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Bingo!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:01 PM
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Inheritance is a major exception to the community property rule and it undercuts the argument that married people are a single unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:36 PM
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That's why I said some men, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:22 AM
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So with respect to abortion, the answer is yes, those things do benefit some men. Your point on paid maternity leave makes no sense. Yes it would be fantastic if there were paid maternity and paid paternity leave. Neither are required under US law but some employers offer one or both. But paid leave for one parent is necessarily more beneficial for both parents and the child than no paid leave for either parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:43 AM
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But don't men also benefit from abortion being available (if they don't want pregnancy either)? And don't men who are parents and baby boys benefit from paid maternity leave bc their partner is able to bring in some income to the family while caring for a newborn? And subsidized childcare helps all parents not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:57 AM
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It sounds like you're saying a woman needs to keep herself sexually "pure" so she is compatible with as many men as possible in case they want her. This is a viewpoint that fails to see women as autonomous humans with their own wants, needs and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:07 AM
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I think it's interesting that anyone would identify a fictional character rather than a real person as someone they admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:24 PM
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It absolutely is coercive to use threats of suicide to manipulate a person into submitting to sex they do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:03 AM
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The suicidal man in your hypothetical isn't showing any reciprocal care for the woman as a human life. Why are women required to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:52 AM
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I personally don't care what strangers think of me. It sounds like you'd prefer it if women spoke to you the same way men speak to each other, i.e., mansplain, victim blame and brutal honesty. My view is that your position is in the minority and most men would not respond well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:54 PM
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I'm unclear on your response. Are you saying that women are incapable of speaking to men the way men speak to each other at home, in public, and at work because unlike men who only speak that way to help other men, women would only speak that way to harm men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:18 AM
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Ok OP, let’s assume that men routinely mansplain, victim-blame and speak without tact to other men and it’s considered normal conversation, and that men speaking to women that way is simply treating women equally. The corollary to that would be women speaking to men the way you say men speak to each other. I find it very hard to believe that most men would be ok with most women speaking to them at work, at home, at school, or in public interactions that way. At best, the response would likely be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:50 PM
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So only men should have high paying jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:16 AM
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What do you think they should say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:14 AM
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What policies do you think the government should have to help more men find wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:14 AM
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Do most men "truly lust" after most women? Being will to settle for a warm hole doesn't equal true lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:22 AM
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When women in this sub correctly point out that red flags can develop over time, the RP denies that as false and an attempt to "avoid accoubtability". If a woman is supposed to know from the first or second date that a man will end up beating her, cheating on her, being financially abusive, or being a deadbeat parent, then men should be able to figure that out immediately as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:16 AM
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The problem with your argument is that it ignores a direct apples to apples comparison in favor of a manufactured apples to bread comparison--in other words why jump to a hypothetical comparison when a man being pegged is functionally equivalent to a woman doing anal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:05 PM
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No the closest comparison is if a man did certain sexual acts with his former partner and then no longer does them with his current partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:28 PM
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Seriously! That and an utter lack of creativity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 08:18 PM
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I didn't assume anything. I asked if you had any factual basis for your assertion that giving oral to a woman is more uncomfortable than giving a blow job. And it appears that you dont. The bottom line is that squatting or kneeling on a hard surface to give a bj or oral is equally uncomfortable for the giver. As for standing oral, it can be absolutely incredible and not uncomfortable at all for the woman receiving it, especially if the giver has a solid finger game. What is your factual basis fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 06:39 PM
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Have you done both? I have. You are flat out wrong that giving a bj is more comfortable than giving a woman oral. And you are also wrong that you can't give oral to a woman standing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:37 PM
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Actually, children, not women, are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:21 AM
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So you think eliminating women's access to birth control is going to make women more inclined to have casual sex with men or be in relationships with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:51 PM
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What? You're the one that said men pick incompatible women because otherwise they would be starved for love, affection etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:09 PM
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Why would any person want to be in a relationship with a partner who is with them because "it's better than starving?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:22 PM
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Your view essentially assumes the only thing holding the majority of men back from raping, beating, and killing women is that women are the ones to birth babies. That's a pretty dark view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:35 PM
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Why create a post on a debate sub and then call anyone who expresses a different viewpoint that yours "triggered"? That sounds like projection. Why does the existence of women who live differently than you bother you so much that you post about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:03 PM
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I did address that part of your comment by pointing out that is a gender neutral issue applicable to all stepparents, not just stepfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:10 PM
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Interesting that you think the purpose and goal of being a husband and father is power. And the same would apply to a stepmother, right, all the responsibility but none of the authority? Why make it a gendered issue when it's a gender neutral stepparent issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:58 AM
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First, both men and women want and deserve peace in their relationship, not just men. And both men and women are capable of disturbing their partner's peace, not just women. Are you really taking the position that most women want to come home from work to an argument? Second, both partners in a relationship should cooperate and try to find agreement with each other. Many tradcons use the terms cooperative and agreeable as what women are supposed to be. But it's just a prettier way of saying the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:01 AM
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You mean just how you are formulating and conjuring assumptions about "single moms" as a group? Or is that only ok if you're doing it so you can feel superior to a group if people you consider inferior to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:06 AM
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"Un-submissive" does not translate to being combative. Unless of course one considers it combative for a woman to want to make decisions about her life instead of ceding that authority to her husband. Rather than deeming that combative, most reasonable people consider that basic human auonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:57 AM
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Obedience is absolutely part of submission. Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:30 AM
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If the only options are as you frame it, shut up and obey your husband vs. being a "single mom" (which is an undefined term so broad that it's just a boogeyman at this point), many women will quite reasonably choose the latter. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:37 AM
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Women don't have an available out for the obligation that men don't have. Both can utilize safe haven. The criteria is having physical possession if the baby. Men can meet that criteria. I also support public health care, so we agree there. I don't see though how legislation can remedy the temporary and permanent physical impacts of pregnancy and childbirth. I'm a mom of now adult kids, incredibly grateful to be so, and wouldn't change it for the world. But there definitely were and are unfair c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:30 AM
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You initially claimed that men have it worse because women "only" have to be pregnant and give birth, while men have to support a child for 18 years. I pointed out that was not correct because mothers and fathers both have the legal duty to feed, clothe, and house their children. It isn't only the father's obligation. You then pivoted to, well women can drop babies at safe havens and men can't. I pointed out that wasn't true either as the safe haven law is gender neutral. So now you bring up the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:51 AM
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In the situation where an unwanted pregnancy results in the birth of a baby, the mother and father have the same legal ability to drop a newborn off at a safe haven. I am not aware of any laws in the US at least that say only a mother has that legal right. As a practical matter, more mothers likely have physical possession of newborns simply because they are the ones giving birth, but if the dad physically has the newborn he can drop it off at the safe haven location as well. So I'm unclear on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:23 AM
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If you are talking about safe haven drops, if for some reason the dad physically has the baby, he could do the same thing. If you're talking about in person giving up a newborn, if a mother tries to do that and refuses to name the father, the authorities will make efforts to force her name the dad, and there is a legal notification process (at least in the US) that must be satisfied before the baby can be adopted. If the dad physically has the baby, tries to give it up and refuses to name the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:53 PM
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A woman giving a baby up for adoption means that neither she nor the bio father has any further financial obligation. That has nothing to do with the fact that mothers and fathers both have the obligation to financially support the children that weren't given up for adoptionedit: fixed grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:38 PM
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Most newborns are readily adoptable and so it would be the adoptive parents paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:30 PM
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That would be a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:26 PM
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I have the same issue with the post--the issue is consent to pregnancy not consent to patenthood, and I read your post. The problem is that the solution you propose, money, is neither comparable nor compensatory for pregnancy and childbirth, whether it's a wanted or unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:22 PM
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I think comparing who has it worse is a fool's game. But if that's the game you want to play, then women would have it worse. Not only do they have to go through pregnancy, labor and post-partum, they have the same obligation as men to financially support their children. Both mothers and fathers have the legal obligation to feed, clothe and shelter their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:16 PM
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OP framed the issue as consent to sex isn't consent to parenthood, when it really should be framed as consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:10 PM
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If you're enjoying it, then by all means, keep chipping away at his nonsense!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:03 PM
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You're not wrong about women. Most women are also extremely put off by this as well, as evidenced by the fact that most women do not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:42 PM
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Prostitution has nothing to do with either straight or gay/lesbian dating dynamics. Prostitution is about selling your body to be penetrated by someone who is paying for the ability to penetrate. The prostitute would not allow this without being paid, so there is no basis to assume that a female prostitute is attracted to her male customer just because she is straight. In other words, physical attraction and the prostitute's sexuality are irrelevant. Just as a straight female prostitute may acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:34 PM
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I disagree--if that's the extent of it, it confirms a lack of interest (barring some strict religious programming) and the man would be wise to move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:00 PM
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There's absolutely no point debating someone like him who believes that abortion is "killing children," thinks that a man working a job is the same as pregnancy, and assumes that all men are working not to support themselves but only to selflessly support their wives, who apparently contribute nothing, and offspring. He's a zealot. edit: fixed omitted word
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:38 PM
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Why is that as equally possible, especially if she is otherwise physically affectionate (holding hands/kissing, etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:22 AM
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I mean you, and other men on the sub, aren't seeing women's persepective if you believe the possibilities I described (about why a woman might not have sex on the first few dates) are rare. I can absolutely see how a man would think a woman wasn't attracted to him if on the first few dates she didn't want to have any physical contact, wasn't up for any kissing by the second or third date, or wasn't flirting or being playful or engaged. If a man acted like that with me, I would also think he wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:55 AM
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You're assuming that having hook-ups is always fun and pleasurable for women. Many women do not find that to be the case, and hence learn from the experience and do not repeat it. It makes me wonder if men truly believe a consensual hookup is necessarily always a good experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:15 AM
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It is true you didn't characterize sex as men "getting" it "from" women and I didnt mean to suggest that you did. I was referring to the other men saying that in the thread. That is absolutely an unsexy perspective though for people who consider sex a mutually satisfying, shared experience. And I think it's possible to know if a man sees it that way through his actions, even if it is unspoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:10 AM
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I never said women can never "do bad", so I have no idea why you are trying to paint yourself as a victim who is forced to put up with women who aren't attracted to you. You aren't forced to do any such thing. The thought process you expressed, which many men have expressed on this sub, strikes me as very black and white thinking on a nuanced topic. This is a public forum in which women are allowed to voice their opinions. That's all. No one's stopping you from using how many dates has she ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:52 PM
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But it sounds like the men responding here are saying that a woman wanting to have early sex isn't enough--the woman must actually have sex early, not just want to. Building desire, craving and anticipation can make it even more amazing when you ultimately do have sex. Taking your time to seduce each other can be incredibly sexy. On the other hand, characterizing sex as something men "get" from women, preferably asap, is very unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:36 PM
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You were talking about sex, and agreeing women needed to "give" sex asap, and at least as early as she has "given" it to other men. Sex is typically defined as either vaginal or anal penetration. Did you have a different definition in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:19 PM
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Ok, if that's what you want to know, why is penetrative intercourse on the first or second date the only way of knowing that you're not just hanging out as friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:08 PM
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There are so many posts on this sub from men about how women can never understand them or what they deal with. The fact that you think this is rare demonstrates that men on this sub are incapable of understanding women or their experiences. This is not rare at all. Women just like men are capable of personal growth throughout their lives and making adjustments to conduct based on that growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:02 PM
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Do you not think it's possible a woman could have sex a few times on the first, second or third date and reach a conclusion that doing so isn't right for her for any number of reasons that have nothing to do with not liking or being attracted to you? I can think of a bunch of such possible reasons, such as: after having had sex very early few times she has learned that she prefers knowing someone better before having sex; she had a pregnancy or STD scare despite using birth control or condoms an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:46 PM
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Yes exactly the waiting list is for babies, not children. So your claim that a mother who becomes a single mother of children who are not babies doesn't hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:41 AM
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Available children? Or available babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:36 PM
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Apparently, he defines "providing resources" as paying for a coffee/drink/meal on the first few dates, which is indeed a novel definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:03 AM
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That isn't what the UBS report says. Did you read the article or just the headline?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:54 AM
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That isn't what that UBS article says. It doesn't say contribute financially. It refers to contributing to investment decisions. Basically even when women are breadwinners their male partners make most of the investment decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:53 AM
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OP euphamistically refers to prostitution as "access to intimacy". But what users of prostitutes are doing is purchasing the ability to literally be inside another person's body--to penetrate another human's mouth, anus or vagina. Given that women are still stigmatized if they have too many sexual partners (whatever that threshold is set at), it seems very unlikely that the act of selling/purchasing the ability to penetrate another's mouth, anus or vagina could be destigmatized. Destigmatizing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:05 PM
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It's not quibbling about the definition of father to say someone who went LPS isn't a father. I do agree that children with parents who abandoned them sometimes have a desire to find out about their biological egg or sperm donor, and I do not agree with banning an adult or soon to be adult child in that situation from making that inquiry. If I was in that situation as a mother, I would not try to stop my child from doing that. In my view, the child knows who their actual parent is and reaching o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:44 PM
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No. You are claiming the mother is barring access to the father—those are your words. But after LPS, he is not the father anymore, right? Isn’t that the whole point of LPS—that he has no legal obligation to parent and provide for the child. So no, the mother would not be barring access to the father because there is no father. Look I don’t think that’s even possible once someone becomes an adult, but you’re framing it as a mother vengeful denying access to a “father” is fundamentally inconsisten…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:13 PM
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And the OP’s framing of it as “easy, open access to women” is dishonest. He’s advocating for the right to temporarily purchase the ability to penetrate another human’s vagina, anus, and/or mouth. OP at least be honest about what you are advocating for instead of pretending it’s just about “access” to female companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:57 PM
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The narrative of the mother not allowing the child to know their "father" is nonsense. He voluntarily gave up any right to be a father. He's a sperm donor at that point, not a father. But sure the mother who raised the kid solo is the selfish one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:24 AM
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You’re ignoring the fact that most women are also working at jobs on top of being what you describe as the household manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:39 PM
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This is nonsense. It is not a crime to wear a speedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:30 PM
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Viagra begs to differ with the claim that men have no interest in staying young forever. As does the fact that ED medication was developed decades ago while there is still no male birth control (other than condoms) available.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:17 AM
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Re the point about average not being preferable in anything else: that position makes the entirety of sex about just penis size. I would agree that most women would prefer a good lover over an average one. The fallacy is assuming bigger is always better and size is the most important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:57 AM
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Yes, absolutely, there are people who are sexually repressed and haven't explored. I am not at all such a person. It's unreasonable to assume that someone who knows their body and has explored different size penises will necessarily prefer larger than average penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:12 AM
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Go for it. I know all things being equal--which isn't even possible with humans--which I'd pick and it isn't 7 or 8 inches. And there are lots of women saying the same thing on this thread. It blows me away that men refuse to believe that women have different preferences on the extremely personal topic of being penetrated, and refuse to accept that the size and shape of women's genital anatomy varies from woman to woman so what feels good to some women will not feel good to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:33 PM
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He's wrong. You're not the only woman who feels that way. Many do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:21 PM
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Having a larger than average penis is absolutely not required for a man to be a good lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:01 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 10:48 PM
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Rather than jumping to yet another accusation that women en masse are liars, here's another thought: the claim that size matters is referring to actual penetrative sex, not purely aesthetics. A big penis on an attractive man can be nice to look at. But that doesn't necessarily mean the person admiring it wants it penetrating her. It's like appreciating a piece of art or the beauty in nature. I see most women saying that size can indeed matter, but it's typically on extreme end of things, i.e. if…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:36 PM
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Well yes of course you can. I never said you cant. You're incorrectly assuming that by high standards I'm referring to the alleged 6-6-6 rule. I'm not. By high standards, I'm referring to someone very compatible in terms of personality, values, physical attraction, lifestyle, sense of humor, religious viewpoints (if any), sexuality, views on parenting and wanting children, money management etc. etc. Marrying someone just because they are attractive or has a good job is actually a low standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:48 PM
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Everyone should have high standards for choosing people to be intimate with and/or partnered with. And how is having high standards against progressive ideas? I'm not aware of any principle of progressivism holding that anyone is entitled to dates/sex/ relationships with anyone else without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:21 AM
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I explained what I think should be the solution or "middle ground" as you put it. Society tells women constantly that they need to take actions and precautions to be safe. The facts of rape cases (if not always the survivors' name) are public record and the vast majority of rape defense counsel try to make the jury believe the victim is lying or at fault for their conduct. Plus, most rape cases aren't even prosecuted because either the victim isn't believed or the case is too difficult to prove.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:02 AM
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Women have always been strong. As for independent, it's puzzling why anyone would mock the fact that women no longer have to be financially dependent on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:50 AM
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He is arguing that women who are survivors of rape or violence at the hands of acquaintenances or relationship partners should not be given any sympathy by men. If he is trying to make the point that it's not just the survivor's fault and the rapist is also to blame, why deny sympathy to another human who suffered brutal and violent crimes if not to attribute fault exclusively on them? OP's conclusion that women are attracted to rape and violence IRL is based on the false equivalence of CNC fant…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:44 AM
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Safety messages are drilled into girls' and women's minds pretty much their whole lives, i.e., don't walk alone especially at night, meet men you don't know in a public setting, negative messages from family/church about showing too much skin, don't leave your drink unattended, don't trust men because they only want 1 thing etc., etc. Also, most survivors of sexual or domestic violence already blame themselves. Many beat themselves up mentally for being with the abuser. And often, the abuser acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:25 AM
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It's not censorship. The sub has rules and standards. Try meeting them. Plus, if you have the right to spew vitriole that encourages rape and violence against women, I have the right to call it out and say it should be taken down. I'm not censoring you as I have no authority or ability to stop you from saying or writing whatever you want. Your post encourages rape and violence against women in equating a CNC fantasy with rape, in saying women are attracted to rape and violence, and in saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:03 AM
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Your post argues that: (1) if a woman is raped or beaten by a man she is acquainted with or in a relationship with, it is her fault and she is not the victim of a crime; (2) most women want to be raped in real life because most women supposedly have fantasies of CNC sex; and (3) women's behavior turns good men into rapists and physical abusers. This is vile, and the mods should take this post down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:05 AM
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Today I learned that women wanting to earn their own money at jobs they don't hate so that they can support themselves is an obsession? And men have been traveling for centuries, and contine to. But women also wanting to experience that is an obsession?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:13 AM
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I mean you have no data to prove or from which to even infer that a bad economy or environmental degradation is never a factor that potential patents consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:09 AM
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More likely, just insistence of financial realities. In the US, the law does not require employers to offer paid maternity leave. There is the possibility for some moms to receive disability pay, which is only a fraction of total wages, for 6 weeks if non c-section birth, and 8 weeks for c-sections. And that's barely enough time to recover from the open wound in the uterus after giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:05 AM
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First, what specific actions are women as a group to be held accountable for? Is that different than blame? And what specific actions are needed to "hold" women as a group "accountable--i.e., what does holding a group accountable soecifically look like? I have these questions every time womens' alleged lack of accountability is raised. Second, I can think of four areas right off the bat where society places responsibility on women: 1. It's always said that children of single mothers are unsucces…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:50 PM
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Most women work jobs for money, which they use to pay household bills And women who are also mothers in addition to working a paid job, also shoulder the biological reality of pregnancy, childbirth, post-partum, and breastfeeding. Then once back at paid work, women also do the vast majority of infant and childcare. How is any of that being "catered to"? I'm not saying men and fathers do nothing because that's certainly not true. But the idea that women and mothers do nothing, or much less than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:27 PM
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Did you tell her that you're not going to take her seriously and she's just for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:15 AM
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Many if not most "single" fathers have their girlfriends, mothers, or other women raising their child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:21 PM
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Lol. Look at the troll, trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:16 PM
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Nope. What that shows is that in general: (1) women do much more unpaid work, like child care, than men do, which would lead to paying less taxes; and (2) women-dominated professions like non-univ level teaching, nursing, other non-doctor level medical jobs, janitorial/cleaning, textiles, elder care, pre-school and infant care, agricultural work etc, are paid less than male-dominated fields, which would mean less tax liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:11 PM
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Your statement that women marry men they aren't attracted to all the time is fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:46 AM
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Ever consider some women engage in bdsm with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:35 AM
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So now sex with Chad is bdsm sex? Do you even know what bdsm is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:32 AM
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Consent. It's right there in the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 04:00 AM
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Number 1, CNC requires consent of both parties. So you should not do it if you don't want to. Number 2, a rape survivor is NOT thinking of their rapist and getting off to the rapist. Sometimes, they are doing this consensually with someone they trust to take back control and autonomy, which the rapist stole. Sometimes they want a safe, role-play CNC to give them a new memory. Typically, it comes down to creating a safe situation where they can take control back after the rapist rook it from them…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:58 AM
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Yes, CNC is consensual role play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:48 AM
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CNC is consensual sex that is role-playing noncensual. So women who enjoy CNC ARE women who "enjoy consensual sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:45 AM
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None of this proves women don't love their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:54 PM
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Another rhetorical question: Why is it that so many men on this sub immediately resort to insulting the intelligence of any poster they disagree with, especially if it's a woman? It's such a weak tactic. My comment says nothing about this sub endorsing rape. Of course the sub doesn't endorse rape, as that would violate this sub's and Reddit's rules. My comment references the many posts on this sub by men saying that if "modern women" don't change their behavior, their rights will be stripped, ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:03 AM
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What scientifically based studies prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the majority of women do not love their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:50 PM
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I was trying to explain this on the thread for the post yesterday that inspired this one. I kept arguing that it wasn't men's inherent nature to rape and murder women only to be told repeatedly by men that, no, actually it is. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:39 PM
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I never brought up natural selection. The OP and the guy I was responding to did. I think it's absurd to apply that concept to humans living now. So many men on this sub rightfully argue that not all men are rapists. Yet here you are asserting that men by nature are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:40 PM
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What is it with men on this sub constantly fantasizing about a world where women are punished for not fucking any man who wants her, by government mandated rape and forced birth? Why do men equate not being able to get a date with rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:35 PM
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Yeah, animals do animalistic things. Are you trying to argue that it's natural for men to rape women and it's natural selection for rapists to reproduce? That is also a very negative view of men, just like saying it is man's nature to murder women. And why are you equating undesirable men not getting dates/LTRs, which is the point of the post, with men raping women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:29 PM
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Your attempted analogy had nothing to do with whether the woman being murdered had a child/children. It posited that a woman being murdered by man was natural selection--it didn't say being murdered before she reproduced. So yes, that is saying that it is natural for men to murder women, which is a pretty messed up argument to make. The point that the comedian was trying to make, which isn't one I necessarily agree with, is that it is natural selection when undesired and undesirable men end up n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:02 PM
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Well then you're saying it's natural for men to murder women? That's a pretty odd statement to make about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:24 PM
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Why would you try to analogize a man not getting dates, which involves no crime since it is not illegal to refuse to date someone, to a woman being murdered by her partner, which is a crime? Why not just make a comparison to the equivalent--a woman not getting dates with who she wants? (edit: fixed typo)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:48 PM
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That comment is so utterly disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:15 PM
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Are you claiming that a woman needing to use lube means she isn't attracted to her partner and doesn't like sex. That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:07 PM
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It is not at all hypocritical or immoral to stand up for the legal rights of others as a group, but also not be attracted sexually to individual members of that group. There is no legal right to be "given a chance" or to be dated. You are conflating two entirely separate concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:22 PM
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The majority of men in their 20s are not clamoring to be married or in serious LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:45 PM
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I suppose it depends where you live, whether you're religious or conservative etc. I never told my daughter anything like that and raised her to be self-sufficient so that if she chooses to be with a man, it's because she likes him and is attracted to him, not because she needs to be "provided" for financially. My friends did the same with their daughters. So this is not at all a universal message from mothers to daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:46 PM
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Also, women receive benefits for not just themselves but also their children. The men on this sub who complain about women getting benefits always ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:59 PM
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To expand on the comment on post partum depression, a symptom of PPD often is regret over having the baby. That symptom typically goes away once mom is treated for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:05 PM
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You mean you will keep your spouse financially dependent on you for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:55 PM
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Again, this is not a gendered issue. It sounds like you are extrapolating your experience dating some rather rigid women onto all women. If we're going by personal experience, I am a woman and wouldn't be bothered by any of that, nor would my close female friends. My long-time (male) partner, on the other hand, hates an unmade bed, things being out of place, and not doing tasks in what he considers a timely matter, which he sometimes considers procrastinating. We make it work despite our differi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:54 PM
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Not a gendered issue. There often are time-sensitive or scheduled actions/tasks/activities related to raising babies and children, like the examples in my post, as well as other examples like vaccine schedules, well visit exams, school paperwork, homework, etc. Plus children do benefit from having routines that are followed most of the time, with some flexibility for unique circumstances. This sounds like a compatibility issue. If a person is concerned about not having a partner who sets artific…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:25 AM
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More accurately, not just saying "Babe I will handle it," but actually handling it within the time frame necessitated by the circumstances (i.e. a poopy diaper or hungry newborn should be handled promptly and not at leisure) goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:26 PM
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Most people agree that a parent should do a hell of a lot more than just not let their child die from starvation or illness/disease. That is the absolute bare minimum, and you're acting like that alone is good parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:59 PM
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Seriously. The fact that a parent of a new baby has time and energy to game regularly strongly suggests that they aren't pulling their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:52 PM
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No. At least with respect to the US, joint legal custody is the norm unless one parent is horrifically unqualified. That stat refers to primary physical custody, and when men request primary physical custody, more often than not, they receive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:45 PM
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This depends on how you define "bigger deal." The first time for many people is awkward, disappointing, not what they expected, and sometimes even painful. It also depends a great deal on the chemistry between the participants. I think it's pretty rare for a first time (or even a first partner) to be a person's best sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:31 AM
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Women compliment their "average" male friends, co-workers, relatives, and partners all the time. It is true, though, that women generally aren't catcalling strange men on the street with "compliments."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:17 PM
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Thinking HIV only affects gay men is indeed homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:57 PM
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I take that as confirmation that lonely really means horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:44 AM
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Oh? It must be jealousy then that his dating pool is more extensive than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:00 AM
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Did you not read the sentence where I said most if not all non-monstrous people "deserve" love, to the extent anyone deserves it? And claiming straight women and gay people get more sympathy for being lonely, you have got to be kidding. Most people have little sympathy for strangers, whether gay or straight, when it comes to getting sex or relationships. No one is assigning women and gay people relationships or partners either. Finally, I seriously question whether the men on the internet compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:58 AM
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Most women aren’t saying lonely men deserve to be lonely. What they’re saying is that it is not women’s responsibility to cure that loneliness by fucking, dating or being in a relationship with lonely men. With respect to deserving relationships, I suppose you could say most non-monstrous people “deserve” love or a relationship, but it’s a meaningless point because relationships/sex/dating are about mutual desire, mutual consent, and mutual compatibility—no one is going to assign you a partner i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:05 AM
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It's certainly is a choice to call talking about being raped or beaten or maliciously and hsrmfully controlled by a spouse, date or long term partner "whining". Most men and women who end up being abused by an intimate partner did not know they would be abused when they chose to enter the relationship. Abusers typically don't show their hand right away, and many severely escalate after marriage or children. It's clear you know nothing about intimate partner violence and just want to spew vitriol…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:38 PM
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Homophobic/biophobic much?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:34 PM
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The majority of women in the Western world have not been in 9 abusive relationships with a tattooed fuckboy. Red Pill tilts at windmills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:33 PM
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I don't think most people have the resources or skill or ability to access 911 calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:26 PM
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Why in the world would a person not prioritize themselves in the dating process? Why would anyone prioritize a relative stranger that they've gone on a few dates with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:52 PM
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It's funny that you think all incidents of domestic violence are prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:50 PM
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If only men could figure out how to keep their pants zipped. It takes both for a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:48 PM
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It's not ironclad. This seems to be an attempt to make an analogy to a friend zone situation. But unlike OP's ball-kicking analogy, in a friend zone scenario, Bob receives friendship from Alice. OP's analogy ignores that and instead goes straight to the ball kick, which is when Alice turns down Bob's romantic advances. She then realizes they weren't really friends and complains that he was only friends with her because he liked her romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:54 PM
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Perhaps cheating and keeping women on the side is the male version of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:41 PM
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No, this is gender neutral. The husband and the wife typically are each awarded half of all assets acquired during marriage. If sharing assets acquired during marriage is problematic for men, they should negotiate a reasonable pre-nup well before the wedding, with each party represented by legal counsel. It is often said on this sub that men don't care about a woman's education, career or wealth. I doubt that is true for most men, but if there is truth to it, maybe they should care, to avoid wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:24 AM
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That's your opinion and you're free to have it (although it seems like a very self-defeating way to go through life.) But it's not fact, and the data instead shows that most people marry within their socioeconomic rank.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:12 AM
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I don't agree with OP's view that all men view relationships as transactional. I'm sure there is a small subset of men and women who view it that way, but not most people. But if I'm understanding your comments, your position seems to be that women's opinions on men's nature in relationships is irrelevant, and only men's perspectives should be considered. I am pointing out that it is hard to reconcile that position with the fact that Red Pill is premised on men opining on the alleged nature of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:03 AM
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I'm a big fan of evidence, and it doesn't have to be stats. And I am an especially big fan of evidence in the face of absurd claims like women don't care about their husbands' personalities and instead focus on status, women only marry up, and men in contrast are not transactional and marry simply because they like "their partners for who they are." And if you're asking my experience, it is that most people marry their peers, with a few exceptions. Although I am now widowed, my husband had much …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:52 PM
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Race seems irrelevant to your post, but at least that can be verified somewhat accurately with census data. Do you have accurate surveys or other reliable data showing that a significant percentage of women don't care much about their husbands' personalities so long as there is the desired "status" or showing a significant percentage of women refuse to marry at or below their socioeconomic status? That sounds like opinion, not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:57 PM
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Those are certainly oft-repeated opinions repeatedly offered by red pillers. But the fact is most people in Western society marry within their socioeconomic group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:22 PM
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And your comments aren’t based on reductive stereotypes of educated, financially successful women? Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:53 PM
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Right, as I said, Red Pill opines on what women's "nature" is without regard to women's perspectives on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:24 PM
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Isn’t a primary premise of Red Pill (and this sub) stating what women really want and prefer without considering women’s perspectives? And not only does Red Pill not consider women’s perspectives, it accuses women of lying if they disagree with what Red Pill says. Personally, I disagree with the opposite gender stating that they know the other gender better than they know themselves, and I think all pills are silly. But this comment is supremely ironic given the amount of “philosophizing” men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:02 PM
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They can sell whatever they want. Do you really think the girl scouts prevent big scouts from selling cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:24 AM
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Lesbian relationships do not have the highest rates of physical abuse. That is blatant misrepresentation of the study, which is repeatedly asserted by men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:51 PM
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I've seen plenty of comments from Red Pill or Purple Pill men on this sub claiming that what mothers do isn't hard work, pregnancy/childbirth/ breastfeeding is not a big deal because women are "built" for it, staying at home to raise children is golddigging and the home/marital assets belong solely to the husband because he is the "breadwinner," and downplaying if not ignoring the fact most mothers are employed and still do most of the childcare, etc. It was actually very refreshing to see Jmuds…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:09 PM
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Ok, but why did you claim that saying the pot calling the kettle black wasn't degrading when in fact it is an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:58 AM
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It may be that you don't fully grasp how analogies operate. For example, the pot calling the kettle black is degrading. It's an insult, denoting hypocrisy, double standards and/or lack of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:44 AM
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That's a made up number based on a fallacy-- abortion is not "women killing children."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:41 AM
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If you consider sex between a man and woman in a committed relationship to be the woman "servicing" the man on demand regardless of her consent or desire, yes you should stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:54 PM
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The point is you're pretending women have never done and do not currently do anything dangerous which is not remotely historically accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:37 PM
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Not that it's a job, but what do you think childbirth is if not historically very dangerous and always "dirty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:22 PM
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Even if that was true--and it isnt--what point are you trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:18 PM
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Exactly. OP is delusional in thinking women are scared of tradespeople. At most, there may be wariness about potentially being overcharged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:11 PM
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And even if "selfish desires" were relevant, and they aren't, what would women need to do to "respect" men's desire for sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:39 PM
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Don't make comments that you're unable to defend. And more insults? How unoriginal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:59 AM
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Men who are stable and employed at the start of the relationship can and do abandon their children, especially once they realize how much work it is to be a parent or the relationship with the mother breaks down. It's interesting how so many men on this sub create these characatures of single moms and absent fathers in an effort to place all the blame on the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:23 AM
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Parents can break up/divorce and still be involved parents. A divorced/broken up with parent can seek custody, exercise visitation rights, show up for events in the child's life, volunteer at the child's school or extra curricular activities, handle doctor's appointments, etc. It may not always be easy, but if you love your child, you make the effort. If a divorced parent, father (or mother), chooses not to make the effort, that falls squarely on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:11 AM
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More insults? These are your random examples, not mine. And you wrote what you wrote. If you only meant a woman lacks accountability if she is below the poverty line and births a child, then you should have written that. But you didn't; your example goes beyond that. Maybe you should take accountability for your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:56 AM
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Typical response to immediately resort to insults and deny the clear meaning if your words. You wrote that taking accountability is to not birth a baby into poverty with an absent father. No birth control is full-proof, so yes, the only way with certainty satisfy your condition would be to refrain from sex until married, or perhaps in a long term committed relationship. And then under your scenario, that still wouldn't be sufficient accountability for a woman because the husband at some point in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:04 PM
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No. The crux of my argument is that it's not a good idea for women to be financially dependent in the long-term on their husbands. Being self-sufficient is but one benefit of not being completely financially dependent. You took the nonsensical position that a woman who is employed for wages is dependent on her boss. My questions, which you have elected not to answer as is your prerogative, are trying to find out if your position is based on a critique on capitalism, or rather on the notion that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:37 PM
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The stat relates to who files the paperwork to initiate the divorce. That's it. Extrapolating from that to claim that 80 percent of divorces involve the woman "leaving" is speculation based on feelings of bias against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:19 PM
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So basically, women should be virgins until they marry a man who they know with 100% certainty will never abandon their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:10 PM
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How is a single mother not taking accountability for her choice in who she had kids with? She is raising the child. That is concrete evidence of taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:07 PM
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I've had several debates on this thread with red pillers saying women who are survivors of rape and/or domestic violence are responsible for their abuse because they chose to be in a relationship with the abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:01 PM
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Ok, then you'd agree that in a household where only the husband has paid employment, the husband is not self-sufficient and is dependant on his boss, who doesn't care about him. And you'd agree that it would be better for the husband to be dependant on someone who cares for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:49 PM
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It absolutely is more risky because instead of having two income streams the family only has one. If the husband loses his job, and the wife doesn't have paid employment, the income stream for the family is zero. If the wife is employed, the family could rely on her income until the husband finds work. Also, I disagree completely that being an employee means a person is dependent on their boss and not self-sufficient. But let's put that aside for a moment. You seem to be saying it's acceptable f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:09 PM
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First, employment is at will, but there are unions and legal protections against discrimination and imposing wage/hour standards, worker's compensation, unemployment benefits, and an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Second, if it's your position that a woman who is employed and paying all her bills isn't self-sufficient, then you agree all men who are employees are dependent and not self-sufficient, right? And if the husband is an employee he is dependant on his boss too, right? …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:21 AM
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Yes, employees, including husbands, can be fired at will, and they would need to find another job. If a wife has marketable skills, she will most likely be able to find employment, and earn wages, again. Another reason why it's not a good idea for a wife to be completely financially dependent on her husband. I don't understand why someone would be opposed to women being self-sufficient and not completely dependent on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:52 AM
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An employee is not "financially dependent" on their employer in the same way a wife with no job/career, no education or job skills, and no childcare, is on her husband. Her access to marital funds in that situation is 100% dependent on the largesse of her husband. Red Pill men on this sub routinely refer to the man's income and assets bought with that income, like the family home, as "his" only, and routinely say that stay at home mothers don't do much, that infant and childcare is much easier t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:17 AM
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You said above that locker room talk is condemned, presumably by society, as harmful to women, trying to use that as a gotcha. But now you're claiming only "feminists" think it's harmful and most people think it's benign? That is contradictory. And, sure, you love women while also believing they are horrible liars?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:30 AM
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It can't be "obvious to everyone" if the majority of people aren't, as you assert, doing it correctly. And women marrying young typically ends up in them becoming financial dependent on their husbands, which is not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:19 AM
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What is the source for that alleged fact? In the US, census data puts the recipients of governmental benefits, defined as social security, medicaid, SNAP, WIC, free or reduced cost school meals, SSI, TANF, Energy aid, rental subsidies, Medicare, and unemployment benefits, as 50.8 percent female, 49.2 male. That's an even split, and certainly does not support the claim that taxes paid by men are supporting the lifestyles of most women. And there is no evidence that most or even half of all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:08 AM
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It seems straightforward to me. A government that does those things would be authoritarian, and it would use its powers to ensure that its citizens didn't up and leave for a free society. Example: Soviet block countries did not allow free movement of their citizens. The Soviets built and militarized the Berlin wall, for instance, to prevent East Germans from leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:56 PM
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And who determines their equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:48 PM
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But I thought the doctrine of red pill was that rich men can get women easily? Men--and women--with higher incomes are the ones paying more in taxes, and those men are having sex, not the men who you claim women reject, who are being rejected at least in part if not completely because they are poor. Also, this argument assumes that all women are receiving welfare benefits, and that no women support themselves financially, which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:40 PM
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It seems pretty unlikely that a government that practices forced marriage, marital rape, and forced reproduction would simply allow its citizens to just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:26 PM
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And who determines the "correct" way for women to "use their freedoms"? Your argument is essentially women should have sex with or marry men they don't like or desire, or else men will rape them. This fails to grasp that actions taken upon threat of rape are rape themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:13 PM
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What point are you trying to make? That women should be enslaved and raped so countries/nationalities/cultures continue to exist? If that's what is required for a country/nationality/culture to continue, it deserves to, and should, die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:05 PM
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The term "redistribution" means the reallocation of something, or to alter the distribution of. In the context of redistributing sex, it means there would be a decision maker saying person x needs to reallocate their body to person y so person y can have sex with person x. It strains credulity to assert that this could ever be accomplished on a mass scale consensually. It would be rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:54 PM
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Well one commenter above is arguing that reaching puberty means a person can consent. So that's at least one man who would very likely go lower than 18 if he could. I would agree that an adult man wanting to have sex with 13 to 17 year olds doesn't make him a pedophile, because that is defined as sexual attraction towards pre-pubescant children. He is likely unethical and predatory though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:25 PM
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If locker room talk is condemned like you assert, Trump would never have been elected President. Your apparent dislike of women is leading you to take positions that defy reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:35 PM
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Marital assets (assets acquired during the marriage) are what is split 50-50 in dovorce and and such assets belong to both spouses equally, not just husbands. So no, husbands are not forced to hand over half of their individual assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:11 AM
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What jurisdictions require one party to a divorce to turn over half of their individual assets and half of their future pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:14 AM
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Ditto for the words cooperate and agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:34 PM
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Yes you did. You claimed mothers' bodies are impacted only during pregnancy, whereas fathers sacrifice their bodies for 18 years (except of course those who do not do physical labor), as if there are no life-long bodily impacts from pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding. Then you argued that fathers have the duty to house and feed children, ignoring that mothers do too and that in the US, most mothers are employed as well as being the primary parent. Finally, your myopic focus on purely finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:05 PM
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You keep repeating that statistic as if it were a fact but it isn't. You are claiming to rely on BLS statistics, but they do not say whether the men who are tragically killed on the job are all fathers. You are just assuming they are. And where did I argue women are overburdened victims? I am simply pointing out the absurdity of your claim that fathers do all the work, and women little to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:38 PM
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No that's being a responsible parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:30 PM
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Well, statistics do show the significant adverse impact having children has on women's earnings and retirement savings long-term due to women typically doing the majority of parenting duties, which certainly is a life sacrifice. As are the permanent changes to a woman's body from pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding, and long-term lack of sleep. But sure, go ahead and live in your delusional world where fathers do everything and mothers contribute nothing but being an incubator for 40ish weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:15 PM
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Those statistics deal with employment, not the time/effort fathers spend parenting as compared to mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:10 PM
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Feminism destroyed vigilante justice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:56 PM
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You're really taking the position that fathers do more of the work to raise children than mothers do? Source for your delusional take?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:54 PM
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Saying men's only value is paying for things is just as wrong as claiming women's only value is sex and birthing babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:22 PM
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Parents are legally required to provide food, clothing and shelter to their children, not just fathers. And the effects of pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding are life-long, not limited to "2/3 of a year."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:36 PM
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Marital assets aquired during the marriage are not all "his stuff "
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:06 PM
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I'm wondering if you have any experience with the bdsm world? Most women whose kink is being submissive identify with her point about kink immediately and easily. There are so many men who are only Doms because they believe women are inferior and they want an avenue to hurt women and be able to justify it by labeling it as a kink when in fact it's just straight up misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:55 PM
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And even teferring to SNAP and WIC would be wrong. SNAP and WIC is available to low income fathers with custody of their children. The only difference is that pregnant and breastfeeding women can receive WIC for themselves on a temporary basis while they are pregnant or breastfeeding because that is for the fetus or newborn's benefit. And general relief benefits to low income people are available on the same terms for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:42 PM
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It's also accepted to punch down on unattractive lonely single women. That is not a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:36 PM
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I don't know what jurisdiction you're in, but in the US, stay at home parents aren't earning credits for social security, have no access to 401ks with matching benefits, have no vacations or sick days, have no unemployment or worker's comp benefits, and parenting is often 24 hours a day, So no, the benefits are not roughly similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:13 AM
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Are you seriously suggesting people who are raped are responsible for being raped because they could have just walked away?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:18 AM
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But blame isn't the same thing as taking responsibility. It could be argued that the single parent who stays to raise the child alone, whether a woman or man, is taking 100 percent responsibility, and the abandoning parent is taking zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:17 PM
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It's ironic that you, a man, are attacking others for raising anecdotes, rather than accepting responsibility and saying, yes you're right, I did bring up an anecdote myself. Your very responses here are proving your OP to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:09 PM
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So men aren't interested in having a spouse who is a functional adult who can pay their own bills? What is it you think men need from a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:40 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that women are becoming educated and having careers in order to attract men. That is not accurate. Most women are doing that for themselves, and so they can be support themselves financially, and help support their families/children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:21 AM
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I think you vastly over-estimate the number of men willing and able to raise infants, toddlers, children and teens 100% on their own. "Wanting children" in the abstract is a far cry from the reality of being a full-time, single parent solely responsible for raising a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 11:04 PM
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How are AI artificial wombs going to save the day for men who are unsuccessful in dating? I have a hard time believing there are masses of forever single men desperate to sign up to be a single parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:37 PM
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The mother also contributes at least 18 years of her income, plus at least 18 years of her life actually doing the work of raising the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:28 AM
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No I don't believe being a stay at home parent means that you are 365, 24/7 on call to comply with the demands of your spouse, whether for sex or a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:56 PM
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You were arguing for wives being required to provide sex on demand with no ability to say no, not just making a sandwhich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:42 AM
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Sure that's a completely rational and fact-based assertion--women don't love or care about their children at all. Do you even hear how venomous you sound? Just admit you hate women and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:18 AM
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And how does a woman supposedly making it her entire personality translate into you being forced to date a single mother? Right, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 06:56 PM
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I absolutely agree that it can be a rational decision not to date a single parent if you yourself do not have children. What is less rational is continuing to metaphorically shout from the roof tops that it's not men's responsibility to date single mothers when no one is demanding or requiring that men do that. I'll allow that there may be a lone person here or there saying that, because there are always outliers, but there is no overall societal or legal request that men date single mothers. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:01 PM
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It's a response to an argument never made. Literally no one is arguing that men have to date single moms. And who is "touting" being a single mom? Seriously--point out anyone on this sub doing that. What people have said is that single moms are taking responsibility because they are raising the child, and this was only said in response to the RP claim that single moms need to take the same level of responsibility as the father. You're tilting at windmills based on your apparent dislike of the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:52 PM
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You don't seem to understand what non-responsive means. It's a legal concept. And it's when the person responding evades answering the question asked--here do you care about women who can't get laid-- by bringing up a topic or information the question didn't ask about--here, your claim that society demands men care about a lot of womens issues. It's a classic evasive technique to avoid directly answering a direct question. And if you gave that answer in court, on a test, in a deposition, or in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:33 PM
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Nope. They asked a direct question with a yes, no or maybe response all as possibilities. Whataboutism in lieu of the direct response that requires the questioner to guess what they mean is the definition of a non-responsive answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:14 PM
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Non-responsive to the question asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:54 AM
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Your whataboutism truly misses the mark. The amount of women who routinely engage in casual sex to take the edge off is a minority. Most single women in that situation take the edge off themselves because they know they will orgasm from that, which is pretty unlikely from casual sex with random strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:53 AM
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What exactly is a single mother who is raising the child on her own with little or no help from the father not taking responsibility for? What else do you expect her to do to take responsibility for having a child with a man who bailed?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:46 AM
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Talk about a non-sequitur. Where did I say it is another man's responsibility? Some red pill men on this sub are so desperate to paint women as evil that they are incapable of staying on topic. It's really simple--no one is forcing any man to date single moms. So why the obsession with bashing and demonizing them at every turn?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 05:27 AM
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I sure hope you are using you in the general sense and not baselessly accusing me of that. I don't think that would be appropriate in a casual dating situation. In fact I don't think kids should even be introduced to casual dates. I think it gets a bit more nuanced in a serious live in relationship or marriage where a person is acting as a step parent and finances are intermingled. But the whole thing is foreign to me as I'm a widow who raised my kids 100 percent on my own and didn't even date u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:24 AM
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I don't know what you mean. Are you saying it's diabolical if a single mother has boyfriend or gets married and asks her boyfriend or husband to contribute financially to raising the child? If so, the boyfriend can simply say no if he doesn't want to and break up, and with respect to a marriage, that should certainly be discussed before the engagement happens. But in any event, what does that have to do with the single mother taking the same level of responsibility with the bio dad who bounces?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 02:16 AM
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Sticking around to take raise the child is taking responsibility, and if she's doing it without involvement from the father, she is taking a much higher level of responsibility than the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:35 AM
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Ah, well we are not from the same country as that is not the system where I live. If the family law rules in your country are based on laws from the 1800s, then they probably need to be updated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:39 PM
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The data shows that women generally are worse off financially in the long term after a divorce as compared to men. situations.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5992251/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:20 PM
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How are men treated unfairly in family courts? Most men who request primary custody from a judge receive it. Most men don't request primary or even 50-50 custody. Alimony is rarely awarded nowadays, and it's even rarer to have lifetime alimony awarded in 2025 because most women are employed. It's also pretty easy to avoid alimony by marrying someone who makes about what you do and sharing parenting duties equally rather than having a stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:08 PM
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No. Most women here are saying they enjoy sex with their partners and engage in sex because they want to and enjoy it, not as a transaction. You have used OP's absurd post as an opportunity to repeatedly insult women and men by saying only attractive women have value and average women have no value besides being sex dispensers to their husbands and boyfriends, and implying from those two claims that men only value women for sex. Like I said, your comments are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:36 PM
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The way you talk about women and men is really disgusting. Most people get into relationships and marriages because they are interested in the other person on a human level. And most men don't consider women to be nothing more than a sex toy. How in the world are you labeled blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:35 PM
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That is so not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:28 PM
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According to your prior post, fathers force it on their sons bc they're in denial. Did you forget that you wrote that? So you think parents view their newborns the same way fraternities and sororities view pledges? Parents want to love and protect their newborns, not haze them. That is an absurd analogy. Wrong. Type 1 and Type 2 are the most common forms, accounting for 85 percent of FGM. Type 1 is defined as the removal of the clitoris and/or removal of the hood. The statistics do not different…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 11:17 PM
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Source? And even if true, and most non- Jewish circumcisions are done in the hospital before the mom and baby are released. So it makes sense that mom would sign since she's the parent there. That doesn't mean she's the sole decision maker or dad had no input. Cope. And you're clearly not a parent if you think a dad who believed he was mutilated and couldn't enjoy sex would actually make a decision on that basis. That's patently false. That is a deranged take. And your insulting reference to wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:28 PM
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It gets so old hearing some red pill men--who preach accountability--place all or the majority of blame for circumcision on women. First, in modern day America--and you've said your post only applies to the US--many if not most women defer to the father regarding circumcision since the father has a penis and the mother doesn't. Second, if a circumcised man believed circumcision mutilated his penis and robbed him of sexual pleasure, such a man would do everything in his power to make sure his son…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:09 PM
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No. Parents make the decision. There is zero factual basis for your assertion that mothers solely make that decision or your implication that fathers don't want their sons circumcised but mothers overrule their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:13 AM
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The first paragraph of this comment exemplifies why many people have moral objections to age gap relationships between 18 to 22 year olds and people 10 plus years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:29 AM
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Seriously. It really shows how necessary age of consent laws are. What exactly are 12 year olds "willing participants" in? What an utterly disgusting series of comments from adult men. edit: fixed typo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:07 PM
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Some women do really want that, but many aren't really into women and are trying to make their husbands happy and will only kiss or engage in top play.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:44 AM
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If true--and I don't think it is--that's pretty disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:32 AM
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No. Given the dynamics of bdsm, the Dom and sub should be at similar age and maturity level. That way the power exchange that happens with a D/s situations starts at a level playing field. That helps ensure the power exhange is truly voluntary and consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:32 PM
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I was responding to the claim OP made, which was nonsense. I never said anyone has 100% control over their destiny, because that too is an absurd claim. There are things in everyones' lives, man or woman, that are beyond their control. And yes, men and women should be able to freely consent, or not, to sex, dating, relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:12 PM
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Your claim that men have no problem admitting that their personal flaws are the reason they don't have a relationship is absurd. This sub would not exist if that was true. There are posts or comments every day blaming "modern women" for pretty much every difficulty a man might encounter in dating/ marriage /relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:16 AM
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Ok, so you weren't talking about the US, which is why I asked the question. The US does not have quotas, including no quotas for the US Congress.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:22 AM
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Where are they a thing? Quotas have been illegal in the US for quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:34 AM
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This is true for many of the big national charities. But there are many smaller, local charities where 85% plus of funding received goes directly to services and programming. You're painting with too broad a brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:48 AM
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That makes no sense. Why do women have the obligation to encourage men to do the shitty jobs that are women- dominated? Your whole point was that women only do or want to do cushy jobs, which plainly isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:35 AM
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Posts like this always ignore that women are the majority in jobs like nursing, nursing assistants, elder care, care for disabled, hotel maids, office, commercial and residential cleaning and etc. which are far from comfortabke, cushy, air conditioned jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:54 AM
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There may some who do that. But I've seen many, many women who have shared their personal experiences, and they're told exactly what I wrote in my comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:32 PM
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The dick size posts really should just be labelled as Questions for Men from now on rather than debate. It's clear that the actual experiences of women on this sub are irrelevant and will be dismissed as either a lie or "well you haven't fucked a guy with a X sized dick who could use it well."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:16 PM
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Source for "a lot of rapists rape" because they think the woman is "enjoying it"? Why do you have a problem with a rule that requires people to stop sexual activity unless they have verbal consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:01 PM
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Rape apologists, man. 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:45 PM
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Ah more fake concern and misstatementbof my argument. I neverb said nmanything about rape culture: I believe you are a rape apologist. Nor did I say women have nothing to worry about. To the contrary women worry about rape all the time, which some men on this sub ridicule repeatedly. I also said that women who try to create a CNC scenario without explicitly discussing that with their partner, and say no when they dont really mean it are qrong and should not do that. But what I won't say is that …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:17 AM
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First, most women who want to act out "rape" scenes do it with a partner based on explicit consent to the "rape," which means it isn't rape at all. Second there may be some women who want their initial no not to be taken at face value. Those women, if they exist, are flat out wrong to engage in that behavior. And the fact that a minority of women may do that does not mean men are justified in disregarding "no" from every women. I mean why would a man want to risk disregarding a no on the off cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:27 AM
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Your feigned concern for rape survivors is pathetic. So why don't you clearly state your position: what is it you think rape survivors need to do to solve the problem of rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 06:08 AM
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A rape victim is neither at fault nor responsible for their rapist's chouc3 to rape them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:29 AM
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Your response is flippant and intentionally missing the point. You framed the problem as women having CNC rape fantasies because that leads to men raping women because they think no doesn't mean no. The solution for men that are truly confused as to whether a no really means no is to stop whatever they're doing until they have express consent to proceed. It'a clear rule that is easy to follow--if a woman says no take it at her word and don't proceed unless you have a yes. But that solution doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:28 AM
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Which is saying women are responsible for being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:44 AM
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The requirement of consent solves the alleged "problem" you've identified. It sounds like you are just trying to excuse rapists from raping and placing the blame on women because they may have a fantasy of CNC sex or watch consent-based porn that depicts CNC.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:59 PM
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You have made the choice for yourself that your role is at home. But that is not all that women are good for. And no, women are not in general inferior to men in every field. Women in the legal profession win against male lawyers all the time, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:13 AM
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So you're assuming that men are automatically better teachers than women, and that if a woman teacher is good, she is an "outlier"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:05 AM
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Because then OP wouldn't be able to take enjoyment from seeing women teachers "punished" for being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:59 AM
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Not liking a particular person is not remotely similar to proudly proclaiming that you hate women. Hating an entire gender is not normal. And you honestly think a woman with a flair that she hates men wouldn't be ridiculed and insulted by some of the men on this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:54 AM
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I never said anything about victims or victimization in my post. My post was essentially defending men against your claim that men's only motivation is women. Today I learned that saying men have purpose besides finding a woman "victim feminism propaganda."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:29 PM
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No it's not. Men fuck prostitutes to have sex and cum. There is no motivation for a woman to fuck a man who is she knows, per your theory, is not attracted to her and may even be repulsed by her, and knows will not make her cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:59 PM
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If women are supposed to assume the guy she is hooking up with is not attracted to her, and that therefore he will not care about her pleasure, then what would possibly be her motivation to hook up? It isn't validation because she's supposed to assume he isn't attracted to her, and it isn't pleasure because she's also supposed to assume he doesn't care about her pleasure since he's not attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:08 PM
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But many men on this sub repeatedly argue that men have a very broad range of women they find attractive. Plus, some men prefer (or have a fetish for) overweight women. Given that why should a woman automaticaly assume that the guy wanting to hook up with her has no attraction to or is repulsed by her? It sounds like just another way to neg women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:00 PM
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How typical that you immediately resort to insulting women's intelligence. Most adult men are either looking at pictures of porn while using a pocket pussy, and presumably that's what's resulting in the erection (unless they're still in the phase of spontaneous erections). It seems like you're taking the position that many or most men routinely fuck women they have zero physical attraction to and may even be repulsed by, which if true is pretty disgusting. Why do you think so negatively of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:50 PM
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Why are you assuming the woman knows he doesn't find her at least somewhat attractive? I think most women would assume that there was at least some attraction if a guy she's with has an erection and they're fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:48 PM
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It's a negative view of men to conclude that the only thing that motivates them not to live in hut somewhere is women. It's assuming men have no independent agency, thoughts, interests, goals or purposes if their own outside of "must have woman". It's also a negative view of women because it assumes women have no independent agency, interests, purposes or goals beyond being a thing for a man to acquire and fuck. It doesn't take any gymnastics to see that reductionist viewpoint is insulting to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:25 PM
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What historic time period(s) are you referring to? I thought the position of this sub was that "feminism" and "modern women" were the cause of the alleged large amounts of sexless and unhappy men, and "feminism" and "modern women" are relatively recent phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:21 AM
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This is such a negative view of men. And women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:02 AM
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But why do they need to be judged? Their babies are being fed. Why can't we accept that there are multiple ways to provide adequate nutrition to babies? Do you think there should be consequences imposed on mothers who choose not to breastfeed when they otherwise could? I'm not being sensitive; my kids are healthy fully-functional adults notwithstanding their differences in how and what they were fed as babies. It just seems like a slippery slope towards making decisions, like how and what to fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:59 AM
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I, and most moms who are able to get adequate prenatal care, do understand that breastfeeding is important. That is why I breastfed my son. My daughter however refused to latch despite numerous appointments with lactation specialists, and countless hours spent trying (which was horrible for my mental health and yes the mental health of a newborn's mother matters), so I pumped and then fed her from a bottle, which was not convenient at all. Should I and mothers like me be judged and shamed for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 12:30 AM
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The one based on a 1991 interview of approximately 80 women? That doesn't really seem dispositive. And concluding that mothers are selfish and neglectful if they dont breastfeed from their own breasts--I mean you are criticizing mothers who pump--unnecessarily judges mothers of newborns and babies, most of whom are trying their best to feed their babies and want the best for them, just like most fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:12 PM
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It seems disingenuous to cite abusive/neglectful mothers as evidence for the claim that women en masse are walking away from breastfeeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 10:00 PM
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I can't speak for other countries, but in the US, it doesn't have any impact on division of marital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 PM
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It just sounds like you need to find more compatible women to date and potentially impregnate. I've seen responses from several women on reddit saying they'd have no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:37 AM
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This is a very emotional post--imagining that women think they are perfect and sinless and never have lustful thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:33 AM
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Egomania is a psychological condition diagnosed by a psychologist. Are you a psychologist? It's condition characterized by obsessive love of oneself and preoccupation with one's needs. I doubt a psychologist would diagnose a pregnant, birthing or post-partum mother for being hurt at being accused of cheating--and that's exactly what a request for a paternity test is under those circumstances because the only way he's not the father is if she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:26 AM
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You missed the "running and organizing the household/family/children" portion of the definition. It's not just managing emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:06 AM
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We will have to agree to disagree. Although you say you are not blaming women, I and many others on this post, believe that your claim that women's on line comments trigger men to violence is effectively making women accountable for men's violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:34 AM
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Both the Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries define triggering as causing something. Triggering means cause. And triggering is the word you used.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:24 AM
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When you say that women's words on line "trigger" aka cause men to be violent, you are indeed blaming women and making them accountable for men's actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:09 AM
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That is not a remotely accurate summary of the linked article.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:45 AM
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So many words to say women are to blame for men's violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:12 AM
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If that is true then the corollary would be that being meek, obedient and submissive keeps women safe from men. And history has proven that to be false. No matter what women do, some men will always be violent to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:55 AM
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I mean you're advocating to restrict women's free speech rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:24 AM
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What that translates to is you think women should be meek and submissive to men in the hopes they don't beat or kill us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:08 AM
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I didn't catch that you were relying on a study from the 1950s. In 2025, the general concensus in the US and other Western countries is that husbands should not hit their wives as a form of discipline. That may be why the elder women you talked to said they'd never heard of domestic violence because back then it wasn't considered domestic violence for a husband to hit his wife. It sounds like you have never been hit in anger by your guy. I'm glad you havent experienced that. But for those who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:01 AM
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I'd like to see that data, the sample size and the composition of the sample, because those numbers seem suspect. But let's assume that you're correct that 25% of men and 16% of women think it's OK for a husband to physically punish his wife. Your argument still fails because in those situations, the wife is CONSENTING to physical punishment--it's not against her will because she has agreed to her husband having that power over her. I am glad however that you are able to see that consent makes a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:33 AM
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Giving consent is a huge difference. Or do you also believe consensual sex is the same as rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:15 AM
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Consensual kink and bdsm play is not the same as being physically hit by your husband as punishment. Your argument is so disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:06 AM
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Comparing being spanked against your will by your husband as punishment is not remotely comparable to consensual kink, which is what spanking as foreplay or during sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:04 AM
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You mean their wealth, right? Or even after 30, 40, or 50 years of marriage, everything is still all his?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:28 AM
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He changed his tag from earlier today when it said woman-hater. But he can't hide his hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:13 AM
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It's not pearl clutching to object to a statement that encourages violence against women by saying women deserve to be hurt. You have made no logical arguments. You've simply made hateful statements. They don't need to be dismantled because they are objectively absurd. Your blind hatred of women makes you unreachable and unworthy of debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:12 PM
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Hurting women isn’t a bad thing. They deserve to be hurt. Just preserving this comment in case this self-proclaimed misogynist tries to delete it later. What a disgusting comment. Get help for your mental disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:47 PM
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It's not a feminist narrative to point out the fact that most women still work after marriage and childbirth, that the difference between what the wife earns and what the husband earns is shrinking, and that the number of women earning the same as or more than their husbands is growing. That's just recognizing reality. Being the breadwinner implies that that person is the sole source of income, or at least provides the vast majority of the income, say 75% ar least, AND that the other spouse isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:25 PM
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Where did I "indicate" being homeless is great? You complained that as a single man your taxes were funding single mothers. I responded that, no, in fact benefits for low income people are gender neutral, except for limited duration WIC benefits to pregnant and breastfeeding mothers. Then you shifted the argument to homeless men, implying that society doesn't care about the homeless because they are men. When I showed that, no in fact, government spends a LOT of money trying to address homelessn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:43 PM
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I would love to see some evidence for the proposition that there is a large percenrage of men in their 20s who want to get married in their 20s; and who are desirous and capable of being a "provider" in their 20s. I am not sure what part of the world you are referring to, but in the US, that isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:55 PM
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Ok, thanks for the explanation. I agree that where the rapist is a relative or someone the survivor has a prior relationship with that there could be conflicting feelings. In such a case, there would be some sort of existing bond that the rapist used to their advantage to facilitate the rape. I don't think that would be the case where the rapist is a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:41 PM
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And government spends billions on addressing homelessness, with federal spending proposed at $10 billion. California has spent more than $20 billion on homelessness since 2019. But sure, you can continue to believe that your taxes only go to single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:32 AM
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No they do not set the standard for what a relationship should be. If anything they set the standard for what a relationship shouldn't be. Take The Bachelor: no woman IRL wants to be with a guy who is simultaneously dating 30 other women, while also living with those ither women, or if you make it to the final two, have no idea whether you're being proposed to or dumped. It's mindless entertainment that can sometimes be fun to watch or hate-watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:57 AM
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"For rape some people hurt the people they bond with" So it's your position that rapists are trying to "bond" with their victims? That's rape-apologist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:47 PM
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What conflicting feelings are you referring to with respect to rape survivors? Are you saying that a rape survivor is bonded to their attacker?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:44 PM
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In the US, very low income men qualify for the same benefits as very low income women. The only exception is that WIC provides food to women while they are pregnant and breastfeeding to ensure that infants have their nutritional needs met in utero and in the infancy stage. If low income men have infants and small children in their care, they can receive WIC to feed the children. Are you as equally upset at low income men who receive benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 11:09 PM
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What "different things" should women do for men on dates to compensate men for planning and paying, other than being honest about whether they are interested in getting to know the man, and planning and paying for some dates too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:09 PM
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People have responded to your questions in good faith that women early in dating have the responsibility to be honest about their intentions, that many women are willing to share the cost of dates, that women have the responsibility to be responsible adults in a relationship, that women work, pay bills and also deal with pregnancy, childbirth, and infant and childcare while also being employed, and that both people in a relationship have the responsibility to treat each other as they would like …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:46 PM
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What country in 1910 imposed legal obligations on women to have multiple children? Why can't women serve their nation in ways that don't involve having a baby every year from adulthood to menopause?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:32 PM
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Exactly. Both parties in the early stages of dating, as well as in relationships, have the responsibility/duty to be honest. And there are plenty of women willing to go on low pressure, low investment first dates. If woman you want to date requires more, then you're simply not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:29 PM
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Not necessarily. Unless you are a multi-millionaire or billionaire in which case you pay proportionally less than anyone, you only pay more taxes than people who earn less than you. Not all all "single moms" are the "welfare queen" stereotypes that RPers love to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:23 PM
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The way you phrased that sounds like you view relationships as a vending machine that men put money and time into in exchange for a guaranteed long-term result. When a relationship fails BOTH parties "lose" whatever they invested in the relationship and women invest too, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:29 PM
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it's pretty rich that he lectures you about having no right to speak about other countries and then accuses the US of spreading "gay communism", whatever that is. Gay people have always existed, everywhere there were people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:47 PM
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It is posted repeatedly on this sub that women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships. I disagree with that, but it is the old saw that is repeatedly trotted out on this sub. If it is the man that decides whether there will be a relationship, how does that relate to women having it easier? And even if we assume your claim that women have an easier time getting into monogamous relationships, that does not mean that women have no responsibilities in a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:38 PM
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Men view women having dating easier because men typically initiate contact and because average to attractive women can generally get casual no-strings sex from men easier than men can get from women. Men have that view because many place a high value on casual no-strings sex. As has been debated ad nauseum on this sub, many women do not view the ability to have casual sex with random men to be a benefit because casual no-strings sex isn't what they value. That debate will never be resolved becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:30 AM
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And OP conveniently ignoring the fact that most women work outside the home while simultaneously taking on the responsibility of pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding, infant care and child care. Cue red pill/purlpe pill men diminishing all that and claiming women live life on easy mode and women's contributions are di minimus because men are solely responsible for everything that makes society function. I honestly don't understand why men with views like that even want to be with women. edit to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:45 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:38 PM
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Text - H.Res.7 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Recognizing the importance of access to comprehensive, high-quality, life-affirming medical care for women of all ages. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text Here you go. There's similar language in Project 2025 as well. You are correct that no fault divorce affects both men and women. It would be devastating to male and female abuse victims. Some people think it would be easy to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:52 PM
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The Republicans/MAGA aren't just looking to ban abortions. Republicans in Congress submitted a resolution in favor of "wellness based fertility" in lieu of the pill, which is essentially the ineffective rhythm method, and encouraging women's health care that considers the needs of their husbands, children and the community. There is no similar call to consider the needs of wives, children and community in relation to mens health care. And there are calls to ban no fault divorce, which although u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:23 PM
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I flat out said the OP is nonsense and women and men en masse do not view each other as sub-human. But of course you ignore that part. I will enjoy my day because I actively help male and female survivors on a daily basis without viewing either men a or women en masse as evil monsters despite what individual members of each group may do. You are apparently incapable of that and prefer to hate women. You choose hate. I do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 06:57 PM
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The OP speaks in generalities that women view "unattractive" men as sub-human and that men do not view women as sub-human. I respond to OP to say nope men do indeed view "unattractive" women as sub-human, using the same generalities as the OP. Now you've turned that into me supposedly holding men collectively responsible and letting women off scott free? That is such a bad faith response. Men en masse do not view women as sub-human. Equally as important, women en masse do not view men as sub-hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:37 PM
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My point is that OP's claim that MEN do not de-humanize women is nonsense and factually unsupported and unsupportable. I gave examples of how men de humanize women they don't find attractive by noting the vitriol against single mothers, overweight women and "post wall" women, and provided an example from this very thread. How is my point invalid? Are you taking the position too that men do not dehumanize women? And if you are, how is the fact that some women--and men--object to porn useage remot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:00 PM
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I know what negging means. My comment directly rebutted OP's unfounded claim that men don't de humanize women. You raised the irrelevant whatabout-ism that women sometimes insult unattractive women, which is irrelevant to either OP's point that men don't de humanize women or my rebuttal of that point. You've made no substantive point, just insults and deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:13 PM
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I was responding directly to your insult; that is the definition of on topic. But it's clear from your responses that negging is your shtick. You don't actually make a substantive point; you just find an irrelevant nit to pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:13 AM
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Or maybe I read the thread that I'm actively posting in and saw your insult about women's reading comprehension? But sure call me a weirdo if makes you feel better. Ad hominum is the tactic of people lacking a real argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:59 AM
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OP explicitly claimed that men don't see women as "sub-human". You don't appear to be reading the actual comment from OP that i was responding to, which is somewhat ironic given your accusation about women's reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:50 AM
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Can none of you stick to the point? I was responding to OP's claim that MEN never de-humanize or vilify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:44 AM
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Too late for that. He's posted this nonsense twice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:32 AM
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No it's not. Men dehumanizing women they don't find attractive (over 25, a mother, overweight) is as old as time. It has nothing to do with people complaining about men, or anyone really, who over-use porn and can't get off from in person sexual encounters with non-porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:05 AM
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There are many posts from men about how single mothers, overweight women and post-wall (i.e. women over age 25) are sub-human. In fact, there's a post on this OP complaining about overweight women reading erotica about handsome, fit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:10 AM
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Wow so many moving goal posts. Are you trying to claim that men who work in service fields like the food service and bar industry don't have casual sex or relationships? Anyone who has worked food service/bars knows that claim would be nonsense. And now you're complaining that the women who fantasize about the bartender, gardener etc. aren't hot enough for your preferences? How is that remotely relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:18 PM
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Why is a woman, or any person male or female, required to continue in any interaction with another adult if they find that interaction unacceptable? I wouldn't recommend that with a police officer trying to pull you over or give you a ticket. But a stranger or acquaintance approaching a woman and she's not interested, why would she not be fully justified in saying I'm not interested and "shutting it down"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:09 PM
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Now you're claiming the article says 70% of women blame menopause for their divorces? Do you ever stop lying?
/r/Divorce_Men18/03/25 09:12 PM
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Indeed, it's not a strawman. It's the title of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:05 PM
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The point of the article is not that hormonal women destroy relationships--which is the point of OP. The article demonstrates the medical field's failure to take women's concerns about menopause symptoms seriously and to treat them as appropriate with HRT and that this failure can impCt interpersonal relationships. The issue isn't as OP suggests that menopausal women are unaware of their menopause symptoms and as a result stomp around blissfully unaware of what is happening to their bodies and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:27 PM
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If you're referring to my comments about the lack of scientific evidence to support OP's ridiculous claim that women's hormones are primarily responsible for relationships failing, I never said relationships fail because men are crap. I don't believe men are crap. I believe that relationships fail for a host of reasons most of which are wholly unrelated to women taking effective hormonal contraception to avoid pregnancy. I also believe that the medical field woefully ignores and under treats wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:07 PM
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As was explained to you above when you linked this above, this article does not support OP’s position.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:05 AM
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This is patronizing, condescending drivel. Please stick to your sex dolls and leave women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:05 AM
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There is no evidentiary support for your claim that there are so many marriages with "good men" that are destroyed by hormonal women. Your attempt to be innocently confused about why people might find your sophomoric personal opinions about hormonal women messing up relationships is laughable. And of course you'll dismiss any woman disagreeing with you as a hormonal woman being triggered. This OP and the OP's responses are bath faith
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:37 AM
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It's not about awareness because your post is misinformation not science based fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:30 AM
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There is no reputable science to support your claim that medical intervention (ie birth control) is responsible for these alleged issues. You are spreading misinformation and essentially blaming any and all problems in a relationship as being caused by women's hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:29 AM
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There is no reputable science to support the claim that hormonal birth control impacts the type men women choose or that women lose attraction for those men once off hormonal birth control. This view is espoused by conservatives and some red pillers to discourage women from taking effective hirmone based contraception and instead switch to the much less effective rhythm method, which is now euphemistically called "wellness based fertility." Republicans have submitted a resolution this term calli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:24 AM
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I think it's far too generous to characterize this as "info about women's health."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:59 PM
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Once again, you are misquoting me. What I said was that they were not more happy and less depressed. As I noted above, I don't think there are studies that can accurately state whether prior generations are happier or not, especially given that happy is a completely subjective and relative concept. That's why I dispute your position that women were happier in prior generations where they had less autonomy over their own lives. I do believe that if women were as blissful then as you claim, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:28 PM
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I'd suggest you try reading what I actually write. I didn't claim that they drank more. I wrote that they drank a lot and were often prescribed "mommy's little helpers" like valium. I wrote that in response to your claim that women in the 1950s were happier. You provided no support for that claim, nor can you because there is no objective way to compare the overall levels of happiness of an entire gender. I mentioned drinking and prescription meds in the 1950s because red and purple pill people …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:16 AM
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My grasp of reality is just fine and is in part based on first hand accounts of women who were adults and SAHMs in the 1950s as well as historical accounts. That study refers to deaths from alcohol and states that the number of women dying from alcohol use in the past 20 years is rising. The study says nothing about women's use of alcohol in the 1950s, which most likely was not studied contemporaneously. The study in no way refutes my claim that women during that time period drank. I never claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:25 PM
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Women in that era drank a lot and were routinely prescribed "mommy's little helpers" (like valium). They were not more happy and less depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:15 AM
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Your characterization of treating someone who puts a price on their body as just that doesn't address my point. If a person believes it is morally wrong to be a prostitute, which I surmised to be your position given your reference to "whores" in comparison to "normal" people, then it is indeed hypocritical to conclude that it isn't morally wrong to use a prostitute. The basis for any principled objection to prostitution is that the act of prostitution itself is morally wrong and that would apply…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:10 PM
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It's hypocritical to say it's wrong to be a prostitute, but it's perfectly fine to purchase a prostitute's services. It also ignores the fact that many prostitutes are coerced or trafficked. It's not always a freely made decision to be a prostitute, whereas in contrast, the decision to use a prostitute generally is a freely made choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:03 PM
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Would the men who use the services of "whores" also be removing themselves from the relationship pool? That would make it easier on us "normal people" too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 01:20 AM
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I'm asking Mountain Sand to clarify because I do not believe women would in general be happier being sex workers, and that is what their comment seems to suggest. It has nothing to do with in comparison to being in a relationship with a man. The overwhelming majority of women do not want to be sex workers, whether in comparison to being single or in a relationship, and would not be happier under Mountsin Sand's proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:51 PM
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When you say "men and women would be happier" are you suggesting women would be happier as sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:01 PM
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They promise to tell you after they have sex with someone else. That doesn't mean you can trust them not to have sex with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:00 PM
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What is there to trust when your partner tells you they can't promise to be faithful? You can't trust a partner to be faithful when they openly say they won't promise to be faithful. That statement destroys trust and would lead most people to assume their partner is or will have sex with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:52 PM
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No it means implied consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:01 AM
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Key words, under the right circumstances, meaning with consent. That's a lot different than a man putting a women over his knee consensually and hitting her ass hard enough to leave marks, which contrary to your claim is wife beating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:43 AM
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You think 70 percent of women enjoy being spanked without consent? Do you have hard evidence to support that statistic? Spanking can leave bruising, which is not light-hearted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:45 AM
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You don't consider it an act of domestic violence for a man to physically block a woman from leaving a room? If a woman shoves a man who is blocking her way and refuses to move, I'd say he's the instigator, not the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:19 AM
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You seriously think that men standing up and taking off their hats outweighs the ability women now have to decide when they get pregnant (modern reliable contraception), to become educated and to be self-supporting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:50 AM
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What world are you living in where ALL child-rearing is communal? And how do you make pregnancy, child birth and breastfeeding communal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:33 PM
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Yes! Especially if there are minor children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:25 PM
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Ok, so you admit that your original post asserting that in divorce women get all the men’s assets was false, and that instead assets acquired during the marriage are divided equally. Thank you for admitting your incorrect legal assertion so readily. Community property recognizes that both the husband and wife contribute to the marriage and that the material things acquired during that time are joint assets because they are a new family unit and no longer two separate individuals. That is a funda…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:18 PM
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It's not half of a man's assets. In community property jurisdictions, It's half of the community property, which generally consists of the assets they acquired together during the marriage through their income (which is also a community property asset generally).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:47 PM
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Yes, most people are uncomfortable with the argument that men gave up rape so we women better get busy marrying men who you deem are our looksmatch and birthing babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:51 AM
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People are saying that because the implicit threat in your post is that if women don't start dating the men you think they should then men will use their "natural advantages" to force them. Plus you created a post that explicitly compares rape and women's freedom of choice. It's not normal to compare those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:12 AM
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Women have rights here and they still get raped--are you seriously denying that? And it's your position that it's a sacrifice for men not to rape. That is a seriously disturbing point of view. And men have always policed each other over rape. It was ok to rape and pillage during war because women were the spoils of victory. Raping your neighbor's wife--not ok because that damaged the husband's property. Rape has always been disfavored, it's in modern times that it's disfavored because it violate…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:10 PM
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It's an "advantage" that men created. You're acting like men have no control over their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:07 PM
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It absolutely does. You said have repeatedly argued that men gave up rape for betterment of society. That absolutely assumes both that men no longer rape and that men want to rape but are choosing not to for the betterment of society. Neither of those assumptions are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:02 PM
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No, it's very relevant. Most mothers have paid employment on top of all the responsibilities and work of child care. Most fathers don't do 50 percent of childcare even when his wife also works full time. Having fewer children makes sense under those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:46 PM
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No my position is that people having the freedom to choose who they date and marry is not immoral and not bad for society, and that rape is not remotely comparable to people having that freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:23 PM
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There is no factual basis for this claim. This is your opinion, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:19 PM
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First, average men and women are dating, marrying and having children. It is not only "top tier" men. Second, Western society values personal autonomy so men and women having the freedom to voluntarily enter into marriage with people they choose is good for society. Third, you are creating a false equivalence between women having the freedom to choose who they marry and reproduce with and rape. Fourth, your argument also falsely assumes that rape no longer happens. Fifth, your position also fals…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:16 PM
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Number 1, you edited your post. Number 2, you said that it's OK for men now to complain about not getting sex by directly comparing it to rape "feeling good." That is offensive to both men and women. Most normal men aren't comparing consensual sex to rape. The fact that you do is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:25 PM
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Yep. It's date me "voluntarily" or I'll use my strength to rape you. This OP is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:10 PM
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How is it immoral for women to date and marry men of their own choosing, where those men are also voluntarily choosing those women? There is nothing immoral about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:08 PM
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It sounds like what you mean by women using their "maximum advantage" is really just women being able to date and marry men they're interested in, as opposed to the men their families forced them to. marry. That is not remotely comparable to men using their "maximum advantage" of physical strength to rape women. It's very scary that you think those are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:04 PM
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Wanting kids is very different than being an active and involved father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:59 PM
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How do you know rape feels good? Have you raped someone? I imagine most normal men would not agree with you that violently penetrating a woman against her will "feels good ." Your comment is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:57 PM
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I'm curious what those 50 women might say about their experience dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:36 PM
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This argument totally ignores the demonization of women in mono-theistic religions, such as the biblical stories about Eve being the reason humans were cast out of paradise. That's a cultural filter that is very much still a part of messaging from some who claim to be RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:24 PM
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That's not what you wrote. You explicitly wrote that men are captains, women are either supporting first mates or pretty things to look at on lounge chairs on the captain's ship, which is in fact treating women as acessories to men. In the US at least, most people are no longer interested in pursuing such stereotypical gender-defined relationships. So your argument that this type of relationship most men want---captain/first mate--is not based on reality. It's not as you assert that 98% of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:06 PM
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This comment demonstrates that you view women as accessories to men and not as people with their own separate agency. You might have better luck dating if you didn't view women as simply warm bodies to cook, clean, look decorative, and support you in the background while you pursue your career, success, education or interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:34 PM
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From my perspective, the turn off is what you are describing as the "consequence," not the preference. And has been pointed about above, it's not accurate to minimize it as a mere preference when in fact it's a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 12:05 AM
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The difference is that even if we assume that every man's preference is sex on the first date, not every man has a policy to NEVER have a second date if there wasn't sex on the first date. That's what sets the guy in your OP apart. Whether it's phrased as a preference, demand or entitlement, many women are turned off by such a policy. The guy in the OP is free to have that policy, but the women he seeks to go out on a first date with are equally free to be turned off by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:31 PM
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Decisions about birth control options for couples are a matter for the couple to decide. Many men have no problem getting a vasectomy once he and his wife/girlfriend are finished having children in consideration of the fact that the woman has been through one or more pregnancies and a couple decades of hormonal birth control. Some men aren't, and then those couples need to find a compromise of some sort, as I explained above. No one is forcing men en masse to get vasectomies against their will. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:18 PM
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The way you say "we bend over backwards for women's postoartum depression" is both factually inaccurate and dripping with contempt for women. Both post partum depression and post partum psychosis are real medical conditions that happen to some women and that require treatment. It's a good thing that there's more awareness of these conditions so that women and their families know the signs and can get help soon if needed. Most husbands and wives love each other and want each other to be safe and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:55 AM
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So you can't even agree that a husband should let his wife know about his need for a paternity test before she is pregnant or in labor or understand why a pregnant or laboring woman might be upset by such a request made for the first time while she's already pregnant or laboring? Your position is that it's just for peace of mind, but piece of mind from what? From the possibility that your wife cheated and got pregnant, which if not an outright accusation, is certainly at a minimum a suggestion t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:08 AM
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It all depends on the context. It can be an accusation. If a husband asks for one for the first time while his wife is already pregnant or in labor, then yes, most women would consider that an accusation. If it's not an accusation and is the man's "policy" under any circumstances, he should tell the woman that early on and certainly before she's pregnant. Or do it in secret and when the result is that he's the father, which is most likely the case, never tell anyone that he did the test.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:08 AM
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I have no problem with men getting paternity tests. They are easily available in the US, Canada and UK. That's why it's unnecessarily repetitive to have weekly posts about them in this sub, with many men taking the opportunity to talk about how horrible women are. Just get the test--outside of France, no one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:33 AM
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Again not remotely relevant to OP. I'm sure there will be the weekly paternity fraud post soon too so you can spew your hatred of women soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:18 AM
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You compared what some women say in response to governmental restrictions on abortion to private conversations between couples regarding birth control options. And the suggestion that women en masse want to force men to get vasectomies against their will is hystrionic nonsense. edit to add: The conversation about birth control between couples implicates bodily autonomy for both the man and women: taking hormonal birth control/having IUDs inserted for decades and going through pregnancy(ies), chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:43 PM
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Classic moving of the goal posts when your analogy is demonstrated to be inapt. This post has nothing to do with paper abortions. But I'm sure there will be one soon enough, as there is typically one at least once a week, and you can seethe about how horrible and unfair women are then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:07 PM
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Are any laws being passed to require men to have vasectomies like the laws prohibiting abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:58 PM
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if you read my comment it specifically criticized the fact that no passenger called 911. Passenger refers to both men and women. And the article did not call out men. So peddle your hysterics and hatred of women elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:51 AM
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Women's teams don't do locker room interviews. It seems like you're just making things up to be angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:28 AM
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If you can't back up your point with examples of men's spaces that have been taken away to support your argument that their removal is the cause of male loneliness, then you're just ranting. The only one I know of is Boy Scouts, which I agree should be for boys only. But given how few girls actually wanted to join, and given that the molestation scandal hurt the Boy Scouts numbers far more than admitting girls, that alone cannot be the source of make loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:44 PM
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I can agree that there should be separate girl scouts and boy scouts. But the locker room example you gave does not fly because that is a work environment. And barring women reporter's prevents them from being able to do the job. How is a professional team's locker room where the players give interviews the type of man's space that would alleviate loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:36 PM
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Genuine questions: what male spaces are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:19 PM
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Really? More repulsive than murder, child abuse, torture, rape, child pornography, animal abuse, elder abuse, warfare?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:29 AM
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How is the mother "guilty" for staying around and raising her son? What is she "guilty" of?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:27 PM
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Oh ok, I misunderstood your use of "they" to refer to the people with a pattern of picking bad partners. Thank you for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:35 AM
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It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:23 AM
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First, I've seen it used repeatedly on this sub without restricting it to "patterns of picking bad partners." Second, accountability for repeat survivors of domestic violence would be getting mental health help to address any reasons there might be for their patterns. Third, it is insane that you think victims of domestic violence should be imprisoned. Most people who commit domestic violence don't even get imprisoned, but you want to lock up the victims? What criminal act did the victims commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:22 AM
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You honestly believe most women think they’re perfect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:50 PM
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"Then they wonder why we hate them." You know that hating an entire gender is not a logical or rational response to you supposedly being told women are magical and perfect, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:12 AM
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I can't speak for what "feminists claim" but I think the issue is that porn normalizes choking and slapping and other things so that people without much sexual experience think that's the norm, when in fact it is not. Instead, partners need to talk about whether they consent to choking and slapping before one partner unilaterally springs it on the other partner. Further, you are missing the point. If a woman wants to act out a "rape" scene, it is consensual and thus by definition not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:29 AM
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Fantasies are de facto consensual--the person fantasizing is in control. Rape by definition not consensual. Having a fantasy that likely derives from the tradition of repressing women's sexuality is absolutely not the same thing as actually wanting to be beaten up and raped against your will. edited
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:08 AM
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I did. He mentioned the wife was acting "chaste" so I figured OP was talking about specific sex acts like anal for example. But he, and others, indicated that wasn't the issue. Hence my curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:57 PM
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Gone through what specifically? I'm always curious what specific activities men are wanting to do that their partners did previously but don't want to do anymore. Do you have any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 09:59 PM
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So your argument is that women over 25 aka "post wall" need to be covered up completely and never leave the house so that men don't get depressed? You really think womens' only purpose is to be eye candy (and probably on demand sex dispenser) for men? Every time I think I've seen the most ridiculous argument on this sub, another even more ridiculous post pops up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:26 AM
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Since you are now making claims about nerve endings, are you conceding that you have repeatedly misstated what the most common type of FGM is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:06 AM
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He was still elected to office so any criticism of those comments had zero actual impact. I've already stated that I don't support circumcision.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 05:04 AM
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Although there have been a couple of legal cases where parents sued over differing opinions on circumcision, the vast majority of these decisions are made out of court by both parents. So your reference to legal standards is irrelevant. It is also mistaken because the "tender years"/default to mother doctrine is no longer the standard. And you are placing the blame entirely on mothers because your position is that it will not end until mothers stop requesting circumcision. There is no factual ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:29 AM
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Are you not aware that the soon to be new President in the US is on tape talking about grabbing women "by the pussy"? Men talking about women's breasts, ass and genitals has been and is the norm. And what does any of that have to do with circumcision, which I (a woman) do not support in any event.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:29 PM
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It's insane that you think fathers have no role or choice in deciding whether to have their child circumsized. It's a decision made by the parents together. I can't imagine a doctor performing a circumcision in the hospital at one parent's request when the other parent is there objecting. But yes, go ahead and make circumcision 100% the fault of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:06 PM
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Why do you keep repeating that only the hood is removed when that isn't what your own source, which you linked above, says?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:57 PM
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Your source says that in the most common form of FGM, the clitoris is pulled out, held and amputated. Your claim that only the hood is removed is false and contrary to your own source.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:51 PM
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You flat out said: "Voting logically not emotionally" and that voting for Harris because she is a woman is "an emotional vote."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:47 PM
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Leaving aside the inaccuracy of your claims that: (1) men are logical and women aren't and (2) the logical vote was Trump not Harris, plenty of women voted for Trump. So why aren't you satisfied that women are logical enough to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:11 PM
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Your opinion--that once a person has consented to sex with person A they can no longer refuse consent to others--is in fact a deplorable opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:17 AM
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A sexually liberated free spirit has just as much right to say no as a puritan virging. And saying no to a sexual encounter does not mean you are asking to be treated as a puritan virgin. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:12 AM
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This is justifying rape. If a person consents to sex with person a, b and c, that person loses the right to say no to person d? Under your "reasoning" it would not be rape to have sex with non virgins since they previously consented to sex with somebody else. Your comment is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:10 AM
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It's an unprovable and unproven anecdote that many women have breasts that are that are visible in t-shirts that are regular-fit (as opposed to slim fit)? You can't be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:59 PM
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Your repeated insults are rude, and I've given you no reason for it as I have debated civilly, which you seem incapable of. My original point way back when was that the way some RP men talk about "access to sex" in the context of dating is an example of treating women as resources and not as humans. You are now bringing up prostitution, which does in fact treat women as resources and not humans. Prostitution has nothing to do with sex in dating and relationships, which is what my original point …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:29 AM
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Your questions were angry and rude, particularly given that you hadn't been involved in the conversation previously. I genuinely wondered why you were so angry about my opinion that sex is different than medicine, housing and education. And now you're insulting me again as pathetic. So yes you seem angry, which is an emotion. I view sex to be a materially different activity than going to the doctor, going to school or renting an apartment in part because of the intimacy involved with sex that is…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 11:25 PM
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Why so emotional? This is a debate sub and I have just as much right to post my views as you do. What do you think you're accomplishing? You're free to talk about access to sex to your heart's content and I'm free to think it's a gross way to describe having consensual sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:44 PM
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Doesn't the woman showing up and having fun, interacting with you, etc count as effort? What would reciprocation be? Paying for the next date or part of the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:04 PM
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I would always split a first date unless the man insisted on paying. But you didn't answer my question: what do you think you should be ensured to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:57 PM
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I NEVER said it is dehumanizing to view women sexually. What I said is that talking about "access to sex" is dehumanizing because sex is not a resource to access. My point has nothing to do with women who are doctors, landlords or employers and your professional interactions with them. And again, you bringing them up misses the point. Housing, employment and medical care are resources. Sex is not a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:43 PM
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It seems pretty clear what you get--to be on the date with her and do the activity with her. Is there something else you believe you should be ensured to get? Look when I dated, I either split or switched off who pays, so I never insisted that a man pay. I dont believe the man should always pay for dates. And I advise women to do the same in part to avoid the issue you appear to be suggesting: some men who pay for dates feel like they should be guaranteed sex because they paid for your coffee, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:22 PM
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Well one glaring difference is that it is a teacher's job to teach, but it is not a woman's job to have sex with men, unless you are hiring a prostitute. Plus the fact that you think sex is just lije education proves my point that many men on this sub think women are resources not people. Education is in fact a resource. Sex, and the women with you have it, are not resources. Finally, education is provided to the student. Unless you are hiring a prostitute, women don't provide sex to men, it is-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:21 AM
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The way some RP men on this sub talk about "access to sex" is a prime example of treating women as resources and not humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:18 PM
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The framing you laid out there is biased and circular. You don't seem to understand that I understand Your position, but I disagree that paper abortion is equivalent to abortion. And correct, there is nothing else to say because we disagree and our positions are not aligned. Your condescension aside, has nothing to do with not "getting through" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:23 AM
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A majority of men in the real world as opposed to this sub and the men's rights sub? No. I've never seen it mentioned anywhere but on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:03 AM
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Why do people on this sub always have to resort to insulting the person they're debating's intelligence, comprehension etc ? It's such a junk debate tactic. I UNDERSTAND what you wrote. I just disagree because: (1) this wouldn't benefit all men because not all men want to not support their biological offspring: and (2) the venom I've seen directed on this sub at women and children receiving WIC etc benefits leads me to believe there would be plenty of men opposed to increasing their taxes to sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:35 AM
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Until men can become pregnant there can be no equivalent. Because with an abortion there is no baby, while with the "paper" abortion, there is a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:02 AM
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But instead, they'd be on the hook for kids that other men don't want. And RP men already complain about that; wouldn't they complain more about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:59 AM
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If you're talking about raising the age of consent above 18, then I think very few people would vote for that. If you're talking about raising the age of consent from 14 to anywhere between 16 and 18, then that would probably get more votes, and I think that's fine because no one in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and above should have sex with a 14 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:57 AM
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You already had a post about this. Yes the old farts, male and female, and the 18 year olds have the liberty to have sex with each other. Just as people who find that gross have the liberty to say "eeew" when they hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:52 PM
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Troll or raging psychopathic misogynist? I'm thinking the latter. Get help before you hurt someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:41 PM
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Be serious. Almost every day there's posts on this sub from Red Pill men complaining about their taxes going to help children, ie "welfare".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:32 PM
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There really isn't one because only a pregnant person/woman can have an abortion. Abortion means no baby is born. The only time a man can ensure no baby is born is before conception. Women have a longer time for that because they're the ones getting pregnant. Calling it a paper abortion is a complete fiction because abortion means no baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:23 PM
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Justifying murdering women is a new and disgusting low even for this sub. You're live up to the unhinged part of your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:13 PM
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The thing is, it isn't the SAME choice as the woman because only women can get pregnant. An abortion is defined as either the deliberate termination of a pregnancy or the expulsion of a fetus from the uterus by natural causes before it is able to independently survive. An abortion can only happen to a pregnant woman. So calling it a paper abortion is a complete misnomer because when an abortion happens, there is no fetus, no baby born. With a so-called paper abortion, the baby exists. The existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:07 PM
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I’ll pass on your unsolicited advice. I don’t live my life based on heavily critiqued evolutionary-psychology hypotheses. I interact in the real world, with real people, not pill-based caricatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:51 AM
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No it doesn't. If women thought relationships with men only brought trauma, women en masse would not date, have sex with or have relationships with men. That isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:13 PM
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Ah ok so you're one of those that believes women have no agency in their own lives and have no responsibilities. That is so far from reality. If that's what you think about women, why would you want to have any relationship with women at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:10 PM
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Are you saying that trauma from relationships causes positive outcomes for men, but negative outcomes for women? That is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:33 PM
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You believe it because you claim that men and women have inverse impacts from life experiences. And why would a red pill man spout negative statements about men that you don’t believe in? Isn’t it a red pill belief that you can’t believe what women say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 09:29 PM
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This statement means that relationships with men traumatize women and give them baggage/bullshit. Is that really what you believe? That is a very negative view of men--that they necessarily cause trauma and harm to women. If trauma, baggage and bullshit is the necessary result of being with men, which I do NOT believe, then women should hold off as long as is possible from relationships with men to avoid that harm. It certainly wouldn't mean that 18 to 22 year olds should be with decades older m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:26 PM
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Men absolutely are susceptible to trauma from bad relationship experiences to the same degree that women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:14 PM
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I only mentioned 14 year olds because you mentioned changing the age of consent from 14 to 16. Agree the 18-16 year old situation should not have been prosecuted and a 6 year sentence was absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:20 AM
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Well, we will agree to disagree re age of consent. I think it's needed and I agree with 18 as age of consent and with Romeo and Juliet laws. I don't think it's ever a reasonable choice for a 20, 30, 40 , 50 plus year old person to have sex with a 14 year old in 2024 in the Western world. Further just because a girl has reached the age of menstruation, happening frequently at under 10 now, I do not believe she is fair game for adults to sexually pursue. I also don't have any heartburn over the ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:01 AM
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I think for some people it can be generational. My parents were of a generation that sex and menstruation were never discussed. I tried to do better for my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:33 AM
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First, I think large age gap relationships can be problematic for both teen boys/very young men and teen/very young women. The fact that it's often seen as only problematic for teen girls/very young women reinforces inappropriate gender stereotypes about both men and women. Second, no I don't think that the young person/teen who chooses to be in a large age gap relationship is entitled to approval over their choice, just as the older person isn't. They have the legal right to make the decision, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:58 AM
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No I personally don't think you necessarily become jaded. I think with more life experience it can be easier to spot red flags or place appropriate personal boundaries. Jaded is a negative term and while some people do get jaded by life, many don't. As for easier to impress, yes I do find that problematic. If a person has to date a 18 to 22 year old person because they are unable to be on the same level as their people their one age, I think that disparity can lead to manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:53 AM
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Most US parents provide guidance to their teens and early 20s kids on all those topics. Most parents don't stop being a parent at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:37 AM
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18 year olds in the US are considered legally capable of consent to sexual acrivities. So yes 18 year olds have agency and assuming they freely consented without coercion and weren't raped, then yes it's legal for a 40 year old to have sex with them. So yeah if a 30 plus year old man (or woman) only wants to pursue 18 year olds, there's no law preventing it. But that isn't enough for these men or the men who obsessively and repeatedly post about large age gap relationships with 18 to 24 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:34 AM
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If they're more agreeable because they are 18 to 22 and don't know anything because of their youth, then yes it's a bad thing. It's essentially wanting to be with someone who's so inexperienced in life and relationships that they haven't formed their own opinions yet, which is a bad thing. And because the much older person is pursuing the much younger person on the theory that younger people are agreeable than older people of their gender simply because of their youth and lack of experience, tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:57 AM
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Women aren't describing their overall dating experiences as trauma. Instead what I've seen ad nauseum on this sub is Red Pill men saying they want 18 to 22 year olds because they believe such young women are more agreeable and easy to impress because they have less experiences in life, and have less "baggage" and "trauma" from prior relationships==thats the RP men's term.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:26 AM
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Essentially then you want women commenters to assume that every man who struggles with dating and who says negative and misogynistic things on line, is able to successfully hide that negativity and misogyny in all his interactions with women, so that can never be the cause of his dating struggles? That seems as unrealistic as anyone claiming that intuition is infallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:17 AM
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I'm not projecting ideas on to you--I asked questions because it seems weird to me to have a purple pill or red pill man saying there are scores of bad men out there who hide their misogyny well and women will never be able to tell. Also, I never said that women's intuition was infallible. I said the opposite so perhaps you're projecting your weird ideas on me. edit: fixed typo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:43 AM
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But what about when, as is often the case, the poster is actually saying things that are desperate, negative and misogynistic? Posts with desperation, negativity and misogyny are typically the ones that elicit the comments you object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:34 AM
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When you say "who knows how many you didn't catch", what is your point? Is it that most men secretly hate women but hide it well--that's a pretty negative view of men that I don't think is true. Is it that you are happy that some "bad" men pass the sniff test and women get hurt as a result--that's pretty disgusting. The reality is that gut feelings about people are not an exact science. Why are you demanding that it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:18 AM
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Ah ok. No Worries. Yes. u/MikeArrow did limit to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:24 AM
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I dont think that's accurate. There are plenty of men on this post saying women have everything easier than men, not just with respect to dating. Yes some have responded that it only applies to dating but there are many comments saying it applies to women's whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:15 AM
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It sounds like you are talking about white collar-type jobs. Is it your position that this happens in every white-collar field? If that was true, women would heavily dominate white collar positions, but that's not the case at all. Women and men are employed at roughly equal levels for entry and mid-level white collar jobs. And men, not women, predominate in management and executive level positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:04 AM
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It seems like you're assuming the male competitors are more qualified just because they're men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:06 PM
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it doesn't answer the question. I asked a question that was triggered by, but not answered by, your comment. Obviously you don't have to answer, but why not just say that rather than pretend the answer is in your comment when it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:10 PM
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Yep. You mentioned emotional damage and related it to lack of relationships and sex. Hence my question--are you saying women cause men emotional damage by not entering into relationships or having sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:45 PM
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So are you saying women cause men emotional damage when a woman doesn't have sex with a lonely man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:27 PM
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That is completely non-responsive to my comment. Also completely factually inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:31 PM
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You ignore all the other reasons, of course. Do the men that don't do that work also treat men as work horses simply because they dont choose to do that work either? How about the many men working office jobs who look down at manual laborers--do you call them out too? It seems like all your ire us directed at women. En masse women and men need each other to survive in society. No individual man or woman needs another man or woman in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:57 PM
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Thank you for agreeing that women can do everything men can. Your question assumes facts not in evidence: that women refuse to do so. What is your factual basis for the claim that women REFUSE to do so? There is none. If you look at the US in WW2, women filled these types of jobs. Im sure there are many reasons why there are more men in those fields than women. One reason is that women have not been welcome in those fields and have faced harassment and worse when trying to enter. Another reason …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:19 PM
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The claim that men as a group produce and women only consume does not in any way tell the whole story. It essentially invalidates women-dominated fields, such as in all areas of medicine, teaching, child-care, elder-care etc. as worth-less and not necessary to the way our society functions. Plus, it ignores the fact that women with families generally do the purchasing for most everyday items for the whole family. The bottom line is that both men and women produce and create value for society, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 09:00 PM
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Women are capable of doing all those things. Women have worked in factories as long as there have been factories. And with respect to creating electrical grids are you really claiming that there are no women scientists and engineers who participated and continue to participate in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:42 PM
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Ok, if we are talking about what men and women CAN do, then women can do all the things that keep society running too, with can meaning be able to do. Yes an individual woman has less upper body strength generally than most men, but women can work together to overcome that. And yes, the fields that OP mentions in the post are currently male-dominated fields. But that does not mean women cannot do that work and cannot learn those skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:36 PM
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This post and many of the responses are saying men don't need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:52 PM
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First, saying "I don't need no man" Is not the same thing as saying men are useless. Second, many men do say that women are useless. In fact, this post says that women ARE useless except for their penetrable orifices and their uteri, in comparison to men. But I'm glad we can agree that people, both men and women, should express gratitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:36 PM
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This is the first time you've stated thst you don't have an issue with women who say they don't need a husband or boyfriend. That was not clear from your comments. In fact, your prior comments said women needed to express gratitude for men, or act grateful for men (or words to that effect). Do you also think men should express gratitude for women, or act grateful for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:03 PM
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A woman saying she doesn't need a boyfriend or husband is saying just that. And that statement can in fact be true depending on her circumstances. It sounds like you're just upset that many women in fact don't need a husband or boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:50 PM
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Are you saying a woman needs a man in her romantic or sexual life? It's been explained to you repeatedly that that is what women typucally mean mean they say they don't need a man. So are you saying it's a lie that a woman doesn't need a man romantically/sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:40 PM
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Men who are income-qualified are able to get WIC benefits for children in their homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:54 PM
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Don't forget about Eve, in the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:40 PM
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So great, we agree that women have always been productive, creative and an asset to society. Are you claiming women have always had freedom and equality? Because that simply isn't the case. Feminism is responsible for the freedom and equality women in Western countries have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:52 PM
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Women have always been productive, creative and an asset to society. Feminism was intended to create equality and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:39 PM
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I don't think he cares how painful it would be. It's all about attempting a gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:43 AM
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RP may disagree with how to solve mental health issues But the post is saying government spending does not address any issues that affect men and the spending is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:06 PM
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Ok. I disagree 100%. But I appreciate the civil debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:53 PM
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One word answer to what this is: misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:35 PM
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The men and women who pay taxes though aren't receiving the welfare; the welfare goes to other people. Taxes aren't a direct exchange of money and goods between payee and government. Let's play your theory out. Should low income men receive "prostitute vouchers" instead of food stamps or housing vouchers then? Or are you saying that men who pay taxes should receive a "prostitute voucher" (or AI equivalent) in exchange for their taxes since they don't qualify for welfare? And what would women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:19 PM
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Welfare is not about providing women with what they want. Welfare is income based and is available to both low income men and women. Taxes aren't based on gender, they are based on income. Equating providing food stamps to help keep children and adults from starvation with getting sex is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:39 PM
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Similarly, eligibility for welfare is income-based, not gender-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:34 PM
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None of them are. Plus OP conveniently ignores the government spending on homelessness and mental health (which RP on this sub say is a male issue). For example, California spends sbout $72 billion on homeless issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:22 PM
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Agreed. I've had this debate before. It almost feels like those who crow about "female accountability" are gleeful when a woman is abused because she didn't choose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:42 PM
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To me the question: is at fault for what. If a person gets into multiple abusive relationships, that person should stop dating and get therapy to see if there's a pattern happening and what the root cause is. As an example, people who grow up in abusive families sometimes repeat that in adult relationships because it is what they grew up with and think it's normal. Such a person should take accountability by getting mental health help. However, that person is not responsible or at fault for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 07:37 PM
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And yet you keep responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 05:29 AM
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Another insult, plus a lie about not posting insults. In fact, several of your posts were removed for violating the rule on insults and personal attacks and you've continued today. I decided not to report them and instead have them stay up to show your bad faith tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:29 AM
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More insults. A better question is why are you still insulting me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:32 AM
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And telling someone settle down lady is compelling, substantive or rich? No it's negging (another form of an insult). If you keep insulting me, I will keep calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:29 AM
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Back to condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:20 AM
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We could have stopped if you had simply said I agree to disagree or something similar. But you started in with the insults and speculation last night and you have continued all day. I've continued to call you out on it because I didn't feel l like letting that crap slide. If you're done insulting me then yes, there's nothing left to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:15 AM
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I argued in bad faith? That's rich. I provided evidence to support my position when we started this debate. You never provided any. Instead of saying I'll agree to disagree with you, you instead began a barrage of insults and weird speculation about my personal life that is both irrelevant and incorrect. How is that in good faith? And if it's such a waste of your time, why do you keep posting insults and speculation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 12:08 AM
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So it's being defensive to ask you to stop insulting me and stop making false accusations about my life? I'll keep calling you out as long as you keep insulting and speculating about me. That's not being defensive. It's called not putting up with bad faith (and frankly bullshit) tactics that you can't seem to stop employing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:59 PM
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You just can't stop with the insults and speculation can you? Strange behavior from a person who doesn't care. Why you care, and why you continue with the insults and false speculation, though, is more interesting question at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:53 PM
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Another deflection tactic--I wrote too much so it must be wrong. And your lack of civility and basic decency was apparent the first time you insulted me. It's curious why you are even on this sub if a woman debating you is so triggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:48 PM
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Of course, you know my life better than I do, lol. If you don't care why do you continue to speculate? You might want to give some thought as to why you are so triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:43 PM
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I responded to separate posts and comments. There was no spamming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:31 PM
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Why are you so convinced that I'm a single parent? And now I'm self-centeted because I think it's strange how many you posts you've made speculating about and insulting my personal life? And again with you insulting me. For someone who "doesn't care" your posts seem very invested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:26 PM
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Are you talking about me again and your false assumptions about my life, my alleged poor choices, my alleged hard life as a single parent? All of that is made up revenge fantasy on your part. It's really strange how wedded you are to your false beliefs about me. But even more strange that you think you know anything about my personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:53 PM
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Same question back at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:47 PM
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This is revisionist history. This is purple pill debate, where self-identified RP people debate people who aren't RP. I did not come up with those terms or labels. You came here and posted on a debate sub of your own volition. I do not agree with RP beliefs so I debate posts espousing RP points. For example, I do not agree with posts that making sweeping generalizations about women en masse failing to be accountable or responsible; that girls and women en masse are told they are wonderful and ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:43 PM
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I don't believe I've ever said in a post on here whether I was or wasn't a single parent so I'm not sure why you are so adamant on bringing that (irrelevant point) up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:59 PM
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Well you claimed that my posts are dumping on men and I asked you to provide evidence of that. And you couldn't. So thank you for conceding that point too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:38 PM
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If you don't care, why do you keep bringing up your negative speculations about my life? I'm amused about how triggered you are, triggered to the point where you are creating a negative fantasy world where my life is filled with bad choices and "suck-ness" (which couldn't be more wrong). Re the pills, I think they're stupid too hence the no pill in my profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:36 PM
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The ones that failed to cite any evidence? Thank you for conceding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:27 PM
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What bad life choices? That's your revenge fantasy. If you don't care why do you keep insulting me about your made up theories of my life? Also, I'm not incensed. I'm amused by how triggered, hateful and unhinged your responses are getting. And I'm curious to see how low you will go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:24 PM
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I have never ONCE in this debate dumped on men. I've simply pointed out that YOUR dumping on women lacks any factual or evidentiary basis. And that has somehow triggered an outpouring of speculation, insults and ad hominum on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:16 PM
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Again absurd speculation and insults. If you don't care why do you keep creating revenge fantasy scenarios about my life? Why can't you instead explain why a woman who chooses to stay and raise a child after her partner leaves isn't taking responsibility for her choices, which is the claim you made? Why can't you state what specifically she is supposed to do to take responsibility in a way that would satisfy you and the RP men that repeatedly make this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:14 PM
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Some of the questions in that study that RPers always cite as their gotcha asked about lifetime intimate partner violence. Because lesbians sometimes are involved with men before coming out, some experience IPV from male partners too, not just female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:04 PM
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Rank speculation on your part on my marital status and parental status. And pure seething misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:21 PM
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Actually, telling someone on a debate forum (who never insulted you) to put a cork in her baby making hole is most definitely not ok. But I do appreciate you laying your misogyny bare, especially because you claim to be a liberal leaning man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:05 PM
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And you're demonstrating that it wasn't sarcasm at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:00 PM
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Adding condescension to your bag of tricks. Spectacular indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:27 AM
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Wow, what a clever come back. You just love making personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:24 AM
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If that was sarcasm, great, but that certainly wasnt clear. I asked whether you were serious but you declined to give a straight answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:21 AM
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Lol. You've heard it here folks, a woman having the audacity to debate a man assertively, but civilly and without resorting to personal attacks or attacking men in general, is evidence that women caused the downfall of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:16 AM
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I thought you weren't upset? Lol. Nice, logical liberal man here losing his cool because a woman has dared to debate him on a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:07 AM
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It's a yes or no question, which you didn't answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:05 AM
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So you're complaining that women need to take responsibility for "picking" the wrong men to reproduce with and asserting that raising the child(ren) does not constitute taking responsibility for that choice. But you can't articulate what would constitute taking responsibility for the choice in a fashion you'd find acceptable? That just sounds like you want to criticize. I'm not responding to your speculation about my personal life. It's inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:55 AM
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Is the last paragraph a poor attempt at humor or are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:43 AM
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But what exactly do you expect a person to do if the choice they made turned out ultimately not to be a good one to show that they accept responsibility? And stop referring to me and my alleged choices. That is wholly inappropriate. You got upset when someone said that you were a boomer but here you're insinuating all sorts of negative things about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:29 AM
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First, I'm not mad. This is a debate . I am allowed to disagree with the positions of others and provide evidence disproving those positions, which is what I've done here. Second, your response mischaracterizes my points and minimizes the impact of women being cast for the past 2000 plus years as the source of humans fall from grace. Third I never said only women were relegated to villain roles. You are the one who took the all or nothing position by claiming essentially that only men are portra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:23 AM
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I have not insulted you despite you doing that to me. And are you accusing me of being unable to understand my personal responsibility because you know nothing about me. And if so that is yet another insult. And you didn't answer my question--how is staying around to take care of her kids not understanding and accepting her responsibility for her decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 06:00 AM
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Yeah he's exhibiting every bad faith debate technique in the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:51 AM
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Another insult, wow, how original. A mother with full custody of her kids, paying the bills, working and raising her kids is by definition taking responsibility. She can't go back and change what happened, but she's there every day for her kids. How in the world is that not taking responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:43 AM
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Your original point was that boys are taught from a very young age that they are villains and that girls are taught they're wonderful, and that 99% of villains are men and kids are taught that. So yes, things like fairy tails are relevant since they are taught to children. Evidence: The Bible (also taught to children); evil witches in all the traditional Hans Christian Anderson stories; evil stepmother stories and Disney movies; Baba Yaga etc. Pretty much every culture has stories with women as …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:30 AM
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Again, thanks for conceding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:04 AM
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You're claiming the Bible is no longer relevant because it's old? It's still taught every day. It's themes redonate in modern movies and literature. People raised in traditiponal Catholic and Christian households are currently being taught that the pain of menstruation and childbirth are punishments to women from God for Eve's original sin; and that men need to have control over women because of Eve's original sin. It's absolutely still relevent to modern times. Also, Eve was described as a huma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:57 AM
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Right, because liberals are always talking about how it's all the mother's fault that the father is a deadbeat because she choose poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:41 AM
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Hmm, you provided no evidence whatsoever for your claim about men always being portrayed as villains and yet you claim to have won the point? That's not how debates work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:19 AM
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I agree that religion's assertion that women caused the fall from grace is nonsense. But the Bible clearly exists--or are you denying that? And if you are seriously claiming that the story of Eve doesn't portray women as the villain then you are the one saying "nuh uh."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:10 AM
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Thank you for conceding that you have no support for your claim that men are victims because they're always portrayed as villains. Better luck next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:05 AM
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And you ignoring my points, shifting the argument to new issues, and insulting my ability to read (when I am clearly not illiterate) just because you don't agree with me (and are unwilling to admit that your claim that men are portrayed as villains and not women is wrong) doesn't further your argument either. I could insult you too but I choose not because it isn't a valid debate tactic and it's lazy. Plus it's a sure sign you've lost the point by resorting to ad hominum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:50 AM
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I was waiting for it--the favored tactic of red pill men: insult women's intelligence and reading skills. It's not my fault you wrote something demonstrably false (i.e. men are 99 % villains), a complaint you made after someone pointed out that men are 99% of the heroes and a point you were making to try to show that men are victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:32 AM
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Again, you are shifting focus away from the fact that you donned the victim mantle and complained that villains are 99% percent of the time men, not women. I demonstrated that in one the foundational documents underlying the Western World--the Bible--women are the villains who caused humans to be cast out of paradise and have to suffer. You have no response to that because there can be none as it's verifiable true. So you instead shifted focus to the fact that there are nice and pretty princesse…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:19 AM
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No one said all women are portrayed as villains. You were the one claiming all villains are men--which is clearly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:03 AM
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Classic moving the goal posts. I was explicitly responding to your blatantly false claim that 99% of villains are men. I said nothing about victimhood--that's your projection and your view of men and women. Not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:01 AM
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It's comical that you apparently think husbands never rape or kill their wives and that those crimes are only committed upon single women by their boyfriends. That's not logical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:56 PM
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That is demonstrably false. A couple examples: the Bible teaches that women are evil--see Eve and original sin. According to that story, a woman is the cause of humans being cast out of paradise. Most of the fairy tales and stories told to young children feature women--the trope of the evil witch, evil stepmother--as the villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:46 PM
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What are you talking about it being 100% on the woman legally if she is pregnant and not married? The RP men on this sub are constantly complaining about being liable for child support and wanting "financial abortions" in such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:17 PM
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He is the one recently posted that women are incapable of logical thought. A real peach of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:05 PM
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Who calls an 18 year old doing Only Fans empowered? That's not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:08 PM
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Just FYI plenty of women are still sexual after menopause. .So no sex isn't temporary for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:56 PM
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There are a lot of things to dislike about California Governor Newsom, who is becoming nationally prominent, but he does speak about two issues often mentioned on this sub as male issues: homelessness and mental health. California has about 172,000 people who are homeless and spends approximately $7.2 billion a year on the issue. California also spends about $6.7 billion a year on mental health. Now whether this spending is efficient or effective is subject to debate. But the fact remains that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:04 PM
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I'm very curious about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:30 PM
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You know what, I was relying on an earlier article. I apologize and will delete my other comment. It's a sad statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:59 PM
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So you admit seeing the posts and comments from a "bunch of dudes". There's the proof. You just choose to characterize it as them not being "upset". Your characterization of the posts and comments, which explicitly discuss the 4b movement, does not refute the existence of those posts and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:56 PM
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https://www.statista.com/chart/33408/female-male-us-voters-exit-polls/ Try this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:32 PM
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The article shows there was only one group of women voters where a majority voted for Trump. Maybe you only read the headline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:30 PM
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Your own article demonstrates that the only group of women where a majority of voters voted for Trump was in a particular age group of white women. Maybe you only read the headline? You debunked nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:27 PM
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If you want to deny the existence of those posts on this sub--some of which I believe you've even commented on--it just provides further evidence of your bad faith debate tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:23 PM
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55 percent of white women who voted did not vote for Trump. A small majority of white women in one age group demographic voted for Trump. Get your facts straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:58 PM
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On this sub, it's also repeatedly aimed at women who have been subject to domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:37 PM
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Well they're certainly on this sub. Since last Wed there are multiple posts a day from RP men complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:34 PM
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52% of white women voters did not vote for Trump. That stat only applies to a particular age group of white women voters. Get your facts straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:32 PM
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52 percent of all white women voters did not vote for Trump. Get your facts straight. That statistics only applied to a particular age group of white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:08 PM
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The majority of all women voters voted for Harris not Trump. There was one age group of white women where a slight majority of white women voted for Trump. This sub needs to get it's facts straight and stop lying that the majority of women voters voted for Trump--they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:03 PM
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In community property states, its not half his stuff. It's half of the assets they both acquire during the marriage, i.e. their stuff, not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:23 AM
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First, it's not half of women. It was approximately half of whitevwomen in a particular age group who voted. Second, it's not a sexist attack for women to say they aren't going to fuck men. Third, i have no problem with men venting and saying they dont want to date or have sex with women because they dont want to risk getting a woman pregnant. The problem is when it goes from venting to calling for women to be raped or have their rights taken away, etc. And fourth, re your excuse for being trigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:15 AM
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Of course, the first line of attack for red-pill leaning men, insult the intelligence of the person you're debating. So unoriginal. Yes, you said many women but your post is still a very broad brush. It's not "so many" women blaming men, it's a fraction of some women on Reddit. You're also conveniently ignoring the many posts on women-oriented subs talking about the percentage of white women voters who voted for Trump. People who voted for Harris are disappointed and upset. Some of those people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:43 AM
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And yet here you are saying women en masse are hypocrites and sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:04 AM
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The thing is though, a person can have chronic depression or crippling anxiety whether they're in a relationship or not. It's not just an issue for people who are single. So I just don't think it proves the point you're trying to make. I also think that taking the stigma away from taking prescribed meds for mental health would benefit both men and women and maybe even help lower suicide rates. My bottom line is that I hate to see taking prescribed medicine as some sort of gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:18 PM
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How are men en masse being punished?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:47 PM
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Why does the RP criticize women for taking medication prescribed by doctors to adress their mental health issues? And then, the RP complain that more men succeed in committing suicide than women. Maybe if people stopped shaming those who take meds for mental illness, it might lead to less suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:01 PM
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It's so interesting how all the RPers resort to insulting the person they're debating when they lack evidence to support their claims. You twist yourself into contortions in speculating that the criteria really isn't neutral and that the homeless men lack qualifying conditions. And again without providing a shred of evidence. The most obvious potential explanation for the 60/40 percentages is that probably fewer men apply and not that there is systemic sexism blocking them from applying. But tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 12:45 AM
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I think chasing teenagers is the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:08 PM
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I didn't tacitly admit anything. And your statement that "more women are able to show income to apply for SNAP food vouchers" makes no sense. It's the lack of income, i.e. income below a certain level, that qualifies a person--man or woman-- for the program. The income qualification is the same for single adults, whether man or woman. You made the claim that SNAP shows systemic bias against men and you have failed to back that up with any evidence. Nor can you because the requirements for eligib…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:35 PM
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I have no idea how you got that from my comment. You claim that the fact that 60ish percent of SNAP recipients are women compared to about 40ish percent ofcrecipients as men reveals systemic discrimination against men by feminists/women/the government. That is false because eligibility is income dependent and not gender based. And SNAP isn't "income" as in a cash payment. It provides food vouchers. Low income men are eligible just as low income women are. It is not an example of bias against men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:52 AM
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Eligibility for SNAP is based on income not gender. It's not women's fault if low income men don't apply for SNAP benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:08 PM
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You're seriously comparing working a job under the table to avoid paying taxes and child support to getting an unsafe medical procedure that can. potentially kill the woman? What you "did there" is attemp a ridiculous and non-sensical analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:48 PM
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It is a valid response to your post, which presents your feelings not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:47 AM
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If people are repeatedly "litigating" the definition of the words you're using, it's because you're not using the words correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:29 PM
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Correction: men find attractive women attractive even if they're wearing sweats and have their hair tied up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:27 PM
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For many men on this sub, it's always about sex with the mythical Chad. edit: fixed typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:03 PM
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Wow, now I'm smug and dishonest as well as lacking self-awareness? Why is it so hard for you to debate someone without resorting to insults, negging and unfounded speculation about a person who disagrees with you? Even if you take the routinely out, my point still stands. Women in general do not tell their men that they had frequent and better sex with their exes. And you have provided no evidence to show that they do. Unless maybe your only "evidence" is your negative view of women, which isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:31 PM
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Why do RP'ers always resort to personal insults and negging? And aren't you claiming you're right? Somehow that's ok, but me thinking my point is valid is not? I'm more than capable of conceding a valid point. Your claim that women routinely tell their men they had lots of better sex with their ex is not a valid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:01 PM
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It is a much more reasistic scenario that a woman, when asked by a current partner for anal, might decline, and say she did it previously and didn't like it or it was too painful. It strains credulity to claim that women frequently tell their current partners, hey, BTW, I used to have "frequent and enthusiastic" sex with my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:46 PM
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How in the world would you know if she had frequent and enthusiastic sex with an ex? Just because she's not a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:16 PM
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No. If women treated all men as potential rapists, women wouldn't have any intimate relations with men or marry men, or even be friends with men. Some women are cautious with strangers, which is smart and something men should probably do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:51 PM
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This question is asked repeatedly by RP'ers as an attempted gotcha for situations where a woman tried something sexually with a past partner, presumably didn't like it, and doesn't want to do it again with a new partner. The new partner is now upset that they're not getting "access" to what the prior partner did. It's a stupid analogy, comparing dinners out to, for example, painful anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:13 PM
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Oh my God dude. I don't hate men and I don't post on Two X. You seem very emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:43 AM
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What I said was that more than infinitesimal amount of women are raped by men and that rape of women is not urban legend . It's pretty ridiculous that you dispute either of those facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:32 AM
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Keep moving those goal posts. your point was that women beingvraped is an urban legend. I repeat, it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:26 AM
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More than an infinitesimal amount of women are raped. Are you seriously disputing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:09 AM
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I love how the OP posed the question to men and women. But whenever a woman answers the question, men jump in to tell her she's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:48 AM
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Then by this reasoning I assume you'd be ok with women treating every man as a potential rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:36 AM
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Now you're moving the goal posts. You claimed rape of women is an urban legend. It is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:14 AM
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Vasectomies don't cause impotence, which is the inability to have an erection. It causes a man to not release sperm and only release semen when he ejaculates, hence he can't get a woman pregnant. Men with vasectomies absolutely can have erections and are thus not impotent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:42 AM
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Well, the Gisele Pelicot trial happening now in France--where over 50 men raped her unconscious body--is certainly not urban legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:14 PM
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If you're assuming that, then why are you only considering the man's hard work and not the wives'? If the man's hard work shows love, doesn't the woman's too?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:27 PM
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You're assuming none of those men have wives that also work low paying jobs. That assumption is not based on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 05:52 PM
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I don't have a problem with sex. That's a strawman. I have a problem with coercive and abusive conditions that many prostitutes deal with, as in the story that was linked. I'm glad your friend doesn't have to deal with that but many aren't so lucky even where it is legalized. You're apparently ok with situations as in the article. I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:32 PM
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Does the "everyone who lives life as normal" include the prostitutes? You have no way of knowing the true living and working conditions of the women in the brothel. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:38 PM
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But somehow it's OK for RP men presume to know how women feel or what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:10 PM
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I think it’s bizarre too. I certainly don’t do it. But I don’t think a woman is necessarily a slut just because she does it. That’s all; just a difference of opinion. Thank you for your civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:23 AM
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I did not imply that. I was simply short-handing thirst trap as showing skin. That may be a generational thing as I suspect I we are from different generations and my generation doesn’t really use “thirst trap”. The “and” is that I agree with the commenters statement that your definition of slut is aggressive because it includes women who may not even be sexually active but who post pictures that you characterize as thirst traps and because it includes monogamous women in LTRs who engage in kink…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:10 AM
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I do not think women showing skin is inherently sexual; that's you. You are defining slut to include a woman who may not even be sexually activev just because of the pictures she posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:46 PM
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So a monogamous woman who engages in kink with her partner is a slut? And a woman is a slut just because she posts pics that show skin even if she's not actually having sex? That is aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:30 PM
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Your response in essence: baseless insults about intelligence and reading comprehension; seething anger; misstating my arguments and arguing against irrelevant points I never made; asserting patently absurd arguments like all or most women are attracted to serial killers; outright contempt and hatred of women. What a classic example of RP histrionics. And yet in all of that bluster you still failed to say what exactly it is RPers think women aren’t taking accountability for. You have still faile…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:05 PM
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It's crazy how triggered you are by the simple biological fact that it takes a man and a woman both to get pregnant. How exactly is it being adult and accountable to take the position that only the woman is responsible for becoming pregnant? You are also misinformed re the abortion restrictions. 19 states have draconian first trimester bans and an additional 5 have second trimester prohibitions. RPers spew this nonsense about women having no accountability for anything in their lives. It's compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:06 AM
1

Enjoying a fictional book is not the same thing as being attracted to toxic men IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:31 PM
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You do know that a woman doesn't get pregnant all on her own right? And that in almost half the states in the US women have no choice whether or not to abort? And that the father has an obligation to raise the child just like the mother? Is there anything in the world that isn't the fault of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:27 PM
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Excellent observation. They are somehow masters of the universe while simultaneously being unable to master their own domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:05 PM
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Re your last sentence--Of course there are unattractive men who are of good character. Who has trouble admitting that? The problem is the false dichotomy being incessantly repeated on this sub: only attractive men are abusive, unattractive men would never be abusive, and women deserve the abuse they receive because they had the audacity to be with a person they initially found physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:38 PM
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That may be what some mean when they say that. But the majority of RPers making that argument are saying it in the context of not being picked, i.e., the old saw that women reject "nice guys" in favor of abusive bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:42 PM
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I mean that's the argument made repeatedly on this sub by RPers about women who have been subject to domestic violence and even rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:47 PM
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So your position is that male lawyers are victims of their lazy former wives? That is delusional. Edit to add: The systemic bias against women in the legal field is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:29 AM
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Law school admissions are about 55%women. Are you saying because there's a slight majority that automatically translates into a bias in favor of female law students? That's not the metric. Which gender makes up most of student clerkships? Law review editors? On campus interviews? And yes what happens in the actual practice of law is relevant and it is decidedly male dominated in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:36 AM
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What things?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:56 AM
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Are you claiming there's a bias against men in law school or the legal field? That is not true. Men make up the vast majority of equity partners in law firms and other senior positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:55 AM
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What do you think the biggest change is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:52 AM
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Choking should not be considered a vanilla, standard sex move. It's potentially very dangerous and even fatal. Enthusiastic verbal consent should always be sought before choking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:56 AM
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The post I was responding to was speculating that "obese middle aged women" can go on a dating app and get "flooded" with male attention. I have no idea what the true intentions of these hypothetical men are. But given the vitriol against overweight women (aka "land whales") and middle aged women (aka "past their expiration") that is spewed by RP'ers on this sub, it strains credulity to argue that overweight middle aged women on dating apps are drowning in men seeking relationships. But hey, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:50 AM
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I along with other posters listed the additional rights rights at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:27 PM
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Exactly. What "power" does an overweight woman have simply because some man may want to have sex with her? How does that alleged "power' translate into anything of value in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:44 PM
2

And women! There are plenty of chubby couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:42 PM
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If it was about being pro-life, women wouldn't have to be dying of sepsis to obtain needed health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:28 PM
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Why do we have to ignore tge loss of the right to abortion? It's a huge loss. But in any event, the concurrence in Dobbs put the right to birth control, same sex marriage and inter racial marriage in question. Project 2025 also threatens those rights. Some red states are criminally investigating miscarriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:26 PM
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It was his picks that led to the overturning. Plus Trump has repeatedly taken credit for the overturning based on his Supreme Court picks. At least be factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:12 PM
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Do you bother with women then? I assume not given your stated belief that they are dishonest, unprincipled cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:58 PM
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What in your view are men's natural sexual advantages and how are they being hindered?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:48 PM
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Claiming that the housing crisis is the fault of women has to be a new low for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:05 AM
1

What do you mean not granting paternity requests? If you're speaking about the US, there is no prohibition on men requesting and receiving a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:34 AM
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You have provided no credible source for the claim that paternity fraud is the case for over 30% of all births.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:37 PM
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One out of every four men is not the victim of paternity fraud. That's a blatant over-exageration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:28 PM
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The plan would be for the dad, as determined by the paternity test, to co-parent the child with his ex-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:15 PM
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That's not what single father means. Typically the term applies to a parent, mother or father, who has sole custody, with the non-custodial parent having limited or no involvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 09:14 PM
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It’s always interesting when men complain about workplace deaths for men—mind you such deaths are awful and worker safety should be prioritized—yet ignore the millions of women who have died, and continue to die, from childbirth. But that doesn’t count because it isn’t paid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:36 PM
3

Musk doesn't need op ed space. He owns X. That is a massive platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:10 PM
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Examples in current US Politics: Republican VP nominee agreeing that "whole purpose of post menopausal women" is to watch grandchildren; Republican Pres nominee sharing a post about oral sex implying that's how VP Harris succeeded in her career Examples in Aghanistan: the male leaders' bans on education beyond elementary school for girls/women; bans on women working outside the home, traveling without a man, owning businesses, speaking or singing in public, etc. Examples in sports: KC Chiefs' pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:01 PM
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You think that sexist men are relegated to the sewers? Be serious. And no to 1 through 3 and 4, it depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:48 PM
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No. He probably thinks the victim did something to make the rapist rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:47 PM
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Are you really blaming women who have survived sexual assault for being sexually assaulted? That is not "actually" true. The rapist exercises his (or her) free will in choosing to rape. The rapist is 100% responsible. Period. Yesterday there were RP men arguing in the post about Gisele Pelicot that it was reasonable for men to have sex with her unconscious body. RPers make comments like this and in the next breath complain that women are cautious with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:42 PM
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No one here is arguing men had an obligation to report it, just that they had an oblugation not to rape her. I'm sure there will be another post soon about how women aren't entitled to having someone call 911. Those are posted every week. So you can go off then. That isn't what this OP is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:23 PM
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No we're suggesting that a woman is entitled not to be drugged to unconsciousness and raped by strangers who gave her STIs and physical injuries, while her husband took video after finding the rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:38 PM
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There was no interaction between the woman and her rapists because she was unconscious. She was incapable of giving even implied consent through her actions because she was unconscious. Plus the articles say that the husband told the men to stop if she showed signs of waking up, which is a clear sign it was not consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:03 PM
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There you go inventing facts again. Are you suggesting she consented but doesn't remember? That is contrary to the evidence. The husband admitted he drugged her to unconsciousness and that he did these things without her knowing. That is rape. And again is not reasonable under the law to assume that an unconscious person that you have never spoken to consented to sex with you. Your responses are encouraging rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:57 PM
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You edited your reply to add that last sentence. You're saying that a lot of women are into being drugged to unconsciousness and being raped by countless men, some of whom caused injuries that required medical treatment and gave her STIs? If you aren't a troll, you are a very dangerous person who should be on a watch list. And how predictable, you downvoted again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:41 PM
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You will probably downvote this too, but it needs saying. The evidence shows that this woman never consented at any point to any of these men. The evidence shows that this woman was unconscious every time. This wasn't swinging. And you are inventing facts to claim that it was. I'm not putting my head in the sand. Every legitimate kink scene is based on consent, even consensual-non-consensual, 24/7, D/s, Master/slave, etc. If "progressive" on consent means consent is never given in any manner at …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:13 PM
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This was not shared sex. This was a decade of men raping an unconscious woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:32 PM
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This is exactly right. The books do not portray bdsm accurately at all. BDSM is based on explicit consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:15 PM
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It is neither subjectively nor objectively reasonable to believe a person who is unconscious, and also who you have never spoken to obtain consent, has consented to sex. That is NOT how kink works. Kink is based on affirmative consent. Comments like yours show why education on consent is important and also demonstrates that some men in fact do need to be taught not to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:06 PM
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Fucking an unconscious women is never acting in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:36 PM
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How could they be duped into having sex with an unconscious woman's body? Even if they went there thinking they'd just be participating in a gang bang or whatever, the moment they saw she was unconscious and went through with it anyway, they became a rapist. For the people thinking the men could have been duped, ask yourself, would you have gone through with having sex with her unconscious body?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:04 AM
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That is not how legitimate stingers and bdsm participants do it. Consent is important and enforced. She was unconscious. Your comments are proving the OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:25 AM
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She was unconscious. Normal men, even swingers and bdsm types, will balk at fucking a woman who is unconscious. Your responses are pure rape apology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:22 AM
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She was drugged to the point of unconsciousness. So I think it would be a stretch for them to claim it was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:35 AM
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I have never said don't trust any man ever nor do I believe that is what the majority of women believe. If that was what the majority of women believed, women would not date, marry, work with or be friends with men. They would never be alone with any man. That's plainly not the case. Explain how a woman being cautious with a strange man is placing blame on that man? Is it your position that a man has the right to every woman he meets being friendly and trusting? We repeatedly hear on this sub th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:24 AM
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Is there anything that isn't womens' fault according to the RPers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:44 AM
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Exactly. Many RPers on this sub believe (incorrectly) that pretty much all rape accusations by women are lies. So let's talk about the rape and molestation of boys that happened by a coach at Penn State and the rape and molestation of male hockey players by coaching staff at the Chicago Blackhawks. Both of those incidents were covered up for years by those institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:52 PM
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It's very possible to believe something happened even if 12 people on a jury conclude that the state didn't meet its burden to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:10 PM
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What in your view would be sufficient evidence of rape of an adult woman for it to be believed?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:56 PM
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Believe women and investigate. The practice for a very long time was to not believe women and to not even investigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:49 PM
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I mentioned that case on this sub the other day. The RP'ers have no response for it because it undercuts their false premise that men who appear "normal" would never rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:46 PM
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I've seen this argument made many times on here and I don't believe it is an apt analogy. And I think the difference is that generally people are cautious of strangers, whether they are men or women and irrespective of race, religion etc. If a stranger came to my door, man or woman, I'm not letting them in. When I make friends with a woman, usually I'm getting to know her in a public setting first, whether at work, classes etc. If I'm going out on a date with someone I don't know, man or woman, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:17 PM
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No, that isn't what it has come down to. That is the strawman argument made by many on this sub when a woman is cautious with men who are strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:54 PM
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Do you also think there are more men who have committed suicide because of a false accusation than there are women who have been raped? Or women who have been raped and then murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:30 AM
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Wait--are you claiming that before the me too movement women didn't fear getting raped? Edit--you changed your comment. it said women fear women before
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:25 AM
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You appear to think the purpose of the me too movement was to make false accusations. It wasn't. People supported me too because it made it more acceptable for survivors to share what happened to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:07 AM
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By your reasoning then, all men are responsible when one man rapes. That is not how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:57 AM
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It did not create a culture of fear. Women have feared rape forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:54 AM
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What caused it was one person's bad actions. This post and many others talk about how women shouldn't be cautious around all men because all men don't rape. But because one woman made a false accusation that means all women are lying and must be silenced? That's inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:35 AM
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Where did I say I endorsed a person making a false accusation? And yes, I am on board with survivors of sexual assault, male and female, feeling comfortable in sharing what happened to them and with having all claims investigated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:22 AM
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I can't speak for everywhere, but in the state where I live, both boys and girls are taught about consent at age appropriate levels. Do you think boys shouldn't be taught about consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:56 AM
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I believe everyone should be taught about consent. Why is it a problem to teach men and boys about consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:58 AM
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Rapists come from all walks of life. There is no single way they talk, look, or act.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:50 AM
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His suicide was tragic. What do you think about the hundreds of thousands of women and children who have been raped and murdered over the millenia? Do they count at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:47 AM
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No. It created a culture where women who survived sexual violence felt a bit more comfortable talking about what they went through. Why is that a bad thing? And teaching people about what consent means is a good outcome because it is designed to prevent rape in the first place. Why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:39 AM
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Agreed police should take all reports of sexual assault seriously, women and men. That still doesn't routinely happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:26 PM
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Actually you said primary focus which would necessarily mean excluding or significantly restricting non-PIV activities. And the title of your post says to "ignore" mainstream advice, which recommends foreplay, including oral and manual stimulation, before PIV.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:43 PM
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In fem-domme relationships the man wants the woman to dominate him and consents to it. It's not by non-consensual force.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:51 PM
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Why do RP men mention "tingles" so much and so derisively? It's strange. Most people want to be with people they are sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:32 PM
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Wait, I thought women chased bad guys who are selfish, emotionally unavailable and abusive? Now you're saying women chase HVM? Are HVM bad guys now? It's so hard to keep track of the RP mythology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:28 PM
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Ok, thank you for the clarification on what you meant. I will agree to disagree with the position that it's rare for women to need more than PIV for the best experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 07:36 PM
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Your OP says men should focus on stamina, endurance and "delivering" "quality" PIV. That language clearly suggests long sessions of mostly the man repeatedly thrusting his penis into her vagina. Then you made the comment that you don't need to be creative, which again suggests a primary focus on the man thrusting into the woman. You also vociferously argued with every person who said that in their experience, doing a variety of things, including oral and clit stimulation, was preferrable to prim…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:02 AM
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I don't think people's lived experience, explained to you repeatedly in the comments by me and others, constitutes a straw man. But as I said, you and the men who believe the OP are obviously free to have sex as they see fit. I'm happy with the quality of my sex life, and the quality (or lack thereof) of other people's is not a hill worth dying on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:19 AM
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My comments are light-hearted and based on my lived experience and that of many women. Yes a hard cck is a very good thing for consensual sex. I've never denied that and never will. All hail the hard cck--seriously! I'm just saying there's lots more to a great sex life than marathon jackhammer sessions. And I'm suggesting that in an intimate setting, telling a woman who's not cumming from jackhammering alone that she really should be based on the studies you found, probably isn't the best strate…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 06:06 AM
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I'm not saying it's not a challenge. I'm saying that, with creativity, a woman can still be sexually satisfied with a partner who has ED issues, especially in a loving, committed relationship. And I'm most definitely not a troll. Just a woman who loves great sex and knows how to have it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:29 AM
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Wow, now women are reprehensible and not just lying, selfish, children? You are on quite a roll for someone who doesn't hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:31 AM
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Like I said earlier, most men are normal people who don't see women as a group as cartoon-ish villains. This sub is not representative of what most men believe or how they act IRL. RP is thankfully a minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:14 AM
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Wow, sub- level IQ? Not at all dude. Just because someone disagrees with your position and RP vitriol doesn't make them low IQ. Quite the contrary. You seem very angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:45 AM
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So it's your position that once abuse has started, the person being beaten shares half the responsibility of being beaten? Why does the person doing the beating not bear full responsibility for their violent conduct? I completely disagree with absolving the abuser of any responsibility for their violence, which is what that position does. There's no point in continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:35 AM
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That wasn't an insult it was a question. I do not find it helpful to blame women or men who are experiencing domestic violence for not leaving sooner. If you have no money of your own, no friends or family around to give you a place to stay, no transportation, if he is tracking your movements, if he has a powerful position in the community, if he is threatening your children if you leave, if there are no shelter beds, etc., it can be incredibly difficult to leave. Domestic abusers often beat you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:07 AM
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You are so on cue with every RP talking point that I'm starting to think I'm debating a RP bot. Do you ever have an original thought other than what the manosphere algorithms doew? No need to answer that--it's a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:33 AM
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But you mean only. Your comment just proved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:24 AM
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I'm not going to resort to insulting like you're doing to me. People who seem good can in fact do bad things, which then makes them bad too. Why is that so difficult to understand? The reality is that many times women stay with their abusers because people tell them, it was just once, he's usually nice, he didn't mean it, he's a good guy, he's sorry. It becomes a sunken cost fallacy. The reality is that once he hits you, it only gets worse and it only gets more violent. He is no longer a "good g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:22 AM
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You always have to twist it to somehow make it women's fault. It's quite interesting how deeply ingrained your disdain for women is embedded in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:03 AM
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So you think only "Chads" beat their wives and girlfriends? Again, that is not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 01:00 AM
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Right. The men who are violent aren't responsible for their violence. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:54 AM
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Where did I say that physical violence is ever acceptable? The point I'm making is that putting people into two categories good v bad is not helpful. Sometimes people who appear "good", who have never been violent before, can become violent. And thinking that a "good" person could never do something bad is not reality. I'm not saying bad people are actually good--I'm saying it's not always easy to tell at first and sometimes people who you never think would be violent, so-called good people--can…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:52 AM
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Nice try at revisionist history--you didn't say casual sex. You specifically referred to women as a "hole". Casual sex between consenting adults who are on the same page as to what's happening is one thing. Dehumanizing half the population as a "hole" is something else. The truth about women is that they are fellow humans who display a wide range of characteristics, personalities, motivations and actions. Just like men do. Your version is "truth" is anything BUT the truth. It is dangerous becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:43 AM
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Your world view of men is very black and white. Men are either "good" or "bad", nothing in between and no nuance. A "good man" would never commit domestic violence. That's not reality. Ask anyone who works in that field. The person (man or woman) who is violent is the person responsible for domestic violence. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:34 PM
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Ah yes, that old chestnut--women are primarily responsible for being abused by their partner, not the partner that is abusing them. Tell me again why the person being violent isn't responsible for their own acts of violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:14 PM
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You claim that the truth about women is that en masse they are lying, vain, selfish, pathetic children and worth nothing more than being a receptacle for men to madturbate into. The fact that you think that is the truth just proves my point. So keep on going. Let's see how far the down the manosphere you can sink. It would be amusing if it wasn't so dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 10:42 PM
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No we didn't establish that. And the more you write the more your hate and disdain shines through.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:57 PM
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OMG, dude, that is too funny. I actually laughed out loud at that response. Best of luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:10 PM
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It says a lot about you as a person that you resort to dehumanizing half the world's population as simply a receptacle to masturbate into. But, hey, you do you and try not to drown in your bitterness. I'll stick to my belief that most men aren't like you (and OP) and are for the most part normal, well-adjusted and don't hold delusionaly hateful and negative views of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:08 PM
3

Again, wrong. You don't seem like a particularly creative lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:51 PM
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So you want to have a partner who is a routine liar and who wants to be with a manipulative, selfish and unavailable man? I get that it if you are manipulative. selfish and unavailable yourself, but if you're not then again it makes no sense. Why would you want a partner you think so poorly of? Just because you're horny? Honestly, that's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:49 PM
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According to OP, the alleged true nature of women is that women lie routinely and only want manipulative, emotionally unavailable and selfish men. In that event, there's nothing to engage with because it's delusional. Plus, if that is truly what you and OP believe is women's true nature, I don't understand why you would want anything to do with women at all. Why not just go your own way and leave women alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:38 PM
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Not true. I know plenty of women (including me) who have expressed sexual dissatisfaction with male lovers who offered ONLY an erection and stamina.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:55 PM
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See my comment above. Many women who fantasize about that are tired moms looking for a harmless escape. It's not because "women bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:45 PM
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Many women dream of becoming a mother, which literally involves using their own bodies to grow and feed a baby. Further, many moms of babies and small children spend their days caring for those tiny humans who depend on mom for pretty much everything. It's not hard to see how reading a novel or fantasizing about getting your own needs met might be appealing. It's an garmless escape and certainly not the gotcha you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:42 PM
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Bingo!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:56 PM
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This guy gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:55 PM
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I'll give you a hint: answer is E, all of the above. Just like many men don't enjoy sex with a woman whose only game is lying on the bed, many women don't enjoy sex with a man whose only game is jackhammering.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:49 PM
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I think the point is foreplay matters and makes a huge difference in sexual pleasure, at least for women. Jumping right into jackhammering without oral or clit play first generally isn't very pleasurable for most women. Also just jackhammering usually isnt the best sexual experience for most women. This post seems to completely disregard that. But I guess jackhammer away if you want to believe OP. I suspect you may not get many requests for a second encounter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:37 PM
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Expecting an open-minded response to a post claiming that women routinely lie and secretly want emotionally unavailable, selfish and manipulative men is both unrealistic and unreasonable. An open-minded post merits an open-minded response. The OP is not thst. Plus, how exactly does the OP's cartoonisth characterizations help things or find solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:08 PM
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Sorry--I intended my comment to respond to OP, not your comment. I think OP misses that nuance, not your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:49 AM
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You’re missing the key nuance about the “bad boys” in these romance novels—usually they are good under the bad boy shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:15 AM
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Ladies, how come red pill men are so convinced they know better than women do what we fantasize about and whether we actually want IRL what we fantasize about? And why are they so convinced that their video games are harmless but romance novels are not? It’s not enough to criticize what women do, now OP has to demonize what some women read for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:57 AM
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Again who is blaming innocent men? If you're saying that a woman taking precautions in the future after being hurt by a "bad" man, that is not blaming innocent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:55 PM
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Who is saying that it is? OP invented that strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:54 PM
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What specific actions are women asking innocent men to take as responsibility for the actions of bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:50 PM
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First, the lack of consent during the sexual activity is what constitutes rape. Not violence or the nebulous term "force." For example, person A is sober, person B is so drunk they're unconscious and cannot consent. Person A gently penetrates unconscious Person B. That is rape even though no violence or "force" is involved. So your concept of what rape is wrong, much like the American politician who wrongly opined that women can't get pregnant from "legitimate" rape. Second, the law does not def…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:39 PM
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Yet, by posting that all women are gold diggers, you yourself calling the women in your family golddiggers, which is very derogatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:28 PM
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WTF is "actual rape"??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:19 PM
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Like how you're generalizing about all women here? The lack of self-awareness in your OP and comments is laughable. edit: fixed a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:18 PM
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Question-- What specific actions are women requesting innocent men to take to be responsible for bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:05 PM
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I would hope so. That's child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:51 PM
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Education is really important. Will education stop rapists like the man on trial in France who routinely drugged his wife for a decade to the point of unconsciousness, invited men over to rape her unconscious body, and filmed the over 70+rapes? No, because that is evil. But will it stop some date rapes or other rapes? Probably. Especially if we teach not just no means no, but if we also explain that practicing yes means yes is a really good way to ensure that the sexual partner you're engaging w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:35 PM
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Yeah I saw in another of OP's comments that he thinks women should be "submissive." So he probably thinks any woman who doesn't shut up and obey is a "radical feminist."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 10:06 PM
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And there are countless women who have died giving birth to their husband's child. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:53 AM
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The term gold digger typically refers to a women who engages in transactional relationships with men for monetary reasons and not for love. It's highly derogatory, not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:44 AM
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I'm curious what constitutes a radical feminist to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:14 AM
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No. I'm asking how you define it because you make the sweeping claim that all women fail to give any basic decency whatsoever to all but a small minority of men (Chads?).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:26 PM
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How are you defining basic human decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:34 PM
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Pre-nups with the characteristics I describe above are upheld. If they are draconian against the party with less assets; if they aren't freely negotiated and signed well before the wedding; or if the party with the fewer assets doesn't have independent legal counsel, then yes they can be invalidated. Do it properly, and you're protected. And perhaps hate is too strong a word, so apologies if that was offensive. But your comments on this reveal a distinctly and highly negative view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:53 AM
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Then a fairly negotiated pre nup, signed well before the wedding date, with both parties represented by counsel to protect your premarital assets is your friend. Hating women is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:19 AM
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Those stats are questionable. The 80% derives from a discredited dating app survey. And the 10% is a gross underestimate. This sub is full of posts from men complaining both that most North American women are overweight and that overweight women are repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:53 AM
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That's great that you are nice and kind. But from what I've seen, and from comments and posts I've read, many unattractive women report feeling invisible to men, just like many unattractive men report feeling about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:12 AM
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And men treat unattractive women differently than attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:44 PM
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How is it gaslighting to simply ask you what those duties are?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:38 PM
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So then you would agree that there would be no "right to try" in the hypothetical I posed (the one you referred to as rhetorical and hyperbolic)? You say a no means no would still apply, but how do you account for situations where the right to try effectively eliminates the other party's ability to say no because the touching has already occurred?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:49 AM
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It's not a hyperbolic or rhetorical question. From a perspective of criminal prosecution, I generally agree with a no means no standard, with nuance. For example, a person who is unconscious can't say no, yet that can still be rape. And I am about as far from what you call a puritan as you can get, but I nonetheless think that asking for consent is a good model to follow in how one interacts with others because it can eliminate uncertainty or confusion. Plus being asked for a yes can be really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:13 PM
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Seriously, there's a post from RPers almost every week on here complaining that single mothers are horrible and raise horrible children. The OP completely ignores that in claiming bad mothers are never discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:15 PM
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Indeed many women simply scratch that itch themselves, and frequently too. It's a lot safer than hookups and orgasms are guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:39 AM
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It would be helpful in trying to understand your position if you would provide clear and concise examples of what you mean by the “right to try”. For example, a man or woman in a relationship is fine going in for a kiss with their partner without asking for a yes first. But I’d argue that it isn’t acceptable for a stranger to walk up to me grab my face and try to kiss me without asking. So what does the “right to try” mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:49 PM
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That response is overly dramatic and reeks of a persecution complex. And no I'm not calling the (metaphorical) cops. Being creepy isn't illegal, it's just ... creepy. I've never seen someone so offended by the suggestion that you should ask for permission before sexually touching strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:32 PM
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That isn't what yes means means. It simply means getting affirmative consent before sexual contact. You added the requirement that the yes must be joyful, presumably so you could have something to be outraged about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:50 AM
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You already posted this nonsense three months ago. Yes means yes is topping from the bottom--which persuaded no one. Do you not have any new thoughts? Why are you so obsessed with wanting to touch women without asking consent? It's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:34 AM
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That study does not support the proposition that one third of all women engage in foodie calls. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:54 AM
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Are we starting on the "the only good woman is a submissive woman" nonsense again? And "love" isn't the correct term for what those men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:50 AM
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First, I never argued that Disney shows a balanced portrayal of good and bad characters. Nor did I even bring up Disney--the OP did. I'm arguing that for RP men to say that the take away from Disney movies is that women are perfect and magical is absurd. To have that view, you would have to ignore the key antagonists who are driving the plot--the villians, many (if not most) of which are women and they are portrayed as evil. It also ignores the fact the male heroes in the movies are portrayed as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:36 AM
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It's also really funny when RP men point to Disney movies as standing for the proposition that all women are wonderful magical creatures. What about all the evil witches/stepmother? Also they conveniently ignore that for every perfect princess there's a perfect Prince Charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:34 PM
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That's talking about the risk of death. The person you were responding to was referring to the rate of maternal death in the US. Your statistic does not speak to what is actually causing the high rate of maternal deaths in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:06 PM
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How shocking for a pro-lifer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:00 PM
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Wow, this is a whole new level of fat-shaming. Do you have any credible data to link obesity during pregnancy to maternal fatalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:57 PM
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This is a really good point that is usually ignored. It's also worthwhile to define what a single parent is. A parent who has primary custody where the non custodial parent is actively involved with frequent and routine contact with the child is not in my view a single parent. As to the OP, you're assuming that in the stereotypical single mother situation that there is an involved and available father who wants custody, which typically is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:54 PM
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Seriously! What a disgusting comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:25 PM
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Unless you're in a monogamous relationship you should absolutely not skip the condom with anal. STIs are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:10 AM
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Did you ever consider that those "purity cultures" teach women that they should never say no to their husbands' requests for sex, whether they want sex or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:19 AM
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What is fun? And a woman who is sexually liberated would presumably have no problem saying yes to sex if she wants it--that's in part what being sexually liberated denotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:32 PM
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I agree this is a ridiculous take. It's true that wives shouldn't "mommy" their husbands. But the examples listed in the OP do not constitute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:38 AM
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Did you read the article? It also says that the crime would not have been as horrific if one of the passengers had called 911 so that law enforcement could have intervened sooner. My post is pretty clear on my objection. I specifically stated that no one had an obligation to physically intervene. I find it really sad that no passenger called 911. And I specifically object to you laughing "ha ha" at the fact that no passenger called 911. Do you get off on the idea of women being raped? Because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:20 PM
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You think it's funny that woman was raped in public and not one person, male or female, could be bothered to call 911? How is that "equality"? I don't think anyone was obliged to physically interevene. But for no one to call 911? Your glee over that is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:36 PM
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So in your world view: (1) only a handful of women have jobs and pay taxes; (2) men receive no benefit from infrastructure projects; public transportation; public utilities; medi-care; free public schools; police and fire protection; General Relief payments to indigent people; free food for themselves and their indigent children through TANF and other programs; air traffic safety; libraries; parks and recreation areas; OSHA regulations for safer work environments; and vector control--to name jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:45 PM
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Credible source for the claim that the average woman gets $100,000 to $200,000 a year from the government, all of which is paid only by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:59 PM
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How about we just start with men not raping, beating and murdering women? That's basic decency. Or does that cost men too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:50 PM
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Adding safety and protection to the list of things that women aren't entitled to opens the door to an interesting question--protection and safety from whom? The answer to that question in large part is men. That adds an interesting dynamic. Are women entitled to not be physically asssulted/beaten/robbed/raped/murdered? I'd argue that both men and women are entitled not to be assaulted/attacked/murdered, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:36 AM
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Credible source for the claim that only men pay taxes and only women receive welfare-type benefits, and that those benefits are purely for low-income women and not also for low-income men and low-income children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:06 AM
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First, the phrasing of a woman "performing duties" for her man is interesting. What "duties" does the woman owe and what is the source of the duty? Duties are enforceable--how does the man enforce the duty? And no I do not believe that men are entitled to lead and have final say just because they are born men. Women are leaders too. I believe in an egaliterian approach where spouses are equal partners and both spouses do things for each other because they love and respect their partner. Why do o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:10 PM
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No I do not think that performing the duties required by my employment is a loss of autonomy. I work so that i can earn a living, which enables me to be autonomous in my personal life. Work can suck sometimes (which is why we're payed), but for most people it's necessary to earn money so they can live in an autonomous way. In the employer and employee situations typical of Western society, it is a business relationship where the employee performs tasks during a specified time period for specifie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:54 PM
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You honestly think giving up autonomy is easy? Why don't husbands do it if it's so easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:18 PM
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Why do men on this sub keep giving the analogy of a boss? A husband isn't a wife's boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:16 PM
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It is a high bar for an adult to give up their opinions, desires and autonomy and agree to obey their spouse and submit to their spouse's " authority". I haven't seen any men on this post saying they'd agree to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:14 PM
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You are moving the goalposts. You said a wife must be submissive. A woman doesn't have to be submissive to have good values/good personality or to be trust-worthy, fun or positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:03 PM
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The issue isn't just "listening to your man." Both husbands and wives should listen to each other. The issue is what you're really arguing for--obedience to the husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:01 PM
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Most women don't want their husbands to be their boss. Why do only wives have the obligation not to be argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:56 PM
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Are you defining mentally healthy as being submissive? Because that is what OP is asking for, a submissive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:51 PM
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Right. Your unstated position is just that the husband has the final say on any issue in dispute--beause the wife must submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:33 PM
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This are questions of compatibility and couples who disagree on all that are fundamentally incompatible. With the exception of circumcision, the fact that the man has a penis doesn't mean he should be the ultimate decider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:25 PM
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No. And let's be real. The men that demand submisdion aren't just talking about dangerous decisions. They want submission over every decision whether they involve danger or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:20 PM
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Your use of the word authority is telling. The concept of agreeable/submissive that OP, you and others are espousing rests on the principle that the man is the authority. The concept sets the man up as the ultimate decision maker. The concept expects the woman to ultimately fall in line with the man's final decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:15 PM
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So if it's just semantics, then you'd agree that men should be submissive to women too. If it's just about not being argumentative with your relationship partner, then men and women in a relationship should be submissive to each other. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:20 AM
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So men should be agreeable in a relationship too, if that's all that agreeable means. Men shouldn't start random arguments or be insufferable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:07 AM
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You said submissive, not non- argumentative. They're not the same thing. Also, shouldn't both the man or women in a relationship be non-argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:15 AM
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You're asking the question on Reddit, so of course you're getting the experiences of women on Reddit. If your position is that women on Reddit don't have similar experiences to women not on Reddit, and hence you deny the truth of what is being said in the comments, why did you even bother making this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:58 PM
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On this sub you probably need to add /s. Great response, though, for such a ridiculous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:06 PM
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My comments were made in response to the comments above that claimed men are disposeable but women aren't because society says women have inherent value. I agree that you didn't use the term disposeable. I think the concept of inherent value is hard to define. I would posit that all people have inherent value by virtue of being born human. I don't think inherent value is tied to a person's genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:18 PM
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So it really isn't that women are more inherently valuable than men, it's that men have strong sex drives and want to have sex with women. Under that reasoning, women are just as disposeable as men. If men are just disposeable cannon fodder (as often argued on this sub) then women are just disposeable holes to fuck. I don't think that is true for either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:30 PM
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Wanted for what and wanted by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:09 AM
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What is their inherent value?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:06 AM
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Saying no IS clearly stating a boundary. No is not ambiguous. The idea that a soft no (whatever that is) isn't really a no lacks any evidentiary support. Likewise there is no evidentiary support for the proposition that only an "assertive" no (whatever that means) is a real no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:28 AM
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You assume men don't understand a no, but you haven't demonstrated that lack of understanding what no means is the reason why rape occurs. The word no is not complex or complicated. Claiming men don't understand it is at best infantalizing men and at worst excusing rape. Teaching people that no means no is straight forward and creates a bright line rule, which if followed, will result in rape not occurring. Teaching men that no doesn't mean no and instead requiring women to say no over and over …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:08 AM
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Maybe you should learn how to read. I never said only breastfeeding moms. I wrote that pregnant women, breast-feeding women and post-partum women (granted there was a typo from auto correct in spelling post-partum) are eligible for benefits for themselves. Only that limited group of women are eligible, not all women as you claim. Is it your argument that the fact that a limited category of women can get food through WIC for a limited period of time somehow proves society doesn't care about singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:24 PM
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You brought up WIC as some sort of gotcha to prove that society coddles mothers and hates fathers. WIC doesn't show that. It doesn't provide cash money to either mothers or fathers.It takes some of the burden off low-income parents, both mothers and fathers, by providing nutrition to their children. It helps parents, both mothers and fathers, meet their parental obligation to feed their children, which benefits the parent. If you don't see how it benefits a parent to know their infants and child…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:27 PM
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It is factually erroneous to say low income fathers don't directly benefit from the program. Parents, including fathers, have a legal and moral obligation to feed their children. WIC directly benefits low income parents, including fathers, by providing food to their children. It's really weird that you don't understand that a parent directly benefits when their children's nutritional needs are met. As for "jumping in" a conversation, since when is a reddit comment section a private conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:32 PM
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I'm not the OP and I didn't express an opinion on the OP. Your factually-erroneous, MRA-adjacent outrage about a program to benefit low income infants and children called for a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:12 PM
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You are missing the point. The program isn't for all mothers or all single mothers. The program applies to a select group of adults for a limited period of time--only while pregnant, breastfeeding and post-partum. These limitations demonstrate that the purpose of the program is to feed low income children and infants. To ensure nutrition for infants you need to make sure that the pregnant, breastfeeding or post partum mother/person gets nutrition. WIC does benefit low income single fathers becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:45 PM
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No for their infants and children. Indigent men are eligible for other welfare benefits for themselves. If a father was also pregnant, post partum or breastfeeding then they would be eligible for themselves, but that would seem to be a rare situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:24 AM
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Fathers can apply to receive WIC benefits for their infants and children. it's clear on the website that children and infants are categorically eligible, so fathers can apply for benefits for their infants and children 5 or under. Pregnant, post Parfums and breastfeeding mothers are also eligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:20 AM
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Fathers are able to receive WIC benefits., so your premise is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:02 AM
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If all we know about the people in your hypothetical is height and whether they're a rape survivor, then the person with the better quality of life is the person who hasn't been raped, no matter their height. Your premise that suicide demonstrates who has it worse is fatally flawed because it assumes that suicide is a rational response to not having success with women allegedly because of height. It also discounts the fact that most people have a will to live even after suffering trauma, such as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:06 AM
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This has to be in the top five most ridiculous arguments I've seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:59 PM
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Are you making the argument that being man under 5'3 is worse than being raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:09 PM
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I've read all of what you and OP said. Neither of you have been able to defend your arguments with facts or reasoned arguments. I'm not mad. You and OP are the ones that repeatedly resort to insults when people disagree with you. I appreciate that you admitted the ultimate truth of your position in responding to my question. It demonstrates that neither I nor the others in this thread have misinterpreted anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:23 AM
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I think holding people to a standard of not grabbing the genitals or breasts of strangers is pretty damn reasonable, wholly unambiguous and not prone to weaponization. I also fail to see how it would be exhausting to follow a rule like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:55 PM
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Is it your position that it's arbitrary to decide that it's harmful for a stranger to walk up to me and grab my breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:09 PM
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He goes further than that--he considers not being allowed to do that is rape on him, which is probably the most absurd theory ever espoused here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:53 PM
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what is the moral/ethical problem with the receiver--the one being kissed, whose genitals are being touched and penetrated--dictating the details, outside the bdsm context?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:18 PM
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I think OP's been and didn't like the fact that consent is required before touching someone sexually at such places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:15 PM
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OP reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of bdsm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:11 PM
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No you haven't answered the question in number 4. The question excludes the dance/club context. You've deflected that question repeatedly and instead of addressing it resorted to tactics like calling me stupid, religious, puritanical and autistic (none of which I am). It's starting to seem like the entire motivation for OP is that you got kicked out of "da club" for being too handsy with a stranger without their consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:45 PM
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You still didn't answer my question in number 4. I guess we'll agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:16 AM
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A few things: By placing sexual touching in the realm of what you call aesthetics, you place my want or desire not to have a stranger touch me sexually without asking first equivalent to the stranger's desire or want to touch me sexually without asking first. In other words my desire not to have a stranger touch me is not simply a preference with no greater weight than the stranger's desire to touch me sexually. that is indeed moral relativism and it defeats my bodily autonomy. Topping from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:58 AM
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You're responding to an argument I didn't make. I didn't say interact. I said physically touch in a sexual manner. You've still failed to explain why it is racist, puritanical, or genocidal to say a stranger should ask before touching me in a sexual manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:18 AM
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Again, none of what you wrote explains why it's OK for a stranger to come up and touch me sexually without asking. You seem to advocate that would be acceptable, "moral" conduct, but you nothing you've written supports that position.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:49 AM
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None of that demonstrates that aesthetics is the same thing as want. Also you've insulted me several times even though I did not insult you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:32 AM
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No one here is saying sex is vile and disgusting. We're just saying ask first. Despite writing hundreds of insult-laden paragraphs, you have failed to demonstrate why ask before sexually touching someone, particularly a stranger, is sex-negative, puritanical, genocidal, or racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:20 AM
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It's funny how you repeatedly insult everyone who has a different opinion than you. Anyway aesthetical means concerning the appreciation of beauty or good taste. Want means to desire. As in, I desire that strangers do touch me sexually unless they've asked first. Sayng I do not desire or want to be touched sexually without consent is not racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 01:05 AM
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if you come up and hug me without asking, i cannot refuse because it's already happened. Also, you opine that it's perfectly fine to touch someone sexually so long as you don't harm the person. But your definition of harm seems to only include serious physical injury. Harm is defined more broadly than that. Keep your hands to yourself unless you have consent is a pretty straightforward and generally accepted concept. And contrary to your statements in comments, that is not a racist or genocidal …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:56 AM
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I don't see anyone saying it's rape to hug someone without consent. I'm saying before you hug a stranger, you should get consent . It's strange that you fight that concept so vehemently.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:28 AM
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unwanted-ness is not an aesthetic concern nor does it mean whether you liked it. it is about whether you wanted to be touched or not, which goes directly to consent. You are creating a new definition of want to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:14 AM
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a person absolutely should be able to control what another person physically does to them sexually. OP provides no legal, ethical or moral reasoning to rebut this very basic premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:02 AM
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it's not a presumption of it being bad. the presumption is that you don't have the right to touch me sexually if I haven't consented to it first. ETA--Are you advocating that you have the right to touch a stranger's genitals, or breasts or hug them or smell their hair just because they haven't yet told you no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:51 PM
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yes means yes does not assume that sexual touch is bad. It simply posits that before you touch someone sexually, you ask to make sure the recipient is amenable to your advances. It's a pretty simple, human rights based concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:38 PM
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It is in no way terrible to say that you should ask before hugging someone. People have the right to not be touched in a sexual way without their prior consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:04 PM
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OP conflates yes means yes with topping from the bottom. Topping from the bottom is a purely bdsm-related concept. Yes means yes is not a bdsm concept. They are two completely different concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:42 PM
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Topping from the bottom is a bdsm term and is inapplicable outside the bdsm context. Moreover, bdsm itself is based on affirmative consent of both the top and the bottom. Only after both the top and the bottom have explicitly consented to their respective roles does topping from the bottom even come into play. OP essentially takes the position that a person can do anything to another person until they say no, which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:03 PM
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From the original post: he said she told him she wanted to be more than just a "hole" to him. She wasn't asking for a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:40 PM
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So you are saying that it is your wife's job/work to have sex with you. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:51 PM
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thank you! So sick of the MRAs and RedPillers misstating these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:47 AM
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