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They can also spam link studies where young psychology majors are supposed to guess which photos they'd sleep with. And they'll aggressively ignore any study that talks about what happens beyond a first impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 11:19 PM
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Okay, but that's not really opposing his point. It's just saying you'd cheat if the short chubby girl of your dreams offered. Also, does that user name mean you've never been in a relationship? Because you won't know who you are until you're in one, and you have this kind of experience. For example, me? I really don't like anyone who'd go behind my partner's back and make that kind of offer in the first place. They've stopped existing, as far as I'm concerned. But I know other people who said th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:20 PM
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Multiple categories of exceptions add-up. Ignoring everyone loyal to a single partner is like insisting everyone should be straight. It makes no sense, and just serves someone else's personal agenda. The human race has more than one set of instincts between us. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:08 PM
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Extroversion at least a 3, or wild swings between high and low depending on how well they know you. Neurosis doesn't bother me - lots of good people faced a long struggle to get there. The issue is when people confuse love for a miracle cure for their unexamined mental health issues. Or turn every single conversation into a free therapy session. There's a world of difference between supporting someone through hard times and simply being used. Orderliness - anyone who hits the top tier of this? A…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 10:01 PM
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Since there's asexual men, and low libido men, and demi-sexuals on top of that? Not to mention, since even polygamous men in open relationships often have a preference for one partner over all others? And there's been powerful men who don't pull a John F. Kennedy or a Bill Clinton, much less a Donald Trump? I'm not sure what you gain out of trying to dumb everything down to a bumper sticker. Is this about you cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 09:36 PM
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The claim is that civilization has a safety net with men that defend it because they do have wives and expectancies to have sex, but if they didn't, men would have no reason to sustain civilization or their families or anything at all. The people making this threat have black holes for personalities, and that's why nobody will fuck them. Their failure to reproduce, is why civilization is still standing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:09 AM
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I've got ADHD too, so I can relate to that struggle. Plus a few other other struggles, that almost aren't relevant here and I'd rather not be graded on a curve because of them. I only mention it, because I was almost a writer. And every "almost" hopefully forgives the many sins I'll commit against the English language. Most people wouldn't notice... It's only to save time. I probably shouldn't rush in, but... It's rare I meet anyone worth debating? Or even capable of a debate, for that matter. A…
/r/MensRights23/08/22 04:34 PM
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Reality complicates everything. You seem far above most people's intelligence - everyone should be listening when you talk about writing fiction, for example. As long as politics doesn't cloud your judgement. And you're aware that Vietnam has a history beyond America's cruelty. The last North American I met who knew that was a nuclear engineer. So how are you constantly getting things wrong or oversimplifying them? I really have no idea what to make of you. Anyways, this is far into your comment…
/r/MensRights23/08/22 01:56 PM
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I don't know, the Domme who taught me how be an empathic sadist went pretty in-depth about how to handle things. Flirting/soft limits vs. hard limits/power exchange/after care/etc. And I had a lot of stupid questions to get out of my system. But all that just came up organically during our friendship/eventual relationship. Maybe the secret's just that you don't need to force things? Women want you to "just get it" You can certainly screw yourself over by overanalyzing things. But that's also a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:39 PM
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Do they ever grow out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:03 PM
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Nah, make use of all your senses. Sometimes how people say things is as important as the words themselves. But you're right about there being no substitute for actual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:02 PM
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Doesn't it bother you that it lines perfectly with the age when human starts showing aging effects? Not really, because I'm not an Ephebophile. Neuroscience isn't going to change just because you're grossed out by a 30 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:26 AM
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You think teenagers get approval from their parents for.... Wow. Were you ever a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:23 AM
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K. You know the brain doesn't finish maturing until around that age? Doesn't bother you that it lines up perfectly? Oh they do, when men say that they don't like women with higher n count. It helps if you ask women who actually date women, instead of asking advice from women who giving you great advice if you want to be chosen by a guy. Show one that says anything except sHe ChAnGeD I ChAnGeD. You're doing a terrible job of convincing me I should be repeating all the mistakes I made in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:58 AM
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I said that first. Still waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 06:05 AM
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So you're never going to make a real case for why you can ignore all that? Good to know. Keep screaming "States rights can crush your puny human rights!" at the voices in your head. Big brother would be proud.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:55 AM
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Why should anyone else repeat what you already ignored way, way, up in the thread already? Do you know how boring it is to read this entire thing, and find you still pulling the same bullshit at the end? If your memory is really this bad, just stop playing lawyer now, before you do some real damage to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:34 AM
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We chase the sex. Speak for yourself. Some of us got over the novelty, and commitment has more value.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:41 AM
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It's the usual way of things here. Not all men/yes all women. No need to acknowledge all the men who refuse to take women's violence seriously, or even acknowledge that there's a lot of women backing Depp, if you can dumb down this issue to evil witches. It's not actually helping those of us who were abused by women, but it sure must feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:38 AM
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Nah, you simply decided you didn't like the 14th amendment, so you wiped your ass with it. That's not actually a legal argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:33 AM
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if Wow, it's true what they say; Those who represent themselves really do have a fool for a client. You still haven't made a single coherent argument. You just declare victory, ignore all the counterevidence, and expect everyone to kiss your ass. That's not how anything works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:22 AM
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I can see why you had to represent yourself so often. I wouldn't want to represent your arguments either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:53 PM
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A healthy sex life is whatever you are happy with that isn’t causing you emotional distress. That bit's healthy. And realizing what you are, is the first step to becoming something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:26 PM
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You're saying the best time to get into alternative lifestyles BDSM was is in high school? Have you ever actually talked to a high school student? Because you should be worried if they seem really mature to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:17 PM
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Human instincts also have a bias towards familiar faces, natural storytellers, and their favorite types of voices. What's your point? Edit: Also, he should have just shaved his head.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:08 PM
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Amber: I f**king was hitting you. I don't know what the motion of my actual hand was, but you're fine. I did not hurt you. I did not punch you. I was hitting you." My ex was just kicking me. Because I snored. But it was just play. And if it hurt, didn't I have it coming? My ex raped me. Because I said no. Because I struggled. But it was just giving me a rape fantasy, and it wouldn't be rape if I wanted it. And besides, she was only pretending to be drunk, so what was the problem? If I really did…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:19 AM
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She abused her ex, too. Her ex - doesn't her side of the story matter to you? Or all the other people who testified for Johnny, and against Amber? Or the recording of her laughing at the abuse she was dishing out? Your father was a piece of shit. But in this case, Amber was playing the role of your father.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:55 AM
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Wym monster aesthetic? I mean what worked for me was just going full Satanic panic visual, because I was pretty much already convinced I was hideous. This was my way to flip that off. Anyways, tl,dr: Executive suits and corpse paint. Plus never blinking or even moving except when I had to, because I might as well turn social awkwardness into a superpower. Instead of this obvious self-destruction scaring off everyone like it was supposed to do, my introverted idiot self got popular through people…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:00 AM
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D. No clue. I don't know either of these people, and either they're still in the honeymoon phase, or just beginning to end it. I can write all kinds of stories about them, but none of it tells me whether they're ready for a long term relationship with each other. How experienced are these two, healthy relationship wise? How long were their longest relationships, previously? What were the mistakes they made? What do they wish they'd done instead? What were the things they did right? What are they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:29 AM
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I'd help you, but I don't talk to strangers unless they talk to me first. And I doubt you're going to lean into the "I'm a monster" aesthetic. Few people posting here want to stand out in a crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:05 AM
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Surprisingly, all the overthinking it towards the end, didn't completely kill my results. Neither did all the avoiding people after an ugly break-up. Still, my worst performance ever is better than 74 percent of the people taking the test. Our species is doomed. Your score is 29 out of 36.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:03 AM
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How do they look away? Do they stare again when you stop looking? Can you get a good game of eyeball tag going?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:43 AM
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tl,dr: Abuse Ritalin and anabolic steroids responsibly, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:36 AM
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Because you wanted to hear their shallow first instinct so you could go karma farming? Good job eliminating all other variables. You don't want anything like good chemistry fucking this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:54 PM
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Not to mention, most people have something they're pretty confident about. And they can look pretty good while showing it off. It's how a lot of people met each other, despite being shy elsewhere. Anyone who is expecting rejection non-stop in everything they do, needs professional help, not a sex partner. That kind of insecurity can't be simply fucked away. If anything, it just gets worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:07 PM
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Allow me to translate the manosphere POV: They see this as revenge for women dating "abusive alpha males" on the "cock carousel" and witholding sex from "nice guy beta bucks" who provide for her when she hits "The Wall". They swear this describes all women, because it generally describes the relationships of the terrible people they admire. According to them, outlawing abortion will bring back the good old days when more wives murdered their husbands when women were chaste until marrying a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:40 PM
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I'm not attracted to anyone until we've at least had a few good conversations. Especially in scenario. I'm not worried about the muscle. I'm worried about how she uses it. Because if she's single to the point where she's just taking her chances with half the people posting here? Despite the great aesthetic she's got going for her? And a community that would probably share her interests? And at least a local level of celebrity? There's a lot of warning flags. What's wrong with her current social …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 12:19 AM
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Props to you for admitting you need me to explain the joke? Which part of my post did you think was sincerely defending the blackpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 09:32 AM
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It's really telling that my snark is indistinguishable from the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 07:28 AM
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Depends. I got some ugly break-ups, and some really weird double takes in this subreddit. But some people were very patient, and understanding. (And they were the ones I don't regret giving my consent.) It really varies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 02:12 AM
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Okay. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt. You haven't reverted to grade school - points in your favor. Few people even aim for an actual conversation in these parts. Much less have any fun with it. But. I don't want to make the redpill blue. I don't even know what that means, beyond the Matrix metaphor. And a lot of blue balls, apparently. And...are you claiming that the redpill isn't political? Or that it doesn't have taboos? There's many types of political correctness. But if we're still tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:18 AM
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Average means that if one man has 100 partners and one man has 0, then the average for both is 50. So the claim now, is that there might be a few superhot uglies who ruined the average somehow. I'm going to guess the final spin on this, will be that those men are totally Sigma and probably stand 7 feet tall and are Navy Seal rock stars. And have cool scars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:34 AM
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Do you want me to go quoting the guys actively saying they'd take anyone? Because it's a pretty even match between the two sides, if I look over the entire history of the site. This "I'm too good for them!" is pretty recent spin for many. Anyways, the blackpill is still nonsense. I've seen photos of incels, and a lot of them aren't ugly. If I have to pretend ER looks unfuckable, and that was his only problem? Then it's just digital toilet paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:28 AM
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You're the one arguing AGAINST the red pill. Rewind. Remember that part where this began with another poster's criticism of AWALT? And to defend it, stereotyping men happened? You guys never get past that sort of thing. It's the beginning and the end of the redpill. You rely on reductionist heuristics, dismiss anything and anyone that complicates your model, and then insist that anyone who can't use your model doesn't understand it. Because it works for the redpill, and helps make sense of the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 12:14 AM
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17 sounds like the socially acceptable answer. Yeah, young teenage boys are known for being ashamed of all the sex they're totally having.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 09:02 PM
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https://incels.is/threads/what-really-angers-me-isnt-being-sub-chad-but-that-even-girls-beneath-me-arent-interested-are-not-attracted-to-me-practically-ever.337845/ I've waded through their endless arguments over the invading volcel hordes vs truecel OGs, and the claims that they'd reject anyone overweight or too manly or not submissive enough or a single mother would sound way more convincing without angry threads like that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:58 PM
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I saw incels whining that you had to be Chad to get a "low tier woman". Obviously, they'd managed to get themselves rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:00 PM
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The dates were often the best part. But then, I only dated my friends. Also, who says men have to always make the first move? Learn how to read a room.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:58 PM
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76% of ugly men failed to be incel. And not only that, but many had multiple partners. So the blackpill's claim that looks alone decide your fate? It's just something said by people who have no idea what they're talking about, and it was used to avoid dealing with the many mental health issues/serious personality flaws/missing social skills that everyone observed almost immediately in any of the banned incel subreddits. Which everyone knew already, but now there's no excuse at all to treat it li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:48 PM
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In the study “Handsome Wants as Handsome Does: Physical Attractiveness and Gender Differences in Revealed Sexual Preferences” , they found that ugly men are much less likely to have sexual experience whereas ugly women were only a little less likely. Nonetheless, 76% of ugly men and 81% of ugly women reported sexual experience. Of all those who are sexually experienced, ugly women had on average, 6.03 partners compared to 5.69 partners, 5.59 partners and 5.14 partners for average, attractive and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:04 PM
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Could have fooled me, since you all prett Your social media feed isn't the sum of feminist thought. Try again. And again, implying I'm 'right win I said you're an enabler. And you turn a blind eye to what anti-feminism has done to hurt men. But then, that's your favorite double standard. I can admit the flaws of the worst feminists. And I can admit, when feminism has failed, and then adapted to grow beyond that. And you? You keep insisting that every feminist just hates men. You might as well ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:50 PM
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The women I've seen doing it, are never violent in public. They at least have the sense to pick and choose their targets and opportunities carefully...not that it's a virtue. I only know my abusers, and the abusers of friends and family. With the men....I mean, even the students knew our teacher was being abused by her husband. And I've called the cops on a few situations, for all the good that did, because it's pretty easy to know what's going on across the street when it's louder than your tv?…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:44 PM
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No idea how. Everyone I've ever been in a serious relationship with, we either met somewhere kink related or they were just really into the novelty and power dynamic of seducing someone afraid of sex, for a change. I can't even flirt with someone who isn't already chasing me. Whatever the redpill calls "a beta blue relationship", it's not exactly everyone's natural instinct? And if I ask for advice, it's all going to be very sarcastic, and very bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:18 PM
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No, I dismissed it like most of your ranting and raving since you have no evidence to back i I quoted and named two sources, and linked to one. Not my fault you're not able to separate your emotions from this issue. Yes, a law made by femi By some feminists. They're not a hive mind. And it was eagerly ratified and enforced by many tradcons before the abuses ended. The right controls more positions of power than the redfems. But you're still desperately blind to all that, of course. Given the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:11 PM
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I've seen both men and women get away with all of those. Not a single arrest. And I doubt any of it made it to the national statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:57 PM
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Pretty sure there are asexual cuddlers who aren't shy about kissing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:52 PM
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I'm sticking to the debate, Good one! We were talking about why people hate the redpill, before you decided to change the subject to your favorite obsession. If all of Feminism behaved the way so much of the redpill does, it wouldn't be anywhere near as popular. , I just argued that it was less likely And I showed you why, since women's abuse often doesn't leave marks. You didn't like that point, so you ranted about feminism some more. And tried to change the subject by referencing a law that ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:51 PM
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I don't think friends generally cuddle up every night, kiss on the lips, fall in love, etc. At the very least, my friends would be very disturbed if I did. Don't get me wrong - I wouldn't refuse intimacy if I knew I could trust someone to stay after she's exhausted every mystery. Or if I knew I could simply not be in the mood, sometimes. But I've never had that. Not for very long. And whenever I found it, life threw other problems at us, and we couldn't afford to make the long distance work. I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:41 PM
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I'm upset that we can't talk about the points Call me when they actually engage with our points, instead of repeating their favorite scripture over and over again. And oooo I made a claim. And generalized it. And we did that too. Only our claim was about what we observe from the majority of the redpill. And you haven't been able to handle it. Sorry we're not politically correct? This isn't a safe space.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:23 PM
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He admits to being selfish and doing whatever it takes to win, no matter the consequences. Don't be so sensitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:18 PM
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I'm glad you've come to see the error in your ways. I'm glad you've been shouting at the voices in your head, instead of asking a single question about my beliefs. Don't give all the credit to men, the Duluth Model had a pretty big impact on that. And yet, women keep being arrested, and have been for decades. Even in the early 2000's, they were 1 in 5 to 1 in 3 arrests. And that number's only risen since. Which is odd, since you guys keep insisting that the law demands the man be arrested, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 05:14 PM
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He objected to OP's definition of the redpill and brought up his experiences and experiences of many men on that sub. That's one of the many things he did, while he was jerking himself off and talking grade school trash. Now go pick your wife from her boyfriend, heard she wa No wonder why you thought that was a quality response. How old are you, kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:22 PM
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Data. Men kill more women in intimate partner violence. And in the statistics kept by Domestic Violence Research - When severe aggression has been perpetrated (e.g., punching, kicking, using a weapon), rates of injury are much higher among female victims than male victims, and those injuries are more likely to be life-threatening and require a visit to an emergency room or hospital. However, when mild-to-moderate aggression is perpetrated (e.g., shoving, pushing, slapping), men and women tend to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:16 PM
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I. Other TRP posters have embraced the term asshole. If you want to pretend it's as bad as "abuse victims totally deserved it, because they just wanted to fuck a bad boy sociopath."? Which has been posted on this board, plenty of times? That tells me terrible things about you. II. You're claiming that women's behavior is a great big mystery. Since when? To who? III. You're also making some sweeping claims about attraction. Yeah, there's men attracted to novelty and youth. And some men have to st…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 03:01 PM
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All of them. Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ahh DV Where men are more likely to put women in hospitals, which is easier to prove in court. And are you pretending there's a conspiracy to keep women from being arrested for domestic violence? Do you really want to commit to that argument? Because we both know the truth. See how easy it is, when they leave evidence? And that's in liberal cuck California. Face it: You have memes. Your idea of helping those of us attacked by …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:38 PM
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What are you talking about? Some women cheat too. Your issue is that you've convinced yourselves that you've discovered some great big secret, that some women are assholes. You've also convinced yourselves that all women share these instincts, and that you can write off any higher order decision making, because it's complicated and doesn't make a great bumper sticker for Reddit karma whoring. If you guys just admitted you've been burned, and you feel like being assholes, and finding other asshol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:16 PM
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A lot of guys in this sub are Redpill, Read the description. I don't see a lot of RP insulting women here, matter of fact Id argue most arguments here are started and fuelled by women. Yeah, bullshit. I got chewed out by the mods for laughing at a specific redpill claim that didn't apply to my life, but the same mod who was riding my ass told me the redpill were allowed to post that women were bitches who deserved their abuse, and that was considered a civil comment. You think the majority of fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:09 PM
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Which branch? You guys have no clue what feminism is, other than randomly throwing tumblr shitposts in with tradcon approaches to domestic violence and rape. Whatever men are dealing with? It's feminism, exactly the same way Christians fight the forces of Satan. And for obvious reasons. If you ignore all the right does to hurt men, it makes it easier to be an obedient little anti-feminist at the ballot box.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:03 PM
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His argument was a self-pity circlejerk. It's already against the rules, so if you have quality concerns, try to be a little more objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:59 PM
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Wrong question. These folks are frequently assuring us that that we're all either unwanted beta cucks or Chad-abuse starved sluts, or liars. So we already know their perspective is warped. We know they're just offering their perspective and experiences with the world, because most of them are incapable of learning anything from anyone or anything else. Ask them to do better, and then we can meet half-way. It's not beyond their reach - the more confident and more self-assured members clear that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 01:55 PM
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Real MGTOW's don't give a fuck about women. Every MGTOW I've seen on the internet won't shut up about them. How do they exploit exactly? How does the Klan exploit real life tragedy? The playbook of hate groups never changes. They all define the worst members of the group as representing the whole of the group, or at least the majority. And they make that part of the tribe's identity. It's a key part of what makes you belong. Then they wrap it all up in cherry-picked statistics, minus context, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:50 AM
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And are under represented when it comes to anything dealing with human psychology directly or demonstrating empathy. (They much prefer theory crafting, offering pills, and stunt experiments.) Many men also struggle to find strong social networks. It turns out that social/empathic intelligence and "can build a cpu" intelligence aren't the same thing. In fact, they're mutually incompatible. It's why TRP prefers the company of shallow women, even if it means getting stabbed in the back. It allows y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:30 AM
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See my edit. There was nothing normal about my growing up. What makes you think my upbringing was anything close to normal? But if your brain isn't damaged, you're going to reassess your life as you age. And you're going to take the wisdom of everyone around you. That's why the redpill is dangerous. It uses the first stages of maturity and mentorship to hide the hate that really fuels the movement. Just like a lot of the alt-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:20 AM
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Yeah. And other redpillers said other things. But yeah, getting laid isn't that hard. It hasn't been, since before you were born. It was just hard for you. And now that you've figured out how some of the world works, and it's no longer such a challenge? You need to claim the world changed instead. Because otherwise, the redpill is exposed as just being the slow class finally figuring out how to pass the entrance exams. And still obsessing over cooties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:12 AM
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That's because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 11:05 AM
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And that's why TRP is always crying about how men have to spend money on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:58 AM
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we will still welcome you when you go through the heartbreak of finding out that your girlfriend, fiance or wife, has had a train of football players go through her, while you were slaving away at your job. This is why letting South Park be your sex ed was a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:54 AM
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Because their conflict narrative depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:52 AM
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I had learned to filter everything people say about themselves, and form my opinion based on their actions not their words And I had applied it to myself. Took a good look at my actions in the past, found out some good and some bad sides of my personality. Corrected some of those. Me too. That's different from anyone else who has ever taken stock of their life, how? It's a normal part of growing past your early twenties. It's really not the self-improvement anyone takes issue with. Or even the h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:50 AM
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TRP doesn't hate women Sure. Kind of like how the Klan celebrates "bio-diversity" by claiming melanin works exactly like a Spider-Man symbiote. If you hate women then why go through so much trouble to date them? They have dicks and they have emotional needs. Besides, MGTOW and the incels are the exact same thing, minus the sex. Even if they do, who cares? Anyone who hates seeing hate groups exploit the real pain men and women are going through. Many of them are too young to know any better. Besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:41 AM
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Meanwhile, everyone who's ever met a woman with a decent personality and a functional adult brain knows most of you are just stupid horny and really desperate for whatever scraps you can get. "Is she hot? Great! My hate boner is telling me that every other woman is just as bad as she is! Let's do this~!" The rest is rationalizing the regrets. They're nowhere near in control of it all. They just finally figured out how to read the traffic signals in the lane they were given.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:27 AM
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Why would anyone hate a philosophy that hates them? No idea. But the bit where you guys keep pretending that whatever you can't have, doesn't exist for anyone else, either? It's one of the great running jokes of the internet. You sound - to everyone else - the way incels sound to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 10:03 AM
2

Bullshit. I never hide my feelings, and it never held me back. Maybe some personalities are just more attractive than others? Or maybe you need to date someone who isn't a shallow sociopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 07:09 AM
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Specifically when asked for relationship advice, at most encourage her to think about what she wants in a relationship. Don’t explicitly trash talk bf... Wait. What? Why not? Don't friends give each other their honest thoughts? If he's behaving like a piece of shit, say he's behaving like a piece of shit. If he's worth any relationship at all, then you've probably had some good things to say about his positive traits... So you're still as neutral as that kind of honor demands. Otherwise, you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 06:37 AM
1

But femdom can be cis/het too. Even if the redpill only ever indulges in the cuckold/findom splinters. Still, fair enough, the wiser ones are willing to draw limits on the redpill's influence. It's that who can't, who fascinate me. I wonder if they come from religious backgrounds? Perhaps the redpill is filling a void where scripture and hymn used to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 04:51 AM
1

But to me, a man raising another mans kids if he could have his own is weak. Just my viewpoint. Why? Your genetic line isn't immortality. For all you know, your blood-related kid will hate you, or ignore you, and you'll be just as irrelevant to history. Meanwhile, a good adoptive father who sends someone good and strong out into the world? They have influence that lasts long after their death. So your carefully limited definition of strength? It's bullshit. It's just a rebranding of your own emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:44 AM
2

Those who can do it well are in the minority, anyways. It's not hard to find guys who are creepy as hell while suddenly reassuring everyone that they're nice guys to the nobody who asked. Also, you skipped all the parts of No More Mr. Nice Guy, where they talk about nice guys being filled with rage, deceptive, and controlling. Genuine and good aren't the first words that come to mind. If you count on them being good, expect an explosion later, when you find out they've been actively concealing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:25 AM
5

Eh. People fixed me, so I like to pass the good deed forward. So long as I'm representing myself honestly, realistic about the challenges involved, and I'm far from repressing myself or letting someone drown me in their sorrows, then what's the problem? Everyone has their vices. This is mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 02:08 AM
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I'm demi. I'm only sexually attracted if there's a connection. But it's apparently very easy to fake those connections, if you're motivated. I'd prefer to be able to trust one actually exists, even without the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:52 PM
12

Companionship. Conversation. Shared jokes nobody else gets without worrying about the two of you. Ridiculous games you make up on the fly. A collaborator - it's just fun to fly with someone else's muse. You never know where they'll take you. Just a cuddle, without pressure to make something more out of it. I'd kill for a relationship where sex wasn't something I ever had to worry about. It's been magical with the right people...but there were a lot of people in-between.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:33 PM
1

She was someone in my past. She was respectable. I was a foster kid. My point was that the predator wasn't the ones helping me recover with the rape play. And you can't judge people by shallow standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:26 PM
1

I checked their subreddit. There was a brief rant about how rapeplay only attracted rapists. Fuck FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:13 PM
1

Yeah, except a lot of monsters know better than to pull this bullshit on complete strangers. You're just looking for excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 11:08 PM
1

Fair enough. Still, my point that abusive partners don't always reveal their dark triad traits at first, still remains. It's just your way of blaming the victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:52 PM
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Yeah, why are all the men in these stories desperately looking for any hint of societal acceptance (to the point of meeting a woman, even!), while lovingly describing the dreamy looking man OTHER PEOPLE totally can't resist? Whom he instantly loses to, because his vague 20th century Disney fantasies with whatshername are no match FOR THE RAW MASCULINE SEXUALITY OF THE INCUBUS! I mean, I'm not going to speculate or kink shame, but this isn't how anyone's life works that I've ever met. Or even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:46 PM
1

Not sure how you got that out of my statement. But one of my kindest, most awesome partners was the cockiest, by far. (and deservedly so.) My point was simply that predators aren't idiots. Whatever you're into, there's someone willing to be that. At least at first. If you're at all experienced, you learn how to filter for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:32 PM
1

Uh-huh. Meanwhile, I've known abusive partners who weaponize surprise gift giving and being there when nobody else is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:27 PM
2

How are we getting these numbers, when men and women both lie to match gender expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:24 PM
1

FDS is just the redpill for women. Equally selfish and paranoid, last I checked. Let me check again - yup. I just learned that everyone I know who ever pretend raped me is probably a rapist in real life. Unlike the pedophile, who was a good, upstanding, high value member of the community. Or at least that's how it'd work if they were all men instead of women. Good to know! Anyways, they're not a debate subreddit, so what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 10:14 PM
3

I haven't seen any lately. And even when I did, they were basically just there for the symbolism. They'd pride themselves on their ability to accept other points of view, and then insist that others had to endure passive-aggressive abuse while taking the high road in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:29 PM
3

How are we defining chivalry? I treat everyone near my orbit about the same - the way I'd want to be treated. But apparently, that's better than many have ever experienced before. It's a bit awkward when they feel like they need to punish or reward me for it, you know? Anyways, the way I often see chivalry spoken about, it's the kind where a guy treats someone he barely knows like she was born yesterday and any men she knows like they're dirt or invisible. Some women go for it, I'm told, but at …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 09:19 PM
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Unfortunately, you can't always tell which ones are dumb enough to believe it, and which ones manipulative enough to pretend they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:49 PM
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I've pretty much given up using my pronouns. It's exhausting to stop the conversation and walk them through their assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:27 PM
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Too bad you guys HATE any studies indicating that women have a lot of variance within their groups, and that this variation is much wider than the things you can simply label "man" and "woman", without overlap. But then, your heuristics are basically a comfort blanket, rather than a long term predictive science. It's why the redpill is terrified of commitment, overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:17 PM
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There's only so many times you can repeat the same old jokes, dissect the same old lies, and observe the same old outrages before you just shrug your shoulders and move on with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:10 PM
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They should hold out for a month or two at least. My partners have bought me dinners. I wasn't even aware this was an issue - we go back and forth. Hell, they've even bought me dinner after they've slept with me... ...how does the bar keep getting lowered for what constitutes a humble brag around these parts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 08:05 PM
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Yeah, fuck them with a rusty chainsaw. In Reddit's debate subreddits, I've been told my rape was a joke, and that the women helping me deal with my fear of intimacy were disgusting. The reason why people do this, is pretty obvious - they think they win if they hurt you, even a little. So it's the tool their desperate little fingers go to, when you're completely kicking their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:52 PM
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It's the purpose behind every debate the far right subreddit I've found. They're all terrified of an even playing field.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:35 PM
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I'm familiar with ADD. I wasn't doing very well until I sorted all that out. My point is that you're assuming virgins won't cheat - which isn't how anything works, and that women who've carefully selected their partners are as bad as those led by their most primitive instincts. A little nuance will really help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:33 PM
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Keeping more people from commenting is the entire point. They know they're a joke. What they're trying to do is create an atmosphere so hostile that only the most jaded can even deal with the poison. It helps to normalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:25 PM
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Seeing that habit in action, it's no wonder why the structure of the internal clitoris remained a mystery to the world for so long. "Are you saying you know something about your body, that we don't? Excuse me? We're scientists. I think we've seen more women's bodies than you have...hmm, pause the video. Note that lesbians like long fingernails near their ladybits...." Somehow, though, I can't imagine the redpill extending the same clammy hand of brotherhood to gay men, trans men, genderqueer men…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 07:21 PM
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You keep insisting that virgins are high value, anyways. And then wonder why you and your anxiety disorders priced yourselves out of your ridiculous economy. Which, don't get me wrong, is great for the virgins who don't need to put up with this nonsense on their first go...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:54 PM
2

Ask Atlas-B-Shruggin for some hot takes. She's under a new account, but that seems to happen quite often, for some reason. Anyways, unless she's mellowed out in her older years, she never lacked for racism or cold-blooded defenses of tradcon cruelty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:51 PM
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Go attack those Tumblr kids - the worst you can find, and godspeed. Meanwhile, in the real world, South Park, Family Guy, Rockstar Games, edgelord comedians.... They seem to be doing pretty good for themselves. You really need to get your head out of the clouds - your social media feed is as realistic as a D&D campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:41 PM
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To be fair to them, I know two women on team red who are among the worst of the lot. And there's a few men and non-binaries rejecting this nonsense, but unless they constantly announce their gender in every single post, their experiences are just assumed to be women's, because they fall so far out of the redpill model. But yeah, it's mostly as you say. And it's why the rules say you can stereotype anyone you want, unless it exposes our redpilled hosts as the world's horniest and most insecure ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:36 PM
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Yeah, they're not subtle. Mrs_Drgree was more than happy to spell out the double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:20 PM
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Or they're actively fighting it. I think there's a lot of us who simply don't bother to comment. My point scores are way higher than they should be - it's a surprise seeing this subreddit near the top of my tally list, passing even /r/menwritingwomen and /r/badwomansanatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 06:18 PM
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With help from the mods. I was told that calling women "bitches who totally deserve their abuse" is acceptable, but laughing at the worst redpill nonsense, and the people who peddle it, breaks civility rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 05:50 PM
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Nah, it's mostly just a meme that the paranoid and insecure use as an excuse to rationalize their anxiety issues. They want virgins because they're afraid they'll fail if they're compared to anyone else. Meanwhile, a lot of virgins have unrealistic expectations on top of their general immaturity, so good luck with that one...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 01:03 AM
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Same. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/21 12:58 AM
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There's a lot of confusion here between "playing hard to get" and "not showing any interest at all, because you're insecure and terrified of rejection." You can be a challenge, and still keep it entertaining for someone willing to meet the challenge, if you're at all interested. They can't read your mind, and anyone constantly pursuing someone who shows no interest needs therapy, at a bare minimum. There's also a lot of confusion between "trusting someone with your emotions" and "being so immatu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 10:36 PM
2

It’s the bad stuff that takes conscious effort to keep in perspective, lest you fool yourself or let others fool you. That explains a lot. For me, it's the opposite. I'm less of an optimist, and more of a frustrated nihilist. All my best plans began as just "l'appel du vide". it’s important to keep a balanced perspective. Agreed. Why do you seem to think I should be concerned? You've addressed that concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 07:08 PM
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They didn't have that phobia. My point was only that most women still want and enjoy sex. Think of it this way - we still need air and water. But most people don't need to think about air and water. If you offer them a cup of water and a hit of oxygen - that's a pretty sad date. I'm not saying sex is as important as either of those things. But if you're raised, as many men and women are, to also think of sex as acceptance and validation? And then you can't get any? That hurts. It can do a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:26 PM
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A woman could subsist on non sexual intimacy for far longer than a man. Tell that to every woman who ever broke up with me before I got help for the sex phobia. And the two who didn't take no for an answer, and gave me that damage in the first place. I was still just a kid, when I met the first. Sex is just something most women don't need to ever think about, because if they just wanted sex, they know where to get it. There's more than enough men who don't care about making any kind of a connect…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 06:12 PM
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You sit down and ask them “hey, is this just about sex for you?” Well, obviously the person who wants the LTR back is going to go, “no, of course not! I care about you!” Problem is, the person who is just using you for sex is very likely to give you the exact same answer That one hits brutally close to home...but you knew it would. And sure, it's why I'm using this place to avoid that risk. But I've noticed something - The folks who pull this con often have a long, tragic backstory of people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 05:42 PM
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I just divide things up between those of us who are demi, and those who can even enjoy sex without an emotional connection. It's way more accurate than "boys vs. girls". If I'm not into random hook-ups, at all, why do I need to introduce that extra layer of complication?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:36 PM
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I almost asked why it was horrifying, even if they were also single. Then I realized how small a time frame "suddenly" could represent. And I was horrified too. I'm sorry you went through that. Nobody should.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:29 PM
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Your example's just basic withdrawal - sudden barriers where there weren't any, lack of trust and honesty, etc. People are reading more into it, because nobody's denying that's a warning sign. It's something you'd even notice if it was as basic as a claim of "I'm okay." and no attempt to keep the conversation going. So it's hard to understand what problem you're trying to address? In my experience, that kind of thing leads to a serious talk. If the relationship is healthy, we find the heart of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 06:26 AM
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The obvious corollary is that if you know you are dating someone who makes these kinds of concessions but isn't making them for you, they aren't as interested in you. Or that thing I tried, with hesitation, was weaponized against me. And I don't care to relive those memories. Or to invest in anyone who dismisses my pain in favor of immediate gratification. And if they try to guilt me over it? They're not ready for a relationship. They've got a lot of growing up to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:25 PM
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Because I never consented, to my first experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:54 PM
2

Right. But saying someone lost her virginity because she blew her boyfriend once and didn't enjoy it at all, would strike most people as equally stupid. (And even more so, if this was all that happened during a marriage.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:37 PM
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I think they're not gay...most of them, anyways. America's rather weird, in how fragile it treats masculinity. Also, I've met way too many gay dudes (both cis and trans) who could tear a man in half - especially if they aren't sculpting their muscles purely for show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:36 PM
1

It's also a measuring stick of a lot of things, because of all the cultural baggage we've added. It's not just about the having of sex, it's about who wanted to have sex with you, and why, and the conditions where it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:29 PM
2

Neither does "I lost my virginity when I was 5 and my foster sister made me lick her." Virginity's a concept we invented because people didn't have DNA testing. And it was filled with insane superstitions about the hymen and magical powers. Any attempt to make it make sense are doomed to failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:22 PM
3

It adds spice, once you've had the therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:10 PM
1

It's just as arbitrary as the real definition, so why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:09 PM
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Both sets of genitals involved, or does oral count? And is consent necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:08 PM
1

She means she's 52, and intends to ignore anything she can't experience for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:05 PM
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Is that why you guys are always rationalizing your manly paranoia over long term relationships? And insisting that anyone who doesn't LARP as a shallow woman's sex fantasy 24/7 can't get laid? Because that seems more like a you problem. And a lot of projection. But you know what's really fascinating about ye olde times? As bad as they were about lots of things, they didn't need to turn themselves into caricatures of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:56 PM
1

Thanks for the dodge and the tantrum. And for sparing me from any more of your shallow observations. Edit: Aladdin wasn't fighting for survival? And helping others survive? We weren't invested in his triumphs and his flaws? K. And you really misunderstood the appeal of Spider-man, if you think it's just the powers and the costume that keeps bringing people back to the character.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:46 PM
2

No worries. Take your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:45 PM
0

Maybe we have different definitions of interesting. I think the nuclear submarine engineer who toured the world and married a woman in Turkish intelligence had a fascinating life story, and a lot to teach about how the world got this way... Even if he was just an old man thrown away by society, and forgotten by many, by the time we met. And he only lived a few years after. At any rate, his stories of pigeon guided missiles - which turned out to be true - were far more interesting than anything y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:31 PM
0

Your hints included "Poor people aren't interesting" and "Why don't they have a Youtube channel"? If you want to keep humiliating yourself, I'm not going to stop you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 07:48 PM
1

How long does it take you to write a post? o.o
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 04:15 PM
0

Not everyone is an exhibitionist. And not every exhibitionist wants to deal with thousands of complete strangers or more. Especially with an algorithm that favors drama takedowns and frequent uploads, and can change at any moment. Or copyright claims which don't require actual copyright violations. and can require time and money to fight. But thanks for sharing your shallow definition of interesting. It's a fascinating cautionary tale.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:33 PM
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Lol, you're backwards rationalizing pre-radioactive spider bite Peter Parker No, I'm just an artist with training in character design. And I know all the cheap tricks we use on our audiences. he was an invisible high school nerd. Did you escape an 80's movie? There's an obesity crisis these days, which makes lean a lot more attractive by most measures. And again, nerdy interests have gone mainstream. All my D&D dungeon masters were far from single, and far from settling. And "sapiosexuals" are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:28 PM
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high flakes, failing relationships and ghostings from short term flings Okay, fair, that sums up my love life...except I'm usually the one doing the break-up. But I'm damaged goods, with c-PTSD, a sex phobia until only last month, and I've practically been raised to be predator bait. There's no way Reddit as a whole is as bad as me. Even in this subreddit, there's men and women in happy marriages/long term relationships/FWB arrangements. It's just that the people who struggle the most start most…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:15 PM
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And you're saying that all of your friends are poor. No, I didn't. I said my poor friends are interesting people. Those aren't the same thing. And I've learned from past experience how people like you, are poison. I don't care to hear your opinions on anyone I know. Come back after you've found some character depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:55 PM
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Peter Parker. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/db/Peter_Parker_from_Amazing_Spider-Man_%26_Silk-_The_Spider(fly)_Effect_Infinite_Comic_Vol_1_5_001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160627051308 Good bone structure, symmetrical features, flawless skin, no fat. Turn that into a real human body, and he could be a fashion model. None of his actors look that unrealistically perfect. And I hate to tell you this, but these are common traits in every single version of him. And in the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:46 PM
7

Bit more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:04 AM
1

To be fair, early harem anime were more focused on a good looking, talented guy who all kinds of hidden potential. Then most of the harem were designed to basically be extroverted sociopaths, and the sexual harassment/torture/violence would be played for laughs. Anything deeper wouldn't happen until he did something to be worth taking seriously, and the other characters had a chance to mature. From what I've seen of the 90's-2000's anime fandom, obsessed with glomping people and scaring the crap…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:50 AM
3

Only lately?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:05 AM
0

Name ONE dirt poor person that you find interesting today. I'm not about to dox any of my friends. Aladdin would've been some dude in abject poverty that died in a cave without the genie. He could have easily prostituted himself, judging from the woman sexually harassing him in his big musical number. Also, if you want to learn life lessons from a cartoon that claims movie star good looks, top 40 singing skills, and Olympic level athleticism is a great way to die alone and unloved? Be my guest. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:03 AM
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everyone knows how women clamor over Men with Tom Cruise good looks and charm, absurd athletic skills, and the ability to improvise a musical number on cue? The ultimate bad boy with a heart of gold? I'm not seeing your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:50 AM
0

The jab doesn't prevent you from spreading the virus, Not 100 percent, no. Are you pretending it doesn't make you any less contagious at all? If so, can you slap yourself? You'll be doing the world a favor, and a quick reset might help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 09:46 AM
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About the photo - you humanized yourself. I haven't seen it. I don't intend to look until after I've written this, if I ever do at all. But right now, you're mostly just silent text on a screen to me. Just like I am to you. For some people, that lack of nonverbal context makes it easy to assume the worst in any conversation. Especially for those who've been conditioned to expect the worst. Or for those who can't actually defend half the things they write, so they dehumanize those they're trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 12:00 AM
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OKCupid/Tinder data's biggest problem as a dataset is that it's biased towards visual oriented people who want immediate gratification. Since most women prefer familiar faces, and are more cautious of hook-ups, both due to the danger and risks and social stigma (in more traditional subcultures/communities)...not to mention, the increased likelihood for disappointment/sexual frustration... And also, the flood of spam replies headed their way from disappointed and desperate men who've taken a spra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 11:33 PM
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If you can't reply without being a cunt, I'm done here. Sorry about that. It's rare anyone actually debates around these parts - thank you! I've got to do some research, and I've got to grab groceries, but then I can give your post the reply it deserves. One objection quickly - why do you reduce human nature to primate nature and reptile brains? Sure, there's some overlap. But I've never seen chimps divide their societies into as much complexity as ours. For example, musicians in multiple genres…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 09:04 PM
1

I already linked that story, but my link didn't try to claim the rapist was transgender, and then also try to misgender. And mine provided a lot more context - a context which you're sure in a hurry to skip past. Why so scared? Let's linger over the details. That kid isn't trans, and wasn't allowed in the bathroom anyways, so your ban doesn't do shit except hurt trans kids. And we're not going to ignore all the trans people already being attacked in bathrooms, no matter how much you'd rather ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:48 PM
1

So, if I'm translating you right, you finally found a trans woman who raped cis girls in school restrooms? Because this is all I found., A rapist who wore a skirt once, despite not even identifying as a woman. And wasn't allowed in the girl's room. Anyways, this is way more important than all the millions of times it didn't happen? You reserve the right to harass trans girls...why, now? Should we ignore when cis women have attacked trans women in public bathrooms, because of fears like yours? Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:37 PM
2

Yes. I see that you've either known some shitty partners, or you were terrible at it. Either way, not sure why you're on autopilot? Most of us have been burned at one point or another. Yes, even women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 07:45 PM
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Yes, some people are more vulnerable than others. And no, the vaccine can't prevent 100% of infections, nor has anyone claimed it will. Here's some numbers worth looking at. I'll take measurable and repeatable facts over knocking on wood, and hoping "genetic superiority" protects against all future variants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:31 PM
2

That’s not even counting mating behavior in related primates, Which primates are you cherry-picking? Because I've seen humans representing all types. And yes, everyone can tell which men will be hired as supermodels and which men will be character actors. That's called basic pattern recognition. But I'm curious why you go out of your way to avoid studies like this one? Feel free to spin the hamster wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:26 PM
1

I'm more inclined to blame a lack of community and healthy sex education. Because fantasy's just easier to find than anything real, these days. Kids are being thrown into the grinder of humanity's collective id with zero guidance on what they're supposed to do. Those with good connections and decent social instincts might figure it all out, but for those in the sink or swim? It must be terrifying. Especially since they're also looking at a funhouse distortion of reality in their social media fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:17 PM
1

Well, the worst feminists agree with the vast majority of redpill thought. Not sure why you're pretending hundreds of millions of men and women are all a mindless horde of man hating animals - even if you need a simple break from 21st century complications, you might as well just be honest and go Lord of the Rings LARPing instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 06:08 PM
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Well, one could observe all the times the women posting here have disagreed over hot or not ratings in this subreddit, and then look at research indicating that women are generally more charitable in their assessments of people they know rather than complete strangers... For obvious reasons. And then stop using porn, hook-up culture, and paranoia to completely inform a shallow understanding of everyone else's love lives. But that's clearly too demanding for some people. So they'll continue to je…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:58 PM
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Or any other nuanced rebranding of rigid gender roles. The question was: do you define people's value entirely by whether or not their work is salaried?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:49 PM
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So, what I'm getting from all the bitter overreactions to this post is that every guy who dates based on beauty is willing to be used as a disposable tampon for the worst women on the planet. If you're attracted to one thing that isn't especially deep, you can't be attracted to anything else. Either that, or it's just the usual redpill whining about dudes being objectified in a way that makes them feel used, instead of in a way they can spin as a victory against the enemy. Myself, I don't get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:28 PM
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And what if they're doing all the emotional support/housework/child-rearing/while also providing mind-blowing sex? I know that description triggers defense mechanisms around these parts, but one day you're going to have to deal with the reality that some people don't subscribe to redpill theology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:18 PM
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Maybe if you guys stopped electing sociopaths, you wouldn't have this problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:27 PM
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The right's screaming about vaccines being a conspiracy against them, and offering their bodies as a petri dish for new COVID variations, but you think the left lost their minds? Congratulations on going whereever your leash takes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 04:23 PM
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Who fails basic social skills more often? Just for the record, are you claiming that the folks who uncritically embraced "alpha wolf" mythology were thinking logically? Because you seem to confuse the surface style of logical analysis with the real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 10:46 AM
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Especially when you ignore all the real life stories that go the other way, because you're terrified of getting hurt, and you need your poisoned comfort food.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 08:12 PM
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You're still an innocent, if you believe that. Some people struggle with inner demons, and they will cut you off rather than hurt you. Some are afraid you'll cut them off first. Some are just sex junkies, who can't control themselves. They always have an excuse for their behavior, and it's just best to spare yourself. And some are a hot mess of dark triad failure. They're incapable of forming a genuine human connection. And they're too empty to know what they're missing. Most of them are despera…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:57 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. My very traditional family disowned me...for many reasons...one of them being that I thought love more important than ceremony. And because I didn't want to be thrown away again, just because I was afraid. (I was introduced to sex, far too young. It took me a very long time to ever consent.) But that's all in the past now. I was able to get away, and define my own life. And to make my own mistakes. And to learn from them. And to be taught, and to teach.... All things you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:30 PM
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But where are they? Your standards probably aren't just romantic and loving and loyal and willing to help around the house. Or at least, they shouldn't be, if you want things to last longer than infatuation? People who stay together, they have a similar sense of humor. They know how to communicate, when things are hard. What happens when there's nothing happening, and sometimes the spark needs to be relit? What keeps them attracted, besides comfort? And they need shared goals. Or at least compat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:22 PM
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and do men really give love and romance? Some of us. But why would good men - who are everything you're looking for - still be on the market, unless they're making terrible decisions, or are too introverted for their own good, or have some worrying caution flags? Or are recovering from tragedy? And it's not like things look any better from the other side. honestly it’s too much work and hurt for so little. And im not trying to be mean, but honestly why would i ? I wish more people understood tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 05:56 PM
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Women love men with no standards? Since when? Desperation's generally the best way to scare most people off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 04:08 PM
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Last like?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 03:07 PM
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Sure, some people have no impulse control. It's why so many players get social diseases and unwanted children. Anyways, I'd believe their self-serving bullshit if I hadn't watched so many men (and women who play the hunter) use whatever pack of lies gets them what they want. If their victims were really that easy? They wouldn't need to pretend to be someone else, sometimes for months or more at a time, and then lie about what happened afterwards. And they'd be a lot more worried about the health…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:31 PM
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Television? In front of the camera or behind it? With the creative end or the production or the financial side? Let me know if this question doesn't apply. After all, I'm just throwing blindfolded darts... Was it reassuring to be part of a team effort? Or was it a battle with yourself? How did it feel to constantly have everything measured out for you? Because from what little I know about television, you've got everything on a pretty tight schedule, with actors/presenters hitting their marks, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 07:11 AM
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That’s not it. There are plenty of dudes here who will wait for a girl with a low-to-no body count. Unless they think she's lying. Or she's just another number on the scorecard, because she made the mistake of moving too fast, yet also not fast enough. Or he's insecure and comparing himself to an ex, and can't be bothered with complications. I've seen the tortured excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:55 AM
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But I hate my life where I life and I wanted that reason to travel Why do you need a ridiculous, self-destructive excuse on top on your perfectly good reasons for moving? Is it the all or nothing rush of an idiot gamble, or more of a romantic self-pity kind of a deal? Because right now, you're behaving like a child. You're not ready for a healthy relationship. It would be like statutory. You're putting way too much pressure on other people to save you from yourself, and that's a quick way to end…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:46 AM
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That’s not a dick with a heart of gold, that’s just being a normal person. It's what a normal person should be, anyways. Whether they actually live up to that ideal is another matter entirely. Many will find excuses to hide inside a crowd, or blindly obey authority, and confuse that for being a good man. Or they'll find they enjoy being a dick too much to worry about that heart of gold part - those types always have an excuse to unleash their worst. Or they might overcompensate and do something …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:48 AM
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Yeah, and I'm saying that people usually have a neutral to negative first impression of me, which is a mirror to my own first impression of them. (Edit: Okay, some people have good first impressions of me, but they usually have way more to do with being optimists in general, or just liking whatever style choices I've made. It's being part of a big fuzzy cloud of things they like, not actually standing out in a crowd.) Anyways, I don't like first impressions. At all. But then they find out that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:43 PM
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More like insecure men who haven't had any will exaggerate how many they've had, and women who need to pose as a good Christian will subtract to an equal extreme. Pretending this doesn't happen only works if you're desperate to believe in a mythical golden age. And insisting it always happens, is just another form of madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:33 PM
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What's wrong with being a dick with a heart of gold? It's just being a good man, combined with basic social skills so that you're not exploited by every dark triad mess on the planet. Why not make people prove themselves worthy of your best? Throw in one kind of teasing for those who enjoy it, and another for those who deserve it. Also, know when to stop. Don't be afraid to call out bullshit as needed... And don't be afraid to take a stand for what matters. And be prepared - and be able - to act…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:12 PM
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So instead, you must strive to be the most cookie-cutter badboy fantasy imaginable, so you can end up burned and bitter the moment you age out of PUA games? I guess if you're just aiming for a high score, so you can impress every other eternal 14 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:42 PM
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Relevant. TL,DR: Self-reports are useless junk data, because the men and women who obsess over gender expectations are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:37 PM
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Probably good advice for you, especially if that's the company you keep. But seriously - who automatically considers every stranger to be a good match? Especially if they're terrified to speak up for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:26 PM
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True. But I suppose there could be clear rules and immediate consequences for breaking them. Or she might be perfectly okay with something as easily understood as intoxication levels, but struggle with more complicated issues? The issue with gullible people isn't that they're incapable of learning. It's that you need to be constantly watching out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:17 PM
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To me, if one partner is having sex with multiple people, but the other is not What if the one who isn't, is just grossed out by the thought of being shared with anyone else? But permission to find another partner is still granted, and they're open to the experience if they ever find someone else they're actually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:13 PM
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In the BDSM community? Any dude who can babysit subs 24/7, and doesn't mind constantly running their lives for them. Other people will thank him for his selfless service to the community, because otherwise half those newbie subs will be demanding service from the rest of us. (Good looks don't matter. It's annoying as hell, no matter who is doing it.) At least, it works like that if he actually knows what he's doing. Most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:56 PM
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Some sub-Reddits seem to broadcast this. Reddit's got a reputation for being the place you go when you want to vent. Or to get terrible relationship advice. I've met some successful poly couples. They all think I'm insane for coming here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:49 PM
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But why? So any attractive woman can make a man hard and wants sex? If he's got a sky high libido, and he's not used to seeing attractive women? Or he's just really young? And he's not demisexual or anything this subreddit has weird issues with? Sure. Some guys don't even have the vocabulary to describe an aesthetic, so they go straight for the verbs instead. Besides, it's kind of encouraged. Not every man making claims about being an unstoppable sex machine would actually back them up if sudden…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:43 PM
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I'm extremely interested in what a gullible bartender looks like. Generally unemployed, after she keeps serving drinks to the wrong people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:28 PM
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There was a thread here the other day talking about how men's sexless rates were lowering and women's were rising. And at no time, ever, have incels represented the majority of the men. Anyways, I'm not a woman. I'm just an idiot who wasted too much time making terrible excuses to avoid taking my clothes off. Redpill claims that me and my fear of sex had nothing to worry about? Yeah, it turns out that's only true if you're also afraid of everything leading up to that. And you just let your fears…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 02:25 PM
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It’s not a crutch, it’s a requirement Enjoy your illusions. Meanwhile, some women aren't as shallow as those you're forced to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:03 AM
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Never said my relationships start offline. Only that everyone I know avoids hook-up apps, unless you really stretch the definition to include all chatrooms or social gaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:28 AM
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Nobody prefers to remain blissfully ignorant? That's just as innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:21 AM
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It'll matter to me when I have no other options. Right now, my exposure to these things is watching one or two friends make joke accounts on OKCupid just to remind themselves how terrible it all is. Seems not every woman is excited by a flood of half-assed desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:16 AM
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You're both naive'. You really think nobody gets hung up on who other people used to be? And she's defending a relationship so fragile that informed consent could break it. Really not a fan...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:08 AM
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If he needs that crutch to get anywhere with anyone, then he needs therapy more than he needs a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:47 AM
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You live on Tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:44 AM
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I believe 100% of men would choose woman 1, and the few men that say they’d choose woman 2 would just pump and dump her Sorry, but her submissiveness and gullibility just made me lose any interest. At all. You'd understand if you had to deal with enough COVID spreading 50 Shades fans who can't grasp basic concepts like personal boundaries or "I don't want to plan every waking minute for you." Especially those who take rejection as a challenge. As for my experiences with women like number 2? They…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:57 PM
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I'll never understand those who confuse "nice", with "being nice to automatically earn sex, while still being a dick to everyone else" or "being a spineless doormat." Stop looking for cheat codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:35 PM
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Woman number 2 seems a better match based only on what you've shared, but the quality of her decision making better live up to her own self-appraisal. I've been burned before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 06:06 PM
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I explained why the experiment had issues with a carefully selected test group. You countered by telling me what you want in a partner. You also insisted that saints totally virtue signal in order to get laid, and that any failure of these public displays is evidence women just hate virtue. As if no woman had anything to say about those red flags? I also shared my own results, which, in part, informed my criticism. Since links to peer-reviewed research never helped me in a debate before. You imm…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:54 PM
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Just curious - how many people here have had only one partner or less? How many believe incels aren't held back by their attitudes or untreated mental health issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:28 PM
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More like I'm trying to play mahjong with a fan of "Fuck, marry, kill." You failed to counter a single observation, because you're offended by basic pair bonding. This is why so much of the redpill is the opposite of science, despite superficial similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:13 PM
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You're the one insisting hookup apps speak for the entire human race. And further claiming that the people who hit on terrible hot people are a representative sample of those who didn't. The only 'standards' are, 'is she hot enough for me', and 'hopefully she doesn't try to drug me and steal my kidneys to sell on the black market'. It's called "projection." Take an average (AVERAGE, not UGLY) man, make him a saint, and watch as you get ignored. And how are you defining a saint? "I love all women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 05:01 PM
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And I went fishing with myself as the bait and some actual standards. Or you could argue we were all casting a net, in this metaphor? Since it was just adults consensually pairing off together, instead of just playing cynical games with thirsty idiots. Face it, "Chadfishing" is like claiming you learned everything about human nature from a bad reality show. Some people are shallow when they're horny? Wow, this changes everything! It's not science. It's a desperate attempt to control the results.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 04:19 PM
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Those who insist they speak for every man are too scared to speak for themselves. Or too stupid. Does it really matter which?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:57 PM
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Thought I made it clear I did my own experiments instead of repeating yours? AWALT, so why the careful cherry-picking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:35 PM
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The results of my own experiments taught me that my deep voice, my confidence, and my ability to tease back were more important than my height or my looks. Or my desire to dominate. (I'm a switch, but have no interest in a sub or slave.) And that I only had the chance to demonstrate these traits, after first demonstrating my ability to hold a half-way decent conversation. (Only fair-I also prefer texting first.) I also learned that my genuine interest in someone could turn a friendship into a cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 03:08 PM
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You think women are never lied to?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:04 PM
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The issue is that the redpill covers for a frequent failure to achieve healthy long relationships by insisting everyone who doesn't behave like Christian Grey suffers from a dead bedroom too. It can't possibly be related to the redpill behaving like a junior high locker room in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 01:02 PM
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I did my own experiments, and only talked to women I was actually interested in. When I knew what I was doing, it almost always went somewhere. When I expected failure, but made myself write anyways? The silence that followed was a mercy kill. The pictures never changed. Conclusion: you guys are either insecure as hell or so damn boring that you'd need to be extra hot to make up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:43 PM
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Depends on the type of ambition and intelligence, doesn't it? Many men and women with great analytical minds are terrible at advanced social skills. And a focused mind can also describe a one track mind. There's also an intimidation factor, I imagine? I've seen some folks collapse into an anxiety ball when they can't keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 12:12 PM
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I think the redpill's collective paranoia about long term relationships is at least a good starting point for an investigation into what not to do. Especially since they're an overreaction against another type of failure. Their b/w worldview reduces the number of measurable variables by design. Which means we could contrast and compare against successful marriages/lifetime companions, and be reasonably sure that many are describing their personal experiences to the best of their ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:46 AM
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It's important to only use online dating sites which focus on looks, and ignore any couples who refuse to use them. Especially when the guy isn't hot/rich enough for your circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:06 AM
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The infamous blackpill "experiment" with the "pedophile" involved a consensual teenage romance, bitter sarcasm about being labeled a pedophile, and a lot of cherry-picking. And then photoshop after it was greeted with laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 11:01 AM
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If you want to pretend every man is included in patriarchal power structures, go nuts. Some folks will think it flatters you. But take pride in your hand me down insanity, instead of pretending that's an easy way to sum up feminist thought. Especially since anti-feminists HATE being told they must hate all women when they criticize any toxic forms of the feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:53 AM
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They're just the XX version of the manosphere, and are seen as an equally depressing comedy by intersectional feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 09:39 AM
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So you agree TERFs and fortune 500 CEOs exploiting the poor aren't real feminists? That's a bold stance. Who else are you kicking out of the clubhouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:16 AM
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Hundreds of millions of feminists out there, representing all kinds of different branches, but it's good to know you can still strawman them all for easy karma.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 06:05 AM
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Good duck on WandaVision. But if you're arguing that only action movie audiences are too stupid to handle flawed women? Well, I seem to remember Rey beating up a random black guy for no good reason ("You must have stolen that jacket! No questions, only justice!"), running away in blind terror from her first force vision, attacking her teacher from behind, being completely wrong about that hot neo Nazi... And still being accused of having no personality flaws, which wasn't even true until Episode…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 02:17 AM
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it isn’t socially acceptable for female characters to have flaws Yeah, I remember when that angry mob burned the creators of Wandavision at the stake. And you don't want to know what happened to the cast of Family Guy. Scary times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 11:23 PM
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I'm a 5. I've just watched America mainstream the intentional spread of a deadly pandemic, which killed more people than any war time enemy, and left millions of others struggling to breathe. And half the country is too stupid to figure out that's a bad thing. The right's self-performed lobotomy is dangerous as the center's apathy. Anyone paying attention to history knows how this behavior generally plays out. Meanwhile, on a personal level? I just escaped a bad relationship. Maybe this time I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:15 PM
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K. You needed to do that before the meltdown.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:08 PM
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And most importantly, I wouldn't expect any 12yo boy to have to consults with a fucking journal article to relieve an education on the women he will encounter and interact with in the world... Recording your rambling and misspelled rant for the historical record. Not sure why you think this basic observation was simply based on two studies? They only offer a measurable confirmation of other people's experiences. Anyways, if you want to pretend that the redpill doesn't tell desperate men they nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:00 PM
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Odd. Whenever I show off data, the redpill generally ignores it and pretends to suffer from amnesia. But feel free to claim desirability for short term hook-ups is the only honest measurement of women's sexuality. It makes it funnier when you guys cry about not being able to trust your selfish partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:42 PM
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Describing what sexism in favor of men looks like. Describing a system of dating that doesn't involve braindead group generalizations. You shared your experiences, then ranted and insisted they were everyone else's, as well. So I shared some of mine. Make use of the information, if you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:23 PM
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Do not pretend like you aren't guilty of the exact same behavior. I only date friends. And I make friends by having amazing conversations with people. It's all very organic. Find me a woman Who doesn't think this corner of Reddit is a cesspool? That's a tall ask. I've been unable to find anyone who thinks I should be here, much less convince them to hang out and join the conversation. Benevolent sexism is whenever a girl likes sexism; in part or all. I dont believe I've heard of a male equivalen…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 08:11 PM
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I’m only black pill in the sense that I do believe race and height plays a role in dating. As far as race goes, isn't that more of a majority race thing? For example, when I was in Trinidad, my pale skin and difficulty with some people's accents was more of a barrier than anything. I imagine those barriers would have vanished if I were rich and great looking - at the very least, I wouldn't deal with the airport security assuming I was in the country illegally or get the occasional ugly look for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 07:59 PM
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experience has taught us otherwise No. Your experience has taught you otherwise. The people who have to deal with people like you, pre-judging them? Our experience taught us the exact opposite. Your problem is that you want simple solutions and reassurances in advance. And you're willing to gamble it won't bite you in the ass. benevolent sexism How are you defining this term? If you mean "kissing the ass of every woman on the planet", yeah, it's a red flag. If you mean "giving someone special at…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:57 PM
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You started out with a great title, and then the rest was - My gross generalizations are better than yours. I mean, yeah, you try to avoid it, but... All men care (about n counts). Yeah, everyone knows porn stars are lonely and desperate until a good man finds them and saves them./s Oh, wait, I forgot the sub I'm in. Let's start over, with more appropriate sarcasm. Yeah, everyone knows porn stars just want a roof over their head and a dead bedroom while they passionately fuck their way through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:42 PM
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Eh. You'd be only the second person associated with the blackpill in any form to give me a fair hearing. And even the red are hit and miss. Apologies for the skepticism, it's just... Some can admit the pill teachings are just heuristics and general guidelines. But too many treat them like a religion? Or a hard science, with any exceptions being some kind of a fraud? But you seem okay. So far.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:18 PM
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Can you explain what makes redpill and blackpill philosophies insulting everyone else on the planet okay, but not calling out the ignorance that fuels them? Just trying to understand your double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 03:50 AM
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I didn't downvote you. And I won't, either, unless you're actively spreading hate or simply ignoring whatever I say in favor of your own narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 09:57 PM
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Who counts as a purist? This article was also popular here on Reddit, before the place was quarantined. But what's the maroon pill? What makes it different from purple?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:51 PM
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Like that time you guys claimed every woman wants to be dominated and can't be trusted, or that every wife of a "beta bucks" is being raped? Or like that time most of the women in the redpill women's subreddit had enough of its self-serving bullshit, and created their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:32 PM
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Tried it, lots of times. It's how I got over my fear of sex and the PTSD. Sadly, no number of rave reviews for my technique could convince most to look past the medical issues and unemployment. And those who could, either had families who didn't approve, or were filled with red flags. Or they just wanted random hook-ups, which isn't a real relationship at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:12 PM
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Nobody asked you either. And you're all pretty pathetic, pretending that every woman is a size queen, when this context is applied to that 92% number.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 07:06 PM
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"Gym Bros before hoes: a beginner's introduction to the sexual politics of the far right." "How to call them cucks and sluts in 250,000 words or less." "How to be her Christian Grey." "A positive re-evaluation of the dark triad." "Social Darwinism for dummies."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:52 PM
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what if she said she was on protection, and lied? Then she's a rapist piece of shit? Now, can you tell me how we know who is telling the truth in a he said/she said? And why the people screaming the loudest about men paying for paternity are also the most likely to vote against a social safety net to cover for single parents/kids in the absence of that money?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:36 PM
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Wow, bisexuals must have it really rough. I've had plenty of friends where we'd be sleeping together if we were both free, but we got over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:32 PM
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He had a choice when he put his baby maker in her baby maker. Usually without any protection. The kid's not going to suffer, just because he's got terrible impulse control. Otherwise, we'd be buried in bastards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:28 PM
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Probably because sex is the ultimate validation. Really? What does the sex itself win me? A medal for being a red wing pilot? Carefully maintained fingernails, and a sore tongue? A glowing resume and personal recommendations for future endeavors? Pretty sure I've met plenty of people with no confidence and no virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:25 PM
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It was his body when he did the thing that made the kid. There's plenty of other ways to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:03 PM
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No, the "blackpill" means that looks are all that matter Right. Sex only counts if he's hot. Otherwise, you pretend it doesn't happen or it's for money. It's stupid. Or you can be a great guy with a lot going for you but if you aren't Chad, you get nothing. You know that, right? I'm flattered you think I'm a Chad, surrounded by Chads, here in Chad heaven. And for my part, I'll continue to hope that one day you stop making excuses for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:43 PM
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She's supposed to make the move for him. No, wait, that would make her a slut and totally emasculate him. Maybe she should send signals and let nature...no, he can't be expected to read her mind. Shit, this is hard. Okay, so, what I'm thinking is that on a 4th quarter second down, deep in her own territory, she should go for a Hail Mary pass - he totally won't be expecting it. And she sets herself up for an easy tackle, or she has a clear line to the end zone. Sure, his defenses might be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:37 PM
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I wish I had a picture of this guy, it would definitively prove Blackpill and AF/BB. The blackpill? That's the one where sex only counts if the guy is hot, right? And incels try to rationalize their untreated mental health issues away? Hate to tell you this, but lots of us know somebody who just charms the pants off of people without making a good first impression. And we've also known folks like Elliot Rodger - not bad looking at all, but so bitter and manipulative that everyone instinctively a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 02:14 PM
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Uh-huh. And that's why these same men are committing so many suicides and looking for emotional validation from con artists selling them a bitter resentment of half the planet? And setting the bar so low for themselves, that they think even getting laid is a real accomplishment? Totally worth a toxic relationship? I guess if you have to sacrifice your dignity before anyone will sleep with you, pretending you're secretly a chessmaster isn't the worst thing a human dildo can do. But it does rank u…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:08 PM
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There's no excuse not to workout Reasonable. and look your best No thanks. I'll look my best when I'm trying to impress. Right now, my aesthetic is "Not interested." A clear message saves everyone a lot of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:07 AM
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Feminism is the political expression of Borderline Is that how you folks virtue signal around these parts? Which branch of feminism would this be, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:04 AM
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But yes, TRP does tend to have more respect for the innate and difficult to change aspects of human nature, much like conservatives In the sense they both cynically cherrypick all the ones that help them rationalize themselves, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 07:54 PM
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Women are all attracted to the same body type? That's an odd claim to make. IF most women Damn clickbait. All I know, is that the type of women who unironically go for redpill PUA types all have the same preferences in both personality and presentation. And judging from the many redpill PUA rants about those very same women, it must have a limited shelf life. Either that, or all these players keep getting played by someone better at the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 06:23 PM
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Women who run casting agencies and offer family therapy are literally doing so by using their masculine qualities, Feel free to back up that claim. There are more feminine women and more masculine men. So these gender differences aren't easily ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 02:04 AM
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Is it really wrong for a man to demand for a woman who is loyal to him? No, but your belief that you'll know someone's loyal because she's never experienced mindblowing sex before is hilarious. Right now, you don't even know if you'll be loyal, once enough years pass. (Assuming your own loyalty is being promised?) Lots of men and women claim they'll be loyal... And they genuinely believed what they were saying, with all of their heart. And then they discovered all the ways communication can brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:46 AM
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CEOs Are the owners of multibillion dollar international industries, answerable to shareholders and investors. Whom often demand a focus on quick and dramatic short term growth with the patience of addicts and toddlers and sociopaths. Masculine minds have an advantage in meeting those demands. It requires a hyperfocused mind and endless drive. And the ability to be aggressive and act quickly. Or a dark triad personality disorder. But why are you limiting the definition of a business? Are you rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:21 AM
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Explain how you decided that feminine minds can't run their own business? Seriously. I want to understand what makes you associate the feminine with the fragile? The strong feminine is flexible, but it doesn't break. It's more like a powerful river, or the warmth of the sun, or the cold of winter...not a porcelain doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:21 PM
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Okay, but what if the couple shares a passion in life, make each other laugh with jokes nobody else gets, and the older partner uses their experience to help the younger one reach their own defined potential? And the younger one helps the older one question the limits of their perspective, and also grow? Yes, someone using their maturity as a weapon is predatory. But there are young dark triads too, who make up for inexperience with passion. When you're being abused, the demographics of your par…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 07:01 PM
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So, is shopping your sexual fetish or some shit? Do you run to Wal-Mart, with a goofy grin on your face and a rock hard jackhammer in your pants? Are you struggling to avoid fucking your partner right in front of everyone, because there's so many savings to be found? Just trying to understand how you decided to review everyone's sex lives by watching them shopping. Unless you're an infatuation junkie who never had a relationship last longer than limerance?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:52 PM
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People who don't give a damn about their partner's weight one way or the other are a larger population. You project your priorities on other people, and I'm not sure why. I hope you keep yourself in shape, at least, if it's that important to you? Can you honestly say it seems equally important to all the out of shape men you see?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:47 PM
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Not at all. You simply failed to consider the questions that delivered my answers. And if you try your genuine best, and still need me to spell everything out for you? Then you probably shouldn't be worrying about having a feminine mind in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:41 PM
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psychos of all sorts? How did you confuse femininity with a clinical inability to spot a psycho and put barriers between you and them? Feminine personalities aren't a hive mind, and whatever tragedies have contributed to your cynicism aren't the limit of human experience. And if they are going to pay my bills, where is a guarantee that they will continue doing so throughout my life? Who will pay for my parents treatment when they get old? Who will feed my kids if my husband passes away? Are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:14 PM
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Be fair. There's plenty of very intelligent women who'd be more than happy to play the idiot for them, if it means she gets a dildo who won't bother her with his problems. Besides, it takes real intelligence to play so stupid that you never, ever, challenge the insecure. So it's a win/win for the both of them. And some of these women might even be willing to marry their little dildo, until they're ready for something a little more real than whatever the redpill is offering. It's not like men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:46 PM
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Defining femininity as a weakness is something the feminine often encourage, so you don't see them secretly guiding you, or stabbing you in the back. But it needn't be a hidden strength, either. It's been known to win battles with just a look. Or just the right words. Or word, if said in the right way, at just the right time. Or not said at all. The feminine is understanding others, sometimes better than they know themselves. A good feminine mind is seldom lacking for alliance... It can inspire.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 05:39 PM
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Does it bother you, the difference between your outrage when you thought Japan had set an evil woman free - which it hadn't, vs. how lightly you take it when a man ends a student's life, and is celebrated for it?
/r/MensRights21/07/20 03:19 PM
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I'd imagine he must have. He's still alive, last I checked. It's not hard to find interviews with him.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 03:09 PM
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I'm talking about Issei Sagawa. After murdering Renée Hartevelt, then raping and eating her body, it was ruled he only did it for sexual thrills. So he was allowed to simply walk free from the asylum where he was supposed to be locked away, and then become a famous writer, actor, and food critic. He wasn't at all shy about describing the crime, in pornographic detail. And the crime even inspired a porn movie, which he starred in.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 02:59 PM
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She's been sentenced to death and the sentence was upheld. Her dementia is real, but the courts ruled its progress was too slow to render her innocent. And the cannibal rapist boasted about how much he wanted to repeat the crime, after serving no time in prison.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 11:40 AM
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You aren't helping anyone when you fall for obvious rage bait. Least of all, yourself.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 11:24 AM
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It also doesn't help MRA to be taken seriously, when they vote for the GOP despite their embrace of police brutality, less social safety net, and higher civilian casualties. Or when they ignore the deadly rule of conservative men altogether, so they can whine about every asshole who identifies as a feminist instead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 05:59 AM
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Because it primarily focuses on exaggerating how common successful rape prosecutions are, and doesn't mind quoting discredited assholes like Kanin and McDowell in order to scare people. Yeah, there are real horror stories. And very real tragedy. But this approach of assuming the accuser is guilty? It makes MRAs radioactive to a lot of people. And then there's what they actually do for victims. Providing a healthy support network for men in pain to rebuild their lives? Nah, it's better to just pr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/20 05:55 AM
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Either that, or her lawyers claimed dementia and she's not off the hook yet. This is the same country that allowed a cannibal rapist to become a free man and a celebrity after he butchered a woman, by the way.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 05:22 AM
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Wake me when Kratos gets an Other M. But yeah, there's plenty of strong women to choose from, and not just in action games, either.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 05:09 AM
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And its here I leave you, because whilst I would stand and say that both Biden and Trump deserve to be treated as innocent until.proven guilty you'll pick and choose based on your political affiliation. Except I think Bill Clinton is guilty too. You forgot that part while strawmanning me. it's kinda weird that none of these have gone furt You really have no idea how money and connections work, do you? But feel free to explain how anyone could prove Trump grabbed their privates? I'm simply observ…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 02:40 AM
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Are you forgetting the number of accusers Donald Trump has vs every other wealthy politician on the planet? It's 22. Also, Trump has denied ever meeting one of the accusers, which was a bad idea when the photos surfaced. how about those that know and support the Clinton's? Are you arguing Bill Clinton is a saint? Because it's either believe all woman which now means you have to hold Biden Because Putin's ("KGB for life!") biggest fan changed her story in time for the election, but forgot to fina…
/r/MensRights21/07/20 01:53 AM
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Just so we're clear about Trump's views on personal space. And who he associates with: Trump's special counsel, Michael Cohen, also fired back Monday denying the charge, telling the Daily Beast there was case law that stated clearly "you cannot rape a spouse." Your claim that Trump is above suspicion isn't holding up very well.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 12:11 AM
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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that a man accused of doing exactly that sort of thing by so many women was allowed to gloat about it. Can you explain why this crime, in particular, would be different from all the other ones he's guilty of? Or why we should believe the denial of a man who lies more than all of cable news combined?
/r/MensRights20/07/20 09:13 PM
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http://www.fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=3793cf99ec90ab7fc770babc77cba60211532fc4.173319&fmt=ela Wow, the original account that uploaded this was terrible at hiding their handiwork.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 09:08 PM
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A rape culture would mean that men could talk about rape openly and wouldn't be ostracised by other men for raping women. On the other hand, how many years in prison will Donald Trump be serving for admitting to sexual assault? Oh, wait, nevermind, he claimed it's consensual if they freeze up.
/r/MensRights20/07/20 08:49 PM
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Because it's more likely for male attackers to leave physical evidence of the rape, afterwards. And because male attackers are more likely to target complete strangers, sometimes in mass numbers, in broad daylight. Even women who commit a rape with accomplices don't form entire armies and rape their way through the country. In general, they're more likely to even deny having sex in the first place. Also, sexually predatory women, overall, are less likely to be focused on penetration, which allow…
/r/MensRights20/07/20 08:31 PM
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It's the one where every guy who ever explores soft limits or teases their partner is called an asshole, and every guy who simply means well is automatically noble and good. It's based on a ridiculously paranoid interpretation of enthusiastic consent. From there, it's easy for the paranoid to claim that women just want the men who actually respect them to die virgins while secretly fucking the villain behind their backs. I don't pretend to understand it all. Sometimes, I think Super Mario Bos ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:28 PM
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You've been told men with shitty social skills are terrible at hiding their contempt. This doesn't extend to skilled sociopaths, or people who change when they get drunk. This isn't rocket science, so stop pretending it's too advanced for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:50 AM
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I used to be you, until the woman who eventually became my first serious girlfriend let me know she thought I was treating her like a handicapped infant. It really hit hard, both because she was brilliant, and because she struggled with autism - I had no idea what a patronizing ass I'd been. So, here's the question to you, I wish she'd asked me - does flirting make you uncomfortable? If so - why? Because for quite a few people, who can handle a bit of teasing around people they're comfortable wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:23 AM
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Your porn bookmarks aren't evidence. But if you can explain how I'm being cucked by my girlfriend's wife, I'll be happy to make some popcorn and listen. Or you could just show me on this doll where the strawman touched you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:12 AM
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Other Biblical truths are less obvious, and require a much better understanding of humanity to see. YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND I AM THE RIGHT ONE. Works exactly the same, since you've given up on making a case for your religion - that didn't take long.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:08 AM
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We actually have mental health interventions, these days. And better health care in general. Not to mention, no more draft. And much safer workplaces. As men were allowed to step away from demands that they never show weakness... Well, not everything about modern civilization was a step backwards. But here's a question for you - how happy are men who struggle to find meaningful support/genuine intimacy? How happy are men who seek a higher purpose, but lack it? Also, who answers these polls? Who …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:01 AM
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It can't possibly have anything to do with the fact we're all aware of every single possible thing we should be worried about - no matter how statistically unlikely? Or that the news literally makes money out of scaring the shit out of the public, when it's not selling outrage porn? It can't be the way employment can end suddenly, taking away a sense of identity, or that many people work multiple jobs to make ends meet. Or weakened community ties due to all the distractions around us? Or a popul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 09:37 AM
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Yeah, but thanks all the same! I'll add it to the list of definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 10:53 PM
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Saying that humans do all this cool stuff doesn't change the fact that we're still animals. Now you're just making excuses for inertia. Fortunately, people are also stupid And a lack of empathy. Well, that just goes to prove my point that those without any pair bonding instincts struggle...especially given the amount of projection they throw everyone else's way. If you need to be hot in order to get any action, that's a reflection on you, not the world. Alright Mother Theresa. She was a closeted…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:18 PM
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Animals do pretty amazing stuff all the time. And? There are many different kinds of amazing things. Grouping everything together under "Amazing things", while giving us as much credit as insects? You know better than to mistake our species for a hive mind. Also, complexity =/= good. Oh, take THAT, strawman! I described a mixed bag. Is basic literacy another handicap you're struggling with? we're all pretty much uncaring assholes if you strip away enough layers. Yes, and that's why some of us wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:50 PM
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You need to stop reading so much outrage porn. The human brain is the most complex structure in the known universe. Not only did it take us to the moon, and then allow us to practically turn the entire world into our next door neighbors, but it invented a way to drug itself through limerence, and then figured out that even that was shallow. In the real world - There are almost as many warm and caring people as there are cold. There is wisdom to guide every fool out of their hell, if they would o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:35 PM
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Why? Attractiveness is primarily determined at birth, so, not really that much work required. I'm not linking the studies on exercise, style, and creative wit, because if you can't figure out why they make you more attractive, then your username is a lie. Also - Just because the internet offers free porn, doesn't mean you should confuse it for a peer reviewed lesson in human sexuality. And no, shallow dating apps aren't a substitute. Most people have functioning brains that work beyond a first g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:24 PM
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You guys really need to figure out what a beta is, so everyone else can follow your echo chambers. Is it a self-loathing door mat nobody respects, or someone with good long term relationship skills who isn't threatened by an equal? (I know some of you are genuinely unable to tell the difference between the two, but paranoia's more of a problem to be discussed with a qualified mental health professional.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:09 PM
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Do you just take internet pessimism way too seriously, or are you just gunshy after an unlucky streak of being burned by bad people? Because it's difficult to be someone nobody on the entire planet is attracted to, your entire life. Most people would need to work at it. The only other option is that you lack any and all pair bonding instincts. In which case, you might need an intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 04:00 PM
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The experiences of any man outside the statistical average - at least in ways that don't match their average - are simply dismissed. They're obsessed with the idea that their experiences speak to higher truths about the nature of men and women. It's why so many men don't even bother to debate them anymore. You might as well debate a brick wall. Even when you prove them wrong, they'll just double down on their claims in order to "maintain frame".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:33 PM
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Right, because this is how science works. Let us take a moment to mourn the lives of all the brilliant scientists lost, before they discovered how to read road signs and traffic signals. This is literally how humans formally learn - having things spelled out for them. When they're kids, being the key word you're missing. Beyond that, they may lack empathy, and advanced pattern recognition. Perhaps even basic social instincts. They're at least missing some developmental milestones... Which is why…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:25 PM
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And by "accept lesser intelligent women", usually we mean "flee in terror from women who can call them out on their bullshit." It's especially fun to watch the most shallow among them complain about how bored they are, when they've made these kinds of compromises. And when they try to spin an "AWALT" out of it? It's like they hand out free buckets of popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:06 PM
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This is cute. Of course a man has to be of equal intelligence. And then - I thought you guys were supposed to be about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 03:56 AM
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The reality is that it is far more subject to what works For our plucky protagonists. They try to drown out what works for anyone else, because it gets in the way of pretending they've tapped into universal truths about men and women. Not that they were ever working with a lot of self-awareness to begin with. the complications of negging Case in point. Even with your simplified take on the matter, they couldn't figure any of this out in advance? They really needed a dialogue tree mapped out for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 03:49 AM
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vs. the constant, repetitive, and repeatable patterns of behavior in a gender. After you've applied all the proper filters, of course. Cherry-picking data to avoid giving any credence to political enemies, pretending genuine pair bonding is a mythology, banning anyone as rude to right wing sensitivities as the alt-right is to everyone else. It's an implosion of cringe inducing hypocrisy, and questioning all the whining whenever red men are offered even a taste of their own behavior is fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:35 PM
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Studies on female hypergamy, for example, would be shunned Like this one? From a red state, and has a conservative bias - it's not exploring any subcultures I can recognize. It even hit the mainstream news. The only people I ever see shunning it are the most misogynistic of the far right, because it doesn't feed their cuckold fetish. Divorce rates are high with women initiating most of them Usually guys do all their breaking up with their partners before it gets to the point where they're marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:00 PM
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You really overestimate how long it takes to type a comment. What are you doing, searching each key out, one at a time? What's your letter per minute count? Besides, you realize some people can multi-task? My girlfriend's long distance, and we can't afford to meet every single day. I've got to do something while waiting for her Skype responses, and antagonizing hate groups amuses me. Especially since you're all gullible echo chambers feeding off of each other. Apparently, peer review and context…
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 03:45 PM
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No worries. It happens to us all.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 05:15 AM
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You keep claiming it's about BDSM - which you don't seem to understand at all. BDSM isn't an agreement to rape. You also assume they agreed to unrestricted consensual non-consent - that any form of sexual violence he wished to commit, was his to enjoy for the low, low price of just $5000. Just how innocent are you? That's a great way for a prostitute to wind up in debt, or in a grave. PS: Yes, I've been raped. BDSM helps me face those scars, because I can face them all at once, with someone who …
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 04:47 AM
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Never claimed to. Some people in the community are just dangerous animals, same as any other community. It's just a shame that a vet can't do anything to prevent such tragedies before they happen. But one day, I'm sure the jury will understand that it's just a matter of perspective, when you argue your views on the matter.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 04:25 AM
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BDSM does not make a person an abusive lunatic. Don't ever again try to throw our community in with filth like that. Dangerous amateurs deserve no protection from either a business contract, or any personal contracts of dominance and submission. Go roleplay with the other Goreans.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 04:14 AM
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So you're saying you do BDSM? Yes. Don't see any reason why not. Other than your gag reflex and your conscience, and since both are clearly broken... I mean, they didn't stop you from becoming you. and the judge should say in the ruling "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." Ah. Well, you just keep that warm, fuzzy dream going in your head, while you fantasize about violent rape some more. You made your point -I can understand why anyone would be stupid to trust you with a contract. Of any kind…
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 12:44 AM
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Normally, BDSM is safe, sane, and above all else, consensual. It's just how the contracts work. If you have trouble figuring out what all that means, how are you even reading this sentence? You might need a test for severe frontal lobe trauma.
/r/MGTOW04/11/17 12:17 AM
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More like we've got a variety of life experiences and peer reviewed studies proving that most of the redpill, as widely practiced on Reddit, is a how to guide to a dysfunctional co-dependency. Their paranoia about long term relationships speaks for itself. And. We've got plenty of opinions and solutions - it's just that we don't believe in a one size fits all system for everyone. Unfortunately, the fragile snowflakes of the right apparently can't stand the idea that some women aren't into a porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:58 PM
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Don't beat their victims up so bad they need medical attention and then rape them? I'm just brainstroming here, kiddo. Feel free to throw in a few suggestions, once you can turn back to Doctor Jekyll. Or hit 15. Whichever comes first.
/r/MGTOW03/11/17 11:38 PM
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If you start off as clueless fucktoy, you won't be drawn to TRP. Simple as that. They consider themselves mentors. And yes, they're out there, sharing their hard earned wisdom. They played a huge part in deciding the redpill's direction. They need to learn to use their empathy differently. Which isn't the lesson they're being taught, when they're told to roleplay a single sex fantasy and assume she's a match for a one size fits all pop psychology personality profile. Most clueless beta guys have…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:18 AM
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And if you start off as a clueless fucktoy, and then get some actual beta stability and comfort skills... Or if you're reliable and a hard worker, but need predictability to the point where you're failing at creating excitement, romance and even basic empathy - sure, the redpill can help address one part of the problem, but the other two may get worse. The redpill - as it exists, rather than the ideal - often sabotages men who need to learn and develop your natural gifts, and not enough is done …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:23 AM
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Than /r/theredpill? You really need to stop swallowing their line about representing average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:53 AM
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Society calls firefighters and soldiers good men and they slay. And I've never been single for long, in part because I'm naturally altruistic, but I'm not billing anyone for it. (Or, the opposite, allowing them to make me a victim.) On top of being a natural flirt, it gives a nice bit of depth to my personality - or so I'm told. So, how is being good a handicap? I get the feeling sometimes, the redpill defines "society" by "what my college professors said, minus context" or "What I overheard som…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:05 AM
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Most TRPers are just regular guys Many of whom think believe relationships can be broken down into number values, assume honest communication is a sign of weakness, against the enemy, and can't decode anything that isn't spelled out for them? No, they're not. They just can't admit their handicaps are handicaps, so they try to rebrand them all as strengths, or a shared universal struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 04:59 PM
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Isn't as insecure as you, and enjoys prostate stimulation. He also has a very giving girlfriend, since she's not getting anything directly from the whole thing. (Physically, anyways.) Not sure how anyone could regard that as a character flaw, when their weird obsessions with other people's sex lives reveal plenty of flaws of their own. How many normal people are that obsessed with appearing normal?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:49 AM
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There's a subtle distinction between "as much as men" and "1 in a thousand." I'm sure you can find it on your own, if you approach the puzzle with an open mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:43 PM
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Rather it's the opposite- you're desperate to believe that they are. I hang out with geeks who don't give a shit about traditional gender norms. Gamers among us are a pretty diverse mix. I've yet to understand why desperate conformists insist everyone else has to play by the rules that sabotage their own happiness. I'm sure someone will explain the appeal, at tedious length. Or in the form of deluding themselves about how much the rest of the world cares about their family's disapproval.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:37 PM
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In today's information age, none of us are changing that dramatically overnight without becoming a medical curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:28 PM
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I'd flaunt that sucker. 24/7 Halloween mask, and it's the canvas for whatever war paint I add. Fuck the shallow - they deserve to be uncomfortable. Also, I'd make a side fortune as a medical curiosity, and travel around the world. Edit: Then again, as judgmental as some of the people rating are, it'd probably just mean I'd need to lose some extra weight. Or I'd have less chin underneath the beard I'd grow. Who knows what worlds of disappointment await me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:35 PM
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Yeah, when I think of the best places to live on the planet, it's always somewhere in the middle of a Holy War over who their imaginary friend likes best. Or maybe it's an imaginary BDSM thing? It's hard to tell sometimes, with fundamentalists. They're so repressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:10 PM
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Many of us have met good women attracted to good men, and vice versa, while assholes continue to use each other until one day they just move on. Self-appraisals from the redpill are hardly convincing evidence otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:07 PM
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Typical. Call out an idiot manosphere circlejerk, and observe bad male behavior? You're labeled a troll. You guys really need to step outside of your safe places more often. Then they should just remain anonymous instead of telling everyone they're a woman. If you can't handle that information, you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:02 PM
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Are you a troll? You wish. Are you mentally able to comprehend the difference between "Farmville and other casual phone apps" and RPGs and fighting games? Too many men seem unable. It's not a bad thing to dislike people who use gaming as a prop to get attention. No, but it's unhealthy to obsess over them to the point where you shit on fellow geeks. How common do you think these black widows are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:52 PM
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No, they ignore or attack the real thing, then play stupid about it. Just curious - how many legitimately good streams/Youtube channels have you recommended in topics like this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:47 PM
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Nah. It's really the dudes who claim to want one thing, but who go out of their way to ignore or attack anyone providing it while obsessing over the thing they hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:38 PM
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And neither should Pokemon, because cute. Or Squaresoft RPGs, because the leads might make her boyfriend feel insecure. Zelda is way too mainstream, of course. And what's a WoW? Just curious - do fighting games count? I'm trying to figure out whether or not I should call my girlfriend out as a fake gamer, and I need the advice of gatekeepers like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:33 PM
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Like, women who play video games are one in a thousand It's depressing how desperate some folks are to actually believe this. Keep dancing the time warp, and maybe one day it'll all come true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 02:26 PM
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Agreed. Also, you've got good taste in games.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:56 AM
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Or just work on yourself for your own sake. Because pretending that there's a conspiracy to fool you about the real nature of women is the kind of paranoia that's not going to go away in a relationship. Especially not if you're going for someone who only cares about you, for looks, money, or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:44 AM
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Someone will figure out that their faces look less disturbing if they wear masks, or just look more robotic, and a new fetish will develop. Especially among men (and some women) who want the fantasy of submissives, not the reality. shrugs Most people will still continue to prefer the company of real people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:40 AM
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Which is why you should be exploring all the deeper forms of attraction. Unless, you're only counting attraction if it's instant and your life works like porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:35 AM
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Most humans have a mixed record. And there are also millions of men and women who deep dive into a better place. You only need one. But let's go back to shallow - why is it that charming flirts overwhelmingly report that looks, status, and money aren't the only things that matter? Why are other women sexually attracted to tears and other people's pain, for that matter? Or their own? And let's not ignore accents. Or adrenaline junkies. You artificially limit all the forms of shallow available.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:20 AM
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Admit it. You just want every woman to be shallow, because that's the easier fix - you can simply buy a solution. ;) And it allows you to feel like the hero of your own epic tragedy - unjustly spurned by a world gone to rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:49 PM
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It's times like this, when my username and flare really comes in handy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:28 PM
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You fully accept them for the cold blooded reptiles you insist they all are, while repeatedly shouting that any who aren't shallow are all liars. All because you can't get laid. And because you will embrace anyone who tells you that it's not a problem with who you are, on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:22 PM
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Must be easy for them to do, considering your low opinion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:26 PM
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WTF dude... Now, think about how many people have that perfectly healthy reaction to incel nonsense. Try to relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:26 PM
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You guys, he makes a good point. It's only fair. If he can't have it, neither can we. From now on, every man will have to submit a nude photo for /r/incel's mods to rate before we can have a license to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:36 PM
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Hm? Oh. You're confusing learning from with "AGREES WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY, INCLUDING THEIR BULLSHIT ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET." I've recently thanked a redpill user for their effort post here. It's not the redpill itself that's horrible (although, even in its best form, it's still flawed), so much as your fundamentalist spin-off. (One of far too many.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:50 PM
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The trick is to find an open minded one who is attracted to traditionally feminine things. Suddenly, small = corruptable cute. Just expect half of them to be weird about it. They'll play with worried virgins, and then think you're wrecking it if you get too eager.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:41 PM
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I've checked, and my aunt exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:32 PM
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I've learned a lot from the experiences of others. Past tense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:30 PM
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It's just going through the motions. Besides, someone might think you were actually here to challenge your religion and learn from the experiences of others. I'd hate to see them waste their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:18 PM
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/r/writingprompts No point debating all the fiction you threw in. You refuse to debate whenever someone calls you out on it, and you're incapable of providing any evidence that isn't emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:11 PM
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You need to meet my family, one my roommates, my girlfriend, and my friends. Every woman I know prefers close knit friendships - but part of that's due to the fact that I only suffer from social anxiety when there's too many people around. I'd never meet your crowd, unless I'm being dragged to another party.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:05 PM
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Your confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:59 PM
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A beta male to women is like a woman with a penis to men. It’s absolutely repulsive Huh. Another one who confuses beta and omega. There's a surprise. They can't even keep their own mythology right anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:43 PM
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There's a difference between a subordinate and an inferior. Some people just have better executive function, and they take the lead. Their partners contribute equally through support - which is often underrated, except by those who've been without it. Without the efforts of each, and an earned mutual respect, it wouldn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 02:13 PM
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I think the men and women in uniform I met were racially diverse, and their prejudices leaned more towards civilians who made their jobs harder. Those few who were racist/sexist/homophobic were very open about it. Those who weren't, didn't mind sharing either. Overall, I wasn't exactly seeing them shaking in terror of anyone else's thoughts on the subject. They all had more important things to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:33 AM
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Yes. But I don't know if you've noticed, but we're losing a lot of blue collar jobs lately. Most of the men I meet these days are in legal/law enforcement, military, the service industry, creative fields, health care, or tech. And while white supremacists and the alt-right do their best to infiltrate all of these, I generally live in mixed neighborhoods - some good, some bad - that cleaned up their shit as they joined the 21st century. The 50's are over. They're not coming back.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:51 AM
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My only complaint with all of that, is you still remove things like limerence and a few forms of wild card pair bonding from the equation. Shared ideals, for example. Or, as another common example, the way those who fall in love deeply, might highly rate a partner who practically wants to own them. While another could see that same person as crushing their freedom, and even hate them, no matter what the redpill's attraction formulas claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:44 AM
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Thank you for writing all that up. There's a few aspects you didn't cover, but that's probably inevitable unless we're giving you a book deal. The effort was impressive as Hell, and it really will save some folks an hour or so, from writing any more posts, everytime lookism comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:20 AM
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Like which? Everyone else is doing what actually works for us, and any debates inevitably turn into shitposting about the politics attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:12 AM
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Many women just communicate in a way that allows people to save face, and explore boundaries safely. Some lie. Some don't. Many are in-between. Same as men. Claiming it's all dishonesty is just ego protection for those who need everything spelled out for them. Ironic, considering how many of them are in love with their IQ results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 04:01 AM
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More like too many men are just too thick to pick up on it all. One of the most popular AskReddit topics is "Share your spectacular failure to pick up on obvious signals, in retrospect." You'd think men would just work harder on better learning how to read obvious signals, but apparently the thing to do is whine about the challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 03:41 AM
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Good luck with that here. The only two allowable topics are how to get laid in the most boring way possible, and incoherent manifestos about the end of civilization. They really can't seem to figure out how people who have the sex covered elsewhere behave the rest of the day. But thanks for being one of the few to post some common sense in PPD, that's actually applicable to the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:40 AM
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Are you drunk? High? Genuinely curious. Because I'm trying to figure out how you turned "Most women aren't into random hook-ups." into "women are made of angel songs and unicorn glitter. If they touch a penis before 30, they will die!" It's just not a conclusion most people would automatically leap to. I mean, I know a major part of the blackpill is reassuring yourselves that a committed relationship would suck anyways...but c'mon, we both know you guys don't even buy your own bullshit about dea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:20 AM
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Did you draw that all by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:11 AM
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Drunk sluts hooking up with random guys every weekend. Still not nearly as common as you want to think it is. get your mind out of the gutter We're talking about your incoherent passionate beliefs about half the planet - I'm just trying to follow your leaps of logic. I mean, alcohol and sex are in practically every teen sex comedy, ever. When you said it was way beyond "Unrated", I thought you might be presenting an original argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 12:07 AM
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Yes. Most deal with those prejudices at some point in their life, but they're more hunches, that they're quick to amend. They just have too much pride to run their life on an ant's base instincts. I mean, really, the kind of deep seated prejudice you're talking about is not exactly higher order thought. It's why you'll find the most widespread acceptance of it in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:59 PM
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Why would I? I'm not laughing at you because I think sex parties don't exist. I'm laughing at you because you think the majority of women are into them. You obviously can't count, if all you're citing is your personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:46 PM
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If you've been to a good American Frat party, it's worse than a teen sex comedy. Depends on the teen sex comedy. But very well - Now, explain why you assumed every party will be entered into prosecution's evidence? Or is just about random hook-ups - there's nothing wrong with it, by itself, but you obsess. I know you guys resent missing out in your youth, but your fantasy life is owning you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:39 PM
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He made jokes about fucking children. The only one specified is that he had sex with a girl just a few weeks shy of being legal. Surprise - some young women could relate to her side of the story. Not nearly as many as cynics would expect, considering how many profile views he had. The rest of the blackpill was incels being shocked at any women going for anyone. As usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:32 PM
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Shh. The fascists are fellatiating themselves. Most of them, it's even not their real opinions. They're just here to shitpost and soak up all the imagined outrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:30 PM
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It never fails to impress how many bigots just assume everyone secretly agrees with them. Also, that their favorite edgelord overcompensation is somehow masculine, now - how long ago was puberty?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:27 PM
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Every been to a party before? Yes. Now, explain why you assumed every party is like a teen sex comedy? And if you can explain how you erased all the folks who prefer long term relationships? Start with the blackpill's cult of bitter virginity, and if you can, throw a few roasties and femoids in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:21 PM
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I think the greed of public administrators leans more towards connections and social status. I've seen decent ones for all the wrong reasons, as often as I've seen bad ones. And every now and then, idealists manage to get into the system... Usually, they're the most tribal. But there are also folks who just understand how all of this works, and can actually make something functional out of all of it. Same thing in business. When one is being cynical, it's important to track the good with the bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:40 AM
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I'm very worried about greed. It's amazing how little sleep I get. the unfunded liabilities that our future generations are going to pay for. That's to be expected when the wealthy see our culture as something to exploit, rather than acknowledge how they benefit from it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:24 AM
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Plenty of people have said that, throughout all of history. You tend to assume everyone shares your decency, but I've been watching the rise of militant philosophies, reliably growing from every form of far right fundamentalism. Just like all far right beliefs, the redpill is so hung up on defining winners and losers according to its politics, that some very troubled young men see only failure in their future. Others will sell their souls for success. Earlier today, there was detailed advice pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 01:09 AM
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It's the exaggeration of their attraction that worries us, because of the mainstreaming of edgelord culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:57 AM
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So, whatever "type" you consider yourself to be, imagine you met a girl with a history of casually sleeping with guys who fit that type. Demisexual/sapiosexual switches? Who were afraid to take it all the way, before she seduced them a single night? I hate to admit it, but part of me would just want to know how she managed to pull that one off. PPD's nonsense about hyper-masculinity aside, not every guy is into hook-up culture. My love would kill me if I didn't at least introduce them, so they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:53 AM
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Most people understood that sentence. I can understand how nomie language might upset you, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 12:40 AM
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This is a retarded, meaningless statement. How meta.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:59 PM
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Especially if you ignore all the parts where Dark Triads pretend to be sympathetic progressives. Shouldn't that be drying up lady parts? Or are you going to ignore that part of it all? And why do dark triads do so horrible at long term seduction? Shouldn't their dark side make them more attractive to people besides other dark triads and the naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 11:57 PM
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Oh, please. You vent, and don't care who feels baited. You'd argue that challenging comfortable worldviews is a good thing. So. Thanks for providing the hypocrisy. It explains everything about TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 10:35 PM
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Interesting bit of ego protection. Let's dissect. rage You're reading a lot of things into this conversation. moral faggotry You know what's funny? For many of us, we don't need a red pill to read people. The downside (or maybe it's our strength) is that we may end up fighting on other people's behalf, just because it's the right thing to do. Your reading of our motivations is pure projection, and if you had any intellectual curiosity at all... Well, let's come back to that one. You don't want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 09:19 PM
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There's also the way you guys help stoke the fires of the anger phase. Unintentional or not, all that venting in an echo chamber isn't helping. I mean, if you're going to use cheesy Sci-Fi metaphors for your knock-off fight club porn parody, at least admit to aiming for a Sith mentality. Pretending a Buddhist embrace of all those outrage posts isn't fooling anyone. Most of what's posted there is nowhere near where you, or anyone else in a healthy relationship, really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:38 PM
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How would you recognize it? It's a serious question. Someone could easily point out that many of you use feminism to shape your ideas on what's attractive, in a very reactionary sense. It's no coincidence that when many women embraced the redpill, they looked at what you were offering, reacted right back, and went second wave TERF. The irony is completely lost on you, because your philosophy assumes that conflict from the beginning. It's all very ripe for satire. But why should someone waste the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 08:16 PM
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He doesn't. He's saying that while MBTI is less magic based, it's still an attempt to over-simplify.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:46 PM
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Many have serious personality problems that only show up when the honeymoon ends. Others have poor judgement, because they were taught how to be good victims, and it's easier to imagine a solution than actually find a working one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:43 PM
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So, I looked this conversation up to see if it was exactly as you described. It was exactly as you described. He seems very sheltered. But the blue pill is kind of varied. Some of us have friends who absolutely are way okay with random hook-ups, and some of us are actively looking for them ourselves. I cheer them all on, as much as I cheer those on who are looking for something deeper. Even if, personally, I'd sooner lose my thumb nails than sleep with a complete stranger. :p
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:40 PM
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The oxytocin release helps people connect. It's also a great destresser. Creative expression factors in for some people. Then there's the sexual altruists - some people can get off on other people's experiences. Many switches in BDSM communities, for example, relate too well to that description. And while PPD struggles with maturity when it comes to talking about sexual minorities, there's plenty of evidence that people outside of the community exhibit the same behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:24 PM
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He thinks this describes the entire blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:08 PM
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Guys who need the most help tend to be the worst examples. But they're also filled with passionate intensity. Archwinger, for example, even has endorsed contributer status, despite his frequent "bordering on blackpill" pipe bombs. Anger phase is a process Which too often ends in poisoned surrender. If you want to claim credit for the successes, you don't get to look the other way when it comes to the failures. Find me a way to cull users quickly and efficiently, ill be more than happy to. We don…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 07:03 PM
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Let's stick to the part where you're still manipulating the results to get the outcome you wanted? Not to mention baiting users into bannable offenses. Your technicalities really don't amount to much in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:47 PM
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Congratulations to you both. Why are you allowing so much incel and MGTOW nonsense into TRP? They come to you guys for advice - if they all had the ability to separate the good from the bad, they wouldn't need the advice in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:37 PM
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It kind of depends on why they had so many long term relationships, in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:26 PM
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I'm in a happy relationship, while you guys are paranoid as Hell. So, the real question is - Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 05:59 PM
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Because there are billions of people with experiences outside of TRP's self-imposed bubble. If you can't even walk in the same reality as the rest of us, why are you here? Furious intellectual masturbation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 05:42 PM
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I said they don't only do it for cynical reasons. Your cherry picking isn't exactly persuasive. Nor is your strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 05:21 PM
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Women don't just sex for the O No kidding. But they don't just do it for cynical reasons either, no matter how desperate some people are to protect their emotional vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 05:17 PM
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Depends how willing we are to think like sociopaths. Exercise is good for you, and anticipating the wants and needs of others can be a useful skill to develop. Especially if there's financial compensation or you can translate it into meaningful connections. Some very ambitious ex-sex objects used other people's desires in order to benefit themselves and others - it was just a starting point. And let's not forget sex objects who sexually objectify their audience. But the moment you get into the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:50 PM
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As I said - you know the results you want. Not sure why you're shy about admitting it. It's not a free exchange of ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:32 PM
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So, exactly how much damage to the world has been caused by ambitious men terrified of short term failure? Any kind of objectification has a human cost. It's not like the shallow, and those without empathy, are noted for their common sense restraint.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:31 PM
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Except half of the redpill is an attempt to shame men who don't live by the redpill Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:27 PM
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Like a retard meaning you try to shame them for even posting blackpill nonsense like this? I mean, when the only difference between you and the beliefs of /r/incels is that you're capable of understanding power dynamics, a little soul searching might be in order.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 04:16 PM
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And anyone with a different experience will be attacked/banned. The redpill knows the picture it wants to paint - everything else is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:43 PM
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Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. The redpill is just a far right cult for people who think empathy is a conspiracy theory. It seems too many purple variations are just for shallow people who think the entire world agrees with them. Edit: Also, many women don't even get off during no strings hook-ups - why shouldn't they have demands that are just as porn script worthy? Why are so many couples, from all walks of life, experiencing the exact opposite of dead bedrooms, if half the planet overwhelmingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 03:35 PM
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It's been a clique for a while. All the real conversation happens in the chatroom, and only the mods pretend to be neutral anymore. Many people just come here to shitpost now, but be careful about when you're shitposting back. At least, if you want to stay on the good side of a bunch of judgmental assholes and their enablers. They can dish it out, but they really can't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:27 PM
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She really knows how to speak to selfish assholes who hope other people will keep civilization going for them. She's great to keep in the back of your mind when writing summer action movies, though. A few quips, a few leveled cities, and everybody will forget how much it sucks to be every background character in the movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:17 PM
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Also, these days, gender dysphoria is considered the result of the body not matching the brain. The brain works just fine, which is why correcting the difference is so helpful to so many. I wish people who don't understand basic psychology would stop spreading whatever ignorance they picked up from right wing websites.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:41 AM
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Yes, we're all coping while enjoying our lives, as opposed to you telling yourself that everyone disqualifies you for your looks, and not who you are on the inside. You're right about one thing - with that shitty attitude, you'd need to be as hot as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:34 AM
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Mhmm. More like you guys get terribly confused about how the 80/20 study worked. Blackpill zombie: "Look at Chad going through all those partners! If a college student's in a committed relationship, he must be a beta cuck in a dead bedroom. And if he's focusing on his studies, he must be incel." It just makes sense. Now if only I could find another brain to eat besides my own. MM...braaaaaainss...." You guys also adore pretending OKCupid speaks for every form of attraction while ignoring the par…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 04:57 AM
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Awww, you're adorable. But my expectations for blackpill are already "behave like 3 year olds.", so you're not really able to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 04:38 AM
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"We showed young college aged women some photographs. And some words. Because we're too damaged to understand vocal tone, body language, soft limits, timing, how a shared sense of humor makes it work, plus long term social bonding." I've seen the studies you guys cherry pick. No wonder why STEM cells are a joke when it comes to seduction. Then again, I also posted a few, in my own little social experiment, that prove you guys will upvote anything that has a misogynistic title, even if it disprov…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:41 AM
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Mods deleted your collection of cliche's, because like every other incel, you refused to actually debate anyone. Explain how they actually refute everybody else's experiences? Like the rest of the blackpill, you describe cold approaches and first impressions, then take a shit on higher cognitive functions, like tribal identification, and individual adaptibility. You handwave it with feminism and Tindr. Your understanding of genetics is questionable, at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:35 AM
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My dad was your height, and his looks didn't do him any favors. Still waiting for proof he didn't reproduce. But keep making excuses to avoid the risks the rest of us took.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:24 AM
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Okay, think about this, because I know you understand social power - imagine some of the shitter places to live. Places where people are raised on cycles of abuse, and soul crushing disappointment, and expect nothing except hurt. So they don't really connect. Ever. And to them, love and lust never go beyond traps that can cause more pain. Now, imagine what happens when someone with advanced charm, entertainment skills, emotional support, humor, etc drops into the scene. They're instantly the mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 01:11 AM
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Didn't ask for yours. You have a problem. Some people I care about have the same problem. What they know is offered, if it can help. Or if you even want help. It's just how civilization works.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:59 AM
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I've got friends with autism. No matter what anyone says, it can suck, especially when you're being overwhelmed by other people's emotions. What do you do when that happens? Has anyone taught you how to handle it? Or how to identify and respond to people appropriately? Usually, it's supposed to all be broken down, to cause and effect, if possible. Also, do you have any sound triggers, etc, any other symptoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:55 AM
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They are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:48 AM
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So, explain all the ugly guys who charm their way into getting away with a lot of shit? You can circlejerk off about how you don't know any, and it won't do a thing to convince any of us who've seen it happen with our own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:48 AM
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Usually thoughts require more than "It's what feels right to people with no experience in the subject." It's just a manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:46 AM
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It's not clever. It's just that either nobody reported it yet, or the mods are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:45 AM
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Blue pillers think guys like this earning six-figure salaries are "average" when they talk about the sexual and romantic success of the "average" man. Do you actually believe that? Because you're so far removed from reality that it makes me wonder how much progress you've actually made.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:44 AM
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Lol Yup, there's the smirk of the faithful. Congratulations on proving that the backfire effect is a thing. Dunning and Kruger must be proud. But here's your problem - I come from a short father, who didn't have much in the way of looks. He was just charismatic as Hell. And when you babble on about all the reasons you don't need to face your real issues? You just humiliate yourself, and your poor hamster. Let the poor thing off the wheel, already. You're going to give yourself a stroke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:39 AM
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No, the blackpill's about a bunch of overgrown children with damaged social instincts making up shit about the dating and sex they've been denied. You asked for what we think about it, and now you're going to have to deal with how ridiculous your fantasy life looks to the rest of the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:34 AM
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More blackpill nonsense I can't stand when atheist religions like "the blackpill" are more divorced from reality than the supernatural ones. It makes the fundamentalists think they have a point, and before you know it, every bitter asshole is being recruited as a suicide bomber.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:29 AM
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That is the topic. If Ayn Rand wrote cuckold porn, you'd have the blackpill. It's a comedy act to everyone except the kind of virgins who desperately wish other virgins weren't laughing at them. It's only of value to those who are interested in understanding where escapist fantasy overlaps with conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:23 AM
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Let's call them "Stripperella" and "Gaston", for the sake of accuracy and as a constructive criticism of your character writing abilities. If everyone subscribed to the hentai feed the blackpill has streaming in its understanding of the world, they'd struggle just as much. Fortunately, most of us found love and lust with someone whose virtues and flaws were compatible with our own. I'll admit, it's not quite as noble as incels sharing their newfound obsession with alt-right cuckold porn, but we …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:15 AM
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I do place more emphasis on genetics: you win or lose at conception is my motto for the Black Pill as I see it. Sure, if you're a single celled organism. And I understand many insects can be cruel to each other. But many of us worked to get where we are. So, no thanks. You can keep the hamster pellets. Edit: This might also help with the detox.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 11:58 PM
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The public narrative pathologizes normal boyhood behaviors like trying on womens clothes for fun, and adult fantasies involving being desired like a woman. Sure. You can even see it here. PPD's especially hypocritical on all of those things. It claims men's roles are limited, but tries really hard to shame any men who succeed on women's terms. But there's never been a time in the world that was less judgemental. And transphobes trying to prove that a transgender identity is a matter of choice ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 10:04 PM
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Thank God someone here isn't a TERF or a gullible transphobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 09:54 PM
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I tore through a blog last night that cataloged the user created content from transwomen on reddit That's a joke. We both know it carefully cherrypicked outrage porn. Most transwomen report something way less about fetish, and where are all the transmen? Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 09:53 PM
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Status is variable. Sometimes, a low status with one crowd will earn you more respect elsewhere. Part of growing up is knowing where you belong, and deciding what you will and you won't stand for. Besides, those who don't are usually either naive, dangerous enablers, or they're disingenuous suck-ups. They'll be the first to allow something completely toxic to develop because "It's the rules." Or "But they're my friends!" Or "I'm afraid to be a target."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 01:44 PM
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Your reaction certainly isn't isolated. As for what you're trying to attack, instead - yes, some really shitty women cast themselves as underdogs whenever they do really shitty things to other people. And other shitty people let them get away with it. Maybe they think it's cute. Who knows? What they all have in common, is they're shitty people. Or at least, they enable shitty people to do shitty things with their shitty hand-me down prejudices. But c'mon, all of politics is men doing this too. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:31 PM
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The original redpill definition of bluepilled is someone who take's society's conditioning at face value. Since radical feminism was an extreme reaction to society's conditioning, and the redpill is an extreme reaction to radical feminism, they've just turned into an exaggerated caricature of societal conformity. They're bluepilled as Hell, and it's how they cope with uncertainty. Because let's face it, beyond what's needed to hook up with another human being, most are terrified of risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 07:21 PM
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I'd compare it more to electric wiring vs. an explosion. Even when you can't see it, it's still keeping you warm. And it's possible to adjust the wiring to avoid unwanted shocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:34 PM
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Note to men worried about small dicks, the following are also important: Actually small, or small as compared to porn? Grower or shower? Girth? Do you know what you're doing with fingers and tongue? (Or teeth and rope, if she's into that.) Most important: Is she a size queen? Will she find your obsession with size as exciting as you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 07:27 PM
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I believe the word you used for our relationship was "disgusting"? You were obsessed with proving women can't actually be in charge of one, for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:59 PM
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It was your sole reason for judging my life, remember? You couldn't get your mind out of the gutter long enough to deal with the non-sex parts, and hijacked the entire thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 06:09 PM
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I find most things males do sexually more disgusting Everything men and women enjoy together that doesn't get you off, you find disgusting. Real deep thoughts there, kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:42 PM
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Can you elaborate on this passive-aggressive phenomenon Sure. It's basically stealth aggression. A passive aggressive technique tries to tear you down in a way that still looks sympathetic. For example, it's perfectly okay to ask someone out. It's also perfectly okay for someone to reject that offer. A passive-aggressive nice guy, won't allow that to go by without retaliation. The easiest way to protect their ego, and to get revenge, is to make up reasons for their rejection that are as flatteri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:23 PM
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If you sit around waiting for the world to change and for women to approach men But they already do. Especially if you're offering something they want, and you hang out in places where they're neither judged for it, nor pressured to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 04:08 PM
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Can confirm - hang with BDSM and poly crowds, in BDSM relationship with poly woman. Nerd sex rocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:54 PM
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You can see this reflected strongly in the way they mock and attack guys who are unlucky in attracting women, for example - it is automatically assumed it's because they are "creepy", selfish or manipulative. Source: a deliberate misreading of /r/inceltears and /r/thebluepill. Where we mock misogynists who run screaming for human shields to hide behind. Because let's face it, the redpill and the black are only okay with being offensive, until someone's offensive back.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:47 PM
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According to the desperate men of PPD? Redpill: Almost anything if she's hot enough. No wonder why most of their relationships are so shitty, and they think genuine pair bonding is a myth. They also confuse everyone else for their own spineless selves. Blackpill: Everything, except the endless excuses they have to avoid trying anything in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:34 PM
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Ok, but you could me why aren't lesbians I can't be bothered to deal with any troll this incoherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:11 PM
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To be fair, your obsession with penetration only, and overall lack of imagination? It explains why your partners weren't very interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:07 PM
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You're not hopeless in the way you want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:04 PM
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This is the first time I've ever had to break out this link.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 03:03 PM
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also confuses penetration and sex Should I wait, while you finish masturbating?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:59 PM
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Incredibly ugly men are a very small section of the population. Think those 2 datapoints might be related, somehow? But I can see why you're not going to attract anyone with that personality. Edit: And that's even assuming you're as ugly as you claim to be. Most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:56 PM
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They met at a burn conference. So yeah, I'm actually sure he was like that when they met. And there's plenty of anecdotal data - you just demand it be the vast overwhelming data, in all cases, because you're terrified of being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:51 PM
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In my experience, nerdy girls are much more likely to be sex positive feminists (the real kind, not the straw kind the redpill is obsessed with), and totally okay with experimenting. Edit: Correction: "Totally into experimenting. I mean that's the basis of science, right? ^_^"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:41 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:37 PM
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Most? Can you provide a source? Women don't want to fuck, period. Besides your dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:34 PM
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The problem is that there are passive aggressive nice guys, who know how to look out for themselves. They're still not attractive, but they want you to believe it's their kindness that's not attractive. Part of their strategy is to shit on good men. (and good women, whom they regard as unicorns) So to those who actually enjoy the company of good men, or who aim to be good men themselves, it became important to separate Nice Guys TM from underdeveloped guys who were just too nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:25 PM
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Hamster away. Let me hear all your shitty excuses to stay in hiding. I'll even give you a handicap. Here's an article that consulted someone with a shitty excuse to cover up results that contradicted the stupid stereotypes you live by. His bullshit has nothing at all to do with the study, but I know you want desperately to believe him. You're only 2 inches shorter than me, but surely those two inches will make all the difference? Helping you live in denial is the least I can do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 02:12 PM
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I will always be someone's second choice. It's really important that we never forgive the folks who took away our chance to shout "FIRST!" How dare they?! There are valuable prizes at stake. Seriously, if you take someone's virginity, they owe you a life debt. But at least you'll always have Youtube. Okay, enough of that. I'm not sure which planet you live on, where everybody is stuck on their first choice? It's not how this one works. No matter how many clueless idiots on Reddit made their SOs …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:52 PM
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It's a good theory. I wish there was a way to test it. My theory was that the problem starts earlier - they make it into a big thing because they get stressed easily, and just hanging out with someone gives them too many chances to talk themselves out of pursuing anything. (Just look at their obsession with The Friend Zone - it's clearly a problem for them.) So to them, dating really is a big thing. In their minds, they've taken their first HUGE step towards making something happen with another …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 01:26 PM
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so you like the communist bra burners of the second wave more then SJWs? They carry the worst of the second wave over to the third wave, subtract the best of the third wave, and then blur the revolution of the 90's into their least favorite Tumblr pages. It's a lot of effort, but when you're anti-feminist more than you're pro-anything, you've got to torture logic a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:53 PM
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Why is this seen as such an effort? It's an effort if you're terrified to let things happen organically. It needn't be an autism spectrum disorder. Lots of people sabotage themselves. Most will grow out of it, fortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:49 PM
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I've seen it described as standard in posts from traditional women (both red and blue), and men who really need everything planned upfront. Apparently, it's still happening. But those actually enjoying the process seem the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:42 PM
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It's hard work if you make it hard work. Some people just hang out, and if there's any chemistry, they just fall into something wild and wonderful together. Some people, less adventurous, formalize all of this. They meet complete strangers for dates, and it advances (or doesn't) at a steady pace. They even argue over what should happen, when. It's all a bit silly. No one way is the right way for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:34 AM
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Redpill theory is just stealing obvious shit, like 'exercise is good', and 'look your best', then adding hard right insanity like "Conform or die alone!" It pretends to be a rogue's philosophy, but that's because it talks shit behind people's back and can manage pissy little mind games. (Dread game.) Really, it's just a watered down form of what you'd see in /r/incels. Still angry poison, but at least it's trying to use that anger. With that said, it's a guide for men terrified of rejection. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 10:26 AM
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It's important to those who want to demonize the left to pretend that we hate innocent men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:50 AM
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I come from a family of givers, and my friends and I do everything you describe. Don't one of you, at some point, take it to the next level? Doesn't someone need to take a risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:47 AM
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That's why I said they aren't able. Still, even with that in mind, some kids are way more tolerable than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:45 AM
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He's saying that men are horny idiots useless for anything except breeding. I'm not sure whether he's aware he's saying it. But. He's such a gentleman that he ignores everyone in order to circlejerk his way into another dimension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 09:43 AM
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Because he's either confused or strawmanning. The problem, from a bluepill perspective, is when you pressure people to decide whether they're attracted to you, out of the blue. Especially if you use your previous platonic behavior as leverage. It can be an innocent mistake, but it's still a shitty thing to do to someone. Especially those who, when turned down, take it personally and aren't able to deal with it like adults. And those getting pissed because simply behaving like a platonic friend i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 12:21 AM
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My point is that when you use make-up to reveal, instead of conceal? When you absolutely don't give a fuck how shallow idiots handle it? And you look good doing it? Especially if you have any creative talents at all? It all counts in your favor. And no amount of redpills or blackpills will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:49 PM
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Got it. Women don't like men who use make-up, because you'll exclude any men who use it and have other good traits. Edit: All it did for me, was make it so that men and women approached me, for a change. Some places prefer men who stand out and don't give a shit. If we allowed you guys to run scared all over recorded human history, nothing would ever change.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:31 PM
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You're right. Every guy who uses make-up dies alone, and I should ignore my experiences and substitute your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 06:29 PM
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but dislike men who do it. Look at KISS, Marilyn Manson, Brandon Lee as the Crow, etc. All incels. Seriously, the redpill is totally right about the desperate conformists they can land with their inside "Obvious shit most people figured out for themselves" techniques. And nobody should read too much into their frequent need for passive-aggressive manipulation to keep it all going.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:19 PM
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It's mostly just everything the redpill is too immature (or cognitively impaired, in some cases) to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:16 PM
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Most women flee and run away Maybe Godzilla was a bit too alpha of an approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:14 PM
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All of which fall under 'rejecting him because she judged him personally lacking' which is personal. No, it's a "Right now, you're doing this wrong." Or a "Sorry, I prefer more/less aggressive approaches." Or a "Shit, I just broke up with my shitty ex, can I please breathe a bit first?" It may be more personal than that, depending, but always taking rejection personally? That's not healthy for anyone. Even the redpill acknowledges this. This part has just devolved into a rant about how shit men …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 05:13 PM
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Except plenty of women tell men that their approach sucks. Or are so desperately uncomfortable, that he should have figured out she's not into what he's offering. You just confuse locker room bullshit for gospel truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 03:03 PM
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Or maybe she doesn't like cold approaches. Or he's trying too hard, and it's killing the mood. Or maybe she's willing to give them a try, but only if he's one in a thousand. I've watched dudes hitting on my friends and family, and failing, over and over again, because they can't deal with the fact that no amount of male hamster is going to turn every single woman on the planet into Chad Thundercock's fleshlight. And certainly not Bobby Niceguy's - he's just advertising that he's still unsuitable…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:58 PM
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Often, men in PPD complain when you don't break blue pill concepts down to the point where they can't sabotage themselves. Teach yourself to love Yourself and other people, not the limerence alone. That would only make you an addict. cherish yourself and find true value in your own life and existence. Note: Narcissism overprices itself. Long term, it's not a good plan. work on self validation Responsible self-validation. Confidence only goes so far if you let Dunning-Kruger take you to dreamland…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:38 PM
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Yeah, the Nice Guy(TM) takes it personally. Because it is personal. Yes, he makes it personal. That's just one of his exciting mistakes - or just as often, severe personality defects. The fact that he takes it personally doesn't mean there are many of him. No, but they're way over represented in the population of men attempting a cold approach. Ditto the women who take the initiative. (Or wait bitterly for an expected approach that never comes.) But what I said is actually what happens Sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:27 PM
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she has an immediate visceral reaction of disgust, repulsion, revulsion and fear, in part because she believes it's all directed at her personally. More like every nice guy (tm) takes the rejection personally. And men who struggle to figure things out, in good faith, are completely different (and way more sympathetic) than those who can't deal with the fact that half the planet has more than a single personality to split amongst themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:12 PM
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how would your viewpoint change if your gf had a husband instead of a wife? It'd mean using an entirely different set of pronouns. Or if she was your wife and wanted to date other men and bring them into your bedroom? No idea. I mean, I know what I can say right now, and what I'd aim for, but it wouldn't be fair to judge any established partners for their insecurity when I've always been the new arrival. Especially since, like the rest of my family, I'm naturally monogamous, so if I hadn't been …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:04 PM
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Man. But thank you for actually asking instead of assuming, the way most of the internet does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:45 PM
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I agree with this post, but not the previous. It's the cheating and the excuses that are the problem, not the attraction dynamic by itself. I've seen open relationships that were just as loving as the kind I grew up with. My girlfriend is poly, and like her wife, believes that commitment is about more than just limiting your sex life. I can't be attracted to anyone who isn't at least my love's demon possessed puppet, but more power to them both. She's both selective about who gets invited to sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:21 PM
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It only shows you know what to expect around these parts, and it still hasn't killed your soul yet. Thank you for posting. I'd give you gold for rewarding my faith in humanity if I had the spare money. Take a silver instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:47 AM
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Especially if you ignore all the hate crimes committed by people who take their worldview way too literally. The redpill runs around like a kid with matches and a flame thrower, because it flunked basic human psychology, and has no idea what people will do if you tell them the social contract is a complete myth. The worst part is that TRP actually believes it, due to its struggles with giving a shit about other people (always too much or too little), and it's favorite echo chamber being hungry f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:14 AM
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Well, yeah. Sure, I said - in the best possible condition to recover her health But after the credits, there was a bonus scene worth sticking around for. I made all of that idiot nonsense up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 02:03 AM
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What I'm saying is that it is very likely that "pedophilia" or what you claimed to have "made up" served as a means of reproducing amongst our species It wasn't nearly as common as you think, and it was only in the context of marriage, where everyone knew she and the family would be provided for. Property was often involved. Or an alliance. Even then, 16 was far more common than 13. Your moral outrage is interesting, however. Don't deny it - your argument is based on emotion, more than solid his…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 01:27 AM
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My hypothesis: Nature does not, of course, function by laws that are created and instituted by any members of a particular species. Nature functions on a principle of multiple possibilities whereupon the "best" possible outcome is the winner. Which is why it was common, throughout most of recorded history, for women to go straight from puberty to motherhood. Think about it - she's young, passionate, and in the best possible condition to recover her health and beauty, in a society not concerned w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:51 PM
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No, that's considered proven science already. A Google search will reveal that many of us give all kinds of bonuses to people we regard as being in our tribe. Here's a question, then - how has mass media distorted that mental tribe? Those who lack real world experience are trained to be familiar with beautiful people - or at least faces with the character they're playing written on them, all properly lit and dressed, being charismatic while delivering the expensive words they've rehearsed. Is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:30 PM
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Yeah, we can totally dismiss warmth. Good job, genius. You deliberately shut off the part of your brain that would allow you to instinctively understand social connections and intuitive decision making. Sure, it's never affected entire civilizations before, except, whoops, it's what built them. And this arrogance is all because people who lived centuries ago, very narrowly defined scientific investigation in such a way that it allowed those with poor social skills to argue that they didn't need …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 10:31 PM
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The next thing I want to get onto, now we’ve got that out of the way, is “Well, fine. But is Evo-Psych right ?” to which the answer is, yes. Pretty much self-evidently and definitionally so as a principle, Except it underestimates our mental flexibility/adaptability in the very premise of the whole thing. Not to mention, the value of basic human warmth. I mean, if we're talking about reasons why people have sex...Those would be a great place to start. But those things all seem to terrify evo psy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 07:36 PM
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I know that PPD is determined to surgically extract any and all romance from the equation, but this is ridiculous. I'm monogamous, she has a wife, and we understand each other, because our love is more than her leash. And she knows better than to ever simply give me to any random women. Compromise rocks. We only want each other's happiness. But you do you. If an occasional choking sensation is all your love means, then who am I to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 01:53 AM
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Depends on the girl and the boy. They're entirely too broad a category. But that was the entire problem - most companies didn't have a single actual girl in mind, when asking that question. Or if they did, that reflects badly on them. There might be a message for other STEM majors in there... Anyways, even looking at this, from the most cynical, reductionist, insultingly sexist way possible... Final Fantasy and Pokemon did a better job of handling shopping, because any shopping accomplishes thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 12:35 AM
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They were. But the problem was that following the American crash, games were repositioned as toys. Toys, which were gender divided. It was ridiculous, at times, the lengths companies would go to avoid female demographics. Many games were simply left in Japan, if they didn't feature enough testosterone for the insecure. Cute things, like Kirby, were suddenly rebranded with angry overcompensation. And games which did reach out to girls? Games with crossover appeal, like the Sims, Pokemon, Final Fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:01 PM
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ultimately a delusion Yes, they're quite delusional. But hey, whatever helps them lower their expectations. At least every surprise will be a pleasant one... assuming they survive long enough to experience any.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:23 PM
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Pessimists tend to regard it as the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:55 PM
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Sure! We can talk about how he failed, where me, nowhere near as good looking, succeeded. But I need to know, are you just oblivious to what that picture represents, or playing stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:19 PM
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Depends how you take it. It works great as a roadmap for the subjective opinions of the right, and any folks who share their tendencies towards conflict narratives, in-group bias, and a preference for a strict hierarchy along traditional paths. All that projection is invaluable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:40 PM
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The idea is that people follow the path of least resistance. It's not an idea, so much as a confession that too many cynics are just rebranded pessimists. Their fear of hope is cute, in a feral kitten kind of a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:36 PM
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I can assure you normal people are very much weirded out by people that can't conceptually digest SMV1-10. They're even more weirded out when you grade their ratings like homework. The incels at /r/truerateme proved that. insults At least you're slightly creative about it. And he was talking about how they would say "draw a house" and everyone draws a box with two windows and a roof. Except for the kids who draw a haunted house, because they have a functioning sense of humor, and an imagination.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:13 PM
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That's called "Good communication" and "Being fun to be around". Men enjoy it too. But I can understand why you'd need to simplify around the women you're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:03 PM
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Sure! Just watch. I predict that a family with lean and narrow faces will instantly give a familiarity boost to them, over other faces which may face an outgroup bias. Ditto heart shaped faces, and so on. It's an estimate, not an absolute. But it's easy to make, because it's a basic part of subjective attraction, and affects most people on the planet - outside outliers at either end of the scale. It's something your ridiculous attempt to create an objective 1-10 scale doesn't account for. So, wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:01 PM
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I learned the hard way, that being a man who didn't talk down to women in a condescending, paternal way? It really paid off for me. What lessons was I supposed to learn, instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:48 PM
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It disappeared even before you deleted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:46 PM
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Actually averaging faces creates a high attractiveness composite Oh good, I won't need to explain that part, at least. Now, why don't you tell me which deviations are worse than others? And if you can conjure up a world where exposure/familiarity won't influence the results?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:45 PM
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Oh, look - a 25% thread feedback rating, in a place that's redpill friendly and bans downvotes. And the mods deleted you from the feed for writing a ridiculous circle jerk. Maybe I was too quick to dismiss the wisdom of the crowds? It's hard to do what you just did, in a subreddit where you're allowed to negatively stereotype other people, as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:43 PM
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Now, I want you to stereotype an average face. You know, if you blurred every face into a single face, overall. How does it rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:39 PM
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I like how you pretend 1-10 scales from the redpill - or most people, in general, are formulated with all of this in mind. Human psychology doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:35 PM
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Like jesus, even I know when a male friend is good looking. Beyond facial symmetry, build, and a basic grasp of the color wheel? Because anyone can observe the extreme ends of what's considered attractive/not attractive. How do you count a few laugh lines vs. a not yet completely formed fresh face? How about wide eyes vs. narrow? What you're saying still shows there is a strong preference for two groups of people No, you divided it up into two groups of people. Group one competes for "weird 5(th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:31 PM
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The one where everyone roughly agrees on looks, on a scale of 1 to 10. It immediately turns into an argument over whether challenging gender conformity is hot or not, whether or not Redpill men can detect masculinity as an abstract concept or not (usually not), whether fake boobs cost points, how attractive ethnic features are, and can pudge be cute? Arguments over style and favorite personality traits that shine through... As OKCupid predicts, the more disagreement over looks, the more passiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:59 PM
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Then you should read every single thread where PPD failed, spectacularly, to prove that theory correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:52 PM
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IN MY OPINION Blue pillers lack abstraction abilities like approximating Is that why TRPers are so offended whenever we use a pessimistic heuristic to guide our interactions with them? reading subtext The more subtext I use, the more lost in their own minds they become. And aren't they the ones who need to be taught how to read an opportunity? or even understanding simple observations. Okay, now I know you're trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 04:44 PM
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They're poly. Her wife introduced us. Not that it was always easy... I value the trust I've been given.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 03:41 PM
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My theory is that the people who came up with that definition are to law, what "I only use command line Linux" are to computers. There's probably a more accurate metaphor, but it's the closest I can think of, for something that's technically sound but useless to many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:01 PM
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That's why more people are trying to use "forced penetration", but it's not exactly the most natural sounding term.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:45 PM
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Unfortunately, "rape by envelopment" is a recent linguistic development. The first instance I've ever seen of it, was an intersectional feminist complaining that penetration, under any context, made the woman seem a passive receiver - she wanted a verb that captured the aggression. From there, it was picked up by the manosphere, and caught on like wildfire. It is a really good term, after all. Nobody can possibly object, unless they're pure evil or a troll. Pictured: Pure evil or a troll. But no…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:38 PM
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For the first time ever, the new definition includes any gender of victim and perpetrator, not just women being raped by men. You assumed the victim was the one being penetrated. Sure, the definition could be more clearly written, but - READ. If your response doesn't deal with reality, I'm just going to mock you and then ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:14 PM
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Which country do you live in? Because here in America, state law and FBI statistics count any penetration without consent. That includes the consent of the one being forced to penetrate. The CDC's opinions have no bearing on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:06 PM
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Just ask the redpill, since they're all about doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:42 PM
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The expectation is masculine gender policing. I've never met a feminist on Reddit who argues it's not rape, but I've met plenty of conservative women and alt-right edgelords willing to make that bold stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 12:41 PM
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It's kind of adorable that you think Japanese women have no options when facing herbivore men. Since most people on PPD can't speak Japanese without a translator (including me), simply try to guess what the stock photo is referring to. It's not hard. Those worth snatching up still aren't safe. The rest...nobody will miss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 11:12 AM
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I'm curious - what would happen if you did everything in your power to be what other people are looking for, and flirted like the devil, while still winning a good reputation? Do you really believe no woman will ever make a first move? If so, why are you hanging around the most boring people on the planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 09:37 AM
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Here. Biology includes the brain. I'm not sure why your studies neglected it, but feel free to try to distract from the issue in the usual ways. May I suggest ignoring the issue of his inner identity, and pretending his case describes all sex change operations? It's dishonest, but you could win the emotional argument for those who might have otherwise been swayed by logic, and need another excuse to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:49 AM
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No, I understand. When having two X chromosomes is your only claim to moral superiority, you've got to cling tight to the vanishing traditions of the past. It just that not everyone shares your faith. I'll stick to medical reality, where gender identity was long ago proven to be innate. Besides, your last few posts to me have been kind of focused on other people's genitals. Try to see the rest of us for a change, if you're able. It's just a basic common courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:31 AM
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Do you know any couples like this IRL who have a love like in The Notebook or The Choice? My mom and my dad. My girlfriend and her wife. I have good reason to believe her when she says there's no escape from her love. What do you mean by this? If someone can't keep the fires of romantic love always lit by themselves? If passion is sometimes flickering? And you fall out of love with them, because of it? Your love was only ever as deep as the kind you can get from drinking too much. If your love i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 01:18 AM
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Early on, he gets laughs by just describing what most of the redpill actually believes. Without moderators there to protect the alt-right's hurt feelings, it's pretty brutal. Unfortunately, he has no idea what an incel is. He tries to make sense of their rambling, and concludes they're just proud to be virgins. Which is completely true, but technically incorrect when it comes to the dictionary definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 12:12 AM
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He begins with a straight forward description of how the redpill sees the audience. That's enough to have the audience laughing their asses off right there. To them, these "truth bombs" sounds like the ravings of a junior high lockeroom, or a terrible Matrix fanfiction. Now the audience is curious to see the wild monkeys flinging shit and jerking off in the internet zoo. It's a freak show without the guilt. Unfortunately, he loses his way around 5 minutes in. The incels movement isn't supposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 09:49 PM
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The fetusphere is separate from the manosphere. It only borrows the rough outline of a rage post about AWALT, as an excuse to give up and troll other people for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 08:00 PM
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Those women, too. They're just as likely to police other women, while mocking shy/inexperienced men. The whole thing runs on exploitation, hypocrisy, and shame...but it's a team effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:04 PM
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No, it's always been. This is actually way more moderate than it was when I only lurked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:43 PM
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Are you going to ask the same question to LittleKnownFacts, or is she invisible, suddenly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:42 PM
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Not sure why you're trying to claim that any of these people, represent anything the average cis-man needs to worry about. Or why you're hiring Butt-Factory to represent all women, instead of say, Demon Consulting. Your paranoia's getting the better of you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:40 PM
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I know it's terrible to say Nah, the terrible part's only if you cling tight as possible to those first instincts and try to make their lives all the worse for it. Nobody'll care if they're still a massive turn-off for you, unless they're an asshole with serious control issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:38 PM
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She.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:32 PM
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Wasn't talking about rape rainbows. Nor was I. Let's stick to the good options.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:36 PM
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Let's finish this one off, first. It's rare we get anything this ridiculous to play around with. Career women are insecure. Just curious - are people incapable of enjoying their careers, on your planet? No feeling of personal satisfaction, at least? They don't even enjoy spending their paychecks? Christ, it must suck. No wonder why you'd want to escape from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:22 PM
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Some people never fall out of the honeymoon phase. It's rare, but it happens. Counting on it is like demanding that your girlfriend be able to do calculus in her head. It's rare, but it happens. Seriously, neither one is more romantic than the other. Many couples need to relight the torch from time to time. If you insist on a fairy tale happening before it's true love, you're more in love with being in love, than you are with your partner. You're better off marrying The Notebook. You might have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:15 PM
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Never Look up Limerence, or the Honeymoon phase. Don't take cynics too seriously - they're way too guarded for that kind of fun. Yes, it happens. But it's dangerous. It's a natural high, and an addiction. And when it vanishes, people who don't belong together can turn mean and petty. Or just die inside, together.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:04 PM
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That whole wooing a lady by delivering a dramatic speech bullshit. Do you know anyone who's actually succeeded IRL by doing this? Sure. We were attracted to each other, but had no idea it was mutual. She was autistic, I was determined to be the most repressed human being on the planet. I was single, she was poly - but hadn't told me because it never came up. Etc. I made a dramatic speech apologizing for being attracted to her. She laughed her ass off and told me I belonged to her now. It was my …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 12:00 PM
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There's an entire rainbow of options between rape and "Bitches pay their dues here on Sesame Street!" See if you can guess a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 11:36 AM
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So teach women too. And besides, we've already seen some really fucked up people on PPD, in the 21st century, claim that people who suffer from tonic immobility are enthusiastic sex partners who totally enjoyed their surprise party. Some of those same folks confuse BDSM for sexual abuse. Apparently, informed consent is really difficult for some folks. Best to run a remedial class for the slow learners, so that they have one less excuse to ruin other people's lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 11:14 AM
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THEY ARE STILL MEN! Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:56 AM
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The second's a great summary of what you can expect when you hide your personality, and pretend it's the fault of 100 women for not being attracted to you on the deepest possible level. Also, anyone want to lay bets he mostly only chased after young women and older teens, after reading about their maturity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:52 AM
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Eh- half the pictures of Chad Thundercock posted here are too feminine for the women who post most often. It's not like this is the most diverse crowd ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:41 AM
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I predict the blackpill prematurely adopts them all, and Atlas never forgives you. Also, PPD congratulates itself on defeating yet another preference it doesn't approve of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:09 AM
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I said nothing except she's in charge, and that she's helped me face my sexual assault PTSD. It's all relevant when talking about gender roles, and some people can't past the kink part of it. If you can't handle an adult conversation, you really don't belong here. Nobody can be held responsible if you're still not able to keep your mind out of the gutter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 05:33 AM
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any other talk is just fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:36 AM
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A therapist saying that you need a lot of therapy. Who would've thought... Next we'll see doctors recommending surgery!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:26 PM
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I can't relate to those kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:24 PM
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Bingo. Ask u/trail22 about how he takes things to the next level. Bluepill, redpill, no pills, he's got to be doing something, right? From what I've seen, I get the feeling he doesn't know how to read people beyond friendship. And he can't create any chemistry. Without an instant and overwhelming interest, I'm not sure how he'd pick up on any chances that might be available to him. I hope he proves me wrong, but...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:17 PM
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Since when did women make good mothers? Unless there are 10 witnesses and Jesus Christ himself saying the girl was raped, I don't believe the stories. Safe bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:09 PM
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See, the thing of it is, I've endured horror stories. I know life isn't a fairy tale...and yes, once I fought that knowledge every step of the way. But my horror stories were usually about mistakes I made with good people...or else about the other kind of people who would lie to get close. And feeling very alone even while sleeping next to a warm body. And of course, that other thing. It seems so odd that a simple four letter word triggers so many people who mock trigger words, but ask yourself …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:53 PM
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Because I used to be a trainwreck who hated myself, and sabotaged myself, until some good and stubborn as Hell people decided I wasn't going to fall through the cracks. I still don't know why. But I intend for it to mean something. So, when I see someone where I used to be, over there? And this is the kind of help that sick little death cult provides? It's not going to go unchallenged. I don't care how many of us they ban.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:04 PM
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I can't imagine what it takes to get on a subreddit to actively insult people worse-looking, Mostly we think they have dysphoria, because they're mostly average. Some are even conventionally attractive. with worse upbringings As someone who was also abused, I'm not going to use that as an excuse to spread hate. Do you want to try again? because they're gasp venting frustration on an online forum. They encourage suicide, and openly applaud a killer as a martyr. Have a conscience. And as far as th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:35 PM
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I'm saying that the judgement came first. Remember? If you need to read the thread, take your time. I took the judgment personally, since I was being judged. I also explained why my experiences didn't match what I was being told. If you have a serious issue with that...why? Gag reflex? Politically incorrect to the right? You guys fight for men to tell our stories. You ask that men stop behaving like spineless little jellyfish trying to suck up to women. How about you act like you actually mean i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:24 PM
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Right, nobody's ever seen a fake feminist. Dark triads who pretend to understand someone, tell her she can share everything, without judgement, and they promise a fairy tale that'll last forever? They don't exist in the manosphere, because that's not what men want to see in their porn. Did you have any other common types we're not allowed to see, due to right wing political correctness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:21 PM
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It's Reddit. I just pissed off a ridiculous amount of men and women just by letting them know I'm a male sub in a happy relationship - and it's not as rare as they want everyone to believe. I've also watched them defend all kinds of attacks on the kind of people who are close to me - people I care about. I'm worried sick about my trans friends, if they can convince more people to start being more afraid, and being more angry. And stop thinking. You seem decent, but you're in a good place, where …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:15 PM
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We do not need to hear y It's not like I enjoy talking about my private life around these parts. When you tire of spreading your favorite far right talking points? Because you just can't stand the thought of little boys not being raised to solve every little girl's unresolved daddy issues? When you get over your gag reflex, and can behave like an adult again? I'll be happy to stop correcting the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:59 PM
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If everyone on TRP took all the worst of it the way you do, I wouldn't worry. But all I've got to do, is watch how many men, exposed to the redpill, seriously believe that there's no such thing as love. And how many don't stick to the approved talking points about AWALT being a heuristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:26 PM
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I edited my post to remove details, because...really, I don't like talking about my private life like it's computer programming. Sorry that your post doesn't really make any sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:21 PM
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It's the editorial about how they all totally deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:09 PM
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Someone finally speaking common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:01 PM
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I've hung out with tortured forever alone pretty boys. They're usually shit at filtering out people who just want to get in their pants, or who fell in love with falling in love. It hurts to have your heart torn out. Others were idiots who couldn't find fireworks on the 4th of July.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:00 PM
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You're imagining camp femininity, and the toxic brands. But the virtues are rare, and men demonstrating them? We get bonus points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:57 PM
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I'm not likely to be in trouble for hate speech anytime soon, unless I'm judged by hyper-sensitive alt-righters trying to pass off mocking them as a hate crime against men. But it's already a joke enough that they're trying to represent stoic masculinity while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:32 PM
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There's a difference between someone voicing genuine pain, and another posting in ways calculated to make the wounds worse. Especially if the second hopes to exploit that pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:29 PM
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And if you say shitty things in an effort to exploit the pain of lonely and wounded men, and generate organized political action - which TRP does - some of which is very detrimental to the groups you hate? And. If your goal is to convince more men to give psychological abuse a fair shake? Tell me - are all the men posting on TRP living in countries where none of the content they've posted on TRP would count as hate speech?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:26 PM
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"I'm just sayin', African American communities know each other best. So what does it say, when they're the ones shooting each other the most?" "I'm just sayin', even men can't stand each other. Why do you think the number one killer of men, is men? What do they know, that women don't? Hmm? So many killing themselves too. Suicide is probably bros watching out for each other - he's just saving another man the time." Nope, all sounds like hate to me, and pretending that using proper nouns changes e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:19 PM
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Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender Now, I want you to set your hamsters loose, and allow them to actually defend the post I linked. Use your best cherry picking, and spin everything into a pile of shit that even a 7 year old would be insulted by. I know you can do it. I'm counting on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:13 PM
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Actually, you're talking about the American Supreme Court's view on what hate speech is legally protected, and which isn't. This doesn't mean that you need an overt threat for it to be considered hate speech. Just try shouting "Fucking nigger is ruining the country!" at some random black guy, and arguing that nobody can call it hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:06 PM
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Vicious, hateful words are not Hate Speech. I'll let you think over the Kafka-esque nonsense you just wrote, while you argue with the dictionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:03 PM
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Dehumanizing speech designed to ignite intense negative emotions, and push someone into the outgroup. Claiming that battered/murdered women probably deserved it? More than qualifies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:55 PM
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So, we grading TRP on a curve now? Looks like hate to me, but I can see why some people might be too numb to recognize it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:57 PM
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If only every red flare were so egalitarian. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:03 PM
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Some folks really are redpill. If she wants a masculine guy and an instant attraction, more power to her - at least she's not claiming to represent every woman on the planet. I'm just wondering why she's confused herself with a redpill man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:53 PM
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Yes, that's why being a domineering piece of shit is different from any kind of healthy dominance. The more power he loses, the more he's forced to roleplay, often undercutting any allies who might have helped him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:10 PM
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I miss the good old days, when there was always another lynching, or riot. You know, the days when men could be men, and go die in a war that nobody knew what for. And women could be women, and keep their opinions to themselves, until such time as good men who didn't wash their hands delivered their children into the world. There were a lot of diseases, back in those days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:06 PM
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What's really weird about this time is that he's trying to shame everyone who enjoys technology. At all. He made sure to include women. But he's doing this through the internet. Also, some of us are in long distance relationships, because this is the 21st century. If I listened to his advice, we'd never have met face to face or had any "outside adventures" time together. What year was he born in?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:59 PM
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No, I am saying prioritisation of time and investment in your partner is more important, and most women agree. Agreed. Now, back to the part where your wife represents every woman? Can you explain how that works? Because you're insisting that everything that doesn't work like your marriage is a sign of an unhealthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:37 PM
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Destroyed every GOP candidate who ran against him, and had cable news giving him free advertising. Even now, he commands a loyal following who refuse to deal with reality. That's dominance, even if he brings nothing else to the table. Which, as it turned out, he didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:35 PM
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Good to hear. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:30 PM
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So, you're describing the addiction of limerence as a state which should continue into every free minute of every single day. And it should take priority over any of us having fun together, unless it's on your terms. That's kind of childish, really. Your worldview sounds like a world weary 16 year old. Come back when you've had the chance to get over the novelty of being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:17 PM
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Guys who are willing to be proper dominant are low in supply and high in demand. My first exposure to Gor was watching some boyfriends desperate to escape their demanding slave harems. It was educational. How long did it take you to become comfortable with dominance? Is it something you'd still pursue for yourself, if it wasn't so popular?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:12 PM
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You're talking about a job that requires emotional intelligence. If they lack the basic instincts for building strong alliances, or inspiring the country? If they need everything spelled out in a way /r/incels can relate to? They're not qualified.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:01 PM
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First is the fact that in the 20-24 age range, there is a massive disparity between the amount of men that have had vaginal sex in the past year, versus the amount of women. This will come as no shock to those watching young men sabotage themselves. The redpill is not supposed to sound like a 4chan image board...in public. The bluepill isn't an excuse to starfish your way through meeting people. The blackpill is just excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 11:57 AM
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Who wants to be normal? We're all what works best for us. Besides, /r/incels tells me I'm incredibly normal. Who am I to argue with their wisdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:00 AM
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Yes, it's a stupid comparison that just describes the exact same dynamic that's at play whenever an outgroup wants to make inroads. Using people you know. I could have used Magneto and Professor X, but then we'd be looking at "Kill all the normies" vs. "Forgive them for the sentinels, because Marvel has lost control of this parable." Would you prefer gay pride parades vs. LGBT couples as a whole? Because that would require me to be way, way, more descriptive than I'm prepared to ever go. Also ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:40 AM
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Please do. We may not agree on much, but I will have your back on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:31 AM
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Obviously, the stakes here are nowhere near as important, but lessons can be learned. Try again, but without your cock in your mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:29 AM
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Hmm...can you link me to an example? I'm not questioning whether it happens - I had a bad experience, once. But I don't like when it happens. The "BDSM is abuse" jerk is more dangerous than the "All PIV is rape" insanity, because enough people take it seriously that it could send us all back into hiding, one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:27 AM
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Aside from imagining a questioning woman who rarely asks questions, or someone who just eats blackpills for breakfast... ... Yeah, PPD just attracts certain types, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 09:20 AM
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Sure but all you're doing is lowering yourself to their level. Yeah, but it entertains my girlfriend. She's what keeps me able to deal with all the crap. I don't know if you've noticed, but us sensitives aren't exactly common around here. And the place goes out of its way to be inhospitable. Also, it's the only way I can get a good conversation started. I've tried going for civil and high minded, and basically, it's all us sensible folk agreeing with each other. Which is fine - seriously, it's g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:53 AM
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It really didn't, most of the replies are perfectly civil and answering your question. When I wrote that, the top voted reply was focused on sexually dominant women being nearly extinct, and my response that they weren't as rare as advertised? I was accused of pulling that out of my ass. Another top voted reply assured me that submissive men are disgusting. That shit isn't exactly new. "Atypical" how? I do BDSM stuff cuz it's fun and I'm still here. You play Dom, and you grew to enjoy it. They'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:36 AM
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Because the rules allow me to do so, and it's a great catharsis after spending the entire day reading nonsense about 99% of women wanting to be dominated by Chad Thundercock. Or assured any experiences to the contrary make me a liar. Or straight up being called a disgusting beta cuck who hates men. I'm really not feeling a lot of warmth from the opposition, is what I'm saying. And since their reasons for attacking are either bad faith, emotionally based, or moral shaming? Why not judge back? Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:31 AM
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You'd be amazed how many tradcon women can play super submissive while dominating their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 07:00 AM
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I don't think it's possible to quantify who could possibly be "the most talented man" for any position. How would you even begin to measure that? For one thing, they wouldn't throw a tantrum when people don't let them gut the social safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:50 AM
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Not sure how it's difficult. It's ridiculous to count being a sadomasochistic switch against a dominant woman Most people demand Domme purity before they'll count a woman as dominant. This is stupid. while counting dominant behavior as submissive if she's careful to shame anyone who dares challenge her submissive side. Submissives who act like domineering assholes are terrifyingly common. Those who allow women to do so, and still count that as being submissive? They are brain damaged. Most trad …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:48 AM
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a lot of bad pairings are "sub sub" I've been there. We get along amazing in every single way except the bedroom. Nothing turns off a pure sub like another pure sub - I mean, complete and utter shutdown. Nothing about their body registers as the least bit sexual. And I can't explain it - I'm thrilled to Dom people I like, outside of the bedroom, if they need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:45 AM
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The redpill's a backlash? Is that why they're doubling down on tradcon roleplay, or seeking validation from being a dark triad fucktoy? Please. The men who really rebel, look at what's best for them and those they care about, instead of trying to crush their individuality and spin it as a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:30 AM
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Edit: You really forgot already?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:19 AM
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You seem eager to shame men who followed that advice. Not much for consistency, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:13 AM
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I'll agree with almost nothing else he says, but he's right on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:09 AM
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We all know that people suffer from all sorts of internal biases, so any opinion formed is going to be heavily slanted by what you want to believe, your emotions and your conscience. Quoted for the near self-awareness. Now, repeat the part where you think my girlfriend is abusing me, just because I prefer to follow her lead. If you can, be condescending - like you're talking to a helpless baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:08 AM
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You're disgusted by what I needed in order to face my sexual assault/fundamentalist abuse trauma. You think that it's only a bedroom thing, because the guys who'd make terrible subs never shut up about proving it. Okay, thanks for sharing. At least it's not as bad as the idiot who thinks she's abusing me. But it all saved my life, once I let the right one in. It was difficult - so very difficult - for me to get past the judgment I was raised with. So thanks for sharing your gag reflex. I'm sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:33 AM
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A sane person! Please tell me you brought an army!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:16 AM
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Good. Then you're capable of understanding that I find your disgust disgusting. :D And you can stop trying to defend the way you made a public scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:02 AM
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Explain my support of vanilla egalitarians? And this is despite one of them trying to rescue me earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 02:03 AM
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Until they discover that the reality of those ideals might not line up with their plans. Then they torture reality trying to make themselves the hero of the story, or give up and embrace their supposed badassery. They also tend to compare notes on the internet, and go off into weird dimensions while rationalizing their wants and emotional needs as "Most logical".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:57 AM
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Hating hate isn't the same as hating people. Judging the judgmental for their poor judgment? Well, I'm sure your pattern recognition has kicked in. Feel free to torture logic in a way to rationalize your ridiculous gag reflex, if you must. Fortunately, the world doesn't revolve around your turn-ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:50 AM
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It means they can lead or follow, despite being incredibly inflexible. They have some incredible leadership skills, while lacking in others. They also can make great followers, despite being horrible at following, in other ways. They're just...INTJ. You know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:39 AM
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Allow me to patronize you with my incredibly fucked up worldview. No thanks. Well, this explains why some people hate "white knights."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:32 AM
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The dominants I've met tend to fall into a couple of groups. She knows what she's doing, and can mentor/guide those who don't. This type is often likely to be promoted to her position. She's a dark triad train wreck who can't handle anyone else. INTJ. Just INTJ. They know what they want, and heaven help you, if you aren't part of the plan. Power kink. A power imbalance just works for her. It doesn't matter whether she's the one with the power over someone she's attracted to, or she's the one ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 01:10 AM
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My point was, you overestimate the ability of power to change reality. The submissive needs to surrender that power, and unless they're young and innocent - or just very gullible all around - they're very careful about doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:48 AM
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Supposed to be about everywhere. But it immediately turned into "Sexually dominant women are a myth!" and "Ew, submissive men are the worst. Also, they're all hypocrites." Really should have expected it, but this shitshow explains why nearly all atypical couples avoid this place like the plague. (Then again, that's all part of the design, or they wouldn't allow bigots to rant about their favorite prejudices so long as they don't name any names.)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:45 AM
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Cause one wants to. You mean you two do. And...? More dominance means more control over your life Which is great, by the way. She's helped me grow in so many ways. and your reality. Snorts. If she contradicted reality, she'd be just another face in the crowd. You're confusing submission for being livestock. We're a couple, by mutual choice. And we enjoy it on our terms, not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:38 AM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:30 AM
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Thanks for being the only person to actually answer the question in good faith, instead of being offended any of this was asked at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:26 AM
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I disagree that it's "overrated" though. I only said it's overrated by itself. Trump, for example, is very dominant. Would you call him respected, or the most talented man we could have in that position?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:25 AM
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My girlfriend is dominant in our relationship, because I welcome her leadership and guidance. My ex was domineering, because if I questioned her at all, abuse followed. Do you see the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:22 AM
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Negative. That's not how humans human. You're describing cartoon characters. They tend to be much more two dimensional. Or at least, they used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:20 AM
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well the problem is even beta men want respect and become worn down by a "dominant" woman Respecting your partner is just part of a healthy relationship. Most women don't want a dominant man who psychologically abuses them to get what he wants, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:18 AM
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Nah, I'm just saying that it's complicated. It's ridiculous to count being a sadomasochistic switch against a dominant woman, while counting dominant behavior as submissive if she's careful to shame anyone who dares challenge her submissive side. It's like when we claim biracial means black, and bisexual means gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:13 AM
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I'm happy to judge her. Also you. I'm just not sure why I should judge people for acts of consensual sex that make them both happy? I'm also not sure why I'd want to be thought dominant, when I've already said I'm submissive leaning. Feel free to explain. I could use the entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:10 AM
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No, I observe. I've watched lonely men hit on my forever alone friends - friends I know were suffering - and then those men would self-destruct and take themselves out of the game. I've watched men hit on my mom, while I was growing up, and refuse to wait for sex. You. Believe. Everything. Those. Fuck-ups. Would. Have. Told. You. And while I know you're reaching for the "I know you are, but what am I?", I need to only look at how happy my friends who waited are vs. those who believed every fairy…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:08 AM
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Truly exclusive dominant women are rare. Then again, most dominant women regard a dominant man losing control as her win. Just like we'd need to knock pure submissives off the list, who can order their partner to man up and dominate her in exactly the way she prefers. While she promises zero support if he doesn't obey her wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 12:00 AM
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So what? Fair point. Petty minds are best ignored. I'll strive to do so. It's just that they're more disgusting than we'll ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:55 PM
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Depends. I'm shy when I'm around uninhibited extroverts and extroverted and not completely inhibited around the shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:43 PM
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And others are happy with being led, even outside of the bedroom. disgusting fantasy Not that I expect you to be neutral. You're as judgmental about other people's love lives as the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:39 PM
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I only said dominant women weren't as rare as the checkerboard pharmacy claims - I've heard 1% or less. Never claimed they were were the majority of switches in monogamous relationships. That would be madness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:29 PM
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If dominant guy #1 secretly like getting pegged in the bedroom and dominant guy #2 finds out about it, dominant guy #2 will likely take dominant guy #1 a lot less seriously Not being taken seriously is a great way to sneak up on your rivals. But yeah, fakes are desperate for everyone's approval. know BPers love contrarians fairly tales where all socially dominant guys are secret cucks Cuckold fantasy seems to be more of redpill/blackfill thing. The average bluepiller can tell the difference betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:25 PM
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And I'm a ridiculously confrontational submissive leaning switch who can confirm everything you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:17 PM
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It's not men's fault that women decide to devalue men wanting to be with them. You mean use them for sex. Let's not ignore the part where no strings is unlikely to be what she wants, and many women don't even get an orgasm out of it. Just being used for sex made me feel like complete shit, and lonelier than ever. You're confusing what you want, for what other people need. support network solves mental health problems Didn't cure mine. Now what? There are TONS of men who would LOVE to be companio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:15 PM
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Yes, I already know you believe that. Meanwhile, for those actually curious about dominance in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:01 PM
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Not nearly as rare as advertised. Many submissives have a dominant streak, and switches are common. But with that said, it really depends on the dominant woman. Don't romanticize it. Being in a relationship with the worst types, is a quick way to become familiar with what real gaslighting feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:51 PM
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The part where you think "Being used like a fleshlight" makes you less lonely, and cures depression. Or the part where social anxiety can be cured over the internet, or simply by lust alone. What the hell is wrong with you? Edit: It's the lack of empathy common to evil AI and serial killers in direct to Blockbuster shelves movies from the 90's, not so much ordinary human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:38 PM
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This entire thread. I really don't care what sleazy bullshit you need to do to rationalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 09:02 PM
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Listen to the story of his first date, sometime. All he had to do to get one was talk to the first woman he saw sitting by herself. All he had to do to wreck it was obsess over only being one inch taller than her, take every joke personally, and not flirt. At all. You'll wish you could reach through the screen and strangle him. Or give him a hug. Either one. He can talk about shared interests easy enough, but the rest was just pure agony.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:53 PM
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I wish we had more couples here. I'm just happy many of our SOs are as accepting as they are...minus those who have to hide what they're doing online. But they're full of it, anyways, and really deserve to be busted.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:38 PM
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It is never going to be how it was with C, that will never happen again in all probability, but I will give it a go with someone else. Please give it all a fair chance. Things may never feel exactly the same, but they can be many different kinds of good, in time. I found my best relationship, long after I broke up with the first woman I had ever hoped to spend forever with. It wasn't her fault - she did everything right, and I still love her to this day, but it just wasn't in the cards. I wasn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:28 PM
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I'm bluepill and I'd like to see you get a no bullshit answer. Especially since a guilty verdict isn't always proof of guilt, committing a crime isn't always the same as being a horrible person*, and photographing men's laps when there's nobody sitting anywhere near them? The photographer should be arrested. It's just creepy as Hell, and only exists to encourage harassment. *Although there's more than a little overlap, depending on the crime committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 08:09 PM
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death threats Feel free to name names and provide proof. They'll be taken care of. Meanwhile, you're not exactly coming off as a neutral observer. And don't bother with the "I know you are, but what am I?" You're the one running a sub that encourages suicide while calling bullshit on advice that's worked for millions of the socially awkward, no matter what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:47 PM
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Ignores any plot holes in /r/incels narrative, demands to know why we don't sit down and enjoy the ride. So much for your own personal ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:23 PM
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You never drop the act, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:59 PM
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They see relationships as a cold war conflict, and the thought of trusting the enemy terrifies them. Anyone who does so naturally, must be either an innocent or a traitor. It's why they rationalize using dark triad methods instead. It's all like a lot of other worldviews fueled by a reactionary conspiracy theory at their heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:10 PM
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Nah, it's a political dodge. Those with a guilty conscience will breathe a sigh of relief, while fooling nobody else again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:04 PM
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Mostly, over in /r/inceltears, we tell the little divas that they aren't as hideous as they claim to be. And cheer on any hint of positive behavior. Pity about the crab bucket. There's so many shitty personalities tearing the rest down. But that's what happens when you're there to make excuses for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 08:00 PM
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Yes. For presenting "refutations" that have been debunked time and time again Like the one where he didn't get nearly as many offers as hard passes, or the one where "the child molester" was convicted of statutory with someone just a few weeks shy of legal? I wonder why some young women were willing to forgive him? Yeah, they sounded like they really connected that with "pedophile". /s You guys were completely full of shit, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 07:57 PM
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We're not. We're talking about yours. You refuse to deal with the scars of past racism. You don't care about helping anyone confront their prejudice against other groups through direct exposure. You don't care about helping people escape traps that pull others down, and giving back to their community. You care about small differences in test taking ability and a grade point average, that may not be applicable to the real world. And you pretend other options aren't available for those who can't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 07:49 PM
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Your own experience doesn't describe how he's treating the rest of us. He's using your credibility to give him an opportunity he immediately abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:58 PM
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whining, and a continued lack of substantive debate You seem to have the self-pity well in hand. I'll leave you to it, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:43 PM
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Your complete dismissal of the risks vs. platonic friendships just proves you're not actually here to debate in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:26 PM
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Risk of pregnancy? That's what The Pill is for. Especially if you're a guy who doesn't need to deal with the negative side effects. STDs? They can all be avoided with condoms, or managed. You're all heart. Emotional attachment? Yes, it's a thing that exists, and your strawman isn't helping your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:16 PM
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Their new approach is to poison anyone worried about looks. No reason why they can't convince more women to hate a mirror too. And they'd love to convince as many people as possible that being attracted to someone's personality (strong, confident, understanding, funny, smart, dominant/submissive, etc.) is a sign of delusion/personal failure. Essentially, they want the blackpill to be the default cynical response, when talking about human behavior. They're after respectability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:08 PM
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It ties into what they're doing with /r/truerateme. Having finally realized that they're seen as a joke, they're trying to rebrand. They can't win peer review, but they can prey on people's trust and sympathy, or their fears and insecurity. It worked for "The Southern Strategy", after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:00 PM
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integrity and class So far, he's claimed /r/incels doesn't censor anyone's opinions, despite instantly banning everyone who offends them, and used the "I hate niggers, not black people." defense on "Roasties." - despite a clear pattern of hate against all women. He then claims, that their bitter little hate group represents the most accurate view of women's psychology. He exploited your trust. Are you going to do anything about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:45 PM
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He's already lying his ass off. /r/incels is one of the ban happiest subreddits around, but he claims it's an intellectual oasis that welcomes any and all controversial opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:32 PM
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It's part of their rebranding effort. Lookism is now "Honest constructive feedback." "Roastie" is apparently about condemning bad behavior. /r/incels is supposedly a freewheeling intellectual utopia. It's all so completely in bad faith, that I can't believe the mods are allowing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:18 PM
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It's not that incels hate women for being women. It's that incels dislike many things women do. And if a good reason isn't provided, they'll simply make-up one. Or demonize what was perfectly reasonable behavior. Even the Klan is better at hiding what it really stands for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:13 PM
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I've experienced everything you have, and it won't make the slightest difference. For what it's worth, some of them really do have genuine horror stories to tell. When you don't feel safe opening up, it doesn't matter whether or not you're the minority experience. Especially if you've found a subreddit where it's one of the most common shared experiences. Yeah, it's all self-selection, but analytical logic won't help them deal with all the emotions they've bottled in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 02:01 PM
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a lot of insight about female (and male!) psychology comes from "free thinking" spaces like Incels, This is such a deliberately bullshit answer, that it alone should have shut down this shit show. where people can say controversial things without getting instabanned Until /u/azavii rescues /r/incels once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:55 PM
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It was. But it turns out all they needed to do, was just play stupid about their subreddit's content, and be really polite about insulting our intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:47 PM
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Butt-Factory is talking about /r/incels. Any of us who've been in sexually active looks mismatched relationships, where she had the advantage, can expect to be dismissed as liars unless we dox ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:31 PM
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Men usually aren't given unsolicited visual compliments. Unless you're an extreme outlier, or hang out with people who have zero tact, most women assume we'd find them as annoying as they do. Right now, looking at you like a casting director, you could pass as an indie wrestler beginning to bulk up before making a serious run at the WWE, or a soldier asked by the local news for their opinion on news stories way above their pay grade. In other words, facially and body wise, you're what many avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 12:03 PM
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That's only because of how available attention from men is to them. Does a heroin addict respond to a shot of heroin when they're already at their peak high levels and would OD if they had more? If men withdrew attention and treated women cold and poorly (Edit: or just with sensible levels of enthusiasm), all of a sudden, men hitting on them would have more value. Same with guys who have a lot of girls easily, they don't respond as favorably with a random girl hitting on them This may be the fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 08:02 PM
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It's happened to me enough times to seem worth talking about..... It happens for some people, and not for others. Usually, both sides call each other names, because there's nothing humanity can't get tribal about when claiming to represent "true love". (Or "true lust". Whichever.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:53 PM
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I'm speaking about the instances where you see someone that you feel drawn to, and stop whatever you're doing just to look at them because there's just something about them that is causing you to be unable to stop looking at them. Doesn't happen. Can't relate to this at all, except that it's helping me understand some people we've booted out of the chatroom. Also, a lot of really shitty relationships between people who are a terrible match for each other. Edit: And some random and ridiculously p…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:26 PM
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Cause and effect relationships dictate what people do. They feel something after seeing someone, No, seriously, many of us don't. The idea is completely alien. It's why demisexual is such a useful word. It helps people who are looking for no strings with complete strangers avoid wasting everyone's time. I was talking about someone who is bland and indistinct. The more I see someone, the less bland and indistinct they become.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:47 PM
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This sounds awfully generalized as well, Mea culpa. PPD loves heuristics, and sometimes, I pick up the bad habits. I'm certain that everyone Words of doom. Why go down that path? Some of us don't think of strangers that way, and some are just ridiculously judgemental when it comes to the beautiful people. I'm fairly certain that you don't walk by "unattractive" strangers and say to yourself, "Hmmm... I wonder what it would be like to be in a 'relationship' with them," If there's a woman with a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:13 PM
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No, you're still not quite getting it. Shallow people never evolve past a first glance. Most people do - for example, men generally become more attractive, the longer women know them, and I can back this up if you need a link. And while men give an attraction boost to strangers, they make exceptions for those they're close to. Context matters, in their subjective decision making. When it comes to making long term relationship decisions based on a "FIRST GLANCE TELLS ME EVERYTHING!" mentality, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:43 PM
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Which would matter if social skills made any difference to your ability to design a chemical reactor for instance. Oh, sure, we've never seen an expensive and complicated piece of machinery fail due to poor communication on the part of the hardware guys. Rolls eyes. What other STEM jerks do you buy into? STEM professions have to result in quantifiable deliverables. So do the arts and humanities - at least, when they're working for Hollywood. Weird how people suffer a sudden lobotomy when it come…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:32 PM
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Except that social skills are impossible to measure for college applicants you haven't seen. It's incredibly easy to measure tonal control and awareness. Also face reading. We only neglect such things, because the STEM crowd reliably throws a temper tantrum when faced with their kryptonite. Suddenly, many don't give a shit about academic performance at all. You mean the type of intelligence shown to be closely correlated to scholastic suc Already told you - that's a very limited measure of succe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:08 PM
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You're confusing causation and correlation. Shallow people - those who treat less attractive/vulnerable/hurting people like shit, or like they don't exist? They disgust me. In a "If they touched me in any intimate way, I would throw up, and no that's not a metaphor" kind of way. I've been beautiful, average, and unattractive. I've been athletic and weak from sickness. I've been both majority and minority. My friends, family, and loved ones come from all walks of life. So I know what kinds of tox…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:59 PM
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While you did say both you continue on to degrade the nice guy for wanting/expecting No, I'm saying he's wanting things on a fantasy level, while earning them with the safest possible techniques. Some of them even feel they're owed happiness for this, which is where the charge of entitlement comes from. Those who genuinely don't know better, eventually grow out of it. It's why mature men have so much more success than when they were young and clueless. But some men turn it into an attack. It's e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:47 PM
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It is a little disingenuous to suddenly express a interest in those forms of intelligence Agreed. But the free public education system is still a holdover from the Victorian era, and its sensibilities. And if you try to test anything else, you immediately have the "everyone's a winner" idiots arguing with the "Social skills are a liberal conspiracy theory" idiots, on the best way to do this. Both sides will come equipped with their very best outrage porn, until it's a debate about bullying/shami…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:04 PM
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I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Humans form social bonds in stages, based on varying levels of neurochemical reward vs risk. The first level is an acquaintance. The second may be a casual friend. Third is a best friend. Fourth they're like family. It may even mirror a platonic romance. For some people, those stages are necessary before you can engage their other systems, like love and lust. I'm one of them. But that only takes you to the door. It's not the key. The key is what…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:48 PM
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Than why call nice guys entitled when they want something Because they want the benefits of lust/limerence/long term pair bonding with all the effort, risk, and offered rewards of "Just friends". It's a quick way to make people feel like assholes, and some of them, who can recognize that bullshit, are just going to be the asshole these people begged for. It all needs to stop, and public shaming is the quickest way to get the message out. I said calling people childish is a childish thing to do C…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 03:10 PM
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Men don't owe women anything But both partners are expected to give something to the relationship. we tend to make women issues and feelings more important than a man And by "we", you mean who, exactly? Because most women don't want a relationship with a spineless doormat. And no matter how many dark triad women are linked in PPD, no matter how many hot messes you can find on Tumblr, no matter how cruel and injust the tragedies of your origin story, no matter how very understandable it is - noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:54 PM
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Firstly, she doesn't have to be a mom or get pregnant if she isn't stupid. And if the guy uses the condom correctly. And if she's not pro-life. And as for judgement... I don't know if there is a sluthate sub /r/MGTOW, /r/incels, too many posts in /r/theredpill. They're just all too full of shit to admit it. Women aren't exactly sympathetic to the plight of nicr guys It's nothing to do with them being nice, and everything to do with them trying to get sex/romance with it. Whether that's making fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:41 PM
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Id prefer to engage fully, but acting a man here is a bananable offense, as is pointing out stupid people saying dumb Shit. The rules allow you to say people are saying stupid shit. For example, there's a lot of stupid shit in your post. It's women bickering, white knights validating Or a bunch of men and women compared notes, and don't agree with the redpill's crude heuristics. Because you can't get past the plot of "They Live", and the clueless desperation of many men when they first find "The…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:15 PM
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Nah, it's my way of shaming people who repulse me on a visceral level. They may be attracted to me, and they may be attractive to most people at a first glance, but I don't want them touching me. Some people deserve to be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:53 PM
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You wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:50 PM
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Desperation is unattractive. She's better off becoming the best possible version of herself, and working from there. If any insecure men have trouble coping with it, she can just learn how to bring out their best as well. (Challenge them, offer support, etc) It's a good skill for anyone to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:45 PM
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dread game is honest communication Snorts. The way TRP practices it, it's punishing someone, and trusting that the man is totally right to do so. It's what most people would save for when honest communication fails, if they were sadomasochists who couldn't simply kick their favorite co-dependency to the curb. If two people behave like emotionally stunted children in a cold war with each other, inflicting that punishment might save their relationship, but in that case, they probably deserve each …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:39 PM
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There's more than one kind of looks. Instead of looking like a bored Terminator disappointed with their forced Windows upgrade install, act like you own the world. Or give the camera an intimate gaze into how tortured you feel. Or just go for curiosity - anything that isn't "Fuck my life." Even a simple honest Duchenne smile would be an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:23 PM
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Microdosing. And if kink's involved, it sounds like they're working some sex magic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:17 PM
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Ignore the haters - I don't care which side they come from. If you're aware it doesn't speak for everyone, genuine curiosity about your direct experience would be a huge step up from the average post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:13 PM
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Stop being so hyper-sensitive. You're the one who's pretending "dread game" is better than honest communication, and being selfish is the same thing as having boundaries. You're also unable to deal with any criticism of TRP or your tradcon beliefs in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 12:10 PM
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The most direct nice guy equivalent is women complaining about men who only want sex but no relationships. It's extremely similar to the topic of women only wanting to be friends Minus the risk of pregnancy. And STD. And judgement. And, if you're the kind to get emotionally attached, the risk of serious heartbreak. Oh, wait. They're nothing alike. And men who insist otherwise, still live in a childish fantasy world.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 11:57 AM
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I thought we were talking about IQ here, howsoever ill defined it might be It really is. I'm curious - why do you think we insist on ignoring many other types of intelligence, which are equally important to future success/contributing to society? Because it's cheating kids out of a real education. predictors of scholastic success in school. And those numbers may be completely irrelevant to life outside of school, especially when we're judging applicants who were relatively close. And Indians/Asi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:58 AM
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Experiencing diverse cultures and perspectives offers a cognitive benefit to every student who isn't an idiot racist - people aren't going to sacrifice that wider perspective, which helps both majority and minority students, just so a few more STEM majors can show off their exciting test taking skills. (Especially since many of them aren't really going to do much with those talents anyways.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:47 AM
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If they flinch? You'd better assume that's at least a speed limit. Ask questions - just, don't get all weird about it. The night doesn't have to end, if they're actually trying to get over this. If they freeze up, get a far away look in their eyes, and don't respond? Or they start apologizing through tears, in a way that doesn't make any sense, and suggests they're flashing back? End it. They may not always appreciate this, but if you push ahead of someone who really, really, isn't okay with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 02:02 AM
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The only time no doesn't mean no is when you've got another safe word. If you can't tease your way into finding out someone's true intentions, you don't belong anywhere near a high risk seduction in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:56 AM
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Let's say you have two people - one is blessed with every single beautiful thing - she could model - but every night is verbal abuse, or, for variety, mind games designed to make you completely emotionally dependent on her. She's got a bad habit of breaking things, when she's angry. Or drunk. Or bored. And maybe, her violence doesn't always stop there. You don't dare call the cops. You know what she'll do if you try it again. But the sex is mind blowing. And in a crowd, complete strangers respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 01:31 AM
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Wow, that was a Hell of a lot of effort to make your advice on how to become a passive aggressive bitch of a shitty lay sound empowering. It didn't work, but you impressed yourself. And in the end, isn't that all that really matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:46 PM
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Peer reviewed source.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:13 PM
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Half of the men who post here claim The Little Mermaid lied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:09 PM
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He wants charity for men who screw themselves over. He's also convinced his limited experience with hook up culture speaks for the world. If you ask nicely, he may even throw in a rant against LGBT, for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:02 PM
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It's the men, specifically bluepill men, who think women are all sugar and spice. Yeah, totally. When we say that you can't stereotype half of the planet without a huge margin of error, what we really mean is "NO, NOT OUR BUTTERFLY PRINCESSES!" /s Guess that's what happens when you pretend junior high imageboard misogyny is the moderate position. When you watch "They Live", is it like a documentary about modern dating to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:58 PM
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Why can't most men simply indulge fetishes for public scat and extreme cuckoldry? Ageplay is just adults playing pretend, isn't it? But there are psychological barriers, and they matter. Intimacy is the one place where you really need everyone to be okay with what's happening. Someone demanding a rape fantasy from someone who really can't handle forcing anyone? Shaming them for not being able to provide it? It's just common psychological abuse. They're much closer to being the rapist, than they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:30 AM
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I don't know - it seems way more common among guys who won't admit it outside of an understanding audience. Ditto the women who fantasize about being the rapist. When there's that much cultural baggage attached, it's kind of hard to blame them. Any man who admits it, risks being branded a creep. Anyone woman who admits it, risks being harassed by all the men who created the stereotype. But yeah, women have a fantasy about being raped way more than men do - why is it a surprise? They're the ones …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 10:12 AM
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"Dear PPD, I just saw Basic Instinct. Fuck, fuck, fuck! Are men really into being murdered with their sex?" "Dear PPD, also, the new Mummy reboot. Probably. I'm not going to watch that shit. Just look at the ads!" "Seriously, the Sirens, Succubi, it's everywhere!" "Holy shit, giantess porn!" Christ, some of you must be the most boring people on the planet. At least the rest of you know rape fantasy is about a moral get of jail free card, and the adrenaline, and being overwhelmed by someone else'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 09:47 AM
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Example of blue pill pair bonding. Although it could just as easily be describing a redpill connection. It's why so many people talk past each other - what works for us, will sabotage other people if they try to force it. Left out in the cold: The blackpill, which confuses a first glance for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:45 AM
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I thought you were talking about the book. Apologies - that's my mistake - I wasn't aware you thought we believed in blank slate. As far as overlapping Bell curves when it comes to gender, you won't get any argument from me. Half of my interests meant that I wasn't going to meet very many straight men, and the other half meant most of the women I met were at least very sympathetic to Yang thought, with more than a few being Autism spectrum INTJ.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:39 AM
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I know. It's almost like we have lives that are way more important to us than winning internet debates with assholes who just want an excuse to give up. Not that we mind throwing all the science they'd rather ignore in their faces. It's fun to remind them they're just the world's shittiest religious cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:29 AM
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Mostly because we can observe that race hasn't prevented IQs from increasing whenever issues like malnutrition, mental illness, and stress are addressed. The authors of the Bell Curve also liked to make up data whenever it was lacking. It might be shitty science, but since it helps racists share their feelings..
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:15 AM
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More like some people really like blindfolds and whacking at a pinata. Or strangers, whichever. Other people prefer flashlights and swapping notes with people who've earned their trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:12 AM
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Usually they prefer to exaggerate them into a pink and blue cold war. Even Yin and Yang would be a step up in their ability to process complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:08 AM
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You didn't read the name or job of the author. You're obsessed with chores, instead of literally everything else I've mentioned, or why time is important. You really are desperate to salvage something for yourself out of this, aren't you? I'll leave you to that, then. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 02:16 AM
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You laser focus on chores, ignore everything else, and then defeat the strawman. Congratulations on that. You're still wrong about too much choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 02:13 AM
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As you can see, he's still unable to figure out how overwork may interfere with someone's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 11:00 PM
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It mentions time spent on things that are fulfilling, and bring you happiness - most people connected the dot. It doesn't mention too many choices overloading their tiny little lady brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 10:54 PM
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I get it if RP isn't for you, but I don't see why you'd have such hostility against it. I was never a fan of lies, hate, or conspiracy theories. Since they're huge fans of all 3, plus passive-aggressive psychological abuse, you can see how there'd be a conflict. you insinuate that only bad can come from it. No, I readily admit they've stolen some good advice. It's what they add to it that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:39 PM
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Actually, it had everything to do with a specific thread. But by all means, let your guilty conscience go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 07:58 PM
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But many of the people agreeing with him, would know better than to be that overt. Do we really need them to all out themselves, before observing that TRP is misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:50 PM
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Based on too many past experiences, it leaps out of the shadows and tears apart any incel/redpill who might dare to admit there's no ambiguity to be seen. But it was in response to your post suggesting that misogynists need to actually admit to being misogynists before you know their motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:26 PM
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Example of ambiguity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:17 PM
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Pretty much. It was just getting dull debating the "vanilla version of 50 shades" nonsense. The expert opinion was as anti-climatic as most people would expect, but it may help someone anyways, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:08 PM
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Ask Mr. Smoogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:32 PM
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Some folks think modern women have too many options.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:30 PM
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I like the part best where you're determined to ignore everything else I've said, and also pretend lost time has no value. I know you're not that stupid, so feel free to post again when you stop behaving like a common troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:03 PM
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Odd, society's increasingly empathic view of women seems to have done nothing to prevent them from being fired when corporate decides to downsize the workforce for a brief increase in stock prices. Or increasing the hours of those who remain. It's done nothing to help men figure out this whole complicated "reasonable escalation" thing. Especially the men who don't want to learn it. And again, your insistence that all the outrage porn in the world should just put a smile on their faces is bizarre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 04:01 PM
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I imagine there's someone else who could be doing more household chores instead. If you use your imagination, you might even figure out who it is. But sure, let's stick with your bullshit claim that time pressure has nothing to do with women's unhappiness. Can you repeat it in all caps? It's the standard format for a political manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:49 PM
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You mean like this? I expect you to engage in good faith. Cut the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:38 PM
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Oh, right. I didn't say a thing about treating people more like people or putting a stop to efforts to exploit fear/anger for money. Mostly because I didn't think I needed to spell all that out, after my first post. But you seem to have forgotten all of that, because you're married to the idea that they're not a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:34 PM
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Overall, women work many more hours outside of home, than men do inside it. The increase in work load hasn't been split evenly. Oh, and about men still being as happy as they were in the 70's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:30 PM
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DUH HUHR HUHR Exellent rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:26 PM
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You're not going to actually deal with any factor that brings your conclusions into question, are you? Christ, just call your post "Help me refine my manifesto."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:24 PM
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I don't think it is due to household chores Because you're not the one feeling your free time vanishing? Because you're not dealing with feeling like you don't get as much from a relationship as you put into it? How incredibly convenient for you. it is clearly separate from the stigma against seeking mental health treatment. Because...? You are not replying in good faith. Let's rewind for a second: Are you implying that women are inherently less emotionally resilient than men? Or is it a factor …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 03:21 PM
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Either that, or I'm implying men don't like to share their sorrows with complete strangers. Something else for you to ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 02:52 PM
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You're just all about the misandry today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 02:15 PM
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I would argue that this is due to the paradox of choice. I'd argue that it's because we, as a culture, treat people like shit until they can't be used anymore. We also go out of our way to scare them/piss them off for ratings/clicks. And don't even get me started on how we neglect mental health. Not to mention, all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 02:13 PM
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Wow. Nobody on PPD's ever questioned whether men can be raped by women before. rolls eyes. Or were you going to write up an insane strawman in your blood and feces, just to prove how completely calm you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:59 PM
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This is probably the most zen post you've ever made. It's a pity the context is him throwing another tantrum because we don't take his cuck fetish seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:28 PM
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I don't really understand what you mean We're completely incompatible with each other, and yet, we're both somehow okay with this. If only all of Reddit were capable... if you're happy, then I'm happy for you! Ditto. I hope you're with someone at least as cool to you as mine is to me. Who cares what I think anyway? Well, some of your posts are actually pretty decent. I'm just one girl. Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 01:06 PM
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So, if I understand OP correctly, every boy who doesn't marry the hottest women they've ever joked about with their friends, or shared over the internet? They're all crying in shame, and withholding sex from their partner. Oh, wait - obviously not true, because I forgot that we're pretending that most men don't have any standards. Also, they're all really noble, so apparently, they'd share their dicks with almost everyone. Meanwhile, every woman on the planet - no exceptions - wishes she'd been …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:59 PM
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Good for you. But we're not going to trade the women in our lives, or our lives in general, for a chance at the redpill's trademark crippling insecurity. Besides, you're not exactly doing it for us, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:47 PM
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It's why we also refuse to get past the idea that the world is flat, or that invisible monsters care about your sex life. Fuck science! It's always demanding we stop looking down on people for being different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:42 PM
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I never heard of them so I googled them. I just don't see how they can be attractive to women. It's bad enough when the redpill men rush for an AWALT without you encouraging them. Some women just enjoy things considered traditionally feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:37 PM
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On the one hand, I get a muse and I get an audience, and aside from love, there's no other high I need. Rockstar, all the way. On the other hand, being chased/harassed by idiots and assholes sucks, and I like my privacy. I was a wreck when I was young, and maturity is underrated. So, go me. On the third hand, my overall health is what kept me from the stage in the first place. It's not exactly the most amazing thing I've got going... Can I just split the difference, and live until 52 as an under…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:33 PM
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TRP in general ruins a man's chances for long term "happiness" because it makes him more self aware of his own measures for happiness. And then tells him to bury them all, unless he's a stoic tree or James Bond - Connery era. But I'm neither of these things, and I'm doing alright for myself. My N count is average if we're going by the usual measure, and ridiculously obscene if we're counting kink and love. What's in it for me, besides a clear attempt to gain Sithlord powers through Anakin's styl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:22 PM
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Except there's that pesky cognitive empathy. I've seen people from abusive homes, on the autism spectrum, who are able to reason their way into understanding others. If you can learn how to program a computer, you can at least figure out that most people looking for something serious hate being pushed into a hard yes/no with someone they've just met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 12:10 PM
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He need not be masculine True. or particularly attractive. False. There are different types of romantic/sexual attraction, no matter how desperately some people need a one size fits all formula before they'll talk to women. If you lack in all of them, the relationship's not going anywhere, except anywhere you're not. We're way past the days when most women were forced to marry to avoid being homeless. Most of the behaviors delineated by RP are by and large successful for men who apply them appro…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 10:36 AM
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Actually, I'd argue that if you passionately care about appearances, you really need to maintain them. But long term relationships aren't always a looks match. Some of the worst behaviors that the manosphere endorses, are a fast way to make things harder for men who can't count on their looks to instantly win someone over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 10:14 AM
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It really doesn't deserve the pure hate it gets. Batman has way worse depictions of BDSM relationships, with "He consented, eventually." and "She keeps coming back despite the abuse." being favorite tropes. What does this tell us about all men? Nothing. But for some reason, whenever a woman writes smut, it must be a statement about all women. I've seen both 50 Shades of Grey and Women on Top being used this way. How does that even make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:21 AM
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To be fair, the guy running /r/feminism is a hypocrite who needs power over everyone else. He's a great example of why so many radical feminists don't trust men with power in the first place. I'm not saying they're right - women can abuse power just as easily, and you needn't look far to find it. But Reddit seems to be obsessed with becoming the near worst case scenario whenever it comes to gender relations in general. Hell, there's a bunch of people on the regressive left like Steve Shives, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:09 AM
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Why is the basic list kept to what people struggling to find anyone believe? A ring on the right finger will do more for a man's SMV (and his ability to destroy the trust it represents) than whether or not he's playing peacock. Obviously, the long term attraction isn't completely divorced from the SMV, so - How about positive masculinity, positive femininity, or a blend of both? How about dominance, submission, ability to work well with an equal partner? Or shared beliefs, and a shared sense of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 07:21 AM
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Paranoia and emotional instability is just how some men keep their relationships exciting. When they get comfortable, they turn as lazy as a neutered tomcat. Edit: The rules forbid me from wondering whether he's describing himself, in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:55 AM
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Technically no, but being a Reddit moderator who doesn't want an honest debate ruining your carefully cultivated garden? /r/theredpill and /r/incels want to be as inhospitable as possible to anyone who gets in the way of their larger political goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:46 AM
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Only because women cant get the top-tier hot chads anymore, so they decide to """settle""" for a sub-par beta provider. Nobody asked how you cope. We're all familiar with your brand of denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:38 AM
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You keep claiming it, and I've yet to see any evidence. Typing in bold is not a rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:36 AM
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What I mean is, a lot of beta (in this case, Bue Pilled) guys like to think they're better than RP guys because they have a girlfriend. What they fail to realize is that they're effectively a doormat for their BP girlfriends Because you said so? Or because of the favorite redpill jerk, based on their own failures in life? Because that's what their "Don't let her know you have emotional needs too!" looks like to sane people. I'm a submissive, but if someone takes advantage of that fact, they're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:24 AM
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bizarre strawman You can't even get away with being a doormat in femdom circles. What are you smoking? The only women who go for that are dark triad themselves. And no matter how much outrage porn you've hogged out on, most women aren't sociopathic narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:12 AM
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Especially if you only look at the short term, and then pretend they're never just financial providers or a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 06:09 AM
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Yes, it is. Which is why, if you have the misfortune of dealing with a partner's untreated and unchallenged BPD, you may discover how quickly any mistake you make, is woven into a narrative where you're the abuser, and any abuse they dish out, is in self-defense. Some are more than capable of weaponizing any couple's therapy against the more responsible partner, who can be completely blindsided by the double team. And if you're dealing with a dark triad personality? They will simply exploit any …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:57 AM
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Testosterone can't explain it all. All women have lower testosterone levels than all men, But the bodies of cis women are more sensitive to androgens. It's why a high T woman may not have anywhere near as much T as a low T guy. With that said, it's not that simple - empathy, for example, can be intuitive, emotional, or cognitive. Men and women who lack it, don't have an actual excuse, other than individual failure and a crippling fear of what they don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:44 AM
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Worked great for me. I'm never far from love and lust, and the mutual peace of mind pays off in the long run, even if there's sometimes less of it in the immediate short term. If the redpill is really amoral, it can't take a blind piss on honesty or honest people. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of easily offended hypocrites trying to bullshit everyone else so they don't suffer any handicaps in the market as a result of their dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:38 AM
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Gay men have the least DV too. Gay men are also the least likely to rush into relationships, and men, overall, are more likely to be policed for any violence. Especially since they're more likely to put each other in a hospital or a grave, if they are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:24 AM
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Before I say anything else, I approve of what you're doing. But. Some of it is a poor argument, because it allows for abuse in the opposite direction. Someone who pretends to be a victim, in order to abuse their partner? Complain about how badly you treat him Some men and women really do need to hear this. Threaten to leave, or threaten to throw you out This can be about protecting their boundaries. Demanding this option be taken completely off the table, without further context? It's can also b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 08:13 AM
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Honesty's rewarded when you're bringing some great qualities to the table, that someone else genuinely desires as much as you desire them - and you're both realistic about facing your weaknesses. For those who know better, but don't want to quit their bullshit, of course it's to be avoided at all costs. The problem is when these dysfunctional assholes try to claim that every healthy relationship begins with a complete lack of trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:52 AM
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They like to claim they take no moral position, but in reality, they're libertarian/objectivist/dark triad hedonist/tradcon. They'll ban anyone else who dares insult them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:47 AM
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TRP actively encourages lying, and claims that women don't want the truth were upvoted. Women, on the other hand, is a word describing billions of individuals, with varying beliefs and preferences, no matter how increasingly desperate some hate groups are to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:44 AM
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Yes, I know how much you guys desperately wish everyone rated other people's personalities on the same scale. Or not at all. It's one of the funniest comedy acts around. You really think that if you all agree to stick to the official talking points, you'll make it more true by sheer force of will. The blackpill should just admit it wants to be Gaston and the triplets' used condom, already. It'll be much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:37 AM
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Incels who fit into dysfunctional feminine personality types (no personal boundaries or goals/unstable emotions/borderline personality disorder negativity), and yet avoid facing their issues like adults, continue to blame their femininity for their inevitable failure in life. And yet asshole overcompensation has also failed to deliver them from their virginity. It must be their lack of masculine role models. /sarcasm. Meanwhile, men who embraced the strengths of femininity continue to have no id…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:21 AM
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The third wave happened in the 90's, as the daughters of the second wave faced the privilege of their mothers. It's now 2017. You're not exactly keeping up with the latest developments in sex positive intersectional feminism. Besides, the honey badgers are well known for their "Masturbating monkey flings shit at zoo visitors" approach to the matter. According to them, Mary P. Koss is a third waver, simply because they don't wanna deal with her second wave credentials. Heroes in romance movies ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 07:06 AM
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I know there's way more female sexual molesters than known, not just from my own experience, but because of how many of their victims were represented in survivors' groups, and how easy it is to find men and women who'll open up about it once you get to know them. None of us ever talked about arrests - without the injuries associated with violent penetration, a courtroom could only make things worse. Especially since this is one of those things that used to be swept under the rug. Nobody wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 08:25 PM
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I thought you approved of ugly heuristics. Most men who don't fit incel personality types are doing pretty good for themselves. Your failure in life doesn't define the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:20 PM
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Yes, actually we are. It's why most gender non-conforming men end up bluepill, while you guys beat up strawmen about everyone who doesn't share your fetish for 50's gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:16 PM
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For example, you introduced me to Carol Gilligan, but you seem unaware of radical feminists like her, who, despite her simplistic pink/blue approach to the kyriarchy would make a great case that men are capable of thinking in the same ways as feminine women. And then there's this: Any feminist who's aware that the results between men and women aren't actually all that different, is probably not going to constantly announce themselves as feminist in random conversations. And let's examine women h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:33 PM
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No. I'm not an anime character. Oh? What is your troll gimmick supposed to be, then? Your blind lashing You're the one throwing random attacks at complete strangers, and hoping something sticks. It really doesn't reflect well on you - isn't there a debate on Youtube you should be catching, instead? It seems more your pace.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:12 AM
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As a man who is often visibly gender nonconforming, I can assure you men are not being rewarded for breaking with tradition. As a man who is often visibly gender nonconforming, I can assure you that some men most assuredly are. And even among those who are quiet about it - Obama's strength was both feminine and masculine. Do you really think most progressive women will vote to punish a man who actually listens, with genuine empathy, in order to better understand and support them? Whatever you've…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:08 AM
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So, the champion of good faith debate literally ignores half of what you just said, and attempts to spin it into a confession to an out of nowhere accusation... And you're the one being accused of satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:53 AM
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but femininity is still specific to women. Especially if you hide from the counter culture and are terrified to question the worldview of a radical TERF. Why is that, exactly? Is it an obsession with your local social hierarchy? Drowning in isolated intellectual bubbles? I'm not sure why PPD finds it offensive to acknowledge that more and more men are being rewarded for breaking with tradition, but it's a pity that you're enabling the same trends you criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:30 AM
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"Just be yourself(borig, average, mediocre, wageslave beta) and super hot girl(s) will(sometimes literally) fall of the sky and unconditionally fall in love with you" is every bluepiller's wet dream Is that what you tried? That's...pathetic. Nope, no sympathy for you. The only reason nobody was attracted to your personality, was because you had none to give. Even a bad personality would be an improvement. But it says everything about TRP, that a bad personality is where most stop. Having done th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:57 AM
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Okay, fair point. There are some fun subversive ones, which are probably a good read on their own merits. But I've really not had time to play any, and aside from the bird headed one, I wouldn't know where to even begin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 05:32 PM
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It's not just harems, all anime is bluepill as fuck. Golgo 13, for example, covers the bluepill belief that a stoic block of wood will make every woman desperate for his splinters if he just treats people like they're disposable. And all the rape hentai speaks for itself, I'm sure. So much of the bluepill wishes to be called master, and have a rotating collection of sex slaves to feed to the demon - wouldn't you agree? Anyways - Feel free to chime in, whenever you feel your fragile spidersilks o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:54 PM
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Most of your attention whoring is, no matter how low key.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:28 PM
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It's a lot like you trying to drown out the sound of every woman who ever upset you. Only you think the smirk covers it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:23 PM
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Oh, c'mon. Anyone who watched WWE knows that they were all about the nice guys getting the nice girls, and everyone living together in their nice dollhouse together. Wasn't that the plot of Twilight, too? I think that was also the plot of Iron Man and Sucide Squad. It's no wonder why all these bitter old men and their incel pets are confused on behalf of a generation. There's not a single redpill message to be found, anywhere, so long as anyone still believes in something blue, anywhere. They're…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:19 PM
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You think whining about Chad's Thundercock is speaking truth to power. You're really not one to talk about eyesight problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 04:11 PM
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Yes, that accurately sums up your entire posting history. I've yet to see you actually contribute anything besides trollish self-pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:54 PM
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It's like beautiful islands of sanity, in a sea filled with venomous jellyfish. And sharks. And tropical storms. If you find someplace you belong, and you really do belong there? You'll never want to leave. If you don't? You have a new survivor's tale to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:15 PM
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No, it's observing that he's not actually turned on by men, and he's welcome to shut up instead of talking over everyone who is. It'll help if you remember to stop taking everything literally - you're not a robot, and there's no excuse for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 03:04 PM
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Harem anime. So much harem anime. My ex-roommate loves them, because she's a sadomasochist. For those who've never survived one, here's how they work - a cute but shy guy/girl will suddenly meet a metric ton of dangerous perverts who use his or her innocence as a prop in their never ending war with each other. It's practically torture porn at the main character's expense, and neither the torture nor the porn is neglected. In the end, being the one person with any emotional maturity, surrounded b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:56 PM
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No, I'm saying he's full of shit, and his expertise is coming straight out of his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:23 PM
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He's got a girlfriend, and he's not a virgin. He's still a part of the incel community, but he's not incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 02:21 PM
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Most women aren't like my girlfriend, either. But why would you want anything to do with most people? Set your standards reasonably high, and ruthlessly disqualify anyone who can't meet them. So long as you actually have something to offer in return for meeting your expectations? If you can hold out, you'll stand out in a crowd to the right someone. It's just the way pair bonding works. Just make sure you're networking, if you're looking for uncommon traits. Leaving things to chance is only goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:39 PM
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No, seriously, the one time I had sex outside of a relationship, I felt like an unpaid prostitute. If she hadn't confessed her feelings for me after, it was going to be the last time I had sex, and that was despite her being my best friend. I can't explain it - I consider myself sex positive, and I'd never judge anyone else for it, but I never felt so disposable. And I'd never feel that disposable again, until the rape. It's just the way some people are wired - more women than men, but if you bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 01:30 PM
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But I do think my view of relationships was strongly shaped by Disney, etc. Beauty and the Beast or Lion King? Hunchback? I know Prince Eric had a nice set of ethics that helped fill out his pants - remember the free-wheeling conversations he and Ariel had, long into the night? Though even honing your character in real life will usually not cause you to "win" the girl. Helped me, but that's because I didn't pretend "charm" and "seduction" were totally separate from every other set of good behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:57 PM
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I forgot, you're violently turned on by bad boys. Nice just ruins the fantasy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 12:50 PM
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Except when those generalities point to a large number people pair bonding - in love and lust - as true equals. Not to mention all the female led relationships we're supposed to ignore, just because TRP can't be bothered to create more than one personality profile for women. Or when the data just laughs at the excuses made by the blackpill's own special snowflakes: "team dysmorphia".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 06:11 AM
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You're ruining all the attempts to stereotype and draw lazy conclusions. What kind of a monster are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 06:02 AM
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Actually, I do a fair bit of giving people advice over there, since I'm one of the few blues who can break it all down into INTJ friendly programming instructions. Most former incels just struggled with reading interest, and providing their end of the escalation. But it turns out that engaging people in good faith, and learning where they're coming from, beats calling them entitled coward robots. Who knew? It's a good thing you don't treat men the way you do women on the Yang side of things. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 06:22 PM
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Last time we engaged, you had a bunch of posts deleted for personal attacks, while I didn't Weren't able to see that any of your own posts had been deleted, you mean. And yes, your attacks on Carkudo were bullshit, even if the mods decided your original 5 hour conspiracy theory was a fair contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:47 PM
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Odd. I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge there's more than one type. Some are just looking for someone who understands their experiences - some places weren't willing to even hear them out. Others need to learn how to be less trusting - fairy tales have a time limit. And a third has no idea what they're doing at all, and would be incel without the guidance. But sure, I take cheap shots back from time to time. Especially when people like you shoot first. You, meanwhile, scream AWALT to the heave…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:27 PM
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She's already stood up to her wife, and fought for me, at a time when her wife thought I had my own hidden agenda. That puts her way ahead of the rapist, or anyone who just wanted a 24/7 fantasy. Or anything redpill, in other words. And before you go there - they had an understanding about other partners. Not once has that understanding been broken. I'll never come between them. Face it - not everyone fits into your tiny little cardboard boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:05 PM
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Of course. Although it's fortunate that we've known each other for years now, and I've learned to see things from a poly perspective. In the past, that just the existence of that offer would have been a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:00 PM
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It's a criticism of the article's lazy conclusions. Just because a woman is motivated to diet, doesn't mean she's unhealthy or unhappy. It also doesn't mean she necessarily needs to diet, in order to keep the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 12:04 PM
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No, it didn't. Sex outside of marriage was simply not spoken of, which is another matter entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 12:00 PM
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Really, this is why the kink community is much healthier than most people. No secrets about sex, because we're all on the same team. It just kicks all kinds of ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:19 PM
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The redpill claims women are turned off by feminine men. Whenever evidence is presented that the attraction isn't as rare as they claim (boybands, women's manga, all the happy blue men with plenty of sexual experience), some double down on the claim. When the manly men can't make it go away, they start sulking about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:10 PM
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I fully support it because I have that kink and my case is special. I mean I have it insofar that I wanted to be Bull to younger couples, like couple in a movie Like Crazy (2011), roleplaying on the assumption that her boyfriend is not always masculine enough for her, so I step in and provide physical release from sexual frustration. Of course in my gap fantasies it is often just cheating with him maybe catching us and joining hit I wouldnt do that IRL. But I develovped this kink because my girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:30 PM
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Most kinks are twisted fears -- if you have a society where men see being cheated on as the ultimate emasculation, a bunch of them are going to fetishize that. Thank you, for that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:26 PM
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"Dear PPD, I've just discovered vore. Holy shit! Is this what our blue pilled society has come to? NOW THEY'RE LITERALLY EATING BETA MEN!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:06 PM
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No, I was responding to your cartoonish hatred for someone else's private life. It gets couples off, and it has nothing to do with you. And yet, you're more okay with political corruption, false accusations, violent sexual assault, and every form of terrorism. What kind of projecting is happening on your end, exactly? Are you seriously that obsessed with the idea that he's a spineless jellyfish spoiling some idiot who has nothing but contempt for him? I just didn't think it was possible for you …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 03:44 PM
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"How DARE they not keep score the way I do!? We make the rules! They will obey the incels!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 12:34 PM
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There's also some men who really need to admit they're just enjoying the two for one deal on the 3d porn, but won't. Another angle I've seen is humiliating her, by passing her around like a prop, but that's impossible for the Stacey haters who post here to admit to themselves. Crippling insecurity is their fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 12:33 PM
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This is true if you're slow to adapt and can't read anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:09 AM
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We're allowed, yes, so long as she remains faithful to her wife, first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 02:44 AM
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Luke Cage (Luke Cage...not the best show but he's a good role model) Oh, c'mon. The first half was an amazing meditation on masculine identity and the sins of the past. And the symbolism was perfect - and unashamed. The second half couldn't compare, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as advertised. It just suffered the same problem as Death Note. When you kill a charismatic character, they're difficult to replace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 01:18 AM
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Like? Entire lifetimes spent together. Edit: Also, you have an imagination. And you know how bodies work. I'm sure you can manage. Edit 2: I knew that was a mistake. I really should have edited faster.\v//v But don't even try to claim that's part of AWALT as the redpill defines it. I'm not ridiculously hot, rich, or high in status. And I'm prone to falling in love, trust, and emotional honesty - all complete buzzkills, I've been assured. Loyalty as long as they love them is hardly loyalty at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:59 PM
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Yes, they're totally waiting to be dominated by Gaston, and I should ignore all the evidence to the contrary. But then again, you also ignored the part about loyalty being their first instinct, even when it hurts them. Did you have anything besides a sneer to contribute?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:22 PM
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And actually getting to know people as individuals will get you even further than that. Unless you're so terrified of risk that you've turned into 3PO, always calculating the odds while the rest of us have an adventure. My girlfriend dominates me with her wife's permission. She's loyal to those she loves, to the very end. Just the same as my friends and family. My exes were all dominants like her too. Go figure. It's what happens when you're a submissive leaning switch who isn't lazy and demandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 07:12 PM
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Keep telling yourself bitter fairy tales.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:53 PM
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Depends on the woman. Heuristics will only get you so far in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:50 PM
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I wasn't prepared for anything beyond kissing in my first relationship. I'm not sure she could be cruel enough to liberate me from that prison. But maybe...? <3 Still, there's the question of who introduced us? Without her wife, we never would have met. (They're both poly.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:55 PM
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Yes, and I got more than I wanted, or thought possible. But it was because I only ever wanted what I'd actually seen. You set your expectations to a fantasy, meanwhile, and have been disappointed ever since.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:42 PM
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Keep in mind, that the redpill and the black pill have endorsed chasing after women younger than 21. Here's why that's a bad idea. Context. The addiction phase of love doesn't last forever. Guess how low impulse control addicts take being denied a hit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:39 PM
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But we don't "just want the company of another flawed human". We're WILLING TO COMPROMISE AND ACCEPT the company of another flawed human. Speak for yourself. When I was a kid, imagining my ideal girlfriend, I already knew all the personality flaws I was most compatible with. We all have checklists of all the things we want in a sex partner, a spouse, a SO, whatever. True. Nearly all of us do not get all of those things. Guess I lucked out, then. We want that person to be perfect and flawless Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:34 PM
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Yes, you are, because even if someone "blows away your expectations" (at first), they STILL have flaws and are STILL not perfect. Yes, that's the standard story of being human. You are STILL not getting EVERYTHING you want. I'm not? I just wanted the company of another flawed human, since as far back as I can remember. We're not all sheltered control freaks living in a fantasy world. Besides, I'd go mad if she was the perfect reflection of my own thoughts - where's the fun in that? Not to mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:25 PM
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Not young adult is a drama queen, but you'd be surprised how many shy introverts had untapped potential in that direction. Either way, relationships with a large age gap are still a lot of responsibility for the older partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:20 PM
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I can always count on PPD to take metaphors way too literally. The point is, you're not settling if someone blows away your expectations. Especially if you have a spine, and don't care about the approval of the alt-right Barbie fanclub. They can keep babysitting the oldest kids in the room. No skin off my back. Gay. It's true, a man and a woman remaining intertwined in afterglow is the most homosexual thing around. What can I say? I'm gay for post coital cuddles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:16 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 03:09 PM
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On second thought, go ahead, explain how you prefer refereeing an out of control adolescent drama over accepting the mentorship of a trustworthy partner who can just take your breath away, and melt your mind in every wonderful way. And give it the title of your name flare. Serenity only in solitude
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:36 PM
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Ask your magic mirror. You seem to be getting all your answers from there. And furious, neverending masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:31 PM
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Fortunately, you're not in charge of making my decisions for me. Go preach somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:25 PM
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Suppose, in another time, another place, having escaped a prison, and explored the surrounding woods for as long as you could, another you had become acquainted with every single bird in every single tree, and every animal that might cross your path. You know what's safe to eat, and what's poisonous. And even, after a few close calls, what might wish to eat you. You make plans for the rest of your life, based on what you've seen. Your arrows are sharp. Your campfires keep you safe, even when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:54 PM
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Experience and character over youth and appearances for me. Appearance, I suppose, would rank slightly higher, just because style choices are a great way for people to communicate under the radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:40 PM
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It's almost like she was intelligent enough to realize that even if a supernatural creature were to communicate with bronze age tribesmen, they'd happily add in their own prejudices. So she ignored all the really ignorant and hateful parts, while using the rest to help her through difficult times in her life. Meanwhile, you shake your fists impotently at the air. "Cuuuurse you, Christian! Play fair!"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:36 PM
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How so? She didn't condemn nudity, nor anyone's interest in it. You're just upset because someone dead made up a ridiculous set of rules, and she's ignoring one of the stupid ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 01:01 PM
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Or perhaps, a few very difficult courses aside, that filter out all but the best and most creative of chefs, my favorite meals are not that difficult to make. My challenge wasn't to settle. It was to realize I didn't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 12:58 PM
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She was a Catholic who had no problem with nudity. After all, what was God's original plan for his creation, before the fall?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 12:25 PM
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do you see now why I mentioned bright No, I see a friend who was pro-life, and anti-divorce, but unashamed of her body. Not everyone can be placed in a simple box, no matter how many simple boxes simple people create.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:51 AM
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Full nude. And yes, people are complicated. I was a sex positive progressive with a fear of sex, so who was I to judge? She helped me find the courage to face those fears when I was alone, and we bonded over a shared love of obscure words and Lovecraftian horror. So you explicity said to your girlfriend that her wrong nose is beautiful to you? You'd regard it as wrong. I'd regard it as beautiful. I like distinctive noses. My girlfriend already knows this, even if her's isn't crooked - it's just …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:41 AM
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well models are usually not bright They're a mix. She was very intelligent, but unfortunately, also very conservative. We were just a bad match, and there was no way for us to have worked out together. Limerence can only carry you so far, and I would never knowingly hurt someone. ... Not in any way they didn't wish to be hurt, anyways. u//u. no girl wants to her from her boyfriend (everything on you is perfection except that crooked nose) You don't understand how it works. If I'm in love with so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:22 AM
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It's all in the ripples around the islands of rock, and the flow. And learning how to best redirect your energy. Harmony is easy to maintain, when you control everything, but very often you won't. At least, that's what I get by looking at it for a few minutes - I liked it more the longer I studied it. Thank you for giving me something to contemplate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:14 AM
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Most people don't expect perfection in all things, unless they're falling in love with fictional characters. We prioritize the things that are most important to us, and our minds are blown when we find someone who excels beyond our cynical expectations. I've broken a model's heart to find my way to a woman who makes me more the person I want to be. I have no regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:01 AM
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Altruism doesn't exist, because altruists feel good about themselves when they help others. Oh, the "You should get nothing for thinking of others first, or it doesn't count!" argument. Sometimes, people don't. That's an intellectually dishonest way of redefining altruism. Selfishness just means that your inner reward mechanisms are purely directed towards your immediate benefit. Someone selfish thinks empathy is a weakness, which is something incredibly important for other people to know, befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:55 AM
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It's a thread presenting crude stereotypes, same as every other post he makes. You're free to indulge, and I'm free to criticize the combined laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:48 AM
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Let's assume someone made you a meal of all your favorite things. Would you throw it on the floor because it wasn't made by a five star chef? Would you scream and cry, and smash windows, because it wasn't what everyone else wanted? Would you starve yourself, offended by it's existence, mocking all your dreams? Or are you still capable of being human, and enjoying the incredible gift?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:40 AM
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Finally, someone talking sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:37 AM
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This might help.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:36 AM
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So, your best argument is that women can't tell the difference between porn and reality? And that you would need to look perfect before anyone's interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:35 AM
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Cinderella's just a bedtime story. It rarely holds up when people want something serious. Unfortunately, the barriers between social classes are still very strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:51 AM
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If only sex positive feminism had worn the aluminum foil mind control shields, modern yaoi fans wouldn't even need to use the vibe. They could be studying proper posture and silverware placement instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:24 AM
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And at this point, the furious intellectual masturbation coming from the men (and some women) of PPD ripped the flesh completely off of their genitals. Now that they were granted their divorce from reality, they intended to play the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:20 AM
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So, you're a man, then? Your lack of empathy is to be commended. My brother and I were molested by women. And I, like many other men and women, was raped by a woman. It turns out it's way more common than people thought. I suppose that must make those women honorary men too? Fortunately - Better women than you showed me that male sexuality could also be a kindness, and a welcome gift. Enjoy your hate. Perhaps one day, you'll even be able to continue the cycle of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:16 AM
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Decorating the echo chamber with cherry-picked favorites?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:07 AM
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No, the redpill is just giving itself a rimjob again. You guys don't represent MAN, no matter how desperate you guys are to limit the definition of masculinity to your capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:05 AM
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This just confirms the casual narcissism of too many men in the modern redpill. Every little thing they experience speaks for MAN, because they're too chickenshit to stand for themselves. No wonder why they need an internet style guide to fake masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 08:00 AM
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1. 2. 3. 4. 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 07:48 AM
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He's still overcompensating, and thinks everyone who disagrees with him on this issue is a manbaby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:11 PM
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And by all that you mean, you ignored every single feminist who calls other feminists out, and demand that they do nothing else. Nice gig, if you can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:20 PM
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And yet, I've stood up for Atlas, and defended another poster against your random attack. I just have no patience for bullshit. And no, before you respond, I really don't care that you believe the bluepill is delusional. You've already demonstrated that you don't know shit about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:08 PM
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"No TRUE woman would get turned off by a guy easily" Most of us manage to avoid that problem. Since you thought the average guy experienced it with the average woman, it's pretty clear that you just need to learn how to stop sabotaging yourself. I've never seen you drop a link to a paper even once in your posts on PPD. Sorry, but even the sane half of the redpill figured out that good communication pays off. How often do the pills agree on anything? Seriously, how do you think we're all turning …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:03 PM
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You're right, that's exactly why women end most relationships and initiate most dead bedrooms. What does that have to do with whether or not their lovers can melt them into red hot lava, with just words and the sound of their voice alone? If you risk turning her off every time you open your mouth, you're doing it wrong. "No true scotsman." Put that down before you hurt yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:37 PM
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Enjoy the bubble wrap then. No skin off my back.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:31 PM
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You're the one who started babbling nonsense. I'm far from his biggest fan, but learn how to comment stalk someone properly before embarrassing yourself like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:29 PM
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Well, you certainly can't read. Most of PPD has another experience, and has no bloody idea how you managed to conjure up all those excuses to keep avoiding people. Cut the bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:24 PM
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Because once you create a first impression and get lucky enough that she wants to fuck you, all communication can do is decrease it, You're just not very attractive inside. Your personality is a series of turn-offs, or this wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:22 PM
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How did you get "I FOUND HER ON TINDER JUST NOW!" from that? Take me through the steps. I need the cheap entertainment. Do you think everyone on Tinder is single? Do you just not know what a three-way is? I'm not going to ask him personal questions, but he lost his virginity some time ago, and his experiences aren't much different from most of the rest of us - did you have a point to make at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:19 PM
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Because they run their relationships like a cold war. Nobody dares give away too much information.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:13 PM
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Or maybe some folks need to be de-stressed before their libido returns. While others like a good mind fuck (they're not all bad) to get them in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 03:10 PM
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Eh. We're not the ones who welcomed the blackpill in. They're just masochistic trolls. Meanwhile, some of the topics in TRP and MGTOW could become top posts on /r/incels. Not that anyone expects you guys to always be able to tell the difference between the black and the red, but at least try to maintain some standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:57 PM
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I have seen this over and over and don't understand why anyone thinks this is a good response. Because they were paying attention. Power attracts. So does submission, in some cases. A shared sense of humor attracts. Excitement and trust can attract. A talent for music or storytelling makes men more attractive. Looks aren't everything. You can pretend everyone's shallow, if you're paranoid or insecure, but the world's just going to keep falling in love, with or without all the innocent cynics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:36 PM
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The ones driving themselves past exhaustion to help as many people as possible, while happily breaking any rules or social norms that would prevent them from doing so. I read a study once, that would place them at 1/75th of the population vs. 1/24th or so sociopaths. Anyways, neuroscientists think the difference between the two might be in their amygdala - sociopaths tend to have a smaller, slower one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 09:39 AM
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Or, you could study what stress does to people's relationships, and focus on how the entire concept of dread game is just rebranded passive-aggressive psychological abuse from bitter shitheads who think an adult conversation will destroy their fragile grip on power. Insulting them just because they pointed out the flaws in your methodology is poor form - yes, they're infuriating, but learn from them, and their perspectives. It's part of becoming more persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:24 PM
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I imagine so. Well, good luck with continuing to fight all the education out there. Stick to your safe places, and only take in the perspectives that won't upset you. You'll always have a home where nobody gives a shit about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:17 PM
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Christ, she and I can't even stand to talk to each other about many issues, but she's who she claims to be. And she's far more genuine than most people in the world, when she's not trying to offend everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 09:10 PM
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Hmm. Still no sign you know what you're talking about. But good job sticking to the "Being aware of a problem is narcissism" theme. Clearly, your ignorance about racism and refusal to deal with direct evidence reveals that you're the least racist person on the planet. Say some more desperate things if you've got the time. You've got a gift for metaphor, and it's rare to see your type not fleeing in terror from figurative language.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:56 PM
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There is no well thought out White supremacist aim to infiltrate the government. Remember when Steve Bannon called our current immigration problems a "Camp of Saints" problem? Damn, Trump must have been really disturbed by that. Or maybe not. Well, that explains his use of the pardon, anyways. Here's the FBI report I mentioned earlier, for everyone who didn't leave the nursery yesterday. Your insults are cute, kiddo, but come back when you've got a non-racist reason to justify black people servi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:41 PM
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No shit? Damn, that knowledge will help everybody dealing with a racist in a uniform. "Hey, FBI, you were racists for worrying about the organized attempt by white supremacists to infiltrate law enforcement! Don't you know? We've solved that problem!" And everyone knows being black in a courtroom wins you diversity points. Have you absorbed any other right wing talking points?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:15 PM
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Yes, part of RP understanding comes from "their own failures". We call this "learning". "Nobody else does this "learning" thing. When we look at you guys, we see our past selves." Hence, projection. You don't know shit about us, and you don't want to, because it takes you back to a bad place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:04 PM
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Oh, right. White nationalists are totally lower than black suspects, men who are beat/raped by their girlfriends, and poor women who need an abortion, but may not be able to afford to travel that far. Especially those white nationalists who know what a plausible deniability is. Tell me more about what you get out of hanging out in your online shelter?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 08:01 PM
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You realize they're not even subtle about it? And you're one to talk about conspiracy theories. "All our critics are just liars who are jealous! FUCK THE SJW CABAL!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:57 PM
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How does every serial killer next door behave? How did people behave after a lobotomy? You can try to be awesome to as many people as possible, but there have to be things about you that aren't sanded down. Things you're willing to take a stand for, even when it's not popular - what really matters to you? Those things are what'll get you invited to really get close to people whose unsanded bits are compatible. It's why so much useful advice is actually completely contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:53 PM
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Right, all of these problems are really about social hierarchies. You're amazingly sheltered for someone who's only note is cynicism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:44 PM
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Really? I just embraced creepy, and ran with it. Everyone had a lot of fun. Doors opened up, and I got better with practice. It turns out, all along, one of the creepiest things you can do is trying to act like a normal ordinary pod person, and not offend anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 07:41 PM
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And refusing to ever yield is exactly the kind of shit we former blackpill guys used to do, before we realized that sometimes, it really does pay off to yield. But sure, if it didn't work for you guys, it can't possibly have worked for so many other people. That plot twist would wreck the exciting "They Live" remake you guys have going.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:54 PM
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At least BP makes an effort to understand. RP's understanding of the bluepill simply comes from their own failures in life, and a lot of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:38 PM
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This is how everyone else knows the redpill is compromising on a lot of other things to find attractive young women. It never even occurred to you that in a disagreement she might be right, instead of just seeking mindless comfort/peakcocking status displays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:36 PM
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I know, it really is. You'd think they'd figure out that everyone has their own problems to deal with, but the anger phase seems to be what brings men in, and keeps them in. It's a safe space, in it's own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:29 PM
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Or who has other interests besides hating random strangers for not fucking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:15 PM
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You realize that /r/incels frequently goes private, and they go argue for themselves in whatever sub is making fun of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:13 PM
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Dating is one of those things that we’re supposed to be good at with no practice and no detailed feedback. We just know when it works or doesn’t. The easiest way to improve your dating skills is to take a female friend to lunch and talk her through your last date -- your clothes, your venue choice, your conversation, your end of date approach. She will have opinions on all these things, and next time you’ll be better for it. Damn, they just called out the redpill's ridiculous "Don't ask the fish…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:10 PM
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Because the amazing power of stereotypes is that you can use anyone's behavior to make absolute rules, that totally support your random and poorly thought out opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:02 PM
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I like how you think I just bring those topics up in casual conversation with people I've just met. Tell me more about how your perfectly normal mind imagines me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:04 PM
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No problem! Another social flirting game is "Us vs. the world." Injokes go a long way with this one, and it helps to just mirror the other person, if you're feeling it all too. Protip: Don't be afraid to lean in, and nod occasionally, or show other signs of life - all so they know you enjoy hearing from them. Do not cross your arms. I will break them. Anyways, the idea behind this one is to rant. Or plot. But now it's a conspiracy! You're both in on whatever barely taboo thing you've both come u…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:26 PM
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Bingo. Plus everyone who picks up their poison. Or who believes their catfishing. And the survivors of the suicides, and the murders. Because their family, friends, and loved ones are also victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 07:03 PM
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Ask every guy who has problems talking to women like they're fellow human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:52 PM
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It's their way of encouraging the lonely. They may not be aware their tantrum is breaking things, but it is, all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:43 PM
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Usually, there's set styles of flirting. Like, the chaser and the chasee, or masculine and feminine, if you prefer to label them in traditional ways. Though the latter two are misleading. But either way, in this co-op game, the chaser's job is to notice who is signaling they might be interested in a chase. The chasee's job is to manage to do this, without being caught, because some people are amazing hypocrites. It helps if they're genuinely innocent, but good luck keeping that innocence in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:34 PM
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Nancy Friday's done some amazing work in collecting women's fantasies. Originally, you'd have counted it all as redpill, but by the 90's, with Women on Top, there was just as much diversity to be found as there was in men's imaginations. Sexual liberation wasn't nearly as redpilled as the redpill claims. Beyond that, most bluepillers aren't looking for an all in one book, because we think that's an insane goal. If you want to develop your sense of humor, focus on that. If you need to work on rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:55 PM
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I just hang out with interesting people, and if we're at all sexually compatible, we end up teasing each other into meltdown mode. I'm really not sure how you guys manage to complicate all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:39 PM
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Normal people have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. I never have problems offline, or anywhere besides my interactions with STEMlords and the manosphere. It's pretty clear that the folks who need advice on basic social skills aren't in any position to define what's normal. So, keep typing your impotent confusion at me. When you can't actually defend your side, it's apparently all you've got left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:34 PM
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Because I'm talking to someone who knows what all of these concepts are. If I wrote every post for the incel audience, I'd never be able to do anything else. You're also assuming that if you haven't seen - or can't remember, more likely - us describing alternatives in detail, they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:31 PM
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If you want to pretend abortion rights aren't under attack, men aren't being arrested for their wives' violence, and black people have no reason to worry about the white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement, go ahead - it's not like you need to worry about any of it, so anyone who cares must just be a professional victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:24 PM
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Here, let me demonstrate how easy this is for normal people. So their actual differences don't count Of course they do. Racists may hate black women just as much as they hate black men, while MGTOW have a clear preference. I can't believe you need a cheat sheet. It just says that MGTOW aren't racist. They're sexist. Whole other ist. But. You not being able to make any sense of it is something I can't make fun of, without possibly being another kind of ist myself. So, I'm going to check my privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:12 PM
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Nah, it's dumbed down enough already. If you're still lost, I'm not allowed to observe what that says about you. But around these parts, I'm sure you'll find plenty of sympathetic company.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:05 PM
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Call me crazy, but Reddish spaces are pretty much the only ones I've seen offering real advice on how to not be boring. There's not a single other place that tells you how to deliver a joke? Do you really need it all spelled out for you, how the rule of three or crossing the line twice might be related to entertainment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:03 PM
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Cool, you can't read a blessed thing, unless it's spelled out for you. How do you survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:01 PM
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Careful not to conflate dominating with leading. Good point. But I volunteered to join the BDSM subculture, so the positive end of domination vs. the alternative is where my mind immediately goes. Domination with a submissive done right, isn't at all different from the captain/first mate dynamic, except the poly among them might have an entire pirate's crew, or welcome a mermaid to swim by their side and sing a few tales. (That's the G rated telling of it, anyways.) One common phrase in RP is wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:58 PM
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It is silly, however, to claim it only exists if you can't see her laugh lines. Especially if you then complain about how she's "The oldest child in the room." and expect any sympathy to be thrown your way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:11 PM
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That sounds like a beautiful thing. It really is. I like seeing you tied up in a happy ending. Thank you. I hope things are going good for you, too. And if not, don't let the villains win.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:03 PM
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We're talking about those who have not had proper socialization growing up, no male role models, suffering from anxiety, etc. Those could all describe me. But I know what you mean - despite the restrictions on my social life growing up, if it wasn't pretty easy for me to make friends, I'd be desperate for the obvious things nobody describes. And after meeting a few masculine role models - some of them unapologetic cis women - I must admit there are things that Yang has, that Yin can learn from. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:58 PM
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It's just that I assume nobody's interested, and usually I'm right. It's...ugly. I can be laughing at inappropriate jokes like anyone else, and I'm a cruel tease for those who earn it, but when they imply that teasing is going places... Here. This demonstrates how it all feels. Everything inside me is just wired wrong. For a long time, I'd hit flight or fight, and just run away, or tease people like a complete sadist, while making sure they got nothing in return. Then I'd wonder why I was alone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:41 PM
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And where, praytell, can you find this advice outside of TRP? Most of us found flirting came naturally, and any improvement was in the area of losing our inhibitions + style and safety pointers. TRP's taking a good idea - just breaking it all down for idiots with a broken sense of empathy - and adding a metric ton of image board nonsense and right wing manifestos. Kind of like your post. Don't believe me? Just go into MRP and read all the success stories And simply ignore the success stories com…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:24 PM
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Seduction and dating coaches have taught me how to be more exciting in texts by using whit, humor, and playful teasing. I was taught by a Domme, and all those things helped made me a better lover too - though I'm always open to learning more. I also use honesty, open communication, and kindness, because only boring people make those things boring. I'm not really sure what you're aiming for. You seem to be fighting a strawman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:14 PM
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So their actual differences don't count Of course they do. Racists may hate black women just as much as they hate black men, while MGTOW have a clear preference. just your bad feels And you're offended because I don't care about your bad feels. No one cares to confirm your feelings. Especially if they share MGTOW's sense of bitter paranoia. I can do it too - Aww, you built me a strawman. Next you'll bullshit your way into thinking I made one for you, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:11 PM
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B/c it itself isn't a philosophy of blind hatred It's more like a philosophy of finding excuses for their hatred, and staying informed of whenever an exciting new possibility shows itself. Which is where many racists are, actually. or desire for subjugation of another group of people. They just wish pregnant women were forced to give birth, and men could get away with "financial abortion". Totally sane and rational. . It is essentially men who decided they don't like Poker While pissing on coupl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:01 PM
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I've seen low status men who don't struggle to find someone - haven't you? If you're caught up in social hierarchies, a pure alpha (leader)/beta (follower) divide doesn't describe the world. Instead, it looks like something a sheltered teenager came up with, while jacking off to the Wallstreet Journal. If you're not, you don't take much of this very seriously to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 02:46 PM
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The question was how their bullshit about women was different from racism? It says everything that your first response was "Well, they aren't racist."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 02:33 PM
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Especially when you ignore history and over-simplify everything. I mean, it's not like some people on all sides don't do it too, but compared to the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 02:32 PM
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It's less suspicious if you care about the person. If you're going to frame someone, at least know how to cover up your motive. But if you'll excuse me, I'm going to be very sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 09:53 AM
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The accuser doesn't have to provide any evidence Just point a finger and she wins? Horror stories aside, that's not how it works. She has to prove she didn't consent to the sex, and that she's not abusing the court system. If she has mental health problems, they will be used against her. If she's a sex worker, it will be used against her. Any kind of relationship will be used against her. If her reaction to a traumatic event is to make inappropriate jokes about it, same as many other survivors, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 12:21 PM
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If you want to move to a country where killing you and taking your money is the only way someone can keep their baby alive, feel free. It's just that around these parts, most people are moved by real human suffering more than your feelings of being violated by the social safety net.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 07:53 AM
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One question, you're a guy? Yeah, although I get asked that question a lot. Or it's simply assumed that I must be a woman. I understand phobia of sex. I was scared shitless when couple of girls were touching me and approaching me in early teens . How did you overcome it? Yet I think that most girls don't understand how hard is to be and exist like average men. I don't think the average man is struggling to find someone. I've never met a guy who couldn't, unless they were incel or obsessed with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 01:45 AM
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I was a model tier kid long enough to know that model tier people still have their own problems in life. I mean, sure, there are benefits to having "My smile is a legal drug" as a superpower, but some of them are starved for good conversation, and good looks can be a double edged sword if someone's interest turns ugly. Especially when they're addicted to you. It's not something only model cheekbones deal with, but it's something that can happen much faster for them. And then there's the casual r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:00 PM
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Probably for the best. I dated a few much younger women, because we shared common ideals, interests, and age is "just a number", right? Besides, when I was their age, I wanted a mentor who was older than me, to give me the benefit of their experience. How could I deny someone else that wish? Never again. Turns out that even if someone can say all the right things, actually doing them is another matter entirely. An adolescent brain doesn't completely go away until your mid-twenties, and until the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:52 PM
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Men tend to physically peak in their early to mid twenties, More than a few women prefer faces with character to the unformed embryonic faces of youth. A hard fetish for the young is more of a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:33 PM
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So, I noticed you wanted RP to be wrong about every woman being sexually submissive. They kind of are. Roughly 25% of women are attracted to a power imbalance either way. Switches are way more common than pure Dommes. And then there's the men and women who just tag team the whole thing as equal partners, even if the idea offends the good puritans over in the anti-feminist camp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:23 PM
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Here, have a blue pill. Contrary to popular belief, we're not simply making this shit up. Like you, I know what I've seen and experienced. It's just different from what you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:14 PM
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Try calming down, and read the actual criticisms. The redpill is a self-selective minority, and there are a lot of people who experience the world differently than they do. Their politics frequently color their claims. They cherry pick data. Any men who aren't on board with the sloppy heuristics will find a hostile reception. Misogyny is considered a selling point, which further distorts the message. You're too busy being offended to actually defend redpill claims about women all sharing a singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:03 PM
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Ah, got it - the best redpill thinkers are the only ones who can be debated, and we're supposed to ignore the actual behaviors of most redpills on Reddit. Example. Love the part where you skipped everything else I said, just to be offended by my tone. Especially since I was only returning your casual contempt - I just assumed it was the standard dress code. You really are an SJW. (Alas, not the kind who actually seeks social justice.) But nice way of dodging the whole "The redpill is stupid abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:54 PM
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100 guys experience X And it's just a coincidence, not at all worth noticing, that they're all either bad with social skills or survivors of relationships with shitty people who need to harden up for their own good. What's a self-selection? Probably just another word liberals made up to cloud right thinking minds, like empathy or nuance. 1 guy claims to experience Y, and that X is wrong. Unfortunately for him, the 100 guys he's attempting to debate have no pattern recognition, and have already f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 07:40 PM
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Okay, so all women are passively waiting for Chad to spin them into a wall when he does that helicopter trick. I'm sure it's magical. How does your fantasy life/casual shitposting explain the kind of women who sexually assault vulnerable men, or the happy sex lives of men who don't look like TRP's most forbidden thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:59 PM
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so in other words, guys use their own lives as petrie dishes, report findings, then develop theories to explain them, further honing them over time? You forgot the part where they call other men with different experiences delusional cucks, insist any women who don't live up to their heuristics are attention whores, and are ridiculously offended when you try to debate them on the topic. If being "a man" is something that must be earned, I'm really not sure those scared little boys can qualify. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:51 PM
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Stacy has less self awareness. According to manosphere mythology, she's more like a privileged child who just lives life to the fullest, without a care in her pretty little head. Then, when she hits 30 (some say late twenties), it's all Game of Thrones, as she turns into a soul crushing backstabber, bitter at her lot in life, and trying to make the most of her fading sex appeal. This is why the alt-right needs to steal other people's metaphors and cartoon frogs - their own stories and characters…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:35 PM
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It reviews two studies from decades ago, because they're the studies still most frequently referenced by people trying to create a panic. We know that different percentages of women claim rape, depending on how one asks. For example, the number rises if you describe the rape, instead of calling it a rape. I'm not sure how this helps your case. Also, in all contested criminal trials, the defendant will accuse his accuser of lying. Indeed they will. Why should rape accusations be different? They'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:28 PM
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No problem! I had to learn the hard way too. Now I either do what we described, or look for something completely counter-intuitive that'll challenge almost everyone on PPD. Just remember, you're not just dealing with lawyers and scientists here (though they're common, and some of us have more than a passing familiarity with both legal theory and the scientific method) - there's also a large casual crowd that may need a bit of help when switching from intuitive thinking to a deeper analytical dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 04:38 PM
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Because those who claim the majority are lying have been reliably full of shit. A false accusation is one of the worst things you can do to someone - it destroys their ability to feel safe in intimacy, much the same as a rape can. And if it leads to prison time? That's a kidnapping, as far as I'm concerned. More needs to be done to prevent it, and assist the victims. But not at the cost of accusing every single traumatized rape victim of committing the crime. In the vast majority of cases, when …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 03:38 PM
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I don't understand if you were agreeing or not. But I'm backed by science on this one. Those who suffer from a medical lack of emotions struggle to make snap decisions, but they're still capable of laboriously thinking through every single factor that creates a preference and driving everyone else mad. Source: The observations of patient mental health workers who really deserve more appreciation. Emotions are just an evolutionary shortcut. Really? Why do you believe this? Sarcasm. You're implyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 02:42 PM
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The problem with a debate forum is that usually whenever there's something sensible written, everyone sensible's going to just agree with it. If you want a good conversation, it usually involves clarifying something one side passionately disagrees with, so they can create better arguments against, and face better counterarguments in turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:40 AM
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Since no decisions can be made in the brain without being guided by emotion - For example, I'm emotionally attached to every single word I've just written. Any apathy I'm feeling at this moment is...no, wait! Crap, without emotions I'm unable to continue! My life is over! I'm turning to stone! Edit: Also, learned behavior and values are totally a myth. So are basic survival instincts. And laws regarding driving. Anyone who claims to have made a practical decision without any messy emotions getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:27 AM
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This got interesting. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Is this another case like general public theory and the scientific definition? confident and direct in claiming one's rights or putting forward one's views One of the British definitions offered at your link, just to further confuse the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:55 AM
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So, like Dr. Oz? Because he just might be the medicine we need. Wait, my intern's telling me something. Huh...oh. No, not him, then. We need a man of the people, who isn't afraid to call out the world as he sees it, but has media connections...a self promoter. Oh, Vince McMahon! Any racism in the past seems pretty deniable. He even owns his own network, so... Oh, that was my intern again. Apparently, this is all bad for his heart. Look, I can't be expected to do background researches. You unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:38 AM
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Well, in that case, I'm sure there's always find someone talking about just how horrible our victims villains are. Aren't they so very brave? After all, there's been a long history of people quietly talking about the story the media is missing, even if we had to seed the narrative a bit. And provide talking points to our totally organic grass roots campaign. Who's manning our phones, again? Oh, wait. I almost forgot. We don't even have a candidate yet. Crap. It's so easy to forget the little thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:26 PM
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Seriously, the standard definition is not confidently aggressive. That's a new definition brought to us by the same folks who really want the passive resentment of men in "the friendzone" to define average. It's how ordinary people can get elevated to Chad status now - at least according to /r/incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:17 PM
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Please...stop helping the internet destroy the meaning of "Assertive." It's just good communication, where you acknowledge where you stand, find out where someone else stands, and come to an understanding. It's between aggressive and passive, not a synonym for the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:27 PM
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Ah. My apologies. I'm not used to anyone being adults about all of this. x. x I'm like the kindergarden teacher who suddenly shouts "Look, fire truck!", when they're off-work, and spends the rest of the night praying for a quick and sudden death.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:24 PM
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It's always happening in politics. I just described pages from a literal playbook. The fun thing is that everyone assumes everyone else is doing it, so the system can no longer filter out those who genuinely are incompetent to perform public duty or reward the most deserving. Anyone who attempts to do so, will be under an extra handicap - they've obviously lost their objectivity, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:57 PM
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I miss WW1 too. The good old days when masculinity was untamed, and was happy to take itself out of the gene pool. Why did anyone ever start questioning it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:49 PM
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For example, many members of the alt-right. I'm not sure what gullible conspiracy theorists and their pet hates have to do with trans men and women, though... Edit: Maybe you can rant about some of your own favorites to help?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 09:18 PM
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Let's see if we can't find a simple black and white answer to a gray issue. Is he okay with the sex? Seems so, if we take him at face value. Don't know why anyone might question it. But questioning everyone's sincerity is the path towards madness. So, probably not rape, because he doesn't consider it unwelcome. Kind of like how some relationships, including my own, allow for consensual non-consent, in order to navigate complicated grey areas. With that said, was she taking advantage? Of course. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:52 PM
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It's kind of hard to avoid extreme examples, without exposing couples with no public profile to internet harassment they're probably not equipped to handle. But consider this - how many incels represent an extreme outlier? Because I've yet to see one who can't improve their circumstances. You're only incel because you're demisexual, have standards, and haven't recovered from your past. Incels moderator Carkudo is an incel, because...oh, wait, nevermind. His girlfriend took his virginity. Is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:19 PM
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Oh, c'mon. It's easy. Here, let me help. Pick an insult - any insult. Now find someone who represents it. Doesn't matter whether they're red, blue, black, white, or transparent. All that matters, is that they live up to the insult. Congratulations, you've found your personality for the entire group they belong to. Or that you can pretend they do. Just remember, it's a common sense heuristic now, not a stereotype. Now find something that the average member of your base is guilty of. Find the peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:37 PM
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The threshold is incapacitation, not intoxication. Otherwise, drinking would be outlawed completely, since it's the only way to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:28 PM
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no evidence Not to someone who can't read people, anyways. You're pretty shit at it, or you'd have a rebuttal that isn't smirk deep. But why stop there? C'mon, lay some more blackpills on me. There's so much bliss out there for you to be ignorant about!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:07 PM
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Odd. You completely skipped past all the evidence for it, and remain hung up on looks. Just like most incels. Edit: It's an oddly familiar story...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:00 PM
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While you conveniently pretend his natural charm and wit has nothing to do with the success of his comedy/singing career. Besides, Duchenee smiles on everyone? Are you unfamiliar with how a shitty relationship actually works? Here, let me remind you. But wait, I forgot. On planet incel, a sense of humor is bad! What could be the explanation!? So. Do you have any other hamsters you'd like to throw at the cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:49 PM
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Now you've got it. You're totally ready for politics! Oh, no, wait - I almost forgot. You need to master the third concept, neutrality. It sounds complicated, but really, it's just a matter of declaring everyone else equally right, or equally wrong. Kind of like how there are intersexed people. But I swear that's the last complication. Honest. Mostly. Kind of.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:40 PM
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Damn, look at all that bliss. But do go ahead, you're about to be ignorant?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:27 PM
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Especially if we ignore the definition of mentally ill, the way you just did, and make up our own. But for everyone who isn't terrified of reality, trans brains are simply reporting their state accurately. You are aware that we're not all little blank slates? It's simply easier to change the body to match them, rather than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:20 PM
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Thanks for the invitation, but I'm finished with running away, and it's worked out wonderfully for me. It's best to leave the fantasy for those without any actual experience to complicate matters. They seem to do a great job of policing their community to keep it that way - shout out to azavii!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:10 PM
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Here, allow me. Because magic. You see, there are many forces in the universe, of which, heterosexuality (good) and homosexuality (evil, boo! his!) are just two of many. Heterosexuality depends on a Yin and Yang balance, a light side and a dark side, forever in conflict, but attached in a circle of life. Each one has a seed of the other, buried deep where nobody else can see it. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is everything gay - which is apparently an exhaustive catalog of sins according to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:59 PM
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They have a completely different definition of involuntary celibate than us. And yet, the causes remained the same. Poor social skills, a lack of experience, and a negative self-appraisal. And that's assuming we ignore all the obviously volcels that /r/incels welcomes, so long as they're misogynistic enough to avoid upsetting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:25 PM
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My love doesn't taste exactly like my exes, and they were all pretty cis, assuming nobody invented ways for trans women to menstrate. As for scent, I'm sure they'd need to first ignore the scent of estrogen, unless we're dealing with an exotic trans woman who wants to look as manly as possible. I know that right wing cartoonists run into them constantly, so there must be a flood of them, somewhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:21 PM
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I don't even understand what 'male brained' really means. You can get by, simply by assuming it talks about either autism or a gender identity. (Some tomboys will also embrace this label.) It all involves masculinized brain bits, but different ones. Who knew that complex biological systems don't all meet an even standard, 100% of the time? It's better not to think about it, and just scream at strangers who remind you that real life isn't "Leave it to Beaver", as the redpill recommends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:10 PM
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Don't you think a straight man could tell the difference between a biological vagina and an artificially constructed vagina? No, I don't, because I've read their opinions on the subject. Most are already pretty shit at figuring out how breasts work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:05 PM
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Just once, I'd love to see PPD engage transgender identity with a hint of intellectual honesty, instead of rushing to out edgelord each other. I can't wait for the first misuse of the Swedish study, or a citation from a credible pseudoscientific source like The New Atlantis. As for whether it's gay for a man to have sex with a surgically altered transwoman, I'm sure that those who obsess over the beauty of Chad Thundercock are on the edge of their seats waiting for an answer. They need to be far…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:51 PM
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The only men who need to worry about being unable to read whether or not they have consent to escalate are extreme outliers. The only people who think nobody ever freezes up during an unwanted sexual assault, are extreme outliers. And the fears of false accusations are exaggerated. Why is any of this a redpill issue, if not the usual far right politics?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:39 PM
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in all likelihood, the relationship between these barriers and involuntary celibracy is reciprocal, rather than unidirectional. As has been confirmed approximately a billion times since, everywhere that incels aren't able to censor the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:16 PM
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They're talking about two different experiences. Remember, the children of the 60's were seeing the ugly reality of the dreams of the 50's. The idea of empowering women was both novel and heartfelt, rather than just another corporate branding. So yes, for women who really did have something to offer, taking a bit of confident pride in it all? That simple subversion helped. Also, Otis's lyrics could just as easily be enabling a co-dependency, if we're going to read the worst into them. Really, bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:02 PM
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What's so hard to understand about "Dating isn't consent"? If a date is going terrible, there's just no hint of attraction on any level - and you decide it'll end in sex anyways? Or if it's going great, but a kiss at the end just wasn't enough? You don't win any points if they can't struggle. Meanwhile, the only people terrified that their date will be totally into it, and then suddenly stealth freeze? They're terrible lovers who don't give a shit about their partners to begin with. Their entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:52 PM
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Fine. Claiming it's just a meme is still rightwing ignorance. It's not exactly something the left or center is struggling with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:25 PM
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Even a starfish will put more effort into your experience than someone completely unresponsive due to shock trauma. Is there a single good reason not to check in with either one?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:14 PM
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If most women who accuse lie Except they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:10 PM
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There's a difference between the kind of fear that triggers flight, fight, or freeze, and the kind that allows you to carefully map out everything you do. Whether or not it is reasonable. You're taking us back to the original post you made, which had nothing to with the topic. Stop burning strawmen, and move on already.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 03:10 PM
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Fight, flight, or freeze is only new because freeze wasn't studied. It's bad to scare people for science. After second wave feminism changed the way we looked at survivor stories, we stopped completely ignoring them. After the internet made us aware of the rapists' perspectives, we took them into consideration as well. So yes, it's all become more common for people to discuss the topic recently. Claiming it's just a leftwing meme is rightwing ignorance. How any of this can't be read in my previo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:54 PM
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Where are you lost?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:43 PM
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Seems there are a lot of people who don't get the respect they deserve. Here's his. Here's her's. Feel free to choose a side and attack every other opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:42 PM
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Fight, flight, or freeze is new, because tonic immobility was neglected. It's illegal to put college students into that state, and you'd need to be a clever sadist to create a situation where their first instinct wouldn't be one of the other two. As for date rape, until the second wave, it used to be considered part of the game. Besides, the whole awareness of someone being too dense to read a complete lack of enthusiasm from their partner? Or pretending they can't, at any rate? Most psychology …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:30 PM
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Meanwhile, in 1985. But sure, just keep telling yourself that everyone who ever experienced it is weak. If you don't experience it, it must not be real. No wonder why you're red flared.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:22 PM
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Also, here's something you might find of interest. I can source my other arguments, as well, but I'm not entirely sure why you disagree, or whether we disagree at all, on some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:54 PM
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So, you agree with AFBB? Kind of. AFBB begins with the seed of an actual problem, but then goes off the rails into full blown right wing conspiracy politics. For example, how does it categorize a sensual massage? It's both comfort and sexual. How does AF/BB handle pair bonding, besides screaming to drown out all the cruel laughter at its expense? And again, why is it obsessed with the idea that no woman could possibly be interested in an egalitarian relationship, or one where she's in charge? Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:52 PM
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If it was the best job for every man, why do so many fail the basic "Take your pants off now." test? And you're aware that those poses are uncomfortable for many people? Then there's all the timing expectations. And the lack of long term stability. You might not want to get into this, if you're looking at a political career, or plan to work with kids. Some people are quick to judge. In the end, it's really only for straight men who enjoy what it has to offer, and are realistic about the possible…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:32 PM
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Since when was genital herpes something porn studios considered a plus in their casting decisions? You're really overestimating their patience for post production FX.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 01:28 PM
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99% of "day after i was afraid" date rapes, the woman had plenty of opportunities to get out, and actually gave off signs of being into the guy. Source: Anecdotal data. Fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:55 PM
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AFBB is an excellent example, because it's suffering from being tied to the original pessimistic heuristic, about a dual mating strategy. What is she supposed to do, when one guy treats her with kindness and respect, but is otherwise boring, and the other is Chad Thundercock? Unfortunately for the claim, the only women who pursue such a thing behind other people's backs are those who suffer from a lack of maturity, and no other options for finding a well rounded partner. The worst of the worst, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:48 PM
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Everyone agrees on common behaviors. The only difference is that some folks want "common" to mean "The vast majority of people." and can't be bothered to debate the issue in good faith. They'll instead claim to speak for 99/100 people, and pretend to be victims of censorship when anyone calls them out on it. Edit: It's a question if they even understand the basic concept of a debate in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:18 PM
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Well, you're off to a good start. Most people aren't naturally fully masculine or fully feminine, as traditionalists would identify the two, because societal custom came into play.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 12:05 PM
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Easy answer: Many don't care about their partners. Others struggle with basic empathy, and if they haven't experienced something for themselves, it must be because others are weak and making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:50 AM
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Because you had the common sense not to turn it into a sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:48 AM
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Your being unaware of something doesn't mean it didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:48 AM
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I like how even the military has experience with it, and trains to avoid it, but there's "not enough evidence" for him. And apparently, Google scholar is in on the conspiracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:46 AM
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What does "naturally feminine" have to do with not being a black and white thinker? Who said all women are naturally feminine? Who said that all femininity is good femininity? You love burning your strawmen, don't you? I'm sure the scarecrow is terrified. There are, they post stuff like "naturally feminine is goo That strawman was too stupid to even let you finish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 11:38 AM
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Some of my friends and my first girlfriend also shared your condition. They read books on body language, observed cause and effect, and learned it all the same way people learn everything else. Stop using your handicap as an excuse to remain powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 10:58 PM
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The reasonable person standard is often interpreted by unreasonable people. Often when writing good law, the question is how to anticipate their concerns/plans, and answer them in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 09:01 PM
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Well first of all, that's pretty different from the colloquial sense of freezing up. Yeah, it's really not like the kind of freezing up shy/inhibited people do. You really wouldn't miss this, if it happened to your partner. This kind of freezing up is an involuntary freeze survival response - those hit by it, literally can't provide any resistance, because "Play dead" would have kept them safe from other types of predators, and the brain and body are shutting down anything that would make them l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 08:18 PM
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Is someone not moving or responding in any way to a sudden and unexpected demonstration of your sexual technique a common experience for you? Do they often have wide shattered eyes, and, when questioned later, a flat voice, that sounds like it came from far, far, away? Just asking. If so, you might want to slow things down a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:49 PM
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I want to say that generally the law is going to treat character faults like this as the burden of the person who has them "Yay, I has a blank check to rape any PTSD victim with a freeze response! Thank you, WhiskersNT!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:07 PM
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Sounds good to me. But how does your legal standard deal with an aggressive drunk, or someone who hits a shock/freeze state with no weapons involved? I've seen some people claim that you don't need a blackout state to rape someone with lowered inhibitions, and they can't seem to tell the difference between "Watch out world, I've just unchained myself." and "Where am I? Who are you? Are you nice?" And the sociopathic sexual predator community objects to the idea that a sudden unresponsive shock s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 05:39 PM
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Is that why lesbian relationships have the highest break-up rates And the highest rates of rushing into relationships. Okay...I'll wait 5 seconds while you flush that fact from your memory. It's really poor manners for us to keep interrupting your favorite rant with all that pedantic context. and gay relationships have the lowest? Because they're more likely to take advantage of the singles scene before committing? Okay, and another 5 seconds of grace for you to forget you heard that too... BECA…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 05:11 PM
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It's almost like there's more than one woman out there. And it's almost like some people, both men and women don't know how they'll respond to a sudden high pressure/anxiety inducing situation before it actually happens. Especially if they have little real world experience in dealing with a black and white thinker who can't figure out how to deal with nuance. And resents everyone who doesn't share that crippling cognitive handicap. But nah, it's all a clever evil plot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:52 PM
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Those are what the informed critics are arguing - and it's why it's not a common legal standard, just the same as not prosecuting more accusers for being unable to prove their side of the story. How do you prove a He said/she situation one way or the other, to the point where it's legally enforceable? But I've lost count of how many conversations I've had, where nonverbal consent is allowed, but not nonverbal rejection. There's a very ugly hypocrisy, on Reddit, and it's going to get someone hurt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:43 PM
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You need to actually start an enthusiastic consent thread, before anyone will remember they can't possibly be expected to understand any sign she's not feeling it. They're not very good at picking up on subtext.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:09 PM
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Pure dominance, sure. Many are switches. But yes, even then, you're correct that it's a minority preference. I believe the last time I read up on it, only one in 4 of the women surveyed had any interest in a relationship where she called the shots. It turns out that a difference in power is simply a turn-on for many men and women, no matter who leads and who follows. In other words, dominant women aren't rare at all. The manosphere is objectively wrong - as is usual whenever it comes to their em…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:56 PM
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But I do think it's telling What did you mean, by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:05 PM
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They'll claim it's fighting fire with fire, but considering they only pay attention to the worst of the left, and clearly enjoy their work, it's pretty much just a cover for being a thinly disguised hate group. At least, for too many of them. But that wasn't how it was supposed to work, originally. Originally, the language was just intended to shock men out of complacency, and keep women out of the lockerroom. It's anyone's guess when the MGTOW/incels/dumb kids hijacked the redpill subreddit, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 08:22 AM
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You realize that women's bodies are more sensitive to testosterone, than men's? It doesn't take near as much as you imagine. Claiming every women with a bit of dominance, must be suffering from a medical condition? It's just an awkward dodge for those who can't handle anyone else living outside the rules that bind them. And besides, even those with medical conditions have so much more to offer than a label. It's kind of hypocritical that the men who most fear being judged are so very often the q…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 06:09 AM
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Yes, I know. It's hilarious. Or did you mean, it's alien to you, as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 04:06 AM
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Yes, that's incredibly alien to them too. It's been fun watching them dig deeper and deeper into denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:57 AM
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