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| 0 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA: | John_Johnson | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 10:16 PM |
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| 1 | "You can cry in here". "You're scared and that's ok". Toxic Masculinity, huh? Just shows how hollow the deranged narrative of masculinity created by society is.And it's not about "coddling insecure people", any more than letting go of the term "nigger" was about coddling people of colour. | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/09/20 03:12 AM |
| 1 | "You can cry in here". "You're scared and that's ok". Toxic Masculinity, huh? Just shows how hollow the deranged narrative of masculinity created by society is.Consider this: it makes my point very clear. You don't fix these behaviours by demonizing them. You fix them by rewarding better behaviours. Couldn't get more obvious. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022243720919709?journalCode=mrja | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/09/20 03:11 AM |
| 1 | "You can cry in here". "You're scared and that's ok". Toxic Masculinity, huh? Just shows how hollow the deranged narrative of masculinity created by society is.For what it's worth: this clip was reposted to r/martial arts. For some reason, clicking the link took me to this subreddit where I have no real place. Nevertheless -- as a simple man, a father of three, a martial arts instructor, and partner in support to my wife of many years... I have to tell you that the negative representation does no good to the cause you'd support. Anyone who's raised kids knows better. If you simply repeat to people that they're 'bad' (for whatever reason) they'll eventu… | /r/AntiFeminists | 23/09/20 02:53 AM |
| 3 | "You can cry in here". "You're scared and that's ok". Toxic Masculinity, huh? Just shows how hollow the deranged narrative of masculinity created by society is.Maybe for you. But I'm afraid that for most of us -- since the only label we ever see or hear applied is the 'toxic' one -- it's an ongoing and depressing dismissal of masculinity. | /r/AntiFeminists | 22/09/20 10:58 PM |
| 1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:"Who gives a fuck about defining manhood?" You do. What you're upset about are the changing social roles forced on you. You're giving them shiny names like "rights" and "justice", but in reality, it comes to this: what society expects men to do, to be, to accept. In other words, how the society in which you live defines men. You can flop your dick around all you like, son, but right now you're letting them define you. And that's stupid. "That's not what this movement is about, it's about fightin… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 10:27 PM |
| 1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:"Why is it my responsibility to check what my sperm is doing, but not the woman's responsibility to check what her ovum is doing?" And why are all you people so fucking concerned with corralling the women? Jeezus! This thread was a test. I wanted to see if other men were prepared to start thinking, and trying to take back the job of defining manhood. I got one focused answer... and a whole bunch of others full of people whining about how much women get away with, and why don't the women do this,… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 11:05 AM |
| 1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:Thanks, mate. I appreciate the effort. Truth be told, I'm using this challenge as a litmus test to see whether I'm going to keep putting time into this subreddit. The ideas aren't too bad. But it's not a false dichotomy. You've carefully looked for a middle ground. I was pointing out that there are two extreme positions here, and it's actually not feasible to argue for both extremes. I can't come at enforced abortions, I'm afraid. I've known women who've gone through abortions, of their own choi… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 10:58 AM |
| 2 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:Extreme cases warrant extreme responses, certainly. Stolen sperm is different from the sperm donor category only in that the donor is doing so involuntarily. Even so: I don't see the right in demanding that a potentially risky and psychologically traumatic medical procedure be imposed on someone else. If the sperm's stolen, yep: the involuntary donor should absolutely have the right to walk away. On the other hand, a man who relies on the word of a woman regarding the pill is taking his chances.… | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 10:48 AM |
| 1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:Sure. But we could at least start looking seriously at figuring out what we want. Because, yeah, we're getting our asses handed to us. Not by superior intelligence, but by organisation and communication. | /r/MensRights | 26/10/12 10:43 AM |
| -1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:Yep. And yet historically, there have been remarkably effective organisations of men. The "doing it my way for me" approach has its merits. I don't think there's any chance of us marching in lockstep, arm in arm. You're right. That's not a very male trait. But what about stupidity and inflexibility? Are they male traits? Because we are being hammered by organisation and consensus. And much as the MGTOW thing is working for you... that's only the case as long as they want to leave you alone. And … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 11:16 PM |
| 1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:Actually, there's an incredibly strong strain of academic and philosophical Feminism, and has been since the days of the Bluestockings -- who pretty much set the groundwork for the entire idea of Feminism. Father's rights are vital. I'm a father myself, and it cuts me to see the treatment men get routinely through the courts, etc. But I can't see an effective way to muster organised male support for Father's Rights if we're also shouting at the same time that men must also be able to walk away f… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 10:54 PM |
| -1 | An Open Challenge To Men's Rights, From A Dedicated MRA:...and that's important to Men's Rights because? Look, if you really want to define yourself by looking to your opponents for an example, I guess that's fine. For you. But it doesn't work for me, because I can see that opponents have some real problems, and I'm not interested in defining what I will or won't do in any terms that they dictate. So please: don't bother telling me any tit-for-tat stuff. We're not Feminists. What they do is their problem. Our problem is first: figuring out what the f… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 10:50 PM |
| 0 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.And there's your magic buzzwords again. So long as you can label people who disagree with you, then you don't actually have to think about what they're saying. Sounds like purest Feminism to me. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 10:19 PM |
| -1 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Kiss kiss, sweetie. Isn't interesting to see you've already adopted your own "buzzwords" for ostracising anyone who disagrees with you? That's a hell of a Feminist tactic right there: if you can't argue effectively, then put the Evil Label on the other, so all their arguments are automatically invalidated. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 10:18 PM |
| -2 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You still don't read very well, do you? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:38 PM |
| -2 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You don't read very well, do you? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:19 PM |
| -2 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Good beginning. But any investigation of masculinity and manhood needs to be much more extensive, prolonged, thoughtful. And it needs to be widespread, and eventually, as consensual as reasonably possible. It starts with people like you and me, thinking. That's a good beginning. But thre's a hell of a lot more thinking to be done. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:18 PM |
| -4 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You don't really read very well, do you? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:15 PM |
| -3 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You don't really read very well, do you? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:14 PM |
| -1 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You don't really read very well, do you? | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 09:14 PM |
| -8 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.You know, I have no idea what you're saying by that. But if you mean "mandatory custody of children by the father over the mother", no. That's not what "parental rights" means. It means having a stake, being heard and considered -- and it means a willingness to accept responsibilities alongside the rights. But there's just a chance you're talking about some form of incarceration of the father to ensure that he pursues a parental role... at least, that's one viable interpretation of your final li… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 01:08 PM |
| -3 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Yep. The only proviso is where a man has acted as father for an extended period of time, and accepted parental responsibility. If he's not the father, and he's never acted in the role of father, they got nothin'. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 01:07 PM |
| -6 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Yep. I have no problems with that at all. If she is determined that she doesn't want kids, she should take responsibility for that decision. Consistency, you see? Rights and responsibilities. Never one without the other. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 01:05 PM |
| -14 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Someone has to. Why don't you have a go? This is where feminism has the jump on us. They actually took the time to think about what it means to be female, and to work towards making that a better thing. You don't want to think about it. You don't want to talk about it. You don't want to define it? Tough shit. Someone else will do it for you. Right now, it's the feminists. You enjoying that? If not, get off your ass and put some thought into the matter. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 01:04 PM |
| 3 | False Rape Accusations: Feminism encourages False Rape Accusations as a way to punish innocent men for the "crime" of being male.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_-kNWrS4A (Feminists opposing Assange's extraditions) It does happen. Just not often. Nevertheless, we need to acknowledge it because we need more of it. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 12:48 PM |
| -9 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Oh -- and a lack of willingness to take responsibility is why we don't have parental rights, not the reverse. If men had been more prepared to own responsibility back when we were starting to accept divorce as a part of life, just maybe the courts wouldn't be so dead set on awarding kids to the women. You really can't have it both ways, cobber. First you're arguing men should be able to opt out. Then you're blubbering that we don't have parental rights. Frankly, when you argue a double standard … | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 12:37 PM |
| -11 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Not in my country, mate. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 12:34 PM |
| -13 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.Son, if pump-and-dump is your idea of equality, you are a very poor specimen of a man. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 12:26 PM |
| -16 | A prime example of why men should be able to legally opt out of raising children.I can see arguments for your idea. But they apply in extreme cases, like this. There is the alternate, where a pregnancy occurs through genuine accident in an ongoing relationship, and the man decides to withdraw. I'm afraid I can't countenance that. Abortion isn't just a simple procedure. There's some very fucking heavy psychological stuff going on. It is not reasonable to demand a woman terminate her pregnancy. It is also not even reasonable to demand the child be put up for adoption. Sometime… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/12 12:02 PM |
| 2 | Every time I think that I have found the end to feminism's massive catalog of neurotic solipsistic derangements, I am invariably proven wrong. Did you know that the word "female" is now considered "dehumanizing" and inherently misogynistic?Try running this one past them: "I no longer wish to hear the word 'male', because as a diminutive of 'female', it implies a somehow lesser status. In fact from now on, I will regard any use of the 'm-word' as a hostile attack. In the meantime, I prefer to use the term GIANTCHAMPENIS!!! to describe anyone of the non-female gender. And make sure you use all the exclamation points. They're phallic symbols, and that is important to the term." | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 10:34 PM |
| -3 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rant...well... umm... okay, being gay isn't wrong, no. But I'm all for a degree of lesbianism in the right time and place. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantI can do both. But of the two, I greatly prefer cooking. Repairing the stove or oven is usually a filthy job that takes ages, and nobody appreciates it. But you put together a nice creme brulee, and everybody thinks you're a genius. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantCannot. Upvote. Enough. Thank you. I will keep this, and use this. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantYou're very kind. And I'm glad you understood I'm not angry at you at all. I'm angry with the people who can come up with this kind of document, and think that it is in any fashion reasonable. I've latched onto just one of the elements cited there, because it's specific to my experience. But I noticed many others I might take issue with. Most of all, I take issue with the last, which translates into nothing more than "Shut up. You're wrong, and you're wrong because you can't possibly how wrong y… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantWhile I appreciate that, I maintain that there are a number of those situations which reverse; ie, situations in which women are privileged because they can do what's "normal" for a woman without facing those particular difficulties. They are quite happy to argue that women are somehow looked down on for having a career, and taking time away from children. But they do not acknowledge the fact that a man who chooses the traditionally female role of looking after the kids is treated equally poorly… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 09:08 AM |
| 16 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantMany of these fucking stupid assertions are simply reverse-case scenarios. I'm a stay-at-home dad, raising three kids. Wish to fuck I could list all the times I've had some stupid bitch come up and tell me how I don't know how to change a diaper/hold a baby/feed a child etc etc. It's nice to claim that one will be disrespected for not having kids and staying with them. Where's the bit that points out that men who do the parenting get no end of shit laid on them? This is an astonishingly fucked-u… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Can someone tell me where I can sign up for some white male privilege? Because I can't find it. /rantFuck -- is that thing serious? Surely not. No... a second look -- holy shit. They think that's real. Jeezus fucking Christ. I don't even know where to begin with this pile of fetid donkey squeezings. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/12 02:14 AM |
| 2 | Hi /r/mensrights. Girl here. I was wondering if I can get some advice? (If I'm in the wrong subreddit, please tell me where to go)First: nobody's going to laugh at you or harass you here. Pretty much everybody here has been on the wrong end of that sort of thing in one form or another already, and if somebody did get nasty, I think you could count on the moderators and the community here to step up. Second: you're already doing the right thing by seeing a professional. If you feel you're getting help from your therapist, stay with it. If you feel it's not working for you, definitely do not give up on the whole profession. … | /r/MensRights | 22/10/12 03:06 AM |
| 1 | "Patriarchy hurts men too"That's hilarious, from beginning to end. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 06:04 AM |
| 2 | Feminist Here with some questions. Not looking to start a fight, but I just want to learn/understand. Long post sorry.Feminism -- the original version -- had a great deal of important work to do, and has (in the advanced Western nations) achieved much of it. What has happened is that the process of Feminism has become a self-sustaining institution, producing people who base their identity on the ideas involved... and one of the most important of those ideas is a concept of victimhood, and oppression. Modern 'feminism' is, depressingly often, a territory-grab, not an attempt at equality. There really does need t… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/12 04:11 AM |
| 23 | Friend uploaded this to FB - Imagine if 'man' was changed for 'woman' and the uproar there would be.You mean that's not a parody? My. How very enlightened. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/12 11:38 AM |
| 8 | So I was walking down the street toward work when a woman said,"You look nice in your suit." I feel violated by this person who only sees me as a piece of meat.It means the commenter is something of a dick, who isn't good at distinguishing social cues or understanding nuances of interaction, and will immediately take the most extreme possible interpretation of any statement in the hopes of creating conflict. | /r/MensRights | 15/10/12 02:57 AM |
| 2 | I would love to see what a feminist thought of this site if the genders were reversed.I stand corrected! | /r/MensRights | 18/09/12 10:00 PM |
| 0 | I would love to see what a feminist thought of this site if the genders were reversed.Nobody would ever create this site with gender reversed. The shitstorm simply wouldn't be worth it. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/12 11:03 AM |
| 1 | From a girl primarily raised by her father: There is nothing wrong with it.Whatever it may be... I seriously considered renting the kid out to a couple of single friends of mine! (Well. Okay. Not seriously. They were single guys for a reason. But I reckon it would have helped!) | /r/MensRights | 16/09/12 12:16 AM |
| 2 | Would it be as acceptable if men were getting excited over a book like 50 Shades of Grey?Of course not. If men were getting excited over it, then it would be porn, and we all know that porn is evil. But since women like it, then it's erotica. And that's okay. | /r/MensRights | 15/09/12 12:07 PM |
| 2 | From a girl primarily raised by her father: There is nothing wrong with it.I don't know, really. I think it might just be the entrenched expectations. Most of the odd looks and matronly know-it-all bullshit I've dealt with has come from older women. On the other hand, when I took my eldest boy (as a cute toddler) to the university to do some research in the library... whoa! Talk about your classic babe magnet! Had I not been thoroughly involved with and attached to the boy's mother, I'd have walked out of that library with a raft of phone numbers... so I'd argue that t… | /r/MensRights | 15/09/12 03:10 AM |
| 2 | From a girl primarily raised by her father: There is nothing wrong with it.You don't have to be sorry. Just help us out. Don't stay quiet when you see and hear the stereotypes perpetuated. I'm a father of three. My wife is in a career that makes a lot more money than I can (as a writer) so we decided together that I'd be doing a lot of "home duties". Near as I can see, our kids aren't suffering. In fact, they seem to be much better off than most in many ways. But... yeah, there's still the surprise, the guarded looks, the responses from different schools and organisati… | /r/MensRights | 14/09/12 05:58 AM |
| 6 | Dumb and dumber go down under: Naomi Wolf writes "The brain science of the vagina heralds a new sexual revolution"Wolf has built an entire career out of male-directed paranoia. What's new? According to the early editions of "The Beauty Myth", the fashion industry is in fact an active, co-operative, fully-aware male conspiracy to subjugate women. The rhetoric got "edited down" a little after about the second edition. I doubt that her attitude changed, though. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/12 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Have you ever had a girlfriend?"Have you ever had a girlfriend?" "Why don't you ask your mom? I'm not the type to kiss and tell, personally." | /r/MensRights | 10/09/12 07:40 AM |
| 1 | Because of this sub, I had a quick conversation with a single father at the dog park. (Hear me out ... lady here.)The lads are right about the don't-apologise thing, sure. I expect we're a bit sensitive about that, since we've been made to apologise collectively and individually for our own gender since we've been old enough for the Y-chromosome to show. But that's not what I came to say. I just read your transcript, there, and I wanted to say thanks. Truly. I'm not a single dad. I've got a very useful, lovely wife, but she's got a job that makes actual money, and I don't, so raising the three kids has fall… | /r/MensRights | 07/09/12 11:36 PM |
| 2 | I'm SorryActually... I'd be happier if you did call yourself a Feminist. I'd rather see Feminism redefined and reclaimed by sane, rational, thoughtful women than have it abandoned to the political harpies. Seriously. I've been reading in this subreddit for a while now, but I've refrained from commenting. I'm a father of three kids, and a writer, and I've been interested in what I see as an overwhelming lack of cohesive masculine philosophy and declining masculine identity and influence in society for at … | /r/MensRights | 06/09/12 12:42 PM |
| 1 | I was wondering if any other men experienced this on datesAnd you're completely free to feel that way. Certainly, I don't see it as a trade item, myself. I see sex -- in this case -- as something I feel like doing. As I'm seriously monogamous, by and large sex has always been something which occurs between myself and someone I'm very much involved with. On the other hand, in between involvements, I never really enjoyed celibacy. And if, in the course of finding out about a potential partner, it turned out that she was the sort of idiot who wanted that … | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 10:07 PM |
| 8 | I was wondering if any other men experienced this on datesThink of it as a filter. Anyone who behaves like such a dipshit isn't worth a second date. Unless, of course, you've got a lock on some seriously hot (and completely uncomplicated) sex as a result. I would put up with opening car doors in exchange for the odd world-class blowjob, for a while. But I wouldn't even consider someone with that kind of attitude as a possible life partner. I couldn't stand living with someone like that. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/12 10:08 AM |
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