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This dude was spamming every thread i engaged in and flooding my inbox after I made it clear I had no intention to engage with him. That is harassment behavior, and I had to block him to get it to stop (and i only unblocked to engage with other users in sub threads i found myself unable to further respond to). I do get to decide that. And if youre going to mod me for THAT, you're a terrible mod who doesn't know how to do your job properly. Seriously, "you dont get to decide that", what the heck …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 04:53 PM
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You know, when I first found this place, I thought I finally found a decent sub. Between the MRAs on one side, and the feminists on the other, most gendered politics sucks. Feminism makes good points, but they're hypocritical and want rights for me (women in this case) but not for thee (men). On the other hand, MRAs, in my experience, are toxic, basement dwelling neckbeards who hate women. And I dont make that comparison lightly. Incels literally are a thing after all. Anyway, the two sides of t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/02/22 04:53 PM
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No, no, screw off with your personal responsibility and sex shaming. No. Sex isnt consent to pregnancy. Screw off with that crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 10:47 PM
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Get that **** out of here. You're blaming men for everything but then saying women dont consent to pregnancy. That's some BS right there dude. No, sex isn't consent to having kids. While people should prevent negative outcomes, sometimes **** happens. And because women carry the child it's ultimately up to them. They can deal with the consequences. i'm not debating this further. You're just repeating the same nonsense I dont accept.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 10:30 PM
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Having sex isnt equivalent to consent to being a parent. Dont go "my body my choice" then act like the child existing is a 50-50 proposition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 10:14 PM
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But it's the woman's choice if she didn't want to raise a kid by herself she should exercise it. Don't rope men into being a piggyback for your bad decisions. Also I do support ubi. So...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 06:31 PM
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First of all I support a ubi. Second I don't give a **** about "furthering my biological line." My point is if the choice rests solely on the woman, so should the costs of raising it if the man isn't on board. Child support is a relic of the "patriarchy" as feminists call it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/02/22 05:55 PM
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Uh, feminism (or critical gender theory) has been documented a lot within social science, from concepts like the glass ceiling to uneven distributions of housework among adults, to aspects of socialization that lead to various outcomes. The problem is, as you point out, a lot of the online adherents end up turning it into like a religion. Because it is. Social justice stuff very much goes beyond its academic credentials in mainstream culture and basically has a lot of characteristics of a cult o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 10:39 PM
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THis. Nuance is important. Either way something that annoys me about a lot of yang hate on the internet is YANG BAD BECAUSE HE ISNT BLAH BLAH BLAH 100% IN FAVOR OF MY EXACT PERSPECTIVE ON THIS ONE FRINGE ISSUE. it's something i see a lot on the left and it just irks the **** out of me. No one else is ever held to such insane standards and yeah, its just so annoying to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 10:24 PM
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Okay, I'll engage this one point BRIEFLY. Patriarchy theory has legitimate backing in sociology. It is a valid lens to look at the issues through. The problem is, like other types of critical theory, it has limitations and its adherents tend to treat it like a religion. Thats the problem with all ideologies really. You can have all of these ideas that make sense when looked at objectively and with moderation. The problem happens when you end up taking crap to extremes. That's the problem with fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 07:25 PM
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Yeah because i have literally better things to do than engage massive walls of text from people who hate feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 07:12 PM
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We get it you hate feminism. Im not engaging further. I have better things to do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 07:10 PM
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Ya know what, when I found this sub I thought I found an island of sanity. Finally a mens rights sub that doesnt either completely cuck itself to feminism, or on the flip side be absolutely toxic and anti feminist, but after engaging with many people here over the last day or so, I'm starting to have second thoughts. This sub absolutely does have a problem. As I see it, women have issues. Feminism is legitimate. My only gripe with feminism is that it tends to go too far sometimes and seem to adv…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 06:12 PM
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Holy wall of text dude. Ya know when I found this sub I thought I found an island of sanity on men's issues but this sub is devolving into the same mansphere anti feminism nonsense as all the others (other than men's lib which is toxic as **** in its own way). No it's not a zero sum game. Yes feminism has issues. It also has valid arguments. Yes the men's movement has valid points. It also has issues. Rather than devolving into our tribes and attacking "the other" I don't understand why we can't…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 06:06 PM
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He's been talking about men's issues on his podcast almost exclusively for the past several weeks. Jesus.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 05:54 PM
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Anyone can quote anyone out of context to make them look bad. Grow up. Either way, just one thing i wanna point out. I know this is a sub for male advocacy, but can we seriously stop minimizing womens' issues? Women absoluely should have reproductive rights, and there is some level of misogyny in our culture. Seriously. This is one thing that annoys me about culture war nonsense between mens right people and feminists, the two groups act like they're in a zero sum game against each other and it'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 07:38 AM
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I'm sorry to see you resort to dismissive sneers in response to my comment instead of more reasoned arguments. Merely labeling arguments against UBI as "bad faith" or "dishonest" is not particularly persuasive in the absence of a thoughtful explanation of why you believe this. And your arguments against UBI are the same old far left talking points. FTR, I personally am not opposed to UBI. My attitude towards it largely mirrors Michael Brooks's in this discussion he had of Yang back in 2019: if i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 04:58 AM
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He's always advocated for these issues. Read his war on normal people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:15 AM
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Honestly he's not particularly progressive. His basic income plan would have been great if it was in addition to the other important supports we give to poor people who are experiencing certain conditions, but he intended it (with Rand Paul's blessing) as a replacement of those exact programs. To be honest, he backtracked on the more egregious aspects of this, and honestly, welfare is trash. UBI SHOULD replace a lot of it. This argument against UBI is kind of bad faith. "Oh it makes them worse o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:11 AM
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Yeah he aint a democrat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:09 AM
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I think you honestly have a weird view on yang. I dont agree with him on everything (for example, i think wage labor is slavery and that's a core problem with society, i dont desire embedding men into the system with jobs and false purposes), but he's a very good advocate for men's issues overall. Also yang is anti circumcision to my knowledge.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:08 AM
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In the past Yang may have said some stupid things about men, but let's forgive him. Uh like? He's probably this sub's best mainstream advocate. Also yang isnt a democrat any more. he has a third party.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:06 AM
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Well, Im currently listening to a yang podcast talking about how men were expected to sacrifice and do jobs they hated to bring home the bacon, and then now feminists point at them and say "you're oppressing me, you're part of the patriarchy". But yeah. There's this real culture of machismo in work. Where men are supposed to be tough, and do the hard work, and not complain, and if you complain you're weak. And you're supposed to be the bread winner. And yeah, you're supposed to be miserable. Men…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 01:01 AM
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Traditionalism is just as bad -- if not worse -- for men. That's why you see more women holding traditionalist attitudes than men and that's why movements like feminism are riddled with traditionalism and chivalry. They are hypocritical on it but this sub is just completely off base on these weird traditionalist attitudes they're having in this topic. Either way, As I said, I REALLY dont want a protracted debate on this topic, because quite frankly, I dont give a ****. I approach the issues in a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/22 12:06 AM
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Look, I really dont wanna get in a long protracted debate about this. All I'll say is the opinions I'm getting off of my comments are very cringe, and seemingly anti woman and anti feminism. I can see feminism being criticized at times, but an important issue I see with a lot of subs dominated by support for men is sometimes they end up overcompensating and promoting traditionalism for women. Maybe there was a biological reason for the inequality, but still. Does that justify the inequality? Sho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 10:30 PM
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While it was a bit of a status symbol, we're not gonna agree otherwise as I feel youre understating women's issues with the work force, and I really don't wanna debate this further.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 07:59 PM
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I think there was intense cultural pressure and biases against women too. Let's not minimize things here. Our society was designed around men working and women staying home.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 06:24 PM
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Eh they faced structural barriers and were almost never the primary person to work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/22 05:18 AM
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And this is why i support financial abortion. As someone who believes wage labor in the US is set up as a form of de facto slavery, I'm against imposing unjust debts on people to take away their freedom and force them into work. It might have made sense, back in the old conservative days where men were expected to be the breadwinners of the family to have this system, but in this age of "my body my choice" (which i dont disagree with btw, just wanna point that out), and the fact that women can w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/22 10:41 PM
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Yeah the problem isnt women rights or advocating for womens rights. Its the critical theory nonsense and how its elevated to practically the status of religion. That and how a lot of hypocrites are like rights and advocacy for me but not for thee.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/22 03:34 AM
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Well, feminists are often otherwise culturally conservative when the issues we talk about arent their issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 01:49 AM
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Yeah. I'm full supportive of a woman's right to choose, but so many feminists will then turn around and go full on social conservative in discussing a man's right to opt out of parental rights/child support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/21 01:00 AM
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There are so many ways to say that without specifically mentioning her gender. "I Like Ike", not "I'd risk limb for him". It was formulated to highlight her gender. That's all it says "Intention to vote + her gender". Eh i think youre reading too much into it, quite frankly. Although to be fair she did make her genitals a central focus of her campaign. Don't worry. They're the basket of deplorables. Yep, they dont even want people who arent woke. or to put it in other terms: "for every working c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 02:20 AM
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Yeah true. I know of the kind of people you speak of, sadly. I'm sorry, but im not one of those people. For me it's always gonna be economics first, idpol second.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 01:08 AM
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Yep, came over in 2012 through the atheist movement (deconverted from christianity around that time). Also, the right kind of suggesting people on unemployment can **** off and starve so rich people could get tax cuts came off as wild to me. Between the two I ended up developing my current politics which is more yang gang than anything else. And yeah, post 2014 you guys have made a terrible case for promotion. I never would've come over if the current democratic party and left at large were call…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 12:26 AM
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The idpol in 2008 was crazy. I was right wing at the time, but it was hilarious watching the "if you don't like obama you're racist" and "if you dont like clinton you're sexist" crowds arguing with each other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/11/21 12:13 AM
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Seems to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 05:58 PM
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Eh labor seems better than than democrats in the us at least. Starmer seems useless though. In America I'm starting to support third parties. I don't care if they lose. I can't support either major party any more.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 05:57 PM
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I don't buy this. I see people say it a lot. But I'm of the opinion real structural change only happens from the top down.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 05:56 PM
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"I'm with her" was an explicit call to her gender over Bernie's. Eh, while i agree with your sentiment on the bernie bro narrative, this specific line was more about party loyalty and "voting blue no matter who." Now, her literally making "woman cards" and selling them on her campaign shop when accused of "playing the woman card"? Yeah, THAT was an explicit call to gender. I would have loved to see Bernie v. Trump. I think America would have voted in a socialist given those choices but even if B…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 07:34 AM
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I dont think any real "leftist" likes kamala. Just the democratic party supporting craplibs. They think they're leftists though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 07:30 AM
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Its not just warren. it's freaking hillary. She's the one who started this crap in the 2016 primaries. She created the bernie bro narrative. She single handedly derailed sanders and buried his campaign under a bunch of idpol BS. If you didnt like hillary, you were a sexist, you didnt like her because she was a woman. if you supported stein, you were still sexist because you didnt like the right woman. It was toxic as fudge. Warren just decided to score cheap political points by leaning into that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/21 07:29 AM
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Men facing violence from men sounds exactly like right wing arguments about black on black crime to me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 06:27 AM
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I've seen it mentioned a bit when i surfed AITA before, but I'm convinced that sub is full of toxic people with really crappy attitudes toward things. It probably isnt male exclusive, and sometimes its difficult to say. Like me, im autistic, and some types of chores literally dont click with me. I suck at them, and theres nothing I can realistically do about it. You can ask me to do them, but no, I wont do them right. i dont have the mentality, spacial awareness, or motor functions to do them ri…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/21 06:08 AM
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Lack of health insurance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 02:16 AM
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Being against paper abortion is, IMO, a conservative value. It reinforces traditional gender roles. But in a one sided way.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 02:16 AM
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LOLWUT. To be fair I unsubbed after the first time I was modded over literally nothing so i never stuck around long enough to really see how bad it was but that's ridiculous. But yeah this is my BIG "mens' issue". I dont want to be a father. Ever. I cant stand kids. I dont want to live my life in any way conducive to fatherhood. its antithetical to my being. But, if a woman gets pregnant or i get trapped, I'm screwed and have zero recourse. Even worse the idea that a man should pay up to take ca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 02:14 AM
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Because it's a forum thats essentially in support of feminism and doesnt allow even mild criticism of feminism. Theyre basically the same "religion" so to speak as the people who are causing the problems on the left. I got modded once for something light and i was like "screw this im out of here." I wanted a sub, ya know, like this, where we can SANELY talk about these issues without either being obnoxiously SJW OR toxically incel, and that obviously wasn't it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/21 05:42 AM
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Because their strongest advocates are right wingers who are stigmatized for all the right reasons. Its kind of hard to have a movement discuss men's issues when that movement is toxic and doesnt believe in materially improving the lives of people in the first place anyway. And feminists arent interested. "Privilege" and all. So basically left leaning men are an ignored demographic in american politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 04:46 PM
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Or they're misandrist because they base their identities around womanhood and see men as "the other". So they dont want people "joining" their little club. Again if the barrier between sexes is lowered, as it is with the transgenderism issues, what would they then be able to base their life around?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:31 AM
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I mean, I'm libertarian on these issues. If a woman wants to do porn, and a man wants to drop $800 for it, well, who am I to say they're wrong from a legal perspective? I mean, it's a voluntary transaction, there's no forced interaction (if anything I'd lean toward the women here because our system coerces us all to work to earn money needed to live, and they're just trying to make a living). So, idk, I mean, if someone is addicted, that's a problem, but I'm not really for regulating stuff. Just…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:30 AM
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No. Because my views aren't based around critical theory. And I've come to the point im distancing myself from a lot of parts of the left and I'm fine with that. On economics I'm far more left than right I would argue (unless you gatekeep left to mean literal socialism with social democracy being center/right), and on social issues I consider myself a libertarian, as in I support peoples right to do whatever they want as long as they dont harm others, and an implicitly supportive of egalitariani…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:19 AM
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No, social conservatism is. And while men are on average more socially conservative, well, defining it in gendered terms isn't very helpful, and its a toxic simplification of the issue. Focus on ideas, not people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:14 AM
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The problem with a lot of the far left social justice groups is that they're a hive mind. They don't allow any nuance and if you disagree with any of their ideas, they automatically assume the worst about you. You can be a reasonable moderate or even a more reasonable center leftie (supports most ideas without the crazy) but if you don't really get along with their hive mind, you're BAD in their minds and they treat you as if you were a right winger.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:13 AM
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Eh, I dont think that's accurate. I think it's more, they dislike trans women because they literally base their identities around their womanhood and if gender lines are blurred, then doesn't that diminish their identity and the need for feminism? I think that's what it really comes down to. Being inclusive to transgender people kind of upsets what feminism is about in their mind, and it undermines the need for their cause in the first place. Instead of simply seeing people as people they'd rath…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:10 AM
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Yep. Menslib basically modded me for daring to lightly criticize feminism and I hadnt been back since. I largely avoid gender based discussions because either everyone is a far leftists SJW or "feminist" or they're alt righters who legitimately hold toxic sexist views. Like....I cant stand much of the modern feminist movement these days, but then I look at the mgtows and the incels and I'm just like...yikes. I just wanna focus on stuff from a mildly left wing perspective without being insanely t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:07 AM
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I would use less gendered language, but I'll frame it this way. Much of american history has been about keeping groups fighting against each other in tribalistic ways to stop us from coming together and doing something to improve our material conditions. It isnt just a men vs women thing although that's part of it It's also black vs white. Straight vs LGBTQ+, etc. The fact is, the powers that be love to use these issues to keep the working class fighting amongst themselves. In 2016, we almost br…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:04 AM
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Because they're not really lefties. Here's the thing about a lot of the modern "left" within the democratic party, they're not really on the left. They're insufferably far left on certain social issues, but are otherwise conservative. So you got this class of feminist who is like, ABORTION IS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, AND IF YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN STFU. Everything to them is about it being a "woman" thing. it's intellectually lazy. There's no real reason for them to be against abortion other than i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 12:48 AM
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Yep. Last sub I came across like this ended up modding me because I dissed feminism a couple times. Like, the gender discussions are such crapshows. So much tribalism. The right is full of legitimate woman haters, and the feminist movement is unsufferable and obviously one sided. I just came across this sub after a guy i follow on here mentioned it and holy crap, it's like an island of sanity so far.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 12:35 AM
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