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if its hard for 80-90% of men that is virtually everyone? No, 40-45% of people is not 'virtually everyone.' I definitely wasn't discouraged by the kid in class who was effortlessly smart..not wanting to work hard because some people are naturally good at is Is an unhinged take I didn't say only that one scenario. There are many things that someone may have gone through to relate to that phenomenon. School and sports are just two common ones. If you've never felt like that in any arena, I'd posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 07:39 PM
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So you acknowledge that it isn't happening in spaces where men are present. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:40 PM
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I know three such women in real life. All three are married to attractive, masculine, borderline (or outright) rich men, and have been for quite some time. All of them have multiple kids and active social lifes. That's anecdotal to be sure, but I've never seen evidence to the contrary except for women who do it online for an audience (which inherently undermines red pill theology.) Women who want good men and change themselves to attract said men almost always find them (so long as they start th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:28 PM
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Welcome to 2025. Lots of women say that? Where? I haven't dated in 25 years, have never used a dating app, and even I hear women say that they don't want cheap first dates. Women say it on their reels, say it loudly on podcasts, and are generally open about that opinion. Meanwhile, I have never heard a woman say what you are now. I'm sure some women do say that, but seemingly only to other women in person or in some super niche online spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:22 PM
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If a woman likes a man... What you should have said is 'If a woman is deeply physically attracted to a man' There is widespread evidence in the form of firsthand testimony from women saying that cheap first dates aren't good enough and that any man who tries to do something as cheap as a coffee first date is just a broke loser. Women aren't a monolith, but people generally don't take risks on first dates in case the other person isn't the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:07 PM
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So you think that if a man takes a woman on a super cheap / free first date that she is likely to be impressed by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:03 PM
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It used to be hard for everyone, but especially all men. Now, it's hard for only the bottom 80-90% of men. The closer men get to the bottom, the more they view how easy it is for everyone else as a mental block. Everyone has probably had this experience. Remember back to college or high school or whenever and you struggled with a subject or a sport and then there was that one person who could do it so effortlessly. How did you feel about that person? Did it make you want to work harder?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:02 PM
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Yep! This concept is so incredibly simple that it shouldn't need a metaphor at all. People are just determined not to allow the idea that women have it easier to stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:19 PM
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Yep, even then it is better to have the option than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:18 AM
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If I'm starving, I'd rather have the option to eat something no matter how putrid. As I said and showed, options are always better than no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:26 PM
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It's not, because you don't have to eat the crappy sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:18 PM
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Of course it is, that's how metaphors work. She doesn't have to eat the sandwich, ma'am.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:28 PM
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Options are always better than no options, even if you view the option as a bad one. This becomes especially true when the neutral option remains available. An example: Two people are sitting in a field on a blanket. The first person has nothing besides the blanket. The second person has a blanket and a deli meat sandwich. The second person does not prefer deli meat sandwiches (but may or may not choose to eat one if they are very hungry.) Person Two is upset that Person One says that it is bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:03 PM
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In summary: If vegans were just interested in meat, their complaints about limited dietary options in restaurants would suddenly go away!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 08:49 PM
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You're completely right and you're going to have a lot of people very mad at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:30 AM
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Even IPV is not correct. Correcting for underreporting, men experience at least as much IPV as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 12:29 AM
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What are we owed, and how do we go about determining it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:55 PM
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Agreed. Irrelevant to the point of my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:34 PM
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Most girls prefer skinny over muscle I've never seen any evidence that is true. Dating will never get easier for men because personality is harder to learn than looks Personality is much easier than looks. You can choose to be a different person tomorrow; you cannot choose to be Brad Pitt tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:49 PM
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It means that we are either owed things or we are not. If we are owed things, we need to figure out what things we are owed and why we are owed them. If we are not owed things, we are not owed anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:29 PM
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You think there’s a nursing shortage bc it hasn’t occurred to anyone to kick bad people out? 🙄 Laws prevent it in many cases. Those laws should not exist. The way you opt out of the social contract is to not live in a society. Which is not actually an option, so therefore you cannot exit it, so therefore it's not a contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:23 PM
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Contracts are voluntary or invalid. How does one decline the social contract? How can an emergency room function, for instance, if people can’t sit peacefully in the waiting room? Kick the people who don't behave out. But that's likely a very different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:15 PM
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I'm making a statement. We are owed nothing, good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:45 PM
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Society owes environments where people are not harassing others with verbal or physical language or actions. That assumes multiple things. First, it assumes that society owes someone something. Why? Next, it assumes that you get to define what harassment means. Why should it be that way? You've made some assertions, justify them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:29 PM
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It does? Why? And I suppose you get to define what basic decency means?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:23 PM
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We have a legal system which is basically saying "we owe each other stuff". Not to kill, even if one could do so and then say "survival of the fittest, nobody owed you anything" is perhaps the most obvious example. That's a statement of what exists (and even that it doesn't get exactly correct.) I'm asking for what should exist and why. Provide an ought statement. We also owe each other that said legal system is implemented fairly, not "one race gets more leniency" which happens all the time. Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:22 PM
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Ah, so society owes you politeness? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:07 PM
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It really is. It advances no meaningful assertion on which to build or rebut. It's just a generic statement 'we should do it.' Do what? How, specifically? What are some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:06 PM
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That's too generic to engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:53 PM
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Not unless it's a threat of physical action. 'Hey sweetcheeks, nice tits,' is just a compliment from an ogre.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:49 PM
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And how do we determine what the collective society owes each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:39 PM
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Or courtesy or kindness or politeness or respect or anything. You can leer at them, catcall them, and do anything else (so long as you ONLY effect their feelings/emotions and not their physical bodies.) And anyone who argues otherwise should also argue against the premise of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:32 PM
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Nobody is owed ANYTHING from anyone else. Full stop. You aren't owed anything, fucktard! (Before my post gets deleted, the above is a sort of metaphor or example, I'm not actually intending to insult them. Please read this twice before nuking me.)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:00 PM
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I'd argue the reverse. More men settled than women did.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:00 AM
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What happens to a society where a large segment of the population aren't getting their basic needs met? The problem is that women (as a group, not as individuals) deny that sex even counts as a basic need. They tend to go feral at the very idea of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:57 PM
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I think it's more simple: men change less than women do. The parts of men that women fall in love with basically stay the same, or in many cases grow, as the years do. Their sense of humor, their passion, their capability to provide, etc. Things do change, but they are generally things women don't care about as much. Men, OTOH, often sacrifice all of their top priorities: intense, passionate sex, and physical effort of their partner towards beauty. So, from many men's perspective, they sacrifice…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:49 PM
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Many people simply don’t lust anyone right away. That's likely true. Such people will never have one night stands. So long as your partner lusts after you at least as much as they have anyone before, that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:53 PM
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This is probably the single most accurate thing ever posted here. I've been married nearly 20 years, and the more times passes, the more I realize how absolutely critical lust is. If you two don't share a deep and abiding lust for one another, the chances that things will work plummet. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:01 AM
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Lust just isn’t enough anyway, it’s superficial and can go on for a few years but it’s not enough. It can go on much longer than that, and it's not 'enough,' but it absolutely is foundational.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 11:53 PM
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Your complaints aren't valid complaints. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 07:12 PM
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And men will still talk about what matters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:57 PM
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Nah. Only my personal hierarchies of priority matter, so I'm going to ignore women's. I learned it from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:54 PM
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Exactly. So they can STFU about being lonely. How about you STFU about men? After all, your hierarchy isn't ours. So perhaps, take your own advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 06:45 PM
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I disagree. I think you actually disagree as well, you just cannot admit it. The number one topic discussed here is, at least arguably, male loneliness. Zero to do with laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:55 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:39 PM
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I disagree. I used 'I' terms for issues where I believe I may not represent many/most men, and I used 'we' terms for situations where I do believe my view represents that of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:33 PM
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Correct. However, it's difficult to have a conversation about a large scale issue in singular terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:31 PM
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Example 1: Look at Trump winning. He won on immigration, the economy, and overturning DEI programs. NOT to address men’s issues. What if men don't want the government to do anything on social issues? I care deeply about men's issues, but I don't believe it's the government's job to do anything. Example 2: The male voting demographic Similar to 1, American men are not focused on men’s rights. I care deeply about men's issues, but I don't believe it's the government's job to do anything. Example 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:05 PM
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Well the data isn't like a survey or anything. They attached a device (has a weird name like phonectograph) It's called a photoplethysmograph. The study is likely either: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14681990500238802?scroll=top&needAccess=true Or, if it was a meta analysis, this one: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-009-9556-9
/r/MensRights02/02/25 10:02 PM
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There's a third option.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 09:47 PM
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Democrats are not aligned with equality and the odds they become moreso are near zero.
/r/MensRights02/02/25 09:10 PM
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No, you didn't, at least not at scale. I've been insulted in every damn way you can be my other men, but never about my dick. That's been exclusively an insult from women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:58 PM
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It's not rude to give someone what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:15 PM
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I'm a man, but potentially not the kind of man you're looking for answers from as I'm not in the dating pool. Nonetheless, this is interesting so I'm going to participate, attempting to think from the perspective of if I was dating. In what sorts of situations should a woman tell you about her preferences? In-person? Online? All. If a woman rejects you, would you prefer her to be specific about why she is rejecting you? Hyper-specific, to the point of brtuality if absolutely required. I want her…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:21 PM
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That's not a particularly complicated opinion, so I'm not really sure why you're repeatedly telling it to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:14 PM
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I like to be clear. I see a lot of misunderstandings around here even when the language is quite obvious, so additional clarity has value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:12 PM
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And I absolutely do. The moment that someone calls for censorship of an idea, that person should be viewed as having a child-like intellect. They should not be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:09 PM
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I agree. Unfortunately, it's sad to see others have such incredibly low standards of care for other people groups that they view as less than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:03 PM
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As long as you admit it, that's fine. It's exactly what men expect, anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:00 PM
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Got it. So, in your view, no empathy is ever deserved simply because someone is suffering, but only if the uninvolved third party thinks that suffering is reasonable. The third party's judgment alone is a perfect defense that empathy is unwarranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:56 PM
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We don't, but likewise, you also don't get to demand support or empathy. True, but that makes it acceptable for us to call out the fact that you have no empathy. For the side that always claims to be the caring and empathetic ones, that empathy never seems to extend outside of people who share their exact beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:53 PM
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Merely censoring something doesn't inherently make that something legitimate True, but it does eliminate the ability to trust the person advocating for the censorship. The call for censorship of an idea immediately removes any credibility on the part of the person calling for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:51 PM
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So, just so that I can confirm I read your comments in the way that you intended them, here is what I heard: 'Unless men prioritize things that I personally find to be legitimate, they lose credibility. The values of men must match my own or they do not have any validity and it's perfectly fine to downplay their needs.' Is that how you meant it to sound, or did, just perhaps, you phrase it poorly? I'm assuming that you don't genuinely believe that you get to decide what matters to an entire popu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:41 PM
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Yep. And, if all that wasn't enough, assuming you're ballpark of average, if you know what you are doing and show her a great time, the chances that she then rejects you so that she can go find a 'vacation dick' are near 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:20 AM
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Billions. That describes almost all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:37 PM
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Like height and penis size. I generally agree with your post, and you're definitely right about height, but penis size isn't a real issue unless you're truly small. Women insult men about it for effect, but most women don't actually care that much about it. I'd argue there's at least a marginal chance that many women would choose to decrease their partner's size rather than increase it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 11:35 PM
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Your semantic argument is tiresome. I'll rephrase for you: You started off with an assertion that the manosphere doesn't care about men's issues. That's distinctly an attack. You were unable to separate your politics from the topic. The manosphere absolutely does care about men's issues. They just don't agree with your political solutions to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:36 PM
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I said the manosphere doesn't care about men's issues. Which it does. So, that's an attack. My point stands. Your politics don't determine whether someone (or some group) cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:04 PM
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Is this a conversation about politics or about how men interact with the political sphere? No, I don't want a king. I also don't believe he violated the law with a temporary freeze on loans and grants. That said, I'm here to discuss gendered issues, not specifically politics, so if you want a solely political debate, I will decline to engage in this venue. You're welcome to check my post history and engage in political debates with me in spaces where that is the primary focus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:42 PM
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You started off with an assertion that men don't care about men. That's distinctly an attack. You were unable to separate your politics from the topic. Men absolutely do care about men's issues. They just don't agree with your political solutions to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:33 PM
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Says the person that started the conversation off by attacking men. Now you complain that you get it back in-kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:22 PM
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Men, unlike women, are not always primarily concerned about themselves. I think it's great he froze funding for all those things, as I don't believe that the federal government should be funding any of them. Even though men may bear the brunt of the burden, I find that acceptable because my first concern isn't myself or 'my people,' it's about what I view as morally just. Men's issues aren't threatened by Trump unless you are foolish enough to believe that the federal government is an appropriat…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:40 PM
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It's parroted mindlessly that women "are as toxic as men". But is it objectively true? 1) women score higher in empathy and prosocial behaviors https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47747-9 2) You're assuming that study truly measures empathy. I see no evidence that it does. It labels a subset of behaviors as empathetic, but not in a way that is objective or well controlled. Most of the worst criminals are male. So are most of the geniuses. Does that men are smarter than women? 3) "but what…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:00 PM
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As an adult who intentionally moved away from the place I grew up and into 'polite society,' I've never met a male abuser, but I've met quite a number of female abusers. Are anecdotes good arguments in this space?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:54 PM
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I'm not remotely upset. I'm typing with a smile on my face. I find this all to be extremely amusing. For those of us adults who interact with those who have your habits, it's absolutely hysterical to be insulted in such a way. It accomplishes nothing for your side except to make you seem like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:50 PM
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It's an OPINION that is absolutely not ignorant. You may find it offensive, but I'm offended that you're taking offense, so who cares? It's an opinion that offends you, and that makes me 'guilty.' Boohoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:46 PM
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Ha! Now I'm guilty not because of my behavior, but because I have an opinion you dislike. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:35 PM
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Not just a guy. A woman wanting to rape me would also be a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 02:23 PM
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And then there are posts from people who are happily married, with kids, who have no history of posting any of that and yet the same arguments get trotted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:20 PM
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i’m not arguing the morality of it dude I’m just saying that insults are more effective when they’re tailored to the audience Let's take a look, shall we? Incel: This insult can almost never be tailored because you almost never know anything about the other person's sex life. I've been called incel while looking for a towel afterwards (that was pretty hilarious timing.) Short: Easy to tailor but almost never is. JDV, for example. 6'0ish and called a dwarf. Dumb Short dick, compensating: Unless y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:13 PM
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They can't even handle being told that they should shut up and lose 80lbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 12:05 PM
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Hahahahahahahahaha! Sorry, it slipped out, I didn't mean to be rude there. Sundays off? You clearly have never experienced the unique joy/hell that is competitive youth sports. Edit: Also, once a month?! That's effectively nothing. Not even a meaningful friendship at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:20 AM
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And that's mine; you definitely are the exception. Marriages are built in plans. It's the de facto arrangement, meaning that friendships are inherently more difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:44 PM
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You being an exception doesn't change much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:25 PM
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My wife and I hang out with 'the guys' or 'the girls' sometimes, too, but that's radically harder to arrange than my relationship with her. That's why it's easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:11 PM
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Neither. My friends are busy with their own lives and kids. My wife is my life (along with my kids.) She's in everything I do and plan by default, which makes it extremely easy. Romantic is easy mode compared to relationships that require extensive planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:04 PM
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I don't see how you're going to be successful at romantic relationships. Those are friendships on hard mode lol Hardly. Romantic relationships are wildly easier than friendships. My relationship with my wife is easy mode compared to friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:01 PM
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Yeah, same to you, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:08 PM
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That's one of the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on reddit. Few men enjoy anything more than making a woman orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:03 PM
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as soon as she inserted herself ...by politely asking to join in a public space? Yes. That's inserting herself. Please note, I didn't say or suggest she actually did anything wrong. the group never had a true chance to fulfill its original purpose Which was what? A group of guys who wanted to focus on chess.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:38 PM
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I'm a bit over 40 with 2 kids and a 20 year marriage. Your childish insults make you sound like you're a freshman in college who thinks she's grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:16 PM
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That's the simpleton response, sure. It ignores human nature in favor of a reductionist catchphrase, but it sure is handy to lob into a conversation to score points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:51 PM
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Every single time. In early college, I was a part of an informal chess club of 8-10 guys. We'd get together Thursday nights and play/discuss chess. Went smoothly for first semester. Second semester, a woman stopped by and watched. Being good natured, when she asked to play, we said yes. Plus, saying 'no women allowed' would have been a major social no-no. She started coming every week. She was reasonably pleasant, of pretty average attractiveness (a standard few of us met,) and so naturally, sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:50 PM
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It is, very much so. Which is another reason it's so incredibly difficult to solve. Now, don't get me wrong, in the absence of relationships, other kinds of interpersonal connections are valuable, even essential, but they are only balm on a wound. They will never heal it entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:52 PM
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A SINGLE person can't solve your loneliness. That's false. You may be able to argue that one person shouldn't, or perhaps that one person isn't enough in all cases, but it's patently false that one person can't ever be a cure for loneliness in all cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:04 PM
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I've never had that experience. Most heterosexual men that I've talked to on this topic haven't either. Men aren't a monolith, though, so there are likely exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:58 PM
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Nonetheless, I was deeply, abidingly, lonely For Sure, I've been there too. And with hindsight, I can say that having a girlfriend would not have been the magic cure all I thought it would be. You can't know that. Plus, no one said anything about magic. but I do believe that most men who suffer from loneliness *do* have friends and some level of social connection but that isn't sufficient to overcome his loneliness. And if this was true, what should be done about it? Because it is consistently f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:18 AM
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That's true, nonetheless, people get upset about that sort of stuff. Heck, depending on the words used, you may get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 09:11 PM
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Congratulations, you belong here.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 09:10 PM
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Any variety of the argument you prefer. As it stands, abortion is legal in most places. Mothers get 100% of the choice whether they get an abortion. Fathers get 0% choice. As such, if a woman doesn't want to be a mother, she can choose that. If a man doesn't, he has no option if the woman decides he's going to be. (And if men want to be fathers but the woman doesn't want to be a mother, she can choose to kill his offspring.) So, there would be three main ways to make the scenario equal: 1) Make …
/r/MensRights24/01/25 08:53 PM
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That third one is referencing abortion.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 08:41 PM
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Gotcha, so you would support equality in all my examples? If so, welcome, you absolutely belong here.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 08:33 PM
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Why are you okay with double standards? ie, It's okay to want a man taller than you but it's fatphobic to want a skinny woman? Or, it's okay to expect men to be providers but unacceptable to expect women to uphold traditional gender roles? Or, it's acceptable to women a way out of parental responsibility but allowing a men a way out of parental responsibility is unacceptable? Just some examples, there are quite a few more that women are more likely to be okay with.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 08:22 PM
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That is factually untrue. No. There are options. They just don’t pursue them. They want a healthy, attractive, young woman, and think if they cannot get that, then they have “zero” options. False. Try it. Get on Tinder an be an average man. You won't get matches. You have zero safety net as an average man. Almost all men are quite a bit stronger than almost all women. If you are a man, then unless you fuck other men, the people you pursue for sex are far too weak to just ignore your sexual reque…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:07 PM
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Of course you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:27 PM
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Yep. Say it online and it's immediate 'incel.'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:25 PM
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Of course they do. You seem to be conflating many things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:06 PM
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To many men, saying 'I'm lonely' is saying that they want a relationship with a healthy sex life. That's the only kind of lonely that most men understand. I have interpreted the male loneliness epidemic as men not having enough friends or a support network. Which is a huge issue. Solve that and men no longer feel pressured into getting into a relationship they wouldn't have wanted to be in otherwise. You've interpreted it incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:05 PM
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I don't think that is an experience that many men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:00 PM
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It is always better to have 2 options than 0. By that metric, then, most men should be happy. Almost no men have actually 0 options. They just don’t like the options they have. Something you shit on women for disliking. That is factually untrue. For starters, for heterosexual men who reject and avoid sex with other men, they will almost never risk having sex with someone stronger than them who can use physical force to hurt them. I don't understand this response. I thought I did, but then I read…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:53 PM
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It’s the closest comparison. Because finding someone attractive is really the key part here. You expect women to be “grateful” for this casual sex, despite not finding anyone attractive enough for said casual sex. Incorrect. The ability to have sex with a potential partner is a sort of loneliness safety net. Even if you don't want to jump into it, knowing it exists is a comfort. Hetereosexual men do not have that safety net. Your metaphor doesn't hold water because it doesn't address like for li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:49 PM
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In the same way that people understand how to have sex without ever being taught. In the same way that infants cry out to be held even though they've never been taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:47 PM
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It inherently is. It is *always* better to have 2 options than 0. That said, I'm willing to play along. is not necessarily better than having more limited but almost entirely safer options. Which options to men have that are 'more limited but safer' in the context of this discussion? We are talking about sex between consenting heterosexual adults. What 'limited but safer' options exist for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:41 PM
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That's true as well, but nonetheless, it is. A heterosexual woman *can* locate someone that is attractive to her to have consensual sex with, even if she finds that sex to be unpleasant. A hetereosexual man *cannot* necessarily locate someone that is attractive to him to have consensual sex with. You are not comparing like for like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:36 PM
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I don't think that's based on reality. I've had this conversation with many, many, many men. I've been interested in male loneliness since I was a teenager when I suffered from it to the greatest extremes. I was quite close to being a statistic on several occasions. I had a pretty wide social network, extremely supportive family, and several extremely close friends (mostly two specific people.) Nonetheless, I was deeply, abidingly, lonely. I met my future wife, who was immediately attracted to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:28 PM
2

You 'seeing it' does not make it valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:08 PM
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I would argue that it is more common for loneliness to go away when a man gets into a relationship with a woman than it is for the loneliness to remain after that relationship is established.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:28 PM
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Because it often is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:19 PM
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Because that is not a solution to the problem. Hanging out with men does not make me (or most men that I've talked about this with) feel less lonely. The problem is the feeling of loneliness and that problem isn't solved by hanging out with other men. Being alone in a crowded room is a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:01 PM
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You can have the same amount of meaningless sex I can. No, he almost certainly cannot do that. Your assertion that he can have as much gay sex as he wants doesn't invalidate his point whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:56 PM
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It's, perhaps, not a perfect metaphor, but the larger point is accurate. Just because you are a vegan does not mean that having the option to eat meat is worse than having nothing whatsoever to eat. Options do matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:55 PM
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You are exactly correct. Very well summarized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:14 PM
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They might be telling her a truth, but they aren't telling her the truth. 'Hey doc, where am I, what happened to me?' 'You're in the hospital. You fell down at one point and scraped your arm.' Neglects to mention that the reason he fell down was because someone hit him in the head with an axe.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:56 PM
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This cannot be asked in good faith. I literally do not believe it can be. Her friends are lying to her face. The cold hard truth is that she is morbidly obese and needs to lose probably 100lbs before she's in the realm of most men viewing her as a decent dating prospect. She *may* be intelligent and she *may* be confident, but men don't care. They care that she's ugly and lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:47 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:59 PM
0

They can, yes. However, when properly prepared beforehand, those issues can usually be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:21 PM
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You can label a horse a zebra if you want, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:18 PM
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Men need solutions, not talk therapy. We need to feel publicly supported in the same way that women are. Some good first steps would be to campaign in favor of things like life sentences for people who falsify rape allegations, court reform to ensure men are treated equally in divorce courts, lobby for women to be forced to sign up for selective service just as men are, ensure that male victims of domestic violence are heard (sort of a #believeallmen event), talk loudly and often about toxic fem…
/r/MensRights21/01/25 08:23 PM
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Yes, that is absolutely a fair way to put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:10 PM
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People throughout history have made the argument that some human beings don't actually count as human beings. You are not the first, nor the last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:06 PM
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They are top of the queue, no doubt. But all newborns are pretty easy to adopt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:58 PM
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That's definitely top of the queue. That said, any newborn is still easy to adopt out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:58 PM
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Good point. We should allow people to murder human beings when they decide it's best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:54 PM
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It's you missing the point, and deliberately. New babies up for immediate unentangled adoption aren't problems. They'd find immediate homes. The waiting lists for those children are millions. The problems are 2-17 year olds with custody issues. The two are entirely different conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:37 PM
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Negative. Many/most custody issues arrive later and cannot be predicted at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:34 PM
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I’m not debating how the children got into care. The point is there are far more children already in the system needing care than their are people that can look after them. Correct. Irrelevant to the topic, but factually accurate. Forcing woman to have more kids they cant afford and no one wants is just adding to the problem and is costing everyone Factually incorrect. 2 million want infant newborns ready for immediate adoption without legal entanglements.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:30 PM
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Incorrect. Babies with no legal entanglements are adopted almost immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:24 PM
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That's factually untrue. Most children in foster care were not given up at birth. Most have complicated custody issues, were taken away by the state, etc. You are spreading misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:23 PM
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No. There's 2 million or so people waiting to adopt infants in the US. Just have the kid, sign away your rights to them forever, and move on. That would be taking accountability. Killing an innocent human being is avoiding responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:06 PM
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Being fit, happy, adventurous, amorous, and peaceful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:52 PM
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My recommendation would be to choose a woman, marry her, and have no need to compete. It's worked for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:25 AM
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This is your hypothetical scenario, not mine. Let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:20 AM
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My wife and I did that challenge a few years ago. I crafted her profile and she crafted mine, constrained by true things that made us both sound as good as possible. Took good photos crafted for the purpose. We did it while on a long vacation to eliminate potential weird stuff. The first day, we swiped on people we would actually be interested in. The second day, we used the other person's and swiped on people we thought were a good match for them. Then we did nothing for the next five days. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:32 PM
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Who is 'he?' I'm assuming it's the person who is upset in your scenario, is that correct? If so, he wants, at minimum, anything that another man was given sexually. Anything less makes him automatically less desirable, second place, etc. This is especially true as it pertains to time. If you can't restrain yourself sexually with another man, but can with me, I'm clearly second place in the category that matters most. Refer to my previous post about how most men feel about being second place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:18 PM
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I'm not sure what the question means. Who is he? What is the purpose of the question being asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:10 PM
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Imprecise language. If she doesn't have sex immediately, almost no man cares unless she's done so with other men previously. In order to feel truly desired by a woman, most men must feel at least as desired as any other man a woman has had sex with. Second place isn't good enough, tied for first is the absolute minimum. This is very easy for men to understand but women seem to struggle, even when explained in very simple terms. I do not understand why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:03 PM
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It is not iffy whatsoever at all. If both are drunk, there is no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:58 PM
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So men dont feel desired when a woman cares about what he has to say? Correct. Dont feel desired when she partakes in his hobbies she initially never cared about? Correct. Dont feel desired that she takes time out her day to help him out? Correct. Dont feel desired when she gives you gifts? Correct. Dont feel desired when she takes time out her day to spend time with his friends/family in gathering? Correct. Dont feel desired, even when there’s makeup, flirting, and/or compliment on his appearan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:06 PM
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I view it as rational.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:08 PM
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No. I oppose remote voting for all people. Day of, in person voting only.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:27 AM
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1) You should identify yourself, yes. A man dating a 'trans female' is just a gay man. 2) All people have a place in a movement based on equality.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 03:16 AM
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Which I acknowledged.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:04 AM
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No luck needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:21 PM
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Than I chose the wrong one. I don't believe in self-worth, tbh. If you are the only person that values you, you are worthless. A dollar only has value because people agree it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:16 PM
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You just proved my argument. You’re not saying you ‘grew’—you’re saying you became dependent on your wife to fill a need you never addressed yourself. That’s exactly the issue. It's no issue at all. That's my point. I’m saying men shouldn’t let their self-worth be entirely dependent on someone else’s presence. I recognize that, which is why my question is simple: why? If finding the right woman makes the 'problem' a non-issue, why even bother trying to fix said 'problem?'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:01 PM
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Not true. My wife is not online almost at all and we recently discussed sex robots after watching Subservience. She hates the idea of sex robots. Yes, that's anecdotal, but I'm absolutely certainly the OP is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:59 PM
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I’m not dismissing your relationship or the impact your wife had on you. A great partner can absolutely provide love, and support, and even inspire personal growth. But ultimately, sustained change has to come from within. Why? Think of it like hunger, if I don't eat, I'm going to get hungry. Food solves hunger. As long as the food sticks around, I'm not worried about hunger. If your wife helped you grow, that’s amazing—but the reason it worked is because you were open to that change. The proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:42 PM
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The ones who believe that once they find the right woman, everything will click into place. But no woman—not even the best one—can fix the parts of you that you refuse to fix yourself. What is your response to those of us who disagree? I recognize myself in your post, and you make multiple valid arguments, but the above is just wrong. My wife fixed those parts of me. It had zero to do with me, just her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:04 PM
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I stand by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:04 PM
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Perhaps, but any love that lacks lust isn't love either. At least not the kind of love that's adequate for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 11:53 PM
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As long as you are perfectly happy to perform the job yourself, I 100% agree. If you are not, it is quite unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 07:19 PM
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You do? Could list those standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 06:02 PM
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Blue pill gonna blue pill. When you can't argue facts, argue feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:00 PM
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Yes, absolutely, but with great caution. If you find the right woman, it's still worth it. The key is her background. Don't look so much at today, look at how she grew up. Are her parents still together? Do they have a good relationship? Has she been brought up in a culture/faith that deeply respects marriage?
/r/MensRights24/12/24 01:59 PM
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Not disposable, no. I'm not just going to stand there, I'm going to attempt to remove that person, who I do view as disposable, from existence. I simply value my life less than I value my wife's. The same goes for my children. I wouldn't hesitate a second to give up my life for any of theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:53 PM
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I spent some time in NC after the hurricane to help with clean up. You are, and I cannot emphasize this enough, WRONG. There wasn't a single person other than me there with a college degree. No one cared about the color of skin of the person whose house we worked on, nor their immigration status. We just worked. Those rednecks you denigrate work harder with less ask that you ever have, I guarantee it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:47 PM
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It's not misandry to be able to recognize patterns and reject ones that are not preferable. I am opposed to all illegal immigration no matter the gender, but if forced to choose, I'd choose a female illegal alien over a male one. That's not misandry, it's pattern recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:44 PM
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I don't care what a man says to me. A man could say the worst insult that precisely targets my deepest insecurity and I would bat an eye or feel even the slightest tug of a damaged heartstring. Men generally do not care about the things other men say. It is clear that while you may sometimes pretend to be a man (or at least intentionally withhold that you aren't) you don't actually understand men very well at all. Edited to add: You are also talking about this internet hellhole, not real life. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:39 PM
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Yeah, trolling is always helpful during debates. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:34 PM
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It's a relational need, not a physical one. You know what's actually being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:48 AM
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I don't need my wife to do anything for me. I don't need her to do chores, fill up the car with gas, get me flowers, or any other act of service you can name. If she did nothing, I wouldn't care. Likewise, I don't need her to work or to provide for me. She could play video games all day and I wouldn't love her less. Continuing, I don't need her to protect me in any way or circumstance. Someone could pull a gun on me and I actively hope she uses me as a human meat shield. Most women would not fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:43 AM
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You first. Har har drr fox news hurr hurrr is as low effort as it can possibly get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:55 PM
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Wrong. You can't get arrested here for saying something mean online. You won't get arrested for shooting some fucker in the face if he breaks into your house. You live in a hellhole and need a daddy to protect you, and you've got too much estrogen to realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:35 PM
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Traveled extensively throughout Europe and Canada, and some South America as well. I haven't watched Fox News since I was in college 20 years ago. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 10:23 PM
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I wish I could explain why it is. The "effeminate" (read: Not Arnie) dude is sort of quite common in Europe. I cannot connect with the idea of Arnie as masculine, but I do believe that you are correct about much of Europe being effeminate, and that explains a lot of the cultural differences as well. Part of a feminine nature is accommodation, and Europe is far more accommodating to many things than the US is. My friends and I marvel (and not in a good way) about the things much of western Europe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:46 PM
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You've never worked a difficult job, have you? You clearly have no idea what reality looks like for many. During that stage of life, long over, yes. I agree. You clear didn't read my comment clearly.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 09:12 PM
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Question for you. You named online gambling as an example. Could you name four more? I promise, there's a point to my question, so I'll say it in full to make sure you understand what I'm asking: Besides banning online gambling because of the ill effects it has on men, could you name four additional areas where strides could be made to improve men's mental health with the end goal of reducing the rates of male suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 02:14 PM
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I absolutely hate it. It makes women look like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:15 PM
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You were not in the mood. So it was uncomfortable/painful for you, you never got turned on and then ofc you didn’t orgasm. RIGHT? I mean, you were wincing a little and counting the minutes till it was over? I feel uncomfortable/pain regularly while working. I often count the minutes until it's over. I do it with joy nonetheless because it provides for my family. My wife needs my support. I need my wife. Joy should be the foundation of all service. Ideally, sex is always mutually desired, but whe…
/r/MensRights19/12/24 01:12 PM
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Neither is being nice, saying kind things, being gentle, providing financially, or even speaking at all. Nothing is owed. Do you understand that?
/r/MensRights19/12/24 01:08 PM
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You shouldn't be down voted for this post, you're correct. However, you deserve the downvotes for the others, as you do completely fail to address their points. Just answer the simple questions they are asking in response.
/r/MensRights19/12/24 01:06 PM
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I just answered that. I don't have anything to add. If you don't understand or need help, just ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:21 PM
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Because the government believes its rightful role is to play daddy. There should be no minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:12 PM
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Or, alternatively, she can murder it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:32 AM
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Reminds me of the ol' conservative fallacy, 'whenever she wants to marry a man, she has the right to!'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:50 PM
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No, they don't. The freedom women have is to kill a kid. Men don't have that right. Your addition ignores the argument. If that's the only option for survival, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:39 PM
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This is PPConfirmed, not denied. She's in prison but there will never be ANY legal consequences for lying.
/r/PussyPassDenied18/12/24 08:31 PM
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And cant you be exploited even if you do something consentually? No, as an adult, you cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:22 PM
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I'm deeply, firmly, egalitarian, at least as it pertains to how the government interacts with citizens. If women have the right to kill their kids in utero, men should have the same right. Not sure that answers your question precisely, but perhaps gives you insight nonetheless. Personally, I believe that men and women alike should be forced to assume responsibility for all the consequences of their own actions, which includes raising and supporting children. Once children are adults, those adult…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:17 PM
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Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. A child's right to live (and who gets a say over whether it does) should have zero to do with where it resides.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:59 PM
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By that standard, why should men have to financially care for children they don't want? After all, women don't have to. Equality matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 06:57 PM
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You had me on board at first, as I agree that individual accountability is critical. Then, starting with point 4 of part 3, you jumped the deep end. Then, starting with 'pretending sexlessness is a real issue,' you went full Titan sub mode, and your position had the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 11:07 AM
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Yes, I would. You own your body (and explicitly no one else's.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 06:05 PM
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There's no such thing as bad sex with a person you love, in my experience. Mediocre sex at worst. And yes, I'd unequivocally rather have mediocre sex every day than great sex once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:35 AM
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Most likely, he recognized that his top priorities weren't compatible with yours. Women, stereotypically, would like/demand many, many, many needs to be met to a satisfactory level within a relationship. Men, conversely, only need 1-3 needs to be met, but those 1-3 need to be completely met. So my hypothesis would be that one or more of his few needs you weren't meeting, and he didn't expect that to change. Examples of things men care a lot about but women tend to care less about (and therefore …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:50 PM
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It's impossible to be a feminist in 2024 without being a misandrist. It's a required part of the membership package. Someone will claim to be one and I'll ask 'when was the last time you spoke up for men in a pro-feminist sub,' and the answer is always silence because they know that if they do, they'll be banned, and the threat of banishment is enough to stop them, ergo, they don't actually care about men so much as membership in the club.
/r/MensRights27/08/24 12:46 AM
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I still disagree with one point, which is that you see “unwanted physical desire” as a coveted thing. By definition that means it’s wanted. The paradox is that men aren’t sympathetic to women’s issues with unwanted desire because they are only thinking of their version of wanted desire. You make it sound like unwanted desire is awesome. It’s not. And when you think of it, you think of something that you want, so it’s already in contradiction to what women describe when they say “unwanted.” This …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 10:00 PM
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Feminists will never, ever, ever, argue in favor of any situation that has the potential to harm women, even if it would promote true equality for men. The goal of modern feminism is not equality, and there is no way that the movement will ever embrace such an ideal. Your argument that men should have the rights to seek justice are absolutely correct, but you won't convince people who elevate women above men. Inevitably, they will validate the feminists arguments, even if they are inherently ant…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:55 PM
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If I've been with my girlfriend for a year, I'm more willing to go without it for a day than if I were single for a year. Interesting. 20 years into marriage, I do not share that willingness. Going without for a week is every bit as brutal as going without for a week was in my first year of marriage. I'm not convinced that your experience is as representative as you may believe it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:47 PM
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The more sex men get, it becomes a lower priority. If you're young and don't get any, it matters a lot more than it does in a long term relationship where you're generally getting your needs met. Interesting claim, is that personal experience talking or research? I ask because I'm 20 years in to my marriage, 40ish years old, and sex is still the same priority it was on day one. If anything, it's more important, even though my sex life today is far more frequent than it was years ago when I was y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:57 PM
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Yep, and vice versa. If women understood that most men rarely experience direct, immediate, lust, it might help them to understand that if they can't give that to him, he's not going to be very interested in her longterm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:38 PM
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I find it so interesting the ways the genders project onto each other. I can totally see how a man would want a woman to have raw lustful desire for him, probably because this is a pretty standard male experience when confronted with a hot woman. He wants her to feel the same way about him that he does for her. There’s nothing wrong with that. Whereas I think a lot of women do of course desire men, but it tends to come with many more complicated path to reach such a desire. For example, I will a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:36 PM
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Yeah, and I think a lot of men would actually be hurt to be told they’re only hookup material. A lot of men want relationships, rather than just hookups. Maybe most men? I don’t know. But the issue with that woman was that she essentially said her boyfriend wasnt hookup material and was only husband material. That’s pretty bad haha Absolutely, unequivocally, not. Almost no men would be hurt by that. Almost all men would take that as one of the biggest compliments they will ever receive in their …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:30 PM
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I think if you put yourself into the shoes of a woman who has searched for an LTR, but has encountered a lot of men who only want to have sex with her without the commitment, added in with the typical female objectifying experience like cat calls and sexual assault, something like marriage is a much higher aspiration than hookups. Only if your hierarchy has commitment at the top. Most men's do not. I'd have loved to have women desiring only sex from me. I'd have loved to be objectified and cat c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:26 PM
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I understand that sometimes men put sex first at the cost of emotional bonding... Sex IS emotional bonding for many/most men within the context of romantic relationships. When that is understood, your statement makes no sense whatsoever. Besides, just because men put attraction and sex first that does not mean they don't value emotional connection It actually means that they DO value emotional connection. The problem in these conversations is that women and men don't approach ideas from the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:32 PM
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I'm with you for the first part, but not the second. Rope is cheap.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/08/24 09:24 PM
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It's only socially acceptable to the people who do the rejecting. Those being rejected would be much better off if given the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:43 PM
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It's only socially acceptable to the people who do the rejecting. Those being rejected would be much better off if given the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:43 PM
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not for the sole reason of them being men tho Irrelevant, what you stated was factually inaccurate. I'd rather be in the safer group regardless of motivations. but their abuse doesn't leave permanant marks. anyone can be abusive and women sure can. Also irrelevant. As you yourself stated, permanent marks aren't necessary to cause harm. Remember saying that? I'll quote it for you: I’ve seen my sister date an abusive man. It was not cool or fun and I was scared for her. Luckily she was never harme…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 04:40 PM
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You misunderstand. I mean call out specific feminists at the time they say the horrible thing, not just general objections shouted to the wind. Go to a feminist sub and object directly to a feminist. See what happens. Go to a rally and object. See what happens. You will do neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:12 PM
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No, you just don't like it became it's accurate and destroys your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:10 PM
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Women are at more inherent risk by default vs men, and at the hands of men. This is unarguable. Men have far more susceptibility to be violent due to physical structure alone - I’m not even saying this is bad. This does though, pose a massive risk to the wellbeing of women. Absolutely untrue. Men are the victims of violence and death far more than women are. That is a fact. I’ve seen my sister date an abusive man. It was not cool or fun and I was scared for her. Luckily she was never harmed phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:08 PM
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You are the minority, but pretend to be the majority. That's his point and the main problem. Feminists never call out feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:06 PM
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I appreciate your additional evidence supporting my claim. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:55 PM
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Half of lesbian couples end in orders of protection (OOP). Could you cite that? I'd be very interested to read that study.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 02:38 AM
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1) I'm a one woman for life man with two kids. Never been with a woman beside my wife. I would never walk away from my children. 2) I'm black. Your racism is gross. 3) I don't believe in taxpayer support for anyone. Cancel all assistance programs. 4) Thank you for continuing to provide more and more and more evidence towards my position. Feminists hate equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:29 AM
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The woman alone should, with zero public support. If the woman can abort and avoid all responsibilities, the man should have that option as well. That would be equality. Feminists oppose it. It's a very simple equation, 'partner.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:22 AM
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The woman alone. If the woman can abort and avoid all responsibilities, the man should have that option as well. That would be equality. Feminists oppose it. It's a very simple equation, 'partner.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:21 AM
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Appreciate you evidencing my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:08 AM
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Yes, they do. Just ask them about financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:55 PM
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Breaking ANY marital vow is a form of cheating, really. We should be viewing all of them as unacceptable. However, we do not. We view sexual cheating as the only one that actually matters. Have an emotional affair? Oh well, he probably wasn't meeting her needs. Act disrespectful towards him? Oh well, he probably said something she didn't like. Why don't people suggest divorce instead of acting disrespectfully? After all, 'to love and to cherish' or 'to love and honor' is in most vows. You don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:09 PM
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Okay, but does anyone actually know if sex with another person*** is a need that cannot be fulfilled with other things that offer companionship? I know it cannot for me. But if someone has loving friends and family and rubs one out once in a while, are their needs fulfilled? Mine wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:52 PM
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In reality a healthy and balanced life needs social connection, affection, close relationships, but basically all of those things are attainable outside of sex. According to whom? In the early/middle years of my marriage, I had all those things but barely any sex. I was miserable. assume that if they just have sex then magically everything else will fall into place, and that’s just not how it works. Years later, my wife and I figured it out, and now our sex life is amazing, but my social life is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:49 PM
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Partners do not 'need' communication, acts of service, gifts, or mutual time together, either. However, denial of those things is a recipe for relational distress at minimum and extreme psychological distress as well. As such, sex should be viewed as a need equivalent to those. How long would you feel good within a relationship if your partner actively avoided talking to you or was intentionally avoiding spending time together? So, your premise is correct in that sex is not equivalent to physiol…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:45 PM
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Wow, that's definitely what I said. Crazy.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 09:25 PM
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Yes, that's exactly what I said and a perfect moral equivalent. Signing a piece of paper is identical. Excellent reading.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 09:23 PM
1

Advocating for more theft isn't the moral high ground you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:22 PM
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My down vote is because you are advocating exactly how feminists do. They don't want equality if it costs anything; they will ONLY advocate for men if there is no cost to themselves. Selective service sign up is exactly the scenario where people can show who they really are. Everyone should be required to sign up. If that's not possible, then ONLY women should be required for the next 100 or so years, after which it can be eliminated for all.
/r/MensRights20/06/24 09:12 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:27 PM
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Wrong. Over 200 studies have shown it. Do better research. https://connect.springerpub.com/content/sgrpa/1/3/332
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:08 PM
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If I had to start over, I'd ABSOLUTELY trade. Women have it wildly easier in every way. As for low LTR odds, that's not reality. Date in a small town, stay skinny, stay loyal, and you'll never struggle to find a great partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:48 PM
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Inaccurate. At least half of all domestic abuse is against men, by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:43 PM
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As a black guy, anyone left of center is out. The soft bigotry of low expectations is a huge turn off, and I never met anyone on the left that wasn't chock full of that kind of thinking. Conservatives have their own issues, but they treat me as an equal at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:46 AM
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Your premise is false. Redpill doesn't hate women anymore than bluepill hates men. Information should be judged on its on merits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:17 PM
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This is exactly correct. When you actually think about it, it's biologically rational. It's why men remember every compliment about their body they've ever received from a non-related woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:08 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:22 PM
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Because cheating is never justified. Full stop. It’s cowardly, deeply disrespectful and just plain immoral. Neither is starving your partner of sex. Identically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:58 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:49 PM
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The first to act is the primary person to blame. Think of it like an assault. The person who punches first doesn't have much right to complain about getting punched in return. Refusing sex isn't fair to him, so 'cheating' isn't somehow magically reasonable to complain about. Don't want to get hit by Shaq? Step one: don't punch Shaq.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:47 PM
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I can't say I've seen it said very often in person, so I can only speak to my own experiences. When I say it, I mean it, and I mean it literally. As in, 'the person is being illogical with their arguments.' Using strawman, no true Scot, arguments from authority, and other illogical arguments. I think most women (and people in general, but you made it gendered) don't actually understand what logical thinking looks like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:10 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. Yes, sex is important, but the most critical aspect of sex is the other person's desire to have sex with me. That's by far the most importantly part. Without that, it's just a kind of quasi-masturbation. After hundreds of conversations, I've become convinced that almost no women understand that. I posit that it's because nearly all women who try at all (don't choose morbid obesity with their eating habits, dress even vaguely like they care, and don't smell) have bee…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:41 PM
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Once you've had sex, you'll almost certainly change your hierarchy. Sex will become 'desire most.'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:36 PM
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Not sure where you found that figure, but you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 04:26 AM
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Yeah, the marital status shifts the %. Most men making $110k+ are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 01:02 AM
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It actually is. 110k and not married is top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:56 PM
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Because a scale is a scale is a scale. I never said anything about who should be dating who, only that a 5 is a 5.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 10:25 PM
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A male 5 and a female 5 are not equivalent. Wrong. Objectivity is important. The average woman is more aesthetically attractive to the opposite sex than the average man. A male 8 would be sexually attracted to a female 6, it doesn’t work the other way. True. The fact that women are irrational isn't relevant to the 10 scale, however.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 09:44 PM
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I think for many, men especially, it's purely validation. It's validation that you are valuable, worthy, and desired for your physical self, which is truly the only 'truth' about a person. All other outward facing characteristics can be faked. Lots of chameleons out there pretending to believe things they don't and acting in ways that are just that, an act. Your physical body is the only thing that is truly, completely, uniquely, you. Being validated for you is something many people need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:33 PM
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Correct, but non married and making $110k+ is already top 1%, and those ARE independent variables. You are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:44 PM
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Yeah, no. Being sexually attracted to your partner is a basic thing effectively all men agree on. It's women who cry about this topic when men don't want to date lazy 2s and 3s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:58 PM
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Then they look at themselves with imperfect teeth and a belly, balding and being short and also declare themselves a 6/10 and get mad that she’s not into him. Define a different show, than. Most guys on it rate themselves 4s or 5s. Any girl who most guys find attractive is at usually at least a 7, even the nerdy ones you’d like to sleep with because there’s something about them. Wildly inaccurate. 4s are outright ugly and unattractive with distinctive ugly features. Maybe you don't understand ho…
/r/MensRights24/12/23 05:55 PM
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It absolutely, unequivocally, is. I just ran the math, all those things are top .58% of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:53 PM
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Ah. So, at its core, our disagreement comes from the idea that you believe Nazism has a defined meaning but feminism does not. I do not agree with that, so I suppose we can go no further.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 05:51 PM
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Salary at 110k after bonus which isn’t crazy for NY just a somewhat respectable salary. Height at 5’10 looks 7.5/10. See I’m just above avg and have done well - my conclusion is just you don’t need to be top 10% The idea that the above isn't top 10% is WILD. That description is close to top 1%.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:58 PM
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The last thing they ever want to do is date a chubby girl with a good personality. Most men don't want to date people they aren't sexually attracted to. That's a weird thing to object to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:56 PM
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If it’s the one I’m thinking about most of them are 10s. The guy drags on a bunch of models No models, unless you think selfies make you a model. mysoginist towards them right? Nope. Let’s be honest they’re above average looking women, that’s the point of the show Some are 6s or 7s, a rare 8. Many 4s. I’ve never heard a woman in the real world call herself a 10. You haven't asked women in a group. You need to get out into the real world more my boy.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 03:34 PM
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I'm not attempting to be dismissive of your attempts at a good faith dialogue, but your response ignores my fundamental question. You're saying that we should believe that people who call themselves Nazis are Nazis, and people who call themselves flat-earthers are flat-earthers, but people who call themselves feminists are not actually feminists. We should treat them as though they are idiots and don't even know what they believe. How is treating them like idiots going to be beneficial?
/r/MensRights24/12/23 03:07 PM
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Why would we ever consider treating an adult like an adult?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:43 AM
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How is treating adults like children a big part of our current mess? Do you really need that answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:26 AM
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girls You spelled 'women' wrong. Don't infantilize adults. Big part of why we're in the mess we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 02:52 AM
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How do you suggest we operate in such a scenario? A person approaches you and says, 'I'm a flat Earther.' Do you then assume that they believe the earth is flat? Or do you just assume they actually do believe Earth is round-ish and they don't truly know what a flat earther is? Do you take them at their word or do you treat them like they are an idiot? Personally, I'd like to be taken at my word rather than be treated as an idiot.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 01:53 AM
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Your reasoning, taken to it's logical conclusion, is not wise. 'Nazi' is not a controlled term. As such, some people who call themselves Nazis may just be strict nationalists. No. Feminists are not egalitarians, and Nazis aren't just nationalists.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 01:14 AM
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Indeed. I vomited in my mouth a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:41 AM
1

Candace Owens
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:32 AM
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Terrible. Worse than W, Obama, and a virtual tie with Biden.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:30 AM
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'Age-appropriate' is 18+. Trying to gatekeep men's dating preferences is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:29 AM
1

We need affirmative conscription to make up for the past sexism.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 12:08 AM
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Personally, I'm for human rights. Gender is pretty much irrelevant. So long as you're pro equality, you belong. Even people opposed to equality, such as feminists, are welcome as long as they remain rational-ish.
/r/MensRights24/12/23 12:00 AM
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Every feminist is. 100%. Speak with any women who calls herself a feminist about the issues I listed. She WILL object to 1 or more. Women who believe in equality don't call themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 10:07 PM
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So is there really ANY chance we can 'come together?' The answer is no. All that can happen is division.
/r/MensRights23/12/23 10:04 PM
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Try. Go to feminist groups and push equality. Support laws that guarantee sex-blind sentencing. Supports laws that guarantee sex-blind parental rights. Support laws that require women to sign up for selective service. Support laws that abolish scholarships based on sex. Support laws that establish equal penalties for women who make provably false r-pe accusations. Support initiatives that benefit males who suffer from domestic violence. See what happens!
/r/MensRights23/12/23 09:40 PM
1

I'd be hesitant, fearing a prank or trap of some kind. But if I was convinced it was genuine, I'd be flattered and turned on by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:59 PM
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I'd choose the first option without hesitation even if it were not for the fact that having the first pretty much guarantees the second.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:14 PM
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Something can be a privilege even if you choose not to take advantage of it. If a rich kid turns down all their parents' money and works for their own, they still have the privilege of being able to fall back on mom and dad. Sex for women is the same way. Even if they don't use it, it's a privileged to have the option. If that doesn't change your mind, nothing will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:40 AM
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Despite what they say, you can absolutely be overweight and be healthy. No, you can't. It seems like most men (on PPD at least) would rather date a sedentary smoker who’s thin than a woman who works out, eats right, & doesn’t smoke but who is overweight. Odds are the fat person will have more health consequences than the smoker, and the smoker will look better. Net advantage goes to the smoker. And before you come at me and say “if you work out & eat right you can’t possibly be fat” allow me to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:49 PM
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A fail on nearly every level. First, no one is owed anything that requires someone else. I am not owed the labor of another person, unless that person agrees to such a thing. Second, sex is romantic love for many. I could go my whole life with so-called romance, but I'd be unable to mentally cope without sexual companionship. Call me weak, but it's true. Just as total isolation breaks people mentally, lack of sexual companionship would break me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:10 PM
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I wish women understood how much most men want to be treated the way women are. Compliments from strangers aren't sexual harassment to us, those are potential core memories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:47 AM
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If you aren't taking advantage of being a 9/10, you're doing it wrong. You have doors open to you that are closed to 7s. Aside that, as a man, it's hard to read your post without jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:45 AM
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You just said women never need medical clearance to have sex after childbirth. No, I didn't. Read my comment more carefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:40 PM
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I never said otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:37 PM
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So you did understand, at least in part, so I'll say to you again, thank you for evidencing my point. Compromise is important, but rare, and women rarely engage in it in good faith when it comes to sex in a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 11:01 PM
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I'm 99% confident that you didn't understand what I said and what it meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:38 PM
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Thank you for evidencing my point. No clearance is needed by a doctor for sexual activities post delivery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:34 PM
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For men, yes, it is. It's not the only thing, but it's top three.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:16 PM
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The husband gets impatient, or the wife starts to resent the constant nagging for sex. A little understanding on both parts is helpful. Usually, the wife expects a massive amount of understanding, not just a little. Compromise is healthy, but it's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:15 PM
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It fades for many women. Most men find it a lifelong companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:10 PM
0

Could you ever adopt a dog that could fly?
/r/MensRights02/06/23 03:28 PM
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They are uncomfortable. I recommend only banging people you trust completely. Ideally, one you share an anniversary with.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 07:55 PM
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I mean, it's not relevant to me, it's just the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:58 AM
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Men who can afford to attract women on money alone, in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:18 AM
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lol. High status men do no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:10 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:36 PM
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Follow that up with uplifting words and he, well, he may cry. 'I just wanted to show you how much your sacrifice means to me, how much I value it, and how much I respect you for it.'
/r/MensRights25/04/23 01:08 AM
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Unexpected (gift), unexpected place, unexpected time. Gift is a euphemism.
/r/MensRights25/04/23 12:30 AM
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It is one thing to ban sex work and another to punish only men for using it. I can't think of a single other service where consumer is punished while provider isn't. Such a thing would NEVER be tolerated if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights25/04/23 12:25 AM
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lol. Men who have enough money to passport-bro aren't doing so just for looks. That's the audition, not the casting. Western women aren't getting cast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:21 AM
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You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:02 PM
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...so men in the west realize that the women here are highly prized and sought after too. They aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 11:00 PM
3

How difficult would you say it was to attain that number? How difficult would it be to attain more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:35 PM
4

Dick as defined by...?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:51 PM
2

What's your body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:49 PM
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Dunno how it leads to hurt feelings. Because I value you and see you not as a ONS, and before I get invested with you emotionally because I see this going somewhere, and pair bond with you etc, I want to make sure this is real Because you don't understand how men think. Men want to be valued on their appearance. That is a goal of virtually all men of all species. It's why male birds (and other animals) are the 'pretty' ones. Their appearance is what largely defines their worth to females of thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:14 PM
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Claiming that a specific group of people are worth less and damaged is dehumanizing. Error 1: I did not make any such claim. I never said that any person (or group of people) was 'worth less.' Error 2: Dehumanization is not about pointing out accurate information, it is about removing people from human characteristics. Such as if a person said that someone 'isn't a human being' for some reason, such as age, race, or religion. Rarity doesn't add worth. Yes, it does, it almost all circumstances. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:18 PM
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I mean, sure, but not really. Everyone is damaged. The shapes are just different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:09 PM
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The word damaged is not meant to be used to describe people, it is meant for objects. By saying 'damaged' you are implicitly claiming she is worth less as damaged objects are as valuable as undamaged ones. That is dehumanizing. Of course it is. To deny that humans are damaged is to deny reality. We are all damaged. 100% of all humans are damaged. That damage takes different forms and exists in different degrees, but it exists within all of us. To acknowledge damage is, perhaps, the most human tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 08:03 PM
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saying single mothers are damaged is a common example of dehumanizing and Single mothers are damaged. That's not dehumanizing, it's factual. Now, saying single mothers are worthless would be dehumanizing, because all humans have value. Dehumanization is the process of describing someone in a way that is outside of humanity, not accurately describing negative traits or characteristics that an individual human has. saying you want a woman with a low body count while yours is high is a common examp…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:44 PM
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The OP didn't mention any situations that are either one of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:38 PM
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No, not every man she wants a LTR with, every man that she sleeps with. That said, I also do agree, if she tells every man that she wants a LTR with with that, 'I sleep with men on the first date regularly, but won't sleep with you for 3+ months,' that's fair to him, even if it's incredibly self-centered and will inevitably lead to hurt feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:37 PM
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CRAZY important. Your success or failure early on often shapes your entire personality and sense of self worth over your entire lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:56 PM
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Is your argument that preferences are acceptable but choosing those preferences based on facts is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:54 PM
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High levels of testosterone and low levels of estrogen during puberty are good for males but bad for females. I applied it unequally, so it's obviously not factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:53 PM
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I 100% agree, so long as the woman does this exact strategy for EVERY man she sleeps with. So, does that fit within your post? If not, I follow with... If she doesn't, she's just a manipulative hypocrite looking for a long term sucker that she doesn't truly care about. His emotions don't matter to her, she's only valuing hers. Hopefully, you'd agree that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:45 PM
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I never claimed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:16 AM
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There's no masturbation that matches sex with my wife. The orgasm may sometimes feel equally, but everything else is worse. Masturbation never truly improves my mood, at best it's minor stress relief. Meanwhile, sex makes me feel like I can conquer the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:43 PM
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But I'm questioning whether the OP is asking me the question now, today, or hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:59 AM
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I can't tell if you legitimately didn't understand my response or if you're making a semantic argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 11:47 AM
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All this does is ensure relational dissatisfaction later on. Once the 'relationship guy' finds out, the seed is planted and he WILL regret his choice. That's not sensible if the goal is to have a quality relationship. Now, if the goal is to have a crappy relationship, than your statement is accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:46 AM
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Masturbation and sex aren't the same, nor are they even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:20 AM
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I already have kids, so if I'm asked that today, I choose the second option. I'm not giving up my children for anything. If I'm starting over tomorrow at 18, I choose the first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 09:18 AM
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It's gotten hilarious. I was at a party a few months ago and I was chatting with a buddy about his dating woes. He's... done poorly in the dating world. He's great, but he's not attractive and a bit socially awkward. We were basically just discussing how the deck has become extremely stacked against men, we weren't blindly bashing women or anything. Anyway, a woman standing nearby overheard us and started engaging. Over the next few minutes, she grew increasingly hostile, and the word 'misogyny'…
/r/AntiFeminists16/02/23 10:29 PM
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Wasn't asking you to. I was simply correcting a common misconception I see posted a lot. I'm very glad you both got through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:14 PM
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I feel like you’re splitting hairs here. I’m not sure why? I'm being accurate. Accuracy matters, especially in an area where so many people fall prey to inaccurate information. If it made him more hungry and he gained weight, it was still the medication that cause that. You may be able to accurately say the medication made him hungry. You cannot accurately say it made him overeat. Metabolic syndrome has been studied in direct relation to antipsychotics affecting the way dopamine interacts with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 09:08 PM
1

No. Quetiapine doesn't break thermodynamic laws. It may send signals that increase the likelihood of ATP to fat storage, but it doesn't cause weight gain. This is simple to test. Take in no calories whatsoever while taking quetiapine. If you gain weight, your assertion is correct. If you lose weight, it's incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:37 PM
1

Happens constantly. 'Housework' never seems to mean anything hard, technical, or physically demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:13 PM
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I have an under the desk treadmill and walk literally all day while I work. I get 12k-18k steps most days. I still have to count calories and meal plan to keep from gaining weight. Steps don't matter. Walking isn't helping. You need more time within the higher ranges of exertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:08 PM
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My husband who was always physically fit, gained 40/50lbs in 6 months due to some medication he was put on many years ago. That's still within his control. He didn't gain weight because of a medication; the medication didn't have calories. He gained weight because he out-ate his caloric expenditures.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:05 PM
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I think most men think the same way on the topic: all people should control the things they can control if those things matter to their partner. Weight is 100%, always, always, always, within a person's control. There are zero reasonable-example exceptions. So, if your weight matters to your partner, you should maintain it. The same applies to anything else within your control. Aging skin? Can't control that. Balding? Can't control that. Cancer? Can't control that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:04 PM
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A quartic projection. Impressive.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:30 PM
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Projection squared. Pull that disad through.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 11:24 PM
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You clearly don't know how to read, nor do you dwell in reality. No matter how loud you reee, feminism is not egalitarianism. That's an observable fact that I can prove, and have. No feminist supports equality. Zero. But hey, prove me wrong. Find me one feminist who believes that men should have the same authority over their children's bodies that women do. Just one. I'll wait. Now sit down, child, before you embarass yourself even more.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 10:54 PM
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Never said women's rights infringe on ours (although at least one does.) I said feminists are opposed to equality. That's not an opinion, it's a fact, and I've NEVER met an exception. Do you call yourself a feminist? If so, DM me. I'll show your hypocrisy instantly. Feminism is, by it's nature, NOT egalitarian. It's not a generalization, it's a fact. No irony, no hypocrisy, just you being brainwashed.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 10:29 PM
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A reasonable feminist is just an egalitarian btw. And you have 2 flavours of feminism. No. A feminist cannot be an egalitarian. If an egalitarian espouses feminist views, they are not an egalitarian. The two are mutually exclusive. You’re free to criticize them on it but going “oh all feminists are blah blah” is on par to how feminists go “all men are trash.” The two are very different. Not all men are trash, but all feminists oppose equality. It's like me saying 'all rapists are scumbags,' and …
/r/MensRights15/11/22 07:23 PM
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Reasonable and feminist ARE mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights15/11/22 06:01 PM
1

Go ahead and define it for me. Articulate how women's natures are externally toxic.
/r/MensRights10/11/22 08:10 PM
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I don't know a solitary married man who hasn't been hit at least once by his wife, even in happy marriages.
/r/MensRights07/11/22 02:52 PM
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You've made a claim. Prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:41 PM
2

Ah yes, and the Ukrainians should unite with the Russians rather than oppose them. Great advice.
/r/MensRights30/10/22 02:45 PM
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You didn't answer my question whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:30 PM
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I'm a traditional, one woman, man, fit, can fight, can support my family, not addicted to porn, don't play video games regularly, have extensive weapons training, can do (and have done) extensive home improvement and maintenance, but probably could not build a quality home on my own, that I'll grant. As such, I'd argue that your post agrees that it's acceptable for me to complain about women, is that correct? Or am I disqualified because I probably can't build a quality home on my own? Your post…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:11 PM
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Your count is explicitly and absolutely not immutable. It's an active, intentional choice. That alone makes your argument/comparison completely irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 03:29 PM
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I rarely have interactions with that kind of person in real life, but the last time I did, the woman called me an incel as she walked away. I was watching my kids at a playground. With my wife.
/r/MensRights27/10/22 01:42 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/MensRights20/10/22 05:23 PM
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Absolutely not. Under no circumstances would I vote for that anti-freedom, pro-tax, prick.
/r/MensRights17/10/22 10:21 PM
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Nope. Those people have the least chance of divorcing. https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:51 PM
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Right, which I addressed. I'm married and I made those choices many years ago. The data is very, very clear. The more partners a woman has, the more likely she is to divorce. That alone is a strong reason to value virginity or extremely low partner numbers. I married as a virgin and my wife is the only person I've ever had sex with.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:42 PM
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1) Yes, and if not, BC 1 at most. 2) Definitely, 100%, without children. Most women dating average men in their late 30s and 40s are also 30s and 40s and have kids. (Note: I'm married, not dating, but putting myself in the situation mentally.)
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:26 PM
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Unless you're top 10% in income, none of that matters unless you're looking to date other men's leftovers.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 06:12 PM
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Exactly, so it's not an advantage at all.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 04:32 PM
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No. Toxic masculinity isn't real. If it were, the people who use the term would also use the term 'toxic femininity.' They don't, and there's a very good reason.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 05:08 PM
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Toxic masculinity doesn't exist at all. It's not a real thing, and no one who speaks about it as a real thing is doing anything excepting shaming men.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:57 PM
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Doesn’t seem like he’s trying to shame men at all. toxic masculinity is discussed Not trying to shame men... labels male traits as toxic. You may be confused.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:40 PM
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girls would think I was less masculine Sounds like toxic femininity, right? I'm sure your girlfriends agree.
/r/MensRights07/10/22 04:39 PM
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You didn't read what I just said, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:24 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 08:04 PM
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No, the wisdom was before that. No idea, don't care was in response to your irrelevant link and question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:53 PM
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Wisdom always sounds stupid to fools.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:49 PM
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I gave a random example. My wife and I don't use that kind of language, either, but we do express stress poorly in other ways. Any multi-decade married person that says that never happens is a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:12 PM
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(X) Doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:11 PM
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Yes, but I'm saying if you lie and support your friend's side publicly, you suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:10 PM
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No. You said to that you should support your friend in public. That's nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:46 PM
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Men and women don't have different behaviors, that's the point. lol. I'm glad you believe yourself to be a paragon of moral virtue. 10:1 says your exes don't. Denial of reality is dangerous. Hopefully you return to it soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:45 PM
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No idea. Don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:43 PM
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If you aren't willing to acknowledge wrongdoing, you aren't the kind of friend quality people desire to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:33 PM
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Again, perhaps you missed it, but this is not a gendered issue. Let's say one person has an extremely stressful day at work. They also didn't get a chance to eat, so they are hungry. They come home and they accidentally trip on a shoe you left out. They yell and call you a f***ing asshole. They don't truly mean it, but their stress has left them on edge. It takes a good person, a pretty selfless person, to be able to deal with that situation without snapping back at them or getting angry. Now, s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:32 PM
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No, cheating is wrong. Abuse of all varieties is wrong. Stealing is wrong. Manipulation is wrong. There's lots of thing that are wrong, and if my friend is doing them, I'll call them out because that's the right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:26 PM
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i'm confused what tf kind of friendship you think it is to side with a stranger rather than your friend? like unless you're talking about literal abuse, of course you are going to support your friend? I side with whomever I believe is right. I'm not necessarily going to stop being friends with someone because they screw up a relationship (cheat, lets' say) but I will call them out on that misdeed. Men have much much weaker in-group bias than women, so it's understandable that this doesn't make s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:52 PM
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1) Most don't. Most men treat the women they get as well as they can. 2) Men, like women, find it difficult to be completely selfless. When they are in difficult situations, they often default to protecting their own interests. This is a human condition, not a gendered one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:50 PM
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So you haven’t answered my direct question. Typical. Questions with self-evident answers don't need answering. I explained perfectly well why your question didn't matter. No you do not get a refund lol. Same way you don’t get it now with insurance “choices” That’s hilarious. Right, my question also didn't need an answer. It was self-evident. The difference between insurance and taxes is that I can opt out of insurance. Taxes, not so much. Correction: feeling in charge of your own decision making…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:30 PM
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There's a few layers to this. The first is the huge word at the beginning of your question. IF. What if I pay a lot more (tax rates for comparable earners are much higher in places like Canada or the US, and money is fungible) and don't use the service at all? Do I get a refund of my taxes? Saving money isn't priority #1, being in charge of my own decision making is. Being stolen from to fund someone else's priorities isn't an acceptable methodology to me. I don't need a daddy to tell me how to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:10 PM
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I don't care about credentials at all and only brought them up as a response. IMO, people reading should ignore both and decide which argument they find more compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:25 PM
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No, they did present more facts than you. And your one boyfriend anecdote doesn’t represent the whole country’s struggle with college degrees, have you not heard of the trillions of dollars of school debt? Or the toxic job market since covid? Ah, I see your confusion. What they did was called an assertion. An assertion is not a fact. Additionally, the person who puts forward the assertion maintains the obligation to prove that assertion. They'd didn't. Oh sorry, your boyfriend went to a trade sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:11 PM
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So you're convinced by the other poster's assertions even though they also have not posted sources or facts? I'm deeply shocked that you're more swayed by an argument you already agree with. Shocked!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:51 PM
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One anecdote doesn’t dissolve a trend. Does it? It proves that there is no meaningful truth to your suggestion. Trades are open and do not require college. It’s 100% true. Google mandatory minimum sentencing laws. Ah, yes, if you are discussing people affected by those laws, you are correct. That's a minority situation, but it's real. That said,... I support extremely long sentences for all violent crime, including property destruction. Drugs, however, absolutely not. And black and brown men are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:03 PM
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It doesn’t exist in the US at all. We have become a 2 class society of people who went to college and people who didn’t. College is astronomically expensive leaving people with crippling debt that eats away at their lifetime earnings. Economic mobility is the lowest it’s ever been. No, that's simply not true at all. Trades are incredibly rife with opportunities that don't require any college at all. My BIL is the perfect example. Multiple felonies, life in a tailspin. Has a GED because he couldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:36 PM
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slavery being legal for prisoners, people who have committed a felony losing the right to vote, I disagree and am completely fine with both of those things (with off topic caveats.) Those issues are bigger than sentencing disparities. The hell they are. #4: Private health insurance and care sucks, and compared to other countries, we pay more for a worse result. Propaganda. Try needing non-emergent knee or shoulder surgery in Canada or GB. You say "males will be forced to pay for this", yeah, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:21 PM
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I know that because my struggles during those times were caused by not having sex. My struggles led directly to her struggles, because when our sex life slowed down, I stopped being the partner that she needed me to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 02:15 PM
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This is the worst take I've ever heard. As for changing your mind, I only have anecdote, but I'll give it. My wife and I have been married for almost two decades. During that time, we've had struggles, and 100% of the times we were struggling were when we were having the least sex, and not just the least in terms of quantity, but also the least enthusiastic. Meanwhile, the times in which we've been having the best, most enthusiastic, honeymoon-level sex are the times where both of us have report…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:48 PM
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Mostly excellent. Minor disagreements with a few points. On #1, that already exists, but we may find common ground if you are simply talking about societal messaging. #3, yes, but also no. There needs to be reform, but most people are in jail for completely legitimate reasons. Even though I completely agree with your position of legalization of recreational drugs, the reality is that people in prison for drugs offenses are habitual, usually major, offenders. The far bigger issue is sentencing di…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:42 PM
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No. I'll continue to vote to support the rights of the millions (over the years) of my race who have been and will be be genocided.
/r/MensRights05/10/22 01:33 PM
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Yep. The title would change, too. "Coach's son accused of raping girls in high school for many years."
/r/MensRights05/10/22 11:59 AM
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Most divorced couples agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:14 PM
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We also wrote each other's profiles, so she wrote an (almost) true profile that she'd want to read as a woman looking for a date. I did the same for her. Both from the perspective of finding a partner, not just getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:32 PM
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I'm not sure in total. 30+ the first day. Of those, she was easily able to get more than a dozen to set up in person dates. Once it got to that point, we explained what we were doing and apologized. Didn't ghost anyone. I commiserated with guys that responded to that announcement. Most laughed, a few were pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:28 PM
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In 3 days, I never got a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:00 PM
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Did this with my wife a number of years ago. It was devastating mentally. Do not recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:57 PM
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Ever been in a boss fight where the boss deploys drones or clones or minor enemies while it regroups? Your suggestion is akin to only attacking those additional enemies while ignoring the boss.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 04:47 PM
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Sounds naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:40 PM
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Nope. Now, there are some subtleties, but if your kids are a bigger life priority than your spouse, you're a fool. My wife is my #1 relationship priority. Time with her is more important than time with my kids. That doesn't mean it's 100% time with her and 0% with them, but my top priority is ensuring that our relationship is solid. I'm a husband first and a father second. That's the correct order.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:02 PM
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That's because she hasn't been charged yet, probably.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 03:01 PM
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My take is that after marriage, women identify as a more mature “mom” or “wife” and subtly shift their roles away from the more youthful and fun girlfriend/fiancé roles. This is critical. At no point should a man support that shift. When you hear comments from others such as 'kids come first,' there should be a response. No, they don't. When those behaviors show up at home, it has to be addressed early, before it takes root. A husband who lets his wife become mom first will never get her back.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:00 PM
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Height matters a lot by far but it doesn't trump race. Trust me. Disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:30 AM
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"Tall" is often a dog whistle term for "White" but nobody here is ready for that conversation. I mean, as a black dude, I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:27 AM
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We do? Maybe some do, but I don't think it's the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:27 AM
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I didn't say we did. However, I'm also not idiotic enough to believe that it won't always be a part of human society.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 12:18 AM
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He's not arguing that they have to. He's simply pointing out that women basically have the option of doing extremely well without even trying.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 12:16 AM
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Nope, but if you had up 190 country flags, the 5 left out could rightfully infer disdain.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 09:31 PM
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If there is a sign for every major demographic, except two, those two rightfully feel like they are being told a negative. To deny that shows exactly what you believe, and it's gross.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 09:24 PM
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The irony is that sex work is one of the few, possibly only, things that many/most modern women can offer men as a good or service that men actually care about. To oppose its legality is to deny many women their only truly marketable asset. That, in turn, makes slaves of women who become inherently reliant on men to provide for their needs. It's an astonishingly delusional stance for a feminist of any stripe. (I'm not pro sex work, and I believe women should develop other marketable skills inste…
/r/MensRights28/09/22 06:43 PM
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Ironically, in both situations it's someone else's body doing the dying to protect the woman.
/r/MensRights27/09/22 04:19 PM
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Yep, but a flair doesn't determine epistemological value. Your use of that terminology shifts the discussion to which is more valuable, and in this case, my opinion carries more weight than yours for numerous reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:43 AM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:17 AM
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You have a hypothesis. You, therefore, have the burden of proof to prove it. Therefore, me saying 'it's true,' actually does have more validity than you saying it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:00 AM
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So, in other words, nothing could possibly convince you and this 'CMV' should have been a 'YCCMV.' 10-4
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:52 AM
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I'm not sure where I should post. I completely agree with your thesis about dating, but radically disagree with: I still think the advantages of urban areas outweigh the drawbacks, for BOTH men and women. Urban areas suck and there are almost no advantages whatsoever. Taxes are higher, crime is worse, laws are significantly worse, and apathy is much greater.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:39 PM
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I'm 40, married, two kids. I think most of the complaints in this sub are valid and on track. I believe that what I felt in college was accurate then, and more accurate every year. Does that change your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:33 PM
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Exactly, which is an idiotic take incompatible with the language. It's a racist acting like a racist. Regardless, even if it were true, it's irrelevant. Text doesn't change. It's not alive. If you want to change it, there are methods to do so, use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 02:05 AM
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Dude, Dredd scot is one of the most egregious originalist case ever. Literally the first one. And is a perfect example of what happens when lawmaking is run through a prejudicial view. It's not an originalist ruling. Can't be, as race isn't mentioned in the Constitution. You need a review. How about we have this conversation when we both pass the bar! I’ll check back with you soon to see when you’re scheduled! No time soon, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:59 AM
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how are you black and an originalist? I'm deeply logical. Originalism is the only rational way to interpret any text. Words don't magically change meanings because we no longer like what the author said. I've had this conversation before, and I've saved links to help the process. Read the one below if you need to overview, but I'm an 'original meaning' Originalist. https://pacificlegal.org/originalism-vs-textualism-vs-living-constitutionalism/ I wasn't alive for Dred Scot, and even if I was, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:36 AM
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I support originalism and believe it's the only rational way to interpret laws. I also completely reject the idea that Republicans (usually) support racist laws. Meanwhile, I know for a fact that Democrats do. Hell, they wrote it into their party platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:26 AM
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I research and I vote for whomever I believe to be the candidate that will best represent my viewpoints. That has never been a Democrat, nor can I ever see it being one. If I think it's an extremely important race and don't believe my first choice can possibly win, I will begrudgingly vote for a lesser of two evils.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:05 AM
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As a black quasi-conservative, I completely reject the idea that racism is behind my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:01 AM
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I saw your list, realized how funny it was compared to mine, and responded. I changed your 'regardless of background' to 'regardless of reasons' because the word 'background' seemed odd in that context to me. Like, what background could justify a worldview that I think is fundamentally flawed? No, there truly was no joke in my response. It was serious. If you want to debate my positions, feel free, but they are true and 0% a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:50 AM
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I didn't take offense to any of them. Why do you keep saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:44 AM
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Not even remotely, your list makes perfect sense to me. I don't understand, what joke?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:40 AM
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My list was 100% serious. No joke, no /s. You and I seem to agree about annoyances but wildly disagree on life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:33 AM
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Not dating, but as a mental exercise, my list is: Body count > 1 Single motherhood. US liberal regardless of reasons. Vegetarian or vegan. Cat owner. Smoker.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:30 AM
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Far be it from me to contradict a woman concerning her deep and abiding understanding of men, but no. Men are not impressed by women being catcalled, even by their friends. They are impressed by men who manage to interact successfully with beautiful women. That is the goal, even though it's executed very foolishly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:41 PM
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They believe it's a compliment, yes. They are idiots who wouldn't recognize a quality compliment if it bit them in the ass, but yes, they truly believe it's a compliment. They would LOVE if a woman did the same to them. (Caveat: I'm speaking generally. Some men are absolute pigs who catcall because of a power dynamic. Some women enjoy being catcalled. There are exceptions to everything.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:21 PM
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I understand that's how most women view it, but the reason they view it that way is because of what I just said. I do not support catcalling women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:37 PM
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Because most men don't care about the opinions of other men as it pertains to their physical attributes, and, biologically, why would they? A male peacock does care what other male peacocks think about his feathers, he cares about what peahens think. Meanwhile, women don't care what some average guy's opinions about her looks are. If he's not a partner or potential partner, his opinions about her sexual worth are worthless to her. Almost no woman finds catcalling appealing for that reason, and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:34 PM
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What can I do to give a proper compliment without it leading to anything more? Depends on what you mean by 'anything more.' If you mean the possibility he might attempt a connection (ask for number, etc.) than I honestly don't know. He might very well do that. You could say, 'I'm taken, this isn't a come on, but (compliment.)' You'd compliment a woman even though she might be a lesbian, right? I think context matters. A compliment at the grocery store is different than one at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 02:51 AM
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What you call superficial, I call something I'll remember the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:51 AM
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I've discussed this topic with guys before, but not in depth enough to feel comfortable speaking for men as a whole from here on out. For me, the hierarchy is something like unfamiliar women, unfamiliar men, familiar women, familiar men, relatives. As for the what, something that's me. My clothing is not me, it's just some mass produced fabric. Same with anything I wear or own really, unless I made it myself. My looks/body/voice is the most quintessential me thing, so that's top of the list. Up …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 01:06 AM
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I agree with this, and I’m sorry this is a wide spread experienced thing. Do dude friends ever compliment each other or is that like a no homo thing? We 100% do. We also 100% do not care about those compliments. Compliments from men do absolutely nothing to help (most) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 12:11 AM
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I don't know why it got banned, but I know it wasn't that.
/r/MensRights21/09/22 12:07 AM
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That's good, although compliments from partners often have baggage, too. Compliments from a sister don't matter at all, really. Compliments from strangers are superior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 11:21 PM
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I'm not the person you responded to originally. I'm an MD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:44 PM
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There's a lot in the running for worst, but I'm going to go with one I haven't seen yet: never getting meaningful compliments. (Part 2 of this idea is women attempting to tell me what kinds of compliments are acceptable to desire and which ones are not.) Before the responses get jumpy, no, you complimenting my shirt isn't meaningful. No, you saying I did a good job at work isn't meaningful. No, my mom saying I have pretty eyes is not meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:24 PM
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SSRIs are well known to increase suicidal ideation in vulnerable populations. I wouldn't trade being horny for risking death.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:19 PM
1

If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 05:13 PM
1

If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 05:01 PM
1

Ah, so it does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:56 PM
2

Ah, explains why the flair exists, then. Wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 04:48 PM
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Wrong. I want it to exist and be exactly equal for both genders.
/r/MensRights20/09/22 04:14 PM
3

Interesting that you would isolate redpill and not bluepill, which is even more disastrous for society. Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:35 PM
2

Learn to give great head.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 01:03 AM
1

Yeah, you're pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:57 AM
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As a man, I want my partner to strongly desire me physically, value my intelligence, laugh at my jokes, and admire my skills in that order. In other words, body, brain, actions, sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:55 AM
1

You're pretty, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:49 AM
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that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:47 AM
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Pretty girl don't do that. Chubby girls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:32 AM
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Depends on the methodology. Are they gym rats or are they just dieting? A gym rat might work long term, but someone who just diet is almost always going to end up fat again. Might not be today, but I guarantee they retire overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 12:31 AM
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What is wrong with you. I DIDNT GOOGLE IT AS IVE BEEN SAYING THIS WAS THE STUDY LINKED Damn, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. That's even worse. Not really, speed dating is too similar to OLD and too artificial to prove anything Ah, so now that you got caught, you're saying it doesn't count. CLASSIC! So again we’re not living in reality here, why don’t you try it and time yourself. You sound delusional I've watched it dozens of times. It's you denying reality, unless you're a g…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 06:00 PM
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Why don’t you actually READ IT before making stupid accusations. I’m going to link it https://www.kaggle.com/code/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating **We can see that there is a great difference between what male and female participants are looking for. For male participants, the attractiveness of the female is given a lot more weight, and the ambitiousness or if they have any shared interset are ranked not as high. For females, the points are more evenly distributed acr…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 05:31 PM
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For the height thing yes, as I said the study showing women care more about looks actually had the opposite conclusion Either I'm crossing threads, or you're nuts. My source already showed womens looks matter MORE than mens already, if you can find something that shows the opposite then you can disprove my point It was provided to you already and you claim it reached an opposite conclusion. It shows women put more time, effort and consideration into their looks and being physically attractive. Y…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 04:10 PM
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1) It isn't. I'm sorry you've been deceived. 2) It's inaccurate that I've seen it many, many, many more times from women? Wow, so you're like, god, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 03:07 PM
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Any evidence ? Yes, and it's been provided to you. A tv show isn’t a source, the study he linked actually proved the OPPOSITE that women care less about looks then men Nor did I claim it was. I would ask for a source but it doesn’t exist. I have seen this happen with my own eyes Doubtful. Real as in it exists Thank you for evidencing my point. That doesn’t discount what I’m saying at all. Your argument was that women's looks matter more in the job market. I am discussing ways that men's looks ma…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 03:06 PM
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1) Toxic masculinity isn't a thing. Has never been a thing. Will never be a thing. 2) The people that do the actions you've described above are almost always women. I've seen and experienced it from men, absolutely, but many, many, many more times from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:46 PM
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The key is obvious: in person interest groups. It doesn't matter what it is, just find something that you are interesting in. Rock climbing, church, square dancing, etc. Find something that is a group activity that interests you and get plugged in. You'll be in person and have the opportunity to interact with people who share interests. Go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 02:34 PM
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Looking at the beauty industry, there has only relatively recently been a push toward body acceptance for women who are bigger. That's because it's the ONE remaining bastion of male preference, and they are trying to take that away, too. Men don't care that much about short or tall, they don't care that much about hair color, they don't care much about fashion, and they don't care much about what job women have. Many men prefer big boobs, but tons of us prefer smaller ones. Big ass is in vogue, …
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:15 PM
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Let me just make sure I understand all the absurd claims your making here women require someone significantly taller than them women care about looks just as much as men Not the person you're responding to, but yes, both of those are accurate when you are speaking from an aggregate. real life dating research shows that it is the same as OLD Well, speed dating, yes. It's been pretty well researched and well known for a long time that when time is a controlled variable, women are MUCH more looks f…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 02:09 PM
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No women are saying the “6 ft”, just because you can find a few dating profiles and TikToks doesn’t mean it’s a majority opinion. It doesn’t exist in the real world I'm an ugly guy. Objectively. I posses positive traits, but my face is not one of them. My wife doesn't care about that, and didn't when we met. Want to know what she told me when asked why she approached me initially? 'I liked what you said, and you were tall.' 'What if I wasn't tall?' 'Good thing you were, I don't like short guys.'…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:18 PM
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The reality is “incel” is an ideological movement and the only times I’ve heard people called that is online when they say something misogynistic. Then you've not done much reading on reddit. Things I've been called an incel for: 1) Posting in this sub. When they don't like something I say on an unrelated topic, they go comment history, see this sub, and use the word. This has happened many, many times. 2) Saying that men and women should be treated equally by the government in all ways. 3) Sayi…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:11 PM
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believeallmen
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:00 PM
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As someone who’s had a ons, it was an awful experience. I never did it again. I am however a woman and I don’t think women can enjoy Ons in the same way men can. Love is by far the best feeling in the world imo and I’d be happy never having sex with another man besides my bf in my life. Sure, but someone sleeping with you purely because they find you attractive is pretty validating I would think. In my life, I've very rarely been hit on. The extremely few times it has occurred were all extremely…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:55 PM
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I agree, nothing can compare to the euphoria of true love. lol. I don't think that's required tbh. In fact, I can easily see why a random hookup would be more validating than true love sex. That said, I could be wrong, I've never had the former. However, sexual validation/romantic is not the only form of validation out there. For most men, it is. She’s still one of my happiest friends though. She’s got a big family w lots of brothers and sisters, lots of friends and academic achievement. She’s o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 03:40 AM
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I do too, but that's not the same. Validation comes from being desired, and prostitutes only desire your cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 02:52 AM
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Who cares? I already knew my pain was valid. I didn't need to be told. A starving man doesn't need to be listened to, he needs food.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:50 AM
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I knew the root issue, I was regularly physically rejected. A therapist couldn't change that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:40 AM
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I'm much more physically appealing now than I was then. Why would I blame that? Because I was told that, directly, by multiple women. I was mocked for my appearance several times. It was openly acknowledged by others. My wife, fortunately, is a sapiosexual, and my looks weren't a big deal. Plus, she was very insecure herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:39 AM
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Hammering on is pointless. Talking doesn't solve problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:35 AM
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I was ugly. No insight was needed. As for coping, that's stupid. Solving the problem is (and was) a much better strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:34 AM
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I don’t expect men to ever fully understand the female experience in the same way other women can. That doesn’t make me depressed though, that’s what female friends/mothers/aunts are for. Lack of understanding didn't make me depressed, either. That’s so so wrong to expect your romantic partner to solve your mental health problems and dump it on them, that’s how relationships end. lol. Imagine believing your partner's needs is problematic. Seek therapy. No need, my marriage is awesome and my need…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:32 AM
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Your original comment literally insinuated that your lack of romantic relationship is the reason you attempted suicide. And that women didn’t take you seriously enough. Yes, and? What's your point? I was depressed because my needs weren't met. That's not anyone's fault, but no therapist can solve it, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:30 AM
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Like what are you actually asking for here? For women to actually seek to understand men. Nothing more. How is a woman without who’s not a liscenced therapist going to solve that for you? lol. A woman who's not a licensed therapist is MUCH more likely to be able to solve the problems most men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:26 AM
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Never claimed otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:22 AM
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Which, again, doesn't solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:21 AM
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That's like asking a starving person why she's not satisfied with an eternal spring of water. Talking, opening up, being vulnerable doesn't solve anything. Unlike women, men want to problem solve. Complaining about an unsolvable problem is pointless to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 01:09 AM
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Shroomer. Proomer. Broomer. Tumor. Dang it, it's on the tip of my tongue...
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/22 06:48 PM
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Man that likes to hike finds out that snake is venomous, man continues hiking but actively avoids snake. Snake is angry. :shocked face:
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/22 06:42 PM
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Why is mens mental health solely womens problem? It's not. Men need to learn to open up and be vulnerable to each other like women do. Which wouldn't help anything, because being vulnerable isn't a solution and won't accomplish the purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 06:02 PM
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1) Being an experienced is not required to have an opinion. 2) Four decades of lived experience as a man who also has many male friends of many diverse backgrounds is at least some level of expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:34 PM
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almost always the owner of a brothel was lady woman.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 03:13 PM
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Sorry, I'd list them all, but reddit has a 10,000 character limit.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:40 PM
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It absolutely is. I've heard it myself. This idea is not a myth. Edited to add: Many things get labeled victim blaming. Many of those are not actually victim blaming. However, I have heard comments that legitimately ARE victim blaming.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:36 PM
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If someone rants for two paragraphs claiming the sun is 15 miles away in his uncle's backyard, an extensive rebuttal is neither needed nor appropriate.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 02:21 PM
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Failed? More like dropped out in 5th grade and learned everything he knows from posters in the bathroom of the smoke shop.
/r/MensRights15/09/22 01:24 PM
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I think you missed my point. Probably on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:23 PM
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Depends on what you mean by 'a lot.' Numerically, sure, by percentage, absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:22 PM
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I'm sure you don't. You don't like the answer because it upsets your flawed worldview, so you must find a way to cope with it. The easiest way is to deny its reality. I couldn't care less. Every single word is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:21 PM
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I didn't make any claims whatsoever.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/22 12:37 AM
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So if a survey of 9,600,000 was gathered from the US, you'd say that would be too small to have any validity?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:07 AM
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You don't know that. You only know what she claims.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/22 12:01 AM
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As a teenager, I was lightly mocked several times for just asking a girl out. Once, it was in front of a group when I had the audacity to move from one room to another in an attempt to talk to a girl I liked. Granted, I was pretty ugly. The worst I've ever seen, though, was one I witnessed. My buddy approached a woman and tried to make small talk. No pickup lines or jokes, just casual. The woman's response was, 'no soul, no talk. Gingers are fucking ugly,' and then she turned away. It took him a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 08:08 PM
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That was the joke.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 07:38 PM
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I support someone leaving someone for any reason. Relationships should always be beneficial to your life. If yours is making you unhappy, GTFO. If you can't leave for pragmatic reasons, start making the necessary changes. Sounds like we found common ground. Huzzah! And as I said...my caring is for those who have earned it. Agreed. One of the ways it's earned is by not making excuses. And one of mine is by not being a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:25 PM
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Then how in the world can you think that this man is the hero of the story? Did I... say that? Could you quote me? I'd be very interested to read where I typed that thing you said I said. I was possibly in a fugue state... How can you think he’s justified in manufacturing meth just because he claims to be doing it for his family? Anything I want to put into my body should be legally allowed. I don't care what it is.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 07:23 PM
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Me too. Two, actually. One lost everything, including his life. Emotions don't change reality.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 07:11 PM
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Wrong-o. No such thing as a parasite that's the same species as the host, not to mention the many other biological facts that preclude that assertion. I'm all about removing intruder parasites, though. Watch.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 07:10 PM
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Alrighty. lol. Thanks for the laugh.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 07:09 PM
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I agree, women shouldn't complain. Women should leave husbands who don't communicate well, because they were foolish for marrying them to begin with lol Hey, as long as you remain ideologically consistent and advocate for men leaving women that stop having sex with them, I'm perfectly fine with that answer. You're still dancing around the central issue that you will not get to force women to date or fuck men they don't want to date or fuck. You have yet to offer any solution, anyway. This is you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:08 PM
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Most people avoid suicide by going to therapy where they express their feelings, In extreme cases they call a suicide hotline to (again) express their feelings. Yeah, that's just not true. Most people who want to commit suicide never go to a counselor or therapist of any kind. Not that a therapist can't be helpful, but it's not required for wellness and isn't the reason that most people don't 86 themselves. Most people don't do it because they retain hope that their circumstances will change in …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 07:05 PM
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Wrong-o. It ain't their body, and I'm tired of everyone pretending it is.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 06:58 PM
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Again...if it's working as intended, men should stop complaining. Ah, and women should stop complaining about husbands that don't communicate well. Give me a break. And no, I don't need to understand someone else's problem. I don't understand bipolar disorder, but I still support my husband getting treatment. Similarly, he doesn't understand my PCOS but supports me getting treatment. You want to argue that understanding is necessary because you think if I DID understand, my opinion would change.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:53 PM
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People who do drugs are idiots? Yep, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to do them. Yeah, we have nothing in common. Shocking. I’m glad you’re more willing to extend sympathy to the fictitious murdering drug-dealer than his victims. Which victims? I thought I was pretty clear that Walt harming the kid was absolutely unacceptable. Most of his other 'victims,' weren't victims. I'm actually in the process of watching back through the series, so if you want to give me a specific exa…
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 06:46 PM
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As someone who attempted suicide when I was young, no, I absolutely do not. Men are able to express their emotions just fine, we simply are not taken seriously when we do, especially when those feelings are expressed to non-familial women. Additionally, when our true feelings are expressed, they are often mocked and labeled rather than being accepted. This messaging begins young, and it's getting worse. Young men see other men express the same things that they are feeling and see what happens wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:41 PM
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Can't have it both ways. Here I am expressing concern for men's mental health, and you're rejecting that it's a problem at all. No, what you are doing is labeling basic biology as toxic and then advocating that men change it. May as well be arguing that we should turn the sky purple. If you were truly concerned about men's health, you'd advocate for understanding them first, and then advocating for practical ways that they could fulfill their biological drives. It's like if I were saying that ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:32 PM
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He said, 'most women get pregnant deliberately.' In order to disprove that, you'd need to show that most women do NOT get pregnant intentionally. Keep in mind, he didn't speak about pregnancies, he said 'women.' So far, you've not done anything close to that. Are we arguing beside each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:10 PM
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You're claiming that 75% of women never get pregnant intentionally? *doubt*
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:06 PM
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Because that's how reproduction works throughout the entire animal kingdom. It's not about health, it's about desperation. Why would a male praying mantis voluntarily die for sex? That's really unhealthy! What about Kalutas? Why would they ever mate if health mattered? Antechinus? Redback Spiders? Phascogale? The list goes on. The difference is that we don't care about the mental health of an animal that can't get laid whereas we (supposedly) care about men's mental health. I say supposedly beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 06:04 PM
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Hear me out here, 'most' means more than half. You claim 45% of pregnancies are unplanned, which inherently means 55% are planned. 55% is, if my math checks out, more than half. Ergo, the statement 'most women get pregnant deliberately' is factual. Check, check, check. Logical syllogism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:54 PM
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Just because you cannot relate to something does not mean that that something is in any way unhealthy. It's like a man saying that women feeling good when there is open, quality communication between them and their spouse is unhealthy. I mean, after all, many men don't care about that and can do without it, while women who have an uncommunicative spouse report high levels of dissatisfaction within intimate relationships. Considering that such interactions increase the odds of a continued relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:51 PM
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Walt is a human being, which is to say that he is deeply flawed. HOWEVER, his major failures don't arise until WAY after Skyler mistreats him. Poisoning the kid is irredeemable. However, prior to that, Walt pretty much just does what he needs to in order to survive. The show, at it's core, is about a man betrayed by both life and people. He gets screwed out of a company built on his genius, then gets screwed out of his health by cancer, then is repeatedly backstabbed and stolen from and threaten…
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 05:32 PM
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No, they aren't. However, a couple hundred thousand are gaining it, so that's pretty cool.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 05:23 PM
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She's terrible, yes, but she's not the worst. I'd post who I believe is the worst, but I'd probably be tracked down and shot by the reddit mob.
/r/AntiFeminists14/09/22 05:15 PM
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Well by definition right wing means supporting the authority / king / ruling class / elite No. It comes to mean that the left stands for equality and not respecting authority. Definitely no. Censorship is authority applied to free speech so is right wing. Not all opinions are equal and the rulers have better rights and must impose their will for the good of society - a right wing view. Shockingly... no. Wow, there's just so much wrong in there that it's difficult to understand how it could have …
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:13 PM
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That's... difficult to believe. There's nothing wrong with strong female characters, and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. EVERYONE loves Sarah Connor in T1/T2. That's different than today's strong female characters, which are largely two dimensional and written only to one up every male in her sphere.
/r/MensRights14/09/22 05:10 PM
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I think that's a minority opinion, for sure. Redheaded men are notoriously undesirable. Have been for a long time. I mean, heck, just look at major motion pictures. In movies (not cartoons or animated films), can you name a single movie where the primary love interest is a redheaded man? One? I doubt it. That's because women, as a whole, just aren't attracted to redheads. I've had this conversation with my buddy enough times to realize he's right. As another example, for many years sperm banks h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:52 PM
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Not a chance. My best friend is a great dude, funny, loyal, 5'11, pretty good facially, but he has red hair. The number of times he's been rejected for that is unbelievable. He's been rejected by proxy even. I've tried to hook him up multiple times, but as soon as I mention red hair, women shut me down. So, no, I don't agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:33 PM
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So your view is that in order to be agreeable/submissive, a person must say yes to every single proposal ever given? more likely to not be able to say no. Not be able to? So this person has no agency? None at all? Couple that with societal factors like the normalization of casual sex and sex before marriage - it's pretty unusual to wait until marriage these days if you're not religious. It's also unusual to be a millionaire, but that doesn't mean it's undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:29 PM
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I'm asking why you aren't willing to engage with someone who has a viewpoint opposite yours? My personal experiences aren't what demolish your point, it's the idea itself that did the work. Saying no is a perfectly valid option, and your dismissal of it is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 07:17 PM
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I've turned down 4 women in my life. Two before marriage, two after. None of them were supermodels. I notice your quick exit after your point was demolished.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:51 PM
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Yeah expecting a young woman not to cave in a hypersexualized, pro-promiscurity culture is like expecting a young man to say no to a naked supermodel sprawled out on his bed. Sounds like your teenage years were very different than mine. I never had that happen, not even once. Young women aren't anymore resistant to impulses than the men of the same age. This belief seems to hold very young women to a much higher standard than their male counterparts. Young men can say no, too. I did. I've been w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:43 PM
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Order and scale: 2 Grand Canyon sized gap. 3 The distance from Earth to the Sun 1 I'm willing to provide the reasons, if asked, but they seem so obvious to me that I don't see the need to do so upfront.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:24 PM
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I don't believe that is true within the context of marriage. Pleading, sure, bargaining, yes, but coercion? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 04:03 PM
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Ah yes, a classic. Rape only counts if it's not the thing women do. Misandry is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:54 PM
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Honestly? I would actually say it's probably pretty close to 50/50. Men are certainly more likely to do so with physical force, but women use their words to manipulate men who don't want sex into doing so. I understand that the natural urge is to defend women at all costs, even from themselves, but reality is that there are crappy people of both genders. Lots of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:39 PM
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You're clearly wrong, unless you are also positing that young and hot is inherently tied to being an idiot. Add in submission and agreeableness, chances they're going to end up with the wrong person because they will say yes to one of the guys swarming her, who is only pretending to be nice or interested in the same things as her due to wanting her body. The only way she ends up saying 'yes' to the wrong guy is if she's an idiot. She simply needs to wait until he commits (marriage) before choosi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:34 PM
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Of course I’m sure the laws in place legalising marital rape were there to protect women. You know that married men can be raped, too, right? ...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 01:14 PM
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You could, but it's an extremely compelling theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:51 PM
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men who view bad outcomes as inevitable are like...losers right? like is there any other scenario where its okay for a man to surrender to destruction and he isn't a bitch. you're getting cucked out of life. by death. Well, I'm an MD who retired early that's been married for almost two decades with two extremely bright kids. If that makes me a cucked bitch... okay? i dont really think the political rifts are all that bad. ppl disagree, thats cool. i just think the extremism and trump type folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:47 PM
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You should read a book called 'The Fourth Turning' by Howe and Strauss. Regardless, you can mock me all you want, I don't care. Mocking isn't a good way to change someone's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:38 PM
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Do you come here for entertainment because it'll eventually get engagement from entitled young men? Do you enjoy the process of disproving their delusions? I like to debate, and I like to call out blatant misandry like that. The most delusional, entitled people I see here are (usually) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:44 AM
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its not a war overseas its literally on your doorstep. your saying society is going to collapse like its no big deal, what the fuck? hahaha Huge deal, but I view it as inevitable. well i think generally humans are pretty good at solving problems when we pull together and apply some innovation so im in favor of doing that Explain how. Seriously, how do we solve our political rifts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:32 AM
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Denial of reality is pretty idiotic, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:27 AM
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I don't believe that we can save society. We are headed towards inevitable destruction. The social divide we've created is simply too wide to heal. I'm not sure what form it will take, civil war, regular war, or literal societal collapse, but what else can happen? Serious question. I'd surrender to no one, but I've no interest in fighting a war overseas. Do you under that metaphor?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:26 AM
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It's primarily an acknowledgement of the reality that society is already beyond saving. We can affect ourselves and our communities in some ways, but society as a whole is completely screwed. It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. I still support it, I still did my part, but I understand why others don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 02:20 AM
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For me personally, no. Once she's been in a hoe phase, there's no coming back. The ship has already sunk. That said, I'm married and not in the market, so my opinion is probably irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 11:07 PM
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Just because a freedom exists (and should) doesn't mean it will be (or should be) commonly accepted. It's not anyone's job to change society. I'll fight to the death to protect people's right to say heinous things, but I'll mock them relentlessly for those awful things. (I don't support mocking people for how they dress, I'm simply trying to explain.)
/r/MensRights11/09/22 10:34 PM
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First, we take responsibility for our fellow men. Then, we are allies to the women. Then, and only then, can we truly ask for change from the bad women out there, otherwise we come across as whiny man-children. Absolutely not. This paragraph is why you deserve every downvote. It's not our job to 'take responsibility for our fellow men.' If you want us to call out evil first, yes, I agree, but we should call out ALL evil, not just the evils committed by men. We should not be 'allies to the women,…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 09:21 PM
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Sounds great. I'll continue advocating in favor of equality and the fair treatment of men, and you keep voting to empower people who hate you and your son and want them to be legally debased. Perfect ending.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:48 AM
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I grew up in SW Chicago, desperately poor. Until I was about ten, I rarely knew if I'd actually get to eat dinner any particular day, and school was my only truly consist food. We washed clothes at a local shelter, and those clothes were 100% donated. It sounds like you don't know much about anything.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:42 AM
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lol you’re trying to convince me I’m wrong for making the choices that keep my children well fed and my house warm in the winter. Wrong on two counts. First, I'm not trying to convince you at all. Sheep don't sheer themselves. I'm trying to convince the other people reading this thread. Second, if I were also trying to convince you, I'd be attempting to show you that you can achieve greater heights on your own merits than when you depend on a daddy to help you. Yes feminism hurts my son, but not…
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:35 AM
1

Yes, you are. It's fine. Every society has sheep. Yelling at them won't change their nature.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:26 AM
1

I'm fine with collective bargaining. Absolutely fine. What I'm not fine with is mandatory union participation. Ideas so good they must be mandatory is a longtime Democratic ideation.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:19 AM
1

True, but I know a LOT about unions and, with extremely rare exception, think they should fuck off. Anyway, you won't be convinced by an internet stranger. You'll keep voting for the enemy. Sheep always do.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:15 AM
1

Bullshit. YOU are the reason you are able to provide a good life for them. YOU. And you'd be able to provide an even better one if the union wasn't squeezing you for cash.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:07 AM
2

lol. They are evil, but they are Dr. Doofenshmirtz evil compared to Democrats.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 02:00 AM
1

Vote against what will ruin your children's lives, not help your stupid union. Unions are just fundraising arms of the misandristic Democrat party. So fine, don't vote Republican, they suck, but don't vote for people who literally hate you.
/r/MensRights10/09/22 01:59 AM
3

No, you don't get it. Fat is controllable, ugly isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 01:07 AM
5

Nope, you missed the point there and so do others in the manosphere. It was never about be a nice guy and simp women, it was about be a decent man and you will get a relationship. Which, many found, was a load of BS. Being a decent man, today, is not enough. It wasn't then, either, but it really isn't now. 2000ies was misogynistic and toxic af. Women were super objectified and men (not all but too many, like on the daily) acted entitled. Catcalling, name calling, creepy ways of trying to get a w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:22 PM
-1

The opposite. A man who truly follows RP long term is ideal marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:03 PM
1

I believe in love. I've been in love for a long time and don't see any reason that should change going forward. That doesn't change or have anything to do with my views on the current state of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:57 PM
5

Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that. No bueno.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 07:48 PM
4

Yep, there definitely are, I'm not denying it. Everyone is attractive to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:22 PM
8

I should have said, 'to me.' Obesity is a mood killer for me. Always has been, always will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 07:15 PM
4

Examples?
/r/MensRights06/09/22 07:08 PM
0

It's not about disagreeing, it's about respecting property and respecting people. If I'm on someone else's property and disrupting an event others are benefiting from and they tell me to leave and I refuse, yeah, anything that happens next is my fault. Clearly. lol
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/22 06:49 PM
0

Instead, when a pupil is disruptive, call their parents and they ALONE handle their kid. So... just screw all the kids that weren't being disruptive? Just... go to hell? Involving the police in the classroom is one of the most disgusting practices I've ever seen. Can you imagine the trauma that little girl and everyone else in the classroom felt? I often felt traumatised in class as a kid, but it was by those disruptive kids. I guess you couldn't care less about kids like me? For everyone seeing…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/22 06:38 PM
12

It's toxic, and denial of that fact is gaslighting.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 06:35 PM
0

Not remotely, I just have a very different worldview than you. I don't believe in proportional force, I believe in solving the problem as fast as possible. This chick disrupts class. Proportional force takes 15 minutes to resolve, this action takes 2. That's 13 minutes saved for all the students who weren't being disruptive. Call me names all you want if it makes you feel better about your pussy worldview, but don't think for a second it has anything to do with you being intellectually superior.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/22 06:26 PM
3

Huh? It matters a lot. A fat ass on an obese women is not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:22 PM
13

That when involved in active dialogue, men are significantly better listeners than women. Men hear what is said. Women interpret what was said, and often with a significant amount of personal bias thrown in.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 06:20 PM
1

So what's the student, exactly? A role model? You disrupt class, you get asked to leave. You refuse, you get made to leave. Pretty simple.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/22 06:17 PM
2

And probably illegal Nah, some people are into it. Lots of kinks out there. Mine is fife and drum napkin rings, personally, but I'm vanilla.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:37 PM
-2

Good cop, but bad example. He got fired, so... pass was reinstated.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/22 01:10 PM
4

Using gendered language towards prostitution shows how callously people view men. Even the OP is passively suggesting that male prostitutes don't count. That's all wrapped up within my point.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:08 PM
2

If changing genders ever becomes as legally simple as ticking a box, I'll switch genders (legally) immediately. The advantages for women are simply too great to pass up.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:03 PM
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Where prostitution is legal and above board, and the woman has control over her own "business", both parties have something to gain from it (financial gains for her, sexual gratification for him) and neither is exploiting the other. Unfortunately in cases of forced prostitution and human trafficking, the female definitely is being exploited. So, in your mind, male prostitutes don't exist? Fascinating. I don't exactly have the facts and figures to back myself up here, but I would hazard a guess t…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 12:50 PM
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-If a guy sleeps with many girls, he is a winner, if a girl sleeps with many guys, she is a slut. This is society, and it's rational. Women sleeping with many men is easy. Men sleeping with women is extremely difficult. Society rewards difficult to achieve things over easy to achieve things, and always has. This isn't an issue, it's an attempt to deny reality. -Women are more pressured to look beatiful. Why do you think they do all their makeup everyday ? Whenever I got a new girlfriend first qu…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 12:39 PM
1

So which part are you calling a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:21 PM
2

Yeah, I agree with that, too, but I don't view 'drain your bank account' and 'stay at home mom' as synonyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:16 PM
3

We may define conservative differently. Most conservative women I know want to move to an acreage, raise the kids and some chickens. Stay at home moms for sure, but wise ones that only spend what's necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 12:06 PM
2

I got banned from AskFeminists for saying that misandry existed.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:08 AM
9

From experience, an actual conservative woman won't (usually) drain your bank account. Other than that, I agree with your entire post and did everything you suggested. 9.8/10, would recommend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:58 AM
0

Done. My apologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:40 PM
-1

Male here. My wife isn't a feminist and I would never have dated one. We both find equality far too important to choose a partner who is not invested in that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:39 PM
1

No, absolutely not. I'm in favor of true equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:08 PM
15

He's a man. Even if the law exists, who would enforce it against women? No one, that's who.
/r/MensRights05/09/22 05:02 PM
1

Not at all. Like me, my wife finds actual equality extremely important.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:59 PM
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I've seen crap like that a lot. I've also seen it work A LOT. It's one of those, 'it ain't stupid if it works' kinda things I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 04:51 PM
5

Never found this to be true at all as an adult. Must be the crowds you run in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 03:05 AM
2

It's fine. I was momentarily an illiterate moron. No harm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:38 AM
2

Yeah, that's because when men attempt to organize, we get called incels and violent extremists. Back your racist bullshit right out the door, I'm black. Fuck off with that BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:36 AM
1

don’t believe that whether knowledge was acquired accidentally or intentionally somehow changes the quality or the benefits of the knowledge added. True, but it's relevant when you are giving advice to others. I've read, studied, and lived alongside a woman for my entire adult life. That's what I've done.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:33 AM
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Men either produce or die lonely. Women can do whatever they want and will be given handouts to maximize their individual potential to do so. If they want to do nothing, thru also have that choice. So... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:25 AM
-1

Cool story. Still waiting for the marches to make it a crime for women to rape men. When is that scheduled for?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:14 AM
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Yes, and far better and more efficiently than you, I'd wager. You recommended SPECIFIC books be read for the EXPLICIT purpose of better understanding women. My question is: What SPECIFIC actions have you taken for the EXPLICIT PURPOSE of better understanding men? What have you done INTENTIONALLY rather than as a happy accident of your reading habit? Your response to this will evidence whether or not you can read.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:09 AM
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Fair. Terrible phrasing. I was referring to a subset and was wildly hyperbolic. I rescind and submit for substitution: Men still can't be legally raped by ANY woman in most places.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 01:05 AM
1

You copied and pasted a non answer. You recommended specific action to men. I'm asking what specific actions you've taken. Don't be lazy, answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:56 AM
1

So... you're admitting my position is accurate. Thank you. If I'm forced to penetrate my wife, by definition, I wasn't raped. Back to my original statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:48 AM
1

Wrong. You are wrong. Look it up. Do the research. It's incredible how many places where female on male rape cannot occur from a prosecutorial perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:43 AM
2

Which literature have you intentionally consumed for the express purpose of better understanding and relating to the male experience? Posts like this tack on 'goes both ways' even though there's no intention whatsoever to encourage women to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:40 AM
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Women literally couldn't be legally raped by their husband in every state until 1976. It wasn't federally illegal until 1993. Men still can't be legally raped by ANYONE in most places. So take that outrage and work to give men what you're already privileged to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 12:35 AM
1

People who value living in reality? I dunno. Co-opting language is for losers.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 04:08 PM
1

Still no. Antichristian, perhaps. Faux-christian.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:56 PM
0

Absolutely. I grew up in an amazing Christian church that was supportive, pro lgbt, No, you didn't. You grew up in something, but it wasn't a Christian church. No Christian glorifies sin.
/r/MensRights04/09/22 03:42 PM
1

More self reported 'attempts.' It's cool to have tried, so more women say they have, nothing more.
/r/MensRights03/09/22 10:11 PM
1

We don't take people off life support when they are improving, which is what a child in utero is doing. Your comparison is tired, and it's neither logically nor functionally equivalent. Reply or don't, I couldn't care less. Killing a child is wrong.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:43 PM
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Because it's unrelated to abortion. This will be my last reply unless you get back on topic.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:11 PM
2

Not playing your game. Bring it back on topic or find a different poster.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:09 PM
3

We're talking about abortion, not life support. Any body that can ever, under any circumstances, regain consciousness, should remain on life support.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:04 PM
3

Make your argument or don't. I've made mine. Hypotheticals that don't connect to abortion at all bore me.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 08:00 PM
1

The individual's wishes and who is paying would be the big two, to me.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:58 PM
1

I said probably. I think there are many, many variables.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:54 PM
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Probably. But it's irrelevant to abortion, because that person IS NOT brain dead. Their brain is developing and getting better day by day.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:51 PM
3

Then there's a rational conversation to be had. When it comes to abortion, that's an extreme minority situation.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:44 PM
2

Depends on many factors, the most important is: will time lead to inevitable improvement? If it will, then no, they shouldn't be taken off.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:17 PM
1

No, but I'd definitely give them the 'right' to not be murdered.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 06:08 AM
3

A chunk of torn flesh is not a human being, it is human tissue that's actively dying. It's in no way comparable.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:50 AM
0

Yes, I am. I am opposed to killing innocent human beings in any situation where they can otherwise be saved from death.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:48 AM
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People who want to define which human beings count as human and which ones are okay to exterminate are not reasonable people and are rarely viewed favorably in a historical context.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:47 AM
2

Being a single mother is the hardest job in the world! Weird, because being a stay at home dad is easy as fuck. No /s
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:29 AM
5

You can 'not consider the sky to be blue,' but that would have no bearing on that, either. Your factually incorrect considerations are irrelevant.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:28 AM
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Oh no, child support isn't stolen. The right to abort isn't the right to refuse parenthood, Wrong. it's just a woman's body so she gets the choice to abort. Wrong again. Her body remains living afterwards. The child's body doesn't.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:26 AM
1

When you say bad skin, do you mean acne? If so, would you mind if I send you a DM?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:49 PM
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1) The small minority are highly educated, successful, focused, usually fit, and less agreeable than average. 2) The majority are formerly average looking women who played the field during their reproductive years but who got burned out on that lifestyle and then pretty much let themselves go physically. I'd say the average BMI in the group is 27-30.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 03:48 PM
2

Yes, which is exactly why I said what I said. Most women oppose true equality. They will give lip service to it in situations where there's no cost to women, but oppose it when there is. That's why SS is such a valuable tool to separate allies from liars.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:37 PM
2

I agree. That doesn't change what I said.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:21 PM
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Selective service is too valuable as a scouting tool to do that. It's absolutely the lowest on the pro-equality priority list in the US, and it serves as a valuable tool to distinguish women who call themselves feminists and claim to be truly pro-equality from women who actually are pro-equality.
/r/MensRights29/08/22 02:19 AM
1

Sounds... even worse? It's all about what each individual specifically values.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 07:27 PM
1

Radical taxes, unfortunately, among other horrendous things.
/r/MensRights28/08/22 05:27 PM
1

It's way mote than marginally. Tradcons have 80% RP overlap.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 04:15 PM
1

That's exactly my point. The desire exists independent from the alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:02 PM
1

That's also fine. Public airing of their idiotic opinions provides a public space to refute them AND increases intragroup bonds.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 09:29 PM
1

I know how to communicate, and 'Rule #3' doesn't help unless both partners participate. During conflict, that's rare. Sure, she gave plenty of excuses. What it boiled down to was, she didn't want to. Her sexual needs were fulfilled, and life was busy, so I should just be satisfied with what I got, regardless of whether or not it was enough to fulfill my needs. It's the same excuses every woman has ever given, no time, the kids are exhausting (even though I was the stay home parent for quite some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:33 PM
1

I'll continue to dialogue here as soon as I see the rules for women. Until then, I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:52 PM
3

it is not a "bait and switch" it is the natural ebbs and flows of sex in a long term relationship. So if a man is a great communicator and a quality partner (splits household duties) before marriage, but then after marriage refuses to talk to his wife kindly and stops doing any housework, would it be fair to say that it's just a 'natural ebb and flow' and that she can't rightfully call it a bait and switch? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:50 PM
1

A friend was complaining about a complete lack of BJs from his wife a few weeks ago. A few of the other men agreed and they were all complaining about a "bait and switch", in that their then girlfriends seemed to enthusiastically participate in oral sex, and other sex acts, yet once married both BJs and frequency of sex died down. Yep, absolutely. Especially oral, but both died down significantly a year or so into marriage. Before that, my wife's libido was at least equal to mine, perhaps even g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:42 PM
1

There's stuff to talk about in there, but if you aren't interested in equality, I'm not interested in bothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:37 PM
1

No, it's not. It's a lie. Basic communication skills are about dealing within reality. They are about dealing with facts. Facts aren't the only things that matter, but they always matter. Anyone who advocates pretending that they don't isn't interested in communication, they are interested in shadow boxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 05:09 PM
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Most of the people labeled as incels are just people with beliefs that differ from the feminist rhetoric. Most of the people who actually are incels are just frustrated young men who have allowed OLD to completely cloud their view of reality. They have some reasonable and rational complaints, but those complaints have been exaggerated by their time within various echo chambers. If given the right opportunity, they'd happily renounce most of the things they've ever said online in exchange for tim…
/r/MensRights24/08/22 04:59 PM
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That's the part that absolutely baffles me. How is it that one sex magically loses their ability to consent when they are drunk, but the other gender does not?
/r/AntiFeminists24/08/22 04:51 PM
1

I'm not even close to a troll. I love healthy dialogue and even debate, I just find your rules to be astoundingly misandristic, especially rule #3. In order to follow rule #3, I need to debase myself as a person and sacrifice everything that I value about who I am. I must pretend that that way of arguing is anything except insane and inappropriate. I must lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:49 PM
1

I figured. Wouldn't want to actually practice equality. Too much cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:42 PM
8

To be actively sexually desired from the get-go, you are absolutely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:13 PM
0

Oh man, I can't wait to see your rules for women. Outta be hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 04:12 PM
1

You went on to talk about the proposed 'rule' rather than the idea of saying it and being able to then call women who objected idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:11 PM
1

I asked: so if I posted rules for women that went against their nature and that were inherently offensive (such as, perhaps, 'put out any time your partner wants') I'd be justified in calling all the angry women 'complete idiots?'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:53 PM
1

I personally don't think any woman owes every man the exact same experiences as previous partners and men with that view are incompatible with me. Feeling comfortable and operating within your boundaries in paramount. I don't believe that, either. I'm simply saying that she'll have better results that way. I agree desire should be expressed as it's important in relationships for both parties but once again balanced with many other aspects. Being realistic is important - if you are a 60 year old …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:44 PM
1

That's not what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:42 PM
0

What sad entertainment, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:33 PM
1

On the first and second point you conceded. If that helps you sleep better, sure. If you would prefer to dwell in reality, no. You can determine that my third point makes sense as you have noted that timing and maturity matters. It's relevant logically, but irrelevant in reality. My initial point was that the choice will follow a relationship for life. That point stands firm. Your advice is not useful after a woman has already had sex on the first date and cannot undo that choice - if she recogn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:29 PM
1

My hope was that not every man on this sub was a complete idiot and that they'd see how rukrz like the ones I listed would make their lives so much easier. Ah, so if I posted rules for women that went against their nature and that were inherently offensive (such as, perhaps, 'put out any time your partner wants') I'd be justified in calling all the angry women 'complete idiots?' That would make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:10 PM
1

You are missing the point which is that you'll never 100% know someone's true desire and what drives their motivations. You can guess. True, but willingness for sex is proof of at least some type of desire. Lack of sex is proof of nothing. If sex is present in one interaction but not another, the only proof is in the former. That's better than nothing in terms of comparison. You acknowledge my flaw in your argument which is timing and maturity matters great. I don't care how men feel about this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 02:08 PM
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The woman has a different set of rules. These are just the rules for men. Of course. Women always play by a different set of rules. I did plan to do another post with the rules for women, but most peole responding seemed to hate these rules so now I'm not bothered. I'm not surprised. I do somewhat doubt that you would have done that anyway, though. My hope was that some people would see why rules like this can be useful, and ask for deeper explanations. Your hope was that you could write some ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:58 PM
5

Contrary opinions are a good thing. Echo chambers are dangerous.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 01:50 PM
1

I don't think you understand my question. Basic communication relies on honest communication and it's unlikely every woman will give a detailed accounted upfront. How many girls have you asked their n-count, the circumstances and could verify the accuracy? Liars lie. But it's the only realistic way to attempt to assess. If they are avoidant, you will probably be able to pick up on the general truth. I've asked one. I believed her. Then, later, I married her. Your view is mostly held by emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:48 PM
1

So... what is the role of a woman in all this? Should she, for example, learn how to argue with a man? In other words, keep it logical, factual, and about one topic? Why is the onus on men to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:21 PM
1

I meant people to broadly to refer to the broad spectrum of gender identity from men, non-binary etc. So... people. No need to say anything else. Sure you can get drunk with a girl but how in the first place will you know how she treated every guy before you? How will you know she has genuine desire? How will you know her n count? How do you know what she was like at 18 vs 28? Well, you'd ask. Basic communication is required. If something matters to you in a partner, you need to ask about it. Jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 01:09 PM
1

You fundamentally don’t get how women and people think - as it’s not a monolith. You seem to lack nuance and want an easy generalisation. Women... and people? Are women not people? People aren't a monolith, but short of discussing specific people by name, generalizations that hold true for many are the only logical way to have discussions online between strangers. Surely you understand that? You can never 100% know whether it’s your inability to create desire or whether it’s just that she grown …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:40 PM
1

I think it's you who don't get it. If you break it down to a hyper specific scenario where a person goes from an active alcoholic to a completely sober person, sure, fine. However, for most cases, when you compare 1:1, my argument holds. If she'll put out for Tyrone during the first interaction in some scenario, but won't put out for you in the first (or second, or third) interaction in the same scenario, you are clearly a lesser to her from an attraction standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:40 AM
1

Then you aren't actually arguing against my point. If you go out drinking with her, and she still rejects you drunk, Tyrone once again created a desire you didn't. Your argument is not strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:59 AM
1

I never mention rape simply highlighted that your point had holes. Have you heard of nuance? Nice backtrack. Undesired sex is rape. Your rebuttal is either about rape or it's no rebuttal at all. Ever heard of logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:06 AM
1

You are disgusting. You're projecting. I also never spoke about any body count and simple stated that a girl may have sex with what you term a "tyrone" but it could have nothing to do with him creating sexual desire. If she didn't desire it, it was rape. Try again. Your hatred, anger and lack of empathy towards women seeps out of you. Huh? None of that is remotely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 10:02 AM
1

Ahhh, the classic rape defense. No one is buying that 'yeah, my body count is 20, but I was raped every time.'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:53 AM
1

Then let's go out drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:35 AM
7

Your burden, your proof. You specifically said r/menhatersunite calls out misandry. Let's see it. Edits, oops, autocorrect strikes again. I meant r/twoxchromosomes
/r/MensRights21/08/22 11:43 PM
1

I.e. men just want to feel loved No, wanted. Desired. Lusted for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:28 PM
1

1) Reddit sucks. 2) Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:26 PM
1

Posts photo of wife.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 12:59 AM
1

An expert, or ones I'd give advice on? I needn't be an 'expert' to give quality advice, depending on context. I'd give marriage and relationship advice, for example, but am I an expert? Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:57 PM
1

As I said, you clearly are intensely biased and show a significant amount of hubris.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:08 PM
1

I remain unconvinced. I'm sure he did give bad advice, but I'm sure he also gave good advice. You know, like most people. Your bias against him is dripping from your post and makes it unlikely you can judge objectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:38 PM
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I doubt that. I find it much more likely that you just didn't like his advice, so you labeled it wrong. I doubt he was right about everything, who is, but I'll bet he gave more good advice than bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:59 PM
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I wish more guys knew that. We wish more women knew that men think exactly the opposite way. We want desire above (almost) all else. Anyway I think the solution here for girls (to avoid their man doubting our sexual attraction for them) is to not discuss how quickly you banged a Chad or Tyrone with your boyfriend as it doesn’t do anything for the relationship. If that's your takeaway, you may be in for difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:57 PM
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Honestly as a reasonably intelligent person, the amount of actual useful advice I have received over my lifetime is minimal. Doubtful. My experience is that most people label advice they don't like as unhelpful, regardless of how wise it may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:47 AM
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If Tyrone gets it day one, she's acknowledged he's created a sexual desire in her that is greater than her good sense. Meanwhile, if she's capable of withholding from you, you clearly aren't creating that same level of desire. That truth will follow the relationship forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:32 AM
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And we're 1.2 - 3.3% genetically dissimilar from apes. 2% is huge. You're radically underestimating the impacts of those differences.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 01:28 AM
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I was making an X vs Y joke in terms of the actual letters. If you don't think they are that different, you're blind.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 12:19 AM
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25% is a huge difference.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 11:46 PM
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Explain where you think these major differences are if you're so confident? That second X is pretty damn different.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 11:12 PM
2

That is a pretty deep blue take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:00 PM
5

Nope, this ain't it. Lots of ways to spice things up, and successful marriages do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:36 PM
2

It's genetic. Our biological urge is to pass on our genes, which is why all animals participate in various mating displays. The end goal of existence is pass on ourselves. To be rejected at that base level is, biologically, a worthless existence. Fight it all you want, but it's inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:43 PM
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We have tools to satisfy those instincts. Masturbation/sex toys. So people can satisfy those needs without involving another person. Spend hours finding someone who would be willing and persuading them to do it (not counting the monetary expenses for fancyer clothing, date, party) vs pulling your pants down (some have methods where they don't even have to pull the pants down) and masturbating for 5-10 minutes. That's an extremely naïve way of thinking about the goals of sex for men. It's not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:32 PM
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Yes the activity is known as "sex", but the whole reward of sex for men at least seems to be the validation that a woman desired them specifically. Yes, this x100. I've tried to explain this quite a few times, but it rarely is understood by women. Men don't just want to get off, they want to be wanted. To be desired. Not just passively, but actively and with deep enthusiasm. About ten years ago, my wife and I were out with friends and she seemed... distracted. I wasn't sure why, but it was clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:25 PM
2

Imagine believing that tickets have ANYTHING to do with driving talent. Hilarious.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:30 AM
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I agree 100%. This is a significant mental factor that it seems like women truly struggle to understand on almost any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:54 PM
1

I believe the first one ever opened recently in Florida. Miami Dade county I think.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 11:13 PM
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Society has for the last 2 decades failed young boys in socialization, in favor of empowering girls. And in so doing, it's failed girls, too. They've become increasingly divorced from reality and it's beginning to backfire. The skills gap is not gendered.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 10:57 PM
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That's 1s, 2s, and 3s. They have about the same difficulties as male 5s, 6s, and 7s.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 10:51 PM
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'He was probably abusive.' Bet that's been said hundreds of times.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 04:52 PM
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On the bright side, an arrest probably doesn't help her odds in court....
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:59 PM
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Boys Scouts, the YMCA, and the voting booth. (That last one was a joke, but a funny one.)
/r/MensRights09/08/22 02:02 PM
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I think (but may be wrong) that the OP is talking about gendered spaces in public, not private life. Forums, bars, businesses, gyms, spas, etc.
/r/MensRights09/08/22 02:00 PM
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Eh, yes and no. There are many laws that are wildly unpopular, ie, civil asset forfeiture. Likewise, there are many extremely popular ideas that never are codified, ie, term limits. Fortunately, we live in a system where each state gets to craft laws for its citizens so that citizens are free to live in places that align with their values, whether those values are about taxation, gun laws, child killing, or whatever else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:12 PM
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It's also a good thing that the majority doesn't rule as a collective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:37 PM
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They are human beings biologically of course but they are not fully formed human beings and don’t have the consciousness as one before a certain point. Irrelevant to the people who believe ALL human beings have value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:20 PM
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It’s not dehumanizing to state a fetus is not the same as a child. It’s biology - that’s why it’s classified as an embryo until 8 weeks and then a fetus after not a baby. No, you've got the biology deeply wrong. It's a human being, and a unique one, at conception. That's a biological absolute. They are a human being at conception. Fētus is just Latin for offspring. You can say they don't count as important and should be able to be killed without problem, but they are, genetically and biologicall…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 05:46 PM
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I didn't expect the argument to convince you, I was just explaining the other side's view. They view them as human beings and attempts to label any humans as 'less than human,' as Nazi level genocide. You'll never change that viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:57 PM
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Yeah, it's terrible when people don't think people should be raped so they want to pass laws to punish rapists; that's absolutely awful. They shouldn't force their ideological beliefs on others! Now replace rape with child murder and you understand the other side's view.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 04:24 PM
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When was the last time a liberal government (ie, California) passed laws requiring women and men to be balanced in any 'dirty' job? When has a trade school ever been forced to set up a program to get more women into 'dirty' trades? When have women ever rallied to be more 'represented' in 'dirty' jobs? Oh, right, never.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:12 PM
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But you agree with the OP and disagree with me right? I mostly agree with the OP, yes. In the US, women are consistently bailed out for any negative behavior they choose to engage in, and it happens at every level. What is that based on if you don’t have numbers and don’t believe any research in this area? And what makes you believe that house hold duties are on average 50/50 between men/women. Isn’t it a little naive to just assume that? Observation over decades. I'm perfectly open to research …
/r/MensRights08/08/22 01:37 PM
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It's pointless, but I'll do a short (US) version for you: “Men commit suicide more than women”>Yes, and nobody is saying that isn’t an issue. But it’s usually said in a ‘so we should stop talking about the women’s figures so much’ when the reality is that women ATTEMPT suicide far more often than men. Highly doubtful. Most true attempts at suicide are successful. It's quite simple to 86 yourself. What she's referencing is a study that relies on self-reported data. It's in vogue to have a trouble…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 01:25 PM
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I'm opposed. Abortion kills an innocent human being. I'm pro-equality.
/r/AntiFeminists08/08/22 01:01 PM
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Alrightly. You have no credibility either. Why would it matter what you think? Just because you like it doesn't mean it holds value. I have multiple peer reviewed studies published and I know what good studies look like. I don't care one iota about your opinion on it. The study you indirectly linked is trash. Simple as that.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 01:00 PM
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No, it doesn't, because your link still relies on personal, self-selecte, surveys. That is a garbage methodology for many reasons. If you can't understand why, you aren't trying.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 10:26 PM
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A cool visible tattoo, I'm black enough that no tattoo is cool. cool hair Male pattern baldness says no. a skateboard Not cool if you're 40+ and can't ride it. Or just go on living without receiving compliments from random strangers. It's not that bad. Opinion. And compliments are obviously positive comments about your appearance, personality, abilities, etc. Couldn't possibly care less about the last 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:47 PM
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Ah. And when you don't have anything out of the ordinary, as most guys don't? What then? any compliments from (female) friends, acquaintances, co-workers, etc. That's pretty damn hard to believe. It's really not, depending on what you define as a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:31 PM
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Bonus: do you enjoy being complimented when it is simply a transient interaction as you go about day to day life? Forgot to say that the above is the best and most meaningful compliment to receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:22 PM
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You are a distinct minority. As a man, getting compliments from female strangers is rare. I won't call you a liar, but I'm intensely curious about context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:20 PM
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Because it's a fact of life for most men. It just is. Strangers do not compliment us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:35 PM
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I knew it was useless to come here with actual numbers. It get’s discredited every single fucking time. It’s either funded by feminists, not the preferred investigations method etc. In reality, you just don’t like what the study says and that’s why try to discredit it. No, it's just crap methodology. Would you still discredit it if it said something you liked? Absolutely, because I care about truth, not some preconceived idea. Also, every single fucking study shows that women do more housework, …
/r/MensRights07/08/22 08:34 PM
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As suspected, the 'study' referred to in your article is based on self reported survey responses. Notoriously unreliable methodology, and they don't even attempt to acknowledge that studies generally indicate that women are more likely to misjudge the passage of time. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.3954#:~:text=Females%20consistently%20gave%20longer%20estimates,but%20not%20in%20female%20students.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 06:53 PM
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I've looked for such and never found anything that actually did so. Link em up. Planning parties isn't a household chore, though planning a doctor's visit is.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:21 PM
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Women often have a lot more of the household duties, and that’s worth something as well. Common claim, rarely examined. Women often have more of the household duties if you don't count all the things men stereotypically do as household duties. Mow the lawn, trim the hedges, shovel the snow, change the oil, replace the spark plugs, repair the outlet, maintenance of all kinds, build the shelves, maintain the WiFi, and, and, and. I'd argue that in most households, the division of labor is very clos…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 05:14 PM
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No, but it's still ugh, because many men do the exact same thing but aren't as lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:06 PM
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Yeah, but I got lucky and it worked out. Based on my life since, I'm glad I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:59 PM
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I married the first woman I ever felt was truly into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:51 PM
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I don't pursue women, I'm married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:43 PM
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AA is, at its core, a racist methodology and it should not be allowed to stand.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:23 PM
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As a man, I've been complimented by a man many times, pretty much always during sporting activities or when they see my wife. Certainly not anywhere approaching once a day though. Maybe.... 5-10 times per year from that demographic? Compliments from women I don't know have happened three times since I became an adult. So, on average approximately once every 8 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:42 PM
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I'm wildly flattered any time any stranger comes on to me. Both times were awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 01:36 PM
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Sounds like a skills issue to me. If someone doesn't have the talent to travel at the prevailing speed of traffic, they shouldn't have a license. They risk their health and the safety of others.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:33 PM
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Alrighty. In that case, I can at least understand people who say A even though I'm sticking with B.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:51 AM
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Question: Are both of them equally attracted to me? Or does B think I'm the hottest person imaginable, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:46 AM
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B, no question. I could see A as the obvious choice if you hadn't said: Borh of them meet your standards in other areas be it education, income, domestic skills, skills with kids, n-count, skill in bed, whatever. However, including that, B. In that scenario, after all, I can still have everyone I want, because my friends still exist and all the things I'm missing I can ethically find in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:38 AM
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Anyone who expects people to operate anything perfectly when stressed is a fool. I don't know the roads there, but I know that getting trapped behind a slow moving car for miles and miles and miles is a form of torture and is a regular occurrence here.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 02:35 AM
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I think the passive version of this is extremely common. In fact, I'd say 95% of marriages. Small, background choices made for the sole purpose of increasing the man's odds of getting some.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:41 AM
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If your rotations were anything like mine, you don't know much of anything about what was the true cause of most accidents, and certainlynot fatalities. The dead can't give their side. I've lost count of the number of near accidents and actual accidents I've seen directly caused by drivers doing 5, 10, 15 under the speed limit, leading to increased risky driving to get around the idiot. If that maneuver results in death, the idiot will never get counted as the cause. Distracted driving is a legi…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:23 AM
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Ok. There's many lifetimes worth of anecdotal evidence, and in this case, that's enough for me.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:05 AM
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My point is that women are more likely to drive slowly, which increases speed variance, which increases likelihood of accident and especially significant accident.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 11:01 PM
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So... is that a no? I cited 3 studies, not 1, and those studies were cited concerning speed variance, not gender.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 10:36 PM
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Physics tells you that the large the speed differential the more force on impact. So... you agree with me that speed variance is a big deal? What about the other studies which address it more directly?
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:34 PM
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lol. Nice tie in.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 07:33 PM
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Disagree. Setting firm boundaries is critical.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 01:18 PM
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Distractions are a major factor as well. driving over the speed limit. The speed limit isn't the issue (re: Autobahn) it's the variance. One can easily argue that women are much more likely to be the major outliers that increase variance. Studies about variance: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30265907/#:~:text=Higher%20speeds%20coupled%20with%20greater,rather%20than%20their%20individual%20effects. Aarts, L. & Schagen, I.N.L.G. van (2006). Driving speed and the risk of road crashes; A review Sol…
/r/MensRights06/08/22 01:17 PM
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Get video evidence. A lot of it. Then tell her that she changes, or you leave.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:18 AM
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Dexter was a (obviously hypothetical) force for good in the world. With the possible exception of Rankin.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/22 04:17 AM
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What is more likely to stop a violent criminal from hurting future victims. Death is 100% effective.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/22 04:06 AM
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Nope, it doesn't. It says you don't care about that criminal's future victims. It's sick.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/22 03:58 AM
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That makes you a sick fuck. It basically says, 'I don't care at all about innocent people.' It's sick.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/22 03:55 AM
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You've got it exactly backwards. If a violent criminal getting their rightful comeuppance doesn't please you, you're 100% a sick fuck.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/22 02:33 AM
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Most of the OP is pure feminist projection. It's difficult to overstate how off-base most of it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:30 AM
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you're saying that women have generally "unreasonable" levels fear and caution? Do you mean about driving in particular or in general? Not who you're responding to, but yes. The #1 cause of major accidents is speed variance. By driving too slow, speed variance is increased, leading to increased major accident rates. The majority of slow drivers are women, which shows an 'unreasonable level of caution.'
/r/MensRights06/08/22 02:08 AM
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Except child birth. Biggest risk is losing a hand.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 02:05 AM
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>That’s not even remotely the point of this post I disagree. >And yes, there’s an enormous difference if you married someone for their huge boobs vs if you married someone because they’re kind. No, there's not. Either way, you married for self-gratification. However, thank you for supporting my argument. >My intention was simply to find out if there are things ADDITIONALLY that men like in women that aren’t immediately and directly self serving. Anything can be indirectly self serving. There's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 05:08 PM
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This doesn't belong here at all.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 04:52 PM
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Because that deflates their ego. They want to believe that all their criterion for choosing a mate are superior to the heathens who choose different criterion to place their value in. It's self-aggrandizing nonsense. It doesn't matter if you marry your spouse because they are intelligent and kind or because they are smokin' hot and give great head. Either way, you are making the choice for your self-gratifying ways. Neither person is superior to the other at any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 01:44 PM
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I'm not even remotely doing so. I'm sitting beside my wife and both of us agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:53 PM
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B) something that someone does purely FOR you, that may or may not make them happy, that is literally solely for your benefit I benefit as much from pleasing my wife sexually as she does. Even if it's not reciprocal, I benefit and enjoy it. It's NOT 'literally solely for her benefit.' I never said that the two things were 'identical,' that was your addition. I said both were self-gratifying. I stand by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:42 PM
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Explain to me how listening to someone talk about their passions is self gratifying. I feel happy when people I love are happy. Happiness is self-gratifying. I feel happy when my wife pleases me sexually. Happiness is self-gratifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:35 PM
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I literally never said it was bad to like the self-gratifying things. I literally said those words in my OP. I know, I acknowledged that when I said, "As the OP said, it's not 'bad' to like those things, but it's certainly 'worse' than valuing the first list." IDC what your self-serving preferences are. We all have 'em. Except you label some as self gratifying and some as not, even though they all are. Clearly, you believe some are more dignified than others. There's no such thing as a positive …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:02 PM
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No problem at all, and if you decide to follow up later, feel free. No rush.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 08:54 PM
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I'd volunteer.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 08:52 PM
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I'd volunteer.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 08:26 PM
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Tons of great women exist, you simply need to learn how to tell them apart from those women who couldn't care less about you. Don't fall into the trap of believing that women are the enemy; they aren't.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:18 PM
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>I see your point, but I think she was looking for anything not obviously beneficial to us men. Yes, I know, she was looking for a unicorn. No such thing exists, either for men or for women. Instead, what we see is people attempting to pretend that some things are good and acceptable things to value in a partner (intelligence, sense of humor, etc.) and other things are 'lesser' (looks, mostly.) As the OP said, it's not 'bad' to like those things, but it's certainly 'worse' than valuing the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:49 PM
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They don’t serve me in any way, but I’m glad he’s happy. Gladness is self gratifying. Gladness is a nice feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:06 AM
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I think you are certainly correct about a lot of that, but not the portion where you posit that men dismiss women as not solutions oriented because they dismiss the first part. I think many men dismiss women as not solutions oriented because we've watched so many women dismiss the second part. I think most men always want both things from women, emotional support and solutions, but I think women usually just want emotional support from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:58 AM
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I'm, in my heart of hearts, an ardent realist. I also strive, above all else, for objectivity. I knew what she said was true. Should I be angry about hearing the bad half of the truth, or grateful that I lucked into the good half? I'm not without value, it's just not in my facial appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:57 AM
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Yep, and when people try to glorify one type over another, it cracks me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:38 AM
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You’re moving goal posts? Now you’re focused on “looks-match”? Hm. No, not in the slightest. My original reply clearly mentioned the differing thresholds between genders. Did you read too quickly? That’s a false equivalence imo, since what arouses women is not just “looks.” Perhaps, perhaps not. I've known a couple women happy to bounce around on the hot guys. A man who is a 6 in looks may feel as though his SMV is higher than a woman who is a 5 in looks. But because men don’t care about behavio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 01:05 AM
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So the threshold in your case wasn’t beauty, it was height. The threshold differs per woman. It differs per person, absolutely, but there are recurring categories and each person has a different hierarchy for them. But in my observation, most men who are mid-range (looks and height or some combo) and higher pass the threshold. Aka Average Joe usually passes it, as long as he’s behaviorally not a dunce. Today, I disagree. I'd have agreed with you completely 30 years ago. Most men, today, in the U…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:49 AM
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What is there to say? I'm married, and I'm the perfect example of the threshold. My wife told me straight up that the only reason she was initially attracted to me was because I'm tall. I'm not a facially attractive guy and without my height, I'd have been out of luck. The threshold is real, and the two genders have radically different thresholds, which leads to much weeping and gnashing of teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:38 AM
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Saying all that without addressing the 'looks threshold' is a waste of time. Most people agree with you, but most people aren't saying what you claim they are. Most anger revolves around the VERY REAL looks threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:30 AM
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And yet, you weren't. Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:21 AM
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Smart/intelligent I get good conversation and help from smart people. Pretty self-gratifying to me. Funny I get to laugh. Pretty self-gratifying to me. Independent I don't have to constantly watch out for her. Pretty self-gratifying to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 10:23 PM
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1, my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:14 PM
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An unlikable female protagonist?! Wow.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 07:02 PM
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Shouldn't the 'sex work is real work' crowd be perfectly okay with this?
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:40 PM
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If they think you are physically ugly, they will react with disgust or surprise that someone 'like you' could date someone 'like them.' The facial response is basically involuntary, and I've seen this work many times. Oddly, it was my wife who first mentioned this idea to another single friend, and he ran with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 03:32 PM
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I am, and I did not. A minority is a minority. It's interesting how nasty behavior looks so similar regardless of who's the majority. So then how would you possibly know? You state it so confidently, but in reality, you have zero idea. It's pretty readily... I mean, you could argue a couple other factors: class, mental health. But the cops here are encouraged to have egos. And yes. That's certainly the root of that problem. It's ego, mostly, not race. It seems like you agree.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:17 PM
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That's an interesting perspective. My area of the country, that is not a game that's been played at all. Are you white? Did you grow up in a school where you were a fractional minority? They'll hurt people over skin color readily. Readily? Doubtful. I believe I've been pulled over for driving while black, but never anything close to 'hurt.' That situation is rare, and almost always starts from the person taking a purposefully antagonistic approach to the officer. Now, granted, that's still an is…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 03:42 AM
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If you're interested in someone that isn't a stranger, casually mention that you once dated someone that looked 'so much like them.' Watch carefully. If they react with disgust, they definitely aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 01:10 AM
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Hmm. Interesting. Following.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:08 AM
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1) I don't know what that is. 2) It'll get banned, too.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 11:08 PM
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Reddit app errored. My bad. Let me do some clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 09:31 PM
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Wait you think this is caused by misandry?!? Yes. MEN are the biggest pushers of toxic masculinity. That's not a real thing. Again you think women push this narrative of big dicked chads being the goal? I've never had a man say anything about the size of my genitals, except in positive jest. Woman, otoh, have made MANY jokes about them, even though only a couple of women on the planet have actually seen them. Small dick jokes are the territory of women. Negative. You teach EACHOTHER and subject …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 08:55 PM
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>Apologies for my assumption. No worries. >Totally. There's all kinds of prejudice. I think everyone is working from the vantage point of generalized assumptions. It's a huge problem. The term 'prejudice' is often used to avoid saying 'racism.' That's the word you should have said. >There is a point of fact that people aren't treated equally in society. POC experience more racism than white men. It's not that they don't experience any. Just less. Not my experience at all. I grew up in SW Chicago…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:20 PM
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This is a difficult conversation to have. To say it's rarer than most people believe while you're not experiencing it, it's very difficult. The experiences above are not my own. I'm a tall black dude, I'm always picked lol. I don't experience it personally. I have, however, seen it happen in front of me. I do, occasionally, but I've seen just as much against other races as well. It's an everyone problem.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:57 PM
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I don't see this one. My wife is insecure. She's also the opposite of a feminist. I think there are a lot of correlations that can be found, but insecurity isn't one of them.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:00 PM
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Any day now.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:40 PM
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lol. Have a great life.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:19 PM
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No.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:15 PM
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Yes, you were, thank you for admitting it. No need to 86. The US is not the whole world, but I keep my comments isolated to the US because it's what I know well enough to speak on. In the US, men are a minority. That's a basic, factual statement. You clearly do not know what the word 'literally' means.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:14 PM
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Good thing we didn't actually put money on it, then! My apologies. Nonetheless, talking to strangers is NOT weird in many places. It's not a universal truth by any means.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:05 PM
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It's really, really not. Talking to strangers is a very normal part of life in many places in the US. 10:1 says you live on the coast.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:01 PM
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That's because racism against POC is usually assumed rather than verifiable. I think I got pulled over for being black, but I can't prove it. I think I didn't get the job because I'm black, but I can't prove it. That leads to wild paranoia about racism that's rarely justified. It certainly exists, a great example is sentencing disparities between the races, but it's much rarer than most people believe. (Sentencing disparity between men and women is even more significant than between races, thoug…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 02:12 PM
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You are incorrect. "Gender ratios by U.S. state In the United States, the resident population was estimated to be around 330 million in 2020. The gender distribution of the nation has remained steady for several years, with women accounting for approximately 51.1 percent of the population since 2013."
/r/MensRights01/08/22 02:00 PM
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The 1st and 2nd amendments alone separate us from the rest of the world. I have. Fortunately, they, too, woke up. Best of luck, you clearly need it.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:20 AM
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I'm saying literally everyone in the US today benefits from that, yes, because we get all the benefits with few of the consequences. Black, white, and everybody else besides. I'm determining it by extensive experience traveling abroad. We are so wildly ahead of other places it's nuts. It's only crackpots quoting the 'Freedom' Index that think otherwise. Might as well quote a comic book for all the relevance it has to true freedom. The only Kool-aid drinker here is you, my man. Break free.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:41 AM
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The US was built on the backs of slaves kept almost exclusively by racists. We exist here today because of them, and the US is now the best place to live on the planet. You're here, so you're benefitting from that past racism.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:31 AM
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You benefit from racism in the past, too. Doesn't change a damn thing. The only difference is I grew up and decided not to be a racist hypocrite anymore and you didn't.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:27 AM
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I decline. I'll just contact to repay society by calling out blatant racism like you two are spouting.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 01:09 AM
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support merit in it's current or previous form, is to also support racism. Exactly backwards. To NOT support it is racism. Truth is, there'll always be racism, so you'll always need protections, a blackbox to protect minorities from the majority, regardless of race. What laws protect men (minority) from women (majority)? And you do realize your white friends are totally in support of white affirmative action when "merit" based policies lead to them losing out, right? https://www.revistaensinosup…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:35 AM
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You nailed it.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:32 AM
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It's difficult to parse whatever bastardized version of English you just attempted, but if I understood correctly, you think I'm a hypocrite. Back then, I absolutely was. Two years ago, I was eligible for 25k as a COVID related freebie that was only open to minorities and women. No white men allowed. I didn't take it, because my standards matter to me. So, no, you've got it wrong and are advocating racism.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:32 AM
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I didn't turn them down, lol. Back then I was a staunch Democrat and had totally bought into the narrative. I got two scholarships and a grant that my white best friend didn't even though he had better grades and test scores. Pretty damn big handout.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:21 AM
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Let's see a white man try to walk SW Chicago at 1am. See what happens. Let's see them apply to teach kindergarteners. Let's see them apply to a Harvard with just 'good' grades. Let's see them attempt to create openly 'them only' spaces like exist for others. Let's see them just try to participate in a pick up basketball game in the city lol. Racism is everywhere and everyone is affected.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:04 AM
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Yes, they absolutely are, for multiple reasons. I'm not 3/5ths a person, I can compete against others on my own merits without needing a handout.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:55 PM
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Yeah? So name a movie with the inverse scenario.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:23 PM
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Ex girlfriend.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 10:32 PM
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lol. Best of luck.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:21 PM
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Oh, you've never heard complaints about the wage gap? Cool cave you live in!
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:13 PM
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Right, I understand, but we should encourage mental toughness and not pretend that easy things are difficult. That kind of behavior is why there's an outcry that part time dog walkers don't make the same wage an EMT does.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 04:28 PM
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As a full time worker and a full time Dad who had to get through lockdowns and school closures, I can tell you that taking care of home and kids is F**KING HARD. I did it for almost two years and couldn't disagree more. Taking care of the home and kids was and remains the easiest 'job' I've ever had. F**king easy.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:19 PM
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It's selfish in the same way that wanting quality communication with your spouse is selfish.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 04:58 PM
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You'll be fine... in 20 years. 20 years from now when you have an established career, savings, a home, and stability, average women who ran through miles of... will be happy to jump into your life and take advantage of all the great things you've built.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 05:04 PM
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She's marrying average men! (Once she gets desperate towards the very end or even after her reproductive years are over.) So... not really helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:56 PM
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It's true in some cases, but certainly not all. My best friend is a great example. Dude is funny, in great shape, and has an okay job, but he's facially ugly (he'd say a 1, I'd say a 3) and has red hair. He's a GOOD PERSON, but getting a date is tough. He mostly works alone or sometimes with other men, but no women. He has a ton of typical male interests, but few with many unattached females. I've watched him swipe Tinder hundreds of times, but never get matched. You make it seem black and white…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 04:53 PM
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Someone replied and said 'there won't be any protests because no one thinks this is a bad thing. You'repunching air.' That person wisely deleted their nonsense. Nonetheless, here was my reply: You have a very short memory: https://thefulcrum.ca/news/mens-rights-event-disrupted-by-protest/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/xd4nd7/we-went-to-a-mens-rights-lecture-in-toronto https://www.feministcurrent.com/2012/12/14/the-mens-rights-movement-cafe-the-university-of-toronto/ https://www.thestudentroom.…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 02:39 PM
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No, it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 05:10 PM
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I'm not sure that I can think it through thoroughly enough in real time to make this comment useful, but I believe the general thought is valid. There needs to be a level of objectivity added to the system. It's known that men will swipe right on effectively everyone because they are already at an extreme disadvantage within the OLD ecosystem. This results in women being able to by hyper-selective and still getting matches even though, if it were an in person situation, that option wouldn't be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:29 PM
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It is pretty crazy. They also radically underestimate the number of men who don't conform at all to their expectations. For example, I've always been pro-life, ever since I was a kid. No point in arguing about it, that's not the point of my comment. According to women like this, I'm inherently a hypocrite, when in reality, it was my beliefs about abortion being wrong that drove me to make sure I only had sex with one woman and only when I was ready to have children with her. Then, when we didn't…
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 04:12 PM
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It should be as equal as possible, absolutely. This is especially true the closer that number is to 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:43 PM
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My road towards advocating for men probably got it's extremely small first step in 9th grade. I was taking AP Psych, and one of the assignments was an IQ test. It wasn't scored, it was part of a larger discussion. The test was basic and not a 'real' IQ test, but it asked your age, gender, and then about 40 questions before spitting out a result. Anyway, the girl that sat beside me was quite bright, and she ended up scoring the exact same that I did. We got to chatting, and we wondered what the h…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 01:35 PM
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It's exactly what they say about racism. 'Only whites can be racist because of THA POWAAAA!' It's a way to make it okay for them to be racists. It's stupid then and it's stupid with this.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 01:14 PM
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The fact you’re allowed to have a differing opinion here without being banned says a lot. Go to r/feminism and try that.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 03:12 AM
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I believe you believe that. You’re in a cult, you just haven’t realized it yet.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 02:56 AM
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This is a train wreck. The worst part is that she believes everything she just typed. Probably believes antifa is anti-fascism, too.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 02:38 AM
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That seems imminently reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:16 AM
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Tf?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 11:12 PM
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He is not an amazing person, or therapist. Find a new one. Don't continue getting advice from someone who cannot even acknowledge reality.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:21 PM
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Ahh, yes, I agree with that.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 10:07 PM
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Yep, that's right. Good enough for my wife, which really is all that matters. Got lucky being tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:33 PM
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History has shown us that the draconian rules that people put in place will just backfire once the (D) turns into (R). Huh? Draconian rules are bad immediately. They don't get worse when a different team uses them?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:07 PM
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This failed spectacularly. I'm not attractive. Objectively. My wife is quite attractive. She scored lower than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:03 PM
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lol
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:21 PM
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Gross. Makes me sick to my stomach.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:06 PM
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That's wildly higher than any study I've ever read, and I have read many. Without knowing exactly where that number comes from, I give it 0 consideration. True. I care about human beings. You care about women who want to kill human beings.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:57 PM
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Technically true, practically ridiculous. The odds of becoming pregnant due to rape are extremely low; add in BC and it's effectively impossible. Regardless, it's pointless to argue with you because you don't care anyway! You want abortion to be legal for whatever reason, so you're not making an argument with any intellectual integrity.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:53 PM
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Nope, because if a guy harms, you don't get to kill an innocent 3rd party in retaliation. It sucks, but the kid is still innocent. No, I'm saying don't have sex. Same advice I give to men who don't want kids, and exactly the reason my wife is the only person I've ever had sex with. It's called, responsibility.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:43 PM
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Don't force that person into the concentration camp called your uterus, then. I think we're done, yeah?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:38 PM
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Nazi shit.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:36 PM
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I fundamentally disagree. It's genetically a unique human being and it's equally dependent on another human being for all its needs. That same statement applies to a 6 month old. You can claim it's not a human being, and show yourself to be scientifically illiterate, or you can claim it's not a person and line up alongside the worst leaders in human history. Either way, I'm not joining.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:32 PM
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So when you take a prescription drug with rare side effects and get one of those rare side effects, then you get to kill someone to make them go away? That's your argument in a nutshell. Sex is agreement, you won't change my mind. (Rape excepted, but addressed previously.)
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:24 PM
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Fair enough. I respect that intellectual consistency, take my upvote. Doesn't change my argument.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:17 PM
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Sex is agreement. You agree with that, you just don't realize it. If a man has sex with you, you accidentally get pregnant and choose to keep the child even though he doesn't want anything to do with it, you still think he should pay child support, right? Sex is agreement.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:15 PM
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Not once they have signed the paperwork and agreed to donate them, no.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:12 PM
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No. I don't answer metaphorical questions unless the metaphor is rational. Yours isn't. Any prophylactic has some risk of pregnancy. That doesn't justify murdering a child. Don't want a kid? Don't have sex. And, before you jump, pregnancy by rape is also crazy rare, so don't bother offering another minority argument. And no, I don't support rape exceptions. The consequences of a heinous crime suck, but you don't get to murder your rapists kid just because of what her dad did to you. I fully supp…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:07 PM
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Any bets on how significant the protests will be?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:03 PM
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It is what you asked, you just don't realize it. The government isn't forcing you to get pregnant. They are (sometimes) forcing you to stay pregnant. Logic needs to be a higher priority in your life.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:01 PM
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Once I've donated them to my son, I don't believe I should be able to kill him and take them back, no. Also: string replies are stupid. Please combine your thoughts.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:58 PM
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I believe that emergency abortions in specific situations where the mother will inevitably die if she continues the pregnancy should be allowed, yes. It's only logical because without mom, the child dies anyway. Better one death than two. That is the ONLY abortion scenario I support.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:57 PM
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As I thought, you're arguing a minority to justify atrocity. My right to life is not greater than my son's. Period. As I said, Nazi shit. Go march with a hood.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:54 PM
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Life saving abortions are insanely rare. However, are you saying that you're okay with outlawing abortions except in those instances or are you simply arguing a tiny minority to justify millions of dead babies?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:44 PM
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The irony is thicc
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:41 PM
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Deciding which human beings get to count as people and which ones don't is Nazi shit.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:37 PM
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You're right. If you kidnap a child, chain them up in your basement and make them totally dependent on you, you should then be able to legally kill them without ramifications. I mean, how dare they deny you your rights!
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:34 PM
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Be allowed to take out life insurance on it, and collect if she has a miscarriage? (25% of pregnancies are miscarried in the first 3 months) Sure, if a company will issue them such. Should men be required to pay child support as soon as pregnancy starts? I'm absolutely okay with this! A better solution would be to require back support once fatherhood is proven however, as otherwise it could (and would) be abused. If low income, have equal access to food stamps and welfare cost for the baby (equi…
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:23 PM
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Exactly! Thanks for supporting my point that rights shouldn't be denied to human beings just because you don't think they count as people.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:19 PM
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Couldn't care less, they made the correct decision. The Constitution doesn't address abortion at all. It's clearly a state's issue.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:02 AM
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Extremely rare situation. Extremely. And as the most adamantly pro-life person I've ever met, I don't know ANYONE who opposes life-saving, extreme emergency, abortions. They just are so vanishingly rare that policy shouldn't be based on them.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:00 AM
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You have to be a Christian to be oppose to killing kids? Oof, ice cold.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:19 AM
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They don't help the murdered kids. It's not a 'right' to murder an innocent human being because you are inconvenienced by them.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:18 AM
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>I've been in several subs that you're probably speaking about and I haven't seen what you are talking about. Well of course you haven't, you're a woman. Why would you except to see female on male abuse/harassment via DM as a woman? If you would like direct links, I can provide them via DM, but really, they aren't difficult to find. >Many women online, including reddit will get rape threats just because they post something someone objects to. Many people get threatened online, men and women alik…
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 07:04 PM
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I didn't assume or imply any such thing. I simply asked. If you haven't done that in person, then there's nothing to worry about. My initial comment remains my position. He probably won't respond well to being 'taught' anything. I'd recommend an approach that emphasizes your merit.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:08 PM
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Interesting. I haven't attacked you at all and have consistently given you 'outs,' but you perceive that as being attacked. Is it possible that you are on the lookout for attacks and perceive them where they do not exist? Anyone who calls an adult a 'kid' comes off as arrogant. You've consistently belittled this man, so yes, that does tend to give the impression that you think pretty highly of yourself. But, as I said in a previous reply, you may just be doing that online here to vent, which is …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:52 PM
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I'm trying to help, not justify. I don't know either one of you, nor do I have any idea of the truth of the situation. I'm simply giving feedback to the one involved party that's here. If he was here, I'd also say that spreading rumors is absolutely wrong, for example. I agree with you! You do deserve respect, so does he. You'll make progress if at least one of you acts that way. If not, well...
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:04 PM
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It's human nature. I'll bet you think you're better at your job than some of your supervisors. Additionally, there's some arrogance in your tone as well, perhaps some of that eeks out accidentally at work? Calling an adult a 'kid' is extremely disrespectful. Maybe you're just doing it here to vent, which is fine, but if you're ever letting that out in the workplace, it would be pretty easy to see why he dislikes you. As you said, what matters is your performance!
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:56 PM
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You may be able to talk to him productively, but you certainly won't be 'heard' if you try to 'educate' him. He already thinks he's better than you are. He does not (and should not) care about your situation, schedule, or your finances. To him, that are all free passes that he's not being allowed, so why should you be allowed them? That's his one valid argument, and if you try to dismiss it, he'll ignore you entirely. What you should do if you talk is explain that you received the promotion base…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:43 PM
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She's got the spirit, now just needs to work out some of the details! In reality, she's going to..., well, something else.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:07 PM
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This has been happening gradually for many years in action movies. It's been that way in comedies for decades.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:04 PM
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Really? The first thing many women do when they get into a relationship is troll the person's social media and have their girlfriends do the same. Then, when the relationship is over, it's well known that many will use an alt to continue to troll around. That's TYPICAL! A smaller subset going on to use that information nefariously is difficult for you to believe? That's not exactly the topic, but it extremely similar. That said, there are also groups on reddit that cater mostly to men's... issue…
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 02:01 PM
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And some couples basically never communicate and live effectively as nearly silent roommates. The insanely rare exception does not provide quality evidence of the countrary.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 01:56 PM
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>I mean this sub typically has no problem assigning negative trends strictly to women and claiming that only women participate in certain behaviors whether it's true or not, so for the sake of continuity what's wrong with considering the same possibility for men and certain behaviors? The actions of others are irrelevant to what is right. >If the sun can discuss why some issues revolve around mostly women contributing, why can't people talk about issues where mostly men may contribute? They can.…
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 01:51 PM
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Fair. I don't think I read the OP carefully enough.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:46 AM
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It worked agreed, but it's in no way a 'men are good,' story. If anything, it highlights how incredibly throwaway men are unless they are rich/successful.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:36 AM
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I'll check them out. Don't agree with Joker at all. Haven't seen the rest.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:22 AM
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Based on what I said, yes, that's probably the best. Not exactly real men, but yeah. However, what I actually meant was: A movie featuring real human beings created for adults.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:01 AM
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Name them.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:43 AM
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Disagree.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:30 AM
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Damn, 16. My wife was trippin.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:45 AM
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I've literally seen this happen twice. Once watched a woman hit a guy in the head with a brick. He turned and slapped her. A crowd rushes in to attack. Guy ended up in really bad shape.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:28 AM
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Wait. You think... you think only men who lurk and then use that information for their own negative reasons? You think that's a gendered thing? I'll remember that the next time I want a good chuckle.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:23 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s essential, just that some wants need to be met and respected to have a healthy relationship. It's as essential as communication is.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:20 AM
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Anjelah Johnson is funny. Sarah Silverman is too, sometimes. I have a strict policy of watching ONLY funny comedians.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:19 AM
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You'll disagree with me right up until the day you really, really, agree with me.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:24 PM
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Body positivity is only for women. Fat men are good for one thing only: jokes. If they are lucky, they'll be delivering them.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:23 PM
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I should have added: or when you'll have access to the security video afterwards.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:11 PM
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Married for nearly two decades. It's not the only rule, but it's the larger idea: only interact publicly / in groups.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:03 PM
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Doesn't exist in the last decade.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 10:48 PM
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I just follow the 'Mike Pence' rules.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 10:21 PM
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She thinks he's ugly.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 07:01 PM
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Also re: equating emotional labor to hard paid work... Who the fuck says that??? Lol that only really applies to professionals in the mental health field. I just realized now that that's where this whole thing is at. What the fuck this is seriously the first time I'm hearing that Are you kidding, or just never paid attention? The idea is everywhere! https://hbr.org/2010/09/why-is-it-that-we https://weld.la.psu.edu/what-is-emotional-labor/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindsaykohler/2021/09/30/its…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:58 PM
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Tl dr of everything, I think you have a warped view of feminism and what things are like for women. No, I don't. 1 in 3 women in the US have been sexually abused in their lifetime. 1 in 4 men in the US have been sexually abused in their lifetime. BS. Ever examined that data? It's wildly inaccurate. To believe it requires delusion. 1 in 4 women in the US have experienced severe partner abuse. 1 in 7 men in the US have experienced severe partner abuse. Severe? Is that relevant? Oh wait! It is, bec…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:55 PM
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You dislike the term "emotional labor" because it's absolutely nothing compared to what you've been doing. No. I dislike the term because people tend to equate it to real, actual, physical, for pay, labor. It's used as a way to equalize it with paid work. Because you HAD to be strong. You had to survive. If you were weak for even a moment, you wouldn't have gotten to where you are now. I think all people can be strong and should be. I don't support giving in to weakness and see no benefit to any…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:17 PM
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I love free speech, but I like to compartmentalize discussions that so the focus of each area stays strong. This dilutes the message of the sub.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:58 PM
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Not related to this sub. Should be removed.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:16 PM
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While what they experience may be nothing compared to what you went through, negative experiences still count as suffering. It may be little and may not amount to much, but it still does count. No, it doesn't. No one goes through life without those kinds of minor hardships. Never have, never will. Elevating normal life to 'suffering' is nihilistic nonsense. I think you misunderstand what people mean by "emotional labor". The "emotional labor" we bring up is when you have a partner or family memb…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:40 PM
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Would you say then, that you never had to do emotional labor with her? You never felt drained with her? That's life. That's marriage. It's not a separate thing deserving of special praise or credit. It's certainly not labor. How do you know your children know nothing of suffering? Are you there 24/7? Are you sure they don't hear you? Cause let me tell you, I know a lot of people who hear what happens to their parents and cry without them knowing. Because I know what real suffering looks like. Be…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:19 PM
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No gaslighting, no rage, still no such thing as emotional labor. As for my marriage, I was the one that suffered physical abuse from her. We worked through it, and we are absolutely thrilled that we did. We have a fantastic, emotionally open, physically expressive marriage. No marriage is perfect, but mine's a 8.5/10. Our children are happy, very bright, and know almost nothing of suffering. Even during our worst moments, we sheltered them from our trauma. They live blessed lives. Emotional labo…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:06 PM
3

Triggered by reality? I sincerely hope you work out your issues. Seek therapy from a qualified and experienced professional.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:40 PM
2

We do agree. Feminists, if given the chance, would vote to abolish SS as it currently stands, even though such a vote would only benefit men. They'd do that because it would eliminate the chance that SS would be required of them. So, yes, we agree.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:59 AM
1

Yes, I agree with you. You seem desperate to argue when we agree.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:31 AM
3

Correct. That doesn't contradict what I said.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:59 AM
1

They'd support removing selective service entirely, for example.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:26 AM
4

They will also oppose anything that might help men. If it helps only men, yes, that is correct.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:16 AM
6

On that topic, Israel is about as close to equality as it gets.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 11:13 PM
2

It's absolutely, unequivocally, true. Don't spread propaganda.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:53 PM
3

No evidence exists to support that opinion. Either that, or there are no true feminists.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:52 PM
9

emotional labor is treated even remotely serious. Don't use their terms. Don't validate nonsense. 'Emotional labor' is not real.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:32 PM
6

I still don't quite see why they would bother at all in the first place. Because they (rightfully) hate male rapists.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:07 PM
11

Feminism is transparent. They will support anything that benefits women and oppose anything that may harm any woman, no matter how reprehensible that individual woman may be. Examples: Selective service. Equality would be require them to sign up. Their suggestion? No one should have to sign up at all! Rape: Equality would make it so that men and women can both be charged and with equal penalty. Their suggestion? We'll expand it so we can also charge gay rapists (but still not women.)
/r/MensRights17/07/22 09:06 PM
6

How does advocating for male victims of rape advance the feminist cause? They aren't advocating for male victims of rape. They are simply attempting to increase the penalties against male rapists. Very significant difference. Do you see it?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:58 PM
11

Yep. And women have NO problem harassing attractive men. No experience with that myself, I'm ugly, but I have close friends who do. Go to a bar and women will come up, touch, without hesitation. Sexual assault is a joke to them.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:31 PM
2

Guys (largely) love strategy games. Hit up a local game shop. You may end up being very surprised. Guys with passions about their hobbies LOVE to teach. If you let them teach you, you'll have a friend for life.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:13 AM
1

Sports, cars, sure, but guys like tons of stuff. Weird games, 3D printing, war reenactment, drones, whatever. Tons of genres. Find one you legitimately find interesting. Male friends WILL follow.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 12:09 AM
6

I'm sorry you've experienced that. Don't underestimate men, though. Find an activity men love to do and get involved. Men LOVE women who also love their hobby.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:56 PM
7

Not here.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:49 PM
11

Which jobs does it make sense to be 'men only?' Could you show some examples of job listings that say that?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:45 PM
3

Of the men I've ever been close enough to talk about it with, I've never known a single one who hasn't been hit by a female partner, excepting only one gay guy.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:42 PM
46

Ahh, so treated badly by individuals rather than systems. I'd still trade in a heartbeat. Most of that stuff can be cured with thicker skin. Stalking, obviously not, but a quick police report and you'll be fine. To be clear; I oppose everything you just said. None of that should happen to anyone. I just view it as virtually unchangeable. Edits for additional thoughts: No I mean being stalked, Men get stalked, too. When I attempted to remote a stalker in grad school, the female police officer ask…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:09 PM
30

Women are being treated badly? You mean like all the dedicated scholarships, quotas, grants, private spaces, and financial incentives that they have? Or do you mean all the benefits they have within the court system? Or within the family court system? Do you mean the benefits of the doubt they get within the public sphere? How about within the semi-public sphere when it comes to reports of DV? Could you elaborate, because I’d LOVE to trade benefits!
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:53 PM
3

Listen to each other, eh? Which side allows contrary views and which doesn’t? What does that tell you?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:41 PM
1

Yeah? Could you isolate some specific things those people you know have actually done in those areas? Even, you know, like one thing?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:35 PM
7

Are you kidding? Can't read? Stupid? What? "Dr Yeo’s lawyers had managed to get the complainant to confess several times that she had lied while testifying in court."
/r/MensRights13/07/22 02:21 AM
1

Dump her. She's cancer and will ruin your life, one way or another.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:47 PM
1

White feathers?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 09:44 PM
0

Back to semantics. Egalitarianism is the way.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 09:36 PM
1

Say it, but they actually fight against it. That's my whole point. That's why you're allowed to say it here but would get banned there.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 01:06 PM
12

The #1 thing you can do is say all those things LOUDLY and REPEATEDLY to all your feminist friends. Granted, you won't be able to do it on reddit feminist forums because you'll get banned immediately, but in real life you should speak up for men. Additionally, you need to spend time unlearning some of misinformation you probably believe. A deep dive into relevant topics will do wonders. To answer your other question: toxic masculinity isn't real, nor is toxic femininity. Neither of the two gende…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 02:28 AM
2

Don't kill your child.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 02:16 AM
1

MRA's would not disagree that men and women should be equal in the eyes of the law and society. That's their/our goal. Feminists, meanwhile, would disagree and would ban you from their subs for saying it, not to mention the downvotes. The difference between an MRA and an incel is a giant chasm. The difference between your average feminist and these lunatics is one more bad Tinder hookup. But, again, you know this.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 02:07 AM
2

That's like saying, 'Go visit r/whitesupremacyrocks just to learn. Don't reply, just use it to grow.' Umm, fuck no. I'm not interested in 'learning' hate rhetoric.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:46 PM
-1

Go post something about men being equal on a feminist sub. See what happens. You massively underestimate the violently anti-male feminist population.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:29 PM
2

You're right and wrong. Most women aren't like this, true. But the number that are is MUCH greater than 00.01%
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:27 PM
5

Go try it. I dare you. Go to ANY feminist sub on reddit and say something supporting equal rights for men. Heck, just say, 'men deserve equal rights,' and see what happens. You won't do it. Why? Because you know, deep down, that he's right.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:50 PM
12

You're right, it's worse. Slavery at least doesn't kill you 100% of the time.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:24 AM
10

Nope.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:23 AM
1

As suspected, you cannot answer.
/r/MensRights24/02/22 05:36 PM
0

Yes, it is. The draft, today, is a hypothetical, not a reality. It's a boogeyman.
/r/MensRights23/02/22 04:02 PM
0

You're looking at this from a 100' perspective, I'm approaching it from 30,000'. On this single issue, yes, the knife attack is happening. Viewed as a whole, the knife attack doesn't matter.
/r/MensRights23/02/22 03:38 PM
0

So if one party is coming at you with a knife and the other a nuclear warhead, the knife isn't 'better?' Give me a break.
/r/MensRights23/02/22 03:26 PM
2

Still better than the other side. That said... The two party system SUCKS.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 10:22 PM
6

What female issues need to be addressed?
/r/MensRights18/02/22 10:42 PM
3

Responsibility for having my genitals mutilated at birth? Huh?
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:28 PM
1

'Objective party' lol. That's hysterical. My wife and I tried three counselors together, and objectivity was absent from all of them. She and I worked through things on our own and we're now in an awesome place, she's my best friend and lover again, but marriage counseling almost destroyed us.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:26 PM
1

I don't understand why you are being downvoted, everything you said is accurate.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 05:22 PM
1

None of the above? Let capitalism drive innovation.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 08:30 PM
4

lol. Perfect irony. Thank you.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 09:32 PM
2

Because it's a show reference.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 09:28 PM
4

Asthma. And you obviously don't get the reference.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 09:24 PM
4

I'm an MD. He's correct.
/r/MensRights17/01/22 07:09 PM
1

No. Single was miserable. Relationship is way better for me.
/r/MensRights29/12/21 07:20 PM
7

It's people like you (the OP) who can make the greatest inroads. Start working with your fellow feminist women to dismantle the rampant misandry present within the movement. Stand up publicly and loudly for men in areas where there are significant grievances, such as family court, criminal court, college admissions, college scholarships, hiring practices, etc. Think of it like a marriage where one partner is abusive. That relationship can only be healed by radical change by the abuser. The abuse…
/r/MensRights16/12/21 04:11 PM
4

Boko Haram jumps to mind.
/r/MensRights15/12/21 11:16 PM
1

Huh? My wife would strongly disagree. Was there supposed to be a link or something?
/r/MensRights15/12/21 10:22 PM
7

Imagine being a dad and truly wanting to raise your child only for mom to decide to kill him instead.
/r/MensRights14/12/21 07:32 PM
1

False attribution. Men are far more likely to dive 100% into a subject and master it completely. Thus, they are more likely to lead their fields. That's irrelevant to natural ability. But if you're not saying that, then you can isolate some things. What things are women better at?
/r/MensRights14/12/21 02:23 AM
5

BS. I'm all those, too, and what you just said is weak-willed millennial BS. Grow a spine.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 08:44 PM
0

Congratulations. I disagree with literally nothing you just said except the 7th sentence, which is factually incorrect. You're attacking a strawman. For the sake of your patients, I hope you were better at surgery than you are at reading.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 03:46 PM
3

False attribution. Just because men dominate surgery doesn't mean it is because they dominate fine motor skills. They are also more willing to give up their lives for a decade plus in school, more willing to sacrifice family time, etc.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 03:31 PM
2

Yep, he does. It's just genetics.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:25 PM
3

Women, as a whole, have better fine motor skills than men as a whole. That's my argument (and also a fact.)
/r/MensRights13/12/21 02:24 PM
5

Are we measuring individuals now? Because you used 'men' and 'women' collectively. If you truly believe men are better at absolutely everything, you're a fool.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 04:48 AM
8

Quite a variety of things. Detail oriented work, especially involving color accuracy, is an area where women have a genetic advantage. Tasks requiring very fine motor skills also tend to benefit women. Just a couple easy ones.
/r/MensRights13/12/21 04:24 AM
-3

1) You are not a woman. You never have been, and you never will be. 2) Your value doesn't cone from your gender, nor does your confusion invalidate your worth as a human being. 3) If you advocate for men's rights to be equal, you're a MRA. If you don't, you aren't. What people have to say about your situation is not connected.
/r/MensRights12/12/21 10:27 PM
2

Yes, I reject the idea that acknowledging reality is harmful. As for my ass, my wife loves it, so I don't care what you think about it.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 06:09 PM
2

I reject the idea that acknowledging reality is ever harmful.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 05:38 PM
4

Found the troll super tanker!
/r/MensRights11/12/21 05:35 PM
3

Nope. My sexual attraction is based on her looks. Anyone who says looks are irrelevant to sexual attraction is either lying or literally blind.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 05:30 PM
1

Wrong-o. She's my first, my only, my forever. The mother of my children and my best friend. Those are completely separate from her physical self.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 05:23 PM
5

180lbs is overweight or obese for the average height person. 180lbs for most women (average height 5'4" means a 180lb BMI over 30) is obese. 180lbs for most men (average height 5'9" means a 180lb BMI over 26) is overweight. The average woman should be ~115-140lbs.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 09:24 AM
10

Completely true.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 09:16 AM
6

Ah, wise one, why is it then?
/r/MensRights11/12/21 09:16 AM
8

I'm not the OP, but I don't indulge lies. I'll love her no matter what, but I will not be attracted to her no matter what. The truth is that I want an attractive partner. If her choices make her unattractive, I wouldn't lie.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 09:14 AM
1

Conservatism has plenty of policy that actively harms men. The left has even more. Denying either fact is delusional.
/r/MensRights11/12/21 09:12 AM
5

The lines were delivered to 15 women. It was supposed to be 16, but the ugly member screwed up. 8 of the 15 women who heard the lines delivered decided that they were not offensive. Ergo, the majority of women in the group disagree with you. A comment cannot be objectively offensive. Offense is subjective.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:58 AM
4

You don't even realize that an offensive come-on cannot be predicted before being said. The mental gymnastics you participate in are exhausting.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:51 AM
6

If it wasn't, I'd be out. Abortion is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:43 AM
7

The only one twisting here is you. Cognitive dissonance will do that.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:28 AM
7

I explained very clearly, you simply don't like it. Desire is what separates BDSM from assault. Desire is what separates a welcome sexual come-on from an unwanted come-on (sexual harassment.) You are either unwilling to read, unable to, or extremely poor at logical reasoning. I have my suspicions as to which is most likely.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:20 AM
9

Big oof. You clearly can't follow even your own logic, much less actual logic.
/r/MensRights05/12/21 12:06 AM
7

Well, it is or it isn't. You're saying it's not comparable because there's consent beforehand. So, by that reasoning, any potentially offensive come on (which is literally all of them, if a person is ugly enough) becomes okay with consent. Because beauty is subjective, that means the only surefire way to hit on someone without risking offense is with pre-consent. That's YOUR argument.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:42 PM
9

Ah, so you suggest we require pre-consent to hit on someone? How does that work exactly? Everyone has to wait for someone else to say 'please hit on me,' before they do?
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:34 PM
9

I'd argue being locked in handcuffs and smacked is assault, but the BDSM crowd would disagree. Sexual harassment is no different. It's harassment unless the person likes it.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:16 PM
10

That sexual harassment cannot always be predicted prior to it occurring. The hot guy didn't sexually harassment the girls, but the ugly guy did. Ergo, it's subjective, and that's a problem.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:07 PM
13

No, that is not at all what I said.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 11:04 PM
11

So you say, now, and so did they before a 9.5 delivered the line to them.
/r/MensRights04/12/21 10:59 PM
9

"You know, if I were you, I’d have sex with me." and "If I flipped a coin, what do you think my chances are of getting head?" are the only two I remember. All of them were blatantly sexual, and ALL of the women who heard any of them from the ugly guy said they were sexual harassment afterwards. Meanwhile, the gals had no problem with hearing them from our hot guy. (And I specifically remember the second one because in one case, our guy actually did get head. He also went on months later to have …
/r/MensRights04/12/21 10:44 PM
20

Yes, because most of the things that 'gross you out' are subjective and unknowable. In undergrad almost 20 years ago, we had to create and execute a study for a sociology class. We created a survey asking women which pickup lines were offensive and which weren't. Later, we had our most attractive friend give some of them some of those exact lines in another setting two weeks later. The rest were approached with the lines by our least attractive member. Back in class we asked them about it. You'l…
/r/MensRights04/12/21 09:34 PM
1

10:1 says you hold at least a few beliefs I'd call radical.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:29 PM
3

I feel like that probably was already done.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:15 PM
6

No, you are privileged because you can't even relate to someone who might think that way. Naive.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:47 PM
4

When did I say that it was? Hint: I didn't. Your lack of reading skills are making this conversation much more difficult than it would be otherwise.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:43 PM
7

I already understand that, which is why I would never act that way under any circumstances. However, because I'm a man, I also have perspective about what it feels like to be viewed as unworthy of even a simple compliment. A man dying of thirst will drink from any stagnant puddle. A man with no perspective will offer that same water to others. Best of luck understanding what terminal dehydration feels like.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:34 PM
5

You clearly have no perspective on the topic whatsoever, nor, apparently, any desire to acquire any. I remain unsurprised.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:23 PM
4

Yes, so long as there was no unwanted physical contact. You clearly have NO idea, absolutely NO idea, how compliment starved men and boys are. You should do some research on the topic. Start by asking the men in your life when the last time they got a personal (non work/task related) compliment from a stranger was. If they can remember one at all, that is.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:14 PM
7

I didn't read the original, only your paraphrase, so I have no idea what supposedly occurred. However, based on the ending (a business card and no physical contact,) I suspect that most men would be absolutely thrilled to be on the receiving end of such behavior. However, you can't even come close to understanding that because of your privilege.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 10:06 PM
5

In oh so many ways. In the above scenario, for example, you're upset because a man complimented a woman, even if he did so in a heavy handed manner. Meanwhile, most men haven't received a compliment from a non-family member in their entire adult lives. The privilege of being so effusively complimented that you can possibly be offended by one is an incredibly foreign concept to virtually all men.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:59 PM
4

That's because, as a woman, you are privileged. Is that no to my challenge? I'm not surprised.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:48 PM
5

Take a challenge; go oppose three attacks on men by feminists in the next week. Sound doable?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 09:29 PM
4

Nope, you don't have to do anything. I'm simply saying that if such things bother you, why wouldn't you?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:59 PM
6

Yes, a direct threat is unacceptable. Do you voice that same opinion in 2Xs? Scanning your post history, I see no evidence that you do. Women abuse and insult men constantly all over Reddit but you're saying nothing and have no 'bad perception' of feminist subs? If it weren't for double standards, feminists wouldn't have any at all.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:51 PM
3

Define unacceptable. I think it's a stupid thing to say, and when people say it to me it doesn't make me feel good. But unless it's a direct threat, it shouldn't be banned.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:39 PM
4

I'd rather be told that online by strangers (and I have been, many times) than be banned.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:28 PM
6

If someone called the sky green, I'd call them a fool too. But hey, let's try an experiment. Go back to 2X and disagree about a topic in a controversial manner. See what happens next, compared with what happens here. Hint: you won't be allowed to disagree for very long there before they silence you. Here, you are allowed to engage. Quaint, huh?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:24 PM
5

Then you are a fool. I'm a radical egalitarian.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:18 PM
4

Me?!
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:14 PM
13

True, but that's not violence.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:10 PM
4

Correct, because if it happened in reverse, those people would have said something. It would have mattered enough if it were women. We want true equality. Don't you?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:07 PM
6

A President, VP, Senator, or Representative. Or a Governor. You know, the sane people who would screech if the reverse happened.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 08:00 PM
3

Yes, because that's not what I'm talking about. Can you read?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 07:47 PM
5

That's not what I said. I want relevant call outs. Read more carefully.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 07:35 PM
7

Hahahaha! You think getting called out by anyone at all is what we're talking about. It's not. We're talking about getting called out by relevant feminist voices. Imagine a scenario where 'important' people voiced the idea that 'Kill All Women' was a goal and then thousands and thousands of men said it too. What kind of outrage would occur? Think it would get at least a tweet from Kamala Harris or AOC? I'm quite confident it would. We're looking for the equivalent outrage. Hint: it didn't happen…
/r/MensRights30/11/21 07:30 PM
5

No, they aren't called out, they are promoted! Are you kidding?
/r/MensRights30/11/21 07:01 PM
3

No. Words are not violence.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 06:58 PM
1

Yeah, good luck. Have fun. What man who cares about his public image is campaigning to legalize buying sex? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100%, but it's not going to happen that way. Ironically, this is one of the few, possibly the only, battles that feminists should be fighting (and kind of are) and could actually improve society.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 05:21 PM
1

When the supply is women and the demand is men, of course the demand is criminalized. That's no surprise to anyone.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 05:16 PM
1

Minus what happens if you get arrested for it. That's pretty damn expensive in every way, financially, socially, emotionally, etc.
/r/MensRights30/11/21 01:57 PM
1

She's a POS and worthless human being. Hope the procedure goes desperately wrong.
/r/MensRights21/11/21 08:45 PM
15

The laughter of women actually costs many men their lives.
/r/MensRights12/11/21 06:08 PM
-1

None. I'm radically opposed to their ideas but even more radically in support of their right to say them.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 03:11 AM
2

Ok. Your phrasing made me unsure.
/r/MensRights03/11/21 12:19 AM
2

The first three, yes! The third and fourth... not really. The last, fuck no.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 11:21 PM
4

Equality would be a catch up draft of only women.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 11:19 PM
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