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Men: pursue tech jobs Women: pursue teaching Women: "wtf pay gap, how come men earn more than us!!!" Tech Companies: prioritize low skill women over high skill men to "fix the gap" All of this shit is maddening. Feminists get to bitch about the pay gap which is caused entirely by men and women making different choices and having different inherent skills. But not only that, men get discriminated against in these fields with gender quotas, because the assumption is that men are overrepresented du…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:49 PM
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I was in a discord call recently, and this one young woman was just being awful. She was talking about her dating life, and it was the most stereotypical shit you can imagine. She, as a woman, is not exclusive with any of the men she's with. But from the stories she was telling, it was clear that the men she's with don't know this. So my assumption is not that she's outright cheating on them, but that they've never had the exclusivity talk, so she feels free to sleep around, whereas the men have…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:45 PM
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It's really frustrating being pro-choice, while also thinking that it was purely a good thing for SCOTUS to repeal Roe v Wade. I don't agree with pro-lifers, but spending time around pro-choicers makes me want to tear my hair out with all the endless, "SCOTUS is misogynistic and wants to control women's bodies REEEE"
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:40 PM
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"Women don't get literally everything they want, so that means we can discriminate against men and men aren't allowed to be upset about it." I fucking hate our society.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:39 PM
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Apparently because there are more men in tech than women, that means that any individual man trying to find a job in tech should be fucked over by gender discrimination. Because that's equality...somehow. I will never understand how people think that way. Why try to solve sexism with more sexism? Not to mention that men being overrepresented in a field isn't even necessarily sexism. What if, and I know this is crazy, but what if men are more likely to be interested in and skilled in a certain fi…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:38 PM
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If it helps to make it explicit, I think of it like this: Boarding a plane is akin to having sex. Both are actions you take, knowing the risks. A plane might crash. Sex might result in an unwanted pregnancy. A plane beginning to nosedive is akin to an unwanted pregnancy occurring. Neither is disastrous yet, but puts you in the position of needing a solution quickly before disaster comes about. Having a parachute is akin to having an option to avoid the unwanted child, such as abortion, adoption,…
/r/MensRights08/07/22 01:56 PM
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Agreed. And you also don't have to be religious to be pro-life. I'm pro-choice, but I think people are really unfair when they talk about the pro-life stance. You don't need to be religious to believe that personhood begins at conception. And you definitely don't need to be religious to think murder should be illegal. People talking about how restrictions on abortion are proof that we live in a theocracy just sound ridiculous to me. As if every single pro-lifer out there is a religious zealot.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:46 PM
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A man and a woman both board a plane, fully aware of the risk of crashing. During the flight, the plane begins to shake violently, and it becomes clear that its going down. The flight attendant offers a parachute to the woman, yet offers nothing to the man, who is forced to go down with the plane. The woman nods along and thinks this seems like a fair deal. A different man and woman both board another plane, also fully aware of the risk of crashing. This plane also begins to nosedive, except thi…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:32 PM
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Roe v Wade being overturned made a lot of feminist masks slip off big time. They went from "no uterus, no opinion" to "why won't more men speak out about abortion?" in an instant. It's bad enough to argue "no uterus, no opinion" on its own. I think it's shitty to argue that people can only impact policy when it impacts them directly. That's a very short-sighted mindset, and if applied universally, would lead to some real shit. But to then immediately drop that attitude and expect all men to spea…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 10:01 PM
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Yep. Clearly, it's not a purely symmetrical situation, because the woman has to bear the physical burden of the pregnancy, while the man doesn't. But that excuse only goes so far, and I'm tired of people acting like that one factor alone means women should have 100% of the decision-making power when it comes to pregnancy. A woman can abort a man's child whom he desperately wants to meet and raise, and he has absolutely no say. Conversely, a woman can ignore a man's clearly and repeatedly stated …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:57 PM
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Western society would have a collective meltdown if men argued that women should have to endure such-and-such procedure because the men they eventually marry will find it aesthetically appealing.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:39 PM
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Feminists: "Men just want to control women's bodies!!!" Women who make up nearly 50% of pro-lifers: "Are we a fucking joke to you?"
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:24 AM
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There's a relevant moment from the Red Pill documentary which comes to mind. One man was talking about how women consistently say that men need to be quiet and listen to women, because as men, we don't know what it's like to be women, so we need to listen to women talk about their experiences, so that we can understand what it's like to be them, and can better discuss gender issues. And then he went on to say that he agrees, but that the reverse is also true, and that women need to learn to be q…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 06:30 AM
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I can’t dumb it down any further I very seriously doubt that
/r/MensRights25/06/22 06:25 AM
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Maybe I get upset over the over generalization of feminism being anti-equality because I personally don’t feel as though I contribute to that. The problem here is the confusion between "feminists are bad" and "feminism is bad". The former is incorrect, because a large variety of people identify as feminists for a large variety of reasons. The latter is true, because the ideology itself is toxic and harmful. There are plenty of people like you who truly believe in equality, and who don't want to …
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:57 PM
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The double standard of reddit. Men saying "men have problems, and we want them addressed" is misogyny, and such subreddits are perpetually on thin ice when it comes to being banned. Women saying "I hate men" is quality content, and such subreddits will be promoted to default subreddits for all new users to see.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:16 PM
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Yes. Welcome to the blatant double standard. A subreddit exists which discusses how society mistreats men, and how there are many policies/laws/etc which blatantly discriminate against men, and that subreddit will be labeled misognistic. Yet a subreddit exists which discusses how men are terrible and evil and bad, and that subreddit will be made a default subreddit, so that all new users to the site will see posts from it automatically.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 04:08 PM
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Feminists do that a lot. They demand that men sit down, shut up, and listen to women, because as men, we don't know what it's like to be women. And therefore, we have to take a back seat in any discussion which involves women's experiences (such as abortion), because our opinion is "irrelevant". But then they'll turn right around and talk about male privilege all day long, as if they have the first clue what it's like being a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 09:19 PM
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Yep. Women like this are essentially mocking men for their coping mechanism. Men are expected to be providers. If you can't earn enough to provide for a family of 4, you are considered pathetic. So this means there is a lot more pressure on the average man than the average woman to advance his career. The average woman can do so if she wishes, but it's not a requirement, since she won't be expected to provide for an entire family. So men, faced with this unfair situation, decide to take charge. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 09:15 PM
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Tale as old as time. Men need to shut up and listen to women, because as men, they don't understand what it's like to be women. But women are totally allowed to discuss what being a man is like, because that's different somehow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 09:06 PM
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It's really frustrating. The same statistics which show that a black person is 2.5 times as likely to be killed by the police as a white person, also show that a man is 24 times as likely to be killed by the police as a woman. That means that being a man is 10 times as bad as being black when it comes to police interactions. Yet when a black man is killed by the police, people lose their shit about the "black" part, and ignore the much-more-impactful "man" part. There is 10 times as much reason …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/03/22 02:02 PM
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And that isn't a fluke. It's pretty consistent that ways in which black people are disadvantaged compared to white people, men are even more disadvantaged compared to women. Any time someone mentions a statistic for how black people are disadvantaged, go look it up. Odds are that they are correct, but that applying the same statistic by gender reveals an even larger disparity. But they don't want to talk about that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/03/22 03:54 PM
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Such is the way of modern gender discourse. If a woman does something bad, it's an individual who is bad. If a man does something bad, it's because that bad behavior is a "man" thing. Totally not sexist at all, duuuuh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 09:39 PM
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Yep. It drives me nuts when otherwise reasonable and intelligent women will pull that shit. I was recently part of a longer conversation which flowed from topic to topic. At one point, a man was being discussed who had explained something to a woman, which it turns out she already knew. It was not explained that the man was being deliberately condescending. As far as I know having heard the story, he might not have known that the person he was talking to already knew what he was explaining. None…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/22 09:37 PM
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Seeing as you can't see the finish line in this one, someone should make an extended version. For women, the finish line is right after what you can see in this image. For men, the first responsibility isn't until after that, and they are spaced out much more. So the end result is that the man has to run a lot further before he's done with his stuff. Household chores are not that time-consuming. I do quite a bit of them every single day, some before work, some during lunch break, and some right …
/r/MensRights18/03/22 09:26 PM
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These feminist idiots act like they’re still living in the 1950’s, and it’s a crock of shit. Welcome to modern social justice. If people were honest about how our society works in 2022, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. So they constantly play make believe that we live in 1950, and women are subjugated, and black people are oppressed, and so on. The way people talk about these issues is just not in line with modern reality.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 09:00 PM
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Feminists when male-only draft exists: "I sleep" Feminists when female-draft is considered: "NO. STOP. DRAFT IS IMMORAL." Feminists when we're back to male-only draft: "I sleep" Fuck off with your feminist apologia. Feminists don't give a fuck about men. You can claim all day that they think no one should be drafted, but they don't actually do fuck-all about it until women are being considered for it as well.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 12:04 PM
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and gives the impression that women should be proud of being able to do basic things that the male characters can’t Ugh, agreed. I've often thought about how identity politics like this hurts everyone, because men are treated like shit, and women are pandered to like children, being insulted in the process. But I hadn't thought about this specific angle. That women are being taught that they should be proud of themselves for the most basic things. It's really quite scary to think about, consider…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/22 09:49 PM
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Exactly. We can still consider it a problem, but it should be considered a problem of general treatment of employees. Employees aren't being heard. They aren't having their work/ideas respected enough. They feel that it's too hard to be promoted. And so on. In any individual case, it might just be a bad employee blaming anything other than their own work. As a trend, it can be considered a problem. But to consider it misogyny by excluding male victims and assuming 100% of female victims are actu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/22 02:44 PM
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Agreed. The constant double standards are so frustrating. Off-topic, but there's a thread on /r/Games about yet another company in hot water for their treatment of women. And I get that in many cases, this is a legitimate issue. But I feel like it gets drastically exaggerated because of how much society cares about women. Hearing the vague claims, it just comes off like the kinds of shit everyone has to deal with in their career. But when it happens to men, they either suck it up, or they compla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/03/22 12:29 AM
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Yep. My girlfriend always says that the quickest way to make her cry is for her to see a dad crying. Because those tears mean a hell of a lot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/22 11:04 PM
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Yep. That's the reasonable solution for someone who isn't bigoted. Smokers are complaining that they need a break in the day to smoke? Don't just give a break to smokers, introduce a new daily break for all employees. Women are complaining that they need a day off per month due to menstruation? Don't just give a day off to women, introduce a new day off each month for all employees. And so on. You resolve the issue that a portion of your employees are upset about, while still keeping things fair…
/r/MensRights05/03/22 06:15 PM
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And so the solution is to make it so that the next few millennia are as sexist in reverse?
/r/MensRights05/03/22 06:09 PM
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The balls on people to say shit like this without realizing that the reverse is obviously true as well. Especially considering we live in a society where women get an entire month dedicated to them, on top of already being the gender that humanity is designed to prioritize. But yeah, act like it's distinctly a woman thing to have your experiences and issues ignored.
/r/MensRights05/03/22 06:06 PM
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Actions speak louder than words. I don't care how many times feminists proclaim that feminism is about equality. That has not been demonstrably true.
/r/MensRights04/03/22 03:09 PM
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"Men, if you are doing well in an environment which is tailored to women, just act more like women" Huh, I wonder how this would go over if it were reversed?
/r/MensRights02/03/22 05:05 PM
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Yeah, I'm so lucky to have the relationship I have. We both point out hot people to each other all the time. People like looking at hot people, who knew. Either one of us sees a girl with a nice butt or a huge rack? That shit's getting pointed out to the other. Super buff guy walks by? Check that shit out. I would feel so constrained being in a relationship where acknowledging that there are other attractive people out there, and that they are nice to look at, is considered wrong.
/r/MensRights21/02/22 12:38 AM
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AITA is such a joke. They'll bend over backward to be understanding with literally anything a woman says or does, but a man existing makes him the devil by default. It's insane how blatant they are about immediately putting themselves in the woman's shoes but never the man's. It would be like going to a meeting of rabid feminists and trying to tell your story, as a man, about a fight you are having with your girlfriend. Something tells me they are going to side with your girlfriend, just a hunch…
/r/MensRights20/02/22 03:45 AM
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This kind of thing seems to happen constantly, and every time, it's swept under the rug and forgotten about. Blind auditions, blind hirings, blind assessment of work, etc. Very frequently, people who assume the world is misogynistic set out to demonstrate that, and when they end up demonstrating the opposite, they just hit the undo key and pretend it never happened.
/r/MensRights19/02/22 06:21 PM
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You will get no response except for possibly a variation of "should have kept his legs closed".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/22 02:38 PM
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If you have children, you need to provide for your children. There absolutely should be a government aid for people with children Honest question. How do you rationalize these two views. I agree with your first, but disagree with your second, because it's a direct contradiction. I think the responsibility falls on the person making the choice. If a man and a woman choose to have a child, both are responsible for providing for it. If a man makes it clear that he wants no part in a child's life ve…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:50 PM
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Nah, I disagree. They're just self-interested hypocrites. The things they argue will align with left-wing arguments when convenient and with right-wing arguments when convenient. They're just inconsistent, because at any point in time, they will argue anything and everything which benefits them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:46 PM
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Sequence of events: 1) Man and woman have sex, neither one with intent to have a child 2) Pregnancy occurs 3) Man makes it clear from day one that he has no interest in raising a child, nor paying for one 4) Woman hears and understands, and decides to move forward with the pregnancy anyway 5) Child is born with only one parent to provide for it Who would you say is ultimately responsible for the existence of a child with only one parent to provide for it? If you answer the woman, then congratula…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/22 10:44 PM
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I agree that it's used correctly as an adjective, but let's not pretend that they care about that distinction. I've seen "male" be used as a noun many times, with no one bringing it up as sexist, and I've seen "female" be used as an adjective with loads of people screeching about misogyny. One time, I saw both back-to-back on AmITheAsshole, within a day or two of one another. One post was a man describing the makeup of a discord server he uses. Gender was important to the conflict. He described …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/22 03:36 PM
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A woman experiencing privilege and then complaining about how it's discrimination? Well, I never!
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:20 PM
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I wish we didn't live in a society that shamed male virgins
/r/MensRights12/02/22 07:57 PM
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Seriously. These movements are pretty analogous to typical behavior in individuals. If people are being honest and unafraid of causing offense, I think most people would agree that women are much quicker to whine about something which bothers them. A woman is much more likely to come home from work with a rant about a coworker, whereas a man is much more likely to come home in a foul mood because of a coworker, but to keep it to himself. Men are much more likely to refrain from bitching and moan…
/r/MensRights11/02/22 07:37 PM
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[citation needed]
/r/MensRights11/02/22 07:32 PM
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Yeah. That TwoX post is a load of shit, which is par for the course for that subreddit. Female empowerment, as it is consistently implemented in modern, western society, is absolutely about disenfranchising men. The harpies at TwoX can play make believe all they want, but I'm not buying it.
/r/MensRights11/02/22 07:20 PM
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Yeah, I was going to say. I've heard people colloquially refer to it as "bigorexia", and it's apt. I've been dealing with that myself this past year. I've never been much for putting that much work into my body. Typical story of being young and not needing to watch what I eat. And that evolved into aging a bit and getting a bit of a gut. Nothing major, but not ideal. And for some time, I was okay with it. I knew I didn't look ideal, but I wasn't going for ideal, so it didn't cause conflict or fr…
/r/MensRights08/02/22 02:46 PM
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Yep. And how convenient it is that the equivalent in women is not called "toxic femininity", but "internalized misogyny". The female version is a term which leads people to conclude that society hates women so much that women sometimes end up hating themselves. The male version is a term which leads people to associate masculinity with toxicity. This is no accident, and I hate it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/22 04:24 PM
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I am giggling at the implication that while 2 seconds is a PB, it isn't the world record lol. World record is even quicker than that. : P
/r/MensRights07/02/22 02:37 PM
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Not to mention that the 9% can easily be explained by the result of the 91%. When so many men actively seek help and do not receive it, resulting in them committing suicide, many other men witness this and learn the lesson that it's not even worth seeking help. I imagine the amount of men who commit suicide who didn't even consider seeking help is even lower than 9%, because many of them will have had the idea and dismissed it as a pointless endeavor.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 01:33 AM
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Yep. And in typical fashion, the common stance seems to be that the medical field is biased against women, only ever researching men's diseases, only properly testing medicine on men, and so on. It's insane how out-of-touch feminism has caused people to be with reality. It doesn't matter how blatantly misandrist something is; the average person will still view it as misogyny.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 01:31 AM
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Yep. If you account for relative population size, a black person is 2.5 times as likely as a white person to be killed by the police. But if you account for relatively population size, a man is 24 times as likely as a woman to be killed by the police. Ergo, a white man is 10 times as likely to be killed by the police as a black woman. So you are right. When a black man is killed by the police and people want to protest bigotry, there is 10 times as much reason to focus on misandry as there is to…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/02/22 10:33 PM
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Same shit as anniversaries. I pop back over to AmITheAsshole every so often, because I love torturing myself, I guess. And very frequently, there will be some post where the conflict involves the husband not doing a good enough job coming up with anniversary plans, or something of that sort. The comments never, ever, ever bring up the fact that the wife could make the plans for them, instead of just expecting the husband to do it every time. It's just a given that the man has to do all of that, …
/r/MensRights03/02/22 10:00 PM
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Yep. They view the world as zero-sum, and they are selfish. Any attention men get is attention they are not getting. Any equality men gain is privilege they are not keeping. And so on.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:55 PM
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subjugation to make up for my ancestors transgressions Agreed, but this is also not to mention that most of the time feminists bring up past transgressions, they aren't really transgressions at all. People in the past lived under a different system. Men had their strictly enforced roles, and women had theirs. Whether one or the other was "oppressed" is just a matter of opinion. Some will argue that men had power by working jobs (they ignore 99% to focus on the 1% of powerful men, but I digress) …
/r/MensRights03/02/22 09:54 PM
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Agreed. I can understand the mindset of being tired of something happening to you too frequently. But in any single instance, the man in question isn't even necessarily doing anything wrong. It's so frustrating to me that people have absolutely no ability to empathize with a lonely man. A lonely man can go out in public to try to forge a connection with someone, but if he chooses a person who happens to be frustrated with how frequently they are hit on, that suddenly means the man is a villain? …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 06:06 PM
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Tangentially related, but similar vibe... I recall a story over on ShortScaryStories where a man was chatting with a woman at a bar, clearly hitting on her, but unbeknownst to the man (or to the reader), the woman is some kind of human-eating monster in disguise, preying on the man by drawing him in and planning to eat him once they get back to her place. The comments were absolutely filled with people cheering on the monster in the story, simply because it was essentially a woman having the upp…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 06:02 PM
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Right? She blames downvotes on misogyny, but I can say with 100% confidence that if a male feminist came here from MensLib and started spouting all the same bullshit she is saying here, they would be treated a lot more harshly. If anything, her being a woman is earning her a gentler response, and yet she still plays the victim.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 05:54 PM
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Not to mention how blaming downvotes on misogyny completely undercuts her initial point. Saying that most of male advocacy is misogyny means absolutely nothing coming from someone who blames downvotes on misogyny. She's just revealing that anything she doesn't like, she blames on misogyny. That explains why she thinks male advocacy is misogyny.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 05:51 PM
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Yeah. What a pathetic attempt at playing the victim. If a male feminist came in here and claimed that 98% of male advocacy is just kneejerk misogyny, they would be buried in downvotes. But sure, lady, it's just that people hate women, as usual. I wonder if people like this ever get bored of using that excuse. Not to mention that it invalidates her initial comment completely. She claims that 98% of male advocacy is misogyny, and then two seconds later, blames downvotes on misogyny. All that does …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 05:50 PM
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Absolutely. People who say that are people who view genders as opposing teams. To them, any problem women face is the fault of men, and therefore, if someone raises a problem men face, there must be an implication that it's the fault of women. But men and women are not opposing teams. And there is no such implication being made. A man raising an issue men face is not inherently blaming women for that. So the response is just completely missing the point. It's embarrassing how transparent people …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/22 05:33 PM
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Yep. If men perform better than women, it's because women are being held back. If women perform better than men, it's because women are better than men. Totally no female supremacy going on here!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/22 02:29 PM
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Your views of what dating apps are like seem like someone that just reads horror stories about dating apps and has never actually been on one. Your views seem like someone who has no idea what it's like being a man on a dating site.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 06:12 PM
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Yep. One woman accused him of trying to blame women, despite him not mentioning women almost at all. You literally can't advocate for men without being accused of attacking women. And another woman claimed that men losing privilege feels like oppression to men...in response to objective numbers where men are disadvantaged. How fucking stupid do you have to be? "Men only make up 40% of college enrollment." "Yeah, well that's just because you aren't used to equality!!!" The fuck.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/22 09:57 PM
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Yep. When people say "femicide", they might as well say, "men dying doesn't matter".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 05:45 PM
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Agreed. I would wager that the average anti-feminist is more educated about feminism than the average person who calls themselves a feminist. Yes, there are anti-feminists who just hate women and use anti-feminism as a way to bash them. Yes, there are feminists who live and breathe feminism. But there are many, many people who just consider themselves to be feminists by default, because they've been told that if you are for gender equality, you are a feminist, and that if you are not a feminist,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 05:23 PM
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Yep. As much as feminists screech about oppression, if you ask one of them point blank if they would rather go to the grocery store, throw a load into the laundry machine, and cook dinner, or go out into the hot sun to perform back-breaking construction work for 8+ hours straight, you know damn well what they'll say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 05:02 PM
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As usual, feminists pushing for privileges for women, and then turning around and pretending that those privileges are actually oppression. They never take accountability for their own actions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 05:00 PM
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A common trend these days is people believing that the 1950s are perpetual. They believe that for all of human history, women have been barred from working, because the paradigm in the 1950s is that the man worked and the woman kept up with the home and children. And they believe that women are discriminated against today, because women were discriminated against in the 1950s. It's just embarrassing. It's not the 1950s anymore. They refuse to open their eyes and look at what the world looks like…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 05:00 PM
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Yeah, that's one of the most consistently stupid arguments. There are real ways you can explain that women were oppressed in the past (though like you said, men weren't exactly on top of the world, either). But I will never understand why the go-to argument is almost always, "women weren't allowed to work!!!" Who the fuck wants to work?! I know there are some people who legitimately don't know what to do with themselves if they aren't working. But they seem to be quite the minority. I would argu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/22 04:57 PM
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Women: "Men are privileged!!!" Women: get treated like men Women: "This sucks"
/r/MensRights21/01/22 08:26 PM
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Agreed. Fantastic way of putting it. Also, when it comes to objectification in media specifically, I think people really overlook just how often men are objectified in the same manner, because it doesn't align with their confirmation bias. I've been re-watching through the MCU recently, and watching them all relatively back-to-back, it becomes super apparent just how often there are lingering fanservice shots of buff, shirtless men. It's super fucking common. And I don't think it's a problem eit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/22 08:44 PM
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Seriously. As a hero, she's such a boring character. Like you said, she never puts herself into any difficult positions, just orders others to do it for her. But beyond that, basically every bit of power she ever got was handed to her on a silver platter. Her main source of power is her dragons, which were gifted to her. And most of her other sources of power were gained as a result of already having those dragons. She gets mercenaries because one man thinks she is hot. She gets armies because s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/22 05:41 PM
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The fact that people who had not even seen the film were protesting against it being screened also speaks volumes about contemporary feminism. That is some cultish-ass discriminatory behaviour done by people who claim to be pro equal rights. This especially reminds me of the behavior you expect out of extreme religious fundamentalists. The kind who will protest a book or movie without knowing nearly anything about it, just because of the basic premise. "Harry Potter? That's witchcraft. Ban it." …
/r/MensRights04/01/22 03:41 PM
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The problem starts when you have groups like that, and there's like 7 women who know this problem less than they do (hell, in your example, they don't even know them!!!) and yet they act like they have a superior understanding. Yeah, in general, this is super frustrating. I got frustrated by witnessing this kind of thing from a young age. Sometimes with real-life people. Other times, with depictions of people on TV. And so on. It formed me into a person who is very hesitant to weigh in on anyone…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/22 03:22 PM
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Yeah, it is really telling that society's response to men's problems isn't to help solve them, but merely to tell men that it's okay to cry about those problems. Like imagine one day you approach a friend with a problem you are dealing with, and when you are done explaining the problem, rather than attempt to help, or even to console you in your time of need, they just say, "That sucks, dude. Tissue box is over there." Cool, thanks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/22 10:07 PM
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You had a fight with her? She'll tell her side of the story, and her friends will fill in all the blanks to make you look bad. If her friends get too hateful and she stars trying to argue in your favor, her friends will step in to change her mind. The woman is always right, the man is always abusive. See also: AmITheAsshole. That whole subreddit comes off like the groups you are describing here. Depending on the day, I describe browsing AITA as being a fly on the wall at ladies night. But not ju…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/22 10:02 PM
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male locker room talk pure projection Absolutely. I won't make the bold claim that no men behave this way, because there's a hell of a lot of men out there. But I have yet to be a part of a friend group where the guys talk about sex like that. Sex is a private thing, and men tend not to talk about it. The only times sex has come up with male friends is when we are very close friends, and there's some good reason. Such as one of us is having a sex problem on our own end, and we have a vulnerable …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/22 09:56 PM
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Feminists will never admit that they have caused any problems, even when those problems bite them in the ass. Another example of this is the ongoing discussions of transgender activism. It's becoming more and more common for people who agree that transgender activism is insane...to also label it misogyny. Even in spaces which usually call out that kind of ridiculous attitude, people are embracing the idea that transgender activism is evil men oppressing women. It's insane. Feminists fostered the…
/r/MensRights29/12/21 06:03 PM
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Agreed. I hate to paint with too broad a brush, because individual experiences will vary, and exceptions to any rule exist. But it seems that in general, it's much more common for men to be truly alone compared to women. For starters, even when a man and a woman are alone in terms of romantic relationships, women tend to have stronger support structures than men, which isn't surprising, given the women-are-wonderful effect. So if you take the average "lonely man" and "lonely woman", odds are tha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/12/21 09:10 PM
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You can't just say "statistically" like that. The whole point of my argument is that people ignore cases where men are disadvantaged. So even if there were some single statistic you could cite which assigns an objective value to sexism each gender faces (which you can't, that's absurd), the whole problem is that the male value would be lower than it actually should be, because people ignore sexism when it hurts men. Men are underrepresented in higher education, yet despite this, there are contin…
/r/MensRights21/12/21 03:21 PM
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Yep. The most impactful form of sexism is the incorrect assumption that only one gender is the victim of it.
/r/MensRights20/12/21 06:53 PM
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Agreed. I'm sick of this trend of infantilizing adults. People need to grow a spine and start acting like adults. Depression sucks, but it's not an excuse for fucking murder. It's pathetic how quick people are to treat themselves and others as if they are helpless children who can't be held responsible for their actions, because of this or that perceived excuse. We need to be holding ourselves and others to a much, much higher standard than that.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 10:00 PM
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The way I like to explain this issue is that people who make that argument ("it's men doing it to other men") are viewing genders as opposing teams. Imagine you are playing some competitive sport, Team A vs. Team B, and one or more players on Team B are breaking the rules in such a way that it's causing Team A to lose. It makes sense, then, for Team A to call a time out, and to alert the referee to this fact, so that it can be stopped. But alternatively, imagine that you are playing that same sp…
/r/MensRights13/12/21 04:39 PM
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It's just the typical issue of society overcompensating. The perceived issue is that women are treated solely as sex objects. And whether that was ever true or not, let's say hypothetically it was. The solution, then, is not to say that it's evil to ever consider a woman's sex appeal. The solution is to consider her as more than that and that alone. But instead, society went to the opposite extreme, where it's considered evil to ever think a woman is sexy, or look at her with lust, etc. And that…
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:21 PM
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Same here. I'm pro-choice, but I can't fucking stand that argument. It's complete bullshit. Pro-lifers don't want to control women's bodies; they want to protect life. I will still disagree with them about what constitutes life and personhood. But I don't ignore them when they make their points about protecting life, only to invent a bullshit reason like misogyny for them. So sick of that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 06:46 PM
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People like this are addicted to being the underdog. It's the only thing they know how to do. When they don't have institutional power, they rage against the system, fighting the good fight, knowing that they are "morally correct", because they're the underdog, and the underdog is always the good guy, right? But when they do have institutional power.....they still rage against the system, they still act like they are the underdog, and therefore the good guy. But they aren't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/12/21 06:44 PM
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People enjoy seeing abusive assholes get what they deserve. Yep. It's a fictional example, but I've seen a clip from a movie be linked a couple of times recently, and it is really satisfying. Sarah Silverman is playing a character who is repeatedly and obnoxiously verbally harassing two men. During this, she is constantly mentioning how her boyfriend is going to beat the fuck out of these men. She's being the biggest asshole out of all 4 people involved by a wide margin, yet she thinks herself t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 06:48 PM
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Nor do they understand the frustration and hurt that comes with that position. When no one comes to your aid you realize you have to make some tough decisions. Yep. And to go along with this, it's the typical problem of people not considering men to be human beings with feelings and emotions. When a man's behavior is assessed, it's always assessed in a very logical and legal point-of-view. Was he allowed to do that. Was his action absolutely necessary. And so on. But they never stop to think, "W…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/21 06:30 PM
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Ask yourself why you are more off-put by a single woman being called a whore than you are by the statement that all men deserve to die.
/r/MensRights06/12/21 01:29 PM
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You gotta love how privilege begets more privilege. In this tweet, this asshole is using the fact that women are more likely to get custody of their children as a reason why they should not be drafted. It would be one thing if women having custody was a burden placed on them due to their gender, and the corresponding burden men must endure is being drafted. I'm not saying that would be perfectly okay. But at least the argument would make some sense, to say that women are busy dealing with the bu…
/r/MensRights06/12/21 01:28 PM
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Yeah, absolutely. Projection is a massive part of that subreddit, and it seems impossible to ignore. I've frequently described that subreddit as ladies night. But not just ladies night. Ladies night after each woman in attendance has just been dumped by a piece of shit man for the third time in a row, and so the theme of the night is "fuck men". These ladies get together, get trashed, and spend the entire evening venting and being pissed about how men are trash. Browsing AITA is like being a fly…
/r/MensRights04/12/21 03:14 PM
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Yep. Pretty much across the board, when people talk about black people being disadvantaged, they are actually talking about a way in which men are disadvantaged. Consistently, the disparity between black and white is dwarfed by the disparity between male and female. Sure, that means black men get the worst of it. But if white men consistently have it worse in these categories than black women, then is the problem really race? or is it gender? Case in point: After accounting for relative populati…
/r/MensRights01/12/21 04:12 PM
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I can't remember the exact quote, but hopefully one of you does. But it's something to the effect of: "The worst form of sexism is the assumption that only one gender is the victim of it."
/r/MensRights01/12/21 04:06 PM
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However, when you're primarily known for being a voice for men, who are regularly exploited for their money for sexual gain while simultaneously being blamed for objectifying those why have literally made it their exceedingly profitable job to do so.. it isn't a good look. Fantastic point. I'm always so glad to see people raise the issue of OnlyFans exploiting lonely, depressed, and desperately vulnerable men. It doesn't get talked about enough. Any discussion of the modern OnlyFans trend is eit…
/r/MensRights28/11/21 09:11 PM
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Literal abuser logic. "I didn't want to hit you; you made me do it."
/r/MensRights27/11/21 07:01 AM
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I find it a little bit complicated when your success IS solely your kids. So, do you think it's never appropriate to praise a coach for a job well done? If a coach has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to take a team of players and turn them into world champions, do you really think the praise should 100% be on the players, with never a single mention of the coach? Because that's more or less what you are arguing here. This isn't a deadbeat do-nothing parent whose children grew up to be famous…
/r/MensRights21/11/21 06:13 PM
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Right? I agree that it's bullshit that men are expected to be providers. But that doesn't mean that complimenting a man on being an excellent provider is offensive or is reinforcing those expectations. To me, that's like when feminists get pissed off at a woman who genuinely loves wearing make-up, as if by wearing make-up, she's insulting all womankind. Is it a problem for men to be expected to be a provider (regardless of which definition we are going with)? Possibly. But setting that aside, if…
/r/MensRights20/11/21 03:57 PM
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But if they made her a new character, that wouldn't: 1) Get the momentum of the 007 brand cachet 2) Send the message that the time for white men is over and done with, and that this is a new era, where white men have been eradicated
/r/MensRights18/11/21 04:18 PM
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Yep. I saw someone point something out recently which I keep coming back around to. And it was that the people who are using woke ideology to bully people today are the same people who would use bigotry to bully people in the past. They're just bullies, using the most effective tool to bully people. And at the moment, social justice/woke-ism/identity politics/etc. are the most effective tool for bullying people.
/r/MensRights17/11/21 05:51 PM
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Yep, lol, I was gonna say. It was the classic case of: 1) Thing X exists, being bigoted in earnest. 2) Thing Y is created, being bigoted ironically, with the sole intention of displaying how bigoted Thing X is. 3) Thing Y is banned for being bigoted. 4) Thing X remains. It's fucking despicable. At the very least, one should agree that Thing X and Thing Y should both be banned at the same time, for each being bigoted. But if you had to make the argument that one should remain, it should be Thing …
/r/MensRights16/11/21 04:14 PM
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I think this is an important point to make. Even if a story is fake, it can still be worth bringing up, because of the reactions of those who believe it to be true. I feel like with cases like this, people act like once it's proven to be true, anyone who was upset by it is proven to be stupid, gullible, and wrong. But that isn't so. It doesn't matter if the story is true or not. The issue is that many, many people who believed it to be true thought that it was perfectly okay. So the problem isn'…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 06:05 PM
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Yeesh, what a terrible argument. First, a woman does have a choice. Abortion is still legal in many places. And even if we are talking about Texas, a woman can give her baby up for adoption, or drop it off at a safe haven, no questions asked. So no, a woman is not responsible for that "watermelon" for the rest of her life. She has choices. Men, on the other hand, don't have jack shit when it comes to choices. If a man and a woman accidentally create a baby, and the man makes it clear from day on…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 06:02 PM
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What is it about feminism that makes people incapable of understanding the point? I'll break it down for you. One of the big arguments regarding abortion has always been pro-lifers telling pro-choice women that if they don't want to get pregnant, they shouldn't have sex. This is widely considered by pro-choicers to be misogynistic. More recently, more and more men have brought up that they have no reproductive rights, and that if they have sex with a woman and their protection fails, the woman h…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 05:59 PM
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Yep. I've noticed a pretty consistent theme with feminist women. They seem to wish they had been born men, and they are resentful of that. Like you said, it's not that the treatment of women was worse than the treatment of men. It's just that the treatment was different. And I would argue most men and women don't have that much of an issue with this. Men understand the things which are typically expected of them, and so do women. But feminist women specifically seem to be constantly resentful of…
/r/MensRights10/11/21 06:24 PM
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Every time this article has shown up in the past couple of weeks, I've thought the same thing: Women get taste of their own medicine; decide it tastes sour This whole thing is just a ridiculous example of the grass not always being greener on the other side. Feminism pushes more and more for advantages for women. And now many women find themselves in the position that men have stereotypically been in for a long time. And shocker, it's not perfect. There are downsides. Feminists refuse to listen …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 06:02 PM
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I am always reminded of something which was said in the Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye. One of the MRAs she spoke to pointed out that men are expected to be quiet and listen to women talk about their issues, because as men, we can't understand what it's like to be a woman, so we need to listen in order to understand it. But then he went on to say that the same should be true in reverse. That women should be quiet and listen to men talk about their issues, because as women, they can't unders…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 05:55 PM
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Yeah. End of thread. Feminism doesn't help men, because it doesn't aim to help men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/21 05:52 PM
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The main difference is their attitude to trans men vs trans women. TumblrInAction is a great example of this. What used to be an enjoyable subreddit has been overtaken for a while now by hateful feminists, one of the topics the subreddit used to ridicule for their hatred. And so instead of transgender activism being just one of many topics that subreddit would talk about, it's become pretty-much nothing but that, all day, every day. It's all the feminists want to talk about. And to browse that s…
/r/MensRights07/11/21 02:34 PM
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This is it precisely. I mentioned in another comment that I am a big reflective listener. I won't go into as much detail here, but the gist is that reflective listening involves processing something you are told, and then repeating it back in your own words, in order to verify that you have correctly understood what you were told, rather than simply saying, "got it", when you actually might have misunderstood what was told to you. That's a huge part of how I communicate, meaning that a lot of th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 08:12 PM
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There's also the issue that some people tend to practice reflective listening, myself included. For those unaware, reflective listening is when a person will repeat something they have been taught, in their own words, in order to verify that they have correctly understood what they have been taught. So Person A will explain something to Person B. But if Person B just says, "got it", it's possible they actually misunderstood what Person A had communicated, while thinking they had understood it co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. You say that you don't believe any gender is more rational than another, and I would agree as well. But that doesn't mean men and women can't end up being different, even if they are not inherently different. The way society treats men vs. women can shape them into different beings. Men learn from a young age that if they act irrationally, it won't go well for them. People will dismiss them right out of hand if they behave that way. They'll lose their friend…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 07:59 PM
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Yep. There's a fantastic write-up I read recently which breaks down the steps of indoctrination into a cult, and relates them to wokeness as a whole. It's a great read, and very spot-on. I'll edit this comment to add it if I can find it reasonably quickly. EDIT: Found it very easily. https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/cult-dynamics-wokeness/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/21 07:50 PM
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Women make up 60% of college enrollment, compared to men's 40%; this is obviously a problem for women, because it makes it harder to date. /s We live in a world where that is unironically being argued by people. It's insane. Men could be the most oppressed demographic on earth, and people still wouldn't see it, because of how badly feminism has brainwashed society.
/r/MensRights05/11/21 01:19 PM
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This is like saying: there is a poor family that has a child that they can't pay for their needs. We have two choices, either let the child suffer, or make their rich neighbor pay for the child. It is clear here that this is a ridiculous proposition, because it is not the responsibility of the neighbor, even though this will be in the best interest of the child. Thank you. I'm so tired of bad-faith arguments like that. People pull the "but think of the children!!!" argument. But you know damn we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 02:06 AM
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Right? In the minds of a feminist, when a man says "I don't want the burden of a child", and a woman follows that up with "I'm giving birth to it and raising it anyway", the man is the one who has made the decision which resulted in a single-parent child. If I told my roommates I wanted some new curtains for the house, and they all said they can't afford them, and I went and bought some expensive curtains anyway...no one in the right mind would consider my roommates to be on the hook financially…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:34 AM
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They'll also turn right around and use the same pro-life arguments they call misogynistic when used with reference to abortion. I've seen more "if men don't want to pay for a child, they should keep it in their pants" arguments than I care to count. And not in contexts where they are pushing a "see how shitty that is?" kind of angle. Nope. Just people who are genuinely arguing that, despite being fervently pro-choice and considering "keep your legs closed" to be misogyny. Plain hypocrisy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/21 01:10 AM
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Agreed completely. Take a look over at TumblrInAction. The general consensus there used to be a lot more of "I'll respect a transgender person's identity if they are a respectful person, but my personal feelings are that a person can't change their gender, and I take issue with the extreme ways many people in the realm of transgender activism go about their business". But once a bunch of feminists got in there, the subreddit has been non-stop transgender posts, and the comments of each is nothin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/21 02:07 AM
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