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| 1 | Hypergamy does not care. | King_Yautja | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 02:03 PM |
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| 9 | CuriosityYou are dangerous to men. If you and I were married you could, at any moment and for no reason other than boredom or whimsy, file for a divorce and get half of my assets (even if you had nothing and married into money), lifetime alimony, the marital home, primary or even sole custody of the children, and if you were feeling particularly vindictive you could throw in a false domestic abuse charge just to sweeten the pot for yourself. Not only can you do this, you are financially and socially ince… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/07/21 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Got a girl pregnant and she’s holding it over my headDo not let her put your name on the birth certificate before you get a DNA test. It gives me no pleasure or satisfaction to say this, since you seem pretty invested in this kid's future life, but dollars to doughnuts it isn't yours. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/07/21 07:03 PM |
| 4 | I Am MGTOW, but also want to have kid. What should I Do?You might as well just get married then. At least that way, if it works, it's a more stable environment for the children. Why do we swear off marriage? Because it's legally dangerous. When you get married you invite the state into your life, and not in a good way. This is doubly, triply true when you have children. I'm not telling you don't get married or don't have kids, do whatever you like. What I'm telling you is that you cannot make this coin land on it's edge where you retain the "legal in… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/21 01:48 PM |
| 40 | This is how rare high value men areThing is, as soon as they get it, the bar gets raised again. If you got an athletic 6 footer with a 6 figure income, they'll start looking for a guy that has all of that...and is 6 foot 3. You earn $105,000 per year, they'll start looking for $150,000. Even if you tick all the boxes all that happens is that you become the new "floor". | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/21 10:41 AM |
| 12 | I Am MGTOW, but also want to have kid. What should I Do?I think we necessarily forgo ever having children. MGTOW is not a reproductive strategy. It is a self preservation strategy for a dying world. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/07/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Be honest: gone or sent your own way?What's the difference? Based on the unconscionable nature of marriage as a legal institution, I chose not to participate. Does that count as going my own way or being sent? Since MGTOW is kind of by definition a reaction, the distinction between "gone" and "sent" is hazy at best. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/07/21 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Help me understand thisWhat is there to understand? You've already correctly diagnosed the problem; society has absolutely no problem with double standards, inequality and cognitive dissonance provided it comes down in favour of females. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/07/21 12:00 PM |
| 2 | How many of you turned mgtow without actually being hurt by women?I did. I eventually went mgtow due to lack of options. Not that I can't get women, the problem is there's no quality women. Show me one that is not a carousel rider, looking for a free dinner, thinks she is the table, isn't entitled to the entire world, or a raging feminist, and I'll show you a unicorn that shits bitcoin. So really it came down to "this is what I've got to choose from? I'm out." Combine that with the hassle of dating, risks of pregnancy, sperm jacking, stds, false allegations an… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/07/21 10:51 AM |
| 6 | Instantly DefensiveThat's a great example of their solipsism. They have an unlimited capacity to rationalise everything so that they chips land in their favour, at least inside their own heads. It's a system of mental cheating, but then they rationalise that away too. The rationalisation always one hop ahead of the facts. I can give you a few other examples I (a man) say "some women do X". X in this context is negative. She will immediately assume X includes here, even though I said "some" and did not quantify. I … | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/07/21 09:15 AM |
| 3 | Baby Rabies Is DisgustingIf I remember correctly he is gone 4 maybe 4 and a half years. So in that time she has mourned for him, rebuilt her life, started dating again, met a man, dated long enough to decide to marry, got married, got pregnant, and had the baby, all in under 4.5 years. She moved fast. If he was gone 10 years, that would be different. Of course she has to get on with her life its entirely reasonable to assume he died in that crash, but for the timeline to add up she must have been back on the market with… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/06/21 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Does the survival of the fittest theory apply to humans?As a living organism is necessarily does. Ultimately MGTOW is maladaptive. We do not reproduce and are therefore an evolutionary dead end. So, in that sense, we are unfit for the environment. But MGTOW is not a reproductive strategy it is a self preservation strategy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/06/21 12:50 PM |
| 1 | “Women have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic”You cannot change their mindset. Even if you point it out to them. You may be able to convince them in the moment, but precisely because they are solipsistic they will later rewrite history inside their own heads. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/06/21 11:10 AM |
| 8 | “Women have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic”It's their natural solipsism. Thinking the world revolves around them is not a bug it's their default setting. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/06/21 11:04 AM |
| 3 | Wiping out an entire generationThe thing is as well, you cannot wipe out a generation and get away with it. It's not as if society can say "oops, we screwed up so focus on the next generation". You cannot skip a generation; reproduction is necessarily an unbroken chain. But oh well, not my problem. In the words of the universe's greatest mgtow (Dr Manhattan) I'm tired of Earth, these people, I'm tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/06/21 05:48 PM |
| 22 | Can I ve mgtow if I have a girlfriend?Sure. It's go your own way, you're way will be different to everyone else's. If you're in a relationship, just make sure you're still going your own way; marching to the beat of your drum not hers. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/06/21 09:28 AM |
| 2 | The TERFS Are Actually the smarter Feminists.If they were smart they would have seen this coming. Now they have to eat the whole crow, feet, feathers and all. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/06/21 11:51 AM |
| 12 | Bro do girls change??She absolutely will change. See they do know what men want; pleasant, virtuous etc. and so they will play that part to get the man. Once they're married to you then they know they've got you by the balls now, so there's no more need for the masquerade. Date, spin plates, bang if you wish, but never marry, never cohabitate, always use a condom and always flush it when you're done. She's not yours, it's just your turn. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/06/21 01:20 PM |
| 46 | Don’t think she’ll stay if your income is reducedShe's already decided to leave him she just wants validation. They don't have kids, so hopefully he gets out of this relatively financially intact. Let's see if she can get some other $750k a year surgeon now that she's older and divorced. She thinks she knows her worth but we know she belongs to the streets. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/06/21 11:31 AM |
| 25 | Just curious, what do you think about guys who still women, dating and everything else?There's nothing stopping us from dating, many of us still do. But I do think it's only a matter of time before we all go "monk". You're 30, so you're not a teenager. I'd say give it another 5-6 years and you're attitude towards sex becomes more and more "meh, I can take it or leave it". Once you hit your mid-30's that's when the switch flips. Upstairs brain is now doing more thinking than downstairs brain. At the same time the laws become more and more insane every year. I think the dating marke… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/05/21 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Noob questionIt's not "forbidden", but as a basic definition a "married MGTOW" is a contradiction in terms. MGTOW are men who have sworn off marriage, so if you changed your mind and got married, you would not be MGTOW. It's a bit like an atheist that believes in God, you cannot be both at the same time. Your first instinct is correct the main reason for likely most of us not wanting to get married is simply the risks involved. Half of marriages end in divorce and getting divorced means going to divorce cour… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/05/21 12:05 PM |
| 9 | What Should Be My Approach Towards Women?Who cares if it's sexist? Society is gleefully sexist towards men, so fuck'em. I don't like sexism, or racism, or any of the other ists or isms. I really do wish we could all just be "people" and get on with life, but apparently that's not an option, so why should I care? Why should you and I hold ourselves to a higher standard when everyone around us does not? Why play by rules that no longer apply? | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/05/21 06:35 PM |
| 5 | How far do you think humans can go there own way - space colonizationI personally believe in 200 years time we will be less technologically advanced than we are now. Every civilisation that has ever existed has collapsed. The Roman Empire should have put a man on the moon 1,000 years ago. Think about it they were very technologically advanced for their day, and instead of finally being sacked in 462C.E what if they had kept going from strength to strength? They would probably have discovered steam power in the 6th or 7th century, and electricity 100 years after t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/05/21 12:52 PM |
| 2 | How to divide your income ? Or any financial advice for a 21 year old about to graduate MGTOW ? Life advice also appreciated.No debt (mortgage excepted). Have 4-6 months worth of living expenses in cash. Never spend what you do not have. Invest. Invest. Invest. Compound interest is borderline magic but it takes time to work. At 21, time is on your side. People who work 8-10 extra hours per week make 50% more money on average. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/05/21 11:26 AM |
| 6 | Why I can't go full MGTOW. I am sorry, my kingsDoesn't make much sense to include "never married" in a breakdown of statistics laying out the risks involved in being married, but sure. "Divorce rape" is a blunt slang term we use to describe what typically happens to the husband in divorce proceedings i.e. lose his house, his money, half his pension, alimony, put on child support etc. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/05/21 12:25 PM |
| 17 | Why I can't go full MGTOW. I am sorry, my kingsThere's actually a third option; you stay married (and thus never get divorce raped) but you're stuck in a miserable marriage, which is most of them. So it's not a 50/50 split between happy marriage and mgtow. It's more like 50% chance of divorce rape + 44% chance of miserable marriage, with only a 6% chance of actually having a happy married life. It's up to you if you want to risk it, but just know what the risks are. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/05/21 12:15 PM |
| 2 | So this girl came up to me a few days ago while I was in a coffee shop and told me that she had a crush on me. She asked for my snap and idk why I gave it. I guess I’ve been red pilled for 2 years straight and it was a moment of weakness. She told me she argues for fun, is this normal ? Do I block??If she is messaging you at 2am and it's not because she wants the D, ghost and move on. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/05/21 10:49 AM |
| 2 | Do you believe in the "let a shark be a shark" theory?Society has set up its rules so that they don't have to. I think that's certainly half of it, but only half. Take a hypothetical scenario here let's say it was entirely legal for us to commit rape. You see a beautiful woman you're physically attracted to, you just rape her, and this is not only legal, but is actually met with societal approval. Could you do it? Of course not. The very idea of it is nightmare fuel anyone who could bring themselves to do that to a woman is a pure psychopath. Even … | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/05/21 01:26 PM |
| 5 | Do you believe in the "let a shark be a shark" theory?If a shark killed me, it is what it is. The shark does not do what it does out of malice. It is not being sadistic, it does not hold a grudge or wish to see me suffer. It's not capable of thinking things through with that level of abstraction. It's just a predator trying to survive. But you cannot say that about people. As you said yourself, we have our own predatory instincts hardwired by evolution, but the whole point of "civilised society" is that we do not act on them. Unlike sharks or tiger… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/05/21 11:16 AM |
| 3 | Mental gymnasticsDoes anyone else think this guy might actually be guilty? He sounds like a male feminist, and we know what they're like. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/05/21 08:28 AM |
| 3 | Your Experiences With Female DoctorsTo be honest every experience I've ever had with a female medical professional they've been nothing but professional. If I have any issue at all it's the fact that they tend not to stay doctors. I have a cousin that did that. Got into (and graduated from) an elite medical school, and retired after just a couple of years because she was like 27 by that point and she and her husband wanted kids. She could have let someone else have that spot in the med school. Now society is down a doctor. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/05/21 08:27 AM |
| 1 | What do y’all think about this as a minimalist home gym?Way overpriced, you're paying for the screen, and I'm not a fan of cables because there's no requirement for you to stabilise the weight yourself. Buy yourself a squat rack, a bench (which you can just put in the squat rack to double as a bench press set up) a barbell and 200lbs of plates. That's minimalist. You'll get way better results and all in you'll spend half as much. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/05/21 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Are Trans women,Wahmen?Relationships with regular women are fine. Just don't marry one or get yourself into a common law situation, and if you like trans-women just come out as gay already. It's 2021 dude no one cares. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/05/21 02:53 PM |
| 5 | Are Trans women,Wahmen?If trans-women are women then the prefix "trans" is redundant, they would just be "women". I think the answer to the question are they/aren't they is "no". We all know this. Take the debate about trans athletes competing in women's leagues. Even the most die hard "trans women are women" advocates do not just make the argument that they are women, and therefore there is no justification for excluding them from women's leagues, period. No it has to get really pedantic about testosterone levels ove… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/05/21 11:12 AM |
| 123 | BROTHERS, The Femnazi's Seek to Slander us....WE MUST PREPARE.It's kind of hilarious that they hate MGTOW. I mean, isn't MGTOW exactly what they want? They want a world without men, and now that men are saying "OK, I'll leave then" they hate it? They don't want us gone. They want their punching bag. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/05/21 07:45 PM |
| 0 | 15 y/o female here :) Just a few questions about the nature of MGTOWNot a fan. I think that's mostly the younger guys though. Trying to talk tough. At my age it just comes off as immature. I like to see more positive things, like long term financial advice. I think the "all women are bad" crowd are probably a minority, or in the grips of the "red pill rage", which is just a phase it's part of the healing process. My take is that all women can be dangerous. We all have our good and bad side, the problem facing men is that we have a social and legal system that op… | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/05/21 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Training on open air vs gym - personal experience.There's a few concerning points here. The big one is your use of testosterone and HGH. First of all that's a lot of testosterone. Someone else already posted the natural range as being 4-7mg/day. You're tripling that. Not only will this have side effects it could also mean you stop naturally producing it entirely, making you dependent on artificial sources. You said yourself it's made you sterile. That's not good, because the question becomes what the fuck else is it doing to you? As for HGH tha… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/05/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Making women sign a consent form before sexual intercourse.OK so she signs it, you bang, then the next day she says "I signed it under duress" and it's void. It's not worth the paper it's printed on. No real names. Don't use dating apps (because they log your real phone number the police can track that). Always go to her place. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/05/21 11:33 AM |
| 2 | As a man in his 20s, what’s the best advice you can offer to me, and other men in the same age group?At 10% interest compounded over 35 years even that adds up to almost $350,000. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/05/21 08:40 AM |
| 5 | As a man in his 20s, what’s the best advice you can offer to me, and other men in the same age group?Invest. Invest. Invest. Compound interest adds up like magic and the most valuable ingredient by far is time. The longer you leave it, the more it adds up, and trust me it adds up like you would not believe. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/05/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | I'm not a MGTOW BUTI don't think it's stupidity I think it's just maladaptive. We've evolved to live with a certain dynamic, and operate within certain constraints, but what happens when you up end that? Take food for example. We're evolved to like fats and sugars because they're high in calories, but also rare. But when you create the modern world with artificially high abundance of fats and sugars, most people are fat as fuck. It's the whole good times/weak people thing. Good times enable people to go off the ra… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/05/21 03:22 PM |
| 9 | I'm not a MGTOW BUTYou're not wrong. Society has become the human equivalent of the mouse utopia behavioural sink. I think the general attitude among us is "not our problem". | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/05/21 01:51 PM |
| 1 | I consider this another reason to go mgtow.Takes the time to reply "you cited no evidence to this" before going back to only swiping right on Chad and Tyrone. You cannot win an argument with a solipsist, pretty much by definition, so don't even bother trying. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/05/21 08:07 PM |
| 7 | How often do you see males gas lighting other males?Not so much any more, because I deliberately don't associate with people that do. I used to see it a lot. Amongst my (mostly former) circle of friends, most of them are still in the same job, or same level of job, as they were 20 years ago (for context I'm almost 40) but as I started to pull away from the pack in terms of career path and finances I found myself in a real "crabs in a bucket" type situation and cut contact with most of them. It goes without saying don't tolerate it from women, but… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/05/21 08:04 PM |
| 2 | The problem isin't women, you're the one who's heavily undesrible as a mate. Become a man.How is the problem not women? The average American woman is 5"4 and weighs something like 175lbs. At least a quarter of them are on anti-depressants. The average body count by the time they're 25 would probably fill a cemetery. Add to that the entitlement, the attitude, the "I'm a strong, empowered wamyn here me roar", and I can barely stand to be around them. The average woman is just not worth it, and before you cry "sexism" I'm sure the average man isn't any better but as a heterosexual guy I… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/05/21 05:57 PM |
| 7 | Would you marry a rich woman far more wealthier than you?Hell no. I think it was Chris Rock that said "why does your woman always nag and bitch at you? Because you were not her first choice". If a woman is dating down the wealth ladder then you are so far from her first choice you can't even see him. You'll have no sex life, she'll cuck you, obviously divorce you if you cheat, berate and resent you. As a general rule I try to avoid even casual flings with women who are my financial equal or higher. They either got that money by divorcing the first guy… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/05/21 06:33 PM |
| 0 | Are we being invaded?I haven't seen very many, and the few that I have are mostly respectful and the questions come across as good faith. I haven't seen any attempts to disrupt or police it so I would not call such posts "intrusive". | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/05/21 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Is watching porn simping?how does it apply to the scenario presented. Is it not obvious? The cuck is the one who watches. The cuck doesn't get to fuck the girl he desires (she's probably disgusted by him) the cuck only gets to watch another man fuck the girl. Whether its porn on a screen or your actual wife, the same basic principle applies; you're nothing more than an observer. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/05/21 08:25 PM |
| 1 | Is watching porn simping?The term "cuck" originally meant a man whose wife was cheating on him. So any husband that was cheated on, whether he knew or not, was a cuck. The meaning kind of changed to mean a man who supports his wife sleeping with other men, up to and including watching it. These days it has a broader definition. For example are you a cuck if your girl is on OnlyFans? | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/05/21 06:01 PM |
| 7 | Is watching porn simping?It's simping if you pay for it. Otherwise I'd call it being a cuck (is "cucking" a word?). But yeah as a general rule porn should be avoided. Porn is for your brain what sugar is for your teeth. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/05/21 12:58 PM |
| 8 | feminist's or sex robots.Sex dolls are a little to close to necrophilia for my liking. If the choice is some dead eyed TP doll or a feminist, I'll just go monk. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/05/21 11:01 AM |
| 3 | What motivates porn "stars"?It wouldn't surprise me if most of them had been sexually abused in the past. I think they're trying to get some sort of validation, but in a totally misguided way. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/05/21 07:14 PM |
| 3 | My MGTOW Story - Prophet Mohammad was a Chad/TyroneWasn't his first wife like 20 years older than him? And yes, he married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9. Also isn't visiting prostitutes haram? You've certainly got the right give no fucks attitude regarding your personal life, but I'd drop the religious apologetics. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/05/21 07:12 PM |
| 3 | My fellow mgtow men: What do you like to do for fun + Do quality women exist?Lift weights, driving, learning new things Yes I think they do exist, but finding one is too much hassle/risk with too low a probability of actual success. You'd need to go through hundreds, maybe thousands, of women. All of which would cost money (dates etc.) and any of which could flake on you and falsely accuse you, sperm jack you etc. and even if you're a bit of a chad and you can get 1 date per weekend every weekend, 500 dates would be almost 10 years. Fuck that I've got better things to do… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/05/21 04:28 PM |
| 3 | Karl Marx was rightIt's cultural Marxism that has created this fucking mess. I don't think people realise that the ultimate end goal of socialism is to turn every woman into an unpaid prostitute. He half succeeded he just forgot about the 80/20 rule. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/05/21 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Can this woman change MGTOWs views on Marriage?I made it 2 minutes into the video. Prenups are NOT protection from divorce rape. At best, they lose value over time. If I'm a millionaire and I get married, even with an iron clad prenup all she has to do is tough it out for 10 years and the judge can throw the prenup out on the basis that it was a long time ago and circumstances have changed. Depending on the judge, they might just declare it unconscionable and throw it out even if you've only been married 1 year. I'm not in bondage to my weal… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/05/21 03:57 PM |
| 1 | Some concernsYou'll probably still be alone at 60. Only difference is you'll be divorced and broke. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/05/21 08:12 PM |
| 0 | Women are born with what Men want and desire. Men have to change and adapt into something that women desire. Mostly, that change is in the form of 'success'.You know what I mean, retard. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/05/21 08:22 PM |
| 1 | How can I invest my money or make and save a lot of money while being single? Any career recommendations or any advice? I’m 21, wasted my years being a simpFirst things first, no more hookers. There's no point investing money if you're just going to blow it on pros. You need to purge your demons first. Put your own heart and mind in order before you try to build a castle. So step 1, no more hookers. Ever. That also goes for drugs like weed or coke if you use those. These are addictions and addictions lead to ruin. Step 2, clear off any debt. You've already blown your savings, have you racked up credit card debt? Pay that off. Start with the card wi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/05/21 08:13 PM |
| 1 | Women are born with what Men want and desire. Men have to change and adapt into something that women desire. Mostly, that change is in the form of 'success'.It's nothing to do with society. Women are born with what men want; youth, beauty and fertility. What we want from them is inherent to the state of being a young woman. What women want from men is good genes, protection and provision. You're only born with 1 out of 3. What society has done is unleash the female mate seeking strategy while demonising and pathologizing any attempt by men to hold them to any sort of standard. They are born with what we want and they waste it. They only bitch and mo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/05/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Loyalty is deadI would not say it is dead, it's just hard to come by, and the reason for that is because I think loyalty is inherently masculine. If you think about it you go back 50,000 years you and I are 5 feet tall and hunting some 800lb ice age sabre-beast and all we have is a sharp stick, whatever beef you and I might have back at the camp (both got our eye on the same female or something) out here the other man might just save your life. I think that's the evolutionary origin for the "band of brothers" … | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/05/21 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Bill gates divorce megathread.If you're a genius level engineer workaholic bent on building a multi-billion dollar company, blue pill or not why would you even bother getting married? | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/05/21 07:20 PM |
| 9 | You can’t make this shit up fellasWell at least the top comment is just telling him to call it quits, rather than lambasting him for not embracing the cuckoldry. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/05/21 07:06 PM |
| 4 | Alpha Seed, Beta Need... Nice guys always finish last...It's truly amazing how many clichés she was able to fit into 250 words. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 04:24 PM |
| 2 | Monogamy kills male libido - The Coolidge effect100%. I know that I'm describing is a sort of idealised "that's how it should be" scenario. I know that's not how it works in reality. Especially with the laws being what they are, you'd have to be mad to get married. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 11:00 AM |
| 2 | Monogamy kills male libido - The Coolidge effectI'd agree with that. If I'm the HVM, just based on my own personal standards of how I conduct myself, I'm willing to meet her half way. If I'm not going to avail myself of my options to satisfy my sex drive, she needs to do everything she can to pick up the slack, which means sex when I want it, not when she can be bothered. If I want it once a day, but she wants it once a month, she can either get on my schedule or accept that she's not the only one. Or get lost. If she expects me to provide he… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 10:37 AM |
| 2 | Hi everyone! I am new and have a simple question that is still a bit vague to me. What is the difference between Blue pill, Purple pill and Red Pill.No worries it only took a minute. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Monogamy kills male libido - The Coolidge effectI'm on the fence with this. I can definitely see the logic in the view you have presented. I don't think it is entirely unreasonable for a woman to expect a certain amount of integrity from her man. Just because he is a HVM and has options does not mean he needs to avail himself of them. If I am said HVM, the question for me at that point becomes did she avail herself of her options prior to meeting me? If she's a virgin, or has only had 1-2 previous partners in her life, I don't think she's out… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong to have hope? I'm giving up...I agree with everything you said. The internet was a mistake. The female brain is a far more social creature than the male brain, it's part of our evolution they're more dependent on the support of the tribe than men. She needs social validation, and the internet lends itself very well to this it allows her to get social validation on steroids. It's a hack, it's doing an end run around her psychology by giving her the validation from thousands of people rather than five, but her brain cannot tel… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 09:41 AM |
| 2 | Do you respect wgtow?I'll respect it if they actually do. If they are "single" but getting alimony from their ex-husband, support from the state etc. then they are not going their own way (this is also true for MGTOW btw). But if they really are self sufficient and pay their own way, hey who am I to judge? More power to them I say. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/05/21 08:57 AM |
| 7 | Hi everyone! I am new and have a simple question that is still a bit vague to me. What is the difference between Blue pill, Purple pill and Red Pill.It's a reference to "The Matrix". The character is literally offered a blue pill and red pill and told to choose. The blue pill means he remains ignorant. The red pill offers him the truth and the ability to see the world as it really is. "The red pill" as become a pop culture reference for accepting the reality of the world as it really is, even if that truth is uncomfortable or distressing. "Blue pilled" is a pejorative used by those in the red pill community used to describe those who are (us… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/05/21 08:56 PM |
| 2 | Do you guys think America will start a second civil warI think America is already in a civil war. It's a cold war, for now, but I think it's only a matter of time before it goes hot. The fractures are too deep and there's no real will in the direction of reconciliation. Quite the opposite I think there are camps on both sides that view the idea of civil war involving bullets rather than reddit posts with a certain glee. What the prices at the grocery store. Especially watch the prices at the pump. California is the most expensive state for gas I loo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/05/21 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Are people aware of the coming death of everything or are they just that fucking naive?Enjoy the decline. I agree with you I'm getting real "Fall of the Roman Empire" vibes these days, and most people just don't want to see it. I actually expect that in 200 years time we will be less technologically advanced than we are today. But hey, I'm 38 years old. Never married, no kids. I've got maybe 40-45 years left at the high end. In the words of Dr Manhattan, why would I save a world I don't have any stake in? | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/05/21 07:40 AM |
| 0 | Is it contradictory for MGTOW to believe in AWALT?There's no contradiction. All humans are a mixed bag of innate behaviours, learned ones and free choice. Innate ones would apply to all due to evolution, learned ones would be largely cultural, and the free choice comes down to the individual person. AWALT does not mean "all women are identical robots". What it means is that the behaviours women have that are of most concern to us, are the innate ones. Or perhaps the innate and the cultural ones (in a culture that enables the worst of their inna… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/05/21 07:37 AM |
| 1 | Are some men who call themselves MGTOW just MSTOW (Men Sent Their Own Way)?I think this is the fundamental difference between MGTOW and incels. The latter wants to wallow in their own self pity. It doesn't matter if you chose to GYOW or were sent, the question is what are you going to do about it? It's a philosophy of self improvement. | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/05/21 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women are taught a common agenda to pursue when it comes to their intentions of dating men?"Taught" is not the correct word. I think "enabled" is more apt. There is such a thing as human nature, and human nature has it's dark side. "Human nature" can be subdivided into "male nature" and "female nature" because we are quite radically different from each other both physically and psychologically, and each has their respective dark side. What is male nature? Unlimited access to unlimited females. How do we achieve that? By becoming the highest value male around. The king of the hill. The… | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/04/21 09:47 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: We've left the topic of women behind... so what now?OK. Start saving and investing now. Let's take the simplest example possible a man at 20 and a man at 40 both inherit $100,000 so they both invest it, earning 10% per year growth (that sounds like a lot but the stock market average for the last 30 years has been 9.7% p.a, so I'm just rounding off). Rule of 72; you divide your interest rate into the number 72, that gives you the doubling rate of your money. So in this case that $100,000 will double every 7.2 years. Call it 7 for convenience. The … | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/04/21 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: We've left the topic of women behind... so what now?A big one I always like to discuss and share what I can is financial advice. A lot of guys, especially young guys, do not know how to invest their money, or even that they should. Even basic things like compound interest most people have no idea how powerful it is. Protecting ourselves financially is probably a major reason a lot of us are here, but protecting what you've got is not enough the question is how do you grow that? The beauty is that you don't need to a $100,000 a year job, you don't… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/04/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | How can we do better?I can only speak for myself here but my issue is not with women. I've met women I did not like as people, I've met women that I did. Same for men. There is no amount of improvement you or any woman can engage in on an individual level because (although there are some major issues with the behaviour of modern women) that's not my issue. What keeps me away is the fact that a social, political and legal system has been created to advantage women at men's expense, to the point that dealing with wome… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/04/21 11:58 AM |
| 6 | Question what exactly is the top 20% of men?In today's short term hook up culture it'll be top 20% in the looks department i.e handsome 6 foot plus men in good shape. Western women do have high standards. Outright delusional standards in fact. As you said there are multiple axis along which you could be a top 20%er and what they want is a man that satisfies all of them at the same time. A man who is above 6ft tall, makes about $150,000 yearly, owns rental property, is ripped and in shape, and has a degree is a top 20%er in 5 categories, w… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/04/21 08:31 AM |
| 1 | I need advice about bitcoin.Best wallet to start with would be a hardware wallet. You can get a ledger nano s off amazon for less than 100 bucks. It's a little USB dongle easy to use easy to set up. Very secure. I was involved in bitcoin for a long time until I lost it all in a tragic boating accident but would still recommend investing some cash in it as a high risk/high reward play. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/04/21 06:51 PM |
| 6 | Thoughts on using porn?Speaking for myself I don't watch porn. Watching other people fuck? Let's be honest, it's pretty beta. Yes you get a bit sexually frustrated but I find there are benefits too that; stronger, more energy etc. I don't believe any of that "transmutation" woowoo bullshit, but it is possible to redirect that extra energy you have just by using to apply yourself to something else. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/04/21 01:12 PM |
| 4 | Why are women allowed to post here exactly?People will have questions, some of those people will be women. As long as the question is respectful, what's the harm? If they don't like what we have to say, they can leave. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/04/21 01:10 PM |
| 17 | Does anyone else have zero interest in going on dates anymore?I don't chase it, but I will go if it falls in my lap. Just coffee at Starbucks though, so at least financially I'm only out of pocket 10 bucks. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/04/21 01:08 PM |
| 2 | Do married men live longer then single men? Is this real or a myth?There might be some truth to it. Testosterone is what kills men it makes us susceptible to a few common ailments that affect people in their later years, and they affect men disproportionately. Married men have lower testosterone, which in turn might lower their risk and statistically add a few years to their life expectancy, but I'm not sure that's a trade worth making. 50 years as an testosterone fuelled alpha or 60 years as a henpecked beta? I know what I'd pick. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/03/21 09:06 AM |
| 1 | What are your realistic predictions of what the US will look like over the next decade?See I disagree I think these things have a habit of accelerating. The situation deteriorates really slowly until it hits a tipping point and then it deteriorates really rapidly. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/03/21 06:57 PM |
| 8 | What are your realistic predictions of what the US will look like over the next decade?I don't think it will exist in 10 years, not in its current form anyway. I don't think the trend of identity politics and general degeneracy can be reversed. They're too far gone its no longer a merely political opinion they are now biologically different. You can't talk someone out of that. The US will tear itself apart the best we can hope for is a bloodless break up. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/03/21 12:50 PM |
| 3 | Is living by yourself worth it?I think living alone is a must. Learn to stand on your own two feet. I know people who still live at home, and we're a lot older than 18 now, and the ones that live at home I can barely stand to speak to because I can feel that gulf between us in terms of maturity. There's nothing worse than a boy in a man's body. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/03/21 10:11 AM |
| 2 | Men can't seem to stay married..It's the reverse Midas touch. King Midas wished for the power to turn everything he touched into hold, and got it, only to realise what a huge pain in the ass that power is when you can't turn it off. It seems women are a bit like that. They want what they can't have, and as soon as they have it they don't want it any more. They want commitment from the guy who has options. But by committing to her, he diminishes his value in her eyes because he eliminates his options. There is no way to make th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/03/21 12:14 AM |
| 1 | 19M, needing advice on what to doI was exactly your age when I lost mine. 18 years ago now. The experience was a huge...disappointment. Honesty what a let down. I've put more effort into a sandwich than she put into that. I know it's easy for me to say having done it but it really is one of those things when the thought of it is better than the thing itself. No shame in being a virgin dude. As for your weirdo friend. Well, she was a weirdo. She made you fly out just so she could stomp on your balls? Come on, that's some psycho … | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/03/21 12:07 AM |
| 0 | How do you picture our world after 60 - 120 years? After effects of feminism and other shit along with simpsThere's a rhetorical question I like to pose when talking about the challenges western civilisation currently faces; why didn't the Roman Empire put a man on the moon? The obvious answer is "they did not have the technology" but why not? The answer is "because they collapsed before they made it that far." Had the Roman Empire endured, they might have been putting a man on the moon in the 12th century. But they didn't, they collapsed and regressed. 12th century Italians would have looked at Roman… | /r/MGTOW2 | 25/03/21 06:12 PM |
| 7 | Politician: "Let's place a curfew on Men... to protect women."If this actually passes, ignore it. If questioned just say "I'm a trans-woman, bigot" and carry on. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/03/21 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Where can I learn the basics of criptocurrency and investing?I hear the internet is a great resource. Seriously though your question is too broad if you can narrow that down a bit I might be able to give you some specific pointers. So, very broadly; Is in investing a good idea? Absolutely. Essential, I'd say. The most important ingredient is time, so start young and hold for a long time. Don't day trade. You don't say how old you are but I'm guessing you're pretty young (under 30?) so this needs to be a 30 year project. Always remember the rule of 72. Qui… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/01/21 11:14 AM |
| 3 | A thoughtful question.Unicorns don't exist. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/01/21 11:36 AM |
| 10 | I wonder if they will approve of my cock and balls sculpture...Anyone else notice it's the men doing the actual digging while she takes selfies? | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/01/21 11:34 AM |
| 3 | Investing in yourself.Trade school. Plumber, electrician, car mechanic etc these jobs aren't going to be automated away, they are skilled, well paid and always in demand. Grounded, real world practical skills are going to be what's needed rather than this ethereal nonsense we have today like "social media presence consultant". If you started now at 30, you could be self employed by 40. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/12/20 06:22 PM |
| 2 | What the hell does "Who hurt you?" Mean?If a woman had a husband who physically abused her and she managed to get away from him, who would blame her for being a bit wary. They say "who hurt you?" as if being hurt and then learning from bitter experience is a bad thing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/12/20 06:16 PM |
| 17 | apart from your mom, sister and wife, should men still defend and help random woman that needs help? or we should just completely ignore them even when the crime is directly happening infront of us?I remember once being on a train late at night. After 11pm last train sort of thing (this is going on 13 years ago or so). I chucked a couple of ne'er-do-wells off a train for harassing a young woman (when it got to the station I didn't throw them from a moving train). It wasn't just harassment I'm pretty sure when she got off that train they would have followed her. Fill in the rest. I had enough, told them I was going to kick the shit out of them if they didn't get off at the next stop, and th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/12/20 06:11 PM |
| 7 | The basics and a question.We have a term for the anger it's called "the red pill rage". It really is like the 5 stages of death. The guys who are bitter, vitriolic and yes maybe come across as a bit misogynistic are in the anger stage. The reason for the red pill rage is because we've been lied to. We're told do this, be that, treat women like this, and you'll meet a nice woman and settle down for a nice life. It's all bullshit. The red pill is finding out you've been sold a false bill of goods your whole life by people … | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/09/20 07:25 AM |
| 10 | Advice for people who check out fdsThere's a simple explanation for that; hypergamy does not care. Anything that enables hypergamy is good. Anything that impedes or frustrates hypergamy is bad. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/20 07:10 PM |
| 19 | Advice for people who check out fdsI'm glad it exists. Let's all see what they really think (spoiler: its a bunch of sociopaths looking for their next mark). | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/20 06:25 PM |
| 12 | Honest questionGood question. The answer to both is I honestly cannot remember. It seems women get all of their politics, and everything else that comprises their personality, these days exclusively from social media. They have an algorithm instead of a personality. That's true for a lot of men too, not just having a go at the ladies here, but women are more social than men by nature and so are more susceptible to it. This was in fact a big factor in my tapping out of the dating market entirely. I need someone… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/20 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Am I the only person who is seriously concerned about how onlyfans will affect society?I can definitely see it becoming a major problem for society. I just don't see how that's my problem. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/20 07:31 AM |
| 4 | The future?I'd say probably half of men would be in favor of that tax; the weak half. If it came down to it, an actual fight, there wouldn't be a fight they'd stand there crying in a puddle of their own piss. They know that. If it came down to open rebellion, they would just surrender, because they know even if they outnumber us 3 to 1 hitting us with their handbags isn't going to cut it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/20 01:12 PM |
| 2 | The future?Because then they have just openly declared all men to be slaves, and who are going to be the enforcers? Women? I think a "man tax" would be the bridge too far where men finally put their foot down, and that rebellion would be the shortest rebellion in the history of rebellions. It would be over before we finished breakfast. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/20 01:05 PM |
| 20 | The future?I think the west is futureless. Ultimately we're all mortal and we all die. If we don't have children we don't have a society. But I take one look at that and file under "not my problem". MGTOW is definitely growing, I dare say even becoming "mainstream". Perhaps not under that exact acronym, but many men probably consider themselves "determined bachelors" even if they've never heard the term "MGTOW". Divorce rate will go down I reckon, simply because marriage will go down. Are women going to ha… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/09/20 12:54 PM |
| 2 | How do I know if a girl is wifey material and how do I keep her in line?Women want they cannot have. That's what gives them the tingles; the guy they cannot have. Once you are committed, they've got you, which means they don't want you any more. This is why sex in marriage is basically dead after 1 year, she's just not attracted to her husband anymore. Why? He is her husband. It's the chase, the anxiety that he's seeing other women, that turns them on. It doesn't make rational sense, but don't expect it to. Men are rational, women are emotional, and steady dependabl… | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 11:10 PM |
| 4 | How do I know if a girl is wifey material and how do I keep her in line?How do you know? You don't. How do you keep her in line? You can't. Women say they want commitment, but do you know what turns them off? Commitment! | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 10:29 PM |
| 12 | What weekly activity (aside from love/sex) feels better than masturbation to you?The "pump" while working out. Even the Govenator agrees the pump is as a good as the coming. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 10:33 AM |
| 16 | Do you want kids later?Men cannot have children. Father children in the biological sense, sure, but always remember when you have kids with a woman, even your wife, they will always be seen as her children. A man getting a fair custody deal is like winning the lottery. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/09/20 10:32 AM |
| 8 | Be Careful At WorkDude, that's genius. The person that works under me is about 2 years from retirement I was thinking of asking her if she wouldn't mind staying in touch and maybe coming into the office now and again as needed, and I'd just pay her cash for coming in for a couple of hours. Easy work and a little bit of extra cash for her, peace of mind for me. But turning that into a business? Genius idea I bet not only a lot male managers would employ the services of such a firm but I'm sure there's a lot of pen… | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 06:57 PM |
| 16 | Be Careful At WorkYeah it's really the best solution I can think of. You got a man as your minute taker? She can say you both assaulted her. A young woman as your minute taker? She might side with the accuser out of female solidarity. The best compromise solution I've found is to have a much older woman (like 60s) with "no time for all that silliness". It's probably as close to trustworthy as you're going to get. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 12:46 PM |
| 30 | Be Careful At WorkAt work when I to do interviews, especially hirings, I have a specific member of my staff sit in with me. She looks like, and is, a grandmother, and has that "no nonsense grandmother" attitude. Ostensibly she's a minute taker but her real purpose is as a witness. More than once she has probably helped me dodged a bullet because she'll tell me if she thinks someone is trouble waiting to happen. She's got that old lady radar she can headshot a thot at a thousand yards in pitch blackness. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 11:53 AM |
| 3 | Do you still believe in love?No. Women are not biologically capable of loving men. Men love women, women love children, and children love puppies. That's the way it goes. What is love? Love is sacrifice, love is a willingness to put another person before yourself. Women cannot do that. It's not part of their evolutionary wiring. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 09:46 AM |
| 5 | Found something in NoFapI do nofap. I don't actually like porn. Not because I'm white knighting for the "actresses", I just find it in poor taste; whacking off to watching another man plough some girl. It's voyeuristic. I think there's definitely some truth to the stories about increased energy and focus, I think abstaining just leads to an overall healthier brain. | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 09:42 AM |
| 3 | How To Not Hate Women After Knowing All She Have DoneIf a great white shark bit your leg off, does it make sense to hate sharks? No, it's a shark, it's just doing what it does. The solution is "don't go in the fucking water". | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/09/20 09:37 AM |
| 2 | I question on perspective?It was off track but it would quite illuminating, because I see it all the time; with creationists. I'm not accusing you of dishonesty here, I think it's an unconscious thing. In case you don't know "a creationist" is someone who believes in biblical literalism, they do not accept Darwinian common ancestry, especially with regards to humans they completely reject the notion that we are biologically related to other primates. They come to debate evolution and get taken to school by people well ve… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 11:15 AM |
| 3 | I question on perspective?Dude, you're giving a sermon. I don't know what you hope to achieve. You seem to be trying to convince yourself more than anything. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 10:59 AM |
| 2 | I question on perspective?That's a nice sentiment, but that only works if it's going both ways. If it is not, then you're just another sucker. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 10:43 AM |
| 4 | I question on perspective?I'm not bitter about it, nor and I wallowing or lamenting it. I'm quite happy with the current circumstances of my life. I'm just less willing to throw myself on the sword than you are. We agree the stats are what they are, the only difference is I don't think I have to put up with them. A 75% probability of being cheated on, a 25% probability of unknowingly raising another man's child, a ~50% probability of complete financial ruin, I don't see why I should just grin and bear it. Walking away fr… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 10:17 AM |
| 4 | I question on perspective?Alright, I won't. For a start, for each additional sexual partner a woman has above 1, the probability of divorce increases dramatically, most divorces are initiated by the wife. So yes "her number" does matter. So what that she was with other men, she chose me as I chose her? I'm not going to diagnose your marriage. I don't know you or your wife. However, speaking for myself I would be careful. The question at the forefront of my mind would be why is she choosing me? Why didn't she settle down … | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 09:56 AM |
| 1 | I question on perspective?I kept it general, you're making it personal. Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answers to. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 09:38 AM |
| 1 | I question on perspective?No, that is NOT what I am referring to. I am not talking about raising children to be confident and assertive. I am talking about how our society encourages destructive and self destructive behavior in women, a schizophrenic combination of; promiscuity, divorce, gold digging, infidelity, victimhood mentality, misandry, lack of accountability etc. For example you read an article about a woman who was married to a hard working and faithful husband, who provides for and takes care of his children, … | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 09:23 AM |
| 2 | I question on perspective?I would say it's not necessarily that all women are like that, but that all women have the potential to be like that, given the right circumstance. There is such a thing as female nature, just as there is such as thing as male nature, and everyone has it purely as a consequence of being a male or female homo sapiens. Everyone their dark side. We're all capable of being selfish, vindictive, destructive, self destructive etc. and I think it would be fair to characterise "civilisation" as a project… | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/09/20 08:57 AM |
| 4 | Gentlemen, I need your advice!Ghost her. Do not engage. If you text back, even if only to tell her to go do one, that's still giving her an in. She'll reply, and then you'll reply, and before you know it it's a conversation. Delete the text. Delete the number. Just ghost man, it's not worth it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 06:12 PM |
| 2 | How to fight off societal pressureThe average year of losing virginity is 16. I bet if you broke that down by gender, you would get one hell of a shock. I'd bet what's happening here is that multiple 16 year old *girls* are losing their virginity to one older guy (yes that's illegal, but they love bad boys) who picks them up, fucks them once, and dumps them never to be seen again. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 01:10 PM |
| 7 | Do you believe in the 80/20 rule?Money isn't everything. If she starts her OnlyFans account when she's 20, she's got 5 good years on the platform then she's done. Even if she was making 6 figures, women as a general rule are terrible with money. She'll have blown it all. So she'll be 26, broke, and oh yeah the internet for forever. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 01:03 PM |
| 2 | RIP Chadwick Boseman! You touched many lives with your role as King T'Challa! Can't imagine what you went through in the past 4 years! #WakandaForeverA brave man, keeping something that quiet all this time. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 01:00 PM |
| 6 | What is Black Pill exactly? Does it mean after you take the red pill you lose hope after things come to light?If "the red pill" is acceptance that society is in a precarious position, the "black pill" is the view that it is not worth saving. MGTOW says "walk away", the black pill says "let it burn". I would say I'm pretty black pill, it's really just an extreme form of cynicism. I don't lack hope for my own future, in fact I'm quite optimistic, but I would say western civilisation is pretty well fucked, and I'm not losing any sleep over that. | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 12:53 PM |
| 15 | Do you believe in the 80/20 rule?I think soon it's going to be 100/0. Women can get non-stop validation via all of their social media. They're getting laws passed to make them get paid more. They're going to college more. If they are even half decent looking they can rake in thousands per month digging themselves out on OnlyFans. When you put all that together, what kind of man could still tickle her hypergamy? He would have to be the God of Chad. The 80/20% rule is a consequence of their pickiness (which is a consequence of th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/08/20 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Provide + Protect = PatriarchyThey're already succeeding. In the US men will pay roughly half again in taxes what they will get out. Women will take out roughly half again what they paid in. The whole system us just a wealth transfer from him to her. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/20 05:52 PM |
| 3 | I read somewhere that women don’t feel attractive unless they are rejecting men.For guys even if you can get real in person dates, it's a bit of a no win situation. Rollo Tomassi said it best (check his stuff out on YouTube) they break rules for alphas and make rules for betas. If I meet a woman via a dating app, sometimes they would want to get into bed with me right away (yeah yeah I know, super Chad), and that has it's upsides but the problem is if they'll do it with you they'll do it too you. They're immediately disqualified from girlfriend material because she's a ho. … | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/20 04:34 PM |
| 11 | Provide + Protect = PatriarchyIt's a truism to say that responsibility must be commensurate with authority. That's why MGTOW is a thing in the first place. The problem is rather than submit to a husband in exchange for protection and provision they can marry the state and extract protection and provision from men via taxation, which is a harder problem to solve. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/20 04:22 PM |
| 2 | I agree with MGTOW ideal, but I want to marry anyways. Can you give some tips?A prenup is not worth the paper it's written on. A judge will just throw it out. Yeah, a written contract will just get torn up and thrown out because the judge sides with the woman. The simple fact is once you get married they have your balls in a vice and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/08/20 10:55 PM |
| 1 | My boyfriend left me. Please enlighten me.What do you mean by commits to a woman. Do you mean exclusivity, or marriage, or cohabitation? All of the above. Is it true that women only want to have sex with a man who commits? if not, does this mean that women have no basis as a prerequisite to having sex? They have different prerequisites for different men. Again to borrow from Tomassi; she breaks rules for alphas and makes rules for betas. A woman will withhold sex until she receives commitment from a beta, because it is not the sex, or t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/20 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy does not care.It's not a comparison. The analogy was to highlight my thought process of simply taking the principle "hypergamy does not care", applying it at all times in all circumstances, and following that to its logical conclusion. If I was going to do a direct comparison I would compare it to alcoholism or similar addiction. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/20 01:33 AM |
| 6 | Hypergamy does not care.That's too general. I'm not trying to rehash Richard Dawkin's "The Selfish Gene". I'm looking specifically at hypergamy, not reproduction as a general concept. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 02:57 PM |
| 0 | MGTOW and WarfightingTo what end though? I would imagine that not being tied down would lend itself to being a more capable officer and leader, but then what are you fighting for? Why fight to defend a society that threw you overboard? | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 02:23 PM |
| 28 | My boyfriend left me. Please enlighten me.of course I don’t want anyone who don’t want me to begin with. Except that was the premise of your post; you were chasing a guy who would not commit. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I've had my heart broken too I know how much it sucks. What I'm saying is be aware of the trap of your own hypergamy, rather than rationalising it away. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 02:14 PM |
| 32 | Mgtow is fine in your teens, 20s and 30s. But what when I enter my 40s/50s/60s/70s?Most people are garbage. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 09:21 AM |
| 114 | My boyfriend left me. Please enlighten me.He knows what happens when a man commits to a woman; they lose interest. This is something even women don't seem to understand about themselves; you want they guy that does not want you. That's why women chase bad boys. That's why you were so into him it was precisely because he was refusing to commit. Your unconscious instinct is to try harder to catch him. But if he did commit to you, then you lose interest. The sex dries up, the fun dries up, you get bored and resentful because you are stuck … | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 09:09 AM |
| 42 | Mgtow is fine in your teens, 20s and 30s. But what when I enter my 40s/50s/60s/70s?That we don't have a woman in our lives that will care for us and cook us meals/anything else? What makes you think they're going to do that if you were married to one? | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/20 08:57 AM |
| 3 | Why should I go MGTOW?Get a piece of paper and a pen. Draw a line down the middle and on one side write numbered reasons not to get married. On the other write numbered reasons to get married, then score out the ones that are not actual reasons. See how it adds up. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 09:08 PM |
| 6 | Need serious adviceFirst of all, less of the self pity. Come on, buck up kiddo. Second, set your sights higher. Look past marriage and children. You've built it up in your mind too much. The choice is not "married with kids" v "dying alone". They are not even mutually exclusive as there are plenty of men here who were married with kids, wife divorced them and cleared them out. If you're going down the MGTOW route then setting side "marriage and kids" is only step 1. The real question is "now what?". The answer is … | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 11:20 AM |
| 5 | Elders! 25 year old man will appreciate adviceIn fact, I can give you a recommendation for a good introduction look up TFM's monkeynomics series on finance and investing. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 09:39 AM |
| 3 | Elders! 25 year old man will appreciate adviceThe Internet is a great resource. I taught myself and I don't have any sort of professional finance background (in fact I'm doing better than guys that I know that do have a professional finance background). You don't need to be some sort of investing guru to make a lot of money, it probably helps if you are not because it's a tortoise v hare type deal; slow and steady wins the day. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Desire for childrenI'm about 80/20 on not having kids. I'm 37, so I'm pretty set in my ways, and much like you I value my time and independence too much. But I've never gotten a vasectomy because some part of me is a bit reluctant to take that final step. If the laws drastically changed, maybe I would consider it, but as it stands it's simply not a risk I'm willing to take. Would I feel differently if I was a woman? Probably. I think most women really strongly want children. Women such as yourself who genuinely ju… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 07:51 AM |
| 3 | Early 20's, should i really never marry?Marriage is a contract. Usually a contract has a clause that imposes a penalty for breaking the contract (otherwise what's the point of a contract). Marriage however has become a contract that imposes a penalty on men for breaking the terms, but awards a bonus to women for breaking the terms. Why would anyone in their right mind sign a contract where the other party is incentivised to screw you over? | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 07:40 AM |
| 11 | Elders! 25 year old man will appreciate adviceInvest. Invest. Invest. You know the expression "time is money"? When it comes to compound interest you have no idea how true that is. Compound interest adds up like magic but the most important ingredient is time. The longer you can put it away for, the more it adds up, and boy does it add up. A man starting at 50 cannot start investing with a 30-40 year horizon, but a guy in his 20s can. It's entirely plausible for a guy who works a modestly paying blue collar job his entire life to retire at … | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/20 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Female validation. Need refill.Even if that approval is the approval an owner gives to their dog? If you still want the approval, then I think this is indictive of a deeper underlying issue. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 08:08 PM |
| 1 | USA: "A penis is a weapon" vs Thailand: "A penis makes a cute pillow."Next time they do a photoshoot of a woman cuddling up to a giant vibrator leave the bunny ears, it makes her look about 10. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 01:57 PM |
| 2 | I need your help brothers to what path to take from here.You're self taught so can you not just take the exams? Or some sort of equivalent? Degrees are less and less valuable these days, especially in IT. You can take exams that give you certifications rather than a degree, employers are likely to look on those just as favourably, maybe more, and the cost would be a few hundred rather than thousands. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Female validation. Need refill.Exactly what validation are you getting from this? Validation as an errand boy? That's less than worthless. | /r/MGTOW2 | 23/08/20 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Wtf does mgtow have to do with misanthropyNever happen. Women already outnumber men but a "gynocentric" society isn't just women, it's women plus most men. Most men would side with women against men because that's their mating strategy. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/20 05:38 PM |
| 7 | Wtf does mgtow have to do with misanthropyWhat's the expression? The opposite of love is indifference? I suppose in that regard mgtow and misanthropy do go hand in hand to an extent, and more so than just a superficial mutual world weariness (although that is definitely there). If you think about it, we are a dead end gentlemen. Some of us may have children from a previous marriage but those of us that don't likely never will. Without children a society has no future. We are the symptom of a dying civilisation. If we really cared enough… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/20 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather a 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom house?I own a 2 bedroom. A 3 bedroom in my area would be about 30% more expensive, for a room I don't need. It's just more to clean. I have one master bedroom and one spare room that doubles as a guestroom/office/general clutter storage. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 03:20 PM |
| 2 | Do you think you'll ever reconsider your MGTOW lifestyle?Society would need to radically change. I don't have anything against women in particular. As humans, both men and women, we can and do have darker impulses. Indeed that's arguably what "western civilisation" is; a project to tame the darker impulses of men. To make us act civilised. But at the same time we have done that we have absolutely encouraged and enabled women to act on their dark side. Anyone can be selfish, destructive, cruel, deceitful, reckless, self destructive, shortsighted etc. b… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 03:17 PM |
| 1 | How many of you are ACTUALLY going your own way?At 37 I've stopped caring. I probably could get a much younger woman pretty easy. I'm tall-ish (about 6"1), good shape, good job, house, car, all the optional extras, but honestly they are just too much work and hassle. I think this is a Rollo Tomassi quote "they break rules for alphas, and make rules for betas". Neither one of those appeals to me. If I'm alpha enough for them to hop into bed with me right away, they're immediately not worth it because if they'll do it with you, they'll do it to… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 03:09 PM |
| 2 | What is MGTOW exactly? I’ve watched a couple YouTube videos and a lot of them just bash women and just disrespect them. How is MGTOW good for you? (Genuinely curious)I think the homophobia is frustrated hypergamy. A lot of gay guys are really successful. I remember reading once that gay men have unusually high average IQ, and looking around maybe there's some truth to that because gay guys seem to be overrepresented in high skill high IQ professions like doctors, judges etc. Their biological drive is to trade sex for resources, and here you have these high resource males that they can't get access to. I think that drives them crazy and makes them resentful. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 02:15 PM |
| 2 | What is MGTOW exactly? I’ve watched a couple YouTube videos and a lot of them just bash women and just disrespect them. How is MGTOW good for you? (Genuinely curious)I think straight men could learn a lot from gay men. You're probably the most "red pilled" simply because when you look at women you aren't thinking with your dick. By default you have a level of clarity most men lack. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/20 01:16 PM |
| 3 | 19m Vasectomy AdviceYou said it yourself, laws may change. They can pass all the laws they like saying sperm donors are 100% confidential and their anonymity is protected by law, and they are completely exempt from any and all parental obligations towards children sired using donated sperm...and then they change the law and put you on child support. At the end of the day what do you get out of donating your sperm? Nothing but a load of potential liabilities. | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/08/20 12:06 PM |
| 3 | MGTOW MONKThere is no "how" you just do it. I don't sit on meditate on it or anything like that. If I'm really restless I'll hit the gym, and because I've got so much energy instead of getting 6 reps at a given weight I'll find myself getting 10, 11 or 12. Instead of working out for 60 minutes I find myself doing non-stop supersets for 2 straight hours, simply because I can. Just do something and do it for as long as your energy holds out, but by retaining your sexual energy you'll be surprised how long y… | /r/MGTOW2 | 18/08/20 08:53 AM |
| 3 | What is MGTOW exactly? I’ve watched a couple YouTube videos and a lot of them just bash women and just disrespect them. How is MGTOW good for you? (Genuinely curious)Sorry I didn't read passed 2% that's a well known bullshit statistic, and don't waste your breath preaching there's no one here interested in listening because you're not original. We've heard it all before. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:44 PM |
| 5 | MGTOW MONKMonk here. Tbh I don't even jerk off any more I find a bit of frustration is a good thing I can direct that energy into other things like exercise. Feel like the terminator. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:20 PM |
| 3 | What is MGTOW exactly? I’ve watched a couple YouTube videos and a lot of them just bash women and just disrespect them. How is MGTOW good for you? (Genuinely curious)YouTube is probably a bit skewed, since they are in the "venting" phase. MGTOW means men going their own way, as in swearing off marriage and cohabitation with a woman. Is it good for you? Not necessarily, but it's about what is avoiding what is bad for you. Mgtow is a strategy for self preservation in clown world. Simply put, women have become dangerous. If you're married to one they can for any reason or none leave you, and leave you broke and homeless as the court will give them everything wi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Not sure if I can ask about exercise here but it is related to masculinity/self improvement so I think it belongs here.Too much cardio can lower testosterone so be just be careful. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 11:33 AM |
| 4 | First Date after 4 YearsBefore I stopped dating entirely I established a rule of not dating over the age of 27-28 (I'm 37, say 34ish at the time) and not because women in their early 30's can't be hot, they can be if they take care of themselves, but because they were damaged goods. If she is 31 and single, she knows she is 31 and single. They know they've wasted their peak years, and they are probably an "alpha widow" pinning after the one that got away...8 years ago. They are an emotional mess and not worth it, even … | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:10 AM |
| 9 | Only fans is a race to the bottom.Who cares? Why would the collapse of a camgirl site cause mgtow to go back? | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 10:02 AM |
| 14 | Hypothetical question: At what point, for you personally, would you think 'I am no longer MGTOW'?I would say the line is when they either can (via the courts) control your life, or you let them control your life. Obviously marriage or cohabitation is a big "fuck no" because that's now grounds to get the courts involved in a dispute. So anything that gives the courts an "in" is an instant disqualifier (and just plain stupid). Generally being pussy whipped is another. You aren't going your own way if she's leading you around on a leash. I'd consider casual, even long term, dating to be fine a… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 09:06 AM |
| 38 | What made you go MGTOW/REDPILL?A combination of things. I've never had an experience like yours or been dragged through the divorce courts. Really I just got tired of them. Dating is a boring mess they all have social media profiles instead of personalities. Even if it ends up going somewhere it's either they hop into bed with you right away, which has it's perks but if they'll do it with you they'll do it to you so they're immediately dropped from being girlfriend material, and the ones that don't are just hard work. They wa… | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/20 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Serious: How does one start from ground zero?Whenever I here that I always picture people with no skills who don't want to do any work complaining that they aren't getting paid enough for doing the job they are lucky to have. Don't end up like those people. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Serious: How does one start from ground zero?I've tried 3 jobs so far, all of them turned out to be exploitative What are you expecting exactly? | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Serious: How does one start from ground zero?But you get my point. Start saving whatever you can as soon as you can because time is the most important ingredient. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Serious: How does one start from ground zero?When it comes to investing the most important factor is time, by a huge margin. Let's run some numbers let's say you put $100 bucks a month away at 10% interest (for the sake of keeping our numbers round) and to keep it simple we'll assume you never increase the monthly contribution. After 20 years this would be worth a bit over $72,000. So what if you did that for 40 years? It would be $144,000, right? Nope, it would actually be more like $560,000. Compound interest adds up like magic, especial… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 05:00 PM |
| 2 | 19m Vasectomy AdviceJust an addendum to that last point don't do sperm donation as apparently they can now come after you for child support. | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/20 01:03 PM |
| 2 | Something interesting from the "behavioral sink" rat utopiaAh right I understand you now. Interesting. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 03:13 PM |
| 6 | Something interesting from the "behavioral sink" rat utopiaThen the female mice just reproduce with the chad mice. Doesn't explain why they stopped reproducing period. I wonder if it was due to inbreeding. If there's only 1 chad mouse impregnating all of the females, then litters are all half brother and sister to each other, and then the female mice mature and hook up with the chad thundermouse born around the same time who, born to a different female, is still their half brother via their father, and after 2-3 generations of this instead of "mighty mo… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 03:03 PM |
| 1 | How do you guys feel about vagina owners identifying as non-binary?There is no such thing. If you think you are non-binary, you aren't non-binary. You're just a gay vegan. | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 02:45 PM |
| 8 | Something interesting from the "behavioral sink" rat utopiaIt's a fascinating experiment but I don't think "the beautiful ones" in the Calhoun experiment are a great stand in for MGTOW because mice are not rational actors. The solitary male mice are not performing any sort of rational calculation their behavior is instinctual. Obviously humans do so I think the similarities are superficial. What's more interesting in this experiment is why did the female mice stop reproducing? The male mice are reacting to that so follow the chain of causality backwards… | /r/MGTOW2 | 14/08/20 12:15 PM |
| 8 | A woman wants an attractive man. A woman also wants the power in a relationship. If you give a woman the power, then you are unattractive to her because you showed weakness. This is the paradox of the modern woman.I think the truth is half way in between. They want the man to take charge, as that is their evolutionary instinct. They also want to be equal, because that is their "girl power" social programming. I think women these days are basically just confused, and suffering from a massive case of cognitive dissonance where they have two contradictory imperatives at the same time, and they take it out on you because they have to externalise the problem making them standoffish and hostile. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/20 09:04 AM |
| 2 | Are women from other countries better.They aren't sociopathic narcissists. Yes AWALT but the "That" in AWALT does not mean they are Hannibal Lecter, but they are different from us. All women have hypergamy, and to borrow a phrase, hypergamy floats. You could go to a poorer country and you with your $5,000 used car are the ultimate chad, because most guys ride a bicycle. You're drowning in pussy. But if you marry one and bring her back to the west, her hypergamy is going to "float" up; it readjusts according to the standard of the en… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/08/20 08:34 AM |
| 4 | Do you need something to believe in?I think some people need it, but I've never counted myself among them. I prefer understanding over mere belief. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/20 06:00 PM |
| 4 | MGTOW and the Death of the WestBut China and the Islamic world are poor relative to the US, Canada and western Europe. My hypothesis is that gynocentricism is inversely correlated with material deprivation. The richer your country becomes, the more feminist it becomes. The harshness of life is the only thing holding it down. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/20 09:20 AM |
| 13 | MGTOW and the Death of the WestHave you ever heard of the Fermi paradox? Basically the question is "where are all the aliens?". If our galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars and life is as it appears to be a natural consequence of chemistry, then our galaxy should be buzzing with the radio signals of other civilisations. But it isn't, so what gives? This is where the concept of "the great filter" comes in. The idea that there is some kind of barrier that, so far with 100% efficiency, puts the brakes on any species becoming … | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/08/20 08:48 AM |
| 77 | A letter to … my wife, who won’t get a job while I work myself to deathYou just know if he so much as even mentioned the word "downsizing" he would be living in his car before finishing the sentence. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 03:37 PM |
| 1 | What does Monk Mode mean, exactly?I'm pretty sure a pornstar MeToo'd her co-star I forget his name. Not exactly the same thing but not totally different either. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 01:24 PM |
| 3 | Where do you look forward to being in your life 10 years from now?I'll be 47, so I expect to be retired by then. I'm going to buy an island in the Scottish highlands (there was one on sale just recently for about $400,000) or perhaps emigrate to Iceland if legally possible and buy land there. Get a luxury lodge built, kick back and relax in my own private Fortress of Solitude. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 01:10 PM |
| 1 | What does Monk Mode mean, exactly?I suppose actual monks are 100% celibate, so I would imagine that's the definition of "monk mode". Personally, I wouldn't even use a pro, because what's to stop them screaming "rape" or #MeToo you? After all, the police would find evidence of sex, and then it's game over. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 12:59 PM |
| 2 | The time I decided to give a single mother of 2 a chance. And I am a woman.Always remember that to a predator, kindness is weakness to be taken advantage of. That's true whether it's a man or a woman. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/20 12:55 PM |
| 0 | What's a realistic amount of money in order to retire and gain complete financial independence, if you have no wife or kids?Take the annual income you would like to have. Multiply it by 10. | /r/MGTOW | 13/01/20 02:40 PM |
| 36 | Reminder: the average American woman is 5'4" / 171lbs which is OBESE. 50% of women in America are heavier than 171lbs! Most guys are gonna have to pay a prostitute if they want to have sex with a ugly-faced 120lbs woman (a weight which is normal and not unrealistic for a 5'4 woman).171lbs...Jesus I'm a pretty muscular 6"1 and I'm only 189. To be 170+ at 5"4 they must look like beach balls. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/20 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Feminist reaction to MGTOW/Red pill conventionIt sounds like one of those old fashioned teakettles. | /r/MGTOW | 10/01/20 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do most women have "Goddess" or "Queen" in their usernames online?Dude I think this is reading to much into it. I mean hell my handle is King_Yautja but I'm neither a king nor a yautja. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 10:22 PM |
| 3 | A question for all MGTOWers:I wouldn't go near the alley at all. I'd calmly walk away and read about it in the papers the next day. I can recall a real event this was about 10 years ago I'm getting a train home and it's pretty late. About half 10 maybe 11pm. Not many people on the train and a couple of young men (I'd guess about 15 years old) were standing over a pretty young woman and it started as a drunk attempt to make a pass at her which quickly descended into something more threatening as she did her best to ignore t… | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 10:19 PM |
| 5 | Just a questionNo. I think on that front we've actually gone too far. Civilisation has worked to tame male aggression; it's no longer socially acceptable to be a barbarian warlord with a harem of virgin slaves. What's happened is we did not stop there we've began to pathologise normal healthy masculinity as "toxic" while apologising, rationalizing and celebrating toxic femininity. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 01:45 PM |
| 1 | What are some advice for a 16 year old ?OK so compound interest is calculating how interest adds up over time. If you have $100 saved and you get 10% interest, now you have $110 right? Simple enough. But the next year when you get 10% interest you get 10% of 110, so now you have $121. Now that does not sound like much but you start to add this up over 40 years and those interest payments start to add up like you would not believe. For example if you put away $100 now until your 60th birthday, at 10% per year interest, on your 60th bir… | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 01:40 PM |
| 3 | What are some advice for a 16 year old ?Start investing your money now. Compound interest adds up like magic and by far the most important variable in the equation is time. At 16 that is one thing you have plenty of. Instead of hitting 40 and then realising you better start saving, you'll hit 40 and have a 25 year head start. | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 01:06 PM |
| 4 | Just a questionI believe women are human, and like all humans we have impulses that are positive, creative, altruistic and noble. We also have impulses that are selfish, irresponsible, destructive and cruel. The whole project that is "civilisation" has been to tame that animal. To reign in our darker impulses. We all have them it's part of the human experience but we don't act on them. The problem is we've allowed the demons to run amok. We have created a system that enables and encourages women to act in a de… | /r/MGTOW | 09/01/20 12:43 PM |
| 6 | Now if only we could have an app that removes their other deceptions...Crazy thing is there's nothing wrong with the image on the right. She actually looks like a mammal. Women do this shit to themselves. | /r/MGTOW | 08/01/20 11:01 PM |
| 9 | The difference betwen feminism and MGTOWThe difference is the more "feminist" a feminist gets, the more unhinged they become. The more hysterical, unreasonable, contradictory or outright impossible their demands become over an ever expanding circle of ever smaller issues. The more mgtow a man becomes, literally the exact opposite happens. | /r/MGTOW | 30/12/19 11:42 AM |
| 7 | I think women themselves behave like sex objectThis is just hypergamy. They absolutely want to be objectified...by top tier men. But at the same time they don't want all the other men to even be able to look at them. They just want to have their cake and eat it as usual. | /r/MGTOW | 29/12/19 04:23 PM |
| 3 | Investing moneyNot so much advice just a good rule to keep in mind; the rule of 72. Take your interest rate, divide that number into the number 72, and that gives you the doubling time of your money. So if you put £10,000 away at 10% interest per year it would have doubled to £20,000 in 7.2 years. Look at things like index funds and ETFs that have a basket of stocks to spread the risk. 10% return per year should always be your goal. | /r/MGTOW | 27/12/19 12:40 PM |
| 20 | It’s one thing to date a slob, but to be in a polyamorous relationship with a slob is beta af. Please have some self-respect men.The thing is as well except for the guy at the bottom left who looks like Splinter from TMNT, none of these guys are hideously ugly. They just need a shower, a haircut and a better shirt. Being "beta" is something you do to yourself. | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/19 04:50 PM |
| 7 | It’s one thing to date a slob, but to be in a polyamorous relationship with a slob is beta af. Please have some self-respect men.Cancer squared. | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/19 04:47 PM |
| 20 | Men of r/MGTOW, do you genuinely believe there are no good enough women for us, or you have simply given up trying to find “her”?I don't really think women are the problem. Not really. Most people are never all good or all bad 99.9% of us are a mixed bag of positive and negative traits. The way I see it we live in a system that has actively encouraged and enabled (and when acted on; enforced) a woman's worst impulses. You can't honestly say in your entire life you've never had the impulse to hurt someone. Like really fuck them up. Even someone you love. Some really dark corner of your brain just wanted to strangle them. D… | /r/MGTOW | 26/12/19 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Asking your opinion?You're not wrong. At least, you're not wrong in any rational/objective/moral sense. For women, and in today's society which is basically just a synonym for "women", what is "wrong" is whatever hurts their feelings. Next time a group of girls corner you just walk away (keep your head high though). If the principal reels you in by your collar, just sit there and nod and let it go in one ear and out the other. The real asshole here is your "friend". I basically chalk this one up to your age and ine… | /r/MGTOW | 24/12/19 06:39 PM |
| 3 | Good man laundry listIn short, a dependable plough horse, with the personality of a plough horse. | /r/MGTOW | 18/12/19 04:57 PM |
| 21 | major factsFemale happiness is like Schrödinger's cat. What do they want? Everything they don't have. As soon as they get it, they don't want it any more. So their happiness exists in an entirely theoretical superposition that can never be observed. | /r/MGTOW | 18/12/19 10:04 AM |
| 25 | This is what it will cost YOU for a woman to pretend to be a princess for a day. GYOWI was looking at a luxury African safari (once in a lifetime type holiday) and it would be about $20,000 for 14 nights. That's HALF of the above if you total it (thanks to the other user for doing the arithmetic) and that's for 1 day. | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/19 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Avoid these women at all costs - go your own way!This seems to be a trend with modern women they aren't just surrounding themselves with cats crying into their 4th large glass of cheap wine in a vain attempt to fill the hole left by the children they never had; they are outright fucking loopy, and it's a particular kind of loopy they have a weird fascination with doing unhygienic things with bodily fluids like semen and period blood. The fact that it's not just bizarre but bizarre in a particular direction...just kinda peaks my morbid curiosit… | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/19 04:00 PM |
| 8 | Interesting blue pilled knowledge. What do you see?The harsh core truth of the red pill; women are biologically incapable of loyalty. They always seek the best deal and whatever you have done for them in the past counts for nothing. You are not building up a lot of goodwill you are just throwing your money in a furnace. Loyalty is a masculine concept. In our evolution men developed loyalty because if you have to hunt some prehistoric 700lb saberfuck that man beside you might just save your life. A woman's evolutionary impetus is always look out … | /r/MGTOW | 10/12/19 02:26 PM |
| 4 | I love how out of all the issues stopping men from dating there is an international conversation about banning porn nowI'd defend it in the sense that if adults want to watch it (or make it) that's their business but it's definitely not good for you. I'd put porn in the same category as smoking or frequent heavy drinking; you can do it, but for your own wellbeing you really shouldn't. | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/19 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Growing old while MGTOWThat's what friends are for. | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/19 05:09 PM |
| 14 | I love how out of all the issues stopping men from dating there is an international conversation about banning porn nowThey'll never ban porn. They need men anestisied and passive. | /r/MGTOW | 09/12/19 05:06 PM |
| 14 | Is Greta Thunberg a Down syndrome girl?They say she has Asperger's but that's just to deflect that she looks like her mother drank while pregnant. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 05:51 PM |
| 7 | Officially on my wayI'm 35 trust me it's not any better at my age. The upside is that at 35 upstairs brain does more thinking than downstairs brain. Obviously a "I can take it or leave it" attitude towards sex is a bonus but the real advantage is just the lack of distraction. You feel more focused, more clarity of thought, and more motivated to direct that energy towards something productive. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 04:34 PM |
| 9 | I'm a piece of shit because I didn't want to pay $2,000 for her cat’s surgery.How much of a pretzel do you have to twist your brain into in order to consider asking someone to give away 2 grand an "opportunity" for them? | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 04:13 PM |
| 21 | Thank you allThe most valuable asset any man has is time, and at 15 that's one thing you have plenty of. Start making that compound interest work for you. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 04:11 PM |
| 2 | Lol.... “my husband was as close to perfect”... I smell divorce rape brewingI'll defend her a bit here he sounds like an unhygienic slob. Still dumb of her to marry him though. | /r/MGTOW | 06/12/19 01:28 PM |
| 6 | At Thanksgiving my sister kept trying to convince me that I actually DID want a family.The female hive brain at work. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/19 03:09 PM |
| 3 | Women are EVIL by natureNot evil, but amoral. It is their nature to seek the advantage to themselves in every situation. The cost/benefit to others is simply not part of the calculation. | /r/MGTOW | 04/12/19 03:07 PM |
| 7 | Finally someone told the truth.Just another chameleon telling men what they want to hear. | /r/MGTOW | 03/12/19 09:13 AM |
| 12 | Woman replaced by sexbotJust think once those things are advanced enough that they walk and talk (like Joi from Blade Runner 2049). The minute I see one demo'd at a TED Talk I'm investing heavily in the cat food market. | /r/MGTOW | 02/12/19 06:13 PM |
| 2 | "Where have all the good men gone?"Do the math that's ~2 per month, every month, none stop if you assume she started at 16. She must spread her legs for every man who asks "do you want fries with that?" | /r/MGTOW | 01/12/19 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Brave female queen leads 80,000 of her faithful subjects to the slaughter, while only killing 500 of the enemyNotice the Wikipedia article states "An estimated 70,000–80,000 Romans and British were then killed", as if it was a roughly even mix of both. | /r/MGTOW | 01/12/19 05:17 PM |
| 22 | What MGTOW means to meHe'll change his tune when the inevitable false rape accusation comes his way. I think we can assume he is a tall, confident alpha type well sooner or later a conquest is going to get bitter than she was pumped and dumped and he won't commit. This is the flip side of being the alpha who fucks all the women you can only roll that dice so many times before you come up snake eyes. | /r/MGTOW | 30/11/19 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Misandry and Delusional Thinking all at the same time. These are probably the same idiots who say "Vaginas don't loosen from taking a thousand dicks, that's not how vaginas work, sweaty, looks like somebody needs to learn some science."If it's so sharp it can be used as a deadly weapon does that mean they'll start fighting their own battles instead of looking for the nearest white knight? | /r/MGTOW | 30/11/19 12:40 PM |
| 7 | Hi. I am totally wrecked after the break-up which I do not understand.It was not your fault. That's all there is to it this was not your fault. Here's what really happened. She brought a female friend on the vacation, not out of altruism, but so she could have a "girls night" i.e. go out, get wasted, hook up with Chad and Tyrone. If she was not already cheating on you, she was going to. She's probably got a few numbers and is looking to monkey branch to the next guy so she cuts you loose. Not because you did anything wrong but because as the saying goes and others… | /r/MGTOW | 30/11/19 12:04 PM |
| 3 | What do you think would happen if productive/powerful men all went on strike?I think the government would declare them a terrorist organisation and go after them guns blazing. | /r/MGTOW | 29/11/19 03:06 PM |
| 14 | Please slap some sense back into me brothersThe hormones the male body produces when you become interested in a girl reduce rational thinking and induce simping behaviour. You already consciously acknowledge that you are doing it so that's the first step to getting it under control. Just keep in mind that you basically drunk. | /r/MGTOW | 25/11/19 08:00 AM |
| 6 | Women are far nastier than men! Link in the comments.Raises the question though; why? Why are they like this and how can they live like this? Surely there is just a standard of cleanliness that you adhere to 1. because you are a modern human and not an animal and 2. just for your own comfort? You hear about people suffering from schizophrenia and things like that that end up living in really unsanitary conditions but that's because they are suffering from a disorder. But it must be something similar (i.e.neurological) that explains how they can be… | /r/MGTOW | 24/11/19 05:35 PM |
| 1 | "Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god.""Whosoever is delighted in solitude is either a wild beast or a god." I like to think I'm a bit of both. | /r/MGTOW | 21/11/19 11:08 AM |
| 5 | What's the weirdest response a blue pill has ever had to your lifestyle?For me the bizarre thing was that about 10 seconds earlier he agreed that once the statistic crossed a certain threshold, he himself would go mgtow for that reason, and then in the next said he would ignore it. He is stating that he intends to follow two mutually exclusive courses of action. I think this goes to show the power of the indoctrination, societal pressure, whatever you want to call it, that a man can hold two contradictory ideas at the same time and accept both. | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 01:40 PM |
| 15 | What's the weirdest response a blue pill has ever had to your lifestyle?I tried walking a terminally blue pilled friend (he isn't married himself) through the logic once. I said to him if the divorce rate was 0% then marriage is perfectly safe, and if it was 100% then there's no point. That's like playing Russian roulette with 6 bullets. He agreed. So I ask him would he get married if the divorce rate was 10%? He said yes. I asked him what about 20%? He said yes. So I went on in 10% increments until we got to 70% I think and he said "no". I said then if the divorce … | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 10:32 AM |
| 5 | how do "low quality" men get past loneliness if they go MGTOW?The whole point of MGTOW is to take that out of the equation. The point isn't to rub women's noses in it by saying "we know you want us but too bad you can't have us". The point is to stop caring entirely. You are saying you need validation to go MGTOW. That's like an atheist that believes in God it's a contradiction in terms. | /r/MGTOW | 17/11/19 10:19 AM |
| 3 | The Wall is hitting soonerYou'll have to define "neo-reactionary" and "moldbug" I'm afraid. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 11:24 PM |
| 3 | The Wall is hitting soonerIt's not evolution in the sense that it's variation in allele frequency. It's epigenetiic. Environmental factors can influence hormones such as testosterone etc. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 09:57 PM |
| 2 | The Wall is hitting soonerBecause we have contraception and abortion. Those are artificial. Abortion is, in a roundabout way, an r type phenomenon because r type is low investment in parenting. Well you can't get much lower than that. So what you tend to find in modern societies with contraception is that it's the K types that have more children. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 09:36 PM |
| 1 | will DNA test prove if my brother is a 100% or a 50% brother?You won't be able to but such a test would be possible. | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 03:34 PM |
| 12 | The Wall is hitting soonerIt's actually hard to get good material on this. The left obviously hates it because any hint of genetic determinism is anathema to them, and the right tends to avoid it in case they get accused of stoking ideas of racial supremacy (and the far right misinterprets the science to justify exactly that). I can think of a couple of good intros although they are both from a semi political point of view so take it with a pinch of salt the first is Anonymous Conservative who wrote a book on this, he mi… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 03:31 PM |
| 4 | A question to all you MGTOW brothersI'll talk to them like normal people in the office. If you asked them about me you'd probably get something generic like "him? Nice guy, don't know much about him though", and I'll hold a door after I walk through it, but then I'd do that for a man as well I wouldn't let a heavy door slam shut in someone's face. Outside of work I don't bother trying to interact with them. I don't pump and dump any more at nearly 36 my sex drive is something I can semi consciously control (I'll just workout or so… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 02:56 PM |
| 28 | The Wall is hitting soonerThere's probably a scientific explanation for this which is that we are becoming more r selected. There are too basic reproductive strategies; K and r. The K type is the conservative strategy which is mate guarding, have few offspring, but invest heavily in them, and have long life spans. We see this in humans, whales, top predators like wolves etc it's a response to resource scarcity (prioritize quality over quantity). The opposite is r which is live fast, die young, so just bang everything. It… | /r/MGTOW | 15/11/19 02:49 PM |
| 5 | MGTOW of western Europe - how do you deal with the ræpefugee influx?There's some dark little part of me that's smirking on the inside. Female sentiment created this crisis, now they are the victims of it. An outcome that was 100% predictable. Fuck'em. | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/19 03:58 PM |
| 2 | Fall of Western Civilisation- an invitation for discussionNot a way the west would be willing to follow. Fundamentally this comes down to IQ. I'll illustrate my point using height so you'll see what I'm getting at. The average woman is 65 inches tall (5 foot 5) and the average man is 69 inches (5 foot 9). So there's only an average difference of 6% which does not sound like much. But if I said to you find me 1000 people of either gender who are 6 foot 3 or taller, 100% of them would be men. The female bell curve drops to near zero long before reaching … | /r/MGTOW | 14/11/19 10:19 AM |
| 3 | Fall of Western Civilisation- an invitation for discussionLooking very long term I predict that in 200 years time we will be less technologically advanced than we are today. I think a 23rd century westerner will look at a smart phone or a 747 airliner the same way an 8th century Italian would look at the Roman Colosseum. They'll stare in disbelief at how such feats were ever possible. Had we maintained the momentum of the 19th century then today we would have sub-orbital flights and be looking at sending humans to the outer planets of our solar system.… | /r/MGTOW | 13/11/19 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Being a fat guy is the worstI'm about 6 foot and I managed to slim down from 213lbs to about 185lbs (97kg to 84kg) in under 5 months. I managed it by just not eating crap. I get ONE bad thing per week (like a doughnut or something) and try to be strict the rest of the time, and the weight just fell off me. Aiming for a lean and athletic 175lbs which I'm hoping to hit by Christmas. I'm 13 years older than you if I can do it so can you. | /r/MGTOW | 12/11/19 04:29 PM |
| 2 | Those without friendsThe best way to look at it is what you DON'T have to do. I increasingly don't have the patience for people they are either terminally blue pilled, painfully unintelligent or just generally pig ignorant and fascinated with meaningless nonsense. I can do whatever I want and not have to deal with the stress of other people. | /r/MGTOW | 11/11/19 04:34 PM |
| 5 | "You'll never have sex again if you're a part of MGTOW" Yeah, mainly because I'm avoiding females like this.Probably just sidestepped a morning after rape accusation. Well played. | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/19 10:40 PM |
| 35 | Brutal redpillThe one thing I would disagree with there is that the pendulum swings a lot earlier than 40 or 50. At 35 myself (and I'm like a strong 6 I'm hardly Brad Pitt) I don't even sport fuck women over 30 they are just a mess of emotional damage and unrealistic expectations. | /r/MGTOW | 09/11/19 10:34 PM |
| 2 | Where are our detractors getting this whole “alt right” b.s?"Alt-right" is really just a euphemism for "Nazi" it's just a slur to use against an opponent when they run out of actual arguments. It doesn't even make sense as the alt-right tend to be pro the traditional family model (gotta get those white babies after all). | /r/MGTOW | 16/10/19 03:42 PM |
| 21 | That's because Predator is an awesome movie!Instead of mud they'll cover themselves in period blood. | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/19 08:17 PM |
| 2 | That's because Predator is an awesome movie!I meant "Predators" the species not the movie. Wasn't a fan of any of them after the first 2. | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/19 08:12 PM |
| 4 | That's because Predator is an awesome movie!This is also true of Predators. | /r/MGTOW | 09/02/19 05:59 PM |
| 59 | Sleeping with the enemy of your people: Nazi occupied France and how French women slept and corroborated with the Nazis. Can r/mgtow explain this behavior in women's lack of loyalty?You nailed it in one; it's hypergamy. Women have an ambivalent attitude towards a conquering army. If the invading army wins, well then they must have been stronger or had more resources than the men of her tribe/country. To use modern parlance, they were more "alpha". Which means by shacking up with she's getting a better deal. There is a dark sort of logic to it. Loyalty is a masculine concept. A lot of men would turn down a better offer if it entailed betrayal or came at the expense of honour… | /r/MGTOW | 08/02/19 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Enjoying the fall of Western Civilization?I definitely believe nature is a self correcting system. I view the current proliferation of weak men and loose women as something akin to an algae bloom. They need culling. Sooner or later mother nature is going to come in swinging the scythe | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/18 10:32 PM |
| 3 | Enjoying the fall of Western Civilization?No tears shed here. People often talk about "saving western civilisation" but that's not exactly accurate. In terms of what is actually occurring in physical reality (not some idealised conceptual world), a civilisation is it's people, and a people are the civilisation. You cannot separate one from the other any more than you can separate my mind from my brain. A "civilisation" is simply the sum of it's people, and looking around me today all I can say is....fuck these people. They made their be… | /r/MGTOW | 10/11/18 04:33 PM |
| 6 | (Question) What do you think about eastern ways of relationships?Inside every eastern woman, is a western woman just waiting to get out. Don't kid yourself that they are any different. | /r/MGTOW | 21/10/18 12:04 PM |
| 2 | I'm tired of these #MeToo allegationsIt's a funny kind of optimism to hope for the destruction of western law but then it's a funny world we live in. I'm sure most of us are are familiar with the YouTuber TFM he says it will end when men end it. I would expand on that by saying men will end it once they've been pushed too far. As bad as things are we're not there yet. I think it's in our nature to endure, and I don't mean we are beasts of burden what I'm saying is that we are natural stoicists. If men fight back It's usually not fo… | /r/MGTOW | 28/09/18 08:38 AM |
| 10 | I'm tired of these #MeToo allegationsIf there's a silver lining to this cloud, it's this; #MeToo cannot last. There are no brakes on this train and #MeToo has gone from accusing men for personal gain, *to accusing men in order to fuck with the appointment of Supreme Court judge*. This is now being used as a weapon to influence the political direction of the country, and it's working! Kavanagh is done there is zero chance of him being appointed now. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is impeached over a false allegation. What we are s… | /r/MGTOW | 27/09/18 08:49 PM |
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