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Legal RightsKahing/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:17 AM
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QuestionsKahing/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:43 AM
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Legal RightsKahing/r/MensRights28/05/15 08:49 PM
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CMVKahing/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 01:53 PM
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False AccusationsKahing/r/MensRights12/04/15 05:05 PM
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Kahing/r/MensRights10/11/13 05:56 AM
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DiscussionKahing/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 02:07 PM
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Kahing/r/MensRights27/01/14 06:31 AM
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AnalysisKahing/r/MensRights08/04/15 02:42 AM
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DiscussionKahing/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 06:34 PM
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DebateKahing/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:36 AM
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I think you'd be surprised at how many would.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:59 PM
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It would be much, much worse without porn. Sure you have a lot of that but a lot of guys are at least kept sufficiently satiated that they have a measurably satisfying life without a girlfriend and not have their libidos bothering them as much. Like I said though, the real measure would be a neuroscience breakthrough that allows people to change sexuality at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:09 PM
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Being in a social circle and approaching a woman because you like her character is completely different from cold approaching a woman because you like her boobs. Except sticking to within social circles is a terrible idea. You only have a limited amount of shots, and given that women find a lower percentage of men attractive than vice versa, chances of striking out are high. And what then? A man who confines himself to only dating within a social circle will very often have no one. Also, men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:17 PM
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Men are already satiated to a large extent by porn. And I've said this before, but if neuroscience ever discovers how to alter sexuality I think straight men will swamp requests for this just so they can be gay and get laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 04:00 PM
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The whole status and money thing looks completely different. By 2040 most jobs are gone due to AI and robotics. There isn't really "poverty" or "low status" so to speak. Almost everyone has no job and lives off of UBI, doing whatever they want with limitless free time. A small upper class, consisting of company owners, high-end professionals who oversee the tech, and people in physical jobs that are less easy to robotify such as electricians and plumbers, as well as those with legacy money, will…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:18 AM
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It isn't negative support, it's just horniness. If men had female sex drives they wouldn't bother dating. If science ever finds out how to modify human sexuality I suspect a lot of men will turn gay to have more sex. It has nothing to do with being "taught" and "socialized."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 12:39 AM
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If it were the other way around men absolutely would be shamed into solving the problem. You already see that with age gap relationships. Older guys like Leonardo Dicaprio, who pretty much every woman his own age wants but can't get, are shamed and ridiculed for their dating choices for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 02:20 PM
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Saying "my party is obviously the correct one and has all the solutions" won't convince everyone even if I do think said party would be generally closer to my preferences on most domestic issues were I still living in the US, though some of the more insane stuff puts me off. However, as I said, this is not just a US phenomenon. The causes need to also be seen in the context of what the left is like in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:51 AM
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There are some policies most people disagree with pushed by the other party but I'm not sure how much I could get away with saying here without the Reddit Admins intervening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:45 AM
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First of all, it varies by country. "Lack of affordable healthcare" doubtless means you're referring to a US context but this is a phenomenon elsewhere too. In the US both parties have also pushed policies that most people don't support but one party treats men as the enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:36 AM
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They're a reasonable proxy because they're a type of man who has more choice than any other type of man. A billionaire, or really any seriously rich man, has women lining up to date him. These guys can behave based purely on their desires without any constraints imposed by female selectivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:00 PM
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I don't think the issue is just false rape allegations. It's honest rape allegations that point to the wrong guy. There's a guy named Ronald Cotton who wrote a book with his former accuser about him. He spent years in prison because she honestly believed he was her rapist. When it comes to a crime where so much hinges on testimony the system has to be really careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:50 PM
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There's no "looks organ" but we know men care more about looks than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:14 PM
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The fact that women seem to care more about this stuff at a base level even when the workforce is open to them seems to indicate that it is indeed biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:48 PM
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Males would almost certainly have played the primary roles in any such hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:32 PM
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There's a difference between taking part in hunts and being the main hunter. Men were almost certainly responsible for hunting big game. Both men and women probably took part in fishing and trapping smaller animals. Protecting the band from predators and rival tribes, other stuff that would likely have been high status back then, would have fallen on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 05:19 PM
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I'm talking about a few decades ago, when women actually could and did support themselves (even if discriminated against) and did not need a man for basic survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:49 PM
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The attraction just switched off. As soon as it became clear a relationship was not feasible any level of desire just went away. Interesting. You're saying that if she were to strip naked you wouldn't have been attracted? If that's true it's your experience I guess but from what I understand that's not how most guys work. You realise females in that era did the bulk of 'providing' through foraging and when necessary hunting? I can believe that women foraged more. Hunted? No, unless maybe we're t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:48 PM
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It's a common slang term for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:46 PM
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It's just a clear example. Billionaires are a subcategory of society and one where men actually are swimming in choice so male behavior in that category can be a reasonable proxy for men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:45 PM
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A guy might care about your work and knowledge. The high status it brings just might not be as much of an attraction trigger for him as the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:44 PM
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Lizard brain is basically just saying "natural instinct." Just like men's lizard brains care far more about looks. Women also marry in the same class due to proximity and conscious choice. But that choice for both sexes is also driven by attraction. Men can choose to overlook the hot waitress 20 years younger if they can find a reasonably attractive partner in their own age and status range. However, women seem to have attraction to status that can make it harder to be attracted to lower status …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:16 PM
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The point of course is that billionaire are more likely to marry women with no social background than the other way. It's only logical in that they're doing what they're hardwired to do. That may not always be the most logical thing from a purely financial point of view given that they'll sometimes go after golddiggers who clearly only care about their money. They're doing it because as men they're biologically hardwired to go after good looks. Likewise, women are hardwired to go after status in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:13 PM
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Both sides make the decision but men are simply not biologically hardwired to care as much about status in the way women seem to be. Just like men often make decisions based on looks to a greater extent than women do. It's a decision based on feeling sexual attraction, and the attraction triggers are not the same across both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:54 PM
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Men largely made more than their wives throughout the past decades. It's obviously not true that men are turned off by making more to the extent that women are turned off by lower-status men. Why is "conditioning" always the explanation? As if these things just came out of nowhere and were dreamed up at random. Perhaps if something socially conditioned seems to be persistent maybe it's based on biology and not just conditioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:35 PM
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I think to a certain extent it is. How many billionaire women do you think would be willing to marry some middle class computer programmer who is perfectly stable but is far from a billionaire? Some would but I'd guess the percentage of wealthy men who'd be fine with such an arrangement is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:18 PM
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It depends by place I guess. I live in Israel, where you can travel the world quite easily even on unimpressive wages simply due to location. Were I ever to return to the US travel would be extremely difficult even with a much higher salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:13 PM
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You just made my point for me. You said she was attractive and ticked the boxes but broke it off due to different life stages. Did you lose sexual attraction to her or did you just realize that she wasn't what you were looking for and despite how attractive she was this simply was not going to work? Also, yes status can vary by country. When I say status I don't just mean in a strictly modern white collar sense, I mean anyone considered to have high status and showing indications of being an abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:01 PM
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I think women have an ingrained instinct to go after status that men don't. Even if far from universal or all-determining. Status of course varies. What was high-status 10k years ago is not what's high-status today, and what is high status varies by the circumstances of the place and social environment you grow up in. I suspect that many kids born into poverty are born to fathers who built status in the context of their rundown neighborhood who have multiple kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:58 AM
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I'm not saying that women are more illogical in this. Just that they seem more likely to be put off by a low status guy due to sexual attraction triggers and turnoffs that are ingrained. Just like a guy might turn down a girl who might otherwise be perfect for him because of insufficient looks (I've done that repeatedly).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:54 AM
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I didn't suggest that literally all older professional men preferred their peers. Just that the stats show marriage is still largely in the same socioeconomic bracket. In fact between the two men obviously have the greater average desire to go for a younger hottie, even if in practice it doesn't always work out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:48 AM
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Those problems are all solvable in ways that the sexual thing isn't without hard science. We have various solutions we can implement today regarding them but a key problem is going to need serious research. It needs more attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:57 PM
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It is a primary issue and no amount of platonic intimacy will make it go away. The actual solution to persistent male lack of sexual success with little hope of things changing is science. Turn them gay, turn off their sexuality entirely, or create some ultra-realistic experience far more immersive than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:44 PM
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Sure but a huge complaint is the sexual needs not being met, given the strength of the male sex drive. They'll only be truly satisfied once you give them an outlet they'll be happy with. Either make them gay so they can attend the famous gay orgies or some hyper-realistic simulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 01:16 PM
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enough ability to get their needs met by other men like women can with other women. That can only be achieved in full if science finds a way to change sexual orientation so unsuccessful straight men can be made gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:14 AM
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It's numerous things. The bots as well as the fact that they obviously suppress accounts. There's a reason that you typically get more likes when you first set your account up. Plus they're pretty ban happy to the point that people report getting banned due to malicious reports, and once you're banned from one app you're banned from all, effectively cutting you off from most of the mainstream online dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:14 PM
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That still doesn't mean we need a single company able to actively make it worse the way only a monopoly can. It won't be a carbon copy of the 2000s but it can still be a step up from today.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 08:09 PM
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No, 15,000 men wouldn't be kicked off, they'd have to wait their turn. This would give time to the other guys to find a partner before they could go onto the apps and actually have a much better experience than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:46 PM
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It wouldn't be like the 2000s but I think it would still be much better than now. Maybe there needs to be some additional regulation but I'm convinced that breaking Match's monopoly would already solve many problems by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 07:06 PM
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Dating sites used to actually work in the 2000s according to people who used them back then. Their business model may encourage keeping people lonely but practically, when there's actual competition, there's only so far they can take it. They wouldn't be screwing up the dating world as blatantly as they are now. I'm convinced that a ton of today's dating woes can be laid at the feet of Match Group systematically buying up the dating apps and making them shitty just as the importance of them in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:46 PM
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It would actually be quite simple. You just need to do some monopoly busting. That means you, Match Group. No more buying up every app and freely enshittifying the experience for everyone due to no competition while giving people the illusion of choice. I'm convinced that a lot of modern dating problems stem from this one company. It has to be made to sell off all its apps. You could even get individual countries banning Match Group from operating in their territory, which would financially pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:33 PM
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Or maybe the woman should pay alimony since she makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:24 PM
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No, it's because of jealousy. More plainly, because younger people are usually more attractive than older people. All the women he dates know what the deal is. They get to be with the Leonardo Dicaprio for a bit before he moves on to the next one. They have plenty of wealth and fame of their own. They're not grooming victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 04:10 PM
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Sure, you can see him however you like. But as a generalization it's pretty obvious. He was a heartthrob when he was young and it makes sense he still appeals to women of his generation. Plus he's rich and famous. He's pretty much as desirable as a man can get on the dating market. I can understand feeling for young women pursued by fat and broke dudes in their 40s and 50s. When it's Leonardo Dicaprio it's something else entirely, especially since he pursues high-status women. They very obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:47 AM
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He dates up to mid-20s. And they know exactly what they're getting into. They get a fling with Leonardo Dicaprio. These are rich and famous women. They're not naive girls. It's not like he's some sort of groomer seeking to trap them. It's pure resentment that a man of his stature only wants younger women and can get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:42 AM
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You can already see the reaction to the richest, most attractive men doing this with younger women. See how much hate Leonardo Dicaprio gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 05:26 PM
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Yes but it's their job to have to go find out who is attracted to them rather than the other way around, which complicates stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:02 PM
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That would work if it wasn't basically on the man to find out who is attracted to him and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:02 PM
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increased entitlement to women's bodies, the idea that women are sex objects, the dehumanization of women Nope, nobody cares about this standard scolding anymore. This is just slop with the usual buzzwords, particularly "entitlement", which is thrown around nonstop. It's just tiring at this point, you aren't going to convince anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:34 AM
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I'm 31. I'm not speaking about this from the perspective of an old man, I just know how male sexuality works and imagine how I'd think in the shoes of someone like that. From the way I can imagine it, losing your virginity as an old man might be a relief to some, but for quite a few guys I imagine might feel like sort of a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:17 PM
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Men care about looks a lot more than women do. If they only get to experience it at a time when people are less attractive, as well as when they're less horny, they will often still feel they missed out on something fundamental that no amount of sex while older would make up for. Some might not even bother if they finally get the opportunity when old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 01:50 PM
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Your lack of willingness to date educated women with careers will either leave you single or saddled with multiple dependents you actually cannot afford. It's not a "lack of willigness" so much as a lack of a requirement. When men say they don't care, it generally means they literally don't care. She could be a barista or a finance managing director. The only negative points regarding a professional career would be long hours. Some men might prefer a degreed career woman because he wants someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 12:36 PM
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Let me clarify. The Communists of yesterday were bastards but they were at least competent. The Soviet Union was a tyrannical regime that ultimately failed but at least it industrialized and won World War II. Today's leftists are some of the most pathetic human specimens to walk the Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:59 PM
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No, women can more easily do it because they have lower sex drives. That's literally it. Gay men can more easily be happily single because a lot of them can basically just go on Grindr and order up sex whenever they want. If straight men had those sexual opportunities, or if their sex drives declined to the level of the female sex drive, it would be extremely easy for them to be happily single.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:19 AM
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False accusations are only part of the story. There are cases where the woman is convinced a particular guy did it when he in fact was innocent. There have been cases of people actually getting convicted and going to prison based on testimony from victims who actually had suffered sexual assault but picked the wrong man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:14 AM
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Or maybe he just wants to date and is confused by the modern dating scene, so he naively expects the advice he asks for to actually help him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 11:30 PM
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Ok so the solution there may be to fudge your resume. Likewise, what's stopping a dude from lying about his inexperience?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:52 PM
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Ok so in other words it's just your personal standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:22 PM
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Normal people seek out romance from people who don't even know them all the time. That's literally what dating apps and sites are about. Most people have only so much of a social circle and can't reasonably limit themselves, plus if a guy does the route of "get to know her first" then the accusations of "you were only a friend to get in my pants" start to fly. Yes, normal, reasonable people understand that you need to interact with strangers to get romance. If it's not for you fine but if you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:19 PM
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No, in France from what I've read it's illegal to send it to a lab outside the country and you can be arrested if caught doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:55 PM
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Yeah after letting your wife know you suspect something and thus endangering the marriage. What's illegal is getting it on the sly, meaning if all's good she never knows. This basically forces men to risk breaking up their marriages every time they want to, making them less likely to do it. A man has to contest paternity, leading to probable divorce and the breakup of the family. No "peace of mind" testing allowed. And what if the judge says no? The French government has openly said that the ban…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:01 PM
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The natural libido gap is of course one thing. Beyond that, in pre-20th century societies, when every sex act was a potential pregnancy and there was little in the way of government assistance, and when there was no DNA testing so a man could not have full proof that a child was his, what kind of mores do you expect to arise? We're past that time now and in hindsight there may have been better ways but for most of human history people lived under pressures alien to us. It's good that it's all pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:00 AM
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If women collectively adopted this strategy then men absolutely would get into friendships with women with the hope of an eventual relationship. To think anything else is naive. And no amount of "you shouldn't be friends with the hope of sex" type shaming is going to work. If men somehow didn't, if they didn't change their habits, that would be the end of dating altogether. A lot of men have predominantly male friend groups or are friends with women they're not attracted to. If they did nothing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:56 PM
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“Having standards” is generally things like in shape, good career, nice teeth…not significantly younger than me Maybe from a woman's perspective, but not from a man's. Men will often have different standards due to innate differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:38 PM
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My point was that a male standard that is inconvenient is castigated. A disproportionate number of men have "young" as a standard but that's somehow unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:11 PM
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Except the standard is now that women's sexuality has free reign and male sexuality does not. Women are free to impose standards on height and income but apparently men having their own standards is "weird."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:59 PM
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Uh no there are more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:43 AM
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In this sub, literally a few posts up from this one, there's a detailed post going on explaining how men approaching women are akin to people in poor countries trying to suck up to wealthier people to get favors from them. This is the kind of messaging men have been constantly exposed to - approaching is unwanted, annoying, rude, and scary. So, what did you think was going to happen? This passivity wasn't always there. In numerous Western countries men have been told to be passive by the social …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:16 AM
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Blue pill means, from my understanding: “red pill is not accurate.” And the whole core of the red pill is that there is like a science to dating. And dating is somehow different then all other human to human social relationships. It is. How is choosing who you will have sex with anything like choosing who you will hang out with or work with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:10 PM
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Sex differences were much smaller, they didn't say they disappeared entirely. Maybe social pressure plays some role but the effects of testosterone are clear. Also I want to see the actual paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:34 PM
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This is a pile of nonsense. They said its not black and white but didn't show the averages for a very good reason. That it would immediately disprove it. Some women may have higher sex drives than some men but as a whole its clear who averages higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:29 PM
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They do. It's so obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:12 PM
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This is scientifically uncontroversial. I don't know how anyone can even deny it and expect anyone to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:05 PM
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Because if you expect to be approached rather than do the approaching, you can't seriously think only those attracted to you will do the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 10:54 PM
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Facepalm I'm sorry but do you really not understand? Of course women want to be approached by men they're attracted to. But if the expectation is that the man approaches, by natural consequence of that they will be approached by men they're not attracted to. There's no way to find out for sure if she's attracted to you than by approaching. How exactly are men supposed to know if she's attracted or not? Especially when signs that signal attractiveness and friendliness/acknowledgement are often th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:23 PM
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The thing to do if you don't want to donate your time is to politely say no, get assertive only if they don't take no for an answer, and otherwise go along with your day. If you consider male attention a nuisance, just remember that it's a natural consequence of the men-approach-first expectation, something women still mostly expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:18 PM
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To be honest, if women expect men to be the initiators (and they still mostly do), that's just something you'll have to deal with. If you want attention from attractive people, you're going to have to accept you may get attention from people you're not attracted to. Unless you want to ruin it dating for society as a whole, since dissauding them will mean they don't try with others who are attracted to them, if they aren't harassing you and politely leave, it's just something you need to deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:12 PM
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Nobody enjoys being "hassled". I love how you imply that an unattractive man by his temerity to even ask is hassling. If a man gets a pass from an unattractive woman, the proper thing to do is politely reject her, and only get mean/assertive if she doesn't move on. Not try to crush her ego and insult her for daring to even try so she never tries to find a man again. A man doing something like that would be widely decried as an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:06 PM
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There are lots of industrialized developed nations that are in trouble, but not all of them. Contrary to popular belief, the U.S., and some other western nations are going to become some of the most populous Only one developed country has an above replacement fertility rate. Israel, the one I live in. All together developed countries with population growth are primarily growing through immigration. you're also overlooking the rampant development of African, Central/South American, and SE Asian c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:49 PM
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Science is working on extending youth and health, not just life. Eventually reversing aging altogether is the goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 12:42 PM
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"Entitled" by this point has become a complete buzzword at this stage. 90% of the time most men will just roll their eyes when hearing it in arguments like these.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:14 PM
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The imagery of an 18 year old with her dads old mate having sex is extremely disturbing and feels violating as hell. Doesn't matter how it "feels" and how personally disturbing it is to anyone who isn't either of them. It's their business. They're violating no one. Also relationships of these nature aren’t always consensual and often involve coercion from the older adult. In those cases its bad. I'd like statistics about how "often" it happens. In any case, you're only presenting it as an 18 yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:36 AM
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The very reason people seek out relationships and sex is because we're wired for it, like animals in heat. And what is "morally reprehensible" is entirely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:14 AM
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Violating? So consensual sexual relations are now a violation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:13 AM
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The best way is a dating app that limits male registration to ensure parity or near-parity. You can have an account which is only allowed to be active during a set period of time, then its back on the waiting list.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:44 PM
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When did I say sidewalk? They were talking about what they viewed as socially appropriate places.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 09:57 PM
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Men have already been doing it less, leading to complaints of "why don't men approach anymore?" Men are expected to be the initiators, sure more and more women are doing it but there is still heavy pressure on men to initiate. You can't simultaneously harbor that expectation and then bash guys for doing it just because you don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 08:41 PM
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The two most important trends I see going into the future are: AI and robotics displace most humans from their jobs. This is still some time away, but the trends are there. The transition can be real messy, but eventually, 90% of people will be unemployed, with what jobs still being there all being compensated handsomely, so you essentially get everyone being essentially on the same level except for an upper class. Longevity. Scientists are seriously researching how to reverse aging. We may soon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 03:46 PM
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Many people are unhappy that unattractive men’s advances, when they cold approach, are considered creepy. This gets thrown around as if it was some sort of news or revelation of the female nature, or whatever. Can you explain why this dynamic wrong/unfair like I’m 5? If you're not attracted to the guy, reject him politely and don't be rude unless he actually acts creepy, is persistent, etc. Imposing social consequences on men when they approach someone who isn't attracted to them, when you expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:35 PM
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That really can't make your biological desires go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:25 PM
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But it does make you miserable when you have hormones screaming for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 04:15 PM
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Aside from the topic and all the argument in the comment section, it's really weird to see how many here are saying dudes in their 30s look old. To me that seems to be a huge exaggeration. A 30 year old guy will usually be indistinguishable from someone in his 20s. Once you get older and enter your 40s its hit or miss but a lot of people these days don't look particularly bad at 40 either. I'm 29 and I'd say most people would still have trouble guessing whether I'm in my mid 20s or 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 04:14 PM
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Except from the shaming men get for dating in a way that goes against the female imperative, such as Leo Dicaprio, you'd seem to think some women have ideas that it's men's job to have sex and relationships according to women's preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:28 PM
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100 years ago was 1923, not the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 09:00 PM
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Dating does get easier for men as they get older but that's because they tend to die younger. As people age the pool of available single men disproportionately shrinks further and further. Eventually you start seeing the supply and demand issue at work, men are hornier so in a dating pool with the two sexes largely equal there will be greater demand for women but eventually the thinning out of men shifts who is in more demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:41 PM
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I would prefer men approach me indirectly, through friends or family member. And if a guy has few friends or can't find anyone through that limited social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:05 AM
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As people get older, since men tend to die younger than women, men increasingly come to dominate the market. If you're a well put together man in your 60s and 70s you'll have your pick. I doubt anyone here is particularly thrilled at the idea though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:11 PM
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"Entitlement", only the most overused buzzword on this topic. Seriously at this point most of us just roll our eyes when we see that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:55 PM
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He should risk rejection, not fake accusations for no better reason than she wasn't attracted. Anyway, maybe if that's the case women should approach men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:50 AM
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First of all, if that's the case, stop telling men that their problem is how they do it and just be honest. This gaslighting of "it's how you do it, you were probably acting creepy" when men complain that they don't approach for fear of harassment accusations is ridiculous. Secondly, you have no right to make false harassment accusations against anyone. People approach each other all the time for things. If you don't like it, just say no, if they take the rejection and walk away, it's no problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 02:18 AM
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My point is to stop gaslighting dudes about this. Stop automatically assuming men are somehow acting inappropriately every time they tell you they don't want to be accused of harassment or being creepy. The cookie cutter response is always something like "if you don't know how to not be creepy you shouldn't approach" or "learn how to not sexually harass." Also it shouldn't be socially acceptable to shame people or accuse them of things like harassment for a polite approach and taking a rejection…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:58 PM
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That's not the complaint, the complaint is that guys who approach risk getting labelled harassers if she wasn't into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:53 AM
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The point is that people don't want to be called creeps and harassers for shooting their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 06:53 AM
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Add to that the eternal paradox: "Stop complimenting/approaching/flirting with us in public places, its creepy and intrusive. We have to put up with uncomfortable situations all the time." Short while later dude complains: "I don't approach, don't want to be considered to be creepy or a rapist." "iF yOu cAuSe pEoPlE tO bE uNcOmFoRtAbLe yOu oBvIoUsLy dOn'T kNoW hOw tO aPpRoAcH."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:21 PM
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If porn makes masturbation worse then why do people keep using it for that purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:36 AM
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Again proving OP's point. Which is why at this point most of us just roll our eyes whenever this argument is trotted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 11:03 PM
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Right and then look at all the reddit threads about how its creepy and violating to approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 02:13 PM
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They aren't going to care if that's the only way they get their foot in the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 08:12 PM
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I'm saying that lots of inexperienced guys will withhold that info to get that inexperience off their chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:34 PM
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They'll just hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:27 PM
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More whores, more men chasing them. ... and? That stuff (sex trafficking and forced prostitution) is already underground. And legalizing and regulating sex work would help fight it better. We already police based on morality, and always will. But morality is highly subjective. A lot of people don't think sex work is inherently immoral. Even the radical feminists use the "no one would ever sell sex willingly" line rather than claim its somehow just wrong independent of any real world harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:46 PM
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What tangible harm does it cause? Is it proportionate to the diversion of police resources, driving sex work underground that results in it being harder to stop sex trafficking and actual forced prostitution, and society getting the idea that its ok to police morality based on religious morality?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:33 PM
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Moralizing is banning stuff that doesn't actually harm society out of a subjective sense of morality. And I'm against wasting police resources in general, we should also stop having police do those useless things, not add more or just stop doing some useless things to focus on another useless thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:13 PM
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Sorry but that's a dumb reason. The default should be that anything not immediately harmful is permitted. Silly moralizing rhetoric does not outweigh people's right to make choices. Not to mention that banning something that doesn't cause harm causes a waste of police resources and drives sex work underground, which causes more harm to people who actually are trafficked/forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 05:07 PM
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I lean towards biology. If you're a woman answer me this. Assuming something like 60-70 percent of ordinary guys in the age range you'd be willing to date were looksmaxxed, would you find them attractive/consider them potential romantic partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 12:18 PM
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To a certain extent this is true. I'm currently doing my damndest to lose weight and put on muscle, so far its going well. However I do have natural advantages as well (I'm 6 foot 3 for one). Men could be more successful if they improved their looks. However, height is one thing they cannot control. Social skills are generally poor in this current generation, I'm not sure if they're solely to blame. However, women by nature are attracted to a lower percentage of men than the other way around. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 10:35 AM
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Potential power imbalances between partners is issue that deserves consideration, there is some caution to be had, but blanket statements that all relationships with the potential for such an imbalance are wrong/exploitative are the result of critical theory seeping into the Western left. When you embrace an ideology that sees everything in terms of "power structures" and "systems of oppression" you'll apply that to the dating world too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:23 PM
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Men who don't actively take care of themselves tend to age poorly. I'm currently 29, but I have good reason to hope I inherited good genes (my parents are in their 50s and 60s and aged well) and am doing my best to work out and get into top physical shape, I also hardly drink alcohol and mostly keep out of the sun so I have good reason to hope I'll look good. Also, I'm not sure if this is going to be as much of an issue as we get older. This has been brought up here before, including by me, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:17 PM
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Lol whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:03 AM
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What's "ok" seems to be entirely subjective these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:58 PM
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What's "too young" is entirely subjective. Sure a 60 year old isn't going to have too much luck with a 20 year old but people dating between their 30s and 20s isn't weird. If you're attracted to someone, there's nothing wrong with shooting your shot and walking away if the answer is no.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:50 PM
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Yeah and it doesn't matter. Don't like a guy because he's significantly older? Say no and walk away. Simple. Stop making it out to be borderline criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:33 PM
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Oh please, expressing attraction is not in any way harassment, even if it doesn't fit your standards. If you don't like a guy, simply reject him and move on. But if he just politely asked you out and didn't persist when you said no, that isn't harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:11 PM
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Not to mention that older guys can still look reasonably good, at least until they start getting really old. Some people apparently think a 40 year old is equivalent to a 60 year old. Part of it is simply luck of the draw, inheriting good genes. But if you work out, don't drink or smoke, and watch out for yourself you can look youthful for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 12:51 PM
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Yes, which is why I said those who date their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:56 PM
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You do, as people get older and men continue to disproportionately die it starts to show. Men in their 60s who are reasonably put together have a much easier time dating their peers than men in their 20s. And women are far likelier to complain about struggles in finding a partner at that age (in earlier decades its too much male attention).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:28 PM
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The future of dating in what age range? Dating for older men is typically better because men tend to die younger for various reasons and that continues to be the case today. Over time women begin to seriously outnumber men and the demand for single men outweighs the supply more and more. When the current generation of people in their 20s and 30s reaches middle age and beyond I don't see that changing. Of course how the dating dynamics evolve remains to be seen, but due to the gap in mortality ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:33 AM
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Limitations with age are dependent on how you've treated your body. Just look at Frank Grillo, dude's in his 50s, jacked, and could outperform most 20 year olds. If you lift, exercise, and generally treat your body right you'll look great and perform well for decades. Of course, given anti-aging research, I don't expect this to be a problem forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:50 AM
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That old legend about long-term couples in love dying within a few weeks of each other was true. Look at Coolio and the Queen. (ok stolen but still hilarious)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:48 AM
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IMO any decent dating app will have restrictions on male registration to ensure a fairly balanced sex ratio. Dating apps can still work, they just need to be geared towards actually matching people than raking in profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:48 PM
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Both. Get in the gym to get some decent muscle tone, then maintain a body fat level that will ensure a decent face and make all that muscle tone visible. Just dieting alone without any strength training makes you simply skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 08:36 PM
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"Go out on a few dates" - The issue is how to find those dates. That's the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 04:10 PM
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Many others would disagree. It's people's personal lives, you can advise them against it but assuming that every relationship like that is inherently predatory is asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:18 PM
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It's only "icky" in your opinion. It's a personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:09 PM
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So in other words you use "creep" as a term for "man I'm not interested in" even if he's not overtly displaying any actually creepy behavior. Thanks for confirming a key point red pill types often bring up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:42 PM
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Then don't date older men. It's that simple. It's not going to change the fact that these relationships will still happen regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:16 AM
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These comparisons are so silly, the difference is straight women presumably are interested in meeting men. And annoyingly men are still expected to be the approachers. If I was in a gay bar and got approached, I'd politely decline and explain I was a straight visitor. So long as the flirting ended I wouldn't care. I'd even find it kind of flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 12:33 PM
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Lol if he's a rapist for lying about his virginity then every woman who ever lied about her body count to a guy is also a sex offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:19 PM
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It's quite simple. If experienced women can hide their body counts, inexperienced men can hide their lack of a body count. Fair is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:18 PM
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I mean older men will also have their pick, and given that men tend to die earlier for a variety of reasons over time there would be less older men. Also pretty sure that when this happens automation will wipe out most jobs anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:57 PM
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I can't believe people actually think this. I mean some older men do date younger women for those reasons, but usually it just boils down to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:59 PM
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Uh, you do realize that men would also have aging reversed, right? So older men would also look like they're in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:57 PM
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I think this will happen, science is already researching this. And yes, pretty much this. The preference some older men have for younger women would go down real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:47 PM
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I think it depends what you mean by "older." A 5 year age gap is really nothing special, maybe when you're in your late teens it is but I don't see anything too odd about a couple where one is 30 and one is 25. A 10 year age gap may be more significant, but it depends on the age of both. A 20 year old dating a 30 year old isn't going to be looked at the same way as a 30 year old and 40 year old dating, and it goes down the older you get. Once you get into 20 year age gaps that's where the real d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:21 PM
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Interesting watching this from outside, I grew up in the USA but live in Israel, where abortions technically have to be approved by a government committee (which approves 98% of requests) but is de facto tolerated to a wider extent as no one who performs or gets an abortion outside this system is prosecuted to the best of my knowledge. Many European nations also have reasonable access to abortion but with limits. The debate in the US is comparatively wild, ranging from "it's not a human until it…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:19 PM
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Women are attracted to masculinity, confidence and assertiveness. As a guy you sholuld take the lead, be assertive, plan dates and obviously have the confidence to go after what you want and face rejection. OP's point is that Western society is increasingly imposing social costs that go beyond embarrasment if you screw this up. It's becoming less and less worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:36 AM
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When gender ratios are significantly skewed with women outnumbering men. Typically that happens as people get older since men tend to die sooner. I don't think casual sex is going to be as easy as it is for any young woman who wants it but as people enter their 50s and 60s men generally have a much easier time dating. Also in the aftermath of wars which kill a significant part of the male population, men pretty much have their pick. Nearly any man in Western Europe in 1919 or the Soviet Union in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:34 PM
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I actually posted a question like this a while ago. I've been following this for years. Anyway, what scientists are looking at is to reverse the aging process, so you won't just live longer as an old person, but to actually restore youthfulness. Also, LOL at the overpopulation claims. You realize that the global fertility rate is dropping and will go below replacement by mid-century or so, right? And immortality won't be an actual thing, as people die of a variety of causes, not just aging. Anyw…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 09:21 AM
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Yes, absolutely. We already have real world examples of this phenomenon, we don't have to speculate. After the Paraguayan War of 1864 to 1870 over 90% of Paraguay's male population was wiped out. The end result was mass polygamy with even Catholic priests encouraged to end their celibacy and occupying Brazilian, Argentine, and Uruguayan troops fathering a lot of the subsequent generations of Paraguayans. Even when we get to below 90% we can see something similar. See what it was like in Western …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/22 04:03 PM
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You may not "believe" in it but it happens. Such a marriage would be out of the ordinary but not unheard of, but I think OP was primarily thinking of doing it outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:37 PM
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His whole post is ego laden. He’s single because he has a huge ugly ego, being single doesn’t mean someone will necessarily have an ego. This guy does lol As if one of the core tenets of FDS isn't to have an amazing ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:10 PM
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Right, as if an FDSr would care for a man who treated them exactly like that but worked retail or was a trucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 03:00 PM
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I don’t think by making a certain amount and looking a certain way you’re automatically high value. So in other words "high value" basically means "whatever I think it means." Clearly, none of your relationships have worked out so they can’t be all that positive. Maybe check the ego and do some self reflection. Right only men have ego and have something wrong if they're still single in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:58 PM
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FDS poster, how surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 07:04 PM
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What u talkin bout? i is a man and i smarty! me no need no skool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 07:12 PM
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People tend to assume that you can just magically boost "status." They say "just get a high-paying career" as if you can do it with little effort. Fact is, most people will have mediocre careers and for a whole host of reasons you can end up in a low status job.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 11:49 AM
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The problem is with social double standards. Of course I don't begrudge anyone for their dating standards. The thing is, men are judged for their own standards much more harshly by Western wokesters. A man who wants to date a significantly younger woman or a thin woman will be judged far more harshly by the woke brigade than a woman who doesn't want to date a short or poor dude. That's before we get into the fact that men who face rejection are told "suck it up and move on" (which is actually co…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:29 AM
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I just remember seeing it I don't have it with me this second.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:39 AM
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I just remember seeing it I don't have it with me this second.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:39 AM
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I've literally seen this advocated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 02:31 AM
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I’ve never seen a “ How to trick a man” type of post on FDS. Except when it comes to stringing along a man and making him wait for sex while seeing another guy on the side and not telling him. Because that's the kind of stuff they advocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 01:24 AM
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Time for the Tor browser.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:37 AM
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Outsourcing has only contributed to a minority of manufacturing job losses.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:15 PM
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No they won't, thats not how it works anymore with the rise of AI. Already tons of manufacturing jobs were wiped out by automation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:11 PM
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My point is that the overall amount of medical staff needed will reduce. And that's just in a select highly complicated profession. The vast majority of jobs will end up going.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:00 PM
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Yes, there will be some people working as a backup to machines but the overall number of workers will decrease as there will be less demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:29 PM
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I challenge your idea the end of work is near on basis of all the previous industrial revolutions, which after bringing first a period of unemployment and misery soon after resulted in a plenthora of wealth and new jobs. It isn't like that. A lot of experts say its different this time. Previous such revolutions simply gave us technology to increase the productivity of the average worker. The demand for muscle went down but the demand for brains went up. When you have machines which can think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:02 PM
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Its actually closer than you think. Automation already eliminated lots of middle class manufacturing jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 07:20 PM
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It's simply far harder to "make it" in the Western world today than it was in the past. Advances in robotics and AI are automating away more and more jobs that could once let you have a middle class lifestyle without a college degree. Just wait until it comes after white-collar jobs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 02:17 PM
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I'm gonna guess you're Jewish lol And I live in Israel. And Palestinians don't because they're Arab's right? It's such an irony that the group of people being horribly persucuated for their religion/race end up doing the same to another group of people. Say's a lot about humanity imo. I've heard this spiel countless times, "oh how could you not learn from your history, you're doing what was done to you REEEE". It gets old. First of all, I never said the Arabs didn't deserve self-determination. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:50 PM
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Except the Jews who created Israel in 1948 didn't just show up out of the blue. As mentioned, Zionist settlement goes back to the 1880s (not to mention the pre-existing Jewish community). In 1948 most Jews in the land were either born in it or long-established in it. They had a perfectly legitimate right to self-determination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:23 PM
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Yeah and none of that was illegal under international law, just against British Mandatory law and domestic laws of countries where arms were illegally smuggled out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:00 PM
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So is prostitution and smoking weed. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 07:43 AM
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Israel wasn't created by the West so much as the Jews built it up and fought for independence. In fact the British were actually forced out by Zionist guerrilla attacks and Israel had to sneak in weapons past arms embargoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:14 AM
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Yawn, this again. Cite the international law that makes Israel illegal. Then learn some actual history, given that you apparently think that Israel was "given" to the Jews in the aftermath of the Holocaust (lots of people seem to have this bizarre idea). This conflict goes back to the 1920s. In fact Zionist settlement of the region goes back to the 1880s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:38 AM
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There was intel that there were enemy facilities in said building.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:35 AM
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Of those 200+ the majority were Hamas and Islamic Jihad operatives. Also, some of the civilians were killed by misfired rockets aimed at Israel which crashed into Gaza. The fact that so few of the dead are women is proof in and of itself that civilians aren't being killed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 05:33 AM
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?תודה רבה. איפה למדת עברית
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 12:10 AM
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Actually, it's not Bibi, it's a radical right-wing minority who actually annoy Bibi a lot of the time. Bibi is an arrogant, corrupt asshole who is currently trying to dismantle the Israeli judicial system to stay out of prison for corruption charges, but he is not the warmonger everyone thinks he is. He is actually a cautious politician who tries to avoid conflict (in 2014 he only sent the ground troops into Gaza because the General Staff basically forced him to). Sure he does hold right-wing vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:37 PM
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In this case the dispute was if the homes belonged to them. They'd actually been offered to be allowed to remain if they paid rent but refused and insisted the homes were theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:28 PM
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A minor property dispute is "ethnic cleansing" I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:26 PM
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So? This is just a far-right asshole. The settlers are a bunch of far-right nutjobs but there's no "ethnic cleansing" going on or anything like that. This was a court case with a long history of litigation regarding those houses and it spiraled into a clusterfuck because of rioting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:21 PM
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We aren't. This whole thing started due to a court case involving old Jewish property which was seized by the Jordanians in 1948. There have been decades of litigation over this. Of course emotions run high in a region like this so there was stone-throwing, the police reacted, and it spiralled out of control from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:13 PM
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It's sad. I think the left is right when it comes to economics but this obsession with victimhood and interposing American racial standards to places where they don't belong makes it hard. Guess it just shows how no one's ever 100% right on everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 10:07 PM
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Here in Israel the situation is getting more intense. Looks like we may as well be at war. I had to run from my apartment to shelter in a stairwell with neighbors twice after rocket sirens sounded. Seeing the way some elements of the Western left misunderstands the situation here and tries to impose it's narrative of "evil white supremacy" to conflicts that have nothing to do with it is really something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 09:54 PM
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Because that worked out so well during the Industrial Revolution and Gilded Age, when industrial cities were shitholes of pollution, crime, and endemic poverty because of cheapskate business owners. There is government overreach but government had to step in for a reason. Once the economy is upended I don't see how else people can make a decent living.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:51 PM
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The entire world will have to find some way to completely reorder our economy. We will have to ensure that there isn't mass starvation and ensure everyone can live fairly comfortably so that there are people buying what the robots are making. How that will look like I don't know. But what's coming is on the scale of the Industrial Revolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/21 01:16 PM
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A UBI in the current economic setup would leave "loser" men better off than now in the dating market, but they'd still be relatively unsuccessful in life, so men with jobs would still have an advantage. However, we are headed for everyone being dependent on UBI in the not-too-distant future. Robotics and AI are advancing fast and it's only a matter of time before most of us are put out of work. In the end almost everyone will be totally dependent on UBI with only a tiny number of people still ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 04:01 PM
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Maybe not forever though. Sooner or later scientists will likely figure out the secrets behind attraction and we could get actual therapies to change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/21 05:04 PM
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In places where it's illegal you can still pay an escort for "time" and not sex. And there's always taking a vacation to a place where it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/21 11:23 PM
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Yes and for that matter men will also be able to have kids without dating because artificial womb technology will likely have been perfected by that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 10:40 PM
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You realize that a "decent job" is out of the question for many Western youth today, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 09:15 AM
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In physical terms, while its naturally hugely varied so different women are attracted to different things, in general, and I again emphasize this is just a generalization and far from universal, being tall (something completely out of your control), having a lithe, muscular body, basically a swimmer's body, and relatively low body fat is attractive. It helps if you are genetically blessed with a nice face as well. That being said, female attraction triggers are different. Women can go from zero …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 08:10 PM
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Increasing the birthrate isn't much of a priority for two reasons. First of all, within the next 10-20 years, we are going to have to completely reorder our economy. Robotics and AI are advancing rapidly and they will displace most workers. In fact the current pandemic has only brought mass technological unemployment closer, investment in automation has skyrocketed. Eventually the majority of us will be out of a job and living on some version of universal basic income. Secondly, science is on tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:29 PM
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I'm no incel, I'm a history nerd whose head explodes on seeing inaccuracies and misunderstandings like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 11:01 PM
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Uh, Hitler was the most powerful man in Germany and he was revered, since the German people were fully indoctrinated into Nazi ideology. There's nothing strange about him having a hot girlfriend, he would have had his pick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 03:06 PM
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It's a biological drive, not conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:34 PM
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If they want to to. It's that simple. You realize that men wouldn't bother going through what it takes to find a partner if it wasn't for their sex drive, right? Apparently many women are willing to date down and put up with guys bad at homemaking because their desire for a partner outweighs the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:04 AM
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So could you explain what you mean when you said that a guy who dresses well, keeps good hair and skin, keeps himself in shape, and smells good is the opposite of what you find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 11:02 AM
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No, I think the concept is ridiculous unless it's for really serious stuff (like hiding an STD) but if so, let's make it equal. A man who lies about his career to get laid should only be arrested if a woman who lies about her body count is also arrested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 09:26 PM
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So you prefer sloppily dressed overweight men who smell bad, have messy hair, and dirty skin?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 08:43 PM
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Yeah no. Harassment is wrong but approaching people and asking them out is perfectly normal. If theyre dressed in such a matter it's logical to conclude they're open to being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 01:20 AM
1

And men are more prone to reckless behavior and risk-taking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/20 12:17 PM
2

Men die younger for a variety of reasons, not just old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 11:26 PM
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Except that men for a variety of reasons tend to die earlier than women as men are generally more prone to higher levels of risk-taking, suicide, workplace fatalities, and various self-destructive behaviors. So that could be balanced out by a sex ratio favoring men IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:48 PM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 06:04 PM
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Not forever, indefinetely. The idea being you can live indefinetely until something else (accidents, suicide, etc) kills you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/20 03:29 PM
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I'm not bitching I was pointing something out. My main question is what you meant by men no longer able to "use" women for sex in larger numbers. If both sides are consenting then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:16 PM
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First of all pretty much any loser can get laid via sex workers today (regardless of the law), secondly consensual sex isn't "using" anybody.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 10:09 PM
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26M going to be 27 soon. I hardly ever drink, like only on special occasions. And I don't smoke either in a country with a relatively high smoking rate. That's OK, I'll be one of the hot ones in another 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 11:48 AM
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Also even in countries where it's illegal, you just pay an escort for "time" rather than sex and officially it's legal, or go abroad and engage in sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:12 PM
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Looks do matter. Women do indeed care about things other than looks but they care more about looks than many would admit. Plus even if you do have great qualities to offer such as status and intelligence you still need to show it, and looks are a great foot in the door so she'll be more willing to get to know you. Not saying it's impossible, all things considered it's easier for an ugly man to get an attractive woman than it is for an ugly woman to get an attractive man, far easier I'd say, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 10:13 AM
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Not too many men will be shocked that looks matter. However, you find a lot of stuff online, including in reddit threads, about how women actually barely care about looks at all, it's basically all personality with looks as an afterthought. Read too much of that and you may be in for a sobering wake up call.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 10:58 PM
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Time. Men naturally get an advantage as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 05:41 PM
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This applies to both, you just automatically assume it's men. It even says that sex among hetero couples declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 10:20 PM
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Except how are people supposed to meet partners if they don't find people who are unknown to them attractive and then initiate/get to know them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 06:56 PM
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I was mainly thinking of countries that adopted the Swedish model of criminalizing buying but not selling. Hasn't stopped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 09:08 AM
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So far criminalizing all johns has been a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:49 PM
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So what made rape reports go down when it was legalized?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:23 PM
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Taken directly from said study: "We propose another regulatory policy: a combination of legal, strictly regulated and intensely monitored brothels with—and this is crucial—severe criminal penalties for johns who buy sex elsewhere. Our analysis suggests that this policy can simultaneously safeguard voluntary prostitutes and minimize trafficking." Is this what you support? Do you even take the time to actually read what you're posting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:20 PM
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And as I said, less reported rape is an indicator of less rape. Or do you think rape rates magically go up while reporting goes down after a barrier to reporting is removed? There is actually a wealth of evidence legalization does more hArm than good and only anecdotal or isolated studies proving the opposite Then why have I found a bunch of studies and you've found only one?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:10 PM
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You posted a single piece of evidence and, either through ignorance you didn't know you were repeatedly posting the same thing from different articles, or you were being deliberately deceptive and trying to make it look like you had more studies than you did to prove your case. There's a wealth of evidence that legalizing it does more good than harm. And then there's the simple fact that it's not the government's business to regulate what you can and can't do with your own body. Yes, there's les…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:03 PM
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No, I want it to be heavily regulated. You say there won't be "less rape" without proof when I've shown multiple sources that there will be. In any event it's about simply recognizing reality. Sex work is still going on despite criminalization. You can't seriously catch all or even most clients. It'll keep going on despite attempts to ban it. So why not regulate it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:56 PM
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I already mentioned it. I know the difference. Decriminalization means legalization of selling but not of buying, legalizing means buying. As I said, in a lot of cases the effect is the same. Because sex workers then have to find ways to work under the nose of law enforcement to ensure their clients get caught. You've so far only posted a single study (with multiple articles citing the same study) that it decreases sex trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:49 PM
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You posted three articles citing the same exact study. I'll need more than one study to be convinced. Anyway from the stuff I posted: "Human Rights Watch has consistently found in research across various countries that criminalization makes sex workers more vulnerable to violence, including rape, assault, and murder, by attackers who see sex workers as easy targets because they are stigmatized and unlikely to receive help from the police. Criminalization may also force sex workers to work in uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:42 PM
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You also posted a bunch of opinion pieces and standard news articles via The Hill and WNG and the Independent. Seriously, the Independent piece you cited was by Julie fricking Bindel, and I'm supposed to take that seriously? The stuff I posted was based on actual research.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 07:09 PM
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Already been tried around the world. Some countries have laws banning buying but not selling sex. Hasn't stopped it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 06:24 PM
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https://harvardcrcl.org/to-protect-women-legalize-prostitution/ https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/08/07/why-sex-work-should-be-decriminalized https://www.vox.com/2015/8/18/9166669/why-legalize-prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 06:24 PM
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Except banning prostitution just increases human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:09 PM
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Except regulation reduces humna trafficking, bans just increase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:04 PM
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So the Netherlands and Australia are living hells for women and children. Got it. Get real. Legalization reduces human trafficking. It's been proven over and over again. It's not even about access to sex or anything like that, prostitution bans just flat don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:04 PM
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Legalization reduces sex slavery and trafficking. It's been conclusively proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 12:03 PM
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FDS is designed to serve the female interest and imperative in dating, at the expense of men. Men dating younger women, particularly successful men who actually have a chance (AKA the ones they classify as "HVM") further distorts the dating market to older women's disadvantage. Sure some men have a desire to be controlling or other issues, but lots of perfectly decent men are in relationships with younger women. The idea that every man dating a younger woman is some sort of abuser is ridiculous.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 09:59 AM
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Then why do women complain when men they don't like approach them and say how tired they are of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/20 03:21 PM
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It's more directed toward societal standards than individuals. It's OK to Shame men for going for what they want but not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:58 AM
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The only issue is that women the age of the men you're going after are shaming you for it. And those of you who are single later on will be shaming men in your own age bracket for going for younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:57 AM
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Even in places where it's illegal there's an easy workaround. Going to an escort and paying for time rather than sex officially, tee hee. Or just going somewhere where it's legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 06:17 PM
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Again what we have here is a fundamental misunderstanding of all this. Men do indeed often care about a woman's job or intelligence but it's not out of sexual attraction, it's out of knowledge that the relationship would be likelier to succeed. But the woman has to have physical attributes to attract him. What men mean when they say this is that they don't view it as inherently attractive in and of itself. Women are hardwired to be sexually attracted to hardworking men or men of high status. To …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 07:14 PM
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That's not what I meant. Women are instinctively attracted to status and success. Call it golddigging if you want, it's just biology. The main issue is that while men may consciously choose to pursue women of high status, they are not hard wired to be attracted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 02:02 PM
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I think people misinterpret this. Guys do care but in an abstract sense. Like for example if a woman is attracted to a man but knows for whatever reason it won't work, she'll still reject him despite the attraction. Men can consciously choose to date highly educated women with successful careers. However, women are hardwired to find signs of status and wealth sexually attractive. That means if a man doesn't have the physical attributes to attract her, he still might be able to with success in hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:06 AM
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Who says sex workers don't consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 07:25 AM
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They aren't anymore shallow than we are. I'd say even less, since women do care about looks but we obviously care about them more. Personality, intelligence, and social status are attraction triggers with women more so than with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 02:11 PM
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A lot of Middle Eastern populations are fairly light skinned. It's a common myth that this is a region of just brown people. Though here in Israel many people like me are Ashkenazi Jews so we have noticeable European ancestry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:26 AM
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Those who do take care of themselves have it good. Luckily for me I have barely touched alcohol and never smoked in my life and have fairly limited exposure to the sun, and this in a Middle Eastern nation with heat like you wouldn't believe and an appallingly high smoking rate and active bar scene. I'm going to be one of the hot ones in 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:02 AM
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What about a dual citizen?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:49 PM
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Men aren't about to accept the female imperative any more than women will accept the male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 09:35 PM
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Laws against prostitution should be relaxed not over any of this but because banning consenting adults from deciding to pay for sex is fucking stupid. Plus prostitution bans just increase human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:13 PM
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Men get the advantage as they get older. The marketplace shrinks for women over time, in part due to the fact that men die earlier. The problem, of course, is that a lot might resent having missed out on it in their prime and having a pick of partners more sexually experienced than them. Then there's sexbots. I don't think it'll create the world that incels/MGTOWs are fantasizing about, where any woman over 20 suddenly loses value, but it will massively impact the dating lives of people in their…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:42 AM
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If everyone consents who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 07:37 AM
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I mean mean kind of experience the same thing as they get older if they decide they'd rather have a younger woman over someone they're own age. Of course it's not to the same threatening level as women experience but at the same time, when you have women showing blatant entitlement in complaining about how men their age are so shallow and evil for ignoring women in their age range in favor of hot young women there are similarities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 11:09 AM
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I disagree that everyone is entitled to sex but I agree that everyone absolutely should be held to the same standards. My problem is that men are criticized for their standards far more and women who lose out in the dating game are viewed with far more sympathy. Men are at a disadvantage in their youth, and it's no big problem if they don't have girlfriends because they dont have much to offer. But then as people get older women are the ones more likely to lose out, and suddenly men are evil bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:11 AM
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A lot of men probably will. It isn't just gross and creepy men, a lot of relatively normal men get frustrated with dating in their 20s. What is gross and creepy in your view anyway? I also think a lot of old guys will prefer them to women their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/18 05:32 PM
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Nope. Israel doesn't have women in combat like you think. Practically all female combat soldiers are assigned to two light border protection battalions.
/r/MensRights12/05/16 04:52 PM
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Your father refusing to pay child support is one thing, but I'd find it ridiculous for them to come after him after you and your siblings are already grown adults, and demand he pay child support - which is supposed to go into paying for raising children. Penalize him to set an example all you like, but I don't see the point in making him pay "child support" that's obviously not going into raising children (unless to pay back the government if they stepped in). And make sure any financial demand…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 10:00 PM
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Why the fuck is back child support a thing? Punishing someone for failing to follow a court order is one thing, but this is basically demanding you give money to the mother, ostensibly for raising a child, who just happens to already be grown up, which is no longer needed for raising the child.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 02:24 PM
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Does that mean there are actual plans in place, waiting to be announced in case the sub is threatened, or that they will be hastily drawn up in case of such an occurrence?
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:41 AM
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Above all, we should blame a justice system that allows convictions based on the testimony of a single witness. How is that, by any stretch of the imagination, beyond a reasonable doubt?
/r/MensRights17/05/15 03:35 AM
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It goes without saying what the reaction would have been had the genders been reversed.
/r/MensRights01/05/15 03:56 AM
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To be honest, our justice system considers it acceptable to let some guilty people go in order to prevent a single innocent from being punished. Punishing false accusers will result in far fewer innocents potentially facing prison. In my opinion, even if it does deter some rape victims from coming forward, it's worth it to keep more innocents out of prison.
/r/MensRights06/04/15 04:15 AM
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It's not worth the bad publicity it gives us, which probably makes people conclude we're bigots and thus blinds them to even the legitimate issues we raise. Most people who don't really know much about the MRM, won't see it the way you do, it'll automatically make them conclude we're a bunch of misogynists. If you want to bust the "men bad women good" stuff, leave it to r/pussypass.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 08:38 PM
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It makes our cause look bad. If not involved in the MRM is browsing through this subreddit and sees a title like that, how do you think they'll come to perceive the movement? Maybe it is about double standards, but the average person who happens upon this sub won't see it that way. It means more people will think us as bigots and probably costs us potential members. I think it best if these threads were not constantly posted here.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 08:33 PM
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Seriously, these "woman-bad" threads, where someone shows something bad a woman did that in no way relates to men's rights, make us look awful.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 10:59 AM
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I'd like to remind you all heaping praise on Melanie McDonagh that she's also the author of this.
/r/MensRights24/03/15 05:40 PM
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How would the teachers know what you've been doing online? From what I know, only the administration would have access to your computer use. And what do you mean by experimenting?
/r/MensRights12/03/15 05:26 PM
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It should go both ways. IMO, the age of consent needs to be lowered in many states. Many states in fact already have the age of consent set at 16.
/r/MensRights30/10/14 05:01 AM
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As Gandhi said, "first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win". When the MRM started out, it was almost totally unknown, and pretty much ignored. In recent years, as it's gained in strength, it's taken a ton of insults. MRAs have been dismissed as idiots, whiners, and losers who can't get laid. I think we're now moving into the fight stage. We've already seen serious attempts by feminists to censor MRA sites as hate groups. Feminists have seriously harasse…
/r/MensRights22/01/14 05:40 AM
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I see your point, but think for a minute about how this looks to the average observer. If a person is somewhat interested in the movement and wants to check it out, all they have to do is see a thread like that and conclude that we're bigots out to make women look bad. It probably puts off tons of people who otherwise might become sympathetic to us, and provides ammo for feminists.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 07:49 AM
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I really don't like these "woman bad" threads. Posting stories like this makes us look like bigots. How does this have anything to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights21/01/14 03:55 AM
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The Obama administration threatened to cut off Federal funding to any university or college that did not implement this "preponderance of evidence" standard. In other words, the US government has created kangaroo courts where defendants are denied due process. http://www.stanforddaily.com/2012/05/21/op-ed-against-the-preponderance-of-evidence-standard/ (Take note that this article is from a guy who still supports other aspects of unfair rape laws, such as denying a rape defendant the right to co…
/r/MensRights15/01/14 08:50 PM
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As a fervent anti-socialist - welcome! Our movement HAS to be diverse. Because the MRM is beyond politics or economics or who is the better president or prime minister of this or that. It's about justice, and about fighting gross injustices taking place in the world today.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 07:37 AM
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But there are plenty of people who are perfectly willing to act immorally for some benefit or desire. Women, as it stands now, face minimal and in many cases no legal or social penalties for false rape accusations, so if they want to falsely accuse a man, they have much to gain and little to lose. It's not as it every woman is waiting to finger a man who slept with her as a rapist, but it happens far more often than feminists would like to realize, and it's a real but all too often ignored menac…
/r/MensRights02/01/14 09:36 AM
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And as "testosterone-damaged women".
/r/MensRights02/01/14 09:14 AM
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Oh look, roninz's profile is now deleted.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 12:34 AM
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0.1/10 Horrible try. Next time you troll, put a little more effort in it if you want anyone to take you seriously. And I see how you voted down those two other comments pointing your trolling out.
/r/MensRights31/12/13 12:20 AM
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You should be convincing to get 2nd degree too. The whole way the justice system is supposed to work is guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 07:17 PM
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What does this have to do with men's rights?
/r/MensRights06/12/13 03:07 AM
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From what I understand, this is actually not normal practice in Israel, where a small but growing number of parents actually don't circumcise their children, and to my understanding, face no legal penalties. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4316641,00.html This particular incident happened because the parents are going through a divorce, and the rabbinical court has authority in this case. Basically, a bunch of rabbis are judges, and the rabbinical courts have a lot of power. For exampl…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 11:57 PM
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The problem is the age of consent. It should be lowered to 15. It's wrong to send people to jail for consensual sex with someone who is not a little child anymore, and who clearly understands what they are doing. I don't have a high opinion of anyone who would sleep with a 15-year old, and think it's utterly cringe-worthy, but not prison-worthy. Note that the age of consent in California used to be 14, and the reason that it got raised was because a lot of teenage girls got pregnant and the stat…
/r/MensRights25/11/13 06:42 AM
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I think that there are a few lessons that need to be learned here. In response to all the questions asking whether police in the USA are allowed to lie to you, YES, they absolutely are, and they regularly use it as part of interrogation. Police are actually trained in techniques to get confessions which include outright lying. And they will sometimes lie in open court to get a conviction on someone they're certain is guilty. They call it "testilying", and it happens all the time, and it often wo…
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:24 PM
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So she got a minimum of 14 years plus 2 months, and a maximum of 18 years. If the genders had been reversed, the man would have likely gotten either the death penalty or life without parole.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:53 PM
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Link please? We need evidence.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 08:49 PM
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Let me just start off by saying that you're a better person than I am. Had that been me, I would have demanded a paternity test and walked out if the results proved negative. I'm sorry, I really am sorry for you, and can only hope that you'll see your son again someday. Stories like this are outrageous, and prove just how little society cares for men or their feelings. "No reason"? You were the kids father! Courts regularly force non-biological fathers into child support on grounds that they act…
/r/MensRights20/11/13 02:55 AM
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Just think about this for a minute, people. If you've been a loving father figure, a judge can force you out of the child's life even if your name is on the birth certificate. Yet, men who are not the father but on the birth certificate can still be forced into "child support". And under I think the Presumed Fathers Act, I think a man can even be forced into child support if he knowingly takes a child that is not his and raises it as his own for a set period of time.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 02:52 AM
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Just imagine the outcry if there was a male-only anything.
/r/MensRights15/11/13 12:15 AM
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Doesn't mean they should be. And that's what's wrong with the way DV laws and policies often work these days.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:04 PM
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No, I don't want to beat anybody up, but if someone ever attacks me, I don't care if they're weaker than I am, I'll fight back.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:24 PM
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They would deserve it. Seriously, it's not your problem if you hurt somebody more. If they are the aggressor they deserve to be punished.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 09:18 PM
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Self-defense is not excessive force.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 03:28 PM
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So it's OK for women to hit men and cause them harm, but if a man defends himself and causes more damage, it's wrong? Under that logic, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States had no right to respond, because it was bigger and more powerful. Self-defense is an inherent right. If you don't want to get hurt, don't hit in the first place.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 01:01 AM
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Except that those laws aren't fair to men. What you're basically saying is that we must put women's welfare above men's, that to protect women we must endanger men, that to pay the debt to Peter we should rob Paul. Basically, to stop rape, you're advocating doing something even worse to innocent men. And thanks to the travesty of DV laws like VAWA in the West, women can screw men and drive them from their homes at a whim, and men are not believed even though women commit more domestic violence (…
/r/MensRights13/11/13 11:27 PM
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So to protect women, it's OK to strip away legal protections from men? Because some men rape (or make rape jokes), it's OK to subject every man to the possibility of prison on a mere accusation? No matter how bad the situation is, what you're advocating is atrocious. You're basically saying that to keep women safe, we need to oppress men. What I find most terrifying is that you advocate all this in favor of "deterring" rapists. But why stop there? If it's acceptable for one crime, what's to stop…
/r/MensRights13/11/13 09:38 PM
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I'm sorry, but it's indefensible to advocate locking up innocents just to catch more of the guilty. Any civilized justice system operates on the premise that it's better to let many guilty people go than to punish a single innocent person. What you've done so far is advocate a suspension of men's human rights just to catch more criminals against women. Basically, you're advocating male disposability. I find it hard to see how you "support men's rights" as you've claimed.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 06:48 PM
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So it's OK to risk locking up innocent men to lock up more rapists. In other words, throw out legal protections people are normally supposed to enjoy in court, deny the right to a fair trial, which is supposed to be the right of anyone accused of crime, as a way to fight crime. Just think for a second and imagine how it would be like if this was the same for all crimes, if the government thought that it was acceptable to lock up lots of innocent people as a way to fight crime.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 03:28 AM
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This may have been devised as a way to keep the family courts and divorce industry active, but it won't work. As one commentator so aptly put it, all it'll do is enslave another batch of men and then a cohabitation strike will start.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 04:46 AM
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