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| 1 | Why are incels condemned by proponents of social justice when they meet many criterion for systemic discrimination? | KillerLlamar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 06:01 AM |
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| 0 | And the male equivalent of big boobs is?What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 01:41 AM |
| 3 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?You seem sad and angry. I hope you find you some satisfaction from whatever you're doing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 01:21 AM |
| 4 | And the male equivalent of big boobs is?I wouldn't say that's true. Waste to hip ratio is another large attribute men find attractive in women, as is facial symmetry. If you really wanted a single attribute, I'd say tall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 01:18 AM |
| 10 | And the male equivalent of big boobs is?This has been answered by science many times, here is one such article. Actually explores the ideal arm to torso to leg ratio as an indicator of attractiveness as well. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsos.171790 > From the perspective of evolutionary biology, attractiveness judgements reflect the biological fitness of a prospective mate (i.e. their ability to survive and reproduce in their environment), because a high-fitness mate is likely to be better able to provide resou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?A random person on the internet can't hurt my feelings, I don't even know you. I said that feminism generally is unempathetic towards men which is something a lot of people, male and female would agree with. In response to this you said I hated women and felt emasculated by feminists. This is a massive assumption, an insult, and you talked over me without listening or trying to critically understand the point that was being made even though I didn't come at you personally at all. It is the exact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?You are absolutely doing those things. I am telling you how you are coming off, and your immediate reply is to insult me, talk over me, and attempt to invalidate what I say. I haven't insulted you at all, but if it makes you feel better to continue to attack me then I don't mind if you need to get it out of your system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 12:50 AM |
| 3 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?You realize you have done this as well, right? Lashing out and insulting people, saying that women emasculate them, etc is indicative of feeling threatened by those opinions and choosing to engage in name-calling over dialogue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/19 12:18 AM |
| 3 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Is that true? One of the biggest red pill tenents is to stop being fat and lose weight. Not only is it critical, it advocates for active improvement in that area and writes off any man who is overweight and trying to get laid as being an ugly loser. I think you are experiencing selectivity bias. Very few redpillers don't already know being obese as a man limits your options sexually so they don't bring it up on a forum like this. Either way, shaming obesity is always a good thing in my book. Eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:56 PM |
| -1 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?I google chonky and see pictures of cats. Are you trolling? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:52 PM |
| 15 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?This has to be satire, right? You're doing exactly what I just described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:51 PM |
| 2 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Why are the beauty standards unrealistic? Are you saying that it is impossible for women to be beautiful or be in good shape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:46 PM |
| -2 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Are you saying there are no humans on earth with flat stomachs and big asses? A quick visit to your local gym would likely prove otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Your body is literally the most important part of your existence. I think it makes sense to be very critical of bad behavior, especially when we know that bad behavior leads to generational cycles of death. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:43 PM |
| 12 | Why do men always make assumptions about women and speak for women?What on earth are you talking about? Feminism as a discipline revolves around women reading intent into men's actions. Concepts like toxic masculinity, sexual objectification, media representation, and the wage gap are almost always non-scientific post hoc explanations of the world with zero male empathy. Women do exactly what you are describing, just as often if not more often than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 10:39 PM |
| 8 | Why is it that for most of human history women were held to higher beauty standards than men?Once again, purple pill does not understand causation versus correlation. Men didn't conspire together to hold women to a beauty standard, evolution did that. Men are biologically programmed to pursue attractive women for various reasons but mainly related to child-bearing (The question, 'What makes someone attractive?' has been answered by science many times). The women who were most attractive had their choice of the most optimal male partners and were able to bear children with their traits, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?After a short but embarrassing google search: https://www.beautycrew.com.au/mila-kunis-no-makeup-photos Yeah, I think she looks fine. You could pull some shitty photos from the internet probably, but shitty photos are kind of everyone's bane of existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Men don't like feminine women, they like feminine LOOKING women with "masculine" energySounds like you've got some personal issues to sort through. They never mentioned feminity as being bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 06:11 PM |
| 3 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?It looks like the same person to me. Just without make up and movie lighting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 06:07 PM |
| 7 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Men are obsessed with women because they want to have sex, and usually aren't homosexuals. If women were all ugly the level of obsession would be exactly the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?She looks fine to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:56 PM |
| 8 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Yes. The brain cannot discern between a photoshopped woman and a real woman unless it deviates significantly from reality, which is why most photoshops are made to appear as pushing the boundaries on what is physically possible without appearing physically impossible. These photoshops accentuate the traits men are attracted to while still appearing realistic. It's the same reason women are attracted to the bodies of men who are on steroids (like Chris Hemsworth) without having any clue his body … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:53 PM |
| 10 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?Obviously? Research shows that all men from all cultures are attracted to symmetry and particular symmetry applied to certain areas of the female body (I could link the studies if you'd like). Photoshopped bodies simply play into what men are biologically very attracted to, it isn't as though a man from the 1500's would be shown a homely woman and a photoshopped super model and have no preference either way. It's as ridiculous as saying women prefer tall men because tall men are always the main … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:44 PM |
| 4 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?If you aren't talking about makeup then what are you talking about? Are you saying when Mila Kunis goes to an award show and does a photo op she doesn't look like herself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:37 PM |
| 5 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?This is fair, but the idea that the beauty standard is caused by media and not nature is absurd. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:31 PM |
| 15 | Why do women constantly complain about “unrealistic” beauty standards?No they do not. Almost all men in movies wear makeup and most of the very fit men take copious amounts of steroids and maintain insane diets for roles the quit immediately after a shoot ends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/19 05:27 PM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP is not for relationships. Stop trying to force fit it.https://ifstudies.org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness Men who have a lower number sexual partners report higher levels of happiness in their relationship, by very significant margins. The idea that men require hook-ups to make a marriage successful is blatantly false and in fact the opposite would be a more valid argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?Have a good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?Have a good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?No it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:41 PM |
| 2 | Did the sexual revolution harm society?If I give a gun to a toddler and he shoots himself in the face, it is illogical to say "Well it's good for self-defense he just wasn't ready for it yet." There is no argument that some people, in some situations can handle guns- it's that opening of the ability for anyone to do so creates a very different cultural dynamic that (some argue) is a net negative for society. Some of the primary targets of the sexual revolution were young men and women in their teens and early 20's, and this has persi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?No, I never said anything about a lack of mutual consent. You made that up to create a strawman. I see now debating with a liar is pointless, have a good day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?Modern romance being different from how ancient couples interacted does not mean all sex was rape when love didn't matter. Sex is a biological function. Two animals having sex for procreation without love does not automatically mean it's rape, and the same applies for human beings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Short guys should wear lifts.When did I say anything about the average, and how does that change my point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?I wasn't just talking about rape. Sex in general was not exactly the romantic experience you were making it out to be pre-pornography, even amongst married couples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?Actually, there's an entire chapter in the Kama Sutra on slapping, in addition to multiple different types of hitting. Erotic rope bondage and sexual humiliation displays pre-date the 1800's. So we're left with 'pounding as hard and as fast as possible,' which you might be shocked to find was probably the most common form of sex pre-pornography and certainly pre-modern romance. I'm not sure the Mongolian raiders were making sweet tender love after a to the death battle... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 05:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: how can you tell if a guy is a "porn addict"?Kink was a thing way before porn. Like thousands of years before. Kama Sutra has an entire chapter called "Types of Scratching with the Nails." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 05:05 AM |
| 4 | Short guys should wear lifts.An extra two inches to a women who's naturally two inches shorter than you is double the height difference. It's absolutely noticeable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/19 04:57 AM |
| 1 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?I'd say white men being aware of them is what started the trend. There's also plenty of white women with similar features, but I'm not into white women so I don't know any off the top of my head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/19 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?Brittany Rener is famous for the size of her butt. http://www.thenewblackorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/BRITTANY-REN.jpg Trisha Paytas is disgusting. Someone like Irene the Dream or Genesis Lopez are usually the ideal 'thick body type' I see on the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 11:14 PM |
| 2 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakWith respect to marital outcomes, as wives increasingly have more education or higher income than their husbands, the association between wives’ educational or income advantage and divorce has declined and is no longer statistically significant. And this summary of past research, which I feel is great, doesn't contradict, but gives a more rounded view of the problem. Divorce has generally been found to be more likely when men’s earnings are lower (Hoffman and Duncan 1995; South and Lloyd 1995) o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 11:03 PM |
| 2 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?Those women have millions of Instagram followers apiece... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakAgain, I can't see the article, but the quote you posted doesn't match your statement. Educational advantage is not the same as income advantage. Could you please post a quote on the female breadwinners versus male breadwinners and their likelihood to split? Second of all, you can't post a paper with alternative findings and then declare mine is 'untrue' because you want it to be, that isn't how this works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 09:56 PM |
| 5 | Men have a hard time accepting that women's preferences evolve with age because they themselves are permanently 12 years old in their desire.There's a very large difference in being attracted to teenagers, and being attracted to the adult traits teenagers have. The men you are describing aren't attracted to the young women because they are children, but because they have the appearance of adults. The legal line of 'pedophile' based on consent is pretty arbitrary (17 in some places in the US, 16 in others, 15 in Germany, 13 in Japan) so what is considered disgusting and pedophilic attraction in some places is perfectly acceptable in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 09:35 PM |
| 0 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?Most of the asses you see on instagram were attained through exercise or surgery, whether you know it or not. It is not biologically possible to have a round, tight, smooth ass (which is what men like) purely through eating and existing unless you have top .001% genetics. Here are some examples (NSFW): https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d1/70/3f/d1703f5f34e195a36b24078a04dbb73f.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c8/63/f2/c863f28c7cd317b9e685bd5301406b36.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Bt8zo5k.jpg Here's what mean do … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 09:23 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Female Selectivity is not Entitlement (and anyone who thinks otherwise is entitled themselves).I think it's correct to say that women have the right to have sex/marry with whoever they please. However, I only think it's fair to also admit that certain behaviors are more likely to result in non-desirable longterm outcomes for the individual and the larger group as a whole. For example, if a woman has many sexual partners this substantially increases the risk of divorce with the man she chooses to marry. Divorce has a significant impact on society as a whole due to higher likelihood of chil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Men have a hard time accepting that women's preferences evolve with age because they themselves are permanently 12 years old in their desire.Nice understanding of statistics! I point this out a lot too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?Nicki Minaj is a plus sized model now? She has definitely put on weight since her early days, but Minaj was in ridiculously good shape for some of her music videos. When people say 'thick' I think of women like this: Link Not like this: Link There's a really big difference with those two. The first one isn't remotely obese, in fact her BMI is probably lower than a significant amount of skinny-ft women who think they look like Twiggy. Men have always preferred large breasts, asses, and hips due t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Is the prevalence among men for liking "thick girls" related to the fact that about 40% of American women are now obese?There's plenty of women that can do this just fine (go to your local gym), so I wouldn't call it unrealistic at all, it's far more attainable than Twiggy. It has less to do with lucky fat storage and more to do with workouts that target very specific areas of the body. Because women will naturally have higher body fat than men on average, keeping that fat relatively in the midsection and doing high volume/weight squats and other glutes/hamstring/quad exercises will likely create the desired appe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:17 PM |
| 38 | Men have a hard time accepting that women's preferences evolve with age because they themselves are permanently 12 years old in their desire.While this might seem correct based on preferences, it is, in fact, wrong in practice. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704917690401 > Over the investigated age span, women reported a narrower age range than men and women tended to prefer slightly older men. We also show that men’s age range widens as they get older: While they continue to consider sex with young women, men also consider sex with women their own age or older. Contrary to earlier suggestions, men’s sexual activit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakI'm not sure you understand the study you posted or how it relates to mine. I can't read it because it's behind a paywall, but there is nothing in the abstract that mentions divorce, only hypergamy and specifically educational hypergamy. The article I posted deals with the impacts of women who choose not to marry above their financial bracket, not the frequency of that happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 04:54 PM |
| 3 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakEverything is relative to the outcomes people want. If a woman wants a solid, stable family life then statistically her best bet is to get a degree, not get pregnant, don't get laid that much, and choose a well-adjusted partner who makes more money than she does. For most in-shape women this is something that could be done with a little effort, as long as they apply themselves to that task in their 20's. There are obviously people who do a good job even with all the risks, but if you choose a mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/19 07:37 AM |
| 25 | Woman makes more money - she carries the bulk of the financials...would you have a problem with it? Both sides speakThere is no problem with their financial arrangement, but the woman out earning the man in a LTR is one of the top indicators of divorce. https://faculty.chicagobooth.edu/emir.kamenica/documents/identity.pdf > Using data from the National Survey of Families and Households, we find that the couples where the wife earns more than the husband are less happy, report greater strife in their marriage, and are ultimately more likely to get a divorce. > ...Since 12 percent of couples in the sample get d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Single mothers are a valuable option for risk averse men who crave relationship CERTAINTYI really hate posting scientific links to people who dissapear and don't read them, which is why I normally don't, but I would LOVE it if you were to pick the position that single moms are not a divorce risk and then we can argue it out with data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:22 AM |
| 2 | Single mothers are a valuable option for risk averse men who crave relationship CERTAINTYDo you want to go down this road, because we certainly can. You're going to feel real stupid so I'm giving you the opportunity to walk away gracefully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:21 AM |
| 1 | A lot of the anger from mgtow/omega types is because who "they are" is fundamentally unattractive to womenNo one makes fun of people for liking sports Then you weren't actually a part of the culture. Liking MMA in the early 90's was the equivalent of being a violent hoodlum. It had no respect politically or in common conversation. Unless you absolutely loved the no-holds-barred nature of early UFC and hated when they added rules to appeal to the boxing commissions and therefore normal people, you don't have much ground to stand on there. There's plenty to dislike about modern MMA. Stop assuming you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:20 AM |
| 1 | A lot of the anger from mgtow/omega types is because who "they are" is fundamentally unattractive to womenNo. It got WAY better. People started seeing MMA as a legitimate career so you got real athletes instead of pro wrestling-esque weirdos who were too violent and crazy to do anything else. There was a lot more variation in the old days, but who cares? The sport changed, just like everything changes over time. It would have happened regardless of if it went mainstream or not, because people figure out what works best over time. The mainstream nature of things just changed the rate this happened. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/19 08:06 AM |
| 3 | A lot of the anger from mgtow/omega types is because who "they are" is fundamentally unattractive to womenNerds are such losers, this is exactly why no one likes you. Every other group would be happy their area became mainstream. Me and my dad grew up watching Shooto and Pancrase, obscure Japanese MMA on VHS tapes when neither of us spoke the language. We were thrilled when the UFC came along, we were thrilled US PPV became a thing, we were thrilled basic dudebros commented about fights about the gym. The more people liked something the more it grows and the more stuff we get. I have so much MMA the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 09:01 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Telling men to "get ripped" is just as Blue-Pilled as telling them to be nice guysThe goal of red pill is to increase your likelihood of success, not guarantee it. The perspective is that 'being nice' is bad advice even if the person using it gets laid, whereas getting ripped is good advice even if the person doesn't get laid. This is a counterfactual problem, meaning 'what would have happened if I made another choice.' It will be difficult to convince TRP that a nice guy who gets laid wouldn't have got laid if that same person was jacked instead of nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Single mothers are a valuable option for risk averse men who crave relationship CERTAINTYNo. Divorce is an outcome of incompatibility, it doesn't fall out of the sky. Single mothers have higher likelihoods of all the issues that lead to divorce- mental health problems, poor self-image, commitment issues, higher likelihood of substance abuse, etc. In fact single motherhood without divorce is an even better predictor of a failed relationship (in any capacity) than divorce alone, by a large margin. There is no data that suggests single mothers are a preferable option in any situation, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 08:12 PM |
| 2 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.And yet these sex toys are still available, and women still buy them even when there are other options are available. Why is that? Edit: After a brief, but embarrassing search it seems you are not just wrong but bafflingly wrong. Every single site that carries dildos has some non-realistic options in stock, and these are not even remotely close in popularity to the realistic versions- which is by far the most popular category. Do you have any actual evidence for the things you are saying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 08:04 PM |
| 11 | Single mothers are a valuable option for risk averse men who crave relationship CERTAINTYThis is completely untrue. Single mothers represent one of the highest chance of divorce and separation, they are the opposite of certainty. https://perspectivesoftroy.com/divorce-risk-factors/ > Having a child or getting pregnant before getting married does increase your risk of divorce. Approximately 40.6% of all births in America are from unmarried women, resulting in 1.5 million children born out of wedlock. In fact, research shows that women who have either been through a divorce or raised … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Are women really collectivist thinkers?How would anyone know whether they are or are not a collectivist? No one believes that they are acting as a collective- we are programmed to feel the decisions we make are unique to our situation. A higher order species would probably find a lot of amusement in this, the same way we would laugh at a colony of ants waxing theoretically if they are 'collectivist or individuals.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptHow do they measure desirability? You would know that if you read the study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptSomething is very skewed with that data. Else, the majority of 28-32 year old women would be marrying 50 year old men instead of their close age match, yes? No. The majority of 28-32 year old women do not have access to single, 50 year old, healthy, successful men generally because these men represent a minority, B.) They run in completely different social circles and C.) They are taken very quickly. I've worked at Microsoft, Oracle, and Facebook and I can promise you that the 40+ year olds in d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 05:43 PM |
| 0 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.And you think this is because women don't like disembodied penises and not because the penis is actually not the best shape for maximal stimulation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/19 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?That's great. Enjoy your day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you wish someone would have Red Pilled you when you were younger, or would you rather go in blind?I wish someone had given me data and helped me understand how certain choices I make could result in radically different outcomes. Doing X increases your shorterm sexual value but decreases longterm potential earnings value and increases likelihood of divorce, etc. It's easier to make decisions when you have all the data, and generally, I find all pills are grasping onto the pieces of data that confirm their biases instead of grappling with more difficult truths. For instance: Having a spouse si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?Science doesn't claim to reflect reality, it is reality within the confines of the experiment. The question is how much does that scope of he experiment reflect the real world, which you would only know by reading the paper. You're not a child so I'm not going to waste time explaining it you. You can either read it or not, but if you're not going to I have no desire to speak with you anymore. I feel like that's a pretty reasonable position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptNo, they were wrong and didn't grasp the research. The study measures a desirability score which was a weighted function of volume of messages and profile quality. I'll put it simply so you can understand: 50 year old men were messaged more frequently, by more desirable women than the 20 year olds, and had more success with the most desirable women when messaging first. An 'uggo or a fattie' messaging an attractive 50 year would have decreased his net desirability, because they in turn would onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Preliminary Results from my Analysis of the American Time Use Survey: Single Men are Slobs Who Don't Get Laid.Great post. I'll dig in also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Red/Blue/Black/Pink pills are all unhealthy, addictive drugs CMVThe entire point of this sub is to leave the echo chamber and expose yourself to ideas from others and to have them challenged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?If you ask a question and aren't willing to spend 5 minutes understanding the science behind my answer which I packaged for you with a bow, then I have zero reason to continue this conversation because it shows you're more interested in arguing than learning. Thanks for playing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:24 PM |
| 0 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptNo, you either did not read the study or had a completely incorrect interpretation. However, desirability is not only about how many people contact you but also about who those people are. If you are contacted by people who are themselves desirable, then you are presumptively more desirable yourself This study focused on desirability score, not raw number of messages. The desirability score was then based on volume, and secondly the quality of that volume from people who are also desirable. If o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?From this scientific paper: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to accepthttps://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf You can come to your own conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?What are your qualifications to say otherwise? I'm open to alternatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?I wouldn't characterize it as being bad, just different. If you act intelligently there's no reason why you can't have a win-win for everyone involved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 01:25 AM |
| 12 | Male aging -a red pill that's hard to acceptInterestingly enough that's actually untrue: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf Older women are less desirable, while older men are more so (18, 19). For women, this pattern holds over the full range of ages on the site: The average woman’s desirability drops from the time she is 18 until she is 60. For men, desirability peaks around 50 and then declines. TRP is correct in saying older men are more desirable (this is usually related to status, security, wealth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Rich men marrying young women: are the men using their money to take advantage of the woman for their youth? Or is the woman exploiting men’s tendency to irrationally overvalue beauty to live a wealthy lifestyle without having to put in the work/risk themselves?If you didn't have any data, then I could see how by relying on raw sexual attraction it makes sense. Men are in their sexual primes (as perceived by women) around 50, women in their 20's. I don't think two optimally attractive people acting on that attraction is fundamentally wrong on any level...however, it is an incredibly bad decision if your goal is sustainability. One of the largest predictors of divorce is the age delta between men and women. The larger the gap, the more likely the chance… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/19 01:01 AM |
| 2 | What makes a man a cuck to you?Was I talking to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 11:21 PM |
| 5 | What makes a man a cuck to you?I don't think the cursing is necessary, I haven't been rude to you. Regardless- you don't see any fundamental difference between watching pornography for sexual stimulation and looking at a painting in a gallery? Those seem like significantly different activities to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 11:16 PM |
| 2 | What makes a man a cuck to you?Interesting perspective. You feel that pornography is primarily consumed as art? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 10:48 PM |
| 0 | What do you want to be appreciated for?I could see how that comes across. I think there probably is some element of 'my way or the highway' but in the same way you might encounter that in a business. The designer gets the final say on the design, the marketer on the marketing, etc. We can question each other's decisions, but ultimately we're 'experts' in our separate domains and we respect that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 10:40 PM |
| 0 | What do you want to be appreciated for?She's extremely ambitious. One of her role models is Melinda Gates. Not because of the B&MG foundation, but because Melinda managed the home and family life of one of the world's most powerful people for 20+ years, which puts her in the same category as Bill for what she does. The analogy I use with people who question our dynamic is role-playing games. You can't beat the boss without an attacking character that leads the charge and does massive damage, but the attacker can't do what he does wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 10:15 PM |
| 0 | What makes a man a cuck to you?Absolutely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:59 PM |
| 1 | What makes a man a cuck to you?If a need is being unmet I think it's unfair to say even unconscious fantasies are off limits. That's very different to action, which implies a risk-reward analysis was performed (unconscious or not) and the woman felt that fulfilling that need with another person had greater value than the sum total of her current relationship. I will say I think that's different from repeated, purposeful offenses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:58 PM |
| 11 | What makes a man a cuck to you?The word 'cuck' sounds like a teenage insult, but I'll go with it anyway. In my opinion, a cuck is a man who is not desired by the woman he is with and directly or indirectly facilitates her seeking out/satisfying that desire with others. For example: If a woman desires to have sex with other men (or women) it means the man has failed to satisfy her. However, he is only a 'cuck' if he allows her to act out this desire by dating/having sex with other men, engaging in threesomes, watching pornogra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:31 PM |
| 3 | Why do guys claim they dont like plastic surgery?I agree with you that most men probably do like 'good' plastic surgery, but your statement that they like it because they enjoy porn is survivorship bias (I believe this is called apex fallacy around here). Most women who are successful in porn are naturally more attractive than the rest of the population. Regardless of whether or not they've had plastic surgery these women still have great bone structure, nice hair, are in shape, pretty eyes, etc. Put big fake breasts or a fake butt on an out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 09:13 PM |
| 4 | What is your take on the idea of your partner expressing interest in bisexuality?I'm not interested in bisexuals. It doubles the opportunity for infidelity and makes it borderline impossible to manage relationships in then way I want. First and foremost I'm a realist. I understand that if I am in a longterm relationship and frequently associate with women I find sexually attractive, the likelihood of cheating dramatically increases regardless of my present intentions. Therefore I don't do this to ensure the opportunity to sabotage myself doesn't arise. I expect the equivalen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 08:59 PM |
| 2 | What do you want to be appreciated for?Ambition/ability to provide: I can take care of a large-ish family with no needed supplementary income with room to spare, in one of the most expensive cities in the world. I can do this because I am A.) Unusually driven/ambitious and B.) Focused on providing my family lives better than the vast majority of the rest of the world. Earlier when we were dating my wife insisted this had nothing to do with how well we got along, but later she came around. How to appreciate this: Acting as a willing s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Men are committing the apex fallacy when they say how easy women have itIt could be our definition of difficulty. I view being 'difficult' in the job world as as being challenging, high-risk, etc. Cutting grass can be physically demanding but it is by no mean a difficult job, it's pushing a lawnmower back and forth. Building good highly technical scalable software on a tight deadline with an unknown buyer is incredibly difficult. In the same way, raising children is not difficult. Raising children of any age is not difficult. Physically demanding? Absolutely. I can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 05:59 AM |
| 7 | Men are committing the apex fallacy when they say how easy women have itNumber 2 has the difficult task of caring for small children all day As someone who has actually done this: raising children is not difficult. It can be annoying and frustrating, but if you were to compare raising children to any job I've ever had from age 14 to adulthood, I'd take raising children 100% of the time and it isn't close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/19 03:24 AM |
| 10 | How many of you think women were never oppressed?Of course men and women were treated horribly, and oftentimes men were treated drastically worse. Want to hear a really messed up story? I'm 50% native american. My ancestors (a mixed tribe from southern georgia) were captured en masse by Southern generals during the civil war. It was traditionally the men who were taken, although frequently the women were raped but left on the homestead. The men on the other hand were used for something different. In order to prevent Northern ships from taking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 10:18 PM |
| 1 | You Guys Don’t Really Want Divorce To Be Illegal Do You?Divorce shouldn't be illegal, but it should be treated the same way we treat any legal contract - if it's broken without due cause there are penalties. In other countries there are oftentimes social or religious penalties to divorce, but in the United States this history has more or less been overwritten by the women's rights movement. One of the most fundamental aspects of human society is the understanding that if 'we both sign on the dotted line' we are expected to hold up our end of the deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 09:54 PM |
| 4 | Pop Quiz: Objectification? Yes or no.None of these are necessarily objectification. The concept of objectification revolves around reducing someone's status to that of an sexual object. If I 'hire a woman because of how she looks' does that mean I'm interested in her romantically? Surely we wouldn't say making stupid decisions based on attraction is the same as objectification, right? If I am romantically or sexually interested in a longterm female friend and 'orbit' her because I want to have sex, does that mean I don't see her as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/19 05:39 AM |
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