JustACasualTraveler Archive

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1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. I doubt you can say anything intelligent if you can't read	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:53 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. You are clearly missing the point and the scientific definition isn't want anything that can be deemed better about the other person..	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:52 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense I won't be responding if I did not read right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 06:49 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense I will take that as a win	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:53 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense What is the difference between deference and submission when you functioning agree with whatever he decides anyway??? Lol You are just get beating around the bush because they word used are entirely irrelevant when the functionality is the same	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:50 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. So you basically decided to call things women want hypergamy?? Okay what do we call men wanting beauty and innocent girls and virgins??? And hypergamy actually is wanting someone of higher status which is not specifically tied to modern construct of wealth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:46 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. This is literally not true lmao What literally but Tru An attractive man can be unemployed and women will still turn him down Depends on why he is unemployed... Lots of women I know who started off with a man that wasn't particularly doing much at that point But the point again that's also true the other way around unless they only care about banging her once An ugly guy can be extremely wealthy and women will still want to be with him. You're just delusional How much women???? Because you are e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/24 08:41 AM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Me / Her - Gap 51 / 42 - 9 years 50 / 32 - 18 years 47 / 30 - 17 years 46 / 24 - 22 years 45 / 40 - 5 years 32 / 21 - 11 years °here is me doing everything in my power to only date relatively extremely younger women and I found 6, so women in general love old men	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:50 AM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Women aren't sexually attracted to younger men either. Utter bullshit..	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:44 AM
1	Red pill gets a lot of things wrong but the biggest lie is that younger women are sexually attracted to older men Attraction is more than physical is called romantic attraction and both men and women feel it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:42 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. Yes because an attractive woman can put she's unemployed on her dating profile and it will literally not effect her dating options Because they want to fk her, and unemployed is hardly the same as she doesn't know how to do shit in her life An ugly woman can put she's the CEO of mazon and it won't net her any more options I can say the same about ugly men	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 05:16 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. What those standard that don't revolve around her pussy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 05:13 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. That's because of social circles and proximity. Given the chance You think an educated man would want an idiot that can't hold a conversation to spend their life with??	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 05:10 AM
1	If men and women were so fundamentally different, they wouldn’t behave the same 90% of the time. It’s just guys here are more in denial of the similarities. Men will gladly date a younger, socio-economically lower woman. Women will not do this Because to think males a woman's beauty is her status and value, so essentially the same thing. How do you explain how men brag when they get to sleep with a attractive female or how men use attractive females as a symbol of their high value	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 05:08 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense it's nit about "allowed" I could stand my ground and fight all day. I DONT Than you won't be submissive ..lol.. The whole point behind men wanting submissive women is for her to shut the fk up when a decision matters to him It's hilarious how easy your colors change as soon as the true implication of this dynamic hits you in the face Your argument is basically he doesn't allow you because you can choose not to be submissive. Well yeah, but when you do choose to be submissive, you believe he shou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:37 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? In order for you to be able to rely on someone, you should be able to follow them or yield to their authority, otherwise how are you relying on them if you won't listen to them. What's your definition of relying on them emotionally?? That they want a man that will take the burden of them having to think and make life decisions ??	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:35 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? ×Isn't this what the comment was saying when they said the following And then wrote an essay illustrating things that she does as a follower that have nothing to do with being submissive and following.. Can you pick a single sentence that aligns with the true meaning of submission, which is conforming and yielding to authority?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:37 PM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense these kinds of ties don't happen every day, are you picturing us disagreeing on EVERYTHING Exept that's completely besides the point. Whether you agree or no, in both instances he controls the decision. You are only allowed to decide in the sense that he allows you by not having a differing opinion The question is why is he assumed to always be more right when you disagree just because he is a man, so how often that happens is completely irreverent why is it making you so angry It's not making m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 08:34 PM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Submission is literally conforming and yielding to authority In what way is caring for your partner the real meaning of submission?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:34 PM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense To fair, i mixed you up with a another commenter, but then again, submission does require that you have faith that the other will always be smarter, wise, and more knowledgeable to you right , or else you are deciding ahead of time that you will do whatever that person no matter how immediately bad it might be to you. In a way, that's prove enough that you shouldn't be trusted with any decisions anyway . Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:27 PM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? You’re just viewing “dominant/submissive” superficially. Submissive =/= slave. Submissiveness is a way of interacting with/relating to another person. It does not mean the sub gives up all of their autonomy. And whatever autonomy they do give up, it’s their choice to do so, hence confirming their autonomy So a submissive can choose to disagree with certain decisions and still be a submissive? feel like that’s what so many people on here don’t seem to understand. No one is saying women should be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:19 PM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? How ironic... I bet your definition of submission is that he calculates the bills while you paint your finger nails...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:15 PM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? I’m “not an adult” and 100% of kids should be in daycare to you The point completely flew over your head.. I am using your silly logic asking why women have children if they aren't going to be 24/7 glued to them, so my question is why do men? ×Women who work in an office and commute 40-50 hours a week have no life. What is having a life then? Opening your legs and have a man pay your bills??	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:12 PM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Right. So even though I’m smart enough to earn money at home and not pay a stranger to watch my children Whose watching the kids 24/8 when you are in the computer? I’m “not an adult” and 100% of kids should be in daycare to you Did you forget that you were literally the one who claimed that you don't have to lift finger?? It's funny how you all the sudden turned into the hustling mother when you realized how childish it made you sound	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:09 PM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? If a person doing what i want with the option to object when I disagree, where the heck is submission exactly?? Having less responsibilities as a submissive is not the same thing as being submissive because you have less responsibilities.. A woman can be a whiny and still not have anything to do. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:06 PM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense It'd funny how it's suddenly shifted to "certain maturity" when you submit on everything and said you are never right right basically when you disagree	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 07:02 PM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Well, yeah. The consequences of a bad decision always affect both spouses… it’s just that the spouse that was advocating for a different choice but abdicated doesn’t have to feel guilty about causing the consequences You underestimate humans ability to rationalize their choices especially when they couldn't have predicted the outcome What makes a good or bad decision. Is relative, so I doubt he'd feel much guilty Moreover, it's interesting that you care more about not feeling guilty than actuall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:23 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense I’m a woman who believes in submitting to her husband. I do, in fact, consider him superior to me in those ways [hello, hypergamy ;)] I like that I can trust his judgement Does that mean he never consoles you?? Since you are always wrong and stupid compared to him The other side of being the leader in a relationship and having a submissive partner is having to take responsibility if you pick the wrong choice Husband : let's buy a yacht and go destitute Wife with 5 children: I really like the fee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:17 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Basically.. I am stupid than my husband is smarter	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:15 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense You said that you sometimes accept or yield to the will of your husband and vice versa. Thats submission. By definition. Sometimes you are dominant, sometimes he is You should open dictionary more often.. So allowing someone to do someone is being a doormat??? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:10 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Thats rich coming from you. I dont nag about you having your cabinet with make up or dresser with clothes that surely will outnumber the clothes that i have. Do i have the right to alter your individual needs in any way, even though they affect the space i live in? Fuck no You should work on something called false equivalence because you are extremely illogical and irrational buddy If you shut your mouth and let me paint my door. You are not serving me Again. What the comparison between wanting …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 11:04 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Dude you are comparing individual trivial requests to a man wanting a woman that have zero autonomy and freedom in her life and think you sound smart. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:54 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Now.. please focus... What we call a behaviour of a person who always have a say in what she or he wants to do, which contradicts or individual wants and needs ????? You are literally describing the man asking a woman to submit to him.. Lol A person having a say in something that affect them is not controlling; the fk is that logic	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:50 AM
1	The way TRP describes female submission makes 0 sense Your argument is literally they should submit no matter what shit the other person might be on..	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:47 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Literally none of that require submission lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:15 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? A woman being submissive means she has so much less to worry about in life Like not having t the freedom to decide anything?? What less does she have to worry about when the man could be fk up their lifes? You realize a woman doesn't have to be submissive to delegate certain responsibilities to her partner right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:15 AM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Your question admits that you are indeed not an adult, but to answer your question because they are doing it manage other responsibilities ... They are literally working arm contributing financially, so pathetic ass comparison	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:12 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Yeah and you can go to the doctor, but when you are uneducated and useless what are you going to do when there's a high chance you will abandoned soon?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:08 AM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Explain why a man should have a baby and expect a woman to have no life so she can care for that baby?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:07 AM
0	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? I just described the benefits of being submissive You literally only described how you having do nothing but care for the children benefit you.. Where was the benefit of being submissive in particular again??.. And then you insult our intelligence about you not having to lift a finger. Are your saying your husband is the one, cooking, cleaning and doing all the work to care for the kids?? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:05 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Men will always prefer a woman who's comforting, instead of combative. Aa opposed to all these women looking for hard headed combative men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:02 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? The point I was getting at was that submissive women can still be equal partners That's inherently contradictory unless they aren't really submissive	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 10:01 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? There is no such thing as man inspires then to be submissive because their idea of submissive 99.9% of the time is that the guy will do the things they don't want to do and then call it being submissive	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:58 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? That's literally nothing to with what submissive means that it's straight out disingenuous	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:54 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? Because it has nothing to do with being submissive so much it's almost straight out disingenuous	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:52 AM
1	Where is the incentive for a woman to be submissive? This is very well said. I love to serve my man. If he feels happy and cared for, I know I am doing something right Literally none of what you are describing means one is being submissive.. Submissive means one thing and that is conforming to authority no matter how one feels	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 09:49 AM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? Prove please... And you seem to think cultural and environment is not part of how human beings function biologically.. Biologically, humans absorb most of their behaviors, values and mentality from their cultures and environment	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 10:43 PM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? I don’t think men are necessarily whining about it. They are instead frustrated they have been fed loads of BS regarding romantic love and what women actually want vs what they say they want That's called whining and not living in a descriptive reality. Lol And men have been told since the down of monkeys that women love money and rich men, so what lie are they fed again? ×Additionally, your skepticism of the data and calling it cultural (which is a claim you’d have to prove with data of your ow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 10:27 PM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? Thank you for the link... My lesson to you. Any one can make up bullshit and call it science, but also, I did not even dispute that they treat and see women as objects, so an irreverent article that did not even prove your assertion that this is hardwired in men .. In fact, I recall the "study" showing that even women perceive other women as sum of body parts unlike they did men , so this reflects a cultural attitude on the perception of women more than some difference in the way the sexes perce…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 09:39 PM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? Nothing you said was relevant and contradictory to what I said Men complain all the time about being seen as wallets and being used by women , right? So was you baseless scientific rant about them being hardwired to look at things as tools and live in a description reality? Yet, I can also say the majority of women support sex work and that entails viewing women as objects. Your conclusion has no logical connection to the premise	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 06:41 PM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? There is a bug difference between being treated as a sex object and being treated as desirable.. Sex means that's all you are to me, am object to fuck. No doubt most gay men will enjoy that in the I luv run It has to do with the underlying connotation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 08:04 AM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? It is simple and it is the fact that men don't live the cultural reality of actually being treated as a sex object.. To men sex inject equals sex with lots of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 07:53 AM
1	Why is it that Men „enjoy“ being seen as Sex objects, while Women don‘t? ×Men in love still generally want to fuck other women It not about desire.. It's the fact that men are more likely to see women as sex objects and just means to an end so they easily detach sex emotionally Most women in love or not still find other men sexually attractive, it's just that they have a harder time detaching sex from the intimacy they have with their man..	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/23 07:51 AM
2	Why do women expect equality in decision making but not equality in paying for things or completing house tasks? Tyrannical or not is irreverent to that fact that he still wants me to do whatever he wants and have no agency.. I mean it's literally on your conditions...he don't even respect me as an individual with thoughts and feelings	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 04:00 AM
1	What is the big deal about submission? You are still not describing submissive relationship, but a relationship where the two partners are paying on their different strengths and qualities and even than nothing is absolutes. And let's cut this sexist crap that men are more grounded as women are emotionl mess	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 03:48 AM
1	What is the big deal about submission? what i’m describing is a conscious decision of “hey you’re better at this stuff than me, take the lead but run it by me Can you disagree with it? If yes, you are not submissive.. If no, you are obedient and submissive	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 03:44 AM
1	What is the big deal about submission? I I don't see anything in what you wrote that changed submission from being obedient. That's a long ass paragraph just to say she consent to being obedient	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/23 03:41 AM
2	Do women prefer bad boys or do they unintentionally create them? Does the bad boy smack her in the face? That uncertainty?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/23 04:12 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ It doesn't bother me at all that you don't care about infidelity.. What bothers me is your logic behind your acceptance However, I bet on my life if your husband brought another woman to you and took her into the bedroom, or expressed his love for her, you are but going this merry about it.. It sounds more like an "ignorance is bliss situation" The irony is that it's actually women your who are so afraid to be cheated on that it's easier to just believe that you don't care .	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/23 04:01 AM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ Decades long for a healthy man with the benefit of preselection while married What's your rational than that this is possible for women too? Men are only as faithful as their options. There are krone than 7 billions people. Literally everyone has a option, so they are not all men just cheating? A man with "values and morals" doesn't change his hormonal make up or biological design. False premise because he doesn't need too. He just have to abide by his morals and values.. That's why they called …	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 11:45 PM
2	Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender? Cheating is the least of it. I’d say being prepared to lie to not only your partner but you child, your child’s siblings, all of both families and all friends present and future every day for the rest of your life, knowing that when it comes out lives will be destroyed. It's despicable action when you unravel and analyze it logically, sure but it still something most would unfortunately easily do if the alternative is admit that they have cheated and are now carrying someone's else's child and r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 10:15 PM
1	Why is asking for a paternity test a relationship ender? I disagree with the post, but this is such a narrow and simplistic take . You are saying either trust 100 percent that your partner could never cheat in the 100 years you are together, or don't be with them, but the world doesn't works like that , else no one will be with anyone .. Everyone is capable of cheating. Also some people can choose to forgive cheating, so it's your subjective opinion that mere possibility that one could cheat means they need to be broken up with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:18 PM
1	CMV: Asking for a paternity test is not an accusation of cheating, and women who think like that are red flags You still didn't answer - do doctors accuse you of lying when they don't just take your word for it? No because patients can be wrong without intentionally lying? There's no need for such combination of words because it's already not an accusation of cheating by definition It's a suspension of cheater.. Better? If they trust that you did not cheat, what's the point of the confirmation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 09:00 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ What you idiot is not getting is that what terms means is completely irreverent because the conclusion is in the meaning behind this behavior on a psychological level. Every cheater understands when he is confronted and asked why they cheated they are not being asked for what caused their actions on a molecular level. He/she that they are being blamed for what they did, so what the fk is the point of just giving an explanation of they are still owning up to their actions?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:33 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ Ah I see, you just don't understand how excuse used in different contexts can have different connotations The irony.... Seems you are the one having a hard tien with this. So why did to cheat on me 'it was just my biology " You" they are just explaining and not giving an excuse because look what these words mean on Google " lmao Stupidest display of stubbornness I have ever seen	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:27 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ Dude... No amount of dictionaries is going to change the fact that all cheaters behaviorally use nature and biology as an excuse to shift the blame off of themselves.. Stop being so stubborn and ask yourself why they feel the need to only give an "explanation" when they are being confronted?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:23 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ An excuse is still based on an explanation especially when it still within one's control .. You are being ridiculous..	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:21 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ An explanation? No nature or biology can force you to fuck someone else.. It's a decision period.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:19 PM
1	Women don’t cheat because they’re ‘emotionally unsatisfied’ Any man who swears up and down that he would "never cheat" is either insulting my intelligence by lying to me, promising me that no other woman would ever dare find him attractive enough to give him an opportunity Have you heard of something called self control and having values and morals?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/23 08:17 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? What happened to listening to the man who "cares" about you.. Lmao The last time I checked you don't ask for return to care for someone you love and care about, let alone asking to dominate and oppress them in return.. You people expose your own bullshiting so fast it's so entertaining	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 10:25 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? I think why are you answering a question with an irrelevant question Not irreverent when your implication is that being fed elevates one from being a slave As for dick, I'm a big fan of sex toys, and maybe will eventually do reviews. Cuz what's a more honest ad than reviewing a product you literally put your dick into Than why are you worried about having to feed a woman? Are they forming their way into home and you are just offering services out of the pureness of your heart, provided we leave …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 10:14 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? How many random strangers do you allow into your house to loot your fridge and trash your place every day asking for nothing in return? Because not doing so means they're your slaves You are not very keen on logic are you? If the something in return is that they have a slave like status than they are slaves ? Not rocket science	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 10:00 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? You eat my food, you follow my rules Than maybe you should learn to suck you own dick and make and raise your own children.. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:56 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? I don't want a submissive anyone Than what are you ranting about? ×If a woman chose a man more capable than her, and delegated the full burden of her survival and comfort onto him, then for as long as she stays at his place and eats his food, she shits where he tells her to, sleeps where he tells her to, and stops doing what she is doing when he tells her "NO". Because he quite literally knows better. You explained the slavery in a nutshell... Good job. Nothing better when someone rants just to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:44 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree But of course to be in such a relationship you cannot be with a man that doesn’t care deeply about you and doesn’t have you as main priority. A man can love you and care about you deeply and still fuck you up because he isn't you to be the best judge of your self interest .. Moreover, he is fking human and flawed and what love might mean to him might not be what is best for you You think men in the middle easts who think their wives should take their permissions to leave their house don't love t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:43 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree I think you just have to try such a relationship to understand what I mean I need to try the relationship to understand what you mean by men need to have superior capabilities than a woman in a relationship? Believe, I understand what you mean just perfectly, and i fail to find any sound logic in this kind of self afflicted oppression and inferiority complex. You think I haven't had my share of dating benovalanty sexist men who think as a woman I need their superior intellect to guide and lead m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 09:30 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? Have you seen an average married couple lately? Do these women look "subdued Explain" I want a submissive wife " instead of fk giving me examples of how men aren't succeeding in making women their sexy pets What does not apply? Women being terrible slaves? You know the government had to hold guns to employers to convince them to hire women, right? It still does. ?????????	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:42 PM
1	Studies show the higher the IQ a man has the less attractive he is to women You would imagine that the most intelligent men find it hard to find "intelligence matched" women and the competition between these men gets higher, with less women available at or near their IQ. I highly doubly these men are that worried about finding a woman that matches their exalt IQ score. Most people just don't want an idiot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:36 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? Yet men still want to subdue them and call it enriching their lives ... Lol It most be so enriching to have no autonomy and freedom. Why don't you enrich your life by listening to your wife ? And how come this does not apply when they have jobs? They slaves for having ambitions and careers right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 05:25 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Can I remind you that are the one who brought dumb into the conversation, I just confirmed that no, I wouldn’t choose a man that I find is more dumb than I am Nope. Your premise was literally based a contrast between both of your and his intelligence, wisdom and judgement.. What did you mean by better capabilities? I just need to be able to trust his decision-making. I want to be able to lean back, let him lead And that requires that he has the final say on literally everything how? So a woman e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 04:54 PM
1	Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men. Of course not ahaha. My work is all online so every single dollar I get is a result of my advertising and marketing which obviously requires typing You can hire people to do the marketing and advertising.. Also there is microphones But, I guess it helps that you can yourself. I don't have sex for money° My bad. It thought that's what you meant, but unfortunately, all types of sex workers aren't perceived much differently.. Moreover, even though you don't, people often still don't believe sex isn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:29 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? How does a person who wants me to be a slave cares about me? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:10 PM
1	What would a society in which all men are red-pilled look like? No kidding, the amount of times I've seen men shut up completely as soon as the woman starts talking, while they look at the roof, the floor, or they look at each other (even their oppositors) with an annoying face and start making stupid facial expressions, like on a "OMG... Here we go again... When is this woman going to shut the fuck up? Why do we need to put up with this?"... So an entire organization of men did that and always do that that, but only you noticed ? Why would they pretend she …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:03 PM
1	Men who say they want feminine women, don’t want feminine women. They want SUBMISSIVE Women. Why is not being a dormant like a submissive	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:15 PM
1	Men who say they want feminine women, don’t want feminine women. They want SUBMISSIVE Women. Because submissive women are typically children-like who want someone else to think for them and make decisions..	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:13 PM
1	Men who say they want feminine women, don’t want feminine women. They want SUBMISSIVE Women. Because they believe feminity = inferiority? Please, don't start the "different but equal bullshit"	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:11 PM
1	Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men. Then* I definitely do need to know how to write for my profession lol.And that's not weird at all So if you didn't know how to write , you would have been a less successful sex worker? The person I was responding to implied that my parents don't care about my future, which isn't the case at all & is a very dumb comment to make considering I have a successful career AND a backup plan thanks to my education. Perhaps a good future isn't measured in how much money you make? How about your contributi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:23 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Not JUST that? which means you do think a woman should just be the stupid one? How about a man that is just that? Neither dumber or smarter? And you are moving the goal posts.. You said nothing about him thinking he is dumper .. You said he is dumper if he doesn't almost always know better than you . That's just you wanting to be incredible stupid and naive .	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:04 PM
1	Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men. My education does have some practical implications with my work in that I’ve studied sleep, mental health, sex; all things I’ve implemented in my videos, as well as IT studies which help with editing°° What kind of degree is that? But overall my education isn’t necessary to do my current job, which is totally fine. I’m making more money anyway and enjoy it more than any industry job I would’ve gotten if I did follow my education path Good for you, but than it's weird to brag about being educated…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 04:41 AM
1	When men say they don't want a career woman, it's not that they don't want a woman who has a career, they just don't want a "boss babe". Lots of men find intelligence attractive..	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 03:40 AM
–	Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards. How about get a man a random pick of 100 women and see if he wants them all equally. That's more in line with what you are describing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:29 AM
–	Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards. So you are equally attracted to 90% of women? Lmak	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:27 AM
–	Porn's impact on males' standards when it comes to women is equivalent to what dating apps/social media is doing to women's standards. A man thinking a woman is good enough to fuck isn't the same as being attracted to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 02:21 AM
1	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs Where did I deny women care about looks When you literally say a woman is not affected by the looks of a hot man alone and you always needing to add 100 other factors for you to consider a woman feeling anything sexual for a man ? How is that being visual in any sense? Being “more visual” implies attaching greater value to how a potential sexual partner looks Exept that's to what a means.. It's about stimulus and completely separate from what a person might choose to value and prioritize in a pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:52 AM
1	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs This binary thinking is wild to me. Less ≠ not at all. What part of "you don't see women being bothered by the looks of a hot man is a spectrum to you? The problem is you want to make it sound like you are saying one thing , but your arguments logically conclude another, and that is women basically don't experience physical/sexual attraction to man's bodies..	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:22 AM
1	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs This binary thinking is wild to me. Less ≠ not at all. What binary thinking? You literally denied any instance of women caring about looks.. I don't see much spectrum left. If a woman need 100 other things to feel physical attraction.. That's being zero visual. Lol In comparison to men, I believe women are not as focussed on/motivated by a man’s looks as men are by a woman’s looks. I’ve already explained my reasoning What do you mean by motivated? Give me a contrasting example between men and wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:08 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So? The point? For it to be submission, you can't pick and choose what to listen to.. That's called normal ass agreement/disagreement decisional dynamic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 01:01 AM
2	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs Where have I said that women are NOT visual? I said women are LESS visual than men There is a point where "less visual" just means not visual.. Can you give me a tangible example of how this "visual, but less so looks like? Female celeb crushes seldom come down to just looks - it usually has a lot to do with “vibe” and finding a character that actor plays sexy It's 95% looks. The other context and narrative are only noticeable because of the looks.. There is a reason the most crushed in men are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:50 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners Submissive literally means subservient. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:48 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners Trust? ... It's called reality.. Yo are not some fk all wise and knowing God. She is not so stupid you just always to better than her.. and I know this hurt your ego, but I bit your wife was right lots of the times, but your narcissism won't allow you to see it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:47 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners Here you go again with your voices not mattering, one sided, yada yada You literally want a relationship where to can do whatever you want and feel superior emotion, mentally and intellectually and we should believe you care about her opinions? Wanting authority to decide what part of her opinions you want to agree with and permit is essential not caring about her thoughts and individuality..	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:42 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners f she considers me to be ignorant or incompetent, she will have to find somebody else that can do better° Like you do her? .. The fk irony..	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:38 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners Authority since l'm responsible for her safety So all decision in your relationship is concerned with her safety. Lmao?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:36 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners If she does not agree than she doesn't trust that decision by definition. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:33 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners Submission=trust If submission was trust there won't be a need for submission in the first place because there will always be 100 agreement . The whole point of submission is that you obey even if you disagree, so it's obviously not just about trust.. Moreover, how the fk is it remotely possibly to trust that someone just has all the answer to literally every problem or decision unless you believe they are some God?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:32 AM
1	Guys don’t seem to be on the same page about submissive partners You are way off base. That's literally the definition of the word.. A subservient	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:24 AM
1	RP’s idea of a submissive gf is a lie And why would someone else be the best at deciding your best interests? Another thought worth mentioning to the therapist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:16 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Do students need to take permission from their teachers to do literally anything in their life? Do you think a slave and master are inferior vs superior relationship? Why?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:12 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree I don't think you understand what submitting to another is Submission literally means obey without question .. If you can rebel anytime and challenge him. You aren't submissive.. That's just called agreeing with him most of the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:11 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree You are missing the damn point and that is even if she gets 90% of all she wants, it only so because decided that she can, and that's mostly because you don't are much that particular decision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:08 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Nope. Not at all. If we disagree on something and it's more important to her i'll let her have her way And if you decided it is not more important for her?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/23 12:05 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So she wanted you to decide and think about everything and you never thought "what an idiot" low key.. Lol No one should take any lead.. It's not a military battle... There is not a single sense where one person controlling everything and always having what they want on the expense of the other is a ground for a healthy and stable relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:57 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Yes, I agree.. Being able to consciously choose everyday to be treated as a stupid inferior child and basically having no autonomy of your own and be happy about it is a indeed a remarkable mental strength If you can stop at anytime, you are not submissive.. That's not how shit works... Dominant people in relationships with submissives aren't worried about keeping their respect and submission.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:47 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree If she can stop when it no longer suits her than that's playing along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:45 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Yes, I agree.. Being able to consciously choose everyday to be treated as a stupid inferior child and basically having no autonomy of your own and be happy about it is a indeed a remarkable mental strength	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:44 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree you have picked a man who’s capabilities you don’t trust to be better than your own. You have simply picked the wrong man°°° What a load do crap. Most decisions in relationship aren't even going to have shit to Do with capabilities And you are saying the right man is one she is just significant dumper than?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:42 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree For one thing, you have to have confidence that his way is the right way. If you don't think he's usually right you can't really respect him If you always think he is right than what the fk is the disagreement about? But he can respect her when he thinks she is usually stupid?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:38 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree It's an analogy, not an equation Exept the similarity between the two objects determines the validity of the analogy..	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 11:36 PM
1	Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men. And how are you using your education in your proffession?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 09:48 PM
1	Women are extremely visual in all other facets of life. It's completely irrational to think they make an exception for men. So your father would watch you fucking dudes for money?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 09:46 PM
3	CMV: if you feel it’s fine to ask your wife for a paternity test without cause, you should also be fine with a wife choosing to live outside the home for fear you might kill her. Just because you can name a common element between two things, it not enough to make them similar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 09:08 PM
3	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs Most men aren't pairing off with the most attractive women either because even men don't simply want looks in a relationship	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 08:54 PM
4	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs Just seeing a tall man or a photo of abs or a guys butt won’t get most women wet. Interested, yes - but not actually aroused and ready for sex. But seeing an entire hot man will... How do you think women have crushes on male celebrities? This isn't an example of women not being visually, but women needing a full human to feel sexual attraction, not a dick on an image.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 08:52 PM
1	men need to stop projecting and understand/accept that women’s sexuality will never be the same as theirs Men will be attracted to a woman solemnly because she is a female is literally the opposite of being visual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/10/23 08:45 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples I guess if raping people was tied to biology and not character, people would just trust rapist more and want to be in relationships with them to help raising the kids ...lol. The whole point dude is that the action itself inherently reflects on you negatively regardless of what's causing it. You'd think it's easier to trust the one who chooses to sleep around and it's not a need for them than otherwise. When this is your level of reasoning and logic, don't go around calling people dumb.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 12:11 AM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples meant to say physiological. You're arguing that men and women don't see sex differently because some womeen are promiscuous. That's like saying men and women are the same size because, well, sometimes they are. It doesn't change the fact that there are natural differences among the two genders that lead to certain characteristics being a lot more common in one than in the other. I literally neve Mr made the claim that men and women see sex the same. I'm not debating which is more common How comm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 11:13 PM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. Men evolved to have no social consequences from being promiscuous? .. It's so intellectual lacz of an explanation for such complex and situational behavior that is obviously rooted in so many social constructs and prejudices. Why can't men just cheat on their wives and sleep with kids now than if everything is just an expression of evolution?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 10:32 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples Because male's promiscuity isn't tied to character Really? I will constantly want to cheat on you because it's in my nature and won't be be able to be happy and satisfied with you alone isn't an indication of an undesirable and untrustworthy character in term of a being a committed partner ? You are literally saying they can't control it. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 10:26 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples If both can have the same height, what's the physiological difference between men and women ? When we talk about differences, we talk about averages. The average man is taller than the average woman. Some women are taller than some men. But it's still natural for the men to be the taller being. So when you see a 6.2 ft guy, your brain won't register it the same way when you see a 6.2 ft girl. One is relatively common, the other is incredibly rare. I know how statistics work Women can like to fuc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 10:22 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples If both can like to fuck around, where is the different brain wiring exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 02:46 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples Becausee that's who men are, in general. Men value sexual diversity, and if they have the chance to fuck a lot of women, they will How does that answer why women should trust them and think they will make good partners!	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 02:45 PM
1	If only men with no options wife promiscuous women then why do we see celebrity men doing it all the time? Logan Paul, Will Smith, Russell Wilson a few examples Why would I want a woman that's been used and Sex is using a woman. Great	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 02:42 PM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. Using your logic, monogamy and marriage is are hard wired in men because these practices are seem among all human cultures. In fact monogamy is the dominant relationship style.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 02:18 PM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. No because they have no standards..	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:17 AM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. Because men use this to shame women for not allowing them to cheat on them.. It's not like men have used sexuality to control women..	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:13 AM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. There is nothing unlikely about it at all. Humans independently develop similar ideas all the damn time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:11 AM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. You are right, of course, but while they are young and at their most desirable men want sexual adventures with multiple women Have you looked around? Not only young boys are acting like that.. The fact this happens more with young guys shows its about the novelty of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:08 AM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. The fact that men are wired to be polygynous (this has been illustrated cross-culturally) shows that there is likely a biological reason for this behavior from men Just because a behavior is everywhere doesn't mean it's biological. Sex is fun and pleasurable and men generally could engage in it for without much social backlash and consequences.. It's that simple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:06 AM
1	The underlying reason for every single issue being discussed here and the dating arena at large is very simple - men are just way hornier than women. Supply and demand drives every metric in a transactional world. Doesn't mean it so the only variable. All it mean is that these women needed more more of the hormone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 09:02 AM
1	Most men are as loyal as their options No that's saying it's a fallacy to think that the lifestyle of being a billionaire makes no psychological impact ... "A man is as faithful as his options" implies that the average male already has the moral compass of a spoiled entitled billionaire, but they haven't found a woman they are attracted to cheat with....It's ridiculous. Moreover, the main point is that it's not about options. Most men have options to cheat with women they are attracted to.. Being a billionaire might increase your cha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 01:41 PM
1	Most men are as loyal as their options O think it has more to do with the fact that men in these positions are mire5 likely to feel entitled and that they should get away with everything, so that barely speaks of the average male experience and mentality I mean do you think only the 1% male have an option to cheat with an attractive woman? Are attractive women only welling to be the billionaire and millionaire? In short, men always have options.. There literally no man that isn't cheating because all the women welling are ugly. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 12:57 AM
2	Most men are as loyal as their options It's not true that most men cheat though. However, only small fraction of married people remain in love anyway , so what is so hard for you to believe that most cheaters are eventually are out of love? .. The greatest fear of a man truly in love is loosing the woman he loves.. That's enough to keep his dick flat for other women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 12:52 AM
1	Men who have sex with a lot of women are usually even more misogynistic than 'nice guys' more like 80 to 90 Whose the 10 percent? Because at this point you've included every type and age of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 12:36 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree The irony... Either have the balls to display how logic invalidates or debunks my conclusions or take you own advice.. Unless there is no wisdom or benefit behind women needing to be submissive, the only reasonable conclusion to the idea that you as a male you inherently get to make all the final important decisions is exactly the mentality that to are inherently superior in doing so.. You may not want to consciously believe or admit it because it's uncomfortable and indefensible , but it's an i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/23 02:38 PM
1	Q4M, why do you think "submissive" has such a negative connotation to women in the west? I believe I said as "opposed to the men in the east after you claim western men are abusing women ? I am lost now. Who think are more protected, western or eastern women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 05:30 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Well then, you're just a bad leader. Nobody should ever follow you if you're looking down on them. Does God have to think he equal to you to lead you? It hasn't nothing to do with good leadership.. It's just facts.. Leaders are topically chose for their superior competence.. Note, we are taking about equality in terms of skills and competence, not "basic human worth" have always thought of leadership as being a service to the group. It's a responsibility. And in that sense, it's a burden because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 03:25 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree I can't imagine how you can view yourself as a leader and not see the other person as inferior You are lying through your teeth if you are telling me you thought your position and the position of those who have to just follow you are equal... And I understand that you were just trying to refute a specific thing OP made, but context matter, and although you may not have directly touched the subject of leadership in a marriage, you will still come out as ultimately trying to defend the idea that s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 02:37 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Yeah, I can see that. You're frustrated because I've called you out on a serious personality flaw. You apparently aren't enough of an adult to take a step back and review the thread and realize that what I'm telling you is true and important and is the cause of much of the frustration you experience in life. And makes you think I didn't? I've been the captain of a team. I've been a platoon leader and a company commander in the military. I've been a manager and a senior software developer. I've b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 01:17 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree I am asking you again. Do women have to obey their husbands? That's all I need you to answer.. After that you free to write all the post about what submission means etc....	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 12:52 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So you didn't believe a woman should submit to her husband? If you do, how is what I wrote above a strawman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 12:42 PM
1	Q4M, why do you think "submissive" has such a negative connotation to women in the west? Yes and you wrote a rant about men needing to provide and women having it so easy to leave their husbands (so ignorant) and that's your summarization of how eastern women are more protected?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:32 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Because they are oppressive by definition especially when a major element of it is that someone just mindless obey the other based on irreverent matric like gender..	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:24 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree It's not strawman when you believe a man simply by being a man deserve a higher respect and reverence for his judgment and decision .... How is requesting and expecting that you as a man should get to be the one to decide everything is not thinking too highly of yourself?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:22 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree That wasn't the question. How did you arrive at the conclusion that a submissive and a leader are equal of you didn't have some form of definition?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:18 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Being submissive doesn't equal having zero input, decision making abilities or ability to think freely. It literally means that.. Can she make any decision freely without your approval and permission ? Let's call a duck a duck. You are not a leader.. What's your mission and skills exactly? You are a male with an authority to control how much his wife gets to think for herself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:13 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree . She's an expert in her field. I'd be dumb not to let her make any decisions, I even seek her counsel on lots of issues Then why do you expect her to be submissive to you and that you as a male get to decide when she can or not make a decision if it's not because you believe as male your opinions and judgements inherently inherently superior ? No matter how you want to sugarcoat.. It's you who decides what she can decide.. What you allow her to decide what she will cook as an expert in her fiel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 10:06 AM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Huh? Why not? I don’t think it’s common for husbands to pick their wives clothes out Your example of her being a vice precident with an important role and therefore has a say in the relationship is that she can pick her cloth? Even in trad relationships women make a lot of decisions like what to buy at the grocers, a lot of them budget, buy their kid’s clothes, but their own clothes, decide what meals to prepare, plan their daily schedules and their kids schedules etc Because the guy doesn't wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 10:26 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree you don't understand the blessing that it is to have someone handle all the bullshit How about having to power the decide what bullshit they should handle? You are acting like having authority only means handling bullshit.. What if his decides that she handles the bullshit?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 10:01 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree In any relationship, one person will be more dominant, just based on personality and aggressiveness This is absolutely an entirely different thing than just accepting that your partner just get to dictate whatever in a relationship and no matter how inconvenient .. No matter how submissive someone is, there are still things they'd like to in control of and decide.. Nevertheless, nothing you said disproves or contradict that a submissive and dominant people have inferiority and superiority comple…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:57 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Have you never led someone through a forest? Have you never directed collaborative work? Have you never taken charge of where a hangout is going You realize all of these are very specific situation that require specific skills and experience? What are you offering your wife that she should just give up her autonomy to you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:52 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Please define submissiveness in a way the submissive and dominant have equal positions and authority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:50 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree ^ Maybe it's possible to be a leader in a group of equals If you think your opinion and wants should matter more than our partner's just because, where exactly is this equality. The problem is a masking it as "leadership" when it's just an unnecessary and unearned structure of control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:48 PM
2	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree “I have a say, but he has the final say Allowing her to talk isn't her having a say when he gets to decides what part of her say he will respect and allow.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:44 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree president and vice president relationship. So it’s not like the wife has no say or counsel I guess the president just shoulders the ultimate responsibility and has the final say That's still essentially having no say and authority. She literally can't make any damn decision even those concerning her personally..	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:40 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So general subservience means blind stupidity? Not trying to straw-man but that does seem like your insinuation And authority of the man and the submissiveness is not only in a specific context. That's the point..	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:34 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree So general subservience means blind stupidity? Not trying to straw-man but that does seem like your insinuation Exactly right. If someone(the dominant person) is driving a car because the other doesn’t know how(subservient person) do they not push back.. If the dominant person chooses to ignore the warning, the submissive person will just shut up and go along..	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:33 PM
-1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree No it's not an insecurity to want a girlfriend who would allow you to control her.. What are you leading her to exactly?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:31 PM
0	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree Someone being submissive does not mean blind obedience. Exept, that is quite literally what being a submissive means.. You conform to authority and let the other always have the final say.. Period.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:28 PM
1	You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degree A boss is quite literally a superior.lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 09:25 PM
1	Q4M, why do you think "submissive" has such a negative connotation to women in the west? To be frank, I don't understand the point of this post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/23 03:09 AM
1	Q4M, why do you think "submissive" has such a negative connotation to women in the west? To be frank, I don't understand the point of this post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/23 03:09 AM
2	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women I'm not asexual or in denial You are a sexual being you don't think it matters that much that you are sexually into the one person you could probably have sex and intimacy with forever? And somehow you want to convince me you won't want to have that in your relationship given the choice? .. Call me stupid.. Nothing I've said is conflicting Where did i say there were confliction? If you don't understand it that only speaks of your emotional immaturity. Now this is a stupid thing to even try to ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 01:47 AM
2	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women I felt sexual infatuation in my teens and early 20's. That shit goes away as you mature and your priorities change I still do and i am 35...you just want to project your lack of excitement for your boyfriend onto everyone However, all this talk is irrelevent to my simple point I didn't say I've NEVER experienced it You said you didn't feel it for anyone quite literally, but it's beside the point. You're trying to make broad statements and i don't even know what you're asking at this point. It's …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/23 01:01 AM
2	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women Do you even understand basic English? If you experienced something you did not experience today, your feelings will then will be different than you feel today.... BASIC LOGIC I am not describing how feel perosnally feel now or how you perosnally fuction as a person for you to tell me i shoud'nt assume i know oyu better than you do yourself!!!! However, How do understand a feeling you literally said yourself you have never experienced?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 11:32 PM
–	Men control relationships, but only men that have been chosen by women in the first place Ua people seriously have no clue have attraction works	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 09:59 PM
–	Men control relationships, but only men that have been chosen by women in the first place Behaviors and instincts manifest consciously though. We aren't robots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 09:52 PM
1	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women My point still stands.. Theoritically if you could or did, you feelings would be much different. However, attraction or infatuation isn't just sexual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 08:50 PM
1	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women If you aren't that physically amd sexually attracted and infatuated by him .. How would it not change by defintion if you were to feel that way on top of whatever you feel now? ... It's just common sense. Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 02:08 AM
–	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women You would have had on top of your feelings sexual and physical attraction .. So by definition the would have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 02:03 AM
–	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women You missed the point of the question.. The point is that your feelings would have been even more tightened had he been hot on top of all his others good qualities.. However, there is an interesting thing with love and that is it does make the person feel more physically beautiful to you, so essentially to you he is subjectively attractive, but that's beside the point.. I don't think it absolute.. Physical attractiveness does have a strong affect on how a man would make a woman feel - i mean it's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 12:28 AM
1	Women who believe their “platonic” male friends aren’t in fact orbiters; why do you think they aren’t attracted to you? Right that's what I said, the feelings aren't platonic but the relationship itself is unless/until it becomes something more But when people say that they are often talking about the other person harboring more than platonic feelings and and having other intentions and motivation that aren't platonic .. Ofcourse if there is no sexual or romantic relationship than the relationship isn't romantic or sexual (aka platonic).. So I don't agree that attraction means you necessarily want more than a fri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/23 12:22 AM
1	Women who believe their “platonic” male friends aren’t in fact orbiters; why do you think they aren’t attracted to you? I don't really understand this idea that if you're attracted to someone it means the relationship isn't platonic The relationship may be, but the feelings aren't is the point and that makes the motivation even more difficult to be just platonic ... If you are having crushes on your friends than your desire is to be with then, not to have just a friendship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 09:57 PM
–	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women And had you met a more attractive version of your boyfriend, which you think would have made you feel even more?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 09:52 PM
–	Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for women You think him setting her ladies parts on fire aren't feelings?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 09:49 PM
1	Stop using "submissive" as a placeholder for a weak woman. Reality is often the opposite... In the grand scheme of things why would a TRP man be excited to be submissive when they believe they have to lead Because submisison is actually "strength"? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 11:05 AM
1	Q4M, why do you think "submissive" has such a negative connotation to women in the west? Because men in the west abused submissive women so much they protested for their freedom As opposed to men in the east? Lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 11:00 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? I never said I want to deprive a woman of her autonomy, What autonomy does a woman have when she is submissive and all "important" decisions are made for her? and yes if I didn’t write it. I didn’t say it Someone is unaware of how language and critical thinking works. You think you have to literally write men are better than women for your ideas to express so? You wrote it in so many ways , it's just that there were lots of beating around the bush	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/23 02:53 AM
2	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? When did I ever say I was “better” than a woman just because I’m a man? I When you decided that you get to be above her in authority and autonomy because you are a man and literally wrote "men are better leaders ? Just because you didn't literally write soemthing exactly doesn't mean it isn't there.. That's what comprehension and critical thinking are there for. I also said women are completely capable of making their own decisio Exept all the "buts" you added to it like they are emotional, inde…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 02:39 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Wrong about what? You aren't even making any sense.. Are you denying that you were encouraging the idea of women being submissive to men under the excuse that they want to be needed? The whole damn point is that wanting to feel needed doesn't excuse subjugation women, which is what submissiveness is.. Or are you denying that what submissive means? Because there only one definition of the word and its not any of the sugar versions being proposed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 02:31 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? I expect to earn respect And great telling us that being a woman means you shoud'nt want to be respected and trusted if respect and trust according to you means submitting entirely to a man. How do you respect and trust your wife? × I think that’s actually what most men mean when they say submissive. You didn't actually explain a concrete meaning, just beat around the bush. "my wife isn't submissive, she just does whatever i say because she trust me and respect me " lool...	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 11:08 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? You are missing the damn point.. It's in the word "submissive".. Defending the idea that women should be submissive because men like to feel needed is exactly where you said that. It's called reading comprehension and critical thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 10:20 AM
2	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Leadership skills are also tied to decisiveness, and it’s often important to not be emotional when making important decisions Men are equally emotional if you don't rediculously think anger, impulsiveness and horniness, all the emotion men are notorious for, aren't emotions. Morever, this a relationship, not a corporate and thus 98% of the "decisions" are going to be very personal, subjective and common sense things, not solving world hunger.. . A woman being more emotional doesn’t make her chil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 10:15 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? The problem that you think a man selfishly needing to feel needed means he get to dictate mu life and order me around when he can just go fix the sink and throw the garbage.. That's being needed..	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 10:02 AM
2	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Thr ability to make decisions and leadership skills in general are tied mental capacity and maturity though, so i don't think how it won't boil down to treating women as undeveloped stupid children that need to be guided... Why is she not best suited for a leadership role, which is basically making regular and typical day-to-day decisions , as a woman ? What skills and qualities do you think you need to be a leader and you think are best in you and lacking in your wife because she is a woman ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:45 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Protect, provide, parentally support, make the major tough decisions when necessary and take accountability for when things go wrong, then fix it And by major tough decision you mean whenever she doesn't agree with you? and take accountability for when things go wrong, then fix it Like? Because it seems like just artificially staking on a bunch of tough tasks that doesn't actually play out much realistically to obscure the main and probably only active element of this leadership , which is "i do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:41 AM
0	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? My wife listens to be because she trusts my judgment What are you an an infallible God? Trusting somone is not the same as believing they will know everything. For a wife to make decision 80 years before hand that she is just going to let you decide everything whatever the issue and circumstances , she will have to both believe she is that incompetent and your are that infallible and all knowing, which is bullshit because no woman could realistically believe that, which means she trusts you only…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:30 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Put briefly, Men in general have an instinctual need to feel needed and to provide Doesn't fk mean he should control my life.. He can go fix the sink all he want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:28 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? When you love a woman you can’t be corrupted due to your undying desire to protect and provide Sorry, but men abuse and use women they love all the damn time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:18 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? <She is of course a valued council and a good man will often concede to his wife’s desires and wants willingly. BUT she should still have no decision over her life? .. Just as a woman willingly gives her submission to a man, he will willingly give her what she wants Exept if he doesn't like them. The man Still decides what he is willing to give , but the woman "while you call it willingly" has no choice in when she gives him power.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:17 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? So before we chose man we should know all the things they could or couldn't agree to in tge future?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:12 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? <When you find a man who makes you happy Isn't the question essentially about whether that kinds of man respect her ib the first place ?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:08 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Oh so the good reason for the relationship for him asking her to not go is that it makes the happy. But why does it make him happy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:04 AM
1	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? <Being disagreeable is a generally masculine trait. Despite it being described negatively it is positive in many regard We are still waiting for all the positives	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:02 AM
3	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? I like a woman to trust my judgement and have faith in my leadership. Her opinion is valued, and heard. She is respected, but I like to be the one who calls the shots Why should call the shot? Is she stupid or a child?	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 03:00 AM
2	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? And even if that specimen existed, they are still not you and they still will never understand your needs and wants like you do yourself..	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 02:51 AM
1	What does agreeable mean to you? Don't women want someone taller, earns more, more experience, bigger ocial and profesional circle, more confident, stronger, etc??? None of these shit have anything to do with how much authority and autonomy one in a relationship.. Morever, it's not "i want a superior",.. It's "i want the best and most desirable", which is literally how both men and women think, it's just that the desirable traits are different... For example, men also want more beautiful and u Younger women than themselves	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/23 02:31 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Who the fuck said that...none of those things depend on men agreeing to be financially manipulated. It's as if women aren't going to stop wanting relationships, sex and children too just because they will have to contribute equally . The point is changing this narrative is absolutely in control of men, they just don't because it's the easiest and laziest way to sex and getting a women ..	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 10:02 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I’m not sure what guys should do in this situation Refuse to be in the situation..	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 09:22 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. The whole underlying premise here is that men are being force to be providers because women chose to stay home . The point is not is forcing men to pay for anyone. Their penises are.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 06:44 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. No one said you should be ashamed for anything, just stop blaming women for men choices	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 06:22 PM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Not enough to compensate for years of being his maid and child carer, and surely not enough to make up for the future of having shitty jobs.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 03:23 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I mean that's naturally part of a discussion.. Having opposing views..	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 03:14 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I didn't say woman first.. Second who is making that difficulty and whose responsible for fixing it?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:48 PM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Ahh isn't that the point of having a discussion especially on a sub discussing gender issues?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:42 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I’ve refuted every claim you’ve made actually Summarize these refutation for me You literally skipped body of paragraphs refuting your simplistic understanding of the law just so you can cherry pick a part that suits your narrative which is really just to make any random and baseless accusation agaisnt women without accounting for any of men's choices in supporting and perpetuating these issues.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:39 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. But that’s not the case though it’s a false assumption on your part It's an assumption that men often are willing to pay for the sex way more often the the other way around? Couples often join their finances because they consider themselves to be a household it’s nothing to do with sex I am not taking about joining the finances dude, but about how men often let women use them financially If we’re so obsessed with sex how come you’re the one making the leap to it being the motivation for financia…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:36 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. You’ve setup an account just to check me here here and troll. What makes you think my new account is for you? You don’t understand the subject matter but are commenting on a post that hasn’t been active for nearly two weeks but I’m wasting your time? That's why you are finding it difficult to refute me? It's easy to disprove a the ignorant right? I didn’t approach you opposite way round if you feel it’s a waste of your time then why are you still commenting? Everytime we get to a point,, you fly…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:33 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. It’s 100% relevant. Women treat their partners money as if it’s theirs It's completely irrelevant to the law because it's down to both the choices of men and women..women aren't threatening men with nukes and rubbing them of their many.. Men just like pussy so much If you’re saying that a wife using her husbands money is him spending it on sex wouldn’t that make all of these women prostitutes? That's not what i said.. I said men do it because they are desperate for sex.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:31 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. If your aren't going it stick to a point then stop wasting my time because now your are just ranting.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:27 PM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. For the earliest years, the mother is naturally more suited to raising the baby How many years does she breast feed? She has bonded with it for 9 months, done the hardest thing in her life to birth it and literally gives it food from her own body I don't see how any of those things mean she should care for it herself alone. Shoving the baby in child care with a bottle of formula (if you can find it) is not healthy for anyone and negates the reason to have a child in the first place. Than why did…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:26 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. And who usually contributes more Comletely irrelevent.. Feminists claim that women earn less but also make up the vast majority of consumer spending…… There’s only one way that can be true The point? Whose choosing to spend on them for sex 😏 We are just going in circles back to the initial premise.. It's all about choices which men and women equally have..	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:20 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Family courts on paper are rarely the same as in reality though. Especially where I’m from (the uk) it’s pretty much a free for all here although it will soon. At the moment they’re held in complete secrecy but they’re about to be partially opened which will change how judges act Than you should question your laws.. I don't see what does any of this have to do with feminism or women making certain choices	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:19 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. You are misrepresenting the legal argument. Both men and women are entitled to half regardless of who contributed more money, and I don't see how that has to do with our given scenario. Morever, there is something called prenup or making marital agreements...	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:16 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Here is a summary i found Your spouse may be entitled to support if he or she can demonstrate one or more of the following: financial need arising from the marriage or its breakdown, an entitlement to compensation for the economic consequences of the marriage, or a contract between the two of you that sets out a support obligation on your part So it seems that financial need caused by the marrige is the general theme having an an agreement In all its still not as simple as she decided to stay ho…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:13 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Give it to me brief	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:10 PM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. But your statement especially in context strongly implies you think it's should primarily be her responsibilty regardless. You should have said a parent raising their kid is the most natural thing ever if you actually believed gender doesn't matter.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:09 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I never said it is jealousy of the moms. What do you mean then when you said they are jealous they couldn't settle down sooner? And yes, mothers let themselves go but you cannot leave out that some mention a "mom-look" to make another woman feel bad either I am not saying it's a good think to do, only refuting your argument that's its purely because the mom isn't spending lavishly in their looks. My wife also saw it as a bad look to have, like she did something wrong in life because so many othe…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 02:06 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. In that scenario she clearly quit her job to stay at home And he clearly leaves her immediately.. Do you think it's simple as here staying home a week ans she is entitled to spouse support.. That's not how it works.. The point of spouse support is to ensure the financial survival of the spouse whose been non-working for amount of time that would make it very difficult after a divorce to finally care if oneself, and that support isn't permanent and is often withdrawned as soon as the other person…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:57 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. To be fair i just realized you were addressing my scenario not yours about the divorce.. My answer to that is that what you'd call support, assuming she gets it in the first place, often isn't enough for a woman to make a decent living.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:49 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. So if chooses to be stay at home it’s likely she won’t be working at the time of divorce right Dude revice your scenario. You said if she was working and decided she no longer does. You implied or quite literally said the court could force him to support her after divorc when she doesn't qualify as a stay at home. So if chooses to be stay at home it’s likely she won’t be working at the time of divorce right If he chooses to leave her after the fact , she likely won't be staying home at the time …	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:42 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Do you have the habit of putting words in people's mouth?Whether the choice is traditional or modern is completely irrelevant	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:39 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. EDIT: Forgot to quote your post for when you inevitably delete it ???	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:36 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Do you actually know how divorce works? It doesn’t seem like you do. He can leave but it’ll be court ordered that he still support her he won’t have a choice in it at all I don't think that works as simply as you like to think. Morever, I doubt that's even true if the woman was working, Spouce support usually are only applicable in case one partner is non-working and it's not exclusive to men. There’s still men who want stay at home wives but that’s not a majority You'd be surprised how many sti…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:35 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. You literally cherry picked every word that supported your narrative in any way and ignored all the rest. Typical. Since I can't talk very slowly, and you were a dick to me, I'll punctuate the salient points. I literally replied to every single point I do have the choice. Feminist women seem to see ANYONE who SAH to either be a slave or a deadbeat. It's just an attack on the traditional family structure of a two parent one-income household. False She didn't have to sacrifice anything. She CHOSE …	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:27 PM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. What happens if you marry a working woman who then changed her mind and decides she wants to be a stay at home wife, what choice do you as a man have What happen if he changed his mind about supporting you after you've been dependant on him for years , what choices do you have as a woman? To answer your question.. He can still leave. Also as long as we are being told that a real man is a provider there most definitely is a social pressure on us And as men keep looking for submissive and stay at …	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:17 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. It does when you argue it's just jealousy ofthese moms for having been able to settle sooner which implies that the unmarried women's perception of a mom's appearance is just a defense mechanism, but in reality mothers do tend to let themsleves go and they do give out the vibe that it's all over once your are a mother, so the critism or perception is not without warranty for you to assume it's jealousy	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:11 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. A choice can still have bad consequences haven't you heard?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:04 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Your indoctrination is showing, or are you 15? Not only was that not my point, it's not even the point of the article. In fact, it perfectly punctuates the toxicity of feminism What was your point if not that you don't have the choice like women do? I was married for 9 years, my wife chose to stay at home and raise our son. EVERYTHING was easier on BOTH of us. After we divorced I dated a career-minded, strong, independent women for 7 years. We were raising her daughter together. EVERYTHING was h…	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 01:01 PM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Excerpt that's not what's being called a problem, but women going back to traditional roles.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:23 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. but for the things men typically want like sex and respect, the risk is too high for it to be a realistic option It's not a woman's problem you brain run on sex	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:21 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I'll be honest, I'll move mountains and leap tall buildigs for good SAH wife that dutifully takes care of the kids, cooks dinner, cleans etc Try a maid.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:19 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. because a mother raising a baby is the most natural thing there is. Because you had nothing to do with it right?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:17 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. So when they chose to be a slave to a job and sleep around but when they chose to build with a husband and care for a family it's "bad for women Because being dependent on the mercy of your husband and betting your life on how desirable your are to him who would likely cheat on you because he knows you have no fucking life to leave him isn't slavery right? Ya just like to pretend are these perfect specimens that would do no wrong so that a woman shoud just revolve her life around him. Why don't …	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:08 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. If pressure to be a homemaker is off women the pressure to be a provider should come off men as well which it hasn’t and feminists will not let that happen. Exept there is no such pressure because a man can still to not be with any woman he wants...	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:03 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Yeah it whose problem is that? Who is forcing men to want stay at home partners?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:02 AM
0	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. So where is the problem exactly? Who is forcing men to accept stay at home girlfriends? Fucking no one Exept that men generally far like the idea of having a weak submissive partner they can control ...	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 11:00 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. What's ridiculous is that you think being a stay home is only abut cleaning the house...	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 10:57 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. Because mom's typically let themsleves go because they are busy being pregnant and running after little humans. It has nothing ti do with jealousy.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 10:56 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. I personally think having a traditional wife makes a man more powerful in the relationship which is how I like it It's called an insecurity.. Having someone weak is a false sense of power.	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 10:53 AM
1	Article says women are beginning to go back to traditional gender roles. This is portrayed as bad for women but no mention of the men forced to pay for their life. What's stopping from going after a rich woman other than your ego?	/r/MensRights	10/12/22 10:42 AM