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DebateJust_Fisherman4910/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 06:59 PM
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Question For MenJust_Fisherman4910/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:55 PM
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Re: "personality can build attraction" -> personality can make you interesting, yes, BUT -> personality will never make you sexually attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 05:35 PM
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Re: "why men will look at their very loved wife/gf completely different than how they look at women in porn or a sexy lady on the street" -> It's why most men have trouble looking at their wife/gf as a sexual being! It's not a positive thing! It's why tons of men prefer porn because there they are not judged for their sexuality by a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 12:16 PM
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That is very untrue! Feelings/emotions are physical! They happen in the body! I feel tired, I feel sleepy, I feel love (all feelings that happen in the body).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/26 11:51 AM
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That's what I'm asking you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:45 PM
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Re: "social welfare people" -> They are a HUGE part of the problem! Re: "In every scenario I have seen thus far, there is an unaccountable woman facilitating access to the abusers." -> I already wrote above "A sexually abusive MAN will always have an abusive WOMAN by his side who aids and abets his behaviour..." Re: "In every scenario I have seen thus far" -> You were NEVER ACTUALLY IN THE ROOM when those scenarios happened, so how would you know????? Please do not tell me that you are relying o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:34 PM
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"Choosing Better" is about women who get pumped and dumped. I was talking about sexual violence against children!!!!!!!!! Wtf is wrong with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 08:02 PM
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A sexually abusive MAN will always have an abusive WOMAN by his side who aids and abets his behaviour... Re: "women are the gatekeepers" -> see my comment above...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:36 PM
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Re: "there is far less violence against children than there used to be" -> Are you referring to physical violence only? -> There is a HUGE amount of psychological violence against children these days though...which I believe is at the very least just as damaging as physical violence used to be...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:32 PM
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You replied to the wrong person. I ONLY agreed with this specific aspect: "a lot of sexual assault, abuse, molestation and harassment occurs while underage and/or completely outside of the context of dating. "Choosing better" isn't applicable to the circumstances that many women have had to go through" -> This means parents, caretakers, teachers, etc. are the actual problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:20 PM
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Re: "If he still respects you even after you turn him down, then he's not acting entitled." -> Riddle me this, why did SHE turn HIM down in the first place??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:09 PM
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Why on earth would you believe that Jason Statham has not always been a narcissist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 07:05 PM
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Re: "Next such comment and I'm simply blocking you." -> Wow, that's such a mature thing to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:38 PM
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Re: "people can become narcissistic when they eg. become famous" -> No. It just means that you have to be a narcissist to become famous...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 06:33 PM
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You say: "So everyone should just believe you, a random dude on the internet." And you follow up with "I am your teacher and I know better than you" -> It kinda sounds like you BOTH believe you know better!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:45 PM
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The only reason speeding is illegal is because the police can make a lot of money by fining people for speeding...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:35 PM
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Re: " a lot of sexual assault, abuse, molestation and harassment occurs while underage and/or completely outside of the context of dating. "Choosing better" isn't applicable to the circumstances that many women have had to go through" -> Totally agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:28 PM
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Re: "we want MEN to change" -> Yes we dooooooo!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 05:22 PM
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Re: "when someone does whatever they want to do" -> What on earth is wrong with people doing what they want to do? I would say that it's healthy to do what you want to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 03:34 PM
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Re: "I associate sexual desire with intimacy" -> Of course you do, you are a woman, it's part of female sexuality -> Male sexuality is different, they still desire other women sexually when they are in a ltr/marriage, it's natural...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:24 PM
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Re: "I would not feel special if he wanted to use me as a sexual prop in his fantasies" -> You would make HIM feel special by doing it though...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:21 PM
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Re: "still say they love their gf/wife" -> They are literally lying to themselves and their gf/wife when they say that they love them! The easiest explanation is usually the truth...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:20 PM
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I actually do do know the specifics, because you did not describe an an actual situation. Rejection can happen in many ways, shapes, forms...and at different stages of the dating process... And, how exactly do they react, what are their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:52 PM
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So, you have met plenty of couples where the woman is physically violent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:48 PM
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Were you murdered by a man or have other first hand experience on the matter? Otherwise you are just rehashing newsapaper article propaganda...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:46 PM
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Imho, women ALWAYS have psychological superiority over men...we can calm them down or be the reason why they go through the roof...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:38 PM
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Please define "being rejected"!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:21 PM
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Re: "potentially coercing her into sex she doesn't want to have" -> May I ask all the men here to answer me this question: Have you ever been able to coerce a woman on this sub to say something she did not want to say????????
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 08:08 PM
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Re: "being a good father" -> This makes her appreciate you -> This does not make her feel sexually attracted to you If she is telling you that being a good father makes her feel sexually attracted to you then she is lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 04:30 PM
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You are totally mixing up cause and effect here: Re: "finding a good father to procreate with is the whole biological point of sex" -> That is your assumption, it's not actually true -> You are referring to the CONCEPT that the female chooses the male according to his genetic quality, that means the guy the woman wants to have sex with badly, NOT the guy the woman wants a relationship/marriage with... -> In the animal kingdom (mammals) mothers mostly raise the children by themselves, the concept…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 12:20 PM
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You totally misunderstood what I said. I said that if you choose a man as a husband ONLY for his potential of being a good father without being sexually attracted to him too that means marrying into a dead bedroom. Maybe you should ask yourself why you believe that being a good father would ever make a man sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:27 AM
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I did not see you make an argument. That was what I was pointing out!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:50 PM
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I am seriously doubting your reading skills now!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:42 PM
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Re: "There is a huge difference between “not looking after your baby” and wanting to maintain your identity outside of motherhood."" -> The topic here is "To create loving men, we must love males" -> The topic here is not what women might prefer Re: "They are propaganda pushed by an organization with an agenda." -> If you are a physician you work for the medical industrial complex - that's a trillion dollar industry! If someone should be questioned I believe it is that industry over anyone else!…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:27 PM
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Re: "And you can treat a kid however you want after age 4 and still correctly claim you unconditionally love them" -> You got to be kidding me, right? -> You f up the first four years you cannot make up for them from age four. But it's not about unconditional love 24/7 anymore. Interaction and engagement start to play a bigger role as the child wants to go to places, do things, have things, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 04:43 PM
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I think he already knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:50 PM
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Re: "No time for the gym?" -> You can exercise at home or there are classes where you can bring your baby/kid --> But let me tell you, if you carry a baby around all the time you definitely DO NOT need the gym anymore, you'll be fitter than before you got pregnant Re: "No time for a shit or shower by yourself?" -> Unless you are living in a mansion it's totally possible to leave the bathroom door open. Or if you do live in a mansion I am sure the bathroom is huge so take your kid (depending on a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 03:42 PM
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nope
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:35 PM
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Re: "Natural birth instead of what?" -> natural birth instead of hospital birth -> natural birth instead of epidural -> natural birth instead of cesarian
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:47 PM
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Father become extremely important from age 4! But a father cannot nourish a baby physically. A father can accommodate that the mother can nourish the baby 24/7 and take care of the mother by cooking/cleaning/nappy changing/etc. Re: "And it requires the mother to have 4 years of complete identity ablation of her own?" -> Yes, it's a 24/7 job!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:40 PM
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Re: "Men who are too attached to their mothers are usually not attractive to women" -> That is totally true! -> This is why your assumption - "Isn’t this just how to create a “mama’s boy”" - is totally incorrect Re: "Isn’t this just how to create a “mama’s boy”?" -> No. It's actually exactly the other way around. Adult men we call "Mama's boys" are raised by narcissistic mothers who do not want their son to grow up. Those mothers never gave the boy unconditional love (none of the things I mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:38 PM
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My libido went from high level before marriage to non-existant after marriage. Got divorced again pretty quickly (amicably). The experience gave me a lot of opportunity to grow and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 10:31 AM
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True! But this mostly applies to boys (babies, toddlers, children). Mothers need to love their baby, toddlers, children unconditionally! A boy who grows up with unconditional love from his mother is capable of growing into a healthy man. Unconditional love from mothers requires: - Natural birth - Not being physically separated after birth - Constant body contact with the mother in the first four years according to the child's needs (no babysitting, no childcare, no sleep training, sleeping in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 09:21 AM
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Re: "if she has already learned to associate attention from higher-level men with what she believes she should receive" -> But, if I work through this according to what you wrote that would mean that --> LTR with a looksmatch (long-term attention) is of equal weight as --> Casual attention from a higher-level man ? I cannot speak on this issue specifically because I have never met a man above my looksmatch, so I have no first hand experience. I only have experience with my looksmatch and below m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:49 AM
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I did this. I married a guy because he was a "good guy". Getting married was important to me. I was "out of his league", which made it easy to get him to marry me super quickly. I knew I was not sexually physically attracted to him but I did not care in the moment because all the married women I asked specifically about this told me that the guy needs to be "more in love with the woman" than the woman needs to be into the man (married women told me this was the secret to a lasting marriage). I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:26 AM
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As you are not interested in marriage, a woman who wants to get married would not be compatible with you. I believe as a result of your stance on marriage you are able to perceive women in a slightly different way to most men. Nevertheless your stance would also exclude a significant amount of women from your dating pool (those who seek marriage sooner or later). What do you mean when you say this? "to get what i want with no concern for her" If you are straightforward with them about who you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:34 PM
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This is soooooo true: "remember ladies, it’s okay for men to sleep around but not women, so you should make every man wait to have sex except me, even though i am nothing special. also if you make a man wait to have sex you are manipulative"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:14 PM
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Since you are not actually here to debate (I did ask about your opinion and you just ignored me) I am totally unwilling to engage with you specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:54 PM
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Re: "Even if that includes a low sex drive overall." -> Replace "low sex drive" with "non existent sex drive" and you are on target -> Suit yourself, but with zero women for "easy sex" you cannot actually do the "sleep around with women who are easy" part of the "male dating strategy" Re: "The terminology is not the issue here" -> Words matter. Change a word in a sentence with a word that has a different meaning and you might end up invalidating your whole argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:48 PM
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Men objectify women and wonder why women in return do not want anything to do with men who do this... Men are then choosing women who are sexually frugal with them for ltr/marriage and are as a result running around and complaining that she does not want to have sex with him ever... Say what you like but hoe is short for whore. You might as well use the correct word for your context, which is slut... Btw, women do not actually care what men call them...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:10 PM
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Tbh, I think that woman was trying to make herself appear like a super special deal to you by appearing to have a very high appetite for sex just because she "waited" to have sex... That would work if she was waiting for "the one" but it does not work if she is waiting for "a relationship with some guy". Why did the relationship end?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:36 PM
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If women choose men only for their potential to be a husband and father then they are NEVER going to be physically sexually attracted to him! If that is what a man and a woman want, then sure, marry into a dead bedroom!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:48 PM
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Re: "they've been holding out" -> The have been "holding out" for a relationship, not sex. Their highest goal is a relationship, not sexual chemistry and finding "the one". Are you currently in a relationship with one of those women you are describing or have you been in a relationship with one of those women that you are describing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:46 PM
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Re: "So women are like dogs?" -> The female and the male body are mammals! It's about instincts! -> Men and women are of course not like dogs because, unlike dogs, we have a mind, which is another layer. BUT, e. g.: Can a man watch porn from 6pm to 7pm without an orgasm and delay his body gratification (orgasm) by one hour until 8pm? No. Because the orgasm happens in the body and the mind gratification can aid in having the orgasm or increasing the quality of the orgasm but both have to happen a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:16 PM
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You are pre-selecting though. You assign a "high value" (sex with her is perceived as high value because it's only given by her in return for commitment) to certain women who fall exactly into this category. Yes, you might want to fuck them, but you are choosing women who very likely have an asexual tendency and as a result do not WANT to fuck anybody (they would prefer to never have to fuck anybody).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:08 PM
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Re: "It does work like that for women. Women are humans. Delayed gratification is a thing women experience. It seems I have a higher opinion of women than you." -> Are you a woman? If not then how would you know? Delayed gratification does not work for anyone on a physical level (be it man or woman). Only when the person pretends to themselves that delayed gratification works for them does this 'seemingly' work! Delayed gratification does not work on a physical level (in the body) though. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:15 PM
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Re: "if they can find a woman similar to them as well" from your comment above. -> Does that mean that you only consider a woman "ltr/marriage" material if she has "never done casual" and was "never promiscuous"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:58 PM
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Re: "The idea that waiting always kills desire is false. It often builds it up. The more you are denied something (or deny yourself) the more you want it." -> It works like that for men. Women are aware of that. -> It does NOT work like that for women at all! It's diametrically opposite to how men work! Re: "They make it very early." -> What would you say? After how many dates/weeks? What are the parameters by which he makes his choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:45 PM
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It is totally possible for a woman to want to settle down but being unable to find the right guy (e. g. sexual connection and emotional connection). She has to have sex with him to know whether they actually are a good fit sexually. A "hoe" is a whore. A whore is a businesswoman who performs a service in exchange for money. A "slut" is a woman who has had "lots" (number varies) of sexual partners. I would therefore argue that there is no reason to call a woman a hoe in the context you are talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:40 PM
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Within the first weeks is not straight away... First or second date is straight away...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:01 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:31 PM
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So you always find women who want to sleep with you straight away?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:30 PM
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Re: "men are particularly vulnerable to reverse psychology" -> Yes. What they say is usually totally different to what they do. Men can have a very analytical mind but still fail to live by what they preach. I believe that a woman can only use reverse psychology on a man if she is not actually into him. If a woman is into a man she gets nervous around him and fails to be able to "control" her behaviour. It has nothing to do with thirsty either imo. These "programs" can run "covertly" in the unco…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:29 PM
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Women can tell where they are looksmatch wise. Each woman wants to perceived as unique and invaluable, because it is true, no woman is the same as another woman. Men in her own league might be totally unwilling to "give her that feeling" so she seeks men above her league to "get that feeling from them" in another way. I think men really should start to understand this dynamic because they can use it to get the woman they want (as long as she is his looksmatch) by making her feel like she is uniq…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:21 PM
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Men do not have to marry the first one he might feel like wanting to marry. So throughout his life the list would very likely not have just one name on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:14 PM
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Men choose wrong for ltr/marriage. Can we agree that in this scenario the man holds the cards? As a result women can only choose among a few Mr. Wrongs (not potential Mr. Rights). So, a woman will end up with the wrong guy because the way men pre-select. Women can only make a guy wait if they are not into him. Several reasons. Women get insecure when they are around someone the are genuinely into (just like everyone else). She wants to keep him around, as a result she is afraid of making the wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:03 PM
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What does shared values and consistency have to do with good sex? How can you tell whether you are sexually attracted to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:34 AM
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Okay, I cannot imagine wanting to be with someone who I am not "into" about once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:51 PM
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Dude! We have been over this twice now! How much first experience do you have in this area? My point is that men have a weird system in their head by which they "value" women and by which they preselect women into categories. This is market economics. This has nothing to do with looking for connection to another human being! Men need to seriously look into this! Wtf does "mate value" mean in your opinion? Re: "its not sex determining the classification of “want to fuck” or “gf/marriage” but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:43 PM
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Great question. And a very complex question in a certain way. I suppose it's been two guys who were also my looksmatch. I only discovered that I could not be sexually physically attracted to men below my "looksmatch" a few years ago. I usually "made men wait" for sex because I knew that it would "attach them to me". As a result I never actually properly liked/loved anybody I was with because they were only with me because I was in control of the relationship dynamic. I was able to identify the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:34 PM
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So, is it possible that they became more attractive to you simply by "making you wait" for a few dates for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:19 PM
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Re: "There are definitely women out there who instead partner with men who are in other ways exceptional" -> No doubt that this is happening, I did this myself, got married to a guy below my physical attraction "level" and it ended in a dead bedroom (my fault, never should have married him) -> I might be an odd case because I'm a 10/10, so I CANNOT date up in looks, it's a weird place to be to be honest. Female sexual attraction is not the same as male sexual attraction. We (women) do not want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:17 PM
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So what set them apart from the women you went on to be in ltr/marriage with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 11:11 PM
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A woman cannot be physically sexually attracted to a man who is below her looksmatch! A man cannot become sexually more desirable to her in any other way! Re: "a man can still be more desirable while being less attractive physically" -> Anything below her physical looksmatch will end in a dead bedroom!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:58 PM
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So what are the parameters that men categorise women by in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:55 PM
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No, I am saying that men choose the wrong women because according to how quickly she sleeps with him she gets categorised into either "want to fuck" OR "gf/marriage material". I am saying that as a result women can only be in ltr/marriage with men they are "not into".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:55 PM
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So, have you ALWAYS gone on to be in a ltr/marriage with the woman you slept with? I am just asking because that would put you in a place where you would have never categorised women as either/or.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:52 PM
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Yes, women are collectively that way. I am capable of perceiving reality. Not being able to perceive physical reality when it comes to sexual attraction is a male problem, NOT a female problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:49 PM
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Please define "quickly". And how many?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:36 PM
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I found out through first hand experience that I simply cannot be sexually attracted to someone who is NOT my looksmatch (trust me, I tried). That, to me, means that women can only be sexually attracted to their looksmatch or above. That's the portion! How on earth is that small? It's equal to the men there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:36 PM
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Re: "have to wait" Have you always been the one who has been "made to wait"? How many ltr have you had? Have you been married? Have you had casual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:30 PM
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How much sex (frequency) do you aspire to in a ltr/marriage? Talking is sooooooo different from doing in my experience. It can be the diametric opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:27 PM
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I was actually talking about how MEN categorise women. I have only ever been with men who were my looksmatch or below. I found out for myself that sexual compatibility is impossible if you "downgrade" (sorry about the wording). As a 10/10 there is no "further up" the ladder, which is a difficulty all and in itself... Re: "such a small portion" -> Women are not men. We have different bodies, and as a result our physical sexual attraction is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:07 PM
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Since you seem so "eager" to contribute and share your own experience I suggest you go through my posts on other posts....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:01 PM
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Cool. You are aware though that people lie about this stuff to friends all the time, so first hand experience is key! I write about stuff I have first hand experience in/on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:00 PM
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Yes, darling, first hand experience. There is a lot... I understand that this (my post) might rub you the wrong way (as a married woman). If that is the case I apologise, it's 100% NOT meant as a affront. I would love to hear about your opinion on the matter...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:57 PM
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In my opinion, women do not actually have a "dualistic mating strategy". Imho, the way that men currently choose partners makes it impossible for the women to choose the right guy for her. So women HAVE to choose a guy they are not into. As a result, they try to pick the most "suitable" man they can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:49 PM
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I am saying that women do not get the chance to choose the right man because he pre-selects among the lines of "want to fuck" and "marriage / girlfriend material" My experience is that when a woman "makes a man wait" (even if she likes him in the beginning) for sex she is turning off her sexual desire towards him and as a result is unable to tell whether they are compatible (she is "faking it"). I believe that a woman can never respect nor love nor like a man who only chooses her due to her "fak…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:45 PM
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For me, sexual compatibility is EXTREMELY RARE. That's why I want to know whether the sex is good to be able to tell whether I actually want to have a relationship with the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:40 PM
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Re: "Having to explain to grown ass men, older than me, why on earth a man would like to have anal sex with a woman." -> Yes, it's very strange. I was assuming that all men would have watched that kind of porn at least once in their life. Btw, I believe you have MUUUUCH more knowledge about the human condition than e. g. a therapist!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:21 PM
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Re: someone who makes you feel special -> I believe the great difficulty is in finding someone who feels the same way about you as you do about them (special, "the one"). -> Do you assign "value" to women you are dating by any other means/categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:17 PM
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Agreed 100% May I ask a professional question? Have you met a man who was not into butt stuff (deep down)?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:06 PM
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Who asks a woman for her hand in marriage? Is it the man? If yes, then he picks, which means he has a roster.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:04 PM
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So, I am assuming that you are in a ltr at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:03 PM
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Does that mean that you prefer hoes to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:02 PM
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I would totally disagree. In my opinion she is setting herself up for failure (bad sex) by not test-driving the car early on. How highly do you value sexual compatibility in a relationship/marriage? For me it's a top priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:01 PM
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Are you more a ltr/marriage guy or a casual guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:58 PM
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Bingo! Now, guess how many women actually end up in a ltr/marriage with a guy they are "sexually attracted" to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:56 PM
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I do not really understand what you are saying. I believe that the categories he "puts her in" are fluid, so he could potentially put her in the "marriage material" category one day and in the "want to fuck" category another day. There are mayor game changers, e. g. once she starts liking/loving him (some never do), once she has sex with him, once he marries her...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:48 PM
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Well, no surprise there. Pretty clear that wives would not want to tell their husbands about this...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:42 PM
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If a woman is not interested in a ltr/marriage with a man she sleeps with, then it totally changes his mindset. The woman who does not want a ltr/marriage with him is deemed "unattainable", hence "very high value".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:41 PM
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Re: "the right person..."paradoxically...who's really attracted to you and wants to have sex with you early on" -> I totally agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:36 PM
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How can she do both at the same time? How can she "make him wait" and have sex with him "quickly", both at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:33 PM
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The Madonna-Whore complex is not just one thing. It mostly describes how men categorise women into EITHER "whores" OR "madonnas" (no woman can be a whore and a madonna to him at the same time). They want to marry the "madonna" (sexually frugal, like their mother to them) and they want to have sex with "whores" (women who are willing to have sex with them "easily").
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:32 PM
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Think of this mathematically. Male/female population on earth is 50/50. If every man wants many hoes and one virgin...it's mathematically impossible...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:26 PM
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I think you are avoiding my questions. So what if a guy cannot "feel special" with a woman? Does she then automatically get categorised as "low value"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:19 PM
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Re: "A lot of "value" ideas stems from chasing behavior" -> Which is why men usually only run into this problem once the chase is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:15 PM
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Why? Are you a fan of dead bedrooms? Because that is the inevitable consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:13 PM
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Men have a roster (fuckable/marriageable). A woman is either or. Which category she gets "put into" by him depends on her behaviour. Make him wait (marriageable). Fuck him straight away (low value). As a result of this roster, women have to pick a man they are not actually into, because the goal is to be perceived as "high value". Women can only do this (make him wait) if they are not actually into the guy. So their (women's) only option for ltr/marriage is a guy who they are not actually into..…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:11 PM
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Re: "the best way to get a man you want for a long term relationship wanting to keep going on dates. " -> If a man perceives a woman to be out of his league he will always keep pursuing her, no matter when she sleeps with him, it's a totally different "game" then because her "perceived value" is above his "worth" already. -> It looks to me, as you are still using language in a certain way (e. g. "get a man") makes me believe that the system I talked about is well and operational
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:05 PM
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Agreed. I believe the problem is that men choose the wrong women for ltr/marriage. As a result, a woman always ends up with the wrong man in a ltr/marriage, which to me would explain why sexual compatability in a ltr/marriage is such a hot/difficult topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 08:00 PM
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Re: "someone who has sex early on in a relationship that they fully intend on being serious in" -> Did you ever run into a woman who you were sexually incompatible with yet wanted to stay together with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:57 PM
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Re: "Casual sex is pretty gross to me personally" -> What is your view of women who do/did have casual sex? Did you possibly always pursue women who had never been into casual sex just like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:55 PM
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Have you ever NOT had a rule that men have to "wait" for sex? (Sorry about the wording, I am trying to make this easy to write and understand.) Because if you have always had a rule for how long men have to "wait" then you would have never come across the behaviour that I mentioned. Edit: Sorry, I thought you were a woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:53 PM
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Sorry, your wording is so complex to understand. Do you mean to say that you had to wrap your head around the possibility that being in a ltr AND being sexually compatible at the same time can happen with one person?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:50 PM
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What if a man does not know about her relationship history? So, you are saying that, if she made all the other men wait, but has sex with him quickly, that is going to make him feel special, right? You are talking about the rare case where she made all the other men wait, now found him who she all of a sudden cannot keep her hands off. -> Have you heard of this specific case happening irl? -> Why is he going to choose to stay with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:40 PM
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I believe it's mostly about ancestral trauma that gets passed down from generation to generation because it was never healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:34 PM
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Just trying to get a better idea of who you are. Do you generally seek out women for ltr/marriage or do you seek out women for casual?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:32 PM
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Did you ever consider the possibility that the problem can be found in how men perceive women? I believe that men do not actually look at the woman (individual), but instead operated based on an image they create of her in their head. It's pretty well known that men do not (like to) listen to women. Also, a bit like an semi-expensive watch compared to a cheap watch. They are both "made in china" but are marketed differently. What is your point of view on the topic of "one man's trash is another …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:28 PM
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Do you have first hand experience in this matter? What men say they want in a woman and which women they end up picking can be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:21 PM
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Re: "taught about it from childhood" -> You cannot teach a child anything. It will imitate your behaviour and your feelings. So being around parents who behave that way and feel that way will still result in the child imitating the same behaviours (or sometimes the diametric opposite behaviour as a rebellion) as the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:19 PM
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I believe that "a woman in his own league" can be perceived as either "want to fuck" or perceived as "gf/marriage material. Which category he "puts her in" depends entirely on whether and how long she makes him wait for sex. Unwilling to have sex = high value Willing to have sex = low value
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:15 PM
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That's why the saying goes "one man's trash is another man's treasure." That's why I am looking at it from the POV of men only. The important difference is the way a woman behaves with each man...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:10 PM
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YEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:09 PM
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If a woman is "out of his league" it's always a different story. Then she can sleep with him straight away and he will still want her for ltr/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 07:08 PM
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Re: "aiming for a woman that is worth it" -> Why on earth can't men get over their objectification mindset when it comes to women? Each human is invaluable (beyond calculable or appraisable value; of inestimable worth), which means they cannot be measured by "worth/value". Only objects can be valued in a worth system! -> When will men understand that it's about connection and not about 'getting someTHING that is worth x amount'?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:11 PM
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Trump is not confident. He acts in a confident manner (he is pretending). That means that he is NOT actually confident. Insecure people are not confident, they can only fake confidence. I know that this is something that men find difficult to understand in practice because they almost exclusively believe that nobody can look behind the mask of pretend (fakery). The only reason Trump has some kind of natural authority over others is because he is an Alpha. Just like in nature, people are born an …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:27 PM
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Re:"is not a good way to ensure future male friends" There is this old saying that goes something along the lines of: "Tell me what Company you keep and I will tell you what you are"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:34 AM
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When someone shares "informal code" with a man they find disgusting, but refuses to share "informal code" with a woman who is being taken advantage of (by said "disgusting" man) then that someone is pretty frankly untrustworthy in my book...but suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:12 PM
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Then don't complain about the behaviour (anywhere), don't pretend you are against it and suck it up when women complain about said behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 10:02 PM
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You share "informal code" with a man you find disgusting?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 09:18 PM
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Re: "usually subtly told these guys so" -> You should have told their girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 08:07 PM
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Re: "Single motherhood results in negative life outcomes for children" -> Do you have any kind of clue what negative life outcomes children from dead bedroom marriages have to face and live with???? Ask the children, they are scarred for life, still hoping that their parents had gotten a divorce!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 09:43 PM
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Re: "These men also want babies. This is where men are delulu. They never actually think of logistics. Men treat having babies like getting dog as a kid. Zero forethought which leads to abandonment just like how modern men create single mothers." -> Sooooo true. Time to NOT have babies with those men!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 08:43 PM
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Two options for people currently: -> Look for "the one"; labels (ltr, marriage) are secondary -> Look for people who want to have a label with you (ltr, marriage) -> You are either looking for genuine connection OR looking for someone to "award you with a label"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 05:20 PM
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Re: "faulty partner filtering system" -> All these women were saying was that they routinely fell in love with men who were "unwilling to commit to them"... -> This is not women's fault though...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:51 PM
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Well, all it takes is for men to notice that they have to appeal to actual real life women and not some concept of a woman that has been fed to them by a business.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:47 PM
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Re: "health care studies should involve proper gender representation" -> Healthcare studies these days revolve SOLELY around making healthcare businesses money, please stop pretending otherwise, they do no want "the best for women" and they do not want "the best for men". Re: "investment should be given to those with merit" -> Please read up on how money is ACTUALLY created, it's created from nothing by typing in numbers into a bank account... Any agency we all have as humans and individuals is …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:44 PM
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Eeeeeeh, women are human, we are NOT robots...and, yes, despite all effort, we are all still searching for "the one" aka "Mr. Right".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:40 PM
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Re: "women are attracted to most men" -> What???? No way woman!!!! -> Please speak for yourself only!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 08:02 PM
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Re: "Then you realize you got fed a lie that twisted your standards for all of your youthful life." -> Nope, she actually pointed out the opposite. She said that she went for the "good guys" all her life and then at some point experienced actual sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:48 PM
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Re: "it very obvious where men have gone wrong in our understanding of this issue" -> Yes. Women look for "the one", women look for "mr. right". We simply do not scout the room for sexual potential...it's not part of "female sexuality"...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:33 PM
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That's why I asked...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:28 PM
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Re: "She ended up falling in love with him and having sex with him" How does he know that 'her having sex with him' equals 'her falling in love with him'...?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:09 PM
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Re: "mention that men are the majority of victims" -> If you meant to say 'male children', then, yes, I agree, this topic needs to be talked about A LOT MORE!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:08 PM
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If he cares about her body count then he was never into her to begin with... In a world where women are being made to feel bad about having sex, anything above body count 0 will be viewed as too much. As a result I would get offended if a date asked me this (what is your body count) question just purely out of principle. That's just me: - Men should never ask a woman about her body count - Women should never ask a man about his body count Is abortions even an actual topic? I do not know anybody …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:29 PM
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Does that include the following? - Man lies about her cooking (some food is bad in his opinion but he pretends to not hate it) - Man lies about her choice of clothing (he dislikes it but pretends to like it)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:21 PM
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Yes, I would rather go with "equally valued" though. I don't think that my take is unusual among women tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:39 PM
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Re: "plenty of women will roll over and give it to them" -> Even with this dynamic, it will kill his sex drive in the long term...dead bedroom...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:48 PM
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Re: "But women will still settle in the end, because sexuality is a thing" -> Then I hope you enjoy your future dead bedroom sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 10:10 PM
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Wow, you really do not want to engage with my comment it seems...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:17 PM
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Am I a bot? Really? It might be because your arguments/post are similar. As a result my replies/arguments are similar. Nevertheless, my point is still "that means that the guy you are currently with is not the one..."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:56 PM
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I think you really ought to distance yourself from your parents because it looks like you are projecting...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:42 PM
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Re: "I might also have been as happy with some other guy" -> That means that the guy you are currently with is not the one...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:33 PM
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Re: "it just kills any and all attraction if I think he is incompetent and incapable." -> Correct! -> Reality is the main factor in determining this....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:31 PM
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I am not trying to miss the point. What's the point I am trying to miss in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:28 PM
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If u r with a dude who is incapable/unwilling to acknowledge that trash gets collected REGULARLY then he simply refused to pass the first test of "REALITY"...just imho...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:06 PM
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I have zero clue about what is happening in the influencer sphere. I simply do not care. I do not follow that "shit". That's just me. I always go back to yin/yang principles because I learnt for myself that it works EVERY SINGLE TIME (zero exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:49 PM
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Re: "even if I know I might also have been as happy with some other guy with the right qualities" -> If that's the only way to make yourself feel that way about your husband, then you are definitely with the wrong guy...just my honest opinion...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:19 PM
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There are natural desires men have and there are natural desires women have. Women want to be free to choose what they want to do, that is what feminism is all about!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:20 PM
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Yes, maybe it's men who are the ones who need to learn to choose "the one"...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:07 PM
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Re: "Women naturally want men to lead. Men naturally protect. Women naturally stay home." -> Let me fix this for you: Women naturally prefer men who can lead. Men naturally want to protect. Women naturally would prefer circumstances in which they can choose to stay home.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:50 PM
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100% sooooo true!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:33 PM
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Re: "I know women will say how he should "communicate" but this is terrible advice. No amount of communication will make a woman who has lost interest in you regain it." -> This advice is only given because it helps you with your own awareness and closure. It's a technique that is healthy and works very well. It's not meant to keep the other party/side interested or meant to get them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:20 PM
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Men pick the wrong women. If you pick the wrong woman for a ltr or marriage (where you are more into her than she is into you) then of course she is not going to treat you lovingly because she's "just not that into you". Does not mean that women do not want to give "the one" all that...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:08 PM
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Ah, okay, cool, now I can see what you mean. I'm an artist too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:36 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:31 PM
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Trash gets collected regularly...every week...in some countries multiple times a week...why would I constantly remind someone else to do something that occurs REGULARLY...?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:28 PM
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Re: "that would make ​our entire system - the very concept of money - ​very creepy" -> It seems like you have not actually heard the truth about money creation - money is created "from nothing" for certain people who are deemed "credit worthy" (aka the bank types numbers into your bank account on a computer).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:09 PM
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That one dude they vibe with...duh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:53 PM
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Women want "the one"! And, yes, if we cannot find "him" then we get married to someone and have a kid along the way. We still know what we actually want though...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:16 PM
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Re: "Women don't really give their best in sex when it comes down to their husbands." -> That's because men choose to marry the wrong women!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 09:11 PM
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Re: "if height in men matters" -> Now please further define "matters"... -> Hoping you are starting to understand wording in surveys MATTERS and as a result most surveys are totally biased...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:33 PM
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Women are not men and never will be. Men are not women and never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:22 PM
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So, you think that the government has legitimacy even if it's 100% corrupt???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:11 PM
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Were you alive while Joe was in office? Yes you were... and it seems like you still feel it's adequate to make these statements....???
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:05 PM
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Re: "still discover that your values don't align in ways that matter for building a life together" -> For as long as people believe that their political association is more important than finding "the one", they will only meet idiots along the way...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:53 PM
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Anyone who still believes in a political right or left is lying to themselves. They are all just bought and paid for by certain interested parties: Trump = (bought by Israel) left = (bought by military complex and healthcare complex). Europeans would, btw, not discuss abortion rights in general, they would discuss abortion until end of 1st trimester ok or not ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 06:41 PM
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I'm gonna need to know which part of your post was sarcastic to know whether/how to reply...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:40 PM
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If I were you I'd ask myself 'why did I break my jaw to begin with', 'what was life trying to tell me?'... There is a very good way to avoid serious injury...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:53 PM
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Re: "negative thoughts cause negative realities, right? -> Correct. So just train yourself to ignore negative thoughts and focus on positive goals...it's just training really...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:47 PM
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To me, pain is NOT neutral. I avoid pain! I choose happiness 24/7. I should have probably specified "mind over matter ONLY works WELL if you take it to a positive place."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:45 PM
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Re: "Overall it just feels off to me. If you won’t give one sexual favor to one partner but will to any other doesn’t that mean you just care for them less?" -> YES
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:28 PM
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Re: "And for some people it is nothing but a burden." -> Totally irrelevant. If you try to change your body (body=truth) via your mind (to a negative place) it will only end in misery... -> If I were you I would really just start to accept what is (because it might actually take you to a good place)... -> The only time that mind over matter works is if you take it to a positive place...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:24 PM
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Oooookay, then were you posting about some random topic that has nothing to do with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:20 PM
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Soooo...what kind of women who are you looking for then? Women who are exactly like you (aroace)? -> I believe that currently most marriages (with children) are platonic partnerships (80-90%) anyway already...so I believe that there is a HUGE market for men who want women just to have a family (excluding sex)...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:15 PM
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Re: "they know how unappealing that is to women" -> They have to acknowledge that they have to pick one woman for this (and just pick the one that picked you, like I said)...and then it won't be unappealing anymore. Re: "they think sex = love" -> They do not THINK THIS, this is part of male sexuality! Women need to understand this! And men need to accept this! --> They receive love via receiving sex. I have not discussed how they can give/show love to her...separate topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:09 PM
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Re: "I would compare the way my body desires sex and relationships to an addiction to nicotine." -> That's because it's literally a built in male urge... -> Some men are willing/able to will their body into not having these urges, but most men (99.x%) cannot do this...and they should not try to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:05 PM
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Wouldn't you (personally as a aroace) try to find asexual women to be in a relationship with? I feel (just numbers wise) like there would be a lot of women (asexual) out there who want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:01 PM
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Re: "The problem is they want women to worship their presence." -> Yes, they got to get over that, because it's just not in our (female) nature to worship men... Re: "They call it love, but they actually want validation and worship." -> Currently men are totally unable to evaluate what is going on (with themselves and anyone esel) because they are constantly lying to themselves...they also have to learn to acknowledge that to them 'having sex = receiving love'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:38 PM
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I am going to say this again. I think men should pick (date, ltr, marriage) women who are sexually into them. That should be their only metric (in the current dating market that is). I say this because I know that men value sex more than anything else....having sex to them equals receiving love... My reason for this: Men constantly pretend that 'I want to f**k a woman' DOES NOT EQUAL 'I am attracted to a woman'. They literally have to acknowledge what's actually true though...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:27 PM
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They lie to themselves and they lie to women. They are, as a result unable to perceive reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:25 PM
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We do not hate men. We're just sick and tired of liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:24 PM
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If you are pretending that that's your pool then you are sadly mistaken sir 🤠
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:41 PM
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Omg, no wonder you're such a "ladies' man"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:33 PM
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So in what way (category) exactly was your husband better in than the other men you were with before? Does not sound like he was taller or better looking...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:08 PM
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Re: "who are good relationship prospects" -> What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:25 PM
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Women no longer panic once they hit 30, the odd one does, but generally this has been pushed to 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:11 PM
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I am just expressing how I view your comment... Because what I am reading is: "an unfulfilling sex life...makes my life complete"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:35 PM
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Okay, thanks. Then my point to OP would be that there are currently no drugs marketed for "getting rid of your libido". Re: "it's pretty much set in stone that I'm undesirable" -> My advice, should you want it, would be to hit the gym and to not turn yourself against your body by taking SSRIs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:03 PM
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I used to believe what you believe (there is no free will). Then I stumbled across near death experiences (besides reports from people there is actually scientific research about it). Then I read up on the double slit experiment (the act of observation or measurement fundamentally alters the outcome).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:51 AM
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Re: "Many SSRIs will do that for you." -> Are they actually marketed for that purpose though?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:29 AM
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My question is, would men be able to tell if it were happening to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:56 PM
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I don't argue against anyone, I argue with people...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:48 PM
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I suggest you look up the broad definition of bodily autonomy: "Bodily autonomy refers to the right of individuals to make decisions about their own bodies without coercion or interference from others. It is considered a fundamental human right, essential for personal freedom and reproductive justice." Nowhere did I find the word ""woman", "unwanted sexual advances" or "strangers". It's not specific to the case you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 08:26 PM
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Are there legal drugs on the market that are marketed as "will get rid of your libido"? Just a btw, drugs for depression do not work for most people either as they are still depressed, even with drugs...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:47 PM
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Does not really matter, as you seek certain states of consciousness...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:45 PM
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Psychopaths are good at finding people who want what they are willing to give in return for what they want, yes. Re: "to by pass" -> To bypass what? A natural instinct? Think again. People will be willing to ignore their own instinct if by doing so they will get what they want... Re: "Easy prey" -> In what respect? You are expecting me to read your mind while only writing a few words...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:42 PM
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Yes, necessarily. Kids pay attention to how parents live their own life, NOT how parents behave towards their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:28 PM
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Re: "sometimes kids are fuck ups of their own design" -> I am not making excuses for adults who are "fuck ups", I am simply pointing out the reasons and what that means re parents. Parents who shit on their kids are literally unwilling to analyse their own life choices and unwilling to look at how it programmed their kids at a core level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:53 PM
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Why do men do this once they are married? Why do they pretend that living an unfulfilled sex life with a woman equals love?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:40 PM
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Seeking sex is literally the same as seeking companionship...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:37 PM
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Anyone who "(ab)uses" drugs is actually a spiritual seeker...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:35 PM
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Re: "Cheating on your partner is more "toxic" than posting uncouth things online" -> Totally disagree. Depends on your partner and what they want. Maybe they are just waiting for you to cheat so they have an excuse to leave you? Maybe they prefer you stay and therefore are "happy" that you rather hate on them online instead of cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:31 PM
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Re: "even though they clearly cannot." All humans can sense people who do not like them (happens unconsciously). These are the actual issues imho: Men tend to suck up to women who do not like them (mother wound). Women tend to forget that men value sex (I like her right now because she has sex with me right now) over commitment any day of the week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:27 PM
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Re: "Perhaps it's not just because of my sexuality" -> I would say that the only reason you hold this pov is solely because of your sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:09 PM
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Re: "I was told that when I hit my 30s I’d want to have a baby no matter what" -> I think this has now been pushed to 40s...? Use of hormonal birth control also has a HUGE effect, as the female body is then already flooded with pregnancy hormones 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:37 PM
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Re: "There is no free will" -> Free will is the only thing holding this place together man. People who decline to exercise their free will are still exercising their free will. Re: "the people in power" -> The people in power are the most scared people on the planet, specifically because they are aware that they are actually not in control of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 03:36 PM
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Re: "I am highly confused how you think that my saying my husband started out as a fuck buddy, a man I have and have always had intense carnal desire for, equates to just marrying him for a stable marriage." -> I was referring to something else. I think I remember reading that you said something like 'he pursued me', that you were not actually into him that much that you had the desire to marry him. Re: "You give them grace there. But women don't get the same grace?" -> I analyse behaviour, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:25 PM
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Darling, I have accumulated a lot of first hand experience in my short lifetime. So I speak from experience. If they sound like red pill it's because red pill is based upon some reality (extremely tiny pieces) and then totally turned around on its head into something that has nothing to do with reality anymore. Re: "stop blaming dead bedrooms on women." -> Do you have first hand experience with/in a dead bedroom? I do (both sides). I know why guys do not have sex with the women they are with (th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:55 PM
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Well, what makes you think you know anything about what women do and do not care enough about? I have dated hot men and I would consider (pretty) model men to be NOT hot as they are generally more female in nature (plus they obsess a lot over how they look, what they wear, what they eat, etc.), which is not attractive for women generally... Requirements in visual aesthetics for men is different than for women. So, if you say that you married the hottest man you could find and you still have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:13 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:37 AM
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Well, who raised the kid? If the kid is fu***ed up it's always safe to assume the parents are even more fu***ed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:08 AM
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Re: "There's also a bit of an opposite correlation between how attractive a guy is and how good he is in bed." -> This rather sounds like you are trying to make husbands feel like they are not getting screwed over. Women are very aware of and into visual aesthetics. Even if the sex were good (or better) they would not care too much because they would not feel the desire to have sex with a visually unpleasing partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 10:59 AM
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Losing your sex drive is different to losing sexual attraction. Women who are attracted to their partners would still want to have sex if he initiates and does not expect her to perform. Men and sex drive is a little trickier because they have to perform (erection), so they cannot just be passive. Stress is a factor for men (mostly work). Wives who complain about the quality of the sex ia a huge factor for men. I would always advise everyone to never take medications of any kind that are known t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 12:05 AM
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Sure, if you want to spend the rest of your life telling men what to do in the bedroom while "pretending" to be turned on by it then knock yourself out. Nobody minds. Just do us a favour and do not pretend like that is something most women are interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:56 PM
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After so many times, yes, I do occasionally feel something like Dr. Phil...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:13 PM
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Eeeeeeh, as I just said, I'm not in a dead bedroom. So your haha seems kinda ridiculous... And yes, if you are with the right guy - he will be able to read your body language...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:11 PM
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What exactly you are lying to yourself about you mean? Excellent question, I'd need to dig deeper. Usually, with men, it's about their hate, their fears, their feelings in general, their connection to their mother, their willingness to be with a woman they love (that loves them back), children (yes or no), marriage (yes or no)...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:09 PM
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Bdsm is "pretend", it's why it does not work for women sexually (pretend only works for men). And in the reverse, there is a reason a dominatrix gets paid (because she does not get off). Just because you do not know (or want to know) about female sexuality (the 99%) does not mean that it's not happening. Did you ever wonder whether you are part of that 1% I mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:48 PM
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I would not use the word "safe", but otherwise I agree, if they were smart they would build a world where where sexual compatibility between two partners is rewarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:42 PM
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Sexual attraction is pretty straightforward. If someone does not want to have sex with their partner (be it man or woman) then they are not sexually attracted to their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:39 PM
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Re: "Never again did I ever fully give my heart away after that." -> Congrats, you have therefore earned yourself as much respect from women as those two women who stringed you along. And as a result you allowed those two women who stringed you along to run your future life (does not sound like a man who is in charge of his own life).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:35 PM
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Re: "we are simply moving onto a different stage of life" -> I don't believe that you have an actual theory, I believe that you are pretending to be super fabulous. And I believe that you are not just lying to women (as you pointed out) but that you are also lying to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:29 PM
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Re: "nor should anyone try to negotiate genuine attraction." -> You say this and then you go on to say that men should just 'buy desire' abroad...????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:19 PM
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Men just need to stop sucking up to the wrong women...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:16 PM
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Excellent post, thank you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:14 PM
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Women (99%) get turned off by being in control (in any way shape or form) in the bedroom. If I tell someone what to do and they have to do it, am I in control or not? (Answer: yes, then I am in control). If a woman (has to) tell(s) a man what to do in the bedroom then she wants out... The reason for the orgasm gap is also wholly different. The female orgasm is so intense and so difficult to make happen, because it is supposed to be separate from intercourse (with penetrative sex). Note: My reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:07 PM
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Re: "women who are actually into...." -> ???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:51 PM
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I have, yes! And yes, women have to learn that it's morally better to be called the bad guy! They have agency, those excuses are no longer good enough in 2026, those excuses actually turn them into the "bad guy". And, of course, that is why in so many marriages the wife is only willing to file for divorce once the husband has cheated. But that actually MAKES HER THE BAD GUY, it makes her the COWARD!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:49 PM
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Re: "It's also legit for them to do it as a chore." -> I totally disagree! They should leave him! Otherwise those women have zero right to complain about men who cheat, men who lie, men who treat them badly, etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:43 PM
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Excellent choice, do not be with that man!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:41 PM
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Absolutely correct. I 100% agree with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:40 PM
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A woman who gets turned on by being in control in the bedroom is extremely rare (close to zero). Once a woman tells her partner what to do in the bedroom the sexual dynamic is dead (or always was dead). Mostly women do this (tell their partner what to do in the bedroom) with the agenda that he is going to not want to have sex with them anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:35 PM
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Women marry the wrong men and men marry the wrong women, it's that simple...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:33 PM
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If you adore something then you want it all the time...it's very simple. If you do not want it all the time then you do not adore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:31 PM
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Re: "No one does that if there’s not at least a little bit of attraction." -> You are very wrong here...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:30 PM
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You are correct, and unfortunately, this mindset is still everywhere!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:25 PM
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I do not do it! I suggest you also stop doing it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:23 PM
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It's totally legit for women to not like sex with someone! Women should therefore not be in a relationship with someone they do not desire sexually. They should leave! And they should tell him why they are leaving!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:22 PM
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If women were smart they would be honest about their sexual desire...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:21 PM
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Men who complain about it should separate or get a divorce. Women who are actually into their partners sexually will try anything and everything to get him to "be better at it".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:20 PM
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Women do not want to have sex with the guy they are with...it's that simple. Nothing to do with competence...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:19 PM
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Ask women who have done it - it mostly happens once they are married (achieved a goal) and/or once they are pregnant (achieved a goal).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:18 PM
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This is not natural changes over time. Yes, it's true that most women only understand themselves once they have walked through this. But, most women are not sexually attracted to their husbands, they have sex with him because he is willing to marry them and when/once they want to have a baby. That's it. Time that women who have walked through this to tell the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:15 PM
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Re: "Why the hell would anyone rationally fake an orgasm and continue having pleasure-less sex with a partner and feel the guilt of lying to them? When they can tell their partner how to pleasure them? Again this bizarre mindset makes no sense." -> It's because they do not want to have sex with the guy they are with...it's not about the quality of the sex. AND, most women get turned OFF once they tell the man what to do...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:11 PM
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Re: "Because they don't want to hurt their partner." -> WRONG, it's because they don't want the relationship to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:08 PM
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Re: " When they can tell their partner how to pleasure them?" -> When a woman does not want to have sex with a man then the problem is that she does not want to have sex with that specific man (ever)! He cannot change this by having her tell him what to do! She is not into that specific guy! That is exactly how female sexuality is different from male sexuality!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:55 PM
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Women marry men they are not sexually attracted to, aka men they can control. Women are at fault for not saying out loud that they do not want to have sex with their husband (ever). Men are at fault for not divorcing women who do not want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:52 PM
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Re: "There is a whole subreddit dedicated to them already." -> Please post the link, I'd like to have a look. Thx.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:42 PM
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Re: "This is why you see a lot of men complaining about Dead Bedrooms." -> Then stop being in them, aka stop rewarding women who are with you for reasons other than being sexually attracted to you...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 06:41 PM
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Furthermore, actually hot women are mostly done with being with "rich" guys in return for money, because they literally do not want to have sex with men who they find unattractive anymore...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:51 PM
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Soooooooo...if you know all this...why would you want to attract women of who you know that they do not like you for who you are? Why not just search for women who are actually into you? Unless you are only after having sex with as many women as possible...then all you have to do to be successful is to pretend is to be rich, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:48 PM
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It does not mean that all a man has to be is authentic. Most men, imo, currently also have no clue who they are, so they cannot really be authentic in the first place. In addition I would classify most women these days as control freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 11:36 AM
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I'm just giving you the female pov. I am not a man. But I have never met a man who was even remotely capable of looking after himself AND more than one other individual. Mostly they have to chose one individual OR themselves. So, this "Uses his time for others, does selfless things that go against the grain of what would benefit him personally, let's go of outcomes and does the right thing when it's not the thing with the biggest payoff, spends quality time with people he cares about, ponders hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:09 PM
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I am trying to explain to you that men who describe themselves as good men are not actually good men. That is the reason why they do not attract women or why they attract women who exploit them. Taking care of yourself is far more than showering. E. g. knowing and feeling your feelings, hopes, dreams, exploring things you love, feeling joy, being happy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:58 PM
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Re: "Uses his time for others, does selfless things that go against the grain of what would benefit him personally, let's go of outcomes and does the right thing when it's not the thing with the biggest payoff, spends quality time with people he cares about, ponders his mortality daily, helps people who can do nothing for him" -> You are describing a man who does not take care of himself. You cannot be a good man without taking care of yourself. Not taking care of yourself leads to hate and rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:38 PM
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Writing hate is not the same as writing "hate"...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:35 PM
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Re: " The biggest at-risk demographic for suicide is divorced men, especially if they lose custody." -> How does it sound like a good idea to give someone custody who is currently at risk of suicide? Please do not mix up cause and effect..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:26 PM
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Please define "good man".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:19 PM
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It's not possible to hate capitalism while loving the benefits of it. If someone loves the benefits of capitalism, they actually love capitalism...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:16 PM
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Techniques that work for women will not automatically work for men. The one technique that will always work for men is to IGNORE those women who shame you. Usually, by men complaining about the shaming, these women (who shame) are given a stage and an audience, which makes them feel important, which makes sure that they keep doing it because it gets them attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:28 AM
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Agreed. In my personal experience, the problem are hospitals and the problem is that women get "terrorized/controlled" by them during childbirth. They are furthermore totally incompetent when it comes to knowing how a natural birth happens and should happen. All they care about is how much money they can collect from the insurance afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:18 AM
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If you are a doula, then how come those women have tears at all? And a doula should not be terrified of birth, you are the one who is supposed to be calm. As a doula you should know that “textbook”, “normal”, or “uncomplicated” are terms used in hospitals. A birth in a hospital is always traumatising and never the natural way it could be, as the medical staff strongly interfere in the natural process of birth. Please connect here: https://whenpushcomestoshove.co.uk/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:14 AM
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The tear is not inside on the vagina, the tear is outside. It's really no big deal tbh. "A perineal tear is a tear in the tissue between the vulva and anus, the perineum."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:54 PM
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That's more about keeping one than attracting one...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:43 PM
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Yes, the internet can be extremely cold and totally void of compassion, it can really suck...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:58 PM
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Re: "The only time she's ever orgasmed was with a vibrator" -> Women can only come via clitoral stimulation, the so called "g-spot" is an urban myth...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:56 PM
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Oh. I'm sorry about that...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:51 PM
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I have to say here that the only one who knows whether the woman actually had an orgasm while with a man is the woman herself. I am assumimg that the practice of faking it is still happening with at least 90% of women. It is totally possible for men to tell for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:47 PM
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Feeling/emotion is always in the body. I feel horny, I feel happy, I feel ecstatic, I feel hurt, I feel angry, I feel sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:41 PM
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Okay, desire is 100% body, that is 100% feeling/emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:34 PM
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Be in your body while you are doing it. Turn "off" your mind and just feel/do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:33 PM
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Just here to give my five cents... Re: "I can attempt to mimic" -> How come only "attempt to mimic"? Are you sure? Being in your body and letting it guide you usually does the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:27 PM
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Get in touch with your feelings and emotions (specifically in regards to sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:23 PM
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Re: "being good at sex will not get you girls" -> That might be true, but being bad at sex will make the girls you get run away...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:22 PM
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Re: "I do not attach emotional meaning to sex" -> Sorry to say this, but this means that women are not going to enjoy having sex with you. Sex without emotions is cold, like an exercise. Only sex with emotions has the potential to be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:16 PM
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Outliers never have the approval/support of society. This is true for men and women. Try being a woman who lives by her own rules...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 09:00 PM
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If you think about all the women you had sex with in your life, which ones did you like/love? And which ones did you like/love more than the others? NOW, please only answer those two questions in regard to the factor of sex, what kind of label did your sexual relationship with them have, how much sex did you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 10:25 AM
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Just because they "think" that does not mean anything in regards to reality/action yet. Imho, it could just as well say "31 percent of men wish women would obey their husbands". Plus, the Guardian...really? ...that's been a propaganda newspaper since Assange...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:49 PM
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Nope, not fishing. Looking for an individual answer from each man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:45 PM
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Like I said, it's just not what I was asking about right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:08 PM
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Every man is going to want a woman just for himself with a healthy sex drive, so I could NOT put that down as an option... So, what makes you like/love a woman (or women) (more) solely in regards to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:07 PM
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That seems like a very cynical view...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:03 PM
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Soooo...but I was also referring to like/love and not just to what you want...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:28 PM
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Did not talk about respect or what makes a man stick around. Just the feeling you have for someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:27 PM
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In this regard, the world is your oyster (imagination) so to speak. I cannot come up with all the indefinite possibilities there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:23 PM
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So, would you rather go for a different arrangement? I never mentioned promiscuity. It's irrelevant to my question. Could be sex with a woman who has never had sex before. And it's about what makes you like/love the woman / the women (more/less/if any).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:21 PM
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I believe men generally like/love sex. So I was wondering whether they like/love a woman more or less depending on the circumstances during which the sex takes places and whether more sex overall always equals more like/love.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:18 PM
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Then, what does matter to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:16 PM
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My question was what made YOU like/love a woman more? Whether she loves/likes you is irrelevant (just to my question). But if you only do ltr, then your answer is already clear cut up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:15 PM
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You said "They both start out as just "women I like." So, you like both/all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:12 PM
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My question is not in regards to frequency either. One-night-stand could equal the same like/love as a xyz pick. Plus, I am specifically interested in what men think in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:10 PM
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The question is not necessarily about frequency. It's about like/love of a woman/women (frequency and label of relationship are irrelevant in this context). So, would your ideal be a FWB twice a week? You would love/like her more than a FWB once a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:06 PM
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Re: "you can assume any woman he doesn't pursue a committed relationship with is someone he doesn't like" -> That could be the general assumption. But I believe it to be untrue (generally). That's why I want to know what men personally think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 08:02 PM
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Yes, I'm just noticing that my text body does not specify that properly that I mean that even in the ltr/marriage I was referring to only the sex aspect...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:14 PM
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I cannot put down the option "ltr/marriage with all the sex you want", otherwise everyone is going to pick that...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:45 PM
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Ok. So you do not like or love women who give you "just" sex. Even in the ltr/marriage aspect I was asking about ONLY the sex aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:41 PM
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So, you like/love all women equally, especially if they have sex with you...?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:40 PM
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I was not referring to love/like that is reciprocated or lasting. So you like/love all women who sleep with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:38 PM
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I am asking you (and men) specifically though. Not asking you to give me an answer that goes for all men. How much (if at all) do you like/love a woman for having sex (once, twice, once a month regularly) with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:37 PM
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Okay. Any hypothetical you can think of that would make you like/love a woman (only re sex)?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:34 PM
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Yes, but my question was ONLY in regards to sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:32 PM
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So, you'd like and love a woman who gave you sex (maybe only once, one-night-stand) more than the woman you were in a ltr/marriage with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:31 PM
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I was asking about which woman/women you like/love more. And I did not add ltr/marriage with as much sex as you want because it would be the obvious choice...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:30 PM
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Correct!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
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Just a hypothetical
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
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So, can I put this as, like/love all women who give you sex when you want it equally? The options outside ltr/marriage are whatever you can think of...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:28 PM
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So...you like/love the woman you are in a ltr with more than a woman who you e. g. had an easy one-night-stand with?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:26 PM
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Ok, thx, I'll take "I find sex a fair bit overrated" as an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:25 PM
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"giving sex" is having sex with you. LTR is just a hypothetical, because it's obvious what the ideal is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:23 PM
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I meant any kind of label, e. g. one-night-stand, fwb, etc. I'll take this as an answer to my question though: "If a woman rejects you sexually that means she doesn’t love you" Thx
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:22 PM
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Could be anything. From e. g. one-night-stand to fwb...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 06:15 PM
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I am not an expert, but at least I have personal experience (not men I chose, not men I was with) in the matter, and I am a woman (and I know my own thoughts). So I would say that I had something to write about. You, on the other hand, imho, did not add anything substantial to the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:41 PM
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Yeah, sorry, have had so many b**ches after me that I did not notice that you replied to OP. But thanks for your second and third sentence I guess...seems like you are THE authority on critical thinking skills and intuition...and raising small kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:36 PM
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Yeah, bla bla bla, it's like you copied by comment...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:33 PM
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So, you know the man (low morals)? You know the details of why they separated? You know that he abandons his children? Please elaborate...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:15 PM
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I mentioned that this was a worry women have concerning this topic. Then I mentioned personal experience. And now you are telling me that I have no idea what I'm talking about? What exactly made you an expert on the matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:13 PM
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I hope you are not teaching your kids that it's legitimate to make someone else (your partner) miserable just because you and him have a different definition of the word freedom and are as a result unable to work out an amicable agreement. Separation, in this case, is mostly the better choice. If you potty "train" your kids, you are a cruel mother. Kids are unable to consciously open and close that specific muscle under 18 months (anything between 18 and 48 months is normal). I am pretty sure yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:10 PM
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Re: "A man that ... feels suffocated by emotional closeness is not going to be a good husband/father..." That is totally correct. That is why I think he did the right thing - by leaving! If, as a result, he learnt from this...he might be able to be a good co-parent and a good partner to a new woman...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:03 PM
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I write from personal experience. I have friends (men) who were with women solely for that reason (having a woman around to take care of their child(ren)).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:00 PM
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People who pretend to be in "control of" their "emotions" are always going to force other people into feeling the emotions they are unwilling to feel. This is always going to make everybody involved miserable. If I were you I would aspire to feel my own emotions and consciously take actions that align with my emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:57 PM
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Get over yourself! He's not talking about you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:52 PM
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Okay, you really should (100%) not have had unprotected sex with her if you already knew about the situation and that you did not want to have another child with her... Are you currently able to "control" your ex? If not, that might be the whole reason why women do not want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:51 PM
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That is very probably correct. Left/right/middle are all just part of the conquer and divide game. It's because I use my critical thinking skills AND my intuition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:47 PM
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I am assuming you are projecting here...or you are just aware that you have no actual arguments...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:45 PM
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And you are speaking from personal experience, or, are you just bla bla-ing around? Do you somehow know his baby momma? Because I do not not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:44 PM
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Freedom is a feeling. It is something to aspire to. If you put that at odds with the ability to be in a ltr, then, personally, for me, I would never want to be in a ltr with you, because it would mean to me that you have not understood the meaning of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:42 PM
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If that is how you live your life then you would, to me, 100% be somebody I was not interested in dating/ltr/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:40 PM
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It's always healthier to follow one's feelings. Suppressing your own feelings will only make your children miserable in the short run and in the long run (because you are teaching your kids the wrong thing by example). The important question would be whether and what he learnt from this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:25 PM
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So, how many kids do you have? And why did you never get married to baby momma?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:22 PM
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If I were you I'd take a look in the mirror! And stop making people miserable!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:21 PM
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Follow up question, were you married to baby momma?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:05 PM
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Well, if you are not looking for a woman to babysit your children, then stop being worried. You do not even have your kids during the week. How does this stop you from having a kinda "normal" single life. But if I were you I would also not lead with the "single dad" label. And make sure you do not give your kids (through baby momma) the permission to make you feel bad about having your own life. BUT, this only works, if you do not neglect your children (100% excluding baby momma) at the expense …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:02 PM
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Well, guys do not have to say things out loud, for women to know the truth. Guys either stop hiding from the truth, OR continue hiding from the truth while looking ridiculous to women (aka losing respect).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:49 PM
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If you have your kids only every other weekend, then you are NOT a single dad because you are not their primary caregiver. The reason why this is unattractive, is because usually, those men look for women TO specifically look after their child(ren) whenever they are with the dad (him). This is obviously a huge turn-off!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:41 PM
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Re: "they were lied to" -> It seems to me like you literally intentionally misunderstood what I wrote! Which (as you being a man and all) would not surprise me!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:22 PM
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Thank you for the summary. I see your point. Re: "which too many people conflate with social skill" -> Have to disagree here. Imho, reading female body language and being aware of female desire (and enjoying it) could also widely be categorised as a social skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:23 AM
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They can tell the difference. Women get bamboozled by men who are genuine in the beginning (because they are looking for sex, connection, meaning) and then change their mind (do I actually like her) or get scared of their own feelings (extremely common). Sometimes women also willingly blind themselves from the truth due to their need to feel loved and appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 09:56 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:45 PM
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Re: "If you can't have casual sex, you will never know what true desire is." -> Why do you believe there is a correlation between casual sex and desire? Whose desire? Hers or his?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:09 PM
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Sooooo, what were to happen if, you find your romantic interest tomorrow, get married the day after tomorrow, have (a) child(ren) nine months later and are nevertheless unhappy after a while???
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:41 PM
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Women are attracted to authenticity, NOT fake confidence! I'm excluding the following women: asexual and/or low sexual desire and/or control freaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:08 PM
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Persons of so called "authority" are always dumb idiots. Someone who blindly follows idiots (without questioning it and without making up their own damn mind) are dooming themselves to end up where idiots end up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:55 PM
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What happens after you are done feeling "unfulfilled, depressed, and angry" though? Are you sure that your fundamental disappointment results from women being free to live their lives as they see fit?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:19 PM
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What do you mean "what"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:08 PM
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I do not think the framework is ethical... I would say the framework is constructed as a result of the mother wound...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:57 PM
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Re: "Ultimately it is morally the right thing for women to be free to live their lives as they see fit, though." -> Cool, we agree, men and women both deserve/need that freedom. So, what do you think men should do next?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:55 PM
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Why would they want to pay that price?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:28 PM
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You are very wrong. Read up on it. It's common consensus in medicine. The unconscious rules and dictates our lives. The only thing we can/should do is to become aware of our own unconscious. As a result we can consciously change our subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:23 PM
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In some woo woo circles this is called ancestral trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:13 PM
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Mother and child (girls and boys) share the same feelings up until the age of four. Baby/toddler cannot distinguish between the mother's feelings and his/her (mother) feelings until then at all. From that age the child develops in stages away from that. BUT, we all know that what we learn from age 1-4 is the most memorable/definining to a human. We also know that the actions of humans are mostly guided by their subconscious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:13 PM
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I do not believe that you can tell/teach (consciously) someone to believe a certain thing. They pick it up from their parents (mostly mothers, but also fathers) what they subconsciously believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 02:08 PM
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Re: "paying the price for women’s freedom" -> What is the price they are paying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:51 PM
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What is your actual point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:49 PM
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Yes, true, but that does not mean that they are not themselves at fault for obeying society (and as a result doing the wrong thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:44 PM
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Porn is not the problem. Porn does not tell them xyz and then (as a result of watching porn) they end up believing it. It's the other way around. They are drawn to porn because it resonates with their belief system (which was already in place before they started watching it).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:42 PM
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Re: "Above all, modern men want a basic understanding of the generalities of female desire." -> Most women are totally incapable of being willing and full of desire. They are brought up to believe that men only value women who do not let them have sex with them (which is true re: marriage). So, as a result -> They (most women) have ZERO clue about their own desire!!!!!! So they cannot tell you!!!!! Why would a woman want to explore HER DESIRE with you if this is your attitude: "men don't want th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:36 PM
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Yes, most women are terrible mothers...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:29 PM
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"What porn do you watch that ends in marriage?" -> If a man watches porn regularly (e. g. once a day) it seems to me like a life long commitment... the other two points...correct...they have to actually change their belief system and make things work!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:28 PM
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Re: "Because Mommy was coddling them so much" The problem is actually exactly the opposite, mommy never took care of his needs (as a baby, toddler). No breast feeding until he decided he did not want any more. No constant body contact by being carried around 24/7. Just e. g. sleep "training" is torture. So he experienced women as "being in control" and someone who he needed to be "subservient" to "to deserve love". Which means that he is going to, as a result, "take it out" on all the other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:17 PM
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Men ALL have this problem (madonna/whore complex), they run around in the world with the deep down set belief system that they "have to make mommy happy".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:07 PM
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Re: "Porn made guys think that was realistic." -> I don't know about "realistic", but it's possible. You have to pick the right woman (who is already horny for you), value her big time for being super horny for you, and reward her by marring her... (Of course you cannot be picky in any other way, shape or form (her looks/behaviour). The problem men have is their own mind. They want a woman who is super horny for them (for sex only), yet they reward only those women (with marriage) who are NOT ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 01:05 PM
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Interpret what you want. I described: 1. a certain behaviour (in mothers) 2. what it actually means 3. what it does to a child (boy in this case) 4. and the effects it has on that boy in his adult life
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 12:04 PM
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Communicating your problem = emotional intelligence??? I strongly disagree!!! 1. Being aware of your own feelings and feeling your own feelings = emotional intelligence 2. Being aware of someone else's feelings = emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:48 AM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:39 PM
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What you are saying is, that, in a relationship (dating, ltr, marriage): -> Either you get treated like shit -> you get dumped -> you shape up -> Or you treat the other like shit ...So, where did your idea of "the one" go? You did not provide any further mention/explanation of that...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:35 PM
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When you use the word "attraction" you are not talking about sexual attraction. When "JackOfCrusades" used the word attraction he meant sexual attraction (unless he disagrees).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:15 PM
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I would still say that a couple a year is not bad...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:11 PM
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Okay, my mistake, so four matches a month... And no dates from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:58 PM
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What is your actual point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:20 PM
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100% percent!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:17 PM
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So you had a match a day (that is 30 matches in 1 month) and then what happened...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:07 PM
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They prefer to be the underdog. They want (choose) to hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:05 PM
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Re: "I got rejected for not having relationship experience" -> Screw her! Find someone who is actually into you! Re: "Men deserve to be loved unconditionally" -> Yes, they deserve to be loved unconditionally by their mothers! Unfortunately 99% of mothers do an EXTREMELY BAD JOB, so this never happens. You (or her) do not deserve unconditional love for behaving like an idiot in a relationship! Grow up!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 06:56 PM
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What you need to understand is that most people have two different "personas". One is the one they share with the world, the other is the one they actually are but would never dare to share with the world. What if you knew that most women are the person in "the previous paragraph" but are simply unable to say this out loud?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 04:36 PM
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What is the behaviour from her that you want (in return) that would make you feel like you are "getting back as much as you are investing"? What you are currently trying to do seems like forcing women to go back in time to live in a world where they cannot get love without having to fake it. It's just not going to happen, women will refuse 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:48 PM
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You are not her. So, your reasoning does not hold up re: "I would NEVER ask someone if an outfit made me look fat". If you do not understand what questions like these "Does this dress make me look fat?” are about then you really should learn. This is not a question about reality/facts (looking fat). A woman wants to feel that you love her even though she is NOT perfect and NOT ideal. You have to make her feel like in your mind and heart she holds intrinsic value. Once you give her that feeling s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:58 AM
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The woman you are describing is deeply insecure and is compensating (in her ego) by expecting her partner to be perfect. She can then (measured by her expectations) make the partner feel insecure (so she does not have to feel insecure) by pointing out all the ways in which he is not perfect. She expects herself to be perfect. She knows she cannot live up to it. So she instead pretends like she expects her partner to be perfect. This is about (her) not wanting to feel certain feelings (in this in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:34 AM
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Totally depends on his points of view. And it very strongly depends on the topic in each situation. If she lies to herself and/or him about something and he spots this, he should call her out (diplomatically). If he shuts up only (and always) only to appease his partner it's an extremely unhealthy relationship. There is a huge difference between legitimate criticism and constant nagging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:19 AM
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Re: "a portion of heterosexual men that consume pornography tend to assume that their female partners will enjoy it" -> Is porn the problem here, or is the problem here that those men cannot tell that there is a difference between their assumptions of women, and what every individual woman wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:15 AM
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Re: "She didn't want to be called out on her crap" -> Men need to do this though, call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:15 AM
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Re: "I genuinely think they just were offended I didn’t want them for more than sex." -> BINGO!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 03:08 PM
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There is no such thing as a "porn addiction". Stop making stuff up just because you want it to be the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:06 PM
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In other words, it sounds like you love women who are totally willing to lie to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 07:57 PM
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Wow, like zero engagement with the actual content of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:01 PM
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A few things I'd like to say about it. Have you ever heard of depiction? An image that is a representation of something. Porn is a bit like that. Men process feelings/emotions this way. I agree with you that men generally objectify women. This is a problem imo too. Men are naturally very sex-oriented, it's just the way they are, that's totally fine. Porn is not classified as an addiction, but as a compulsive disorder. "And compulsion has to do with emotions, you are feeling something you don’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:31 PM
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Here is your actual explanation for why women "prefer" to date up (money/status). It makes the man feel good to have more money and status than her! If on the other hand she earns more money or has a higher status than him he becomes more insecure and he has less sexual desire for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:17 PM
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RE: "Let's admit it's effect on how men are viewing women and expectations in reality." Please elaborate on this. How do you believe men view women and what are their expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:04 PM
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Re : "In fact my mother used to urge me to be more expressive to an extent that bordered on the patronizing. Every time there was a sappy movie on TV and there was an emotional scene she would tease me saying 'Is that a tear? Is that a tear?'." -> What you descibe as "teasing" in this context is the same as ridiculing. So your mother was making you feel ridiculous when you were expressing (or seemed like you were about to express) emotion (crying). Your mother taught you to find your own feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 12:58 PM
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Re: "Charlize Theron describes any man who says "making love" (no matter how attractive) makes her vagina shrivel up." Two aspects to this. Imo, this is a valid point. A man who only ever wants to make love is either not in touch with his own sexuality or lying about his sexuality. Charlize Theron is a basketcase. Her mother shot her father in front of her when she was young. The story is that it was in self-defence. She has deeply rooted issues with all men. Therefore she does not want to emoti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:15 AM
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I'm not telling you what's wrong, what's right, what's good and what's bad (those are really just labels most of the time). I am telling you what I am seeing. And that is that there is only one way to get this right. I understand that this feels for men as if they do not have any control over anything. Time for men to tell what is actual female intuition and choose to trust it. This is exactly the battle that is happening right now between men and women. I am telling you what I need (because I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:32 PM
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The wife is always the madonna. Until she cheats. Having a child can seem like cheating because she "falls in love" with her baby and is no longer interested in sex. In most cases it's the wives who do not want to have sex with their husbands (especially once children are in the picture). Husbands pretty often do not want to have sex with their wives anymore if they (the wife) complain about the "quality" of the sex (performance anxiety). In your situation, if you actively want to have sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:20 PM
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You are definitely on the right path! Re: "I don't believe in "the one". I believe love is something you build with someone, so "the one" is created through someone with shared values." -> Here is the reason why women are rejecting you, you are not looking for that one woman, you are looking for a woman that fits with your values. Makes us feel objectified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:58 PM
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Re: "No, the madonna doesn't become a Madonna until after she becomes a mother herself." -> Wrong, lots of ways to be the "madonna", no children required
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:49 PM
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So why are they with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:47 PM
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Re: "And instead keep attracting women who don't want sex at all thanks to social stigmas around sex and women's sexuality." -> They are attracting the madonnas for a reason, it's because they are unconsciously rejecting the "whores" Re: "And she has little to no interest in sex because she is catholic." He picked the wrong woman, he picked the madonna This is textbook madonna-whore-complex. They unconsciously choose to marry the madonna (their mother).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:44 PM
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Women are retreating into isolation because men are currently bailing when the one shows up. Women do not want to chit/chat with men on dating apps to make them feel good about doing this. This is the issue: Men reward the wrong women with marriage. Ask yourself this: Would you be willing to change your values/goals to be with the one? Re: "And if you don't have peak sexual attraction AND communication primarily about sexual attraction, you don't pass through the strait." What happens once you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:40 PM
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Just because they do not experience it currently does not mean that they do not have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:23 PM
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Thank you for your answers. Are you looking for the one or are you looking for someone with similar values/goals? The only reason I see is the reason that is everywhere. It's a system that has to go. The classic is that men seek out the madonnas (virtuous girls, sexless girls) or those women who are not sexually attracted to them (usually due to out of their league) for LTR or marriage. If a man wants to end up in a dead bedroom situation, this is the way to go, rewarding the sexless girls with …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:43 PM
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All men have the madonna-whore-complex. Please elaborate on your second sentence. Are you saying the reason a man does not want sex with his partner is because he is not sexually attracted to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:23 PM
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Wow, thank you, my first ever award.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:21 PM
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I always like to look at it this way, women are the desire, men are the sex. If a woman is with the wrong man she cannot be "desire". So as a result there is no sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:20 PM
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Every man on planet earth has "Madonna-Whore complex" issues. It's a result of their mother wound.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:11 PM
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Valid point. That's only one small part of it though. Men generally marry/pick the wrong women (those who are not interested in them sexually to begin with) from the getgo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:08 PM
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Great post btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:58 PM
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Or is it that you pursue women who are sexually and physically not attracted to you (unconsciously) for relationships? Or is it that you pursue asexual women for relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:58 PM
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Two questions: In what way are the women you pursue for relationships different to the ones you pursue solely for hookups?Does the former feel "out of your league" and the latter "within or below your league"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:57 PM
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Btw, those LTRs and marriages then end in dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:53 PM
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Re: "women who pursue safe/provider men" Two types of women, those who generally get the ick from sex (they only have sex to give it as a reward and when they cannot avoid it). And those who look for an awesome physical sexual connection (love). Those women who desire an awesome physical connection do not WANT to marry the safe/provider men, but they do it because those are currently the only ones who are willing to get married (and have kids). Re: "I immediately noticed the same pattern in wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:21 PM
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Where is your baseline of attraction (standards)? Plus, I'm seriously interested as to what kind of porn you two watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 09:13 AM
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And my point was that, once a woman can tell that that's the kind of guy she is dealing with, she is not going to stick around as an option. Rule no. 1 for women: A woman cannot make a man commit to her who is generally unwilling to commit. No simping (showing excessive devotion, attention, or submission to someone) in the world would ever be able to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:34 PM
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Re: "with the storyline focusing on the woman changing or redeeming them." -> You got this one wrong. In those stories, he changes himself for/because of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 04:54 PM
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Re what I wrote: "this is not really about being selective, it's about a man who does not want to select anyone." For women it's very important to understand the difference between a selective man (woman could feel like she is not good enough to be the one who is selected) and a man who does not want to select anyone (he's a player and is probably pretending to himself and others that he is waiting for the right one to be ready).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:04 AM
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Objectification IS the problem. Self-objectification and other-objectification. Objects do not have feelings, objects do not care, objectification is stopping women from being in contact with their desire/sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:42 PM
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You watch the social media that represents how you are already feeling inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:38 PM
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Something that works when women do it does not mean that the same thing is going to work when men do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:36 PM
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Re: "a man who is attractive enough to be selective himself" Imho, this is not really about being selective, it's about a man who does not want to select anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:25 PM
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So you prefer the scenario where sex is given as a reward?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:22 PM
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Re: "nobody cares how you feel" -> You are the one who has to start caring about your own feelings! Doing this is a game-changer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:16 PM
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Which part? Or all of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:03 PM
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So, this is the only one out of my three comments you felt the need to reply to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:34 AM
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Re: "Many men are attracted to the idea of a casual relationship unexpectedly developing into a long-term partnership or marriage." -> Then they are lying to themselves. Those are always the guys who lie to get sex and then disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:04 AM
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Re: "2. A majority of men have stronger incentives to please" -> If you are a man in this category, it's not about practice, it's about knowing what turns you on FIRST. You want to do to your partner what turns you on! For that you need to be emotionally connected to your own sexuality. That is literally the only thing that stops you from being in the No. 1 category! Actual sex (as practice) is not required!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:02 AM
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Re: "high quality partner (looks, money, and good charecter)" I have literally never met a man like that in my entire life!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:57 AM
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Re: "But being very sexually attracted to your partner from the beginning is the PRIMARY component of a happy relationship for most men. Sexual attraction is often one of the primary ways men experience romantic desire and intimacy, and that should not be frowned upon or treated as something men need to apologize for." -> Men need to understand that they have a biological sexual attraction (that is why they would have sex with most women) on one hand and a "mind pretend attraction" which has mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:55 AM
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Re: "Physical beauty matters even more to men than women." This is just so utterly wrong when it comes to physical sexual attraction. Men can sleep with, as they would say "ugly dogs", their equipment still works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:48 AM
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100% this!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:45 AM
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Do you believe that most men are aware that their issues in dating/relationships are mostly due to their mommy issues? I guess I am asking whether most men are self-aware in this respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 09:09 AM
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I can tell you this with 100% certainty: They had a dead bedroom because your mother was never actually sexually attracted (sexually desired) to your father in the first place. That is why he married her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:18 AM
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Re: "If i am a highly educated and well paid guy, but don't look that good, i will assume that somebody way better looking but less educated and/or less earning is fair game to me." -> Way better looking woman and not so good looking guy always ends in a dead bedroom!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:26 AM
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So you reward her with being clingy once she gives you better sex and once she signals desperation? So you love to be super duper clingy yourself but it works out better when she is the super duper clingy one?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:23 PM
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What does this mean? "I go back to being lovesick" "I can go back to being lovesick"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:02 PM
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Why not? That's originally what it was meant to do. Otherwise it's just "asking women out who you think are interested in you".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:16 PM
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I think the whole cold approach thing is meant to get men more comfortable with women by walking through their own discomfort. It will not get you dates, it will get you rejected, but it will make you more self-confident. If you view it as an exercise to improve confidence, you will also not feel rejection in the same way. It has to be in real life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:03 PM
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"Someone who has not yet been Defiled by the Penis." -> You gotta be kidding me man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:54 PM
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Re: "you limit how much she gets" Why are you doing it though? What is the goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:13 PM
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How did she tell you this? "my current girlfriend wanted me to be less available for her"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:09 PM
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What is it that redpill men are selling?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:03 PM
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"She wanted to know how to control the feelings" It's impossible to control your own feelings! You have to feel them as they come up! Most people refuse to feel them so they create misery for themselves or others as a result. Feelings are always trying to tell us something. What would be your advice to the girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:19 AM
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"I hope things work out for you." This is an attempt of your own mind to belittle me in your eyes (poor woman, she must be upset with her own life because she is a slut or a whore). The result is that it becomes easier for you to dismiss everything I said. Dominating your own mind into perceiving a woman a certain way just to make yourself feel good is a male domination strategy that fails 100% of the time, because it makes it impossible for you to actually engage with what women are saying. Plu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:07 AM
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Two scenarios for hookups: 1. The woman seeks a man for sex - (this scenario is not the norm, so she's going to go for the hottest guy she can get) The kind of sex in this case, where she is in charge, is not going to be sexually fulfilling for her. The problem is that the man she had sex with is probably over the moon by receiving this kind of sex. 2. The man seeks the woman for sex but pretends to want a relationship - sex here can be fabulous or bad for her, depending on sexual attraction/che…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:55 AM
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Men have to do this. If you believe in a marketplace of dating where the ultimate reward for men is sex and the ultimate reward for women is marriage, then men have to reward sexual women with marriage. As it stands, sexual women are being degraded into sluts by men and non-sexual women are being viewed as marriage material by men. If men change this they change the whole game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:27 AM
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Re: "How does a guy “change” if his main issue is his height?" -> He does not change. I only copied the comment context I was referring to. In my situation it had nothing to do with height (my ex-husband is actually around 10cm taller than the man I fell in love with), it had to do with worse looks (sexual attraction). My height "requirement" is he has to be at least as tall as me in heels. Imho, when a lot of women bang on about "the guy needing to be at least 6'" they are doing this because me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:34 AM
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Are you aware that you are now pointing out that me repeating things you said means that I pronounced them in the first place? And are now arguing that the things you pointed out in the first place were not correct in the first place??? If you change words which do not have the same meaning you are changing the meaning of a sentence/argument. A slut is not a whore is not a gold digger is not a promiscuous woman. There is a reason we have different words for different things and there is a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:21 AM
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I was not joking about not being able to make sense of what you wrote: What does this sentence mean "not only does female promiscuity increase, for obvious reasons, paternity uncertainty mathematically, it does so biologically"? Increases in regards to what? And what does this part refer to and/or mean "paternity uncertainty mathematically, it does so biologically". Re: "Cambridge University Press" I am not reading the article as infidelity (as in the title) has nothing to do with being a slut. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:09 PM
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Btw, a whore is a businesswoman, a slut is a woman who sleeps with more men than deemed appropriate (which varies) in search of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:02 PM
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I only get sexually hot and horny from one cock. But I had to wade through quite a few cocks (I was not into) until I found that one cock that gets me hot, horny and pornographic. So, yes, slut-shaming is personal to me. Re: "What do you mean by love? Eros, agape, storge, or philia?" -> All of it, I want all of it, but only with that one guy who is attached to that cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:57 PM
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We are not animals, the alpha/beta is not as decisive as with animals. We have a mind, an ego, a perception of ourselves and what we want which is separate from the body. The rule is mind over matter. There are alphas that are short and fat. It does not mean he is going to get the same attention on the dating market as a beta with looks 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:44 PM
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Sooo...could it also just be the intense passion that makes people fuck...and not necessarily the dislike part?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:39 PM
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Which ones? Those with zero libido or those searching for love? Or both?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:31 PM
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Okay, so no first hand experience... So, just to check, when you say "fucking" you do mean actual sexual intercourse, right? Can you define hate from your pov pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:25 PM
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Not from the bible belt, the bible is a story of the sun, moon and stars, see Astrotheology. I deem all politicans to be criminals and politics a bread and circus show. Nope, not a lesbian, I also do not get turned on by men's cocks, I am the same as all the other women out there. I had to find that one cock that makes me want to do pornographic things. But he's a prude with a mother from a lifelong dead bedroom, so unfortunately I do not live in 24/7 cockheaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:19 PM
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You insinuate to shame me as a slut/whore and I tell you that you are divorced from reality. Who was more polite about things?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:08 PM
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I am not speaking for all women. There are tons of women out there with a zero libido. But those are the ones who will definitely not go out to have casual sex. Speaking as a woman, what does monogamy offer: Love
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:04 PM
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It's not just hormones. It's connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:01 PM
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My words were not meant to shame or insult you. You did ask whether I am a slut or a whore and I think my answer was relatively polite in view of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:44 PM
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Re: "because this is not how love (or sex) works" So, how does love and sex work in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:33 PM
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It's how men work, it's in their nature. Just as women are different in their nature. Do you have first hand experience of this "People who hate each other have sex. For free." otherwise I have to deem it hearsay or something out of a movie because I would never have sex with someone I hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:32 PM
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It does not happen consciously. It's a "choice" that happens unconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:28 PM
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So, as it looks you are advising men not to get married (from other posts) and you are advising men to also not date and instead use OnlyFans...I guess they all heard you loud and clear because that is actually what they are doing... Soooo, why do you still feel the need to hate on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:27 PM
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In a committed romantic partnership (be it marriage or a LTR), love and sex have everything to do with each other. "Being rewarded with sex for doing something simple like being nice or taking her on a date." That is absolutely not what I was talking about and I totally agree with you on this one. But sex is the reason why men go on dates...it's just male nature, there is nothing wrong with that. If they were not looking for sex, they would not go on dates...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 06:15 PM
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Eeeeeeeh, Switzerland is more highly developed than the US and the same goes for Japan.... Philippines is a while different world!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:39 PM
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Have you ever heard of the concept of love? And that when you (a partner/wife) give your man sex he will equate it with receiving love? You do not have sex with him, he does not feel loved. Goods/services in exchange for money is called a business, it's not a trade: "There are women out there who like it when you do nice things for them and will gladly fuck you in exchange."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:32 PM
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You will be desirable because you are an easy mark and you will be milked for all you got (dollares). And you are pretending that this is somehow an advantage for you...?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:26 PM
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I'd love to engage with your message, but I'm a woman...not a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:15 PM
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That is every man's expectation when he gets married. It's a universal concept. Maybe you did not get the memo, or maybe were not being honest with yourself or your spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 05:06 PM
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So, men who are married who expect that their wives want to have sex with them every day (or at all) are stupid? I suppose the advice you are therefore giving every man is to not get married...?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:58 PM
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The one who is trying to tell you that you still have a long way to go until you get an actual grasp on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:50 PM
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See, my issue is that you are very vague...which makes me think that you do not actually know for certain whether any cheating occured at all...sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:48 PM
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Nope, gotta strongly disagree, it has zero to do with religion. Why on earth would a man marry a woman otherwise? What is the "modern" trade in your opinion then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:47 PM
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"My husband and I still have sex almost daily" -> Sorry but I ain't buying it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:13 PM
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The traditional exchange (aka trade) and expectation was and still is marriage for sex. Women have turned it into marriage for access to sex. Why on earth do married women lie to their husbands about not wanting to have sex with them (ever)? Why on earth do men stay married to these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:10 PM
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Where on earth are you getting those numbers you mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:08 PM
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Please enlighten me then. What does shaming mean? How does it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:54 PM
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This does not mean it has anything to do with "variety". How many people? How do you know? How long did the LDR last? I need more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:52 PM
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Are you sure you did not write this drunk or on drugs? I would love to reply to facts, but your words do not make sense...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:45 PM
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A whore is a businesswoman, sex for money. A slut is not a whore. A trade is not a business.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:43 PM
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Did you literally miss my whole point? "But, if a man has sex with an obese woman but discards obese women in regards to LTR or marriage, it's fat shaming."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:20 PM
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Men generally perceive women who are asexual (withholding sex, only giving it as a reward) as marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:48 PM
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What is your zodiac?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:41 PM
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Re: "You can't negotiate desire. You can't guilt someone into being attracted to you." I am going to pretend you meant sexual attraction. Do most women want to feel sexual attraction in general, or does it make them feel out of control? Do men select women (for marriage) who are in control or out of control? Are women interested in being used for casual sex? Dear men, you generally have to reward women (marry them more than the in control prudes) who have the sexual hots for you. You are creatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:22 PM
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My crazy take: I believe we live in a toxic matriarchy (disguised and labelled as patriarchy), upheld by an army of scared men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:10 PM
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Does it seem like this is happening though? "maximize the outcomes they want" Are women getting more commitment from the men they want and are men getting more casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 02:08 PM
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This "Red pill: withhold attention and investment to increase her pursuit. Create scarcity. Don't over-invest early. Have options. Make her feel like she has to earn your time." will never work to get men sex. It is an attempt by men to behave like women. Which women want to have sex with men who behave like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:41 PM
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Once a woman is in love (sexually and emotionally) with a man who is equally as invested in her (sexually and emotionally) the man gets scared.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:58 PM
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I gotta disagree with you here. It will not have the effect that "average girls will more easily meet average guys for casual sex". Women will always be drawn to monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:39 PM
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The vast majority of women are not into casual sex. Not slut-shaming women will not change that about women. They will still want a dedicated partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:38 PM
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Just an idea: woman sleeping around = desired by a lot of men therefore extremely desirable man sleeping around = desired by a lot of women therefore extremely desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:33 PM
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Just to point out an important note: slut and whore are two different words with two very different meanings. They cannot be used interchangeably.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:29 PM
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"Perceived increase in uncertainty of paternity" -> correct this is only perceived "Increased likelihood that she will divorce you for cash and prizes" -> That's not a slut, that's a gold-digger So, as it looks to me, of the two reasons you gave as to why men do not want to marry a slut, one is a perceived reason and the other is a reason that does not apply. I cannot see any actual reasons here. Thank you for pointing out that men love sluts, they usually do not love their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:25 PM
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Correct. "Bitch" refers to behaviour, whereas "slut" and "whore" refer to sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:18 PM
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No. Interest in variety is part of male sexuality. It is not part of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:15 PM
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You are equating: Liberated, lustful women = cheating women Women can be liberated/lustful and faithful at the same time. But also, a sexually lustful woman has to be satisfied by her partner. This can lead to performance anxiety in men. To avoid this those men marry women with a non-existent libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:03 PM
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Unfortunately there are women who support this, yes. Usually it's those women who assign high value to themselves and have a partner who values them for their non existent libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:56 AM
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It's all objectification. If a woman discards a guy who is as tall as her (in heels) because of his height, it's height shaming. With obese it's a lot about sexual attraction, so that is not straightforward and tricky, even though it is objectification. But, if a man has sex with an obese woman but discards obese women in regards to LTR or marriage, it's fat shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:51 AM
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Yes, it's objectification and slut-shaming. It's irrelevant what you say, the relevant issue here is that you deem she has less (or no) "value" as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 11:24 AM
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I did this "go for shorter/worse looking guys and actively reciprocate their attention", got married, and I ended up in a dead bedroom (my fault, I married a guy I was not sexually attracted to or emotionally invested in). I did this "go for your looksmatch", fell in love (sexually and emotionally) and the guy got scared. And I am already an emotionally stable human, so I was not sending emotionally mixed or fearful vibes. Men need to actually change (and not try to fake change to get sex). Thos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 08:36 AM
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Most women have a broken sacral (sexual) chakra. It needs to be healed. Most women therefore give sex as a reward or to receive love in return. Men view women who give sex as a reward as marriage material. Men shame women who exchange sex for love as sluts. The way men "value" women has to change. Men have to stop objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:51 AM
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Chad = hot = alpha = social status -> This is utterly wrong Alphas and betas exist. You are born an alpha or a beta, it cannot be changed, it's "in the body". Alphas come in all looks/shapes/sizes, as do betas. Alphas are very rare, they do have a special physical presence that sets them apart from betas. But a short, fat man can be an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:44 AM
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Now if you'd stop fucking them (western women) too and exclusively stick to asian women altogether I'd take you seriously. You say (asian and) african women are marriage material, good luck with that. With objectification you will always end up in a dead bedroom, just like you would with an american/european wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:36 AM
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Yes, it's two sides of the same coin. I do not want anything to do with either side, I want to mint a different coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:31 AM
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Chad simply does not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:23 PM
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The problem is that when women settle for someone they are not sexually attracted to is that it always ends in a dead bedroom...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:34 PM
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There is a huge massive difference between "not being afraid to appear like a moron" (aka confidence) and "being an actual moron".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:53 PM
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Are you aware that you are part of the issue? You are objectifying women: Hookups -> good to use western women for that Wife -> western women are too difficult for that Why on earth are you surprised that western women treat you a certain way in return for you objectifying them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:33 PM
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