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Kentucky_Supreme/r/seduction22/03/20 09:49 PM
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I was never full blown red pill lol. I don't even follow this sub. You're just confirming what I figured this sub was all about. Arguing over what a red herring is is the epitome of red herring, lol. If you can't acknowledge facts of reality you're just as bad as someone that blindly follows anything to the extreme.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 12:17 AM
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You haven't answered anything. All you're doing is going on a rant and bringing up red herrings.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 11:31 PM
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So if it's not hypergamy then what is it?
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 11:23 PM
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"wildly throwing it around"? Wtf lol. It was a very straightforward question.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 11:15 PM
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Not surprised by this response at all. Lol.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 10:39 PM
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Red pill says that is evidence of hypergamy. If an anti red pillar says that hypergamy doesn't exist, then what other explanation do they have? That's all I'm asking.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 10:14 PM
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Reinforcing anti red pill views is what would be accomplished.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 10:07 PM
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If you can't even question things in here then what's the point of the sub? Something I would ask is how would you explain the numbers from dating apps? (The 80/20 thing from OKC, and the tinder stuff where women only like about 5% of men's profiles). If that's not hypergamy then what's another explanation? (Other than calling me names, lol).
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 10:01 PM
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Exactly. I agree with certain red pill things but I'm not "full blown red pill worshipping rollo tomassi as a god". It would be interesting to see some of the view points in this sub but I bet most people in here are so extreme they can't even have the conversation. That's just a problem across all of reddit, though.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 09:56 PM
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Not surprised at all. I've noticed you can't really discuss these topics anywhere because people are way too sensitive and get triggered over words. Even in purplepilldebate, I got banned because I was "abusing the block function" when I would only block people if they were obviously trolling and calling me names. That didn't matter according to whichever jackass mod made the decision. I guess I'm just supposed to let people call me names and troll me without logically addressing any of my point…
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 09:53 PM
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I just found this sub. Seems like a full blown anti-red pill circlejerk. Just based on what I've seen glancing at different posts. Edit: Oh look. A critique of the sub is getting down voted and swept under the rug because it's not an echo. I'm shocked. Lol. That's the problem with reddit. The voting system and mods ensure that it's nothing but echo chambers. No need to address any points with actual refutations when you can just down vote and/or ban them.
/r/ExRedPill13/09/22 08:52 PM
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That is so fucking ridiculous, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:58 AM
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I saw a profile the other day of a woman claiming to be a mother of 7 kids. And she was only 27. She still probably gets 10x as many matches as ANY guy would get, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 03:47 AM
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I haven't disrespected you in any way and now you're resorting to ad hominem bullshit, lol. Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:49 AM
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Defending blatant misandry. Mind blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:41 AM
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Oh, misandry. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:26 AM
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Then explain the numbers on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 02:17 AM
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I don't see how Tinder IRL would be any better than the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 10:57 PM
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I don't think the current trend is slowing down. Which points to fewer and fewer men being "good enough" and more and more women obsessed with height and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:24 PM
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Notice how this is framed as some sort of "fun experiment" but if a guy does something similar then he's an "asshole" and gets labeled "the tinder swindler" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 05:22 PM
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But only if a man does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 04:15 PM
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Your parents sound hardcore RP AF. Though I guess that's just how it is for most Asian countries. I was dating this one Indian girl that I met on hinge. We're both in our early 30s. She recently told me that her mother keeps hounding her about getting married "soon". Also, that is insane about your brother. Sounds like he's completely busted his ass throughout his life and even manages to stay in shape but that's still not good enough for the average plain Jane of the west. I think that illustra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:58 PM
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Not only that but you're probably familiar with the OKC study. Women rated 80% of men "below average" in attractiveness and 20% above. That basically says that women's perception of "average" is heavily skewed. A guy has to be at the 80th percentile just to be considered "average". That's exactly why so many women complain that their objectively equal male counterparts aren't good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:19 PM
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You're forgetting that each of those two matches has 500 dudes trying to talk them. Good luck being the 1 out of 500 that's chosen to even consider meeting in person. You're lucky if you get ghosted because at least that means they sent you at least one message at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:08 PM
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Pffft. Please. They have GameShark, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 11:01 PM
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It would literally just be this: https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw INSTANT incel, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:44 PM
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There's way more men than women on the app. A lot of guys get desperate for matches and just swipe right on every woman trying to fight these numbers: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 I think it's a combination of the horrible man/woman ratio, the fact that guys are thirstier (testosterone), and the "nobody's good enough" mentality women are encouraged to have. Not that women are more attractive. But it is hilarious how oblivious some women are. You can tell they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 10:01 PM
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I don't know. I just remember some MGTOW guy on YouTube talking about PNDing women in a random video I saw. So it seemed like that's what they were all about. Going their own way but only entertaining women for short term sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:27 PM
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That sounds more like MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:20 PM
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I guess it would be to make yourself as attractive as possible so that you have more options in dating and life in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 08:11 PM
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And women in those mixed gender hobby groups are almost never single.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:31 PM
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Yup. I've got two former friends that I've known since elementary school that totally disappeared as soon as they met their current partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:29 PM
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I don't think people realize all of the stars that have to be aligned just for a guy to have an opportunity. Groups like that are usually mostly guys (like you said). Out of the women that are there, they have to be single, looking to date, AND interested in "you". If Chad decides to show up, all of that evaporates into thin air. And don't forget it's "creepy" if a guy goes to these groups and wants to meet a woman there. So you have that bullshit working against you as well. It literally feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:19 PM
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Exactly. All the fuck people from work ever want to do is drink. Some of us never became obsessed with alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:09 PM
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Exactly. I think it's just the gynocentric social order at work. Society doesn't like to see a guy win unless he's filthy rich. And often times it's only "creepy" if a guy expresses interest in a younger woman and not if the woman expressed interest in the older guy. So as long as the woman likes him back it's magically no longer "creepy" anymore. Weird how that works. I'm 33 and matched with a 21 year old on hinge not too long ago. We only talked for a little bit. We probably would've at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:08 PM
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Be tall, flash money on social media, be in good shape, smoke and drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:55 PM
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But what if he's "confident, just being himself, and took a shower"? You spam him with nudes right? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:32 AM
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I guess? I wasn't even originally responding to you, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:55 AM
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Yeah, that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:47 AM
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That's too straightforward for women. Their heads would explode.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:33 AM
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I've thought about just telling them I collect cans on the side of the road for a living. Or something butt ass stupid like that, lol. The last thing I want to talk about is the shit I've been doing for 40+ hours in the past week. Tell me about a cool movie you recently saw. Tell me a conspiracy theory. Fucking anything but "work".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:17 AM
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There's zero cultural push for women to give clearer green lights That's where the rubber meets the road. Instead of initiating that cultural push, it's all put on men to make the move. If she likes him, good. If not, then he's a "creepy weirdo that can't pickup on basic social cues. And it's all his fault for not reading them perfectly." The woman did nothing wrong and can't possibly improve because she's already perfect purely because she's a woman. That's the world we're currently living in.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:05 AM
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It's the same shit when they say they want someone "ambitious". It's just a code word for money that sounds less superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:55 AM
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And I bet those are all things you’ve done when not flirting. Pretty sure we're just supposed to kayfabe that part and read their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:22 AM
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Would not touch her. I might already be a "creep" just for looking at her for a little too long, lol. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:11 AM
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"how tall is he?" Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:10 AM
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Plenty of guys have said more than "hey" and never got a response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:22 PM
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Your first mistake is assuming they're going to read your message. Your second mistake is assuming that they're going to respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:21 PM
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To see if they know something I don't. I think that's why pretty much anyone asks a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:07 PM
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I've never known anyone that was purely about one single interest/hobby. Sounds like the woman has main character syndrome and views guys as side characters in the movie, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:02 PM
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He's a 6'-4" athlete that plays in the NFL. "Hey" = interesting, charming, witty, intelligent, confident, good sense of humor, exciting, we totally have chemistry, etc. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 10:44 PM
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Exactly. I don't know how many times I've asked that question and always get a BS answer. Everyone complains about "boring" messages and yet I've never been shown an example of an "exciting" message.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:51 PM
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And don't forget "free spirited, constantly traveling/on vacation type." (Aka, $$$$$) lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 09:26 PM
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Social media and dating apps are indeed equal if not more superficial than a night club like that. It's just digital bars and clubs now, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:36 AM
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I don't really have a social circle. Had to move to another city for a job. And all the fuck people seem to want to do is smoke and drink. I don't do either one. I've just been trying the stupid dating apps. They work every now and then but it's very few and far in between. If there were a better way I would be all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:41 AM
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They typically do, yes. I don't remember saying "all".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:38 AM
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I can see what you're saying but as superficial as everything is these days, it's just a shit show no matter how you slice it. If the metaverse becomes popular, I could see every woman with a crowd of 30-50 dudes surrounding her at all times, lol. They'll be inundated with attention just like now. Except it'll be in digital space.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:36 AM
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How is Danny DeVito's Chris Hemsworth avatar going to help him IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:22 AM
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Well yeah, that's the problem. If they find you attractive they don't call you a creep but how else are you supposed to find out if they're interested? Women don't seem to understand that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:19 AM
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VR is cool but "more internet" is not the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:17 AM
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I never said they will approach me. And yeah, I see it all over the internet that guys have to approach but I never see it happen IRL. I've seen bombshells at the grocery store or at the park. By themselves. And everyone just ignores them. Plus women seem overly sensitive about it. Anytime I've heard a woman talk about random guys trying to approach them, they almost always speak negatively about them (creep, weirdo, shame, shame, shame, etc.) Which aligns perfectly with these numbers: https://t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:14 AM
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That says "shaming". Not "rejecting".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 12:04 AM
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Lol, not sure who said that. A rejection is just a rejection. I wouldn't say it's nice or mean. It's just kind of neutral. "Sorry I'm not looking to date right now" is different from "fuck off, creep." Right? I just had to explain this to another woman earlier today. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:43 PM
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Yup. I've noticed the ones far away are usually the ones that talk. Weird how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:34 PM
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Hell no. I didn't say I was a Gigachad, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:33 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:32 PM
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I mean, I've only improved myself over the past 10 years and I don't see any difference in the attention I get now compared to myself 10 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:26 PM
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Based on my observations, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:20 PM
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I think hinge's location thing is broken. It shows me women that are 2 HOURS away, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:19 PM
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Whoever she specifically chooses and allows to show interest in her without shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:07 PM
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As expected, no quote. Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:16 PM
4

Please quote where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:10 PM
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Who said go up to a woman and say "wanna fuck?"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 10:04 PM
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Yeah, you somehow get women by never acting on your desires. That old gag.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 09:59 PM
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Good for you. One out of literal billions doesn't really do much for your argument, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:51 PM
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Nowhere is "appropriate" if the woman isn't interested. Everywhere is "appropriate" of the woman is interested in a guy. That's what you seem to miss. "Women don't go to gyms to meet guys they go to exercise, they don't go to bars to meet guys they go to hang out with friends, they don't go to church to meet guys they go to worship, etc. etc." You can say that about literally anything. The bottom line is that it's only "appropriate" if the woman wanted the guy to approach her. That's the primary…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:31 PM
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To be fair, any solid point a guy makes in here is often times responded to with name calling (incel, misogynist, etc.) Insinuating that they're wrong. And with no reasoning to back it up. So it's extremely entertaining to see that they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about in regards to something they have absolutely NO experience with (modern dating as a heterosexual man) and yet they mock and ridicule guys that DO have first hand experience. Of course, some women are based and ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 08:12 PM
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Nice chat but I've got an orgy with 15 women to get to. I left nice comments on their IG photos and now they're blowing up my phone and won't leave me alone. They haven't even seen my eyebrows yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:52 PM
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I've seen plenty of guys on Reddit asking where to go to meet women and there's almost always responses accusing him of being a "creep" and "bothering" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:47 PM
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Just shows how far removed they are from a guy's experience. She is totally oblivious. She basically says Be nice. Following #1 doesn't entitle you to anything. Practice normal hygiene. (Should I breathe? And maybe eat food when I get hungry too? Jesus fucking Christ lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:41 PM
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This should be good. The majority of women in here probably actually believe they would have no problems in dating if they were born a man, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 07:26 PM
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Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:56 PM
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You're lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:55 PM
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Oh, so what I've been explaining to you this entire time, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:49 PM
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Umm. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:47 PM
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Aside from all of your mental gymnastics, what question was that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:34 PM
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I never fucking said it was, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:31 PM
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It doesn't seem like you understand the meanings of objective and subjective and how they play into the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:18 PM
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She could still be giving those signs because her boyfriend is in the same room or something. And Chad can still ignore them without being called out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:14 PM
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??? Wtf. I never said rejecting = shaming. A woman can reject a guy simply by saying "sorry, I'm not looking to date right now." Or the classic "I have a boyfriend". Those two examples don't frame the guy as if he's being weird and/or doing something wrong. Saying that a guy is "creepy" is basically calling his morals and mental health into question simply because she doesn't find him attractive. There is a clear difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:53 PM
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No, that IS the point. You originally said you've never heard of guys being shamed for their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:46 PM
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And if Gigachad ignores social cues it's because he's "confident and dominant" right? Lol. 9 times out of 10 it's merely the woman's opinion and not the guy's behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:42 PM
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The guy wouldn't be showing interest in the woman if he wasn't heterosexual. Shaming the guy for it is one of the most common forms of rejection that women use today. If not THE most common form.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:31 PM
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Except that's an example of a guy being shamed for his sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:19 PM
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The point is that "creepy" is merely subjective and not objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:03 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:00 PM
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??? That's kind of exactly the point, lol. He didn't objectively do anything wrong but will still be shamed for it if the woman feels like doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:59 PM
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I very clearly said "when he didn't actually do anything creepy" and your brain refuses to acknowledge that part. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:52 PM
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Oh yeah, I remember them saying that. There's some guys that talk shit publicly but in the DMs they're Sir Simpsalot the White Knight lol. So fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:50 PM
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You've never seen a woman call a guy a "creep" when he didn't actually do anything creepy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:41 PM
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So true. I noticed that growing up. When you're a little kid, sex is "bad". When you get a little older, you get teased and made fun of for liking a girl. But by your late teens (high school) you better be Gigachad thundercock or else you're a "loser". But also, if you find women sexually attractive and want to meet them and date them, that's "creepy". And if you don't meet women regularly and have a consistent love/sex life, then you're an "incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:27 PM
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Gynocentric social order.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 03:12 PM
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Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:45 PM
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As people place more and more value on social media I think it's becoming almost mandatory. I think we've already passed the point where social media is more significant than real life. There was this one girl I was talking to on Hinge for a little bit. We had exchanged a few messages and then I asked for her number. She asked if we could just exchange IG instead and I said sure (because why the hell now, right?) After I sent her my IG, she just unmatched me. I guess because I don't have a Rolex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 02:44 PM
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Oh look. Ad hominem and no actual response/refutation. On PPD of all places. I'm shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:22 PM
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You're acting like teenagers don't already know everything and will listen to everything their parents tell them, lol. I can speak facts and common sense to her until I'm blue in the face but she'll most likely be too obsessed with chasing social validation and Gigachad to see straight or think clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:18 PM
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Lol. Whatever. You get the point. You people split hairs over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:22 AM
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Then I'd be wondering how in the hell he seems to be doing so well being 5" below average. I guess that's like being 5'-4" here in the USA. Looks like the average in the states is 5'-9".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:12 AM
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I agree except the man only has relationship options within his sexual options. So his relationship options aren't nearly as abundant as a woman's sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:00 AM
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She's going to date whoever she wants. What can a father do? If he attempts to step in, isn't that the "patriarchy trying to keep a sister down"? Also it's very possible that she would become so brainwashed by social media that no guy would be good enough for her. Much like what's already happening today lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 12:57 AM
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You people split hairs over literally anything, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 09:24 PM
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Because I'm not ugly and I don't date ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 08:39 PM
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She won't be ugly. That's for damn sure. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:53 PM
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I go to the park for pull ups, dips, and walking. I use dumbbells at home for arms, back, and legs. I'm not "completely jacked" or anything but I've been told you can tell I work out. So whatever that means, lol. I need to get better with following a consistent routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:03 PM
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It doesn't help you beat them necessarily but it helps you compete with them. Also, I thought 5'-10" was average height? I wouldn't say it's purely my skin color. I've just seen that white guys do better on dating apps statistically. Not that they completely dominate. I've gotten dates from dating apps and stuff but they're just VERY few and far in between. I've seen plenty of guys that look similar to me with decently attractive women. Some even chubbier or shorter than me. Although how they me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:30 PM
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But regardless, you're not in the percentage of the population that can be beat. Which helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:13 PM
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So you're saying if a non-white guy showed up he would get laid like a rockstar? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:06 PM
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Down play it all you want. It's still a factor that is working in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 05:02 PM
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Whatever, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:44 PM
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Didn't you say you're a tall white dude in another comment? If that's the case then yeah, dating apps probably won't be an issue for you. I occasionally get matches on hinge but getting a conversation with one of them is like pulling teeth. Goldfish have longer attention spans. Tinder is just totally dead. Barely ever get a match on there and they're even less likely to talk than on hinge. I've met friends of friends a few times but they never show interest. Maybe they would make small talk with…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:44 PM
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I don't have kids but if I ever had a son, I can only imagine what a superficial cluster fuck of a shit show he would have to deal with. If I had a daughter I would be worried about her becoming a single mom and/or starting an OF lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:14 PM
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Jesus. I'm not reading all that. I swear this sub has the most long-winded people I've ever seen on the internet, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:07 PM
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Yeah, I've heard that before and that seems to be what's going on. Sometimes on dating apps I'll see some women that show themselves doing deadlifts and showing their biceps in their photos and I'm just like wtf, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:06 PM
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Weird because I never see guys approaching women in public environments. People only seem to talk if they already know each other. And work and groups are always sausage fests. Dating apps are a total shit show in general for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:50 PM
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Society doesn't condemn paternity fraud either. It's not even illegal. Guys are often shamed for not "stepping up" and raising another man's kid. If "adoring" women works so well then where does the saying about nice guys finishing last come from? The price of sex is low for Chad and Tyrone. It's rare to qualify for overblown standards but as long as they're met, the guy doesn't have to commit. He wins just for existing. Whereas back in the day, he would've had to commit (by societal rules, at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:41 PM
0

And where do you meet all of these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:13 PM
2

It's not like he's going to get pregnant and trick the wife into raising someone else's kid. Also, isn't it usually the woman declining the husband's advances after marriage because she's "too tired" or something like that? I also don't see how significantly lowering the price of sex is supposed to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:01 PM
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The price of sex used to be commitment at the level of marriage, right? It used to be shameful not to be a virgin on the wedding night. But women didn't like that. So here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 02:33 PM
1

All I can say is to do some research. On divorce, who initiates divorce, and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:38 PM
1

Because everyone here knows she's not going to be dating homeless dudes, lol. There is a minimum amount. I'm not saying she needs the guy to be filthy rich but there IS a minimum amount. It's "okay". My point is that it factors in to the quantity of guys that she will consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:29 PM
1

Sounds like you've convinced yourself that you already have all the answers. And yet, she's still single. Don't listen to any of us then, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:12 PM
1

You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. Every criteria she needs the guy to meet cuts her options in half. If not more. I'm not sure which proportion of men are 6ft or taller but it's sure as hell less than half. She might claim money is no issue but I assure you there is a minimum amount that she will tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 11:01 PM
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Can confirm pretty much every woman claims to have had a crazy, toxic, abusive ex. I've also noticed they always seem to frame themselves as a leaf in the wind when it comes to their dating history. As if they had no say in the matter or didn't make any decisions. As if everything just "happens" to them on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:55 PM
1

Lol. It's not a matter of which standards are "allowed". Being entitled to something doesn't make it more abundant. The majority of men are under 6ft tall. Relaxing the height standard alone would raise the number of potential candidates exponentially. How much money does he have to make?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:41 PM
1

So she wants a guy that's over 6ft tall, lol. Classic. Tell her to fill out the female delusion calculator. See what she gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:34 PM
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I don't know her. I don't know anything about her standards. I just don't see why else a woman would have a hard time meeting a guy in these modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:20 PM
1

So true. A lot of women think merely being skinny equates to "beauty".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:12 PM
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A lot of women think beauty is merely being skinny. Which is not true at all. So there's that. She's probably average. It sounds like her standards are just unrealistic. Which is the most common reason a woman "can't meet anyone". Meanwhile If she puts a selfie on a dating app, every dude within a 20 mile radius blows up her phone like she's the last woman on earth, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:11 PM
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Depends how strong the urge is to move, I guess. You could also potentially rent the house out after it's yours and after you move away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 10:04 PM
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I would say average so 5 but +1 for being in decent shape. So 6. Minus 2 points for each kid she has (if any at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:56 PM
2

I would imagine the majority would want a family with kids. If some are happy waiting for Bruce Wayne, let them wait all they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:53 PM
1

So use an app where they can only talk to you if you match. Match with a guy and then STOP SWIPING. Talk to him. Is he cool? Arrange a meeting. If not, rinse, repeat. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:49 PM
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Assuming you're a woman, I don't know how in the hell you can possibly get hung up on one guy. Put a selfie on a dating app and every dude within a 20 mile radius blows up your phone. Problem solved. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 09:43 PM
1

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:19 PM
1

"cultivate an active social life" lol. And where is he supposed to go to do all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 08:10 PM
1

So let's just go with average man looking for average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:35 PM
1

Ok? So where/how is a guy supposed to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:40 PM
5

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:37 PM
1

Of course they do. Just like social media. Many women's social media accounts have their face and body front and center.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 06:07 PM
1

You implied it. If women are "only superficial on tinder" then it logically follows that they aren't superficial IRL. Ergo guys that look less than perfect have more of a chance. If that's not what you meant, then now's your chance to clarify.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:37 PM
1

Then how is there a market for tinder? If guys have a better chance IRL and it's "so easy" IRL, why would any of them ever even consider downloading tinder? Or any dating app for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:24 PM
1

So being on tinder makes them superficial? How does that disappear when they look up from their phones? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:33 PM
2

I'm saying that would improve things in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:25 PM
2

Since when are we talking about women "I'm" interested in? Lol. Women don't have to seek anything. It falls into their lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:12 PM
2

Chat roulette doesn't take location into account. It's not hard to meet people IRL if you're a woman. Just like dating apps. Duh, every dude wants to talk to women, lol. If a guy approaches a woman IRL and she doesn't like how he looks then she'll just say he's a "creepy weirdo" and spin the situation like he's doing something wrong by trying to talk to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:53 PM
1

To meet people she wouldn't meet otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:47 PM
1

As if they talk to "all" of their matches as it is? Lol. At least they wouldn't all be shooting for the same 10 GigaChads in their city.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:38 PM
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Some allow you to send a message with the "like". But what's stopping you from liking someone that might not be "perfect" in looks and getting to know them? Absolutely nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:27 PM
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You're completely ignoring the fact that people can talk to each other on dating apps. They could also arrange to meet each other in person. That's literally the entire point of the dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:21 PM
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The data from dating apps. Women clearly do not give a shit about a guy's personality unless they find him physically attractive first. And the vast majority of guys aren't "good enough" to pass that first hurdle. I think that's the main reason dating is a complete shit show now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 02:07 PM
0

If you're capable of "paying the field" as a 22 year old guy, then by all means. But good luck with that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:16 PM
1

Women are going to do it regardless of what I say. If there's guys that aren't "good enough" to find a woman that wants them naturally then I don't see what's bad about them having the option to pay for it if they want to. And it's not social skills. Women are notorious for chasing jerks. If they had social skills, people would actually like them, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:54 AM
1

???
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:41 AM
1

Except you can't turn it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:31 AM
1

It's whatever. If people enjoy it, fine but it's not my thing. Depends what kind. If it's just OF, maybe. If she's "physical" with her clients, hell no. Sure. Discourage. But if they do, I would remind them that they can't complain about women being objectified in society when they literally objectify themselves for a living. Maybe it could potentially be good? Porn is supposed to be the absolute "worst things ever" according to some people so what's the alternative? What are the guys supposed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:35 AM
1

I kind of just hear "I enjoy burning through as much money as possible as quickly as possible." Can't help but roll my eyes every time a woman says she likes to travel. I've seen it on so many dating app bios. It's right up there with "I like tacos, I'm fluent in sarcasm, I love the office, I love dogs, follow me on IG, etc. etc." Just seems like cliche bullshit that women love to copy and paste from social media. Like they're just a bunch of NPCs saying whatever sound bites will get them the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:41 PM
1

????
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:14 AM
1

???
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 03:13 AM
1

So stop caring what people think but live your life to score as much validation from strangers as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:47 AM
1

I think that's what Jordan Peterson is talking about when he speaks of "social dominance hierarchies".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:40 AM
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That's true. All of those tiktoks women make about how "all men cheat" prove it. Meanwhile they reject 90%+ of guys on dating apps. How in the hell are they all cheating if none of them are "good enough" to even talk to? Women are completely oblivious to that. Although the patriarchy bullshit is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 01:39 AM
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And I'll bet over half of those cases are merely taking whatever they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:40 PM
1

That's not true, lol. If it were easy, Why would anyone download a dating app if they're already meeting people and dating regularly and consistently? The fact that tinder users are mostly men proves that point because everyone knows women are playing on easy mode. They don't need dating apps so they use them significantly less. That's why the apps make way more money off of men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:57 PM
1

I said WHERE CAN THEY (the vast majority of men) GO to meet women easily if it's "so easy" to meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:38 PM
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I mean, cool for you. But that's like a 1 in 1000 chance. Not practical at all. And even so, it's an LDR. Which sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:23 PM
1

Yes it does. If it were easy for men to date, then tinder wouldn't be able to make millions of dollars off of their male users. If that's not true, then where can all of those men go to "easily" meet women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 03:20 PM
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I completely agree that dating apps are a total shit show, but what's the alternative? If a guy tries to cold approach these days the woman will most likely just say he's being "creepy and weird".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:42 PM
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I think you just pissed into the wind with that argument, lol. No not "everyone" has a lawn or a dog but a shit ton of people do. Thus the existence of a market for lawnmowers and dog food. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 01:34 PM
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"all" men definitely aren't on dating apps. Just like "all" men don't go to strip clubs, pay for OF, pay for prostitutes, etc. But it begs the question, how is there a market for any of those things if dating is "easy" for the vast majority of men? How are those MULTIMILLION dollar industries if Joe Schmoe can get sex any time he wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:57 AM
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I see what you're saying but I think that's also coming from a defensive mentality. They're basically saying if the woman isn't quick to sex after the guy has began investing in her (paying for dates, taking her places, etc.) then she is only trying to take advantage of him. She's only in it for the freebies and isn't actually interested in him romantically/sexually. That's how guys get played. Which is VERY easy for women to do these days. RP teaches to mitigate that stuff as much as possible. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:53 AM
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What do you mean exactly? I think fundamentally the red pill teaches to look for a flipped script. Meaning she's pursuing the guy rather than the typical guy chasing the girl. Women typically only pursue the highest value men and that's why the RP preaches money, muscles, game, and frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:59 AM
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Yeah, Tomato Tomahto, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:54 AM
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Of course you aren't going to figure out "everything" you want. You think about everything you "can". And also the things you can filter out quickly in the early stages of talking to someone. Also, I think quantity of dates isn't really a sensible metric. You can go on 3 dates with someone that are an hour long and you can go on 3 dates with someone else that each lasted 4 hours. There's a huge difference in time spent between those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:51 AM
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Then why do all dating apps tell this exact same story? https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 02:37 AM
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Stop and think about what you want and what you value in a partner. Stop blindly chasing height and money. Just like men need to stop blindly chasing tits and ass. Sure it's a plus but not necessarily indicative of "high quality". Of course you can never know for sure but, assuming you're trying to preserve your body count, you don't have to have sex with someone to evaluate certain qualities about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:49 AM
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She can still pursue and show interest without it purely being sexual. For example, the last girl I was seeing reached over and grabbed my hand to hold it whenever I would drive us somewhere. Stuff like that really pops up on my radar because women just don't do things like that if there's no genuine burning desire. Also, if we were just chilling on the couch/bed, she would be all over me trying to cuddle and stuff. Almost always initiating physicality but not necessarily sexual. Which, I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:42 AM
2

Except I'm probably not tall enough and don't make enough money for any of the women that the company is in contact with. Did you ever see that one matchmaker that uploaded a video to YouTube about why she quit her job? She was sick and tired of dealing with women's unrealistic standards. I forget her name but I think it went viral. It's a few years old now though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:49 PM
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Of course. One of the mods even called me an incel right before banking me but couldn't give me any reasoning behind it. Go fucking figure. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:47 PM
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Totally agreed. If guys could simply act like they've seen a pair of tits before, I think that alone would be enough to move the needle, so to speak. But nope. Let's follow them by the fucking millions on IG and throw millions of hard earned dollars at them on OF just for existing, lol. If only they could simply have standards beyond a tight wet hole. What's ridiculous is that there was even a post in this sub one time asking people to post pics of themselves. And even in here (with RP aware men…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:04 PM
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Most of those people are complete idiots that simply refuse to acknowledge reality. I got banned from those subs for simply saying how much easier women get matches on dating apps than guys do. That is a verifiable objective fact. But I guess they didn't like how it made them "feel". So it gets swept under the rug. I don't know how in the hell they can possibly expect to properly advise anyone if they can't acknowledge simple facts of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:53 PM
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Even the people that know me seem to have no idea about the type of woman that I like. Let alone randoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:42 PM
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They only want guys that they find physically attractive to be confident and approach them. If anyone else does it, they're "creepy weirdos". Also, I think only the bottom guys swipe right on every woman's profile. The majority of them only swipe right on about 50% of women if I remember correctly. But it's definitely the delusionally picky women and the extremely desperate guys that perpetuate the cycle and ruin it for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:38 PM
0

Nobody said perfect. But they're definitely easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:26 PM
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It just means they have no idea what the hell to say next. "Just be confident" is probably the number one cop out answer people use when asked about dating advice. Or maybe it's just the blue pill way of saying rules 1 and 2. If Chris Hemsworth and Danny DeVito both say "hello beautiful" to a woman as she walks by, which one is being confident and which one is being a creep?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 10:05 PM
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A lot of women delay the wall by simply taking care of themselves. It's not like men are asking you to make six figures, be a certain height, AND have a perfectly athletic body. You're playing on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:56 PM
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That's literally the experience of the vast majority of men. Nobody's tall enough or makes enough money and it's all their own fault for not "being better".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:47 PM
0

I don't think women are socially conditioned to be that way. I think it's just in their nature to not be straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:42 PM
1

Does that mean American guys typically ignore you? Or that they aren't nice/friendly? Also, sounds like you're in a big city if you've been approached multiple times by foreigners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:39 PM
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What country are you in? I've literally never heard of that. Where I'm at (the United States) it seems to be widely accepted that the man is supposed to initiate just about everything but if he tries to approach a woman and she's not interested she's extremely annoyed, bothered, and sensitive. The guy will often be framed as a "creepy weirdo" that's doing something wrong. However if she likes the guy, then it's interpreted as "confident, charming, etc.".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:19 PM
1

E, male. Everything else can come from relationships that aren't romantic/sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:25 PM
3

I think the answers might say more about the city/environment women are in rather than how attractive they are. I see attractive women on a practically daily basis just being out and about and I almost never see guys going up to them and trying to talk to them. Even if they're clearly by themselves. Meanwhile my sister would probably answer B just based on what she has said about guys trying to approach her and she's not a super model or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:58 PM
1

Are you saying men that don't approach women are stuck up??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:20 PM
1

Homeless people seem to find me approachable just fine, lol. And sure but it doesn't really count if they "have" to interact with you. That's not really indicative of any interest at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:15 PM
1

Weird to see all of the A and B answers. I see attractive women pretty regularly and nobody ever goes up and approaches them. Even if they're by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:53 PM
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Literally nobody ever talks to me unless they're asking for money or it's part of their job. If you're getting "pleasantries" that could be interpreted as them just trying to gauge interest. Like a light approach or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:45 PM
2

So women spend years crying about "equality this, equality that" and when they finally get it, now men aren't dominant enough. They want men to confidently lead in the bedroom but if he does anything she doesn't like it can easily become a #metoo case. Someone make this make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:17 PM
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It's called pure dumb luck. The last girl I was seeing gave me that treatment and I wasn't even committed to her. I'm only 5'-8" (below average). Of course that doesn't mean I can replicate that with "any woman I want" or something like that. It just seems like I got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:56 PM
3

Maybe not for you. But for some women they are. That's who they're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 06:01 AM
2

More what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 05:51 AM
3

They don't. That's why they're not paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:48 AM
4

I don't see a quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:18 AM
12

Sounds like you're talking about your own personal triggered interpretation about what I said and not actually what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:45 AM
11

Can you please quote where I said I was entitled to her body?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:41 AM
2

So I have to record myself having sex and send them to you now? Lol. Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:21 AM
2

Hey, if he's happy with that petri dish between your legs then good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:19 AM
2

Oh, so you're ran through, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:16 AM
3

Is that supposed to be some sort of accomplishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:13 AM
3

Whatever helps you sleep, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:09 AM
2

The more casual sex partners a woman has the more likely she is to not be satisfied in marriage. Ergo, the more likely she is to initiate a divorce. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:06 AM
8

I doubt he's angry. She's just not as valuable as he thought. She must not be all that special if all it takes is being tall and having a few tattoos. Just like she wouldn't value him as much if he wasn't at least a certain height or made a certain amount of money. she's not "angry". She just doesn't value him as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:59 PM
5

Who said I was mad? Who said the guy wanted both? Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:54 PM
6

??? Where was it said the guy "only wanted sex"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:50 PM
22

Because you already set your price with Chad and Tyrone. Nobody is going to want to pay more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:43 PM
1

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:39 PM
1

No, you're the one that's upset. Just defeated your entire argument with your own logic. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:36 PM
1

Whatever helps you sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:33 PM
1

Nigga please. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:31 PM
1

It sounds like you're talking about rejection at all when I'm talking about the proportion of men that women reject that's highly indicative of unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:22 PM
1

I wouldn't say I actively avoid them but I don't really talk to them unless they initiate or it's work related. I stay away from compliments and stuff like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 11:08 PM
2

You don't see a problem with women rejecting 95% of men? You must be a woman, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 06:12 PM
3

The algorithm doesn't force women to reject guys they actually like. The reject them through their own volition. Cold approaching would probably have very similar results and there's no algorithm IRL and there's also a mostly equal number of men and women IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:28 PM
5

It's not that they're rejected at all. It's the rate at which they're rejected. Like that article for example. 95%. That's kind of ridiculous lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:23 PM
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Data from pretty much any dating app tells this same story: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 And before you say that's only online, everyone knows that if a guy tries to cold approach he'll get rejected the majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:12 PM
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I think that's kind of accurate. To me blue pill seems to be that men are "never" good enough for women. Women are without sin, always tell the truth, and any critique of them at all is "misogyny". Women can both demand equality and play the woman card. Whichever is most convenient in the given moment. Women are severely overvalued, men are severely undervalued. Red pill is breaking kayfabe, so to speak. And calling out all of that bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:46 AM
1

You would probably need a society with a golden ratio of men to women. I think there would have to be more women than men since men are usually more thirsty. Also there couldn't be any sort of value system that overvalues women over men and brainwashes them into being entitled to Bruce Wayne and only Bruce Wayne. True equality would have to be pushed. Unlike the widely accepted and encouraged misandry under the guise of "equality and feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:37 AM
2

I understand what you're saying but I think there's too many guys being totally run by their monkey brains. Following IG wannabe models, spamming likes on dating apps and overall acting like they've never seen tits before.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 05:14 AM
6

I've never heard the claim that's that extreme. A "new Chad every week" isn't realistic at all. Women certainly could do that if they wanted to. VERY easily. But that doesn't mean they do. I think the claim goes more along the lines of women sleep around more than the "sugar, spice, and everything nice" narrative would have you believe. Women literally have a myriad of dicks at their fingertips 24/7 now. They're only human. I would say most women have had a few sneaky links that nobody ever knew…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:22 AM
1

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:49 AM
7

I agree to stop borderline worshipping tight wet holes but at the same time you can't just turn off a biological urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:38 AM
1

Wait 3 more years and see if you still want to be with him "forever".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:36 AM
1

Feel free to connect those points with logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 02:33 AM
1

Yeah, I'm "angry" because you can't answer a simple question, lol. Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:42 PM
3

Make a profile on a dating app as a guy. In the bio be extremely emotional and "vulnerable". Let us know how far that gets you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:32 PM
1

I don't give a flying, walking, swimming, or breakdancing fuck what "your" particular methods are. I'm speaking in a general sense. How do they figure out who the guys are by ghosting and ignoring so many of them? You're just talking in circles now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:30 PM
1

I highly suggest you read a book called The Rational Male by rollo tomassi. I never understood how women somehow want men to lead when women themselves ultimately decide when a relationship moves forward. It's like The woman is sitting in the driver's seat but she wants the man to drive the car while he's sitting in the passenger seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:27 PM
1

That would make sense if you weren't throwing back 95% of them and then ignoring the majority of the ones you don't. It's like over 99% of the work you're doing is for nought. It sounds like you're arguing that it's somehow faster to waste time or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 11:14 PM
1

I think that's the problem. You're cast net fishing when you can literally drop a single line anywhere you want and the fish are guaranteed to bite, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:44 PM
1

Then why continue matching if choice #2 is such a good option? The validation is required in order for her to make money. Models aside, there's plenty of other women that post half naked photos that don't make any money and continue to post them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:46 PM
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And we're back to square one. If someone passes the looks threshold, then why wouldn't she talk to him to further vet him? (Assuming that's her intention to begin with). And sure, maybe they're trying to make money but that money is not possible without the tons of men acting like they've never seen a pair of tits before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:37 PM
1

It kinda is. How do you "examine" them without talking to them? You don't really know much of anything about someone without talking to them but even so, women reject the vast majority of guys based solely on appearance and then proceed to claim that personality is what they look for. But even put of the guys they match with, they never speak to the majority of them. Which is weird. I don't know why you'd care about validation from strangers. Maybe ask one of the millions of half naked IG models…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:22 PM
1

Happens WAY too often to be attributed to accidental right swipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:12 PM
1

Well if finding women attractive makes a guy creepy, weird, etc. It doesn't sound like he can without being socially crucified.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:11 PM
1

It's not like this happened "once" to a random guy last year lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:09 PM
1

Sounds like the long way of saying you feel better the more people you're leading on or getting validation from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:09 PM
2

??? Women don't need "back ups of back ups of back ups". I highly doubt women put "that" much thought into swiping on dating apps, lol. Plus they're swiping almost everyone left anyway. I don't see how one more would make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:58 PM
1

The question still stands. Why match with anyone that's not Gigachad if they're only looking for Gigachad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:50 PM
1

And how do they know any of that without getting to know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:48 PM
1

So that you wouldn't look ridiculous after making an outrageous claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:47 PM
1

I'm talking about the ones that never say anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:44 PM
1

Then how would they ever meet anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:44 PM
1

Then why match with anyone other than Gigachad?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:43 PM
3

Why do women match with a guy on a dating app if they have no interest in talking to him at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:30 PM
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The only answer I've consistently seen is to hit the gym and chase money. 10 years ago I was a broke college student living with my parents. I've since graduated, got a job, and been exercising regularly and I still feel just as invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:06 PM
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It's so weird to me how women want guys to initiate everything but if the guy isn't her type, then he's framed as a "creepy weirdo that's doing something wrong". It's like they literally expect us to read their minds. When/where is it "okay" for a guy to show interest in a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:01 PM
1

Try it out and you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 05:22 AM
1

Now would be a good time to share those screenshots.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:08 PM
1

LOL. Let me know when someone believes that story. I've got some snake oil to sell them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 11:04 PM
1

Make a profile as a man on a dating app and try to talk to the women on the app. Then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:56 PM
1

That's easily explained away by the extreme scarcity most guys are in when it comes to dating. They could simply have viewed you as "better than nothing".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:41 PM
2

LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 10:25 PM
2

??? The skewed perception makes it easier for them to be used. It's the exact opposite of "protective" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 09:12 PM
1

Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:58 PM
1

Despite the war, I'm sure women in Russia can still summon a dick at will, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:51 PM
2

That might make sense if women's perception of "average" wasn't skewed so bad. But in reality, a lot of women are going to say they're dating down because of the plight of the modern single woman: "nobody's good enough". I think a lot of them believe they're dating down when in fact they're dating across or even up depending on how overblown their perception of their own value is by social media. Plus guys are usually dealing with scarcity in the modern dating landscape. On top of being underval…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:02 PM
2

Which begs the question, where can an average guy go to find a woman that hasn't eaten in a while when she can summon filet mignon via her pocket computer 25 hours a day, 8 days a week?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 07:49 PM
3

Are you trying to say that Danny DeVito magically becomes Gigachad if no other men are around?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:59 PM
3

Women love the bullshit and games that come with not being straightforward. So all of the guys are forced to "dance".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:57 PM
2

The closest thing would be the endless videos on TikTok from those women claiming that "all men cheat" and "men are trash" etc. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:53 PM
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Most women swore off tinder? Maybe I missed the news that day, lol. But if that's true, they probably swore it off because once again, "nobody's good enough". And I'm guessing you mean they swore off online dating all together? If that's the case then I don't see how that's going to help anything. Anytime I see a woman talk about a guy that tried to approach her in person. She almost always complains that he's a "creepy weirdo". And "almost always" aligns pretty well with "95%". I've still never…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:43 PM
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You don't understand percentages. As of 2021, women think 95% of men aren't "good enough". https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 It's 95% regardless of the total number men or women.you could have 100 men and 1000 women on the app. The most likely outcome will be that every woman only wants 5 of those guys. The other 95 never even had a chance because the women didn't have instant multiple orgasms within 3 seconds of seeing their profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:26 PM
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Except women don't care about the man/woman ratio. All they're thinking is "hot or not". If you took away the top 25% of men, the women would probably just delete the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:18 PM
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If women prefer "high value men that aren't needy and desperate" then how is he supposed to "chase" without appearing needy and desperate? What does chasing even technically mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:54 PM
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I would agree with that. Regardless of how many options he had, if he has options of similar attractiveness, I don't see why he would go for the one that constantly bullshits with him over one that is clearly interested and putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:47 PM
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I would think her male friends will be way better at vetting the guy than she will be. If they're married, good. But even better, her male family members. But I don't think guys are really respected anymore so nobody cares about their opinions. I would say maybe try double dates with a guy you're dating and your married friends. If the guy genuinely gets along with your friend then that's probably a good sign. After it's all said and done, ask them what they think about him. (Assuming you're pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:39 AM
1

That's probably the most asinine and farthest reach of a comparison I've seen in here so far, lol. The idea of sticking your dick in a petri dish and sloshing it around in a mixture of other men's semen is simply not appealing. (To most men, anyway lol). It's evolutionary psychology or something like that. Plus higher n counts mean a higher chance of STDs, paternity fraud, divorce initiated by the woman, etc. etc. And she's clearly not that special if everyone's had a turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:17 AM
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I've always wondered what would happen if every guy just dropped off of social media for a week or maybe a month. What would all of these twitch streamers, IG models, OF models, etc. do? I've heard some women have elemental breakdowns if their photo doesn't get enough likes on IG or some shit, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 06:03 AM
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If money was the main thing incentivising certain women then were they ever actually attracted to men at all? Or just money? Also, most women aren't swiping on dating apps for "emotional intelligence" and "personality" lol. Their biggest complaints seem to be that nobody's tall enough and nobody makes enough money. Even if the vast majority of men could magically become 6ft+ and have a million dollars appear in their bank account, all that would do is become the new "average". Which is the exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:56 AM
1

I don't see how that's related but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 10:12 PM
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Lol exactly. It would be labeled as "whining" and deleted for "incel content". But it's a woman therefore she simply "knows her worth". How so many people fail to see this blows my fucking mind to no end. At the same time we have this "equality" movement. What the actual fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:25 AM
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If "good behavior" is what got a positive result from women, chivalry would be back almost over night, lol. Women incentivise the bad behavior. Also, I'm assuming you're only speaking about insanely attractive guys since the others are most likely completely invisible to you. Good guys do exist. The fact that a lot of women complain that they can't seem to find them kind of supports how invisible they tend to be. That's what it seems to be going on just based on what I've observed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:19 AM
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Even if you only got half of the attention you did when you were 20, you would still probably have dudes blowing up your phone via a dating app as if you're the last woman on earth. Also, maybe fill out that female delusion calculator and see what it says. I know it seems like a joke but it's supposed to be based on actual census data. So maybe it'll give you an idea of what you're dealing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 02:11 AM
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Doomer beliefs? Lol. Bye troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 01:07 AM
1

??? You're saying women don't have to be interested to want to talk to you? How in the fuck is that supposed to work??? Lol. I'll just ignore your ad hominem bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 05:00 PM
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Sounds like "woo-woo" to me. Millions of guys have various interests in life and yet they're still completely invisible. And you didn't really answer the question of what makes them talk to you in the first place. If a guy has a good personality, cool. But what makes women care if they don't know him yet? What makes them look in his general direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 03:22 PM
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If you're nothing special to look at, only 5'-8", AND not even rich, then what makes them want to even talk to you in the first place? I'm the same height and I'm practically invisible IRL and barely get matches on dating apps. And even if I do, they almost never talk. If they do, they most likely ghost. It's like trying to carry on a conversation with a goldfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/22 06:16 AM
1

That just sounds like don't talk to anyone unless they talk to you first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:41 PM
1

So essentially go there, but just don't speak to any of the women, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:30 PM
1

Except a lot of women will say it's "creepy" if a guy joins pretty much any activity in an attempt to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 08:13 PM
14

Forgot where I saw this but some woman rejected a guy on the first date because "his shoes didn't match his belt".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 11:04 PM
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Nobody's tall enough or makes enough money. Just based on what I've seen/heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 04:48 AM
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(Shocked Pikachu)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 01:53 PM
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Literally nobody shames women for that, lol. A woman can have a laundry list of outrageous and unreasonable requirements and society will say that she simply "knows her worth". It's repeated over and over almost religiously on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:49 AM
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Based on what I've seen the issue is that the majority of guys are invisible to women. And women complain that nobody is tall enough or makes enough money. They tell men to "do better" but that's nonsensical. Even if men could simply become taller and make millions, all that would do is move the "average" up. Basically 6ft tall and having millions in the bank wouldn't be good enough because it would still be "average". Guys would have to stop borderline worshipping attractive women online and ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 05:44 AM
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For certain. They will avoid appearing superficial at all costs. If Chris Hemsworth says "hello beautiful" they will say it's "confident, flirty, witty, interesting, etc." If Danny DeVito says it, then it's borderline harassment and he's being "weird". And they will swear up and down that it was the "way" he said it or the way he was looking at them when he said it or some other vague behavioral bullshit. When we all know the real reason, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:57 PM
2

And doesn't almost every Disney princess end up with a filthy rich prince? Also, 50 shades of grey is hilarious. A 0.001% man goes for the most average of average woman on earth, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 11:26 PM
1

Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:31 PM
1

I'm wondering the same thing about the original post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:31 PM
5

"dirty" compliments = compliments from guys that she does not find attractive, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:24 PM
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Women objectify themselves. Just open Instagram, lol. Some also price themselves by requiring a salary minimum for men that she would consider dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 03:05 AM
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Exactly. Sure some guys will hide the shittiness but often times you can tell the guy is a piece of shit and the woman STILL chooses him. Then cries victim. Or if the guy hides it, then exposes himself, the woman often decides to stay with him. Then once again, cries victim. I guess those types of women would rather be with abusive guys than be with someone that's "boring" and causes zero drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:20 PM
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All that would do is move the average up. And we all know average isn't "good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:11 PM
1

LOL. Keep having fun on the CC.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:29 PM
1

I've heard Japan is that way with foreigners as well. Like some places have signs that straight up say "no foreigners allowed" lol. Sounds pretty rough. Also, are people generally more friendly over there? Over here I swear nobody talks to me at all unless they're asking for money, trying to sell me something, or they HAVE to as part of their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 06:47 PM
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Trust me, they are. I've shared that article before and it got down voted to oblivion, lol. It's completely mind numbing how even science and/or legitimate studies are so easily dismissed if people don't like them. They'll just tell themselves that it's made up if they don't like the results. Some people are just straight up children that never matured.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:34 PM
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I meant they're more easily triggered by the article.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:07 PM
5

Yeah I've seen that study a million times. Women seem to be WAY more sensitive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:43 PM
2

Yeah I've seen that study a million times. Women seem to be WAY more sensitive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:43 PM
1

Yeah I think it's pretty much this. Women already create brochures of their product/bodies on Instagram AND price themselves by having a minimum salary requirement for potential dates. I'm sure all of those women are also vehemently against "treating women as objects" as well, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:40 PM
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I love when this is shared because all of the women that get triggered by it are clearly ran through. Otherwise, why would they be triggered, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:34 PM
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I don't know about that. In the context of dating, I think it's just another bullshit trait women place into guys that they find physically attractive first and foremost. If Chris Hemsworth cold approaches, they will say it's "confident" and masculine, charming, witty, etc. etc. If Danny DeVito approaches in the exact same way, would women say those same things about him? Probably not. They would probably say he's bothering them, creepy, being weird, socially uncalibrated, etc. etc. Yet they beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:32 PM
3

I don't know about that. There's a few porn stars that I think are gorgeous but I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 09:23 PM
2

Jesus fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 11:46 PM
2

That's pretty mind numbing. I guess she just viewed herself as the center of the universe. Main character syndrome, if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:09 PM
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Kinda sounds like "just be confident" but then in the next breath "men are trash" and they're "creepy weirdos" if they want sex, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:02 PM
1

Hawaii sounds pretty awesome. Just saying. Lol. Do they like Americans in Korea? Was it really difficult living over there at first?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 05:45 AM
2

I've definitely seen it before. Obviously it's not "every" woman but I'd say it's somewhat common. I think it's all a part of the social media BS. (Show off your body, show off your money, and 1-up everyone else.) I think some women only view a guy and the life$tyle he provides as an accessory to show off on her IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:37 AM
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What's weird is I never see guys approaching anywhere. Even if an obviously attractive woman is by herself. It just doesn't seem to happen anymore. Also, anytime a woman is talking about a guy that tried to approach her, it seems like he's almost always a "creep, weirdo, etc." Which aligns perfectly with that tinder study from last year where women rejected about 95% of mens' profiles. It just seems like women are pushing everything online where they have all the leverage and can be as extremely…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:29 AM
3

I'm pretty sure "female" is considered offensive too, lol. But it's the internet. Everything's offensive to someone. So it's whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 03:18 AM
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I don't even "almost" believe that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:46 PM
1

Did you move there from the states, by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:43 PM
3

Someone will be offended and call you an incel for saying that in here, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 08:42 PM
1

"nuh-uh, YOU did first." What a fucking troll, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:35 PM
1

Oh, had to get the ad hominem in there too, I see. Real fucking mature, lol. Why wouldn't the paying women be considered random? And what does paying have to do with preferences? Would you find different people attractive if you paid for an app vs if you didn't? Why would anyone else? Sounds kind of ridiculous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:19 PM
1

So your "PhD" level understanding of statistics says they cannot be representative of the whole because they're "self selected"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 12:47 AM
0

I don't think men care nearly as much about women's jobs as women do about men's jobs. All that really happened after women joined the work force is that they let it go straight to their heads, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:52 AM
2

Back to the original point, "some" men wanting thicc women doesn't hinder women's dating abilities at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:25 AM
2

And yet even non-"thicc" women can join a dating app and have their inbox blown up like they're the last woman on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:10 AM
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The ones that resort to name calling and making negative assumptions about your personal life after you've pointed out how stupid and ridiculous their point was.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:38 PM
1

I wouldn't be surprised if that first paragraph describes the average high school student in 2022, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 11:35 PM
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Preach. What's insane to me is how the mainstream sweeps it under the rug. Even after all of the data we have from dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:20 PM
1

Probably because being straight made him a "creep" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:09 PM
4

Are you going to explain why? Or just stick with "nuh-uh"? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:24 PM
0

Statistically speaking, you could take the total number of women on bumble as the population and the number of women paying as the sample size. In that sense, the sample size can be indicative of the population. In other words, it may not be 60% of the total number of women on the app, but it's probably pretty damn close.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:54 PM
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Women don't even need dating apps. Let alone pay for them. They're going to have tons of options regardless so I don't think paying is a sign of how picky a woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:51 PM
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And that's exactly why I roll my eyes anytime a woman complains that men have "unrealistic beauty standards for women" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:22 PM
6

I don't see how paying vs not paying would be indicative of height preferences. Plus women almost always have something about height in their profiles. It's a HUGE deal for a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 06:20 PM
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They just say it's personality because they can't fathom a reality in which dating is actually difficult. They also most likely believe men and women are totally equal so if you can't get a date as easily as she can, then there must be something seriously wrong with you. They also probably actually believe that they would get dates no problem if they were men. Which is fucking hilarious, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:39 PM
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Well the plight of the modern single woman is that nobody's "good enough". I don't see why that would change offline vs online. If cold approaching in person were viable then I don't see how there would be much of a market for dating apps. The ROI is atrocious for most guys trying to date. The apps at least allow the guy to go through the numbers much more quickly than IRL approaches. Plus he doesn't have to deal with the "creep, weirdo, etc." comments, shaming, clowning, and/or "bothering" wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:18 PM
2

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:11 PM
1

Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:10 PM
2

I don't typically ask anyone about their clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 05:03 PM
2

The short shorts, crop tops, and bikinis have become normalized as a result of competition between women. Same thing with all of the half naked photos on IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:01 PM
1

???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:47 PM
0

Because the "easy" male attention is from the guys that aren't "good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:23 PM
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You can clearly see what I said. "for showing interest in him". A woman can simply say "hello" to a guy and he's not going to say that she's being creepy or weird. It sounds like you're conflating introducing herself to someone with sleeping around with every dude in a 20 mile radius.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:22 PM
0

That's rooted in paternity fraud. There's actually a basis in evolutionary biology for that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:12 PM
2

If I could use the shocked Pikachu meme right here, I would. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:01 PM
6

??? Shaming and rejecting are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 03:00 PM
2

When I'm looking at women's profiles on dating apps, it often seems like it's the same hive mind writing their bios. It's always "traveling, tacos, dogs, The Office, add me on IG, no hookups". Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:36 PM
12

I've never in my life heard of or seen a guy shaming a woman for showing interest in him. Whether she's attractive or not. It's never been considered borderline harassment for a woman to approach a man but you can't say the same the other way around. If a man shows interest in a woman, and he doesn't measure up to whatever she feels entitled to, she will frame it as if he is "creepy, weird, etc." His heterosexuality is basically framed as some sort of mental illness. Whereas women can be as sexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:19 PM
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They like to objectify themselves for the guys that they find attractive. Every other guy is just a "creepy, weirdo, pervert, etc." if they find her attractive. I think clothes have become more and more revealing because that's women competing with each other for male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:40 PM
1

Laying in bed or being on the couch talking, cuddling, and making out for literally hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:19 PM
1

I guess I would do some traveling and try to take the cheesiest IG photos possible in exotic locations around the world. Put them on IG and see if that helps lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:23 PM
2

Cooking because duh. Gymnastics because they usually have awesome legs and booty. Or anything fitness related, I guess. Not being obsessed with smoking and drinking. Anything artistic and creative. Be that music, painting, etc. Not sure exactly why on this one. Also, nerdy interests because it makes her more relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 11:12 PM
1

Yeah because "every" woman tediously analyses and dissects the bio for hours and ignores the photos. The entirety of someone's personality can be fully communicated through limited text. Sure, all of that is totally realistic. You have no idea how proportions work. 95% is still 95% regardless of the man/woman ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:25 AM
7

So these women rejected 95% of men because of their personalities before they even talked to them? How is that possible? https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:09 AM
9

So I'm an "incel" for pointing out that you're wrong. Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:03 AM
9

Not being 6ft or taller or making a certain amount of money, or balding, etc. Doesn't have anything to do with "personality" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 08:00 AM
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I never understood why people say that either. If Joe Schmoe has no chance online, then what makes him all of a sudden "good enough" IRL? Nothing changed. It's the exact same person. Also, I'll bet the women that say that have rejected the majority of guys that have showed interest in them throughout their lives. Anytime I've heard a woman talk about a guy that tried to cold approach her they almost always describe them as a "creep, weirdo, pervert, etc." That aligns perfectly well with the data…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:52 AM
3

The safety thing. But then again there are states that allow concealed carry. The weird/creepy guys. And I'm talking about the "actual" weird/creepy guys. Not the guys that showed interest but weren't "at least 6ft tall" or whatever, lol. Also, I can't imagine going through life and almost never being genuinely attracted to anyone and holding the belief that nobody's good enough for me. That sounds like a completely alien experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 07:42 AM
1

Exactly. I'll bet that's a significant assumption that all of the women answering are making. "Just talk to me like a person". Yeah, no shit. Gigachad can get away with that but Joe Schmoe is "being weird".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:47 AM
9

It just depends on her interests and maturity really. She could be younger but if she's obsessed with smoking and drinking, showing off her half naked body all over social media, and has a new TikTok to show me every five seconds, we won't last past 1 night of fooling around, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 05:33 AM
1

Guess I'll take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:47 AM
1

Hmm. Well I DO have a life outside of reddit so you got me there lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:46 AM
1

Then what in the hell do you mean by "expire"??? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:43 AM
2

No quote provided. Also, provide a quote where I said women are "completely undesirable" after their 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 02:12 AM
2

I think I'd actually pay money to see that. Their entire reality would crumble right in front of their face. "I... I don't understand... I took a shower... I touched grass..." (Existential crisis ensues).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:45 AM
1

Please provide the quote of me saying "I have no good career".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 01:33 AM
1

that would drive me fucking insane, lol. I barely got ANY matches on bumble at all for some reason. But I've been on dates from other apps using the exact same pictures so I don't know what's up with that app.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:35 AM
1

I've seen the one from Alexander Grace. I about lost my shit when she said she messaged "hey" LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:30 AM
1

Yeah, that's old as dirt. I've seen that a long time ago. I'm talking about the women in this sub that say things like "just take a shower" and "touch grass, bro" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 12:25 AM
2

How do you expect me to take you seriously if you're making baseless assumptions about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:07 PM
1

Lady, if I could "control my career path" I would make millions doing my favorite hobbies, lol. Also, I would say women peak early-mid 20's. Definitely not 30. Yes "some" might peak at 30 but exceptions don't make the rule and I'm speaking in general terms. It's annoying to have to spell it out but of course, this is reddit after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:45 PM
1

I would love to see these women cross dress to look like a man and then actually try their own advice and see how effective it is lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:28 PM
5

Meanwhile her equal male counterpart isn't "good enough" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 06:06 PM
1

Look up online dating statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:46 AM
2

The fact that most guys that show interest in them are only looking for sex. But at the same time it also allows them to have a sex life while they search for love. Which doesn't sound like too much of a "problem" to me. Also, I couldn't imagine going through life and barely ever finding anyone attractive and/or "good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:22 PM
3

For the misandrist women you're talking about, I suppose dating is the easiest thing to mock and troll men about. It's an easy target. On top of that, they can remain totally anonymous and protected while they let their true selves show. I think that's why a lot of them get their rocks off in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:03 PM
3

The women got who they wanted by rejecting everyone else. The guys found a woman because they took whatever they could get when they weren't good enough for anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:21 PM
2

Yeah, average women that most likely won't find them "good enough" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 02:14 PM
1

I'm not denying that those guys don't exist but I don't know any guy that's entitled to "only Victoria secret models". It seems to be way more prominent in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:49 PM
1

You're failing to consider that with every couple you see the woman probably rejected at least 10 guys before she met the one that she's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:46 PM
1

Yup. That too. As if guys don't act thirsty enough. The women need even MORE attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:45 PM
10

I think what a lot of people fail to consider is how many guys the woman rejected before she met that guy that you see her with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:42 PM
1

If it's so easy, what would you do if you were a single guy and wanted to meet a woman? Where would you go? What would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:40 PM
7

Very well said. I think that's a significant factor in how the current dating landscape is. Especially when modern women's biggest problem seems to be "nobody's good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:29 PM
1

When you consider how often a lot of women are consuming social media and how long social media has been a thing, yes I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 01:23 PM
32

I think it's a combination of having an insane amount of options and attention online and the constant brainwashing from the current social media zeitgeist (i.e. "know your worth, never settle, you're a 10 no matter what, men are trash, etc. etc.).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 06:03 AM
3

No idea. I have a friend that I've known since high school (we're both in our early 30's now) and he said he's only ever been on one date and there wasn't even any sort of chemistry on it. He meets the golden standard of "at least 6ft tall" and he's not overweight or anything. He also hangs out with people from his work pretty regularly based on our conversations too so he seems to be social. But even so, he remains a virgin. He's never tried dating apps because he knows what a shit show they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:27 AM
1

This reminds me I saw another couple today where the woman was pretty attractive (I'd say a 7, possibly 8) but the guy seemed completely average. Possibly even below. He was cubby, had a chubby face, patchy facial hair, was probably about 5'-9" and wearing glasses. He had the textbook "neck beard" look. I cannot fathom how she would even look his way considering all of the other potential options she had.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 08:11 AM
2

I've seen otherwise intelligent and hard working women make completely dumbass decisions when it comes to dating. I think they're just at the mercy of whichever emotional whims come about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 07:28 AM
7

Exactly. Whereas if it were common for people to just be friendly and talkative, you wouldn't have to be so suspicious of them. But that's not the world society wants, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 12:03 AM
9

I've noticed people seem to only talk to me if they're asking for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:48 PM
2

Depends on the movie, of course. But usually they meet in an extremely cheesy way that would never happen because women are very closed off to the vast majority of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:38 PM
2

Movies/shows are NOT real life, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:30 PM
2

Not surprised. If your views don't follow the narrative that women are inherently victims and can do no wrong, it's considered a thought crime, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:28 PM
1

Yeah but don't forget male thirst is possibly the primary driving factor behind that. Women are borderline worshipped online for their bodies. Of course that's going to go straight to their heads lol. Reminds me of that one lady that was like 70+ years old still being able to have one night stands with dudes via tinder. Wtf. I think it was on vice news. I always wonder how women would react if guys just stopped giving them attention online and what impact that would have on the dating market. To…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:19 PM
1

We're definitely in some sort of amalgamation of Idiocracy and Black Mirror. People place way too much value on quantity of likes and followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:09 PM
1

According to women on here I guess men used to take showers and they just started taking less and less showers, lol. But seriously, I think everything moved online now because that's where women have all the leverage. Since they're the choosers and not the beggars, they can decide where the game is played. Back in the day. I guess it was a little more understandable for a guy to approach in person because it was the only way if there were no prospects in your social circle. And it was more under…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 11:03 PM
2

Probably just a bullshit reason to let him down lightly. Mr. "0.001% better" probably came up and now she wants him instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:17 PM
1

I would care just as much because I could no longer trust her. We would be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 08:14 PM
1

Pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:46 AM
1

I wouldn't say I'm ugly but I'm only 5'-8" and Hispanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:39 AM
1

I'm in decent shape and have a degree in a STEM field. Still invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:45 PM
1

I think pretty much anywhere you go is going to be mostly the same. Women just have 10x more options in general. Not sure how a particular city would affect that unless the man/woman ratio is just better for men. Also, if someone says a city is "good" for them but it was bad for you, my next question would be how tall you both are, what kind of shape you're in, etc. I think that's a significant factor as well. Any location will be "good" for Gigachad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 11:44 PM
1

Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 02:29 PM
10

The height thing is so stupid. It's as if men said "we don't mind fat women. Only when they're insecure about it." And then you go on a dating app and every guy's bio says "your BMI can't be over 20".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:05 PM
1

It's kinda funny how if the topic is body count, women always say "why should it matter?, The past is the past, etc." But if a man has been with men before, all of the sudden the past is a huge deal, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:44 PM
3

I think they just use it as a social gambit whenever a guy is showing interest but they don't find him physically attractive. That way they can reject him without looking superficial. It also makes the guy look bad and frames them as a victim. It handles the situation perfectly from the woman's perspective. And that's why it's such a common tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:31 PM
1

So it's almost heterosexual = "creepy" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:56 PM
1

Yup. That's her. I wish she was in this sub just so I could see how she would respond to the "touch grass bro" and "just take a shower" arguments some women have in here, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:46 PM
2

Reminds me of a woman named Norah Vincent (if I remember correctly). I don't think she was trans but she dressed as a man for a year and talks about how differently people treated her. I think she was on 60 minutes or some show like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:32 PM
1

Nobody seems to talk to me unless they're asking for money or trying to sell me something. Also, consider your chances with a celebrity guy that you like. An average guy probably has an equal if not smaller chance with an average woman that he sees in a grocery store or some public environment. That's how it seems anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:27 PM
3

I'm sure there's been plenty of times when a woman caught me looking one too many times and probably thought I was "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:18 PM
2

I remember them from another post a few days ago. Definitely a troll account.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:36 PM
3

Swipe right if you want to talk. Swipe left if you don't. It literally cannot be broken down into any simpler mechanism than that. And even so most people can't seem to wrap their minds around that concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 06:04 PM
3

Yet another example of why I don't understand when someone says that real life is somehow better for men trying to meet women than online. That party you went to sounds like if a dating app were a physical place.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:51 PM
7

They complain about how low value their equal is. Fucking mic drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:37 PM
3

You said they didn't care though but they do. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:11 PM
3

Actually they do. That's why men get demonized and crucified if they want a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:36 PM
1

But the guys in those examples are doing obviously wrong shit. I think most guys have enough common sense to not do that stuff. The problem is when a guy gets lumped in with those guys simply for showing interest or asking her out and not being "hot/good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:06 PM
2

I would expect that to be a common reaction, honestly but that's good if it's only happened once. I'm guessing that's out of many approaches too. And are you in the United States?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:38 PM
2

People say dating apps are different than real life but your comment aligns perfectly with the last tinder study I saw. Women rejected about 95% of guys. And when you get approached in person, everyone's "just a creep".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:34 PM
2

Are you in the United States? Nobody's ever tried to shame you for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 06:14 PM
3

I never see approaches either and I see attractive women pretty regularly if I'm out and about. Even attractive women by themselves don't seem to get acknowledged. It's weird because you know every guy in the place would love to meet them and talk to them. It's the elephant in the room so to speak. I figured cold approaching was just dead now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:58 PM
1

Agreed. The "muh safety" thing is complete bullshit. They're more concerned with how tall a guy is than whether he has a criminal record or not. Plus they often prefer taller guys so how would it be "more safe" to get involved with someone significantly larger than yourself? Please. And yeah, guys have the issue of acting like they've never seen a pair of boobs before so plain Jane can go on a dating app and feel like the last woman on earth. I think if guys could calm the fuck down even a littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 04:10 PM
2

And I'm pretty sure that came from TikTok. Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:16 PM
11

And then it'll be back to "where have all the good men gone?" Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 02:04 PM
2

You kind of lost me with that first paragraph. But it sounds like you're saying the profiles would be hidden if their match slots are full (for lack of better terms). I'm not so sure that would matter because, for example, hiding Gigachad doesn't make a 5ft guy magically grow to 6ft. Remember they're constantly brainwashed with "never settle, know your worth, etc." type shit from social media. So you still have the issue of them even wanting to "like" the profile. Plus, if they aren't interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 12:50 AM
3

Except women rejecting 95% of guys (or whatever the number is now) is not a product of an algorithm in the app. That's purely women making the decisions through their own volition. How do you expect to address that with an app?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:30 PM
1

You're giving them WAY too much credit. They don't put nearly that much thought into it. Look at the current state of things. Some women are always on about "muh safety" and yet on dating apps they're more concerned with how tall a guy is rather than if he has a criminal record. Plus they usually want the tallest guys so how are larger men more "safe"? That doesn't make sense. I think it's because when people are on dating apps, they're purely being run by their monkey brain. Women by being extr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:23 PM
4

I've suggested some sort of limit like that before. But ultimately, the problem is that women don't think that anyone is "good enough". So I think it would result in the majority of men just never getting a match because women would want to save their likes for Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:02 PM
1

Sounds like you're assuming his wife is a "perfect 10".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:51 PM
1

Because he most likely didn't have as much money when he was younger. Money is often a factor for women when judging a guy's attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:28 PM
1

He could have lost weight or something. I'm not going to split hairs over every single possibility. I'm only talking about what is most probable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:18 PM
1

You don't need any background to know that's the most likely scenario, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 10:14 PM
12

The best advice I've gotten has been from either PUA or red pill men. Probably because all of their advice comes from their real world experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:31 PM
15

Fucking EXACTLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:34 PM
2

I'm the exact same person on here as I am in real life. They would probably just say "oh, those are so solid points. And some things I never considered before." Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:20 PM
4

If I'm going to grow emotionally attached to a financial black hole, I at least want it to be "my" financial black hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:17 PM
4

Yes and now I think we're getting to a point where it's considered "weird". Which is only going to push more guys to the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:16 PM
8

Sounds like they're just stuck. If they go to any social gatherings then they're just going to be "the weird guy with no friends". That would probably make them feel more ostracized than not going.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 07:04 PM
2

Oh yeah. He might be smaller than 12". How terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:51 PM
2

Yeah, I could agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:50 PM
3

Well next time a woman complains about a physically abusive boyfriend, I'll be waiting to see your response telling her that she "deserved" it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:50 PM
2

Let me guess. That just goes for men, right? Not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:46 PM
2

LOL. Yeah, didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:44 PM
3

Wow. "bad sex" just as bad as murder and rape, huh. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:42 PM
2

Do you think any guy that you've dated has "never" been ghosted or rejected at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:40 PM
6

Yeah, I've seen way too many guys get shamed/clowned by the woman from a genuine attempt. Honestly I think they just play the "creep" card because they don't want to appear superficial. That way they can reject the guy for his looks but blame his behavior and play the victim. It's like a social gambit that simultaneously solves all of the issues that come up from an unwanted approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:28 PM
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This is probably the most accurate, lol. I've noticed they're VERY quick to resort to name calling too if you have an opinion or said something they don't like but can't refute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:15 PM
2

That's easy to do once, or twice, maybe even 3 times. But after a while it probably all starts to feel like a sisyphean task. Hence the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:04 PM
3

??? I'm pretty sure women are the ones using makeup, filters, angles, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:01 PM
5

Then why even talk to him in the first place? You've completely lost me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:58 PM
7

Oh look, misandry. I'm shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:53 PM
6

If I answer that you'll probably just move the goal posts again. So who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:49 PM
3

Because it's most likely the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:48 PM
2

I think the best way would be for guys to stop acting like they've never seen a pair of boobs before and for women to realize that Bruce Wayne is a fictional character and even IF he was real, he probably wouldn't date them because he has better options. I'm aware these things will never happen but in theory, I think it would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:46 PM
3

I think it's sort of a chicken or the egg situation. If cold approaching was a viable method, dating apps never would've had much of a market in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:36 PM
47

I tried it once and did not get the orgy with 50 women that I was promised.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:28 PM
5

I think you're underestimating the sheer abundance women have when it comes to dating options. They can simply afford to reject guys for trivial and mind numbing things. The wind blew this way instead of that way? You're gone. There's 30+ more dudes waiting in line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:25 PM
5

If there's time for TikTok, there's time to actually get to know someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:19 PM
4

It's not socially acceptable? Care to explain all of the pride events that happen across the nation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:02 PM
6

We get shamed for wanting sex pretty much at all. It's possible it's more socially acceptable now for a guy to be gay than heterosexual. I've never heard anyone call a gay man a "creepy weirdo" for showing interest in someone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:39 PM
6

Before when he was younger, had less money, wasn't as established in life, and wasn't pre-selected he was probably invisible and you probably never would've looked his way Now he finally shows up on the radar so of course he wants to play ball now that he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:01 PM
1

It's kind of weird. With all of that education you would think that they would understand that increasing their own income does not increase the quantity of rich men to go around. All they're doing is exacerbating their "nobody's good enough" problem, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:45 PM
1

"Thou shalt fucketh in thine car iffest thou cohabitateth with thine givers of live." Lavidalocas 4:20 - 69
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:25 PM
1

It doesn't really make sense to gauge his interest based on the money he spends. Like I was saying before, women are in total abundance and can afford to reject a guy for literally anything. Therefore it doesn't make sense for him to invest much at all in any woman early on. The guy could be rich but doesn't want to flash it because he doesn't want a gold digger. Or maybe since he's rich, extravagant dates aren't a big deal so he can afford to spend more than the average guy when it's actually n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:50 PM
0

Read it as many times as you need to I guess. I don't know what else to tell you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:25 PM
1

Yes, women making guys wait for sex is what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:22 PM
1

Sure some dates don't work out. All the more reason for a guy to be mindful of what he's spending. All women want sex too. Most living things do. Not sure what your point is by pointing that out. I'm just saying that's the first step in the dating process. There has to be physical/sexual interest first and foremost. That's what sparks the date to happen. So it doesn't really make sense to dismiss and demonize guys for finding a woman attractive. They're all potential options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:11 PM
1

I'm pretty sure all women say they want a serious relationship. Even the ones on tinder. But then when selecting guys they're completely ruthless about height and looks. Typically if someone's hyper focused on looks like that they're more interested in something short term. So it's hard to say if most women actually want something serious but they will definitely say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:02 PM
0

The guy's interest doesn't determine if it's a waste or not. The woman's interest does. Plus it kind of puts a weird dynamic on things if he has to purchase her time. Yes they do. Physical/sexual attraction is the first step in the dating process. Without that there's literally zero interest in anything. Sure some are probably only trying to bust a nut but I would say most of them are interested in finding out if you have long term potential for them or not. And your last paragraph isn't necessa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:39 PM
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The fact that she agreed to meet in person and actually showed up is a borderline miracle. Even after that, she can afford to vanish at any time regardless of how much money the guy spends. It's not a wise investment. Plus there are some women that take advantage of those guys and are only in it for the free meal. And again, how does he know that she's serious? And let's not pretend "women just want someone that makes effort". He had to be a certain height first, make a certain amount of money f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 02:08 PM
0

So you're saying he "has" to at least spend a certain amount, I guess. If it's the first couple of dates and you don't really know each other at all, that's honestly not a wise investment on his part. You've most likely got 30+ other dudes waiting in line and you're ready to drop him if one of those guys is 0.001% "better". And how does he know that you're serious about him?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:38 PM
2

You're saying that the amount of money he spends directly reflects how serious he is, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:23 PM
2

The "real dates" thing isn't exactly accurate. A guy could be interested in something serious but just not know the woman well enough yet. For example if he meets a woman from a dating app (which is pretty common these days), it doesn't make sense for their first few days to be extravagant. He doesn't even know her. Plus, women typically have 10x as many options as guys do and can't afford to reject them for literally anything. It's not wise for a guy to heavily invest early on when he can be re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:14 PM
2

Don't they do that by making them wait for sex? I thought that was the whole point of why they did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:09 PM
2

I'd rather have a relationship because dating is a pain in the ass and the initial "getting to know you" typically bores me out of my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:26 PM
2

Definitely not a "Chad" by any means. When I was in high school people would say I look like Thomas Ian Nicholas from American Pie. And I'm only 5'-8".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 11:34 PM
6

The last girl I dated definitely treated me like a Chad. Only a few others have in the past as well but other than that, I'm a totally invisible Joe Schmoe. Which is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:12 PM
1

I'm going to go to bed. Read my original comment as many times as you need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:50 AM
1

Did I originally say "tyrant"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:39 AM
1

Maybe "your" understanding. I think most people view leadership as a positive trait. It sounds like you don't differentiate between a leader and a tyrant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:36 AM
1

Is that what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:28 AM
3

Yeah, it's more of a self imposed "struggle". That was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:42 PM
8

It's only "difficult" for women because nobody's good enough. It's difficult for men because it's hard to find someone that will give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:38 PM
1

Pillmills? Superficiality is the problem. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it's the answer. I also have no idea what was arrogant about what I said. Kinda wondering if you even responded to the right person, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:34 PM
1

I wouldn't say "upset" is the right word at all. It's sort of like if you bought a lottery ticket. You probably wouldn't be "upset" if you got one and then didn't win the jackpot, right? You wouldn't be emotionally invested in the outcome if you know the game is rigged against you. You would probably just be indifferent because that's just how the game is and you aren't taking it personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:14 PM
1

I really wish they had another term for the manipulative type of "nice guy" because it seems like such a loaded term in the context of dating. I've always been confused by it though. It's like the more you show you care about a woman the farther you push her away from yourself and the closer you push her to "Chad". So how in the hell are you ever supposed to get anything off of the ground as far as a relationship goes?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:49 AM
2

Nah. Apparently we're all "hunchback incels with small dicks that never leave our mom's basement to touch grass".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:44 AM
1

I've heard it has to do with a lower chance of paternity fraud. The guys that didn't care usually ended up raising someone else's kid and their genes never got passed on. It's sort of the same reason people get jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:43 AM
1

I don't think that's a proper analogy. CrossFit is pretty niche. Maybe a general gym might be a better representation. But even so, I would say a larger proportion of the population and therefore a wider variety is interested in dating than a gym. Also, if women were only shown the most attractive guys then why do the studies show them rejecting such a large proportion of the options presented to them? If they're being shown the most attractive guys and STILL rejecting 90%+ of them then that mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 12:28 AM
1

One of the fundamental concepts of statistics is observing a sample size in order to draw conclusions about the population. (Basically observe "some" of whatever you're looking at because it's impossible to observe "all" of it). So begs the question, why wouldn't women on dating apps be representative of the entire population of women? There's all kinds of women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:41 PM
3

As easily as a woman could meet someone else? Hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:58 PM
0

Am I, though? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:22 PM
8

Sounds crazy enough to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:17 PM
1

I never go for sex on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 01:08 PM
1

Been exercising for about 10 years now. It's mostly gotten me compliments from other dudes. Still feel totally invisible to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:56 PM
22

But it's our job to somehow "know" when it's flirting or when it's just being friendly. It's all part of the easy mode women play on. Show interest by treating him like everyone else. If he doesn't ask you out then conclude he must not be interested because that's the only explanation. Make a TikTok about how men are trash. Go to the next guy waiting in line. Rinse and repeat until a relationship happens, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:47 PM
2

I've noticed american women seem to have this mentality where they take pride in being impossible to please. And they encourage each other to be that way. Like that's just a general theme I've noticed in social media that they seem to love. Which is kinda weird. Anytime I've spoken to a foreign woman they just seem way more down to earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:52 PM
1

Women have a skewed perception of "average". So all of those 7's you're talking about are probably actually 9's. Women put average at the 80th percentile. So technically a 7 is "below average" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:43 PM
1

Did you meet on a dating app?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:40 PM
3

So what's an example of something you would find attractive online but not offline? And vice versa. Edit: 16 hours later - (crickets)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:26 PM
2

??? It's not a matter of how they act. It's a matter of what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:19 PM
2

Then explain the dating app studies, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:17 PM
2

It's a yes/no question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:09 PM
5

Yeah, I can't recall the last time I heard a guy complain about a "creepy/weird" woman showing interest in him, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 07:07 PM
2

I'm not stomping. You're the one writing novels, lol. Are you telling me that you find the vast majority of men "above average" in attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:26 PM
5

No, that's exactly how this works. You make a claim and then fail to provide the data that backs it up. The divorce rate is pretty bad and the majority are initiated by women. That's just statistical fact. Not "red pill", lol. It sounds like any data that points to conclusions that you don't like is immediately dismissed as "like, stupid". Is that about right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:09 PM
6

I see a lot of shit talking but still no links. If they're cherry picking as you claim, then it should be pretty easy to provide some sort of data showing otherwise. Easier than talking shit until you're blue in the face, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:24 PM
12

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:13 PM
17

Looks like you've missed my point entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:11 PM
2

I see you're talking about the social power women have over men. But that doesn't follow the narrative that women are inherently victims so we have to sweep that under the rug lest we be labeled "incels" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:08 PM
2

I think you would have to edit the post and define what you mean by "top 5%". It's 2022 so "nobody's good enough" as far as most women are concerned, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:02 PM
4

I don't see any links.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:55 PM
18

Women showing interest is usually extremely subtle. They probably "feel" like they're being 100x more obvious than what is actually being perceived. Like the other person said, it could simply be a smile. A LOT of people smile just to be polite. Edit: can't respond to you for some reason but it's not neuroticism when the chances of the woman finding a guy attractive are pretty small. And if an unattractive guy makes advances then it's a borderline harassment/#metoo case. If you want to talk abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:52 PM
3

Exactly. If it helped then men would be busting down the doors at Ulta Beauty lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:46 PM
4

If it's cherry picked then provide data that shows otherwise. I still haven't seen anything indicating that women think 50% of men are below average and 50% are above. I'm also wondering how you would explain this one: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 Is it just the "app design"? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:41 PM
2

Even in school it was the same. Barely anyone would talk unless we got assigned in the same group project or something. And it's the same now at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:28 PM
33

Kind of reminds me of how so many women complain that guys "only want sex" and that we're some kind of sicko, mentally ill pervert if we so much as look at a woman for a little too long. But at the same time they want the guy to initiate literally everything. It's just "shame, shame, shame and shame again" from society if you're a male and have a sex drive. Unless a woman finds you attractive and validates you. Only then is it "ok".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 04:01 PM
10

Aaaaaand crickets. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:45 PM
4

It is extremely closed off. I've been in my city for about 5 years now and the only people that acknowledge me at all are customer service workers because they have to as part of their job and homeless people because they're asking for money. Other than that, I'm totally invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:31 PM
1

Tell that to Jeff Bezos lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:13 PM
4

Exactly. That's the plight of the modern single woman. "Nobody's good enough for me."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:03 PM
0

They do. I see the same shit copied and pasted on so many profiles it's ridiculous. A lot of women just parrot whatever they see trending on social media. It's like they have no thoughts of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 03:01 PM
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As if women weren't judging men on looks before the internet? Lol. I don't think that's the issue. I think setting the "average" mark at the 80th percentile is what makes them mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 02:49 PM
3

The more you talk, the worse you sound lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:51 PM
7

I'm not even sure if cold approach is "okay" and socially acceptable anymore. I notice attractive women pretty often when I'm out and about. Some will damn near break my neck. Another thing I notice is that nobody ever seems to talk to them or even acknowledge them at all. Except for employees of the store/restaurant/whatever. But what's weird is you know damn well men are borderline worshipping them online through their pocket computers. It's like being in an episode of black mirror. And just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:50 PM
2

You don't understand the statistical meaning of "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:13 PM
5

Exactly. I think a lot of people don't understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:12 PM
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I see a lot of comments saying that's not true but then how do you explain the dating app studies? Are those just made up?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:13 PM
2

And how many guys did you ignore on there? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:25 PM
0

Funny because anytime I see "god first" and/or "tired of the games" in a woman's bio on dating apps, it's almost always a single mom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 08:07 PM
3

I would say that's more women than life but sure, same difference. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:37 PM
21

That just confirms that a guy is only doing something "wrong" if the woman doesn't like him. If she isn't physically attracted, she can simply say that the guy is being "weird" and/or "inappropriate". It puts all of the blame on the guy and she can reject him without appearing superficial. It's just a social gambit they can use instead of saying "nah. You're ugly."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 07:21 PM
1

That's pretty much what I do. Although being around a bunch of people small talking each other to death gets old REALLY fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:56 PM
1

9 times out of 10 events like that primarily consist of drinking and I've never really cared for alcohol. But even so, parties like that don't seem to happen too often. Or at least not often enough to be a consistently reliable method.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 06:09 PM
2

The population is about 300,000
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:19 PM
1

United States
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:10 PM
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Consider the odds of joining some group and there being and attractive, single woman also in the group that also finds "you" attractive and nobody else in her life. Keep in mind the group is going to be mainly guys and any woman there is probably only there because she's already dating/married to someone else in the group. Really wish I had the numbers to show the mathematical odds of those stars aligning "perfectly". Most people are horrible at socializing and that's why they're entirely depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:55 PM
3

How is it an "attitude" if I'm being as objective as possible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:36 PM
1

I haven't noticed any. Most people seem to just get their drink to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:39 PM
2

Maybe it's just the city but pretty much anywhere I go is standoffish. I've been going to this one coffee shop type place for years since I moved to this city. The same people have worked there the entire time except every time I walk in and order they treat me as if it's my first time there. There's a really cute woman that works there that caught my eye a long time ago but she doesn't even look at me. Even if I'm standing right in front of her placing my order. I actually saw her on tinder onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:28 PM
5

Ok but we already knew Gigachad is playing on easy mode lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:23 PM
1

That's something really positive about religions. They offer a sense of community like that. People are welcoming just because of the same faith. Modern culture doesn't really seem to have anything like that in a more secular environment. Although if it did, that would be the time and place to actually meet people. I've heard some countries somewhat do this where everyone just kind of hangs out in the town square or whatever in the evening and random people just socialize. Someone in here mentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:09 PM
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Social circle - who's friends are constantly and regularly introducing them to single women? That never sounded realistic to me. In reality social circle is extremely low volume and largely based on luck. Dating apps - everyone complains about them. Even women that have practically unlimited options. Guys are almost never "good enough" to even match with. Let alone talk to. For non male models this is largely based on luck. Sure you can improve your profile but come on. Even if you double your c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:00 PM
2

Assuming I'm physically attracted to her, she would have to show interest or give me some sort of sign first in order for me to hit on her but that never seems to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 11:47 AM
2

Well the last tinder study I saw showed that women only "liked" sounds 5% of guys so I'm thinking a LOT more would've gotten likes if what women found attractive was as varied as you claim. I've been to night venues plenty of times. I don't think I ever saw a single approach. Everyone just stuck with their group of friends that they arrived at the venue with. They're either looking at their phone or their friends so good luck even catching eye contact. Every day I go somewhere whether it's the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:33 AM
1

I used to work in a retail store. The janitor said the same thing about the bathrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:17 AM
2

Fuck off, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 03:09 AM
2

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:29 AM
3

Then why do so many women have "no hookups" in their bio?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:27 AM
2

You lost me at "dating apps aren't for dating" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 12:22 AM
1

Pffft lol. If body language were "that" effective, there'd be no market for dating apps. Guys could just approach any and everywhere and dating wouldn't be a complete shit show.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:51 PM
1

Well yeah, he's Chad. He beats everyone lol. You can text a woman "WYD"and you'll get an eye roll. Chad can do the same and his dick is being sucked 15 min later. You have to be the dancing monkey and jump through hoops. Chad does not. And if what women find attractive varies so much then why do the dating app studies show otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:26 PM
1

LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:14 PM
4

Except I've been out plenty of times and never saw one guy approaching. People just stick with their group of friends that they arrived at the venue with. At least in the night venues "I've" been in. Although I can't imagine why any other city in the country would be much different. Barely any people from dating apps meet in person because women think 90%+ of men aren't good enough. Otherwise dating apps would work extremely well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:13 PM
2

That doesn't make sense. If that's what they cared about then they would be eager to find out about that stuff. But they're not. Yes, they do want to feel like they're in a movie because the protagonist's love interest is almost always above average in looks, lol. That's a given by default when they say they want the excitement and romance. The fact that the guy is above average is what makes his interest in her "exciting and romantic". If the guy was average or below and trying that stuff then …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:05 PM
3

That's awesome for you but I'm talking about the vast majority. You probably just liked how he looked in the first place and then started to backwards rationalize all of the body language stuff or whatever you're telling yourself. If the majority of women operated that way, there would be no market for dating apps and guys would be approaching literally anywhere and everywhere. You probably wouldn't be able to go to the grocery store without at least seeing a few approaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:55 PM
1

I guess I'll ask a different way. What is "female reactive sexuality"? What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:44 PM
1

Obviously they're going to be polite but they won't want anything to do with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:42 PM
0

I'm not equating anything. I'm purely just going off of observations. If women actually cared about all that other stuff then dating apps would be awesome for guys because they could rack up matches with a bunch of women that were itching to get to know them and meet them in person. "He's a 3 on the app but he could be an 8 in person." Right? Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:40 PM
1

Then you might not be as attractive as you think or maybe you live in a sparsely populated area or on apps that aren't popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:10 PM
2

There's plenty of dating app studies. My friend even made a profile of an overweight woman on bumble and his phone blew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:08 PM
3

Average girls make a killing on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:03 PM
1

Not if Gigachad says it lol. Likewise Danny DeVito can simply say hello and he's a "creep".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:02 PM
3

You're speaking as if approaching IRL makes every other man disappear and the woman's standards drop to average all of a sudden. That doesn't make any sense. You're trapped in the tinder venue 24/7. Her phone is with her everywhere she goes. She has 1000 dudes in her pocket. She doesn't even need a dating app because of social media. Those things don't just vanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:01 PM
1

Oh you mean "don't worry". I had no idea wtf "dw" was lol. And excuse me. 999 likes. If what you're saying was true then there would be no market for dating apps because no guy would waste his time with lottery odds if IRL were "that" much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:55 PM
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Except we're talking about real life. Not a Disney movie. I've never in my life heard a woman speak positively about a random guy that tried to approach her. They almost always say the guy was "weird" or "creepy" or that he was being inappropriate. Best case, she's completely neutral about it. They never say "oh wow, he was so confident and courageous for approaching me like that." Also, women will ask how tall a guy is before they ask anything about his character.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:49 PM
1

So dw???
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:40 PM
2

You could also say that the guys that never happen to be within her physical proximity never get a shot either. Striking out and never getting a shot yield the exact same result. Even if the stars align and a non-gigachad somehow convinces her to exchange contact info from a cold approach, he's reduced to a notification in her phone just like on a dating app. He's merely placed among 100 other messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:38 PM
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If those 1000 guys on the dating apps aren't "good enough" online, what makes them good enough IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:26 PM
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I don't see how. If any guy says he's on the for a hookup, women probably wouldn't talk to him at all. They're just like you. "not looking for a hookup".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 09:15 PM
2

An insane amount of luck (be born 6'-5" or whatever's considered "good enough" now, and then be born to a wealthy family). After that, just put some time in the gym and boom. 1% man. If luck isn't on your side then you have to put in more work than 99% of men are willing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:47 PM
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It's very possible they're legitimately completely oblivious about how strong they react to looks but then consciously rationalize that it's "personality". My sister is a perfect example of your last paragraph. She's always been hard working and mostly responsible and has her wits about her in general but when it comes to dating, she's made some total dumbass decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 06:18 PM
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Define "interesting".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:51 PM
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A LOT of the women on tinder say "no hookups" in their bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:48 PM
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A LOT of the women on tinder say "no hookups" in their bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:48 PM
4

No, it would be like turning off the need for the job. You lost me with that analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:28 PM
1

Could you define "female reactive sexuality"? Because WTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:18 PM
8

So now I'm a "misogynist that never goes outside" because you can't refute my point? Lol. Grow the fuck up. Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:16 PM
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It's not like they can turn off their sex drive until they're deemed "good enough" by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:14 PM
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They would probably never touch porn if there were a ton of women that wanted to rip their clothes off, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:05 PM
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I'm probably more aware of what dating apps are like for women than the average guy. They're inundated with attention because guys act like they've never seen a pair of boobs before. A lot of guys match with women out of desperation because they're in scarcity. Not sure what you mean by "treating it like a video game". Wtf. Anyway, women typically only go for the guys out of their league. Hence why they only want sex. The women with realistic standards are in relationships because they can liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:57 PM
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Even if you work in an office at a huge company like me, there aren't many single women around my age walking around. And the ones that are here never work close to me at all so we might as well be working from home in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:49 PM
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Sounds like a chicken or the egg situation. I don't think they'd care about video games and TV much if there were a ton of women outside ready to rip their clothes off, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:46 PM
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You guys don't understand how proportions work. It doesn't matter that more men than women are on dating apps. Women will only want the top 10-20%. You're assuming that anyone with dating problems never talks to anyone, has no hobbies, etc. That maybe describes a few extreme outlier cases but that's not true for the majority of guys. Edit: Can't respond to any replies to this for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:40 PM
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Exactly. If nobody's "good enough" online, I don't see why they would be in person. Anytime I've heard women talk about a guy that tried to talk to them 9 times out of 10 they describe him as some sort of "weirdo". It aligns perfectly with the data taken from dating apps. Edit: can't respond to any replies to this for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:02 PM
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I think rejection is fine. Just being on a dating app the average guy is probably rejected 1000 times per minute and nobody cares. I think it's the being labeled "creeps and weirdos" part that guys don't care for. And/or being shamed and clowned just for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:58 PM
4

I think the culture is a big part of it. There's almost no opportunities to meet single women naturally in a normal environment. It's considered "creepy, weird, inappropriate, etc." for a guy to even try in most types of environments. On top of women's general mentality that "nobody's good enough". The status quo only benefits the guys at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:53 PM
1

Bye, troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:48 PM
1

Alright. Keep splitting hairs over noses. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:42 PM
2

Yes I realize I'm not aware of "everything" going on in my brain. Which makes it even more hilarious when randoms on Reddit think they know more about it than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:01 PM
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The entire body positivity movement and the "beautiful no matter what" mentality is all about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:31 PM
1

People will point out eyes way more often than they point out a nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:35 AM
2

So you know more about what I think than I do. Classic Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:27 AM
0

It doesn't matter when you have someone that interprets anything you say in the dumbest way possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:27 AM
1

I guess people take noses WAY more seriously than I thought, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:44 PM
1

Oh you took it literally. I'm shocked. Edit: I'm not actually being electrocuted. It was a figure of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:42 PM
1

I guess I've just never focused that hard on a nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:42 PM
2

So one guy out of literally billions. Maybe they'll meet one day. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:38 PM
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I don't think that really happens as much as you're thinking either. If I don't find someone attractive I don't usually point that out. Nor have my friends ever done it. Plus, a nose job isn't exactly going to turn a 3 into a 9 or something like that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:37 PM
30

"BRO. Look at that chick's nose!!!" Said no guy ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:25 PM
2

Sounds like you think a guy should just be a 1-upper that's always trying to AMOG other guys anywhere he's at and anywhere he goes. Always seeking approval from others. Which sounds kind of insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:22 PM
1

Mic drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:37 PM
1

I can kind of agree with some of it but I think TRP was a reaction to the "sex and the city" stuff that the mainstream fed women back when the show was around. Then social media came around and they all started parroting "know your worth, queen" and "500 lbs is beautiful" and shit like that. Plus you had simps affirming all of that stuff even further. The internet just exacerbated what TV started. Then out of all of the guys getting played in the trenches of dating and destroyed in divorce court…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 05:14 PM
2

If it's coming from a woman, she probably just means have the 6-6-6.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:57 PM
10

"Treat women like people" is right up there with other dumb/obvious advice like "just be yourself" and "just be confident". It's just something people parrot when they don't know what else to say but are trying to sound like they have something profound lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 12:06 PM
0

Just depends what your ROI is I guess. I've met women from apps but the ones that are "actually" interested have been extremely few and far in between. Like I wouldn't say it has been a practical and consistent method for me at all. But even so, it's been a million times better than real life. Which sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:35 PM
2

I don't really know of an alternative for guys that aren't meeting new single women on a regular basis. Apps are a complete shit show but I've had most of my results from them. Women never show any interest IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:42 PM
1

This sub is only toxic when you haven't blocked the toxic people. I've lost count of all of the trolls I've had to block that immediately resort to personal attacks the second I make a solid point that they can't refute. When they don't exist and you only see people actually contributing to the discussions it greatly improves the experience. Also, i think it's well known that dating apps have ruined dating but what is alternative? I don't think cold approach is a thing anymore. I literally never…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:34 PM
0

I think that would definitely improve society. It might also take the tinge of misandry out of the air since men would be more rare. I think women are generally more okay with not marrying and ending up alone. Plus guys are almost never "good enough" anyway. Given a population of guys women will always only want the top 20% (or 10% or whatever the number is now). They'll never be satisfied so there's no point in catering to their wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:36 PM
2

I'm pretty sure we'd still be considered "creepy weirdos". Otherwise nobody would have dating apps and everyone would be going out in groups lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:11 PM
5

??? There's a variety of women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:26 PM
1

"The most incorrect assumption is that women are only attracted to a small subset of men." Has there been any explanation as to why that's not reflected in those dating app studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:13 PM
6

I can attest we definitely do not have that culture where I live (United States). Usually if you go up to someone on the street they just think you're crazy or asking for money or something. Let alone a man approaching a woman. I've been in my city for about 5 years now and nobody has talked to me except for homeless people and people that have to because it's part of their job. There's always an ulterior motive. There also seems to be a tinge of misandry in the culture now which nobody bats an …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:03 PM
2

Dude wtf, lol. My point is just that people have attempted to address the issue in the past. That's it. There are no goal posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:56 PM
1

Not specifically but if it wasn't a major one then why was premarital sex, lust, adultery, deemed a sin?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:24 PM
1

The post was talking about solutions to the extreme imbalance in the sexual market place. I pointed out how societies have attempted to address it in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:11 PM
0

Never said it was "solely" about giving all men access to sex or that it was meant to oppress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:05 PM
6

(facepalm)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:26 PM
8

I'm talking about the sexual market place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:22 PM
5

Meh. Maybe sex would often lead to pregnancy but that doesn't mean it necessarily lead to children. If you catch my drift.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:08 PM
12

I've noticed that happens a lot. "All men want is sex and have no interest in love or a family." Lol. It's just blatant misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:24 PM
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I think societies tried to address these issues a LONG time ago with religions. We're only now coming back full circle. Pretty much any religion that promoted monogamy and discouraged premarital sex was trying to implement a socialist sexual market place instead of a capitalist one. I guess they figured at least that way men could have their virgin bride and the price of sex with a woman would be very high (lifelong commitment via marriage). I think that was their first attempt at instilling som…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:16 PM
4

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3557688/Women-really-love-bad-boys-Females-likely-lust-people-criminal-records-males-study-finds.html
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:44 PM
1

That happened to a friend of mine back in college. Except he asked out some girl in our class and she didn't tell him that she had a boyfriend until they were at the restaurant and already eating. How fucked up is that. Lol. If I'm meeting someone from online I always just keep it super simple. No fancy dinners or any of that shit. I think it helps to filter out the ones that are just looking for freebies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:14 PM
1

And it still does seem that way. A woman could match with you but that doesn't mean she has any intention whatsoever of talking to you. It's pretty mind numbing The ROI is atrocious but it still seems to be better odds than I've ever had in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:13 PM
1

News flash, dating sucks for guys. Therefore most want a relationship so they don't have to deal with dating. Not a strawman when you revealed your immediate assumption about a guy approaching you. i.e. "If he approached me with the intention of a ONS..." Those are your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:24 AM
1

Lol. Not sure how you think this stuff works. A guy has to find you physically/sexually attractive first and foremost. He does not know if he wants to be in a relationship with you or not before he knows who you are. You're probably going to assume that any guy just wanted a one-night stand so your rejection rate would be pretty close to 100%. Which confirms my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 01:57 AM
2

Look up any sort of "pickup artist" content on the internet. Those guys typically do a LOT of cold approaching and it's common knowledge that a guy has to approach at least 100 women to MAYBE get a few dates out of it. I don't know if any of them keep a spreadsheet and publicly share it. It's sort of like the door to door sales of dating. A random woman most likely isn't even looking to date as it is. Let alone the odds that she's single and finds him "good enough". Plus I'm sure if 100 random g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:37 PM
2

So "I" need citation but you don't. How convenient. Look up literally any dating app statistics ever. Women reject the majority of guys. Are you sure about that? This is from 2019 https://goat.com.au/relationships/this-graph-showing-how-couples-meet-is-a-reflection-of-how-wild-the-modern-dating-world-is/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:23 PM
2

Even if the man/woman ratio were 1 to 1, women would still reject 80%-90% guys after a quick glance. "Anecdotal". So my experience of reality is not valid. Makes sense lol. I guess let me know how many approaches you witness over the next 24 hours while you're outside "touching grass" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:17 PM
14

It's not even technically complaining. It's basic acknowledgement of reality. Sure it's unfavorable but that doesn't make it a "complaint". Anytime those people would offer what they think would be a solution, you could give a legitimate reason why it wasn't and they would simply respond by calling you an incel. A good analogy would be if someone asked how to make money and they replied with "just buy a lottery ticket". You could say "well the odds of winning the lottery are very low." Even thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:12 PM
2

I only work with one woman directly and she's way older than I am. I work at a huge company. There's a few attractive women there around my age but we never work together or cross paths in any way. There's no opportunity to meet them organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:02 PM
12

Yeah, I was banned for saying something about how women easily get 10x as many matches as guys or how women reject 80%-90% of guys on dating apps or something along those lines. These are verifiable facts. I don't know how those dip shits expect to properly advise anyone if you can't even acknowledge the reality of what you're dealing with, lol. It was dating, dating_advice, and datingoverthirty. One of them banned me for no reason at all. I guess to them we're just supposed to ignore reality an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:36 PM
9

I'm assuming you're talking about how you prefer to meet potential dates. As shitty as dating apps are, I would still have to say online. At least women somewhat show interest by matching and maybe talking. Plus it's how I've met most of the women that I've been on actual dates with. In person I almost never meet new people unless it's at work. And when it does happen it's never an attractive, single woman. Women also never seem to show clear interest in person. They only seem to acknowledge my …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:00 PM
2

You're ignoring the fact that dating apps allow people to talk to each other. I've heard IRL is supposed to be 10x better for guys and yet I never see guys approaching women anywhere at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:32 PM
2

Imagine if an average guy could download a dating app and have women blowing up his phone trying to get to know him and his personality, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:21 PM
6

Everyone already knows "women are humans". That's right up there with "just be yourself".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 06:13 PM
3

That only depends on whether they find him attractive or not. Just going by dating apps, there's probably an 80%-90% chance he's "not good enough" so that's the most likely response he's going to get. Hence why you didn't have an answer to my question earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:18 PM
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Women almost never give honest feedback. Haven't you seen the advice they give in here? "Take a shower and be nice to her." Lol. Of course you don't understand becoming suicidal. You're probably a woman and therefore too far removed from the experience to even begin to comprehend when it's truly like. It's almost like if I (a guy) was trying to explain to you how to deal with menstrual cramps and went on to say how I don't understand why women complain so much about them. "Just think happy thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:11 PM
3

A.k.a. more environments where women say it's "inappropriate" and/or "creepy" for a guy to go and try to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:03 PM
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Except you can have a job, your own place, be college educated, have plenty of hobbies, and friends, and that's still not "good enough" for the vast majority of women. I think that's where the complaints come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:51 PM
2

They would probably say work, school, or some sort of class. The same environments women say it's "inappropriate" and/or "creepy" for a guy to go and try to meet women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:42 PM
13

Define "incel talking point". Edit: 6 hours later (still crickets).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:06 PM
6

Exactly. They're only farming followers. They typically have 1000+ followers if you check their IG. 99% of which are just dudes trying to get with her. You can't even show up on her radar with that much noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:26 PM
22

Exactly. I've lost count of how many people I've blocked in here just because they resort to middle school tactics, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:43 PM
16

Preach. Pretty sure I saw the video of Norah Vincent on YouTube. I've also seen a testimony of a trans man describing what it's like having 18x (or whatever the figure is) the amount of testosterone in their system for the first time. It was pure gold, lol. Just goes to show that the women that talk the most shit are the most oblivious/ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:38 PM
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VERY true. I've noticed any time I bring up a solid point, that's when I'm called an "incel" and/or "misogynist". All it does is tell me I've won the argument, lol. Those types are just resorting to ad hominem bullshit because they're too butt-hurt to simply say "you know what? I never considered that point." I've literally never seen anyone say that on here. But I've seen all kinds of name calling and trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:02 PM
2

The fact that guys are more visual (i.e. "just wanna fuck") is precisely what makes you "visible" and what puts you on their radar. That's what motivates them to want to engage with you in conversation and get to know you. Now imagine trying to find that guy that actually cares about you while being completely invisible. How would you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:50 PM
1

If "walking outside" was as easy and simple as you're claiming then how is there a market for dating apps? Also, where are these places that a guy can go to meet women "ssoooo easily"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:34 PM
10

Another tactic that seems to be pretty common is to just label you an "incel". They try to invalidate all of your points with a simple label that insinuates that you're irrational and some sort of social outcast freak. That always seems to happen anytime I'm genuinely asking questions and they don't have the answers. It's like they get butt hurt and resort to ad hominem instead of just saying "hey you know what, that's a good point that I didn't consider." I have never seen anyone on here say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:40 AM
1

Because they wanted to. Let's not pretend like they can't just put a selfie on a dating app and have their phones blow up like they're the last woman on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:12 AM
10

Which begs the question, how do you make friends if your interests are male dominated? Social circles are extremely low volume as well. You have to consider the odds that a new friend will be a woman, will be single, will be attractive, will also find him attractive, will actually be looking to date, etc. Every criteria that has to be met makes the odds exponentially lower. So he's practically dealing with dating app odds. Back to square 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:11 AM
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Let me refer you again to exhibit B: (And where is a guy supposed to go to meet women where women won't say it's "weird, creepy, inappropriate, etc."?)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:20 AM
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What sucks the most is if a guy brings up any obstacles in dating at all, the general response is that he's a "whining incel". The guys that try to address the obstacles and/or form some sort of predictive framework for dating as a guy, again the general response is that they're "incels, misogynists, need to touch grass, etc." The vast majority of responses I see are nothing more than ad hominem bullshit that doesn't contribute anything to the conversation. Very rarely do I see actual alternativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:15 AM
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What changes women's standards offline? And where is a guy supposed to go to meet women where women won't say it's "weird, creepy, inappropriate, etc."?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:58 PM
2

Do you mean like a runway model? Cute face but really skinny and no hips, booty, breasts, and kinda tall? No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:17 PM
2

(Just based on that photo. No idea who she is.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 09:11 PM
2

Just watch wheatwaffles on YouTube. He's all about that stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:32 PM
-2

I don't see why they'd be upset. They've already got a sneaky link or 2 (or 3) on speed dial. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:26 PM
3

I actually saw something similar with zoom. You know how a lot of companies used zoom to allow employees to collaborate while they worked from home? I guess it has its own filter and a plastic surgeon said he's had more clients coming to him and asking him to make them look like the zoom filter makes them look. All women of course. It was some Turkish doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:25 PM
1

Same as any guy. You just have to expose yourself to as many women as physically possible. You just aren't going to win as often. If that makes sense. We're all just playing a stupid numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:53 PM
1

I don't see why it wouldn't be physically healthy but the odds of finding your ideal relationship could mentally mess you up. As a guy interested in women, you already have the odds against you. On top of that, women generally want to feel smaller than their man. On top of that, you want a woman that also works out enough to be muscular. And I'm guessing she has to be at least 5'-7" for you so there's that too. Every criteria you have makes the proportion of the population of women that you're d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:33 PM
2

Yeah, every guy is Jeffrey Dahmer levels of fucked up. Except for the guys that she personally knows and that her friends know. That old gag. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:21 PM
3

I think this is true but only for an individual man and in the current dating landscape. If men collectively increased their standards then I don't think women would have nearly as much leverage as they do. Of course, that'll probably never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:14 PM
1

How did you meet him? Online?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:04 PM
1

Very true. Anytime I'm called an "incel" it's only because I made a solid point that someone didn't like, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:39 PM
1

(crickets) Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 06:12 PM
1

There would still be the problem that 90% of them aren't "good enough" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:56 PM
2

I mean when was the last time you heard a guy complain about a "creepy weirdo" woman that made him feel "unsafe"? Probably never.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:43 PM
2

I don't think it's self-esteem issues at all. They're simply referencing their previous experiences of reality. They probably just react that way because it literally never happens. The only time women ever acknowledge my existence is if it's part of their job to do so. Or on the EXTREMELY rare occasion, a mutual friend introduces me. Other than that, I'm totally invisible. Honestly, I could probably easily rob a bank with an all female staff without even trying to hide or be sneaky about it, lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:23 PM
0

Walks and coffee are simple and low investment. And sure they're kind of boring but that's also kind of the point. If he can't simply enjoy her company then doing anything else with her is kinda pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:53 PM
1

I think someone that's a normie (I'm talking full blown NPC), LOVES to drink and smoke weed, is ego driven (all about social media), and happens to be physically attractive, they would have the most enjoyable time dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:37 PM
8

"Nobody we want to talk to ever hits on us." That's where the rubber meets the road. Women are more selective and yet generally don't want to do the approaching. If they did, I think there'd be a lot less wasted time and headache for everyone since they're less likely to be rejected. As it is now, the guys a woman has her eye on might just be out of her league so they don't look her way. Or they don't want to be shamed/clowned for approaching and trying to initiate something. So nothing ever get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:06 PM
3

Please. All of that shit about "muh safety" evaporates into thin air as long as the guy's hot enough. So much bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:12 AM
2

So a guy should "never" describe himself as nice. Yeah that's basically what I was saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:38 PM
2

Wtf does any of that have to do with what I said? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:12 PM
0

Yeah "nobody" has ever found me attractive. That's totally realistic. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:08 PM
3

Yeah I'm sure women are looking for "ambition" while they're browsing on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:07 PM
4

LOL. I'm not Gigachad therefore I lose. Like 90% of the other guys on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:35 AM
-1

Yeah but at what point do they realize that Bruce Wayne is make believe? Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:25 AM
3

Oh, ok so you're some kind of rockstar. "All the women that said yes" lol. Yeah that's believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:21 AM
4

Exceptions don't make the rule. Who knows how many guys she rejected before you. Statistically, they were probably just like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 01:17 AM
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Kinda weird how all of that concern for her own well being evaporates into thin air if the guy is hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:38 AM
2

Standards within reason, sure. Deeming 95% of men as "not good enough" and then complaining about how nobody's good enough isn't reasonable. Not to mention how placing your entire self-worth on that is pretty fucking toxic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:31 AM
1

And I told you why you're wrong with actual points instead of just claiming they were strawman arguments ":)"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:20 AM
1

Yeah but even if a guy makes it past the ELO gimmick he's only got a 5% chance that the woman will match. And that doesn't even mean she's actually interested in talking. And even if she talks, that doesn't necessarily mean that she's interested in meeting in person. There's probably games in Las Vegas with better odds, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:18 AM
0

It's a plus but it's not this make or break huge deal for me. Generally women don't care about common interests. I'm sure when you can meet a guy literally anywhere guys with common interests are a dime a dozen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 12:09 AM
1

The ELO is a factor in which profiles the women see. That's the first hurdle. However the study I linked was showing the proportions that women "liked" and "disliked" so it was a given that they already saw the profile. Otherwise they would not have been able to like/dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:52 PM
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The data is showing the number of likes vs dislikes. Meaning of the profiles the women were presented with, they only "liked" about 5% of them. They passed on the rest. And if the algorithm only showed more attractive profiles more often, then I would think women would be more likely to "like" them. But if they only "like" 5% of them, that doesn't sound like they're only being shown the most attractive profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:13 PM
8

Please. If all it took was a common interest, dating apps would be awesome. But they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:03 PM
2

Maybe you don't understand percentages. Even if the apps had a 1 to 1 man/woman ratio, women would still be 10x more selective because they just are. Even with 4 men for every 1 woman, women STILL complain that nobody's "good enough". How would giving them fewer options fix that? That doesn't make sense. They're making money off of how picky women are and how thirsty guys are. Bars and clubs have been doing it for years long before dating apps and the places are usually sausage fests just like d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:46 PM
2

Exactly. You can't even point it out. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:29 PM
2

Then what point am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:25 PM
1

You would've said that regardless if I said I read it or not, lol. Reading the article does not change the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:06 PM
2

Women only liked about 5% of guys. It's pretty obvious. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:02 PM
6

How is real life any different? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:23 PM
2

And all you have is name calling, lol. Grow the fuck up. "Bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:06 PM
1

None. Cold approaching isn't really a thing anymore. That's exactly what I've been saying. If it were actually a viable method, dating apps wouldn't make nearly as much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:52 PM
2

Not true. Someone might be attractive but you don't know if their personality is short term or long term material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:47 PM
4

Obviously. But even then that does not get you very far.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:41 PM
5

I'm well aware of the algorithms they use but that doesn't control women's minds and make them choose who they find attractive or not, lol. They swipe themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:22 PM
8

So you need Billy fucking Mays to cut you a 30 min sales pitch on the guy? Jesus Christ, lol. If it was a mutual friend then they knew you both and figured you two "might" have chemistry. It's not like they're going to run a full blown eHarmony compatibility analysis on both of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:19 PM
1

This is not some sort of elaborate "gotcha" trolling scheme. I don't gain anything from trolling. I just don't see how IRL is any better than a dating app because women are women. Guys are thirsty both offline and online so women have all the options they want both offline and online. I WISH real life was easier than a dating app because I would delete them and never go back. Every now and then I'll see someone on here say IRL is better but never see anyone approaching or making moves IRL. If it…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:51 PM
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Do you realize how completely fucking random and specific that is? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:38 PM
1

Those "creeps" are basically unattractive guys. If they think only 1 in 50 guys is "good enough" online, I don't see why that changes offline. I'm speaking in a general sense. Not "you" or "me".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:37 PM
4

https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 That data is based on what women selected themselves through their own volition. Not some elaborate mind control algorithm that controls their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:34 PM
1

Then why do women complain about dating apps so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:22 PM
9

And what was his answer "supposed" to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:13 PM
1

I understand what you were responding to. I don't see the analogy. With food and taxi rides, you have options to choose. A dating app is like a last resort if you don't have any other options. It would be more like having to walk because there are no taxis available. Or going hungry for a night because there's no food options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:10 PM
9

Join a dating app as a man. Then get back to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:05 PM
6

You have to define "good options". As do women that disagree with this post. The discrepancies in the definitions would be easy to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:01 PM
1

A lot of those guys are simply taking whatever they can get. They just go about their lives and a woman shows interest, they know they're in the clear to make a move. So they do. I don't see the analogy with fast food and/or taxis. Nobody is going to shame me and call me a "creepy weirdo" for choosing to cook or take an Uber or whatever the connection was lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:55 PM
15

"Hi. I'm clean cut, financially secure, attractive, and law abiding." Let me know how that works out as your dating app bio. Lol. Pretty sure guys that describe themselves as such are labeled "nice guys". Not the normal version but the tainted internet version.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:39 PM
1

Still doesn't make sense. If IRL is so much better then there wouldn't be a market for dating apps. Every guy could just approach IRL and have a 100x better chance. Plus women still get guys hitting on them through social media, maybe cold approaches, and definitely other guys within her social circle. It's not like it only happens through dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:36 PM
6

Exactly. Nobody cares. But that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:20 PM
1

I said what changes their standards. Not asking how many guys they compare you to. For example, on dating apps it's very common for women to only be interested in guys "6ft or taller". You could show them 1000 guys that are all shorter than 6ft and they won't care because none of them meet her standard of "6ft or taller".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:15 PM
5

???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:58 PM
1

I'm well aware "all" women aren't on dating apps. That's obvious. They're playing on easy mode. They don't need dating apps. The world is already their "dating app" for that matter. I'm not "trying to think of a perfect world". That was a mathematical example to explain to you how percentages work lol. That still doesn't answer the question of why/how their standards change offline vs online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:57 PM
8

You say "be better" and then mention hygiene. Hygiene is one of the main platitudes women use to advise men on how to get better results in dating when the vast majority already practice basic hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:42 PM
5

Sure you don't. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:37 PM
2

Ppffffttt. A negligible minority, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:36 PM
10

"be better" is pretty vague, lol. Are you one of those women that think taking a shower will give a man the sex life of a rockstar?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:35 PM
22

Pretty sure people only say that to women that date abusive guys and always go back to them and then complain after consistently choosing those types of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:28 PM
1

Oh ok so "you" decide what people mean when they use certain words. I always thought people decided themselves. I was so lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:24 PM
2

Then why aren't men chasing rich women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:21 PM
3

So you're saying women are primarily interested in money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:19 PM
1

If women care about a guy's personality then why does the 5 sec swipe test matter? If that were true dating apps would be awesome because guys would be getting all kinds of dates with women interested in getting to know them for more than their looks. But that's exactly what's NOT happening. That's exactly how the dating apps get the guys to pay. They're essentially profiting from how picky women are and how desperate men are. Pretty fucked up if you think about it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:44 PM
0

??? You mean hookups and relationships? Obviously they're different but there's no chance for either one if the person won't even talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:21 PM
3

They only "think" they're in demand. Otherwise dating apps would be awesome for women. But they complain about dating apps just as much as guys. Except their reason is that nobody's "good enough". They're being choosy but they probably aren't being reasonable. The reasonable women with realistic standards and a realistic idea of how in demand they are get snatched up immediately so they're almost never even on the market. I've heard guys say that meeting IRL is better than online but I don't see…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:19 PM
1

It's not a matter of quantity. Women only "like" 5% of men's profiles based on the tinder study from last year. That means even if you have a 1/1 ratio of men to women, dating apps would still be a shit show. If 100 men and 100 women joined the app, only 5 guys would be able to date regularly and consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:03 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:59 PM
1

More forgiving to give any chance at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:39 PM
8

I'm saying that women are playing on easy mode because guys are way more forgiving when it comes to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:22 PM
17

Look up the stats on any dating app and you'll see just how much more forgiving guys are with looks than women are. Men "like" a much larger proportion of women's profiles than women "like" men's profiles. A simple Google search blows this post clean out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:11 PM
13

Anytime a guy makes similar points the knee-jerk response is to attempt to invalidate his points by slapping labels on him. "You're just a bitter incel misogynist" and the like. They don't even acknowledge the points being made. Only attack the guy making them. But since you're a woman the triggered knee-jerk response is "you must be a man". They probably don't even realize how easily they default to misandry rather than simply admit that dealing with women in the context of dating might be a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:07 PM
23

They just say that looks don't matter and stuff because it sounds nice and it pushes the narrative that women are "sugar, spice, and everything nice". However if a guy breaks kayfabe and calls out the bullshit, he's socially crucified with labels like "incel" and/or "misogynist" etc. They do that in order to discourage other guys from doing the same. Happens ALL the damn time in this sub. They won't refute the points being made but they will talk shit about the guy making the points until they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:22 PM
1

??? Ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:57 AM
1

There are grown ass women with astrology shit on their profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:44 AM
1

I think it's more accurate to say that dating apps have removed the rose colored glasses that you've been wearing all your life that you've been viewing women through. You're seeing the unfavorable reality of the situation. That's exactly why they call it the red pill. I'm sure when they're swiping through guys on apps all they see is your height and whatever your photos imply about your bank account. There was a study from tinder only last year that showed women are like 5x more superficial tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:43 AM
1

Pretty much. There's so many desperate guys out there that a woman's existence gets her enough attention for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:21 PM
2

They just meet whoever is within their proximity via circumstances. The women decide who's attractive and who's not. The attractive guys are free to make advances and then that's when the dating happens and ultimately pairing off. If the unattractive guys try, it's "creepy".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:13 PM
2

Like that stops any women from going out, lol. Come on. I'd advise you stop "needing" alcohol just to relax and have fun in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:32 PM
0

Sorry I'm not a roofie expert, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:27 PM
2

So don't drink it unless the bartender hands it to you themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:24 PM
3

Not being obsessed with social media is a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:48 PM
1

They got birth charts and all kinds of hardcore astrology shit now. I think they're trying to calculate when Gigachad will call them back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:47 PM
3

Not sure how true that is. I've heard of plenty of places that have "ladies night". Even a gokart place near me has ladies night, lol. Not "10/10 ladies only night".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:57 PM
3

Except if I say anything positive about myself, you're just going to claim I'm lying because it can't be proven or disproven. So it's probably quicker if you just get to your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:29 PM
2

Does it matter what I say?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:16 PM
1

I'll take that as a "no".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:02 PM
2

Do you understand what speaking in general terms is?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:56 PM
1

Good for you but that doesn't change what I've observed in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:32 PM
5

When she said I was being "pathetic and whiney". It's in English "bro". Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 05:24 PM
1

Don't they get in for free? Plus the random dudes buying them drinks. The whole clubbing experience seems like it could be totally free for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:13 PM
2

Sounds like the sims puts you in control of your own Lifetime original movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:11 PM
5

I was just referencing the same stuff I always see copied and pasted on women's dating profiles, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:09 PM
3

Do you like tacos, craft beer, traveling, and watching the office too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:06 PM
4

I don't think you answered why it's "pathetic". It's literally just a synonym for an insanely attractive guy (so attractive that it's comical. Hence the Giga prefix). Not "non-incels".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:59 PM
10

Not sure why you'd attack someone if you aren't offended. But ok. Gigachad is just a funny term for an attractive guy. How is that "pathetic and whiney"? Please connect those dots because I'm completely lost, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:03 PM
5

What does that even mean? Why is Gigachad offensive? You people don't make any sense lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:57 PM
4

Whatever helps you sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:44 PM
11

Triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:41 PM
2

You're breaking my balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 02:38 PM
72

Putting in massive amounts of time and energy into their looks and then complaining about unwanted male attention. Go to the gym to workout and take selfies for social media. Starbucks. Scrolling, posting, watching Instagram and TikTok. Checking DMs for Gigachad. Astrology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:35 PM
4

I could just declare myself the winner too and defeat you using your own logic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:33 AM
2

Did you read what I said? Or are you responding to yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:31 PM
2

Define "high quality man" and then define "high quality woman". See how they're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:28 PM
0

That has crossed my mind too. Women can make their own money now but we hear shit like "men aren't economically attractive anymore". Women want to make equal to what a man makes but if he doesn't pay on the date then he's not a "real man". Like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:35 PM
1

This kind of reminds me of this video I saw yesterday https://youtu.be/6XwgvrYnk2A some women like the one in your example don't have the self awareness of what makes them feel attraction but even when they do like the woman in the video she struggles to put it into words. Wish they'd elaborate on this. If it's even possible lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:22 PM
1

There was a Tinder study from last year that showed women are definitely more visual than men. They only "liked" about 5% of men's profiles whereas men liked about 50% of women's profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:51 PM
7

Well the guy actually had to work and earn the woman's intimacy. So when she cheats it's like losing something he's invested in heavily. Then he has to start all over with someone new and find them first. If a guy cheats on a woman then she can simply say "oh well" and choose from the 50 other guys waiting in line. She is in total abundance while the man is in scarcity. I've also noticed this in wedding videos/photos I've seen from random people. It's usually the groom crying and being overcome …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:46 PM
1

I think it's purely a cultural thing. There are other cultures that are a little more "anti-women" so I don't think they could exist if it were biologically ingrained in us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:35 PM
0

Women have a tendency to view themselves as some sort of special exception to the rule lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:15 PM
1

You might as well be asking how long an invisible man would have to hang out at a bar/club before an approach/IOI.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:09 PM
2

Off the top of my head I know of realfemsapien and justpearlythings on YouTube. And maybe Melanie King.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:54 PM
1

You could also break up those groups as no kids and single moms. Anytime I see stuff like "tired of the games" and/or "God first" on a woman's dating app profile, she's a single mom 9 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:50 PM
4

It "might" not be reasonable? It just comes off as pure entitlement. A common saying among the red pill guys is that "women don't want to build. They want to move in." Those TikTok quotes are just kind of confirming that. It's like they don't want to have to put in any work or earn anything at all. They just want to be valued for existing. "They know their worth" and similar social media bullshit only encourages arrogance and narcissism. There's too many women that follow that shit like a religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 05:12 PM
7

I actually found it. Looks like it was some TikTok bullshit. No wonder it spread like wildfire LOL. https://www.dailydot.com/irl/hinge-profile-dating-culture/ As far as showing interest and making an effort that doesn't really make sense since women typically have 10x as many options as any guy they're talking to. How is he supposed to take her seriously when she's ready to drop him at a moment's notice for literally any reason? It's like they want to be treated as if they've been an awesome, lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:46 PM
8

It hasn't been that way for me. Even just with dating it seems like women typically want the guy to decide where they're going and what they're doing/eating. Which reminds me I recently started to notice a new thing women are copying and pasting into their bios. They seem to want a guy that "makes dinner reservations" (i.e. he plans the date entirely).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:14 PM
6

I don't see why not but generally I don't think that's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:02 PM
10

I'm not saying the woman mindlessly follows. Obviously that's not realistic. The guy just takes the lead in that he already has a plan in mind. He informs the woman of it and then she's free to give her input. They can discuss it from there. He doesn't just ask. Not sure how else to describe it. The teams within hierarchies work towards a goal that was decided by an authority. Or maybe even a vote. It's not just everyone doing their own thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:43 PM
17

Yeah, I don't know if submissive is necessarily the right word because obviously the woman has to be fine with things too so her input has to be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:19 PM
5

Decisions won't get made and things won't get done. "Where do you want to eat?" Or "what do you want to do today?" I think women are usually annoyed by questions like that. Plus, humans usually need a hierarchical structure in order for groups to achieve goals. That's why businesses or militaries have this structure. Otherwise they would be full of people just sort of doing their own things and larger goals wouldn't get done. It would be sort of chaotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:14 PM
9

I think I've only gotten compliments from friends. Women never really talk to me unless it's part of their job to acknowledge me or if I match with them on a dating app (and even then, that's a big IF). Other than that, I'm invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:00 PM
1

So I guess a brown Spanish guy would be completely invisible to Japanese and Korean women? Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:10 PM
17

The theory is that she will lose respect and attraction for a guy that follows her lead. Maybe it works for some couples but in general I think I've heard women prefer the guy to take the lead. If both are trying to take the lead then of course they will buttheads and that's not exactly "peace".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:56 PM
2

This is so fucking true. I've been banned from the main dating subs on here just for pointing out how much easier it is for women to get matches on dating apps or how women are generally going to have 10x as many options as any guy that's talking to her. It's like the mainstream just wants to push this narrative that men and women are "totally" equal and if a guy questions that or makes any point against that then he's an "incel". He's immediately lumped in with the homicidal/suicidal misogynist…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:57 PM
3

If he does, then where does he go to meet women that are crazy about average guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:27 PM
63

I think it just means that she's chill, reasonable, and generally follows the guy's lead. She facilitates peace and makes the home warm. As opposed to "a bad bitch and nobody can tell her what to do" which only makes her a headache. The guy loathes going home to her at the end of the day because it's just going to be more bullshit to deal with after a day of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 12:17 PM
1

And I'm sure there's no shortage of easy male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:07 AM
3

Yeah. The sky is falling right now. In 2 weeks nobody will care and there will be something new on social media to talk about, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:26 PM
2

I wasn't making fun of anyone. The point was that homosexual relationships are widely accepted now. Sure there's still some hillbillies that might be against it but I've seen plenty of gay couples holding hands in public and nobody said a word. Just as it should be. Sounds like you're just grasping at straws and desperately trying to change the subject. So go troll someone else with your name calling and whatever other bullshit that floats your boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:46 PM
13

It's really ironic. Anytime the topic is incels they tell them "stop whining, no sex won't kill you." but then women vehemently fight tooth and nail for abortion rights when they can simply not have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:34 PM
1

I wasn't aware that was the "only" video in existence. But ok then why didn't she get any results? Did she do any of things you mentioned? "Whining, depressive mindest, entitlement, etc."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:02 PM
2

LOL. Anytime someone makes a solid point in here you people just go straight to name calling. That is so typical of this sub-reddit. I don't think any of you even realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:59 PM
2

Thanks lady but I'm not an incel. And if you want to talk about the focal point of society, I don't remember the last time I saw a "straight" festival being held anywhere but Pride events for LGBTQ people are the bee's knees now, lol. My city is supposed to have one this year and it's expected to have more people attend than it's ever had. When you get the time check out this video if you haven't seen it before (maybe you have): https://youtu.be/DZTIbHIsIYw Why didn't she get anyone to agree to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:56 PM
4

I would agree with that. I've seen plenty of women that are kind of overweight but it's in all the right places and I still found them attractive. I think it's a common misconception among women to think that "skinny = beauty". I've never been a fan of the emaciated look.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:43 PM
1

Then why don't I EVER hear about that but "incel" (typically heterosexual men) is a mainstream term?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:33 PM
1

How does that improve things for the average straight guy? I don't see what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:28 PM
1

The dating app studies and reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:26 PM
11

I would say ≈ 27% is where it looks like the hourglass figure starts to erode. But I don't know, there could be women with 27% body fat but it's all hips, booty, thighs, breasts and she still has a tight waist. I might still find that attractive but I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:24 PM
1

Most straight guys are still invisible regardless of what homosexual people experience so I don't see how that makes things any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:09 PM
1

I said as a "guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:55 AM
2

Join a dating app as a guy. Try to have a few conversations. Then get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:12 AM
2

??? I didn't say any of that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:59 AM
4

Most of them don't even talk and ask the guy questions to see how smart he is. It's just "6ft or taller".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:49 AM
1

I wonder if clubs are even still viable now with social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:48 PM
4

Say something they don't like and you're either gay or an incel. Those are the two main arguments I see on here from them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 10:19 PM
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I can agree with that. I think that's why dating opportunities are usually better for guys while they're in school. They're in proximity to a decent number of women that can't instantly swipe left because they realized they didn't reach orgasm just by glancing at him. Although women almost never speak up about their interest in my experience. And if the guy tries to initiate when the woman isn't interested, now he's a "weirdo, creep, he's being inappropriate, etc. etc.". And after that they stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:50 PM
2

There's no point. In her mind, she did the equivalent (if not more than) asking him out, lol. She doesn't realize it only makes sense between her ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:32 PM
1

Rationalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:54 PM
2

LOL. He can't read your mind. I guess women just have this thing where they absolutely must maintain plausible deniability at any and all costs. Even if it means losing someone they actually want. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:17 PM
3

"dumb" is playing stupid games and not just being straightforward about what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:14 PM
1

That just sounds like he could've been neck deep in the friend zone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:10 PM
5

We're essentially clever monkeys that have technology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:42 PM
11

They just say that because it sounds good, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:40 PM
0

I don't understand because their chances of rejection are generally much less.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:37 PM
4

I never understood why women play those stupid games of "dropping hints" rather than just being straightforward about it. Sure it will suck if he's not interested but it's not like he's going to think she's "creepy" afterwards or be concerned for his safety or some shit. Plus their chances of being rejected are WAY better than if the guy initiated it. So I don't see what the issue is. I've had that happen to me though when I was younger. Apparently some girls I kinda knew found me attractive but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:49 PM
4

Mic drop. And just to elaborate on point 3, people love to point out the physical advantages men have over women ALL the fucking time but nobody ever talks about the social advantages women have over men. With the perfect example of amber turd and Johnny Depp. Legally, he's innocent until proven guilty but socially, he was guilty until proven innocent. But that clearly points out an advantage women have over men and doesn't follow the narrative that "women are inherently victims just for existin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:26 PM
0

Preach. I'm pretty sure guys are more likely than women to be victims of violent crimes. I don't have a link but I do remember seeing statistics on that. It's so ridiculous when women speak about men like we're kryptonians or some shit. Plus, it's Texas. I don't think there's anything stopping a woman from getting a concealed weapons permit if she feels it necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:12 PM
3

I think it just shows how truly oblivious they are to what guys have to deal with, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:03 PM
8

Can attest. I started taking showers a couple of years ago and now I'm 6'-8". But my doctor said I needed to slow down to only 1 shower per month. I'm also now packing 12" after I started being myself. Thanks PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:00 PM
1

I don't know any posts in particular but it's always funny when someone makes a solid point to see all of the triggered responses calling them names and the shaming/trolling tactics people resort to to defend their own biases, lol. Most probably don't even realize they're doing it. It's like they're merely NPCs carrying out their programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:47 PM
3

I agree with you but I think the status quo is too good for women for it to change anytime soon. We've had the numbers from dating apps for a while now. There's about a 90%-95% chance that they don't want anything to do with a guy after a quick glance. So it works in their favor if cold approaches aren't socially acceptable because more often than not, they won't be interested anyway. Plus, it's extremely convenient to be able to frame the situation as the guy committing some sort of social faux…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 02:38 PM
4

I think that's a huge factor that society is missing. There is no sense of community pretty much anywhere. Like there's no town square where it's normal for people to just hang out and socialize. I think the closest thing we have are bars/clubs but they have a certain stigma associated with them. Plus, some people are REAL fucking weirdos that don't smoke or drink and never even cared for them or the social validation that comes with them (like me). Other than those environments, it's considered…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:18 PM
3

It purely depends on the woman, I think. Some of them would immediately categorize the guy as "weird" just for trying to cold approach and ask them out. It's like asking her out is the reason for the rejection in and of itself. It's pretty mind numbing but that's modern women for you. Or a decent amount of them, at least. You never know what their mentality is if it's a cold approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:16 PM
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Yup. It was the same for John Wayne Gacy. He was very sociable and well-spoken. He was also always involved in clubs and groups. Even threw parties and knew a LOT of people. Sweep all that under the rug though. They're just facts after all. The word "creepy" gets thrown around so much. It hardly has a concrete definition. But it always seems to make sense if you view it as a synonym for "unattractive".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:40 AM
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Sounds like the heyday of myspace. When social media was only supplemental to life instead of at the core of it. That was probably the sweet spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:19 PM
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"No mutual friends therefore Ted Bundy/Jeffery dahmer". That old gag. I doubt any of them actually believe that but I do think that's just a social trick they use to distance themselves from guys they don't find attractive but without appearing superficial. But of course, calling it out makes you an "incel" or "misogynist". How convenient. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:02 PM
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That too. I've seen posts from women in other subs asking why only older guys hit on them and I figured that was the reason. Although at 33 I feel like I just missed that boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:12 PM
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I think the majority of guys that do it know it's kinda weird. They probably just view it as a last resort Hail Mary tactic because they know they would never get a chance to meet her and get to know her otherwise. Some guys aren't constantly surrounded by single and attractive women that they can meet and get to know naturally on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:59 PM
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Exactly. If I still had the link to that study I would put it right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:40 PM
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I don't know. I don't personally know anyone that has tried an edgy hairstyle. Anytime I've heard those comments it's just from people in general talking about a guy. Seems like the only way a guy can get away with it is if he's rich and famous. Like bad bunny or post Malone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 08:21 PM
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I think that's spot on. We're all running on outdated software in our monkey brains that society and technology have outpaced. That's why the plight of the modern single woman is that nobody's "good enough". Even though the average guy can provide the resources required for survival. Even the woman can provide these for herself and children now but still, guys are never good enough. Those types of women are completely being run by their "quality" circuit. Likewise, there's guys that act like the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:50 PM
2

Until TeraChad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:23 PM
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Could you link a photo example? Something tells me "style" is just more expensive clothes lol. And an example of "stylish hair that stands out" would be interesting to see too. Pretty much anytime I've seen a guy try to stand out with a unique hairstyle, people just call him a douchebag.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 07:09 PM
2

Your ad hominem bullshit only proves I'm getting my point across and you're becoming butt-hurt about it, lol. 1) yeah because they don't have to be. The world is their dating app. they're playing on easy mode. 2) yeah sure, I guess you can technically say your odds are "increasing". A 1.01% chance is indeed higher than a 1% chance. I'll concede that point, lol. And yes, most men don't approach because they know what the most likely outcome is going to be. women think most guys are below average.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 04:04 PM
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To my understanding it's just a term for the type of guy the vast majority of women want. He's "above average". He has the type of dating/sex life most guys wish they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:46 PM
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1) I never really saw the appeal unless you're in a "won the lottery" type of situation like your brother. Otherwise it just seems like a brick and mortar OF. 2) Nope. 3) I don't get it but much like with OF, it's their money so they can spend it however they want. To each his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:20 PM
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I agree that average = invisible. Still wondering how personality matters if the woman doesn't even care to talk to the guy in the first place. And since you mentioned it, I'd love to see examples of how an average guy is "supposed" to dress in order to be seen. Also, what type of hair is he "supposed" to have, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:24 PM
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that absurdly inflated abundance of men giving her attention/validation is in her purse or pocket 24/7. yeah, because if she's not into them (which is most likely the case) they would be shamed for trying to talk to her (creep, weirdo, etc.) if that's true then why don't I see guys constantly approaching women all the time? I see attractive women pretty regularly but I never see anyone go up to them and talk to them. maybe you could have her attention for about 5-10 minutes. After that you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:57 PM
1

I said I don't see why women's standards would change offline vs online. I'm not sure what you mean by "from the start".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:21 PM
1

From the getgo?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:15 PM
2

Pretty much anytime I see a guy that looks very similar to me that's with a decently attractive woman. I can't fathom how he possibly met her or how she even looked in his general direction other than pure dumb luck on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:04 PM
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Extremely. I'm a guy and only 5'-8". I see women I'm interested in pretty regularly. It's just that meeting them in a natural way that doesn't come off entirely forced seems impossible. Yeah but I've made a habit out of exercising regularly and never cared for smoking and drinking and shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:58 AM
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With the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if it was normal for women to carry a tape measure in their purse in 10 years lol. And that doesn't make any sense. Obviously being in someone's physical presence is more risky than talking through a phone. They literally can't physically harm you through a phone. Like wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:04 PM
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It wasn't a dark abandoned alley at 3am. There was a lot of foot traffic in the area. Very busy with a lot of people walking around or just standing/sitting and talking. It wouldn't be much different from approaching at an event like a concert or something. It was around 5pm so the sun was still up. Not pitch black or anything. I understand that the people could've just met. My point is that if cold approach was a common thing, I would've seen at least ONE guy go up to a woman and introduce hims…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:48 PM
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That's kind of their only option when they view everyone as "less attractive" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:34 PM
2

Generally people don't talk to others that aren't already in their group. I was even in the downtown part of my city a few weekends ago and didn't see a single approach. I even noticed 2 or 3 young and attractive women walking alone and nobody went up to them. There's restaurants, bars, and plenty of foot traffic in that area. If it's not happening there then I don't know where in the hell it would be happening. The second paragraph just sounds like regular socializing to me. I wouldn't even nec…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 09:04 PM
3

Don't some dating apps let you upload videos or gifs? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:40 PM
3

I know guys that have jobs and hobbies but haven't had girlfriend in forever. One of them not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:37 PM
2

If that's true then why don't I ever see guys cold approaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:35 PM
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Well he's balding so probably no haircuts. Probably just lazered off all of his hair and jawzrsized until he looked like the rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:33 PM
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He probably has a photo of himself taking a shower and being himself. That slick bastard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:12 PM
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Except women clearly don't seem to care if they will reject a guy without a second thought before any of that stuff factors in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:09 PM
2

Yeah, I don't see the analogy there. A healthy body is not the purpose of takeout. But it sounds like you want to go on and nauseam about semantics so have fun with that. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:05 PM
1

Yeah but that's mainly through dumb luck. Just like apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:59 PM
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Where did I say that dating apps are convenient? 16,000 swipes and 3 dates that led nowhere is not my definition of convenient at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:54 PM
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That just sounds like dating in general. With or without an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:40 PM
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This post is literally showing you how dating apps are most definitely NOT convenient. And it actually kind of does, lol. You're probably blind to it because you're a woman but usually a guy can only meet a woman in very specific circumstances that are very few and far in between. Some night venues might offer a way around that but the guys usually have to pay to get in and/or wait in line. And if he does somehow manage to get a woman to agree to go on a date, the guy is generally expected to pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:27 PM
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Real life is definitely a sausage fest too. Any woman that's half way decent looking already has someone 9 times out of 10. That's not even factoring in the sub "5%" chance that she would even want to talk to the guy in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:16 PM
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I hear that a lot but if nobody's good enough online then I don't see what changes in the real world. If the real world were significantly better, there would be no market for dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:04 PM
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Nope. I'm pretty sure women don't give a running, swimming, or flying fuck about whether the guy they're looking at purchased Tinder Gold or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:39 PM
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There's plenty of Tinder Sankey diagrams telling that exact same story. Nobody's "good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 05:29 PM
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That is SO fucking true about when they don't have any sort of counter arguments. I've lost count of the number of people I've had to block in here simply because all they have is name calling and ad hominem bullshit that doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. I think I blocked 2 or 3 just today alone. Resorting straight to those middle school tactics only shows just how triggered they are, lol. But likewise, all it really does is verify that I've made a solid point. Otherwise they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:21 PM
1

Meh. I think it would just feel kind of weird to me. And kind of like I was being taken for a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:59 PM
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In that case, I was assumed to be a liar by default so I don't think it would've mattered what I had said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:39 PM
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It's so weird to me how we're shamed and socially crucified for liking/wanting sex in general. We just have to completely kayfabe it lest we be labeled "creep, weirdo, pervert, etc." and have our mental health get called into question. But as soon as a woman wants us, we BETTER be a sexual beast pornstar sex god with a fucking black belt in kama sutra, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:24 PM
1

I've had that happen too. Mostly when I was in school. Supposedly there were girls that liked me but I had no idea until a mutual friend told me 1 or 2 years after the fact. They never treated me any different than they treated anyone else but had I known, I would've been all over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:17 PM
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So in summary, guys should just lie their asses off because they're never "good enough" regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:11 PM
1

SO fucking true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:08 PM
2

Does that kind of mean that if a younger woman (let's say early 20's) is showing interest in an older guy (let's say early 30's) then she's more likely only looking for a short term fling with him? Likewise if the woman is showing interest in a guy that's close to her age then she's more likely looking for something long term with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:55 PM
2

Go troll someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:15 PM
3

LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:10 PM
3

It's a personal attack based on mere conjecture. YOU do better. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:03 PM
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Triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:01 PM
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As if she would put that much thought into it? Lol. It's 2022. Everyone just takes things at face value. After that she didn't care what the story was. She was just gone. That says it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:23 AM
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Then what's the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:09 AM
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Not really. Not having a girlfriend doesn't mean I've never dated or had sex. Or that "no woman has ever found me attractive". That's not even realistic. Plus women are always on about "muh safety" unless of course it's Gigachad. Then all of a sudden the safety concern vanishes into thin air, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 02:53 AM
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Just lie about it. Just say you've only been with one or two women. It will take away the stigma but still communicates the inexperience. I didn't lose until I was 28. Before then, I remember it kind of came up in conversation with a woman I had been talking to on a dating app for about a week. I had told her I hadn't had a girlfriend before (not necessarily that I was still a virgin) but even so, she said that she didn't believe me because I seemed like a "good/cool guy". After that message, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:02 AM
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Yeah I've heard that shit a million times. I always ask how personality matters if no women care enough to talk to the guy in the first place. I never get an answer to that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 02:34 PM
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Any guy that's not "attractive". So probably about 80%-90% of us lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:24 PM
5

Oh ok. So you're a troll. Good thing there won't be a next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:03 PM
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You've completely lost me. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:00 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:57 PM
3

I didn't say they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:53 PM
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I don't think that's the issue. If they were all Gigachads something tells me you would find the time, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:51 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:37 PM
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I don't think that's ever stopped people before. I just know that based on dating apps, women don't even want to talk to the vast majority of men. So that seems to be putting the brakes on everything before it can even get started.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:04 AM
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I think the birth rate is already slowing down, so we'll probably just see more of that. With the recession setting in, I can see them easily recycling the "not enough economically attractive men" news article again. Maybe they'll try to push it a little farther with "men aren't tall enough, men don't take enough showers, etc. etc." But the main point will be that it's "all men's fault" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 10:53 PM
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THANK YOU. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:23 PM
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He's probably been a decent human being for his entire life and that hasn't gotten him anywhere with dating, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:21 PM
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Sounds like the product of YEARS of "know your worth, kween, never settle, you're beautiful no matter what, etc." mental programming lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:25 PM
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Pretty much any dating app tells the exact same story. The plight of the modern single woman. Nobody's tall enough, makes enough money, looks good enough, etc. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:18 PM
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That sounds pretty average for the most part. Which is weird because it still defies everything I've ever seen about dating apps lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:27 PM
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Yeah, no shit, lady lol. The links to studies in that timeframe didn't really seem to differentiate between men and women. The data in the article itself says it's going from data taken within the 2006-2010 timeframe. Which is definitely before smartphones.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:30 PM
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Meh. Seems to be mainly data from a pre-smartphone era. I wouldn't say that's relevant today. And it doesn't really make sense that guys would have more sexual partners on average than women but at least they acknowledged the fact that men tend to lie up and women tend to lie down, lol. Women have dick on speed-dial now. In their pocket. 25 hours per day, 8 days per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:17 PM
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You're literally just defining "average" with "average" lol. How tall are they? About how much money do they make? Are they white? Objective things like that. I hear the personality thing a lot but women don't even match with "most" men. There's a tinder study from just last year that showed women rejecting about 95% of guys before they even spoke to them. So personality didn't even have a chance to factor in. And maybe you've seen the YouTube video from Alexander Grace where he gets his female …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:26 PM
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I'd be curious to know what year they conducted that study. Sounds outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:05 PM
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That goes directly against pretty much all of the examples and studies I've ever seen on online dating but ok. Define "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:01 PM
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It would be pretty cool to see at least one of you women create a dating profile as a guy and then try to get a woman to agree to meet up with you. Report back to us every week on how invisible (or not) you feel. That would be interesting, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:54 PM
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I think that's pretty spot on. Women are told to "know your worth, never settle, you're beautiful no matter what, etc. etc." Meanwhile their SMV is decreasing with age. Guys are already overly thirsty just from the testosterone. That makes them pursue as many women as possible which gives women too many options to handle. Thereby making them even more picky and guys consequently even more thirsty which makes them chase women even harder. So on, and so forth. It's a self perpetuating cycle that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:26 PM
0

So fucking true. I always try to be as objective as possible but it's not uncommon for someone to try to invalidate what I'm saying by attempting to attribute some sort of emotion to what I had said. "You're just angry" and "you're just bitter" are probably as common as the "incel" response. All that shit basically means is "I don't like what you said, I can't logically refute it, and I don't like how it makes me feel."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:52 PM
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I always found it funny how a common response women have to incels is "no sex won't kill you" but if that topic is contraception and/or abortion, somehow that point never seems to find its way into the discussion. They'll literally protest for days and yell about it until they're blue in the face rather than simply not have sex, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:57 PM
1

To provide single people an opportunity to meet someone and make bank off of single guys and ads. The average person is usually kinda dumb. That's just a fact lol. Nowhere did I say I was some "superior genius mastermind" but to act like it would definitely be childish.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:30 PM
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You are correct. Nobody is going to match with the ugliest person they've ever seen. That's the point. It was an extreme example to illustrate the point that your attraction to someone is independent of the quantity of available options you have. Therefore the man/woman ratio doesn't matter. It makes no sense at all that you would talk to guys that you did not find attractive. There's nothing motivating you to talk to them. If you don't care to talk to them then their intelligence, sense of humo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 07:25 PM
1

I couldn't tell if you were just trolling or being genuine so that's why I responded that way. I don't think the horrible man/woman ratio has anything to do with it. Even if there were 1 man for every 1 woman on dating apps, women would still be rejecting 95% of them because it's just a percentage so it's not dependent on the total quantity. It's sort of like if I gave you 10 options and one of them was the ugliest person you had ever seen, me removing the other 9 options doesn't make you any mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:20 PM
1

Maybe explain and elaborate on your point instead of asking stupid questions lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 06:01 PM
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Of course they do. Generally men are just way more reasonable about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:52 PM
1

Maybe before smartphones existed, sure. But she's most likely on social media. Most likely has an inbox full of dudes. Even if she's not on dating apps. You might meet her in person and exchange contact info but after you part ways you're just another notification.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:32 PM
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I don't see how/why their standards would change so drastically online vs offline. The whole point of dating apps is to meet in person anyway. Plus anytime I've ever heard a woman talk about a guy that tried to approach her and talk to her, 9 times out of 10 she's complaining that he was "weird, creepy, etc." That seems to align with dating apps pretty well. I don't think I've ever heard a woman say "he was so cool and nice. I'm glad he approached me and I'm excited for our date this weekend."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 05:21 PM
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There's nothing wrong with dating apps. They serve their purpose. The problem is when people match with others they have no interest in talking to. I know guys do it because they're desperate for a match but I have no idea why women do it. I just know if people could follow that mind numbingly simple rule, that would solve most of the dating app issues but it's just "too much" for the average person to comprehend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:45 PM
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Yes, I understand that. But women's idea of "average" is at 8/10. Therefore a 7/10 would be considered "below average" .
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:36 PM
1

Depends who's rating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:18 PM
1

Not necessarily. That's what I'm talking about. An objective 7/10 guy could be considered "attractive" by men but "below average" by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:02 PM
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I think the 80/20 stuff is kind of important. It shows that in order to be considered "average" by a woman a guy has to be more attractive than 80% of men. But men would say a guy only has to be more attractive than 50% of men to be considered "average".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:48 PM
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"Will he get me pregnant again tonight? Or punch me in the face? Maybe he'll wreck my car driving drunk on his way home." Yeah, real fucking "thrilling". Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:29 PM
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He's an impulsive dumbass that's dead weight on society. I'm never going to see where the thrill is in that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:21 PM
1

I get what you're trying to say but people are playing tinder in their heads whenever they're out and about. If she glances at a guy she probably can't help but to mentally swipe him left or right. If Danny DeVito goes up to her and says "hello beautiful" she'll say it was creepy and weird. If Chris Hemsworth does it, it's confident and charming. It's probably so fast and automatic for them they don't even realize what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 03:10 PM
0

Have you seen the dating app studies? Women reject most men after simply looking at them. His self esteem and sense of self worth don't even get a chance to factor into the equation unless she cares enough to talk to him first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:47 PM
2

What's weird is that she's a hard worker, supports herself and her kids, and seems to have a totally good head on her shoulders. Except for when it comes to dating. With dating common sense just goes right out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:42 PM
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Reminds me of my sister. She met this one guy that was a total dumbass. Alcohol problems, couldn't keep a job, couldn't drive, didn't have a car, in and out of jail for DUIs and fighting. What does she do? Goes to the courthouse, marries the guy, and proceeds to have two kids with him. Then is somehow shocked when he turns out to be physically abusive and cheats on her. She chose to stay with him out of "love" but eventually snapped out of it and left him. She probably had plenty of other guys s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 02:27 PM
1

Anytime I see deliberate misinterpretations and strawman arguments like that I just block them. It really improves the experience of this sub. They aren't contributing anything to the discussion. It's just trolling, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 01:09 PM
1

I've heard some guys say that but it honestly doesn't make sense. I don't see why/how a woman's standards would change between offline and real life. Plus every time a woman has talked about a guy that approaches and tried to talk to her, they always say he was "creepy" and/or "weird". That aligns perfectly with what dating apps shows. "Nobody's good enough". I've never heard a woman say that she was glad that a guy approached her randomly and that she liked him. Also, I see attractive women on …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:51 PM
1

Yes so they have shitty personalities and they usually form their entire identity around their looks. So They almost always have nothing else going for them. Which I guess is to be expected when they're so heavily incentivized by society to lead with their looks. The OKC article is from 2015. That's where the 80/20 rule comes from. The Tinder article is only from last year. That's where women only "liked" 5% of men's profiles. So it only shows that things are getting worse. Of course I'm curious…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:39 PM
1

I don't think they care if it's a logical paradox. They just want it. The topic has come up on a few of the podcasts I listen to. They want to be modern women but they want a traditional man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:20 PM
3

That doesn't really make sense. I mean women are pretty much guaranteed a love/sex life, guaranteed a family, feeling loved and wanted, being valued just for existing. These are just basic human needs that a lot of guys will never know simply because they "aren't good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:38 PM
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It kind of makes sense. Guys can't be "more depressed" or "feel more anxious" if they aren't even alive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:33 PM
1

Nope. That's why I don't even pay on the first couple of dates if we do anything that costs money. I don't want her to think that I think that she owes me anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:02 PM
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Lol. It's most definitely not "in our heads". I don't understand how you people think a cold approach is going to go well with numbers like this: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 I'm not saying it's "impossible" but you have to consider the fact that women find the vast majority of guys unattractive. Therefore the most likely outcome is going to be a rejection. The best a guy can realistically hope for is that the woman is cool and chill about it. And there's cases…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:33 AM
6

Sure. Just turn yourself into a robot and flip the switch to all of your desires to "off". Perfectly realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:44 AM
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Can't respond to your other comment for some reason so I just went to your most recent one. Then why are they all over social media complaining that "all men cheat"? None of you seem to understand that simple point, lol. If the woman thinks they're cheating, then she must also think that they're in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:42 AM
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Kind of agree. But I'd say it's more about how it's generally framed as the guy doing something "wrong" if he makes his interest known but the woman isn't interested back. You've probably heard women complain about "creepy weirdos" a million times. That aligns perfectly with the data from dating apps (OKC - 80/20, Tinder - 95/5). Sometimes the guy is actually doing something weird but a lot of times he's merely showing interest. For example, a guy could smile and say "hello beautiful" to a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:56 AM
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The 80/20 thing kinda puts the brakes on everything if you're an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:42 AM
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Oh. You too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:24 AM
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I think they would just have more lust for a hotter woman but those looks fade. I think love comes from some lust of course but has to be completed by chemistry. So I don't think they would love her more. The most attractive 10/10 women probably have the worst personalities because everyone kisses their ass and they can do no wrong. They probably have main character syndrome on steroids and an insane body count. Basically recreational use only, lol. I don't know how to send pictures through here…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:19 AM
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Yeah because I was talking about the women that complain about Chad cheating, lol. Then she chimed in. If that's not what she was talking about then why did she reply? Because she was looking for someone to troll. What other reason would there be? They never elaborate on their points and just start to insinuate that I'm "dumb". I can smell a troll from a mile away on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:04 AM
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Can't respond to the other comment because I blocked the troll, lol. But she said the women know they are not exclusive with Chad but they still complain that he cheats. How can he cheat if they are not exclusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:40 PM
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I'm not sure where you've been for the past 10 years, but you can look up data from pretty much any dating app and see that men are way more realistic and forgiving with looks than women are. Also, just a personal example, there was this one girl I kind of knew in college and most guys would probably give her a solid 5/10. But there was just something about her that drew me to her. Can't even exactly say what. She never seemed interested in me but I would have been all over it had she shown inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:32 PM
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And now you're just trolling. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:50 PM
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Yeah, that's the point. The odds are shit both online and off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:49 PM
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So you're saying all of the misandry on social media is directed at average men? Lol. Come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:48 PM
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Too bad ad hominem arguments don't fix your logic, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:47 PM
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Boom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:31 PM
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Maybe go back and read the comments again. As many times as you need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:30 PM
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Partying is fun. I've been to big events like EDM festivals and stuff. Those can be fun just because they get crazy. I guess because it's just so many people and the huge stages. But we're talking about meeting women. Bars are usually just people standing around sipping their beers (nobody ever goes up to anyone outside of their group) and clubs are usually just obnoxious sausage fests. Pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:30 PM
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I would say you're playing on easy mode if you actually get your rocks off in those types of environments. It was boring to me even when I was young so I don't know about that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:10 PM
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You probably already know about the dating app statistics. Consider all the guys you rejected before you met your boyfriend. I see attractive women on a daily basis and I never see guys approaching them because we all know what the result is most likely going to be. Plus this: https://features.inside.com/why-arent-men-in-their-20s-having-sex/ I mean once again just look at reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 09:00 PM
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Then why do they say "all men cheat" if they're not in a relationship? That doesn't make sense. Just like in my other comment to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:54 PM
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I just view bars and clubs the same way I view dating apps. It's a pain in the ass chore, you're "not good enough" the vast majority of the time, nobody would be playing that stupid game if there were better alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:52 PM
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The fact that you think Chad is completely honest with his rotation is hilarious. If those women knew they were not in a relationship they would not be saying "all men cheat" and "men are trash". That wouldn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:47 PM
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Tell that to the women that think they're in a relationship with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:41 PM
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Lol. Sure, one example out of literally billions blows my argument out of the water. I yield to your superior intellect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:39 PM
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It's only a "chase" if she likes you. Otherwise it's borderline harassment lol. No thanks. But sure, if it were actually a viable way to meet women , I think way more guys would do it. Dating apps probably wouldn't even be a thing. But we all know the ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:35 PM
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You probably just said something they didn't like so they have to desperately try to make you sound as stupid as possible by putting words in your mouth and/or deliberately misinterpreting anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:11 PM
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Who would be passionate about getting rejected over and over and over and over again? That doesn't even make sense, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:08 PM
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Now would be a good time to elaborate and explain your reasoning. Otherwise you could've just summed it up as "nuh-uh" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:07 PM
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My argument is reality. You probably already know about the dating app studies and how harsh women can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:56 PM
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I don't think anyone "wants" to cold approach. The ROI is so ridiculous. Nobody wants to put up with a practically sisyphean task. It's just more of a last resort type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:51 PM
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Or that's what he's making them think, lol. Think of ALL of the women on social media complaining that "men are trash" and "all men cheat". (Obvious apex fallacy). Chad probably never agreed to exclusivity. He didn't have to because they already gave it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:35 PM
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You would only be shamed if she doesn't find you attractive (says you're "creepy"). If she does, then you'll be shamed because she has main character syndrome. If you never approach then you aren't a "real man". Either way, you can't win so might as well just do whatever you can/want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:34 PM
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Some of the "taken" women could just be in someone's rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:27 PM
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You're so oblivious lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:08 PM
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Oohh ok. She definitely looks good so I thought it was just her looks that got her fame on TikTok.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:15 PM
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As in not just through TikTok? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:07 PM
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5,895 comments. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:59 PM
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It's funny when you say "they don't go anywhere to meet women" as if some place exists where women are looking to meet average guys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 03:21 PM
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You didn't address anything. You just contradicted yourself and completely ignored my other points, lol. Typical reddit troll. Blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:01 AM
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If you have evidence that says otherwise, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:47 PM
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He just sounds like a "Chad". Women have a skewed perception of average so his face was probably slightly above average at the very least. it also sounds like he was taller than average. And "perfect glowing skin" lol. All of that is purely physical. If any one of those wasn't "good enough" you probably wouldn't even have noticed he was talking. I mean, come on. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:30 PM
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And I'm saying, what makes her care about those other things if she doesn't like how he looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:08 PM
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If pointing out your contradictions makes me a troll, then I'm guilty as charged lol. You were talking about relationships on both accounts. You said it doesn't make sense for a woman to match with someone and talk to them in order to find out if they're compatible. Which directly contradicts what you were saying before that. How there's more to a relationship than looks. Hence the confusion. According to this: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 Men swipe left and ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:06 PM
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And how would that be the case if personality is supposedly "so" important? If they don't like a guy's face, they will clearly not care about the personality. Otherwise they would still want to talk to him. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:41 PM
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??? Where did I say that "only" physical attraction matters? You say there is "more" to a relationship than physical attraction but then, in the very next breath, say it doesn't make sense for women to match with guys they aren't physically attracted to. Ssoooo which is it? As for the percentage thing, you just don't understand how percentages work. Even if a dating app is 50/50 men/women, women will reject the vast majority. The percentages are a constant regardless of quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:39 PM
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You people really like to pretend that nobody can communicate and arrange face to face meetings on dating apps. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:31 PM
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Are you replying to the right comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:29 PM
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I'm merely bringing up points that don't make sense. That does not mean that I'm "upset" lol. No you can't get to know people through photos and a description. That's why LITERALLY EVERY DATING APP EVER allows the people to speak to each other via text messages but it seems like you don't want to acknowledge that. So if we can't just speak facts, I don't see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:20 PM
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Sometimes? I see it a LOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:27 PM
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https://goat.com.au/relationships/this-graph-showing-how-couples-meet-is-a-reflection-of-how-wild-the-modern-dating-world-is/ I've heard the online vs IRL thing before but why/how would women's standards be so drastically different IRL? Everyone knows what the most likely result of a cold approach will be. (Not that different from tinder or any dating app for that matter). Which is probably why I never even see it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:27 PM
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Except one of the most common phrases I see in the bios is "no hookups".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:21 PM
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Meanwhile on Tinder: https://thebolditalic.com/the-two-worlds-of-tinder-f1c34e800db4 Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:08 PM
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So basically AF/BB. But you can look at tinder data and see how women reject about 95% of guys. Also, one of the most common phrases I see on there is "no hookups" which sounds like they're looking for a LTR. If that were the case then personality traits would matter, but they obviously reject the vast majority of guys before they even talk to them. So how do you explain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 09:04 PM
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Is this your other account?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:28 PM
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So you're saying women are in relationships with men they are not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 08:25 PM
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I see "6ft or taller" WAY more than I see "taller than me". In fact, not sure I've ever seen that on a profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:59 PM
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Kinda hard to care when women have a reputation for rejecting guys for being "too nice" and then choose the abusive one "cuz he's hot" and then cry victim. Of course, I'm not saying that's "always" the case but it's pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 02:05 PM
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