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You can't change your dad. You just fucking can't. Change your own feelings and expectations. Why the hell should she "change her feelings"? She may stop eating her heart out and try to focus on positive things but she shouldn't delude herself that it's OK for her dad to continue this lifestyle. You might be right that he is a lost cause but until all ways of saving him are explored, she shouldn't give up. People can be saved from drug addiction, depression, bad habits or anything else that ruin…
/r/askTRP21/01/18 01:08 AM
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I suppose many people are happy as singles but they are still in minority. I wish you well.
/r/MensRights14/01/18 01:00 PM
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I suppose people usually abstain from murdering one another for other reasons than just facing a harsh punishment. :) So no, I wouldn't give up on men totally just because they could get away with killing me or would receive a lenient sentence. What kind of thinking is that anyway, huh? Men and women need each other. Few people find happiness living in solitude.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 06:13 PM
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Thanks for proving my point.
/r/MensRights13/01/18 06:03 PM
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Look, I understand that divorce laws in Anglo-Saxon countries suck for men, but for God's sake, what does it have to do with this occurrence???
/r/MensRights12/01/18 12:12 AM
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Changing the topic from a supposed mercy killing to the unfair divorce law just to bash (British) women.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 11:12 PM
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You should get lots of upvotes for the immense mental gymnastics you performed here.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 01:46 PM
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I am not sure if crime committed in affection can be called murder. But we would have to ask a lawyer.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 11:35 PM
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The commenter wrote: British men, never get married because your wife can get away with killing you when you're old and sick just because she feels bad. Extrapolating one extraordinary event to all potential marriages is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 11:33 PM
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I'm speaking for myself. As always. I don't belong to any group nor do I support any ideology.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 09:54 PM
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She didn't beat him up, she smothered him with a cushion. (I don't know if "smother" is the right verb, English is my second language.) I am not a lawyer but I believe murder must be committed with premeditation.
/r/MensRights10/01/18 09:49 PM
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Is this what this sub has become? Well then...
/r/MensRights10/01/18 08:03 AM
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I honestly don't know how a man would be treated in such a situation. The thing is, that woman was left alone with a sex offender, people abandoned them. And you speak so lightly, even condescendingly about her feelings, as if they were equal to childish whims. I am not trying to absolve her from what she did, but calling an impulsive act of killing murder softens the gravity of real murders, which are crimes committed with cold blood. Are you suggesting she planned it? And that most British wom…
/r/MensRights10/01/18 08:02 AM
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I thought murder is killing with premeditation. It looks like she was really overwhelmed with negative feelings. And we all know that feelings are what drives us, don't we?
/r/MensRights10/01/18 07:55 AM
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Thanks, Bot. I used to admire men... Then I came across /r/theredpill and /r/MGTOW and I was bewildered by what I read. And now I see this place is following in their "brothers"'s footsteps.
/r/MensRights09/01/18 11:59 PM
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It's sad to see that this sub became one of many "safe spaces" where you can release your negative emotions without being held accountable for the actual message you send. Is this new /r/MGTOW? I know this thread is full of stories of vicious women getting a so-called pussy pass but maybe it's time for some of you to read such articles without extreme bias against the opposite sex. I am not saying she is guilty or innocent but I would at least try to put myself in the shoes of a long-term and on…
/r/MensRights09/01/18 11:52 PM
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I have a notion that Tesla was somewhat emotionally withdrawn and prone to seclusion. Some people are academically successful, but their private lives lack happiness and fulfillment.
/r/MensRights16/12/17 08:02 PM
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Sorry, I thought one can express one's doubts about it. I have read numerous times about poor working couples raising children, hence my doubts.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 03:28 AM
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I have read numerous times about people working minimum wage jobs and still living a very modest life. Even though most of them were single/teen parents, married couples were also mentioned. I read those stories on Reddit and Quora, so I'm not sure how many of these people were American. Still, these supposedly ideal steps for bootstrapping oneself from poverty might be more correlation rather than causation.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 03:19 AM
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So far no study proves it's causation rather than correlation. Being aware of facts is one thing; being able to interpret them correctly is an entirely different thing.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 03:12 AM
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I understood the literal meaning of your comment. But was it in any way offensive?
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 02:41 AM
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I did what I was asked for.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 02:40 AM
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Done. How come was it considered improper?
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 02:34 AM
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"If you follow the sequence: graduate HS, work, marry, have children you have a 97% likelihood that you will not be poor by the time you enter your 30s." So all these married couples who work 2-3 jobs to support their families fall into that 3 % of American population? Sorry, hard to believe.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 12:58 AM
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Sorry, it's still mostly correlation than causation. Marriage doesn't make a difference. Quality of parenting does. And that's one factor which is NOT taken into account in stats about marriage, cohabitation or single parenting.
/r/RedPillWomen11/12/17 12:54 AM
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Logic can't be applied to such personal choices. People choose what they FEEL is right. Most take up much bigger risks, sometimes every day, than eating a potentially poisonous fish.
/r/askTRP01/12/17 04:50 PM
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I associate goodness with supporting good people and good causes and fighting against bad ones. What if the society considers some behaviour appropriate and you find it bad? Then the society becomes your opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 07:39 PM
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Not true. There is no consensus among people on what is good and what is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 06:07 PM
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I'm afraid I fail to comprehend your message.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:59 PM
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I wanted to explain why I think that using expressions "good for society" and "good" interchangeably is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 12:52 PM
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You know, I never cared about what is good for the society. I cared and still care about concrete values. I follow my own conscience. And when I was looking for a man, I wanted to find someone whose views on morality we compatible with mine. Being a useful cog is not the same as being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 11:54 AM
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You mean, females are attracted to "bad boys"? :) That might be true for some of them, or maybe for most while they ovulate, but only bitterly immature ones would choose a "bad boy" consciously for a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 11:09 AM
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In my experience men are more driven by their emotions and women think more in terms of rationality. Many say it's women who are driven by emotions, while men are the rational and logical ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 05:48 PM
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It's pretty much useless for anyone who thinks for themselves. Although I do enjoy some articles on ROK.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:20 AM
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Just because you think you are such a cool badass, doesn't mean it's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:51 AM
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I'm honored.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 12:24 PM
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Bashing slutty and entitled women and at the same time sleeping around and caring mostly about their social status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 10:33 AM
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So the sub is only for men who moan how much they are disappointed with women, and how much they wish they could get laid with one of them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:42 AM
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I only said that they aren't better themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:41 AM
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I'm shaming Red Pillers, because they constantly whine about women's failings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:34 AM
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I cared enough to write about hypocrisy. I don't have a mission here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:32 AM
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I'm far from being perfect. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:30 AM
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It's not about me, believe me. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:30 AM
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I guess most ideologies start with promoting goodness and wisdom. But they soon get corrupted and become a tool of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:23 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:17 AM
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Our feelings always mattered more than other things. Feelings, (moral) convictions, goals. Just because nowadays we are more individualistic than in the good old days (though not to the extent of being truly wise and devoid of conformism), doesn't mean we were less about our feelings then. How can this even be checked?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 09:03 AM
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Beauty and people skills take a lot of effort skill and work too. The post is not about femininity but about values which I consider worthy of instilling. This doesn't logically follow or mean anything. I thought you suggested that women can't think logically and independently. I noticed it's the same with men. When you are preoccupied with ideas (like masculinity, femininity), you tend to forget the logic. [...] they can simply look at what their feelings say is right or wrong and that guide in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 08:50 AM
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They don't have to. But maybe they should?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:20 PM
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Value of work and study is masculine. True friendship and love is masculine too. Critical thinking and moral code, again masculine. Women can work, study, be good friends and partners, have their own opinions and follow their own conscience. Feminine women don't need to work or study. How does it help them get a man? When their beauty with some other feminine development will be more than sufficient? Just because you think femininity = laziness and ignorance, doesn't mean it's true. Critical thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:20 PM
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The theory is yet another ideology who I don't care about. The post is about men who complain about women's ignorance, sluttiness and entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:00 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:35 PM
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It's their choice to be corrupted. Yours to let them rot in ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:28 PM
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if more men had some damn self respect you wouldn't see nearly as many entitled bitches. I couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:23 PM
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Who says I hate them? I just find them annoying and childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:21 PM
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I'll correct it. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:20 PM
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English is my second language. Linguistic advice is appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:15 PM
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Fine with me, but why do Red Pillers whine so much about today's women's corruption?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:14 PM
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You're wanting women to be masculinized in the ways you just listed. Why masculinized? Friendship, love, critical thinking and their own moral code - that's all attainable for women. And then why is it men's responsibility to teach women that are not their family? Because they bitch about women being such and such. You spit out a bunch of feelings that insults an entire group of people as if they're all the same. Feelings? Yes. More like - judgments. And it's Red Pillers who usually say AWALT. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 05:05 PM
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You mean, I should have written "conformist"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:41 PM
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You have my permission to read a book without pictures.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 04:14 PM
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Of course sexes differ. Just like people differ. And that's awesome.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 04:13 PM
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You have just as much knowledge about women in general, as about me in particular.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 04:11 PM
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Ride the wave and hope that we can pass on our teaching to the generation following the millenials. You'll pass on corruption and infantility, that's what you'll do. Wait a minute! What generation? Are you actually going to settle down with one of the females you loathe so much?
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 04:08 PM
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Respectable? You want to be respected for picking up girls you actually despise and sticking your dick into their vaginas? Let me congratulate you on your priorities.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 04:02 PM
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All you need to do is ask Red Pillers. :)
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 03:58 PM
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I started reading about teenage motherhood in my country. But it's not a big deal here and there isn't much info on the subject. So I switched to American culture, as I noticed that both single and teen motherhood are not only extremely common here, but also stir up lots of negative emotions. Since then I read many stories and asked multiple questions in order to get better understanding of these issues.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 02:11 PM
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As a person specifically interested in single motherood, I think that even though most single (unwed) mothers aren't bad, then the opposite may be true: many bad (spoiled, promiscuous, irresponsible) women become single mothers.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 01:15 PM
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Both you and you step-sister are spoiled brats who don't deserve to find a good lifetime partner. You both slept around and treat the opposite sex like shit. It seems like Red Pill guys and MGTOWs should simply die out.
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 01:13 PM
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I don't think there is one proper cultural version of masculinity (or femininity). And frankly, I don't give a shit about culture. Cultures are born, they thrive, prosper, but at some point they start to wither and eventually they die.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 07:03 PM
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Women are attracted to many things. Not necessarily wise ones.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 01:57 PM
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From a woman: Masculinity is both a natural (innate) and cultural thing. The former can be changed, but at a very slow pace; it takes centuries if not millenia (am I writing this correctly?) to change human nature. The latter can be changed quite easily, since cultures are moldable and temporary. Is masculinity a stereotype then or a real phenomenon? I suppose it's both.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/17 12:55 PM
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What studies prove that a single mother can't raise a child well? Just because it's harder doesn't mean it's impossible.
/r/MensRights03/09/17 12:01 PM
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I think it's more about a single mother's personality. There is almost no preselection in single motherhood. On the other hand, not every man can be a single dad. Of course I could agree that it's partly causation: a single mother being overwhelmed with struggles and releasing her frustration on children.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 08:55 PM
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Promiscuity is hardly a recipe for happiness. But even one intercourse can lead to an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 08:12 PM
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Apparently you don't undertand what causation is. Causation would mean that the lack of a father is the main reason for children going wild. You implied it's poor parenting skills. So it's correlation. I agree that shitty women often become single mothers. But it doesn't mean most single (unwed) mothers are shitty.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 08:08 PM
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Who is going to hold them "accountable" - and for what? Should we persecute unwed mothers? We've already had that.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 07:46 PM
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If you don't agree with someone's reproductive choices, you should seek a reasonable solution. I gave you one.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 06:49 PM
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Wouldn't it be more efficient to sterilize bad boys? For instance: you abandoned at least two kids - you are going to be neutered. That would solve the problem. If you are not OK with it, I suggest you stop judging women.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 06:32 PM
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I think it would be absolutely wonderful if all children were raised by two loving biological parents. But it's not always the case. We should do the best with what we have. And I seriously wonder what should be done with "bad boys"...
/r/MensRights01/09/17 06:15 PM
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Yeah, sure. Because on average single mothers' children do worse, right? And of course it must be causation, not correlation? Because if it's causation, then widows should be shamed as well. After all, if a pregnant woman loses husband, she can abort or adopt her child out. Like I said many times, MOST children raised by single mothers won't end up in jail or run away from home. But even if it was the case, I wonder why one mother should be blamed for her children's misdeeds and the other one (m…
/r/MensRights01/09/17 06:12 PM
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Exhibit A: woman fucks "bad boy" drug dealer, he bails, she's stuck with a kid. That's her fault. She could have chosen the "nice guy" working hard who's a little less sexy but is a decent person. Exhibit B: woman's husband dies in a car accident. In the latter case the woman is indeed a "hero", and deserves society's support. Single mothers are neither heroes nor villains. And as for mating with "bad boys" - well, you just suggested that some men aren't meant to be fathers. So shouldn't they be…
/r/MensRights01/09/17 05:36 PM
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What does it matter why they are single? I thought your main concern is giving boys male role models.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 04:49 PM
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Are males being discouraged from becoming teachers?
/r/MensRights01/09/17 04:15 PM
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Who is to tell what is good and what is wrong? If you are for shaming single mothers, then I wouldn't trust your judgment.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 04:12 PM
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At the very least I think the state should mandate "big brother" type programs in these situations. What about male children raised by one female relative (mother, grandmother, sister, aunt)? Or in a predominantly female environment? I guess what I'm saying here is that this issue is much more complicated than either side is acknowledging. Lots of single women (usually widows) raised boys successfully. But these boys had other male role models. Masculinity was embraced, not shunned. Nowadays the…
/r/MensRights01/09/17 04:10 PM
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So you want to crush individuals who dared to reproduce outside of holy matrimonial union? Sorry, we already had that. No sane person would like to go back to these times.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 02:36 PM
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Personally I don't think having children with a sperm donor is OK. You are deliberately making a fatherless child. But when it comes to "natural" fatherlessness (or motherlessness), I think we can't help it. The alternative would be shaming single mothers (fathers) and making their and their children's lives harder. Of course in case of divorced parents, there must be a serious reason for potential parental alienation.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 12:34 PM
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Fatherlessness may affect children but doesn't have to. It all depends on said child's personality and potential male role models who could fill the "void". There are happy and well-adjusted fatherless (or motherless, sure) children and unhappy ones. Much depends on what is perceived as a norm.
/r/MensRights01/09/17 12:20 PM
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Ha ha, I couldn't agree more. How likely is it that a 40-45-year-old woman finds a suitable partner, who would meet the standards which men who fawned over her during her twenties couldn't?
/r/MensRights22/08/17 08:29 PM
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I think it's different for a man to marry down than it is for a woman.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:40 AM
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Believe me, we argued about money multiple times. He often behaved irresponsibly. And so did I, although not as much as him. I suppose he was never taught to be careful with it. But I would never leave him in times of need. Neither he would leave me (I'm sure).
/r/MensRights19/08/17 09:06 AM
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Because... AWALT? Well, even if we are subconsciously oriented towards best providers possible, we are not total slaves to our instincts.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 01:56 AM
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The article is about freezing eggs. So I assumed we are talking about ladies who wait until at least 40.
/r/MensRights19/08/17 01:10 AM
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When I was looking for a partner, wealth and social position were of no meaning to me. Maybe if I were poor, I would feel the need to secure my future, who knows? But being me, I chose a good, intelligent man, who did finish university, but by no means was - or is - rich. Neither am I, actually, although we aren't dirt poor either. Age is just a number, but there are patterns. Men prefer younger, more sexually attractive women. A 40-year-old successful woman could possibly find an equally or eve…
/r/MensRights19/08/17 12:38 AM
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To me a man doesn't have to be richer or better educated than I am. Although higher education is an asset, I didn't choose my (long-term) partner on the grounds of him having a degree. So not all women decide to "marry up". :) Those who do, should rather look for suitable men in their prime time, that is - before they reach 30. Afterwards their chances of finding a well-off and successful man who would be seriously interested in fertilizing them AND raising the child together are slim.
/r/MensRights18/08/17 06:20 PM
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I skimmed through the text. It's really baffling that men report rape as often as women do. But to me rape is connected with physical violence.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 09:31 PM
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The CDC also reports that men account for over a third of those experiencing another form of sexual violence—“sexual coercion.” That was defined as being pressured into sexual activity by psychological means: lies or false promises, threats to end a relationship or spread negative gossip, or “making repeated requests” for sex and expressing unhappiness at being turned down. It looks like we need to coin a clear definition of rape.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 08:48 PM
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And I'd like to have solid data on the subject.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 08:16 PM
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I presume Coulter was being deliberately provocative there to get publicity for her points - and more importantly, for her boo So she's striving to make a living, huh? Tough luck if her books sell poorly. However, the wider point - that by and large - exceptions can always be found of course - but by and large she is right to say that children from two-parent families are generally likely to do better on a range of measures than children from single parent families. Yeah, after lumping all singl…
/r/MensRights17/08/17 08:15 PM
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And they use the same kind of arguments as A. C.: STAAAATS! :)
/r/MensRights17/08/17 07:38 PM
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Aren't the poor in every place in the world more likely to breed?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 07:06 PM
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What is it flawed? "More" doesn't mean "most".
/r/MensRights17/08/17 06:41 PM
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What does mean "adequately" to you? What are your standards?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 06:33 PM
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EDIT For completeness, here's a link to child suicide rates among single parent households: http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20030123/absent-parent-doubles-child-suicide-risk#1 No concrete numbers.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 06:32 PM
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OK, so you think women rape men as often as men rape women?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 05:51 PM
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Women are weaker. Can they assault men as often as men assault them?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 05:39 PM
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No stats say that most children raised by single mothers fail - in one way or the other. You said that children should stay with their (disadvantaged) single mothers because struggles make us stronger. Is that the only reason why they should stay with them?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 04:43 PM
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Which renders any conclusions you might draw from the data set suspect, if not entirely invalid. My source says: "Of course, most children in single-parent families will not experience these negative outcomes." / "This being said, most children not living with married, biological parents grow up without serious problems." Of course I agree that it is quite impossible to check how many of these children had constant positive male role models in their lives. Does that mean I think these parents sh…
/r/MensRights17/08/17 04:31 PM
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Can't watch the video at the moment, but is the gist of the message that single moms should give up their children for adoption? Yes. Even if the stats were accurate ( I have reason to believe otherwise ), it says nothing about the overwhelming majority of men. According to statistics MOST children raised by single moms will be fine. (Exception: poverty.) http://www.clasp.org/resources-and-publications/states/0086.pdf To put it another way, it seems we can't go a day without another article abou…
/r/MensRights17/08/17 03:59 PM
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Calling me names for pointing out how ridiculous your ideas are doesn't make me an idiot.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:23 AM
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You wrote in another thread single mothers do not have enough time for their children. So right now you want to subsidize those family models which are more advantaged than single moms, because they are... advantaged? Pointless.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:16 AM
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But if you have 1-3 illegitimate children, it doesn't pay off, does it?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:10 AM
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Divorce culture and custodial problems are yet another issue.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:06 AM
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Yeah, but in order to live off of welfare as a single mom, wouldn't you have to have at least a few kids? I read welfare in US isn't too generous.
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:04 AM
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If you want the state to pay women to be SAHMs, why not pay single mothers to be SAHMs?
/r/MensRights17/08/17 12:03 AM
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If I hadn't come across hundreds of bitter texts about single mothers and fatherless children, I wouldn't have become so interested in this issue in the first place. So your doubts whether there is actually a problem shouldn't be directed at me.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 08:15 PM
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Not only do you propose only two possibilities, but you frame one as a matter of objective fact ("Are men accountable") and the other as a subjective opinion ("do you usually blame"). Sorry, I didn't mean to portray men as worse / less responsible than women. Do they have other issues in common such as being the children of a single teenage mother themselves or belonging to a Conservative Christian community where abstinence is heavily promoted over making contraception available or a state wher…
/r/MensRights16/08/17 08:09 PM
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Fatherlessness. If someone cares.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 08:05 PM
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You can look at my posting history and comment section. It's not me who blames single/teen mothers.
/r/MensRights16/08/17 07:40 PM
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Men crave for young, hot bodies. Women crave for resources. The world isn't fair.
/r/MensRights15/08/17 08:07 PM
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Selfishness in an inherent trait of human nature, but it doesn't mean we are incapable of selflessness. If you do something good for others, you improve the reality around you, even if it is just making someone's existence just a little less miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 09:33 AM
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Look, these reasons are valid for you, but lots of people entered relationships with single parents and became proper step-parents to their partners' children. Just because it is not done in a traditional way, doesn't mean it's definitionally wrong. Just because it's difficult and risky doesn't mean it's definitionally wrong. Just because it's something lots of - most? - people wouldn't do, doesn't mean it's definitionally wrong. Etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:45 AM
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So it doesn't make sense because YOU wouldn't do it??? Wow. And it's women who are told that they are solipsistic...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/17 01:20 AM
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I think every situation should be judged separately. Just now I read a post in SingleParents subreddit, whose author says she wants to leave her son's father, because she "feels unhappy" with him. I really don't know what to think. It is possible they could stay together and make it work, but it is also possible they could stay together and destroy each other's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:32 PM
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Emotionally cheat? What does that even mean? Sorry, even long term relationships come to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 06:20 PM
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Sometimes there is nothing to work on...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:23 PM
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"If we start referring to motherhood as the beautiful, messy privilege that it is, and to tending to our children as the most loving yet selfish thing we do, perhaps we can change the biased language my mother used. Only when we stop talking about motherhood as sacrifice can we start talking about mothers the way that we deserve." Parenthood is both selfish and selfless. It's not mutually exclusive. And no, it's not a privilege. It's a right. That is why even religious nuts or complete morons ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 08:43 AM
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And this isn't the result of just a single bad decision, but of a string of them: She decided to have sex with the wrong guy, she didn't properly take care of contraceptives, she didn't abort, and she didn't put her baby up for adoption. Yeah, because that is what pregnant women do: instead of taking responsibility for their child, they abort it or put it up for adoption. Jesus... How many people raised by single moms wish they had been aborted or adopted out? I bet almost only those who were ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 11:26 AM
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Having sex (because it's always a female's fault). Not having an abortion. Not putting the child up for adoption. Not begging the guy to stay with her. Not staying in an abusive relationship. Etc, etc. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:03 AM
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feminist mothers keep regurgitating the "better that he grow up with one loving parent than watch his parents be miserable". If you think about it, that is an incredibly selfish and solipsistic statement. There is nothing selfish in ending a bad marriage. And how can it be solipsistic??? Do you really believe two constantly arguing and miserable parents are better than one able to lead a happy life and trying to do what is best for her (or his) kid? Of course if both parents are fit, co-parentin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 10:11 PM
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I don't think it's inappropriate to rent a room to whomever you want. Perhaps I would feel a bit irritated if my offer (of any kind) was turned down because of my gender (I'm a female), race, ethnicity, age, marital status, faith, etc, but presumably I would just mock at this narrow-mindedness (or unnecessary caution) and move on.
/r/MensRights13/06/17 11:52 PM
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All I know is that MGTOW give up on women. If someone marries and has children, can he be MGTOW? As for the "women = teenagers" bullshit, I find the discussion futile. Such generalizations are worthless.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 07:17 AM
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How can blood honour be good when "managed" by men, but not when "managed" by women? Genuinely curious.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 12:49 AM
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Who are these "everyone around you"? Your single mom? You are a grown man, you don't have to listen to her any more. (said a female)
/r/TheRedPill09/06/17 12:15 AM
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I wish I was more assertive and self-reliant, so that I could be a proper role-model for my child too... How did you raise your daughters? Differently than your son?
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 11:56 PM
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Well, my mom also sucks at parenting, but I would never say that all women must be like her. I guess you still have problems with dealing with reality.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 11:36 PM
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Funny, it's usually men who are considered to be big children. Boys will be boys and so on, and so forth... Check my posting history, I wrote how I, a female, would raise my boy, and express your opinion. :)
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 10:12 PM
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What is emotional about saying that correlation is not causation? And why am I "burying my head in the sand"? Ah, never mind. Have a good day.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 09:54 PM
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That's great it worked for you but if I were your wife or daughter, I'd feel offended by your condescending tone when you estimate a woman's intellectual abilities. We don't only feel. :) We feel AND think. Simultaneously. I would have nothing against my partner becoming a SAHF, provided I had a good job. He is a loving and responsible dad, and I bet our child will have a very strong bond with him. But I wouldn't abstain from instilling certain moral values in our children. A mother can raise bo…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 09:47 PM
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My wife, like all women, is an emotional teenager, and when she and the kids interact, it turns into needless drama way too much. Wow. You just lost me here. Just because women show emotions more eagerly doesn't mean they are more emotional or less logical than men.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 08:44 PM
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Angry??? No. No idea why so many inmates were raised by single mothers. Never-married, divorced, widowed? Or co-parenting, but formally single? It doesn't affect my opinion on single motherhood in any way, as I still see much more correlation than causation. when you raise a child you do it together and if you can't work with you're partner, that you chose, then you're also a shitty parent. Yes, I do disagree and not because there are exceptions. People split all the time. That doesn't mean they…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 08:39 PM
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One gentleman on Returnofkings.com said that women are worse parents than men. He (or someone else, I don't remember) also said that you can't be both a good worker and a good parent. I think both statements are bullshit but IF you agree, then do you think fathers should stay at home with children while mothers should become major (or only) bread-winners?
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 05:13 PM
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It is a fact though that the #1 thing prisoners have in common is single parents. But it's like saying that marijuana is bad BECAUSE most drug addicts started with smoking pot. But how many marijuana users ended up with harder drugs? - one might ask. The same goes with single mothers: how many of them raise criminals? One could also argue that they're shit parents and that's why they're single, you never really know. You mean, shit PARTNERS? People in prison also have below average IQs which alm…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 04:45 PM
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I don't think any woman would deliberately emasculate her partner, son or any male she likes. Unfortunately women commit lots of mistakes. It would be nice if one day someone on TRP subreddit posted a text for single-mothers-to-be (true single mothers, not co-parenting with their exes) what they should do or what they shouldn't do in order to raise their son(s) right.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 03:49 PM
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I wonder if it's not because lots of poor quality women - to put it lightly - become single mothers. I mean, just because you don't have a dad doesn't put you at risk of becoming a thug or going mad.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 01:53 PM
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True words of wisdom. Constantly lying changes you, you start believing in your lies. It's good you got rid of that vice.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 01:44 PM
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Single mothers have to be both nurturers and bread-winners. Aren't they better at SHOWING their children how to survive than SAHMs?
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 01:36 PM
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I (female) would teach my son (or daughter) the same, except for loyalty. One should never be loyal to assholes just because he befriended them before they became assholes. As for respect, I couldn't agree more. One has to EARN it. And here is what one guy said to me: "Respect is given. It is something that those with a civilized upbringing extend to someone else until they have shown they do not deserve it. "You have to EARN my respect" is something a NaziFem says." So much for masculinity... O…
/r/TheRedPill08/06/17 01:08 PM
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Really? Men are shamed for staying unmarried? What about women?
/r/MensRights29/05/17 04:35 PM
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But aren't women in developed countries taught something opposite: that they can achieve everything because they aren't worse than men?
/r/MensRights29/05/17 04:30 PM
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As a foreigner I'd like to read more about entitlement of (some) women. What examples come to your mind?
/r/MensRights29/05/17 02:27 PM
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So what about my question? Do you have an opinion on this?
/r/askTRP28/05/17 08:42 PM
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Don't be stupid. My opinion is that children should NOT be put up for adoption, because one's biological identity is more important than family structure. Adoption is not a solution to single motherhood. These are TWO different things. Besides would you say a widow who lost her husband while being pregnant should place her child? (Actually that's what Mormons did for some time.) So, yes, the SOLUTION is just an opinion, I wanted to know yours. I am not going to watch the whole movie. I gave you …
/r/askTRP28/05/17 07:05 PM
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I don't think a child needs a father growing up What about a mother? Can a single dad be enough? I really doubt fathers were spending a lot of time with their kids throughout most of our time as homo sapiens. Depends on the period of our history. Up until 60s mothers were primary care takers, while fathers worked outside the household. So I guess children of both sexes were more exposed to women's influence.
/r/askTRP28/05/17 06:50 PM
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That's interesting, because according to stats most children raised by single moms will be fine. http://www.clasp.org/resources-and-publications/states/0086.pdf
/r/askTRP28/05/17 06:42 PM
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Where are you from?
/r/askTRP28/05/17 06:13 PM
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I forgot where I posted the question. I was (am) particularly interested in men's opinions, so I asked this question on a few subs. I erased the post because sometimes other people used my questions against me and I don't need that. I am asking for myself, to get to know Americans' point of view.
/r/askTRP28/05/17 04:26 PM
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Makes it sound like you agree with me? Whenever someone brings up the subject of stats on single mothers' kids, I say that according to the stats MOST these kids will turn out fine. However, many don't. A woman with 7 children from 7 fathers could be a good example. It's honestly just filth. Women like these should be reported to social services. I want to learn bjj, should I go to Warsaw or krakow?? Brazilian Jiu Jitsu? I honestly don't know. I live in Lublin. :)
/r/askTRP15/05/17 09:16 AM
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Statistically they have a bigger chance NOT to fail. But never mind that. A woman who would have seven children with seven men, all of them being absent fathers, has fewer chances to raise wise kids. However... An interesting anecdote, with no agenda: on Quora forum there is a woman, an Australian as well - I think - who is quite poor, probably on welfare, has five kids from four men, had custody battles, was raised by an abusive mother who wants her to loose custody over her son (or sons), but …
/r/askTRP14/05/17 11:07 PM
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Even if your mom wasn't a teen, thank you for your story. May I ask if your nickname reveals your true convictions?
/r/askTRP14/05/17 09:59 PM
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Why?
/r/askTRP14/05/17 09:56 PM
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I think Ann's point was that if you know you're not married, don't have kids. You added this to your comment, so I am answering it now. I have a problem with A. C., because: She thinks that if all POTENTIAL single mothers got married first, their children wouldn't end in jail. That's bullshit. Who they would be married to? Only decent men who would make splendid fathers? Marriage is not a magical remedy to the society's ills. Divorced people were married once. If fatherlessness was the main caus…
/r/MensRights13/05/17 06:10 PM
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None of these factors is directly linked to being fatherless. If it was, then children raised by widows would have similar outcomes to children raised by never-married mothers. I would never say not having a dad is better than having a GOOD dad. But unmarried mothers (even very young) are not equally ill-equipped to raise a child. Just like married parents are not equally well prepared to raise one. So I wondered if the solution proposed by A.C. wouldn't cause more harm than good.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 05:15 PM
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First you say that adopted children face different sorts of problems, but when I asked you to provide statistics you just squirmed around backing up what you said with any real facts. That's dishonest, but whatever. Maybe I misunderstood you. Yes, adopted children may face some problems, may feel bad about being adopted out and there are a lot of adoptees who wished they weren't adopted, but that's not a place for a debate. You can go the sub Adoption if you are interested. And no, not any girl …
/r/MensRights13/05/17 04:35 PM
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Let's take a look. 72% of juvenile murderers and 60% of rapists come from single mother homes. I'll also put that down as not super high quality of life. It doesn't mean 70 % of kids raised by single moms will end in jail or that 60 % will become rapists. The same goes with other numbers. It's not that 63 % of children raised by single moms will commit suicide, or 70 % will become teen parents, etc. It doesn't mean these numbers are good. But MOST children raised by single moms won't experience …
/r/MensRights13/05/17 03:09 PM
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What I meant was, that the quality of one's life can't be measured only by "success". But that's my opinion.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 01:46 PM
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Adoption goes with DIFFERENT sort of problems.
/r/MensRights13/05/17 01:34 PM
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My parents are both great and terrible at the same time (an affluent married couple, had me in their late twenties). I didn't turn out OK. No, I don't wish I were put up for adoption. :) I'm gathering opinions, so the question is theoretical. Thank you for your honesty and willingness to share your experience with me. Would adoption be better for you because your mom died young, or because of something else? If the question is too bold, forgive me.
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 12:46 AM
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You said you were raised by a single mom. I don't know how old you were when she died. Would adoption at birth be a better choice for YOU?
/r/RedPillWomen13/05/17 12:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3FE4pI_kw&feature=youtu.be
/r/askTRP12/05/17 10:50 PM
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I really wish she hadn't kept me sometimes. You mean you wish she gave you up for adoption?
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 10:49 PM
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How do you know? I read stats and MOST children raised by single moms are OK (meaning: they don't have such problems like dropping out of school, being incarcerated, etc). I don't have stats on single TEEN mothers. Can you provide some?
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 09:08 PM
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There are many people raised by POOR SINGLE TEENAGE mothers who turned out fine. Was it difficult? Sure. Life is difficult. But the most important thing was a mother's parenting skills and determination. Adoption goes with loss. Children do best with their biological families, if only they are loved and well taken care of.
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 07:41 PM
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Where do you live, if I may ask?
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 02:44 PM
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I presume you are a man (meaningfull nickname ;))? What do you mean "deliberately"? Usually women who decide to be artificially inseminated are well prepared for financial struggles and have a male role model for their child. The same goes - I think - with single women or lesbians who adopt. (I mentioned lesbians, because there is no male in a relationship, although you might have focused on money issue, not fatherlessness.) So were you speaking only about women who actively try to conceive / ad…
/r/RedPillWomen12/05/17 12:08 PM
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hamstering usually refers to the rationalizing of information that women practice in order to paint themselves as victims or any process of trying to excuse shitty behavior on her part (usually by DEER - defer, excuse, evade, rationalize). Men do it too. We all try to rationalize our choices, I often "defended" single mothers but I never did it in order to present them in a good light. I did it because people often make terrible generalizations about them, like you do it now. I don't think it's …
/r/askTRP11/05/17 09:21 PM
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What is hamstering? i'm a foreigner. I think you mistake cause with effect. Maybe mentally ill women are more likely to enter single motherhood than getting married first? I mean, how can being an unwed mother be a cause of a mental illness?
/r/askTRP11/05/17 07:53 PM
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Single mothers have usually a harder life than maried ones, besides I think they are often looked down on in Asian cultures, which surely adds to the stress. I'm not here to argue with you, though. Like I said, abortion would be out of the question, so I wanted to know what to do when a child is born.
/r/askTRP11/05/17 07:17 PM
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OK, any sound suggestions?
/r/askTRP11/05/17 07:14 PM
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I think you are speaking about bad man-hating mothers, not single mothers. Single (divorced or never-married) mothers are not man-haters by definitions, nor are they sluts. Besides motherhood can change a slut into a nurturing mother (not very probable but possible, since mothehood is a HUGE change for most females).
/r/askTRP11/05/17 06:26 PM
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So you think all/most boys raised by single mothers are fucked up? (The question is not about me. And some girls are against abortion.)
/r/askTRP11/05/17 05:51 PM
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Okay, I think we are talking about two different things. Maybe I haven't made myself clear. I think both men and women are responsible for women getting the right to vote. I would never say women had to go on war with ALL men. What I tried to say is that NOW it would be too hard for men to deprive women of this right (and most other rights they enjoy in the so-called civilized world), just as it would be too hard for white men to reintroduce slavery.
/r/MensRights10/05/17 01:37 AM
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The same can be applied to most men. You are talking about people, not females only. People crave for a leader who would relieve them of making - too many - choices. However, if you take away from a person (be it even the meekest female) the possibility of making ANY choice, he/she will eventually rebel, most of the times not oficially but covertly.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/17 12:39 AM
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Well, what did you expect? Women are definitely treated more leniently when it comes to violence, that's for sure. But we have to remember that shows like this one are mainly examples of the downfall of culture. I assure you most Polish women don't beat their partners. :)
/r/MensRights02/05/17 01:51 AM
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Thank you for this interesting lecture. It looks like sharia law is unfair to both men and women.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 06:33 PM
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No, I didn't. What is it about?
/r/MensRights30/04/17 12:56 PM
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I can't tell you how many clients I have who are living on welfare or disability, who come in sporting the latest iPhone/Android or last year's Jordans, or a Tommy Hilfiger coat. I doubt people would spend money on frivolities if the culture around them didn't support rampant consumerism.
/r/MensRights30/04/17 12:54 PM
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That's exactly what the book is about. :)
/r/MensRights30/04/17 09:41 AM
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I would never think of "The Lord of the Flies" as a misandrist book. I would say it criticizes children trying to build a civilization, and the aim of it is to dismantle "a noble savage" myth.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 11:03 PM
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These are reasonable points, I think poor people shouldn't be left to their sad fate but they shouldn't be showered with money either. I think free health care would be a good thing in US, as it is beneficial for the whole society.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 10:55 PM
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I think the issue for women is that they've been told by feminists for 30 years that they should be capable of "having it all"—being the breadwinner and a competent mom. That's unreasonable, and I think the real stress women suffer from these days comes from trying to fill both sets of shoes. Aren't there great working mothers? Even single mothers? This issue is bigger the gender dynamics arena, although I agree changing family structures are a major component. And fewer children. And weaker fam…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 10:47 PM
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So it's entirely likely that the author got it wrong. That boys among a mixed sex group under those conditions would have devolved into savagery, and boys in a same sex group might have been much less likely to do so. Without girls to fight over, cooperation is more beneficial than antagonism. That's right. But I seriously doubt that Golding wanted to portray an average boy as a potential brutal savage. I think he wanted to portray A CHILD as incapable of creating a civilization. The gender wasn…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 10:18 PM
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Like Fred Hayward said, it's hard to quantify the ways men and women suffer from sexism. How do you compare them, when the ways they suffer are different? Exactly. Both sexes are discriminated but in different ways. The only thing more effective than, "they're coming to hurt our women" is "they're so evil, they hurt their own women." Sorry, but if you are speaking about hords of "refugees" who entered Europe a year and a half ago, then forigve me, but I can't really sympathize with them. There h…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 09:56 PM
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Wise words. May I quote them some day?
/r/MensRights29/04/17 09:44 PM
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Contrary to what feminists will tell you, women have always had the option to work and to be educated. Women were and are treated very poorly for even an attempt to do something outside the social norm. So it's just like saying that a person who is given a choice between dying or killing someone is free to choose. Every culture that marries daughters off against their wills also does this with their sons. And we need to really look at things with a more balanced perspective before we claim that …
/r/MensRights29/04/17 06:30 PM
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But you have to realize that a middle aged woman with teenage children and a full time job isn't going to be able to make the trip a couple times a week to ensure her mom or dad is getting the care they deserve. That's why it shouldn't be only children who keep an eye on their disabled parent's well-being. Our society created many safety networks, organizations, communities, so that we don't have to rely only on our families. But there's the thing. She did have a choice. It would have been hard,…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 06:30 PM
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What you are saying makes sense. People usually don't appreciate things they get for free as much as if they had to pay for them themselves. Usually... I think there is a problem with our perception of relationships. And life in general. We don't want to struggle. We want to have a comfortable, easy life. That doesn't make us happier.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 05:47 PM
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My grandmother used to tell my mom, when she was in a bad mood, "fake it 'til you make it." That is, pretend to be happy for half an hour, and you'll be happy. I think it depends on the intensity of emotions and whether they are short- or long-term. About a year later, he had another stroke, more serious. He lost his ability to speak, and all memory of who anyone was. He had to be hospitalized in long term care. She took a cab from my grandparents' home in Spruce Grove to the hospital in Edmonto…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 05:37 PM
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Yes, that would be great. Money should go to children's needs. Why wasn't it you who declared a reasonable sum of money for the children? And why doesn't you ex partner co-parent, if I may ask? Wouldn't it be more beneficial financially?
/r/MensRights29/04/17 05:18 PM
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It's really interesting stuff, thanks for sharing it with me. I still enjoy having a choice. :)
/r/MensRights29/04/17 05:07 PM
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Interesting distinction between instinct and emotions. I always thought it happens simultaneously. What are you getting at when it comes to choice? Are you suggesting we should have less options, instead of none or too many? Well, Jim and Alan have two options, right? And they aren't happy in the end. So how should problem with working women be rosolved? I thought it's reasonable that they should have the right to choose: to either stay at home or go to work. Take away the choice and you may see…
/r/MensRights29/04/17 12:29 PM
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Your comment was vague so I wanted to know what changes you would recommend. Like I said, I am open to a discussion. I think child support is a good thing but its amount should be reasonable.
/r/MensRights29/04/17 03:36 AM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/MensRights29/04/17 01:42 AM
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I think this lady is wrong. If EITHER a mom or a dad keeps a baby, the other party has the right to walk away (it's not morally proper in my opinion, but people should have that choice) but he/she SHOULD pay child support. As for welfare, I believe leaving mothers (or fathers) to face a terrible choice of either adopting their child(ren) out or raising them in acute poverty is wrong. Welfare needs reforms, not annihilation. Maybe like the state will support you if you have 1-3 (4?) children, but…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 07:16 PM
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The paradox of choice (more choices make people less happy) is as well documented in psychology as anything. When you are constantly led to believe you could do better than you're doing now (whether it's in your choice of home, car, breakfast cereal, whatever), it causes you to speculate that what you chose isn't the best option, and you go out of your way to focus on its flaws. In my psychology classes I learned that when people are given POSITIVE choices, they are usually happy with their fina…
/r/MensRights28/04/17 04:37 PM
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Do you have anything other than your opinion? It's assumption. Just like in your case. You don't have any evidence people were happier. Really? Do you doubt it? Certainly not when they're all working outside the home. So you expect people to quit work and take care of aging parents? And where would the money come from?
/r/MensRights28/04/17 08:42 AM
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You were right up to the point where you started writing about men "getting together". Sounds as if men are better off without women's observations and opinions. I think we should listen to those who have something wise to say, not to those who are like us in terms of gender, nationality or any other common traits.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 09:05 PM
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I would suggest to you that the ease with which women in particular can leave relationships and form new ones (the existence of options) damages the satisfaction they might otherwise find in the relationships they're presently in. If the mere existence of options makes one less satisfied with what they have, then making marriages less easy for women to leave might actually increase women's happiness overall. Not really. Not having a choice may make you less willing to fight and enjoy what you ha…
/r/MensRights27/04/17 08:42 PM
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Not in my case.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 08:02 PM
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Which part would be yours? ;)
/r/MensRights27/04/17 06:51 PM
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Oficially - yes. But I don't care about the teachings of the Church.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 06:13 PM
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It's not about her, it's about a human life developing in her womb. I I know now in US abortion is legal. Let's hope at least late-term abortions will be banned once and for all.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 06:07 PM
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Some women mourn, some don't. It's irrelevant. It's not about emotions but about the law.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 05:38 PM
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Marriage no longer is - and should not be - an arrangement where children are one of natural outcomes. And frankly speaking, I find it disgusting when someone suggests that illegitimate children should be treated differently than legitimate ones.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 05:36 PM
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Forcing??? What about responsibility for a life one created? Sorry, I don't buy the idea that either a man or a woman has the right to walk away as if nothing happened. Only if both parties relinquish their right to a baby, there is no need to pay child support.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 04:22 PM
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There is a difference between a miscarriage and abortion.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 04:21 PM
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I find it only natural that once a baby is born and at least one parent remains its legal guardian, the other has to pay child support. Why should women be treated differently?
/r/MensRights27/04/17 03:14 PM
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There are a lot of healthy families with one parent or no parent at all (relatives raising kids). The two-bio-loving-parent household is an ideal but it doesn't mean other family types have to be "unhealthy".
/r/MensRights27/04/17 03:13 PM
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After a baby is removed from its mother's womb, it can't be killed on her demand.
/r/MensRights27/04/17 03:03 PM
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Male unity? Shouldn't we all - men and women - think for ourselves?
/r/MensRights27/04/17 12:36 PM
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Thanks. I find some articles on ROK very interesting, but many reek of childish misogyny.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 08:32 PM
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I don't get it. Why do American unmarried fathers have to prove anything apart from their paternity? Or maybe I misunderstood you? (not a native English speaker)
/r/MensRights26/04/17 07:30 PM
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Excuse me, but who is a PUA?
/r/MensRights26/04/17 07:09 PM
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I don't have to show anything in any light. Curb your emotions. My opinion is formed on what I have read on ROK and forgive me, but while there are a lot of good articles, there are a lot of silly, childish and prejudiced too. Don't blame me, blame ROK. If there are articles there which say a woman's primary duty is to be a wife and mother, men are divided into alphas and betas, men who aren't anti-feminist are cucks - then what can I think?
/r/MensRights26/04/17 06:51 PM
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Men are not all the same. Women are not all the same. We differ and that's great.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 05:15 PM
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Wow, thanks. It's so nice. I try to be open-minded, but I don't think all ideologies are equal. I think all this alpha-beta division is childish and silly, and I don't like TRPs' approach to women.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 05:14 PM
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After reading Return of the Kings website and a few posts on TheRedPill subreddit, I think most of these unfavourable opinions are justified.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 12:38 PM
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I have read lots of articles on Return of the Kings site and I noticed the authors not only describe the reality but also say what it should be like. So it's ALSO about opinions. As for feelings, well... I think men are as emotional as women, but their emotions are stirred by different things. You are right, I'm not a native English speaker.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 11:25 AM
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Sorry, it's about feelings, because it's about opinions. And opinions aren't reality.
/r/MensRights26/04/17 09:20 AM
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So you admit you aren't better than a rabid feminist?
/r/MensRights25/04/17 08:38 PM
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That would be best.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 06:53 PM
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I mentioned poverty because it also can affect one's life.
/r/MensRights25/04/17 08:18 AM
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The post is about women, isn't it? Besides I didn't notice any sign that women have no right to express their opinions here.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:32 PM
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Stats are generalizations, besides you don't know where correlation ends and causation begins. Also - do you think that being born in less-than-ideal situation will have to affect your life? Neither adoption nor single motherhood are ideal solutions. But they go with DIFFERENT sort of problems.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 04:03 PM
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The content was: "If you had a choice between one loving bio mom and two loving adoptive parents - what would you choose? Why am I asking? Because I engaged in a discussion where I was heavily downvoted when I started defending women raising boys by themselves. I was NOT saying fathers are irrelevant. Yet it seems like some gentlemen felt they need to prove that single mothers are worst at raising children because according to stats their children are most likely to experience certain problems. …
/r/MensRights24/04/17 03:43 PM
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Oh, I didn't know you are Japanese. It looks like Japan needs some reforms too.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 03:42 PM
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I thought you co-parent with your ex. You wrote it in the first comment.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:54 PM
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Unless I was brainwashed, I don't think I could rob my partner of his possessions after we split. I think we would have to decide before marriage what would happen if we ever parted. He loves the baby. He should take care of it (with my help). :)
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:51 PM
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Someone accused be of being a troll. :(
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:48 PM
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Sorry, but if someone chose poor biological parents over rich adoptive ones, would you say he/she is illogical, because poverty is worse than wealth? Maybe if I asked: "If you were born to a single mom, would you like to be put up for adoption?", it would be more understandable. :)
/r/MensRights24/04/17 01:47 PM
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You mean your kids are only with their mother, not with you?
/r/MensRights24/04/17 09:51 AM
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I'm sorry you had to go through all of this. But please, bear in mind this question is absolutely purely theoretical and deals with: one loving bio mom two loving bio parents
/r/MensRights24/04/17 08:45 AM
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The stats are completely irrelevant HERE. I asked this question on MenRights sub because I am particularly interested in mens' perspective what would be best from their individual point of view (hint: I have enough females' responses).
/r/MensRights24/04/17 08:43 AM
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This was my first encounter with Red Pill: http://www.returnofkings.com/44800/unwed-mothers-should-give-their-children-up-for-adoption Now I'm banned there. :)))
/r/MensRights24/04/17 08:22 AM
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Well, if you manage not to follow the Red Pill ideology (see: ROK website), that would be enough. Good luck.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:53 AM
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I think these are very good points. I wouldn't agree with the penalty part, though, unless that is what the contract signed during or before the wedding says.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:44 AM
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I suppose you should go there.
/r/MensRights24/04/17 07:31 AM
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That's absurd, really. But without no fault divorce marriage would be even less desirable.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 09:07 PM
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What about a never-married mother?
/r/MensRights23/04/17 08:30 PM
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I read an article about Murphy Brown's case. Actually, I remember this show, and the main character, age 42 (I guess), staring at many pregnancy tests which were positive. Who might have guessed this work of fiction would cause politicians and media fight over single motherhood? :DDD Personally, I don't think single mothers are heroes, but I have a lot of sympathy for those who try to be good parents to their kids and stay afloat.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 07:48 PM
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I like arguing. Of course it's nice when people agree with me, but when they don't, I simply engage in a discussion or... shrug my arms and go away. ;) Who views single mothers in "heroic terms"?
/r/MensRights23/04/17 06:45 PM
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If neither parent is abusive or neglectful, they should both "get" a kid.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 06:18 PM
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I identified as a feminist in the 90s. Only because I thought - and still think - men and women should be treated equally by law. But frankly speaking, I never cared much about gender issues. I was born (and I still live) in Poland, a country where feminists do exist, but I think they are less toxic and men-hating than their American counterparts. Anyway, right now I think the word "feminism" lost its meaning. So what do I care about it? If a feminist says something I agree with - I'll support h…
/r/MensRights23/04/17 06:13 PM
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Well, I have never seen a circumcised penis. Benefits of living in my country. :)
/r/MensRights23/04/17 03:02 PM
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So were are your men? Are you a father right now, if I may ask?
/r/MensRights23/04/17 02:24 PM
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I don't know what CACT is, and I do know data. The thing is, NO data gives an answer what would always be better. Just because some problems are less frequent in 2-parent households doesn't mean adoption is better by default. So I was looking only for opinions.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 11:57 AM
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Men and women should respect each other and be helpful. As a woman I always felt that a thing called sex war, where one sex tries to intimidate the other, is one of the most stupid things under the sun.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 10:59 AM
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What does "mkt" mean? I'm not American.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 01:23 AM
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Well, my name is Karolina, right?
/r/MensRights23/04/17 12:58 AM
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OK. Tell me, what is wrong with trying to find out WHY stats look the way they look? What is wrong with suggesting that correlation MIGHT not be causation in this case? In other words: what is wrong with me saying the stats are so bad, because... and giving some reasons? And why do I give these reasons? Because MAYBE stats could be improved for single moms - if this and this happened. Were good single mothers compared to bad ones? Those with support system with those without it? And what does it…
/r/MensRights23/04/17 12:49 AM
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Yeah, I know the stats, we've discussed them. But I don't think there is such a creature like a typical single mothers, just like there is no such a creature like a typical married mother. I wrote enough about it, if you can't understand what stats are, it's not my fault.
/r/MensRights23/04/17 12:00 AM
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Exactly, why did you say I'm against it?
/r/MensRights22/04/17 11:55 PM
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Sorry, stats are generalizations, so no, I don't think single moms are worse by default. Perhaps there are more bad single moms than bad married moms and that is what influences the stats. I am NOT against no fault divorce. On the contrary.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:33 PM
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But in your case you'd have to be put up for adoption when you weren't infants any more, right? My question is purely theoretical.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:27 PM
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I was talking about my comments on this sub. If you referred only to this single thread, then I don't know what your problem is.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:07 PM
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I don't have any agenda. I'm just asking or expressing opinions. If you consider everyone who disagrees with you to be a troll, then you aren't better than feminists.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 08:57 PM
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Oh, so anyone who is not praising everything you say should leave the sub? Well, that says a lot about people like you.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 08:38 PM
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They are trying to get us to say, yes we should take kids from single moms, and give them to adoptive parents. Which I'm sure we will then end up on feminism sub portrayed as evil child stealers. What have you been drinking???
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:53 PM
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No, I didn't know that. How were they related to him? My question is purely theoretical and it's not the first time when I asked it. I received many various answers. The ones I am happy with most are those who deal with a man's own preferences, not statistics and possibility of success (because it's not what matters most, at least not to me).
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:16 PM
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Interesting. But does it matter to a boy (and that's what the thread is about) if he has two mothers or one? Still - no father.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 06:55 PM
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Great. I hope, however, that you will never become as extreme as some feminists. ;)
/r/MensRights22/04/17 05:28 PM
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I didn't mean taking by force. Yes, it's a "thought experiment", I asked what would be better - theoretically, from YOUR point of view.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 05:00 PM
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You can do all that, but if it is not effective, then maybe it's time you changed methods? I don't know, really. It breaks my heart when a loving bio parent loses their child. Sorry if what I wrote was impolite.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 03:53 PM
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Seriously???
/r/MensRights22/04/17 02:48 PM
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You guys stop whining and start fighting for your children.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 02:26 PM
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I support giving parents equal custody by default, unless one of them is considered a threat to his/her children.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 02:07 PM
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I never said it's OK.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 02:05 PM
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It is only irrational in our eyes, because of our society. Poor countries don't have safety nets and welfare for the most part. So the only thing that helps you when you are old are children. But the same goes with the poor in developed countries. That doesn't mean to force-marry them, but he should play a role as a father to the kid he helped making. Or do you disagree? Or do you deny him the ability to change for the better and be a good parent that you grant the woman? Why would I be against …
/r/MensRights22/04/17 02:04 PM
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Do you think it would be better for boys to be put up for adoption?
/r/MensRights22/04/17 01:53 PM
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I don't think it can be compared to a rape.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 01:50 PM
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If both parents are fit and willing to raise children, they should share custody equally.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 01:49 PM
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And what can she do about it? She wants to raise him the best she can. Also, we don't know why she, her mom and grandmom are/were single.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 01:46 PM
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What I see is a woman overwhelmed by strong and destructive emotions. Oh, and just to make sure you understand: I don't excuse her nor do I think it's good when a teacher can't think clearly.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 11:15 AM
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Of course it was sex, but why did she have sex, seemingly unprotected, at such a young age? Because she was careless. Like many older women, though at her age carelessness is more - let's say - natural. And just because it is very much in our nature to have sex, doesn't mean it is good, which you kind of seem to imply. Absolutely, but we shouldn't be too harsh when it comes to that. I'm not trying to excuse moronic behaviour, just saying that people often choose poorly but they can (almost alway…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 11:04 AM
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Are you a man?
/r/MensRights22/04/17 10:25 AM
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Oh, Lord, I never argued it's not reasonable to have an unprotected sex with lots of strangers. I was talking about a situation when a child is already conceived. Anecdotally, it's possible that even an irresponsible slutty teen could change, when she conceives a child. If according to stats children raised by married couples have better outcomes than children raised by cohabiting couples or step-parent families or two divorced parents, then the very presence of a father (or father figure) is no…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 10:22 AM
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These women were NOT misguided because you don't actually have the data what is better, unless you are looking ONLY for chances for being successful on a social ladder. Besides stats are generalizations. The women I asked chose what would be better from their point of view, in spite of potential dangers, obstacles, difficulties. When I asked people whether they would choose poor bio parents or rich adoptive ones, most chose the former. Irrational? :)
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:21 AM
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OK, I get it. Interesting that when I ask guys, they usually quote stats, while when I ask women, they speak about their personal preferences.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:10 AM
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OK, I am having a hard time trying to understand you. We all know both parents are important but if it's not possible or one parent is unfit, then...
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:01 AM
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I asked for personal preferences. :)
/r/MensRights22/04/17 09:00 AM
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How did she get pregnant? I think it's rational to assume she had a sexual intercourse. ;) Yes, it's a choice, but then again - one of the most natural ones a living creature can make. ;) OK, seriosly: even a woman/girl who makes very poor choices at choosing men, could be a good mother. Maybe it's less likely, still - possible. And - what is more important - if she is supported by others and encouraged to be a good mother, the odds wouldn't be so much against her. And frankly - what are the alt…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 08:58 AM
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Well, thanks for kindness.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:36 AM
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Guys, a female here, neither a feminist (at least not in a American style) nor a MRM supporter. Common sense needed here. This woman is not vile, deluded, malicious or a men-hater. Her accusations stem form her past trauma. She needs counselling asap. Not all rape victims are men-haters. But I suppose most of them is more or less damaged.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:32 AM
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Don't thank me, everyone could tell you that.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:24 AM
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Why the irony?
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:21 AM
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In the ideal world...
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:08 AM
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Wow. I am giving you rational reasons why no fault divorce is a good thing and you are suggesting I have a hidden agenda here? Jesus. Why not making courts treat both spouses equally? That would be much better. Harder? Yep. But in the long run - more beneficial. Believe me, today fewer people that in the "good old days" would risk getting married, if they couldn't get of it without much fight.
/r/MensRights22/04/17 07:06 AM
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Look, it's always better to split amicably than fighting. No fault divorce is better than months of fighting, don't you think?
/r/MensRights22/04/17 12:58 AM
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You could also say that a child would be better off with older parents than with teenage parents. With richer parents than with poor parents. With healthy parents than with sick ones. I, on the other hand, think that neither age, nor marital status, nor being poor are good reasons to relinquish a child. A child is best off with people who love him/her most AND who are his/her real family at the same time. Biology isn't everything but it counts. Plus - a bio mom is the FIRST mom. I met few people…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 12:55 AM
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I see your point but the solution is worse than the disease. Why not maintain no fault divorce, but give equal custody over children to both parents? (provided there is no abuse or neglect!) Why should a divorcee get all the property? It should be divided equally or according to what two partners decided when they were marrying. If you get rid of no fault divorce, I'll tell you what will skyrocket: cohabitation and out-of-wedlock births. Not that I cared. I cohabit. That's fine with me. Is it wi…
/r/MensRights22/04/17 12:03 AM
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Wow. Uneasy? No. I am terrified that a man who is supposed to be for family preservation suggests that adoption is better than one bio parent. Because that's what you have just suggested, right? That a loving mother should give her child up for adoption because STATISTICALLY it would do better off. Does this apply to widows too? ;) Well then, congratulations. You just said that separating a child from his/her closest family member is a good idea, because this family member is SINGLE. That's what…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 11:53 PM
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Well, that's why I am so pissed when men say single mothers are incapable of raising healthy, well-adjusted boys. I would never say fathers are dispensable and I think my own boyfriend is a better parent than I am, but bashing single mothers, as if they were some stupid retards that damage their sons, is disgusting. Is this what this sub is about? :(
/r/MensRights21/04/17 11:02 PM
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I tried to answer the question about single dads. I don't have data about gay parents versus lesbian parents. Are you one of those men who would say that is a son of a single mom goes to jail, it's her fault? Or that a child would be better off with two strangers (adoptive family) than with one bio mother, because stats show the outcome would be STATISTICALLY better?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:57 PM
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Why do the majority have to experience these things, for us to know that the single-parent family is all round a poorer situation, considering the average outcomes? If a son of a single mother goes to jail - should we immediately assume it's because he had no father (or even a father figure) in his life? If a daughter of a single mother gets pregnant in her teens, is it because she was fatherless? The answer might be "yes" in some cases. But not always. That's why I repeat that correlation is no…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:52 PM
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May I ask if you are a man?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:24 PM
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May I ask why you chose this nickname? :)
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:16 PM
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I don't know anything about lesbians versus gay men. Single fathers might be more likely to earn more and live in better neighbourhoods. Or they may be STATISTICALLY better at parenting because there are many BAD single mothers, much more, I think, than bad single fathers. Why? Because women are usually the ones who keep children, no matter whether they are good or bad parents. What are we actually arguing about?????
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:14 PM
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No, they don't. If they did, you would answer my questions.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:11 PM
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Elaborate, please.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 10:02 PM
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Obviously it isn't every single mom, or the numbers would look much different. Not even most. And when it does occur, it's maybe correlation, not causation. Maybe. I was seeking answers, you seem to know everything from pure numbers. When you look at lesbian relationships, the children suffer almost the exact same problems, which isn't the case with gay men raising a child. Why do you suppose that is? Where did you get this? To note, you haven't directly answered a single question of mine. What …
/r/MensRights21/04/17 09:34 PM
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No, I don't want to disprove anything, but I read that children raised by widows (one group) compared with children raised by never-married women (another group) far better. Of course you may say in the first case the dad was around, but for how long? The only thing I want to say is that all those statistics don't show what comes WITH certain types of parenthood. Comparing married couples and cohabiting couples, the stats show children do better in the first case. So is it only about the lack of…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 09:28 PM
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Of course not. But when was the last time you guys were drafted? And why would the times of peace be of lesser significance than times of war? Why would women be influenced AT ALL by politics, if they shouldn't vote? Why would they have to pay taxes (no matter, more or less than men) or obey the law, if they had nothing to say?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 09:02 PM
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but neither gave evidence to back that claim up, nor even defined exactly what it meant by 'serious problems'. Both yours and my links say that the risk is greater than in 2-parent households. They don't say that majority of these kids will experience incarceration, dropping out of school, etc. Empirical evidence > anecdotes. These anecdotes tell us that the most important thing is committment of a parent, the environment, support of others, etc. We're here to speak up about the important role o…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 08:43 PM
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OK, I read statistics and I also gave you the link to them. What is your point? Do your stats say something different than the ones I gave you? Are you trying to say that MOST children raised by single moms will end in jail or on streets? Because if you are saying that the likelihood of unwanted outcome means mothers are dispensable, then you are making a fool of yourself. I don't have to defend single mothers, they are NOT all the same. I read many stories told by adults raised by single - ofte…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 08:03 PM
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Thank you but I know my limits.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:54 PM
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Why is that?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:53 PM
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Just because 70 % of inmates come from fatherless homes doesn't mean 70 % of children raised by single mothers will end in jail. And so on, and so forth. Raising an opposite sex child is difficult, but many were raised successfully. Oh, and one important thing: NO statistics measure happiness and well-adjustment.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:51 PM
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I never thought you are accusing me. English is my second language so I may misunderstand you. Sorry. (If I were in a shitty relationship, I would probably end it, for my and my child's sake.)
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:48 PM
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They are relevant, because children raised by widows far better than raised by never-married mothers, so the lack of the father isn't the only factor.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:27 PM
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I am not trying to defend single mothers, simply trying to suggest that the data don't say anything about - for instance - parenting skills many single women enter motherhood. But nevermind that. I gave you the link to stats which show most of these kids will be fine. Let's agree that it is not an ideal situation but not a recipe for disaster either.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:23 PM
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No, MOST children raised by single mothers will be OK. The risk is greater, but it doesn't mean single moms are worse than married moms by default. So what you wrote is stupid.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:16 PM
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I gave you factors which go with single motherhood. You dismissed them. Mistaking correlation with causation.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:12 PM
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"[...] if you had a kid with a shitty person, most of the blame falls on you." Well, thank you for proving that men aren't more logical than women. "not YOU but just you waves hand around" I don't get it.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:10 PM
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What is illogical in my comments?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 07:08 PM
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Sorry, but don't tell me an abusive marriage is better than one parent. And don't tell me that all married women can afford to be SAHMs.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:56 PM
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I thought nowadays you can't be drafted against your will.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:55 PM
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What about other factors that go with single motherhood? The increased risk? Sure. But that is NO excuse for one's personal choices. Sorry, if I were a single teenage mother (statistically two risks: being single and very young) and my son went to jail, it wouldn't be because of my age or marital status. It might be because of bad parenting. Bad neighbourhood. Bad family's influence. Or simply - my son's poor choices. But not because of his moms's age or being single. Who could ever say that? Wh…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:54 PM
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Just because women don't fight doesn't mean they aren't influenced by politics.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:48 PM
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And if a good parent takes the kid and the shitty parent has to go away? Every situation is different.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:47 PM
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Sorry, but the stats DON'T say that kids raised by single mothers do worse, they say MORE kids of single mothers do worse than kids raised by 2-parent household. That's the truth. I said nothing about foster care.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:46 PM
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Single motherhood MAY go with some risk factors (poverty, personality issues, bad neighbourhood, etc). I'm not saying the lack of the father means nothing, but we can't assume it's the only factor that influences these children's well-being. If I were a single mother, even a single teenage mother, I would raise my son/daughter to accept responsibility for their action. Not having a father is not a good excuse for going to prison or dropping out of school.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:44 PM
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Isn't it because moms are given custody more often? And aren't stats so bad because many poor quality women become single mothers? Sorry, but correlation is not causation. Mothers are NOT less important than fathers. If you measure happiness by the likelihood of risk, you could say that children raised by adoptive parents are happier than raised by single mothers. And that would be bullshit, because suggesting that children put up for adoption are happier than raised by their biological parent w…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:36 PM
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The statistics DON'T say that single mothers raise criminals and unhappy human beings, like some guys (and not only) say. They say the risk is bigger. It doesn't mean that most of these children will end in jail or on streets. "Of course, most children in single-parent families will not experience these negative outcomes." "This being said, most children not living with married, biological parents grow up without serious problems." http://www.clasp.org/resources-and-publications/states/0086.pdf
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:30 PM
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Maybe single-parent families are more likely to use force against children, because many aggressive, unable to establish a proper relationship women become single mothers? It doesn't mean, however, that single mothers are worse than married mothers. :) Was your mom single?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 06:23 PM
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Well, I asked people what it was like to be raised by a single mother and some guys responded they turned out OK. You, on the other hand, are implying that if the dad is missing, his boy would be damaged and/or unhappy, living with his single mother. Which is simply not true. Are you suggesting all widow's sons are unhappy and not well-adjusted? What about children raised by single fathers?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 05:59 PM
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I think every country should maintain a standing army. :) Anyway, I'm glad women and men have - theoretically - equal rights and I would never want to be treated like many Muslim wives or daughters are treated. Sorry, but I think both TODAY'S feminism and many guys from manosphere, who are "red-pilled" focus too much on one gender's well-being.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 05:40 PM
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Are you just telling me that suffragettes fought for nothing?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 05:34 PM
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When women had no rights like men did. When they couldn't vote, own a house, keep children after divorce (still happens in Muslim countries), travel alone, when their word wasn't equal to a man's word. You may say it was a long time ago and even then women were protected and worshipped by most men. Still, that wasn't what women wanted. I am not saying women are equipped to do everything men do. But when it comes to personal freedom or the right to choose authorities, or the right to your own chi…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 05:24 PM
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Not always. Only if they are both loving, caring and respectful for not only the child, but also for each other.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 04:41 PM
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Women fought for their rights. They gained them. And then they started oppressing men. Now men fight for their rights. They will gain them. And they will start oppressing women once again. We, humans, go from one extremity to the other. The same is with black people. Gay men and lesbians. The working class. Children - once treated as property, now untouchable. Animals! At first there is want to help the oppressed. Then common sense and morality lose, and those who were once subject to oppression…
/r/MensRights21/04/17 04:06 PM
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Maybe we should fight for all people's rights to be equally and decently treated?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 03:31 PM
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I suppose this is another single mother who tries her best to raise her beloved child. I don't know if you, men, could agree that a woman is able to raise a happy, successful man. But maybe you could agree she is at least able to raise a happy, moral human being. :)
/r/MensRights21/04/17 03:29 PM
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Are you suggesting a mother is incapable of raising a boy? Would you say the same about a man raising his daughter by himself?
/r/MensRights21/04/17 03:25 PM
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Does she laught at him? Or does she simply tell him to smile for the camera? Circumcision of both males and females is sick, but I think this woman was just a simpleton, not a child abuser.
/r/MensRights21/04/17 01:22 PM
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I have no idea how such a person would be judged. Really. How long does PTSD last? Is it curable? PND may last long, but in most cases it doesn't and I don't think any woman would be excused if she murdered her child weeks or months after birth. There is also another explanation: I think right after birth a woman might be in a shock. I don't know if there is a name for it in English (sorry, it's my second language). In this case a woman wouldn't be a threat to her child once the shock is over. I…
/r/MensRights20/04/17 10:23 PM
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Ha ha. The same could be said about soldiers coming back from missions. And every person who experienced terrible stress. Post natal depression is a fact. Yet the only reasonable thing to do is to help a woman survive these first crucial months, instead of treating her like a potential murderer. :)
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:56 PM
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She IS going to jail. But that's not the point. I think there is a difference between an attempt of murder with cold blood and because of PTSD or post natal depression. Every case is different. I have a notion that you only mentioned this case because the accused person is a woman. Sometimes a woman does nothing to her child but she is aware she needs special treatment due to pnd. This doesn't mean that she would be dangerous to her future children. But like I said, I don't know if in THAT case …
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:53 PM
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Most women take a good care of their children, thank you very much. But support is always helpful and beneficial for both a new mom and a a baby.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:41 PM
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Don't be ridiculous. Women who have a postpartum depression are not plain murderers. I'm not saying this is the case, I don't know that girl, but if she did it right after birth, chances are, she wasn't thinking clearly. Jesus, does anyone who provides you with a logical explanation, meets with such an emotional, unfair treatment?
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:38 PM
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I have no idea. If she is surrounded by helpful people, chances are she won't get crazy like that. Read about postpartum depression.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:23 PM
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Not every woman has postpartum depression. Besides every new mother should be helped by her family, not left alone.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:21 PM
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I agree that if a parent is a user, abuser or neglects his/her kids, they should be removed from the house. (That's the only justifiable reason for such an action.) Actually I'm surprised that social services didn't take your wife's cousin's kids away.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 09:08 PM
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Thank you. Do you think these programs are good and should be maintained?
/r/MensRights20/04/17 07:37 PM
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Whoa! How many American soldiers NOWADAYS fight for their country? How many have to defend the borders of USA against an enemy army?
/r/MensRights20/04/17 05:54 PM
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I see a guy who wrote about post natal depression was heavily downvoted. Well, guys, I think you fail to realise how common this is. I am not saying this girl should be excused. I am saying that right after birth a woman may behave like a monster due to hormonal imbalance and postpartum depression. There are more such cases than you may think. I don't know if this girl should regain custody of her son. PP goes away, it's not a steady mental illness. You may fume with rage but if you want to judg…
/r/MensRights20/04/17 05:35 PM
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I think a child benefits greatly from having more than one loving carer. Therefore a single mother should find friends or ask her family for help.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 04:04 PM
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Many married women have to work too. So a child is taken care of by either a relative (grandparents mainly, I think) or a daycare worker.
/r/MensRights20/04/17 03:51 PM
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Women should either learn how to fight or not start fights (at least with men). If this girl attacked people, she got what she deserved. Some may argue she shouldn't have been punched straight in her face but I think as a female thug she should be proud for being treated like equal. I would be - if I were a female thug. I don't think I am... but who knows, maybe one day I will be? ;)
/r/MensRights20/04/17 02:02 AM
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So what is welfare for?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 07:33 PM
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"Boys who grow up fatherless are far less likely to succeed academically & economically and far more likely to end up involved in crime & possibly imprisoned." I wonder if it is a causation or a correlation. Maybe SOME single mothers are terribly ill equipped to raise children and they spoil the stats?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 07:32 PM
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I don't understand the first sentence.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 07:18 PM
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I think I am bit confused. Are you suggesting it would be better if single mothers had more children?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 07:01 PM
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That's what I assume, since men died in wars in great numbers. Don't you think our times are the safest in the history of mankind?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:52 PM
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Even if the father is a good, caring parent?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:51 PM
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I meant, it's preserved unless it's not safe for a child.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:43 PM
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Sure, but you can find a father figure elsewhere: in your extended family, among friends of the family, teachers, etc. Lots of women raised children alone in the history of mankind, the difference is, they were usually widows, not never-married women like today.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:43 PM
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Well, I hope this madness will eventually cease to exist.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:40 PM
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Could you name a few such programs? (If you know them, of course.) Isn't welfare for the poor in general?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:39 PM
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Elaborate, please.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:38 PM
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Aren't these programs helpful?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:38 PM
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I don't know. I think most of them wouldn't care.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:37 PM
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I didn't say that an unwed mother = a single mother. A cohabiting mother is not single, that's for sure. What I said is: Poles don't care about the teachings of the Church, which results in the number of out-of-wedlock births. So if they tolerate cohabitation, why would they be against women who raise children totally on their own? What did your Polish acquaintances tell you? :)
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:36 PM
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Why do you know how many children raised by single mothers and in 2-parent households are happy or unhappy? If a parent is good and loving, chances are, a child will be fine.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:33 PM
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Yes, but that's the point: sometimes a parent (usually a male) abandones the child before it is born. So the woman is left with a child. I think in every civilised country a biological family is preserved, so when both parents fail, the extended family has to step in.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:02 PM
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Some single mothers I encountered on the Web say American welfare isn't too generous and there is a stigma attached to utilizing it.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 06:00 PM
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Poles are proud pseudoCatholics. We baptize our children but don't care much about the Church's teachings. There are 20 % out-of-wedlock births in Poland (one of them is my child ;)). Why do you think Poles have a negative attitude towards single mothers?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 05:58 PM
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Well, I disapprove of staying on welfare for a lifetime (unless you are disabled and unable to work ever), but I don't think leaving the poor and their children to themselves is a good thing either.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 05:55 PM
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Do you think going on welfare is wrong?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 05:07 PM
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Holly crap, why the hell do you do that??? What are you, a Semitic tribe wandering through a f...ing desert? Seventy-seven percent...
/r/MensRights19/04/17 05:04 PM
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How many white non-Jewish American boys are circumcised? (Just curious...)
/r/MensRights19/04/17 04:27 PM
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Yes, she is a total misfit, but she couldn't care less. She and Tyler are black sheep, outcasts, who rejected norms and "constructs" the society tried to impose on them.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 04:26 PM
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I absolutely love films with strong, badass female characters. I never liked all those feeble damsels in distress from old movies who were so pathetically helpless when their men were beaten by other men. A woman should support her guy and stand by him, unless he does something vicious. On the other hand, I hate how modern Hollywood depicts women as better than guys. Wiser, more courageous, more virtuous. We aren't better or worse. We are humans. "Mad Max" rocked, though. But it was just a fanta…
/r/MensRights19/04/17 04:24 PM
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Jesus, that's the scene I remember most of all this movie (frankly, I barely watched it, as it was just one of many silly heroe-movies). Imagine a woman coming to her little son's birthday and being kicked out by her ex for not paying child support. That would be cruel, woudn't it? So why can a man be treated that way?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 04:19 PM
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A question for you: Do you think mothers bond with both sons and daughters equally? Did your own mothers treat you and your opposite gender siblings equally?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:58 PM
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A false accusation is a false accusation, no matter what gender the accused person is. Was she truly not guilty? None of us can know for sure. We know only what media tell us. But we are supposed to consider a person not guilty until the guilt was proven.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:56 PM
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So you are just like all those women who falsely accuse men of rape.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:54 PM
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What a hideous practice. I hope you'll get rid of it.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:50 PM
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As a female I totally agree. Females can do a good job in police, like questioning rape victims or children who report a crime, but they should never be allowed to go on streets unless there is a shortage of males officers. Well, perhaps they (females) could write a ticket for a driver who breaks the law. And that's it. I love films about strong, empowered women who beat the shit out of males, but I realise these are just fantasy. The reality is, if a female wants to be treated equally, she shou…
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:41 PM
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Of course. I read that female killers resort to using weapon more often than men. That's only natural. You have to be effective whatever you do, so female cops should use guns more often.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:38 PM
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As a Polish woman I never understood why circumcision of males is so popular among seemingly civilised nations. There's no need to do it now to boys, their genitals can be kept clean without that surgery.
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:26 PM
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I am a woman and I greatly enjoyed the movie. To me it was mainly about seeking fullfillment in the world ruled by consumerism. Tyler Durden was a somewhat appaling character but at least he fought with the system (reminds me of the movie "Twelve monkeys"), which stirred my emotions greatly. I don't know how I would find the movie now, in my 30s, but I sure hope to watch it once again one day. What do you guys think of the female character?
/r/MensRights19/04/17 03:23 PM
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All American women?
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