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I can't believe we're still talking about this one question. It completely boggles my mind that a question that asks women if someone had sex with them WHEN THEY JUDGED THEMSELVES UNABLE TO CONSENT is problematic in some way. If you choose to interpret the question as such. If you interpret it as drunk and therefore unable to consent, the result is entirely different. Are you saying that most, or all, chose to interpret it your way. Also, don't forget to ignore the mens rea aspect again. Even if…
/r/MensRights28/01/13 08:01 PM
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The question was asking women whether or not any has ever had sex with them when they judged themselves unable to consent (specifically, unable to consent due to being drunk, high, drugged of passed out). That is entirely your interpretation of the question. The question itself is not worded as such. Except you have still failed to show - despite repeated attempts - that even this one question on this one study is flawed enough to establish that the study is flawed. See above for reasoning. It i…
/r/MensRights27/01/13 08:17 PM
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Being (say) 'so drunk that some people (the women who answered the question, for one) would consider them unable to consent, but that you would consider them able to consent' is a subset of the potential situations in which women could answer the affirmative to that one question on that one study*. Once again I have to inform you that the question didn't ask if they were "so drunk that they were unable to consent" it asks if they are drunk and unable to consent (drunk, therefore unable to consen…
/r/MensRights26/01/13 04:42 PM
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Yes, if someone says yes or initiates sexual contact or goes along with sexual contact (I don't think verbal consent is the only kind) without stopping the other party/ies, they have consented even if they are drunk or high, if they themselves chose to drink or take the drugs. Their choice, their responsibility. In the same way that someone giving someone else money hasn't been robbed no matter how drunk or high they got themselves.
/r/MensRights26/01/13 03:11 PM
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The above case of taking the money would obviously be analogous to rape. Precisely, but that is not what is asked in the survey. The point I'm trying to make that you keep misunderstanding is that all the scenarios you're describing involve you being coherent enough to give consent, although it's arguable that you are when you're intoxicated enough to suffer memory loss about the incident (although, to go deeper, a reasonable expectation that consent has been given is what's required). But the t…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 08:10 PM
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John Rabe was a nazi, he saved thousands of Chinese lives from the Japanese. To say that all nazis were in agreement on the treatment of "untermenschen" is a lie. But I agree that comparing feminism to Christianity or any other religion is as apt as comparing it to another ideology.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 07:29 PM
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So if a self-professed nazi was to make a positive post about Jews and gentiles relative positions to each other and rights, you'd not react to them adhering to a bigotted ideology and movement based on hatred and false premises? Feminism is an ideology, one you choose. Being male is biological, not something you choose. To hate an ideology is not even close to comparable to hate a sexual or racial demographic.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 12:29 AM
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Again, it is not a good analogy - not because I say it isn't, but because it doesn't represent the scenario it's trying to represent. To be exact, you'd have to be black-out drunk (or whatever level of intoxication would invalidate consent), and someone would have to approach you and ask for all your money. Seeing that you were unable to reasonably consent to this - and, due to your intoxication, unable to stop them even if you understood what was going on - they then took all your money. That's…
/r/MensRights25/01/13 12:18 AM
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Rubbish. They are trained before being sent to the front lines. Granted, they can't train you for every situation and some might freeze or do something that causes others to be put in danger, but that holds true for men as well. Send them to the front lines, when women start coming back in body bags in larger numbers the opposition to the war will grow bigger and more fierce.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:33 PM
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No. Look, the difference here is between being intoxicated and being so drunk you're unconcious or unable to know what you're doing. I've already addressed this point. The question in the survey doesn't specify unconsciousness as being necessary for the woman answering to give an affirmative answer, unconscious is one of the options given, the other three are drunk, high and drugged. And the unable to know what you are doing has several problems with it: How does someone know that another person…
/r/MensRights24/01/13 07:24 PM
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Would you look at all that misogyny and male privilege!
/r/MensRights23/01/13 09:00 PM
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Hang on, what? It doesn't matter if she was asking for sex or not, it matters whether she's in a fit state to consent or not. Why is that difficult to grasp? In the same manner my drunken state (no matter how severe) when giving money to a homeless man asking for change doesn't invalidate my ability to consent to giving money, so shouldn't your ability to consent to performing a sexual act be invalidated. It's right there in article. You can try to claim that they meant "When you were drunk, OR …
/r/MensRights23/01/13 08:58 PM
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Proof of women's subjugation and oppression. Even when privileged and advantaged they suffer oppression.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:34 PM
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Well, I have debated with feminists for a while now, so I guessed I picked up some of their logic. Disclosure: I was being facetious.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:32 PM
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Again, you misunderstand. The definition is that if you cannot consent, anyone who has sex with you is raping you, because sex requires consent. And yet people consent while drunk. Even pissed out their minds. Here's an example of a woman who gives consent while so heavily inebriated she would without a doubt be legally unable to consent. Had that guy taken her up on her 'offer', he would according to this study have raped her even though she was asking for it. Your analogy is not remotely repre…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:29 PM
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From the article: "Granted, not all assaults are reported to authorities." Again with the strawmanning. No-one's ever said all rapes are reported. The reason for not explictly asking the women whether they were raped was to count in those who did not think they had been raped, but whose experiences fitted the definition of rape. It's literally right there in the sentence I quote from the article - AND unable to consent. If you are unable to consent and somebody has sex with you, that's rape. I'm…
/r/MensRights22/01/13 01:21 AM
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If I've learned anything from feminist rhetoric it is that this is evidence of femininity being dangerous and is what causes all evils: Rape, murder, child abuse, war, slavery, etc...
/r/MensRights22/01/13 12:59 AM
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So, yet another of these "women's issues" turns out not to be a women's issue but an issue shared by individuals of both sexes, just that the male ones have been ignored? I give you gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 08:16 PM
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Here's one refutation of the CDC's survey study. Like I said, this [the women are lying en mass] is the other potential avenue of attack if you're attempting to discredit the studies. You would have to come with convincing reasons as to why the majority of women surveyed in a multitude of studies would consistently lie about rape. Apparently you did not read the followiubng sentence: That is, of those who classify their alleged experience as rape and who did not just answer some idiot question i…
/r/MensRights21/01/13 07:57 PM
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Maintaining a falsely gendered narrative is imperative for the money to keep coming in.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:48 AM
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Commence the victim-blaming! "He probably abused her!" What I want to know is how he managed to escape with those injuries.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:46 AM
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It does beg the question though, why does he keep getting married? I know, it's victim-blaming, but why?!
/r/MensRights21/01/13 12:31 AM
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It's sad just how indoctrinated the general poulace is with feminist lies. Having to defend your opponents is somewhat frustrating, but I just cannot stand the dishonesty and idiocy displayed by so many pro-choicers. Moreover, it doesn't do them any good. Fighting a strawman will ensure you don't have any counter-arguments against your opponents' actual arguments. I constantly have to explain this to people. I am myself pro-abortion, but I recognise that the main reason for being pro-life is tha…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:51 PM
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So, according to you Rwanda is a matriarchy? Rwanda's parliament is made up of primarily women, after all. What with all those primarily men being slaughtered in the genocide, it's no surprise really. The same thing happened in former Yugoslavia.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:40 PM
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"When we were growing up, there were just so many overt and implied obstacles to what young women could aspire to. There were certainly schools you couldn’t go to, scholarships you couldn’t apply for – jobs that were not available to you," Clinton said. And how is this any different from what men of her generation faced? And men and boys continue to face today to a degree. Clinton is not an egalitarian, she's a gynocentrist.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:34 PM
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These surveys rarely ask women if they were raped, they ask whether they've had sex when listing numerous situations: For instance while drunk, high, had sex when you didn't want to, etc... Which may or may not legally constitute rape, but sure as fuck aren't rape to your everyday regular person on the street. There are many refutations of these studies around. You yourself admit they don't ask the same questions, so the definitions used are not decided on. Furthermore, how many of the women who…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 09:04 PM
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I think the blue comment is the most despicable one, that is the "moderate" feminist. They are very dishonest and spread lies such as that but are tolerated and encouraged. The black one is the honest one, the radical. She takes her beliefs to their logical conclusion.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 12:56 PM
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There's actually many surveys to establish that women under-report rape. To deny this was the case, you'd have to argue that these surveys have overwhelmingly dishonest response. Just googling the words 'rape survey' or similar should bring up a lot of examples. The figures vary, obviously, due to sample and methogolgy, but there's an overwhelming concensus (again, you can google this to check it) that rape is under-reported. Arguing something I never said, are we? Did I state that female rape w…
/r/MensRights20/01/13 05:14 AM
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Arranged marriages affect both sexes, although efforts are being made to stop them. Amongst low caste Indians, education is rare, I don't know that girls are uniquely denied an education. I too am no expert on Indian laws, but the ones I know of certainly don't discriminate against or afford women less rights to women. However, I thought that since you claimed Indian women have very litle rights you would know which rights they were denied. I mean, I am told by media that women are oppressed in …
/r/MensRights19/01/13 10:00 PM
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Does anyone really think that this stuff is important?! Meanwhile, men are thrown out of their houses, have their wages stolen, are excluded from their children's lives, suffer discrimination in schools and the labour market, have their genitals mutilated, are conscripted, etc... But, let's focus on the things that matter, shall we? Toys being presented as gender neutral...
/r/MensRights19/01/13 09:43 PM
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It would seem you don't understand the difference between reproductive rights and parental rights...
/r/MensRights18/01/13 09:17 PM
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Pelle Billing and Pär Ström were the biggest ones. Pär Ström decided late last year to step down from men's rights activism due to threats he and his family received. Both of whom were named in the video. Pelle Billing has a blog in English, though he mainly uses his Swedish blogs. I personally consider his approach as appeasing feminists which is something I don't personally approve of, I would liken him to Warren Farrell in his manner. However, he is currently the number one when it comes to S…
/r/MensRights18/01/13 09:09 PM
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The strange part is they included Fredrik Rheinfeldt and Anders Borg, both of whom are feminists (they're Sweden's prime minister and finance minister). I guess it has to do with them being part of the Swedish "right-wing", the liberal end of our political spectrum. And they included Anders Behring Breivik... who isn't Swedish... amongst several names I have never heard.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 08:19 PM
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"Because his lack of conventional attractiveness didn't impede his professional or personal success Actually, unattractive men were more impeded by their attractiveness level than unattractive women when it came to job settings I recall from a study.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 08:04 PM
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with very little actual rights, So, which rights are Indian women refused exactly? I am not talking low-caste women, I am talking Indian women in general.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 07:49 PM
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Maybe this one?
/r/MensRights15/01/13 11:33 PM
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No need to put privilege in quotation marks. Being favoured de jure by a law is the definition of a privilege. Do you understand their culture at all? Or are you just going by what media tells you? I know the police are highly corrupt and administer beatings of citizens for speaking up against brutality and that this is on some levels accepted. The caste system ensures injustices are perpetrated against those of lower castes, especially the Dalit. This has no bearing on the fact that Indian wome…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 08:53 PM
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Well, then I shall remain hopeful that it passes this time round! :) Thank you for the work you've done in the pursuit of equality.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 08:46 PM
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that's the difference, I don't gender discriminate in a crime, so I stand with whoever the victim is and take their side first. But the LAW does. but just because boys have their problems doesn't mean the woman don't as well or that they have such a tremendous advantage, I didn't say they did. It does however mean that boys and men have these problems in addition to the problems faced by all.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 11:30 PM
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I consider myself a victim's advocate first But those victims who are not female and/or were not raped by men are not victims according to the law. That is the problem. My main goal is legal equality: Equal rights, equal protection, equal responsibilities/duties/obligations and equal punishment.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 11:16 PM
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It appears that there have been previous attempts, prior to last year, to make rape laws gender neutral. They seem to have failed because either LGBT groups, women's groups and children's rights groups all opposed such measures or because they were in disagreement on the topic. From what I gather, there was a proposal to criminalise female-on-female and male-on-male rape but to leave female-on-male rape out of it as it would be detrimental to women some time ago.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 11:04 PM
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Her death was most certainly a crime, a gruesome one at that. And there is a trial to determine the guilt of those accused (their lawyer claims they were beaten by police to get confessions and that the ones currently accused are innocent). The fact remains however, she was privileged regarding rape law.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 11:00 PM
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Well, at least it got feminist backing this time. That will probably quicken the process. The last one was opposed by the feminist lobby.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:46 PM
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Well, to be fair, in some states in the US women can't walk topless in public while men can... And, that's about it.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:44 PM
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I read about an attempt by LGBT groups to accomplish this last year, it failed then lacking support from political lobbies. Glad to hear it succeeded this time around.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:30 PM
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That is great news! When will this new law be announced? And just so we're clear, it will include female perpetration as well? Not "just" include male victimisation?
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:17 PM
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Yeah there is unfair responses to all victims, but that doesn't mean women are any less subjugated because men are too. Actually, yes, it does. That women are privileged in this regard means they are less subjugated than those disadvantaged by the law...
/r/MensRights14/01/13 10:14 PM
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Nothing happens? Mass riots, changes in legislation proposed, not to mention the act is considered illegal and the culprits are tried by the state. The actual victims? Like the men and boys who are raped, but are not classified as such because they're male and males cannot be raped according to Indian law? Or the women and girls who are raped by other women, but are not classified as such because their assailant was a woman and is therefore exempt from liability in rape cases? Where are the mass…
/r/MensRights14/01/13 08:06 PM
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Meanwhile, Indian rape law excludes female perpetration and male victimisation.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:23 PM
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I don't think Indian law recognises male rape victims. I am fairly sure the law states rape as a crime against a woman committed by a man, like the majority of the world does. Edit: Indian penal code section 375, definition of rape. It excludes female perpetration and male victimisation.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 07:03 PM
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As a rule of thumb, whenever you hear a feminist claim, assume it's a lie or somehow manipulated. Not that they're always lies, but the majority of the time it is not the truth.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 06:53 PM
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That statistic and why it is false is explained here.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:35 PM
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What sounds conspiracy theoristy? That women worked? Or that women began re-entering the industrial workforce because of wartime necessity when the men were removed? I suggest you pay special attention to the Gallup polls and Dr. Joanna Bourke's work. Now, I would like you to cite these laws that prohibited women from having employment outside the home, and explain why the millions upon millions of women who did work were not arrested or if the crime was considered a tort, why their husbands wer…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:27 PM
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J? I've only watched maybe two of her videos. Didn't care for them, so I can't say I care she doesn't like men's rights.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 03:46 PM
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Women weren't disallowed from entering the workforce... This is a commonly held belief spread by feminists. The vast majority of women (those in the working class and some in higher classes) always worked, it was only after industrialisation that women began to leave the workforce, and they did so willingly, to take care of children. There was no law saying women mustn't work... women working on the home front while the men fought overseas. This was not due to feminism, it is an old phenomenon. …
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:48 AM
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While true in the most academic sense of the phrase, it's slightly off according to the common lexicon. I cannot bring myself to even entertain the possibility of agreeing with that definition. According to that definition, saying that rape is not a common crime is rape apology and saying that not all accusations of rape are real is also rape apology. This is clearly an ideologically driven seachange in the definiton of that word. It was a complete parody, however. Can you really not just laugh …
/r/MensRights13/01/13 07:31 AM
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If I understand correctly, rape is still only recognised when male-perpetrated but sexual violation can be committed by women?
/r/MensRights13/01/13 03:15 AM
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So you're admitting it does happen? The fact that it happens at all is abhorrent. There's a difference between being cautious in case of a false accusation and blaming the victim. Did you read what I wrote? I said it happens, but is rare. I also said it happens for all crimes, but apparently it's only horrible if it happens to happen with respect to female rape victims. This (NSFW) kind of shit has happened. And it really should not. That's a drawing. A very crude one at that. How is that commen…
/r/MensRights13/01/13 03:09 AM
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I disagree. Victim blaming is rare, it happens for all crimes but is rare. My mother constantly tells me to be careful while out and about, to not walk through dark areas where people aren't around alone, to not walk through or close to areas known for being "trouble". Does that mean she is blaming those who walk down the streets that are unsafe and get beaten up or raped? No. This article brings into focus the ridiculousness of suggesting men can't control their behavior and that they shouldn't…
/r/MensRights12/01/13 01:08 PM
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What does the law say regarding rape in New Zealand? Is it gender-neutral? Can men be victimised? Can women perpetrate?
/r/MensRights12/01/13 12:27 PM
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Disgusting.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 12:23 PM
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I'm not saying women caused anything, I haven't mentioned women. How did the men subject to military slavery benefit from a movement professing to be about equality? Unless, they don't count when it comes to the entirety of the country?
/r/MensRights12/01/13 12:15 PM
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I used to believe what you did, because that's what I was told. It's when I did some research I found it wasn't true. Feminism is now and always has been female chauvinism, it never was about equality.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 01:55 AM
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How so? Prove that women were at a comparative disadvantage to men. There were female disadvantages and there were male disadvantages, just as there were female advantages and male advantages. Now, if one were to go about achieving equality from this starting point (an equitable state of inequality), how would one do so? By extending only one side's privileges and rectifying only their inequalities, whilst not giving a toss about the other side's or even make their lot worse? That doesn't sound …
/r/MensRights12/01/13 12:32 AM
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Any proof for this, that feminism was about equality? And not about extending female privileges.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:15 PM
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Except for the men who were conscripted and sent off to be killed.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:13 PM
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Kindel, US representative, died in 1930. But remember, the male dominated politics of old was a bastion of misogyny!
/r/MensRights11/01/13 11:11 PM
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I think that the way he describes his male friend's treatment of him is the best part. He explained that he was there for him, then it was business as usual. No coddling, no special treatment. I think that this is vital to getting past somethign like that. They haven't changed so don't treat them any differently from how you usually treat them.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 07:48 PM
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By looking at the whole picture, instead of at just one side, you'll find that both sexes had privileges or unique rights. Women weren't at a disadvantage compared to men, at least not any more than men were disadvantaged compared to women. To have a movement dedicated to further women's causes at a time when women were both less and more than equal compared to men without doing anything to further men's causes, was not necessary. It wasn't about equality, it was about increasing privileges for …
/r/MensRights11/01/13 07:40 PM
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I also think that the minor discriminations against men aren't a big deal, things such as being told not to wear pink or make-up, etc... However the major discriminations such as sexist rape laws, non-prosecution of false accusations, alimony, child support, family law, educational discrimination, genital mutilation, conscription, sexist domestic violence policies and refusal to aid victims based on their biological sex, etc... are very important to me. Maybe the next time I meet the parents of …
/r/MensRights11/01/13 01:22 AM
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I don't think anyone can credibly say at one point feminism wasn't needed. I do, frequently.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 01:09 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/MensRights11/01/13 12:37 AM
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I've found myself more and more disgusted with the UN and "humanitarian" NGOs that follow their lead, and consequently I find myself ever less inclined to support them or believe claims made by them.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 11:02 PM
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We've reached the level of pets!
/r/MensRights10/01/13 10:52 PM
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Because men don't have privileges and women aren't subordinated. The opposite is true for western society. Can you name some of these legally sanctioned rights men have that women don't? Uganda had a gender divide in parliament somewhere along the lines of 55-60% female and 40-45% male last time I checked. Does that mean they are a matriarchy? It is female-dominated after all.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 08:15 PM
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Hi, sorry for the late answer. I think I know what you're referring to. Read here by PandyFackleresque. Is that it?
/r/MensRights10/01/13 06:41 PM
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That's just a bot to keep us safe from feminist attacks. Click the 'Why?' and you'll see why it's there. It wasn't asking you why you posted here.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 06:14 PM
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You're fucking kidding me right? Have you ever taken a trip to a Muslim nation, before? You mean like countries with the Mahr? With conscription? Where rape is legal if it's done by a woman? Where the man alone is obligated to provide maintenance for his family and the woman has a right to maintenance? Those countries? Countries that discriminate against women and men? Have you? The women in America who fought for women's suffrage were feminists as well. And did they fight for female conscriptio…
/r/MensRights10/01/13 06:08 PM
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That's just one instance. I know, and Joseph Fritzl is Austrian, so clearly Austria is literally a patriarchal hell on earth. Nevermind that the culture itself tolerates acid attacks on women who reject men. I am not sure about the total numbers, but acid attacks are rare and happen to both sexes by both sexes. I doubt there is overall cultural tolerance of the phenomenon. I think it's reasonable to call it a patriarchy if one sex is culturally accepted as having violent authority over another. …
/r/MensRights10/01/13 04:51 PM
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Wasn't Joseph Fritzl Austrian? Clearly Austria needs feminism!
/r/MensRights10/01/13 04:20 PM
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Perhaps this one? If it's the US you mean.
/r/MensRights10/01/13 04:28 AM
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She is right, she should be taught not to rape. There is no-one who teaches women this. Ladies, it's not ok for you to rape people! There, that's rape stopped. Remember, women can stop rape!
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:38 PM
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Domestic violence shelters
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:21 PM
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This doesn't add up with the statistics regarding sexual assault, unless you know a couple of million women... The same statistics you are at this moment defending.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:17 PM
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Another thing I was thinking. I don't know if it's relevant really, but it crossed my mind. You know how feminists say that 99.999% of all female rapes go unreported (because 1-in-3 women is raped and so they have to come up with some ridiculous explanation as to why rape is such a rare crime)? Is it not possible that less victims reported their victimisation this year? Perhaps 99.9992% of all rapes went unreported last year? I mean that's what they say otherwise: Decrease in reported victimisat…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 11:13 PM
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So?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:58 PM
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Or... How about this? We demand they make rape laws gender neutral and acknowledge female rapists and male victims and that the judicial system treats them all equally? I thought this was fairly obvious to anyone even peripherally involved in men's rights. Apparently, I was mistaken. Others are not as enraged as I am over this glaring example of female privilege and inequality... Edit: But I guess bringing the existance of female-perpetrated and male-suffered rape to the attention of the legal s…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:49 PM
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Your first sentence could probably use a comma. :)
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:43 PM
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Ok, I can agree with this assessment of the comment. But that has nothing at all to do with what I was talking about.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 10:41 PM
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Bonus points for double sexism. Rape is men's fault, all men's. Women don't rape, so when they do we must ignore it so we can keep pretending that rape is men's fault.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:57 PM
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So, exactly how do you turn that into acceptance and encouragement of male-perpetrated sexual violence? I don't know the quote (politician, police, random commenter, protester?), but it specifies a group of men (indeed, the sexism is annoying, but in India women are exempt from rape accusations, so it was to be expected) that intends to rape. In other words, male rapists (once again, female rapists aren't acknowledged, so nothing out of the ordinary). There is no acceptance of the crime, no cond…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:52 PM
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Good thing you said that, because I was just about to go on a murder streak, for shits and giggles. But now you said that, it got me thinking... Like, maybe murder is wrong?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:43 PM
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No, they actually believe this. This was essentially what the Slutwalks were about. And for those of you who are smug little fucks who think "feminism is 'needed' in places like India so they are probably right", they think the exact same thing about the West. They believe we live in a culture where male-perpetrated sexual violence is normalised, accepted and condoned, even encouraged. Now, most of you have brains and realise this doesn't hold true for the West, so I ask you why do you believe i…
/r/MensRights09/01/13 06:06 PM
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We don't. Which is why we shouldn't say any definite number. We don't know if the number is a constant or if it fluctuates greatly. The graph they came up with is hate and fear-mongering, it is not factual in any way. That doesn't mean we should make our own with equally invalid statistics. The fact of the matter is that neither we nor they, nor anyone else knows whether the vast majority of alleged rapes did take place or not. Here's what we do know: The conviction rate for rape is ~55-60% The …
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:56 PM
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Why should she go to /r/whiterights?
/r/MensRights09/01/13 04:35 PM
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An amazing documentary.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 09:09 PM
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I fear this is a sore temptation for more radical MRAs. Colour me radical. The feminist historical revisionism needs to be addressed, Patriarchy Theory is a conspiracy theory as it doesn't address female privileges that existed under the old system and it consists to a great extent of lies, both lying by omission and sometimes outright-in-your-face-lying. Patriarchy Theory needs to be discarded and exposed for what it is, a faulty premise. Edit: I do however not wish to ignore the past. I say we…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 09:06 PM
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Remove: 8 through 12. Number 8: I am as antifeminist as they come, but listing people as belonging to hate groups is authoritarian and wrong. Number 9: We can't dictate how people will react, society will always have a bias towards women, we can only ensure men have the same legal protection and are treated the same way by the legal system. Number 10: Same as above. That they are treated the same in the legal setting, sure; that society treats male and female perpetrators the same, no, it will n…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 08:54 PM
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Would be an interesting read for sure.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:52 PM
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I don't think you'll get a good sample, but anyway: Sweden For the MRM.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:46 PM
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estimated that approx 350 000 rape victimizations occurred but only 100 000 were reported and that 99% of the reported rapists are men. Guesstimates are really terrible, they have no idea how many rapes were committed, so they are guessing and estimating based on those guesses. The 99% figure is often used, do you have even a close idea as to why that number is that high? Well, for starters, it doesn't include male victims (the FBI only acknowledged men could be victims in 2012), who are mostly …
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:28 PM
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I disagree, it is one of the three major flaws: It uses flawed statistics and poses them as axioms. It fails to recognise female perpetration (they didn't even add a low female-perpetration prevalence, the perception of which comes from a sexist definition of rape). It assumes all those alleged rapes (reported or unreported) were true unless they were proven to have been malicious lies. It is as accurate to say that only those jailed were guilty rapists (even though not even that is true, there …
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:14 PM
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Batperson, you misogynist piece of shit! /s
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:12 PM
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I have seen no such reports, but as I said, I haven't looked. So, I'll take your word for it for now. Though I should warn you, I am somewhat skeptical of pretty much anything the media (particularly Western agenda-driven media) prints, as most of it is sensationalist drivel published for mainly three reasons: to make us feel better about ourselves, to make us afraid, or to promote hatred. So I am not easy to please :)
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:10 PM
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The three main problems with the original chart are: It uses flawed statistics and poses them as axioms. It fails to recognise female perpetration (they didn't even add a low female-perpetration prevalence, the perception of which comes from a sexist definition of rape). It assumes all those alleged rapes (reported or unreported) were true unless they were proven to have been malicious lies. It is as accurate to say that only those jailed were guilty rapists (even though not even that is true, t…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 07:02 PM
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Equality!
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:23 PM
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Do you mean this speech?
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:19 PM
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I see, so your questions were answered by the edit?
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:16 PM
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The point about those abused becoming abusers is very relevant. For all I know many Indian men are acting like that as a result of things that were done to them. Which is why it is extra important that the law starts recognising female perpetration and that society starts doing something about it. Thinking about what you've said I am guilty of comparing a Western woman's treatment to that of an Indian and willfully ignoring the difference in the treatment of Indian men compared to us. The Indian…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 06:14 PM
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I don't understand the question.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 05:58 PM
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Actually, the study was only done on male CEOs, so only the masculine pronouns are necessary.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 05:46 PM
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I realise you might not want to upset your sister (probably already have by implying women rape, though), but here's a reply I made to someone posting this graph on this subreddit who assumed it was even close to true and not a piece of hateful propaganda: So, tell me, were you born a sexist idiot to come up with stupid tripe such as this or were you conditioned to become the despicable creature you are today by your parents and schooling? Totally serious question, btw. The sheer stupidity of so…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 03:52 PM
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The article was the graph and a paragraph where it is explained where it originates from. Did you read my comment? Obviously not, as it dealt with the article quite clearly.
/r/MensRights08/01/13 12:58 AM
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Trigger warning: Greetings. The sad thing is that feminists use this irrational fear that they have indoctrinated women with over the last 40 years to claim that since women are more afraid, they have more reason to be afraid, and people everywhere will completely disregard that men have far more reason to be afraid (though still not much reason), and men everywhere will be vilified for being "privileged" enough to "have to" fear assaults, and the streets should be made safer for women, etc...
/r/MensRights08/01/13 12:37 AM
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So, tell me, were you born a sexist idiot to come up with stupid tripe such as this or were you conditioned to become the despicable creature you are today by your parents and schooling? Totally serious question, btw. This post was as useful as that graph, it wasn't at all. Here's something I posted (without going into much detail, just scratching the surface) about that graph: The sheer stupidity of so many people, it really boggles the mind. They somehow magically know (perhaps they feel it in…
/r/MensRights08/01/13 12:32 AM
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Next week we'll have a BNP supporter write an article in defence of the BNP concerning the critique it has received for being xenophobic. Join us then, we assure you it will be impartial and unbiased in its nature which is why we will require no form of facts. New Statesman
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:52 PM
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The sheer stupidity of so many people, it really boggles the mind. They somehow magically know (perhaps they feel it in their vaginas, as Eve Ensler would put it) how many rapes occur, even though they are never ever reported. Furthermore, they know exactly how many of the reported rapes that don't end in conviction and aren't proven to have been false reports that in fact did take place: All of them. So, why don't they use this magic power to determine guilt without evidence to have these masse…
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:46 PM
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The sheer stupidity of so many people, it really boggles the mind. They somehow magically know (perhaps they feel it in their vaginas, as Eve Ensler would put it) how many rapes occur, even though they are never ever reported. Furthermore, they know exactly how many of the reported rapes that don't end in conviction and aren't proven to have been false reports that in fact did take place: All of them. So, why don't they use this magic power to determine guilt without evidence to have these masse…
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:26 PM
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Obviously they don't ignore all rape claims, as there are (female) rape cases going to court, etc... Indeed, but what's to say the police (if they refuse to report alleged rapes) don't refuse to report other crimes, such as assaults?
/r/MensRights07/01/13 11:05 PM
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Perhaps you'd like to enlighten me (being someone who doesn't know very much about Indian law) which laws discriminate against women? Laws that discriminate against men I am aware of, some of them are mentioned in the article.
/r/MensRights07/01/13 08:35 PM
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any kind of sexual assault or other kinds of atrocities against women. But sexual assaults against men (not rapes, as the law doesn't recognise that; in fact I am not sure that the law recognises sexual assault of any kind where the victim isn't female) they are happy to report?
/r/MensRights07/01/13 08:31 PM
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That is wrong imo. Then we'll just have to agree to disagree on that issue. Privileged is a bad word to use here, no Indian is privileged when in comes to prosecuting their rapist. Privilege means a person or (more commonly) a group is afforded special legal advantages, so I think privileged is an apt choice of word. In India, women do have a definite advantage written into law when it comes to rape (both when it comes to victimisation and perpetration). Compared to Western standards of rape leg…
/r/MensRights07/01/13 05:52 PM
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I'd just like to point out that it has not been proven that she made a false rape claim. There was no evidence of a rape occurring, but the evidence that she made a false claim was not conclusive. That is the majority of reported alleged rapes: ~6% are proven (though some of those proven are later found to be false) and ~6% are proven to be false (probably, some of them did occur). As for the rest, we don't know. What everyone should take issue with is Luksa's statement about it not being a crim…
/r/MensRights07/01/13 12:14 AM
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Or quite simply lie about the results and hope no-one ever reads the study and calls them on it.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 07:25 PM
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I never knew this happens in the US too, that's horrible. I disagree. Abortion should be legal for whichever reason, and every reason is equally valid and morally justifiable. If my post came off as hate-mongering against Indian men the I sincerely apologize, I am sure the vast majority are decent blokes. I meant the segregating prison-argument. But apartheid rulings against one single group is hateful according to me. If one discriminates against all groups equally, it's not as bad. I don't thi…
/r/MensRights06/01/13 07:14 PM
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How is that not discrimination? Do you think a society that will kill a fetus just because it will become a women is a gender equal one? Why is a female fetus aborted, but if it had been male it would have been kept? It is not discrimination as there is no legal doctrine or application of the issue, and it is not discrimination because the foetuses that are aborted are not people with rights, they are foetuses. Moreover, in the US the vast majority of sex-selective abortions and sex-selective im…
/r/MensRights05/01/13 04:07 PM
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Especially considering she didn't know what an MRA was, then claims she's met several of them...
/r/MensRights05/01/13 03:40 PM
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and fetuses being aborted purely for being female, very few fetuses are aborted in India purely for being male. How is that discrimination? Foetuses don't have rights so it's impossible to discriminate agains them (unless you're pro-choice). But the burdens mentioned were "women only train carriages", they wouldn't exist if women weren't raped in unisex carriages massively more than men are, I sincerely doubt that rapes that occur in unisex carriages are all that common, to begin with. Furthermo…
/r/MensRights05/01/13 03:25 PM
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Never said it was a victory for men or any other group. I said it was a victory over feminism. Which it undoubtedly is. It is also a victory for equality.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 02:11 PM
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Men experience rigid gender roles and expectations just as women do This is, at least to me, very much a secondary issue. I want equal rights first and foremost.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 11:07 PM
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Compared to you I suppose I am new, I found the MRM in late 2010, but I have always been, at least, suspicious of feminism growing up in 90s and 00s Sweden. I transitioned from non-feminist to antifeminist shortly after finding the MRM. I found my way here through ManWomanMyth's Youtube presence. From there I went to AVfM after having discovered both Paul Elam and JohntheOther on youtube. As I was looking through AVfM one day I found a recommendation for some blogs by women who were supportive o…
/r/MensRights04/01/13 11:02 PM
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Feminism is almost entirely responsible for current domestic violence policies. Responsible for police training, legislation, the entire narrative around domestic violence and its industry are feminist-controlled. You saying that because you identify as a feminist and you think this is good means it was not a victory over feminism is like a Christian saying that teaching evolution in schools over intelligent design is not a victory over organised Christianity because s/he personally thinks it's …
/r/MensRights04/01/13 09:03 PM
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What do you mean? It is a "victory" over feminism. Actually, the police wording it neutrally doesn't mean they'll start going about applying the law equally or even that the law is equal. So, it's a miniscule victory, but a victory nonetheless. Also, not in response to you but, how is being accused of cheating domestic violence?! I think I know how they come up with the 1-in-4 women will be a victim of domestic violence statistic...
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:11 PM
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Are you serious? Or is it sarcasm?
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:36 PM
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Oh, snap! You've got him there! The problem is not in women's in general or female politicians in particular behaviours or attitudes, as these same attitudes are exhibited by men in general and male politicians. The problem is gynocentrism!
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:27 PM
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I remember a study that was posted on here some time ago stating that male and female political candidates had equal rates of success. I don't remember when it was posted or what the study was called. I don't know anything about the sample size or the methods used, so I won't say that the study is definitely correct, but perhaps it is?
/r/MensRights03/01/13 11:24 PM
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I suppose Filipovic is not a real feminist? Could you point me towards one of these "real feminists"? The current narrative surrounding rape is entirely feminist-created and feminist-ruled.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 07:44 PM
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The comments are probably written by mostly British people. British law requires the perpetrator to be male for it to be rape.
/r/MensRights03/01/13 07:36 PM
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I suppose it's possible, but I find it unlikely...
/r/MensRights03/01/13 07:33 PM
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Jill Filipovic, from what I understand is American. So publishing the article in a British news outlet, to me seems to be intended to decisively bring the point home, that they are not interested in anything but a gendered narrative: "Men rape, women are victims! This is what the law states, so no other discussion is necessary."
/r/MensRights02/01/13 08:21 PM
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Still no recognition of female-perpetrated rape or an open discussion on the subject? Anything to keep the gendered narrative currently in place. And publishing it in a British newspaper at that...
/r/MensRights02/01/13 08:07 PM
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They were hardly commonplace, and not looked upon favourably. Laws concerning the sale of condoms and the likes. Diaphragms - since before the 19th century. Edit: Not to mention that condoms seem to have been outright illegal in some countries according to your own source. I also found another interesting titbit in your source: Feminists of this time period wanted birth control to be exclusively in the hands of women, and disapproved of male-controlled methods such as the condom. Source: The Hum…
/r/MensRights02/01/13 02:18 AM
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I believe Viagra can be used to treat heart conditions. Edit: I thought it was relevant as women also get heart conditions and therefore women would sometimes be prescribed Viagra, possibly? I am not sure, though.
/r/MensRights02/01/13 01:56 AM
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Advocate for universal health care. And what does advocating for universal healthcare have to do with feminism? She states she needs feminism because she has to pay for her BC, doesn't she "need" universal healthcare instead of feminism for that?
/r/MensRights02/01/13 01:53 AM
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whenever their husband unilaterally decided, they should pop a kid for him. Or whenever they unilaterally decided they'd like a kid...
/r/MensRights02/01/13 01:45 AM
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This is stuff like Ancient Greece, where men would take (often young) male lovers, or that tribe in Papa New Guinea today where the men have sex with the boys as part of a coming of age thing. I acknowledge that these are cultures where homosexuality is recognised and not vilified, however, the mere fact that these societies manage to survive show to me that they are still "heteronormative" as it were. The norm is still heterosexuality.
/r/MensRights02/01/13 01:13 AM
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She's got to have some sort of personality disorder.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 09:52 PM
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Todd Akin was called out on that by pretty much the entire Republican Party, so they took their responsibility. Better to use another example: Are Republicans not responsible for their party's aversion/opposition to abortion? And Christian churches continually call out WBC, better use a different example: Are Christians not responsible for their churches' aversion/opposition to gay marriage?
/r/MensRights01/01/13 09:40 PM
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we'd be re-writing history. This is not exactly something new. Feminist historical revisionism abounds. Vae Victis and history belongs to the victors.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 09:18 PM
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Politicians, by and large, are scum. As are journalists. Self-serving vermin.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 09:08 PM
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Ok, are communists responsible for communism? Edit: I didn't mean to compare the two ideologies, but simply list another ideology that is deserving of scorn. Love is nice and all, but I'd rather have equal rights...
/r/MensRights01/01/13 09:06 PM
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Sexual demographic is not the same as ideological groupings. Were nazis not responsible for the crimes of nazism?
/r/MensRights01/01/13 07:55 PM
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Advocates for mothers' rights say the laws are a ploy to help fathers. Dear God in Heaven! Helping fathers not to have their children stolen from them?! I am beyond shocked. Let's bring on the completely fatherless society! And then blame the fathers for the ills this causes society...
/r/MensRights01/01/13 07:41 PM
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Well, I am farily sure the audience wouldn't be cheering him on...
/r/MensRights01/01/13 07:38 PM
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Patriarchy theory and all that it entails. In Sweden, we call it könsmaktsordningen, loosely translated to the order of gender power, which I think is a more apt term for what it actually states. Don't get me wrong, I am also disgusted with a lot of feminist activism, but the dealbreaker is the ideology itself.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 05:58 PM
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This is an objective fact. You'd be surprised. Actually a tricky one - you're probably thinking the latter, but the truth is both are factors. An example is the attraction to breasts; there are many cultures where breasts aren't seen as sexual at all, and the common taste in breasts has changed over time (presently decent sized to large and round/perky, used to be small and set far apart). For another, look at cultures where homosexual or pedophilic relationships are the norm. Indeed, both facto…
/r/MensRights01/01/13 05:53 PM
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Actually, if you take the Bonobos as example, that is actually a matriarchal society. And if I take almost every other ape or moneky as an example I'll find the exact opposite. The silver-back is a male. I'm not saying all species have specific males leading, however amongst most mammals and primates in particular, it seems to be the case. Do you believe this is a natural occurance or is it an artificially created societal set-up? I am curious what you mean by lineage when it comes to bonobos, t…
/r/MensRights01/01/13 05:49 PM
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Not entirely, from what I've gathered is that some things were unfair to women, and other things were unfair to men. The feminist historical revisionism is false, quite obviously. However, there were laws that were unfair to women in certain regards. It's just that there were as many (or moer) laws that were unfair to men. They also leave out the reasons for those laws, making it seem like the inequalities stemmed from some sort of hatred of women or something like that, which is completely unfo…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 04:22 PM
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Are apes' society set up in such a way that it is easier for males to gain "power"? Do you or do you not believe there are biological differences between men and women? That men and women make different choices because of certain differences? Would you say that most women are attracted to men and most men are attracted to women because of society or because of biology? This is not to say that "[m]en are biologically predisposed to wanting to get into the senate", but that more men (men is a grou…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 04:07 PM
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What I also think is important to point out, though, is that there are a lot of people who used the word "feminist" to describe themselves who truly value equality. It's unfair to condemn everyone under a blanket label based on the actions of a radical sect. (Just because the Wesboro Baptist Church is awful doesn't mean that all Christians are hateful bigots.) I am glad you brought this up, because I usually use this example to explain why I am antifeminist. I am not antifeminist because of what…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 04:06 PM
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You do realise that prior to the Tender Years Doctrine, custody was usually awarded to the father, as they and their upbringing and provision were by law his responsibility. Guess who came up with the Tender Years Doctrine? Feminists. Maternal custody being the norm is entirely due to feminism. But, it's pretty dumb to point fingers at feminists for the problem. They didn't have much influence over the laws or the societal norms. That was men. So, hang on, if feminists never had actual lobbying …
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:55 PM
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Holy fuck, way to not realise there is a huge difference between feminism and women's rights... This sort of feminism-apologism is quite frankly disheartening. How can one be involved in men's rights advocacy and not have a clue about what feminism is?
/r/MensRights31/12/12 03:00 PM
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Such an incredible amount of feminism-apologists, it is depressing. I am antifeminist, I don't hate feminists, I hate feminism. I disagree with feminists. Feminism was never about equality. It was about extending privileges.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 02:59 PM
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Was he awake when the handjob began? If not, it sounds like rape/sexual assault according to modern standards. Well, according to some "super-progressives", even if he was awake and let it happen, unless he gave his explicit verbal consent, it'd be rape.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:10 PM
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Not sure I agree with 4chan or the sign. Anyway, number 2 is the one that sets me off. First off, the gendered pronoun, obviously. Second, the event is undefined. If he didn't hold her down, what did he do? Did he threaten her? Then, yes, it's rape. Did he repeatedly ask her or nag her? Then, no, it isn't rape. Is she saying it took her 4 years to realise that being threatened into having sex is rape? Or is she saying she was nagged? Or something else? She's saying she was raped, but not what co…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 06:01 PM
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Feminism is selective traditionalism, as someone else said.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:31 PM
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Question: Is it illegal for Chinese women to cheat on their husbands? And, if so, is it punishable by up to two years hard labour?
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:11 PM
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However interesting, this is not a men's rights issue. Women are attracted to older men because older men have more to offer them in terms of what they seek in a relationship: Provision and protection. This is no different in China from in any other culture. It's always the man's responsibility to provide and protect. If that responsibility is written into law (quite likely), it is a men's rights issue, if not it's a men's issue. A possible men's rights issue that is related to this would be the…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 05:04 PM
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You are quite correct, but only because double penis is worse than single penis.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 04:52 PM
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Your whole argument rests upon that he'd doubtlessly know. Bingo! Because virtually everyone does. It's not like rapists don't know they're raping, they just don't care. And the slutwalks make absolutely no sense. Just being dressed provocatively isn't consent Which everyone knows. "She's wearing shorts! Then raping her isn't actual rape!" No, just no. being way too horrifically drunk or unconcious nullifies consent, Depends, unconscious, yes (unless previous consent was given for that eventuali…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 02:05 AM
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A good introductionary video to MR.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 01:41 AM
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Yes, but don't forget that rape of women was condoned and accepted and nobody took it seriously! Rape culture! Patriarchy! Penis! Privileged chauvinist! Penis!
/r/MensRights30/12/12 01:32 AM
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I would say that she's implying that people are incongruent with the actions of rape and the definition of it. The definition should be forced sex or sex against expressed will. And everyone knows that is rape, so if that was what happened he'd know he's a rapist. If I understand your point correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong), you are saying that she defined the situation as rape whereas he and her boyfriend and her friends didn't? This is the conclusion I reached when I read the sign…
/r/MensRights30/12/12 01:22 AM
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Well, to be fair, I don't honestly see any posts here about the horrible situations facing women in Egypt and New Deli. I don't see any posts anywhere about the horrible situations facing men in Egypt and New Delhi. Men are raping, groping, assaulting, and harassing women in Middle Eastern countries to the point where it's an epidemic, but that never gets talked about here (unless someone insults you guys). I suppose you have conclusive evidence for this rather bold statement. How about talking …
/r/MensRights30/12/12 12:50 AM
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I always try to ignore Grapeban, but sometimes I don't succeed. Especially not when s/he tells such obvious lies as that one. Take away my comment and GrapeBan who is a feminist who comes here just to argue with MRAs and what do you have? Oh, I don't know, some people who noticed she wrote something as ridiculous as "My rapist doesn't know he's a rapist", which is mind-boggingly stupid when it comes to male-on-female rape. If he doesn't know, why might that be? Because the sex was consensual at …
/r/MensRights30/12/12 12:42 AM
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Ok, so let me get this straight: Because a rare and vile crime was committed by a few men, men should not have equal rights? I guess the civil rights movement's achievements should be revoked then... In that video, listen to Sheryl C. Rollins, she nails it. The "African-American community" was not responsible for the actions of a few African-American individuals. Just like women are not responsible as a group for rapes or murders committed by individual women and men as a group are not responsib…
/r/MensRights29/12/12 09:55 PM
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Because men were (and are throughout the world) enslaved by their governments. Slavery is generally seen as a bad thing, even oppressive to some. Female politicians apparently vote differently on the issue I understand from your reasoning? If its a war it's a self imposed war and one based on the idea that women are fragile. Oh, I see, you think the politicians sent themselves off to war? Or, it's based on the idea that women are more important than men and that as such they need to be protected…
/r/MensRights29/12/12 01:35 AM
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The point about men being the majority of people killed in war is pretty much nullified when you take into account the fact that men (in the form of our politicians) have been actively preventing women from going to war for ages and that people have been fighting to let women into all branches of the military for decades. Ehm, no. The point that men have been conscripted and to this day still are still stands... The point he didn't bring up about "White Feather Girls" also still stands. Also, th…
/r/MensRights29/12/12 12:55 AM
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because what's she saying isn't that her friends disputed if she actually consented, but rather that her consent was implied through her clothes, drunken state and flirting. This information is nowhere to be found on that sign. Do you know this girl personally?
/r/MensRights28/12/12 08:40 PM
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And if you end up having sex with those people, it's not rape.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 08:40 PM
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What I get from this is she got drunk wearing shorts and had sex whilst inebriated. She classifies this as rape. Her boyfriend didn't approve of her cheating on him, nor did her friends. Maybe I'm wrong, but she doesn't mention dissenting. If it was actual rape, he'd know.
/r/MensRights28/12/12 12:20 AM
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So, women would be in a situation closer to that of men if this law passes? Less reproductive rights and less bodily integrity? I guess that's one way of achieving equality, though I'd prefer the other way around: Bring men's rights up to match those of women.
/r/MensRights27/12/12 12:42 AM
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I was left dumbstruck when I first saw this. I was born in 1989 in Sweden, so I've never experienced a debate between a feminist and a non-feminist where the moderator wasn't also a feminist and actively shut down the debate. Also, how this woman comported herself stood in stark contrast to the manner in which I am used to seeing prominent feminists conduct themselves. I am more accustomed to the likes of Gudrun Schyman and Tiina Rosenberg who when challenged (or even if someone dares to disagre…
/r/MensRights26/12/12 09:59 PM
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This can't be real.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 09:41 PM
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Partner Violence.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:50 PM
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Eloquent and, when broken-down like this, quite true.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 02:13 AM
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I am very much for abortion, I don't think foetuses are persons. That's what makes this so difficult: The only person who was wronged was the rapist and extortionist, and in a way, it was a form of self-defence. But it is still inflicting possible bodily harm on a person. Just because she committed crimes against another person doesn't mean others get to commit crime against her...
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:40 AM
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Still no sign of gender-neutral rape laws that would grant men at least some of the protection women enjoy? I guess not...
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:36 AM
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A terrifying documentary. I cried throughout the film the first two times I saw it.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 01:17 AM
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I understand your point, and I will have to think about this some more. But, as it stands, I still think it was wrong.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 12:33 AM
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There is no way you could possibly know whether the majority of rapists are men or women. Criminal records usually don't include female perpetrators, so that's not a good source. Then, there's the under-reporting issue. But then again, in the US there is a huge stigma against being a rapist and there has been for a number of years. There is no such stigma in India and first there needs to be one. What? Was there ever a time in the US when being a (male) rapist wasn't met with huge stigma? What's…
/r/MensRights25/12/12 09:19 PM
1

It is wrong. Yes, she alledgedly raped him and yes, she alledgedly was going to use the system set up in her favour to make him her wage slave. Those were her faults and the system is at fault for letting her do that, but two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/MensRights25/12/12 09:12 PM
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Apparently, this is not what the court ruled.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 10:18 PM
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Stupid is as stupid does. Buying into the unsubstantiated sex-trafficking myths: Stupid. Getting married as a man knowing the consequences: Stupid and quite gullible.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 08:34 PM
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Noteworthy is that when confronted, the actress immediately used society's biased rape narrative (Woman raping a man? Yeah, right!) to invalidate the accusations levelled against her.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 02:41 PM
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How did you come to the conclusion that most Indian rapists are men? From police records? They will say all rapists are men because the law specifies rape as a crime committed by a man.
/r/MensRights23/12/12 02:23 PM
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How is that gender-neutral rape law coming along, India? How about teaching women it's not OK to rape? That would be a first...
/r/MensRights23/12/12 02:22 PM
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It seems I am late to the party, so to speak. However I'd just like to add: The evil that is in the world almost always comes of ignorance, and good intentions may do as much harm as malevolence if they lack understanding. Albert Camus The fact that you've taken time to listen and try to get the whole picture, and "break free" (so to speak) of the crippling paradigm that pervades our societies regarding sexual violence is a sign of character. Happy Christmas!
/r/MensRights23/12/12 02:18 PM
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No. I just loathe feminism and other forms of gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 06:33 PM
1

What happened was the woman in his office was wearing (in his opinion) provacative clothing in a highly professional work environment. She was also leaving love notes on his desk. He fired her to protect his marriage. This sounds like she was harassing him (presuming he asked her to stop, and she carried on), and I do believe sexual harassment is grounds for dismissal in most places.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 06:26 PM
1

It is not women that are the problem, full stop. It's the laws and the application of them that are at fault.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 06:16 PM
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Since women have periods and give birth, they deserve to be treated better than men! Damn it, why is that so difficult to understand for you stupid, abusive, cheating, lying men?
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:07 PM
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That's alright, I didn't get angry and I didn't mean for it to come off that way.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 02:04 PM
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Did you just compare blaming a sexual demographic to blaming an ideology? I guess we mustn't blame nazism for being antisemitic, that's stereotyping... Feminism is a sexist ideology that functions on faulty premises, that's not stereotyping any more than saying anarchism seeks the abolition of the state. Well, I guess technically it is, but you see: Words have meanings. I can't say that I'm a communist who believes in a class-based hierarchy. There's nothing wrong about blaming an ideology.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:50 PM
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I don't understand how the commentator went from Reedy's story to feminism. Nowhere in the article is it mentioned that Reedy argued for the inclusion of male victims (of female perpetrators? Or just male ones? Once again, the article doesn't say) from a feminist perspective. Indeed, the article, by acknowledging certain facts, can be considered non-feminist or even antifeminist. It acknowledged that rape laws have been and are a case of female privilege, something feminism doesn't grant.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:44 PM
1

Ok, thanks.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 01:26 PM
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As a non-mutilated, intact male it really is no bother to keep clean. It wasn't something I was taught how to do, it just seemed evident...
/r/MensRights21/12/12 11:28 PM
1

But doesn't this definition exclude rape by penetration? If the offender by definition is the one who is penetrated (the one who envelops), only rape by envelopment is considered rape. That's the part I don't understand, as I doubt there's any legislation that excludes rape by penetration.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 11:20 PM
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I don't understand the Victoria definition. In Victoria: A person (the offender) commits rape is they are penetrated by a person (the victim) without the victim's consent. Care to explain?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 12:22 AM
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So is the UN going to abandon its sexist approach in dispensing aid and go egalitarian? Or are they just going to ignore this female privilege as they do all others and keep their feminist stance?
/r/MensRights19/12/12 08:14 PM
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she (and jezebel, by association) are literally trying to rewrite very recent history. Feminists rewrote history prior to the fifties and people bought their lies, now they are getting greedy and are trying to re-write recent and "current" history. An astounding number of people are still buying into it.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 08:00 PM
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Oddly enough, seeing as I am a Swede, I only discovered Pelle Billing after I was quite deeply immersed in the movement. However, his Swedish blog is probably the most prominent men's rights site in Sweden. Especially after Pär Ström felt compelled to quit after the harrassment (and possibly threats) became too overwhelming. I don't agree completely with either of them; Ström had good points about legal discrimination but too often chose to indulge in blaming "societal pressures" (which is not n…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 07:03 PM
1

Will this count as a domestic homocide/manslaughter? Does hiring a hitman to kill your spouse get included in the domestic violence statistics?
/r/MensRights16/12/12 06:43 PM
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indicates that it began as the quest of increasing the rights of women to match those of men Half-true. Increasing the rights of women, bur not to match those of men. You see, women had rights that men didn't have and men had rights women didn't have. These are what can correctly be called privileges. Removing male privileges (by extending them to women) but leaving female privileges be is not equality, nor is it seeking equal rights. Did you read the link? Getting to vote without the obligation…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 08:53 PM
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Classical feminism (for those of you that may not know about the history of the feminist movement) was just as concerned with how the current systems of power harmed men, as how they harmed women. It is only recently, like say, from the year 2000 on, that the modern feminist movement has become entirely hijacked. I disagree entirely, I've seen no proof that any wave of feminism has sought equality. Quite the opposite. Not to mention that the 70s, 80s and 90s feminism was far more overtly misandr…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 09:12 PM
1

He seems to be going by /u/Estephe now.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:37 PM
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Friends from childhood I'm still in touch with? So far, none.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:36 PM
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Well, as I said, I just can't bring myself to care about what feminists think about anything. So, it doesn't matter to me. If it were an opinion piece, I'd be more inclined to agree that her position on an entirely different matter is of significance, but as it stands (at least as it seems), this was merely a letter to the editor pointing out lies about female legal subjugation, correcting them by quoting the actual laws in place. Information is not advice.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:34 PM
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Just see how a lot of men don't take parental leave, because they know their collegues will look down on them, because 'real men don't take parental leave'. Or what about the boys that live in an anti-school culture, because 'real boys' don't use their time doing homework? During my 23 years on this earth I've never encountered any of these views, at least not from my fellow school boys or from my work colleagues (even though I work in a working class male-dominated occupation). That 'real boys'…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 01:59 AM
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The content of the letter had nothing to do with suffrage though. Besides, if the argument is sound, it doesn't matter who said it. Quite a few feminists of today align themselves with Emma Goldman who opposed women's suffrage. Further up I asked about Francis M. Scott's reasons for opposing women's suffrage, this is because there were grounds for opposing it, some of which had some validity. Hers seemed to centre around two things (none of which I'd consider valid or legitimate), namely women's…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 01:28 AM
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She does make an excellent point though, and in the letter she does not advocate against womanhood suffrage. Women had the advantage in laws pertaining to marriage, whereas men were stuck with the responsibilities of marriage. And who says we wonder why feminists hate us? I certainly don't, primarily because I don't care whether they hate me or not.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 01:10 AM
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Why is that? Phyllis Schlafly isn't exactly one to argue for equality in marriage law, is she?
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:37 PM
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Thank you very much.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 08:33 PM
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I am interested in more of this woman's writings, essentially: What were her primary reasons for opposing womanhood federal suffrage (perhaps even regional suffrage)? Did this opposition come from a belief that women were not capable or competent enough for the federal (maybe even for the regional) vote or was it derived from an idea that women's legal privileges were plentiful and of such a nature that granting them the privilege of the federal (perchance also the regional) vote would have resu…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:24 PM
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He had an account on here going by /u/stestephe but it has been inactive for a while now.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:17 PM
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Yes, in a legal context most certainly, and most liklely in a social context. No, I don't feel that women's rights aren't an issue. It's just that I can think of very few cases where women face discrimination. I don't deal very much with race, no. Others do, though, and that is fine. The mother-to-be/mother-not-to-be has the final say in the matter. It'd be jolly nice of her to take his feelings into account, but the decision must be hers. Gynocentrism. In all its forms. I don't believe we can g…
/r/MensRights08/12/12 12:29 AM
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I'm fairly sure he is a feminist, so he hardly needs other feminists to marginalise him, he's already done it himself.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 05:52 PM
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Stellar! Maybe this can help get rid of the idea that women are oppressed in Asian countries, and that those countries "need feminism". Even many MRAs seem to hold this view...
/r/MensRights06/12/12 07:38 PM
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The old feminism was just as sexist as today's feminism. It's the same religion, the same message and the same goals: Increasing female privileges and decreasing male privileges. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GsBg4aW0Ag http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Legal_Subjection_of_Men Feminism was never egalitarian.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 08:41 PM
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The "first wave" wasn't in the 60s... That was the "second wave". The "first wave" was during the later part of the nineteenth century and turn of the century. And, no, they were definitely not for equal rights any more than the "second wave" or the "third wave" was. When I look at the history of feminism I see nothing that supports the claim that they were for equality, ever. I guess you could see it that way if you purposely ignore all the cases of female privilege and male disadvantage at the…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 12:05 AM
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Precisely, then they use that blatant lie to try to pass themselves off as "caring about men". And people are stupid enough to buy into it...
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:36 PM
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But according to feminist theory it can't be sexist when directed at men because "Patriarchy"... Or maybe it's because of "Privilege" or "Penis"? I don't remember, something beginning with capital P anyway.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:33 PM
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I truly believe that the vast majority of people (men and women) share your viewpoint, it's just that they've been deceived by feminist statistics and lies to believe that men can't be victims, that men are perpetrators, that victimisation is caused by masculinity/the societal view of masculinity/the innante nature of men. This is somethig we are taught through media, school, government and other forms of feminist-controlled groups, these messages are so pervasive that barely anyone thinks of qu…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:30 PM
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According to some popular feminist posters it is "the Patriarchy" that holds that men have an inherent urge for sexual assault and violence. Isn't it strange that the only people you ever hear espouse such ideas are feminists then? It's almost as if "the Patriarchy" in this case is just a fictive bogeyman they created in order to have something onto which they could project their own notions and claim that this is what society looks like.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:25 PM
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Since when was feminism about gender equality?
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:22 PM
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Lorena Bobbit and the feminist movement.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:41 PM
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That my masculinity is often measured by how many women I have belittled objectified and demeaned. This is not awareness of men's rights, this is feminism.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 09:23 PM
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Like infant circumcision?
/r/MensRights02/12/12 02:16 PM
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Socially accepted gendered violence shows its ugly face again. Woman (who confesses to being the assailant while claiming to be the victim) blames it on the "Patriarchy". Feminist outrage is nowhere to be found.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 02:14 PM
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Women need to fight violence against women, equality in the work place, the incorrect social views about women, and rights over our own bodies. I'm going to interrupt you here. Men need someone to fight for prevention of violence against men, for equality in education and the workplace for men and boys, for the abolition of incorrect social views about men, and men's right to their own bodies. There's already a plethora of funded programmes for the prevention of violence against women (by men), …
/r/MensRights02/12/12 12:00 AM
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Could you give an example of women facing legal discrimination? I couldn't give a flying fuck what "most feminists" think. My beef is with feminism, not feminists. I vehemently disagree with the premises of their belief system. I find the religion to be based on female chauvinism above all, and one that has nothing at all to do with equality. Not even the "sacred" first-wavers sought equality, but promoted increasing female privileges. So what if many of the feminists you speak with think men sh…
/r/MensRights01/12/12 03:42 PM
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Most of those who go into politics are men, most of those who go into corporate leadership are men, most of those who go into childcare professions are women, most of those who go into engineering are men, most of those who go into drilling for oil are men. I think it's pretty clear that men and women, in general, don't have the same level of interest in different professions. However, no, I did not say that one sex was better suited for leadership positions, but different persons are better or …
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:51 PM
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I said the influences on men should be positive." That's what I mean. Men should receive positive influences. They often don't. Society pays lots of attention to the messaging that women receive, but very little to that received by men. The influences? As in how men and masculinity are presented? In addition, they should be taught to respect women as equals As opposed to superior beings with a higher innate value? The guy in who does this poetry bit - and I agree with him. So Sheldon Cooper is t…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 07:46 PM
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It's not about teaching men to physically and biologically be male; as you point out, that happens naturally. I'm speaking of the social role of "man," which is something that men get educated on every day. I wasn't talking about biologically or physically. Masculinity comes natural to most boys and when they become adults, they become men. It's not something that needs to be taught. This traditional myth that boys become men not by becoming adult but by proving themselves through actions and de…
/r/MensRights29/11/12 11:51 PM
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I'm fairly sure they are not doing it primarily for anyone else...
/r/MensRights29/11/12 10:32 PM
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in favor of a system that protects women against rape No-one isn't... What many are against, though, is a system that protects men against rape. are in favor of equal pay Depends entirely on what you mean. are in favor of equal portrayal of genders in popular culture I don't understand. are in favor of equal representation in leadership roles I'm in favour of those best suited and most willing to get into leadership positions being in those positions. This will most likely result in an uneven se…
/r/MensRights29/11/12 07:41 PM
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Teaching boys how to be men is one of the biggest components of ending violence against women, and it's something that feminists 100% support. This makes no sense... How does teaching someone to be what they are (teach a monkey to be a monkey, I think it will figure it out on its own) decrease violence? And violence against a specific group? And only perpetrated by a specific group? Women don't assault other women? And you speak for all feminists? The feminists that create public policy don't be…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 09:20 PM
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Feminist theory would say that that's because society thinks of females as less valuable, thusly it's degrading to want to be feminine. If we were to return to the turn of the century, people would be appalled to see a woman wearing men's clothing. Yet, we are told, women were considered even "less valuable" then. I think the feminist theory on this (as with all other things they decide to come up with a perfectly unreasonable explanation based on their premise of Patriarchy) is rubbish.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:05 PM
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I don't have a clear understanding of what masculism is as it is a non-existant ideology, and I don't partake in ideologies (this is what I meant by not agreeing with it, poor writing on my part). Men's rights advocacy is quite simply what it says: advocating for men's rights. No ideology is necessary, and thus we also don't have to agree on certain premises and "theories" that serve as axioms.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 08:41 PM
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It is allowed, even encouraged.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 10:14 PM
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I don't agree with masculism, it is an ideology and will have unfalsifiable premises on which its theories and political aims are based. It, essentially, has the potential to be the same thing as feminism. I wouldn't want to be a part of anything like that.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:54 PM
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look at countries like South Africa where 1 in 2 women can expect to be raped. Two questions: How did they determine if it was rape? What counted as rape? I ask this because most rape studies are conducted by ideologues who wish to inflate the numbers. What did they say about male victimisation? Was it included? I ask this because most rape studies don't include male victimisation or female perpetration. Prison rape is more likely to occur in female prisons and jails (higher rates), though far m…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:52 PM
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You are denying that women have always enjoyed the privilege of being exempt from military conscription? The vast majority of victims of violence (don't know how individuals being affected by violence is discrimination against a group, but I digress) are men. Rape and domestic violence perpetration and victimisation are not very far from equal between the sexes, it is female privileges (legal as well as societal) that have caused the view that these are gendered crimes.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:42 PM
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Women weren't able to take part in democratic representation until 1920 in the U.S Untrue. State elections allowed women to vote (not all states). Federal elections, on the other hand. But the reasons for this were many. Conscription and rate-paying were amongst them. How many women were conscripted? How many women were enslaved by their government and sent off to serve as "cannon fodder"? Today, only 20% of senators are women. What this has to do with anything I don't know. It's one of those ar…
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:34 PM
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Depends on what type of MGM and what type of FGM.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:14 PM
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Thank you for the clarification, I misinterpreted.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:01 PM
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I see, thank you for explaining.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 09:01 PM
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I'm male. I'm 22 years old. I'm predominantly heterosexual. I'm cisgendered. I'm white. I'm Swedish (not Swedish-American). I'm "working class". I'm atheist. I'm antifeminist. I don't have a party affiliation. What exactly does LGBTQ-supporter mean? I don't support people for being bisexual anymore than I support people for being hetero or homosexual, etc... Do I count as an LGBTQ-supporter? I don't think sexuality (or sex or race) determines a person's worth or what rights they should or should…
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:52 PM
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I think male genital mutilation is way too commonplace in places like the US. Perhaps it's just poorly worded but one instance is one too many. We don't need to reduce the prevalence, we need to outlaw the procedure altogether.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:19 PM
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He was a weightlifter, nowadays he's a television presenter.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:01 PM
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Quite right!
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:42 AM
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women and girls are disproportionately and differently impacted by disasters. Differently as in the first ones to be rescued and less likely to die; disproportionately as in the men and boys were the majority of fatalities, so women and girls make up a disproportionate amount of the surviving victims. That's the only reasoning I can come up with.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:22 AM
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So domestic abuse and rape are incidents of male violence? Women cannot commit rape or domestic abuse? I see... Feminism, it's a dogmatic religion based on sexist chauvinist beliefs with the sole aim of female power at the expense of everyone else.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:16 AM
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Shoudn't she be free to do as she pleases as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights? It is disrespectful and infuriating, yes, but so is not taking her freedom of speech/expression into consideration.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 02:12 AM
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FYI, this holds true in the whole UK. English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish law all dictate rape is a sex-specific crime.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 01:59 AM
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Most journalists are sensationalists, in my experience. I was half-joking ;)
/r/MensRights24/11/12 03:20 PM
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This was part of a campaign in the 70s for fathers to take out more of the parental leave. This is in favour of paternity leave, though optional one. Today's debate in Sweden on parental leave is about something more sinister: whether the government should legislate that approximately half of the parental leave given to the parents must be taken out by/given to the father or if they should let parents decide what's best for their family. This poster has more to do with föräldraförsäkringen (pare…
/r/MensRights24/11/12 03:12 PM
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His name is Lennart Dahlgren, more commonly known as Hoa Hoa. He's someone quite famous in Sweden. This was in the 70s, he no longer has that hair.
/r/MensRights24/11/12 03:06 PM
1

It seems to me that art is a fairly subjective subject (no pun intended), are there any guidelines in general for how the teacher is to grade the work? I thought your drawing looked good, though I'm no artist or expert in the field. I find it tedious and dull, I was more into maths and languages in school.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 08:15 PM
2

I believe they call it journalism...
/r/MensRights23/11/12 08:10 PM
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What's the source for the 70% stat? The latest I heard (last year) was 53% girls and 47% boys.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 07:33 PM
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Given that in the Patriarchy, men have a dominant role whenever a man explains suggests says something to a woman he is committing an act of violence against her. His mansplaining is oppressing her speech, thus she attacked him in self-defence. And for all we know, this could have been going on for years, he might have talked to her every day, several times a day for a very long time, so the abuse she was facing accumulated until she snapped. Clearly this is a case of Battered Woman's Syndrome. …
/r/MensRights21/11/12 09:13 PM
1

I don't believe in "Patriarchy", thus getting rid of an inextant entity won't solve anything. I advocate equality under the law. I don't criticise the "Patriarchy aspect of feminism", I reject it, and thus I reject all of feminism. Feminism is Patriarchy Theory, that's what differentiates it from women's rights advocacy. Women's rights advocacy is what it's called, feminism is women's rights/privileges advocacy on the premise of Patriarchy theory (women are disadvantaged in society and men are p…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 08:17 PM
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I wasn't aware the MRM had decided on an ideological "theory" to be the axiom of all gender issues... I was only aware of the political goal of men gaining equal rights and protection under the law. Feminism is a women's privilege movement which uses lies as a means to promote their unproven hypothesis of Patriarchy Theory. Just so we're clear on this: I don't care what so-called radical feminists have said and say any more than I care what so-called moderate feminists have said and say. This is…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:29 AM
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I have no quarrel with women's rights group (as long as they don't lie or advocate for privileges), but feminism is an evil religion, so fuck feminism!
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:55 AM
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You're a man, aren't you? Then of course, you wish to rape your children. I thought a few faces were missing on the latest Patriarchy-get-together...
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:52 AM
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When was it he said this?
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:51 AM
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while demanding cuts to programs that benefit women. Well, at least they got that one right.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 12:11 AM
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I found it funny, but I like offensive humour.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 09:12 PM
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As has been stated before: It is unclear whether the new definition includes the most common type of rape committed by women and against men: Rape by envelopment.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 08:39 PM
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Replying in two parts because my reply was too long. Part 2: Because. It. Doesn't. Exist. Condoms. And the male pills. I understand they are not available on the markets. They should be. But they aren't. Actually, that was my mistake, they are available, though not freely or easily. First you claim they don't exist, then that they do but are not available. How can men have the right to access contraception if it doesn't exist for them? And now, they're back to not existing? Condoms, and male pil…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 01:56 AM
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Responding to two parts because my reply was too long. Part 1: Note, just because you claim men don't suffer discrimination and I then argue men do suffer discrimination (and even oppression), doesn't mean I don't think women also suffer discrimination in the third world, something I explicitly stated in my first and second reply to you. So, I still don't understand why you are arguing something I haven't argued against. So far the only way that men are discriminated against that women aren't. F…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 01:55 AM
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Yeah, but that's not oppression. Repression and harassment, perhaps, but not oppression.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 02:40 PM
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Warren spoke positively about feminism, congratulating it on its success in broadening the options for women. He is still a feminist, and is definitely not deserving of the pure livid hate of the people seen here. So if you're not a feminist, you're deserving of hate? yet were actively oppressing our right to talk about male issues. Oppressing?
/r/MensRights17/11/12 12:51 PM
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Swedish, working class, male. My political views are varied, I would not have voted for neither Obama nor Romney, though.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 12:57 AM
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I was too busy oppressing women to do anything else.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 11:25 PM
1

I hope you're right.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 11:21 PM
4

This entire argument relies on the belief that feminism is about gender equality, and not female chauvinism and sexism.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 11:19 PM
1

Just curious, can you get a licence if you don't sign up with the Selective Service?
/r/MensRights16/11/12 11:17 PM
1

You're welcome! Are you interested in Swedish or just curious?
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:44 PM
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First off, did you read my response? Because you seem to repeat what you said in the comment I replied to whitout refuting any of what I've said, and to add a few things. Once again, how are they not oppressed? Do you wish me to name all the ways in which women are not oppressed? Because, that could take a while. It's a very strange request as it is virtually impossible to prove a negative. But, here're some examples of non-oppression of women in third-world countries: They're not conscripted; t…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:43 PM
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Människosläktet/Mänskosläktet or människan are the most common ways to say it, I'd think.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 07:50 PM
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Feminists blame everything on "the Patriarchy", I guess it's easy to pin all ills of the world on an artificial bogeyman you've made up, as long as you can get others to believe in it...
/r/MensRights15/11/12 08:37 PM
1

Women in third-world countries are not oppressed, this fact doesn't in any way take away from the discrimination women face there. But men are also discriminated against there and even oppressed in certain countries (conscription, that is an actual case of oppression). I wasn't saying you were violating men's rights, I said that gynocentrism is a cause for violations of men's rights. And how am I being gynocentric [...] by saying women should have the right to contraception? That is a case of gy…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 08:31 PM
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In the UK women cannot be charged with rape, so her opinion on the matter doesn't change this legal privilege for British women.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:58 AM
1

Do MRA's believe that women are not oppressed in third-world countries? Some of us do, including me, believe that women aren't oppressed in third-world countries; they are like men, discriminated against in certain instances and discriminated for in others. But the reason I'd guess you're downvoted is because of your overall gynocentrism. Gynocentrism, both in its political form and its cultural form is a main cause for female privileges and violations of men's rights.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:53 AM
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My grandmother (maternal; another thing with Swedish, we differentiate between maternal 'mormor' and paternal 'farmor' grandmothers, as with grandfathers: 'morfar' and 'farfar') always refers to dogs as feminine and cats as masculine, which confused me seeing as the cat my family had was female and the dog was male... Normally, we don't attribute grammatical genders to nouns in Swedish (other than when we wish to distinguish between males and females in a species, most commonly with humans), but…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:28 AM
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Sort of, though it can be taken the wrong way and I guess some people might feel insulted at being referred to as it. Hen, I believe, is the Finnish thrid person singular pronoun. They don't, once more I believe (I don't speak much Finnish), have gendered pronouns.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 12:04 AM
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Part of the reason why feminists are so against the MRA movement You say this as if it's a bad thing...
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:56 PM
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The thing that really does my head in about this is that we already have gender-neutral pronouns in Swedish: Den/Det. When I grew up, and we didn't know the sex of a person we referred to them as den instead of hon (she) or han (he).
/r/MensRights14/11/12 11:53 PM
1

Why didn't they divide the victims of terrorist attacks and war casualties by sex? And why didn't they add a section for men killed by their wives and girlfriends? And why didn't they add the total number of homicides? And how about adding the relevant populations as well: US population versus US troops stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Also, I thought that the "war on women" was not forcing employers to pay for their employee's birth control if they are morally opposed to it, and women paying …
/r/MensRights13/11/12 12:16 AM
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Here's the thing: Society teaches that female rape is the worst thing a man can do. So, what good would telling men what they already know do? I think it'd make more sense to start teaching girls and women that it's not okay for them to rape, seeing as so many don't think it's possible to rape a man or for a woman to commit rape. Meanwhile, my mother tells me every time we meet that I should be careful when I'm out at night. This is common sense to me: Don't go out alone, don't wander off with p…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 11:52 PM
2

And now you've changed your mind again. Are you discussing prevalence or acceptance?
/r/MensRights11/11/12 11:40 PM
1

A documentary with Michael Palin about the senseless waste of male lives during the last day of "The Great War". Seeing as it is Remembrance Day, I thought it fitting.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 11:39 PM
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The post claimed that men causing their wives harm was not widely accepted before the rise of the domestic violence industry and that they were in fact punished for it, severely and brutally. I don't know how you reached the conclusion that the prevalence was what was brought into question, as the post only looked into acceptance of "wife-beating". And concluded that it was not widely accepted. What cartoons showed it was wide-spread? And if the sources were not relevant or proved your red herri…
/r/MensRights11/11/12 11:33 PM
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There's no reason to fear women, any more than there is a reason to fear whites, or straight people. Most women don't use their privileges enshrined in law to intentionally hurt you. The vast majority of women are good people who are kind and loving. Your fears are irrational.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 09:35 PM
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I fail to see how most of your sources are relevant... First you bring up the rule-of-thumb-myth, then temperance propaganda, then bible and koran quotes that seemingly have nothing to do with DV, then rape and homicide statistics lacking of context, then a number of laws stating wives had protection from 'dangerous' violence by husbands and then legal documents about coverture.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 07:57 PM
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Ehm, men are told to do everything on that list. Apart from carrying weapons, but that is because that's illegal where I live. Gynocentrism...
/r/MensRights11/11/12 06:48 PM
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If anyone has any more information on this group, please let me know. I'd be very interested learning more about them.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 06:32 PM
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A privilege means "private law", it is a law that doesn't apply to everyone; which benefits a class of people or even only certain persons. There are as we speak, very few (if any) male privileges in effect in the West. Female privileges, however persist and even increase (opposing them or arguing for them to be extended to men, effectively becoming rights, is met with accusations of misogyny). For reference, see reproductive rights (actually reproductive privileges; only women have reproductive…
/r/MensRights10/11/12 03:50 PM
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That's because the law in the UK specifies rape as a crime committed by a man. Women can't be charged with rape.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 12:15 AM
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know felt like their rights were threatened this election. Actually, it was certain women's privileges that were "threatened". Meanwhile, men still don't have any of those privileges... But I guess that doesn't count as a war on men.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 08:24 PM
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That depends entirely on how you define "getting the vote". Women received unconditional universal suffrage before men in Sweden, yes. And I wouldn't exactly call it shocking, many countries have male suffrage conditional on mandatory military service and other factors.
/r/MensRights08/11/12 08:13 PM
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property. wards. Your buzzwords won't win you an argument. Especially not when they are false...
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:58 PM
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You are comparing hating feminism with hatred of men as if they are even close to equivalent. I am proud to hate feminism, it is a sexist dogmatic ideology/religion and we'd all be better off without it. If you continue to fly under the MRA label, then you'll be counted in the statistics as one of those people who stand against the feminism movement. Good, that's where I want to be. I'd wager most MRAs have at least a dislike for feminism and quite a few of us are directly antifeminist. That sai…
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:56 PM
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Is there any sort of data on how many years transpired between women getting universal suffrage in national/federal elections and men getting the vote on equal terms (that is, without the condition of military service or self-sufficiency) on average? I only know it was 4-5 years in my country, Sweden; women received unconditional universal suffrage in 1918/19 and men shortly followed in 1923 after one election.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:43 PM
2

Yep, any century now.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:05 PM
2

You might want to point out that the SPLC never claimed the MRM was a hate group or this subreddit for that matter, that's just how some bigots chose to interpret an article written by a biased feminist supporter.
/r/MensRights07/11/12 08:03 PM
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Most of what gamers say hurts women and gay people specifically. IMO, the most common slurs and taunts are "i'm going to rape you/you got raped/rape the shit out of them/ RAAAAPE" or the word "faggot". Your second sentence contradicts your first one. In what way is rape hurting women specifically? If, as according to you, the most common slurs and taunts are "RAPE" and "Faggot", then women are not specifically targetted. I can understand gay people (men), with the 'faggot'-thing. What this boils…
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:23 PM
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I hope the state plans to fairly compensate her for stealing 12 years of her life and completely ruining her. The other three are still locked up? Why?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 07:36 PM
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He sounds like a swell teacher, but: I love you Mr. Steel, even if you gave me a C last quarter for not doing half of my homework. Is grading based on completion of prep/homework where you live? I was under the impression it is not supposed to be, and I know for a fact that where I live it is not, though it still happens.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 09:21 PM
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I agree with Josiekiller, it seems from the account given that the sex was consensual and the "victim" had only himself to blame if he regretted it later. And I agree that if the sexes were reversed it would probably be construed as rape and that Josiekiller's comment would be construed as "victim-blaming". But I don't want women to suffer the same sort of hatred and social discrimination men suffered in days past or today, I just want men to be freed from this discrimination and the hatred to b…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 09:17 PM
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Anyway, just as men should not make laws about a woman's body, Ok then, let's legalise FGC! Seeing as it was criminalised by a male-dominated legislature, men effectively made a law about women's bodies. And women who have undergone genital cutting (even the most severe form, infibulation) still experience sexual pleasure, they can still have sex and give birth, so clearly this is not mutilation. As a side-note, fuck you, you're a horrible person who should have your fingertips cut off, it doesn…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 07:35 PM
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Women! I was right! Where's my prize? And a year after Hurricane Katrina, the average earnings of women of color declined as well. The Tulane report notes that “the median earnings of White, Black/African American and Hispanic/Latino men increased. In contrast, only the average earnings of White women showed a slight increase; the median earnings of Black/ African American women and Hispanic/Latinas fell.” I'm just guessing here, but could this not have anything to do with the fact that there wa…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:32 PM
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I agree, and I don't think the upper half of the analogy is relevant or helpful, but the lower half is precisely what we should be talking about when it comes to rape legislation (that, and gender-neutrality, of course).
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:20 PM
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The upper half is less than helpful and unnecessary, but the lower half is to the point!
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:15 PM
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All this makes me jealous, because breast cancer and ovarian cancer aren't getting the same treatment. What does she mean? She's not satisfied with breast cancer research receiving, what, five to ten times the funding that prostate cancer research does?
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:11 PM
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Also, given a situation when I have to seek help from either an unshaved guy or a clean-shaven man, I would definitely trust the latter because he would seem safer. Ok..? Is that supposed to be negatively affecting bearded men? 'You have a beard so I won't ask you for help!' Good.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:21 PM
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Doesn't the father get custody in beth din?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 08:42 PM
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What does what happened to you when you were a toddler have to do with Legal Paternal Surrender? Seriously, what do you think your situation has to do with what was discussed?
/r/MensRights02/11/12 08:13 PM
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Gynocentricity combined with misandry, it's at the root of all men's issues.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 08:14 PM
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The female equivalent of vasectomies are not abortions (how the fuck did they come up with that?), it's tubectomies. If anyone still believed elected officials are smart and good people, think again.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 07:43 PM
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Would that be the same video where she said MRAs were not 'being men about it'?
/r/MensRights31/10/12 12:16 AM
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Considering rape is legally defined as male-perpetrated in Afghanistan, it is impossible to know how many men (or women) are raped by women there. So, how do you know that number doesn't exceed the number of dancing boys? Anyway, the reason for excluding female perpetration in these posters is simple. The organisation is called Men can stop rape, they don't believe in female perpetration, they're stuck in the gynocentric narrative supported by most legislations and spewed by female chauvinists e…
/r/MensRights31/10/12 12:00 AM
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I believe around 40% of raped male inmates are raped by female prison guards. So, prison rape (even if included, which it was not in the poster campaign) would not skew the stats to such a degree... Anyway, the reason for the denial of female perpetration is in the name of the organisation: Men can stop rape. It has nothing to do with inclusion or not of prison statistics, it has everything to do with a false narrative being pushed to further the feminist agenda. If you believe men single-handed…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 10:18 PM
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What purpose would it have served? Wasn't conscription enacted at the outbreak of WW2 in Britain?
/r/MensRights30/10/12 10:13 PM
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Women. As in the rest of the world.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:45 PM
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Are you an idiot?
/r/MensRights30/10/12 08:17 PM
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I can only answer for myself: I am for legalisation, full legalisation. I live in Sweden, here selling sexual services is legal, buying them is illegal. So when I say full legalisation I mean selling or buying sexual services should be legal. If you'd rather sell sex than work at McDonald's, you should be able to do that and the government shouldn't interfere in your interaction with your potential customers.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 12:52 AM
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I was sexually harassed in school by an older sister of a friend. She'd chase me around trying to grab my crotch and shouting she wanted to see my penis. I've never witnessed anything like that done towards a girl or woman. This was done openly, in front of teachers and fellow students, no-one intervened. Most just looked away or laughed. This went on for about a year until she left the school. I've been propositioned by drunk girls to "accompany them home" during my former brief period of emplo…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 12:45 AM
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If anyone needed any further proof of the sexism inherent to feminism, look at the male feminist who brought up marital rape and the two women sitting next to him. They considered this oppression of women, so then Tom brought up that rape laws probably didn't protect husbands from marital rape either prior to 1991. To which the women responded by saying "you/women cannot rape a man" (I am sad to say that they are completely correct and that the law supports their position and that Tom is in fact…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:57 AM
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I am a Swede, we got rid of our draft in 2010. When the decision was made to end the draft our minister of defence Sten Tolgfors, a man who himself had been a consciencious objector and opposed to conscription publicly stated that this decision meant the end to the last institutionalised discrimination against women. That's right, here's a man who had been subjected to a violation of his rights due to his sex, but he chose to refer to it as a slight against women. This is how deeply entrenched s…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 12:35 AM
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Maybe you would care to explain how the fact that the president/prime minister is male makes being male "much better ,or a privilege"? After you've explained that to me, please say it to a conscript or an infant boy who's just undergone genital mutilation. Then you can walk up to a father who's recovering from his suicide attempt because he hasn't seen his children in over two years after they were stolen from him by the courts and the mother of his children. Or better yet, tell his parents how …
/r/MensRights28/10/12 11:49 PM
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A very disappointing attempt at egalitarianism from feminists. Instead of dealing with actual issues of institutional legal discrimination (virtually all suffered by men in the West), they pull gynocentric bollocks like this. For every boy struggling not to let advertising dictate his desires, there is a girl facing the ad industry's attacks on her self-esteem. Because looking at advertising, boys are not fed with images of how they are supposed to look or act. Only girls have any sort of pressu…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 07:36 PM
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And people will still believe that utter nonsense. It boggles the mind really.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 06:10 PM
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Youtube link to a BBC documentary revealing the vilification of fathers in the past century.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 06:06 PM
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And you believe feminism or political gynocentrism would somehow fix the issues men face in Muslim or Indian society? How are those gender-neutral rape laws coming along? How about Domestic violence laws? Conscription? Genital mutilation? Alimony laws? In the Middle East, there is discrimination against both sexes, feminism will only do to those societies what it has done to Western Societies: rectify female discrimination and ignore or increase male discrimination. I don't want any part of it w…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 05:00 PM
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She doesn't need feminism for the men who are stoned? Or the men who are conscripted? Or raped by their wives or other women with no legal remedy? Etc... Is she going to completely ignore that half of the problem? I also don't understand her definition of "patriarchy", it seems somewhat undefined and arbitrary. This is not men's rights advocacy, it's not even antifeminism, this is gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights28/10/12 04:44 PM
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It's 1-in-3 now?
/r/MensRights28/10/12 03:14 PM
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This can't be real. Are people really this stupid? Ok, I get the hypocrisy of woman cheating (confessed) = man's fault, man cheating (unproven allegation) = men are scum. This is a very prevalent attitude in society. And falsely accusing a man of rape to cover your own back, I can see unscrupulous women who are either mentally ill or taught to use their social privilege at the expense of those disadvantaged. It happens, but her leaving clear evidence for not only that criminal act but also for h…
/r/MensRights28/10/12 03:11 PM
1

Here's where I heard it.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 06:34 PM
0

What was wrong with what Rivard said? He offered some advice his father had told him when he came of age to seek out sexual relations with women: Some women who have consensual sex might, for whatever reason, regret it later and call it rape and you should be cautious when you choose to engage in sexual activities, for this reason amongst others. Nothing wrong with that, neither offensive nor false. It is quite simply stating a truth that has been proven time and time again. Not all rape accusat…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 11:11 PM
0

Not to mention that male foetuses are aborted for sex-selection purposes far more often than female foetuses in the US... The latest number I heard was 80% male foetuses / 20% female foetuses.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:54 PM
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Ever heard of Patriarchy Theory? The foundation of all things feminism.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 09:54 PM
2

In fact, the link I gave you was only partially written by Belfort Bax, as is stated in the text: I HAVE been usually credited with being the chief author of the following brochure. Such, however, is not the case. "The Legal Subjection of Men" is in great part the work of an Irish barrister and LL.D. of Dublin, who died a few years ago. That portions here and there are from my pen is true, but for the bulk of the pamphlet I am not directly responsible, as any expert in literary style will probab…
/r/MensRights21/10/12 04:33 PM
1

Yes, but remember what feminists tell us: Rape laws have historically favoured men over women! Even though rape laws in and of themselves were (and still are) a clear case of female privilege...
/r/MensRights21/10/12 04:30 PM
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For the attrition rate being misrepresented as conviction rate (only for female rape), here's one.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 01:32 AM
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So having laws set up to specifically benefit you and specifically protect you makes you not privileged? That's strange, since that's the opposite of privilege...
/r/MensRights21/10/12 01:29 AM
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Family law, rape laws, domestic violence laws (no longer part of regular assault and battery laws, mind you), reproductive laws, laws conceringin genital integrity, suffrage (depending on how you look at it), etc... Similarities are scarce, for obvious reasons. Can you name some similarities between atheists and Christians?
/r/MensRights21/10/12 01:07 AM
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While this might have been true 100 years ago, I cannot believe this having read up on the situation some 100 years ago. I suggest you read some Belfort Bax. This sentiment is a product of feminist historical revisionism.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 01:04 AM
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The conviction rate for date rape is actually very low. No, it's not. Please, I beg of you, don't repeat the oft-told lie that the conviction rate is 6%... That's the attrition rate (in some places), the conviction rate for female rape was somewhere close to 60% last time I looked.
/r/MensRights21/10/12 01:03 AM
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Is there anything about making rape laws gender-neutral on the agenda?
/r/MensRights20/10/12 01:10 PM
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Remember! Men having the role of provider is misogynist! Strange how we demand quotas and affirmative action for women in high-earning safe jobs, but never these occupations...
/r/MensRights17/10/12 08:15 PM
2

I have no idea who Violentacrez was, but from what I've read I gather he had subreddits where photos of women were submitted. How is it any different from the tabloids? Or r/ladyboners or a myriad of other subreddits where pictures are posted without the consent of the ones in the picture? Did he do something illegal? What else did he do besides posting pictures of women? Because if that's it, he ain't got nothing on newspapers and internet media.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 11:35 PM
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Did I hear that right? The young blonde says she doesn't believe in punching, especially women?
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:15 PM
4

Oh, look, a new definition for feminism... Kurt Cobain was also "man enough" to blow his brains out...
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:03 PM
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Thanks, I wasn't initially going to respond, since I've grown tired of the "war on women" rubbish people are peddling, but then I re-read it and realised she'd actually written that prior to 1994 women couldn't sue anyone for assaulting them. Then all the other stuff felt necessary to include as well.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:00 PM
0

Yes.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:34 PM
2

None of these laws you enumerate are actual laws, they are at best propositions. As of right now, there are laws seeking to take away reproductive rights that we have, That should read reproductive privileges, because in case you didn't know men don't have any. So how exactly are the laws regarding the issue against women? laws that treat the life of a pregnant woman as less than a fetus, No, the laws would give foetuses personhood whereby they get the right to life. That is in no way treating t…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 02:20 AM
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Gynocentrism, society has always stood to gain more from keeping women safe than men being safe. This sentiment is shamelessly exploited by several groups and agencies for their own political or monetary gain.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 10:07 PM
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I still doubt it is a "growing" problem, I just believe more and more men are coming forward and that attitudes are slowly changing.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 07:10 PM
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Good response.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 07:09 PM
1

In case you hadn't already heard. It is not at all certain that men commit the majority of sexual assault, as long as the narrative surrounding crime in general and sexual assault/rape in particular, we will never know.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 03:02 PM
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This is the result of the actualisation of male hormonal impulses? Oh, I get it: Male privilege! Actually, FAR MORE civilians are killed in war than are soldiers, and these civilians are overwhelmingly women (mostly mothers) and children. Where does he get this "fact" from? I am pretty sure most civilian fatalities are male in war, seeing as they are targetted while troops usually try to shield and protect women and children. This would probably be one of the main causes for the situation Iraqi …
/r/MensRights14/10/12 02:16 AM
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Seeing as you seem to support the cause, I will not comment on my thoughts on feminism, and just assume that you mean women's rights activism. With that said: Jolly good show!
/r/MensRights13/10/12 11:13 PM
1

But men don't have to assume all women are rapists? I'd point out men are raped by women in comparable rates to women being raped by men. And that their sexism in ignoring this fact is bigotry.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 08:10 PM
2

Yes, it would probably result in a rise in false accusations. It is also a hypocritical view to hold: The foetus has a right to life, unless it was conceived through rape... Anyway, can the president and the VP just revoke Roe v. Wade? Doesn't it have to go through congress and whatnot?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:43 PM
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which is comparable to the egregious violation of a person's rights represented in the anti-abortion movement Genital mutilation? Conscription?
/r/MensRights12/10/12 07:14 PM
2

Where does your friend live where people are not told not to rape?
/r/MensRights11/10/12 07:34 PM
3

"He also told me one thing, 'If you do (have premarital sex), just remember, consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry,' " Rivard said. "Because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant and the parents are madder than a wet hen and she's not going to say, 'Oh, yeah, I was part of the program.' All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underage. And he just said, 'Remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls,' he said, 'they rape so easy.…
/r/MensRights11/10/12 06:37 PM
6

What's the source for 70% out-of-school youth being girls? The latest figure I heard (from Musikhjälpen's campaign here in Sweden) was 53% girls...
/r/MensRights10/10/12 11:50 PM
1

No, I don't share the beliefs of feminism (Patriarchy Theory, and the likes), and therefore even if it were gender egalitarianism, I could not support it or call myself one.
/r/MensRights10/10/12 07:21 PM
8

The comments... Dear God!
/r/MensRights09/10/12 07:18 PM
3

I see you've already received several sources, I didn't see these listed though: http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf
/r/MensRights08/10/12 11:22 PM
2

Cannot upvote enough!
/r/MensRights08/10/12 08:22 PM
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I just don't understand why he didn't know that would make her feel so uncomfortable. Male privilege, that's why!
/r/MensRights08/10/12 08:18 PM
1

Whenever Amy Winehouse pops up regarding her domestic abuse, I keep thinking of this song.
/r/MensRights08/10/12 07:37 PM
3

Here are some of the possible factors found in a study made by a Swedish teacher and professor: Flickors bättre klassrumsuppförande, även om Skolverket betonar att "närvaro, flit, ambition, läxläsning, lektionsarbete med mera inte ska vara en grund för betygsättningen". Girls' better behaviour in the classroom, even though the Office for Education (loosely translated; Skolverket is the State authority on education) stresses that "attendance, diligence, ambition, completion of homework/prep, work…
/r/MensRights07/10/12 10:18 PM
2

In Sweden, Men's Rights Advocates/Activists, by and large, go by the name jämställdister. It is derived from the word jämställdhet, which means equality. So I guess, in a way, you could say that we are calling ourselves Equalitarians.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 06:22 PM
2

The perpetual continuation of gynocentrism. So, never.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 04:58 PM
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Well, I think she's right. She has a right to her own opinion and as long as she admits that it is a sexist opinion, she is fully entitled to holding said opinion.
/r/MensRights07/10/12 03:37 PM
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Monash University you say? Hmm...
/r/MensRights07/10/12 01:49 AM
2

considering 90% of the time a wife is killed the husband is the murderer. Source?
/r/MensRights07/10/12 01:38 AM
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No, I don't think the ideology of feminism is compatible with the goals of men's rights. But, then again, I am an antifeminist. Women's rights and men's rights though are perfectly compatible, as they should strive for the same things: Legal equality. Whenever either transgresses the stated goal of legal equality, it turns into women's privileges and men's privileges.
/r/MensRights06/10/12 11:21 PM
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For prison rape and for rape in the general population. In conclusion, when it comes to rape in the general population, men are more likely to be raped by women and women are more likely to be raped by men. This pans out to about 40% female perpetrators and 60% male perpetrators. In prison settings, women are more likely to be raped by women and men by men. But a sizeable rate of both male and female inmates are raped by members of the opposite sex (female guards raping male inmates and male gua…
/r/MensRights03/10/12 10:35 PM
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If so, they should not be allowed to take a taxi home or get on a bus, since that requires they make a transaction of money to the taxi driver/bus driver. And as they cannot consent to that, the driver is robbing them. Besides, how do you know that someone is blacked-out? Is there some secret sign that shows up on people's foreheads when they have lost the ability to memorise current events? And keep the ad-hominems coming.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 10:15 PM
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You give consent the same way you usually give it: by saying yes. How else did you think? The only difference between a blacked-out person saying something and a sober person saying/doing something is that the sober person will (most likely) remember saying/doing it, whereas the blacked-out person won't.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 06:56 PM
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they try to completely deny that rape ever happens (except to MEN! in prison!....as if that's somehow women's fault?) Well, yes, since women commit a sizeable amount of rapes against male inmates and the majority of rapes against men outside prison are also committed by women, I'd say that it is women's fault for raping men. Not all women's fault, but the women who commit the rapes are definitely responsible.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 12:10 AM
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Or maybe they disregarded it because it doesn't fit their pre-conceived notions or their agenda. You know, like ideologues do... Can't be arsed with facts when there's fear-mongering and false statistics to be dished out.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:58 PM
3

Thank you, I hope you win. If for nothing else, then for your stance on infant circumcision! Good luck and break a leg, come November. :)
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:56 PM
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Man who is promiscuous: Cad Creep Rapey Womaniser Player Uses women Selfish and unfeeling Man who is not promiscuous, doesn't have sex: Virgin Creep Rapey Mama's boy Afraid of women Cowardly and selfish Oh, wait, we mustn't interrupt her in her gynocentric diatribe.
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:54 PM
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Not from NH, or even the US for that matter, but curious. What is your opinion on infant circumcision? Also, are rape laws egalitarian or sex-specific in NH? Can both men and women be both victims and perpetrators? And is the crime defined as penetration or does it also include envelopment?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:42 PM
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Yes, you can. If you, while blacked-out, take out your wallet, say 'Here you go!' and hand them the money, you have given them the money. You have not been robbed. If you are passed-out, this is obviously impossible, as you have then lost consciousness. But if you're blacked-out, it just means you'll have no recollection of the events. Not sure what GFY means... No equation was made between the two scenarios, and you arguing there was is as dishonest as your previous attempts to misconstrue. You…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:33 PM
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Titeln stämmer inte överens med innehållet i artikeln. Det stod inget om att arbetsgivare hade rätt att sparka anställda ifall de tog preventivmedel för att förhindra graviditet. Det verkar som att detta är ytterligare ett exempel på sensationalism, inte journalism. Precis som allt annat som rör det så kallade 'Kriget mot kvinnor'. Iallafall, detta är återigen inte ett exempel på att kvinnor bestraffas för att de är kvinnor. Detta handlar om att arbetsgivare som är emot preventivmedel och abort …
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:18 PM
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Wow, you are really thick, aren't you? You just keep misconstruing what is being said, I am beginning to believe you do it on purpose. Giving someone sex is not a crime. Robbing someone is. Equally true and equally irrelevant to what is being discussed. Ok, I'm going to try to get through your rape-culture-paranoia-induced stupidity again: Scenario 1: You are drunk. You are propositioned for sex. You accept. You have sex. You've been raped, according to you. Scenario 2: You are drunk. You are as…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 11:06 PM
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I've never encountered the position you claim exists. Thus, in my reality, where I live it is not an actual problem. But, you're right, we're done. I've already made my point: Even if it were some hypothetical problem it does not in any way justify the sexism of the poster. You've chosen not to adress that point any of the times I brought it up to instead keep claiming that this problem exists in your reality. It seems you think your reality is more relevant than mine, not only to you, but to me…
/r/MensRights02/10/12 10:54 PM
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So, you've been robbed if you give someone money while drunk?
/r/MensRights02/10/12 07:01 PM
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It's not an actual problem in my reality, and even if it were, it would not justify the blatant sexism. Please don't act like it does!
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:18 PM
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Yes, also very important. You don't want to ruin the child's relationship with the other parent.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:05 PM
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Well, yes. So, blacked out and passed out can be used interchangeably? To be quite honest, I did not know that. Blacked out, to me, has always meant you have no recollection of the events. Whereas passed out's meant lost consciousness.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:04 PM
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Nobody's saying people who are raped while drunk are not raped, they are saying people who have consensual drunken sex are not rape victims. Stop fucking misconstruing the arguments made. I'll ask you the question I asked you earlier again, and hope you answer it this time round: Say you get drunk and someone then asks you for some money and you, in your drunken state, proceed to give them all your cash, even though you would never have done that while sober. Have you been robbed?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 11:00 PM
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Out of curiosity, are you from Norfolk?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 08:10 PM
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Exactly. Although lost consciousness is a pretty given to me (unless some sort of agreement has been made beforehand), that consent is not given/revoked. However, what if two people start getting it on, then in the middle one passes out, and the other doesn't notice? Anyway, my point is when you've blacked out, it is impossible to determine whether you've given consent or not, as you (by definition) don't remember. And in many cases (though not all), it is very difficult, even impossible, to det…
/r/MensRights01/10/12 08:07 PM
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Congrats, but I hope you will let her see her mother.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 07:56 PM
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So, then you think that if a drunk person gives you money, you have committed robbery. Even though they may seem quite coherent and at-their-senses, though inebriated, at the time? My point is that that law is as stupid as prohibition. When you've black-out, how do you know whether you've consented or not? You cannot remember. And how can the other party know you're blacked-out?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 07:50 PM
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Way to misconstrue the argument. Wow, how does one not get this? If I get drunk and black-out and consent to sex during that time period, how have I been raped? I might wake up the next morning and regret having had sex, but I still have not been raped. Say you get drunk and someone then asks you for some money and you, in your drunken state, proceed to give them all your cash, even though you would never have done that while sober. Have you been robbed?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 06:38 PM
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Can they be charged with rape in Nigeria? I am not familiar with Nigerian law at all, but I somehow get the impression that women cannot be charged with rape there.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 11:19 PM
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Apparently this is the video the post is referring to. I found it quite good.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 11:16 PM
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But remember this is equal opportunities! Not discrimination against men and advantages for women, nope!
/r/MensRights30/09/12 04:12 PM
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Men det var det som den lagstiftning som föreslogs sa: Graviditet skulle behandlas som tillfälligt handikapp varför arbetsgivare skulle bli tvungna att tillgodose vissa anställdas utökade behov både på företagets och de andra anställdas bekostnad. Med tanke på republikanernas åsikter vad gäller inskränkningar på företag och en fri marknad så skulle jag tro att detta är skälet till att de röstade ner lagstiftningen. Jag har inte sagt huruvida jag anser att det är rätt att de fick sparken, så du k…
/r/MensRights30/09/12 04:07 PM
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Here's what you said: If you tell a woman that her husband raping her was okay because they're married, and it's normal for men to have sex with their unwilling wives, you're telling all of mankind that men are just horndogs incapable of controlling their sexual impulses and that women should just put up with it. [emphasis mine] Here's what I said: That's saying women have no culpability in committing rape and that men should just put up with it I just parrotted what you said... I never even imp…
/r/MensRights30/09/12 03:51 PM
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Men raping their wives was legal up until recently And women raping their husbands, or just any man was legal up until recently (still isn't defined as rape by most legislations and most of society) and in many parts of the world still is. That's saying women have no culpability in committing rape and that men should just put up with it, but let's ignore this inconvenient fact to keep the falsely gendered narrative on rape falsely gendered. How are official rape factoids biased? You're grasping …
/r/MensRights30/09/12 01:55 AM
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However, it's a lot easier to find statistics and facts on male rapists because the majority (99%, according to the According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics) of rapists are male. Of the estimated 15% of men who are raped in their lifetimes, over 86% are raped by another man. Those are the flawed stats you end up with when you use an extremely biased definition of rape (forced penetration). If rape were defined as forced sex, you'd get numbers that say around 60% of rapists are male and…
/r/MensRights30/09/12 01:40 AM
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I say that I'm intact or that I was not mutilated.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 12:59 AM
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But I couldn't care less about that. Correct use of the phrase Could *not*care less. This makes me glad. My main concern is the bad name her type give feminism I couldn't care less. Feminism is a sexist dogmatic ideology based on statistical lies and faulty premises, and should be exposed for what it is: Hatred and bigotry. the impact beliefs such as hers can have on equal rights. Well, since she aligns herself with chauvinists who succeeded in achieving complete sexual supremacy, I don't see ho…
/r/MensRights30/09/12 12:55 AM
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I see. I use WRA - Women's Rights Advocate/Activist. :)
/r/MensRights29/09/12 06:22 PM
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I've been thinking about this whole slut-thing for a while: A slut is a woman who has taken on the perceived traditionally male role of seeking out sex, we are told. Calling a woman a slut is calling her less feminine and more masculine. She is therefore treated more like a man than other women are. Now, I've never personally encountered the view that sluts deserve anything done to them, but if that is what these people think, doesn't it stand to reason that this might be because they are percei…
/r/MensRights29/09/12 03:20 PM
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Both MRAs and FRAs MRA = Men's Rights Advocate/Activist FRA = Fathers' Rights Advocate/Activist
/r/MensRights29/09/12 02:47 PM
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The inquiry found that the sexual assault to which Thibodeaux also confessed — making him eligible under Louisiana law for the death penalty — never occurred. So, the state of Louisiana can only execute an inmate if that inmate is guilty of a sex crime? I guess "rape-culture" strikes again, what with society's clear approval of and understanding for male-perpetrated rape. /s
/r/MensRights29/09/12 02:15 PM
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I found it disgusting, almost to the level of vomit-inducing. I used to think Sweden was a country that at least was free from police corruption but alas...
/r/MensRights29/09/12 02:02 PM
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Even if it isn't a fringe view in your misandrous community, it's still a rubbish poster with a sexist message.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 02:00 PM
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Well, sure, I've heard and seen the idea that men are controlled by their penises in other instances, but never to explain or excuse male-perpetrated rape. It might happen, but I've never witnessed it.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 01:59 PM
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I'm ignoring the fact that it still represents men as the only people who rape, but its a message against people saying it's in a man's nature to rape. I disagree on both parts. I cannot ignore that blatant sexism. And I think the poster is strawmanning. The idea that rape happens because men are controlled by their penises is a fringe view (one I've never encountered) that is presented in the poster as if it's some sort of majority view. It also implies men are not held responsible for their ac…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 09:57 PM
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Nehej. Vad exakt med min attityd är det som är fruktansvärt? Att jag tycker att kvinnor och män ska ha lika rättigheter på arbetsplatsen? Eller att graviditet inte är ett handikapp?
/r/MensRights28/09/12 09:32 PM
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I guess you know about Irmeli Krans and Anna Ardin?
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:47 PM
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I disagree. We should strive to make men equal to women under the law, not given extra privileges.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:45 PM
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To be fair, there is probably a lot of legitimate oppression of women by men over in Kenya. What makes you assume that?
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:43 PM
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Om de inte kan utföra sina arbetsuppgifter, så kan de inte. I USA är det skäl nog för en arbetsgivare att avskeda en anställd, varför ska kvinnor ha mer skydd än män? Såvitt jag vet är det inte en arbetares rättighet att få ha kvar sitt jobb när de inte klarar av det. Män som inte klarar av sina sysslor får sparken, varför skulle inte kvinnor? Kvinnor ska inte behöva ge upp en välförtjänt karriär Det behöver de inte, så länge de inte bryter mot någon arbetsplatsregel eller inte klarar av de uppg…
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:35 PM
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Feminists still ignoring female-perpetrated sexual assault and rape and the huge double standards that surround the issue, I see.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 06:24 PM
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what he "knows" about MRAs
/r/MensRights27/09/12 11:02 PM
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PZ Myers is so skeptic that he chooses to not believe that what he's reading is what it says, instead he reads it and makes shit up along the way.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 09:41 PM
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Jag vet att du hänvisade till USA. Så du anser att kvinnor ska få ha lite extra lagstadgat skydd eftersom de har valet att bli gravida eller ej? Rättvist? Ska kvinnor föda på jobbet? Om inte, så måste de välja mellan jobb och barn, om inte före så iallafall under födsel.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 09:32 PM
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Jag ser inget exempel på att kvinnor bestraffas för att de är kvinnor. Dels för att det inte har med deras kön att göra, utan deras tillfälliga tillstånd. De fick sparken för att de inte kunde utföra sina jobbsysslor och bröt mot en arbetsplatsregel upprepade gånger. Innebär att inte ge kvinnor privilegier i anställningsskydd att man bestraffar dem på grund av deras kön? Eller menar du på att män har extra skydd som kvinnor inte har?
/r/MensRights27/09/12 07:46 PM
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I feel for them as we have no issues with being punished for being female here. Jag måste bara fråga, hur exakt tycker du att amerikanska kvinnor bestraffas för att de är kvinnor?
/r/MensRights27/09/12 07:19 PM
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Lol, "Pay-tree-are-key". Would you be a darling and provide sources for your outlandish claims instead of just typing buzzwords that bear no meaning at all when talking to someone who doesn't believe in them? Obey God's will or else God shall smite you!
/r/MensRights27/09/12 12:32 AM
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Wouldn't the burden of proof be on her, as she's making the claim?
/r/MensRights27/09/12 12:16 AM
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Not to mention it is anatomically wrong, the entire clitoris is not excised. Part of the, or the whole, clitoral glans is which is homologous to, you guessed it: the penile glans! Here's an image of the clitoris for comparison.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 07:35 PM
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It's the biggest flaw in the ideology. I'd phrase it differently: It's their ideology and it's a flaw.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 10:29 PM
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Such work is hard labour. Lifting and carrying bricks is tough, and it should be for men. The government and its institution should at least embrace these women in other jobs. Said about Iraqi women who have to perform manual labour in order to provide for their families. Leave the arduous back-breaking manual labour for the disposable ones and urge the government to provide these frail flowers with less demanding jobs! Gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:39 PM
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Well, I disagree that feminism is needed in the Ukraine. Because I don't think religious dogma can solve political, social or religious problems.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 11:34 PM
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I am myself pro-abortion, but I just need to point out why this is not a good argument. Most people who oppose abortion do so because they believe abortion is murder, so to them you're saying: There's always been a demand for murder, it might as well be legalised, safe and regulated. That said, I do agree with you, but when talking to "pro-lifers", this is not a very good approach. I instead argue that foetuses are not persons.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:17 PM
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I remain pro-abortion and pro-LPS. But nice try, anti-abortion person!
/r/MensRights23/09/12 09:12 PM
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My question remains. How would religious dogma (feminism) solve abuse, religious dogma (orthodox Christianity) and corruption?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 08:50 PM
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physical abuse, backward religious culture and corrupt politics. And religious dogma is the answer to the problems of abuse, religious dogma and corruption how exactly?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 05:25 PM
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Indeed, who are they supposed to rely on for marital support now!? Selfish chauvinists.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 03:03 PM
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London, England, UK? Hmm, that's interesting. British rape law is sex-specific, and excludes women as perpetrators. But instead of addressing this female privilege, let's dress up (down) and take to the streets because of what we think someone said. Then we'll complain about people watching! Creeps and rapists! No need for equal protection under the law when we can be gynocentric sexists, now is there!?
/r/MensRights23/09/12 02:59 PM
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Disturbing. Very disturbing.
/r/MensRights23/09/12 02:49 PM
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Jag är svensk, jag har gått i skolan i Sverige och båda mina föräldrar är lärare. Det händer här också. I'm a Swede, I've gone to school in Sweden and both my parents are teachers. It happens here as well.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 10:26 PM
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I think you are right.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 03:25 PM
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I am not aware of any such country, sorry.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 03:06 PM
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What? Just because women are discriminated against along with men, it doesn't mean the country is male-friendly...
/r/MensRights22/09/12 03:04 PM
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More and more women remain unmarried in Iraq, due to a lack of men who: are alive and have enough money to pay the dowry. And, it's all about the women. Gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 02:53 PM
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young men think sex is all about them I see, that's why the responsibility of procuring an orgasm, both for yourself and for your sex partner, is on the male! The party that is considered deserving of being pleased without doing anything is apparently the one about whom the sex is not all about..?
/r/MensRights21/09/12 06:35 PM
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NSFL
/r/MensRights21/09/12 06:29 PM
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But that's victim-blaming! At least, as long as you're female and the actions you're taking consist of acts of the sexual variety with a male. Or so feminists tell us...
/r/MensRights21/09/12 06:26 PM
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I doubt that number. Also, how do these take-backers of the nights define sexual assault?
/r/MensRights20/09/12 07:21 PM
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Especially when I hear that there were no efforts made to open a dialog with people within the sex industry when this legislation was imposed. No time to ask the people involved in the business who will be affected by the legislation, when there's furthering of feminist doctrine and vilification of men to be gained.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 10:12 PM
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That is how it works here in Sweden. Selling sexual favours is legal, buying them is not. And, given my job, I consider white and pink collar work lazy. Perhaps we should ban those professions as well.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 08:18 PM
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Prohibition makes everything more dangerous.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 07:44 PM
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Great video. As a Swede, I find our laws regarding prostitution (and drug use) absurd. She brought up a really good point: Even though the law in question is gender neutral, we only talk about women and only apply it to women. So it is de jure equal, but de facto unequal. This can be seen in other areas as well. Sometimes the problem is the law being discriminatory, other times it's the application of the law and the narrative surrounding the law being unequal.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 06:59 PM
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She already had claims on the property, hence "already-extant control over some of the property". And, no, it doesn't tell us anything other than that coverture was still legal practice. Divorces were probably more equitable back then than they are now. Women got the maintenance/upkeep and the men got the kids. No man can obtain a divorce except by a terribly expensive process in the High Court at a minimum charge of forty pounds. This means a denial of justice to the vast bulk of the male popul…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 11:10 PM
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(married women property acts anyone? no right to vote, no right to custody of their children, no birth control, no education, no right to work). The act itself? Which gave married women full control over the property they brought into, and acquired during, the marriage on top of the already-extant control over some of the property the husband brought into, and acquired, during the marriage? That's fair: all mine is mine and half of yours is mine as well... Most people didn't have a right to vote…
/r/MensRights18/09/12 07:41 PM
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Had the UK had a sensible and egalitarian legislation, this should have been attempted rape and assault/battery.
/r/MensRights18/09/12 06:30 PM
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Well, that's a very broad generalisation... Are you saying that women (all?) are submissive because they are lazy? That doesn't seem right, at all...
/r/MensRights16/09/12 05:52 PM
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I would ask her: If men have enough rights, then why don't we just take away women's privileges until they are the same as men's? After all, why should women have more than enough rights?
/r/MensRights16/09/12 02:58 PM
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Given that, historically, the biggest gender-specific disadvantage of being male was being forced to join an army and go into dangerous war A lot of assumptions and falsehoods there. "historically"? Conscription is alive and well around the globe. "biggest [...] disadvantage"? It is a big disadvantage, but is it the biggest? How does one measure which is the biggest disadvantage? "join an army"? Navies and air forces are also part of most militaries. "go into dangerous war"? Conscription isn't e…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 01:45 PM
1

But not using emotional arguments is sexist!
/r/MensRights14/09/12 08:22 PM
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Well, seeing as this is Scotland, that would not be possible even if they wanted to (which I deeply doubt they do). You see, in Scotland (in fact, in all of the UK), women cannot commit the crime of rape. The law is sex-specific. Men can however be victims since 2009, as long as their assailants are male. So, female-perpetrated rape could not possibly be included, since legally it's not rape. However, the male-on-male part, they could have included some of that had they wanted to. Apparently, th…
/r/MensRights13/09/12 10:19 PM
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Teach her not to rape. Educate her on how not to rape the men and women in her life.
/r/MensRights12/09/12 10:22 PM
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queue cue Nurdydancing
/r/MensRights11/09/12 08:41 PM
2

Why do you assume that? Maybe the point is to say that men should get equal opportunities in education?
/r/MensRights11/09/12 07:34 PM
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Here's one of the most meticulous studies on wage differences. Here's an excerpt of a video of a debate from the early 80s on the issue. And here's another video on a lecture done regarding the issue.
/r/MensRights10/09/12 07:18 PM
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Florida statute making a misdemeanant of "whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity." Another example of a female privilege, although small and pretty much insignificant.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 11:12 PM
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Lol, someone thinks the Duluth Model is anti-woman? People are deluded...
/r/MensRights09/09/12 09:05 PM
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The wage gap lie, pretending infantilising equals dehumanising, ignores conscription and other forms of slavery and ignoring male trafficking victims (assuming s/he refers trafficking as "the slave trade"). Ideological buzzwords trump reason and logic, apparently.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 09:01 PM
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I've never encountered this viewpoint. And I still don't see the relevance.
/r/MensRights09/09/12 08:48 PM
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Nobody issues the reverse of those tips to men in the first place Because the narrative surrounding rape is that men rape and women get raped. So, to give men advice on avoiding getting raped would be contradictory to this narrative. that list there is just a deliberate reversal of what is said to women. No, it's not. I've never seen anyone tell women not to rape men. Once again, it is not even acknowledged that women rape, this would contradict the narrative. I don't see how your response was a…
/r/MensRights09/09/12 08:20 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but not acknowledging the majority of rape victims (male victims) makes me less than sympathetic to anyone spouting such lies. Granted, I am really tired of gynocentrism, and that may be the reason...
/r/MensRights09/09/12 06:33 PM
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Here's the thing: I am an antifeminist, by that I mean that I oppose feminism. This does not mean that I agree with anyone else identifying as antifeminist. This is because antifeminism is not an ideology per se, but an opposition to a certain ideology/worldview and this opposition contains a wide spectrum of opinions. For instance, there are egalitarian antifeminists and there are non-egalitarian antifeminists, these two groups will come to an agreement on that feminism is a sexist ideology, bu…
/r/MensRights09/09/12 05:58 PM
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Opinion on what exactly? The posters or the lies published in the article?
/r/MensRights09/09/12 12:11 AM
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The preservation of the family - every family - is the cornerstone of American society. I see...
/r/MensRights08/09/12 11:54 PM
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So, they manboobed the topic?
/r/MensRights06/09/12 10:25 PM
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“Changing rape law on the books is one of the tools the women’s movement has identified for advancing equality. There’s no question these sites promote sex inequality and are deeply disparaging of women’s attempts to shift public policy in ways that advance women’s rights,” Wow, if anyone ever needed proof of how deeply ingrained gynocentrism is in society, look no further!
/r/MensRights06/09/12 10:23 PM
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And on behalf of women who aren't fucking insane, I'm sorry. You really shouldn't apologise on behalf of an entire demographic. What an individual woman thinks and how she acts does not reflect on how women think or act.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 08:13 PM
3

I recommend this to everyone. The only problem I had with it was in the programme about violence, when Eia brought up DV deaths. He only stated the number of female fatalities, excluding male ones.
/r/MensRights05/09/12 08:01 PM
1

I'll just leave this here...
/r/MensRights03/09/12 08:01 PM
2

That was frightening.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 07:00 PM
1

Yes, especially interesting is that the type which is least likely to occur (both rates and frequency-wise) is the one that is focused on. As you succinctly said: If female inmates were being raped by male prison staff, that would make the headlines. It did, and action was taken. Now, perhaps they'll bother responding to the other types of sexual assault and rape that goes on in prison settings.
/r/MensRights03/09/12 06:55 PM
17

Biology is patriarchy, you silly man. Feminist Hulk-smash!
/r/MensRights02/09/12 10:18 PM
2

Well said, short and concise, in case you haven't already seen it this might be of interest to you, with regards to female rape in prison settings.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 05:12 PM
1

Because of gynocentrism, both societal and ideological as well as legal.
/r/MensRights02/09/12 02:38 PM
2

I mean, I'm not born yesterday, I know that rape happens in prisons, especially in male prisons, but the US statistics are just horrible.. Actually, rates for rape were higher in female prisons and jails than in male prisons and jails. However, more men are incarcerated and subsequently more men are raped.
/r/MensRights01/09/12 08:21 PM
1

Here's some information on NOW and the draft, it seems they only paid lip-service to equality in that regard, and opposed efforts to make it sex-neutral. At least according to the poster.
/r/MensRights31/08/12 06:38 PM
1

In Sweden, one or two years ago, there was a charity effort by Musikhjälpen (The Music Aid/Help), with the theme that every girl deserves to go to school. Their reason for focusing on girls and ignoring boys was that 52 or 53% of all children who didn't go to school in the world were girls. That leaves 47 or 48% boys, but they would not receive any help.
/r/MensRights30/08/12 07:19 PM
1

Would this be the act you're referring to? If so, my point still stands. Women cannot commit rape in Scotland or elsewhere in the UK.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 10:52 PM
1

Women cannot commit rape in Scotland. Can they?
/r/MensRights29/08/12 08:49 PM
1

That's because I'm 15 and therefore not old enough to "do" any women without it being considered that they raped me I thought you were British...
/r/MensRights29/08/12 07:56 PM
0

Ostensibly is the key here. I get no benefit from the war in Afghanistan. Which is why I wrote it. The war is an illegal war of terror, not on terror. It was also the reason I compared the military to the police. The police are an instrument of violence that has been legalised by the state. [includes graphic imagery of the police murdering men and animals] Most of my tax money. What I'm saying is, once I'm out of higher education, I'll have no need for education, my money will be going towards s…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 11:49 PM
0

Aside from anomalies like Queen Victoria (royal blood trumped gender, royal blood trumped everything)? Yeah. Legal impunity for her criminal actions with all culpability falling on her husband is power. Courts and laws biased in her favour means power. How about employers? Did they not have power over their employees? He was expected to be in charge and so had the expected responsibilities. It's not a chicken and egg game, they both came packaged with each other. How do you know? Maybe someone j…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 07:38 PM
4

What's there to think about it? If you're asexual, you're asexual.
/r/MensRights27/08/12 12:54 AM
0

What proof do I need? Just look outside, is the Republican party a group based in traditional, conservative values? Are they not a party in favour of gender roles, from which stems their dislike of LGBTQ people? Wow, you just keep repeating the same rubbish over and over. Prove your initial claim, then you can move on to proving this claim if you like. The reason for that is generally attributed to men visiting the doctor less, men being more likely to have an unhealthy lifestyle (drinking, fatt…
/r/MensRights27/08/12 12:43 AM
3

I remember when I was in 1st to 6th form (same school), the boys' PE changing room was next to the teacher's room. So the teacher could and was allowed to walk through there. Sometimes she stayed to "have a talk" as we were exiting the showers. Generally girls weren't allowed to be there (and boys were under no circumstances allowed to enter the girls' room), but if a girl'd misbehaved and the teacher needed a word with her she could pass through there.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 11:48 PM
3

Cunt is a misogynistic slur? Is dick a misandrous slur?
/r/MensRights26/08/12 11:42 PM
0

The real reason these things are pushed for, is because the groups seeking them are pushing for patriarchal control. You still haven't proven your absurd and ridiculous claim. Whereas the women don't have to toil themselves till they drop? Uh, yeah actually, yeah they do, often they are the ones doing phenomenal amounts of work to keep the house functioning, from participating in farm labour to trekking to get water Oh, I guess that's why men die younger... Yes, clearly mothers were the most pow…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 11:39 PM
3

How about sexual assault by envelopment?
/r/MensRights26/08/12 10:49 PM
4

men are also victims. But obviously because more women are, we somehow knowingly only direct this humour at women. Actually, men are the majority of rape victims.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 09:09 PM
6

Good? I fail to see a problem with the advice.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:17 PM
1

OP, help me understand how if a woman gets pregnant, and she didn't use a condom or BC, it's unfair that she cannot abort, or give the child up for adoption or legal abandonment (Safe Haven). If she doesn't want a child she shouldn't have had unprotected sex and it's irresponsible to terminate a foetus when pregnancy is ALWAYS a risk. /s Does this make sense to you? Consenting to sex is not consenting to parenthood, whether you're male or female.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:09 PM
4

Not only England; Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland also have specified rape as a sex-specific crime: only men can commit it.
/r/MensRights26/08/12 06:05 PM
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Whenever these issues come up, and people try to restrict abortion and contraception, there's a lot of poorly analysed stuff about cultural and religious reasons thrown about. This statement will surely be followed by a flawless and evidenced cultural and religious analysis. Followed by a poor analysis based not in research or even proof but dogma and projections. The real reason these things are pushed for, is because the groups seeking them are pushing for patriarchal control. It's not a coinc…
/r/MensRights26/08/12 02:48 PM
0

As far as I'm aware Romney's American, but what do I know? Once again, my question did not include your opinions on what is oppression. I asked how women would face injustice if their rights were reduced to be more similar to those men have. You cannot say that women would be oppressed if men aren't in that situation. Men's lives change when they are forced into fatherhood, their quality of life goes down, they have to work more and they go to jail if they can't or won't pay. So, women wouldn't …
/r/MensRights25/08/12 11:28 PM
3

Um, I was just explaining why women were oppressed when they lost access to abortion and contraception. None of your response really deals with that. Were? It hasn't happened yet, and even if Romney wins it most likely won't. If women would be oppressed by not having reproductive privileges, aren't men? Also, oppressed? I was talking about facing injustice and you didn't mention oppression in your first reply... Would women face injustice by not having the same reproductive privileges they are a…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 09:49 PM
1

I just don't vote. All political parties are misandrous and operate on dogma. To me, voting means electing the lesser of two evils, and whichever way you choose to look at it, evil is still going to be elected.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:46 PM
2

It's particularly applicable in developing countries So, Romney is going to be a candidate for president of the developing world? women gaining independence. I don't follow, independence? From what? And if you call dependence on others (the tax-paying population) independence you and I have different views on what independence is. Yes, men can be forced into paying child support or can lose access to their child in some situations, but that is not quite the same as having your independence taken…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:44 PM
1

Have you considered Vermin Supreme?
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:28 PM
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I'd just like to preface this with that I too am not American, I am pro-abortion, pro-contraception and whatnot and do not agree with Romney on many things. However, in what way would women face injustice if abortion was criminalised and contraception1 wasn't covered by insurance? Men don't have reproductive rights, to equalise things in that area we either give men reproductive rights or we revoke women's reproductive privileges. Personally, I'd prefer giving men rights over taking privileges f…
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:22 PM
3

About 80 percent of wrongful convictions in Texas are due to faulty witness identifications, said Cory Session, whose half-brother Timothy Cole was wrongfully convicted in a 1985 rape and died in prison before he was declared innocent. Well, that's a downer. Both that the man died in prison and that the courts convict innocent people based merely on witness identifications... That is very sad, very sad indeed.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 08:06 PM
2

I am not a feminist because I don't believe in feminist dogma: e.g. Patriarchy Theory. I am not a Christian because I don't believe in Christian dogma: e.g. There's a God.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 06:06 PM
4

Equal rights and protection under the law. No discrimination.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 05:00 PM
3

What rights exactly? Has this got to do with the current debate on women's reproductive privileges? You know, that kind of rights that men don't have?
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:54 PM
1

I'd say no. The feminist worldview and activism don't go hand in hand with equal rights and protection. woman's right to choose Two things: How about a man's right to choose? What makes it exclusively feminist?
/r/MensRights24/08/12 11:56 PM
2

How is this a rights issue? Last time I checked, no-one had the right to either friendship or relationship.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 11:18 PM
0

As a man who's never been (to my knowledge) screwed over by anyone, woman or man, I fail to see how that would affect my views on matters pertaining to equal rights and protection.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 09:24 PM
60

Hey, feminists, you want to talk about "rape-culture"? This would be one of very few examples of it actually existing.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 12:13 AM
3

Individual liberty combined with personal responsibility. It's awesome.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:58 PM
1

Women weren't oppressed, they were discriminated against. Guess who else were? Men! I'd even go so far as to say that men were oppressed as they were conscripted.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 08:53 PM
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I will start apologising for my sex because a man raped a woman when women start apologising for their sex because a woman raped a man. Not really, collectivism is silly.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 09:47 PM
4

So, women don't have access to condoms? Also, not American, but does insurance cover condoms? What you fail to understand is that men don't have any reproductive rights while women have their set of privileges in the reproductive area, so a "war on women" is not in any way a reasonable way to describe the situation a more apt term would be "a reduction of women's legal privileges in the area of reproduction". However, that's not a very good soundbite...
/r/MensRights21/08/12 09:44 PM
0

How so?
/r/MensRights20/08/12 11:07 PM
1

England? This is Northern Ireland. Also, I am not sure it is okay to report it in England or anywhere in the UK.
/r/MensRights20/08/12 08:22 PM
3

Hi, leftcommie Do you believe that men and woman face an equal amount of sexual assault and domestic violence? I don't think it's impossible that this is the case, but it could also be that men face more sexual assault and DV or that women face more. Do you believe that when a man gets a woman pregnant that he should have some legal authority on whether she takes the pregnancy to full term or not? I think she should ask him what he wants and maybe take his feelings into account, but ultimately t…
/r/MensRights19/08/12 10:25 PM
13

How about no marriage? Seriously, why would you sign away your property and income to someone else like that?
/r/MensRights19/08/12 07:21 PM
4

It's really strange, isn't it? It's almost as if these people throw out scientific procedures in order to follow their ideological beliefs... Almost.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 07:19 PM
2

Charles Rangle Rangel
/r/MensRights19/08/12 07:12 PM
5

Well, I have to give you that one. So, one legal privilege to not being white and at least one social "privilege" to being minority. I'll answer your question: Genital mutilation, Fathers' rights, Conscription. These are probably the top 3 for me.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:39 AM
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If I may I'd like to offer an explanation for why I dislike comments like this even though I agree with the sentiment expressed. You can't ask for the advantages of equality without accepting the disadvantages. This phrasing right here suggests that men have the ideal position and that women strive to be in that position. But that is not true, men had certain privileges and women had/have other privileges. So when things like this are said it tells me that we have not yet come around to acknowle…
/r/MensRights19/08/12 02:58 AM
0

Like Sigil1, the the problems that affirmative action causes for white men. line causes me some concern. Arguably, this is the one area where white men can be said to be more discriminated against than black men. But the fact that s/he only listed a few examples and that was one of them makes me suspicious nonetheless.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 12:14 AM
1

So, you're saying only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men have their genitals mutilated? Or only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men have their children stolen or father stolen? Or only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men are conscripted? Or only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men get raped or abused without help and support available? Or only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men have to pay maintenance to their former partners? Or only straight, white, able-bodied cis-men commit suicide o…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 05:25 PM
1

They would say it's feminism and the surge in rights for women that have left men out in the cold. I doubt anyone would say that, after all, an ideology isn't very likely to cause people to commit a certain type of crime. However, feminists have supressed information on what actually happens regarding the crimes they have monopolised and capitalised on: Rape and DV namely. These two crimes are erroneously believed to be gender crimes (by men, against women) and hold a special status in society a…
/r/MensRights18/08/12 01:58 PM
3

As a Swede, I would like to say I am ashamed.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 08:10 PM
4

I'll just focus on this one for now. It isn't women raping men in prisons, Yes, it is. Both men and women rape men and women in prison. And why did you decide to exclude rape that doesn't take place in prison settings?
/r/MensRights15/08/12 07:45 PM
1

Here's one of the best explanations I've found to date on GM.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 07:29 PM
4

Women receive more benefits than men, therefore cutting benefits means women are discriminated against? That's some sound logic right there!
/r/MensRights14/08/12 11:07 PM
7

Upvotes, all around. This feminist belief that men were uniquely privileged or even above women, and that this is what a "patriarchal culture" is insulting to the human mind for its sheer stupidity.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 08:07 PM
6

I am for equal rights, responsibilities, protection and punishment under the law. As it stands, we don't have that. Women have more rights than men, less responsibilities than men, have more protection under the law and don't receive the same punishment men do. Am I antifeminist? Hell, yes. I don't believe in feminism's sexist premises and I disagree with most of the activism. I refer to myself as an egalitarian antifeminist.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 11:39 PM
2

Yeah, me too. I refuse to have others define what I think, want and do. Not that I ever considered myself a MGHOW.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 11:04 PM
9

Is there really such a thing as an archetype for MGTOW? Isn't a MGHOW a man going his own way?
/r/MensRights12/08/12 08:43 PM
3

Nope.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 08:35 PM
5

And then people have the audacity to say that the reason male suicide rates are manifold times that of women is because men can't express their feelings, whilst conveniently ignoring all the legal discrimination men suffer as a result of sexist legislation and application of the law... Fucking arseholes, the lot of them. I hope your brother's OK now.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 11:28 PM
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Sexist hypocrites, that's all these people are. It's ok to ogle male bodies, not ok to ogle female bodies. Feminists, the sooner the world gets rid of you the better.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 10:03 PM
6

So, they're upset because women stand to lose some of their privileges? And endure a situation more similar to men's? Huh, here I've been told all my life that feminism was about equality and that women should be treated like men, but it seems the prospect of this frightens them.
/r/MensRights11/08/12 07:21 PM
1

You are incorrect, the tables don't show how both parties were raped, as the CDC didn't define forced envelopment as rape, only forced penetration. As is plainly stated in the tables. Thereby excluding the vast majority of male victims and female perpetrators - hello, skewed statistics! Here is a calculation on perpetration/victimisation rates based on the data presented by the CDC, and here's another one. This is rape outside prison settings.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 09:17 PM
3

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 07:10 PM
5

ManWomanMyth, some two, maybe two and a half years ago. Prior to that I was always opposed to feminism, as what it taught didn't match the world I lived in. But thinking of it as men suffering discimination hadn't occurred to me up until that point.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 10:04 PM
2

I don't, I think they're sexist bigots and so, I don't accomodate to their wishes. However, you posted in /askwomen, to my knowledge it's a subreddit where you ask women about things, not feminists... And, on a grammatical note, I believe you meant to imply that you could not care less about reddit.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 11:46 PM
21

Feminism does not mean man-hating To you it doesn't, to me it's just a continuation of the same old misandry and gynocentrism. which means I'd expect MRA to not mean woman-hating. This doesn't follow, as the MRM is not the 'male counterpart' to feminism, that would probably be masculism. But you can expect that anyway, just not for that reason. As a feminist, I personally believe in equality amongst genders. What your personal beliefs are on this matter hasn't got anything to do with your religi…
/r/MensRights07/08/12 11:41 PM
2

If they can't come up with a specific man to blame it on, they will use their go-to scapegoat: The Pay-tree-are-key.
/r/MensRights07/08/12 08:17 PM
10

Could have used more options. The politics question seemed weird to me, being Swedish. Here liberal means small government, conservative basically doesn't exist, and socialist means big government. I don't identify with either ideology. The feminism from an historical point of view question felt quite limitting, so I had to go with Other. Same problem with the modern feminism question, although there wasn't any Other option. I oppose the ideology altogether, along with the activism, so neither o…
/r/MensRights06/08/12 12:04 AM
12

How do you take away from 'our space'? Please, express your opinions and thoughts, this is not a male-only space. The more voices that are heard the better of an understanding we will get.
/r/MensRights01/08/12 07:36 PM
3

I agree with you, but the problems don't end there: It is not uncommon for innocent men to be convicted. I suggest men (and women) convicted of rape, later to be found to have been innocent get the same publicity for their release asd they did for their conviction.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 07:05 PM
6

You can't really expect a feminist to espouse anything but hatred and sexist bigotry, it's always good to keep that in mind. That way you won't be disappointed.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:54 PM
10

GWW is antifeminist, though. What you agree with is antifeminism.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:17 PM
4

She posted that same rubbish here. She never answered my comment to her then, so I tried posting it again on the thread linked by OP.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 08:10 PM
1

I will just comment on this: The terrible truth is that there is usually no clear way to say for sure what happened in instances of rape. Do I believe that false accusations happen? Yes. However, it's impossible to determine at what frequency occur. Do we call every reported case that gets thrown out by police a "false occurrence"? Should we? Bingo! The fact is we don't know! Yet, I see stupid fucks making the claim that "90% of rapes go unreported" (of course, the people who say this and write …
/r/MensRights29/07/12 03:26 PM
4

I am not American. So, what you're saying is that we should change our views and deny the evidence and our experiences because people might become hostile towards us when we call feminism on its bullshit?
/r/MensRights29/07/12 02:49 PM
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Oh, most of them will admit that female-on-male domestic violence exists. But they will downplay the frequency and severity of it.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 02:47 PM
-1

Feminism always was that. It started off with some good intentions, but was always as sexist as it is today. The only difference is that back then women actually did face some legal discrimination. So did men, but feminists pretended those cases didn't exist or made them worse. So, basically feminism hasn't changed that much, the conditions of society has. Feminism is every bit as discriminatory, sexist, gynocentric, misandrous as it ever was. Edit: Missed a word.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 02:10 PM
2

The same reason I am atheist, the ideology is gynocentric and sexist, based on a dogmatic beliefs that don't match up with reality. I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I thought I'd answer it anyway.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 01:59 PM
5

It'd be way regrettable for the MRM atheist movement to be seen as an anti-feminist anti-religious movement. No, it wouldn't.
/r/MensRights29/07/12 01:56 PM
9

Is there a F4J in Texas? If so, get in contact with them. They may be able to help.
/r/MensRights28/07/12 07:56 PM
3

Being opposed to gynocentrism is conservative? How?
/r/MensRights27/07/12 08:16 PM
1

Kärlek över Öresund :)
/r/MensRights27/07/12 08:05 PM
1

Grattis! Mycket goda nyheter.
/r/MensRights26/07/12 11:56 PM
4

Most cut boys and men don't know what it's like to be intact. They've never experienced it. I take it you're American. In American culture intact penises are viewed as ugly and filthy, who wants to be ugly and filthy? In cultures that practice FGM alongside MGM, most cut women like being cut. It's the norm to them, so therefore they like it. MGM type I (circumcision) removes healthy tissue (the foreskin) which serves two main purposes: It protects the glans from dirt and it prevent the glans and…
/r/MensRights26/07/12 01:19 AM
10

The media is made in general, to appeal to hetero males. Magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to men sexually. The low self-esteem you see from women? Can you see where it comes from? Scantily-clad women don't appeal to lesbians? Seriously though, you've never seen David Beckham billboards? Why do you think boys and men OD on steroids? Because that's the only way they'll be able to reach…
/r/MensRights26/07/12 12:52 AM
6

Be happy now, MR's (relatively new) so most of you guys are going to have an easier time agreeing with each other. Not really, men's rights activism has existed for over a hundred years. It's just that it required a platform such as the internet, where information is free and easily accessible to reach more people, as it has never been socially acceptable to discuss men's issues. It still isn't, but on the internet you can do so without fearing any repercussions. And we disagree with each other …
/r/MensRights26/07/12 12:34 AM
1

Maybe, but I prefer pro-abortion for a couple of reasons, and the opposition can believe whatever they like. :)
/r/MensRights26/07/12 12:10 AM
2

I most certainly am, but there are supporters who consider themselves feminist. I oppose the feminist worldview, and so do many with me. Not all, but many.
/r/MensRights25/07/12 10:28 PM
4

Women get contraception, men get mutilation. Equality!
/r/MensRights25/07/12 09:44 PM
1

I find it absolutely unfair men have next to no say in birth control, pregnancy, abortion, and childcare, but does that really cancel out the fact women are losing their privileges? I (being pro-abortion) would prefer men get reproductive rights than women losing their privileges. But if one is to be crass about it, women losing their privileges means equality as much as men gaining those same privileges. The male equivalent to abortion would be LPS (Legal Paternal Surrender), whereby a man can …
/r/MensRights25/07/12 08:16 PM
2

Yes, these are all clear cases of discrimination against women. But your assertion that women have all the problems men have and their own is wrong. Gay men are executed, to my knowledge lesbian women are not. Iran has mandatory military service for all men. If they adhere to Islamic law, a man must keep his wife. That is, he must provide for her. The Mahr, if they adhere to Islamic law. In these countries, there is discrimination against men and discrimination against women. But we only ever he…
/r/MensRights25/07/12 08:11 PM
5

I don't know if you missed the "uniquely" or if you don't understand what it means. Do you mean they weren't drafted? Yes. Children cannot vote, are they oppressed? Children have fewer career choices, are they oppressed? When you think of child soldiers, do you think of them as oppressed or privileged? A hint, they're mostly conscripts, not volunteers. It's a history class, I really think she taught the historical aspect of it in the same way you'd learn about any historical event, and in the en…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 09:06 PM
9

Birmingham, England. Women cannot commit the crime of rape in any part of the UK, so she cannot have apologised for rape.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:57 PM
1

and by valid I mean women are still facing discrimination today. They're still paid less, they're facing possibly losing the right to a safe abortion, etc. The average woman earns less than the average man, but not due to discrimination. But because the average man works longer hours, more overtime, negotiate their salaries more, and in different occupations. Women might stand to lose some of their reproductive privileges, as you may know men don't have any reproductive rights, so therefore neit…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:42 PM
3

You seem to be getting into this from a faulty premise: women were uniquely oppressed. This is what we are taught, but it is not true. Women held many privileges, as did men. Feminists did then exactly the same thing they do today. To take your example; they fought for men's privileges to be either extended to women or removed, while ignoring women's privileges. They demanded the right to vote in national elections (as local/regional elections in many cases already had female suffrage), without …
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:36 PM
0

Feminism is a dogmatic ideology, it is like a religion. Also, should a teacher indoctrinate a class in conservative/liberal/socialist ideology?
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:24 PM
1

-Nazis killed Jews. -Hey, not every Nazi killed Jews, that is an unfair generalisation. Feminists have pushed for discriminatory legislation. MRAs have not. Women do have legal privileges, men do not (in the west).
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:21 PM
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And women have legal privileges in those countries as well. Men are executed (stoning and hanging most commonly) for similar things. Are you only looking at how women have it in those areas and ignoring what it's like for men? So your assertion that men are legally privileged in those areas is half-true, you just forgot to say that women also are legally privileged. Just in different areas. FYI: I don't think SkyrimNewb meant geographical areas.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 08:17 PM
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Yes, precisely.
/r/MensRights23/07/12 09:04 PM
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It depends on what you mean by "privilege"... Laws that favour whites over other blacks? None that I know of, but there might be. Favouring of whites in the application of laws? Yes, it would seem so. Social treatment? Yes, whites have some advantages. So, what it all boils down to is: How do you define privilege?
/r/MensRights23/07/12 07:54 PM
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political lesbianism. Careful now, SRS might see you using these words. But, good point. I thought the whole kerfuffle was based on either wilful misunderstanding or poor communication. I saw nothing wrong on the part of LadyMRAs' mods, the question was fair given the context.
/r/MensRights23/07/12 07:37 PM
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Probably not, but maybe they'll inspire others to look at the issues? And thereby raise the consciousness for men's situation.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 09:00 PM
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After a quick glance, I fail too see where the "LadyMRAs" went wrong. I thought they were reasonable. Maybe it was the line of communication that broke down, I know that's happened to me sometimes. I've thought someone said something, and then everything they said seemed to confirm that. But they were in fact saying something else. And I know that others have interepreted some of what I've said in ways I didn't intend. I will definitely stay subscribed to the LadyMRAs.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 02:47 AM
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Ehm, no, but they "go from guy to guy grinding on them". They flirt openly and suggestively, to most people this indicates an interest in shall we say 'carnal activities' if things work out. The custom is to 'buy the lady a drink' to make sure she doesn't go to someone else instead. It is not that there's an obligation, or even a belief that there is, just that if you don't buy her a drink, chances are she'll move on to the next bloke.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 02:26 AM
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I just realised something: If Denmark passes this legislation, Norway wouldn't be the first (the stated reason for not passing a ban), so they might follow. With both our neghbours having banned it, Sweden might as well. When "progressive 'egalitarian' Scandinavia" has banned MGM, some other countries may follow suit to look good... This might actually work. If the Danes decide to outlaw the procedure, that is. But, I have a feeling they will.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 02:09 AM
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The Muhammed drawings? Granted, the Danes usually don't care what others think of them so hopefully that won't prevent them from banning it.
/r/MensRights21/07/12 02:03 AM
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I'm guessing this is a parody?
/r/MensRights20/07/12 11:24 PM
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Let me just pop in here to ask a question: How do you define oppression?
/r/MensRights20/07/12 09:24 PM
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Yes, and the javelin weighs less and is smaller for women, the shot is lighter, the short hurdle event is shorter for women than for men (100mH W; 110mH M), etc... so what?
/r/MensRights20/07/12 09:14 PM
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Pay-tree-are-key told them to say that!
/r/MensRights20/07/12 08:37 PM
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Also, not to nit-pick, but according to the article there wasn't penetration. There was "caressing".
/r/MensRights20/07/12 01:25 AM
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it's simply not practical to provide warnings for everything. Does providing a TW for some things take longer than providing a TW for other things? It's less about what triggers deserve warnings, more about what triggers have a decent chance of triggering someone. Alzheimer's affects quite a lot of people, so do cancer and HIV. War is probably the biggest cause of PTSD, genital mutilation is far more common than rape and can also cause PTSD, etc...
/r/MensRights19/07/12 11:46 PM
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Why only some steps?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:45 PM
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So you get to decide what "triggers" deserve warnings?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:43 PM
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I took the kissing quote from that article. Which is why I considered it hypocritical for you to say: Penetration, for any amount of time, is something that should require consent, especially explicit consent. When you also claimed that the article that states that 'the steps of kissing don't need explicit consent' gives your view on how a relationship should work. Your utopia is not everyone else's utopia.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:40 PM
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Well then all your posts need trigger warnings. I'll expect them from now on. Thanks. Fine, I'll play ball You're not playing ball. There was nothing to put a warning for there. How do you know? Maybe I know someone who suffers from Alzheimers or amnesia? And that the word 'forget' is a trigger for me?
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:36 PM
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Again.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:32 PM
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Not sure what me being from the UK has to do with it though... You might want to look up your country's rape laws. you're kissing them, For which you asked for consent beforehand I would assume? Quite a boring relationship I must say.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:31 PM
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You seem to have missed quite a few TWs since then...
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:23 PM
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Penetration, for any amount of time, is something that should require consent, especially explicit consent. While I don't think every step of "can I kiss you now?" is necessary in a long-term relationship Kissing quite often involves penetration. And, only penetration? Not envelopment or "carressing" as in this case? I know you're from the UK, but still...
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:11 PM
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although I would love to see the look on your face when the new Rape Statistics were released after this hard-line of consent was in place- many people would be astonished at the number of female rapists and predators. Grapeban is British. In the UK, rape is a sex-specific crime, only men and pre-op trans-women can commit rape.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 10:01 PM
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As I am not American, I can't do the survey.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 12:40 AM
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He advocates using the threat of violence as a political tactic. And then claims that because he warned people of it, it's okay to do nothing to prevent the violence. No, he argues that it isn't a threat, but a warning. And that he cannot be expected to stop or be repsonsible for the consequences of the actions of those in charge. Yes, but if very, very few rape cases are getting convictions, it shows that there clearly isn't a problem with rape being believed without questions, we can also assu…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 10:35 PM
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Women want to be are paid the same, but then expect the men to pick up the tab. The average man spends $40,000 on women before getting married. There is your 17.8% right there. FTFY
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:57 PM
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But he doesn't actually advocate violence as a political tactic. He says it is inevitable given the current conditions unless things change. He states it is not a threat, as it is force majeure. Given that MRAs have little to no political power, all we can do is warn about the impending consequences of continued discrimination, and see how those who oppose equal rights and protection react. Given our lack of power, we cannot stem any violent response to the actions of others. I didn't say that m…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:54 PM
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Glasgow is situated in Scotland, the UK. Legally speaking, glasgowfeminist is correct, there rape is forced penetration by a penis, since 2009 it includes men who were penetrated by a penis. But, I concur, glasgowfeminist is sexist and so is the law.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:11 PM
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A woman becoming lubricated is a clear and acceptable sign of consent. Equally rubbish.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:05 PM
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It is not hateful to advocate jury nullification, not if there are reasons. for instance I'd advocate jury ullification if someone was on trial for possession of drugs, as I don't think that it's morally justifiable to send someone to prison for using an illicit substance, not harming anyone else. Elam has his reasons for jury nullification in rape cases (and no, it's not 'rape shouldn't be a crime'). I don't agree with him, but I don't see how it translates to hateful? Where did the last articl…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 09:01 PM
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My main point about the attention I've received is that why did this article have around 20 upvotes without anyone pointing out the lie. What does that say about the community? It tells me that: Some didn't read the article, and quite simply reflected on what they already knew to be true: Jewish activists are promoting mutilation. Some read the article and didn't think it was important to point out, seeing as it is true that Jewish activists are promoting mutilation, along with Muslim and Christ…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:26 AM
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I never said it was hateful to say a Jewish "human rights lawyer," just that if it is actually a Muslim making the statements then one has to wonder why the religion was changed. Nice to see more hatred and lies coming come from r/MensRights. 18 upvotes and not a single person has pointed out that the thread's title is a fabrication. This article was written by a Muslim human rights lawyer, yet the OP claims he's Jewish, and why if not to stir up hatred?
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:10 AM
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You seem really bothered by the fact I caught you in a lie, don't you? Either you didn't read the article or the comment posted by Irrel_M or you thought it was ok to lie. Either way you look like a fool.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:06 AM
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I think you don't understand what "blatantly lie" means. The only thing that wasn't true was that the cunt was Muslim, not Jewish. There's a big difference between saying that 99% of rapists are men and saying that Jewish activists are endorsing mutilation. One is untrue, while the other is not. You don't think the attention you received had anything to do with how you acted? Instead of just saying that the arsehole's a Muslim and not Jewish, you went off on a diatribe about Jews being targetted…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 03:03 AM
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n fact, someone was heavily downvoted who simply pasted something from the article, showing that people were just upvoting the thread because it was about Jews and circumcision. Quit lying, Irrel_M copied from the comments (not everyone reads the comments), not the article without citing or showing it was a quote. Thereby making it appear to be his/her own views. That was what was downvoted.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 02:49 AM
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Being a cunt means different things to different people, but in your case I'd say it has to do with putting the issue of irreparable harm being performed on boys aside to instead make an unfounded claim that the reason the OP wrote Jewish instead of Muslim was to "stir up hatred". What evidence do you have for this claim other than speculation? If it is hateful to say that a Jewish "human rights lawyer" promotes genital mutilation why isn't it hateful to say that a Muslim "human rights lawyer" p…
/r/MensRights18/07/12 02:43 AM
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Maybe no-one's pointed it out because no-one gives a toss whether the knobend's a Jew or a Muslim (or Christian or whatever). The cunt's promoting genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 02:33 AM
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As long as they have the same requirements and are held to the same standards, go ahead. Of course, I'd like to see male-only and female-only batallions.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 02:11 AM
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I found the definition ambiguous. My first impression when reading it was that rape by envelopment was not included, but that male victims of rape by penetration now are. But that may be just my interpretation of the wording.
/r/MensRights18/07/12 02:01 AM
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Good, it should. It's infuriating.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 10:36 PM
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No, only men can rape (and pre-op trans-women). Men can nowadays be raped by other men. Although, up until 2009, only women could get raped in Scotland. I don't know when the laws changed in England, Wales and Northern Ireland to include a portion of male victims, though.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 10:33 PM
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It is good that you don't have blind faith in what people say and ask for sources: Northern Ireland England and Wales Scotland
/r/MensRights17/07/12 10:00 PM
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I'm a Swede unfortunately.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:45 PM
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UK: Sex-specific rape laws. Just thought I'd point that out.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:39 PM
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I would believe so, yes, it would probably fall under sexual assault/battery.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:25 PM
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Thank you for the info. I keep forgetting that Australia's a federation. I too am not very well versed in legal interpretation, but to me you appear to be correct.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 07:23 PM
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Ok, just thought I'd mention it, so that people don't get the impression that this kind of thing only happens in the US.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 01:33 AM
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Sure beats me. I think it's excellent.
/r/MensRights17/07/12 01:32 AM
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Rape (1) A person (A) commits an offence if— (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b) B does not consent to the penetration, and (c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents. In England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and Rape (1) If a person (“A”), with A's penis— (a) without another person (“B”) consenting, and (b) without any reasonable belief that B consents, penetrates to any extent, either intending to do so or reckless as to whe…
/r/MensRights17/07/12 01:21 AM
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Concerning the CDC report, I had an argument a while back with an ardent feminist, who claimed that men who were raped through envelopment should not be included in rape statistics because: "Experts" had made the decision not to include them and It would show a close to equal number of male and female victims and perpetrators, and she felt that acknowledging this wouldn't help female victims, and might in fact hurt them. She was so close to understanding men's situation, but yet so far. Blinded …
/r/MensRights17/07/12 12:26 AM
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Interesting, although I should add that it only refers to reported sexual assaults. Mind if I ask whether rape by envelopment is legally classified as rape in Australia? The paper stated that: The committee also recommended that the definition of rape and sexual penetration within the Crimes Act 1958 be reviewed to include situations where the victim is forced to penetrate the offender. But I couldn't find any mention of whether it was successful. The paper was partially gladdening (acknowledgin…
/r/MensRights17/07/12 12:00 AM
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http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf And I am certain that you are aware of the CDC report and that disaster, but in case you aren't here's a summary on it.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 11:25 PM
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Women face prison rape at higher rates but not in higher numbers (higher rates of incarceration for men), men face rape outside of prison at similar (some show more, some show less) rates as women. In conclusion, men are predominantly the victims of rape.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 08:37 PM
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This and this. In short, men are victimised as much as women outside prison settings, but more men are victimised in prison settings. So, more men than women are victims of rape.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 08:24 PM
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So does rape.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 08:21 PM
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A painless procedure that could save a man from slaving for decades to pay for a cuckold child, that of course violates children's rights. That's because they are not actually protecting children's rights, but women's privileges. The child's rights are used as a shield to keep the mother's privileges safe.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 01:15 AM
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Feminism in a nutshell.
/r/MensRights14/07/12 06:02 PM
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You seem to be making a false equivalence here: The MRM is not the male counterpart of feminism, and feminism is not the female counterpart of the MRM. Feminism is an ideology based on the belief in Patriarchy Theory, a gynocentric, misandrous "hypothesis" created and upheld by willfully ignoring female privileges and male disadvantages. The MRM is a political movement based on the belief that men should have the same legal rights and protection women have, and that women should have the same le…
/r/MensRights14/07/12 05:43 PM
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I see what you did there! I like your wording.
/r/MensRights14/07/12 04:00 PM
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I'm a feminist for lots of reasons, but the bottom line is that I'm a feminist because I believe in gender equality Why would someone who believes in gender equality be interested in an ideology which promotes gender supremacy?
/r/MensRights14/07/12 03:57 PM
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I just answered one of the questions. Namely: (though it doesn't include envelopment?)
/r/MensRights13/07/12 07:09 PM
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I know, I just became a bit infuriated at the dishonesty and immaturity.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 06:42 PM
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Religious rights beating basic human rights... again.
/r/MensRights13/07/12 05:06 PM
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Her assertion that women (by which I believe she means feminists since she speaks of anti-feminists earlier in the sentence) ever asked for equal rights seems a bit infactual, seeing as feminists have never asked for equal rights, but more female privileges and less male privileges combined with less female responsibilities and more male responsibilities. And her assertion that nobody wants men to be eradicated also seems infactual, seeing as quite a few people have expressed such a wish, along …
/r/MensRights13/07/12 05:02 PM
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(though it doesn't include envelopment?) The definition is ambiguous, from a layman's perspective I'd make the claim that the definition doesn't include envelopment, and the CDC seems to agree with me: According to the legal definition of rape, men who are forcibly enveloped are not raped in the US. So by the looks of it, no, forced envelopment is not included in the new rape definition. I'd prefer that they'd just have made the old definition gender neutral; from "The carnal knowledge of a fema…
/r/MensRights13/07/12 04:04 PM
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So, women can joke about rape but men can't? Why exactly?
/r/MensRights13/07/12 03:34 PM
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Two points: The underlying premises of feminism are the underlying premises of "radical" feminism. Just like the underlying premises of Christianity are the underlying premises of Christian fundamentalism. The difference is in the interpretation, not the premise. What is it I "consider" to be the underlying premises of feminism?
/r/MensRights13/07/12 01:47 AM
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I haven't been to every country on earth or read through the legislation of every country, so I couldn't say really. But I am going to make a guess: There aren't any countries that don't treat men like shit?
/r/MensRights12/07/12 11:50 PM
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You seem to misunderstand my point, let me put it another way: I am not anti-Christian because I dislike what some Christians have said and continue to say. I am anti-Christian because I disagree with the underlying premise of Christianity. The same applies to feminism, I am not antifeminist because of what some feminists say and have said, not even because of what they do and have done, but because I don't agree with the underlying premises of feminism.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 11:48 PM
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Women Most people and legislations don't even think that forceful acts of sex on a male even IS rape... FTFY
/r/MensRights12/07/12 11:43 PM
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Your answer seems reasonable enough. Is having sex in this situation rape (in an ethical sense)? In an ethical sense, no. In a legal sense, it might be construed as rape, so I wouldn't advocate being satisfied with that type of consent. Not that most women (or men) would do that and then falsely accuse you of rape, but there are a few who would and they have a huge lobby and a legal system set up for them in such a case.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 11:41 PM
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I consider myself a Christian, but I don't believe Jesus Christ was the son of God, in fact I don't believe in God or any other divine creature. Makes sense? To me, it doesn't, which is why I don't consider myself a Christian. There has never been a time when feminism was about equality. Even the "first wave" was wholly gynocentric and created female-favouring laws along with ignoring female privileges already in existance. Feminism has always been gynocentric and more or less misandrous. Why? B…
/r/MensRights12/07/12 11:32 PM
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What, just now? Seriously though, in a way it is. Most countries in the world have rape laws that discriminate against men.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 07:51 PM
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And MGM is castration, but let's just ignore that, shall we? To be specific, I mean MGM type III.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 07:45 PM
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I prefer to call it mutilation in political contexts, however in medical context I call the forms that excise part of the tissue surrounding the glans circumcision, whether it's female or male. The forms that also excise part of the glans I refer to as glandectomy. Anyway, since this is political forum I agree, it's all mutilation and we should refer to it as such.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 07:35 PM
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I won't tell you you're wrong as that'd be an entirely subjective point of view, maybe you are right, maybe you're not. I'll just say I'll keep focusing on the laws.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 07:25 PM
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Another song on the same topic.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 12:26 AM
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It's about too much masculinism in political and social life. There's too much what now? How many politicians and public figures are masculi(ni)sts?
/r/MensRights12/07/12 12:09 AM
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I don't think so. I think most people actually believe men aren't discriminated against. I mean, even some MRAs say stuff like 'We already have equal rights'...
/r/MensRights12/07/12 12:05 AM
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I wonder if there ever has been an organized political or philosophical movement that hasn't suffered from radicals that led the movement astray or hurt its reputation. I am not talking about so called radicals, I am talking about the ideology itself. Hence my analogy about basic beliefs in Christianity, not those held only by Christian fundamentalists. The moment feminists started fighting for women's suffrage, they were about equality What? If they had advocated for women to be conscripted as …
/r/MensRights11/07/12 11:02 PM
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As long as the money's hers, spend away.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 08:00 PM
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I consider myself a Christian, but I don't believe Jesus Christ was the son of God, in fact I don't believe in God or any other divine creature. Makes sense? There has never been a time when feminism was about equality. Even the "first wave" was wholly gynocentric and created female-favouring laws along with ignoring female privileges already in existance. Feminism has always been gynocentric and more or less misandrous.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 07:53 PM
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You lose the natural gliding action that comes with a protective foreskin, along with the numbing of the glans, and the loss of several thousand nerve endings and the frenulum which is by far the most sensitive part on, at least, my body. So yeah, it makes masturbation (and sex) more difficult and less pleasurable.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 07:46 PM
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I don't remember who it was, but some time back someone wrote a submission about the CONSAD report being removed from the white house site.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 07:41 PM
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Obviously, but most examples of "societal sexism" is far less palpatable in the lives of men than misandrous laws. And it will take a whole lot longer to change society's view than it will to change a law. So give men equal rights and protection first, then we can deal with those other things.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 07:40 PM
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Men need to listen to women and women need to listen to women. So, gynocentrism and misandry ftw!? When women needed battered women's shelters, they got it dne. They didn't depend on men to do it for them. Ehm, Erin Pizzey was the one who started the women's shelters. She did it by getting funding from men. She also started men's shelters, couldn't get any funding. She recognised that DV was not a gender issue, it was an issue of learned behaviour and affected men and women equally, this landed …
/r/MensRights11/07/12 07:33 PM
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For every damaging stereotype about women, there is an equal and opposite one about men. I don't buy it. In some cases it is true, in others it is not. And to me, the whole societal sexism-bit takes a backseat to legal inequalities.
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:55 PM
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These experts she worked with on "Capital Hill", were they the ones who removed the CONSAD report?
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:46 PM
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Hardly a discussion, more like oh, you think you can outsmart me, well I can outshout you!
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:45 PM
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Here one'd imagine she'd bring up inequalities such as men not having reproductive rights and a severe lack of parental rights, no paternity leave, family courts, alimony and alimony 2 (CS) etc... But nope, it's men are on thw whole quite shit, and the ones who aren't have a somewhat hard time beause of things that when compared to the things mentioned above don't really matter. While, you know, those who get two jobs to keep the family finances afloat, who don't get to see their kids and work t…
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:36 PM
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It's a form of anti-white racism that benefits whites... Wait a minute!
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:24 PM
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I did and I cried, that woman was pure evil and it showed the leniency women are treated with in the "justice system".
/r/MensRights11/07/12 06:22 PM
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This includes forced retraction of your foreskin (if you have one), a cavity search, and shoving a q-tip up your uretha to check for STDs. So, in essence, it is quite possible they were sexually assaulted/raped by the police as a result of them being falsely accused of rape?
/r/MensRights11/07/12 01:37 AM
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In my experience, being the primary breadwinner doesn't mean you make all the financial decisions, or even a majority...
/r/MensRights11/07/12 12:12 AM
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It makes you wonder: What are these "intimate physical examinations"?
/r/MensRights10/07/12 11:54 PM
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Thanks for your support. Gracias por su apoyo.
/r/MensRights10/07/12 09:41 PM
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Right wing, sure. They are our right wing party. But conservative? To me, deregulation, privatisation and tax cuts, etc... are liberal values. Liberal is right wing in Sweden. Don't all parties have a strong stance against crime? I guess feminism is conservative since they have such a strong stance against crimes committed by men against women? So much in fact, that they claim that the prevalence of it is proof of inequality. And if feminism is conservative, then all our parties are conservative…
/r/MensRights09/07/12 09:10 PM
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Well, frankly, screw the comfort of the majority Good, we don't need to accomodate women with gynocentric rubbish from now on then. Of course, if you don't, you're hardly going to win an election... Tyranny of the majority, that's how democracy works. It's not a particularly good system, but it's better than the alternative.
/r/MensRights09/07/12 08:35 PM
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Not that the other parties are much better (not trying to defend Vänstern), but you know all the established parties are feminist.
/r/MensRights09/07/12 08:29 PM
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I am curious, I know you are a "leftist" (the horror), so perhaps you could shed some light on this for me. I am a Swede, and I can't say I see any major differences between the political parties in our elected establishment. What policies of Moderaterna are conservative from an American left-wing point of view?
/r/MensRights09/07/12 08:29 PM
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I'd really consider this trivial considering the legal discrimination men have and do face.
/r/MensRights09/07/12 12:22 AM
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English is not my first language, but to my understanding also could refer to it being even more difficult to prove the lack of something... And I must admit, the onus threw me off a bit. Is it meant to be in place of 'something'?
/r/MensRights09/07/12 12:08 AM
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Why are you involved with a bigot? Do you support her ideas of gynocentric privileges enshrined in law?
/r/MensRights08/07/12 11:53 PM
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Why did you repeat yourself? And then use a Yiddish(?) term? Anyway, while looking up stories on Afghan stonings I could not locate the YT-video. This was the only one I could find. I am not sure if it's the same couple, I don't think so, but I can't be sure.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 11:45 PM
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provide un-cited evidence for your argument. As did you. It contained graphic video which lead to it being taken down. Two people were stoned to death in the video, uncensored. So, unless it's saved in some sort of archive or elsewhere on the internet, I am not sure how that would be possible. I believe it was linked here, so if I could find the submission about it here, that might offer some proof.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 11:12 PM
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provide for myself And for someone else. not worry about being raped, beaten or accused of having sex and then raped again or killed. Because legally you can't be raped.
/r/MensRights08/07/12 10:57 PM
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but men are rarely - if ever - punished because of their gender. Utter BS, men are victimised because of their sex in Afghanistan, just like everywhere else in the world. Conscription and impressment are perhaps the most obvious examples, but listen to what Syrian people have told us: the men are executed, and they leave the women alone (by and large). Ever wondered why there are hardly any men among the refugees in war-stricken areas? They're killed, while the women and children are left alive.…
/r/MensRights08/07/12 10:53 PM
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It should. Whether that is actually teh case in Swedish jurisprudence I don't know. I don't think such a case has been tested in court, at least not at a level where it would set precedence. To me it appears to not be. The High Court (Supreme Court?) reached the conclusion that while manual stimulation of female genitalia without consent is rape, the same does not apply to cases of male victims. It is instead "sexuellt tvång". As a side note, there are quite a few people in Sweden advocating for…
/r/MensRights06/07/12 12:29 AM
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It seemed a little unclear to me if they considered men as victims of DV or went with the feminist model. And, to me there are only two ways DV can be seen as an issue of inequality: the feminist way or the MR way. The feminist way, naturally, derives from Patriarchy Theory and claims that DV is a gender equality issue because men hold power over women and that this suuposed power is the cause of DV. Therefore, DV is not a crime committed by people who have learned that behaviour or have issues.…
/r/MensRights06/07/12 12:21 AM
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I would teach her to take responsibility for her own actions and that she shouldn't indulge in chauvinist behaviour.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 11:45 PM
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That is not according to law. We do have retarded police officers, same as other countries, but that case would hold up in court. True, but the application of the law is ridiculous and too many police officers and, in some cases even prosecutors (e.g. the BDSM-case) seem to apply it like this. And it doesn't exactly help with the "15 out of 16 rapists walk free", bullshit. Sadly our lower courts are shit. Do you know if she appealed the decision? I very much doubt such a ruling would be upheld o…
/r/MensRights05/07/12 11:35 PM
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Isn't that for you guys to figure out? Not necessarily. If more women than men are interested in that field, there really isn't much that can be done about it without violating our policy of equal opportunity and treatment. What I would consider doing though, mind you this is all based on my own limited personal encounters with that field, is to reduce the feminist influence in it. A lot of what I've seen coming from that camp is misandrous and seems to be based on feminist theory more than actu…
/r/MensRights05/07/12 10:40 PM
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Sweden's rape laws are sensible Not concerning the definition of rape, it's not. In Lund, two boys pushed a teen girl, the police labelled it "rape" because according to the girl 'stod deras snoppar upp (their willies were standing up)'. Thankfully, this didn't lead to anything other than the common misleading rape statistics being inflated with yet another non-rape rape case and conviction/attrition rates being misrepresented even more. And there are conviction based on nothing but accusations …
/r/MensRights05/07/12 09:58 PM
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Yet men have no reproductive rights and far from equal parental rights. So much for "equal rights at home"... And men can have a career and be "responsible" dads? So working to provide for your family is not being responsible? I'll take an example from my own life, being a Swede, a male work colleague had a daughter this spring. Following her birth he took the 10 days off. Then he was going to wait for the summer so he could have a 12-weeks parental leave and holiday. The only problem was that h…
/r/MensRights05/07/12 09:47 PM
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Ok, good, don't know if the writer does though. But how do you suggest we get more male therapists?
/r/MensRights05/07/12 08:36 PM
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It is? He is?
/r/MensRights05/07/12 12:07 AM
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I am not sure I quite understand what you mean. But to get to the point, there's a lack of male therapists you claim. What's to be done about it? Affirmative action for men going into psychology? Gender quotas? A complete reconstruction of the psychological field? Another route to lower male suicide rates would be giving men equal parental rights, and getting rid of alimony along with equal protection against spousal abuse, etc... But I guess that is out of the question.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 11:57 PM
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Not in any way a critique of your comment, just curious: Is conscription still in effect?
/r/MensRights04/07/12 09:45 PM
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I was called a misogynist for saying that women being raped is as bad as men being raped, not worse.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 09:19 PM
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I never made the claim that she was feminist, just that her organisation, Planned Parenthood, is heralded by feminists. Other than the possessions in other. non-wester, countries. White supremacy at its finest. Yeah, Austria had no colonies... Additionally, the laws of the 'home country' were not always enforced in their colonies. So, let's say that Austria had had a colony in, say... Kenya, the indigenous peoples of Kenya would not have been subject to the feminist laws of Austria regarding mat…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 09:09 PM
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No, you found victimhood where there was none. You claimed her views were dismissed because she was a woman, that would imply anti-woman victimhood.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 08:53 PM
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Yet you claimed she was dismissed because she's female. That is pretend-victimhood.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 11:34 PM
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Immediately dismissed because she is female. Finding victimhood where none exists. I take it you're a feminist.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 11:18 PM
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I'll grant the possibility that there were issues, but women were far from having equal rights, and, honestly, you are promoting a white supremacist group here... does that give you no pause? Men were far from having equal rights, still are. Justitia was situated in Vienna, Austria. In Austria, at this time, there were no non-whites other than maybe Romani people (if they count). Feminism influenced almost only white people in Europe, since the vast, vast majority of people living there were whi…
/r/MensRights03/07/12 08:22 PM
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It's always been..? It used to be acceptable to be sexist against men and women, but not anymore, now it's just against men. Maybe that's what's being referred to....
/r/MensRights02/07/12 11:48 PM
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Affirmative action and quotas? I'd suggest we don't have equal opportunity.
/r/MensRights02/07/12 08:08 PM
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Edit: And yes, I'm very Anglo-centric in my arguments here, sorry, I only know British history. The prefix 'anglo' refers to England, not Britain, right? I think it could be argued effectively that they are property and the my disagreements with Typhon over whether they were wards or property seem to come down to pedantics and precise word definition. I don't think so. Property is something you own and you can do however you please with it. A ward is a person under the protection or care of anot…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 07:59 PM
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I want you to point out when the modern church, let's say one of the mainstream ones, Catholicism or Protestantism, has sacrificed everything for women. And I do want the church, since the church is an institution of patriarchy IE a man's organisation, presumably it has sacrificed something for women. Because it's run by men. First off, the Protestant church doesn't exist. There are various Protestant churches: Presbyterian, Anglican, Lutheran, etc... Second, if men were to sacrifice for women a…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 01:16 AM
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What does the SlutWalk movement have to do with the feminists holding and posting "Tell men not to rape" signs? The movement is about changing societal standards. The SlutWalkers hold those signs. Changing societal standards for female victims only, the group which already gets treated better. What I have heard is that males can't be raped, which I agree is a sexist attitude, but that has nothing to do with the SlutWalk movement. So, when they choose to ignore men as anything but perpetrators an…
/r/MensRights02/07/12 12:19 AM
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Bax was an ardent antifeminist, yes. And he did oppose "womanhood suffrage", yes. Why? Because he recognised that women already had too many privileges, and until those were dealt with (removed or extended to men as well), womanhood suffrage would be against equality: It is absurd for feminist advocates to trot out their threadbare grievance of the want of the suffrage as a serious disability in the face of all the privileges we have been discussing.. It may be right, or it may he wrong, for wom…
/r/MensRights01/07/12 10:28 PM
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Isn't that partially the point though? Men aren't shamed for sleeping with a lot of women, yet women are shamed for sleeping with a lot of men. Slutshaming men doesn't really happen on a mass scale. Even if this were true, how would that justify the blatant sexism found in their "Tell men not to rape"-signs? To fight against it would largely be fighting a problem that largely doesn't exist. Ehm, just stop for one minute and think about how men are treated after they've been raped. If it's even a…
/r/MensRights01/07/12 09:54 PM
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Slutwalk being gynocentric is sexist. Not to mention the "tell men not to rape"-thing they've got going. Because, apparently, women don't rape and men are rapists. I want reproductive rights for men, women already have them.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 08:26 PM
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they start joining the SlutWalk Movement Why? What do the Slutwalks have to do with equality? They are gynocentric and sexist. fighting for their reproductive rights. Whose reproductive rights? Women's current reproductive privileges or men's non-existing reproductive rights?
/r/MensRights30/06/12 12:53 AM
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Ehm, custody sexism kills people. Lots of fathers take their own lives after they've been denied any sort of access to their children.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 12:05 AM
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poisoning girls who go to school in the middle east First, you need to specify the middle east, there are a plethora of countries in that region. Second, is it legal? women in the united states military are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than be killed by enemy fire Maybe this has something to do with the fact that women don't serve on the front line. I would also guess that male soldiers are more likely to be raped than to be killed by enemy fire given the relatively low causalty r…
/r/MensRights29/06/12 09:53 PM
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One of the similarities between feminists and Christians, they both believe in virgin birth.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 09:22 PM
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Firstly: I would claim that beat is more straight forward than rape. The word has several meanings. Secondly: Yes, it is. From my own experience 'beat' is far more common than 'rape'. Thirdly: Don't know what Tomb Raider is, other than that mildly entertaining film starring Jolie. And I don't care, it doesn't change the fact that a) it's just a word. and b) they chose to single out that particular word and ignore 'kill', 'murder', 'beat' etc...
/r/MensRights27/06/12 07:55 PM
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Look pal, I used the example 'beat', and seeing as physical assault is a lot more common than rape and often very traumatic, chances are more people's feelings will be hurt by 'misusing' that word than by the misuse of the word 'rape'. Why are they and their feelings not to be considered? The article makes one mention of rape culture, that is to state that it won't discuss it since others have done it better. Why do you MRAs insist on bringing it up? For one thing, it intertwined with the occurr…
/r/MensRights27/06/12 01:42 AM
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A word is a word, to you the words cunt and cock might be offensive, but to me they aren't. Perhaps we shouldn't say I beat you when we want to say I won and you lost, as it might hurt the feelings of someone who's been physically assaulted? I am very much against using the term 'rape' lightly, like in: These two people had sex while drunk, therefore she's been raped! and other "rape-culture" bullshit.
/r/MensRights27/06/12 01:00 AM
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Arranged marriages are arranged for both men and women. Islamic men have a dress code, and in some countries (or parts of countries), they get killed for dressing "western", or women's clothing, or not modestly enough. Also, Islamic cultures are not all the same, for instance Sunni and Shia are as different as Protestant and Catholic.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 09:00 PM
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Precisely, I've argued for a long time now that feminism never was about equality, at no point since its inception has it not been sexist. It is possible that it has become more sexist as the years have passed and it's 'evolved' into its current form, but I cannot see how it ever wasn't misandrous, gynocentric sexism.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 12:45 AM
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But basically if you delve into the history of feminism you uncover a lot of dark stuff. Indeed you do. Anyway this is a great read, and always good to show the 'leftists are evil'-right wingers that socialism doesn't necessarily mean compliance with feminism and misandry.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 12:42 AM
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phallocentric The male equivalent to gynocentrism is not phallocentrism, it's androcentrism. If you were looking for an antonym for phallocentrism, I suppose it'd be yonicentrism?
/r/MensRights26/06/12 12:40 AM
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Obama's a politician, isn't he? Then, yes he does. Party politics is fueled by misandry and revolves around pandering to the female vote, of course he has it out for men, they all do. That's how you win an election...
/r/MensRights25/06/12 08:25 PM
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Excellent, thank you OP!
/r/MensRights25/06/12 08:08 PM
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In essence, he details some (perhaps most, though not all) of the legal privileges women enjoyed in 19th century (up until 1908) Britain. They are too many to give in the form of TL;DR, so I suggest everyone reads it, it is a good read.
/r/MensRights25/06/12 08:07 PM
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Indeed, it is always wrong to discriminate. When that discrimination is enshrined into law, it is worse.
/r/MensRights25/06/12 12:43 AM
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If men make more on their own merit, why don't women? Affirmative action, gender quotas, discrimination in education, etc... It's not that they don't earn their wages, or that they don't deserve them, it's that women do have unfair advantages in education and the labour market.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 11:08 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the issue with the "wage gap" the fact that it is claimed that women earn less than men for doing the same work? It is, and it's a bullshit claim that has been debunked time and time again. I don't understand the issue with that. Could someone explain why that isn't "fair"? Affrimative action and gender quotas, Title IX and other forms of discrimination men face in education are what the issue is. The privileges women enjoy in education and the labour market ar…
/r/MensRights24/06/12 11:05 PM
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But the converse certainly happens, albeit at a lower frequency. Not really, if we were to include forced envelopment in the definition of rape, the difference in rates and numbers isn't that great. So to say "men can stop rape" is extremely sexist and prejudiced. But, it's ok because 'Pay-tree-are-key'...
/r/MensRights24/06/12 10:54 PM
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But she is lying for the benefit of her agenda, which is to benefit all women.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 07:38 PM
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I wish she could have told these men just how secondary their victimhood is. I am sure they would have been relieved to hear it, had they not been dead. Note: The graves contain the bodies of some 15 000 French men and boys sent to their slaughter in 1916, the ossuary behind the cemetery contains the unidentified remains of approximately 130 000 of these privileged beings.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 04:13 PM
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So I'm leaning away from sarcasm, and more towards: lying for the benefit of her agenda. So, you're telling me Clinton's a feminist?
/r/MensRights24/06/12 04:03 PM
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Men are severely discriminated against in education, the labour market, the criminal courts, the family courts, the law, everywhere in society, yet she wants to "right the norms" so that women aren't "victmised". Men being victimised is quite alright, but what if some women suffer as a result? Dear God, somebody do something! Yep, that's a feminist, alright. Sexist scum is another epithet. Fuck her and her bigotry.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 12:51 AM
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By other men who wouldn't let women serve. By other men and women who considered women too valuable to be exposed to too much danger. Women leaders have conscripted men as well, but, sure, let's ignore that and blame those who suffer this oppression: men. Women were not allowed to work because men wouldn't hire inferior workers. No laws stated women couldn't work. Women were very much allowed to work. Most chose not to, and most men chose to take on the role as sole provider with the advent of t…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 09:28 PM
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Comparitevly men have had more control over their bodies than women have. How? Men have been conscripted throughout history, and still are, women aren't. Women had a right to her husband's earnings (mostly gained through manual labour back in the day, i.e. using his body), and oftentimes still do. Women have been able legally rape their husbands (and other men) with impunity throughout history, in many cases still are. Men don't have the right to own or disown their sperm, etc... In cases like c…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 12:07 AM
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So, the members of parliament that granted women universal suffrage were feminists? The suffragettes did however campaign for it, they somehow managed to 'forget' campaigning for women to be subject to conscription. You know, that sex-specific enslavement which was one of the main reasons men could vote a few years before all women could. When will men get the right to their own bodies? When will this female privilege be extended to men?
/r/MensRights22/06/12 11:22 PM
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Can OP tell me why I shouldn't despise feminism?
/r/MensRights22/06/12 09:29 PM
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Could someone post the text here? I don't want to visit any feminist websites, due to possible ad revenue and probable nausea-inducing sexist content.
/r/MensRights22/06/12 01:33 AM
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Pro-choice men get this, and that's why they've stepped so far back from the political conversation. And pro-choice women have encouraged their silence, because we've learned the hard way that whenever we get men involved in these discussions, we're vastly raising the risk that some of them are going to try to assert control over our choices. Sexist bigot is a sexist bigot. She's also a privilege-denying liar, who claims that men have reproductive rights and that women don't... She is one of the…
/r/MensRights21/06/12 10:39 PM
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Most assume that when prison rape is discussed, it's all about inmate-on-inmate rape/sexual assault. When was the last time you saw a film depicting prison rape with a guard raping an inmate? If the guard is female, you'll get bonus points. In male prisons this is the most likely scenario, but we never hear about it. It's the same outside of prison, we only hear about men raping women, so we assume that's the way it is, even though it isn't.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:58 PM
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That is indeed interesting.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:56 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/varxv/prison_rape_accounted_for_the_majority_of_all/c52vjxw
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:53 PM
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So either the survey is very flawed, or Naomi is picking and choosing her data and ignoring male victims. Both?
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:49 PM
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So, men who are raped in prison are not necessarily raped by men Men who are raped in prison are not necessarily raped by other men, some are, some aren't. As I said, when you look at the numbers presented, the rates come out pretty equal when it comes to the sex of the perpetrator of male prison rape.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 08:40 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/varxv/prison_rape_accounted_for_the_majority_of_all/c52vjxw
/r/MensRights20/06/12 01:29 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/varxv/prison_rape_accounted_for_the_majority_of_all/c52vjxw
/r/MensRights20/06/12 01:29 AM
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Women are raped in prison too, at higher rates (especially, inmate-on-inmate) than men are it would seem, although obviously not in higher numbers as more men are incarcerated than women. A quick set of numbers: Female inmates in prison (4.7%) or jail (3.1%) were more than twice as likely as male inmates in prison (1.9%) or jail (1.3%) to report experiencing inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization. Most victims of staff sexual misconduct were males; most perpetrators were females. Among male victi…
/r/MensRights20/06/12 01:23 AM
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When someone says be a man/man up, it means consider yourself last/do what others want.
/r/MensRights19/06/12 09:10 PM
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Regarding rape in general and prison rape in particular.
/r/MensRights19/06/12 08:59 PM
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What would they gain from telling people that more men are raped than women?
/r/MensRights19/06/12 08:11 PM
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Do they take PayPal? I don't have a credit card that is compatible with Amazonpayments options.
/r/MensRights18/06/12 11:57 PM
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Yep, you guessed it. Men being abused by their wives -it's men's fault! Why shouldn't women beat their husbands when they're not having sex with them, or don't have a job? /s
/r/MensRights17/06/12 12:33 AM
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The right to be conscripted?! One of the greatest achievements of feminism has been to re-define female privileges as a disadvantage, and oppression of men as an advantage.
/r/MensRights16/06/12 09:02 PM
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So, you're saying a woman forcing a man to have sex with her by enveloping him has not committed rape? Because that is what those two sources say, and that if you include that in rape statistics (this is a big if, because as you can see, you don't and the CDC didn't, they defined it as "other sexual violence"), all of a sudden you end up with a lot more even distribution of perpetration and victimisation. Strange how that works, by not disregarding female perpetrators and male victims, you get m…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 10:06 PM
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I'd say the male equivelant of the type of female genital mutilation that people lose their shit over would be removing the head of the penis, the foreskin an half of the shaft. So it would be like MGM Type II? Anyway, I disagree. The clitoris is homologous to the penis, the head of the clitoris is homologous to the head of the penis. Therefore cutting off part of the head of the clitoris would be the equivalent of cutting off part of the head of the penis, not the entire head and half the shaft…
/r/MensRights14/06/12 11:54 PM
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Ehm, it wasn't socially acceptable for a man to sleep around, nor is it now. You could have made the case that it was more acceptable than for a woman... Why? Mummy's baby, daddy's maybe. In the evolutionary struggle to procreate, women could always be sure that the baby they gave birth to carried their genes, men could not. So when we went from promiscuous mating to monogamous pair-bonding, female promiscuity was more harshly judged, since it could leave her husband cuckolded. However, it wasn'…
/r/MensRights14/06/12 11:08 PM
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Question: When is Rape Not Rape? Answer: When a Rapist Uses Her Vagina The first thing to note is that the NIPSVS decided that men being forced to have sex with women isn’t rape. Let’s think about this again. The NIPSVS finds that men are the majority perpetrators of rape. 98% of female rape victims and 93% of male rape victims had a male perpetrator. A woman shoving her fingers up a man’s anus is rape, but a woman shoving her vagina down on his penis is not. The latter is not classified as rape…
/r/MensRights14/06/12 10:50 PM
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It's almost as if she thinks that fathers of the past were these remote men who didn't emotionally attach to their children. Or that they weren't involved in their children's lives or that their children didn't know that their father loved them. It's almost as if she believes this... ...This feminist myth about fathers. What has feminism done for fatherhood? Oh, a great deal, it has removed fathers' rights to their children, of course leaving all of the old responsibilities intact. When I think …
/r/MensRights14/06/12 01:14 AM
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I realise now that celebrating was a stupid choice. Why would I want it celebrated? Acknowledging is a better option. I want mens' lives to be acknowledged, hopefully it will help combat the misandry, obviously it won't help with the gynocentricity problem. But, perhaps that is innate in us. It would make sense from an evolutionary point of view, after all. At the very least, it might dispel the myth of male privilege.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 12:52 AM
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This whole series is excellent. Recommended viewing.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 09:54 PM
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No, women's studies arose from feminist theory. The idea that academia, science, history and culture is androcentric is feminist. Not necessary at all, but sexist bigotry. Didn't people know who Marie Curie was prior to women's studies? Or Elizabeth I? Most of the influential people in history were men, when we learn about those, we don't learn about the male experience, we learn about that man's experience. This is similar to the apex fallacy that is touted by feminists regarding today's cultur…
/r/MensRights13/06/12 09:39 PM
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On the topic of early men's rights groups: Does anyone happen to have any information on the fifty-fifty league?
/r/MensRights13/06/12 09:20 PM
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There is no rape-culture outside of prison. Unless you count female-perpetrated rape, which is often condoned. As an answer to your questions though. No, it's not supposed to be women's and gender studies. Gender studies is women's studies. It is sexist. Society scapegoats men because of gynocentricity and misandry. Society condones legal and social discrimination against men because of gynocentricity and misandry.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 09:17 PM
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How so?
/r/MensRights13/06/12 12:39 AM
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These two links might be of interest.
/r/MensRights12/06/12 12:28 AM
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Where did he say that women don't pay taxes? His position seems to be that government shouldn't use tax money to pay for other people's healthcare. It is a fairly common opinion in the US, I've come to understand. What's misogynistic about it?
/r/MensRights11/06/12 11:59 PM
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Grandparents have and should have ZERO rights. Fuck you. Grandparents commit horrible atrocities to families, simply to satisfy their wants/desires/beliefs. Fuck you. And, as for the rest, fuck you. You're a horrible person.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 10:46 PM
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Work is exploitation? Or just selling sexual favours? As opposed to 'manual labour' of a different kind?
/r/MensRights10/06/12 10:33 PM
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I've got a sister who lives in Malmö, I've been there several times. In fact she lives close to Rosengård, the part of Malmö which is almost entirely populated by immigrants. It is not just like Iraq, they still live under Swedish law (which isn't all that great). The fact that immigrants get to keep their culture and speak their own language with eachother doesn't breed hate.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 06:30 PM
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Actually, the translation is incorrect. We hate white, rich, straight men in Swedish would be Vi hatar vita, rika, straighta män, what the sign actually says is Hata vita, rika, straighta män meaning Hate white, rich, straight men. They are telling others to hate, had it been directed towards any other group in Sweden (women, disabled, gay, immigrants, etc...) they would be facing charges on hate speech. This is nothing out of the ordinary in Sweden. We usually get politicians and 'top journalis…
/r/MensRights10/06/12 05:04 PM
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I've grown up and live in a feminist society. That's where I get it from.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 03:11 PM
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They're sexist arseholes. Why bother?
/r/MensRights10/06/12 03:03 PM
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The premises are hateful, the main one perhaps being the belief that men were privileged and women oppressed, instead of both having certain different advantages/privileges and (oftentimes corresponding) burdens/disadvantages. So based on this faulty premise, with the intent to achieve equality, you get advocacy for an increase in female privileges and a decrease in their responsibilities along with a decrease in male privileges and an increase in their responsibilities. As I said, I don't think…
/r/MensRights10/06/12 02:55 PM
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I didn't imply that your different experiences made you a troll. It's just we get quite a few trolls here. Because it's arisen from gynocentric, sexist ideas presented in the west mainly by feminism.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 02:41 PM
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Not sure if trolling or not. I've talked to quite a few men in my life, no-one's ever said anything like this, apart from the odd feminist moron. Unless you count politicians and members of the 'cultural elite' and journalists, of course, if you do the number goes up. But that's what happens when you live in a feminist society that only allows feminist opinions. Anyway, I'd tell them to stop listening to feminist propaganda, because it's all rubbish.
/r/MensRights10/06/12 12:56 AM
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The adherents of an ideology are defined by both their actions and their beliefs, i.e. the ideology. Feminist actions have been and are very misandrous. Feminism, the feminist ideology, is based on misandrous "theories" and premises. Even with the best intentions, you'll end up with evil if your premise is hateful. Now, I am not certain feminism arose with the best of intentions, in fact I am fairly certain it didn't so to me, it doesn't matter at all but to those who still cling to the idea of …
/r/MensRights10/06/12 12:34 AM
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I can't stand to listen to this bigot again. From his site: A CALL TO MEN believes that preventing domestic and sexual violence is ultimately the responsibility of men. and A CALL TO MEN: The National Association of Men and Women Committed to Ending Violence Against Women. and Please join A CALL TO MEN and other men (young and old) in promoting a healthier and more respectful manhood. Become 1 of the 5,000 of us who are standing up and speaking out together to end violence and discrimination aga…
/r/MensRights09/06/12 02:07 PM
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I am not a sexist bigot who has a religious belief in "Patriarchy" and wants endless privleges for the female sex with endless responsitibilities imposed upon the male sex. That's my main reason.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 11:02 PM
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The ones involved in the case saying that it is a lie does not refute Liza Marklund 'considering' the bulk of the story true? The video showing the young girl playing happily with her dad when she was supposed to be so scared of him that she'd stopped talking. Mia's claims that Osama's second family were hiding from him when they in fact were not doesn't tell you that 'Mia' and Marklund are lying? Etc... Lie after lie being exposed, but Marklund having a feeling that it's mostly true rebukes it …
/r/MensRights08/06/12 10:41 PM
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Understandable, I only know the basic stuff when it comes to American history.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 09:50 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faT2qSNZH5I I don't know if you're Swedish, if you are the video is going to be more informative than if you are not. Since the translation doesn't cover everything and isn't gramatically correct.
/r/MensRights08/06/12 09:45 PM
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It was just a short introduction, so to speak. I am Swedish, born in 1989. In the nineties, there was a new surge of feminism here, with politicians such as Gudrun Schyman (one of the feminists who proposed the 'man-tax') gaining popularity amongst the people of Sweden. Along with her, I can name Liza Marklund's rise to fame with her book Gömda (Hidden) which was supposedly based on a true story about domsetic violence against women (this latter part is of course redundant, since in Sweden we do…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 10:45 PM
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I grew up in Sweden in the 90s - early 00s.
/r/MensRights07/06/12 07:40 PM
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And please don't mention false accusations from an angry ex, because here's the thing, currently our legal system has a very low conviction rate for rape, a low reporting rate and a low rate of police taking claims seriously (dunno what that is called). Conviction rate for rape is ~60%, which is not low. It is about the same as, slightly higher than, the average conviction rate for reportable crimes. As for the rate of reporting, how do you know? Police not taking it seriously? This source begs …
/r/MensRights06/06/12 11:22 PM
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If you don't mind I'd like to answer that question, from my own perspective of course. So does this answer mean that you believe we have gone from a system of equality to one of inequality? No, the old system wasn't based on equality, but rather on equity. There were advantages and disadvantages pertaining to your sex for both men and women. What we've done is we have transitioned into a system which is neither equal nor equitable, in the name of equality: disadvantages for men and privileges fo…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 10:54 PM
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I'll just leave these two links here.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 10:25 PM
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What's this? A politician pandering to the majority in attempts to score votes? Who knew!
/r/MensRights04/06/12 10:17 PM
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Did he ever offer an explanation as to why he "clearly discriminated" against his female staff? I believe that Obama knows fully well that the "wage gap" is a lie, but keeps it alive because “Women are Obama’s base..." as the article states.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 10:14 PM
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I am confused, you're saying women get paid less for the same work? To take your examples: If you're on sick leave, you don't get paid/get paid a certain percentage of your wages (in my country it's 80% the first forenight), so being sick causes you to get paid less, not that the employer might think you'll take sick leave... The same applies to maternity leave, you don't earn as much being on maternity leave as you would if you worked. So, once again, it's the maternity leave that causes you to…
/r/MensRights04/06/12 10:10 PM
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I'm sure you realize the reason men are often overlooked with regards to things like domestic abuse and rape is because women are overwhelmingly the victims of these crimes, False. Rape by women is not recognised, which is why you end up with skewed biased statistics. Domestic abuse is equally perpetrated by men and women, several studies showing more male victimisation and female perpetration than vice versa. AND also because of traditional notions of masculinity that say it's not possible for …
/r/MensRights04/06/12 12:18 AM
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Not everyone's American, it might come as a bit of a shock to you, but in fact the vast majority of the world's population is not from the US.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 11:15 PM
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I didn't even consider the legal inequality here, but rather the societal one. Thanks for reminding me.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 11:02 PM
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I'd rather we told women not to rape, seeing as rape by women is not recognised as a crime.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 06:38 PM
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I don't think the two claims are interchangeable. Here's why: Abortion involves terminating a foetus, killing someone involves killing a human being. Saying abortion is wrong (gendercide) when it is done because the foetus is female is like saying that when you abort for this reason you terminate a foetus, but when you abort for that reason you kill a human being. Either we allow abortion, or we don't.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 08:56 PM
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I concur, Taslima Nasreen is an imbecile. But she's more than that, she's a disgusting sexist bigot. Of course, that sort of comes with the territory when you're a feminist. Men and boys don't ever go on diets or take steroids or work-out to get that 'perfect' body! Never happens, we know this because feminists tell us so, and as we all know feminists don't constantly lie, in fact they never lie! And if you claim that it does in fact happen, you're a misogynist who hates women's bodies!
/r/MensRights02/06/12 02:34 PM
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Caveat: I'm pro-abortion, will not use the term pro-choice, because it's stupid as is pro-life. Why should the reason for an abortion make the act of abortion illegal?! Either abortion is legal, whatever the reason, or it is not. But we must remember the old feminist trick to rename actions depending on whether they like them or not: Terminate a foetus for reasons other than sex selection - abortion (good). Terminate a female foetus because it's female - female foeticide; gendercide; clear proof…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 02:13 PM
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Was it supposed to? That was just her reasoning for her no vote. No, I don't think so. It was just a response to the fact that Redxl brought up feminism and defending it. I didn't see the relevance and I thought I should point that out. Well, women back then did need more privileges. Though the "reducing male privileges" part is bullshit. It doesn't invalidate the whole movement. No, women didn't need more privileges, they had too many. If equality was the goal, female privileges would have been…
/r/MensRights28/05/12 09:14 PM
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You may agree with me, but that doesn't mean that I do with you. I never stated that men were considered disposable because of their superior muscular strength, in fact I would posit a contrary belief, strength in males make them less disposable, since there wasn't much use for a weak man who couldn't do a 'man's job'. I believe male disposability and female protection stem from biology, but not to do with muscular strength but reproductive anatomy, and that this is rather firmly entrenched in t…
/r/MensRights28/05/12 08:58 PM
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Feminism was as sexist back then as it is nowadays. Religions usually don't change that much in such a short period of time. 'Classic' feminism was not a "crucial improvement for all of humankind", it was about increasing female privileges whilst reducing male privileges. Her pacifist beliefs did not represent feminism: [w]omen’s rights activist, Carrie Chapman Catt and a majority of the women’s suffragists considered Rankin’s vote against war to be a handicap to the women’s movement. By placing…
/r/MensRights28/05/12 08:42 PM
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She also believed, as many women’s suffragists advocated during this period, that the corruption and dysfunction of the United States government was a result of a lack of feminine participation. As she states very clearly at a disarmament conference during the interwar years, “The peace problem is a woman’s problem… So, I reserve my praise for her, I laud her pacifist opinions, but her sexist beliefs don't sit well with me (not her quote in the title, which is commendable). Also, her own pacifis…
/r/MensRights28/05/12 08:35 PM
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The reason the White Feather campaign was so "successful" is because it played on the patriarchal gynocentric culture of "Weak delicate women must be protected by the big tough men!" The protection of women, and the sacrifice of men. It's a recurring theme throughout history. While it's true women were privileged not to have to join the war, the reason for this privilege wasn't because women were valued more than men, it's because they were considered not competant enough to fight in the army. T…
/r/MensRights28/05/12 12:49 AM
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I'm not sure when you think WW1 took place... But it wasn't in the early 1800s.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 10:00 PM
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GWW's not a feminist, though. She's an antifeminist. Edit: Sorry, I missed the question mark...
/r/MensRights26/05/12 11:13 PM
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Scenario A, a drunk woman asks a man if he wants sex. He accepts and they have sex. She is not a rape victim. Scenario B, a drunk woman is asked by a man if she wants to have sex. She accepts and they have sex. She is not a rape victim. Scenario C, a drunk woman is asked by a man if she wants to have sex. She declines but he has sex with her against her will. She is a rape victim. The reason everyone's talking about drunk people is because according to feminists the fact that you consent to sex …
/r/MensRights21/05/12 12:17 AM
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I refer you to my previous source for some of the privileges women enjoyed, and add unilateral rape laws and (I hate to sound reptitive, but) freedom from enslavement through conscription/impressment. And as I said before, I don't believe this was actively sought. Please give examples where they sought to reduce the responsibilities they had. By the Married Women's Property Acts a woman has complete control over all property acquired or inherited by her in any way, free from any claim on the par…
/r/MensRights19/05/12 10:51 PM
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Which is precisely why there are no men who OD on steroids or anything like that! /s
/r/MensRights19/05/12 12:21 AM
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First-wave was just seeking the same legal freedoms that men had, More legal freedoms than men, not the same. And less legal responsibility. and as I said before, I don't think that things like conscription were even on their minds. Seeing as conscription was a prerequisite for male suffrage in my country, i.e. universal male suffrage was only made possible with the introduction of mandatory military service for all men (as opposed to some randomly chosen men prior to 1901), and a man could only…
/r/MensRights18/05/12 08:50 PM
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In the beginning, it was not focused on reducing responsibilities. If I were a woman back then, I'm pretty sure I'd expect more responsibilities to come my way with my freedom. Women are not under discussion here, feminism is. Feminism doesn't represent women any more than SD (Sverigedemokraterna Sweden Democrats, a xenophobic political party in Sweden) represents ethnical Swedes. So what women expected has no bearing on what feminism advocated for. And that's exactly what feminists did/do, they…
/r/MensRights17/05/12 04:45 PM
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I don't think that those actions made them superior. How is a female voter superior to a male voter? Women having more rights and less mandated repsonsibilities/duties/obligations than men is what makes them superior in rights to men. Not the fact that both could vote... For instance, men and women both had the right to vote, but women were exempt from conscription (the reason men had the vote in the first place in my country). Who are disadvantaged? Men, quite clearly. But did these "equality"-…
/r/MensRights17/05/12 04:13 PM
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You don't honestly believe that in the beginning, when women were fighting for the rights to vote and own property, thereby making them equal to men Women voted in my country before feminism, and owned property. However, these actions didn't make them equal to men, it made them superior. As they only addressed female shortcomings and advanced female privileges. Did feminists fight to end conscription, fight for equal custody laws, or to make gender neutral laws? No, they only advocated for femal…
/r/MensRights15/05/12 07:25 PM
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Because that's what feminism was originally about Any proof for this? In what ways did the early feminist movement lobby for men gaining equal rights or against female privileges? Feminism has never ever been about equality, it's been about expanding female privileges while reducing male privileges. Sure, they claimed they were for equality, but so do the ones of today and we all know that that's not true...
/r/MensRights15/05/12 06:46 PM
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Upvoted for Tintin reference!
/r/MensRights15/05/12 12:25 AM
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She mentions the Governor of Wisconsin overturning the equal pay law, but she forgets to mention the reason: there is no wage gap attributable to discrimination, so the law was/is completely unnecessary.
/r/MensRights15/05/12 12:03 AM
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Apexuality.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 09:51 PM
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Right, I live in a country where we have universal healthcare, so I am not sure about this, but: Isn't the health insurance you pay based on what services are included in the insurance?
/r/MensRights14/05/12 07:23 PM
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Eloquently put, also correctly put.
/r/MensRights14/05/12 07:16 PM
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First off, the MRM is not the male counterpart of feminism, we are not an ideology, whereas they are. I don't believe feminism has ever been needed, instead an egalitarian movement should have been established. The only way you can reach the conclusion that feminism was ever needed is by having a gynocentric worldview. Feminism has never been about equality, it was always a female advocacy victim-ideology. This can easily be deduced by quite simply observing how they never addressed female privi…
/r/MensRights13/05/12 11:51 PM
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It's a feminist subreddit, what did you expect? It's like going to a Christian sub and be surprised that they believe in God... These people are feminists, you cannot seriously be surprised when they turn out to be sexist bigots. It's just who they are.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 12:14 AM
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Just a reminder, folks! Feminism is actually about equality, we know this because they tell us over and over again. Naturally, this means that we shouldn't look at their theories and/or (God forbid!) actions, and from our observations deduce that it's really not about equality at all.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 08:52 PM
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Rape lite being something that is rapey behaviour but not actually rape. What's rapey but not rape? What if they didn't intend to get as drunk as they did? People generally don't want to vomit and pass out, they just don't watch their drinks. They are responsible for what they drink. If they drink too much, they are still responsible if they decide to rob someone. The issue I have is that they aren't making those decisions. If they're initiating sex, then I think it's scummy to have sex with the…
/r/MensRights08/05/12 11:00 PM
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I think you missed part of eberkimer's reply: But consent doesn't have to be verbal. As in, you're at a party, and you start flirting with someone. You start kissing and one thing leads to another --> sex. No-one's said 'yes', and no-one's said 'no'. Not to mention, that I don't see the how your first comment was relevant at all. The quote doesn't say anything about saying 'yes or 'no', it says that if someone's too drunk to consent. As in a woman consenting but being too drunk for it to count (…
/r/MensRights08/05/12 10:34 PM
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The whole 'by telling jokes about rape, you make rapists think it's ok to rape, and you make rape victims relive their ordeal'-crap is really tiresome. Have they got any proof for the assertion that joking about a crime increases its likelihood of happening, or that the people committing it were led to believe that their crime would be condoned as a result of people telling jokes? And why does this not extend to other crimes? Why do these people take exception to rape? Why not ban jokes on crime…
/r/MensRights08/05/12 10:25 PM
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Actually, I was giving an example of where you claim did not hold true. It's not a strawman, I wasn't implying that's what you were meaning to refer to, I was using an analogy to show your claim is false. Even in this post you said "Because I, being a sane human being, understand that consensual sex is not rape." - from this sentence, if a 10 year old "consented" to sex with you, it would not be rape (and also if it were coerced or whatever). Since you presumably do believe it's rape, it means t…
/r/MensRights08/05/12 08:21 PM
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Can you tell me why you feel you know more about the topic than them? What makes you an expert and them ignorant? And go take it up with them anyway. Because I, being a sane human being, understand that consensual sex is not rape. You were the one who brought it up here and defended the position, I don't participate in discussions on their subreddits. Right, so if an 8 year old "consents" to sex you're perfectly fine with banging her? Strawman. You're equating paedophilia with lying to a potenti…
/r/MensRights07/05/12 10:46 PM
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By the definition of the people who talk about rape culture, it is. Then they are idiots. My rape lite examples and being forced aren't the only possibilities for sex. If it's made explicitly clear by one party they don't want to have sex but don't struggle, then legally they were raped. And I never said that those were the only two possibilities, those just happened to be the two examples I used... Just that the 'rapes' (consensual sex) that rape-culture-advocates talk about isn't rape as both …
/r/MensRights07/05/12 07:46 PM
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I'm arguing against what people here usually say to dismiss it. If people here usually dismiss it by saying society doesn't condone the rapes of women, then they're absolutely right. Your rape lite example is not rape and therefore society condoning it is not indicative of a rape-culture. An actual example of rape-culture would be prison settings, where rape is considered a way of keeping inmates in check, or cases of female-on-male rape where most of society thinks he should just "man up" and t…
/r/MensRights07/05/12 12:41 AM
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Actually, rape lite is not my term, it was in the OP.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 10:39 PM
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First off, that is your definition of rape-culture, I've heard several others. Second, what Barney does in HIMYM is not rape. Anyone who thinks that is delusional. Granted, I have not seen all episodes, so if he's actually committed rape in one of them, my apologies. Third, rape is not illegal because it can have a disastrous effect on people's feelings, it's illegal because it violates their rights. Fourth, you're being very gynocentric. Rapes against men are socially accepted (and oftentimes l…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 10:09 PM
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Right, so everything bad in society is caused by men. Not society in general, or anything like that, but men. I see, you don't happen to be a feminist, do you? Reading your post sure makes it look like that, either that or a feminism-sympathiser. Can you please provide some proof for your assertion that feminism is fundamentally "working towards an egalitarian future", without appealing to dictionary? Also, in case you didn't know. Many of us do in fact hate feminism, I find it difficult not to.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:58 PM
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But as soon as it's rape, the crime that they believe only happens to women, now all the sudden it's men's responsibility to make the world safe for them rather than them taking care of their goddamn selves. Precisely, I believe this is because with crimes that society believes happens only to women, it becomes "special". The same applies to domestic violence. It's no longer just a crime, it's a "special crime" and it's a sign of oppression. Seriously, the amount of feminists using women being v…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:46 PM
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Serious question: Can you read? I said that you thought it wasn't (as opposed to, you know, was) OK to call me a bellend. But you thought it was OK to call me an 'asshole', seeing as you did. My question was why is one OK and the other not? Because one refers to genitals whereas the other is just an orifice from which we excrete faeces? Why is one of those 'offensive' while the other is not? And that ties in pretty well with my main question: Why shouldn't we be allowed to say something because …
/r/MensRights06/05/12 07:28 PM
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I see you don't have any reasonable argument, so you resort to personal attacks. I'll repeat my question: Why shouldn't we be allowed to say something because it might offend someone? What makes you think it's OK to call me an 'asshole' when you think it's not OK to call me a bellend?
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:52 PM
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Question: "and includes instances in which the victim is incapable of giving consent because of temporary or pemanent mental or physical incapacity" What does this entail? For instance, I've seen it argued that since women are typically smaller and weaker than men, they are unable to consent (the reasoning being that if they were to withdraw consent, the man could overpower them, so they're 'afraid' to not consent). If so, can a paraplegic consent? How about an amputee? These are after all perma…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:45 PM
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This was also my interpretation when I read, but seeing as English is a learned language for me I wasn't sure if I had interpreted it correctly.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:41 PM
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Right, they are used in Britain for instance. Does Ron Paul say knob or what do you mean by "ron paul thing"?
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:29 PM
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Why? It's a matter of principles. Why shouldn't we be allowed to say something because it might offend someone? I was offended by your hiposcrisy, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be allowed to be a hypocrite.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 06:24 PM
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First off, welcome. If you support men getting equal rights and equal protection, you are essentially part of the MRM. If you wish, you can try to find organisations or groups in your area that advocate for men's rights and contact them. Another way is to quite simply read up on the issues, educate yourselves on men's plights and talk about it (not incessantly, of course, but when relevant), open people's eyes up to the discrimination and inequalities men face in society and change minds. No, we…
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:56 PM
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Why should I show respect people who are offended by something so trivial as words denoting genital organs? Following your reasoning, calling someone an 'asshole' is hateful against everyone who has an arsehole, so you're offending everybody.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:31 PM
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Are you perchance American?
/r/MensRights06/05/12 05:26 PM
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"I wish people would stop using that statistic. That might be true, but women attempt suicide at three times the rate men do. Men are just more likely to use guns." Yet, in Sweden, we still have approximately three male suicide for every female suicide and we don't have free access to guns (the most common method of suicide in Sweden is poisoning). We also have a higher suicide rate than the US. So clearly, gun culture doesn't affect the number of suicides. If those men hadn't had access to guns…
/r/MensRights05/05/12 10:49 PM
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I don't... So I am free to use either of those as liberally as I please.
/r/MensRights05/05/12 10:32 PM
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Then, by your logic, calling someone a dick, cock, bellend, knobhead, knobend, knob, etc... is hateful against men?
/r/MensRights05/05/12 10:18 PM
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I figured it would be obvious. I think you are overestimating the intelligence of some people. Case in point, there are people in this world who believe that calling someone a cunt is misogyny.
/r/MensRights05/05/12 06:35 PM
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Yeah. I expected to come here and see comments about this being a clever way for her to try to achieve equal rights. [emphasis mine] What are you on about? What rights does she not have that men have? None. She has legal privileges and advantages and she's defending them by playing on the underlying misandry of society. That makes her a cunt, an arsehole, a dick and a sexist bigot.
/r/MensRights05/05/12 06:32 PM
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Why do people think it's misogyny to call people a cunt? Is it misandric to call people a dick, a cock, a knobend, a bellend or any other insult using a word linked to the male reproductive organ? Her defending her unequal rights (i.e. reproductive rights; a female legal privilege) by promoting another of her unequal rights (i.e. right to genital integrity; another female legal privilege) makes her a cunt, it also makes her a sexist moron and imbecile.
/r/MensRights05/05/12 06:23 PM
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And do you know what? 93% of male rape victims were raped by a man. Compared to the 98% of female rape victims being raped by men. That statistic only holds water if you are willing to disregard the majority of male victims, those who are raped by envelopment instead of penetration. See here. To not count these men is of course standard (they did it in that survey for instance), and serves to skew rape statistics. Statistically, in the U.S, rapists are more likely to be male There is no way for …
/r/MensRights04/05/12 12:39 AM
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A good article on the issue.
/r/MensRights03/05/12 07:42 PM
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Let's see, I'm an antifeminist and a Men's Rights Advocate. So, yes, you can. I can't shake the feeling we are the same army fighting different fronts The MRM is not the 'male equivalent' of feminism, I would assume masculism is, although you might have to ask some masculists about that. The MRM is quite simply a political movement for people who advocate that men get equal rights and equal protection and that women get equal responsibilities and punishment, under the law. Feminism is an ideolog…
/r/MensRights02/05/12 11:46 PM
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And now, in the name of equality, women's/gender studies students will post fliers with the names of random women attending that college around campus under the headline 'Notice: These Women are Potential Rapists'. Because you know, feminism is about equality... Or so they say.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 01:13 AM
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Mandatory paternity testing at birth for all paternity claims. Do you think it's acceptable to give a woman who has given birth to a child a different child to raise? Or how about bestowing the responsibilities of raising a child on any random woman, regardless of whether or not she is in fact a parent? Just summon her to court, and force her to take care of the child (financially or physically)?
/r/MensRights01/05/12 05:44 PM
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All of a sudden, anarchy seems more appealing.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 01:43 AM
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Argumentative atheists are off? And advocating equal rights for men means you're off? I see, I'm a bit off, then.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 09:28 PM
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Oh, my...
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:09 AM
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Plus, the violence is probably no longer "hidden" behind the closed doors (i.e. confined to the home with the husband and children being the chief victims). Good point, for some reason I had not thought of that... As women as a whole spend more time in the public sphere, so does the violence-prone portion of women.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:08 AM
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Oh, sweet-talk :) You're making me blush! ;D Consider it awkward
/r/MensRights30/04/12 12:01 AM
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;)
/r/MensRights29/04/12 09:02 PM
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That was hyperbolic extrapolation, yes and perhaps a bit over-the-top. But it is also a completely logical result from conflating women with feminists. I can definitely see how the use of hyperbole (especially when used in such an antagonistic way as I probably came across) can be damaging to a discussion, and for that I apologise. If you feel I was unfair to you or offended you I am sorry. It's just that, as I stated earlier, this happens to be one of my pet peeves. Extends cyber-hand as a sign…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:36 PM
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Her choice, her responsibility. Simple as that.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:26 PM
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As I said, I am fine with you thinking that, I just ignore the posts I don't think matter as much, although I definitely see why they belong here (exposing misandry is a valid topic on here, even though my main focus is legal equality). But that is not what you did, as I've already explained. You changed the matter at hand (feminists being x and y) to a different subject (women), within the same two-sentence-comment without making a distinction between the two subjects. If you meant the second s…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 08:20 PM
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Are they really? Or is it the case that more people are acknowledging its existance and don't pretend it doesn't exist?
/r/MensRights29/04/12 07:56 PM
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As for the comment, my bad. It is indeed there, I wrongly assumed that you mean as a response to either me or Dingofthesouth (as in further down the comment tree). But, you still don't "disprove" my point. PartTimeBadman (that's you!) said: Unfortunately, it pretty much is. I've said it a fair few times before, but r/mensrights is r/letsshakeourfistatwomentogether really. [emphasis mine] as a response to Dingofthesouth's comment regarding the dislike for and (perhaps) unfair generalisation of fe…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 07:50 PM
4

I am looking at the comments, and nowhere did you disavow the viewpoint you expressed. Unless there's some sort of "lag" on reddit, you have not made any comments after the one I commented on. I then replied by saying that r/mensrights is more about whining about the bad things that women do than discussing the rights of men. You brought that up, all by yourself when discussing the dislike for feminism. You want to keep proving my point? He brought up whether or not this is the standard on r/men…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 01:19 PM
1

Good luck!
/r/MensRights29/04/12 12:19 PM
8

Let's just give out random children to women who give birth. It doesn't matter if the child's hers or not. If it isn't, she should just "man up" and deal with it! EQUALITY!!!
/r/MensRights29/04/12 12:18 PM
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Feminists are women who believe they are superior to men and that men should be punished for simply being male. This is demonstrably false in every facet. I know you're right about this, even if the rest of r/mensrights doesn't, friend. I would hope this isn't the dominant discourse on MensRights. Unfortunately, it pretty much is. I've said it a fair few times before, but r/mensrights is r/letsshakeourfistatwomentogether really. There are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions. That's ho…
/r/MensRights29/04/12 12:13 PM
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TIL, there are people who think that the sexual demographic of women and the ideological demographic of feminists are the same... Gosh darnit, so according to you, me being antifeminist means that I am anti-woman? So you agree with Louise Brealey?
/r/MensRights29/04/12 11:57 AM
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Not to mention incarceration rates, rape rates, murder rates, violent assault rates, have-your-children-stolen rates, etc... Women really are discriminated against, didn't you know!
/r/MensRights29/04/12 11:53 AM
1

Common-law marriage? Samboförhållanden?
/r/MensRights29/04/12 01:29 AM
1

At least we don't have alimony... except for in fringe cases.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 01:29 AM
1

Vilka två andra kvinnor som varit med om vilka skildrade händelser? Det är rätt så oklart vad som menas. Två av kvinnorna som kidnappade flickan och tog henne till Norge? Eller två kvinnor som blivit offrade av en satanistisk sekt? Eller något annat? Och jävanmälan verkar ju inte alls vara... jävig... Ska Granskningsnämnden sitta med medlemmr ur SD och anmäla program för jäv när man rapporterar om rasism och islamofobi inom partiet? P.S. Google Translate är inget vidare.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 01:26 AM
1

It's not a very active subreddit, so I can't answer that, I'm afraid. I don't think so though. I just learned that Archangelle* has become one of the mods, so it might be appropriated by the Fempire.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 10:17 PM
3

When did she become a mod? I might have to unsubscribe.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 09:10 PM
1

I laughed, I really did ;)
/r/MensRights26/04/12 08:08 PM
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Strange indeed, I thought she was a scientologist? Anyway, good news that they won't be mutilating their son.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 08:01 PM
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There's a /r/womensrights sub for those of us who support women's rights without accepting the bigotted doctrine of a sexist religion, aka feminism. Edit: It turns out, it is a feminist subreddit after all. One of the mods being ArchangelleDworkin, the other posting this submission to the subreddit. I've unsubscribed.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 07:31 PM
4

I'm a crime victim, apparently. I've had snowballs thrown at me, for instance. Is causing offence a crime? If so, I can see how interrupting a news report is a crime. And why would it be any different if it was done to offend me or if it was, say, done for a laugh?
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:45 AM
1

Is this a crime? After all, objects were thrown on the reporter and he was interrupted. I'd regard it as a crime if he had hurt the reporter, or even if there were any possibility whatsoever to cause injury on the reporter? Likewise, I don't consider it a crime if someone takes a book (or even wallet) from my hands and then gives it back to me seconds later.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:24 AM
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A person wanted to be on TV for their short period of fame (less than 15 minutes) and did so by interrupting a news reporter reporting on some news and taking the microphone our of their hands to say something. Probably so that said person could later brag about it to friends. I fail to see how it is a crime. An idiotic and moronic manoeuvre, yes, criminal intent, no. I guess that when someone taps me on my shoulder I should have them arrested for assault, since they touched me deliberately, unn…
/r/MensRights26/04/12 02:01 AM
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You got trolled by some disgruntled feminist who is angry about the MRM growing.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 11:53 PM
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What do you mean this isn't assault?! A man touched a woman! Of course it's assault. /s
/r/MensRights25/04/12 11:42 PM
1

Spearhead? Is that a MRM-site? I always thought of it as a traditionalist one...
/r/MensRights24/04/12 10:51 PM
7

So, same old same old. Women are to be helped, men are to be punished.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 11:52 PM
0

Precisely, although I'm not so sure about the clitoris part. I'd classify removal of the whole or part of head of the clitoris as glandectomy/cliteridectomy and not circumcision, but maybe that's just me. I consider female infibulation the second most severe form of genital cutting, second only to MGM type III, but not a form of circumcision.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 07:42 PM
3

I might be a bit pedantic, but is infibulation (sewing up the vagina) really circumcision? I mean, medically speaking?
/r/MensRights23/04/12 07:07 PM
1

Doesn't sound like my cup of tea then.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 12:59 AM
2

Masculism? What does this ideology entail? I've heard (and read) it before, but I've never received an explanation of what it actually is... Is it like reverse feminism? Or is it egalitarian? Or an extension of feminism?
/r/MensRights22/04/12 11:05 PM
1

I'd make the claim that the left is more overtly misandric, definitely. But the right is more covertly misandric.
/r/MensRights22/04/12 02:18 PM
1

Seems like good news!
/r/MensRights19/04/12 08:24 PM
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She must suffer from some sort of personality disorder... Normal people don't do this kind of things.
/r/MensRights19/04/12 01:00 AM
1

I liked it.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:08 PM
3

An incredibly annoying phenomenon. The worst part is not knowing if they just don't understand the difference or if they purposely conflate the two.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 07:55 PM
3

Well said. Also, we should take notice of her attempt to misconstrue the title to mean hating women instead of women's hatred and her equally vile attempt to conflate women and feminists, when describing the comment section. Either her reading comprehension is really bad or she actively lies to "entertain" her readers.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 01:30 AM
2

As a caveat, I disagree with the 'war on terror', Afghanistan and Iraq were massacres (pre-emptive strikes against innocent people, the terror attacks on 9-11 did not justify any of the wars). Soldiers fighting in these wars did not do so to preserve your 'freedom', what do you think the terrorists could actually accomplish? They posed no threat to your "future". Another terror attack has been carried out on American soil, so now the government has decided to outlaw abortion. Unlikely... You dec…
/r/MensRights17/04/12 01:05 AM
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Can't say I share your sentiments, no. I do believe someone's trolling.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 10:08 PM
2

Because Pay-tree-are-key?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:19 PM
2

This Ally Fogg character seems to be fairly opposed to misandry, I've read several of articles written by him where he takes issue with the misandric mindsets that are so pervasive in society.
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:17 PM
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She didn't get pregnant, he got her pregnant. Women don't make their own choices, didn't you know?
/r/MensRights16/04/12 08:15 PM
1

Thanks for proving the point, even though this clearly was not your intention. When there is time for and effort put into upholding societal norms and customs, women are rescued to the detriment of men, because a man's place is to serve women. When there's no effort or time to uphold these societal norms, and it really is 'every man for himself', men survive at higher rates due to nature.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 06:59 PM
1

Women were not legally at a disadvantage. The fact that we're a capitalist society doesn't change the fact that women leaving the workforce was a choice, not something that was forced on them. No laws stated a woman couldn't work, it was however highly impractical, so in the late 19th century it became the norm that women stayed at home and men went out to work. No legal disadvantage, quite to the contrary. As for money: "As a successful lady litigant (May, 1896) remarked to her husband, "There …
/r/MensRights15/04/12 05:21 PM
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I also believe that men were limited but had more options. That's also a fact. [emphasis mine] Beliefs are not facts, sorry. Men's options: Work 'til you drop. Women leaving the workforce was a conscious choice that arose from the ability of society to allow women to do so after industrialisation: The desire to free oneself from work was common to all classes and both sexes. Dr Joanna Bourke of Birkbeck College, London, has studied the diaries of 5,000 women who lived between 1860 and 1930. Duri…
/r/MensRights15/04/12 03:53 AM
2

As ManWomanMyth said: Undoubtedly, women were fantastic on the home front during the war, but men were simply moreso.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 01:03 AM
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No, because that would be victim-blaming! You're insinuating that their situation is their fault and that they deserve it. That is, if the cancer patient or unemployed person is female of course. What are you? Some kind of misogynist!? /s
/r/MensRights15/04/12 12:51 AM
0

Another one of these? Where are you people when it comes to this stuff?
/r/MensRights14/04/12 08:09 PM
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Now, where are all the 'good' feminists who say we just don't understand what feminism is, it's about equality not the misandric bigotry you guys are trying to make it out to be and call these 'fake' feminists out for their sexism? There's like one post a day from these 'good' feminists, but whenever the sexism of feminism rears its ugly head this way, they're nowhere to be found... strange how that works.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 02:07 AM
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Simple, because women having equal rights to men, doesn't mean that men have equal rights to women. As it stands, women have more rights and less responsibilities than men. This is feminism, not equality.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 08:09 PM
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I love how she has no clue about anything. Does she lack all sense of logic? We're apparently a hate group - her source for this being the SPLC, even though they never stated we were. She calls Warren Farrell, of all people, a misogynist for being a "masculinist" who dares to mention that some women can try to impregnate themselves against their partner's will. How dare he suggest such a thing? What an evil woman-hater! She claims that this "lie" (that some women have lied, and can lie, about be…
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:46 AM
1

Left wing - Right wing... Who cares? Same misandry, different reasons.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:26 AM
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Nothing strange about women posting here. Women can and do contribute and partake in discussions, and be subscribers. I've gotten called a lady chauvinist quite a few times by other women This would imply that you believe women are superior which probably sin't what they meant. Chauvinism is in essence the glorification of the own group, often to the detriment of others. A male chauvinist is a man who thinks men are superior to women. A female chauvinist is a woman who thinks women are superior …
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:11 AM
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Just as many men find this kind of things hilarious. It just so happened that the ones making the comments were female. Furthermore, this is not a reason to hate an entire group. I dislike the individuals' reactions, but I don't hate them or anyone else pertaining to their collective group.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 12:43 AM
1

MP or MSP?
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:43 PM
3

He'd just pay the female staff higher wages, after all, women can do it better and do it heels!
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:58 PM
2

This means that you will refrain from ever again calling me a feminist for supporting egalitarianism? Because that's offensive. extends hand
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:48 PM
1

Indeed. Our real enemy is gynocentrism and misandry; feminism being ideological gynocentrism, it is an enemy. But there's also social gynocentrism (without which feminism never could have arisen) which is just as important that we tackle.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:43 PM
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Wow, they sure were thorough! /s One could easily mistake them for gender studies students.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:34 PM
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or Men tend to understate the pain they are in I know I've done that.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 10:45 PM
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I am antifeminist. You can help men get equal rights, women get equal responsibilities, men get equal protection and women equal punishment under the law, fight misandry and gynocentrism, and I'll be fine with that. As long as you don't try to shove your beliefs down my throat, I will be more than tolerant of your religion. Thank you in advance.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 08:02 PM
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Ehm, men can stop rape by not raping? But, apparently, women can't stop rape by not raping... Weird how that works.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 07:54 PM
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First off, you didn't show a gender bias against women by your former boss. He may have just disliked you. Second, you took a pay cut because your seniority didn't count at the new branch. Had nothing to do with you being a woman. You have failed to demonstrate any sort of gender discrimination, just circumstances leading to you having to get "a new job" with different pay.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 07:49 PM
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It is a real life story about the wage gap being enforced. I had the most seniority at my store, so I got my pick of the deliveries, and made the most money. I wouldn't seem as though it were. Editted for clarity.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 12:27 AM
1

I believe so, at least according to the results of a survey I saw. LDS? I'm not sure what that means.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 12:14 AM
1

I can't relate to that. Having my agency taken away by a false victimhood is nothing I have ever encountered, but I think I'd find it insulting.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 11:38 PM
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Don't be ashamed to be female. Your biological sex is nothing to be ashamed of. The actions of others sharing that same sex are not transferred to you, and societal preferential treatment of members of your sex doesn't make you as an individual woman culpable for any of the suffering this societal treatment might cause others. Besides, I am fairly sure most SRSers are male...
/r/MensRights10/04/12 11:14 PM
2

Unfriend, bigots never make good friends.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 08:39 PM
2

There was an AMA about a Swedish boy (now man) who had been raped while drunk by the girl doing just that, some time ago.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 08:23 PM
1

Rape culture, "Patriarchy Theory", unilateral female oppression, male dominance, gender as a social construct, etc...
/r/MensRights10/04/12 08:11 PM
1

To require employers to pay equal wages to women would be a violation of men's rights. Equal wages for the same job is not a violation of men's rights. It's the feminist narrative we oppose: the "wage gap" lie.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 08:06 PM
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I am curious, unless you were given the job in order to fill some quota (which doesn't seem to be the case), how is this related to men's rights?
/r/MensRights10/04/12 12:36 AM
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Yes, but are the female judges harsher on females than they are on males? Or are they harsher on males or equally harsh?
/r/MensRights09/04/12 11:18 PM
2

Affirmative Action Quotas An educational system geared to female behaviour Discrimination in their favour with respect to grading Favourable treatment at every societal and legal level Mostly legally exempt from crimes such as rape and Domestic Violence Special protection under the law Lesser punishments under the law Greater amount of options regarding work Gynocentrism Health spending The draft Rights to bodily integrity Reproductive rights Family law Sympathy and compassion Chivalry Matrimony…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 11:13 PM
7

Join us next week when we will discuss the existance of God. Our expert on the matter will be the Pope.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 11:02 PM
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NiceGuysSTFU is a troll of sorts him/herself. So I shouldn't worry to much about that.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 10:53 PM
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I am going to go with feminists. With which I am, much to my surprise, fine. For the same reason I 'tolerate' Christians and people of other religions, as long as they don't shove their beliefs down my throat I am perfectly OK with them supporting the same goals I do. I will however debate them on their beliefs when necessary.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 10:52 PM
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HBO - Love crimes of Kabul (women prisoners in Afganistan, including imo a blatent false allegation of rape). An excellent documentary, what I found most striking was how the filmmaker tried to make it out to be about women's oppression when there was a man imprisoned with the woman in every case they brought up. It also showed that marriage laws are skewed not in favour of men but women in Afghan culture with the man's family having to pay the woman's family for her to marry their son and the m…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 10:45 PM
1

Ok, thank you for your answers. It's been nice talking to you, however briefly.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 08:52 PM
1

The whole head seems more analogous to the removal of the penis head. So you would consider it analogous to MGM type II? Also known as a glandectomy.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 08:41 PM
2

Det har du sannerligen rätt i.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 05:10 PM
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What is? Hen? In Swedish he is han, and she is hon. Hen is supposed to be implemented from Finnish to create a gender-neutral pronoun.The problem of course being that we already have two of those: Den and det (Neuter and common grammatical gender).
/r/MensRights09/04/12 05:10 PM
2

Jag är. De flesta jag talat med tycker att det är en löjlig idé att införa hen. Det är väl egentligen bara 'genuseliten' som är uppspelta för det.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 05:05 PM
1

I agree.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:58 PM
2

Yes, all of the existing parties have their weaknesses. I'm not saying they don't have strengths as well. But the idea of swearing allegiance to one party and changing my views to appease their positions irks me.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:58 PM
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When I was a boy I'd sometimes play with my one year older sister when she played with her Barbies. Although I preferred toy cars, lego and whatnot I remember enjoying it, my favourite colour as a child was pink (the first bicycle helmet which I got to choose was pink). So, of course, personality is more important than gender when it comes to what we like doing as children. However, how anyone (like these "gender experts") can look at boys and girls and say that they are the same and that we mus…
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:54 PM
1

We elect the parties. I don't know if it's better to vote for a person or a party. All I know is I don't like any of the established political parties in existance.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:49 PM
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These are the same people who think that "free play" (that is children playing the games they prefer; usually girls play with dolls and boys with cars) is counter-productive to "equality". They are quite literally an elite who wish to impose their views on the rest of us as well. And with our feminist governments (they all have been) there is no-one in a position of power who will stand up to them.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:36 PM
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You apparently aren't a Swede, people don't vote on issues here; the politicians do. We elect the politicians and they pass legislation. The people doesn't get much say in these matters unless it's to do with entering the EU or the EMU.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:33 PM
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What I've wondered for some time is: Do they actually remove the entire clitoris? Or "just" part of/the whole head? I would imagine it is part of the head that is excised and not the entire organ. But I am not sure, perhaps you could help me shed some light on this? Edit: Changed the link to the one provided by image-fixer.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:24 PM
2

No. Why?
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:48 AM
2

Privilege priv·i·lege n. 1. a. A special advantage, immunity, permission, right, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by an individual, class, or caste. 1. b. Such an advantage, immunity, or right held as a prerogative of status or rank, and exercised to the exclusion or detriment of others.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:43 AM
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It depends on the issue. Bob Geldof made a documentary on Fathers' Rights, and the BBC made a non-misandric documentary on the history of fatherhood during the 20th century. If you want a broad, not extremely in-depth documentary on most of the issues discussed here, ManWomanMyth is a good start.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:35 AM
1

As long as men don't have reproductive rights, why should I? From an egalitarian perspective? Should I defend this privilege?
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:30 AM
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I am egalitarian if I believe in equal rights, equal responsibilities, equal protection and equal punishment under the law.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 01:17 AM
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Plenty of misandric men. Joe Biden, Michael Kimmel, Thomas Bodström, Claes Borgström, etc... I think there was a survey taken over at SRS which showed that they were ~80% male.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 11:46 PM
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I don't see why not. Here's one and here's another one.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 11:17 PM
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You can't be a feminist and a skeptic. One requires you to adhere to dogmatic doctrine without questioning it and the other means the exact opposite.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 10:44 PM
1

Fine, I shall then assume you can't tell the difference between the sexual demographic women and the ideological demographic feminists.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 09:11 PM
3

TwoX are feminists?!
/r/MensRights08/04/12 09:05 PM
3

I wonder if this poster changed his/her mind when s/he understood that it was a gender reversal.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:59 PM
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SRS is a primarily male subreddit, I fail to see how TwoX and SRS, or TwoX and any other feminist subreddit are connected.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:55 PM
2

I will care about women's reproductive rights the day men get some reproductive rights. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. I am pro-choice, but I am also egalitarian.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 07:42 PM
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TwoX is a feminist subreddit? I thought it was a female subreddit. Either you conflated women and feminists or I've been mistaken all this time.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 07:27 PM
0

So, your original question was directed at me? I feel honoured, you knew I existed without us ever having a conversation before this. Keep on making inane comments without addressing a single point. How about you answer my question which was actually directed at you?
/r/MensRights08/04/12 01:18 AM
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Fine, claim ignorance and fail to answer the question. I am insane for differentiating between feminists and women and asking you to do so as well, okay. The comment to which you attached your completely inane question: uh are you seriously saying that women ostracize gay sex, can you please explain never mentioned women at all. Then you either conflated woman with feminist or changed your mind when someone answered your question, making a similarly inane remark: the only thing "they" can be ref…
/r/MensRights08/04/12 12:41 AM
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Well said.
/r/MensRights08/04/12 12:07 AM
0

Pedantic? The KKK and white people are the same, if you say they're not, you're just being pedantic. All I did was ask you to stop conflating women with feminists, there are quite a few who would take offence at that, and it is factually incorrect. You were wrong, as you yourself said. I'd like to add one more option to my previous list: You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 11:56 PM
0

As I stated, feminists and women are two different demographics. Which one was it?
/r/MensRights07/04/12 11:49 PM
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Hey. Stop giving them ideas. They've already got gay male sex criminalized and ostracized in other ways. uh are you seriously saying that women ostracize gay sex, can you please explain No, he's saying society in general does. the only thing "they" can be referring to is "feminist bullshit" Context tells me that you either: Conflate women with feminists. Or Don't understand the meaning of the word only. Or Changed your mind regarding what "they" could and could not refer to.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 10:49 PM
2

So first "they" referred to women, now it can only refer to "feminist bullshit". Make up your mind, or stop conflating women with feminists. They are two different demographics.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 10:38 PM
4

I've never heard of feminists being against gay rights Ask and it shall be given.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 10:36 PM
1

Leave absolutes somewhere that you can never find them again, they are almost always dead wrong. [emphasis mine] I see what you did there. :)
/r/MensRights07/04/12 10:21 PM
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This is illegal in my country. It is considered a form of "violence against women". Of course, I happen to live in Sweden, so...
/r/MensRights07/04/12 07:50 PM
0

Me thinks s/he's deliberately misconstruing what was said, trying to fit his/her own agenda.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 07:45 PM
1

Is English your mother tongue? Judging from your spelling I'd say you're American or possibly Canadian, so I'm guessing yes. 'Like' can in this instance be replaced with 'such as', if that would facilitate your comprehension of what is being said. I don't like pineapple, but when it comes to food I have other more immediate problems. Like being allergic to nuts. I don't like pineapple, but when it comes to food I have other more immediate problems than being allergic to nuts. Anyway, the author …
/r/MensRights07/04/12 07:44 PM
5

Preventing miscarriages of justice should be the main goal for any interest group of legislative occurrances. COTWA/FRS has yet again shown an interest in achieving this goal. Very well done.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 05:50 PM
1

While feminism is ideological gynocentrism, there is also social gynocentrism, advocated by the traditional and feminist sections. Social gynocentrism dictates that we first and foremost, or sometimes uniquely, consider women's experiences (whether perceived/imagined or real). This might be of some interest to you as well.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 05:46 PM
3

What if this female is pregnant? Is it commonplace to refer to your girlfriend as "this female" wherever you're from? I'm smelling troll.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 11:07 PM
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Wow, Jezebel and Feministing articles usually infuriate me due to their bigotry, but you always know the comments will make your blood boil. The sexist bigotry of feminists never amaze me, after all their ideology is sexist bigotry. Always expect scum to act like... scum.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 10:35 PM
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i hear that, but these things are rarely reported on, rarely taken seriously by the public, and this goes without saying - unfairly represented in the justice system. I agree, you won't hear any objections from me. and of course, being a level headed female i get lumped in with pseudo-gender rights "activists" such a feminists who LOL at this kind of crap in the news instead of decrying it. Yes, collectivist thinking is the bane of tolerance, acceptance and equality/equity. if some dude mangled …
/r/MensRights06/04/12 10:21 PM
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Please don't! Never apologise for the actions or comments of others, they are not you and you are not them.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 07:01 PM
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So, he'll be going back to prison fairly soon for failing to pay the court ordered child support payments?
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:46 PM
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We advocate legal equality (rights; obligations/duties/reponsibilities; protection; punishment). Violence perpetrated against women already is, and always has been, abhorred, whereas violence perpetrated against men is almost universally accepted by most of society. The same goes for rape, against women: horrid; against men: who cares?/great!
/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:41 PM
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/r/MensRights06/04/12 06:33 PM
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Fairly sure he lauds male disposability and has wet dreams about dying saving a frail woman somewhere.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 05:53 PM
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