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The issue at hand is men are by and large valued for thier ability to provide and protect ( cornerstone of masculinity per red pill) MOST MEN can't fulfill that metric. Most men need to split bills with a woman- to a lot of women that is not a selling point, especially since dealing with men isn't easy or a necessity for a survival of women. Hence, the loneliness epidemic and why women are foregoing relationships with men. Having a roommate relationship with a man that you need to deal with is u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:17 AM
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I think most women are forgoing relationships with men since most men have no economic value that will benefit women while in a relationship. I think 45% of women will be single in 2030... I think that number would be higher. That means large swathed of celibate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 01:04 AM
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Again most men offer nothing- no full provisioning not upper class lifestyle so why would a woman want said man. Old men have NONE of those things since most of them are middle class and not attractive (compared to younger men) how many men are in upper class meaning $10 million or more? 5% of men. So why would a women want a gross old man who's middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:50 AM
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Again what men have isn't that remarkable when women have the same amount or more. Its funny that average men think owning a home makes them high value when women own more homes. Again most men don't qualify for being prizes and aren't remarkable but average and that's not good enough anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:45 AM
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More women own homes than men. So owning a home does not make a man top ten percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:10 AM
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No most women's standards go up as they age they accumulate more wealth so they can demand anything that they want. Most women, especially if their husbands passed away rarely get remarried, mostly because they don't need a man to survive. Women's interests in men is solely built on their need to survive.If she has her own money, she really doesn't need him. And going back to young women, as a young woman, I am not going to settle with the fifty year old gross old man who is middle class?And mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:09 AM
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Most women don't want you.You don't have enough money and you're not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:03 AM
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Finally some sound reasoning. Most men of any age are not considered attractive. In fact, most old men are seen as unattractive, because they neither have ENOUGH resources or the looks to attract a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:01 AM
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I would say it's exclusively wealth. Average old men with average middle class money are not considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:00 AM
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Women's interest DOESN'T go up with age. Infact it goes down as she accumulates wealth. Old men do take a hit because as he gets older, he's seen as a gross old man and the more money he has to acquire to be seen as attractive. Since most old men are middle class that's not attractive to most young women, she's tolerating him for huge wealth that he may have but middle class is not a huge amount of wealth. I say this as a young woman myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:58 PM
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Most older men are middle class, young women aren't clamoring to be with an old man that's middle class- That's gross. A billionaire or a man with hundreds of millions of dollars- Sure. But not an old man that's middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:53 PM
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Umm Id argue that men are more replaceable and more EXPENDABLE. The government has no problem throwing you to the war machine and getting rid of a whole bunch of men in war. In fact, that is a tactic if they want to reduce surplus men in a society is you send them off to war because you don't need them. Prizes are protected not expendable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:51 PM
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These men keep lying to themselves. If men were the prize them the majority of women would want them, but stats say the majority of women don't want most men, whereas the reverse is true. Most men want most women. Again, as others have said in this thread, men are wanted for their ability to provide and how many men can provide? seventy-five percent of men can't do that.So that makes most men unattractive. Old men need to be making significantly more money than their younger male cohort to be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:44 PM
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Most men are NOT wanted or desired. The stats show that. You can keep lying but that doesn't change anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:05 PM
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Most men would benefit from understanding that you need money and looks to get a women. If you don't have money to date- don't date. Women are expensive and most men can barely afford them. And honestly I wish women made themselves more expensive and inaccessible- men would change and you'd see less unmotivated and unambitious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:30 PM
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You have a point with the splitting bills- that's a roommate NOT a man. I can see why women aren't attracted to that arrangement and would rather remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 05:10 PM
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These men know that living a permanent life of celibacy is shameful and thats a path they are on because most women dont want them because most men FAIL at masculinity. Most men can't provide so what is there point
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:20 PM
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The walls are closing in on men.. they have nothing to offer that another WOMAN can't. These men can only offer 50-50 roommate relationships that YOU as a woman have to be happy with. They are no different than women you room with- there nothing manly about these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:15 PM
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If a man doing his basic masculine job of PROVIDING is an ATM then he needs to have his testosterone checked. Nothing more unmanly than complaining about doing the basic functions of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:07 PM
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I would never do Shrekking.. it never turns out well and you feel disgusted doing charity work for a gross old dude. I would advise against it. Most men dont offer anything but roommate situations where you do 50 50 and that just not attractive. I'd rather room with women and split bills that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 03:38 PM
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Typical unmanly emotional response from a low income man. The CURRENT definition, from an ACCREDITED source, of a provider is one that provides financial stability and resources. A synonym is: breadwinner. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/provider
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:00 AM
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Nope providing has everything to do with financially providing and maintaining the family otherwise, he has no business in being ahead of household or leader. Example: boss's must have money, equipment, and office space for employees to do their job, otherwise, he is not a boss in any sense just a loser. That's where the saying, "there's a cost to being a boss" comes from. You don't get to be a boss for free. You need to pay and you need money for that. Ironically, I believe that's one of the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:09 AM
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Income social proof are not vanity metrics. They are proof of a man's viability as a mate as is physical strength and health. Height and looks are debatable- but a man’s ability to provide and protect is the basics of what masculinity is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:21 AM
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But men aren't maximizing themselves for provisioning, they can't provide, hence why they've made themselves completely redundant. They're not grinding to fully provide, they're shaming women into settling for scraps instead of rising.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:14 AM
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Or most women who are financially doing well would rather stay single than be with an average man or beneath he financial level.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:45 PM
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Yes those men are invalid , not masculine or manly/feminine. Unless women get male parts and testosterone- yes she's a woman who births and nurses- thats inherently a female characteristic- men can't do that. Can women be masculine- yes they are if they are fully providing for themselves and family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:15 PM
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A and C.. physical attractiveness goes away after awhile. Finances are important to women and I'm not willing to compromise on that. As long as he's providing I'm ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:29 PM
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Eunichs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:26 PM
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Because women birth and nurse that makes them inherently feminine and women negate men can't do that. So men had to offer provisioning as an exchange otherwise why be with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:35 PM
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The golden girl situation is what men are offering these days. They want 50-50 roommate situations with male privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:33 PM
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Permanent and FULL provisioning- meaning a house in a safe neighborhood, organic food, clothing and medical to the family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:31 PM
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It absolutely does, can men have children and nurse- no!! So yes birthing and nursing is INHERENTLY feminine. You men don't even know what a woman is !?!.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:29 PM
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Then men should not procreate if they can't afford it. I encourage women to find men who can fully provide
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:27 PM
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No they don't, masculinity is a primary driver for why women are attracted to men. Men who can't provide in addition to being physically fit aren't men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:41 AM
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Ofcourse they do if they birth and nurse a man's child then he's needs to fully provide and protect. Otherwise he deserves neither a woman or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:36 AM
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Nope, I make sure the man pays if its a date. If its colleagues then we split. I had men try the coffee and walk date on me and I politely declined them. I did one of each- its stupid and only low quality men offer them. Dinner dates seem to have more serious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:16 AM
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A full provider and protector
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:28 AM
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Most men offer roommate 50-50 arrangements that's not particularly masculine or attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:26 PM
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The issue is men's financial dominance has greatly reduced so bus status has plummeted. Women have greater financial freedom now and can raise their standards to whatever they want to be or be single because being with an average man is not an ideal situation to be in for longterm happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:36 PM
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Because being with average men is a life of struggle and 50-50- that's unattractive and not good for long term happiness. Women would be better off with female roommates and splitting bills that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 04:29 PM
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Nope this is standards for most women. Im no different
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:05 PM
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Its is the basics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:04 PM
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Nope, not wasting time with low effort
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:31 PM
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This isn't rom Com standards this is bare basics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:30 PM
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Men provide that's the basics of masculinity. Otherwise he's a a feminine girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:44 AM
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Is so nice to see other women have high standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 03:02 AM
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I would agree with HIGH STANDARDS. keep them sky high and never put out until there's a ring on your finger. Make sure he COURTS you - no coffee dates or walks in the park until 3 months in and that should be once or twice during the entire courtship. And make sure he doesn't see masculinity as a burden- that's not a man and it's not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:58 AM
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No RICH men/women will control societies. In fact, drone technology and surveillance states pretty much make man power redundant. That's why wars that U.S. wages is mostly done by drones and not by male soldiers. It's a given that men will not be as useful (as we're seeing now with manufacturing jobs getting automated and men not keeping up with wages).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:39 AM
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Most men have no resources to FULLY provide
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:00 PM
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Honestly I think what men can offer in the market isn't acceptable to most women. Its comes down to finances
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:02 PM
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Sir you can't demand a single childless woman who's not fat into wanting a low income man- why should she be with you? Low income men aren't men- thats not manly. Why can't you get your money up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:50 PM
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Nope all a woman needs to bring herself... Men need to be financial providers if they want to be picked. Women need to bring nothing to the table other than maturing the offspring- thats it!. Men can remain permanent sexless eunichs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:46 PM
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As someone who is not fat or a single mother im definitely a gold digger- I'm not compromising on that and neither should women. A man needs to have $$$ otherwise why be with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:35 PM
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Thats BS and you know it. If men were not desperate, then only fans would never have taken off. Where are 90% of men are consumers of onlyfans. 90% of people who pay for sex ARE MEN. So yes, women see this and take note that MEN need to invest $$ into women if men want any kind of attention from us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:30 PM
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Listen Im definitely ok being single because they alternative seems unbearable. Men are looking for roommate and women are looking for providers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:21 PM
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What's holding you back is your salary. Women really can't get with men who they have to split bills with- she could just get a female roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 06:18 PM
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Women don't need sex our drives are much lower. That's why women by and large DON'T PAY for sex. Women only want resources that's it, men aren't even wanted for sex- most women don't want or need most men- only the top 15%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:11 AM
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Yes men's genetic lines wool be erased and so will their last names. Women have nothing to pass down so its all good. Men can die sexless eunichs
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:54 AM
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Most women dont want average men that they'll suffer with. No one wants these men they offer nothing but splitting bills with- how is that masculinity? Women would be better off rooming with other women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:56 PM
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Those guy is being emotional with you for no reason
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:54 PM
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While I agree with most of your post. Income and the ability to provide should be at the top on the list with character. Finances really do shape a relationship and its responsible for a woman to weed a man out for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 03:52 PM
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And men will be relegated to being a sexless eunich status (which is happening presently) just like in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:35 AM
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Then males should just become transgender women- that's basically what most men are these days. And why would a woman be attracted to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:12 PM
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The society is here, men have no masculinity, and women aren't attracted to these unmanly non provider men. That's why sexlessness in men is sky rocketing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 03:37 PM
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I will keep a pregnancy and put him on child support. Again cut your dick off or wear a condom if you don't want to pay. Take responsibility and man up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:11 AM
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Nope! Again get a vasectomy if you dont want to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:09 AM
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Again if you don't want to pay keep it in your pants. Because I sure will put a man in child support and send him to jail for non payment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:02 AM
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Again women aren't complaining about child support, men are... if men dont want to pay get a vasectomy. I will conceive but I will make sure the father is in child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:16 AM
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Men lost status and desirability when they couldn't provide and take pride in being a masculine man. Men are literally women with dicks at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:03 PM
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If men dont want to pay get a vasectomy- simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 04:57 PM
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And by that time men will be useless
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:06 PM
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Multiple, and you'll be waiting multiple centuries before we have mechanical wombs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:28 AM
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They've been doing this "research" for awhile and still nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:58 PM
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Only b1tchy emotional men beat up and abuse women.. thats NOT masculine. Tradional men= masculine. Traditional MASCULINE men have their emotions in check and are stoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 AM
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Men lost the plot on who they needed to be. Men in the past provided and protected- its tried and true and worked for men to get women. It's a formula that NEVER fails across cultures. It's American culture where men think it is cute to be feminine girls and do 50-50- that's not masculine. Until men figure out who they are in relation to women the sexless rates for men will just keep sky rocketing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:25 AM
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Not a single baby has been created by an artificial womb. NOT ONE.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:16 AM
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A man's ability to provide is not objectification its evolution if she's with his children who is going to pay for their upkeep. If women do 100% of the birthing and nursing then men should do 100% of the providing that's an equal relationship. Why can't men just pay 150k for a surrogate and 60k a year for a nanny?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:40 PM
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Men have also lost financial status to women and therefore women don't particularly desire men the same way. Economics heavily regulates the value of men. When the economy is bad the value of men goes down. Is it any coincidence that independent women and boss girl era speak started to take off during the 2008 financial crisis and economically we never recovered- so men's status never recovered. Most women see men as roommates to split bills with- that's highly unattractive to women when she can…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 06:50 PM
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This is basic knowledge- it's rooted in evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:24 PM
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This isn't a modern woman's preference, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY. It's only a problem now because men lost economic leverage over women and women lost their attraction to men writ large because you dropped in status.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:42 PM
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Sir most men can't afford multiple women. So dating multiple women gets expensive. And most women reject cheap dates, I know I do. That how when weed out losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:32 PM
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Women: I like men who make more money than me and can provide. I won't date and old man unless he gives me 10k a month. Old man: you gold digging b1tch.. how dare you reject me and not want me for free. Im fat, old, gross and broke so Im a catch .
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:27 PM
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I get to say whatever I want. I believe it's reasonable. My bare minimum standards is and was a provider. That's the basics because that's the culture I'm from and all the men in my family do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:22 PM
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Lol living in delusion isn't going to ease the hard reality. You have to have $$ to be taken seriously. You can't be a wealthy guy age be cheap with dates. Women just think you're a lying broke loser. Sorry you can't manipulate women any more, you have to have the $$
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 07:17 PM
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Women are not easy lays, otherwise we wouldn't have sky rocketing sexless rates in men. What you hate, is that women are increasingly more likely to not date men who less money. Capitalism heavily regulates the value of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 04:02 PM
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Comfort and social credit aren't on the radar, it's utility. His utility and ability to provide determines whether a woman will tolerate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:29 PM
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If men can't provide, or make more than a woman, what is his purpose? If woman can make money and live without a man. Where does he fit? Btw, capable men always had women because of their ability to thrive financially. That's not many of them. Those men ironically created a system we have today that renders most men economically NOT viable
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:06 PM
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Democratic socialism.. the brute capitalistic system is leaving most men and women out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 06:03 AM
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Its not hate, men are built to work and make money. Just like woman are built to have babies and nurse them. Its been this way since humanity. Thats how we evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:55 AM
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I have said this over and over again: men lost alot of leverage in the dating/relationship market when women got even more financial parity with men. If women have no financial need for them men's status drops. Men keep going around and around in circles trying to manipulate women and its not working. This is a very capitalistic system and men are judged very harshly by economic conditions and their value is regulated as such. Unless capitalism falls this is where we're at.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:31 AM
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Women have these 666 rules because settling for less is not acceptable. Women would rather go without a man than an average man you're not happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:35 PM
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We were never in charge, take some accountability.. but you males never do, it's always someone else's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:29 PM
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Bullshit, YOUR gender created this... go whine to them. Man up and go fight them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:14 PM
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Men created the system, women follow it. Top men enforce this system- go fight them. Otherwise get used to hypergamy. Ladies, never be ashamed to be hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:05 PM
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Empathy isnt one sided.. thats just abuse to expect it from people and not return it. If you want empathy you need to give it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:11 PM
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You're the one asking women to have empathy why should we?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:06 PM
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Sir, most men can't provide like men (including you). 85%of men make 100k or less you can't be a man with this salary. Thats why men are not wanted you can't provide anymore and you are obsolete and redundant
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:04 PM
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Or men can improve and get their money up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:56 PM
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Yes scott galloway and other several others.. its just common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:19 PM
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Men created the children so he should pay. Again get surrogates and nannies and pay them for children and rearing thats a $340k deal for you. Why is this hard. Why should women do this for free. If a woman wants a kid, I can go to the sperm bank for $10k and get pregnant and provide for the kid myself- men are basically obsolete. Again if IM with a guy he pays- period.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 11:17 PM
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This issue is that long term celibacy for men is not seen as healthy or optimal. Infact most sociologist deem a society unstable when large swathes of men are in that position. I know many men in this state and they are scary to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:41 PM
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Men have no empathy so why should women give any
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:54 PM
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Lots of people settle for individuals who they don't find attractive. Mostly because the people they want don't want them back. I will say most men are settled for, I was with men I settled for and its rough, you can resent them and they know subconsciously the he as a man doesn't measure up. I think that's why so many women choose to be single- it's easier and less painful than settling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:04 PM
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Again, he can pay a surrogate and nanny costs ( which is about 400k over the lifetime of the kids) if he wants a child. Otherwise he needs to provide. Why should a women do it for free? No woman should, that's why women are requiring providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:37 PM
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Its more than that, men rely on manipulation and that doesn't work either because most women aren't interested in any man in a non material level. Most men (I'd say 85%) don't have "material" wealth like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:32 PM
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And those kind of men are killed and bombed by another stronger group of men. Just like in America.- we kill and imprison men here. We need more jails ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:23 PM
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When will men realize that men lost allmost all leverage in dating and relationships. The moment women got closer to financial equality with men, men have nothing of value that he can materially provide a women. That's why men's status has fallen. The quicker men realized this, the better men can move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:50 AM
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You can look this up yourself, again facts don't care about your feelings. You men are falling behind every metric in society. I forgot to add men have higher dropout rates in school than women do. 90% of the prison population is male.. these are facts. But you're delusional and no one is buying it. Women know men are sinking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:44 AM
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There absolutely is a dire state of men. 80% of deaths of despair are men , 90% of homeless are men. 60% of men did NOT date or approach women in the last year. Male LONELINESS has been confirmed by EVERY sociology expert. Living in a delusion may work for you but the rest of us live in reality. Facts don't care about your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:31 PM
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And that is all. I dont need men period so he has to benefit me somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:01 PM
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And how many of them will face divorce? 50%. 75-80% of the time women file. Again, more men will face a future of sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:00 PM
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Aww facts dont care about your feelings. Enjoys the sky rocketing male sexlessness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:57 PM
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Ummm 60% of men haven't approached women in the past years nor dated, so yes they are not having sex. Its always been this way, most men in the past don't get to reproduce. We're just going back to that old model. Again living in your fantasy to ease the truth isnt going to fly with people who live in reality. Men need to except being sexless permanently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:25 PM
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Aww poor b1tchy sexless eunich... no one wants you i guess evolution is taking care of you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 05:21 PM
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Exactly, let theses men's lineage die its evolution
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:26 AM
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So what is this"man" doing on weekends. Does he not want to spend time with his children does he not want to be present for them. Not being a jerk and hostile is the bare minimum. Im sorry but these men should never have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 03:03 AM
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Most women aren't choosing most men... Most men aren't even the first option per dating stats. That's why there's a MALE loneliness crisis. And sky rocketing male sexlessness. Again facts don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 02:57 AM
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I wouldn't date a man who didn't give me princess treatment. Otherwise I could just be by myself or with girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:29 AM
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A man providing is the BARE minimum and basics of a man. I pity you if you struggle with understanding human instinct and you aren't going to shame women from that. And yes most women aren't attracted to most men, that's also biology and thank GOD for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:26 AM
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... he's not enough, men BECOME men. That's why women only go for the top Percentile of men and most men historically NEVER reproduced only a small percentage of high value men did. Clearly most men aren't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:55 PM
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Women have no problem with doing home making the issue is the whether men will respect a woman that does that. Does he abuse her and or treat her like a servant. Both male and female roles are worthy of respect. Men forget that. That's why women see no benefit in having relations with men because woman can provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:51 PM
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If a man cannot be a present husband and father while also providing, HE is NO MAN. That's basics of being a MAN AND human being. It's the bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:34 PM
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I could never respect the man who couldn't provide. To me, it's the basics of masculinity. I cannot respect a man who has no pride in masculinity and resented, being a man. I think that's it's a position. Most women take is that if a man can't provide she'd rather be single. If that means that the top ten percent of men or fifteen percent of men who could provide so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:30 PM
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Men don't like clear communication back without. Men crash out and get overly b1tchy and emotional using shaming tactics as to why she was direct with her needs. Ex.: women simply stating her standards especiallyif she is hypergamy. Men pms when women state them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:58 PM
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Men and women are not equal especially not in biology, when men start giving birth and nursing then, we can talk 50-50 relationships. Otherwise, men need to provide. Or men can pay 150k for a surrogate, 500 a month for breast milk, and 60k a year for nannies. The choice is yours
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:39 PM
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Thats reasonable ask for a women especially if she wants to be a sahm. Im not giving children to a man who can't provide
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:40 PM
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This is how our species survived. Deal with it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:05 AM
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Alot of good guys aren't good, they masquerade as one. Good men understand that they have to provide And protect without being resentful of their responsibility. Good men are active participants in their relationships and active fathers. Good men strive to grow and are ambitious. They are productive members of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:44 AM
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Look I wouldn't be with a man that couldn't provide and have the INSTINCT to. Its the basics of masculinity. Women are drawn to masculine men otherwise I would seek out other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:12 PM
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Because masculine men understand they need to provide and have ambition. Thats what testosterone is for, otherwise im dealing with another woman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:37 AM
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Too bad, then most men can live permanently sexless lives if they can't make more and provide. No woman wants a low testosterone low income loser
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:33 AM
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These men use shaming tactics when they lack masculinity and can't measure up. I will never marry or take seriously a man that makes less than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:31 AM
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The problem is the women he wants want a man that making $300k and 6ft tall and pays all the bills. Honestly I wouldn't date a man who didn't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:44 PM
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Look women dont want to be roommates with a man and split bills. I can find a woman for that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:49 AM
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Because most men are physically unattractive so the only thing a man can bring is finances to make being with him more palatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:26 PM
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I agree with your statement.. I may be more stringent. I will only be with men who can provide and yes that costs money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:25 PM
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Look, imo a man NEEDS to provide. That's the basics of masculinity. Women birth, nurse, and raise children the least he can do to fully provide. I wouldn't entertain men who can't nor would I give a man a child who didn't have these values.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:21 PM
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Most sahm are NOT putting thier children in daycare. Again SAHM put in the same amount of work as working men and sometimes more. All the women I know did that and never put their children in daycare. Also if he has to out in 14 hours a day for work then he needs a better paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:04 PM
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Well women are making money and living independently. That's the issue though. When women make more money men have MORE pressure to outearn him otherwise women would just stay single, there is no reason for a woman to be in a relationship with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 09:21 PM
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How about saying thank you to a woman the births your child, putting her body at risk, nurses these children AROUND the clock with NO SLEEP. Taking care of these children with NO DAYS OFF on top of cooking. 3 square meals a day so the children can eat... and you can't be great full for that. The least a man can do is fully PROVIDE- thats the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:24 PM
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Umm I dont think 3-4 dates is the expectation anymore. I think its probably 3-4 months. Otherwise there wouldn't be large swaths of sexless men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:49 PM
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You can't expect a thank you unless you give thanks to a woman. Are you grateful to her for taking care of your home?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 12:11 PM
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Yes, they, women, want men with effort. Otherwise, they aren't worth being with. Why would a woman be with a man who can't pay for dates and dinner.. he not a provider and therefore isnt masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:27 PM
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No, women ONLY want the top 10% more. The rest of the men offer no material benefit to a woman's life. Thats the correct phrasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:15 PM
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You make no reference to "courting" most women aren't doing "free" dates anymore.. thats not manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 03:17 AM
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But most single fathers are not millionaires. Only 15% of men 100k or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:09 AM
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I think childless women tend to be the pickiest because they are childless and second they're generally not fond of being step mother or like having husbands money going to another family. Hypergamy and all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:14 PM
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Oh no worries 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:09 PM
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I don't think single father's pool is larger. As you said women are pickier and single fathers have financial responsibilities to children that a childless women are less tolerant of.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:21 PM
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No what your seeing is more women remaining single (projected to 45%) because they rather be single than do roommate situationship with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:05 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:04 PM
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Just curious, do men room with other men too? I think that may be easier for people in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:26 AM
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Isn't their pool the same size as single fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:02 AM
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Ah, using the tried and true shaming tactics... not going to work anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 08:01 AM
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So what happens when her drive is much lower and doesn't want it as much. Most women’s drive is lower that is just a scientific fact. That's why women’s standards are so high and can go years without it. Does he force himself on her? I hate to inform you, women aren't driven to men for sex, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:43 AM
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OP is giving an example why women should NEVER settle and demand the most or stay single. Resenting a man I didn't want just to show the world I have a man, is degrading and miserable. I wish the world normalized women being single and not settling. Worst nightmare shudders
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:15 AM
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You are giving an example why women should NEVER settle and demand the most or stay single. Resenting a man I didn't want just to show the world I have a man, is degrading and miserable. I wish the world normalized women being single and not settling. Worst nightmare shudders
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:14 AM
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But men do justify leaving wives for gaining weight, being less attractive and this treating her poorly. Again men are not getting into relationships, writ large, with fat/unattractive/older women. It is expected that the man finds a woman attractive. How is it any different then women expecting financial provisioning as an attraction measure for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 06:07 AM
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"Otherwise it is just treating others as utilities and nobody wants to be a utility figure i.e. valued purely for what they provide and nothing else." Men still value women for beauty, youth and attractiveness and select for that.. why is that not shamed? Why dont men pick fat unattractive women writ large? Why is it when women value men for provisioning, thats the issue? Both parties value each other on utility, men just dont want it applied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:44 AM
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Sir Im not the one being emotional by using shaming language by labeling each consenting relationship where both parties get a benefit. You used those lables and I don't agree those are correct descriptions you created. They're consenting, mutually beneficial, relationships. You seem to have a problem with transactional relationships, when most relationships (business and platonic) are. Even parent child relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:17 AM
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Nice deflection, the point is married men still call OTHER MEN to do the masculine jobs a husband and boyfriend is supposed to do. When I go to the mechanics its mostly men there getting thier car fixed. The argument isn't that men aren't needed its just women don't need to be in intimate relationships with men for women to survive. Men and women outsource "masculine" jobs to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:03 AM
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Sir if your only argument is using shaming tactics where both parties benefit from a relationship thats on you. Shaming isn't going to work anymore and all it does is it comes across whiny and emotional. I realize your emotional reactiong to such an arrangement is because it doesn't overtly benefit you as a man. All relationships are mutually beneficial. Its been this way since the beginning of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:54 AM
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Becuase I dont use lables like you do to denigrate one form of relationship for another.. why can't these all be consensual relationships where its beneficial for both parties. You want to use shaming tactics because these relationships are not overtly advantageous to you as a man. Again why do you have a problem with these arrangements? You can more than opt out of it these things and get a MALE roommate and split bills and not deal with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:47 AM
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I knew the only comeback to a logical argument is shaming tactics that males use. Not going to work. Prostitutes sleep with multiple men, wives who are provided for sleep with one man... that's not prostitution and has NEVER been considered that. Again you you males only use shaming tactics when women expect more from men... clocked it. Its rather whiny and unmanly. Again nothing is stopping you from getting a male roommate, why aren't you answering the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:49 AM
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It absolutely is, a woman brings her softness, love, and sexual intimacy to a man in exchange for provisioning. That's an EQUAL exchange period. Otherwise, like I said, he should get male roommates and split bills with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:56 AM
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Honestly I don't think its wrong for woman to have a more equitable arrangement by have a man pay 80-100% of the bills either... to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:51 AM
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Because its my choice NOT to be 50-50. And if I wanted to split bills I would go back to finding a female roommate. I don't need one since I own my home and can pay it off.... not sure why I should share my space with a man to split bills with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:37 AM
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Maybe my experience is different. I had much more intimate ( nonsexual) relationships with female roommates than with men I'm in relationships with. Maybe it's the way men relate to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:19 AM
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There's LOTS of old bitter men too. I think they're more miserable than the younger ones because they were lied too about thier "attractiveness". When infact its much harder for them, and love is much more "transactional". There's a reason why male deaths of despair happen at much older ages for men. Its lonely and life is much colder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:12 AM
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The question I want to ask is why are men obsessed with the idea of going 50-50 with women? And beating women over the head with this expectation when they can just call it a day and GET MALE ROOMATES to split bills with. Why are men opposed to the idea of male roommates? Wouldn't that make life easier for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:59 AM
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No, that's a roommate situation and that disgusts me. Why don't men just get get roommates and split bills? Why keep beating women over their heads with these standards that women reject? Do you men not like other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:54 AM
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Yawn.. it didn't. It advocated for financial independence from men this removing any leverage you have over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:23 AM
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Feminism didn't ruin anything it just removed any financial leverage men had over women. Men can get it back by grinding harder and working a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:58 PM
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But what about older ones like 40s and 50s... they seem to be complaining the most but won't just go permanently sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:51 PM
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I think it's bigger than that, i think WOMEN have decided having sex/ dating men don't offer any benefits. Hense so many women foregoing motherhood and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:48 PM
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You assume women want labels and marriage from average men.. you assume wrong. women would rather be single than suffer with an average man. And you forget, women don't need men in their lives for survival so they can afford to have sky high standards because men are an option not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:44 PM
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Because men do the persuing. Otherwise men can remain permanently sexless. Why won't men just go celibate, why do men have an aversion to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:34 PM
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T and the divorce rate for this 50 50 relationships is really high. Why? Because women burn on from those 50 50 dynamics and its unfair. If women are expected to to 100% of the birthing (which can medically kill women and the baby and the toll it takes on you) and nursing then he should be expected to 100% provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:23 PM
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It will never die so long as women have the burden of birthing and nursing and child rearing 100%. Its
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:18 PM
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Because women EXCLUSIVELY birth and nurse children plus rear them. Its fair for a man to 100% provide. Its an even exchange
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:56 PM
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Its a blinking contest in the dating world. Men and women are using standards and expectations to see who will caven first. Because I believe men lost a lot of financial leverage over women and women not settling for average men anymore i think men will cave and react. Women's capacity to go longer or completely without sex will eventually break lots of men and I think you're seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:46 PM
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I think you're seeing men completely give up now and live with their moms. At least 20 % of men are in this situation. The reason why the economy hasn't crashed yet is immigration. Your last point highlights why the government keeps inviting immigrants- its to dilute men's salaries and flood the system with cheaper labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:49 PM
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Men are free to do whatever just like women are free to turn down coffee and ice-cream dates. As long as both parties agree to an arrangement no harm no fowl. Is there an aversion to men going celibate? Alot of issues would be solved if men went sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:17 PM
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I don't think they are. Most women are in these parasitic 50 50 rrelationships. If men provided better and women demanded more from men things would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:59 PM
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Again being emotional and unhinged is clouding your reasoning
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:45 PM
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Reread what I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:44 PM
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And I can call men like you who think women are prostitutes for requiring resources in order to birth children, sad incels. If you want to use shaming language I can too... I can also say men who want free sex are gross disgusting losers who deserve to be made fun of. Again whiny shaming tactics aren't going to work anymore. It just means you lost. Providing is inherently masculine trait since prehistory. Whining and crying about it isn't going to change that fact
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:41 PM
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Stop being an emotional b1tchy man and use a coherent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:44 PM
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Look, these men want you to go 50-50 with them while doing 100% of the birthing, nursing and child rearing AND being "submissive" to him. These broke bums want submissive providers. That's the entire crux of the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:20 PM
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That's basics of courtship, if a man asks a woman out he pays and she says thank you- that's it. If you don't want to pay for dates YOU initiate just stay celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:11 PM
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Enjoy being replaced! I for one celebrate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:04 PM
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Honestly, I wish more women were materialistic. It would weed out so many more men, that maybe men will finally get it together
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:02 PM
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Sorry but appreciation is a two way street. Men need to be appreciative in order to be appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:39 PM
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And men can keep b1tching about not being appreciated in the US and you men will keep getting ignored and sexless and taken for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:36 PM
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Noble is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:21 PM
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So you're making the original point, if asexual women are dead weight then non provider men are dead weight to a relationship. You can't only have it one way
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:56 PM
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You men something for nothing and that's not equality it's entitlement. Men aren't loved for nothing deal with it. You can cry all you want. Im glad women are demanding providers and overlooking most men. It's the way nature intended:)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:46 PM
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I know you're trolling, money is absolutely important to a relationship and men have been providing since pre history. And women will continue to make that a standard for masculinity. Emotional shaming isn't going to change. And no one is falling for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:41 PM
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Prostitute is shaming language for the angry broke man or incel who can't afford a women. Most men with money have wives because they provide like men. You're upset because YOU can't. You want to use emotional shaming language when providing has been done by men since prehistory. FACTS don't care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:35 PM
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I know you're trolling . But men absolutely can use women for sex.. and a common practice. And no, it's not mutual. Women have a FAR less desire for it than men do. That's why men PAY for sex at extremely far greater rates than women do. And women know this. Sex, like money, is fundamental to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:30 PM
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That was the point I was making men deal with women for sex and women deal with men for provisioning men and women engage in similar behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:14 PM
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More shaming tactics males use when you can't make a point. You can't b1tch all you want but sex and $$ are BOTH important to a relationship. Go cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:00 PM
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To you second point: you're being purposely obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:58 PM
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I never understood the submitting part. Why should women submit to a man when women EQUALLY contribute to a relationship, with man providing, by doing 100% of the birthing, nursing and child rearing. We are equals here. You don't submit to an EQUAL you collaborate with her. H
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:48 AM
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More emotional shaming tactics when you can't make a cogent argument. Deal with it, provisioning is the BASICS of masculinity. You will not SHAME women out of it or have us lower our standards to an unmanly non provider man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:24 AM
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And you chose to engage in shaming tactics by calling a women wanting a provider(which is the basics of masculine and manliness since the beginning of time), a parasite.. males engage in this emotional behavior when they lose an argument. DEAL WITH IT, providing is the basics of masculinity, period. Every HOMINID has had to do that. He'll male PRIMATES provide and protect. You dint get to have a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:17 AM
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Deal with it. Men want women for sex and women for want men for provisioning. I can reverse everything you just said and claimed "if there was no sex or sexual incentive to be with a woman" men see no point in being in a romantic relationship with a women. Which is true!! And women accept that and aren't b1tching and whining about it. Men don't get to be loved just because...why? Because women aren't loved by men just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:10 AM
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No for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 09:03 AM
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Lool!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:20 AM
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Feminist don't have an outsized emotional reaction on this at all, it's almost ALWAYS a man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 06:08 AM
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Most high earning men also marry with in their income brackets too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:15 AM
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Men absolutely do not want the truth that's why they're so delusional. And lash out emotionally when the truth is told to them. Ex: women wanting a provider man. That's the truth its rooted in biology. But you can't tell men this or they spiral.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:04 AM
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These men are hurt that desire isnt mutual and only a select few men can get that. Looks and money reign supreme
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:53 AM
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Its not an urge.. we can go YEARS without it. Why do so many widows not need to get married again? They dont have the drive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:51 AM
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This right here. Men project thier needs onto women as if they're the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:50 AM
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Most relationships were business deals in the past. They were marriages of convenience. She birthed and nursed children and had to be intimate with him and he provided EVERYTHING. Infact most men didn't get women because most men couldn't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:17 PM
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Women get used for sex so why shouldn't she wait until he's invested time and money into her. I really like that the sea is changing and women are getting less "easier" for men - its a long time coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:48 PM
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Thats a WHOKE LIE. You don't see successful men befriending exconvicts or homeless men out of the blue, ENMASSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:40 PM
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Thats how men treat women anyways. Look at men in these sexless relationships- they're miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 08:38 PM
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I see.you want to use shaming language like sugar daddy. Not.going to work. Masculine men grind, work and make more money than the women and must be are stronger physically by being in shape. Thats the basics of masculinity. You're not going to shame women out of this requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:57 PM
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Lol living in a fantasy land, attractive men get divorced and cheated on all the time becuase they dont make enough money or less money than the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:53 PM
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Physical attractiveness isn't enough if he's average financially. That's not what makes a man masculine. Its provisioning. No amount of look maxing is going to overcome that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:35 PM
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For some reason men operate on delusions that they should be liked just because when other MEN don't seem to view men like that st all. Infact men refuse to be friends with men just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:31 PM
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But no one is genuinely liked. Men do have to provide something to be valued. Just like women women have to provide birthing and nursing of children and caretaking, they have to have intimacy with men when most women have lower drives. Men shouldn't be treated any different.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:28 PM
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Conservative values also means very STRICT heteronormative gender roles that most men resent and can't fulfil and conservative women demand. I lean religiously conservative and I can tell you men who can't be masculine and can't provide arent men in my family's eyes. Hell the men in my family would be disgusted with a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:46 AM
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I don't think its politics related but financially related. Men who are in the top 30-40% of income level will be okay (men who are willing and able to provide the most to a family). The rest of the men not sure. I do think the either men adapt to heterosexuality by being largely celibate permanently. Its grim for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:42 AM
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Theses yt men are still chasing non yt women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:38 AM
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I said Why should women give sex for free.to men when escorts charge. Men are demonstrating sex is transactional. The same can be said about OF (of which men make up 90% of the customer base). So again why should you, as a man, demand free sex. guess men arent logical creatures and only use emotions when making an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:56 PM
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You demand women give men free sex.. delusional entitled men at its finest. Take accountability and man up, you dont get to demand sex from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:38 PM
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Look at comments from men in ppd when sexless men are brought up, all threatening violence on society because no one wants to sex them. Keep gaslighting but it's not working
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:43 AM
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Yes, clearly men are transactional with it. Women should never give sex for free, ever. Hell escorts cost $1000s of dollars why should women give it away for free
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 08:41 AM
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Women can choose not to have sex if they don't want. I think its good men are sexless. We need to promote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:17 AM
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No most of those men are not in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:16 AM
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Sir then remain sexless.. but you can't. Men threaten violence when that's an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:15 AM
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These men want to play dumb. Men are the reason why OF is in business they want to gaslight and deflect like always- no accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:13 AM
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Because men put soo much emphasis on sex.. you men literally give the game away. You guy bitch endlessly on hoarder of men remaining sexless permanently. This is why women hold it over your heads, its what YOU men demonstrate is important to you. So yes, women should be transactional with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:06 AM
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The irony is that that a man like you thinks he know women better that ANOTHER WOMAN. Stay in your lane
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:53 AM
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All the men in my family can provide, and none of them.complained about women SAH. They picked partners that knew what it meant to be a mother, and they, as men, could be trusted to provide like MEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:48 AM
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Nope, a man contributes by financially providing- its un natural otherwise and feminine. Its gross, unmanly and against God. You should not be near children. A woman stays at home and raises children. Point blank. Otherwise a woman should find another woman to raise a child with if this is the kind of man she's dealing with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 05:11 AM
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Women will respect a man who can't fulfill masculinity and provide. I have dumped such men like this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:34 AM
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Women willingly go for the stronger men, no graping necessary. They're the real men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:39 AM
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Women, regardless, are put in that position. it's just that when men act up, we collaborate with your enemy to take you out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 12:00 AM
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Umm as a poc woman I can tell you being a yt man isn't enough. He needs to pay, and yes I think i know my demographic better than you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:58 PM
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Being a sexless eunich or monk isn't optimal but a lifestyle..I think we need to promote that to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:33 PM
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At that point men will likely get killed by the stronger male group that women collaborated with. I know I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:30 PM
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Speak for yourself, most poc women aren't lowering themselves with a substandard white men. I've only dated long term with yt men with my level of education or more and they have to properly court me. Most poc women are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:28 PM
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Why should POC women suffer with low value white men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:21 PM
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Men will be rounded up and used in the grinder in Ukraine lol. If men want to act up women have always collaborated with the enemy to take the men out.. better watch out!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:52 PM
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Women aren't committing 99% of murders and grapes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:37 PM
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The problem is that the latter part of your discussion leads to men being functionally sexless. I think perhaps we need more discussion about accepting and promoting sexlessness in men because its the only way forward
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:34 PM
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What you wrote is a bunch of projection. Women aren't asserting themselves not because of rejection but because of VIOLENCE that women face at the hands of men. Men are far more emotionally disregulated when it comes to rejection and women with boundaries. That is a fact. Hell I've called the police and HR on multiple men who thought they can cross boundaries with me. Women need to realize MOST men can't meet "manly/masculine " definitions and therefore its better to remain single. The hope is ,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:28 PM
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As a woman I really don't see the point of men unless he's spending money on me. I can't tell tell you the last intimate relationship I've had. I date casually as well but no intimacy which is the ideal way for women to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:11 PM
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Women like the provider aspect of republican men however many men hate being providers and resent that role. women can sense the resentment and lose respect for that man quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:04 PM
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I agree I think send them to an isolated island to find for them selves. No contact
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:38 PM
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How about choose better!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:35 PM
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Men are the one complaining about CS.. man up and stop having sex if you dont want to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:34 PM
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How about men take responsibility for their own birth control. Or stop having sex if you dont want kids. Men are allergic to accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:39 AM
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These men wont go to prostitutes becuase they're expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:47 AM
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No one is manipulating a substandard man. It's substandard men that don't know that they have to do more to compensate for being ugly, old, fat or poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:28 PM
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But the so called average men are NO better and have similar personalities but just poorer- what woman would want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:16 PM
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Your not being leeched off of.. your are getting paid. If anything women get leeches off of.. NO ONE pays women to have a man's babies, nurse them and take care of them. Most women have to HELP men provide now, which should be his SOLE responsibility as a man. And Yes, women get to decide what is an attractive MANLY man- a man thats financially successful. Average men are not that and therefore not manly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:07 PM
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This doesn't solve anything, many men DON'T want to pay because they feel entitled to it. Escorts are legal in Japan and men still live sexless herbivore lives. Because paying for sex long term is not sustainable and now you have a ecosystem that now makes sex even more of a transaction. What woman would give a man sex for free if other women are getting paid for it? Chad or not- im getting my money. Only fans exacerbated the transactional nature of sex even more, that's why even more men aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:21 AM
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Men get PAID for those jobs.. you're NOT doing that for free. That's why women find men so unmanly you don't get kudos for doing a job you're getting PAID for. Man up and go to work like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:55 PM
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I think you're missing the point. Women are NOT responsible for men's behaviors.. thats On men who commit.crimes. Men really are allergic to accountability- its everyone else's fault for them being violent. Literally childlike and they wonder why women disrespect them so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:36 AM
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It not status it's basics of masculinity. Women judge women on the men they have. If a man needs to go 50 50, women will assume he is a broke, low value loser and the woman can't do any better because she's ugly or has an impedimentand. That's why women would rather be single than be embarrassed to be seen with average/ low value & non provider men. Btw lots of married women clown women for their choice in loser men- not just single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:25 AM
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Masculinity is what its abaya been defined as : to provide and protect. It's innate in men to do so. Just like with women it's to nurture and care for young and week.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:54 PM
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I don't see that happening
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:23 PM
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No that's in ANY country. Invading armies realize there's division and leverage that, whether its to recruit and subvert the dominant native male population
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:19 PM
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Lmao.. do you hear yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 06:15 PM
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4 will have the most probability but an outside hostile country will likely take advantage of the internal turmoil and invade. Them native men really dont win in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:15 AM
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I really think men have really just become women and feminine themselves. The masculine men have largely went away with the lowering of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:15 AM
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Men's have literally rocketed.. while women's have been stagnant. Tbh, men really brought this on themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:12 AM
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It absolutely does.. Men will always be removed and discarded before they are a problem for the following reasons I provided. They are never a protected class of people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:45 AM
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And yet women still have jobs and can live independently. Also the government knows that they have China and Pakistan on the boarders and can have women collude and have India invaded. Women/minorities have been the biggest collaborators with the enemy. You can always be taken down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:30 AM
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I think you haven't studied history. Powerful Men will ALWAY quell and put down a male threat. Face it, it was powerful men that have women job opportunities to water down male wages. Powerful men will always center themselves not you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 04:01 AM
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Desirable men are successful and provide not merely for existing, then he's obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:11 PM
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That's not what a desirable man is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:45 PM
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Sir men who can't provide are bad men and MOST men can't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:10 PM
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And women can collude with your enemy and topple you men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:43 PM
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That's pretty sad old men feel like we should use them for money and discard them and reserve our desire for attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:29 PM
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You mad that younger women use gross old men for money and aren't ever liked or wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:16 PM
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No its men that should be held accountable for unlawful behavior THEY COMMIT. Its seems from you're diatribe that you dont understand accountability becuase YOU have never taken accountability for yourself. No one is responsible for criminal behavior other than the criminal himself. Seems like you need to man up!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:13 PM
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No they're not.. women social circles (engaging with other women) PLUS social media telling women ro raise thier standards in is contributing to male sexlessness. Women pour into work and friends if they dont have a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:08 PM
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Men have higher rates of unaliving women. The most dangerous times are when she leaves. This is backed by stats. I dumped an old man after he tried to get me to lower my standards of what I required financially and wanted me to return jewelry he gave me. I told him no, he threatened me, so I went to my employer about this situation (he worked their too) and he was removed from his job. Another old creep tried to get me to date him and I also went to my employer to report him- he was suspended fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:36 PM
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Rise of male sexlessness shows otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:56 PM
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Just because I leave my phone or leave may car unlocked DOES NOT make car jacking or theft legal. MEN and women get charged and sent to prison. Why is accountability so hard for you men to understand?? Again perhaps you should take and understand accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:55 PM
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So why should women be blamed for men engaging in poor behavior. Hypocrite much?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:28 PM
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No im explaining men should take accountability for illegal unlawful behavior (like physical abuse and other illegal activities) instead of blaming women for a MAN'S actions. Its called accountability. If you can't understand this concept perhaps take accountability yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:26 PM
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Take accountability for you behavior and stop blaming people for your unlawful behavior. Perhaps preach this to you fellow male gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:52 PM
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Lol, plenty of studies back up the loneliness epidemic. Facts dont care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:39 PM
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That's YOUR experience, mine if more aligned with the poster above me that said women tend to be happier single- there is no fronting about us. Not sure why this hit a nerve with you that women can live happy lives with out suffering with an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:36 PM
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Again the state has no problem using violence can killing people. That's why there is NO REPEAT of Jan. 6th. SWAT teams will be used and so will drones to take out men if need be. I see no reason why they wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:33 PM
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Sorry you mean isolation of men.. women tend to have better social networks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:26 PM
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Women dont care about gene pools like men do- uts not our last name being passed down
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:23 PM
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How about men take ACCOUNTABILITY for criminal and abusive behavior instead of blaming women. Men just project thier accountability issues on others. I've clocked it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:20 PM
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Facts dont care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:18 PM
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I had an older men who thought he did financially well but wouldn't fully provide. I dumped him subsequently, Im not wasting my time with an old guy who isnt exceeding my lifestyle and making it significantly better. I also expected good dates that he was slacking on so off I left with another age appropriate man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:14 PM
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Ikr, it's projection. Many of these men are bitter about the fact that women don't need them in their personal lives to survive so large swathes will likely go sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:08 PM
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That's the thing, there was one post here where a man was alluding to a possible revolution if large swathes of men don't get any. They REFUSE to improve themselves, and women surpassed them. The number of losers that think you should give them a chance is wild. Also, dating is dangerous to women when you don't reciprocate interest immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:06 PM
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Umm yes! men are non stop b1tching about thier sexlessness and lack of dating options
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:00 PM
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Have you been on ask men/ppd and the main dating sub? Men screaming that women are nothing but hypergamous gold diggers that only go for the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:58 PM
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My dating experience is that men flip out after you express you're not interested in them or turn them down for coffee dates. Seems like men are FAR more likely to act out negatively in dating arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:57 PM
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Women have already said they would rather be single than deal with a low value average male
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:51 PM
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No one cares!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:48 PM
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Yeah, the US killed a bunch of people. In Iraq alone they killed 1 Million people. The government has access to surveillance data to a far greater extent than anywhere else. Again, I don't support the war crimes committed by the US, but they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:37 PM
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Lool!! The US has drones that they can target against the American man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:15 AM
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Will never happen, I think we need to start encouraging women to call the cops
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:41 AM
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They are delusional. Not sure who's lied to them. And entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:50 AM
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No it's not, you pulled that number out your @ss. Escorts are expensive since its illegal. The average cost is $600 per national average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:49 AM
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US is for more capitalistic so its reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:59 PM
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Absolutely it will, with enough money he can get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:26 PM
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It's the national average, per independent reports.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:13 PM
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The average price is $600 ... for 20 year old escort the price is much higher. Most men can't afford those prices at least not for 4x/ month... that $2400 for a low end escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:07 PM
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That's why the gov't has drones, they have no problem using it on men to take them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:02 PM
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Most men can't afford them in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:35 PM
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I really think that how many men ARE functionally sexless. The definition is less then twice /month and inconsistent within a year: so not getting it every month. That's alot of men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:30 PM
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Lol... police KILLED one of those Jan 6ers.. state violence is pernicious I would not try them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:22 PM
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Why should women have realistic standards?? What compels them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:20 PM
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You forget, mist men can't afford "call girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:19 PM
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Most men are not making that kind of $$. I think you overestimate how much men are struggling with finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:11 PM
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I don't think $300 is the price, its more like $700. Plus lots of scammed on those sites that got busted. It's risky. Nevada prices are more like $5000 so I'm not sure where $300 comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:09 PM
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I think the prostitution thing is over blown.. Nevada has it legalized and it's expensive as hell. Also Republicans will NEVER legalize it, far too many Christians to oppose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:07 PM
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True! Most men are too out of shape to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:02 PM
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Men b1tch and scream all the time becuase most men dont have $$ for provisioning. That's why only a small percentage can afford to. Most men can't afford women, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:54 PM
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First of all, women dont lose power in harems which is a purely transactional relationship he knows, and the women know it is about the exchange of $$ for services. A better deal than women marrying solely for love. Also, most men wont have money for AI robot/women, men will be replaced by AI robots, rendering most men useless and no money. How would you buy anything??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:49 PM
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Men always had a harem, it was poor men that couldn't afford wives. Monogamy was institutionalized to force women to be with poor and low earning men- we're just heading back to those "old days"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:16 PM
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Men have always provided!! Only feminine men complain. If you want children as a man, you provide!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:14 PM
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Most men don't fully provide. Only 25-30% of men do statistically. 75% of women are in the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:10 PM
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All that would mean is a handful of men, who can earn in society will get women. The rest of the men will parish. There is no pressure for women to earn money- men don't look for that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:07 PM
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Only 25%- 30%That's because women do 100% of the birthing and nursing and large percentage of parenting when they are young. So of course they are NOT and should not be expected to work. That should be expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:39 PM
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Then how are women literally surviving on their own? Women clearly can make food and do laundry and survive. They just don't want to do it for men who can't provide. If you can't provide you shouldn't deal with women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:00 PM
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Because men commit most of all crimes and make up 98% of the prison pop... clearly jail and harsh punishments aren't reversing course for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:56 PM
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Ok I understand, is couples therapy/ retreat helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:58 AM
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Do you appreciate her for her services? If you want appreciation you have to give it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:17 AM
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And how many men came FULLY provide without being resentful?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:00 AM
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Men ARE NOT being taught to be good people, let alone good partners. If they were, they wouldn't be suffering a loneliness epidemic. They're not even good friends to each other. If you talk with women dating men is dangerous at times. And this is MOST women experiencing this, how is it that 70% of divorces are filed by women. Men can solve all their issues if they resolved their anger and hostility. And focus on building relationships with OTHER MEN first, then move on to female relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:57 AM
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Facts don't care about your emotions and male hysterics
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:49 AM
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Look up FBI statistics, facts don't care about your feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:47 AM
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Sir you sound unhinged perhaps you need to be committed
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 07:46 AM
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You're being emotional about this. Men make up 98% of the prison population. Commit over 85% of murders. The make up about 80% of self deletion... yes you're not being socialized right.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 02:09 AM
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Its clear men prefer this instead of improving
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 11:19 PM
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But men aren't lowering their standards so why should women. Its easier for everyone to keeps their standards and allow men and women to live celibate monk lives. Not sure why men can't do this
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 10:31 PM
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Man of those "mid women" are not ugly and quite attractive. The problem is most men are way below average comparatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:41 PM
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Or maybe have a conversation with men about possibly lowering their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:34 PM
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So be attractive to a lower tier women. So batting outside your league becuase some women will find you attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:26 PM
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I think the crux of the issue is MOST men won't or can't add value to a women's life. The comedian's saying went : men are loved on the condition they provide.. has an element of truth in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:20 PM
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That's true, 50-50 don't get the respect that a kind provider man gets. I've noticed most divorces are initiated by women in 50-50 situations- because they can leave earlier while still having a career and not starting over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:12 PM
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Women don't respect broke men ugly OR rich. Money becomes the only factor she respects if he is old or fat/ugly. There is alot of pressure NOW on men to be financially successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:06 PM
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Yup deal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 07:59 PM
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The problem with that, is robots will take lots of men's jobs, like they already have (ex. Manufacturing automation). When that happens earning capacity drops and men can't afford anything. Scott Galloway actually made an insightful point which is the US is producing a new kind of asexual man because of where things are headed. I dint think men realize how bad AI is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:36 PM
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Maybe my definition of Chad is above average income for his age range and location and has looks. Beta men are average men and that also means average income. Second, when the economy is down, average men's income goes down too. Currently women on average make $0.85 per $1 dollar to a man's. However you have to realize that 5 % of men hoard most of the wealth so the income disparity maybe smaller. Look, in reaching equality i will admit this puts lots of pressure on men to be better in other way…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:01 PM
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The issue is the economy. Men's value is heavily regulated by how well the economy is. If its down songs men's value.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:18 PM
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Im afraid with the way the economy is going those robots will be very expensive. Hell, they'll make robots for construction/plumbing electrical and other uses before they make one for human interaction. All that will do is put men out of business completely and he wont have any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:13 PM
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Is it painful because most men can't attain it. Or that men have been made an after thought in women's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:09 PM
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Then women would just stay single than settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:04 PM
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Happier with a lower tier man? That breeds resentment. Listen, men lost leverage in the dating market because of the economy. They dont make enough money for women to settle anymore. Money was alot of men's leverage- thats gone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:59 PM
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Her looksmatch makes less money. Why do you think it's all about looks... is money and attitude. And 80% of men are average earning . Men want reverence and special treatment for being average like most women are- that's not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:47 PM
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I think thats why women are choosing to be single. Because of the flaws that beta what he has to offer (financial) doesn't make up for it. Most betas dont have money
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:42 PM
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The fact is most younger women aren't settling for average earning men- which most men are. Couple that with those women don't like you without $$. I know this because I used to date older men who had money, and guess what his money he spent was never enough and eventually I started to see a man closer to my age that I was attracted too. Was the old man mad? Yes, but that's just how it works. Age gap relationships have HIGH divorce rates for a reason, women cheat on men who are much older with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:33 PM
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That's it, and when women don't settle men start crashing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:24 PM
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Unfortunately, this short men, low earning men and low value men are no different in attitudes than Chad. Infact many come off incredibly hostile. So a women rejects the short/poor/unattractive/fat guy because of his behavior which is no different than Chad. Chad btw, isn't mean spirited or angry-Chad moves on. The beta, you gave a chance to turned out to be a frog and will "neg" you. That's why women would rather be single than with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:21 PM
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The problem is that issues with low earning men is due entirely to men not applying themselves enough. Or being a good partner in other ways. Men aren't being socialized to be good people. It maybe sociological, cultural and or biological. I don't see theses issues in other countries where men are faking behind at such a rapid pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 01:12 PM
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Not heartbroken but disgusted she gave a man beneath her a chance and got burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:52 PM
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Agreed!! Finally a post I can agree with!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 11:31 PM
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Its called masculinity, men are supposed to be taller, MORE muscular and make more money. That's what men are! Anything less is unmanly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:07 PM
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Ikr! There was a post on ppd todayon whether "women were still sexually attracted to men" and it was a RESOUNDING NO!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:56 PM
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That's like saying should men be breadwinners and fathers.. that's immaterial to the discussion at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:49 PM
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If men expect women to be wives and mothers, then those men should be providing. If not, then he needs to be shouldering paid work and housework just like the wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:43 PM
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But 70% of mother's work. The man should be expected to shoulder more household stuff. Clearly whatever men are doing isn't enough especially financially if women are EXPECTED.to.work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:33 PM
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Yes, I think that's still an expectation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:31 PM
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You're misleading with 150%.. the man makes 50% more at LOWER income levels. the higher the income bracket, the lower that margin gets. Currently, women make $0.83 per $1 men make. That's just a 17% difference
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 05:27 PM
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I think this is the crux of it.. Men had to perform alot to attain a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:49 PM
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It got a lot of traction online - it literally went viral. I think it changed discourse around not needing a man recently that I've never seen before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:45 PM
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I think the answer to that is women moved on from relationships that don't benefit them in financial or other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:39 PM
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I think that would be MOST men arent attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:33 PM
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So that means MOST men aren't in the bracket of men that get "burning desire"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:32 PM
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Both
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:27 PM
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Lollll, haha I was about to reference that article
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:26 PM
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If that was the case then why did Goldman Sachs predict 40 percent of women 18-45 would be single? That's never happened before in this country.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:18 PM
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These men are obtuse on purpose. These males also IGNORE the fact that men had to co-sign because women largely were not allowed to have consistent work and MONEY of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:07 PM
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So many males stating he's a nobody- he's well known! The fact of the matter is men resent women because they have a stronger drive and physical NEEDS for/from woman, that IS NOT RECIPROCATED from women due to women's lower drives. Men have to PROVE thier worth to women or live a sexless monk life- which is the ultimate humiliation for a man. That is why men resent women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:34 PM
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The male prison population is "not" falling. Its been relatively stable due to the state being leaner on male criminals due to criminal justice reforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:21 PM
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But "nothing" is better than an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 07:12 PM
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Lol still living your revenge fantasy huh.. women arent dealing with "average loser men" they rather be single. That's why the birth rate is plummeting. Btw, gov'ts always target male populations and "thin" them out whether is through war or jail because YOUR are expendable. YOUR bitter about the fact that governments NEED women to generate a population thats why we dont go to war as canon fodder like most of the obsolete males in the US. Men's life span is much shorter than women's because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:57 AM
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Again you're contradicting yourself. You can't claim women are becoming single moms but yet the birth rate is dropping. How can these men losers "as you claim women are sexing" if woman's standards are for getting "rich" men. Rich men deserve women, they are by definition not losers. Your revenge fantasy sounds like a cope because men are largely redundant therefore woman can demand anything they want or ignore 80% of men who are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 08:20 PM
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I could have told you Indian men are losers (im Indian myself)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:16 PM
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Aww poor b1tchy sexless man. Please test your low testosterone levels i think your estrogen is overpowering
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:13 PM
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Lol you just contradicted yourself... if women aren't having children due to economic reasons then average men are excluded from mating- you men have no money to provide hence the economic reason. That's why women are demanding rich men and they're not shamed about it..SHAMING IS NOT WORKING. Women can demand whatever they want from men since men are largely obsolete in relationships- they're not needed for her survival
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:00 PM
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Sir your the poster child of delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 06:54 PM
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Lol, when all else fails, there's always delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 07:05 AM
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Most men LIE about their perceived value. But a BIGGER factor is women are shamed for wanting a rich man who can provide. Now that shame is largely gone.. the birth rate is plummeting. Women aren't having babies with average men any more and that's a GOOD thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:14 AM
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🎯 bullseye
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:10 PM
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This "complaining" woman is mostly in men's heads because it's a COPE. Most men, 80%, are invisible and functionally sexless. There is a reason why women are claiming that having a boyfriend is embarrassing- because MOST men are low value from a financial and ambition standpoint. Men are judged by their finances and ability to provide- how many men can do that? Stats say only 17% men can fully provide. Women see this stat and deem men not necessary for women. What is thier value?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:32 PM
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Sir then just do the friendship thing with other men if women's demands are.too.much
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:16 PM
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I think most men have an entitlement that they deserve the best because they are "men". Men have to prove their value to the world and to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:51 PM
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Most "overweight" and unattractive men tend to be manipulative- is the only way they get women. I hope there will be a day when women can be taught Standards expectations and boundaries. We are so often not taught this for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:33 PM
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You're being emotional and not making sense. Childless Women earn their own money and dont need a man.. what is being in a relationship with a man needed for?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:27 PM
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Im not taking stock of anything.. if he's not ambitious then I'd rather be single than with a low value unambitious man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 PM
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That's Exactly what women are doing, and men are b1tching and pms-ing about us making our own money and NOT needing men. Again if I'm having a man's child, he needs to be providing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:20 PM
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She 100% births and nurses children- she's holding up her end of the bargain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:06 AM
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I see no problem with being a gold digger.. men see no issue with wanting a women who is attractive. So why should women care if we want rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:35 AM
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Good! I'll keep putting "ambitious men only" in my profile if it means repelling underachieving, broke, loser men. Ladies, don't let these men shame you into wanting successful men. These bums have no problem DEMANDING attractive women so you should want driven men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:33 AM
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If men dont want to provide then he shouldn't be dealing with women. I really WISH women raised their standards and required men to provide- we wouldn't have such piss poor men out here. And frankly, the state NEEDS to enforce child support much more fiercely than its currently doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:24 AM
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Sounds like projection of a sexless bitter man. Perhaps stop b1tching and whining about women's standards and man up and IMPROVE yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:24 PM
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Women aren't driven to sex like men are and thats not what attract women to men- providership does. Companionship can be offered by women and not exclusive to men only.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 07:20 PM
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Sir if I want a roommate, I can get a women to split bills with, what do I need a man for
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:44 AM
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Yes they are with masculine men who PROVIDE- unlike most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:32 PM
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Jeez no wonder men a are sexless. Why would women want men like these
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:24 PM
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But most women aren't giving men sex without significant investment unless he REALLY lowers the bar. Women want a man better than herself if not then she'd rather be single than be with a man beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:12 PM
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This guy is likely also isnt telling the WHOLE truth. Men of his caliber arent pulling women like that, certainly NOT for intimacy. If its bad for young men its WORSE for older men- literally NO ONE attractive desires them unless they are providing something
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:08 PM
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Sorry won't happen women would rather be single than be with substandard men who can't provide
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:47 PM
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Moat of these losers b1tch and scream when they are asked to provide and then coerce women into 50-50 relationships. Women won't respect men like this, then men wonder why women dont need men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:12 PM
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But most women are hypergamous and he NEEDS to be doing BETTER NOT EQUAL to a women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:21 PM
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Lol wake up to what? What are men PROVIDING that women need?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:17 PM
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Lol nothing makes a women gross out than an male claiming buying dinner should make a woman "grateful" it exposes a man's low status and lack of money- no woman respects that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 09:16 PM
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Honestly, most men shouldn't be having sex. It's a reward for being a provider
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:50 AM
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Most men don't respect feminine.. it means that many of these men have to be masculine- which they fail at. Most men fail at masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:49 AM
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You hit the nail on the head.. thats exactly how women feel. I wish more men were perceptive like you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:20 AM
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Women dont enjoy men's company though, women got with men due to financial necessity. Not sure anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:52 PM
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I think all this discussion is leading to men being completely unnecessary
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 08:51 PM
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So why the b1tching and pms-ing like feminine males? Either pay or remain sexless eunichs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 07:37 PM
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Im sorry then travel to Vegas where is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:59 PM
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Sir if you don't want to pay for dates then stop dating. Im glad women are putting their foot down.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:57 PM
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Sir, then why not pay for an escort?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:51 PM
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It's clearly not zero. Most men are batting above their league and get mad at women for not lowering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:39 PM
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How is that a double standard.. thats the very definition of a pick me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:38 PM
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You need to lower your standards, lots of "rich" men aren't that wealthy compared to their age or looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:53 PM
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No the ones that go on podcasts that shane women who want 6 fig men, are pick mes
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:49 PM
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Those women are pick mes that women ROUNDLY shame and deride.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:42 AM
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BS, men never humble other men infact they enable stupid advice (see podcast bros).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 11:49 PM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Alot of this is due to women having lower sex drives than men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:47 PM
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Nope!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:43 PM
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I feel the same about having any relations with men particularly sexual. As I high earner I realize I'm not interested in a majority of men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:43 PM
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Im not sure if women would be interested. In sex with men either!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 08:41 PM
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Well, the state and other men need to deal with these incels not women!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 07:11 PM
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Well then you deal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:56 PM
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They are if you're looking a motivations. Women leave because of threats to bodily autonomy NOT because they cant find a boyfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:51 PM
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I think they're leaving due to threats to their freedom NOT because of relationship needs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:17 PM
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Yup- we're transitioning to paleo/natural times where only a small segment of men married and most remained single.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:16 PM
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The issue is a burgeoning cohort of chronicly sexless men. They tend to be considered threats to national security- this is coming from the department of Homeland security
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:06 PM
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Men and women both pay taxes. If men dont want to pay taxes then they should leave the country to another country where they can pay taxes to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:02 PM
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Thus making men and women's wages nearly similar
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:00 PM
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You'll be surprised how many women love writing TP reports for $$. That's the thing $$ will trump love and men everytime.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:12 AM
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I think it's to late for men, and i think it'll spread. Major corporations LOVE to decrease men's wages
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 04:10 AM
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Must be desperate pick-mes.. reddit is full of them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:57 AM
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I don't think you realize how much leverage men have lost in dating and relationships. When men stopped being able to fully provide is when women decided there wasn't a need for man. Providing is intrinsic to men just like birthing and nursing is intrinsic to women. When men abdicated that intrinsic role... that was a wrap for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:54 AM
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Then the women will rake you over the coals for child support and alimony.. or throw you in jail for non payment. Seen it happen many times
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:26 AM
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Ding ding ding. They are mommy's special boy who should get any women he wants for free. They hate no one desires them .. for them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:08 AM
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Men like the one you're arguing with is exhibit A of resentful men who get angry at women who make money off of sex . These men believe they should get sex for free.. sorry that's not how the world works. Only a handful of men get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:07 AM
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Im sorry but old men are not more attractive than younger men so he has to pay a penalty
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:00 AM
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Attractive is based on money if he's old.. im advocating for women to ask for money upfront
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:59 AM
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Because you come online to lie to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:57 AM
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Yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:45 PM
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Yuck
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:45 PM
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Old men are NOT attractive they need money to be so, she could go be with men with her own age instead. There's no purpose to older men besides money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:39 PM
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Lol keep lying to yourself. Young women absolutely care about old man's finances- i and most girls i know, do. One girl was a sugar baby. We may not ask for more from the old guy but Im advocating women start charging. It seems like the tide is changing and women are asking for compensation from these old men more than a few years back.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:36 PM
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Im saying $500 dollars should be charged for any non sexual interaction with any old man upfront. Women are being way to easy and ruining alot of sugar babies chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:32 PM
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Women don't date old men for "personality" it's finances. Im saying to women to actually ask the money up front because old men offer nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:28 PM
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Your just mad we use you for money ;) BTW aren't most of you men sexless losers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:38 PM
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I hope your friend isn't doing this old man for free.. that's got to be gross. Women need to start charging these old men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:09 AM
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You wish old man, happily childless and using you old men. You think I'll give you gross old men a child for free.. lol. I just hope most women use you old men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:07 AM
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Or use him and ghost him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:13 AM
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Too many women entertain these gross old men for free. That's why I think sugar babies or pros are smart they're charging these losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:12 AM
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Truth hurts huh? Old men aren't liked and need to pay. Preferably upfront. I just wished more woman demanded the money or ghost them like I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:11 AM
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All Im saying is old men should be paying since they AREN'T compatible, men my age are so they would have it easier
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:55 AM
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And you seem hurt by the fact old men just aren't like for who they are. You think old men should just be able to get with younger women and accept them as they are no- they have to pay a tax. All men aren't equal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:50 AM
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HEY MODS this man started it and now he's b1tching and pms-ing because I gave it back!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:42 AM
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Nope if I date- its men my age, if I use a man- its older men. Its only fair. All men are not equal
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:40 AM
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Because old men are gross and offer nothing..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:38 AM
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Nope Im a younger woman. And old men dont offer nothing, if it isnt cash than he is old and gross.. just advocating for other woman to follow suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:37 AM
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Uh, most men lie too, again Im advocating that women charge old men. Like I do :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:35 AM
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He's angry that he's old and women he wants dont want him back- at least not free
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:33 AM
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By the way I've used old men like you tons. And when he gets b1tchy- to HR I go to have him removed and suspended. Ask me how many times I've done it :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:31 AM
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Aww poor b1tchy delusional broke dude lying that ANY woman wants you. I've used tons of you miserable old men.. and will continue to. Aren't your sexless rates sky high? Aren't you old men unaliving yourselves 4× the rate of women. How about your overdose rates? Old men fare worse than any group out there!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:30 AM
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No one's glazing you old men for free goofy, if you have to lie to yourself so be it. But dont be delusional. Most of yall (80% ) are ignored by society
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:24 AM
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Yup, I see a a bitter liar when I see one. Im glad we ladies use you old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:22 AM
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Nope, I think you're lying because most women wouldn't look you old men your way without $$. And it suck you're not liked for who you are. I've used tons of old men like you. Im just advocating for more young women to do the same :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:18 AM
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Yes older men generally go for youth, so I believe older men should pay otherwise men would be dating women much older than them but they dont.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:15 AM
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No I'm saying older men. Ugly, age appropriate men should get some slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:10 AM
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Those men have money, that's the only reason for a younger women to be with an old man. I'm just saying to make sure he's paying
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:08 AM
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Its an equal exchange. Calling it prostitution just wreaks of it being shaming language
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:04 AM
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Men have higher drives than women, that's why. And your last fact is just patently false. And yes most men DO require women do 50 50 because they cant afford a stay at home- which is why most women don't find men attractive anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 05:27 AM
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Sorry if I made to work outside the home then he gets no home cooked meals from me. If he wants that than I'm going to be a SAHWife
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:34 AM
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"Also, why is sex considered. something that women do for men, and not something that men do for women?" Because most men pay for it and women know this. Ex.: only fans and prostitution men are 90% the clientele. And most men ARE NOT provisioning anything.. most require 50 50 from women. That makes most husbands and boyfriends redundant/ obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 04:31 AM
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Umm if what you say is true .. then yes. Why would I do anything free for a man?? Broke men using shaming language will always be funny. You men don't get most women for free- no man does. Ladies please charge these men for your time and if they b1tch and pms and call you a prostitute it's because they are feminine and unmanly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:32 AM
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Most men can't fully provide so they get nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:27 AM
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Because women can't escape from biology, women birth and nurse and they can't outsource that to men, so women are left doing those intensive parts. Also most masculine men take pride in being providers WITHOUT holding it over a woman's head. That's why I can't respect men who whine about being a expected to provide and protect- it's what MEN are supposed to do. Btw, most single women PROVIDE for themselves that's why most forgo relationships because providing for yourself is easier than being in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:24 PM
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Lol the emotional men in this sub thread!! They want women for cheap and free- that's not going to happen. Calling women prostitutes is just shaming language because these men are substandard. Prostitutes are actually smart and make sure they are compensated for their time. Most women give it away for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:56 PM
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Judging the way the incel in this thread is getting emotional, perhaps I shouldn't also bring up the fact that men call men I date simps because they all are educated and have money. Lots of these men are jealous of women and our ability to get sucessful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:52 PM
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Look unless men can forego sex and remain permanently sexless and not have you're lineage carried on through children, then you really don't need women. Women traditionally put up with sex and bearing children in exchange for provisioning from men- well women outearn men now so men aren't necessarily needed anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 08:06 PM
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Sir the no.1 reason why men are more disposable now is BECAUSE men and women are now on equal footing. You males wanted 50 50, well now you've relegated yourselves to being roommates that a wife or gf has to have sex with. Why do you think women are going for the top 20% of attractive men? Well most men can't provide- might as well go for looks or stay single. THIS IS MEN'S DOING
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:48 PM
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Or men can stay like single monks.. why can't men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:34 PM
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Men don't want to fight other men for their liberation because men are lazy and want women to fight their battles for them. I also believe that it's too late, women have realized that most men offer no material improvements to their lives so living on their own is just as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:29 PM
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Women and men play a role when dating. Also I know many SAHM that don't act like that they have EQUAL say in the relationship. Being a SAHM doesn't give the man right to boss over her-she does equal work at home too. Ladies don't let these men manipulate you into thinking SAHM moms are un worthy- they are invaluable
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:22 PM
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I think men shame women for their preferences which is why men often get confusing messages. I wish women would take pride in being hypergamous and drop the pretenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 04:53 AM
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By charging men and having them pay
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:58 PM
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We don't need it as much
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:57 PM
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Don't worry its their revenge fantasy for artificial wombs- which will never happen. These feminine males know that they have no value left for women, mostly because they cant provide anymore and asking for 50 50 makes them lack masculinity. If you understand this basic concept you'll realize why 80% of men are invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:49 PM
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Men never take accountability for anything. It's always someone else's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:43 PM
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Inequality of what? I never heard that as a barrier. Look men are very much scrutinized over thier ability to provide that just how we're built
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:29 PM
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The point is getting sex outside is marriage is just hard for MOST men. Especially if 80% of single men are deemed invisible. Women's standards have risen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:27 PM
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I agree, it's hard to respect men who don't take pride in masculinity providing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:38 PM
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Is it me or is masculinity just evaporating from men. It's like the testosterone in men is tanking. God, the responses from men in this subreddit keep getting more pathetic. What happened to manly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:27 PM
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Women really don't care about men all that much, if you haven't noticed. Why would she care about Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:18 PM
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She'd rather hang out with friends and NOT get pumped and dumped by Chad if Chad's isn't improving her life. Love and companionship don't materially improves a woman’s life, why is that hard for men to understand. And what the h3ll is lovey dovey stuff? I thought men hated courtship and dating- it costs to much money for these average men.. so how is this man different than a roommate?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:24 PM
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I agree you'll have a contingent of men that MIGHT rebel. However if these men are not looking for a job, whose taking care of them.. what you're telling me is that men would end up homeless and the homeless rarely pick up arms because they have no money for such endeavor. Most men are passively rotting away with video games, porn and online gambling. Interestingly, ALL 3 have exploded in popularity and profit (you can add weed in there too).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:35 PM
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These men are closeted!! Why won't they marry another man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:15 PM
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Here's the thing most women aren't settling for these types of relationships since it feels the power has shifted from men to women in dating. Women want the the Chad that courts and provides if they don't get that they remain staying single .. women don't have the same drive/ desire for men like men do for women. It's primarily the reason why the dating market is so lopsided- women's drive for men is low because men have fallen behind on most metrics of success in life
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:02 PM
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I guess you answered your own complaints. Men don't have to be in such engagements with women. Why don't men just remain sexless? Monks can do this , eunichs naturally do this.. what can't men? Get testosterone blockers so you slow your drive down.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:41 PM
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Maybe thats how women love. Just like how men feel love through sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:13 PM
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Ofcourse it's money! Why would a women settle with a man she has to split bills with. Women don't find roommate situationships with men appealing. She can split bills with another woman and not have sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:52 PM
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I agree, I think the money incentives to men isnt going to be enough since women make money and largely surviving on their own. This issue is QUALITY of men that most policies are ignoring. Most policies deincentivize women entering relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:45 PM
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Sir most women dump these old men when they realize the money isnt there (I know I did). Its NEVER about love, because why would it when men of her age are available to her. Most young women also don't know what to ask of these old dudes so they are more gullible. Thankfully more young women are getting hip to this arrangement and asking for $$ up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:29 PM
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Well then you'll be held to masculine standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:25 PM
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Most men can't get sex without commitment or sex in general that's the issue. Unless men want to be sexless eunichs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:22 PM
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Those loser men absolutely have a hard time. Again women's standards have absolutely gone up and it's affecting men otherwise men like prof. Galloway wouldn't be hawking his new book all over the place. I really think it's only going to get worse for men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:13 AM
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It absolutely does
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:09 AM
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Lol keep lying to yourself. Sexless rates for men are sky rocketing and 80% of men are ignored. It's why OF is so successful, women make money off of it so why would women give it away for free to some average loser man ?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:08 AM
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But men can't get sex easily, they need it more than women.. case in point prostitution. Men are PRIMARY PAYERS . same thing with OF. Women and society know this and leverage it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 12:06 AM
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Sex is most definitely NOT cheap. Women aren't giving it away for free when they see women making money from it.. why do men lie to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:25 PM
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Here's the thing, men HAVEN'T destroyed the patriarchy: it's still run by men largely.. so why should women NOT treat men to masculine standards placed on them by patriarchy??? You can't have it both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:18 PM
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Im glad someone said this. Alot of men are delusional about their value to women. Sometimes I wonder who fed them these lies. I had an old guy (21 years older than me) completely crash out because I told him he didnt met my standards. He clearly offered nothing while being significantly older. Im not sure why cant take an honest stock of themselves. Who's lying to these guys??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:49 PM
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Sir your probably NOT fit.. do you have a six pack? If not, you're not fit. Also do you have money? If not you're not going to get women you want. I really think men over estimate themselves and they really are the delusional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:23 PM
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How about making more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:21 PM
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Men need sex more than women.. that drive is stronger in men. The entire marketing and capital system exploits this in men. Im not going to argue with you on science.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:43 PM
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The reality is men made themselves obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:29 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if needing/ wanting men will become obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:37 AM
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Sexless rates are sky rocketing for most single men. 80% of men are ignored and undesirable.. men like to lie to themselves to cope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:12 AM
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Most men don't get any that's why.. let the make sexless rates sky rocket!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:10 AM
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I also think that women pretty much "moved on" from men who don't meet standards. Alot of it has to do with women earning their own money and not having to put up with bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:08 AM
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These men live in an alternative reality. Most of these "losers" can't get women to be f boys with. Then he says that a 60 y.o. man can be one?!?! Um no, he's PAYING for her presence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:05 AM
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I think i did, men are dangerous and violent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:57 AM
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Abuse during pregnancy is very common. MOST women are murdered by an intimate partner- that's a fact that's well reported. Dealing with men is dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:51 PM
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The number 1 cause of death for pregnant women is homicide. I don't believe married women or single mothers, live long.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:51 PM
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No one is asking men to help.. women want you to abide by the law. Men disproportionately commit violent crimes against women that's unlawful. Asking men to stop being criminals is not asking for help it's bring civilized
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:17 PM
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Your tying your issues ( lack of sex) to denying women's rights of autonomy (constitutionally protected). All this does id escalate the situation to a place where MEN lose their country and their lives. Foreign invaders are notorious for taking out MEN. See all of Latin America
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:13 PM
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It already is a reality, wake up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:09 PM
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Most men are getting replaced by automation and globalization, and h1b's. And no, Trump isn't going to do anything about leveraging tarrifs, he's already backed down on most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:28 PM
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Sir that strategy is failing, as most men aren't successful. In the past most men never procreated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:17 PM
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Because you live in a CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY. Where rights are protected for everyone. SEX IS NOT A RIGHT. And if men want to threaten women with violence well don't be surprised if a foreign enemy uses this "split" with women and uses it against you men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:15 PM
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But most men aren't sexually desirable to MOST women. That's why sexless rates are sky rocketing for men. Also focusing on a few attractive women to deal with means most men will definitely remain sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:56 PM
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Sir those women you want are even more selective and don't want most men. You're telling men to waste their time and having them remain sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:39 PM
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Most men are NOT betas (i.e.good career and providers). Most can't provide. I'll keep saying this till im blue: men are having trouble because of ECONOMICS. The economy highly regulates the value of men. When the economy is down the value of men is down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:30 PM
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Not unless the man has OUTSIZED money and power like Kash! $200k is not enough. Men who get hot Women have millions. I think you like lying to yourself but unless you have millions and billions and live in a mansion, no hot Women are going for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:35 AM
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most average men are married to other average women. Hot Women aren't settling for a man that's ugly with slightly higher money. I used men who were ugly and made slightly more money than me.. why? Because it wasn't enough to make up for his age and looks. That's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:52 PM
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No they are not, most average men are married to other average women. Hot Women aren't settling for a man that ugly with slightly higher money. I used men who were ugly and made slightly more money than me.. why? Because it wasn't enough to make up for his age and looks. That's how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:51 PM
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What you're stating is a man that's a roommate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:46 PM
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Men are in denial about this fact
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:04 PM
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Umm most women would rather be single than be with average men.. thats the result of hypergamy. You live in a society where women survive without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:02 PM
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But most men aren't on any level. If they can't provide or protect then what kind of man is he?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:00 PM
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Yes, that's just science
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:33 PM
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Most men are below average and aren't manly thats why sexless rates for men are sky rocketing and b1tchy lonely men are exploding everywhere where. 80% of deaths of despair are men.. looks pretty dismal for most single men. Most of drug overdoses are men too!! Enjoy being a lonely man :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 07:32 PM
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Most age gaps fail, and you will most likely grow to resent that old man. I know I did and got out before he could trap me. LEAVE OLD MEN ALONE- THEY ARE OF NO VALUE .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:40 PM
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Remain celibate, most men aren't supposed to procreate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:37 PM
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That's why most women would rather stay single than settle for average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:14 AM
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But men really are dillusional. Women want commitment from an old guy ONLY on the condition he has top 5% money. Average earning or middle class earning old men can't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:53 PM
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Men acting effeminate. Acting and wanting to be women. Men not understanding the basics of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:59 PM
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How many 35 year old are above average? Only 10% are considered upper class. Women aren't going for the 35 year old middle class man or any age gap relationship that's middle class... thats gross to them. I know, because I am one of these ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:51 PM
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I think this dude is capping. Most men going for women outside their age range need to be pulling in huge amounts of cash. Quite as its kept these new crop of women have higher standards for finances than previous generations. These women aren't interested in the average older man. I know because I'm one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:45 PM
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No that's not attraction that man needs to make significantly more money than the younger women for her to want to be with him. It's $$. that's why you'll never see an old man with middle class income with a significantly younger women- that's gross to her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:27 PM
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Not to mention the wider the age gap the more the man has to make financially compared to the younger partner. Attraction is very much negotiated the the further the disparity between the couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:24 PM
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Sorry, but if women birth and nurse children she's going to want to stay home and raise them. Im sorry, but that's my right if a man wants to stay at home then he needs to birth the children and nurse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:38 AM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 01:39 AM
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No one pays for another man.. it just doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:45 PM
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I would never respect a man that didn't value a sahm. To me the essence of masculinity is to provide and protect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:29 PM
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I think most men would pick up due to the costs being high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:26 PM
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No most men resent paying for anything. Hell most men resent OF girls because they make $$ off of men and its a HIGHLY transactional relationship. All this world do is make men resentful because women don't naturally wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:20 PM
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The problem is most men don't want to pay. Escorts are illegal and therefore expensive. Men don't even want to pay for dinner dates that cost $30 for a women what makes you think men would pay $500- $1000s for intercourse. All this would do is put a price on intimacy that women will then CHARGE ALL MEN. Relationships with men will largely be seen as transactional. Case in point Japan. Not sure if men are a happy bunch there, their suicide rates are quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:31 PM
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Most women are attracted to men who have pride in their masculinity. I.e. to provide and protect. There's no getting around this and men shaming women for wanting this just sounds unmanly as in not able to measure up to basics of masculinity. The sooner men understand this the better. You're not going to beat women over the head to get her to lower her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:23 PM
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men endlessly b1tch and PMS because most of you are ignored by women because you're not Chad. Males have a RECORD number of sexless men in history and its only increasing. Having large swaths of sexless eunich males is dangerous in society. A RECORD number of men are homeless, males make up 80% of drug overdoses. By all metrics MALES ARE FAILING and its MEN like Scott Galloway saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:10 PM
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I hate to break it.too you but MALE SEXLESS rates are sky rocketing. And MOST MEN are invisible to women. Sounds pretty bleak for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 PM
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But most partnerships are roommate situations that these men offer that you have to s3x. I get dry just thinking about these 50 50 arrangements
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:00 PM
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Most men can't afford traditional wives hence the loneliness epidemic
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:33 PM
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I think the issue is VAST majority of men don't want to fulfill their masculine role and provide in a respectful manner. I think that's the crux of why dating and intersexual relationships are so broken. Men need to understand and KNOW what they are to women. Because otherwise I think men will keep spinning their wheels. I think you're post also highlighted another issue: that women must be ADAMENT what they want from men and stick with it and be OK with being single rather than settling and bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:15 PM
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Men have agency, pick better so you won't lose half and pay child support/alimony
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:08 PM
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This guy will also blame the mother for putting the father on child support and or having to pay alimony. Maybe the father/ husband should have picked better. But theses men will b1tch and PMS- very hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:02 PM
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But older men are generally less attractive than younger men.. thats a fact. Younger versions of humans GERNERALLY are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:56 PM
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Money based relationships with an OLDER man are particularly susceptible. Because the younger party will compare the old man to richer younger men with equal and more money. That breeds resentment for the old man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:54 PM
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I would hate to break the hard news but older men 50s NEED to have money to be considered viable or attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:09 PM
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Lol, old men don't look as good as 20 or 30 year olds. The only thing old men have to use is money, and that's if he has enough. I know that's hard for old men to believe but thats how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:43 PM
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I know this is a lie! Most young women aren't going to older men for free, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:27 PM
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Umm 85% of men in their 40s and 50s are middle class and below- that's NOT a "high" status
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:56 PM
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Umm 50s and 60s are NOT a man's prime. You have to take into account that $$$ pretty a deciding factor into a man's desirability at his "later" years because its NOT looks anymore- if he had any to begin with. And most men aren't making the top 5% income for him the be desirable at that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:55 PM
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Yeah im not sure about that. Most young women are looking for men in their mid 30s with alot of money with a particular high class lifestyle. Almost ALL men offer middle class lifestyle which most women won't settle for especially if she's particularly young- they'll just go for men in their age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:41 PM
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I think it men whining about it makes them unmanly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:12 PM
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Tbh, I WISH women were more hypergamous AND picked men for character. So many issues women have with relationships would be solved if they realized they are better off single rather than settling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:05 PM
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Ugly unattractive men have no self awareness to understand that they are indeed substandard so they think they are above average because an attractive woman gave them a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:39 PM
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Its a bad deal for women, because she's in it for money and eventually the old man is never good enough. The money is never enough and she eventually resents him. There's a reason these relationships have a high FAILURE RATE. Marrying because you're ATTRACTED to him is important not because of money because that will NEVER be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:52 AM
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Because men are men. Ugly substandard men are no different than Chad. I rather get ran through by Chad than let a low value man touch me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:31 AM
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Again you're not a woman, and it seems like YOU'RE speaking for women. MOST WOMEN are hypergamous which is why women works rather be single than with a low value man
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:25 AM
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You're not a woman so I don't think you understand how we operate. You can deflect all you want but it doesn't reflect reality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:21 AM
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I have these , as you call it "unhealthy expectations" because I can. I'd rather be single than to be with a nonprovider man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:51 AM
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You wrote a bunch of drivel that can easily be disputed: you can't force men or women to be friends with each other so why should women be forced to have sex with most most men who are undesirable. Infact I will venture to say this will NEVER HAPPEN because you threaten forcing black and whites to be friends with each other. No law will ever pass or ever be mentioned to force intimate interpersonal relationships with each other genderwise or racialwise
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:30 AM
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Most women don't enjoy sex with most men.. why don't you get that. Only A small fraction of men are considered sexually attractive- its why most of history only 40 % of men procreate. And most of those interactions are because these men had resources to make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:20 AM
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These men live in revenge fantasies. I blame their mothers and friends for gassing them up, because they're crashing out!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:04 AM
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How about you take personal responsibility not NOT HAVE SEX so you don't have an unwanted child. And abortions are already deemed unconstitutional so I guess that means we need to increase the CS payments and start putting men in prisons for non payment- Im all for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:01 AM
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I disagree. There's a reason the saying " whoever makes the gold makes the rules." Exists. Men make money to get alot women. Women make money to be independent from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:34 PM
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But even employer employee relationship are HIGHLY regulated by the government. You can take an employer to court there are a number of statutes that protect an employee. I.e hazardous work pay, discrimination, equal pay act. None exist for sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:24 PM
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Because for many women their desire for men comes from their ability to be feminine with a man. You can't be feminine with a man that you also revere that you see as a roommate splitting bills with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:19 PM
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Personally, NOT ENOUGH men are single. Tbh, I really wished women's standards were higher, and they demanded more from men or stayed single. It's why men do the bare minimum these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:22 PM
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Its not a price tag though, its the basics of masculinity. Just like birthing and nursing is INHERENTLY a feminine trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:02 PM
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Providing is the basics of what a man should be doing. There are other additional aspects that men need to be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:01 PM
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Sorry but if men are offering roommate situations with sex - I think most women are passing on that. Women canprovide for themselves what does she need a man for if he isnt providing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:38 PM
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To who? A man? This is the way of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:36 PM
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My girlfriends married for "love" and "connection" and both are worn out because these men can't provide. I hate to break it to you but you can't fool women with "love" anymore you need to being more
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:12 PM
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Yes I rather have low to no matches than high vol matches with men who don't meet my education and lifestyle requirements that I have to sift through.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:07 PM
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Average men don't elevate a woman's life anymore than what she can do for herself and a female roommate. Most men offer roommate experiences that she has to be intimate in.. thats a hard pass for most women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:44 PM
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Relative to their age and attraction, yes. This is most women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:33 PM
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Most men can't afford escorts.. its legal- just expensive for almost all men. Again men can remain sexless eunichs for their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:33 PM
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I don't think its apps that affect men its that social media has changed / heightened standards for what a man needs to be. I think women in the past put up with a lot of low value men but now women realized that their standards need to go up because settling for the average guy is plain misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:06 PM
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Yup, the older he is the more unattractive and more money he has to make.. or he can remain a sexless eunich
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:59 PM
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The problem is is that MOST MEN will never reach peak financial prime, because its relative. A man in his 50s making $150k is not peak financial if woman in that age group are also making that amount. That money is NOT enough to make up for your age. I should know because I ve dumped men for not making more money relative to their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:52 PM
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Umm you're not a woman so you have no idea what you're taking about. Women care more about money the older he is... he needs to make SIGNIFICANTLY more to be attractive than when he was younger. I know you hate hearing this but it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:47 PM
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Integrity, kindness and raw naked ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 12:49 AM
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Most men don't make 6 figures. 75% of women work.. so I fail to see how being in a relationship with a man is beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:02 PM
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I think women are telling you most women don't want a relationship with most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 04:01 PM
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Im not sure if agree with the second to last paragraph. Relationships DONT matter to women if they don't benefit them. The OP hasn't directly stated this but it seems to me large portions of women are saying that Relationships with men largely don't benefit women writ large- from a financial standpoint that is. Unless he fully provides, which most men can't do, I don't think there is purpose to a man- he's just a roommate. Im not sure that is an attractive proposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:24 PM
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In capitalistic and tribalistic society.. it's not about sex. Otherwise these systems would be dismantled. It's funny men create and uphold theses systems yet their victims to it. All I can say: karma
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:00 AM
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Record number of sexless substandard loser men!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 12:43 AM
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The top men will certainly get rid of you.. women are a buffer between them and you. They created feminism to usurp low value men's power. Sorry, but they'll take you out before they do woman. They need us to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:12 PM
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Haha poor sexless incel!! I've always had men pay for dinner and fix things for me, jealous?? Man you incels are down bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 11:08 PM
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Let the sexless rates continue to sky rocket for you males, lol!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 10:04 PM
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Sir all this is going to do is get women enmasse to collaborate with a foreign enemy to wipe out native men. Men don't fare well in your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:27 PM
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Nice deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:01 PM
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Women birth and nurse children. Plus physical intimacy. That is more than enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:33 AM
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Also I think a lot of women on reddit will gaslight men up and down this thread into having men believe that they just have to be themselves and just be good partners (whatever that means).When, in fact, that's not true. I think women like traditional men that provide and respect a woman that stays at home and NOT ABUSE THEM. If it werent true, why do women file for a majority of the divorces and complain that they're doing lopsided amount of work in the relationship. I swear women refuse to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:05 AM
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Look, I believe a lot of women like to be provided for. I think it just lets women be in their natural feminine state.I, in fact, require that when being with a man and I would probably not settle for anything less.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 04:01 AM
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Lol, look at the people gaslighting you on this thread. Reddit is not the real world nor an accurate reflection of how women think. Women by and large, still believe in gender roles, they still want to be courted properly. If anything, I believe we're going back in time to more traditional values, I think women realize that wanting a provider man is important for their well-being. Provided that that man respects a woman wanting a man like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:59 AM
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He's a charlatan. This guy lies about using fake psychology to attract women. Instead of telling men to improve themselves the old fashion ways: financially, physically and emotionally. I guess he'd be out of business if he just preached that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:11 AM
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Most men don't offer a good relationship that's what you men are missing. Why do you think women initiate MAJORITY of the divorces. I actually think the rates will only increase
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:47 PM
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It's too late that ship has sailed. I think expectations on men are biological, it's just that economics makes that hard now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:17 PM
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They absolutely are, I know its a cope for you men but women don't want to settle for substandard 50 50 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:07 PM
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This will get alot of heat, but it's true. My standards protected me from men who meant ill will. I thank God my mom enforced education and values so I could be independent and be more discerning with men. In hind sight, I wish I was more discerning and less desperate and realized societal expectations placed on women to need male attention is deleterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:03 PM
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You made the claim "modern women are unrealistic they want to work and earn but still be provided for. Men now have to make even more money than they do which isn't possible for a lot of men."... Im agreeing with you in that most men have no purpose to a women in a relationship if they can't provide. It's why most women are choosing to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:38 PM
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This should be posted as a thread in reddit. For a red pillar, this a very honest neutral take.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:23 PM
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Well that just means that men don't really have a purpose outside of providing that women see as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:00 PM
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I think you're projecting..women are already catching on and realizing if its not the best why settle. Women have no reason to settle, what's the impetus/need?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:44 PM
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Then why don't men? The problem is the those 1-5% of women don't like men back so those men remain incels. The issue in all of this is drive, men's drive is higher so they're willing to suppress it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:36 PM
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I remember reading this quote: Women earn money to gain independence from men; men get money to gain alot of women. The mind set is different. I think working has freed alot of women from men who would have probably had partners but now can't because women don't need them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:24 PM
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Why do you guys try to push this reductive reasoning. A woman working for a boss in a company isnt selling her body its money in exchange for work JUST LIKE MEN DO. Women earn money to gain independence from men men get money to gain alot of women. The mind set is different
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:20 PM
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Not sure if you pulled this out of your back side. But many men are suffering from the loneliness crisis. Men's standing in society has dropped drastically infact Men's earning potential has plummeted. We have record number of men dropping out of the workforce and not participating in society. Men's mental health has plummeted as well making 80% of the "deaths of despair". Scott galloway and Richard reeves talk ad nauseum about the terrible state of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:12 PM
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Yes, she has to carry the child for 9 months and possibly nurse that child. He needs to be held financially obligated if he can't abstain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:05 AM
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Or have men practice abstinence!! Personal accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:43 AM
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Unfortunately most men who complain, are at the mercy of a top percentile of men that DO support feminism and because it serves as a buffer between them and angry resentful men. And the top percent of men hold most of the resources as well as ammunition and military to take out most resentful men. men are replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:40 AM
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For the first point men, should stop having sex if they don't want to be fathers. Take some responsibility. The second point is one of merit vs. Subjectivity in hiring. Hiring practices are RARELY fair and arbitrary, thats why its easier to poke holes at men disproportionately in male leadership roles. Its not based on any standard measure like school and university tests that applies to everyone. The rest is really self inflicted, men can either level up or just quit dealing with women- its sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:34 AM
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You have more stamina than I do! I think my standards are too high, I never ran a cross a man that I truly liked, except for one and he turned out to be a biggot:(. I thinsome of us ladies may have out grew men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:26 AM
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Tell me your ways!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:31 AM
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Sir, I and alot of women live by this mantra, sorry if the truth hurts. BTW women CAN'T be incels..we just haven't lowered our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:16 AM
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Found the incel
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:15 AM
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Women will come to their senses that most men are obsolete. The LEAST they can do is provide, and they FAIL at that. I really think the future is bleak for men - lots of incels. My only wish is women raise their standards higher because it's not high enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:15 AM
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I see no problem with that. I think it's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:07 AM
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Sir these same men PMS when woman date multiple men. If you can spin plates so can she.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:17 PM
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Well if he has enough
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:41 PM
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Men have no leverage
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:29 PM
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Perhaps your not as good a provider as her father, and thats why you think she's "spoiled"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:07 PM
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Any man that asks that, is looking for financial help from a woman because he can't provide. I wish women were smart enough to understand this. If you can't respect women's ability to be a mother and a wife- RED FLAG. Those men resent masculinity and become hostile over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:13 PM
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I disagree, I think women collectively are saying "love" isnt enough anymore. And it isn't, it doesn't pay bills, it doesn't provide shelter nor raise kids. Gender norms exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:59 PM
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So then, what I would say is men will NEED to start providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:52 PM
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Nope, I've been in several and yes. I can walk away when my standards for men aren't met and I face no longer term consequences by doing so. If a man cannot PROVIDE and the very minimum- then there is no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:47 PM
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I will say, what you painted is EXACTLY why I will never be a working parent. I'm either working full time and single or a SAHM. If I need someone to split bills with I'll get a roommate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:42 PM
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Lol, it's no grift- its economic reality. About the only thing I agree with you on is that men's roles have been diminished.Yes, and it's mostly due to the economic reality that we now live in, which is dual income. But that in turn puts pressure on men to either provide more or find another ability or capability that women don't exclusively have that women now desire from a man. I would argue that there is very limited things that women need for men that they value. And that is a predicament.I …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:36 PM
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Because men are optional to women. They are not needed for survival. When men start being needed then things will change. Men can start taking pride in being Providers if they want to be selected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 03:55 PM
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No women should love unconditionally, I'm glad women aren't falling for it. It's dangerous to say the least. I wish women were more selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:09 PM
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You're just making excuses for why men can't get their money up or their muscle mass up. Women don't respect that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:05 PM
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Most men are not betabux -they can't provide! They are average and those men will largely have an uphill battle with any women. Betabux are not a huge percent of the male population. If Chad's are top 20% then the beta bux are the next 15-20%, and that's being generous since,as I've said before, most men can't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:55 PM
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Everyone is loved on conditions. Freinds are made based on mutual benefits. Only women are shamed into loving men unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 09:49 PM
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Yeah, men conveniently forget the provider aspect of why women find men attractive and select them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:48 PM
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I think it depends from woman to woman. I think a large section of a women really like the Provider/protector type of man. Non violent Masculinity is seen as a desirable quality in a man. I think women might not say this is what they want but when children come into the picture- I think women desire this. I truly believe the ship sailed on men who could Provide hence why I think alot of women don't see value in relationships any more especially having children with men, if I means women having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:40 PM
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Ill still judge and shame broke men and weed them out as most women rightfully do, and you will have to deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:45 PM
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I bet he'll bi+chand screem if I said women should leave a man when he can't earn more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 06:13 PM
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If traveling is seen as a red flag because its seen as expensive.. I may add that to my profile- I need to weed out dusty broke men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:53 PM
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Most men are below average, if you ask me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 05:49 PM
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I guess my standards have always been the minimum: can he provide and protect me. That's what I base what a man has always been since time immemorial. There's others like is he honorable, is he compasionate, does he have integrity? Not sure if that answers the question
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 09:25 PM
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Your missing the finance piece to this equation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:19 AM
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They can and do become dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 01:08 AM
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I think lots of women are pressured into working or fear potential abuse from men who see sahm moms as leeches. I always tell women steer clear of men like this they don't respect women or womanhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 12:18 AM
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I will say, I will not have kids for a man that DOES NOT respect motherhood and being a SAHM. I was deeply impacted by women who had to pump during their lunch break to feed their newborn that was in DAYCARE. I could never understand a man doing this to his wife. I could never respect a man like that. I wish more women demanded more from men, its happening but for too many women are "pick-me"..REDDIT WOMEN are the poster children of pick-me ism
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:22 PM
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No one is settling with substandard nonviable, women would rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:02 PM
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Women don't want sex with average men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:21 PM
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Any metric.. its an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:15 PM
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I think prostitution will likely take place. Women don't have "free sex". Your seeing it now with the rise of OF. Sex will be far more transactional than in past
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:36 AM
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Here's the thing hypergamy rules the market currently. Its why men can't stand it- it takes most of them out of the running. You can blame women's rise in employment and education thus putting more pressure on men to outperform women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:27 AM
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I don't think you understand woman.. In shape woman have higher standards for men. They don't settle for average men more than non inshape women. Women are hypergamous- they want better
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:23 AM
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No its not!! Most men don't want to grind.. its no excuse
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:19 AM
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And these young women will divorce him and get alimony and cs. That's hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:12 AM
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Sir women are hypergamous, they want men who will out earn them.. thats why men with income requirements fail, women want men with more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:57 PM
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The only people ditching like pms-ing women are males who don't meet standards. Most men are NOT supposed to breed!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:52 PM
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In shape women have even higher standards. So you're still out of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:29 PM
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Asking a man to make 6 figs and grind like a MAN should isnt a huge ask either.. yet men are pitching and screaming here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:51 PM
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And so what.. we all have them. Women would rather be single than settle- I applaud them!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:49 PM
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Its not bitching at men.. its more like disgust. Women would rather be single than with a substandard guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:44 PM
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I do that, im a women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 03:18 AM
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And you seem to not understand.the basics of what masculinity. You're more than welcome to date other men or birth and nurse children if you don't like being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 12:31 AM
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Nope it's what masculinity is, if you can't fulfill the basics then maybe thats not what you are. Most women understand this and expect this- I'm glad most woman are demanding this from men or leaving them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 10:26 PM
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Nope husbands have ALWAYS been required to fully provide. If you can't do that then you're not deserving of a woman or children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:58 PM
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At the core its "providing and protecting". Is been this way for a millenia
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:14 AM
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Purchasing is very cost prohibitive and not accessible to most men mostly because it is illegal almost everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 12:13 AM
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What men are not understanding is that top tier men offer MASCULINITY. If men understood what masculinity meant there wouldn't be a scarcity. Alot of what men are offering women is what another woman can provide or what a woman can provide for herself. I think alot of men believe that women want men for sex the way men want women for sex.. and thats simply not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 11:08 PM
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Yes and when are these men MOST dangerous... when women try and LEAVE
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:50 PM
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I think in terms of sex drive and needs. Men have much stronger drive for the opposite sex than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:48 PM
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Nope . Men will largely be incels before that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:33 PM
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This is the most HONEST take a redpill dude has taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:22 PM
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Agreed, unless he is a full provider, men offer nothing different then a female roommate. Men have turned into women with male genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:21 PM
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$300 is NOT the going price. Try $900 or $1000 in most areas where it is legal. Knew a guy who did the cheap route and was arrested because it was illegal. Plus sex robots aren't a thing and don't exist- maybe in men's delusions to cope- but they're not here. Porn and virtually women you have a point, but you're just masterbating that's still a sexless life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:58 PM
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Being an over emotional man isn't helping.. facts are male loneliness and sexlessness is a historical epidemic. You're mad we don't want you for sex nor desire a vast amounts of you men. You're value is provisioning which a majority of you can't do so you are obsolete.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:18 PM
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Wah wah wah, let the sexless incel rates of men sky rocket!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 07:19 PM
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The state is my bodyguard- I pay taxes for that. If I am to have children with a man I'm going to be provided for. THANK GOD women are waking up and not falling for 50 50 and realizing how obsolete men have become with 50 50 arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:09 PM
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Haha Women initiate a majority of divorces.. they don't want 50 50. Women by and large can go with out sex for long periods of time, their drive is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:26 PM
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You're turning to developing countries where you CAN FULLY PROVIDE. most men cannot in America
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:19 PM
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Not long term, woman compromise on that. Women's drive is much lower
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:01 PM
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You can cuddle a roommate and share a life with them especially if its another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 10:11 PM
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No alot of cohabitating RELATIONSHIPS a man is a provider AND NOT in a roommate situation with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:33 PM
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When you have Roommates you split bills and chores with.. what so hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:19 PM
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It absolutely does make you roommates.. that's the VERY definition, loooool!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:15 PM
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Well you men will continue living sexless, incel and lonely lives. Enjoy being a eunich! Glad WOMEN ARE REJECTING 50-50 and passing you men over.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:14 PM
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Lol MOST men CANT afford an escort. Infact these guys get downright b1tchy when they have to pay for intimacy. That's why sex workers have one of the highest rates of violence committed against them. Much of it is caused by angy resentful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:01 PM
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Lol MOST men CANT afford an escort. Infact these guys get downright b1tchy when they have to pay for intimacy. That's why sex workers have one of the highest rates of violence committed against them. Much of it is caused by angy resentful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 09:01 PM
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Sir that is EXACTLY my argument. Getting a female roommate is a much better deal. Glad you finally see what Im laying out there- hopefully majority of woman will catch on!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:56 PM
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"How can a woman contribute for the protection a man gvies her in dangerous situations?" You men like a police officer that i pay for through my taxes?? And protection from what? Most women are harmed by MEN that they know most and mostly by an INTIMATE PARTNER.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:53 PM
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Im sorry but with roommates you can also share cleaning responsibilities and cooking responsibilities. Additionally, if you room with your best female friend, you can also have them pick you up in the middle of the night when my car broke down, in fact. When I was sick and out of surgery, I had a female roommate that cooked for me and picked me up from the hospital and all the things that a boyfriend and a husband would naturally do. And quite frankly, female roommates tend to be a lot less dang…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:49 PM
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Please read what I wrote, she is EXPECTED to have sex even if her libido fizzles because its part of her obligation for being a WIFE. If and when she stops having sex THEN should leave and get a female roommate to split bills with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:44 PM
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Sir most men can't get f@ck buddies. Majority of men can't swing FWB or have that opportunity. Especially if 80% of women are going after 20% of men. Leaves most men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:32 PM
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No, if a women is expected to have sex with a man, emotionally support a man, cook for an man ect. Ect. Then yes, he should be providing. If either party cannot agree to that then get roommates and split bills. Why are men so opposed to getting a male roommate to split bills with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:24 PM
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Replies like these make me so RELIEVED that there are women who see the scam. Tbh, I think rooming with a woman seems to be a better option .. maybe because my drive is so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:17 PM
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Here's the thing, most women's Labidos are much lower than a man's and eventually it fizzles out. So what is the difference between a man you're splitting bills with a female roommate that you can also have a non sexual intimate relationship with? I don't think sex and romance work long term if it did I don't think so many women would be bailing on thier relationships (70% of divorces are initiated be women)... something is broken!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:05 PM
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Not sure what you're whining about. If a man has children with a woman he should be providing- like the post suggests.. don't want to provide then don't have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:52 PM
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This is a debate, if you can't debate with reasonable points then don't post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:50 PM
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Ma'am this is a debate.. not knee jerk reaction to a reasonable question. If you don't want a debate then don't post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 07:48 PM
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