JocelyntheGinger Archive

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1	Q4ALL: How can TRP deny being "alt-right" when "THE SLAUGHTER OF THE GERMAN GIRLS" is front-paged, heavily up-voted with hundreds of shitty comments? Question, if Red Pill isn't a "movement", then what is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/18 04:21 PM
2	Most enraging/cringey quotes from TheRedPill or TheBluePill? Did those groups not spawn off of red pill? Seriously asking. I thought they did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/17 11:48 PM
2	Most enraging/cringey quotes from TheRedPill or TheBluePill? Did those groups not spawn off of red pill? Seriously asking. I thought they did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/11/17 11:48 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? And romance novels are less accepted in public society than Hollywood action films.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 02:43 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? But women aren't being given the same opportunities to have their sexuality pandered to as much as men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:27 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Bruh, there is an multiple fields of study on how media affects people psychologically. Feminist film theory is it's own field. Here's an article about how video games have affected guy's feelings towards women. Here's one that talks about media and violence against women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:27 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? No, I think feminists think that entertainment is egalitarian and thus shouldn't pander to one demographic's fetishes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:22 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Women not wanting to engage with men who think disparagingly of them is not at all equivalent to the systematic disenfranchisement of an entire race.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:21 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Fair. Good article by the way. I guess then it comes down to how people think of the word "feminism". I just think of it as the belief that women are equal to men, so I don't see a problem with using "feminism" as a framework to talk about sexism. But I recognize that feminism has become envisioned by some as the more extreme, hypocritical version of feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:19 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Well if that's what they're majorly treated as, yes. Media affects how you think. So if movies and tv shows and comics show women as sexy things to fuck and not much else, that's how people are going to think of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:17 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Wait I thought we were talking about male spaces, not entertainment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/17 01:15 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? One group wanting to treat another group as lesser isn't a good enough reason for it to happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 11:25 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I guess I'm confused then on what you're considering "feminist interventions".	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 11:24 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Fine, then you think women were involved with creating games but not a large portion of the people playing them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 11:23 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? That's not segregation. And frankly it's kind of insensitive to compare to segregation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 11:22 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Again, how do you expect a woman to talk about sexism without mentioning feminism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/17 11:21 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I 100% approve of unisex bathrooms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:52 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? feminists fight for segregation They do? No seriously, what the fuck that's not okay	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:51 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? You're giving women shit by stating "women feel entitled to men's spaces". I'm pointing out that most "men's spaces" are non-gendered and thus not male spaces at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:51 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? All those authors were women. And I can't think of an instance where someone be discussing sexism against women but not mention feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:49 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? So it's realistic for women to want that not to be the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:47 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? So you think women were involved with creating games but not playing them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:47 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? True, true, and true. Also cheers for actually having a productive conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/17 02:46 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Fine. Here's another source.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:54 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Oh please of course people have other uses. Thinking of people as "uses" is still shallow. But what I said is true and you know it Uh no, it's not true. It is objectively not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:53 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Literally all you have to do is Google "feminist critique".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:52 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Just like college rape where feminists make out as if there some sort of rape epidemic at colleges when in reality there's not, quite the opposite actually. Eh, depending on definition of "epidemic", I can see the case being made here. Every woman I've talked about it to knows at least one woman who was raped in college. And statistically, rapes are still seriously under-reported and even further under-charged. But there are absolutely those who push it too far. When I was at my college orientat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:33 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I will concede that the "all" was hyperbole. But you must admit that women are sexualized far more often than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:25 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Pretty sure most misogyny is also subtle and insidious. Why should a workplace be male only? Or a bar? Or a club? I can see the argument for a gym exclusively for guys, but no one ever labels them as such. If a place doesn't take to label itself as "men only", like gentleman's clubs do, then don't give women shit for going there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/17 03:24 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Oh fuck off. Just because you can't see women as anything but something to bury your dick in doesn't mean all men are that shallow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/17 02:47 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I still know plenty of guys, single guys, who have a lot of attractive female friends that they are not trying to fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 10:04 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Like, can you explain what made vet jobs change from masculine (it was originally mostly men) to feminine, with out appealing to the genders of the participants (since that would flip the arrow around). I have a hypothesis that as women started to join into vet jobs, the prestige went down. (There's been a few studies showing that historically, when the female proportion of a field went up, the field stopped paying as well and seen as less respectable for men.) So, I think it was kind of a self-…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 10:00 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Never heard anyone say nursing was an easy major. Apologies, you're right. I was thinking of what was said specifically about science and engineering majors at my school. You're right; it's definitely not an issue across the board. I am not saying it doesn't happen as it does, but that I highly doubt its the epidemic feminists and that matter women are making it out to be. I personally wouldn't call it an epidemic at this point. Just a persistent annoying cough. But you raise a good point; it's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:54 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Well interestingly enough, if devs didn't treat all their female characters as sex objects, more people would want to buy their games.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:49 PM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Nope you're wrong	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:48 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Can you give me some examples? Especially of the latter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:47 PM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? If they did I would think there be numerous articles on women doing this. There are. Fucking google it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:47 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Your argument was that if a man is friends with a woman, he wants to fuck her. You didn't specify any criteria other than woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 09:46 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Yep. I work as a software engineer for a defense contractor. The section I'm in is pretty 50/50 which is great, but I still see the bias when I go to high level meetings where I'm 1 of 8 women in a room of 40.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:38 PM
1	If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as well These are all fair points. I would point out however that we can see in this day and age that discrediting information isn't enough to stop ignorance. People make provably false claims, but others believe them regardless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:35 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? It's not a male-space that women "invaded". Women have been there since the beginning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:33 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? They've boned. But they don't try to bone every woman they're friends with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:31 PM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I don't know why you see it as an "invasion"; women have been playing video games and reading comics since their inceptions. And women do criticize rapists and hip-hop artists who use sexist language. Women do point out the over-arching sexism in music, visual media, and books. You're right; feminism got a stronger foothold in comics and making them change. But that doesn't mean we've stopped fighting on all fronts or that we shouldn't be fighting at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:29 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? These are all excellent points. With medicine and law, it used to be like what we see now in CompSci. Women were pushed out because they weren't "smart enough" or just not "wired to think that way". But women pushed and got through. I think that's what happening in CS now. I think we're in the transition phase. There was a study that found that the environment of a coding class has a significant impact on whether girls take it. It's not a conscious bias in this case, but that girls instinctively…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 02:24 PM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? I was going to write something snarky, but dude, I am sympathetic to you. No one should be told they can't study something because of their gender. That's dumb and exactly what I'm against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:12 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Women have been playing video games since their inception.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:09 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? That's what OP's argument is based on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:08 AM
1	If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as well shaming them doesn't seem to be working Nope I'm pretty sure it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:08 AM
1	If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as well I'd say it's more wrong and evil to perpetuate harmful ideas than to try and stop the spread of such ideas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:07 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Even their lesbian friends? Wait, does this mean those crazy possessive women are right when they demand their boyfriend can't have any female friends?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:02 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? What about Iran?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:01 AM
1	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Pretty sure the male friends I made in rugby can deadlift.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 01:00 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Ah yes if by "hate boner" you mean "have legitimate criticisms of".	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 12:58 AM
2	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? What "male spaces" are we talking about? Because I would assume male spaces would have a direct reason for being male-only. Like a big brother program. An entire field of study doesn't get to be exclusionary to one gender. And before you bitch about it, I don't see people telling men they can't be in Women/Gender Studies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/17 12:57 AM
1	If it's okay for women to enjoy media showing women in a degrading or unflattering light then it is perfectly okay for men to do so as well Nice argument. But free speech is only guaranteed in the way of the government not being able to punish or stop you. Private citizens can still use their first amendment rights to try and change the actions of other private citizens or institutions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/17 05:23 AM
5	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Huh. Then why do my guy friends have so many female friends? Are they trying to fuck all of them?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/17 05:19 AM
5	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Maybe you don't see it but that doesn't mean it's not happening. My experience is that most friend groups are mixed genders and don't at all rely on a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/17 05:18 AM
11	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? God I hope youre being sarcastic	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/17 05:14 AM
13	Are these debates about male/female differences in cognitive skills a diversion from the real gender difference no one wants to talk about? Look you may not realize it, but what you just said is an example of the kind of attitude that discourages girls from STEM. I went to an tech/engineering school; I'm a woman. I saw so much bullshit. Guys treating female project partners as idiots who could only be trusted to make the powerpoint. Guys "correcting" girls who knew what they were doing. I saw freshman CS majors try to correct a fucking professor. (Surprise surprise, the female professor was right and the student was flat out wrong) …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/17 05:13 AM
1	CMV: Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore. What you just wrote is word salad. But let me see if I understand what you're trying to say. So you're attempting to claim that when a woman tells a man to "man up", she is implying that she would and could go after a "manlier" man? If that is what you were trying to say, I could see the argument that using the phrase "man up" is manipulation in any case because it's attempting to condition the recipient. But I disagree with the assessment that anytime a woman uses it she is doing so in the cont…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/17 11:25 PM
1	CMV: Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore. "Dread game". There you go, it's manipulation, and by many accounts it's emotional abuse. One common tactic prescribed by the redpill is to straight-up ignore your wife/partner/"plate" until they do exactly what you want. Manipulative, and emotional abuse. I won't say there aren't women out there who do "game men". But the idea that AWALT and that they're always doing it is ridiculous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/17 11:44 PM
1	CMV: Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore. Examples? I'm not doubting your claim, but I can't bring any examples to mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/17 11:07 PM
1	CMV: Women are scared of TRP because if men wake up to the reality of how badly men are getting screwed then life won't be on easy mode for women anymore. TRP teaches men how to pursue men's own interests By instructing them to manipulate and emotionally abuse women. It might not be "hate" but it sure is hateful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/17 02:41 AM
1	Wage Gap is a MYTH I'm just pointing to a trend over-all. It's not automatic, but it is a tellin pattern.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/17 07:11 PM
1	Wage Gap is a MYTH Sorry, I meant the opposite with psychology and biology. Biology and psych used to be well-respected, well-paid fields. Coincidentally (or maybe not) now, when women are the majority, that is not the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/17 10:37 AM
1	Wage Gap is a MYTH It's getting better, but then you have places like Uber and other Silicon Valley companies that still treat women terribly. It's not just about getting women into programming, it's about retaining them by getting rid of sexual harassment and the "Boy's Club" mentality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/17 10:35 AM
1	Wage Gap is a MYTH Pretty sure writing the programming for the Apollo missions wasn't "data entry".	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/17 10:33 AM
5	Wage Gap is a MYTH programming Programming used to be female-dominated. And it didnt pay all that well. It wasnt until it becane male-dominated that it started being lucrative. Same woth psychology and biology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/17 10:54 AM
1	CMV: Single motherhood is bad for literally all parties involved, but no one does anything to stop it because that would require women to change. My point still stands. She made a pitiful mating choice That would have been true regardless of whether she stayed with the father or not. And if you agree that he probably wouldn't have had a better upbringing by being raised with the abusive father, then didn't she make the right decision to leave the man?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/17 10:17 PM
4	CMV: Single motherhood is bad for literally all parties involved, but no one does anything to stop it because that would require women to change. So you think you would've had a better upbringing if you were raised with your abusive father?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/17 07:17 PM
2	Question for female persons: rank a list of jobs and occupations in the order that you'd most prefer in a man Most desirable: Homemaker Least desirable: Any job where he'll be insecure that I make as much / more than him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/17 04:29 PM
11	The State of average American Women 2016/2017 Doesn't explain why your "I hate fat people" belongs in the purple pill sub...	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/17 01:33 PM
10	Google "in love with gay man", "in love with gay best friend". A lot comes up... My feeling exactly. The reason women google "in love with gay man" is because they're looking for advice, because obviously that relationship isn't gonna happen. Nobody is going to desperate for advice about being in love with someone nice/boring/shy/socially awkward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/17 01:26 PM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Well good luck to you. I think this convo's run its course.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/17 03:55 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Well here's hoping you have a long and fulfilling life without making someone else miserable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/17 03:42 AM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. All these changes only to make your own lives horrible. Someone's projecting. I don't get why you're proselytizing to me when you've made it clear over and over again that you only care about yourself. Why should it matter what I do if apparently only you and your offspring matter?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/17 03:14 AM
3	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. You think that this is something I should avoid doing? If you want men to get fair custody then YES. oh wait I'm sorry thats right you only give a shit about yourself. And you know what, maybe I dont care about you, because you've proven yourself to be an asshole, but I DO care about men and I DO tell off man-hating feminists . Also I love how you said I was playing the victim earlier when you clearly have a victim complex. "Wah life isn't fair for men! But I'm not going to do a single thing to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/17 06:47 PM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. You don't care about people unless they care about you. Okay, so you're sociopath. Got it. And secondly, by asserting that women are the ones to take of children, like you were at the beginning of the conversation, you help perpetuate the situation where women are assumed to be the primary and better caretaker. How can not see that? You can't whine and bitch about men losing custody and then turn around and tell me that women are supposed to do the child-rearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/17 10:59 PM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. So you just don't care about any rape victim unless its someone you know? News flash, people not giving a shit about rape victims is a huge part of the reason rapists go free. To rape again. And then it just might happen to someone you do care about. And I don't think it's "men's job to make the world a safe place". I think it's everyone's job. We're together as a society, and I believe that means that we should be looking out for each other and trying to protect each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/17 11:55 PM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. I'll be honest I thought we'd moved on to a somewhat understanding chat. (I apologize if my "but theyre the best thing ever?" comment came across incredulous; I was just confused by why you said it was unfortunate that you knew that.) Why are you calling her a slut? Because someone violated her when she was drunk? How does that make sense? Did she drink too much? Clearly, but that doesn't mean she deserves to be violated. Would you say a man who was raped when he was drunk deserved it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/17 05:23 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. But they're still the best thing ever?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/17 02:56 PM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Is that "unfortunately" for you or me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/17 02:19 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Actually, if you'll recall my original comment, I don't plan to have children. And if I do, don't worry, their father will do all the child-rearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/17 01:15 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Well your argument seems to revolve around the belief that people's worth is based on their reproductive ability, but I would say thats simply not true. Sure, sperm is cheap, but don't kid yourself. Women are still devalued in society. Not in the same way men are, but they definitely are. You point to rape accusations, and I point to the comparative rates of rape reporting, rape prosecuting, and actual rapists put behind bars. False accusations do happen, but the fact is men are more likely to b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/17 03:07 PM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. What biological facts are you referring to? I don't see what biology has to do with boys being allowed to express emotions. And society has made changes on how we treat people. Sure, it's not a quick process, but things are certainly more equal today than they were 50 years ago.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/17 12:18 PM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. I see your point, and you've made very good ones. But I disagree with the idea that this is something that cannot change. If more and more people start taking an egalitarian approach to raising children, won't it eventually lead to a more equal society? It's one thing to say "This is how it is." and another to say "This is how it is and thus how it will always be."	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/17 01:54 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. I apologize if it appears I'm shaming men. But I'm confused by what you mean by "acting like men have to act". What behaviors are you referring to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/17 02:03 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. How is what I said "man hating"? Because I believe that men shouldn't have to act out stereotypes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/17 11:46 PM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. What's your source for that number? If you're referring to Liana Sayer's study, what she accounted for was not stay-at-home dads, but unemployed husbands. That study included data of husbands without children! And I do care about children AND men. I care about the fact that there are people still trying to raise little boys to believe they have to be tough and they can't show emotion and they are superior to girls. "Toxic masculinity", look it up. And you keep re-iterating that "men and women ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/17 03:36 AM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Why would a woman lose respect for her husband because he stays home? Do you believe that men lose respect for their wives because they stay home? Stop hiding behind pseudo-psychological bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/17 02:04 AM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. No, I want a real explanation. Why are women with jobs shitty mothers, but men with jobs aren't shitty dads?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/17 04:58 PM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. So all dads with jobs are shitty dads? Okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/17 03:37 PM
1	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. You missed my point of you can work and be a parent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/17 11:11 PM
3	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Not that its relevant, but I'm in my early twenties. And I don't understand why you think its an either/or situation. In today's economy, most families have to be dual income.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/17 02:39 AM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. OH okay so you're saying we all have the same motivation of finding the best possible mate? I guess at least then your view is egalitarian. And actually the reason we broke up was because of distance caused by our separate careers. Also, I'm not saying women can't be feminine; I'm saying it doesn't make sense to assume all women want to or should be and that's the only "intelligent" option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/17 05:00 AM
2	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Well first of all, on the semantic side, some women are attracted to women. On the more logical side, do you assume every man on Earth has the same motivation? I wouldn't. People can be motivated by many different things; fame, fortune, happiness, family, love, etc. So why would you claim that women all have the same goal (getting the optimal man)? Also, personal example, if I was just concerned with getting the best man possible, I don't think I would've broken up with my former boyfriend who's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/17 01:15 PM
3	CMV: Telling male friends, who have little ambition but whine about lack of attention from beautiful women, that they are cool and do not need to be more driven is comparable to women who tell overweight girlfriends that they are fine as is and do not need to lose weight to catch "quality" men. Everything women do is about getting a higher quality man. Do I even have to explain why this is wrong?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/17 01:46 PM
1	How has TV/movies influenced what we expect to get from the dating market? That's a good perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:30 PM
5	How has TV/movies influenced what we expect to get from the dating market? Fair. But I feel these: Ambition, Leadership, Social status with other males, Having other females desire him (pre-selection) are sought after in bad ways. "Dread game", "spinning plates", etc. Many techniques seem to treat women has commodities rather than partners.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:29 PM
1	Trp is hypocritical You raise a good point. You explain the division very well. But I also feel like TRP seems averse to women going from being a slut to a hubby. It seems that TRP views the count of previous sexual counters as more important than current habits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:27 PM
1	Trp is hypocritical You say it's not an insult, but TRP certainly sees sluts as lesser. And, you're right, sexual pleasure goes both ways. But the fact seems to be ignored that a woman's (even a "slut"'s) libido might not be in sync with the male's.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:25 PM
1	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? I get your point, until your example. You're saying that a TRPer would treat his wife poorly (abuse her even, from your wording) because other women were making fun of him? That's pretty telling of the mental state of TRPers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:23 PM
1	Trp is hypocritical I can see that, to an extent, since height is something that cannot be controlled or decided. But height is physical trait, and sex partners is an aspect of personality. Which, I concede, means it is more shallow then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:22 PM
1	Trp is hypocritical But I feel like a lot of TRP denies the fantasy of this thought.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 09:21 PM
1	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? Well, relationships fall under sociological, communication, and anthropological spheres, which are all about "theories" that can't really be proven because there is no solid way to quantitatively test relationships. We can make qualitative observations and experiments, but the human condition is so vast, it's hard to make a solid theory. The thing is, generalizations in such spheres should not be used as the solid-fact norm. They are a mean around which everything fluctuates. There is some sense…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 11:10 AM
-1	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? Well, I think we also just don't seek to be viewed as "credible" to TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 11:04 AM
-1	Q4BP: Why is TBP not an actual alternative to TRP? Was it always this way? We do occasionally now, but a lot of time when I see a post that links to TRP, it's just something appalling that I can't begin to reason against. It's like trying to point out why being a con-man is morally reprehensible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 11:01 AM
5	How has TV/movies influenced what we expect to get from the dating market? I agree with your first point, but a lot of blue-pillers do not find the behaviors "that make you attractive to women" actually attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 10:59 AM
8	Trp is hypocritical I don't think your example works. TRP sounds like it wants to be able to "get it in" with ease, after a first meeting if possible. The type of woman who sleeps with strangers is probably going to be one with multiple previous partners, or "sluts" as TRP deems them. Thus TRP is demanding a service while insulting the provider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/15 10:55 AM
1	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? You make the first statement as if you can ever ascertain someone's sincerity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/15 02:48 PM
2	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? You completely missed my early point about it depending on what you want. No, I've never had a fling, but if I were looking for one, no I wouldn't look for high commitment because that's not what I want at the moment. Also your b scenario doesn't make sense. I was tricked into thinking he wanted commitment so I must value commitment lower than attractiveness??	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/15 01:09 PM
0	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? No, that's not what that means. I would never be with someone romantically/sexually if I wasn't attracted to them at all, similarly, I would never date someone who would have no commitment to me. Doesn't that make sense??	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/15 12:22 AM
3	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? It is! While there are certainly women who only look for LT relationships, a lot of women don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/15 10:31 PM
10	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? Now first off, no one would pick 0% attraction, regardless of commitment. Second, when "picking people", people look for different things at different times. Sometimes you want a fling, so commitment doesn't matter (or is counter-productive). Sometimes you want a relationship, so you sacrifice "attraction" for "commitment". But what I think you're missing is that there is more than just attraction and commitment when making a decision in regards to being with/hooking up with a person. There's ti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/15 06:09 PM
1	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? But the amount of people who read 50 shades does not reflect the number who enjoyed 50 Shades. There's a large group who bought it/read it to make fun of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/15 05:57 PM
6	How is r/theredpill incorrect when it seems to reflect female erotica eerily accurately? Your assertion that women will choose a hot stud over emotional commitment has no basis aside from perhaps your own experiences and cherry-picked examples.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/15 05:56 PM
1	Men and weakness It's not really a debate if you just keep saying I'm lying at every turn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/15 03:20 AM
3	Alpha females I'd consider being Secretary of State	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 07:38 PM
3	Alpha females I wouldn't call her incapable as secstate, and I certainly wouldn't call her worthless. But that's a personal opinion thing. But you did admit that Obama appointed her because he took the nomination and she didn't. So it wasn't because of who her husband was.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 07:06 PM
8	Men and weakness It might be how I was raised, but again, I feel empathy for most people. Thinking about it, the only ones I don't feel empathy for are the ones who lost my respect. I don't see empathy as something that people "need"; it's just something I experience when interacting with people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 07:05 PM
5	Men and weakness You think empathy and lust are mutually exclusive?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 06:32 PM
6	Men and weakness See, you don't know me personally, but that again is decidedly untrue. I prefer my men less masculine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 06:31 PM
4	Alpha females Listen, she might have gotten her foot into the Senate in 2000 because of her husband, but she stayed in Senate on her own right. And Obama didn't make her Secretary of State because of Bill; he did it because she's a capable woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 03:42 PM
12	Men and weakness As a female, I can attest that I do actually have empathy for fellow human beings, regardless of their gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/15 03:35 PM