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I don‘t want to have either mens or womens rights fought for in this way. As you said, it‘s tyrannical.
/r/MensRights15/07/26 03:59 AM
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They just haven‘t found conclusive evidence that SA has occurred and (probably) rightfully assuming innocence he was cleared of the charges. Proving intentional, false allegations is an entirely different affair.
/r/MensRights11/07/26 07:19 AM
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I have read your entire story. If it‘s not real, that‘s a great copypasta. If it is real, man, sorry you have to go through this. This woman does not have what you need right now. Even if she wanted to help you, I don‘t think she can. She seems to be in love with the idea of a relationship that neither you or me understands. And she also communicates in taylor swift songs that neither you or me understands. This has gone on for too long. The assault part sucks. To get justice you‘d need some sor…
/r/MensRights11/07/26 05:37 AM
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Ok. models next.
/r/MensRights09/07/26 10:29 AM
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Yea, I assume, with "treating ALL men as violent criminals makes them a misogynist" you mean "misandrist" and to that some feminists would reply "It's not the same because racism is prejudice and power and misandry isn't a thing because there's prejudice but no power." and then they'd argue that it's this difference which makes racism reinforce patriarchy while discriminating against men in this way would deconstruct it and thus it's okay.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 03:54 PM
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I got into mens rights through gamer gate. I was in game design school at the time. I don‘t like the idea to shut down games because of „what it represents“. I didn‘t like it back when feminists tried to do it and I don‘t like it now… like when they banned „Hatred“, a game about a guy running amok. We don‘t even know what the message of this game is, only the premise, though looking at the previous work of the developer I get an idea. If you‘re not that into artistic freedom and more into gettin…
/r/MensRights01/07/26 06:51 AM
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As a guy just getting into teaching I was told schools are desperate for men. I don‘t know if that‘s true, but I wrote a single application and got the job.
/r/MensRights01/07/26 06:35 AM
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Obsession is about a supernatural curse that takes over your mind and body. I haven‘t seen 50 shades of grey but by what I‘ve heard that‘s a different kind of controlling behavior.
/r/MensRights27/06/26 06:14 AM
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Most people use the words misogyny and misandry just as a hatred or contempt for women/girls or men/boys. I mean, there's plenty of feminist men who believe that "pretty much all men are trash", so to me it makes sense that that is also misandry. Meanwhile there's also women who say stuff like "most women are trash". I don't think most of these homicides you mentioned are motivated by a hatred or contempt for the male victims, so there would be a reason to exclude them from misandry. You can def…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 09:13 PM
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The argument is this: There are different factors that aggravate the punishment someone gets for murdering someone. There's first, second and third degree murder, manslaughter and so on. There is a feminist push that power structures identified as patriarchy should become one of these factors that play into the evaluation of a killing. Under these new rules a woman being killed by someone that has this kind of power over her should fall under so called "Femicide". There were attempts to establis…
/r/MensRights26/06/26 06:54 PM
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Lol, yea, you aren‘t OP. OP did in the thread title. That‘s the claim my original statement was a response to.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 10:30 PM
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You‘re right, you didn‘t ask, you stated that it‘s stupid to think men have power over women. And I gave one example where they do. Alright. In some of the places women tend to support sexist policies like the draft including switzerland where I live. Here everyone supports these policies and we actually get to vote on them. But none of that is relevant to the question whether men have power over women.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 10:02 PM
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How do you come to the conclusion that I was acting as if was exclusively men who voted that way? It‘s also not exlusively women who vote for war policies. I don‘t require it to be exclusively men to make this comparison. Actually I wonder if there was ever something that was exclusively voted for by one gender.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 08:10 AM
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That is indeed a dishonest way of using Roe v Wade, but it‘s not how I‘m using it. With both, military policies and abortion policies, both genders can vote and have power over something that only affects one of them. My point is that both genders have power over each other. I‘m using this as a refutation of OP‘s claim that it‘s stupid to think men have power over women. That‘s all. Sorry it sounds too close to a lame a** argument that also exists. I could have been more precise with my wording.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 08:06 AM
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Well thanks for laying that out. I didn’t know that. But I also didn‘t claim it was a men vs women issue. Neither is the military thing which OP tried to use as proof men don‘t have power over women.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 05:35 AM
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Well, their entire Patriarchy Franchise probably.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 05:29 AM
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I think you‘re moving the goalpost. Everything you say is true. Roe v Wade s still an example where men harm women with their votes just like war policies are an example of it happening the other way around.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 05:28 AM
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You asked how anyone can say men have power over women and made an example where women harm men with their votes. I showed you how that‘s possible by giving you an example where it‘s the other way around (ergo an example where men have power over women) and now you‘re throwing ad hominems. And honestly that argument is a non sequitor. If you said „How can anyone argue that women have no power over men“ and then brought an example where women have power over men, I‘d agree with you. Yes, the germ…
/r/MensRights23/06/26 05:24 AM
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Oh, we have an insulter here. True, it doesn‘t make the draft less sexist, but it‘s still power that men have over something that does not affect them directly and that has killed women. Also, I believe women tend to vote against war policies (at least they do when their democracy allows it lol) if that is a thing that matters to you.
/r/MensRights23/06/26 04:50 AM
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Roe v. Wade wants a word with you. Also I don't think when feminists talk about the power have over women they primarily mean the power to vote against the interests of women. They have done too much creative world building to be reduced to that.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 11:04 PM
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Well, if you ask me personally... my old school theater director Mrs Siedler was a competent leader. Philomena Schwab who founded a Game Design Studio in my City (and a bunch of my friends went working for her) is a great leader for as much as I can tell. Look, you are absolutely allowed to say that, looking at your post history you're probably coming from a christian weak vessel / strong vessel angle. It's just, I'm not comfortable being side by side with other MRA's because often enough some o…
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:36 PM
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Yea, this. They'll first ask you if you agree that men hold the majority of power. And as soon as you agree they'll just expect you to also accept that men can just freely wield that power and have in fact created society for their own benefit alone at the cost of women, as if that is a given.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 01:11 PM
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You really had to imply there at the end that women can't lead competently. I'll put you in my traditionalist box if you don't mind.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 01:06 PM
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Haha. I don't think they would state that as their goal. Also, according to body acceptance, a woman is healthy at all sizes, so eating does not need to be blamed at anyone, but overweight women experience discrimination because of the norms put in place by... (checks notes) ... Fred Waterford from the Handmaids Tale.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 08:16 AM
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According to what I've understood from feminists it's supposed to work through structures that either implicitly advantage men through how they were set up (like part time work being less valuable than full time work) or through implicit conditioning of society to see women as lesser which leads to phenomena like rape-culture. There's also the explicitly misogynistic stuff in religious dogma or the biological determinism used in some of the red pill framework.
/r/MensRights22/06/26 07:50 AM
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As i see it, patriarchy is seen as a system created by men for men at the cost of women which men will implicitly maintain unless they actively reflect about their own place in it (check their privilege, listen to women etc.) and work towards deconstructing it. So men are not necessarily the same as patriarchy from that perspective, but instead the clueless bourgeois local representatives of it. Also, fighting patriarchy in many ways means making society less targeted at men, which means explici…
/r/MensRights21/06/26 11:03 PM
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If being a male feminist means submitting first and to a person that has earned that trust within a relationship, I don't see much of a problem with it. Great read. Thanks.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 07:32 AM
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If we are strictly talking about rights, women are having fewer rights in a lot of countries and their oppression is real. In many other countries, women have more rights than men. I think it's not absurd to call that oppression using the same logic. Men always had to compete with each other. Competition is nothing fundamentally new for men. Explicit spelled out benefits targeted at one gender are new. The vote was not given to men because they deserved it, it was given to them because they need…
/r/MensRights18/06/26 10:00 PM
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I think men are always going to lose that game on who is more worthy of being protected. I think the correct way to approach violence is to say "every victim of violence deserves help equally, be they man or woman. Even if men were a minority among victims, that would still not justify excluding them from being seen, being taken seriously or getting help." If we look at men as a group that is victimized we will lose because it does not resonate with human instinct.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 09:40 PM
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After the birth it‘s biological necessity that the woman stays with the child. Afterwards it‘s probably a combination of women choosing to stay with their child and the convenience of staying with the new status quo. There‘s plenty of new circumstances for the new parents to adapt to, why rocking the boat further? Of course I‘m looking at this from an individualist‘s perspective.
/r/MensRights18/06/26 07:14 AM
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Yea, he'll probably still get a top engineering job, thats true. But that astronaut job is not occupied by the person best qualified for it. He still deserves that job, even if he had made a stupid decision. I'm only for reparations if the thing given is the same as the thing taken and the thing taken is the same as the thing given. (Which is completely and utterly impossible without some Jaba-duba-zeba-Technology). Well, if that is how children work then there's an easy solution on how to do re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 07:39 AM
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Hmm, then I'd like to get an example where reparations are not a zero sum game. And what do you mean with "present discrimination"? Yes, in Ireca's world the white dude has failed right at the application process of the university because they chose Ireca over him. Without discrimination the white dude has then started his own day care center for children, which, 10 years later, gives him a steady income. Now, in Erica's world, group based reparations would leave him with nothing. In Erica's wor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/20 06:45 AM
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Okay, imagine a woman of color, let's call her Erica. Her parents were in dept as a consequence of discrimination, she wanted to become an astronaut but would get consistently worse grades than her peers just because of discrimination, because of those grades and some more discrimination she would not get into a university and she would only get an appartement in a part of her city where crime is high. She'd get sexually assaulted because of discrimination which has dire consequences on her rela…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 10:00 AM
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In a town where men are pressured away from teaching jobs, the problem is the pressure and not the representation. We should do social work to reduce the pressure and make sure the kids get the best teachers they can get no matter who got a head start. It would be weird to bring some kind of competition into this. In your metaphor all people are tied up into identitarian boats where everyone has the same tools and level of success, and every boat and everyone in those boats heads toward the exac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 01:22 AM
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I haven‘t refused anything yet. If there is group based discrimination we can still identify it as such within the individual cases of discrimination. In my country there are guidelines in ensurance companies that guarantee that foreigners pay more for their car insurance. Potentially you just need to follow the trail of one person paying more than average to get this source of discrimination. To ensure equality of opportunity we need to find and remove the discrimination. That must be the solut…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 10:10 PM
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Yes, when gender quotas lead to somebody getting a job there is no way of telling that person deserved to get that job or would have been a victim of discrimination otherwise. The solution is disconnected from the problem. It's just fighting symptoms. If you can't differentiate between people who get victimized and people who don't, what are you doing? Then it's not about group victimization, then it's just about the group.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 10:35 AM
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Believe what is actually the case? That measures fighting discrimination at a population level can't actually fight the injustice within discrimination? Well, because such measures are usually the reaction to discrimination being an issue that is extremely hard to track. It's a crime of motivation. Usually if there are perpetrators they aren't even aware of it themselves. So because it's that hard to track, measures to fight discrimination on a population base always circumvent the process of fi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 09:25 AM
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Anyone who brings the physical requirements to do menial work or be a firefighter can do those jobs and men and there are more men than women who meet those requirements. There are more men who perpetrate violent crimes or become victims of violent crimes than there are women. You have encounterd people who try to spin these facts one way or another or used them to make judgements about you or other individuals. This is sexism. (Pain validation is one of the most powerful forces in the universe …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 08:22 AM
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Sorry for invading this discussion. Fighting discrimination at population level is a good thing as long as you can actually fight discrimination and not just the statistical indicators of it. The bad thing about discrimination is the injustice dealt to each victim. If we start discriminating measures to counteract an existing discrimination it will, in most cases, not help the victims of that original discrimination. It will only create new victims that statistically erase the original ones. You…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/20 07:41 AM
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