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The original article from 2018 is here https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/can-we-discuss-gender-issues-rationally-yes-if-we-can-stop-gamma-bias?rq=gamma%20bias At the end, the later book chapter is linked, plus an animation explaining gamma bias.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/03/26 04:22 AM
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Fantastic! A rare glimpse of success, which shows it's worth persevering, even when it looks like nobody wants to know.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 11:03 PM
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That's a great point about boys turning their backs on the woke version of superheroes. However it seems to me the main point of the article is about how the non-woke versions of superheroes are a bridge to much deeper influences - Jungian archetypes - and it's these that boys connect with, not something more ephemeral and external.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 09:04 AM
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Yes, Grok is relatively less feminist, but these views vary (a bit) over time, and when I checked a few weeks ago it still holds some relatively negative ideas about links between masculinity and mental health, not all that dissimilar to the APA guidelines https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/will-ai-chatbots-improve-our-understanding-of-masculinity-and-mental-health-or-just-amplify-the-existing-bias-in-the-literature-a-brief-comparison-of-grok-vs-chatgpt
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 05:18 PM
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Thanks for the tip re Mistral's AI. I asked Grok and ChatGPT "list the top 10 chatbots in order of popularity (of usage) and rate how pro-feminist each is. Include Mistral's AI in the list". Grok listed itself as the least feminist (ok...), rating itself as 1 on a 5 point scale of being feminist. It rated Mistral as 3, and ChatGPT as 4. The second lowest rating was Ernie Bot (Baidu) with 2/5. I asked ChatGPT the same thing. It rated itself 8/10, Grok 3/10 and Mistral 6/10. Ernie Bot (Baidu) wasn…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/25 09:39 AM
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"I am surprised that Elon allows Grok to be affected by this". I agree. I'm shocked that he allows it to continue. He is getting Grokipedia, but will it be any better than Wikipedia, for gender-related content at least?
/r/MensRights13/10/25 08:33 AM
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What ChatGPT says here is interesting, but I think it is just rehashing some of the invalid arguments many of us are familiar with e.g. "men and women both live inside gender scripts written long before them. The goal should be rewriting the script, not declaring one sex the villain of the play." Sounds all too familar.
/r/MensRights13/10/25 08:30 AM
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I agree. The foreword to this article says "Questions like ‘is masculinity the product of biology or culture’ are understandable but redundant, like asking ‘is a car a form of transport or a form of status symbol’." But people are taught these days that the only valid explanation is culture, and many people - professors included - somehow don't seem able to escape from that narrow view.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 10:20 PM
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In the first paragraph there is a link to a research paper on the impact of family breakdown on men's mental health. The introduction to the linked research paper cites other research relating family breakdown to suicide.
/r/MensRights10/09/25 09:36 PM
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This article addresses an important question, and gives some compelling examples of what the problem is. Governments have already agreed to protect the human rights of men and boys, so why do they act as if suppporting human rights for men is asking for too much? Advocating for the human rights of men and boys should be as easy as pushing at an open door, but somehow it is treated as if it's a radical idea. A mind-boggling situation that should not be allowed to continue.
/r/MensRights08/07/25 05:02 AM
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Nathanson & Young identified this as a major issue in 2001, but there is very little research on the harm that media does to men and boys (unless you count the supposed negative impact of violent video games, traditional masculinity etc). My study of 4000 men found that men who have negative views of masculinity (e.g. believe it makes them feel violent to women) had worse mental wellbeing. Where did they get this idea from? Probably many places e.g. media, university, government policies etc. Bu…
/r/MensRights09/02/25 02:23 PM
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Sounds like a very tough time and I'm glad you got through it ok. We ran a campaign last year highlighting how people can help men who are struggling to cope with stressful issues. When you see it you will wish the people around you when you were a teenage had known these things https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/men-wont-clam-up-if-youre-male-friendly-a-brief-guide-to-supporting-mens-mental-health (TLDR you can skip to the infographic by clicking the link …
/r/MensRights30/11/24 03:51 PM
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I agree on both of your first suggestions - the 4 points should be a given, and the focus should be on practical issues. I mention some of these issues in point 1 of the article: "...suicidality was more strongly predicted by four other factors: depression, life events, not being in relationship, and substance use" https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/four-points-that-everyone-concerned-about-mens-mental-health-should-be-aware-of Life events covers issues lik…
/r/MensRights30/11/24 03:06 PM
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True. I alluded to this important issue in point 4 of the article "...relationship problems are a key issue for many men: if a man is suicidal because of his divorce, is now homeless, and only allowed to see his children for a few hours per month, he might feel somewhat misunderstood if you said his problems were caused by patriarchy and masculinity norms". But yes, improving the family court system would significantly improve the overall mental health burden on men.
/r/MensRights30/11/24 01:49 PM
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I agree. Men (or masculinity) are often blamed for not seeking help for prostate cancer early enough, but this is ridiculous when you know that it often doesn't have any symptoms, or there are symptoms but most men don't realise are symptoms of cancer (details here https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/is-masculinity-really-such-an-obstacle-to-men-seeking-help-for-prostate-cancer ). What we need is a screening programme for men, just as women have a screening …
/r/MensRights29/11/24 05:46 PM
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"...prevention inherently requires addressing the causes, which include social biases against men..." Almost everyone seems to miss this point. One of the biggest biases is that men are treated as if their health problems are pretty much their own fault (victim blaming) due to some defect or other in masculinity (points 1 & 2 here https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/four-points-that-everyone-concerned-about-mens-mental-health-should-be-aware-of ).
/r/MensRights29/11/24 05:32 PM
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"Take all the money that would be spent and put it towards running randomized trials..." I fully agree. There is too much hype and too little good evidence (see points 2 & 3 here https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/four-points-that-everyone-concerned-about-mens-mental-health-should-be-aware-of ).
/r/MensRights29/11/24 05:28 PM
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I suspect that if it was a condition that impacted the careers of 8% of girls and 0.5% of boys instead of 8% of boys and 0.5% of girls, the screening process would never have been removed. You can imagine the tsunami of complaints. Also I find it disturbing that the govenment changed the rules about screening school children based on information that was clearly out of date. Were they just trying to cut costs, despite the impact on nearly 10% of children?
/r/MensRights17/10/24 12:02 PM
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Some of the comments here are worth following up on. But I would agree with this article in pointing out that the Hollywood portrayal of the rape of men is mostly played for laughs. One harrowing exception is in the excellent Deliverance.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:04 AM
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There is a lot to what you say. Erin Pizzey did a great interview for Male Psychology magazine a few months ago, talking about those early days
/r/MensRights12/08/22 06:45 PM
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That could be a good idea...
/r/MensRights30/07/22 07:33 AM
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Thanks SZG. It's an important topic and it is featured, but because the book is evidence based and there there is so little research on this issue, it necessarily occupied relatively little space in the first edition. Let's hope there is a lot more research in time for the next edition.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 11:35 PM
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Stats on false accusations are really difficult (see this excellent article to find out why) so we didn't do much on this, but we did include some stats, by sex, on domestic violence and other types of violence e.g. against children.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 11:15 PM
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I think this is an excellent suggestion. We have a little on this topic (e.g. the mental health benefits of relationship stability, problems related to relationship breakdown) but next time we will almost certainly include much more about relationships.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 11:12 PM
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Interesting suggestion. This information is in the book already, but not all in one place. Physical power differences are covered in the chapter on sport & exercise, and domestic violence is covererd in the chapters on crime and on masculinity. It might be useful if it was tied together in one place though. The main issues about physical strength vs psychological power are (a) it's considered unmanly to hit back, (b) lots of men don't even see being hit by a woman as actual violence, (c) men oft…
/r/MensRights29/07/22 10:12 PM
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That's a main subtheme of the mental health chapter, and also specifically Section 11.2.1 'Is Male Depression Different to Female Depression?'
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:42 PM
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Absolutely. I think we mention this either at the end of the chapter on education, or the chapter on the workplace.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 08:38 PM
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Good suggestions. One of the most hard-hitting articles on the CMP website is about men's lack of choice in abortion . I will need to look into wealth division, child care money etc more.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:47 PM
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We do this in various places throughout the book. I just realised that the 'Spotlight on...' sections are not listed in the contents table. That's a shame because there are two or three Spotlights in each chapter, and they often dig down into the data and challenge the 'recieved wisdom'.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:44 PM
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You are right. Research has barely scratched the surface of this issue. There is a good article on 'Kill All Men' here and we go into the topic a bit in various places in the book e.g. re gamma bias, and Section 4.6 on 'The Negative Discourse on Masculinity'
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:39 PM
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This came up a couple of times, mainly in the Workplace chapter, but it's a big part of men's psychology so we could definitely expand on this next time.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:34 PM
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Wed did include a section on the 'Importance of Including Fathers' (Section 4.5) which discusses parenting, but yes we could definitely have put more in.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:33 PM
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No problem. Thanks for the edit.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 11:17 AM
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You left out the fourth presentation on the list: "John Barry – The belief that masculinity has a negative impact on one’s behaviour is correlated to lower mental wellbeing"
/r/MensRights28/07/22 10:18 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 03:30 PM
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It will mainly impact how male victims of domestic violence are seen (or rather overlooked), and how male perpetrators of DV are dealt with (e.g. with 'interventions' based on patriarchy theory, such as the Duluth model). But it will also probably impact any work for men's mental health in the family courts where claims of DV are common, and anything to do with problems fathers experience with parental alienation. The Centre for Male Psychology focuses on a whole range of issues facing men and b…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:34 PM
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In the article is says "...when it comes to protection against covid-19, and – predictably - ‘toxic masculinity’ is suggested as the cause". The article hyperlinked links to a poll of around 2500 people finding that men were more likely than women to say they didn't intend to wear masks.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 09:43 AM
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Try reading the article.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 10:14 PM
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You might want to check my source first, amigo!
/r/MensRights22/07/22 08:01 PM
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This year the male Wimbledon tennis champion played around 50% more games than the female champion, and had twice as many TV viewers for his final. However, the prize for the male and female champion was the same. What kind of message about life do you think this sends to children and young people growing up?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 12:44 PM
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Re similarity in the names: a previous poster left out an 'r'. We have written in some detail about our concerns regarding the APA guidelines in the book Perspectives in Male Psychology (linked above) and in less detail in one or two papers e.g. https://www.pjp.psychreg.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/8-21.barry_.pdf and https://www.pjp.psychreg.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/7-john-barry-50-64.pdf
/r/MensRights09/04/22 12:17 AM
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There is a new book co-authored by that Bary guy which retails at £40 normally, but is currently on Amazon at about half price https://www.amazon.co.uk/Perspectives-Male-Psychology-Introduction-Textbooks/dp/1119685354/ref=pd_sim_1/260-6433924-6013256?pd_rd_w=Dstb7&pf_rd_p=44b6bde5-d4ce-4e04-bc11-0acefba5810d&pf_rd_r=R88B2QR5005PA18D4SGT&pd_rd_r=a937026c-b632-49b6-a77b-5abb6876839d&pd_rd_wg=tJUie&pd_rd_i=1119685354&psc=1 It's got lots of great reviews. There are also some free papers https://www.…
/r/MensRights08/04/22 09:57 PM
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Unfortunately not. However you can see presentations about male psychology for free on the Centre for Male Psychology (CMP) website https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd2epsgcEhiF3LzXAkQlhFQ Note that the CMP is a different organisation to the BPS Male Psychology Section.
/r/MensRights07/04/22 05:01 PM
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Around 80% of clinical psychologists are female, but most of the people involved in male psychology are male.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 12:00 AM
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You might find this video useful too. It's about the mental health impact of false allegations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSQc9iauuw&t=1s
/r/MensRights07/11/21 10:03 AM
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Sorry to hear it. It's a tough journey but it can help to talk to someone who understands the situation. FASO have a phone line (note: UK premium rate, explained here https://www.bt.com/help/landline/what-are-0844-numbers- ) and can be emailed (details here http://www.false-allegations.org.uk/about-us/ ). They are short on staff at present so I am guessing won't be able to answer immediately. Give them a try and let me know how it goes.
/r/MensRights07/11/21 10:00 AM
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True. There is a lot of research showing sex differences in interests in jobs, with women on average tending more towards people-orientated jobs, like psychology. However this doesn't explain why the numbers of male undergrads and trainees has dropped over the decades. My guess is that the narrative in the social sciences about 'patriarchy' and negative constructions of masculinity have something to do with it. A major consequence is that not only is this likely to put off men training in this f…
/r/MensRights17/10/21 09:21 AM
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Well done on getting a positive result from this situation, and well done Target. When the manager said "it never crossed his mind" that men were not being taken into account, this is something that cuts across lots of issues e.g. it never crosses people's minds that men can be victims of domestic violence, or that men are 75% of suicides etc. Incredible how much just doesn't cross people's minds.
/r/MensRights10/10/21 12:26 PM
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This is just my interpretation, but by 'playful' I think he means creative and light hearted e.g. rather than feeling they have to do XYZ, it is about saying 'whatever - I am going to do my own thing'. But 'playful' suggests this is not in a miserable way, but with a spirit of optimism and adventure. If I had to give an example it would be the guys who say 'I'm not going to play video games all day, I'm going to learn to do something amazing on my skateboard / BMX' etc.
/r/MensRights07/10/21 08:20 AM
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I wish I could discuss those points, but I don't have much. Overall I would say the piece is more art than science, intended to generate thought processes in the reader rather than trying something like identifying the psychometric aspects of a new personality type. I would guess his ideas are based on his personal and clinical experience (he is an academic and therapist based in New York). The comment about brightness is interesting because it's more noticeable to me when young men are struggli…
/r/MensRights06/10/21 09:59 PM
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You ask some valid questions. Have you thought about posting your questions to Prof Groth using the 'reply' function under the article? ​ these are interesting questions
/r/MensRights06/10/21 08:04 PM
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Some of the language is complex but if you stick with it, it should make sense.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 09:21 PM
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It's impossible for me to argue against this standard of logic ;-)
/r/MensRights24/09/21 09:57 PM
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Thanks. The second issue is out in about two weeks.
/r/MensRights24/09/21 09:54 PM
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A brilliant Amazon review by US clinical psychologist Sean T Smith (@ironshrink): "This is simply an outstanding volume on topics that cluster around masculinity, including early childhood and play styles, why boys are falling behind in school, male criminality, health behaviors, suicidality and help-seeking, homelessness, and so on. The authors’ apolitical approach is particularly remarkable during a time in which sex, gender, and masculinity are frequently discussed in overtly ideological term…
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:23 AM
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As one of the authors, I would like to do a Reddit AMA on this topic.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 11:16 AM
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Thanks for flagging this up for everyone.
/r/MalePsychology03/07/21 08:00 PM
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It used to be an innocent remark meaning that it's not surprising when boys or men act in male-typical ways. But more recently it's been highjacked by people claiming it is used as an excuse for violent and sexist behaviour by men and boys (e.g. that Gillette advert). It also tacitly derails people into a an unwinnable nature-nurture debate about whether masculinity is just a social construct, with the implication that bad behaviour should be unlearned, or whether masculinity is to some degree t…
/r/MensRights26/06/21 11:17 PM
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I did some research on this - published last year - finding that the main stressors men have from family breakdown are related to restricted access to their children, and to family court issues https://zenodo.org/record/4302120#.YNeiuhGSlPY I would suggest that the family courts should do more to protect men's mental health, which tends to be chronically low in these circumstances. This and other research finds a negative impact of family breakdown on children (chapter 4) and adults, especially …
/r/MensRights26/06/21 10:12 PM
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I am one of the editors and contributors with the Palgrave Handbook. Our new book has just been published by Wiley. It's called 'Perspectives in Male Psychology'. At present you can get it for £30 from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1119685354?pf\_rd\_r=JP8ABSCG8AHJM6Q55A37&pf\_rd\_p=6e878984-68d5-4fd2-b7b3-7bc79d9c8b60&pd\_rd\_r=81279b93-f518-4efd-a34f-cc7a90c3232c&pd\_rd\_w=URgUk&pd\_rd\_wg=y04Wm&ref\_=pd\_gw\_unk
/r/MensRights22/06/21 06:20 PM
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The reviews are near the bottom of the Amazon page in the 'product description'.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 12:06 PM
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