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Then you aren’t a golddigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:16 PM
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Sounds like you did more than just go on dates. You either split or benefited his life in some way. The former doesn’t get married. And if your husband waited 1 year to sleep with you for non-religious reasons. Then kudos to you. You are the exception…. Because current marriage rates are declining
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:24 PM
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The issue is the woman never has a timeline. So she just endlessly dates that man for like 3 months having all her dates and food and experiences paid for…. And she’s still deciding if she likes the guy. That’s gold digging by another name.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:11 AM
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They’re still drugs. That was the point. Not how bad or good they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:48 AM
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Incorrect each state has a different drug epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:02 AM
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I guess that’s how it is in Canada. In USA we have declared epidemics and streets literal streetof people who use them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:17 PM
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There are more drugs than pot. Like coke and crack and fentanyl, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:04 PM
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You probably never heard anyone talk about American friendship culture. In America, the friend groups are usually couples hanging out with couples. It is not common for a single man and a single woman to have a single friend group, where they all hang out while they’re all still single usually in that situation they are friends with benefits or someone is screwing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:23 PM
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I’m glad you’re optimistic. So far my experiences have not matched that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:45 PM
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The 9 to 5 was an example on average most men are probably working if they’re full-time 50 to 60 hours a week. Yeah, she wants to go to the rave, climb a mountain and do it on her only day off with her boyfriend, and I stress with her boyfriend. If you weren’t there, she may not actually do it. You’re giving her a place to sleep for the night, making it feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:39 PM
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Just so you know for the record. I have brought my girlfriend to Dnd, but she was not into Dnd. My DM had his girlfriend there and then ever three other guys so the only two women that were in the Dnd group was my girlfriend and the dungeon Masters. For the other three guys there it might as well have been zero females. It’s not like our girlfriends we’re gonna bring their friends to hang out with us at Dnd. I’ll give you another example. Finding another Dnd group at least for me here in my stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:37 PM
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I understand that. The issue is if you like niches that don’t have women. If you’re an avg guy who who works a regular 9-5 job and your niche is gaming. You’re not going to tournaments because of your job
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:22 PM
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What good is being competitive in a field with no women? I’m the best dressed man for no one… There is no other option than to force yourself to be apart of a niche that has women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:20 PM
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No not all niches are sausage fests, but the men who are struggling are in those niches because it appeals to them. Being a junkie is a popular niche. It’s relatable to a very wide percentage of the population. Almost everyone does drugs. The amount and dependence is what is crucial. Non-junkies will hang with junkies if there is a benefit. But even in your reply about going to tournaments, you’re only talking about top level gamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 09:05 PM
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The culture is that mixed friend groups are not common. As in single females are not hanging out with single males. They almost always hang out as couples. Also you are talking from a young person perspective. It’s harder to make/find friends when you’re older. A man who’s into gaming and technology… isn’t going to find a friend group with an abundance of women who are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:59 PM
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Instantly stopped reading at “not American”. You have no context how it is here. Europe has more social culture than American. i.E drinking age
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:40 PM
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You are a woman. You do not date women or have single male friends. Because it’s easy for you, your blind to the people who are struggling. Because you’re not hanging out with people who aren’t popular or non charismatic. You may think you are, bit you aren’t. You have to be charismatic to have female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:11 PM
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You taking specific comments and extrapolating a lot of data that can’t be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:52 AM
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When you read my comment let me know. I already refuted that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:55 PM
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That’s on a wide scale averaging out if you only look at numbers. It doesn’t tell the tale on an individual level. How Remy and Eva interacted on the date if the man is expected to pay for the date. How does the women’s net benefit play a factor here? Whether the man’s at benefit or the female is doesn’t matter if the man is paying for the first date. Either he can pay or split. Either he has money to date or he doesn’t. Even then that doesn’t matter we’re only talking about people who are on da…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:08 PM
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That’s quality of life. That’s not 1 on 1 dating personality between the genders. You are only listing the advantages women have living in Europe. American women have similar advantages. But personality wise they are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:32 PM
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Exception’s exist. Even more so on the world wide web.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:54 PM
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Yes. American dating is worse than European dating… not by much from what I gather
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:14 AM
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Yeah, thats muscle not fat. A person who is 300 pounds of muscle is not obese. A person with 300 pounds of fat is. Thats like saying lizzo and arnold at his peak…. Could lift the same weight…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:36 PM
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How many obese women win the gold medal in the olympics???? Oh wait…. Why are you pretending they can?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:11 PM
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In America yes. In other countries the life expectancy is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:43 PM
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So now you’re mad. I wish that one day we can have a civil discourse that doesn’t devolve into someone trying to push an agenda. I went to med school, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:42 PM
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Incorrect, your medical knowledge is lacking. Obese dies at 65 because of the amount of work the heart has to do to maintain that weight. Ladies like you posted die sooner than 65.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:31 PM
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Nope, medical records and the obituaries prove it. The only BS is you not fact checking yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:27 PM
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She won’t live pass 65
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:12 PM
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Oh? Show me an obese woman who has lived to 85-90. Because I see plenty non-obese old folks…. Obese old folks… I haven’t encountered yet. When I do I’ll reconsider “obese” to be healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:10 PM
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When I said low effort, I didn’t mean it in a negative context. It’s more lowkey is better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:30 PM
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You are 100% correct. Coffee dates are just low effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:41 PM
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The problem with your premise is that women don’t approach. “Bad guys” are aggressive and assertive so they eventually luck out. Those happen to be the traits women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:30 PM
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The extended forehead and her smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:43 PM
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Well i’ll say it’s balanced, the ones who saved it during childhood. Sells it to the ones who wish they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 06:48 PM
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She was a very logical woman, she was also a college professor. Uber feminist, which was funny to me. We connected on a lot of levels and we complimented each other well socially. We talked about our future about having at least 3 kids… and she was taking care of business at the start when we were living together. She cooked regularly and got the groceries. But about 4 months in she got really lazy and wouldn’t wash her own dishes (we agreed to do our own dishes) and wouldn’t pick up after herse…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:12 PM
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Ahhh you’re old school, you got married before the dynamics changed. Women aren’t like your wife anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:01 PM
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She’s projecting, she thinks most men are nerds. People sell their collections as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:22 AM
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Money is currency to survive or thrive. Sounds like you never spend your money on your dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:19 AM
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Sounds like he’s the only one spending money in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:19 AM
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So you’re not married…. Free bar weddings are super expensive. The issue I have with weddings is that they are super expensive. You can put a down payment on a house or rental property. Instead you throw one big party that people will eventually forget. the pragmatic economist in me can’t do it. I’d rather retire early personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:14 AM
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Men don’t plan the wedding. You can voice your opinion and make a suggestion but it’s her planning the details. She wants her theme for a wedding, I want my theme. Guess who’s winning that one….
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:04 AM
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That is an empty platitude. Most men on average don’t care about the wedding because the wife is normally the one pushing for it. You’re grand standing, and that makes it even less believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:02 AM
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Since men don’t plan the wedding…… why would I? If I’m not mistaken the wedding is about the wife. Hence the theatrical entrance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:47 PM
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Yea… young couples…. As in already in a relationship where it’s acceptable to split the bill. No one is talking about couples. We are talking about two strangers on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 11:47 PM
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For who? Definitely not the man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:47 PM
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Sanity and freedom of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:46 PM
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Must be nice when you’re a girl asking girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:24 PM
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Can confirm. Mine expected me to do all the housework chores, and pay 70% of the bills as well as pay the bill when we went out. And all she did was scroll through instagram, sleep all day and ONLY listen to NPR.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:16 PM
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You can just google, guy wants to split bill…. To see why that’s false.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:13 PM
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Well you’ve taken your first step towards the truth. This is the realization most men have after online dating for a while. Hell even when you cold approach. Congratulations you are now free. Free of obligation, free of the dating burden, free of paying for dates. One day you will try again, only do coffee dates and drinks for first dates that will weed out the girls that have you as “free lunch” in their phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:04 PM
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Once again you interpreted this incorrectly. You keep assuming that Jack is passive and reserved and that he hasn’t flirted with her. That’s not what demisexual is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:20 PM
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That’s not correct. If jack asked first he might have gotten her. He wanted to wait for compatibility first. The other guy asks first…..checks compatibility later. Nothing to do with her liking the assertive man more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:14 PM
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Thank god someone said it. The situation most of the time is relative to their location
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:11 PM
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Sure it’s true for reserved men. Demisexual men aren’t reserved men. Women select from the best offer presented to them. It’s disingenuous to say she didn’t prefer cautious men…. She was never approached by one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:56 PM
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No, she show’s attention to the man who moves faster because he’s forcing the interaction and making her decide her feelings then. Jack also knows she has the same personality because they are the same friend group and has hung around for a long enough period of time for him to know her personality to be attracted. Demisexual will only develop feelings from someone close.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:49 PM
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Maybe for a man. A female has very little to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:28 PM
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In case you didn’t read the OP. Jack liked Jane because he developed feelings for her over time. Meaning he watched her observed her and deemed her to be compatible with him. Jane hasn’t paid any attention to Jack and has no idea how compatible they would be. Jack as a demisexual would have observed all the girls in the group and flirted with the one that matched him the most. So you can’t say they’re not a good match when they have the same personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:27 PM
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It’s easy to want top rated restaurants and luxury condos when you’re not paying for it. If I had free reign, I too would only love the finer things in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:55 PM
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Hook up culture, is only applicable to women at this point. For men it’s trying to even get a date culture (or passport dating now)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:41 PM
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You were only paying attention to the top men at your school, guaranteed you had boys crushing on you. You probably ignored them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:09 PM
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Except the main complaint guys will get from women is that they are too nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 12:01 PM
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Better communication for networking their job. Socially they are average unless they’re in sales.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:32 AM
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Too busy working late to support her partner. That’s why they are mostly single….. they’re always working just like a career man would be they don’t have time for it. And women don’t like supporting/paying for men, so unless it’s a sugar mama relationship….. they’re not doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:30 AM
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If you disagree every day with your partner, that’s a problem. No one is talking about the occasional minor disagreement every couple weeks, that any normal couple and marriage has. But constant disagreements and constant challenges is an issue. That is what we face with a “boss babe” ad mentioned in OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:18 AM
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She never read the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:12 AM
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So, the women in your family who had a long marriage, didn’t say that advice …. But the married women who divorced did….. hmmmm…. Do you see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:43 AM
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Feminist women want to be men, liberal men act like women because they listen to their complaints and comply.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:09 PM
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I never described the type of woman I want. You are projecting and distorting the definition of what a feminine woman is. If that was the only choice between her and a bossy woman who is too good to help out with housework and isn’t nurturing/comforting at all to her partner…. Who still needs her man to protect her and pay all the bills….. I’ll take the former… at least it’s a fair deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:11 PM
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The issue is, you’re taking advice about men, from women who are un-attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:51 PM
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Yea, when men want feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:48 PM
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Queens are masculine. Learn history.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:47 PM
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Proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:43 PM
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No, I’m pointing out that you don’t have any way to prove the number. Because you can’t prove it, you are only guessing based on your immediate environment how often they appear. The issue is, you don’t date women… so you don’t have the same interactions that men would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:17 PM
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Only 0.7% of men in USA are incarcerated according to the government census. That means less than 1% of men are committing serious crimes that requires prison. Thats about 1.3 million men. That means 99.3% of men are generally law abiding citizens who don’t commit crimes that require them to be incarcerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:13 PM
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Those women are single for a reason. They’re probably more manly than most men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:53 PM
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You’re assuming the number is 10% and is low
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:34 AM
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I didn’t read that comment as saying it’s full of egomaniacs… I read it as there are egomaniacs are in his level as well, as egomaniacs comprise all levels. Because we don’t know his level. There isn’t a looks threshold for being/not being one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:01 AM
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Why do you assume he’s only asking egomaniacs? What about his comments says, “ only egomaniacs turn me down”? I don’t see that in his statement anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:49 PM
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Changing the definition of the word is meaningless. No one will understand what I mean if I say submissive other than you or me if I “redefine it” just use the dictionary definition. Or use the word you’re trying to describe….”Equal”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:11 PM
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It does actually. Because it’s pointing out that only one guy has told you this. It’s also pointing out that you don’t face the abuse and harassment that, “men” have told you about. Because you would have used an anecdote on your experience. Instead you are parroting something you heard and didn’t verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:51 PM
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I’m hoping you’re 65 saying. Because I’m in my 40s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:02 PM
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Well yes feminist saying all men are bad is bs. this is a friendly site, only about 2 million men are in prison. Out of at least 150million men in the u.s Or you can check the census yourself… which I know you won’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:45 PM
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Read my later responses which address this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 06:42 PM
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You are redefining Submissive to fit your altered definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:26 PM
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Only 0.7% of all men in USA are incarcerated. You are only referring to less than 1% of the population when referring to bad men. You can find this stats on the census.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:25 PM
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I was using your topic and talking about similar age unmarried women. Your point was that men of that age are all disabled and autistic. My point was that women of that age are all selfish and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:23 PM
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You’re supposed to get help with raising the family. Current marriage today is, man pays all the bills and housework while ordering out food for the family. If the wife even works she doesn’t contribute to the house and puts off child care to the husband any chance she gets. Then she’ll bitch about how she has to do everything and grow resentful of the husband, because he’s doing it all without complaining…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:11 PM
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The women aren’t any better at that age usually. Men, for example hate selfish bitter women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:05 PM
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That sounds biased. It almost sounds like you’re married and you were the one distancing yourself from your single friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:04 PM
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I don’t even know where to even start. Every man who read this statement instantly laughed. Yes he hides his happiness so that his friends won’t get jealous that, he has to ask his wife for permission to leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:59 AM
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Specific means narrowing down your claim and information. “If” isn’t specific and doesn’t describe the specific men you’re talking about. Come on… just describe the specific guy you’re referring to. Saying “most guys is still referring to greater than 50% of men. If men were as evil as you imagine there would be no feminism. You would not be able to criticize men without being jailed. And if all men were the same there would be no gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 11:48 AM
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No, being specific narrows down to the actual problematic men, and allows people to address the real concerns with those specific issues. Aren’t you tired of being attacked by random commenters over statements you know to be true? Just be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 09:43 PM
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Yup, my statement still holds. You made no effort to differentiate the men you are talking about. So if all guys were the same there would be no gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:25 PM
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Not autism or Down syndrome. The men only can relate to men. Think of guys who only have video games and anime as a hobby. Not a lot of women to talk or relate to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:45 PM
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“Guy’s want to get offended when people tell them to just go pay a hooker….” Sounds like you are generalizing all men to me, calling them the same. So if all men were the same, there wouldn’t be gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:43 PM
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So you were able to hold a non-sexual conversation with a girl. Charisma. The guy’s complaining here can’t even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:36 PM
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In order to date at all you have to be charismatic. You didn’t walk up to the girls “you dated down with” and just say…. “Want some fuck?” You had confidence issues for sure, but you had charisma. Especially if you were in a series of relationships. I’m experienced as well, I’ve been on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:32 PM
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It’s almost like… different men have different needs for sex. If all men were the same there would be no gay men. The answer is in your face yet you refuse to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:28 PM
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Ah, so you got out of the dating market early. You’re charismatic and now lecturing people who aren’t you, why they are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:24 PM
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This is always said by people who don’t date women. Thus don’t understand the scope of what it takes to be attractive. Talk to butch lesbians see if their experience lines up with what guys are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:15 PM
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Yes, stats and statistics provided by the census…. Does work that way. At least here in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:10 PM
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Only 0.7% of the total male population in USA is incarcerated. Meaning that less than 1% of men are committing crimes worth be jailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:06 PM
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No, just certain commenters who have an agenda
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:04 PM
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Only 0.7 of the total male population in usa is incarcerated
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:07 AM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One mans trash is another mans treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:26 AM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One mans trash is another mans treasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:26 AM
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Also only 0.7 percent of men are in USA are incarcerated. So don’t let the gaslight you into thinking all men are criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:23 AM
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My life would improve drastically no doubt about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:21 AM
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The percentage of men from total society who are in jail is 0.7 here is a reputable source… the government That means you’re describing less than 1% of the male population. Anyway, women can pick up on guys who are misogynistic right? So if she’s with him then she knows how he is. So either she likes how he treats her or she likes how he fucks her. She can always break up with him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 08:55 PM
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You’re thinking of aggressive in the violent sense. Aggressive also means forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:24 PM
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Yea, charismatic men get women because they are more aggressive than the average man. You can disagree if you want, but the average city guy doesn’t approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:12 PM
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Careful that’s chad territory
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:18 PM
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Welcome to reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:17 PM
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It is not. If you grew up in a single mom household, you definitely were lied to, because the mom tries and molds you to the guy she wished she had. My mom never told me about dating, or about abusive women. I learned that the hard way after a false paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:40 PM
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Not hot…. They are attractive. It’s who they consider attractive is hot to them. You are imagining models and 10/10 women. As an example I don’t think Kim K is hot. Plenty of others do. Lizzio is hot to me, not many others find her hot. So it’s subjective. They are only approaching girls they are attracted to. If they didn’t find them attractive then there’s no incentive, other than the person being a scam artist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:47 PM
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No, because I’m still getting laid while playing games. Sometimes gf even joins in. As long as it’s a greater than 1% chance I will do as I please
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:55 AM
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I understand that. It’s a moot point… because if the gf/wife didn’t trust his “leadership” or didn’t feel secure with him while in the relationship….. there would be no relationship. If she wants to act as the “leader” a masculine trait. She would then get with a submissive guy who wants to be lead. Either way she would only be in a relationship with a guy she likes. Doesn’t matter if she’s smarter. She Choose Him. If she regrets being with him, she will break up with him. In what situation woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:26 AM
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Yes even then. She had to consent to the relationship. She had to vet him when they went on dates. Unless she’s being blackmailed or forced to be in the relationship. She chose to be with that person because she likes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:53 PM
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You’re failing the premise here. If she’s already in a relationship with him, then she already approved of his leadership and style…. That’s why they’re a couple. If she didn’t…. She wouldn’t have been in the relationship so it’s a moot point. If she’s not happy she will leave or monkey branch to another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 08:53 PM
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My type is pretty much non-fat girls. Non-fat girls never show any active interest. Fat girls do though. They chase me pretty hard. I’m not fat and I’m in shape and I make low 6 figures and I’m 6’3. So no don’t start with the strawman about me being the issue. I said non-fat don’t “Show active” interest. Not that they aren’t interested. That’s an example of reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:25 PM
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But if you’re not friends with women how else can you prove your not misogynistic? Don’t the women here say that their partners are their bffs. Doesn’t that mean they went fishing from the friendzone? How else are you supposed to attract women if not their friends? Now if I approach a girl I think is cool she will think I Think she’s a flesh light because im attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 01:27 AM
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There is no one correct way to have a relationship, and you are supposed to steelman the argument not take the weakest interpretation. You would cater to someone you want to keep and you want to appeal to. You are doing this because they are already doing the things you like in a partner. That is whats implied. If you don’t want to cater to them. Then don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:33 PM
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Have a healthy dialogue with your partner about what they expect from a wife and what you expect from a husband. Then you’ll have wife qualities that suits your partner. Because wife quality definitions vary by individual. edit 1: if this triggers you (lol) then you’re effectively saying you hate healthy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:26 AM
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Only if you think a wife is a bangmaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 02:19 AM
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Just exhibit wife qualities to the point where the man feels like he’s missing out by not marrying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:34 PM
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If she was pure FDS, it’s because he has a kink involving chastity cages. Otherwise she somehow gives him a career advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:30 PM
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Your statement presupposes that men who can’t get dates are mentally ill. That is a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:08 PM
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The woman in question most likely doesn’t display/show any wife qualities if they don’t live with them. If they live with them, it’s probably a family thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:33 PM
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Western women see men as entertainment. So all the qualities you listed fit,feminine and friendly displays traits of willingness to make a relationship work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:44 PM
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They hated him because he spoke the truth!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:40 PM
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Good luck, holding women accountable is grounds for divorce lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:36 PM
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It would only matter if It was something I really wanted to do. If it was then that’s a deal breaker, and we would have had issues before we became bf/gf. That would have been found out during the dating phase through vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:06 PM
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Women would start to be more agreeable and would pursue men. Mainly due to men not having any incentive to date if it’s not for kids. There would be more mixed friend groups… possibly. Porn would cease to be profitable by its current metrics. Marketing would start to target men again instead of women since most of the man’s resources would be going back to himself instead of dating. With dating on a massive decline restaurant’s and eating out would be on a decline. Bars and clubs would start to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:58 PM
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Your experience may vary, it’s the common trend for me when a girl is into me. Before I realized how a girl acts when interested it used to take 2-3 dates
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:13 PM
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You do know these are developed countries, the exploitation talking point is really only said by jealous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:31 PM
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That’s about average for a girl who’s interested in you. That’s about the same rate for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:50 PM
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Thats the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:48 PM
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Easy, date a non-western woman overseas and see how magical it is to meet a woman who actually puts in equal effort. You take her on a date, the second date she COOKS for you etc. better marriage rates on foreign women than domestic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:46 PM
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I agree that orgasms are fun, in a small amount. Too many and you hit a dopamine wall of diminishing returns.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:32 AM
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The women you wish to enlighten will not listen, for they only care about being right… not understanding. If they cared they’d provide evidence, yet they do not. They only parrot what other women have said and they don’t bother to verify because….”believe all women”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:11 AM
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What made the women horny….. she didn’t spontaneously become horny looking at paint dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 12:54 AM
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And yet women still date men… which is my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:57 PM
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But just to be clear specifically I am talking about independent women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:04 PM
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I can’t see a future where women are okay with sexbots as a companion. I can’t even conceive the idea. Mainly due to women having a reactive sex drive. Women don’t just get turned on without outside stimulation normally. A sexbot won’t seduce her, at best it’ll be an overpriced chatbot to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:45 PM
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Unpopular opinion but this will happen. The current generation of men won’t notice a difference. The new generation of men growing up with ai and sex bots will see it as normal. If women cannot provide anything the ai or sex robots can’t offer then the men will go with what’s easier. A sex bot wont get “sore” and is only a one time payment. Add Ai to the sex bot and relationship needs will be covered except for children. A sex bot won’t give baby trap you or ask for alimony. Traditional women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:12 PM
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That only applies to foreign men marrying American women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:19 PM
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Men with a reputation to uphold would never. Look at how people are/were clowning trump for stormy daniels. Imagine if he married her it would have been worse. Your partner represents you when yall are together.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:58 AM
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That’s like saying, are you poor? Just become rich! Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:31 AM
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Truth is fat women are seen as easy to sleep with. So men who have low confidence or just want an easy lay target them. Easy = attractive. Less effort and guys won’t care if she rejects him or drops him because he was never serious about her. If she has a great personality and he introduces her to his friends then he sees wife qualities in her other than that. Fwb. If you respond to me trying to defend dating fat women, I will just assume you are in fact either a fat women or you are dating one …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:11 AM
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Women don’t take sexual initiative, they expect you as man to. Do what you will with that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 08:40 PM
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Chads get married to the exact women they want. They just aren’t going to be monogamous. They don’t have to be. Chads would still want a family and his own kids to raise. No one is thinking of a chad at age 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:25 PM
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No he’s in a relationship and he’s still screwing his fwb. You act like mistresses aren’t a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:20 PM
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No, the redpill guys complained that the top 20% guys got to pump and dump. Because they wanted to as well. They called the top 20% guys chads, they still had relationships. They just would sleep with multiple women on a rotation. The other women in most cases knew he was sleeping around, but he’s chad so they didn’t want to give him up or the lifestyle he provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:17 PM
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The top 20% of men are in that 30%. You have to have money to be in a relationship. Being top 20% just means you don’t have to be monogamous. So no, it’s not 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:09 PM
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Women in general never take initiative on dates. The ones who do tend to be more masculine in nature. They will always blame you as the reason it never worked out or clicked. Have you ever encountered a sexual forward woman who you weren’t already sexual with? Didn’t think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:37 AM
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Now you are arguing to be right. In other words you are ego arguing. If you actually cared you would ask or look for explanations as to why the birth rate is falling. If you used basic logic you’d realize that you can’t have babies, if you’re not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:14 AM
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Except all western countries are facing a birth decline, which shows the commonality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:06 AM
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The PEW study was done in America. So it’s a reflection of western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:47 AM
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When talking about the average across the nation and not just one city or town…. Then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:40 AM
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If pew research is to be believed, that’s incorrect, since only 30% of men are in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 01:22 AM
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12 dates in a week at a minimum of 10$ is 120$ a week. 480$ a month, but most dates range towards 40 - 50$ a date. It adds up, she would quickly date with a purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:50 PM
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I’m willing to stake my life, that she would not want to do so if she had to invest financially on every date she went on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:26 PM
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She probably had these guys listed as “free meal” in her phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:11 PM
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Live in a major city, and hangout with friends who also live in a major city. Small towns and suburbs are self selecting. You will notice a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:32 PM
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Yes I have, and those dates never went to a relationship. Also explain what you mean by “ insist”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:10 PM
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Lmao at their intuition is a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:28 PM
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Well, more reasons why men should look for love outside the U.S. it wasn’t for lack of trying that I could not find a woman who would be more equitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:24 PM
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You are claiming that I only choose women who expect men to pay. It’s the social and cultural norm here in America. Finding a woman who wants to do 50/50 is rare. I have not nor have anyone else I have associated with have found such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:17 PM
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Sure, I guess me, my friends and co-workers and college friends who got married… are all lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:59 PM
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Outside of birthdays and anniversaries… pretty much nothing. That’s been the trend since I first started dating at 14 and continued 25 years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:55 PM
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Yes. Maybe even lower her attractiveness. All that tells me is that she won’t have time for the relationship and she won’t want to start a family due to her career. Unless she is also willing to spend money on me in the relationship outside of birthdays and anniversaries her money is meaningless because she’s going to want me to shoulder 95% of the costs. Remember women won’t seriously date men who make less than them. (Some exceptions may apply).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:51 PM
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The same issue with American women not wanting to cook and clean for their boyfriend. An equivalent exchange imo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:42 PM
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I can’t be anymore clearer. USA is #1 GDP. Trying to say a country is poor compared to USA is asinine, and an incorrect way to measure actual wealth of the nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 12:25 AM
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Well can’t help it if the point flies over your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:44 PM
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That means all countries look like third world nations compared to USA….
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:25 PM
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If that is what you declare you are traveling for. See the difference. OP declared his intention from the start. Ascribing other traits and possibilities to something not declared is seen as crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:25 PM
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The only relevant part is that he’s traveling. You would not bring this up if it was a girls trip. He’s traveling to find a wife and a new place to live. He’s moving out of America…. Not just visiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:08 PM
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America is the economic power of the world. Every country’s GDP will be less with the exception of China.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:57 PM
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That’s not relevant to the topic though. OP isn’t talking about doing anything illegal. It’s bringing up an irrelevant statement and stat. No one here is advocating for pedophilla or sex trafficing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 05:56 PM
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They aren’t going up to women and complaining to them. They complain when asked or prompted. That’s the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:40 PM
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I see you purposely missed the point. It’s like someone who tells you they buy name brand shoes, vs someone who wears them and you notice their shoes. If you have to tell people unprovoked and unprompted that shows in their personality. One is doing it for attention the other is living their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 01:28 PM
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The difference is I was specific in whom I was talking about, where as you generalized all. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:00 AM
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Accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 10:19 PM
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OMG you found our KING. This man IS the KING of all men. HE SPEAKS for us ALL. His view and words represents all men in your life too…. Sounds ridiculous right? Men aren’t a Hive mind, a male teenager doesn’t think the same as a midlife man nor do they act the same. People react and learn from their environments. A man from Mexico isn’t going to have the same mindset as someone born in China. Take it with a grain of salt… it could be true for the guys he knows in his area and age range. But you …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 10:18 PM
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It matters because she will convince others and perpetuate the cycle. You might not think it matters…. But it really does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:46 PM
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I think the most upsetting thing, is that the people who will use the previous study won’t bother to see that it’s erroneous. Come 2 months from now that study will pop up again and some feminist will argue until they are blue in the face how they are still right…. Because it justifies their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:33 PM
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On the flip side it also indicates that the woman isn’t doing anything that indicates to him that she will try to keep up her seduction of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:20 PM
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This sub forbids giving advice. So all I’ll say is I found women that were compatible with my lifestyle. I like to game so I was able to find a woman who was interested in gaming and going to the casinos with me and is a fwb. She’s fine with me sleeping with others as long as I give her a heads up. Sometimes she likes to join. As long as she’s not bored she’s happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:34 PM
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Lifestyle is the current life you’re living. Do you enjoy your life? Will someone else want to live your life with you? Ask yourself that question and you’ll have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:06 PM
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This is the question that will inevitably lead to PUA. The simple answer, date around until you meet a girl that is interested in a Fwb situation. You are ultimately asking how to be attractive. Women like men with an attractive lifestyle(big),personality(big) and looks(flexible if the other 2 are good). If you’re great at sex and can cause them to orgasm then they have a reason to have you as a fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:01 AM
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Thank you for your comments. Back then we were too poor to afford therapy. So had to deal with it the best I could. The issue was she was a trusted person. My mom told her parents as far as I knew. No police report though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:54 PM
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It happened when I was a child. I was too young to fully understand what happened. I only knew it was bad because of how my mom reacted when she saw her on me and what she was doing. It was a rough childhood, but I eventually learned to not be defined by my trauma and to move past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:56 PM
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How many kids reported sexual assault?…. See the flaw in your statement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:31 AM
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Interesting you’re victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 03:29 AM
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No I didn’t. You’re just defensive because it applies to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:43 AM
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It is because kids, don’t know what’s normal. So they don’t/won’t understand if they’re being abused because they have no standard for such. Due to that they won’t tell their parents because they don’t think it’s something to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:42 AM
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You want a source for people who are not reported? Well me, I am the source for my experience. After my mom caught the woman res handed we never reported her to the police, even though she was 16 and I was 5. Men are caught because others report them…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 02:37 AM
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Men are reported more* I say this as someone who was a victim from a female babysitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:40 AM
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There’s a whole industry based on that in jamaica, look up rentadread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:28 AM
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I forgot all women are wholesome and there never any female pedophiles…. Except all the teachers that got exposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 01:27 AM
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Attractive in this case is looks + personality traits. The problem is they choose men with the same traits that is exciting. This only applies to professional daters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:23 AM
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My hypothesis: The average man doesn’t know how to. The best line they have is Hi. That’s it… most women make it feel like pulling teeth when trying to approach. The man normally has to carry the conversation until the woman is interested…. Which is hard if you don’t know her. The average man is afraid of losing his job/friend group so he’s going to be risk averse. He will normally only make a move if he knows it’s a sure thing. Finally… no one likes getting constant rejection and since women wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:20 AM
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Also I was a Boy Scout growing up. So no, you can’t tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 04:11 AM
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Masculine by your feminine standards. He is right about those being boomer hobbies. Something tells me you’re not on tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 01:39 AM
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Well my married millennial friends echo their statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:32 PM
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I personally don’t. If I’m not living with you and we only hang out to bang…. Then it’s not a relationship because fwb doesn’t mean exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 08:31 PM
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If you google how most men view marriage, and their wives your description is pretty much correct .
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:34 PM
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Single implies I can still have FWB. I’d only get in a relationship if she benefit my life and makes it easier. If she’s not doing that there is literally no point to the relationship. If she makes my life harder I don’t need her. I’m at the point in my life where sex is a garnish to my life and not a necessity. So I’d choose single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 07:27 PM
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If you’re only trying to date, do whatever you want. Women with money rarely spend it on the man in the relationship. They also are normally career women and the relationship usually suffers because they put their job before the marriage. Look up statistics on how long doctors who marry doctors stay married… divorce is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:50 PM
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Cardi-B sings she doesn’t cook or clean, there are videos proving she does in her marriage/relationship. Artist sing what people want to hear. Next you’ll say weird AL rides “white and dirty”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 12:03 PM
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Your premise only works if Redpillers only slept with virgins. They do not, by the time a redpiller is sleeping with them they’re already into or have already been into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 10:47 AM
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I think you’re missing the point. Those women who find men who clean attractive… are already in a relationship with that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:32 PM
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The topic. Which is about women claiming to find men who clean attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:27 PM
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A guy would just sleep with who he finds attractive. Not sure I get your other point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 08:22 PM
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In order to see the man do housework you’d have to be in his house. So then unless it’s family, it means they’re already sleeping with that man. Meaning she found him attractive before she saw him cleaning. I normally don’t see women swooning over janitors and custodians.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 07:56 PM
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The simple answer. Money. The long answer. That man has a lifestyle they want to live. They figure they can just cheat and not care. If you’re partner stops fucking you…. They are fucking someone else. Don’t listen to the lies of them saying their libido is low, it’s all cap to make you feel bad and allow them to take advantage of you. If a woman’s sexuality is reactive, and nothing you do as a husband elicits that response…. It’s because someone else is, and they’re doing a better job.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 02:25 PM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The only men that matter are the ones who are attractive to those women. Those men have to find those women attractive. If they are men making over 100k they’ll have the best of the best options. So those older women are still competing with younger women. And when Fertility is a consideration….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 03:42 AM
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She believes all men are a hive mind. Guilty until proven innocent amiright?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:33 PM
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Because when you’re in a relationship, typically the woman rarely spends money on the man. Outside of maybe his birthday and Christmas and anniversaries where he will get socks. Normally its the man paying for everything. Men will randomly give gifts and are normally the ones who pay when the couple goes out. I can’t think of a time in my relationships where my GF took me out to dinner and payed…. When it wasn’t my birthday. Want to go on a trip: Split the bill? Nope Bills: 50/50? Nope. Women to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 12:14 PM
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Yes, he would have. He was a very desirable bachelor and well respected in his community. His whole advice was telling you to take accountability for your actions. Understand what I’m saying…. He learned why he was unsuccessful….. and applied his own advice. Just because in the past his marriage failed, doesn’t mean he is incapable of learning what went wrong. He had lots of women vying for him, he proved that. His current relationships (Predeath) were mostly short term, due to his obvious healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:08 PM
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Because he learned why his marriage wasn’t a success owned up to it and improved himself. He then was able to be successful in his other relationships. since he already had kids he didn’t want to be married for personal reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:40 AM
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I’m from the old days. You are right though, trp that’s mentioned here is very different from the before times.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:34 AM
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I know, it’s a huge tragedy. The fact that Tate is filling the void is regrettable. He is better than F&F though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:29 AM
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They did, he acknowledged it and addressed what the issues were. He then repaired his relationships with his ex-wife and daughter. He spoke from experience because he saw what went wrong with himself and fixed it. I’d rather take advice from someone who has experience than someone who only has a hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:15 AM
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1.Not true, he even tells of his beta days and how he first gained interest in wanting to kickbox. 2.It’s true to their perception of the experience of that person. Where both sides err is that they treat everyone as their worst experience of that gender rather than learn the nuances of each person. If they want to go around life looking for the worse in people then they will find it. There isn’t a person perfect enough who can’t be criticized in some way. But the radicals hold it against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 05:04 AM
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Andrew Tate, is just how TRP was at its start. He can resonate with the struggles of men/boys because he’s been there. He was Beta billy at one point. He’s speaking from his experience on his observations and his treatment from women. People listen to those who understand or demonstrate understanding of their situation. If the men/boys were not being treated in the way he describes…. They would have majorly rejected his sayings/teachings. Just like how men in general reject any relationship advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 08:26 PM
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As long as she can cook and doesn’t mind cleaning and is as fit as me…. I’m happy. If she is a similar type of gamer as me even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 10:09 PM
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If you’re a man who’s had sex with 1-5 partners over the course of 40 years, that’s probably average. 6+ and you’re in the top percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:04 AM
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I’m pointing out the irony of the previous comment who called men who wanted women to be as fit as them shallow, and showing that the women are doing the same thing. Your grossness cut off is the same as men having a physical type.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 09:46 PM
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No. It will never go back to original tightness. You’re essentially saying you’re grandma is still as tight as when she was 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:28 PM
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I’m not confusing a girl being wet, vs a baggy pussy. The women are aroused the same amount with me. I can slip in about halfway. The first time I have sex with them. Thats the limit, anymore and it’s painful…. Even with lube. After the first time their vaginas adjust and on later visits I am able to go all the way. I’ve had baggy vaginas before I know the difference. Find a girl that uses a Bad dragon dildo. Tell her to not use it for however long you think it takes for the vagina to go back to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:26 PM
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Well from my first hand experience, I disagree. Practice kegals all day if you want, it only helps a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:13 PM
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So you’re saying that all vaginas retain their original tightness forever? Because they certainly do stay expanded after extended exposure to a certain size over a long period if time. Otherwise it would be difficult sex for me every time. After about a week they adjust to my size. i can…not sleep with them for a month, come back and still fit like a glove(for me anyway)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:08 PM
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How dare you judge people by their exterior shell! It’s what on the inside that counts only!!!!! Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 04:04 PM
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Notice my language used, stretched not destroyed. A rubber band isn’t destroyed if it loses its elasticity, it’s just a different threshold. Anyway. If she had sex once a day for a year with the same monster dick man, her vagina would be used to the bigger size since she repeatedly had sex at that size. If it was once a month or once a year, thats to infrequent to be used to that size. And the sex would be painful for her if he put the full size in. That has been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:41 PM
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If 100k$ isn’t enough for you, then that’s a budgeting issue, You are in top 5% of earners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 02:17 PM
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It’s funny I see responses like this…. Yet I’ve never heard any woman say… I know he’s fat and unhygienic…. But I love his morals and personality, that’s why he’s my boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:58 PM
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This is what I have observed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:55 PM
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Your boyfriend won’t complain if he’s happy. If he’s a size you like sure. Your tightness is not the same as when you were a teenager, Stop pretending you are…. Especially after giving birth. After having a large penis inside multiple times the vagina stretches to fit it. Then sex becomes easier with a bigger penis. The vagina isn’t going to go back to any orginal tightness after that. This was also confirmed by my female friends…. Whom I have a lot to talk to. One even was upset that the sex wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 01:27 PM
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Sooner or later you’ll realize the quality of sex depends on you(the man). Sex is only trash if you’re not the biggest-she has had, because then it will not be tight…… unless you go anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 11:01 AM
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Looks and personality, They tend to go hand in hand. You can tell who has good discipline from looks, and you can tell which has a good personality from their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:28 PM
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Nah, the bad memory is weaponized against you as delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:26 PM
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Clearly they only read tweets about Peterson, and never watched a full video of him. Do not waste your time with them, unless you like circular arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:24 PM
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How does me…. Emulating Tom Brady as a role model….benefit me? Especially If I’m not trying to be a quarterback? The only thing you know about Tom for sure is he likes to practice. I don’t need him to be a role model to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:22 PM
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Sorry to hear that rough dude, I had an ex girlfriend do something similar. Used me for lodging while I paid the bills
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:49 AM
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The only women who call you husband material are women who aren’t interested in dating you. It’s never said by a girlfriend to her boyfriend unless the BF already proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 11:44 AM
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More women hook up with the same man, than many men hooking up with the same woman…. Because women are selective. Even sluts have standards on who they sleep with, otherwise there would be no incels
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:52 AM
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considering over 80% of women are at a minimum overweight…. in the USA anyway. thats only 20% of women who ignore the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:07 PM
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That’s usually the deal when you marry. I would stay, with her at that point we’d both be 70.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:44 PM
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Because they believe they are a 10, and won’t settle for anyone else unless they deem that person a 10…. While they have to hope their crush also sees them as a 10. So they’re on an eternal chase of finding someone who thinks they are as beautiful as they imagine themselves to be. When they don’t find an equal “10” they consider it settling and use their “temp boyfriend/husband” as place holders while they try to punch above their weight. I’ve seen this too many times. To deny this means you are…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:59 AM
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A woman, womensplaining to men, what men want. No I actually want sex, I have plenty of close friends already. You’re “advice” is only applicable to a man with no one in his life. That is rare, if you had close male friends you’d know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:45 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 11:41 AM
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Incorrect, women are not a monolith. As a man who had traveled, you’ll have an easier time talking to women in South America than you would Mississippi. Women friendliness an openess to approach varies wildly from country to country
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 01:13 PM
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Considering that women initiates over 70% of divorces according to the census….. the majority of men don’t. Do your research, a quick census check disproves your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:16 PM
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Considering that there hasn’t been an epidemic of Rapes and murders being linked to RP. I think guys will just adjust the content to their personalities. It’s pretty stupid to think guys are just going to start raping people because the internet told them so. Also Incel is not RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:11 PM
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Maybe if the men are struggling here, they might do better overseas, western women are brutal….and they have a low veil of misandry you can feel with every interaction at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:01 PM
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Do you live in America? If not, then your experience is different due to culture. If you are in America it doesn’t sound like you live in an expensive city. City girls are more hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 11:55 AM
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Incorrect, incels hate red pill and the manosphere. Elliot rogers and Toronto van guy were vocal about how they hated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 01:46 PM
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I remember that, he was linked to incel content, not “the red pill”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 01:41 AM
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False information.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:19 AM
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I agree with you, it’s why vetting is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:47 PM
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High-N women share certain personality traits that make it obvious to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:25 PM
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you are trolling, or you didn’t read the response because you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 12:19 PM
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Sounds like she feared being lonely or paying bills
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 05:01 AM
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Incorrect, you can be masculine with out being butch. Masculine is a personality trait not a look. A woman who has leadership skills is more masculine then women without leadership skills. Essentially it’s a certain type of assertive woman. Nice try though, thats using the weakest argument as a form of gotcha. Very disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 04:47 AM
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It’s because women who sleep around a lot share certain behaviors and attitudes. If she’s into hook-ups chances are she’s into female empowerment. Chances are she has a domineering personality or acts more masculine than most women. A high body count person is addicted to new relationships energy, so they rarely have any longterm relationships. Those are some of the tells. (Don’t bother trying to argue with me about how those women are perceived… look up pair bonding statistics if you want to di…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 02:57 AM
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You say ugly men are bad at sex, then you list an example of you giving an ugly man a chance…. And you found out he’s good at sex. So you disprove your own point. You only think attractive men are good at sex, and you then erroneously make a judgment call to all men being bad at sex due to your bias. Can’t prove how good or bad you are if you never get a shot. (I’m not saying you should be forced to have sex with ugly men, get a better argument)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:54 AM
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Once again, the automod clearly states I can post such reply there. Are you saying that the automod only applies to one group of people?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 05:00 PM
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Are you saying the post was removed for cope? Because The rules states you can put off-topic comments and jokes under auto-mod as that is it’s purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:52 AM
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Wow, this is hardcore cope. Men will always be attractive as long as they have money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:22 AM
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I can link you to 19 -25yr female tiktoks were they admit it. Seeking arrangements has that as an option. Hell watch below deck the girls there actively said they like and wanted older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 12:02 AM
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Well I wouldn’t believe you, because Tom Brady also stared in movies world wide. American football is also viewed worldwide as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 11:58 PM
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We can learn that no matter how successful you are, it’ll never be enough. If you are more famous than your wife who is also a celebrity she will get jealous and use it against you. Dr.Dre, will smith, stephen curry I’m sure i can keep going. These men wives were jealous of their husbands fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 07:59 PM
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People keep confusing the 1% of men who only want beauty, with average joes who just want a functional partner who won’t leave them if bad luck occurs. Women that are self professed gold diggers aren’t women who are cooperative in a relationship. They are simply liabilities, because they add no value to the relationship aside from being pretty. They don’t help with bills, they don’t raise the kids instead they leave that to their parents or a nanny (even though the gold digger doesn’t have a job…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 05:30 PM
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Lol hurt dogs holler
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:33 PM
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They do it to understand the frustration. It's just the other side never wants to admit that there is merit to what they learned. that is for the guys who actually do the experiment in a fair way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:41 PM
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Oh OP hasn't watched any of his stand-up specials and hasn't listened to the Black Phillip Show, where Patrice talks about women attracted to him and his escapades. In fact you know how Patrice knew he had diabetes? his girlfriend was drinking his piss and said it tasted like birthday cake. Guess that disproves you saying no woman is attracted to him. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:39 PM
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Even if you do this and show proof, They will still deny your experience and opinions. Many users have commented on doing/have done this in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:28 PM
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I don't think women can actually answer this question. The only men women are aware of are ones that approach. If I had to ball park it I would say about <50%. The only men women consider actual date material are men who have a job and money... Or are charismatic. It's why if you don't have any of those things women consider you creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 02:10 PM
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Love is subjective and is always subject to change and be withdrawn at any moment for any reason. No one loves anyone forever, The Validation one gets from hook ups is from hooking up with that person sexually, because sex feels good. Why can't you be in an LTR and have hook-ups within the LTR? I'm not sure why it's an either or.... Just date a partner that's fine with it. Plenty of swingers and pineapple people in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:26 PM
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Wait and that’s a problem why? In a society where most power and wealth is in the hands of men the 1% men. A homeless man does not have that power.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 07:03 PM
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The problem with post like these is that it always inevitably devolves into women saying, "It's the mans fault, For some reason I cannot accept that I'm equally responsible for having a baby. I know that I can use female condoms or bring condoms with me, I know I have Plan B, I know I can have an abortion, I know I can put the kid up for adoption.... But that means I'm responsible for speaking up and directly communicating my feelings instead of having plausible deniability."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:02 PM
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The women that say, that just don’t have any empathy for men, and are the same ones that complain that men don’t express their emotions… yet when they do and express how lonely they are, the women then call them whiners for being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:58 PM
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why are divorced men killing themselves? Some analysts argue that the research community has ignored a plausible explanation for the excess suicide risks experienced by divorced men. As Perrault3 and Farrell4 observe, while social, psychological, and even personal problems facing women are readily denounced, societal institutions tend to ignore or minimise male problems as evident in suicide statistics. For instance, in many jurisdictions in the US there seems to be an implicit assumption that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:45 PM
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You do realize I posted a study showing how divorce leads to suicide right? You do realize that you are arguing to be right..... not to find truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:18 PM
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The term betabucks was termed by the very men who were in that situation, where their wife settled. With the divorce rate being over 50% there’s some truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:03 PM
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I too can use Unreputable sites to prove my claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:15 PM
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It’s percentage based on the man’s income. The average is irrelevant as it changes per individual man and his situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:09 PM
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The wife is normally the one who holds the socials. Most men unless they have a close friend, have no one to talk to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:08 PM
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There is no stats that prove that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:07 PM
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And you think very little of men if you deny the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 08:06 PM
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deny if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:24 PM
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Child support is percentage based on the mans income.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:23 PM
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Men are more likely to commit suicide because they dont seek help. Or they can't afford it due to the divorce, When she takes assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:22 PM
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When you are living in a single apartment paying 1/3 your salary to rent 1/3 to child support and 20% of your check is taken by taxes.... it leaves you very little for anything else. It's different when you are a part of the family and contributing then when you are not and it's taken
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:20 PM
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Um, child support is roughly around 25 -30% of the mans check if it’s court ordered. Most divorces I’ve encountered were not on friendly terms. The lawyers usually make bank the longer it goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:32 AM
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Where did you learn this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:26 AM
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Uhhh men are more likely to commit suicide after a divorce, so yes. it can kill you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:21 AM
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Get ready for example deflection, they can’t argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:19 AM
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What? Women get alimony and child support 9/10 times in a divorce, where the man makes more… men are more likely to commit suicide after a divorce…. What do you mean they are better off???? That’s so untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:18 AM
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YEah okay sure, you don't have to make a whole post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 04:25 PM
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Now you’re trolling. Anyway learn to stop underestimating women, and stop being self hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 03:15 AM
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what about age range in the flair? like 20 - 30 or something that way it can still be anonymous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:28 PM
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They (women) will doubt you, they will claim your experience is invalid. They'll make up all sorts of strawmen against you. However what you say is true..... for women 25 and below mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:43 PM
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I think that's a good idea, It should theoretically elevate the discussion of the sub
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:03 PM
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No. You have so far compared age-gap relationships with teachers and student, parent and children and bosses and employees. The two things all of those relationships share is a massive power imbalance Incorrect, YOU HAVE. I was using your logic. I'm glad you understand that your logic is frightening. Also All fans of MCU are also Okay with age gap relationships...... Wanda is married to a 1 year old boy. Why wasn't their an outcry of power imbalance? Oh... because of maturity. IT's really crazy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:31 PM
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Are you genuinely trying to tell me young women should let creepy old dudes fuck them for mentorship and learning ​ No one said anything about fucking.... You did, because that's the only way you can make a point, by making it absurd. Your reasoning makes it so adults and kids shouldn't be in the same room because of predatory behavior. Women like you, who lack Nuance.... Are the problem. you want to win this argument so bad you just straight up lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:18 PM
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And then they falsely accused him of rape, if you remember that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:30 AM
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I have never said I love you to a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 10:30 AM
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So you admit that it’s about a person’s maturity. Because otherwise with your logic, parents shouldn’t raise kids because of incest possibilities…. Or teachers should not teach students. Kids should raise kids and teach kids. That way people stay within their age group! See how stupid that sounds…. Maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:35 AM
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Labor laws doesn’t protect them from mentorship. See that, it’s called critical thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:16 PM
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Sounds like a Rich guy problem. Average men wouldn't say size 4 is too fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:49 PM
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That makes it sound like, they expected the men to not be bitter or aggravated after getting a rejection. I don't know too many people who are happy to be turned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:46 PM
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If that’s the case that makes it even worse, a far right canadian is different from a far right U.S citizen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:25 PM
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The only thing he could have done was start recording his interactions with her once he realized she was stealing from him. As a man he's at the mercy of his wife's allegation's, anyone who has ever dealt with a false accusation from a woman knows how this goes. She's pretty much blackmailing him into staying married, This is the kinda stuff guys see and makes them rethink marriage. Inb4 JuSt MaKe bEtTer cHoIcEs, He was inexpereinced before, and now he knows that the kinda women that are attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:30 PM
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Looks like you finally understand that 18 is a legal definition, but you’ve missed the point that it isn’t a blanket application of maturity. We had to set a legal age of adulthood because we can’t assess every person for their cognitive maturity. So close yet so far.... You almost got it.... Maturity is how the individual is... and at that legal age and from school they are equipped to make decisions like.... where to move.... if you really cared about predatory then you would be lobbying for y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:20 PM
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Heterosexual participants (N = 237) reported their trait mate value. Participants then recorded a video of themselves and received video responses from five opposite-sex peers, each consisting of either positive or negative romantic feedback—forming the manipulation (popularity: from low to high). Afterwards, we measured participants’ attitudes to traditional gender roles, casual sex, minimum wage and healthcare, and implicit sexual and political attitudes. If I'm understanding this correctly, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:39 PM
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I am not discrediting women at all. Women don’t automatically become mature on the dawn of their 18th birthday. Sounds like discrediting to me You gain maturity as you get older, by the time your 18 you have accumulated enough knowledge to know what's right and wrong and to make decisions for yourself. It's the legal definition in USA, Not worldwide where you are considered an adult at 16 on average. Also the study was not the point, and you are only calling it psychobabble because it proves you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 01:12 PM
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Lol No one is justifying predatory behavior, We are talking about consenting adults who are mature. We are not talking about people who have mental handicaps or immature people hooking up with mature people. Someone who is predatory is someone who lacks empathy, That person is going to do what they want no matter what. That person no matter how much you attempt to shame age gap dating or what have you... will always ignore you, and continue to do what they want. Also a Strawman argument is when …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:51 PM
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"I know you are but what am I" I thought you were an adult, where's your mature argument? Why are you reducing your mature adult like debate skills to that of a school child? I thought you were more articulate than this? Oh guess you're still learning huh? I hope your with a man your mental age, because 40 aint it. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:57 PM
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Literally none of that matters in the end. The sun is going to die. Right, so that justifies everything. And if multiple women were to buy one house together, that's still the third scenario I outlined. I never said it was the easiest process to refinance and change a deed, but the original comment brought this up as a negative of old unpartnered women specifically buying it a house together instead of just being a regular process and risk of having multiple people on a deed. I stated an observa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:55 PM
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Lmao, you don't have a rebuttal so you name call. Very mature. I guess you're still considered a child then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:53 PM
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It's an irrational desire to become immortal Incorrect. This is conflating two separate issues. Anyone who's ever had a roommate has to potentially deal with the fallout of a roommate breaking a lease - that isn't exclusive to old unrelated women living together. I was talking about someone buying a house not being a roommate Seems like the smartest thing to do. Co ownership always seemed like the riskiest option. Though of course perhaps the most rewarding (financially) IF you can make it work …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:30 PM
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It's an irrational desire to become immortal. Even though any and all of their descendants will eventually die as average nobodies as well. It's not about accomplishing anything, it's about an extreme aversion to actually dying. People who procreate can at least delude themselves into thinking they'll "live on" through the ever-diluting DNA of their offspring. It's a stupid thought, but a common one. Re: Karmanger Incorrect, It's about passing values, valuables and knowledge that will help your …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:27 PM
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Electricity is the legacy that Thomas edison will be known for. It has helped the world over and changed how the world operates. Legacies are what family traditions and values are. That is passed down from family member to member. To people who come from broken homes, they have been robbed of their legacy and not know it. Legacy can be many things, including knowledge….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 09:15 PM
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Majority of people who have kids are statistics in the foot notes of history anyway. Majority of people aren't remarkable or don't do anything remarkable, and don't leave behind a notable legacy. Like my grandma, and my grandma's grandma they were all just primitive and poor farmers... Me? I'm not remarkable either. In a couple hundred years I'll probably be forgotten too. The difference is that they had kids and their genetic lines along with their teachings and values and morales gets passed d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 07:10 PM
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Looks are important, but when guys see quality or a women that has wife qualities about her they move quickly to get her. From your statement I can guess that you don't do anything that would be considered wifey material. If all you do is show up to dates and expect to be entertained and pampered and you only offer sex (don't say you offer conversation, everyone offers that) then men are only going to see you as a FWB. I can promise you that if you did the following almost any man would consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:51 PM
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The dating market evolves and so do the people. The people who can get along with others and cooperate will continue to have kids and live with their families Those who can't or won't will not leave a legacy behind and will only be a statistic in the foot note of history; Or they'll just be used as an example of what happens if you are a delusional person. As far as how older delusional(if you feel like I'm talking about you... than I am) single women are going to go.... They'll just move in wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:36 PM
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You can say whatever you want. People with common sense see through bullshit. A predator is someone who preys on the defenseless and weak. Adult age women are anything but that. If you think people who are young, are dumb then that says more about you.. Because then MENSA would not be a thing. There are young men and women in Mensa, there are young men and women millionaires. Clearly you're not a millionaire, so are you not as responsible..... or as smart as them? They reached their wealthy stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:30 PM
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Shared history is built together. I’ve seen the data and their data collection methods were questionable. Nostalgia only lets you say, “ remember the time when” if you want to talk about events long gone, that anyone can look up. I’m getting the sense you believe you are superior to people only based on your age. And we are similar ages btw….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:39 PM
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Most likely they had that agreement, and she probably wants to be married. All of leos exes get married shortly after
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 12:35 PM
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Yea, they got push back by other comments in their post. Most people ignored it, unless you were already republican, and even then people didn’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:51 AM
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Trp is not redpill if you just google some issue and put redpill I’m sure you’ll find something. But thats off the subject, all the TRP were endorsed contributors and were on the subreddit. Use the wayback machine and look for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:53 AM
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You’re looking at single commenters and labeling the whole group. It was a sub Reddit that allowed anyone to post as long as it was relevant to self improvement, or was a rant. Most of those were rants by angry phasers. The endorsed contributor had their politics but it was never a focus with them. It’s as much about politics here as it was there. No one here is actively recruiting for either side. Someone brings up pro republican stuff, someone brings up some democrat rebuttal. It was the same …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:52 AM
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Everything you listed as shared experiences was just nostalgia. You only listed nostalgia… as the common point in age. That’s a shallow relationship, that will only live in the past. relationships are about building experiences together. Creating new experiences and teaching each other. That can be done by two consenting adults of any age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:44 AM
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Youtube redpill is not TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:40 AM
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TRP didn't go in to politics, on the main sub when it was on reddit. There were both blue and red men on the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:55 PM
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I was talking about how when you ask friends out in a friend group…. Women give erroneous advice about needing to be friends. As the discussion shows, that’s not true…. The guy who asks her out quickly is the guy that she wants. If the guy waits longer than a week he’s in the friend zone. Unless you’re a school student, most people only hang out once or twice a week. Also I don’t recall saying I don’t have a girlfriend….
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 07:11 PM
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So what do you think older men have in common in with women their own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:57 PM
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Not scoffing, it’s more like…. We know not to ask them out the blue. You’re assuming I’m doing things the worse way. Im friends with women but only those who I’ve had an FWB wants to remain friends. The women I ask at work hangout with me at work and even eat lunch with me. Yet they still assume I’m asking them out, even when i let them know I have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 06:02 AM
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‘As soon as you meet them" not the same as "after a week." It is though, because you normally hang out with new friends once or twice a week. It is highly unlikely that you are hanging out with this new friend 3 or 4 days out of the week of just meeting them. the next time you see them will most likely be the second time you encounter them, which is after a week normally. And you don’t have to ask her out, just ask her to hang casually like a friend, or just escalate the flirting when you’re aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:33 PM
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So your advice is ask her out as soon as you meet them. A guy who follows that advice and is rejected even "Once"....is kicked out the friend group normally, because the female feels awkward around him and the friend group almost always sides with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:06 PM
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I think the (twitter)poster only hangs around married women, so they have a bias. Warren Buffet can say most men they hang out with have a net worth over 100million.Of course they do.... why would buffet hang out with those less well off than him. As for a women who never married, She can look like anything it's her personality that keeps her single.... and it's usually because she has more masculine traits than feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:52 PM
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because it flies in the face of women who say they need to be friends with a guy first to go out with them. this is the stuff they see that turns them into TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 04:13 PM
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They are complaining about traditional wife duties. You'll notice that the women who complain about this, want the men to clean up after them instead. It's never 50/50 with these types of women, they want a daddy who'll be an ATM and do all the housework while they get to shop and complain. I promise you the women who complain about it, Don't even cook. They're the same women who call any traditional women a pick-me. I ignore the women who complain about a "bangmaid" because it's them projecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:35 PM
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I'm purple. The color of the commenters flair is their pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:31 PM
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Like minds attract like minds. people will surround themselves with others like them. SO if you are an extravert chances are you'll make friends with other extraverts. That's why when some people make the argument, "None of my friends do that" or "I haven't seen that in my friend group" and you won't. You don't go to places where those people hang out or you guys naturally repel each other so you don't meet. It's like saying "I've never seen a Hooker before therefore they don't exist".... Just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 01:49 PM
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That would require effort, and empathy. They will set you up with their biggest friend, or the one friend who is crazy but to them is "misunderstood".... If they even do it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:42 PM
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The issue I have discovered is that, the women are using a different definition of mysogny and hate. Ask them to define it. I bet they deflect trying to answer. They use mysogny in a way that makes it seem you hate women if you don’t use nice words.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 11:02 AM
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Thank you. I wish you luck. Although I am confused on what you could possibly want to "know" about a person that you can't tell within 3 - 6 dates? If you know that your needs are similar (because you/they asked during the date) and you have similar lifestyles and interests (because you/they asked during the date) what else is there? If it's about whether they are an abuser or not, you can always do a criminal check if you are that afraid. I knew another person who could only be "turned on" by p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:11 PM
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I don't think in terms of "the one" It's more like she was extremely reasonable, and was willing to compromise, and So was I. Due to that we are able to communicate about our needs pretty easily. I've been on lots of dates and because I pay attention to detail, I've been accurate in my assessments. I even hooked up a good friend of mine with an ex due to their personalities being compatible, they're on their second kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:58 PM
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Depends on your field for psychology I studied/practiced abnormal psychology so, I'm aware of most warning signs of mental illness for people.... that and personal experience. From the First date I can gauge personality, mannerisms, what they consider "normal" and what they want from a relationship and if we want the same things. I'm not married, not sure if I want to be, My girlfriend is on the same page as me. If we decide to have kids we might consider it for legal purposes. Currently we've b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:38 PM
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Depends on the person, I'm extremely good at vetting people due to my training as a psychologist and my sales experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:43 PM
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I kinda figured that about her, But I wanted a definition to be sure that's how she viewed it. But I now Know that any woman that can't define misogyny when asked.... Doesn't know what it means. The fact that she got pissed when I asked and deflected proves it. So now I know how to handle women like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 06:37 PM
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The amount of misogyny and just overt hatred of women I see online has increased exponentially. From Reddit to Tiktok, there is no shortage of online anon males ready to tell you that women don’t deserve rights, women are inferior & lesser, and of course women belong in the kitchen. And thanks to the internet, girls and women get to see what men truly think firsthand. No wonder so many are opting out of dating altogether and seeking online refuge in female oriented communities. This doesn't expl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 05:27 PM
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Just copy and paste, I can't slog through your profile history for a comment you made have made 3 days ago. I just want a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:55 PM
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A quick google search has shown me that no, the Top models are in their 20s. I don't even follow models anyway so they're never the women I have in mind when talking about women. Also Models are the exception, not every girl is a model. Why are we even talking about models? the comment above me didn't mention them. The women these guys are talking to are their co-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:25 PM
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What I guess I was trying to say, Didn't the CDC collect their information at colleges.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:56 PM
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When I was dating Online, If a girl said she loved to travel in her Bio I immediately nexted. Not saying all women are like this, but every single time I have gone on a date with a women that declares she loves to travel, it was always always gold digger vibes. They always seemed to be the most entitled of any women I've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:53 PM
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The men who your friends are hooking up with, sound rich and of high social status. That sounds like he's just banking off his Charisma and money. Also dating in the US and dating in Europe are different, One thing you might not know is, Drinking in public isn't really allowed here and as such socialization between the sexes is very low. I know in Certain parts of Europe they have mounds of teenagers and the like drinking together by rivers as if it's a gathering. In America.... not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:19 PM
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The girls are the one's who accept or reject the guys advances, (aggressive) Guys ask anyone who they think will go out with them. Your "kind" friends are probably pretty picky themselves, you just don't see it that way since you share the same struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 02:02 PM
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Sounds like the women are 30+ though which OP said is when those types of men attract women, due to their stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:58 PM
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he amount of misogyny and just overt hatred of women I see online has increased exponentially. Out of curiosity, How do you define misogny? Don't just say the hatred of women, because I haven't seen a single Redpill Content Creator say that they hate women. So it must be more than that from your perspective, it feels like whenever a woman calls a guy a misogynists, it's because he's being critical about an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:08 PM
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That's the problem I always have with the People who argue against TRP. What you stated was the foundation. These guys didn't pull this information from thin air, it wouldn't have lasted this long if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:04 PM
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Weren't those studies done at colleges and only collect the evidence college students report? Can't you make an argument that people who go to college are already different from the average person and only represents a minority segment of the country?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:00 PM
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Still doesn’t change anything. Odds are odds. Rare is rare. Because you have a 84% chance of it not happening. 84% that’s a pretty big number. 84% chance you won’t get raped…… in your lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:13 AM
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That’s called Russian roulette.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 06:18 PM
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Lmao what’s not? What are you talking about? 16% is rare. The act of Rape is terrifying, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:51 PM
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You…. Provided that stat. 16% by definition. Is rare. You lose again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:15 PM
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Case and point lurkers. This is the type of commenter, who is disingenuous and likes to throw out slander. They already displayed, they do not read comments. They go half cocked, and use made up arguments in their head that they attribute to anyone they think is male. They do not care about the discussion, they do not care about truth. These types are just pushing an agenda. Notice how they couldn’t articulate their point. All they could do is name call, and show that they have low reading compr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:06 PM
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Lmao so you don’t even read the responses. Like why are you even replying? You must be bored. Because now you’re making up statements I never said, and you’re disagreeing with your own stats. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:48 PM
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Lol so, because you have no points and don’t have a counter argument…. You just make up things to make the other person seem like a villain and you an angel. Lmao. you know you’re wrong. Also you are projecting…. 100% you are projecting. I bet I’ve done more to help women out than you do lmao… Anyway stay salty my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:40 PM
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16% by definition is rare. 50% is common. Both rape statistics are considered rare because it’s less than 50%. You are trivializing the male experience with toxic females, and trying to conflate the female experience with toxic males. Both examples aren’t common, they are rare. The average person isn’t raping or being manipulative towards their partner. At this point I’m expecting you to argue just to argue. 16% is an objective fact. Men and women both get abused by both genders, that is an obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:06 PM
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It’s because men are also victims of rape and abuse, it’s because you are trivializing the abuse and other forms harassment and safety issues that men also have to face. It’s sad that it’s happening but by virtue of it being 16% means that it’s rare and not a wide spread problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:14 PM
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1 in 6 is not 50%….it’s 16% so that means by and large that it is not a common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:09 PM
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Men are coddled by society? That’s interesting since when CIS people date on the internet men are the ones most likely fearing false rape allegations, simply for being a bad date. Or manipulative women who will abuse them, while women simply fear that the man might make her pay for a date, or might be shorter than she expects. Mens choices also determine whether or not they are safe or survive. Of course this is a waste of time as you are clearly a raging misandrist. Seems to work both ways, acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:53 PM
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No clue what you mean, they were my exes over 20 years ago at this point. I’m in a relationship currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:39 AM
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Men in general are forced to be more open minded than women. If something doesn't work or if a man fails, keeping the same attitude is only going to lead towards failure and death. With women, in general unless another women is there to call her out (because she won't listen to any man that does) she's going to keep her same views no matter how they play out, due to society coddling women. What's that you say? women aren't coddled in society? If women weren't, Men wouldn't be instantly called a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:02 PM
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Ahh, I got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:14 PM
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What brings you here? Boredom at this point. Are you seeking knowledge or are you looking to share some? yes Are you mad? Only when my points are wildly misinterpreted by someone, when I'm automatically assumed to be an Incel for simply disagreeing. Or my favorite when a commenter is hostile towards you, when you are being polite. ​ Are you sad? Only when I realize the person I'm talking to lacks empathy. ​ Tell me about yourselves and illuminate me to your raison d'etre Well, I disagree on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:04 PM
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Uhhh Hard Doubt On the OG, I 100% didn't have that in the hood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:25 PM
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It may not seem like it, But there are a plethora of lurkers who read all the comments on a post and use their best judgement to take the advice that applies to them. Some of the Commenters and posters here, will refuse advice due to ego, Sunk Cost fallacy or inexperience. They may argue and deny that you have any points, but the very fact they are arguing with you passionately to disprove your claims means that it affected them to some degree. Whether they admit it or not they will think about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:23 PM
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Being Flirty, and knowing how to seduce being a Thot aren't mutually exclusive. I'm not sure how other guys do it, but I vetted for open mindedness when I was dating. As a result my GF and I are doing what we want to do sexually.... no settling here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:11 PM
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Lmao Being a mind-reader is easy, just learn astrology. Ask your date her sign.... and bring a mop because you're about to make her wetter than Niagara falls.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:59 PM
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Maybe that's a regional thing. Me and my guy friends don't talk about women that way, We'd rather be alone and go to a retirement home. Most of the women now-a-days don't even cook or clean.... I can't even imagine that as a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:44 PM
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Men on average just don't do settle for safe... Like... what does that even mean to be safe? A shy girl can be just as narcissistic as any other girl. My ex was a shy virgin girl..... She was the one who tried to put me on child support knowing I wasn't the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:32 PM
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The buildings? men The culture? Women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 12:53 PM
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Doesn't matter. The fat fuck is just complaining, if he was hungry he would have gone to get food no matter where he was. And you also made the point, if it was a starving african..... then you already know he was hungrier.... how else did you know he was hungry? You didn't say a starving fat fuck. When you hold your breath.... you can't breathe, Hold it long enough and your body forces you to take a breathe. Even if you wanted to not take a breath.... you are FORCED to TAKE ACTION. No matter wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 02:12 PM
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Titular question, how common is it? You can suppose statistics or just give a rough summary of how you think this phenomenon plays out in the real world. Considering that society expects the person who asks for the date to pay; Considering that it is also rare for a women to ask a man on a date(as in contact the man, ask him out and set a time and place for their meeting) and Men will 95% of the time be paying for the date...A second date only occurs if the women felt a "connection" so she alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 01:59 PM
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What I believe he is alluding to is that, People who keep seeking and trying over and over, are hornier because they are being active about it. It's like asking who do you believe is hungrier. The man who says he's hungry. or the man eating food off the floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 12:41 PM
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If you’re a guy, stop paying for dates. That way you can’t be foodie called, because you never pay. On the flip side you will be ghosted by interested women who are more traditional about men paying, but who would have fucked you. OR you can just go on dates that don't cost money, or coffee dates instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 06:50 PM
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It's the fact that he had to jump through hoops, Women who make men wait rarely if ever pay for any of the dates or rarely if ever (religious women are the exception) do anything reciprocal during the dating. Men don't like coming out of any interaction empty handed if they can help it. If The sex was good or mind blowing he probably would consider making her a Forever girlfriend if the only thing she offers in a relationship is sex. But 9/10 times the sex is never good.... and is only worth it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 05:52 PM
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Doesn't matter if he hasn't had sex in a long time, or if he's a virgin. He will not care, who thinks if he's a loser. As the saying goes "Had sex, don't care"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:17 PM
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I can understand why you would say that, however from talking with females around me who date, they all have encountered men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:20 PM
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Man must be extremely charming to a sociopathic degree if he can pull that off and fool the woman. Assuming that's true, Well research has shown that women like men with dark triad traits.... so the man that is doing possibly could be.... That or he is just desperate to have sex. ​ The pay off seems pathetically lame. Why bother with the platonic stuff and not just dump her to find someone not making him wait. Wasting hours spanning weeks/months for ~30mins of "pleasure" (sex with someone you re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:11 PM
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The problem is too, is that they want the man to pay for all the dates as they "get to know them". It wouldn't even be as bad if the women actually paid for the dates during the waiting period.... But that's not the case they still want the guy to uphold his traditional dating role while she gets to shirk hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 02:00 PM
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Both, because there are more types of men than just TRP and NON-TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:55 PM
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That's a big assumption that she's only dating one guy at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:54 PM
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You've never encountered a spiteful man, or a man with nothing else going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:52 PM
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Nuance is what's needed. Your hypothetical is of a women who is constantly going on dates and sleeping with men she dates. IF she sleeps with everyman who asks her for a date, then she is not vetting for a relationship. She's vetting for sex at that point, A women who wants a relationship will ask questions of a man to see what he wants. "But he can just lie" So do women who go on foodie dates... Women will just have to be like men who get tricked.... learn from it and adapt it to your vetting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:34 PM
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Hell he could just stick around out of spite BECAUSE of that manipulative tactic This is more prevalent than anyone admits. If making a man wait for sex was a successful tactic it would result in more relationships..... but it doesn't. Isn't strange that it's always the perpetual single women who have this requirement well after 30+. Actual Religious women are obviously excluded from this, they tend to have actual marriages from abstaining, due to marrying within the church.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 01:28 PM
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The natural progression of a relationship as we know it is the following: The man approaches> The woman accepts his advances if she finds him sufficiently attractive > he displays his personality (this is where the courting and dates happen) > they eventually have sex > they get into a relationship. In this linear progression, how does the man have more of a say of who he is in a relationship with than the woman? She accepts his advances, and if she doesn’t find him appealing she would have reje…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:53 PM
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Confident and not being a dickhead is subjective. where's the line between confident and not being a dick head?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 12:47 PM
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Wearing a rolex is peacocking because it signifies status. People notice a rolex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 12:49 AM
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Shows your ignorance. Rolex are expensive… they are a status symbol on its own. They are peacocking only men with money and meana have them. Thats why it’s peacocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:11 AM
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So you agree then, according to the article.... that TRP and incels are oppossed to each other.... Because Redpilled... isn't TRP. ALso if I wanted to I can say all Feminist's lead to extremism, and are Misandric since they praise women who encourage men to kill themselves. I mean after all Feminist want men to go extinct.... all the same right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:20 PM
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Well, I have seen it, with men online and IRL. Other way to prove it is fairly simple. Look at TRP endorsed contributors, most have left some hardcore guys remain, even then..... look at their post history and you'll see the transformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:11 PM
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I really doubt manosphere overall is that helpful for men. Most guys here who seem to be deep into TRP or MGTOW also are the ones who sound pretty miserable, depressed and/or angry and maladjusted. People who are happy rarely complain. It's like working in customer service, you can provide amazing great service and you would rarely get a customer who leaves a compliment to your boss. The one day that you are mean, you get all the complaints and it'll paint a picture as if you are misreable perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:32 PM
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Incels aren't Redpill. Incels are anti-redpill Just an FYI. If they were Redpill.... They would be too busy working out and improving their social skills to do a mass shooting. Elliot Rodgers hated redpill- he admited as much. So did the Canadain Incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:27 PM
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Pick better women. How are we supposed to know? You pick the nice girl and she is nice… until she isn’t. You make a good friend and she is a nice girl until you get too drunk one day… You find a great girlfriend until she learns her friend Falsely alleges rape and stays silent. Men get told to pick better women but in the same breath are told off for having walls and not going out with the “nice girls”. There is no right time for a man to leave, its either too soon and you should just give her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:16 PM
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I could but, that has no relevance to this disucussion. Unless in your arrogance you want me to copy Mystery..... Which the Skill he displayed was called Peacocking, which you don't have to wear a wacky suit to do... you can just wear a rolex.... gets the same point across. See that.... it's called applying a skill universally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 01:11 PM
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Incorrect, The skill set is the same. The methods are just adaptions of the skills learned in PUA. You can believe what you want. The only people who think PUA is garbage are those who are too lazy to put theory into action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 05:32 PM
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If you had sex then it's not platnoic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:43 PM
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Men who lost relationships due to showing emotions or revealing their traumatic past, are saying what happened when they did. Women don’t want to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 04:28 PM
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You protect the things you care about, or people take them from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:53 PM
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That was context, to show I’ve researched PuAS. Game is the same no matter the times, it applies universally. What Puas teach today is still the same skills as yesterday. Stop being arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 11:30 PM
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Sounds like you just want to discredit the effort men put into getting ready for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:18 PM
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An attractive man with social skills will get girls. Game will help that attractive man get the girl he wants specifically rather than being passive. I read Neil Strauss's Book as well as Mystery's TV show, and Researched David Deangelo as well as all the other PUA stuff, I'm knowledgeable on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:54 PM
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Most of the men going on dates don’t have expensive cars. Do women usually ask men what cars they have before dating them ? Having a car in itself cost money, how did the guy pay for it? Did the woman help him pay for his car that he brings her on to the dates with? no they don't. And Some women do ask what car you drive before going on a date. IF they don't have a car or the car isn't "good enough" they'll cancel/flake. Also none of the grooming men do involves removing all trace of body hair f…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 06:53 PM
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Women are also risking their physical health and safety when dating. Women also invest more time in extensive grooming practices So do men. Men have to spend money on nice clothes, nice cars and grooming supplies as well, Remember women aren't going on dates with slobs or broke men. A woman who wants a man to pay for her to show up "fashionably late" is nothing but a Tax. Men have the same constraints as women on dates... but it's worse since the women never pays anything or does anything tangib…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 04:47 PM
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Sure, guess we both talk to and know SBs, strippers, escorts and SWers. None of them ever were exclusively paid 5k /night/week/month just to talk only. They have had talking dates…. But that was part of the package and they all had intercourse at some point with the SD. I’ve known SBs who finessed their SDs into trying to keep it platonic…. But they never lasted long with that SD
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:12 PM
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Delusional news? Because if anyone tells you they are…. They are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:40 PM
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Men aren’t paying Women’s bills and tuition, and spending over 5k - 100k a month just for good conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:33 PM
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Depends on the sugar set-up. Most just do an allowance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:56 PM
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Yeah and a woman pays what??? Nothing. It’s a one sided transaction for both parties to get to know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 06:56 PM
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You could argue that normal dating is already transactional since the man 95% of the time is paying for the dates. Also there aren't enough sugar daddies to make sugaring normalized. Most SB's are targeting men that make over 100k a year.... Only 24% of people in the USA are making that amount, not factoring if they are already married or Gay. On top of that these are the men that "feel" they need to pay a woman to spend time with him, so take that for what it's worth.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 05:54 PM
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Depends on the guy. I would not count it, as long as she got therapy for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 02:57 PM
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Attractive men get girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:19 PM
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Eh, I argue that it's because those girls are bad at flirting and when they're turned on, the guys they like can't figure if they like them or not, because the girls send confusing signals, or no signal at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:16 PM
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It's easier for guys who women are attracted to, to get relationships. In other words women spend time selecting a guy they think is attractive.... so the hard part is done. He approaches she says yes, now he is vetting her to see if she is someone who he wants to stay with long term, or treat as a Short term thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 06:21 PM
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Easy, at 30 they realize people are using their answers against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:04 PM
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she will turn her "sexuality" back on and she will want to have sex every day Sure... Just like women who know how to be submissive.... for the right guy... Such a shame that they will not last 5 years married, He's going to expect sex and she's going to be put off by how inexperienced he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:02 PM
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Doesn't provide any other value besides sex. Like we can have great companionship but if none of what you offer helps makes my life easier, and if it appears that I'm doing all of the "heavy lifting" I'm not going to put any more effort in them because they demonstrated they are a net negative return.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 12:50 PM
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Yeah, guys would sleep with them…. And not brag about it. Clearly these women haven’t had any LTRs, just based on the body count. Or if they are, they’re just cheating….a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:26 PM
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They are the most visible, getting attention... you know they do because they brag about it on any social media app they have. Inhibited girls wouldn't brag about anything they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 01:21 PM
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Those women are coping, most likely they got pumped and dumped. The only men that would feel used for sex is a guy that’s looking for a relationship. It’s already known women won’t sleep with guys like that. So they’re being left by “chad” and rephrasing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:34 AM
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Except women in general keep complaining about male friends hitting on them, and being friends only to ask them out. Because that’s what you are telling him to do. He will be friends with her, ask her out she will think he was only friends to get laid… just like how a majority of women complain when their male friends hit on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:31 AM
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That's how you get permafriend zoned. IF he doesn't flirt the girls will never know he's interested and they will Never make the first move on him
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:16 PM
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HE's charismatic, or provides them with Drugs and etc. Just being handsome only buys you time to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:08 PM
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sure... but you don't go clubbing every night. The point of clubbing (at least for men) is to mix and meet new people, you find attractive. Men who go clubbing are going to hit on women who are there. If you are going clubbing EVERY NIGHT, you will eventually have sex with a guy that month if not that week... If you have a boyfriend(who you met at the club) and you still go to the club EVERYDAY...... Something tells me it's not for friends drinks and dancing. You can try and pretend it's not bad…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 09:06 PM
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Okay.... What do you think the point of clubbing is....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 08:52 PM
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The overweight couples got overweight together, meaning they got together when they were at their best and they let themselves go. Saying you see couples at grocery stores is disingenuous. If they live together/have kids of course they need to shop at the grocery store. It’s confirmation bias, I doubt that single men even go to the grocery store…. on average (most men don’t to cook) they do take out, since they only need to feed themselves. People who do not have their lives in order and are in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:25 PM
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Arranged marriages…. Solves the issue, and keeps women as first class citizens. You’re welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:22 PM
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3 dates, any longer and I’d assume she’s using me. What more do you need to know after 3 dates? By that time you’ve got a grasp on who that person is and how they operate. Unless you’re sexting and talking about your turn ons before you sleep together (which people who wait more than a month rarely do), not sure what else you need to know to be comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:19 PM
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If all men were toxic, then all men would be assholes…. and assholes get laid. Yet the complaint here is that the men aren’t….. so all men can’t be toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:10 PM
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So they can be longterm FWB
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:02 PM
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She had a lot of comments like that primarily... but I thought her reframing of what was nice was pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:59 PM
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I'm not trying to shit on the guy at all, What I'm going to say is going to sound harsh but there is no nice way to say it. The Fact that he went through a friend, to tell a friend...... displays he doesn't know how to flirt. Friendly doesn't mean he's socially confident in his social skills, Flirting while you are already in a relationship isn't really flirting. The fact that he kept your conversations before "platonic" is proof enough. It could be possible that he flirted with you before and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:18 PM
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Possible. What makes it hard to believe is that if you can flirt.... you are going to at least do an attempt. Chances are then he flirted with the women when no one was watching him and he got rejected or she didn't realize he was flirting and he acted shy around her after his perceived rejection. ​ Unless the women came up to you and told you they wished he flirted with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:58 PM
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I've only received one piece of great advice from a woman before, and it was on being a "Nice Guy". I'm looking through the posts and I keep seeing "I'm a nice guy." Nice isn't an exciting word. It doesn't make me meow or purr. It's mundane, boring, unexciting and bland. Nice guys don't have enough guts for me and I think of a doormat and someone I can manipulate and "get away" with stuff. I think of nice guys as soft, wishy-washy with decisions, someone I always need to assure everything is fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:33 PM
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All that means is he lacked the social skills of flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:07 AM
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Super friendly means he lacked the social skills on flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:06 AM
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They don't go after the women they want, because they don't know what to say to them that'll be attractive, or they're too nervous and think they'll slip up while talking.... Social skill issues. Having the required social skills would override your fear, because you wouldn't be afraid.... you'd know what to say. Because you'd be able to communicate the skills and value you provide, in a way people can relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:30 PM
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How and what people say online isn't how the are offline. You lose nuance and subtly through text. The men here who are brutally honest about what they want, aren't going up to women and saying this shit. Also Women can't tell how and what other men think, if women could then they wouldn't always pick the bad boy who breaks their heart because they would be perfect selectors for the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:43 PM
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Talk to the guy who made the original example. I was just explaining it to the other guy because he misinterpreted it. Her choosing the man who on paper is better in every category makes logical sense. There isn't a person alive who when faced with the clearly logical choice of the two.... won't take it. Not even sure what your cope comment even means? Like nothing about what was said is coping.... Also I don't care about Alpha or Beta Dichotomy, It's useful to use to talk about certain types of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:35 PM
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Handsome and successful men that struggle, are only struggling because they lack the social skills required to get a romantic/sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:39 PM
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Since I can/do talk about this stuff with my friends and Girlfriend, nothing would change for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:23 PM
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All of these combined clearly bad. It’s the mix of red flags you have to use in context. 1 - 5 might make sense if they are a model. Context of the red flags is key, otherwise this can apply to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:21 PM
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Sure they're not, A woman with a fat ass and a skinny waist, can still be technically Obese, it's about how the weight is distributed. Note how I didn't say land whale. Second of all I actually meant they had them as FWBs. But I'm sure you talk to all the athletes and jocks of the world and never found one to be dating an obese women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:33 PM
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Those type of guys that you are referring to.... won't brag about dating plus sized women... and most likely will keep it a secret from everyone if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:26 PM
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engaging thing I thought about the other day. I noticed how as a man, it's pretty easy to notice when a woman is only using you for your attention, money, or resources (well, at least when you become aware of how common it is and you become diligent about this sort of thing) You know the drill, never contacts you unless she needs something, never flirts or is physically affectionate, wants dates but will never hang out at your place, etc. It becomes pretty obvious why she keeps you around But I …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:04 PM
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I agree. Why would you not want to protect your girlfriend/wife/sister/mom if you are able to. I’m not going to let some person punch her in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:58 PM
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Except women don’t approach. They only choose who approaches them. Men can’t force a woman to choose him (legally anyway). And women can’t force a man to ask for her hand.(legally)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:52 PM
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Lines up with my experience. Unless it’s his wife…. Which I guess she still fucked him 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:21 PM
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Nah, flexing as a man can get you targeted and/or robbed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:21 PM
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I disagree on women being the gatekeepers of commitment, because it’s men that have to per-pose. It’s men that have to decide if their partners are worth spending their life with. It’s women who choose what men they give access to their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:03 PM
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I’m most likely an outlier on this one, I haven’t needed to do drugs or alcohol to get laid. If anything it always worked against me. I lose interest or I can’t notice anyone flirting with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:51 PM
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I get your point. The women here will not, because sex is easily available to them…. They don’t see any issues with it. The problem is when you look up statistics on the average amount of partners for the average guy…. It’s normally 6 people….. through out his whole life. From 13 - 90 only 6 different people…. Compare that to a CC rider and they probably picked up 6 bodies that year.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:40 PM
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It’s not like I would advertise my expectations. Usually if she’s the type to make me wait, it’s normally due to her wanting me to just keep paying for the dinner dates. Every other girl that I’ve slept with soonish I knew was into me and we had happier relationships. Normally about a yearish, my longest relationship being 15 years
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:46 AM
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No clue what you are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:13 AM
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For me no, It shows me that she's really interested in me. I only commit to girls that sleep with me with-in the first 3 dates. Anything after that or if she's like after a month or 3 I'm more likely to ghost after sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:57 PM
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The ones who have their standards evolve are the ones who are able to get consistent dates/fwb with women. The ones who don't, can't evolve because they can't gain the experience to even know what standard is BS vs Quality. But don't take my word for it, I'm just a clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:54 PM
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Can you please link me where it defines beauty as being anatomically proportional, and can you show me the "work" where it displays that she is mathematical propionate to her forehead, because as it stands now..... doesn't look like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:20 PM
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The women wouldn't even be aware he's Top 5%. They think guys over 6 feet are average, when the reality is different. You definitely have to give stipulations on what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:19 PM
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in your opinion, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:02 PM
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This happens to me when I don't follow up, She's angry at you because you didn't do anything and she assumes you hate her. If she at least responds when you talk to her she still has some attraction, but if she just straight up acts indifferent then yea..... she's done with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:55 PM
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Really? I'm an ass guy and all the Top models have an ass as flat as cardboard, and they seem to be like B-cups. That's a 7 for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:00 PM
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Beauty isn’t a matter of opinion it’s a matter of fact. Her lip proportions are 1:3 between her chin and philtrum which is ideal, and her eye colour is A10. She has a big forehead which makes her look manish. at best a 7.5
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:57 PM
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I too would only post the comments that were mean to me to mods. Do you think they're going to report "You're beautiful" Or "Hi, I'd like to get to know you" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:50 PM
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They hated Jesus because he told the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:48 PM
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Doesn't matter if YOU didn't like the analogy, it's the best comparison to illustrate what he said. If you know what an analogy is then this statement makes no sense, and you are admitting to arguing with your emotions rather than objective facts. he never said $1M. you did, go argue with ya motha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:19 PM
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LMAO it was an analogy. If you couldn't get that... No wonder you don't understand what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:57 PM
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ummm Yes it was about the million dollars OP made that very clear. I know I'm taller, more attractive, smarter, and have more money than 90% of guys my age. So if a woman sleeps with another guy who has less of all of these things over me, just because he said the right things, she's actually an idiot. In this case OP is saying he's the million$. you keep trying to derail his Point on that. I'm not OP.... SO arguing with me is pointless on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:55 PM
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That's a different conversation. I was just pointing out OP's Point. On paper he was heads and shoulders in everyway better than the other option. The woman choose an inferior option, who only said what she wanted to hear. I agree that there are more reasons why she would choos, the second option over the first, (he never described what type of woman was choosing between the 2) but his complaint was that it was stupid of her to not accept 1 million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:43 PM
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nope, because your example doesn't display that the first guy is a superior option, and yours distorts the message of OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:26 PM
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but he’s phrasing it as if when a woman sleeps w him because he has these features, He's saying it because the woman compared him to someone else who... on paper is inferior to him in every way. But the woman decided to sleep with the guy who is subpar when compared to him anyway. Showing that she is make a less intelligent decision. Or put another way Someone offers you 2 choices. Offers 1 million$ Offers 50k$ but gives you a pat on the back and says good job. The woman in this example choose #…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:19 PM
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That's why you should have a husband who also works. If She choose to be a single mom, she can't complain. If she was married and got divorced she always has child support/alimony as an option.... even if she wasn't married she can still get Child support. If she has 50 - 50 Custody then that also takes a financial load off of her and gives her space and free time....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:36 PM
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This is most likely the most realistic outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:25 PM
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Chad is that woman’s Ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:46 PM
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Chad is that womens Ideal man. So yes. Whoever that women is, her ideal will always be attractive enough to sleep with her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:42 PM
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Does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:33 PM
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Maybe that’s for you. My female friends say and show otherwise…. As well as my lived experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:30 PM
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Wow you really want to fight for a reason for your shortcomings. The man did it using tinder, and he never met up with the women. He also used a famous athlete’s picture…..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:27 PM
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Again doesn’t matter if they aren’t getting laid. Men want to be a chad because they consistently get sex. You are confusing generally attractive traits that attractive men have, with being attractive. In the world that you keep describing, the hot potato would get laid no matter what he said. That’s not reality. Physical attraction is an aspect bit it’s not the whole package.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:19 PM
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Women are attracted to their status in addition to their looks and their charisma. Their looks were a small part of the package.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:15 PM
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Notice how you listed both actors..... IF they had the social skills of a potato the women would not want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:07 PM
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Read carefully, Bezos IS a chad to the women that find him that way. He has looks/status/networks and much more. Leonardo without acting is not a chad because he lacks those things.. Leonardo with Acting is a Chad to many women, as seen by the women who are with him. ​ Stop trying to do a gotcha. ANyway I'm done see ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:03 PM
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I have, I was part of the Chad thread, PEople agreed with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:00 PM
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if you're not above 6 feet you might as well be 5'1
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:00 PM
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incorrect. Chad is that Womans Ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:58 PM
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Bill Gates is known to have cheated all of his marriage. Is the autistic old nerd now Chad? His wife stayed through it until it was too much, Bill gates was..... Melinda gates Ideal man... HE even had a mistress that Melinda knew about and would send him to bang. The average man gets divorced after cheating once. Do you think a young Leonardo Dicaprio needed fame, money, or status to get laid? Yes he did, without it he is shortman.... he has to compensate.... fame is a good compensator.... it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:56 PM
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And Jeff Bezos is getting laid by being a betabuxx. That's it. That's not Chad. How many women is he pulling without the money and lifestyle? Not Chad, not even with luck. That's not desire for him. You know Jeff Bezos personally to say that or are you just making a baseless assumption? ​ Most men are in relationships or having casual sex, not just Chad. Most men aren't out here struggling and hopeless blaming some faceless name that gets sex and they don't. Chad no longer has a definition excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:44 PM
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The issue is, you ignored where I said if he's lucky. Dates aren't guaranteed sex. It's why men are complaining about being labeled free food in their dates phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:35 PM
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The average man doesn't consistently get laid or find dates. The average man from what I can gather goes on maybe 2-3 dates per month, if he's lucky he might get laid on one of those dates. A chad would be someone who is consistently getting dates and having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:29 PM
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You're saying a fat ugly slob is Chad if he can consistently land women to bed, If he can consistently pull woman to bed..... then yes he would be a chad. The women found him to be attractive and slept with him. Just because you find fat slobs unappealing doesn't mean everyone else does. Chad is the womans Ideal man. Nothing more nothing less. Jeff Bezo's is a very highly desired man. If he approached any common man and asked their wife/girlfriend out in front of their husband/boyfriend The woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:12 PM
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Chad is about success, that's what makes him a chad.... He has a high success rate, he knows what to do to make the girls swoon. It's more than looks.... The hot "potato" Will never be a chad because he will never get laid. Doesn't matter if women approach him if he can never do anything with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:01 PM
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Never said it wasn't important. YOU might think p-diddy is ugly. There are plenty of women who think he's a 10 looks wise. A physically attractive guy who's a 10 but has the social skills of a potato is not getting laid no matter how hot he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:56 PM
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That's YOUR ideal man. Physical attraction is just an aspect of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:52 PM
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Incorrect. Chad is that woman's Ideal man. A chad to you could be a frog to another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:49 PM
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Chad String women along because Chads have game. Hell P-Diddy is a chad and he openly told young Ma he's stringing her along. The women sometimes know and continue to be with him because they hope to change his mind. It sounds like you haven't actually interacted with people who have dated chads... or you have very little dating experience. This is something that is observable....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:43 PM
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You said these Chads are all shit in bed and 2 pump chumps. No amount of looks makes bad sex good. Chads offer more than looks and sex. Chads are the woman's "Ideal" man for whatever reason. If women only stayed with guys due to sex we would have a society that mirrors the bono monkeys. ​ These guys also move on to the next, because as you said he had no intention of ever committing or staying with her. Those were your words, therefore it's a casual thing Yes They had no intention of marrying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:33 PM
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Incorrect. While my friends did have ONS with chads and relationships with them that ended in various ways. YOU WERE THE ONE TO SAY THEY WERE ONS. ​ The reasoning is based on pair bonding. When she gets with chad in her younger years, she conforms to exactly what chad wants sexually, sometimes she’ll change her personality too.This happens in an attempt to keep Chad from leaving her… except Chad never had the intention of staying with her. So when he inevitably breaks up/ghosts her she becomes b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:18 PM
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My friends had many ons, with various “chads” over the years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:12 PM
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Me? None. My female friends? More than 10
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:09 PM
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It’s not only about sex, it’s about the feels she gets from the guy. Most of the time Chads are shit at sex, they are the 2 pump chumps. “Chads” know how to keep things exciting for her or make her “feel” Bob likes things to be stable. (not necessarily boring but it seems that way)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:04 PM
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Everything said here is ultimately an opinion, take it with a truckload of salt. Some of the people commenting are hyperbolic, nothing is truly bleak…. Unless you’re lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:01 PM
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The reasoning is based on pair bonding. When she gets with chad in her younger years, she conforms to exactly what chad wants sexually, sometimes she’ll change her personality too.This happens in an attempt to keep Chad from leaving her… except Chad never had the intention of staying with her. So when he inevitably breaks up/ghosts her she becomes bitter(alpha widowed) and takes it out on her future relationships (Bob). She will not conform herself to bob’s liking. Bob conforms himself to her. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:44 PM
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For those who care, learn how to be charismatic. With charisma you get the benefit of the doubt, you’re invited to events and parties. Both high value men and attractive women will naturally approach you. Giving you more opportunities to meet women and expand your networks. Then learn how to flirt. That will cover the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:54 PM
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Yeah… I really had hope for a moment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:36 PM
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Irrelevant. Whether you are or not....learning how to be Charismatic from others can only improve you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:47 PM
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Learn how to Be charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:44 PM
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"The Work" is all the skills required for attracting a woman and getting her to like you. As well as all The skills required to keep her engaged and etc. I will not list all that's required to keep a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:21 PM
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Dude, You were the one who said "the work"..... What does that sound like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:14 PM
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What about those of us who are happy with who we are and not looking to “do the work,” but would like to meet someone? ​ Can't complain about results if you don't want to put the effort in to get them. "The Work" Is what's required to meet someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:11 PM
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I'll use the primary example. Hi. I have no experience with playing guitar or singing, but want to join a band. What would you recommend? He is saying in this example that this person wants to join a band.... But they don't have the skills to join the band. They are asking for advice on what to do to join the band..... Which in this case... is learn an instrument or learn to sing. What about those of us who are happy with who we are and not looking to “do the work,” but would like to meet someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:04 PM
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You know how to cook for yourself only, and have no appeal to others is what's implied. You may love a peanut butter and TunaFish sandwhich.... but that's not going to appeal to the diners at the restaurant.... and if that's the only thing you know how to make.... would you still consider that cooking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:57 PM
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It's an apt comparison... It's also like wanting to be a chef but you don't know how to cook, and wondering why restaurants won't hire you.... even though your happy with your cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:54 PM
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I think they should add as a rule to CMV that OP needs to list what it would take to change their mind. Even with all the evidence he brought here, what does he want the women here to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:24 PM
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It's a joke dude lol. Are you that broken of a person that you don't understand the concept of humor? Jokes are usually found funny by both parties.... If only one person is laughing..... it's either not funny or that person is insane. I know you're not going to listen to anything I say because you lack the ability to admit to being wrong. Can't be wrong if it's an opinion and not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:28 PM
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https://youtu.be/eJO5HU_7_1w?t=101 Still irrelevant to the topic of Wha-t-abou-t-ism Don't know if you know this, but two people can have different opinions on what makes something what-aboutism Sure. You were the one who was trying to force your opinion on me though... so I'm not sure what your point is.... YOU responded to ME....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:48 PM
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and will smith doesn't have to cuss in his raps to sell records. What-aboutism- Trying to assert that someone can not have a counter opinion on something because it's impossible to take the opposing view is pretty arrogant. Again I'm not sure what opinion you think we are arguing, We were arguing about -Whataboutism-
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:39 PM
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Having an opinion that counters yours isn't trolling. Lol, we are not arguing over an opinion. What-about-ism. ​ But the truth is, you're just not as smart as you think you are. Once you realize that I think you'll find yourself to be a happier, less bitter person. That's projection on your part, I'm not the one trying to "educate" random strangers on the internet. I'm also not the one who resorts to insults when I'm upset with someone. My whole interaction with you has been professional at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:32 PM
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You can call it petty (more insults). I just don't have anything more to add. We disagree on how to use whatabout-ism. Simple as that. Talking about Men when the Main subject is Women is just pure deflection. Saying that, That isn't irrelevant is just trolling. Which is what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:21 PM
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I've had a clear and consistent point this entire time. Incorrect. Pure deflection I agree you are. I've made multiple comments explaining how you used it incorrectly. Incorrect. Insulting you is just a bonus lol Because you're mad lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:16 PM
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I would rather you shoot back any other points I made, but you seem to keep dodging them. I wonder why. Because you really don't have any points. You just want to troll, you haven't listed anything that counters how I used what about-ism.. Besides if I was wrong you wouldn't have needed to throw in any insults.. yet here you are. Keep trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:07 PM
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It's not. It is. It would only be deflection if it was a 100% proven fact that women don't take accountability. As it stands, it's just the other persons opinion that men bear responsibility. The primary person who I'm responding to.... is what I'm refuting. Not OP. To accept that men are the cause for not accepting accountability, is to accept that women are the reason for any mans short falling. It's circular logic. And I would shoot that back to you, you keep trying to press a point that has …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:58 PM
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Where? These are all abstractions and all of the conclusions are pay-walled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:38 PM
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When the topic is about why women can't take responsibility, And You use men as the main talking point about women..... That's a deflection from the Topic about women. It is irrelevant to say that men are the cause for why women can't take accountability. Accountability is a personal choice, That's the heart of the argument. That's why it's a deflection to use men as a reason.... That's why it's what about-ism. Saying men are the source of the issue... is the deflection when it's a personal choi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:35 PM
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This means nothing without your explanation. All this looks like as evidence supporting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:30 PM
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Yes? Especially if you include the context of OP comparing the two genders in his post. You're free to disagree with their opinion, and I'm not saying they're right at all. But it's not what-aboutism. Sorry dude. Incorrect, this is deflection. You just agreed with the statement " Women can't take accountability because men exist" Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:28 PM
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Right, So you are trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:23 PM
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Bringing up men as the cause for why women can't take responsibility is relevant to you? No you are just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:13 PM
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You literally used men in your example lmao Oh, you can't tell about nuance. I'll explain.... In my examples It Men weren't used as the main subject.... Neither of those are what-aboutisms either but I can tell you tried really hard so good effort. Now you are deflecting... please enlighten me, What's your made-up defintion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:04 PM
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He said to the man with Guyanese family. Since you have never been there, You are incorrect sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:57 PM
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What I got from OP was that Women don't take accountability at nearly the same levels as men, and he wanted to know the reason for it. I'll give an example on how you can answer this question without throwing men in to the mix. "It's possible Women aren't held the same standards as men AND so socially get more leeway." or "It's because other women don't like criticizing each other because we don't like brining each other down" Notice How I didn't say "Men don't take accountability so women shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:49 PM
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Red Pill talks about a subset of women, and generalizes that group. You are talking about all men everywhere. This Still isn't talking about why women aren't taking accountability. This is still whatabout-ism. Now it's What about red pill Redpill was created as a reaction to dating trends.... dating trends aren't the way they are today because of Red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:43 PM
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When the talk is about women and you say... "WHAT ABOUT THE MANS EXCUSES" or in this case actually listing the excuses.... That's what-about-ism..... Because you are saying...(essentially) what about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:36 PM
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That's What about-ism, The Topic is about women not men. (Amber Heard *cough*)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:20 PM
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It's a weak argument that's full of holes and doesn't describe anything. They would think you're having a stroke because it's so irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:17 PM
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I would love to see you as a lawyer make that argument in court. "Your honor! My client is innocent! MONKEY SEE!!!!(points to eyes) MONKEY DO (Points finger at prosecution)!!!! The defense rests your honor."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:14 PM
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Again that is a deflection and what about-ism. You are trying to deflect with circular logic. You are proving OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:10 PM
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That is what-aboutism and not on the topic at hand (considered a deflection)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:07 PM
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Guyana is a country you know. Not sure how I'm being nitpicky.....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:20 PM
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Incorrect, Guyana was a British Colony
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:02 PM
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That should tell you it's your perspective. I'm being super honest about it, it caused problems between me and him because I once asked him for advice and he gave me nothing I could use. So I had to observe what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:58 PM
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These are all British relationship traditions that spread globally You mean the old world super power that created colonies of the British Empire all over the world? The same old empire that had a whole foreign town to itself in Japan? which helped spread religion? Guess We will never know
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:57 PM
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We will indeed, Since my best friend growing up was 5'5 and he was/is always talking to girls and getting some action. All of my friends who are around that height work out and are outgoing, with my best friend who runs a gaming channel being more reclusive than most... but that's because he has 2 kids. I hope that one day you discover the power of being charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:53 PM
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Yes, they would have.... Because he used Charisma to charm them. Being tall only gives you a moment of their time. Charisma makes them want to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:48 PM
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You just assume because a man is tall he can go up to any woman and say, 1 sex please. That is not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:44 PM
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As a man who's 6'3'' I know that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:41 PM
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Finally! someone said it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:34 PM
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The men on TRP talk anecdotally and they witnessed women do this to them, either they slept with their close friend or heard it from a mutual friend who did date said women. In order for your statement to be true, I would have to believe that women never cheat, or don't willingly become mistresses. You would have to explain why women are willing to sleep with homeless men too, without wanting a LTR while your at it. If you can't answer or rebut point #2 especially....you will just be considered …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:31 PM
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I have experienced this as well, it's very jarring
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:54 PM
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Plenty of them don’t. There’s women that take the lead and approach who are also masculine. It’d take about the same amount of work to figure out how to attract those women as it would to figure out how to attract bottoms in a hypothetical universe. Sure the women that lead and approach are in the minority, otherwise people would complain that women approach all the time..... which sounds ridiculous. ​ Except the work you’re willing to do in the hypothetical universe could be applied in the real…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:26 PM
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Red Pilled women and "TRP" are diametrically opposed to each other. Red pill woman avoid TRP men because they are looking for marriage. It should be on the side bar of the sub, what they are about. They want a man who can lead and that's what they vet for. Being barefoot and pregnant is a strawman.... or in this case a strawwoman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:55 PM
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So you don’t have a retort, because you know I’m right. That’s why you’re laughing, it’s deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 06:18 PM
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In order to prove your statement you would have to ask every average guy if they are having CONSISTENT sex (more than once a year). You can not do that, thus making it impossible to prove. ​ a) You are a woman, Aggressively confident men approach. The average man does not approach. b) The guys that are successful at bars are player types. The average guy doesn't pick up women from bars or clubs, He may get lucky once in a while. c) Male sexlessness is on the rise So that works against what you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:27 PM
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That's a bold statement you can't prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:52 PM
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If it's easy for women to get then it's easy for men to get. Men can't get a free drink from a girl at the club easily. Doesn't sound like English is your first language. If you're not American ,he's talking about the average guy down here. The average woman doesn't see herself as Average here. She see's herself as no less than above average if not an 8/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:34 PM
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All it does is push good intentioned men towards TRP or manosphere stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:33 AM
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So if their partner isn’t hot, the study is saying they make no effort to keep in shape. Interesting 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 09:07 AM
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Well you didn't specify what type of attraction you were talking about. Hence why I gave a general definition, also the comment is about definitions not what makes people attractive. If you find someone sexually attractive, do you not find them to be pleasing to the eye?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:37 PM
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General term: someone or something that has a quality you find pleasing or beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:34 PM
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Yeah I agree, but that's pretty much life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:24 PM
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The problem is you are automatically assuming that one party has way more experience than the other. There are many situations where there can be an inexperienced older man and an experienced woman who's 20, if she's been dating long enough. You're also assuming that the older person is a player. It could be the younger person is a player and isn't taking the older person seriously. (normally with an older woman to younger man) People are attracted to attractive people. Clearly the older person …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:18 PM
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In order for the mentorship to occur it has to be in a field both related to them. Certain fields attract certain mentalities and personalities. You're not going to have an airhead lawyer for example(at least they won't last long) so anyone going into that field shares certain traits.... (that was an example) Hobbies are an example of having shared common interest. If there is a 20 year old girl who's into carpentry and she's in a carpentry hobby shop with a 50 year old man.... That's a common i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:05 PM
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Sure, but all that proves is that there is something in common. I don't know any men that date younger women and don't have any younger male friends, but that could just be my area.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:58 PM
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With that type of mentality then, there is no reason an older person should ever be friends with a younger person, they have nothing in common. Mentorships shouldn't exist, in fact all hobbies should be separated by age because it's impossible for them to have anything in common! In fact you should hate your mom and dad since they are older than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:52 PM
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The most major one would be that men and women communicate differently and use different definitions for the same words. Example: When a man says approach he's thinking cold approach, approaching a stranger. When a woman hears approach, She's thinking from a friend group or social circle with guys she has known for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:47 PM
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He cries himself to sleep after every time they have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:32 AM
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If you are in a first world country, there are physical matchmakers you can go to if needed. Either case finding a really good matchmaking or doing a long distance relationship would be your best way to reduce your risk. If you care to. Either way I wish you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:00 PM
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No, we get dating apps with extra steps. That's not matchmaking. I would love an Indian matchmaking service. They sound so fucking amazing. ??????????????????
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:48 PM
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Dating apps and matchmaking are 2 different services. You're saying that when you went to a matchmaker website you didn't speak to the matchmaker? Also a quick google search found me this Indian matchmaking services
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:45 PM
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Depends on who you ask. In the old days, TRP used to use Chad as a figure they mocked. Overtime the definition has changed to the hottest guy that a woman will drop everything for to fuck immediately Now I think it's changed to the woman's ideal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:42 PM
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I would fucking love a matchmaker. But I'm white in a white as fuck country and we don't have em. Would LOVE it. Like....what? There are plenty of matchmaker services, especially in a white country... I bet I can google some and find some in your country.... Unless you are currently in Ukraine..... you should be able to find them. Yes...it is. Just because men say it's not doesn't make it so. How about all the women who are in relationships? I get this information from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:36 PM
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And that type of "refusing to consider my points and rewriting it in the worst way possible " is why I'm on the defensive. I'm just letting you know how it comes across. I am not a combative guy, however text does not convey nuance. ​ I live in a country where my savings are guaranteed until 100.000. Too risky country might get over thrown. ​ I need a job to live. That's not a choice I have. I need to accept the risks because I need money to pay my bills. It is a choice, you can choose to not wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:24 PM
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same place you see men complain about women needing to lower standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:07 PM
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You are on the defensive because you don't have an actual counter argument to what I'm saying which is... It’s about reducing risk. If you take all the necessary precautions, you’ll reduce your chances of getting tricked. That's what we are talking about. you decided that it wasn't worth it to do anything that would reduce risk to a manageable state. Which is very illogical by the way, because you do plenty of things that have risk.... Do you keep money in a bank? that's too risky the bank my go…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:59 PM
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Well I always see men complaining about standards when the woman say she will only eat at 5 star restaurants everyday and any man that can't help her keep that lifestyle is below her... Meanwhile she makes 30k a year.... average bill for a 5 star restaurant is 377$ so to eat out everyday for the year is over 100,000$ the average man makes 40k - 50k per year. So she is only targeting the top 10% who have disposable income to eat out like that everyday. Meaning due to her standards she is not look…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:52 PM
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Risk averse is a fancy way of saying scared. It’s clearly not true that you would do the work. You haven’t even thought up or made ANY vetting questions. You gave up at the start because it was too hard. If you were risk averse you get with/find a man that could not harm you or trick you, like a pastor, eunuch…. Male teacher or something like that. That very fact you didn’t even try to consider what your other options were that would satisfy your needs. You want someone else to do the thinking f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:37 PM
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You want a 100% guarantee in a world that offers none. Vetting is the only way both men and women can protect themselves. I'm trying to be nice, but honestly you are coming off as lazy. You're excuse to not use vetting questions or protections boils down to, it's not 100% guaranteed to work. It's what guys have to face every day when they approach or ask a woman out. Guys get tricked and duped all the time even with their best efforts to reduce risk. When that happens you just learn from it and …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:39 PM
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Nah I bet OP is white knighting because he's interested in her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:18 PM
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I see you ae upset. no because you originally had your comment say 30% success rate, and that was an illogical argument. Like...that's what I said with 0% success and 0% failure? Why repeat me as if I didn't say that? You're comment never specified what was 0% success and 0% failure. As far as I could tell you were still talking about condoms. ​ I'm not fucking dating because I don't like the risk involved. That includes sex.. That's fine, You clearly don't want to do anything that would reduce …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:12 PM
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maybe traditionally raised women... Not the women that are currently available from ages 20 - 40. Most of my married friends the men pretty much does everything. In fact I often have to help out with the cooking for events and stuff for them because their wives don't know how to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:59 PM
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Where are you getting a 30% success rate? that's the rate how often condoms fail. I see you are upset. No need to get angry, don't want a child? then YOU don't ever need to have sex. that way you're 90% guaranteed to not get someone pregnant... Unless you get raped/spermjacked.... Nothing is 100%.... Except death and taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:54 PM
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yes a 70% success rate, is better than no condom. 30% failure rate is better than no condom, and you are least likely to produce a child while wearing a condom vs, not wearing one. Don't ty and argue that it's better to not wear one, that would be disingenuous. Even birth control isn't perfect, but those who have birth control are least likely to have an unwanted pregnancy than those who don't have it. The point is reducing your risks up's your chances of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:48 PM
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It’s about reducing risk. If you take all the nesscary precautions, you’ll reduce your chances of getting tricked. It’s like saying condoms are useless because there’s a .01 percent chance you’ll get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:00 PM
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“If only we could” implies that it is impossible to do, rather than difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:22 PM
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First, amber heard never got tried for perjury. Second, nothing is perfect but thats when actions have to back up words. Vetting is not perfect but it’s all we got.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:18 PM
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I guess you’re right, lawyers are wasting their time asking questions. Why even have a court system?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:10 PM
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Your mouth drops off your face when you ask a man a question? All vetting is, is asking the right questions. Men have to vet too otherwise, we end up as "Free meal" "Free Check" "Shopping spree"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:01 PM
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I saw that one lmao, Crazy. I guess all these men are forcing women to date them/have babies at gun point apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:31 PM
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I guess You're right. If only the women had the power to vet the men they sleep with!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:18 PM
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I understand that... but I addressed that with my first comment, ​ But you're a woman, Most of the work is done by the man anyway. Not even sure how you can become a good lover. Maybe good at BJ's, I doubt you're riding the man for 30 minutes at a time. Like what else are you doing besides laying there? Anything else you can do is more kink oriented. Only in KINK settings can you be a great lover, all you had to say was you were into kink. Because everything else you described is seduction. When…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:01 PM
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Okay, so you're either a troll, you got defensive because you can't answer, or you are a mistress and are ashamed of saying so for whatever reason. Either way, nothing I said describe what it's like having sex with you. You can describe sexual acts without being personally specific. I'll prove it. Doggy style. WOAH!!! look at that I described a sexual act without getting personal! Also That's soooo Boring to use the porn excuse. Everyone who has had sex will see through your non-answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:34 PM
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It's okay if you don't want to admit being wrong. See ya, I'm sure you're winning all of the arguments in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:42 PM
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Ah, I see. So you're mad, that I made a point you can't refute. So instead of having an adult conversation you go straight to insults. I know you're upset, but please try and be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:39 PM
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I responded to you in response of that comment, hence why the comment I made is underneath it, and not just below it. That shows the context of what I am talking about, because you asked that commenter a question that I thought was interesting, So I responded to it. Thanks for knowing how reddit operates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:36 PM
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I mean generally experiments go wrong several times before they work. An experiment going wrong here generally means the relationship is over. Incorrect, I was responding off this comment. I agree you should get a grip.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:28 PM
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You asked why I broke up a with a woman who was bad at sex, so I answered. My first response is about sexual compatibility, Women break up with men who are bad at sex after the first time. If they're good they'll come back to them, if they're bad they ghost them, unless Money is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:22 PM
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"The woman that, that particular man is in a relationship with." I broke up with an ex due to bad sex. I was too big for her There was nothing sexy about a woman in pain wanting you to finish as soon as you started. Maybe after some time it would have been better but that might have taken as long as month, and that was no guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:15 PM
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You say that, but you have yet to describe anything other than missionary or doggy position. Either the man is holding you in a pile driver position or he's holding you against a wall. He can hold you upside down in a 69 position, but in either of those styles it's the man doing 95% of the work 100% if he's doing all the thrusting. In tantric It can be more "equal" since it's more emotional anyway. Unless you're doing kink stuff, I think you are overestimating what you are doing. Even if you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:12 PM
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The women do, And men do in some extreme cases. (I have)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:05 PM
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Men don’t seem to want to read a book, talk to other men, or try things and see what the reaction is. Price of failure is pretty high for men try out the wrong thing once and that's it, some women will just cut you off. ​ I became a good lover through trial and error. Men need to do the same thing and take responsibility for their poor performance in the bedroom. But you're a woman, Most of the work is done by the man anyway. Not even sure how you can become a good lover. Maybe good at BJ's, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:48 PM
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I vetted her? Yes I did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:43 AM
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I read everything but let me expand more on my thoughts so it makes more sense. The you seeking out women to top has already been addressed. To further that point the same time, energy and information access you’d use in an alternate universe to figure where the women who like to bottom are, you could do in the current reality to find women that take the lead. I’m not arguing that one option is easier than the other. I’m arguing that it makes no sense to list one as a perk and another as a bane …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:49 PM
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If you read the side bar you’d see it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:28 AM
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Well, I understand the difference sexually of when a woman is turned on by you, VS her seeing you as a job. I can not have sex with a woman who is not enjoying having sex with me. It's boring to me if she's just going through the motions. Somethings can't be faked, If I have to use lube every time I'm going to have sex with my GF then it's not worth it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:18 PM
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People with lots of charisma get invited to events. The more events you are invited to the more experience you gain. This is not a catch 22, you can learn to be charismatic, and you can apply your charisma to your hobbies and events. That gets you to broaden your horizons and meet and network with more people. Having a big social network is what you want. Your value in upper echelons of society is dependent on it anyway. The more people like you the more they talk about you to their friends... t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 08:09 PM
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I disagree, I think it's all charisma. Through Charisma you gain the opportunities that get you the experience you seek. If you are charismatic people are more forgiving and more open to you as a person, and you get more leeway. Learning how to be charismatic can be challenging.... but not impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 06:57 PM
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What if she says yes, then what? Will you buy her the ingredients or ask her to make you dinner? What if she says I'll make you the next 5 star course you treat me to at my place, what's your next move? How can you tell if she can cook or not? It still tells me loads about her. That's when actions have to back up her promises/words. Then we talk about her cooking a meal for a near future/next date. Either she cooks the meal or doesn't, clearly if she can't cook... she'd be exposed as a liar. ​ T…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 05:49 PM
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Amateur or homemade would be their best bet, those are the girls that fuck for fun not funds. Commercial porn is just terrible I.M.O
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:00 PM
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It's really not, if it was easy then there wouldn't be people picking bad partners, divorces, or break ups. The ease is not just questions-the implication is they will be honest or outright avoid, men and women lie, it's easy to lie, especially to someone you don't know. That's why manipulation is so hard to detect. People say things to get what they want. You say that... but then state this... Vetting is a learned skill via lessons, life, and exposure, it's not instilled from birth. As with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:48 PM
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To peg you, if you want to top them you now have to go seek them out. So that is a nullification. It’s not trading a con for a perk. It’s trading work for work. Did you just ignore everything I wrote previously? It's not trading work for work, if they are approaching me and I already know what the ones who want to top want. The work is done, All I have to do is use the knowledge I acquired. It's easier to have 1000 women approach me and sort who is a bottom, then finding 1000 women and asking if…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:35 PM
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female doctors divorce at a rate of around 25% The most common reason for divorce is cited at working more than 40 hours for a female doctor. Marriage lasted longer with male doctors who worked over 40 hour days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:27 AM
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Essentially you’re talking about targeting dating. It’s about the same advice as saying get a hobby with women you want to date. As far as online swiping…. They mass swipe because the match rate is low. It then allows the man to know if any women that liked him matches. So he sorts through those that liked him. The match rate is so low though that even if he swiped yes on every girl it kicks you off after 100. The average guy might get 1 -5 matches that month. Also dating apps punish men who mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 02:25 AM
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really? he only see's women as a bed for the night, and openly calls them broads.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:28 PM
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That's understandable that they use FB, I just think it's an untenable position to say that they always do everything in mixed groups. Essentially you are telling me that you never had a girls night out, or that you never have done anything where it was an all girl group
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:26 PM
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How do you know the men in your sphere never do anything without women? If they didn't invite you to something, do you think they would tell you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:51 PM
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I think he's referring to people like this (youtube video of a homeless man who sleeps with a different woman every night for a bed)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 05:47 PM
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The debates here rarely change the minds of the person you are commenting towards. The point is to convince the Lurkers and fence sitters who read your comments but don't interact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:32 PM
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I think it will be a game changer, As long as side effects aren't terrible.... I can see men using it, and being more responsible about it since it's not a daily pill. It definitely will change the landscape more than the female condoms (which I have never seen a women use or even have)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:06 PM
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Yeah pretty much stalking. Obviously I didn’t follow them the whole day, but when I talked to the woman after they confirm they didn’t know the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:39 PM
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I should have been clear, I’ve seen men following women they didn’t know in broad daylight.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:31 PM
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I’ve seen that last point. It’s more common than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:24 PM
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Dating is hard for men, is true but the reason is why is not simple. Men who don't have any single women in their friend groups aren't going to have any easier time dating, they'll be forced to cold approach or use Online Dating. Most women in social groups are already in a relationship and when they are single it's frowned upon by men to date another's EX, and can break up the friend group. so those men are forced to cold approach or use Online Dating. When using Online Dating, the women have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:43 PM
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What makes a man, is it the power in his hands? Is it his quest for glory? Give it all you got, to fight to the top, So we can know your story? What makes a man, is it the woman in his arms, Just 'cause she has big titties? Or is it the way he fights everyday? No, it's prob'ly the titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:12 PM
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Ah so women have to develop the talent of mind reading and deception decryption, instead of men just being honest with their intentions from the beginning. Please make a post detailing how women should develop this, what to look out for as manipulation seems to be easily detected through vetting, how to get honesty out of men in terms of their goal for the relationship, what acting/behaviors should be focused on to prevent being used for sex. It's not a gendered issue, That's why the vetting que…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:06 PM
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I think this is where the difference in our opinions lie. Or maybe you’ve just been more lucky to only encounter honest people. Background checks and character references are all a part of vetting too and they provide a lot of valuable information. I've encountered people of all types and from experience I've been able to develop questions that work for me. Also people can hide information from background checks making them useless. That's also way too much, think about this for a second. If I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:34 PM
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Easy: if you've been dating for a while (like at least 3 weeks) see if he's willing to meet your friends/family. Any man willing to meet and hangout with friends/family is at least serious about the girl he's with. IF he's constantly dodging or cancelling to hangout with your friends/family that's a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:21 PM
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Well, He can either Cheat, or break up with her because they are sexually incompatible. Judging by how you described his sex life, It sounds like he "lucked" into a girlfriend and is afraid he'll be single for a long time if he breaks up with her. He's going to be resentful for sure... lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:35 PM
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then you are missing what i'm saying.... "It's only creepy is he's ugly" Is true.... if the women rejects one man from approaching because she didn't like him and he was ugly. And she accepts a date from another man who approached... the same day because she liked him... She could say the first man was sexually harassing her.... because she didn't like him. In this instance it's looks, but it doesn't always have to be looks. An Unwanted advance can be for ANY REASON. Why does she not like him? b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:29 PM
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Unwanted advances is up to personal discretion. You are the only one who takes it to mean only physically unattractive. The definition of unwanted.. is vague because it's up to PERSONAL(YOURS) PERCEPTION. So the only person here who is hell bent on it being looks... is you. ONLY YOU can determine what an unwanted advance is. The definition makes no mention on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 04:15 PM
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So "it's only creepy if he's ugly" is untrue. According to the legal definition that courts use.... Yes it is. Once again.... what makes something "wanted" VS "Unwanted", in the definition of sexual harassment? The answer is personal perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:31 PM
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I would say solving personal problems are more important to men. If a man has a problem with getting sex, then that has his attention. If a man has a problem finding a wife then that has his attention, because he solved the problem of getting sex. If a man has a problem with sustaining a marriage... then that has his attention, he won't be complaining about finding a wife since he has one. Although you can just say these are just human problems, people in general only complain about their issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:17 PM
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You can not like a person for reasons other than them being physically unattractive to you. For example, because they think that "nice ass" is an appropriate way to start a conversation. I never said you could not like a person for reasons other than them being physically attracted. Not liking the person is a vague statement for a reason. This is about employment law. This thread is (mostly) talking about situations with strangers in public, not with co-workers on the job. That's the legal defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 02:01 PM
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I wish there was a way to know for sure Well that could be just my local area in the city.... But every woman I ask always prides themselves on never having to approach. Logically based??? Women who are more masculine than feminine. ​ Most men don’t even col approach. Most successful dating from asking someone out comes from asking friends and such Maybe from a woman's perspective, since women are more likely to be invited to a friend group than a man. The average single man doesn't hangout with…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:45 PM
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Vetting them to get to the ones that are into being bottoms on top of the other compatibilities unless you just wanted sex. Vetting is just asking questions, I don't consider that work. You only need to come up with one good set of questions to filter out people right away. At worst I would have to put in 1 day's worth of work figuring out good vetting questions... but that's the easy part. I had to do that while dating women, so it's a non-issue since both genders have to do it. And if you enco…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:33 PM
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Well going by the definition of Sexual Harassment. It's only sexual harassment if you don't like the person. Otherwise what's the difference between "Welcomed advances" VS "unwelcome advances".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:17 PM
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Not really, You are just saying that the top 20% men have all the power and charisma. Because the average man doesn't own a yacht. The average yearly salary for the average man is 40k - 50k/year.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:13 PM
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Yes but the difference is your responsibility lays with vetting the man and being able to detect if he is acting, or being honest. Being able to detect if a man is after only sex when you want a relationship is part of your responsibility to vet. No one is complaining about you rejecting a guy who wants something different from you. The issue comes from when a woman has a poor vetting system and ends up with the same type of guy, then forms the opinion that all guys are the same.... when they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:11 PM
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Some of you do sure, but that's not the common experience. you ask most women if they have approached, they normally say no.... or they approached like 5 times in their life. Atypical women and more logically based women may approach men, but those women are the exception. Other women in this thread admitted to only asking guys in their friend group or social circle. Like there's no way you are cold approaching many men and getting rejected. But then again when last we talked about approaches yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:57 PM
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This Post was brought to you by the "black pill"... Making the world darker one day at a time /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:36 PM
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Betabux Is just a term used for men who are, for lack of a better term... "Pussy whipped" by their wife. If your husband is a doormat and lets you disrespect him, and you only have sex once a month.... or even once a year... then he'd be a beta. Since you've been with him for 18+ years and you at least "appear" happy I would say ignore the "BB" comments. Some people here just use a 1 size fits all glove and lack the ability to see nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:02 PM
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The point I was making was about how they met. Guys asking girls to hangout 1 on 1 sounds like a date to most girls. You’re telling me that’s how your male friends became friends with their female friends? Or Most of your male friends were introduced to your female friends while they were in a relationship first or it was through school/college.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:42 AM
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So your friends met them when they were single and have been platonic friends ever since who hangout with each other 1 on 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:48 AM
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thought so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:03 PM
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Still applies the emotion of hate because of the word discriminates. Have you been lovingly discriminated before? Do racist's just love minorities so much they discriminate against them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:54 PM
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anytime I've done that the women tend to be BBWs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:51 PM
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better yet, let them swipe or talk to women on tinder from their single male friends phones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:49 PM
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Oh... so you won't even click to read the definition.How can you have an argument or debate in good faith if you're not willing to participate.... : a person who hates or discriminates against women Looks pretty black and white to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:30 PM
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Most misogynists don’t hate women Yes misogynists hate women It's the literal definition. What you're describing is a Bias against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 08:16 PM
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We will agree to disagree then. The only time I have noticed average men hangout with women in friend groups consistently was when they were already in a relationship, or they have sisters. Unless you are talking about School/college age average men, I don't see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:16 PM
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Men already do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:45 PM
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The average guy hangs out with his peers and people he can relate to, If he has a girlfriend then he brings her to the friend group to hangout with them. When none of them have partners.... they're not hanging out with single women shooting the shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:43 PM
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Is this true of gamers? Gamer's are all types, so Yes and No. Because all of my friend groups in every place I lived has been mixed. Depends on how you make friends, also depends on your gender. Women can make friends 1000X easier then men. Both women and men are willing to overlook almost any glaring character flaw to be friends with women. For men to make friends Charisma and utility is normally a baseline requirement. ​ I’ve never been to a party or cookout that was all one gender in my life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:39 PM
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The average guy, mostly consists of all male friend groups. When women do enter the friend groups it's usually because one of their friends has a girlfriend/wife. In these mixed friend groups.. even if there are women there... they are already in a relationship.... so you can't date from them. Women...RARELY want to be platonic friends with men anyway. Unless you are in school/college it will be very hard to find or acquire a mixed friend group that has single women in it as well. So lack of fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:19 PM
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When women approach, it’s usually after they’ve established some common interests and mutual attraction. Makes rejection far less likely. That's called approaching with-in your friend group, that is not exclusive to women, men do that as well... if they have they friend group that supports it. Men should try that. Men already do that. No one should have to endure 20- 99 rejections for one number. It’s dehumanizing. That's the reality of cold approaching when you don't have a friend group to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:12 PM
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I mean really? Are you sure it's not just one guy or one type of guy just saying that? If you know any comments that are like that can you link me to it? Maybe I just don't read the posts those guys are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:33 PM
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True, They don't date women. The women I have talked to seem to also not understand the power of not needing to approach. It takes rejection off the table, you already know the person likes you when they do. With rejection off the table they don't know what it's like to face your 20th rejection in a row.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:08 PM
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The women in that original thread downvoted any men who said they respected or treated with as humans. So I'm not surprised you only witnessed the men who commented on hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:03 PM
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Why would you intentionally try to make a woman uncomfortable? Why would you intentionally try to make anyone uncomfortable? It's always baffled me how, when men read the OP .... we instinctively know that, it's already implied that you are not being creepy or not doing anything against the law. Yet whenever the woman here respond, it's almost always the worst interpretation of what was posted with the worse implications. They always assume the guy is going to do something like sexually harass h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:48 PM
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Men Aren’t not getting invited to parties because they’re ugly. It’s lack of charisma. looks would matter more for invites if women own yachts and invited men to yacht parties. But it’s men sending out invites and they only want women and their friends. Looks has nothing to do with party invites for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:08 PM
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cool, but it wasn't a pissing contest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:16 PM
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My friends are also above 30, Guess i'm just closer to my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:27 PM
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That's not the point. I imagine you think I just randomly go up to my friends and ask... "You like being pegged?" sometimes I do. It just comes up in conversation when we talk about sexual stuff, whether it from watching a movie that had a funny sex scene or something of that nature. Or if they have problems with their sex life and they want my advice they'll bring it up, or even joke about something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:24 PM
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I ask them, without turning it into an interrogation. Normally I share something and then they share something related, if they can relate/trust you. At least that's what works for me, that's how I know which of my friends are okay with being pegged or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:06 PM
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You’re going to have to put in more work again to find those specific women. What work am I putting in if the women are approaching me? You get the swipes and approaches of people wanting to penetrate you. Women who want the opposite won’t be as open about it to strangers.So you’d have more interested parties but now you have to do more work sorting through and vetting more people to find the specific ones into the same things sexually. that's fine.... that's what dates are for, there is no issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:04 PM
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lol, so you can't admit defeat. yes you were wrong. ​ see ya!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:40 PM
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it was partially tongue in cheek women agreed with me. you were the only one who didn't get that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:38 PM
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uh-huh. The point was to show that it's easy to find women's preferences for sex.... where you said it could not be found. Men have no idea how much porn women consume because women aren’t going to admit to men that they watch porn. Can you figure out why? The point of me finding sources was simply to prove you were just making baseless emotional assumptions, besides I know you didn't read all of the sites and articles anyway. And the only person here who looks small is you. you were the hostile…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:35 PM
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hmmm, you seem to be making sweeping generalizations about all men. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but it sounds like you don't have any friends. You are lacking the nuance that is needed for this discussion, Emotional porn doesn't replace a sex life it fulfills a need that decreases the "want" for sex.... but does not eliminate it. To deny that emotional porn is fulfilling just reveals your lack of understanding. also.... studies, can show.... what women are into. Seems like that was easy …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:23 PM
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Explain your comment. I want you to know, you are coming at me extremely hostile and you never interacted with me until this moment....Nice to meet you. I will be the bigger person and answer. As the comment below said, women use lifetime as emotional porn. Women care more about the feelings and emotions than men do on average. That's why erotic novels are consumed more by women (50 shades ring a bell?)... It's why Lifetime is watched mainly by women. The fantasy is more powerful than watching t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:51 PM
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you are talking to the wrong guy. I never ever said women don't like to masturbate or don't like sex. It seems to me you think... all men... are the same. for shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:37 PM
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so is it fair to say you only know about their marriages from what you perceive/what they are willing to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:31 PM
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Isn't female porn just shows on the lifetime channel
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 02:33 PM
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What I’m saying is you listed having to do less work to find women as a perk, yet in the alternative scenario you out yourself back in the same situation(having to find women) by limiting yourself to women that are exclusive bottoms only. You mean Listing my preferences? It's a perk because I have the suitors coming to me. I do not have to go out and cold approach (unless I want to). I get all the swipes in O.L.D so it makes finding the person that matches my preferences easier. I go to the plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:49 PM
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I’m confused as to what you are saying. I already addressed how to overcome meeting like minded people. I already addressed how to get what you want. What isn’t clear?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:24 PM
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Yes, these men had to approach and vet the women to make them their girlfriend. The women didn’t just magically appear and agree to be exclusive. I’m just not seeing an issue. You only need to get one person(if you’re not poly/swinger) who fits your needs. Doesn’t really matter how long it takes as a guy to meet someone as our sperm still works past 75. It just sucks ass if it took that long. But that compromise you make to yourself with deal breakers.( in this case penetration is a dealbreaker)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:12 AM
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🤔? Coaxing out? I know guys who get pegged. They straight up ask their girl to do it. Most of the time their girlfriends dont have a problem. Even if I was into pegging, that would be a kink and I could 100% meet a girl into that in my local setting super easy. Sites like fetlife helps like minded kinksters meet up. I’ve already had to solve my personal kink problem. I found out where like minded people gathered and it’s no longer an issue for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:17 AM
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I never said I wasn’t doing that. That’s how I was able to meet my girlfriend. Only difference was I had to approach many women to find her. Would have been nice to have them come to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:04 AM
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Not seeing a problem, I’d just adjust myself to attract the ones who don’t want to top. Any who do that approach me, I can just say no to them. I understand that there will be difficult people… but thats life I deal with pushy people already. As long as they don’t get physical I’m not worried, and if they do then I’ll call the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:20 AM
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well if it's consensual.... I'm not seeing a problem, with so many women actually Approaching me... the hard part about being a man.... is over. I only need to select from the women who are fine with not being able to penetrate me anus. Even if they were the stronger sex... I'm still not seeing an issue due to legal protections I just would be smart about how I dress and where I go.... Like I currently have to do now anyway.... and I'd be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:51 PM
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Definition of admire transitive verb 1: to feel respect and approval for (someone or something) : respect verb transitive verb 1a: to consider worthy of high regard : ESTEEM I have basic respect for everyone, who is not hostile towards me. If someone is aggressive towards me I lose respect for them because it's normally an unprovoked attack. That being said.... Women I'm not attracted to, are just people....I treat them like I do a man.. I'm not sure what you mean... you phrase the question as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:20 PM
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Well, The easy answer: It's a mental health issue get everyone a therapist and the low self esteem and confidence will slowly be solved across the country. Realistic Answer: 1.You would somehow have to force people to be together and socialize.... Alternatively Bars/night clubs transform and evolve to be social hubs that have something for everyone.... You would have to create an incentive that's strong enough to make people want to leave the comfort of their home.... and the incentive would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:21 PM
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I have read and practiced and applied all of it. Models and "how to win" were helpful for me in understanding what charisma was and how charismatic people operate. Once you see it, you start to see the applications with other people in their daily life. NLP is extremely effective, worked from day 1. With NLP you don't need anything else, you just need a good teacher.... that's the problem with learning NLP. Toastmasters is a group that allows you to practice/improve your public speaking skills a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:46 PM
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I'll provide 2 options, one will get you there faster. Light side: You can join a toastmasters group and learn the art of being humorous, also books like Models by mark manson, and how to win friends and influence people can be good if you take out the elements that apply to you. Darkside: Just learn NLP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:22 PM
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why lower your standards, when you can raise your skill set to be more attractive to the people you want. Just sounds like you need more charisma to be appealing to the women you are after. I say this because I have witnessed overweight men get Objectively beautiful women with nothing but charisma. Otherwise if you are not planning on working out and getting muscular (which would drastically increase the amount of women who would want you for you.) You are more at risk of getting caught with a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 05:08 PM
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So in this trade off I'm more attractive to Gay men as well as women? because women won't be able to sodomize me no matter how much they wish. I'm also going to have to assume more attention = more women attracted to me (otherwise I could walk naked and i'll have all attention on me in the city). I'd take that trade off, I have this thing called strength... and legal knowledge..... If someone wanted to sodomize me without my permission that would be called rape and I would report them to the pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:17 PM
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Both choose, in dating: Men choose who they approach Women choose from who's approaching. Both have to agree for their to be any relation. In marriage: One partner has to ask The other partner has to accept/deny. Unless it's a shotgun wedding.... well then you get a sitcom on fox called married with children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:12 PM
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My most "successful"friends were 5'5, The type of women they got with depened on how charasmatic they were. One friend got buff and just pretty much went after big girls as they were the ones mainly attracted to his muscles. He is currently single though with 2 kids same mom. Another friend had more of a slim body, he was the pastors son but was more charismatic he dated and slept with the popular girls. He currently has a family with 2 kids, wouldn't be surprised if he's still popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 03:06 PM
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What makes a man boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:52 PM
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The problem with the advice is the following: Who were they being before if not themselves.... The reason why the advice is bad is because it does not give any actionable or point out what the man in question is doing wrong. He's having difficulty because he is being himself. Imagine saying "Be yourself" as advice to an incel.... Well they will continue to be incelish... and then wonder why they aren't getting results. It's also dismissive advice, the person giving that advice hasn't taken the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:13 PM
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The scammers are very common, if you’re not black you’ll have easier time booking. I do have first hand experience, I got deposit scammed… and turned away by escorts once they found out my race. Google search any escorts number to see if they’re real, or to see if it’s a scam number. Don’t fall for the deposit scams, if you get any calls or death threats from “pimps”…. Then those are most likely Dominican scammers Most escorts now a days are independent or work for some big escort company. You’l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:37 PM
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Sure, and I have done those dates... Those dates are not really productive in getting to know the person.. and the person you are dating has to like parks/coffee/long walks. I feel like dates where you only talk aren't really good date spots... could just be personal. That's not every woman's cup of tea, besides they still expect you to cover any costs during the date. Lets say you do coffee dates.... it's only cost effective if you go on 2 -3 coffee dates per week. that still adds up, because c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:56 PM
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I have to put a disclaimer that I'm also an attractive man who is 6'3. For me in College days getting women I knew over to my place IRL was the easiest thing in the world, but back then I was too polite to make any moves. In terms of dating success... If I was able to get a girl on a date It was usually a done deal. I usually slept with the woman by the third date. I used to get really upset if it wasn't by the first date... but then I had to re-adjust my expectations and things got better. perc…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:40 PM
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Now I'm only talking about dates from O.L.D approaching a girl from a friend circle or from college IRL is a different experience. That would be easier to get to come to your place because they're already familiar with you or they can do a background check through their friends about you. It's true as you date older women, they start to have higher standards and they are less "Fun". Although I know that my issues with dating(back then) had more to do with looking like I was "relationship materia…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 05:15 PM
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" I don't feel comfortable coming to your house for a first date, Lets meet somewhere public first". That's the common response I have gotten whenever I tried. ( I tried a lot). So all you are telling me is that you are extremely physically attractive. Of the countless women I have ever asked on a date, only 2 came over to my place for a first date. Incidentally they ended up in a LTR with me afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:32 PM
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I think it's pretty funny to have threads about having social circles to people who don't even get invited to parties
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:23 PM
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When you have game sure. The average man will be 100% unsuccessful if he asks girls to come over their house for a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 04:04 PM
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It happens to the guys that are "Too nice" because usually these women end up fucking their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:48 PM
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Because sex is what drives men to do most things. Sex is something that is not easily attained for the average guy. The thirstier the guy the more likely he is willing to do "X,Y or Z" to get sex. Don't be fooled however... After the guy has had sex he immediately does a cost benefit analysis of the whole interaction. If he thinks the sex is worth it he'll continue to see you.... If he doesn't that's when he Ghosts you or breaks up with you. Any man that can say getting sex is easy.... is not an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 02:13 PM
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You forgot to add the costs of the dates to your list, 40$ - 150$ per date depending on where you go, So financially you are limited to how often you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 01:22 PM
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r/DeadBedrooms is a good place to start looking
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 08:08 PM
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I would have to disagree with you, My girlfriend isn't subordinate to me. That would be a nightmare, I do not want to have to control another persons' life in addition to my own. I don't like to think of people as sims. Maybe you are using subordinate with a different definition? Because that's just not what I see with the couples in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:39 PM
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The reason why American single mothers get a bad rap is because of the narcissistic personality they tend to overwhelmingly have. Also they never consider what the man they want…. Want. Thats why they are insufferable they only focus on themselves and themselves alone. Like for a first date they want the guy to buy dinner for their kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:35 PM
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It helped me be able to identify my flaws in debate style, and helped me organize my thoughts on subjects I never have to think about in my offline life
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:12 PM
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Okay, so we were using different definitions. You were using what’s called a cold approach, where 2 strangers talk. I was using approach in the general term, when a man (stranger or friend)shows sexual interest in you. Like a person flirting with you, would be someone approaching you or showing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:57 PM
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Okay, so I think I understand the disconnect. My core point was that both sides choose. Doesn’t matter if it’s casual dating or a proposal. The man chooses who he asks, The lady decides if she answers. Even in friendship, both have to want to be friends. A one sided friendship is just…abuse. As far as being approached, how are you defining that? I get the sense you only mean cold approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:49 PM
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“Last time I checked it was men who proposed to women not the other way around. So it is men choosing women to marry and controlling marriage.” That’s your quote… Seems you are contradicting yourself. It’s a very rare women that doesn’t get approached. She would mostly have to be home 24/7 among other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:52 PM
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If you think I’m being hostile I worry for you when you encounter actual hostility. Making sarcastic/and condescending remarks... are hostile. I also recommend you re read the definition of privilege Condescending and sarcastic reply. If you weren't being condescending you would have copy and pasted the version of the definition of privilege you were using... You did not, proving my point correct on your incorrect usage. Vast majority of women can’t just pick and choose men to date. In my person…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:51 PM
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privilege So you don't think women get to choose who they date and have sex with. you don't think being able to choose..... is a privilege. here's an example of privilege It is evolving into an elite institution, open chiefly to the well-educated few. In short, marriage is becoming yet another form of privilege. According to how you use the definition, you would say that you reject marriage as a privilege. I don’t even know what you’re referring to. “Think like me” how ? You are still defending …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:36 PM
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So it was the term Bellcurve that through you off, and you do indeed think it's a fact that most women think like you. So there is no piece of evidence or surveys that if presented to you... you would ever believe. Also look up the definition of privilege.... because you are using it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 05:00 PM
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It seems like both of you have forgotten that lower ≠ low That statement can be taken as being hostile. It can be considered an unprovoked attack since you are making a personal attack on my reading comprehension. That does not seem like a logical, thing to say to someone who isn't being hostile or aggressive to you. No, He isn't saying that men have lower standards.....for attractiveness. He's saying women are privileged in that (all) men find more traits and body sizes attractive, as demonstra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:52 PM
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So you think it's a fact that "most" women think like you? You would have to provide proof of this claim... furthermore Men rate women's attractiveness, and it comes out as a bell curve; women rating men's attractiveness is heavily skewed towards the upper end. I.e. "low quality" men are invisible to women. How did this statement.... turn into... So you’re saying women are privileged because men have lower standards ? This? Nothing about this means that men have lower standards. Was it the term …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:35 PM
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A lot of women don’t even like dating for various reasons. That is a defense statement, along with.... I just don’t consider men having lower standards a female “privilege” because most of us don’t benefit from that If you had said that you didn't like to date for various reasons then it would be personal... But here in this statement you are speaking for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 04:07 PM
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I'm asking out of curiosity, not being malicious. Why did you jump to defending all women instantly? Sure not a lot of women don't like to date but... that wasn't the question? unless I am not understanding correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:10 PM
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Escorts are very discriminating, They will take advantage of naive men and usually don't take black clients. One common story among all early users is how an escort will show up talk to you for the allotted time you booked... and then leave without any of sexy times. Unless you just skip banter and tell them to get naked they do everything in their power to scam you out of your time and/or steal your money. With it being illegal here there are many hoops you have to jump through just to even tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:56 PM
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My brothers advice was "just to talk to them"...Sure, I talked to many women... without knowing how to flirt it was all meaningless. Tv's advice was just have a good personality be nice and respectful and women will like you.... That only works if the woman in question already likes you and is actively flirting with you... Which she won't do if she thinks you're a doormat which acting nice or being accommodating gets you labeled as. Best advice I saw that addressed it was from a lady back on cra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:19 PM
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Then all in all isn’t the study saying women are more likely to “be risky” with their boyfriends/husbands? No because the study doesn't mention marital status as a factor, just the attractive qualities. It's shocking because some men (possibly OP) only ever encountered women who made him jump through hoops. Rules? In the example i provided... Rules would be her requiring Billy to wear a condom. Rule breaking would be her requiring Bob to not wear a condom. Is that what the study is about who? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 06:18 PM
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Attraction is an umbrella term, all of the qualities that are listed are "attractive". Physical is one aspect.. but a man who shows commitment, and is good with money... is also attractive. I think OP just used the general term because OP didn't say physical attractive only. the point still stands, that if a man does check all the boxes she's willing to throw precaution to the wind, VS a man who doesn't. Keep in mind, I'm not saying that it's good or bad. I personally don't care, but to the man …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 04:02 PM
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I assumed it was to keep the discussion simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:50 PM
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I accept your apology. thank you for showing understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:43 PM
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That's fine, No one is knocking you for your preferences... What's being discussed via OP and the study, is what makes women engage in risky sex vs non risky sex. The study points out the more attractive you are the more willing she is to have unprotected sex. This is not a blanket statement on all women. The discussion is about how when a woman likes you... she breaks her rules for you....(risky sex) vs when she doesn't like you she makes rules for you (non-risky sex). These talks are using the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:42 PM
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understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:26 PM
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Risky sex... is exotic sex.... I didn't say kinky... The only person moving the goal posts is you. Admit your wrong and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:24 PM
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where did I say women don't? I talked about sexually comatibility, Did you not read OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:22 PM
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What's really funny is how, I broke your argument and how you can't admit I'm right. Ha ha. Shame You want to risk STD’s and pregnancy? Guilt That’s just dumb Insults not “sexual incompatibility”. The need to be right. Sexual compatibility.... is when you are compatible....sexually.... meaning you both are on the same page sexually..... doesn't matter the reasons....... you can't make up your own definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:21 PM
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If you want to have sex without a condom.... and she wants to have sex with a condom and won't have sex with you without one..... that's a sexually incomapatibility. If she wants to have sex with a condom.... and you don't want to have sex with a condom... but she decides to have sex without a condom anyway because you like it that way..... it sounds like she likes the second guy way more than the first.... Since the article defines Risky sex as unprotected sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:14 PM
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Marry who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:09 PM
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Strange how that was what you took from that..... It's settling if you and your partner aren't sexually compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:05 PM
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No, you are telling me how you... a woman who doesn't date other women... (also I know you have a hard time understanding social situations so your perceptions are not the norm.) What it's like to be in a relationship with a women. That's like trying to tell a black guy who experienced racism... what it's like to experience racism as a privileged non-black person.... They will just stare at you incredulously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:04 PM
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Those questions are irrelevant to the topic. The Topic isn't that all married women settle.... It's that she is considered settling for you if she is restrictive about sex with you. If she gave the A OK before but you get the NO it’s likely you are being settled for. In terms of me.... My current partner does whatever I like sexually. So I know she's not settling for me... Although I base that answer on more than just sex. you know you were settled for when you have a dead bedroom...... I know m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 03:01 PM
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I'm not married, longest relationship was 15 years. My friends are married though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:45 PM
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Yes you talk to women... Platonically. You can only see through the lens of a woman, and you have never considered how things look through the lens of a man dating women. I bet you don't even have any real male friends who honestly talk with you. I talk to women both platonically and romantically. I know how women act in relationships, I know how women act when they're in love with someone (i've experienced it) I know how they act when they loath to be with you (I have experienced it). Please ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:21 PM
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Right.... so you only are involved with women Platonically... so you don't know what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:14 PM
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It will only affect married women who cheat most likely. Otherwise they'll just take Child support off the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:12 PM
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So you don't date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:10 PM
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The OP assumes that the man in question found out her past through some means. With that evidence of her displaying she's not fully sexually attracted him, it shows she see's him as lesser. If she has reasons why she doesn't do X,Y or Z that's up to her partners discretion on how important it is to him and how he feels. Regardless it's always going to be a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:10 PM
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No, it's reality. You clearly never dealt with a single mom. Do you date women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:07 PM
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Conclusion = you and your girlfriend aren't sexually compatible and should break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:02 PM
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Because she'll act like a queen and treat you like a servant. It's ultimately about respect and she doesn't respect the man she's settling for. The issue is that the guy KNOWS, if she were to get back with her EX.... she'd go right back to all those "Risky" sex maneuvers that she didn't want to do with her current partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 02:01 PM
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If women occupied that job at 100% capacity you would be right. Unfortunately men occupy (at least here in America) 10 - 30% of female dominated jobs. So at worse a 90 -70% slow down in service. Where as women only occupy 3 - 5% of male dominated jobs. 95 - 97% service in slow down. Drastically different. Men leaving is a collapse. Women leaving is a slow down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 05:03 PM
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Really what about the huge numbers of single moms who don’t? They’re not outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:44 PM
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Sure, except their current existence proves you wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:38 PM
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Because the obese 45 year old has the same standards as when she was 20.. and the 20 year olds of today will become the obese 45's of tomorrow if nothing changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:32 PM
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The answer is nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:21 PM
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Sexual access is the only thing Men are "Renting".... Women who offer more, are "Bought" or married. The women that can and do offer more are snatched up. The women that can only offer Sex are the ones who can't keep a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:55 PM
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Well if you want to compare then fine. According to us stats you are wrong as I’ve displayed the information. There are more male cooks than female according to the stats….. There will still be vets, They would just be male. Service would slow down is the only consequence. There would still be doctors and nurses, they would just be male. Also all of these doctors techniques and skills…. Derived from home remedies…. Also there is nothing saying people can’t learn how to treat those illnesses. Goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:49 AM
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You haven’t linked any sources on women not being hired to trades based off their gender. 2 for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:31 PM
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You admit you, can’t prove your point! I won the debate!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:28 PM
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nope that's irrelevant, there would still be service.... there would still be doctors and nurses, they would only just be male. Edit#1 Having your alt accounts downvote is looked down upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:03 PM
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Well since the point of our disagreement was that you believed that men weren't hiring women due to being women.... them being harrassed is irrelevant since that is not what is being discussed, you have yet to provide proof of that. now if you want to bring up the topic on why their leaving the jobs.... that's a different topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:01 PM
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There would be nurses and doctors.... they just wouldn't be female... The jobs aren't going away, only the female nurses and doctors.... There would be men to fill it, and if it was understaffed it just means service is slower. So yes you would still be protected.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:00 PM
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This only talks about women leaving.... It's not saying that women aren't being hired because their women..... which was your point.... So this has not proved that men aren't hiring women....because their women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 07:59 PM
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Easy. You have to prove that men aren't hiring women in trades because they're women.... The burden on proof lies with your claim that they are not hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:53 PM
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Healthy living can prevent cancer unless it was genetic.... Then healthy living reduces the effects of cancer on the body for longer.... since you wouldn't be feeding the cancer cells.... I would know, My mom had pancreatic cancer, I had to be her caretaker. Safe driving prevents the accident from being your fault. If an accident occurs and you did everything right then the responsibility is on the other person... at that point you can sue or demand reparation's for the damages. so yes you would…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:52 PM
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Heart attack: Healthy living Cancer: Healthy Living Car accident: Safe driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:46 PM
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Not sure why you want to lie to prove a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:45 PM
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I'm not, Vegetarian... It's an example of why it wouldn't matter if a cow got sick. As far as for the U.K and London goes... Doesn't matter we are comparing apples and oranges since it's 2 different countries. I disagree on society collapsing (Not that I think women should be removed from the work force) The point here is all the jobs you listed.... if no one was doing them.... the country could still function. Parent's would still cook for themselves... Parent's would teach their kids, People w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:11 PM
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Not all men who are on PPD participated on that thread... only those who were most passionate about it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 06:01 PM
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Men, Choose not to become teachers, due to being pushed out. You may choose to misinterpret the article... but that's on you. What do you mean by "women not doing any vet jobs" and providing a link where it's stated that "62.9% of all Veterinarians are women"? Also veterinaries do more than just take care of pets. Do you eat meat? Do you think cows don't get ill? Women not doing any vet jobs only affects PEOPLE who have pets. That's the full sentence. Why would I care if a cow gets ill If i'm a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:53 PM
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Nurses and pharmacists are only going to effect the men that actually go to the hospital.... and most men avoid going... only if dying. Women use the hospital services way more than men, it would effects them more.... since men rarely go unless needed. Men are willing to do any job, even in female dominated fields men are at least 10 - 30% where as women in male dominated fields such as trades (carpenter, electrcian etc) is less than 3%. Not many female garbage collectors..... I doubt people are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:54 PM
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This all depends on what your definition of friend is…. I suspect you are using a personal definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 03:49 AM
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The reason why the men get angry, is because of a few reasons: It feels unfair if he discovers it later, every sentient being has a concept of fairness and when it's disrupted it angers them. The equivalent would be a woman dating a guy and she pays for the dates until they have sex, then she finds out he paid for the other dates without sex. The men are comparing themselves to an ideal, and are upset they are not getting the "ideal's" results, which makes them know and feel lesser. Most men on …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 06:53 PM
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A follow up question then..... How did you know he was flirting with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 04:12 PM
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Depends on how the man enters the relationship with the woman. When I used to date, I would discuss sexuality with them to see if were a match ( it was a requirement for me due to my size, I’ve had girls nope out after seeing.) When they love you their sex drive is bottomless. When they don’t…. Might as well be in a relationship with a nun.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:37 PM
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Yes, if you don’t pay child support. Especially back support you will get jail timeAccording to the courts
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:35 AM
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hmmm, I asked 3 questions you answered none.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:50 PM
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did your mom and sister point out he was flirting with you? Did he have to point out he was flirting with you? And did he say he didn't flirt with you at all in the beginning when you were first chatting through the app?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:24 PM
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Doesn't disprove that they are not obligated to tell you. Also your boyfriend doesn't flirt with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:49 PM
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Not necessarily true, they aren't obligated to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:24 PM
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Because you can’t tell when someone is flirting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:09 PM
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I will never believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:00 PM
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That’s what I’m saying, how much you’re approached has nothing to do with your attractiveness. Men don't approach ugly women. We already established you can't tell when men are flirting with you. This doesn’t really happen to me. Doesn't really =/= Never. So you get approached.... in your eyes it's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:49 PM
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How do I prove it lol If you said you never had a boyfriend and never kissed a man, Then I could believe you, that would have demonstrated that you were too ugly for anyone to want to approach. Which would be a first, I've seen women with super deformities still get approached... Hell Honey BOOBOO found someone to hit on her and marry her. Dating apps baby. Without them I’d be screwed. Sometimes I’m scared he doesn’t like me,He said I’m very blunt and apparently I’m horrible at being subtle espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 02:25 PM
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I said Okay, because I didn't believe you and didn't want to bother continuing the conversation because I felt it was not going to make any positive progress for either of us. It's a common tactic used by people (more so men with talking with women) when they can sense a circular argument incoming. With social awareness you would be able to take the context of our conversation and realize I didn't believe you because you haven't done anything that proves that you never got hit on. Yet somehow yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:50 PM
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...... We don't, But I can tell you're on the spectrum.( not saying that as an insult)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:03 PM
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Oh man, tell me your secrets! How does one respect women??? All this time I’ve been pushing them down stairs to show them I like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:09 AM
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I tell the men who are down bad…. To vacation by themselves to a different state. And make all your cold approaches there where no one knows who you are. That way they overcome their fear of it getting back to people they know. Sometimes a change in location is all a guy needs. As for women who have been hurt, depends on what kind of woman she is. If she’s fit, and doesn’t display gold digger vibe/tendency…. I ask what she wants and what she’s willing to do to get it.(no not sexually.) I then as…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:58 AM
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No clue, after we broke up I stopped caring. I had other issues to deal with that were more pressing than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:30 AM
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It was at least 12 years ago back when I was in college. We were together for about a year before we broke up. Her mom had BPD as well, at the time of the break up I was devastated. But Afterwards people that worked with us started filling me in on what she was doing behind the scenes while were together. She constantly threatened other women for looking at me among other things, it was pretty nuts. Now after other traumatic relationships, I’m in a good spot now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:03 PM
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Yeah I was in a relationship with a BPD for too long due to that as well I can relate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:03 PM
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Sounds like you are just following Simps, and Wight knights
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:31 PM
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Depends on the situation: Desperate men will do anything for sex, even deal with a BPD. (as long as she's having sex with him he will not care) The men she dates only see women like her so for them that's the normal women (very common for inexperienced men). The men that date her don't have any other relationship or women to compare her too so they can't see the issue. They also don't have any female friends (they may have female acquaintances) but no one has their back and is telling them about…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:10 PM
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. I spend the next few minutes trying to determine if they are an interesting person. So yes.... Small Talk... if I am meeting during the day I will say "I want to take you out so we can get to know each other better. Here write your number and I will call you tomorrow to arrange a date". Then asking for their number..... Not why you wanted to say No.... when that's clearly what you are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:02 PM
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As long as your attractive with the approach, sure.... they'll talk with you. Just to be clear, when you approach all of these women.... assuming your a man.(if you are not a man then your post doesn't apply to men, because women mostly have their guard down when women approach) you are making small talk and asking for their number?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:23 PM
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Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:50 AM
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The date can be successful, even if you yourself aren’t having fun. You choose where you go for a date though. That’s why you choose a place you would go to by yourself so at least…..you’re having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:29 AM
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sure, you can make a joke here and there, but you are not known for being funny. most of your jokes probably are just in-jokes between your friends most likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:11 PM
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when people are hitting on you, they won't be that direct to ask to go on a date. They do small talk first to see if there is any interest, they may flirt a little to see if you flirt back. Chances are high that you didn't acknowledge when they were flirting with you, so you didn't think they were hitting on you. They would also ask if you want to grab a drink or something rather than asking directly for a date. You're telling me that you never had a boyfriend and you are a virgin, if no one has…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 07:10 PM
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When something is done well it looks effortless to the ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:55 PM
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I've been approached by more men than you then.... and I'm a straight man. That's why it's hard to believe, that and every other women I talk to about being hit on or approached has a story. The pretty ones and non-pretty ones... Especially since you lived in a city for 8 years. Frankly I just find it not believable if you are pretty that no man approached you or made small talk with you in any setting. Like..... Even AMISH women get hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:48 PM
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Therapy is great, The therapist are what's shoddy quality. finding a good therapist is what's really difficult, especially if you don't know what qualities to look for in a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:19 PM
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takes effort to be funny, people are born funny looking.... but not funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:15 PM
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......You didn't live in a small town or a city? I would consider a suburb a small town. yet... you never had to walk anywhere......and you lived in LA.... a city that's like a daily beauty pageant...where there are escorts all over the place... And NO MAN...EVER ...ASKED....for your number?.... No man ever approached you to make "small talk".... ever.... in LA? Either you are the daughter of a MOB boss, or you are leaving out some serious information..... If it was because you were pretty super…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:13 PM
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When people are attracted (relationship definition) to you, they are interested in you romantically/sexually. Charisma is Platonic likability as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:27 PM
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Just to be clear... If you are living in a small town where everyone knows everyone.... You have a different situation to everyone else in this sub who lives in a major city. In small towns local politics and reputations matter. If that is your situation, then it's very believable you weren't approached...... to a degree. The men in that town had to date someone...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:22 PM
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No, that's called Charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:08 PM
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I have asked the women in my life. They all have been approached both cold and from friend groups. That's the norm.... It's abnormal for a woman who has made it to at least 23 to never have been hit on... AT ALL. In fact the women here complain about being hit on since they were 13. Most women complain about how early they get approached. If you never did.... you may not be as hot as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:07 PM
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Examples aren't definitions. I never stated what was attractive for all people, I gave an example. If you just want to argue to be right, then this conversation is over. Being attractive is what makes people interested in the other person romantically/sexually. Without there is only being platonic, there is no counter argument to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:05 PM
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So no man has ever approached you and your friends at all huh.... Pretty woman get approached universally. Unless you only leave your house at night..... you are not telling the full truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:55 PM
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Doesn't matter if it's intentional or not, you are doing the same steps. Attraction is more than if "he's funny" it's the total package from how he walks to how he dress to how he sounds even down to genetics..... Hence why the first rule of dating is always "Be attracttive". Follwed by "Don't be Unattractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:54 PM
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Women want to brag about their boyfriends/husbands and they can't brag about how good they are at Videogames..... They can brag about his carpentry skills and etc.... So it's for a selfish reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:49 PM
1

nope all but the most ugly women experience this....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:41 PM
1

It's called being attractive.... Being attractive is "winning" someone over for a date. Since you are a reactive dater.... I can see why you wouldn't get it... after all you only choose who shows up.... who's.... attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:40 PM
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It’s a number game. Men can say the same thing about when they approach…. And it doesn’t work out well for them. Only thing to do is continue on. If you were single
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:45 PM
1

So, now that we have gotten rid of the fear of rape. Nothing is stopping you from approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:35 PM
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Except it’s what you can observe happen. Talk to some relationship therapist and divorce lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:33 PM
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Beta-Bux is a behavior that results from "a million cuts" Because you have to be alphaish to get the girl (unless she's a pure gold digger (rare)). Over time the man gets wore down to Beta-bux depending how hen-pecked he is/willing to be pecked. In the beginning of the marriage everything is fine. It's once both parties get comfortable and start getting lazy around each other is when things start to fall apart. When the guy starts to just agree and do what the wife tells him, just to avoid confl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 01:11 PM
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I dunno, forcing someone to have sex against their will… sounds a lot like it to me. If you say no and the guy persists on…. That’s a violation of rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:09 AM
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I know women of all types. Career Women, scientists, teachers, strippers, sugar babies, administrators to receptionist. I regularly have lunch with them. As far as sex on the table, it’s always a possibility but not a guarantee. But thats how every guy treats a date….. otherwise it’s called rape and you go to jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:56 PM
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I’m not asking why no one wants to date me. As I don’t have that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:45 PM
1

Wild is a negative context. Wild would be you asking him to pay your rent before he goes on a date with you. Also no I would not think were banging. Because I know how easy it is to mess that up. I’d play the night by ear
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:43 PM
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I like how the conversation changed from, who cares about ghosting, to…. Well who cares if people laugh at you for getting stood up… to…. Go for coffee dates so when you get ghosted it doesn’t feel bad. Also I didn’t bring my gf to a 5 star restaurant for our first date, didn’t need to we are both practical peoples.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:41 PM
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So I was correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:35 PM
1

You’ve been asked out by men who were interested. But if you did something wild they would have dropped you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:34 PM
1

Fastfood resturants don’t count… unless that’s a date to you. But I find it hard to believe your husband eats at 5star restaurants alone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:32 PM
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I’ll agree to disagree. Also no one is asking anyone to be put over another.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:29 PM
1

No one in public think anything odd about a lone female. People are always staring at lone men in restaurants… especially when they look dejected from getting ghosted. It’s an immature thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:27 PM
1

His post doesn’t mention sex drive either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:25 PM
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If you ask a guy on a date he’s not going to assume it’s casual sex. Unless you only date players, then yeah players will think that. You are assuming a lot about the guy. Clearly if he agrees to the date plan he’s into you. Which is what you want, he’s a guy that would try to work with you in the relationship. If he was turned off then you know he wasn’t interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:24 PM
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That’s why one of the most reposted topics here is why women don’t approach? Don’t think it’s cause they don’t like it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:15 PM
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Yep, reactive. Nothing is stopping you from asking as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:13 PM
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Then that’s your failing on vetting. Changing your mind on what-ifs, without talking or consulting the person is a crappy thing to do. You don’t even have to ghost, you could be an adult and say “Just not feeling it” Or “ hey sorry but I changed my mind” Those are infinitely better than being a jack-ass at a restaurant eating alone where all the other patrons can see who got ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:12 PM
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See you are a natural. So you don’t think about what you do…. But one question, where did you meet the girl you asked? Because that’s relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:52 PM
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That’s not what step 1 is. Step 1, said in another way is…”be attractive”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:50 PM
2

My point being that women will never understand or be empathetic to the struggle. Ghosting isn’t a big deal to women and men with options. To men with limited options it’s devastating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:32 PM
1

You pretty much proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:24 PM
2

When you have 10 dates lined up, and all 10 ghost you with no reasons given…. What are you to do? Thats why its a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:21 PM
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sure, but they complain about the same things....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:19 PM
2

okay, not sure what the issue was you had with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:19 PM
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You are misunderstanding the list. Your reply reads as such that you never had to win a woman over for a date. It reads as such you have never been stood up or ghosted. sounds like you were the one being asked,,,,,
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:18 PM
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If it makes sense to ghost people who are actually interested in who you.... then sure. You do realize that only leaves you with men who are only ever going to be meh about you, or see you as a secondary option. As long as your okay with that Ghost away.... Everyone is a stranger at one point. Also... A clingy guy doesn't tell you he's excited to meet you.... he just badgers you incessantly until you block him... but then again... you wouldn't have agreed to the date at step 1 if you thought tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:14 PM
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Just because it happens to you doesn't make it okay to do to others. What's wrong is that you put the guys hopes up, had him set aside HIS time for YOU.... just for you to not show up and have his "reservations" mean nothing to you. It's a reflection on you and your character. That's why guys have to plan for you to ghost....because women like you do it so often. that's why planning is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:05 PM
1

yup changing your mind is covered in step 5 for the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:59 PM
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you wouldn't need to get to step 5, if you said No at step 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:55 PM
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Men hate sluts for marriage because then they can't be sure the kid is theirs. Men love sluts for sex because men like sex and want to get it as easy as possible. Depending on the relationship a slut can be great if you are a swinger, poly or even a cuck. I didn't make any mention about having similar sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:52 PM
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The planning involves. getting her to accept the date. planning a date location that you both enjoy having good conversation starters for your FIRST date if the date is out longer than 2 days figuring out how to keep the interest for the FIRST DATE Having a back up plan incase she ghosts you before the date How to bring up who pays for the date (chances are it's on the guy since the female didn't have to ask for the date) How transportation is going to work (will you pick her up? will she drive?…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:27 PM
3

for marriage*
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:01 PM
4

sounds more like a henchman to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:58 PM
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I get it. I think you are simplifying the issue of these men though. You're surroundings growing up were conducive to you going out and talking to women and getting rejected and finding success. You had people in front of you asking out women, and you had friends who probably talked about hooking up with girls. I had a similar environment, My brother's advice to me to pick up girls was to just "Talk to them". Which was terrible advice... because I was talking to the girls... I just didn't know h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:41 PM
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so it would be correct to say, you learned through observation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:32 PM
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Sure.... while they're are currently dating. We all know that women aren't going to make the first move 90% of the time (cue in the one exception) getting her to agree to that first date is where the "work" comes in. also the man has to be charming enough on the first date to get her to actually enjoy the conversation. I have never had a single female that I dated ever... EVER plan a first date for me on where they wanted to go. After we started dating? sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:29 PM
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How did you learn that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:24 PM
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The issue with the average women is that unless they're lesbian they don't know what it's like to date themselves. it's one reason why guys can almost always get along/relate with a "butch" lesbian. The average woman is a reactive dater, so she only knows dating by "feeling" because she only went with "what felt right". They have no idea about all the planning that it takes and the work it takes to be a good date.... for them "it just happens lol" Due to that the average women will NEVER have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:20 PM
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Why are men more likely to want relationships? She asked only the women.... anyone see the irony? That's like asking an electrician why carpenters choose to be carpenters
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 08:00 PM
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100% agreed, They do it when they're losing the argument. I have about a minimum of 5 posts where the female user has tried to call me an Incel who can't get laid, because she didn't have a good counter argument. It's laughable because if you're someone who is successful, you see right through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:59 PM
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Yes and notice that those red-pilled men have kids and are married, where as before (and currently) they talk about why you shouldn't get married. Married Red-pill is a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:51 PM
1

Accurate statement, His GF does look like an average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:18 PM
1

I can't view videos from your facebook group if I wasn't invited. anyway the clip you are refencing is this one. notice that context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:27 PM
1

Yes the video you are refencing is the Incel video. where he was talking to a man who said that he wanted to have super models have sex with him while he did and offered nothing. It's in his men series videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:24 PM
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link me to the clip of him saying that stuff or stop. You'd be wasting both of our time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:22 PM
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What do you get out of lying? It's obvious you only watched out of context clips, since you STILL haven't shown any video of his that has him stating what your issue is. Do you just like arguing? do you just like playing devils advocate? Trust me, We all see through you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:17 PM
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right, so you can't site a specific video. Because in none of his video's did he ever say "I hate black men and women". Provide context of what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:02 PM
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The people that both subs attract and "create" are diametrically opposed to each other. Especially since FDS wants the man to hold out for sex for like 3 months and TRP men would be about getting laid within the first 3 dates, they filter each other out. Feminist actually are more attracted to Red pilled men though, that's the more common dating scenario I've observed more than anything. TRP men and feminst are both about casual sex (sexual freedom/liberation) and not really into marriage(tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:07 PM
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I think Hinge has tackled that problem fairly well since it matches people based on AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 08:45 PM
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Hah, just tell them what they want to hear and you'll have a client for life. Don't worry it'll only eat at your soul lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:56 PM
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Except it just proves you still didn’t reqd the response fully. I’ll break it down for you. You will never admit to being wrong. You said you refuse to watch no more than 30 minutes of a 2 hour broadcast. What discussion can be had with someone who doesn’t care about context? There is no intellectual discussion because we are starting with no base foundation to agree on. In this case it would be the average at best video. You said you can’t watch more than 20 minutes but…. What are you talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:04 PM
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Yes because calm rational people through out insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:52 PM
1

Man you are really mad huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:45 PM
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Lmao!!!!!! I never posted any stats lmao!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:42 PM
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Lmao what makes this so funny… is that since you didn’t read my response… you just keep proving me right
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:36 PM
1

Lol why you getting mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:28 PM
1

More word salad, are you copying and pasting responses?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:23 PM
1

Wow, you’re not even reading responses. I really would have wasted my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:15 PM
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I had typed a long response and had stats and figures, then I realized you don’t actually care. No matter what proof I provide you it will never be enough. You will never admit I was right about something even if I was. So I’ll end with this. I can tell you have NEVER watched a full broadcast from start to finish. Watch the full broadcast of “average at best” and see if you hold the same opinion. Ciao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 10:12 PM
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Oh yeah? And who was his target audience? Because you are incorrect about he being irrelevant. You also can’t prove that. I can prove how effective he was though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:45 PM
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I know you do. Doesn’t matter to me if you care or not. It’s going to show pretty clearly in your personal life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:07 PM
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I never said you were racist you rando. I said you may have a bias. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 03:04 PM
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So your mom isn't on any medication to prevent remission? other cancer survivors I know are who had breast cancer. You don't need to mention his race... everyone knows Kevin is black. Everyone knows that the common racial stereotype used on black men is that their are crack addicts. Dave Chappelle's joke on police brutality and the history of Cocaine and crack epidemic is more than enough proof of this. The FACT you said he died from crack/cocaine.... without any evidence to support that.... lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:45 PM
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Chemotherapy Compromises your immune system. The medicine that they give you effects your blood pressure. you're mom not showing or telling you of any issues she has does not mean she's not experiencing them Thank you for admitting that I was correct when I pointed out from your own source that they didn't know the cause of death. If you insist that he died from crack.... that's going to sound like you have a racial bias against black men if that is your first jump to say why they died. If you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:36 PM
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Read your own source... They are reporting from Black Revolt... Which is reporting based on a youtuber "Mealnie King" Who's stream I watched fully by the way.... However, his family or team are yet to publicly confirm the Georgia star's death and no statement has been uploaded to his social media platforms. Since you don't know anything about Kevin Samuels prior to this "I Know you never watched his videos" He would talk about his health issues and how he was a survivor of cancer.... The thing t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:23 PM
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The only thing that has been confirmed about his death is that he died from cardiac Arrest. Have you checked the sources of your information?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:11 PM
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Provide evidence of him being a crack head, Otherwise you are just jumping on the hate bandwagon with no context of who he actually is. This is showing me that you never watched his full content.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 02:03 PM
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Only problem is.... He was never a dating coach..... He was an image consultant. You never watched his broadcasts or shows, Possibly you only saw clips.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:37 PM
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I'm calling Cap, Which full video of his did you watch, and which one was he being racist?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:36 PM
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Overall opinion in the black community was positive, Single mothers and Narcissist's had an issue with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:35 PM
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The only women that are celebrating his death, are the women that he talked about on his shows. Hyenas. Anyone who has common sense and watched his shows from start to finish. Understands that this is a tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 01:31 PM
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Cool. But were talking about Ulterior Motives. Point is Ulterior motives by themselves are not a bad or a good thing. It's on the person. That should not have to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:50 PM
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It's still an ulterior motive. Also no one goes around talking about liking or loving surprises. That's not part of everyday conversation even with people you have bonds with. I have no idea if my brother likes surprise parties, But I'd throw him one if the mood struck me. Point is Ulterior motives by themselves are not a bad or a good thing. It's on the person. That shouldn't have to be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:44 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:25 PM
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Throwing someone a surprise party is an ulterior motive. According to what you wrote, I am to believe that surprise parties are the evilest thing ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:24 PM
1

How did you guys meet to become friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 06:19 PM
1

Define Creepy please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 04:11 PM
1

more like he's settling. The phrase is Men get who they can, While women Choose who shows up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 03:54 PM
1

The average man is struggling to get his first choice in looks for dating. He can get a date but she will most likely be over weight and a mismatch from his perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:54 PM
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They don't care (and aren't even planning for a future) they just want their thirst quenched. The phrase "Don't care had sex" comes to mind
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:04 PM
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When you are thirsty, the only thing you think about is water.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:02 PM
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I will never not be absolutely baffled that some of the men here are confused by the fact that attraction and compatibility are nuanced and that someone’s “preferences,” is their way of explaining who they’re attracted to + compatible with. Just look at the Steve Harvey show, OR Kendra G's show online.... Plenty of women disproving you there. Heck Go on TikTok and look at the female comments on any video where a man states his preferences or even on instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:37 PM
2

Your comment made it seem like you were single, is your relationship 100% 50/50 or is it a mix of traditional 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:22 PM
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The issue I find with women who don't want to diminish their quality of life, is that they are looking for a man on the same level as them.... However they do not want to share their finances with the man they are with. They might buy a present on holidays/birthdays but from the relationships I've observed even if the women is making similar money, she still expects the man to pay for everything. This goes for the trips and vacations and dates. the successful relationships That were egalitarian …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:17 PM
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If my life revolved around getting a partner.....and I had failed that...... I guess If by 50 I thought I'd be forever alone I would just do Cocaine and escorts until death came. You're 30 though, So at the very least wait until you hit 35 - 40 before you call it quits. It picks up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:12 PM
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That's the lie they tell men, any guy who has lived it knows that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:22 PM
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Well, yes Men have historically dated down. The boss and the secretary is a thing for a reason. It's what is causing the dating scene to be imbalanced. Certain women refuse to date a man who makes less, until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:29 PM
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Something you may not be aware of: Wealthy women marry for "political and network reasons". That is if they were born from old money. A gold digger is a women who only has a monetary interest in the man she's seeing. Every move she makes is about extracting resources and setting her up for a payday in the event of alimony or child support. Wealthy women act just like everyone else, They want someone who makes more than them.... Targeting the top 20% of men. The difference here is that they actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 05:22 PM
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That's the thing though, can't ever really know for sure, since what he sees as flirting, she might just see as a fun conversation without consenting to more. The problem is that the onus is almost exclusively placed on men to figure out what she means and to take things to the next step. Men are the ones expected to initiate and escalate, and the ones to be 'punished' if he reads the signs wrong. In an egalitarian society that is not fair. It's either she is flirting back or not, If he interpre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 04:55 PM
1

What happened to gimpgirl?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:50 AM
1

I take everything with a grain of salt. These are peoples experiences, so it’s a different perspective. It would be foolish to dismiss everything that doesn’t fit my world view. If someone say’s something I disagree with, I test it out or ask others around me what they think of said statement. Due to my work I meet all walks of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 10:40 AM
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Also they have been known to dox users for simply commenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:10 PM
1

Well, You haven't resorted to name calling and you haven't gotten increasingly aggressive and angry as we have responded to each other so I remain civil, I match the energy displayed to me. As for the topic, Yes it is a double standard sure.... It doesn't make it any less illegal and it doesn't mean there aren't men that actually do reject women. Note, I never said Flirting was consent to touch anyone, I said it's consent to acknowledge sexual compatibility If you replace everything you said and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 05:36 PM
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Close enough, It can be argued that they select for boundary pushing men. Since women mainly choose from those who approach them, and men understand that the whole interaction is on them at least the first month (setting up dates, Paying for dates, Getting the women interested in the man, then demonstrating sexual prowess) that selects for men who are willing to do/know to Pursue them, and excludes lazy men. Since not all women are the same, a big chunk of women like when a Guy pursues them even…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 03:16 PM
2

Yes the more people are exposed and "know of you" the more like minded people you'll attract. Even if I wanted to play devils advocate, I can't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 05:12 PM
1

That can be said about anyone who takes care of themselves though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:57 PM
1

Interesting, so you're saying that a woman at 20 has the same looks at 65? Because the wall just means their looks start to decline after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:05 PM
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Flirting is consent in the "I acknowledge that there is sexual attraction between us" and when both parties flirt with each other.....then that's a different discussion on how far that can go before it's sexual assault. You are right, The way I hear women talk about men it's always with the assumption that the consent is already given. It's why they think a man is gay if they don't want to have sex with them/turns them down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:01 PM
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The point is without flirting, nothing happens. Even though she approached you, without you signaling that you were interested…. You guys did not exchange numbers or do anything sexual…. Even though she approached you interested in you…. Without flirting there is no escalation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 10:35 AM
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And you had sex with her because you let her know you were interested? Or did you just be polite and keep things surface level and be on your way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 01:34 AM
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I described a man not sexually interested but too polite to shove her off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:58 PM
1

I forgot that females are the ruling class, please forgive me your highness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:22 PM
1

Sounds like assult
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 11:14 PM
1

Please give me an example of someone flirting…. And someone not flirting back…. And it leading to sex. Other than prostitution Because flirting back is consent, and acknowledging that the person is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 10:02 PM
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Plenty of men report turning down women, explicitly saying they have no sexual attraction towards her, and she responds by questioning his sexuality or demanding to know what's wrong with them. Turning down approaches is them, not flirting. To be clear My point, is that Without flirting on both sides there is no sexual interactions. Doesn't matter if the women approaches you, If you don't know how to signal back to her your sexual interest (Flirting) in her. There is no sex. If person (A) wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:51 PM
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In order for the woman to straddle the guy, she has to signal that she is attracted to him (flirt) the guy has to understand and accept her advances(Flirt back). If she just straddles the guy, and is just sitting there and he just continues on like nothing is happening (not flirting) she will think he's not attracted, because he hasn't acknowledged the situation. If she Grabs his dick and he just stands there looking at her awkwardly(no flirting) she will think he's disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:26 PM
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Flirting is when you signal that you have sexual interest in the other party. If a woman approaches a man and she flirts with him and he doesn't flirt back, she will interpret his actions as having no sexual attraction towards her
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:23 PM
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When you are commenting on who's getting Action... it's relevant. Just because you see women throwing themselves at the guy doesn't mean it's going anywhere. Since you don't pursue men and since you don't know or even care about all that it takes to attract and keep a woman's interest.... I can see why you would have a skewed perception. Without flirting nothing is happening. The girl wouldn't even know he's sexually into her if he didn't flirt back with the woman flirting with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:21 PM
2

That explains why you don't understand why flirting is required
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:14 PM
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Well one day when you start dating and interacting with women you'll see why the hot men get the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 08:11 PM
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Sure for the approach, But if you're hot and don't know what to say or "Flirt", then it doesn't matter how many women approach you. The moment that person opens their mouth they ruined their chances, The girl could say "I want something Hard right now" The hot guy who doesn't know how to flirt would just tell her to drink whisky. A man who knows how to flirt would go along with the innuendo or realize that she's hitting on him and escalate it further. A man who doesn't know how to flirt doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:25 PM
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You don't think knowing how to flirt is required?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:16 PM
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then I'd add being hot in addition to knowing how to flirt, gets you action.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 06:08 PM
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The average man isn't hot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:50 PM
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I think a "Natural" Is just someone who is able to learn from other peoples success/failures and they keep their own failures quiet while everyone only focuses on their success. A natural also usually (but not always) has a role model who they are basing their actions on. (Snoop dog had a pimp for a role model, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:11 PM
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A Betabux relationship is when the Woman is more masculine than the man, and starts dominating the relationship, whenever Beta is being discussed it's always that dynamic. It can be any type of relationship, it can start anyway but once the man starts to become passive or less dominate in the relationship and the women feels she needs to "Pick up the slack" that's when the loss of attractions begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 02:00 PM
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How many men? None. But I talk to a lot of women who have dated them, I also talk to men that are successful dating and not successful dating. These are people in age from 20- 40. So My age range for the women I'm talking to are in Current dating ages. Since you are a Married women, I wouldn't expect you to keep up with how current dating is. In the old days maybe considerate guys by your definition approached. Not today...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 01:26 PM
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Considerate guys think too much about how they will discomfort the women to make a move. They consider the females potential discomfort as greater than their “urge” to get to know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 09:38 AM
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Aggressively confident men make it known. men who are too considerate won’t make a move unless they know they will succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:32 PM
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See what confuses me about this comment is, you are assuming I think FDS is giving credible advice that works. I never stated that. The point of my comment that everyone else seems to understand but you, is just the demographics of FDS and what type of people it attracts. You keep thinking in absolutes, where I’m talking shades of grey. People who are open to self improvement have the mentality of being open minded. There is no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 10:01 PM
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Still attracts them, because the women themselves want a different result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:54 PM
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Umm no. It was not
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:53 PM
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I see the issue. I didn’t say all women were open minded. I’m saying it attracts open minded women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:52 PM
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Sure and there are posts and comments that arent. If you have been observing that sub since its inception you would know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:51 PM
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I didn’t recall saying all women. I said women with an open mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:50 PM
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That’s your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:47 PM
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No, my point was very clear from the start. It was simply women who wanted a change of results went to fds. You could not refute that point so you changed topics to the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:47 PM
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So you are talking about the sub. Sure. People do many things for different reasons. When I take a shit in the bathroom, it’s because I have to go. Do others use the bathroom only to shit? No. But that’s the primary reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:45 PM
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Incorrect, I brought up the people of the sub. YOU brought up the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:40 PM
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See you changed the goal posts. In one comment your talking about FDS. And another you keep saying how its shit advice, when I never talked about their advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:40 PM
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I agree you did flipflop. I don’t know why admitting that people who want a change in their results triggers you. But it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:38 PM
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I agree you did flipflop. I don’t know why admitting that people who want a change in their results triggers you. But it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:38 PM
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Look at your comments. YOU keep bringing it to FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:37 PM
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They go to learn how to get a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:36 PM
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Because you keep making it about fds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:35 PM
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Easy. The subs point is to get a high value man. The women are there to learn how to get a high value man.(side bar) They are there because they didn’t have success with previous methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:34 PM
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There is plenty, what does the FDS side bar say?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:27 PM
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prove they don't have an open mind
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:26 PM
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incorrect read my response again, I was talking about the women that would go to FDS... Not FDS. You assumed that all attractive women have no problems. Since you believe that, prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:25 PM
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That's your opinion, you can not prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:22 PM
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Yes.... THE WOMEN.....are people who want to take charge of their life and get the results they want.... I am speaking on the women who visit.... not the sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:19 PM
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Yes the WOMEN that visit the sub have an open mind..... I didn't say that the sub is the best place for information. I was talking about the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:18 PM
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Sure. The question I was answering is why attractive women need help. Nothing in my answers referenced that they had to get it from FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:16 PM
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My point was that they are open to change and self improvement. Not that FDS will get them there, To get to the point of joining FDS. The women... AT some point had to think..... "I'm not getting the results I want, How do I do that" That's open mindedness. You can not assume all the women of FDS are belligerent without evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:15 PM
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They quit but there are still Matchmakers there. Please quote where I said FDS is about Self improvement, you keep trying to counter a point I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:06 PM
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No. FDS is all sorts of women from all walks of life, They don't think there is anything wrong with being a OF model. They probably think their Ideal man would want their to support them doing it, rather than being a house wife. Also you are right, a High value man wouldn't bother with Onlyfans, he'd just get an actual escort. Only fans is like going to and paying to enter a digital strip club..... why? as a man you KNOW that content has already been uploaded to another site....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 09:00 PM
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I did not say that FDS would lead to self improvement... I said it would lead to getting the results they wanted or not. The women who go to FDS, at the very least are open to improvement or change. They had to self examine to get to that point of joining that Sub-reddit. As for the ACTUAL advice..... That's a different beast. I don't really think any guy should be worried about the women on FDS their actions weed out the type of man they want. No High value man.... is going to take you out for …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:54 PM
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In order for that to be true Attractive women have to.... Know they are attractive have the social skills to capitalize on being attractive have a pleasant personality that isn't abrasive There are plenty of attractive Career Women who are single and don't know why, they need help. If that was not the case high-end matchmakers would not be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 08:47 PM
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make no mistake the loudest voices on FDS definitely shows contempt for the very men they claim to want to date. Unless all of the members from FDS has shown us their therapy history(if they even went to therapy, doubt it) and uploaded a face pic, we can't say for sure what their demographic is. (I have my own theory as well) Also you may not realize this but.......There are ALWAYS more lurkers than posters and commenters. The lurkers don't post(duh) but they absorb information, they can be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:09 PM
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The only thing you can say for certain with the overlap is that these are women who are self aware enough to know they need to change.... and these are women who are taking charge of their life. Much like TRP men who first find TRP, it's usually because they don't have any guidance elsewhere. Same for these women, After they try out FDS they will either get the results they wanted or they will find solutions else where, as long as they can keep an open mind and not be blinded by bitterness. (I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 06:05 PM
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FDS takes all types, saying that ALL FDS are all fat unattractive women is a strawman that can't be proven. The women that even Go to FDS show at the very least that they want to improve themselves and get better results. So they can be women who are attractive aesthetically......but their personalities and their disregard and contempt they have for the emotions, needs and wants of the men they want to date..... is what makes them truly ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 04:52 PM
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A wealthy man who shows everyone how much money he makes just becomes a target. Especially to anyone in the FDS crowd, The people you attract with wealth aren't going to see you...for...you. I think the stealth wealth crowd do it because they are looking for love. They want to be valued for more than their money, just as women want to be valued for more than their looks. If you never been victim to a gold digger I can see why you would think stealth wealth is a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/22 01:44 PM
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As crazy as that sounds, it might work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:23 PM
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You're right, and it's a lesson they would have learned quickly if they took the first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:24 PM
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you will find that most women have a low level of contempt for men and automatically distrust you, on the basis of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:36 PM
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The issue you will run into is that women won't trust you at your word, and they also have a FLOODED inbox. You have to make it worth their while to want a practice date with you when they can get a real date or free meal without any work or responsibility. Make no mistake a practice date is work, even if you got them to agree to meet with you.... You would be calibrating your dating to what works for that particular women. It would be far easier if you just hired a dating coach... That person i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:35 PM
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The one's who graduate out, will VERY RARELY make a post about it. They just stop posting and another person who's angry takes their place. Only the Endorsed contributors will constantly post or be active on TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:17 PM
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If they never leave the anger phase they are not TRP, at that point they are black pilled. It is possible that some people stay in the anger phase for a long time depending on how big of a shock it was to them. Depending on the person and how much work they need to do on themselves as well as the culture they grew up in (this is a Global website) they can be in it from 2 weeks to 2 years. The only way to get out of the anger phase is to gain some relationship Confidence. In my opinion when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:09 PM
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When you are interacting with members who are in the "Anger Phase" You are interacting with the most emotionally charged members of the group. People will not say or be rational when they are emotional. These are men who were/believed they were lied too by various people/strangers/family/media. To give an analogy, you wouldn't take anything a pregnant woman says seriously while she is in the middle of giving birth. (It's an analogy, Do not be Obtuse) Why wouldn't you? Because she's emotionally c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:37 PM
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It could also be that they just won’t talk to you about it. If you seem or even give the perception of being judgy people might not disclose that to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:02 PM
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The only people that would care would be friends/Family.... They would be the ones to Pressure you to leave your non-match, or tell you to be grateful for being lucky Strangers wouldn't care though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:41 PM
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No, Men will never have a balance shift back in their favor..... It also won't stay heavily in women's favor either. If I were to give a percentage I think it will shift 53/47 in favor of women. Remember that NO CULTURE has had the internet or access to fast information & communication as we did starting in the 20th Century. Where as these dating differences may spell doom for past civilizations, I think we are going to evolve past our current problems to be more fair and nuanced. These issues a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 07:54 PM
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Whenever you ask if woman approach they never mean or say they walk right up and start a conversation. It’s always: “I was in his presence” or “ I made eye contact” or “I played with my hair while he was around” or “I laughed at all his jokes!” And expect men to think that is an approach. Being approachable is cool…. But it’s not initiating first contact with words. Only other women who I know who do approach tend to be lesbians, high status career or masculine women. ( not saying you are any of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 05:12 PM
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You are a rare person to do so. Women approaching is almost never seen, unless you’re a top 15% man. I hope you find what you seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:59 PM
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So you approach men, and start conversations with ones your interested in? Or do you hope the ones you like start talking to you and then you respond? The first one would be considered seduction. The second would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:48 AM
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You are projecting your own issues and biases. Nothing in my post referenced self control, or acting like animals. If thats how you act when trying to have sex that’s on you. sexually successful means being able to have sex with someone who mutually wants to have sex with you. It’s on the maslow heirarchy of needs There are no other implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:43 AM
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Are you asking about “TRP men” or regular guys who are red pill? If it’s the first, they’ll settle down if they want children. If it’s the second, they’ll settle down if they want children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:19 AM
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Sounds like you’ll be placing a huge emotional burden on your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:26 PM
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Slow down! he has to leave some pussy for the rest of us
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:49 PM
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she Doesn't. She's never had to seduce anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:43 PM
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The guys here claiming to not be sexually successful are most likely having sex, it's just not at a rate they would like. Alternatively they are upset that they can only get sex in a relationship and are not be able to get casual sex or acquire a FWB. You would have to define low motivation in this case. If the men are married and unhappy... That's "Fine" because they still are supporting their family and still involved with society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:39 PM
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Being able to have sex, makes you sexually successful. Married men display base level skills to attract a partner who wants to at least pretend to enjoy sex with them. People who would be sexually Unsuccessful are not having sex, or they are only able to Luck their way into sex once a year. Those are the people who have resentment towards society. Due to that it's a vicious circle that keeps them unattractive and bitter, not their fault though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 07:19 PM
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This is how my current relationship works, it's been great. Especially considering that most relationships break up over money/finances, it takes a burden off the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:27 PM
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Look at what you wrote... Married men.... MARRIED MEN, yes MARRIED MEN contribute to society, they are sexually successful, and they have to provide for their families so they have a reason to contribute. That's why Soccer coaches tend to be... Dads, same for Scout Leaders and the like. This Conversation is talking about Sexually unsuccessful men. Sexually Unsuccessful Men AREN'T MARRIED, and don't have a reason to contribute beyond their own comfort. Also THE world has changed in 50 years, For …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:00 PM
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Not that I needed to provide a source, because it's simply logic... that when someone isn't motivated to do something they dont..... But I can tell you want other people to say the same thing as me so here. The articles talk about the factors leading up to men checking out of society. After reading these articles and using Critical Thinking skills about the Common factor between ALL OF THEM. It's very clear that the divide is growing and that being sexually successful is linked to the cause of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 04:55 PM
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When you aren’t sexually successful, you have little to no motivation to contribute to society. That means you have no ambition to move up the economic ladder. Why would you other than to make yourself comfortable. Why contribute when it doesn’t benefit you to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:17 PM
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You'll get one faster without a wife and kid than with one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:22 PM
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If you're not in the top 10 or 20% you would be an Average value male... Low value males would be bottom 10% as they contribute nothing to society (homeless, addicted and useless, no job or plans on getting one) where High value men and average value men do contribute to society. The current issue is that the amount of Low Value men is increasing because men who are sexually unsuccessful are finding little reason to want to involve themselves in their community and society at large. Low Value me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:18 PM
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Are all men on Ask men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:09 PM
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Trying to be sexually successful and failing, with no one to offer actionable advice or criticisms. When you have no help you have to seek it out from any source.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:51 PM
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