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A "man" who thinks like this doesn't deserve respect. Men who rag on stay at home dads to make themselves feel more manly are pathetic losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:33 PM
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We're literally talking about biology and you're trying to change the subject to cultural because you just can't admit that men and women are different. You have less than half the life and relationship experience that I do. You don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:16 PM
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You are an exception or your husband is. On average, men want sex far more often than women do. Problem as old as time. Denying it is just an attempt to gaslight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:56 PM
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You're not. We have 12×-20× the amount of the hormone that makes you horny than you do. You're trying to claim you have men's biology AND that you're better at dealing with it than men because of your femaleness, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:30 PM
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Yep. At that short of a time, you would. Glad you're on a smooth track. Wouldn't advise taking your foot off the gas though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 03:06 AM
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How long you in comrade?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:37 AM
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Everything you did to get her is now the floor. What you thought was being on top of your game is now your default setting. You don't get breaks from the relationship like when you're dating. You have not even begun to be shit tested when you're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:17 AM
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Conservative men AND women are fighting against abortion rights. Choose your words carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:54 AM
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But you said we could take our foot off the gas?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:44 AM
1

This is incorrect. There's a reason Married Red Pill is considered RP on "hard mode".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:43 AM
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The 80-20 rule still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 01:39 AM
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Nobody said anything about preferring it. Stop putting words in people's mouths just to make your argument work. Try arguing the point I actually made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:54 PM
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You're calling gay men defective. You see that, right? You're calling himosexuals hateful. This is a hateful comment. Why do you think gay men hate women? Are you homophobic or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:45 PM
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No they wouldn't. You have to be attractive first. You are acting in bad faith when trying to make it as if the misogyny itself is the attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:41 PM
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People ought to stop telling RP men how to interpret RP. Each man takes what he needs from it. If some of it makes you feel uncomfortable just don't read it. Go tell women how to be women and see how well that goes over.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:36 PM
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It is avoiding accountability on behalf of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 12:40 AM
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Men noticing that women's words don't always match their actions is just an observation, it's not misogyny. Anyone who views it as such is just reacting emotionally to a truth that makes them feel bad, so they lash out and blame men instead of admitting that some women say one thing and do another. Classic dodge of accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 04:54 PM
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Yeah, I don't know about that one. At 300 you don't start looking in the mirror even a little bit? I'd say your rejecting skills are solid...as in that's the only play you know, but vetting? I don't think anyone is 100% at that. You definitely let some decent ones pass. But you're happy with that, so go you!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:53 AM
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Sure, sure. I'm completely convinced you can hide that side of you and it never comes out in relationships with men, lol. Good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:14 AM
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Lol. Doesn't sound like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:58 AM
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That's a strawman. Nobody asked you to. Howabout the millions of virgins who are good people? They deserve to get lumped in with him? They might not know who he even is and just see you belittling someone's virginity. Punch Nazis all you want FOR BEING NAZIS, not for a trait lots of good people also have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 08:32 PM
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You are using upvotes to justify your position, so yes, you are basing your opinion on them. So if there were hundreds of upvotes on a comment calling someone a racial slur, you would say "oh, this is a popular opinion that nobody should have a problem with."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 05:14 PM
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Nope. That would require admitting they have been shitty to men in the past. Hope I'm wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:23 PM
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Lol. Ask a woman who has taken testosterone how wrong you are. Why is it so hard to accept that men's biology is different from women's?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:15 PM
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Says the woman trying to justify saying hateful things about people who haven't had sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 04:10 PM
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Thumbs up, likes and upvotes on the internet are very very stupid things to base your own opinions on and are not real. Glad I could teach you something, but damn. Can't believe you needed that spelled out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:49 PM
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So because there's not a specific word for hating virgins it's ok to hate on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:47 PM
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Literally nobody is defending him, and your attempt to make it look that way means you are either being obtuse or manipulative. Make fun of him for being shitty, not for lack of having sex, because there's no way to make fun of him for being a virgin without you being an asshole to other virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:05 PM
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"It's as real as a thumbs up" Those aren't real either. Jfc, you have got to be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 03:01 PM
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Why don't you think making fun of virgins is problematic?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:34 PM
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Right, you're just being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:32 PM
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Then you shame them for the shitty things they do, not for their lack of a sex life. That way you don't insult lots of people you didn't mean to. But it sounds like you do mean to since you're being so obtuse that it's got to be intentional at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:31 PM
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Lol. As if you know how many people viewed it, but didn't up or down vote it? Face it, you're just not being objective. You are very determined to not decouple virginity from negative traits because you want to normalize making fun of people who haven't had sex yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:28 PM
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All you're doing is letting others know that you're a shitty person to them if they also happen to be virgins. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:25 PM
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This is the most terminally online comment I've seen on here. Are "upvotes" real to you or something? Do you live inside the pixels? We're so fucked if this is how young people think nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:22 PM
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"the ones who behaved well , will understand why and not complain about not getting kitty cat" She is saying your husband would be understanding if you stopped having sex with him to participate in 4b. I happen to be an attractive, good person, who's wife wouldn't want to punish herself by not sleeping with me. I was disagreeing with the woman above who said men "who behaved well" wouldn't complain. Why wouldn't they? Why punish someone who agrees with you just to make a political statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 10:30 PM
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How do you shame a public figure for being a virgin without insulting other people who are virgins? You can't. That's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 09:02 PM
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Is every single virgin an asshole on this guy's level? No. Sounds like you just want to normalize being an asshole to people who haven't had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 08:49 PM
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What do you mean "cases like this" when your disclaimer clearly says it's not just about this case? You're being disingenuous and playing both sides of the fence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:32 PM
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What a disgusting take. Why do you think it's ok to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:23 PM
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How did I not behave well? You have no idea what you're talking about and just assume I did something wrong because I'm a man who disagrees with you. So does my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:22 PM
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So it's men's fault no matter what they do. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:13 PM
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So why your other comment then? Do you also disagree with the comment I was responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:58 PM
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What a childish response. Best you could do, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:19 PM
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Lol! No we fucking won't! If my wife pulled this shit we'd be done. If her making some political virtue signal was more important to her than our physical intimacy, this Kamala voter would be getting divorced. Why do you think liberal men will accept this? You really think this shit overrides marriage vows?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 02:12 PM
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Which means you have no reason for it, but still choose to act like a harpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:29 PM
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Women: why are men so obsessed with sex? Also women: you're a terrible person because you don't get sex and you have a small penis
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 12:26 PM
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I think this election just proved you wrong. There are plenty of conservative women and they don't share your disdain for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:27 PM
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Maybe in another comment string, but not this one. 4b is just an angry reaction aimed at men that actually turns out to be a self own for women. I think the women perpetuating it want men to be angry about it, but in reality conservative men are laughing their asses off at liberal women over it and liberal men are wondering why liberal women are attacking them. This attitude towards men is giving Trumpers a legitimate reason to laugh at us while we lose and blame all the wrong things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 03:08 PM
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Women voted to take away the right to an abortion from other women. Sounds like some women are pissing everyone off, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:42 PM
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Because it's silly to base real world action on "up votes".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:25 PM
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Why would I post there? If this shit didn't work when Roe got overturned, it's not going to work now. Reacting to men who voted for Trump while not reacting to women who voted for Trump is stupid, sexist and the opposite of helpful to your cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 02:11 PM
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Maybe you wouldn't mind if they stopped then. So fucking ungrateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:32 PM
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"Up votes" are "taking hold"? Lol. Do you hear yourself? Pumpkin spice lattes have lots of up votes too. They'll realize how stupid it all sounds when they figure out that conservative women aren't joining and they're actually punishing the men that voted the way women wanted them to. Total lose lose situation created by liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 12:29 PM
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I get the religious angle, but hispanic women voted more for Harris than Trump by a big margin, so I think you're overreaching a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:03 PM
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You are. 4b is aimed at them. "Old males in government" , "silence is violence".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:57 PM
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They did. I'm not sure that there are actually more of them, but more of them certainly showed up for this election.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:37 PM
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Yes. So it doesn't really move the needle on the status quo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:14 PM
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Then what are you doing here bashing men for? It's not enough to be progressive yourself. You need to apply pressure to the other females you know. Silence is violence. Go give those women hell!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 02:11 PM
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Some men have risked their lives to bring that care to women just like women have. Stop trying to turn a political divide into a gender divide. That's how liberals lose. Why do you think there are no liberal men and no conservative women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:53 PM
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Some men have risked their lives to bring that care to women just like women have. Stop trying to turn a political divide into a gender divide. That's how liberals lose. Why do you think there are no liberal men and no conservative women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:53 PM
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I don't think people need "influencers" to tell them who to vote for. Taylor Swift is more popular than him, why isn't this her fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:22 PM
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So you're not a 9/10 then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 03:06 PM
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Nobody calling them social rejects has actually tried with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 02:50 PM
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It has to work for somebody or men wouldn't keep doing it. Remember, you only hear online from the least successful RPers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:50 PM
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But the obese women think they're qualified for above average men just for being. An overweight guy knows he has to have something to make up for being overweight (money, charisma, funny, social, lifestyle etc.), but the overweight woman shows up stating that she is the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:41 PM
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No, I think we can blame ourselves. I think blaming Tate is lazy and won't teach us anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 01:23 PM
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It makes sense because that's who women think they are "teaching a lesson" with stuff like 4b. I don't think anyone's 'obsessed' with it, there's just tons of posts about it everywhere online, so it's a topic a lot of people are reacting to. I doubt most people (myself included) knew what 4b was 7 days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:27 PM
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This also shows up for career women who care a lot about their appearance for their employer and career but not for their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 06:27 PM
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Offer. Our own. Our own. Our own. Our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:43 PM
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"Men have historically treated women like shit and now wonder why they're being attacked back." Your words. You're making men of today pay the price for men in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 03:16 PM
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"Support the men who were with you when it counted." This part isn't happening. Men are just being blamed in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 02:29 AM
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You are comparing them by bringing them into the conversation in bad faith. Because you got called out for an indefensible position you put yourself in by creating this rage bait post in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 12:48 AM
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I was speaking generally. It's not the first time you've told this sub that sucking dick isn't your job while being an asshole to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:55 PM
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I don't know which is higher for them, the need to absolve other women or the need to blame men. I didn't realize until this election that it would even hold firm across the political divide. This is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:06 PM
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This is just more blaming men for something both men and women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:01 PM
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I think the shift was already baked in there. Low turnout just let us see more of the iceberg during this election. The only demographic that shifted significantly was Latino men. I would also bet that first time male voters went hard for Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:51 PM
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There's that word: intimidated. No. Men are not iNtImIdAtEd by you. We are annoyed by you. It's just that your ego won't allow you to see the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:33 PM
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You can't be seriously comparing the reasons for the laws saying you can't marry a child or a goat with YOUR reasons why adult men can't marry adult women from other countries. You're off your rocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:50 PM
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Do you think those are relevant? They're not. You know it. Those are just edgy things you're throwing at the wall to make your outlandish shit look more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:28 PM
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So male competition for females is a good thing, but when females have to compete it's bad? Very authoritarian of you to try to tell people who they can't marry. Why do you hate freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:10 PM
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Funny how "don't be such an asshole to men" gets dismissed as "suck dicks". Shows how committed to being an asdhole to men you are, and shows where you think your value is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:38 PM
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Just gender reverse it since you're so up women's asses that you can't see it. Blaming this on misogyny is a lazy way to not learn anything from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:35 PM
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How is that not disrespectful and belittling to men? I voted for both women, but to say people in the middle didn't vote for her because of misogyny is burying your head in the sand. And it's bullshit to blame Trump's win on men and mysogyny when 44% of women voted for him too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 03:04 PM
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She ran an ad with a black guy in one of those dating games and the women rejected him because he didn't "have a plan to vote", the implication being liberal men won't get laid if we don't get out and support women with our vote. I don't know what else, I didn't watch her campaign that closely. But the post election analysis is TERRIBLE. I'm not saying it's her campaign saying this, but all you hear is that it's due to 'misogyny' and that is just going to make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:22 PM
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That's 1 for 1. That's a lot different than the 100 to 5 you just proposed. We men should be treated as we are now. Not how some other men were some other time. We owe for our own actions only.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 02:24 AM
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Lot of women on ppd today refusing to acknowledge that so they can go on blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 11:41 PM
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Liberal women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:58 PM
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At some point you have to stop applying what happened to dead people to what is going on today. You can't blame the men in front of you today for the sins of their fathers. You can't always claim misandry can only ever be a reaction to misogyny. That's the women are wonderful effect and pedestalization of women, which takes away their agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:51 PM
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Correct! This is one of many examples of issues between men and women where women don't want to understand that with freedoms comes responsibility. Voting rights came with the responsibility to defend the country. Women ignore this responsibility aspect in history when they claim to have been so oppressed by men because men had authority. They forgot that if a man's wife or kid committed a crime, the man was responsible and punished for that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:29 PM
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Spoken like a true prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:08 PM
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Ok, you're just a misandrist. Have a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:00 PM
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I'm a liberal. You're delusional. Do you realize the Harris campaign ran ads telling black men they wouldn't get dates if they didn't have a plan to vote? You literally already tried this trick. And your comment below, being all gleeful about men having blue balls is disgusting and says more about you than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:55 PM
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So drive away all the undecideds and independents. Thanks soo much for your "help". You assume everyone that voted for Trump prioritized the issues in the same order you did. That's not how this works. For some of his voters, abortion was not even on the list. Step out of your solipsism and try to imagine being a first time male voter walking up to each party. As you approach the Democratic party, all you hear is "men suck, men are the problem, we don't listen to their problems because they're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:41 PM
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So you don't "blame" men, you just hold them more accountable than the women who did the same thing. And you're trying to back the goalposts up to make it sound like you're the one reacting, when it's been "cool" to blame white men for anything and everything for a long time now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:31 PM
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Any and every one that is brought up. From mental health, SA, suicide, falling behind in education, loneliness epidemic, false accusations, court outcomes...anything. Right now. Blaming the results on men. The whole campaign we heard about how Tim Walz's type of masculinity is the "right" kind and everything else is toxic masculinity. Wasn't there even an ad about not banging your man if he doesn't vote for Harris?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:07 PM
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Well, by blaming men for everything, you are letting those women off the hook while simultaneously alienating existing liberal men and future liberal men. Thanks for doing your part in making it so easy for Republicans. Fewer women turned out for Kamala than for Joe last time. Maybe liberal women weren't motivated enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:56 PM
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Yeah, no shit. And liberal women don't seem interested in understanding why.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:51 PM
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Women are wonderful effect. Pedestalization. Girls are never mean unless a boy started it. Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:43 PM
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More women voted for Trump this time than last time. You can't blame men for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:19 PM
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You don't know men campaign for reproductive rights? Do you know male doctors have been killed for performing abortions? Do you think 100% of all grants and scholarships awarded for being female comes exclusively from women? Who funds the WNBA? You don't think any dads and husbands out there care enough about their wives and daughters to support women? Ever watch men's sports and notice all the female cancer fund raising?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:05 PM
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Stop making assumptions, it makes you look stupid. I voted for Harris. I'm not blaming women for how I voted. I'm blaming liberal women and the Democratic party for alienating liberal and centrist men from our side. "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:49 PM
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Here's the thing that sucks so much: They didn't have to do shit to get those voters. The thing that made them more attractive was they were not the party that's saying men suck and men are responsible for everything that sucks. They didn't have to have solutions to men's problems. All they had to do was not shout men down when men brought up their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:43 PM
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Sure, just bury your head in the sand. How women and the party treat men can never be a problem if you just accuse those that bring it up of being on the other side. Republicans would pay you to recruit for Democrats with that method.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:28 PM
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"Men have no desire to help women? Most men like women suffering?" You walk around thinking most men are literally psychopaths, but you will rub shoulders with the 44% of women who voted for Trump without fearing them as psychos too? You are also downplaying the men who did try to help with their votes. You are helping those you oppose by taking a political divide and making it a gender divide, further fracturing our own party. Damn, this is getting exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:24 PM
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Not sure what the relevance is there other than you venting, but ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:00 PM
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I'm starting to think conservative women treat men better than liberal women. At least conservative women aren't bashing the men on their own side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:58 PM
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Personal attack on my ability with women? Fuck you and your inability to debate. WOMEN voted for the same things you just said too. So stop trying to exclusively blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:51 PM
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38 year old child.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:48 PM
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Liberal man here. You're fucking up by bashing men as a group, which includes those who voted for Harris.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:42 PM
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Don't forget 44% of women voted for Trump. Abortion won on 3/4 ballots it was on. Stop blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:38 PM
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Women have no idea how safe men have made the world for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:19 PM
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That's the whole problem. They are the ones turning a political divide into a gender divide.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:18 PM
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Women are allergic to accountability. No one forced them to vote the rapist into power. They chose it. Because they wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 09:12 PM
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I voted for Harris. I was not driven away. I'm trying to tell you not too be the asshole that drives people away. But you wouldn't listen and now it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:20 PM
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Well, don't forget how many women voted for him while you're blaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:51 PM
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That right there is the bullshit that drives men away. Sorry, but we probably won't win again until women DO figure out how to separate that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:44 PM
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Speaking as a white, male Democratic voter, we really need to stop the bullshit with thinking it's ok to blame everything on white men for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 04:24 PM
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Hyperbole. You know you can read everything in the RP without watching Fresh & Fit, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:25 PM
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Murdering your business competitors has nothing to do with TRP either, but "If one chooses to use TRP to that end, it's entirely possible." See, we can make up ANYTHING we want and say it next to the words TRP and it still doesn't make it part of TRP. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:20 PM
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Calling self improvement monkey branching is a pretty slippery slope. And defending monkey branching is a brain dead take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 12:11 PM
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The fuckboi doesn't let women define what success is for him, like you're trying to do for men here. He's onto the next one. Proving your last sentence incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:38 PM
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Which has nothing to do with how women judge men for being attracted to younger women. You're just trying to change the subject (and brag) because you just contradicted yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:28 PM
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Sure they do. If men like younger women, women shame those men. And you don't speak for all women, so go convince them to stop liking being approached instead of being their nanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:10 PM
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Then stop telling men WHICH women to like and let it sort itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:53 PM
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You've completely misunderstood the difference between being sensitive and being perceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:55 PM
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Previous generations of women could cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 03:12 PM
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What if the actions are hard, take time and you never hear from those guys again? You say it doesn't work just because you don't like how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:43 PM
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You got cause and effect backwards on this one, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:40 PM
7

Now gaslight the women!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:25 PM
5

There's a difference between high standards and unrealistic standards that women are just going to have to find out. I don't think unrealistic standards have a positive effect on men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 04:10 PM
1

Single dads are already single dads that didn't wear a condom. You make zero sense. Talking in circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:34 PM
1

Troll becomes more obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:31 PM
0

You would like doing that. From a mental stability perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:30 PM
1

OF ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:28 PM
8

Nothing you said here can't be said about women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:56 PM
2

Then why don't you give this same advice to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 04:41 PM
17

Shorter version: Women must be. Men must become. Very RP of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:00 PM
1

I figure most girls showing their ass in their profile pic are unemployed and probably just here to advertise their OF.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 11:39 AM
1

I don't know how I posted my comment in the wrong place. Didn't intend that directed at you. It's the OP of "Men don't love harder".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:39 PM
0

You are not feminine. You are an unemployed boss babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:38 AM
1

Oh, she's married? Totally thought the ass pic in her profile was an OF ad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:35 AM
0

Says a woman who won't pay for a man. Hypocrite!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 11:28 AM
2

It's "the people" that make a baby, not just him. Why is she having a baby she can't afford? Always one sided with this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 07:30 PM
0

You're using "it was the other way around for years" to justify a disparity in favor of females now and going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:41 PM
0

You're advocating for revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:20 PM
8

It's not balanced. You know that. Keep using that excuse and see how things go.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:11 PM
-1

So that's what she should have done. Be strong and independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:00 PM
12

And yet we have more female grants and scholarships on top of that bias. It's become common knowledge now that boys are falling behind girls in school. If it were the other way around, it would be a crisis that everyone has to fix. But instead of wanting to help boys, women search for ways to blame the boys themselves and men in general for the position they're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:51 PM
1

So descriptive! That's surely a sign of good mental health!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:10 PM
2

In other words, women are incapable of being the problem in a marriage. They just never make mistakes. Always the man's fault, even in hypothetical situations. Delulu.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:39 PM
4

Well, maybe they should stop that, they are being dicks to people that agree with them. Women on PPD don't seem to mind lumping the men that agree with them on issues in with men who murder and rape, so maybe that's why they can't find any "good" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:34 AM
1

Isn't any child he creates 50% his responsibility, not 100%? Where is the responsibility for the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:27 AM
0

She also had more information about her fertility and likelihood of pregnancy than him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:52 PM
3

So you're advocating for open baby trapping. And being classist to boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 07:34 PM
1

So he has to restrain himself, but she is free to be unrestrained? Sounds like you want to give all authority and no responsibility to the women, while men get all the responsibility with none of the authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:41 PM
6

Why was she so irresponsible to get pregnant if she can't afford the kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:39 PM
8

He can make this choice before it's a baby. Just like women can choose before the fetus becomes a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:58 PM
2

It's labeled on the A side, meaning Acquired. If OP was saying it can't be changed, it would have been I for Innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:36 PM
21

His money, his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:19 PM
11

Which has nothing to do with blaming men for something conservatives and religious people of both genders are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:20 PM
6

There are also women trying to control women’s bodies, and they are doing it with abortion bans. You can easily look up which legislators are introducing and voting for these draconian laws, and who is opposing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:17 PM
1

Dude mother's fixation on their daughters’ hymen is universally well known and disgusting and disturbing by every measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:22 AM
1

Don't forget to thank pervy moms for protecting their sons from good sex and good orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:20 AM
1

Women like you are fucking grotesque with their sexualization of daughters. It's like your ferish porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:11 AM
0

"Earning" her submission wouldn't be very dominant. Submission is not earned, it is given.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 09:57 PM
3

Have they tried working on their personality? Maybe get some more interesting hobbies? Work on their social skills and learn to approach? If they haven't done these, then they are just being entitled. Nobody owes them dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:01 PM
7

She makes him wait because he's "boyfriend material".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:20 AM
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As if breaking long term commitment is the equivalent to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:49 PM
1

Sounds like a much better deal then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:31 PM
0

But if they don't want sex as much as their man, that's unbalanced. Why should he accept that? Sounds like she wants the benefits of monogamy without the responsibility of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 04:12 PM
-2

This is such a piece of shit comment. PPD women seem to have no problem making personal, unsubstantiated attacks when they can't make a point like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:37 PM
1

It is one part of that argument. You are changing the subject because you know there is only one right answer. And your reason is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:31 PM
0

Is it hatred to say women initiate more divorces?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:02 PM
2

Confirmed that you are intentionally calling criticism of behavior hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:57 PM
6

Not bashing women. Pointing out a behavior is not hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:55 PM
2

I raise my kid. Don't be a dick. Anxiety is not a biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:54 PM
8

A) They're probably decent looking B) They probably had to calibrate and learn how to do good pics, figure out texting and all that stuff C) You're literally saying success for them is a drip, while women can turn a faucet on and off on a whim D) Yeah, location can be a big factor, especially in the now globalized dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:39 PM
22

Men would like to feel special too. They're just doing what actually works as opposed to what they wished worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:34 PM
1

You gave yourself some good advice in that comment. You should take it. All your posts are the same. You have made "why won't men talk as shitty about themselves as I do" your whole personality on here. That's why you get the same results every time. Your posts could use a little more self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:28 PM
0

You're conflating criticism with hate. I'm guessing it's on purpose at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:12 PM
2

Outlier. Sure. And women Al Pacino's age physically can't have kids anymore. I'm sorry you used such a bad example to try and prove men also have women's biology, but that didn't work. What you described is men feeling social pressure, not a biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:10 PM
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Is saying women initiate divorce more than men "bashing" them? It's just a fact. Who said OP owes women "a kindness" in order to have a discussion? Your response is an emotional one that doesn't refute anything OP or I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:06 PM
9

They literally wouldn't be. You are using your lense and still thinking about your best outcomes not theirs. What makes you think those guys didn't already try your strategy before arriving at theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:52 PM
3

So women lie when taking their vows? Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:45 PM
2

You're trying soooo hard to turn this into "hate".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:43 PM
5

Ppd women can't read anything that show the slightest imperfection in women without calling it "hate". Being frustrated at trying to understand women is not hating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:35 PM
-2

So why don't more women remove that obstacle in heterosexual relationships? We hear all the time how they don't want sex as much as men anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:30 PM
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Yeah, but you're only looking at it through your own lense. YOU might do better if guys were pickier, but THEY wouldn't, despite you trying to gaslight them into thinking so. Do your own approaching, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:24 PM
27

This post is a chicken and an egg pointing at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:14 PM
8

That's not how AFBB works. Hypergamy is about two phases. Distinguishing between wife material and recreational women is about vetting women, not about our biological clock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:43 AM
1

I feel bad for those vulnerable guys. I knew you would focus on and only respond to that part of what I said. How did I know? Because you have said that same thing hundreds of times across this sub. To the point that it's become a one sided propaganda campaign with you. And every single time, you can't acknowledge the other side of the coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 10:16 PM
1

Lol, always there with an excuse. It doesn't matter enough to her or you. We get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:43 PM
1

Yeah, nobody ever cares if the guy gets what he wants. It's like it doesn't even occur to women to think about what a man might want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:12 PM
3

So they can satisfy both sides of hypergamy. First excitement and attraction, then comfort and resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 09:05 PM
-1

If you're a woman: approach more. If you're a man: approach more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:59 PM
0

That's because you met a person with an ex boyfriend that was vulnerable. Maybe he did it too much, or maybe he did it once and she got the "ick". Either way, she's not going to make herself look bad by being honest if it was the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:46 PM
2

Nah. This just shows that women see their resources as their own and men's resources as shared. Equality is a one way street to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 08:41 PM
2

Lol. That's delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 06:55 PM
2

So women view having as much sex as their man wants to a "sacrifice"? Wow. Why shouldn't he just have sex with someone else when she doesn't want to and both keep their stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:46 PM
5

Why not just have sex when you want sex and get your own stuff? Seems more like women are the entitled ones since they don't view sex for sex as an equal exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 05:03 PM
3

So you have to get something besides sex to have sex? Sounds like prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:12 PM
0

You have a horribly warped view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:09 PM
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Women have not learned to control their sex drive any more that men. They just have 12-20x less testosterone, so there's nothing to suppress.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 02:02 PM
2

Sex workers think differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:49 AM
1

If they are in a relationship, they are not NPCs. Men who have feelings doesn't mean they have low opinions of women. That's a shitty thing to correlate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:29 AM
0

Tell that to women, who name that first when asked what they bring to the table. And she never says "I can pay for stuff for us" she says "I got my OWN money."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:25 AM
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If we all communicate the same, then why do women care about men's locker room talk? Why are women said to be better at nonverbal communication? Why do women tell men their message is ok, but they need to change the tone when talking to women? Why do women get more negative feedback in the workplace when they're more direct and blunt like men are known to be? Because we communicate the same? I think we've tried so hard to homogenize men and women that we've lost track of the differences, and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 01:21 AM
7

No. Lots of guys can't get past the filters to get to the dancing stage anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 08:27 PM
1

Good arguments for why women should approach more too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:36 PM
8

No they don't. You are trying to tell men what to value and how to value it. You're only calling these guys the "good" guys because they accept a shitty deal and call it a "win". If he was really so "good", why didn't she go for him in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 07:26 PM
8

This comment is giving misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:17 PM
15

Notice how every guy she hooks up with before settling is automatically a "douchebag" yet she is not called a douchebag for her hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 06:13 PM
3

Sounds like SHE is scared, lazy, uninterested AND entitled. She wants the guy that SHE WANTS to approach her. Yet, if he doesn't, she calls him these things, but they somehow don't apply to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:57 PM
-2

Men don't think this way, women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:10 PM
2

Ad hominem noted. My wife would disagree with you stud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:06 PM
2

Sure it does. I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:50 PM
2

And you're obsessed with RP men. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:46 PM
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Who cares why they don't? They're not going to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:37 PM
-1

Yes they do. Couldn't get several women (and a man) on here the other day to admit that before no fault divorce MOST husbands weren't abusive. They literally refused to say, even with nothing but anecdotes and their hyped up fear of men to back them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:35 PM
7

In other words: Dance Monkey!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 02:30 PM
2

I don't think men judge women for going to therapy the way women do to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:57 AM
2

Men just have to live with being side eyed for everything, even things women say are positive, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 01:20 AM
0

No, not all vaginas are the same size:    Length A 1996 study found that the length of a vagina can range from 2.7 to 5.8 in (6.9 to 14.8 cm). A 2006 study found that the average length of the vaginal canal is around 2.5 in (62.7 mm), but can range from 1.5 to 3.7 in (40.8 to 95 mm).   Width A 1996 study found that the width of a vagina can range from 1.9 to 2.5 in (4.8 to 6.3 cm).  Introital diameter A 1996 study found that the introital diameter of a vagina can range from 0.94 to 2.56 in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 12:40 AM
2

No, you seem to think this ONLY happens to snot nosed whiny man babies. OR you just think that describes the majority of men. This happens to men who are vulnerable with women ONE FUCKING TIME! But men here can't talk about the one time they were vulnerable and she later used it against him in a fight, or immediately got "the ick" (the fucking maturity if women!) without you coming in to ignore their problem and blame them for it instead of just admitting that women are turned off by vulnerabili…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:57 AM
-1

You'll be cutting yourself off then. I take people as individuals. College has a paywall. Learning is a lifelong pursuit for intelligent people. I've met enough dumbasses that graduated college to not make this mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:35 PM
5

While there is proximity, women can marry up (class / income) within that proximity while men really can't (women won't accept it). This is a recipe for class mobility for me (women) but none for thee (men) unless something changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:21 PM
1

That's part of it. Being able to psychically figure out a woman's mood and anticipating when she'll change her mind fall under social skills too. That's why men have such a hard time developing "social skills".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:13 PM
-2

What? The father is automatically the fault of the father being a bad person? As if it's IMPOSSIBLE that she could have had any impact on the situation? Howbout if she cheated on him or hid an OF account? Female solipsism is fucking rampant in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 05:29 PM
-2

Yet you were perfectly happy to say: "I think male sex toys are weird because the sex toy is bigger and men can kind of achieve the same result with their hands no? while a woman can't replace the sensation of a penis with fingers, so it kind of makes more sense" Sounds like shaming / judging men while justifying it for women doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 05:21 PM
5

So going to a strip club is cheating? What if you went to a bachelor party, didn't know there would be a stripper. Do you have to leave before just one tit is out, or is it not cheating until both are on display?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:47 PM
7

With this logic, why isn't reading romance novels cheating? Is it still cheating to watch porn if you don't masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:33 PM
2

This still reeks of you doing him a favor by being with him, when you don't even know if he will forgive you yet. You are all ego and no self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:29 PM
2

Your mentality is warped. You're not "standing by him", you're desperately grasping for something that you think will make up for being disrespectful, mean and cheating on him multiple times, including with a sugar daddy. And you haven't even told him yet. You're not "standing by" him, you're hiding and trying to make up for things you have done. He saved you and you have shit on him in front of and behind his back. If you actually loved him, you'd realize he deserves better. If he forgives you …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:26 PM
7

According to some of your other posts, you're a problem that needs to work on herself before being in a relationship with anybody. At all. Stop being mean and talking to sugar daddies and go get therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 03:03 PM
2

Nope. It might work for a little bit. But eventually he's going to realize the discrepancy between the things you did for him before and after the cheating. Then he will realize he's getting these things because of your guilt, not because of your desire for HIM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:39 PM
6

2 reveals some really gross thinking on your part. This is the type of stuff men are talking about when we say women's egos are on steroids. You're essentially saying a woman's time is valuable (in the context of a relationship) because prostitutes exist and get paid for their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:30 PM
3

No, I was saying it's disingenuous to bring that up as if it's an equal thing, given that most women don't have an interest in doing it, so it's not really equal. I'm cool with men and women watching porn. What I am not cool with is the disinterested party using it to shame or control the person in the relationship that views it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:19 PM
1

Never said that. I have no problem with women watching porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 12:31 PM
-2

Frequency. Your attempt to shame men sexually is noted, but the difference you don't seem to notice is that having 12-20x your testosterone makes us want it way more than you are interested in doing your part for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:46 AM
-3

Women have an easier time getting casual sex, combined with a lower libido on average than men, so you're asking if men would be ok with something women don't want to actually do. Not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:28 AM
0

I've never heard a man say porn is cheating. Just something women use to control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:24 AM
1

Maybe there would be more stay at home dads if women and society respected and supported stay at home dads the way they do for moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:19 AM
1

Do you think MOST husbands abused their wives. Think about the implications of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:33 PM
2

What if I told you it happens to men enough in our lives that we have determined it is not worth the risk since we don't have a way of knowing which women get which "icks" in any given situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:20 PM
0

Do you think women made all their advances without the help of any men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 09:12 PM
8

You literally described hypergamy in your post and still wrote that title. The notion that women prefer to be with one man is not "advice" from RP, it is just another way of saying sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive and she needs the guy (during our evolutionary history ladies, we know "you don't need us" nowadays) to stick around while she's pregnant and vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:45 PM
3

Yup. Always using that gish gallup to keep changing the subject so they can try and stay on offense. They don't even try to relate to the topic at hand. Changing your words around so their angry response has the appearance of relevance. That's why RP says don't argue with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:14 PM
2

The misandrists in here give real women a bad reputation. You can tell they're unhinged with all the overly vitriolic, descriptive language they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 04:06 PM
1

To you, this is a theory. To men, this is our lived experience. It sounds like you just want men to have to sit there and accept shitty behavior from women with no complaint. It's like you want to beat the feelings out of men so you don't have to deal with them. Like women have a monopoly on emotions or something. Calling men thin skinned for having the audacity to make a peep about their feelings is a literal illustration of why men say don't be vulnerable with women. Two people having a differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:59 PM
-2

I don't think your first two sentences are true anymore in the digital age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:54 PM
-1

So to compare heterosexual women choosing sex work over other types of work, we have to compare them to drug addicts who turn themselves into homosexual prostitutes? That's too much of a stretch to make an apt comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 01:43 PM
19

There's nothing there that's in good faith, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:08 PM
1

Maybe their husbands weren't rich or ambitious enough. Maybe they thought they could get a better looking guy. Maybe they were closeted lesbians. Maybe they hated their husband's family. Maybe they thought now they could chase their dream of making it in Hollywood. Maybe they hated where they lived. Maybe they hated being a mother. Maybe they had FOMO on the biggest societal change for women in a long time. Maybe some of them regretted their decisions later. There are too many different circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:04 PM
1

If you're saying good guys would be assholes if they just had the opportunity, then you're treating them the same and not filtering out the actual assholes. The asshole is being judged for what he does. The good guy is also being judged for what the asshole does. Do you see my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:44 PM
44

Men notice that women's actions don't match their words. Men blamed. Women most affected. Just say you don't want to be held accountable for the things you say and do. The honesty would be refreshing and less tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 07:00 PM
8

Those are all evidence of societal change. None of those are evidence of abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:22 PM
-2

You're right, you never said 100%. Ok, then we'll go with the OP's stats and you only have to prove that. So prove women were abused 9 out of 10 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:18 PM
5

So you don't have proof and you're asking men to disprove something there is no proof of. Debating in bad faith. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:16 PM
2

Prove "most women" were abused or you're just asking men to disprove something you haven't proved in the first place. That's not how debate works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:07 PM
0

First you prove how divorce 100% = abuse. Women still to this day initiate divorce more often than men and for a litany of reasons. On one end of that spectrum is things like abuse. The other end is Eat Pray Love & because they're bored, & think the grass is greener. And there are a million reasons between those. Go ahead and prove "most" women were abused and then we can debate it. Until then, OP is asking men to disprove something she has provided no proof for. It's like a Christian telling an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:05 PM
11

You're showing up with a beer ad and asking us to debate something you have given no proof of. YOU post something you think proves "most women" were abused and unhappy before asking us to debate something you have given no proof of yourself. Low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:48 PM
3

So if men just don't say these things out loud, you really can't tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:53 PM
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Sure. But I'm sure there's more to it than that oversimplification. You've only eliminated men who say certain things out loud. How do you think of all men like this, but not lump in good men with the "nice guys"? So is every guy who doesn't "blame women for their lack of success" (somewhere that you can hear it) a good man or are there more "nice guys" that still might be in that group, and how can we separate them without judging the good men the same as the "nice guys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:49 PM
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With this thinking, how do you prevent yourself from lumping in actual good men with the "nice guys"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:31 PM
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Pure misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:27 PM
1

RP was never intended to "fight the system" it just opened eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:16 AM
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You misunderstand RP. It is just information. The goal is to have a better time with women, not fix the world. You guys build up RP like it's the equal and opposite to feminism or something so you can make a boogeyman out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:14 AM
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You misunderstand RP. It is just information. The goal is to have a better time with women, not fix the world. You guys build up RP like it's the equal and opposite to feminism or something so you can make a boogeyman out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:14 AM
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The wall = no longer at your peak, not no longer attractive to any men anywhere. You are definitely taking it to the extreme to try and shame men for being attracted to younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:36 PM
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How is this even framed as a debate? 100% bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 05:12 PM
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Stop comparing RP to misandry. Misogyny is equal to misandry. RP want to fuck women, they don't hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:54 PM
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And you talk about men being shallow, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:36 PM
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Nature fucked you, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:35 PM
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Petty, small, vindictive comment. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:24 PM
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You're purposely conflating "only attracted to" with "also attracted to" in order to make your attempt at shaming men. You know you have a weak argument when you have to purposely misunderstand a point to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 01:07 PM
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I'm not the one dictating who someone can date. You are. You're way too tied into this age thing to have a conversation with. Sorry that reality disagrees with what you think should happen. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:56 PM
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Christianity has more flavors than Baskin Robbins. The Bible is male centric. The church is whatever it needs to be for the times. That said, I'd agree that their politics seem male centric, but they have definitely been leaning into messaging that men need to "be better" for women just like feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:49 PM
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Yeah, Kim Kardashian is popular, but no one is asking feminists to answer for everything SHE says and does. If you think some Podcaster and Youtubers are "destroying the reputation of all men" you are too fragile to be on the internet. Touch grass, but try not to hurt yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:42 PM
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It's true. Whenever men bring up the fact that men also helped with women's liberation and other women rights issues they are lambasted. Women did everything by themselves and fought the patriarchy with one hand tied behind their back!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:35 PM
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You don't get to dictate that, lol. Jesus. Control freak. There are so few fit, good looking guys in their 40s that they are rare. Good looking fit women in their 20s want to get with those guys. His match is any legal age he wants to go for that likes him back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:21 PM
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Not all men in their 40s are the same. A good looking fit guy in his 40s is miles ahead of a fat 22 year old who doesn't excersise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:17 PM
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Men shouldn't give older, average women a chance when they achieve success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:13 PM
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It is. That's why it's full of women looking for a man. And why the man in the pulpit bleats on about men and their responsibilities. And why less men go now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:10 PM
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Age match is not looks match or SMV match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:00 PM
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Wow. Men must personally take responsibility for JD Vance's opinions now. As if we all think like him. As if all men are responsible for SA and DV. Do you even hear yourself making it impossible for good men to ever be seen as good? You are so misandrist it has blinded you to your own bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:22 PM
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As soon as you put RP, "nice guys", and incels in the same category I stopped reading. You are being disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:52 PM
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Nope. You don't even see the men that show examples to the contrary. They are everywhere. You wouldn't even consider them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:01 PM
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It's hard to take someone seriously who prattles on about "men's movements" then describes the manosphere. You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 01:44 PM
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Sure, have your reasons. Doesn't change or affect what I said. You just wanted to reply women good, men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:12 PM
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That's because of the way stay at home dads are looked at by women and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:40 PM
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Maybe. Key word being couples. Women don't seem to feel the same as men about being providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:36 PM
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You could have fixed it with fewer words.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:04 PM
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This is open misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:02 PM
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Watch what they do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:01 PM
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Both are also not their first marriages. They were both married to more famous people before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:37 PM
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It's telling how many women have been "disappointed" etc, in her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:33 PM
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Because those are the hot guys their age and older. There are also very few of those. So they shame those guys too, because they know they are at a disadvantage competing for those guys against younger women. Always shame the men though. I think if they shamed the younger women for it, they would get backlash that they just don't when shaming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 03:02 PM
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Blah blah patriarchy blah blah. I should have said "feel" needed. A woman can make a man feel both wanted and needed if she wants to. Women just don't want to anymore. Nothing to do with "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:35 PM
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Because there's more of them than there are wealthy guys. They want them for themselves. Since they can't compete as well, they use shame to tell those guys they're bad if they go for the younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 02:02 PM
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I have been. Wife likes it. Get lots of looks from other women too. Good for your physicals and your mentals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:46 PM
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None of which are good arguments for not going to the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:39 PM
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Men like to be needed. Even regular women "don't need a man", so with her it will be even worse. Powerful women act like men. Men like femininity. Plus, as others have said, she's not really interested in a regular guy, so even if he were interested, it wouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:28 PM
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Nobody thinks it's magical except you. You don't know that the gym is the ONLY thing they're doing to try and improve their looks. The gym is usually one of several ideas given out as advice. If it were magical, people would advise just going to the gym and nothing else. Nobody says going to the gym will make you attractive if you aren't. Just more attractive than you are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 01:12 PM
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You don't think a lot of married guys are desperate for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:43 PM
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Good for you. I guess that grants you the authority to tell other women what they can and can't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:54 PM
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So you think you're more important than a waitress. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:46 PM
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This is why men can't take dating advice from women. For some women, this would have made their day. Women who think like you should just do their own approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:43 PM
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I don't doubt they charge it. My doubt lies in the value.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:22 PM
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I debated your original comment. The rest has been you trying to convince me that I'm emotional. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:18 PM
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That was in response to you telling me how I'm allowed to feel. But go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:50 PM
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Women: Men should be more vulnerable and expressive. Men should be better friends with men. Women are so much better at friendship and intimacy. Men try those things. Women: Homo-Erotic! Gay! (But also we don't judge or shame. Gays are cool, but straight guys who aren't hot enough or conform to what we want them to be are gay. Yes we're using gay as a shaming word now, because we're sooo non-judgmental)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:24 PM
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I'm already married, but thanks for clarifying my life for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 03:09 PM
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Well men and women are "equal" and you felt the need to mention that men don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:48 PM
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Nope. I can feel how I want without any constraints placed by you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:47 PM
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Sounds like a bad deal. Maybe I should focus more on getting what I want and getting out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:46 PM
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Women don't "provide" houses either. Yes, women work now. Equality. Women broke all the traditional things so they could do all the things men do. Then they expect men to remain traditional while the men get none of the things they used to. Women want it both ways and for the most part they have gotten it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 02:03 PM
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Is that supposed to be a gotcha? You're right, because an asexual woman isn't interested in men either. The concept of men not getting unconditional love is about an already existing relationship, not about dating categories being incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:48 PM
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"Unconditional love is for dogs" Unconditional love is for everyone but men, apparently. Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:37 PM
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"Worth" 50-100k? What the simp is that? No sex is worth that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 01:34 PM
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Did you calculate for opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:24 PM
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Tall men are more likely to be psychos? What the hell?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:08 PM
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The difference being society only pressures one of these to be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 04:03 PM
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Your attempt at shaming her is pathetic and petty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:31 PM
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Do women have to disclose THEIR sex toys publicly too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:07 PM
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And IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! I bet you believe "her body her choice" and still can't see how this makes you the fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 01:06 PM
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Dildos first.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:57 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:38 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:36 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:29 PM
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Your first paragraph sucks, but I agree with the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:26 AM
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Right. Women's issues are society's issues. Poc issues are society's issues. Who you fuck is a societal issue. But men need to solve their own problems. Especially the YouTubers. Why can't male influencers solve this....said no one that was taken seriously ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:24 AM
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Right. So why do you treat them the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:19 AM
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Right. But you insist on lumping liberal men with them when you refuse to distinguish between the two. No wonder there are so few of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 07:16 PM
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Sure it does. Think harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:55 PM
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Then say "Trumpers" or whatever instead of lumping all men together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:45 PM
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Liberal man here. This is not the gotcha you think it is. We already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:34 PM
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I know what she meant. I also know that you just switched from no flair to Red Pill Man and started commenting against people's comments who appear to be RP or have RP flair. You also respond with inflammatory comments directed towards the individuals in these cases. You do not debate in good faith. I won't take the bait or engage with you other than to expose your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 06:11 PM
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Even your sample includes women who took shortcuts. Getting nip / tucked is not the same effort as the work it would have taken to do naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:49 PM
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Longer doesn't always mean more effort. Exercising is literally more work than last minute enhancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 04:44 PM
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Cool, so you're not very effective at it. It's almost like the people who you're trying to convince, can tell that you hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:28 PM
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Why not link to where he said that instead of posting his username? Or are you putting words in people's mouths again?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 03:06 PM
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Better than a cheater, lol. The bar is on the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:58 AM
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You really think it's working? The way you talk to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:44 AM
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Lol. Define "deal with". No, don't. That was rhetorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:43 AM
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106 stitches. Still love dogs. I couldn't blame all the wonderful ones because of one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:13 AM
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I don't care how a woman who hates men characterizes it. I'm just glad it's there for men to learn from if / when they need it. Someone smarter than both of us once said the measure of intelligence is the ability to change. It's really hard work. So if men are as lazy and unintelligent as you think they are, you've got nothing to worry about concerning RP. Quit trying to tell men how and what they can talk to each other about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:02 AM
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Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it incoherent. Fact is, a lot of men have learned from it and made it work for them. They understood it just fine. Read slower next time. You're the only one hung up on it needing to work for everyone for it to have any validity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:54 AM
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Get off your high horse, women don't care if the average man gets chosen either. At least RP is willing to help those that help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:22 PM
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You should read and understand the concepts better before accusing them of being incoherent. RP doesn't say young men can't or shouldn't date. It just explains to them that men and women on average have a much different experience of what their peak years are for attracting attention from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 09:14 PM
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Sugar babies are USING older men who are attracted to THEM. They are not attracted to those men. Being paid to act like you are attracted to someone is not the same as being attracted to something about that person. A man's money is not the man. This is why rich ugly guys with no game get taken to the cleaners. Your example is literally better suited for the opposite of the argument you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 04:27 PM
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And what "norm" would women give in return if that were the case? ALL the child care? That men even have to deal with the kids the same amount as women is ludicrous. Doesn't estrogen help with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:59 PM
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I was using "men" so we could debate civilly. You are purposely digging for for something personal from me so you can make it about me and use emotions instead of debating in good faith. Your previous comment was enough already, but now I'm sure I'm done talking to you. Go bait another hook somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:37 PM
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Unless you were the girl that got with those guys, you don't know it was "solely because of confidence."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 02:58 PM
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I have a wife. This is a good illustration of how women on this sub attempt to shame men for their sexual success or lack of. Shaming with disgusting sexual acts. Shaming men's status with women. Changing words to make men defend positions they didn't take. It's not surprising that you don't know what accountable means.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:58 AM
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That's men's life. FTFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:43 AM
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Yes, unattractive people are usually not confident. Let's not put the cart before the horse though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:41 AM
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Women on average worry more. They really want to consider that labor, but studies don't, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:37 AM
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How hard is it to understand that lots of women have different rules for different types of guys? Women say this themselves. Yes there are women who try things and don't like them. There are also women who did like things with an alpha that they would never do with a beta. Your views aren't based in reality. You're pretending this doesn't exist to protect women from being accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:21 AM
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Yup. The ones who will justify anything they say on here with "guys say worse stuff on xyz platform. Or insult a male commenter by calling him an incel, or talking about why "women won't touch him" and "you're just complaining about dry dick" etc. I think this ties in to why "Don't be vulnerable with women" is correct. Because in fights (debates) they can't stop themselves from trying to hurt the man in a personal way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:45 PM
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Maybe they should. Not sure you'd like the results of that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:12 PM
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A lot of women who say this stuff have never had a man be honest with them about their own performance. Men won't tell you you're bad because women's egos can't handle that shit. Women have a lot more options than men, so they don't care about men's ego, hence they feel justified in talking shit about men when they're no better. A woman will claim you have ED before recognizing that she's just a boring selfish lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:25 PM
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Maybe they do more when masturbating then just lay there during sex. Maybe porn and sex toys have rewired their brains to unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:14 PM
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Maybe they got the female version of death grip then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:11 PM
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Not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:29 AM
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You said men paying the price for a few criminals is "not the right mindset" then said that yeah, we should resent female teachers as a group for the few criminals who happened to be female teachers. Very unclear on your wording there. To clarify my own wording: I meant being resented = "paying the price".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:58 PM
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Glad I never had to go through this crap. Some people my age adapted to taking selfies all the time and pictures of themselves everywhere they go. By adapted, I mean swallowed the narcissism pill that social media feeds us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:52 PM
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Those are contradictory. Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:56 PM
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So men as a group must pay a price for a few criminals? Should we start resenting female teachers because a few have been in the news for SA on their students?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:29 PM
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"But women". Wouldn't be a PPD post about men without without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:22 PM
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It's hard not to judge women's sexuality when you see what they masturbate to on porn sites too! But women and men get shamed differently for different things. Try not to be a hypocrite about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 05:22 PM
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Lol. Whatever makes you feel better. Simp hierarchy. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:17 PM
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No, it doesn't. That's biological. You're doing it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 01:09 PM
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You're putting 100% of abuse and cheating on men, when women abuse and cheat too. Men cannot commit paternity fraud. You're purposely ignoring that difference so that you can compare checking paternity once with a lifetime of non reciprocal spying on your partner. Your premise is 100% in bad faith and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:51 PM
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Nah. Women will try to deny all of those scenarios equally. They will all use the same emotional excuses and shaming tactics on the man. Why should we treat those scenarios differently when the women use the same arguments no matter which scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:39 PM
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Using shame to get men to accept being defrauded is a pretty disgusting take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:33 PM
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He can just get one. This whole asking her permission thing just hilights that women see the ability to perpetuate paternity fraud as something they need to protect. But nobody needs her permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:30 PM
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How is that equal when women can't be the victim of paternity fraud? They can only be the perpetrators of it. Wild how women are supposedly the empathetic ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:27 PM
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As if rich men don't get divorced and cheated on?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:44 PM
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You're advocating that we have to participate in a woman's delusion about how old she looks or be deemed "rude". According to you, women aren't mentally capable of accepting that the age they are and the age they think they look aren't the same. In fact, they are so incapable, that men must rescue them from this self inflicted peril by encouraging the woman's vanity, lack of self awareness and poor social skills. Your immature response illuminates your lack of an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 06:18 AM
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In other words: men must help maintain women's delusions, but not the other way around. A delusion doesn't care if the thing it is distorting is subjective or objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:45 AM
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Boys get the truth at a young age. You're the one telling us women are too fragile to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:37 AM
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Women must be lied to! -Windmill_flowers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 05:14 AM
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No it won't. There are no shortcuts. All shortcuts look worse than getting the results through working out and eating healthy. It's new. It's good for people in bad health situations. People who use (abuse) it just to look good will pay a price for it. Fucking lazy ass humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:53 AM
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"make women lose their virginities" Victim complex. Women are wonderful effect in action.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:12 AM
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Nobody is missing out. Your entitled attitude would be a turn off for self respecting guys who have ANY options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:28 AM
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Escort logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:26 AM
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Yeah, your parents already pay for everything for you, but you're still asking your boyfriend to pay for your college while also getting men you're not interested in to buy you drinks and dinners. Sounds super shady and entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:25 AM
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You asked your bf to pay for your college and called it reasonable. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 09:56 PM
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So you think men who say they "punish" gold diggers are reasonable. Got it. Now I see the problem. Hope you find one!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 09:37 PM
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I hope you find your ethics match.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:45 PM
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Men do not get preferential treatment. Women and children first. Men get drafted. Men do the worst jobs. Nobody cares about men's feelings. No scholarships for being a man. Men's homeless shelters get protested for being built. There are no female white knights for men. A couple of rich or really good looking men get treated as well as slightly above average looking women. This does not make men a preferred class. Just stop trying to use times none of us were alive for, to justify ignoring and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:29 PM
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It's solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:18 PM
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No, you just read a whole bunch of extra shit into that. What I'm saying is man or woman as a breadwinner will get recognition and respect for that role. Woman primary parent gets recognition, respect and support for that role. Man primary parent does not get respect, recognition or support. He's side eyed for not being a financial provider. He's considered suspicious by moms for the same activities they are doing with their own kids. I also don't think women breadwinners can hide their lack of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 08:14 PM
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The reason a lot of men aren't willing to "play that role" is because it's kind of a shit deal. Women who want a guy like that, who you admit is rare, need to treat him as such. He usually gets the opposite treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 07:20 PM
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Sounds like entitled goldigger behavior to me. Why let somebody you don't want anything to do with buy you something? Sounds like you're being less clear about not wanting them than you are about wanting them to buy you something. I don't think this makes you a "winner".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 02:39 AM
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Why not offer to pay for the first date on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:02 PM
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Yeah, but when you say the same thing about women that women say about men, it's somehow a "problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 06:00 PM
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Men got nothing on women in that regard. Women spend waaay more time and money on trying to look like celebrities and following their lifestyles than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:58 PM
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If young women would just date men their own age, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Oh wait, these are other people, not you. So you literally don't have to worry about it! The only reason you care is because it's an opportunity to shame older men while absolving women for their part in said pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 03:54 PM
3

Slippery slope fallacy. No, a man wanting a paternity test does not mean he "has other trust issues" and you definitely can't "guarantee" that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:38 PM
5

Wanting paternity security is. You're not debating in good faith. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:28 PM
2

Oh, married women never cheat. Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:18 PM
0

That's just another attempt to shame men for wanting certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:11 PM
6

Everyone should work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 02:00 PM
4

Ah, the old men are insecure for wanting normal things trope. Must be a day ending in y.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:58 PM
2

If she's been bitchy all day or you know it's just going to be starfish compliance sex, yeah I'd rather jerk off. This isn't a vacuum. There's always context. Plenty of women would rather rub one out sometimes given a variety of contexts too. Maybe she likes porn of something she knows he won't do. Women act all jealous about the women in porn and comparing to themselves. Sometimes it's about that, sometimes it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:05 PM
6

Refusing is ok. Refusing while being controlling about how your partner takes care of it themselves is not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:30 PM
1

Is a dildo cheating? You're equating masturbating or watching porn to cheating, so whatever. What's the difference between watching porn and using your imagination where other real or imagined women might also be present?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:29 PM
7

Only if she's actually a participant in their sex life. Otherwise it's just control and manipulation to get him to agree to that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:43 PM
7

Or it's a correction to the sexual marketplace. Women see sex as some kind of gift to men and treat it as such. You even see in TONS of women's comments here on PPD how they see sex as one sided. It's always about the man getting sex and the woman getting something other than sex out of it. As if women don't like sex and must get something on top of it. And that permeates women's fucking attitudes about sex. Attitudes that turn men right the fuck off. So yeah, women putting low effort into sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:41 PM
2

Right after they turn you down for actual sex? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:33 PM
10

Yes! If we can incentivise women to go into tech, engineering & sciences with programs and scholarships, surely women will support male based programs right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:42 PM
-1

I'm redpilled post marriage and a stay at home dad with a wife who provides. The world is not so black and white. The red pill is JUST INFORMATION. It's up to each individual to digest it and figure out what applies to them. Inject it into their life and see what works. There is no dogma to RP. Just because a lot of 4chan dorks and some opportunistic influencers ALSO occupy RP digital spaces doesn't mean RP is wrong or amoral. That just means you're listening to what influencers and dorks say in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:46 AM
2

You even asking the question gives you away. A woman who actually likes and empathizes with men would see how manipulative it is without needing to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:31 AM
2

And women wouldn't ask it of those men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:22 AM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:14 AM
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I agree with all of this except one bit. The only thing I take exception to is the part where you said that I equate RP to awareness because: "it's what you believe in, much like anyone else who believes in cult-like thinking." I just described how the metaphor works. My comment said nothing about me believing anything. If you think that just "how red pill frames it", you could have provided the bluepill framing instead of insulting people for being different than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:04 AM
1

Why not insist on paying or splitting when you DO want another date?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 10:02 PM
-2

No, there really are people (mostly women) who think watching porn or masturbating are cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:58 PM
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One doesn't need to reject the red pill to be blue pilled. Not everyone is even aware of the red pill's existence. That's how the metaphor works. Blue pill is living blissfully ignorant like in the Matrix. Red pill is awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 08:36 PM
2

Sounds like you took the red pill and are now punching at the air in frustration. Become what you want, not what you think some undeserving Stacy wants. Women will sort themselves out in your life from there. Stop making women out to be more important than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:58 PM
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You're describing the aforementioned mass of emasculated men. Not masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:39 PM
1

Yeah, don't make yourself a mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:55 AM
1

Ah yes. Pointing out men and women get different benefits is somehow a failure of men. Typical misandrist take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:33 PM
4

Women slut shame all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:20 PM
2

You're just not accepting that men and women each have their own double standards that they benefit from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 06:17 PM
20

It's a Windmill flowers post. You have to suspend your disbelief. Then beat it with a stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:19 PM
8

Not if he's relaying this story to his new date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:15 PM
1

Cop out. Name something.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:39 PM
1

What are you willing to do for a married male friend that would be comparable to this? This is some female privilege you're touting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:23 PM
1

What about SAHDs?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:33 AM
6

Short version: Never trust men, even the ones you allegedly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:20 PM
1

The cars are overpriced. That's why they're sitting on the lot instead of being picked. There's a lot more Honda Accords thinking they're Ferrari's than men thinking they deserve a free car.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 02:08 PM
3

Another men should be happy to eat shit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:49 PM
6

The opposite is also true. It's more acceptable to shame men for being virgins or not being able to get sex. Basically, it's more acceptable to shame men for anything they do or don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:28 PM
0

If that were the case, then withholding sex or only having as much sex as the lower libido person wants to would be considered as bad as cheating. Some people may agree with that to certain degrees, but society definitely doesn't in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:43 PM
2

Yeah, for judgemental, unsubstantiated reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 11:45 AM
2

It's not "wrong". Who are you to judge? Sounds like you have a problem with women doing anything for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:32 PM
7

This is why social media is ruining relationships. You take this shit way too seriously. Comments and likes are affecting you in real life? You're spoonfeeding your brain with fear of men online and then coming here to justify your fear of men in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:33 PM
57

Social media is a bigger threat to these things than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 10:01 PM
1

So you even if you made 5x what he makes and he was a great stay at home parent, you wouldn't see that as equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:54 PM
2

You're conflating "eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap" with SMV. They are not the same. You're still excusing women for their own decisions and acting like they can only make them when under the influence. It's crazy the lengths you continue to go to pedestalize women over men. You use your man being able to provide for you as a positive, but you see no hypocrisy that you would not provide for him. Is he ugly or something? You say too many people want it both ways, but you DEFEND the women who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:44 PM
2

Women don't just "have higher SMV". You are screwing up the understanding of that concept. SMV is contextual. Women who provide for themselves doesn't let them go for men above their league, their attractiveness does that. And only for casual sex, not relationships. Women seem to have a hard time understanding that you providing for only yourself does not give you the same leverage or SMV boost that a man with resources gets since women don't want to provide. You want the benefits of a two lane …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:37 PM
-1

They don't ask THAT man for gift cards on top of dinner. Because he might get the wrong idea that she's not attracted to him physically. The guys "that would do" or that she's on the fence about get asked for stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:18 PM
1

That's why being a manipulative gold digger is a bad strategy for getting anything other than money. If hindsight is men's only way to differentiate, perhaps you can see why men don't want to invest up front anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:11 PM
2

Do you have a functioning relationship and family? I do. That's how I know you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:41 PM
2

Those are only for ultra distance events. They did a bunch of math and averaging large groups of competitors from a vast array of different events and times. Most of the fields were 20-25% women or less. Only the tippity top of women beat men. So they're basically comparing the top women in the world to any guy who thinks he can complete a race just to squeak out a study that shows women beating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:30 PM
1

You left out the names of any of those sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:11 PM
1

The women don't even do rings because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:09 PM
2

How can you say women are better? I mean besides the compelling argument of "nah"? There are more male only gymnastic events that the women don't even compete in than the other way around. People like to say the same with figure skating even though there are moves the women can't do that the men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 06:07 PM
2

"You have to acknowledge the cost of sex for women if you want them to have sex with you. You have to make up for what it cost them." Bullshit. Women like sex too. Women are also "just as capable of working and providing as men" in our equality society. All you're advocating for is for sex to be used transactionally and exclusively for women's benefit all while raising the price on men's side of the transaction while lowering the investment women put in. Men are already walking away from that de…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:58 PM
3

Women overestimate who their "looksmatch" is. Having to "work for" our looksmatch is just a disgusting proposition from a healthy relationship perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:25 PM
4

Sounds like you think men are utilitarian and don't deserve any validation in a relationship. This is just more women are "equal" now, but they are exempt from gender norms and men must double and triple down on gender norms. What your pill analogy fails to recognize is that it's not that men are just investing less because they felt like it. It's that they have less to invest with because women are now in the investment game too. But instead of investing in men, women are keeping their investme…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:20 PM
-4

It comes from women who are angry because they thought they could turn a hookup with a guy they liked into a relationship and they couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:52 PM
-3

It comes from women who are angry because they thought they could turn a hookup with a guy they liked into a relationship and they couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:52 PM
-8

Women seem to think this makes them sound more virtuous, but you still wanted to try the 6 ft guy. It's like trying to say most women don't like big dicks because you found one that was uncomfortable to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 01:36 PM
1

Nah. Now you're minimizing men's lived experience and gaslighting us that it's us that are the problem for some behavior women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 12:11 PM
5

Nobody does, but too many are like that to make it worth the risk. It's not like you know during dating what will trigger a future "ick" or bring up something you said or did years after you're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:47 PM
9

She will use your vulnerability against you in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:25 PM
16

It's not about bottling it up being unhealthy vs don't do that and everything will be fine. It's bottling it up is unhealthy, BUT opening up brings on more risks than we're willing to take. IF she uses your vulnerability against you during a future conflict, the results of that are WORSE than just staying bottled up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:45 PM
37

Not new. New to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:30 PM
43

The goalposts didn't move. You just accidentally saw men's perspective when you weren't looking for it. But then your instinct to protect (even manipulative) women carte blanche kicked in, so you blamed men for "moving the goalpost" that's been fixed in the ground, anchored in concrete the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:56 PM
10

Does your neck hurt from looking up to women on that pedestal?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:54 AM
23

Has she tried doing more chores around the house or taking him on dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 11:44 AM
13

Almost everything related to family law.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:54 PM
3

They are not. They chose. You said they were encouraged to make those choices. Who? Who is "encouraging" women to date financially unstable guys. I'd love to see that pitch. Give us an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 12:26 PM
4

Women are not encouraged to go for young broke men. You made that up. "Sugaring" is not the flex you seem to think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:26 AM
18

Don't sit on his lap. Don't accept drinks and gifts. Don't use him for attention etc. Use your words and say you're not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:57 PM
7

Believe it or not, but there are other women who are not you that are overweight that get indignant for being turned down by a not overweight guy. I don't think men are "bothering" overweight women and the saying "oops, didn't realize you were that heavy, here take your phone number back." You're making up a problem that isn't happening. It's guys getting catfished or shit on by co-workers for not dating their overweight friend despite her recent glow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:49 AM
2

Yes, some men are surprised to find out prostitutes cost money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:35 AM
5

Biology + lacking awareness of intersexual dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:02 AM
-2

Men are not just focusing on high maintenance women. You probably have a bias being a prostitute and living in Vegas.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:29 AM
0

I like pizza. Also grew up on Dairy Queen and I come from the land of Dunkin. It's just funny that you have more nostalgia for the place than the man. Kinda sad actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:59 AM
1

It sounds like women don't even like men. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:57 AM
0

Nice post about justifying being high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:56 AM
1

So your position is women are transactional gold diggers. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:35 AM
1

Holy shit, thank you for saying this. This person being a prostitute puts their comments in a lot more context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:27 AM
9

How is he "purposely going" for these women? Do they have first date standards plastered on their profiles? You're literally just absolving women of having expectations that are too high by gaslighting him into taking responsibility for these women's entitled behavior. Then, to follow it up, you're telling him to lower his standards...something never told to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:22 AM
6

Imagine if that "wow" was for the man and the connection instead of the cute hole in the wall. To think that's just the starting line for men dating these days is sad. I can see why they're not participating any more. It's not ever about him. It's just a movie in women's heads. I wish women had to approach and plan the dates sometime so they could see what "low effort" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:15 AM
7

Well, when your "values" are so shallow, don't go complaining about "no good men". You had your chance and you punted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:10 AM
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Too much of the trickling is going upwards instead of where it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:45 PM
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Source for aggression and violence against women rising? (Or is that a "feeling?)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 10:39 PM
7

Penis hardness = vagina wetness in this comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:46 PM
2

Bet that's how they told the story to their friends though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:41 PM
8

So if you didn't get wet right away or stay wet, a guy should just ditch you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 09:27 PM
2

That's the most pro-cuckold comment of the thread. Sit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:05 PM
13

Plenty of Chads are introverts. You seem to think introverted means socially retarded or physically lethargic. Just like extroverts can be quiet and reflective when it suits them, many introverts can turn on the charm in social situations or "be on" in a job that requires a lot of working with and talking to people. Others avoid non preferred situations entirely. It's an inclination or a preference, not a handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:51 PM
11

That's the standard for this particular OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:39 PM
5

Why? Introverted men still have to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 11:44 AM
0

You're still a single mother. Just without primary custody. Given how overwhelming favorability towards women in family courts are, not having custody of the kids could be seen as a red flag too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:35 PM
8

The Tinder Swindler would like a word on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:30 PM
2

Aka: hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:28 PM
6

It's literally not. RP tells men they have to work their ass off to get anything they want. Earn money. Build muscles. Learn social skills. You're conflating them with tradcons.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:28 PM
0

You're ignoring women that want men to "try harder". They mess the game up for other women by rewarding guys for aggressive behavior. I agree with your conclusion, but the answer to your question is it works sometimes or they wouldn't keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:11 PM
6

I asked for a source for the 87% statistic. What you provided is a video some kid narrated about what he thinks masculinity is, that uses the 87% as part of its title, but doesn't even address that number or attempt to back it up. You're not even attempting to debate in good faith. The reason I know you're making that up is because there is no way to track it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:05 PM
0

Nice = Not Attractive. The guys are being rejected for being unattractive while being told they are nice guys. They eventually put 2 and 2 together. "Most guys who claim to be rejected for being nice aren’t actually nice" Women literally say a guy was "too nice" all the time. She probably means he's unattractive in some way, but all he gets for feedback is "too nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:19 PM
1

Sure. Say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:27 PM
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Have you been fucked in the ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:15 PM
4

Source? I know you don't have one, just calling bs on your made up statistic that you called a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:05 PM
1

I have no hostility. You're just responding emotionally. I didn't say lie, but that's what you want to argue against, so go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 02:01 PM
1

I'm sure you can use your superior female social skills (or Google how to let someone down nicely) to find a nicer way to say it, but yes, that would be better than gaslighting him, or giving him what amounts to a backhanded compliment. You don't have to say it's physical attraction, but don't try to pretend it's something else to make yourself look better either. That's what bothers men about this. Google examples: "I know it can be hard to put yourself out there, but unfortunately, I'm not int…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:39 PM
0

Don't forget "narcissist". They all claim their exes were narcissists. Which is ironic coming from someone with hundreds of selfies in their phone. Statistically, there aren't that many narcissists, so they're basically telling on themselves about the 80 / 20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:14 PM
0

We get it, you only count Mega Chads and Giga Chads as Real Chads. Just another woman raising the standards beyond all reach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:28 PM
15

More creative ways to shame men for having standards. This place is like an endless well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:08 PM
3

If she got an "ick", then she's acting like a 16 year old and definitely isn't mature enough for a relationship. Man dodged a bullet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:49 PM
3

Dads and brothers used to be involved too. Women don't care about those men's opinions any more though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:37 PM
2

"A few more matches" is gaslighting on what the actual differences are in numbers. A girl "getting an ick" does not mean she lacked quality options. It means she's fickle, shallow and petty. It's disgusting how you defend and support the most egregious examples of poor female behavior in dating situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:36 PM
1

A "real woman" pays for her own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:36 PM
12

You're listing things in a man's control. A woman can "be uncomfortable" for lots of reasons that are in her head and not in the man's control. He doesn't have to display actual rudeness for her to "feel like" he's rude. That's why it's an impossible demand. Men aren't responsible for every woman's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:07 PM
1

Nope. "Also you".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:18 AM
4

Which means women trying to shame men by telling them what a "real man" is are losers too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:07 PM
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Lots of things were the default before any of us were alive. We don't get to use them as an excuse for our behavior towards the people living amongst us today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:21 PM
8

This is just another example of women using modern culture to free themselves of any relationship standards while holding men to traditional gender roles. You call doing nice things for the one you allegedly love "enabling". This is an abusive mindset. Why even have kids with someone you have so much disdain for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:23 PM
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They comprehend it. It's just in their nature to put female sexuality on a pedestal and shame male sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 11:29 AM
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So no, then. Not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:11 PM
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Dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:00 PM
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Can you point to the hourglass figure filter on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:22 PM
0

Do you feel a little tingle when you make things up in order to try to make women look "less shallow" than men? I'm trying to figure out the motivation besides pure misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:20 PM
1

It's amazing that you think this woman's emotional deficiencies make women more emotionally perceptive than men. It took her years to reach kindergarten level of understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:56 PM
0

"At least when women...." Hypocrite. Halo effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:16 PM
0

"You can't con an honest man."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:52 PM
1

I see. We should give YOU the benefit of the doubt just because you say so, but we should treat men as coercive people who pressure women into doing things they don't want to do as the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:49 PM
2

So you agree nobody wants to be settled for, but think men should be the ones to accept it. I don't think there's more uncertainty for women. You just hide behind the "guys only want one thing" bit as if a woman can't approach a man just for sex and as if no man ever approaches a woman with a relationship in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:44 PM
0

Women date men for lots of other reasons besides physical attraction. So it's the same risk men take that the woman isn't as into him as he thinks she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:45 PM
1

I don't think it's sexist, it's just expected that the girl does the cooking and cleaning. Both of those are sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:39 PM
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All those things can apply to women too. You sound like a man justifying his approach anxiety instead of finding a way to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:36 PM
-6

Why don't they know that? Can't they pick up on men's nonverbal communication? Don't they have women's intuition? Aren't they inherently better communicators than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:38 PM
5

"Other men who can." Sure, but you're not making a good case on why they should or would want to. It's like you think your misandry towards men you view as below you will be a turn on to the men you want or something. I can assure you it's the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:41 PM
3

Stop using autistic as a derogatory insult, it makes you look like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 02:33 PM
3

Sounds toxic and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:09 PM
1

That depends a large part on the age of the woman you're asking. Men are more in lockstep than women on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 02:26 PM
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You really believe the dating pool gets lower quality for a 30 year old guy vs a 19 year old guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:41 PM
6

On average, single dads don't act as entitled as single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:12 PM
3

Testosterone doesn't cause anxiety. It does the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:06 PM
1

Sounds like a skill issue. You should probably work on your grooming and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:04 PM
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Maybe they can sense your misandry: "Once they start walking. Boys are violent and aggressive from the get-go, especially when they're in a group. Ever seen two little boys fist fighting before they can even talk? This aggression turns sexual at the time of puberty, and sometimes even earlier in some (think that perverted boy in The Sandlot)."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:49 PM
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"If she likes you enough to want to date you" This is a frustrating thing. Women's dating advice always begins at step 2. It always assumes he already has his foot in the door. Followed up with women are so wonderful, they're not focused on physical attractiveness! You're describing women's feelings in the middle of an already existing relationship under the guise of giving men advice on how to start one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:43 PM
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Exactly. But the attractive men can be as creepy as they can get away with and not get labeled a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:32 PM
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"Men who don't like nose rings must be low T" Insulting men's manhood for having preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:30 PM
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You mean they want to be desired by men they find attractive while calling unattractive men creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:19 PM
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It's a numbers game. You just haven't approached enough. You just have to swallow that rejection and move on like nothing happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:14 PM
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Yes, I compared men rejecting women who had rejected them previously to women who have a glow up and reject men who were not interested in her pre glow up. What exactly is controversial about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:07 PM
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So women cannot physically make an unprovoked negative comment about a man because she doesn't have enough testosterone. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:51 PM
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No, you imagine, assume or project that. I've been married for 13 years. This isn't personal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:32 AM
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Because women are too wonderful to ever cast a stone unprovoked. 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:29 AM
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We're comparing rejections, not what men and women berate and degrade. But if you want to do that, women berate and degrade: Short men Men with below average penis size Men who don't make enough money Men who date younger women Men who can't get any women Single Dads Fat men Men who won't date fat women Older men Men who were abused Men who aren't educated enough Just off the top of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:52 AM
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Why do that when there are attractive women who didn't reject him in the past? Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 02:32 AM
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Well, they don't owe you sex or a relationship or time and attention. You should probably work on your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:55 AM
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"Share most of what they make" still allows for his money is their money, her money is her money. This is also on a post about whether or not women approach, so that's a different stage of relationship than marriage. I'm not Muslim, or religious, but I've had experiences that inform my viewpoint, I'm not just navel gazing on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:45 AM
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No, they're not. But Stacey thinks that, because Stacey only fucks with Chad and Chad has more options than Stacey realizes because she thinks she's Chad's match. So when Stacey gets pumped and dumped, or rejected by Chad, she conflates this behavior to all men because she doesn't see men that aren't Chad as potential mates. TLDR; women can't deal with the rejection men deal with, so they pretend men don't like being approached so they don't have to deal with as much rejection as those who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:36 AM
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Sounds like a skill issue then. You should try getting hobbies, grooming and working on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:27 AM
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I used the Google. Quote me if I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:25 AM
3

Maybe you just need some grooming and work on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:24 AM
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Maybe you just need some grooming and work on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:23 AM
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Why, do women like it when they're approached by 2/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:17 AM
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Yet you still have no empathy for men who face worse rejections from closer matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:16 AM
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It's not just "girls they knew". It's girls they got rejected by. Girls that had made it clear the boy was not in their league. Can you not see the difference between someone new approaching you vs someone approaching you 10 years later that rejected you before you became successful or better looking? It's like the fat girl who had a glow up rejecting the boys who wouldn't give her the time of day when she was fat. She has the right to her new standards and so do the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:13 AM
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"They routinely tell women to get degrees and level up their careers" Who tells women to do this? Not the men the women are looking for, so who are you blaming for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:01 AM
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His money is our money. Her money is her money. And we know you "don't need men anymore" but protection is expected too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:50 PM
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Maybe you're shooting out of your league. That's what men would be told.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:45 PM
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33% of men. 34% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:17 PM
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Sounds like you just want to root against their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:26 PM
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Why do women look for men outside of their hometown that they know best? Passport bros are just a reaction to the dating apps skewing the dating marketplace so much in women's (and the very few men at the top) favors. They took the marketplace global, but like always, women don't like when the men they don't find attractive try to participate. Women got the apps handed to them on a silver platter. Passport bros still have to work for whatever they end up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:14 PM
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There is more than one market. Why should a man cut himself off from options he likes just to suit another market that has been hostile to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:05 PM
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Maybe in your country. They said American.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:58 PM
2

Or you just label them losers so you can justify dismissing their experience and struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:53 PM
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You're purposefully only accounting for anything they have been mocked or degraded for AFTER the terrible things they did. They deserve those. But your position is that it's physically impossible for a woman to mock a man until he's done something wrong. You just retroactively accuse any man who's been mocked as having done something to deserve it in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:27 PM
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You're right. They can do either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:01 PM
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That has nothing to do with what I said. I don't think you know what that figure of speech means.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:51 PM
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You keep putting your word (bobblehead) in other people's mouths. Don't do that. They didn't say that word. You did. It really gives away the game that you're not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:43 PM
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No shit! Took you long enough to even admit they are capable of it. At least you got there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:37 PM
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So you're implying women do the planning and resource allocation and think that evens out the distribution of labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:43 AM
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Having money isn't a trait. "Alphas don't have money" I think you're confusing having money with using money to be a dutiful provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:40 AM
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"He seemed cool with it." Did he? Or are you diminishing his emotions because he's a man? Did you look at his face as Jada publicly told the world she banged their son's friend? The guy who very publicly embarrassed himself on her behalf? He seems "cool with it" to you? Does no longer living together seem "cool with it"? You don't care enough about men's emotions to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:27 AM
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I know. I was being sarcastic. I thought the capitals and lowercase thing could kinda be interpreted like a "/s" at the end would have been. Way overshot my internet skillset.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:56 AM
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You're right. These things are EqUaL!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:09 AM
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Diminishing physical labor isn't the flex you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:22 PM
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"(built by other women)" Lol. They were built by men invisible to women. Yet women will actually protest and prevent the construction of a men's homeless shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:10 PM
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Bullshit! That's the halo effect. As if women are incapable of throwing the first stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:55 PM
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Or they were told they could be open and honest with women. Thanks for admitting that believing that makes you "socially inept". You're doing a great job supporting Red Pill there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:46 PM
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So blame women for using incel too loosely then. But don't act like you're just nitpicking over semantics. Your title says virgin shaming doesn't exist, then your comments basically say it exists, but it is deserved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:36 PM
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Bunch of misandrist malarkey. Nobody can show you proof you refuse to see. It's clear that you've established a pattern where, even if you were presented with perfect examples, you can just hand wave it away by attributing something negative to the man involved such that he "deserves" the shaming. Virgin is only synonymous with bitter, hateful misogynist in your head. Sure, there are virgins who are those things, but you're trying to meld them into the same word. You are blinded by your need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:04 PM
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Because women think they have a monopoly on emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:50 PM
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You are portraying every (but only male) virgins as bitter and mysogynistic women haters. By conflating the two, you are literally shaming virgins with this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:42 PM
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It's your personality, not your education.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:39 PM
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This is just cope for women with shitty personalities who conflate their value as a person to their smv. Women being bossy and disagreeable doesn't = men are insecure and intimidated. The arrogance to even believe that is what turns men off. Smart women are great. Women who think they are so smart men are intimidated by their existence are exhausting and no fun to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:33 PM
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There are plenty of men who put effort into their friends, yet strike out with women. You act like every man who hasn't had success must be isolated and friendless. I get that empathy is hard for you, but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:43 PM
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This is your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:04 PM
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Some of them do. But the point doesn't have to be to free the guy up for themselves necessarily. It's a shame tactic to keep other men from even trying to achieve the same outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:54 PM
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It's not bad. It's a shaming tactic used by women and society to get men to cave on their own sexual strategy so women's sexual strategy can succeed instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:32 PM
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Yup. That's why women use men's sexual prowess, or lack thereof as an insult when they want to be hurtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:27 PM
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As if men aren't part of "the social harmony"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:24 PM
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You made a whole post complaining about men feeling entitled. Now you feel entitled to using this sub as your emotional tampon because you can't handle the internet. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:21 PM
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No, I'm clear on how reddit works. You seem to be the one struggling with it. Sorry to hear your crush didn't work out. That's not men's fault here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:51 AM
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The problem is that the process described is actively turning more women shitty as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:06 AM
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Oh look, we found another way to refer to men as defective women!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:56 AM
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Did someone make you read "their rantings"? Sounds like you just want to go on your own rant about men. "Derogatory comments on women on sexual subs" So you're coming to a debate sub to complain about how men talk to / about women in a porn sub? You are acting in bad faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:11 AM
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But it is not ok if the man doesn't want to marry someone who doesn't want to fuck him. So, yes unless you checked that he only wants a platonic relationship too, that would be using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:53 AM
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This is girl math on crack. Weird how you just state that it should be split with no actual reasons to support your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:38 AM
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Sounds like you're projecting what some men do onto all men and using that to justify not being honest in your communication so you could still see if the relationship would go anywhere. I would want to know that kinky stuff had been taken off the table even if I was responsible for it. I can then choose to leave or stay based on sexual compatibility. That's fair and open.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:59 PM
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Yeah, but if they changed their minds, they don't always communicate that. You said the first time, he did that. So you felt safe enough to hook up with him more after that, just not safe enough to try new things?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:27 PM
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...."but men"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:14 PM
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Enjoy your superiority complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:23 PM
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Condescending attitudes like this contribute to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:17 PM
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Women often say they're kinky, high libido, and open to trying new things, but it turns out to be false advertising to keep a guy around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:15 PM
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Nobody said it had to be coddled. I'm just arguing against you removing the validity of a man's emotions and replacing them with the motivator of 'just so they can complain about women.' Is a woman allowed to have an emotion if she finds out her boyfriend / husband used to use prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:05 PM
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A woman having sex doesn't take away men's humanity. Invalidating their emotions does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:42 PM
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Thank you for reminding us of your virginity. It's irrelevant here. If you haven't had sex with anyone, then you haven't had the opportunity to treat anyone differently sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:37 PM
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That argument completely invalidates the man from having any feelings. You really think men get upset about this just so they can complain? It has nothing to do with how it makes them feel about their relationship? Way to take away men's humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:29 PM
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You really think it's even controversial to say more women watch the NBA than the WNBA? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:15 PM
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Or men's stuff is also more interesting to women than women's stuff. Women don't watch the NBA over the WNBA just as a gesture to participate in men's hobbies. They do it because it's a better product and more culturally relevant. You "women are wonderfulled" the hell out of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:00 PM
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She's projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:46 PM
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And you think only age gap relationships are subject to fomo? I guess you've never heard of a glow up, career promotion or pay raise. Lots of things are higher on the FOMO list than age gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:45 PM
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Doesn't it matter for women too, or are you pretending it doesn't so you can ask skeptical questions about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:38 PM
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Used to be true. But women don't like / need men anymore. Women don't really reward that trait in men like they did in the past. It stems from the idea that men love idealistically and women love opportunistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:24 PM
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Ok, why would women try to get with men they're not attracted to for money? That's just prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:22 PM
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Wait...are you saying what it would be their fault they got assaulted because of how they were dressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:09 PM
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Why would you try to get with men you're not attracted to for money? That's just prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:53 PM
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No, simps do not do well with women. They get used until she can do better. Their needs are ignored while hers are put on a pedestal. How do you literally type a phrase like "Happy wife, happy life" and then say they're not pushovers? Simps are pushovers by definition. Your last sentence completely negates the previous three.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:26 PM
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Nobody is saying it can't be. Just don't act all Pikachu faced when he trades you in for a younger, hotter model. I mean, don't be delusional and sanctimonious about being past your prime either. Basically you're just trying to justify using men you're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:03 PM
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So any level of participation they choose then. They can choose what does and doesn't apply to them. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:59 PM
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By today's women's standards, showing effort and interest = head over heels. (Sad, I know) Guys don't expect the level of attention women get, but they're learning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 PM
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Men having self respect is often interpreted as misogyny. Watch the difference in reactions when a woman sets boundaries vs a man doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:40 PM
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Yes. Basic, irrefutable statements get downvoted without comment because they contrast with the emotional, inflammatory response that the downvoter would really like to make, but doesn't want to be held accountable for. In other words: the truth stings, but they have no argument against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:00 PM
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You honestly expect us to believe you've never heard the phrase "he knocked her up"? Women say "he got her pregnant" all the damn time around here, as if pregnancy makes them a victim of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:08 PM
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Interesting that you say men have feelings too, but then go on to list men's duties. It really seems as if you don't actually care about men's feelings unless they provide some utility to you. And to top it off, you're condescending towards them about it. You're mad men's feelings don't lead to them wanting to take care of another man's kids. And you try to invalidate their feelings because they're not being utilitarian (cucked) enough for you. That's some manipulative shit right there. I hope m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:08 PM
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Interesting that you say men have feelings too, but then go on to list men's duties. It really seems as if you don't actually care about men's feelings unless they provide some utility to you. And to top it off, you're condescending towards them about it. You're mad men's feelings don't lead to them wanting to take care of another man's kids. And you try to invalidate their feelings because they're not being utilitarian (cucked) enough for you. That's some manipulative shit right there. I hope m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 01:08 PM
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Women turn down men all the time without being accused of hiding something. Women who think a man who rejected them is hiding something just don't want to accept the truth. They would rather make something up, like "he's just intimidated by my (beauty, success, lifestyle etc.)" than accept the rejection. Ego preservation. Men often deal with rejection through anger. Women tend to rely on denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:53 PM
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Not reasonable to expect a date to pay for your Uber or babysitter. If you can't afford those, then YOU are too broke to be dating. I can only imagine how the expectations would go up as time went on. What the hell does the guy get out of this deal that would make it worth all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:25 PM
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I think when women argue with men (not sure how it works with two women) they are willing to make it personal and try to actually hurt the man they're arguing with. That's why you can't be vulnerable with them. That's why you don't argue with them. Sure, there are men that act like that. They're called assholes. Women who do this seem to have some magical cover (halo effect?) and are just seen as women being women though. And it's telling that they always go after a man's sexual competency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:20 PM
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Money and status are not mutually exclusive. What percentage of men do you think are financially secure? How does being in that percentage not give them status over other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:00 PM
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Loyalty. Love. Respect. Vows. I guess those don't mean anything to hollow, transactional people. What a disgusting view. Sad coming from a "man".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:32 PM
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"Pornsick" has been reduced to an insult, much like "incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:21 PM
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I've seen many men here give her some pretty supportive comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:17 PM
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Introverted women. They don't have to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:11 PM
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Misandric version checked off, now do the misogynistic version!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:09 PM
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Be fit. Be fun. Be feminine. Add something to his life. Be submissive. Those are so rare nowadays, that they go a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:04 PM
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You don't see anyone punishing deadbeat fathers? Oh, I get it. You're IGNORING that deadbeat father's have their wages garnished and are put in jail for not paying child support. Deep down you knew that though. You debate in such bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:29 PM
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If the manosphere did promote men's day, would you even know? Why is it when you search international men's day on youtube, one of the top videos is about why international men's day shouldn't be allowed to exist? Should you have to answer for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:34 PM
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It's just a fact. "Fault" doesn't matter, I'm not assigning blame. Men still have to Google it. Women have been sure women's day existed since they were born. Without ever having to Google it. That has an impact on awareness. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:06 PM
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I do. Please point out where I "complained". All I did was state a simple fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:55 PM
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Nowhere did I absolve men from accountability, nor did I blame women. I just said one thing existed longer than the other, so your comment doesn't really make sense other than to get defensive on behalf of women when nobody was blaming them. Is this a reflex or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:51 PM
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The idea was established then. It didn't get implemented until 1999. I'm not whining about anything. I just pointed out that people don't readily know about the thing that's only existed for 1/3 as long. It's funny how just a fact like that makes you lash out like a child. "LMFAO"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:47 PM
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Having a women's day for almost 90 years before a men's day was added to the calendar might have some effect on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:28 PM
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Most of the manosphere is information, advice and self improvement. So, yes it does. Pointing out that women don't help in response to women saying the manosphere doesn't help isn't blaming them. It's just pointing out that when women say the manosphere doesn't help, they don't actually care about men getting help, so their opinion on the matter doesn't mean shit, because it's skewed towards their own interests and not men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:17 PM
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This is projection. Women don't care about fixing men's issues. They will only discuss it in two contexts: As an opportunity to talk about women's problems. As an opportunity to say that men's problems are their own fault. So at least the manosphere allows the discussion to happen. That's still better than women actively working to keep the discussion from even happening. Hence, manosphere cares more about fixing men's issues than women do. If you're trying to show that women care more about men…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:46 PM
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Stop talking to me. You chose bear. And you're trying to justify it by further denigrating men. Go live in the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 02:37 PM
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Did you just conveniently forget about the bear? That was just the anti male rhetoric flavor of the week. It must be so commonplace that you forget so easily. Masculine behavior is not antisocial. Reducing anti male rhetoric to being asked to vacuum is an amateur attempt at gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:58 PM
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I would pose the same question to them. That's not the get out of misandry free card that you think it is. Why can't you be accountable for your words without saying "but men..."?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:47 PM
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Why do women despise men's self improvement?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:22 PM
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If you don't hate men, why do you try to shame them for their manhood at every opportunity?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 12:14 PM
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Rare. I wouldn't say unpopular though. Men are pretty thirsty for submissiveness and femininity these days. I respect that you're willing to go all in. Good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:55 PM
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"I want to be pursued the way my grandma was." But do you want to do the things your grandma did? Do you want to forego the things she did? Wasn't she repressed by the patriarchy? Women seem to look at gender roles as a one way street. You want men to perform theirs, but women don't want to be held to the same standards. It's as if they only thought about what they could gain through equality, while deeming everything they had to give up for equality as "unfair".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:19 PM
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Yeah, I might have given that benefit of the doubt had it not been for the "rubbing it in" factor of their last sentence. That said, I think where women still try to gaslight men on this subject is by trying to downplay their attraction cues (to not seem as "shallow" as men) by talking about them as if they are equal. When in reality they are compounding factors. For example, here we're talking about height. "It's a big factor, but not the only factor" is more generous than commenter I responded…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:01 PM
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I get that, and agree in the broader context, but on ppd, we all know that the context is sex and relationships. Pretending otherwise in order to deflect on the question of whether success with women came before or after success in the broader context of a man's life is disingenuous goal post moving, while simultaneously providing RP with another example of status must come first. Commenter I responded to was trying to avoid that fact in order to gaslight average short men that their height is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:12 PM
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Women from here, go over to RP spaces then come back here saying men talk mean about women over there. Women were never invited over there. They're sticking their nose where it doesn't belong, then coming back here to complain that the men there don't behave and speak like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:01 PM
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You're being pedantic. Sure, most men don't have tough jobs. That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of tough jobs out there. And men, by FAR exceed women in those fields. But you knew that, which is why you had to make false equivalents. You're pretending a nurse is as physically hard of a job as being a roofer, logger, oil rig, mechanic, machine maintenance, mining, landscaping, construction worker etc. Just stop, it makes you sound like you don't appreciate the times we live in or the people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 04:01 PM
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Why should men exchanging info leave out hypergamy and smv? How would excluding those topics benefit them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:50 PM
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If we were having this discussion anywhere besides this forum, you would have more of a point. You and I both know we're talking about success with women, so trying to move the goalposts away from female validation as a measure of success seems like a bad faith argument. Calling people who think differently than you not "well adjusted" confirms it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:43 PM
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Nobody said RP is a "legit system". It's just passing notes. That doesn't make it a religion either. You're putting expectations and goals on it that nobody else does. Do you think every man who has used something learned from RP owes you a book report or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:35 PM
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Do you know how he did with women before becoming rich and famous or are we just supposed to pretend that he's equal to other short guys who aren't rich or famous? Perhaps you're purposely excluding that context as your point crumbles in light of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:22 PM
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You just seem hellbent on there being some metric of "success" for RP that it has not achieved. The fact that RP knowledge spread is it's success. There are plenty of dudes out there bragging that this or that worked for them if you care to look. That's what RP was in the first place. Just guys exchanging notes on what worked and why. Why would anyone feel cheated unless they had some weird expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 03:10 PM
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As if you would accept, in good faith, that their success was based on RP knowledge and implementation when they talked about it? Come on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:43 PM
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Red Pill doesn't talk about "grand narratives". You're conflating the RP with "influencers", "online personalities", and "content creators".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 02:32 PM
-1

You're putting up more red flags than a new car dealership. The projection is strong in this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:19 PM
0

That's a disgusting and sexist comment that promotes hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:18 PM
-4

Right. We're talking about RP and "manosphere". Nobody is talking like that here. They're complaining here about what people say over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:10 PM
2

Jesus Christ you're full of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:02 PM
3

Can we also judge all feminists by the ones who say "kill all men?" Would you be willing to explain what they mean by that in order to defend feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:56 PM
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"That's not reasonable" It's not meant for you. So it can be as offensive as it wants to be. If you happen to wander in, and get offended, you're free to leave. Bitching about it is just trying to invade men's spaces and make them change their behavior because you don't like it. You walked into a locker room. Leave if you don't like it, but don't presume to stand outside the room and tell the people inside how to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:49 PM
4

Agreed. It's living with a woman, not marriage itself that decreases men's testosterone. I think not living together would improve social skills for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:40 PM
4

Sure. Anything that benefits women and children is good and natural, especially if a man pays the price, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:36 PM
2

Only the top % of guys can pull this off, but you speak as if most men do this. Stop blaming men in general for what only a few men can get away with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:36 PM
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"Hey, this dating advice works, it just takes 10 years!" Please stop giving advice to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:10 PM
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The advice women give men won't work anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:07 PM
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I think the shock comes from how much women have downplayed how much men's looks matter in the past compared to the revelation of the truth. It's not just the lie, it's the egregiousness of it. "Looks aren't the only thing that matters - but of course they still matter." This is still downplaying it when the truth is that looks matter even more for women than for men (80/20 rule).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:58 PM
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Very redpill advice. Same goes for lonely women. I'm fine with that. Just stop pretending women are more empathetic than men. Clearly they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 12:46 PM
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Neither do you. You literally only use it as a weapon to poke at men that aren't acting how you want them to. You don't pay attention to lonely men and you don't care about them, so don't even bring it up if all you're going to do is weaponize it. You are the empathy gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:11 PM
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It's the advice a man would get from the red pill. You can use quotes wherever you think I said women are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:10 PM
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LTR = Audition For Wife If he hasn't asked, she's failing the audition. It's not that I'm making it about "wahmen bad". It's that you're refusing to even consider that she should do anything to show the man how his married life with her would be better than his LTR life with her. You keep repeating her wants, her intentions, her demands. When asked what he gets, you get defensive. I'm not blaming women. I'm telling you to think about what YOU could do, but you refuse to look inward. It MUST be t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:05 PM
4

You conveniently leave off that the man was reacting to years of his needs being ignored. Denying someone sex while holding them to monogamy is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:31 PM
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But what does he get? She made her "want" known. That's one sided. What is she doing to convince him he should want to marry her? Does what he wants even enter the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:25 PM
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Female perspective. You have so many more choices, that you can spend your dates on only marriage material men. (Yet you're still complaining) Men have to take more of what they get. Men need experience to know what they're doing with women. The current dating market has cut that out while increasing women's options. So now you have men who won't marry for even more reasons than we had before. I guess you'd better get better at being a wife if you want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:22 PM
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I thought we were just being mean to the opposite sex for no reason while cackling about it. That's how most of your comments read.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:09 PM
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If a woman wants marriage, what is she doing to make herself marriage material? If it's just complaining about not being married, then I can see why he would change his mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:07 PM
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Do they use their words or do they just wait for the man to do what they want then complain on reddit when it doesn't happen? Sounds like the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:00 PM
0

Lmao women aren't entitled to monogamy. Tit for tat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:39 PM
7

Yes, that's the whole point! Thank you for finally agreeing and not gaslighting men about "who they are".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:04 PM
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That's just excuse making and trying to make women out to be less superficial than men. The most attractive guys are the ones that get approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:45 PM
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It's utterly strange that you fear being bullied or manipulated into a sexual act more from someone sexually inexperienced than someone who is experienced. You're going out of your way to pick on men you see as below you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:15 PM
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Holy shit. You just blamed 100% of negative genetics on men. As if women don't have genes. And you also blamed men's dating struggles on genes. Lol. You're like the dystopian eugenecist if misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:11 PM
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It sounds like you already judged inexperienced men this way, so you just went ahead and applied the worst stereotypes you could for their circumstances. You're also supporting fuckbois over regular men by telling men that you will reject them for their lack of sexual ability and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:55 PM
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"Not afraid of anything." Sure, except rejection. That's literally why they won't approach men. If we're supposed to be equal, then that does in fact display social weakness. Women are allowed their weaknesses, men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:44 PM
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I didn't know I was obligated to comment on things I haven't read just to keep an equilibrium for Your Highness. You and your ego have a nice day now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:16 PM
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We're fully aware that the mother is to blame, not the child. Weird how women ignore the mom and focus on what they still want out of the man. Not, how is he doing. Not, I hope he's ok. No. It's "get back in there and do the job women need you to do or you're a bad person" It's women using a child (that isn't his) as a human shield against accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:11 PM
1

Love and attraction are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:03 PM
1

Try reading the comments then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:40 PM
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Or maybe you're judging from a pedestal where this could literally never happen to you, so you're telling yourself things (in front of us) that make you sound better to yourself and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:33 PM
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Hope your ego is good company then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:20 PM
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Is getting pumped and dumped by Chad "winning"? Women keep saying no, but here you are using it to claim single moms are doing better than single men. And you're only focused on dating, which is just one aspect of how someone is doing. For instance, wouldn't it make sense for a single guy with no dependents to be better off than a single mom financially?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:39 PM
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So you dated single moms or are you just making false equivalents of your "experiences" with single moms compared to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:07 PM
1

I see. So other people minding their own business are responsible for your discomfort. But if they are good looking enough, then "nothing to see here".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:03 PM
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Is there some rule to being a human that says you can only be attracted to people your own age? Sounds like you're judging attraction, which is not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:01 PM
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Criminals do better than the average guy in attracting women. And yes, women do compete with men. Equality, right? You are right that it's a very masculine trait, but modern women seem to think they can be masculine and still get a masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:55 PM
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That's a lot of things about how men are supposed to act and how they should treat a woman. I know you're not for equality, but what does she do for him? That always gets left out. Like men are supposed to take the deal after only hearing what OUR duties are and women don't even care to attempt make it sound appealing to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:46 PM
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It's amazing how your wording still makes the promiscuous woman a victim. Predictable, but amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:09 PM
1

So you feel entitled to being paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:06 PM
0

23 and 18 are both adults. Yes, you need to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:29 AM
1

We don't all vote the same. Don't be a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 03:22 AM
1

So 46 and 30 is unacceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:53 AM
1

Is it a red flag to date only 7 years older?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:46 AM
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Most honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:43 AM
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Strong argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:07 AM
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How humble of you. Again, why is it so hard to say you would pay for a guy you are attracted to? You specifically said you only pay so guys won't feel entitled. Your response assumes the ones you're attracted to always automatically want to pay and always want sex "before the date even starts". So why offer to pay 1/2 for guys you're not attracted to, but not the ones you're actually attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:55 AM
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You have no way to know that. But that isn't what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:33 AM
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So you wouldn't pay for a guy you liked a lot or wanted to have sex with? Sounds self defeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:16 AM
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Right, I'm not saying women lie ABOUT that. I'm saying they can also lie TO GET a relationship, just like men can lie to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:58 PM
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Sure. If you insist on thinking they just magically become "desperate" after a certain expiration age, rather than thinking about, or addressing what I said. Weirdly, you ignored 50% of my comment. By weirdly, I mean conveniently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:51 PM
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No shit! Just confirming and adding reasons. Sorry for conversing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:17 PM
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You're making a case against fatherhood, not for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:15 PM
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That doesn't give less incentive to lie. For instance, women often lie about their libido early on, only to find out that she was just trying to overstate her sexuality to appear more attractive for a long term relationship. You're just trying to moralize sex as being inferior to a relationship to make men sound more shallow than women. That won't work here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:07 PM
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"Unattractiveness is a fault" Are you trying to prove blackpillers right or something? I'm sure you only meant men when you typed that. Did you really mean to blame women too for the looks they were born with as a "fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:59 PM
4

Again, one of those times women blame all men for what only the top men can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:48 PM
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Just your experience. It's more about ability and abundance than age.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:44 PM
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"Less" is doing a lot of unnecessary work in that sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:43 PM
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Maybe women could have some part in this accountability too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:38 PM
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Business owners are also more likely to work overtime too. Yes, it's more volatile than a kindergarten paycheck. But it has more upside due to the volatility and risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:58 PM
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I think they meant in the context of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:52 PM
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80% of men are not the minority. Women ignore these men while simultaneously blaming them for what the 20% can get away with. You just aren't interested in what the 80% of guys want because they don't exist in woman world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:34 PM
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Right. As opposed to kindergarten which has fixed hours. https://www.google.com/search?q=construction+overtime+statistics&oq=construction+overtime+st&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBECEYoAEyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAjIHCAgQIRirAjIHCAkQIRifBTIHCAoQIRifBTIHCAsQIRifBTIHCAwQIRifBTIHCA0QIRifBTIHCA4QIRifBdIBCTE0NDcxajBqN6gCFLACAQ&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:18 PM
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Social stigma. Also, construction often offers lots of overtime, kindergarten does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:44 PM
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Unfortunately, some women do believe that they should be allowed to trick men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:04 PM
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It didn't just make it easier for the top men. It made it easier for average women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:21 AM
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It's sad that you try to make it personal to try and make a point. I'm not the commenter you responded to, but they didn't admit shit. They just pointed out the cause and effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:16 AM
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Wait a second. You're talking about content creators? Wtf? I'm talking about real people who haven't purposely put themselves in the spotlight. Damn. You do realize content creators KNOW they will get haters, which actually gives them more clicks, interaction and money, right? What genre are these content creators? I'm guessing the women are more attention seeking in some way than the men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:05 AM
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It's not meant to make anyone skinnier. It's meant to get people to stop forcing the concept of body positivity on us. I'm not condoning bullying, but how can you not see that it's a REACTION? If there was no movement, you wouldn't see an uptick in this specific type of bullying. (Lots of people get bullied for lots of reasons. Not many of them have as much support as a body positivity campaign though) If the media and society went on some "short positivity" campaign telling women that short is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:29 AM
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A lot of what you're probably referring to as "bullying" is not men going out of their way to chase a fat woman down to make fun of her weight. It's a REACTION to being told by everyone that there is something wrong with THEM for not finding overweight women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 02:05 AM
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So they're all finding those guys that only exist as .05% of the population? Or they're not, and they're fine with it and definately not asking "where are all the good men?". Ok, sure thing. That probably has nothing to due with more women being on antidepressants, but go off with your lack of empathy (which antidepressants contribute to)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:40 AM
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Attractiveness gets you more opportunities to fuck up and learn, so it's always going to come first. That said, There are lots of non-autistic people who suck at socializing so much that we don't need to stigmatize autistic people specifically. Ask any introvert.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:26 AM
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I see. Thanks for the response!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:22 AM
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How did it feel to know you wete partly liked for your financial contributions? I think being fit, childless and having a good personality will get further than the financial part. I say this as a sahd who doesn't currently work. My wife makes great money, but it has never factored into my attraction. In fact, I've had to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:03 AM
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Right. So not worth as much effort is the point to juxtapose with the woman's (typically) POV of being after a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:57 PM
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You're missing the point of those videos. The women give answers that = .05% of the male population and we laugh at their delusion. Men are just flabbergasted at these women's hubris and lack of knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:52 PM
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I'm married, so you don't have to use "you". The thing is, you're telling people who don't get out of the starting blocks that how they lean at the finish line is more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 11:40 PM
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Sure. After they've already been chosen. So it doesn't matter for being chosen. Which was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:59 PM
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But women don't pick men based on personality or "emotional intelligence" , so why should we listen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:08 PM
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That's what they choose on dating apps. Try catching a woman saying that in public. You won't. That's the point. They say they choose a list characteristics that makes them sound less shallow. Then they pick the shallow option. Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. Just stop gaslighting guys with that list of characteristics that you don't really end up choosing. Just own it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:02 PM
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How did you go from women lose their dignity and value to men, then jump to blaming men for watching porn? If they have lost their dignity and value to men why would men put in the effort? Women become porn and complain about men watching it at the same time. It's not just that men aren't putting in the effort, it's that the women aren't worth putting effort into.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:12 PM
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Well, your concerns are full of shit. You don't actually care about kids having a dad in their life and you don't care about the men you would make step dads out of. You just want to absolve single moms of any responsibility for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:33 PM
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Well, motherlessness seems to cause less issues. Single dads don't have all the negative outcomes that single moms do, despite getting less societal help. Maybe we should be giving custody to the dads instead of moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:20 PM
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Just admit you go for looks more than personality. Or that you're a bad judge of character. Men see who gets picked. It's not people being shallow that's the issue. It's the lying and gaslighting that bothers them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:18 PM
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Are the step fathers you're foisting this responsibility on even part of society? Do they have a say in what is "the greater good"? Sounds like you view these men as expendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:05 PM
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Single dads don't have the high percentage of negative outcomes that single moms do. Maybe we should just give more custody to single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:54 PM
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"The man creates" Did you just literally blame conception 100% on one gender? Why do you assume all single mothers were all blameless, abandoned victims? Some hoes don't even know who the dad is. Some kicked him out for stupid reasons. And lots of women "don't need a man for anything". It's amazing that you blame the parent that is absent over the parent who is present and has control. Single dads raise children without all the statistical negatives that single moms result in. You're not proving…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:40 PM
3

Another post from a woman about how to be a real man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:29 PM
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Way too many women on here want to blame men's personalities to make women look less shallow for picking looks, money and status over personality. Keep shouting into the wind if you like, but guys are watching what women do, rather than what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:27 PM
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Are you as good at it as you think you are? Most women suck too. Even though women have more access to experience, and at younger ages than men. The difference is men will teach, women get the ick if they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:11 PM
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And women can just lay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:05 PM
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It's to counter all the feminist propaganda that tells men to "do the right thing" (for her). That being a step dad is the bare minimum etc. To warn men that taking that deal will get you more responsibility with less authority. To show men that women don't really appreciate the sacrifices a man makes to take on another man's child. Maybe they're trying to bring back the days when single motherhood was seen as something was missing instead of crowning single moms like they are wonder woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:57 AM
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Why should men have sex with women who are fat and not hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:41 PM
1

"If they aren't interesting to be around and don't make a woman cum, they're useless." -Downtown_Cat_1173 You're right. I changed the word "interesting" for men to "hot" for women. Your sexism comes across better when I quote you directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:06 PM
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I didn't say people shouldn't be good companions, that's your own strawman. You just devalued men the same way you are complaining about. Expecting men to be super interesting at all times and be able to make you cum or deeming them valueless is not a reasonable ask. Pure hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:32 PM
1

What happened to the short, chubby ginger you're always bragging about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:20 PM
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I have been married for 13 years. You assume anyone who doesn't agree with you is lonely and unfuckable. Sorry, but your marriage doesn't make you better than everyone else and flinging shit doesn't cover your hypocrisy as well as you think. "It’s funny that you are offended at the idea of people expecting people they interact with to be good companions." You made that all up in your head. I said nothing of the sort, I just pointed out your hypocrisy on sexism. You stretch so far to change peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:12 PM
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You realize that saying this exact same thing would get a man labeled as sexist. If a woman isn't hot and can't make a man cum, she's useless. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:03 PM
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No. It's harder to properly gender trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:53 PM
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He didn't say that. He said women are more shallow than they let on. Are you so lacking in attention to detail that you don't realize you're completely changing people's words or is it on purpose? Because when it is the norm rather than the exception, it seems like you do it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:45 PM
1

It makes sense if you translate that strong and independent means annoying and difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:17 PM
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I've been married for 13 years. I don't know what superiority complex your marriage gives you or if you already had that going in. Stop trying to call people failures for not being you. It's very shallow and sad. The goal of redpill is not marriage, so you're way off the mark anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:11 PM
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Thing is, sugarbabies and women who slept their way to the top will say they're strong and independent too! And nobody bats an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:05 PM
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"I never got the sense that they were suggesting they're fully independent from all other entities in the world." Yeah, they're pretty clear they mostly mean independent from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:02 PM
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The people responding are conveniently ignoring the proximate insults they use all the time. Who lives in basements in modern day online discourse? "Incels." "Losers." "Mass shooters." Living in their parent's basement is often thrown in to add insult to injury and complete the visual picture of a social failure. I don't understand the sudden Pikachu faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:54 PM
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Tell us again how much better you are than other people for being married! Wouldn't be a day ending in y if you skipped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:34 PM
1

Nice walk back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:58 PM
4

Just say you like that he's dead. Let your hatred show.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:54 PM
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I don't know. This is your hypothetical. I was just pointing out that you were being myopic and one sided about it by giving you another perspective. I don't see being dishonest about your feelings and keeping them hidden as being a "better" friend. Ending a friendship, or tapering it down to an appropriate level based on the new dynamic is mature. Talking of doing those things as throwing a person away is immature. I'm not sure what you have invested in this, but I don't think you'll find much …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:12 PM
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You're making an angel out of the other friend, which isn't always the case. The one who developed feelings could have been the "better" friend, putting in more effort since the friendship started.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:39 PM
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"The only difference between close friend and a romantic partner is the sex/intimacy." No. There are a lot more differences. You're weirdly fixated on this "Bad Friend" idea. I agree with your semantical argument that people usually put themselves in the friend zone. I disagree that developing feelings and adjusting your behavior makes you a "bad" anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:51 PM
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The golden rule applies here. You'd be making the same argument if the genders were reversed. In fact, women would be shaming men for being "shallow" when we bring up attraction while you're telling us there are plenty of good women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:06 PM
1

"Women don't hit a wall." Proceeds to describe the wall. All within the same title. Bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:54 AM
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No. They're not blaming women for the crimes. They're just not letting women take the spotlight on victimhood for violent crimes when men experience them at much higher statistical rates. Nobody is saying men are victims of women more often in violent crimes. You know that, but still choose to twist other people's words so you can dodge the point and make a completely different argument. The way you change people's words on them is shallow, disingenuous and debating in bad faith. It's transparen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:39 PM
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I did. That's how I knew there was nothing in there about reasoning with the bear. Maybe you should have read it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:52 AM
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Exactly. The commenter you are responding to does this ALL THE TIME. It is not the "gotcha" that they think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:49 PM
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You straight make things up. Find me a source on red pill anything that advocates get rich quick schemes. Red pill does tell men to improve their education as well as their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:30 PM
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Guys who do steroids go to the gym too. They still took a short cut. They're still risking their health. They still face side effects. Women will still judge them for those choices. Why should it be different for a woman who took drugs? Good for you for going to the gym, but don't act all fussy about being called out for doing drugs to help you. Acting like they didn't have an impact is just lying to yourself, which you're free to do. Just don't expect everyone else to participate in that lie fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:25 PM
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You're confusing the red pill with Christians. There's nothing moral or immoral about the red pill. It's just information. It's Christians who take Biblical ideas and twist them for impure purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 01:12 PM
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Nope. If she doesn't feel enough attraction to know whether she wants to date him then the juice isn't going to be worth the squeeze just by adding more time. You're just describing a dancing monkey extended audition. You're basically conceding on her being attracted to him in order to give her more time to decide if he's worth keeping around for OTHER reasons besides attraction. This is how women give men advice to help beta-tize themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:39 PM
0

Oh look, a link about basic bear encounters that says nothing about reasoning with them like you stated. But we already knew that, because you never debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:10 PM
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You assume too much about a widely distributed group.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:48 PM
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So you used performance enhancing drugs to lose weight. Lots of guys go to the gym. You don't need to do steroids to look good. But some people do. That doesn't make steroids or Semaglutide necessary. Shortcuts always have consequences. Saying you need money to be fit is cope. Discipline is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:22 PM
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Why is being more difficult to date an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:08 PM
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Well most women's reactions to having worked for both is that they'd rather have a male boss. "No one prefers a male boss" Absolutes like that just make you look silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:31 PM
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Ok, reason with the bear. Tell us what you'd say. Lol. Delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 01:15 PM
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"More productive" for what? I'm attractive. I'm married. I fuck. I'm not asking for advice, I'm telling you what I have observed working for others and myself. Women on this sub seem to think anyone not heeding femcentric advice is struggling with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 02:31 PM
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You don't call men rapists, but you take precautions. You don't just live as if men can't rape you. Because men have raped women. We don't say women love assholes. But we see that they reward assholes with attention and sex. So we don't just live as if women like nice guys like they say. Because women do fuck assholes. It's not a slippery slope, it's just observing and prioritizing their behavior more than their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:36 PM
1

I'm sure avoiding friendships, male or otherwise is easy with your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:17 PM
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This was a lot of words to say that you're more difficult to date than most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:45 PM
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I'm starting to think women only believe this about men and not about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:19 PM
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Your toxic masculinity is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:06 PM
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So? It's not my job to say what you want to say. Just because he thinks women's intuition is silly doesn't mean he doesn't love women. And it certainly doesn't mean he views them as subhuman like the comment I responded to said. Men can recognize flaws in women and still love them. Can women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:50 PM
2

Man says he loves women. Woman acts skeptical. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:14 PM
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I mean, you're pre-labeling things I didn't say before I even speak. Pretty much proves my point. No need to engage a person with that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:54 PM
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Right. The old "I don't know if you do x, I'm just innocently insinuating you do x though". There was no reason to bring it up. You just wanted to disparage the man and cast shade on his love for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:47 PM
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But anything men want in return will be labeled misogyny. It's not like we haven't played this game before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:42 PM
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No, you brought up thinking of women as subhuman to vilify men. Now you're just trying to not look like you just did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:36 PM
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That's some condescending bullshit. Telling the poster how he feels about women after he already told you. You just can't accept anything but victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:16 PM
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Yeah, according to that comment, even asking a girl for her number makes you "despicable" and a target for mace. Shit makes me root for the apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:11 PM
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Why do you think that sounds like a good deal for men? It sounds pathetic. Why would we want someone who didn't want us at first? Sounds like being made to wait because you're "boyfriend material" but never getting to feel genuine desire. Stop gaslighting men into accepting crumbs from women who think they are better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:53 PM
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You just sound like you irrationally hate / fear men. Why would a man attempting to get a girl to go on a date or give him her number have a goal of making her feel uncomfortable? That's counterproductive. And you don't need a taser and pepper spray for someone that's asking for your number. You're just being hyperbolic to vilify men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:41 PM
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You actually quantified it as 70% of this post's respondents in one of your other comments. I'd say that qualifies as more than "some". Go off though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:07 PM
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If a man gets 80% of what he's looking for in a woman, he's usually happy. For women, if they get 80% of what they're looking for in a man, they still write posts like OP. So delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:13 PM
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The only thing creepy about it is the women and white knights forcing their opinions on other people's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:49 PM
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It's not just housework. What happens is the woman has more anxiety than the man. The woman then judges the man's contributions based on that anxiety. If she's worried about something and the man doesn't match her anxiety, this counts as an emotional labor difference in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:04 PM
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Man is being compared to bear in that analogy. Women aren't being compared to anything. Not the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 05:02 PM
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So men who are concerned with paternity and not being cuckolded should accept women's bad threat evaluation skills too? "If we can't cheat on you without being called out, you're worse than a bear!" - tainted pill woman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:01 PM
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Did you get all those matches within 24 hours like she did?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:19 PM
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Maybe by "get in touch" they mean we should use vibrators like they do? They get very grossed out by male sex toys, so maybe you're onto something lol. (This damn sub can make you so reactive that I took your response seriously up to the word gay, lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:14 PM
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Why are bodyscan, mediation and yoga your only examples of "getting in touch with your body"? Sounds like men are defective if they don't do things like a woman. Lift heavy. Hike. Learn a martial art. Play a sport. Men and women can do LOTS of things to "get in touch with their bodies" but it's not seen as valid if it's masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:16 PM
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That has nothing to do with OP's observation that a hot girl on his arm increases his status. Women look for status in men. Nothing wrong with OP's observation. You just have a poor opinion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:08 PM
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Just because someone noticed an effect doesn't mean they care more about the effect than the woman. Calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:31 PM
1

Why are women allowed to care about status and men not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:50 AM
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I don't know, ask a man who does those jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:00 AM
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Really? Then why is the gynocentric media writing article after article blaming the marriage decline on "economically unattractive" men? Why doesn't that term apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:41 PM
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"Actively". No. Because most men don't have the option to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:04 PM
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What? She still got help from men for nothing when the kid was little and you still say she didn't live life on easy mode? It's like the parts that make it easier are invisible or something. She's been using men all her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:02 PM
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"Maybe they are even content with being an orbiter, as that can also be mutually satisfying." No. It can't. What a gross thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:57 PM
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I wasn't defining it. I was answering the question in your last paragraph. The definition isn't as important as the impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:56 PM
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It's because knowing that hypergamy is real means that men now understand that she sees being matched with her equal as settling. However you want to nitpick the definition doesn't really matter, it's the outcome men care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:56 PM
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Some men don't find rp until after they are already married. It helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:43 PM
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Some women like younger men. Why aren't they accused of being attracted to their naivete?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:59 PM
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Middle class is part of the oppressor group? Do you hear yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:43 PM
0

Are men your age stupid for choosing older women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:58 PM
2

Why do you think young women are stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:25 PM
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You act as if women won in this fight against oppression without the help of any men. You're purposely erasing men from the help women received then so that you can excuse women from helping men today. And you're also discounting the often spouted claim by feminists that feminism helps all people, including men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:18 PM
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"Oppressor". Funny how different parts of feminism claim they're actually helping men, while others call men oppressors. You can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 02:12 PM
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Yeah, I'm not in here fixing myself. I do that on my own and keep it to myself. I'm married anyways, so half this shit doesn't even apply to me. I thought we were all in here to solve the world's problems by talking and not doing anything about it 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:01 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:50 PM
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Sure. But let's not act like men haven't been shamed by society or women for having sexual desires. Let's not act like boys haven't been taught to be apologetic for existing. So maybe they do need to be talked about. Just stating that women could stop leaving out this extra context doesn't mean I'm calling them "ze evil womenz".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:42 PM
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Sure. But many of those 7s see male 7s and 8s as 5s. Or they're 5s but see themselves as 7-8. Part of it is gassing each other up. Part of it is social media, filters etc. We can't pretend it hasn't had an impact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:32 PM
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I did not see not nagging at him and not being fat as very specific criteria. But they were on your list of things men are leaving out when they say they just want to be desired. As if being nagged at for video games or porn is part of that "being desired" package? Do you not see a difference between a woman wanting a 666 guy and a guy wanting someone who isn't fat and doesn't nag? One of those is like .05%, the other is a real whole double digit number.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:27 PM
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Ok, if women have more dating options, allowing them to be more picky, please explain how that doesn't inflate their egos? How could it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:07 PM
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You were not merely pointing out the other qualifications. You were shaming the man for having those very basic expectations. That you pushed back on those things is pretty telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:04 PM
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Your problem is you see red pill as an ideology, hence your caricature of red pillers. It is a praxeology.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:57 PM
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That's kind of OP's point. They should say they want someone with a backbone and not leave that out when they say they just "want a nice guy who treats me well" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:40 PM
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Why do you write that like it's a bad thing? Why would he want an aggressive, disagreeable, broke, fat nag who is a prude and doesn't like his hobbies? You can't even leave a hypothetical man alone without denigrating him for wanting some peace in his relationship. It shows a lack of empathy towards men for even having the audacity to want to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:27 PM
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I think the issue is that with access to a global dating marketplace and social media, women's opinions of themselves is inflated and they THINK they're better than their actual matches. Women see men that are 7-8 as 5s. And we know all women are 10s when you ask them. Average men don't get the attention that average women get and it has an impact on how this all plays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:07 PM
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These are some neurotic men's fears not "redpill concerns". Even if your cartoonish examples had any merit, you're still just shitting on men's emotions. But what you're lacking in empathy and insight, you make up for with condescension. You really wrote some words there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:18 PM
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Depends on the level of attraction. If he's "doing it" for her, she doesn't care about the dishes. If she's not that attracted to him, but doesn't want to give up the benefits of the relationship then she'll say it's because of the dishes instead of being honest. Then when the dishes are done, she isn't anymore attracted to him than before. Eventually he figures out that it's not about him doing the dishes. There are some men out there having sex while there are dirty dishes in the sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:10 PM
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Depends on the status of the man and the level of attraction the woman has for him. Women wouldn't even think of expecting choreplay from some men, but use it manipulatively with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 06:59 PM
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Thank you for finally admitting that you can't make yourself more attractive through those things. I wish women would admit this up front, without trying to justify it. Going to the gym, dressing nicer, being interesting, being competent are things that a man can do to be more attractive. Doing dishes and waiting longer for sex do not. Women conflate relationship comfort with sexual attraction and give men relationship comfort advice when they're looking for sexual attraction advice. It feels ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:47 PM
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Sure. But you can't make yourself more attractive through choreplay or being made to wait. That was my original comment that you said "not necessarily" to. You are dancing around it without actually refuting my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:18 PM
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That's a lot of words to just say you can't make yourself more attractive, but you can make yourself more unattractive. Your first paragraph is talking about making yourself more unattractive, but the premise of the original comment was you can't go up in attraction, so this is an unnecessary and distracting digression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 05:01 PM
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Suicidal thoughts are a listed side effect of lots of antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:38 PM
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Honest take. This hilights why "making him wait" and "choreplay" are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:09 PM
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That last sentence is written from the female perspective. What if you want someone with beauty, personality, loyalty and fun? Women and men aren't always looking for the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:06 PM
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Tradwife cosplayers still get lumped in, especially if they are "influencers". It's not that they ARE actual tradwives, that's just the genre of content they're creating. They don't believe in that lifestyle, they're just scamming people who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:32 PM
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Why is it so easy for people to believe a woman can have a "glow up" (see, we even make up fun names for them) but then be so skeptical about men's self improvement? I think women don't want men to be able to change their status. Social mobility (SMV in this case) for me, but not for thee.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:27 PM
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Wow, men are just manipulative monsters to you, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:14 PM
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It's amazing how close you were, but still found a way to blame men for women's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:04 PM
1

1 man = anecdote. I was replying to the comment that said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:12 PM
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Show us the studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 02:10 PM
2

She tells women in that book to date all the bad boys when they're young, but don't marry them. Look for a guy who does equal chores and all that for a guy to marry when you're done having fun and that she'll find it "sexy over time". She advocates "the chase" even in long term marriage. Never pursue a man. She basically says don't do anything for a man, they should always be chasing. She basically advocates not being a doormat by making the man unto one. She's 46 and single by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 12:33 PM
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If you're not exaggerating or trying to paint the messenger in a bad light to avoid having to make a substantial argument, then pointing out ONE shouldn't have been too hard. You made your choice. Thanks for participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:26 PM
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Strawman. Men don't think a woman having sex lowers their value as a person. Many men do think a woman having too many sexual partners lowers their value as a potential candidate for their own long term partnership. Women seem to have a tough time distinguishing between value as a person and SMV. I think it stems from men and women having different attraction triggers, which is confusing to women who don't get rewarded in the sexual marketplace for their personal achievements.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:35 PM
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Because men try to figure out women because they have the sex. Women don't bother trying to figure men out because they can turn on the sex to get men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:00 PM
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Can you show me the page, or quote in redpill where they say anything comes "automatically"? You act as if RP only talks about money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:25 PM
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There's people out there writing books like "Men love bitches". "Boss babes" are a thing. Women "becoming the men they want to marry" is a thing. It's still the silent general consensus, but there are a lot of loud voices shaming men for wanting feminine women. Women even defend their lack of femininity by saying men aren't masculine enough for them to let their femininity out. Masculinity must always be on display, but they think they can make their femininity conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:54 PM
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Just saying it's hypocritical to act like men don't care about the women they're actually pursuing while women don't even recognize 80% of men as men. I didn't say they had to be attracted. You projected that. I'm talking about women not treating the 80% of men as if they even exist. And you're just being pedantic about "plates" which is just another term for options. Women used to have lots of "suitors" (they still do, but they used to, too) and nobody complained.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:18 PM
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Women find 80% of men unattractive. You don't have empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:10 PM
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So you're saying using prostitutes is shitty behavior? Is being a prostitute shitty behavior too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:49 PM
2

Now you're deciding the importance of sex for other men and calling them privileged for not being happy sharing your lack of a sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:43 PM
0

100%? The women have 0% responsibility? No woman ever lied, ever took a used condom out of the trash?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:48 PM
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Right. Let's put it back on men with their 1 condom. I'm not saying men aren't responsible for pregnancy too. But we've been pretending it's 50/50 for far too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 02:02 PM
0

Um, yes they are in fact garnishing paychecks for child support. And putting men in jail for not paying. Stop gaslighting men on this topic. There are very few people giving payments to avoid legal hassles. Know why? Because if you give random money to a woman for "child support" outside of the "legal hassles", you will never get credit for that. And if she takes you to court years later because she doesn't like your new girlfriend or something, she can file for child support and you will owe fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:53 PM
-2

Women have like 52 versions of bc and they know where they are in their cycle. Sure, it takes two. But let's not pretend they both have the same options and information available at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:43 PM
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She can be as picky as her options. The rest is just delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:36 PM
5

More desirable to men you are attracted to. You didn't notice a lot of guys in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:33 PM
1

You just said women don't have a dual mating strategy, then described their dual mating strategy. The part you're missing though is that they usually switch from Chad when they're younger to a provider when they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:22 PM
1

So a stay at home parent to you is: Woman - self sacrificing, responsible and competent Man - lazy, incompetent, irresponsible, leech
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:55 PM
0

As if women don't marry or get with a man because of his lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:34 PM
0

You make relationships sound like so much work. And one sided too. I would say wives / girlfriends who treat their boyfriends / husbands like friends tend to kill the sexual spark. Relationships need some polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:59 PM
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That's some coping. If it were true, we'd find women dressed and made up at times and places that we just don't. "Not doing things for men" isn't the flex that feminism has sold it as.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:48 PM
1

If men were the ones bitching about the "bare minimum" and "the bar is in hell" then your point would apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:04 PM
2

He's saying the bare minimum is bullshit because it only applies to the men women aren't as attracted to. "The bare minimum" like other rules, are only for men they want to use for relationship stuff, but aren't as hot to fuck. The regular accountant guy, she has rules for. The ripped, Jason Mamoa looking guy can show up smelly and sweaty with food in his beard and you're not going to hear shit about bare minimums.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:26 PM
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The title is correct, but the rest is just terrible writing. That said, it's usually men who are spoken of as being as loyal as their options. Women in general always have options. Having options is one of the dividing characteristics between high value men and average men from a SMV standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:55 PM
0

All she's doing is taking a nice gesture off the table as a power move. All you're doing is trying to put this nice gesture under a different category by making up the phrase "relationship gesture" because you think we can't see you moving the goalposts when you do stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:37 PM
4

If you really believe that, then autistic women should exclusively date autistic men....right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 12:57 PM
-1

You make no sense. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:34 PM
2

You be vulnerable then. Good luck. I've learned my lesson and improved. I observed what happened instead of listening and taking everything at face value. Too many men have gone through the same. Even if not every woman is like that, enough of them are to make it not worth the risk. They can "not be like that" for years and then boom. That's what I meant by a long enough timeline. Too many people in here think they're invincible and they know everything because it hasn't happened to them yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:33 PM
0

Find a woman who can turn herself on? If she can't turn herself on, she does not want you as much as the woman who can? We're talking about sex, not masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 01:18 PM
2

You're arguing for me to disregard my own lived experience. No, I'm not. I'm asking you what the definition of "true intimacy" is and how you became the gatekeeper of what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:43 AM
2

Who are you to be the arbiter of what "truly intimate" is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:16 AM
2

You can call me all the names you want. Should I end my marriage over my wife weaponizing my vulnerability against me one time? Stop calling everything "toxic". Sometimes decent people fuck up and they don't know why. Why am I the bad guy for learning from my experience and applying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 11:14 AM
2

On a long enough timeline: AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:11 AM
2

No, some of us are married and love our wives and wanted to understand how they could be so cruel as to use vulnerabilities we shared in the past against us in a disagreement years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:10 AM
2

Obviously you're already not doing nice gestures like this for men you don't like or aren't attracted to. So it makes zero sense to announce that you're not going to do this nice gesture (that's on you, because nobody is expecting it) for someone you do like and are attracted to. Yeah, men may not be making dinner. But they're also not preemptively announcing that they won't make dinner for you until you give them a blow job. They're not proudly taking that gesture off the table just to show you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:54 AM
2

Actually, most of us are responding that no we don't expect it. So it's not just men who "wants to be serviced without doing anything in return" that are upset. How can you not see that it's the shitty attitude of preemptively, vocally, removing a nice gesture from her repertoire that is the problem, not the lack of cooking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:20 AM
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Responsibility? No. But do you need to? Yes if you want to get the outcome you want. Why? There are a lot of other reasons, but if you don't turn her on, then you open yourself up to the choreplay path you alluded to. If you know how to turn her on, then you know she's full of shit if she tells you seeing you do the dishes is what puts her in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:57 PM
1

Please describe your harrowing exit from this "cult" since you claim to have been a part of it in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:34 PM
32

I've heard it as: "Women are sex objects, men are success objects". It just boils down to attraction triggers from the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 05:20 PM
0

Your response illustrates that you don't know the difference between a praxeology and an ideology. Calling it a cult doesn't make you right, it displays intellectual laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:42 PM
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Women can take this advice too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:37 PM
7

Red Pill is not an ideology. It's a praxeology. Any comparison to FDS is bull. RP tells men how things are and if they want to do better, they need to improve. FDS tells women that men don't deserve them no matter where they are at in life or whether they improve or not. Additionally, you only hear from RP men online who are stuck in one phase or who just found RP. You don't seek out or care to hear from men whose lives have been improved by RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:28 PM
4

Nope. Treat invitations to show emotions as shit tests. This is one of those areas that women might talk a good game, but they still hold men to rigid gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:18 PM
5

Drunk or sober: ignore what they say, watch what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:56 PM
3

There's something missing from this equation. The man that is all these things has options. So why is he going to choose you? Make sure your answer lists an equal number of minimum requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:18 PM
2

Are you valuing men the way THEY want?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:47 PM
8

Why do they blame average men for the things only 15-20 percent of men get to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:34 PM
6

Why would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:10 AM
83

Take every complaint they make about "men" and change it to "the men I am attracted to".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:23 PM
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Nah. It's just excusing not controlling your emotions. Just because a woman has anxiety doesn't mean there's a man to blame. Aren't women strong and independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 07:22 PM
2

Blaming porn is the way to always keep the blame on the man, no matter what the woman is or isn't doing. If a woman can blame porn rather than look internally, she will.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:26 PM
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That's a sexist female supremacy thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:11 PM
5

Maybe he has topics he wants a female perspective on. Maybe he wants to generate preselection. Dickheaded response 'dude'.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:49 PM
9

If you are not as anxious as she is, then she'll see herself as doing more emotional labor. Just because women do more of it, doesn't mean they're calibrated correctly. They count their own anxiety over anything and everything as part of this emotional labor bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:47 PM
1

Thanks for your condescension.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 05:34 PM
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Sure it does. I've read lots of advice on TRP that says talk to 10 strangers a day to work on starting conversations and get over the anxiety. Work on your eye contact throughout your day. Give compliments. How to manufacture preselection etc. Not moving past the anger phase that comes with red pill revelations and not actually doing the work is what keeps them in the bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:59 PM
1

Good thing your title accounts for that then huh? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:55 PM
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Easy. Do you want to continue interacting with this woman? Then don't be vulnerable with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:50 PM
1

I'm a stay at home Dad. My wife sits at a desk on a computer and talks to people on the phone. She has to travel for 3-4 days every other month or so. Are some jobs harder than stay at home parent? Sure. All of them? Not a chance. I buy every grocery. Cook every meal. Drive every mile. Make every meeting. Teach every lesson. Car maintenance. House maintenance. Lift. Stay in shape. Try to start a business in between all that. I had to drop what I was good at, so if I go back, I start over. Please…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:39 PM
1

Yes and no. Can it be harder? Yes, absolutely. Is it ALWAYS harder? No, there's too much variance in the experience. For instance, a person becoming a stay at home parent just because they can afford to and always wanted that lifestyle is not the same as the person who had to sacrifice earning money to do other things for the family that still help economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:22 PM
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You're confusing hard work with highly compensated skills, knowledge and owning things. There are a lot of reasons people become stay at home parents. For example, daycare is so expensive that it can be cheaper for a parent to stay home than pay for daycare. Some parents are hands on and don't want to outsource parenting to strangers. Some parents have special needs kids that require on parent sacrifice their career to stay home. For some it's a lifestyle choice so they can have someone to run t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:06 PM
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Something that doesn't often get mentioned is that the stay at home parent may be sacrificing their career. They have to make a lot of changes and sacrifices unless their lives were always intent on that path from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:51 PM
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About 12%
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:07 PM
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Also glad you don't know any manipulative women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:59 AM
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Here's how you can check if this is true. Ask yourself if money would still help before 30. If it would, then yes, it matters. Your statement acts as if younger men don't have to compete against older men for younger women's attention. They do. Just like older women have to compete with younger women for the men they both want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:52 AM
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Speaking of studies, are you aware that about 30% of men under 30 are virgins? Maybe you have a bury your head in the sand since it affects men bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:31 AM
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Lol. Apples = Oranges. Just wave your hand and magically things that were different are now equal. This is more fantastical female imagery than a debate point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:54 AM
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So they can start the same process? Average men don't have as many options as average women do. Your response illustrates how replaceable women see men as.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:58 AM
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80% of divorces are initiated by women. Her pay increasing higher than her husband's is a huge statistical predictor of divorce. Married men don't get to be complacent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:35 AM
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Studies have shown that monogamous married men and monogamous men in LTRs have lowered testosterone levels by about 20% compared to single men, or men who were involved with a woman but continued to pursue other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:55 PM
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It's 1% worldwide, 2% in the US. That only counts diagnosed people though. It's 5-6 million people (US), but the main reason you hear about it so much is because it's a rapidly growing number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:21 PM
1

Females on the spectrum are better at masking their autism than males. This is one of the reasons boys are diagnosed earlier and more easily than girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 09:15 PM
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Because they put logic before emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:13 PM
1

Frame as a concept applies to other areas of your life besides just romantic relationships. Not all communication is overt. Taking the red pill doesn't disable you from communicating what you want, in fact the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:12 PM
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But he literally just said that he did fine when he didn't tell them first. It's not that everyone around him has some psychic sense of his "energy". Women treated him differently when he told them he was a virgin. When he shut up about it, they didn't know and he didn't get rejected for it since their psychic energy receptors aren't a real thing. They just treat men who are virgins differently because it gives them the "ick". Men's inexperience is a turnoff for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 08:05 PM
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Pretty Privilege Problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:32 PM
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You live in such privileged times, that man has tamed nature to the point you woupd choose to meet a bear in the woods over a man. Talk about being blind to your own privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:29 PM
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It really doesn't. You just added your worst fear to it. You really think combative, disagreeable women are somehow better at marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:01 PM
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Actually, they get snatched up quickly for LTRs and marriage. Your response illustrates OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:35 PM
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Found the femcel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:47 PM
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Are the tides really turning? Every woman I hear about with an underage boy gets a headline and sentence that don't look anything like when a man does the same thing. Men sexually assault or rape. Women seem to just "have sex" with their victims and get off light.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:27 PM
-1

No, not everyone is "mesmerized" by someone who looks "put together". Different things impress different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:57 PM
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Why do you think younger women are so stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:51 PM
3

About 1/3 of women have a higher libido than the average man. That is nowhere near "most women"..."at least as strong as the average guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:53 PM
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That's fine if you have to. Not all women are the same though. I'm sure your 5 minute guide covers that. I was just pointing out that what the above commenter called an "intuitive lover" is actually an "experienced" lover. Women just love energy, manifesting and intuition. Don't tell them you had to read a guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:38 PM
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You really think that's "intuition" rather than experience? Do you believe in "manifesting" too?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:28 PM
1

Why are the women having unprotected sex with men who don't want kids? Why are women having unprotected sex if they aren't financially stable enough to pay for a kid on their own? That door swings both ways. Women want all of the choices while putting all of the accountability on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:24 PM
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There it is. Accountability for he, but none for she.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:16 PM
2

It's like Animal Farm. Men and women are equal. Women are just more equal than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:14 PM
1

Your premise is flawed. The tree can never be the threat that a man, woman or bear can be. The tree or the bear can also never be the potential help that a man or a woman could be. That's part of my contention with the women who choose bear: The bear can only hurt you or leave you alone. The man can hurt you or leave you alone OR lead you to safety, protect you etc. But the women who choose bear are too myopic and casually misandrist to let the positives even enter the equation, even if they vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:47 PM
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I'm married for 13 years. You failed your psychic exam. Saying your comment had it's head up it's ass is not abuse, you're being hyperbolic. It's not that men aren't happy for their women's success, It's that a woman's success isn't part of a man's attraction to her like it is for a woman when she's evaluating a man. That, and a woman having a lot of financial success, surpassing her husband's income during a marriage is one of the leading precipitators of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:24 PM
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When you can't make a rational argument, use personal insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:01 PM
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So women with money won't date down financially because men who make more money think their women should be supportive? This comment has its head up it's own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:54 AM
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Women don't even like men for men and can't understand why that's upsetting to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 11:42 AM
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Imagine how small you must feel to have all that money and success, but attempt to flex by calling married men simps in a reddit post. You still have a lot to learn about being a man. Maybe spend some of your wealth and free time on that. You sound like a lonely attention whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 08:20 PM
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The post didn't say anything about the man REFUSING to work. It just said unemployed. You added that to vilify a hypothetical man. Think about that while asking yourself why her weight isn't her responsibility, but his employment is, even when you don't have any context. Women lose attraction too. Just because you didn't, doesn't make people that do villains.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:44 PM
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This is why you don't get advice from women. Even mothers will give advice that benefits a woman she hasn't met over her son's best interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:55 AM
2

How do you know the bear won't have an erection? Does getting eaten by a man or bear with an erection somehow more painful or deadly? Such a weird take, to go out of your way to find something disgusting to say about men. There are women who kill babies, but men don't act like the average woman is a baby killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:34 AM
12

It's about you thinking of the average man as the worst of mankind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:29 AM
15

So a man pretending to be a woman is more trustworthy than default man. Got it. You're just a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:26 AM
2

Actually, the question is fine. It's the answer that doesn't make sense, especially using the context you added.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:18 AM
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"Why would you be any woman's first choice?" Wow. That just straight up admits women don't love men the way men love women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:29 PM
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If she can't "manifest" a personal assistant or slave, she'll train you. The fact that she even verbalized that should be a red flag to you. No, you can't save this. She'll put wheels under the goalposts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:27 PM
2

Right. And it didn't work because women would rather sit there waiting for attention than to risk the type of rejection guys go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:18 PM
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Welcome to the rejection men face every day. Take a deep drag of that sweet, sweet equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 02:15 PM
1

This is the most loving answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:43 PM
5

Impressing one woman is not the same as trying to be impressive to all women. Your second sentence kind of negates the first one. Neither sentence refutes the comment you responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:07 PM
1

Later in the relationship women put their effort into everything around them except their man and assume that he's getting what he needs since she's doing a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:40 PM
1

Never. Being used isn't success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:56 AM
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Women find 80% of men unattractive now that we've globalized the sexual marketplace. Men are not the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:38 PM
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Not very flattering results from the women. 0% would support a man they supposedly love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:36 PM
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Women find 80% of men on dating apps unattractive. The problem is NOT men's standards, especially on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:16 PM
1

Yeah, but we can't stop the rest of the simps, which means other girls will see OF girls' success and continue trying to emulate it. We won't get rid of simps though, since historically 40% of men have procreated, but 80% of women have. Women seem to have no idea how many men die virgins. OF girls are here to take advantage of their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:14 PM
2

Women only date across or up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 01:10 PM
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They're not in high demand. They're just all looking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:56 AM
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So women penalize the men in their lives for the men in their past. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:44 AM
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Doesn't have to be an effeminate man. It's called betatization by 1,000 cuts. Masculine man loses his job, it will start happening etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:38 AM
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Ideal to be nagged and looked down on? Wtf are you on? Nobody wanted to get with "tiger moms".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:35 AM
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We are all equal here, but some are more equal than others I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 06:57 PM
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Why is it ok for young women to take advantage of age gaps, but not older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:34 PM
1

It's not an argument, it's an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:45 PM
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A) It's ok for her because her deception was better? B) You don't get to decide FOR HIM what he would or would not have done if he knew what she really looked like. Sure, some guys would have sex with her anyways, but some might not. His body, his choice. Some women might have had sex with the guy even if they knew he was a bus driver. Him lying and saying he's a doctor doesn't make him a rapist when she finds out he drives the bus. Unless you're telling me women only see men as a utility and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:43 PM
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You give women the chance to retroactively remove consent, but not men. Are we equal or are you just a hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:15 PM
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So can a man claim retroactive withdrawal of consent when he finds out her nails, lashes or hair are fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:41 AM
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I don't think that the negative view towards femininity is because of it's nature. I think what's upsetting about femininity to them is its disappearance. Women turned away from femininity because they wanted the benefits of masculinity combined with the benefits of being a woman without having to accept the downsides of either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:45 PM
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"Violence towards women is normalized" You sound unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:51 AM
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Men with fewer options. Men she isn't that interested in. But to answer the main question, is a woman's kids means he comes after them. Most men don't want that. She may expect him to pay for them. He might not want that. She might have drama with the kids dad. He might not want to deal with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:46 PM
0

Again, you only attribute evil to man and nothing positive. It says man, not serial killer. The average man is not evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:31 PM
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Choosing bear means they are not only choosing bear over men at their worst, but also over men at their best. In this scenario, the bear can do nothing for the woman only to her. The man can do A LOT to help her. Protection, resources, knowledge, navigation etc. But all she sees when a man appears is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:18 PM
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Right, because women are somehow never racist and have immunity to road rage? Your bigotry is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:09 PM
2

Women are the only ones who think and tell each other this bullshit. It's cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:05 PM
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Why? Liars usually win and women love them for it and keep going back. See: Tinder Swindler and The Ex She Can't Get Over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:41 PM
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She's using words like that to justify her actions in her mind. She will blame you for her cheating. Anything to avoid taking accountability for her choices and actions.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/02/24 01:20 PM
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You do more men a disservice. Most dating advice women give men sucks. You give nice guy advice that lands dudes in the friend zone. The fuckboys you describe have learned to not listen to your advice and watch what you do instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:49 PM
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The problem with asking women for dating advice is that men want advice that will get them laid and women give advice as if being put in the friend zone is a good thing. Guys will tell a girl that a guy she likes is out of her league. Girls won't tell a guy that, they'll walk him right into her friend zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:35 PM
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You are advocating for men to sacrifice their biological mating strategy and women to...keep doing what they're doing. AF/BB is something men need to know and understand about women, but not something to be embraced. We already have Open Hypergamy. What you're describing is institutionalized cuckoldry. Captain Step Dad Save A Ho being around for them after they have made all their mistakes and had all their fun is not a hero. He gets turned into a punching bag. No. Men need to hold women account…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:21 PM
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