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I'm pretty sure the "independent woman" trope has been a thing for a while now. But seriously breh, our job as women is to clean out the gene pool. That's how this works. Every man can't be a winner, nor should he be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:42 AM
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LOL what greediness? Shortsightedness?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:39 AM
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How old are you? And he's probably paying for it. Again, that's a 1% privilege. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-the-average-age-difference-in-a-couple/ Average age gap between men and women in relationships is 2-3 yrs until they're 40+, then it's around 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:35 AM
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Wtf, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:16 AM
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I'd like to meet all these women dying to screw and marry old men, and the vast majority of households cannot be sustained on one income. That's a privilege of the 1%. Stop acting like you're in the 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:15 AM
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Here's how I know you don't have any financial knowledge, because you'd know that the company is actually accountable to The Board of Directors, not necessarily the CEO. The CEO executes the plan, but he's replaceable if it fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:12 AM
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The age and income gap between husbands and wives is smaller than it's ever been, so nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 06:00 AM
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If women were really like that, then Lebron James would have 40 wives and no poor man would ever get married or have children. But we know that is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure men are mostly responsible and defenders of capitalism but go awf sis. By that same token, there are many losers and women are also equally expected to take the risks for the failures. Most people are not Jeff Bezos. You all use these extreme outliers as if they mean something, but they are clearly the exception to the general rule. The vast majority of businesses will fail or barely make it. So if women do not share in the profits, then they should not share in the debts. That m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:52 AM
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CEO is upper management - they do not incur personal risk to the company, why are you continuing to make this argument? They are paid a salary or have portion of the stock like everyone else. Debtors will not come after them personally. Jeff is the majority shareholder, but he only owns 17%.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:43 AM
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And they're going to do what with their money exactly? You all have this myth in your head that all these men were islands and would have been successful otherwise, but it's very rarely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:38 AM
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She's married to him, that is a legally binding contract that entitles you to a portion of all earnings unless specified otherwise. That also entitles you to the debts. CIO and CFO are employees - they have no individual risk in the company. You tried though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:36 AM
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You can't do that is my point - you have to have specified assets. You generally cannot do a blanket "whatever I earn is mine" prenup. You have to say "X assets or X liabilities will the property of "
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:32 AM
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But he hadn't started Amazon prior to his marriage - you can't retroactively protect assets that don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:29 AM
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You can't put whatever you want in a pre-nup. There are still rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:23 AM
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That highly depends - almost everything that is not gifted to you is marital property and up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:22 AM
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Your wife is an investor - not an employee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:21 AM
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This is stupid. Marriage is an investment. If she put forth $1 toward amazon back when it was worth nothing, she'd still be entitled to billlions in appreciation today. Stop thinking of wives like employees - they are co-investors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:21 AM
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Even so, that would only apply to the assets he had before the marriage. He had to get a massive loan to start amazon, even at his VP salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:16 AM
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How so? She invested in the company too. If it failed she'd be on the hook for creditors too. You're just mad because it was successful and didn't tank.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:14 AM
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even if they weren't married, if she was a co-investor, she'd still be getting the same amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:13 AM
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Didn't she also work for said hedge fund? And she went to princeton? She's definitely in his social circle and class.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:12 AM
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Only for the stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:10 AM
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CIO and CEO are employees. She's an investor - end of story. If she owned 50% of amazon back when it was worth a $1, then she would still be entitled to 50% today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:09 AM
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They met when they were both at a hedgefund. I doubt either of them knew they would end up billionaires at that point. And Mackensie went to princeton, this is so insulting to equate her to a heroin addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:09 AM
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Exactly - she's an investor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:08 AM
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she's an investor. Do you work at all the companies you own stock in or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:08 AM
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It's not a penalty - she has just as much ownership as he does, she invested as well. If she put forth $1 towards amazon 25 years ago and it appreciated to billions of dollars it would be the same scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:07 AM
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Also, the debts, which everyone seems to forget. Amazon could have failed and it would have come out of her pocket too. This is actually the more common scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:05 AM
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This whole argument is stupid because since she was there from the inception of amazon, if she had put a dollar forth of her own money as investor then she would still be entitled to just as much even if they weren't married, and even if she never worked a day in the company.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:05 AM
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She absolutely did. They were both at a hedge fund - she quit and worked back office for amazon, in addition to getting a partial loan from her parents. This was really a joint effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:40 PM
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I’m arguing that you have no idea whether she “deserves it” or not. What I find interesting is you all always ignore the other part of the equation where she’s on the hook for debts too. She takes on just as much risk being married as she would reward. That’s how marriage works. She also can’t be forced to testify against you. Any stock in their marriage owned between the two of them is joint property.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:31 PM
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How do you know that? They were both accompllished hedge fund managers and she went to Princeton - she was in no way broke before marrying Jeff.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:56 AM
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No I'm not - that's actually what happens and how the marriage laws are written. All debts and assets accumulated during the marriage are legally joint property.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 07:21 AM
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God knows if any of you losers had even put a $1 toward Amazon 25 years ago, you'd be trying to cash out billions. And you'd be patting yourselves on the back for being great investors with amazing foresight and "forward thinking vison" and whatever else corporate buzz words that make you lames feel important. Funny how it never looks the same because a vagina did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:52 AM
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Actually you don't know that. She was very accomplished in her own right - they met as coworkers at a hedge fund and she went to princeton. She's not some bimbo he met at a bar, you have no idea how much she may or may not have contributed to the strategic success of Amazon; especially early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:50 AM
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Why wouldn't it be? It was all accumulated during the marriage. If Amazon had tanked, she'd be on the hook for the debts too. That's how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:41 AM
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You keep saying "any bimbo" when that could not be further from the truth. They met as coworkers at a hedge fund, and she went to Princeton. She's plenty smart and accomplished in her own right; you have no idea how much she may have contributed strategically to Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:36 AM
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It's not like she was some bimbo scrub either; they were coworkers at a hedge fund and she went to princeton. You actually have no idea how much she may have contributed strategically to the success of amazon, especially early on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:33 AM
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How do you figure she only put in 10-20%? There's a thing called passive income. You own stocks. I'm sure you don't work at all the companies you own stocks at. If at any point, they were at a loss or the business was dissolved and the creditors came calling, she would also be responsible for 50% of the debt. No one ever talks about that part, but that is actually way more common than a situation like Amazon. It happened to my mom. She had to pay my stepdads creditors after they divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 06:20 AM
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Marriage is a legally binding agreement, just like any other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:18 AM
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And you could have invested in netspace instead of Microsoft. What difference does it make? She invested in a good opportunity and got lucky. This is literally how it works. I don’t get why you all act like someone’s taking something from you, when you know good in well you’d expect a large payout if you invested in a business early and it grew.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:14 AM
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50% is in no way high if that’s your initial contribution. If I bought 50% of Coca Cola shares 60 years ago for pennies it would be worth billions today, even if I didn’t do shit. That’s how investing works, you take a risk with the hopes your investment grows. If amazon had tanked she’d also have to pay half his debts. They both got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:09 AM
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She put in a lot more than that, but in theory yes. People bought a ton of Coca Cola shares back in the day for cents and pennies and now it’s worth billions. I don’t see how this is all that different
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 05:03 AM
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Of course luck is a factor. The vast majority of businesses will never be anywhere near amazon. But Luck was also a factor for Jeff Bezos too, he doesn’t exist in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:58 AM
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are You trying to argue she’s not entitled to his salary? Because that’s the only way your argument makes any sense. Because if they’re married they don’t have to have a second business arrangement, marriage makes everything joint property. If they weren’t married then they would have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:56 AM
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Isn’t making a smart investment “success”? That’s how it works right? You invest in a startup and hope it grows. That’s how most of these guys make their money. They buy in early. Marriage is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:51 AM
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I definitely understand how stock works. Even if it was private, If a friend gave you money to start your business in exchange for 50% owenership - like in a marriage - he’d be entitled to just as much as she is. Everything in a marriage is joint property so even if he has all the shares it’s still half hers. Also she worked the whole back office when amazon wasn’t even profitable. Of course she deserves half. Any initial investor would. She doesn’t legally have her name on it but if you’re marr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:46 AM
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Why not? She invested both. And anything in a marriage is joint property.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:43 AM
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No it’s because she’s a majority stakeholder given that they’re married and she invested in it financially early. Do you have to physically work at all the companies you buy stock from? Of course not. You invest in a business and watch it grow. Of course she did more than that, but even if she didn’t she’d still be entitled to just as much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:42 AM
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I mean she technically has all of Jeff’s stake in the company given that she’s an initial investor. She just bought in back when amazon wasn’t worth anything. Now it’s worth billions, she deserves a payout of her share. If this were man you’d just call him a smart investor and move on, but now you’re trying to make arguments like she doesn’t deserve it, whcich is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:36 AM
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He already said he couldn’t. And actually he got a huge loan from his parents. So nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:32 AM
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She’s an initial investor. If you bought half of Amazon’s stock at 1 cents 25 years ago then you’d be entitled to the billion dollar growth too. That’s how it works, marriage is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:31 AM
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But if she was an initial investor wouldn’t she still be entitled? If she bought shares in amazon early then she’d be worth the same amount of money. So on basic financial principle she’s entitled to half.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:30 AM
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She’d be a majority shareholder, right? If they were married when the company was founded than her funds went into starting the business and she’d deserve a payout. She also quit her job to work the entire back office at amazon before it was profitable. I mean if this was two men you wouldn’t even be questioning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:29 AM
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A wife is a majority investor. This isn’t some chick who swooped in when he was already rich. She helped him found the company and is an initial investor. I can see you guys are hella sexist because if a man had put in that kind of work and sacrifice you’d expect Jeff not to be disloyal trash ands pay him accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:27 AM
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But isn’t that how most investors operate? If they weren’t married and it was just his friend helping him get the company off the ground and sacrificing his career, you’d be singing a diffeeent tune. She clearly deserves a large payout from being a primary initial investor and majority shareholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/19 04:25 AM
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There’s no way to tell if they were okay with it. I’m pretty sure he just did it and those women just valued their jobs more than taking down someone like Donald Trump in which they are infinitely outmatched. The money doesn’t make it okay, the money and power just shields the men from the consequence of their actions. Big difference. If you don’t get that, then you don’t get #metoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 02:09 AM
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You all seem to live under this delusion that attractive men have all these rights and privileges they don’t. Everytime I hear this I keep thinking it’s about as accurate as Donald Trump thinking he can just grab chicks by the pussy becusse he’s famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 11:01 PM
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Only the fringe groups try and claim no biological difference. Libfems just think the definition of woman should be expanded to include masculine traits. ERA: And Andrew Sullivan is a hack.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:57 PM
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Their care for their daughters is negligible is my point. Their daughters don’t get special rights that are restricted from all women. They’re treated like slightly more valuable property, which still doesn’t particularly help women at all as it’s all still based on reliance and will of the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:54 PM
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Is claiming biologically inclined psychological differences between men and women controversial? Only to weird delusional transactivists. Do you agree with the author that men are seeking truth in the manosphere due to the deceptiveness of women and constraints of mainstream dialog? Oh please. This was bound to happen anyways. Men have been hating on and bullying women since there have been people. The difference is they’ve been driven to the fringes of society rather than accepted as mainstream…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:49 PM
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Will y’all stop this “attractive men can be rapists” lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:46 PM
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Oh, we’ve only BEGUN to tell you what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:45 PM
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Men who have daughters don’t substantially care more about the female experience at all, I don’t know where you’re getting that. Plenty of fathers have sold their daughters off for a sack of beans.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:45 PM
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Bullshit - men have been telling women about what femininity is since forever. And y’all DEFINITELY have no idea what you’re talking about but it’s sure never stopped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:44 PM
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I feel there is a marked difference between being capable of extreme violence and actually doing it. There are plenty of primates and cultures where the males exist relatively peacefully unless confronted by a real threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 10:42 PM
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We choose to be a mother to your kids. That’s a privilege, not a right. And we take far and above the higher risk. People still die during childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 03:22 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:19 PM
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Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:47 AM
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Women suffer higher opportunity cost. You get us in our childbearing years. That’s irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 05:42 AM
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I just told you three scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:40 PM
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I fail to see why you’re mad at who other women sleep with. If they’re single and not lying to anybody, there’s no problem other than the one you’re inventing to feel superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:40 PM
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I mean you are also arguing that it’s frustrating to communicate with “dumb sluts”. Imagine telling a single idiot the same thing for 20 years. I didn’t say it’s his fault, I’m just saying generally there are a ton of warning signs they don’t take seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:39 PM
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I’m just asking who at you to treat other people contemptuously for harmlessly living their own life? It’s entitled AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:37 PM
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Yes? A lot of them ending up fucking their personal trainers or dog walkers, etc. Basically, any young men in close proximity. The bar flies meet guys there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:35 PM
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Right, which is a problem because the “women’s roles” are often BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:32 PM
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Women take infinitely more risk than men do when it comes to sex and general receive a lot less pleasure. Of course you pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:31 PM
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So my post is confirmed. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:29 PM
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Again, your opinion on what a “good” woman is. It’s their vagina, and women are allowed to have a sex drive. You’re just wanting to control women’s sexuality - but it’s not your choice or your business. Not everyone is a prude like you - go find women who are into your loifesfyle and stop policing pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:28 PM
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I love how men just assume that the reason men act like dumbasses in a relationship is because women don’t communicate - uh, no. Plenty of times women are direct AF and y’all just don’t want to hear it. For one thing, I don’t know how many times I have to tell some fools I’m not even interested in them at all to get the picture. Men routinely ignore what women say. Or you tell them shit hurts and they don’t take it seriously. They’re lazy at sex in general and stop doing things you’ve consistent…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:26 PM
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Most guys started watching porn far before they were even old enough to consider having real sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 07:22 PM
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K - that’s what YOU want. If you don’t like dumb sluts, (who may not even be as dumb or slutty as you think they are), then don’t waste too much time with them. Leave them to the hot dumb guys, who don’t mind them. Again, I don’t know why you feel it’s your job to judge them for something that ultimately none of your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:17 PM
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.... women communicate all the time. Y’all just dissmiss it and call it “nagging”. You love to play blind, deaf, and dumb when it’s inconvenient for you then pretend you had no idea. Just look at this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:13 PM
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Well, no, they asked millennial women and the general consensus was: Fear of STDs/unwanted Pregnancy More millennials live at home than ever - making it harder to have sex. Performance Anxiety Fear of being used/low emotional investment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:37 PM
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It’s just a consistent way men tend to be oblivious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:58 PM
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The girls who are wildly out of your league want Chad, and rather than accepting the reality of where you are on the looks scale, and find an appropriate partner, you go home and play pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:56 PM
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That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:54 PM
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I don’t know how we’re supposed to know ahead of time a man consistently sucks in bed. It’s a thing you find out when it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:52 PM
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That’s millennial women. Older women it’s different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:54 AM
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That doesn’t mean their sex drive is dead, they probably just don’t want to fuck their husbands for whatever reason. Divorced women still want sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:36 AM
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Yeah Jenna Jameson said porn actors actually suck at sex lol. But again, all this proves is that porn caters to men almost exclusively and gives them dumb standards about women’s sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:32 AM
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Preach. Also, I’m tired of all the overt racism in porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:30 AM
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I mean, I guess breh. Porn really can’t replace human contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:29 AM
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Well.... I bet they’d be down for sex though. I think as women get older and have their own they care less about looking for a provider and may just enjoy sex for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:27 AM
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There’s literally an entire industry that caters solely to male sexual desires. Women weren’t even really allowed to openly HAVE sexual desires until the past 20 years. Sex has always been men controlling the media to dictate sex to women. Hence the CONSISTENTLY low sexual satisfaction women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:25 AM
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There’s a difference between being bad and just being lazy and selfish. Generally by the time cheating happens she’s probably given up hope because men tend not notice when the marriage is burning down until it’s ashes and rubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:23 AM
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Actually help raise said children, for one. Don’t make your wife do all the emotional and household labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:21 AM
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Preach. They’re all sad that they can’t bully women into putting up with their sloppy, emotionally stunted, childish bullshit like their grandmothers did.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:19 AM
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I regret this click.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:17 AM
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I mean, this entire pillsphere is ugly and awkward men hamstering that the only reason they strike out with women is because they’re not “alpha” enough. Nah, bruh, you’re just ugly. Jason Momoa could wear a pink tutu and cry in front of me, and I’d still climb him like a tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:16 AM
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LMFAO. Got’em.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:12 AM
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Right, but why does that make you mad? Some people are dumb. You don’t have to deal with them if they aren’t your cup of tea, they’re usual fairly harmless. There’s a lot of dumb ass hot guys too but I don’t think they should be abused and destroyed. Y’alls Hatred and obesssion with “humbling” sluts is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:11 AM
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The problem is the men who spend more hours watching porn then in pursuit of real women. Of course you won’t have as much success, and when you do you’ll be bad at it and not get call backs because you spent more time fapping then developing sexual or social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:05 AM
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Well if you never go outside because you’re spending all your evenings fapping and redditing then you’ll never get to find that marathon sex GF, will ya bud?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:02 AM
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I swear you all have these Chads hyped up in your head more than women do. That’s applicable to like 1% attractive level people. They play by different rules. The vast majority of guys are lying or exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 04:01 AM
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Right, so at what age do men suddenly develop realistic tastes? And we all have to suffer through your bumbling pornified sex expectations until then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:57 AM
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I’m just saying that most women don’t think porn actors are actually good lovers, so there’s nothing to worry about from us watching it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 01:42 AM
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I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:32 AM
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LMFAO. It’s quite fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:28 AM
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Right, because men never lie or exaggerate about their sexual experiences 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:27 AM
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I would love to know this. Porn always has some fucked up abuse aspect to it - it’s like they don’t want women to enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:26 AM
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Bihhhhh.... I screamed.🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:21 AM
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Women do experience negative effects because most pornsex is not all that enjoyable for women, at least not on a regular basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:19 AM
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Very few male pornstars actually look good in bed to me. It mostly looks like it’s for show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:18 AM
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Lol if masturbating to other guys fuck the girls you wish you could is the pinnacle of your existence, I guess boo. Seems like some weird cuckold nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:16 AM
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LOL. You couldn’t be female then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 12:12 AM
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dudes know what a equal deal is on average. It seems women don't know what a equal deal is because they don't know direct; they only understand indirect. I’m telling you, no they don’t. Most men think porn sex is real. Like most women are just born able to do anal on gigantic cocks. They have no idea that these women have to prep and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:10 PM
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Okay. Outlaw Romance books for women then! Not even remotely the same. I don’t remember any female romance books being titled “male sluts get abused” or some other dehumanizing bullshit. Bullshit. Most men stop with ow. Fuck that shit. Women, their worst experience is terrible sex. Fuck that shitty mindset that thinks criminal rape is some how on par or even in the same existence when discussing sex inside a relationship or ONS. Disingenuous as fuck, Szymmy. Lies. I can definitely attest that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:09 PM
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Didn’t you say women were just holes?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:06 PM
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I mean you can’t argue that there is any necessity to getting the kind of extensive plastic surgery these chicks get to please their audience. And their bodies take a lot of abuse, which is why the vast majority don’t last long in the industry. And almost all of them say their sex life off camera is nothing like their on camera sex. It’s performance art for men that ultimately sets an insane standard most women have no desire to meet but men feel increasingly entitled to. Porn sex sucks for most…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 10:05 PM
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I know Lots of divorced women don’t want to deal with men their age. They’d just prefer a low maintenance relationship with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:58 PM
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The Boy Scouts opened up bc they lost a lot of money after the whole pedophile counselor scandal - that was a business decision. The Girl Scouts were actually pissed bc it cuts into their revenue and they are infinitely more popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:35 PM
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Yeah, but athletes in general are entitled AF. And I’ve seen way too much questionable behavior from them for me to jump on the “theyre being victimized by the system” bandwagon. Running trains has consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:26 PM
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I’m not sure I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 09:24 PM
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You literally have an entire industry designed to please men sexually at the expense of women and you’re complaining still?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:25 PM
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Lesbian bed death is kind of different from what I’m talking about. It’s less about the frequency, and more about the quality. Here’s a citation: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/stress-and-sex/201510/the-orgasm-gap-simple-truth-sexual-solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:23 PM
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Why, so you could call us sloppy whores unworthy of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:15 PM
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Well maybe that’s the solution - let’s start a war! J/k. But seriously though, I think the geeks of today have just gotten too soft and doughy in the middle. I’m willing to be that’s predominately their problem. Women are just inherently more attracted to men out there doing things and leading interesting lives, even if it’s something as messed up as war.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:13 PM
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Why are you certain you’d be a miserable beta? There are actually a lot of betas with happy marriages. Not having kids means you can date older women too, who are more likely to be sensitive to your needs. And chances are an older woman has her own money and doesn’t need a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:08 PM
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Lol I mean... I’m just saying he might have left some random kids in Europe or Vietnam.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:05 PM
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Yeah, no. Why would I want to “step my game up” for mediocre to terrible male-centric sex? What will happen is the attractive guys and guys who are good in bed will just be in ever increasing demand and the rest of you will be fapping away in the dark, wondering why your life has no meaning. Probably explains why female infidelity is on the rise. If your man won’t satisfy you because he’s too busy looking at porn, then might as well fuck some “chads”.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:03 PM
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I don’t see it being as pronounced in women, at least not when it comes to body standards, because porn actor men are not all amazing physically and there is a wide range of dick sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 07:00 PM
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Okay buddy. 👍🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:55 PM
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I mean your grandpa did it. And his father before him. A lot of geeks have had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:50 PM
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Erectile dysfunction is increasing with men, I don’t know how that has anything to do with women being “hot enough”. I mean, if all you see women as is holes than you’re probably the exact kind of guy who uses an endless supply of porn and can’t pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:49 PM
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Good that men are consistently garbage in bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:47 PM
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They’re not doing a very good job because 50% report dissatisfaction with their sex life https://www.bustle.com/p/why-dont-i-enjoy-sex-a-new-study-shows-that-the-orgasm-gap-is-real-af-for-millennial-women-9597905 Whack sex isn’t going to alpha widow anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:45 PM
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Most of us aren’t having sex period, and of those that are, about 50% aren’t happy with it. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/08/why-young-americans-having-less-sex-216953
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:43 PM
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You need to provide some links to support because every single study says young women are having less sex than ever. https://www.newsweek.com/millennial-virginity-sex-intimacy-university-college-london-next-steps-project-912283
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:41 PM
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You need to provide some links to support because every single study says young women are having less sex than ever. https://www.newsweek.com/millennial-virginity-sex-intimacy-university-college-london-next-steps-project-912283
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:40 PM
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It’s hard for me to give a fuck about black men getting screwed over by white girls, tbh. Not my fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:35 PM
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Don’t dress like a twink. Ask them to dress you like a handsome straight guy. They’ll know the difference. But for the record, a lot of male grooming trends start in the gay community. Seems men have impossibly high body standards even for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:34 PM
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I’ve heard graphic details people would definitely be embarrasss by. Throwing up during blow jobs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:09 PM
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Men talk too much. I’ve heard guys start revealing intimate parts of their relationship to strangers once they break up and it’s ugly. It’s so much easier to have a guy who won’t tell everybody what you’re like in bed once he’s mad at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:08 PM
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Can confirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:07 PM
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Also because it’s disrespectduo to your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:07 PM
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Does porn make you lesss satisfies with real women? Does that make your relationship worthless?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:06 PM
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Hey you. Here’s the reality. You have to look sexy. If you look sexy to women, they’ll want to have sex with you, simple as. You look sexy by hitting the gym and getting as cut as you can, staying consistently groomed, tan if you have to, and buying tailored clothes that fit. Developing a style and aesthetic. A lot of guys just don’t put in the effort to be sexy. Women respect effort. Honestly watch queer eye or ask a gay friend for grooming tips. Once you have the look, then just try and sound …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 06:02 PM
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This is so true but they won’t accept it. Men are the ones who’s desireability rapidly declines with age. Starting with losing their hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:58 PM
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You mean America? Because that shit is absolutely normal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:55 PM
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What’s hilarious to me is how you’re all scared of alpha widowed chicks not wanting you while also mass consuming porn featuring girls who are heavily augmented and thinking women should be okay with that and that it doesn’t effect your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:55 PM
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Women who get rejected by men get sole cats and mind their business. Men who get rejected by women shoot up malls. Soooo.... which sex is more pressed over the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:53 PM
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I don’t live in the hood, but thanks for playing. And it’s not just black men either. I used to have to commute past a rich white catholic all boys school and those boys were just as disgusting in the things they said. Some of them even threw frozen eggs at me and my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 05:51 PM
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LOL keep dreaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:16 PM
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Y’all wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:25 PM
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You’d love to think we’re replaceable because it makes you feel better, but we’re the only ones who can keep the species going. Men are by far the more replaceable gender. And unless these weirdos plan to never go outside, they’re going to have to learn how to interact with real women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:24 PM
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They’re both rape, but different kinds of rape. And I don’t think the details are pointless. A serial premeditated rapist is a whole other level of evil than a stupid drunk asshole at a frat party.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:23 PM
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It seems like the men who would be doing this are the ones women don’t want to fuck that much anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:33 PM
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The question is, to what extent do women care? Will these guys just die alone fapping to pass the time of their miserable existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:47 PM
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There’s too many examples of this not being the case in the legal system to declare that slut shaming as a defense tactic is over. Starting with the cops trying to build the case for the prosecution. https://www.newsweek.com/police-slut-shame-rape-sex-assault-nypd-district-attorney-investigation-688796
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:32 PM
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They watch a lot of porn and wonder why they’re constantly depressed and their life has no meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:28 PM
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You don’t think there is any distinction between a premeditated rapist and an opportunistic rapist? Because I think there is a large one, but we don’t have laws to address that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:26 PM
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No, I just wholeheartedly disagree that there is such a thing as rape prevention by acquiescing to men’s sexual desires. In places where prostitution is legal, there is still rape and sex trafficking is actually worse. Why? Men feel emboldened and entitled to women’s bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:18 PM
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That’s a bold faced lie, defense teams have been and continue to do that to this day. The only argument to be made is perhaps it’s less effective in SOME places, but that’s hardly consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:17 PM
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Why can’t there be legal differences between premeditated rape and other forms of rape? Just because it’s classified solely as general intent now doesn’t mean it has to be. Quite frankly, there are definitely guys who rape with specific intent and there definitely needs to be a legal response specific to those kinds of predators, vs opportunistic rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:16 PM
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A bunch of these were repealed and I still don’t believe these are descriptive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:12 PM
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None of your suggestions would prevent rape. Enabling men’s rape fantasies only emboldens them. The only deterrent is punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:03 PM
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Yes, but even a rape kit doesn’t prove rape. It just proves sex, it doesn’t particularly indicate whether it was consensual or not. Therefore the victim and prosecution have to prove there was no consent based on circumstantial evidence. The defense uses the same tactic, like discussing what the victims were wearing, dragging out their sexual history, etc. Unless there is an independent eye witness to the rape, serious physical injury, or a videotape, most rapes have to be proved based on circum…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:01 PM
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Honestly men would never win that fight because women can go a lot longer without sex than the reverse. You can’t make demands on a product no one wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:14 PM
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Y’all are arguing sexual harassment doesn’t exist. I mean if she’s repeatedly badgering him then sure that is also sexual harassment. The question is if most men would care or feel threatened enough to report.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:11 PM
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I mean if he’s passed out and she forces herself on him, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:08 PM
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Live and in color.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:07 PM
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Sexual activity among millennials is also at an all time low, and guys are losing their collective shit over that and forming all these little woman hating social clubs. Seems like they’d be better off finding a wife but they’re all under the delusion that TRP can make them into a “Chad”. Jordan Peterson is basically making a killing right now, telling these twerps the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 03:00 PM
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Shole’ Don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:57 PM
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The problem is them not gaining consent for their “desires”. There are just as many guys who would see a porn like that and think it must be okay to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:54 PM
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Um, no I’m arguing men are responsible for their actions regardless of what the woman’s doing. Every other crime works like that. You can’t steal someone’s purse then justify your actions because you or the other person was drunk, you’re still a theif.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:46 PM
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Of course they would lie, but I also believe these men truly thought these encounters were consensual. Rapists are sick in the head, they don’t respect the social cues and circumstances a reasonable man would. To cite an extreme example, they’ve interviewed pedophiles who thought small children doing fairly innocuous things was proof the child was coming on to them. I believe one guy saw a two year old girl lift her dress up over her head and took that to mean she was interested sexually. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:42 PM
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These nuances already exist. Every state has very detailed laws on what constitutes rape, sexual assault, sexual harrasment, indecent exposure, etc. That not everyone cares to be precise when talking about it isn't the fault of the legal system. Sexual assault is a “catch all term” too - that could mean anything from an unwanted kiss by someone you know to being forcefully groped or disrobed by a stranger. It also doesn’t describe intent. What Brett Kavanaugh did to Blasey Ford was clearly assau…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:36 PM
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I don’t think “unilateral” support is accurate. The largest barrier woukd be the victim would have to prove intent, and prove that the sexual assault actually happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 02:02 PM
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Why are they harassing that specific girl though? It’s clearly targeted harassment. If they were screaming at everyone that would be one thing, but they’re not. And again, the law is supposed to be a deterrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:58 PM
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Women are not responsible for your behavior even though you all so desperately want to make it so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:55 PM
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Right, but trying to prove a rape is significantly more difficult than trying to prove assault. In Ireland, Apparently wearing lacy panties that day is enough to get your rape case thrown out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:50 PM
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The problem with sex crimes is there is rarely direct physical evidence - it usually has to be gleaned based on circumstantial evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:49 PM
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See, this is the mentality that gets y’all fucked up. Rapists somehow are always “Assuming” their victims want it too. Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby has Russell Simmons all think their encounters were consensual. Which is why you need affirmative consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:48 PM
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Interesting how men always jump to the “hysteria” defense whenever we talk about sexual violence, as if it’s not a real and continuous threat. No one needs to be “convinced” because it’s a shared lived experience among far too many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:45 PM
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Isn’t this the hypothetical you TERPS always bring up to weasel out of responsibility? The “what if I’m drunk too” scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:42 PM
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I’m just saying the vast majority of the engineers I know are not actually handsome or rich at all. That’s why I’m confused why y’all think this is hypergamy. And you all kill me with your ever shifting definition of hypergamy. It’s like you think women are never supposed to judge you on anything, which is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:36 PM
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In what world are most engineers rich? In what world are they handsome? Engineers seem like the beats to me - the alpha douche bros are all like “marketing managers”, “Finance” or consulting. The ones with trust funds are “entrepreneurs”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:22 AM
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/065/059/tumblr_l6v4wsHnay1qd7pj1o1_400.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 07:10 AM
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But a lot of “proof” in court is circumstantial evidence and lack of plausible deniability. Most crimes don’t have a lot of direct evidence. Being found in the possession of goods that have been reported stolen is often enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:56 AM
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Yeah this is kind of the exact scenario I’m talking about. Everything is categorized as “assault” but that’s not very fair or descriptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:19 AM
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Doing my thangy-thang.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:18 AM
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Matt Damon is an idiot who talked out of turn and seemed to be concerned more about “redemption” for sexual predators than the actual punishment. Ain’t nobody trying to hear all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:17 AM
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Restrictions on free speech. We do have some. You can’t yell “Fire!” In a crowded theater, you usually have to get permits in order to stage a protest, if you repeatedly call someone you can served a restraining order, etc. I think it’s reasonable to fine guys who harass women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:41 AM
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That’s what you have to do with theft right? You have to be able to explain how you knew you had consent to take something that wasn’t yours. If you just suddenly have your neighbor’s flat screen TV in your house but can’t explain how it got there or why you thought you could take it, you’re going to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:34 AM
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It doesn’t change the burden of proof but it does create additional responsibility. It’s kind of like a Good Samaritan law or a theft by omission law. In most cities, if you find over a certain amount of money you have to report it otherwise you can be prosecuted. You have to show you made a reasonable effort to find the rightful owner or report it to police.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:31 AM
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The problem is without restrictions I’ve literally been catcalled and harassed and followed hundreds of times. Every single guy thinks he’s individually “justified”, but all the guys en masse has a crazy net effect and can make normal women feel like they’re walking in a war zone everytime they go outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:29 AM
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The prosecutor has to prove that the man drunkenly has sex with the girl. The man doesn’t have to prove shit lol I’m more specifically talking about cases where it’s provable that sex occurred, but it’s not clear if it was consensual. If you can’t prove sex even occurred then you’d have to drop the charge down to like a simple assault or something. It’s fine if you don’t believe in free speech. I mean it’s not fine but it’s not surprising. Lots of leftists don’t. Enacting such a law would get lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:25 AM
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The victim would still have the burden of proof - so while it potentially could be used to falsely accuse someone, they’d have to still have to have some semblance of evidence. Some combination of a guy displaying that he obtained reasonable proof of consent and the woman would have to reasonably prove consent was withdrawn or never given. Plus wouldn’t it protect men who made a mistake from being lumped in with the serial predators?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:19 AM
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Tell a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:12 AM
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Can you give me an example of what requirements would need to be met for someone to be persecuted under your new law? Using the example of the premeditated rapist vs the drunk guy in my OP - I think the first guy would get prosecuted under normal rape laws. I think in the second case, the victim would have to prove that he did not do reasonable due diligence to gain consent. Meaning, Can he describe to a jury how he checked she was conscious? Did she give explicit verbal consent? Did she recipro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:08 AM
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By popular demand. I’m a celebrity in these e-streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:52 AM
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Getting my life together!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 04:47 AM
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Men force women to do shit all the time. It’s the condition of being female. I could care less whether they like being forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:24 PM
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Any man Looking for easily manipulated targets is predatory and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:20 PM
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If you get drunk and throw yourself at some stranger and he accepts your advances, you are 100% at fault. If you agree to go to a guy's place and he makes advances towards you and you don't say no because you're scared of a backlash, it is your fault for being alone with him in the first place. If you go out looking to coerce some girl who’s too drunk to consent you are 100% a rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:16 PM
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but the idea that most rapists are intimate partners is lunacy, only an idiot who thinks women don't lie because they are made of sugar and spice would believe that. You are colossally misinformed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:15 PM
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Generally. Reformed hoes don’t want their past held against them forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:03 PM
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This is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:01 PM
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Sometimes guys fall for less than perfect women. I’m just illustrating when that’s a good idea and when that’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 02:01 PM
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Never save a male hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:59 PM
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Saved AKA “Salvaged”. I.e., Can they be made into good partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:58 PM
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I’ve actually never met this type!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 01:54 PM
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I’ll just say - in my experience the women who sleep around because they genuinely like sad and have little to no Hangups are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 06:00 AM
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Ah, a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:56 AM
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Oh shit - that reminds me. Former fat girl hoes are a thing too. Adding it to my list.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:43 AM
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Absolutely. Never underestimate the “what if” factor. Or - women who discover their sexuality late and then can’t control it or realize they want something different. Jessica Simpson was a virgin until marriage and then allegedly had some wild threesome with Johnny Knoxville.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:39 AM
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Low N count doesn’t mean they’re less likely to cheat unless they are ugly. I think this is a more nuanced and realistic view of female sexuality - a lot of these women go on to make great wives and mothers. You might not even guess some of the “great” wives you know used to be one of these kinds of hoe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:36 AM
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Guys think a high N count automatically makes a woman prone to cheating - but I don’t think it’s really the N count so much as the reason. Low N count women are no guarantee to be faithful either maybe in some other post I’ll explain why low N count women might be prone to cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:34 AM
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She doesn’t sound like she’s ready at all for a healthy relationship. Personally, I wouldn’t bother with her. I would tell her you only want to be friends until she gets her shit together. Slowly make yourself less available. Don’t get sucked into a back and forth dramatic dynamic. You have to have a frame of steel with girls like that. No offense, but you don’t sound like you do and you’ll probably get hurt. Anyways I made another post about hoes. Read it and see if she fits any of these archet…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:27 AM
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I think 5/7 are saveable if you catch them at them at the right time in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:20 AM
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I’m not a dude - but sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 05:10 AM
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Because there is no “what if” factor with reformed hoes. They know what’s out there because they experienced it all and they got burned or just decided to do the work on themselves to have more healthy relationships. As far as the ethics, women become hoes for different reasons. There’s women who become hoes because they have poor boundaries and low self esteem or have a bad background. These women can usually be saved if you treat them nicely. I’d consider Cardi B a reformed hoe. Then there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 04:48 AM
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Not all women are the same. A lot of times women with crazy backgrounds crave a sense of normalcy. Just watch out for any self sabotaging behaviors. If she has a tendency to do a lot of self sabotaging I’d consider it a red flag that she’s not quite done with her recovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 03:18 AM
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Here we go. https://i.imgur.com/3t63g.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 03:13 AM
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Reformed hoes are actually the best partners. Why do you think Jesus rolled with so many? But seriously tho, women who do the work to better themselves rarely want to go back to the way they were before. It usually is very difficult for people to change so if they actually put effort in, you know the way they were living before was pretty probably making them feel pretty bad. It sounds like she didn’t have good experiences. She’s also going to have a more thorough understanding of her own trigge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/18 03:09 AM
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Maybe we shouldn’t build it up so much. For men or for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 07:05 PM
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Yeah - that may be it. A lot of my Indian friends born in the US are like this too. Some of them were buck wild in college. But they kind of have to lie even if their sexual history isn’t that long otherwise they would have a hard time getting married off by their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:12 PM
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I mean it’s like being in a union making a living wage and then an illegal comes in and does your job for two candy bars and a cerveza. And also, it comes across like she doesn’t respect herself. Sluts pressure women to lower their standards. But I still think men slut shame quite a bit - especially when it comes to rape and assault. Men have a lot of mental gymnastics they do to always place blame on “looseness” of any particular woman. Not to mention, a lot of men don’t even seem to understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:08 PM
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I agree with poppy about sexuality. But now I’m thinking it may be because we’re both black and black people are generally very religious and black men are pretty vicious about women who are perceived as “hoes”. It’s best to lie to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:40 PM
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How do you think I learned about the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:33 PM
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If you all weren’t so retarded and insecure about female sexuality we wouldn’t have to be this way. Blame yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:31 PM
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Why do you think women gravitate toward the top 20% of men as TRP so often claims?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:29 PM
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I don’t see what that has to do with what I wrote. If you want to live in a society with a bunch of sociopaths and that men are unable to act in way that isnt predatory that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 07:02 AM
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This might have to be a separate post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 05:11 AM
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I mean - the guys who are amazing in bed aren’t always relationship material- and the guys who are relationship material aren’t always good in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 05:11 AM
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You gotta come at her aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 05:03 AM
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Just find an angry ass bitch who likes to fight and then purposefully piss her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:06 AM
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I’d make them be honest and respectful of women’s boundaries. Maybe a little more emotional about the act and have real consideration of what the other person is experiencing. Something that should really go without saying and shouldn’t be a fantasy. I have a problem with how predatory and forcible male sexuality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:15 AM
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OMG... Porn is definitely NOT the place to do research on female sexuality; it’s a facimile of what men think and want female sexuality to be. I really don’t know how you missed that in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:13 AM
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That’d be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:01 AM
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A lot of men have sex at you and not with you and can’t tskd instruction. They really think they’re killing it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:00 AM
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It’s so hard to explain to men how unsatisfying sex with most of them is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 01:23 AM
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This post might have the most retarded group of commenters I’ve seen in PPD thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:12 AM
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These two statements contradict each other. She has to be slutty enough to be good in bed but not so slutty that’s shes not girlfriend material? Pick a fucking struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:09 AM
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Make it more financially feasible to have children. Millenials aren’t having them because we can’t afford them. Teach men to be more desirable husband and fathers. Most Women don’t want to be single moms and if all the men are shit they’ll probably skip having kids. More Maternity/ Paternity leave Increased emphasis on extended family to help in child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:06 AM
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My biggest complaint is that Porn culture has given men stupid and selfish ideas about sex. Newsflash jackasses, that shit isn’t real.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 12:00 AM
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That's another way parents lie to kids - by telling them the world is the way they want it to be, not the way it is. All those grown-ups in the early 90s wanted casual sex to be empowering for girls, and as emotional for girls as it often is for boys (i.e. not very emotional). But that isn't how I was. And it's not how a LOT of young girls are. Most, I would say. This has been my biggest gripe with the feminist movement. Why do we set men’s feelings about sex as the sexual standard and try to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 11:54 PM
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I think to some extent, my parents were intentionally lying to protect me. They tried to make me scared of men so I'd avoid them. And they tried to make me frumpy so men would avoid me. If I believed all that shit today, I'd probably be foreveralone, so I'm not sure they really thought that one through. My parents did this exact same thing too - but they were teen parents so I think they were scared I’d get knocked up 18 like my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 11:44 PM
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They’re lying. Men slut shame the most. Especially sexually predatory men who want to ruin a woman’s credibility to speak out against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 11:42 PM
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I agree with this. Losing my virginity was a big fucking let down. I’m thinking afterwards - I waited all this time for this???
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 11:37 PM
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Oh honey - I have opinions for days on this. Yes, the messages both men and women got about sex and relationships are terrible. Men don’t like slutty girls and will turn their nose at them for good girls (Ha!) That virginity is a woman’s greatest value Men will do anything to talk you into sex (although I have found this one to be personally true). Women are mostly to blame for sexual assault Abstinence education -there were a lot of things about my body The idea that sex is something men do to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 11:36 PM
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It’s a Better option than being slaves to their vices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 03:05 PM
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If they’re failing because they’re dumb,that’s one thing. If they’re failing because society tells them to put all their hopes, dreams, and self esteem on a man or baby then they are just wasting potential because of destructive messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:38 PM
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I’ve read it, it’s trash. Also, since that book is damn near 25 years old at this point - men in the dating game are familiar with it. It also isn’t really adjusted to the reality of how most millennialist live.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:23 PM
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So why did so many stay married to drunks and losers who treated them terribly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:21 PM
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They’re struggling to feed themselves because they thought having a baby or chasing after a man was a more worthwhile endeavor than getting educated and building wealth or credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:20 PM
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But it’s hard not to be poor on a single income, is Lu point. And they’d have to make more money than men to even break even or afford childcare, and women get paid less than men. Mothers can’t deficate as much time to the workforce as fathers so it will always be that single mothers will be more likely to be poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:58 PM
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Because stability is important for child rearing and economic growth. Generally speaking - having a family is integral to building up enough wealth to live on. More single mothers just means higher taxes for everyone else to supplement the income that should be provided by a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:51 PM
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They’re not necessarily bad - I think you underestimate the extent to which women are pressured to take care of terrible men. Especially for boomers and Xers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:49 PM
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In defense of millenials - it’s largely because Boomers have been shitting on us in the job market since we came of age. We aren’t buying houses because we can’t afford them. We’re not having kids because we can’t afford them. A lot live at home because they’re still trying to recover from the 2001 and 2008 job market crashes and pay student debt. We’re up to our eyeballs in student debt and basic entry level jobs are requiring way more experience than what boomers needed. And owning a home is d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:47 PM
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is a father in the home always a net positive though? A lot of reason single motherhood became a preferable choice is becuase the men were abusive or alcoholics, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:40 PM
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That’s not the case for the vast majority of women though m
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:39 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. I think black women’s problem is collective low self esteem, and the fact that marrying black actually makes them less financially mobile and less likely to escape poverty. https://mobile.twitter.com/brookingsinst/status/978453054327525376?lang=en Not to mention black culture has a problem with toxic masculinity. The men take pride in being a leech and a cancer to the women around them. Single motherhood is only preferable when the men are broke or shit tier garbage human being…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:37 PM
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They don’t think a man’s commitment is worth anything either
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:30 PM
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in the absence of financial necessity how are we measuring the worth of a man’s commitment? That’s basically the crux of my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:29 PM
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I’m not sure commitment free society is a good idea either - but in the absence of financial necessity how are we measuring the worth of a man’s commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:27 PM
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Or because marriage almost always benefits the woman much more so than the man in almost every scenario? I’m not sure that’s the case. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201510/is-marriage-worth-the-trouble-women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:25 PM
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Yeah that’s my main complaint - men don’t seem to ever have to grow up, which is partially why mostlf tgeir commitment seems so low value. But then again if it weren’t for marriage, and their wives forcing them to grow up, the problem would probably be worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:20 PM
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Because women often complains about doing most of the child rearing and having to babysit their husbands half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:17 PM
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50 years ago? Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:16 PM
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There just always seems to be a precarious balance between men who are actively destructive to society and those that are actively constructive. Then there a whole lot in the middle who are just kind of there taking up space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 12:15 PM
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Just because they got married doesn’t mean the man gave a shit. Plenty of men walked out on their families and didn’t come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 06:04 AM
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What happens in marriages that makes women lose that feeling? It sounds like such a good idea up front but it doesn’t play out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 05:50 AM
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It’s probably not worthless to his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 05:49 AM
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If the choice is to be married or destitute or ostracized from your peers, what choice and “agency” do women really have? Women have only had Agency for like 50 years in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 05:46 AM
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But if you cannot keep a man, that says more about your attitude and system of values than it does about men. No woman “keeps” a man. He either feels a sense of responsibility to his family or he doesn’t. If I have to walk on eggshells to keep him from running off and abandoning his kids and family then there’s no way to be happy. Your entire post is like you're trying to convince yourself and others on why it's just not worth it. I’m just trying to grasp why society makes this the end all be al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 05:45 AM
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Sometimes that doesn’t even matter
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 04:51 AM
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Have you read TRP? This is pretty much par for the course.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 03:14 AM
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Generally speaking, women take a subservient role in their marriages. All in all, the extra support makes men healthier wealthier and happier. https://www.dailywire.com/news/14235/study-married-men-are-happier-aaron-bandler
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 03:06 AM
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Yeah I definitely think some women got married becuase society tells them they’re worthless without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 03:02 AM
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legitimate paternity means my husband has skin in the game and won't half ass it. “Ha!” -Baby Daddies everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 03:01 AM
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Yeah - I’d say we should probably teach poor women to have more value in themselves besides chasing after men and making babies. That’s why a lot of them stay stuck where they are in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:46 AM
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I’m looking for objective measures. In theory it would be like hanging out with your best friend all the time and fun, but in practice that’s not really the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:44 AM
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These are all monetary benefits though - I’m looking for something besides money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:39 AM
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Okay - what about them do you think makes them so valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:38 AM
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That’s a tall order most men can’t meet. A lot barely even try.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:36 AM
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I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:29 AM
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I’m looking for benefits outside of an extra paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:23 AM
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Married men are happier, healthier, and wealthier. https://www.dailywire.com/news/14235/study-married-men-are-happier-aaron-bandler
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:11 AM
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But then why are married women so colossally unhappy? They won. Shouldnt that mean that having a committed partner would make them happier and healthier than a single woman. Married men are usually happier and healthier than single counterparts, but it’s not the same for women, why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:10 AM
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This is pretty much common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:07 AM
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Yeah - I’m looking for tangible life benefits. When they do those happiness heirachy surveys, Married women are always at the bottom of the list in terms of happiness. Less than married men and single women, by a lot. So what is a man’s commitment worth if it’s not making you tangibly better or happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 02:00 AM
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“Love” doesn’t mean his commitment has value. Plenty of women are in love with men who otherwise treat them horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:57 AM
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Make your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:56 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:53 AM
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I’m making the argument that the vast majority have little tangible value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:49 AM
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I think it’s hilarious you follow me to every thread posting the same quote. Why are you so mad? I didn’t make the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:48 AM
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Women will be babysitting their man, resenting him, and tolerating disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:44 AM
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That is a temporary loss, commitment seems like it might be a lifetime loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 01:42 AM
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Most men are incompetent as fuck - which is why women always want the top 20%. So is the answer is that a man’s commitment doesn’t seem to be worth much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:17 PM
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The Rules is dated as fuck and had no use in the modern dating market. It’s basically guidelines as to how to be a manipulative stepford wife, which was all good for our moms and grandmas but millenials aren’t trying to hear that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:14 PM
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How would you know you want a LTR with him before sex? Sex is so goddamn important. I mean I suppose you could tell every guy that and the just dump the guys who are bad at sex or have other flaws you find about later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:12 PM
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The hottest most popular guys run through girls until their SMV dips - so it’s not necessarily a reflection on you. Most of the hottest guys I know have beta orbiters who they end up with because she’s the last one sanding and they eventually get her pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:11 PM
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No one dates in college though because they’re all broke. Or barely. They hang out all the time and hook up. It’s easy to put in face time with a girl who lives in your dorm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:07 PM
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it’s damn near impossible to tell your true SMV and RMV if you’re a woman because men’s tastes are so varied. There were some really attractive athlete types I knew in college that were running through all the hottest girls on campus. They married some of the most basic average-in-the-face bitches I’ve ever seen. Further - your SMV and RMV doesn’t become clear until you’re in your mid to late 20s because in your teens and early 20s most guys are broke, so they have nothing to invest in you. Ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:02 PM
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I agree with this - it’s damn near impossible to tell your true SMV and RMV if you’re a woman because men’s tastes are so varied. There were some really attractive athlete types I knew in college that were running through all the hottest girls on campus. They married some of the most basic average in the face bitches I’ve ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:00 PM
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What is a man’s commitment worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:57 PM
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Are you sure? I mean I can throw a dart and hit a country where that’s a way of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:41 AM
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Fidelity and loyalty can literally be used as synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:14 AM
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That’s exactly my point - men are not naturally benevolent to women. The only thing keeping women’s rights going forward is that to deny them would be to destroy the democracy. If they thought they could maintain female subservience and not threaten demoncracy, they would. I mean the American civil war was the bellwether of how men will react when their abuse victims fight back. Lincoln barely kept America together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:11 AM
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Men aren't unconditionally loyal in romance either. Shole’ ain’t. How many men trade their old wives in as soon as the get a little power? Doesn’t matter if she sacrificed for him for years. George Lopez wife literally gave him a kidney and that wasn’t enough to stop him from stepping out on their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:08 AM
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I think women have freedoms in the western world solely because men believe in democracy more than totalitarianism. In countries without democracies the needles for women’s rights do not move very far despite women’s protests and they DO actually literally bomb, kidnapp, and rape women who do not comply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:05 AM
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Right, western men just think women should have to tolerate sexual abuse to keep a job. Same shit, different smell.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:02 AM
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Apparently not wanting to be treated like actual slaves means we’re “demanding” and “entitled”. And if we don’t submit to their plans, they’ll threaten to go to some developing country to find a woman to exploit there. These guys are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:58 AM
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In any case. loyalty that requires a state of dependency is no loyalty at all Most men do not think this way. Given the opportunity, they will force dependence to keep women subservient to them and easily controlled. Feminists have fought long and hard for female independence despite men all collectively gnashing their teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:53 AM
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Yeah all those women in Sudan are getting their vaginas mutilated because they’re making the wrong “choice” in being loyal. GTFOH. Give men loyalty and they will abuse it within a single generation. It’s the way you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:49 AM
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Why are we using gang members as the standard? Those aren’t the men I would turn to for guidance on how to make good life decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:46 AM
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why a man would wish to have someone loyal as his partner. And if that wishing fails they’ll just commit various forms of escalating violence against you to force you and say it’s “the natural order of things”.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:44 AM
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Loyalty to men means complete ownership of his wife. It’s too much and it’s bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:40 AM
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Men expect women to be “loyal” while they treat us like actual slaves. Like seriously, fuck being loyal. You all don’t deserve it in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:39 AM
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Loyalty to men to your detriment is foolish and ill advised. Loyalty applies when negative things happen beyond his control or he tried and failed at something, not that he’s actively disrespecting you in anyway. 'If you are silent about your pain, they'll kill you and say you enjoyed it.'
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 04:37 AM
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I’m highly skeptical that the only thing she was unhappy about was the size of the apartment. That sounds like male selective hearing. And not waiting up for her after she was in the ER is a pretty bonehead thing to do. I mean damn, your girlfriend should not have to tell you to check up on her if she’s in the ER.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 05:58 AM
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We should we just sit around letting society be shit? I mean really. Of course we’re going to try and make it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 01:26 AM
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I would still leave a good review if the guy was nice but we just didn’t click. I think the app would develop its own etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 01:21 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf Pages 19 -20. Difference in median lifetime sexual partners between black women and white women .7. This is less than one partner difference, and considering that black women tend to get married later anyways it makes sense. Difference between median lifetime sexual partners for white men and black men: 1.8 Difference in partners between black men and women: 2.5 partners Difference between white men and white women: 1.4 partners. And black men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 02:18 AM
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I think it’s evolved to where there is a mix of people on there. People have tinder like they have Facebook. They’re not all necessarily looking for hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:17 AM
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Black women are no more promiscuous than other groups of women. They just sleep with a smaller pool of men because they tend to limit themselves to black men. Black men on the other hand are VERY promiscuous compared to their peers and therefore are responsible for most of the disease spreading. Finding ways to limit the amount of women these community dick guys can expose will only drive the rate in which black women catch STDs down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:14 AM
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Yes. You’re an older man with emotional baggage who barely has his life together. If I’m young and attractive, why would I take my chances with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:09 AM
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Actually it would probably save some of these women because they are all probably sleeping with the same disease ridden black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 01:04 AM
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Then what’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 12:53 AM
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I think harassing people is grounds for terminating the account.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/18 12:13 AM
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The collective public. No one else wants to pay for your kids and ex’s well being if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:15 PM
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I thought the points of Tinder was to find guys outside your social circle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 11:01 PM
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Disturbing Video of Woman Getting Slapped by Street Harasser Goes Viral in France https://www.thecut.com/2018/07/video-of-woman-slapped-by-harasser-goes-viral-in-france.html
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:41 PM
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We’d just raise the value of child support since you would still be obligated to provide housing for your children assuming the woman couldn’t work on her on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:33 PM
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I’m asking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:29 PM
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The deterrent would be You’d have to start all over and/or maybe Tinder imposes a limit of new profiles from a certain IP address.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:28 PM
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Technically the same can be said about any review based app. It’s up to the users to police the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:26 PM
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If it got too high you could just delete your profile and make a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:25 PM
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Lol yeah and since she has no income of her own she could still totally divorce you and take more than half of your earnings in spousal support and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:21 PM
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A woman fucking below her income level is hustling backwards. Of what use is a man to her then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:18 PM
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Yeah that’s a con - I suppose if you use tinder to have a lot of sex and you’re female then you’d risk being pigeonholed as the goodtime girl. But isn’t it presumed that most people on Tinder are there to hookup anyways?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:16 PM
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Of what use is a man without money?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 10:11 PM
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OMFG NO. You all have selective ass reading comprehension. Did you actually read the NYT article? People keep repeating this one part about the girls in his hotel room (fellow comedians) but ignoring the other parts where he was asking coworkers, on set, to masturbate in front of them and audibly masturbating in his office on The Chris Rock Show. This was not a one time incident after a long night, he was clearly jerking off at work in front of subordinate employees. https://www.hollywoodreporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 09:35 PM
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What strawmen? Idiots are always allowed their own opinion, even if it’s delusional bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 06:27 PM
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Men are more likely to be assaulted in a way you can be reported for becuas there is significant physical injury and evidence. Women get groped and grabbed all the time and it’s impossible to catch these guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:52 PM
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Do the work ladies described by u/SerpentCypher count for the purposes of this thread? I thought we were just talking about harassment with no existing relationship. If I include work harassment I need to bump my estimate up another hundred.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:50 PM
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I disagree. Women are wired to seek the highest quality of male in only one partner, and then to benefit from the resources and cock that he can provide. Kings and Emperors, royal Princes. It would be better if the women could meet in the same guy perfect aesthetics and physical perfection as much as the immense resources he can provide, but yes, some are lucky like the wives of the Egypian Pharaoh Ramses II, and find a Cristiano Ronaldo of their own. There are very few men who are worth anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 04:03 PM
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To maintain your beliefs that Cosby is innocent despite 50 years of evidence and 50+ victims you have to remain deaf dumb and delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/18 03:59 PM
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Goddess worship used to be a primary part of most religions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 05:37 PM
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Women are wired to prefer serial monogamy with a high quality male, and when that doesn't pan out into having children, she's to leave the guy and find another high quality male and finally reproduce with him. Men aren't wired for serial monogamy. Totally disagree - women are wired to procure attention and resources from as many high quality males as possible and most of us would do that if there wasn’t such a high stigma on being a “slut” and if men didn’t force us legally or under threat of vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 04:37 PM
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These Polygamous marriages work because the women all have to work together to be low maintenance on the man. They accept a part time wife position and spend most of their days working with the other sister wives to keep the home running smoothly and raise the children. Most of them also bring in supplemental income and do basic repair and maintenance. So basically, the men don’t have to do anything but go to work and do only a short amount of parenting. They also have sexual “rotations” with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 04:29 PM
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So the vast majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 04:03 PM
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What? Have you heard most black men’s response to #metoo? It hasn’t been progressive in the least. There’s idiots still out here swearing Bill Cosby was framed by the “The Man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/18 04:02 PM
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Sounds like conflicting interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 06:08 PM
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The problems are the same at any age. 23 men aren’t appreciating niceness either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 05:56 PM
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Honestly if it’s your lifelong dream, would you give up easily? Some people are driven to succeed at all cost - even subject themselves to abuse. And for a time they were very successful, it’s the damage on their psyche eventually outweighed the rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 05:44 PM
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And yet women are underpaid and denied opportunities despite all this “sexual favor”. And where do you draw the line? You think women need to suck dick for a McDonalds Job? What if you’re an Olympic Gymnast?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 05:26 PM
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Funny how those prices are only charged to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 05:20 PM
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Louis CK made his career on being a progressive minded father of two daughters. I mean his jokes about being a pervert are only funny if you don’t really believe him, specifically the times where he jokes at the expense of his two daughters. I mean I can’t watch his stand up the same way knowing he was some kind of compulsive masturbator who was routinely doing this st work. Look how quickly the movie “I love you Daddy” tanked. It’s downright fucking creepy to watch the trailers mow
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:55 PM
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I just read this book called “Corporate Confidential” - it’s quite eye opening because it reveals just how petty some of the things are that can get you fired or passed over for promotion even if completely false. But most importantly - you have to stay on brand as a company. Donald Trump being a pervert is on brand; Louis CK, ChrisHardwick, and Aziz are not. You have to understand companies are risk averse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:48 PM
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Far be it for me to defend white feminists but sometimes their hands are tied because black/brown women cant decide whether or when to exercise race loyalty vs gender loyalty. If the sexual abuser is a white male against a minority woman - they tend to be all gung ho, but if they are brown or black it becomes an “internal issue” between black/brown people. Anita Hill is a perfect example, because Clarence Thomas played the race card to shut down all accusations against him besides being guilty a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:41 PM
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You have a right to appeal - and most companies won’t outright fire you because of legality issues, but best believe they won’t renew your contract if you’ll be first on the chopping block for layoffs. The guys who get away with these lengthy careers of sexual abuse tend to have someone higher up protecting them or have enough dirt on the company that HR is scared to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:32 PM
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Just because it’s been going on a long time doesn’t make it right. I mean Marilyn Monroe killed herself and Judy Garland went crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:28 PM
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man’s career shouldn’t be ruined by allegations alone, especially ones that don’t even name him outright without any evidence. Breh - if you spent anytime in the workforce you know peoples careers are ruined over far pettier shit all the time. You’re LUCKY if HR doesn’t immediately start to counsel you out the door. These Hollywood guys aren’t special and I don’t see why they need to be protected above and beyond what everyone else gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:22 PM
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They are DEFINITELY defending these assholes. I’ve litrrally hear people say Bill Cosby is part of some conspiracy to take down black men or that what Harvey Weinstein did was justified or outright call women liars. And guys want to defend all manner of fucked up behavior like their lives depend on it if it’s not technically illegal or technically rape. The Aziz and Louis CK stories pissed me off because guys like to pretend what they did wasn’t fucked up enough for them to lose their jobs .
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:18 PM
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Helen of Troy isn’t real. And in the US, sexuality hasn’t earned women shit but further exploitation and underpayment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 04:10 PM
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I think loyalty breeds male entitlement - I don’t think it Napier’s respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 03:59 PM
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Also what makes you think that the old maid almost turning 30 didn't have a roster of fuck buddies when she was young? Because if she did she’d not be desperate or be married already. Like I said, all the girls I know who had a roster or rode cock carousel married earlier and better than the “nice” or good girls. And that she's afraid to set any boundaries lest she be dumped, again? If she was 23 and looking for a husband she'd have so many options she wouldn't be afraid to dump a loser. That’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 03:57 PM
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Tell that to all those girls getting their genitals mutilated against their will. You think being extra “feminine” makes a slight bit of difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:38 PM
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Your attractiveness doesn’t last longer actually - you just level up enough career wise that a certain amount of women are willing to trade in attractiveness for security
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:13 PM
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Welcome to TRP. You must be new here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:12 PM
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Unwanted attention can happen regardless of how you’re dressed or even your body language. I’ve seen numerous men try and chase down women who are so obviously trying to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:11 PM
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I’m an ENTJ and I feel similarly - but I’ve found that men who can keep up with me with wit are usually 1. Faking it and Hiding a lot of insecurity or 2. Complete assholes to the core.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 01:46 AM
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Hear that? Ride the cock carousel until the wheels fall off ladies!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/18 12:20 AM
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Why should she be loyal to you and if she demonstrated she would would you appreciate it? It seems like these women were giving the guys a lot of chances to do better and trying to make things work when they mess up but it’s not appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:51 PM
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Most men do not have multiple attractive options
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:50 PM
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Was she always like that or did she get lazy overtime?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:13 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:08 PM
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basically like being a spineless beta guy This is off kind of off topic - but aren’t most people who work a job spineless & beta? The one things I’ve noticed is how afraid people are of rocking the boat. People who push themselves out frying get chopped down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:06 PM
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Men are always telling women they’re wrong for overlooking these guys as partners or waiting until “The Wall” and then settling down with them. But this is hardly just a thing women do, is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 11:01 PM
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Yeah you kind of get one or the other. Some girls spend a lot of time and energy on appearance - but then they want to flex their hard work on Twitter and Instagram all day and start online beef. Girls who dress normally just don’t get the same attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:53 PM
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some men want agreeable women they say they do but I think that is boy virtue signaling. They care if she is attractive and they are getting whatever amount of sex they want I mean, basically this. These guys select for the exact traits in relationships they tell women to avoid and then wonder why their wives get bored/unhappy and want to leave. People like attractive sexy people, no matter how horrible their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:50 PM
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Most of the "hoes" I know are the nicest, sweetest, kindest, warm hearted, and caring, and fun women I know. Men love that. Despite TRPers hyper-foucsing on "n count" men would all marry this woman . She's sweet and alluring. Hence why she's married haha. This is so true - they know how men are and what they want because they have experience. Men love hoes they just don’t want to know she’s a hoe. Are you conflating "nice girls" with "Good GirlTM"? Because while Good GirlTM may be "virginal" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:45 PM
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What makes them boring exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:34 PM
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It’s two sides of the same coin - no one likes boring mature people or respects girls/guys who try too hard and put up with too much. It’s sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:30 PM
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These girls were young girls once too - the age isn’t the most important factor, as he was equally willing to date th. He specifically says the “lack of challenge” is the turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:24 PM
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Presuming they’re all equally attractive - men don’t actually like “nice” women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:21 PM
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I tried to be a good partner but I found myself constantly feeling guilty because I was bored in both relationships I had with women like this. Many of these women have removed all their “spice” because they don’t want to risk that being a red flag for future guys See look, men need “tingles” too. This hilarious nonsense that only women chase after it is ridiculous. Men don’t any stability - they want high maintenance bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 09:12 PM
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Actually women have ALWAYS worked in almost every culture save a select few wealthy white women for 1 - 2 generations. And they’ve worked hard shitty thankless jobs for little or NO pay. This erasing of women’s history to fit a narrative is exactly the bullshit I’m talking about. https://m.afscme.org/for-members/womens-leadership-training/leadership-tools/body/Women_in_Labor_History_Timeline.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/13/working-women-stay-at-home-wives-myths And rega…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 03:29 PM
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Sexuality and femininity are soft power that mean little to nothing without legal, social, and economic power to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 02:25 PM
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That’s because we’ve made womanhood synonymous with powerlessness because women have been historically disenfranchised and treated second class. We’ve made society that there is no way for women to express power unless it’s masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 06:36 AM
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You liberalis say you are offering training programs but your doing nothing to try and bring in jobs only remove the jobs these men use to have and now are killing themselves as they no longer have a job and there's no other jobs around for them to take. Last time I checked republicans have had control of the legislative branch since the Bush era. As if you actually read up on whats going on with the coal mining, you would know that often not there's no other jobs in town and the town is literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 01:50 AM
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I’m gonna go ahead and assert the radical idea that maybe transgenderism is the mental illness here. Feminism is basic self preservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:31 PM
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She started coming on to me, stalking me, sending me emails and texts. My adviser and the dean — both women — laughed it off. It went on for the better part of a year, and that was the year that I was going up for tenure. It was a very scary time. I felt very worried that if the student felt I was not returning her attentions she would claim that I had assaulted her. I felt like as a guy, I was not taken seriously. How hard is it to just not talk to someone anymore? You can block people on socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:25 PM
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Conservative men talk out two sides of their mouth. On one hand you’re all about free market and capitalism, but when the market decides your “coal mining skills” are no longer needed, you all want to play victim. Bullshit. You’re not being oppressed. Get some more marketable skills in a growing industry. We’re not all obligated to keep destroying the environment so your aging decrepit ass can keep a job. The fact that your job is obsolete means the market is working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 03:03 PM
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Lol what? What oppressing” are we doing to weak men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:59 PM
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The weakest thing he could do is nothing at all. Cowardly, uninspired, lazy men are viscerally unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 02:58 PM
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Humans are hardwired to seek connection. You can literally die of loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 06:08 AM
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The general rule of thumb I keep telling guys is your wife should never be working harder than you, at anything, ever. God made men physically stronger for a reason. You will never win a woman’s respect if you spend all your time sitting on your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 06:04 AM
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Yeah you’re creating value - you don’t have it inherently. Pussy is a commodity - dick isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:48 AM
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We disagree on the definition of entitlements. But basically because we have value and men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:09 AM
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All feminism seeks to remove is the entitlement portion - the rest is on them. If they can’t feel masculine in any way other than dominating women then they deserve to be the losers that they are. The rest of their lack of character development is on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 01:46 AM
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Yes, most men are lazy unmotivated entitled losers and their masculinity has more fragility than a soap bubble. This is America.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 01:35 AM
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Um, speak for your family only. I’m aging amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:31 PM
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I love how you always stroll through these threads to lay the truth bombs, haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:28 PM
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You have to be upper echelon attractive or rich to pull women half your age - and if you were that you wouldn’t be on redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:25 PM
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So was she: Ugly Daddy Issues/ Sexual Trauma Broke and looking for an older man to help her come up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:23 PM
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They don’t teach integrity and their self awareness is middling at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 12:29 AM
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Integrity, High Work Ethic, Self Awareness, Intellect, Discipline, Courage, Sex Appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 05:41 PM
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Divorce rape imminent. Prepare your anus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 05:38 PM
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Yeah probably, but I’m trying to not burst his happiness bubble with my overall cynicism on virgin marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 03:01 PM
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You poor sweet soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:56 PM
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So I guess it comes down to your confidence level in her decisions regarding sex. Do you think if you got married, she’d regret ever only having had sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:47 PM
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Is she also 26?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:39 PM
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Some guys voluntarily forego marriage to become priests and monks but that’s probably less than .5%. Then there’s the old gays who live with their “friend” but couldn’t get married back in the day .5% The other 4% have got to be incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:35 PM
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I'm pretty solid marriage material by most metrics so it's not like I'm some weird bum with overly high standards. Um, I’m not convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:30 PM
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35% of the men who marry suck, 5% of men never marry so they probably all suck too, so about 40% of men suck. There’s also probably some that suck but their wives never leave them, that’s probably another 20%. So I’m going to go with approximately 60% of men suck to be married to. Feels about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:25 PM
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The guys who fetishize virgins are not guys you’d want to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:17 PM
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Well if 50% of marriages end in divorce, and 70% are ended by women, it means 35% of you suck to be married to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 02:15 PM
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Probably clear to you and me, but I’ve learned a lot of white people have verrry selective memory when it comes to racism in recent history. I’ve had to explain to them that if you’ve met any black person over 55 they can distinctly remember segregation and blatantly targeted racial harassment. Telling them to “get over it” is insulting as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 01:54 PM
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Yeah she should have said Slavery, Followed by Jim Crow, Followed by Redlining, Followed by The Drug War, Followed by the War on Crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 01:17 PM
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Slavery is the reason for the season tbh. Followed by Jim Crow, Followed by Redlining, Followed by The Drug War, Followed by the War on Crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 01:17 PM
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Surprise Surprise - a black man already has an escape plan for abandoning his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 08:40 PM
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If your kids are brats it’s your fault. You’re their parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 03:23 PM
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Lol I’m sure that’s what they’re telling you but it’s absolute bullshit. Black men hate to take responsibility for anything. Easier for weak minded black men to just blame black women for their failures as men to build healthy communities. Black male/ white women couples have the highest divorce rates for a reason. Additionally - 82% of biracial children with black fathers are on welfare and 92% are born out of wedlock. These are facts. It’s not black women, it’s them. The truth of the matter is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:55 PM
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Unresolved Trauma and dysfunction caused by centuries of targeted racial abuse. Hurt people, hurt people, etc. Scarcity Principle - there are less “eligible black men” than women for various reasons. Men leverage this to their advantage and make outrageous demands because a lot of women are afraid of being single. Black women are blindly loyal to black men and aren’t as hypergamous as we should be - therefore creating a culture of low behavioral expectations Deeply ingrained cultural misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:43 PM
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Lol you live in a fantasy world where young women are clamoring to deal with old divorced men. Actually, men get remarried so they don’t have to be forced to deal with the issues that caused their first divorce. If they were particularly shitty - it’s likely their kids hate them anyway so they want to “run away” from it and try to convince some naive unsuspecting woman that their exes were the problem so they can have a “fresh start” to fuck up some other girls life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:35 PM
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How much time do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:31 PM
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I can confirm this is true - especially for older black women. They were expected to put up with ridiculous amounts of disrespect and abuse to “keep a man” and all it did was put wrinkles on their face and grey hairs on their head and stress their children out. All their men put them through absolute hell and not one of them is happy. It’s no wonder they don’t get remarried- they spent half their life living like Miss Celie from The Color Purple. Prime example: https://youtu.be/50flyRMte5Y If yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:24 PM
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Because most men suck to be married to. Men think marriage means they own you and they don’t have to do shit else to keep you but be breathing. They get lazy and complacent. Who needs that dead weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:13 PM
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Would you accept admission to your safety school while if you knew you were on the wait list at Harvard?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 02:01 PM
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Bruh, wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 01:55 PM
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Isn’t that why everyone doesn’t cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 01:54 PM
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Lol why the negative Karma? I just said his advice was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 05:22 PM
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So is TRP. Pick your poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:35 PM
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Become an ENTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:31 PM
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overspent your metoo card and people are calling you out on it Nah - there’s a difference between normal dating and what TRP encourages and it’s all about honesty and intent. TRP is all about subverting dating norms to emotionally abuse, gaslight, and lie to women so ugly low value guys can get laid, and then playing dumb when confronted, hence my post. Girls say no and dont mean it. Its a thing. You need to get over it. Why do you deny those women their own agency to make their own decisions? M…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:23 PM
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This is solid advice and the least problematic explanation thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:17 PM
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Nah just the idiots who care to post here. Half of you reek of sexual frustration and misogyny and then are shoxked, (SHOCKED, I tell you!) when you can’t pull women regularly by acting like “Chads”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:13 PM
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Landwhales dont count to your female n-count, because landwhales are landwhales and not females This is literally a textbook example of “dehumanizing women”. Sounds like they had you pegged right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:09 PM
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Doubtful - I mean being a con artist is a crime. You can’t just say whatever you want to people to get them to send you money. Why should you be able to do that for sex? And LMR stories read 9/10 like sexual assault - the line is paper thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:03 PM
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Not my point at all - if you’re honest about being a drug dealer then how does that change my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:57 PM
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You can actually sue for cheating if you’re married. It’s called “alienation of affection” in legal terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:51 PM
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I think if you’re fucking in the parking lot someone you just met then you’re not actually dating. I’m talking about actually dating regular women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:43 PM
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Kind of like turning into a land whale or creating a dead bedroom after doing whatever it took to secure marriage and children? I don’t know how you “create” dead bedrooms. You either maintain enough attraction for decades or you dont. He claimed he was open to the possibility of a relationship. But I suspect based on the fact that it didn't work out that I was, in hindsight, raped instead of enthusiastically consenting. This is for a those people who want to claim “sexual strategy is amoral” as…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:39 PM
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If it were actually that there would be a lot less shiposts on that sub. Most of it reads like revenge fantasy trickery.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:35 PM
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Reality doesn’t care for your politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:33 PM
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I’m thinking more like a fine. Just enough of a deterrent that idiots will be discouraged from doing it. And sexual assault is never okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 12:33 PM
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Okay I should rephrase that -* with girls who aren’t normally complete sluts”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 05:12 AM
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Pulling the race card now? How about stop blaming your failures on anything other than yourself. Nah - I’m just living in the real world where 50% of the country is so scared of brown people they’d vote for a dumb duck like trump. No - you got the sex under false pretense, therefore you defrauded them. I mean do you think this guy in the video is morally spotless? https://youtu.be/dzw8GbeVqiY
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 05:10 AM
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The fuck are you talking about? You market yourself as someone you're not and play politics to get yourself a promotion. This is as honest as it gets. Unless, you're completely shit at business. That might work for Donald Trump but the vast majority of us don’t get to fail up. Especially not people of color. Good thing there's plenty of people to fool some of the time. "there's a sucker born every minute" Yeah - statements like these are why I think #metoo is a long time coming. If this was any …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 05:03 AM
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Like I spelled out in my OP. Obscuring your intention to just have a sexual relationship. Saying one thing then doing another, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:55 AM
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Plenty of women want NSA sex. These Why doesn’t the TRP encourage guys to seek out these types? They’re always trying to bag women who want relationships then play dumb when she brings it up or wants to have “the talk”. It’s all spelled out on plate theory. It's not manipulation, it's adapting to your environment. You want to go tell everyone the truth all the time, do it right now. Tell me all your darkest secrets. This is the kind of purposeful misleading I’m talking about. Obviously the conte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:53 AM
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Bruh - you’re not actually bringing value though. You’re just pretending and using some slight of hand tricks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:37 AM
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Some people just have “it factor” and charisma and it overrides their physical body. For example - I could see someone like James Cordon getting a decent amount of pussy because he’s funny even though he’s fat and a little pasty. Maybe not top shelf Stacie’s but I don’t think he’d lack sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:18 AM
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Yeah - statements like these is why I think #metoo is a long time coming. If this was any product other than your dick - concealing it’s faultiness or misrepresent it’s intended use would get you sued, cussed out, and the buyer would write a lengthy one star review on Yelp. But since we don’t, men are able to get away with a lot of fraud and sexual abuse than what women can reasonably police, and some of you seem to think this is a gleeful position to take. I honestly think rape by fraud is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 04:10 AM
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What do you mean 20 percentile? Low self esteem ugly guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:54 AM
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Yeah honestly I’ve only met a handful of guys in my lifetime worth having sex with NSA/FwB. The vast majority need to provide some other value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:53 AM
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Yeah but lying about “needing more time” or otherwise acting like a boyfriend when you know you don’t want to be is the problem. And I don’t know that “LTR” material is the same for everybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:40 AM
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You know why it's called "spinning plates"? Because you mess up and drop them; they break. I mean I guess - but no woman is willingly trying to become part of your soft harem. Like every other human interaction in the world. Not everyone spends their whole day trying to manipulate people. People like that are sleazy and give off an aura.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:21 AM
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I don’t know that I agree with that - a lot of betas can be really funny and fun. They’re more intellectual than physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:17 AM
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I don’t know - there’s got to be a balance right? I’m not rolling out red carpet treatment for “situationships”. Most women would want you to make a decision within a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 03:14 AM
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But does he do that by lying or because he can genuinely inspire people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:56 AM
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Yup. Honestly you can even be beta and get sex from women if you’re fun to be around. I’m thinking a lot of these guys just have no personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:30 AM
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why would I want to be with a wannabe?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:28 AM
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I heard ISIS is hiring warlords. Wonder how that’s working out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:26 AM
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Wasn’t Androgyny big among Boomers/ Gen X in the 80s? I mean all your popular artists were wearing makeup and girls clothes and tight pants looking fruity as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:25 AM
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the top 20% don't need to lie. And the ones who are for a long time do not lie whatsoever. Players can show their intent from the very beginning and still find sex. Yes that’s my experience as well. Makes being duped by a wannabe that much more frustrating because I could be fucking someone much hotter who keeps up a lot less bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:18 AM
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There’s this whole theory called “kicking the can” whereabouts you make up excuses everytime a girl wants to define the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:12 AM
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Having gotten to know women on a deeper level, I learn that many women play coyly and try to see how assertive a guy is. You may consider such women troublesome, but maybe... just maybe, these women are much more desirable than the women who make life easier for guys. So basically you create your own problems by trying to chase women who don’t think you’re sexy enough to fuck “just because” and then act shocked when she doesn’t want to be a “Plate” and act like it’s her fault for being mislead. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:05 AM
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But how do they know that’s all that is desired? If it were - there wouldn’t be so much trouble with “plate spinning”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 02:01 AM
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I don’t understand your point? In AAVE there’s a concept called being “the truth”. It basically means someone so bomb and straightforward at being themselves that no one can deny them. That generally doesn’t involve the need to lie. If he’s honest about being a weasel to women he dates then I suppose - but seems a guy who is actually would have no need to be a weasel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:59 AM
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An Alpha in the SMV is a guy who is either so hot or so charming that women will have sex with him just because it’s good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:52 AM
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Isnt the entire premise to hold on to a girl long enough in the “plausible deniability” dating stage until she starts asking questions about the relationship? You don’t just come out and tell her the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:49 AM
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Alphas are just actually better than everyone else - so there’s little need to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:48 AM
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Nah he’s just a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:46 AM
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You’re faking because you all advocate for a lot of obfuscating of your sexual intentions in order to not tip girls off you only want sex. Therefore - you are not worthy of a girls attention “just for sex”. If she’s not getting anything of real value, then she’ll bounce as soon as you say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:46 AM
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Lie for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:44 AM
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You have to fake enough RMV to get women to sleep with you - only guys with high SMV can have truly NSA sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:43 AM
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Thing is, you know she has makeup on just by looking at her. There’s no lie becuase you can see it upfront. I don’t know you’re lying about being a doctor just by looking at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:15 AM
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“You don’t know her thoughts” was exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:14 AM
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She could just as easily thinks that you’re a date rapist who’s going to be a grabby asshole all night and is trying to preempt it by saying she’s not down with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:11 AM
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Makeup is not the same as a bald faced lie and I don’t get why you’re trying to draw equivalencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:06 AM
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Makeup is not the same as a bald faced lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/18 01:05 AM
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You all are very luckyrape by fraud isn’t a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 09:32 PM
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I’ve always said TRPs are lucky rape by fraud isn’t a common crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 09:29 PM
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the vast majority of people can’t tell the difference...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 09:28 PM
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90% of the field reports sound like date rape so it’s pretty obvious even TRP followers don’t understand this suppose definition you keep pushing. Damn sure isn’t obvious to the rest of us either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 09:25 PM
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No you think it’s becuas o slut shaming. The problem is you tards project your own feelings on situations you know nothing about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 09:24 PM
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Yeah if you want to be a garbage human being one misstep away from being “metoo’d”. TRP is lucky rape by fraud isn’t yet a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 09:21 PM
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You get treated like you’re weak and hysterical even when you have a legitimate grievance. Constant abuse followed by gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 08:58 PM
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This only works for white girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 08:54 PM
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You just made up a statement I never said and then refuted your own statement. Mental case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 08:53 PM
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You sound like a mental case
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/18 08:50 PM
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You sound like one of those guys that doesn’t like to play “tit for tat” because you’re always doing less than the other person. The worst kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 04:37 AM
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Interesting - I’d never heard of the second term. But either way trespass to chattel can still be considered a crime, and is similar in concept to nonconsual sexual interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 04:27 AM
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In what state is taking the property of another without consent not theft?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:28 AM
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Ethusiastic consent should be the social standard - not this “whatever you can’t stop me from doing” and “grope first ask questions later” rape culture bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:24 AM
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Don’t be the asshole that wants to bully women into having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/18 02:23 AM
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No it’s not an apt analogy because once you are on the roller coaster you are locked in for the duration of the ride. If I’m about to puke and pass out during sex “well you already came here so I’m just going to keep fucking you” is not an excuse. Sex is like inviting someone to your house. A nice host will invite you into the living room and share cookies with you and have a nice time. Only RUDE AS FUCK guests think that just because you were invited over you can waltz into their kitchen and st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:31 PM
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The taking of objects without expressed consent is theft. Why should rape be any different? You’re literally asking for permission to enter someone’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:24 PM
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‘K. I’m not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:19 PM
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Social standard definitely enthusiastic consent. The criminal standard is merely lack of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:18 PM
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What pisses me off the most about these questions is that you all purposefully pretend to not understand nuance. You have been doing affirmative consent since you were a child. It’s a yes or no question and it’s not hard. Behavioral standards are going to depend on how well you know ther person, just like when you’re asking for anything else. If you need to borrow money from a person who is a near stranger then you need to be explicit about what you need before grabbing their wallet and rummagin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:17 PM
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That means she was not enthusiasticly consenting. Again, that should be the standard. You shouldn’t be proud of sex where you get anything less than that. And people never took rape accusations as seriously as they should - hence the #metoo movement to force you too. It has not even begun to reach overkill for most women. Only men think this, becuase you all think everything less than forcible rape is acceptable behavior despite us repeatedly telling you that it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:10 PM
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Enthusiastic consent should be the standard. I don’t know why you all want to die on a rock defending “technically not quite rape.” Like, wtf, do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 11:02 PM
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I mean what do you want to do? Legally force women to have to interact with idiots? I mean they have “No Soliciting” laws for a reason becuase people don’t like being harassed at their house or job or grocery store or wherever. I wish I could just wear one around my neck. Goddamn y’all are thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:58 PM
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There are a million other fears more pressing than being afraid of a fake rape claim, given its tiny occurrence. Rape and sexual assault are common and probable for women and a risk to our daily living.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:56 PM
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LOL oh well. Stay home. Bring a buddy. Don’t drink in the company of women. Do you need a sexual assault whistle so you feel safer around women in case they “falsely” accuse you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:53 PM
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Nah this was straight offensive. He’s totally downplaying #metoo as if all the claims are just random women making up stuff for no reason and being hysterical. That’s the only way you can claim with a straight face that you’re “scared” to talk to women now. Most of the public claims have been credible, egregious, and repeated. He’s acting like there is no way reasonse to avoid these things which is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:52 PM
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Women demand the right to never interact with any man *SEXUALLY in any way they don't like, FTFY. And this statement is perfectly reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:47 PM
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Define “normal”? A lot of what you all think is normal is actually rape culture, which is where the disconnect is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:44 PM
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Oh wow - that’s not something that’s oftem talked about on TRP. Men actually being jealous or resentful of their wives success or happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:13 PM
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I just don’t know why OYS is so revolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 10:03 PM
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What does any of this have to do with my post whatsoever? Are you here just to humble brag?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 09:52 PM
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It’s Ironic, don’t you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 09:49 PM
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People pleasing. You’d all hate it if we stopped. Feminists have certainly advocated for women to stop doing so much performative sexuality but based on men’s reactions it’s here to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 05:31 PM
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Red Flags: Some guys lead with Active Dread because they think it’s going to make me hop on their dick more. Problem is I don’t and will never give a fuck about trying to win a man’s approval, so it doesn’t work. And only a small percentage of guys are the real deal of the “image” they’re trying to portray. They must realize that at some point, because then comes the phone calls/texts later like “how come we stopped talking?” and trying to “accidentally dial or text” my number. “Kicking the can”…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 03:35 PM
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You’re missing the analogy about the boss. The point is people catch on to patterns of behavior overtime. If you’re always subverting your true intentions, or trying to shirk certain responsibilities to your relationship, or overall using TRP tactics - women will catch on and it will piss them off. You might not know TRP by name - but she’d definitely notice you trying to pull dread game or be disingenuous about why you’re doing things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:58 PM
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Wow that’s interesting. Do you know why he abandoned them or why it was good?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:51 PM
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You mean you avoid any women who might impose consequences for your actions. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:47 PM
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TRP mentality, you're ready to walk away from any woman at any point. If I was with a man who felt this way, I’d be lining up backups the entire relationship. Like, why should she be honest if you’re not? If you live or work with a red pilled man, you would never know it without peeping, as you put it. But people notice patterns of behavior. You could only do some of these things maybe 3-4 times before she picks up on it - and then what? I had a boss like that once - I thought he was just a nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:39 PM
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Terps don’t say that though because they know 90% of women would pull the plug on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:31 PM
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I’m not sure most women would “like” all TRP tactics. Especially not the “Plates” or “Dread Game” stuff. A lot of this stuff seems like it only works if she doesn’t think you’re doing it. Like a woman will have sex with you for a time if she thinks you’re honestly trying to get to know her, but I she finds it she’s just part of some “plating” strategy and that you’re not really sincere that would piss her off. Or she might try and step up her game if she notices you pulling away, but again if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:27 PM
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Bone isn’t bad for you. Westerners are really picky about the parts of the meat they eat, but humans evolved to eat all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:21 PM
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I mean, I think the OYS part of TRP is good - but after that you have to talk honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:19 PM
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TRP isn't a set of parlor tricks that some weirdo is going to use to trick you into a relationship I wish you were right about this, but when I’ve encountered it in real life it’s exactly what it is. Sometimes I can even see the mental wheels turning.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:18 PM
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Going nuclear at a “Perceived slight” and actually going nuclear at actually being slighted are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:16 PM
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It pretty much requires it because most of you know women aren’t volunteering to be “plates” without some heavy subversive and obsfucation of intention tactics. Same goes for “Dread Game” in a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:13 PM
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Catches on? Like, starts using it too? Why would they need to? It’s a dating strategy. They’re already in a relationship. It’s dating and relationship strategy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:11 PM
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“Enjoying company” and being setup by massive disingenuous bullshit is not the same. Her enjoying your company is predicted on believing your are basically an honest or straightforward person. If she finds out it’s all tactics that would piss anyone off.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 02:04 PM
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Yeah you would. And many guys do - especially if you knew she didn’t wait 3 months to have sex with someone else but started with you becuase of “The Rules”. And the rules is weak ineffective garbage anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:54 PM
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Suspicious he was trying to pull a fast one. Either outright bluffing, or trying to “game” you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:53 PM
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Some of the strategies seem counterproductive and condescending though. Like if you started shutting down communication and not addressing issues that you need to or just started trying to act like the “Captain” of the House when you haven’t really earned that level of respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:51 PM
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Either way - if she finds out she’ll probably go nuclear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:46 PM
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I knew about TRP strategy before I had a name for it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:45 PM
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Right but if she knows what you’re doing wouldn’t it be a lot less effective? Wouldn’t she just develop counter strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:43 PM
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t expecting me to actually stop just because they said so. Shows you how pervasive rape culture is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 04:41 AM
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That’s because parental laws unfairly penalize the custodial parent, so the non custodial parent can just skip out at any time and not have to put in a shred of effort. I don’t know how you can possibly doubly penalize the custodial parent while feeling like the males should be able to just walk off scot free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 04:30 AM
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You’re all on TRP becuase you’re clueless about women’s behavior but expect women to be clairvoyant in their dealings with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 04:05 AM
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There is no way to make a man stick around and raise his kids - there’s no such thing. I find it amazing that you all love to put the responsibility of all of humanity on women but still love to talk about how you’re the “captain” and “boss”. GTFOH most of you are perpetual little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 03:32 AM
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Why aren’t men ever expected to put their child’s needs above themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:29 AM
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Find the lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/18 01:15 AM
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It means at some point during the night she changed her mind. Human beings are allowed to do that. But the key point is you were invited to her bedroom. If you try to Aziz Ansari a chick all night after she’s repeatedly told you know you’re looking at assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:08 PM
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so you think it’s responsible to send a bunch of social retards out to push past “LMR” and think they are reliably going to tell the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:01 PM
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Maybe he had massive amounts of debt or a spotty resume. You don’t know his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:59 PM
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No I understand exactly what the fuck it is and it’s a very irresponsible tactic to teach to men who are already social retards at reading women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:58 PM
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Y’all damn sure can’t tell the difference. TRP is Very irresponsible sending a bunch of social retards out to “overcome LMR”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:56 PM
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Yeah just google “Brendan Fraser Bakd”. He got hairplugs bc people were roasting him so much over his MPB. Prince William is another guy who’s attractiveness level took a HUGE nosedive after going bald. He used to be a complete fox and now he’s...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:30 PM
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Nah it’s a cliff. Look at Brendan Fraser. Also the dad bod is a steeper cliff than women getting a little fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:25 PM
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Going bald/thinning hair is a pretty steep wall. So is getting a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:25 PM
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Going bald is a pretty steep cliff.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:22 PM
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It’s also a good way to catch a rape charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:18 PM
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How do you propose to be popular being an asshole? You better have some kind of money or skill to back that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:16 PM
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TERPS correctly observe women’s behavior, but routinely get our motivations wrong. They act on incorrect assumptions about how women feel about a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:10 PM
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Nah guys here have definitely been mansplaining to me about how women are just “naturally attracted to assholes” for some dumb reasons. No we’re not. We tolerate assholes because of some perceived payoff or benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 03:07 PM
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Right, and random white girls who are not already famous don't get media attention either... Yeah - bullshit. How many times did I have to hear about the Elizabeth Smart and Natalee Holloway Story? Do you know of any murdered or abducted black or Hispanic girls that the whole country knows on a first name basis? I’ll wait. That is demonstrably not true, you even after his death every article I saw about XXXTentacion was attacking him for his actions. Articles were neutral at best and it sure did…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:07 PM
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What makes you think I think black people are inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 12:56 PM
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I think it matters but probably the way labia size and coloration matters as I wrote above. No no no no - the size and shape of a man’s penis has a HUGEimpact on a woman’s pleasure. Vaginas have varying shapes as well. If your vaginal canal curves right and you’re with a guy who’s dick curves left, you’re going to have a bad time. Do you spend time looking deep into a girls spread thighs when you are going camping together? Well damn I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 06:04 AM
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I think women just prioritize different sexual traits depending on their overall economic security level. When basic needs are plentiful and secure - women might value companionship and “beauty” more and maybe select for more feminine men. When resources are scarce - a more masculine man who’s physically suggests raw power will be more attractive. Sexuality is in part socially influenced. I think once a man meets a certain attractiveness threshold - Personality starts to matters a lot. Sexual ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:54 AM
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Big dicks are fun for a little while but after awhile they can become a chore. One of my exes was so large it was difficult to stay hard because he had to have a lot of blood pumping in to lift it’s weight. I also used to get lockjaw after 5 min of blowing him. And this clown had the nerve to beg and whine for anal. It was a HARD NO from me dawg. So actually, some women don’t prefer large penises for actual physical sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:32 AM
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Nicki Minaj’s ex-boyfriend Safaree 😍😍 DEFINITELY NOT SAFE FOR WORK!! https://mobile.twitter.com/_joshuaaaaaa/status/967917008749723649
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:24 AM
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A very large penis looks viscerally powerful. I’d wager many women may not prefer them for the actual physical sex act but most like looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:23 AM
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Yes - it’s more of spice to an already sexual conversation. If I had a positive experience with the person sexually then a dick pic is a pleasant reminder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:17 AM
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I’ll tell you what an ugly dick looks like and you can deduce from there: Discolored Weird splotchy patches Weird Bumpiness Hair growing in a weird pattern or not groomed Chaffed and Dry looking Shriveled very droopy balls. Short and stumpy or long and skinny Nice looking dicks are the same color all the way down the shaft, well groomed, decent size, and smooth. After that is just personal preference. Some women like curvy dicks, some women like veiny dicks, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:14 AM
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It’s usually part of some ongoing flirtation - for in between meetings. Text me a dick pic on Wednesday so I’m hyped for Friday. I mean, women DO like dick pics ...but only if invited. You have to understand that a man’s penis is both a source of pleasure and a violent weapon. Some dicks are definitely nice looking and ware viscerally sexual, but only if invited. It’s just a lot to unleash it all at once with no warning. Uannounced dicks are threatening. If someone just pulled out a gun without …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 05:05 AM
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Yeah physical attractiveness will always be at a premium - but I’m not sure that’s a groundbreaking secret. Rich and powerful women who don’t need a man to secure their position in society can select mates or have sex partners purely on physical attractiveness. Every other woman has to approach it with a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:57 AM
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Hell the fuck no. I only accept dick picks after I’ve already seen it up close and personal. Preemptive dick picks will get you put out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:50 AM
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Women don’t really select the Alpha males in a macro sense - men select the Alpha Males and the women follow suit. The key is for men to make the guys with merit the men of value. That means you must support the success of men who are powerful AND virtuous into leadership. Women are kind of doing it now with the #metoo movement - getting rid of the toxic abusive male leadership where it’s found. Men need to support the toppling of ruthless male figureheads in favor of those who are more balanced…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 04:42 AM
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which as I said, is mostly an issue for women, not men, t If it’s an issue to 50% of your workforce and clients, then it’s an issue for everyone. women talking about sex with their husbands and boyfriends and wanted me to participate. And one time, one of the female workers had a crush on me, and they had a plan where she would follow me into the filing room and the boss would lock the room. That happened, and when I told her I just wanted to do my job, she started crying. My boss came in and sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 02:52 AM
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A lot of people work shit jobs and subject themselves to abuse on promises of future payoff. Hell, that’s what internships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 02:33 AM
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Sounds more like a social retard problem AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 02:23 AM
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Right - but money is only one marker of success and doesn’t always outweigh the other two. I’d happily fuck a top physical specimen athlete with good social skills who makes me makes millions of dollars vs some goofy bill gates looking guy just because he has a billion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 02:22 AM
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Those guys may be losers to you, but they are alphas in their environment. If you’re a woman who lives in a trailer park a guy with a meth lab in his basement might seem like a step up. You have to assess to scale. Women just aren’t dating assholes - they have some kind of value. You all just want to think that because otherwise you’d have to admit you’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 02:19 AM
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No. Women select for men with value first and merit second. They are willing to tolerate a certain level of abuse to get it. That is how all of life works. Rich and handsome and athletic men have value to society so women want those guys. They have the tools and markers of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:53 AM
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This is how all of life works bud. Do you think your employer cares that you’re a good person inside, or that you can produce results and bring value?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:50 AM
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Oprah would like a word with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:49 AM
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It really depends. If it’s your company then you get to set the rules. But generally, the problem with bachelor leaders is they tend to create toxic workplaces. Why? Too much tolerance of ManChild Immaturity, sexual harassment, spergy dealings with clients and women, selfishness, workaholism, arrogance - etc. I mean there are multiple companies that have gotten dragged through the coals because it was led by some smart man with zero social awareness who let terrible behavior from his underlings …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:44 AM
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Um, second of all - you do have to trust your boss, that’s what seperates the shitty ones from the good ones - your ability to get your employees and the higher ups to buy in to your initiatives. It’s also your ability to sell an image of success. I mean if you want to be like Michael Scott and fail upwards you might get lucky but you better be excellent at ass kissing. And female leaders run the gamut of personalities just like male leaders so I don’t what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:11 AM
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I mean Ive definitely had guys flip out and curse me out before. It’s not worth the negative energy - rejection sets off male rage. This is a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/18 01:07 AM
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Yes but women won’t trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:22 PM
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Value to women falls into 3 categories, physical fitness, social success, and financial success. A professional athlete is all of those things. Super rich nerds have only one thing going for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 10:21 PM
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and they have success with women because they have some kind of demonstrated value in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 09:24 PM
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Women select for me with value first. They are willing to tolerate a certain level of abuse to get it. That is how all of life works. Rich and handsome and athletic men have value to society so women want those guys. They have the tools and markers of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 09:22 PM
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There are also female employees to consider. Why do you think women would trust the leadership of a man who hasn’t shown he can manage his own family?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 09:21 PM
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If people judged all black men because of the failures of a few, you’d be screaming racism. You need to vet better. Or is that only on black women to vet and save the entire community somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 09:18 PM
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The top three comments says that a good portion of the time it’s a safety issue for women. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about that. I’m not out here trying to risk my life explaining to men what’s wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 09:08 PM
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I don’t only date player types - but there are probably way more player types than not among black men. black masculinity is toxic for a lot of reasons that predate my existence. Most of these guys are “riding the pussy train” until they’re old and fat and have no idea how to be responsible adults and fathers. And at my income level they’re fairly scarce. I wish there was a happy medium between aggressive player and low self esteem dweeb, but they’re rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 01:24 PM
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Rihanna got attention because she was already famous. No one cares about those other rappers girlfriends and what a sick person they are. They still sell out shows and xxtentacions “vigils” were so numerous they caused riots. No one cares about rape or abuse when it happens to black women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 01:12 PM
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Yeah I’m black - why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:52 AM
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Why does she have to be ghetto? Most black girls will take that as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:56 AM
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I don’t know what it is or why some people are targeted and not others but I’ve always suspected it’s either people who seem like easy targets or people they feel threatened by in some way. They’re starting to be called out in public though - there have been news stories about women like this since that lady called the police on those two black guys at Starbucks for no reason. Google “Permit Patty” or “BBQ Becky”, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:49 AM
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Damn breh - just go talk to some black women and find out lol. Most will be polite to you if you’re polite to them. Maybe you’ll find your lady love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:33 AM
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We just have different cultural values and musical preferences. African music of all kinds all over the world tends to be percussion heavy - it lends itself to more dancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:26 AM
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You're hot? I do aiight. I manage to turn some heads in LA. I will say that "beautiful" black women often have "white features," though, so is that bigoted? Depends on what you mean by “white features”. Africa is so phenotypically diverse that there are black people with all sorts of features
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:25 AM
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She sounds like one of those brown girls that spent her whole life obsessing over white people and as soon as she lost the weight she thought she finally had a chance to live out her “fantasy”. She thinks she’ll win white approval proclaiming how “different” she is from the other brown folks. I feel bad for those people - their self esteem is in the gutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:18 AM
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Oh shit even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:10 AM
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Sounds about white.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:05 AM
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Beats me. Every job I’ve had with a fat middle aged white woman as a boss has been pure hell. It’s like they double down on white girl entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:03 AM
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Society only cares about white girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:01 AM
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Did they have the “let me talk to a manager” haircut? https://pics.me.me/the-can-i-speak-to-the-manager-haircut-jimmer818-right-24924479.png
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 04:00 AM
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There’s a difference between women who accept abuse and are sexually attracted to abuse. The former us all women to a certain degree, the second is some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 07:30 PM
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Define “normal”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:20 PM
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No they’re usually pretty fucking obvious excuse they’re only “gay” when they have an audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:15 PM
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We all accept a certain level of abuse - it’s the tax on being female. Some families/cultures are most severe than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:11 PM
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I’m going to say no, it’s not neurotypical. I think it’s 90% socially conditioned. No creature is born without a sense of self preservation - it’s largely socialized out of us. Society socially conditions women to accept a certain amount of abuse from men without real retaliation. It starts from when we’re little girls. Boys can be dicks to us and it’s all justified by “oh he’s mean to you because he likes you”. We’re supposed to take it and be flattered. We’re also tasked with the fairytale adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:30 PM
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Ugh there is no greater traitor to femininity than these bitches. Both straight women and genuine lesbians hate them. “Gay for Attention” is not a sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:11 PM
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Because now you have to be worried about your guy having “friends” of both genders. Screw that, lol. Much harder to trust a mate who you think might be giving guys blow jobs at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:07 PM
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Is beta synonymous with “needy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 03:05 PM
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I don’t know - there are a lot of platitudes doled our in society that aren’t true or only partially true. I’ve certainly heard them and I understand their anger. It sucks to feel like you had the rules all wrong. “Money doesn’t but happiness” (mostly not true) “The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach” (mostly not true) “Guys won’t like girls who sleep around” (not true) “The right guy will wait to have sec with you until marriage” (probably not) “Beauty is only skin deep. It’s the insid…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:45 PM
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If you’re dating, being relatively earnest in getting to know her, and you find a dealbreaker or are incompatible down the line it’s okay. It’s also probably best to tell her that - even if you don’t want to get into specifics. I’m just more talking about the guys hemming and haweing about dating in the first place, “breadcrumbing”, going hot and cold, ghosting, etc. The first way shows respect for the person and their overall intelligence - the second way is just weak and manipulative and insul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:32 PM
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LOL the lies. Of course they do. Narcissists/manipulators are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:21 PM
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Most of what women suffer from are social consequences, it there a few key legal issues too: Women are arrested for child neglect more often although men abandon their children more Women are more punished socially for being assertive and for lying. I would LOVE to see female candidates who are as big as POS as Bill clinton and Donald Trump get elected. Prostitutes face harsher punishments than Johns. women are more likely to be penalized professionally for errors Example: https://www.vox.com/sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 12:12 PM
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What are you getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:48 AM
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Do you really need this? Just open a map and throw a dart and you have a good chance at hitting a country where women obviously have less rights than men and are socially and legally punished for behavior men are not. Apparently slavery is okay if you call it “marriage” and say God told you to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:43 AM
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Since when? The only person in jail right now is the pedophile from Penn State. These guys were allowed to operate at impugnity for decades upon decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:39 AM
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It’s used to explain away all sorts of sexual violence, rude behavior, bullying, and infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:35 AM
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Affluenza Kid, Stamford Rapist, Louis CK, Catholic Church, Bill Cosby, Penn State Football, Harvey Weinstein, every athlete that’s ever raped anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:26 AM
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And major sexual harassment. And statutory rape. And assault. And drunk or forcible rape. And even pedophilia apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:23 AM
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It means you’re dragging things out too long. If you “still don’t know” after 3 months you’re always going to look like you’re just there for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 11:21 AM
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I’m trying to find examples that run counter to TRP narrative that single motherhood is solved by marriage or that AWALT. Can I change the post somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:56 AM
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No guy punches you in the face on the first date. Like I said it’s a slow escalation of boundary pushing and gaslighting. It can happen to women have healthy self esteem if they’re not familiar with narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 02:52 AM
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LOL what?!! Men are given SO much leeway. Whatever happen to the “boys will be boys” excuse for damn near every shorty behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:33 PM
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Most guys don't even have the mental capacity or patience to successfully study the interests of some woman they just want to fuck (assuming she has any non-basic interests). You can pick this up in casual conversation. Red Pill and PUA advice is to let her do most of the talking because it is actually kinda hard to bullshit about stuff you don't care about to a girl you don't care about and make it sound convincing and smooth. Redpill and PUA are social retards. I’m talking about guys I’ve know…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:27 PM
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This is lived experience - and I have PLENTY of it. Lovebombing is extremely common - especially the more attractive you are. They really lay it on thick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 05:24 PM
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The hotter you are the more nicer they act up frint but a man doesn’t stop being a misogynist just because they managed to get some exclusive pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 05:23 PM
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Of course they don’t just walk into them - did you read what I wrote at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 04:29 PM
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Lol you’ve never watched Scandal or House of Cards? They’re ALL master manipulators. It’s their business.,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:36 PM
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These red flags can only be assessed in aggregate. Master Manipulatirs are masters at plausible deniability and deflection. It’s rarely one thing - it takes time to suss out. If people were always who they presented themselves to be then politics would be so much more straightforward. The truth is everyone who plays the game gets their hands dirty a little bit. You just have to figure out to what degree - and that takes time to separate out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:29 PM
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Because sex on its own will rarely have value to a woman, whereas it usually has value to a man. And it will always come with higher risks for women. It isn’t an even exchange or value and risk - therefore women need something additional from men to make up the difference. And it’s not just about “getting off” - there’s nothing exciting about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:20 PM
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You have to understand that abusive men are not like that up front and these women are highly trusting or have low self esteem. They’re almost always perfect boyfriends up front and then they withdraw affection, and give these women plausible reasons why it’s their fault he’s acting like that. Honestly, the nicest women I know are the ones who always end up in these shit relationships because they feel overrresponsible for things going bad and can’t recognize the game being played. They think it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:17 PM
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does he listen to you? Does he care about how you feel outside of the extent to which is gets him laid? Does understand you enough to do things that matter to you, and not just generic "nice" things? Of course they do or pretend to - they just “stop” doing it once they feel they don’t have to. They’ll talk with you hours on the phone - study things you like, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:11 PM
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What do you do - sit there cross armed and smirking until someone proves you wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:09 PM
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Thus, A good rule of thumb is, the highest his value, and thus access to women, exponentially worst he will treat you. And the highest your value in the market, linearly better he will treat you. This is so not true. Assholes are evenly distributed along the looks scale. Attractive men just have more opportunity to exercise being assholes. If you think ugly guys aren’t as whiny selfish and entitled, I have news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:08 PM
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You have no idea how bad the average man is in bed. I mean it is truly disappointing on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:02 PM
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Isn’t that just proving me right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:58 PM
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Because they likely knew who you were before sex so it’s weird to suddenly be “disappointed”. Rarely is a woman so bad in bed that it negates his previous feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:49 PM
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All women have experienced this - and likely more than once. We can’t all have poor social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:33 PM
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Nonsense - “Lovebombing” is damn near indistinguishable from the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:08 PM
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Maybe. In my parents generation Many guys just “go to the store” and never come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:02 PM
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These guys end up in deadbedrooms. If she dorsnt like sex for the sake of sex in varying scenarios you’re going to have a tough time maintaining sexual desire in the long term because she can just turn it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:01 PM
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Yes it’s called “Love bombing” and it’s MUCH worse than being pumped and dumped. https://hellogiggles.com/love-sex/dating/signs-being-love-bombed-toxic-dating-trends/ There are men who specialize in “lovebombing” which is a thing they do to pretend to be decent men and that they’re interested in you romantically. Most guys cannot get laid without some variation of this. The noncommittal guys or ONS are easier to spot - these nefarious lovebombing fuckers pull switcheroos as soon as they think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:59 PM
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They had that desire, but is the modern dating problem in both sexes, people pretend to be someone different when dating someone, and later they change returning to their true faces, women get annoying and men get distant and less "romantic", one thing make the other worse and the shit ends. This is actually worse than just a pump and dump. There are men who specialize in “lovebombing” which is a thing they do to pretend to be decent men and that they’re interested in you romantically. Most guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:47 PM
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Only the dumb women or the ones who choose to ignore red flags are satisfied with half-assed answers to "the talk". Bruh - read up on “lovebombing”. I wish it were as easy as weeding the guys out who seem noncommittal - but most of these guys know that won’t get them laid so they lovebomb upfront to seem like decent men, then reveal they’re true intentions after you’ve had sex. You friend doesn't flirt with you and even if you were moving they would help you or just be there for you when you nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:31 PM
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Lol ... How do you “lie” about being kind? And the vast majority of women don’t have plastic surgery and if those that do - the vast majority have it in their 40s or 50s as maintenance work. And if you want to go down this road - there are men who get hair plugs/transplants or sport combovers - are they all liars too? Branch Swinging is not “friendzoning” and men branch swing too, probably more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 01:20 PM
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Define “thot”? I mean if you have sex on the first date, maybe. But what about the third date? The 6th date? The first 3 months? Are these women all “thots” that deserve the pump and dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:28 AM
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The women have a sex-based relationship with him - what they want is a romantically exclusive relationship which we all know you can't expect from anyone unless you ask and they agree. Rarely do women neglect to have “the talk” with a man. TRP has all sorts of ways to make a woman think you want a relationship with her when she directly asks that you can weasel your way out of later. “Kick the Can, etc.” It’s all stuff a reasonable person would take at face value but really it’s all straight up …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 12:18 AM
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Which is what? 10% maybe of all guys? And they aren’t getting NSA sex from their looks matches either. They just have a bigger pool to choose from - since they are a 10 - they can get women at 1 through 7 without much effort since those women know they are shooting out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 11:01 PM
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The men have a friendship based relationship with her - what they want is a sexually exclusive relationship which we all know you can’t expect from anyone unless you ask - and sometimes not even then because TRP specializes in bullshit that makes it seem like you are when you’re not. You think women shouldn’t be able to expect sexually exclusive relationships after actually having sex but think men should be able to expect it just because they have a female friend they’re close to? And according…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 10:48 PM
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Yeah female friendships are much more intimate than what men’s are - from what I can tell. It’s not gay though, lol. we’re just not put off by physical contact or even nudity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 10:44 PM
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typical female solipsism. the woman wanted physical intimacy but not sex and she got what she wanted. for men, physical intimacy = sex. women don't mind physical intimacy without sex because they can get sex on demand whenever they want it They have a friendship based relationship with her - what they want is a sexually exclusive relationship which we all know you can’t expect from anyone unless you ask - and sometimes not even then because TRP specializes in bullshit that makes it seem like you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 09:53 PM
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Why do you think they’re all being deliberately strung along? If I said I assumed every male friend I’ve ever had is secretly in love with me, you’d all think I was a narcissist. And they have a friendship-based relationship with her - they want sexual exclusivity, which again - You can’t demand or expect from anyone unless you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 09:30 PM
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I understand not wanting to be hurt - but at the same time you can’t expect women to be mind readers. Most women have a few platonic friendships with men that don’t have romantic interest involved at all, so women generally don’t assume every man who’s nice to her is gunning for something more. In fact - the default is that she will likely assume you don’t unless you make a move that makes that clear. If I said that I thought every guy who I’ve ever been friends wit is secretly in love with me, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 09:06 PM
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Debate the argument or don’t bother. Nothing I said was incorrect. If you’re there only for the promise of sex - then you aren’t really her friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:38 PM
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He just stays deliberately vague and the girl is dumb enough to go along with it because she's infatuated. They'll even straight up ignore warnings from friends. Rarely do women neglect to have “the talk” with a man. TRP has all sorts of ways to make a woman think you want a relationship with her when she directly asks that you can weasel your way out of later? “Kick the Can, etc.” I mean it’s all straight up lies because they know from the jump they don’t want to be with this girl but know they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:28 PM
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they're flirty, they use kino, they tell the guy how great he is and how much they like him, they ask the guy to buy her things or do her favors, they spend time together one-on-one doing date-like activities. This is how girls treat each other when they’re friends. You just made a long description of friendship. This isn’t some trick they’re playing on men - this is how women build friendships. The only weird thing is if they’re just buying things for her and she’s not giving any things back - …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:22 PM
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No, you’re amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 08:08 PM
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“Tired of” just means they want to fuck someone else and keeping a loosely defined relationship allows them to do that while maintaining the benefits of a girlfriend from the girl they’re fuckzoning. If they had no desire for a relationship from her then that should be made clear. theres no "hahaha i promised this girl a realtionship i and just fucked she", the true is that most "liar" men actually searched an stable relationship at first Don’t you know TRP has all sorts of ways to make a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:48 PM
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He will instead tell his beta friends to raise to his level “Betas” get fucked all the time. All their comments drip with vitriol bc they’re mad that women don’t want to charity fuck dweebs, losers, and manchildren. “Betas” have no problem getting pussy, it’s the aforementioned types that have the game messed up. They seem to think pussy should be doled out on merit instead of value. They have no value to women and by extension, society at large, and that’s why they’re mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:30 PM
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All their comments drip with vitriol bc they’re mad that women don’t want to charity fuck dweebs, losers, and manchildren. “Betas” have no problem getting pussy, it’s the aforementioned types that have the game messed up. They seem to think pussy should be doled out on merit instead of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:27 PM
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But what exactly is the friendzoned guy losing if she’s never indicated she likes him more than a friend? Either you value her enough as a person to remain friends or you don’t. If you’re just sticking around only for pussy then you are more dishonest about your friendship than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 06:05 PM
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There are both - but those guys don’t want sluts because sluts aren’t going to care about their nonsense and they don’t like being plated either. They get off on the high of manipulating unsuspecting women, which is what makes them particularly odious and full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:44 PM
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she should tell him frankly that she wants a relationship Don’t you know TRP has all sorts of ways to make a woman think you want a relationship with her when she directly asks that you can weasel your way out of later? “Kick the Can, etc.” I mean it’s alk straight up lies because they know from the jump they don’t want to be with this girl but know they have to lie to get sex in the first place. Friendzoning a guy is not nearly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:42 PM
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What double standard? Did the women pretend she was going to fuck him or did he never make a move or ignore her when she told him they were just friends? Fuckzoning is usually a bunch of goddamn lies upon lies, which is why people have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:39 PM
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It’s not - it’s just that men are liars and more predatory than women overall so you hear about it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:37 PM
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Nah bullsbf - it’s because men have to lie their asses off to my NSA casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:34 PM
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Except men usually have to tell a bold face lie to get a woman to keep having sex with him under no promises of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/18 05:33 PM
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Eventually I realized the man I use to date was an unicorn and I cannot obtain the same level of maturity in other men. It’s very hard to go back once you meet a man like this. They’re really a special breed. If anything - this is what makes an “Alpha” widow. Every man I’ve dated after having a man like that just seems like an immature inarticulate idiot. There’s tons of men with no emotional maturity, complete inability to be introspective, or can’t communicate the basics of what they need. It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/18 05:02 PM
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I mean it doesn’t help that Disney shoving messages like this to women: https://youtu.be/lWtTdRmSrYQ So he’s a bit of a fixer upper. The way to fix up this fixer upper is to fix him up with a woman who is clearly much better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:00 PM
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Wow that sounds dope. Why do white people have to mess up everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 12:59 AM
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Maybe your generation just had embarrassingly low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 10:18 PM
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You’re doing the Lords work. https://media.tenor.com/images/73a0c306cbff81825b3b3c3f43c25131/tenor.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:23 PM
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Yah but they’re clearly not listening so I plan to say it louder and with more contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:18 PM
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Honestly I think it takes care of itself because all these polyamory people strike me as narcissists and attention seekers who don’t care how it effects their kids. Polyamourous relationships are inherently unstable and don’t seem to lead to any more happiness or fulfillment than monogamy, so if it goes bad there’s a lot more collateral damage with multiple people involved. Their children will rebel from their parents chaos and want to practice radical monogamy. People are fundamentally delusion…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:12 PM
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I, Jammerly, volunteer to start telling dudes how fat and unattractive they are to their stupid ugly faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 04:03 PM
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Then it’s because they are just typical teenage girls looking for validation and attention. That part isn’t new - it’s just on a more visible platform. And a woman’s beauty is wrapped up in social power - hotter more attractive women command more social power. Video games do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 02:52 PM
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Those girls are usually advertising products and/or looking for sponsorship. It’s to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 02:43 PM
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Comparison is the thief of joy. And maintaining your looks actually takes a lot genetic luck and harc work so some girls fear losing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 02:37 PM
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Why are people still going on with this narrative that Louis CK were some kind of victims of circumstance? Louis CK was masturbating in his office in full earshot of other employees - as described in the NYT article. He is NOT a hapless victim. That will get you fired anywhere I don’t know why Hollywood men think they deserve exception. I mean I wouldn’t want to hear some guy wanking it in the back at subway come out and make me a sandwich. Aziz is a grabby little creep who was rude af and kept …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 02:06 PM
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Releasing the names of the arrested actually protects the arrestees. It’s to prevent the government from just “disappearing” folks and the cops from abducting people off the streets and charging them with frivolous crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:58 PM
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Louis CK was masturbating in his office in full earshot of other employees - as described in the NYT article. He is NOT a hapless victim. That will get you fired anywhere I don’t know why Hollywood men think they deserve exception. I mean I wouldn’t want to hear some guy wanking it in the back at subway come out and make me a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:54 PM
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I've never heard "I was happy when he took my cash and credit card but I didn't consent to him taking my passport!". Bullshit. You understand how affirmative consent works you’ve been doing this since you were five. Just because someone gave you $5 doesn’t mean you’re entitled to $1000. Considering binge drinking is becoming more and more common among young women I'm not sure that this is true. What’s your point? Not drinking is not a prevention from rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:51 PM
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The universities cover it up because they make a lot of money from college athlete and want to keep their rape stats down. That is in no way beneficial to the victim to sue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:48 PM
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https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/possession-of-stolen-property/ From the link: if the prosecutor can show that it was obvious that a reasonable person would have thought the property was stolen and the accused failed to investigate whether it was stolen or not, he or she can be found guilty of possession of stolen property. Which means you are responsible for doing reasonable due diligence on the legality of your purchase or you can be held criminally liable. Similar to my point - you should ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:43 PM
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If you told the police you got mugged in the above scenario they'd probably advise you in the future to not openly carry valuables in a bad area at midnight and no one would call this "victim blaming." If they used this an excuse to dismiss and not investigate a crime then it would indeed be victim blaming and 2. It’s not comparable to preventing rape, because the answer is to never be around men ever for any lengths of time because if you think there is some are fire way to tell or prevent a se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 01:40 PM
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Not college athletes (which is where most occur) - they’re just as broke as the next student - there’s no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 12:43 AM
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Nope. It is upto the prosecution to prove that you accepted goods that you knew were stolen. If you did not know they were stolen, you are not going to be prosecuted. https://definitions.uslegal.com/p/possession-of-stolen-property/ From your own link: if the prosecutor can show that it was obvious that a reasonable person would have thought the property was stolen and the accused failed to investigate whether it was stolen or not, he or she can be found guilty of possession of stolen property. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/18 12:19 AM
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Because men are in power. Who are MRAs campaigning against? Other men in power to make it more fair for guys with less power? Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:39 PM
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Rape is more akin to theft than murder. If you are found to be in possession of something reported stolen, a car for example, you are still liable even if you didn’t steal it or know it was stolen. It is up to you to prove that you acquired it legally, or were misled by the person who sold it to you. Otherwise you can be held legally responsible civilly or criminally. So yes, there is legal precedence for this. Taking something and then saying “I didn’t know I couldn’t” is a weak defense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:31 PM
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o, the gray area rape can also be a scorned woman getting back at a man who moved onto another girl, or who was only a pump and dump. Which is a clear rarity to the frequency of actual rape. People get away with murder, theft and other crimes. No one argues that we put the burden of proof on the accused and make If you are found to be in possession of something reported stolen, a car for example, you are still liable even if you didn’t steal it or know it was stolen. It is up to you to prove tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:25 PM
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What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:09 PM
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It’s not about blackmailing - it’s about getting rid of all this “grey area” rape, which is a bullshit excuse that means you raped her but just below what she can legally prove. If you feel you need to resort to a contract to prove that what - then so be it. Pro Athletes have women sign NDAs all the time. All this “act first ask questions later” sexually predatory behavior needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 11:02 PM
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They cancelled “the ranch” over the same unsubstantiated bullshit. Danny Masterson has 4 brutal rape accusations against him. Consider that people have been fired from their job for far stupider reasons than that. No one “deserves” employment - everyone is at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:45 PM
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Rape is super rare. I’ve known one person truly raped. No, you don’t only know one person. Only one person had told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:41 PM
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Guilty is in quotes because Aziz Ansari did nothing wrong. Look how he was treated! Disagree. She told him no several times and he was still a granny jackass. Not illegal, but certainly not morally spotless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:39 PM
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Have you seen how they react to rape accusations against athletes? There is still a strong bias against the women everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:38 PM
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Aw, Come off it - if you get robbed on vacation (which happens A LOT) a crime was still committed even if you were walking around with a large purse. It’s never your fault when someone else takes some shit without asking. The issue is the extent to which you can prove it and prevent it. You all need to abandon this idea that women aren’t doing enough to prevent rape and realize men aren’t doing enough to validate consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:36 PM
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I’m not convinced these are all meritless - the truth is men can get away with a great many sexual abuses before it can be classified as rape and there are no perfect victims. This is why I think the man should always be forced to prove consent. Instead of asking the women what they did, ask the man how he verified consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:31 PM
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Most men only think they’re better, and that’s the problem. They think they’re all Michael Jackson but they’re really just Jermaine and their wife is actually Janet even though they treat her like Latoya.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:07 PM
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No one wants to be a servant/slave their whole life. Your marriage is doomed to fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:01 PM
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It doesn’t have to be one person the entirety of your marriage. It should be flexible. Some Men don’t know how to take a backseat without turning whiny needy and incompetent. Chris Rock has a standup special on Netflix - he pretty much accurately describes marriage. Its like band - and sometimes you’re the lead instrument and other times you’re in the back playing the Tambourine. No one wants to be the tambourine player but if you’re handed that shit you better play itz
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 12:55 PM
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doubtful - the only women who put up with that are women who don’t think they can get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:25 AM
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This theory is what feminists are riding on. Basically, in a society where women are not oppressed natural sexual selection would take its course.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:24 AM
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Most people date inside their race or culture
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 03:22 AM
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I’m pretty sure black women have it the worst and white women have it the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:47 AM
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Men miss this important bit of information because their dads were weak and their dad’s were complete assholes which is why the pendulum swung the other way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:46 AM
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But these guys are still marrying their looks match usually - or a woman with similar education.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:39 AM
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Unless you’re black or female of course and then everyone calls the cops on you or says you’re “angry”.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:38 AM
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Why wouldn’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/18 01:22 AM
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Every other plastic surgeon I’ve seen is Indian or Armenian. You have to be insanely smart to get placed in a plastic surgery program.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:48 PM
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Ha! Good luck with LA real estate. It’s a cash based game. This is what I’ve heard recently so if you’re experience as been different, cool for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:47 PM
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Not. http://www.laweekly.com/news/its-hard-out-here-for-an-entrepreneur-5523894 China and India make sense because that’s where a lot of people source from, but from what I hear from my friends in LA, there are too many operating regulations for their liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:41 PM
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Yes but they’re old and foreign.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:37 PM
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You never know on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:33 PM
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The Bay Area - where the startups are and entrepreneurs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:26 PM
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It seems weird that people wouldn’t date because they’re afraid of being sued. Is that a common thing for it to really be a legitimate fear?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:29 PM
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I’ve traveled to and spent some time working in LA. My observation was the black men don’t date black women and are not particularly ambitious because if they were, they’d leave LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:26 PM
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Ha! If I could will myself to be gay I’d be off PPD tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:19 PM
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Single mothers are already having to deal with their problems. Alone, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:15 PM
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I’m pretty sure any married woman would have a problem with the tinder but I’m guessing the last part is sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:14 PM
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A lot of guys create argumentative women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:12 PM
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The average age of first marriage is up at 28. You want a girl who doesn’t realize she likes to fuck until 28?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 08:28 AM
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It all depends on the expectations you have for your wife. If you’re looking for a live in mommy figure who’s endlessly impressed by everything you do, and basically caters to you domestically you’re going to struggle finding women worth committing to - unless you are wealthy enough to attract that kind of woman. Wealthy men can afford submissive wives - the rest of you should seek partnerships. If you’re looking for a partner to help you build something or make your lives mutually better then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 07:15 AM
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Being pleasant is different from this domestic servant expectation a lot of you have for women. Cooks, cleans, pretends to be impressed with your mediocrity and boring sex for 40 years while she supports your goals and interests ahead of hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 07:08 AM
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The solution is to marry someone in your tax bracket. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 07:02 AM
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What if you’re argumentative? It’s all the most argumentative guys with “problems” with argumentative women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 07:00 AM
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No it’s not - you can be submissive and sweet all you want just to get a ring but that shit isn’t sustainable because no one wants to be a damn servant all their life. This is why you all get divorced - you think you found that girl and you can relax but you’re on borrowed time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 06:59 AM
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https://youtu.be/DT2X5b0tyDI
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 04:02 AM
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They’re both paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:57 AM
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Ew - is she mad ugly? Because I don’t know why anyone in their 30s dates an old ass man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 03:57 AM
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And here I was thinking that men don’t believe in fairytale endings
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:43 AM
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I mean - if men and women’s werent fundamentally different would there be a need for the red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 01:14 AM
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Wrap it up or don’t bitch. Sex is intended to make babies in case you’ve forgotten. The fact that casual sex is more accepted doesn’t change this. Tell the truth and shame the devil! http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/praise-god-gif-7.gif Too many men think abortion is soooo easy! Spoiler alert it isn’t! Right?! They think we’re just supposed to skip to the abortion clinic and moonwalk past the protesters calling us murders and baby killers holding pictures of mangled fetuses like it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 05:46 PM
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I thought femcels didn’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 05:31 PM
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LOL no one here thinks I’m Blue Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:41 PM
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Testify! https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JdXL89Gl6DcNsdi/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:28 PM
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Absolutely no one is stopping boys from doing or being anything in society. They aren’t being given roles -they’re taking them through hard work and sacrifice and being fastidious, and providing results. You just assume everyone’s a diversity hire because then you can justify you’re own mediocrity. https://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/science-says-woman-in-business-outperform-men.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/20/young-women-are-better-than-men-at-adulting-in-every-way-except-one.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:25 PM
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Lol the lies. Men are childish as fuck everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:19 PM
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Yeah immigrants to the US seem to work harder in general - but their general attitudes toward women leave much to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:12 PM
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It’s a lifetime of lived experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 02:09 PM
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Here’s a cookie. 🍪
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:52 AM
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I don’t have ill feelings on them for being poor - I have ill feelings because of the sexism and shirking of responsibility in general. I know women who spend their whole lives busting their ass trying to “keep a man” no matter how shitty he is to them because society says it’s their place to put up with that. They men suck at life so they spend all their time strategizing how to be a cancer to the women in their lives so they can feel a little bit of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:44 AM
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Yeah sounds like they’re lazy AF. But then it should make it easier on you to maintain their respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:41 AM
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Most men aren’t ready to get married in undergrad and depending how quickly they went to grad school won’t be ready then either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:38 AM
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Was your ex wife Hispanic or white?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 12:36 AM
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In some respects - but obviously much less than places like Saudi Arabia.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:17 PM
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What about people who aren’t married, who are the majority of single moms? The fathers just walk away without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:15 PM
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I can agree with this - but it is largely because women expect men to be better than us. We do not respect men who can’t do for us what we can do for ourselves or who can’t work as hard. Mother Nature gave us the harder and more important job of continuing the species. You need to make up the difference in value in other ways. If you’re not able to be better than us at anything and you can’t push out babies, why would we respect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:14 PM
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Because we are then made to be dependent on men for basic survival which means that “choice” is made under duress and not based on true merit. We have to vastly lower our standards to meet basic needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:10 PM
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It does - but that presumes women have the economic power to do so. My general thoughts are that men are as good as women can economically force them to be. If we have no economic power, we have low ability to “choose”.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 09:05 PM
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I mean they don’t make conscious effort to expand their horizons and experiences. They pick a routine and a team and never venture out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:57 PM
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Ha! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:54 PM
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I think those women have low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:54 PM
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I’m Purple and I’m Team Woman. This is why it’s called Purple Pill Debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:51 PM
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Or is it just a study group that you’re calling “orbiters”. Because I’ve definitely seen fraternity bros who suck at certain things leech of their smarter peers via “study groups”. Not a female thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:48 PM
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I’m very smart and very pretty which is why despite my background I was able to find success. Not everyone is smart or pretty. So I don’t think so. And saving money is very very very hard when you’re poor. The system nickels and dimes and penalizes poor people all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:40 PM
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No - Absentee Fathers have destroyed the black community. Again, the men have the money and the power and they are using it to create chaos. And white supremacy is real. Do you think in any way shape or form a black man with three baby mammas an a history of molesting women would get to be President? Hell to the naw. The standards are different - blacks have to be twice as spotless. Black people are still working on being able to do normal everyday activities without white people calling the cop…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:37 PM
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Mother Nature gave us the harder and more important job of continuing the species. You need to make up the difference in value in other ways. If you’re not able to be better than us at anything and you can’t push out babies, why would we respect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:33 PM
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No white supremacy and the purposeful devaluation and destruction of black people is the largest problem. Tough to teach a whole group of women to value themselves enough to expect more from their lives when the entire world constantly tells them they shouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:28 PM
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Women, particularly black women, have the least amount of economic and social power in society, period. Men want to lay the responsibility and blame at the people with the least power to change things. Women should vet men better - but it is impossible for men to expect us to police all their behavior as individuals or read the future. Feminism attempts to enforce male growth through collective efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:24 PM
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Why is it “single motherhood” is the problem and not “Absentee Fathers”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:15 PM
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Absent fathers are garbage parents. They criticize women in the arena fighting while standing outside the stadium. How pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:12 PM
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I’m pretty sure we’d just abort you if things got that bad. You can’t force us to feed or carry you to term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:11 PM
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No - I just enjoy debate and having my viewpoints challenged and developing coherent arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:02 PM
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I am also similarly accomplished - and it’s easy to forget that most of the world is not like that when you’re in a UMC bubble. I grew up poor and I still have ties to that community - it is a constant reminder that all is not well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 08:01 PM
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No it makes her female - we’re on average smaller, less physically powerful, and prone to hormonal instability. Doesn’t make us losers - because a woman can always maximize her own potential, even if it less than a man’s. There is no good goddamn reason women should outperform you. You ought to be able to meet her output level at least unless he somehow has a fetish for puny weaklings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:58 PM
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Which you need to prove your value to be able to do in the first place. Blame evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:54 PM
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Which is caused by a Broken father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:51 PM
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Fair enough - but women already know that. The problem is the lie they tell to get to the “pump” part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:50 PM
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No - the solution is simple - never be working less hard, at anything, than the women in your lives. If you’re a grown man being outworked by the women in your lives - you will never earn their respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:48 PM
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His audience is like 90% men. They are making him their hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:45 PM
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LOL what?!! Academic institutions were established by boys, for boys. White academic institutions were designed by whites, for whites. You’re losing grip on your dominance because you’re being outcompeted by women and minorities - not because it was intended for either of those groups. As per usual, when you start losing by your own metrics you want to rewrite history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:44 PM
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I literally LOL’d. Pahahaha. Some slaves fight to stay on the plantation. Hopefully she doesn’t learn about men the hard way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:40 PM
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Women are actually overresponsible, if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:36 PM
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If your wife divorces you - you have failed to be of more value to her then she is without you. It should not be that men make it easier to just go it alone than try and make it work with the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:34 PM
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Yeah just be lazy and depressed. That’s the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:32 PM
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I’ve traveled and lived all over the country - can’t speak for Europe but I’m pretty well versed on the ol’ US of A
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:31 PM
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Parenting was always supposed to be a two parent job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:27 PM
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Which is still the fault and responsibility of weak men. I never said women were superior - just less pathetic than the others men are who are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:24 PM
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This is a macro discussion about the state of men - not individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:20 PM
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These women are depending on that money because the men responsible for those children failed to provide for them. Children require two parents in most cases and men are shirking responsibility. Start telling deadbeat dads to pay for their kids, Still a failure of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:18 PM
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But don’t you think that’s exactlywhat contributing to their epidemic levels of depression? They’re not able to cope with the struggles of life. This is why Jordan Peterson is seriously catching fire telling men basic things like “grow up.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:15 PM
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LOL - competent men have to get women to qualify them. You cannot be competent or be a leader without it anymore. And Broken Men are most often raised by Broken Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 07:13 PM
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That’s so not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:55 PM
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Indicative of the dearth of men worth committing to and who embrace responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:45 PM
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Generally a lot more responsible and focused than what I see from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:41 PM
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The talented 10th checking in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:36 PM
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Transwomen are not competition to cis-women, end of discussion. The vast majority look like grown ass men and will never have kids. Literally no one is threatened by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 02:09 PM
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Why do you think men on their paygrade automatically treat them well? Newsflash - ugly broke men are just as big of assholes as attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:33 AM
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No - prostitutes exist everywhere and it’s very easy and accessible with the internet. He can pay for the experience he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:28 AM
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Incels have the power to choose their own sexual experience and tailor it to their liking, they choose not to - so this is absolutely equivalent. And lowest tier women don’t get to choose often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 06:15 AM
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The point is they can’t get caring men. The guys willing to fuck with them are sexual deviants. This comparison does not make sense to me, a lot of incels are not poor. If they’re not poor, then they can get sex. Hell - homeless people fuck too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:51 AM
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It’s not - for the reasons I outline here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8uzsqg/would_you_rather_be_a_male_incel_or_a_female_who/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:48 AM
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Lowest tier for both economic and sexual scale. They might find better sex but most of it will be terrible to traumatic before they can find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:47 AM
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No - it’s because bad sex is traumatic. I mean it’s seriously violating in a way that men downplay, but bad sex can fuck with you physically, mentally, and emotionally for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:22 AM
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They should care - but I don’t get the seething rageful jealousy at women for being able to get more sex when a lot of it is traumatic, dehumanizing, and degrading. If a guy just drops off some cum and leaves you bruised up and treats you like you’re not even a person it’s like you just got shit on. It’s absolutely worse than having no sex at all. Honestly if women had a choice between the two I think most of us would choose being an incel over bad traumatic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 05:09 AM
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You realize that bad sex for women is actually painful and downright traumatizing sometimes right? You’re asking us why we don’t think it’s a privilege to be stabbed in our cervix until we bowl over crying with pain?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:41 AM
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I bet these women weigh the same amount it’s just that some women carry fat in more attractive places. Some women have all stomach and back fat and no ass or tits, so they’re going to look fatter than they are by comparison to women who carry it in their breasts, hips and ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:17 AM
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Only if they’re curvy fat. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/c6/c9/4fc6c9103f6d3751a6ac1246c5c6580e.jpg Not weird misshapen fat. https://www.cataloguemagazine.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/fat1-222962.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:10 AM
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Contrary to popular belief - ugly or fat women can’t just bed any guy they want. Also contrary to popular belief - ugly guys arent necessarily nice or virtuous partners. In fact they may be bigger assholes from being teased a lot - so you take a low self esteem woman and an ugly asshole and it’s a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:06 AM
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So ugly women get to lol forward to a life of being ignored by most people and treated like bottom feeding whores? Well la di da.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 04:01 AM
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Nah even the ugliest women can find some guy to fuck if she really wants. Barring some extreme physical deformities the bottom for Women in terms of attractiveness to Heterosexual Men still seems a lot higher than the bottom for Men. That’s debatable. Women do have more options to make themselves attractive. The ugliest women tend to get plastic surgery. Women need to be attractive to succeed at most things in life but men don’t. Lena Dunham/ Rosie oddonnell/Rosie Perez/Sarah Jessica Parker/Magg…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:57 AM
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Men definitely have standards - see above post. They just straight up ignore the existence of ugly women like they don’t exist so they can claim victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:44 AM
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This is all a bunch of projection and I said noting about petite, I’m taking about average, ugly, or overweight like I s There are plenty of average in the face women that are skinnny but that men don’t lust over. That girl you posted is objectively attractive. There are plenty of girls like Lena Dunham/ Rosie oddonnell/Rosie Perez who can starve themselves until the cows come home but their face is fug and they have hard features and/or they’re shaped weird. You guys like to pretend women like …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:41 AM
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It’s weird how they only fixate their rage on attractive women Plenty of average, ugly, fat, and unkempt women that inspire lust from no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/18 03:13 AM
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I’m finding it amusing/confusing how I can come across so differently to so many people. But for the record, I consider myself purple.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:27 AM
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I’m finding it amusing/confusing how I can come across so differently to so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:24 AM
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No he’s just bad at understanding graphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:43 PM
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Millennial s would have been in 16-24 age range during the 2008 financial crisis. Notice how much bigger that unemployment spike is from everybody else. And this doesn’t even account for underemployment. Can’t feed a family on a McDonald’s salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 10:35 PM
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The men don’t have jobs either and unless you plan on living in hopes and dreams that’s kind of important.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 09:39 PM
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They just aren’t as loud and obnoxious about it. Chaz Bono transitioned to male more than a decade ago and there was nowhere near this entitlement or hullabaloo. She just did it and fell in with the men as best she could. Transwomen want attention and special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:12 PM
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What you’re really saying here is that men should be divided into a strict status hierarchy from admirable, high-achieving men to the "useless" and "destructive" men, regarded and treated accordingly throughout society. No I’m not - I’m saying everyone is an individual. Our society is structured in such a way that men are given chance after chance to fail at leadership and fuck up and not have it be reflective of their gender as a whole. Meanwhile - women have been greatly restricted under threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:10 PM
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There is a transwoman on this sub who seriously wanted to FaceTime me to prove “she” was more feminine and beautiful and that guys would pick her to have sex over me. They really think they can bully their way into femininity by throwing on a bunch of over the top sexy female dresses and makeup and then trying to outcompete real women at being women, which is a totally male thing to do, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:52 PM
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The hands is what always gives it away. His hands are huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:45 PM
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Because women is the term for female humans. Transwomen are not female. They’re males with feminine gender dysphoria.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:43 PM
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You are clearly clueless because there were a ton of Engineers out of work as well as lawyers. Especially after 9/11. It’s so common there are whole blogs dedicated to people in these fields who were underemployed during their 20s. It wasn’t just “bullshit degrees”. The finance and accounting fields took a huge hit and those jobs are supposedly recession proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:58 PM
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I didn’t say it was hard to look for work- I just said that it was hard to find stable employment for most millenials right out of college - we graduated right into the financial crisis and not a damn person was hiring. You all keep spinning this narrative that the reason millenials aren’t having kids or getting married as young as boomers is because we’re all somehow selfish and self indulgent but you couldn’t just waltz out and get a job out of high school like our parents did. And the lie we …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:40 PM
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Trumps been in office barely over a year and is largely benefititing from Obama era policies that are picking up speed. Not to mention millenials have epic levels of student debt to pay before you can even think about recreational activities. Miss me with your conservative nonsense - because the second we can’t take care of all these babies we’re supposed to have you’ll be on Fox News talking about how we’re a drain on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:11 PM
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Who said it had to be “interesting”? Most millenials were struggling to find a job, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:49 PM
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What are you taking about? You should just pop out kids when you’re not financially stable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:46 PM
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Because you can’t support yourself in college and sometimes shortly after that. You’re still moving trying to find the right job for you and have no permanency in your life yet. It’s nlt good for marriage and children, not to mention a lot of men want to “play the field” at that age and aren’t interested in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:20 PM
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Or a lot of us didn’t have our lives together on our early 20s to start having kids. Society is making it really hard for millenials.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:16 PM
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Oh well? For every single mom there’s some shit man with no interest in taking care of his kids. Or is a bad influence in general. You want women to police male behavior and we can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:14 PM
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What about women not getting affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:09 PM
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Strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:09 PM
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Yeah I think In a healthy relationship dynamic this is what happens most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:08 PM
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This is interesting - thanks for the insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:34 PM
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Yeah I can see this being the case. Women just don’t like to have to parent their husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:32 PM
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She’s trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:25 PM
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Because you all like to claim all the victories of the best men while ignoring how utterly destructive and/or useless most men are and declare you’re “better”. And if your had to get where you are by forcibly and legally limiting women are your “better” or just bigger? It too often feels like you have to treat men like overgrown children who got a hold of a dangerous weapon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:20 PM
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M to F trans are mostly mental and think they can compete for feminity. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/8ufdka/witholding_sex_in_a_relationship/e1fcocs/
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:37 AM
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LOL - it’s not a competition. You think just like a man does about femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:33 AM
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Having a dress and makeup on doesn’t make you female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:30 AM
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If she’d rather lose a super comfortable lifestyle than have sex with you, you might want to examine yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:29 AM
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Guess how I know you’re a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:28 AM
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The thing is you can make a strategy all you want some men just straight up ignore shit and expect it to work out somehow without a plan. Or they don’t stick to it. Imagine trying to negotiate chores with an overgrown child.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:21 AM
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Stop blaming feminism - the evidence of how shit men are at leadership is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 06:17 AM
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I mean, I guess - but eventually someone’s going to have to get on their hands and knees and scrub the toilet and if your wife is doing it for the eleventy- seventh time instead of you, no amount of “dread game” is going to make her less pissed about that. And if you’re responding by being more selfish and unromantic she might pick up the slack for awhile but you’re on borrowed time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:33 AM
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But usually it’s not one particular thing that’s a dealbreaker - it’s a collection of things you think you can deal with and the one day you realize you loaded on one too many straws for the camels back and then it all breaks down. Drastic measures need to be taken then - and withholding sex might be the only thing that gives him a wake up call.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:29 AM
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I don’t know? Seems fairly common - hence the existence of all these pillspheres.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:19 AM
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Oh for sure - if I get to the point where I’m seriously not sexually into them because of what they’re doing, I bounce. Way before that actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:14 AM
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Yeah I’m not advocating this - I’m just trying to find out what exactly men expect women to do when they’re at their wits end or totally resentful of their husband to the point where it effects their sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:11 AM
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For me? Of course. But I still am connected to the community I grew up in so I can never really forget the life I could have had and am grateful I don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:08 AM
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“Fair share” is a man with a regular paycheck who doesn’t beat or cheat on you that much in some parts of the country. You can Forget expecting any modicum of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:03 AM
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LOL nah. We live in a Patriarchy. Men have the power and it is therefore their responsibility to create function from that power, not chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 04:01 AM
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Everyone here is mostly MC and UMC, but I grew up poor and worked my way up. I’m telling y’all the relationship rules and expectations are different for the working class. Goes Double for the religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:58 AM
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‘K. You done?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:50 AM
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This post isn’t even about me sorry to disappoint. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:49 AM
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yes, you have to keep escalating prizes to keep him engaged. would you work more hours if you was paid the same regardless? would it not be abuse if your boss forced you to do it anyway? This sets up a very one sided dynamic where the woman always has to treat him like a child or employee though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:49 AM
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Lucky for you. Some of us had to learn at school of hard knocks. But let’s just say some demographics are more prone to have shit tier men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:46 AM
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A lot of people race down the aisle and me think the marriage means she’s locked down and now it’s time to do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:36 AM
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This seems fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:35 AM
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The idea is that neither of you want it to get to that point, so what do you do? She can’t have sex with you and expect you to act right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:35 AM
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They’re numerous and hard to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:31 AM
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Yeah the way they hamster and project to ignore what you’re directly telling them always amazes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:26 AM
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So, as per usual, you have no answer or point and need some ammunition for a personal attack. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:24 AM
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No one said that so I don’t know why you keep arguing against points I didn’t make. You’re the king of straw man arguments and lack of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:22 AM
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Divorce might be a harder option at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:22 AM
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Then you’d all be in here crying about being “divorce raped”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:19 AM
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The problem is it’s a race to the bottom. If you pull dread game tactics, why shouldn’t she? I mean, can she just tell you or imply she wants to fuck men who are cleaner than you to make you clean up after yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:17 AM
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You’re not entitled to sex - if she’s not fucking you, you’re not attractive. She shouldn’t have to force herself to deal with your nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:15 AM
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If she says/acts like she’s thinking about sexing someone who annoys her less than you, is that dread game? I don’t see how that’s better than just not having sex and hoping he meets you half way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:14 AM
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I guess the answer is for her in this scenario to start fucking a guy who pisses her off less behind your back so she doesn’t have as much time or energy for your nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:13 AM
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I agree - but you have to keep your insecurity in check and a lot of men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:10 AM
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I expect you to be a grown women, and you have a functioning mouth, if you Bruh, Women do this ALLLLL THE FREAKING TIME, but you all just hear “nagging” and then it goes on one ear and out the other. clearly and reinforce with positive reinforcement to take away their happiness, even for their own good, without their consent is just abuse and corrotes a relationship. If you give a man too much he only gets entitled and lazy. There has to get a balance. IME men only learn through loss. Any positi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:09 AM
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But isn’t that most men? They think “mommy” is coming to take care of them but don’t seem to realize that they’re not children anymore and it can’t be one sided. Or he decides that since you’re being so nice to him, that must mean he’s above you and he thinks he can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 03:03 AM
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I guess it depends. I think you go in with positive reinforcement of her eating healthy, build in time for her to exercise. But if she doesn’t respond and just got so sloppy fat that you’ve lost attraction to her you’d probably have to be blunt with her about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:55 AM
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Aka positive reinforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:53 AM
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Is lack of sexual desire for your partner a sign that things are irreparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:49 AM
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Doesn’t TRP say to withhold attention/affection from your wife during dread game?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:47 AM
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Because you all want hotter wives than you probably realistically deserve. And you want wives with low n counts. And you want wives who are comfortable with a submissive dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:43 AM
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It strikes me that there are more constructive ways to deal with conflict than going nuclear like this. Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:39 AM
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But how do you tie your sex life to specific rewardable behavior? And to what extent is the wife responsible for “training” him into doing the basics? I feel like men get to be kids forever and women have to decide all these complicated strategies to push them into adulthood responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:38 AM
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I wouldn’t suggest withholding it outright, but the problem is men only learn through loss. So he will keep letting the little things pile up until they are BIG things and then she’ll get to the point where she just doesn’t want to do it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:32 AM
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In my experience, constantly catering to men just makes them more entitled and possibly lazier. It doesn’t motivate them to do better, only loss does. He doesn’t see you being a good wife/girlfriend and suddenly get inspired not to be an ass. That’s fairytales.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:30 AM
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That would be the least mature thing to do and validate to her that you’re an ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:27 AM
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I mean it’s just dread game for women basically. If this is abuse, then all of TRP is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:26 AM
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Because usually when people get married they try and work through issues like this and only use divorce as a last ditch effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:24 AM
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From what I understand, respect is a big part of sexual attraction for women, so naturally the woman will be turned off. It's a dichotomy, because women think they want a husband that worships the ground they walk on, but their lizard brain is disgusted by that kind of man. Actually I think we want both. You can be a man people respect and also worship the ground your wife walks on. Obama and John Krasinski come to mind as men who people respect but they also dote on their wives publicly quite a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:22 AM
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They probably need to make some sacrifices on both their ends to free their time up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:19 AM
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He just takes every opportunity to take shots st me because I hurt his fee fees a whole back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:18 AM
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I’m not trying to trivialize it - I’m just making the pretty logical argument that if you’re regularly pissing your wife off then her response is probably going to be to stop having sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:17 AM
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Isn’t this just dread game for women? If You don’t like what he’s doing, stop fucking him until he shapes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:16 AM
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I feel like it’s a cop out to just throw your hands up and say women are “impossible to please” because I most often see men slack on the simple stuff. Not to mention, they stop being romantic because they feel they don’t have to. They make it seem like doing the basics is a huge effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:13 AM
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Yeah I guess it would be more of a question for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:08 AM
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Friends talk about sex, you lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 01:42 AM
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If you talk to women just for sexual purposes, it comes across that way. These guys actually pull off being genuine friends
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:18 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with being happy for yourself but it’s a whole other thing to be doling our advice and shade at other women like you’re some kind of relationship expert now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:10 PM
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Most guys aren’t upfront and 2. If you have absolutely no women in your life that you respect then yes that’s midogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:09 PM
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I think the misogyny was there before the sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:45 PM
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There’s lots of girls who aren’t sluts at all - and there are some sluts with hearts of gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:33 PM
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A lot of women are not taught how to have self value - and so they need a man to validate their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:32 PM
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Those guys really are the best. They get women becuase they talk to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:29 PM
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Shiiiiiit ...then all TERPS should understand completely how I feel because the evidence of men being scum in general is so plentiful you can’t help but trip over it everywhere you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:28 PM
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That’s just because men can’t tell fake good girls from real ones. And nudes don’t make you “not good” especially if you’re in a LTR with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:25 PM
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You can’t control what men or other women do and not everyone wants to live like an uptight virgin to force someone down the aisle. I don’t think men want to get married early in their life either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:20 PM
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I’m happy when I see these marriages
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:18 PM
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Is it better to live with someone you don’t like or have a little less money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:13 PM
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It’s not - but it’s weird to be bragging about your marriage and trying to act better than everyone else when your man is average at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 01:12 PM
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What “status” though? I actually think I’m happier than a lot of my married friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 06:31 AM
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I’m assuming anyone who makes 50K+
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:22 AM
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I guess - I think you can raise one kid on a middle class single person salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:14 AM
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Wouldn’t it be easier to just get a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 05:11 AM
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No, it’s patriarchy. Women are taught their value is dependent on their ability to “keep a man”, and in some societies they are literally unable to survive without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:47 AM
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Patriarchy necessitates it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:35 AM
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Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:33 AM
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No it’s abusive to be in a relationship solely because you can control and belittle them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:27 AM
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I honestly wish I had been sluttier when I was younger and tried to trap an athlete or something. Being chaste is legit one of my biggest regrets. The biggest hoes I know all married well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:18 AM
1

What if you get men but just don’t give a fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:14 AM
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MEN. SUCK. AT. SEXUALLY. AND. EMOTIONALLY. PLEASING. WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:08 AM
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I used to date guys who were obviously less attractive than me because I was insecure but then I realized how massively fucked up it is to get into a relationship with the expectation that you’re doing that person a favor by being there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:07 AM
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That’s...borderline abusive. This is the part of the Cinderella fairytale that nobody talks about. Everytime Cindy expresses any displeasure the Prince tells her she should be grateful he picked her up out of the gutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:06 AM
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Yeah but the bottom barrel of men is pretty low, to the point where most men are a liability. It’s not like there is an abundance of decent options. The lowest 20% is pretty shit. Bad choice in men and you might end up pregnant & alone or dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:45 PM
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Do women actually have higher expectations of men? Because I’ve seen guys who don’t even bathe regularly get girlfriends. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 11:29 PM
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Men who watch a lot of porn are the same way though. Totally unrealistic about how women’s bodies should look or how their married sex love should be. And I would argue that is so, so, so, much more pervasive than women you’ve described in your scenario and that porn ruins a lot more marriages. It’s hilarious to me that men are sooooo insecure about this considering all the ways in which women are expected to accommodate men and get over the fact that men can click a button and see a girl who’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:27 PM
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I’m pretty solidly purple - like I’ve always said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 02:23 AM
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They formal medical term for it is “Gender Dysphoria” and it is no longer considered a mental illness. But Body Dysmorphia is a mental illness. I don’t understand the world we live in now. I’m old and I’m scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:41 AM
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Breh transwomen are such a glitch in the matrix and none of it makes sense. My argument is - if people can’t “choose” their sexuality - why are trans so desperate to make straight cisgendered people choose them? I’m atttacted to straight cisgendered males and I was born this way. I’ve known since I was young. I’m tired of trans people trying to shame me from accepting my truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:38 AM
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Post modernism is the greatest gift of the 20th century IMO. It’s a double edged sword because it’s been so effective that it’s main ideas have been adopted into the mainstream, but now everyone needs to keep their jobs so instead of arguing real issues, they’re hashing out pointless semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:31 AM
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Transwomen take all their male entitlement into female spaces and try to bully women into bullying men into having sex with them. What a time to be alive.,
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:29 AM
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Even trans people don’t really want to date other trans people. They want cisgender people only, which is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:23 AM
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Why would I think she’s not really sexually attracted to him? It’s not like she can’t be sexually attracted to him and the guitarist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:20 AM
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I really think there are some women who are so desperate for male attention that they’ll pretend to be sexual freaks of any kind as long it makes men think they’re cool and adventurous. I hate “feminists” like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:19 AM
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Feminists and LGBQs are pretty damn split when it comes to transwomen. I’m really not sure when/why a tiny piece of the population got to take up so much space in the media.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:17 AM
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What exactly would I “warn” him about? She’s had sex with other guys in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:11 AM
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Then like I said in my first scenario -if you are an insecure person then don’t work backwards at all. Only deal with new people who haven’t rejected you in the past. That’s not something anyone is obligated to “warn” you about because it’s entirely an issue of how secure you feel, and no one can make that assessment for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 01:02 AM
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Of all the things I assess a woman’s fitness as a wife on, her wanting to have sex with someone hotter would not be one of them. Its ridiculous for any man to be that insecure. I mean, should I reject every guy who’s ever looked at porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:56 AM
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I mean you never want to be in a “Great Gatsby” situation, where you need her as some kind of proof of your own worth. But you only want women who were never sexually attracted to someone hotter than you? Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:51 AM
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Her having been with hotter guys before him doesn’t mean anything to me. Peoples needs/ wants change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:48 AM
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It would really depend on the woman - but in general my feeling is never work backwards. Leave the past behind. If she rejected you before - unless she has some extenuating personal issues that would make it make sense for her not to want to be involved with anyone at all at the time, then I wouldn’t bother. I would say this to women regarding men who’ve rejected them too. The other thing would just be her general attitude and entitlement level. My brothers have had girlfriends that met me and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:43 AM
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All of this 👍🏽 The order goes good sex -> no sex -> bad sex. The gospel truth. 🙌🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 09:49 PM
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It really has to do with dedicated time. Women just typically aren’t spending hours in dark basements learning strategy. The obsessive dedication to a single skill takes borderline anticsocial behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 05:27 PM
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nobody gives about who you are, nobody cares what you say, nobody cares what you do, and nobody gives a fuck what you think. What you and other snowflakes call oppression is just Saturday for men. This is literally how most women experience the world and reason feminists fight for fair representation. A bunch of middle aged men got together in all facets of society and dictated to us what our place is. The priests said God made women inferior. The psychologists said women who don’t act the way m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:40 PM
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But you’ve always had them, so there’s no change there. And women have been much more objectified and targeted as consumers due to patriarchy — advertising is constantly telling us there is something wrong with our lives and bodies and creating insecurities to sell some new products.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:22 PM
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If everyone had to be truthful and transparent about their intentions in sexual relations, who do you think would stand to lose more - men, or women? Almost entirely men because I’m pretty sure women would be extremely disgusted at the reality of the average man. And most women have so very little to gain in her life from the average man that there’s no reason to lie to you. How do you think men would treat women if they knew ahead of time they werent getting laid? Terribly - which is why I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:19 PM
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Women are not “taught” this at all. I have never seen any women’s movement even in the far reaches of the internet as dedicated to making men’s lives miserable as TRP. The extent that “manipulative” behavior is encouraged in women is because we have historically had absolutely no other power available in society. No economic power, little social power, very little political power. You have almost no other means to get what you need for basic survival than to go through a man and convince him to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:09 PM
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No it’s not illegal - but if women could sue you for misrepresenting your position, you’d be a lot more likely to tell the truth. You’re exploiting that there’s no recourse for most lies or abusive male behavior. Some of you all live your entire lives acting like sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 10:56 PM
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I’d argue it’s the paradox of choice which generally makes people unhappier with their life - and the inability to sustain a family on a single income. But then again it depends on which women you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 10:53 PM
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Just based on what you have written here, "when the truth is all men are capable and prone to selfishness and cruelty toward women and are only restricted in so far as women have enough economic power to prevent them from doing so," sounds like a rehash of the victimhood narrative. Doesn’t make it any less true or real. The freedoms women enjoy in society are precarious. There's a difference between feminism and actual victims, like the jews, and here it is: No, the difference is that Jews have …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 10:51 PM
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You are highly risk averse, confrontational and you believe the narrative you have within your own head despite a considerable amount of evidence its unlikely this path through life will bring you happiness. The paths that most of these women are taking arenot leading them to happiness either - thus the divorce rate and women’s unwillingness to remarry afterward. I at least get to maintain my freedom and autonomy. take your hands off the wheel and choose a good man." More or less RPW could artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:42 PM
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Because women who men want to have sex with have options, and you’re scared you’re not good enough to be her most desirable option. That’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:35 PM
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Of course there are, wow, leave your little white bubble once in a while and look around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:17 PM
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If the sex is garbage, stop fucking men who are useless at sex? If only they came with a sign. As for the porn, 50 Shades of Grey female porn watchers obsession with James Deen, rough sex and gang fucking sort of gives away the secret, doesn't it? James Deen the rapist? The one publicly disavowed by just about everyone. And that is such a small segment of female sexuality but I’m not surprised that’s the only one you all want to pay attention to. It’s always has to be filtered through the male g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:14 PM
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LOL if you think white people aren’t engaging in the same low class nonsense all over the country, I have news for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 09:08 PM
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If all the sex is garbage, and all the porn is based on the male imperative, and if all the sexual advertising and messaging in the media cater to male sexuality, and society punishes women who are perceived to be promiscuous, do we really have control?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 08:37 PM
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"Control" of the sexual marketplace? You mean bodily autonomy? That is not "control".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 08:25 PM
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I’ve been to Portland - lol hipster central.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:55 PM
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TRP encourages sociopathic and dehumanizing behavior toward women. That’s hardly rare in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:43 PM
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TRP is literally encouraging and teaching men to do this, and therefore responsible for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:36 PM
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We actually have consumer protection laws and people actually sue and win large sums of money for false or misleading advertisement. TRP thrives on the fact that women have very little legal recourse for all but the most heinous sexual abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:22 PM
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she would have to be extremely naive and inexperienced to not know exactly what's going on. every other woman has the complete freedom to say "nope" and bounce (and some do) but a lot of women allow themselves to be strung along. do women have agency? The only way to bat 100% with this is to become an extreme cynic and believe upfront that all men are complete lying scum. I explain to you all why I think all the time, however most women don’t think that way, and tend to think men are more or les…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 07:19 PM
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I could probably write a book, tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 06:12 PM
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Women are required to be attractive to men to survive because men have most of the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 06:00 PM
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Sure you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:47 PM
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WHAT
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:46 PM
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Obviously. It teaches them to be liars and purposefully mislead and subvert women’s expectations to take advantage of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:38 PM
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I don’t know - androgyny has always been attractive to women from what I can tell. And a lot of gay men look very physically masculine, they’re just groomed better. They focus on having low body fat and a muscular physique. In general, gay men set the fashion and grooming trends years before straight men pick it up. If you look at gay men’s magazines - those guys have amazing bodies and are super hot. It’s just the gay ass poses they do that turn women off lol. https://covers.magazinecloner.com/…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:23 PM
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I have traveled all over this great country, and on average women put waaaaayyyy more effort into their appearance than men. I’ve gone to some High End high net worth Parties. - the kind where every woman has had plastic surgery to look like a perfect blow up doll and half the guys are bloated and haggard from drugs and drink and not at all in shape. If straight men put as much effort into their appearance they’d look more like gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:10 PM
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I don’t focus on building big biceps at the gym - but if I had too, you never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:05 PM
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A very small pocket of men are actually better, and The rest of you are a crapshoot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:03 PM
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Omg - have you been to the Midwest or south? There are cities where every other guy is a fat slob. Chris Rock voice - “Waddlin’ & lookin’ like a beached Walrus.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:42 PM
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They’ll be a lot closer to your ideal than vice versa, considering porn is structured around male pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:30 PM
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For every one genius male on the planet, there are like hundreds of millions of you that are sociopathic and destructive, and another hundreds of millions who don’t posess any unique skills or intellectual ability beyond your average woman, and another hundred million that just breathe air. The degree to which your athleticism trumps women’s is large, but not so large as to be insurmountable. Consider the worlds fastest man, Usain Bolt, is only half a second faster than the world’s fastest woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:26 PM
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I’m not white.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 03:13 PM
1

The LOC method helped with my frizz considerably. Basically you have to seal moisture in your hair after washing, and then create a barrier between the humidity and your hair shaft. https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/kinky-hair-type-4a/loc-method-the-routine-every-curly-should-know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:45 PM
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Men’s ability to sleep with multiple women without commitment usually involves some element of lying. If some woman comes forward with a sob story about being misled and pumped and dumped, we’d basically enforce swift social consequences. It would be the #metoo movement on a perpetual feedback loop to police male behavior. The overall standards in which you are expected to behave to engage sexually with women would be higher. Dread game would work only so far because we’d impose limits. For exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:36 PM
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This is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:27 PM
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Women are being forced to accept the “male gaze”’as the default preference for experiencing sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:21 PM
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What makes you think we’d care as much about commitment if we had most of the resources? Or what makes you think we’d allow you to be bums if we dominated? Social incentives would heavily skew toward the female imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 12:20 PM
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I think if women dominated you all would be forced to work harder to make yourselves physically and emotionally attractive to us, thereby creating a more naturally occurring reactionary sexuality in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:51 AM
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See, this is the problem with revisionist white male history. You all purposefully remain ignorant of other cultures and have amnesia about specific events in history to maintain your delusion of superiority. And if you’re losing by your own measurements, you change the rules/criteria. There’s just so much that’s wrong here, but I’ll let you cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:49 AM
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THIS. 🙌🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:35 AM
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Not possible. As women can't build the stuff the helps maintain society. Being prevented from or not having to “build the stuff” doesn’t mean we can’t. A woman that isn't controlled by a man becomes a whore. The population would slowly die out as women abort for sport. That does not compute. More sex but less babies? The West was created by white male supremacy. The difference is that white men have 20 more IQ points Oh wow, you mean white men invented a test biased toward and based on the assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:33 AM
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You all vastly overrate yourselves. Jesus Christ, the male ego is ridiculous. Society would just take a different shape - in no way would it fall apart. You all are evolutionarily expendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:25 AM
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Probably like the bonobos. Highly social, highly cooperative, highly sexual. Emphasis on health of the overall group rather than the individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:18 AM
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Yeah porn has made men ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:14 AM
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Divorce is the other. Men only learn through loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 11:10 AM
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Yeah...this doesn’t look like it's for me. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:16 AM
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Never heard of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:35 AM
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Well damn. 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:50 AM
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I’ve seen chaste, marriage minded women suddenly become porn stars for the right guy in an effort to get him to commit. Which is the very thing you all have a problem with right? Women can’t separate sex from power. If she’s only having sex to secure commitment, she’s going to wrap it up and revert back to her natural state as soon as she has it. I personally think it’s mostly the unhealthy messages women get about sex that makes them non responsive and unable to initiate; I don’t think it’s inn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:47 AM
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Prudish mothers...Who got it from patriarchy 😑
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:33 AM
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But did I lie? You hate high n-count women, but this is the end result.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:32 AM
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This makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:07 AM
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I think that women use sex to secure commitment. And when that commitment is safely secured, she stops putting out so much. Early in a relationship, women will initiate sex even if they are not necessarily in the mood to prove their sexual prowess. That’s the problem with our current view of female sexuality. A woman’s power and virtue is all tied to her sexuality, which makes it difficult for her to enjoy it simply for its own sake. You can’t expect chaste, marriage minded women to suddenly bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 02:01 AM
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I’m sorry, but that kind of entitlement just borders on insanity. Welcome to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:46 AM
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But what if he’s being a jackass? Men only understand loss and consequence. You can’t keep forcing yourself to fuck him and expect him to address his issues. Men make it so sex becomes the only chip left for women to play. Like y’all are really dense a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:45 AM
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Again, we have patriarchy, rape culture, and the “male gaze” to thank for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:38 AM
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We’d have to learn to objectify men sexually a bit more - which is not easy or natural for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:36 AM
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Preach on it. 🙌🏽
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:34 AM
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It would be stupid to try and make moves unaware of what you’re up against. Society will come smacking you in the face so hard your head will spin backwards. You gotta learn the game then learn to navigate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:32 AM
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i realized awhile ago that so many women have no concept of their own sexuality and only view it as a tool to please men. Blame the patriarchy for this madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:29 AM
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I'm not connecting how feminism leads to less deadbedrooms and starfishing. Feminism allows women to explore their sexuality on their own terms and removes the ties between chastity and a woman’s value. You can’t expect chaste, marriage minded women to suddenly become high libido porn stars becuase they have a lot of guilt, shame, hyper responsibility, and personal value tied to their purity. You have to divorce these things for women to be able to navigate sexuality and be responsive and behold…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:28 AM
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It’s not like personal and society wide issues are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:25 AM
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The problem is society sets it up so that the only leverage a woman has in a relationship half the time is the sex. It’s hard not to tie your emotions to your sexuality when it’s your biggest and sometimes only bargaining chip. You cant keep having sex with a man and expect him to change or make you happy; it only breeds entitlement. Men only learn through loss. Blame the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:22 AM
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The problem is society sets it up so that the only leverage a woman has in a relationship half the time is the sex. It’s hard not to tie your emotions to your sexuality when it’s your biggest and sometimes only bargaining chip. Blame the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:21 AM
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One last thing - once the slightest bit of resentment over expectations sets in, it can be a downward spiral. Often i see women completely cutting off ANY affection because they associate affection with leading to sex, and sex has a negative association with missed expectations and disappointment. Then, without any affection, they dont get turned on, and assume that means 'theyre not really a sexual person anymore'. I did this once. I thought my mojo had just left the building for some reason . …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 01:11 AM
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