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It's sort of like asking why a man wants to have a mid-life crisis. Some men just feel like they missed out on experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 05:27 PM
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Depends how muscular and how it's proportioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 04:45 PM
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Not an alt-right, but I can guess: Amanda Marcotte defended the accuser in the Duke Lacrosse case, she was a part of the Atheism Plus shitshow while she herself was accused of appropriating the words of brown women (defended by no other than Hugo Schwyzer). My personal problem with her was that she's part of the "get offended at everything" brigade, but chose some interesting images for her book. Big Red went to some MRA speech or something and wanted people to listen to her read off some list f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 12:14 AM
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Am I correct to say that there's no male analogue to this level of shallowness? None that wouldn't be immediately called out as shallow or labelled misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 06:57 PM
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I believe in equality, but there's a combination of feminists I don't want to give support to and ideas I think are wrong, dangerous, or even bigoted. Simply stating my disagreement has gotten me labelled a lot worst than non-feminist, so I'm just doing my regular thing of not going where I'm not wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/17 11:55 PM
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The virginity thing came along because men passed on their stuff to their children, so they had to make sure it was really their children who were getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 02:47 PM
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OK, link to it. Support your assertion. I can't find the AVFM version of the site. .You know where it went because he told people. After people started inquiring on where money from a fundraiser (that didn't mention his living expenses) was going. Even after that, he refused to open his books. It's beyond me why you want to keep defending him. He hasn't been good for the MRM, he's been worse for men. He's like the Lena Dunham of men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 03:54 PM
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Link? It's on that fake site, if it's still up. And paying staff is different from pocketing donations that people thought were going elsewhere. There's a reason people were asking for an accounting of where the money was going, something even kickstarters are suppose to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 03:03 PM
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Why are incels here? Which pill do they support and why do they still support it if it hasn't "worked" for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:38 AM
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Is it really that they can't afford a hooker, or just don't want to secure the services of one. If the latter, doesn't that point to some subconscious block stopping them from getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:34 AM
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Quite clearly the object is to make an argument that men can be victims of domestic violence, too. It's ludicrous to suggest that he's trying to trick people out of their money; I could buy that if his version wasn't claiming the other was the fake why also asking for donations. He's saying he has "not yet figured out a way to do this 14-16 hours a day and also hold a full time job" and "arrangement has yet to earn me minimum wage for my efforts." So you're not disputing his using donations for …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:12 AM
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So this is Going for the Orange Julius in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:49 PM
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Isn't bluepill just not-redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:41 PM
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I don't remember the title of the post where I read the first one and I don't want to search AVFM. Here's an article about his fake version of a feminist site. Here's him admitting to using donations for personal use.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:21 AM
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If you meant that marital rape should not have been accepted then I agree, but that's a bit of a non-sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:51 PM
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Hey, dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:17 PM
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Because I'm wondering why you think men should have it easy when women didn't. I don't think anyone said anything about having it easy. The closest was the first person to respond to you who mentioned pushback from feminists, which shouldn't be expected for things like Movember.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 10:46 PM
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As a liberal, I think a lot of people know that there were a lot of mistakes made and Trump somehow becoming a symbol of the common man really demonstrates that. Many of the people behind those problems are still around and not even entertaining the idea that they made mistakes, so there is concern over how we can even move forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:46 PM
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In the context of this conversation: ... why?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 09:42 PM
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There was that time he told feminists to prove... something by donating to him, the time he created a fake version of a feminist site that asked for donations, and the time he admitted to using donations for personal use.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 05:51 PM
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The ones pushing the redpill are definitely misogynist. The problem is that you can be swept up into it without realizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 03:36 PM
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I think the ultimate BP vs RP film was Ex Machina.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 02:05 AM
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For the love of god, don't drag black people into this. We have enough problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/17 04:52 PM
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We're thinking of the same Amy Schumer who frequently speaks on women's issues and said, "I think anyone who is not a feminist is an insane person. I think they don't know what feminism means,"? She as much a feminist as she is a comedian. Neither of those depend on either of us enjoying her type of feminism or comedy. Trust me, I'd like nothing more than for feminist to stop supporting people like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 05:15 PM
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That's the advocacy at it's best, but not the whole of it. Different groups are going to have conflicting interests simply because they're thinking of their own problems and seeing things from their own point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:59 PM
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I think the general public is more familiar with Amy Schumer than Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 04:47 PM
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The sjw check-your-privilegers make white women sick WTF? They are white women. The most popular feminists, the ones who get the most exposure, all white women with white men coming in second.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:32 PM
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Because feminism, at its core, is about equality Advocacy of women on the basis of equality. There's a subtle but important difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/17 02:15 PM
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I was expecting a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:44 AM
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This title sounds like a contradiction. I don't know if a lot of women know this, but men are told that if they unknowingly take home a transwomen who they only learn is trans when the penis comes out, that should be perfectly polite and kind in turning them down. Given that, not describing unattractive men with a word that connotes sex offender doesn't seem like a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/17 04:35 AM
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I was actually wondering that too. I don't visit TRP so, based on this sub, I was wondering why so many seem supportive of redpillers when it doesn't seem to have helped them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 01:10 PM
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I'll take a different route and say that being an incel is a symptom, not a problem. If you want to have sex, you can get an easy girl from craigslist. If you want to have a sex with someone attractive, you can hire a prostitute. If you do neither, but have sex on your mind 24/7, then there's probably something much deeper going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 03:30 AM
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I'm suggesting that attractive men rape less because generally people want to have sex with them. But that has no basis in reality. Again, MOST rapes are committed by people who knew the victim and many of them are in romantic relationships with the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:04 PM
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They were being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 11:42 AM
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How many rapists do you think get laid regularly? How many guys who get laid regularly become rapists? This guy is a rapist. Does he look like he has trouble getting laid? This guy was buy NBC famous. Still a rapist. MOST rapes are committed by someone the victim already knows, including boyfriends and husbands, not some incel waiting in the bushes. So yes, a lot of rapist can and do get laid regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:43 AM
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I can't see a neckbeard actively creating situations to sexually assault people, but if the opportunity presents itself, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Their hunger trumps their empathy and conscience. Then why don't they just get prostitutes? And are we equating neckbeards with Incels here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 10:33 AM
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The guys are 100% responsible for getting certain things I want. Who else got them to do it? No, they have no control over the preferences of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 05:29 AM
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It's not only my problem because if those guys didn't exist there wouldn't be as much competition. Yeah, that's only your problem. Other guys are not at fault for getting what you want or being what other women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 04:12 AM
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I think the directing anger at people because of your problems is the reason I hate TRP. And isn't it funny that you were resentful toward frat boys while that's the kind of guy that pops into people's heads when you mention TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 03:32 AM
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Liana K, other sex-positive feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 01:55 PM
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This is sort of like saying, "isn't it other women slut shaming women and judging them by insane body standards?" While it may be true, it seems like a way to say that the problem isn't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 06:55 PM
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No, you're just refusing to be clear. In incel, they suffer a severe trauma basically every 3-6 months. You haven't explained what you mean by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 07:04 PM
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Not just because you say it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 05:33 PM
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If you have to ask that you feel no empathy for rape victims either but just parrot what the society tells you. No, I have empathy for rape victims, that's why I'm asking you what incels recieve trauma from that often.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 04:28 PM
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In rape, a person suffers a severe trauma once. That's not how trauma works, it stays with you. In incel, they suffer a severe trauma basically every 3-6 months. ... from what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:49 PM
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Nothing, that's why even men who don't like feminists dislike TRP as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:39 PM
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Yep, people who complain about tribalism often engage in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/16 01:00 PM
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Only men with confidence so low that they don't really think they can get a hot girl. If you set your eyes on a super model and nothing ever happens, you're considered brave for setting your sights so high. When an average girl rejects you, it makes it seem like you were the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 02:27 AM
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The thing is, everyone knows those subs are worse. No one thinks coontown isn't racist. With The RedPill, the danger is to young men who have problems that are either overlooked or blamed on themselves; they can easily fall into TRP and pick up the misogyny and shallowness many of the members exhibit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/15 01:30 PM
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They both have immature people who are more concerned with lining their own pockets than helping anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 02:16 AM
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Firstly, you skipped the whole "talk things out and try to come to a compromise" option. If that doesn't work, then yes, splitting up is better than manipulating someone. I don't even know why that's a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 07:18 AM
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Which is worse: Playing your wife's insecurities to rekindle her attraction, or divorce? Playing your wife's insecurities to rekindle her "attraction". You don't manipulate someone you see as your equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 05:36 AM
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An example would be withholding attention and affection to make a partner who said they didn't want to have sex with you... have sex with you. Flirting with other women to make a partner who didn't want to have sex with you... have sex with you. Those stories people post about manipulating women into having sex by playing on their insecurities is pretty much the kind of thing men complain about women doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 05:03 AM
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Acting in a way to purposely make a woman insecure in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 04:14 AM
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It sounds like whenever a TRP concept is explained in detail you have no problem with it. Not at all. I still abhor the "heavy dread" game as some called it as well as how I continually hear TRP talk about women (or men, for that matter).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/15 01:21 AM
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There are other places to get advice on dating and relationships, have been since well before The Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 10:58 PM
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For light dread game, it's akin to when your S.O. works out and is catching eyes on the SMP. There really is no need to be insecure about this. Either you're good enough to keep them or need to step up to keep the improved version of your S.O. This applies to both men and women, and they need to accept the fact that increased demand for a commodity raises its price. That I can understand, as well as all the stuff about self-improvement is all well and good; but the other types of dread game I've…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 10:56 PM
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If she's insecure about a little light dread I'm sorry, but isn't insecurity the whole reason dread game works? That's pretty much what it is, right? vs the experienced RPers who accept women as humans. ... if that's how redpillers view women, they haven't shown it well. I think it was in this very sub that I read a repiller write that they don't think women should have equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 10:13 PM
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They're unsatisfied so they try to change. But they can do that without TRP. They only think they do because the same people who shit on the redpill also seem to shit on them for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:53 PM
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A lot of nice guys need a little assholery in their repertoire. No, just self-esteem and knowing how to value their own time. That doesn't require being an asshole. If women can't handle some teasing, negging, or light dread, then they truly are children. I'm pretty sure those things only work on the immature, or worse, insecure. Taking advantage of the latter simply makes nice guys trade places with the women who used them to unload baggage. I'm pretty sure nice guys want to get laid more than …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:51 PM
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I sometimes think TRP and SRS compliment each other really well. It's like both have to take good ideas and then take them to such extreme levels that normal people throw the baby out with the protein shake and neon hair dye.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:38 PM
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That depends on whether or not feminists are willing to step back when it's needed or not. Right now, it seems many (not all) want to go into every space, turn all the attention to women, and then act surprised when there's pushback. Feminists have to start separating those who care about women's issues from those who want to get attention (and cash) for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 09:04 PM
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If you are, why are you all up in my business? Do what works for you, and I'll do what works for me. The problem is that you're doing "what works for you" out in the world and affecting other people... then spreading it to impressionable people who could be better helped without the shallowness and misogyny that often comes with TRP. I'm not a feminist, I'm not someone who thinks men trying to learn how to hook up with women is wrong, I'm someone who thinks turning a nice guy into an asshole doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 08:47 PM
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You're using the death of a boy to score points for women? You do realize that you're actually reinforcing stereotypes about feminists, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/15 04:53 PM
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I'm anti-redpill and I don't identify as a feminist and often criticize the social justice crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 08:12 PM
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I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 07:18 PM
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Hey guys, did you hear about the big MRA convention that's coming up? It's taking place during White History Month. I think they'll be discussing walking in the Straight Pride Parade. While I hate the manosphere and the misogyny is spouts, I also hate this simplistic thinking as well. Not only is being male different from being straight and white, but many male problems are amplified when you add things like race, sexual orientation, etc. If you want to mock the redpill or MRM, do so, but don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:36 PM
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I don't agree as I believe men are complex and multidimensional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/15 03:20 PM
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No, a deep seeded belief about yourself will affect how you let others treat you and what come to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 11:22 PM
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Because they don't believe they deserve the nice, sweet gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:27 PM
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By "hate", people mean that many redpillers don't see women as equals. I've seen a redpiller here outright say he doesn't think women should have equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/15 10:25 PM
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Isn't a lot of slut shaming done by young men who have sex with young women and then disrespect them later? There's also an armed forces thing where the women they can have sex with are called slut and the ones they can't are called bitches or dykes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 02:50 PM
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Here's a bright idea: How about we treat mass killings as something serious. We look for similarities in their home life, emotional support, and mental health. How about we actually research it instead of pulling stuff out of our ass. So are we counting the various murders that have nothing to do with this, like career criminals and fights that turn lethal? I get that you don't like the redpill bullshit, most of reddit doesn't, but that's no reason to propagate more bullshit to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/15 04:18 AM
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If you don't have children, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/15 03:28 AM
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I think it's sad. I wonder how we became so hostile to submissive and traditional women that they've landed into the hands of men who think they're children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/15 02:38 AM
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so bpers, why do you care so much about rp, people are living their life and are happy, theyre not doing anything wrong. also why do rpers dislike bpers? Because, while there may be some normal people among both groups, both groups seem to believe some crazy stuff and groups like that always hate groups like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/15 02:44 AM
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Because who or how many people someone bangs is their own business unless they're hurting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/15 10:40 PM
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Like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 09:12 PM
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Normal, minus self confidence (not like I'm one to talk in that area), or like the worst sci-fi character in the history of science fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/15 09:07 PM
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For anyone who isn't aware of The Good Men Project, it is a site devoted to showing men that feminism and combating toxic masculinity helps men in the long run. It's actually hated by regular guys and feminists. One second, it's hosting an article written by a rapist, the next it's telling all men that they have some secret urge to use women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/15 01:37 PM
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You don't see us posting things about being a man in 21st century. Yes. Yes, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 01:34 AM
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Another case of an over-privileged person somehow passing as an "empowered" figure. Seriously, what has she done for feminism aside from reinforce it's silver spoon image. Breaking body image taboos? Does anyone remember Marilyn Monroe? How about Christina Hendricks? Shit, look up Saartjie Baartman and you'll find that the very claim that Lena Dunham breaks body-image taboos is just another instance of her privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:08 PM
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simultaneous majority/minority (victim/oppressor) status. Being white gives you passive social privilege but being a woman gives you coveted structural and social victim status. I don't think Hispanics who have to prove their citizens or black men who have to justify walking through a neighborhood or LGBT people who couldn't get married last decade consider their positions coveted. That said, I've noticed plenty of times where upperclass white women lump themselves in with other minorities to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 03:11 PM
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Seriously what's the deal with this phenomenon? It's a way of counterbalancing men who want to come in and tell them they're wrong or debate them when that's not what they want to do there. You know how sometimes a bunch of guys will be having fun and then a feminist will come in and try to talk about feminism, or a Christian about Christianity, or a vegetarian about vegetarianism? Well lots of men are the same when it comes to male concerns and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 12:44 PM
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What makes you think there's only one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/15 06:14 PM
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Can someone explain to me what that means because I thought it was just people who couldn't get laid but people talk about it like it's some group or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 08:36 AM
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This is the wrong approach. There are many problems with Alcoholics Anonymous, but you can't really attack it by say, "you're all just alcoholics". People who join TRP go there for "help". If you attack them, you're making TRP's grip on them stronger. [EDIT] Also, I think they know that not all men feel like them, and that's part of the problem. I remember when Jennifer Lawrence was getting popular and there were a bunch of posts on feminist blogs implying that they felt pressured to measure up.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:46 AM
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but many guys in STEM have seemed kinda effeminate to me or boyish. I agree, but I also feel like that might be part of the "demand".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 04:41 AM
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There's more smoke around him than there was coming from Cosby.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 01:17 AM
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The only real change I see is less people being arrested for an idiotic law. Then again, that's a good change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:03 PM
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I think the only thing that will happen is that the amount of men who claim to be 30 year old incels will dwindle. I don't think anyone is an incel because of the availability of sex, but the same self-defeating beliefs that we all have in one area or another. Even if there was a legal prostitute next door to them, there would be some reason they couldn't make an appointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/14 09:02 PM
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Lets be honest: All the good men were snatched up by all the good women and all of us men and women who are left need to start lowering our standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/14 02:23 PM
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Did this in another sub. Ideology Score Women of Color 45 Liberal feminist 41 Socialist feminist 20 Radical feminist 17 Cultural feminist 16 Conservative 13
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 02:16 AM
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Quite a feat since Sharia Law has led to the beating, rape, and death of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 09:41 PM
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It's just weird to see someone who will just say they don't think a group of people deserve equal rights and not feel ashamed or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 04:14 PM
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I disagree with the principle that women deserve rights equal to or the same as men. Wow. That's like a GOP member outright saying, "Look, I just hate niggers and faggots."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 03:46 PM
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Medical reasons are pretty conclusive. What is inconclusive are the recommendations following that data. If you're referring to it's effectiveness in preventing HIV, then I remember the correlation between AIDS and circumcision not being the same for all African populations. And lets think for a second about some of the testing involving men outside of first would countries having sex with prostitutes. A common situation an infant in America would face. Also, it is not you who decides what is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/14 01:21 AM
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The medical reasons are inconclusive and are irrelevant to an infant. Injury and pain do not trump everything. I'm willing to bet there is no other situation where you think it's okay to hurt a non-consenting party because of religious tradition. Not a parent, just a human being who sees a norm that has no business being a norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 07:26 PM
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Circumcision... Just isn't big enough a deal to go banning others from doing it. It's "not a big deal" because it's popular and those that undergo it don't remember. But it is cutting an infant for no good reason. It is painful, painful enough to put the infant into shock. That alone should be enough. Injury and pain to a child should trump everything, especially mere tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 03:00 AM
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Limiting their freedom to cut the foreskin off an infant? No good reason for that? Like... the rights of an infant not to be harmed for mere religious or cosmetic reasons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:30 AM
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There is no brutality to it. You're cutting the foreskin off of an infant. The infant feels so much pain that it goes into shock. Is it less brutal because people are dressed up?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 09:07 PM
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It's not stoning. No, but I have this religious book that tells me I have to stone people for certain things. Being disobedient children, mixing fabrics, getting raped but not yelling, my God wants me to stone these people. You think I shouldn't be stopped?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 05:53 PM
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If two people truly know what they're getting into, then there really isn't a wrong being commited. They're using each other, but if they're honest about it, who is getting hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 05:51 PM
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I dislike it because of it's view of women and how it takes advantage of unfortunate men to propogate those beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 05:46 PM
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I don't think Jews and Muslims should be deprived of their religious freedom. You probably don't mean that. Circumcision is the norm now, so it's easy to brush off the brutality of it because everyone is doing it. But if somone told you they would stone their son for diobedience, you'd probably notify the police the first chance you got. We always limit religious freedom when it infringes on the rights of others. An infant doesn't choose to get it's foreskin cut off, it's an action forced on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 05:43 PM
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Despite this, however, I am rather acutely aware of the fact that the world I live in has largely been created and molded by men. I am acutely aware of the fact that almost all of my interests have been pioneered and furthered by men, that the only reason I'm capable of considering a serious career is because men have played a dominant role in creating a world in which it is a possibility You're over thinking it. Tiger Woods isn't Scottish and either side of his family would be barred from count…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 04:29 PM
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Am I the only one who sees the obvious consequences of using the term "Nice Guys" as an insult. If you think calling girls bossy or bitchy makes them reluctant to assert themselves, what exactly do you think "lol, nice guys" will do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 10:57 PM
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It seems like extroverted men trying to live as introverted men in an effort to piss people off. As a genuine introverted man I can say that it will accomplish nothing but people asking why don't do various things you have no interest in doing (or have lots of interest in doing if you're forcing that lifestyle on yourself).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 05:26 PM
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Feministing.com: since you've asked about black feminist writings, you probably are now aware of the concept of intersectionality. Feminism used to be a movement by upper class white women, with concerns about white upper class women. That's been changing in third wave feminism. Feministing.com keeps me abreast of what's going on outside of my income bracket. It's easy to forget how difficult other people have it. hmm. A lot of times "intersectionality" turns out to be cishet white people fighti…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 10:42 PM
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If I take the time to give you a list (which is by no means comprehensive, but what I, as a feminist enjoy reading) will you actually use it? If it's websites, yes, I'll browse through them. If it's books, I actually have a list of recommended readings from black feminists I have to get through, so that will have to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 02:01 AM
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Right. So you get your info straight from RPs/MRs. ... did you not read what I wrote, or did you confuse me with someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 01:46 AM
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Various feminists I've talked to. So far, Rebecca Watson, Skeptchick in general, Freethoght Blogs, Anita Sarkeesian, and Twisty Faster aren't really feminists or representations of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/14 01:40 AM
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You're avoiding. Feminist websites discussing men's issues please. I believe that is what I asked for. Because conversations like this usually end with, "they're not really feminists," or, "well, that's not the mainstream," you're going to have to tell us what you consider mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 09:27 PM
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Am I the only one who doesn't have as much problem with the radfems as the obvious opportunists? I'd rather have someone hate me than someone who rides valid female concerns to forward their own personal agendas or even get fame for doing nothing important.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/14 12:19 AM
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From the comments: As someone who has been both slapped AND punched by more than one ex- girlfriend, there's a big difference between getting slapped (even slapped hard) and getting full-on attacked. And each time, I definitely deserved it. Actually, I think we usually do. Because feminism is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 11:53 PM
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Shouldn't you point out which sites you consider feminists? You know people can name at least one that the average person would cringe at only for you to inform them that the site given isn't really feminist because they put sugar in their porridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 11:24 PM
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There's definitely people getting passes for bad behavior. Being an arrogant asshole, I see men and female centered groups as being two lunch tables that listen to different music. "David said what? Well, that's my friend so they must be lying or you must be misunderstanding."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 11:28 PM
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Consciously, yes, but I think some of my behavior shows a subconscious mistrust of people in general. Because I'm heterosexual, it's women who would be in a situation to notice it. If that makes any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 11:25 PM
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There were matriarchal societies in Africa where the women were bigger on average and would often hit their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 11:22 PM
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Sex is fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 02:43 PM
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They might be playing it safe because of concerns over discrimination or rather prejudice. Again, it's hard for anyone regardless of gender. Not everyone can do it and even many who do profit from the occasional fortunate happenstance or are obsessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 02:46 AM
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Making a business from the bottom up isn't easy for anyone and has risks. Many of the women with the skills to do it are probably playing it safe and trying to get a position in a good company. We mostly hear about the men who succeed, not the many more who fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 02:27 AM
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I recognize that there are fake gamer girls, but I think the suspicion every girl has to go through is bad for both real gamer girls and the industry. Same goes comics and various other "geek" hobbies. Making them into inclusive clubs is what inspires the fakes to come in and also causes people within the industry to get all pretentious in trying to prove itself. Playing games should be something you do or don't do, not a special status. That said, if you think Anita Sarkeesian is important to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/14 01:09 AM
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There are, or were, several towns filled with people who were against having a black president. Clearly they don't speak for country. Small towns will always have different customs when compared to the country as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 01:11 PM
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But most people reacted negatively to that comment, to Steubenville, to rape in general. Those incidents or behaviors are rarely part of general culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/14 01:45 AM
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The idea that when you go out to a bar or go out clubbing that the main purpose is to pick someone up. God, if that's the kind of thing rational wiki packs into RAPE CULTURE then I'm glad I wrote that site off long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 10:56 PM
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It's as real as creationist culture, or birther culture. There are subcultures where rape is excused or encouraged. In First World Countires, these are small pockets, not the norm. A politician saying women can't get pregnant from legitimate rape doesn't mean we live in a rape culture, especially when many people react with disbelief and horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/14 09:53 PM
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I think it's immoral to tell others who they have to consider romantically. We feel the way we feel and that's not something you can just change. It's better to be upfront with these feelings than engaging in a relationship and letting them fester.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/14 01:26 PM
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I think there should be a separation of feminists and SJWs. The SJWs, Social Justice Warriors, are the people talking about feminism the most to people who don't identify as feminists. And no, they're not all on tumblr, not even all on Jezebel. They're any place a spoiled asshole needs a quick buck or attention. They're the feminist version of the Tea Party. Meaning some feminists who should know better will support them when it benefits their cause, only to learn that the price is the cause its…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 03:59 PM
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While I generally feel the same about The Red Pill, strategies aren't bad. That dating advice that doesn't include seeing women as children, still strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 01:05 AM
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Men have long taken advantage of systems designed to benefit them without apology, but when women use a system to their their advantage they are considered traitors to their ideology. If you're saying you're just like everyone else, then you're just like everyone else, if you catch my meaning. I actually support many programs designed to level the playing field. I would support a program designed to get girls interested in STEM, I would be against a STEM field quota program (not saying one even …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 06:39 PM
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Like everyone else, I want to be recognized for my hard work and dedication. However for me, if affirmative action action gets my foot in the door during a recession I'll take it. Does the fact that I'm an opportunist cancel out that I'm a feminist? God, yes. It's one of the things people hate about feminism. If you mix "women are historically and currently discriminated against" with "I want something for myself," then people will just begin to hear the latter when you're talking about the form…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/14 02:07 PM
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That's not what the redpill teaches, that's what society as a whole tells men. It's not even so much that you're a "whiny bitch" but that people depend on you so you have to put your feelings aside.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/14 04:40 AM
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Not a redpiller, but if you're asking if you should dump your boyfriend: give him an ultimatum first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/14 05:42 PM
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Wait, so you have a feminist who believes in capitalism, disagrees with equality of outcome, is pro-porn, can listen to someone who disagrees with her without attacking him, and IS A FUCKING PORNSTAR. I get annoyed with tumblr feminists popping up in things I like as much as the next guy, but the young woman in that video isn't an enemy to be attacked. For a community based on helping guys get laid, you seem like the kind of guys who could talk a woman's panties on.
/r/TheRedPill28/02/14 03:38 PM
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Are we really going to start using what porn people watch as an indicator of what they want in real life? I play video games because I wouldn't really want to shoot a gun at anyone in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 10:20 PM
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That wasn't honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/14 02:37 AM
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I was thinking more along the lines of: "How do I look in this picture?" "You look nice." ... death
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 11:03 PM
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When a guy says "you look nice," are you unable to take it as a compliment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/14 09:32 PM
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clicks on topic. sees no answers from the submitter. leaves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/14 08:16 PM
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I actually think some people want a female president that is more "emotional" than male presidents in the same way they wanted Obama to be this guy who was angry at the administration and would just change everything the second he got into office. Any president will pretty much be any president. Elizabeth Warren would at least have an agenda that extends beyond mere power and, as far as I know, hasn't done some of the underhanded things the Clintons have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 05:34 PM
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I wouldn't take that, or anything she says in front of an advocacy group, seriously. If she does an AMA here, you can expect her to talk about how many fedoras she owns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/14 01:29 AM
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but I do not believe women should hold power. Women make great compliments and helpmeets to men in power, however. Then the world offline must suck for you because woman have held some kind of power power a while now. The universe still has yet to implode.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 11:52 PM
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I think it's now common knowledge that Hillary can be as cut-throat and cold as any male candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/14 10:21 PM
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That's pretty much the feminist line of thinking when they enter a male space and make it all about women. You can either try to out-feminist the feminists (not sure there's a way to win in that contest) or you can put more energy into addressing male concerns.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 03:42 AM
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I think the issue is one of focus. People really want to talk about issues facing men and don't feel the MRM is as interested in that as in bashing feminists. You're a smaller, newer group. You can go around pissing people off in hopes that the few important things get through, or you can actually focus on the important things themselves.
/r/MensRights11/02/14 03:30 AM
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Having read some of the stuff that goes into "being alpha" (it was research for a story, honest) I doubt he thinks about it at all. He was more focused on his work in the past and then turned to humanitarian efforts. That doesn't sound like a man who practices walking like he's in water to show how in control of his actions he is or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 11:54 PM
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Am I a male shamer? You're clearly giving into stereotypes that not only negatively affect men, but negatively affect the way they interact with people and how open they feel they can be. You're also admitting to outright gender discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 11:49 PM
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Because as a young kid he looked like Richard Stallman use to take his lunch money. If anything, he's evidence that pursuing your own interests is more important than caring if anyone thinks you're an "Alpha." Hasn't anyone read John O'Farrell's Walking Into The Wind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 11:41 PM
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I think the important thing to take note of is that Susan Sons is the perfect person to go to and ask, "how can we get more women involved in this field?" Instead, the question has been passed off to theorists and or people who only get involved in the tech field to talk about women in the tech field. It's like going to a podiatrist about your toothache.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/14 08:31 PM
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I think the OP misrepresents the video, much to the detriment of the message. The video isn't about being less rigid in straight male identity, it's about being more secure in it. Maybe you meant the same thing, but it's not really how it reads. It would be a shame if someone didn't watch the video because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/14 06:09 PM
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Are you sure you want sex, or do you want what you think sex can give you? A lot of times we fail to meet goals because: We don't really want them as much as we think. Great men accomplish great things because of their inner drive. Without that, or having a drive connected to the side effect of a goal, we fail. We don't believe we can reach our goal, at least not deep down. We might see ourselves as undeserving or believe we'll fail before we even begin. When you have a deep seated belief, you'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:41 PM
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The problem is that it doesn't usually work out that way. People accomplish whatever they set out to do, and find that they are still the same person - with the same insecurities, the same neuroses, the same weaknesses. They might feel better for a while, but it's only temporary. PREACH!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/14 03:19 PM
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There is no ideal male lifestyle. If you're not a relationship person and like 21 year olds, it sounds great. If you've just given up on relationships and just settling, it would probably suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/14 12:31 AM
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When I think of "radical," I think of someone going to extreme means to accomplish a goal. Jezebel is a website that continually posts bull for clicks. Yes, there are some earnest articles there, but sometimes I wonder if Lindy West thinks about all the people who will spread her posts around shock and disbelief right as she's writing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 08:00 PM
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You really want people to associate feminists with Jezebel.com? Feminists outlets may engage in a range of issues, but they also engage in radical bullshit that pretty much justifies people's perceptions of feminists. Yes, the leaders of the MRM are bad and people who want to discuss issues pertaining to men should disassociate with them. But, you know, let's not pretend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/14 06:53 PM
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I'm actually sure it does work some times, I just don't think it's worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 06:25 PM
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There just seems to be a lot of game playing and strategizing. I know there are plenty of people who have never heard of the red pill who regularly play games, I don't think the answer is to have more guys doing the same thing. I just hate game. In dating, in the workplace, in personal relationships. When I refuse to play along, it's not because I'm trying to pass a "shit test." I really just don't want to play along at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 03:29 PM
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I don't agree with TRP, but I do agree that much of the criticism is just, "those guys are so stupid." After reading some posts, I actually want to get a Fedora.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 02:35 PM
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I don't think they're victims so much as RP and a lot of other male centered groups being magnets for victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/14 03:02 AM
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I thought this was going to be about both groups ignoring the extremists and hypocrisies within each of their groups. It sometimes seems like MRM is a parody of feminism that forgot it was a parody. But I do agree with you point if for a totally different reason. The "I went to gender studies" feminists are annoying and pushing away their potential allies. The MRM will pick up steam just because people are fed up with feminists. Even feminists seem to be aware of this with their "we're not all l…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 02:13 AM
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Actually, the article is saying that the woman getting harassed is not the woman who made the rape accusation. They're not saying the accusation was false, they're saying a woman who happens to look like the woman in the video is being harassed.
/r/TheRedPill23/10/13 02:22 PM
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