KarismaCameleon Archive

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1	If you've bought into the COVID theater you aren't a confident man You think that caring for other people is just an act to impress women, and not something that people do for its intrinsic value? I sincerely hope that one day you will wake up and see how fucked up that perspective is.	/r/seduction	06/04/21 08:48 PM
2	If you've bought into the COVID theater you aren't a confident man Dude this is not about fear. I'm not worried for myself. I take precautions because I don't want to be responsible for transmitting a deadly virus to someone else. People in my family have risk factors like asthma. Some people have compromised immune systems. Any older person is at high risk. It's everyone else that I'm concerned about. A lot of people are missing family members who would be alive today if we all took this seriously. Pull your head out of your ass. Not everything is about you.	/r/seduction	06/04/21 06:56 PM
1	Dominance is somewhat opposite of Charisma. What is more important? Thanks for clearing up the "disagreement"!	/r/seduction	06/04/21 04:11 PM
1	Dominance is somewhat opposite of Charisma. What is more important? You put persuasion in quotes. Are you agreeing with me or sarcastically disagreeing?	/r/seduction	06/04/21 03:56 PM
1	Dominance is somewhat opposite of Charisma. What is more important? Dominance vs charisma is not black and white, and nor is it a tradeoff where you can only gain one by sacrificing the other. Honestly, I think you are looking at this all wrong and laboring under some misapprehensions. I find the word dominance to be misleading. It seems to me like some toxic holdover from the PUA dogma of ten years ago. You should not be trying to force it or putting on some airs of having higher social stature. What you want is to cultivate natural leadership and influence. In…	/r/seduction	06/04/21 03:18 PM
11	DON'T compliment their bodies or face, Compliment their STYLE. Yeah. From your tone of voice and body language, people can sense where the compliment is coming from. If you are just saying some shit like "You're so beautiful" because you think it will get a woman's attention then she will perceive the insincerity and resent the compliment. If she dresses differently one day or changes her hair and you sincerely say "You're so beautiful", she will probably appreciate it.	/r/seduction	30/03/21 03:33 PM
3	Is winking an effective way to show you're interested with a girl at the gym? Good conversation starters are original and timely and they leverage commonality. I like to find something about the person or the environment that you can comment on in a funny way. To "leverage commonality", you want to find something interesting that everyone probably already noticed but did not pay attention to. For example - is the gym crowded? You can say "This gym is always crowded - they should put magazines beside the machines like a dentist's waiting room". Is it empty? You can say "Wh…	/r/seduction	30/03/21 01:57 PM
1	Is winking an effective way to show you're interested with a girl at the gym? It depends on how you do it. If you try to be all seductive about it then no that would be overkill and cringey. If you give a quick subtle wink to signal that you caught her looking at you then she might smile and that's your opening to approach. If you play it goofy you could get a laugh if you do it right. Or you could just talk to her as others have said.	/r/seduction	30/03/21 01:18 PM
3	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? That's an interesting question. I would agree that negging is a fruitless and unethical technique, "being mysterious" is also a giant pile of BS, and from my own experience I think you are correct. Women enjoy conversations that are unpredictable and challenging. The surprise comes from getting out of the usual boring convo format of "what do you do?", "what are your hobbies?", "how do you know blabla person?" and into some new uncharted territory. The challenge comes from playful banter where y…	/r/seduction	30/03/21 12:18 PM
3	Be Honest: You actually don't want most of these women to be a part of your life. Like you say there are little cues you pick up on that you count as red flags and can completely destroy your initial sense of attraction. I guess what I'm saying here is that I would encourage anyone to develop their own confidence and try to have the courage to approach a person if you are interested. But we should not expect women to do it or blame them for not acting on their sense of attraction because the game is different on their side.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:51 PM
3	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? See how I push-pulled you with my mean comment and then my nice one to make you confess? Expert level flirter over here! (ง°ل͜°)ง	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:24 PM
3	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? That's one way. You can also practice on your friends. Practice in your head with people on the bus or subway. Go to r/RoastMe and practice on them like lab rats for your scientific research.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:14 PM
2	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? Yeah I saw that. I'm not trying to convict you of a crime, just trying to correct the record!	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:08 PM
5	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? Also you need to learn one thing at a time. Practice some push pull, get good at it then learn something else. It seems insurmountable at first, but if you persevere, then all the little things you learn start to add up and one day you will look back and wonder why it seemed so hard before.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:07 PM
1	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? It's not women. This is charisma in general. It's learning how to have fun with people and make great conversation. Everyone appreciates a charming person - it just seems that for women it has more impact on their feeling of romantic attraction.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 08:05 PM
5	What does the "push pull" method mean and how do I put it into practice? People in this thread are just making up answers. The term push pull has a specific meaning. It is a flirting technique. And for the record, I think it is a overrated and it only works when done in a fun, joking way. It means to emotionally push a person away and pull them in. The classic way to do this is to give a compliment (the pull) and then say something uncomplimentary (the push). For example "You know so much movie trivia! What is it like to be such a nerd?". The theory behind this is th…	/r/seduction	29/03/21 07:56 PM
1	Forget everything you read and just be human Due to COVID and other factors I only managed to attend one improv class but I do think this would be a great exercise. I joined Toastmasters and practiced improvised speaking. I even created a web app to practice alone. It's free so I can give you the link if you are interested. Eliciting emotion was a big one for me too. It took a lot of practice but I think it came down to learning how to share my own feelings with others. I think I sued to have a lot of emotional armor and that makes others …	/r/seduction	29/03/21 02:28 PM
2	Forget everything you read and just be human I did exercises to improve my sense of humor and creativity. I practiced improvized speaking A LOT to get quicker and more confident in conversation. The biggest change is hard to put into words, but I guess I would describe it as coming to understand how to have a conversation that elicits emotions rather than being factual.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 01:59 PM
11	Forget everything you read and just be human I'm gonna disagree slightly here. You "primitived" yourself after reading a ton of books. Like any kind of sport, the road to mastery is mostly practice but you still need to begin with basic technique and strategy. Speaking for myself I spent years and years getting shut down because I had no basic technique or understanding of how to build attraction with women. Once I started reading on the subject, I quickly became successful because suddenly I understood all my past failures and what I need…	/r/seduction	29/03/21 11:56 AM
1	Please Read I really need the help Hi man, I'm sorry to hear about your story. I can't say that I had such a difficult life as you but I had great difficulty making friends and building connection with women for most of my life. Eventually with a lot of struggle and trying different things I would say that I succeeded in completely turning my situation around. You are still very young and lots of time to work on yourself. If you want to talk about it feel free to DM me. Take care!	/r/seduction	29/03/21 03:14 AM
1	I know how to start a conversation but can't do much else I used to have this exact problem. You need to learn basic charm and charisma. It's not something that I can explain in a reddit comment, but it is a set of skills that you can practice and I can help you improve. If you want to work on it, DM me.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 02:57 AM
2	Tired of getting no ass I am unable your question because the answer is too obvious That makes a lot of sense. I don't like the language OP uses but misogyny means hating women. Despite his disappointment, OP has not blamed women for his problems, he hasn't been disrespectful to them or mistreated them as far as we know, and he hasn't asked for any advice about doing anything unethical. I don't see any evidence that he hates women. He just wants to get laid and that's natural for any man, especially at 19 years old.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 02:28 AM
2	Tired of getting no ass What "vague misogyny"? Dude's just thirsty and looking for some answers or support.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 02:18 AM
-2	Tired of getting no ass If he has a point to make then he should argue it constructively. This subreddit is not a place to take out his frustrations by belittling others.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 02:05 AM
1	Is there a time after which it's too late to start a conversation with someone? It's never too late and it's not weird. If he finds you attractive then he would probably be very glad to exchange a few messages and meet in person. I would recommend that you send a short message to catch up. Then find something interesting that's happening, even if there's not much due to COVID. It could be a museum visit, getting takeout from a favorite restaurant that you have not been to in a while, walk in the park, etc. Invite him and hope for the best.	/r/seduction	29/03/21 01:52 AM
1	How to make intentions clear without coming across as creepy? If you come off like a needy simp or an asshole that's trying to hide his insecurities then of course she will know it. If you learn to control yourself around a woman then she won't know for sure. In any case this is about mutual knowledge. It's not about what she knows. It's about whether she knows that you know what she knows and so on. Everybody knew the emperor had no clothes but nobody said it because they knew they'd get their head cut off. You gotta look at the chess board and play a few…	/r/seduction	26/03/21 04:02 PM
2	You attract the type of person you are. Yeah the problem is few people understand the difference between literal and figurative concepts. One person uses the idea of karma in a metaphorical way, but on hearing them, some people understand it as being a literal fact about the universe. It's the fallacy of misplaced concreteness and it can lead to no end of confusion.	/r/seduction	26/03/21 12:58 PM
10	They need you right now, but when they don’t, they’ll cast you out like a leper! I have to disagree here. Sex is a long term factor to consider in a relationship. Don't get emotionally attached to someone and then find out that you are sexually incompatible. Especially do not get married before discovering what the sex is like. This is true for men and women alike; you wouldn't want to be emotionally invested in a relationship where the woman later discovers that she doesn't enjoy being in bed with you, and then there is no sex or it becomes like a chore that she performs be…	/r/seduction	26/03/21 12:34 PM
7	How to make intentions clear without coming across as creepy? I don't think it's bizarre at all, and it's not only for the woman. It means she can reject you without actually saying it. It protects everyone. If ask her "Hey wanna bang?" and she says "Nope" then everyone knows you got rejected. If you flirt a little and she pulls away, then nobody can say for sure that you wanted to sleep with her and got rejected. This isn't bizarre. It's a skillful and diplomatic negotiation.	/r/seduction	26/03/21 02:52 AM
3	GUYS: Attraction Grows In Person You build attraction through communicating I second this. The best way to build attraction is in person. Second best way is text and phone calls. Too much contact makes you look needy but not enough and she thinks you aren't interested. You need to gauge the level of communication she wants and match it. If you only see a woman once per week then a little bit of phone or texting is needed to keep the momentum going.	/r/seduction	25/03/21 08:00 PM
15	How to make intentions clear without coming across as creepy? Here are the key principles that you need to understand: fun, gradual escalation and plausible deniability. If a woman finds you attractive at a glance in terms of looks, hygiene, body language and whatever else, then she is open to having fun with you. You talk, make jokes, tease or challenge her a little and have some banter to build up her attraction. Next you need escalate gradually. You can touch her lightly on the arm or hand, and you can even bring up matters of attraction in conversation…	/r/seduction	25/03/21 05:55 PM
1	There is no reason why you can't shed a past identity and become a new and better version of yourself. You just need to be aware of the following... Cool. Pls add me Thanks!	/r/seduction	25/03/21 02:28 PM
2	Got a reply... 2 Weeks later I have had women tell me that they don't want to spend all day texting, or that they don't like texting after a certain hour, or that they are just too tired right now. But it's never stagnant. My suspicion is that you need more creativity and banter in your texts. Is that possible? What I mean is it's not about what you say to her it's about how you say it. You take the mundane shit of your daily life or hers, or the random thoughts in your head and you just find a way to express them where the…	/r/seduction	25/03/21 02:28 PM
2	Why "just be yourself" is simultaneously both great and terrible advice... Good post. It's one of the first things that most of my coaching clients need to learn. All successful companies spend a shitload of budget on their marketing, PR and advertising. Always be yourself, but fuckin learn how to sell it.	/r/seduction	25/03/21 02:21 PM
9	Be Honest: You actually don't want most of these women to be a part of your life. It's not the same for women. They have concerns that we don't worry about. They worry about their reputation and what their social circle will think. If the world keeps branding women as sluts for following their sex drive, they'll hesitate to follow their sex drive. The risks are higher because the sexual experience is different. Bad sex for men is still OK. Bad sex for women can be painful or coercive. She might want a guy, but she'll keep a high standard, and she'll be ultra-sensitive to any …	/r/seduction	25/03/21 02:13 PM
1	Got a reply... 2 Weeks later This has all the signs of her losing interest. Im not too mad texting is boring and repetitive This is your problem. Texting is an opportunity to build attraction. If you send her fun flirty texts regularly then you can stay top of mind, and increase her interest. If not then her attraction is subject to the Law of Entropy and will fade away. You can DM me if you wanna talk specifics of building attraction by text.	/r/seduction	25/03/21 02:05 PM
1	What happens when a person smokes 20 cigarettes a day for a long period? Yeah definitely wrong sub. I just wanted to add that these problems don't occur immediately. The effects of smoking accumulate over time and holy damn your body can take punishment in your twenties that it will not endure in later years. So OP's friend looks fine now but this lifestyle will catch up to her with real consequences in the future. If OP wants to be a good friend, encourage her to quit.	/r/seduction	25/03/21 01:59 PM
2	Failed messaging You could send her another message. The situation sounds like she thinks you are just being friendly, and she does not (yet) have any particular romantic interest. She just got busy and forgot about you. I would not take this as a rejection. However if you want to date this woman then you need to stop sending friend vibes and escalate with her. You need to start having fun messages, then flirt and get a date, and then continue the usual escalation path. If you want to talk specifics you can DM m…	/r/seduction	25/03/21 01:52 PM
2	There is no reason why you can't shed a past identity and become a new and better version of yourself. You just need to be aware of the following... Yeah but it's like riding a bike or muscle memory or I don't know whatever analogy. You haven't lost those skills - they will return quickly when you focus on them again and with time you'll build to a point where everything is solidly in place. You have my sympathy because I know it's hard, but if you keep at it and don't give up, you'll achieve it.	/r/seduction	25/03/21 01:41 PM
1	The Abundance Mindset and Non-Neediness Like many things in life, attraction is something you maintain. Whether you are picking up, first date, long-term or married, you should always be exerting your charm on a woman because that is one of her main expectations. She will make an effort for you, and you will make an effort to be the fun guy that she was first attracted to. This is how she understands the dating/relationship deal, and it is how you can bring some joy into her life. You change your car's oil regularly - you don't wait u…	/r/seduction	24/03/21 02:01 PM
79	There is no reason why you can't shed a past identity and become a new and better version of yourself. You just need to be aware of the following... One thing that makes learning difficult is that the learning curve is not a straight line. When you begin learning something new, you have an initial boost of enthusiasm because it's easy to learn the intro to any subject. But then it gets hard and there is a period of struggle and failure before you start to see significant process. If you graph the learning curve, this struggle period looks like a big long dip, so it is called the valley of despair. When I first started working on my seduction…	/r/seduction	24/03/21 01:40 PM
1	For someone who WAS 12 years in PUA, not waking off but actually doing dating lots of woman!! Dude comes to a debate forum, gets mad that everyone doesn't share his opinion and decides to create his own debate forum where he can enforce his opinion. Whatever OP. If you think you can do this better then do it and see how many members you get. Maybe hire a proofreader.	/r/seduction	24/03/21 12:48 PM
2	Is talking about your hands a way of flirting? It depends on context and delivery. If it was in a context where she mentioned your hands, especially if she was teasing you, and you responded in a clowning way about how your hands could do incredible things then it could work if you have good comedic delivery. If you said it out of the blue, or your comedic delivery was not on point then it would be cringe city.	/r/seduction	23/03/21 10:26 PM
5	Tips on getting over one-itis when cutting ties isn't an option? I believe that the best cure for one-itis is meeting other women. It's easy to forget a disinterested woman when you have an interested one to preoccupy you. Also remember that when you have one-itis, you tend to put the woman on a pedestal and ignore all of her flaws. The reality is that if you did date her, you would probably see that she's not the one for you. Meet lots of women, and find the right one for you.	/r/seduction	23/03/21 08:07 PM
1	Better understanding Do you mean fictional shows that portray seduction or do you mean experts giving how-to advice?	/r/seduction	23/03/21 04:43 PM
2	Social Circle 100% this. As I improved myself and went from low charisma to high charisma, I've learned two things: My friends roast me a lot because they know that I can take it, This is a good thing because what makes you charismatic is your personality. And a big part of your personality is your flaws, shortcomings and how you deal with them. Friends don't want you to be this perfect alpha guy. They want someone who is human and who makes them feel comfortable in their own insecurities. When you own your s…	/r/seduction	23/03/21 12:45 PM
2	Do women find notes cute? If you frequently get solid eye contact from her then that's an indication that a "Hi, how's it going?" intro is probably welcome. Or you can take a clowning around approach. You could capitalize on the employee/customer dynamic by exaggerating on it. For example you open with something super formal and customer-servicey like "Hello ma'am welcome to XYZ Grocery, may I assist you in selecting your purchases?". She'd probably laugh and maybe play along with it. Other techniques would be making a f…	/r/seduction	23/03/21 12:30 PM
1	No one is going to feel sorry for you Sure!	/r/seduction	23/03/21 11:15 AM
1	Some questions I hear a lot of coaches that talk about mindset, visualization and then there are "hacks" like power poses and shit. My impression is that all of this stuff is either bullshit, or at best the benefits are exaggerated. For me, none of these things made a big difference. But I have achieved enormous improvements in my confidence and that creeping anxiety that you seem to be describing. I did it by building up my life to the point where the causes of those anxieties were alleviated. I started volun…	/r/seduction	23/03/21 02:14 AM
2	Is this way too creepy? Movies and television create so many misapprehensions about romance and seduction. You wouldn't watch Pirates of the Caribbean and believe it's how pirates were. Don't watch romance movies and believe that's how romance is.	/r/seduction	22/03/21 09:17 PM
18	How to like yourself/be happy? Yeah this is probably the wrong sub so here's my answer before mods delete this. There is a book called Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl where he basically says that you need to find self-transcending meaning in life. In other words you need something that is bigger than yourself. You can help others, do volunteer work, create art, create social media content, take care of your family, whatever. The important thing is that you devote yourself to something for unselfish reasons. You don'…	/r/seduction	22/03/21 07:01 PM
2	Seduction is only a complex subject when it revolves around women's needs. Has it occurred to you that women pursue degrees and careers because they have ambitions and motivations besides impressing men? As a pick-up artist, you should teach yourself some empathy.	/r/seduction	22/03/21 04:40 PM
3	No one is going to feel sorry for you u/Agreable_Actuator84 is right that if you have suicidal feelings then please seek help from a professional. If I can give you hope, your count is about where mine was at your age and I struggled with similar feelings. But I was able to turn things around and achieve lots of success with women. You have an advantage because the internet today provides many sources of advice and information that we did not have before. I agree with you that lots of coaches provide shitty canned strategies that do…	/r/seduction	22/03/21 02:07 PM
1	Does “yes sir!” Mean im friendzoned? It's hard to say. If she said it with a flirty look or vocal tone then it's good news. If there were no flirty overtones...then she was probably just having fun and this is not a friendzone hint. I think you should ignore your concern over this and continue as normal. Also you can turn it back on her by saying yes Ma'am next time she asks you a question.	/r/seduction	22/03/21 02:52 AM
1	I wish women would be more honest about what they found attractive You're making it black and white when it isn't. If another guy is better looking or taller or has more money, then it will surely weigh in a woman's decision. But those are not the only factors and to some degree you can compensate for your disadvantage with your good character. Think of it like a basketball player. A taller player has an advantage, but the shorter player can still overcome his disadvantage with skill.	/r/seduction	22/03/21 01:17 AM
12	I wish women would be more honest about what they found attractive Sorry dude but I think you need a reality check. You are making a broad generalization here. In my experience, most women have reasonable standards. She just wants a guy at least her height that has his life together and dresses presentably with good hygiene. If you meet those standards, her next choice is all about how you make her feel, AKA personality and humor. I've seen average guys get tons of action, and tall, attractive and affluent guys get shot down because they don't have the game to …	/r/seduction	21/03/21 02:09 PM
1	Confidence vs. Being Oblivious Great answers in this thread. I would like to add that there is a distinction between general confidence and intellectual confidence. This is a distinction that I learned from a great book on critical thinking. https://www.amazon.ca/Critical-Thinking-Taking-Professional-Personal/dp/0133115283 Confidence simply means that you follow your internal compass with little regard for those who oppose you. So by my definition your friend has high confidence. His problem is that he lacks the intellectual …	/r/seduction	21/03/21 04:09 AM
7	Becoming more physically attractive has made me realize I’m def gonna be single forever We are creatures of habit Habits can be changed. It sounds like you are making a lot of excuses to maintain your current pattern of behavior and stay in your comfort zone. You sound like an intelligent person, and you succeeded in losing weight, where most people fail. I believe that you could turn your situation around and achieve huge improvements in any part of your life that you want to. A good therapist could help you work through whatever issues are currently blocking you and with a little…	/r/seduction	21/03/21 01:25 AM
2	What do you think is the missing ingredient in most guys game? I would say banter. Lots of guys can make a woman laugh at a joke but banter is different. It's when you can have a conversation that is playful, creative and sometimes mildly confrontational. You can turn an ordinary conversation into a game or battle of wits. I don't know why this is so attractive to women. Maybe because it shows intelligence, quick thinking or empathy. Maybe because it adds challenge and uncertainty. Maybe just because it makes ordinary moments fun.	/r/seduction	19/03/21 08:40 PM
1	Is it common to not get an outright rejection? It's great that you recognize the communication issue and take ownership of it. Whatever happens with this woman, you have the humility and self-awareness to improve yourself over time. I would say that there is no harm in taking another shot. If you do then you should tell her that you realize you flubbed the first conversation but you have a crush on her and then ask her on a date. If you appreciate her friendship then you should tell her that, and tell her that you want to stay friends either…	/r/seduction	19/03/21 05:58 PM
7	6 TIPS TO IMPROVE YOUR RESULTS WITH GIRLS. Read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" if you have not already done so. It's basic but it's a good start. After that I'd say there are several sub skills that you need to develop good "social skills" and it's a matter of determining your strengths and weaknesses to find out what you need to work on. If you want to talk further, feel free to DM me.	/r/seduction	19/03/21 04:34 PM
3	what's the difference between a friendly conversation and a seductive one Yeah. In Television and movies there is this trope of the sexy, confident guy that transfixes a woman with his seductive gaze. In my experience this is pure fiction. Women like a fun, goofy and genuine guy. When you are with a woman, focus on having a fun and creative conversation, listen to her, and "be yourself". Since I learned how to actually talk to women, I have had much success and have never once worried about what my facial expression is.	/r/seduction	19/03/21 03:58 PM
3	Is it common to not get an outright rejection? Yes it's very common. In my experience it is more common for women to be evasive than to give a clear rejection. There are several reasons for this. A natural desire to not hurt your feelings, youth, inexperience and not knowing how to handle a conversation where she rejects a man, and unfortunately many women fear verbal abuse or violence if they reject a man outright. If she has been your friend for a while and knows your character then this is unlikely, but for a woman who doesn't know you, t…	/r/seduction	19/03/21 03:43 PM
2	How to give a compliment without coming off as try-hard, insincere or creepy Nope. Your intentions are one thing. How others perceive your actions is a completely different matter. Edit: As someone who used to be extremely uncharismatic, I can attest that trying to "be genuine" does not get you very far if you lack empathy and communication skills.	/r/seduction	19/03/21 03:21 PM