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Some people take “don’t lower your standards” phrase too far. if your standards are stupid or insignificant you should change them. Your friend was probably struggling because she wasn’t on those guys standard for them to seriously date her. People don’t want to accept that you can’t force someone to be into you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:09 PM
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Yeah but OP used the number of dates to equate to success. I guess in the beginning that’s true because you’re still weighing your options but eventually it seems more like failure if none of them materialize into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:45 PM
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Also I find it interesting for men successful dating is meeting 10 people a week. For me successful dating is finding a partner lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:48 PM
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So men view lining up dates are the power being on their side? 😂 yall do realize that’s normal for women too. We don’t have issues getting dates, people are complaining about being approached in public. But most relationships I know formed over social media, dating apps, mutual friends or work. Not being approached by strangers doesn’t mean you have a shortage of dating prospects as a women. That is mostly an ego thing. Men still greatly outnumber women on apps, I wouldn’t say that is having pow…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:44 PM
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I thought y'all loved and cherished those pregnant women? why are you bashing them now??? everyone seems very upset by childfree women so I was assuming y'all had a deep admiration for pregnancy idk traditionalism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:13 AM
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You can say the same for a man. I'm just giving options since we as a country decided its our business to be involved in strangers' family planning. It's funny everyone wants a say about women’s pregnancy but once it's up to them to help then we act like it's not our business. That's how you keep it fair and consistent. The taxpayers can help fund all these kids they are begging to be brought into the world. It's a group project now :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:10 AM
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Right, they have to like me too but I don’t really have a problem getting that usually
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:50 PM
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I want kids tho, so it wouldn’t be a scenario where I don’t have kids. Im not hiding behind anything. If he lost his job, I would be more concerned depending on how long it takes for him to get a new one. After a month or two I would start getting worried
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:48 PM
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I feel like these are false equivalences. A woman being a stay at home mom is a decision that family made for themselves, all households have different dynamics and structures. It’s not a case of immaturity vs maturity. If it makes more financial sense for her to stay home, they’re making a choice that works for them. I find sexual humor to be annoying and childish because in my experience the people who rely on it the most are childish. I used to be friends with a guy like that and I couldn’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:20 AM
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But it goes hand in hand. Money is power, in a capitalist country a person with no power would never be able to disadvantage a powerful person. I’m not saying all men are rich but people do usually protect the interests of the group they belong to. So if all the powerful people are men, they will protect men because it ultimately benefits them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:48 AM
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I don’t think all men have a privileged life, but I since most powerful people in the country and in the world are men it doesn’t really align with the idea of them being at a disadvantage. I feel like men’s issues would be heard more often if they would be talked about separately from women’s issues. Any time I hear about men’s issue it’s ALWAYS in conversations people are having about other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:23 AM
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Then vet better
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:22 PM
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You can sue for defamation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:33 PM
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Well i don’t describe it that way but I also don’t see why it matters considering they are a very small minority
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:32 PM
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It’s not the same because humans would continue to have kids even without marriage. The only way men would protest and stop having kids is if they stopped having sex with women. Or got a vasectomy but most aren’t doing that. All that will happen is that the single mother rate would get higher, and men will still end up in family court.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:26 PM
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We’re so stupid but somehow we’ve managed to oppress men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:22 PM
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That’s not how HVW are described tho, it sounds like you want everyone to live their life according to the 10% of “HVM”. That’s such a small percentage of the world, it’s odd that people speak as if that lifestyle is tangible for most anyways. If no one in your life is “high value” and they’re all average, why aren’t we doing things according to the majority?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:21 PM
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It’s definitely age dependent. A lot of people don’t know what they want in their early-mid 20s, but once you get to late 20s and above people don’t have that same level of grace. People want to start seeing results
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:13 PM
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How are we supposed to hold them accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:04 PM
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Well according to police crime stats most of them are legitimate. So that’s what I’m going based on. If false allegations are such a problem then protest for harsher sentencing. What else could anyone do other than prosecute the people proven to be liars? If you can think of a better solution then be my guest
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:58 PM
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But that’s not actually talking about the real issues. It makes the whole focus about feminist and even if people do get mad who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:27 PM
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Then that’s the first thing that should be addressed. Start a movement that registers men to vote the same way they do for young people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:24 PM
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Then men can hand themselves the very same thing, considering most politicians are men. It’s not like women could realistically stop them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:21 PM
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Most family court issues come from having kids not marriage. I know alimony is a huge talking point but I know a decent amount of divorcees and none of them got alimony. It wasn’t even a question during the process
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:20 PM
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Men could band together, the issue comes in when the convo blames women for everything instead of focusing on an actual issue. It’s the framing that’s the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:18 PM
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Most SA allegations are legitimate, there’s technically no way to completely stop them because people lie and abuse the courts for everything. The most you could do is create false allegations laws but those already exist, you can get charged with filing a false police report
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:16 PM
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I think these issues can still be advocated for, just not in a “man vs woman” context. I dont think anyone would be against more help for poor people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:12 PM
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How kids do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:07 PM
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What is “women’s emancipation”? I’m assuming it just means women’s rights. But those have changed throughout history and depending on the country/culture. From my understanding of history, in the US marriage has always been a choice. Of course women needed a husband to survive as far as money but marriage itself was still a choice. You would need to force women to get pregnant, to bring up the birth rate. That has never been a thing in most countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:04 PM
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The easiest solution is to stay single, you don’t have to wait for the world to change or anything like that. It’s completely in your hands whether or not you are in a relationship with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:59 PM
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I think men’s shelters do exist, some used to be unisex but that stopped because women and children were being SA’d. There could definitely be more of them if people advocated for them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:55 PM
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I think potential is important to consider but I see why women can be hesitant. It’s a lot of variables in each situation, it requires predicting the future to some extent. We all are at different stages of our life, some people want a partner who’s their equal in that sense. They could already have a career and big savings account so they want soneone who can match that. On the other hand i wouldn’t pass up someone I genuinely believed was on the right track and has made significant progress
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 08:40 PM
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lol @ “likes sex”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:36 PM
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Ok this is kinda irrelevant to the question but her dad is a idiot. I hate that the world has lied on young women and now every man thinks we are obsessed with them, especially men who are grandpa age (50+). None of my peers talk about wanting an old man, the most they might want is to get a couple dollars out of them. Or have them as a connection if they need money in the future. But I wouldn’t consider that something to brag about. Anyone can pay for people to be around them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 11:37 AM
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what do you mean by non-physical displays of affection?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:44 PM
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yeah my male friends complain about their girlfriends picking fights over same things. I think some people just like drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:43 PM
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I can get onboard with that. I feel like that’s what everyone wants, but it’s kinda hard to find that for me atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:39 PM
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I don’t see anything red pill about that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:35 PM
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I mean what qualities do you think the majority of men find desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:35 PM
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That sounds nice. I don’t think I ever spent an entire weekend with a boyfriend before, mainly because I always end up in long distance relationships were we barely see each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:34 PM
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I agree, but I think it matters how short you are. 5’8 is still taller than most women, most women can’t tell. If I guy is noticeably taller than me I assume he’s 6’
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:35 PM
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The reality is people can do what they want. You can have all those standards that you listed and no one could stop you. Women get shamed for a lot of things but it’s up to me if I care enough to let it change my behavior. Standards are really just fairy tales most of the time, because you have to be on the same level as the person you want (at least in most situations). I think it’s stupid for anyone to expect a perfect person. The simplest example, is that a health-conscious person typically w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:19 PM
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If they live together then you wouldn’t need to be out on child support because he’s already supporting them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:13 PM
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I mean a lot of men are upset so that’s why I say “yall”. What do men want from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:27 PM
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So how would we make that equal? I don’t see how we can stop women from dating who they want. If it’s two consensual adults having sex, there’s no real justification against it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:06 PM
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Then why are yall upset?, this is the part that confuses women. One second we’re being told men are the choosers and have endless options, then the next they’re complaining about women. Those two things can’t both exist. Men need to decide if they’re the overlords of the universe or victims
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:15 PM
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I’m confused, so men built society but it’s women’s fault? What you’re saying is contradictory. It’s altruistic for a father to marry his daughter off for financial gain but it’s bad for women to date for financial gain. If they’re in a famine why would it be wrong for the women to flock to the person with the most resources? Also men purposely got multiple wives, the women weren’t forcing themselves into their homes. What natural abilities are men not taking advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:12 PM
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My point is it wasn’t just for love and kindness, because if it was they would’ve prioritized compatibility. If my dad sold me off for $100, I wouldn’t say it was an altruistic act. He did so because someone paid him and the money looked good. So this doesn’t help your argument that men are morally superior and built society to help women. The opposite is true, even in polygamous societies the richer men got more wives. Poor men still weren’t entitled to women even back then. Good luck to men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:57 PM
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Having a very connected social life and friends to hang out with makes being alone less bad. From what I hear men have a harder time making friends in adulthood. So that’s a big factor. It’s relatively easy to make friends as a woman if you put yourself out there. Ex: women have more social clubs. When I was looking for running groups they were all women. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a male dominated group like that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:46 PM
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I would consider dating 6-9 to be prioritizing looks. That means all they look better than the average woman. I don’t know any man who could pull close to perfect women, which I consider 8-10s to be, but willingly pick a significantly less attractive woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:35 PM
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You don’t know the history of marriage. It wasn’t originally established for “love” or romance. It was a wealth building tool. Men were not marrying their daughters off to strangers because they loved them. It was a mutually beneficial agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:31 PM
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The same thing can be said for women. Hot women have an easier time dating than ugly women. It’s an advantage that will never go away because why would you pick an ugly chick if you found a hot chick with the same personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:25 PM
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The custody belongs to the person the kid is living in being that it is impossible for a man to physically care for a fetus. The mother would be the one financially responsible, when she goes to give birth her name is going to be on bill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:19 PM
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I get what you’re saying but you can’t find a single stats that shows women are equally as aggressive and violent as men. I agree that women can be just as toxic and not good people to be around. Look at the mass shooters in the US, why aren’t more women committing these crimes? When we have equal access to firearms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:17 PM
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That is how it works, people don’t pay child support to each other. The person with primary custody receives the child support from the other parent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:07 PM
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I get what you’re saying but it kinda defeats the purpose of casual dating. Dating is basically a hobby to some women, it’s a source of enjoyment so they’re not thinking that deep. There’s no way to force someone to date who they don’t find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:55 PM
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Finances is important to me because I’m very aware of the fact that when you’re poor, you will have a very stressful life. I’m not talking about rich but they need to be able to maintain the lifestyle I grew up in. Having a nice house in a good suburban neighborhood. It’s also a cultural thing, I can’t bring home a man that can’t take care of our future kids. As far as looks I’m not that picky, I find myself attracted to the average in-shape man. The only physical traits I can’t deal with is obe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:52 PM
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Exactly, a sorority girl at her prime isn’t necessarily dating for character. It’s just a good time. The same way young men aren’t. They’re not even thinking about settling down
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:32 PM
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Then that’s just life. You can only date who’s attracted to you. But I don’t see the problem with being superficial in this context. We’re talking about very young people who are immature and not ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:27 PM
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I’m not saying it should be this way but I understand it. Both men and women can be toxic especially in family dynamics. And if a woman was constantly angry I would question that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:23 PM
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I’m not justifying any specific instance, but in general male aggression is far more dangerous. If I was in a store and a woman was having a mental breakdown I wouldn’t fear for my life. I would think something was wrong with her and mind my business. If a saw a man doing it, I would wonder if he had a weapon and get as far away from it as possible. I think a lot of that comes from the fact the aftermath of male vs female anger is different. But I child is completely different, both men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:09 PM
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Men are probably not going for the most attractive women because of fear of rejection. But if they didn’t have that fear they would do the same. Hookups are only valued for their looks most of the time and sometimes their fun personality. It’s a inherently superficial relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:02 PM
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But if you’re charged with neglect then your kids are still being taken away from you once you’re in jail. And I don’t think most men really want full custody anyway. At most they want to be able to see them on birthdays and holidays
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:59 PM
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Yeah, if that’s not what they’re attracted to. If I’m dating purely for a good time, I’m going for the most attractive person in the room. It’s the same way people treat hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:49 PM
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Nothing I said is about seeing the average man. If someone is dating for fun, they don’t care about “average” because it’s not serious. When people take dating more seriously then they can about being realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:47 PM
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I’m 24, but that’s close enough to 25. (No kids). The only thing that’s changed is that im willingly to date slightly older. In my early twenties the oldest I would go is late twenties. Now that I’m 24, I will go up to early thirties. I’ve always been someone that dated intentionally so there’s not much of a change now. But I’m graduating college soon and going into the legal field, so I’m betting on that to be my saving grace when it comes to men. Once I start working and socializing with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:41 PM
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College guys do the same thing. A lot of people are only dating for fun during college, so they’d rather date super hot guys than average guys. Not all college aged women are superficial but most aren’t looking for at husband at 20. If they happen to find one great, but they’re not deliberately chasing “ready to settle down” type of men. The same way a 20 year old man isn’t looking for a wife. I’m 24 (barely considered college aged anymore) and most guys I meet are still not serious, unless I sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:26 PM
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I don’t think most people ghost because of safety, they’re usually just not interested. Safety for women is a completely separate issue. Also it’s way more than 2%, more than half of women will be SA’d in their lifetime. So it’s definitely not only 2% of men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:19 PM
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Eh same thing. Most men see rejection as disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:20 AM
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That’s true, going out with large groups makes it less likely to get approached and most women are scared to go out alone. So they’re really not giving anyone the chance. I just don’t get why people think gyms are dating spots tho. The only stories I hear of women getting approached there are by creepy guys that basically only go to the gym to watch women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:12 AM
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No one is trying to approach women at the gym, so if that’s the only reason she’s going it’s a waste of time. If you want to get approached go to the bar alone. There hasn’t been a single time I’ve done this and didn’t get approached. Outside of the bar, I wouldn’t bet on it happening. There’s multiple reasons for it. Mainly that men these days lack social skills and most of them are terrified of being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:43 AM
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But why even bother with a good girl? You can have a nice life with a bad girl and not get bored. Or just stay single and casually date around. I just can’t wrap my head around it, it’s lowkey evil that some men insist on getting a good girl and wasting her time. When they can do all the same things with their equal, a woman just as promiscuous as them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:12 AM
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Yeah, I would never argue against people not creating children with randoms
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 12:17 AM
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I mean if your child is born, and you demand a paternity test before you care about whether your partner is okay. That’s prioritizing your feelings. I don’t see why those emotions should even be coming that soon. Which goes back to my original comment, that I would agree to the paternity test then be telling him to pack his bags. It’s not even just the test, it’s the whole situation. Its sickening to imagine the amount of audacity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:56 PM
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Good. Hopefully everywhere followsuit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:47 PM
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Punishment for who? It’s not a punishment to take care of a child that’s yours
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:46 PM
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I’m not aganist paternity test in general, I just think it’s a dick move to prioritize your feels over your partners health. But a lot of men secretly hate their girlfriends and wives, so I can see why empathy isn’t shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:44 PM
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I think men are more consistent, they will treat both the good girls and bad girls like trash. Being a good girl doesn’t really workout for women either, because even if he settles down with you he will probably still cheat with the bad girl. So really you don’t “win”. Good girls get a title, but no more loyalty and respect than any one else
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:52 PM
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A unborn child is seen as a separate entity in some states now. So prenatal care is care for the baby, you can’t take care of a fetus but say you don’t want to take care of the mother. It goes hand in hand. If the mom has complications the baby is more likely to die than her. There aren’t many conditions that only affect the mom
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:45 PM
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Yes it is consistent with pro-life laws, which is why it’s been proposed in pro-life states. That’s why I support it. I don’t mean throw people in jail for not making enough, it goes my percentage of the paycheck. If they make less, then pay less.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:38 PM
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Well infertility isn’t fraud because it can resolve spontaneously, most infertile women aren’t completely unable it’s just a small chance of happening. So I would consider that taking a chance still. As far as lying about protection, both parties can buy a condoms. You don’t have to rely on a woman to get those
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 06:05 PM
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You’re right, the mother could just choose not to go to any appointments but then she couldn’t get child support because there would be no documentation of the pregnancy. So you can’t do fraud if you never filed to receive the money in the first place. The only thing I could think of is if you when to the obgyn got the test, then had a miscarriage later but never received any type of medical attention. Which is possible, but eventually the father would be expecting a child to be born. If that ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:59 PM
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So how is this your argument against it? It should be fair if it is also passed by the voters
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:47 PM
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If they take the paternity test then fraud wouldn’t be the issue. It would come down to taking care of a baby that was proven to be yours
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:46 PM
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Then wouldn’t it be women support this law too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:43 PM
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It’s a new case, that will happen more often in states with abortion bans. They might not prosecute everyone but their would have to be an investigation into marriages unless it happens in a hospital then maybe they’re safe in that case. This is a preview, for what’s to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:42 PM
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Why is abortion being banned? To “protect” to the unborn child. Unless I’m missing something. Is providing medical care not protection? That’s the point of the entire pro-life argument so it’s very well relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:40 PM
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But isn’t hypergamy natural, according to red pill. So why be angry?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:37 PM
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The father because the mother is already finically responsible being that she’s the one going to the appointment. All the medical bills are in her name. The child support would be helping out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:36 PM
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The test can be done at 7 weeks, get it done and find out. Most people don’t know they’re pregnant until 6 weeks. The only women who know they are pregnant very early are the ones actually trying to get pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:30 PM
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We already infringe on that too, https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/01/prosecutions-drugs-miscarriages-meth-stillbirths/ There’s no way to stop someone while they’re doing it but you could throw them in prison after the fact. So there’s already steps being taken to hold the mother accountable for being healthy. But prenatal care isn’t free in this country, so why wouldn’t we make the other parent help?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:27 PM
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https://jezebel.com/ohio-woman-faces-abuse-of-a-corpse-charge-for-miscarr-1851075340
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:24 PM
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Well that’s the risk we take with unprotected sex. I prefer for people to figure out their family dynamics on their own but if the government is involved then it’s only fair to keep it consistent across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:21 PM
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No, the person who took the paternity test. If she had an early miscarriage before the test was done, then she wouldn’t be able to get it. And she wouldn’t need it anyway because the pregnancy is over
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:19 PM
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The men already have a say in red states, even rapist have rights to their kids. Men could have input into which medical procedures, if they actually went to the appointments. Men don’t care about which medication you take, or other less significant issues that come up. As long as they can control whether you get an abortion or not, they’re satisfied. They already have this right in red states. Fraud after miscarriage is very easily avoided, once it’s medically documented send a copy to the fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:17 PM
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Because at the end of the day all the laws that are being passed now isn’t because women want them. Women want alot of laws passed. Going by the messaging, it’s to protect the baby. So why would you want to stop at abortion? Why not protect the baby and care for them from conception. It’s time for accountability on both sides, if a woman becomes a mother the moment the egg is fertilized, the man also becomes a father at this point. I’m failing to see the issue with this. Where is the injustice i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:11 PM
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But according to a lot of people, the unborn child is a separate entity. So taking care of the pregnancy is not taking care of the mother because it’s not her body anymore. Any medical stuff related to the baby, is the right of the fetus
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:06 PM
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No, the pregnancy wasn’t successful but it was still his responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:04 PM
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Most of the politicians creating, enforcing, and signing anti-abortion legislation into law are men. The ones who will rule of them (the judges) will be men. And the ones prosecuting women who get abortions and have miscarriages will be men. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2023/jun/22/abortion-ban-politicians-who-voted-for-restrictions-who-are-they-men-women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:01 PM
5

Because if you did option 1, there would be no fraud because it would be found out before the child support started.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:53 PM
3

Yeah probably not, but as long as it passes in the red states it would help the people who need it most. Even rapist have rights to their kids in red states so pregnant women aren’t losing anything by getting financial support
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:52 PM
1

And in that case, if the mom is unhealthy and has a miscarriage as a result. Both parents should be investigated and not just the mother. Refusal to financially support a pregnancy should result in negligence charges to the father, since the mother will be charged with manslaughter
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:49 PM
1

It depends on the medical condition. Some are fetal to the baby specifically, so not treating it would be a problem. If the mom is dying in the majority of cases the baby dies as well unless she’s far enough along to do an emergency c-section
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:45 PM
2

There are already strict abortion laws in red states. Most are moving to outlaw abortion anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:42 PM
3

I’m not usually for government mandates in most cases. But I see why these laws are starting to be proposed. If we want to police pregnancy, we can’t draw the line where it’s convenient. We can make having a baby a community project and have mandates from start to finish. Because who are we to tell people what medical treatments they can have, overrule doctors recommendations and then offer no support. Men have decided to become every woman’s doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:35 PM
3

But it’s the parents responsibility, I could see the state paying if they’re low income or something. But we make pregnant women foot the bill for everything else so I don’t see why splitting the cost of a paternity test would be a big deal. Each person would need to come up with about $200
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:26 PM
10

Prenatal child support isn’t enforced because the law hasn’t passed yet. But regular child support is enforced, it wouldn’t be that hard to add to system that already exist
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:22 PM
3

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/warren-news/trumbull-county-grand-jury-to-hear-abuse-of-corpse-case/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:21 PM
2

The states hand is already in family dynamics and sex, I wouldn’t want it to be this way but a large portion of the country votes in favor of legislating women’s bodies. So it’s a follow up to that. Because if we are having women petition the Supreme Court to get medical treatment during pregnancy then someone has to financially support that. It cost money to miss work to attend court dates and pay for lawyers. I would be saving the child support money just in case I have a miscarriage and need …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:13 PM
5

Babies need medical care at conception. That’s what prenatal apportionments are for. The cost is relatively low if you have a healthy pregnancy with no complications but not if you need extra testing or medication. And people do buy things for the baby before they’re born
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:04 PM
5

Why would the state have to fund it? Two adults had consensual sex so it’s both of their responsibility to come up with the money for the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:02 PM
1

I think the swipe rate is low because of low effort profiles, women get too many matches to give every single man a chance. So depending on what he writes he could be getting passed up even if he’s a good guy. We do have to make quick judgments
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:55 PM
7

Yeah universal healthcare will probably never happen because there’s no one to paint as the villain. Abortion is an easy issue to push because we have to micromanage the “evil” pregnant women who are trying to get rid of their babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:46 PM
30

I agree, but as a country we decided that our energy is better well spent chasing after pregnant women so now laws have to be made to support those decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:38 PM
17

It comes directly out of their pay check like a tax. If they don’t pay it then you can be arrested, or some states have it where your drivers license gets suspended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:33 PM
18

It wouldn’t be the state paying, child support comes from the parents wages
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:26 PM
2

The funds would go into a medical fund. It’s not like we have socialized healthcare in the USA. There’s a lot of pregnancy expenses. On average is cost $18,865 for natural birth (no c-section). And that’s not including any medical test or medication you could get put on during the pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:50 PM
4

I’ve never heard of child birth expenses being argued in court. This is more of a protection for children who parents aren’t together. If they’re together than it’s not an issue because both parties are taking responsibility. A lot of women don’t have access to proper medical care, so if there was mandatory insurance they would. It’s completely relevant if all of this is for the wellbeing of the child
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:43 PM
3

It’s not the same. I don’t think that men realize giving birth isn’t easy, it’s actually traumatic in a lot of cases. “According to the National Institutes of Health, up to 45% of new mothers experience birth trauma”. And that doesn’t even include women who have c-sections, which is a major surgery, post postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. After being in the most dangerous health-related experience most of us will ever go through, we need to stop everything and do a paternity test so…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:58 PM
7

No but even if I did have a dream like that I wouldn’t accuse him of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:06 AM
5

I also think child support should start at conception, it’s for the well being of the child that they get proper medical care. Put both of the parents name on the insurance whether they’re together or not. And if paternity test are mandatory then we could find out if he’s not the father soon after birth, and I guess he could sue if wants to if the baby isn’t his.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:00 AM
2

I don’t know anyone who’s just mean to their partner for no reason. I think everyone should be friendly in a relationship but it can also be manipulative to ask for that 24/7. Because women are still human. We can’t be only happy, never disagree, and always smile. We still have our own wants and opinions. And sometimes people can just be telling you want you need to hear and it’s not always pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:54 AM
1

I don’t think anything is inherently wrong with that but women being the breadwinner alot of times creates resentment. Because some men still want to be the boss of women but that doesn’t work if the woman is making more money. Even though finances are different these days people still want the same relationship dynamics. it’s a contradiction and impractical in many ways. The idea of having a family loses all appeal if women have to take on even more responsibility. We’ would be “married single …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:36 AM
2

I find men have an interesting definition of friendly in relation to women. Friendly usually means don’t disagree, never confront you on your issues and put up with however you treat us with a smile
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:11 AM
2

What is feminine and what is friendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 04:09 AM
8

I don’t shame anyone who doesn’t want to date single parents, it’s extra drama because you have to deal with the other parent. I think people are just sensitive about the topic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:46 AM
7

It doesn’t mean that, but she’s talking about the people who specifically state that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:34 AM
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Well most people date within a 5-year range so that’s data. Huge age gaps are the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:04 AM
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You don’t understand how many times I have to explain to men that’s most women my age don’t want someone in their 40s+, then they mansplain how we are all supposedly biologically attracted to them. Now I’m not saying there’s no attractive older men, i find a lot of them attractive but the baggage is REAL. Once you get into the 40s age range, he will most likely be a divorcee and have kids. Thats a deal breaker for me. I want to start a family with someone who doesn’t already have one. And you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:48 AM
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Yeah that’s why I would take the test if he asked. So there’s no question whose child it is in the future. But imo asking without a reason is just a quick and easy way to cause a rift in your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:33 AM
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I guess it’s a gamble I’m willing to take. Because I can’t see myself willingly singing up for a life of poverty without at least trying first. Money isn’t the only thing that matters though, it’s more important what the man’s attitude is. Poor and no ambition is a bad combo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:30 AM
13

I don’t think so. If I random accused my boyfriend of cheating without any real suspicion or evidence I’m sure he would be frustrated with me too
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:15 AM
35

I support it, it wouldn’t hurt anyone for this to be in place. But if I’m being honest, if a man asked for a paternity test I would agree but we wouldn’t be together after it. If I just gave birth and his first instinct is to accuse me of cheating, he can go find some other woman who he can trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:01 AM
-1

But women don’t date based on attraction. I can agree that just sexual attraction alone men are more open to anyone. But actually being in a relationship, looks aren’t number one priority for me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:50 AM
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That’s not true at all. Ex, women don’t care or talk about men having flat stomachs, it’s not seen as a particularly sough after trait in men. But I’ve seen plenty of men say they like flat stomachs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:45 AM
0

Wages are low for most jobs because a lot of people don’t have education. But if someone moved here in a field that generally pays well everywhere like medical field they would be well off. But yeah if you look at someone who’s actually from here then they probably don’t make much
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:33 AM
1

Then we have different ideas of what high value is. Being a high value man is so much more than looks. It’s more of a lifestyle and finances thing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:24 AM
1

The basis I use is what’s in their profile. I read all the demographics info because I use free version of the apps and they only filter a few categories. And I go off vibes
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:20 AM
0

I don’t date purely based on attraction, I actually don’t swipe on overly attractive gym-bodied men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:16 AM
1

Houses where I live are $150-200k so I think it’s obtainable for the age group I date
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:15 AM
3

Because most people making minimum wage can’t afford their bills
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:02 AM
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I wouldn’t have kids with someone who couldn’t afford to fed them. Yall can shame me all day, that’s not changing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:00 AM
0

If those stats are true the women in my family must be super lucky. None of them are married to financially struggling men. So I’m sure that affects how I see things. If you’re surrounded by people who are doing something seen as “impossible” then it doesn’t seem impossible to you. I just don’t see how they all managed to find %3 of the population. Well to be fair a few of their husbands are fat and not super tall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:58 AM
-1

I don’t really compliment men because the ones I’m around dont put much effort into their appearance. But when I say how we’re expected to behave I mean like what we have to tolerate in the relationship. A lot of non-empathic men who expect us to dive head first into domestic labor. I’ve dated people who wanted me to clean their house. And then the cheating is a whole different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:48 AM
-1

I know alot of people who make $60k, but they all went to school or got trades. There’s some many ways to make it to that salary, I don’t understand why people don’t try
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:40 AM
4

I mean not in the same position they were at 18. Whether it be college, trade school, starting a business ect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:32 AM
0

Mildly successful to me means has a career that can pay their bills easily. Someone who owns a house is an example. It’s more to do with life choices. I don’t want someone sitting on a minimum wage job and not doing anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:28 AM
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I don’t think swipe data is a good measure. Alot of men swipe on any woman just to get more matches and most women only swipe on actual potential. And we tend to look at profiles more not just the picture. Ex: if he doesn’t have a bio, I’m not matching with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:20 AM
0

Cost of living is important too. Where my family is from men take care of their families, they are better off than American men in that regard. So it’s more to the story than median income of a country. It’s easier to find a pretty nice girl when you treat her like a princess then it is if you expect her to go into the work force and be a domestic goddess. Your comment doesn’t take into account the differences between men and women. Women have to care about money because we aren’t sacrificing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:11 AM
1

In some ways. I think women have higher standards based on money and lifestyle but men also have unrealistic expectations. in my experience the difference comes in once we start dating, the expectations we’re held to is a lot. As far as how we’re expected to behave
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:02 AM
1

But pretty is above average. At least that’s how I use the word. So wanting someone pretty is also unrealistic because you want someone better than average. Or better yet its unrealistic if you’re not good looking too because at that point you’re reaching above your league
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:56 PM
0

It’s hard to put a number on it because cost of living changes depending on where you live. Where I’m at a single person could have a comfortable life making 60k, a family of would need about $100k
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:49 PM
4

That sounds like your coworkers didn’t like how he looked physically. People are superficial so I can’t blame them entirely, people want to be with someone they’re sexually attracted to. When I say mildly successful I mean have a career and have some type of accomplishment under their belt. I’m dating 25-35 year olds so Im hoping to see that they’ve done something. I can’t bring home a man that’s not a productive member of society to my family
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:42 PM
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Men can have high standards too, if you compare what they’re looking for to what they offer. Even saying you want a “pretty” girl could be unrealistic considering beauty is subjective. Depending on how good looking is considered “pretty” to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:33 PM
3

I guess I’m wondering what the alternative is. It sounds like a set up to end up in a life that you hate. I do think having high standards makes it harder to find someone. But I don’t think getting into a relationship with someone you’re not attracted to, and can’t raise a family with (if that’s the goal) will end in a positive way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:25 PM
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