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I don't think prudish is the right word, I have no problem listening to other people talk about it or share their stories, sex isn't something I find shocking or inappropriate, I just don't talk about it because I'm a mid 30s virgin with nothing valuable to say on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:37 PM
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the signs What are the signs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:01 PM
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I don't have a low sex drive, it's just never felt right to me to make the first move on women I don't think are interested, regardless of how I feel about them, that probably comes from never having a father figure. I've never misrepresented myself though, if people ask I'm an open book, women just never ask and at this point I doubt they ever will as I'm in my mid 30s; if it was going to happen it would have by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:38 PM
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She knew, and apparently had a crush on, me for years, surely she learned ar some point those sort of games weren't necessary? I can't imagine I'd have done anything to make her think I'd reject her for that, I was raised by women and sometimes wonder if people assume I'm gay, but I joked about being gay with her (the joke made sense at the time) and she just laughed and said "No you're not!", which, considering we had a group of friends that had a good mix of sexualities, it was probably obviou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:24 PM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, I can only think of two women I've known who acted like a virgin, one was a virgin until her late 20s and she lost her virfinity to a guy that pumped and dumped after wooing her, the other was super promiscuous and I felt like she sort of hid her sexual side from me, not knowing I knew how promiscuous she was. I had a thing for both of them as well (I knew them at different points in my life) but ultimately I felt the first woman wasn't interested, and too go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 05:09 PM
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if it's mutual You're ignoring the caveat that he doesn't know it's mutual because he has to be the one to initiate it. Behaving as a neuter isn't going to attract anyone other than mutual ACEs For men, women can act that way and still have no trouble receiving interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:40 PM
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Perhaps he is, but lacking any sexual vibes from her, decides it is better to avoid making her uncomfortable, rather than prioritise his own feelings over hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:26 PM
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If you can't get first dates, it doesn't matter if you are a good long-term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:23 PM
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Yep, is that a mystery? I've never acted like it's a mystery, I've been fairly clear that what women select for are men who flirt and sexually escalate, ahead of anything else and they'd not date a man, who was otherwise perfect for her, who didn't do these things. It's the OP waffling shite about fashion and "active hobbies" or whatever. If he doesn't have a valid reason to connect, he can't "create sexual vibes". Most women have had a one night stand with a guy she certainly couldn't have know…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:17 PM
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I never got sexual vibes from them either, but the blame is always laid at mens feet because they are the ones expected make it sexual. Now we're getting somewhere though, since my initial point was that being compatible, being fun, being well dressed or whatever else doesn't matter, what matters is if you can create sexual vibes, that is the primary filter of men, not any of the other waffle OP id going on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:02 PM
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Men who use the term "game" believe that deception and pretense are the key to seducing women. Red Pillers and PUA use it that way yes, in this case I'm talking about the rules that gatekeep men from dating, like asking women out on dates, flirting, physical escalation, etc, essentially the masculine role of being the pro-active party. Whether or not the compatibility is real or a manipulation technique, women hold men to these rules and expect them to play the game. Women don't approach men" tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:17 PM
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Women crave the most attractive men they are compatible with. This is not a factor in whether she'll date/sleep with him or not, it's a factor in whether she'll continue to date/sleep with him. Women will imagine up who a man is based entirely on how good at flirting he is and how he looks, it then just plays it's course whether or not they last long term. Men with no game or bad at flirting will be filtered out by women, even if those men are what she's looking for longterm. If women truly did …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:39 PM
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I've noticed most women seem to come at these discussions assuming men at least have the game down, and know how to play it, then assume where they are failing is in not having other aspects of their life together, but you could be the perfect man for a woman and she'll never even entertain the idea, if you don't approach her and flirt in the exact way she wants at that moment; a guy that gets that part right could be the next Adolf Hitler, he'll get picked first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:15 PM
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I've been told I'm fun by women and get invited out to parties, festivals and shit, I know guys who's only activities outside of those "passive hobbies" is tinder, drinking and casual sex. So I think this only really matters for long term compatibility, not in attracting women in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:05 PM
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I'd probably agree more with this, say, 100 years ago, but you can't really go out having hoe phases and loosely defined relationships then expect a 100/0 man to catch you just before you hit rock bottom. Women aren't exaclty a prize these days either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 08:56 PM
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Women don’t need to feel like more of a woman based on their partner, they already know that they’re a woman. That's cap, I've heard many women say they want their man to make them feel feminine, it's probably the main reason given for women's preference for men taller than them and no doubt a factor in why they prefer generally larger, more socially dominant men, unless you believe sating men's egos is a major factor in women's dating choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:31 AM
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All those women are attractive, I'd even say more attractive than the woman I mentioned with the filters and cosmetic surgery, add in the weird anime/horse girl personality and 🤌
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:26 AM
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The only picture I see on your profile is a filtered photo of a woman with a lot of makeup and at least lip fillers, maybe a nosejob.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:43 PM
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having a weird anime/ horse girl personality Sounds good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:34 PM
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So your sympathy has limits though and is metered out depending on the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:32 PM
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Do you have sympathy for child molesters who get locked up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 09:23 PM
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Introverted passive women manage to date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:53 PM
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No one in this sub is in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 08:51 PM
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Why? Is good only defined by your perception of the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:36 PM
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If they perceive women's issues in dating as self-imposed, then their lacking sympathy would be a natural reaction, they may well be sympathetic for something they see as a real hardship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:19 PM
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Maybe I haven't been in this dynamic because I have high standards for who I let into my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:24 PM
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And that's something I'd not argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:44 PM
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They knew each other and regularly interacted for 2 years before dating? He kept up a total façade for that 2 year period then completely flipped a switch once they'd been dating a while? I'm not defending abusers, I just think a lot of people rush into relationships and don't properly assess the people they date, I've seen it repeated numerous times, women getting swept up with a guy they've known like a week then coming out the other end a few months later saying how awful it was or other wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:43 PM
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Can you see though why some of the guys here have little sympathy for women who end up in abusive relationships when this is their selection criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:36 PM
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If you are in a relationship for a while before learning who someone is, then you got into a relationship too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:28 PM
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Isn't the complaint that she'd pick the "outgoing, intuitive, charismatic, socially attuned, perceptive, and playful asshole" over "the thoughtful, considerate, compassionate, kind, and mindful guy who is also high-inhib, diffident, introverted, pedantic, unintuitive, passive, socially awkward, and neurotic" guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:27 PM
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I'd argue both of those are reason enough to look elsewhere for a husband, unless you think ignoring laziness and listening to pressure from your mother are valid vetting practices?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:27 PM
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It gives you a significantly better chance of accurwtely judging someone's character and making an informed decision. Who cares what a lot of men say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:26 PM
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Absolutely zero signs for 4 years then the day after the wedding a switch flipped?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:16 PM
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I mean, you don't have to sleep with and date people you've only known a few weeks 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:15 PM
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How often does it happen that someone has a fundamental personality change into being abusive, without any previous signs, after moving in together, getting married or having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:49 PM
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Most people don't wait years, sometimes it's not even weeks, to get tangled up and involved with someone. In those scenarios you are rolling the dice on who you hope a man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:37 PM
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I get the impression ugly virgin women over 25 don't even want virgin men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:52 AM
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Abusers are master manipulators that come in all shapes and sizes. I don't believe they are master manipulators now I'm in my 30s and have seen friends go through abusive relationships, women don't listen to their friends warnings and ignore or rationalise away red flags, perhaps out of insecurity or desperation, I'm not sure, but women have a way of creating a fantasy in their head that was never presented by the man. I agree they come in all shapes and sizes, the only thing that matters is how…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:41 AM
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who is constantly posting An insignificant minority of men. Even if we said that every follower of PPD was a man who held these views about how hard to date it is, they would barely even account for 1% of the population of New York, let alone allow you to use what they post to say anything meaningful about humanity as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:12 PM
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I never said shallow, I think women put too much weight on pointless things (I don't mean looks or height) in the early stages, ignoring red flags and incompatibilities in men who know how to play the game. Who does or doesn't make the cut largely depends on how good you are at dating, not how good you are for her, and the whims of women are what maintain current dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 11:15 AM
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What I'd say is that they are not high enough, but the few selection criteria women do focus on are largely superfluous and lead to their dating woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:07 AM
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i hope they will learn from their experience and never make the same mistake twice. I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:43 AM
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you start picking awful men (neurotic, addicted to porn, insecure, butt ugly, jobless, without motivation, morbidly obese, violent, lacking empathy, not willing to do household chores, not looking after children). Women are already picking those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:36 AM
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I know where the term came from, but it's warped into an entirely different beast and generally anyone who uses the term now understands it to mean virgin guys who believe they will never have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:27 PM
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The extreme of redpill ideology is probably more like borderline rapists and abusive men, extreme blackpill/incel is more like murderous nihilism. Like what red pill believe are women are emotionally juvenile ("The oldest teenager in the house") and they look for ways to manipulate (or "game") them for short term gain, they don't believe in marriage, but instead preach having as much women available for as little commitment as possible ("spinning plates"), they also teach that you should workout…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:36 PM
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🤔 I don't think that really adds up, incels, by their own belief, can't be helped, the red pill teaches any man can have some success with women if they maximise their looks, money and status. If they believe in redpill then it follows they can't believe the "involuntary" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:29 PM
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That's what I mean, I feel that both atrraction and lifestyle compatibility should be there and with those two it should feel effortless, I'd argue most people aren't those things to each other and a lot of the time people see their effort going into "dating", where what they're putting effort into is trying to make something work when it probably shouldn't because they have either box ticked but not both. Like someone staying with and trying to please someone they see as physically attractive o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:31 PM
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You can be more discerning without effort, it seems like a lot of the effort people put in is trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:14 PM
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I often see this framed as being sex-negative, but people in relationships have more sex than those outside of it. It is highly likely someone who has had 1 partner for the entirety of their 20s has had significantly more, and more satisfying, sex than someone who has had 100 one night stands in the same time period. It's not sex negative to not want to date people that sleep around. Framing it as being about sex is a red herring, the real issue is your views on intimacy, risk taking, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:06 PM
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Sure it's odd by the strict definition of the word, however (not to sound r/iamverysmart) I have a high IQ and have felt out of place since I was a child, at first it was struggling to understand why other children couldn't comprehend things that seemed simple to me, then I started to overtake my parents and seeing them struggle with things that felt obvious to me was eye opening. Once the teen years came around and people were making hormone driven dumb decisions I felt more alienated than ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:09 PM
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I'm a virgin in my 30s, I do understand, but my own opinion of myself is more important than anyone elses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:55 AM
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Better than being in an unhappy relationship with someone I'm not compatible with
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:53 AM
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This is why I lose interest in women who have had casual sex, for me, if I'm at the point I want to date someone, I don't think about anyone else. People can have different values and want people who share them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:39 AM
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That's even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:35 AM
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Personally no, but a woman who has casual sex doesn't "check my boxes" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:14 AM
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Most replies here seem fairly reasonable, but I know whenever I mention on this sub that I don't want to date women who have had hook ups, FWBs etc, I'll usually get push back. I'd never mention it in real life because every one of my friends have had hook ups, FWBs etc, so it'd be a recipe for disaster even talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 08:04 AM
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I can't really point to any conditions or an event; it is something that has seemed true, a priori, as far back as I can remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:02 AM
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Incels are black pill, not red pill; understanding the difference will aid your arguments against red pill people, rather than entrenching their beliefs 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 06:55 AM
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I feel like dating should be like making friends, effortless as long as you are compatible people. A lot of the "game" in dating is just superfluous and obfuscates incompatibilities in attempt to attract a partner for how well they peacock, rather than who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 06:51 AM
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It's called being the average woman, dating men that are with them because she was one of the few that said yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:59 PM
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improve their personality Men can be abusers, serial killers, paedophiles, commit genocide, whatever else you can think of, there'll be women defending them, and they'll be able to have multiple romantic and sexual partners, so I think there's probably other things guys could be focusing on which women value more than personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:27 PM
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Do you have any examples of people who hold both those views simultaneously?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:32 PM
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No, but most men who don't respect women have plenty of opportunities to manipulate and take advantage of them and women fall for it hook, line and sinker over and over again. Guys who are respectful, keep their distance, respect boundaries and care for women in vulnerable situations rather than take advantage of them very rarely have recurring, no strings attached, sex with a high libido woman 20 years younger than themselves. By any metric this guy hasn't been rejected, he's had an experience …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:43 PM
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The point is, you slept with him, he was not rejected. I almost died and got my throat slit and he was the first person to pick up the phone. Yes I read that part and it just sounds like from the outset he took advantage of you in a vulnerable situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:25 PM
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You know, I've spent over 25 years of adult life seeing kind, intelligent and beautiful women end up with the likes of drug dealers, abusers or just unintelligent men not at their level, and seen it play out the same way everytime. A friend recently left an abusive relationship she'd been in for a few years, she was like a shell of herself, we grabbed a coffee together and she seemed to want to get a lot off her chest, talked about how miserable she has been and asked why does she keep ending up…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:21 PM
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Men who get laid easily have more options for long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:59 PM
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But you carried on sleeping with him? Like do you not see how ridiculous this all sounds?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:57 PM
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Yet you're out there sleeping with these misogynists?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:50 PM
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This post is a rollercoaster. What are you trying to say, women will sleep with misogynists, but not date them? Doesn't sound like that guy got rejected, you gave him what he wanted it seems, just not for as long as he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:49 PM
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This subreddit might as well just be renamed strawmandebate at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:51 AM
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I'm not even Red Pill, but it annoys me how many people conflate Red and Black pill along with Tradcon shit to form their arguments and then double down and accuse you of redefining the Red Pill when you point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:40 AM
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Eastern european women will make it known 😀 I'm reminded of a Polish woman who was in my class at college that sat next to me on the first day and lit up and chatted to me when she saw me, even out in the street, so maybe you're onto something, I remember being struck by how interested in interacting with me she seemed, the impression has stuck with me 20 years later. I would say perhaps I should go visit Eastern Europe, but it's too late for me now anyway. But even when women would chase. Youd …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:28 PM
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I was expecting like them dancing topless or something, these reactions to it are unhinged; I've danced more provocatively than that and I'm a virgin in his 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:55 PM
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If I had no other reason to believe she was unhappy with me, this wouldn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:56 PM
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If you disagree with women potraying themselves like that and think it is bad for them For some it's positively life changing, but the majority of the time it's just a bad time investment where working on education or career would pay off more, if they just do it because they get a kick out of exhibitionism, then we're incompatible for different reasons, though thinking about it, friends doing porn wouldn't be something I particularly care about either as long as they were safe. >You have select…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:04 PM
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Yes they will They will, but it's exceptionally rare. My own life experience is that women will just hold onto their desire for a man torment them, rather than let their feelings be known before he makes the first move. I had a friend crying, which she blamed on being a little hungover, as I was driving her home from having a meal with another couple we knew and never found out until months later the couple organised it to try and set us up. The 3 of them were hoping I'd make a move on her, I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:30 AM
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Where is the hypocrisy in not caring about what choices people I don't care about make? Human's have been creating erotic imagery for thousands, if not 10s of thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:09 AM
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I genuinely can think of few things I'd care about less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:40 AM
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Why do men get upset when women in their lives create porn? (Mother, sister, girlfriend, potential girlfiend, wife). Same principle, don't want women they care about to be reduced to sex objects for the masses and a naturally defensive attitude towards one's mate and loved ones against being viewed or viewing other men and women in a sexual way. I care about the women in my life, I don't care about the women outside of it. If someone wants to make shit life choices, that's their freedom, but I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:39 AM
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Men also have a choice of who they choose to pursue The who is seperate to the how, regardless of how much women they pursue and for what end, the rules sre still the same that the man pursues, the game is the same, only women have the luxury to choose both roles. Also humans dont necessarily choose who they are attracted to. Attraction is a seperate discussion, women will not date a man they are attracted to if he doesn't pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:20 AM
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The reality is that no single woman makes the rules The dating experience "is how it is" because each single women chooses to go by it, surely you get that, given you are an example of a woman who chose not to? The average dating experience is dependent on women's choices; women have the priviledge of choice, men, in general, have the choice between pursuing or being out of the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:34 AM
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In most other species it's the male that peacocks and the female selects among them, but even then, maintaining this dynamic doesn't stop women just being direct once a man has impressed her. I don't believe nature or cultural conditioning is a good excuse either, it's just fear and insecurity, and women know they have a pass on it, which leads to having no motivation to change things up. I'll never understand why women are so adamant to maintain that this is just how things have to be rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:12 PM
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I always find it interesting how people here often read more into a comment than it actually says.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:49 AM
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Politeness is a façade that can rarely hide the visceral disgust shown through people's eyes and body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:14 AM
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I always find it interesting how women have such strong opinions on how men should just face rejection, ignore their fears and insecurities, to do something women are unwilling to do because of their fears and insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:12 AM
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Yes, so the game is played however women want it to be played.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:28 PM
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If you can't afford to be yourself around a particular girl, she's not worth being with. Which I haven't denied, hence I am a virgin in my 30s because myself isn't what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:28 PM
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Yes, yes, good for you, but how does any of this add to and/or refute my original comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:29 PM
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Is anyone arguing against that? It seems people are actually arguing that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:17 PM
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It's not really virgin hunting, a woman who has been in 3 long relationships throughout her 20s has likely had significantly more (and more satisfying) sex than someone who has had 100 one night stands. I agree people can use their bodies how they like, but how someone treats their body says something about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:17 PM
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I am myself and don't pander to anyone, I'm also a virgin in my 30s. What you're saying only works if yourself is what women want, ourgoing, flirty, chases women and so on or you are exceptional in something she prioritises.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:14 PM
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The one you are excluding is the hardest to find, a woman who hasn't hooked up and managed to reach 30 with 3 or less exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 10:27 AM
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Most men can't afford to just be themselves and hope they come across someone like minded, if they want intimacy and romance in their life, because most women are "like that" in some way. I do find it amusing how you talk about being significantly above average height and then filtering out women who don't date short men, isn't that reducing short men's dating pool? Your post just reads like Donald Trump's "small loan of a million dollars".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:08 AM
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Men want it more.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:59 AM
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Obviously it still happens, but it's not something that affects the vast majority of women in the west.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:44 PM
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I'd imagine since around the time they stopped getting married off by their families.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:21 PM
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Men who don't pursue women end up sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:20 PM
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Because women set the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 09:17 PM
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Women don't want to pursue and as long as they are the one's setting the rules, I don't see any reason why anything would change or they'd have any appetite to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:32 PM
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Sure, I can explain that, but first I'm asking why they would feel entitled to those acts simply because a woman had done them with an ex. You're telling me I'm misrepresenting it, so I want to understand how. But you have no problem thinking she should do anal and threesomes simply because she did it with a previous boyfriend. Yes, so he expects her to be "consistent" in doing anal and threesomes simply because she had done them before You've not even been consistent over the course of 3 commen…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:12 AM
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I explained myself in my previous comments, there is nothing else to say because you are stubbornly going in circles and refusing to engage with what is actually being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:52 PM
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It's not hard to understand at all Yet you still fail to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:43 PM
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What double standard? He's not dating men, so why would he have a standard for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:42 PM
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I'm surprised this is so hard for you to comprehend. He is setting a boundary for himself that he won't be with someone who changes up what they will do for different partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:33 PM
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For example, I know plenty of women faking interest in sex for their husbands, but they’re also getting the things they want out of the relationship. That’s life. Life sounds depressing. Also, is it not understandable why someone would feel down about never being lusted for, as they are, without having to put on a façade? I think it's something women fundamentally cannot understand because experiencing male lust is the default for them, but imagine never having anyone lust for you? No one showin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:29 PM
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Where has he said that he thinks she should? He is saying that he does not want to date someone who is inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:21 PM
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It’s because men with this belief are operating on the assumption that the woman has had casual sex before. It's a fair assumption to make, I can only think of one woman I've gotten to know who I believe hadn't had casual sex, the rest of them I know they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:10 PM
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Why would that matter to a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:04 PM
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🤦🏽‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:20 PM
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happy to talk shit about the icky women doing it I can't think of any time I've heard a guy share this sentiment, porn is something that is very rarely even talked about in my experience amd the few times I can think of it coming up in convesation it was along the lines of talking about women they'd want to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:57 AM
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What red pill claims have you argued against and been met with that reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:52 AM
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The nuance here is whether you see recognising the potential negative outcomes of a choice as a reason to be against people being allowed to make the choice. To frame it another way, not wanting the people close to you to take a risk, does not say anything about whether you think people should have the option to take that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:33 AM
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The negative life outcomes of the people who do porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:17 AM
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Are you making that statement or putting words in my mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:16 AM
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I care more about the women in my life than I do strangers I have no connection to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:13 AM
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I'm not a red piller, but it's not exactly deep lore that red pill is about trying to understand women and how to seduce them, black pill says it's hopeless if you're not chad. They're two opposing philosophies and generally don't get along with each other, black pillers especially dislike the red pill because it believes any man can get results if he works on himself and develops "game". I also think the conflation of the pills is why discussion in this subreddit has gone downhill over the year…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 01:05 AM
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You're not debating anything, just stating your opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 12:35 AM
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I'll be honest man, I'm not really understanding why you are so set on telling me your opinions of the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:55 PM
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Most men don't get what they want, they take what they can get. Red Pill purports to be a guide on how to attract more, and more attractive, women and to have more fulfilling sexual relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 11:51 PM
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My views are unlikely to change unless I somehow end up in a relationship, but until then I have 30 years, and counting, of lived experience to base my opinions on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:32 PM
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They have to become chad to her, whether that is levereging the halo effect or developing "rizz", I don't think it really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:30 PM
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women won't be able to emphasize men's dating rejections As if they do anyway, no woman care's about a man's dating struggles, it just means he's a failure as a man to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:14 PM
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I think nudes are just a bad idea in general, the scenario presented here would probably just make me lose interest in her if I'm honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:49 PM
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To attract more women and make dating less of a soul crushing grind I would imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:42 PM
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Only if who you are is flirty and enjoys chasing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:41 PM
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You added the word just, he never said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:33 PM
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I don't need to understand the complete ins and outs to know men don't arouse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:03 PM
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I don't need to have sexual experiences with men to know men don't arouse me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:23 PM
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I'll never understand gold diggers. Well maybe to an extent I get wanting to leverage what you have for profit, but it's never been my outlook on life. I want to earn everything in my life, the person whose opionion of me matters most, is myself; if I didn't earn something honestly and through work, it's not worth having and to that end I've learned bushcraft and survival skills. I regularly spend long periods living in the wild and off the land because I believe it's the only honest way to live…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:36 PM
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Sure if we take your premise as a truth, but it's not what I've observed. I've actually heard from multiple women that their perception of a guy being "above" them has contributed to them having sex and dating them. I asked a woman who told me about her abusive ex why she was with him and she said "because I was surprised someone as attractive as him asked me out". Low self esteem plays a big part in women's choices and, as much as I hate to use the word, patriarchy, feeds women's insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:32 PM
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Judging by the handsome guys I know who do sleep around, they're not big on commitment and don't have particularly high standards, how easy a woman is to sleep with is a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:25 AM
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Only thing that would give me pause is the debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:51 PM
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Apparently, women’s personalities don’t matter, women’s preferences don’t matter, women’s autonomy doesn’t matter. In my experience the guys who think these things are the fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:50 PM
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Fair enough if you don't have a problem with it, but do you still expect men to approach women, to be sexually confident enough to physically escalate and so on? Those are how women select against inexperienced men and virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:41 AM
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Instant turn off and disgust unless she's very inexperienced. I don't think for the majority of women it is instant disgust, what they expect from a guy would generally require experience and if a guy can act like an experienced man, being a virgin wouldn't be a deal breaker because she'd just assume he could, but chose not to have sex, until he met her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:36 AM
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Not in a way that would make people choose it over other apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:46 AM
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It's clear in groups of men heirarchy often forms based on height and shorter guys get taken less seriously. Even if, intellectually, it doesn't make sense, my first impression of short men leans infantile. You see it in stats about CEOs being taller than average, among men and women, taller men are perceived as being more powerful; no one is thinking about the size of their dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:51 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:41 PM
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Do you realise you are doing the exact same thing as the people who cite things like women on tiktok as sources? The reality is that most guys who struggle in dating aren't out there looking for women to exploit, in fact it often appears to be the oppposite, where men willing to exploit women get what they want more often. If we take OP's post at face value, that it is actually adressed at men who struggle to date, but hold more conservative or traditional views, then men who want to lie and che…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:18 PM
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We've got a case study right here with our comment chain; two people, one who is open to casual sex, one who isn't, both with differing views.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:34 PM
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What do you gain constructing these strawmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:31 PM
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So, I would disagree. Yes, so you have a different view to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:11 PM
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What research? If someone is willing to have casual sex they clearly view intimacy differently to someone who doesn't, even if the former compartmentalises relationship sex and casual sex, they still view things differently to someone who is not open to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:00 PM
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Low body count is overvalued and too hyped for no objective reason Objectively, it shows a fundamentally different view on intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:47 PM
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It would be disingenuous and unfair on the women that attend these places of worship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:15 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I'm not jealous, I just lament how rare it is to come across women who haven't had casual sex, been pumped and dumped or in toxic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:57 PM
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I imagine this is a purely hypothetical scenario for most guys, but 1 and 2 aren't an issue, 3 maybe depending on how abstract they were being, if it was that she wanted to marry me and have my kids right away, I'd question her sanity, but if she said she dated hoping for the end goal of children and marriage then I'd consider that a green flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:55 PM
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It's not even about trying to date too high, you can have a woman super into you and if you don't get the rules of the game, you'll just end up alone and dating is just going to be an exercise in futility slowly sapping your mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:20 PM
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He's got a point though, we have to play by women's rules and if we don't, or can't, you'll fail, regardless of how a woman feels about you. For some guys it just feeds negative mental health and learning to live at peace alone can be a positive thing, maybe not becoming a hermit, but surely abstaining from trying to date is better than failing to date, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:05 PM
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Very few men are asking women they're not attracted to out on dates and actually going on the date, genuinely why would they waste their time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 07:53 PM
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I feel like the trend I see more than anything else is women selling themselves short in dating and relationships, I'm yet to meet any woman chasing high status men outside of one who used to joke about how she'll have to just marry a rich guy to own a house.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:50 AM
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I think that would be more fair if women were more upfront and open and didn't mask their feelings while trying to maintain plausible deniability in the early stages, I think there's a grey area between hot and cold where a lot of people operate. It's not always so clear cut between disinterest and game playing and I don't think it's always malicious or some sort of mind trick either, sometimes it can be insecurity and uncertainty. As a side note I do also feel like these discussions fall apart,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:44 AM
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Do man date girl that he always find attractive 100% Maybe in the rare event a woman asks him out, but considering men are the ones that have to take initiative and risk rejection, why would they do it for a woman they're not attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:05 AM
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Tbf I don't know if you can really draw many conclusions from this clearly bitter man getting bizarrely offended over a guy some woman online said was attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:41 AM
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Based and black pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:45 PM
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In this metaphor are you the mirror?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 AM
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Is it much use looking at the life outcomes of Gen X and Boomers when discussing current day dating, considering how much has changed over the last couple decades?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:59 AM
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Birds of a feather.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:59 AM
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What a depressing way to view your relationships with people. I don't even mind paying for people's dinner and have paid for friends and women I'm interested in alike, but if someone is coming at it with this perspective, I'd rather have nothing to do with them. Edit: I've also had women cook for me, pay for a meal or buy tickets to a band for us to go see, I think "who pays" is a pretty useless metric to gauge anything and it's just a way to avoid clear communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:02 PM
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Do you ever wonder if that approach just selects for those sort of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:37 PM
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act accordingly The crux of this is what you consider acting accordingly though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:34 PM
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I'm not redpill, but I often notice this framing, bluepill=positive traits, redpill=negative traits and see it conflated with the black pill regularly (i.e only looks matter). This is a strawman, as redpill doesn't tell men to be bitter and resentful, the point seems to be to accept the redpill understanding of women (AF/BB and so on, which, dishearteningly, is often corroborated by women here) and use what strengths you have to appeal to it, to have abundance and not pedestalise women. They eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:49 AM
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I was reading his comment thinking this just sounds like a redpill success story the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:37 AM
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For me it's 1, but I wouldn't have an issue dating a divorced single mother who had had sex with 3 boyfriends before getting married. Saying it's just about wanting a virgin woman is disingenuous, being open to casual sex and hookups says something about how someone views intimacy and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:32 AM
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I'm not the guy you asked, but feel like I could add something. The halo effect is obviously a studied phenomenon, but I think as humans we can intellectually choose to act against what comes to us instinctually, especially when it comes to our interactions with other humans. I know plenty of people don't, but the people that do are the people I want as friends and it's the sort of woman I would want to date, the idea of approaching sex and romance from this perspective, of giving everything to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:27 AM
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Yes I care, I would see her different, but I wouldn't think less of her, I just would not be attracted to her. It wouldn't matter if she still did hookups and wanted to hookup with me either, I don't want to date someone who has engaged in casual sex, as we have different views on intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:56 AM
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Most men, myself included, are told from a young age by the women in their lives to simply be themselves, be nice, and be a gentleman Is it really most men? I never got this message growing up, now I think about it the closest thing I got to life advice at all growing up was my one of my older sisters telling me to make money and not waste time with women and kids, funnily enough she's ended up pretty anti-natalist and says she hopes her kids never have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:48 PM
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Yes In what ways do you treat women you are friends with vs men you are friends with? In what way do you see women as different, warranting different treatment in this regard? I fundamentally dissagree with what you are saying as well, in my view you treat people depending on your relationship with them, not whether they are a man, woman or somewhere inbetween.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:06 PM
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Yes, and? Why not come to the conclusion I treat men like women and disregard men's reality? How should women be treated differently to men do you think? Should I treat women I'm friends with differently to how I treat my male friends? How about female vs male subordinates?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:49 PM
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What are you even talking about at this point and why not take it to mean I treat men like women? How are you imagining I treat women that "disregards her reality as a woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:35 PM
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Where did I mention treating them like a man? I am friends with men and women and approach my interactions with them the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:14 PM
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I'd argue it's harmful advice. I treat everyone equally and I think that's a big part of why I failed in dating. Unless you are just a flirty person, you have to treat your romantic prospects different to how you approach the rest of humanity, especially if you are a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:24 PM
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I know how you feel, I experience the same thing. No matter how much I like a woman, finding out she's had casual sex, threesomes or whatever instantly shuts down any romantic or sexual interest I have. But it doesn't feel very common to meet people like this. Especially given that I'm not religious and quite left leaning. I often feel like I would need to be in a religious community or around conservative/traditional people to have any hope, but I have no interest in either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:58 AM
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Birds of a feather
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:44 PM
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I am specifically using it to refer to those who use xenophobia and who scapegoat other races (i.e The Great Replacement), which is very much the MO of the far right/fascists. I think there's also something to be said about how we live in a plutarchy and politics is just a power struggle between different flavours of "elite" trying to divide and conquer the working class in order to advance their own interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:07 AM
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i read about people talking about "the great replacement" as the conspiracy theory of elites against the people The dumbest thing about that conspiracy theory is that it is exactly how fascist elites have divided the working class throughout history and pushed the common man to work against his own interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:16 AM
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What does holding these men accountable look like to you? Like what actions do you expect? I warned my friends and highlighted what type of man the guys they were getting involved with were, they had the choice to take the advice or abandon sense, either way it was them who payed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:40 AM
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as if abusive men swing on the first date and the woman thinks it’s fine I don't think any man here believes that, what I'm sure of though is I'm not the only one who has warned a woman about a guy, had her ignore the warning, only to go on and get abused by him. They constantly whinge we need to “pick better” Isn't "pick better" what the original comment of this chain was telling men to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:24 AM
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Yeah I think people who give this sort of be yourself/don't pretend to be what your not advice, don't realise that the advice entirely hinges on whether yourself is naturally inclined to chase women, if it isn't, you have to overthink and put on an act to even date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:08 AM
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Only women have the luxury of thinking like this and still being able to date, if a man isn't active in pursuing relationships with women he will be alone, regardless of what else in his life he has squared away.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:50 AM
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The men of this forum leaning red/black pill want other men to crane their necks and question their own choices in mate with the girl on their arm. What are you basing this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:18 PM
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I have spoken to a few women online who wanted to come meet me or a couple of them even offered to house and feed me if I flew out to see them, most were in first world countries and all had jobs, one even owned a house she rented out. I got the feeling they were just fed up of the men they were meeting locally. I don't think it was about hooking up either as they knew I was a virgin, unless they liked the idea of being someones first, they seemed fairly relationship/family orientated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 08:16 AM
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This hasn't been my experience, I don't use social media, but what I have seen, of the people I know, I wouldn't even describe their social media as a reflection of them, let alone describe social media as a reflection of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:31 PM
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Some examples of this behavior can be seen in the various social media platforms, with girls saying things like “bruh” and “dude” in every sentence or rapping along to trashy, vulgar lyrics. The short hair cuts are not new but the way they wear them paired with their androgynous style of dress has gone overboard. On top of all of this, their brash, aggressive and cocky behavior has far exceeded the “boss bitch” or empowered woman schtick and is now a very boorish, masculine persona. Have you see…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:22 PM
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I'd understand the rationale if we were talking about what I can do, like I know my own abilities and regardless of what people think, I have those abilities, but being sexy is an external thing entirely defined by the opinion of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:10 PM
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I could think I am the sexiest man alive, but if no one else does, what use is what I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:02 PM
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No. I don't think I could properly articulate the thought, but I feel like this difference in men and women says something about objectification.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:58 PM
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From my perspective most people seem desperste for validation and are needy when it comes to fitting in and being liked, but I realise I'm the outlier and I don't think me being as comfortable alone as I am is a strength. I’m very much a loner & have been single for pretty much my whole life, I feel like I’m at the point where I’m so used to it that a man will REALLY need to knock off my socks in order for me to consider dating him. I can very much tend to be a loner and have been single my whol…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:46 AM
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This post could be read as telling women to have higher standards for what they expect from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:49 PM
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You can say a lot with few words and nothing with a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:13 AM
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A neighbor of mine started dating a guy at 38 after she ignored him for years. Really sounds like she's winning at life and things are on the up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:28 AM
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They don't sleep with any more than they did ten or twenty years ago but if anything less And what are you hoping I take away from this? It's also true of women, a promiscuous minority have most of the sexual encounters (even if there's more of a choice to enter it in their case), so it doesn't necessarily constitute any kind of 'monopoly' either. I think stats are largely worthless when it comes to dating and socialising, annecdotes are obviously shaped by your environment, but your environment…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:09 AM
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50 years would be past the libido drop of menopause and onward to pushing 90. the man that had extremely limited access To one woman, chances are a guy who slept around isn't going to struggle to find a woman to commit to him and get the same 50 years of "sexual access" from a woman without going into his 30s a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 06:07 PM
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The guys I know who sleep around the most are also the most outgoing, flirty and best looking, they sleep with a wide variety of women, from overweight 50 year old single mothers to college aged virgins, the one universal is that most women entertain their advances and they're generally liked by most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:04 PM
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Did I claim otherwise? The topic of discussion is sexual success and OP equating it to reproductive success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:58 PM
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I don't agree with 80/20 or that things are as bad as people make out, though I do believe there are a minority group of men who sleep with significantly more women than the majority. Your argument falls apart when you consider that you can have sex once and bear a child. I believe the thrust of the 80/20 rhetoric is that 20% of men are having 80% of the sex or sleeping with 80% of women, if one guy sleeps with 20 women then those 20 women go on to find a virgin man in their 30s to impregnate th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:22 PM
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1-3 likes, other days as many as 5-7+ per day just one of the few women that in fact aren’t getting much attention? 🥺 you poor thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:10 AM
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They boast about such experiences. I know one of those guys, he looks like he could have been in a 90s boyband and is a super flirty sex addict, he has pictures and videos to prove his stories as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:05 AM
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If this guy has an issue with her “more promiscuous” past, he can choose not to date her. It's not like women are open about it, it's kind of hard to make an informed decision on the matter when women often put actual effort into distancing themselves from their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:27 PM
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My opinions on women come from having sisters and being friends with women in real life; seeing the stupid decisions they make when it comes to sex and relationships is enough to make anyone wonder what actually goes through women's heads. I attribute most of it to low self-esteem and desperation, it's the only faintly reasonable explanation I can come to as to why so many women sell themselves so short.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:44 PM
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I suppose I am coming at this from a different angle since I never wanted casual sex and don't want a woman who has, but regardless of what a man wants, a woman who does have casual sex probably isn't fit for a man who hasn't, regardless of if he wanted to and couldn't or chose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:28 PM
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A man who hasn't had casual sex not wanting to date a woman who has is the opposite of hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:20 PM
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To be fair, I don't think we ever disagreed!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:03 PM
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My original comment was meant to be flippant quite flippant, but it is quite self evident that more than one man has success on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:03 PM
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Have I given the impression that I believe there are 5 women on dating apps or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:49 PM
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I honestly didn't think I'd need to explain such a transparent, throwaway comment. The implication is that those 5 women are dating the same man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:41 PM
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Sometimes for evey 5 women gettings dates there's 1 man getting 5
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:16 PM
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frequently men will lament they cannot find a woman like this (because they only want the hot manipulative exciting ones) I lament it because those women barely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:25 PM
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Passive men will passively let women do all the work in their passive relationship. Men doing this is a complaint put forward from women who were chased by their man. I don't believe chasing women says anything about how passive you are in your relationships with people, romantic or otherwise; I've never pursued or chased a woman, but I have always been present and put effort into my friendships with both men and women, regardless of how I felt about them romantically. So... Why not make the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:51 AM
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Do you think how it forms plays a signifcant role in the dynamic of the relationship through it's lifetime? A large proportion of women experience some form of abuse from an intimate partner, in fact, statistically, the most dangerous people to women are men she knows, what part of how women are forming relationships creates this dynamic do you think? Are women not regularly getting used for sex as it is? Wouldn't the guys most willing to use women for sex be the ones most driven to pursue it? D…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:16 AM
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Tbf women would do themselves a service if they did chase and pursue relationships with men they are attracted to rather than waiting passively for someone to chase and pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:17 AM
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I considered it, I have quite a big family and there's been babies about for years until it got to my turn to be the one having them. I think my older sisters and mother would be onboard with helping as well, I can financially provide a good life for a child by myself and am paternal by nature, but I think back to my own childhood and how absent my father was (due to work and eventually alcoholism) and knowing the child would only really see me at evenings and weekends, I started to think, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:30 AM
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Congrats. You do realize this doesn’t happen to 99.99% of men, right? How many times have you been to a party, bar, club, festival, whatever and outwardly enjoyed yourself, danced and chatted to people? Most men have had this but only learn years after the fact because the women in question won’t approach. I have no interest in sex with strangers, so I'm a mid 30s virgin who has never even knowingly been on a date, I know the pain because some of the few women I have gotten to know and been inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:16 AM
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I'll clear up that it's not something that is happening everytime I walk into a club, I've also not been to one for a few years. Some of the scenarios where these happened as well were like one woman I carried between bars when her feet were hurting with her high heels or another example was friends with a woman my friend was chatting to and maybe felt like she was missing out? I am definitely not a handsome man or ever been shredded, I guess you could say I had a dad bod with a good bit of musc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:07 AM
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What use is considering the life outcomes of a Boomer when looking at Gen Z?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 11:06 PM
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I'm like a fat cave man, the only positive thing you could say is I look masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:50 PM
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I've had women I didn't know kiss me or grope me in clubs and I'm not particularly attractive, I've also found out friends had secret crushes on me, so I don't think it's always so clear cut with women. I definitely understand the frustration, I get why people are latching onto the whole "fuck me eyes" thing OP said, but women really can be very secretive with their attraction and it can be hard to know where you stand with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:01 PM
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I have a good friend I've know for at least a decade, we get along really and I used to have a thing for her (I found out a few years later she was really into me as well). One of her older friends kind of let slip that she had been quite promiscuous in college and I lost all attraction for her, it wasn't a conscious choice, she was and still is a great friend of mine and the same person she always has been, but there's no reconciling that I simply do not have any romantic or sexual attraction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:14 PM
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I know what I want and it's not perfection, but I don't want anything to do with a woman who has had one night stands or casual sex and it's not about my inexperience either, I'd be happy trying to date a widowed single mother, for example, who had dated her highschool sweetheart, I'd be happy to try and live up to that and make her happy over say a woman who had had a single one night stand that was an experience she disliked, with a man that was less than me by every single metric. What's more…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:55 AM
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You're not too old to vibe with a fairly recent college graduate My lifestyle in college and right after graduating feels like a lifetime from where I am now. I'm established in my career and a homeowner, most of my friends are getting married, have kids or at the very least have long established relationships; I have nothing to relate to with a recent graduate. rare for someone to go through college staying away from hookup culture The majority of people have had a one night stand or some other…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:38 AM
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That first link has the majority of men never married?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:59 PM
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What age range did the stats you talk about take into account? Members of the silent generation, boomers, x, y and millenials are living and covered by "above the age of 30".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:03 PM
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Mid 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:56 PM
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The majority of American men marry by 32, which means they meet a woman they'll marry in their late 20s or earlier I don't think stats like this are particularly useful when you consider, for example, the guys who are turning 32 now were 20 when Tinder launched. So much has changed in the last decade that you can't really say what it's going to be like for current and upcoming generations of young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:16 PM
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There's of course no guarantee, but if you don't look, of course, your chances of finding it are lower. What I'm looking for doesn't exist at my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:15 AM
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Young women cheat more than young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:05 AM
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Where are the women worth marrying? Where are the women who haven't engaged in casual sex? I'm saying this as someone with no interest in casual sex, but how can you expect men to feel any sort of enthusiasm for this when who you are asking them to dedicate their time and effort to courting has likely had one night stands, friends with benefits or fallen for and been used by fuckboys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:30 AM
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I know a guy who is a complete sex addict, but is also a stereotypical "chad", super flirty as well and he has had threesomes and more, managed to convince 3 random women he met to sleep with him and his friend, but his friend chickened out so he just slept with the 3 women himself. I know how ludicrous his stories sound, but man he takes videos and photos of his exploits and shows them to people. I also saw how he was with women and I've yet to meet a "type" of woman that didn't at least entert…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:21 PM
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I want to be wooed and pursued like my grandma was by my grandpa. To be fair, why would a man be inspired to woo and pursue knowing how many women have casual sex, one night stands, friends with benefits, booty calls, etc, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:35 PM
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Bump into me at a grocery store, help me pickup my oranges and overly expensive avocados, tell me I have pretty eyes with a cheeky smile while you're done putting them back in my basket. You sound like the sort of woman I wish I'd met 10 or 15 years ago, but do you ever think about how a man would get into a scenario like this? He'd be doing it based on zero knowledge about you, how many times would he have to go through it with women who are in relationships or just not interested in him? How m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:30 PM
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I enjoy his height but I certainly didn’t choose them because of it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:06 PM
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I've been lurking and commenting here on and off for years, he used to talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:13 PM
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Pretty sure he's F to M trans, who was an escort before transitioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:39 PM
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Maybe stabbed by a group of senators is fitting punishment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:04 PM
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Perhaps we shouldn't be giving men weapons at all? Do you think anyone should be given weapons?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:03 PM
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Your attitude kind of feeds the whole "starter girlfriend" thing. I'd fall into the category of men this thread is talking about, but I've had women (that I found attractive) come on to me in clubs and so on since like my teens, though I have no interest in casual sex and only really cared about finding one woman to commit to. As I got older and found out how much women care about experience, I started to wish I'd just bit the bullet and went through with it with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:43 PM
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I don't think talking it out with their wife would've saved those cities and nations to be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:29 PM
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I wouldn't assign a moral judgement to it, this is just the way the world is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:41 PM
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From what he listed, "take a risk" and "reconsider what you're doing or trying a different avenue".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:52 AM
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I knew a woman that was a virgin until her late 20s then managed to get used by a guy who dumped her pretty quick. You can act all morally superior, but most women will fall for an attractive guy if he gave her attention, the one's who haven't had casual sex (a minority of women anyway) just haven't had an attractive enough man attempt to seduce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:19 AM
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I don't know what a thot is, but even the homebody types that I know, who have been in relationships most of the time I've known them, have had a hookup or two when single or have a friends with benefits type situation. I think the vast majority of women, especially outside of religious communities have had some form of casual sex and I have a few attractive friends who have slept with women of all varieties, even women in relationships and married women, really I can't even fathom where I'd mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:59 PM
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I know quite a few women like that who have never participated in casual sex, had ONS or FWB I've yet to meet any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:33 PM
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Y’all constantly say women have way more options than men, but you have nothing to base this on I think it's an easy conclusion to come to when you consider how passive women are in dating and the fact it is significantly rarer for them to ask men out; most men aren't even presented with options to anywhere near the same degree most women are. You even reinforce this later in your comment: what about the average woman who aren’t falling for that guy or even on his radar? Are you approaching them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:28 PM
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Those women barely exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 02:22 PM
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doesn’t that speak of weak stock? Given that women are most at risk of violence and abuse from their partners and men known to them, probably not. Being chosen by women is probably more of an indictment than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:37 AM
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you would have to be a provider with a steady job and the ability to support your wife and children while being faithful to her. None of that is hard to achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:30 AM
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I think anyone who actually spends time paying attention to people realises there's some fairly rigid rules people stick to, particularly in dating. Maybe there is some nuance in the minutiae, but you can only see the same patterns repeat themself so many times across multiple generations to realise the nuance doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:30 PM
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People rail on simps or desperste men, but I actually think if I was one I probably wouldn't be a virgin in my mid 30s. I'm probably the other extreme and believe my stoic demenour makes women I am interested in think I'm not, there probably is a middle ground, but from my perspective the vast majority of guys look desperate and seem to date and have sex fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 10:20 AM
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I've met like 7 women in my life I wanted to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:43 AM
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This is ridiculous. I'll never understand women's apparent need to be victims and inabiliry to just admit that when it comes to sex and relationships they simply have it better. Even in this scenario it's not 2 options, bad sex or no sex, it's a chance of bad sex, a chance of good sex or having no sex and that's if you simplify it down into absurdity; casual sex can lead to long term relationships and happiness, having no sex never will. The person who doesn't have the choice to even roll the di…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 08:13 PM
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a woman who had no sex Those women are exceptionally rare, I can think of one woman I've ever known that hasn't at least hooked up with one or two guys and she was a virgin until 28, then she lost it to a guy that strung along for a few months. or who has had 1-2 partners. My friend would put herself in this category, in fact she would've put herself in the 0 partners category a couple of years ago despite not even knowing how many men she's slept with. Even then, a woman that has had 1 or 2 par…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:37 PM
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How many late bloomer women are also sexually inexperienced though? A friend of mine I've known for nearly a decade described the guy she's just broken up with after a couple years together as her "first boyfriend" and used to mope a lot before that about how she'd never had a boyfriend at 30. I've met at least 3 guys she dated for like 3 - 9 moths each, I imagine there's been more, I also know she has hooked up with so many guys she's lost count and had multiple friends with benefits. I think l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:52 PM
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