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DiscriminationJzurb/r/MensRights12/03/19 07:27 AM
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The problem is these aren't "buzz words", they are labels. Broadly defined. Which make it easy for people to be lumped into, so they can then be held against them.
/r/MensRights20/03/19 08:38 PM
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It happened to me.
/r/MensRights20/03/19 08:33 PM
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This is it 100%.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:57 PM
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So ridiculous. Any job or promotion should be based on qualifications and experience. That's how the job is done best.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 08:25 PM
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You are a joke.
/r/MensRights17/03/19 12:07 AM
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For sure. Yeah we're entering a society where men and women won't be able to work together anymore. It's so crazy.
/r/MensRights16/03/19 12:17 AM
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It's ridiculous. She also had no reason to be afraid for her job, so I don't see it, in this case, as her protecting her job. I see it as pure discrimination against me.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 09:18 PM
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It's in the post.
/r/MensRights15/03/19 12:04 PM
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I appreciate your comment, and I'm sorry you've had to endure some of the things you have. I certainly know this is a small population of people (not just women). I'm glad to hear you would speak to your coworkers and not pull something like what this individual did to me. I never thought someone would do something like this, especially being in the helping profession. Some people are capable of some really vindictive stuff. I wish you had been on my team instead!
/r/MensRights14/03/19 11:27 PM
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It's unbelievable. I still can't believe people I trusted and worked side by side with for a year and a half would do something like this. No more trusting coworkers.
/r/MensRights14/03/19 04:07 PM
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I wish I had an answer to that.
/r/MensRights14/03/19 02:57 AM
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That's exactly it! I had no idea it was like this when I started in this field. I'm quite terrified now!
/r/MensRights13/03/19 02:08 PM
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Life, huh? I'm sure they will too. Thank you.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 02:06 PM
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That's actually a great idea.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 02:05 PM
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This is certainly not an isolated incident. It is happening, and it is getting worse. I don't believe it's just women, more social justice warriors, and I believe it's only a small percentage of women, but that small percentage is having a big affect. It will cause a lot of issues for men. I was actually suicidal last month. A few months ago my gf and I broke up, she took the dog and moved back in with her mom. So I held onto our apartment for a few months in case we worked things out and she co…
/r/MensRights13/03/19 01:18 AM
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That's the funny thing. I was never intending to change anyone's mind about anything; just looking to express my opinion, which is not okay. But I completely agree with you. I have learned my lesson.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 01:12 AM
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It is such a shame that it has come to this. I'm sorry you're in that situation.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 01:01 AM
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Man, I live in Canada haha
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:59 AM
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Yeah I'm grateful to be off this fucking "team".
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:59 AM
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Agreed!
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:47 AM
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I disagree, unfortunately. He's seen it before where even if a white man won a discrimination case, he was unable to find employment afterwards. Word gets out. People don't want to hire you because you are ignoring your privilege. I wish this wasn't the case.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:44 AM
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Unbelievable. Any mere suggestion that men get discriminated against, even if there are facts to back it up, makes you sexist. I think there is a belief among this group of women (it's certainly a small percentage of women, but there are still a lot of them) that men can't be discriminated against, which in and of itself, is discriminatory. But of course they would never see it that way. I'm sorry this happened to you.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:42 AM
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I thought so too. I didn't see anything wrong with this. I believe there is a difference between saying "let's look into hiring another male" and "don't hire another female." but that all depends on who you're saying it in front of.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:39 AM
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That would be wonderful! Perhaps one day. I'd need more education. And financial support. But it's a good idea!
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:37 AM
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So I know you think there is more, and this is one of the reasons I am having such a hard time with this. Because yeah, there should be more than this. It is unbelievable that this is the whole situation. But from my perspective and what I know, it is.
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:27 AM
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There is no more to the story. There really isn't. At least not as far as I know. I really believe this young lady made up her mind about me the moment she met me, and everything I said and did went through a filter she had. And my manager as well had very strong opinions about men so when this list was presented to her, I don't think she handled it fairly. I want to make a few things clear, though. I am not suggesting someone shouldn't be offended by the things I've said. So when I say other fe…
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:25 AM
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Geeze. I'm sorry this happened to you. That's so awful!!
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:09 AM
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That's exactly what I am doing. Thank you for your response!
/r/MensRights13/03/19 12:00 AM
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I had no idea about any of this when entering the field. Silly me, I thought people in helping professions would be more understanding and open-minded individuals. My bad.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 11:08 PM
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I legitimately thought all of this was behind us. I did the training. I'm not perfect, but I am a good person. The rest of my team loved me. I never thought this would happen. It's been over a month and I'm still in disbelief with both the fact that this happened, and how it happened.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 10:51 PM
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I agree. The of the hardest things for me to deal with is that I don't believe I said anything wrong. And it didn't even matter. I didn't start looking for another job for a number of reasons. But if I knew then what I know now...
/r/MensRights12/03/19 10:16 PM
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Agreed. Humans are humans. And individuals are individuals. Everyone should be treated based on who they are as an individual.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 10:07 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 10:05 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 10:05 PM
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It's something I'm debating, but how awful is that? I mean this is what I want to do with my career. I also don't want to go back to school and start from the ground up in another profession. But it may come to that one day.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:52 PM
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I'm in Canada, but thank you. But I don't want to do that. Women and men should be able to work together! Or am I just being naive?
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:50 PM
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I have told you everything from my perspective. I am not withholding anything, and I cannot comment on the perspectives of anyone else.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:49 PM
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It's been extremely difficult to deal with. I'm not perfect, but I make every effort to be as kind, supportive, accepting and open-minded as I can be. It comes with the job, but these are also the values I live by. So yeah, I've been having a very hard time coming to terms with this. I too believe these comments were very trivial, but apparently that doesn't matter. Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:47 PM
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I think it already is.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:45 PM
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I hired a lawyer who advised against fighting this because of how it looks. He's seen this backfire on other people. Option 1 it is. Thank you. Yeah it's scary times.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:45 PM
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I added the list.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:28 PM
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I added it.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:27 PM
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I agree. I just never thought it would come to this. I've learned. And yeah, I too think it'll get worse before (if) it gets better. These are scary times.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:27 PM
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Thank you!
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:26 PM
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I agree. I already knew she was a shitty manager before all this. But I never imagined this happening.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:26 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. It's totally toxic. So unbelievable considering it's a helping profession!
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:25 PM
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The manager is a female who handled this situation based on her bias toward men. She's safe. I live in Canada. I'm going to continue to pursue my dreams but be sooo much more careful now. I've learned. I was part of a new program (1.5 years in) so I'm saying the funding wasn't there. We weren't making good numbers so it's possible the program will be cut at some point anyway. Thank you for your response!
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:24 PM
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Agreed. They are so absolutely blind to their hypocrisy though.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:20 PM
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I like the way you put that.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:20 PM
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I think this is related to SJW mentality. Seeing everything through the lens of power and oppression. So if a man disagrees with a woman or shares a different opinion, he is using his power to try and oppress her. And that's just absolute bullshit.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:19 PM
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You are correct. My lawyer also advised me against suing.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:17 PM
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I figured they did. I am now learning it's one of the worst fields for this.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:16 PM
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I'm not one to usually hope for these things, but in this case, I do. Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:15 PM
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Well I am in Canada, but I agree. It seems like the more things that are accepted (and I believe they should be), the more things that aren't. Inclusiveness is breeding division, and it shouldn't be.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:15 PM
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If I knew then what I know now. I never thought it would come to this. I guess naivety was my weakness.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:11 PM
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It terrifies me. My manager was a counsellor for years and she has made her opinions about men very clear. And this young woman is working towards being a counsellor. I don't know how she'll work with men who have a different opinion than her.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:10 PM
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It seems that way. But what a shame that is.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:08 PM
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Thank you. The sad thing is, I'd say in situations such as this, I probably got off a lot easier than others. It is very bad out there right now.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:08 PM
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Shit. It's so terrifying that it has come to this, isn't it? Sadly that's a good idea. But wow, in a world where we are trying to be so inclusive it seems as though we've never been more divided.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:07 PM
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Unfortunately not where I'm from.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:06 PM
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That's the thing. I didn't think the things I was saying were controversial! I was trying to avoid topics such as that. But to some people, anything can be offensive.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:05 PM
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That's the plan. Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:04 PM
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Agreed. But I've also, in my 20 years of working, have never worked with anyone that would do this kinda thing to someone else. I've always had good working relationships with coworkers. I've learned my lesson.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:03 PM
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Thank you. I wish you the same.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:02 PM
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Yeah I agree. My lawyer encouraged me not to fight this because it would ruin me, so I didn't. And wow, what a great comparison between toxic masculinity and female hysteria. Very true. We are heading down such an awful path. I really want to dedicate my life to helping others, but I am, at this point, terrified of this happening again. It happened so easily and so unfairly, that now I am just paranoid. It's awful. I am honestly not sure of such sites. Good question though.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 09:01 PM
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Could be a part of it.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:57 PM
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Exactly. Women seem to be using history to justify their beliefs and their behaviour. I'm not saying women still aren't oppressed; many are. But many are also not. This young woman who got me fired is 23, lives at home rent free, parents paid for her education, and she works Monday to Friday making 60k right out of school. I don't know her story, but in a situation like that, maybe you shouldn't be going and attacking good men because of all the injustices women have endured.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:57 PM
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Yeah that's the impression I got.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:53 PM
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Wow I'm so sorry that happened to you. It really is amazing that in field we all go in to help others, that the very people in the field can be so vicious. It's unbelievable.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:53 PM
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Agreed. Thank you very much.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:51 PM
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Thank you very much.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:49 PM
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Canada.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:49 PM
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It's the world we live in now.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:48 PM
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Will do! Thanks!
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:47 PM
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It's not fair payback. We shouldn't be punished for what others have done. I'm sorry this is happening to you too.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:47 PM
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Thank you. I ended up finding another job, with a 9k pay cut and it's not exactly what I want to do but it'll do for now. My company had a code of conduct that wasn't followed. In my official termination form or whatever it's called they mentioned "their efforts to transition me to the culture were unsuccessful". There were no efforts, unless you count the training where the trainer himself said he believes I'm being singled out. It's bullshit. I live in Canada, and in my province you can be fir…
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:42 PM
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Yeah it clearly wasn't the right place for me. Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:37 PM
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Brutal. I'm sorry this happened to you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 08:37 PM
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Oh yeah. It certainly doesn't go both ways. Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:38 PM
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Unfortunately not.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:37 PM
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In a nutshell.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:37 PM
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I do feel very helpless, yes. And I agree with you!
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:37 PM
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Yep. Welcome to 2019 and this really bitterly cold climate.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:35 PM
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I think we've accepted it but people are too scared to do anything about it because of fear of losing jobs/reputations/etc. We live in an outrage culture and people are no longer having discussions about things but are actually attacking others by going behind their backs and if a manager/dean/whoever doesn't respond to these things, then they too will be labeled sexist/racist/etc. It's terrifying.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:34 PM
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Yep. My lawyer got me 2 months extra severence pay from them, but anything over and above that just wasn't going to happen.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:31 PM
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This is exactly it.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 04:20 PM
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Hey man. I really appreciate it. I am sorry this happened to you, too. I definitely didn't see it coming. This did happen over a month ago, and I have since resolved it to the best of my ability by getting more severence from them. I have learned to be very careful now. I mean I thought I was already being careful, but clearly you have to be really careful. I've been in the field for over 3 years and been working for nearly 20 years, I've never worked in an environment with such sensitive and to…
/r/MensRights12/03/19 03:15 PM
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Thank you.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 03:11 PM
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Thank you. I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's great to hear you landed somewhere better. I'm hoping the same for myself. I appreciate the response.
/r/MensRights12/03/19 03:02 PM
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