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I have gone on feminist subs and haven't seen that. I've also gone on here and seen people say that feminism was a hate movement while doing women's suffrage, and pretty much every single comment section here has someone saying something like, "Oh, you're a woman? That explains the stupidity" to someone else commenting here disagreeing with them, or "It’s almost like women’s entire social power is based around deception and lying or something idk", or similar. Also, could you please link me the …
/r/MensRights25/03/26 10:17 PM
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Yeah, they say it's about "men's rights" and that anyone against them is automatically misandrist, and then you look inside and it's actually all about complaining about things someone said online, or "It’s almost like women’s entire social power is based around deception and lying or something idk", instead of actual day-to-day issues that face men irl and have straightforward paths to being remedied (like, for instance, the subpar safety standards in many male-dominant industries in the USA li…
/r/MensRights25/03/26 09:59 PM
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And yet somehow you instantly knew the person who "showed up here" (would appreciate an actual link to the comment btw, so we can develop our own opinions instead of having to take you at your word), was a "feminist", just from what they are saying. When you get to the point of having to completely deny that certain political coalitions are more likely to use certain ways of speaking, you've kinda lost the plot.
/r/MensRights25/03/26 09:51 PM
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Yes, "imagine". It might get the exact same reaction this did- stirring up massive controversy that reaches across social media platforms, lasting over a month (judging from your post), generating outrage on Reddit, and getting many articles about it on tabloids more or less repeating the criticisms on Reddit and X. I'm sorry, I just don't buy the narrative you're trying to push with this. What is there to imagine that doesn't exist here?
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 11:23 AM
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That's an xkcd comic. Randall Munroe is, to the best of my knowledge, not a girl.
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 11:15 AM
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...because incel men are more likely to be on 4chan than Reddit, and incel women are more likely to be on certain subreddits than 4Chan. And it just so happens... gasp! That your current platform is Reddit. "foid" is a term originating from 4chan, and "moid" is a response to it from political reactionaries like 4B and such, usually used with a degree of sarcasm (though the sarcasm does seem to come from some real resentment).
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 11:14 AM
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The second study your second point is referencing (though the point it gets there is deep within the article- why share that article containing the study and not the study itself? That's a rhetorical question, I know exactly why) does not show what the article, or you, claim it shows. It also restricts the results towards specifically internet-using teens. > Almost all perpetrators (98%) who reported age at first perpetration to be 15 years or younger were male, with similar but attenuated resul…
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 11:00 AM
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Okay, so valuing the desire in someone else to improve in what he can do for society, and valuing how much money someone is actually currently making and contributing to the household, are just... two different things. One is a personality trait and a drive, the other is a current material circumstance. It's not a contradiction, it's you seeing a relation and thinking a relation means two things are synonymous. I'd genuinely- not facetiously, and not saying this to discredit or insult you- recom…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 10:54 AM

I'm gonna be real with you, I think this conversation is getting too chronically online for even me, I just sincerely am not getting a good 30% of what you're talking about. Maybe it's more of an issue of you just not giving enough context for it to be clear what the nature of the incidents or controversies you're referring to is, idk, whatever it is you're not making any sense, and I don't have nearly enough information to judge what actually happened or why, you're giving too high a proportion…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:05 PM
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> You will get banned from a number of subreddits if you dare to post there. See, they claim that constantly, but that's literally never happened to me, including on the subreddits they specifically claim that happens on, despite the fact that I've posted on therw many times, at least three of my comments being in agreement with a certain sentiment that's popular there. They've just got a perpetual victim complex, and probably got banned for something else but assumed the real reason is posting …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:40 PM

Oh yay, No True Scotsman. It doesn't matter what the standards were nearly a decade ago, what's relevant is what the vast majority of people who confess to redpill ideology actually espouse now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:34 PM

> Desirable.... for long term interactions. It was never about sexual desire. Bingo! Ugh, this reminds me of the whole "women all want to flirt with married men, I put on a ring and they all started wanting to hook up!" My dude. They feel safer around you because they think you don't just want sex from them. It's the same reason many women feel safer around guys who're gay or ace, it's not this drama TV-show-ass trope of "they want what they can't have!", because almost nobody, man or woman, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:29 PM
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This isn't a flat universal problem, nor is it unprovable, bad metaphor. The rate of logging deaths in the USA is roughly 99 per year per 100,000 workers (so if you planned to work in the industry for 40 years, you'd have a 4% chance of dying in that time), while the rate of logging deaths in, say, New Zealand, is roughly 16.58 per year per 100,000 workers (so if you planned to work in the industry for 40 years, you'd have a 0.66% chance of dying in that time). The dangers are very clearly reduc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:15 PM
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Yeah, logging in particular doesn't even have above-average pay, and even as an industry has a thin profit margin (which is a factor in why many companies look to cut costs on safety)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:12 PM
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Kinda both, actually. It's one of the most dangerous industries anywhere you go, but America seems to have an attitude of "I hate Mondays", where many issues like this are simply regarded as an unavoidable fact of life and if you complain about it you're the real problem, so safety standards that reduce that risk elsewhere simply aren't implemented in the USA. The rate of logging deaths in the USA is roughly 99 per year per 100,000 workers (so if you planned to work in the industry for 40 years,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:09 PM
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Bingo. They're just not rational. "Feminism is misandry because blah blah white feathers!" is regarded as being perfectly on-topic, but this? "THIS IS A SUB ABOUT DATING, TAKE THIS ELSEWHERE!" They decide what's relevant purely by what fits their narrative about women, not any of the actual criteria they pretend to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:58 PM
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> But ask people if they are buying IPhones to fit in - they would get offended, and start rationalizing their choices No shit, Sherlock, what benefit do they have to gain from being honest about that? Nobody is going to flat-out say "yes, everything I do is to fit in", because that makes them look desperate, and that kind of desperation does not fit in. If anything, that proves that is their goal. If you're just asking random people that in a confrontational manner, they're not going to feel sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:47 PM
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> They take it as a point of pride with how tough as nails they are. You tell them something is dangerous, they will tell you, those other guys who cut their thumbs off with power tools were stupid. I'm smarter than them. Yes, I know, that's exactly what I indicated, and that cultural attitude is exactly the problem and what's preventing these issues from getting fixed. I don't care if some asshole gets self-esteem from watching other men cut their fingers off, I still see the fingers getting cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:36 PM
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You do realize that's a statistical impossibility assuming most women are heterosexual, right? Like... who do you think they're having sex with? Space aliens? Rich chads who can afford their own flying saucers to come to Earth and anal probe our women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:00 PM
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> to why guys like trump and musk aren’t incels Consider this, for just a second: let's say you have a product. It's a pretty bad product, it's just offering to shit on someone's yard in exchange for 1 USD. If only your neighbours know about this product, then presumably, they will have no interest in this product, and you will get no sales. Because it's a bad product. If, on the other hand, tens of millions of people know, there's gonna be some wacko out there who goes "Oooh, a whole shit! Righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:59 AM
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> you're not special and you don't have some emotional superpowers because you're born a woman. She said that most men aren't taught this... firstly, the emphasis on "taught" explicitly implies this is an issue of nurture and not nature, and secondly, it seems incredibly bad-faith to read this as "conversely, women are just born with it" and not "conversely, women are taught it more frequently". She even said "we" aren't born that way... "we", and a woman saying it. How did it "come off" as lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:54 AM
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Oh hey, I think I saw you in the Strong Female Protagonist comment section a few years back! Neat coincidence. Great points then, and great points now, keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:28 AM
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That presents it as a zero-sum game, but it's not. Most people would gain some self-image, or at least compersion, from knowing they helped someone. Additionally, something like a food bank typically has a better supply chain than the average person, so they're able to use the money more efficiently than you would, so it's a net gain in efficiency for society to centralize resources by giving your money to the charity. (It's why people generally discourage buying and then donating food, since th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:20 AM
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So you don't value the well-being of others, and view that as everyone else's problem? I value others, I treat others with respect, whenever I see someone in trouble I help them. I am happy with this, because I am a functioning human being with empathy, whose core moral value is increasing average human quality of life, and view this as directly fulfilling my goals. I feel I have gained from this, as it has achieved my values. If I didn't see something as having positive cost/benefit, I wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:11 AM
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Unironic "IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE YOU LIKE THINKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE!", huh? If you are disgusted by something, you should seek for it not to happen, not just tell people to stop talking about it and hope it goes away, ffs. This is exactly why feminists are saying there's a rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:55 AM
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"Women were always biologically inclined to prefer a smaller percentage of top-tier men" Translation: "I saw some data from OKCupid once and I have decided that has always existed and is genetically inherent."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:51 AM
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Right?! Went on there a while back and looked at top post of the day, week, month, year, and all time; literally every one was just complaining about a specific Internet thing, like r/ AgainstMensRights staying up while r/ AgainstWomensRights was banned. (Note that the former is against the subreddit named "MensRights", while the latter is against the concept of women having civil rights- was a very small and inactive subreddit, so the reason it got banned probably isn't even about hate and more…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:45 AM
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Ikr? You really can't make up the guys on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:31 AM
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Yes, unlike the form of complaining many men choose on this subreddit, which is definitely not most of the popular posts on this sub, and certainly very logical and consistent. They're just telling it like it is, while everyone that disagrees is bitching about nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:30 AM
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Men bitching about bitching (or, on rare occasions, dating) is all the popular posts on this subreddit lately. Top post of today: complaining about "Gen Z women's icks" Top post this week: complaining about the phrase "mankeeping" (which, btw, I've never even heard of that before, nearly every dude in these spaces keeps finding new shit I've never even heard of) Top post this month: "Generally speaking, men never get to reveal "relationship skills" to women. They get filtered out long before tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 09:28 AM
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When you talk to nearly anyone online in these spheres their standards are in hell, lol. Online gender debates are 99% "I had a past girlfriend/boyfriend that was bad, or can't get a girlfriend/boyfriend that suits my tastes, and now I'm gonna blame half of humanity for it"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:54 PM
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"This person hasn't specifically said "yes, women can rape men" verbatim" does not equal "this person specifically believes women can't rape men". I can't find anything in your comment history that says the Irish potato famine is a famine. Does that mean you consider it not to be a famine? For that matter, you haven't even said the Holocaust was real! gasp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:48 PM
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"Sure, they were fine then, but the modern ones are bad!" has been getting said about feminists since women's suffrage, so, I'm gonna be completely real with you, I kinda just tune these posts out at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:40 PM
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> is based on observable and empirical history and reality Which isn't what I questioned, notably. What I mentioned about your comment was "in their feels". The factuality of a statement or lack thereof is not synonymous with how strong the feelings expressed in it are. And neither is whatever other dirt you can dig up from their comment history, lol. "about it" pretty clearly implies about the comment you made, in this context. I didn't say he knew anything about what he was talking about, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:26 PM
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I can't say I agree with everything you're saying, but I can say this comment genuinely gave me a giggle, lmao Also, can emphasize with, if not the whole thing, at least viewing people as pets. For me that actually started when I was 10. It was a necessary viewpoint change to prevent myself from just being a total misanthrope, I despised pretty much everyone around me because they seemed to actively avoid their behaviours having any consistency with their words, or hell, even their words having …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:14 PM
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I recommend AO3 if you want to see more of it, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:33 PM
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There were multiple facts in there, "greater dangers in dating, more discrimination in the workplace" included. There are many studies to prove it. Is the current strategy just... flat-out claiming people didn't say half of what I can clearly say they said? Or is it claiming objectively measurable statistics are "opinions"? And you specifically claimed they "just" stated opinions, which clearly implies they stated nothing else, so don't claim you were just talking about one specific part. Oh, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:36 PM
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haven't even existed as long Okay, so, hear me out: I think there's just a chance, maybe, somewhere, that they're talking about the present amount of discrimination taken as an average, not the total accrued discrimination done to any individual in the demographic ever, taken as an absolute number and not a proportion. Also, anyone that steps outside pre-assigned gender roles has existed as long as gender roles, so if we're speaking more of the roots of the oppression than the total oppression, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:33 PM
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> quite in their feels about it Just glanced at the top reply, and... Have you really looked at it and compared the feel of it to the comment you're replying to right now? God, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:55 PM
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Must be a regional thing, I live in Canada, also socialize with women, mostly lesbians, and never really heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:39 PM
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Why "ironically"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:36 PM
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So, are you gonna post it or not? I'd prefer actual evidence to an out-of-context "they'd call you an incel!" Emphasis on "I recommend not giving any extra comments or details, or more text in the body, as that could reveal too much and interfere with the experiment.", as an "AS A FEMINIST, HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY THIS ATROCITY OF NOT DOING THIS?!" would, to say the least, interfere. If you post anything other than the title I recommended there, I am going to assume you're more concerned with starti…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 11:34 AM
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For a chance to demonstrate what you're talking about, I'd ask a question like this on, for instance, r/AskFeminists, and see what kind of replies you get: "Given how the patriarchy hurts men too, in what ways can intersectionality be applied to men's issues?" I would ask it myself, but I already have one such post running there and it might be suspicious if I made two in a row. I recommend not giving any extra comments or details, or more text in the body, as that could reveal too much and inte…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:12 AM
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"barely anyone says anything about it" I disagree. Nekoshey's comment has -12, and has been removed by a moderator, while the reply has +40. And there are many more replies saying things about it. And nekoshey's comment getting downvoted doesn't seem to be from this subreddit's attention towards it, either, given that comments like this and this are also getting downvoted, whereas they seem like the kind of thing that would get upvoted here.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:55 AM
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Tbf, the attitude is kind of encouraged, if there's a lot of demand and low supply, well... That problem won't really get away until more men learn they should have higher standards. If you recognize your own worth, you won't sell for no cost. (I hate transactionality but it's really difficult to think of other metaphors lmao)
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:48 AM
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In my experience, a lot of that type of feminism comes from the UK- the historical origin of that seems to be the right-wing Conservative party gunning for the women's vote, and getting it by a landslide, post-WW2, while Labour leaned more into the image of the working man with the loyal housewife. Whenever I find a political thing along that flavour that bewilders me, I can usually trace it back to UK politics.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:43 AM
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I really feel like there are some bigger injustices towards men than online criticism. That's what annoys you most? Also, it's more productive to be annoyed at the people that make men feel they have to do that, not the men that are victims of that mentality.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:27 AM
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"empathetic" and "altruistic" aren't the same thing, you don't get better mirror neurons through self-sacrifice- and I don't think male self-sacrifice should be encouraged. Recognized, certainly, but not encouraged, especially not by an organization focused on men's rights, that'll just lead to more John Henry-ism, which is driving the higher rate of male suicide, poorer health resulting from health-risking jobs like logging/hunting (a huge problem here in Canada), etc. I think men need to value…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:24 AM
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Any statistical proof other than "you're sadly mistaken if you don't take my word on everything"?
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:15 AM
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And as we all know, anecdotal evidence is the best evidence.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:11 AM
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"Natural consequences" that her child also has to suffer, risking malnutrition at a young age, which could affect the child for the rest of their life- which makes learning more difficult, people can't think when they're starving. And people can't learn if they're dead, you just care more about some perceived sense of retribution than human well-being. What "respect and consideration" is her child going to learn? In addition, there's more child abuse in poor families. There's also more abuse in …
/r/MensRights17/01/26 05:10 AM
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I agree with the basic sentiment, that there need to be more spaces for men to feel safe talking with other men- in fact, I came to this post to agree seeing the title, it seemed quite sensible. I also agree that the "feminism is a safe space for both sexes" thing is bullshit- in any politically charged space, you always feel like you're walking on ice and can't really speak from the heart, and feminists shouldn't see themselves as an exception. I try to discuss that stuff mainly with my friends…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:48 AM
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I thought y'all knew about the "patriarchy hurts men too" thing already and hated it. I'd be hard-pressed to find a feminist in the wild that doesn't acknowledge this problem when asked. Hell, lemme go to r/AskFeminists and ask if they believe the patriarchy also hurts men by forcing them into dangerous professions. Actually, hell, the most recent post there even mentions that issue specifically, in the first paragraph of the text. "there are genuine issues that men face due to the patriarchy an…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:47 AM
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"ex: a man paying for her meal as sexist" This sub also hates that though.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:43 AM
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"The upper-class girl I dated my in college paid for every single date for the first two months of our relationship simply because she understood it was stupid for a young girl with a trust fund to expect a 19 year old with a part-time job to pay for everything just because he was a guy and she was a girl." Sooo you're fine with women dating broke guys but not guys dating broke women? Lol. (Kidding, I know there's probably more to it you just didn't cover, and your post's great otherwise, that j…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:42 AM
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> Huh? I didn’t say she didn’t get me anything in return. Whether or not she reciprocates you are still spending money. Then why are you bothering to say this on the post about how it's more expensive to be a man? It's a reasonable assumption that's the point you were making given the situation, as people generally give benefit of the doubt- specifically, they assume you're actually talking about something relevant to the conversation. If you're talking about something irrelevant, clarify. > Cra…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 04:04 AM
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I think this is heavily region or situation-dependent, I'm in Canada and have a lot of transmasc friends, and if anything they tend to be a lot more motivated about socially and physically transitioning than the transfems I know. Though, granted, most transfems I know lean younger than the transmascs, and I tend to find people in their 30s-40s-50s are the most motivated and stubborn around here. Specifically addressing "they date men who sees them as women"- my Dad (who is transmasc) actually me…
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:47 AM
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> Three whole days Okay, I see the sarcasm, and I should mention it's actually more concerted effort than I've given to learning about feminism. Normally I just pick both up through osmosis learning about them in other political spaces- usually I devote my effort more to trans issues (since I am trans and know more about this than average, so I can spot a lot of information), autistic and other mental health issues (same reason), education (probably the most fundamental issue facing society in m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 02:21 AM
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"there's an abundance of threads on this very sub if you're legitimately interested in learning about that. You're not" ... Bruh. Quit it with the ad hominem, I've even been empathizing with some of the guys over at r/MensRights for the last few days. I just despise tit-for-tat politics, as I believe modern polarization (such as certain feminists using the fact that misogynists exist to be against all men) is one of the most major things having people at each other's throats instead of genuinely…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 01:59 AM
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> There are no protests, no movements, no social shaming I mean... I see few, if any, actual protests from male LWMA either. And there are many prominent female activists campaigning for men's issues, like Karen DeCrow, or Bettina Arndt. > There's nothing to 'prove'. Society is hostile to men both legally and socially Wasn't your claim, quit trying to move goalposts. Do you really think I have that short of a memory? Your claim that I asked you to prove, which you conveniently left out and conti…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 01:56 AM
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You were talking specifically about people who can pass legislations? That's even worse than I thought, hold on- so, because there are misandrist politicians, some of whom are women, you're not against policies being passed that harm actual civilian women? And this is a motte-and-bailey, the lowest part of your original bar was "make no attempt to correct their sisters". And your original claim was that you have no obligation to correct misogyny, but now you seem to be claiming it doesn't exist.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 08:18 PM
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We don't seek to... take revenge for past deeds, real or imagined You're... literally doing the "You aren't so we won't!" revenge thing in this thread. Women hear and perpetuate misandry extremely casually and make no attempt to correct their sisters. They enact anti-male legislation and make generalizations/projections on a comical scale. Men have no obligation to speak up anything. You literally just used a supposed past deed, as a reason to allow misogyny... You are openly saying your support…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 10:43 AM
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> Women hear and perpetuate misandry extremely casually and make no attempt to correct their sisters. They enact anti-male legislation and make generalizations/projections on a comical scale. Men have no obligation to speak up anything. How does the second thing follow through the first thing? Two things can both be bad. I think women also have an obligation to call out misandry. I do it whenever I see it. I have been in my own friend groups. There was a video the other day in a watch party I wa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 10:33 AM
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Tbh, the way people went about "female empowerment", especially the "girlboss" bit, has always seemed kinda flawed from the start to me. Like in the early days, it was meant to be about breaking traditional gender roles and stuff, but it was always put like, "We can do everything men can do!" even for women it's only even provisional acceptance, for women who can fulfill a traditionally masculine role in society- and I've been noticing this for years now, there was little to nothing done to crea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/10/25 10:17 AM
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Out of curiosity, who wrote the book's summary on that page? The- Long-time political activist Adam Leonas examines the arguments about the oppression of women, and shows that all the supposed disadvantages are essentially trade-offs against much worse alternatives. He takes a fascinating look into the biology of the sexes, to find where female superiority and male weakness is located: sex. He argues that the point in history when the prehistoric gender balance was overturned was during “the wor…
/r/MensRights28/10/25 07:12 AM
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The crowd that insists trans women all secretly have male privilege is just... bizarre. Never understood how exactly they think that works.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 05:46 AM
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Thanks, I really appreciate it! I feel like there could be a bit more going on here than just "the difference between the lifespan of men and women is almost purely social", like maybe that there's a difference in the default amount that can be resolved with more resources. However, I am seeing an interesting pattern in how there're many gender differences that converge (but never seem to pass the other) in situations where both sexes get extremely high resources, like how the gendered strength …
/r/MensRights28/10/25 05:38 AM
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I've never heard it before in my life, seems niche.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:54 AM
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The situation with TikTok's "Couch Guy" was bizarre. Somehow didn't realize that was a gendered issue until now, but yeah, I can't see that happening to a woman (harassing women is more the job of snark subreddits than trends, lol, and I've never seen a snark subreddit started over a woman just sitting weird). Here's him talking about it: I’m the TikTok Couch Guy. Here’s What It Was Like Being Investigated on the Internet. This is the video I saw discussion of him in originally, though he's not …
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:42 AM
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I tried looking that up but seem to be having a google-fu skill issue, any chance you could give me a (free) source?
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:39 AM
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I mean, I do find men tend to be much more likely to engage in sexual harassment (at least online, or, I hear, in spaces with more anonymity like bars), but it is a problem if the same behaviour isn't equally called out when women actually do it. Behaviour belongs to an individual, not to their whole sex, and women aren't immune to being creeps.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:34 AM
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So I'm not the only one that's noticed the "loser" thing! Yeah, insults directed towards women (like "bitch") seem very visibly gendered, but there're a lot of more stealth insults against men. And just the other day I saw a YouTube video where someone was trying to use the lack of gendered insults towards men to claim the culture has no widespread misandry :/ Both men and women have forms of degradation that don't apply to the other, because society expects different things and criticizes diffe…
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:25 AM
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Good lord, those're all horrible, but in particular that second one is bizarre, I've seen that statistic used both by and against various groups (misandrists using it to say "men bad they all subconsciously hate women", or Manosphere dudes using it to go "if women earn more they're being greedy and hate their boyfriends/husbands!"), this's the first time I've seen someone use it to say men should just earn more to solve that problem. It's a real Rorschach test of a number, isn't it?
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:20 AM
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I mean, he agreed it's fucked up, and "have a go at" seems to be... idk how to put it, heavily exaggerating? Is there a meaning of "have a go at" I don't know about? In the past I've always seen it used similarly to "attack", and I'm not seeing that in his post.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:13 AM
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There's nothing wrong with it being said to men. But it should be applied equally- the problem is that it isn't happening both ways.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:08 AM
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Yeahhh, there's a lot of language directed towards men that people don't really seem to acknowledge as gendered, but very specifically is. Another one is "loser"- when's the last time you heard someone call a woman a loser?
/r/MensRights28/10/25 04:07 AM
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Read: "We used to call people cringe SJWs for caring about wording, but now that we have some political capital WE get to control the language!" I should specify I don't like the "women and children" thing either, but like, let's be real for a sec.
/r/MensRights28/10/25 02:48 AM
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He wasn't going in-depth on full experiences he'd had. He was making vague generalizations, which you make an assumption were based on such experiences in order to concern troll.
/r/MensRights24/10/25 07:03 AM
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Nah, whenever I manage to get into a conversation with an MRA that isn't him just slinging vague insults the whole time and calling me "illogical" without him being able to correctly point out even a single actual fallacy, and manage to get into the actual reasons behind our values and why we hold them, it's usually that he... had a bad ex once, or had a female manager he describes as "bossy" (relevant meta-analysis: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26689089/ )
/r/MensRights24/10/25 07:00 AM
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The algorithm recommends us what it knows we'll argue with, for engagement. Reply to one, and you'll get more. If you don't want to see it, I'd just try not to just not engage with it too much, it isn't nearly as common as you think it is.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/09/25 01:11 AM
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