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Allegedly? It’s right there in text, he made the argument. And he’s objectively correct, there are the numbers right there. Are you so insular you’re just going to ignore those numbers? Do you think autistic people don’t matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:07 PM
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Yes, but it’s incomplete Men don’t care about men’s issues, and women don’t care about men’s issues Only a handful of men and women considered weirdos care about men’s issues, even though they’re literally correct
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:02 PM
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Because men are wired to compete with other men. They don’t have a strong gendered in-group preference because it wasn’t evolutionarily adapted. Instead, they adapted to take a wife, and fight against another guy. This worked when the wife supported the husband. Now the wife is playing her own game, the man is still playing the old game, and this causes suffering. But if the guy stopped playing the old game, women and children would suffer as a result, and he’s wired to not do that biologically …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:00 PM
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The standard female response is that all of men’s problems are caused by men and then they go on with their day. Because for some reason, everything needs to be an intentional evil committed by a villain group against a victim group, even though the world is actually a lot more complicated than that. Also, no, it need not be the case that men are somehow dumb or at fault for working the dangerous jobs. The jobs need to get done and the men who take these jobs almost always have wives and childre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:53 PM
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Yeah that’s a stat from America I always find this response interesting, this idea that a human born anywhere is sort of equivalent for the question of depopulation You realize it’s actually a huge problem if Europe and America are depopulating but Africa is overpopulating, right? It’s not equivalent to say, oh well it’ll balance out because for every kid not born in America, one is born in Africa. For a variety of reasons it’s not a cause to dismiss the issue as not an issue, mainly because if …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:51 PM
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If my response was emoting, so was hers. She used italics lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:46 PM
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“Sir, you’re not allowed to use reason? Sir? Sir you have to navigate my minefield, you have to go through my patronage network designed to systematically identify and exclude viewpoints like yours. Sir I need a documented source from a qualified leftist! Sir!!” <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:44 PM
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Autistic men: 17% in a relationship Autistic women: 40% More than 2x as much. He is correct. Putting something that is a measurable number in scare quotes is fucking absurd behavior. He was right and you ad hominem attacked him and chose ignorance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:54 AM
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Feminists have presented themselves as the opponent at literally every organized attempt to discuss men’s rights issues. I mean they physically showed up and picketed, angry phone calls, attempts to cancel events, even bomb threats get called in. Feminists HATE the idea of men’s rights getting any kind of attention, because men are the villains of the feminist narrative, which builds itself on a narrative of an oppressor class and an oppressed class. There is no room for considering men’s rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:26 AM
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You can’t persuade people who don’t want to be persuaded. There’s a whole book of MRA statistics that literally involve men dying in huge numbers due to the burdens put on them and the lack of mental health resources, the fact that male callers at abuse hotlines are redirected to abuser hotlines (no I am not joking), that the idea of a man being raped by a woman didn’t exist as a legal category until like 15 years ago, men get turned away from battered shelters, men are homeless at way higher ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:23 AM
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Men were never given rights, our legal rights always came with corresponding requirements related to military services and a bunch of soft requirements in terms of our role in society, if you’re on a sinking ship and there are not enough life boats, time to die buddy, sorry The only people who were given rights and no legal requirements to go along with it were women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:18 AM
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The biggest issue is the divorce rates destroyed all sense of trust This is worse in a system where you grind your ass off for decades to build your castle and a divorce court can take it away from you in a day and there’s nothing you could do to completely prevent it if you chose to get married In said situation a guy is just not going to get married, and he’s going to read up on his local common law marriage laws before letting a girl move in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:17 AM
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This comment could give a Nazi eugenicist a heart attack
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:13 AM
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True, but they also enjoyed it Wild idea here, but mammals enjoy pair bonding and reproducing. Crazy, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:08 AM
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Strong community and cultural epicenters
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:08 AM
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“Women don’t want men that earn more” It is insane that people still have the gall to say this in 2026 Go ask 10 men on the street how much they want their ideal partner to make Now go ask 10 women. Stop straight up lying to people. A lot of the gender war is because women overtly and blatantly lie to men about what they want. How is anything supposed to go smoothly if you’re actively misleading us If you think it makes you look bad to say what you want, consider getting your shit together until…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:05 AM
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Correction: a small minority manage to bag them It’s a larger minority that goes after it, or would if given the chance
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:01 AM
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That’s already the case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:00 AM
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He cited a quantifiable metric, that’s more objective argumentation than you’ve offered. All you’ve done is directly attack this guy’s character
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:47 AM
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That last one is wild, I want to hear the story on that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 04:45 AM
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I don’t think men are actually better at logical thinking naturally, I think it’s their default way of thinking, their first choice for most men. Women are perfectly capable of being logical, when they want to be, but I don’t think, for most of them, it is their first choice to handle a predicament, and in situations where it is because the thing demands it (solving a math problem) you don’t see big gender gaps in capability here. But you do see a huge gender gap in men vs women choosing to stud…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:57 AM
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“one side treats their desire as effort, while the other is expected to constantly prove themselves through actions.” Women invented the phrase “I am the table”. And of the remaining social traditions from chivalry, all of the remaining ones are requirements on men: hold the door, give up the seat on the bus, go down with the titanic, fight the home invader, sign up for the draft, fight the war, be the police, be the plumber, do the dirty and dangerous jobs, and, quietly, it would be nice if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:00 AM
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Idk, I think we actually err on the side of giving up over the smallest thing Only about half of millennials are projected to get married Fewer than half of Gen Z will achieve the same This is not even married with kids, or married and never divorced, or married with kids and never divorced, this is just married We are on track to basically go extinct because we cannot get along to save our own lives. We are entirely too picky with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:52 AM
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This tracks completely, but I don’t think it’s mutually exclusive with what I said. I think they’re both true at the same time. Men can be both less emotional overall and also more guarded about sharing their emotions. In fact I would expect those two things to move together. Similarly, I could be in a bubble, but I’m more likely to be in a bubble like that if more bubbles like that exist. More bubbles like that would exist if it’s also generally the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:36 AM
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It’s actually the conclusion most human civilizations have reached for almost all of human history Gaslighting me that I’m the first person to think this is insane. Your particular combination of beliefs about the world probably didn’t even exist until 15 years ago, where did all of that came from, did you make it up? My case is the base case, in fact you know it is, that’s why you think we live in a patriarchy, because in part that this view is so common. It’s so common and persistent because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 12:28 AM
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Don’t we also need a logistical supply chain? Why would we want that to fall apart, you realize whenever that happens like 10-20% of the population dies before things destabilize? Usually the elderly, children, and the weak die at higher rates Basically if the elites want people to get married and have children, that’s like the most milquetoast thing they want, because it’s just a normal thing to want. It’s not sinister at all, even if they want people to be born so they can tax them, it’s still…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:33 PM
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Maybe it’s the kind of thing that women wear on their sleeve and men hide? I could totally buy this happening a lot with a guy who trusts you enough to be kinda weak like this. I don’t see this behavior from other men often, as a man. I do see it often from women whether I’m close with them or not. Frankly I see it more from women I’m not close with, and less from men I’m not close with
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:30 PM
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I don’t know, because it’s not just in relationships that I notice the discrepancy, it’s in everything, work relationships, friendships. Guys just don’t do this whole “emotional intent translation layer” thing that many many women subconsciously are doing To the extent that if a guy does this, I actually start to worry if he’s ok. I’ve met a few guys who do this, and they just seemed unstable to me. So many women do it that rather than think that all of these women are unstable and broken in som…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:28 PM
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Yeah but the rates are different enough that it’s a valid observation to say that yeah men do this too but most women seem to natively operate like this, whereas it’s comparatively unusual for a guy to usually be in this emotional processing mental space
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:26 PM
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They respond to you saying direct communication is better by saying that is too much emotional work? That almost implies that it is an emotional process for them to re-translate what you said back from what they felt into what you said again. Wild. Like they’re autotranslating what you said into some other thing and then retranslating you back into what you actually is hard for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:24 PM
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The wording differences in these studies are so interesting to me in that they somehow paint totally different pictures Women self report being less happy than men But they also self report having greater life satisfaction What in the hell is going on there? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:59 PM
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Are you one of those people who thinks that something can’t happen until it happens? I know it’s never happened before. It’s still happening. It’s not debatable that it’s happening, we have data on fertility rates. We know the maximum number of 20 year olds that will exist in 19 years: they’ve all already been born. We can project from that knowledge, and that’s a best case scenario projection because not all of those 1 year olds are going to make it to 20
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:57 PM
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Not upheaval, collapse. Overpopulation is heavily leaning towards Asia and Africa but the nations with the worst replacement rates, ex Korea which has the worst in the world, are in Europe. Europe is not overpopulated at all, Africa and China are, but Africa’s population is the one that has continued to explode In other words there’s an asymmetry here that is a problem. The people groups that built and maintain the world’s infrastructure and global trade network are the ones about to disappear. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:46 PM
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You’re all over the place, you’re contradicting yourself repeatedly. Make up your mind, are the elites trying to breed us or replace us with robots, do they benefit from us outnumbering them or is it an existential threat we can use? You keep saying thing and then opposite of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:39 PM
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The rich have a lower fertility rate than both the middle class and the poor You should try not to develop a worldview in isolation from actual data. Your view was historically true but is not true in post industrial and even industrial societies. It’s really only true of an agrarian/warrior elite
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:35 PM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:05 PM
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Probably. It’s totally fucking fucked mate, big time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:04 PM
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Yep. Many people want to talk, few people want to listen. Most people quietly want everyone to just think what they think and they settle for some sort of compromise, begrudgingly. Then everyone is grumpy and nobody is happy, it’s great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:03 PM
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Vetting increases quality but it also increases difficulty of the ensuing relationship in some ways. A good man is hard to keep and is less likely to be super accommodating in a relationship, for the same reasons a good woman is hard to snag
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:00 PM
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Not going to die out, but definitely going to plunge into a millennium long dark age It’s all the advanced industrial countries that are below replacement rate. When they can’t keep their systems stable anymore, global trade falls apart, which causes a mass die off globally and a technological regression. Massive population movements, resource wars, you name it. Humanity will still exist but it’ll be Roman Empire collapse 2 electric boogaloo There are really only two ways out of that scenario, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:10 AM
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Yeah it’s more than cold indifference, it’s a disgust response. There are even studies showing this is the case, sometimes empathy fires, often disgust does, sometimes both fire simultaneously, I imagine that’s quite a trip when it happens
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:19 AM
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Probably easier to find a woman who wants to be in a relationship (with you, a woman) than a man, mainly because the men are tired, and women tend to like serious relationships a bit more these days. But easier to actually be in a relationship with? Probably the man. Lower maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 AM
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Half the reason I don’t date is I just can’t keep up with it. I’m too busy and when I get free time I just kinda want to veg out Girls who like to stay at home and play video games or nerd out over a board game wouldn’t even normally be my type but it would be the only girl I’d have energy for, hell it would be so refreshing I would probably fall in love LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:14 AM
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This is kinda true, neuroticism makes life hell. It is just difficult to take it seriously if you’re in objectively worse living situation than someone neurotically miserable and still manage to be happy. But that also doesn’t make neuroticism any less miserable of a trap to be stuck in
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:12 AM
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The topic is valid, the problem is the participants can’t see past their own noses, most people will use threads like this to just pitch you their worldview which is usually entirely oriented around themselves It’s not the fault of the topic, it’s the fault of people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:11 AM
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This is tautologically true but also meaningless. Patterns exist everywhere, you can learn from the patterns. It’s true in the sense of how you should treat people when you interact with them on the street as individuals. It’s a conversation-ending cliche when you’re on a forum whose whole point is to discuss trends and groups of people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:09 AM
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At the very top: men have it easier, then women At the very bottom: men have it easier, then women Everywhere in between: women have it easier, then men So, most men have harder lives than most women, but at the extremes of the bottom and top 10% or so, men have it easier, by a lot, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:07 AM
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I can easily use the same reduction and argue that feminism started as a movement of women who wanted to be men, turned into a movement of women bitter at men, and eventually merged into being both at the same time. It’s a similarly dismissive and reductionist view to thinking TRP is about getting laid when they were also the first people to highlight things like the fertility crisis and the structural risk to civilization that arise from that. In the same way that perhaps a group of bitter wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:54 AM
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I don’t think this is any different than what happened to feminists. They’re essentially locked in a feedback loop with each other that is dragging normal men and women trying to get along with each other, down with them. Hence my collective swimming pool analogy It’s sort of like how fascism and communism coevolved with each other and gave each other the casus belli to develop their own worst instincts. Or capitalism and feudalism Human psychology gets weird when the available, somewhat emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:30 AM
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There’s some there, there, but as usual people find a way to abuse anything. I try not to care too much about what someone thinks and says if they are trying to sell me a course. Good rule of thumb. That, and the conversation is polluted by all the shit-flinging between these guys and feminists, that has been going on since before I was born. We are at such a late stage at this point that nobody seems to want to eat the meat and spit the bones. Sometimes feminists launch a truth nuke but I find …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:19 AM
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I disagree, both women and PUAs seem to give a nod to female intuition which seems the equivalent of male logic for producing good insights. And male instinct is as likely to make you a slave to your dick as to be logical and I’ve never seen these guys begrudge that point? Even if they talk about gender and IQ they say that males tend towards either end and women tend more towards the center? That’s admitting that most idiots are men. In other words I don’t think the worldview is terribly unbala…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:11 AM
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I don’t think those people think men are fundamentally different I’ve never met PUA or red pill types who think women are driven by instinct but men are not. They just think the instincts, while aligned, lead to different behaviors, different incentives, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:05 AM
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You whine and complain too much and men are tired of it. Y’all play life on easy mode and still whine constantly. Women around the world are less happy than men despite working less. Nobody cares, people are learning that yall just are wired to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:33 PM
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True. The only difference is that men are treated like it’s a character flaw or personal failing if they’re ugly. Most men seem to feel bad for ugly women and recognize that they got a bad hand
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:52 AM
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Makes sense, although this definitely has been a thing since before the internet, the internet accelerated it, and I think this subculturization also is responsible for creating the internet So it’s a self perpetuating engine that creates offshoot engines that further accelerate the process So what happens to us when what happened with the internet happens with AI? Robotics?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:38 AM
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Lady I do not even have time to eat breakfast in the morning 😆 Also I hate makeup, i dont even like it on the kinds of girls I like. It’s like an uncanny valley thing for me. Ditto for plastic surgery I think you’d look better in a baseball cap at a skate park Are we like arch nemeses? You want to create ladyboys and I want to create tomboys? Should we make it a competition to see who makes more of each faster?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:35 AM
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Yeah I gotcha, I just wanted to clarify that that claim was one about puberty. The things boys experience when they become men, chemically, are puberty-induced. How the choose to act in response to those feelings is about the choices they make and how they react to their experiences with women, but the internal change itself is dramatic and is independent of culture. So yes, puberty wouldn’t justify feelings of hatred, but equally, the internal conflict these teen boys feel is not from culture, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:27 AM
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Are you like the female equivalent of a guy obsessed with tomboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 12:21 AM
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No, it’s not. Go re-read the post. The post is about the phenomenon of men becoming looksmaxxers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:03 PM
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He described puberty, not culture. Male physiology and brain chemistry changes dramatically during and after puberty, it literally does become harder to get dopamine without a partner, that’s why male attraction to women increases dramatically after puberty I think this is just the case with all mammals?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:01 PM
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And women dress up at nightclubs mostly to show off to their girlfriends, if they’re not showing off to attract a mate, to then show off to their girlfriends You want to present women as superior to men somehow, yet you’re doing all the same shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:59 PM
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I think the society is starting to bifurcate into more extreme clusters, like two tail distributions Look at random street footage from, say, the 60s: most people look kinda samish, average builds and appearance are very common. Starting in the 80s, you start to see bifurcation happening: increased popularity of fast food starts creating more fat people. Gym culture goes mainstream, creating the gym bro phenotype. And the PC revolution occurs, creating the tech twink and neckbeard The trend has …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:32 PM
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Texas chads stay winning Now they have to just have self respect and not simp. Texans are huge mommas boys so they will have to fight a losing battle there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:28 PM
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By their mothers. Men fantasize about tomboy gfs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:24 PM
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You insult yourself, Kingslayer. They’re just copying the behavior of women for thousands of years: invest primarily in appearance, compete for visual attention If it’s degrading to us, you’ve also been degrading yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:22 PM
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We are in the mouse utopia experiment and they are the beautiful ones, the self groomers
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:11 PM
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Ok, so you DO want a traditional woman So the other guy’s point stands, you’re not really getting traditional women over there. You’re getting their liberals, they may just seem relatively conservative to you That might be a ticking time bomb
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 10:05 PM
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The obesity crisis and its accompanying hormonal crisis is causing probably the biggest chunk of our problems. People naturally don’t want to fuck as much if all they have to look at are fat people and if they’re fat themselves (they’d run out of breathe in 15 seconds or less) Ozempic might save the human race from the fertility crisis LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:44 PM
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Ok, so you’re not after the idea of “trad foreign women”, your motivations are different, you want a foreigner because you think they have less inflated expectations of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:42 PM
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I think this guy figured that Thailand would just enact the same process and ship their now impoverished men to an even poorer country 😆 It’s turtles all the way down, better hope you’re not at the bottom of that stack, it’ll be like being stuck in the last row of the airplane where the seats don’t recline lol What if this actually happened and caused the global price and supply of jet fuel to explode, sending all of humanity into a dark age These one dimensional solutions always produce extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:38 PM
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Even a pretty poor guy in America has respectable spending power in a sufficiently shitty country The real problem would be that flying America’s rabble over to Thailand is going to get Thailand to close their borders really fast. Nobody wants to host an army of incels looking for poon
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:36 PM
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Wrong approach to take, said types of dudes tend to be the death of entire civilizations if there are too many of them, hell most of the suicide bombers in the Middle East are exactly this kind of dude, and even if they don’t do anything themselves, their mere existence causes social problems, which then cause governments to try to get rid of them and gain something from it. Half of all wars are basically just this, a method to profit off of trying to cull excess males. We are approaching “too m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:33 PM
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You’re not from their culture, fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:25 PM
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Her father’s medical bills are like $45 in USD lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:24 PM
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Lmao the government is not going to sponsor dozens of flights per year per person for 100-200 million people This is too expensive of a solution It would also be the fastest and most global demographic and cultural mixup event in human history, which could backfire pretty badly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:22 PM
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Jet fuel isn’t getting dramatically cheaper any time soon. This is not a feasible solution. Also, you have very little in common with women from the other side of the planet. Scaling that to millions of families forming between very different cultures would be interesting to say the least
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:20 PM
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Hey, I match energy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:25 PM
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How would my comment be projection? I’m not a dishwasher
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:48 PM
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I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve seen a woman accept an unflattering thing about herself. Their Achilles heel that makes them seem dumb to guys, it’s not actually lower intelligence, it’s stubborn pride that gets in the way of introspection I don’t care how you think attraction works for you, you don’t know how it works. I don’t know how it works for me either but at least I’m aware of that. We are the least reliable people to ask about such things, attraction is heavily unconsci…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:32 PM
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He fumbled one baddy and that was just it for him, man. See, that’s what having no game does to a man. So clearly some mix of looks and game is going to be the meta strat here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:17 AM
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I’ve read whole books on body language and social engineering, it’s part of my line of work Women remain an indecipherable mystery, often. In fact the fact that it doesn’t work as well as it should is basically keeping me from turning into like a comic book sexist at this point, because clearly if all women were really the same, this shit would work! lol I’m really good at platonic socializing and just generally being normal and pleasant (I vent on the internet which generates catharsis and I ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 05:59 AM
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Nah he left pride at that door, easy to mix them up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:40 AM
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Yeah, every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Being in solitude is manageable, you have peace. Being with a bad woman? I’ve had enough of that for a lifetime. Eventually I will probably get back out there, but with a lot of vetting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:06 AM
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It is what linear means, linearity would imply a constant slope, a direct proportional relationship for the entirety of the function, whereas I’m implying that it’s got diminishing returns, which would be a non constant slope curve, like an asymptote. It may be more like a differential equation? Lots of early gains followed by a cutoff in effectiveness of either skill. That said, I do think looks generally pull more weight, for much of said graph, than game does. No amount of game is going to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:58 PM
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Yeah but I did it better 💪 Anyway, in seriousness, my point is there’s more going on here, OP cooked a little bit, and it’s not right to dismiss this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:35 PM
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Pattern recognition Would you prefer if I told you to go be Joe Rogan somewhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:57 PM
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https://youtu.be/Nm9dArm-sKQ?si=-K34F4QC151Kdaz8
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:45 PM
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Grrr me woman me angyyy You would never fuck a guy like that in a million years. The very idea is laughable. Men do not get sexual experience by being “chill and pleasant”, they become honorary girlfriends by doing that. Don’t tell men to occupy the same space in your mind that you put gay friends, lying to them and telling them that going all in on good boy points is going to get them laid/a wife It’s not. The truth is, for men who want success with women, they need both good guy points AND bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:37 PM
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I don’t know that it’s linear like that If you mapped the importance of looks and game on a graph it would probably look something like “a little of both goes farther than a lot of one and zero of the other” There’s definitely gonna be diminishing returns. Like a 9/10 with some game is gonna do better than a socially moronic 10/10, looks wise
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:32 PM
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You’re way too concerned with perception and not enough concerned about whether it is true or not Obviously don’t say it unless you’re trying to sell some shitty PUA course But is it true that you’d probably get better results? If you’re any amount of attractive, yeah, probably, be a little mysterious and a likable kind of prick, it’ll probably work better than being too nice. If you’re not attractive? You will remain unattractive, but now you’re also being dickish for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:29 PM
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They don’t mean to do this, by the way. I think it’s something sort of like wishful thinking, like “I wish this was how I worked so I will assert that this is how I work”, or maybe that even is too conscious compared to what’s really happening. Perhaps this kind of advice is a reflection of her conscious mind but her heart is not really in agreement She finds these things likable in a guy and therefore concludes that they make her fall in love with a guy but those are not the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:26 PM
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You would be wrong, and he’s still Orthodox years later. Go be a druggie somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:33 PM
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It’s a meme and you don’t understand meme references because you are a woman It’s still dumb to infer a perspective from someone when you literally just said you don’t understand what I’m saying. There’s no making that not dumb. Maybe ask or google or something, evaluate the reference in context once you know what it means, and then you have the necessary information to figure out what my perspective is and thus whether it is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:01 PM
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It was an analogy to your attempt at “ungendering” something with your words, perhaps I was asking too much inference from you by making an analogy, my apologies. From what I’ve seen, it’s gendered. That doesn’t mean men don’t do it, it means women do it more often than men. And of course they do. It’s practically coded in sexual dimorphism across the entire animal kingdom, and it’s written all over human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:57 PM
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Nothing in the world can prepare a girl to turn 18 in this shithole society and nothing in the world can prepare a man to endure the constant brutality of his mid to late 20s. We’re all stuck in the suck in different ways
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:55 PM
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Was she like that? What were her romantic relationships like? Btw you can’t ungender something that is inherently, patternistically, gendered. I know leftists believe in words of power and affirmation and all this hoo hah horseshit but you can’t actually speak reality into existence. You can’t call it ungendered and make it so, if it is done by women more often than by men, it’s a gendered behavior, and vice versa, and the degree to which it is slightly or very gendered is the degree to which on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:45 PM
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Absolutely fucking not. It’s a horrible idea for themselves and for the women they’re using.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:40 PM
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Nobody said that. I said you were spoiled because you acted like small gifts are not beneficial to you. You wouldn’t say that if he gave you a Rolex. Ergo, you are spoiled rotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:39 PM
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Fine I may have jumped the gun there a bit. I’m just very used to that being the case
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:39 PM
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Because there aren’t different moral standards for men and women If a man strings along a bunch of girls he keeps around for sex, it’s a harem. If a woman strings along a bunch of guys for sex, it’s a harem. If you’re asking why neither is healthy, it’s because neither of them is contributing to anyone’s growth as a person. Most if not all of the people involved are just going to end up hurt. These behaviors are inherently one person putting their needs above everyone else involved. Even in situ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:35 PM
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It’s really funny that you translated a female behavior to “being a manipulative asshole”, it sounds like you actually agree with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:33 PM
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If you don’t know what I’m talking about then how do you know my perspective is strange? Don’t say dumb things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:32 PM
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It’s so funny how things change as we age. I’m 30 and my primary grouchiness comes from the feeling that people are tryin to take advantage of me. Old guys just want someone to need them for something and are happy with that I was like that too when I was younger, but I got taken advantage of too many times in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:28 PM
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I hope you get to have children and spend a lot of time with them so you can come to understand how wrong you are. It is a gift
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:26 PM
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If you didn’t date these men, how did you get close enough to them to discern their most intimate motivations? I think either you did date these men or you’re inferring their motivations without actually ever getting close enough to them to see beyond the tough exterior men put out. Or you’re drawing your view of men almost entirely from random dudes on the internet? Which is only going to tell you, definitively, about terminally online men’s behavior. Which is really fucking bad, and so is term…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 04:20 PM
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Not relevant to me, I don’t fuck bugs. I need to talk to the 10% that you can’t instantly read. Otherwise there’s no sport in it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:35 AM
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If they’re simultaneous, yeah If they’re not, serial monogamy Neither of these are healthy btw
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:28 AM
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Yes, if you were romantically involved with several men simultaneously, you essentially had a harem of men Infidelity implies some assurance of exclusivity was given, this is implicit when you have a spouse or a boyfriend/girlfriend (which is essentially a marriage free trial) that’s not usually how these things go. The topic is often avoided with bullshit lines like “I don’t know what my life’s gonna be like in 3 weeks ya know?” I also don’t see evidence for the argument that the women are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:27 AM
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It turned negative because the truth is that men and women need each other, when they withdraw from each other they hurt themselves, they recognize they are in pain, they attribute the pain to the thing about the other gender that made them pull back, this turns into resentment. This happens with man haters as well, they often start with withdrawing from men due to bad experiences or valid criticisms, but the isolation itself turns the views sour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:21 AM
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He’s also giving up his time and he’s paying for both lattes. Your entire frame only makes sense if you either don’t see the man as human to the same degree you are, or you feel some sense of entitlement, like you’re doing him a favor by being there. Understandably this is repulsive to men, especially if you’re capable of paying for your own
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:19 AM
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That’s just you reflecting how spoiled you are by it that you don’t consider a $5 free coffee to be anything at all I would be thrilled if someone bought me a free coffee, because of how unusual it would be
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:14 AM
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You did not, you still don’t know what he wants even though he has told it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:10 AM
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She kinda cooked with this quote though. I have seen some grotesque examples of women controlling men with sex and the men just refusing to learn
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:07 AM
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If it’s just fun I can get that anywhere doing all kinds of things It has to be more than fun or it’s an easily replaceable commodity Because it has been made nothing more than fun, it has been made meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:03 AM
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Considering that a therapist just prescribes pills that are proven in studies to not even work, or, just listens to you complain and then psychoanalyses you (any girlfriend worth her salt can do this and many do), having your girlfriend be your therapist is just saving $140/hr The only reason we disrespect this is because we rightly identify it as a skill issue. A man should be able to complain and then diagnose himself inside of his own head. Then he doesn’t have to pay an old fat lady to do it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:58 AM
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Speaking from experience, you know what gets men more unwilling to come forward, more than anything else? It’s not internalized expectations or whatever, most of us can get outside of our own heads enough to get past that, especially now. It’s two things When we call the police, we get arrested. When we call an abuse hotline, they reroute us to an abuser hotline. We don’t want the people we love to get arrested, even when they hurt us
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:54 AM
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Women seem to think men are dumb sex apes Some men withdraw from sex out of disgust or disappointment Game is absolutely trivial to any guy with high IQ/EQ yet many smart or emotionally aware men choose not to engage, why? Your worldview offers no explanation for the existence of these men Not that Reddit is the primo destination for high IQ guys but you get my drift
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:46 AM
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Someone hates babies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:36 AM
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I love when women just admit that they’re marrying a man to steal his money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:35 AM
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Weird flex to call your own work basic tasks I guess it works out for you though, considering you’re currently trying to convince men to do your work, so you downplay it, but when you are doing it, you’re literally in Vietnam and doing back breaking labor
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:33 AM
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He’s not wrong at all I’m sorry man but what he’s saying is true. Eventually conservative men learn that Santa does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:32 AM
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Yes but at least in America, conservative women have their own issues. I have noticed they are major ballbusters. I got lectured by a conservative woman I dated once because I wore sandals at a theme park, apparently that was “childish” They expect guys to be He Man 24/7, you can never relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:30 AM
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Ah yes, the sneaky fucker strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:07 AM
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Yes nobody has ever called confident people assholes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:06 AM
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This idea isn’t coming from men, it’s coming from men’s interactions with women and simp men You’re correct that confidence doesn’t make one an asshole, but it does get someone called an asshole. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:05 AM
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Chill and pleasant is like being Normal SpongeBob Would you marry or even sleep with Normal SpongeBob? No. But they’re a good coworker
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:03 AM
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Depends on what is meant by lowering standards. Never lower moral standards, do not sleep with evil women just because they’re the only ones you could get. Better to be alone in that case. If you mean stop shooting for women more beautiful than you, yeah that’s probably good advice
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:01 AM
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Well, keep in mind the sequence of events that happen to a person can very much color how they respond to it For all you know, that guy who comes at you roidraging about women could’ve gone with his problems to 5 or 6 women he trusted and been mocked by them, or blamed for his problems with bootstraps logic Women do have a tendency of always assigning agency to the man, it’s very common for women to basically come up with increasingly more niche ways to say that it’s ultimately his fault that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:44 AM
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It’s hard to tell which is the more honest form of interaction People on the internet will just say shit sometimes, just to screw with people But they’ll also sometimes tell you how they really feel, and sometimes it isn’t pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:40 AM
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Truth nuke My married friends constantly joke that they got the last plane out of Saigon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:38 AM
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No, i don’t think you understand the dynamic of these things at all. These are not married men usually, or men cheating on their girlfriends, these are men serially doing situationships with several women And they couldn’t do it if the women didn’t do it with them, you can try to blame men if you want but the women are just as involved in this culture, obviously. In fact, more women are involved in it, than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:56 AM
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The point I am making is one critical of such stereotyping, the whole point is to undercut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:53 AM
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That guy is 5’7”? I doubt it. Tell me more about this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:52 AM
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I’m guessing you’re retarded and also an asshole. Why pick a fight with some stranger? You can’t possibly have enough information about me through Reddit to conclude such things, so it’s just stupid and also rude. My point was perfectly valid: unless you think all women are the same, you need to actually talk to a woman to get an idea of what her body language is communicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:50 AM
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I don’t think you know what the mouse utopia experiment showed, if you’re juxtaposing it with “violence” It was very violent, and also very metrosexual, and also very incelish All at the same time. Which is exactly what “gen z is incels and looksmaxers and alt right” looks like. And this kind of hatred being mutually flung around is the environment that creates it. So thanks for pissing in the collective swimming pool. If you just want to vent at men, go to tumblr. There are dedicated places for…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:45 AM
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Is this one of those moments where women pretend to be prudes as pure as the driven snow when we all know they’re more perverted than they’ve ever been before? My point about the fact that dating is so messed up that many guys are checking out was pretty independent of the whole no overt sexuality thing btw, for example, we had similar rules about not being overtly sexual in dating before, during the whole Victorian romantic courtship era. But there was still a clear outlet and clear rules. Guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:42 AM
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No, of course not, I’m not vulgar. Mostly I just don’t express interest anymore. Y’all made this shit way too difficult. We need some reasonable dating meta to re-establish itself. Most of my peers are more or less checked out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:49 PM
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I agree, they devalue themselves by doing this. But very attractive women are very much participating in this. I think they may not realize they’re effectively in a harem, because it’s presented behind a nice, clean app interface
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:40 PM
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Well he’s still very Orthodox, several years later. He also went to the holiest site in America for Orthodox Christianity, and met an elder considered to be a walking saint, picked a fight with him, realized he was wrong and converted through his interactions with him So this doesn’t read at all to me like a public statement, it reads like an actual conversion
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:28 PM
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How does a man indicate interest without saying anything sexual? The other ways are likely to get you accused of being patriarchal or something (offering to pay the bill etc), or put in nice guy zone (lots of interest in her personality or hobbies etc) Speaking as a man things seem to be quite ambiguous. I’m not gonna own “men don’t know how to read the room” until women own that they don’t know how to stage the room either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:42 PM
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Yes just perfectly read every woman’s body language before even getting a chance to talk to her, to get any information that might help you interpret body language. Also be a billionaire vampire philanthropist with a six pack.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:39 PM
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“Don’t say anything sexual to someone who has never indicated interest” So women are now the only initiators of sexual interest, then? We have to just sit and wait until picked, our intentions and desires don’t matter? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:35 PM
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That’s had sex once lmao “We did it guys, people had sex once, we saved the city! No massive socio-sexual dysfunctions here!”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:29 PM
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How are you supposed to take accountability for the conditions of your birth Let’s be real here? OP is under 5’9”. That’s what is happening here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:27 PM
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He didn’t claim they have no effect He’s trying to get people to understand that they’re not the sole cause of a person’s problems when dating Your comment is so hilariously stupid and missing the point that I genuinely do not know how to respond. You thought the OP’s point was “be gay”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:23 PM
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Your position is insane. You would be ok with massive famines killing 25% of the population because the majority are managing to find food
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:22 PM
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Hey, give some credit to us Christian red pillers We believe all that stuff about the shitty nature of women, but we don’t make it unique to women Everyone sucks, in different ways lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:21 PM
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Need creates real attraction over time. Lack of need creates superficial, frivolous attraction that can come and go, because the ties that bond two people who do not need each other are weak
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:18 PM
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You’re missing information Women become less attracted to their men when their man isn’t the primary bread winner
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:17 PM
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You are insufferable And it’s 100% a you problem in this case
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:09 PM
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If you flipped it it would be more accurate. High value women mostly end up with high value men High value men, not always, because of hypergamy, evidenced by the fact that far larger a percent of men report being single than women, meaning some harems are forming
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:39 PM
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Google it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:18 PM
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You need a boomer to tell you about an emerging problem? You’ll be waiting ten years at which point the milieu will be on to something else These things move way too fast for such analog approaches to gathering data and formulating a worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:57 AM
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Damn it’s the mouse utopia experiment up in here if that’s true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:56 AM
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Roosh stopped because he became an Orthodox Christian and didn’t believe what he was doing was helping people spiritually. He made videos and wrote a book about it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 06:54 AM
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Yeah I don’t have patience for this disingenuous shit man, we all know who you are the moment you said you’d hesitate to save a child over an adult. You hate children, you’re an antinatalist. Natural instinct is always to protect children first so to override that you would have to have a negative view of children
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:53 AM
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You did say it though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 03:01 AM
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If you included everyone in the world, but didn’t protect children over adults, I would still think that is evil and want nothing to do with it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:24 AM
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If you don’t understand why it’s worse for a child to be abused than an adult, and you would at all hesitate to save the child over the adult, then the entire rest of your chain of thought is suspect. Whatever worldview you have, I don’t have it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:38 AM
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Something that instigates eye contact. For example there was the old drop the handkerchief routine. Modern equivalent would be something like dropping your wallet maybe? See if they pick it up and hand it back to you, they’ll make eye contact. Builds a little intimacy cheaply. Then talk to them :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:56 AM
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Pedophilia is definitely still worse because the person involved is still in developmental stages, thus harm done to them has extremely high leverage over their development. In other words, hurting a child hurts them more than hurting an adult, this is obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:54 AM
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Men are provably less picky than women. This has been studied with dating app data
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:45 AM
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Debate about what? What is your point you are trying to make? You’re rubbing it in 50% of the human race’s face what 700 people in a small town in Nigeria are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:36 AM
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You are fishing for karma and getting off on your ability to compel people’s speech and shame them for things they didn’t do. There’s probably not a single person on this sub that even knows someone in the small town in Nigeria where this is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:32 AM
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It’s in Nigeria, that’s a black country Are all black men rapists? No? But all men are rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:26 AM
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Nigeria.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:25 AM
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Right but it’s obviously more dangerous to go to a near stranger’s house for sex than it is to have a drink with a guy in a public place with witnesses It’s weird that this is happening at the same time, more women ok with the riskier thing, less with the not as risky thing, while thinking it’s too risky? That doesn’t seem weird to you at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:09 PM
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I don’t think that’s it. They’re not engaging in less risky behavior with men, on the contrary far more just silo’d into apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:01 PM
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Yet are totally fine randomly going to a man’s house to fuck him after 4 text messages Yeah makes total sense that it’s a general environment of fear of men and not some weird schizo thing around technology hijacking our better sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:00 PM
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The countries you’re talking about are Arab world/muslim legal system mostly, and in those countries, men are not considered victims. It’s “the patriarchy” you guys believe in until pointed to that region of the world. If men are seen and treated as the dominant class, they’re not also seen as victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:11 PM
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That’s not as common as males not being counted as victims when a dispute between a man and a woman arises, because even in systems where women are not considered legally credible, men are still not considered as potential victims
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:00 PM
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They’re way more likely to cheat, that’s the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:52 AM
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Hard to take that seriously when the people most likely to laugh at men and women who point out how men can be abused, are people with that same label Feminists have nobody to blame but themselves for their own bad PR, they dislike men so much that they cannot contain it for the sake of their own persuasive self- definition
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:41 AM
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Not globally. Made to penetrate is a very recent legal category even in the west. It probably does not exist in most countries Did you read the original post? I was assuming we all had read that. She cited a GLOBAL statistic. Is the US the entire world? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:38 AM
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If you read this thread and understand its implications, you should find that statistic extremely dubious If the law didn’t define, for example, a female on male rape as legally known category of thing, then it is not going to appear in that statistic. Ditto for every other type of female on male crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:58 PM
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Ok corpo You are engaging in bad faith. Go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:18 PM
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That’s a naive non-solution If a small number of people stand to make billions of dollars off of basically socially engineering people, and your answer is “it’s every individual against the giant corporation and its algorithms”, who do you think is going to win, every single time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:09 PM
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What about behavioral sinks though? Sometimes what people want most and what people want now are in conflict. These dating apps seem to basically hijack people’s lizard brain
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:43 PM
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Meanwhile: shop = Rented cowork cubicle, house has 28 years left on a 30 year loan and isn't much, BMW is a 130k mile shitbox 98 3 series, stocks are on a Robinhood account.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/20 06:54 AM
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How do I download this, I want to download this..
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/20 06:47 AM
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Apparently burning down people's houses or conspiring to do so is just being an asshole "Bro that was a dick move my wife and kids were in there. Really bummed out."
/r/PussyPassDenied16/07/20 06:33 AM
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You're kinda both. That's aight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:38 PM
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Hey there are pretty tomboys. But if you can work with me on my GT, like hiking, cart racing and general outdoors stuff? You qualify as a tomboy to me. And there's nothing wrong with that, tomboys are truly the most wrongfully oppressed minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:25 AM
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You're a girly girl aren't you? THEY FEAR THE TOMBOY OUTBACK WAITRESS
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:21 AM
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Oh come on they're like bros but you can fuck and it's not gay. Traps are overrated, bring back tomboys, traps without the stupid dresses and the dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 04:19 AM
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Congratulations, you befriended and/or created tomboys, the most perfect creatures to ever walk this Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 03:38 AM
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Sir that would be a laxative and that's pretty gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 04:42 PM
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No, my penis did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:50 PM
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Radfems are one among few groups of females who hold basically zero sexual market value, but you've probably experienced this firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:49 PM
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You're literally the female version of an incel, you came here and just shat straight up hatred with no argument remotely relevant to what was being talked about. No, I'm not going to take you seriously and neither will anyone else. I'm just here to smug at you with my evil mansplaining maleness. PS I have a penis
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:46 PM
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Men don't cry about you or your broken English. They pity you or laugh at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:41 PM
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No, it's actually quite rooted in history and evolutionary psychology. Do you think the outlawing of polygamy in almost every society in history was just to be mean? It's incredibly obvious how males react to having no reproductive prospects. They kill chad or die trying, or they fall into idleness and self-harm. It's visible in most species of animal on the planet, including man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:38 PM
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Most people are only not fit for it if they topple over into fully believing they're not fit for it. Mentality isn't everything but it accounts for A LOT when it comes to success in nearly every facet of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:35 PM
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That doesn't mean it doesn't matter. It means it did matter a lot and now we have a worst case scenario of a bloody revolt because people sat on their hands and ignored major problems. Not that I think there'd be a "beta uprising" but I'm going with the scenario you presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:32 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:31 PM
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Black pill doesn't have a solution. Black pill means you've opted out completely and aren't coming up with solutions because you think it cannot be solved. Literally just Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:31 PM
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Name checks out. Enjoy your cats and your tear-drowned chocolate ice cream.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 07:29 PM
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You're right, I took someone else's word for it about the age group because I'm usually pretty tempted to believe people are misinterpreting a statistic. Lol. At any rate, I've probably seen this stat before when I was being less lazy. I'm well aware of the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:08 PM
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It is true though. Have you done even 5 minutes of research into the black pill community?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:06 PM
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Language has meaning. There are common definitions to phrases. Just accept that black pill in the vernacular means what everyone else on the planet aware of the term knows it means, if you want to create some new concept of a hybrid between red and black, then do that and give it a different name. Linguistic chaos helps nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:05 PM
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Because ten women will chase 4 men and ignore the other 60% I think the other 60% are well within their right to criticize that given it has social effects far beyond simply their own unhappiness. Bonus points if some of those 60% become the very men 30 yo gold diggers chase when the men are 50 and rich. Then those women have to pay back the bill of the advantages they had earlier. It balances out in a way. Don't like it? Then settle down early. Nobody mocks a wife and mom who didn't ride the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:00 PM
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Blessed post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:53 PM
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Quarantine workouts be like
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:51 PM
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Yet many of them also want to make men more docile. I can't imagine the hell this is for people like football players, soldiers, etc. Your wife supposedly loved you for who you were, your life and career relies on testosterone and the capacity for violence and aggression, and then when you think they love or accept this about you, they try to make you docile and feminine and domesticated, and then if you fall for it, not only does your job suffer but they begin to resent you for it. It's totally…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:49 PM
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Imagine becoming one of the best at something on the planet and being divorced by your "spends-all-day on social media and shopping" normie wife because you're not motivated. Does she think unmotivated people can become the best at an extremely aggressive, difficult sport? Or is she saying he has lost motivation he once had? I'm so confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:46 PM
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Here's an idea: two different types of people are saying these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:44 PM
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This is ridiculous. If you look at any statistical analysis of how one gender rates the other gender compared to basic laws of statistics (ie. 60% of a group cannot be below average), it is women who more consistently underrate male appearance compared to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:44 PM
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No, you can't. That's literally an integral part of black pill. Black pill = red pill but with the conviction that the effort itself is hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:42 PM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:40 PM
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They're not mutually exclusive. One contributes to the other, though hypergamy is definitely not the only cause. It's a multivariate mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:39 PM
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Definitely a factor. Especially since so many young people had fucking awful, miserable boomer and gen x parents. Once you escape that negative shit you avoid negative people like the plague. Now I'm going to be ironic with a mostly negative comment but if it can't be said here it can't really be said anywhere. That said, have you ever considered that many men are sexless because they're genuinely disgusted at the degradation of the quality of women? If men have become nihilistic whiny manchildr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:37 PM
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You need to learn how these stats actually work. As someone else mentioned, it includes all men ages 18-24. There's no detail as to how it is distributed in each age subgroup (18 yo, 19yo, 20, etc). So for all we know, most of the 18-19 year olds could have had no sex with a bunch of them having sex from 20-24. In my case I didn't have sex until I was 19, but I had passed up opportunities to do so since I was 14 because I'm not a fucking moron who wanted to risk knocking up some girl before I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:33 PM
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Wow someone who understands statistics. Sexlessness is DEFINITELY a rising problem and hypergamy (as well as introverted male behavioral traits like too much gaming and I say this as someone who games too much) are to blame, but that statistic is meaningless with that much of an age range included, considering it's literally the time period from "legal adult" to "historically had two kids by now and today probably still lives with parents"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:30 PM
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Do milk
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:27 PM
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No. Masons design and build shit, so they're likely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:26 PM
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A world full of black pilled people would lead more to mass suicides than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:24 PM
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Imagine believing there are no recognizable patterns to human behavior and just concluding that everyone is completely unique despite being the same species.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:20 PM
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Then why have the additional whiny bitch baggage of being black pill. Black pill literally just means woke and hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 01:19 PM
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You don't think women also have an issue with completely stopping effort once they feel secure in a relationship? It's common for people in general. They get overly busy, they get fat, their wife or husband becomes more their home's co-owner/roommate than anything else. Balancing that is not a man problem, it's a modern life problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:59 PM
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You're too stupid for words. You completely missed the point with the timeframes thing (the point was to further reinforce why a relatively recent definition for a 2600 year old idea is worthless) and the point of swearing you out was so I could ironically say how nice it was to express yourself, lol. Also, having emotions about a literal life and death thing is not irrational. Imagine telling someone who liked defibrillators that he was "obviously too attached and irrational about it because on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 02:08 PM
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Words change over hundreds of years. A human life is ~70 years. Stoicism is 2600 years old. So no, I just assumed you were not an idiot. If you refuse to learn more about stoicism than merely the one sentence dictionary definition before blaming it as the leading cause of male suicide you are an idiot and reckless with the lives of others. That makes you what I would define to be a generally immoral person and a waste of my time. You also never once addressed a specific argument I made that coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 11:42 PM
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It's not historical significance. I really dont understand your manner of thinking, in one post you'll say that stoicism is the leading cause of male suicide which only makes sense if a large percentage of men are stoics, and in the next you'll refer to the most foundational and still widely read stoic philosophical texts as merely historical documents, as if stoicism is a mostly dead philosophy. Seneca and Marcus Aurelius are still the top stoic authors by popularity, dude. We aren't even havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 12:40 AM
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My argument is that the dictionary is insufficient, not wrong. Meaning is malleable and changes depending on how many words you have to explain a concept. How would your understanding of anything change if your college could only use the dictionary to teach you? It is simply insufficient, there is no arguing that point. You're trying to tell me what stoicism is with the dictionary, I've read that entry and then 4 books about stoicism as well as the meditations of Marcus Aurelius and the writings…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 02:13 PM
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the endurance of pain or hardship without the display of feelings and without complaint - https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-telus-ca-revc&source=android-browser&q=stoicism I already explained why dictionaries are surface-level and insufficient for a full understanding of a concept. ​ The emotional issue with many men is that they suppress feeling their emotions, not expressing them. Expression can lead to catharsis, but there's also a stoic kind of catharsis in having a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 05:59 PM
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You conflated my opposition to your blaming stoicism for the problem with my not acknowledging the problem, which is funny because I've been aware of the problem statistically since 2012. Saying that "statistically" stoicism is to blame is fucking absurd and shows that you are a sciencist, not a scientist. My argument is that you don't know what the fuck stoicism is and you make it more apparent with every comment. A clever person would be curious enough by now to maybe read some Seneca or Marcu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 03:44 AM
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And driven up state debt to an unsustainable level. One of the hallmarks of societies that built wealth in the last 2 centuries vs those who cannot provide for their citizens is the ability to grow living standards in conjunction with economic growth so it is sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 04:58 PM
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It can be difficult to keep a six figure salary if your idea of work is that work completely ends when you walk out the door. And no, not really (stressful). Pick a career that doesn't feel like work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:25 AM
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Apologies, this is long because it's a very serious issue to me as I was suicidally depressive for an extended period of time and it nearly destroyed my life. Ok, you seem very confused. I denied stoicism is to blame. I laid out my case for what stoicism is and why it has nothing to do with depression because it doesn't advocate what you said it did, which was your argument for it causing depression. Please, for the love of god, go farther than just looking at the dictionary definition for a con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 08:21 AM
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Interesting. What are the economics of it? Are most of the popular forms of birth control older drugs whose R&D has already been paid for? Or are they newer drugs? This is relevant because most of the cost of producing a drug and selling it is in R&D and marketing, but the latter is something that shifts with consumer demand. So, if the popular birth control is cheap to produce and already paid for, I don't see why universal coverage would be an issue for premiums, in which case I dont see why i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:07 PM
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I see differing opinions on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:04 PM
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Work and life aren't separate if you want to really get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:30 AM
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And the smart women walk away when he says that because a smart woman knows that a business owner definitely works, just for himself, and if he's done quite well, shareholders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:27 AM
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There are still people who deny this, amazingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:26 AM
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Robert Greene's stuff is quite good, and it's not gender-specific either. Anything about human psychology, behavioral economics, etc. really..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:18 AM
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We are all special little snowflakes, every human is apparently its own species that never existed before and never will exist again, lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:16 AM
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I really wouldn't read too much into it. People will sell anything that is legal that other people will buy. This is just the result of entrepreneurship, the low standards of the music industry (anything that makes money is fine with them), and a lack of the old school laws we used to have around this sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 08:12 AM
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Also you cant 100% be certain of this. First of all, nobody can prove a negative. It's not my job to prove stoicism doesn't cause suicide, it's your job to back your claim that stoicism does cause suicide. Stoicism is a common trait of a great many successful CEOs, Generals, Emperors and inventors. Associating it with emotional numbness, which can cause suicides, leads me to believe that you don't have a concrete understanding on what stoicism is, hence I'm liable to think that your claim that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:58 AM
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Children need to not have birth defects. The increased rate of birth defects are proven. You have no proof that waiting until 30 instead of, say, 26, results in women with their "shit" more together. On the contrary women seem to be doing quite well in their mid to late 20s and start to decline by various metrics in their 30s. If that's your take on me personally with literally no information about me, you're retarded. People can have opinions on things that have nothing to do with them, it's ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:45 AM
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Nobody is officially stable, mature and with solid community behind them just because they're 30. Do you think the day you turn 30 is a magic day or something? You read the stats, the 30 year old had much higher chances than someone younger of Down's. And besides, autism is the real risk in the 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:58 PM
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Again, that word access. Isn't birth control relatively inexpensive even without insurance? And aren't there ways to get it free if you are low income?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:56 PM
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A combination of different contraceptives produces an almost 0% chance of pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:10 PM
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You have a right to things. You don't have a right to free things. Government spending is at the government's discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:08 PM
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No, it isn't. You and I will never agree. Your rights do not trump the rights of others. An abortion should only be performed if both parents agree. If you don't like that, exercise some foresight and plan accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:04 PM
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I don't think there is a single conservative politician that has tried to ban birth control in the last 3 decades. Also: if you're going to be smug and make assumptions about what i know, make sure your own case is rock solid. There are multiple reasons why birth rates are low. One of them is that a child from birth to age 18 costs about $200k
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:57 PM
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What do you think a fetus is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:56 PM
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So men can have an opinion about the life of THEIR CHILD but cannot act on it. I hope you are never in a situation where you are forced to experience what that is like. What are men supposed to do? Say "Hey I'd really appreciate it if you don't kill my child"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:54 PM
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It is not more traumatic. One person has a child they don't want. The other person has their child murdered and then is told they are mentally ill for not liking it. If you can't see why believing your child was killed is more traumatic than having a child at the wrong time/with the wrong person, then I question your humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:53 PM
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They can use about 100 different varieties of contraception. Nobody is forcing anyone to grow anything. We are not talking about forced impregnation here and most abortions are abortions of convenience, it's just not "the right time" etc. Killing something that the father views as his child and then telling him he is mentally ill for not liking it is attrocious. I cannot think of a more evil thing to do to a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:51 PM
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Forcing someone to not kill your child is pretty light on the lists of things that you can 'force' People are forced to do things they don't want to based on the opinions of others, all the time. What do you think law fundamentally is? The difference here is you are killing their child and then telling them they are mentally ill for not wanting that. Can you imagine how mind-shattering that would be to the man? Do you have no empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:47 PM
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How does that make it a disorder for the male to have the opinion he does? Are you admitting that this diagnosis is really just a Machiavellian power play?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:16 PM
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Not when it comes to ending the life of a child they both sired. If you would abort a fetus when your partner believes it to be the death of their child, you are a monstrous human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:15 PM
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Stoicism does not cause suicide. You should Google what stoicism actually is. It doesn't mean not having emotions. It is also true that society owes it's existence in large part to the creative and orderly elements of masculinity and femininity cooperating. Everyone criticizes, very few appreciate. In so doing, you're following the human evolutionary tendency of paying disproportionate amount of attention towards threats and underappreciating benefits. Nature is so powerful that you're adhering …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:13 PM
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I just kind of see this whole gender dynamics argument as pointless. Some elements of masculinity and femininity are constructed, revised, added and removed over time, but the cores remain consistent because they stem from human nature. Whining about it is like whining about the rain. And this instinct to say it has "flaws" is kind of diminished by the fact that the flaws are subjective, what I dislike about masculinity/femininity is probably different from what you dislike about it, but everyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:46 AM
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It's a false parallel. I'm not ranting on the street with a tin foil hat. I don't yell at people about their choices. I come to Reddit to talk about it, or I talk about larger societal trends with trusted friends. I am not "Karen" because I have some sense of a time and place for these sorts of things, and I don't watch The Office but I'm guessing she bitches about petty office politics, not major country-wide and global trends. If you're implying we should never think about these things, then y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:40 AM
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I just explained how they concern us though. Large cultural shifts in a mere generation are going to completely change society, if you're not paying attention to that and commenting on it, you're not 'staying in your lane', you're just naive about how changes in the world affect you. A typically American kind of stupidity, to think that we all live in our own islands and everyone else can do whatever as long as they're not hurting me directly right this minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:34 AM
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What? There are several groups that use the term "red pill". There are the nationalists of various sorts, the MGTOW people, and the PUAs. I'm kind of new here so sorry if this betrays a bit of unfamiliarity with how the term is used here. ​ I consider myself red pilled about gender/dating/sex/marriage but I believe sex is part of a larger sacred bond. I don't have casual sex, I don't think abortion is right, and I think the best way for most people to prevent it is with contraception. So.. what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:32 AM
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I don't see how a 0 is boring. Why do people say this? Common doesn't mean boring, and there are far better ways to evaluate someone's ability to generate excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:27 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:25 AM
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Boomercare is actually a higher expense than both of those by multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:20 AM
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Because we have longer work hours than women on average thus less time to go to court, because we know we win very few of the cases that are fought in court, and yeah, because the type of man who ends up in this situation to begin with is often a lower quality specimen who would run away from his responsibilities, whilst it is harder for a woman to do so and the current climate is quite sympathetic and financially supportive to a woman who doesn't abandon her kid (especially when the father does…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:18 AM
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A pro-life man is most likely not having casual sex especially without protection/birth control. ​ I think you'll find that anti-abortion people are very rarely anti bc, it is a relic of ideology that people still group these two things together, when in reality, if you're against abortion, and you have a brain and understand human nature, you should be adamantly pro contraceptives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:16 AM
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We are already below replacement rate, what are you talking about? ​ Also, why are so many people still Malthusians even though the Malthusians have made various doomsday predictions before and they've literally never been correct? Not a single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:13 AM
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A small number of millenials are having unbelievable amounts of sex, but the median millenial is actually having less sex at this age than previous generations, and even less sex in general than previous generations which is shocking since they're the youngest. ​ Basically we are seeing walrus-type behavior. The king/queen of the beach gets a harem and everyone else is either celibate or sex-starved. ​ The result: as is typical, the most flamboyant people gather the most attention. We see Chad a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:09 AM
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Extreme sentiments only work in extreme situations. Most situations are not extreme. ​ What happened is that you properly aligned your informational intake with your daily flow, so you noticed a better result. It's really not that surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:06 AM
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I want her to be able to see, with physical cues, when I'm tired, stressed, lonely, anxious, happy, busy. And react in a normal, understandable way to all of these things. Also, don't read something negative into everything I say and do, and don't try to psych eval me. If I seem distant but haven't said anything, it probably has nothing to do with you. I'm pretty straightforward, you don't need to read Jung to understand me, and no, having a dick and wanting things that having a dick makes you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 02:00 AM
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I wouldn't feel anything. I would think "How do I break up with her and move on with my life?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:57 AM
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Man-children started out as a sitcom stereotype and ended up becoming a real thing. ​ Humans are not good at moderation especially when it comes to modern super-stimuli like video games, social media and television. There is no built-in biological mechanism that says "Too much dopamine" but there is one that is always saying "Get more dopamine". Combine this with a historically low ability for males to express their evolutionary role in society since levels of danger and violence are low and men…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:55 AM
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Men out earn their wives, yet the vast majority of money is actually spent by women and this has been true since the 1940s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:53 AM
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There is no such thing as a liberation movement. A movement is always a play for a shift of power, not a deletion of it. Power is a zero sum thing. ​ Liberation is something you have, ironically, not from isolation, but from involvement with others. It's an individual situation dependent on your personal relationships and the power dynamics therein. Even in a completely stereotypical patriarchy, a 10 year old boy under the thumb of a narcissistic mother is in dire need of 'liberation' but no mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:51 AM
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Men. Women and men both attack 'slut-shaming', body shaming, etc when it is done against women. Women openly engage in body shaming especially against men (and most shaming women receive is from other women), and 'sexual objectification' particularly of attractive male celebrities is very common amongst women but forbidden for men to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:48 AM
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My hot take: Empathy literally means "being able to see yourself in the other person's situation" not "agreeing with the other person's perspective/sympathizing" Empathy is not sympathy. They are different. If you have no empathy, you are a sociopath/narcissist. If you have no sympathy, you might be reasonable, you might not, it depends on context. ​ I really wish more people understood the distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:45 AM
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I can't be the only person who has noticed that men beautify and clean their cars, women's are pigstys. Women beautify and clean their homes/apartments, men's are pigstys. ​ It's pretty damn funny to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:44 AM
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I don't think that it is true, statistically, that most men list sex as the primary benefit of marriage.. I remember reading something a long time ago, a rather large survey, that showed that sex was up there for men, but it wasn't even in the Top 3. ​ To be honest, if I had to guess, the top reason men get married is actually to improve their self-worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:42 AM
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FYI, it's not everyone in college who is like that. The ones who aren't just accept that the culture is dominated by those who are, so they keep their heads down and focus on their work. Look for those people, but good luck coaxing them out of their dorm rooms, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:38 AM
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People who are low N by choice don't fit into this situation. You can learn what the disgruntled high N guy knows without having to live his life. ​ I'd be willing to guess that you can figure out which "type" of low N they are by their personality, dress, talking, intelligence, attitudes about society, etc. Undesirable men with low n counts, yeah, this is probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:36 AM
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That's.. not worth it. I don't think there's a man on the planet who would take that deal unless they secretly want to get pegged but they are too ashamed to ask for it, in which case, this scenario is that man's wet dream come true. And, as a RP man, I am disgusted with that man lol. At least a gay bottom has the nuts to ask for what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:35 AM
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The only difference being one is on camera and the other is not. This is 100% false. The difference is a porn actress does shoots 10x per day, which requires drugging yourself to be able to physically do it. ​ I'll extend an olive branch. I think there's a huge difference between someone who was a 'porn star' and someone who did a porno that one time because they really needed the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:32 AM
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My brother is an executive in the porn industry who got his start working the camera. He networked extensively to become an executive and thus spent a loooot of his time socializing with actresses, directors, company people, the whole thing. He told me you'd be hard pressed to find a porn actress in California (where a lot of it is shot) that isn't on some kind of drug, habitually, opioids in particular. The physical and emotional demands of the job are so intense that it's ubiquitous, according…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:26 AM
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Happiness by age https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/08/youll-probably-have-a-midlife-happiness-crisis-heres-why (I originally found the claim in a book about behavioral economics but here's the same chart basically) Average Age of a Married Census Couple would be a bit difficult to find since most google results are "average age of first marriage" which isn't the same thing, I'm talking about the average age of a couple that would be measured in the "are you married" statistic. I could put some…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:22 AM
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Not really, but it's a nuance type of thing. ​ Being nothing but nice will absolutely kill your chances. Never being nice will absolutely kill your chances. ​ It seems like women want a mix of both, according to their sense of what's reasonable given the context. I think what women really hate is boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:18 AM
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Cheating, depression and mental illness, higher divorce rates.. it's kind of a mess. Whether that's a fault with high n count behavior or with marriage or just an incompatibility between stable total monogamy and the high n count type, that's a matter of interpretation. ​ Personally I think the faults with low n count + marriage as the societal norm are less than the alternatives, but that's my take.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:14 AM
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There's still a rational fear to be had in this scenario. If nearly everyone goes high n count, then you're now a minority, with everything negative that comes with that. Your prospects are diminished. ​ Culture is, in a sense, a tug of war.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:12 AM
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Maybe because we are well aware that society and culture doesn't end at the doors and windows of our home. A way of life you love can be destroyed if you do everything you like, but everyone else turns against that way of life. It's human nature to eventually marginalize what isn't relatable to you, so we care about the behavior of others because we know that if things go too far down the road we cannot follow, eventually, it will end up affecting our life. It's hard to live a normal life in a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:10 AM
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Several things. ​ Fertility and mindset. Fertility is self-explanatory. For mindset, when you are the type that wants to settle down early, you don't typically get that feeling that you 'compromised' by settling down. The settling down is what you wanted. That's very attractive to red pilled men, any nonhypocritical red pilled man is doing and thinking the same thing, unless they can't find someone like them, or they're MGTOW, and many MGTOW were trad types who became disgusted and alienated by …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:06 AM
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Boredom and anxiety, an unusual combination that is quite modern apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:02 AM
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Frankly, it's manifest observable reality. The best cultural takes are backed both by statistics and by a very large number of 'personal experiences' from all kinds of different social and economic strata. Shows that the statistic is not just a sampling anomaly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 01:01 AM
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As a parallel/substitute to children, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:58 AM
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Self-sacrifice and male disposability has been a thing since humanity has existed. We wouldn't have survived the stone ages as a species without that. It's not a cultural thing, culture adapted around it, along with other instincts like the urge to reproduce, the ability to use language to improve social cooperation, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:56 AM
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How is not liking abortion a mental illness? If my wife wants an abortion and I don't and I'm 50% of the picture as the father, that's domineering masculinity if I say "Don't abort my son/daughter"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:55 AM
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That is pretty one-sided and loaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:54 AM
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Masculinity does not necessarily have toxic qualities, unless you're a perfectionist, in which case, femininity also has toxic qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:53 AM
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They'd be viewed with suspicion the same way someone who says "water is wet" is viewed with suspicion. Things that are part of the cultural fabric/basic understandings of a time, don't need to be pontificated. Unless your image of traditional masculinity is a biker bro. I really think you should define your terms or people are just going to be talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:51 AM
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A very recent phenomenon (literally this year's stats), one that signifies a reversal from historic trends. I think it's safe to assume this is cultural and economic contamination of the data. Also, age, since most men and women who fit the 'never married' stat on the census are people who are above 18 but haven't married yet because of age reasons, yet people are happiest in that age group second only to retirees, whilst most in the married stat are about a decade older and in the low point of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:40 AM
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If that's the definition you're using, then men don't need women except 'at will' either. It's a silly definition to use though, because then we don't 'need' almost anything. That doesn't change the fact that we feel like we need a lot more than we technically biologically do. People make decisions based on what they want, what they think will benefit them. Not what they think they need. Who wants to only have the things they need?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:38 AM
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I'd rather have an unprepared mother who learns 'on the job' than have a birth defect for the rest of my life. Nobody ever feels perfectly ready to have kids. It's something you figure out together. Honestly, I think the biggest reason people are waiting is financial. Very few people think it's 'good' to wait, biologically. We all feel ourselves slowly start to deteriorate starting in the mid to late 20s. Hell, we start deteriorating at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:36 AM
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I'd say 2 days to a week, maybe faster in certain situations. It's not something I've ever done, but I'm confident I could if I wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:32 AM
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Probably because they know where the girl lives and they see the girl regularly. One of those "When you have a swimming pool in your backyard, your chances of drowning in a swimming pool increase by x%" kinds of statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:27 AM
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I think that may be a bit of a jump backwards too far, social-structure wise, to draw conclusions lol. But since you went there, I'll bite. Do you have any idea how sex-starved a guy who has been on a tiny boat for 2 months with a bunch of other sweaty smelly dudes is, compared to some farmer who is married and has sex regularly? That may be part of the reason why the Vikings are so well known even compared to other soldiers at the time for raping. It's really not shocking that for so long (and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:26 AM
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What do you mean when you use the term "need"? Never married men and women have lower self-reported happiness. So it seems like marriage does actually affect happiness, for both men and women. "Need" is a strong term, but I think that aforementioned fact makes it questionable to claim that people are just as well off in terms of their happiness being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 12:19 AM
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