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-5

Wow women can’t even bend over anymore without men thinking it has something to do with them. Smh women really live in your head rent free don’t they?
/r/seduction28/08/24 06:56 PM
2

Men like this think that just because they have an incest kink that everyone does.
/r/seduction19/05/22 05:02 PM
5

I like how when men do shit like this it’s “playful banter” but when women to it “shit testing”
/r/seduction19/05/22 03:47 PM
0

Bro you think way too much of yourself and way over analyze shit
/r/seduction15/05/22 07:52 PM
5

Sure it is. Just don’t let people walk over you. Don’t be nice for the sake of getting what you want. You can be a decent human being and still have your own opinions and boundaries and self confidence
/r/seduction10/05/22 12:55 PM
1

There’s a difference between being fit and in shape and being shredded/pumped.
/r/seduction10/05/22 12:54 PM
2

Because men like to see sex as a game with a winner and a loser
/r/seduction30/04/22 05:26 PM
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You are cheating. Period. End of story. Don’t be a cheater
/r/seduction29/04/22 03:39 PM
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Lmao wearing a wire. This isn’t the CIA. What they’re going to send in undercover cops? Is that before or after they’re arrested? You’re starting to stray into pedantic territory so I’m going to rephrase for you again: I think you understand the premise of my disagreement. We punish people for the crime they committed, not for the crime they accused others of
/r/seduction08/04/22 05:08 PM
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You still can in many jurisdictions. That's beside the point; malicious prosecution isn't specific to murder, and already exists as a tort. I'm suggesting that it be elevated from tort to crime in extreme cases (which you agreed with, mind you). But there would be no way for the prosecution to prove that you accused them with the intent of having them killed. It’s impossible to KNOW the outcome of a trial without having the judge in your pocket. I agree with accusing anyone of any crime falsely …
/r/seduction08/04/22 04:20 PM
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No one but the lawyers, jury and judges have control over the punishment. You can’t accuse someone of murder and expect them to get the death penalty. Especially in the US. Also, attempted murder once again receives a different sentence than actual murder. Okay and? Okay and?
/r/seduction08/04/22 04:01 PM
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My take: it should be a crime to knowingly and maliciously make a false legal accusation of any crime (rape or otherwise), I agree. I never said they shouldn’t be held accountable. and the punishment should be equivalent to that which the victim had been facing. This is where you lose me. They committed an entirely different crime so the punishment should be different. If someone accused another of murder and that person was facing lethal injection, I would have the same disagreement and say no …
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:59 PM
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Im not upset. Not sure why you think so. I disagree with his premise that accusing someone of a crime justifies the same punishment as the crime. If you can’t handle that maybe you shouldn’t be on the internet
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:43 PM
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😘
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:37 AM
-1

More elipses… can’t prove Jack shit can you… male solidarity huh?
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:34 AM
-5

You do it. You seem so sure about yourself and how false accusations should be handled. Someone who falsely accused another of a crime is not a violent crime. Rape is a violent crime. They are in no way comparable so in no way should receive the same sentence
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:31 AM
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/inappropriately-light-sentences-sexual-assault-cases-hurt-reporting/story?id=59748226 Im sure these women are very comforted that you think they’re the exception. Adding ellipses after everything you say doesn’t make you any more right
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:20 AM
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Cant handle the truth huh? Did you miss the part where he was released after 3 months? Is your sense of justice wronged?
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:11 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner So like 6 months
/r/seduction08/04/22 02:03 AM
17

By this logic you should also be giving married people your number because sometimes marriages don’t really go through
/r/seduction05/04/22 04:09 PM
1

Because animals dont live in fairy tale. We are animals. If we’re following animal mating instincts why aren’t we follow animal emotions while mating? Nature does not decide, we evolved in millions of years like this. I’m using evolution and nature as the same thing. Evolution for some random reason in your mind decided to make humans non monogamous but also allows them to be hurt by non monogamous. How does that make sense? Only if you think you are special, then you feel pain from cheating. No…
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:48 PM
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They don’t to animals. I thought we were falling back on animal instinct here. Why are humans running around being traumatized by real life, when animals are chilling kill and eating each other? You’re saying it’s not possible that when nature decided to make humans feels physical and emotional pain from being cheated on, it couldn’t just as easily change human mating instincts? I would argue that a high value man who won’t stay and raise the child he saddled a woman with is not high value. A ve…
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:36 PM
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I never said humans were. Non monogamous animals don’t give a shit who they mate with or who their last sexual partner mates with. If we are defending cheating on the grounds that non monogamous male animals do it with zero consequences, I would like to also see men fight to the death for women’s approval.
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:54 PM
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It’s interesting how evolution decided to cause massive trauma for supposedly following the right instincts. I also thought that the point of finding a “high value” male was that he was Uber strong and rich so he could protect womens and use his resources to raise the kid. Why would a woman cheat with a man she has zero hope will stick around for the kid? In terms of best survival for the kid, that makes no sense then
/r/seduction30/03/22 01:42 PM
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That’s just not true for humans. Being cheated on does cause massive emotional and psychological damage. Monogamous animals don’t cheat and non monogamous animals don’t care. People rarely cheat for the purposes of having children.
/r/seduction30/03/22 12:46 PM
1

Some people use hey girl like hey guys.
/r/seduction25/03/22 06:59 PM
1

Why are you basing this on what YOU think she wants? If you’re already having to rekindle anything, you need to actually talk to someone not low key think something into existence
/r/seduction27/02/22 03:58 AM
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How is women being attracted to one man and not all men fickle? Your confession doesn’t make her like you if she doesn’t like you.
/r/seduction15/02/22 06:49 PM
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Make it crystal clear to her that you don’t want to be in a relationship with her even if you have sex, but that you’re willing to hook up and show her the patience and respect someone who’s never had sex before needs.
/r/seduction15/02/22 06:39 PM
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OP isn’t 42. You told him to tell her he is 42 while doing idiotic movie poses with ancient movie references. Maybe I misunderstood that you were using yourself as a reference not telling OP to tell people he’s 42. But thanks for being a total condescending prick about it. It’s fun when you can correctly peg people from the jump
/r/seduction13/02/22 05:00 PM
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Dude your advice was to lie and side step the question like you have something to hide
/r/seduction13/02/22 01:45 PM
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Some men are just selfish in bed. I think porn has a lot to do with it where all you ever see is women being used.
/r/seduction11/02/22 05:07 AM
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That’s comparing apples to oranges. It would be like if she blew him and then expected a million dollars. A more apt comparison would be if he paid for the first date and expected her to pay for the second date
/r/seduction11/02/22 05:04 AM
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He’s out of her league didn’t you hear? That means automatically all she’s worth is to do whatever he wants. Smh why would he reciprocate if he’s OUT OF HER LEAGUE. She should be grateful he graced her with his presence
/r/seduction10/02/22 08:55 PM
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Ho ho!
/r/seduction06/02/22 02:34 AM
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That only works on people who have no concept of self worth
/r/seduction06/02/22 01:58 AM
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From the way you described it, I thought she was shooting them. But yeah 4-5 drinks in 4 hours isn’t much at all
/r/seduction05/02/22 03:59 PM
1

Ahh so you guys were getting plastered
/r/seduction05/02/22 02:20 PM
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Y’all acting like women are an AI. Lmao “reading between the lines” “sub communication” how about “she just didn’t like him as much as he liked her” how about while he was reading between the lines thinking the date was going great, she was wondering why it had to last 3 to 4 hours! For a first date.
/r/seduction05/02/22 04:36 AM
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You’re welcome
/r/seduction29/01/22 06:14 AM
1

So instead of deciding that maybe you’re the problem and looking internally, you’ve decided that the solution is everyone else’s fault and you need to make people attracted to you by ripping down their self confidence and manipulating them? Don’t we owe other people a bit of human decency?
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:58 AM
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I hope you’re as inept at negging then. Keep hugging trees man
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:37 AM
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Reverse psychology only works when you haven’t already strongly asserted you believe the opposite and are okay with doing anything as long as you get what you want.
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:35 AM
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According to that logic, I could kill my neighbor because he has something I want. If you can’t gain someone’s interest except by tearing them down and preying on their insecurities, I’m not sure how impressive that is beyond finding enough gullible impressionable people to do it on
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:23 AM
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Negging people is classless
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:09 AM
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I’M weird?
/r/seduction29/01/22 05:02 AM
1

Shut up and hop on my dick 😘 you’re making everyone depressed with your inability to enjoy being picked on
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:51 AM
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Big tough bully calling people stupid because he doesn’t agree with them. Real attractive. I can tell why women are falling all over you. Keep it classy sunshine
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:43 AM
0

Lmao bro you’re the one that started getting petty. I thought you liked being teased? Suck it up buttercup and stop picking on people or insulting people and then getting all offended when they don’t lay down and die for you
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:40 AM
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Bruh… you like literally repeated what I said. Picking on someone and “playfully teasing” them are not anywhere near the same. You must have been a high school bully who never outgrew being petty
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:28 AM
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It doesn’t matter. Picking on someone is childish and annoying. It’s like when boys in the fifth grade like a girl and show it by yanking on her hair. It’s not cute. If you mean playful mutual teasing, that’s a whole other conversation
/r/seduction29/01/22 04:04 AM
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Picking on someone is some thing children do. Don’t be a negger
/r/seduction29/01/22 01:15 AM
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Calm down sparky. You’re just making yourself look like an out of control basket case
/r/seduction14/10/21 02:27 AM
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Why are you following them around harassing them on every comment they make? Like let it go
/r/seduction14/10/21 02:22 AM
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Do you seriously shout at girls that you’re approaching? Like I can see why that would make them feel threatened.
/r/seduction10/10/21 11:41 PM
2

Lmao bro… seriously the reason they hate you is because you’re too much of a good friend?
/r/seduction09/10/21 10:03 PM
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She dodged a bullet
/r/seduction04/10/21 03:15 PM
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That’s not true. Look at any species in the animal kingdom. The males fight and kill each other to be see by the females as the most worthy. Female animals rarely fight unless it is to protect themselves or their offspring
/r/seduction30/09/21 05:57 PM
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No does not mean wait two weeks and try again. That’s a dangerous mindset to espouse
/r/seduction26/09/21 07:35 PM
2

If OP didn’t outright say he turned down sex because he was playing mind games, then we could have this conversation
/r/seduction26/09/21 05:29 PM
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I disagree. Telling men all they need to do is be confident and they’ll be pulling like there’s no tomorrow is just setting guys up for disappointment and failure. I would never say confidence is “much more important” than looks. It takes her a split second to tell if you’re attractive to her and if she’s open to you making a move. The looks get you in the door and the confidence keeps you there. If the door never opens, you can have the confidence of a guy wrestling a grizzly but she ain’t seei…
/r/seduction26/09/21 03:12 PM
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I guess in a certain context where your looks are borderline aceptable your confidence might make a difference, but beyond that your looks are what get your foot in the door. It’s more like it’s not important what you say but who’s saying it
/r/seduction26/09/21 02:26 PM
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It’s it the same with you? Why are you surprised?
/r/seduction26/09/21 03:44 AM
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Or learn how to separate art and entertainment from real life
/r/seduction25/09/21 06:09 PM
4

Why do you think that showing romantic interest would change what bucket you end up in?
/r/seduction23/09/21 05:40 AM
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Well aren’t you judgemental
/r/seduction23/09/21 04:35 AM
-1

Incel ideology is going to help how?
/r/seduction21/09/21 02:30 PM
1

Lol why do you have to take it to such extremes? This sounds like the opening line of a lovebomb seminar.
/r/seduction18/09/21 03:40 AM
4

That’s not true. You’re turning women into a mindless monolith and yourself into a hopeless victim. Blaming your dating woes on the idea that all women over 18 expect an experienced man just removes the blame for all your dating issues off of you because you make it suddenly magically their fault. There are also women over 18 who are virgins. How would you ever even go about “seeing” that? Being good at sex is learnable. Satisfying someone is learnable. You just need to find a woman willing to t…
/r/seduction30/08/21 04:14 PM
1

If you’re looking for casual sex, it’s going to be harder because you’re inexperienced so it’s going to be one boring not really fulfilling night for the girl that’s cool with it. Imagine it like needing to have a prostate exam. Would you go to the doctor with years of experience and a proven track record or the brand new doctor who might not even be able to find your butt hole. You wouldn’t despise the young doctor because you understand he’s learning and everyone learns, but if all you’re look…
/r/seduction30/08/21 03:06 PM
1

Match his energy. If he seems busy and distant, give him space. He could be busy or his cat died. Or he’s mad you didn’t sleep with him right away and is doing the slow fade. Energy is easier to gauge in person than over text. I’d say go on the date and see if you still fell a connection
/r/seduction29/08/21 10:54 PM
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If you’re this entitled and see no problem with it, I can see why. There is a difference between being confident and knowing knowing your self worth and being an arrogant and entitled.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:52 AM
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I disagree. Women are human beings not objects to have. You don’t deserve her love if she’s unwilling to give it. That’s border line rape defense. Just like you aren’t attracted to or love every girl, it is not their job to love you.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:38 AM
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Define deserves. We are not entitled to another’s love. It’s a desire definitely, but we do not deserve a person we are attracted to just because we want them. It sucks that the girls that OP wants don’t want him because he’s short, but it’s not anyone or anything being unfair to him.
/r/seduction29/08/21 02:19 AM
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You said “that is so unfair to me” according to this line of thinking only the most attractive people in the world who can have whoever they want don’t have it unfairly. We all have our flaws. Stop obsessing over the girls who don’t want you and finds the ones who do. Just like you wouldn’t date a girl you’re not attracted to, they don’t want to date you. It’s not unfair. It’s just how the world works.
/r/seduction28/08/21 09:27 PM
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Ugly people have fewer options as well. How do we measure fairness in partner options? Why do you deserve more options than an ugly guy? Why does anyone “deserve” someone’s attention? It sucks yes. But it’s not unfair nor someone else’s fault. We like who we like.
/r/seduction28/08/21 09:17 PM
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How is that unfair? Women didn’t ask for you to be short either. It’s not their fault they’re not attracted to it. It would be like if an ugly girl wanted to bag you. She didn’t ask to be born ugly. You didn’t ask to not be attracted to her.
/r/seduction28/08/21 09:10 PM
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I didn’t say talking to people is creepy. It becomes creepy when you can’t read the social cues and realize she’s not into it. You said she was quiet and didn’t want to do small talk and even seemed dazed. A “civilized” man gets when someone isn’t into the horse and pony show and politely bows out. That’s what I meant when I said creepy. Men who push and push until the girl breaks are creepy. I didn’t mean to imply what you did was creepy. There’s a time and a place for everything. If you’re at …
/r/seduction27/08/21 05:57 PM
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You’re overthinking it. It’s likely she was very aware of your intentions and may have been surprised you stopped without turning into a creep, but you have no reason to feel “horribly sad” for her or worry that she was “disappointed” if she was as taken with you as you seem to think, she could’ve asked for your number. The fact that someone isn’t talkative doesn’t mean they’re just waiting on the edge of their seat for you to write your number on the palm of their hand like some cheesy romance …
/r/seduction27/08/21 02:30 PM
1

What?
/r/seduction26/08/21 04:16 PM
1

Lmao the amount men think women’s lives revolve around them is laughable. Like you actually believe you ruined a random woman’s day by not giving her your number?
/r/seduction26/08/21 02:53 PM
-1

Gotcha. You know what they say. Jokes are funnier when you have to explain them
/r/seduction26/08/21 02:19 PM
-1

These is an entire abyss between accepting your faults and being proud of them. Would you have this same opinion on a woman who is overweight and realizes it and doesn’t care because she’s embraced it?
/r/seduction26/08/21 02:05 PM
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I agree. Some people grow up really fast. Some are forced to. And some never do. If you realize there’s a problem and are trying to fix it, I respect that. It didn’t come off that way in your comment so I guess I suck at reading tone recently
/r/seduction26/08/21 01:51 PM
-31

Seriously. It’s like he’s proud of being more immature
/r/seduction26/08/21 05:30 AM
18

Why is it superficial that women want someone they’re attracted to? Do you consider yourself superficial for what you find attractive?
/r/seduction17/08/21 03:39 AM
2

Gotcha
/r/seduction14/08/21 04:58 AM
3

So in other words lie?
/r/seduction14/08/21 03:49 AM
2

Lol how are you being used? If the sex was mutually agreed on, they owe you nothing. Not another date, another hook up or another chance. If having easy sex makes you feel used, stop doing it.
/r/seduction08/08/21 02:37 PM
1

You need to learn to calm down when challenged about your stances or beliefs. If you react this way when talking to women, I can see why you’re struggling. There will always be people who disagree and have vastly different viewpoints. If you can’t have a conversation about it and immediately devolve into insults and anger, you won’t get far in convincing anyone of anything. My point was you say she was pretty wasn’t entirely innocent of motive like you implied and that women know this and take t…
/r/seduction12/07/21 05:30 AM
1

Calm down bro. You fucking said: I think most people think I said “you’re pretty” to fuck her, I said it because i thought she was pretty You did want to fuck her. Stop acting like you didn’t. I don’t care that you wanted to. I don’t give a flying fuck about your secret personal relationship with wanting to screw women. I don’t care who you’re attracted to. Stop lying tinkerbell. Women are very aware of what “you’re pretty” means and you just proved it. Good job losing your mind over it
/r/seduction12/07/21 04:12 AM
1

So you were romantically attracted to her and wanted at some point to sleep with her right? If she wasn’t pretty, you wouldn’t have wanted to sleep with her or date her because you wouldn’t be attracted to her, ergo, you telling her she’s pretty does mean you want to fuck her. Ergo your defense that you calling her pretty didn’t mean you wanted to sleep with her is a bald faced lie. I just want you to be honest to everyone and yourself that your intention was to fuck her
/r/seduction12/07/21 03:48 AM
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That’s a nonsensical defense. Unless you’re asexual, finding someone attractive and wanting to take them on a date means sooner or later if things go well you want to sleep with them. If you thought she was just objectively pretty and wanted to make her day a little better, why did you ask if she was single?
/r/seduction11/07/21 03:05 PM
3

Stop you’re hurting their feelings
/r/seduction07/07/21 02:24 PM
1

How does not negging women equal subjugation to you? You’re losing you nuance again buddy
/r/seduction04/07/21 07:12 PM
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Im glad you realize nuance is a thing. I hope one day you find it. There doesn’t have to be subjugation in a relationship. There’s a reason they’re called your partner and not your slave
/r/seduction04/07/21 05:47 PM
1

Yeah sure buddy whatever. More petty insults when you put your foot in your mouth. Take the alpha male douche bag act somewhere else. It don’t impress me much
/r/seduction04/07/21 04:13 AM
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You need to go back to third grade. Look at the statement you made about me and then the one you made about Hitler. gasp you called me outright crazy and called Hitler’s VIEWS crazy. Pathetic. Try again
/r/seduction04/07/21 01:22 AM
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Links? Just because science changes it’s mind based on the evidence doesn’t mean it’s inherently biased or targeting a group maliciously. Good scientists understand that additional research can change things. At one point humans thought the sun revolved around the earth. And a lot of guys on this sub do advocate for harassing women. So because they’re afraid of being manipulated it becomes excusable for them to manipulate others? Sounds hypocritical and shitty as fuck to me. This isn’t a either …
/r/seduction03/07/21 04:10 AM
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If so many people misunderstand your epic terminology that there’s a wiki page on it, y’all have horrifically failed at teaching people how to use it properly. As it is I think I’ll put my trust in Wikipedia before a random dude on Reddit. As they say: the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Maybe don’t say things to people that they could easily interpret as offensive or mean. Don’t put people down even indirectly.
/r/seduction03/07/21 03:59 AM
1

Same thing happens to women. Can’t get a date. You’re fat. People need to chill with the assumptions
/r/seduction02/07/21 05:21 PM
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You can defend anything under the guise of a joke. If you make racist jokes, they are still jokes but also racist. Negging-which being a joke to you- is also manipulatively insulting someone
/r/seduction02/07/21 05:05 PM
0

And now you resort to insults. Pathetic
/r/seduction02/07/21 03:33 PM
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It works on people with low self esteem. Only people insecure in themselves seek the approval of jerks. Not sure what you don’t get about that. How is calling someone annoying and acting like they’re unworthy of participating in a random conversation “neutral”?
/r/seduction02/07/21 02:05 PM
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Define trash. It’s treating them like they’re annoying and unworthy to be included in a random conversation. There is nothing good about that
/r/seduction02/07/21 02:03 PM
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Yeah how about no. I don’t approve of negging even if done for the “right” reasons. Which is why I shut it down whenever I see it either online or in person. There are better ways to playfully get someone’s attention rather than ignoring them and then calling them names when they talk to you. Maybe don’t be a pot calling the kettle black bro. Y’all have a crusade to neg people to get what you want and I have one to get people to stop being mean in the name of “fun” I’m just give people here anot…
/r/seduction02/07/21 02:02 PM
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And now you resort to petty insults. Not impressed in the slightest. I’ll decline another ticket on your supposedly fun emotional rollarcoaster of mean and nasty comments
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:59 AM
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No it’s not. Where’s the fun in that? You’re trying to make someone feel bad and then saying “ooop never mind just joking har de har har” if what you say is mean, it’s negging
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:48 AM
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There’s a difference between being fun and playful and needlessly insulting someone. You don’t always have to be on your “meeting the queen” behavior, but treating people like trash because you want to manipulate them into sleeping with you honestly isn’t cute
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:34 AM
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I know what negging is. Dude seemed like he wanted a definition. You also doesn’t seem to know how Wikipedia works at all. Acting like you’re being victimized by a giant site like Wikipedia is laughable
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:33 AM
1

Yeah. Go neg people with low self esteem. Karma will find you one day
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:32 AM
3

You’re the one that doesn’t seem to, but I’m not surprised tbh
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:13 AM
10

Exactly it’s a childish game
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:03 AM
4

Wikipedia: “Negging (derived from the verb neg, meaning "negative feedback") is an act of emotional manipulation whereby a person makes a deliberate backhanded compliment or otherwise flirtatious remark to another person to undermine their confidence and increase their need of the manipulator's approval.
/r/seduction02/07/21 04:01 AM
11

Yeah because negging someone is a great way to start seeing someone
/r/seduction02/07/21 03:36 AM
23

Why would you ruin your friendship like that? It’ll never last. FWB end badly most of the time
/r/seduction01/07/21 03:07 AM
1

Personal opinion, but I would say especially if you haven’t gone on a date yet, don’t text to ask boring questions like wyd or asking how her day went or how many siblings she has. Texting someone you want to date should be fun. Send memes. Tell random interesting things that happen to you. Be flirty but not gross. You can have all the serious interview type questions when you actually meet.
/r/seduction29/06/21 07:00 PM
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You’re not being ridiculous. It hurts to be screwed with by people. You’re in too deep. He’s playing games with you and you actually care. Block him and go find someone who actually wants to be with you
/r/seduction28/06/21 05:38 AM
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Reread my comment. That’s not what I said So when would you back off? When do you feel that your desire to sleep with them is less important than their comfort? Or do you ever feel that way? Why is your desire to sleep with them more important than their desire to have you shut the fuck up?
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:20 PM
2

How is this not entitled? Do you want me to give you the definition of entitled? Entitled doesn’t have to involve complaining. You’re acting entitled to these women’s attention. Why? Why do you feel they owe you attention? Only incels call people chads. Normal people aren’t that bitter
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:12 PM
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I don’t revere anyone so I’m not sure how’s that relevant, but you using that kind of language just makes you look bitter. It’s creepy because you’re acting like you’re entitled to their time, to their attention, to their body just because you think they’re attractive. Approaching someone isn’t creepy. Being unable to read social cues and know when to back off is. Why are you feel entitled to someone? You sound like an incel man
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:04 PM
3

You don’t see how that’s creepy as shit?
/r/seduction27/06/21 04:55 PM
1

This tip mainly works if you're on the bus or in a line of some kind, basically anywhere you or the girl won't be going anywhere anytime soon If this happens, don't give up so easily! If you're on a train or something or you won't be going anywhere anytime soon, you might as well keep trying. So, in other words, corner women, trap them in places where they can’t escape you and force them to give you attention by never shutting up. Please stop doing this
/r/seduction27/06/21 04:49 PM
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That’s your call. If you want to be that type of person, go ahead. I personally find ghosting cowardly and immature
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:53 AM
1

Why sink to that level?
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:44 AM
1

If she keeps killing it, she’s probably doing it intentionally and you’re not picking up on the message there
/r/seduction27/06/21 05:15 AM
9

Maybe if you didn’t have so much bitterness toward women it would help
/r/seduction25/06/21 08:03 PM
1

Does what work?
/r/seduction25/06/21 06:15 PM
0

Because a lot of them are manipulative and immature are will do anything or hurt anyone to get what they want
/r/seduction25/06/21 06:06 PM
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Your bad. Judge on, old man. Judge on
/r/seduction25/06/21 03:01 AM
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Wow you knowing how to be helpful instead of a pretentious ass? When am I going to see that side of you?
/r/seduction25/06/21 02:51 AM
0

Did your therapist tell you that? Or did you just look in the mirror and parrot back?
/r/seduction25/06/21 02:33 AM
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I hope one day you down some sanity old man
/r/seduction25/06/21 01:57 AM
0

Yeah because toothbrushes and toothpaste are so incredibly expensive only people in Hollywood can afford them
/r/seduction25/06/21 01:46 AM
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Dream of clean, full toothed grease monkeys
/r/seduction25/06/21 12:45 AM
0

Well boo hoo I didn’t put a period at the end of a sentence. 90% of Reddit doesn’t so I don’t know what old person mindset you’re stuck in. Next time make your comments clearer and less pretentious and maybe you’ll be able to get your point across
/r/seduction25/06/21 12:17 AM
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If people hold themselves to the same standards they hold others to, there is no double standard. You obviously have no capacity for anything but extremes so I think it’s a bit hypocritical that you’re acting holier than thou when you’re willing to judge these women you seem to think are judging men for their exact failings. You obviously don’t know the definition of a double standard so I’ll paste it here: “a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of…
/r/seduction24/06/21 11:10 PM
1

So how are we allowed to judge people? If your teeth that you use every day are not important enough for you to get fixed, how does that not say something about you as a person? If you don’t clean your fingernail, how does that not say something about you as a person? Why should we trust that people who can’t take pride in themselves, will treat our things any better? If she was mad because he wasn’t wearing a 1000 dollar Gucci suit, i would agree that’s ridiculous. I also fail to see where this…
/r/seduction24/06/21 09:07 PM
1

Yeah it’s almost like people will be nice to you if you’re nice to them and will be mean to you if you’re mean to them. You should write a book about this mind blowing discover
/r/seduction24/06/21 08:11 PM
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Yeah because washing your clothes and scrubbing your fingernails is something no woman does. It’s almost like women value hygiene and so they are hygienic themselves. You need to learn the meaning of a double standard hon
/r/seduction24/06/21 08:05 PM
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I agree. The egotistical men who tell you when and where things are going to happen and expect you to clear your schedule just for them are annoying. I agree if you’re the one who asks someone out you should have a plan, but this is controlling not confidence
/r/seduction20/06/21 05:36 AM
0

Lol go cry. If you think that was me insulting, I think you’re way more a snowflake than I am. Calm down with the self righteous soap boxing
/r/seduction16/06/21 10:19 PM
1

It’s “your” not “you”
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:14 PM
1

Someone’s wittle feels got hurt didn’t they? Maybe go back to bragging about all the places you’ve lived and visited with daddy’s money. Might make you feel better
/r/seduction16/06/21 05:01 PM
1

OP lives in the US. Sit down frog man
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:34 PM
1

Bro… you can drive at 16 in every US state except New Jersey and in some you can get a learners permit at 14. People were talking about them being in the US because 16 year olds in the magic countries you’re living in don’t work part time jobs. Calm down it’s not that serious
/r/seduction16/06/21 02:44 PM
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That wasn’t my point. You’re accusing me of stuff I never advocated for. I disagree that you can approach ANY girl especially if she’s obviously underage, but approaching people is fine if you’re respectful and know how to take a no. OP followed a 16 year old girl to her car. That’s where my problem is and his blunder. She waved to him in the building and said bye. He could’ve asked her then. Don’t follow strange women to their cars. Just don’t
/r/seduction16/06/21 02:33 PM
1

Ooof my bad. Sorry dude
/r/seduction16/06/21 02:25 PM
2

I’m not heated. You’re the one who got annoyed because I sounded like Michael Scott. Just because women can get a bf without approaching doesn’t mean either that you have to do it, or that it’s our problem. Maybe if men were more accepting of women approaching it wouldn’t be so unusual. Go out and change society man. I don’t mind. You do you. Just stop blaming women for your actions and until you make it unacceptable to kill and rape women in parking lots and shit don’t stalk women to their cars
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:46 AM
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crabias bucketive securitus reverts to using those fancy words like “hysterical” and “offended” which looks even more hypocritical after being offended over pronouns
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:35 AM
2

crabias bucketive securitus slinks away nursing crabias bucketive securitus’s wounds and looking for any mildly graceful way out. Failing to keep Orwell and conformity in mind, crabias bucketive securitus conforms and uses the dreaded socially acceptable term “thank you”
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:31 AM
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Confused by the use of the pronoun crabias bucketive securitus becomes worried that there isn’t enough understanding for crabias bucketive securitus and must assert dominance in the form of changing the complaint. Poor Orwell is rolling in his grave at the hypocrisy of it all
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:26 AM
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It clung all the more desperately to it’s favorite analogy. Unable to see that there was a huge difference between stalking someone into a parking lot and simply asking them out. Orwell wrote a whole book so it must be as it says Edit: It promptly deletes its comment claiming sexual assault realizing its going to start crossing lines
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:20 AM
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It throws in an emoji because that’s what the cool kids have been doing these days. It’s confused by it’s inability to understand that gender doesn’t change the ability to see decency. It’s confused but it’s got the spirit
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:12 AM
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It continued speaking words as if intelligent enough to add value to the debate. Wanting to add a name drop for a sick burn, it conjures up the name of the author of the most over cited book ever written. Feeling ever tougher, it basked in the glory of calling people who disagree with it the dreaded K word
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:08 AM
1

I’m not sure if that makes it funnier or not
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:05 AM
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You’re boring. Like if you’re gonna be a punk ass bitch at least be interesting about it. Like big whoop. You think I’m a Karen. Ow my feels. Try someone else tinker bell
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:03 AM
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Ahh now you’re stalking me. That’s funny. Do you follow teenage girls into parking lots? I didn’t come for OP. I replied to the morons like you who defended his blunder and are acting like it’s okay. Calm down man. Stalking people ain’t cool
/r/seduction16/06/21 06:01 AM
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Okay? Am I supposed to be insulted? Like I don’t get what you want and I don’t take the words of incels seriously so you should just mosey along tinker bell
/r/seduction16/06/21 05:55 AM
0

Great come back man. Very eloquent in your defense of a grown man stalking a 16 year old girl to her car
/r/seduction16/06/21 05:51 AM
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My bad. I mixed your waves up. Maybe she waved at you because you made conversation with her. Who knows. Maybe she caught you staring because you noticed she didn’t wave to anyone else. Again, being friendly doesn’t inherently imply sexy time I personally wouldn’t have a problem if you’d asked her out then and there. It happens. If you’re respectful about it and know how to take no it’s not a big deal to me. But you stalked her into the parking lot. That’s creepy. Don’t do that bro. Just don’t. …
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:45 AM
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Lol you’re so butthurt about this. Calm down man you’re not going to war. You don’t have to approach. Neither do women. It’s your individual choice. I’ll say it again and you’ll have to imagine it in the Michael Scott voice: no one asked you to. It’s your choice to approach women. If you don’t want to, it won’t kill you to stop. Stop acting like you’re doing us a favor. I couldn’t care less. Nothing happening is way better than being killed
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:35 AM
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Um because she’s at her JOB and being friendly to customers is her JOB. Read the post again. She motioned for him to come over and ORDER. I’m not sure what planet you’re on, but here on earth that isn’t woman speak for “let’s fuck” Her JOB is to be friendly and give good customer service. If every man on earth thinks like you y’all need a serious reality check. I’ll say it again, a woman being friendly doesn’t inherently mean she wants to screw you. Unlike men, we can be nice to people we don’t …
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:20 AM
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No one is making you. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to. I release you from the obligation and all the self righteous entitlement it seems to entail. You’re welcome
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:16 AM
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Respect for what? Stalking a teenager girl to her car? If y’all have a daughter, I hope she never has to go through the bs her own father condones
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:56 AM
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Or she laughed because you looked shocked when the girl said she was 16? Or she laughed because she was nervous? Or she laughed because it was the fourth time today she got hit on? Or that had a running bet that he was going to hit on her? There are a million possible reasons that she could’ve laughed and y’all just want to believe she lied because y’all are so cynical It’s sad honestly. You guys are so trapped in the mind games you can’t see your way out. It would absolutely collapse your Lego …
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:55 AM
1

Exactly. You GET to live with it. If your intention was bad, she might not be living at all
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:49 AM
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Yeah what planet is that guy living on? A lot of teenagers have part time jobs and drive at 16. Some many people here seem to believe that when they don’t get the answer they want that the girl is lying to them.
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:45 AM
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Yeah it’s totally a privilege to be stalked to our cars by both creepy men and non creepy men and not be able to tell the difference. You take a risk of being rejected. We take the risk of being killed, but I’m sorry you have to take such risks. Do you want a medal?
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:38 AM
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I know. Can you believe these men defending him like he’s an innocent angel. She had no idea he was some hapless dupe. How do you not know it’s unacceptable to stalk women out of public places and to their cars? Nothing you said was gaslighting. Don’t listen to these dudes who are gaslighting you
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:34 AM
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Y’all live in a very sad world where you believe everyone is lying to you because it’s impossible that someone could be 16 or a girl would have a bf or that no actually means no. You play so many games that you see nothing else in anyone else
/r/seduction16/06/21 03:27 AM
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Says you. Those men that get so shredded they look like they’re on steroids are not attractive to most women. Y’all look like aliens. And it’s the 21 century. We have our own money and our own fast cars. You’re obviously going for the wrong girls if all they want is The Rock
/r/seduction13/06/21 04:49 PM
1

Lmao this sounds like some horse whisperer bs
/r/seduction09/06/21 03:58 AM
2

When does it become harassment then? Three? Four? When she starts crying? When she slaps you with a restraining order? Why are you the one who gets to decide when ignoring a person’s “no” is okay?
/r/seduction08/06/21 01:54 PM
1

Yeah, because no totally just means keep asking until she says yes
/r/seduction07/06/21 09:39 PM
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How is that putting her on a pedestal? Acknowledging that she’s attractive isn’t the same as acting like she’s perfect and way above you
/r/seduction07/06/21 03:15 AM
2

I think situational remarks are the best if you have one on hand. They’re easier to engage with and come off as more sincere and thoughtful. “You’re hot” is low hanging fruit.
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:27 PM
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You don’t need to defend your actions if you’re doing nothing wrong. You can be polite. You can say hi excuse me and acknowledge you’re interrupting them, but personally using words like weird and strange cheapens the interaction and makes people fixate on the weirdness. Like when you say, “don’t look at the ceiling” and everyone does or you introduce yourself by saying “I’m not a serial killer” and everyone immediately assumes you are. Again, this is just personal preference. Maybe some girls f…
/r/seduction05/06/21 09:04 PM
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When guys say “hey this is random” or “I know it’s weird” it comes off the same way it does when people on Reddit preempt a comment or post with “I know I’m going to get downvoted and possibly banned”
/r/seduction05/06/21 08:57 PM
3

You’re taking this too personally. Did you think that every girl you came on to was going to be flattered you’re hitting on her?
/r/seduction02/06/21 06:05 AM
1

Lol thanks man She does sound like she’s been messed up. Kindness and empathy are about being able to step away from what you want and how someone can benefit you and just being their for them. Hold people when they cry instead of trying to logically decipher why they’re crying. Ask people how you can help instead of assuming. Also, don’t let yourself get hurt giving your all to someone who’s messed up. Empathy doesn’t include bleeding your emotional energy dry for someone else.
/r/seduction29/05/21 10:19 PM
1

How is she sensitive exactly? If she’s heartbroken because her dad left her, that’s not sensitive, that’s heartbreak. How is “getting” her being there for her exactly? If telling insensitive jokes hurts her feelings don’t do it. Try to understand where she’s coming from. You see her as sensitive maybe she sees you as cruel
/r/seduction29/05/21 09:56 PM
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Nah man id totally be interested in what happened when you told her that. It honestly kind of sounds like you want to take advantage of someone who’s screwed up.
/r/seduction29/05/21 09:37 PM
1

Yes definitely tell someone who’s sensitive to grow up. She’ll probably fall in love and fuck you on the spot
/r/seduction29/05/21 09:27 PM
1

They’re not tasteful. They’re you standing naked in a bathroom next to a toilet with a hand on your junk. In your face nudity, never did anything for me unless it’s a partner. Stop looking at your nudes through the male gaze and shoot them through a female one
/r/seduction29/05/21 06:23 AM
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I agree women enjoy sex just as much as men if treated right. I have never once in my life thought “OMG what is he going to do next” neither have I imagined what is going to happen. Maybe men have the clarity in the moment to be writing epic story lines, but if a woman is day dreaming while you’re doing the sex, y’all doing it wrong. I’d say it’s more like “holy shit this feels good don’t stop” than a chess match. I do agree that frequently women take longer to relax and get ready, but I don’t t…
/r/seduction28/05/21 10:38 PM
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Dress like Chris Evans
/r/seduction28/05/21 05:14 AM
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I feel sorry for that poor kid. You sound like a shitty dad man. Nothing like having to explain to your child that you left their mom so you could fuck randos
/r/seduction27/05/21 03:17 PM
2

Yeah this isnt true. Some women are manipulative morons just like some men are. Painting an entire gender with the same brush makes you look foolish and hateful
/r/seduction26/05/21 08:51 PM
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I wouldn’t say having your date do most of the talking is attractive. You either sound like you’re trying to hide things or you’re so bad at conversation that you can’t participate.
/r/seduction21/05/21 05:07 PM
0

Im sorry I was laughing so hard I couldn’t respond. All that role-play, insult crap might work on “insecure” naïve people, but to me it all looks ridiculous. If you think playing games that we thought were suave in 5th grade go ahead, but your games only manipulate the same childish type of people. Don’t insult people. It’s not funny or clever. Take your negging elsewhere
/r/seduction19/05/21 03:03 AM
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Did you just call yourself ugly?
/r/seduction18/05/21 11:46 PM
2

Cute. This is exactly why it’s hilarious. A lot of guys react like you just did. Defensiveness isn’t hot. Separates the wheat from the tuna fish
/r/seduction18/05/21 10:51 PM
1

My favorite reply to that is “no, but he is”
/r/seduction18/05/21 10:32 PM
1

The rest of what?
/r/seduction18/05/21 05:54 PM
3

How about don’t touch people inappropriately even if you’re gay? Being gay doesn’t give you license to other people’s bodies just because you’re not sexually attracted to them. It’s not funny. Don’t touch women unless you know they’re okay with it
/r/seduction17/05/21 07:47 PM
2

Ahh yes and you’re bisexual so that makes everything better. Maybe it’ll work on you lol but you’re not a woman. You’re acting like you’re the judge, jury, and executioner of what works on women. You don’t have to be a radical feminist to treat people decently
/r/seduction17/05/21 07:43 PM
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I think “shit tests” are laughable. I’ve never once negged a guy I like to see if he’s “confident and masculine” I think inherently most relationships hit a phase where you both tease each other and see how comfortable you are with each other’s humor, but if girl’s are calling you ugly and fat and short, those are insults and red flags, not “shit tests” also, “let’s not have sex tonight” isn’t code for “push me some more and maybe I’ll cave in and give you want you want” Learn to read the differ…
/r/seduction17/05/21 07:39 PM
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Or maybe she’s just busy and showing you she’s “valuable” just like you are. Guys don’t like clingy girls either. You call it ignoring; she calls it giving you space
/r/seduction13/05/21 09:29 PM
1

Ahh cool. I didn’t realize that was a thing lol thx
/r/seduction09/05/21 05:30 PM
1

Just curious. What are you writing on that doesn’t automatically capitalize the first letter after the period?
/r/seduction09/05/21 04:15 PM
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I agree. It’s touch and go. And men need to be taught where it’s appropriate to do approaches. No one should be harassed at work or at the gym or when it’s obvious they don’t want to engage. But saying only approach women on dating sites is taking it too far
/r/seduction08/05/21 01:15 AM
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I agree it’s annoying as hell and awkward and sometimes scary to be approached by men and a decent amount of advice on this sub isn’t helping. But acting like dating apps are the end all be all of dating is wrong. There are tons of people not on any of them. They’re expensive and time consuming. I think if a man can be polite and respectful and know how to read social cues and learn to accept “no” and “I have a boyfriend” or even “fuck off” when approaching someone, there’s nothing wrong with it…
/r/seduction08/05/21 12:10 AM
1

If that one wasn’t exactly what you were looking for down to the minute details, go look at the rest of them. I’m not going to spoon feed you each article. As I said, that was the first one I came across. Also, did you even read the article at all. this non-technical book is surprisingly replete with scientific inaccuracies, misrepresentations, assumptions, and false statements. The 78 pages of references (at the back of the book) are not cited specifically in the text, making it virtually impos…
/r/seduction07/05/21 11:15 PM
1

Bro learn how to use Google or something. I’m not going to hold your hand through this. https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/fulltext/2007/06050/Misrepresenting_the__Female__Brain.13.aspx Here’s the first article I found on it
/r/seduction07/05/21 10:57 PM
1

Brizendine was given the tongue-in-cheek 2006 Becky Award, which is given to "people or organizations who have made outstanding contributions to linguistic misinformation".[7] The award cited errors in The Female Brain, including one sentence (removed from subsequent printings) which contrasted the number of words used by men and women in one day. The numbers had been taken from a book by a self-help guru and were incorrect You mean this book? That’s got just as many detractors and supporters. J…
/r/seduction07/05/21 10:40 PM
1

Lol like you told me Google is free. Google about how women and your expectations for them are created and perpetuated by human beings. Lots of scientific articles out there about that too. It might make you feel better to hide behind biology as a defense for your desires to screw young girls and treat older women as inherently valueless, but it’s laughable watching you act like it’s real
/r/seduction07/05/21 10:23 PM
1

I explained it because you brought it up. I’m not using it as part of my argument. My argument is that humans and society created the idea of the need for youth and other ideals forced on women. Not biology.
/r/seduction07/05/21 09:57 PM
1

You’re the one that brought it up bro. I’m just talking from a biological perspective. Social factors can influence that imperative, but it’s the central point of origin to which we operate Your words not mine
/r/seduction07/05/21 09:43 PM
1

Because society creates ideal and constructs that genders are expected to follow. I’m sure women living in caves didn’t wax and that men still found them attractive. You watch the biological drive of any other species to mate, it is not chokehold determined by age or youth. Biology give humans the desire to reproduce. Human being created the idea that men instinctively need youthful women. Male biological reproduction doesn’t discriminate in such a way
/r/seduction07/05/21 09:33 PM
1

It’s a societal push for sustainability not a biological one. You didn’t answer it well because you reduced it to “men wanna fuck young girls because biology so women wax and wear makeup to look younger because biology” there is inherent value in women beyond their youth and in men beyond their muscles
/r/seduction07/05/21 09:13 PM
1

It doesn’t matter how you feel either, bro. You’re pulling “science” off goggle that feeds your echo chamber. OP asked is beauty “All about youth and looking younger” they didn’t ask for this stripped down, people are nothing but animals controled by biology stuff you’re pushing. People disagree all the time on Reddit. Not sure why you think you’re so special dude
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:45 PM
2

Why would the male to female ratio matter?
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:35 PM
1

Exactly. You’re reducing the value of everything to one supposedly biological drive you think every person operates on. OP, whatever else they might be, didn’t ask for a singleminded worldview on male/female interactions.
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:33 PM
1

Just because you view the world through the multicolor prescription drug lens doesn’t mean it’s true. Everyone has inherent value including men. Treating women like nothing but looks and treating men like nothing but strength and money is continuing to perpetuate dehumanizing views of both genders
/r/seduction07/05/21 08:18 PM
2

Or you know maybe men just misunderstand women and oversell an interaction that could’ve just been about human connection it into the Epic Female Language of Flirting. Basing your reading of social cues on things like hair playing is reaching.
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:50 PM
0

Eww. I get that you’re trying to be encouraging and people should love themselves, but you’re pushing toxic ideas. No, no one needs a relationship to be happy, but being a manipulative, thrill seeker isn’t exactly making you into anyone great. And you can have testosterone and deadly diseases flowing through your body and trust me the testosterone isn’t going to cancel out the diseases and make you okay
/r/seduction07/05/21 06:42 PM
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He looks like a serial killer. Would it kill him to smile?
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:36 PM
1

Or-crazy idea-you could respect other people’s relationships and not go for it
/r/seduction06/05/21 04:50 AM
3

I have never known a single person who enjoys emotional rollercoasters. There’s a difference between being clingy and playing the hot and cold game
/r/seduction04/05/21 09:43 PM
2

I was kidding lol. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with asking women questions. I’m just curious why so many people here think “I have a boyfriend” is a signal to change lanes rather than a red light
/r/seduction02/05/21 04:26 PM
1

What’s my point? Not accusing people of lying without proof because you’re insecure? Why are you so hell bent on hurting your own feelings by believing that they don’t have a boyfriend? What good does believing this do you?
/r/seduction02/05/21 03:10 PM
2

Lol so in other words you are just making it up. Cool beans
/r/seduction02/05/21 03:09 PM
4

How do you know that’s how it is? You’re just claiming that. Are you doing peer reviewed research on the matter? How do you know this? Oh that’s right you’re assuming it. Got it. Make assumptions and use them as facts. Thanks man
/r/seduction02/05/21 03:04 PM
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You’re still assuming you’re right. You pulled this number out of thin air. I don’t see why it helps to make negative assumptions about things. If she doesn’t have a boyfriend would you rather she says no you’re an ugly freak? There actually are women in the world who are in relationships you know
/r/seduction02/05/21 02:53 PM
2

Why is it impossible that she actually has a boyfriend and actually loves him and actually doesn’t want to cheat on him? Does it make you feel better to assume she’s lying to you because you’re no hot enough?
/r/seduction02/05/21 02:33 PM
1

I know, who asks women questions? Like newb am I right?
/r/seduction02/05/21 02:31 PM
21

You’re not a creep. You’re not the problem. The problem is the creeps. Just because you didn’t send a dick pic after the book review doesn’t mean she hasn’t gotten that before. Or a creep cornered her in the park. A lot of women, especially attractive women, get harassed constantly. It becomes exhausting and easier to be cautious and view you as a creep than to waste time and energy
/r/seduction29/04/21 06:20 AM
5

You have a girlfriend. Don’t be a cheater. If you’re not into your gf anymore break things off and move on. Until you do that you shouldn’t be having sex with random people
/r/seduction28/04/21 02:53 PM
13

I mean it’s definitely not a turn on, but it’s not a dealbreaker. Usually not staring at a guy’s back during sex anyway
/r/seduction23/04/21 11:04 PM
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Just saying. You were worried and what to say and when to say it. When you hit on people doing their job, especially in the service industry, the odds of getting a fake number are high.
/r/seduction16/04/21 11:08 PM
25

I mean she’s a bartender. She probably gets more numbers in a night than you get in a month
/r/seduction16/04/21 10:29 PM
1

I hope this isn’t real
/r/seduction12/04/21 04:05 AM
3

In a casual situation, it’d be less likely to work. However, if they’re my friend’s friend and they know them and can vouch for their character, sure I’ve done that and had friends do it for me. A lot of people meet partners through their friend group. It works if she’s attracted to you
/r/seduction05/04/21 08:08 AM
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What makes you think I'm manipulative? Read your post history. I never said that a woman WOULD remember someone that they've rejected, and i never used personal anecdotes to make a broad statement about relationships because that's the logic of the ignorant. You decided out of all the random ass anecdotal rules being made up on this sub and even on this post that instead you’d come at me for saying “trust me women don’t care.” I qualified that some would. I made many qualifying statements. I nev…
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:44 AM
1

Nah I’m not interested in manipulative people
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:07 AM
1

Consider me unimpressed
/r/seduction05/04/21 02:54 AM
1

In my anecdotal evidence, people who drink coffee are weak
/r/seduction05/04/21 02:45 AM
1

I don’t drink coffee. Burning beans and then drinking enough to give a Buffalo a heart attack because you can’t function otherwise seems weak
/r/seduction05/04/21 02:13 AM
1

Yeah no. Eating food over zoom sounds moronic
/r/seduction04/04/21 11:44 PM
1

Nah I’ll pass. I don’t mind having dumb arguments with people online but I’m not gonna waste time in real life with someone like you
/r/seduction04/04/21 11:38 PM
1

Why would I want to eat food with someone whose pretentious and rude?
/r/seduction04/04/21 11:07 PM
1

Funny how words keep coming out of your mouth like you think you’re some fountain of wisdom
/r/seduction04/04/21 08:54 PM
1

Ha I’ll take your senseless argument as an admission of stupidity
/r/seduction04/04/21 08:43 PM
1

I’m not the one crying about anecdotal evidence and made up rules. Projecting much?
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:13 PM
1

Go cry honey. No one asked
/r/seduction04/04/21 04:26 PM
1

I know who you are bro. You’re wishy washy because you came at me with “your experience doesn’t matter” and zero to back it up. Take your pretentious ass off. No one asked for your asinine opinion
/r/seduction04/04/21 05:24 AM
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It’s a rule made up of your experience. Your anecdotal experience doesn’t invalidate mine. Your rule is something you made up. Doesn’t make it true or verifiable. I’ll say it again. Your bangability doesn’t make you inherently more valuable. You’re one of the most wishy washy people I’ve talked to. Find out what your claim is and then come back. In the mean time, your “rule” is a bunch of bullshit and I stand by my original comment.
/r/seduction03/04/21 01:58 PM
1

You have no proof of your random claim that a girl who rejects a guy would even recognize him later on let along care enough about a guy she wasn’t interested in to give a shit about his supposed “value” solely because someone wanted to bang him. News flash your bangability isn’t a measure of your value and your random claim that you felt compelled to jump in at me with is anecdotal cuz it’s based on your say so
/r/seduction03/04/21 07:18 AM
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You're making the mistake of using YOUR anecdotal experience in rebuttal to a general rule. There can be a general rule which can be true without necessarily applying to you
/r/seduction31/03/21 09:44 PM
1

Okay got it. First I will make the qualifying statement that being approached by men in a bar is way different than in a ice cream shop. I’ve made some questionable decisions while drunk and it wouldn’t surprise me at all that a woman looking to hook up at a bar would give someone she’d met before a second chance or even not recognize you the second time around. It’s also possible she just had a better offer the other time or just broke up with her boyfriend and wanted some quick dick. Again, yo…
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:29 AM
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So, you’re arguing against me saying women who reject a guy don’t care if he becomes popular with the ladies, by giving me examples where you didn’t even change levels of attention? I’m confused what you’re arguing for now. Yeah I’m trying to remember that I did the best I could to give her an awesome life. I’ve honestly started looking at shelter cats again since there are so many in need. I’m just worried I’d be trying to fill a hole instead of taking my time to heal
/r/seduction31/03/21 07:07 AM
1

Oh yeah, I remember now. I hard disagree personally, it won’t always make a difference for sure, but I’ve had at least 2 or 3 times where I’ve been rejected by a girl I was talking up, only to later hook up after we saw each other at the bar and I was in game mode. Oh wow such hard hitting evidence. You had 2 or 3 actual girls give you a second chance. You realize there’s no way to determine what factors made them give you a second chance. Also, 3 people isn’t a scientific sample size. I could a…
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:58 AM
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I’m saying that when most-or whatever 🙄- woman reject a man, they don’t care about how popular he appears to be with women NOW or how many people he’s sleeping with NOW if they ever met him again.
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:47 AM
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Lmao nah you just have zero argument so you’re going with “objectively” wrong. Human nature is very subjective
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:38 AM
1

Eloquent rebuttal man. Really well thought out
/r/seduction31/03/21 06:36 AM
1

Agree to disagree then man 👍
/r/seduction30/03/21 03:32 AM
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So, you’re saying I can make broad generalizations about men and dating given that I’m the one dating them? I look at men way different than men do. My life proves otherwise than your statement. It’s all anecdotal. So, in other words you go up to a random girl at a bar and brag about how large your friend circle is? How else would anyone know this? I’ve never dated a guy specifically because he’s go a ton of friends. As I said before, a guy that gets along with people and can be at ease with a l…
/r/seduction30/03/21 03:16 AM
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Again, as a woman I disagree. I don’t care how popular a guy is. If he gets along with a lot of people that’s a good sign that’s he’s decent person, but if I’m not attracted to him, him being even more popular won’t change that. If I was in any way attracted to him, I would’ve given him a chance. We don’t care if you’re popular for popularity’s sake As a woman, I think my generalization is more accurate. I agree when people are younger popularity matters a lot, but not after high school. I talk …
/r/seduction30/03/21 02:47 AM
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I mentioned that. I’ve been hit on IRL. I seriously doubt I’d recognize most of the guys who I’ve rejected let alone care if they’re dating now. They’re strangers. Do you remember all the women you’ve hit on? I really don’t care who they’re dating now.
/r/seduction30/03/21 02:28 AM
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I beg to differ. If a girl rejects a guy, and he accepts it without issue, and then she later sees him somewhere else surrounded by beautiful women, most times she will question her own choice. It's all too often that women make quick, on-the-moment judgments of a man's worth, only to later realize that he was actually someone of value. As a woman, no. You’re making the incorrect assumption that all women care about is how popular a man is. I see popular movie stars or athletes surrounded by bea…
/r/seduction30/03/21 12:32 AM
10

Thanks bot I always forget that
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:09 PM
25

Trust me. No girl who rejected you cares who you’re banging unless she was actually was interested and messed up. I’ve had guys I thought were my friends try to make me jealous or something by sending weird-ass selfies of them in bed with someone or talking nonstop about how much action they’re getting.
/r/seduction29/03/21 05:05 PM
4

You need to lighten up man
/r/seduction25/03/21 04:30 AM
0

That last part got a little intense. Remember if you’re trying to keep things casual there’s no need to go into forevers and the one. That’ll just scare people off
/r/seduction14/03/21 01:52 AM
0

Would you just walk up to a random person and say that tho?
/r/seduction14/03/21 01:21 AM
3

Not feeling very seduced. Try again
/r/seduction14/03/21 01:18 AM
6

I agree. Self reliance is attractive in both men and women. So many people seem to use relationships as a crutch to shore up the parts of themselves they’re to lazy to fix
/r/seduction12/03/21 06:26 PM
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You’re the one who brought up gatekeeping bro. I never said anything about that. You need to keep the shit you come up with and what I actually say straight. You’ve dragged the discussion into ridiculous accusations you make at me then realize I never said. My original point stands. Men can like sex and still be misogynistic. Seduction can be toxic and sexist. It depends on the attitudes of those engaged in it. I never said anything about people can’t consent to causal sex or about gatekeeping. …
/r/seduction03/03/21 01:38 AM
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If you want men to take responsibility for the system they're using, then women will have to take responsibility on why it works. It takes 2 to tango. If it works, it works. Don't complain to me about it. Lmao. Btw, if pickup feels "gamey", they aren't doing it right. That’s an insane senseless argument lmao. Just because you can do something doesn’t make it morally or legally correct. That would be like telling those who have been sex trafficked that it’s their fault they’re where they are rath…
/r/seduction03/03/21 12:48 AM
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My mistake, I thought you were saying casual sex is wrong. You weren't, but who are you to say that focusing on "game" and not "connections" is when pickup becomes a problem? If some guy wants to sleep with as many women as possible, obviously they're not looking for love/connection. If "game" gets them laid to achieve that goal, don't hate the player. Did you even read the original post? OP was talking about how “pickup” doesn’t have to be “gamey” about how it can be just two people genuinely e…
/r/seduction03/03/21 12:13 AM
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That doesn’t really change my point at all. Your point was men who do pick up games can’t be misogynistic because they don’t “hate” women. Men have been misogynistic for decades and felt women were below them and still slept with them and had kids. The ability to want sex with someone doesn’t magically make someone non-misogynistic. People have different priorities. I don't see anything wrong this. People of all genders goes through that phase, don't pretend like it's a "man/PUA" thing. "Sow you…
/r/seduction02/03/21 11:05 PM
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Misogyny also includes contempt or prejudice against women. The idea that they’re inferior to men. The problem with “PUA” is when it becomes about the “game” and not about making connections with people
/r/seduction02/03/21 08:26 PM
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Do you know what the definition of clickbait is? Just because something is real doesn’t mean it can’t be clickbait. Again, not going to waste 10 minutes of my life watching your life story. Watching you blather on about how life changing it is and how useless my comments are while still responding is actually quite entertaining tho so no
/r/seduction16/02/21 04:35 AM
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I don’t know why you acting dumb has anything to do with being in court but okay buddy. Ain’t gonna watch a 10 minute video just to get you views on your clickbait title. People put TDLRs on their really long posts learn to do that
/r/seduction16/02/21 04:03 AM
3

Yeah that was an intelligent, reasonable response. You sure showed me
/r/seduction16/02/21 03:33 AM
5

Or you could just tell us instead of making us sit through a ten minute YouTube video
/r/seduction16/02/21 03:25 AM
2

As a woman who used to use tinder, it’s an overabundance of trash. Of immature men who send dick pics and ask for nudes and insult you and demand attention like you’re their mother. It’s like an overwhelming wave of negativity and men that just want to screw you and find your only value in how they can use your body
/r/seduction15/02/21 02:38 AM
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Lmao you know what they’re claiming since you preempted it by saying “I’m not trying to berate women or sound misogynistic” why would you even say that if what you said wasn’t controversial
/r/seduction30/01/21 07:24 PM
2

Yeah this is totally false
/r/seduction28/01/21 11:22 PM
1

Not gonna argue with douche bags. Happy new year man hope one day you don’t take pride in being the problem instead of the solution
/r/seduction01/01/21 07:17 AM
1

I didn’t have anything to do with what? I was very much involved. I was the one he was staring at. I am justified in acting impolite to those who act rude to me. Don’t explain to me what I’m bad at explaining eye contact. That’s incredibly patronizing. I think I explained good eye contact better than you did. You’re advice was just keep staring until she looks away. That’s rude and creepy as fuck. Eye contact isn’t a staring contest. If there’s mutual interest it isn’t a show of dominance. The g…
/r/seduction31/12/20 10:17 PM
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No I wasn’t interested. But he wouldn’t stop looking at me so I can be impolite right back. I think eye contact is great as long as the other person is receptive to it. I think there’s a difference between good eye contact and staring. One’s impolite. The other can be quite nice if mutual. If I like a guy, I will smile and look back at him. I use eye contact as an invitation to approach. Unless you’re just being rude
/r/seduction31/12/20 05:22 AM
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I love guys that stare. I just stare right back. Spent a 30 minute bus ride staring down a dude that wouldn’t stop it. It’s hilarious
/r/seduction31/12/20 05:00 AM
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Your mistake was failing to block him when he didn’t take no for an answer. Obsessive persistenc may be cute is movies but it’s a red flag is real life. He asked, you said no, he should’ve respected that moved on. When he showed you howlittle respect he had for you, you should’ve cut him out. He isn’t worth your time.
/r/seduction27/12/20 07:39 PM
1

Yeah I don’t think entitled is the word you’re looking for there buddy
/r/seduction12/12/20 11:43 PM
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Ahh relax. chuckles. I never said any such thing. I just wanted to see the statement where “most women” agreed that they like “attention” from men. You know cuz men thinking we’re bangable is like the pinnacle of achievement as a woman and it would be ludicrous to not be flattered by any random man wanting them to put out
/r/seduction11/12/20 01:52 AM
5

Lmao so suddenly you’ve been elected to speak for most women? Bro why didn’t I get the group email. Congrats!
/r/seduction10/12/20 04:08 PM
1

If you want to hook up with her, let her know that. If she’s down for it, she’ll reciprocate. If she’s not looking for a hookup, she’ll be able to walk away.
/r/seduction10/12/20 03:43 PM
1

Honesty is the smoothest talk of all
/r/seduction10/12/20 01:11 AM
1

I understand what you’re saying and I agree false rape allegations are horrible but they are nothing compared to the pain that rape victims suffer. Rape is used as a weapon of war. Women kill themselves to avoid being raped. You saying they are comparable trivializes what so many of these people suffer. Sure men can view every interaction with women as a potential life sentence, but women view every interaction with men as a potential death sentence. People who are raped frequently take their ow…
/r/seduction24/11/20 01:13 AM
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Wow you can say with 100% certainty that as a man who has never experienced life as a woman you fear being accused of rape as much as women fear being raped. You must be famous in the sociology field for this startling insight. Do you not walk alone at night because you’re afraid strange women are going to jump out of alleys and accuse you of rape? Do you carry pepper spray or a weapon because you don’t know when a women looking for directions is going to drag you behind a dumpster and accuse yo…
/r/seduction23/11/20 07:00 AM
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You have no idea what you’re talking about. The men I’ve dated have admired my passion and drive to have a stable job and my own apartment and my ability to be emotionally stable enough to be happy without a man. They were awesome human beings. They weren’t so insecure that they need a woman to rely on them for everything. Honestly that’s predatory behavior because what you’re doing is making someone totally dependent on you. She can’t argue with you, say no to sex, even buy something she wants …
/r/seduction23/11/20 06:49 AM
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Don’t listen to this moron OP. There are plenty of stable men secure enough in their masculinity to not lose it when you have a job. If a guy is only after you for your body, run, because he will never stay. He’ll chase the next younger prettier woman. Look for men who want a partner not a body to fuck. A man who wants a woman who can be his equal not a woman who will never disagree with him and will cook him dinner and be his mom. I agree that kindness is something that attractive in both women…
/r/seduction23/11/20 04:43 AM
0

Ahh shut up you shallow sexist pig
/r/seduction23/11/20 03:12 AM
1

I disagree. Copying things you see in romance novels is as dangerous an idea as copying things you see in porn. Romance novels are written in a formula for the sole purpose of being entertaining. Don’t base your interactions with women on the belief that romance novel can tell you deep psychological secrets about women’s subconscious
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:33 PM
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You’re unhinged. The only thing funnier than your made up insults, is your giant fragile male ego. It’s okay “GrandMaster” I’m sure calling people slobs will hurt someone’s feelings sooner or later. You’re acting like I tracked you down across the internet to harass you. I’d honestly forgotten all about your insane hatred for me until you defended OP for being trash. I’m not insulted by a single thing you say because for an insult to hurt you actually have to care about the other person’s opinio…
/r/seduction22/11/20 03:26 PM
0

Blah blah blah. For a writer you sure have an ill command of the English language. I’m a writer too. I’ve been published and won awards. Trust me, it’s easy to make shit up. And my response to your moment of unhinged insanity was well over 50 words so it would be a Drabble, not a dribble. Guess your ability as a writer matches your ability as a conversationalist I read your post history because I was worried you were like 15 and I should back off because there was a reason you were so silly and …
/r/seduction22/11/20 07:28 AM
0

Lmao you think I’m emotional? Bro reread the childish tirade you just spewed at me. I know your fragile masculinity is intimidated my tall female form and you have to try somehow to feel all tough and shit, but you’d think with your super evolved male brain you could come up with better insults. Or at least insults that have a shred of truth to them. It’s like you just say the first crazy sentence that comes to you. You’re almost thirty years old and you name call like a tantrum throwing teenage…
/r/seduction22/11/20 06:48 AM
0

Aww go cry in your little self oppressed bubble you weirdo. You have no capacity for empathy or ability to understand others so it kinda looks like you’re the one with the disability not me. Instead of making a single remark on anything I said or admitting that your attack on me for calling OP trash cuz I’m a “radical man hating feminist” was you just projecting, you fixate on your ridiculous desire to say whatever the hell you want whenever the hell you want to whoever the hell you want. Callin…
/r/seduction22/11/20 05:26 AM
1

What did I say that was a double standard? If OP was a woman, she’s still be a piece of trash. Has nothing to do with his gender
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:24 AM
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Lmao im not a feminist. At least not in the way you define it. If you were a woman and had posted the same shit OP did I would still call it out. The behavior OP is exhibiting isn’t gender specific. You just got your little man feels hurt cuz I wouldn’t agree with your senseless defense of using derogatory words for no reason. You’re insane if you think me saying don’t call women sluts is infringing on your free speech. Again, you’re putting words in my mouth. I never said OP couldn’t do any of …
/r/seduction22/11/20 04:23 AM
5

Chill bro. You asked her about COVID restrictions not completed a hostage negotiation
/r/seduction18/11/20 09:23 PM
0

What did I take out of context? Men have biological responses to hormones as well. That what hormones do. Nothing I said was semantic. You would never tell a woman to ignore what a man was saying because he might be all hormonal because of his emotions. I didn’t put any words in your mouth. Your first comment outright sounds like the intro to a “she was asking for it” defense of assault. No means no. No matter how much you want to think someone saying no is really saying yes or “asking for it” i…
/r/seduction18/11/20 05:48 AM
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Yes, I’m very aware that men can be feminine. Thanks for mansplaining that with your giant logical man brain. Your post had nothing to do with being feminine. You told OP to stop listening to what the girl was saying because you think her interaction with him is based solely on her emotions rather than anything else. It’s sexist to consider femininity as emotional and masculinity as logical. Don’t ignore what people say to you because you think they’re projecting feminine energy which is emotion…
/r/seduction18/11/20 01:22 AM
2

Don’t send people unsolicited nudes
/r/seduction18/11/20 12:41 AM
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Wow it’s a sexist creep in the wild! Quick everyone take a mental picture
/r/seduction18/11/20 12:31 AM
0

Why not? If its the truth then she's gotta face it some time. Implying that this wasn’t just OP not being attracted to her and there is some great underlying “truth” to why he rejected her. Its something that will eventually catch up to her. The earlier it does, the better. Implying that other men won’t find her attractive either and she needs to fix something to be considered attractive. If it’s just that he’s not feeling it, what do you think is going to catch up to her? Her being delusional f…
/r/seduction23/10/20 07:03 PM
4

Yeah, I get being playful, but his example wasn’t. To be playful, you have to acknowledge what you did and then put a fun spin on it. Also, he’s completely ignoring why this girl is asking OP why he’s grilling her. He’s coming on way to strong or he hasn’t made his intentions clear. Blowing her question off by whining that it’s a free country and then demanding more answers to random questions like “you don’t smoke do you?” is not going to be “game” to a girl with a shred of self respect. If I w…
/r/seduction23/10/20 02:11 PM
1

Okay and? I don’t get your point. You said she was being delusional about how attractive she is, and my point was that just because OP doesn’t find her attractive doesn’t mean she isn’t. What makes you think OP is a raging stud who has the final say in how pretty this girl is? It’s fine that he doesn’t find her attractive, but when he rejects her, he doesn’t have to say, I like you but you’re too ugly. That’s unnecessary.
/r/seduction23/10/20 02:01 PM
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I despise men who do this. Like saying “it’s a free country” is the same petty immature bullshit kids say to each other when one makes a valid point and the other doesn’t have the brain capacity to respond. There’s a difference between being clever/playful and being stupid/immature
/r/seduction23/10/20 04:40 AM
1

Just because OP doesn’t find her attractive doesn’t mean she’s not attractive. She’s just not attractive to him. You don’t have to tell someone you think they’re ugly when you reject them.
/r/seduction23/10/20 03:26 AM
1

No thats not how sex or consent works. Both parties have the right to decide if they want to be casual or not.
/r/seduction22/10/20 11:15 PM
1

Just because you’re not ready for a relationship doesn’t mean those who are are goofy. Being judgmental isn’t going to attract women
/r/seduction22/10/20 04:07 PM
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Well I don’t agree with generalizing like that but at least you’re consistent
/r/seduction12/10/20 06:48 PM
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Don’t make generalizations like that based off of one person. Would you agree that 90% of guys on dating apps are just looking to screw based on one interaction?
/r/seduction12/10/20 06:05 PM
4

So, liberals aren’t allowed on this sub? You’ve decided that mods should just ban all liberal women because they don’t agree with you? Just because you don’t agree with someone’s advice doesn’t mean it’s bad or wrong. You’re shutting down conversation because you seem threatened by women who speak their mind and don’t drop their panties the second you act all “Alpha”
/r/seduction07/10/20 12:35 AM
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I mean you are bothering them. Just don’t sexually harass or assault them and I’m sure the feminist movement won’t come to your house in the middle of the night.
/r/seduction06/10/20 11:21 PM
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Or maybe it’s your attitude that makes them rude. You get what you give buddy
/r/seduction24/09/20 03:34 PM
1

And to that I replied “some men are only nice to get their way and be perceived in a good light” ie the infamous nice guys you’re defending. Some PEOPLE use being nice as an excuse to act trashy when others don’t respond the way they want. Your original post is all about how all women are manipulative and only nice to take food from poor innocent nice guys. You’re a man. You’ve never experienced what it’s like to be a woman and have men do things for me, that I never asked for, and then get mad …
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:40 PM
0

You’re not open to talk either. You’re reply to me was “read my post again” that’s not conversation. Since you decided to dig through my post history instead of focusing on the matter at hand which is your post. Yes, a man I hadn’t seen in person before got into my car with his gun. He never asked me if I was okay with that or anything. If I’m judgmental for being scared when someone brings a gun on a date. I’m fine with that. But thanks for judging me based on one incident. I can see what a sai…
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:17 PM
3

That is what you said honey bun. I read through that silly ideology a couple times to make sure I wasn’t dreaming and you actually believe what you’re saying. Read what I said again.
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:08 PM
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You’re acting like women don’t want men to do good things for the sake of being good. This is exactly what we want. Too many men are nice for the sake of getting laid. I’m all for people being nice and doing better. You however sound bitter about the fact that you can’t be nice and get women to fawn over you because of it. Women are complicated. Men are complicated. Rushing to angsty over-generalizations of an entire gender doesn’t give you credibility.
/r/seduction23/09/20 03:03 PM
1

Yeah, this guy had obviously never met men from a woman’s perspective. We don’t think men are nice to us to get something we know it. It happens all the time and when we don’t give it, they get pissy. I’m not sure why he thinks ALL women are manipulative and narcissistic but I’ll take a guess it has something to do with him being a nice guy. It’s hilarious that he’s being a stereotypical nice guy right now and doesn’t even realize it.
/r/seduction23/09/20 02:58 PM
2

Now you’re putting words in my mouth. I never said to tell women who are in abusive relationships that they’re doing the right thing staying with these people. I took issue with you saying “the ONE person responsible” for getting abused is the women being abused. They aren’t doing anything wrong. Men don’t just walk up to you and say “I’m an abuser. Let me hurt you” they are manipulative and often these women really care about them. I never said they should keep doing it. I said instead of blami…
/r/seduction21/09/20 03:27 AM
1

Maybe worry about finding someone who would marry you before worrying about getting a mistress. And entering a marriage with the mindset of “you’re not going to be enough” isn’t very sexy or productive to her saying yes.
/r/seduction21/09/20 02:28 AM
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And that’s where we differ. You want to focus on blaming the victim for their bad choices when they are stuck in a cycle of abuse and mistreatment. I think we should be focusing that same energy on getting the abusers to change their behavior. You’re acting like getting out of a cycle of abuse is as easy as a little self reflection. Many of these people have grown up and lived with abuse their entire lives. They need help and compassion to get them to be able to recognize the trap they’re stuck …
/r/seduction21/09/20 01:58 AM
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Shush little incel. Don’t say a word. Imma go and buy you a teddy bear If you can’t figure out how to fuck the teddy, I’m sure one of your bros can help you out. make good choices sweetie
/r/seduction20/09/20 05:14 PM
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I gave you a link which you obviously didn’t read. Blaming people for getting abused is trashy because the person who is doing the abusing is the one at fault. Your argument is like saying don’t put murderers in jail cuz it was the victims fault they got killed. It’s okay incel bro I know you have a hard time coming up with sources outside of “I hate women so believe what I say”
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:55 PM
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Hey, I agree that the cycle of abuse is hard to break. You responded to my comment asking how: ”The reality is that in a lot of these cases there is one person responsible for all of this woman's failed relationships, and it isn't any of the guys she's dated” is victim blaming and it’s because you’re placing the blame for the bad choices on the woman how has been mistreated for being with an abusive partner rather than blaming the partner for being abusive.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:51 PM
1

Lmao “dark triad” I didn’t realize you were an incel bro. Only an incel would cite Disney as a source when making an argument. You must be SO complex with the mental gymnastics you do to justify your hatred of women. Your delusional cult told you “women bad” so you’re chugging around online spewing your toxic ideologies like you’re the second coming of Stephen Hawking or something. Keep your trashy, hateful opinions to yourself
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:48 PM
1

So, how is it their fault then?
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:38 PM
0

Abusers don’t just walk up to someone and say “hey, I’m an abuser” they’re manipulative, charismatic, and abusive. But keep defending them. I’m glad you’re letting everyone know you’re an abuser apologist.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:37 PM
1

I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Are you defending abusers cuz they had a rough childhood or saying that people that the abusers go after are stuck getting abused?
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:34 PM
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Do you know what the definition of victim blaming is? It’s blaming someone who has been harmed by someone else’s actions. Right now you’re victim blaming. https://psychology.iresearchnet.com/social-psychology/social-cognition/blaming-the-victim/ Here’s an interesting article to start your foray into why victim blaming is trashy.
/r/seduction20/09/20 04:31 PM
1

Would you give this same advice to women who are approached by the men on this sub? No OP isn’t obliged to “manage other people’s feelings” but if a woman went through the trouble of telling him she liked him, he should have the human decency to respond with understanding and not be a dick about it.
/r/seduction20/09/20 02:13 PM
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The reality is that in a lot of these cases there is one person responsible for all of this woman's failed relationships, and it isn't any of the guys she's dated. Wow did you just victim blame women who have been physically and emotionally abused? Guess you didn’t lose the asshole once you got in a relationship.
/r/seduction20/09/20 02:09 PM
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Do it how you would want someone to reject you. Be kind, but honest and don’t leave any room for misunderstandings. I think it’s better to error on the side of slightly mean but very clear, than to give them any hope that you will change your mind.
/r/seduction20/09/20 03:19 AM
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You aren’t in the head space to be with a girlfriend. No women wants to date someone who’s bitter and angry. You say your social anxiety is not your fault, but what have you done to manage it? Stop focusing on what others have. Jealously is not attractive. If seeing two people together and happy ruins your day, maybe it’s time to see a professional.
/r/seduction19/09/20 05:59 AM
8

If not being able to have sex is damaging your mental health, I think you have bigger problems. Basing your happiness and health on other people isn’t healthy.
/r/seduction17/09/20 12:24 AM
1

What exactly am I being like? What is this realization we all supposedly went through? That women, like men, don’t usually save sex until marriage anymore? OP is 30 years old. If he’s really never come to the realization that people outside of his family and religion don’t view sex in the same way, telling that that’s normal isn’t going to help him. It’s not normal. The fairy tales i was told as a child were about little red riding hood.
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:39 PM
1

It sucks that your family and your church lied to you like that. Since you’ve moved away, I’d suggest going to see a professional about this. You sound really hurt for something that a lot of us take for granted.
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:34 PM
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OP is 30 years old and he thought this girl he hasn’t even bothered to ask on a date was “saving” herself for him. He doesn’t think he can be friends with her solely because she’s had sex before. He isn’t okay. That isn’t normal. He should look into getting professional help.
/r/seduction15/09/20 06:32 PM
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First off: it really don’t be like that. Secondly: I didn’t say anything hateful.
/r/seduction15/09/20 05:44 PM
1

Let me get this straight. You’re hurt because she was having sex with other guys when you two aren’t even dating?
/r/seduction15/09/20 05:35 PM
1

Unless what you wrote was horrific in some way, don’t unsend messages. What you said usually can’t be worse than what she can imagine it said. Unless it was offense, insulting or in someway really bad don’t unsend. In real life conversations you can’t take back something you said so it’s better to get used to it now rather than when you’re face to face with her.
/r/seduction14/09/20 03:43 PM
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Just because a woman smiles at you and then turns away doesn’t mean she’s shy. She could just be friendly and happy and continuing to look at you would just be weird.
/r/seduction12/09/20 04:22 PM
1

Well then you have two options. She’s lying to you or your friends are lying to you. If she had a awful first time, it’s completely possible that she doesn’t want to talk about it and lied to her “friends” to avoid questions or having to think about it. If she’s lying about it, it might be she doesn’t want you to think she’s inexperienced or she’s just weird or playing some game. Y’all are really young. Maybe try talking to her about it when you’re not in bed together?
/r/seduction08/09/20 10:53 PM
2

Maybe she thinks you’re creepy because you ogle other women while in a relationship.
/r/seduction08/09/20 10:46 PM
7

Well aren’t you a little ray of sunshine
/r/seduction08/09/20 05:01 AM
5

Wow she told you she had a traumatic experience during sex and your solution is to call her a liar? The trauma isn’t going to just magically go away because you “comforted” her. It’s going to take time and patience and you pushing constantly for sex every time she sleeps with you probably isn’t helping. Instead of asking Reddit, ask her what you can do to make her more comfortable.
/r/seduction07/09/20 07:27 PM
1

so your wife divorces you and you think it's a good idea to break down in the middle of a work presentation? No of course not. There’s a difference between being above your emotions and having control over them. It is healthy to control and restrain your emotions. I don’t believe this is completely true. It will let us keep our job sure, but “controlling” emotions AKA bottling them up and never letting them out or addressing them isn’t healthy. Being consumed by your emotions isn’t healthy eithe…
/r/seduction06/09/20 02:45 PM
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No no, i dont think being above emotions. It is about controlling them. This is talking about lets say war. You cant be weak and let emotions guide you if you are in warfare. Lol did you edit it out of your post or am I just going crazy? I could’ve sworn you said something about being above your emotions... Even if you didn’t say that, I again disagree. A lot of people who have been in war tell stories about no leaving a friend behind, or comforting a dying enemy solider, or fighting to stay ali…
/r/seduction06/09/20 01:42 PM
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This isn’t necessarily true. Being above your emotions doesn’t sound healthy. You have those feelings for a reason. I also think it’s a little toxic to suggest that women need a man to lead them. Women are completely capable of making their own rational decisions and cutting off their own zombie heads. The obsession with leadership ignores the fact that she’s your equal and she doesn’t need someone to show her what to do as much as someone who will work through it WITH her.
/r/seduction06/09/20 01:19 PM
5

My eyes glazed over at some point but hey at least I now know that women are complex and don’t like younger men.
/r/seduction05/09/20 04:00 AM
5

I’m so glad you’re here to tell women that they don’t really know what they want and to tell them what they should want.
/r/seduction03/09/20 06:27 PM
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Yeah, this has happened to me so many times that now I just glare right back at them until they look away. Eye contact is great if it’s during a conversation and flirty, but outright staring at people you’re not talking to is impolite and weird.
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:25 PM
2

About what....?
/r/seduction01/09/20 02:24 AM
3

I have problems too that I am aware of and accept. The difference, where you seem to become proud of them, is where you loudly proclaim it and then give others advice on how to be like you. There’s a difference between hiding behind a mask just to please people and realizing you’re just making excuses for bad behavior. I’m not hiding behind a mask. I get that I’m not perfect and I’m willing to change and grow. You’re stuck in the idea that you’re perfect the way you are, and my problem with that…
/r/seduction01/09/20 12:01 AM
2

Lol you’re still salty about that? I don’t get why you’re proud of being manipulative. It’s not a character trait many people find admirable. Taking advantage of someone who is emotionally vulnerable isn’t cool.
/r/seduction31/08/20 10:42 PM
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If someone tells you they’re sad or that their dog died or that they lost their job and you say back with “hey i understand you’re going through some things, but i’m not the best person to talk to about it. can we chat about something else” that’s a dick move. Just because you want to sleep with them, doesn’t make their feelings any less valid or you being needlessly cruel to them any less trashy. How about: stop treating every interaction with a woman like a game you need to win and instead tre…
/r/seduction31/08/20 07:56 PM
8

Wow that’s a dick statement if ever I saw one
/r/seduction31/08/20 05:52 PM
2

Because she thought they were FRIENDS
/r/seduction31/08/20 04:30 PM
1

OP isn’t looking for a relationship. He’s looking for “throwaway” girls to play games on. If you’re too nervous to approach women, talk to guys. This obviously isn’t just about his social skills. Life is full of consequences. If you learn early to take responsibility for your actions and live with the consequences, you’ll be better off.
/r/seduction30/08/20 05:46 AM
2

Treating human beings like trash so you can practice silly pick up “games” is a common problem?
/r/seduction30/08/20 05:20 AM
1

You’re welcome :)
/r/seduction30/08/20 12:32 AM
1

Asshole definition: a stupid, annoying, or detestable person. Manipulative definition: serving or intended to control or influence others in an artful and often unfair or selfish way. You are both. Thanks.
/r/seduction29/08/20 09:15 PM
1

Okay here’s a better analogy. You have a co-worker that you want to con into doing your job for you. You see your co-worker doing something innocent like typing up a report and you say to them “are you typing up that report because you want to do my work?” If they say no, you’re gonna go “well I didn’t want you to anyway. It’s like you think you can do my job or something” Don’t you see how manipulative and silly that is? At least you admit you’re intentionally trying to be an asshole. Have a li…
/r/seduction29/08/20 07:15 PM
2

In my experience it’s still childish and silly so I guess we just have different experiences. And just because something “works” doesn’t mean it’s a decent thing to do. I could hold a gun to someone’s head and tell them to give me their money and then claim that it “works”
/r/seduction29/08/20 01:55 PM
2

Why do so many guys think this is so smooth? It’s not playful or joking, it’s weird and makes the situation awkward. If you want to kiss her, ask her. You’re forcing your sexual advances onto her and then demanding she defend herself. It’s childish and gross in my opinion and kills my attraction to that guy.
/r/seduction29/08/20 04:28 AM
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I totally agree with this. Guys that can’t keep their car clean and running usually have an even more disaster area of a living space. Sure, expensive cars are cool, but its just a car.
/r/seduction28/08/20 09:43 PM
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If girls look for a serious relationship, they put these comments into the pervert bin and ignore us guys. At least that's my experience until now and the things female friends told me. This is because all you seem to care about is her body. It’s not that you’re a pervert, it’s that you seem hyper fixated on talking about her looks. If she thinks you’re good looking too and just wants to hook up that’s fine. I can’t tell if you’re trying to find a relationship or not. Now, here comes being bold.…
/r/seduction28/08/20 02:51 PM
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There are a ton of women that don’t care about makeup, clothes or fashion. All women are different. Ask her what she’s in to and then talk about that.
/r/seduction27/08/20 11:04 PM
3

If that’s your outlook, I can’t help you. You blew off her question so she’s blowing off yours. There isn’t anything wrong with a shred of honesty.
/r/seduction26/08/20 03:58 PM
2

You already screwed up. She told you twice that she’s looking for someone who is also looking for something serious and you turned it into a joke and asked her if she liked adventure. At least you couldn’t been honest and told her you aren’t looking for a serious relationship.
/r/seduction26/08/20 03:45 PM
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http://www.spsp.org/news-center/press-releases/collisson-foodie-calls Here is the actual study rather than a random screen shot. According to the study around 23-33% of the study participants said they went out with a guy they didn’t like for a free meal. The study also says: It is important to note, however, that neither of these studies recruited representative samples of women, so we cannot know if these percentages are accurate for women in general. So, this study isn’t the end all be all of…
/r/seduction25/08/20 10:13 PM
1

Why am I at the bar? If it’s just to hang out and have fun with my friends then no I wouldn’t care. If I was looking to hook up with the hottest guy here then yes. If I was looking to date someone I probably wouldn’t be in a bar because those relationships don’t seem to turn out well. You say the guys weren’t good looking but you’re “decent looking” so maybe it’s something other than your looks that’s driving women away. Maybe don’t base your confidence on how many woman are “begging for you”
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:53 PM
1

What don’t I understand? You’re measuring success with women by how many are throwing themselves at you and equating that with appreciation in dating. You said you wanted to feel appreciated once and awhile and I’m pointing out you’ve narrowed the window for appreciation so much that it’s more like a keyhole than a window.
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:41 PM
1

Why are you dating people that only care how attractive you are? Dating involves more than looks. What you’re talking about is hookups.
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:28 PM
1

Yeah so it’s more of a validation of your attractiveness than an appreciation of who you are. You said what other “real way” can a woman show appreciation, and I gave you a couple examples.
/r/seduction25/08/20 03:05 PM
1

Maybe I’m not getting what you mean by appreciation. The way I see it, it doesn’t have to only happen at one point. Appreciation can be someone telling you they admire your goals or your drive or thanking you for the good time you had together. Appreciation isn’t inherently visual.
/r/seduction25/08/20 02:03 PM
0

Lmao if you really believe that I can’t help you. I’m assuming you’re using “you” to mean all women and not just specifically me which is both ridiculous but to claim that you know I’m using men for free meals when I’m perfectly capable of and do buy my own food is beyond silly. I don’t know why that’s the first thing guys like you come up with. Like what do you think is so intriguing about a free meal? Food isn’t that expense that I’d waste time tricking a guy into thinking I liked him just so …
/r/seduction25/08/20 01:56 PM
1

That response wasn’t directed at you but rather the user you were talking to who called them whores. It’s fine to feel disappointed that no one hits on you. It’s kind of sad that you think getting hit on is the only type of appreciation. Just remember it’s not as much fun when it’s someone you don’t see that way.
/r/seduction25/08/20 04:18 AM
1

So, they’re whores for hitting on men they find attractive? Doesn’t that make OP a whore too then? Why are you so offended?
/r/seduction24/08/20 08:33 PM
1

I’m confused about what it is you want. You talk about wanting to just have fun, about finding someone who will treat you right, about FWB, about “real” men. A fuckboy is not going to “treat you right” because he’s just there for the sex. You need to form a clearer idea of why it is you’re looking for and be able to communicate it to them and walk away if they don’t measure up. Yes, there are a ton of guys just looking for sex AKA fuckboys on dating apps. There are also a ton of just normal guys…
/r/seduction24/08/20 02:50 PM
0

See it’s ideas like this that turn women off of getting approached by guys. Don’t screw around with people just so you can practice your “game”
/r/seduction24/08/20 02:35 PM
4

Just remember that it’s her job to be nice to costumers. When I worked in the service industry I smiled at everyone and laughed at any dumb joke someone made because if I didn’t my manager would get on my case.
/r/seduction22/08/20 07:39 PM
2

Don’t start off asking big life changing questions. A lot of introverted women I know don’t like sharing passions and goals and deep beliefs with someone they just met. Talk about things she has fun doing. Memes, movies, quilting. Things you both can joke about and find common ground. Don’t be boring. Introverted people lose their minds talking to boring people. If you’re going to engage don’t ask one question and then expect her to just keep talking. Show interest and enthusiasm or she’ll think…
/r/seduction22/08/20 04:36 PM
1

And I told you bro. She doesn’t want you to make her talk about her day. She obviously wants to know more about YOU.
/r/seduction19/08/20 04:26 PM
1

I problem is you don’t seem to understand the point of the texting stage for women. You think she’s cute and want to hook up. You’re not worried that she’s a serial killer or a lunatic. You see it as an obstacle to get through as fast as you can. You think there’s a magic combination of words you say so you can get in her pants. She wouldn’t have said “I need to get to know you a little more” if she wanted you to get her to talk about herself.
/r/seduction19/08/20 05:17 AM
1

Yes there are women that like to talk about their day, but a lot of other women hate being asked “how was your day” It’s boring and comes off as lazy. It’s like asking hru? or what’s up? The effort feels nonexistent and it leads to one word answers.
/r/seduction19/08/20 02:49 AM
1

Just seems like a bad example. You said you guys were getting on fine and her “friend” told you she thought you looked “easy” and “talkative.” I’m still trying to figure out how the girl you came onto treated you like crap in this situation.
/r/seduction18/08/20 02:17 PM
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Lol for not giving a damn or thinking about her again you sure just made an entire post about her.
/r/seduction18/08/20 05:34 AM
1

It’s honestly a bit of a dick move to hit on someone at their job. Not really directed at OP since he just gave her his number, but at the users saying he should’ve talked to her. She has to serve you. She can’t just walk away. Have a little respect for someone’s who’s just trying to do their job.
/r/seduction18/08/20 02:26 AM
1

Yeah no.
/r/seduction18/08/20 02:18 AM
2

If they’re only bringing up that they have a boyfriend after you ask them out, it’s highly likely it’s because they have a boyfriend and you just asked them out.
/r/seduction18/08/20 02:16 AM
1

Who said women like men that don’t care what people think? You? Refusing to listen to others say if they are in a position to make that critique about you is childish and arrogant. I don’t understand when and where women are teaching men to be not confident, competitive, ambitions ect. There are plenty of areas in life where those traits are admirable and respected.
/r/seduction17/08/20 12:02 AM
1

I did read your post. You said that toddlers were the purest form of masculinity and when female teachers taught them manners and societal do’s and don’t’s they were “pruning” the kids masculinity. In your example, you say Kyle isn’t a people pleaser but siting still when necessary and saying please and thank you are not people pleasing. It’s basic human decency. What I am referring to is not raping and pillaging, but being confident in who you are, standing up for yourself and what you believe …
/r/seduction16/08/20 11:57 PM
0

When you look at male toddlers, you essentially see masculinity in its purest form. It’s wild sometimes, it’s competitive, it’s energetic, exciting, unfiltered, fun etc. But if you really think about it those aspects of boys are pruned from a very young age by mothers and by female teachers. Sit down, do your work, don’t talk, treat me like this, don’t say this, etc. This sounds like the “boys will be boys” argument. Teaching boys to have manners and instilling in them a work ethic isn’t “prunin…
/r/seduction16/08/20 06:13 PM
2

So, you’re beyond good enough? I don’t understand how this changes my point. It’s great that you’ve put so much work into yourself and you have every right to be proud of it, but it doesn’t change the fact that you don’t inherently “deserve” someone. No one does. I didn’t mean to assume that you’d given up. That was just the vibe I got from your post/response. I've approached literal thousands of women of all different shapes, sizes, personality, status, level of attractiveness you name it. What…
/r/seduction16/08/20 08:13 AM
4

I didn’t say it was a prize to be won. OP seemed to feel that the men she was dating left her because she wasn’t “enjoying” their attention and her friends were telling her to be more open to sleeping with random men. She also mentioned that the men became less interested in her after she did things like have sex. A lot of men who are just looking for sex are not looking for a relationship. My point was that hooking up is not going to get her into a relationship. A woman does not get to have a "…
/r/seduction16/08/20 07:42 AM
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Hooking up with a guy because you think he’ll want to be in a relationship with you afterward is a really bad idea.
/r/seduction16/08/20 06:42 AM
3

There is nothing wrong with having self confidence. Having respect for yourself is important and admirable. However, you say you “deserve more than someone who has an actual shitty personality and doesn't take care of themselves at all, but thanks for needlessly insulting me.” Firstly, you don’t deserve anyone’s love or attention. Those things are earned and you appear unwilling to put more effort in because you believe you’ve hit the good enough the way you are point and it’s now womens’ fault.…
/r/seduction16/08/20 06:28 AM
4

Instead of putting the blame on the women who don’t want you, take a look at yourself. Maybe women find you as ugly, boring, obnoxious and aimless as the women you think you’re better than. Just because you think you’re “better quality” or in someone else’s “league” doesn’t mean women agree with you. Your questions are all about “why are women so unfair to me?” instead of “what am I doing wrong that women are avoiding and ghosting me?”
/r/seduction16/08/20 05:00 AM
2

Maybe she isn’t social. Maybe she has really bad social anxiety. She doesn’t owe you an explanation about why she isn’t in the mood to put up with your little dog and pony show. She didn’t call you names or yell at you or do anything “bitchy” beyond giving you terse replies. Talking to you at all was human decency. Where’s the human decency is calling a woman who rejected your approach bitchy?
/r/seduction14/08/20 12:05 AM
2

Okay brah. When you were working at the pharmacy you were being paid to give good customer service and smile and be polite. It doesn’t sound like you paid this woman to put up with you unwanted sexual advances. You say you did it for practice, but what does she get out of if? Some people struggle more with depression or anxiety. It isn’t up to you to decide how valid their problems are. Life isn’t a competition to see who has the worse problems and discredit everyone else. She DOESN’T owe you an…
/r/seduction13/08/20 11:59 PM
1

You say you don’t want to be the “second choice” but that excludes like 90% of the college girl population. If you’re looking for a virgin, going after the girls who attract hot guys is never going to work. Just because a woman has sex with you after having sex with another guy doesn’t make you a “second choice” She chose you in that moment. According to your logic everyone but someone’s first is a second choice. Girls looking to hookup give “easy sex” to guys they find attractive. You want “eas…
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:48 AM
3

So, why did you push her when it was obvious she didn’t appreciate your advances? Especially since she didn’t take her earbuds out right away and told you she was fed up. It sounds like she was having a bad day and wanted to be left alone. Just because she was annoyed doesn’t mean she was on her period. You don’t know what shit she could’ve been going through, and she was still polite enough to talk to you instead of ignoring you. Anyone can have a bad day.
/r/seduction13/08/20 06:11 AM
1

Lol you first. When you stop being so egotistical and petty come find me. Otherwise, I’m done. Peace out, you giant flaming garbage pile of sexist shit.
/r/seduction13/08/20 12:16 AM
1

Go back and read the conversation again. Yes, I had a point and I was trying to have a debate with you. If you don’t know how to debate, maybe take some classes or something. I am not ranting, I am not emotionally, I did insult you but so did you so get down off your high horse. For having nothing to prove you sure are angry and nasty about it. Just because your life and debates are pointless doesn’t mean you should brag about it. Get help.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:53 PM
1

I have been debating you and every time I answer your ridiculous charges you ignore my answers and go off in other random tangents. I’ve answered everyone of those questions before. I’m not going to repeat them. This isn’t a debate. This is you trying to feel tough because you think calling a person on the internet a classic PC feminist victim makes you in some way right or better than me. Get help.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:30 PM
1

You need help buddy.
/r/seduction12/08/20 11:14 PM
1

I ain’t gonna try to guess what your definition of reverence is. I’m not mad. You’re mad. You’re trying to push me around and silence me. I never said women are victims. You said that. If you want answers to your other dumb questions go back and read my other replies again cuz I’m not going to keep typing it out. I’m not silencing anyone. How is using the word slut empowering lol. You do realize how insane that sounds right? Poor GrandMasterB19 oppressed and powerless because I asked him to stop…
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:30 PM
1

No you have reverence for femininity when it’s predictable, un-offended by anything you say. You love women that follow your rules. You love your definition of feminine.
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:27 PM
1

Just keep hating the women you emulate that’s what your type does best. I was perfectly willing to have a civil discussion with you but you made it perfectly clear you weren’t going to listen to a thing I said and just wanted to insult me. Do better.
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:11 PM
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Since you seem to be batshit as well we won’t be believing a word you say either then. Your grandiose opinion of yourself is disgusting. I think you try very hard to compete with the girls even though you're highly unaware of it. I told you, I used to hang out with sexist men and advocate for their cause. I stopped that shit when I realized how terribly sick people like you were fucking healthy men up. Nothing epic about it. I just understand where you're coming from
/r/seduction12/08/20 04:04 PM
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And in my reality you and the word you used are sexist. I’m still gonna call you out on it. Lmao this is my favorite part of your argument. It’s cute that you think I admire anything about your so-called ability to have a discussion. You make this sound like some kind of epic video game. “I was once on your side. I understand the game you play. I was saved by my own glorious wisdom. I can show you true knowledge” blah blah blah. I know you think you’re being witty and satirical but insecure sexi…
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:50 PM
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Dude for someone who really doesn’t care you spewed out quite the text wall of hate. You can say you’re not sexist all you want. Try to manifest it into reality. It can also help if you squint or close one eye. Just because I think you’re stupid doesn’t mean I hate you. I emulate the dumb things you do to show you how dumb they are but I guess that went over your head. Let’s be real: a lot of the stuff I said went over your head because you went into defensive mode the second I asked if you were…
/r/seduction12/08/20 03:22 PM
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Lol sounds like you’re the one with a victim complex. “Hates men and masculinity” um what does not using sexist words have to do with that? Sounded like you just equated masculinity with sexism. Someone’s a little toxic. It’s okay to admit you’re sexist. There are therapists that can help you through it. Or are you too strong and manly for a therapist? I particularly enjoy the fact that you lost your knickers when I called you sexist for a comment you made and now you’re calling me a fanatical z…
/r/seduction12/08/20 05:04 AM
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I’m not emotional. I’m not angry. I’m calm and cool as a cucumber. Goes on a tirade about how I’m a random fanatical PC zealot. You keep telling yourself that. Maybe one day you’ll believe it. Go read some more DMs from women who call you the savior of the world. That should be even funnier. Calling someone out on sexist language has nothing to do with being insecure. I love how you keep saying it’s been real and keep it real. It makes me feel like you’re about to say something with actual subst…
/r/seduction12/08/20 01:22 AM
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No need to get your PC feelings all butthurt. What would you call this other than an attack? If me saying ‘sexist much’ qualifies as “losing it” your defensive, snide comment counts as an attack. Let me spell it out for you since you seem to be so inept: All of the drivel that follows this line is your opinion. Do some research. Slut is an objectively sexist term to everyone whose head isn’t stuck in the past like yours is. Your ill-logic is all over the place. The ways you try to prove your poi…
/r/seduction12/08/20 12:27 AM
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I didn't use the word in a derogatory sense. For the millionth time. The word itself is derogatory. I understand how you thought you were using it but it still is offensive. The word itself may be technically true, but that doesn’t stop it from being a sexist word. I used it as an adjective to describe a woman who lives a particular lifestyle. There are a bunch of other words (ie “player”) that you could’ve used to get the same point across. This isn't addressed towards any person in particular …
/r/seduction11/08/20 08:49 PM
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First off, I didn’t mean for you to interpret that as me saying calling a woman a slut is on the same level as using the N word. Because "women can say slut because black people can say nygga" is some of the most dumbass bullshit logic I've ever heard in my life. Again, you think you explain a fault in my logic by just saying it’s “bullshit” that doesn’t mean anything. You're just calling things sexist that you don't like because you're offended It’s not just me that doesn’t like that word. You’…
/r/seduction11/08/20 02:37 PM
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Yeah, I got that part. I was talking about the part where he said he knew women secretly love attention from guys they even find remotely attractive. There’s a difference between enjoying sex and stuff and the idea of enjoying all attention from men you find even remotely attractive.
/r/seduction10/08/20 10:12 PM
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I appreciate the point you’re trying to make with this post, but don’t claim you know what women are secretly thinking.
/r/seduction10/08/20 08:27 PM
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Wow again with the ad hominem attacks. Calling me names doesn’t invalidate my point. But hey I’m so insulted you called me a white knight. It’s almost like you thought that would hurt my feelings or something.
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:51 PM
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But my standards aren’t illogical. You just don’t like them. You keep saying they’re illogical but won’t explain why. I’ve told you a million times the logic behind why “slut” is a sexist term and you shouldn’t use it. You just like to say ridiculous bullshit and pretend you don’t get what I’m saying. This might be some of the dumbest "logic" I've ever seen on the internet, and that's saying A LOT. Okay I’m going to let you in on a little secret. When you’re having a discussion with someone and …
/r/seduction10/08/20 01:48 PM
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That’s like saying black people cant use the N word among themselves. No, I don’t think women should use the word to describe themselves or others; however, it’s their call and maybe they’re just trying to reclaim a word historically used derogatorily by men. I think the philosophy that using that word automatically makes someone sexist and disrespectful towards women's sexuality is something that you made up, and I'm not buying into it. Like I said before. Since you don’t seem to have the great…
/r/seduction10/08/20 02:04 AM
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Sure you may not be sexist 24-7 but calling women a sexist derogatory term made you sexist in this case. I’m past trying to convince you of it; I’m just telling you you are. Let's be real: You called me a sexist because I used a word you didn't like. And you're so PC drunk you can't let it go. This is like feminist-trolling at it's finest. Let’s be real: you called me a feminist troll because I called you out on your bullshit behavior and you didn’t like it. You’re so non-PC drunk you can’t let …
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:44 AM
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Calling a woman a slut is sexist. You can say it’s not but it is. I reread your comment and yes I did mistakenly think you called yourself a player. My bad. However, if you would have just called the woman you insulted a player as well, I never would have called you out on your sexist language. Holy fucking shitballs! Chill out bro. Don’t get your edgy knickers in a bind. Maybe this isn't some abstract attack on women's sexuality after all? The feminism lecture has been real, but don't you have …
/r/seduction10/08/20 12:19 AM
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Again, you’re the one that’s angry. If you can say I’m being obnoxiously self-righteous, I can call you a sexist jerk. You're defining my entire character as a man based on me using one little word that got you triggered and offended. I’m not “triggered” dude. I’m mildly insulted on the behalf of the women you verbally degraded. YOU are the one that's being judgmental here. How would you like me to tell you you’re doing something wrong? Yes, I made the judgement that your use of the term “slutty…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:54 PM
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Believe it or not, I'm actually a bit more aware than you would like to give me credit for. I actually understand the nuances and the context of the words being used here. Okay, so you realize you’re being a sexist jerk and you just don’t care? The difference between me and you is that I'm not on a self-righteous soapbox right now lecturing people how to think and talk. I don't have qualms about my political incorrectness, you do. I’m not being self-righteous. I am right. You just admitted you r…
/r/seduction09/08/20 11:26 PM
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Lol given your vitriolic response you sound like the one who’s butthurt. But if you want to have an objective discussion about internalized sexism, let's talk about how you choose to use "you guys" as a euphemism for all men rather than addressing me directly when you have a personal problem with my word choice. Okay, let’s have this discussion. It may come as a shock to you, but “you guys” is often used as a general, gender-less term to mean a group of people one is addressing. I didn’t realize…
/r/seduction09/08/20 10:52 PM
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I love how you guys call women who have a lot of sex slutty and guys that do are “players.” Sexist much?
/r/seduction09/08/20 06:38 PM
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Later that week. Most women don’t just walk around waiting for guys to hit on them and take them on dates. She’s probably busy.
/r/seduction09/08/20 05:49 PM
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Bro.... I’m not going to continue arguing with you. In neither of these these examples do the women you’re hitting on appear to have boyfriends. You seem to be from a different country so maybe we’re just not understanding each other. First story: a female friend sets you up. Big deal. You’re not cold approaching her at all. Second story: yeah.... Your stories sound more like you bragging than actually telling anyone anything useful. Peace out man.
/r/seduction07/08/20 10:29 PM
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My style is completely different from this. When I approach someone then it will be the best experience that this person ever had and he or she would beg me to take his\her phone number. That the difference. It is impossible to explain how hard I just rolled my eyes. Your utter arrogance is almost laughable. You say your style is completely different. Okay, give me an example. If your game is at such a ridiculously high level that your making people “beg” you to take their phone number, I’m sure…
/r/seduction07/08/20 04:31 PM
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“I have a boyfriend" is a filter to filter out loosers. How to explain it better? Make an experiment: approach 20 girls on a street and count how many times they will tell you "I have a boyfriend". For example 15 from 20. Now take a pice of paper and prepare survay with random questions and approach a girsl with this survay. One of question should be if you have a boyfriend. You will see the difference. I'm pretty sure that most of them don't have a boyfriends. Dude, I understand what you meant …
/r/seduction07/08/20 08:17 AM
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This does not mean that she really has a boyfriend. This is type of rejection or hesitation. She rejected you. It is a no. If she liked you, she wouldn’t have said that. I never said she did have a boyfriend, I said even if she didn’t you need to accept this answer as a no. Then I'm disrespectful. But I date this girl and I sleep with her. Then you’re a disrespectful douche bag and I feel sorry for anyone who’s ever had the misfortune of “sleeping” with you. I don’t know why you said this girl c…
/r/seduction05/08/20 04:23 PM
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Maybe you’re just not funny. If you’re telling jokes and none of your dates are laughing that sounds like a you problem mate. No one owes you a smile and a lot of women detest men telling them to smile. I would never ask a man to smile. A smile is earned. Based off of the way you wrote your post you come off as arrogant rather than confident. Maybe spending more time making your date comfortable around you and less time pretending you’re the wit of the world, and she would be smiling all on her …
/r/seduction04/08/20 10:06 PM
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Would you have thought it was funny if she said you look ugly when you’re making jokes? There’s no reason to call someone ugly unless you know them very well and both understand that it’s playful. I don’t know any girls that are “receptive” to being called ugly. If they smile maybe it’s because they’re so shocked they can’t think of any other reaction or because you implied they’re ugly unless they’re not serious.
/r/seduction04/08/20 09:53 PM
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This is a bad idea. Often, girls smile just to be polite when they see someone starting at them. Like a lot of other people mentioned, don’t do this because the girl is trapped on the train with you. There’s no reason to terrorize someone just to get your Nightgame on.
/r/seduction04/08/20 09:10 PM
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Isn’t that what I said? I don’t get the point of your original comment.
/r/seduction04/08/20 07:39 PM
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Even if she doesn’t have a boyfriend and only said that to let OP down easy it’s still a definitive no. People like you make women scared of turning men down and create situations where they don’t feel safe telling the truth.
/r/seduction04/08/20 06:48 PM
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Ahh got it. Thanks for the clarification.
/r/seduction04/08/20 06:44 PM
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Dude, I have a boyfriend is a flat out no. Pushing for an answer beyond that is just disrespectful to her and her boyfriend.
/r/seduction04/08/20 04:44 PM
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I agree with a lot of what you said but I would refrain from telling someone you like them because that can totally be misconstrued. Instead of “look I like sex. Oh, and by the way I like you” maybe tell them you like having sex with them. Don’t say I like you. I like you though, and I’m not making any promises but for now I’m happy to keep seeing you. If you’re happy to keep seeing me too, we’ll do that. This is the part where I think you speech becomes problematic. If you’re just in it for the…
/r/seduction04/08/20 03:53 PM
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It’s because he was bragging about being a player and sleeping with a ton of women and giving advice on how to do it that I responded. I wasn’t attacking or disrespecting men who just want sex, but because this is a sub about “seduction” I just wanted to point out to those who might believe him, that his advice has issues rooted in sexism, and he may not be the best example of a good sexual partner who is confident, sure, but is also respectful. I totally respect that you want a relationship and…
/r/seduction27/07/20 06:19 AM
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More like a fuck boy, but okay buddy. You’re the one that was calling women who are playing the exact same game derogatory names not me
/r/seduction27/07/20 05:50 AM
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But I don’t think you understood the gist of what I was saying. Of course men and women who are looking for a quick lay usually aren’t expecting to date that sexual partner. They both are looking for sex and that’s it. I wouldn’t call either of them a slut because that’s a derogatory name for a WOMAN who has a lot of sexual partners. I personally have never heard anyone call a man a slut. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen but it is an offensive word used to target women who take control of their…
/r/seduction27/07/20 05:41 AM
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So, if a woman straight up asks for sex she’s a disease ridden slut but if a man does he’s just full of confidence and honesty? It’s fine that you want to have a ton of sex but in order for a woman to be considered “relationship material” she can’t be “slutty” enough to have sex whenever she wants? You sound misogynistic.
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:51 PM
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Wtf
/r/seduction26/07/20 05:42 AM
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Oh sorry I just assumed that since you were perpetuating a damaging and false narrative that a woman’s hymen pops or tears when she loses her virginity, that you might be a mendacious person. Your point I believe was supporting the idea that you can physically tell when a woman has had sex which is not true so I concluded that you must not have much experience with taking women’s virginity.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 08:28 PM
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Dude wtf a hymen doesn’t pop. “Trust me, they vary quite a bit” how would you know when you’ve obviously never had sex with an actual woman in your life?
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 08:59 PM
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Dude I can’t believe you’re proud that you’re going to teach your son to hate people. Poor kid.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 10:23 PM
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