beauty product sales rely heavily on advertising. Many beauty product advertising camaigns re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 05:00 PM
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I've had women pay to take me on expensive trips, if that counts. I don't consider myself an alpha or a Chad, but I've been told I tend to date women who are less attractive than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:43 PM
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Haha I love when I get that kind of subtle attention from a woman. I used to think I was imagining it but since then I've learned just how surreptitious it can be. Flirting is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 12:39 PM
1

The first two blocks of text you quoted look like something a man would write.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:51 AM
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Sorry if this is a dense question, but when you say you "checked him out," what does that entail? My interpretation is you're saying his hands and forearms caught your attention so then you looked at the rest of him. Does that​ sum it up or was there more to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 10:45 AM
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I would have to be in a relationship with them to make that judgement. You can't tell with friends unless it's really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 09:12 PM
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It has surprised me to see how patient women can be while trying to have civil discussions with men who espouse some pretty misogynistic views.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 02:02 PM
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NAMALT!!! JK. We're all pretty ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:43 AM
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femaloids Hahahaha, wait, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:35 AM
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I've always assumed it came from the phrase "frame of reference," and that "holding frame" means sticking to your own frame of reference (attending to your own needs and best interest, to the exclusion of others' needs and best interest). Holding frame means prioritizing an "I win, you lose" mindset, often at the expense of win-win arrangements or effective compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 11:05 AM
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It helps them establish who has been indoctrinated vs. who is an outsider. It also obscures their true meaning to anyone who hasn't read through their core materials.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/17 10:53 AM
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It's a red pill term that basically means "rationalization."
/r/ExRedPill01/05/17 03:22 PM
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The dating world is full of hidden meanings and innuendos. In general women are better at coming up with these and also at deciphering them, but anyone can improve. This video has been helpful for me as I've been figured it out. It's only 10 minutes and it takes a scientific approach rather than a "pickup approach." https://youtu.be/3-son3EJTrU Now that you've watched that, here's my take: it sounds like her main objective is to keep things the way they are with you: an occasional hookup but not…
/r/seduction01/05/17 11:16 AM
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"[women are] not alpha or beta by genetics as only men are" Unless the hypothetical "alpha gene" exists only on the Y chromosome (which is plausible but unlikely), then women absolutely can be genetically alpha or beta, even if it doesn't result in outward alpha or beta behaviors. How would you describe the behavior of the "Alpha bucks" and "Beta Fucks"? Do you think the "alpha gene" is dominant, recessive, or co-dominant?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/17 06:06 PM
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Moot. Point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/17 01:02 PM
3

"I like this trait, therefore it's best for everyone!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/17 06:14 PM
1

Yes
/r/seduction28/04/17 12:16 AM
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I'm not usually smug about being poly, but this article has me like "oh, you silly monos..."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 09:06 PM
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Replying here since I couldn't reply to the deleted comment: She's in a bad place right now, I couldn't do this to her. This is information you didn't include in your original post. If she is going through a temporary rough spot and needs your care and support until she gets through it, then by all means, be there and give her your care and support. I have to say... if she is going through a temporary rough spot and needs your care and support and your response is "she's not giving me enough att…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/17 04:13 PM
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Let me make sure I understand... You're in a relationship but you've "been kind of dissatisfied with how it's going." She doesn't give you enough attention, except when you ignore her. This is your first relationship. Know what it sounds like to me? Y'all aren't right for each other. Break up, try again with someone else. Your first relationship isn't supposed to also be your last. Read up on the secretary problem. Date around before you conclude "all women are like that" based on an N of 1.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/17 02:49 PM
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my reaction, as a polyamorous man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:08 AM
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Not everyone finds videogames relaxing. Personally they raise my anxiety level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:35 PM
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All I can say about this is it improved my relationship with my wife when we decided we had enough extra money to hire a cleaning service once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:32 PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to classify those as destructive and unevolved. Poop eating (coprophagia) is common in a wide range of mammals from dogs to rabbits. Its exact benefits aren't fully understood but it's speculated that it may have immune benefits or may facilitate the absorbtion of difficult-to-digest nutrients. It's true that many diseases follow a fecal-oral route, but once you are sharing a household it's easy to catch those from casual contact combined with the poor hand hygeine as was …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 01:43 AM
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Is it possible to dox someone who is already a public figure? When I think about doxing, it involves tracking down a private individual's real identity and making their identity known to people who only knew them by an anonymous handle. In this case, you're taking a public figure and showing that they made objectionable comments under an anonymous handle. Clearly they're related concepts, but I feel like the reverse directionality is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 11:00 PM
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9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 10:38 PM
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Gotcha. I've had relationships and hookups with people who I started off just DM'ing with. For me the key has always been to not start off flirty, but just have a normal conversation with them. Then if you hit it off, drop in some innuendo and see where they go with it. It's not too different than text game or messaging someone on a dating site.
/r/seduction25/04/17 09:18 PM
1

Maybe I'm out of the loop or living under a rock, but what does "sliding into someone's DMs" mean?
/r/seduction25/04/17 09:11 PM
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I see. Yes, that all makes sense to me. I think I just wasn't explaining myself as clearly as I could have, but I think we're on the same page.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:50 PM
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It takes a lot of communication, respect, and trust. Self-awareness is also helpful, and setting good boundaries. Time management skills and setting realistic expectations are important for preventing hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:48 PM
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I don't think you can separate "fear of loss" from jealousy. Fear of loss is a component of jealousy, though it isn't the only component (the other being envy). I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. Just giving another point of view from a community that has a different take on what it means when a partner is attractive to or attracted by other potential partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 02:30 PM
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15 years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/17 01:20 PM
2

People put a lot of value in symbols, especially traditional ones with thousands of years of history behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/17 02:08 PM
2

Does he ask your permission for similar things?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 10:39 PM
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This. What many people don't understand is that marriage is not a thing unto itself. Marriage a symbol of a thing. The thing that marriage symbolizes is a high quality, enduring, monogamous relationship between two people. Marriage doesn't convey high quality, enduringness, or monogamy to a relationship. It is up to the people in a relationship to agree that their relationship is high quality, enduring, and monogamous enough to warrant a marriage ceremony and to try for the lifelong commitment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 08:35 PM
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Schools and doctors offices are very well prepared to deal with children whose parents never were, or are no longer married. I'm married and have a child, but my wife kept her maiden name so she doesn't have the same last name as our child. No doctor's office or school has ever asked to see a marriage license to prove we're married. They simply don't care. The tax benefits of marriage are well known and well established, so I won't argue with that. But one parent will still get child tax credits…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 06:26 PM
2

How do kids make marriage necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/17 04:23 PM
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women are heavily advantaged compared to men when it comes to sociability and relationships, but they don't really aknowledge it or even worse pretend they are at a disadvantage. How is anger a rational response to this perception? Maybe women outperform men socially and in relationships because men chase people away by getting angry when they think life isn't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/17 11:00 PM
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I want to test the waters and see how they feel about me. Maybe get to know them Start up a conversation and ask them questions. and get a little physical without being blatantly obvious In a setting like a classroom, touches should be brief and subtle. A gentle tap or brush against the arm is unmistakable to her but nearly unnoticeable to everyone else.
/r/seduction22/04/17 02:08 AM
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You could hedge a bit. Like "It ​would be fun to those girls, but what I had in mind for tonight was just you and me."
/r/seduction21/04/17 11:59 PM
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Until about 15 years ago, the workplace was the number 1 place people met their spouses. Now dating sites and apps are #1, but work is still #2. There are risks and advantages to any place you might meet romantic partners. The workplace is no different. If you think you can manage those risks, go for it.
/r/seduction21/04/17 05:38 PM
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When this has happened to me, I've responded with "I was more thinking this would just be a you and me thing."
/r/seduction21/04/17 03:37 PM
1

Not red pill but I'll sometimes use phrases like this as a self-deprecating joke. Like I'll order a cosmopolitan at a bar and say something like "I had to turn in my man card before they would let me order this drink, but it was worth it."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:53 PM
2

Scientist.
/r/seduction21/04/17 12:24 PM
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Some catfish avoid talk of meeting up, others dangle it to keep the guy on the hook. Tinder is a hook-up app, so a catfish on there is going to need to talk about meeting up if they want to get anyone's attention. Anyway, best case scenario is she's legit but totally flaky. Ain't nobody got time for that.
/r/seduction18/04/17 08:49 PM
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Watch this 10 minute video about innuendo and veiled language: https://youtu.be/3-son3EJTrU
/r/seduction18/04/17 06:42 PM
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Girl flakes Girl flakes again Girl starts sending videos and pics I see two likely possibilities here: she's either just after attention and not interested in ever meeting up, or... it's a dude. Anyone who flakes twice is just stringing you along.
/r/seduction18/04/17 05:11 PM
1

$500,000/year is what it would take to live that​ way full time. You could occasionally pass for a playboy on a lot less than that. A $70,000 car, $10,000 wardrobe, and a $1,500 night out once a month would only cost $100,000 and the car would last several years before it was so old it didn't pass for a status symbol anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 03:59 PM
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Occupational Prestige is a factor too. I'm in a job where the pay is low relative to the prestige, and women definitely regard my job title as a positive. And for what it's worth, it's a job with a strong ethical code where lying, manipulation, cheating, etc will land you in a lot of hot water.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:25 PM
1

So all The Red Pill is is validation for people who already felt that way? It doesn't change anyone, just reinforces existing beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 12:15 PM
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I've had the most luck with other guests: at the pool or just wandering around after dark.
/r/seduction18/04/17 10:48 AM
1

People's thoughts and behaviors aren't influenced by their surroundings at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 10:41 AM
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That's what I suspected, and it sounds like you're using it as a useful, fun, and low-risk way to get some practice. Keep up the good work.
/r/seduction14/04/17 01:22 PM
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Workplace flirting is always much more subtle than flirting in places like bars and college campuses. In a workplace, everyone needs complete plausible deniability to avoid allegations of inappropriate workplace behavior that can either cost you your job or turn your workday into a much less pleasant experience. The key then is to master the art of subtle workplace flirting. It sounds like you're halfway there because you already flirt with everyone. The next step is to be more observant of how …
/r/seduction14/04/17 10:56 AM
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I think you're probably on to something, but I doubt it's universal. There are probably men out there who are so devoid of empathy that even having a house full of daughters wouldn't be enough to bring them out of the red pill mindset. An easy way to look for counterexamples would be to search the various Red Pill reddits for use of the word "daughter" and see what comes up. I would do it but I'm on mobile so searching is cumbersome.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/17 10:43 AM
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Generous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:07 PM
2

I think I could. I agree with many of the other side's premises, but I disagree with their conclusions, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 07:07 PM
2

Trp ideas focus on the differences It seems to me that the behaviors TRP focuses on are behaviors exhibited by men and women alike. They just focus on instances where women are the bad actors. TRP would get a lot less shit for being sexist if their mantra was "All People Are Like That," and it wouldn't be any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 03:00 AM
2

Don't worry. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 10:36 PM
5

Then I'd punch myself in the face, obviously.
/r/seduction10/04/17 12:52 PM
1

Which Tyler Durden? Edward Norton or Brad Pitt?
/r/seduction10/04/17 10:47 AM
3

Something like 25% of mellinnial couples have some kind of non-monogamous arrangement in place, from a one-time hall pass to all-out polyamory. Talk to her and see if something like this applies. But if it doesn't, back off.
/r/seduction06/04/17 02:43 PM
3

Sometimes it goes outside the normal range.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 11:30 PM
5

Every now and then TRP will phrase it as "your wife/girlfriend will never love you like your mother did," which doesn't help their case for not having mommy issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/17 05:54 PM
2

Don't forget about STDs like syphilis that were incurable before antibiotics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:07 AM
3

before women started working higher paying jobs, the average man knew he could get a high paying job and get a wife and family based on that alone. This was only true for a brief period from approximately​ the end of WWII to the 1970s. Before that there was no feminism and no guarantee of high wages for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/17 12:05 AM
3

What societal effects do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/17 11:10 PM
1

Ok. In English we call those "braces," always in the plural.
/r/seduction03/04/17 01:26 PM
1

What kind of brace? Like a leg brace?
/r/seduction03/04/17 12:44 PM
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If two people behave and think in the same way but one identifes himself as an incel while the other does not, what's the difference? Not much. Calling yourself an incel is just a label. Maybe that label makes it harder to ever change your thoughts and behavior, so removing the label is certainly a good step. But if you want your life to change, you MUST change your thoughts and behavior too. Me calling myself a gymnast won't help me do a backflip. Doing a backflip takes discipline and practice.…
/r/ExRedPill03/04/17 02:59 AM
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I've heard this described as "throwing your hat over the fence." Want to make it to the other side of a fence, but can't see any way over, through, or around? Throw your hat over the fence. Then you'll make it to the other side.
/r/seduction01/04/17 01:47 PM
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I've got lots of friends who I'd never want to be in a relationship with. I've got friends who I tried being in a relationship with and we went back to friends because the romantic relationship wasn't working. And yes, I, the man, was the one who ended the romantic relationship. "I'm glad she's someone else's problem" is a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/17 11:26 PM
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She's definitely not repulsed if she keeps up the conversation, but she could just be enjoying the conversation or being polite. To tell the difference, look for IOIs or make subtle attempts to escalate and see how she reacts.
/r/seduction31/03/17 02:22 PM
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I generally think looks are overrated. Clicking with someone on an interpersonal level is very attractive to me. If that's what floats your boat, go for it.
/r/seduction31/03/17 02:14 PM
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Is she teasing or is this some genuine fault she has with you? If teasing, tease back or play along, self-deprecatingly. If she's nagging, I personally wouldn't put up with much of that.
/r/seduction30/03/17 08:37 PM
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The problem I'm describing is how long a guy is willing to run with a girl's issues or "reasons" why 2+2 doesn't actually equal 4. Sometimes there are valid reasons, but for the most part it's some other-worldly problem that always seems to be the major barrier that halts you from advancing where you want to go. Could you give an example?
/r/seduction30/03/17 06:07 PM
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We're equally related to chimps and bonobos: Humans split off from the ancestor of both chimps and bonobos, then chimps and bonobos split off from each other after that. As an analogy, if Bill is my first cousin and Susan is his sister, I'm equally related to Bill and Susan.
/r/seduction28/03/17 09:28 PM
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287 upvotes. Maybe I should start writing TRP fanfiction too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 02:51 PM
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That's easy for you to say. You have a bigger D than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 12:41 PM
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What we call "jealousy" encompasses two separate emotions. One is envy, which is the feeling of wanting something someone else has. The other is insecurity which is fear of losing something you already have. Envy is a childish emotion. The things that make other people happy should not make you upset. If you are not happy with what you have, got out there and get the things that make you happy. Insecurity is a counterproductive emotion. If someone wants to leave you for someone else, nothing you…
/r/seduction28/03/17 12:11 PM
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Is the male fixation on penis size based on presumptions about female preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/17 11:50 AM
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you can think you're human if you want, but the results speak for themselves :) I'm a man. But nice try. Must be that special spark you've got in your mind :) I daresay if all men were equivalent to women, we'd probably all still be in the stone age. This conversation with you has shown me that some of us may still be in the stone age :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 02:25 PM
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I don't think OP was asking if one should assume others are lying, I think they were asking if you should lie whenever it benefit you and you can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:34 PM
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So if everyone below that line is "subhuman" is everyone above that line "superhuman?" I've got a radical idea. They're "human" on both sides of the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 01:25 PM
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The lack of trust is a relationship red flag. I didn't assign it to you or to her, but to the relationship. Though if you don't trust anyone, I'd say there's an implication that any relationship you find yourself in will have that same flag.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/17 01:19 PM
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one could almost describe them as physically subhuman from a strength point of view. One can only define women's​ level of strength as "subhuman" if they define "human" as "men only" Women are human, therefore describing them as "subhuman" is pretty hard to justify.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:49 PM
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And being trustworthy attracts other trustworthy people, while being a liar attracts other liars. If the people around you are constantly trying to cheat and deceive you, you're not going to have as much social capital as if the people around you are trustworthy and you have earned their trust. That translates to more life satisfaction, more economic opportunity, more help in times of crisis, etc. You reap what you sow. That's the benefit of honesty. No morality required.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/17 12:35 PM
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Then until you get that under control you're going to have this problem with any LTR
/r/ExRedPill27/03/17 12:29 PM
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You sound like you don't trust her. To me that is a relationship red flag, but it's impossible to know from where I'm sitting if you don't trust her because she has given you reason not to trust her or because of an unfounded insecurity on your end. Edit: or both Trust is the foundation of any quality LTR. Be trustworthy, don't stay with anyone you don't find trustworthy, and if you have trust issues that keep you from trusting others (e.g. red pill tendencies) work on those.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/17 07:46 AM
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You're right that Hollywood is wish fulfillment, but it isn't often stated as such very explicitly, nor is it usually specified what parts of movies and TV are fantasy and what parts are realistic. When a show as ridiculous as "The Bachelor(ette)" qualifies as "reality TV," you can't fault young men or women for experiencing confusion over how "real" TV and movies should be seen as. So, most people experience a moment where they "get it" and realize life isn't like the movies. For most people I …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 12:04 PM
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What am I supposed to be refuting? Saying something can be argued doesn't obligate me to get into an argument about it, which I prefer not to honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 02:14 AM
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It takes very different levels of argumentativeness to argue the validity of TRP assertions vs. arguing the validity of gravity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 03:47 PM
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I said they were arguable, and here we are, starting to argue about them. I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 02:07 PM
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Hypergamy, AWALT, and 80/20 come to mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 01:30 PM
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One can also argue that the premises accepted by TRP are incorrect, or that its generalizations are too broad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 12:58 PM
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Your name implies you're just trying to get a reaction out of the seduction subreddit
/r/seduction21/03/17 12:11 AM
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why would I disclose this? You disclose it because you want the angry messages and showing up at your house to stop. None of their business Something about the way those dates are going is making these women feel like it is their business.
/r/seduction20/03/17 04:23 PM
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My GF knows I do this -so I am not being a sleazeball. That's great that you're not going behind your girlfriend's back with all this, but it sounds like these women are feeling mislead. What should I avoid telling women to prevent this from happening? The problem, in my opinion, is not that you're telling them too much. It's that you're not telling them enough. Either start telling them your relationship status up front, or get used to angry women contacting you pissed off about leaving that in…
/r/seduction20/03/17 04:03 PM
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This is a person who has a lot of power over you, for the next few months anyway. But even after that, you're putting at stake things like your ability to go to her for a reference. It has already gone too far. My advice: practice some restraint for the next few months. You don't want to be in the habit of hooking up with superiors, so best to break that habit now.
/r/seduction19/03/17 11:57 PM
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And we have to self police, the mods can't, won't, and even shouldn't do it for us. I agree that the current mods don't do this, but I believe the community would be stronger if they enforced the existing rules and strengthened them to require actual debate and discussion. As for self-policing, that's also something that doesn't currently happen, and so it's not realistic to believe it will start happening without some kind of intervention from the mods, or a group of users organizing to bring a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:14 PM
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Saying all are like X is wrong, of course. Then you should take this message back to TRP. The "All ____ are like ____" view is pervasive there, though you wouldn't know it from apologists in PPD who, without fail, scramble to assure us that they don't really mean what they say when they say it. /r/theredpill: "AWALT AWALT AWALT, no exceptions." /r/PurplePillDebate: "Clearly AWALT is just talking about broad tendencies."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 01:06 PM
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Human behavior is complex, influenced by countless factors. Our behaviors, preferences, physical traits, etc. show an amazing amount of diversity and variety. Yet TRP takes an "All _____ are like _____" view of human behavior and preferences. Rather than take a scientific approach of making observations and crafting a theory to explain those observations, supporting observations are cherry-picked while contradictory observations ignored or dismissed. It's a top-down view of the world rather than…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/17 04:23 AM
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I'm kinda popular at my college This may be a factor. If you're popular, there's a pretty good chance the people you hang out with are popular too. Some people are just naturally popular, while others have to put a lot of time and effort into achieving and maintaining popularity, which doesn't leave a lot of time for intellectual pursuits. I was not popular in high school or college. I had a few friends who were among the popular kids, but for the most part I was in with the "smart kids," and I …
/r/ExRedPill18/03/17 02:52 AM
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A few thoughts... Fortunately your opinion stops short of what I usually see on TRP, which is that all women are childlike and shallow, and that the ones who don't seem that way are only that way because a man (father, ex-boyfriend, etc) taught them to appreciate interesting things. So things could be worse. My question for you is: How well do you know the young women you're basing your opinion on, and where are you meeting them? It's easy to conclude that people are shallow and superficial if y…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/17 11:32 PM
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The two are more alike than you are acknowledging. Marital infidelity is illegal where I live (a US state). It's rarely enforced here, but in some parts of the world it is punishable by death. Marital infidelity clearly violates a sacred religious bond and civil agreement, and is expressly forbidden in most religious texts. Besides, racism and sexism don't have to be identical to be compared to each other. You're trying really hard to defend TRP core beliefs as not being misogynist, but it's com…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 02:20 PM
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Cheating does not presume some evil intent, it's often in the women's interest to do so when she does. It's hurtful but it's not evil trait for a woman that thinks she can upgrade, to do so. Stealing is in the interest of the theif, and if lying and infidelity is involved in the "upgrade" or divorce, those are "evil," immoral actions to a selfish end. If she lies and cheats in the process of "upgrading," or it's just as evil
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 12:46 PM
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I don't think " all blacks are thugs" is a fair comparison to " women are picky". You just agreed with me that AWALT includes things like "divorce rape," cheating, and spermjacking. How is assuming all women share that level of greed and dishonesty not a sweeping negative view? Alot of people that think rp believes are sexist don't think the same thing about similar beliefs about men This is a strawman argument and justifies nothing.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 10:14 AM
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If I honestly believe "all black people will break into your house and steal your money" is that racist or is it just an honest view of behavior?
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 04:21 AM
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But if I believe it to be true, acknowledging it doesn't make it hateful or misogynist. So if a person truly believes with his or her full heart that people of different races are inferior, they're not hateful or racist? If a woman really truly believes men are scum, does that mean she isn't a misandrist? You can rationalize hate however you want. All you're doing is proving to me and everyone reading this that not only do you hold women in the highest contempt, but that you do it without the sl…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 04:06 AM
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Come on, AWALT is not just "All women want a good looking man with money." AWALT says that women will cheat on you, lie to you, "divorce rape" you, spermjack you, or turn you into a "beta bux." All of those are explicitly stated in the side bar or easily found in highly upvoted posts and comments. Do you not see the contempt in those statements? I know, I know it's not what you mean when you say AWALT, but it's what those other red pill'ers mean.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 03:25 AM
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Like I don't think AWALT is misogynist, it's just a judgement on female behavior. There are stereotypes about men too. Misogyny is literally defined as "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women." AWALT is, in your words, "a judgement on female behavior." If someone is pre-judging women, how is that not being prejudiced against them?
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 02:57 AM
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It's not selection bias if I'm willing to acknowledge that it doesn't work for some as well. But here's the thing: that doesn't take into account the opportunity cost of choosing TRP instead of some other philosophy. It also doesn't take into account how many people drop out of TRP because they aren't satisfied with the results. Again I disagree that the rp is based on hate and misogyny I didn't say it was. But the community of members certainly puts misogyny on full display, and if there is a "…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 02:32 AM
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go ask rp people about their results, a lot are pleased and they aren't faking it You might want to read up on selection bias so you understand why this is not a good way to argue in favor of TRP, or anything else, really. The argument you're making boils down to this: TRP is subjectively beneficial to some men, but we don't know how many and we don't have an agreed-upon criteria for what "beneficial" means. In the meantime, all the vile hate and misogyny is on full display for anyone, any time …
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 01:18 AM
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Your comment is denying the men that are seeing great results from the RP though. They're finding that it "works", and has improved their lives with women and in general. In other words, there is definitely truth to a lot of the rp based on results alone. What proportion of men who adopt the redpill philosophy see "great results?" How are you defining "great results?" What are you basing your claim on?
/r/ExRedPill16/03/17 12:46 AM
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I think you're moving the goalposts. Your post was about redpill members. Your very first sentence was saying you weren't here to discuss the philosophy. To me there's no way to separate the words/actions of the members from the philosophy. That would be like saying "don't judge Christianity by the actions and traditions of Christians, judge it only by the literal text of the Bible." Besides, plenty of what's in the sidebar is objectionable.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/17 08:25 PM
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I dont know if whoever happens to be the most vocal on the sub is a fair way to gauge what the rp actually is or what most rp people agree with. If TRP isn't supposed to be judged based on what gets said and upvoted on there, what should it be judged on? If this supposed silent majority is sitting back not downvoting the things they supposedly find abhorrent, then they're implicitly supporting it. They shouldn't be surprised when TRP gets painted as a group of extremist misogynists.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/17 07:00 PM
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as with any ideology, it's a mistake to let the extremist voices represent the more moderate stances that are actually the foundation of it I think a big difference here is moderate redpillers don't (or can't) do anything to marginalize the extreme voices. Every attempt to moderate extreme views in RP forums is dismissed as "tone policing" or "concern trolling" or "moralizing." If the extreme voices have that kind of power over the tone and direction of discourse, it makes sense to conclude that…
/r/ExRedPill15/03/17 06:20 PM
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I'm a married man and I have orbiters. I didn't really go looking for them, just flirted a bit and have kept flirting. Some of them are married too, maybe they think I'm their backup plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 11:00 AM
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So pay attention to when you're doing it. You can't change a behavior you aren't aware of. Though you could recruit a friend to help. Get him/her to "punish" you when they see you fidgeting. Like squirt you with a spray bottle.
/r/seduction14/03/17 07:56 PM
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I'm curious, what would you see as an example of "real, fundamental, deep, life-altering change?" What would that look like from the outside, hypothetically speaking?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/17 04:45 PM
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Slow down your fidgeting. Fast fidgeting looks nervous. Slow fidgeting looks flirty.
/r/seduction14/03/17 01:39 PM
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Quote from that thread: I am pretty sure that under those circumstances, if a judge stripped you of parental rights, it would be due to you posing a threat to others. If you are a threat to others, you can, at least in NY, be involuntarily committed to a psychiatric hospital. So you'd likely lose both your parental rights, and your freedom for a while. Losing your parental rights is not the same as no longer needing to pay child support. Losing your parental rights means you aren't allowed to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 01:17 AM
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You may lose any visitation rights you may have had, but you won't get out of paying child support, if that's what you're asking. If you ever get out you'll just owe what you didn't pay while you were in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:33 AM
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Yes it's immoral to engage in self-destructive actions in an attempt to get out of responsibility. Even if it was morally acceptable, it won't work. No judge has ever said "oh, you're a cutter? Let's take away your parental obligations and call it even."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/17 03:27 AM
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What does this have to do with seduction?
/r/seduction09/03/17 07:31 PM
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I'm confused. Are you wanting examples of places that are ok for approaching or places that are not ok for approaching?
/r/seduction08/03/17 08:43 PM
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TIL autism and mental defects can be diagnosed through facial photos. This is a revolutionary medical breakthrough!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/17 04:55 PM
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One more text won't hurt but if there's no reply then best to move on.
/r/seduction08/03/17 04:53 PM
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Yes
/r/seduction08/03/17 12:40 AM
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You seem like the kind of person who has trouble admitting when they're wrong. Have you ever found that to be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 10:33 PM
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I answered the question honestly and threw in a little humor. I regret nothing. You should have just said "I would never use that phrase" You should have just said "I'm a humorless spoilsport."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 10:11 PM
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You ever find yourself in that situation? No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 09:27 PM
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I would never use that phrase unless I was reading someone's metabolic panel.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 09:21 PM
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People sometimes change, but it has to come from within. Nothing you do or say is likely to change him. Don't stay engaged to him unless he is the kind of person you can joyously be with for the rest of your life.
/r/ExRedPill07/03/17 12:31 AM
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"Thank you, I grew them myself." "Thanks, I just bought them from a Jamaican yesterday" "Thanks. Are you a cop? Because if you are, I definitely can't sell you any weed." "These aren't dreadlocks, I'm just having a really bad hair day."
/r/seduction06/03/17 11:06 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with a guy having lower or higher standards than mine, though. Of course, if you have high standards then you're going to be disappointed, single and without sex more often than not unless you're an above average guy. This, honestly. Having unrealistically high expectations is its own punishment. I sometimes wonder if it's a factor in pushing some guys to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 06:18 PM
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Polygynous. Polygamy means you marry multiple people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 02:15 PM
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Personally I've always thought looks are overrated. I'd never message someone who I found physically repulsive, but I'll definitely message fairly ordinary-looking women to see if we click on some other level. I've LTRed some great women and later found out everyone though I was out of their league. No regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 01:09 PM
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Sounds like they should be called "exboyfriend inches," not "girl inches."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:40 PM
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So if the purpose of a female orgasm is to pull sperm in deeper, and a big cock is able to deposit sperm deep regardless of orgasm, wouldn't that be a mechanism for big cocks evolving despite not being pleasurable to all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 12:32 PM
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"I have turned someone from blue pill to red" ≠ "if you understood RP you would turn from blue to red" I thought RP types were supposed to be good at logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 11:49 AM
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If you don't want to date women who have boyfriends, ask them if they have boyfriends before you ask them out. There really isn't any other way.
/r/seduction06/03/17 12:57 AM
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if there are any. I'm going out on a limb and guessing there are none.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 07:56 PM
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Awww, don't let your inferior female nature stand in the way of your dreams! Just change your dreams to spitting out baby after baby. Problem solved! I'm good too! I've mostly just been undermining my own gender by making outrageous claims about men and women deserving equal opportunities. But on the plus side my claims are all on Reddit, so I'm pretty sure nobody's paying attention to me. If civilization collapses because of the increase in female power, I'll have that as an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 07:40 PM
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Hey, I remember you :) how's it going?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 05:02 PM
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I'm beginning to think that you don't understand the fact that men are physically stronger than women and that this fact is integral to all societies. Can you point to where I said anything about the difference in strength between men and women? You can't because I didn't. I accept the observation that on average women don't have the same physical strength as men. But the conclusions you draw from that observation simply don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 03:32 PM
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It's going to keep happening. Learn to pick up on those "we made contact for a second" moments. They're an invitation to start a conversation. Once you get good at it your friends won't have to believe you: you'll be able to show them.
/r/seduction05/03/17 03:34 AM
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the human female body is HIGHLY SPECIALIZED towards pregnancy, childbirth, and child rearing. Emphasis added So that last part, child rearing, is not like the others. Child rearing involves many general tasks, both physical and mental in nature, which are easily generalizable to the modern world. Just like how men's historical roles (which also included child rearing) don't match with what modern men do, but men are able to generalize their abilities to somehow carry out tasks that their ancesto…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 02:32 AM
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These differences are huge, and are compounded by lots of other differences like running speed, due to women having wider hips. Without intervention, an average man could literally chase down an average woman and rape her at basically any time! Well, that escalated quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:44 AM
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In hindsight I wish I had known the truth about my parents' relationship. Because they presented as monogamous, and all I was ever exposed to was monogamous relationships in books, TV, and movies, I took monogamy to be the only option until I was an adult and discovered polyamory for myself. For that reason, now that I'm a father, I'm not hiding anything from my daughter. I'm careful to make sure what she knows is appropriate for her age and level of understanding, but when the time comes for he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 07:56 PM
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I have no idea. My sibling and I are the only adults I know who were raised by nonmonogamous parents, so I can't really generalize. They did an excellent job. Mine weren't perfect parents, but they gave us a nurturing, supportive environment and I've done well for myself. I don't think I would have known the difference. My parents hid it from us kids until we were adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 06:39 PM
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People (women especially) only have sex with people they are very comfortable with. Touching is a nonverbal way of expressing comfort with another person. If they touch you back, it shows that the level of comfort is mutual. But it's a long way to go to get from "I'm comfortable enough to let you touch my arm" to "I'm comfortable enough to fuck you." Each escalation gets you closer to that level of comfort, while still allowing either side the option of bailing at any time.
/r/seduction04/03/17 01:42 PM
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Touching is everything. She wants you to reciprocate and escalate.
/r/seduction04/03/17 01:32 PM
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I'm not red pill but I'm not monogamous either. I'll move my comment to the automod if the mods want me to. Of course monogamy can work. Hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of couples make it work. They aren't all 100% successful but the failure rate isn't 100% either. That said, it isn't for everyone, which is why I think it is a shame it's the only socially acceptable relationship model in our society. I think you're conflating committed romantic relationships with monogamy. Being in a comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 06:18 AM
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I agree with this. When I was in my early 20s I grew my hair out long at a time when most people kept their hair short. What I found was that most women didn't like guys with short hair, but among women who did like it, there weren't enough long-haired guys to go around. I was all at once in reduced demand among average women and increased demand among a minority of women. I kind of have the same thing going on now by keeping myself clean shaven at a time when beards are in style. Appealing to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 07:58 PM
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Agreed. Sounds like OP crossed a line.
/r/seduction03/03/17 07:05 PM
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OP: "all and most are synonyms, as are none and some" Words have meanings. Don't say one thing when you mean something else or people are going to call you out on it. And you'll look like a whiny baby when you complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 06:17 PM
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I don't deny that people who aren't attractive consistently get the short end of the stick. But if someone who experiences that then goes on to generalize their experience to everyone else, isn't that what TRP calls solipsism?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 05:45 PM
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I don't think I've ever even met a nun.
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:42 PM
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What opinions expressed on this subreddit contrast with your experience in the real world? Practically all of it. Both sides of this sub have a tendency to express opinions that are "all or nothing" in one direction or the other. But humans are infinitely more complex than that. AWALT is a good example Almost all human behaviors and traits are on a continuum. The behaviors TRP observes in women DO happen. Sometimes. The strategies TRP recommends DO work... Sometimes. But anytime either side says…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/17 03:47 PM
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Understand that there are no shortcuts around doing that "mental work." If you haven't seen this video that was posted here earlier this week, it's worth 10 minutes of your time: https://youtu.be/3-son3EJTrU Every now and then the direct approach works, but usually you're going to need to couch your intentions behind veiled language and innuendos. It's just the price of admission.
/r/seduction02/03/17 09:03 PM
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Solution: start charging for your advice.
/r/seduction02/03/17 08:51 PM
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But i look around and there are all these people getting girls that do not follow any of these 'rules'. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
/r/seduction02/03/17 07:48 PM
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less Fewer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 06:33 PM
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When women complain about men not reading their bio, they're not saying that men who actually read their bio are rare. They're saying there's an overwhelming deluge of men who waste their time not reading their bio. See the difference? Reading a woman's bio is the bare minimum for proving you're respectful of her time, but there are enough men out there who do that a woman can be choosy among them. They ALSO wish guys who don't read bios would stop wasting their time.
/r/seduction01/03/17 12:12 PM
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Yes, I always do.
/r/seduction01/03/17 03:56 AM
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Necessary to what end?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:53 PM
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You were clearly justifying what goes on in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:25 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 10:11 PM
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I've known several unattractive men who were cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:23 PM
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I think it's bound to happen when you take a species where most individuals are not naturally monogamous (humans) and put them into a society where monogamy is the only acceptable option. It's a shame that men and women choose to cheat and enable cheaters, but until ethical nonmonogamy gains social acceptance, the only outlets for people with nonmonogamous tendencies will be cheating, serial monogamy, or underground but ethical forms of nonmonogamy like swinging and polyamory. Cheating is bad an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 04:41 PM
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Ah, so you're the one Very Noble Person who treats Beta Bob with kindness and respect? I should have guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 11:01 PM
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You only have to be a halfway decent human being to treat others with kindness and respect. It's not limited to the "very noble" among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:42 PM
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Some women refuse to date doormats. Therein lies the selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/17 10:11 PM
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The part where he talks about "coming upstairs to look at my etchings" was confusing to me until I realized it was the old people version of "Netflix and chill."
/r/seduction26/02/17 04:52 AM
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You: "Hey, you went on holiday didn't you? How was it?" Don't think of it as persuing. You enjoy chatting with her, so... chat with her.
/r/seduction25/02/17 02:05 PM
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His 2nd wife cucked him with a bodyguard.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 02:01 PM
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The title of the post says "based on looks" but the text after the title says: Now, I don't mean you'd be willing to date them solely based on their appearance-- of course compatibility matters a lot too, but how frequently do you see a guy you're physically attracted to enough to be able to date, assuming they have the right personality? I think most people aren't reading past the title. OP clearly did not intend it to be a "based on looks alone" question.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 01:54 PM
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And who is OP to judge the worth of those other guys?
/r/seduction24/02/17 02:07 PM
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Low birth rates have some very positive effects on society. When a family has fewer children, it can spend more of its resources per child, increasing the future health and success of each child, making the family less likely to depend on government and charitable welfare, and giving the family more disposable income. But if the effect you're interested in is minimizing cultural change over time ("nations losing their identity), then it seems like the ratio of immigration rate to birth rate woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/17 12:01 PM
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On occasion there will be posts there where the users tell their stories about finding TRP and I'm always struck by how many start with some kind of situation of psychological or physical abuse at the hands of a woman, or witnessing the abuse of their fathers. Clearly it isn't that way in every case but very often TRP is just the abused becoming the abuser. The cycle begins anew. Glad to hear you're making progress and moving on.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/17 10:26 PM
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Good on both of you for not being jerks about it.
/r/seduction15/02/17 01:48 PM
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I know you are but what am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:13 PM
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I usually go with "I get that a lot," or "I have that effect on women."
/r/seduction22/01/17 03:16 AM
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Back in the days when hospitals took babies away from their mothers to put them into nursery wards, it wasn't unheard of for a baby to be taken back to the wrong mother. If you've got a free hour, listen to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 11:59 PM
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So how would you say one should dissent in /r/TheRedPill without being accused of approaching it from a BP angle?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 12:59 AM
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Your circular definition is circular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 12:59 PM
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a good troll like you will never pass an opportunity at calling redpillers creepy. Or you're really not as socially adept as you think.. Both, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:43 PM
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And yet the use of the word "fertile" to mean "attractive" still comes off as creepy to me and a good portion of the other commenters in this post and the other posts linked from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:37 PM
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Because it answers this question: Am I that special or is there more going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:28 PM
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If you really want to know how the average person perceives the words used by The Red Pill, take a stroll through the comments left here: https://np.reddit.com/r/HighQualityGifs/comments/5nxbwt/when_i_accidentally_stumble_into_rtheredpill/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:25 PM
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Oh my mistake. Red Pillers are obviously just misunderstood wordsmiths. I was such a fool to believe they words they say actually mean what the dictionary says they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:03 PM
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That link lists every definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:54 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding "fertility" here. It's not about whether a woman is medically able to have a child. No, I am not misunderstanding "fertility."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:51 PM
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LOL k.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:44 AM
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I was speaking more broadly about the other reprehensible things RP'ers say. But talking about women in terms of their "fertility" being a desirable trait is creepy like OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:32 AM
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You're missing my point. You said: Just because someone says something in one way on the internet doesn't mean that they're like that offline. What I'm saying is if they say reprehensible things online, that's a better gauge of their character than the fact they keep their mouths shut about it away from the keyboard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:27 AM
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"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." - Oscar Wilde I agree that RP'ers most likely behave better in real life social situations, but only because there would be severe negative consequences if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 02:03 AM
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Somebody gilded this post? What a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/17 01:19 AM
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I think there's a point to be made that anyone who overhears someone being called a "creep" (edit: or any other slanderous word) should take it with a grain of salt unless they know the exact behavior that lead to that label. But just because some portion of creep-labeling is unjustified doesn't wholesale invalidate the term, which is what you said in your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:21 PM
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Most labels are given selectively. "Alpha," "Beta," "Chad," "Ugly," "Beautiful," "Slut," ... Just because a label has subjective criteria doesn't mean it's invalid. If you creep me out, I have a right to call you a creep. And if you whine while creeping me out, I'll call you a whiny creep. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 10:08 PM
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Is it possible to successfully catch them and mock their behavior? Of course it's possible, but why bother? Just move on and be grateful you avoided a woman who was not what you're looking for. No need to be a jerk about it.
/r/seduction14/01/17 01:42 PM
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5/4
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:53 PM
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This is what I will choose to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:07 PM
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Suppose I hit someone on the arm hard enough to leave a bruise. How much violence did I just consent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:25 PM
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"demonstration of force" is extremely vague. Would you mind elaborating? On certain (outdated) color wheels, yellow is on the opposite side from purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:21 PM
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What exactly are you advocating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:09 PM
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If a person attacks another person, the attacked person has a right to defend himself/herself, but also has a responsibility to not escalate. If a weak person hits a strong person, and the strong person hits the weak person back, that typically constitutes an escalation, which risks further escalation from the other side. The better course of action is to remove yourself from the situation or nonviolently subdue the other party. Those aren't always feasible so at times escalation is the only opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:58 AM
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I agree that the quality of discourse needs to improve on PPD. The rules are rarely enforced, if ever. That being said, the January PPD User Survey is still open. If you want things to change around here, that's one way to have your voice heard (presumably).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 03:36 AM
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That may be the best compliment I've received in weeks.
/r/seduction11/01/17 01:28 AM
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most couples are pretty on par lookswise Years of research and multiple studies back this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:53 PM
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Where can I find these women who prefer to date men less attractive than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 10:01 PM
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does it look like the answer would be a no? If you're afraid of "no" you're not going to get very far.
/r/seduction10/01/17 09:51 PM
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Come up with little games to play with each other. These can be either real games or improvised ones. I've brought checker/chess boards into the office before. Make an opening move, then wait for her to make hers. A move every 2-3 hours will keep the day going more quickly and give you something to talk about. The "improvised" games are really just opportunities to be playful. As one example, one of my co-workers has a little doll that sits on a shelf by her desk. One day I asked her about it an…
/r/seduction10/01/17 09:31 PM
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My theory is that this is because a more attractive man is going to tend to be more secure in the relationship, while the less secure man is going to be more insecure. Here's how it might play out: Let's say you're a woman of above-average attractiveness, a 7 on a 1-10 scale. The guys you date will probably be between 6s and 8s for the most part, with the occasional 5 or 9. To that man who most would consider a 5, there's a good chance you're among the hottest women he has ever dated. When you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/17 01:33 PM
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Even in the states, vehicular murder/manslaughter is treated as a lesser offence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:57 AM
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Polyamorous man here. In my opinion there are a lot of appealing reasons to adopt a non-traditional relationship. There is overwhelming evidence that humans are not a monogamous species. Even though monogamy is held as the only option under legal, cultural, religious, and social rules, infidelity is rampant, with many surveys showing upwards of 40% of individuals admitting to cheating on their spouse or long-term partner. Non-monogamous relationships provide an ethical, honest way to explore sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 07:04 PM
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So the RP argument for not raping boils down to the consequences for the rapist with no mention of the consequences for the victim? Doesn't that imply that if you have an opportunity to rape someone where you have high likelihood that you'll never get caught and/or good reason to believe you'll receive a lax punishment, that raping someone is an acceptable thing to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 04:03 AM
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There's an important difference between being nice and being kind. Nice is when you do things to please others because you want to gain their approval. Kind is when you do things to please others without any expectation of getting something in return. Nice people tend to get resentful if their niceness doesn't get the desired effect. Kind people aren't keeping score. Always be kind.
/r/seduction07/01/17 03:38 PM
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they do say that a woman's attractiveness is almost 100% physical Who is the "they" who says that? I've been attracted to many, many women, and I disagree wholeheartedly with that assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/17 04:12 AM
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A woman can get free birth control at planned parenthood or her local public health clinic. A man can get free condoms at planned parenthood or his local public health clinic. They both are on their own when it comes to actually finding someone to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:48 PM
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Both of which can be done while engaging in intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:00 PM
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Interest goes away when you're not around the person you're interested in, or not thinking about them. If you're told you can't have something that interests you, you're okay with it, because you know something else interesting will come along. Interest includes a willingness to let go. Neediness is persistent. The feeling is there even when the thing you need is nowhere around. When the thing you need is something that can be provided by another person, it's usually possible to transfer your se…
/r/seduction04/01/17 05:21 AM
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Interest is about the other person. Neediness is about you. When you are interested in them, it's because something unique about them has caught your attention and compels you to find out more When you are needy, you have some kind of internal deficit that you think can only be filled by someone else.
/r/seduction04/01/17 04:10 AM
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This. You may as well use plotlines from old 1980s soap operas to "confirm" RP troofs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:02 AM
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Star Trek confirms that Klingons are a warlike but honorable race. CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:42 AM
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No reality show should ever be used to "confirm" anything about human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:16 AM
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Attraction and compatibility are two different things it's possible to be attracted to someone who you are not long-term compatible with. It's possible /u/wrdsmith495 is right that she's testing you, but if you're looking for a LTR, which it sounds like you are, you'll be doing yourself a favor if the woman you end up with actually communicates with you instead of playing this "I can't love you but I want you to pursue me" game. This one sounds super immature. But if you're resolved to try again…
/r/seduction01/01/17 02:26 PM
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/r/thebluepill is a subreddit that, among other things, calls out /r/theredpill for its most egregious examples of misogyny and racism. Here is a link to the search results for "racist" https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/search?q=racist&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all I came across some material and beliefs about women that were a bit over the top but since I wasn't a woman I looked passed it. We should never be complacent in the face of hatred. There's a famous quote from a pastor in Nazi…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/16 01:44 PM
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If you are letting people CHOOSE what they identify as, they will make their decisions based on biology impulses/feels/whatever. I've said this to you a few times now. Repeating yourself is not providing evidence or reasoning, so I will assume you have none. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:45 AM
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the more aspects of culture you let somebody choose to identify as ("i identify as a japanese woman who is pansexual" and so on), the more biology takes precedent in decision making. What is your evidence or reasoning for making that assertion? SJW and feminists want people to pick most if not all aspects of culture they identify as How are you defining culture? Because in my understanding of the word, this sentence doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:33 AM
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Are you not saying there's a causal chain that starts with your above example and leads to all human decision making becoming 100% (or primarily at least) biologically determined rather than the current state? Because it seems like a non sequitur to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:25 AM
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If a culture is not pushing this upon the child (because the child should be allowed to choose what to identify themselves with), then biology will be making all these decisions. This is not the same argument you made in your original post. In the original post, you say biological determinism becomes the biggest factor in human decision making, not just gender identity. How do you justify that leap?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 04:16 AM
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It's unclear to me what you mean here. You've said SJW types want to be able to choose their culture, but you're also talking about people pushing down the amount culture dictates their behavior. If someone adopts a new culture, it doesn't mean their behavior is no longer influenced by culture as a whole, it means their behavior is influenced more by the new culture and less by the old one. I don't see any mechanism for people to reduce the overall sum influence of culture(s) on their behaviors.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:52 AM
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There are examples of identical twins raised in separate families where despite being genetically identical, their behaviors are (feigned gasp) not 100% identical. No informed person would ever believe behavior is 100% biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:38 AM
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the only thing left to guide your decisions is biological. If culture is not influencing your decisions and thus your actions, that is tantamount to it not existing
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:27 AM
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If you can't remove culture, why are you basing your argument on the premise that culture can be taken out of the equation?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:15 AM
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You didn't address my assertion that nobody is saying culture is going away (and it's impossible for it to go away anyway) Religion and culture are no doubt intertwined, but it's possible to share religion with someone of a different culture, and it's possible to share the same culture with someone of a different religion, so they clearly are not the exact same thing. Reasoning is a form of both, when you are trying to reason with something/someone you are using your brain, which is biology at w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:00 AM
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I don't think anyone is saying culture should not influence human behavior (and if anyone is saying that, I would argue that you cannot separate humans from culture any more than you could take language away). And maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I would say reasoning and religion are other factors separate from culture and biology that can influence human behavior. But speaking of biology determining gender, in the traditional model where presence or absence of a Y chromasome determines gender, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:44 AM
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if the goal is to have people be able to choose what they identify as, people will make their decisions based on their biological desires and impulses. Thus, if you minimize the concept of cultural, race, gender, sexual restrictions (as social constructs are considered oppressive), the only thing left to guide your decisions is biological. Why must biological factors become the only thing to guide someone's decisions? Humans are complex decision-making entities. I think you're simplifying to a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 02:30 AM
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Risk of divorce is lowest for people (men and women alike) whose age at first marriage is around 32. The risk increases after that but even in your early 40s you're no more likely to divorce than someone who got married in their teens. Source: http://family-studies.org/want-to-avoid-divorce-wait-to-get-married-but-not-too-long/ There are a lot of differences between western cultures and more traditional ones. I assume traditional cultures have their reasons for discouraging women from waiting to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 05:01 PM
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Excellent post. The "pill" and man/fem-sphere subreddits are negative and depressing, and the healthy option is to stay away. don't be afraid to love. I would add to this: don't be afraid to get hurt. It seems like a major theme I see in red pill subs is "women might hurt you so you should be on guard at all times." Pain and heartbreak are a part of life. If you are always assuming the worst, you'll never escape the negative RP mindset
/r/ExRedPill28/12/16 09:32 PM
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I never said I was one of the men who shys away from successful, independent, career-minded women. Quite the opposite: I married one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 07:16 PM
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Men can be proud and competitive. We're socialized to be the providers of our households, so some men can feel inadequate if we're not contributing at least half to the family income. This can be made worse if the man's social circle is aware of the imbalance. I grew up in a household where my mom made more than my dad, and I remember comments from his friends about "who wears the pants in the family." So I think you're right that there's nothing overly intimidating about it, but it can still co…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 12:01 PM
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I have no idea. I'm not a man who is of that opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 06:11 AM
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I hope that you stop taking RP so seriously Sounds like good advice for everyone who reads TRP, not just OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:35 AM
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I don't think it has much impact on a woman's value in the sexual marketplace, but I think it has a fairly large impact on her value in the relationship marketplace. Anecdotally, I work and socialize with many men and women who have master's degrees and higher. Among them, for every 1 man who is not in an LTR there are probably 5 women not in an LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 04:45 AM
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WHY WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 09:29 PM
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I think it changes things slightly, but not a lot. /U/thexxl said it better than I could.
/r/seduction23/12/16 02:40 PM
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Normally I would say "dating someone at work gets a bad rap so don't rule it out. Just be aware of the pros and cons" But then you said this: And honestly I don't want a relationship, I just want to fuck her. That's really it. No. If you're just looking for a quick lay, find someone who can't mess up your ability to make a living.
/r/seduction23/12/16 01:45 PM
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Indicator of interest.
/r/seduction22/12/16 04:59 AM
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The Eisenhower Urgent/Important Principle states that tasks exist on two axes: urgency and importance. A task can be urgent but not important, such as a car alarm malfunctioning. Or it can be important but not urgent, like eating a healthy diet or getting enough exercise. A task can also be both urgent and important, like getting out of a burning building; or neither urgent nor important, like twiddling your thumbs. Under that principle, self-development is important but not urgent. It's easy to…
/r/seduction22/12/16 12:51 AM
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Let me get this straight. The sex sucks, she's lazy and boring, you're only dating her because she gave you an ultimatum, you want to see other women... Clearly you need to propose to her. That or knock her up.
/r/seduction20/12/16 07:53 PM
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Just keep it playful and you can't go wrong.
/r/seduction20/12/16 03:39 AM
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And/or contracted syphilis.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:49 AM
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Both of my partners are free to have sex with others, though we have some mutually agreed upon rules about safety, honesty, and scheduling. I stay connected to my partners by making time for each of them and keeping communication open. They stay in my life because they value what I bring into their lives. If they want to wander off I can't stop them, but the same is true of monogamous relationships. In a way they're less likely to leave me for someone else because I'm the one who would never mak…
/r/seduction16/12/16 09:19 PM
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Not everyone is cut out for monogamy. Look into polyamory and other forms of ethical nonmonogamy. But tread lightly negotiating a switch while in a monogamous relationship. Sometimes it works out but more often you'll find she wants to stick with monogamy. I'm long-term ethically nonmonogamous (14 years) so let me know if you have questions.
/r/seduction16/12/16 08:17 PM
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Sex is integral and a sine qua non of marriage. No sex, no marriage. Sex is what makes a marriage a marriage. It's perfectly fine for you to feel that way for yourself, and since you do, I encourage you (and everyone who feels this way) to talk to your partner(s) and make sure the feeling is mutual. But it seems problematic that you're trying to define marriage as unconditionally being over if one partner loses interest in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:29 PM
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What on earth does marital rape have to do with sexual exclusivity? Are you seriously bringing it up because I used the word "traditional" to describe the marriage vows most people are using in 2016? You need to work on your trolling techniques. They lack the required subtlety.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 09:37 PM
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If it's so important to men then they should probably start getting that explicit promise early on in the relationship. Maybe put it into their marriage vows or prenuptial agreements. But until things change, I stand by my assertion that most couples never make an explicit promise for the continuation of sex, and so dead bedrooms shouldn't be treated as a broke promise or breech of contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:51 PM
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Honestly I don't think I would make that promise. I don't take kindly to ultamatums like you described above, and I can imagine a range of scenarios outside the medical/age related exceptions you outlined above where I wouldn't want to provide her with sex on demand. Now I answered, so tell me how it's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:32 PM
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Whether or not I'd be OK with it is irrelevant to whether or not I have, or others have, made that promise in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:14 PM
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"I promise I won't have sex with other people while in a relationship with you." You may be familiar with the phrase, "forsaking all others" from the traditional marriage vows? You realize it explicitly means the same as you wrote above? As does "I think our relationship should be exclusive, what do you think?" Virtually ALL married couples make those promises, and a huge proportion of LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:12 PM
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Someone promising they won't stop having sex with you and breaking that promise is breach of contract. I've been in numerous LTRs and am currently married, and never once has a partner said anything resembling "I promise to never stop having sex with you." Maybe some people assume it's a part of the arrangement but I would be shocked to find out more than a tiny fraction of long-term couples make an explicit promise resembling "I won't stop having sex with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:03 PM
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However, just saying 'trust your partner' and leaving it at that is wishful thinking. If you think anyone here is advocating that, you are completely missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:59 AM
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What do you feel that implies in terms of what you should seek out and how you should behave in your own interpersonal relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 12:58 PM
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That all sounds reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 12:56 PM
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Are you implying that you either need to avoid relationships altogether or enter them with the mindset that the other person may fuck you over at any time therefore you may as well fuck them over first?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 12:54 PM
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when both people are giving and expecting nothing in return, it ends up overall equal, but not calculating equal, if you know what I mean. I would take it even farther than this. When two people give and expect nothing in return, the two of them end up far better off than either of them could have been on their own. There's a synergy that comes with altruistic cooperation that cannot be achieved through any other relationship type.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:57 AM
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I am not sure what you mean by "mainstream dating advice." There's so much contradictory, ill-advised bullshit out there, and frankly I never paid it any attention when I was single, and I couldn't say whether the people I know followed it. I was referring to this. Ok, well, I was referring to the later comment where you used the word "wealthy" three times in one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:26 AM
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There are many, many people out there who follow mainstream dating advice and don't wind up happy I never said anyone should follow mainstream dating advice. I never used the term "wealthy." Um, yes you did That's not much different than saying that because my family is wealthy, and we know a lot of other wealthy people, well, it can't be much of a stretch to believe that everyone can be wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:11 AM
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TRP relationships are basically just like roommates rather than a relationship. Except for MRP relationships where one spouse is trying to turn it into the Authority Ranking relationship type.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:55 AM
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I had never thought about it that way. Who would you say should pay for a date (or series of dates) to increase the odds of ending up in Communal Sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:44 AM
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I think a much better analogy is: because I brush my teeth and don't have cavities, and everyone I know brushes their teeth and doesn't have cavities, that most people should be able to maintain good oral health by taking care of their teeth. You framed your analogy on something extremely difficult and centered around a zero-sum game (assuming you mean wealthy in relative terms). I framed my analogy around something that requires dedication but is simple and can scale to the entire population.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 01:27 AM
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RP doesnt say those relationships arent "Achievable", they RIGHTLY say the ones that arent male dominated hierarchical ones lack the respect men desire and devolve into female led relationships in which neither are happy You're saying relationships are either male dominated or female dominated. If someone is dominating, it is Authority Ranking and not Communal Sharing. So you are saying it isn't achievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 12:27 AM
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You can't be a victim of communal sharing if you are doing it right, because you don't expect any sort of compensation for what you invest in the relationship. I don't think being in a communal sharing relationship means you don't expect any compensation. To me that sounds like a recipe for codependency and martyrdom. I would say with communal sharing the expectation is that both your actions will be done with equal consideration for both your best interest in mind. If your partner stops having …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 09:32 PM
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Even if you believe that communal sharing relationships are possible, how much of a stretch is it to believe that they happen so frequently? For those of us who are in them now and have seen them among dozens of our friends and relatives, it's not a stretch at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 09:23 PM
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Watch this video and see if it helps explain things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJTrU
/r/seduction12/12/16 01:11 PM
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Human history includes thousands of generations of men who are accustomed to having higher status than the women they partner with. History is just as likely to be a factor in men avoiding high-status women as in women seeking high-status men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:32 AM
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I'm not trying to justify shitty behavior, but there are benefits to being a part of a close-knit friends group. The trade-off is you have to put up with the herd mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:28 AM
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Ok. What's your reasoning for believing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 03:21 AM
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I would take this a step farther. Many men actively avoid dating women who make more money than them or are otherwise perceived as more successful than them, smarter than them, etc. Example 1: I was raised in a household where my mom was more educated than my dad and earned a lot more money. He was ok with it, but he also caught a lot of shit about it from his buddies. He tried not to let it get to him, but I could tell it did sometimes. Example 2: I work for a company that has a lot of very hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:21 AM
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Seriously. But if you go on a Red Pill subreddit saying your SO isn't "like that" the main reaction is "she's already cucking you, you just don't know it yet."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:13 AM
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Not a movie, but in season 4 of The Wire, Randy Wagstaff stands lookout while two guys and a girl have sex in a school bathroom. Later the two guys call the girl a whore and she retaliates by accusing them of rape. Randy gets in trouble for being the lookout.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:21 PM
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I'm 3 for 3 with 30+ year olds with master's degrees.
/r/seduction08/12/16 06:43 PM
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All blue pullers have the POTENTIAL to hold that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:26 AM
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The Wire and Game of Thrones both get better with every viewing.
/r/seduction07/12/16 03:51 PM
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https://postimg.org/image/w8jblgtcn/ Your graph cuts out more than half of the number line (0-4.5 and 8-10) and confuses mean (average) with mode (most common value). The 80% and 20% are at arbitrary cutoff points. The average woman was rated a 6.6-6.7. The average man was rated a 5.9. So the difference between the modal (not average) man and the modal woman is less than 1 point, and the difference between men and women is less than the difference among men or the difference among women. Your "e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:46 PM
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Through most of human history, marriage has been a practical arrangement rather than a romantic one. It kind of makes sense that things would eventually go back to the norm. One way isn't necessarily better or worse, it's just human nature.
/r/ExRedPill07/12/16 01:18 PM
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failure is no reason to quit. Failure is a perfectly valid reason to quit. If someone tells me X doesn't work, and I try my best at X but it doesn't work, it would be pretty dumb of me to keep trying X.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:09 PM
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How would it be soul crushing to agree to an open relationship and then find out your partner was doing what had been agreed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:16 AM
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Yes, and I have, but I'[m] polyamorous and they have all been too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 12:13 AM
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This reminds me of a video I watched recently, and have thought about posting to this subreddit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-son3EJTrU In short, you switched abruptly from light, indirect banter to something that was an overt reference to dating and/or relationships. That was on top of it being a worker/client interaction which requires more subtlety. What you tried would have stood a much better chance in a bar or club or someplace where overt flirting is more acceptable.
/r/seduction04/12/16 03:31 PM
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Nontoxic masculinity conforms to ASTM D 4236 in accordance with the federal Labeling Hazardous Art Materials Act. Toxic masculinity, I presume, does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:42 PM
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There are women out there who will break your heart and kick you while you're down. But the notion that "ALL women are like that" is simply false. Even the Red Pillers don't actually believe it. If you go into the "purple pill debate" reddit, there are tons of comments where Red Pill guys backpedal like crazy, saying "AWALT doesn't mean that literally every woman is like that all the time, it means that all women are capable of being like that in the right circumstances." But once you make up yo…
/r/ExRedPill01/12/16 06:54 PM
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "genuine love." How would you define it?
/r/ExRedPill01/12/16 05:40 PM
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Thanks, your informative post just ruined my username AND my pill :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:12 PM
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I can list several advantages. You're likely to have more in common with someone you work with vs a random person: common educational/training background, common interests, similar socioeconomic status (which someone else has already mentioned), etc. When you work with someone, it's easier to screen for whether they have major red flags. It doesn't require any extra investment of time. Every other suggestion here requires going new places, getting new hobbies, or investing more time in what you'…
/r/seduction01/12/16 04:00 PM
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Lots of things. I believe that monogamy is overrated and society feeds us a lot of BS about finding a partner and being in a long-term relationship. I believe men and women have some innate differences in behavior. But I don't believe any of those things justify the deplorable tactics and attitudes prescribed by The Red Pill. But there is no organized "yellow pill." That part is a reference to Alanis Morissette's 1995 album Jagged Little Pill, combined with the fact yellow is opposite purple on …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:41 PM
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The opposite of purple. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:31 PM
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I'm offended you didn't ask how many yellow pillers are involved in polyamory. Anyway, the answer is: one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 12:40 PM
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Meeting people at work catches a lot of shit, but it was the #1 way people met their future spouses back before the internet pushed it down to #2 where it still is today. It's still a bad idea to date your superiors, subordinates, or close teammates, and you usually shouldnt just pump & dump a coworker, but if there's a cute girl/guy in another division who catches your eye, there's usually no harm in asking them out. I'm old enough to remember back when everyone understood "don't dip your pen i…
/r/seduction01/12/16 11:53 AM
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Women have much better peripheral vision than men. Chances are she noticed you were looking at her and chose not to return your gaze or give any other IOIs. Maybe she wasn't attracted to you, maybe she was taken, maybe she wasn't in a flirty mood, maybe she has crippling social anxiety. It wouldn't have hurt anything to go to her table, but without IOIs you're probably better off finding someone else to approach.
/r/seduction30/11/16 09:58 PM
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I agree that branch swinging isn't exclusive to one gender, in fact I almost never see it referring to male behavior, especially on Red Pill forums. I think my definition of branch swinging is different than u/HeatseekingLogicBomb's. I consider it branch swinging when you arrange your next relationship before the current one is over. The analogy is that you wait until your hand is on the next branch before letting go of the previous one. I think it's usually deceptive to both the new partner (wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 09:43 PM
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I agree. Maybe people just prefer to moralize.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:39 PM
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When blue pillers say "based on my morals you're a bad person!", they're doing the latter. If they really wanted to have a serious conversation, they'd use arguments in the form of "if you do X that I don't like, it's going to make you less successful with women, not more." Correct, though if you read between the lines, this argument communicates that the Red Piller will face social stigma as a consequence of his beliefs/actions, which may or may not matter to the Red Piller. To extend it to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 08:21 PM
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I think what you've written here about professional ethics can also be applied to interactions between men and women under the red pill. It's often said in red pill forums that men should be dominant over women and women are child-like. To me it seems that implies some obligation for men to behave ethically toward women based on the dominant/subordinate nature of the relationship. What is the other thing that ethics relies on besides Morality especially when it comes to sexual strategies? I beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 07:55 PM
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There are other definitions of ethics that don't rely on morality, such as professional ethics: The rules of conduct in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc. As is often said, there is even honor among thieves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 05:16 PM
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Sure, sex, bjs, etc feel good. But that doesn't mean you have to rely on them for self-worth. Physical pleasure is something else entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 04:42 PM
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Seek validation from other sources, and from within.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 03:11 PM
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I've heard it called "the curse of knowledge." The more you know about something, the harder it is to talk about that thing to people who know less about it than you.
/r/seduction30/11/16 02:08 PM
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This assumes each party finds out about the action. If an action is wholly or partly hidden, then one party lacks the information needed to act reciprocally or potentially decide not to stay in a relationship that is not in their best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:53 PM
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So everything is amoral, in your view? How about ethics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:43 PM
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I don't think I strayed one bit from the dictionary definition of the word. I explicitly stated that I'm not referring to sexual consent. Morality may be indifferent to sexual success but isn't morality generally clear that you shouldn't misrepresent yourself when entering into a transaction? If I sell you a car that has had the odometer tampered with, aren't I doing a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:39 PM
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Provided both parties consent... I'm curious what you mean by this part. It seems to me that when TRP talks about sexual strategy, whether male or female, they talk about things that are very often done without the knowledge or consent of the other party. To be clear, I'm not saying the sex is not consensual, but the strategies themselves are not. For example, dread game is never done with the consent of the partner, nor is branch swinging. Amused mastery is not done with the consent of the part…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 12:10 PM
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I've known men who were able to lie about it for years, decades even. So while 20% is the ballpark for confirmed cheaters in men, there is no doubt more cheating going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:18 PM
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Your own article says men cheat more than women. recent studies say the figure is around 20 per cent for men and a bit over 15 per cent for women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:13 PM
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A pat during a hug is generally a sign to the other person that you're ready to end the hug, which is why it's a part of a bro-hug. IOIs during a hug would be more like if she uses 2 hands AND holds you lower than mid-back, and if she makes and holds eye contact immediately after the hug. Regarding partnering up, this could be an IOI but it also could be something else. Are you in the top 10-20% of the class? She might be pairing with you in hopes of a better grade. That's not to say she isn't i…
/r/seduction29/11/16 12:18 PM
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Through the reflection and self-improvement you're describing above, have you been able to identify the factor(s) that are barriers to ending up with a woman? You imply negativity and depression may have to do with it but are there others? Examples that sometimes trip people up include unrealistic standards/expectations and failing to put yourself out there. I know it sounds glib but once you identify the barriers it's just a matter of overcoming them. Also, how are you defining "success with wo…
/r/ExRedPill27/11/16 04:34 PM
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Here's my opinion about marriage: Marriage is a symbol of a high-quality, stable, enduring relationship. Ideally, everyone should wait for quality before initiating marriage. But many people (men and women alike) get the causality mixed up. They think marriage causes a relationship to be high-quality, stable, and enduring. So they enter into marriage with a person they are not compatible with. If you have realistic expectations of what marriage does, then by all means, get married. But if you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:46 AM
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If your wallet is in your back pocket or anywhere else where it gets continually squeezed/rubbed and possibly exposed to temperatures above room temperature, it's going to break down the latex. The only worse place to store it is in the glove box of your car, unless you park your car in an air conditioned garage.
/r/seduction23/11/16 01:31 PM
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In many cases you are right, but culture does not always follow the same reproductive path as genetics, and so there are certainly examples of widespread cultural practices that are biologically counterproductive, such as priests and nuns remaining celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 10:33 PM
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The article states that research has found a false paternity rate of 1-2% per generation. Nobody is trying to say the rate of false paternity is 33% per generation. And the 1 in 3 statistic cited earlier, if valid, is based on a small number of nonrepresentative individuals over a large number of generations and shouldn't be generalized to the rest of the population. It's nothing more than a collection of interesting anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 07:50 PM
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It certainly applies to Richard III and/or his descendants http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30281333
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 05:11 PM
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In the animal kingdom when they say an animal is monogamous they mean it mates for life: one partner forever and that's it. If we're applying animal standards to humans then the vast majority of humans aren't monogamous. But even within our society's definition of monogamy, that 25% of women and 40% of men are cheating despite extremely high social costs and a strong moral narrative against cheating. It's safe to say that if those costs and narrative were removed, cheating would become more prev…
/r/seduction17/11/16 12:01 PM
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Just brainstorming some ideas: Start a youtube channel where you document the process of planning, undergoing, and recovering from the surgery. This will help you build followers and maybe a video will go viral. Write letters to your elected officials telling them what you did and why. Start a campaign encouraging other men to do the same as you, with information you learned about undergoing the procedure but also tips on how to publicize and advocate, based on what worked for you. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 04:27 AM
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What do you hope to accomplish by publicizing it? Who are you thinking of publicizing it to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 03:53 AM
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I'm in the "open relationship" category. Some people are built for monogamy, but many (perhaps most) are not. Best to keep things safe and honest and fun.
/r/seduction17/11/16 03:09 AM
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It's not to show off. It's not to prove anything to his friends. If anything, it's to prove something to himself. It's a sense of accomplishment, well-being, and internal satisfaction. What about the Red Pill concept of "moped girls?" It's defined as girls who are "fun to ride but you wouldn't want your friends to find out." https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2ymxs1/prioritize_your_goals_abundance_mentality_is_the/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2hx8tm/comment/ckx2agh htt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 04:38 PM
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Fertility at 18, 20, 25, and 30 is all within a few percentage points of each other. I wasn't cherry picking 18 because it's lower than 20-25. My point is that even if OP prefers a younger partner, insisting on 18 is fairly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 02:57 PM
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There is only a marginal difference in the fertility of an 18 year old and a 30 year old. If fertility was what you were really interested in you would be open to a wider range of ages. Many parts of the developing world have high rates of infertility, even among young women, due to the effects of poverty, disease, and lack of health care. Not where I'd go if I was in the market for a fertile wife. So it all makes me wonder... Is it really fertility you care about, or something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 01:52 PM
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Yes, exactly.
/r/seduction15/11/16 12:39 AM
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You don't. Elevators, cars, and other places where she doesn't have the option of putting some distance between you and herself are bad places to start your physical escalation.
/r/seduction14/11/16 08:57 PM
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Is this a picture of two faces or a vase?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 05:56 PM
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I N C E P T I O N
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:03 PM
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proves You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. If it works then there is no need for improvement. The battle cry of the mediocre.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 04:07 AM
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The existence of this subreddit disproves that. This subreddit has no official tie to TRP. The discussions here don't have an influence on TRP any more than discussion on any other internet forum. TRP and PPD have no mods in common, and TRP doesn't even link to PPD in its sidebar. PPD's existence proves nothing about TRP. We assess results all the time, I'd argue it's a core part of Redpill ideology- look back on yourself and see what you can improve. As I have said in other comments to this pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:35 AM
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People who disagree with it don't understand how RP was built, a posteriori. Doesn't this imply that if BPers understood how RP was built, they would agree with it? I find that unlikely. That's why it's defined by the success, not the failure, Dude, survivorship bias. You can't look at success independent of failure. it's why the concepts independent about how people feel about it. Nobody here is talking about feelings, we're talking about results.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 04:05 PM
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You're making a flawed comparison. If a business fails I think it is totally reasonable to examine the specific advice that was given to that entrepreneur and what assumptions they made going into their endeavour, and to adopt new assumptions and try new things the next time that entrepreneur starts a business. TRP doesn't allow its assumptions to be questioned nor does it provide different advice for different circumstances (unless you count MRP, which is just as dogmatic and immovable, but for…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:37 PM
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I'm talking about the advice given and the assumptions held by the red pill. The sidebar material, for example. It's treated as a final, unassailable authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 02:26 PM
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Did you read what I wrote? I'm talking about improving the system, not mere discussion of individual members' actions. But since you brought it up, anytime something is said to work that isn't already in the sidebar, the poster is called a liar or naive or an ignorant cuck. Anytime someone tries the prescribed actions and they don't work, the group blames the poster, saying he needs to lift more or hold better frame etc. The possibility that the advice could have been wrong isn't up for discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:55 PM
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I think the "TRP takes credit for all successes and no credit for failures" issue is a symptom of a much deeper set of issues, among them: TRP doesn't have ANY mechanism for assessing whether the claims it makes are effective in the real world, and TRP puts disproportionate power and control in the hands of a select few ideologues bloggers "endorsed contributors," and moderators who don't seem eager to let go of the reins. If TRP was serious about trying to improve the lives of the men it claims…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:44 PM
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If this was true nothing in society would ever change. Advertisers would run the same ads year after year because no one at the agencies would question the effectiveness of last year's ads. Carmakers would release the exact same models year after year and safety standards would stagnate because nobody would accept that stalled sales and passenger safety was the responsibility of the company. Sure, the companies may publicly point the finger at outside factors, but unless they're actively looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:27 PM
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I think it's funny how many wannabe alphas read somewhere that alphas prefer younger women and decide that if they pursue younger women that makes them alpha. So many neckbeards chasing so many college girls... Keep negging, bros, I'm sure you'll get one eventually! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 02:03 PM
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I agree with you that "the wall" as envisioned by TRP is bullshit, but as a man in his late thirties who has been in and out of the dating scene over the better part of two decades, my observation is that the dating landscape does shift as you get older, and in general it shifts in a way that makes it easier for older men than younger men. All that is required for this shift to take place is for some men to generally prefer partnering with younger women and women to generally prefer partnering w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 01:55 PM
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a real alpha lifts people up and isn't a dick This subreddit Is filled with idiots Such Alpha. So uplifting. WOW.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/16 12:51 PM
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For my own benefit: https://www.ceddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/549f4e/many_of_you_anger_phase_guys_are_getting_the/ Post deleted by the mods about anger phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:42 PM
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The full post was saved on ceddit: https://www.ceddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5awmxf/interesting_technique_i_developed_for_training/
/r/askTRP04/11/16 08:34 PM
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I edited my post to be more clear who I was responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 06:48 PM
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Hi, u/kick6. Here is a snippet from my original post: Another variant of this is "Women don't love men the way men love women," and for men who feel that way, what is different about how you love women vs. how women love you back? So, /u/kick6, you can see that "how men love" is 100% on topic for this post. Now, /u/kick6, stop being an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:32 PM
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And in the end, the damsel falls in love with the hero for his heroic deeds, not his personality. Not exactly blue pill brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:09 PM
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She can cheat, get fat and act shitty for years and years, she will still be their "Princess" who can do no wrong. Are there not women whose partners beat them, cheat on them, etc but who stay with their partner for years and years because "I love him"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 04:00 PM
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Men love women for who they are. What do you mean by this? Others here have argued that what you do, over time, is who you are. Do you agree or disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 03:54 PM
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... this fantasy was fed to him from childhood through his family, Disney, and other influences that depicts how women will be swooned by him if he does certain things to win their affections. The way I read /u/alreadyredschool's comment was that the reality is men will be loved for what you do and the fantasy is that you should be loved without having to do anything. Are you saying you disagree with that, and that it's a fantasy to think that actions are what ultimately wins a woman's love? If …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:57 PM
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So you expect to be loved for who you are? What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:16 PM
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That sounds like your 100% perfect, ideal fantasy. I was asking about expectations. What do you expect, realistically?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:14 PM
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Not everywhere. Some places exempt food from sales taxes. Edit: Groceries are untaxed in most US States
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 02:20 AM
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If you earn something and acquire it can you still be entitled about it? Entitlement is about receiving something that you have not earned, so no, if you have genuinely earned something, entitlement is not a feeling you would be capable of having. That being said, I think reasonable people can disagree about what amount of effort is required for something to be considered rightly earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 02:40 PM
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If being circle-jerky was justification for retiring and archiveing a subreddit, Reddit would lose 90% of its subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:53 PM
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A place for natural Chads.... I thought this was a serious discussion thread but then I lost it when I got to this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:46 PM
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Sudafed is my red pill of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:40 PM
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I think for both genders the thing I see most often is: Escalating a broken relationship in hopes that the next level will "fix" it. Examples: Unhappy with your boyfriend? Maybe if you move in he'll straighten up. Not enough sex from your girlfriend? Maybe if you propose she'll put out more. Husband can't keep a job? Maybe if you had a kid he would finally take some responsibility. So many people pushing their relationships forward when they need to be hitting the eject button.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 07:39 PM
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And the fact TRP's mantra is "All Women Are Like That" and not "Women With BPD Can Sometimes Be Like That" seems like pretty good evidence that most of TRP would not agree with OP. I mean, they call women who are not "like that" Unicorns, and many posts/commenters say they don't exist at all. If TRP is misunderstood, they have only themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 04:38 PM
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My wife didn't take my last name. Our daughter has my last name. We didn't want to do a hyphenated name and my last name was closer to the beginning of the alphabet, which is correlated with success later in life due to the cumulative effect of being put first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 09:26 PM
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Wouldn't you know it? My troll detection fluid was low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:14 AM
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Everyone just "knows" that men need to be physically attractive, that women love sex with physically attractive men, and that men need to be confident and assertive. Everyone just implicitly understands how attraction works. No one needs to be taught this, they just "know" it. They just have to "get" it. Everyone just has to figure it out from life experience. I feel like a lot of people I know in real life never get past fairy tale notions like love at first sight, soulmates, happily ever after…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:09 PM
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Well, I do have a mild sedative effect on people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 02:17 PM
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Yes. The question was about usernames.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:18 PM
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Mine is because I'm not red, blue, or purple pill (on a color wheel, yellow is the farthest you can get from both red and blue, as opposed to purple which is right between them). Then I threw in an awesome Allanis Morissette reference because I'm awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:07 PM
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Would you mind providing links to some threads that you feel exemplify the open-mindedness of /r/theredpill? I'll provide a link of my own: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/549f4e/many_of_you_anger_phase_guys_are_getting_the/ 50 points (top post of that day), 84% upvoted, but removed because it went against the conventional wisdom of the mods and the sidebar. I regret that I didn't screenshot the text, but I know there are bots and users who archive posts from TRP so maybe someone kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:54 PM
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Toddlers aren't the only humans who can be manipulated into doing things they wouldn't do of their own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 10:54 AM
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one has to prove why equality is the most optimal way to run a society. One can't come and say that equality is good because reasons. I don't think /r/TheBluePill exists to debate /r/TheRedPill. It exists to satirize the inconsistencies, confirmation bias, and blatant misogyny that permeate Red Pill subs. Thus, no need too prove anything.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/16 12:50 AM
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What about it? Edit: I'm not trying to be snarky here. PPD only proves that RP subs are insulated from criticism. "We don't allow debating ideas here but you can go to PPD for that," is hardly better than saying "We don't allow debating ideas here but you can go fuck yourself." PPD is a neutral sub, unaffiliated with TRP. They don't share any mods and there is no pretense, explicit or implicit, that the ideas of PPD have any influence over the rules and dogma of any RP subs.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/16 12:37 AM
1

If you ask me, the RP concept of AWALT is no less a reductio ad absurdum than what I've posted here, which is why I went there. I don't drive as if every driver I pass is going to do that to me You wouldn't pass Driver's Ed, then. What, because I don't swerve onto the shoulder while emergency braking, blaring the horn, and posting a field report after? Driver's ed must have gotten tough since I took it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 10:14 PM
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All Drivers Are Like That All drivers are like what? All drivers are going to come across the center lane of a narrow country road and plow into you at full speed? No. Even though there are literally tens of thousands of cases when that has happened, I don't drive as if every driver I pass is going to do that to me, and I would wager you don't either. And even if it does happen, chances are I'll be all right. My car has advanced airbags, crumple zones, and anti-lock breaks. I pay attention to my…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 09:52 PM
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One reason TRP seems more sound is that its subreddits and communities are so strictly moderated that dissenting opinions are removed and dissenting users are banned. A community that truly has reason and truth on its side doesn't need that kind of insulation.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/16 09:04 PM
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Dick pic. Works about 20% of the time.
/r/askTRP05/10/16 08:47 PM
9

That's a pretty low bar for what makes someone a Chad. By that definition I'm a Chad, and I'm definitely not a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 01:12 PM
1

It's short for "involuntary celibate." A man who wants sex but can't manage to get it due to some combination of social ineptitude and extreme unattractiveness. Take a stroll into /r/incels, /r/incelabode, or /r/truecels if you dare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 08:00 PM
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A sub like this already exists. It's /r/redpillmen and it's invitation-only. I wish I had a better understanding of why redpill subs have to continually spinter off from each other. You can't ask questions in /r/theredpill because there's /r/asktrp. You can't post about being grateful for TRP because there's /r/thanktrp. Gay people post in /r/alttrp, women post in /r/RedPillWomen (or is it /r/RedPillWives?), parents post in /r/redpillparenting, and teens post in /r/teenrp (just founded yesterday…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/16 01:10 PM
2

The anger phase bro's in /r/TheRedPill don't know they're still in anger phase. They'll flock to that sub because posting there means they're closer to "alpha" and it will end up no different than the original sub.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/16 12:54 PM
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I think there may have been some Red Pillers who took to heart the message of taking women off of a pedestal and improving themselves, but once they did those things most of them left TRP... what more did they have to gain by staying? The men who stayed were the ones who couldn't get past their anger and misogyny. This resulted in a sort of survivorship bias (the concentration of misogynists increases because less misogynistic users are less likely to stick around), which in turn leads to select…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/16 05:17 PM
7

The phenomenon of women who date women never taking initiative to make the first move is prevalent enough that it has a name: Lesbian Sheep Syndrome. Congratulations on overcoming it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:20 AM
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Non existent The word you're looking for is "rare."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:40 PM
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despite how much BP would like to bury their heads in the sand on the matter. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a blue piller who would say "men and women are not different at all." Most of us just disagree with redpillers on the ways they are different, to what extent, and the implications of those differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:39 PM
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Removed by the mods, I assume? What a shame. This was one of the few good posts I've seen here.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 06:34 PM
2

Sure, that's the "paid market for high-quality content" I mentioned. Porn actresses working for studios with high-budget production equipment are able to produce premium content that drives clicks and subscriptions. And yes, much of that premium content winds up on free sites eventually, but once it's old it isn't as premium anymore. Novelty, like quality, is a luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:48 PM
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They could get even more of an ego boost by the fact that men would pay for it, though Sure, but they'll always be undercut by the women who are willing to do it for ego boost alone. there are still men who pay women for photos. Women who sell such photos are called "sellers." Apparently men pay bc it's more personal or something haha This is what I was talking about in the part about paid markets for niche and high-quality content.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:25 PM
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Why must the benefit women get from sharing adult content be financial? Other transactions can be just as beneficial to a woman, or more so. Take a look at the comment threads in any /r/gonewild post. Here's one example from a recent top post: Your body is amazing! Your eyes are beautiful! You look good in anything and nothing! Whoever gets to have you is luckier than a lottery winner! There are hundreds of similar comments in that one post alone. Women who post pictures/video of themselves onto…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 03:07 PM
5

Fewer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:44 PM
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You have already set yourself on the right track by getting an education and working out/losing weight. The key now is maintaining those improvements and slowly, gradually adding more improvements. Therapy is an option but you could also focus on self-help through books and websites, which may have a lower bar for success. You also could consider joining some kind of club or social group, setting some goals, etc. You mention the barrier to volunteering is that the other volunteers are under 20 a…
/r/ExRedPill22/09/16 06:56 PM
1

I believe it does, and I think it tends to attract men who were already prone to negativity, doubt, and fear (see: confirmation bias), meaning it sets many men up for a self-reinforcing spiral of negativity. See also the many references to men "stuck in the anger phase."
/r/askTRP22/09/16 11:51 AM
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I volunteer for the randomized controlled trial to test that hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:57 PM
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This smells like a troll post.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/16 04:51 PM
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Of course they do, just without all that annoying "effort" it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:12 PM
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That may be the case (or may not be, I haven't seen convincing evidence either way), but you can't reach that conclusion from the data cited here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 01:10 AM
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Divorce rates have dropped, meaning divorces as a percentage of marriages. You can't explain that away as being the result of fewer marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 07:30 PM
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They have levelled out since then. Declined, even.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 05:39 PM
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I think that's a great point. I'm curious what kinds of reactions you see happening as a counterreaction to TRP? Just to speculate I would imagine women will start noticing the words and actions common to TRP and filtering men out based on their "tells."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:56 AM
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I changed OP's view! Do I get a cookie?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 09:25 PM
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I believed an idiotic thing, which everyone is guilty of from time to time. Insults don't contribute to the discussion. And no, I have no desire to be shown your sense of superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 06:54 PM
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All the other colors were taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:29 PM
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LOOOOOOL and what's your "emperical reason" for concluding I was an idiot? dat superiority. Yours is showing too :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 03:13 PM
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99% of men start off as involuntary celibates or go through a period of time when they want sex but can't have it, but you know what most of them do? They make changes in their lives to transform themselves into the kind of person a woman would voluntarily want to have sex with. I've been an incel, and for part of that time, I thought the rest of the world needed to change so I could have sex. Then I realized how stupid that was and changed myself, and it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:55 PM
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You just reminded me of the other defining characteristic of incels: When you point out something they could be doing better, they change the subject to how easy women have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 02:50 PM
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If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to [the automoderator] comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 11:08 AM
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"Ok, now buy us coke and pay for our hookers." -Incels everywhere. The defining characteristic of an incel is not the lack of sex, it's the unwillingness to take any adequate meaningful action to improve their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 11:06 AM
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I'm sure that will render any paternity test null and void.
/r/askTRP14/09/16 09:11 PM
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I get it. My question as a non-incel is: So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 05:29 AM
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But what if he can't do that or he can't do that without any positive motivation like getting a blowjob first? How does he know he can't? Blowjobs don't just fall out of the sky. If you want one you have to work for it or pay for it. no incentive to improve themselves. Do you see being an incel as a bad thing? Do you see having sex as a good thing? There's your incentive. What incentive does a non-incel have to help an incel to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:59 AM
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I work in the healthcare field, and so I'd probably follow this model of behavior change, or something similar. Incels are in the precontemplation phase. They don't think change is possible, or they think it isn't worth the effort, so they aren't even considering it. The trick then is to get them to the contemplation phase where they can realistically see themselves changing in the next six months, followed by the preparation stage and then the action stage, etc... I will freely admit that I hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:30 AM
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Please get me some studies or scientific research from accredited institutions to make me believe your claim. You're the one making a broad, positive claim about sex curing all insecurities, so I'll let you start. But regardless, if an incel really thinks sex is going to fix all of his problems, that should be all the more reason for him to change his life in whatever way he needs to in order to become the kind of person a woman would want to have sex with. If a man is insecure about sex, he can…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:15 AM
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people who don't want to undertake self improvement seriously Even the examples you gave above of organizations that empower and support and educate women require the women to put in some effort towards earning their degree, starting their business, etc. Why should anyone help someone who doesn't want to undertake self-improvement? If you want others to help you, you have to show willingness to put in some effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 04:04 AM
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You named the one insecurity that sex can help. But above you said "all their insecurities." So I stand by my statement. Sex doesn't cure insecurities. And for the record, plenty of men who have lots of sexual experience are still insecure about sex, so even there it isn't a cure-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:55 AM
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Sure. It's all fairly standard stuff. I got an education, I took care of my body, I went into therapy to address my social anxiety disorder, I volunteered for causes I cared about, I kept toxic people out of my life, I got a job and worked my way up from there. I think it's important for anyone who wants to improve their life to develop a sense of self-awareness about their own shortcomings and take steps to remedy those shortcomings. The same goes for recognizing bad habits and eliminating them…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 03:51 AM
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Why are you tying that to the plight of incels? You have zero control over those organizations and close to 100% control over your own actions, habits, and situation. Yet you seem completely focused on the thing you have no control over instead of the thing you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:58 AM
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What if sex cured all their insecurities? Sex doesn't cure insecurities. Incels are some the kindest men around, they are not greedy, this makes no sense. You realize that the tone of your post is "Why do women have something I can't have???" I'm sure there are generous incels out there, but when they make posts about how they want to have something that someone else already has, it comes across as greedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:55 AM
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But why aren't women expected to do this? Why don't people tell them to do this instead of giving them so much support? Women are also better off if they do this. I've given this exact advice to many female friends who have been in difficult times. The advice applies equally to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:49 AM
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what is stopping wealthy incels from starting incel loving nonprofits and donating time and money to them? Because it's easier to use "left wing and feminist bias of media" as an excuse to justify inaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:28 AM
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So here's why I think most men don't care about incels: with the exception of the 1% of guys who are natural born "Chads," with women throwing themselves at them from the time they're 14, almost all guys have been incels for a sizable portion of their lives. Honestly, who wasn't an awkward virgin between the ages of 14 and ±18? But then you know most of us did? We picked themselves up by our bootstraps and we made the changes we needed to make in our lives to find love, or a relationship, or sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:05 AM
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I don't think the average blue piller who encounters these comics is going to have some kind of deep "ah-ha" moment after reading them. As others have said, they come across as heavy-handed, butt-hurt and circle-jerky. As such, I would imagine they're likely to turn people off to the ideas of TRP. So I guess I'm saying I agree with you that the comics are a good thing. As for justifying downvoting, if someone thinks they're not quality content or inappropriate for the sub, that's all it takes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 02:13 PM
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You don't see it in women because women who do it openly are shunned as sluts, and so they either don't pursue sex (i.e. wait for a guy they find attractive to pursue them) or they find subtle ways of making their interest known. A corollary of this is if being perceived as slutty didn't have such a high social cost, women probably would chase men more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:42 PM
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Try this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 12:32 PM
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Link to get around the paywall
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 12:17 PM
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You misunderstand me. I'm saying that you're building a flimsy case for feminism being to blame for those things. Correlation not implying causation and all that. It's what I get for replying quickly on mobile.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 12:02 AM
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Women have also declined in overall satisfaction with life since feminism was introduced into society, which confuses those who study such issues greatly A lot of other things have changed since feminism was introduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 09:45 PM
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I agree completely with everything you said, but the advice I see most often on /r/theredpill and /r/asktrp is not to get into long term relationships with the implication being that women can't be trusted not to cheat or "divorce rape" the guy, except in a narrow range of very traditional relationships. I've been called naïve for believing a mutually beneficial egalitarian relationship between a man and a woman can exist long-term, despite being in one for 14 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:27 PM
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I'm genuinely interested in people's opinions on this. I see a lot of posts on RP subs that seem to imply that it isn't possible to have a mutually beneficial relationship between a man and a woman except in very narrowly defined situations. Many commenters here seem to be confirming that notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 05:54 PM
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Somehow I'm not persuaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 04:08 PM
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Persuasion is not achieved by aggression. You're thinking of coersion. Anyway, you should go find a dictionary to argue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:40 PM
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When you force someone to do something, you are coercing them to act against their will. Persuasion is the act of convincing someone to do something voluntarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:36 PM
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persuasively and forcefully You know those two things are mutually exclusive, right? You can't be both at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:29 PM
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Would you say the benefits that come before they reproduce come at the expense of their relationship partner? By her benefitting, he suffers by a proportional amount?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:24 PM
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Some Funny how a single word can make the difference between a RP statement and a BP statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 02:37 PM
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RP hits on the core truth of romantic relationships - that most people do respond to strong masculine and feminine identities. I don't think TRP has a monopoly on this idea. To me it seems the idea that most non-RP folks reject this is a TRP strawman. RP only has the upper hand... Why do you say RP has the upper hand? What does it mean to say they have the upper hand? if you don't like it, drive it out of the marketplace of ideas with a superior product To me the evidence indicates that TRP is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 03:25 AM
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I think what you're saying can be summed up as "the reality we live in is changing faster than our biologies or our cultural institutions can keep up with," and I agree with that assessment and feel it goes beyond just sex and relationships. Food and nutrition, technology, jobs and occupations, activity level and exercise, all are following the same pattern. The question becomes: What do we do with that information? I'm all in favor of challenging orthodoxies and finding a path that works based …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 01:13 PM
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I believe people are not particularly good at monogamy, yet society paints the institution of monogamous marriage in an unrealistically positive light.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 09:24 PM
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I'm not asking you to believe me. I'm just pointing out that you (and other followers of TRP) have closed your eyes to the mere possibility of it, and as such even if it was happening all around you every day you wouldn't see it because you would rationalize it away just as you're doing with my anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 04:14 PM
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And you would have every right to do so. But if someone then said your sub was one where "everyone got their say," I would call them out for their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 04:27 AM
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You asked, so I'll deliver: comment I replied to Text of my reply, which was deleted by the mods: Polyamory and ethical open relationships are a thing, but step 1 is to get this redpill BS out of your brain entirely. Text of the "you're banned" PM: You have been banned from participating in /r/marriedredpill. You can still view and subscribe to /r/marriedredpill, but you won't be able to post or comment. If you have a question regarding your ban, you can contact the moderator team for /r/married…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:44 AM
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I personally believe it is entirely possible to achieve egalitarian love. I have it now in my life, and I have seen it in the lives of many people around me. I have also known many individuals who never seem to achieve egalitarian love for themselves. Maybe they lack the required skills, or lack the motivation, or maybe some outside entity has told them egalitarian love simply isn't possible. I have to imagine that if one of those individuals had a solipsistic point of view, they would assume th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:25 AM
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TRP is amoral; I think that point is even at cross purpose with the OP. I'm not talking about morality or lack thereof. Regardless of what is right and what is wrong, TRP denies that it's even possible to have a relationship with a woman that doesn't involve either being manipulated or becoming a manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:30 AM
1

Good, good, let the hate flow through you...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:14 AM
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Everyone gets to have their say Can I get a show of hands from everyone who has been banned and/or had a comment deleted by the mods of one or more TRP subs? TRP subs are NOT a place where everyone gets to have their say. I got banned from /r/marriedredpill earlier this week for posting a comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:53 AM
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I agree, it's a very specific subset of "mommy issues" that leads, indirectly, to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:51 AM
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This doesn't explain why my brother is beta as fuck Your post history makes it sound like you used to be "beta as fuck." Two years ago you were being "cucked" and physically abused by your wife. So what's the real difference between you and your brother? I would take a more nuanced view than OP. Domineering mothers (whether or not there's a father) tend to create "beta males." TRP is one way those dominated betas stop being betas. Unfortunately they replace being a victim with being a perpetrato…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:45 AM
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It's literally the top link on /r/theredpill right now. Hundreds of upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:37 AM
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there are plenty of guys with mom issues that don't turn to trp If my grandmother smoked a pack a day and lived to be 90, does that mean cigarettes don't cause heart disease and lung cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 01:33 AM
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/r/nonmonogamy is another place you could ask and get some more... uh... informed responses. Maybe /r/polyamory too, though your situation sounds like they're casual hookups as opposed to loving relationships. In my own experience, jealousy often comes from either wanting something someone else has (envy) or being afraid of losing something you already have (insecurity). So my question back to you is: are you afraid you're going to lose something when she hooks up with other guys? Like that she'…
/r/seduction23/08/16 08:31 PM
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Yes. Around 10 times that I can specifically remember right now. Youngest was 20, oldest probably 60. She was fairly creepy though. Most were 35 or younger. Other public places. University computer lab, professional conference, youth hostel kitchen, restaurant lobby, work. I'm probably a 7.5 and in my mid-30s. This happens to me less than once a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 09:47 PM
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The world is a big and complicated place. Anyone who tries to make everything seem as simple as you describe that is bound to be misguided. That being said, if you want insightful communities on Reddit, /r/DepthHub is a good one. Outside of Reddit there are some good TED talks out there.
/r/ExRedPill14/08/16 02:23 PM
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My theory is that a lot of them had abusive mothers (emotional/psychological abuse much more than physical abuse) and they are casting off the victim role in the most unhealthy way possible: by transitioning into abusers themselves. To generalize a little, they have never had role models for healthy adult relationships and stable women with healthy boundaries can see the red flags from a mile away, which amplifies the confirmation bias that leads them to conclude "AWALT." I'm not trying to minim…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/16 06:26 PM
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Some people just don't have a natural inclination to be monogamous. It sounds like you have good reason to believe you're in the naturally non-monogamous category. With that information you've got several options: Settle down in a monogamous relationship and suppress your nonmonogamous urges. Get into a monogamous relationship but pursue other sexual/romantic leads anyway (AKA cheat. Many people who attempt #1 can't cut it and end up here) Get into a monogamous relationship but don't commit long…
/r/seduction09/08/16 09:01 PM
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Dennis Reynolds
/r/seduction05/08/16 11:51 PM
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I consider myself a pragmatist. I also consider myself neither red pill nor blue pill. I believe TRP is right that our culture tells a lot of fairy-tale lies when it comes to relationships between men and women. I also believe that TRP is dead wrong in their conclusion that, given this knowledge, the appropriate course of action is to become a manipulator of women. I am polyamorous and have been so for many years. I'm in 3 LTRs of varying levels of commitment, duration, and intimacy I was raised…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 11:56 AM
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I agree for LTRs, but I got the impression OP was talking about "plates" (though he/she didn't use the term). I haven't seen anything on TRP suggesting one should fall in love with casual partners. /r/asktrp is full of posts about casual partners saying "I love you" and the advice is never to love them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 03:43 AM
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I'm going to nitpick by pointing out that polyamory, by definition, refers to multiple loving relationships. If a RP guy has several "plates" he'd be breaking all kinds of RP dogma if he let himself fall in love with any of them. Probably better to call it nonmonogamy, which is more of a catch-all term that includes anything that isn't monogamy. That being said, I totally agree with you that a relationship with such unbalanced rules is usually going to be very unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 09:22 PM
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I was never actively redpill, but when I was younger I walked up to the line before pulling back. I remember looking at the relationships around me and feeling like they revolved around conflict and deception. Lies weren't just tolerated, they were expected. I found myself lying to the women I dated and believing I was being lied to. I wasn't happy with any of this, but it seemed like it was "just the way things are." Then I started dating a woman who was the most honest and trusting person I ha…
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