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Bookmarking this for when people try to argue against the 80/20 rule
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:23 PM
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In general? Nah, but I do marvel at how women can cry and point fingers and nobody will even question the accusation. That shit was happening to me back in grade school and in some cases hasn’t stopped since.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:59 PM
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See also: “foid”/“roastie”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:55 PM
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What the fuck are you on about
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:34 PM
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Who said it was a conspiracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 02:58 PM
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I think you haven’t gotten out enough, if that’s what you think. As someone who’s interacted with a LOT of people over the years, what I’ve found is that sometimes people decide something is creepy that either no sane person would, or it’s nebulous enough that there would be disagreement or a misunderstanding. And that’s where the problem lies, because we’re not allowed to contest a woman when she says something is creepy even if it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:03 AM
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I think it’s more that men who break these unwritten, nebulous rules are punished so viciously that they want to know what they are ahead of time so that they, y’know, don’t have to go through that. Like if the penalty for transgression is getting cancelled, assaulted, or arrested (yes, yes, worst-case scenarios) then I’d like to know exactly what actions will trigger these responses. Imagine if every time you spoke to a stranger there was a ten percent chance they’d punch you in the face. You’d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:32 PM
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This is probably a bit… niche, but I know a woman who’s a sideshow performer. She clowns, swallows swords, breathes fire, throws knives, does stunts with bullwhips, and Jesus CHRIST is it the hottest thing I’ve ever seen. I’ve been in love with her for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:54 AM
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Honestly? Spread the word. A snowflake never feels responsible for the avalanche. It’s not enough for one person to be on board with an idea; you need critical mass. You’re correct in that you and you alone acknowledging the issue does little, but now imagine if all of you did. We might actually see some change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:16 PM
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I honestly think acknowledgement will lead to better situations overall. Like if a dude approaches a woman and she’s not interested but her reaction is “hey, I don’t like this guy but he’s really making an effort here, and that should be commended, so I’ll just say no thank you instead of cutting him off at the knees”, a lot less guys would start to build up resentment over the constant abuse. That’s all it takes. Just understand what they’re expected to do and not bitch them out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:14 PM
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Indeed! What’s often interesting about it is that I’ll relate the story to female friends later and they’ll often say “what? That wasn’t creepy, that girl was just nuts”. When they don’t, though, they’ll never be able to tell my why what I did was creepy, just that it was. I predict a similar outcome to the tale I’m about to tell. When I was in my mid thirties, I had two female coworkers; Abby and Bonnie. Abby was probably in her early thirties, Bonnie was fresh out of college. I often had to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:20 AM
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I was at a party once. Mixed genders. The host’s sister was visiting from the UK. I was chilling in the dining area, no once else in the room. The host’s girlfriend and his sister came into the room, stood right next to me, and the sister said, loud enough for anyone in the room to hear, “There are no hot guys at this party!”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:37 PM
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Thanks for femsplaining my own gender to me, I’ll be sure to check with you next time I have an independent thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:50 PM
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What the fuck is your problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:00 PM
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I can only speak from my own experience, obviously. I freely admit that my ex-wife did most of the housework. I've thought about it a lot over the years since our divorce. Part of the issue is that my mother used chores as a means of emotional abuse. (She was either BPD or NPD and I've had actual psychotherapists label her as emotionally abusive so spare me your armchair theories about how it was somehow all in my head.) No matter what you did, how often you did it, or whatever, there was always…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 08:14 PM
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lol how did I know you’d go right to the anger and entitlement labels. never change PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:51 PM
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So if you are able to avoid these things you will be looked at more favourably and women will be impressed. Really? Because I hit all of those marks and I can't get a date to save my life. Which goalpost do you want to move first?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:03 PM
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hell 6,6,6 ...coincidence?!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:59 PM
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They say the bar is really low. All they want is a guy who can support himself, isn't a total creep, and has hobbies. When I point out that I have all of those things, they tell me that I shouldn't expect a cookie for being the "bare minimum". So either the bar is really low, implying they'll accept that "bare minimum", or it's a lie and they really want someone much better. I've given up trying to figure out which is true, but apparently women are into guys who don't wipe their asses, so there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:49 PM
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My dad does woodworking as a hobby and has created beautiful pieces. Spending 5 hours using tangible skills to make a complex rocking chair and spending 5 hours trying to beat an elden ring level is just not the same level of mental maturity in my opinion. Before I ask my question, let me state that on some level I agree with you that crafting a functional item is - or can definitely be perceived as - a more "useful" hobby. That said... I play music. If nobody listens to/buys my songs and I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:11 AM
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Can't you just pause it and come back to it at a more appropriate time? Not always, no. Online games can't be paused and there are a lot of games that limit save points as part of their difficulty curve. My ex once got furious with me because I had been playing a particular game for "hours" and wouldn't just turn it off but what she didn't know was that I couldn't save at the point I was at and if I "just turned it off" I'd have lost hours of progress. Sure, in the grand scheme of things it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:04 AM
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So context matters? Imagine that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:10 PM
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I would actually agree with this, in the sense that it's a nice pie-in-the-sky notion that we should all strive for. Unfortunately, I live in the real world, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:12 PM
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If you're on a first date how the fuck would you show anything? Funnily enough, I've been asking this question for years. "I want a man who's dependable and adds value to my life by lifting me up when I'm down and sticking by me through everything!" Ok, and I'm supposed to show you I can do all this over a coffee at Starbucks? HTF do I do that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:02 PM
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Same. Most of them women I've been with sexually seemed like they were either doing me a favor, were desperate for validation of some kind, or mentally ill. There were also the few who used sex to get what they really wanted, which - I presume - was money and security. I think I've only ever known one, maybe two women who outright thought I was sexually attractive and their judgement on most matters was questionable at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:59 PM
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1.) how many men here are in shape I'm not. I mean, I can bike for like two hours and have pretty good cardio, but my bodyfat percentage is still too high and, well, I'm nearly 50 so my joints are starting to hate themselves. 2.) how many men here believe one has to be in shape to have an attractive partner. I'm torn. I get rejected and told maybe I should work out if I want women to like me and then men far fatter and uglier than I am get dates so I really don't know. All I know is, I see women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:52 PM
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what is the main reason you are not the way you want to look right now? Bluntly? While I'd like to be more in shape, I don't consider it worth the effort. I don't like to lift. It bores the fuck out of me. And when I see women complaining about guys who are far more in shape than me not being good-looking enough for them, it's like, why would I do something I hate for potentially years just to get up to the point where women are still nitpicking my appearance as not good enough? Fuck it, I'm fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:47 PM
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This is actually really good advice. I'm going to see if I can't use it myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:41 PM
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Men don't care about your careers in the sense that they won't be more inclined to date you because you have a PhD. If anything, they'll be more wary because they know you won't date down. Hell, I'm in love with a sideshow performer. Woman's flat broke but I don't give a fuck. She's funny and talented and I'd give my right arm to be able to go to sleep next to her at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:22 PM
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If men add sex to the list at all, women tune out all the other stuff and reduce the list to sex. It's weird. Men: "I want love, intimacy, companionship, someone to play cribbage with, and sex." Women: "Aha! So it IS just about sex!"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:20 PM
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Cuddling isn't sexual. lol Ok, I'll go message a handful of my in-a-relationship female friends and ask them if they want to cuddle. We'll see what the responses are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:18 PM
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Maybe if minorities didn't want to be negatively judged for the actions of a few bad actors, they'd do a better job of policing their own. Hm, sounds kinda wrong, doesn't it? And yet here we are, telling men they need to police other men - often complete strangers - for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:09 PM
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Yeah, maybe other women should call them out and... wait a minute
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:08 PM
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what do women have to offer other than their kitty It's a genuine question, though. Like, I have a lot of female friends. Lovely, smart, talented women who make their partners very happy by being wonderful people. I enjoy being around them for who they are and I'm not even banging them. Consequently, their partners are great guys who love them very much and would cut off a limb for them. On the other hand, these whackos shaking their asses on TikTok can't hold a conversation in normal English, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:04 PM
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This is a lot more insightful than people realize, I think. Like... I enjoy self-improvement. I teach myself new skills all the time, and I have in fact gone from a shut-in to a really sociable guy that literally gets recognized at music venues all over the Bay because of my photography work with local bands. I have tons of friends. Nobody can tell me with a straight face I'm a loser who isn't "trying". On the other hand, while yes, I am losing weight and do exercise as best as my back injury wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:55 PM
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Furthermore, what do we tell men when they're nervous about a largely vocal minority? "That isn't everyone, it's probably not going to happen to you, go out and do it anyway." We're supposed to ignore the fact that the woman may flip out and pepper spray us but O NOES she totally shouldn't approach you guyz, some dude might not be interested and be vocal about it!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:01 PM
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But you have a man. Not only that, elsewhere she says she was rejected "about 30" times. Sheeit, I hit that benchmark before I got outta high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:35 PM
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Tell me you're asexual without telling me you're asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:31 AM
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Because it doesn’t. Whenever I dressed up to go out on the town the only people who noticed were gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:27 PM
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All your food is absolutely not poisonous. You just don't want half of it so you tell yourself it's poisonous to make yourself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:53 PM
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Re-read my comment, paying particular attention to the second paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:48 PM
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Ummm, is this actually a thing? I actually spent way more time thinking about this today than I should have. As far as I am aware, the average man has a hairy asshole. The average woman does not. Sometimes, in spite of your best intentions... shit sticks. It usually sticks when you're in a public restroom and can't waddle over to the sink and properly wash, and here in the States bidets are not a thing so basically it's toilet paper or nothing. And no matter how hard you scrub dat ass with dat T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:05 AM
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They are too afraid to admit that they really want intimacy and love They're not afraid to admit it. They just know the go-to snark response is always "buy a dog", "you don't have a family?" or "something something toxic masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:55 AM
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mentally ill millennials
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 01:22 AM
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What, that place with all of the mentally ill millennials? I think you have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:47 PM
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It sure as hell ain’t your humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 06:51 AM
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I’ve been playing guitar for over a decade. Unless you’re famous nobody gives a shit unless it’s to ask you to write a song for them as form of “dance monkey dance”. I literally had a photo of me onstage playing bass with my old band as my profile photo for ages. No matches whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:46 AM
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They seem to think because we wont date most men we think they are trash. Can't imagine why. It's not like women on this very sub have compared men they have no interest in to rotting garbage picked off the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:55 PM
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I'm old enough, and I've had enough good experiences with women, that this stuff rolls off me, but I wonder about the younger guys here sometimes. I'm pretty old myself. I have a lot of female friends. They're all good people, and they don't act like this. The vast majority of them are partnered. Funny, that. On the other hand, I'm single, and of course unable to date any of these awesome women so I have to go out and deal with the other singles and Jesus Christ, these aren't ghost stories; they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:52 PM
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It's that these misandrists think all men are ugly by default, so even the most overweight, slovenly "queen" is still better than the overweight, slovenly man she's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:49 PM
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you should let her know Have you ever actually done this? Let me 'splain to j00 how it usually goes; "You're just jealous!" Ten years, a few beatings and massive credit card debt later, she finally saw the light.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:41 PM
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Funny this should come up now. I recently attempted to do the poly thing in an effort to broaden my horizons, I guess. The woman I was "seeing" broke up with me this past Friday. First issue, is... yeah. I'm a dude, and a dude who women in general don't want anyway. So naturally this "poly" relationship was me dating a woman who was dating four other dudes. Shortly after we met she got "busy" at work and then had some kind of health issue and of course dividing her time among a bunch of guys mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 06:05 PM
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My guess would be the one who actively lies about whether or not she came and then bitches about how men don’t know how to get her off and think they’re great at it when they’re not. Imagine that, when you lie to someone they don’t know the truth, who’d have guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 06:01 PM
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Is this where you prove my point by dismissing any examples I give as “not really emotional abuse”?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:13 PM
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Same. I had a - female - friend who's a pretty damn good photographer take a bunch of photos of me and it didn't do a damn bit of difference. Whenever I mention that here there's always this one yutz who insists that she's just not as good as I think she is. Man wrong, just world, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:24 PM
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White men get to pick whoever they want. You think so, huh? Dude, have I got news for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:21 PM
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“Physical” Yes, I heard you the first time. And I both agreed with you and expanded on your point because it's only half the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:10 PM
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Nor an emotional/mental one. Women are black belts in emotional abuse, but emotional abuse is never even recognized as such unless the abuser has a penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:26 AM
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I’ve had this happen to me at least three times, maybe four. So yeah, it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:44 PM
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Sex is like air. You don’t miss it until you can’t get any.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:32 PM
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Noted! I typed my response before I finished reading your post. Honestly though I wouldn’t call those things “edge”. YDY tho
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:31 PM
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Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, TBH...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:15 PM
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Why did you match with 100 people if you didn't actually want to talk to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:13 PM
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It’s about having an “edge” I have heard this over and over for as long as I've been on the Internet. Interestingly, not one person has ever actually defined what exactly an "edge" is without devolving into goofy stereotypes about motorcycles and leather jackets. So, what is an "edge" and how are you supposed to convey that over coffee at Starbucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:50 PM
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This is a great analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:07 PM
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Furthermore, imagine saying this about any demographic other than men and expecting it to fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:59 PM
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A bullet or knife will kill you the same no matter who you are. Indeed. Women are always saying "Why don't you step in?" Well, the odds that the dude we're about to "step in on" is packing something sharp or shooty these days (or rolling with his boys) is pretty damn high. Even law enforcement tells you not to get involved if you don't have training and/or backup. Talk about entitlement to expect us to risk being shot or stabbed for a total fucking stranger. Furthermore they act like physical in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:54 PM
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My position on this has waffled over the years. At this point I have a bunch of friends who are both female and performers of various types, so their literal job is to get up in front of crowds and entertain people while being attractive. They have stories. OH, do they have stories. Stories that legit make me angry that they experienced them. When they recount these stories to me, I listen, and I offer no opinion or judgement other than "That sucks. I'm sorry that happened to you." Sometimes I f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:45 PM
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Seriously. The handful of guys who said "show me your tits" when they were twelve is enough evidence for them to assume all men are dangerous but if we point to any lived experience that women are less than truthful then suddenly it's "selection bias".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 05:21 PM
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You got a link to the study? Sadly, no. This was years ago and I'm an old man. They say memory is the first thing to go. At least, I think that's what they say. I forget. How did they determine that the complaints decreased due to that reason and not because the police acted better on average knowing they were being recorded? My guess would be they started releasing the footage from a bunch of alleged incidents that showed that the complainants were lying. Honestly though? I'm fine with bodycams…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:12 PM
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oh, that's easy! If it's not the group you want to denigrate, you just call "false equivalence!" and the argument is over. "No no no, you see, there can't possibly be something wrong with this entire group! Men, on the other hand..."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:24 PM
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The beautiful thing about the times we live in is everyone can see for themselves now. Its like when cops were forced to wear body cams and more people film in the street. This isn't making the point you think it's making. In the couple of cases I've read about where body cams were utilized across departments, complaints of police brutality decreased because people knew that if they were lying about it the cops would have proof. Seems like people lie to advance their own agendas... who knew? It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:23 PM
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Since women consider men ugly by default, you’re going to assume the guy in the relationship is uglier than the girl unless the guy is a literal male model, especially if you’re a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:01 PM
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While I won’t disagree that this is a trope, I’d like to point out that often the geek doesn’t get the girl by virtue of himself as he is. He often has to prove himself by doing something ridiculously over the top at great personal risk to himself for a woman who often isn’t that much of a prize herself aside from maybe being pretty. I mean, I just watched the original Jumanji the other night and Robin Williams and the female lead - whose refusal to rescue Williams was a major plot point, by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:53 PM
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I’ll C your V by suggesting that if you think - and I presume you’re referring to the MCU here - that the “central theme” of the MCU Spider Man trilogy was Spidey “moving heaven and earth for some chick who barely gave a shit” then you didn’t actually watch any of them. At all. Come back when you’ve actually watched the movies you’re commenting on, then we’ll talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 08:45 PM
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Clearly she just needs to shower more. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:40 PM
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Sometimes, yeah. I do a lot of photography for local bands so I’m always approaching them at shows, and the trend nowadays is that bands are either fronted by the lone female member, or she handles all of the band’s arrangement by default for whatever reason. So I’m always making friends with female singers, bassists, and so forth. And because the vast majority of them are either dating/married to someone in the band, I don’t go into these conversations looking to score. That said, I know a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:33 PM
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If she’s attracted to him, he’s a high-value man. If she’s not, it’s toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 10:11 PM
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I have a competing theory. Men put in more effort than they get credit for, but because it’s not “enough” then it doesn’t count. How much is enough? Your guess is as good as mine. Like, I lost fifty pounds recently. Took a lot of effort. But I’m still overweight, so anyone who looks at me would assume I’m fat because I sit on my ass all day and don’t watch what I eat or exercise, neither of which is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:52 PM
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You just said animals don’t rape. Dolphins and ducks are some of the biggest, most rapey assholes on the planet. The female duck’s vagina literally evolved in response to the endless threat of rape from male ducks. So yeah, animals rape. Some animals rape a lot. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:35 PM
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Nobody tell this person about dolphins. Or ducks, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 11:24 PM
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I have no fear of rejection. Same. I no longer ask women out because I fear rejection; I simply know it's a waste of time. If you already know the answer, why ask the question? It's a fear of...the man just expecting me to do absolutely everything in the relationship. Funny how y'all don't have a problem expecting us to do absolutely everything. "I have to make an effort? OMG, that's his job!". Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:50 PM
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I play guitar. I have bad news for you, friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:05 AM
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You're not Leonardo Di Caprio. Maybe not, but I've got a lot of younger female friends (20s-30s) who seriously tell me to date younger whenever I mention how difficult it is to deal with the laundry lists of requirements women my own age have. Either they're lying to me or don't understand their own demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:15 AM
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Unfortunately I had the exact opposite experience. Whenever I fought back the girls got offended that I’d hit their “favorite”. Reacting to the abuse was just proof you deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:33 PM
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I wonder how much of the talking-over thing happens on Zoom or other equivalents. It’s very easy to accidentally start talking at the same time as someone else, especially with the inherent latency of networked communications. I used to accidentally speak over my coworkers of both genders all the time. Now I usually catch myself, stop, and say “no, go ahead” when they do the same. Honestly, I’ve been in the business/tech world for like thirty five years now. You’d think I’d have been witness to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:06 PM
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Playing the PPD drinking game I came up with. Gets me hammered every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:09 PM
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"Women aren't a hivemind, but all men are the same." I love this place
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 09:49 PM
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do they want to hurt him an get away with it? No, no. You don't understand. It's different when they do it, you see...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:17 PM
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You voice an idea/solution in a business/technical meeting and your idea is disregarded and then later somebody else brings it up and suddenly they’re a genius! Hoo boy, don't I know know it. I once wrote a five page document detailing all of the ways in which we could refine our development processes and optimize our code and my boss basically circular-filed it and said "we're not doing any of that right now." Shortly thereafter the CEO came down from on high and said "we need to optimize our d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:01 PM
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I've read the book. I thought it was really good. The fact that Norah is a lesbian complicated things, though, I think; it's hard not to draw parallels between her "coming out" to her friends as Norah instead of Ned and coming out of the closet with regard to being gay. I also kind of think that dating women undercover as a lesbian smacks me a bit of being self-serving, and I was both surprised and not surprised at how many of the women she dated admitted to being undercover lesbians themselves.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:43 PM
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So what if you go to bed alone everynight You don't get to dictate what other people find important. Also, I'm basically ok with being single at this point because I know it's never going to change. That said, my point still stands. Giving me more of A when what I "need" (for varying levels of need) is B is not going to cure my need for B. Only giving me B will fill the need for B.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:10 PM
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By that measure if I didn’t text someone until a couple days after a date, they can consider that “ghosting” until contacted on the third. Well, that's the problem. It's not ghosting until it is. It's Schroedinger's Ghost, as it were. Eventually you realize that it's been like a week and all of your texts are going unanswered and now you feel like an idiot for not seeing it sooner. And there's a fine line between "a missed text with a follow-up text" and "this guy is pathetically texting me and …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:19 AM
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Did anyone here actually read Eron Gjoni's 200,000 word blog about some fat chick who wasn't into him? Yes, I read it. It's not about what you're implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:45 AM
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It is true, I saw it, every single media article really tore into Gjoni, while he was a victim of a narcissist sociopath, a self defined rapist. ...he got off lucky. Alex Holowka's dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:38 AM
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I would, but there's different levels of ghosting. Not texting someone you didn't vibe with after two dates is different than someone straight-up vanishing after you've dated for a few months. Unfortunately, I've had both of them happen to me so often than I literally can't relax anytime I start seeing anyone new because in the back of my head I'm wondering when they're going to just stop returning my texts, and when someone does miss a text for whatever reason I start to wonder if this is the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:10 PM
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My point is merely that it’s irrational of you to generalise the behaviour of 4 billion people based on what I assume is a single digit number of women. You must be new here. "I met a few rotten guys so all men everywhere are horrible" is SOP for the female posters, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:04 PM
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The comments from men in here saying that this isn’t good enough confirms my theory that men don’t want “compliments”, they want to feel sexually attractive to women. por que no los dos? My friends and I - male and female - compliment each other all the time. So, I get the security of knowing people care about me as a person. But I also want sexual validation from women. I never get that. You can argue until the cows come home that I shouldn't want that - but the only reason you would do that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:54 PM
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I was just thinking about how once a man uses the "S-word" (ie, sex) then everything else gets thrown out the window. You want companionship and intimacy? Cool, bro. You want sex and companionship and intimacy? Congratulations, now "you just want sex". Using this logic no one should care if they're in a dead bedroom if their spouse is still nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:46 PM
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I've been single for fifteen years. The fact that my bro likes my haircut doesn't have a damn bit of bearing on the fact that I go to sleep alone every night. Conversely, the fact that my female friends all think I'm a wonderful human being also doesn't have a damn bit of bearing on the fact that I go to sleep alone every night. If a man is dying of blood loss, you don't hand him a steak and then go all shocked Pikachu-face when he still bleeds to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 10:39 PM
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Can anyone here tell me the difference between "Assuming attraction" and "Being confident" when it comes to male-female interactions? It's simple. Is the person you're talking to trying to get you to lose an argument? If so, whichever stance you take is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:43 PM
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so when I get told by a coworker or friend later that they were flirting I’m like “oh…” Why do you assume your coworker or friend has any better grasp on the situation than you do? I've had friends tell me "she's into you, go ask her out" only to be rejected anyway. If you misunderstood her, odds are so did they.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:35 PM
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Even embodiments of kindness (like Jesus and such), get pissed and have limits. Indeed. Nobody's perfect, and there are people who will either poke you until you get angry or simply dig until they find any flaw and then point at that and say "see? You're Category #1 and that's why nobody likes you".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:26 PM
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If you can't see the difference between "proof" and "no proof" in individual instances or generalizations, then I don't know what to tell you. If I were to come here and say "I'm a decent fellow but I never get dates" and your immediate reaction was to tell me to stop threatening to rape people, I'd - rightfully - point out that I've never threatened to rape anyone in my life. There are a lot of guys out here saying "I'm a decent fellow" and you're blanketly accusing us all of not showering and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 11:49 PM
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The beauty ideal for men today is what Baywatch was for women in the 1990s David Hasselhoff, anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 10:04 PM
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I agree. "Nice guys aren't actually nice" is a self-sealing argument, because barring the rise of the X-Gene we'll never know what's actually going on in that man's head. Want to dismiss an uncomfortable argument? Just accuse him of something that it's impossible to disprove, or latch on to any visible flaw as "proof", completely ignoring the fact that we all have flaws, even those of us who strive for improvement. Boom. Done. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 09:59 PM
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Then it definitely kickstarted a new phase of it, because I never saw a "supernatural romance" section in Barnes & Noble until after Twilight got popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 07:20 AM
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Paranormal romance and Regency romance are king right now. 50 Shades was originally a Twilight fanfic, and Twilight invented the paranormal romance genre.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:07 PM
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If you've ever been a part of female dominated writing areas, fetishes and kink are nothing new. Women invented slashfic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:06 PM
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I'll never understand people who act like it's such a time sink. It takes me a while to get off, and then I usually wind up falling asleep for a few hours, then waking up drained. When I used to have sex with my partners, it would thus eat up the bulk of the night/after/noon/morning/what-have-you. People who can have quickies make me jealous. hashtagfirstworldproblems
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:01 PM
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I'd give you gold if I was that kind of person. I can't believe that people - mostly men, it seems - are expected to justify one of the most natural and basic facets of human existence. It's beyond weapons-grade autism. It's sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:10 PM
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She knows why you requested it. Hm... you know, I honestly can't remember if I even requested it, but I wasn't in the habit of doing such things back then. So this one could go either way. I don't know if I'd have called it a "romantic dalliance" back then, but looking back on it now, what with how attitudes around the Internet have changed... yeah, probably. It could qualify as emotional intimacy, at least. Where are you meeting these women? Everywhere. I'm not 'in the closet' when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:09 PM
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my guess is because you’re interacting with women in these very vulnerable ways that you don’t men? Kinks, crushes, crude jokes, etc.? I'd have to go and take an audit. I have actually gotten in arguments with male friends - who are no longer friends - over such issues. I used to wear my heart on my Facebook page and people had no problem telling me exactly how much of a whiny bitch I was being. The joke in question wasn't crude; it's kind of a long story, but the short version is that this woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:11 PM
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2) I’m not sure my mom or dad would have condoned an adult 15 years older me sending me sexually suggestive photos that I place next to my computer. I do think any parent would have had to have a chat about that with you. But definitely not in the way she did. I can only imagine how my parents would have reacted lol Man, I haven't thought about her in like thirty years. I suppose it can definitely seem really sketchy on the surface, but I have a few thoughts. The first is of course your parents …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:01 PM
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Hm, ok. I guess this one qualifies. Some people, if they're arguing with you, will look for ammunition. Anything that would let them get a leg up on you. I used to belong to this one forum once where this one woman literally went to dig through my profile looking for anything she could insult me over because she couldn't address the argument I was making. Never had a guy do that to me. So having said that, one of my most memorable experiences was when I was a teenager. Prolly like fifteen or so.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:49 AM
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Even if the men here did have an experience, the chance of them actually sharing it is quite low. I'd roll with this one. The OP even opens her post by saying "Whatever you're about to tell me probably didn't happen." Why would you engage?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:37 AM
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Man here. I've never said women "throw it back in my face" when I'm vulnerable. What I have had women do is use what I've told them to make negative judgements about me, which they then use to color future interactions, which may or may not count as having something "thrown in my face". I've also had these experiences rationalized away or told that they "didn't count" or didn't actually happen the way I'd perceived them. Y'know, all the stuff women claim men do to them that's "misogynistic". I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:31 AM
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Nah, what I meant was, the answer is basically the same for every guy on here that leans red so there's no point in me typing it out yet again because I'm sure you've seen it before. In my case though, what I found would eventually happen is that people would start to develop a negative opinion of me whenever I voiced the fact that I was unhappy about something. It wasn't an instant thing; Atlas' maxim about "masculinity tokens" certainly applied here and apparently I'd used up my quota. The mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:47 PM
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I dunno, what chick rejects a guy they're thirsting for because they didn't open with a canned pick-up line? "Damn, if only he had checked off that box. I have to reject him now!" One of my closest friends admitted to me once that any guy who asked her out without flirting first would be automatically rejected... even if she would have said yes otherwise. So yes, some of them do expect you to play their games first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:37 PM
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Technically true. However, I can at least mitigate a lot of the risk by not doing stupid shit. Odds are pretty good, for example, that if I stop at red lights I won't get killed unless someone else takes the initiative to run the light. The only way your analogy is actually analogous is if I ran the risk of being arrested by simply walking down the street because someone randomly singled me out of the crowd and screamed "rapist!". Furthermore, I have a long history of being rejected. Why would I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:23 PM
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I live in NY, and my friends are all in NJ, NY, CT, NH...Basically all coastal. So it may indeed be regional. I grew up in NJ. So, there you go. :) Wouldn't have assumed you were. Commenting on the general idea that hugging is gay, with a nod towards the stereotype that SF is the "land of fruits and nuts". What happened? You've been here long enough to know better than to ask that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:18 PM
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What swamps are you people living in? Who are you associating with? Seriously. I worked at the Google a couple of years ago. You'd think this place would be like one giant neckbeard convention of the most spergy Stemlords on the planet. Nah, I'd sit in the cafes at lunchtime and just people-watch. Everybody was normal. Super diverse crowd, too; that's why I basically laugh at anyone who says STEM is the playground of straight white men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 07:06 PM
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all I have to do is approach them and tell exactly what I want and some percentage will agree to it because my offer was appealing? ...everyone believes this until they meet that small handful of nutcases who make up stories out of whole cloth and then you find yourself in a difficult situation because hashtag believewomen. I mean, this shit was happening to me decades ago. In high school this one girl would tell anyone who listened to her - including her best friend, who was a friend of mine - …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:54 PM
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I can't imagine anyone having real, true friends who wouldn't at least do this last part. Yeah, it's weird. I think this is regional. I remember when I first moved to California and made some male friends. The first time one of them hugged me I froze. Not because I had a problem with it, but because it had literally never happened before and I was caught off-guard. And no, we're not all gay. There's something of a grain of truth in the concept of toxic masculinity because these guys are clearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:13 PM
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My guess is that the so-called "insecurities" are just an excuse they use so as not to have to admit they're shallow. I asked a woman out once, and she told me that she had just gotten out of a relationship and needed some "me time". That made sense to me, so I wished her well. A week later she was complaining on Facebook how "hard" it was to meet decent guys on OkCupid. Yes, everyone has insecurities, even the guys she actually dates. Your insecurities only matter when she needs a valid-seeming…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:51 PM
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Hm, tough to answer this one. I mean, if you're calling out the general "you" then I'm the exception to the rule, but if you're calling out "you" as in me, a dude reading this post, then at least in my case you're wrong. I have hobbies, an active social life, a large circle of good friends of both genders and I network all the time. I've mentioned it here before, but I do photography at local shows. Bands know who I am. Venue owners know who I am. I'm plugged into this scene to the point where p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:47 PM
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“Confidence” is not a requirement for that line of work. Seriously. I know a lot of performers. They're some of the most insecure people you'll ever meet. Half the reason they do that job in the first place is a pathological need to have people pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:31 PM
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I'm MGTOW. I've seen it said further down in the comments that us M didn't GOOW, we were sent that way because nobody wants us. I can't speak for anyone else, but yeah, that's basically my situation. There was no breaking point, no specific "eff this shit" moment that I can point to where I finally threw my hands in the air and WMOW. I guess it was just a creeping realization that I'm nearly fifty years old and I'm just so damn tired of all the nonsense. No, seriously. I just can't be bothered. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 10:22 PM
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The fact that we "almost never hear about" the things women do to men and what the men suffer is exactly the point. This is my favorite double-standard of all time, really. Women: We live in a rape culture. The fact that reported rapes are at an all-time low is just because women are too scared to report. Also women: Men don't get raped. Just look at the statistics, they're non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:55 PM
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I guess I could summarize it. OP: "The empathy gap by gender is real." First response: "I can't be bothered to read this." BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:50 PM
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I think it’s interesting how many women are saying “companionship” when anytime a man says he wants a girlfriend for companionship he gets told to buy a dog or make more (male) friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 04:35 AM
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it’s only a fantasy for a reasons that begs the question, why is it a fantasy if it'd be so abhorrent? I can't wrap my brain around this. I don't fantasize about things I'd hate to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:39 AM
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Naive idiots that didn’t learn “sometimes girls are mean” before they were 15 years old To be fair, a lot of us were told that if they were mean to us that we "probably deserved it". It often takes years of soul-searching to find out that, no. No, we did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:35 AM
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Is this supposed to be a CMV? I don't see a tag on the thread. Anyway, I've had women lie to me directly about this. I will fully admit that I am unattractive, and that's why I'm undateable. However, if I say this in front of just about any female friend I have, the following conversation will invariably occur: me: "I need to become more attractive in order to get a girlfriend." she: "That's not true, it's all about personality!" me: "Really? So I have a shitty personality?" she: "No! Not at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:32 AM
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Sounds like you have some bad luck? That's possible, sure. I'm just saying, guys like me exist so you can't really always chalk it up to us simply not being used to direct women. Also a lot of men don't get hit on at all, so there's that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:19 AM
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The only way that doesn't happen is if you're like morbidly obese Even then that's not a guarantee, if my bestie is any indication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:14 AM
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Aren't people in relationships much less likely to have as many friends as single? I guess it depends. I have tons of friends of both genders and the vast majority of them are partnered. Sometimes they do stuff together, sometimes they don't. Depends on if their hobbies align. Like, I know this one gal who sings in a punk band. Didn't even know she had a man until she mentioned it on Facebook because he never goes to her shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:12 AM
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and when you don't take their flirts seriously, you're an idiot who "doesn't get hints".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:05 AM
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Yep. I observed once that it was only my taken friends who expressed that I was attractive, and that single women never did. My buddy responded "they feel safe saying so because they know you won't hit on them". And I was like, "how fucked up is that, that they feel that the possibility of me wanting a relationship is something that they need to be protected from?"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:05 AM
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Yep. The bulk of my friends are women. I've made some more male friends over the last few years but for some reason women flock to me in a non-sexual way. I don't resent them/hate/them/secretly wanna fuck all of them, and I'm not just friends with them because they have a vagina. The vast majority of them are great people, and I'm glad to have them in my life. It's kinda funny tho because when I was younger I got told all the time, "Make friends with women, don't just socialize with them because…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:01 AM
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Eh, I disagree. I disagree with your disagreement. Maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule, but I've literally had women I've only met once prior run over to me and hug me upon seeing me again. I have multiple large friend groups; I've had people ask where I was when I stopped showing up to events because they enjoyed having me there. I've had mutual friends tell me flat-out "my friend group really likes you". I network with local performers. I occasionally joke that women "adopt" me becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:52 AM
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notallwomen
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:39 AM
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The last time I tried this I got spat in the face by the guy I need to hear this story
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:38 AM
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San Francisco proper is stuffed to the gills with homeless people, most of whom are men and the vast majority of whom are mentally ill. A lot of them don't even look homeless. Over the last ten years or so we've had a serious problem with people literally shitting in the streets, to the point that there's an app you can download to help you navigate the city safely. Hell, the last time I had a job there (I live a bit further south) I hadn't been off the train for five minutes before I had a home…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:32 AM
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Sometimes I would simply ask if they wanted to have sex (after a date or two) and they would reject me saying I was too forward. So I guess it goes both ways. Maybe they’re not use to hearing a woman be so direct about her needs and wants. To be fair, every woman who has ever been this forward to me has had mental issues. If I were on a date with you that would totally throw me off, as well. And I mean serious mental issues, not "she acted not feminine" mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 05:21 AM
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That's a pretty big if, why would she say that I'm harassing her ? I don't know, why did I watch a video on YouTube yesterday where a woman posted multiple videos on TikTok about how she decided that a man holding hands with his ten-year-old-daughter was a human trafficker, confronted them, asked the girl if she needed help, followed them around the store, and a bunch of other shit I don't remember? That dude's lucky she didn't call the police. She made the pharmacist (they were in Target IIRC) …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:49 AM
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I think the point is that a man with Tess Holiday's figure/BMI wouldn't even be able to be a model in the first place. Even "plus-sized" male models have to look like they were chiseled out of granite. That said, most plus-size models I've seen are lovely people. I think Tess Holiday is only well-known because she's so outside the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 04:01 AM
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Ah yes females, the real experts here to explain to us what its like being a guy. Seriously. I was in fact bullied for my looks on more than one occasion. One of my favorite anecdotes was how I was sitting in a restaurant lobby in Beijing and this woman just started swearing at me out of the blue in English and calling me fat. To this day I have no idea what her problem was; I never even made eye contact with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:54 AM
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Eh, no Eh, yes. I do photography on the side (and I just have a lot of female friends in general) and even the fattest, ugliest women I know have a man. Those men aren't always anything to write home about, but I can't always say the same for the fattest, ugliest male friends I have, 'cept that one guy whose girlfriend had a mustache.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:50 AM
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There being people who don't meet/expect the bare minimum doesn't change the fact that it is so. Which of course brings us to the fact that the "bare minimum" differs from person to person, so it's kind of pointless to start asserting certain things are. I would think we wouldn't even have to add things like wiping your ass to the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 10:12 PM
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And something beside, videogames or sports I call shenanigans. It doesn't matter what you're passionate about; if she can't relate, she's going to be looking for an exit strategy. I've been on way too many dates where the woman made the mistake of asking me about my surf guitar playing - something I am, in fact, passionate about. As soon she realizes that I have more than two sentences to say on the topic she starts to get that "deer in the headlights" look and tune me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 09:52 PM
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What counts as an unproductive hobby? Making music that nobody buys or gets you gigs? What about reading? Does fiction count? Wuthering Heights or the X-Men? Where’s the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:06 AM
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I have a lot going on in my life. Nobody considers it worth dating me for. This is where you all say I’m the exception that somehow proves the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:36 AM
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You’re probably right. Apparently shitting your pants is the height of charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:51 AM
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Things like basic hygiene and kindness are default level expectations for most people in general, men or women, regardless of gender. Are they? I'd like to think so, but threads like the one OP is quoting seem to prove otherwise. "Wiping your ass is the bare minimum... until it isn't!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:38 PM
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And I most certainly wouldn’t chalk it up to the whole “women love jerks” argument. Just out of curiosity, what about that thing women do where they swear they can spot a rotten guy from a mile away? If a dude's mental health is so terrible that he literally shits the bed how come that doesn't show up on the radar, but a "nice guy" who asks them to coffee sets off a five-alarm klaxon?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:36 PM
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There are plenty of unattractive male slobs in relationships who definitely would not fit the description of a "Chad". Kinda blows the whole bloop theory of "personality" being the be-all and end-all of why you're not getting dates out of the water, doesn't it? I wanna meet the guy whose personality is so captivating that he could shit on my sheets and I'd come back for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 07:34 PM
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Most men on this subreddit (and in real life) think that most men are unattractive because women flat out tell us that. Women are constantly telling us and showing us in real life that most men just do not do it for you. Blue pill: "You're a loser and she's out of your league." Guys: "OK, then I won't bother." Blue pill: "ThAt'S wHy YoU'Re SinGlE jUsT bE CoNfIdEnT." Guys: "OK, I'm confident now." Blue pill: "LOL GuYs ArE sO DeLuSiOnAl WHY DO THEY OVERRATE THEMSELVES" Shit's straight up mental ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:44 AM
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This basically gels with my experience. All of the poly couples I've known had a gregarious, outgoing woman and a total dork of a man and the woman was the one not only doing all of the external hooking up but unless the dude scraped the gunk off the bottom of the dumpster he wasn't gettin' none unless his partner somehow made it happen. I used to know this one couple where they'd show up to a party, she'd bring her boyfriend and her husband would go around totally not hitting on any of the wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:36 PM
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I can’t imagine A happening Oddly enough, it happened to me, although I guess it depends on how you frame it. I was dating this cute Mexican gal back in the day. We had good chemistry and enjoyed one another's company, but eventually she decided I wasn't what she was after and said we should stop seeing one another. I shrugged and went "okay". We stayed friends though, and I could tell by her posts on social media that she not only never found a man, but she rarely dated either. Fast forward a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:24 PM
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Counterpoint: today's woman hates men so much that she's basically a lesbian in all but name. I fail to see how the "men bad, woman good" crowd would admit to men being better looking whether it were true or not, because that would be "upholding the patriarchy". After all, if men only want sex because "society told them to" then how could women possibly be straight except by virtue of the oppressive male gaze? /s I mean c'mon, women can't even admit men have problems. This is far, far "worse".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:06 PM
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The one that got me was the ones who said white men who dated Asian women were "basically pedophiles" because they wanted someone flat-chested and hairless who won't talk back. I don't even know how to unpack that one. I married a woman from mainland China twenty years ago and even now I'll tell anyone who listens that if they think Chinese women are submissive... they've never actually interacted with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 10:05 PM
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Some of the most racist shit I've ever heard out of people's (usually women's) mouths has been directed towards so-called "mail order" brides, or even men who just date outside their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:41 PM
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It's not a "threat"; it's an observation. Before sexbots were the scapegoat du jour, it was mail order brides. I used to belong to a dating forum where women endlessly shit on men who sought brides overseas because they "need a submissive little slave and can't handle a real woman". These women hated these dudes and would always make sure to indicate quite forcefully that they would never touch them with a ten foot pole. Whenever I would ask them why, if they would so never want these guys in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:26 AM
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No. I mean simple as in how you describe it. Fair enough. I just notice that whenever women say men are "simple" they're using it to mean retarded. We may be simple, but we can tell a veiled insult when we hear it. I don't think anyone would argue that women are more suited to taking care of children than men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:32 AM
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I think when men and women use the word "simple", they have different meanings and intents. When men say it, they mean "we don't need 100 things all going the right way to make us happy." When women say it, they mean that we're functionally retarded and barely better than children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:26 AM
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There are a lot of people who need to spend even a fraction of the time that they do on Reddit, in therapy. And I don't mean that as an insult. A lot of the people I see posting here are obviously being fettered by some unresolved past trauma that basically consumes their entire lives and how they think about an entire gender. They need help, they're not getting it, and I feel bad about that. On a more personal level, I've had the notion painfully rammed home that whatever it is women want, I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 09:55 PM
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The convenient thing about accusing someone of only being your friend to get sex is that it’s nonfalsifiable. There’s no way the guy can prove he wasn’t doing it, so you get to always have the moral high ground. Did he genuinely start out as a friend and develop feelings over time? You’ll never know for sure and he can’t prove it. And if he decides those feelings are so strong that he can’t stay friends with you if you reject him then you get the added bonus of being able to point to the fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:25 PM
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When I was younger, I was constantly told that I needed to make female friends. I don't honestly recall why I was told this, I just know that I was. I was also the guy who always said "okay" when women I wanted to date said "let's just be friends". I'm pushing 50, and I still make female friends very easily. I run in a lot of circles with good gender balances. I'm the guy women run up to insist on hugs goodbye or hello. My closest friends have always been women. Even now, my three BFFs are all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 08:37 PM
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In my experience, women use nebulous terms with hidden meanings, which a lot of the time border on motte-and-bailey arguments. eg. "I just want someone who's financially secure." Who can argue with that, right? Well, what do you think of when you think "financially secure?" A dude who has a job and pays his rent, or a dude who owns his own home and makes six figures? Both are technically financially secure, but whereas most dudes will assume the first, most women assume the latter. "I just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:09 PM
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Yes, because the only difference is the reason for the no. The answer is still no. "No, because you smell and hate women" is functionally the same as "No, because you only meet the bare minimum and I want someone better."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:05 PM
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Effectively, both are zero. So, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:58 PM
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Semantics. I have yet to see anyone ever acknowledge that meeting the bare minimum is enough. And by enough, I mean a non-zero chance. If you’re the minimum you start at zero. You always have to have more. And since there’s no such thing as a negative chance, zero is the same as less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:30 PM
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Furthermore, when men say “we were taught”, the immediate reaction is always “…and you were stupid enough to listen?! lololol” like bro I was ten Men need to be smart enough to ignore society’s messages straight out of the womb, but women are insidiously brainwashed to the extent that they’re literally not capable of making their own choices, ever. Funny how that works
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:21 PM
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Not in the least. The usual response to “I meet all those qualifications” is “that’s the bare minimum. You want a cookie?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:12 PM
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Whatever the motivation is, he’s still chosing to do it despite me saying I’m fine paying for this. Yeah, I agree with that. Ultimately it is his choice to pay or not, but I just find it funny that we're constantly going on and on about how women are expected to bend to their cultural roles and how horrible society is with regards to "grooming" women to be subservient to the patriarchy but just completely gloss over how men are "trained" from the day they can get a paper route that it's their re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:27 PM
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Works for me. Cheers!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:46 PM
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People that are actually amazing are usually paired up before 30. Not necessarily, and this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not a bad idea to at least look into a person's past but to go into it with the assumption that the person - of either gender - is a loser and has to prove they're not is a recipe for disaster. Besides, the woman in question was on OLD too, and yet he's the only one worthy of suspicion. Funny, that. Beyond that, I agree with you in the sense that you need to find ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:29 PM
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I don't remember how old you are, Poppy, but I think I'm pretty close to your age (I'm 48). I have had it hammered into my head for my entire life that "a gentleman always pays". Women of all ages have told me this. I've also been told that if you ask them to split it, they will and then never see you again. The only time I've seen that narrative change is among my younger, hyper-progressive Silicon Valley friends, but even then I can assure you that they wouldn't complain if I insisted on picki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:15 PM
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give my card to women in the gym? Seriously, I don't think the person you're responding to has seen any of the recent news stories going viral about women confronting "harassers" at their gyms. The one I read yesterday said that the guy was "staring" at her. Whether it's true or not, women are on hyper-alert over the slightest infractions at gyms right now. It'd be stupid to risk being plastered all over social media - and now mainstream news outlets - for simply looking at woman for however lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:00 PM
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My guess would be because of what we're seeing in this thread. Dude's fit, has a great career, and is according to someone who seems to know him fairly well, a good guy in terms of personality. First response is "yeah yeah yeah, what else he got? I'll bet he's just trolling for sex." It's never enough for the hyper-suspicious people hell-bent on looking for flaws to fit their preconceived notions about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:56 PM
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I can back them up I got curious, so I tossed an informal straw poll up on my Facebook. So far out of all the ladies who've responded, it's four "yes, ask" and zero "no, don't".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:34 AM
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The common complaint of swingers is that the women are significantly more attractive than the men in that scene. I'm guessing this varies by region, as out here the joke is "What's the difference between poly and swinging? About fifty pounds."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 06:10 PM
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You’re thinking of kendo, my dude. Aikido is like judo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 10:54 PM
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the same way racists can still have black friends; he's "one of the good ones". At least until he's not, then he's "just like all the rest".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:50 PM
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You just ignored everything he said and made it about some bad behavior. Why can't you admit women use this tactic when the man's insecurity or fear is not a character flaw? Oh I get it, you think ANY insecurity or fear a man has is a failing of his. What's interesting is that often it's not even about the bad behavior of the man in question. For example, if a guy expressed insecurity over being called creepy for trying to strike up a conversation with someone in public, the women listening will…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:58 AM
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and I've been a man for checks watch forty-eight years, now. I've run in more mixed-gender social circles than I can remember, gone to more singles mixers than I can count, and I've been friends with some ridiculously chauvinistic men. Not a single one of them has ever acted the way you imply. They absolutely do not make fun of their friends for dating fat women (either to their faces or behind their backs) nor do they actively insult these women for no reason. Either you are unlucky enough to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:13 AM
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I’ve seen it, and my experience doesn’t even remotely match yours. Stop hanging around with assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:23 PM
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Give them a break. So, let me see if I'm reading you correctly. The topic is that "men get lied to by society". You admit that I'm being fed non-actionable platitudes (IE, being lied to - or, more charitably, fluff that doesn't mean anything), but I need to "give them a break". So, have the goalposts moved now? Have we gone from "men get lied to" to "it's no big deal"? You have to see how you put them in an uncomfortable spot. Yes, I did it deliberately to prove a point. Specifically, that I kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:37 PM
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Nobody can dispute how dumb those kids movies are Kids movies? Dude, I was told this stuff directly - by the women in my life - until I was in my twenties. Even now when I pop on social media and quip about how my weight loss journey is going, and I say something like "pretty soon I'll be thin enough to resent people for finding me attractive", I'll get half-a-dozen female friends lecturing me on how appearance doesn't matter and it's what's inside that counts like clockwork. Then when I ask the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 09:06 PM
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On Line Dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 03:21 AM
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This. I can ONLY date via OLD because it’s impossible to meet single women otherwise, for me. It’s gotten progressively harder and harder over the years, but I’d say either all - or at least more than 90% - of my relationships have come from OLD over the past 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 12:20 AM
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Honestly, I agree with this. Based on the women who express interest in me, my “league” is the morbidly obese and mentally ill. If that’s all I can get I’d rather be by myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:28 PM
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“Ugly men don’t know they’re ugly.” I know I’m ugly. “lol no wonder no one likes you just be confident bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:25 PM
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All the time. I have multiple social circles and I'm pretty sure I have more female friends than male, at this point. My three closest friends are all women. Furthermore, I was out at a local rock show last night. I also host (well, before covid) a bi-weekly board game meetup that was more women than men. I do photography, too, so I hang out with a lot of models. Contrary to the narrative, some of us do actually go out and socialize. If the implication is that we'd get dates if we just talked to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 03:36 AM
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Most certainly. I work in the fetish photography biz as a hobby. I've worked with models of all types, including plus-size/BBW women. One of my most popular models is a 50-year-old woman who weighs more than I do. When I first met her she had a boyfriend and men falling all over themselves to simp for her on Fetlife. She's married now, and still has no shortage of fans and customers. ...and before you say "that doesn't count", she absolutely wants that attention and the things that come with it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 05:47 PM
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Say you only know men who live in affluent areas without saying you only know men who live in affluent areas. When I stop at a lone gas station late at night in Oakland or some of the seedier parts of San Fran MY HEAD IS ON A FUCKING SWIVEL.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:14 PM
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Men are insulted only if they're doing something wrong, women are insulted for their gender. I've been working in the gaming industry and living gamer culture for the past forty years. This is so utterly wrong I'm having a hard time finishing reading the sentence with a straight face. For the last decade or so there's been a concerted effort to "reinvent" (IE, "shit on") "toxic dudebro male gamer culture" by the very media that claims to cater to it. In spite of what said media will tell you, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 06:11 PM
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What are your views on your mothers and if applicable your daughters? Are your opinions consistent with all the women? I don't have any daughters. My mother was incredibly toxic, though; either bipolar or narcissistic (or both, who TF knows) and was incredibly good at putting on a social face in public and bitterly shit-talking all but her closest friends in private. Between her, and a number of other women I've known who did similar, I basically won't trust any woman I haven't known for a loooo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:22 PM
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Yup, I’m actually pretty handy with FX software so my video was of me waving a prop wand (that I’d built) and disappearing. Don’t think anybody even so much as commented on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:31 PM
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Even better is the “the only reason you want sex in the first place is because the patriarchy has brainwashed you” song and dance I keep hearing. I seriously think the bulk of these people are either asexual or traumatized against sex in some way and are furious that the people they hate are normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 07:55 PM
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I think that because so many men make six figures out here that it’s taken as a given by women. That is, they know we have the money covered so they’re picky about everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 04:29 PM
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yeah, I live in the Bay Area and it seems like there's a ton of single women out here... but they're single because they either want to be, no man is good enough for them, or they're certifiable. Hell, they call my place of residence "Man Jose" so I don't really think a shortage of men is the problem. Maybe it's worse in the valley, I dunno. I like it here, but dating? Toxic AF. It's funny the OP of this particular subthread says there's no "decent" guys here. I know a bunch of them. A lot are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 08:47 PM
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Any guys having issues with dating apps? I wish I could find the link, but I read an article a few years ago that really, really rammed home the discrepancy. It was on one of those trendy sites like the Daily Buzzdot or whatever. Anyway, the article topic was that both a male and female writer had to go on one date a day from a particular dating app (I think it was OKCupid) and then write about their experiences. Both the man and the woman were hip youngsters in their 20s. I'd have to say that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:28 PM
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alot of photographers blow at their job, even professionals. Kinda defeats your point, doesn't it? Move those goalposts!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:03 PM
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Really? When I swipe on OKCupid, I swipe left on tiny distance shots, Snapchat dog filters, group photos (who dat?), and other badly-taken pics. I'd say at this point I swipe left more than I swipe right purely on photo quality alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:54 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/nki1k1/you_cant_extrapolate_average_male_attractiveness/gzeif80/ For my OKCupid profile photos. I recruited a female friend who I knew had a good sense of style and was a hobbyist photographer whose work was good enough to pass for professional. We picked out multiple outfits, and spent the afternoon traveling around town to find good spots to shoot. We took casual shots, "modeling" shots, and "action" shots of me playing two of my guitars. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:51 PM
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Why would you ever disclose this information? When you're caught up in the conversation and aren't hyper-scrutinizing everything you say for possible landmines, sometimes you just don't think about it. I am fairly honest to a fault, so if we're chatting about how that whole online dating thing is working for us and she's like "blah blah blah, how 'bout you?" I'll answer without realizing I'm walking into a trap. Has this led to improved dating outcomes for you? The worst thing about not getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:16 AM
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I did eventually realize that there's no way you can either answer this question - or not answer this question - in a way that can't be twisted by the listener. I mean, think about it; you tell the truth, then you're a loser who can't get dates. You lie, and either she thinks you're lying, which is bad, or then she decides you're a player and dumps you. And if you don't answer at all, then you're hiding something and she assumes the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:04 AM
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Women on the other hand really underestimate how overlooked most guys are. I nearly always, on the rare occasion I go on a date via OLD, get my date fishing for how many other women I'm juggling at the time. They're always shocked to find out that not only are they the only person I'm actively talking to, but that they're the first/only match I've gotten in months. Given that I rarely get a second date, I'm presuming that they think there's something wrong with me because of it. Apex fallacy, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:04 PM
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I dabble in making amateur fetish porn that I sell online. I cater to a fairly specific niche; one with very, very few female consumers. We basically have like one, maybe two forums tops where enthusiasts of this stuff can gather, and one of the things they love to do is criticize the media producers like me create for them. Over the years, the single most common refrain from women who do in fact watch our media is that the men in it aren't "hot" enough, in spite of the men in question covering …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 06:19 PM
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Don’t forget the inevitable airing of your dirty laundry as a top 40 single after she dumps you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 09:39 PM
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Bro how many times have you gotten a “nuclear rejection”? N’uh uh. I’m not going to play the “who has it worse” game. This isn’t a fucking contest. But since you asked… I once had a woman proclaim at the top of her lungs in front of forty people whom I all knew that her standards “were better than that”. I saw a friend of mine’s girl posse whip out their phones and start recording a guy who tried to chat her up and later posted the snaps on her Instagram. The friend herself never said a word abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 09:41 PM
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Now what? I think the biggest next step would be to understand exactly the kind of position a man is putting himself in when approaching you for a date and not be a total bitch about it unless the guy is being disrespectful. Use that amazing judge of character you guys all claim to have and let him down easy so that he doesn’t feel discouraged the next time he catches feels for someone. A decent guy who gets nuclear rejections from women without a shred of empathy for him putting himself out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 07:45 PM
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it’s come to my attention that a lot of women really think that men have it easier In dating. On the rare occasions I actually get a match that turns into a date from OLD, the woman is almost always guaranteed to start fishing around to find out how many women I'm currently juggling. At this point I've figured out it's a shit test; there's no way to answer that question without making yourself look bad, and even though I'm not really red pill I can't help but think that this proves Apex Fallacy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 06:35 PM
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I want someone to want to date ME, not want to date anyone. I won't know if you're right for me unless I date you, though. If you pass my looks threshold and seem nice, why shouldn't I give you a try? You could be the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:57 PM
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I seemed to take the exact opposite message away from most of the movies I saw. The girl was always with the attractive guy. I didn't look like the attractive guy, and I never got dates, so I came to the conclusion that girls liked attractive guys and I wasn't attractive. If I ever said this in front of my female friends they'd go absolutely apeshit trying to convince me that neither one was true. So I don't think "media" lied to me but somebody sure did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:45 PM
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I haven't watched any harem anime in like twenty years, but what stuck out to me was not that the plain guy had all these women, but that the plain guy had all these women because those women were batshit crazy and super-possessive. It wasn't portrayed as a good thing to be at the center of a harem. Has this changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:35 PM
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Superbad If you look closely, all three of the male leads in Superbad had to grow up in some form before the women they liked would even pay attention to them. So maybe the "nerd" gets the girl in the end, but only after he comes correct. He doesn't get her just by virtue of his white male entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:33 PM
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Furthermore, the whole point of the movie is that Scott has to stop being a fuckup and actually earn the right to be with Ramona and it's not about simply beating up her exes, it's about coming to grips with the kind of man he needs to be. That's why he ultimately has to admit that he cheated on Knives with Ramona and earn the power of self respect. It's pretty damn blatant. I've also heard a fan theory that the bulk of Scott's "heroics" are all in his head and that since he's an unreliable narr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:30 PM
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I didn't hear about it. Oh, so you don't know gaming culture as well as you think you do. Glad to hear it. In short, Capcom released a bunch of alternate costumes for Street Fighter V and one of Ryu's had him shirtless with lumberjack stubble and it turned into a meme, much like the whole thing with Lady Dimitrescu. It also caused a bit of a kerfuffle because of the double standard I was talking about; male nerds started asking why news outlets were going on and on about "hot Ryu" not two articl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:15 PM
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Two words: "hot Ryu". I guess it's not just guys who can't tell fiction from reality when it comes to gaming. That said, "thinking something is attractive" and "actually wanting to fuck that something" are two totally different stories. I'd fuck Daphne Blake if she was real, but that doesn't mean I can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. Giving voice to a fantasy is just that; giving voice to a fantasy. Attractive art is attractive. Furthermore, I work in the games industry and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:41 PM
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The gamer-gate shit I could care less about as it was just some nerds getting mad about supposedly compromised game reviews, but the actual story of what this woman did was eye opening and sadly, pretty common. It started that way, sure; but Gamergate really kicked off when every gaming/media website on the planet started colluding to suppress people even discussing the story. As I posted the other day, shortly before GG happened the designer of Cards Against Humanity was getting dragged for som…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:14 PM
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your loser friends != all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:50 PM
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Lilith: "Men can't tell the difference between fiction and reality." Also Lilith: can't tell the difference between gamer memes/jokes and real life
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:45 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:13 PM
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Shame is embarrassment, unless I’ve suddenly forgot the meanings of words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:42 PM
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You asked which mainstream communities it happens in. Nerd circles are psychotically woke and have been pulling this stuff for a decade now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 05:41 PM
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If you say so 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:52 PM
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So? It's still behavior policing. Also, if it's purely an American thing why did Madrid feel the need to ban it? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40233435
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:31 PM
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...literally. She wound up in a mental hospital. Great book, though. Really enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:19 PM
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If a woman farts in public she’s disgusting If a man sits with his legs slightly too far apart for a woman's taste on public transit, he gets his photo taken and plastered across the Internet so people can dogpile on him for "manspreading". That is, if the government hasn't already passed a law to keep him from doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:15 PM
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Reddit guys seem to have this idea that even fat or conventionally ugly women are drowning in dating options and it simply isn’t true. My best friend is morbidly obese. She's also partially bald due to a bout of chemo for thyroid cancer a few years back. For various reasons, she didn't date for close to twenty years (we're both in our forties). Once she decided to get back on the horse, she was on OKCupid for exactly four months - getting matches left and right - before she met her current boyfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:13 PM
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used almost exclusively by dudes I have never once heard another man use the term "manlet".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:06 PM
1

You forgot "neanderthal" and "dudebro".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 09:04 PM
1

So, I remember back about seven years ago when some (anonymous, if I recall) internet woman accused Max Temekin (lead designer of Cards Against Humanity) of rape. Gaming media outlets fucking ran with that story, dissecting every possible aspect of it and pressuring the company to put out a statement, deal with the "problem", and take a stand against the rampant sexism in the boardgame community. About a week later, Eron Gjoni wrote a blog post about how Zoe Quinn was abusive to him and cheated …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:59 PM
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Tell me how many times a male friend of yours referred to you as “pussy” ...never? Seriously, what kind of people are you guys hanging out with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:54 PM
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Men have never been shamed for their interest in or desire for sex I guess all those comparisons between men, pigs, and dogs I've heard over the course of my lifetime were just a figment of my imagination. I can guarantee you we're not compared to porcine beings because of our floppy ears and snouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 08:51 PM
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Women: "Porn gives men unrealistic expectations about sex." Also women: "Fifty shades of grey is just fiction, no one takes it seriously."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 07:19 PM
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an average guy shooting their shot with finesse is much hotter because women understand the courage it takes to approach. ...would one of the numerous female PPD users who endlessly tell us that male attention is basically worthless and they don't find it flattering like to rebut this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/21 10:39 PM
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good hygiene Whenever I see something like this on a woman's list, I always wonder where the hell she's meeting so many men who have poor hygiene, or whether that's actually what she's saying. Because when I hear "poor hygiene" I think things like "doesn't shower, has breath that could kill a puppy". When you dig a little bit you often find out that yes, somehow all of the men she's meeting don't actually shower (which makes me wonder, again, where the fuck she's meeting them because everyone I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:56 PM
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Well glad you’re a rare one. ...the other, more logical explanation is that you have no idea what you're talking about and are desperate to push a narrative. Men are bombarded with "don't rape" messages from the day they turn ten. The ones who actually rape don't care. Did you rape anyone? No, and neither do the majority of men. The seminar didn't change anything because I already knew rape was wrong. I think most rapes happen because of people you know. Oh hey, finally something that's actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 09:03 PM
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they never teach men not to be rapist ...that seminar I was forced to attend as a freshman about sexual assault and consent must have been my imagination, then. And I went to college in the mid-90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:05 AM
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The bulk of my closest friends are, and always have been, women. Before the 'rona we spent large amounts of time together; I co-organized a board game meetup with one for nearly two years. I do think that the only way you can truly be friends with someone of the opposite sex is if you don't have romantic feelings for them, and with one or two exceptions I don't have romantic feelings for any of my friends (and many of them are rather attractive). I prefer to not be friends with women I'm attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:19 PM
3

One of the hands-down hottest, most attractive women I've ever met was a professional clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 05:14 PM
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How are you defining an asshole? Just off the top of my head, the guy who spent ten years emotionally and physically abusing my best friend before racking up tens of thousands of dollars in debt, cheating on her in their own home, and then divorcing her without warning (saddling her with said debt and a newborn) was a pretty good case study. I didn't like the guy after spending two hours with him, but hey, what do I know. My other friend's boyfriend got tossed out of a comedy club for getting dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 04:00 PM
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BOOM HEADSHOT
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:56 PM
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For my OKCupid profile photos. I recruited a female friend who I knew had a good sense of style and was a hobbyist photographer whose work was good enough to pass for professional. We picked out multiple outfits, and spent the afternoon traveling around town to find good spots to shoot. We took casual shots, "modeling" shots, and "action" shots of me playing two of my guitars. The only Photoshopping I did after the fact was to erase a hole in my shoe that I didn't know was there at the time. Non…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 03:42 PM
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I lost fifty pounds last year. Went from 274 to 224. I'm 6'2". All of my female friends tell me I look great. Still single and can't get a date to save my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/21 06:33 PM
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The funniest part about this is, at the time of my posting this comment, the thread devolves into arguing about rape not two replies down. Can you tell me next week’s winning lottery numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 09:51 PM
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I was just saying them being banned may not have anything to do with their attempt to improve men’s right. And I'm telling you that it doesn't matter whether it's incels, MRAs, journalists, political commentators, or lifestyle bloggers. Getting bogged down in whether or not a particular banning was justified is derailing to the main point, which is that if social media doesn't like you, they will ban you. It doesn't matter what you said, and it doesn't even have to make sense based on their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 11:11 PM
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The only women who've ever approached me and made their interest unconditionally known were mentally ill in some fashion. No woman I've ever had an actual relationship with approached me first, except for my first GF in high school. And even then, her "move" was to get her best friend to tell me she wanted me to ask her to prom.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:30 PM
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Dude, stop being pedantic. It doesn't matter what the cause is, what it stands for, or how valid it is or it isn't. Social media platforms do not enforce their standards fairly or evenly and there is a demonstrated bias. I work in this industry and I follow a lot of journalists and commentators so I see it first hand; the arbitrary censures, the double standards, and the "well it's different if it's done by my side" bullshit. The amount of verbal contortions YouTubers have to go through to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:22 PM
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It was just a random example. You’d be shocked and amazed at the kinds of things that’ll get your channel yanked from YouTube or banned from Twitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 05:03 PM
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One thing people don't take into account is how difficult it is to get traction for a cause without getting the word out. And we're currently in an age where big tech is - literally - blocking, deplatforming, and getting people fired and/or arrested over their opinions. It's kinda hard to organize a "million incel march", for example, if every social media platform you belong to blocks and bans you for simply having the word "incel" in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:28 AM
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You can't win, as a man. We're endlessly told to look for "subtle" signs like touching and complimenting, but if we take those "signs" as indicators of interest we get angrily told that it didn't actually mean anything and it's just wishful thinking on our part. So we wait for something more overt and then people laugh at us about how we "don't get hints". Man wrong, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 07:19 AM
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They are grounded in reality. I could take this logic to such dangerous lengths I'd get banned. I guess the short version is... TRP confirmed. 'cause y'know, men observe women and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:09 PM
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seriously. "Men don't treat women like people." "I do." "...you don't count."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:53 PM
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y'know why this is the case? Because the societal narrative is that men are fucking useless so when we see one doing something we go "wow, what an amazing dude". Nobody would praise men for interacting with their own children if the default assumption wasn't that men don't interact with their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:36 PM
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If the bar truly is as low as women say it is, then I must not only be absolute garbage, but I'm also so disconnected from reality that I can't even comprehend why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 10:10 PM
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You're wayyyyyy off. I know a few goth singers and they're all total sweethearts. The punks likewise, but I've met more unpleasant punks than goths.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 03:30 PM
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Y'ever notice how people twist characterizations to fit their narrative? "Looking at" someone becomes "staring", for example. I remember once I was relating a story about how I raised my voice to talk over someone and a bunch of people were all like "well I wouldn't want someone screaming at me like that", when I most definitely was not screaming. But their argument falls apart because no sensible person would in fact think a look was creepy, so they have to shift things and use different terms …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:20 PM
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yeah seriously, I used to hang out with a Chad and he was constantly trying to help me. This OP doesn't quite dwell in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:15 PM
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I'm fairly well-known as a photographer in the local music scene. Bands often refer other bands to work with me. I occasionally get paid to do this, even though it's mainly a hobby. At this point I know a lot of local musicians. When I first started I knew one person; my friend E, who was bassist and frontwoman for her own band. I knew her, and had passing familiarity with her then-boyfriend, the band's guitar player. Since people knew her, she would either introduce me to them, or people would …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 05:48 AM
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I know you would rather people keep it real and be harsh I said no such thing. I'm aware that these people were just trying to be nice, and I don't hold it against them. But I do have eyes, and I can recognize when what people say doesn't add up with what actually happens. When someone tells you something that is not true... it's a lie. And again, the OP asked people who were lied to to share their stories. I was lied to, I know I was lied to, and that's that. Again, to be clear, I do not fault …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 08:47 PM
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...which is the point of the thread. Specifically, "guys who felt lied to..." You eventually start to get frustrated by the cognitive dissonance of your friends telling you you're a great catch and yet no one's attracted to you. Clearly something doesn't add up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:59 PM
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If that is the case for you two, I am curious which adults were doing this. Any adult that I made the mistake of talking to, really. The one I remember most vividly was a student teacher I had when I was a senior in high school. She was in college, and so probably maybe five years older than me at the time. For whatever reason we were having a discussion about me in the library and I remember saying something like how I didn't have a girlfriend and didn't see that changing anytime soon because I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 04:44 AM
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The bulk of the women who told me I needed to dress better were usually dating a guy who wore raggedy jeans and a logo tee on the regular. It’s kind of a mindfuck. Especially prevalent in nerd circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:45 PM
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I don’t know if there’s a term for it, but I’m pretty sure my mother had some kind of personality disorder and as a result, I had an emotionally abusive upbringing that took years to deprogram. I’m guessing a lot of guys who have hatred, hostility, or distrust towards women had a toxic mother. Even today I occasionally finding myself thinking her behavior is somehow universal (eg. everybody is a two-faced liar and just really good at hiding it) and I have to stop and remind myself that no, it wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:32 PM
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I've asked this of my friends occasionally. The answer is usually some variant of, "If it didn't work out I'd feel responsible."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:17 AM
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In my experience, it’s not. I have a bunch of hobbies that bring me into contact with women constantly; I go to karaoke bars, I do photography for local bands (a large number of which are female-fronted), I’ve done African drumming classes and been the only male in the group, and board game meetups have a surprisingly balanced gender ratio out here. I used to go clubbing and to house parties a lot, too. The number of women I’ve met who were even SINGLE can be counted on the fingers of one hand. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:22 AM
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On the rare occasion that I date, I tend to date younger. Anywhere from 10-20 years younger. (I'm 47. I've dated women in their 20s and 30s). The 20 year olds approached me, generally. Not the other way around. So it really throws me for a loop to listen to the people here insist that younger women don't want "ugly old men". That said, I've learned that younger women are just better. Not because they're more attractive (...although that's a bonus), but because if I go on a date with a 40-somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 11:04 PM
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I think men are hearing more women (regardless of their life goals) talk about how unwelcome invasive male behavior is and have internalized that to “women think that all male behavior is invasive.” For some reason, I'm the guy that all my female friends complain to about relationship problems, including men hitting on them. Whenever I hear "OMG that guy was so creepy!", I ask her what he was doing. They can rarely explain it. It's usually that the guy dared to speak to her or did something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:48 PM
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why would we record it For the same reason you/they share DMs - you get virtue points for mocking "clueless, loser" men. It's even more widespread now than it used to be because everyone knows roasting men is "in" and if we don't like it we're just big babies. Fact is, it's not just limited to zoomers and even me, a guy who doesn't party as much as he used to has seen it across enough age ranges to give me pause. Basically, "if I violate any of her imaginary and/or arbitrary rules whether I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:27 PM
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Stupidity or ego, is my guess. They don't know they won't succeed until they're slapped with the cold hard mackerel of reality. I have always felt better about my chances with women when I was already dating someone, even though I'm perfectly happy being monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:24 PM
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I don't think "making his penis feelings the most important thing in the room" is good way describe a cold approach. It’s crazy how they feel the need to twist these things into the nastiest possible interpretation, isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:04 PM
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You need to get out more. I’ve been at parties where women - in their thirties, mind - will whip out their phones and read perfectly normal-sounding messages from their online dating inboxes to their girlfriends just so they can mock the guys sending them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:56 PM
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Honestly I think for some of them, it’s greed. I’m perpetually single but I remember once I actually managed to land a pretty decent girlfriend and all my poly friends started sniffing around like they had a chance. I was furious. Some though I think it’s just optimism. Like they got one so that must mean they’re good enough for more. Never seems to be enough. I mean if you want to do it and everyone is cool with it then you do you, but I have never seen a poly relationship that wasn’t all about…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:53 PM
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Based on my observations of the poly couples I’ve known, the woman will be the only one who succeeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:40 PM
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It may be what he desires, but he eventually discovers that the end result is that he’s sitting at home five nights a week while his partner is rolling five deep. Unless the guy is either Chad or willing to pork zeroes he’s not actually benefitting from being in an open relationship. The only poly couple I knew - out of a bunch - where the guy got any real play at all, his wife was pushing her friends to hook up with him. They never lasted though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 10:38 PM
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I think it varies by region. I grew up on the east coast and eventually moved west, and my experiences were so radically different that for the longest time I felt like there was "normal dating" and "California dating". Normal dating: you see a person you like, you chat them up, you ask them out. You don't do "friends first" because that just leads to "I can't date you, it would ruin our friendship." California dating: you see a person you like. You do absolutely nothing about it, unless you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:03 PM
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For example I’ll never forget a man saying “I knew I was ugly when even obese single mothers told me no.” Basically. The only people I match with on OLD are morbidly obese and have a list of red flags a mile long. I don't really subscribe to AWALT, even though I lean red. I don't think women as a group are all attracted to the exact same archetype. I've known enough women in my day to know that they all go for different things. Whatever they go for, though, the only commonality is that it ain't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:52 PM
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I think it would be an interesting research project to see what the percentages are. Can we both agree that fat people in general are a joke in Hollywood?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 12:30 AM
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You're conveniently forgetting that those obese men are cast to be the butt of the joke in a sitcom, usually because they're stand-up comedians who landed a series. And stand-up comics tend to not be conventionally attractive men for a lot of reasons, so there's that. They're not being cast to glamorize being fat. They're being cast so we can laugh at them being abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:51 PM
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Seriously, while I don't date larger women myself a lot of my male friends over the years have (it's pretty common here among nerds in the Bay area) and not once has anyone said anything about it. I've run in a lot of social circles since high school and no man has ever said the kind of shit about larger women that people here claim men say on the regular. Maybe I'm just good at choosing people to spend my time with but half the stuff y'all claim is "common" among men sounds straight out of a sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:45 PM
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I also hold this guy's opinion. It's generally not worth endlessly crowing about it because nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:31 PM
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Society/women: Drills it into mens' heads that "a gentleman always pays" from the day they're born Women: "MeN iNsIsT oN pAyInG, ThEy MuSt WaNt To"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:16 PM
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If I stand just as much of a chance to be ignored by the ugly ones as the hot ones, I may as well just message the hot ones and hope I get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 11:39 PM
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It's definitely a thing, at least in OLD. Womens' profiles literally say "If you're less than 6'0, swipe left" or "Looking for tall, fit man". I had matches ask me how tall I was constantly. Mostly Asians, for some reason. That said, I'm 6'2, white, and have a decent face and I've been single for like a decade, so it's not a magic wand. Not by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 06:40 PM
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Whereas men often go through the rage phase of rp feeling like they were “lied” too by society. Something I really don’t see as you encounter female nature every day.. it’s literally in every piece of media from a young age. Probably the biggest struggle I've ever gone through was getting the exact message you are talking about from society, but having every woman I've ever known swear up and down that it just wasn't true. So yeah, we're being lied to, we know it, and personally I feel the gasli…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:50 PM
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...sometimes I wonder if half the people who post here are asexuals in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/21 05:05 AM
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Get off the Internet and get therapy. It’s not our job to “convince” you of anything and frankly I’d be worried more about the man who felt that he had to than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 05:54 PM
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You want her to stroke your ego. If you want to look at it from a position of bitterness and bad faith, sure. The way I see it, if someone claims to want to be your friend, then the bare minimum of niceness when handling a rejection is a must. But if you're the kind of person who feels the need to assign bad motivations to anyone with a penis, I suppose you can look at it like that. I mean, think about it; you open up to your friend about your feelings ("mEn NeEd To JuSt ShArE tHeIr fEeLiNgS") a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 08:54 PM
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For me the rejection sours the whole thing. For me, it's how she handles the rejection. I'm old enough that I can still be friends with a woman who turns me down, as long as the way she does it is respectful of my feelings. Act flattered, then tell me she's sorry, but she just doesn't feel that way and still wants to be friends, and we've had no history of her trying to take advantage of my generosity? We'll stay friends. Doesn't matter to me if she's lying, even; that bare minimum of respect an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 03:35 AM
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Don’t know, don’t care. I went my own way a couple of years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 07:53 AM
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1 and 3. Definitely not 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:51 PM
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The second part is just having hobbies doesn't make you interesting. so... /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:35 PM
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When I was younger I was thin. No difference. The funny part is, all of my girlfriends have been really beautiful. I guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:34 PM
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So I'm thinking this is, a) you're fat or were fat It's true that over the last ten years or so, I've been fat. I'm still overweight, but as I said, it's coming down. When I was younger I was thin. No difference. My personality, I've been trying to figure out for decades. I've had people telling me it's a problem, it's not a problem, ever since I hit my 20s. Some people think I'm amazing. Some people can't stand to be in the same room with me. At this point I don't really know what to think. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:25 PM
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IME, women who've hit on me most aggressively were almost all morbidly obese and came off as desperate. On the rare occasion I've shown interest to someone whom one might consider "lowered standards", they convince themselves I'm too good for them and turn me down. That said, the aggressive ones are still few and far between, and were often mentally ill on top of it. So no, "ugly" women are not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 07:06 PM
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Board games are hella popular here in California. Nearly every board game group I've been a part of has been a nearly 50-50 split or at least had enough women in it that you'd go "hey, there's a lot of women here". The problem is, the only women who go to board game meetups are predominantly married or otherwise attached. I think I can count the number of single women I've met at these things on the fingers of one hand. MTG isn't a board game. I'm talking stuff like Settlers of Cataan. I've also…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:56 PM
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If I had a dollar for every time I've heard "if I were single I'd date you..."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:45 PM
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BE INTERESTING. Pick something and just get really into it and make friends that are also into it and just roll with it ...sounds good. So that means that someone who; Regularly attends Meetups for hobbies they enjoy with pretty good gender ratios (board gaming) Plays multiple instruments and is a published musician Used to be in a band with a fairly prominent local artist Does digital FX and makes short films Is active in the local music scene and does photography for local bands, most of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 06:39 PM
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Nope, totally true. I got told that and I'm a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 03:21 AM
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hindsight is 20/20, sure. I wasn't as experienced as I am now and probably would. The point is, though, she wanted me and she didn't come back. She masturbated and felt hurt instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:03 AM
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If she wants it, she'll come back to you. So, funny story. I was with a woman once, and things were getting hot n' heavy. I was "examining her tattoos" as foreplay as she had a bunch of them all over. At one point she gently said, "that's it". It was 3am. My sleep-addled brain took that to mean that was as far as she wanted to go, so I kissed her, said good night, and went back to my room to sleep. The next day while we were texting she told me that she was hurt and confused by my sudden breakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:54 AM
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...which is then used as "proof" that they're "bad" and deserve to be treated badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:16 PM
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It doesn't matter who I want to attract. This is what's out there. The options are either deal with it or stay away. I stay away. I'd like to find a nice woman to date but they just aren't out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 06:40 PM
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Sooo do you mean sleep with every man you date right away/soon? It doesn't have to immediately escalate to sex, but some kind of unconditional signal that you're interested in him is ideal. Example: I was on my second date with a woman. We were at a bar, and I put my hand on her knee. She very emphatically pushed it off. Killed the mood for the rest of the night and I didn't call her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 06:57 AM
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I do not think this is a concrete fact that most people believe this, but for some reason on the internet... ...it's not just on the Internet. Soon as people find out I'm divorced, especially if they're women, they immediately ask me "what did you do?". It's especially obnoxious when online dating - it's assumed she had a legitimate reason and that I must therefore not be worth giving a chance. On the other hand, if I were still single at my age, that would be a red flag. Never mind that the wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/21 06:51 AM
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No, I was being facetious. Like, you had to make an appointment to see her because she was so busy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/21 05:27 PM
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I used to be friends with this woman who was pretty popular in the local hip hop scene. One time she was at a show and a guy approached her and started talking to her. Far as I know the guy didn’t say anything disrespectful and she didn’t have a problem with the conversation. Her friends took his picture and posted it to her social media with a caption something like “lol look at this loser thinking he’s good enough for our girl”. The best part is like a week later she’s telling me how hard it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/21 07:20 AM
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What people like to not mention is that most female messages went to the men under 5 ...people keep bringing this up like it's supposed to invalidate the data, but for the life of me I can't see why "I find you unattractive but I'm willing to talk to you anyway" is supposed to be a compliment. If you think I'm ugly and that you're doing me a favor by stooping to my level I'd really rather you didn't. I mean, women on this sub constantly say indiscriminate attention from men isn't validating, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:13 PM
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At least from what I’ve seen and heard. I used to hang around a mostly poly community. You have no idea. The fattest, ugliest women were rolling five deep and if they were even remotely attractive you'd have to "book" her months in advance, assuming she didn't just pull the "I've already got too many boyfriends" card. In every single case the men were either spending their nights alone, creeping on women at social events and getting nowhere, or only getting any action when their wives hooked the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 09:09 PM
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Can I get back pay? Because I haven't been laid in like seven years so it would be nice to retire about now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/21 08:35 PM
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Most of the time, when a woman expresses her requirements to me, it's phrased in such a way as to suggest that guys with those requirements don't exist or are impossible to find. IE, "all I want is a dude with a good job and who doesn't lie to me, is that too much to ask?" ...and when you point out that you have a good job and don't lie to her, she deflects and changes the subject. So clearly, that's not all she wants, but they never say that, so eventually you're just like "cut the shit lady, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/21 08:29 PM
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I was being sarcastic, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 05:54 PM
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Right, because no man ever wanted sex or thought having sex was important before the advent of social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:05 AM
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I disagree, but I only speak for myself, I guess. Good job on proving my point, though, unless you were using the general “you”. Just because it’s A priority doesn’t mean it’s the TOP priority. I want both, and I can’t believe I’m the only man who feels that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/21 03:03 AM
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The problem is that you can’t really have a lover without sex, but as soon as you say you want sex people mentally prepend “only”, as if it’s not possible to want both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 11:57 PM
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I used to say stuff like that. Whenever I said "I want to feel loved", the response was always either "you have friends that love you", or "buy a dog". If you pointed out that a friendship was not the same as intimacy, you'd get "a HA! You just want sex! Go see a hooker!". Can't win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 10:04 PM
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Male, 47. Purple but leans red. Divorced for 15 years, single/unattached for the last eight or nine. I started coming here probably about five or six years ago, mostly because, as a resident of hyper-woke Silicon Valley, I needed a break from being expected to check my privilege on a daily basis and at the time, the RPers were doing a pretty good job of refuting/arguing BP talking points. It was something I needed to hear. Today? Old habits die hard, I guess. It's interesting to hear people talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 12:22 AM
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When I was a teenager, I didn't get my first girlfriend until I was 17 or so. Before then, all the girls were going with the stereotypical jerk jocks, or at least with guys who I felt were better-looking than me. So I assumed I wasn't good-looking enough to get a girlfriend, because people were always telling me how funny and smart I was. I had a few older female friends via the Internet, and the conversation would always be thus; She: "Do you have a girlfriend?" Me: "No." She: "Why not?" Me: "G…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 11:39 PM
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