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Inheritance is a major exception to the community property rule and it undercuts the argument that married people are a single unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:36 PM
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That's why I said some men, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:22 AM
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So with respect to abortion, the answer is yes, those things do benefit some men. Your point on paid maternity leave makes no sense. Yes it would be fantastic if there were paid maternity and paid paternity leave. Neither are required under US law but some employers offer one or both. But paid leave for one parent is necessarily more beneficial for both parents and the child than no paid leave for either parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 03:43 AM
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But don't men also benefit from abortion being available (if they don't want pregnancy either)? And don't men who are parents and baby boys benefit from paid maternity leave bc their partner is able to bring in some income to the family while caring for a newborn? And subsidized childcare helps all parents not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:57 AM
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I think it's interesting that anyone would identify a fictional character rather than a real person as someone they admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:24 PM
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It absolutely is coercive to use threats of suicide to manipulate a person into submitting to sex they do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:03 AM
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The suicidal man in your hypothetical isn't showing any reciprocal care for the woman as a human life. Why are women required to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:52 AM
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I personally don't care what strangers think of me. It sounds like you'd prefer it if women spoke to you the same way men speak to each other, i.e., mansplain, victim blame and brutal honesty. My view is that your position is in the minority and most men would not respond well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:54 PM
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I'm unclear on your response. Are you saying that women are incapable of speaking to men the way men speak to each other at home, in public, and at work because unlike men who only speak that way to help other men, women would only speak that way to harm men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:18 AM
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Ok OP, let’s assume that men routinely mansplain, victim-blame and speak without tact to other men and it’s considered normal conversation, and that men speaking to women that way is simply treating women equally. The corollary to that would be women speaking to men the way you say men speak to each other. I find it very hard to believe that most men would be ok with most women speaking to them at work, at home, at school, or in public interactions that way. At best, the response would likely be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:50 PM
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So only men should have high paying jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:16 AM
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What do you think they should say?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:14 AM
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What policies do you think the government should have to help more men find wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:14 AM
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Do most men "truly lust" after most women? Being will to settle for a warm hole doesn't equal true lust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:22 AM
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When women in this sub correctly point out that red flags can develop over time, the RP denies that as false and an attempt to "avoid accoubtability". If a woman is supposed to know from the first or second date that a man will end up beating her, cheating on her, being financially abusive, or being a deadbeat parent, then men should be able to figure that out immediately as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:16 AM
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The problem with your argument is that it ignores a direct apples to apples comparison in favor of a manufactured apples to bread comparison--in other words why jump to a hypothetical comparison when a man being pegged is functionally equivalent to a woman doing anal?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:05 PM
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No the closest comparison is if a man did certain sexual acts with his former partner and then no longer does them with his current partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:28 PM
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Actually, children, not women, are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:21 AM
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So you think eliminating women's access to birth control is going to make women more inclined to have casual sex with men or be in relationships with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:51 PM
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What? You're the one that said men pick incompatible women because otherwise they would be starved for love, affection etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 09:09 PM
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Why would any person want to be in a relationship with a partner who is with them because "it's better than starving?"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 07:22 PM
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Your view essentially assumes the only thing holding the majority of men back from raping, beating, and killing women is that women are the ones to birth babies. That's a pretty dark view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:35 PM
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I did address that part of your comment by pointing out that is a gender neutral issue applicable to all stepparents, not just stepfathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:10 PM
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Interesting that you think the purpose and goal of being a husband and father is power. And the same would apply to a stepmother, right, all the responsibility but none of the authority? Why make it a gendered issue when it's a gender neutral stepparent issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:58 AM
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First, both men and women want and deserve peace in their relationship, not just men. And both men and women are capable of disturbing their partner's peace, not just women. Are you really taking the position that most women want to come home from work to an argument? Second, both partners in a relationship should cooperate and try to find agreement with each other. Many tradcons use the terms cooperative and agreeable as what women are supposed to be. But it's just a prettier way of saying the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:01 AM
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You mean just how you are formulating and conjuring assumptions about "single moms" as a group? Or is that only ok if you're doing it so you can feel superior to a group if people you consider inferior to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:06 AM
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"Un-submissive" does not translate to being combative. Unless of course one considers it combative for a woman to want to make decisions about her life instead of ceding that authority to her husband. Rather than deeming that combative, most reasonable people consider that basic human auonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:57 AM
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Obedience is absolutely part of submission. Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:30 AM
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If the only options are as you frame it, shut up and obey your husband vs. being a "single mom" (which is an undefined term so broad that it's just a boogeyman at this point), many women will quite reasonably choose the latter. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:37 AM
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You initially claimed that men have it worse because women "only" have to be pregnant and give birth, while men have to support a child for 18 years. I pointed out that was not correct because mothers and fathers both have the legal duty to feed, clothe, and house their children. It isn't only the father's obligation. You then pivoted to, well women can drop babies at safe havens and men can't. I pointed out that wasn't true either as the safe haven law is gender neutral. So now you bring up the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:51 AM
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In the situation where an unwanted pregnancy results in the birth of a baby, the mother and father have the same legal ability to drop a newborn off at a safe haven. I am not aware of any laws in the US at least that say only a mother has that legal right. As a practical matter, more mothers likely have physical possession of newborns simply because they are the ones giving birth, but if the dad physically has the newborn he can drop it off at the safe haven location as well. So I'm unclear on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:23 AM
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If you are talking about safe haven drops, if for some reason the dad physically has the baby, he could do the same thing. If you're talking about in person giving up a newborn, if a mother tries to do that and refuses to name the father, the authorities will make efforts to force her name the dad, and there is a legal notification process (at least in the US) that must be satisfied before the baby can be adopted. If the dad physically has the baby, tries to give it up and refuses to name the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:53 PM
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A woman giving a baby up for adoption means that neither she nor the bio father has any further financial obligation. That has nothing to do with the fact that mothers and fathers both have the obligation to financially support the children that weren't given up for adoptionedit: fixed grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:38 PM
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Most newborns are readily adoptable and so it would be the adoptive parents paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:30 PM
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That would be a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:26 PM
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I have the same issue with the post--the issue is consent to pregnancy not consent to patenthood, and I read your post. The problem is that the solution you propose, money, is neither comparable nor compensatory for pregnancy and childbirth, whether it's a wanted or unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:22 PM
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I think comparing who has it worse is a fool's game. But if that's the game you want to play, then women would have it worse. Not only do they have to go through pregnancy, labor and post-partum, they have the same obligation as men to financially support their children. Both mothers and fathers have the legal obligation to feed, clothe and shelter their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:16 PM
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OP framed the issue as consent to sex isn't consent to parenthood, when it really should be framed as consent to sex isn't consent to pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:10 PM
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If you're enjoying it, then by all means, keep chipping away at his nonsense!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:03 PM
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You're not wrong about women. Most women are also extremely put off by this as well, as evidenced by the fact that most women do not do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:42 PM
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Prostitution has nothing to do with either straight or gay/lesbian dating dynamics. Prostitution is about selling your body to be penetrated by someone who is paying for the ability to penetrate. The prostitute would not allow this without being paid, so there is no basis to assume that a female prostitute is attracted to her male customer just because she is straight. In other words, physical attraction and the prostitute's sexuality are irrelevant. Just as a straight female prostitute may acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 08:34 PM
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There's absolutely no point debating someone like him who believes that abortion is "killing children," thinks that a man working a job is the same as pregnancy, and assumes that all men are working not to support themselves but only to selflessly support their wives, who apparently contribute nothing, and offspring. He's a zealot. edit: fixed omitted word
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:38 PM
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Why is that as equally possible, especially if she is otherwise physically affectionate (holding hands/kissing, etc.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:22 AM
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I mean you, and other men on the sub, aren't seeing women's persepective if you believe the possibilities I described (about why a woman might not have sex on the first few dates) are rare. I can absolutely see how a man would think a woman wasn't attracted to him if on the first few dates she didn't want to have any physical contact, wasn't up for any kissing by the second or third date, or wasn't flirting or being playful or engaged. If a man acted like that with me, I would also think he wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:55 AM
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You're assuming that having hook-ups is always fun and pleasurable for women. Many women do not find that to be the case, and hence learn from the experience and do not repeat it. It makes me wonder if men truly believe a consensual hookup is necessarily always a good experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:15 AM
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It is true you didn't characterize sex as men "getting" it "from" women and I didnt mean to suggest that you did. I was referring to the other men saying that in the thread. That is absolutely an unsexy perspective though for people who consider sex a mutually satisfying, shared experience. And I think it's possible to know if a man sees it that way through his actions, even if it is unspoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:10 AM
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I never said women can never "do bad", so I have no idea why you are trying to paint yourself as a victim who is forced to put up with women who aren't attracted to you. You aren't forced to do any such thing. The thought process you expressed, which many men have expressed on this sub, strikes me as very black and white thinking on a nuanced topic. This is a public forum in which women are allowed to voice their opinions. That's all. No one's stopping you from using how many dates has she ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:52 PM
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But it sounds like the men responding here are saying that a woman wanting to have early sex isn't enough--the woman must actually have sex early, not just want to. Building desire, craving and anticipation can make it even more amazing when you ultimately do have sex. Taking your time to seduce each other can be incredibly sexy. On the other hand, characterizing sex as something men "get" from women, preferably asap, is very unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:36 PM
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Ok, if that's what you want to know, why is penetrative intercourse on the first or second date the only way of knowing that you're not just hanging out as friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:08 PM
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There are so many posts on this sub from men about how women can never understand them or what they deal with. The fact that you think this is rare demonstrates that men on this sub are incapable of understanding women or their experiences. This is not rare at all. Women just like men are capable of personal growth throughout their lives and making adjustments to conduct based on that growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:02 PM
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Do you not think it's possible a woman could have sex a few times on the first, second or third date and reach a conclusion that doing so isn't right for her for any number of reasons that have nothing to do with not liking or being attracted to you? I can think of a bunch of such possible reasons, such as: after having had sex very early few times she has learned that she prefers knowing someone better before having sex; she had a pregnancy or STD scare despite using birth control or condoms an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 10:46 PM
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Yes exactly the waiting list is for babies, not children. So your claim that a mother who becomes a single mother of children who are not babies doesn't hold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:41 AM
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Available children? Or available babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:36 PM
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That isn't what the UBS report says. Did you read the article or just the headline?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:54 AM
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That isn't what that UBS article says. It doesn't say contribute financially. It refers to contributing to investment decisions. Basically even when women are breadwinners their male partners make most of the investment decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:53 AM
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OP euphamistically refers to prostitution as "access to intimacy". But what users of prostitutes are doing is purchasing the ability to literally be inside another person's body--to penetrate another human's mouth, anus or vagina. Given that women are still stigmatized if they have too many sexual partners (whatever that threshold is set at), it seems very unlikely that the act of selling/purchasing the ability to penetrate another's mouth, anus or vagina could be destigmatized. Destigmatizing h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:05 PM
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And the OP’s framing of it as “easy, open access to women” is dishonest. He’s advocating for the right to temporarily purchase the ability to penetrate another human’s vagina, anus, and/or mouth. OP at least be honest about what you are advocating for instead of pretending it’s just about “access” to female companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:57 PM
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You’re ignoring the fact that most women are also working at jobs on top of being what you describe as the household manager.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:39 PM
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This is nonsense. It is not a crime to wear a speedo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 11:30 PM
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He's wrong. You're not the only woman who feels that way. Many do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:21 PM
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Having a larger than average penis is absolutely not required for a man to be a good lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:01 PM
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Rather than jumping to yet another accusation that women en masse are liars, here's another thought: the claim that size matters is referring to actual penetrative sex, not purely aesthetics. A big penis on an attractive man can be nice to look at. But that doesn't necessarily mean the person admiring it wants it penetrating her. It's like appreciating a piece of art or the beauty in nature. I see most women saying that size can indeed matter, but it's typically on extreme end of things, i.e. if…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:36 PM
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Well yes of course you can. I never said you cant. You're incorrectly assuming that by high standards I'm referring to the alleged 6-6-6 rule. I'm not. By high standards, I'm referring to someone very compatible in terms of personality, values, physical attraction, lifestyle, sense of humor, religious viewpoints (if any), sexuality, views on parenting and wanting children, money management etc. etc. Marrying someone just because they are attractive or has a good job is actually a low standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:48 PM
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Everyone should have high standards for choosing people to be intimate with and/or partnered with. And how is having high standards against progressive ideas? I'm not aware of any principle of progressivism holding that anyone is entitled to dates/sex/ relationships with anyone else without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:21 AM
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I explained what I think should be the solution or "middle ground" as you put it. Society tells women constantly that they need to take actions and precautions to be safe. The facts of rape cases (if not always the survivors' name) are public record and the vast majority of rape defense counsel try to make the jury believe the victim is lying or at fault for their conduct. Plus, most rape cases aren't even prosecuted because either the victim isn't believed or the case is too difficult to prove.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 08:02 AM
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Women have always been strong. As for independent, it's puzzling why anyone would mock the fact that women no longer have to be financially dependent on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:50 AM
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He is arguing that women who are survivors of rape or violence at the hands of acquaintenances or relationship partners should not be given any sympathy by men. If he is trying to make the point that it's not just the survivor's fault and the rapist is also to blame, why deny sympathy to another human who suffered brutal and violent crimes if not to attribute fault exclusively on them? OP's conclusion that women are attracted to rape and violence IRL is based on the false equivalence of CNC fant…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:44 AM
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Safety messages are drilled into girls' and women's minds pretty much their whole lives, i.e., don't walk alone especially at night, meet men you don't know in a public setting, negative messages from family/church about showing too much skin, don't leave your drink unattended, don't trust men because they only want 1 thing etc., etc. Also, most survivors of sexual or domestic violence already blame themselves. Many beat themselves up mentally for being with the abuser. And often, the abuser acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:25 AM
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It's not censorship. The sub has rules and standards. Try meeting them. Plus, if you have the right to spew vitriole that encourages rape and violence against women, I have the right to call it out and say it should be taken down. I'm not censoring you as I have no authority or ability to stop you from saying or writing whatever you want. Your post encourages rape and violence against women in equating a CNC fantasy with rape, in saying women are attracted to rape and violence, and in saying tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:03 AM
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Your post argues that: (1) if a woman is raped or beaten by a man she is acquainted with or in a relationship with, it is her fault and she is not the victim of a crime; (2) most women want to be raped in real life because most women supposedly have fantasies of CNC sex; and (3) women's behavior turns good men into rapists and physical abusers. This is vile, and the mods should take this post down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:05 AM
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Today I learned that women wanting to earn their own money at jobs they don't hate so that they can support themselves is an obsession? And men have been traveling for centuries, and contine to. But women also wanting to experience that is an obsession?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:13 AM
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I mean you have no data to prove or from which to even infer that a bad economy or environmental degradation is never a factor that potential patents consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:09 AM
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More likely, just insistence of financial realities. In the US, the law does not require employers to offer paid maternity leave. There is the possibility for some moms to receive disability pay, which is only a fraction of total wages, for 6 weeks if non c-section birth, and 8 weeks for c-sections. And that's barely enough time to recover from the open wound in the uterus after giving birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:05 AM
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First, what specific actions are women as a group to be held accountable for? Is that different than blame? And what specific actions are needed to "hold" women as a group "accountable--i.e., what does holding a group accountable soecifically look like? I have these questions every time womens' alleged lack of accountability is raised. Second, I can think of four areas right off the bat where society places responsibility on women: 1. It's always said that children of single mothers are unsucces…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:50 PM
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Most women work jobs for money, which they use to pay household bills And women who are also mothers in addition to working a paid job, also shoulder the biological reality of pregnancy, childbirth, post-partum, and breastfeeding. Then once back at paid work, women also do the vast majority of infant and childcare. How is any of that being "catered to"? I'm not saying men and fathers do nothing because that's certainly not true. But the idea that women and mothers do nothing, or much less than m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 07:27 PM
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Did you tell her that you're not going to take her seriously and she's just for fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 05:15 AM
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Lol. Look at the troll, trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:16 PM
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Nope. What that shows is that in general: (1) women do much more unpaid work, like child care, than men do, which would lead to paying less taxes; and (2) women-dominated professions like non-univ level teaching, nursing, other non-doctor level medical jobs, janitorial/cleaning, textiles, elder care, pre-school and infant care, agricultural work etc, are paid less than male-dominated fields, which would mean less tax liability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 10:11 PM
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Ever consider some women engage in bdsm with other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 05:35 AM
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Number 1, CNC requires consent of both parties. So you should not do it if you don't want to. Number 2, a rape survivor is NOT thinking of their rapist and getting off to the rapist. Sometimes, they are doing this consensually with someone they trust to take back control and autonomy, which the rapist stole. Sometimes they want a safe, role-play CNC to give them a new memory. Typically, it comes down to creating a safe situation where they can take control back after the rapist rook it from them…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:58 AM
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Yes, CNC is consensual role play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:48 AM
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CNC is consensual sex that is role-playing noncensual. So women who enjoy CNC ARE women who "enjoy consensual sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:45 AM
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Another rhetorical question: Why is it that so many men on this sub immediately resort to insulting the intelligence of any poster they disagree with, especially if it's a woman? It's such a weak tactic. My comment says nothing about this sub endorsing rape. Of course the sub doesn't endorse rape, as that would violate this sub's and Reddit's rules. My comment references the many posts on this sub by men saying that if "modern women" don't change their behavior, their rights will be stripped, ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:03 AM
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What scientifically based studies prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the majority of women do not love their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:50 PM
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I was trying to explain this on the thread for the post yesterday that inspired this one. I kept arguing that it wasn't men's inherent nature to rape and murder women only to be told repeatedly by men that, no, actually it is. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 08:39 PM
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I never brought up natural selection. The OP and the guy I was responding to did. I think it's absurd to apply that concept to humans living now. So many men on this sub rightfully argue that not all men are rapists. Yet here you are asserting that men by nature are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:40 PM
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What is it with men on this sub constantly fantasizing about a world where women are punished for not fucking any man who wants her, by government mandated rape and forced birth? Why do men equate not being able to get a date with rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:35 PM
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Yeah, animals do animalistic things. Are you trying to argue that it's natural for men to rape women and it's natural selection for rapists to reproduce? That is also a very negative view of men, just like saying it is man's nature to murder women. And why are you equating undesirable men not getting dates/LTRs, which is the point of the post, with men raping women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:29 PM
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Your attempted analogy had nothing to do with whether the woman being murdered had a child/children. It posited that a woman being murdered by man was natural selection--it didn't say being murdered before she reproduced. So yes, that is saying that it is natural for men to murder women, which is a pretty messed up argument to make. The point that the comedian was trying to make, which isn't one I necessarily agree with, is that it is natural selection when undesired and undesirable men end up n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:02 PM
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Well then you're saying it's natural for men to murder women? That's a pretty odd statement to make about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:24 PM
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Why would you try to analogize a man not getting dates, which involves no crime since it is not illegal to refuse to date someone, to a woman being murdered by her partner, which is a crime? Why not just make a comparison to the equivalent--a woman not getting dates with who she wants? (edit: fixed typo)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 08:48 PM
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That comment is so utterly disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:15 PM
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Are you claiming that a woman needing to use lube means she isn't attracted to her partner and doesn't like sex. That's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:07 PM
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It is not at all hypocritical or immoral to stand up for the legal rights of others as a group, but also not be attracted sexually to individual members of that group. There is no legal right to be "given a chance" or to be dated. You are conflating two entirely separate concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:22 PM
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The majority of men in their 20s are not clamoring to be married or in serious LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:45 PM
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I suppose it depends where you live, whether you're religious or conservative etc. I never told my daughter anything like that and raised her to be self-sufficient so that if she chooses to be with a man, it's because she likes him and is attracted to him, not because she needs to be "provided" for financially. My friends did the same with their daughters. So this is not at all a universal message from mothers to daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:46 PM
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Also, women receive benefits for not just themselves but also their children. The men on this sub who complain about women getting benefits always ignore that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:59 PM
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To expand on the comment on post partum depression, a symptom of PPD often is regret over having the baby. That symptom typically goes away once mom is treated for PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:05 PM
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You mean you will keep your spouse financially dependent on you for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:55 PM
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Again, this is not a gendered issue. It sounds like you are extrapolating your experience dating some rather rigid women onto all women. If we're going by personal experience, I am a woman and wouldn't be bothered by any of that, nor would my close female friends. My long-time (male) partner, on the other hand, hates an unmade bed, things being out of place, and not doing tasks in what he considers a timely matter, which he sometimes considers procrastinating. We make it work despite our differi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:54 PM
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Not a gendered issue. There often are time-sensitive or scheduled actions/tasks/activities related to raising babies and children, like the examples in my post, as well as other examples like vaccine schedules, well visit exams, school paperwork, homework, etc. Plus children do benefit from having routines that are followed most of the time, with some flexibility for unique circumstances. This sounds like a compatibility issue. If a person is concerned about not having a partner who sets artific…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 05:25 AM
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More accurately, not just saying "Babe I will handle it," but actually handling it within the time frame necessitated by the circumstances (i.e. a poopy diaper or hungry newborn should be handled promptly and not at leisure) goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:26 PM
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Most people agree that a parent should do a hell of a lot more than just not let their child die from starvation or illness/disease. That is the absolute bare minimum, and you're acting like that alone is good parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:59 PM
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Seriously. The fact that a parent of a new baby has time and energy to game regularly strongly suggests that they aren't pulling their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:52 PM
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This depends on how you define "bigger deal." The first time for many people is awkward, disappointing, not what they expected, and sometimes even painful. It also depends a great deal on the chemistry between the participants. I think it's pretty rare for a first time (or even a first partner) to be a person's best sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:31 AM
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Thinking HIV only affects gay men is indeed homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:57 PM
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I take that as confirmation that lonely really means horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 06:44 AM
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Oh? It must be jealousy then that his dating pool is more extensive than yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:00 AM
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Did you not read the sentence where I said most if not all non-monstrous people "deserve" love, to the extent anyone deserves it? And claiming straight women and gay people get more sympathy for being lonely, you have got to be kidding. Most people have little sympathy for strangers, whether gay or straight, when it comes to getting sex or relationships. No one is assigning women and gay people relationships or partners either. Finally, I seriously question whether the men on the internet compla…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:58 AM
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Most women aren’t saying lonely men deserve to be lonely. What they’re saying is that it is not women’s responsibility to cure that loneliness by fucking, dating or being in a relationship with lonely men. With respect to deserving relationships, I suppose you could say most non-monstrous people “deserve” love or a relationship, but it’s a meaningless point because relationships/sex/dating are about mutual desire, mutual consent, and mutual compatibility—no one is going to assign you a partner i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:05 AM
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It's certainly is a choice to call talking about being raped or beaten or maliciously and hsrmfully controlled by a spouse, date or long term partner "whining". Most men and women who end up being abused by an intimate partner did not know they would be abused when they chose to enter the relationship. Abusers typically don't show their hand right away, and many severely escalate after marriage or children. It's clear you know nothing about intimate partner violence and just want to spew vitriol…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:38 PM
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Homophobic/biophobic much?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:34 PM
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The majority of women in the Western world have not been in 9 abusive relationships with a tattooed fuckboy. Red Pill tilts at windmills.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:33 PM
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I don't think most people have the resources or skill or ability to access 911 calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:26 PM
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Why in the world would a person not prioritize themselves in the dating process? Why would anyone prioritize a relative stranger that they've gone on a few dates with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:52 PM
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It's funny that you think all incidents of domestic violence are prosecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:50 PM
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If only men could figure out how to keep their pants zipped. It takes both for a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 07:48 PM
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It's not ironclad. This seems to be an attempt to make an analogy to a friend zone situation. But unlike OP's ball-kicking analogy, in a friend zone scenario, Bob receives friendship from Alice. OP's analogy ignores that and instead goes straight to the ball kick, which is when Alice turns down Bob's romantic advances. She then realizes they weren't really friends and complains that he was only friends with her because he liked her romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:54 PM
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Perhaps cheating and keeping women on the side is the male version of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 06:41 PM
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No, this is gender neutral. The husband and the wife typically are each awarded half of all assets acquired during marriage. If sharing assets acquired during marriage is problematic for men, they should negotiate a reasonable pre-nup well before the wedding, with each party represented by legal counsel. It is often said on this sub that men don't care about a woman's education, career or wealth. I doubt that is true for most men, but if there is truth to it, maybe they should care, to avoid wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:24 AM
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I don't agree with OP's view that all men view relationships as transactional. I'm sure there is a small subset of men and women who view it that way, but not most people. But if I'm understanding your comments, your position seems to be that women's opinions on men's nature in relationships is irrelevant, and only men's perspectives should be considered. I am pointing out that it is hard to reconcile that position with the fact that Red Pill is premised on men opining on the alleged nature of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:03 AM
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Race seems irrelevant to your post, but at least that can be verified somewhat accurately with census data. Do you have accurate surveys or other reliable data showing that a significant percentage of women don't care much about their husbands' personalities so long as there is the desired "status" or showing a significant percentage of women refuse to marry at or below their socioeconomic status? That sounds like opinion, not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:57 PM
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Those are certainly oft-repeated opinions repeatedly offered by red pillers. But the fact is most people in Western society marry within their socioeconomic group.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 09:22 PM
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And your comments aren’t based on reductive stereotypes of educated, financially successful women? Be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:53 PM
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Right, as I said, Red Pill opines on what women's "nature" is without regard to women's perspectives on that topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:24 PM
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Isn’t a primary premise of Red Pill (and this sub) stating what women really want and prefer without considering women’s perspectives? And not only does Red Pill not consider women’s perspectives, it accuses women of lying if they disagree with what Red Pill says. Personally, I disagree with the opposite gender stating that they know the other gender better than they know themselves, and I think all pills are silly. But this comment is supremely ironic given the amount of “philosophizing” men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:02 PM
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They can sell whatever they want. Do you really think the girl scouts prevent big scouts from selling cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:24 AM
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Lesbian relationships do not have the highest rates of physical abuse. That is blatant misrepresentation of the study, which is repeatedly asserted by men on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 10:51 PM
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I've seen plenty of comments from Red Pill or Purple Pill men on this sub claiming that what mothers do isn't hard work, pregnancy/childbirth/ breastfeeding is not a big deal because women are "built" for it, staying at home to raise children is golddigging and the home/marital assets belong solely to the husband because he is the "breadwinner," and downplaying if not ignoring the fact most mothers are employed and still do most of the childcare, etc. It was actually very refreshing to see Jmuds…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:09 PM
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Ok, but why did you claim that saying the pot calling the kettle black wasn't degrading when in fact it is an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:58 AM
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It may be that you don't fully grasp how analogies operate. For example, the pot calling the kettle black is degrading. It's an insult, denoting hypocrisy, double standards and/or lack of awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:44 AM
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That's a made up number based on a fallacy-- abortion is not "women killing children."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 02:41 AM
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The point is you're pretending women have never done and do not currently do anything dangerous which is not remotely historically accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:37 PM
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Not that it's a job, but what do you think childbirth is if not historically very dangerous and always "dirty"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:22 PM
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Even if that was true--and it isnt--what point are you trying to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:18 PM
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Exactly. OP is delusional in thinking women are scared of tradespeople. At most, there may be wariness about potentially being overcharged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:11 PM
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And even if "selfish desires" were relevant, and they aren't, what would women need to do to "respect" men's desire for sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:39 PM
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Men who are stable and employed at the start of the relationship can and do abandon their children, especially once they realize how much work it is to be a parent or the relationship with the mother breaks down. It's interesting how so many men on this sub create these characatures of single moms and absent fathers in an effort to place all the blame on the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:23 AM
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Parents can break up/divorce and still be involved parents. A divorced/broken up with parent can seek custody, exercise visitation rights, show up for events in the child's life, volunteer at the child's school or extra curricular activities, handle doctor's appointments, etc. It may not always be easy, but if you love your child, you make the effort. If a divorced parent, father (or mother), chooses not to make the effort, that falls squarely on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 01:11 AM
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The stat relates to who files the paperwork to initiate the divorce. That's it. Extrapolating from that to claim that 80 percent of divorces involve the woman "leaving" is speculation based on feelings of bias against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:19 PM
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So basically, women should be virgins until they marry a man who they know with 100% certainty will never abandon their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:10 PM
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How is a single mother not taking accountability for her choice in who she had kids with? She is raising the child. That is concrete evidence of taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:07 PM
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You said above that locker room talk is condemned, presumably by society, as harmful to women, trying to use that as a gotcha. But now you're claiming only "feminists" think it's harmful and most people think it's benign? That is contradictory. And, sure, you love women while also believing they are horrible liars?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 02:30 AM
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What is the source for that alleged fact? In the US, census data puts the recipients of governmental benefits, defined as social security, medicaid, SNAP, WIC, free or reduced cost school meals, SSI, TANF, Energy aid, rental subsidies, Medicare, and unemployment benefits, as 50.8 percent female, 49.2 male. That's an even split, and certainly does not support the claim that taxes paid by men are supporting the lifestyles of most women. And there is no evidence that most or even half of all women …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:08 AM
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But I thought the doctrine of red pill was that rich men can get women easily? Men--and women--with higher incomes are the ones paying more in taxes, and those men are having sex, not the men who you claim women reject, who are being rejected at least in part if not completely because they are poor. Also, this argument assumes that all women are receiving welfare benefits, and that no women support themselves financially, which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:40 PM
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And who determines the "correct" way for women to "use their freedoms"? Your argument is essentially women should have sex with or marry men they don't like or desire, or else men will rape them. This fails to grasp that actions taken upon threat of rape are rape themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:13 PM
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The term "redistribution" means the reallocation of something, or to alter the distribution of. In the context of redistributing sex, it means there would be a decision maker saying person x needs to reallocate their body to person y so person y can have sex with person x. It strains credulity to assert that this could ever be accomplished on a mass scale consensually. It would be rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:54 PM
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If locker room talk is condemned like you assert, Trump would never have been elected President. Your apparent dislike of women is leading you to take positions that defy reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 08:35 PM
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What jurisdictions require one party to a divorce to turn over half of their individual assets and half of their future pay?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:14 AM
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Ditto for the words cooperate and agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:34 PM
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No that's being a responsible parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:30 PM
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Those statistics deal with employment, not the time/effort fathers spend parenting as compared to mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:10 PM
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Feminism destroyed vigilante justice?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:56 PM
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You're really taking the position that fathers do more of the work to raise children than mothers do? Source for your delusional take?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:54 PM
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Saying men's only value is paying for things is just as wrong as claiming women's only value is sex and birthing babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:22 PM
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Parents are legally required to provide food, clothing and shelter to their children, not just fathers. And the effects of pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding are life-long, not limited to "2/3 of a year."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:36 PM
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Marital assets aquired during the marriage are not all "his stuff "
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 07:06 PM
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I'm wondering if you have any experience with the bdsm world? Most women whose kink is being submissive identify with her point about kink immediately and easily. There are so many men who are only Doms because they believe women are inferior and they want an avenue to hurt women and be able to justify it by labeling it as a kink when in fact it's just straight up misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:55 PM
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And even teferring to SNAP and WIC would be wrong. SNAP and WIC is available to low income fathers with custody of their children. The only difference is that pregnant and breastfeeding women can receive WIC for themselves on a temporary basis while they are pregnant or breastfeeding because that is for the fetus or newborn's benefit. And general relief benefits to low income people are available on the same terms for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:42 PM
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It's also accepted to punch down on unattractive lonely single women. That is not a gendered issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:36 PM
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I don't know what jurisdiction you're in, but in the US, stay at home parents aren't earning credits for social security, have no access to 401ks with matching benefits, have no vacations or sick days, have no unemployment or worker's comp benefits, and parenting is often 24 hours a day, So no, the benefits are not roughly similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:13 AM
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Are you seriously suggesting people who are raped are responsible for being raped because they could have just walked away?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 12:18 AM
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But blame isn't the same thing as taking responsibility. It could be argued that the single parent who stays to raise the child alone, whether a woman or man, is taking 100 percent responsibility, and the abandoning parent is taking zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:17 PM
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It's ironic that you, a man, are attacking others for raising anecdotes, rather than accepting responsibility and saying, yes you're right, I did bring up an anecdote myself. Your very responses here are proving your OP to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:09 PM
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So men aren't interested in having a spouse who is a functional adult who can pay their own bills? What is it you think men need from a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:40 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that women are becoming educated and having careers in order to attract men. That is not accurate. Most women are doing that for themselves, and so they can be support themselves financially, and help support their families/children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 01:21 AM
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The mother also contributes at least 18 years of her income, plus at least 18 years of her life actually doing the work of raising the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:28 AM
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No I don't believe being a stay at home parent means that you are 365, 24/7 on call to comply with the demands of your spouse, whether for sex or a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:56 PM
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You were arguing for wives being required to provide sex on demand with no ability to say no, not just making a sandwhich.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:42 AM
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Sure that's a completely rational and fact-based assertion--women don't love or care about their children at all. Do you even hear how venomous you sound? Just admit you hate women and be done with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:18 AM
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The data shows that women generally are worse off financially in the long term after a divorce as compared to men. situations.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5992251/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:20 PM
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How are men treated unfairly in family courts? Most men who request primary custody from a judge receive it. Most men don't request primary or even 50-50 custody. Alimony is rarely awarded nowadays, and it's even rarer to have lifetime alimony awarded in 2025 because most women are employed. It's also pretty easy to avoid alimony by marrying someone who makes about what you do and sharing parenting duties equally rather than having a stay at home parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:08 PM
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No. Most women here are saying they enjoy sex with their partners and engage in sex because they want to and enjoy it, not as a transaction. You have used OP's absurd post as an opportunity to repeatedly insult women and men by saying only attractive women have value and average women have no value besides being sex dispensers to their husbands and boyfriends, and implying from those two claims that men only value women for sex. Like I said, your comments are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:36 PM
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The way you talk about women and men is really disgusting. Most people get into relationships and marriages because they are interested in the other person on a human level. And most men don't consider women to be nothing more than a sex toy. How in the world are you labeled blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:35 PM
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That is so not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:28 PM
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It gets so old hearing some red pill men--who preach accountability--place all or the majority of blame for circumcision on women. First, in modern day America--and you've said your post only applies to the US--many if not most women defer to the father regarding circumcision since the father has a penis and the mother doesn't. Second, if a circumcised man believed circumcision mutilated his penis and robbed him of sexual pleasure, such a man would do everything in his power to make sure his son…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:09 PM
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No. Parents make the decision. There is zero factual basis for your assertion that mothers solely make that decision or your implication that fathers don't want their sons circumcised but mothers overrule their decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:13 AM
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The first paragraph of this comment exemplifies why many people have moral objections to age gap relationships between 18 to 22 year olds and people 10 plus years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:29 AM
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Seriously. It really shows how necessary age of consent laws are. What exactly are 12 year olds "willing participants" in? What an utterly disgusting series of comments from adult men. edit: fixed typo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:07 PM
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Some women do really want that, but many aren't really into women and are trying to make their husbands happy and will only kiss or engage in top play.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:44 AM
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If true--and I don't think it is--that's pretty disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:32 AM
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I was responding to the claim OP made, which was nonsense. I never said anyone has 100% control over their destiny, because that too is an absurd claim. There are things in everyones' lives, man or woman, that are beyond their control. And yes, men and women should be able to freely consent, or not, to sex, dating, relationships and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:12 PM
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Your claim that men have no problem admitting that their personal flaws are the reason they don't have a relationship is absurd. This sub would not exist if that was true. There are posts or comments every day blaming "modern women" for pretty much every difficulty a man might encounter in dating/ marriage /relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:16 AM
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Ok, so you weren't talking about the US, which is why I asked the question. The US does not have quotas, including no quotas for the US Congress.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:22 AM
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Where are they a thing? Quotas have been illegal in the US for quite some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:34 AM
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This is true for many of the big national charities. But there are many smaller, local charities where 85% plus of funding received goes directly to services and programming. You're painting with too broad a brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:48 AM
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That makes no sense. Why do women have the obligation to encourage men to do the shitty jobs that are women- dominated? Your whole point was that women only do or want to do cushy jobs, which plainly isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:35 AM
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Posts like this always ignore that women are the majority in jobs like nursing, nursing assistants, elder care, care for disabled, hotel maids, office, commercial and residential cleaning and etc. which are far from comfortabke, cushy, air conditioned jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 01:54 AM
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There may some who do that. But I've seen many, many women who have shared their personal experiences, and they're told exactly what I wrote in my comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:32 PM
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The dick size posts really should just be labelled as Questions for Men from now on rather than debate. It's clear that the actual experiences of women on this sub are irrelevant and will be dismissed as either a lie or "well you haven't fucked a guy with a X sized dick who could use it well."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:16 PM
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Source for "a lot of rapists rape" because they think the woman is "enjoying it"? Why do you have a problem with a rule that requires people to stop sexual activity unless they have verbal consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:01 PM
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You have made the choice for yourself that your role is at home. But that is not all that women are good for. And no, women are not in general inferior to men in every field. Women in the legal profession win against male lawyers all the time, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:13 AM
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So you're assuming that men are automatically better teachers than women, and that if a woman teacher is good, she is an "outlier"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:05 AM
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Because then OP wouldn't be able to take enjoyment from seeing women teachers "punished" for being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:59 AM
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I never said anything about victims or victimization in my post. My post was essentially defending men against your claim that men's only motivation is women. Today I learned that saying men have purpose besides finding a woman "victim feminism propaganda."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 10:29 PM
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It's a negative view of men to conclude that the only thing that motivates them not to live in hut somewhere is women. It's assuming men have no independent agency, thoughts, interests, goals or purposes if their own outside of "must have woman". It's also a negative view of women because it assumes women have no independent agency, interests, purposes or goals beyond being a thing for a man to acquire and fuck. It doesn't take any gymnastics to see that reductionist viewpoint is insulting to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:25 PM
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What historic time period(s) are you referring to? I thought the position of this sub was that "feminism" and "modern women" were the cause of the alleged large amounts of sexless and unhappy men, and "feminism" and "modern women" are relatively recent phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:21 AM
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This is such a negative view of men. And women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:02 AM
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I can't speak for other countries, but in the US, it doesn't have any impact on division of marital assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 PM
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It just sounds like you need to find more compatible women to date and potentially impregnate. I've seen responses from several women on reddit saying they'd have no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:37 AM
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This is a very emotional post--imagining that women think they are perfect and sinless and never have lustful thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:33 AM
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Egomania is a psychological condition diagnosed by a psychologist. Are you a psychologist? It's condition characterized by obsessive love of oneself and preoccupation with one's needs. I doubt a psychologist would diagnose a pregnant, birthing or post-partum mother for being hurt at being accused of cheating--and that's exactly what a request for a paternity test is under those circumstances because the only way he's not the father is if she cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:26 AM
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You missed the "running and organizing the household/family/children" portion of the definition. It's not just managing emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:06 AM
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That is not a remotely accurate summary of the linked article.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:45 AM
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If that is true then the corollary would be that being meek, obedient and submissive keeps women safe from men. And history has proven that to be false. No matter what women do, some men will always be violent to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:55 AM
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I mean you're advocating to restrict women's free speech rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:24 AM
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What that translates to is you think women should be meek and submissive to men in the hopes they don't beat or kill us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:08 AM
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Giving consent is a huge difference. Or do you also believe consensual sex is the same as rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:15 AM
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Comparing being spanked against your will by your husband as punishment is not remotely comparable to consensual kink, which is what spanking as foreplay or during sex is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 01:04 AM
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You mean their wealth, right? Or even after 30, 40, or 50 years of marriage, everything is still all his?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:28 AM
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Hurting women isn’t a bad thing. They deserve to be hurt. Just preserving this comment in case this self-proclaimed misogynist tries to delete it later. What a disgusting comment. Get help for your mental disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:47 PM
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It's not a feminist narrative to point out the fact that most women still work after marriage and childbirth, that the difference between what the wife earns and what the husband earns is shrinking, and that the number of women earning the same as or more than their husbands is growing. That's just recognizing reality. Being the breadwinner implies that that person is the sole source of income, or at least provides the vast majority of the income, say 75% ar least, AND that the other spouse isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:25 PM
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I would love to see some evidence for the proposition that there is a large percenrage of men in their 20s who want to get married in their 20s; and who are desirous and capable of being a "provider" in their 20s. I am not sure what part of the world you are referring to, but in the US, that isn't reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:55 PM
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Ok, thanks for the explanation. I agree that where the rapist is a relative or someone the survivor has a prior relationship with that there could be conflicting feelings. In such a case, there would be some sort of existing bond that the rapist used to their advantage to facilitate the rape. I don't think that would be the case where the rapist is a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 05:41 PM
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No they do not set the standard for what a relationship should be. If anything they set the standard for what a relationship shouldn't be. Take The Bachelor: no woman IRL wants to be with a guy who is simultaneously dating 30 other women, while also living with those ither women, or if you make it to the final two, have no idea whether you're being proposed to or dumped. It's mindless entertainment that can sometimes be fun to watch or hate-watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:57 AM
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"For rape some people hurt the people they bond with" So it's your position that rapists are trying to "bond" with their victims? That's rape-apologist nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:47 PM
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What conflicting feelings are you referring to with respect to rape survivors? Are you saying that a rape survivor is bonded to their attacker?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:44 PM
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What "different things" should women do for men on dates to compensate men for planning and paying, other than being honest about whether they are interested in getting to know the man, and planning and paying for some dates too?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:09 PM
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People have responded to your questions in good faith that women early in dating have the responsibility to be honest about their intentions, that many women are willing to share the cost of dates, that women have the responsibility to be responsible adults in a relationship, that women work, pay bills and also deal with pregnancy, childbirth, and infant and childcare while also being employed, and that both people in a relationship have the responsibility to treat each other as they would like …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:46 PM
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What country in 1910 imposed legal obligations on women to have multiple children? Why can't women serve their nation in ways that don't involve having a baby every year from adulthood to menopause?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:32 PM
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Exactly. Both parties in the early stages of dating, as well as in relationships, have the responsibility/duty to be honest. And there are plenty of women willing to go on low pressure, low investment first dates. If woman you want to date requires more, then you're simply not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:29 PM
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The way you phrased that sounds like you view relationships as a vending machine that men put money and time into in exchange for a guaranteed long-term result. When a relationship fails BOTH parties "lose" whatever they invested in the relationship and women invest too, not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:29 PM
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it's pretty rich that he lectures you about having no right to speak about other countries and then accuses the US of spreading "gay communism", whatever that is. Gay people have always existed, everywhere there were people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:47 PM
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It is posted repeatedly on this sub that women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships. I disagree with that, but it is the old saw that is repeatedly trotted out on this sub. If it is the man that decides whether there will be a relationship, how does that relate to women having it easier? And even if we assume your claim that women have an easier time getting into monogamous relationships, that does not mean that women have no responsibilities in a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:38 PM
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Men view women having dating easier because men typically initiate contact and because average to attractive women can generally get casual no-strings sex from men easier than men can get from women. Men have that view because many place a high value on casual no-strings sex. As has been debated ad nauseum on this sub, many women do not view the ability to have casual sex with random men to be a benefit because casual no-strings sex isn't what they value. That debate will never be resolved becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:30 AM
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And OP conveniently ignoring the fact that most women work outside the home while simultaneously taking on the responsibility of pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding, infant care and child care. Cue red pill/purlpe pill men diminishing all that and claiming women live life on easy mode and women's contributions are di minimus because men are solely responsible for everything that makes society function. I honestly don't understand why men with views like that even want to be with women. edit to …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:45 AM
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You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:38 PM
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Text - H.Res.7 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Recognizing the importance of access to comprehensive, high-quality, life-affirming medical care for women of all ages. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text Here you go. There's similar language in Project 2025 as well. You are correct that no fault divorce affects both men and women. It would be devastating to male and female abuse victims. Some people think it would be easy to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 10:52 PM
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The Republicans/MAGA aren't just looking to ban abortions. Republicans in Congress submitted a resolution in favor of "wellness based fertility" in lieu of the pill, which is essentially the ineffective rhythm method, and encouraging women's health care that considers the needs of their husbands, children and the community. There is no similar call to consider the needs of wives, children and community in relation to mens health care. And there are calls to ban no fault divorce, which although u…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:23 PM
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The OP speaks in generalities that women view "unattractive" men as sub-human and that men do not view women as sub-human. I respond to OP to say nope men do indeed view "unattractive" women as sub-human, using the same generalities as the OP. Now you've turned that into me supposedly holding men collectively responsible and letting women off scott free? That is such a bad faith response. Men en masse do not view women as sub-human. Equally as important, women en masse do not view men as sub-hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:37 PM
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My point is that OP's claim that MEN do not de-humanize women is nonsense and factually unsupported and unsupportable. I gave examples of how men de humanize women they don't find attractive by noting the vitriol against single mothers, overweight women and "post wall" women, and provided an example from this very thread. How is my point invalid? Are you taking the position too that men do not dehumanize women? And if you are, how is the fact that some women--and men--object to porn useage remot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:00 PM
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OP explicitly claimed that men don't see women as "sub-human". You don't appear to be reading the actual comment from OP that i was responding to, which is somewhat ironic given your accusation about women's reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:50 AM
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Can none of you stick to the point? I was responding to OP's claim that MEN never de-humanize or vilify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:44 AM
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Too late for that. He's posted this nonsense twice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:32 AM
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No it's not. Men dehumanizing women they don't find attractive (over 25, a mother, overweight) is as old as time. It has nothing to do with people complaining about men, or anyone really, who over-use porn and can't get off from in person sexual encounters with non-porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:05 AM
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There are many posts from men about how single mothers, overweight women and post-wall (i.e. women over age 25) are sub-human. In fact, there's a post on this OP complaining about overweight women reading erotica about handsome, fit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 12:10 AM
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Why is a woman, or any person male or female, required to continue in any interaction with another adult if they find that interaction unacceptable? I wouldn't recommend that with a police officer trying to pull you over or give you a ticket. But a stranger or acquaintance approaching a woman and she's not interested, why would she not be fully justified in saying I'm not interested and "shutting it down"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:09 PM
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The point of the article is not that hormonal women destroy relationships--which is the point of OP. The article demonstrates the medical field's failure to take women's concerns about menopause symptoms seriously and to treat them as appropriate with HRT and that this failure can impCt interpersonal relationships. The issue isn't as OP suggests that menopausal women are unaware of their menopause symptoms and as a result stomp around blissfully unaware of what is happening to their bodies and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:27 PM
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If you're referring to my comments about the lack of scientific evidence to support OP's ridiculous claim that women's hormones are primarily responsible for relationships failing, I never said relationships fail because men are crap. I don't believe men are crap. I believe that relationships fail for a host of reasons most of which are wholly unrelated to women taking effective hormonal contraception to avoid pregnancy. I also believe that the medical field woefully ignores and under treats wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:07 PM
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As was explained to you above when you linked this above, this article does not support OP’s position.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:05 AM
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This is patronizing, condescending drivel. Please stick to your sex dolls and leave women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:05 AM
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There is no evidentiary support for your claim that there are so many marriages with "good men" that are destroyed by hormonal women. Your attempt to be innocently confused about why people might find your sophomoric personal opinions about hormonal women messing up relationships is laughable. And of course you'll dismiss any woman disagreeing with you as a hormonal woman being triggered. This OP and the OP's responses are bath faith
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:37 AM
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It's not about awareness because your post is misinformation not science based fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:30 AM
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There is no reputable science to support your claim that medical intervention (ie birth control) is responsible for these alleged issues. You are spreading misinformation and essentially blaming any and all problems in a relationship as being caused by women's hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:29 AM
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There is no reputable science to support the claim that hormonal birth control impacts the type men women choose or that women lose attraction for those men once off hormonal birth control. This view is espoused by conservatives and some red pillers to discourage women from taking effective hirmone based contraception and instead switch to the much less effective rhythm method, which is now euphemistically called "wellness based fertility." Republicans have submitted a resolution this term calli…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:24 AM
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I think it's far too generous to characterize this as "info about women's health."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:59 PM
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Women in that era drank a lot and were routinely prescribed "mommy's little helpers" (like valium). They were not more happy and less depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:15 AM
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I'm asking Mountain Sand to clarify because I do not believe women would in general be happier being sex workers, and that is what their comment seems to suggest. It has nothing to do with in comparison to being in a relationship with a man. The overwhelming majority of women do not want to be sex workers, whether in comparison to being single or in a relationship, and would not be happier under Mountsin Sand's proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 09:51 PM
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When you say "men and women would be happier" are you suggesting women would be happier as sex workers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:01 PM
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They promise to tell you after they have sex with someone else. That doesn't mean you can trust them not to have sex with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 10:00 PM
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What is there to trust when your partner tells you they can't promise to be faithful? You can't trust a partner to be faithful when they openly say they won't promise to be faithful. That statement destroys trust and would lead most people to assume their partner is or will have sex with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:52 PM
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You seriously think that men standing up and taking off their hats outweighs the ability women now have to decide when they get pregnant (modern reliable contraception), to become educated and to be self-supporting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:50 AM
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What world are you living in where ALL child-rearing is communal? And how do you make pregnancy, child birth and breastfeeding communal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:33 PM
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Yes! Especially if there are minor children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:25 PM
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Ok, so you admit that your original post asserting that in divorce women get all the men’s assets was false, and that instead assets acquired during the marriage are divided equally. Thank you for admitting your incorrect legal assertion so readily. Community property recognizes that both the husband and wife contribute to the marriage and that the material things acquired during that time are joint assets because they are a new family unit and no longer two separate individuals. That is a funda…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:18 PM
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It's not half of a man's assets. In community property jurisdictions, It's half of the community property, which generally consists of the assets they acquired together during the marriage through their income (which is also a community property asset generally).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:47 PM
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People are saying that because the implicit threat in your post is that if women don't start dating the men you think they should then men will use their "natural advantages" to force them. Plus you created a post that explicitly compares rape and women's freedom of choice. It's not normal to compare those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:12 AM
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Women have rights here and they still get raped--are you seriously denying that? And it's your position that it's a sacrifice for men not to rape. That is a seriously disturbing point of view. And men have always policed each other over rape. It was ok to rape and pillage during war because women were the spoils of victory. Raping your neighbor's wife--not ok because that damaged the husband's property. Rape has always been disfavored, it's in modern times that it's disfavored because it violate…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:10 PM
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It's an "advantage" that men created. You're acting like men have no control over their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:07 PM
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It absolutely does. You said have repeatedly argued that men gave up rape for betterment of society. That absolutely assumes both that men no longer rape and that men want to rape but are choosing not to for the betterment of society. Neither of those assumptions are accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:02 PM
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No, it's very relevant. Most mothers have paid employment on top of all the responsibilities and work of child care. Most fathers don't do 50 percent of childcare even when his wife also works full time. Having fewer children makes sense under those circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:46 PM
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No my position is that people having the freedom to choose who they date and marry is not immoral and not bad for society, and that rape is not remotely comparable to people having that freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:23 PM
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There is no factual basis for this claim. This is your opinion, not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:19 PM
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First, average men and women are dating, marrying and having children. It is not only "top tier" men. Second, Western society values personal autonomy so men and women having the freedom to voluntarily enter into marriage with people they choose is good for society. Third, you are creating a false equivalence between women having the freedom to choose who they marry and reproduce with and rape. Fourth, your argument also falsely assumes that rape no longer happens. Fifth, your position also fals…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:16 PM
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Number 1, you edited your post. Number 2, you said that it's OK for men now to complain about not getting sex by directly comparing it to rape "feeling good." That is offensive to both men and women. Most normal men aren't comparing consensual sex to rape. The fact that you do is disturbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:25 PM
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Yep. It's date me "voluntarily" or I'll use my strength to rape you. This OP is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:10 PM
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How is it immoral for women to date and marry men of their own choosing, where those men are also voluntarily choosing those women? There is nothing immoral about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:08 PM
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It sounds like what you mean by women using their "maximum advantage" is really just women being able to date and marry men they're interested in, as opposed to the men their families forced them to. marry. That is not remotely comparable to men using their "maximum advantage" of physical strength to rape women. It's very scary that you think those are equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:04 PM
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Wanting kids is very different than being an active and involved father.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:59 PM
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How do you know rape feels good? Have you raped someone? I imagine most normal men would not agree with you that violently penetrating a woman against her will "feels good ." Your comment is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:57 PM
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I'm curious what those 50 women might say about their experience dating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:36 PM
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This argument totally ignores the demonization of women in mono-theistic religions, such as the biblical stories about Eve being the reason humans were cast out of paradise. That's a cultural filter that is very much still a part of messaging from some who claim to be RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:24 PM
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That's not what you wrote. You explicitly wrote that men are captains, women are either supporting first mates or pretty things to look at on lounge chairs on the captain's ship, which is in fact treating women as acessories to men. In the US at least, most people are no longer interested in pursuing such stereotypical gender-defined relationships. So your argument that this type of relationship most men want---captain/first mate--is not based on reality. It's not as you assert that 98% of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:06 PM
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This comment demonstrates that you view women as accessories to men and not as people with their own separate agency. You might have better luck dating if you didn't view women as simply warm bodies to cook, clean, look decorative, and support you in the background while you pursue your career, success, education or interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:34 PM
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Decisions about birth control options for couples are a matter for the couple to decide. Many men have no problem getting a vasectomy once he and his wife/girlfriend are finished having children in consideration of the fact that the woman has been through one or more pregnancies and a couple decades of hormonal birth control. Some men aren't, and then those couples need to find a compromise of some sort, as I explained above. No one is forcing men en masse to get vasectomies against their will. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:18 PM
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I have no problem with men getting paternity tests. They are easily available in the US, Canada and UK. That's why it's unnecessarily repetitive to have weekly posts about them in this sub, with many men taking the opportunity to talk about how horrible women are. Just get the test--outside of France, no one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:33 AM
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Again not remotely relevant to OP. I'm sure there will be the weekly paternity fraud post soon too so you can spew your hatred of women soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:18 AM
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You compared what some women say in response to governmental restrictions on abortion to private conversations between couples regarding birth control options. And the suggestion that women en masse want to force men to get vasectomies against their will is hystrionic nonsense. edit to add: The conversation about birth control between couples implicates bodily autonomy for both the man and women: taking hormonal birth control/having IUDs inserted for decades and going through pregnancy(ies), chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:43 PM
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Classic moving of the goal posts when your analogy is demonstrated to be inapt. This post has nothing to do with paper abortions. But I'm sure there will be one soon enough, as there is typically one at least once a week, and you can seethe about how horrible and unfair women are then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:07 PM
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Are any laws being passed to require men to have vasectomies like the laws prohibiting abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:58 PM
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Women's teams don't do locker room interviews. It seems like you're just making things up to be angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:28 AM
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If you can't back up your point with examples of men's spaces that have been taken away to support your argument that their removal is the cause of male loneliness, then you're just ranting. The only one I know of is Boy Scouts, which I agree should be for boys only. But given how few girls actually wanted to join, and given that the molestation scandal hurt the Boy Scouts numbers far more than admitting girls, that alone cannot be the source of make loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:44 PM
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I can agree that there should be separate girl scouts and boy scouts. But the locker room example you gave does not fly because that is a work environment. And barring women reporter's prevents them from being able to do the job. How is a professional team's locker room where the players give interviews the type of man's space that would alleviate loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:36 PM
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Genuine questions: what male spaces are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:19 PM
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Really? More repulsive than murder, child abuse, torture, rape, child pornography, animal abuse, elder abuse, warfare?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:29 AM
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How is the mother "guilty" for staying around and raising her son? What is she "guilty" of?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:27 PM
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Oh ok, I misunderstood your use of "they" to refer to the people with a pattern of picking bad partners. Thank you for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:35 AM
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It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:23 AM
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First, I've seen it used repeatedly on this sub without restricting it to "patterns of picking bad partners." Second, accountability for repeat survivors of domestic violence would be getting mental health help to address any reasons there might be for their patterns. Third, it is insane that you think victims of domestic violence should be imprisoned. Most people who commit domestic violence don't even get imprisoned, but you want to lock up the victims? What criminal act did the victims commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:22 AM
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You honestly believe most women think they’re perfect?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:50 PM
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"Then they wonder why we hate them." You know that hating an entire gender is not a logical or rational response to you supposedly being told women are magical and perfect, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:12 AM
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I can't speak for what "feminists claim" but I think the issue is that porn normalizes choking and slapping and other things so that people without much sexual experience think that's the norm, when in fact it is not. Instead, partners need to talk about whether they consent to choking and slapping before one partner unilaterally springs it on the other partner. Further, you are missing the point. If a woman wants to act out a "rape" scene, it is consensual and thus by definition not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:29 AM
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Fantasies are de facto consensual--the person fantasizing is in control. Rape by definition not consensual. Having a fantasy that likely derives from the tradition of repressing women's sexuality is absolutely not the same thing as actually wanting to be beaten up and raped against your will. edited
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:08 AM
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So your argument is that women over 25 aka "post wall" need to be covered up completely and never leave the house so that men don't get depressed? You really think womens' only purpose is to be eye candy (and probably on demand sex dispenser) for men? Every time I think I've seen the most ridiculous argument on this sub, another even more ridiculous post pops up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:26 AM
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Are you not aware that the soon to be new President in the US is on tape talking about grabbing women "by the pussy"? Men talking about women's breasts, ass and genitals has been and is the norm. And what does any of that have to do with circumcision, which I (a woman) do not support in any event.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:29 PM
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You flat out said: "Voting logically not emotionally" and that voting for Harris because she is a woman is "an emotional vote."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:47 PM
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Leaving aside the inaccuracy of your claims that: (1) men are logical and women aren't and (2) the logical vote was Trump not Harris, plenty of women voted for Trump. So why aren't you satisfied that women are logical enough to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:11 PM
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A sexually liberated free spirit has just as much right to say no as a puritan virging. And saying no to a sexual encounter does not mean you are asking to be treated as a puritan virgin. JFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:12 AM
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This is justifying rape. If a person consents to sex with person a, b and c, that person loses the right to say no to person d? Under your "reasoning" it would not be rape to have sex with non virgins since they previously consented to sex with somebody else. Your comment is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:10 AM
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It's an unprovable and unproven anecdote that many women have breasts that are that are visible in t-shirts that are regular-fit (as opposed to slim fit)? You can't be serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:59 PM
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Why so emotional? This is a debate sub and I have just as much right to post my views as you do. What do you think you're accomplishing? You're free to talk about access to sex to your heart's content and I'm free to think it's a gross way to describe having consensual sex with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:44 PM
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Doesn't the woman showing up and having fun, interacting with you, etc count as effort? What would reciprocation be? Paying for the next date or part of the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:04 PM
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I would always split a first date unless the man insisted on paying. But you didn't answer my question: what do you think you should be ensured to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:57 PM
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I NEVER said it is dehumanizing to view women sexually. What I said is that talking about "access to sex" is dehumanizing because sex is not a resource to access. My point has nothing to do with women who are doctors, landlords or employers and your professional interactions with them. And again, you bringing them up misses the point. Housing, employment and medical care are resources. Sex is not a resource.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:43 PM
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It seems pretty clear what you get--to be on the date with her and do the activity with her. Is there something else you believe you should be ensured to get? Look when I dated, I either split or switched off who pays, so I never insisted that a man pay. I dont believe the man should always pay for dates. And I advise women to do the same in part to avoid the issue you appear to be suggesting: some men who pay for dates feel like they should be guaranteed sex because they paid for your coffee, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:22 PM
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Well one glaring difference is that it is a teacher's job to teach, but it is not a woman's job to have sex with men, unless you are hiring a prostitute. Plus the fact that you think sex is just lije education proves my point that many men on this sub think women are resources not people. Education is in fact a resource. Sex, and the women with you have it, are not resources. Finally, education is provided to the student. Unless you are hiring a prostitute, women don't provide sex to men, it is-…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:21 AM
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The way some RP men on this sub talk about "access to sex" is a prime example of treating women as resources and not humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:18 PM
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If you're talking about raising the age of consent above 18, then I think very few people would vote for that. If you're talking about raising the age of consent from 14 to anywhere between 16 and 18, then that would probably get more votes, and I think that's fine because no one in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and above should have sex with a 14 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:57 AM
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You already had a post about this. Yes the old farts, male and female, and the 18 year olds have the liberty to have sex with each other. Just as people who find that gross have the liberty to say "eeew" when they hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:52 PM
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The thing is, it isn't the SAME choice as the woman because only women can get pregnant. An abortion is defined as either the deliberate termination of a pregnancy or the expulsion of a fetus from the uterus by natural causes before it is able to independently survive. An abortion can only happen to a pregnant woman. So calling it a paper abortion is a complete misnomer because when an abortion happens, there is no fetus, no baby born. With a so-called paper abortion, the baby exists. The existe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:07 PM
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I only mentioned 14 year olds because you mentioned changing the age of consent from 14 to 16. Agree the 18-16 year old situation should not have been prosecuted and a 6 year sentence was absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:20 AM
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Well, we will agree to disagree re age of consent. I think it's needed and I agree with 18 as age of consent and with Romeo and Juliet laws. I don't think it's ever a reasonable choice for a 20, 30, 40 , 50 plus year old person to have sex with a 14 year old in 2024 in the Western world. Further just because a girl has reached the age of menstruation, happening frequently at under 10 now, I do not believe she is fair game for adults to sexually pursue. I also don't have any heartburn over the ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:01 AM
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I think for some people it can be generational. My parents were of a generation that sex and menstruation were never discussed. I tried to do better for my children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:33 AM
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First, I think large age gap relationships can be problematic for both teen boys/very young men and teen/very young women. The fact that it's often seen as only problematic for teen girls/very young women reinforces inappropriate gender stereotypes about both men and women. Second, no I don't think that the young person/teen who chooses to be in a large age gap relationship is entitled to approval over their choice, just as the older person isn't. They have the legal right to make the decision, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:58 AM
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Most US parents provide guidance to their teens and early 20s kids on all those topics. Most parents don't stop being a parent at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:37 AM
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18 year olds in the US are considered legally capable of consent to sexual acrivities. So yes 18 year olds have agency and assuming they freely consented without coercion and weren't raped, then yes it's legal for a 40 year old to have sex with them. So yeah if a 30 plus year old man (or woman) only wants to pursue 18 year olds, there's no law preventing it. But that isn't enough for these men or the men who obsessively and repeatedly post about large age gap relationships with 18 to 24 year old…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:34 AM
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Essentially then you want women commenters to assume that every man who struggles with dating and who says negative and misogynistic things on line, is able to successfully hide that negativity and misogyny in all his interactions with women, so that can never be the cause of his dating struggles? That seems as unrealistic as anyone claiming that intuition is infallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:17 AM
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I'm not projecting ideas on to you--I asked questions because it seems weird to me to have a purple pill or red pill man saying there are scores of bad men out there who hide their misogyny well and women will never be able to tell. Also, I never said that women's intuition was infallible. I said the opposite so perhaps you're projecting your weird ideas on me. edit: fixed typo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:43 AM
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But what about when, as is often the case, the poster is actually saying things that are desperate, negative and misogynistic? Posts with desperation, negativity and misogyny are typically the ones that elicit the comments you object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:34 AM
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When you say "who knows how many you didn't catch", what is your point? Is it that most men secretly hate women but hide it well--that's a pretty negative view of men that I don't think is true. Is it that you are happy that some "bad" men pass the sniff test and women get hurt as a result--that's pretty disgusting. The reality is that gut feelings about people are not an exact science. Why are you demanding that it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:18 AM
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Ah ok. No Worries. Yes. u/MikeArrow did limit to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:24 AM
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I dont think that's accurate. There are plenty of men on this post saying women have everything easier than men, not just with respect to dating. Yes some have responded that it only applies to dating but there are many comments saying it applies to women's whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:15 AM
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It sounds like you are talking about white collar-type jobs. Is it your position that this happens in every white-collar field? If that was true, women would heavily dominate white collar positions, but that's not the case at all. Women and men are employed at roughly equal levels for entry and mid-level white collar jobs. And men, not women, predominate in management and executive level positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:04 AM
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It seems like you're assuming the male competitors are more qualified just because they're men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:06 PM
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it doesn't answer the question. I asked a question that was triggered by, but not answered by, your comment. Obviously you don't have to answer, but why not just say that rather than pretend the answer is in your comment when it isnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:10 PM
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Yep. You mentioned emotional damage and related it to lack of relationships and sex. Hence my question--are you saying women cause men emotional damage by not entering into relationships or having sex with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:45 PM
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So are you saying women cause men emotional damage when a woman doesn't have sex with a lonely man?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 07:27 PM
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Women are capable of doing all those things. Women have worked in factories as long as there have been factories. And with respect to creating electrical grids are you really claiming that there are no women scientists and engineers who participated and continue to participate in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:42 PM
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This post and many of the responses are saying men don't need women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:52 PM
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A woman saying she doesn't need a boyfriend or husband is saying just that. And that statement can in fact be true depending on her circumstances. It sounds like you're just upset that many women in fact don't need a husband or boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:50 PM
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Are you saying a woman needs a man in her romantic or sexual life? It's been explained to you repeatedly that that is what women typucally mean mean they say they don't need a man. So are you saying it's a lie that a woman doesn't need a man romantically/sexually?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:40 PM
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Men who are income-qualified are able to get WIC benefits for children in their homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:54 PM
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Don't forget about Eve, in the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:40 PM
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So great, we agree that women have always been productive, creative and an asset to society. Are you claiming women have always had freedom and equality? Because that simply isn't the case. Feminism is responsible for the freedom and equality women in Western countries have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:52 PM
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Women have always been productive, creative and an asset to society. Feminism was intended to create equality and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:39 PM
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I don't think he cares how painful it would be. It's all about attempting a gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 02:43 AM
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RP may disagree with how to solve mental health issues But the post is saying government spending does not address any issues that affect men and the spending is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:06 PM
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One word answer to what this is: misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:35 PM
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The men and women who pay taxes though aren't receiving the welfare; the welfare goes to other people. Taxes aren't a direct exchange of money and goods between payee and government. Let's play your theory out. Should low income men receive "prostitute vouchers" instead of food stamps or housing vouchers then? Or are you saying that men who pay taxes should receive a "prostitute voucher" (or AI equivalent) in exchange for their taxes since they don't qualify for welfare? And what would women who…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 05:19 PM
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Welfare is not about providing women with what they want. Welfare is income based and is available to both low income men and women. Taxes aren't based on gender, they are based on income. Equating providing food stamps to help keep children and adults from starvation with getting sex is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:39 PM
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Similarly, eligibility for welfare is income-based, not gender-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:34 PM
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None of them are. Plus OP conveniently ignores the government spending on homelessness and mental health (which RP on this sub say is a male issue). For example, California spends sbout $72 billion on homeless issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 04:22 PM
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Some of the questions in that study that RPers always cite as their gotcha asked about lifetime intimate partner violence. Because lesbians sometimes are involved with men before coming out, some experience IPV from male partners too, not just female partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 07:04 PM
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Classic moving the goal posts. I was explicitly responding to your blatantly false claim that 99% of villains are men. I said nothing about victimhood--that's your projection and your view of men and women. Not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:01 AM
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It's comical that you apparently think husbands never rape or kill their wives and that those crimes are only committed upon single women by their boyfriends. That's not logical at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:56 PM
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That is demonstrably false. A couple examples: the Bible teaches that women are evil--see Eve and original sin. According to that story, a woman is the cause of humans being cast out of paradise. Most of the fairy tales and stories told to young children feature women--the trope of the evil witch, evil stepmother--as the villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 11:46 PM
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What are you talking about it being 100% on the woman legally if she is pregnant and not married? The RP men on this sub are constantly complaining about being liable for child support and wanting "financial abortions" in such situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:17 PM
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He is the one recently posted that women are incapable of logical thought. A real peach of a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 09:05 PM
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Who calls an 18 year old doing Only Fans empowered? That's not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:08 PM
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Just FYI plenty of women are still sexual after menopause. .So no sex isn't temporary for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:56 PM
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There are a lot of things to dislike about California Governor Newsom, who is becoming nationally prominent, but he does speak about two issues often mentioned on this sub as male issues: homelessness and mental health. California has about 172,000 people who are homeless and spends approximately $7.2 billion a year on the issue. California also spends about $6.7 billion a year on mental health. Now whether this spending is efficient or effective is subject to debate. But the fact remains that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:04 PM
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I'm very curious about that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:30 PM
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You know what, I was relying on an earlier article. I apologize and will delete my other comment. It's a sad statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:59 PM
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So you admit seeing the posts and comments from a "bunch of dudes". There's the proof. You just choose to characterize it as them not being "upset". Your characterization of the posts and comments, which explicitly discuss the 4b movement, does not refute the existence of those posts and comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:56 PM
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Your own article demonstrates that the only group of women where a majority of voters voted for Trump was in a particular age group of white women. Maybe you only read the headline? You debunked nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:27 PM
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If you want to deny the existence of those posts on this sub--some of which I believe you've even commented on--it just provides further evidence of your bad faith debate tactics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 07:23 PM
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55 percent of white women who voted did not vote for Trump. A small majority of white women in one age group demographic voted for Trump. Get your facts straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:58 PM
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On this sub, it's also repeatedly aimed at women who have been subject to domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:37 PM
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Well they're certainly on this sub. Since last Wed there are multiple posts a day from RP men complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:34 PM
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52% of white women voters did not vote for Trump. That stat only applies to a particular age group of white women voters. Get your facts straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:32 PM
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52 percent of all white women voters did not vote for Trump. Get your facts straight. That statistics only applied to a particular age group of white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:08 PM
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The majority of all women voters voted for Harris not Trump. There was one age group of white women where a slight majority of white women voted for Trump. This sub needs to get it's facts straight and stop lying that the majority of women voters voted for Trump--they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:03 PM
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In community property states, its not half his stuff. It's half of the assets they both acquire during the marriage, i.e. their stuff, not his.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:23 AM
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First, it's not half of women. It was approximately half of whitevwomen in a particular age group who voted. Second, it's not a sexist attack for women to say they aren't going to fuck men. Third, i have no problem with men venting and saying they dont want to date or have sex with women because they dont want to risk getting a woman pregnant. The problem is when it goes from venting to calling for women to be raped or have their rights taken away, etc. And fourth, re your excuse for being trigg…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 05:15 AM
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Of course, the first line of attack for red-pill leaning men, insult the intelligence of the person you're debating. So unoriginal. Yes, you said many women but your post is still a very broad brush. It's not "so many" women blaming men, it's a fraction of some women on Reddit. You're also conveniently ignoring the many posts on women-oriented subs talking about the percentage of white women voters who voted for Trump. People who voted for Harris are disappointed and upset. Some of those people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:43 AM
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And yet here you are saying women en masse are hypocrites and sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 04:04 AM
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How are men en masse being punished?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:47 PM
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I think chasing teenagers is the plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 06:08 PM
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I didn't tacitly admit anything. And your statement that "more women are able to show income to apply for SNAP food vouchers" makes no sense. It's the lack of income, i.e. income below a certain level, that qualifies a person--man or woman-- for the program. The income qualification is the same for single adults, whether man or woman. You made the claim that SNAP shows systemic bias against men and you have failed to back that up with any evidence. Nor can you because the requirements for eligib…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 04:35 PM
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I have no idea how you got that from my comment. You claim that the fact that 60ish percent of SNAP recipients are women compared to about 40ish percent ofcrecipients as men reveals systemic discrimination against men by feminists/women/the government. That is false because eligibility is income dependent and not gender based. And SNAP isn't "income" as in a cash payment. It provides food vouchers. Low income men are eligible just as low income women are. It is not an example of bias against men…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:52 AM
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Eligibility for SNAP is based on income not gender. It's not women's fault if low income men don't apply for SNAP benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 11:08 PM
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It is a valid response to your post, which presents your feelings not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 12:47 AM
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If people are repeatedly "litigating" the definition of the words you're using, it's because you're not using the words correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 08:29 PM
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For many men on this sub, it's always about sex with the mythical Chad. edit: fixed typo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:03 PM
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Wow, now I'm smug and dishonest as well as lacking self-awareness? Why is it so hard for you to debate someone without resorting to insults, negging and unfounded speculation about a person who disagrees with you? Even if you take the routinely out, my point still stands. Women in general do not tell their men that they had frequent and better sex with their exes. And you have provided no evidence to show that they do. Unless maybe your only "evidence" is your negative view of women, which isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:31 PM
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Why do RP'ers always resort to personal insults and negging? And aren't you claiming you're right? Somehow that's ok, but me thinking my point is valid is not? I'm more than capable of conceding a valid point. Your claim that women routinely tell their men they had lots of better sex with their ex is not a valid point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:01 PM
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It is a much more reasistic scenario that a woman, when asked by a current partner for anal, might decline, and say she did it previously and didn't like it or it was too painful. It strains credulity to claim that women frequently tell their current partners, hey, BTW, I used to have "frequent and enthusiastic" sex with my exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:46 PM
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How in the world would you know if she had frequent and enthusiastic sex with an ex? Just because she's not a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 06:16 PM
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No. If women treated all men as potential rapists, women wouldn't have any intimate relations with men or marry men, or even be friends with men. Some women are cautious with strangers, which is smart and something men should probably do too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 05:51 PM
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This question is asked repeatedly by RP'ers as an attempted gotcha for situations where a woman tried something sexually with a past partner, presumably didn't like it, and doesn't want to do it again with a new partner. The new partner is now upset that they're not getting "access" to what the prior partner did. It's a stupid analogy, comparing dinners out to, for example, painful anal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:13 PM
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I love how the OP posed the question to men and women. But whenever a woman answers the question, men jump in to tell her she's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:48 AM
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Then by this reasoning I assume you'd be ok with women treating every man as a potential rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 03:36 AM
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Vasectomies don't cause impotence, which is the inability to have an erection. It causes a man to not release sperm and only release semen when he ejaculates, hence he can't get a woman pregnant. Men with vasectomies absolutely can have erections and are thus not impotent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:42 AM
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Well, the Gisele Pelicot trial happening now in France--where over 50 men raped her unconscious body--is certainly not urban legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:14 PM
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I don't have a problem with sex. That's a strawman. I have a problem with coercive and abusive conditions that many prostitutes deal with, as in the story that was linked. I'm glad your friend doesn't have to deal with that but many aren't so lucky even where it is legalized. You're apparently ok with situations as in the article. I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:32 PM
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Does the "everyone who lives life as normal" include the prostitutes? You have no way of knowing the true living and working conditions of the women in the brothel. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 04:38 PM
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But somehow it's OK for RP men presume to know how women feel or what women want?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 11:10 PM
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I think it’s bizarre too. I certainly don’t do it. But I don’t think a woman is necessarily a slut just because she does it. That’s all; just a difference of opinion. Thank you for your civility.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:23 AM
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I did not imply that. I was simply short-handing thirst trap as showing skin. That may be a generational thing as I suspect I we are from different generations and my generation doesn’t really use “thirst trap”. The “and” is that I agree with the commenters statement that your definition of slut is aggressive because it includes women who may not even be sexually active but who post pictures that you characterize as thirst traps and because it includes monogamous women in LTRs who engage in kink…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:10 AM
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I do not think women showing skin is inherently sexual; that's you. You are defining slut to include a woman who may not even be sexually activev just because of the pictures she posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:46 PM
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So a monogamous woman who engages in kink with her partner is a slut? And a woman is a slut just because she posts pics that show skin even if she's not actually having sex? That is aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:30 PM
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Your response in essence: baseless insults about intelligence and reading comprehension; seething anger; misstating my arguments and arguing against irrelevant points I never made; asserting patently absurd arguments like all or most women are attracted to serial killers; outright contempt and hatred of women. What a classic example of RP histrionics. And yet in all of that bluster you still failed to say what exactly it is RPers think women aren’t taking accountability for. You have still faile…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:05 PM
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It's crazy how triggered you are by the simple biological fact that it takes a man and a woman both to get pregnant. How exactly is it being adult and accountable to take the position that only the woman is responsible for becoming pregnant? You are also misinformed re the abortion restrictions. 19 states have draconian first trimester bans and an additional 5 have second trimester prohibitions. RPers spew this nonsense about women having no accountability for anything in their lives. It's compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:06 AM
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Enjoying a fictional book is not the same thing as being attracted to toxic men IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:31 PM
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You do know that a woman doesn't get pregnant all on her own right? And that in almost half the states in the US women have no choice whether or not to abort? And that the father has an obligation to raise the child just like the mother? Is there anything in the world that isn't the fault of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:27 PM
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Excellent observation. They are somehow masters of the universe while simultaneously being unable to master their own domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:05 PM
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Re your last sentence--Of course there are unattractive men who are of good character. Who has trouble admitting that? The problem is the false dichotomy being incessantly repeated on this sub: only attractive men are abusive, unattractive men would never be abusive, and women deserve the abuse they receive because they had the audacity to be with a person they initially found physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:38 PM
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That may be what some mean when they say that. But the majority of RPers making that argument are saying it in the context of not being picked, i.e., the old saw that women reject "nice guys" in favor of abusive bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:42 PM
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I mean that's the argument made repeatedly on this sub by RPers about women who have been subject to domestic violence and even rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:47 PM
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So your position is that male lawyers are victims of their lazy former wives? That is delusional. Edit to add: The systemic bias against women in the legal field is well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:29 AM
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Law school admissions are about 55%women. Are you saying because there's a slight majority that automatically translates into a bias in favor of female law students? That's not the metric. Which gender makes up most of student clerkships? Law review editors? On campus interviews? And yes what happens in the actual practice of law is relevant and it is decidedly male dominated in positions of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:36 AM
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What things?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:56 AM
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Are you claiming there's a bias against men in law school or the legal field? That is not true. Men make up the vast majority of equity partners in law firms and other senior positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:55 AM
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What do you think the biggest change is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:52 AM
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Choking should not be considered a vanilla, standard sex move. It's potentially very dangerous and even fatal. Enthusiastic verbal consent should always be sought before choking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:56 AM
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The post I was responding to was speculating that "obese middle aged women" can go on a dating app and get "flooded" with male attention. I have no idea what the true intentions of these hypothetical men are. But given the vitriol against overweight women (aka "land whales") and middle aged women (aka "past their expiration") that is spewed by RP'ers on this sub, it strains credulity to argue that overweight middle aged women on dating apps are drowning in men seeking relationships. But hey, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 12:50 AM
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I along with other posters listed the additional rights rights at risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:27 PM
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Exactly. What "power" does an overweight woman have simply because some man may want to have sex with her? How does that alleged "power' translate into anything of value in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:44 PM
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And women! There are plenty of chubby couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:42 PM
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If it was about being pro-life, women wouldn't have to be dying of sepsis to obtain needed health care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:28 PM
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Why do we have to ignore tge loss of the right to abortion? It's a huge loss. But in any event, the concurrence in Dobbs put the right to birth control, same sex marriage and inter racial marriage in question. Project 2025 also threatens those rights. Some red states are criminally investigating miscarriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:26 PM
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It was his picks that led to the overturning. Plus Trump has repeatedly taken credit for the overturning based on his Supreme Court picks. At least be factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:12 PM
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Do you bother with women then? I assume not given your stated belief that they are dishonest, unprincipled cowards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:58 PM
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What in your view are men's natural sexual advantages and how are they being hindered?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 08:48 PM
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Claiming that the housing crisis is the fault of women has to be a new low for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 12:05 AM
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What do you mean not granting paternity requests? If you're speaking about the US, there is no prohibition on men requesting and receiving a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 05:34 AM
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You have provided no credible source for the claim that paternity fraud is the case for over 30% of all births.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:37 PM
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One out of every four men is not the victim of paternity fraud. That's a blatant over-exageration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:28 PM
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The plan would be for the dad, as determined by the paternity test, to co-parent the child with his ex-wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 09:15 PM
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You think that sexist men are relegated to the sewers? Be serious. And no to 1 through 3 and 4, it depends on the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:48 PM
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Are you really blaming women who have survived sexual assault for being sexually assaulted? That is not "actually" true. The rapist exercises his (or her) free will in choosing to rape. The rapist is 100% responsible. Period. Yesterday there were RP men arguing in the post about Gisele Pelicot that it was reasonable for men to have sex with her unconscious body. RPers make comments like this and in the next breath complain that women are cautious with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 04:42 PM
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This was not shared sex. This was a decade of men raping an unconscious woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:32 PM
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This is exactly right. The books do not portray bdsm accurately at all. BDSM is based on explicit consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:15 PM
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She was drugged to the point of unconsciousness. So I think it would be a stretch for them to claim it was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:35 AM
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Is there anything that isn't womens' fault according to the RPers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:44 AM
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Exactly. Many RPers on this sub believe (incorrectly) that pretty much all rape accusations by women are lies. So let's talk about the rape and molestation of boys that happened by a coach at Penn State and the rape and molestation of male hockey players by coaching staff at the Chicago Blackhawks. Both of those incidents were covered up for years by those institutions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:52 PM
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Believe women and investigate. The practice for a very long time was to not believe women and to not even investigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:49 PM
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I mentioned that case on this sub the other day. The RP'ers have no response for it because it undercuts their false premise that men who appear "normal" would never rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:46 PM
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Do you also think there are more men who have committed suicide because of a false accusation than there are women who have been raped? Or women who have been raped and then murdered?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:30 AM
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Wait--are you claiming that before the me too movement women didn't fear getting raped? Edit--you changed your comment. it said women fear women before
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:25 AM
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By your reasoning then, all men are responsible when one man rapes. That is not how this works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:57 AM
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It did not create a culture of fear. Women have feared rape forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:54 AM
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What caused it was one person's bad actions. This post and many others talk about how women shouldn't be cautious around all men because all men don't rape. But because one woman made a false accusation that means all women are lying and must be silenced? That's inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:35 AM
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Where did I say I endorsed a person making a false accusation? And yes, I am on board with survivors of sexual assault, male and female, feeling comfortable in sharing what happened to them and with having all claims investigated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:22 AM
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I believe everyone should be taught about consent. Why is it a problem to teach men and boys about consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:58 AM
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His suicide was tragic. What do you think about the hundreds of thousands of women and children who have been raped and murdered over the millenia? Do they count at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:47 AM
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No. It created a culture where women who survived sexual violence felt a bit more comfortable talking about what they went through. Why is that a bad thing? And teaching people about what consent means is a good outcome because it is designed to prevent rape in the first place. Why is that a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:39 AM
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Agreed police should take all reports of sexual assault seriously, women and men. That still doesn't routinely happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 11:26 PM
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In fem-domme relationships the man wants the woman to dominate him and consents to it. It's not by non-consensual force.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:51 PM
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Why do RP men mention "tingles" so much and so derisively? It's strange. Most people want to be with people they are sexually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:32 PM
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Wait, I thought women chased bad guys who are selfish, emotionally unavailable and abusive? Now you're saying women chase HVM? Are HVM bad guys now? It's so hard to keep track of the RP mythology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:28 PM
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I'm not saying it's not a challenge. I'm saying that, with creativity, a woman can still be sexually satisfied with a partner who has ED issues, especially in a loving, committed relationship. And I'm most definitely not a troll. Just a woman who loves great sex and knows how to have it. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:29 AM
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Right. The men who are violent aren't responsible for their violence. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:54 AM
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Where did I say that physical violence is ever acceptable? The point I'm making is that putting people into two categories good v bad is not helpful. Sometimes people who appear "good", who have never been violent before, can become violent. And thinking that a "good" person could never do something bad is not reality. I'm not saying bad people are actually good--I'm saying it's not always easy to tell at first and sometimes people who you never think would be violent, so-called good people--can…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:52 AM
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Your world view of men is very black and white. Men are either "good" or "bad", nothing in between and no nuance. A "good man" would never commit domestic violence. That's not reality. Ask anyone who works in that field. The person (man or woman) who is violent is the person responsible for domestic violence. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:34 PM
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Ah yes, that old chestnut--women are primarily responsible for being abused by their partner, not the partner that is abusing them. Tell me again why the person being violent isn't responsible for their own acts of violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:14 PM
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OMG, dude, that is too funny. I actually laughed out loud at that response. Best of luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:10 PM
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It says a lot about you as a person that you resort to dehumanizing half the world's population as simply a receptacle to masturbate into. But, hey, you do you and try not to drown in your bitterness. I'll stick to my belief that most men aren't like you (and OP) and are for the most part normal, well-adjusted and don't hold delusionaly hateful and negative views of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:08 PM
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Again, wrong. You don't seem like a particularly creative lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:51 PM
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So you want to have a partner who is a routine liar and who wants to be with a manipulative, selfish and unavailable man? I get that it if you are manipulative. selfish and unavailable yourself, but if you're not then again it makes no sense. Why would you want a partner you think so poorly of? Just because you're horny? Honestly, that's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:49 PM
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According to OP, the alleged true nature of women is that women lie routinely and only want manipulative, emotionally unavailable and selfish men. In that event, there's nothing to engage with because it's delusional. Plus, if that is truly what you and OP believe is women's true nature, I don't understand why you would want anything to do with women at all. Why not just go your own way and leave women alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:38 PM
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Not true. I know plenty of women (including me) who have expressed sexual dissatisfaction with male lovers who offered ONLY an erection and stamina.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:55 PM
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This guy gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:55 PM
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I'll give you a hint: answer is E, all of the above. Just like many men don't enjoy sex with a woman whose only game is lying on the bed, many women don't enjoy sex with a man whose only game is jackhammering.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:49 PM
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I think the point is foreplay matters and makes a huge difference in sexual pleasure, at least for women. Jumping right into jackhammering without oral or clit play first generally isn't very pleasurable for most women. Also just jackhammering usually isnt the best sexual experience for most women. This post seems to completely disregard that. But I guess jackhammer away if you want to believe OP. I suspect you may not get many requests for a second encounter though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:37 PM
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Expecting an open-minded response to a post claiming that women routinely lie and secretly want emotionally unavailable, selfish and manipulative men is both unrealistic and unreasonable. An open-minded post merits an open-minded response. The OP is not thst. Plus, how exactly does the OP's cartoonisth characterizations help things or find solutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:08 PM
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Sorry--I intended my comment to respond to OP, not your comment. I think OP misses that nuance, not your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:49 AM
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You’re missing the key nuance about the “bad boys” in these romance novels—usually they are good under the bad boy shell.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:15 AM
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Again who is blaming innocent men? If you're saying that a woman taking precautions in the future after being hurt by a "bad" man, that is not blaming innocent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:55 PM
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Who is saying that it is? OP invented that strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:54 PM
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What specific actions are women asking innocent men to take as responsibility for the actions of bad men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 06:50 PM
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WTF is "actual rape"??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:19 PM
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Like how you're generalizing about all women here? The lack of self-awareness in your OP and comments is laughable. edit: fixed a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:18 PM
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Education is really important. Will education stop rapists like the man on trial in France who routinely drugged his wife for a decade to the point of unconsciousness, invited men over to rape her unconscious body, and filmed the over 70+rapes? No, because that is evil. But will it stop some date rapes or other rapes? Probably. Especially if we teach not just no means no, but if we also explain that practicing yes means yes is a really good way to ensure that the sexual partner you're engaging w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:35 PM
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And there are countless women who have died giving birth to their husband's child. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:53 AM
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No. I'm asking how you define it because you make the sweeping claim that all women fail to give any basic decency whatsoever to all but a small minority of men (Chads?).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:26 PM
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How are you defining basic human decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:34 PM
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Then a fairly negotiated pre nup, signed well before the wedding date, with both parties represented by counsel to protect your premarital assets is your friend. Hating women is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 12:19 AM
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Those stats are questionable. The 80% derives from a discredited dating app survey. And the 10% is a gross underestimate. This sub is full of posts from men complaining both that most North American women are overweight and that overweight women are repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:53 AM
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That's great that you are nice and kind. But from what I've seen, and from comments and posts I've read, many unattractive women report feeling invisible to men, just like many unattractive men report feeling about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:12 AM
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And men treat unattractive women differently than attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 11:44 PM
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So then you would agree that there would be no "right to try" in the hypothetical I posed (the one you referred to as rhetorical and hyperbolic)? You say a no means no would still apply, but how do you account for situations where the right to try effectively eliminates the other party's ability to say no because the touching has already occurred?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 12:49 AM
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It's not a hyperbolic or rhetorical question. From a perspective of criminal prosecution, I generally agree with a no means no standard, with nuance. For example, a person who is unconscious can't say no, yet that can still be rape. And I am about as far from what you call a puritan as you can get, but I nonetheless think that asking for consent is a good model to follow in how one interacts with others because it can eliminate uncertainty or confusion. Plus being asked for a yes can be really s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 11:13 PM
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Seriously, there's a post from RPers almost every week on here complaining that single mothers are horrible and raise horrible children. The OP completely ignores that in claiming bad mothers are never discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 07:15 PM
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Indeed many women simply scratch that itch themselves, and frequently too. It's a lot safer than hookups and orgasms are guaranteed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 12:39 AM
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It would be helpful in trying to understand your position if you would provide clear and concise examples of what you mean by the “right to try”. For example, a man or woman in a relationship is fine going in for a kiss with their partner without asking for a yes first. But I’d argue that it isn’t acceptable for a stranger to walk up to me grab my face and try to kiss me without asking. So what does the “right to try” mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:49 PM
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That response is overly dramatic and reeks of a persecution complex. And no I'm not calling the (metaphorical) cops. Being creepy isn't illegal, it's just ... creepy. I've never seen someone so offended by the suggestion that you should ask for permission before sexually touching strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:32 PM
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That isn't what yes means means. It simply means getting affirmative consent before sexual contact. You added the requirement that the yes must be joyful, presumably so you could have something to be outraged about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:50 AM
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You already posted this nonsense three months ago. Yes means yes is topping from the bottom--which persuaded no one. Do you not have any new thoughts? Why are you so obsessed with wanting to touch women without asking consent? It's creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 01:34 AM
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That study does not support the proposition that one third of all women engage in foodie calls. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:54 AM
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Are we starting on the "the only good woman is a submissive woman" nonsense again? And "love" isn't the correct term for what those men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:50 AM
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First, I never argued that Disney shows a balanced portrayal of good and bad characters. Nor did I even bring up Disney--the OP did. I'm arguing that for RP men to say that the take away from Disney movies is that women are perfect and magical is absurd. To have that view, you would have to ignore the key antagonists who are driving the plot--the villians, many (if not most) of which are women and they are portrayed as evil. It also ignores the fact the male heroes in the movies are portrayed as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:36 AM
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It's also really funny when RP men point to Disney movies as standing for the proposition that all women are wonderful magical creatures. What about all the evil witches/stepmother? Also they conveniently ignore that for every perfect princess there's a perfect Prince Charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:34 PM
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How shocking for a pro-lifer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:00 PM
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Wow, this is a whole new level of fat-shaming. Do you have any credible data to link obesity during pregnancy to maternal fatalities?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:57 PM
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This is a really good point that is usually ignored. It's also worthwhile to define what a single parent is. A parent who has primary custody where the non custodial parent is actively involved with frequent and routine contact with the child is not in my view a single parent. As to the OP, you're assuming that in the stereotypical single mother situation that there is an involved and available father who wants custody, which typically is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:54 PM
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Unless you're in a monogamous relationship you should absolutely not skip the condom with anal. STIs are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:10 AM
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Did you ever consider that those "purity cultures" teach women that they should never say no to their husbands' requests for sex, whether they want sex or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 12:19 AM
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What is fun? And a woman who is sexually liberated would presumably have no problem saying yes to sex if she wants it--that's in part what being sexually liberated denotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 11:32 PM
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I agree this is a ridiculous take. It's true that wives shouldn't "mommy" their husbands. But the examples listed in the OP do not constitute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:38 AM
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Did you read the article? It also says that the crime would not have been as horrific if one of the passengers had called 911 so that law enforcement could have intervened sooner. My post is pretty clear on my objection. I specifically stated that no one had an obligation to physically intervene. I find it really sad that no passenger called 911. And I specifically object to you laughing "ha ha" at the fact that no passenger called 911. Do you get off on the idea of women being raped? Because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 11:20 PM
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You think it's funny that woman was raped in public and not one person, male or female, could be bothered to call 911? How is that "equality"? I don't think anyone was obliged to physically interevene. But for no one to call 911? Your glee over that is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:36 PM
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So in your world view: (1) only a handful of women have jobs and pay taxes; (2) men receive no benefit from infrastructure projects; public transportation; public utilities; medi-care; free public schools; police and fire protection; General Relief payments to indigent people; free food for themselves and their indigent children through TANF and other programs; air traffic safety; libraries; parks and recreation areas; OSHA regulations for safer work environments; and vector control--to name jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:45 PM
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Credible source for the claim that the average woman gets $100,000 to $200,000 a year from the government, all of which is paid only by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 05:59 PM
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Adding safety and protection to the list of things that women aren't entitled to opens the door to an interesting question--protection and safety from whom? The answer to that question in large part is men. That adds an interesting dynamic. Are women entitled to not be physically asssulted/beaten/robbed/raped/murdered? I'd argue that both men and women are entitled not to be assaulted/attacked/murdered, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 12:36 AM
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Credible source for the claim that only men pay taxes and only women receive welfare-type benefits, and that those benefits are purely for low-income women and not also for low-income men and low-income children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:06 AM
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Why do men on this sub keep giving the analogy of a boss? A husband isn't a wife's boss.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:16 PM
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It is a high bar for an adult to give up their opinions, desires and autonomy and agree to obey their spouse and submit to their spouse's " authority". I haven't seen any men on this post saying they'd agree to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:14 PM
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You are moving the goalposts. You said a wife must be submissive. A woman doesn't have to be submissive to have good values/good personality or to be trust-worthy, fun or positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:03 PM
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Most women don't want their husbands to be their boss. Why do only wives have the obligation not to be argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:56 PM
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Are you defining mentally healthy as being submissive? Because that is what OP is asking for, a submissive wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:51 PM
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Right. Your unstated position is just that the husband has the final say on any issue in dispute--beause the wife must submit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:33 PM
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Your use of the word authority is telling. The concept of agreeable/submissive that OP, you and others are espousing rests on the principle that the man is the authority. The concept sets the man up as the ultimate decision maker. The concept expects the woman to ultimately fall in line with the man's final decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:15 PM
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So if it's just semantics, then you'd agree that men should be submissive to women too. If it's just about not being argumentative with your relationship partner, then men and women in a relationship should be submissive to each other. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:20 AM
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So men should be agreeable in a relationship too, if that's all that agreeable means. Men shouldn't start random arguments or be insufferable either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:07 AM
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You said submissive, not non- argumentative. They're not the same thing. Also, shouldn't both the man or women in a relationship be non-argumentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:15 AM
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You're asking the question on Reddit, so of course you're getting the experiences of women on Reddit. If your position is that women on Reddit don't have similar experiences to women not on Reddit, and hence you deny the truth of what is being said in the comments, why did you even bother making this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 05:58 PM
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On this sub you probably need to add /s. Great response, though, for such a ridiculous post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:06 PM
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My comments were made in response to the comments above that claimed men are disposeable but women aren't because society says women have inherent value. I agree that you didn't use the term disposeable. I think the concept of inherent value is hard to define. I would posit that all people have inherent value by virtue of being born human. I don't think inherent value is tied to a person's genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:18 PM
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So it really isn't that women are more inherently valuable than men, it's that men have strong sex drives and want to have sex with women. Under that reasoning, women are just as disposeable as men. If men are just disposeable cannon fodder (as often argued on this sub) then women are just disposeable holes to fuck. I don't think that is true for either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:30 PM
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Wanted for what and wanted by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:09 AM
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What is their inherent value?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 12:06 AM
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Saying no IS clearly stating a boundary. No is not ambiguous. The idea that a soft no (whatever that is) isn't really a no lacks any evidentiary support. Likewise there is no evidentiary support for the proposition that only an "assertive" no (whatever that means) is a real no.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:28 AM
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You assume men don't understand a no, but you haven't demonstrated that lack of understanding what no means is the reason why rape occurs. The word no is not complex or complicated. Claiming men don't understand it is at best infantalizing men and at worst excusing rape. Teaching people that no means no is straight forward and creates a bright line rule, which if followed, will result in rape not occurring. Teaching men that no doesn't mean no and instead requiring women to say no over and over …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 04:08 AM
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No for their infants and children. Indigent men are eligible for other welfare benefits for themselves. If a father was also pregnant, post partum or breastfeeding then they would be eligible for themselves, but that would seem to be a rare situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:24 AM
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Fathers can apply to receive WIC benefits for their infants and children. it's clear on the website that children and infants are categorically eligible, so fathers can apply for benefits for their infants and children 5 or under. Pregnant, post Parfums and breastfeeding mothers are also eligible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:20 AM
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Fathers are able to receive WIC benefits., so your premise is incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:02 AM
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I think holding people to a standard of not grabbing the genitals or breasts of strangers is pretty damn reasonable, wholly unambiguous and not prone to weaponization. I also fail to see how it would be exhausting to follow a rule like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 10:55 PM
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Is it your position that it's arbitrary to decide that it's harmful for a stranger to walk up to me and grab my breasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 07:09 PM
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what is the moral/ethical problem with the receiver--the one being kissed, whose genitals are being touched and penetrated--dictating the details, outside the bdsm context?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:18 PM
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OP reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of bdsm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 03:11 PM
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You're responding to an argument I didn't make. I didn't say interact. I said physically touch in a sexual manner. You've still failed to explain why it is racist, puritanical, or genocidal to say a stranger should ask before touching me in a sexual manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:18 AM
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unwanted-ness is not an aesthetic concern nor does it mean whether you liked it. it is about whether you wanted to be touched or not, which goes directly to consent. You are creating a new definition of want to fit your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:14 AM
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a person absolutely should be able to control what another person physically does to them sexually. OP provides no legal, ethical or moral reasoning to rebut this very basic premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:02 AM
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it's not a presumption of it being bad. the presumption is that you don't have the right to touch me sexually if I haven't consented to it first. ETA--Are you advocating that you have the right to touch a stranger's genitals, or breasts or hug them or smell their hair just because they haven't yet told you no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:51 PM
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yes means yes does not assume that sexual touch is bad. It simply posits that before you touch someone sexually, you ask to make sure the recipient is amenable to your advances. It's a pretty simple, human rights based concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:38 PM
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It is in no way terrible to say that you should ask before hugging someone. People have the right to not be touched in a sexual way without their prior consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 09:04 PM
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OP conflates yes means yes with topping from the bottom. Topping from the bottom is a purely bdsm-related concept. Yes means yes is not a bdsm concept. They are two completely different concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:42 PM
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Topping from the bottom is a bdsm term and is inapplicable outside the bdsm context. Moreover, bdsm itself is based on affirmative consent of both the top and the bottom. Only after both the top and the bottom have explicitly consented to their respective roles does topping from the bottom even come into play. OP essentially takes the position that a person can do anything to another person until they say no, which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:03 PM
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From the original post: he said she told him she wanted to be more than just a "hole" to him. She wasn't asking for a commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:40 PM
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thank you! So sick of the MRAs and RedPillers misstating these statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:47 AM
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