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Most people aren't really moral actors. People's morality is based of what they think looks good socially and benefits them. Just ask any random person to detail their moral framework and they have no clue what you are talking about. So most behavior is driven by incentives rather than clear convictions, and I'd argue overly morally conscious people don't really benefit from being moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:22 AM
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I don't believe that no woman is considered low value for men. I think it's more that a lot of men's ego depends on how sexually successful they are, so they take what they can get. That's almost certainly socialization based though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 06:36 PM
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I say this because the physical strength argument is trash. How save you are depends on the people you surround yourself with, this is both true for men and women. If a woman wants to rape a guy she has plenty of options that don't require physical strength. This isent an issue of strength it's an issue of safety, and I don't know how the stats for domestic abuse skew. Either way that's not the point I'm trying to contest. What I'm contesting is that physical strength somehow greatly enhances yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 04:38 PM
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Just because they are paranoid, doesn't mean that they are justified though. As far as I'm aware, most rape happens between people who know each other, not random strangers. And men generally get attacked more than women. Additionally, your best self defense tool is running away and screaming for help. In first world society it's silly to consider physical strength a major privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:48 PM
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I understand that narrative and in theory it makes sense. But the types of men who struggle the most with dating are usually not struggling because they are perceived as too threatening or inappropriate. If anything it's the opposite, safe boring IT nerds, very introverted or shy guys, or autistic men seem to struggle the most from what I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:18 PM
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While I agree there are plenty of guys who don't do shit. I feel like hobby spaces, especially anything competitive or nerdy, are usually far more frequented by men. Even going to alternative Clubs it's usually more men there from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:48 AM
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Yeah I think that's fair. Obviously people can look good without it. It's just that I don't think it detracts from your appearance when you use it well. And it helps complement different styles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:33 PM
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Yes, makes perfect sense. And I'm sure all the social media thirst traps are wearing makeup to increase their female audience. C'mon the only reason people say they don't like makeup is because they have weird hang ups about it. No matter what look you are going for it can be utilized to improve that look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:02 AM
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The amount of men that say they don't like any makeup, when they really just mean makeup that isn't mega obvious. x) Introspection can be lacking in both genders what a shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:35 AM
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I said I'm interested in it because my experience is very much the opposite of what is being portrayed here, but nowhere did I claim that my experience is the norm, or that other experiences are invalid. That's why I specified that the difference might be due to the types of communities I primarily engage with. For the gender that supposedly reads more your reading comprehension is lacking 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:26 AM
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I'm interested in this, mainly because I have been gaming for a very long time, and in the communities I frequent there has never been much harassment of women going on, outside of the occasional attempt at edgy humor. But I have always been active in very niche game communities which are pretty small and tight knight, where people are happy for every single person playing. Also, people can't just be anonymous there, so being a piece of shit has consequences. Also isn't there a common experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:20 AM
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Intuition without analysis is the issue. Because there are lot of ways your intuitions can be tricked, and the type of people who are good at tricking your intuitions are probably not particularly good people. This is true for both men and women, but the "feminine instinct" meme seems like a bad thing on its own due to this. As an example, someone who might act very friendly and praise you highly for something you do probably is picked up very positively by your intuition. But when you reflect o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:43 PM
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I wonder about this too. What are you supposed to do in a relationship where you don't share at least some interests in common? This type of advice might make dating easier, but the relationships forming from it are just going to be miserable after a while. Feels like that kind of advice is given by people who only care about physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:20 PM
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A lot of competitive video games are 99% male-dominated. I travel around Europe to go to tournaments for fighting games and have a lot of friends in the community. But it's all men. None of the guys there will ever find a relationship with a woman through their hobby or even the social circle that is part of that hobby. And the 2-3 women who are part of the community are swarming with male attention for obvious reasons. I'm sure there are plenty of hobbies like that for men, where even if you ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:41 PM
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Yup pretty much, it's definitely hard to make social connections when you are starting at 0 or even just a small circle of friends. Though I found some ways to get to meet new people. I recently made new acquaintances by going frequently to a manga store, metal clubs, and university events even though I'm not in uni anymore. Outside of the manga store, those aren't really places I'd naturally frequent very often and none of the people I met turned into strong relationships yet, but I guess you g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:21 PM
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Yeah, church or just being more connected with your local community. I remember when I was a kid everyone in the place where I lived just kind of knew each other, and would meet frequently at outdoor events. Now that I'm an adult I don't even know my neighbours x.x Also personally the only way to build connections that I found was to go to more niche interest events/stores and just start random chats with anyone anytime there is a reasonable opportunity, although that method relies a lot on chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:39 PM
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Yeah exactly, that's what I mean. I think this type of relationship building is way more common than either side just straight up hitting on another person. But the problem right now is that it's getting more rare when peoples social circles are almost entirely online. I think the advice men are given to go into social places where they might meet the type of woman they want to date and go there frequently is good advice for both genders. I think if people do that neither side has to really "hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:17 PM
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You are kind of making OP's point. Judging from my own experience, the type of guys who don't feel comfortable hitting on women are the types of men who don't just want to get dates with women because they are attractive, but might care a lot more about compatible personalities and also don't like making other people uncomfortable. That's why the assertiveness point people frequently make here is also kind of silly. So going for men who aren't as forward about hitting on women like OP suggested …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 08:02 PM
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Of course, they would still take issue with it. But I think the reason why guys get extra annoyed at women dodging any possibility of them being privileged is because mainstream discourse is filled with how privileged men are right now. So as a guy, there's not much room to even deny it. The people who try to deny it in here just get laughed at. When you then try to point out that women have certain privileges too but it then feels like everyone is trying to either downplay them, blame men for i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:43 PM
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The privileges are massively overexaggerated. Poor people are subconsciously thinking, "if I was rich, I wouldn't have all these financial troubles I'm having now." Poor people seem to have no problem putting themselves in the shoes of a rich person; what they do have trouble with is getting rid of their poor mindset in such a thought exercise. They can imagine themselves as rich, but they somehow magically retain their lower living standards, simpler social expectations, contentment with a mode…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:17 PM
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I think many non-chronically online people get into relationships due to exposure to one another since that increases attraction. As for losers who still have to go the dating gauntlet, I guess that it's just a question of throwing yourself at enough women. The people who are very motivated to date just for physical attraction might eventually succeed just because some women will like how they chase her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:21 PM
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Some of the highest earners nowadays are scrawny nerds that no one would consider dominant. So the resource point is silly. Also even if it was true you are just playing into the argument that it's a bad preference to have. "Women like to be given stuff" is exactly promoting people to be more materialistic. And protection is also a silly point. What form of protection does a dominant man offer? Unless he's some kind of well-known mob boss that everyone fears being dominant isn't going to scare p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:22 PM
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Saying women want men who have power over other men is just describing one aspect of dominance, it doesn't explain why they want dominance. And it's bad because in today's society, there is not much of a need to have power over other men, and most men will not have power over other men. Just imagine telling a young boy: "Hey son if you want to be attractive to women make sure to dominate other men." It obviously just creates incentives for men to behave more materialistic, egoistic, and status-d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:40 PM
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Sure, my point is that if it's not just related to kink stuff, then it's just a bad preference to have because it incentivizes destructive, egoistic, materialistic, and shallow behaviors for the sake of being more attractive to women. If that appeal is rooted in social conditioning, then I think it should be shamed just the same way we shame men for wanting a demure stay-at-home bangmaid nowadays. If it's rooted in biology then red pill guys are just right in a lot of ways and either society nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:06 PM
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I think I read a study a while ago that claimed that submissiveness was overrepresented in both men and women as a fetish. If that is true it would seem that at least in terms of sexual situations both genders would want a dominant partner. But for women, it's apparently a dealbreaker? Even if the study isn't true or I'm misremembering. I don't see why you couldn't just play into the dominance angle in the bedroom, even if you earn less and don't care about taking charge in every social situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:07 PM
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Then it sounds less like attraction toward confidence and more towards competence? But confidence is just the easy social signal for said competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:20 PM
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Even if that was the reason I don't know if confidence in itself would be the desired trait. Just considering this hypothetical. A woman that's attracted to some guy who is really confident, in himself and speaks a lot about a random topic. The woman does look a bit into the topic because she's now interested and finds out he's actually laughably wrong on almost everything he talks about. Would that not be an attraction killer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:39 PM
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I don't understand why confidence and assertiveness are valuable in the first place. There's plenty of people who are confident for no good reason and plenty of people who second guess themselves constantly, despite being very skilled. If anything I'd say people who are less sure of themselves and have humility in what they know usually try way harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:36 AM
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I feel very conflicted about this. In general I think most men aren't very interesting to engage with either. But as an introverted guy it's infinitely easier to get into contact with men who are introspective and share interests with me. I just go into any online space related to my interests and chat with the people who don't seem like total morons. Or to spaces in real life that cater to more nerdy interests. Since the average person you meet in your day-to-day life is not super interesting, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:45 PM
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Weird that nobody can just bring up examples. I don't even necessarily buy into this line of thought but off the top of the hat you could argue that the motivation to be attractive to women fuels a lot of men's desires for accomplishment, status, money, being socialized in ways that is appealing to women, and whatever else you get told you need to do to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:54 PM
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Well, you probably don't have the problem that men don't find you uninteresting, considering you share some more male-dominated interests and argue with random people on Reddit. But obviously there seems to be an issue with men being unable to find women they can relate to, to some extent. I'm not trying to put blame on someone, just explore that part of the argument and see if you engage with it. But I'm pretty happy that you engaged with me so far and kept answering my questions, so thank you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:45 PM
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I didn't skewer through your post history to check what stances you take on other posts, im engaging with what you are responding with here. And here you refuse to engage to analyze whatever underlying issues might cause OPs post that is not just misogyny. This is despite me saying multiple times that OPs post is retarded, he seems like the kind of person who surrounds himself with women just for their looks and then complains about them, I don't see how this is me giving OP the benefit of the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 11:42 AM
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OP's premise as stated is not that he only values women for their bodies, that's an implication you draw from what he states, and I think it's a fair thing to read into the post since he and his friends are choosing to surround themselves with women they don't like just because they are attractive. But the premise OP was making is that a majority of women are not enjoyable to be around for men. This could theoretically be a true premise without it being based on misogyny, simply due to different…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:54 AM
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I told you the thing I wanted to argue about in my first reply, which is whether you should try to improve/change yourself for dating. The hypothetical premise of OP still stands in the argument. But I'm not trying to argue that the premise is actually true in real life. Also would you not advise a guy who just spends most of his lifetime in front of a PC working on things he finds enjoyable and playing games with online friends to become more social and find some activities where he can meet wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:23 PM
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Baking, cooking, gardening, and dancing are all hobbies that while not primarily dominated by men, still plenty of men partake in, while again there are plenty of hobby spaces that are extremely male-dominated, usually relating to nerdy or societally unpopular hobbies. Also, yes if you can't conceive of a hypothetical scenario where women should work on their personalities or interests to be more appealing to partners you are proving OP right. Of course, you can say that this doesn't apply to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:24 PM
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Sure, you should do what makes you happy. But assuming you want to date and you want to be valued for more than your body, then I think trying to change or improve for potential partners is reasonable. And like I said, men are already doing this to some extent, or are at least frequently told to do it. I'm not asking you to change your entire personality, but just in a hypothetical consider the possibility that maybe working on your self would be beneficial. Because if you cannot imagine a scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:10 PM
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You don't have to agree with OPs premise of course. But assuming he was correct and most men find most women to be uninteresting, I'd say trying to not be uninteresting is the better strategy. Men are already trying to do the same for women, when everyone keeps telling us that we need to improve our personality in various ways. Also if you want to criticize the premise I'd argue that both genders have a lot of bland people representing them, but I think men are a lot more varied in their interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 07:25 PM
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Wouldn't the better answer be to become interesting or at least not a buzz kill? How you act as a person is one of the things you have the most control over, and nowhere in the post did OP say that women can't be fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 05:23 PM
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I'm interested in this. What's the evidence that social circles are more actively maintained by women as opposed to it just being easier for women to keep and enter social circles compared to guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:49 AM
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It's probably because games are a broad category and women tend to go for more casual, social games or very popular games. So it depends how being a gamer is defined. Technically my grandmother and mother are gamers, because they play puzzle games on their phones. It's even a joke where people say that to get a gamer girl you have to play either league of legends, Minecraft or stardew valley. Also I know only 1% of them are women because the communities are small enough that you get to know most…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:30 PM
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BlazBlue central fiction is the one I'm the most active in. But there's a lot of overlap of player's in all kinds of fighting games. Like street fighter 6 or granblue fantasy versus. What are you trying to figure out from the specific examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:08 PM
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The community I'm the most active in and that I used as an example is a niche anime fighting game community. The people there are generally very nice and cool guys. They aren't super anti social either, or super unattractive, they travel around the world to meet up for fighting game events. But they are simply into weirder niche hobbies and that makes it hard to ever find someone who shares their passions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:39 PM
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That probably depends on the community and guy? I know men of all types that hate women even the ones who are highly successful at dating. The gamer guys aren't really any worse. The communities I'm part of generally treat women like anyone else, except for the occasional sexist joke, which makes me cringe. But there's probably less than 1% women in those communities. I'm sure a bunch of gaming spaces especially skewing younger like shooters are toxic shit holes though I'm not denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:16 PM
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This is pretty much how I feel. I took what people said about men and women being equal very serious growing up. I disliked how men would change their behavior anytime a woman they found attractive would be around. I wanted to treat women like I treat guy's and eventually just find someone I really get along with. Turn's out that's probably the worst dating strategy possible, despite women constantly proclaiming that they want to be treated the same. Men who go out of their way to chase women do…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:56 PM
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I think it's true that many men don't care for women as people, only as a pretty companion. But from my experience it's the guys who have standards for the woman's personality and want to be able to relate to them that struggle dating. There's a shitton of gamer guys who want nothing but a girl they could play stuff with. But there's just not enough of a supply. So having standards for women just makes dating for guys immensely harder, which is probably the reason why many men are just accepting…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:53 PM
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I love that we went from women need to all be submissive housewife's and men can be anything, to men having to try to all be the same archetype to be attractive while women have far more range of self expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:31 PM
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