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Won't bother writing a thought out response. Total projection, no sources, no actual historical examples.
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 04:27 AM
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I didn't say big government in gynocentric society benefits men, quote me on that. Otherwise stop misrepresenting me dipshit. I'm not misrepresenting TFM either lol, he literally thinks a return to hard patriarchy which never really existed is a optimal system for men. It's ahistotical dribble.
/r/MGTOW27/07/16 07:38 PM
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TFM literally said wars and keeping the male population controlled is good because it makes women appreciate men more. Fuck that guy. I'm not trying to replace on form of gynocentrism with another. He's just like those Molyneux clowns. "We need to make women dependent on men again so they'll come back to us. We need to shrink the government bla bla bla". It's utterly ridiculous, because most women don't sustain themselves via welfare, because you most women actually work. It's just mental wanker…
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 02:12 PM
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Notice how even republicans never reduced welfare spending. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/unabridged-and-illustrated-federal-budget-dummies-part-1-spending
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 02:39 AM
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You're under the false assumption that giving birth is a %100 rational decision though, not only that the poorest of female demographics (black women) have much more abortions relative to their population so it's not as if there is no resistance to this. The fact is, humand being fuck. No sort of economic circumstances will ever stop this. You think serfs in feudal Europe cared if it was ethical spawn worker drones for the sake of a lord? Secondly, Most people don't have the attitude a child is …
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 02:35 AM
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Colttaine pointed out that neither right or left candidates reduced female welfare spending. It's a moot point, women would have gotten preferential government support regardless of which party they voted for.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 12:47 AM
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Men paying taxes isn't the issue, the issue is men not receiving proper compensation via social benefits from these taxes.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 12:45 AM
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I'd say single mothers are hardly at all rewarded for being impregnated, given that most of them live in poverty. If that's a reward I guess living off of unemployment or disability is a reward as well. It's damage control, sure we can let these people rot, but that creates another myriad of issues. You can save me the skyrocketing crime rates and slumlike urban landscapes that would ensue. It's a myopic stance to take because we'd still have to pay as a society either way. That sort of degenera…
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 12:43 AM
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THANK YOU. I'm sick of political ideologues seeping into MGTOW, because they're pro their political ideology and pro male second.
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 07:31 PM
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This video is absolute junk, if you're willing to try and debate me you can try but Colttaine made a few videos called "Suffrage and Enfranchisement", and "A Bigger Picture".
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 07:29 PM
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I hope you're joking lol.
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 07:27 PM
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The quota thing goes beyond STEM though, my point still stands, the vast of women get sustenance from the market, not the state. Say you're right about STEM, that's still only a fraction of the female workforce. Honestly though, I'd rather let the single mothers have their welfare, because for their children's sake, not because we should enable them or anything or white knight. The well being of a sizeable amount of future generations is worth some tax dollars. I assure most women aren't deliber…
/r/MGTOW25/07/16 04:06 AM
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Women outside if single mothers don't need the welfare though, because most women in the industrialized era have jobs. Most women aren't on hire quotas and the like, it's just our government gives them overwhelming more educational opportunities and priority. It's just superfluous allocation that could be be better invested in males. The New Deal was the last real large investment in men, and it was a success.
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 08:40 PM
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I think we're in agreement for the most part then, but I'm not against government largesse though, I'm against the gynocentric distribution of government support. Nor do I think western society is on the verge of annihilation. Likewise, Someone needs to help men and boys, because some rich alpha male isn't doing it. Society to move forward needs to invest in young male ingenuity. We can't expect male genius to be ready made out of highschool, and the free market/investors is not interested in pi…
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 05:58 AM
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The difference never really exceeds 15%. You see the biggest differences in race and other demographics. http://www.gallup.com/poll/139880/election-polls-presidential-vote-groups.aspx
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 03:33 AM
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Once again your biases are clouding your judgement. Go on Gallup, they're there. Voting patterns are not gendered. They're a matter of socioeconomic caste. Socialism was a movement begun by male voters, so this bs about women being inherent socialists is just bullocks. Women who are married tend vote right, single women vote left. If a man is rich and hates taxes, he likely be a libertarian. A working class man who feels he's being shafted by the upper leisure class likely is going to be sociali…
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 03:27 AM
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your biases are clouding your judgement. The point of the video women was conservatives or liberals would have still given some the government largesse regardless of suffrage. Women's suffrage had zero effect on that because male and female voting patterns are nearly identical. There was anti male laws and overwhelming support of women before suffrage. Regarding a "collapse", where do you learn your economics? TFM, Molyneux? Even if there was (which there won't be) No fucking economic crisis is …
/r/MGTOW24/07/16 12:14 AM
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Jerk off and make friends. It's not complicated. Men without strong bonds with other men are susceptible to emotionally predatory women. Companionship and belonging is an important part of self actualization, which is a key component of this philosophy. We wouldn't be here if we didn't value social interaction on some level.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 04:02 PM
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I wouldn't mind a system like this, because I don't take pride in my utility. More freedom for men to actualize outside of utility and women. Men can find themselves in the arts and sciences for the love of discovery.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 03:57 PM
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You can also make the case for humans being inherently socialistic to a point, as Barbarossa put it some years ago. Particularly when it comes to self defense (public militaries), as well as social safety nets like unemployment benefits. There are just some things humans aren't willing to gamble on by leaving it to the market and competition.
/r/MGTOW23/07/16 03:55 PM
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I don't agree with your last point, finish the video. It's an anti modernist ahistorical talking point. Prime example of learned helplessness. Civilization will be fine, it's never been a better time to be an individual actualized male.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:53 PM
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:) https://youtu.be/-UJRzZABCoY
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:18 PM
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You're backpedaling and strawmanning. I'm finished here
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:15 PM
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Colttaine already debunked this bullshit.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:14 PM
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Listen to this guy rationalized his own alienation and depression. Kind of sad.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:13 PM
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Our industrialized society makes male individuality more practical than ever before. I'd take this society over some post government shit heap. If you want to live like a wild animal, that's on you.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:12 PM
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That's a strawman dipshit. You're seriously retarded. I'm saying its impossible to be %100 self reliant, that's a delusion. You're conflating introversion with social isolation. Your biases are clouding your judgement.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:03 PM
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Introversion is not complete contempt of society and social isolation. You are conflating the two. Let's see how fun it is breaking your leg or getting sick or needing expertise from specialists with your definition of "solitude".
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 10:55 PM
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Dude if you wanna be a misanthrope, go ahead. Just don't try to use MGTOW as a means to legitimize your mental hang ups. Don't bother responding to me.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 10:50 PM
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You do realize Buddha's intense period solitude was temporary right? You do realize he came back to society to discuss ideas to help others correct? Please stop being delusional. Hell the monastic lifestyle you seem to idolize, those monk men still come together to congregate and create communities with. There's no reason for a man to be an island simply because it's not an optimal option. There's a difference between solitude and social isolation. The latter is the enemy of all men.
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 11:49 AM
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Thats a delusion. That is exactly the reason men get absolutely fucked over collectively. There's no solidarity unless there's an absolute crisis or something. Humans are social animals, everyone depends on someone else to some degree. Someone or some group needs to facilitate it so men can live freely. No great individual has been raised or cultivated in a vacuum; he's developed by the ideas and teachings of those of the past and those around him in his youth. Being hyperindividualistic won't a…
/r/MGTOW22/07/16 04:28 AM
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I mean cool I guess, but what does this have to do with MGTOW? This is a RP post.
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 04:35 PM
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Greed isn't good, I'd argue that rational self interest will keep you more satisfied and healthier. It's not like this guy is like Scrooge or anything. Excessive altruism and compromise is definitely part of what keeps men from being free in the first place.
/r/MGTOW20/07/16 04:30 PM
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There were anti male laws before female suffrage. Watch Colttaines suffrage and enfranchisement video. Women had political influence long before the vote, that's just a bs debunked talking point from mainly the far right. Voting patterns are mainly a matter soceoconimic caste. A greedy guy with a lot of money is more likely to be libertarian, than a socialist (which was a movement began by male workers).
/r/MGTOW19/07/16 03:39 AM
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I hate it when far right faggots try to rationalize police brutality.
/r/MGTOW13/07/16 03:11 AM
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Without any argument? Did you watch the video?
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 06:06 PM
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I don't have a negative opinion on it, but I don't have it in me to do it.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 04:23 PM
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/r/TheRedPill
/r/MGTOW10/07/16 05:20 AM
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RBK wasn't as cerebral or as sentimental as say a Spetz or a Stardusk. I think he is the perfect gateway into mgtow that isn't sanitized bullshit
/r/MGTOW01/07/16 12:04 AM
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First off, we need to define what checking out of society means. Do we mean not getting involved w women or being some libertarian rugged individualist? You missed the point if the mouse experiment, but trad cons will see what they want from it. People always interpret that experiments results to fit their narrative. First it was the environmentalists then the population reductionists and now... Well you know.
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 09:15 PM
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What does this have to do with MGTOW? Unless you're going to end marrying them this is a post that belongs in the RP
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 08:39 PM
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More collapse porn eh, haven't heard of any of that before...
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 08:38 PM
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I miss those guys
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 08:35 PM
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Ready to say something valuable yet? I don't care what you thi k the right and left are, both are gynocentric women panderers. No fault divorce w draconian alimony, rampant father less ness and draconian child support laws are the RIGHTS doing. Both right and left wing are both bullshit; I'll take today's society over the disgusting societies of the past where men literally do and die for everyone else. Neither are pro male, stop thinking that.
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 05:49 PM
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The voting thing is bullshit, women and men's voting haven't really differed at all, maybe in like two presidential elections. That just a right wing bs talking point. The right and left literally have always pretty much been anti male sovereignty so differences in voting patterns never really mattered. Our bloated military is basically the biggest part of the welfare state, because that's why people enlist anymore for the benefits. Stop listening to libertards like Molyneux or TFM.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 11:34 PM
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This devolved into a TRP thread very quickly.
/r/MGTOW14/06/16 12:28 PM
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TRP and white nationalism are essentially indistinguishable at this point
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 07:38 PM
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You're delusional. See the collapse the Soviet Union, life expectancy plummeted for men while for women it stayed about the same. All a collapse would do is push as a whole males to be far more responsible for women fucking men over even more than now. I'd rather the government be responsible for women than me. I'd rather pay taxes than have some pussy beggar faggot out trying to club me over the head for his reproductive success in a post apocalyptic Shit hole
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 07:18 PM
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My dad is 6'3 and was a college football defensive lineman, could've been All American. I'm 5'10, 145. Lol
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 11:31 PM
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The goal is to overcome that though. That's how men set themselves up for trickery and manipulation.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 05:44 PM
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This is not a PUA forum.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 01:43 AM
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Because it's fun.
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 02:49 PM
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It's incredible what you can do when a thirst for women turns into a thirst for life. Stay thirsty my friends MGTOW Hall of Fame. I was actually going to do something to thateg effect next year. Me and a buddy or two, going to jams across the country, going to museums and Shit. No sort of cuddling or orgasm gives me more pleasure than a well executed musical idea. Good luck dude.
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 11:58 AM
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Or just not vote at all lol.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 10:38 AM
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Doesn't mean shit. We live in an era of professional militaries, unless there's like WW3 this drafting women thing won't mean shit. I wouldn't want them taking the non combat roles anyway.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 02:57 AM
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I hope he's keeping track of his condoms after sex.
/r/MGTOW06/06/16 02:52 AM
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This.
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 08:32 PM
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What instrument do you play?
/r/MGTOW05/06/16 06:01 PM
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Every comment is a mtgow thesis lol.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 10:49 PM
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I'm more or less a nihilist so that doesn't mean anything to me. But I'm trying to be a professional musician with a highly competitive, niche and obscure audience so I guess my fill of risk taking has been quelled I'd say.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 05:39 PM
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The juice isn't worth the squeeze though, the guys here just being themselves bothers enough people. No good reason to actively do that.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 02:16 AM
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I don't want to get this sub banned or quarantined.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 01:03 AM
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I didn't say his ideas were invalid dipshit, that's a strawman. I just give zero shits about conservative values. I'd rather listen to Stardusk and Bar Bar because I'd rather not deal with the conservative undertones. He literally talks about nothing I cant get from actual MGTOW content producers, so I don't care about him.
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 01:47 PM
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Liberal policies are a scapegoat. There are no liberal policies to support feminism of there is no gynocentrism to begin with.
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 01:54 AM
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You finished?
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 01:54 AM
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How can he be a tradcon when he mentions men being raped in the video? So because he has some humanity he's not far right? Look at his video on Liberalism and IQ, watch his Black Lives Matter video, hell, look at his audience for Christ sake. He literally has a video called "WESTERN VALUES SINKING INTO OBLIVION." He's a trad con.
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 11:33 PM
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Meh he's just a far right nationalist traditionalist to me. He doesn't say anything I can't get from mgtow content producers.
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 10:38 PM
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Which is exactly why mgtow does, will, and should continue to talk about women. The more other men discuss it, the more valid of a choice it becomes.
/r/MGTOW28/05/16 02:06 AM
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It was true of men whether they were American or Dutch (known to be among the most socially advanced in the world). Contemplating a partner’s success, whether or not it was something at which they themselves had failed, led men to choose negative descriptions of themselves, although they said they felt fine. Women’s self-esteem, by contrast, was unaffected by the performance of their partner, although a partner’s achievement warmed their view of the relationship. Sounds like hypergamy “thinking …
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 05:07 AM
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I wasn't bashing you, just pointed out you're exaggerating. I said "do you".
/r/MGTOW21/05/16 08:29 PM
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That's a fairly black and white way to look at it. Yeah it's not like dudes are walking in public, dick in hand. Do you though.
/r/MGTOW21/05/16 05:18 PM
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And? Gene death doesn't mean anything, men with great ideas aren't remembered for their offspring, but their ideas. No one ever gave a shit about Einstein's, Mozart's, Stravinsky's, etc. kids. Why? Because there's far greater ways individuals can contribute outside of replicating their genetics. And besides, the gene pool isn't missing out at all. Plenty of Intelligent men in the past didn't reproduce, but we're still here. How does MGTOW exist today when the MGTOW of the past were just genetic …
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 01:00 AM
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You can't go your own way with a nuclear family, having people literally depend on you to the point where you're tied down and have to cater to them has absolutely zero to do with male sovereignty. Families are what keep men literally enslaved, living lives of perpetual servitude. If you want traditionalism then MGTOW shouldn't be on your radar. Gynocentrism is an entirely different thing.
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 07:35 PM
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Took a few years off of sharing to reinvent my concept and work on my technique. If I were to share it here it'd definitely be on a throwaway lol
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 08:55 PM
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Well we'll just agree to disagree, I definitely would just annihilate myself if I didn't have my art. To each his own
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 08:25 PM
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Life doesn't necessarily need to have a meaning or purpose though. I compose and study music because it's something to do, it's stimulating; not because I'm striving for a higher purpose or meaning. Man operates better on small projects and goals rather than aspiring for grandiose things, and I think that's where many nihilists go wrong. Instead of just appreciating minor fulfilments they seek something unrealistic like "meaning". Unless you're a person of god, have a family, spiritual, etc. You…
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 07:29 PM
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So basically, something something collectivism, fuck off.
/r/MGTOW14/05/16 03:20 PM
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I thought this was funny
/r/MGTOW06/05/16 11:09 PM
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/r/TheRedPill
/r/MGTOW04/05/16 09:21 PM
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Lmao I'd give this gold if I could.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 07:27 PM
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No idea really. I'd try this blog shedding of the ego
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 01:42 AM
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I remember Bar Bar made a great video shutting on the bullshit logic of circumcision. There's no good reason for it.
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 07:56 PM
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Love Stardusks intellectual rigor, thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 07:54 PM
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It's reactionary existentialism really. The point is being able to define your own point on your own terms.
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 03:34 AM
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Get to know actually her. See if you're just projecting what you want her to be rather than what she actually is. If she is then, your call dude. If you're willing to take that risk
/r/MGTOW30/04/16 03:05 AM
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Go watch Colttaine's Marriage, An Addendum
/r/MGTOW29/04/16 03:50 PM
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That's what it's all about. Defining your masculinity on your own terms, actually ACTUALIZING rather than playing a zero sum game. I can definitely respect that.
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 02:54 AM
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Good points, because immunity is hereditary to a agree, correct?
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 01:13 AM
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I appreciate the the analysis, I admit I did bite a bit too early on the story.
/r/MGTOW28/04/16 12:38 AM
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Funny (albeit a little sad) seeing those dudes in the comments w their NAWALT rationalizations. Never fails
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 10:11 PM
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What I love about this article is that it's confirming a lot of the work the MGTOW innovators have been postulating but from a non RP perspective. It adds validity I guess.
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 08:11 PM
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Genetics can't tell us why it happened but we know that a tiny number of elite males were controlling reproduction and dominating the population." And to think we're a pair bonding species!
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 07:16 PM
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We can only speculate as to what happened. The best explanation is that they may have resulted from advances in technology that could be controlled by small groups of men." You can't make this Shit up
/r/MGTOW27/04/16 07:04 PM
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Not that hard to figure it out, find out the relationship of when that comment was posted the video that best matches up w that time. It's not rocket science dude
/r/MGTOW26/04/16 06:11 PM
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I'm concerned that an otherwise positive movement could be seriously hampered by a vocal minority that is more concerned with spewing hatred and throwing childish tantrums on public forums than actually spear-heading shift in modern relationship dynamics. It very much to me seems reminiscent of the bastardization of feminism from its roots in John Stuart Mill's egalitarianism to it's modern version of outright sexism. It would truly be a shame to see MGTOW go down that route. Go watch Bar Bars l…
/r/MGTOW25/04/16 08:33 PM
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It's usually tradcons that ask that concern trolling bullshit. Surprised to here a MGTOW say that. Dude definitely sounds like a nationalist.
/r/MGTOW22/04/16 07:59 PM
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That's what I got from it at least.
/r/MGTOW12/04/16 07:18 PM
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Dominant isn't necessarily manipulative, children have their parents do everything for them, but children have (usually) have zero dominance over their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 11:10 PM
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Trying to give life some overarching meaning has done nothing but cause me existential angst and anxiety, there is no ultimate goal or meaning that isn't some sort of romanticized or rationalized ridiculousness. Just live for short term goals and accomplishments, that's what it's all about. Imo man should pursue what he can realistically and closely achieve as opposed to seeking a overarching ulterior motive. If it fascinates you, go for it. Actualize
/r/MGTOW09/04/16 08:34 AM
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"A lot of us are a blowjob away from jumping ship." You won't make it dude.
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 08:45 PM
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Definitely agree, but I think there still some valuable ideas amongst the tradcon ridiculousness. I definitely believe virtue is something men should pursue for their own sake though.
/r/MGTOW26/03/16 05:50 PM
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I don't think that is what MGTOW is ultimately about. Well that's what your issue, you're holding the philosophy to an arbitrary standard. There are some MGTOW's here who want offspring and want to contribute to the future, that's their perogative, and if they're maintaining their own personal freedom I have no qualms with their choice. You're not looking at the idea that some of us don't want to completely disengage from society and still participate in society whilst living on our own terms.
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 02:37 PM
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If what you're saying is true I'm sure they're attracted to something else. No women's pussies are getting wet over Tibetan Monks or hermits dude.
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:41 AM
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I've come to the conclusions MGTOWs are essentially reactionary existentialists now that I read that.
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:27 AM
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Lil Ugly Mane is dope. A jazz pianist I like by the name of Ryo Fukui recently died, his album 'Early Summer' is a cool collection of standards and originals. I like classical a lot too, 20th century modern stuff is my favorite era though.
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:19 AM
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This belongs in /r/TRP
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:17 AM
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As far as Redpill development, you are more successful when you have a finish line or end point to head to. TRP is about getting more success with women, whilst improving yourself. MRA is battleing it out against feminism to bring a balance to the genders. But where does MGTOW end up? What's the point of betterment if you only use it for yourself? Men don't need to subscribe to ideologies and movements like TRP and the MRM to have goals and motives you know. I can want to be a scientist who's co…
/r/MGTOW19/03/16 04:16 AM
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that's an interesting way to put it.
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 10:30 PM
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Simp and cuck are definitely two different things.
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 10:15 PM
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ie. Genghis Khan
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 08:05 PM
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/r/TRP is that way
/r/MGTOW13/03/16 11:33 PM
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This is it.
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 03:58 PM
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And do what exactly? Pay more taxes? Edit: not sure what the downvotes are about, I was agreeing with the guy lmao
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 01:30 AM
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I think you're making a false equivalence. The issue poverty is infinitely more complex and difficult to fix than someone feeling desired and appreciated. Like a said, it'll never be something worth legislating because it doesn't take much to do, go on craiglist personals, get a dog, go read TRP, start paying attention to the people who you never paid any mind to before. It doesn't take good school education or quality business connections to feel desired or love. That's why even the most poor o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:24 AM
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I'm sure the physical dominance wasn't an issue in his youth, he's just old. He's 6'2 and played tight end in his youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 09:11 PM
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Definitely agree. If you read anecdotes of how Trump was in his younger days, especially in high school/college, he was undoubtedly would trpers would consider "alpha".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:14 PM
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Do you think lonely people would honestly be satisfied with the artificial desire of literal whores? It's too much of a non-issue to legislate, if you want romance, all you need to do is lower your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:12 PM
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Sure, if that's what you believe. There are far more effective ways to preserve a legacy though if that's what you want. Nobody cares about Einstein's kids, nobody cares if people who've made their mark on the world had kids either. Their ideas are far more memorable and resonant than some people who happen to share their DNA.
/r/MGTOW11/03/16 01:41 AM
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I don't see it how could be possible to not like MGTOW's for not wanting to date women could come from a rational place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 11:09 PM
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Sure, but you definitely can't force people to love other people. What would there be government subsidized escorts? If someone wants love they should make friends; romance is absolutely the most overrated thing over. There's more to feeling loved than romance; it's a non issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:59 PM
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Make friends then, you can't legislate having giving someone romance. It'd be too artificial and intruding on people's direct lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:48 PM
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Good question, but love and romance will never be rights because one, people usually figure it out eventually, or two there are alternatives like porn or whatever. Poverty and being an incel are entirely different dilemmas imo. Incels not getting their dick wet isn't that pressing of an issue to legislate like people when someone breaks their arm or has cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:43 PM
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Sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 10:32 PM
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Having children isn't "living on", your kids aren't you.
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 10:31 PM
3

Lmao humans are so obsessed with legacy for whatever reason. It's pretty vain if you ask me
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 12:07 PM
5

But if you're no longer around, what difference does it make to you?
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 03:55 AM
7

So what?
/r/MGTOW10/03/16 02:45 AM
6

You can't do that w/o crossing the will of a lot of people, which is a violation of rights in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 10:53 PM
2

Pets, friends, family. If you have a hobby, meet up people that do the same thing.
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 01:03 AM
1

/u/thrownawaymgtow has been saying this for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 12:58 AM
5

I remember that post, it was on a thread I'd started called "Social Isolation". When I was alone a lot and living inside of my own head I sort of directed my biological need for human contact toward women and sex. I made some friends instead, and perished were those thoughts lol.
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 04:11 AM
1

Depends on which sex in the species sexual dimorphism favors. In bees for example the females besides the queen of course are the disposable workers. You're right though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/16 04:15 AM
4

It's being attracted to something that'll aid that self preservation, that's what he means I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 11:10 PM
1

My condolences man, my fault for the condescension.
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 09:01 PM
1

Luckily you haven't twisted a testicle.
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 08:23 PM
9

Males don't have to worry about walking around alone at night and things such as this... being raped. Most victims of street violence are men though
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 11:47 PM
16

Ad hominem arguments aren't productive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:24 PM
1

My main qualm with bitcoin is that if you have no power, all of your money is gone. I'm looking into silver instead.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 04:16 PM
1

Good for them?
/r/MGTOW24/02/16 09:36 PM
1

If that's what you want, go for it, but don't lie to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:25 PM
1

I'd love it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:45 PM
1

Muslims modernized Europe though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 04:49 PM
5

Reason seldom trumps biology in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:12 AM
1

I suppose so, if you're an artist or an entrepreneur, which is probably as "MGTOW" as any career choice, but unfortunately, not everyone is in that position. Can't see how that'd fly though in a bigger corporate enterprises, seeing as how conformist those type of companies are. I'll gladly admit where I was wrong though, it's not that black and white or clear-cut, I've no issue saying that, and my fault if I came off as a dick.
/r/MGTOW09/02/16 02:16 AM
1

How was that a no true scotsman fallacy? If you wanna play the fallacy game you just committed a fallacy fallacy. I never said anything along the lines of "Real _____ don't do _______". You just strawmanned me
/r/MGTOW09/02/16 01:16 AM
3

Yeah you're right, but my point still stands, appearances do indeed matter. Obviously I'm going to look how I want on my own time, but when I'm dealing with others when I want to make a good impression and be professional I'm going to look respectable, as I should be. Not to say that you can't be your own individual, but to garner the necessary respect of others in business or in another other setting you need to carry yourself with some dignity. Decent clothing is about 60% of that.
/r/MGTOW09/02/16 12:51 AM
3

Dealing with having to fake it till you make it for career purposes > Being homeless and broke. You're being radically idealistic, while I get you mean in theory, you're just being naive and impractical. Unless you're a mogul with your own business, good luck with that train of thought.
/r/MGTOW08/02/16 10:58 PM
3

How is it antithetical? You know most of the guys here have actual careers right, and need to navigate society as it is to SURVIVE right? Don't delude yourself into thinking that appearance has little bearing respect, a man who's well kept and groomed will get infinitely more respect than a homeless man who's dirty and unkept. Using clothes to command respect seems like a way of trying to manipulate other people into liking us. Tough shit, that's how professionalism works. You have to often go a…
/r/MGTOW08/02/16 09:13 PM
1

Dress well enough to get respect.
/r/MGTOW08/02/16 08:52 PM
1

Good for her.
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 07:03 PM
2

That makes a lot more sense, I appreciate it.
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 12:22 PM
1

It's sad, but true
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 05:04 AM
5

“To free a man from error is to give, not to take away. Knowledge that a thing is false is a truth. Error always does harm; sooner or later it will bring mischief to the man who harbors it.” Arthur Schoepenhauer
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 07:01 PM
6

Well you did a good job expressing it, but let that hatred become indifference at the very least.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 06:21 PM
2

I'm 17, I hope I'm not coming off as a dick, I just couldn't imagine being as flexible as I'd like with a family. Especially looking at my dad.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 06:19 PM
1

It sounds like you're rationalizing your decision, and I don't think being a dad is necessarily a bad thing, but it's almost impossible to have and real freedom when you have others that are so heavily dependent on you. Like if you really wanted to go about something on your own, you'll have them to worry about for the foreseeable future. It's cool you're happy though, man, but it sounds legally and logistically possible to be GYOW with such a huge responsibility.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 02:13 PM
4

How is it possible to be going your own way when you have the weight of a family? Sounds impossible
/r/MGTOW25/01/16 08:29 PM
5

TFM debunked that IQ distribution nonsense, they didn't survey women and men, they surveyed boys and girls, and in that case, the boys were in early adolescence and weren't as mature as girls were at the same age. When you survey actual men and women, men were superior
/r/MGTOW23/01/16 09:11 PM
5

Mom just manipulates my dad, pretends to feel bad about how overworked he is. Never changes, despite his grievances.
/r/MGTOW23/01/16 02:43 AM
2

There's no better definition of psuedointellectualism, lol
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 03:58 PM
1

Don't care
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 07:10 PM
1

Culture follows biology, not the other way around
/r/MGTOW18/01/16 04:30 AM
2

/r/MensRights
/r/MGTOW15/01/16 11:53 AM
1

Textbook sensationalism lmao
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 02:54 AM
3

This definitely isn't a troll.
/r/MGTOW10/01/16 09:29 PM
2

What I love a lot about him is that he's very self aware and doesn't have much anger or rage, just about betterment and useful knowledge. I hope he sticks around, his ideas aren't simple at all, but they aren't as abstract or theoretical as say Stardusk or CS.
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 11:20 PM
1

He's a very masculine and astute man
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 08:35 PM
5

A hypergamous MGTOW? Hmm Idk
/r/MGTOW02/01/16 01:10 AM
2

You're going to end up really fucking yourself dude lol, get a dog, make some friends.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 04:13 PM
1

Mind over matter.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 05:45 AM
1

/r/TheRedPill
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 02:53 AM
2

Outside of what I like to do? I don't know; I suppose I'm mildly spiritual, but not in a hocus-pocus new-age way. Outside of my passions/hobbies which are music and knowledge I can't really say there is anything outside of those that give me purpose (that I want).
/r/MGTOW30/12/15 06:14 PM
1

Well I wasn't arguing with a woman in particular, but I was searching thru fem subs and TBP, simply to see what sort of shaming/criticism I'd find there.
/r/MGTOW28/12/15 04:31 AM
1

Continue to do what I'm doing now, but at a higher level.
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 04:27 AM
2

Lmao what a last name he has
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 10:19 AM
1

Well I only follow like less than 10 blogs or so. Half of which of friends' blogs. The rest are just music blogs. I'm a big fan of the blogs "fripp100" and "marchioneguitars". Not the most exciting stuff in the world lmao.
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 09:59 AM
10

Listening to music, surfing my own little interstice of tumblr (mostly) divorced from the toxic nonsense that's the norm there. Going to sleep so I don't completely trash my sleeping schedule.
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 05:47 AM
1

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but I think Schopenhauer has an interesting view on these sort of dilemmas. “To free a man from error is to give, not to take away. Knowledge that a thing is false is a truth. Error always does harm; sooner or later it will bring mischief to the man who harbors it.”
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 04:50 AM
6

I like to play computer games every now and then. I play and study music. More specifically guitar playing, improvisation, composition, dictation, etc. Cool thing about music theory is that it can train your brain in areas like logic and reason, while at the same time it's highly individual. That's my hobby. I like walking/playing with my dogs as well.
/r/MGTOW25/12/15 01:26 AM
8

If getting your cock off and sexual intimacy means that much to you, get it out of your system, try it and see if it's worth it to you. You will need to jump through a lot of hoops and possibly lose your self respect doing so. Don't use MGTOW as an excuse though, if that's what you want don't repress it in this ideologies name. Just my two cents.
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 06:11 PM
1

Stockpile a bunch of water. Get into growing food. Perhaps patronize some projects I find worthy. After that I'd get into more materialistic stuff.
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 07:09 AM
2

Fair point
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 05:35 AM
2

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 04:55 AM
5

Well not to say she's a bad person either, just saying, we don't know the context of their marriage you know?
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 04:52 AM
3

Well not necessarily, it's might be practical for his dad to stay married. Perhaps his dad can't afford a divorce, and their combined incomes make for an optimal lifestyle for both of them.
/r/MGTOW24/12/15 12:10 AM
1

Sierra Nevada perhaps? Maybe Reno, it's nose to Cali anyway so perhaps that'll quell the beach need. I know the housing in Vegas when I lived there was expensive but I don't know about Reno or SN
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 07:46 PM
1

Not surpassed a LTR had something to do with it. Sounds like solid a plan. You have my well wishes on that
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 04:44 PM
2

Music composition, wanna write some solo guitar repertoire and develop a fuller concept for unaccompanied playing.
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 04:02 PM
3

I hope you don't get yourself back into debt dude :/
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 04:01 PM
1

This is awesome ahahaha
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 06:08 AM
0

Wait, what does getting in a relationship have to do with someone getting abused? Most people don't get into relationships with the intent to stop someone from getting abused; that's not love that's pity. Are you down-voting me as well?
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 05:36 AM
-2

Desperately need help? People get into relationships/marriage to help those that desperately need help? I mean I guess if you're a white knight. We don't owe society any civic duty. To hell with that collectivist tripe.
/r/MGTOW23/12/15 04:53 AM
12

Happy for old guy. PC tyranny could've done him worse I suppose.
/r/MGTOW22/12/15 05:58 PM
6

I don't think you need to tell anyone that
/r/MGTOW20/12/15 03:33 AM
0

Say no more, I'll fuck off if that means not having idiots bugging me on reddit.
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 07:27 PM
2

This. Women don't really want to have careers really, I mean this is anecdotal, but my mom is an electrical engineer. Say about 7-8 years when I was about 9-10 she got sick and took a leave, she hasn't worked since then. She complains about how she never saw my siblings and I enough growing up.
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 12:52 PM
3

If I said well "Most people in this African nation have really dark skin", and say the actual figure was 80%, is it really necessary when some jackass comes along is like, "Oh well that isn't true I know someone there who um is Asian!". It's being a pest. Exceptions by definition ARE the minority Some of us have better ways to spend our time rather than playing piss games on reddit, now fuck off.
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 11:58 AM
7

B/c generalizations are practical. No one has time to weed out the exceptions
/r/MGTOW19/12/15 04:45 AM
7

His whole post history is just ad hominem nonsense. Surprised he isn't banned yet.
/r/MGTOW11/12/15 05:18 AM
8

Porn also causes ED by rewiring your brain to only orgasm to a video and not the real thing. So?
/r/MGTOW08/12/15 04:38 PM
0

I don't see how people questioning other people's desire to have children in this thread is an issue really, it's a forum of discussion. I mean it is relevant to the topic as well. If you don't want discussion go google search answers.
/r/MGTOW08/12/15 01:41 AM
6

I think it's less that they didn't let them help But it's that women never wanted to in the first place. Women don't do hard labor now I don't see what the incentive would be for them in the past when they would just be provided for
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 02:37 PM
3

A collapse happened in Rome already, white knighting didn't go away then it won't go away now.
/r/MGTOW06/12/15 02:35 PM
1

I'm not afraid of that, at least not yet. I guess I'd have to be in that position to know.
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 03:11 PM
1

I'm not socially awkward really, I'm definitely known as eccentric but I have no getting prior to like me. I'm really just sick of having to be tied down by my nature. It's really making me misanthropic, I don't like the fact that I'll always have biological imperatives, because they're obsolete to me. I hate the idea of being ruled by instinct like an animal
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 03:08 PM
1

Isn't transcending one's biology a pretty key MGTOW value? I see what you're saying though; transcending your biology is cool, but I can definitely where it can get almost hedonistic, simply doing it just to do it; rather than weighing the pros and cons and what not. Isolation can be pretty for sure.
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 07:34 AM
2

I agree with you here, but I'm talking extreme social isolation if you will, being a vagabond, hermit, monk, etc. I'd rather not let this devolve into a semantics pissing contest lol
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 05:09 AM
1

I cant see in my mother to be honest
/r/MGTOW28/11/15 03:15 AM
3

Far more fun things you could do in school than get your dick off. Isn't an orgasm like 6 seconds?
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 04:49 PM
1

Meh don't expect anyone here to validate your rationalizations. Plenty of good info in this thread though
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 05:10 AM
1

Is it projection if it's true? We're by definition animals; thinking you aren't doesn't make you exempt.
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 01:23 AM
1

Thinking you aren't an animal yourself is complete arrogance.
/r/MGTOW27/11/15 12:14 AM
2

Rationalization because most men simply can't Monkey branch like females obviously.
/r/MGTOW26/11/15 06:19 AM
8

She's just trying to rationalize her hatred
/r/MGTOW25/11/15 09:07 PM
1

Males themselves in nature don't decide who is the "alpha" or "beta", that whole dichotomy is based on female validation and approval. The whole thing is subjective really, another packs alpha, is another's beta. Unless we're talking just about superior genetics and what not.
/r/MGTOW07/11/15 04:47 PM
1

Males themselves in nature don't decide who is the "alpha" or "beta", that whole dichotomy is based on female validation and approval. The whole thing is subjective really, another packs alpha, is another's beta. Unless we're talking just about superior genetics and what not.
/r/MGTOW07/11/15 04:47 PM
-1

More like enjoying the attention they get from doing so. Most people don't wear a suit or nice dress around the house just to do it
/r/MGTOW04/11/15 12:04 PM
3

Not sure if concern trolling or not, but yeah watch something like When Female Privilege Backfires
/r/MGTOW04/11/15 11:51 AM
1

Duly noted
/r/MGTOW27/10/15 09:32 PM
1

I'm infertile, but shit I would love to get pregnant then I'm not a woman ??? Alright then
/r/MGTOW27/10/15 09:16 PM
3

Because you don't agree with him? I wouldn't be surprised from an angry woman though tbh
/r/MGTOW27/10/15 08:45 PM
1

Is this a joke?
/r/MGTOW27/10/15 03:44 AM
1

Seems like an easy way to go to prison with that attitude
/r/MGTOW24/10/15 11:13 PM
1

Yup a PUA's are pickup artists
/r/MGTOW21/10/15 11:00 AM
4

Same age as you. At this age we sort of have neural plasticity on our side you could say. Never been a better time to hone in on self control and discipline. Regarding the whole men and women loving differently there's way more material on YT that can describe it far better than I. Check out "she'll never love you" by TFM Also: don't listen to PUAs
/r/MGTOW20/10/15 04:46 PM
2

INTP here, I'm more of a go with the flow type. I'm not so much concerned about that destination but the process, I've come to find you might find something on the way there that's more important than what you were seeking initially.
/r/MGTOW16/10/15 02:41 AM
2

I completely agree
/r/MGTOW12/10/15 02:18 PM
2

To me the whole PUA thing is really just learning how to fake being your own man. Obviously, if you're your own man and simply just achieve, women will naturally be attracted to you. It's just learning to pose as such
/r/MGTOW11/10/15 11:41 PM
3

All romantic love between men and women is based on lust/sexual attraction. The whole point is to have a reason to have sex and have babies
/r/MGTOW08/10/15 11:00 AM
1

Ad Hominem
/r/MGTOW25/09/15 11:43 AM
1

Maybe men are getting actual houses
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 05:00 AM
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