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Conversation starts and talking ends.
/r/seduction04/05/13 05:24 PM
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Well I guess the best tip to give you is that people love love love to talk about themselves.
/r/seduction20/12/11 07:51 PM
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"I'm about to move into a new apartment, but my friends are afraid I'll get lonely if I don't have a pet. Should I get a cat or a dog?" Is a bad opener in my opinion. It sounds rehearsed and is completely transparent, it's all about you and it has some bad undertones too: a change in circumstances that's lead to you now being alone, a need for company, friends who are concerned about your loneliness but not enough to discuss pet choices. If you're going for this kind of approach, try to appear m…
/r/seduction20/12/11 06:10 PM
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Though not technically a book, I really like the book of pook, it has some interesting ideas and theories whether or not you agree with his conclusions.
/r/seduction17/12/11 06:02 PM
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I eventually took her home, and made a pact that if she stalled getting out of my car If you're making a pact with yourself to take action, don't make it dependent on someone else's action.
/r/seduction16/12/11 11:46 PM
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Interesting. I tidy my shit up, listen to some left lane cruiser full volume while doing press-ups/ dancing/knee-slapping/fist-pumping. Seriously. My mindset going out is high energy and that I am MAN. I know it sounds ridiculously trite but give it a try, it's better than cocaine.
/r/seduction16/12/11 11:29 PM
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This e-book helped me shake off some confidence issues. Hope you can find something in it to help.
/r/seduction16/12/11 10:49 PM
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Thanks man, just try to remember the overwhelming message of this subreddit is self-improvement and trying to give people the self-confidence to take a grasp of their social circumstances and meet women, sometimes people get the idea of seduction twisted.
/r/seduction16/12/11 10:36 PM
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I just finished reading the Outsider and the Plague in the past two months. And Beyond Good and Evil is one of my favourite books!
/r/seduction16/12/11 10:34 PM
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Well I enjoy conversations about sex, they're fun especially over drinks, she got a kick out of it too. I wasn't there to seduce her, I still haven't decided whether to try seduce her or befriend her yet. I'm not here in seduction just to get laid, the reason I'm here is that I love women and I love sex and I'm not interested in chasing one in spite of the other.
/r/seduction15/12/11 11:21 PM
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No it was all fine, and it makes more sense if she's in your friendship group and you're building social proof. I was just confused as to why you made a U-turn when you were at the point of closing. You may find her a little cold next time if she feels rejected or if she had told her friends she was heading back to yours she might be a little embarrassed. Depends on the girl.
/r/seduction15/12/11 03:45 PM
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how all we should do is enjoy our relationships with friends and family instead of basing our "success" in life, on the size of our credit limit. Chicks dig guys who can go to another level. I think the DHV of strong interpersonal relationships is probably more effective than the 'deep shit', but she's with you and no one else, this is a good sign. I start to think things are gonna lead to my bed, so I grab her hand and we are out the door. Fantastic, you've caught her interest and now you're es…
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:10 PM
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That's the one! Good man. At least this way she gets advice that has been tested by girls, on girls. Rather than speculation.
/r/seduction15/12/11 02:33 AM
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It's hard to answer this without knowing you better or making assumptions. If you post some FRs up it would be much, much easier to give better advice. Since this account seems to be a throwaway, what with this being the only post, I can only try a few suggestions and see if any hit home. Are you mixing things up? E.g. venues for meeting people, conversation topics, the types of girls you approach, the way in which you approach. Humans are more similar than different and if you put the same 'thi…
/r/seduction15/12/11 02:32 AM
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"Be attractive, don't be unattractive" - a lot of people don't realise that's calibration advice.
/r/seduction15/12/11 02:08 AM
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It doesn't look like she's still active, but we had a dedicated lesbian sedditor who posted a lot of FRs back when I was just lurking. Here's a link to her submissions. I believe she also started a lesbian seduction subreddit, it used to be linked in the sidebar. No idea if it's still active. I hope some of them have something you can use. I think otherwise you're going to get a lot of well-meaning sedditors giving valid advice that they have no clue as to whether it works for women-women intera…
/r/seduction15/12/11 02:05 AM
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Yeah, don't get me wrong the number one prerogative is to have fun, I just handle situations differently depending on how I feel about the person I'm with. In this case I had no idea whether I was looking to build a friendship or something more romantic, it made feel a little confused.
/r/seduction15/12/11 12:24 AM
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Yeah I guess I just assumed she'd want to leave after bowling, need to buck up the self confidence maybe. I think so, being around people gives me a lot of energy and I excel at reading people. Thank man, I forget how supportive the community is sometimes, friended.
/r/seduction14/12/11 11:28 PM
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This is a great post, I think our ideas are on a wavelength but you've managed to humanise your theories and ideas so much better than I was able to and the strong emphasis on how motivation snowballs and how you have to sustain this effort or lose momentum has given me a bit of a eureka moment with what's been holding me back. The overwhelming message of action is very important, philosophising is intrinsic to game, but it's all just chemical reactions in empty space without the action to put t…
/r/seduction14/12/11 11:22 PM
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The most positive thing I think I did was giving her a bit of a positive emotional rollercoaster. Getting to her to discuss her passions to begin with, then keeping a light-hearted funny mood in the bowling alley, to a deep interesting conversation, to the closeness of the piano and then to the sort of hilarious glee at the cavemanning. At no point did I let the mood go sour, but I didn't keep the same tone the whole night. Variety is the spice of life after all. I think I could have built more …
/r/seduction14/12/11 10:34 PM
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Just finished listening to it and this is very close to what I was going for, fantastic, thank you for that.
/r/seduction14/12/11 10:18 PM
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I'm not sure, I 100% agree to drop expectations and assumptions, but I usually like to have my intentions straight so I know what mood to be in and how to set the tone.
/r/seduction14/12/11 10:17 PM
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I haven't heard of this, thank you! I'll get looking it up now.
/r/seduction14/12/11 09:55 PM
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Exactly the message I'm trying to get across. It feels like game has always been about mimicking the habits of successful males, to framing yourself as a successful male and hopefully now to move towards actually being the successful male.
/r/seduction14/12/11 03:42 PM
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It helps to buy a paperback copy and interpret each sentence or passage as you go, then writing it in the margin. Thanks for taking the time to read it, I was worried it'd get downvoted to oblivion after i posted it. I'm glad other people have found value in it like i have.
/r/seduction14/12/11 03:38 PM
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If you're a patient reader I would definitely get through Existentialism as Humanism by Sartre to really understand the connotations of authenticity. It's a short book but a difficult read. Writing an honest journal entry every evening and reading over it at the end of each week will tell you more about what you need to improve than any resource. Considering why you say yes or no when you say it is a good authenticity test. You can either think about it lots and consider your own life, or you ca…
/r/seduction14/12/11 03:04 PM
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Especially for you larger guys out here, feel free to use your size to do crazy stunts like picking up girls super high in the air. It gets all the girls' buying temperatures up and it's pretty awesome in general. I like this a lot. Stealing it!
/r/seduction14/12/11 02:46 PM
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I'm vaguely familiar with Heidegger. Completely agree with that passage, because we live in a society our consequences affect others, and theirs affect us, the ideal is to reach a state where we can control what we can and deal with what we can't. Thank you for the reference though, I didn't really study philosophy properly, just got into Nietzsche and then Sartre and looked up summaries to philosophers that were relevant opponents or supporters of their theories.
/r/seduction14/12/11 02:32 PM
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Meet some other women, not just look at them, talk to them. I say you should make it your aim to hold solid, light-hearted conversation with at least 10 pretty girls face to face (who aren't this girl you've posted about) and go from hello to the point where you know what they're passionate about, why they're passionate about it, and their dreams for the future. And if you do that and still feel the same way about this girl you've posted about, then go ahead and use the conversational skills you…
/r/seduction14/12/11 02:22 PM
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Completely agree, OP, why are you so enamoured with a girl you haven't even spoken to? This girl is a stranger to you. You've become obsessed with a person you've imagined and pasted this girl's face onto it.
/r/seduction14/12/11 01:13 PM
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I'm basically saying that game is taking characteristics of the 'authentic man' and teaching them as arbitrary techniques, whereas I'm trying to push people to actually become the authentic man.
/r/seduction14/12/11 01:03 PM
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Look at your mindset going into these conversations. You're looking to be social, so you want to get to know them so all you need to ask is basics like how's it going? What brings you here? What do you do for fun? etc etc. Then whenever they say something mildly interesting, or something that sounds like it has a story behind it start asking the right questions to let them talk. Though I agree 100% with testmypatience practise makes perfect, try to do it face to face though, every cashier or sho…
/r/seduction14/12/11 11:07 AM
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Truly great book. For those that don't know - existentialism is a philosophy that basically says "There's no god, so what now?" and attempts to explain it. (Apart from Kierkegaard).
/r/seduction14/12/11 10:47 AM
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Have you checked out the links in the sidebar?
/r/seduction14/12/11 02:39 AM
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This is 100% the right answer. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT6QxRkjCAQ&feature=player_embedded
/r/seduction13/12/11 03:29 PM
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Wow, that's young. I have no idea what to suggest, other than the martial art or sports. It took me til I has 18 to realise how awesome regular exercise is for pretty much every aspect of your life, you don't even need to be particularly good at, just do it. Shit man, at 13/14 the world is your oyster. Just remember to do everything in moderation and don't waste your teen years in front of a screen.
/r/seduction12/12/11 04:34 AM
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don't have many extracurriculars or out of school activities to strike up about, nor do I have any interesting hobbies/talents Get some, this is a great place to start. I'm not 100% how old 8th grade is what with being British and all, but learning a cool instrument and picking up a martial art should be mandatory for any schoolkid. Once you get past the discomfort of starting something new it will do so much for your confidence. As for going from acquaintances to friends, it's just a case of as…
/r/seduction12/12/11 04:08 AM
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Why do you ask?
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:51 AM
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Really powerful idea behind it, it was very much a Eureka moment for me. In case anyone comes across this and wants some convenient linkage, the book of pook.
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:43 AM
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First thing's first: realise no one really has a clue wtf they are doing most of the time. Honestly, everyone is pretty much blundering through life trying to make sense of everything. Second: It's okay to fuck up. It's okay to feel out of your depth, there are ways of handling it. You're caught in a vicious circle, you have no experience with women so you distance yourself from them and gain no experience. Thirdly, you need to stop carrying the weight of your doubts, worries and insecurities on…
/r/seduction12/12/11 02:40 AM
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I don't see mixed signals, just polite, friendly rejection.
/r/seduction12/12/11 12:11 AM
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The best thing is you don't even need to say much, just ask them questions! Hey, are you from around here? Oh really? So where are you from originally/what's kept you in the area? That's really cool, I've moved/not moved around a lot/not much, so you do you prefer here to there? How come? Conversation is a simple, start broad and branch off, get to the heart of what they're saying. When you run out of 'developing' questions, just ask another broad question and repeat. BAM! A conversation. People…
/r/seduction12/12/11 12:05 AM
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Why do people insist on trying to push this one way or the other. The real answer to whether men and women can be friends: Maybe, it depends.
/r/seduction11/12/11 05:50 PM
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The thing is, we will never know the girl as well as you do, so we can't speak with any sort of authority on what may or may not work. We'd just be spouting generic seduction advice which can already be found in the sidebar. Another point is that these kinds of established relationships are just that: established. People don't like change, it makes them uncomfortable. If you try and change an established relationship they will feel uncomfortable around you, this is not attractive. I'm not saying…
/r/seduction10/12/11 11:42 PM
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Seddit isn't very useful for getting 'that one girl'. I'd suggest stop telling her your feelings and display them, talk is cheap. Invite her on a few dates, bowling, bike rides, a movie, whatever. Pay your way and let her pay hers, have a great time and make no assumptions about what's going to happen. Kino and be a good conversationalist and when the time feels right, go for k-close. If she can't make the time to date, or spurns your advances, she probably isn't that into you. You say you've ho…
/r/seduction10/12/11 11:34 PM
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Totally cool man, it's a community after all.
/r/seduction10/12/11 10:19 PM
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It's very positive you know the problem, now you know what to focus on. It was frustrating for me to read the [FR], you've got models checking you out, cool artist friends who invite you to cool events and you're confident enough not to drink. You're golden, all you need to do is recognise this and you're the Don Juan. If I were your wing that night I would have told you to pick the girl you're interested in, take her lightly by the arm and tell her you want to show her your favourite piece in t…
/r/seduction10/12/11 10:12 PM
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I give zero fucks what people think of this community, me or seduction in general. The principles are rooted in honesty and are internal in nature. We're being honest about our intentions, honest about our sexuality, we're changing our habits and actions, we're becoming more comfortable in our own skin, we're realising that we are worthy of talking to the pretty girl and we're learning the pretty girl often enjoys our company. There's no manipulation, we are not affecting the girls, we are affec…
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:49 PM
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My thoughts on the whole FR is that you got IOIs from half the pretties in the room, but made no move on a single one of them, short of swapping telephone numbers. In fact the girl you flirted with the most was the one you say you're not interested in. Here you have great social proof, you're the artist's friend. You're not drinking so you're in control, you're able to pick up IOIs off girls and have rapport with the prettiest ones. You are king of the room, so why don't you make a move?
/r/seduction10/12/11 09:25 PM
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Poor girl. Here she is lying on your bed and you do nothing, she's about to leave and you kiss her, you then give her a reason to leave: I know...but you don't have to go. But I think you will, because you are a good friend." I think you were trying to protect yourself from feeling rejected if she'd left for the party. Don't do this. Then she gives you a chance to pull her back and take charge: Will I? And you shrug it off! On the upside she probably thought you were playing it cool which is why…
/r/seduction10/12/11 08:58 PM
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making a whole persona i think is very important Don't do this. It's disingenuous. Your focus should be to make your personality attractive, if you create a persona to be confident and attractive you will get depressed when people start connecting with that persona and not you. Your aim should be to develop your own personality. As for fashion, fashion is being congruent with the styles of the moment, this is not important. What is far more important is the fit of your clothes, the quality of yo…
/r/seduction10/12/11 08:43 PM
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I know there has been research to show a spike in Testosterone after no-fap for 8 days. I would say what's much more important is to cut porn out altogether and not to use the gorilla-grip.
/r/seduction10/12/11 05:45 PM
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A bit of additional info I only became privy to this morning - these girls, the besotted one and her friend had heard a story about me from their friends, the story (a true one) is below: Basically a fair while ago me, Alex from the [FR] and two of his friends were having a beer at this hipster coffee shop we frequent. Alex talked and talked about how cute the barista chick was, I told him he should go for her number but he was far too shy, his two friends offer a few words of encouragement but …
/r/seduction10/12/11 04:39 PM
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I was thinking how transparent girls can be as she told me about how eager to please her boyfriend was, she was clearly frustrated by it and I knew at that point I looked like the polar opposite, the idea she wouldn't go for it never entered my mind, but if she had freaked or said no I would have just laughed and kissed her anyway. Once I was in state I stopped worrying about how I looked, if i was doing this right or wrong or what people thought of me, it gave a clarity to the situation so her …
/r/seduction10/12/11 04:27 PM
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Preaching to the choir my friend!
/r/seduction10/12/11 02:42 PM
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I'd like to do this again in a club I'm less familiar with and with hotter, bitchier girls for a bit of a challenge, I was a little bit dead in the water in the dance club. With the girls, I intend to invite the besotted girl over for a 'movie', the german girl to a bar for beers (Bavarian german, lots of banter about how she could drink me under the table) and with Ell I'm going to go bowling with her, because I fucking love bowling and even if I don't pull her, she's cool as fuck. Will probabl…
/r/seduction10/12/11 02:41 PM
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Power gazing is going from eye to eye to centre of the forehead. Throws a lot of people off, makes them self-conscious or feel challenged, people do not like it when you do this to them. Yes exactly that, people-watch girls a bit and you'll notice them doing it.
/r/seduction09/12/11 06:23 PM
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You're in luck shuritsen, this is the first question answered in the FAQ!
/r/seduction07/12/11 02:04 PM
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I recently came to the realisation that faking it til making it is the lazy mans solution. The easiest way to feel successful and happy is to become successful and happy. I see myself as a loser so I've laid down all the things I need to do to correct this and set up a private subreddit for myself so I can keep a journal of where I've succeeded and failed and to track my progress with regards to my specific aims of improvement. My intention is to open it up for /r/seduction and /r/mansformation …
/r/seduction07/12/11 01:37 PM
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No problem, it's very hard to explain because it's so subtle. When you listed to someone, you make eye contact right? Usually slightly prolonged. While you do that, instead of staring directly into their eyes flick your gaze from eye to eye to lips. Your mouth and eyes should be natural with regard to what she's saying and the mood of the conversation. If you're worried about looking creepy, watch it done in the real world, you'll start to see it now you're aware of it. Remember seduction techni…
/r/seduction05/12/11 05:25 PM
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Thank you for crediting the authors, I only knew it as a Westsidetoastmasters resource.
/r/seduction04/12/11 06:43 PM
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By no means a definitive amount of time, I guess if I think about it about 3 seconds. I usually do it when I'm listening to her speak, I look attentive and keep good eye contact while avoiding staring. Don't be too surprised if she fumbles her words when you look at her lips.
/r/seduction04/12/11 06:42 PM
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While I don't quite qualify as anyone else this book is a pretty comprehensive summary of basic body language. It's aimed more towards the businessman in my opinion, but by reading it you will be able to recognise comfort/discomfort in people very easily, be able to interpret relationships between strangers to a certain degree. If you doubt the legitimacy of westsidetoastmasters, search around for reviews. I'm not affiliated or anything, I just wanted to share what I've found to be a powerful re…
/r/seduction04/12/11 02:41 AM
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Middle of the forehead, or it's not a triangular gaze. Be wary with this one, it's a bit of a mixed bag.
/r/seduction04/12/11 02:37 AM
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True, but I'm learning. Hopefully I will have some better endings soon.
/r/seduction05/09/11 08:43 PM
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Sound advice, the CB did really throw me off, I've been reading around for solutions for this kind of attitude and my favourite so far is calling them out on their rudeness, I figure they expect an approaching guy to be a bit of a dickhead, so maybe if I frame them as the uncivilized one I can turn it around. With the HB9 I've chatted to her a few times and texted her, she's definitely taken, her dad's a police officer who caught me and some friends buying weed once, so whenever I texted her in …
/r/seduction04/09/11 09:00 PM
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It's a good line for hired guns I think, names are powerful. And I'm happy for you to steal it, it was one of your posts I found the bit about wearing red being attractive. With a 2set like this, and no wingman, how would you go about isolating? I completely drew a blank, and I would have much rather f-closed HB9 than make out with both of them (poor me haha).
/r/seduction04/09/11 08:21 PM
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Conclusions: Get a wingman Keep your nerve (see how much you can get away with) Work on isolating (that sounds bad, but you know what i mean) target. Engage all girls, not just targets. Misc thoughts: AA is a huge problem for me, I can introduce myself etc then freeze up a bit. I lucked out in the sense I managed to bump into a girl I knew. I think the always be gaming attitude is incredible advice (I think TofuTofu is a big supporter of this), because you never know who you'll bump into and whe…
/r/seduction04/09/11 03:13 PM
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