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Okay, thank you for your permission. "I don't find talking about their generalizations worthwhile," because they have zero application to my life and are detrimental to my circle of friends. Based on how their beliefs and tactics harm people I know, and knowing that I have a very varied group, I'm pretty sure they are detrimental to society as a whole. Yes, generalizations could be factual. I don't care. I don't like them, and I don't think an indepth reason why I don't like them needs to be a p…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 09:25 AM
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Okay clarification: generalizations are just fine. I have no problem with them. I don't do it though, especially when it comes to how a whole bunch of people behave. But um, that's how this whole conversation started. I don't like the red pill's generalizations. I find that behavior toxic.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 05:55 AM
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In that example, the generalization would be "smoking is bad for you." You'd be correct, except for those couple examples. Look I'm sorry, you're not going to get me on board here. I don't like any philosophy that makes generalizations about men, women and how they do/should behave. You're not going to get me to forget an entire class of people just because the overall percentage of them is small. It's best you take your recruitment elsewhere.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 03:38 AM
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Depends on the situation. I just don't think we should make judgments about all men or all women because not only are there differences within those genders, but there are also people who don't fit in either.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 10:35 PM
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You can generalize if you'd like. I choose not to, and neither does anyone else I know.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 07:40 AM
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I says "at least twelve", I don't really have a specific number. Could be more or less. You call the intersex bits a defect and it's okay to think that, but I think it's all the more a reason to remember the world shouldn't be built around men vs. women. We know male and female brains are wired differently, and we've seen them in the wrong bodies. Jumping off from that, I can bet there are "intersex" brains. Different genders. I just couldn't tell you how many, and simply classify people based o…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 06:22 PM
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I know. That's why I said multiple sets of genitalia and multiple genders, separately.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:14 AM
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I haven't heard someone seriously say either of those in years. Not articles "for women by women", because all of that is sensationalist nonsense. There are good men everywhere. I've yet to find a woman who sincerely believes that's not true in the past few years. I guess I've never seen the dating game at thirty because of the ten or so people I know personally, all of them are in blue pill committed relationships except for one, who is a sex educator and polyamorous. I've heard of predatory wo…
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:55 PM
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shrug
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:44 PM
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I looked and saw it was downvoted, and skimmed it. You talked a lot about genders being "separate but equal", a philosophy that I find toxic. You talked about constructing systems around differences between genders, which I find to be a silly idea. There are a dozen genders and three sets of genitalia someone can end up with, so who would want a world built on the male/female dynamic?
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:20 PM
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And no one expects those men to be automatically attracted to us, so that works out. You're an individual attracted to another, so you pursue them. It has nothing to do with being provided for, or trying to nail down a mate before becoming ugly. Again, most women aren't consciously doing anything you're describing.
/r/MensRights22/11/13 04:05 PM
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Ah, a traditionalist. No, I prefer the majority of the men's rights movement on this one as I do think the genders are interchangeable. It's just however you want to define yourself.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 11:44 PM
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That's so far from prefect, though... Sounds like you've learned all you can from that place and should leave now. It's a toxic environment. It's more about manipulating than avoiding manipulation. Get out before you become what you loathe.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 11:41 PM
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Well that sucks, let's fight that. We can start by encouraging women to show financial independence by paying, and encouraging those who already do. Men paying does seem prevalent, but the fight can't be hopeless.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:42 PM
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The red pill promotes pushing past soft no's, pressuring your partners into sex on your terms, preying on the weak, not emotionally being there for a longterm partner, promiscuity in men but not women, double standards like men having female friends but women shouldn't have male friends, double standards on women who spin plates being bad people, and what I can only describe as a bone-deep belief that women are immature and intellectually inferior.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:38 PM
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I think the Men's Rights movement has a chance and fully intend to keep fighting.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:10 PM
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All of the issues you've listed have to do with being attractive young, and what it does to people. Or people who are just predatory in nature. Enough women have fallen victim to attractive and manipulative men doing the same thing that I'm pretty sure gender is entirely outside the issue.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:10 PM
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Really? I've paid for at least half of mine, and try doesn't seem very unusual. But yeah, guys probably pay more often than not. So hey, feel free to tell your date you believe in going Dutch on the first date.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 10:05 PM
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Okay. There isn't any universal rule of payment.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 09:01 PM
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There shouldn't be any universal rule of payment. Work it out with your date. Personally, I think the general consensus appears to be "whoever asks, pays." You know that woman don't consciously, maliciously reject those put-together guys right? I wasn't attracted to them as a kid, plain and simple. It wasn't me consciously going, "Oh how boring, I think I'll spend my years of youth on something exciting." They were just generally uninteresting, and I--and I imagine most other women--weren't "sys…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:06 PM
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Me? Well it makes me a little sad, but that's from my knee-jerk "No one should die alone" opinion. But if it makes these men happier, that works. In action, it seems to be a huge self-esteem boost and these people lead productive, self-motivated lives. But then they realize the real truth--that that's what makes a person attractive to the right people, and then they're not alone. But I really, really don't like the Red Pill. I find it insanely unhealthy, but I try to approach it neutrally when I…
/r/MensRights21/11/13 05:04 PM
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The man is born as a rational creature and is a natural-born leader. It is in a woman's best interest to find a man to follow, and to get him to provide for her. (See /r/redpillwomen.) A man on the other hand, should never trust a woman as they are irrational and manipulative creatures. However, if given the right instruction, they too can learn to manipulate and bag as many women as possible. Basically men lead the family and provide the bread, women take care of the man and household, even if …
/r/MensRights21/11/13 04:41 PM
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No, I don't think he should. Sex is a performance for men. It's a lot of work, and frankly I take a while to come. There are nights where it's just too tiring, like nights where we don't feel like doing the dishes even if it means a good, clean kitchen. We are happy to make each other happy, but I don't want him to make me happy at the expense of himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 03:57 PM
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I will never touch my husband without him wanting me to. I will brush his hair, kiss him passionately, I'll cook for him, I'll undress and try to seduce him. I'll warm him up to the idea the best I can. But if he's not in the mood, I'm not going to go, "Dude, marital contract. We are supposed to provide each other with each other's needs--and one of my needs is sex." I don't want grudging sex, or sad sex, or just-do-what-you-must-but-make-it-quick sex. That's all just... really sad. If he doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/13 02:50 AM
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Cool, that's good.
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/13 10:01 PM
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...Interesting, but as concerning to me as the Red Pill following. Men contribute as much as women do, as far more than sperm donors. Men are people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 08:09 PM
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It would be dissatisfying to someone who wants to be monogamous. So in this relationship, the woman gets to sleep around too, right?
/r/RedPillWomen29/10/13 01:23 AM
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...?? Nope, all American here.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/13 03:56 PM
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I have my hands in both subreddits, generally confused right now. You'll see I've posted encouraging stuff here before.
/r/RedPillWomen10/10/13 07:08 AM
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Yeah that's fair, those reasons are all pretty shitty... I guess we're in agreement in a really roundabout way!
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 08:12 PM
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No not just cuddling, that was just my example. Kissing, touching, I'll even just touch him if he'd like--all other examples. At my worst, I can at least be there and talk dirty while he masturbates. Sex rocks, but it's a lot of performance anxiety that I just can deal with on some days.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 07:47 PM
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I wish a was a feminist. Seems like every man I know is stronger and more in control than me, I can't deny that. Sorry, just being curious. I like poking around this subreddit for solutions.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 07:38 PM
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Because you're not "giving him, 'I'm not in the mood'." That implies it's an excuse, or you're deflecting him. This is coming from a recovering nymphomaniac: I can be so sad or angry at the world that I cannot imagine doing something as amazing as sex, right now. Yes, I'm holding the monopoly, but he's not going to go more than a couple days without. Sometimes I need to recoup. Maybe I just got laid off, maybe I'm having a really bad fight with a friend, or news or money or work are stressing me…
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 07:35 PM
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Or wanting to delay a sexual facet of their relationship, to see if the man will stick around after sex. I think "no" is a big, and important part of that. Just because I want to have sex with you some day doesn't mean I want it right now. But okay, I see your point. It's nice to know that the Red Pill rules bend a little bit in marriage, I hate to think of how many women on this subreddit were faking it 'til they made it, as that seems like a horrific nightly ritual to me.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 07:18 PM
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Why isn't my "no" a "maybe"? Maybe it's been an absolutely horrific day, and the idea of pretending to be really turned on or, even worse, faking an orgasm will just make it worse. Maybe I'd just like to relax and kiss, cuddle, be intimate without having to perform as a woman. I think physical and emotional exhaustion have as much merit as having the flu, especially when I can still give light physical affection.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 07:05 PM
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My only protest to this is that I worry it's not safe to tell someone who has taken the red pill that, "I'm not in the mood for sex" means "I'm not feeling like sex right now, but feel free to convince me otherwise." Sometimes seriously, please, no. I mean it, I am willing to beg for a rain check. When does your SO know when your "no" is "maybe" and when your "no" is "no"? I know some members that would take every time you say "no" as "maybe" if you use the word as that even once.
/r/RedPillWomen09/10/13 06:33 PM
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Hey, I replied to this thread here, if you want to read what I do. Wishing you and the OP lots of luck. =)
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/13 08:54 PM
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So... I'm not subbed here. To be honest, I don't really like it here. But I browse sometimes and noticed that here was somewhere I could actually comment, so hi. I approach(ed) guys as soon as I can find something in common, that's the ice breaker for me. What are they reading on the bus, any interesting accessories, tattoos, the like? Ask them about it, if you're curious. I even compliment them on it, if I know what it is and also enjoy it. I keep a really open profile, no crossed arms or legs,…
/r/RedPillWomen03/10/13 08:53 PM
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