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You are conflating antisocial personality disorder and antisocial behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:09 PM
1

No that's why I said it's not enough to get that kind of diagnosis. But they are still antisocial behaviors. According to you not sharing would not be classified as antisocial behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:58 PM
0

They are antisocial but not enough to get a diagnosis of antisocial behavior disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:41 PM
1

The issue is the second one is not about the individual doing the action but how others are going to interpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:40 PM
0

So shyness and not wanting to talk to people is in fact antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:28 PM
1

Being shy and not wanting to talk are antisocial behaviors. Maybe what you're trying to say is that many men have undiagnosed antisocial personality disorder. Which is a collective of antisocial traits that directly cause them some kind of harm in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:22 PM
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Sorry to inform you but those are antisocial behaviors. You don't get to redefine a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:12 PM
0

And what morals are those? That lying is bad. The horror. Edit: see nothing to say. They never have anything to attack the argument with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:38 PM
0

It definitely is out of the ordinary. What is not is men saying the want to be desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:14 PM
4

You are making assumptions with no data to back it up. And letting your bais dictate the view.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:59 PM
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"I would argue about your morals, but doesn't matter" You mean my assumed morals. Which is consistent here. Never said it wasn't possible just very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:56 PM
5

All about individual men. Not as a group. "You’re asking how engaging in domineering, competitive, and self-serving behaviors/mindsets within community or interpersonal relations with others is antisocial?" How are they on their surface antisocial? An extreme presentation of them at times doesn't make them antisocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:51 PM
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What if a man promised relationship? I don't think this is happening. Most of the time the woman assumes that a relationship is coming. But if they do in fact promise a relationship ok. What if a man pretended that he liked her when he didn't? Not happening. What if a man didn't do anything for her in sex and he is the only one who got the pleasure? Doesn't matter she still agreed to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:48 PM
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Basically I’m saying that higher androgen exposure may bias some people toward dominance, competition, and self-servingness, which can sometimes reduce mutual consideration, empathy, and cooperation. How are those antisocial? Those are all vague. Your examples are of individuals not men as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:33 PM
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You didn't though. Treating people poorly or in an antisocial way is vague. So what traits are you actually talking about. Like are you talking about men share less or do less for others. Or are you simply talking about not engaging with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:22 PM
1

So individuals speak for the entire group?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:17 PM
3

Can you not be vague about what you mean by antisocial traits? By what you describe I see way more women act like that then I have men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:09 PM
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That's the just world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:18 PM
1

But that's a different argument. If you're saying there are plenty of men out there you can't get any woman of their standards. That's one argument. Saying men have unrealistic expectations because they struggle in dating. Is another. Which one would you like to debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:17 PM
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And if you look at the data they put all of it together to make their numbers. Maybe you should read studies before you post them. So do you have any actual studies that prove this to be the thing in the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:12 PM
1

And that is independent of how realistic they are or not. This is a circle and a square type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:12 PM
-1

The market has already decided that both people are a 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:10 PM
0

So your survey was taken in a bunch of countries that are very conservative or traditional. You have any evidence to back up your claims in the West?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:07 PM
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Realistic would mean they are available. Is really just seems like you're shifting the blame from remember women who have very high standards to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:04 PM
-1

The market of women disagreed because that person is a four. That is the market value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:59 AM
3

Expectations and ability to get them are independent of one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:58 AM
-1

I don't hear men as a group saying that. There are Christian men who are saying that. What you're engaging in is ultimately the Apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:57 AM
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Not getting what you want is independent of the the level of realistic something is. By your definition if I'm a four looking to get into a relationship with a four but I can't I have unrealistic expectations. And if that's the case everything falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:56 AM
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Good thing no one's actually saying that. This is the straw man I was talking about. It's not unreasonable to want someone who's your looks match to want to date you and Court you in that relationship. To want to build a family with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:54 AM
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Not all men. But you have to remember you can't make monogamy a condition of your relationship then remove intimacy. You do that you're asking to be cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:50 AM
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I would not on purpose but if they are triggered because of the normal way I act that is on her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:43 AM
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This is a stawman. Men have realistic expectations. Women don't like it because it requires them to get off the pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:39 AM
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Yes people use the wrong definitions for words all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:06 PM
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Never said that he was red pill. But he would technically be part of the manosphere. All that term is a loose connection of content for men that advocates for improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 12:40 AM
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I'm sorry that you're wrong but you are. What you're describing is the opposition's definition of the manosphere to paint it in a negative light. They have done that pretty well. That's why I basically no one says yeah I'm part of the manosphere. This would essentially be me defining feminism strictly by using turfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:24 PM
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Wikipedia is not an accurate source of information. You realize that anybody can change that information at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:17 PM
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The menosphere is just a loose collection of content for men with the intention of helping them improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:11 PM
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Dr k would be part of the manoshere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:09 PM
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That would be sexist not a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 06:43 PM
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No they won't. They will use it as validation of their version. The right thing to do is to ask for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:56 PM
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I have literally been called a simp for being nice to my female coworkers on this sub. That is not being a simp. I for one want a person to write a dissertation. Then I have the correct information needed to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:43 PM
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Op has to provide that information. It's not dodging the prompt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:32 PM
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I will grant it is perpetuated by both. You can't solo put it on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:27 PM
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Everyone has a different definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:21 PM
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Not really. Women go crazy when men turn them down for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:17 PM
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I agree with the basic idea but I feel like this definition is way too broad. I could get behind with what Op saying with a tighter definition. Like say if I bought a woman friend the birthday gift but they've never given me birthday gifts does that make me a simp?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:59 PM
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So men DO get away with stuff too. No. That is how the office of president works. It also puts a pause on the timer. He was liable for rape and still won 2024. He was civilly convicted of an incident that happened three decades later. Carol should have come forward at the time. The failure to convict him is on her. All you are doing here is proving women are not held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:53 PM
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Brushing up the criticism of men to pretend women dont get criticized. I literally criticized a woman in my comment. Any crimes he may have committed in the files can't be brought now. Let's see what happens after midterms. He has to be out of office first.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:28 PM
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Thanks for admitting your list was bs. On Trump, criminally but that is on her for not coming forward back then. Civilly she won her case. So he was held accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:16 PM
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Can you describe the behaviors of a simp? Without that we can't have this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:58 PM
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Those are the only two that didn't get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:50 PM
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They do it all the time. Biggest example is Rolo getting shit for his tweet about vasectomies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 11:46 AM
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You want the government to create programs that convince women to date men they currently don't want to date. Nope. I would have said that if I did. Have you not heard of social movements? You want to shame people when you think they are dating people they shouldn't date. Nope. But you should call out people for going against their own goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 04:08 PM
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Never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:56 PM
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If you ask them in good faith. Not adding things i did not say. No posing the well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:51 PM
-9

If I told you my goal was to run a marathon and all I did was sit on the couch eating, you would say my actions are in line with my goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:44 PM
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No one is asking for that. The solution is to promote long term monogamous relationships and the promote/show case the things that actually needed for a good relationship instead of what is being promoted now(materialism). Call out people that have preferences that actively go against their stated goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:16 PM
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Nice poisoning of the well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 02:46 PM
0

So then I could say that all the women on dating apps are gold diggers then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 10:01 AM
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It would be type 4
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:41 PM
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Maybe do research then, instead of attacking the sub based on a topic you don't know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:44 PM
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What is that? There are many forms of it. Some are worse than circumcision, some are just as bad, and some are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:21 PM
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That is not the question. It is not a fundamental element of being a competent parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 06:13 PM
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At least here in US. Male genital mutilation is legal and female is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:30 PM
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The issue is the difference in legality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:34 PM
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I guess it's good that the layperson has no understanding of the issue whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:33 PM
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Not knowing the teacher's name doesn't make you incompetent or say the fact that you don't care about your child. Is an arbitrary thing set up by women to refuse men their rights to be a father. Notice how you didn't go to the child's medical problems, they're friends, their likes are dislikes, I how much time they spend with a child, do they teach or mentor the child. The list of things that actually tell you whether or not someone is a good parent or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 11:04 AM
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I'm not sure where you're from but that doesn't happen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:31 AM
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Knowing a teacher's name is not fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:31 AM
0

That doesn't proven incompetence. It proves that you've made an arbitrary standard to which people must apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:03 AM
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Cool so you know a piece of shit. And because of that one guy all men don't deserve parental rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:52 AM
0

And no one saying that the courts couldn't make that decision after being presented evidence. The presumption needs to start with 50/50 and move from there. It doesn't in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:52 AM
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You've proven that you don't actually know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:39 AM
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You should know what evidentiary standards are if you are a lawyer because I never brought them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:38 AM
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There is actually not less chance that women will get custody if they fight for it. Most of the time don't have to fight for it cuz it's defaulted to them. Did you know that if a woman leaves and takes the child with her the dad fights for custody in the divorce he'll be told that he can't get 50/50 custody because the child isn't used to that because the mother took the child with her. So now he has to spend years having weekend only visits which they will then use to be like well now the child…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:06 AM
0

So they had to fight for custody sounds like a raw deal. They should get it by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:55 AM
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You can ask the court for whatever you want that doesn't mean you're getting it. To get it you need to fight for it which is a custody battle. That's going to cost tens of thousands of dollars. The steps you're talking about is mediation before that and usually that is split between the couple and that's usually a couple thousand dollars a piece. Also shared custody doesn't mean 50/50 it just means you get some time. You're also forgetting about how courts will use the fact that a father hasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:42 AM
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The only issue with having to prove someone is abusive is children get killed. So fathers should have no rights because some parents are pieces of shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:58 AM
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You want to shoe horn in oppression so then you can diminish the issues of men. It has nothing but oppression that's all in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:46 AM
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I am a feminist. And I worked with other feminists. I use the best examples I have about feminist fighting for men's rights. Which I have done. No you haven't teaching someone isn't fighting for their rights. I'm not going to bother explaining why mandatory 50/50 is harmful to both parents and kids of all genders. Because you obviously have no interest in reading what I already wrote and projected a bunch of bullshit on top of it. I actually know the system and no this line of questioning is BS …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:34 AM
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Only 4% of fathers ask for custody and of those 4% 90% get the custody they are seeking That is a lie. They get some form of custody but not the custody they ask for. The issue is men never ask for custody of their own children No the issue is they shouldn't have to and the fact that you think it's their fault for not spending tens of thousands of dollars in a process that's most likely going to end up them losing AKA not getting 50/50 instead of just having 50/50 is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:33 AM
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Being against the fault 50/50 is the issue. Shared custody means anytime that a parent has the child that isn't the primary parent it's shared custody. They are actively fighting against men's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:08 AM
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They are against default 50/50. Which, everyone should be. If someone is abusive then 50/50 is not a good set up. I know it might sound crazy but that helps men. Men need that to be able to get full custody even when a mother is clearly abusive Everyone should want default 50/50. Because then it requires a parent to actually prove someone is abusive instead of just saying it. What you're doing is saying men need to pay tens of thousands of dollars to get the same access to their children that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:06 AM
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That says nothing about oppression. It says women See this as a zero sum game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:58 PM
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They are against 50/50 custody and are one of the biggest feminist organizations. I am tired of the lie that feminist are fighting for men's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:54 PM
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National organization for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:43 PM
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It is a question. There is no need to bring up oppression then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:40 PM
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So an issue is only an issue if there is oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:35 PM
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Is that way NOW is against 50/50 custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:32 PM
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The subject doesn't matter. It is the process they fail to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:08 PM
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Mass dms on social media. Sometimes if a woman is a client of a management team they will book them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:07 PM
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I told you in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:57 PM
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Proof? Not at all how they recruit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:55 PM
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Where did I say they were terrible? They have lots of opinions but haven't done the work to figure out why or if they contradict other opinions they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:54 PM
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That's a very specific number to pull out of absolutely nowhere You made a very specific claim with no proof. Do you not know how media works? I do. And I know how these shows recruit. You going to back up your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:31 PM
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The women u see on the shows are 85% of women. But do you have proof they target these specific women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:06 PM
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Yes. My views come directly from interaction with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:49 PM
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Do you have proof of this? But that doesn't stop me from meeting plenty of women that are exactly like the ones on the shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:46 PM
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Not a personal attack. Op is projecting the feelings of others unto a person who says hey I am just looking for a chance and my standards are low. Their whole post is that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 12:23 PM
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Men that are serious aren't going to wait around that long either. We want a relationship and all that comes with it. Not an endless courting session when we get nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:55 AM
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That is the actual definition of the term that I put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:05 PM
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You have to define responsive desire to get a real response. Responsive desire is a form of sexual interest that emerges in response to sexual stimulation or context, rather than spontaneously. If you are then yes, but it would not exclude things like hooking up or just seeing a hot man. It just means that throughout the day they don't just get randomly horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:16 PM
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So women don't have the ability but also do because they know those men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:09 PM
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You are literally saying socially in a better bed right here. Instead of saying hey this guy's a little socially inept so things might go slightly differently going he's probably going to be a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:38 AM
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I am not saying that. Women tell men that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:45 AM
1

You clearly don't understand what's actually being discussed. When you judge any person for me mile away you've done none of the things to vet you've just at best seen them once.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:34 AM
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Did you just hire this actor by literally just seeing him once or having a three-word conversation with him? If not that is not analogous to what's being talked about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:57 PM
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Then why bring them up in a conversation about a statement where women can stop bad men from a mile away?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:55 PM
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But she's not talking about the statement at all that I'm talking about really that's why I'm like she changed it. The idea that women can spot a bad personality / bad man from a mile away entails they have very little to no contact so like we have a couple exchanges here and you immediately go all your complete piece of shit. What you took it at is actually getting to know someone. That takes place down the road past what is being described in that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:40 PM
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And do you call out the women who say this then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:46 PM
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What I'm saying is she's already determined they have a chip on their shoulder and are bad men. The evidence for it is social ineptness which has nothing to do with whether or not someone's a good person or not. So her metric is bad and it's filtered through her perception. To know if a person has a chip on their shoulder one has to engage them in good faith. And as we're talking about spotting a person with a bad personality or a bad person from a distance away AKA they are not actively involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:45 PM
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It's the thing she did it's right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:43 PM
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And those poor social skills equal bad man. She also equated assholes and socially adept men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:33 PM
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She has changed the point completely. She has to claim the social inept men are bad men. She didn't refute the statement at all. My statement is not a perception but the actual argument women are making.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:15 PM
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You have just given me a post hoc rationalization based entirely on your perception and not fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:56 PM
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Nope that's not what they're saying. It's that they can spot negative personalities from a mile away. Starting an accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:52 PM
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The problem is women tell men they can spot negative personalities from a mile away. You can't have that ability and expect us to feel bad when you choose bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:29 PM
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You are using it wrong. Friend zone is when you pretend to be a person's friend / there's an possibility down the road that something romantic could happen if they showed you how great of a partner they'd be. You'd use this to extract free things or help from them but never return those types of things to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:27 PM
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when I chose STEM and had to survive in a man-dominated environment where toxic masculanity sometimes runs rampant. Here. Can you described in detail what specific acts of toxic masculinity you ran in to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:45 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:06 PM
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If you use the real definition of friend zone I would agree. But not with your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:06 PM
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No where was my claim limited to reddit. So you concede the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:40 PM
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I shouldn't listen to women when they talk about what they want.?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:39 PM
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https://medium.com/the-straight-shot/men-shouldnt-be-on-the-dating-scene-if-they-can-t-wash-their-a-7e6676b856bd
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:28 PM
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That is the exact advice given to men that can't get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:18 PM
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Yes you have to use the correct definition of words. At best you have the person who asked if you're pretty is a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:45 AM
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For it to be victim blaming you must be the victim of something. The only thing you could possibly be a victim of in your example is not getting the attention from men you want. So if you do actually be a victim you have to be entitled to those things for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:20 AM
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So she's entitled to men not being lazy and being interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:11 AM
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How is this victim blaming? A man being lazy or uninterested doesn't make you a victim. The fact that you think it makes you a victim shows your entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 11:05 AM
1

Thank you for proving the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:52 AM
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It's a mix of states. Anyways that's getting off the point here. Women fighting for those men to have rights are being called pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:41 PM
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Right now in 30 States if you are not married and you have a child as the father you have no rights to the child whatsoever. No visitation, no say in the raising of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 11:03 PM
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You literally just restated what I said. Pick me is a bad example because it's not based upon any actual thing but what you individually don't like. A woman advocating for father's rights is called a pick me. Why because women don't like that she's advocating for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:39 PM
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I'm sorry but telling a man that he can't get a date because he obviously is a misogynist when you don't even know him is blaming him. Saying hey when you can't get dates cuz other men are creepy is blaming him for the actions of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:11 PM
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You must not spend a lot of time here. It is not the unfairness being complained about. It is the fact men are blamed both individually and collectively for being hit with unfairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:31 PM
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What you are failing to grasp is that their autistic traits didn’t really stand out to me at all as anything abnormal or noteworthy because I shared most of those traits myself. I am autistic and I notice autistic traits in others. They don't have to stand out to be noticed. This is like people saying they dated a narcissist but can't tell you about their behavior at an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:36 PM
0

If you want me to recall specific examples, Yes to prove your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 06:24 PM
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Social inept is not a trait but a conclusion.so what were the actual traits that they had. You did the same thing for all but special interest. It comes off as a person that tangentially knows of autism but doesn't understand it. And I would assume you'd have a better understanding if you actually dated autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:58 PM
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You have gone very generic here. Can you be more specific? It seems like you just wrote a list of things without knowing how they fit into being autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:46 PM
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A big part of the equity push from feminist is to get more women in jobs like CEOs. They don't want equity in manual labor jobs. Men are more interested in those jobs because they care less about work/life balance. To achieve equity (50/50) they have to discriminate against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:41 PM
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Because there are more men interested in doing those things. Equity is all about discrimination. If you guys were pushing double or triple blind applications for things I would be 100% on board. But you don't want that because it will still result and more men doing the types of jobs you're trying to force women into.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:17 PM
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So you agree then. You want men to vote against their interests. Men did bad things in the past so men today must suffer. No wonder men and boys are not joining your movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:48 PM
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What autistic traits did these men display?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:45 PM
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It is. It pushes for equity. To achieve that you have to discriminate. The group that will be discriminated against is men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:32 PM
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You did. Modern feminism is against men's self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:21 PM
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What you are saying is to vote against their own self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:15 PM
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Selection bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:21 PM
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Yes and it is flawed. This is because you believe treating women as equals is misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:53 PM
2

You don't want to answer the question. Probably because treating women equal can't be misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:29 PM
2

I can't answer these questions because your position is unclear. Are women to be treated as equals or a protected class?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:18 PM
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It does. You have described it as wanting to take away reproductive rights from women. That would make them equal to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:07 PM
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So do women want to be treated as equals or as a privileged class?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:00 PM
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That's because of control not a bond
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:06 PM
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Pick me is a unless term. It just means a woman that says or does things I don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:57 PM
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social bonds enable us to stick together even when we can’t perform at our best otherwise And they break down one people take but don't give.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:42 PM
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That doesn’t take away from the value of the bonds you share with the people you love. No one is saying it does. You can't control the formation of a bond but you can with the terms of a transaction. Advice needs to be actionable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:01 PM
2

That bond forms from transactions and stays strong because of transactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:48 PM
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Women are not giving men they find unattractive a chance to banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:13 PM
2

It is an attempt to push off blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 02:09 PM
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You didn't explain how that contradictory at all. In fact you showed that those men would agree to date those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:33 AM
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We're talking about an individual holding two positions that are contradictory to each other. You're arguing a completely different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:00 AM
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That's not showing contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:36 AM
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That seems like a bad definition. Because I could only have one standard and that is all and it would mean I have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:07 PM
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This may be a semantic argument. What would you define as low, reasonable, high standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:11 PM
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I have met a few of those people in real life but I'm not seeing that here specifically. I will gladly look at any proof you have. Just remember the claim is that men as a whole here are contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:04 PM
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Additionally, try telling a short guy to date fat women and he will have a fit. Have proof? Its pretty obvious you see it on this sub all the time. I see different people making posts about their particular opinion. I don't see people arguing both positions like you're claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:51 PM
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Would you like to provide proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:34 PM
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To be contradictory you have to have the same person hold both those values. I think there are some men here that this would fall onto but most men no. Most men have very low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:32 PM
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I very much understand. It is not hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:24 PM
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Does the term have to have the same definition
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 02:23 PM
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No because you use the word kept. That is very important. What you said is he push a boundary once. I told him no. ( These are both fine.) He then proceeded to keep doing the thing you told him not to. ( Making him a piece of shit. ) If you said you don't like him because he pushed a boundary with you. I may think the first but would want to ask a question as to what the boundary was. This is assuming it happened once. If it was a small reason ( like a tap on the shoulder ) it would be a bit of …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:45 PM
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Whereas women see it as a purposefull attempt to get around our established and communicated boundaries I disagree that is pushing a boundary. What I believe we both agree on is that doing that makes you a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:34 PM
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So, if I don't know a man doesn't like holding hands. And its the 5 or so date and I go to touch his hand, im pushing his boundary even if he explains his boundary afterwards, and I drop the issue and don't make him feel bad about it? Yes. You pushed the boundary. But you handled it correctly by not continuing. So, going for something that may have a boundary is always pushing it no matter what? Yes. We still have societal boundaries. If an individual tells you that something is not a boundary b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 02:24 PM
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It is the second one. We are all taught basic boundaries as children. Making a move is violating that boundary because it implies that it has not been talked about. What you are describing is an asshole. Not pushing boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:50 PM
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The established boundary is not to put your hands on others and that is also the accepted standard. Nothing here says anything about those things needing to be between two individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:31 PM
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Yall are really trying to change the definition of pushing people's boundaries to like mundane shit like making moves or whatever. You have changed the definition. To be dependent upon a response. Like what is your personal definition of pushing a boundary? The first time breaking of a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:24 PM
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And in normal life we don't ask about boundaries. No one asks if they can tap you on the shoulder, they just do. That is pushing a boundary. What makes them an asshole or not is if they do it again or not. You are talking about not taking a no answer. That is different than pushing a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:52 PM
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You don't know a boundary until they say no to something. That boundary exists independently of your knowledge. You are conflating a person not caring about a boundary and the act of pushing one. We all push boundaries all day. What separates us is do we respect those boundaries. One you push a boundary and are told no and you continue you are a piece of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:37 PM
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That person doesn't know. Making a move is pushing a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:29 AM
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They are the same thing. The act you are doing is pushing the boundary. Their reaction to it doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:26 AM
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Yes. My goal is to build a life together and those are the things you need. I won't claim all or most men would but I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:19 AM
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The things I listed make a woman attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:38 AM
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The same type of person I am looking for now. They: Openly communicate Gives me free space Has a job Willing to work together on shared goals Wants a family Considerate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:47 PM
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You dodged my question first I will happily answer your first question and this question after you answer mine you were trying to derail this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:24 PM
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So you don't care about bot and men that are being raped? Not hard to answer the question I posed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:22 PM
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I read that to mean because they are fighting the law they want that. It that the actually are saying they want to rape children. Would you at least agree the law needs to be changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:10 PM
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This doesn't say anywhere that boys should be raped. That is not what the op said. They said it is not considered rape if a woman rapes a male child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:02 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compliment Learn what a compliment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:14 PM
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It is. You are also displaying the tendency we have to remember the negative experiences and forgetting the neutral or positive ones. The chances of that happening are small unless you start with the names calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:55 PM
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I think you're attractive and or interesting enough to be around that's the compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:31 AM
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You can look it up. The fact that you believe that someone making the decision not to report is the same as the law fundamentally not covering you tells me you're not worth the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:15 AM
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Sorry but those numbers are the self-reported numbers not crime stats. So them being unreported to police means nothing. Maybe you should work on your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:05 AM
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Only because the definition of rape precludes them from the crime. If we look at the main who penetrate stats it's pretty close.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:56 AM
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You have any articles on this? I have not seen anything on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:52 AM
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You don't provide evidence of people saying the things you say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:34 PM
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They in fact have not been. You are just wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:30 PM
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Show someone saying those words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:22 PM
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Importantly, men haven't lost much. You changed your argument. You said it got better for men. You have shown it got better for women/ better in general. How has it gotten better specifically for men. You are you just going to concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:18 PM
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This is all your perception of what they are saying though how you see the world, not what they are actually saying. If this is what they are actually saying it should be easy for you to provide but you never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 04:09 PM
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All your posts about men lying about wanting a relationships. All of your points are derived from your point of view that sees the world through your lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:47 PM
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It will basically always harm others. The problem is you're choosing a solution that actively harms a person. Maybe in areas like food assistance and stuff in that realm can be okay to use an equity-based model. Because the money for that is already baked into the money you give for taxes as it is so you're not causing any harm or additional harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:46 PM
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The difference is the free porn is just enticing you with here is some pron. It is not saying you can talk to and build a relationship with me that includes a sexual component.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:30 PM
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The result of that is a high suicide rate among wives, a high rate of "accidental death" among husbands, prevalence of DIY terminations (to lessen the amount of leverage an abusive husband could have), lots of self-medicating, free reign to cheat and abuse as long as it can't be proven in court, guaranteed lifelong domestic labor, guaranteed sexual release (marital SA wasn't recognized till later), and escalating protests/demonstrations, including refusal to do domestic labor, economic disruptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:08 PM
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Only covert narcissism is this post. Everything has to be through your lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:36 PM
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The person trying to sell you a holiday home isn't tending to engage with a romantic / sexual relationship with you. This is what many only fans creators are doing because it's what keeps them having customers. It is what distinguishes them from free pron. Just the fact that they have a chatting service chat to their customers instead of them themselves communicating is a huge issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:10 PM
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Sorry but you are wrong it is not better for men. It dismantled the power they had, both as a group and on an individual level. It was in fact that enough men had empathy for women that it changed. It was the morally right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:08 PM
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Equity is discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:57 PM
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Empathy is what makes you listen to their arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:57 AM
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So now you are dropping the why part? You used and.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:23 AM
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How is pretending to be your friend/some with might start sexual relationship with you not worse then a person giving you shit advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:28 AM
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Worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:20 AM
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The only fan girls are pretending it's real. The red pill gurus are pretending to be your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:15 AM
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No but these things are just as bad. If you look at only fans, they're pushing relationships with their subscribers but instead of building a relationship with the only fans model it is just a random person typing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:08 AM
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It is in fact helped you. It's actually the only reason you as a woman have rights. Societies in this world that don't have empathy for women don't give those women rights just look at the Taliban.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:04 AM
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The issue isn't necessarily you proving it but that people tend to have empathy for their perception of a problem not the actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:02 AM
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Empathy is the ability to understand how someone else feels and why. The problem is two fold. You deny why they feel that way. And because of that you can't understand. You at best understand your perspective of their situation. Basically you're empathizing with your own lens not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:59 AM
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Expecting sex is in fact a standard. The issue is expecting it for a particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:26 AM
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Relationships are built on the trading of comparable goods of unequal value. It is a holistic evaluation not a line for line.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 07:50 PM
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This is where you're wrong. You were tweeting all the things you're willing to give for the things you want. That is how a trade works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:51 PM
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So show how to do something and you take away all the means in which to do it. Social pressure is the correct way. You socially pressure women to stop the pushing of traditional role on to men. So ask when have your friends taken a man on a date, buy him gifts, not describe a man based upon his wallet. And if they are not meeting these things call them out for being bad partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:08 PM
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I am not because people articulate themselves correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:54 PM
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Idioms require a hyperbolic statement that doesn't work in reality. Like raining cats and dogs. Sorry people using language wrong doesn't change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:54 PM
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They can't answer the question because they know it destroys thier position.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:31 PM
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Asking or even that statement is not coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:18 PM
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And we're not talking about dictionary definitions, we're talking about how the words are used in the popular lexicon. The definition is the definition. You are not using the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:11 PM
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You have to do the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:09 PM
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/good You have to use the correct definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:42 PM
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They can ask that question. The people pounding it are having a conversation in a place like this that tells them they are wrong to want that thing in the first place. Not when talking to a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:40 PM
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Being good and morally positive is not the same. You have to specify that you are talking morally. Clear communication from you is required.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:37 PM
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Both the nice and kind thing is to not tell them. The honest thing is to tell them. The second makes you a better friend. You are conflating being nice in an individual moment and being a net positive morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:28 PM
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/nice Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:15 PM
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Those men can be upset and decide the relationship is over. You want them to stay in the relationship just because. That is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:47 PM
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A lot of women decide to say men were hiding things when that man's feelings on something changes. Because apparently he can have changed what he thought he always had those thoughts right from the beginning but lied about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:56 AM
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As long as you aren't purposely hiding something sure And you are the arbiter of if something is being hidden. Just an excuse used to make the other party the bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:49 AM
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It is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:47 AM
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So because you are losing the argument it is now a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:43 AM
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What things?? It doesn't matter. The point of these conversation is if you are not going to provide the other party with what they want they don't have to give you what you want. State what you want before you get in a relationship. One: things can change. You are not locked into what you want. Two: these things should be clearly articulated, some lots of women have trouble with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:42 AM
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You is saying you should? The point is I want these things in a relationship if a woman will not provide them I will not have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:26 AM
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The primary purpose of any interaction I have with anyone is me getting what I want and in return I will provide whatever the other side of the interaction wants. That sounds kinda bad ngl 🤣 You just want things with no effort. It is even evident in your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:24 AM
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This post reeks of entitlement. The basic premise comes down to men are not allowed to have any standards in the relationship at all. They must just take what they get and that's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:18 AM
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And men don't owe women relationships. Your post is useless. It is a negotiation between two parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:45 PM
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So you are agreeing that women do push the traditional male gender role onto men but it is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 10:23 PM
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Most women still expect a man to make the first move, defend them when in trouble, pay for dates, do most ( if not all) courting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:00 PM
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It is almost like they are tired of the one relationships women have been pushing. Still expect men to do the traditional role but refusing the traditional role themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 08:50 PM
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It is a hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:01 PM
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For example, people have a right not to be killed by other people, but most people agree that the principle of self-defense overrides that right in certain circumstances. It would not be the principal of self defense but the results of your own decisions. The main point on which the question of being forced to pay child support hangs is: does the right of a living child to be financially supported by their parent override the right of the parental individual to self-determination? But that is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:25 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:42 PM
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Then you would be ok with men not paying for child support for kids they didn't agree to having.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:02 PM
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Then the woman should not have sex without protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:43 AM
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You still don't actually believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:43 AM
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I think in the context of bodily autonomy 'life' is specifically about physically being alive, not all freedom to live life in whatever way one decides. You are wrong. I'm actually not trying to be difficult or contrarian, but having a specific term to talk about self-determinism over one's own physical body, separate from self-determinism that has to do with one's actions or behaviors, seems to be the main point of the term in the first place. Nope. His thing you've narrowed the definition. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 12:39 AM
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It is tied in and you don't believe in bodily anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:34 PM
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Pregnancy is a known risk of sex So abortion should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:23 PM
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The irony is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 09:21 PM
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Bodily autonomy is the fundamental human right to make independent decisions about one's own body, health, and life, free from coercion, violence, or government interference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:56 PM
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Bodily autonomy isn't really about what things you might do (by moving your body around in and interacting with the world) You just changed the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:51 PM
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Leggings and like are all subjective measures based on the individual person putting them there. Value itself does not have a universal, only in the abstract concept that value exists is universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:06 PM
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I have never believed that it's been been an objective measure of what high value is or isn't. Value because of its nature is always subjective. If you had a billion dollars $20 is not going to be that valuable to you. But if you have $0 $20 becomes pretty valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:05 PM
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Unless they're paying for it or the woman is using them men have to show some level of being high value to get a chance to have sex with them. Aren't out here just throwing pussy at low volume men. It's unfortunate that when they deem to be high value tends to be more materialistic most of the time versus things that actually matter but that's a different question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:04 PM
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Value is in the eye of the beholder. So at the time you had sex with him you found him to be high value. He lied about that value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:50 PM
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So throughout that year he showed you he was high value in that high League. If you didn't believe he was you wouldn't have slept with him. Being in a high League or high value doesn't mean you're a good person. It should but it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:26 PM
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Only men from a high league are going to get that chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:46 PM
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Dude, holding men accountable and victim blame is different things. Agree. Op victim blames.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:47 AM
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So does that mean you're not a good woman because you victim blame men all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:39 AM
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I can very easily. It is not a refusal to accept outside perspectives. It is that outside perspectives don't provide any evidence that they are in fact reality. Just like you here have not provided any evidence whatsoever. So here I was giving you a chance to provide that evidence, so that I can evaluate it and see if it makes more sense and has better statistical significance. But instead of taking that chance. You decided to accuse me of trying to get you to dox yourself. Seems very clear to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:32 PM
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You didn't make an argument. You said you published a paper. I never asked for the paper. You are here in bad faith. Edit: replied asking what proof I wanted and then blocked me so I can't respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:07 PM
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I am looking for your proof. Just like op. You have provided no proof for any claims. If you want to debate, you need to provide that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:43 PM
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Not that hard. Give them alone time. Don't argue passive aggressively Be straight forward in communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:20 PM
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You have to provide proof. Just disagreement doesn't make you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:15 PM
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Then you should easily be able to provide examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:14 PM
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The good girl is the ideal. But we all don't get the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:28 PM
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For Court yes. But if a man tells a person they were falsely accused of rape source the believe them like when women say they were raped? Prosecuting people for false claims needs to happen but most likely will never happen. They are too worried that it will cause women not to come forward. But the people who should want false accusations to be charged the most should be women who were raped. Because the more women get away with falsely accusing men of rape less likely their story is going to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:07 PM
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If you are already dating someone you are not on the dating market. Those women are already in a relationship. They are the high value women. Just like the real high value men are not on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:39 PM
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So then we can say that is could be woman raping the woman. It just says they experience it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:43 AM
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That is the current date. Sorry it is women. The number for men is under the rape section because the CDC is using the sexist definition of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:22 AM
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https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/documentation/nisvsReportonSexualViolence.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:11 AM
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That 1/9 is by women that is the stat for made to penetrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:03 AM
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Right now it is 1/6 women and 1/9 men that experience rape or attempted rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:19 AM
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What does that have to do with my post? Your underling attitude towards men wanting this. Because those are the ones the redpill actually pays attention to. No. It is because the woman not like this are not on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:11 PM
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That seems to be most women in the dating market. Also sorry that men want women that desire them and show it. This seems more like you are trying to drag other women down because you refuse to step up your game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:27 PM
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Basically anything that has come out about autism in the last few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:53 PM
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The issue is I am very high functioning. So I have a full time job. It feels like I am the case that falls through the cracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:52 PM
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You don't know what it is clearly by your responses. I have to do all my own research just to get a referral to a therapist. The doctor just wanted to put me on meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:40 PM
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We will see. I am hoping that getting the diagnosis will open up resources. I can't find a therapist that can actually help me. The one I just left was telling me to just go hang out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:38 PM
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Trying to explain to people is hard. They have a very narrow idea of what autism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:03 PM
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Women get divorced all the time because they are bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 04:56 PM
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What precisely do you think should be taught, as social skills interventions are already popular for autistic people but don't automatically place them in romantic relationships? Those are rare and very expensive. You don't seem to know anything about autism when it comes to the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:45 PM
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Quite a few autistic people just don't see a relationship as worth the sacrifice or wouldn't put effort into finding one That doesn't mean they don't want one. although, as finding a relationship isn't a matter of following rules for a guaranteed reward, I must again ask what you think should be taught to autistic people (and when and by whom and with what funding). You have to teach autistic people the concepts of social interactions and behaviors. Be as it may that you'd consider most to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 05:28 PM
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therapists especially love to bring it up in random cases even though they can't diagnose This is not the case( at least as an adult). Getting a therapist to even agree to look into the possibility of you being autistic is a fight. Surely there are issues with autistic people not wanting relationships due to differing sensory needs or not wanting to be around other people as much (they're also significantly more likely to be asexual). Autism doesn't present in the same way for everyone. Those do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:49 PM
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Are you autistic? I am 95% sure. I have preliminary diagnosis from a therapist and I have an evaluation coming up this month for a definitive diagnosis. Why do you think it is the case? If you are asking why I think I have it. It is because I have a very hard time reading social cues, I take what people say literally, and it is have to form and maintain relationships. If you are asking about the low number of autistic men in relationships. Because you are not taught how to build and have a roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 03:40 PM
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Massive effects. Only about a third of autistic men have had a relationship and only 10% get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:23 PM
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Yup. It will always lead back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:18 PM
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You did in fact moralize his lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:15 PM
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Don't know why OP is spending this much time and effort insisting they have the right to opt out of being a good influence on their peers Not what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:31 PM
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So two wrongs make a right. That makes you morally bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:42 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:27 PM
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It is 100% seen as a moral failing to not be able to get a date. The whole world isn’t going to get mad at you if you can’t get a date. This is moving the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:03 PM
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That is literally the topic you presented.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:59 PM
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I mean it's not a moral failure to not share my interests. Unfortunately most people see it as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 01:10 PM
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Dates and gifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:29 AM
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Most women seem to want to do no work in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:56 PM
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When did I say that? It is not helpful, they ( and you) want credit without the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:26 PM
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She would ask so if she ran into one that was looking she could make the suggestion. That is helpful not randomly suggesting a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:08 PM
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That same thing is told to men. He must have done something to make her cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:19 PM
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Randomly suggesting a person is not helpful. Let's focus on her not him. If she wanted to be helpful in getting him a relationship she would have asked questions including the type of person he is looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:02 PM
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How is she being helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 01:33 PM
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They do because they constantly complain about the advice men do seek and get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 04:09 PM
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They don't you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:18 PM
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That doesn't show interest. Thy is why you are getting ghosted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:03 PM
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What are you doing to show you are interested? This is the issue that many women don't do anything and expect a man to treat them like royalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:50 AM
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That is the experience of a man. I have been trying for 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:38 AM
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Only once and you are done. I would have stopped 20 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:26 AM
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Elo (often stylized as ELO, but correctly named after its creator Arpad Elo) is a mathematical system used to calculate the relative skill levels of players in competitor-vs-competitor games. It is widely used in chess, esports, and sports to rank players and ensure balanced matchmaking. They all have it. Higher ELO gets shown often. Lower ELO gets hidden. And what they track is how much an account is swiped on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:22 AM
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Dating apps have ELO. It will push the top profiles to you. Lot of men are stopping using them. The other issue is the men you are picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:56 AM
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She is a bitch, using drugs, smokes, looks to be materialistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:35 AM
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That is very rare especially at the beginning of a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:46 PM
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They don't pay so it is not. Things to make yourself attractive don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:18 PM
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When you're making the claim that it doesn't cost me money to go on dates, you should know that information. Even with splitting becoming more common it is still not the norm. The norm is the man pays for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 05:04 PM
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How many women are out there paying for dates? Not splitting but paying the whole thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 04:40 PM
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They get offended and tell you, you are not entitled to sex. The big issue here is you think a man asking for advice is complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:07 PM
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That was not complaining. That was asking for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:00 PM
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The thing is none of those are complaining about lack of sex. So in fact men can't complain about lack of sex. Thank you for proving the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:48 PM
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One what about single men. Two that is not complaining about lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:12 PM
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You put zero effort into it. I asked for effort but you refuse to give examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 06:06 PM
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You can do both very easily. This is just a way to shame man for having emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:51 PM
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There is that projection again. Thank you have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 05:47 PM
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that may be, but also you might just not see that you do it exactly like that with blame and attack. Sounds like blaming men for having feelings and projection. it's easy to see. People who do something write differently, momentary weakness is also seen, and it's easy to see pity party. Sounds like you made up criteria to not be wrong. Can you show an example where you would say this person is working on it and this one is not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:58 PM
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2) it's okay to complain about any lack of sex.....so long as you don't blame women and demand for them to fix that. Or attack them for being so "shallow" to not want you. Too bad no matter how you do it, it will always be taken this way. 3) as someone here said people don't like lots of complaint from people who do nothing to solve their issues. Pity parties are irritating no matter the gender and the reason, i'm not there to provide pity. I assume not many want to. Cry about your issues if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 04:26 PM
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You're making the positive claim and refusing to provide evidence. So it sounds like it's not true to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:06 PM
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Then it is going to be easy for you to provide me with a link to the authority on feminism where it has this position laid out. The person making the positive claim is the one responsible for giving the information.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:42 PM
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Because that's not the conversation we're having you're trying to change it to that because you know it is brought up specifically to diminish male experiences and to victim blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:32 PM
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It is used to blame the victim plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:56 PM
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No when men talk about how they're actually more likely to be the victim of violent crime, to then say yeah but it's men doing it. Is to discredit men suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:22 PM
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Feelings projection is what men are doing when they tell women to choose better. Because if it were serious, they would say stuff like “choose better among men you find attractive” instead of “give average guys a chance.” So already we know it is not about women choosing better, it’s about them not being chosen. You are projecting right here. Because the advice of give average guys a chance is not choose better so your feelings are the same but they are not. Also choose better has never been abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:44 PM
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I'm worried about the poisonous of a snake, I would learn how to tell a poisonous snake from a regular snake. But also once again this is the issue we come up here you're not addressing the actual issue. Your diminishing the feeling of men have for the fear their safety because other men are doing it. You're essentially blaming the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:41 PM
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And where's the proof that they're telling you specifically to choose better when you're not complaining about dating? The only time I ever see anyone tell women to choose better is when they constantly complain about how shit dating is. And the fact that you didn't acknowledge that I said if in my comment has me believing that you don't take into account everything people say and are projecting your feelings onto what they're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:31 PM
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You notice how I use the word if. Also do you have proof of them telling you you specifically to choose better. Or is it that men tell women to choose better as advice when they complain about how bad dating is? They do what you are doing right now, which is assume what my dating life is like, I didn't make any assumption of your dating life. You're projecting an assumption on to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:24 PM
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If you're constantly complaining about the men you're dating are bad men that's all they really need to know that you need to choose better. In fact actually doing what women want you to do which is to believe them. Regardless of your gender if all your partners are bad then you need to choose better it's just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:18 PM
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Sorry but the preparator of violence is irrelevant to the person being attacked. And women saying but it is done by man is an attempt to discredit men's suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 11:00 AM
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The phrase "choose better" can be meant genuinely, but it is my experience that men (here) do not meant it genuinely. It actually is genuine. You (and others) don't want it to be real because you can't shift blame to the person getting chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:53 AM
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They always assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:51 AM
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So you lose an argument and then try to gaslight. Bro if you never believe people you disagree with what do you expect to ever learn ? That is not how you learn. You ask for proof. Because you are not saying my experience is x. You are telling men my experience is wrong. Who knows my experience better? Also it's just painting yourself into a corner. You're the only one doing this. You're saying no women use manipulation to get what they want. Just admit you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 10:34 AM
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Yes cuz manipulators 100% tell everyone that they're manipulators. Sounds like you have very bad social skills you think manipulators are going to tell you they manipulate people. I listen to their victims and watch their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:53 AM
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Does my anecdote cancel out yours? I guess but it doesn't actually prove that it's a feminist position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:52 AM
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Wait it's a woman's fault that the guy couldn't be an adult? That is the opposite of what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:49 AM
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I have investigated further by talking to and looking at what people say. They have presented antidotal evidence by saying that it is a famous position but have not provided any proof of their claims. It's the job of the person making the positive claim to provide proof. And since feminism doesn't in fact rely on a single individual or organization for its tenants or ideals you're going to have a hard time proving that that is in fact a feminist position. But I'm willing to look at the informati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:35 AM
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And everything I've seen has shown that it doesn't seem to be a feminist position. Is a difference between a stated position and a revealed position. A stated position is worthless if you revealed position is counter to it. So if all the famous are like hey I believe it should be 50/50 on dates but when I go on a date I want to be paid for. The feminist position is I want to be paid for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 01:23 AM
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You seem to be confused on what I'm saying. My example is hey this is what I find fun. No they might not find it fun okay but that means then the date itself wasn't a fun day cuz it wasn't planned that way. Because it can't be a fun day to the person if they're not having fun. So the whole point of this is to say hey normal guy is playing fun date is an issue. That would not be my go-to. Honestly I rather do something like mini golf bowling that kind of thing. Going to like a coffee shop maybe o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:50 PM
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The argument it is a feminist position. But evidence shows it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:00 PM
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No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 09:43 PM
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But do you have to tell people you are seeing other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:58 PM
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I agree with sex because it could put their health at risk. What about just dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:37 PM
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You didn't say go up to them and offer a relationship or dating just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:24 PM
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In that case why are they mad they leave after. You only offered sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:18 PM
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I'm not trying to be dismissive, but...get out of your head. You are be very dismissive. And not at all helpful. Can you have fun with her, yes or no? Yes. Doing things I find fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:57 PM
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Why did you change the situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:25 PM
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It is on the floor. The 5th floor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:19 PM
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You have not using "my" definition at all. Sure there are rare (not saying non-existent) scenarios where the woman doesn't want to do anything and simply expects the man to be her servant, using sex as a manipulation tactic -which obviously is manipulative and abusive. That is not at all what I am talking about or the definition of choreplay. But most of the time, having to nag the man to take an equal (or proportional) share of household chores gradually kills the woman's desire for him - and b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:05 PM
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That's because TRP rebranded many bluepill concepts like BEING A FUCKING ADULT lol You can't possibly think encouraging men to be normal adults is a red pill thing my god, that's too terminally online. Talk to older people and ask them, please. When did I say it was? I only said they tell men to do this. But if EVERYONE is telling you that you are wrong. Isn't it more likely that you are making a mistake and not everyone else? Not really because most people don't do the research. I have years of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:50 PM
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Yes, you should be a functional adult regardless your relationship status this isn't red pill btw, it's as bluepill as the sky. The redpill people I watch all day this. when are you going to start looking at yourself and realize maybe you understood it wrong? Because others are wrong about the use of the phrase doesn't mean I have to agree with that wrong use.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:25 PM
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I think if you don't want to have one or two dates to figure out compatibility you are not that serious about looking for the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 05:20 PM
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Who wants a date to only be productive? I would be 100% fine with that. When you are looking for a long term thing discussions need to be had. I definitely should not be the first couple of days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:57 PM
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No. Choreplay is about deception. That is why it is different than just being a functional adult. People that are red pill and not just grifter tell men to be an functional adult that will function as if the woman is not there ( as in you don't need her to do basic things for you, not ignoring her).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:44 PM
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So you date assholes not men. And because not that men must follow traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:36 PM
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So dates don't have to be fun to be productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:59 PM
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Do you have something else you could talk about? Do you have a bunch of things you can talk about? I do but that doesn't guarantee fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:47 PM
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I don't see it. Most date activities are not fun. And I can enjoy something without having fun. I can see most people planning an enjoyable date. Like going to dinner and talking can be enjoyable but I would not say I had fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:31 PM
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So if a date is fun or not is based on the person that is planning the date? Because for the no people it is based on what they find fun. So how can you say normal men plan fun dates? It is based on personal preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:13 PM
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Sure but that is not what said. It was normal guys plan fun dates. Is that a fun date? Because most of the guys I know would think so. Getting to do something they like with another person. Supper fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:00 PM
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But their perception is what matters to that comment. If they find it boring I am boring. So this advice fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:53 PM
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The issue is that normal can mean whatever they want it to mean. And if they give hard examples it is always not normal things. Normal is relative to the whole group, not just part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:40 PM
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Normal" men aren't boring. Normal men built rapport, banter/flirt, ask a woman out if she reciprocates, and are capable of coming up with a basic idea of something fun for the two of them to do during a date, and can be in her company doing said activity without coming off as creepy or inhibited. They have senses of humor, can make her smile/laugh, and if she's single and has the ability to find him attractive, he builds tension which makes whatever initial attraction she has towards him actiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:38 PM
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The best way is to have a set of standards that you want regardless of what your partner did in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:09 PM
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I don't see the difference. They are the same. The results in the same outcome. The only difference is the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 01:06 PM
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Would I be ok for a man to want a woman to do that for him in the sexual context?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:53 PM
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3 of my aunts. One of my cousin's girlfriends. Plenty of girls in highschool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:39 AM
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I have. Hiding the terms would be a covert contract. All it is is a contract made by one party that the other doesn't know about. If you hide the terms the other party can't know about the contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:38 AM
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Yes they are. It happens often. Plenty of women use sex to manipulate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:31 AM
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The covert part lying about the terms..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:30 AM
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You are creating a contract by saying do x to get y. That is different then to increase your chances of getting y do x.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:26 AM
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If you tell someone you are true and you cheat, you are the asshole and should be treated as such. Can't cheat if you have not established exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:53 AM
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The issue they don't say the second part until you say "hey I did what you said and got nothing." It is there excuse to get out of the covert contract they established.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:51 AM
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The idea of choreplay is not that you're meeting basic expectations of being an adult in exchange for sex, but that your partner is less likely to be to exhausted for sex if they're no longer doing every single thing that needs doing in the house That is not what choreplay is. It is the direct statement I would have sex with you if you did more chores. And when the person does more chores you still don't have sex with them and move the goal post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:48 AM
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It’s not dishonest to say that men should do more work at home They dishonesty is directly saying if you did more chores I would have sex with you. And when they do more chores you still don't have sex with them. Paying is paying for the relationship prospect Then why is the expectation that men pays. I don't see many people out here telling women to pay( not split, pay the whole thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:43 AM
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Monogamy is agreed upon. Monogamy is not a covert contract. So until ba conversation is had about exclusivity you can't be cheating. But that in not how I see women engaging with this. They assume exclusivity because they have engaged in a covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:40 AM
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Plenty of women are happy to go 50/50 on dates*. Do you have stats for this. Last I saw it was at highest 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:36 AM
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Feminists are generally opposed to the cultural expectation that men pay for dates precisely because it’s part of an implicit contract in the minds of a lot of men. Not what I have seen. All the feminist I know still expect traditional treatment in dating. They are just mad that men also have expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:34 AM
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All the feminist I know still want and expect traditional dating treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:32 AM
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There is a difference between choreplay and doing things to help out. You should be doing things around the house. The issue is that in choreplay women create a contract of do chores and I will give you sex. But the unspoken part is they don't have an obligation to fulfill their end. So if you are not willing to go through with it don't present the contract. Not going though it shows you to be a person that doesn't keep their word, a major red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:29 AM
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Intimacy includes sex but is not limited to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 10:16 AM
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Women suffer misogyny systematically men only "suffer" from misandry online That is wrong. You believe it is okay to collectively punish men because of misogyny. Not all men are misogynist. But you're going to treat them the same way anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 11:02 AM
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So collective punishment is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:46 AM
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The hatred of men is not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:36 AM
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Not sure how this relates to my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:34 AM
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All women are attracted to attractive men. Not all men are going after baddies, there are a lot of us going for the "wife material" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 01:29 AM
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The best definition is : an equal exchange of goods of unequal value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:40 PM
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You want to set up people to fail. The role of a father and the role changing society is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 05:13 PM
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I want a dad who attracts women and has options," isn't the same thing as, "I want a dad who has excellent life skills," even if one man can be functionally both It is. It's also his job to teach a son the difference between the world he's in and the world as it should be, and empower him to think better, do better, and demand better, right? You can't do that if you can't succeed without knowing how to win in the system. That is the father's job. So a man with the ideal father figure would be on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:56 PM
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Not how markets work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:56 PM
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If a man is well-rounded, functional and healthy, where on the list of life skills do you think he places "attracting women" and "having options"? You are looking at this wrong. It is the life skills that get the man attracting women and having options. By teaching his son these things he is teaching independence, social skills, problem solving skills, and how to stand up for oneself. It is a fathers job to teach a son how to succeed in the system we have. And that system values men based on wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 02:33 PM
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I thought women were attracted to good men? And why do you think that my statement implies pus stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:59 PM
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Most of the men I know that are struggling didn't have a father figure at all. Now one to model when it comes to attracting women. The ideal would be a man that can basically get any women he wanted and choose one to be with. He didn't give up or stop with those things that gave him those options. Stands up for themselves even if it makes his wife mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:19 PM
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From what I know there are high safety standards in those jobs. The issues are not following them and unfortunately things are going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:44 PM
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You took it to mean what you wanted not what I said. So how about you address what I actually said?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:42 PM
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I never said anything about those being standards or not. Never said if they were ok or not. You are conflating two groups of men. Then men that have those standards do because they have the ability to filter because there are women after them. Aka the top percentage of men. The desperate men don't have them because they get no attention from women. What you're doing is engaging in the Apex fallacy. No, you just don't understand me. You refuse to engage with what I said. Instead engaged with a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:35 PM
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You very clearly didn't read what I wrote because you are making things up or are confusing it for a different comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:20 PM
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It feels like you didn't read the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:49 AM
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You are conflating two different types of men. In my personal experience, I have been told by women that I should have higher standards for women because I am willing to date the woman you mentioned ( not gold digger, I want to be loved for me not what I give materialistic things). Those women are looking for the top men and don't give guys like me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:35 AM
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I knew girls in highschool with fake IDs that went to bars to hit on older men. As far as those men knew they were 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:22 AM
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The issue is not finding a 17 year old attractive. It is what you do when you find out that person is 17. If you just looked at people could you tell if they are 17 or 18?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:10 AM
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. But feminists also helped to get the law to a point where it was acknowledged even acknowledged, It is not. Rape law is still defined by penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:05 PM
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And that survey has false positives in it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:26 PM
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The other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:25 PM
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You just call anyone who doesn't agree with you a misandrist, which is not helping your case. When do I call you a misandrist? When did I say it was because of a disagreement?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 08:31 PM
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Nope. There is not a logical step between the two. It is all emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:58 PM
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Not really an ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:37 PM
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An ick by definition is minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:36 PM
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My icks aren't minor They are not icks then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:28 PM
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I'm talking about a specific phenomenon where women are conditioned to fear men because of experiences from a very young age where women feel physically threatened by men. You can't just decide that I'm actually talking about something else just so men can be lumped in. This right here is why you get called a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:23 PM
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same scale and frequency as women and girls do? That doesn't matter. What matters is the individual's experience with those things. That is why she's saying she hasn't heard reporting of the same scale and frequency of harassment happening to boys. Because "individual experience" is so broad as to be meaningless. What is the actual harm level? It doesn't matter we're talking about individuals making an individual choice whether or not to be misogynistic or misandrist. How other people are affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:15 PM
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Diffrance from a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:12 PM
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Logical if you are sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:09 PM
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I am directly commenting on what you said. . I just haven’t heard hardly any men describe this as their experience. That doesn't matter. What matters can a man use them to do what you do with men? Physical fear is what causes women to be wary of men, so that’s why I’m using it as a parallel. And that gatekeeps men out of the discussion. It should be about all abuse. The framing is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:36 PM
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I can think of red flags but not icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:21 PM
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Is it based on your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:20 PM
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Only not liking cats is a minor thing. Do by your definition that is the only ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:19 PM
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So judging an individual for the sins of others is ok. I never heard them say the man was doing anything wrong. Just the fact he is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:11 PM
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What are men's icks?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:40 PM
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Have proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:39 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:38 PM
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The only people trying to keep men in traditional roles, is men here. It is women. They rewarded transitional men. But it’s not though, how many men blame rape victims or tell her “she should have picked better” for mens actions against women They are horrible like the women that say man can't get raped. The issue here is it ok to use your experience and that of others to have a negative view of an entire group of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:09 PM
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I just have not seen data or enough men come forward with this claim to believe it to be true. So no individual experience doesn't count because it is men? Also why is it only physical fear? Those make you seem misandrist. As for your other questions, we can debate them if you want, but that’s not what my comment is about. The debate is whether or not having those beliefs makes me a misandrist, not whether you agree with them. Well you posted them in the same comment so they are relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:36 PM
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Sometimes misandry can be like a response to misogyny That means the opposite is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:09 PM
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, I consider women’s general wariness of men to be warranted due to our lived experiences feeling fear from a man’s actions starting from a young age. Some men believe that makes me a misandrist. I do not The issue is that justification is only allowed in that situation. Men are called misogynistic for doing that. Why shouldn't you get called misandrist. collectively should not swipe on every profile on a dating app or just accept the first woman who says yes to them. How would this help? I beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:07 PM
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More options are better than fewer. From talking to women they don't see those as options because they preemptively put them in no bag. But those are in fact options. There is also this crazy idea that women are of higher quality than men, so the limited options men have are better. They are not. They are of the same quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:19 AM
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Yes because the things can be discussed with general it can't be with vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:11 PM
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That is literally the only way we can have a conversation about this kind of thing unless we just want to talk about what each individual person does.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:39 PM
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A good man would remember the things you eat and places you like to go. They would use that information to plan the date. If they got feedback that requires change they would charge. All of that is in fact leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:16 PM
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You don't know what leadership is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:06 PM
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Where did the we come from? The man plans the date and invites the woman to it. That is leadership. Sorry you don't like the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:47 PM
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Cool. But many older women think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:46 PM
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The last line of your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:36 PM
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I would because it shows entitlement and disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:19 PM
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Making a plan and getting others to agree. Is not leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:18 PM
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Not a sacrifice. I don't value half a sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:12 PM
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Brokey, Dusty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:11 PM
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No. If that is the case every interaction between people is transactional. The thing that "nice guys" believe and women hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 09:00 PM
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Also, why calling a man who didn't earn money as such is insult? If you don't understand how calling people names is disrespect, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:58 PM
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Tell that to the woman mad at men for picking the first one..
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:57 PM
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an act of giving up something valued for the sake of something else regarded as more important or worthy. Are they still sacrifices if you're getting something out of it? Depends. Are you expecting something in return. Are they always sacrifices if you aren't getting something out of it? It is about doing without looking for return. If you get a return or not doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:50 PM
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It is everything that goes along with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:44 PM
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It is when you say it is because they are gay and going to cheat on you with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:42 PM
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Basically a hook up without promises of future entanglements. So no paying. No talking about a relationship with them ( lie or real). No saying we will go on another date (lie or real).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:01 PM
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If he has the capability to easily have non-committal sex he is a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:51 PM
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Yes. Maybe not in the exact words but that would be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:47 PM
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The one for love is vague. The others are workable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:44 PM
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Love Equality Patriarchy Sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:27 PM
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Chad. Will you define those terms now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 06:05 PM
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I am assuming op is talking about a general trend not every single woman. So in light of that I believe my answer here are the general trend for men. Do you want define the terms in op? In fact, almost every definition of “Chad” I have heard from others involves him being physically attractive That is a means to an end. If you are physically attractive and can't get non-committal sex easily, you are not a Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:44 PM
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It is an umbrella term. It is vague. Out of what op listed this should be the only one that is vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:32 PM
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When men talk about wanting a woman who is “physically attractive” that means the exact same thing every time to every person? No but the man can give you the things they find physically attractive. So when men talk about love, it’s something concrete and immutable then? The willingness to make sacrifices for a person. When men talk about wanting “sexual enthusiasm” there’s absolutely no nuance or wiggle room in what that means? Being an active participant. Move around, push back against thrusti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:29 PM
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There is a level of attraction there. I am not into men. A man could be the most compatible person in the universe for me. I will not gain attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:18 PM
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Potential attraction is still attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:52 PM
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That doesn't actually dispute what I said. In fact it bolsters it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:47 PM
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That comes after attraction and could be a reason to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 11:32 AM
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It would be the same categories that men use. I also don't think it would be bad to do some of the traditional women things. The important part is engaging in the type of relationship you want from the beginning. It will be individual to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:22 PM
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Women need to remember to court the men they are dating. Too many don't and wonder why men don't stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:01 PM
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In general I don't care about them. But way too many are using dating platforms to sell their content. Talking to someone ( most likely not even them) for a few hours or days just to find out they are only there to sell you stuff, leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:50 PM
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That is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:12 PM
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You are the only one talking about harassment. So you didn't read. And saying you can't hold two contradictory things true at the same time is fundamentally logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 08:00 PM
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Thanks for showing you didn't read what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:50 PM
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You can't say women dress for the male gays in one breath and then say we don't dress for attention we dress for ourselves. You have to pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:38 PM
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Explaining why something happens doesn't mean you don't try to avoid it. If fact it is part of teaching how to by showing you what to look for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:37 PM
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Then how do you explain Trans men reporting higher libido after stating testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:34 PM
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In my 30s can say the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:25 PM
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I thought women didn't dress for attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:20 PM
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For who?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:38 PM
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Fuck I forgot. Thanks for reminding me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 05:28 PM
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They do but when you say one thing and do another, that is evidence of you lying. That is what follow actions not words is telling people. That people often lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:34 PM
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And you are applying that to individuals. Meaning you are making assumptions about that person's words.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:26 PM
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All your assumptions. Like you assume mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:10 PM
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No. You hear what a person does and then see what they do. Those are only on that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 03:01 PM
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So your assumption on what people are saying is better than the actual words they are using.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:54 PM
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No but society just decides that it's okay because their victims are boys so they totally wanted to have sex and it doesn't matter that they couldn't consent. And if they declined to have sex with that woman they're told they're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:36 PM
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There are plenty female pedoes out there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:30 PM
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Honestly it is not worth it. She doesn't engage with good faith. To her men have to put in lots of effort and be ok with getting none. If they are not they only want sex and not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:30 PM
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I break up with them. Not looking for temporary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:15 PM
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It lacks the context of likeness to be attacked. I am not being emotional just actually using stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 08:03 PM
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Doesn't change the facts. You guys don't like statistical analyst .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:06 PM
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That date Is not correct because you refuse to look at the context. That being women are less likely to be victims of violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 04:03 PM
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Because the stat you are referring to lacks context and is meaningless. Learn to read stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:15 PM
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Can't be that important if you're hanging out with a gangster.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:15 PM
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Then personality is not a looked after trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:47 PM
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They would still be safer hanging around men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:46 PM
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So then all the women attacking men for fear of false rape allegations are being horrible people too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:16 PM
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And that fear is constantly minimized, The danger is overemphasized.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:10 PM
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Doesn't matter. Men are more likely to be murdered or assaulted. Thus it is safer to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:22 PM
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And men are in fact in more danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:21 PM
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No they don't. Women are far safer than men are. That is the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:20 PM
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That woman don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:20 PM
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Your pov is not reality. Just because you feel unsafe doesn't mean you are. And dealing with that feeling is part of emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:56 AM
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Proving the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 11:55 AM
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So people have ideals but will choose options that don't fully meet them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:36 AM
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Both links are the same. The issue with the first one is it is just a description of traits not tied to a physical representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:14 AM
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And that's what hookers say in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:41 PM
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I will agree if you put yourself in the same category.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:32 PM
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And people wonder why some men expect sex after a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:30 PM
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The people in denial of the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:29 PM
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Don't bother. They won't take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:40 PM
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If they have a fuck buddy they can go be with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:02 PM
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How is flirting sexual? How is it not? If it wasn't nee would not have a different word then banter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:27 PM
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So interest is shown through flirting, building sexual tension, and getting to know more about the person. The first two are sexual. So pretty much only through sexual means is how you show interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:05 PM
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And you will call out your girlfriends that don't do these things and complain men don't want to commit to them( if they never have would you)?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:53 PM
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I just see many women won't do these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:39 PM
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And are you doing these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:24 PM
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Then how do you show interest in non sexual ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:20 PM
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A man cheating is the woman's fault. Where is that post claiming men take accountability for their actions? Where did I say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:19 PM
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Are you asking about them? Do you buy them gifts? Do you plan dates? Do you pay for dates? Do you try to make a bad day they are having good? Do you remember the things they say? Do you initiate conversation? Do you change plans to accommodate them? Are you willing to go on a date that is just sitting on the beach? These things show interest. Just showing up to a date that is being paid for is not in itself showing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:44 PM
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We have different definitions of friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:36 PM
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So you don't want to answer the question? Because I don't believe everything here is about sex. I guess I was right you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:22 PM
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I think a FWB relationship will be the best of both worlds so the perfect style of relationship. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:12 PM
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You automatically assume a man's position because he disagrees with you. I don't see men here making everything about sex, that is your basis showing. Yes it is a lot about it but not everything. If you know the difference how do you show interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:11 PM
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The same places that people have seen it the way they have
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:02 PM
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Your inability to believe that men could want any other signs of interest besides sex. If you engaged with other signs of interest you would not jump to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:01 PM
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If that is what you want. No problems just don't complain when they don't want to change to a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:56 PM
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It seems to be women like you that can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:55 PM
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There is a difference between hanging out with a person and being around them for things. Sorry that we believe women need to do more than exist in our presence to show they are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:41 PM
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Maybe we both agree that if you want an open relationship the relationship should start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:38 PM
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They ask for it but don't really want it. I would place it in the same vain as a dude that asked his wife/gf to fuck him and then gets upset when she does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:36 PM
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Not all the girls just the fact they are going to sleep with one. I have been shown some of the opposite but not enough for me to say it is a stereotype to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:24 PM
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it is more common for women in a monogamous relationship to request an open one, please. I didn't claim that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:10 PM
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I don't think it is common and is less common that that question doesn't end up with the dissolving of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 02:06 PM
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open relationship trainwreck stories on Reddit usually go Why are you limiting it to reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:51 PM
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Top posts don't make a stereotype. It has to happen frequently. That is not the only place stories are told. Plus it looks more like a sub for posting content from other subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:34 PM
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You have a time line here of 3 years. So one every 3.6 months. Doesn't create a stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:27 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of Those involved falling in love not just having sex. Changing the situation from we are going to have sex with others to we are going to date others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:20 PM
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No it is to get a husband early. Wife Googles keeps you at the age you two started to date. The reason they get removed is because the wife stops putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:04 PM
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You want to link to posts because a look though doesn't show the stereotype you are talking about at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:57 PM
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Actually it is pretty simple. Don't waste time in your early years with men you know are not going to be husbands if you want marriage. And if that is too late you have to settle for a man that is not your ideal like most men have to for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:50 PM
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I have never seen that ever. Always the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:33 PM
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I have never seen that happen. Men know it is hard for them to get sex and easy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:14 PM
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. If it started as a monogamous relationship and then was opened, yeah that’s 90% likely not going to work. These are the stories we hear. It is always a woman wanting to open it up. And the second the man sleeps with another person the experiment is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:54 AM
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Then they are lying about multiple things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:48 PM
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Where I live it is progressive and honestly they are worse about it. They want the benefits without putting in effort. It seems most women that want 50/50 are already in a relationship. Those in the dating world are mostly lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:30 PM
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That's why I'm more comfortable with 50/50 relationships You might be but most women don't seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:26 PM
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And the three you point out say nothing about how this person treats you or others, are they willing to put in the work when things get hard, how do they control their emotions. You know the things that matter in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 12:36 PM
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Key word is part. You can't say you are looking for personality but only looking at a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:20 AM
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I do but this isn't about the individual but the environment they are in. And that environment tells women to do less and hold men to their gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:32 PM
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In your first paragraph why can't women do those things? When you are always expected to do those things it is a chore. And on top of that many women are just using men for free meals or entertainment. The issue is the continuation of gender roles for men but women get to pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:15 PM
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Both parties get half of the assets each. That’s fair. No the preson that is being divorced is losing half of the things . We don’t have alimony in my country. We do in the US. . I just don’t get why you’re so fired up about marriage if you don’t want to do it? I do want to get married. That is why I have a strong stance. Is it that you wish you could marry but only if you could force a woman not to leave? No. I take things like marriage seriously. And it is a commitment you don't just leave bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:56 PM
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And they don't believe in marriage and no one should marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:48 PM
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The benefit is not being with that person anymore. The benefit is half of the martial assets and alamony to maintain your lifestyle. If a person gives that up ok. You can have both no fault and fault divorce at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:42 PM
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As a small part of the factors, no they would not. But if you leave because you are bored, you don't believe in marriage in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:36 PM
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Why should you get benefits for breaking the contract. , if no fault divorce was removed, people could still just leave without getting divorced That would be abandonment and you could get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:21 PM
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To find a partner to help navigate life and to raise kids. If you getting married to be entertained you messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:13 PM
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Don't get married or bring back fault divorce for things like this ( includes domestic violence and cheating).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:57 PM
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For dating sure but for marriage they did in fact sing a contract. And being bored is not a sufficient reason to break that contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:29 PM
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Her point is that those men don't want relationship. But the two are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:15 PM
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So you are mad about her being right? She is not right because she automatically assumes men want the same thing. She doesn't want to have any discussion. Besides using a hook up to determine if a person is into you doesn't preclude you from wanting a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:48 PM
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We don't need it every day from a person not interested in discussion because she has already made up her mind.if you would like to see a discussion you can make that post. She just wants to say men bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:26 PM
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No you don't. You just assume people's positions so you can fight the strawmen you created.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:59 PM
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It is Literally the same post every day. You are not getting closer to understanding because that requires asking questions and listening to the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:48 PM
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I really think there needs to be a limit here. Op is just making the same post every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:45 PM
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We are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:52 PM
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Yes. Just remember to show interest in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:52 PM
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Which includes VETTING. You know, the thing guys here wont stop bitching about? How about engage with me and not the group .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:19 PM
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I have seen it often. But If you did how would you handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:18 PM
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Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:54 PM
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And what if they start blaming men, do you stop them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:39 PM
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Except you guys are clearly talking about immediate sex, which is the point of hookups, not relationships Once again you lump me in with others but refuse to find out any information. I am not responsible for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:29 PM
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The issue is op assumes any man struggling is only looking for hookups. She doesn't want to ask men what their intentions are because it hurts that assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:09 PM
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You are saying that men going up to a woman and says I would like to hookup with you, are getting that. We all know that is not how it works. All the men you do get hookup tell men not to do that. It is about making a woman feel seen and safe. Show me the proof you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:00 PM
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the men getting hook ups are asking for them either. This backs up my claim. Not it doesn't. That is a claim not proof. You guys refuse to be upfront about your intentions with women I am a single person. You don't know how I interact or what my intentions are. Haters are gonna hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:28 PM
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I don't know what you mean by "you guys". You don't know my intentions. Never even bothered to ask. I also noticed you have not disproven my claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:15 PM
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She can't do that because she knows the men getting hook ups are not asking for them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:43 PM
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There are plenty of us that would. He is the catch, you don't want to be in relationships with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:41 PM
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I have seen women say they were being empathetic but really were dismissive and trying to make the situation about themselves or women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:31 PM
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Are you pointing out bad stats? Things like those stupid shirts for little girls that shit on boys. Devaluing men's continuations. Assume men got a position just because they are men. Plenty others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:20 PM
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What separates a romantic relationship and platonic one is sexual intimacy. The platonic side has to be there but without the sexual intimacy why are we just not friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:09 AM
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How common do you think it is? Because I know at least a handful of men that would date women like in your example but those women don't give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:23 PM
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It’s like men having sympathy for an average woman expecting Chad to commit to her for a relationship. Do you have sympathy for women who complain about this? Sympathy not really depending on the situation . But I have empathy for them. I get where they are coming from. And if they want advice I will give it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 03:09 PM
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I can have and show empathy to people if I don't fully understand. Not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:22 PM
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It is not about seeing the benefits( if there are any), it is about being empathetic towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:09 PM
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Wrong. We don't like being told we are lesser. By having a long list of things we need to do before sex that is what you are saying. And if I take the women's perspective of the husband guy is better, why are you treating him worse. The better guy should have less hoops than the other one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:20 PM
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What is that perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:03 PM
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This is your logic. But it seems like you can't answer because you don't have any empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:58 PM
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So it is ok to dismiss and not see the perspective of a person because it is an emotional response? Sounds like a bad idea for women. So what is the perspective of men on this issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:53 PM
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Best to be both but if you can't hook up is better. Why can't women see men's perspective here?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:27 PM
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Why are so many men attracted to hypocrites? We all know that you can tell a person is a hypocrite by looking at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 10:59 AM
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Nothing. I say dress warmer or start your own business to set the temperature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:18 PM
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You haven't proved that you understand what direct communication is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:42 PM
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I will find your question illogical. I would have no way of knowing they would be a good friend without first interacting with them so I would interact with them based on something I had a general interest in. My intention there is to have a good conversation about a specific thing. If it turns out we have the same ideas about things but then we go to friendship. You guys clearly I don't think understand what direct communication is because you keep going right to the extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 04:13 PM
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Open clear Communication is what you do in a health relationship. That is what you do with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:52 PM
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"I like you and want to have sex" and "want sex" are the same thing, in that what you WANT is still "sex from her". The former is just "beating around the bush" more than the latter, You don't know what beating around the bush means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:27 PM
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Saying I like/love you and would like to have sex. Is direct communication. Not beating around the bush. Why not use that example. My criticism is saying you want direct communication but not actually wanting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:22 PM
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The interesting thing about social nuance is HOW you do communicates just as much as what words you use. And you are showing none here. By using the example of "want fuck"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:16 PM
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But by definition that is not clear communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:09 PM
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By beating around the bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:31 PM
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It is their burden to prove the thing was misogyny. Not just say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:18 PM
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And this is why claims of misogyny are dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:33 PM
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The issue is people have over used misogyny so now it basically just means things women don't like. When you get to the point of calling lines for the women's bathroom and air conditioning in office buildings misogyny people stop listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:21 PM
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Ok but that is not what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:55 AM
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Are they willing to take a sip of the fruity drink when offered to taste it? So if I don't want to take a sip of something I am insecure? That is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:17 AM
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I guess it's all about positive vs negative intentions. No. It is about your perception of their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 03:06 AM
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You refuse to see the other side. Can you steel man their position?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:15 AM
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You refuse to see the other side. You prove the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:07 AM
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And women don’t have the right to their bodies? What other scenario would allow someone else to use your body w/o ur consent? They did, they had sex. You are proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:06 AM
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You believing that being against abortion makes you misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:05 AM
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Most of the time it is not misogyny just a disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:53 AM
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You miss the point here. If the baby is a person it has rights. You are arguing from your pov not what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:50 AM
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That has not been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:44 PM
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A straight man who isn’t into any stereotypically female things at all can still be secure in his sexuality. Never seen this said ever. This is always used to say they are insecure about those things. I’m just personally attracted to men who don’t adhere rigidly to gender norms and are very secure about it. Not trying to attack your preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:41 PM
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A straight man that is into typical male things are not seen as succure in their masculinity or sexuality. It is only if the straight man is into typical female things that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:07 PM
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I find that people say this only if the man likes transitionaly feminate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:57 PM
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The op wasn’t about male children being raped it is about if consent to sex is consent to parenthood And this is very on topic. It seems that the general take is once a woman is pregnant men have no say. This issue of male rape victims being forced into it shows whether there is a limit to that idea or not. Your questions about rape laws for women or if I care about women that are raped are not on topic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:53 AM
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Or is it only in the case of male children and presumably teachers being rapists that you care about? This is a shaming tactic. We are talking about one specific thing here. If you want make a post about rape in general. What have you done? Educated people on the issue. Openly advocated for the change. And sent emails to representatives. I think this is a highly fringe issue you are talking about here. And this is a tactic to dismiss the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:40 AM
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It could be something even as simple as mandating rape kits be tested immediately rather than sitting untested for years. That would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:36 AM
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Are you helping to fight the law for women to have their rape cases more easily proved? What laws are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:32 AM
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So you will help fight the current law then? The case law is built on children being raped by adults. A child can't consent so it is always rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:14 AM
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We both know you are not dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 01:02 AM
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And if it fails? So you are against equity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:54 AM
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I was just making it very clear for everyone else. When you bring it up get defections or a half assed that shouldn't happen. They don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:44 AM
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I am just asking. So you are anti abortion. I disagree but respect that you have a consistent standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:42 AM
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Should men and boys that are raped be able to opt out?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:40 AM
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And I would have no problem with this and it is always part of the idea. It is about equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:36 AM
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This is what happens now. Boys and men that are raped have to pay their rapist child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:35 AM
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Both parties would be responsible then. So both have to live with that consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:28 AM
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How it should be. But we have to be careful about how we write the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:25 AM
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Notice how you didn't show any empathy here. Look at where the political trend is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:54 PM
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Wasting your time here. Most women refuse to see this from a Man's side and show any empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 10:38 PM
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Maybe I am crazy but I would rather be moral and have no sex than have sex and be immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:25 PM
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I have never seen that in reality. It is always their perception. They don't see the contribution of their partner. I will grant it happens in a very small number of cases at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:06 PM
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a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group. Seems like a privilege to me..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:03 PM
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It's like there can be two different groups or people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:30 PM
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Mostly after the woman complains about not getting a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:25 PM
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You treat colleagues one way, dating partners another, family another Those are different categories not the same one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:22 PM
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You can decide that yourself like you have. I am saying that is not a justification to treat a person worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:07 PM
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Everything requires justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 02:02 PM
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This doesn't justify acting worse towards a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:51 PM
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Who said they should? The problem is women can't get both worlds and they hate it. They want all the traditional things that benefit them and all the nontraditional things that benefit them. And if you are a man not doing that you are not pulling your weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:20 PM
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I have had this conversation with her before. She doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:16 PM
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As an autistic person I can tell you it is my empathy that makes it hard to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:15 PM
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This is the stupidest post I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 08:19 PM
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Ultimately it is what it is. But I think it's important to have these kinds of discussions to showcase to others a couple of things. One being how not to argue your point. Another is to fully develop your theory before releasing it to people. And lastly I think it shows others who are arguing / having disagreements with people to identify characteristic of a person who is arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:40 PM
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Once again reusing to answer. You always do this when it hurts your claim. It is related because you listed out actions that when you don't do them, you claim shows a man doesn't want a relationship. This question goes right to the heart of that claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:21 PM
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Refusing to answer the question. Do women that don't engage in the behaviors you describe as showing you want a relationship, want a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:12 PM
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It just seems like this person I don't know if it's a man or a woman doesn't like when you criticize women. Criticizing woman or a man doesn't make you sexist. This is just kind of what happens when you display a low level of benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:07 PM
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I am asking because you made a claim based on gender that was really just about actions that have nothing to do with gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:00 PM
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So only men can show they don't want a relationship. And every woman wants one regardless of how they act. This looks more like hatred of men than it is about a standard of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:42 AM
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Real life all the time. No gifts , no taking interest in their dates interests, don't ever initiate anything. And when you talk to them about it they push back on the idea they have to do those things. If that is the standard for wanting a relationship then they don't want one. They just want a person to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:40 AM
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Op called me a bigot for disagreeing with them. Don't know if they are the person to make statements on sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:26 AM
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I am not saying anything about that, but her baseless claims about men not doing/wanting to do relationship things. The same things I see women also refusing to do. So if women are not doing those things, do they want relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:23 AM
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Where? I don't see any evidence in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:55 AM
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I can prove it just as much as op. And once she proves it I will provide the evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:30 AM
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If women want a relationship why are they not doing those things you listed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:41 AM
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I like to debate. In terms of advice why do women listen to bad advice. Because it already supports their ideas. If you think men should go elsewhere for advice, where is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:26 PM
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It happens sometimes but most of the time it is an excuse to be a shitty girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 07:44 PM
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I can only give the perspective of trying to date. But yes I have. Why would you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:42 PM
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I would say the issue is women see men that display low levels of benevolent sexism to be just as sexist if not more than men that display high levels of hostile sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:38 PM
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lot more people in general weaponizing therapy terms they don’t really understand or care to. I see women do this way more than men. Easy to spot after reading the literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 12:36 PM
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This is the best I can find. Self reporting with no definition. The issue with cheating is there is not a concert definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:40 PM
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And a man is free to walk away. You are all acting like we're forcing you to stay and hate every "chore" that comes with it. This is a strawman. No one is arguing this( at least I am not).Just pointing out the issue. Are you going to answer my questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:38 PM
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I don't hate relationships. When are comparing two things. Do you expect a hook up to be emotionally available? Do you expect a hook up to bail you out of a hard time? Do you expect a hook up to take care of you when sick? When you tell a man he is husband material you tell them you won't have sex with him without these things. Why are you providing to them that is different than a hookup? I am assuming you are having sex with both men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:31 PM
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While I agree being husband material is not a compliment I don't really agree with the rest. The reason it is worse because it places you in a place to have to provide more than others. So extra responsibility without any upside .
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:48 PM
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The numbers I am seeing are 20% men and 13% women over all. With the 18 to 29 age range being men at 10% and women at 11%.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:43 PM
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Men are just saying that they wouldn't count a woman out if they had those things. Those things are extra so if you don't have debt stuff like that it's like okay that's really cool, its an extra thing but that doesn't make you attractive for a relationship. Everything being equal you would take the woman without debt versus the woman with debt but if the woman with that is overall better you're not going to be like well I'm not going to date this lady because she has debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:51 AM
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Your questions don't require that. Especially because when you asked you used the word "you". That would imply me and my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:07 PM
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I have answered your questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:58 PM
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You have to prove it exists in the first place. That is your burden. Men do want sympathy and empathy because it leads to better outcomes. The same reason women want those things. You are burying the premise with extra questions. You believe it happens and the response is negative. You have the provided proof for that claim. So there needs to be proof that women show sympathy and empathy to men AND when they do it is met with a negative response.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:24 PM
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If I was rejected why would I try again? Are you saying she rejects them, sees a good response and then at some point asks the man out?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:15 PM
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I have never seen a man get sympathy or empathy and have that reaction. I see women mock men and act like they are doing those two and getting negative responses. Can you provide examples of when a woman gave men sympathy/empathy ( one of each would be nice) and received a negative response?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:06 PM
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Because it is demanded by women (men towards women). And you have to give something to get something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:56 PM
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It seems to me that most people can't hold a conversation. And the real issue here is women want men to put more effort into the conversation than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:52 PM
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What is average? You have to define that term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:41 PM
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I don't see the difference you are trying to make. They are still a protector.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:33 AM
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Everything you talk about in regards to not holding a conversation is every conversation I have on a dating app with a woman. Definitely not a gendered issue. And it takes two people to have a conversation. I'm not going to pull teeth just to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 09:58 PM
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Just a question on this. Do you believe that for every sociological study?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:39 PM
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Most people don’t have high body counts, tho. They’re a minority already. I never said that most did. Just because a trait is shown in a minority of people doesn't mean I'm not going to keep that in mind when picking a partner. Like I don't think most people are bipolar but that would definitely play into whether or not I wouldn't be with a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:38 PM
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I think there's a level of lifestyle compatibility that can be derived from it but it's not a foolproof system. Generally speaking if you're a person who's going to have a higher body count you are going to engage in a lifestyle that is more likely to have you going out multiple times a week do things like parties and clubs. A person with a lower body generally speaking is going to have a more homebody type lifestyle. Are these 100% guarantees no but it is definitely something to factor in when …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:14 PM
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I did in fact describe it as a lifestyle incompatibility. That's not misogynistic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:10 PM
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I'm not arguing any of that. I'm arguing that there are in fact reasons that are not misogynistic that is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:08 PM
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I have no issues. But there are in fact reasons that are not misogynistic for not wanting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:07 PM
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I have seen so many examples of men rejecting a woman simply by saying no. And then everyone's going to ask him why, why did you say no. People do not respect men's no they always want the reason behind it and no matter what reason you give it's going to be the wrong reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:01 PM
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No it is you moving the goal post and asking me to defend a position I never held.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:59 PM
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Notice you changed the statement to ask the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:56 PM
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People push because apparently a no from a man is not good enough or a full sentence like it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:48 PM
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Yes there is. "I haven't slept with women in the past and by doing so they wouldn't have a lifestyle I feel is compatible with mine. "
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:47 PM
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Exactly. It is all about what you provide not who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:42 PM
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Your point one says men not red pill men. So you are talking about men asking the question not red pill men. Also you just say man/men in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:38 AM
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I think the issue is that the advice has two issues. The first is a misunderstanding of the question. So men ask for dating advice but get relationship advice. Those are different. The first is more about getting dates and the second is how to make a relationship last. The second is I see some women give advice that works if they are already into the person. I don't think this is done on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:06 PM
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How would you know? Because I have actual conversations with them. The redpill arent even good judge of character. They think people can only be assholes if theyre cheating felons. This is moving the goal post. That is not the group we are talking about. So do you have proof that men who ask about getting into a relationship don't have basic communication skills or don't shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:37 PM
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I am saying most people that are asking the question have the basics like that. Can you provide proof they don't? I won't assume a woman asking the question can't do the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:12 PM
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What does that have to do with my post? It attacks the premise because you like many are conflating two different things. Do you truly think people want to get into relationships with someone who can’t even hold a converstion and is quick to be offensive? No. But you need more than that to get into a relationship. And men are asking that question. Not how to maintain an already existing one. So do you want to have a discussion or do you want to move the goal post like you do every time you get c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:56 PM
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You are wrong from the beginning. Men are not asking for relationship advice but how to get a relationship. They are fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:28 AM
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That is not initiating. That is waiting at a place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:57 PM
2

It would be all things on getting a girlfriend because I have no way of knowing which area is causing the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 07:44 PM
2

I am asking you directly. You implied you have advice to give. So I would like to know what that advice is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:19 PM
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You kind of have to share interests with the other person to have a meaningful conversation they find interesting. No you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:12 PM
4

So he is not so great that women are asking him out. It is all you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:09 PM
1

So the things most of us are already doing with no success.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 01:00 PM
2

I am constantly looking for advice. But the advice is always bad or things I already do. But you can't tell people giving you advice that because then they go to you don't really want help. This is because they believe in the just world fallacy. If you were doing the thing I would get the outcome. But since I am not I must not be. So what is your advice to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:55 PM
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First off dating apps are not skewed against women. It is the opposite. I can tell you I am consistently trying to build connections with women because I am romantically lonely. They don't even want to get to know you as a person. This includes apps and real life. You have two groups the ones that treat you as invisible and those that use you for attention. Then when you go to get help you are told you must be a creepy asshole. Because women are always willing to get to know people before the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 12:35 PM
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And at best feminist do the same thing but you don't care about that. It is evident because you never make posts about them. You are a perfect example of society hating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 02:54 PM
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I am responding to the given information and you are changing it because you know it proves the argument I was making. If it didn't you would not have been charging what she said. Thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:07 PM
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That is not what was said. It was directly that they were not attractive. That is not, I don't find them attractive. That is making an object claim. Stop changing what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:57 PM
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It is the first one, saying all the men there are unattractive. You have changed the meaning of what she has said with your second one. But this is what I am saying you would definitely not use the second one for a man saying all the women at the events were unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:36 PM
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Sorry but women at the very least also don't understand the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:29 PM
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The real question is why a lot of women change up their response based on the gender of the person. So If a plane dude didn't want a plane woman he would get called out. But they don't do that for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:12 PM
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Only brought up about rape not other things. No one says everyone is a friend to a cheater for example. The 92% of rapists are men if often brought up. Says nothing about general population. The 1/6 women have experience rape or attempted rape but only 1/36 men. This excludes that have experienced rape or tempted rape by women. In the data it's described as made to penetrate and is not counted as rape. That number is 1/9 men. It is from the exact same study the 1/6 statistics come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:07 AM
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I gendered a conversation that you had already gendered there bud. I did not. So how about this. If you feel like chatting, why not actually talk to ME about MY points and opinions, as opposed to arguing with the paper tiger you've created out of your assumptions of other people's intent. You asked me a direct question and I answered it. But now you don't want to talk about it. This is not the only place or time the conversation has taken place. So if you want to talk , how about you address my …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 02:11 AM
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assume that anything negative people say about any portion of a demographic that they are a part of, assume that that automatically causes the criticism to apply to them personally? This is not an assumption but what is in fact being said. You need to look at everything not just the phrase. It only brought up about rape and not about other things. That is strike one. Strike two it is only brought up about men as rapists. Many of these people quote the 92% stat and the 1/6 vs 1/36 start. The fist…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:59 PM
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It's simply about awareness, not blame. It is 100% used to blame men for supporting rapists and making all men guilty of the crime of others. If it wasn't they would talk about how to handle it. I suspect it is because a lot of people refuse to call out their friends. Like I see I lot more women supporting their cheating friend or family then man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:03 PM
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No that is counted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:57 PM
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No. Looking at the numbers. At best it is not as bad as a definition that makes it impossible for women to rape a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:21 PM
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(not sure why you're saying women specifically), They are statistically more likely to abuse children. So the same argument can be made.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:56 PM
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How do you know that your female friends aren't abusing children? This is such a stupid talking point. What matters is what you do after finding out a person has low morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:32 PM
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They are often one sided, with the man putting in all the work while the woman fights to keep the man single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:25 PM
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Nothing because both are meaningless terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 12:23 PM
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He rejected her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:35 PM
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What is the issue? It is very telling you won't say. Edit: A week later and no answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:12 PM
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It is. But you just want to feel good by saying pull yourself up by your boot straps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:22 PM
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And that is the fault of society and it is society that needs to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:19 PM
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That is sexist. Women are just as susceptible but as a society we have made it wrong to punish women for the sins of other women. But we allow it for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:49 PM
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I love how many women tell men they are violent raping pieces os shit and it is men's fault they hate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:36 PM
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I'm not moralizing anything You did by the way you phrased the question. I removed attractive from the criteria No you didn't. You removed physically attractive. You still kept in attractiveness. And men are still admitting that most men lack most of the other qualities that makes a a man a good man to partner with as well. Those traits don't signify someone is good or not. They are attraction triggers whether or not you want them to be your partner. Which shows it isn't looks holding most men b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:11 PM
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The issue is you are moralizing it by using good instead of datable. Most of that list has nothing to do with being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:25 AM
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All right well I am done cuz clearly you don't want to stay on the topic of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:35 PM
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A good bit. But the thing is we don't generally pick a partner based on a singular attribute. Is the best matrix of different things and preferences. So a man couldn't prefer his girlfriend be virgin but the woman who puts more effort in let's say to the relationship but isn't a virgin is going to be easier time finding a partner than a woman who's a virgin and doesn't put any effort in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:26 PM
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That is not at all what this conversation is about thus you are derailing it. If you want to make a post about the changing of beauty standards for women go ahead and I will possibly talk about it there but I want to stick on the topic here. The topic is that women on a generalized basis do not understand what it is to be a bodybuilder. Thus in their minds it only counts when someone is at the extreme end. Like they are going to be forming at a competition. The men that they're saying hey look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 11:18 PM
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We're talking about a generalized position here. Not individual people or individual women. Like I've had women tell me they're into dad bods and then they show you pictures of people who are clearly regularly in the gym. The issue is women don't actually know what a bodybuilding body looks like. They assume that that is the body of a stage performer in bodybuilding. That is a tiny minority of bodybuilders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:48 PM
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I don't understand why you didn't make your own posts for this. You're derailing the conversation. If you like to actually comment on what I said here I will gladly continue this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:22 PM
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Lying is a deliberate act.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:33 PM
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Because that is not reality. The guys women use as good build are in fact bodybuilders. They just didn't go on the extreme in size.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 09:18 PM
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All the time. Everything that goes wrong is always my fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:50 PM
9

It is the opposite most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:44 PM
3

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:48 PM
0

You infact do because since I don't have the right ones I can't be blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:31 PM
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Maybe people need to realize people can have different opinions. Also maybe look into a topic before talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:11 PM
3

Probably the only thing I agree with you on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 03:00 PM
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The National Organization for Women (NOW) strongly opposes default 50/50 custody laws. The organization lobbies against legislation that would mandate "shared parenting" as a default in all divorce cases, arguing it is not in the best interest of all children and can be dangerous for victims of domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:19 PM
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Not true. Plus they shouldn't have to fight for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:03 PM
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The National Organization for Women (NOW) strongly opposes default 50/50 custody laws. The organization lobbies against legislation that would mandate "shared parenting" as a default in all divorce cases, arguing it is not in the best interest of all children and can be dangerous for victims of domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:02 PM
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The National Organization for Women (NOW) strongly opposes default 50/50 custody laws. The organization lobbies against legislation that would mandate "shared parenting" as a default in all divorce cases, arguing it is not in the best interest of all children and can be dangerous for victims of domestic abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:02 PM
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My clam is woman are the biggest. Now the biggest womens group is against it and always fights against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:51 PM
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Asking the wrong question. Why should they have to fight to have their prenatal rights upheld ? In my state it is about 70% fight for it. This is based on cases that require a trial and is not already agreed to. They get some form of custody 93% of the time but there is no break down of time distribution. The standard is every other weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:48 PM
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Happy hours, Oktoberfests, triva nights, karaoke, etc Those are not single events. At best they are events with singles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:27 PM
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It's a federally criminal act to not sign up for selective service. So if you don't sign up for selective service you lose your right. That is on federal crimes work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:44 PM
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Men stopped going to dating events because women don't generally want to date men that need them. So the men are paying to go and be rejected. We can do that for free already.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:42 PM
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You have to sign up for selective service to get the privilege of voting as a man. Only women have the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:27 PM
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The US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:22 PM
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Many is not all. Men are not automatically given 50/50 cuts today than to go to court to fight them possibly get it and so they have to spend tens of thousands of dollars. And when they do fight they are most likely going to be awarded some version of shared custody that is not actually 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:07 PM
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National organization of women are against 50/50 custody. And they're not the only woman's group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:06 PM
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The biggest one being your right to vote. Men's right to vote is directly tied into selective service.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:51 AM
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There are the biggest opponents to 50/50 custody after divorce. And they are the biggest opponent of automatically giving men rights to their children if they are not married to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:39 AM
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I don't see conservatives blocking men's paternal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:25 AM
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It is not being drafted itself but all the rights you lose if you don't sign up. Women get those rights automatically men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:24 AM
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Why are you conflating a philosophy and ethical system with some of the people who practice it? They can't be separated when having a conversation about the effects. You want to have the communism debate. Where communism is perfect but never enacted correctly so it's never actually communism. You automatically demonize one side, when the narrative is oppressed and oppressor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:08 AM
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If you actually paid attention to feminism, you would know they do in fact attack men for being men. Unless you want to use the no true Scotsman fallacy. Feminism is a lose ground of people that has no official membership. If you say you are a feminist you are a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:59 AM
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I don't think you have much experience with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:34 PM
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It is one of two reasons. The type of men you match or you don't have enough detail in your profile. It also doesn't work out for men. I basically get no matches. I always go for a profile focused opener. I will maybe get a single response and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:32 PM
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It is the prisoner's dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:29 PM
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I am just stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 11:59 AM
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No. What matters is does she allow me to enjoy my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:25 AM
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I have but that has nothing to do with picking a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:21 AM
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Why does it matter if a partner is boring or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:26 AM
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Men aren't looking for women to entertain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:42 PM
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I have been looking into it but it seems like most of the time you have to book a session before you can see the price. And the most I see expect a base line of already being able to get a date. Trying to find solutions that are not thousands of dollars a month. If you have a recommendation I will take a look. My therapist has yet to talk to me in the two weeks since that solution was proposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:17 PM
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I went into therapy to fix the problems I had. That means getting an outside perspective and solutions that are actionable. Like you, I am on the spectrum. There has been no help with finding solutions that I can implement. If you genuinely went into therapy thinking that your therapist would just take over and fix every problem you have in your life, This is the problem right here. Where did I say this? I went for a specific reason. There has been no solution. But you can't say that because you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 03:48 PM
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Sorry but I (and many others) don't want to manage a problem, we want it solved. Notice how I said “the right therapist,” and not “every therapist.” This is a cop out. Do you know a therapist that teaches people (especially men) how to date? Tell me these strategies that are going to make me not depressed because of a lack of a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:42 PM
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That doesn't resolve the underlying problem thus you are not helping. I have been doing different forms of therapy for a year and a half at this point. For depression brought on by romantic loneliness. There has been no change. Can't regulate out people in romantic relationships because it is everywhere. And it has been shown that trying not to think of something increasing you thinking about it. It has gotten to the point my current therapist thinks I need a dating coach not therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:30 PM
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This is only a thing if you have a maladapted thought process. If you have a real world issue causing your issues they can't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:57 PM
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Then why did you include it in the examples of rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:04 PM
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In the US it comes down to rape being defined as penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:58 PM
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You can withdraw consent any time during the act. You can not withdraw it retroactively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:56 PM
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A lot of men got influenced by red pill ideology and mgtardism, It was actually feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:48 PM
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Not wanting to pay has nothing to do with wanting to enjoy time with someone. The fact you think it does show you are entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:45 PM
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No one said asocial females are fine. Being introverted doesn't mean you are asocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:09 AM
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Can't talk about populations without using average as part of that discussion. The old “Bill Gates enter a room with 10 homeless people, on average they’re all billionaires” joke? It is not a joke but a way to get people to understand how data can be skewed. It is a reason why you have to look at a study in total not just the abstract and results.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:46 AM
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See how the person said having multiple groups of friends? Not having friends that go out. Multiple groups of friends would make you an extrovert.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:45 AM
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I just think it’s weak that you hide behind your autism instead of trying to improve yourself. This is quite the leap. You have to know about an issue to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:28 AM
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think “I’m not like other girls”, I don’t wear makeup, I only eat pizza and burgers), So a girl that likes things you don't is a pick me? I grew up when girls was getting called a pick me for liking things some other girls didn't like. No one got shamed out of liking things or having different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:35 AM
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So they do exist in your mind but can't be "nice girls" because the end goal is not sex. All a "nice" person is is a person that acts nice to get something they are looking for. There is a whole sub for them r/nicegirls. I would say there are very few pick me's if any. It's just an insult for women that don't agree with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:47 PM
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Thanks for conceding my points about relationship status as number of partners. I have not. Sexual patterns and being married are not a one for one. That data is from 2006 to 2008. So 17 years old. It has little to no relevance now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:26 PM
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Did you notice that the data in that study is of sexually experienced men and women and not all men and women? That would leave out anyone with zero. Meaning the number is skewed upwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:39 PM
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The data you are referencing is skewed by the results at the extreme positive end. Example: in a group of 100 men one man couldn't have slept with 300 people and the other 99 slept with zero their average would be three. That data set is better represented by using the median and not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:05 PM
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That was an example. 80% of the stories I hear about men being creepy it is men that are doing normal things but are being perceived as creepy for reason external to them or the actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:02 PM
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It is the provided they do not act creepy part. That is largely based on appearance. What you find to be an attractive appearance is not what ever women finds to be attractive. Most of the time it is not because the are doing things like corner a woman at night in a dark alley.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:50 PM
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It is very helpful. That is the definition of average based on objective data. It works here because this is the man that is struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:47 PM
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No, I'm using normal to mean normal: conforming to a standard. That standard is being extroverted. A lot of the guys here have said they don't have any actual friends, just people they talk to online. How are online friends not real friends? I can't tell if you're trolling or just didn't read what I said. Go back and try again lol This is a genuine question. It is called the halo and horns effect. I did in fact read what you said. I am challenging the notion they were in fact creepy but in fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:45 PM
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I've seen guys post photos of themselves here and they absolutely would get laid in at least several of my social circles, provided they didn't act like creeps And you realize a lot of the time this is dictated by appearance and not actions? And that generates a feed back loop. Most of the men here seem remarkably anti-social. What do you mean by remarkably anti-social? The men here seem to think that they aren't required to behave like normal people in order for people to like them What do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:27 PM
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In the US they are 5'9"/200lbs/ makes about 50k a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:15 PM
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100% exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 07:59 PM
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They don't have to. And men don't have to give it to them. They have two options. Settle or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:36 PM
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She’s not being literal with her first point Where is your evidence for that? Based on all of the other posts that is the correct reading. proving her 1st point if you’re also a misogynistic loser, which seems quite likely to me based on the law of averages around here. Do you have any evidence of that? But you can train yourself to learn conversation cues that you don’t understand, look at people’s eyes more, etc. Conversation cues and social cues are different. It seems you don't understand au…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 10:02 AM
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How about we listen and believe men when they tell you they are lonely because lack on romantic connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:18 PM
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This conversation always boils down to men having to deal with the consequences of their actions, women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:14 PM
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Not really an argument just saying I haven't heard it. What I usually hear of them argue in that case of birth rates it's more that certain cultures are more focused on the family than others and I don't think that fits the mold of discrimination cause this thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:38 PM
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I am never heard anyone on the right use that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:28 PM
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Just saying that is the progressive argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:58 PM
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This just seems to be going on the argument that differing outcomes can only be due to discrimination That is the argument of progressives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:23 PM
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If I didn't see what you bring to being a wife you are at best a forever girlfriend but most likely single.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:08 PM
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What you're doing is ableism and the soft bigotry of low expectations. Actually it is not. I am working with the limitations we have. You have no understanding of autism. Is not expect a person in a wheelchair to climb stairs ableism? They could, they just have to work harder. How about you demonstrate an understanding of autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:14 PM
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You didn't actually start facts. Autism is defined by the struggle to form social bonds based on the inability or struggle to identify social cues. They can learn to mask, what the correct social thing is, and possible read overt social cues. They are not going to learn to read social cues like a normal person. Because the issue is neurologicaly built in. This very base line understanding is enough to show you don't know anything. Don't even need to go further in depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:33 PM
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Doesn't change the fact you don't know anything. It is clearly evidence but the fact you don't know what the defining characteristic of autism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 01:20 PM
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She has no clue how autism works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:31 PM
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You clearly know nothing about autism. S you should stop talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:29 PM
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The problem is they don't want to validate their partner back. Now I am going to make a leap and say that is why they are still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:26 PM
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The difference is I assume men are not saying your social politeness is a turn on. I have heard women say emotional intelligence is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 11:23 PM
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No. He came off matter of fact. He would been in his right to be harsher and call her a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 10:49 PM
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And you say men can't tell when people do wrong. She shot her shot in a creepy manner. The man rejected her. She got all offended and stormed off. That is a classic "nice guy" move.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:02 PM
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Let's pretend this is real. She just did some nice guy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:40 PM
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Honestly I would take that over my current situation but it is not ideal. I much rather have a loving relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 12:45 PM
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Well you didn't challenge the point. Are you going to?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:54 AM
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So you agree the stats are misleading and they never learned how to read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:50 AM
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They picked the bear because of the misleading stats they are told and never learned to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 01:06 AM
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I don't know how to paint a beautiful picture, but I know when a picture isn't beautiful. Sure and if you can't articulate why it is not beautiful you should not answer the question of why it is not beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:55 PM
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Ok. For anyone reading I will look at studies you have on this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:23 PM
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That is not evidence. We have your perception. I am willing to listen to the facts that you have to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:17 PM
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I think I gave a definition for flirting. Fair enough. If someone wants me to explain various techniques, I can in fact do that too, but I didn't think it the point. I bring it up because you said you did that. The post is about people that can't explain it telling people they are doing it wrong and when asked to explain they say it can't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:15 PM
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You didn't explain how to flirt you just gave a list of things related to flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:56 PM
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But the question here is why engage with the question on how to flirt if you can't explain it. Leave it to the people that can.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 03:33 PM
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That is one form of it. You have done another.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:46 PM
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Your whole first paragraph is projecting what others have asked for on to the op.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:38 PM
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It is motivated by the effort the woman is putting in. Just like you would put less effort into a friendship where the other person puts in less effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:22 AM
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abhorrent vibes/attitudes/demeanor online and I guarantee it's not much different IRL There is no evidence for this. In fact it is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:18 AM
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. I dated three toxic men and when I sensed it I told them straight up. My last ex was emotionally abusive. So I told him „What you are doing is emotionally abusive That is not sensing. That is a direct action you witnessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:16 AM
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A lot of projecting you are doing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:14 AM
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You have not explained flirting but a normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:10 AM
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I mean it's like explaining why do dogs freak out about some people and not others. Not that hard to explain, just predicting the reaction to a particular individual is.You just don't know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 11:09 AM
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But you have not demonstrated that you know what makes flirting good or bad. So why join that particular conversation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:53 AM
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How about not participating in the conversation asking for those things to be explained then. Why the need to say stuff like you should just know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:48 AM
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No. I can always articulate why I felt uneasy or uncomfortable with a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:45 AM
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This is so true. And then they wonder why men are going to the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 10:41 AM
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And I can easily say the same about online groups for women. Some people suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 02:08 PM
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Social mimicking doesn't work here. This is why you use non w.e.i.r.d. groups and remote tribes as well. Now I will say not all studies are doing this. That is why you have to read the actual study.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 04:15 PM
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You forgot that you all put in effort if you are successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:44 PM
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That doesn't prove the point that is being made. One thing is on most dating apps you have to match before you get messages. So you are selecting for men that do that. Two the point that is being made by the dating app experiments is that your personality doesn't matter or that looks are the most important thing. So you have to make a profile where the man is average (statistically) or slightly below with what you believe to be the best personality. They would then have to get many matches and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:05 AM
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The whole purpose of using cross cultural studies with non w.e.i.r.d. groups is to isolate biology as the reason. If it wasn't a biological reason you would see different answers from the different cultures but that's not what we see.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:09 AM
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You would have to prove that there is a social reason for this that doesn't evolve biological reasons. You are making the assumption here. The only thing the people from different cultures have is biology. Testing across cultures is to isolate the variable of biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:37 PM
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and that assumptions are being made based upon similarities between the genders that are discovered cross-culturally. That is not an assumption. It is looking at data.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:19 PM
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Yes. But I need to see the study itself not just the abstract.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:13 PM
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If the man is unable to read social cues, It is not a social cue. That is all in your mind. Sorry but not wanting to bother someone has nothing to do with if you are confident or not. What you re talking about here is arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:43 PM
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It is not obvious. You and the many women like you just suck at communicating and instead of putting on your big girl panties and learning to communicate better you blame men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:14 PM
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That is not an obvious clue. Go back to dropping shit in front of men you want to talk to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:26 PM
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Is there one for Sony just calls out bullshit when he sees it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:24 AM
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They almost always pick a slim guy. The average man in the US is on the border line of overweight and obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:45 AM
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Cant tell height. No indication they are in a relationship. No indication they are overall average. Where is the proof? You have established this is what you think is average. All the people I know that look like this are single and can't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:29 AM
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Just admit you don't have any useful advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:50 AM
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You made a claim and have to prove evidence. You have not even defined average. So provide evidence of your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:45 AM
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My parents are not together never were. People around me are above average. Only high school friends married are above average. Give me examples of average couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:39 AM
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There are none because they know it won't work. They can't even accurately describe an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:54 PM
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Can you give examples of average couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:47 PM
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Literally all you have to do is just be yourself Worst advice ever. Doesn't work if you are not already in the category women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:45 PM
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Can you tell us what feminism and misogyny is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:59 PM
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Men bad, women good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:20 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:58 PM
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Tradcon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:43 PM
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Not historically but always and ever. If you are going to take on a talking point l, you should know what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:38 PM
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That's because they put a "chad" into the category.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:25 PM
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No. I treat friends the same regardless of gender. I am not sexist like the person in the clip.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:47 PM
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A shit one it seems but it is a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:08 PM
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Maybe for some. But for me it is the effort they put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:49 PM
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That would not be discrimination. Making it illegal would mean it is illegal for all people. And it would make the consequences of sex equal amongst patties.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 05:10 PM
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Giving your partner peace is love. So your question is formed wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:37 PM
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No I don't because that is not reality. It is a fiction you made up at best and a shared delusion with them at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:53 PM
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And those are not nice guys. Proving my point of you needing to do the research.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:43 PM
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Maybe you should stop making posts until you do the research.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:12 PM
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Bad examples are bad. That is not women these days. Also why could he go with an u ironed shirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:14 PM
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any penetration of a bodily orifice or use of an object by force, coercion, or when a victim is unable to consent due to age, intoxication, or other incapacity That is the definition that the CDC and others use for rape. See how it prevents women form raping men unless they use an object. That is how you get the statistic you are clinging to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:01 PM
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High maintenance to me doesn't mean that the woman look nice. It is a mindset. Is she willing to stay in? Is she looking for me to pay for her lifestyle? Dose she complain about the gifts I get her not being expensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:05 PM
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They want there to be equality with gender roles. Women have been liberated from gender roles and men have not. And there is no sign of men being released of their gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:19 PM
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As a man I have been taught the opposite. I am to downplay my emotions to help others (especially women) deal with theirs. I don't recognize the things feminist ( maybe you are not one) say about being a man. They have no clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:21 PM
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You don't know what autism is. You don't know the argument being made is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 11:27 AM
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It is easily observable. Just look at the shit Whoopi got for saying if you hit a man expect to get hit back .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:48 PM
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The issue is that women take less accountability on average than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 09:08 PM
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The hitting is just an example. I believe it is one of the biggest examples of women not taking accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:54 PM
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Value is always determined by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:31 PM
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As a man I have been shown I only have value when I am providing something for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:19 PM
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Go back to your bridge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:46 PM
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You are the biggest troll here. I refuse to believe these are your real opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:37 PM
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It is what happens when a person doesn't have principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:49 PM
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Can't even pretend long enough in your own post.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:25 PM
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Women are not a monolith and you are not the leader of the hive mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 04:06 PM
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So I couldn't convince you that an individual woman made a choice. And I couldn't show you it is happening over and over. It sounds like you are saying it is all in my(or individual persons) control. So which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:49 PM
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If it could be both am I allowed to blame women for their role?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:41 PM
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And would you assume those are in my control or out of my control?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:34 PM
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So if I started to complain about not getting dates, you would not automatically think I am not putting in effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:25 PM
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You sound biased in your thinking. That bias is that effort equals success. So if you are complaining about not having success you must not be putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:40 PM
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Care to show the proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:28 PM
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No. I have been shown repeatedly that my only value is what I provided to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:25 PM
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And they believe that Group is not responsible for their actions. It is the individuals that are responsible for their actions. So how is it that men take accountability more than women I see individual men own up and try to fix their mistakes more often than Individual women. then men wanna coddle these men, who also don’t take responsibility for themselves. Not happening. We are fighting against being responsible for others actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:23 PM
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I know plenty of women ( and men) in real life that will start shit and then play the victim. Example: a woman will hit a man and the play victim when he hits her back. Taking accountability would be understanding that if you physically attack a person they will defend themselves including hitting you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:08 PM
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No. You said when a GROUP of men is criticized an individual is not taking responsibility for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:04 PM
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You already fucked up in your first paragraph. You don't take accountability for the group. You take accountability for your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:51 PM
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Could I? Yes. Is every single man that approaches? No. And if I have not interacted with them before, assuming I do is just them treating me a particular way based on the actions of others. But if you think a guy coming up to you to say hi means he wants sex, you need to do some soul searching.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 05:02 PM
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No because I don't treat women or other groups as a monolith. If you are referring to my statement about women assuming men that approach are looking for sex, I have yet to hear a woman say that is not what they assume. They assume that but don't act on that assumption until there is evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:52 PM
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So no accountability for women treating men as a monolith? How do you approach without a woman assuming you are looking for sex? I have been told by women that it is just the act of approaching. Is it fair to believe you agree with my other points as you have not addressed them? If not why not addresse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:49 PM
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How does a woman I am approaching for the first time know anything about me? If it is the first time it by definition can't be a pattern. It is telling you skipped all of my other points and questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:33 PM
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So you would go on a date with a person you are not attracted to if they asked? And just to be clear you are ok with any man approaching you to shoot his shot? (Only asking about doing it. Not about if the approach itself would be ok. Like coming up and cat calling would be bad but is it the cat calling not the approach.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 01:29 PM
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Every conversation I have had on a date app has been me carrying the conversation. People assume unattractive men being nice are just pretending. Women assume if a man interacts with them l, the man is looking for sex. Are you trying to just world thinking? Are the men doing the things being told to them laying? Is the only evidence of effort success?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:55 PM
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Honestly if I knew someone who checks all my boxes I wouldn't mind approaching This implies you would mind if a person that didn't check all the boxes approached you. Are men supposed to read your mind to know if you mind or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:13 PM
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For me it is the focus on materialistic over personality. Like you didn't even list any personality traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:11 PM
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Who said I was ignoring them? We have yet to even talk about them. Still on your very bad definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 03:01 AM
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Not really. Keep up your unfalsifiable ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:58 AM
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What has the current Trump administration done to help men. I never said they did have policies. But they are at least pretending to want to help men by telling them it is ok to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:19 AM
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So we should remove protection from men accused of sexual crimes like the Obama administration did? We shouldn't have policies to increase the number of men in early childhood education? We should we keep the policy where a man is raped, he has to pay child support to his rapist? How about getting rid of the policies that make it so police arrest men that call for domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:01 AM
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Yes. The trade war hurts me. Making my pay for more taxes for services I can't use hurts me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:55 PM
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The lefts policies do not improve my economic situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:48 PM
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So tell me the left doesn't have any specific policies to help men? We have plenty of specific policies to help out women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:42 PM
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Yeah those are all general policies mostly of the rhetoric around them is about helping women. So where are the policies dedicated to helping men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:12 PM
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I am not saying the right is better. But they are the only ones that are at least pretending to listen and tell men it is ok to be men. Last presidential election the Left's message to men was to vote in the interest of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:50 PM
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Thanks for being part of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:33 PM
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It is not hijacking when you leave it alone because you don't give a shit. This is a left failing not a right win.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:26 PM
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I recommend Laura Kipnis’ “Unwanted Advances” for a feminist-friendly intro to some of the realities men face. Added to my reading list.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:21 PM
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That is not the definition. It revolves around all male self important content. Are those part of it yes. It is not the entirety. But you don't care about reality. You often disregard it to keep your narrative going.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:16 PM
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That is not manosphere. It is just a category to put all male centered content.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:08 PM
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She doesn't know what the term means. It is just her way of attributing something a small group says and puts it on a larger group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:47 PM
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Very true. I had many talks with women about this. All of them said that they would not date their boyfriend that they love his personality if he was shorter and overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:34 PM
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I see men being told to choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:06 PM
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You don't lose reputation by having a break up. Kissing your job or especially ostracized does that. The standard is different because the situations are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:53 PM
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how is being fired from a job or ostracized from 1 community, like a church, any worse than being broken up with? If you actually see no difference, you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:39 PM
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I would say yes. And I have seen plenty of red pill men say the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 09:23 PM
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Because I disregard the things the red pill doesn't have evidence for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:02 PM
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Well the pay gap is not a thing. And tell men they can't have an opinion on a topic because they are men is sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:37 PM
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How is this a pick me? She showed she cared and because of that she got married. People like you have basically turned pick me into a woman that likes or does things I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:01 PM
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Nobody wants to be someone’s “well, I guess this will do.” You are wrong here. Studies have shown that it is only women that think that. Men are happy and satisfied with a partner that has 75% of what they are looking for. Women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:47 PM
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The real answer is you are not allowed to have different opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:08 PM
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Intelligent Working a full time job Good communication Matching libido Working on some level of self improvement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:11 PM
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Lots of things. Don't like your posts or takes but hopefully it will happen for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:07 PM
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Your points are fine but they don't address what I said. Ask your wife to be a stay at home dad doesn't mean it is socially acceptable for men to do that. Needing to have two working people doesn't remove the gender role of be a provider. If the man is playing 70% and the woman 30% he is still being a provider. So if you would like to address my points please.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:24 PM
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Nice side step.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:11 AM
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How about making it an acceptable choice for a man to be a stay at home father? I've never heard anyone say a stay at home mother is a freeloading bum. How about eliminating the idea men should provide for their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:23 AM
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People are still fighting. But instead of fighting the actual problem they're fighting the feminist trying to stop them. But apparently you know all about men's groups that's why you believe no one's actually doing anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:46 AM
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No the feminist fought and took away their funding because they believe it is a zero-sum game so any money that goes to men's shelters means that women shelters don't get it. But hey it always has to be men's fault right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:35 AM
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It's very clear that you want to not actually do anything even though there's very clear and easy things you could do to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:17 AM
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Oh so it's men's fault when feminists show up and shut down shelters for men who have based domestic violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:16 AM
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You clearly know nothing about men's groups. They exist and do in fact help men that is when they're not fighting the feminist trying to shut them down. Because if you're not using any feminist lens you just so happen to be conveniently labeled misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:06 AM
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We definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:25 AM
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Are they victims of women physically, financially, or sexually abusing, We can start with the fact that if you are raped and your rapist has a child , you have to pay child support. But that is not what this post is about. Advocate for 3 spaces. Call out women that say every approach is creepy. Encourage women to make the first move. Dismantle male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:24 AM
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I don't really see this happening. I see it all the time. They use it as a moral litmus test.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:15 AM
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I fail to see why do you have problem with this. When did I say I have a problem? . Not wishing for a virgin partner and refusing someone for being a virgin is two different things. Sure. And plenty of women state that they won't date a virgin man, especially as he gets older. And that falls into the second one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 12:47 AM
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You have a movement called feminism that asked (and still does) men to help. Would you be ok with all men just saying not my problem? Is it crazy to ask for reciprocity? Or are women just allowed to take without giving anything back?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:43 PM
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How many women do you think say this out loud as a requirement when they are asked what they are looking for? I will give you one. And do you believe or have evidence to show it is more than the woman making fun of Virgin men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:30 PM
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I have never seen a woman say they wanted a virgin. Some say they don't care. Most are turned off by it. Especially as you get older. Society does put value on men that can get sex. So if you can't you are seen as a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:00 PM
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Still didn't address my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:42 PM
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Not going to address the point I made?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:03 PM
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Having limbs is actually very important for quality of live and wellbeing. And it has been shown that romantic relationships are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:45 PM
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They have lots of options. The limiting factor is themselves. They don't want to date the men because they want a man to make as much or more. I have also seen women that out earn the man they are dating, treat the men poorly then attribute the response they get to the man being upset the woman makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 01:31 PM
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Nothing wrong with waiting until the time is right For you. Sure but you don't get to complain that the good guys are gone. Decisions have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 07:41 PM
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Don't keep anyone in the back pocket. If you are having fun and find a good man, treat him like the fun guys and lock him down. And if you don't want to, don't complain there are no good men anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 02:45 PM
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I posted that as its own comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 01:59 PM
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What about her advice to women on sucking your man's dick to get him to help around the house?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:33 PM
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Very bad advice. A good man is not going to wait around for you. Let's pretend he doesn't care about you sleeping around. He is going to have offers from other women. So he is going to choose those offers. No reason to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:09 PM
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An average man is 5 foot 9, weighs 200lbs, and makes 48k a year. ( Us). That doesn't fit the preferences women say they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:46 PM
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That's not how you pick a representative sample.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:41 PM
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You can't do an experiment twice and get any results let alone call those results outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:09 PM
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You are proving the point. Your advice is unfalsifiable. You will say you didn't do it right when it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:49 PM
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You didn't answer that is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:47 PM
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My experience as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:45 PM
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As a person doing this for 16 years, it has not worked at all. What it seems to do is keep men from learning how to attract women. Women want a natural man not one that had to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:43 PM
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You have not. You are answering a made up question. Also being poor and ugly doesn’t automatically make that person a “good” person. This is a stawman. Never said that. Most of the time poor and ugly makes a man act entitled, conniving and demanding. This is either projection or you override a person's physical attraction when they act this way. I would love an answer to my actual question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:20 PM
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I can't they are hidden.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:06 PM
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That doesn't at all answer my question. If it is better to be single then be with a shitty man, why are there so many women choosing to date shitty men? Evidence for which is the large amount of women complaining about dating shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:03 PM
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What are you counting as single?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:58 PM
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I don't agree that they intentionally keep men socially chained to gender roles in a conspiratorial way. The problem is not that it was intentional. It is that they didn't care about any of the blowback. So your dismissal is based on something that really doesn't matter. We are talking about what is happening not why.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:54 PM
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When they don't provide examples, you can assume they are at best strawmaning what was said.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:47 PM
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I have never ever seen women here use that kind of straw-men arguments here, They do it all the time. Women are choosing better partners and when they can't be found they choose to be alone - The amount of women complaining about the shitty men they are dating is proof otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:36 PM
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The issue is when women complain about there not being any good men. Then when you ask them what they are looking for you get a laundry list of very rare materialistic things. So it is not that there are no good men it is they want a .05% man. If this is not you then the advice is not directed at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:34 PM
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Then why are so many women always complaining about the shitty men they date? It seems very clear they are picking for materialistic reasons and end up with shitty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:27 PM
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Kinda funny how you talk exclusively about how this hurts women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:29 PM
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Maybe they don't but that was not the question posed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:45 PM
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So we agree. They could but won't. It is fine everyone is selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:57 PM
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Sure but they could make the choice. They have agency. You are not fighting the idea it is possible. You are fighting the likely hood. Which I would agree is like a negative precent chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:45 PM
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Not really. Just fuck the nice guy they tell men to be. I don't expect it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:39 PM
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Sure I am just saying it is in fact not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:31 PM
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It's not impossible. Women just need to fuck men that are not red pill. Not the men they pretend are not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 07:17 PM
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All that is based on the word of viewers. All of which have their own definition of concepts. Is he not doing all the events he says he is? Is he not highly focused on social media? Is he not working out? Why is the real proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:44 PM
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He has a regular day job and roller blades as a hobby That is not what you said. You said he makes a living doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:24 PM
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Your argument with Michael is his viewers have different views than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:22 PM
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Don't know anything about this woman so she could be low value. But you keep thinking everyone has the same opinions on things like what is high and low value. Sorry but RP is not a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:03 PM
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How? If he is a pro, he has status.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:53 PM
2

They are entitled to their own opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:52 PM
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Michael has been vocal about not caring about body count. It seems like you don't know some of the people you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:44 PM
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How can you be a regular guy that roller blades for a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 04:42 PM
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