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It does suck. And you are right, you missed out. Now don't miss out on all the girls that you can have now. You can't change the past, but you can change the future. You are still young and there is lots of cool shit that is gonna happen to you. Oh, and keep working out if you are not that great looking. I have a face like a foot, but since i started working out, now I get laid. Good looking people can get away with anything. Us average people, gotta work for it.
/r/seduction19/04/18 08:11 PM
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Yep! A lot of guys who are saying don't text her, make her call you, make her chase you, etc, must not actually hook up with girls. I have never known a girl that was cool with me not texting her. Most chicks like to text. People need to accept it. Just don't be clingy is the real rule.
/r/seduction19/04/18 08:07 PM
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I'm not clever, but I'm right.
/r/seduction22/02/18 06:50 PM
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WEll you get better at game as you get used to it. Seriously, the $ shouldn't even be worth a text talk. Bot or not, it's an instant no. Just like if you were talking to a chick, she seemed cool, then sent her picture and she was morbidlly obese. Nothing wrong with that, but if for you it's an instant no, and you move on, it's not worth putting out there. And don't worry about trusting online chicks. Every single chick I know is pretty active online. It's kind of how things are.
/r/seduction19/02/18 02:08 AM
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What do you mean? Of course it's easy. She asked for $ from a complete stranger. She doesn't like you. She never liked you. She doesn't even know you. You don't even know her. As soon as $ comes up, you next her. End of discussion. Not even worth talking about why or whatever. Can I ask how old you are and if you have dated much? Because this is not something you should worry about. I'm wondering why it bothers you. Dude, you will have lots of rejections, this $ one is the easiest one you will h…
/r/seduction19/02/18 01:46 AM
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This. Fake or real, doesn't matter. Chick asks for $, you delete, move on. This fucking sub sometimes, man....
/r/seduction18/02/18 10:13 PM
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Why is this even a topic? If it was fake, who cares, you don't want anything to do with it. If it was real, who cares, you don't want anything to do with it. Chicks asks for money, you next her. Why is this is a conversation?
/r/seduction18/02/18 10:12 PM
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You sound like someone who isn't very good at dating and you are looking for something/someone to blame. Social values change. Adapt or get left behind. You can keep tipping your fedora to mi'ladies and being pissed it doesn't work like in the "old days" OR you can grow some balls, stop being a fucking nerd and put yourself out there and ask girls out. And ya, that means getting rejected a lot until you figure out what you are doing. Everyone has to do it tho. Keep talking the way you did in op,…
/r/seduction18/02/18 10:07 PM
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Def get free app MyFitnessPal for your phone. Count calories. I try to get at LEAST 3500 to 4000 a day. Which is hard for me. But if I didn't count them, and only went on appetite, I'd never hit. Then I work out 5 days a week. 8x8 each set. Works for me.
/r/seduction10/12/17 06:00 PM
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just go to r/bodybuilding and look up something. You don't have to concern urself with things like forearms or things. Mostly just high reps of your main muscle groups. Look at it this way, the Stronglifts 5x5 guys always make fun of what they call the "bro rep" schemes that college guys do. Funny how those college guys are all buff and fucking girls left and right tho, huh?
/r/seduction10/12/17 05:59 PM
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/r/seduction07/12/17 04:15 PM
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Again with this, dude. Did you even read my tl;dr in the post that you are stalking me about?! Why don't you post the link to that discussion so everyone can see the context and see how much of an asshole you are right now? All this because you are butthurt because I called you out on being a dick and being wrong. Get over it, man. It's interwebs. You gave shit advice. I called you out. Let it go. And now you are bring up shit that is not even in this thread. lol Are you new at insulting, brah? …
/r/seduction06/12/17 10:22 PM
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I was giving context, not defending her. Dude, you and me are on the same page. My whole post was how NOT to do it, hence the title. I'm fully aware that I reverted to beta cuck mode and I'm way more annoyed by it than any readers can be. I posted the story as a warning to others. We are all just one fucked up date from being dumbasses if we don't keep frame. Tho I doubt anyone would piss all over themselves like I did, so yay me. Ya realize that I know it's cringy, right?! That's why I posted. …
/r/seduction06/12/17 10:07 PM
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You clearly lack in social skills and awareness so it doesn’t surprise me that you need this sub for help! Says the guy in this sub. Also, nice brag about all the hotties you've been with. My point still stands. You added nothing to the question, since the guy was all about making first impressions, and you fucking said "If she is into you, it doesn't matter..." So asshole, let me clarify: OP was talking about talking/getting chicks that weren't into him yet. So your answer was fucking useless. …
/r/seduction06/12/17 06:52 PM
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Wow this was so cringy to read! Sounds like you’re still “beta” by buying her gifts and gifts for her dog Truth on the cringy! But the gifts were for her birthday. My bday was last month and she got me a gift and one for my dog. This date was on her bday, so I got a gift for her and her dog. And it was a variation of what she got me. We have an ongoing personal joke gift thing between us that's been ongoing for 4 years. I didn't add that context because I had already written booklength text. Yes…
/r/seduction06/12/17 06:44 PM
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You’re flattered she sent you a friend request? I just meant in the "oh ok, cool" sort of way. Not flabbergasted or floored or anything. FB is a weird thing when it comes to starting or restarting to date. Some people friend you after a date, some are wary, and hold off. I have went out with a bunch of girls over the last 2 years. I'd say it's 50/50 that I get a friend request. I never request. I think it's iffy territory. And with her, being a public relations image consultant professional, it'…
/r/seduction06/12/17 06:39 PM
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Hey man, thanks for your comments. I had already written a book length story, so not a lot of background, so let me clarify a little. I have known her for 4 years. So her mom knows about me. So the marry thing wasn't after just one date. We have even talked marriage and kids when we dated last time too. She is a girl that goes back and forth between wanting to be married and single. A lot. Ya, the FB thing is annoying. I am not defending her, cuz pissed me off too, but we were co-workers right b…
/r/seduction06/12/17 06:28 PM
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Great, but this sub is about getting dates. My point was that you saying "if a girl is into you, doesn't matter...." doesn't really offer anything in this sub, because this is all about first impressions. Of course, after someone is into you, you have a lot more leeway on what you can do, look like, etc. If a chick is into you, having coffee w her while wearing your pajamas is fine. First date? No.
/r/seduction05/12/17 07:27 PM
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Ahh, fair enough. My response to you was way too harsh. Apologies. We're all gonna make it! lol
/r/seduction04/12/17 06:02 PM
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All great points. Thanks for the great feedback. I really do like her, she has her moments of being caring and sweet. But ya, sometimes she can be a little self-absorbed. I think I am just gonna keep hanging out with her, and seeing others, and not really stress about any of it. You have really really great insight thanks. She just texted me and said "Morning! I friended you on FB... Figured you'd want to now, plus we need to be friends so I can tag you in all our skiing pictures!!" This is tric…
/r/seduction04/12/17 05:44 PM
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No. Stronglifts is for if you want to get strong. Stronglifts works wonders if you are short. But if you are tall and skinny, stronglifts fucking sucks. OP is going for size, not strength. Sure, some size comes with strength, but not as much as a workout dedicated to size would. Bodybuilders are all bout size. Doubt many of them do Stronglifts 5x5 lol Stronglifts is for guys who like looking at spreadsheets and hitting numbers on their bench and squat. Most girls don't care how much you squat. S…
/r/seduction03/12/17 08:03 PM
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If a girl is into you she won’t care whether you’re fat, skinny, or in between But this sub is dedicated to seduction and game. First impressions mean a lot. Being fat or skinny is NOT a good first impression. If the girl is into you, then you don't need to be in this sub. So yes, OP should bulk up. No girl is "into" him or he wouldn't be here.
/r/seduction03/12/17 07:57 PM
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In my experience, younger girls don't mind skinny IF you are really good looking. If you are just average or whatever, you have to bulk the fuck up. And it works. After I bulked up and changed my game up, I got laid all the time. I know for a fact that my body got me laid, because I'm a butterface. lol No regrets! haha Xanax is the wrong way to go to. It will kill your appetite and you have to eat. A lot. I'm 6ft tall. I used to weigh 140 lbs, three yrs ago. Now I weigh 190. Eat. Lift. Eat. Lift…
/r/seduction03/12/17 07:47 PM
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You did great. Now just next her. If she wanted to go out with you, she would have.
/r/seduction03/12/17 07:40 PM
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All really really really great points. I can't really disagree with too much. First the break up: No reason. She just broke up with me, out of the blue, needed to find herself. She just started a new job, in a new city. We were dating at her old job, old city. Wasn't a fight that initiated it. We stayed friendly and classy. We'd text and say hi every few months. Nothing real deep, and mostly just hi, hows your job" kinda stuff. I NEVER texted her first. It was always her initiating contact. I'd …
/r/seduction03/12/17 06:14 PM
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lead supervisor at McDonald's who managed 4 people got fired because he grabbed some girls ass, but it's practically the same thing, just won't make headlines. Again, my point being that that has no bearing on a guy, in a bar talking to women and flirting. You seem to think that it's dangerous to talk to women now and that men gotta watch out. I told you were were full of shit. In your own example fo mcd' it was someone hitting on his employee. If it's not an employment environment, then you can…
/r/seduction03/12/17 05:41 PM
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I agree. And that's def not what I did. Sometimes I'd be "Ok, I got this, I need to just fucking stop dicking around." or something similar. You are taking my words a bit too literally. I'm talking mindset. I don't set around thinking "Be alpha!!! Be alpha!!!" I do sometimes think, "stop being a pussy and just fucking go for it" when I resort to my natural demeaner of being self-conscious or shy. And yes, true alpha guys don't have to do that. But I am recovering shy, beta pussy guy who used to …
/r/seduction03/12/17 01:23 AM
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Thanks. You may be reading a bit much into my alpha talk. For the record, I say "alpha" just to mean, confident, in charge, charismatic, etc. And yes, women are more drawn to alpha people. It's just fact, man. There was no "if I buy this or do this, she will love me" situation. She is an ex-gf. I have also dated plenty of girls since then and date/get laid regularly now. This was more of a oneitis situation making me lose my frame. But women absolutely do go for confident, charismatic, charming,…
/r/seduction03/12/17 12:28 AM
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You did the best you could under the circumstances. I mean, she told you she was dtf, told THEM that she was going home with you, so I can see why you stuck it out. But ya, her inviting tinder guys would have made me end shit right then and there. I wouldn't have brought up the "puke" part on the goodbye, but I do like that you called her out on the tinder matches. Next this chick. I just had a oneitis reconnect date too. And it sucked too. So I def feel ya
/r/seduction02/12/17 11:43 PM
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Thanks. I agree with all of your points and follow all of that with other girls. In fact, went into date telling myself "Just another chick. Nothing special. Just another date." But fuck all, it didn't work. Even the self-amusement didn't work because I didn't really enjoy the NBA game. lol I would've personally used her bathroom She didn't want me in her apartment. She would have straight up said no or at the very least, been very very annoyed. Not a great way to start the date. Now if I would …
/r/seduction02/12/17 10:03 PM
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Hey I need to piss. Let me use your bathroon." Not the best way to start a 1st date. She's an uptight bitch about shit like that and would not have been cool. She did NOT want me in her apartment. And she would have said no on using her apt bathroom. "Yeah I'm totally lost, come pick me up. " Again, not a great impression. Sure if the chick is ur gf, and all that is fine. Or if she is the cool, laid back, hippy chick you meet at whole foods, cool. If you are creating a first impression with a we…
/r/seduction02/12/17 08:04 PM
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Just because we've changed doesn't mean that the ones who hurt us will see us that way, and simply by being around them, we're likely to easily fall back into old patterns of negative behavior. 100 percent truth. And I found that out, up close and personal. Your entire post is great. But I at least want to get in her bed one more time! I'm way better in bed now, so I wanna go out in a blaze of glory at least!
/r/seduction02/12/17 07:56 PM
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I didn't ask because she didn't want me to go into apartment, and I didn't want the night to start out with me asking to take a piss. Trust me, I know her. If I would have said "I need to take a piss" she would have said, "why didn't you go before you got here? How fucking old are you anyway?" She can be a straight up bitch. Sure, pissing all over myself wasn't a great alternative, but telling her I had to take a piss when she didn't want me in her apartment, wouldn't have really made things muc…
/r/seduction02/12/17 07:53 PM
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Yeah. But she's my fav ex! And I'm different now, so I thought I could pull it off. Nope. You're right
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:30 PM
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you did a few things you didn't want to do A lot fo things I didn't want to. She's so fucking alpha that I just couldn't fucking do my thing. It was a good lesson. The reality is, if I push for my own thing, she'd just bail. But that's better than me following her around like a puppy. But the whole thing about women admiring you if you disagree with them or do what you want? I agree it works in most cases. She is the exception. She's like an alpha guy. Plus she super attractive. And she's wealth…
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:29 PM
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Thanks. It was a good lesson tho. I honestly would have bet money that my current personality/persona/games/new me would be fucking the crazy out of her that night. I get a lot of first date lays. But nope, I'm not as good or as cool as I thought!
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:25 PM
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If you can't use HER bathroom, then find A bathroom, even if you have to game your way into it. High rent, security controlled apartment row in big city. Harder than it seems. Within walking distance to retail, but longish walk. So I was sorta stuck. Just one more thought: when pushed outside your comfort zone by the offer of going skiiing, your counter was a movie date. That's no good in my book - she's good at skiing, and you're good at watching movies? Boring. Very good point. But she is in P…
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:18 PM
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Because she did NOT want me in her apartment. I wasn't counting on that since we dated briefly a few years ago. She's very very uptight about things like that. Even then. It's fucking annoying and to be honest, even after all the shit that happened, that probably annoys me most. Like, just show me your new place, I was right there. But right in the beginning, she made it clear she didn't plan on me coming up. And I thought the bottle was a quick solution, so I wasn't even really stressed. How di…
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:08 PM
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Truth. I should keep one in car for just in case scenarios like this. Not sure it would have changed the outcome, since before I got there she didn't plan on having me up, but maybe my frame of mind coulda changed things.
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:05 PM
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that I cant handle the big leagues Yeah. Not just that in my case, it was that the shit I did do, which works for me every time, was NOT working on her. My kino, my usual lines, my usual charm. The chick just was not into me. My kino even usually works on girls that don't like me. I mean, I'm for fucking real, I get laid a lot on first dates. But it's like she was fucking immune to everything I did. And then that added to me losing my frame. Even tho I dated her before, she was pretty much in ch…
/r/seduction02/12/17 05:00 PM
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Cold. But true. I mean, she says she does, but actions. There's a part that stands out, but i didn't put in the story because already too long. We walked back to apt because traffic after game let out. I was planning to walk back to my car, but I guess she thought the plan was to walk back to her apt, and then give me a ride back. Mid walk, she turned to me and said, "You know, I'm not giving you a ride back, right?!" That's why later she apologized for not giving me a ride back. I had been plan…
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:58 PM
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Ya, I wish it was made up. Or at least ends w me getting pussy instead of being a pussy.
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:54 PM
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I will eventually, but I heard it's even harder to pick up than skiing. So looks like I'm gonna be falling on my ass no matter what. Would be way easier if she had no experience skiing, but she's crazy good on ski's.
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:53 PM
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Good plan!
/r/seduction02/12/17 04:52 PM
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Yeah, for me, it's just a simple mindset for being more confident. But saying "alpha" to myself, sounds more, well alpha. I'm not naturally that confident/cool. I pretty much have it down now, but yeah, it's just a good way for me to remind myself to stay in frame. And many people comment on how confident and cool I am. They are always surprised when I tell them I am naturally shy (if I am close enough to them to admit.) Not just with women, by the way. I fucking ACE job interviews now. I have b…
/r/seduction01/12/17 11:40 PM
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My gift to the brotherhood of brothers in search of nookie.
/r/seduction01/12/17 11:32 PM
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Yeah, well it's already started bad, because she picked what we are doing, skiing, and ignored my choice. She's a expert ski bunny, I have never skied in my life. I don't even have a winter coat! Not sure how I can keep frame while she skis around and I just slip and fall on my ass the whole time, but ya, I'll update you all. I just hope it's "Fucking worked! Kept frame. Got laid. She's into me now" and not a book of failures.
/r/seduction01/12/17 11:28 PM
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Because since I started caring about that, I get laid all the time. I'm just using the terms broadly, not science definition. Mainly alpha for dating: Confident, in control, charisma, people WANT to hang out with you, keeping in frame, being in charge (but not a dick), quick and decisive, witty, leading the conversation, active listening, interesting. Beta in dating context: Always walking behind the girl as she leads the way, saying yes to everything, letting her lead the conversation all the t…
/r/seduction01/12/17 11:16 PM
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Yeah, I wish it was fake. But nope. Other little things too, I didn't put in because text was too long already. Things like: -she got really pissed when I took a sip of her beer. Thought she was kidding, sipped again. She wasn't kidding. -there was a kiss cam segment at game. I was trying to catch camera mans eye, discreetly, but she noticed and gave me a WTF look. -beer from guy behind me spilled on my jacket. I wasn't even mad, cuz I figured it would disguise piss smell on me. -Ate one of her …
/r/seduction01/12/17 11:10 PM
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I've done it plenty on long trips and what not, not sure what went wrong this time. Science? I had head right up to bottle super snug, to make sure no spillage. I heard a hissing, like pressure, so I was afraid it was gonna backwash up. It's was a mountain dew soda plastic bottle. I moved the bottle back, but I didn't stop peeing (tried to stop midstream, but sitting down made that tough?) pee'd on bottle and myself, lost grip, bottle all over. So note to all, don't stick it snug to your dick. J…
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:54 PM
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seemed to me as if you were a little bit emotionally invested. 100 percent this. I thought I was past the oneitis, but nope. And I know that. On the date I knew that. I'd tell myself "Dude, she's just some girl. Just like another girl. Just like the girl you banged a few days ago. Nothing special. Just another date, with another girl." But just couldn't keep frame.
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:48 PM
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And you know what? It's ALWAYS been this way with her. Even when we dated, it was bad weather, flat tires, flu, work emergency, etc. The fucking universe has worked really hard to make sure it doesn't work w her and me. But next weekend I am staying overnight at her place. If it all sucks then, I will next her for sure.
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:47 PM
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Not sure why you wouldn't just ask to use her bathroom. Pretend she's just a buddy. Agree with you in theory. But we dated briefly before and the fact that she wasn't inviting me up to show me her new place, I sensed the vibe was she didn't want me up there. She's kind of high-strung about that. Her place has to be spotless or she never lets anyone in. She just moved in, just got out of a relationship, and we are sorta exploring each other again. Since I had the vibe she didn't want me up there,…
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:44 PM
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Thanks. It seemed like from the getgo she wasn't ready to have me up to her apt just yet, which threw off my whole setup and plan. But I'm seeing her next weekend for a ski stayover, so fuck it, maybe I WILL have better luck next time
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:42 PM
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Truth!
/r/seduction01/12/17 10:40 PM
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Yeah, kind of. Oddly enough, only with her. It's the strangest fucking thing. All the other strategies I use (and others use) from this sub, and experience, whatever, I always have been able to really be a fun, confident guy on dates. A 1st date I had last week ended in a f-close and she said "This is the best first date I have ever had." But with this girl, the ex. I had piss and window washer fluid all over myself. WTF?!
/r/seduction01/12/17 09:50 PM
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Good. Then once you start approaching more girls, it'll get easy for you. Just don't beat yourself up about it. And don't wait months to talk to a girl. If you see someone, say hi. Some will talk back, some will blow you off. But if someone blows you off for saying hi, wasn't someone you wanna hang out with anyway.
/r/seduction30/11/17 06:18 PM
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I've been trying to say something to this girl at my school for about a month and finally did today You waited a month to say hi to someone? WTF? Do you think the guy fucking her waited a month to say hi? Brah, come on now. first girl I've approached in over 8 months You need to stop being such a pussy. Not meaning to hurt your feelings, but you're in school. Be social. Talk to everyone. Just have fun. You gotta be a lot more social or you are just gonna end up being scared to go out and talk to…
/r/seduction30/11/17 06:06 PM
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Oh please Guru, share your wisdom!!! I did. Be honest, you don't date very much do you? And you sound like someone in very early 20's because you are being such an ass. Your misplaced sarcasm is off because you were the one trying to make an argument that it's sketchy talking/flirting w girls. Which is bullshit. There are no legal problems at all unless the person works for or with you. All the news articles were about hollywood bosses, execs, or people in power taking advantage of it in front o…
/r/seduction29/11/17 05:36 PM
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My point still stands. Nobody ever got in trouble for flirting with a girl or talking to a girl, unless they worked with them in some capacity. It's still not illegal to talk to total strangers and flirt. Like I have been saying all along. And your story, even if true, still doesn't refute what I say.
/r/seduction28/11/17 07:50 PM
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Yep, we've all been there done that. Before I knew what was doing, I as the guy texting while she was giving bj's. Easy to fall back into that if I lose frame.
/r/seduction25/11/17 09:28 PM
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So I was right. You don't have much experience. It shows. Dude get out there, fuck girls, stay out of the friendzone. Not that tough.
/r/seduction25/11/17 06:23 PM
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You haven't had much experience with women and dating, have you?
/r/seduction25/11/17 06:04 PM
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Ok, you're right. I mistook what you were saying as sarcasm. Sorry for my salty response. but ya, you got the point. Others in this thread did not...
/r/seduction25/11/17 06:04 PM
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Do you really have to ask? Yes, if you keep getting rejected, stop asking THOSE people. But don't stop putting yourself out there for other people. Why would you wanna hang with people who don't wanna hang with you. Self-respect, man. Surround yourself with people you appreciate and who appreciate you back.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:50 PM
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Can confirm. I'm late 40's, look early 30's and smash girls in 30's. Life is awesome.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:45 PM
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WTF? His point is that friendzoned guys shouldn't keep wasting their time orbiting a girl if she isn't returning the feels. Did you really miss that point of the story?
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:42 PM
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Yet, he is still texting her. Hence the point. He IS better off without her, but he keeps texting her, even after being friendzoned, while she is giving a bj to a random dude. Beta vs alpha.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:41 PM
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Why? OP is talking about how pathetic friendzone orbiter guys are. People need to know this in graphic detail sometimes.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:40 PM
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What part? He's just saying that a guy who is easily obsessed over a girl and a beta won't be able to successfully handle an situation where he should ball up and be a man.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:39 PM
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This.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:38 PM
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It should inspire you to stop obsessing about a girl who friendzoned you. You need to getting the bj, not texting her while she is giving one to someone else.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:37 PM
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Love this post! So accurate. Friendzone guys need to know just how much they are being silly by worshipping a chick who isn't returning the favor.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:37 PM
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Thanks. I mean, sure, I know there are varying degrees of confidence, aggressiveness, etc, but I think the terms, 'alpha/beta,' are very simple and identifiable in contexts of dating. People who try to break it down into multiple levels, and just over thinking. For me, Alpha = balls up, go for it. Beta = pussy out, miss the chance. Just quick terms for confidence.
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:32 PM
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I call bullshit. Unless this wasn't in the US, I call total bullshit. And if by some tiny chance you story is true, which I still doubt, the girls didn't call the police. And no one was arrested. Police could have just thought ur 'cousin' was being rowdy since he yelled and they were just being wary and proactive thinking he was a drunk troublemaker about to cause problems. Again, you weren't arrested. Because it wasn't against the law. Still doesn't count as flirting with a girl in a bar. Go ah…
/r/seduction25/11/17 05:28 PM
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k
/r/seduction25/11/17 03:50 AM
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Are you being for real? You realize this is how people go out and meet right? I stand by what I said, you all are just scared to talk to girls and by being able to talk about the big scary consequences of lawsuits and whatever, you get to talk yourselves way out of it. It is not illegal to ask someone out or flirt with them if you are not their boss, if you are not their co-worker, of if you have not hired them for anything. Get real.
/r/seduction25/11/17 03:50 AM
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felt too insecure and fragile to speak to other woman Sigh. What happend to having balls?! Is there some sort of sorcery going on in society? Or chemicals in our food and water or some shit? The lack of testosterone in guys these days is getting out of hand. You got dumped. Sucks. Stop being a pussy. You're not that fragile. You are bummed that you got dumped. Keep the pussy attitude and you are gonna get dumped a lot. Chicks like men. So be one. Go out talk to girls. Get laid. Get over last gf.…
/r/seduction25/11/17 02:29 AM
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That or become their new girlfriend. The way he is asking the question, makes me think he's gonna be the new girlfriend.
/r/seduction25/11/17 02:25 AM
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What the fuck? Are you actually nerding out and making conversation-trees on how to talk and pick up women?! You read, get some general advice, then go out and do. Fuck up, learn, do again. Fuck up, learn, do again. Finally, you don't fuck up and you know what works. Fucking reddit nerds. Ugh! Stop being a fucking spaz and go talk to chicks. Do you think that Chad Thundercock, who is banging girls left and right, took notes and made charts on what he would do and say when he talked to girls? No.…
/r/seduction25/11/17 02:22 AM
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When asking her I made it clear that I don’t do this often and I’m not trying to be a creep but I would really like to take her out sometime. Stop that. Why the fuck would you practically apologize for asking her out?
/r/seduction25/11/17 02:12 AM
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Yeah, you are getting there, so no reason to be depressed. Small steps sometimes.
/r/seduction25/11/17 12:28 AM
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Yeah, she was in your apartment, and you let her go on and on about an ex, so much so she talked herself out of wanting to be with you. That was beta. But the fact that you know it, and realize your mistake, means you are on your way. So good on ya. Just don't do it again. And hey, you had her in your apartment, that's a huge step, so be proud. Also, cue the brigade that comes in and saying they don't believe in beta/alpa terms. I like the terms and it's easy to get in a good mindset when I use …
/r/seduction24/11/17 11:55 PM
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Not very hard at all once you get confident. I'm ugly as fuck and I can get a lot of girls. And it also cured my oneitis, by the way.
/r/seduction24/11/17 11:48 PM
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Stop smoking weed. It is doing you no favors.
/r/seduction24/11/17 01:37 AM
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FIRST: Stop posting that pic over and over and asking questions in the subs about why a girl doesn't like you, or are you bald, or those variations. That pic is done. Don't use ever again. Ok? Never again. That's your first step. SECOND: If you go to a therapist or something, even tho they are a "complete stranger," the are professionals who have dealt with your issues before. They won't be shocked. They won't laugh. They won't judge. Be relieved that you can talk to someone who has dealt with p…
/r/seduction24/11/17 12:03 AM
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I just havent been able to muster the courage or willpower to overcome my weakness and depression. Part of me wants to stay in bed all day and hate life and more often than not that part wins. You gotta either figure that out and stop it or go to counseling. All I know is if you don't make the change, then you won't change. I used to be like you. and I got tired of it and changed.
/r/seduction23/11/17 10:17 PM
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Aaaaaaand now we know why you are a kissless virgin.
/r/seduction23/11/17 10:13 PM
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wonder if it's ok to even talk to a woman closer than 10ft away No. That means by me being confident enough to talk to her, the odds are in my favor. Less competion. So yes, stay away. What the fuck are you goin on about? The news stuff is all about shit that happened to people they WORKED WITH, in hollywood, offices, movies, etc. Are you daft? Not one of them was about a guy who flirted with a stranger in a bar. It was either co-workers, or celebs, or people and the hired help. If it's not your…
/r/seduction23/11/17 08:13 PM
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Do you have Asperger syndrome or something? You have been posting this w your pic and variations of it (where you mention balding, or haircut, etc) for a long while now. 12 times under ur current username. Multiple times under other usernames. Edit: Turns out he has 64 alt user names asking this same question. The reason you are a kissless virgin is because you are fucking weird and post the same picture of yourself, in multiple subs, over several months seeking validation. I know you are waitin…
/r/seduction23/11/17 07:59 PM
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If you are 23 and she is 28, she is no cougar. She's only 5 years older than you, brah.
/r/seduction23/11/17 07:37 PM
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I had been talking to a girl for about 2 months. What the fuck did you think would happen after talking to a chick for 2 months without making a move?! You parked yourself in the friendzone and got there by driving to slow. 2 months?! The fuck, OP? I usually meet a girl, go out w her same day or next. Fuck by 3rd date (usually 1 or 2 weeks tops to fuck). Plenty of chicks have been in my bed same day or next day after meeting them too. And I'm not even very good looking. Why is everyone giving OP…
/r/seduction23/11/17 07:30 PM
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I was talking about the price of the haircut plus the products you have put in it Still no way it's $100 bro. That's an excuse you are using so you don't do it. You are getting very very close to being in r/foreveralone or incel territory with all of your anger and calling yourself pathetic. I get it, you hate yourself. Ok, then use that. Hate yourself so much that you change yourself to something better. Lose the hate, bitterness and jealousy. Use the energy to better yourself. Gym, haircut, cl…
/r/seduction23/11/17 07:21 PM
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Exactly. Why the mods leave this here?
/r/seduction23/11/17 07:09 PM
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Jared Leto is almost 50 yrs old. Thing a 20-something girl would turn him down? Nope. It's all about how you carry yourself. Dumpy middle-aged guy with hushpuppy shoes, tucked in shirt, and phone case on belt. Creepy. Cool older guy who is fit and confident. Cool.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:33 PM
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Dude, some girls like older guys. Even way older. I'm 48 and made otu with a 20 year old co-worker. She was receptive and calls me a sliver fox. But then I'm 6ft, athletic, all my hair and can make her laugh. It's only creepy if you are all sweaty, fat and she thinks you are disgusting. But if you are fit and the girl is into you, no problem. Would I go around hitting on 20 year old girls by choice? No. But do i turn down one who is into me? No fucking way. Jared Leto is almost 50 yrs old. Thing…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:32 PM
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i didn’t really find much on it when google searching it no you didn't. there are thousands of questions and answers about STD's. Google 'can you get STD by blowjob' and there are answers in the first links. What the fuck? Unless you are in a country that censors that stuff.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:26 PM
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Also depends on the girl. And obviously, AFTER you start dating someone, you have to be nice or the girl jets. But in most cases, the nice guy stuff like complimenting all the time, doing sweet things all the time, doesn't work in early stages. After dating, yes. Before dating, oh fuck no! Also girls are different. In most cases it is super lame to take and present the girl with flowers on a first date. I was on a date, and talking about this and the girl said "Oh I would love a guy to bring me …
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:22 PM
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ITT: "I'm afraid to talk to chicks because of the sex harrasment stuff that is all over the news!!!!!" da fuq? If you aren't co-workers or her boss, you are ok. Calm the fuck down. Heck, I made out with a co-worker twice last week (after work, and offsite). zero fucks given. I'm not her boss, and we flirted at work and even if I DID get fired, the job sucks anyway. Just don't whip your dick out or talk sex stuff at work and you are fine. Actually don't calm down. Why you are scared to talk to ch…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:15 PM
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If you work them or are their boss, no. In real life, yes. Stop being so over-reactive. All the shit happening is chicks complaining about their prick bosses. And they have reason to, the guys were assholes.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:11 PM
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Maybe if you work with the person or are their boss. But it's not sexual harassment to flirt with people you meet at the club, or on the street, or whatever. Sure the sex harassment stuff has gotten out of hand, but so has the fear of it.
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:10 PM
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Even if I was able to cure my mental health issues and start a weightlifting routine (and actually stick with it this time) even if I got new clothes, fixed my acne and my eyesight, and spent a hundred bucks on a new hairstyle I would only have a year of college left. In other words, you haven't done shit to improve your appearance and you're bitching about not getting laid. And by the way, a new hairstyle is $40 TOPS. I spend $11 at a barbershop and I get compliments on my hair all the time. Yo…
/r/seduction23/11/17 06:02 PM
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Thanks. I was in a shit mood, read his reply, got annoyed. You're right tho, it was just one guy. I'll try to repost
/r/seduction23/11/17 04:42 PM
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What the fuck makes you think that my post is the same kind of writing I do for a living? Nice brotherhood. Fuck you guys. If ya don't want field reports, then I won't post what works for me. Fine with me. I learned a lot from this sub, but hey I don't have to give back if no one wants to hear. Saves me time anyway :)
/r/seduction22/11/17 03:48 AM
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I meant it as hope. I mean, I love dating. I like having a gf, but until that happens, I date around and have fun until I find someone gf-worthy. Basically if I can do it, anyone can. Keep on keeping on. You'll do fine. Just know that lots of rejection in it, but push thru.
/r/seduction21/11/17 09:10 PM
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Why the fuck would you grow just a mustache and not a beard? Very few chicks like mustache. Lots of chicks like beards. If you do shit like this for shits and grins, expect to not date much while you are doing it.
/r/seduction21/11/17 08:25 PM
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Who's John? What paperwork? Son taken away? Tranny? What is going on with you? zero clue what or who you are talking about. Maybe you need to go back on your meds or something.
/r/seduction15/11/17 11:27 PM
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/r/seduction31/10/17 12:44 PM
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/r/seduction30/09/17 04:45 PM
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I wish I had natty gains, trust me. I'd prefer natty to fake T, but hey, it is what it is.
/r/seduction11/09/17 03:54 PM
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TRT. Testosterone Replacement Therapy. Basically low dose of steroids to get your testosterone levels up to normal. Mine weren't. I was skinny all my life. Nothing wrong with sexual functions, erections or anything like that (some people with low T have problems there). Just super skinny. I would work out. Nothing. I would eat. Nothing. So I had my testosterone checked. Sure enough, I was super super low. I'd bet I've had low T all my life. Now my levels are normal. Well little higher than norma…
/r/seduction10/09/17 07:52 PM
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Lucky you then. I didn't realize this was the only one you had problems kissing. Well stay out of the friendzone, trust me on that. It. Sucks.
/r/seduction10/09/17 07:50 PM
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You will probalby never really get over it if you used to be unattractive. I was always unattractive and very skinny. I've been working out, changed my look, definitely look better now, even tho I sill wouldn't say I'm attractive. I am charming tho. Had a date 2 nights ago, end up at her place. We had some wine, she gets a little tipsy. We are making out hot and heavy. She asks me to stand up and take off my shirt because she wants to see my "amazing body" (her words). I'm self-conscious as fuck…
/r/seduction10/09/17 05:11 PM
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Dude, you're arab. You have centuries of sex issues to work out. This sub isn't gonna cure you that fast. Bottom line tho, you all are crazy repressed about casual sex and it makes most of you all fucking crazy. Chicks like sex. Get over it and enjoy it and enjoy the game. Sex is awesome and it won't end the world. Oddly enough, not having sex would tho!
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:55 PM
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You can overthink it, psychoanalyze it, go over scenarios, all you want. None of it will work. I used to be exactly like you. Then I just thought to myself, "Which is better? Go for the kiss (even if it doesn't work) or be friendzoned?" I was friendzoned for most of my life. As soon as I got literally sick to my stomach thinking about being friendzoned one more time, I started going for the kiss. Every time. I haven't been friendzoned since I started going for the kiss. Turned down sometimes, bu…
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:50 PM
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Not when it comes to ex gf's seeking validation so that they can reject you again and start dating other people. Again.
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:45 PM
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My guess is she just got pumped and dumped by some other dude and is feeling vulnerable and wanting to be comforted by someone familiar. So much this. Same exact thing happened to me recently. Easier to get validation from an old ex than to start new again right away. The validation actually helps them start dating OTHER people tho.
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:44 PM
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Maybe you don't have autism, maybe you are just fucking high too much, brah. No offense, but they way this post was written, it sounds like you are still high. You are on cycle, so does the weed increase your appetite so you can eat more for gains? I honestly think the weed is doing you more harm than good. You are only 5'5", so you can get your manlet gains pretty quickly even without weed. I'm 6 ft, and naturally skinny, gaining is motherfucking hard for me. I'm on a cycle, and eating is the h…
/r/seduction10/09/17 04:39 PM
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and I pretty much never date So serious question: If you don't date, why would you give advice in a seduction sub? I get that you have your own observations and stuff, but the fact that you don't date much, means all of our observations are from watching rather than actual experience.
/r/seduction06/09/17 04:33 PM
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LMAO you are so off base. I can't even remember the last time I bought someone a gift. Well, maybe in your area things are different. How old are you and how often do you date?
/r/seduction05/09/17 04:35 PM
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Is this how aspies approach sex?!
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:23 PM
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I'd say about 95% of all questions here are basic dating advice asked by noobs who have hardly talked to a girl much less dated one. and oftentimes ANSWERED by noobs who have hardly talked to a girl much less dated one.
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:22 PM
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Um if she added you on snapchat, then she is interested. What's so hard about that? Make the move.
/r/seduction03/09/17 07:20 PM
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We're all gonna make it, brah!
/r/seduction03/09/17 06:36 PM
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Millennial women seemed to be turned off from funny, confident, nice, and assertive men. Um, do you date here in the US bro? You are so way off with your statements I wonder if you actually date or are just saying what you THINK you have seen. Because you are so wrong. Funny, confident, assertive men is exactly what the vast majority of women look for. I have a face like a fucking foot, but I'm funny, confident and assertive. And I get laid all the time. Before I took on those attributes, I neve…
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:49 PM
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This is true. I'm older and I usually date younger, but mostly as a result of women my age have stopped caring about their weight.
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:46 PM
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Right on. I wish it was part of the rules that ya have to have your age in flair or something. I'm late 40's (late bloomer!). I have successfully used much info here to finally have an awesome dating/sex life. But after 30, the "Always wear lots of necklaces and your hat backwards when you go to the club" shit is silly. And most women after 30 stop going to clubs to meet guys. Some things ARE universal though: Gym. Confidence. Abundance mentality. Zero fucks given about rejection. That shit work…
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:43 PM
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I have nothing against my age group, BUT most women I meet in late 40's are fat. So I skew young, mostly because of bodystyle preference. I usually date women in their late 20's to late 30's. Some early 40's here and there, but only if they are fit. I don't date chubby girls, but I get a lot of messages from chubby girls. Nothing against them personally, other than I just don't have an attraction for heavier girls.
/r/seduction03/09/17 04:08 PM
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Wasn't a virgin or anything. Had a few girlfriends. Nothing major tho. Definitely wasn't super experienced in sex tho, because the gf's I tended to have were pretty conservative. In the last two years I have fucked more girls that I had in my entire life before I changed my attitude. Around 4 months ago, I fucked 4 different girls in one week. 2 were just looking for that. The other two became FWB for a while. I average about 2 first dates a week now. And I kiss close most. Now I've had chicks t…
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:30 PM
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Maybe, I have been very lucky online and I am not that great looking at all. So it does annoy me when I see so many people say, "Unless you are attractive, online dating is a no-go." I'd say just the opposite. For average and below-average looking guys, online dating is your best bet. Women are fairly distrustful of super good looking guys online because they think they are players. When women see normal, average guys online, they think that the guy is serious about dating and not looking to jus…
/r/seduction03/09/17 03:26 PM
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Exactly! More people should realize that most people think like this. Don't tell me how you were late because of traffic. Tell me you were late because of traffic and you had to piss so bad that tears were in your eyes, but you were on a first date and couldn't just pull over and whip it out. And then it started to rain.
/r/seduction03/09/17 01:39 AM
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I felt like such a frumpy, realist stick-in-the-mud. And you sound like one. Brah, you gotta understand, the key to telling a good story is to make it sound good or nobody wants to hear you yammering on. For me, the strangest shit happens anyway, so not much exaggeration. What I exaggerate is my anger/fear/emotion as the situation happened to me, when in reality I usually don't give a fuck what is going on. And always for laughs. Sometimes being a little entertaining is good. Just don't become a…
/r/seduction03/09/17 01:37 AM
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Basically I describe getting caught in my car singing to a Taylor Swift song and telling everyone that I may or may not be a youtube meme because of it. (I'm not!) Then saying I don't care, I'll sing really bad and really loud to any song. Basically I am showing that I like to have fun, and don't take things like that too seriously. Then I talk a little about what I like to do on a first date. That's pretty much it. Light, but straightforward.
/r/seduction03/09/17 12:52 AM
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They were generic, but showed that I get out and do stuff. Me at a museum with 2 girl friends. At a bar with 3 friends, everyone laughing. A skydiving pic. Ziplining. Then 2 lone selfies.
/r/seduction03/09/17 12:33 AM
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Yeah, I mentioned it in my intro that it wasn't a field report, but couldn't change the title. I was gonna do an actual field report, but I had rambled on enough, so left those details out. Does social-proof work through pictures? Not sure. But in my mind, it lets the person know that I can go out and I have friends. If your entire profile is just lone selfies, it looks like you are always alone. No chick wants that. Could your share your bio-info to give an example of a good joke to use? Out of…
/r/seduction02/09/17 10:35 PM
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Dude, that was a butthurt response. Should have just said "Ok, not a problem." And counted her out. That way there is a slight (very slight) chance that she can always call ya later. But by you being overdramatic, and since she doesn't know you, she's thinking "oh fuck no, this guys is drama." I totally get that you feel pissed and let down, but you can't show it that early in the relationship. She knows NOTHING about you. It's all about first impressions. Now she thinks of this conversation whe…
/r/seduction02/09/17 09:25 PM
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I think you "asked" way too much. Sometimes you don't "ask" so much as you "suggest" or "tell." Hey, as I yesterday said at party that it would be awesome to get known each other way more better. Would you be interested to go eat out some day? This should have been, "At the party, we talked about getting to know each other better. Let's go out saturday. I'll pick ya up for ice cream. 3 oclock work?" Does this mean "Never" or "Not now" Should have been, if she rejected you or was vague, "No probl…
/r/seduction02/09/17 08:32 PM
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Ok, in the spirit of you. Posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6xoekr/field_report_from_someone_older_than_20/
/r/seduction02/09/17 07:37 PM
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I was literally sitting down to write a very similar post on how far I, also an older guy, have come in the two years since I found this sub. Now maybe I don't have to. You made great points and your story is very similiar to mine. I'm late 40's (tall and fit, so look in 30's) and I just fucked two girls this week. One was in her late 20's, one was in her mid-30's. I don't specifically look for younger chicks, mostly it's that women in my age range are fat. And to get slimmer one, younger seem t…
/r/seduction02/09/17 06:42 PM
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I don't have advice, but I do know that the guys in here that go around saying "don't text, it's only for setting up dates!" must live in unicorn land. Where da fuk are they meeting girls that don't mind not texting?! EVERY chick I meet loves to text and text a lot. My text game is awesome (thankfully!), but when I was trying to follow the advice of only text to set up dates, lots of girls just dropped me because I never texted. I think you have to be careful not to overtext, but you definitely …
/r/seduction30/08/17 06:32 PM
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Apt username.
/r/seduction25/08/17 10:23 PM
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You fuck, then become boyfriend and girlfriend. This. Unless your are mormon or something, this is the way modern relationships work. Like or hate it, it's fact. I personally like it this way.
/r/seduction25/08/17 10:22 PM
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Sounds like you need to do more festival, less tinder. That dude got her while you were texting her. But ya, sucks anyway. Just jump back in and go on. And don't delete her number. She could always text you again after she flakes on other guy. Just don't text her first.
/r/seduction25/08/17 10:04 PM
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I had a heck of a time reading the post too! I was thinking either I was too drunk to read it or he was too drunk to write it!
/r/seduction25/08/17 06:24 PM
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English isn't your first language, is it? And since you are whatsapp, so much, assuming you aren't in U.S. (We usually just text or snapchat here, not many use whatsapp) Don't know much about the culture you live in, but here in US, I would just play it cool and don't stress it. It sounds like you are getting oneits. You need to see and date other girls and not get so hung up on this one. Play it cool with her. Don't rush things. Don't go after her, but don't ignore her. Just hang out with her d…
/r/seduction25/08/17 06:23 PM
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Well, to be honest, if "being yourself" means no pussy because you are so goofy/weird/unusual/beta/whatever or it severely limits your options of available women, then nothing wrong with censoring yourself a bit. I was a goofy, weird, beta, dork. Definitely got friendzoned more than got laid. Started to change my personality a bit, gave a little thought on how others perceived me and I changed my approach. I'm still plenty goofy, but I let that it show in much smaller bursts, and as I start to g…
/r/seduction25/08/17 06:14 PM
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Well, if you are looking for chicks down to fuck, um, no. It's sorta of morphed into a dating app. They are not advertising to fuck, the are advertising to meet and date. Then fuck.
/r/seduction22/08/17 07:56 PM
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Are you new to the scene? Bascially Tinder was designed as a hookup app. I've hooked up with plenty of chicks from Tinder and I'm not that great looking. You message. Build some rapport, meet for coffee/drinks, whatever. I just had a date a few weeks ago from Tinder. Just know is she is really good looking, and her pics look pro, and she says "down for fun" she's a bot. Just message the real ones. Tinder is not the place to be looking for 10's.
/r/seduction22/08/17 05:40 PM
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This! I see so many black guys pull in hot girls around here.
/r/seduction22/08/17 05:37 PM
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Your obsession is getting even weirder, because now you have delusions. Never been to court in my life. Never even had a speeding ticket. You make some weird shit up. Are you projecting? And yet I still have fucked more girls than you can look in the eye. So I know you are an awkward, autistic virgin that's afraid to talk to girls and all, but why are you scared to look them in the eyes when you talk to them? What's up with you awkward autistic weirdos not being able to look people in the eyes? …
/r/seduction30/07/17 03:13 PM
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All of that, and I can still fuck girls, have a gf, and live on my own. And you still are a virgin that can't look women in the eye. What's it feel like to be so alone?
/r/seduction29/07/17 07:18 PM
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Source please... You and your spazzed out obsession with me and the weird phrasing you use is my source. Are you telling me that your autism isn't dangerous? Since you don't understand subtle social cues, it fills you with rage. That's a bad combo. And you know it, you just don't want to admit it. Not only that, lots of mass shootings have been done by autistic people. Just everyone is PC and doesn't wanna smear a curable "mental illness." You don't have to be autistic forever though. Just learn…
/r/seduction27/07/17 08:50 PM
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Wait, hold up, how could I have a son if you think I am still a virgin?! Are you already forgetting have of the weird shit that you make up? And sorry, what lie have I been caught in again? Oh wait, I haven't lied, that's right. That's just your weird autistic mind making up stuff. So since you have never been with a girl or even kissed a girl, do you think about kidnapping someone? You have all the traits of a kidnapper: Socially awkward, autistic, virgin, stalker, weird fantasies, lying, havin…
/r/seduction26/07/17 06:51 PM
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I haven't been caught in any lies. I haven't lied and have no reason to. You are so obsessed with lies. See, I think you WISH I was lying. Because you are a pathetic, autistic, socially awkward weirdo who has to live with caregivers. You think you are better than everyone, but then you see everyone around you has a girlfriend, and you just can't handle it. What's that like? Knowing that you will never kiss a girl, why the people you think are inferior to you, have girls everywhere. See, you're n…
/r/seduction26/07/17 01:22 PM
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Why do you keep deleting your old posts? Are you ashamed of who you are? You can delete your post history, but you cannot delete your past. I haven't deleted my old posts. They are all there. As you know, because you stalk me and read all of them. And even then, I can get a gf, fuck girls and you still can't look anyone in the eye or live on your own with out caretakers. So what's it like never having kissed a girl? Serious question.
/r/seduction24/07/17 04:54 PM
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You're next reply needs to include evidence to back up your claims How about the fact that you are stalking me and this all started because of comments about autism and all you fucking aspies that are obsessed with fidget spinners. The ONLY reason you would have been so butthurt about my autism statements is because you have it. What's it like going through life, never having kissed a girl? How many times have you been to the foreveralone and incels subs and realize that you are one of them? You…
/r/seduction21/07/17 12:59 PM
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/r/seduction21/07/17 12:54 PM
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Not mad at all. You are the one stalking me, remember? Because you got all butthurt because I talked about autistic people. Did you forget why you were originally mad at me? I fuck girls. You've never even kissed a girl. Yeah, so you keep trying to make up shit about my life, I will never ever be as miserable as you. And at least I can live on my own. And have a GF. You can't look girls in the eye. What's it like being a virgin? serious question.
/r/seduction21/07/17 12:57 AM
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So obviously you are autistic. And a virgin. And you still live with your caretakers even tho you are an adult. Now you know that I think autism is basically a fake condition. A social crutch. I think you can stop being autistic if you want to. So you are soooo upset that I fuck more girls than you. And that I'm not a virgin. Why don't you just stop being so socially awkward and maybe learn to look girls in the eye and talk to them? Or would you become a stalker to them like you have to me? Reme…
/r/seduction20/07/17 10:15 PM
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Man, you just weirder and weirder. You are such a weird stalker. You realize that you are stalking another guy, right? Is that why you can't get a gf? Because you stalk whoever talks to you? Is it tough knowing that I have fucked more girls than you have even talked to? What does that do to your autism? You know autism is just in your head right? You can just be normal if you want to be. I told my gf about you. She thinks you should post a pic of yourself. She wants to see how autistic you look …
/r/seduction20/07/17 06:32 PM
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Never had a tgirl. I own my own company. You don't even pay taxes because you live with your caregivers. And again, I have a gf. Something you can only dream about. How many fidget spinners do you have to play with to leave your caregivers house? Serious question.
/r/seduction20/07/17 02:11 PM
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Even if I had autism, even if I were a virgin. You are both of those. And I fuck girls. and get girlfriends. And have a girlfriend. And that's why you hate me. You just can't wrap your head around the fact that I get girls, and you don't. You hate me and you struggle with the fact that you can't even look a girl in the eyes or talk to her, yet I can and fuck all the time. You think you are better than me, better than most people. But see, you are a fucking autistic weirdo that stalks people onli…
/r/seduction20/07/17 01:00 PM
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And yet I can still get a girlfriend and I've fucked more girls that you have even tried to talk to. How many fidget spinners do you have? Do you need them to talk yourself into going outside of the house without your caregivers? Do your caregivers know you are still a virgin?
/r/seduction18/07/17 05:08 PM
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Never had a tranny. And yet I can still get a girlfriend. Something you have never, ever had. What's it like, to never have kissed a girl. Is it hard knowing that it's your own fault? I have fucked more girls that you can look in the eye. Maybe if you put your fidget spinner down? If you would just stop having autism, then maybe girls would talk to you. Ever think of that?
/r/seduction17/07/17 06:47 PM
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I'm confident that your autism keeps you from actually interacting with people when, and if, you ever leave your caregivers. So I won't have to hold my breath for this to happen.
/r/seduction17/07/17 12:35 PM
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How can you fist fuck my mother's asshole if you are too scared to look girls in the eye? You are too autistic to fuck my mom's asshole. But I will offer you her asshole if that would help you get laid. Serious.
/r/seduction16/07/17 03:31 PM
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And yet I still manage to get girlfriends. And you don't. I've never been with a tgirl. And I have a gf. You've never had a GF. So what are you going on about? Do you realize how gay you seem stalking me? What man stalks another man? What's it like never having a gf? How mad are you, knowing that someone like me has fucked mor girls than you have even looked in the eye? Do you have a fidget spinner that you have to play with as you read these messages? LMAO You are an autistic, weirdo stalker th…
/r/seduction14/07/17 01:39 PM
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Why would I be closeted if I was gay. I'd totally own that. This is reddit, why would I hide it?! You are gay tho, aren't you. A gay autistic dude obsessed with me and stalking me. Why haven't you ever kissed a girl? Oh wait, now I know...
/r/seduction13/07/17 04:24 PM
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I'm not autistic, so I'm not mad. Yes you are.
/r/seduction13/07/17 04:23 PM
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I already told you my nofap story. And you know what? Porn made me way better at fucking girls. No fap is a fucking scam. Still not sure what you are trying to do. I'm not embarrassed fo anything. LMAO But you are a guy who is stalking a guy. Now THAT is embarrassing
/r/seduction13/07/17 04:21 PM
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Is this your first day on seddit? A lot of it is treated like a strategy. And many terms are just used as easy to understand placeholders. To be politically correct in every single post would just take way too much space. And you seem like you don't know how the dating game really works. You sound like a person that dated a little, had several long-term relationships, and don't understand why people would go out and fuck just for the fun of going out and fucking. You would probably be happier ov…
/r/seduction12/07/17 11:06 PM
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u realize the tgirl was just more of a joke, right? I have never dated them. You are so autistic, obviously you don't get the whole tgirl porn joke thing. It's a bodybuilding thing. U get so werid. You know I'm not embarrassed about anything I have posted. So keep digging. you are so fucking weird. You realize how gay you are for stalking me? You are a guy. I am a guy, and you are stalking me. So. Fucking. Weird.
/r/seduction12/07/17 07:22 PM
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Yeah, it's all about confidence. Sure some people will judge, but that's just the way shit is. You gotta work with what you have. And you fucking own it. Awesome. More people should think like that.
/r/seduction11/07/17 03:44 PM
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Ha! Good point. I do. I didn't really think about that. But doesn't have height on their bio? And sometimes still get asked? Or do short guys tend to just leave that info off?
/r/seduction11/07/17 03:28 PM
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Ahh, good to know. I still lean toward the thinking that if she asks, she cares. I don't get asked my height that much on tinder. And when I do, the chick usually cares, not always tho. The key is for OP not to care, tho.
/r/seduction11/07/17 03:20 PM
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Some ask just for curiosity. But I would say if they ask that early in the convo, then it probably matters to them. I'm 6ft. If I get asked early on, when I answer, they almost always say "Good!" or "whew!" or something. If it's asked later in the convo, usually no real response or they just ask another question. Which tells me they don't really care that much, but were just curious.
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:54 PM
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If a woman asks, obviously that's something that is important to her and probably gonna not work out well for the short guy. So be honest about it, be confident, don't dwell on it. Answer the question, then move on to the next subject. Her: How tall are you? Him: 5'9. What's ur fav club around here? I just moved here and went to Abe's Apple last nite, but all the drinks were watered down and the music sucked. Not cool. (or whatever question/convo works, but just move on and try to keep good flow…
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:43 PM
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that it is okay to shame them LMAO SJW alert! SJW alert!
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:39 PM
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Because it's a fucking expression that everyone uses, so that's the go-to phrase. Is it hard being such a dorky white knight, or do you feel that you are actually accomplishing something? srs question.
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:39 PM
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Um, what the fuck world do you live in? Of course there is a friendzone, and even women admit there is a friendzone. It's the name for someone who likes you, but has no sexual attraction to you. It's not always a bad thing, plenty of people are just friends. It's a bad thing if you are one of the "just friends" but you don't want to be just friends. To say it doesn't exist, is stupid wording on you part. I know you are trying to say it's not a woman's fault for not wanting to sleep with a guy, a…
/r/seduction11/07/17 02:36 PM
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Man, you are getting stranger and stranger. Stop being weird. Can't you at least pretend to be normal?
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:57 AM
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You're getting laid because technology and society have simultaneously advanced to a point where people can have casual hook-ups with very little effort. I've never denied this. But I DID change my physique and my attitude, which is why I can get laid using modern tech. Because without that, as soon as I meet someone, it wouldn't work. The point is, it's in your fucking mind. Quit blaming your autism for your weirdness. Just stop doing weird shit, get over being afraid to look people in the eye,…
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:56 AM
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You get weirder and weirder. Also, you can overcome your autism, because it's not a real condition. Just stop acting weird, and you will be normal. What your doing is not being normal. stop it. And throw away your fidget spinners.
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:54 AM
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The only reason I started giving you shit was because your comments and actions lead me to believe you were an immature guy in his teens/early 20's No, that's not the reason. The reason is you are an autistic dude, who can't talk to women, and you spazzed out because I make fun of weird autistic guys who can't talk to women. No regrets. I think it's all in your fucking head. Just stop being weird, ball up, be a man and talk to people and look them in the eye. Stop hating the world.
/r/seduction11/07/17 05:53 AM
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Still really weird and creepy that you stalk me. Still really weird and creepy that you are an autistic dude who has never kissed a girl. What's it like not having a girlfriend and knowing that a guy like me, who you hate, has fucked more girls than you have ever even talked to in your life? srs question
/r/seduction08/07/17 07:05 PM
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Still really weird and creepy that you call me John. Still really weird and creepy that you stalk me. Still really weird and creepy that you are an autistic dude that has never kissed a girl.
/r/seduction08/07/17 07:04 PM
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You've never kissed a real girl. How does that feel? you've never had a girlfriend because you are an awkward autistic dude. Why don't you just stop being so weird?
/r/seduction06/07/17 07:39 PM
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Who do you think introduced me to tgirl porn? Yep, a gf. So, still not embarrassed. Keep trying. See, that's why you are so mad. That someone like me can actually have girlfriends, and fuck, while you can't even manage to kiss a girl. Girls don't like aspies and weird autistic guys. What does it feel like? Never to have kissed a girl. Or held her hand. How lonely is that? Serious question.
/r/seduction04/07/17 03:06 PM
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Who do you think introduced me to tgirl porn? Yep, a gf. So, still not embarrassed. Keep trying. See, that's why you are so mad. That someone like me can actually have girlfriends, and fuck, while you can't even manage to kiss a girl. Girls don't like aspies and weird autistic guys. What does it feel like? Never to have kissed a girl. Or held her hand. How lonely is that? Serious question.
/r/seduction04/07/17 03:05 PM
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Which often stems from autism or Asperger's. The amount of aspies and autistic people on reddit is insane. Such a high percentage of them on here.
/r/seduction03/07/17 05:28 PM
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I love porn and hot prostitutes, but I don't have an addiction. My gf loves porn too. What's so hard to understand? I'm not embarrassed when you bring up porn. Or prostitutes. How is that caught lying? I have paid a prostitute to be with me and my gf at the time when she wanted a threesome with a hot girl we knew. What does any of that have to do with pedophilia or lying? Why are you so obsessed with me? You are so weird and autistic. So let's get to the fact that you have never even kissed a gi…
/r/seduction02/07/17 03:03 PM
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Caught lying? Where? I would like to know where I lied. Oh and now you are talking pedophilia. That sounds like projection. That's a new one. You get more and more aspie every message. You are so weird and autistic, man. What's it like to never have kissed a girl? What does it feel like to be so alone? Tell us.
/r/seduction27/06/17 12:55 PM
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I was going to directly provide you with the links, but your attempts to request that information in such an aggressive and angry manner has caused me to change my mind. A liar and you have autism. Wow, how does that combo work. Even your response is ultra nerd and autistic sounding. lol I'm not mad, I'm laughing. But I heard the traits of your disorder mean that you have a hard time judging emotions in others. So what does it feel like to never have kissed a girl? To know that girls think you a…
/r/seduction26/06/17 07:08 PM
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Yeah, so send me a link to all of these so-called discussions. I call bullshit. You're autistic. why the fuck do I care to show you evidence? Don't you realize how autistic it is to ask for documentation in a fucking reddit interwebs conversation? Who the fuck cares, aspie? You are butthurt because I made fun of your autistic awkwardness. Get over it. why u so mad? Anyway, go ahead, show me all of these links to quityourbullshit that you seem to think everyone is talking about. You can't even lo…
/r/seduction26/06/17 06:00 PM
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You get weirder and weirder with your responses. Let me make this very clear. I am making fun of you and your "autism." You are a socially, awkward dude that's upset because you are different and you feel you should be treated differently. Fuck you. I don't feel sorry for you just because you are an autistic freak. I think you could be normal if you wanted to. But you are too afraid to try. I said I don't think autism is a real disability. I don't. I don't think it is a "disability." How many ti…
/r/seduction26/06/17 02:23 PM
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So you are mad because of the autism thing? I figured. How am I a fraud or a fake? I'm not horrible with the ladies, I have fucked more girls than you have ever looked at in the eyes. See here's the thing. I AM ugly, but I STILL fuck more girls than you because I'm not a weird, autistic, awkward dude like you. that's why you are mad. You think you are better than me, but your autistic brain keeps you from fucking girls, while I fuck all the time. So? Stop being weird. Fuck more girls. Why can't …
/r/seduction26/06/17 01:26 PM
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How have I been caught being fake? I haven't been 'caught.' Haven't been fake. What are you talking about it. Does autism include delusions now? What kind of social anxiety disorder do you have anyway?
/r/seduction25/06/17 02:27 AM
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But that IS the topic. The fact that you are an awkward, autistic werido, who was sooo fucking butthurt that I made fun of autistic people, that you couldn't let it go. Yeah, I am making fun of you. Your condition is a fucking joke. All you have to do is stop being weird. Stop being afraid of people. Stop thinking that society is overlooking you. Just. Be. Normal. Why can't you do that?
/r/seduction24/06/17 10:13 PM
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Yeah, thought you might remember those
/r/seduction24/06/17 08:50 PM
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First of all, I don't threaten violence and I don't call people losers The PM's you sent me, say different. You know, the ones where you wanted me to give you my address so you could come and beat the shit out of me because I disagreed with one of ur posts? Remember?
/r/seduction24/06/17 08:21 PM
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How was I proven wrong? You are still autistic, and still super weird. So are you one of those autistic dudes that can't look people in the eye?
/r/seduction24/06/17 08:21 PM
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You do have fun, but you also like to add shit like "you fucking loser" when you tell people they are wrong. That's why you have gotten so many downvotes. Nothing wrong in stating your position, but you go overboard and it actually hurts your brand. Just look at your downvotes in this single thread. And threatening violence is always a no-go, friend.
/r/seduction24/06/17 06:49 PM
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And there goes your autism again. You really need to let it go. And why are you still stalking me? My comment was never even for you. You just jumped in the conversation. Stop being autistic and weird. Then maybe you can finally kiss a girl. Why is that so hard for you?
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:12 PM
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truth
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:10 PM
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yea, u/woujo def gets pissed if you disagree with him. Like really pissed.
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:09 PM
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Not ban. Just want them to remove your spammy posts.
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:08 PM
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Definitely sales. So annoying
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:07 PM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:06 PM
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true story!
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:06 PM
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Now that, I'm ok with.
/r/seduction24/06/17 05:06 PM
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Why are you acting so autistic? Why does it upset you so much? I forget, why are you so mad? Oh yeah, because you have autism. But hey, if I don't believe in it, it's not really an insult, right? Good. Now stop being so weird or you will never kiss a girl.
/r/seduction24/06/17 01:40 AM
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this shit is literally not affecting you in any way. Me saying that I miss the old seddit before all the blog posters, is not affecting you in any way.
/r/seduction24/06/17 01:38 AM
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Because all you think you are professionals now. I have no desire to help you make money when most of the advice is free and found on here anyway. I'm tired over every fucking post having spam links now, tho I give a fuck exactly as much as you gave a fuck to reply.
/r/seduction24/06/17 12:57 AM
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But if you don't have it, then why you so mad? Oh yeah, you are autistic. That's what started everything. Stop being weird. It's not a real condition.
/r/seduction24/06/17 12:55 AM
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I wouldn't ask. It's based on vibes, but when I get invited to a chicks house, usually I do think there is a good chance for sex. But you gotta be open to it not being that way. Sometimes they may be up for it, but then change their mind. Sometimes they may just really be dropping something off or changing clothes or whatever. A few months ago, I hit it off with a chick. 2nd date, went to pick her up. She invited me in. Said "lets watch a movie here instead of going out." I def thought it was se…
/r/seduction23/06/17 08:26 PM
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True, but I just wish there was a rule against it or mods doing something about it. I read a lot of subs, but none have as much sales guys as this sub. Hell, even r/sales doesn't have as many posts where guys are trying to sell you their advice.
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:53 PM
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So you do suffer from autism then? Because the fact that you get SO pissed when I mention it, and that you stalk my posts, means you got something going on. I just call it a condition, I don't think it's a fucking disablity where I need to hold your hand or you get a special dork pass. You can stop being weird, but you don't because you like to blame it on your autism. No, just stop being so fucking weird. It's not that hard. Try it. Stop being so weird and autistic. Or stay that way and never k…
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:41 PM
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Totally get it. But I think it depends on looks too. If you are just an average looking guy (or slightly below, like me), waiting too long makes you seem like you don't know what you are doing. By going in for the kiss quick, shows that I'm confident. But I agree that if you wanna gf someone, wait a few dates for sex, unless there are some crazy good sparks going on early in.
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:39 PM
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No way would I wait 5 dates before a kiss. That's the fastest ticket to the friendzone for me. Waiting 5 dates before sex, ya. But to kiss? oh hell no. Lots of women think you are kinda weird by not kissing on first date.
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:30 PM
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This is a very solid post. Great job.
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:28 PM
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I made it a point to mention "I have a condom" Um, never never never say that, unless they ask. This makes you look needy.
/r/seduction23/06/17 07:17 PM
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Why would you family even know? As long as you don't go over for dinner and say, "Hey mom and dad, I been bangin babes ever day and nite. How's ur week?" I think you will be fine. Get laid.
/r/seduction22/06/17 07:12 PM
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Why are you checking my post history? Why u so mad?
/r/seduction21/06/17 02:12 PM
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Um, not sure what you mean, since YOU bring up my penis. You started talking about my penis out of the blue. Really weird man. You have a really weird obession with it. Oh you misunderstand. I don't care about people with autism. I don't even think it's a real disability. You are the one that is all butthurt when I talk about it. Why are you taking it so personal? Are you embarrassed of your "condition"?
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:34 PM
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What are you mad about?
/r/seduction21/06/17 01:31 PM
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Um, nope, you keep talking about my dick. Was never part of my conversation. You seem obsessed with micro-dicks for some reason. Project much, mate? Why so obsessed with me? come on, fess up, do you like me? It's ok, you can say it. We are all fam here. You never kissed a girl, got jealous of me, and now you kinda wanna be with me, don't you? Why so shy? I'm not gay though, so is that feeling of rejection from both men and women, the thing that makes your autism kick in and then you aspie out?
/r/seduction20/06/17 05:50 PM
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I'm not mad. I'm not cyberstalking you, like you are doing to me. And now you are talking about my dick (again!) and talking about suicide and calling me a loser? You sound pretty mad. Why so mad, brah?
/r/seduction20/06/17 05:18 PM
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Get out of my sight! Yet you keep stalking me and trying to prove something. What you are trying to prove tho, I have no idea. Why are you so butthurt just because I talked about a weird autistic trait? Do you think girls would talk to you if you weren't autistic? Just stop acting weird, then you can finally find a gf. That's what you want more than anything, right? Like just one kiss at least... You may have a little crush on me tho. You cyberstalk me and seem obsessed. Do you think that's natu…
/r/seduction20/06/17 04:50 PM
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Would you also like to insult me for being black, gay or fat? Yet, you have called me ugly, threatened me, made up shit about my dick size... What are you goin on about? You are the one having an autistic spurt. Calm down. Why are you so mad? Trust me, if you just stop being weird, you will finally be able to kiss a girl for the first time. I promise.
/r/seduction20/06/17 04:43 PM
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no thanks. I won't be clicking on any links you send. Who knows what your autistic mind is having you obsesses about?! Hell no, I don't wanna find out about the weird shit you look at. lol
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:40 PM
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Wow, you really outdid yourself on the autistic spazzing. What are mad about? Serious question. Why are you so sensitive about someone talking about autistic people acting weird? Your posts are getting weirder and weirder by the way. Calm down. I made fun of autistic people in another post just now, so hopefully your brain doesn't melt. Or are you ok now?
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:36 PM
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Dude, life is gonna kick your ass hard if you think 5 guys in two years makes a girl promiscuous. That's not really bad at all. Girls like to fuck. they like to fuck a lot. And most don't tell you exactly how many guys they have fucked. You have to just be happy w the fact that they are with you now. The past is in the pas.
/r/seduction20/06/17 03:06 PM
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This is a great way to start. I actually met and dated the cashier at a 7-11. We ended up dating for almost a year. And it started with me saying, "Hey, what's up?" The we started talking about our tattoos, traded numbers, went out with her 2 days later. Still super cool with her. So yeah, you gotta get out there and talk to people even if you don't feel comfortable about it at first. As long as you don't act weird and autistic, most people are up for a little conversation. (Waiting for my 3 fav…
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:59 PM
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Is that a threat? I don't understand what you are saying. What are you mad about again?
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:38 PM
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Ok, your autism is kicking in. What are you spazzing about? Are you still mad that I think autistic people are weird and shouldn't act so weird? Is that it? Obviously you don't agree, because your replies are getting weirder and weirder. What is going on with you? And as for talking shit, I haven't. But you sure seem obsessed about it. Between the insults, the threats, and your weird obsession with my dick size... Why are you mad again? I don't get it.
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:37 PM
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Now, now we know.... Awkward. Looks like a foot. I have said that from the beginning, multiple times. And I still get laid. You act like this is some fact that you have uncovered. I say that about me all the time. You have never even kissed a girl, do you really think that you repeating things that I have already said, and have no shame about, is gonna hurt my feels? I know your autism makes it harder for you to read social clues, subtle hints, expressions, understand humor etc. But does it make…
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:34 PM
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Of course you looked up my post history, you are obsessed. But for the record, I wasn't talking about the posts where i argue with you autistic guys. And I don't care about karma, or even know how it works. I just know that I give advice on here, which by the way, you are not doing, and I haven't been banned. You came on here to argue with me. Fine, if you are that pathetic and autistic, but it's not really what the sub is about. Funny tho, I'm still not sure what you are upset about. Acting wei…
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking the kind of "parties" you have, wouldn't be the ones I would want to be invited to anyway. Thnx tho! How many fidget spinners do you and your 2 "friends" from r/foreveralone, have at this "party?" Are you able to look each other in the eye, or is just strangers that you are afraid to look at in the eye? Do the fidget spinners that you autistic people are obsessed with help you all deal with your "anxiety?" Are you still mad about the autistic thing or have you gotten over that…
/r/seduction20/06/17 02:27 PM
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When have I ever deleted all of my comments? Check my post history and also show me some deleted comments. Any comments I have deleted (which is very very few. Maybe 3 at the most during my whole reddit experience) And who called me out on what? I don't understand what you are trying to say. Why are you so mad? Serious question.
/r/seduction19/06/17 08:09 PM
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Been there, done that. Knew a girl I used to work with. Took me 3 freakin years to finally get in her pants. But I was drunk as shit, half mast, and she was pretty vocal about her disappointment! lol So ya, I get it. Lesson learned though, now I never get shitface drunk when I am gonna fuck a girl.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:59 PM
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Are you a mod? Until I get banned or something, I am part of this sub. I know that annoys you, but it is what it is. Most of my posts get upvotes. You are not adding to the conversation or helping people, by fixating on me. Why are you so mad? Serious question.
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:57 PM
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So you are gonna resort to physical threats because we don't agree on a subject, on the interwebz? What?! Why are you here in this thread if what you are saying has nothing to with our topic? Seriously?! What is going on with you? Why would I tell you my name or where I live? Giving out personal info in subs is against reddit policy anyway. You seem to be really upset for some reason. Calm down, you gotta learn to relax, man. Do you threaten to beat up everyone who you disagree with? Serious que…
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:56 PM
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10 other guys? Um, try 3. Who are all aspies. You stalked my posts and you don't even know how old I am? I've said it a lot of times. if you're always hanging out at the gay club, with gay men and participating in gay club activities, well you just might be gay.... Or you can stay in the closet, while still hanging out at gay clubs, having gay chat with gay men So I can't talk about autistic nerds, but you can imply that there is something wrong with being gay? Nice. and by a little bit, I mean …
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:54 PM
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I have the freedom to say my opinion on matters, even if you disagree with them, as long as I don't threaten any physical harm. And you totally have the freedom to disagree with me. And I am totally fine with that. Seems not so many people are ok with agreeing to disagree though. That work?
/r/seduction19/06/17 07:51 PM
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Are you sure you're not autistic? You are acting really autistic right now. Like you are being really weird. And what exactly did you call me out on? Are you saying that chicks DO like weird autistic guys and that people should act weird? I'm not understanding your point. I'm fine in my personal life, it's going great, and I'm having a great day too. I have never denied being a prick. It's just that it doesn't hurt my feelings when you say it. I simply don't care. What's so difficult for you? St…
/r/seduction19/06/17 06:21 PM
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Actually, you DID ask for my opinion and my presence. Public forum, you responded to my replies, even tho I wasn't talking to you, I simply responded to you. I have had upvotes on plenty of my posts, so clearly not everyone is as excitable as you are. Unless you are a mod, who can ban me, then I think I'll just stick around. Sucks doesn't it? That whole freedom thing. I'm free to say what I want, and you are totally free not to like it. If you don't like that set up, you can leave. OR you can si…
/r/seduction19/06/17 06:05 PM
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So you bring up my mother, my dick size, and now politics? And now threats. In the seddit threads? Why are you here? Seriously, why are you bringing all of this stuff up when we are talking about how to get girls?
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:58 PM
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What bullshit have I been called out on? Do you think chicks go for guys who act all autistic and weird? Serious question. Still trying to figure out why you are so personally upset about the autism remark. Are you autistic and tired of being treated differently? I don't understand the point you are trying to make
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:53 PM
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So you're saying that you are perfectly aware that you're a cunt Yes. And I'm not being hostile. If I see someone acting weird, I am free to say I think they are being weird. Why does that upset you so much? For real. come on, let's talk. What do you have? Autism? mild anxiety? What? Something set you off. It's not really normal for you to be so riled up about such a small remark. You know girls probably won't go for someone who openly acts autistic, right? Why aren't you mad at them, rather tha…
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:50 PM
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Sometimes it's just hard to not get emotionally invested. Heck, MOST times it's hard not to get emotionally invested. I get it. It's just something you gotta stay on top of. Takes some effort, no doubt. We're all gonna make it, brah!
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:46 PM
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Three aspies playing with fidget spinners, while trying to work up the nerve to look strangers in the eyes, and being obsessed with my dick size, doesn't really count as a room full of people. Oh a threat too. Nice way to give autism a good name. Why you so mad? What hurt you feelings? Is today a tough day for you? srs question
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:41 PM
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I think you are misunderstanding me. See, I'm a prick. Like you say. One of the really awesome things about being a prick, is not really giving a shit about what other people say. Especially if it's a website full of nerds. We are in a seduction sub. It's about how to get girls. You got fixated because I implied that acting autistic isn't gonna achieve that goal. I stand by that statement. Stop being so fucking weird. Chicks don't like weird. Obviously your feelings are hurt. Well, go out, act a…
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:37 PM
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Just because it's Reddit, doesn't mean that I have to wear baby gloves for everyone here, so that no one get's their feelings hurt. If someone is genuinely upset about something that's said on reddit, then the real world is gonna really suck for them. Jesus Christ, mate, did your parents not teach you to have balls or what? I am totally ok with you thinking I am a prick and wishing the world was a nicer place. Good luck on your journey out there. It's gonna be tough if you think what I say is th…
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:29 PM
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ll i said is i have no idea why you're just assuming hes fixated, when for all you know he's not. When for all you know, he is. I wasn't being defensive. You asked a question, I gave you the reasoning for my comment. You disagreed. And I said it's totally cool that you disagree. Kinda the opposite of defensive.
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:26 PM
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I'm not angry. In fact, your post made me lol. You are the one stalking me. I don't even know, or care, who you are. Nice visuals on the dick story though. You thought about that a lot. Do you really think that some weird autistic dude trying to make fun of my dick would get me rattled? For real? Try harder (pun intended) Do you think about a lots of guys dicks or just mine? You seem kinda weirdly fixated. What meds are you on at the moment? srs question
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:23 PM
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You're being a bit insensitive making fun of autism aren't you? Yes. Don't care. It's reddit, dude. A HUGE number of posters on reddit have autism. Go read the r/outoftheloop thread about fidget spinners. The fucking autistic guys brains melted when someone suggest they were a fad toy. Public forum. I can express my opinion. Obviously, it differs from yours. Cool. Fat people annoy me too, wanna talk about that? Why you talking about my dick? Really weird of you to bring up, but hey, it's reddit,…
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:20 PM
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Based on how he was acting, that's the vibe I got from OP. You don't agree, ok. What the fuck bro, opinions can't be different than yours?! Reread the OP. To me, he sounded fixated. YMMV
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:16 PM
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Sorry, but chicks don't like people who act weird. Don't blame me, I didn't invent the world. Nice of you to stalk me though. But it seems to make you sorta angry. Yeah, I still think self-diagnosed autism is a cover up for socially awkward nerds who are afraid of change. I also bring up how fat people annoy me a lot, how come you aren't attacking me for that? Autistic, much? Zero fucks given that you disagree.
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:12 PM
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You sound kind of autistic. But hey, if you think you can get lots of pussy from acting autistic, do a field report and let us know how it goes. Sorry, but chicks don't like people who act weird. Don't blame me, I didn't invent the world. Why you mad?
/r/seduction19/06/17 05:11 PM
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I'm not sure what you are asking. But the seduction game rules are the same for a girl you just met or a girl you "already like". Treating girls you already have a crush on, differently than girls you wanna bang in the club, is one of the things that puts you in the friendzone.
/r/seduction19/06/17 04:45 PM
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Of course, but there is a difference between 'notice' and 'fixate,' and you sounded pretty fixated on it. But it sounds like you learned and now you don't worry as much, so that's a good thing. Sometimes overthinking this shit is what makes it all fall apart.
/r/seduction19/06/17 02:25 PM
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For example i would send a text, she would see it, i would see that she saw it and i would patiently wait. Dude, seriously? You sit there and check to see if she sees it? How about sending a text, then go about your fucking day. If she replies, she replies. Don't time it. This sounds autistic or something.
/r/seduction19/06/17 02:16 PM
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Keep on top of your mindset and stop acting like a pussy. Do you wanna be here or in the r/foreveralone group? You sound like a foreveralone guy right now. Just stop thinking about shit and do it. It's not really brain surgery, you feel awkward, push through it and shrug off the negative shit.
/r/seduction19/06/17 02:01 PM
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No fucking way am I gonna dress like a pimp and give out treats. No, I just...no. It is weird that it actually works tho. But other, less extreme and desperate, methods do too. And dressing like a dork would make it hard for me to feel self-confident. Now if I were super good-looking, oh fuck yes. Everything you do, if you are good looking, makes you look cute and fun. But a below-average looking guy wearing a pink fedora with a feather and handing out candy? Um, no.
/r/seduction19/06/17 01:58 PM
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Sorry man, if she really wanted to go out with you, she'd make time and not make excuses. Put her on the "maybe, maybe not" list, and move on. Here is a perfect case where abundance mentality will save the day. Go out with other girls, that way you won't give a shit if this girl is gonna go out w you or not, because YOU will be busy. Stop being the text buddy, but keep your options open, delay your replies to her, and always fit in some sort thing you have been doing to make it look like you are…
/r/seduction19/06/17 01:51 PM
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Well, don't look at it like a friendzone thing, because, dude, you fucked her. See it as a girl you hooked up with, stay friendly with her, but drop the 'friendzone' mindset. She was a hook up, that didn't want to hook up again. Still sucks, but hey, you fucked her. Most friendzoned guys never can hope to get that far. Treat her like a girl you fucked, but that you are still cool with. And ya, sorry man, you probably sorta sucked in bed. Work on that.
/r/seduction19/06/17 01:49 PM
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In the case of the OP, the awesomeness he possesses has no way, or is difficult to display when it comes to online dating. I'm not so sure. I am very below average in looks. In my profile, I have 1 or 2 selfies of myself, from a very good angle. The rest of my pics show me hang-gliding, rock-climbing, hanging out w friends, fighting a lego bear. In my profile, i list that I'm a biz-owner, what I am looking for, and make a few light jokes. So basically in pictures and brief profile, I list some o…
/r/seduction19/06/17 01:20 PM
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In your opinion. I fuck way more girls from online dating than I do from just randomly meeting people. Mostly an age thing. After mid-to late 20's, clubs aren't that great of an option. After mid-30's, bars are lame and filled with people who drink way too much and are quickly on their way to being alcoholics. I am not sure why the hate for online dating in this sub. With online dating, you are talking to women who are single and want to date. It's the best captive audience. No worrying if they …
/r/seduction18/06/17 07:49 PM
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Women are never going to just come to you unless you are wealthy and/or extremely attractive. You changed your life, but how do they know that? You have to sell you great attributes to them. They have far more options, so just doing stuff and expecting people to just come up to you is way off base. With your attributes, it sounds like once you learn a little game, you are gonna be rolling in it. Don't act all autistic around them, read the rules here for conversation, KINO, etc, and you will be …
/r/seduction18/06/17 07:45 PM
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I clicked on this, expecting cringe and self pity from someone who should stumbled here from r/foreveralone or something. But nope, OP, this is a great post. I think you touched on some really great points and pretty much agree with everything you said. Great read. Especially your analysis of the oneitis episodes. That's was the same problem I would always have w girls that I got really into.
/r/seduction18/06/17 04:48 PM
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I went from being an awkward guy, who mostly got friendzoned, to fucking more girls in the last 2 years than anyone would believe. All because of this sub. Not all the advice here is good, definitely some guys who give "advice" on here, actually have never fucked a girl. But there is def enough good stuff here to change your life, if you want to change your life. The fact that you think there is no "empirical evidence" leads me to believe you are either a super nerd or have some form of autism. …
/r/seduction18/06/17 04:21 PM
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Reinvent yourself again. Just get in the mode, where the shit in your past is behind you, new you, new game. It's really just mindset. You fucked up, everyone does. Learn from it, start over, and do better this time.
/r/seduction18/06/17 04:13 PM
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Totally. I actually work from home w my own biz. But sometimes I miss working out in the real world, so I will just go apply for jobs that I have absolutely no experience for, just for fun. Game skills pretty much work perfect on job interviews. All about confidence, eye contact, abundance mindset. I have gotten a lot of jobs because I'm a good interviewer. I usually only work there a few months, then bail because, hey I can. But definitely game helped me. If I can get an interview, I almost alw…
/r/seduction18/06/17 03:39 PM
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Where the fuck do you live? It seems every single person you met was from a different country. Overall tho, i think you should take the asian girls advice and slow down a bit.
/r/seduction18/06/17 01:30 PM
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Go for kiss by 2nd date at the latest. Always. Unless it's a super nice, conservative girl, most girls won't take you seriously if you haven't kissed by 2nd date. Unless you are really good looking. But if you are just average, and you don't go kiss by second date, pretty easy to be in friendzone.
/r/seduction17/06/17 02:27 PM
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What? I didn't say that to sound tough. What makes that sound tough? But yeah, I have never had a girl come over to my house for drinks, and she didn't fuck. That doesn't mean every girl I invited over for drinks came over. I'm saying the ones that did come over, I fucked. And most of the ones that didn't, didn't come because in most places that means action. Are you fucking new to the world? Why the fuck would you think I am trying to sound tough on seddit?! You can disagree, but to say that I …
/r/seduction17/06/17 12:29 PM
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Totally understood. I'm just saying that you are a little more rare than you may understand. :)
/r/seduction17/06/17 12:28 PM
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Agreed. I'm just saying that single mothers aren't really low value, just that society may consider them that way. Which is unfair.
/r/seduction17/06/17 12:27 PM
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Yeah, this provides a lot more feedback. Definitely coming on way too hard. You should probably just try to go on a date, and then try for a second date. Making out, and copping feels is way too much for first date for most girls you are connecting with. Slow down. Fucking on the 3rd date is still a win.
/r/seduction16/06/17 05:12 PM
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treat your date like you want to be her friend and be respectful and if she likes you she will sleep with you eventually. Um... Cool that you are trying to help out and all, but for the majority of situations, this is a really bad idea. I agree that OP was probably coming on too strong, but guys should never act like they just want to be friends with a girl. From the very start, we should always make our romantic intentions clear. Doesn't mean saying "let's fuck" but there should always be sexua…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:52 PM
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Obviously you are not american, so I may be missing how interactions work there. Here in US, if I get someone to come to my house for drinks, we're fucking. Chicks here seem to know that, which is why they won't agree to meet at my place unless they kinda want to fuck me. Which is probably why I have 100 percent success fucking them once they get here. Definitely don't have 100 percent success rate getting them to come to my place for a beer. Inviting them for "tea" here in US would never ever e…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:45 PM
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Well, ya it may be german girls. But rather than focus on nationality, maybe, based on your personal lifestyle pref, stay away from any girl that doesn't know how to flirt. Some guys don't know how to flirt, can only be straight-forward and those girls are probably perfect for those kinds of guys. These types of people annoy me and seem semi-autistic, but hey, that's totally their choice and has no effect on me. If it works for them, cool. Me, personally, I like girls that flirt back and know I …
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:37 PM
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And sparingly. Wait for her to initiate contact before moving beyond this stage. This.
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:31 PM
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It's in the sidebar. How I do it is when I am talking, I light touch tap her arm when I make a point as in "you get it! Thank you!!" Something like that. If that worked, then go from there. Just light, quick touching. Then maybe getting close and whispering something funny. And based on response, keeping it up. Never be creepy and just randomly hold or touch with not context. Social mirroring and reading reception is key. And now I don't even think about it. It's just habit. If you go in there t…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:30 PM
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No, wait it out. IF she texts you again, cool, you can carefully pick it up. But if she's the one that bailed on you and deleted your contacts, accept it and move on. If she texts you again, then she regrets her actions. If she doesn't text you again, then odds are she doesn't regret what she did, which means you aren't back in anyway. Move on, and shrug it off. Definitely don't chase her. Not only that, but you told her to text you when she figures her shit out. Why back out on that? Stick to w…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:26 PM
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Actually, I think you did everything well. But she seems like a bitch. Not saying she is a bitch for not being into you, she's totally allowed to not be into you. But I'm saying, in my eyes, she's a sort of bitch for saying stuff like "to assume I am 'bored' although I was clearly..." She is already correcting you and she doesn't even know. Most fun people would know you were being playful and just flirting. The fact that she feels the need to correct you, means she probably isn't the kind of fu…
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:21 PM
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Sure, but no reason to go that extreme. Plenty of fit people still have sugar. Your clickbait is annoying. Stop.
/r/seduction16/06/17 04:13 PM
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How old are you? You seem to be taking stuff very very literally. Friendzone is if a girls sees you as a friend, but doesn't see you in a sexual way whatsoever. What's this group of friends nonsense you keep going on about. Have you asked her out?
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:44 PM
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But if you are looking for a real connection with someone, be real. But not not before the first kiss. This shit is way too much of a downer.
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:20 PM
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"Fought a bear. Had the strength of 4 men. Whole story gets told on 5th date. Till then, you can wonder." Or something. But def don't talk about depression or any shit like that early on. The key is to light, upbeat, someone people wanna hang around with. The deep, "these are my personal problems/past" shit should only come out if it's about to turn into a relationship or you just want to be a close friend. Most people have their own problems and if they don't know you, don't really wanna know h…
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:17 PM
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Single mothers are found to get vastly fewer messages than other women Key to my success. I love single moms. They are way more loyal if you are a decent guy, they are not into looks so much, and most of the time love to fuck. A lot. Me not being fat or a convict has gotten me more single mom pussy than I ever imagined. The girl I am seeing now is one of the hottest girls I have ever been with. Seriously so good looking that I have to be careful not to lose my abundance mentality and revert to b…
/r/seduction16/06/17 03:00 PM
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Don't know why you got downvoted. You are right.
/r/seduction16/06/17 02:54 PM
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Are you doing this for sex or for the feels? Because LDR hardly every works out for sex. My opinion is that LDR works only if you met and were an item before the long distance. As in a gf/bf, then one of them had to move away for a bit, but will be back. Otherwise you just got a penpal, brah. Fuck local girls.
/r/seduction16/06/17 02:53 PM
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You look way better than me, and I still get pussy. I'd trade looks with you anytime. Your smile is gonna get you some serious pussy. I look like a fucking mix between a toad and a rat when I smile. srs Try to have pics taken of you doing something. Show people you are a fun guy in the pics. That with a couple of selfies, and a good humored profile, then you'll be gold. My online profile pics (where I score most of my dating from) showed me fighting a stuffed dino in a museum, hang gliding, hiki…
/r/seduction16/06/17 02:43 PM
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she liked you for not being a push over and being confident. True, but this is what "most" people consider assholes. I agree with you. I always say I never got laid until I became an asshole. Really I just became confident and give zero fucks about what others think. But people wrongly use the word asshole, so I'm not gonna fight it everytime.
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:37 PM
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Agreed. I don't think women really know that's how they are. Some even deny it. But I think it's just a basic instinct for most women, and the do it without realizing it a lot of the time.
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:35 PM
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People hate to admit it a lot, but this is so true. Almost exact thing happened to me. Crushed on girl, friendzoned. 3 years later, after being platonic all that time, started hanging out again, but it was a new me. She had same words, "Jarn, you used to be so nice." Like OP, I had pretty much same response. Fucked her that weekend. What made the difference? I wasn't so much an asshole, per say, but yea, kind of a charming, douchebag. My pretending to kinda ignore her, hit on other girls while w…
/r/seduction16/06/17 01:33 PM
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It's hard to explain. My humor is very quick, very clever, so it's always based on the conversation we are having. And it sounds totally lame out of context, so I don't really have a guide. But I'm unattractive, so the only way I have gotten chicks is thru pure charm. I'm tall and fit, so that helps, but to get over my face, I gotta be really charming. So it's not so much about telling jokes, it's about being clever and fitting my personality. Sorry, I know that didn't help you at all. lol For m…
/r/seduction15/06/17 06:05 PM
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Google is ur friend. But basically it's an app for people to find friends in their local area. Everyone I've ever talked to on there uses it as a dating app, though. US based, not sure about international status.
/r/seduction15/06/17 05:05 PM
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Nice. Now implying that I kill myself. But you call me a bully? I have never advocated or implied violence to anyone or suggesting they off themselves. That's really the route you ended up taking? But you have one good point, i did probably miss all of your other points. Because I don't care. And I still have no idea why you went on a rant and cyberstalked me, even tho you weren't involved in my original post. So this is the second time you have told me bye. And you implied that I should kill my…
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:50 PM
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The problem with this is that less and less people are gonna use Tinder as it becomes more about spambots. So be ready to adapt. I cover all my bases, I have gone out w girls from Tinder, Bumple, MeetMe, POF, and OKcupid, and just meeting them out and about. I do have really good text game tho. This sub is anti-texting, but I met my current gf over meetme and when we gave each other our number, we texted constantly. She moved in w me over the weekend. And still texts me constantly. It's just who…
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:45 PM
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Speaking of jobs, I think I remember you saying earlier you were a student, no real job yet. But you have a apartment and a car. Hmm, how's that work? And I'm not fighting kids on the internet. You went autistic about a post that wasn't even directed to you, and you decided to cyberstalk me in an effort to discredit me...or some weird shit like that. Super weird, considering that I am not ashamed of anything I say. I haven't fought with you at all. I just have replied to your posts. I don't even…
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:37 PM
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k, bye. Hey, tell your mom that I wanna hang out with her. Also, don't forget to renew your meds, cuz something is way off today. And didn't you say earlier you didn't have a job yet? Hmmm, but an apartment and a car...hmmm... But now that we are friends, you are totally gonna hook me up with your mom, tho, right? Does this mean you are done being obessessed with me?
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:30 PM
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Dude, you may need some. I heard it helps with autism. What meds are you on?
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:20 PM
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everyone digs guys with houses and cars. Not that you would know, because you have neither. So when you have all of this mock rage, do you also dream of maybe being able to look someone in the eye when you talk to them? I know a lot of you with autism have that problem. Serious question.
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:11 PM
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So you and your "friend" decided to just go over my post history all night? Aspie much? Why didn't you just read my post from a few days ago where I admitted all of that stuff?! Would have saved u a lot of time. Did you lose your fidget spinners or something?
/r/seduction15/06/17 04:09 PM
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Did you actually spend an entire day stalking my post history! lol Autism much?
/r/seduction15/06/17 01:17 PM
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yeah, if you looked like me, you would be shocked at getting pussy like this. Still don't understand why you think I am embarrassed. I have openly admitted my attributes, and lack of, and still get laid. Proof that this sub works.
/r/seduction15/06/17 01:17 PM
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You forgot about jerking off to tranny porn, experiences with midgets, steroids, fucking a lady that had no teeth, the time I stole from my neighbor and she found out and I had to mow her lawn for a year. For free. Also, you forgot to mention that I have a face like a foot. I have no shame brah, sure it was autistic of you to look up my post history, but don't you think I would delete anything I was embarrassed of? And I own my own company, so you didn't read the severance package post very well…
/r/seduction15/06/17 01:13 PM
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Ok, so you want an example of your weirdness? How you talk in your posts. Ploease don't talk like that in real life. Don't use words like "infinite eccentricity" or "departure from script" or whatever. That's now how normal people talk. Not saying that you are not smart or educated. I'm saying that saying shit like that makes girls run the other way. Unless you are really really good looking. then you can do whatever you want.
/r/seduction12/06/17 04:46 PM
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This works. Almost exactly how I do it. Oh I throw in posture, though. Always work on posture. Gotta look the part too.
/r/seduction12/06/17 04:13 PM
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Um, ok, take this in the nicest way possible. Ok? Not trying to insult you: Trust me, you are weird. I don't mind it. Girls do. Simple fact. Sucks, but it's the way it is. We have to sorta adapt the game to win the girl. We're all gonna make it, brah
/r/seduction12/06/17 04:11 PM
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How cares what it's called, just as long as it "feels" like a date. Some chicks like the word, some girls really overthink it and that word freaks them out. As long as you can get one-on-one time, KINO up, it's all good.
/r/seduction12/06/17 04:06 PM
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Oops. fair enough!
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:54 PM
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Hey I get it, I mean, I was ragging on you, but I get it. I used to be super introverted and nerdy. Weirdness actually is pretty bad. That's an easy trap. Don't let the funny weird nerdy gamers that you see with a hot girl, fool you into thinking that if they can do it, you can do it. That is not what usually happens. Sure, there ARE girls who like weird guys. But we are talking a numbers game here. She's gotta like weird guys, be single, be in your geographical area, AND she's gotta feel chemis…
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:52 PM
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Don't. You are too socially awkward right now to do anything like that. You need to tone down your weirdness in public, not turn it up. It takes really confident people to be able to pull off peacocking
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:29 PM
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Gotta agree with u/Woujo (tho he's an asshole, trust me on this!). You DO seem like a really weird socially awkward guy. First thing you gotta do, stop being weird. Then you gotta stop being soooo needy. You are going about it all wrong. You gotta make yourself a fun, dateable guy first or none of the good advice in this sub is gonna work. It's a cliche, but you gotta work on yourself first. Get used to just going out, being social, talking to men and girls. Once you don't feel so weird doing th…
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:26 PM
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Dude, go buy it on amazon. If you can't afford the price of the book, you really can't afford to be going out and meeting girls.
/r/seduction12/06/17 03:15 PM
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This is 100 percent right on. I lost many girlfriends in the past because I fucked this stage up. Once I learned all of this, that shit got way easier. I can think of a couple of gfs, who were AWESOME, but I fucked up with around the 2 month mark by ignoring the stuff in this post. Basically, don't change what you were doing. Way easier said than done sometimes tho.
/r/seduction11/06/17 06:00 PM
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there's a lot of fucking weed in this story
/r/seduction09/06/17 01:43 AM
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Well then you gotta work on some stuff to make people be into you. That's where you gotta do some personal self-reflection.
/r/seduction09/06/17 12:08 AM
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Oh totally. It ONLY works when people are into you. That's the whole point tho. Knowing when someone is into you, learning to read signals.
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:16 PM
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Go stay in there a while, then come back. Better yet, try to help them and see what happens. Go on, just go do it.
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:14 PM
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Sweet! Good on ya, mate. Totally jealous of you. That's really awesome.
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:12 PM
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Well, if I would have stayed on some path of dumbassary, I would have been forever friendzoned. haha
/r/seduction08/06/17 07:11 PM
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But props for being able to get out several times; it's no easy task! Oh I didn't do it in an admirable way at all. Since I had been friends with them, I totally knew what kind of guys they went for. So I just sorta became each of the girls "go-to trainwreck" kinda guy. I don't regret it, because it was awesome fucking someone you have been crushing on forever. But I definitely knew I couldn't keep the facade up long enough to date any of them long term, because it wasn't the real me. I got out …
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:59 AM
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Ok, I can agree w you that. It is how you handle it, that determines the ultimate income. I've only gotten out of the friendzone 3 times, one of them I dated for a while. Still friends with the rest. but it was only after I chose to pull away from them for a bit, got more confident w game, and then hung out with them again after having been with a lot of girls. And all three girls said, "You seem so different!" I was friendzoned a LOT more than that, but I was only successful changing minds 3 ti…
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:39 AM
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38 to 48 is the age range I most often notice like that
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:36 AM
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Promise it will work better than being a beta male who keeps asking for permission. I used to be a beta male who kept asking for permission. cringe
/r/seduction08/06/17 04:11 AM
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Honestly I almost agree with you, but after working in an office environment with mostly women for the last year, and hearing them talk about it..I think it's different. Rejection can sometimes mean: "No, but not never." Friendzone almost always means, "never gonna happen. Ever." So friendzone is a form of rejection, but I think it's the most rejection. Does that makes sense? Actually was just in car with girl, we discussed your post cuz I was checking comments on this subject. She said "Hell no…
/r/seduction08/06/17 03:53 AM
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Def don't listen to audio version. What's weird is, the audio version I had, the narrator sounded like Donald Sutherland. Which is pretty stately and awesome. I was like, ok, this is gonna be good. I don't know what happened. I honestly came to hate the narrator and the content so much. It's the only book that I actually got angry at. Started out great. First few pages, I was nodding my head, yep, yep, yep. Been there, done that. Yep... But maybe to touch on what you said, the generalizations ar…
/r/seduction08/06/17 02:06 AM
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PRO TIP#2: Saying "I want to fuck you" actually works better than "Dog!" Definitely works better than saying "Here, let me hold your purse while some hot dude gives you his number." This is reddit tho, birthplace of SJW's, so not a lot of people are gonna understand your answer. You are right tho.
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:57 AM
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Don't say with words. But showing that intent with upfront, straight-forward actions, works. A lot. And actually have the right connection, those words can actually be said too. I have had plenty of dates where I said "we are gonna fuck so hard tonight, you know that, right?!" and it worked. All based on the vibe and rapport.
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:54 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:53 AM
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Um, I don't know, maybe. I listened to the audio version, and there was a LOT of stuff about guys crying. Things like "Meet Paul, he came to my office, tears in his eyes, telling me how much he just wanted to be touched, to be loved..." or "Robert sat in our group. Just feeling the comfortable touch of other men, offering no judgement, made him cry. It was love that his mother had never shown him. He realized that he was always trying to please women, because he could never please his mom." Just…
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:37 AM
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You act like this is some super deadly meth and that people who aren't careful with this PUA bizness, are gonna fuck their lives up and ALMOST DIE!! Say what m8?! Why the fuck so serious? Your friend had issues. Getting pussy didn't not cause his life to unravel. Fuck, lots of selfish people live awesome lives! So again, why are you here? Do you go out with girls a lot?
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:24 AM
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Difference between friends and friendzone. The key is to be a friend, but stay out of the friendzone. I work in an office of women. They actually use the word friendzone when they talk about guys creeping up on them that they would never fuck. Friends: never say never, fucking may happen. Just not on the forefront of mind. Friendzone: Ain't gonna happen. Ever.
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:22 AM
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Yeah, best to avoid all things that weren't around in your coming of age years. I mean, sure just because everyone talks like that, and it's comfortable, and it proves you are socially adaptable, let's just not use that. Hey, be sure to tell the kids to stay off your lawn too. and music these days!? Bet we better not get you started!! Right? RIGHT?! Reality, lots of people (and more importantly girls) talk like this. Women also say "bae" and "girl" a lot. But raging against society and insisting…
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:18 AM
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So when the girls says "Met guy at work. He seemed really interesting. But um, friendzoned him. No. Way." and her girlfriends laugh and know what she means. If women think friendzone is a thing, they why would you argue against it? It's like saying there is no such thing as being an alpha male. sure, it's a cliche. Sure, it can be seen as negative. But fuck ya, it's real. The key is not to care about it or not. that's where you are getting muddled up. Most people who don't care, just move on. Bu…
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:15 AM
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Yes it does. It very much does. It's just some people don't see it as a bad thing. but go talk to girls and ask "Hey, serious unrelated question. Do you think there is such thing as a friendzone?" If women think it's real, then it is, regardless of whether you believe or not. Somethings just fall under their fucking rules. And no one is saying anyone is forced to be attracted to you. But chicks totally know the difference between friendzoning a guy and being friends with a guy. Funny that you do…
/r/seduction08/06/17 01:10 AM
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Don't worry about being friendzoned or appearing not alpha enough. She's either attracted to you, or she's not. This isn't really great advice, unless you mean, be confident and don't worry about the results. Because there are plenty of occasions, where the girl will be attracted to you, but early in the game, a couple of misteps can definitely make her lose attraction for you and make you her friend. If you are so confident, that it doesn't bother you if she friendzones you, cuz it's easy to mo…
/r/seduction08/06/17 12:19 AM
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"go on..." That's the only way to make this work.
/r/seduction08/06/17 12:14 AM
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How can so many young europeans just travel around a lot? I read that so much. Like how the fuck do you live if you are just traveling around? How do you afford that? Also, why do you travel around so much? Don't you want a stable job and just chill in a cool medium sized city or something?
/r/seduction08/06/17 12:09 AM
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OP, this is a great post. It's not about going around and saying "Hey I like to fuck girls and I jack off when I'm not!" it's about owning your sexuality, and having no shame in your game. Some people, ok a LOT of people in this sub lately, seem to forget that chicks like to fuck too. I am friends with a lot of girls (I was the "nice guy" "friendzone" guy a lot in my youth). The ONLY good that came from being so many girls bestie, was that I learned they like to, and want to, fuck. A lot. Just a…
/r/seduction08/06/17 12:05 AM
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You don't fuck much, do you?
/r/seduction07/06/17 11:59 PM
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Why are you here? The goal is to fuck women. this isn't a relationship advice sub. This is a get laid advice sub. It's about short term goals. I honestly want to know why you are here. Serious question.
/r/seduction07/06/17 11:58 PM
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It's all about understanding that no matter who you are, no matter what you do, and no matter what you have going on in your life - SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO LIKE YOU. So much truth.
/r/seduction07/06/17 11:56 PM
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It was way too long. But hey, I had some shit to say. But ya, not dissing you at all.
/r/seduction07/06/17 10:41 PM
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In that case you are gonna need a woman to help you or go to malefashion advice... For me, and my lifestyle, pretty low key. I'm tall and lean, so Old Navy. Some dark slim fit jeans, colored medium shirts that fit close, but are not squeeze tight.
/r/seduction07/06/17 08:51 PM
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I'm in shape but on the lean side. I look way better without clothes. I legit had girls go "wow" when I get dressed. Which is flattering, but I need people to say "wow" when the meet me so that the time to see me naked is a lot shorter! So like others have said, wear clothes that fit better. Once I started going for better fit, game improved. For me, my body is very important, because I don't have a great face. I figure if I'm not gonna be handsome, then I better be funny and have a great bod. (…
/r/seduction07/06/17 08:24 PM
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You are totally right. But the way you, and a lot of others word it, is the stereotypical "guy who holds door open for a girl expects her to blow him." I see that exact phrase a lot when talking about nice guys, and my point was it's usually out of a crush situation, not just the guy thinking all random girls should be fucking him because he's so nice. But yes, we mostly agree. I just don't know if it's so much selfish, as misplaced infatuation. I used to have that misplaced infatuation. A lot. …
/r/seduction07/06/17 07:34 PM
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Dude, literally, my life changed in like 5 months. Or I had a mental break, but hey, came out better. Yet another crush rejected me. I took it really cool, w laid back reaction to her. So thank goodness no cringe there. But inside, fucking rage. Not at her. At myself. That was it. I'm skinny, so I looked up how to bulk up and muscle up (skinny guys do it differently than regular fat dad bod guys, which is most of reddit). Knowing that bulking up and gym time was gonna take some time, studied gam…
/r/seduction07/06/17 07:24 PM
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"Hey, I know we're always drunk and have fun and stuff. We cool? I don't wanna mess up what we have, so just touching base with you and seeing where your head is at about things. You know, while we're still sober and I can remember what we're talking about. haha" But match to the tone of the conversations you all usually have. But light with an opening for bigger talk, or it can just stay as is. Generic like that. Most girls will know what that means. If she wants to talk, that will be her signa…
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:58 PM
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Exactly. Took me a long time to realize this, because in my mind, always being there, being on call, seemed better than not being thought of at all. Um, it's not. I'm actually a pretty friendly guy, and I still sometimes get girls trying to confide in me about intimate date stuff (remember, former nice guy). I usually respond by saying "I'm not your gay best friend, so ya, this talk ain't gonna happen. Down for going out for drinks?" Then I usually move on them when we get to bar or move on othe…
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:51 PM
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sorry!! Edited my original post. it's r/deadbedrooms. Basically it's about guys who's hot wives don't fuck them anymore and they beg and plead.
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:36 PM
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You can distinguish yourself from other guys by being "nice" Um....
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:11 PM
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This thread makes me ashamed of ever being a nice guy. Lesson learned. I think it's mostly because they are too outcome dependent, not so much because every chick should fuck them. I was a nice guy, very cringe, and I did most nice guys stuff. Friendzone was pretty much guaranteed every single time. Once I decided that just straight up rejection was better, and I worked out and changed attitudes, and I stopped being the "best friend," I started to get laid way more. I still pretty much suck in r…
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:11 PM
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Then if married they tend to be walked all over and throw their money to please their wife. This. Go to r/deadbedrooms. That whole fucking sub is full of engineer/computer programing dudes who married a chick and now pretty much does everything she says. And they don't even get laid anymore.
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:08 PM
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A "nice guy" is a guy who acts nice not because he's genuinely nice, but because he's expecting to be rewarded for it. I don't think so. I think it's just socially awkward guys who crush on someone, and think that the person will eventually see how awesome they are. I don't think they open doors expecting to get fucked. I think they hold the girls purse, thinking that she will confide in him, fall in love with him, date him. But it's because he likes her, not just randomly thinking he deserves i…
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:07 PM
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Love it. Also, if nice guys spent more time working out, getting tan, and trying to look/act more like chad rather than listening to their crushes talk about chad, their lives would be better. Not so much about being a douche, but about not being so outcome dependent and not placing chicks on a pedestal. Source: I was nice guy. Didn't understand life. Denied by multiple crushes. Got mad. Worked my scrawny body out to become a chad. Tan. Better hair cut. Copied chad. Became a b-grade chad. Get pu…
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:04 PM
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Best description in this thread.
/r/seduction07/06/17 06:00 PM
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Except that book quickly devolves into guys crying, hugging other guys, and blaming most issues on guys not getting love from their mom. It is right about the annoying traits of nice guys tho. But FUCK, there is a lot of crying and guys hugging other guys and just wanted to be loved. Fucking weird.
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:59 PM
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95% of reddit. Basically what most people consider the "nice guy" persona that you wanna avoid, is to only be seen as the friend. So a guy, likes a girl, too afraid to ask her out. Becomes good friends, hoping that she will eventually see how awesome he is. But she becomes his bestie, he hears all about the sex she is having, get's super jealous. then he pouts, wonders why she just "uses" him and gets all mad. Mostly comes from a chick fucking some hot douchebag guy, who fucks her and dumps her,…
/r/seduction07/06/17 05:55 PM
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The thing is, I can grow a beard, but I think they look terrible. Most women I know, don't like them, they just put up with them. So it's really just a fucking fad. I won't do it. in style or not. Fuck that. 3 day growth whatever, stubble, sure, that's cool. But these long ass homeless looking beards make people look like dumbass lumberjacks.
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:29 PM
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I think if you are buff, you can get away with being bald. If you are just regular chubby dad bod or you are fat, or skinny, bald sucks. I am fairly lean and fit, but tall and have all my hair. I would trade my hair for more muscles though
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:26 PM
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Being skinny and weak, being fat and lazy sign the same thing; not that you are "ugly" but that you are physically unfit to keep her safe. You don't have to go fight people, and you probably won't have to, but her mating circuits don't know that, This is so true. I mean, most would argue against. A lot of girls don't want to admit it. But it's pretty true in my experience.
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:24 PM
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Confidence is a lot of it, but how old are you? I have found that any girl over 25ish, find skinny guys unattractive. Never ever ever had a girl tell me she didn't like my muscles. I'm not huge buff or anything, mostly fit. but they always tell me they like my arms and chest. Took me forever to not be skinny. I'm naturally skinny and I fight it every step of the way. I have found that chicks like to feel protected by their guy. So don't be skinny, don't be fat. Fit and lean seems to be the way t…
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:22 PM
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I was really just remarking on OP saying body exercises and a few dumbells are all you need. Trust me tho, I WISH more guys were out of shape. For some reason, and it may be because I live in a fit town, but fuck! I am seeing jacked guys every where I go now. I'm in good shape, but those guys are ruining my game because everyone is buff here. And the fucking beard trend needs to die. So sick of seeing fucking beards. Most chicks are still fat tho. FML
/r/seduction06/06/17 06:14 PM
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Push ups, sit ups, reverse crunches, and dumbbell curls at home. Nothing more. Say what m8? Gonna take a LOT more than than unless you wanna be skinny fat. Guys, stop fucking around and join a gym. It's $10 a month. If you can't fucking afford $10 a month, you can't afford to go out with girls. Actually, I changed my mind. DON'T do any of that. Because I don't need any more competition.
/r/seduction06/06/17 05:48 PM
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So you are a virgin. You also think that not masturbating gives you special powers. So, why are you in this sub again? Dude, you're weird.
/r/seduction05/06/17 04:40 PM
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I have fucked more girls than you have talked to in you life. I don't have to jerk off, I fuck. But I don't think that not jerking off for 90 days is gonna give you super powers. You are fucking fag to think that. Have you ever been with a woman, brah? Srs question.
/r/seduction04/06/17 04:12 PM
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Also, getting laid with real women is way better than beating your meat. This. But thinking that not fapping gives u more enerty, better sleep, beter sport performance, more motivation, enthusiasm? Dude, stop with the cult stuff. You all are just a bunch of autistic guys that get obsessed with stuff. And now you are obesessed with not fapping. Probably just as bad as being obsessed with fapping. Just. Be. Normal.
/r/seduction03/06/17 09:53 PM
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Hug. Every time.
/r/seduction02/06/17 10:54 PM
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You used "I", "I'm" and "I've" 13 times in 5 paragraphs. I'm over this conversation. But you weren't asking for yourself? Right. Take the advice or not. Fuck girls or not. Up to you, brah. Good luck out there.
/r/seduction01/06/17 09:27 PM
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I wasn't even speaking about myself, just in general. Dude, come on now.
/r/seduction01/06/17 09:16 PM
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Dude, stop overthinking. You are worrying about it. You said you suck in social communication. That's the biggest key to success w chicks and in life. So work on that, and stop sounding like you belong in the r/foreveralone sub. There is no "working your head around" stuff. Be confident in yourself, your abilities, and be the best you can be. And ask girls out. And face rejection... A LOT OF fucking rejection. But that's part of the process. We all had to go through it. How old are you?
/r/seduction01/06/17 06:05 PM
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I was reading around and I realized that the red pill is a very hateful subreddit. First thing you gotta do, is stop taking shit so personally. This is reddit. A LOT of the people on this site are either 30ish year old science/engineery guys with dad-bods who have very little experience in the real world of dating, or young neckbeardy nerds who have barely kissed and are pissed at women, so they just decide that can do without. You gotta take forums with a grain of salt. I read the red pill foru…
/r/seduction01/06/17 05:54 PM
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You still got time. 21 is pretty young. I wouldn't worry too much about things. just try to get a gf if ya can
/r/seduction30/05/17 05:42 PM
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Yep. I was a total loser in my teens. Awkward, ugly, tall, and gangly. I did get laid, but very rarely, and I was terrible at it because girls never stayed around long enough to bother. By 30, I was alone, def out of practice and like you, had a very terrible experience with a long time crush. She literally said to me "You don't seem to know what you are doing." while we were having sex. She never hung out with me again. Hired an expensive, smoking hot escort. Told her my entire truth. She taugh…
/r/seduction30/05/17 03:32 PM
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I went skydiving. First time was scary. Went again. Second time was less scary. Went again, it was aweosme. Just like approaching.
/r/seduction30/05/17 03:12 PM
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Totally different conversation if you are a girl. Heck, there are plenty of guys that would prefer a virgin, so it's mostly just a guy thing. Now if you are asking about what I said about marrying a virgin. Well, there is a whole subset of nerdy guys (sometimes religious, sometimes not) who married the first girl they had sex with or only had sex for the first time on wedding night. Sounds romantic, but in many cases, the couple find out that they are not compatible sexually. A stereotypical exa…
/r/seduction30/05/17 03:00 PM
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Yes, but you can get a way with being a virgin at 25. This guy hasn't had sex, and he's 30 years old. He can do all the things you say, but when it comes to bedroom time, he will get outright rejected. I think he should go to an escort, learn how to fuck, and definitely do all the things you listed, so that he can build his confidence.
/r/seduction30/05/17 02:46 PM
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lol, ya it's crazy. Kinda puts everything in perspective! lol
/r/seduction30/05/17 02:44 PM
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You know what? It's the fucking interwebz. We judge people. And ya, I do think you're butthurt and are the exact kind of pussy that OP is trying to talk some sense into. Please do some field reports on how your aspie approach works with women. Please. The fucking autistic crowd on reddit is causing cancer. What the fuck? I know this place is full of engineer/science nerd types, but the fucking aspies around here are taking it to a new level.
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:10 AM
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At 25, you can still squeak by and be accepted for being a virgin. At 30, game changes. At your age, women can still sometimes see you as just cute and shy. At 30, chicks expect you to know how to fuck. Hard truth. I know. I read this post out loud to my coworkers who are all women.
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:05 AM
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Thanks. Some people get hung up on the paying for sex part. I wouldn't recommend it for just any experience. But if someone is 30 or older and has never had sex or even been on a date before, ya, it's extreme circumstances time.
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:03 AM
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the mean cash escorts are the ones I am talking about tho. Expensive, classy. They are like expensive, classy dates. Not the local craigslist meth whores. And yes, they can be a very good introduction to sex and women for someone who is freakin 30 years old and had sex or has even been on a date. Ideal, no? In this case, um, fuck yes. We can agree to disagree, but if you think that there are going to be many attractive, single woman willing to teach a 30 year old guy how to kiss for the first ti…
/r/seduction30/05/17 04:01 AM
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You're right. It is weird to be a virgin at 30. There are some women who won't care, but the odds of you finding them, being confident enough to approach them, and there being a mutual attraction, is gonna be pretty slim. Unless you wanna stick with mormon girls or something, you are gonna have a hard road. So my advice is going to very unpopular. But dude, you should hire some attractive escorts. Tell them what your going thru, and have them teach you how do do everything. Seriously. It sounds …
/r/seduction30/05/17 01:11 AM
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Well, reading is probably harder to learn than approaching. You talking about anxiety and trivializing sounds like you are one of the guys who overthinks shit rather than does it. Do you think it does any more good to say "Oh guys, it's really really hard. You many not wanna do it. I can make you really anxious." ?
/r/seduction30/05/17 01:00 AM
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Yeah, definitely try to maybe work on yourself so that girls don't see the loneliness. Doesn't mean you won't be lonely, just get to a place where they won't sense that you are. Chicks def hate lonely guys. And ya, rejection is gonna happen. In fact, you will get way more rejection than success. Just part of the game all of play, unless we are really good looking. I'm ugly as hell, so I go thru a lot of rejection before I get the girls. lol Seriously, brah, if I can get laid regularly, anyone ca…
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:55 AM
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If you are so scared, then why are you still in this sub?
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:14 AM
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Post this in r/foreveralone then sit back and watch the shitstorm that happens when you tell people that they should actually take control of their own lives and make a choice.
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:10 AM
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So simple. Such common sense. So true. So many people forget it. But you are right on, OP
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:06 AM
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And yet you keep arguing with me about it. Hey, if I was wrong, my bad. Keep on keeping on.
/r/seduction30/05/17 12:05 AM
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Let me guess, you suffer from self pity problems. sigh. Just man up and stop feeling sorry for yourself. It's not that fucking hard. I'm ugly and I still fuck lots girls. Why? Because I stay in shape, worked on my personality and didn't sit around and bitch and whine that I was ugly and couldn't talk to girls. The fact that you stand up for the guy so much, tells me you see a lot of yourself in him. Yeah, ok, feel sorry for yourself for a day or so, then man up and fuck girls. What's the problem…
/r/seduction29/05/17 11:06 PM
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Because this is a public forum where people discuss shit? Why u on reddit bro?
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:56 PM
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So much this. So many guys play vid games 24/7, avoid getting jobs, and wonder how come their life sucks and they can't get girls. Reddit is getting ridiculous with the self pity stuff.
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:28 PM
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go over to the foreveralone sub, read for a few days, and let me know if you are still ok with self-pity. I'm with Jack__Knife. These people who wallow in so much freaking self pity annoy me too.
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:27 PM
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You nofappers are becoming a cult. Dude, there is nothing in his post that suggests it's because he faps. Also, stopping fapping does not give your powers or transform your life. You guys are just as pathetic as the people who are addicted to fapping. Being addicted to not fapping is just as bad.
/r/seduction29/05/17 10:26 PM
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it's at reddits attitude to people like me. "People like me." Are you fucking serious brah?! You problems are minor compared to people who have mortgages, child support, barely hanging on to marriages because of job situations. You aren't even close to being in a minority when it comes to debt. 30K debt is NOTHING compared to what most working adults have. What the actual fuck?!
/r/seduction29/05/17 07:19 PM
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So why is it so bad that I take those days to relax drink beer and play video games before I go and work myself to death more So you admit that on your days off, all you do is drink and play vid games. Then you say you are sexually frustrated? Dude, do you think that woman really find a guy who drinks beer and plays vid games, exciting enough to stand out from the pack if you aren't super good looking? I can't even understand how you fail to see that you sound like a slacker/loser when that is a…
/r/seduction29/05/17 07:10 PM
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Why are you in this sub? Serious question.
/r/seduction29/05/17 06:04 PM
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Keep them short. Try to have a funny set up, as if crazy shit happens to you every day. The key is you gotta make the short, like soundbites. You can't "tell a story," you gotta just flow it into conversation. Actually storytelling is my game. It works really well for me, but you gotta pick and choose or you become the comedian that people want to hang out and laugh with, but not fuck. But clever and funny, don't be hilarious. chicks don't fuck hilarious. I was the funny guy who girls always wan…
/r/seduction29/05/17 03:59 PM
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Why is it disrespectful? Not a lot of people are happy to give a list about why they don't like you. Most people like to avoid conflict. She let you down easy, was direct. You gotta move on. The traits you are showing just in this post and thread make you come across as really needy and controlling. Something chicks hate and can smell a mile away. When I date girls, sometimes we talk about dates, hates/dislikes. A really common complaint that girls talk about are guys who can't just take a rejec…
/r/seduction29/05/17 03:50 PM
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Brah, feels for you, but it's was one date. One rejection. Forget it, move on. Just the fact that you are so annoyed by it proves it wasn't a good fit. She's probably already forgot your name. So forget hers.
/r/seduction29/05/17 03:47 PM
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ahh, perfect. And perfect wrap up of OP's post. American Psycho for the win! I read that in Christian Bales voice and now I wanna read the book again.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/17 02:09 AM
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No way to put this lightly. You sound like a fedora-wearing, autistic dude. Like your theory, but dude, you are fucking way out there. Like, as in, aspie alert! aspie alert! But hey, good on ya if it works for ya.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/17 02:08 AM
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Even the awkward girls like someone who knows what they are doing so that they can be guided. I know, I have dated awkward girls before, and they liked not having to do anything! Totally happy with me taking charge
/r/seduction21/05/17 02:17 AM
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Good to hear. So many people obsess about their relationships with their parents. Which is so weird to me. I mean, if you are an adult and pay your own bills, your parents have no control over you whatsoever. Sounds like you are on the right track.
/r/seduction20/05/17 08:56 PM
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Very few girls are into really into awkward guys. That only happens in the movies. Work on your self-confidence and don't be awkward.
/r/seduction20/05/17 07:09 PM
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Not frustrated. Just confused at why you don't see that men crying and being needy wouldn't be attractive to most women. But hey, if that works for you, go for it. Be sure to post and update for us so we can see how it goes for you.
/r/seduction20/05/17 07:07 PM
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This post screams insecurity. Says the guy that supports men crying and wanting hugs. Um....
/r/seduction20/05/17 07:06 PM
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No, it's just the men in this books examples are needy, whining pussies who cry over how their mom raised them, and they yearn for hugs. Chicks don't dig that. Which is why they aren't getting any pussy. Good luck out there with your attitude.
/r/seduction20/05/17 06:47 PM
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Most women find neediness in men a very unattractive trait.
/r/seduction20/05/17 06:46 PM
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Thank you for saying that. These guys in this thread are crazy. It's like they haven't read anything else in this sub. Neediness, crying, being nice guys. No wonder they aren't getting dates. They need to read the posts in this sub
/r/seduction20/05/17 06:45 PM
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Are you telling me that you have never heard girls complain about guys being pussies? Dude, come on... You must not get out much then. Most women find neediness in men a very unattractive trait. Why are you all in this sub if you aren't going to follow any of the advice?
/r/seduction20/05/17 06:43 PM
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Yeah, definitely stop taking that friend, but do what he does. Obviously he has some sort of charm or something going on. Unless it's strictly his looks. Then for sure cut back on taking him.
/r/seduction20/05/17 04:30 PM
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Do you think it's crucial to make amends with your father to fully overcome nice guy syndrome? OR you could stop worrying about your past, just concentrate on who you are now and your future. Stop blaming your parents, even if they deserve blame. You are not a little boy anymore. Get over it, ball up, fuck girls.
/r/seduction20/05/17 04:27 PM
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But do you think women really wanna be with guys who act like women? Sure, guys have emotions, but crying (as in real tears) about their low self esteem, and wanting more hugs?! What the actual fuck is going on? Is low-testosterone becoming rampant in modern guys now? (I actually think this may be really happening.) If you think women really want that, you haven't learned anything from this sub. I had a date last night. First date with her, just coffee. We were talking about dating scene. She ac…
/r/seduction20/05/17 04:22 PM
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I think Models was a way better book, and dealt with some of the same issues. No More Mister Nice Guy was way too focused on guys crying and weird mommy issues. What grown men cry and complain about their relationships with their mothers? But damn, the crying. So many men crying in that book and yearning for hugs from other guys. WTF?!
/r/seduction20/05/17 04:00 PM
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Dude, what is with you and askseddit!? Did you create the fucking sub or are you just autistic?
/r/seduction28/03/17 02:12 AM
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I know this is a joke and I'm late to the party, but I did do all of those things you listed for men (except for 6/10 face), and it did work wonders. No joke. I literally did it, even the light tanning part--I hit tanning salon twice a week. Just enough for a very light tan. Sounds lame, sounds cliche, but it worked for me. I had a lot of casual sex before I met the girl I am dating now. And she's skinny!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 11:06 PM
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Harsh but true.
/r/seduction15/02/17 01:33 AM
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Brah, don't go looking up people on FB and then messaging them unless they ask you to. Creepy as fuck.
/r/seduction15/02/17 01:31 AM
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Hint: Don't first message a girl with "what up?" or "hi" or "You're hot." From girls I talk to, 90 percent of messages they get are those. I always say hi, introduce myself in 3 sentences, then say "check out my profile and if you're interested, let's chat." That way they don't HAVE to go to trouble of looking at my profile right away, because I have said a little about myself. So easier for them I just don't get the complaints from you guys, seriously. It must be a regional thing. I live in a c…
/r/seduction14/02/17 10:14 PM
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I feel for ya man, seriously. It's harder for some of us. Just don't give up. Try to improve yourself a little bit at a time so ya don't get overwhelmed. I don't have any quick, easy advice for you. It was hard for me too, and I used to get nervous just thinking about messaging a girl. But I got to the point where I had nothing going for me in life, so I really had nothing too lose. I was a late bloomer too. Only two brief gf experiences by the time I was 30. I didn't even start going out until …
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:44 PM
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He was a douche. Not even sure what he's doing in this sub
/r/seduction12/02/17 05:27 PM
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To be honest, I don't get too many shit test situations happening. The STD thing threw me. Both chicks who mentioned it were closer to 40, so may be an age thing too.
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:32 PM
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Decisions, decisions. Actually I do want a relationship, but I'm fucking girls until I find one. Not the best plan, but I'm making up for lost time.
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:26 PM
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Ha!
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:25 PM
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What the fuck sub do you think you're in? This sub is how to learn to get and bang girls. You new here? Seriously, what the actual fuck? I was super shy and beta most of my life. I had a kid when I was 19 years old by the very first girl I screwed, worked a lot to pay child support. Had to drop out of college. Was single parent with 2 jobs till my kid grew up. Lived w me full time. Fuck ya, I have low self esteem and overcompensate with humor because my looks don't cut it, tho I gotta disagree w…
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:23 PM
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You're in your late 40s and just learned game from this sub? Nice trolling. O_o I wish I had a better reason, but I was a fucking pathetic beta cuck for most of my life. Super skinny, super shy. I dated very little. Mostly friendzone situations. I thought being the super nice guy was how to do it. Got friendzoned by someone that I almost fucked and had super feels for. Ya, so pathetic; I got frienzoned in my 40's. Started TRT (Testosterone Replacement Theory), started working out. Realized that …
/r/seduction11/02/17 04:08 PM
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Good points!! This is what I am talking about. Good advice. Deflect and go on offense. I fall back to my old ways of defending everything.
/r/seduction11/02/17 03:56 PM
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Yep, I STILL do this a lot. Unless I follow this sub pretty regularly, my game always gets soft and I get into bad habits. I just fucked up this last week with an awesome chick. I was totally in. Then I just sorta fucked up and fell back into old habits and lost the momentum and couldn't build up attraction. It went from her telling me she couldn't wait to see me to "not sure what I'm doing this weekend. May go out. May not." I couldn't get it back after that. My mistake was I texted too much ba…
/r/seduction10/02/17 10:53 PM
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That's the kind of response you can give to the haters. No worries, brah, we're all gonna make it.
/r/seduction10/02/17 10:49 PM
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Wouldn't it be awesome if every girl just said what she meant? Doesn't really happen that way. This chick isn't consciously testing him or anything. But she's not very interested. Some people just don't wanna say "not interested" and beat around the bush and just be neutral. When you are goin out with a girl in the early stages, her being neutral is a bad sign. She should be into you enough to wanna see you again and be happy to talk about it.
/r/seduction10/02/17 07:52 PM
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Do you date? One of the biggest parts, in the beginning before you really get to know her, is trying to interpret what a chick means compared to what she says. Those who can are more successful. It'd be great if it weren't all a game and everyone was just straightforward, but that's not the way most girls do it. I agree and think OP should move on.
/r/seduction10/02/17 07:47 PM
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Maybe it's a cool vid, but don't get so touchy about people not wanting to watch. You obviously posted here so you could get more views/hits on your vid. That means you also gotta man up and accept some people are just gonna think you are out for clicks and trying to monetize something that most get for free in this sub. Getting butthurt and telling someone not to comment because they don't wanna watch makes you seem sorta desperate. Your response to deejay_1 made me decide NOT click on your vid…
/r/seduction10/02/17 07:42 PM
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lol I'm not into huge tits either, but if you think she is fat, I can see why you are mgtow. Totally makes sense for this sub
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 09:45 PM
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geesh, if you guys think that is ugly, then fuck! No wonder you all are bitter and gave up on women and society. Good luck trying to find better. Do you really think your bald heads and beerguts are gonna get hotter chicks than this? Dude! That chick is fucking gorgeous. I'd be smashing that bod all day. I hate fat chicks, trust me, she aint fat. Yet. Will she be an ugly hag at 55, ya, maybe, but I wouldn't be fucking her when she is 55.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 04:15 AM
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I've had a few threesomes. I gotta be honest though, I've never set them up. Usually it's always the girl that does it. If she's into girls, then every once I'll say shit like "damn, I ain't jealous. You can have a girlfriend anytime, bring her on over. Then you would know how much of a pain in the ass having a gf is! haha" or some kidding shit like that. I have good enough game to get with girls who like threesomes, but never enough game to just make threesomes happen. It's a tricky thing. And …
/r/seduction03/01/17 04:11 AM
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Yeah, you are being weird. You talked about her camera angle that hid her 30 lbs overweight. She's not. You broke it down section by section. Left shoulder, head and neck, curve of her tits. You just go so into it. You are like an engineer or computer programmer breaking everything into section. Just kind of a weird nerdy thing to do.
/r/MGTOW03/01/17 01:34 AM
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You are being weird, bro. She's pretty hot. IN all angles and not fat: https://www.instagram.com/emilyhelenbarry/?hl=en Is it tiring to be that suspicious of all women all the time?
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 11:40 PM
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I like how he breaks it down, implying 'meh, not that hot." As if he'd ever had/have a chance w a girl like this in his life. lol
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 11:30 PM
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Why the hate? This chick is hot. Now you all don't like boobs either? Stahp!
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 11:26 PM
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What the fuck abyss have you all fallen into to think this shit is all real? Not every chick is out to get you. lol
/r/MGTOW02/01/17 11:24 PM
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Everyone, and especially newbies should read this. Great insights.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 10:14 PM
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Play things as cool in text as you do in real life. And vice versa.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 10:09 PM
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Yep, it's one step away from being the ForeverAlone sub. In fact, I would think that most of the foreveralone guys will end up in mgtow when they get older.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 09:05 PM
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Yeah, it's like a lot fo guys in this sub don't live in 2016. Chicks like to text and snapchat. It's their fucking thing. I just talked to a girl at work who said she broke up with a guy because he never texted her and it annoyed her.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 09:03 PM
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I don't think I want to take advice from someone who ever thought it was a good idea to send his girl dog memes on dog memes. So much this. I realize that most of us started out as beta fucks, but I was never beta enough to ever think that would be a good idea. Text game is very important. Ignore it and lose out on a lot of chances. Don't be a pussy in real life. Don't be a pussy over text. But texting is totally fine as long as you aren't a dumbass about it.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 09:01 PM
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Leave the "Dinner @ 6 see u there" type of texting to your Pops So much this. I see guys that say they are doing that and I just don't believe it. No girl I have ever been with would respond to no texting and then getting a message like that.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:59 PM
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Ok, I can accept this explanation. I always wondered why so many are anti-text since it gets me laid more often than not. But yeah, if someone is inclined to send dog memes, they would be better to give up the text game. Don't be a beta in real life, don't be a beta in text.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:58 PM
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Agreed! OP lost all credibility when he mentioned dog memes. Yeah, guys that think that is ever ok, should cut back on texting. But as long as you aren't some beta fuck who is trying to act like their bestie, texting works more than it hurts.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:56 PM
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Agreed. I don't get why people have such bad luck texting. It works great for me. I've gotten laid plenty of times after texting for a week or two. Some people like to now you aren't a serial killer. But I'm not super good looking. I think if you are really good looking, you can get away with the 'mysterious' thing and rarely texting. But us average guys, we sorta have to show that we aren't stalkers or too weird. Of course, I always try to meet really early in the game, I don't text too long be…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:54 PM
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Dude, you sent dog memes? For real? Yeah, glad you got past that! lol
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:44 PM
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Yep. I have never had an issue with texting. Most times, if the girls isn't texting you, she's not into you. If's she texting you good morning every day and sending pics of herself in traffic, she's into you.
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I feel like the people who are anti-texting in this sub, must not really talk to many girls. Youngers girls text nonstop. If you don't have good text game or don't reply, they'll move on. Chicks like to to text. A lot. But like OP's message says, don't latch on like a puppy dog. But if she is a regular texter, then you better be too or she'll be fucking someone who is. I've always been super lucky in the text game. In fact, if I am hanging out with a chick that doesn't like to text, I hard…
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 08:39 PM
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That describes 95% of reddit. Almost 100% of mgtow sub!!
/r/TheRedPill24/12/16 07:57 PM
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Same thing happened to me when I linked something. Not sure why this sub hates links to another reddit sub, but ya, sucks!
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 09:47 PM
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I accept what women tell me. 5'9 is short. And I also think you know that but just really really wish that it wasn't. Also when I google 'average height for male' I get results that say 5'10 and 5'11. Which means you are shorter than average. Sorry man. But again, not THAT much shorter. So relax. And when I said "even tho I'm tall" I was just going by your stats. In real life, I definitely don't stand out as tall since I'm only 6' Seriously I live by an american high school. Lots of kids in high…
/r/TheRedPill18/12/16 04:52 PM
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I already told you that at 6ft I was pretty average where I go. I actually think that 5'11 or 6ft is pretty average now. They need to update stats, because I think most of thos figures come from the 80's and 70's. You're 5'9 and you are short. You are talking about wearing boots and trainers, well the 6ft people will too, so even if you fake it and try to make yourself taller, the tall people are still taller. Here's the thing. People of normal height, don't worry about what shoes to wear to mak…
/r/TheRedPill17/12/16 06:55 PM
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LMAO guy, come on. It's over. You are fucking short. You are a fucking manlet. You will never go on a date, where afterwards, the woman runs home, txts her friend and says, "Oh my God!! Tugsmugs is so tall. Can you believe it?! He's 5'9"!!! Imagine. Five foot, NINE inches!! Holy shit, so tall!" Dude your fucking short. Stop it. Now look on the bright side, you will live longer than me. Also all of these statistics you're obsessed with were made in the 80's. People are even taller now. I see lots…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 11:07 PM
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Dude, give it up. You are short. You know you are short. Women consider you short. You know you are short, that's why you know every single statistic about height. But you aren't horribly short. Here, let's try something for fun. Got to google, and type "Average height for American male" and it say s average height is 5'10" That's average. You are shorter than that. You are SHORTER THAN AVERAGE american male. You just are. And girls like taller guys. https://www.google.com/search?q=Is+5%279%22+s…
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 07:30 PM
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Dude, let it go. You're short. 5'9 is a full inch shorter than 5'10, so using that as your 'almost' doesn't work either. Also, where are you getting your facts?! Black guys are not shorter on average than white guys. lol Hispanics, yes, I will give you that one. In America, where I am, 5'9 is short. Don't let it run your life, but ya, you're shorter than average. And you know it, which is why you are putting up such an argument about it and why you know so much about height averages. So ya, you …
/r/TheRedPill16/12/16 12:33 AM
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Making a girl cum and beg and shower you with gifts and affection is something MGTOW's will never experience and I pity them for it. Yep. Not that I view women as slaves or anything like that. I love women. But having her shower me with attention and work to keep my interest is definitely a great feeling. And MGTOW's are missing out on so much by boxing themselves up.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/16 09:13 PM
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Even in USA 5'9 will not be considered short(check it on online forums and etc.) Sorry, but here in the US, most people consider 5'9" short. The online forums are usually short guys telling you they aren't short. Ask any woman tho, and 5'9 is short. Most people I know are at least 5'11. Many are over 6'. I'm 6' and I definitely don't stick out as tall. So maybe over there in europe, you're average. Here, you're short. No question about it. Not that it's a bad thing, but ya, that's short man. And…
/r/TheRedPill13/12/16 09:10 PM
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| It doesn't count as MGTOW if nobody wants to be around you anyway. That statement totally covers the whole MGTOW sub!! haha
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:27 PM
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True. Once, in between relationships, I was bored and spent a little time getting to know some high-end, super hot escorts. I did this for about 2 months. The sex was hot, had threesomes, explored everything, every fetish, but afterwards, it felt totally empty and not worth it. Having sex with a girl who is totally into me and then we can grab a movie right after or something, and flirt and then fuck again, ya, that's the life. The MGTOW men that think just fucking escorts will satisfy their nee…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:26 PM
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MGTOW is infested with incels. Yeah, I didn't even know what the incel sub was. They are even worse that MGTOW. Like, totally insane. I actually got banned from there because I told someone to lighten up and now all women were bad. Most of the replies to me were "Fuck off Normie, go home. Fucking normies have no business here!!" Then I got banned.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:26 PM
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Sorry to hear you're short. And that gay stuff scares you. :? I'm 6ft, and I THINK gaylubeoil is a joke about steroids, and not about being gay. I think.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:24 PM
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These dudes are just foreveraloners who won't admit it. True. There is SO much overlap between the two. Most foreveraloners grow up to be MGTOW and vice versa. They are practically the same thing, except it seems more MGTOW guys have jobs.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:18 PM
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I honestly think that both men in your examples were probably what we would call Asperger's today. The were probably awkward as fuck to be around. And Edison was smart, but from all I've heard, he was a straight up asshole.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:14 PM
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You know it's really easy not to have kids. Right?! You don't have to avoid fucking women just because you don't want kids. Wear a condom. And then pull out as well. I wear a condom, when I'm about to bust a nut, I pull out, pull the condom off and nut all over her. I've been doing this my entire adult life. Fun every single time. And never had a pregnancy scare. Not even once. Not to mention that you can always just get clipped if you are sure you never want children.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:12 PM
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I'm MGTOW because I am (was) hounded by "professional" GoldDiggers. I never understood this. Unless you advertise that you are wealthy or something, how would women know enough to hound you?! I go on a lot of dates, do online dating, meet up with people, and no one ever asks me how much money I make.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:10 PM
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So why did you choose MGTOW?
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:06 PM
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Of course, maybe that's because I'm closer to 40 than 30. Turning 40 doesn't make you lose interest in getting pussy. This is a great time to get laid. Most chicks this age have calmed down and really just wanna enjoy sex and don't really give you too much hassle.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:04 PM
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Most of them don't want to bother with sexual strategy and I don't blame them, it's a hassle. That seems like such a weird stance to me. Even wild animals have to have sexual strategy. If you don't want to put any effort into it, then you are never gonna get the reward. Anything worth having, is worth preparing and working for. Are you just not into sex or something? Have you ever had really mind-blowing sex? Having said that, I get that worshiping women, and gearing your whole life around them …
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 11:01 PM
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How many relationships have you been in? You seem so anti-woman. How old are you?
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:52 PM
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So I'm curious, if you haven't really had a real relationship yet, why are you giving up already?
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:51 PM
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The original mgtows weren't younger men that were giving up, but older guys that got cleaned the fuck out in divorce and needed a place to vent Still plenty of those guys on that sub. It's like they can't get over their anger.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:50 PM
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So why did you choose the MGTOW route?
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:41 PM
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MGTOW is a case of losers redefining victory so that they can have an imaginary participation trophy. So much this. It's hard to stay in the MGTOW sub for too long before you start to think they are all balding, overweight men who have been awkward around women all their lives, so they just give up and try to say it's their choice and they feel better. That place it so toxic. The few that HAVE had women, seemed to marry the first one they were with, got a divorce and think that every woman is ou…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:36 PM
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If I ever get divorced I won't be making the acquisition of new pussy a priority I don't know about that. Once you're divorced, new pussy makes things feel a lot better.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/16 10:26 PM
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I just think too many people overplay meditation. It's not that amazing. And it's also not that hard to relax. I don't need deep awareness and insight. I know myself pretty well. The world ain't that deep.
/r/seduction07/12/16 08:36 PM
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So many posts in this sub mention meditation. I don't think it's THAT important. You can relax without meditation. It's not that hard.
/r/seduction07/12/16 12:24 AM
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Yep, and those looks you get from the younger women is because younger women appreciate a fit guy more than older women. And trust me, I don't need a girl to be super fit (I WISH!). In fact, I have only really been with 2 or 3 girls that were really fit. Rest were just normal girls. It's the waist being smaller than the hips. Um, ya, that's hard to find in women past 40. Or even 35 sometimes. It's like they let it all go pancake and just stop caring. Very frustrating. I wish I could be attracted…
/r/seduction17/11/16 03:21 AM
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All good points. But I still think genetics plays a bigger factor here than some people admit. Anybody can get into decent shape if they work hard enough, not everyone can get to pro bodybuilder shape tho. So I weigh 185 lbs (started out at 150), and I eat 4200 calories a day. Not active at all in my job. I can lose 10lbs in 3 days if I went to my old eating habits. I can literally eat one meal a day and then forget to eat. I only eat for fuel now and I eat every couple hours. 7 times a day. And…
/r/seduction17/11/16 12:20 AM
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You know, I hear this a lot. But you know what? Some guys are naturally thin. And ya, eating more and lifting more, makes you bigger. But let's be honest, some people put on muscle weight faster than others. Genetics, size, etc have a lot of say in that. I'm 6ft. Naturally skinny. I have to eat a shit ton to gain weight. And I lift. But some manlets put on muscle twice as fast as me and while eating less than their tdee. So ya, there is such a thing as hardgainer. Some people have much more diff…
/r/seduction16/11/16 11:47 PM
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I'm 47. Most of the advice here holds up if you slightly adapt to age. Like you, I'm fit and I date more than I have ever before. One minor problem. And I'm gonna be blunt. Most chicks our age are fat. On dating sites they always say "average" but average today, is 30 pounds overweight. At least. Soooo many fat chicks. Very depressing. So I actually had to start lying about my age. Luckily I look super young. So I'm 40 and I hit on girls in 30's. Even when I say I'm 40, most don't believe and an…
/r/seduction16/11/16 09:25 PM
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This. OP called her fat. I can't even comprehend how OP is wondering where he screwed up? He implied a chick was fat.
/r/seduction16/11/16 09:17 PM
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"So I replied "I don't know but maybe I should take you out for a nice meal since I know you'd love that" While kinoing her belly and pinching her stomach." DUDE! What the fuck were you thinking? You never ever ever, pinch a chicks belly and imply weight. Even if she is skinny. The touching wasn't bad, but talking food and pinching her belly. Oh holy fuck, son. What have you done? Women feel fat. ALWAYS. Don't ever do that again. Not even in jest. Never. Sometimes you can get away if you have be…
/r/seduction16/11/16 09:13 PM
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This is a lot of common sense, but all true. So so true. Good to read and it's a great reminder. Unless you are really good looking or rich, you really gotta go out and fucking work your ass off to get what you want. And even good looking rich people have to do that. In the end, no one owes us shit. We gotta do it ourselves and go out there and take over the fucking world. Good job, OP!
/r/seduction03/11/16 01:12 AM
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Exactly! I've found that girls in their mid-30's is the sweet spot. Still young enough to be hot, but old enough to not play so many mental games.
/r/seduction12/10/16 06:36 PM
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Yep, there's a fine line between not giving a fuck and looking like a total slob. Chicks like guys who dress well, but still don't seem to give a fuck. Seems like you got that down. Awesome, brah!
/r/seduction12/10/16 06:35 PM
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irst thing, you are going to find many 40+ women are horney as fuck Not only that, but they want to fuck and love to fuck. They know how to by this age. I mean, I have dated chicks who squirted, who begged for anal, who love swallowing cum. It's like they hit 40 and BOOM sex machine.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:16 PM
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Glad you mentioned the mall, as that was one of the places I was thinking of Don't look like a fucking mall dad tho. If you are wearing faded jeans (dad jeans!), a belt, a denim shirt tucked in, brown hushpuppie shoes or hikers, and a generic earthtones hat with bentover brim, you look like a mall dad. Don't do that.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:15 PM
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However, online dating sucks for men. It is a market heavily skewed toward women. I've found out for women in their mid to late 30's and older, online dating is the way to go. They don't go to clubs or bars and stuff. usually have jobs, kids. They are the ones that date online because of no other options.
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:13 PM
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Hey! A question I can answer. I'm 47! For guys our age, the game is a little different. Some basics are the same tho. Like always be confident, and give off the vibe that you are here to take over the world and people can come with or just watch. Zero fucks given. Older women LOVE a guy who knows what he wants and goes for it. Also, online dating. Chicks our age and in mid to late 30’s don’t really go to clubs or appreciate cold approach that much. They are nervous about stalkers, weirdos and st…
/r/seduction11/10/16 09:09 PM
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You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I was pointing out that I'm not that great looking, so I had to play up my other strengths. No you don't have to have in interesting job or be tall and fit. But those are some of my positives, so I played those up, rather than my weakness which is my looks. I don't have this all wrong, I have plenty of success with women, mostly due to the things I've learned in this sub.
/r/seduction06/10/16 03:01 PM
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You meet via Tinder or dating app. Meet for coffee, or at a park. Find someone a little more nerdy and introverted like yourself.
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:11 AM
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Well then you wish will come true. You are definitely going to stay single. Good luck out there.
/r/seduction06/10/16 04:10 AM
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And hey bro, I just gotta say, you fit the cliche stereotype of guys who can't get girls. Fedora. Pencil thin mustache. Etc. You are a good looking guy, but the hat and mustache is what people usually make fun of. But if you are pulling in tail, in spite of the nerd in a fedora look, they you have hella game. Mad respect to ya. Serious. But you have good game now, imagine what would happen with a slight fashion/look upgrade. Dude, you'd be slaying!!
/r/seduction05/10/16 08:04 PM
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I gotta say tho, I know this sub hates texting. But some chicks just love to text and will bail if you don't text enough. I've had a LOT of success in my text game. I'm always surprised to see how much this sub hates texting. For some girls, it's their way of 'talking.' Always wanna meet asap, but ya, good text game can keep them thinking about you. So you can not text, but she'll just fuck that other guy who IS texting her.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:53 PM
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Fedora. Pencil thin mustache. Nope! Didn't even watch. Just the pic tells me that I ain't gonna be into hearing advice from a guy who looks like that. Dude, a fedora? A fedora. Please tell me that's just parody or something.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:40 PM
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So blunt. So graphic. So fucking true. (Had to do this myself and it sucked.)
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:37 PM
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Truth!!
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:19 PM
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If you aren't wiling to go out of your comfort zone and be social, then you aren't gonna get a girl. Reality. Even ugly guys get laid if they are social enough. So unless you are rich, you gotta ball up and do it. You can still stay in, just don't stay in all the time.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:18 PM
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My life may not fit your standards, but I am enjoying it how it is. I won't give that up just to meet a women. Then you will enjoy your life alone. Maybe try /r/mgtow But you don't have to give up your life to meet women, just go out there and meet women. But if you like being a hermit and staying in playing vid games, gf prolly ain't gonna be in your future.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:08 PM
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Dude, I was the same way. You gotta play up ur strengths tho. I'm not great looking, but I'm 6ft tall, fit, and have all my hair. I'm not interesting, but I have an interesting job. So I played those things up. Cool pics of me doing stuff and smiling. And playing up my job. You have to put yourself out there. Know that you're are going to get rejected. A lot. But you get better at presenting yourself. I see people in this sub shit on online dating and texting. but I get laid a lot from online da…
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:04 PM
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It's the interwebs. It's full of whiny bitches. And, obviously, potheads.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 03:57 PM
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Thanks. I am.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 03:56 PM
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No, I'm just surrounded by fucking potheads.
/r/MGTOW21/09/16 03:56 PM
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A lot of men have to totally change their entire lifestyles for some pussy Fair enough. I'd just point out that it's not really a difficult thing to do in order to get a girl, have fun, and keep having a life. Just not much of a change or time investment. You mentioned that the guys here have been sold a different story. Ok, fair enough. So now that they know, they can adapt and act accordingly. But to go on and on about how women rule the world, and no pussy is good pussy (OP actually called it…
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 08:29 PM
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Listen, I have no problems with what you are saying. But the vast majority of people in this sub aren't just thinking, "oh hey, dating and women are cool, but I think I'm gonna back off a bit, do my own thing.." Are you telling me that you haven't noticed the swelling of outright hatred and rage for women on this sub? That's the point I was trying to make. Hey to each their own. I wish more guys thought like you, because the less of you dating, the more women available for guys like me. So no wo…
/r/MGTOW19/09/16 04:35 PM
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this! Like who the fuck is talking marriage in their early 20's on a dating site?! lol Definitely not Chad! That's what makes Chad so fucking awesome!
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 05:43 PM
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Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT). Best thing ever!
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 05:43 PM
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This post is so much cringe.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 05:25 PM
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Brah, you are using terms like, "human females." That fucking screams virgin basement dweller! Come on, just don't be so weird around women. I'm not saying you are a virgin, but when you talk like that, it sounds like you are a virgin who has had nothing but bad experiences with women. Seriously, have you ever seen a tv show--besides big bang theory or a science documentary--ever refer to women as "human females?" That's just not how normal people refer to women. It's weird. No excuse. No explan…
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 04:58 PM
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Ok, whatever.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 03:01 PM
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Hmm, good points and a vaild argument. I guess this post was just the one that pushed me over the edge. I mean in the title he stated "naive hope to taste a pussy" and that's not very difficult to do. So by saying "naive hope" it really sounded to me like OP was making it impossible thing meet women, have sex, yet spend very little money doing so. And plenty of other posts stated the same kind of implications. So that's why I asked. Um, LOTS of people in reddit make fun of this sub, so I checked…
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 03:01 PM
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I'm not "female." Which by the way, most people just say "women" or "chicks" or something. But "female"? Have you ever been with a girl, brah? But ya, I'm a guy. Why do you think I'm a woman? Feel free to check my post history, brah.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:56 PM
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I like your attitude, but that is not the attitude I was getting from the rest of the sub. But I like yoru explanation. I guess the thing is that I just don't spend much money hanging out with women. And the time investment is less that I spend watching netflix. I get laid a few times a week, and it's a couple of hours here and there. But ya, if it was a marriage, that would be way different. So you all better be building ships or airplanes or something with all this extra time and money you all…
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 02:55 PM
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I like that vid a lot more than his first one. Still think that the camera is helping his game out more than his personality though. I'd love to see it done with a hidden camera. No doubt he has bigger balls that I do though. I'm not at a place where i can can randomly walk up and kiss total strangers. But even though I like this vid more, I STILL think he'll get friendzoned. He's just being too funny and goofy.
/r/seduction08/04/16 05:05 PM
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That's good. I may check his other stuff out then. This is the only thing I've seen of him and it turned me off.
/r/seduction08/04/16 02:19 PM
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Yep. I think him asking her to marry him so many times is cringe. I think he would have been better off asking her to dance or asking her to take shots with him. The marriage thing made me feel embarrassed for him. Mostly because I used to do stupid shit like that and was always fucking friendzoned. Every. Fucking. Time. I got so many "Love ya!!" texts and no pussy that I was starting think I was an alien or something. Then I found this forum, read some books, took a hard look at myself and real…
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:52 AM
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I also text other girls before the date too. Just knowing that I have other options puts me at ease and makes me feel that I own my life and I'm making my own rules. Also, the 5 minutes late text is one of the most worthwhile things I ever learned in this sub. I've used for the last year or so. It implies that I'm busy and have a life (which I don't), that I don't have any emotional investment just yet, and is a great escape route if they end up canceling. If they flake, then I can just say no p…
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:40 AM
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It's like herpes, it's never really cured. You'll have other outbreaks of one-itis. Stay strong, step back when it happens, clean yourself up and carry on. I STILL get one-itis for the girl who broke up with me a year ago. It just randomly pops up when I hear a song or see someone who has same body style as her. Shake my head, and realize that I gotta live in the now and not in the past.
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:29 AM
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My face looks like your foot. And I hate feet. So I actually own up to the fact and describe myself as rugged and unconventionally attractive. Once I started to view myself as unconventionally attractive, it worked. But then again, I'm gullible as shit when it comes to lying to myself. But hey I get laid, so it works for me.
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:26 AM
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This advice is also exactly right about how to react to a break-up of long term gf's too. You just gotta accept some shit works out and some doesn't. Easier said than done once you have the oneitis, but still solid advice. Either way, ya tried and didn't set in a corner jerking off and trying to score a self-facial because you're watching CEI vids with Princess Rene, and just thinking about asking someone out instead of actually doing it. I mean, not that um, I would ever do that self-facial thi…
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:20 AM
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To masturbate with.
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:11 AM
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I like most of this, but for god's sake, practice a little at a time or something. Some people the oddest "I want to feel your skull without skin" death stares. I know for me, if I have a hint of a smile, it works better for my face. I have a goofy smile, so I had to practice a LOT in the mirror. But I have really bright blue eyes, so I get comments on them a lot if I maintain eye contact. The key for me is to maintain eye contact in a "being attentive" way and not in a "I'm in a staring contest…
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:08 AM
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Up your text game or your in-person game. The fact is, and this sub is loathe to admit it for some reason, most girls prefer text or in-person conversation. Almost all the girls I know only talk to their close friends or their boyfriends on phone. Once you are dating her, ya, there will be calls all day every day. But until then, up your text game or only use it to get a date with her. I have a lot of girl friends and they think random guys who call are creepers. YMMV
/r/seduction08/04/16 04:02 AM
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Great points made!
/r/seduction08/04/16 03:55 AM
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The guy at 1:36, in orange tank top. "That's cute. Fuck this noize tho, I need to go slay some pussy." And he probably will while video host keeps dancing and and asking random people to marry him.
/r/seduction08/04/16 03:53 AM
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I wanted to like this so much! Maybe I'm cynical or maybe the girls I know, have a different vibe, but I feel like most guys doing what he does, end up getting friendzoned. I mean, the camera is there, so people know he's being fun and zany, less of a creeper factor. They react way better because of that. But also, he seems so "fun" and "funny" that most chicks I know would want to hang around with him until they find a hot guy to fuck. And then they would call funny guy later and want to hang o…
/r/seduction08/04/16 03:42 AM
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Good point! I agree.
/r/seduction30/03/16 03:16 PM
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I think a lot of this has merit. This whole thing of "don't text girls unless you are asking them out" is so weird to me. Almost every chick I bang loves to text and text a lot. I think you have to follow the flow of conversation, if she texts a lot, you can text fairly often. If she's not really a big texter, keep the texts brief, farily light-hearted and only to set up a date. The reality is if you sit around not texting because you want to seem cool, one of the other 5 guys she is texting wil…
/r/seduction29/03/16 11:50 PM
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Most bitches be crazy. Just sayin....
/r/seduction27/03/16 02:39 PM
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Now I feel unsexy. Fuuuuccckkkk.
/r/seduction27/03/16 02:39 PM
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Don't ask, tell. haha Good on ya, mate!
/r/seduction27/03/16 02:38 PM
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Thanks man, the blowjob under the cover was hot. Having her sister on the other side of me was fucking awesome. Just wish the sister would have woke up! haha
/r/seduction27/03/16 02:36 PM
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ya, you're right. Some shit is intangible and if it works for you, it works. I just did this last night on another first date and it worked. So I guess this is my thing and I ain't gonna overanalyze it. I do like the "you could've done it 15 minutes before" mindset. Good shit, man.
/r/seduction27/03/16 02:25 PM
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Gotta say I'm skeptical. If it worked for you, awesome. But in my experience, bitching about a past relationship has been a deal killer 100% of the time. I may touch on the issue lightly, but always giving the impression that I bounce back quick because I'm confident enough not to let crazy people run my life. That and you added a link to your workbook, um, no. I don't buy what you're selling.
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:38 PM
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I think you are on the right path by just saying "no problem" and moving on. If they want to hang out with you, then they do. Ya gotta try once, but after that, it comes across as needy. I say this because that's usually my big issue, if I get too needy, it always fails. Took a long time for me to just move on because I'd get focused on how well it WAS working at first. Some shit is just about timing. Make sure you are the one too busy to hang out with everyone, because you're so busy hanging ou…
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:26 PM
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Thanks, I think that's the key. I figured out an angle that works with my personality. I gotta say that it feels pretty fucking cool that I found my own thing that worked.
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:23 PM
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I got out of the friendzone once in my life. Fucked the crazy out of her for 3 months. Wasn't paying attention, fell back into my old habits of being a listener/caretaker. I was put firmly back into the friendzone. Ain't gonna make that mistake again!
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:21 PM
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This should not be downvoted. This is a fucking true statement!
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:20 PM
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True, but OP should figure out a way to steer them away from that drama or he risks becoming the guy who they like to talk to rather than the guy who they like to fuck.
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:19 PM
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It's a fine line though. In my experience, as a below-average looking guy, if I'm too good at listening, I quickly become the friend that chicks talk to about their problems. Not the guy who chicks fuck to forget about their problems. Guess which guy I'd rather be?
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:18 PM
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Forget about it, bro!
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:16 PM
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POF and OKCupid do great for me. I pretty much go on average of 1 or 2 dates a week from them. Tinder and apps like that work but not as much for me. They seem to be more looks-based. I've gotten dates off of them, but nothing close to the amount of dates I get from POF and OKCupid. I think with Tinder, the chicks have so many guys to pick from, they can just go for the best looking dudes. The dating websites, are geared towards more of a dating scene rather than just hang out and grab a drink. …
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:14 PM
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I think it's cornball if not done in the flow of conversation. I mean, I wouldn't say it while talking to a co-worker about ordering supplies. But if I say it, while on a date, and I'm telling about how I was almost butt-raped by a biker guy who insisted I call him LLCoolV aka Ladies Love Cool Vic, hey, it works. A lot of things in this sub would seem cringy if they were taken out of context or not done with the right timing/energy/flow.
/r/seduction26/03/16 08:02 PM
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I know! That's my point! It's corny as fuck, I'd never recommend it to anyone, but it works like a charm for me. So I was hoping for some insight one why it works. But maybe at the end of the day, it doesn't matter why it works for me. It just does. Or wait, maybe I'm as corny as fuck. Shit. But fuck it, it gets me laid, no complaints, no regrets. Oh yeah, fuck you! (Nah, man, just kidding, thanks for your input.)
/r/seduction26/03/16 07:53 PM
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Act like you're comfortable, act like you know what you're doing, and everyone will assume you are and that you do. This is what changed my life, in all aspects. This will help you with everything, not just chicks. Awesome write up, dude!
/r/seduction26/03/16 07:50 PM
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Good point. I think I can stop catching the feels again. And as for the couch, I mean, I am her ex-boyfriend after all. I don't think I'd make her sleep on the couch since she'll a guest in my home. My couch sucks! And it's only for one night. But I get your point. And thanks for your support. Definitely trying to stay away from the gay best friend vibe. I want to make this a FWB if I can. If I can't, then I don't know if I will even continue being friends with her. FWB, I can live with. Just fr…
/r/seduction10/03/16 05:34 PM
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That's definitely a viewpoint I thought about it. But I have a dog too, so it's not like I'm changing my life to watch her dog. We text almost every day and she calls me a lot. So it's not like she contacted me out of the blue. Trust me, the 'friendzoned bitch' thought has come to my mind. I've already decided that regardless of what happens, it doesn't mean we're are getting back together. We're exes for a reason. I'm not pining after her or stricken with oneitis. I date a lot and she knows tha…
/r/seduction10/03/16 04:59 PM
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This explains how I actually get dates from OKCupid even though everyone says it's impossible unless you're good looking.
/r/seduction10/03/16 04:01 PM
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I stopped saying "fuck" after things didn't happen, and started saying "fuck it" before doing them. This.
/r/seduction04/03/16 09:22 PM
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And through it all, you found...confidence. Welcome aboard.
/r/seduction04/03/16 09:20 PM
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It's called "Models" (subtitle Attract Women Through Honesty) by Mark Manson. Much much better book and it really did change a lot of things for me. I don't agree with all of it, but there is enough good stuff in there to change up your game for sure.
/r/seduction04/03/16 03:40 AM
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What stands out the most was when the narrator would say things like "Guys need to be held, to be loved..." or along the lines of "It's a way of seeking love from others. Loving and touching..." and every instance of the group men meetings and talking about needing love. It just sounded really wimpy and needy to me. Stuff like that. See to me, the guy narrating sounded like Donald Sutherland. So all I could think of was Donald Sutherland, looking like he did in The Hunger Games, talking about ho…
/r/seduction04/03/16 03:24 AM
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It's probably a good read, but here is a tip. Do NOT listen to the audiobook. I was listening to the audiobook version and the way the reader narrates some of the stuff is soooo cringe-inducing and treachly. Ugh, horrible. Like I wanted to smack him in the eye. The problem is that there are lots of first-person stories, so the bad narration of them in the audiobook made me so frustrated that I had to turn it off. Horrible horrible horrible reading for an audiobook. I wish I had just read the boo…
/r/seduction03/03/16 07:31 PM
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I have to say for me, online dating helped me be better in real life. I have good text game, so I get lots of dates from POF, OKCupid, and Tinder. Once I started going out, meeting chicks from online, and realizing that people actually dig me, I moved up my real life game and became better at talking to total strangers. For me, online dating works because of my humor. I'm very average, but I get lots of hits on POF and OKCupid where girls message me first and say things like "Love your attitude,…
/r/seduction02/03/16 05:50 PM
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I always hear stuff like this in this forum. But I get lots of dates via online dating sites and Tinder, even though I'm extremely average looking. Maybe just the city I live in or something.
/r/seduction02/03/16 05:23 PM
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Be careful with this. I'm naturally funny, and plenty of times I've been with girls and made them laugh so hard they almost pee themselves. But it's a fine line. I was too funny, and was seen as the comedian, not the sexy witty guy. In my world, when a girl says she likes a guy who is "funny" she means a guy who is fun and witty, not really funny. In my personal experience, funny always put me straight into friendzone. I'm the guy they would hang out with or call to make them feel better about t…
/r/seduction19/02/16 06:32 PM
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