KaliYugaz Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
0	The Red Pill makes Mikuru cry.		KaliYugaz	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/14 01:33 AM

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1	If the red pill isn't based on science and facts, well, what the fuck is it based on? Incorrect, you don't identify as marxist probably because of how it is perceived by most people. No, it's because Marxism as an economic ideology and a revolutionary movement is different from Marxism as a mode of social analysis. A fat lot of good your degrees did you, because you obviously don't seem to understand the difference. How on Earth does pointing out that markets don't explain all human behavior mean that I oppose capitalism, believe in the labor theory of value, and/or desire a work…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 08:06 PM
1	If the red pill isn't based on science and facts, well, what the fuck is it based on? You mean like believing that all women are mental children who are sexually attracted to emotional abuse? I'm not even a Marxist, and you clearly don't know what that even means. But as misguided as communism is, at least it's not an embarrassing load of morally degenerate, logically contradictory garbage borne out of sexual frustration and testosterone-addled rage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 07:16 PM
-2	If the red pill isn't based on science and facts, well, what the fuck is it based on? I've seen that paper; it's pretty much the only one of its kind. It's also wrong, because its central hidden assumption that capitalist market economies are a human universal that can be used to explain everything humans do is false. For instance, the ancestral environment of humanity within which we evolved had no markets. Foraging societies share all the resources they collect amongst their tribe, have no concept of personal property, and mate whenever they want. The idea that a male hunter-ga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/15 02:27 PM
1	Hypergamy not found in large representative sample study of young relationships, average age of females 22, average age of males 24 (2014) Well then you have an interpretation of this evidence that is completely at odds with everything we know about the social organization of historic societies and prehistoric foraging cultures. Something has to be wrong. Edit: On second thought, the fact that the "dip" coincides with the invention of agriculture makes me suspect that the nature of semi sedentary horticultural-foraging tribes specifically (like the Yanomami) was highly violent, polygynous, and patriarchal, as theorized by several a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 03:42 AM
1	Hypergamy not found in large representative sample study of young relationships, average age of females 22, average age of males 24 (2014) And like I said before, its difficult to imagine 16 other guys... standing around while one guy did all the reproducing. What kind of scientist are you again? Because that's not how any of this works, since there's no evidence that such large harems were the norm with historic or prehistoric humans. All you need is a slight amount of polygamy (which we know humans have historically done) over a long period of time to weed out enough male lineages to create a disproportionately large effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/15 12:37 AM
1	What do you think about this article? Boingboing: "A beginner's guide to the Red Pill" Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 08:05 PM
3	What do you think about this article? Boingboing: "A beginner's guide to the Red Pill" The original government that the American Founders set up was pretty much on point, IMO. President chosen by the Senate, Senate chosen by state legislatures, and only Representatives chosen by the people. Sure, voting was restricted to landowning white males, but despite the racism, sexism, and classism, it made sense at the time because they were the only people likely to be reasonably educated (I think it would be better if only the educated were allowed to vote today, as long as education is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 05:59 PM
1	What do you think about this article? Boingboing: "A beginner's guide to the Red Pill" I don't think there has ever been a time that giving ordinary people/populist movements anything more than slight control over the political process has led to anything good. It is human nature to respond to adversity by forming into mobs to violate the rights of people they hate, and the only thing standing in the way of this chaos is a government with a monopoly on the legitimate use of force that is resolutely dedicated to securing the blessings of liberty for all. I know Reddit hates politic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 04:11 PM
2	What do you think about this article? Boingboing: "A beginner's guide to the Red Pill" The article is talking about a demographic and political bloc, not a consistent ideology. Just like how conservative Republicans consist of particular racial and socioeconomic demographics and have a collection of different beliefs and attitudes that are common to them, this new tech-based right wing also consists of a particular demographic (White and Asian STEM workers) and tends to holds particular attitudes and beliefs (anti-minority, anti-feminist, anti-government, atheist, pro-free market)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/15 02:52 PM
10	Rpers, what do you think of this relatively recent study on men and women's behavior with regards to dating, selection, and casual sex? I like how he's supposedly unwilling to spend his precious Sunday afternoon reading a bit of academic research to improve his knowledge, yet is perfectly willing to spend it fruitlessly arguing in support of a delusional hate-group ideology with strangers on the internet. Can you believe people like this are allowed to vote? Hah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/15 11:04 PM
2	#YesAllCats Wow. The status of cats in Japan has come a long way since the days of the shamisen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/14 07:21 PM
1	Did we create the STEM gender gap in the USA by lowering expectations for females with the simple idea that males are better at it? People generally do what their culture and peer group expect them to do. In developing Eastern countries like Indonesia, both men and women in the middle class are expected to be educated in lucrative STEM fields that bring wealth and social prestige to them and their families. If you don't succeed, it is humiliating for you and everyone associated with you, and ultimately the threat of shame and ostracization matters more than any "aptitude". The STEM gender gap is wider in the US because the c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/14 01:00 PM
2	In terms of game theory, what would happen if red pill ideas became mainstream? Well then basic self-improvement, without any of the rest of TRP, works exactly as well as TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/14 12:36 AM
2	In terms of game theory, what would happen if red pill ideas became mainstream? Yet, militaries can learn from their past successes and from the past successes of others. Only very selectively and only after fully understanding the context of the particular battle being studied. Since the world changes all the time, what can be learned from the past does in fact shrink as time goes on. It's not a good thing for your generals to be completely prepared to fight the previous war. Except that no-one is asking for such advice. Similarily, no-one is asking for success with all wo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/14 11:52 PM
10	In terms of game theory, what would happen if red pill ideas became mainstream? There is no comprehensive theory guaranteed to get you success with women. That's like asking for a guaranteed theory for winning the majority of wars. Warfare is too complex to reduce it to a universally workable algorithm, as each conflict is subject to different strategies based on terrain, climate, intelligence, resources, situation, technology, skill, preparedness, alliances, type of conflict, and unpredictable chance events. The most that can be done for someone who asks for advice for win…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/14 01:55 AM
7	Treating women like children Some anthropologist found evidence that women are kept as pets in primitive hunter-gatherer societies and someone speculated that explains why women enjoy BDSM and humiliation so much. Citation needed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/03/14 02:12 AM
0	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? A lot of women are more happy to be sharing a very high value male than to have exclusive access to a low-value male. I'm pretty sure this is a myth, at least in anywhere other than the very small poly subculture, the bar/club scene, and societies where men have access to most of the resources. Other than that, there is no reason to believe that mating is anything other than assortative, just like a job market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/14 04:33 PM
1	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? OP asked if the law itself, as an institution that wrote rules and enforced them, was manipulative. It certainly can be if the laws are designed to mask bad behavior and keep people oppressed, but this is not necessarily the case and so legal systems are not inherently manipulative.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/14 12:06 AM
0	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? A lot of red pillers that I read about have girlfriends who seem to need constant "gaming" and exhausting "frame maintenance" to keep them around, and the men themselves don't trust the women and live in paranoia of her hopping on someone else's dick. Even if the girl is hot, that kind of relationship definitely isn't worth the struggle. Other people I read about on TRP seem to think that PUA is magic and are obsessed with getting hot girls who are simply not into them. Then when they fail, they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 11:48 PM
1	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? But it's not inherently manipulative. It's just being decided and enforced by bad people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 11:34 PM
1	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? I don't know enough about your life to corroborate that. Many RP relationships seem outwardly fine but are internally miserable. A good example is the whole "maintain frame" thing, which, if you really have to do that all the time, is a sign that you are with a toxic person. And don't get me started on the experiences of the women. But if you are both genuinely compatible, then that's great. You have both found what you personally want on the sexual market, which in my opinion, is the whole poin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 05:11 PM
2	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? This wasn't easy Yes, but the returns there are worth the struggle. A a hot trophy girlfriend who isn't really into you, who you fundamentally don't respect or trust, and who you can never open up to simply isn't worth a struggle. Of course you can always convince yourself that it is through clever existentialist rationalizations, but that is just self-delusion. The truth is that if you are bitter enough in life to join the red pill, then you aren't doing something right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 04:56 PM
2	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? The only things worth having are a struggle. Struggling for its own sake is a pretty stupid philosophy. You're just struggling hard and accomplishing little.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 03:51 PM
4	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? I'm not a woman. If you have to struggle, you're doing it wrong? I wouldn't say you are doing it wrong, just that there's probably a smarter and more efficient way to do it, or that your desires aren't exactly optimal for you. Struggling too hard to meet the standards of a desired woman or group of women is basically "oneitis". There are other women, you know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 03:14 PM
6	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? I'm just like everybody else- I don't care about getting laid. I care about getting laid by sexy. First off, I don't know what you consider to be sexy. Regardless, that pool of sexy women will only go for a pool of men that they consider to be sexy, so if you are one of those men, you still shouldn't be facing so much competition. Again, the issue is probably that you aren't one of those men and/or your preferences are directed towards the wrong women. Either you can become the man desired by yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 02:59 PM
5	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? Nope. I'm just telling you the truth. Most people don't believe in nonsense like dread game and inherent female inferiority, but they still get laid. If you are having that much trouble, then either your standards are too narrow or something is wrong with your fundamentals (out of shape, not interesting, socially clueless, etc.).	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 02:37 PM
4	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? At the end of the day, mating is a very competitive market This is called a scarcity mindset. It is a self-defeating belief. There is a male for every female, so finding a partner shouldn't be that competitive unless your standards are absurdly narrow, or you yourself aren't a good catch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 02:29 PM
7	Define "manipulation" and, when is it wrong and when is it right? The difference between persuasion and manipulation is the presence of lies told with abusive intent. The law is not inherently manipulative, government institutions are forthright about the fact that laws are there to structure society for the collective good, and if they aren't, they can be changed. Confidence is not manipulation, it is a character trait. Makeup and expensive suits are generally used to conform to social expectations. They can, however, be used to show off wealth and beauty tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/14 02:12 PM
3	"What Will We Concede To Feminism": UPDATE This is all true. I'm just saying that the radfem anti-housewife argument does have reasonable points, and is basically equivalent to the free rider problem. Women are the group, womens' rights is the collective good that they want, and housewives (or really any woman who accepts a position with considerably less power and influence than her potential allows her to achieve) are the free riders, who enjoy the benefits of equality without paying the cost of working to accrue power and influence. I…	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 06:55 PM
0	"What Will We Concede To Feminism": UPDATE Just to play the devil's advocate here (I'm no radfem), consider another viewpoint: The equality of any population is related directly to the amount of political, social, and economic influence that they control in the society. People are selfish, so if you don't have leverage, you will be exploited by others; that's how reality works. Housewives have little to no social influence outside their limited circles, no political influence beyond mere voting (which is a rigged game anyways in our curr…	/r/MensRights	03/07/13 06:12 PM
1	To /r/feminism: here's what's wrong with reddit As someone who's both a feminist and an equalist Equalist? What are you talking about!? Bending is the most awesome thing ever!	/r/MensRights	27/07/12 02:21 AM