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No, there are some women I find sexually appealing. But they are such a small number that is basically doesn't matter. Also, I could never develop romantic feelings for a woman, just sexual lust (and even that not for 99% of women) and wouldn't be interested in a relationship with a woman, so that's why I wouldn't call myself bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:20 PM
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If I watch porn I usually watch gay porn. I'm 99% hetero and like watching men being the center of attention and them pleasuring each other. When it comes to hetero porn I actually prefer audioporn or smut books
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:51 AM
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Your comparison only works if you think it's okay to compare capital with bodily autonomy and access to someone else's person for sexual/romantic satisfaction. A person's body/sexuality/love is not a resource that can be negotiated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:36 AM
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I didn't participate in any Bridgerton discussions as I was never that invested in the show and haven't read the books. But I do remember watching it and finding that scene so vile and I'm even a dark romance reader where I expect stuff like that but not out of the blue umif that make sense. It being a romance story I knew a HEA was coming but I actually wished that he would have left her and not give in to her wish for kids. I found the ending disappointing because I couldn't stand the FMC afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:59 AM
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Idk dude, my dad is of average height and average attractiveness. He was known in his youth as a seducer simply because of his humor and intellect. He went out with his friend on double dates and the friend was taller and better looking, but was more..."simple" and dull. Dad always went home with the pretty girl. Mom told me how dad was charming women with his wit and humor and she was warned by other women that he's someone who didn't let a skirt go by. He never considered himself as handsome/a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:12 AM
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No it just means that women will have different opinions depending on their experiences, personality, age, culture, location, etc. I'm someone who never minded being cold approached by men. It's not a normal occurrence in my country and luckily for me whenever it happened to me it went fine, whether I was interested or not, so I never minded it. Other women will have other experiences that will lead to them absolutely hating it. Then we both will state our opinions in this sub and men will assum…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:26 PM
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But didn't you succeed in the end anyways? You recently posted about your girlfriend gifting you a cute houseplant. So after all you managed to get into a relationship. I hope that at least for your gf you will "defend women" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:10 PM

Do you think this had actually have something to do with you specifically or did you just happen to be in a relationship with her when she was borderline asexual? I'm in a LTR for many years and experienced sexual phases that could last a long time and they had nothing to do with my partner. I could be basically asexual for years and also frequently horny for years and these phases were completely independent from my partner. If we had broken up at any point and if I would have gotten with someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:50 AM
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Yes and no. Timing/luck (plus already available attraction) also play a role. I obviously can't speak for all women, but it depends highly on mood/where I am in my cycle if I am receptive to sexual language early on. And I do think that's true for a lot of women. The same guy could be successful or unsuccessful with such an approach depending on if I am in a low libido flunk, which sometimes can go on for months, or if I have a normal libido that is higher during specific days of the cycle. So s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:27 PM
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That's because radfem subs that are deemed "terf-y" get banned sooner or later when they get discovered and brigaded 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:18 PM

I can only speak for myself but as a 99% straight woman when it comes to spicy romance or visual porn I choose either MF pairing or MM pairing, because well, I'm attracted to men. Lesbian porn or FF novels are boring to me because I'm interested in dick, whether that dick interacts with a vagina or another dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:02 PM
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And "chalant" isn't a word at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:22 PM

What a fucking weird fetish question. I have not, but there's nothing wrong with sleeping with a black guy, no matter if he has a big dick or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:04 AM

Haha no. I did those things, I'm not hypersexual, completely average libido with normal waves throughout the years and aging. Most women who are in the lifestyle have average libidos and are sometimes more sexually active and sometimes not active at all for weeks/months/years. Just because one tries things and participates in lifestyle parties here and there doesn't mean one is hypersexual. That applies to both men and women by the way, most men in the lifestyle are also not hypersexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:58 AM
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Heated Rivalry is based on a romance novel. The biggest % of romance consumers are women. Romance novels by large, whether they are about heterosexual or gay/bi etc. characters are consumed by women. And most women are straight. I don't think that it was specifically made FOR straight women, it was made for people who read romance novels. But as it happens, most romance novel readers are (straight) women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:01 PM
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Although your desire is understandable, the fact is that if the woman doesn't want to be pregnant and you want her to not abort, you are asking her to go through a process that will being her a lot of discomfort, excruciating pain and can have life long negative consequences for her physical and mental health. There are women who had body parts amputated as a direct consequence of pregnancy. So while it's admirable that you would be willing to take on the sole responsibility once the baby is bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:38 AM

In theory it's the same for me. Sexual inexperience in itself I don't care about. But let's be for real, what are the chances that a guy who is attractive, sociable, without major issues is still a virgin by age 30? He either looks like Quasimodo or has other major turn-offs or both. I can't imagine that there are a lot of 30 year virgins running around who look like Connor Storrie for example. Like there's maybe one in a billion chance that a hot guy decided to be a priest and later in life dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:04 AM
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No, that simply means that people are not glued to their phones? I'm not on bumble but a dating website that's more specific for my country. I'm on there maybe a couple of times a week, sometimes only once a week, sometimes even less. If someone wrote to me that I find interesting I will write back but the whole thing really is not a priority in my life at all. If someone catches my eye and we start talking and it looks to be promising then I would make more of an effort to log in, but not prior…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:49 AM
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Who would want to have sex with someone who thinks like that? Very icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:02 PM
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That's also a thinking I don't get. Why do men think that everything revolves around them? The same man could have a different outcome simply depending on the time of my cycle when I first go out with him. My decision to have sex or not is based on my mood and physical and mental condition, not some man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:09 PM
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This whole framing of what a woman is "willing to give" is kind of icky to be honest. I'm a woman not opposed to casual sex. Why is it framed as something that I'm giving instead of hopefully mutual pleasure two people experience with each other? Why this kind of framing? Can't two people simply enjoy sexual pleasure with each other without one looking down at the other or framing it as something that one gives and the other earns? This whole worldview is just so strange to me. If a man thinks h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:13 AM
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Depends on the circles and your access to it. In my country there is a big swinger culture and we have a lot of swinger/sex clubs. There are a lot of event organizers who are all about the younger and sexier crowd. Granted, it's unusual to have a LOT of people in their early twenties, but interest is there. But if you're a Millenial there are a lot of singles and couples who enjoy all kinds of flavors of ENM and this it is fairly easy to get together exclusive parties with a bunch of attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:26 PM
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I've read some "ick" confessions online and some of those were ridiculous. Idk how true they really were but if you would dismiss someone for the drink they're ordering or because you don't like how they tie their shoes then that signals to me that you don't have real problems and fill your life with imaginary ones, sabotaging your own possible success in your love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:52 PM
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I had to google what that means. Hermaphrodites? I can see how some men might be into that. Majority of straight men, though? Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 02:10 PM
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Yes, in a woman, preferably their own. Not on a woman, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:45 AM
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You can never convince them that non-jealousy or god forbid non-monogamy/sharing is not the same as cucking. They don't care that cuckholding is a very specific kink where humiliation is explicitly part of the fantasy. For them, non-monogamy in itself is humiliating and they simply can't wrap their heads around it that this is simply not the case for everyone. If someone doesn't have the same view as them they are either lying or morally wrong. It's not worth trying to debate with someone who do…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:39 AM
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Same as men. There are a lot of men who don't care about it. What I have seen from a lot of men here is the inability to entertain an idea without adopting it. Either every man secretly thinks exactly how they do or if a man doesn't agree with their opinion then he is morally wrong and an idiot, instead of simply having a different opinion that has no effect on anyone else than himself. "Men are not a monolith" is only used when it's convenient to them but when confronted with actual diverting o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 02:42 AM
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My partner and I are childfree. I take on more of the expenses because I make significantly more than him. I want us both to enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:16 AM
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No, it's brilliant actually. It frees from this stupid habit assigning "masculine" or "feminine" to specific characteristics. It's so unnecessary. I'm a woman, so everything I do is automatically feminine - I love this. The world would be a better place if we could stop with the masculine and feminine bullshit. There is biological sex, there is sexual orientation, and there are personality traits and characteristics. And you can have all kinds of combinations of those without having to forcefull…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:51 PM
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But isn't that only the top 1% or something like that? I thought that average-wise OF is not better than an MLM, if you lucked out then you make bank but that's not true for the vast majority of people on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:48 AM
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I can see that this could factor into dating considerations if one wants kids, which we don't. But honestly, if I were single now with my current income (which I didn't have when I started dating my SO in my 20s) then if anything a potential partner's income would be even less relevant than if I had a job that didn't pay as well. I think I'm pretty typical in my view on finances, which is that a potential partner should have a job with which they can sustain themselves. As long as bills are gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:29 AM
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I mean I make about 100k in a year and my partner makes a lot less, especially being self-employed in an industry that just gets harsher, after bills and people are paid, there are months where he doesn't pay himself because the money just isn't there and I'm taking over 100% of our shared finances. It is what it is. I don't know any woman in a relationship who wouldn't do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:11 AM
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I honestly don't know if this is really such an issue irl. I'm not American, so I don't know what's going on over there, but in my country it's really nothing unusual if a woman makes more money than her partner and people still get together without problems. I make more than my SO, who has a typical blue collar job and is self-employed while I work a corporate job. He never felt emasculated nor do I respect him less for it. It's such a non-issue. The important thing is that we can sustain ourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:54 PM
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You are proclaiming that it's good to have kids as if it was a fact and not just merely your own personal opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 08:54 AM
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Okay so her fantasy and nervousness got the better of her. If she also felt that there was chemistry between you too she probably regretted this foot in mouth situation afterwards. Dating is like everything else, the more experience one has the less nervous one gets. It's like public speaking. You should have said something like "I'm not a serial killer but if I'm good at my job and a serial killer walks, you can get the chance to meet him on your next date."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:32 PM
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That's harsh. I assume you didn't purposefully try to come off as a dangerous individual, so it's possible that it was a combination of a very anxious person interpreting too much into a comment or something like that. Though, if she actually believed that there's a possibility that you actually were a serial killer, she demonstrated poor intelligence and survival skills just asking and confronting you. So one has to assume that instead for whatever reason she wanted to offend you and make you f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:08 PM
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Did they ask with a straight face seemingly scared of you or did they try to banter and missed the mark?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:52 PM
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Yes, because a lot of people are stupid and 50% of people are women, so a lot of women are stupid. Especially with that Chris Brown case, it was ages ago when I stumbled upon a facebook post about him with a comment section where some women proclaimed attraction even though it was clear that he's violent. Scrolling through those profiles just showed exactly what I was suspecting anyways. Not very intelligent, uneducated people, not much going on in their brains. Can be very nice and pleasant but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 07:07 AM
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That implies that life = coupling up and reproducing, which is simply not the case. There is not only one script everyone has to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:32 AM
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Lol no, it's the other way around. Good sex leads to orgasms, an orgasm is the result of good sex. The absence of an orgasm doesn't indicate that there's a limited enjoyment of sex in general, it means that this particular sex was not good enough to result in an orgasm. One can't simply wish an orgasm into existence, it requires skills. You can be very enthusiastic about sex beforehand and then it's just bad and not enjoyable. But this is always about the specific sex, it only becomes a general …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:31 PM
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Well, at least some positive things about us ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:31 PM
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If you're looking for sex and passion, maybe the usual dating apps aren't the best. We do have that big german language based erotic website/forum/dating site. Once I made an account there I deleted Tinder. And I've heard from men that they're more successful there than on normal dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:29 PM
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In clubs it's more common here as well, but getting touchy feely usually happens on the dance floor, which can be annoying, but usually not when you're sitting at a table. That being said, cold approaches at a club are kind of expected, so if you don't want that you avoid clubs. But this "not being able to go outside the house without constantly being approached" which seems to be normal in the US(?) is just not happening here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:13 PM
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That's honestly really sad. I don't know his wife, but he started to pop up for me because of his comedy clips and I always thought that he is quite the attractive guy. Beautiful eyes, and then funny on top. I'm sure I'm not the only woman who finds him genuinely attractive so he could definitely find someone who is actually into him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:37 PM
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That may be cultural. Where I come from cold approaches in non-social settings (shopping center vs. A bar or club) is simply not the norm and thus not happening often. So when it happens on a rare occasion I don't mind it. I also never had a bad experience with it. So I don't have a problem with it and if I were actively interested in finding a man I would appreciate being approached even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:26 PM
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No it's not, otherwise men wouldn't complain about Chad and that rules are being broken for him while hold for others, etc. It is not the man who dictates if a woman will want to have sex with him. She already wanted sex and he is lucky, so to speak, that she stumbled upon him when she was already in the mood. If I want to have casual sex, I'm looking for a man I find attractive enough to have sex. If I had met the same man during a period when I am not interested in casual sex, then no sex will…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:13 PM
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I honestly think this differs between cultures and generations. I'm a Millenial woman who is from a European country where cold approaching in non-social areas (grocery shopping vs. bar/club) isn't the norm to begin with. So whenever it happens to me on a rare occasion I don't mind it, it happens rarely enough that I don't get annoyed by it. I get hit on in places where it is deemed acceptable and if I don't want that I simply don't go to those places. For the longest time I mainly witnessed Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:57 PM
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I mean yes, ideally she would, right? We are a 2-income household but I do take care of the majority of our expenses simply because I make more than my partner. That's what you do in a loving relationship, no matter if you're a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:40 PM
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I agree with you that people shouldn't be tying their identity to their job. I think it is practical both for men and women to care about that a potential partner has and can keep a job that pays enough to sustain them. But that is simply an advice from me. I personally would not encourage someone being a SAHP for a very long time, no matter if it's the woman or the man. Being a 2-income household is simply more robust in my opinion. But besides that I personally don't care what my partner does …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:27 PM
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Same, 99% of first dates I've been on were casual and cheap or free (a walk through a park) and a mixture of who paid for the coffee, drink or ice cream. I did cheap dates in my 20s and also in my 30s. And that's pretty standard for where I'm coming from. I don't think I even know women who expect to be wined and dined when going on a first date and also going Dutch is completely normal here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:38 PM
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Nobody "needs" sexual variety. Some want it, and among those are many women. I'm a woman and I enjoy sexual variety and even the women who are monogamously inclined usually have slept with more than one man, even if only in serious relationships, and they don't mind the variety of sexual experiences they've made with different people throughout their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:17 PM
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The world view that divides women in good ones and whores. And that it's "insulting" if a "whore" dares to want a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:38 AM
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That's good at least. I don't speak for all women but even when I was still living the life of what a "good" woman is in your world view, I still wouldn't have been interested in a relationship with a man with such a world view. If you're open from the beginning in saying that you're only looking for a good time and get together with women who want the same then I don't see an issue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 07:00 AM
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Wow, I honestly pity the woman who will end up with you. Please do everyone a favor and tell them exactly your thought process, preferably on a first date. No woman should be blindsided by such a world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:04 AM
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What does that have anything to do with unwanted and unrequested dick pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:02 PM
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I always wonder, what is the alternative? I mean, we cherish each other because of how the relationship makes us feel, etc. And this is all based on actions. Otherwise, what you want is to be a statue that stands in the corner and is just admired for its beauty, I guess? That's the only thing I can think about when people say "I want to be loved for who I am, not what I do". But who we are can only be expressed in what we do. If you're funny, you make people laugh, that's an action. If you're a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:53 PM
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I mean, I did go to church years ago and read the bible and this sentence kind of stuck. I just found it a nice sentiment and a good tip for a relationship, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 07:17 PM
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Yeah I'm not religious, but if I remember correctly there's a passage in the bible that says something like "regard each other higher than yourself". Ideally if both do that in a marriage then it should even out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 06:59 PM

Ew, well, I guess I found my personal ick, this kind of thinking. But then, I also don't think that sex with men makes me gross. If that's the thinking behind the hypocrisy then I feel sorry for men for having such a low opinion of themselves if they think that they're tainting others by having sex with them. That can't be a healthy outlook for one's mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:08 PM

If that's true then this is absolutely disgusting. I can't imagine how someone can get "the ick" from their partner being vulnerable and trusting with their trauma. But then, I also never understood "the ick" when it comes to bi guys. Bi guys are just guys and come in all shades, just as straight guys. They're not automatically less dominant or "feminine". If you only like "masculine" men, fair enough, but that has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation. There are plenty of straight men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:49 PM
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I think that's the general issue of getting older. The older we get we get more stuck in our ways and it's harder to compromise. I think this is mostly the crux of getting into new relationships the older you get. I've ben with my partner since my mid 20s, more than a decade later we are set in our ways, we have figured out the most comfortable way of living with each other, accept the other with the precise flaws each of us has, figured out what is acceptable and what not, etc. If I were to bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 10:16 AM
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Yep, people say fwb when what they actually mean is wanting/having a fuckbuddy. For a fwb you actually have to be, you know, friends, and that includes activities you do with friends and being there for each other. It's totally fine if you don't want this, but then don't say you want a fwb arrangement, say you want regular casual sex with a fuckbuddy, then everything is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:46 AM
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I think that's the difference between a fwb and a fuckbuddy and people don't make the distinction enough. In a fwb situation I would think that both are actually interested in the "being friends" part, which includes non-sex related activities and being there for each other emotionally. If one isn't interested in that and wants to limit it to mainly sex, one should say they're looking for a fuckbuddy, not a fwb. With men it is way easier to find a fuckbuddy than a true fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:41 AM
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Yes, consenting to unwanted sex out of duty/love absolutely causes trauma and sex aversion. That is a known fact and couples struggling with their sex life are advised to not do duty sex. You just have to look into the low libido subreddit to read about the trauma of people who had sex they didn't actually want in order to appease their partner. It can cause long lasting damage and it's astounding how cavalier people are still treating this subject. To make it very clear: yes, having sex one doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:55 AM
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Germany. Idk, this was more than ten years ago, it simply never occurred to me not to discuss where each of us stands. I can't read minds and you never know how something develops. When we started going out we explicitly said it's just fun and everyone is free to meet others, after a while we agreed upon sexual exclusivity but not a serious relationship and then after a while both of us developed interest in actually being in a relationship with each other. We discussed every of those steps to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 12:41 PM
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I never understand why people are saying that. I'm from Europe as well and my partner and I discussed and agreed upon each escalation step of our relationship and I find that totally normal and logical. I would never just assume things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 09:57 AM
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But how can you objectively state that rejection is because of leagues or simply personal preferences? I think (?) I'm fairly attractive and never had issues attracting men, those I find attractive myself and those I don't find attractive. If someone isn't interested in me I simply think that I'm not their type, I don't think they're out of my league. I'm sure there are tons of men who might not find me attractive who I also don't find attractive. How would you even assign a league in such a sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 08:10 PM
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Oh no, I definitely agree. If you're into that stuff, it's definitely a nice experience. I was simply agreeing with the commenter that it isn't that simple to get access to those parties, especially as a single man. They can be quite ruthless when it comes to looks. The men who are granted access usually also don't have that much struggle finding sexual partners outside of that environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 09:03 AM
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Agree, I've been to such parties, and even if they include single men (and single women) the organizers absolutely filter. Some are more lax then others, some are very strict. As someone who goes to such parties by myself (my partner isn't too interested) I stick with more stricter organizers and check the guest list upfront. Personally I don't even have sex in clubs, I just like the atmosphere and actually feel more safe than if I went to a normal club, but if you go to such an event you want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:00 PM

As someone who actually is in an open relationship I would say that most people aren't suited for it. That doesn't make me better or 'more evolved', my brain simply makes my personality (and my partner's) suitable for it and we happened to agree with each other on that subject. That being said, I still think that life-long monogamy with one partner is very hard for most people, and that's why we see serial monogamy so much. I would agree that people crave novelty and my personal theory is that n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 07:05 AM
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Also depends on culture/environment. In my country for example it's simply not the norm to just approach women/people out and about, no matter if they're attractive or not. It happened a few times to me but not very often (outside of dedicated social places where it is "allowed" and expected). If I travel to countries where this is more normal, it's a completely different thing. So there are more factors than just attractiveness or the lack thereof, the environment/culture also needs to allow it…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:52 PM
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Although dating apps can be their own hell, they make approaching for women so easy. There's no risk and nothing to lose. In real life it can be nerve wrecking, although I had also done this and it's exhilarating if it works out. But online? Easiest thing. There's enough of a separation that if he's just not into you, it doesn't really sting. If he's not, the next one will be. Being a woman on dating apps is great for the first step. Now, this doesn't mean that one can't have shitty experiences,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:47 PM
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And it gets harder the older you get because you get more set in your ways and character. I've got together with my partner in my twenties. We rubbed off of each other, formed ourselves into fitting pieces for each other. Now we do fit each other but probably not a lot of other people. As we are in an open relationship I've been on dates with men in my thirties. Nice men, good men even, only few who had actual red flags like indulging in too much alcohol on a too regular basis or being a selfish…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:34 PM
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Look, there is nothing wrong with being unexperienced but there's always a reason and with men, more often than not, the reason is that they're simply unattractive. You say that a woman who doesn't mind to teach is one in a million? That's because an unexperienced guy who is still hot, hygienic and actually likes women is one in a million. How many of unexperienced guys in their 30s actually look good and don't have a bunch of issues but simply didn't have luck or e.g. were religious for a long …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:56 AM

No, what's annoying is that red pill guys invent (non-provable) explanations for everything to make it fit their rhetoric. I always say it's like a religion. They already have their opinion and thus need to find explanations in order to not question their own belief system. Just like uber Christians with dinosaur bones. Oh, we have bones that proof the earth is older than 6000 years? Well, clearly, God put them there to test our faith, duh. Oh, there are plenty of average women who are not with …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 12:40 PM
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Having previous relationships is baggage? I can understand not wanting to deal with kids, I wouldn't want that myself, but if I were to become single now and dated within my age bracket I would absolutely expect the guy to have had relationships or being married and divorced. Someone without any prior relationship who is in their thirties and above is quite rare. But I also wouldn't go after younger men specifically in the hope of finding one without prior relationship experience, that would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:18 AM
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I'm a woman but same. When I rejected someone it was simply because there was no sexual attraction, even if I liked them as a person. I don't keep tabs on men I rejected but if I liked them as a person and at some point learned that they're in a happy relationship I simply would be happy for them. I couldn't be happy with someone in a romantic relationship if I'm not attracted to them, we would both be miserable. I have never been in a situation where I rejected someone because I wasn't attracte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:53 PM
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I wanted to say similar. Also "pure lust" can be heavily influenced depending on where she is in her cycle and how she feels about herself. If I'm on my period, feel bloated, tired and annoyed, any man I might meet wouldn't be in a good position. If I met the same man two weeks later it could be a different scenario. It doesn't JUST depend on the man and his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 11:03 AM

Omfg dude, I called you out, you wrote gibberish and now you're acting all pretentious, how pathetic can you be? I may be old but at least I'm not stealing some teenage girl's picture and pretending to be her to get in contact with other teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:11 AM
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Are you having a stroke?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 12:04 AM
2

Hey quick question: how does one reconcile feeling morally superior to a grown woman who simply likes bi men while at the same time LARPing as a teenage girl online, using some girl's photo and invading a subreddit for teenagers? Idk about you but I feel that your behavior is worse than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:51 AM
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I'll give him your regards 😈 he's currently enjoying a spontaneous solo-trip to another country, maybe fucking a beautiful woman while he's there, made possible by me holding down the fort at home. I think he'll be alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 03:04 PM
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No, I'm saying that assigning a label to the act of penetration without context and over all sexual encounters for all people is stupid. Penetrating CAN be dominant, but it doesn't HAS to be and isn't for every couple out there that is engaging in it. But besides that, I was talking about masculine and feminine. Dominant isn't automatically masculine, submissive isn't automatically feminine. Penetration isn't automatically any of those four labels. Penetration is whatever the people engaging in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 12:19 PM
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And that just shows that people are dumb 🤷‍♀️ penetration is simply a mechanical sex act. Something is put into one hole or the other. During that act one partner can act submissive and the other part can act dominant, but that has nothing to do with the sex act itself being one or the other. I can be penetrated by a man and still be dominant towards him and he can be submissive while penetrating me. Same for a bi man who is being penetrated. You create your own sexual scene. Also, no one has to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:54 AM
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Agree. Also, it's bullshit. Penetration is fun. Attaching arbitrary labels like "feminine" or "masculine" to sex acts is just limiting and suffocating and takes the fun out of sex. I'm a woman but like to watch gay male porn here and there. I've seen gorgeous, well built, muscular men being fucked by other gorgeous men. Two men fucking each other, nothing "feminine" about it, looked pretty "masculine" to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:48 AM
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I would love to have two boyfriends who are boyfriends to each other as well, actually. A nice, sexy throuple. Alas, I fell in love with a heterosexual man in my youth, more than a decade ago, and we're still together, so this ship has sailed. But seriously, if hot men are bi, they become even hotter in my eyes 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 06:38 AM
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Idk, that is strange. I certainly wouldn't have an issue with suggesting losing weight. As a woman I am privileged in knowing that there are enough men who actually find chubby women attractive. I have a nice face and never had issues with attracting men even when I was overweight, but I was not delusional enough to think that no man would mind the extra weight. Now that I've lost it, attention is even more. So yeah, if someone who is overweight asked me for advice, this is the first thing I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:57 AM
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If it's just regarding the body, it's one thing (lose weight, gain weight, etc.) but if it's the face that is an issue (or at least if it's for me because of what I personally perceive as unattractive) it's really hard to give advice without coming across as an awful person. Are we supposed to suggest plastic surgery? Tidiness is one thing (get your hair/brows/beard done), but if it's the whole ensemble without immediate solutions? I'm not a plastic surgeon, Idk which type of nose fits with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:34 AM
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Yes, I did actually. Started out with a hookup, became fwb, then decided to give a relationship a go and are still together more than ten years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 06:33 PM

I think it really depends on the friend group. I know a bunch of such people. They're in relationships, partners are in the friend group as well. They vacation with each other, have seen each other naked, cuddling and hugging is going on constantly and nobody is weirded out. That's just the dynamic of the whole group. They're not fucking each other, but have always been very physical with each other, also the men among each other. To each their own, I always found it very refreshing, and being i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 09:58 PM

Oh, I don't really care about it. I enjoy being the one who pays but it's also not really important to me. If he has really strong feelings about it, I let him do what he wants to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 06:48 AM
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I guess because they don't expect it. I'm from a country where 50:50 is the norm but still a lot of men want to pay for drinks at the first date. They're not prepared for a woman to pay for both and don't know what to do when I insist. I guess it fucks with the script they had in their head of how the date is ought to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:59 PM
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Yeah, I don't get it. I like going to a cocktail bar or something like that. I guess I don't even have anything against food per sé, if you're hungry, you're hungry, but that whole dinner date setting in an expensive restaurant is just too much for a first date. Coffee dates are also nice, or walking in a park. That way you can comfortably end it early if the vibes are off, no harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:39 PM
12

Germany
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:58 PM
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That's what I do as a woman. It's adorable seeing men getting flustered. 10/10 can recommend. But I'm also not doing dinner dates for a first date. How awkward is that? Maybe it's a cultural difference, but we don't do that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:38 PM
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It's both. There is definitely a threshold you need to meet lookswise. However, being able to arouse her verbally if your looks are "attractive enough" can be of a huge advantage. At least I think so. I can only speak for myself of course. Obviously 10/10 would be a very physically attractive man who is also able to use his mouth for some proficient dirty talk, because that really gets a lot of women going. And then he delivers in the bedroom. But, if he looks super attractive but is bad at arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:03 AM
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European countries have a way better general safety net, though. It's not perfect but if you're a woman in Germany who hasn't worked for years because you took care of the kids and then get divorced, you're not as screwed as if you were in the US. I still wouldn't ever put myself in a situation where I would deliberately make myself financially dependent on someone else but especially not I lived in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:14 PM
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Yeah same. Or those who had been married already and it failed, sometimes twice if they dared to do it again, the third time they're like "no thanks, been there, done that", even if they have kids with that third guy. And honestly, I feel that's the right decision because they clearly have issues in that department. I don't want kids and have no big wish to get married. There's simply no real reason, for various reasons there would be a lot of paperwork involved, and I am simply too lazy to deal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 10:06 PM
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Who forbids them from actively participating in the planning? My brother-in-law was very involved in planning his own wedding. E.g. he insisted on having a small gaming corner with gaming consoles to have a bit of fun with his homies. Personally I found that a bit ridiculous, but my sister didn't have an issue with it. Games were played, but of course it was only a smart part, like a gimmick, but nonetheless, it was entirely for the groom and reflected his personality and his wishes for his wedd…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 09:53 PM
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And sometimes life happens and there's a reason why older people are single. I've met my SO in my 20s, I'm in my 30s now. We're still together, but there's no guarantee for anything in life. Tomorrow I could be single because he got tired of me or died - who knows? You can do everything "right" and still end up single (again) in your older years after death, breakups or divorces. Not everyone gets it right immediately when they're 20 and life a happy married life until both pass away when they'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 06:11 PM
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Eh, talk to men who have the madonna/whore-complex going on, they might disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:52 PM
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Lol sure, visit the dead bedroom or high libido women sub and see how much it is not a given that a man desires the woman he's in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:50 PM
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Yeah, I don't get trying to theorize about simple things and making it more complicated than it needs to be. People meet, find each other attractive and lust for each other, have sex, have more sex and get to know each other more, discover that they like each other in addition to lusting after each, decide to give a relationship a try. Voila, really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:10 AM

Dude, come on. No guy with some sense will post a picture of himself in bed with greasy hair, double chin and an unwashed face. Makeup or no makeup, you can't compare dating profile pics to verification pics. Also, weight is only one factor when it comes to physical attractiveness. The face is way more important. You can have the best body and the most abs, if your face looks like Quasimodo's then even the best sculpted body won't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:14 PM

Half is quite generous, don't you think? The selected pics for that collage show a good overview of what's out there but I would say maybe 10-15% of those shown are really top physical male beauty. (Edit: just went through them. Of the shown pics/the ones that are discernable, I counted 8 pics that I would score as the most attractive, so my ballpark of 10-15% seems more or less accurate. I could probably add 1-2 more among the ones that are too small or where one can't see the face clearly) If …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:59 PM
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Funny, it's the same for me with men IRL. I excuse it with a cultural plus generational thing. I'm a mid thirties woman from Europe, my experiences with men IRL are completely different from what I am reading here, where I assume that most men are in their early twenties and American. Let's say I understand that there seems to be a disconnect between the sexes in American youth, I certainly wouldn't want to be a young woman in the US right now. Neither in my own youth nor now with men in my gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:12 PM
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Depends. Theoretically yes. But when I met my SO, even though we started out as casual, I got together with him precisely because of who he was. I wasn't searching, nor really open for romance as at that time I didn't plan on staying in the area. But I met him and wanted him, him specifically, not just a man who fits most of my expectations. I didn't have expectations, I was happy being single, but when we met he simply became what I wanted because he is who he is. He didn't fit a (non-existing)…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:45 PM
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You should be special to your own SO, though. As well as your family. I'm not going around thinking that I'm more special or important than anyone else in the general sense, but it would be pretty depressing to think that I'm basically interchangable to my own life partner of over a decade. Who would actually want such a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 11:31 AM
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That is simply not true and nothing more than your personal opinion that you try to sell as facts. You're "no true Scotsman"ning male heterosexuality here and just expect everyone to go with it, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 11:19 AM
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MFM threesomes are a thing and way easier to organize than an MMF with bi dudes and I would even say easier than a MFF or FMF threesome. If you're a heterosexual couple you will always find a single dude who is up for a MFM without sexual exchange between the men. It's way harder to find a woman who is up for that, it's a reason they're called unicorns in the non-mono world. So, even if a woman isn't interested in bisexual men, being pleasured by more than one man at the same time is a widely sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 08:06 AM
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With regular sex work you have cash on hand. With becoming the gf of a dude he may provide shelter and food but no income. And once you're in that vulnerable spot life can become real fast even if you manage to find a regular job (and are allowed to do so). I'm not a fan of sex work itself but I will always understand not wanting to rely financially on another human. I'd rather scrub toilets (and did) in order to have my own money, no matter how little.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:50 PM
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You would get negative feedback but I dare say you would also get way more positive feedback than 10 or 15 years ago. I'm a Millenial in my mid 30s and was using the Internet and socialized IRL 15 years and more ago. Young people today are way more conservative/prudish/judgemental than we were in our youth. I'm not from an urban area and we did have slut shaming growing up but nothing like what I see today from young people. In my youth, no matter your background (except if you are very religiou…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 09:07 PM
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It's not really an exception though is what I'm saying. This example was just an extreme one because of the status difference. But I know several single moms, some of them with kids from more than one guy, and each of them was able to fall in love and get into a serious relationship/marriage. Women who end up single in older age due to losing their husbands - no issue at all finding love again. If anything I see women staying single on purpose, especially if they have grown kids and grandkids al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:16 PM
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This doesn't seem to be the reality around me tbh. My favorite example is of a female relative of mine. Married young and followed her ex-husband to his country. Had four kids with him. He put her through hell and decided that drugs, gambling and whores are more interesting than being a family man. Literally lost his job after she finally left him because she was the one who made sure that he actually woke up to be at his job on time. Dodged drug testing at his job. She had no education, ex made…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:17 PM
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Yeah, but it's not ONLY the biological sex. Those same lesbians also wouldn't date a trans man even if he still had a vagina. Which obviously is okay, you can be as "discriminating" as you wish when it comes to dating. But yeah, sexual attraction is a combination of the genitals and secondary physical factors of femaleness or maleness whose presence or absence influence sexual attraction and are a part of what sexuality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:28 AM
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I just read you're 19. Legally an adult, but developmentally and life experience wise not really. Just what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:17 AM
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Are you an adult, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:09 AM
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I don't know any man who doesn't have his own expectations for a woman when it comes to being in a relationship with him and those expectations are definitely more than "female and breathing". I don't understand why so often men here are presented as those pathetic doormats without agency begging for scraps. This is not my experience with the majority of men I come across.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:33 PM
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Is that your experience with this one woman or literally all women you know? Because you bring up an example of an individual who quite honestly sounds exhausting but your conclusion is that one should only debate on surface level with "them", not her in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:10 AM
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This discourse definitely exists, mostly among the 'non-fun' second wave feminists. But they also tend to be gender critical and screamed down in online and offline feminist places, called TERFS and SWERFS and on reddit their subreddits get brigarded and taken down, so it seems like they don't exist, but they do. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:03 AM
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That kind of criticism is mostly bruised ego if someone catches feelings and they're not reciprocated, in my opinion. As long as someone is upfront about what they want/don't want, it's okay in my book. On the one hand it's "If you don't want to settle down/don't want monogamy, stay single". If they do that, it's suddenly "Peter Pan syndrome" and he "needs to grow up". It's something different if they're stringing someone along and using them for domestic labor. But a single guy who pays for his…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:13 PM
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As a woman who actually had approached: If a guy approaches a woman and she's not interested, she will just reject and that's it. If a woman approaches a guy and he's not interested, chances are he will still entertain her out of boredom or having no better alternatives and waste her time for a bit. I personally don't have anything against casual encounters, mind you, and never have sex if I'm not willing to walk away with getting 'just' sex. But if a guy approaches me, even if he's only interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:27 PM
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If that's your experience then you're absolutely justified to step away from dating. With all of your comments here you come across as quite bitter to be honest. I'm sorry if that has been your experience. But I honestly don't know what to tell you at this point. If you're of the opinion that the majority of women are trash then it might be better to abstain from them, don't you think? You're not obligated to date them. You can lament the downfall of womankind all you want and I'm sure there are…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:53 PM
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But it doesn't matter if she had casual sex before or not. Either she is enthusiastic about you or not. She won't be NOT enthusiastic about you just BECAUSE she had casual sex before.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:29 PM
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If you say so 🤷‍♀️ I don't see a difference in staying together between couples who were only with each other and couples where they slept around before. The only difference is religious couples, and even there I have seen divorce and unhappiness. If it's a risk for you, then don't date someone who is promiscuous. I see it on myself that nothing about my personality changed once I had NSA encounters. I was fairly inexperienced when I got together with my partner. Many years later we opened the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:54 PM
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Who says she only saw you BECAUSE she stopped having casual sex? She probably didn't even know you before. Who says she wouldn't have slept with you while she was only interested in casual sex and nothing serious? I don't get why some people take everything so personally when most of the time it's simply timing. In general, if you don't believe a person is actually into you then don't get with them. This ist true no matter if someone had casual sex before or didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:49 PM
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Same to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:27 PM
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Eh, maybe. If so, I personally can't relate to these women, but that's probably because I don't have a strategy in the first place. I'm still in my first adult relationship for 12 years now and we started out as fuckbuddies, both developed feelings and found out that we're compatible and making an effort for each other. It was all rather easy, even though later on we also had very hard periods that could have ended the relationship but luckily we worked through it. So I guess if I ever should en…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:08 PM
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It is because sex with my partner is still meaningful and intimate and romantic. Sex isn't ALWAYS deep and meaningful, that doesn't mean I can NEVER see sex as deep and meaningful. I'm still capable of love and deep connections and caring for my SO. That ability doesn't vanishes just because I ALSO can have NSA sex. It's not either one or the other and it's really troublesome that some people can't seem to grasp that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:01 PM
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Then they can be mad 🤷‍♀️ Personally I have sex when I actually want to have sex. And oftentimes that doesn't even have anything to do with the guy. There's hormones and general life, if I'm on my period or not, etc. Sometimes sex happens because the stars align and two people are at the right place at the right time. I think those dudes may take things too personally. I've been on dates where I fucked the same night and on dates where I didn't feel like it for that particular nights. Maybe I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:57 AM
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Idk about healing phase. I never was in a state that needed healing in regards to sex. Personally I simply didn't have a lot of experience when I got together with my partner in my twenties. In our thirties we both wanted a bit more of variety and opened the relationship, I had sex with different people simply because it was fun, it was fun experiencing a new person. It was the same for my partner, though he already had way more experience before we got together and would have been open to an op…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:31 AM
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Never. We're both shit at household chores, but I do a bit more than him because I mostly wfh. I have a corporate job and make more money, but he's self-employed in a blue collar job and works way more hours. So I'm not complaining that he's mostly not cleaning, but he's also not complaining. In his own words "If it was really that important to me I would find the time". It's just not a priority for us and we outsource sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 10:14 AM
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Eh, when I was a teenager I had a weird religious phase where I went to a conservative church for a few years. Teens and adults who were raised in that church, surrounded by friends who were raised in that church (I was basically an outsider coming in) still rebelled quietly, having relationships and sex outside of marriage, there was gossip, people being treated badly. I wouldn't agree that raising your child a specific way means they will turn out the way you want them to and I saw more damage…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:36 AM
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Lol, there isn't a promiscuous gene 😆 And in any case, that is totally fine. You can have any requirements for a potential partner that you want to have. I don't agree with your assessments about promiscuous people, but even that is irrelevant. I only made my comment because here on PPD it almost seems as if people think that forpromiscuous people it's, Idk, physically impossible to attach deep feelings to sex and have meaningful intimacy within a relationship. It's like they think once you had …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 08:16 AM
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Well yes of course. Those people would be wrong, but everyone has the right to make decisions based on their wrong assumptions, I claim that right for myself as well 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:03 AM
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Well, first of all, there is risk to everything. You can even get married and later fucked over. If you don't want to risk getting hurt in the context of human interaction, you have to become a hermit. But other than that: communication? I have always known in what kind of situation I am. If it's just casual, this is communicated and one can set their expectations accordingly. My partner and I started out casually, then became exclusive sex partners, then decided that we both were actually inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:30 AM
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Of course they do, I never said they can't? I'm only saying that people who can view sex as something fun and recreational can ALSO see it as deep and meaningful. Context is everything. I simply reject the notion that people who are able to detach emotions from sex are unable to attach emotions to sex. A person can experience both kinds of sex, it's not mutually exclusive. That doesn't mean that people who can't detach emotions from sex aren't allowed to only be with other people who can't detac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:22 AM
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Sex can be whatever one likes it to be and everything one likes it to be. Why do you think sex is ONLY a fun activity for promiscuous people? I am promiscuous (or had a rather promiscuous phase) and I still value sex in a relationship as loving intimacy. It's not a binary thing. People are capable of multiple views and emotions. I can absolutely understand if someone ONLY views sex as something intimate with a loved one, but that doesn't mean that people who are able to view it as a fun activity…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:00 AM
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But sexuality is based on the sex of the people you're sexually attracted to, not their own sexuality. Otherwise hetero women wouldn't accidentally fall in love with homosexual men or homosexual men being attracted to heterosexual men. Of course additional information about a specific person can turn you off, like if they're racist or bisexual, but that has nothing to do with sexuality. Heterosexuality means being attracted to the opposite sex, not being attracted to the opposite sex that is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:42 PM
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Strictly speaking only actual sexual desire towards specific people(same sex, opposite sex, both) defines your sexuality, not even the sex you might have. I mean we accept e.g. that there are gay people who came out very late, were even married to the opposite sex and had sex with them but identify as gay. During history there were gay people who went to their grave without ever having sex with the subset of people they're actually attracted to, but that doesn't make them any less gay. Homosexua…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:33 PM
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When I was still using Tinder I didn't swipe at all. I was one of the women who actually paid for the app in order to see who swiped right on me. I just went through the list and matched with those I found attractive and messaged them. I found that to be a better use of my time instead of sitting there and swiping, hoping that someone I liked likes me back. So I wasn't really overwhelmed by matches, but it definitely was bizarre to see how fast the likes accumulated for a profile of a pretty sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:55 PM
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No, I think it's more a subconscious process. The only time I see women deliberately staying a bit longer than they actually want to is if leaving immediately means being home- and pennyless, losing their kids/leaving them in a dangerous situation. If you're independent, have the finances and aren't in a dangerous situation that requires careful planning, you'd want to gtfo as soon as possible once you consciously realize that it won't get better and that it's not worth it to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 08:43 AM
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First of all you're not ugly wtf? Also, yes, putting in effort can definitely make a difference. I'm not on dating apps for actual relationships, but I use a website for mostly hookups. Some guys put zero effort into their profiles. Like 1-2 pics and no bio at all. I disregard them all, even if they're good looking. Even if it's just about sex, if someone puts zero effort into their profile to attract people to me that reads like they would put in the same non-effort into sex. Not interested. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:43 PM
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Tbh you do sound like you have issues. I really hope you treat this woman right because based on your own words about yourself dating you doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:45 AM
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The regretful parents sub is full of examples of partners switching personalities after children. It seems like having children can make someone change for the worse without prior indications. There's a reason why children generally don't make a relationship inherently better, it's just that some relationships survive bringing children into it and others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:07 AM
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Kids should absolutely be the priority. Doesn't mean that someone without kids should have to put up with it, though. I'm childfree. Should I ever be single again I wouldn't date a man with kids. There's no reason for me to take on this burden if I just as well can find a suitable man without kids. Single parents should just date each other, problem solved. They both need to put their kids first so they're on the same level. It's equal and one doesn't have to sacrifice more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:01 AM
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I'll let you know that it's way easier to organize a MFM where straight dudes are only interested in the woman than setting up a MMF with bi guys. I haven't accomplished the latter yet. First of all there are way less bi men than straight men. There are "bio-curious" men who would let another man suck their dick but never kiss them. I'm not interested in that. And with MMF you have to make sure that every participant is attracted to every other participant while with MFM the guys just need to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:48 PM
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Preference and sexual attraction is not the same, though. You find people sexually attractive before you know what their own sexuality is. Otherwise a straight man would never find a lesbian attractive or a gay dude fall for a straight guy. Your preference can then come into play once you learn more about the person, e.g. if they're trans and you don't want to date a trans person. But one's own sexuality is not dependent on someone else's sexuality. Being straight doesn't mean being attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:33 PM
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I have always paid for a premium account as a woman. It's simply easier. You have access to all the features and I could see who had already liked my profile. I never really did the whole swiping thing unless out of boredom. I usually just went through my list of likes and connected with the ones I was also interested in. So, instant match instead of hoping that they would like my profile, too. Now I'm on a website where you can only send a message as the first person to message if you have a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:26 PM
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That is absolutely bonkers to me. In my country it is not custom to cold approach in places that are not intended for it (bars, clubs) like the grocery store or something like that. But it can happen on occasion and it did to me. Never ever was I frustrated by being approached by someone "beneath me" because it's really ugly to think like that about people in the first place. Just because I'm not attracted to someone doesn't mean that someone wouldn't be. And even if I thought that someone was "…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:10 PM
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Eh, I wouldn't say that is true. I'm not neurodivergent but it happened to me where I didn't have any idea. Maybe it's more an age thing because I was a teenager. But with one guy in my friend group whom I didn't fancy at all it happened rather harshly where he basically switched over night in his behavior and wanted to "confess" to me and I didn't know how to deal. Once he started hinting I got the picture and tried everything to persuade him away from actually spilling it out so that both of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:58 PM
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This can also happen to women and I think it's a misconception of what is actually happening. It's simply NRE - new relationships energy. The spark IS there in the beginning. I think too many people underestimate the number of people (women AND men) who are mostly interested in sex when it's new and exciting and with someone whom they don't know yet completely. Add to that hormones (higher testosterone makes you generally more "spontaneously horny" than not), sex that is "mechanically" not good …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:26 AM
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For me definitely. Now, if the body is extreme, like super skinny or super fat, then yeah, that will make the dude overall less attractive. But great face with average body will always beat ugly face with super fit and attractive body. At least for me. I've seen a lot of dudes who work out and have great bodies and I congratulate them on their discipline and workout success. But if I'm not attracted to their face, the best body will not help in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:23 PM
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Agree, I'm one of those women who simply has low sensitivity. Always has been. It was rather frustrating figuring masturbation out as an unexperienced teen not able to get rid of the horniness. I absolutely envy women who can cum with gentle tongue strokes, for me a tongue will never be able to produce enough pressure. It is what it is, thank God for vibrators 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:35 AM
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Definitely agree with the conversation thing. For me a formal education isn't even that important IF the person is interested in self-education, being aware of what's going on, etc. My partner is blue collar and didn't went to college. But I can have interesting conversations with him about politics, history, etc. simply because he's interested, reads and educates himself. Not even in a very deliberate way, he may stumble upon an interesting Wikipedia entry and can read about it for hours and we…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:12 PM
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That just simply doesn't work for either financial or work reasons. Partner and I decided against kids in the end but when we entertained the idea it was clear that although I make more money, I would have been the one who needs to stay home one year because he's self-employed. If he stopped working, his company simply would go under. If I stayed home for several years it wouldn't be financially feasible AND I would completely out of touch with my industry. I don't even have a "career" per sé, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:56 PM
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I don't think there are "men standards" and "women standards". Different people have different standards, that's all. There are men for whom income/lifestyle is important and women for whom it isn't. I remember a conversation with a dude for whom one of the reasons why it didn't work out with his ex was precisely because she made way less than him and he was tired of it. It's not that she felt entitled to his money. But e.g. in regards to vacations the choices were to either 1) go 50:50 but this…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:41 PM
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Oh I see. Idk, I have experience with different sizes. Too small is definitely unfortunate but from average onwards it seems to me it comes more down to how the man uses it, respectively his body/muscles. One of my worst experiences was with a guy with a big dick, horrible cramps afterwards, not worth it. He wasn't even particularly rough or anything, it was just too much for my insides. Best experience with my partner (average) and another guy (also average) because of how they use it. Idek the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:45 PM
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Maybe? Can you explain what you meant? I've read it as women deceive themselves by saying that they don't care about what people on Reddit think about them. My point was that I don't think this is true, I think most women/people truly don't care about what people on Reddit think about them. With other SM it might be different, e.g. people on Insta actually know who I am, but here? It doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:04 PM
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Then don't watch it? I assume you can also avoid movies like 365 Days or Fifty Shades of Grey on Netflix if you don't want to see sexual content, so what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:57 PM
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I have no knowledge about anime in all of its different forms but I would agree that if the issue is that this kind of anime is not suitable for children (I watched anime cartoons as a kid but they weren't sexualized, like Princess Sarah, etc) and they're currently available to children/parents are not aware of the sexual undertones, then a better rating is necessary. Besides that, Netflix has soft porn stuff like 365 days on it, so I don't see how those anime films would be viewed differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:54 PM
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Maybe non-anonymous SM but Reddit, though? It's an anonymous message board if you're not dumb enough to link your photo/SM accounts to your profile. I can't imagine caring about what strangers think about my views when I don't know them and they don't know me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:41 PM
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The issue is that there are many different versions and definitions (waves) of feminism that don't always agree with each other. For example the view that feminism = egalitarism is one view/definition that is not accepted by all feminists. I don't know if I agree with every little thing under feminism (how could you when there are now what, 4 waves? Plus niche stuff like feminism under a marxist view, etc) but logically second feminism definition/radical feminism is what makes most sense to me p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:21 PM
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What? So random people just get approached (how?) by matchmakers? That doesn't seem at all efficient. They don't know anything about you. How do they even find you? What are the criteria of approaching? Must be physical appearance because they literally don't know anything else about you. One more reason not to waste money for such a service.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:51 PM
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I'm more wondering about how those matchmakers are supporting to find suitable women for their male clients if they don't take on female clients. How is that supposed to work if you can't set up meetings?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:21 PM
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Eh Idk about that. I'm a woman. If I were single and not able to find a single guy that I would find suitable for a relationship, I would ask myself what I am doing wrong, either with my behavior/personality or my expectations. Desirable people with a pleasant personality fit for a relationship usually do not require the help of a matchmaker to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:17 PM

I think it comes down to financial anxiety/ personal risk assessment. Two incomes are more safe than one. I'm in a financial position where I could support myself and my partner if something happened to him/his job and I would be prepared to do that if necessary. But it's one thing to do what's necessary or to CHOOSE a more insecure setup from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 05:06 PM
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You don't need to write them into your profile, you can just filter automatically so only those who fall into your preferences will be shown to you, problem solved. As far as I know you can filter for age, height, etc. So just do that and only engage with people who fit your criteria. It's really not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:48 PM
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Because the social/cultural circumstances that made it easier for more men to get into relationships was literally the oppression of women. Look around in the world. Wherever women are oppressed, more men have access to them. So if you say you want to change the social circumstances so that more men can have access to women, think about how that sounds to women and what this implies and means for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:33 PM
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Nobody is going to get together with someone and fuck them for "the greater good". And no one has children "for the greater good". The people who say we should be doing that want kids anyway. I don't know a single person who despises kids and/or parenthood, would rather not do it at all, but sees it as their duty to their nation/humanity/god to produce children. It's not about needing something specific for happiness in the context of a romantic relationship. It's simply that if you're not with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:04 PM
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But then we get to issue of settling, something men also insist they don't want their potential partner to do. You also can't force yourself to be happy with someone you're lackluster about and you can't force yourself to NOT be lackluster about a person if that's just how you feel towards them. Who knows how actually happy people were in previous times? The spike in divorces once no fault divorces were allowed suggest that a lot of them were not in fact happy in their relationship. If now fewer…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:24 PM
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Oh thank you. I feel like that Simpsons meme about used to being "with it" every day a bit more. When I think about it, that meme is probably also already dated. I can't keep up with gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:46 PM
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I can agree with that culture, etc. has an influence but that doesn't change the fact that you can simply decide to find someone attractive who is simply not attractive. Like, if we started a worldwide smear campaign against people with green eyes today. We document everything and clearly state it's an (unethical) experiment to make as many people as possible not attracted to green eyes. Let's say we succeed and 500 years later green eyes are seen as an unattractive trait by a big enough minorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:43 PM
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I hate that, too. It's so clinical. When I started dating my partner I thought that he was funny, good looking, made me laugh and feel good and was a genuinely kind guy. When we were just dating, not officially together, but dating exclusively, he stepped up big time and helped my family out with his time and driving services (family member in a clinic two hours away, broken down car, just bad timing) so I discovered his kind nature early on which made me fall in love. All things I learned about…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:32 PM
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As a "modern woman" I usually insist on paying on the first date. I like how a lot of men get flustered and I have fun telling them "you can pay the next time ;)" But I also won't fight for too long if they really, really insist on paying. Usually I win anyways but if he really insists then I won't deny him. It's funny as I'm usually way more "submissive" for a lack of a better word when it comes to the man-woman-dynamic, but this is an instance where I just really enjoy being "dominant".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:15 PM
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I don't agree with "all women find the same 10% of men attractive and nobody else" trope but this is beside the point. No one "allows" themselves to be attracted or not attracted to someone. You can't force it. It's either there or it isn't. It's not about allowing or "law that says that women NEED to be attracted " to this man but not the next. It just is or it isn't. You can't guide your attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:03 PM
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Of course it's a possibility and I absolutely believe that there are such women. I personally just haven't encountered it irl, but I've encountered rapey men 🤷‍♀️ I'm just saying that it's not a stance that is widely supported or defended by the majority of women. Hence if something like this pops up it is also women who say "You feel disgusted because your bf cried when he confided in you about his SA trauma? You are the disgusting one. Get and stay away from him and don't date anyone until you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:58 PM
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Huh, I'm confused by the story in your link. Boys were allowed to wear skirts and that is enough for outrage? It's not like they're forced to, no? As a woman and former girl who went to school in Germany and never experienced school uniforms, I would have been so pissed if I was forced to wear skirts. I don't even have anything against school uniforms in itself but forcing girls into skirts if they don't want them due to sexism and enforced gender roles just makes my blood boil. So if that was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:52 PM
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Same. Never seen it in real life, just in reddit posts. And when such a story is posted to AITA or one of the relationship subs, the female OP gets eviscerated in the comments both by men and women. So I don't think such behavior is widely accepted and everyone agrees upon that you're an immature asshole if that applies to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:32 PM
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As a woman I agree. Funnily enough, I just read another PPD post about "the ick" and thought to myself that it's a stupid concept and probably just rage bait. Then I read that comment and immediately got "the ick" so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:28 PM
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Yeah, because it's all bullshit. There's no "masculinity" or "femininity" beyond maybe physical traits. There's your sex, and then there are characteristics and competences anyone of any sex can have or not. Trying to adhere to some ideals about what a proper man or a proper woman is makes everyone just miserable because nobody can win that. You can be a leader, timid, bold, anxious, brave, good at math, good at cooking, bad with finance or laundry, good at hanging a TV, nurturing, egoistical, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:16 PM
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Based on PPD it seems to me that American men and traditional Muslim men here in Western Europe have more in common than American men and Western European men. You guys seem way more conservative and prude than the average man here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 07:10 PM
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Absolutely. I also want your undeserved adoration on top. Get back to me when you reached that point 😘
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:35 PM
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K. I don't think I'm interested in debating with a "proud woman hater", casting pearls before swine and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 12:27 PM
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I don't think you grasp what I'm saying. I'm talking about different kinds/categories of harm. What you describe about romance novels still falls under the fantasy/real life category. This category with all kinds of possible different consequences is applicable to all media. Visual porn with real humans has an additional category of harm, that other media don't have and that's direct harm to humans in the content which is only possible by the creation of that specific content itself. Again, writ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:02 PM
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I have never read the books so I have no idea if the character was underage. If the actor was, it's definitely bad and comparable with porn because this is a real human being harmed. I agree about your point that all pornographic content can have negative consequences, I'm just saying that visual porn with real humans can have MORE negative consequences than other media. With amateur porn I think it's even more murky than professionally done porn. I assume the professional stuff has hopefully st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 10:42 PM
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The Twilight actor was a real person, even if the character in the novel was not, so that particular thing is more comparable to visual porn. It's not the book, it's the visual adaptation of the book that is the problem when it comes to harming actual humans. Romance novels CAN produce unrealistic expectations IF the consumer can't differentiate between fantasy and reality. Just as with porn. That's why I said that as long as you're able to consume fantasy content without causing negative real l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:43 PM
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Yeah, I understand that. I've heard that apparently women come more during sex with other women, so that could I guess speak to a skill issue? But for myself I just know that I need more pressure than body parts can provide, so I don't think that would change if I was with a woman. I mean, I would definitely try it with a very experienced lesbian, but as someone who is like 99% straight it's basically impossible to find a woman whom I actually find sexually attractive AND who is experienced AND …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:23 PM
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I'm not saying that women have a lower libido as men in general, I don't know that. I think it can be true over all men and all women. But what I mean is that women can't choose to "give someone" their libido because you can't choose if you get turned on by someone or not. Either the person makes you horny or not. Even with spontaneous libido, which I have experienced more in my 30s now, just because I'm spontaneously horny and would like to have sex, I wouldn't take the first available guy if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:15 PM
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You can't "choose" to "give your libido" to someone. Either you find them hot and their attractiveness and behavior towards you makes you horny or not. There's no choice in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:12 PM
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Eh, some of us are simply cursed with not very sensitive clits. I envy women who can come from oral. For me, a tongue was never able to provide the correct pressure. Being older now I'm sometimes able to achieve orgasm with my fingers if I'm really, really, really horny. But most of the time, no. I discovered this already as a teenager. I was horny but never understood masturbation. I've read and read and tried and tried and just became frustrated until I discovered the massage option of the sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:48 PM
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For me, from an ethical POV the difference is that one is a complete brain fantasy while the other one includes actual humans where you never REALLY know if there was dubious consent, revenge porn in amateur porn, health consequences, etc. All kinds of porn consumption (visual porn, audioporn, smut) can lead to an escalation of more and more crass content. I noticed that when I was younger and consumed more visual porn. You kind of get desensitized and need more extreme stuff for your kick. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:38 PM
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Not inn 99% of cases. I'm in relationship anyway, but I had experienced something like that only once. I was already with my partner anyways, so it was moot, but there was this one guy in our extended friend circle. Quite overweight, fat in the face made his eyes appear totally small. One of those man where in the first few seconds of meeting you go "not sexually interested". But man did he have an engaging personality and great sense of humor. He was legit funny and made everyone laugh tears. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:10 PM
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Idk dude usually an adult doesn't decide his relationships simply based on desire. I also don't know any adult man who has his shit together who decides to be in a serious relationship only based on desire. I mean even in this sub that's not the case. A dude may desire a 21 year single mom, he would fuck her but still not get into a relationship with her. I don't know anyone who dismisses any other requirements simply for desire. I would question someone's life competency if that's how they navi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:13 PM
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I'm sorry, but when I read "benevolent guidance" it's an automatic "ew" from me. I don't think that I'm in the minority by saying that my partner should be my equal. I don't want "guidance", we're navigating life together side by side instead of one leading the other. You're an adult now, so it is what it is, but I remember a documentary I once saw and reading your post reminded me of that. It was about one of those Mormon polygamy families, the dude was in his thirties when he took his first wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:02 PM
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I can believe that only based on physical features men find young women hot. Of course. But if we're talking about actual serious relationships I would find it quite concerning if that would be your only criterium. And if it's not then I wonder what exactly else besides hotness is it that you find so appealing about young women. For a ONS? I get it, go for it. No strings attached, no power plays, etc. For a serious relationship? Doesn't seem so harmless anymore. I've had this exact conversation …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:44 PM
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I agree with you, OP. I've read through some examples here and none of them convinced me that those potential issues are something that one can learn ONLY through romantic relationships. Maybe I'm biased because I'm still in my first real adult relationship. I've started dating my partner at 24 without extensive prior experience. But at the baseline I was a mature (enough) adult with enough life experience and examples to navigate a relationship successfully enough. This relationship is the long…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:19 PM
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For what it's worth, I'm a woman and I don't agree with it 🤷‍♀️ I think you can learn a lot from watching other relationships, e.g. your parents, and having your conclusions, both positives and negatives. I think if you're an adult you (should) have enough life experience that helps you navigate a romantic relationship even if it is your first. Of course there will always be adjustments, but that's because you're navigation communication with this specific person you're now dating and it's very …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:54 PM
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You're still not spilling it out. Let's assume all of that is true. When that happens and there will be a "response to move society back into another direction" - what exactly will that be and how will it look like? What would you want it to look like? The premise is still that women are not attracted to these men and don't want sexual or romantic relationships with them. Let's even assume the economy is fixed, people can buy houses again (which is a problem that isn't limited to men btw, the ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:52 PM
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Omfg then tell me exactly what you want to feel appreciated. Forget your moraline shaming here. What exactly is it that you want from women and how do you want to establish it without dismissing free will? Btw my partner has a blue collar job and he would never even think about tying that to romance or dating. It's a job he chose out of free will. You come across as if you want us to roll out the red carpet and drown you in pussy for doing the job you yourself chose to do. Let's go with your fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:42 AM
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First of all, more and more people remain childfree, even if they are in relationships. And your explanations don't change anything about what you have said in your first post. What exactly does "taking for granted" mean to you? I have a job. I work on clinical data, making sure that it follows health agencies requirements so that when the data gets submitted, useful drugs can get to the market faster and help people. So I'm one small piece in the chain of developing helpful drugs for sick peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 10:03 AM
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Wait, you can appreciate someone for the work they're doing without wanting to date them. Do you think oil riggers should get women as a reward for the work they do? How sick is that? Not rewarding someone with your body is not the same as taking someone for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:22 AM
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That's true and I personally don't have an issue with it. I have the same outlook. Over the years I'm now making more money than my partner and I have no issue paying for shit like vacations, etc. However, this kind of thinking as in the OP is not gender specific. A big gap in finances can just as much be a problem for men. One dude told me about his ex and that it became an issue in their relationship. He made significantly more than her. For the vacation example it meant either they need to va…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:04 AM
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Some input from a woman in an open relationship: For my partner and me sexual exclusivity isn't important, sex is not something holy but a fun activity and we enjoy the occasional novelty with different people. But we're not poly and not interested in actual romantic relationships with other people. We've been together for 12 years now. I have met and slept with men, who, on paper, are "better" than my partner. Like, fitter, make more money, own their own apartment/house, etc. But I have never r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:07 AM
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Yeah it seems that there are differences between the US and Europe. We have people from neighboring countries who come to Germany specifically for one or the other swinger party because we just have way more supply of that. The LGBTQ stuff is not standard for the average party. If there is such a party, it is precisely advertised as such. There definitely are those, but the base assumption is that you have hetero couples, and depending on the party single hetero women and men. There are Bi-parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:19 PM
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It's honestly just very fun. And in 99% of the cases I don't even have sex. I just like to be among like minded people, I like to flirt and to dance. As a woman who mostly goes out by herself (my partner isn't too interested, he went with me once and liked it okay enough but all in all isn't too interested) I feel way safer at a private swinger party than in a normal club. I can dance in underwear and won't be groped or otherwise harassed. The swinger clubs and organizers take that very seriousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:58 PM
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Eh, I did it 🤷‍♀️ not in the car, that's for teenagers. But I've had hotel dates when I was just in the mood for a bit of fun with a new body. Know enough women who did the same 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:55 PM
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I think it really depends on the party and the organizers. I'm from Germany, the unofficial kink/swinger capital of Europe. There definitely ARE swinger/kinky parties full of hot people. Some are very exlusive with gym bros and gals - and good for them! I've been to my fair share of kinky/swinger parties. I only attend private ones with a pre-selected guest list that I can see online. Some organizers are very good at picking hot guests. I don't attend parties for the 50/60+ crowds. The guests of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:48 PM
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If a potential sex partner would try to ask for sex without a condom that would be an immediate sign for me to not have sex with them in the first place. Even if they agree to wear a condom in the end - how many times with how many women did they not wear one? Condoms can break, it happened to me before. If it would happen with someone of whom I know they like to fuck around without condoms I would spiral. Condoms always and I get tested every few months. Luckily the men I've been with always br…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:19 PM
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I do you one better. Most of the time I pay on a first date. I love to see how flustered a lot of men get and I just smile and say "you can pay next time". Always works 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:14 PM
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Yeah I get that. I obviously can't speak for all women but when it comes to physical attraction the face is the most important thing for me. If I'm not attracted to the face then the best body will not help. If I'm attracted to the face and on top he has a great body then it's the cherry on top, but attraction to the face is non-negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:54 PM
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That is pseudo science and 'No true scotsman' thrown in on top. Please don't present your personal opinion as fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:00 PM
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Right, but they also want true desire from their partners and that's just not something you can reason yourself into. Even if all of that is true and an average woman simply only is attracted to above-average men: she can be very self-aware and thus go for men "in her league" and maybe even love such a man. But that wouldn't change the fact that she's simply not sexually attracted to him. You can't condition yourself to be horny towards a person. Either you are or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:15 PM
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Not that my opinion is worth anything, but that is a very nicely shaped body and you can be proud of it and the obvious work you've put into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:09 PM
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That sounds...exhausting. I consider myself to be left-leaning, more so economically as my core belief is that the one societal rift that is truly important is the one between the 1% and the 99%. Socially I would say when I was in my early 20s 15 years ago I was considered as someone on the left. With Internet culture as it is today I'm probably somewhere in the middle now, depending on the topic. I was very politically interested, hell, I studied it at University and have a Bachelor's degree in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 06:29 PM
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Eh, my parents have been married almost 40 years now and I grew up with a lot of love and no daddy or abandonment issues and I have the same view on sex. Have been in a loving relationship for over a decade and it's been an open one for a few years now. No changes for the relationship, no influence on my psyche, I'm still the same person I had been before I had more sexual experiences. I sometimes have the feeling that people give sex too much power/credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:44 PM
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That's how my partner and I got together as well. I never regarded sex as something holy or special but I didn't have that much experience before I met my partner in my mid twenties. Started out as fuckbuddies as he just ended a LTR mere days before we started going out and I didn't have a problem being his rebound as at that time I haven't had sex for about two years and didn't plan on staying in the area for long anyway. Turned out we fit well together and developed feelings and twelve years l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:36 PM
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My partner always jokes that he 'invested' in me because he paid for dates when we started going out as I was studying and money from my part-time job went to food and gas. Many years later I have a corporate job and just received the latest pay increase, putting me over 100k€ a year base pay. The way that he benefits from it is that I take care of our day-to-day expenses. Being self-employed he's facing difficulties, he's working hard and I want him to focus completely on that so I took over pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:49 AM
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There are still more submissive men than women who actually want a submissive man and are dominant themselves. Men tend to be more dominant than women. Among men there are also more dominant men than submissive men. Among women there are WAY more women who are submissive than dominant. And between men and women there are still way more men who are submissive than women who are dominant. Just look at romance novels and smut literature, predominantly read by women, so they dictate the market. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:14 PM
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Holy armchair psychoanalysis. Is it really that hard to accept that some people, including women, simply enjoy casual sex, have no psychological/daddy issues and simply don't have moral hangups about it? Idk if y'all Americans and more prude by default due to your socialization or what is going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 09:23 AM
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No, a negative character trait doesn't automatically mean that it will affect others negatively. Because there are thoughts and then there are actions. If you can act in a non-discriminatory way despite your beliefs then I don't care about your beliefs. It's just that people in general are shit at not letting their beliefs influence their actions. E.g. if you're a racist but you never actually act like it, does it really matter? If you hate women, but still treat them right and never let them kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:17 PM
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I think it depends on what "engaging with the Manosphere" even means. My personal opinion is live and let live. I don't really care about the private thoughts of someone ad long as those thoughts then don't have real-life negative consequences for other people. So for example, if a man hates women - hate away in private but behave in a way that your hatred doesn't have negative consequences for me, so: don't let your hatred guide your actions. If a man hates women but doesn't discriminate agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:42 PM
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It's just my personal opinion. You asked what they prioritize and I say if they're smart, then themselves. If not, they choose either one or the other and will get flack for it from men either way. That's the whole reason why they shouldn't pick in the first place but walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:24 PM
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I should have said "smart women prioritize themselves and stay single". In any case, PPD is annoyed with women no matter which one they choose. Either they pick a good man they aren't attracted to - PPD complains women are settling and force men into a dead bedroom. Or they pick an attractive man who is an asshole - PPD mocks them and tells them to "choose better". So yeah, better go with staying single if one can't have the full package.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:12 PM
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Counterpoint: being vulnerable and open actually helps communication and making the relationship stronger and reduces worries. I have one of those stoic men. There were a few instances of the emotions being too much even for him, mostly deaths of family members, friends or beloved pets. And of course I've always been there for him and tried to be his emotional support as much as he lets me. But there's an entire universe within him that's hard to discover. Sometimes I think he can't find the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 08:08 PM
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They prioritize themselves and stay single. I mean, both not being attracted to your partner and your partner being a shitty human will lead to an unsatisfying relationship, just for other reasons. I assume that men don't want a dead bedroom but they also want monogamy (at least most of them) so feeling sexual attraction is kind of necessary for that. On the other hand if your partner is attractive but treats you like shit it will lead to resentment and eventual collapse of the relationship. So …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:46 PM
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Take it or leave it. I'm telling you what young women feel. The question is: why do older dudes insist on still hitting on young women when they're told left and right and by young women themselves that they don't want that? Like what is going on in their head? Why do they WANT to make young women uncomfortable? Older women are telling about their experiences when they were younger, young women now tell very clearly that they don't want to be hit on by older men. The overwhelming majority of all…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 12:04 PM
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As a young woman there's simply an ick factor. When it happened to us we never found them attractive. Their age automatically made them unattractive. And you simply felt that you're not on the same footing. There's more fear than with guys who are the same age. You can relativize and rationalize it away as much as you want but that's just what goes through the mind of a young woman. I felt more comfortable telling a guy off who is the same age, older men were intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:46 AM
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Personally I make a distinction between sex and pursuing something serious. But tbh, as someone in my mid thirties I look at 18 year olds and see kids. And if you then see that someone might lust after somebody you view as a kid, there simply will be disgust. If she's idk 23 years old has a ONS with a 30 year old, do I think there would be much harm in it? If it's clear from both sides that it's just sex and a one time thing then no. If he were to pursue her, pull her out of university, got her …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:16 AM
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How is that hypocritical? My parents taught me, if possible, learn from the mistakes of others instead of doing them yourself. These women made those mistakes, got burned badly and now try to prevent others from making the same mistake. If you were e.g. addicted to pills for years, almost had your life ruined by them, wouldn't you advise your younger brother or nephew to not play around with them? Would it make you a hypocrite to speak about your experiences and warn others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:36 AM
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It's honestly fascinating. How can you read something and translate it to something completely different in your head? I'm a Millenial woman. I have young nieces in their twenties. I've been a young woman and experienced what it's like to be pestered by dudes that one perceives as old at that age. I feel protective towards young women, not jealous. They are wonderful, spirited, beautiful and I don't want to see them crushed. Luckily in my family my young nieces found partners their own age. I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:26 AM
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Huh? In a previous comment you said that in all families you know parents contribute equally. I said I grew up differently and hope Gen Z does better with 50:50, something you said already is the case. And now you're saying you hope that something you claimed to be already the case won't happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:07 PM
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Sorry, I don't understand. You hope that what exactly never happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:04 PM
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🙋‍♀️ here. Grew up in the 90s, my mother was basically a single mom. Dad worked different shifts and needed his sleep when he was at home. He was there, but more as an authority figure, not really involved in day-to-day child rearing. I don't think that he changed a single diaper of his own kids. And my family wasn't an anomaly in that regard. I grew up in the West but my parents are from the Soviet Union. Of course there were men who were more involved in at least household chores, when not wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:30 PM

Still am in one. He's biased, of course, love does that to people :) But I don't go out with guys I don't find attractive in the first place, what would be the point in that? But yeah, my partner is a hottie and can still pull women as he's also very charismatic and funny. He just has this easy going aura. He has always been this way. As a kid he was one of those who was a cheeky troublemaker at school but got away with it because teachers just couldn't stay mad with him. I told him I would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:14 PM

I think you underestimate the power of a pretty (enough) face anda nice demeanor. Since my highest weight I've lost about 20 kg (44 lbs accordingto Google converter). Still 5-10 kg (11-22 lbs) to go by BMI standards to be in the normal range. I've not had any issues attracting fit men when I was heavier and I don't have issues now. I was blessed with big, round blue eyes, a straight nose and lips that are neither too thin nor too thick. Obviously there will always be women who are even prettier …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:50 PM
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Yeah and once a man with a healthy ego experiences the perks, he won't have an issue with it anyways. My partner always jokes that I'm his investment because in the beginning he would pay for outings as I was going to school and my part-time job just covered gas and food. Years later and I found myself in a high paying position, part of it was my skills, part of it was luck. I don't take it too serious tbh. It helps us not having to panic about expenses and that's all that I need. We usually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 11:43 AM
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I guess it depends whom you ask. It would probably be a waste of time if he wanted to seduce a feminist. And in regards to seduction, there isn't one way. Deliberate touches, sexy smiles, flirting/banter is always a good idea with me personally. Read some romance novels. There aren't hotter guys than those that are written by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:21 PM
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Rapey means disregarding a No and doing things the other person doesn't want. So in that regard I would probably say a combination of my mood (am I even interested in anything sexual?) and his seduction skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 09:55 PM
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For me it's a combination. Being physically attracted to the man is a necessity but not sufficient. Physical attraction + mental stimulation = arousal. Just looking at a handsome man without sexual fantasies about how he would behave towards me in a sexual context would be like looking at a pretty picture, yes. On the other hand, picturing a man I don't find physically attractive behaving sexually towards me is repulsive. So it's definitely both. Individually on their own they're not enough for …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:00 AM
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Yeah I agree. In my experience sexual attraction starts with physical features. That being said, at least for me personally, just the physical features alone are not enough for actual desire/getting wet. I've just read a comment from a woman here that she thinks of individual male body parts during masturbation and that's a completely alien concept for me. In that I agree with OP that a big part of my sexual arousal comes from what the man is doing, how he's behaving towards me, how he acts base…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:54 AM
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Nah it's not, just by scrolling through random reels of pages I'm not following I still get reels shown that people in my friends list liked. I didn't even set anything up in the settings, those reels just pop up by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:03 PM
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She wants you to see her likes and do something about it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:59 PM
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Huh? Slaves for whom? Most of us are not independently rich and have to work to survive. Whether you're feeding only yourself or in addition a wife and kids, your situation is the same in that regard. Therefore, if you're a slave without a wife and kids you're also a slave with wife and kids. Your economic situation of having to work for a living is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:39 PM
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Idk about problematic but I don't think that an actual submissive man can pull that off. I think it would be frustrating for both people and such a man would be better suited for femdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Although men tend to be more dominant and women tend to be more submissive, men seem to be more varied in their sexual fantasies regarding dominance and submission because there are more men with submissive tendencies than women with dominant tendencies. I'm on a erotic dating website and I see the same. Although both dominant women and submissive men are both more rare than submissive women and dominant men, there are still more men who want to be domi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:22 AM
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I don't see anything problematic about it. If there's no problem for women having that fantasy as the victim then there's no problem for men having this fantasy as the perpetrator. I fully believe that we as humans are very capable of differentiating fantasy from reality and right from wrong. And in any case, women who are interested in fulfilling such a fantasy in a CNC scene need willing players. I'd rather have a man play with me who shares the fantasy than someone who is turned off by it and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:06 AM
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I'm sorry this happened to you, that is absolutely horrible. A good planned CNC scene can be a very enjoyable experience for both parties if there's trust. I've had it once with a fwb who conveniently is an actor, so the role play was top notch, and I still remember it fondly. So it's really off-putting if someone uses that against a former partner. It's horrible to abuse someone's trust like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:00 AM
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Agree with that answer. I always found that question so weird. Different people like and prioritize different things and accept flaws that others wouldn't. I'm not a homemaker for example. I don't have an eye for making an apartment "homely", I'm a pretty shitty cook (I did learn to make my bf's favorite dish, though) and I hate household chores. I'm pretty sure I would be a nightmare for a traditional man. My partner though is very happy with me for twelve years now. I'm not irrational, I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 07:15 PM
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Eh maybe. I never thought it was a good idea to rely on a man for money. I make my own and I make more than my partner. I'd rather help him out during tough times than the other way around. I was raised to never have to rely on a SO and I took that to heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:44 AM
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Depends on the person. One was for example basically a Nazi with a drinking and cheating problem. He never had issues attracting women as he's good looking and is currently married. When I met him I wasn't single anyway but I thought "Oh wow, he looks great". But once I learned about him and interacted more with him (wider circle of friends/acquaintences) his personality just made him very unappealing and kind of disgusting tbh. Even if we both were single and he would have been interested (whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:29 PM
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No. I was 24 when I got together with my partner without actual relationship experience. Granted, I wasn't completely inexperienced, I wasn't a virgin and had a "relationship" as a teen (sommer love from another country, can't really take that serious) but I had no experience whatsoever about serious, adult relationships while my partner just got out of a relationship of several years. Twelve years later he's still keeping me around so I think I'm not doing too bad for someone in their first ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:11 PM
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Yeah I said looks or weird personality. Or simply very undesirable character traits. I've met guys who were good looking but were so off putting that any initial interest quickly evaporated. What I meant was that usually there's a valid reason for the lack of experience. For me lack of experience in itself isn't bad or a red flag. But I personally haven't encountered a man with no sexual/romantic experience at all and wondered how that could be. There's a reason why no other woman wanted him and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:04 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. But I personally also don't see a lack of experience as a red flag per se, other women might disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:46 PM
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I mean, every reason is acceptable. Personally I haven't encountered such a man but that doesn't mean they don't exist. But usually they would still have women interested in them even if didn't realize and acted on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:33 PM
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What do you mean what about such a man? Personally I have not encountered such phenomenon. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I haven't seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:09 PM
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Yes I would. As long as attraction is there plus of course a compatible personality, values, etc. I don't really care about experience or the lack thereof. Everyone can learn and although I have experience I don't see myself as a sex goddess or something like that. I'm sure there's still a lot that I can learn myself. And as for relationship experience - I'm still in my first real, adult relationship. Met my partner at 24, still together 12 years later. He had relationship experience, I didn't, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:29 PM
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I personally don't know how one can develop sexual attraction without looks. I can be attracted to the personality of someone but that is not sexual attraction. Of course even for sexual attraction is not the only necessary thing. You need to be able to flirt, to seduce, to paint a picture in my mind of what you're going to do to me. If that's not there then looking at you is like looking at a pretty picture - It's nice, but that doesn't mean that I want to fuck it. So Idk how for some people lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:40 AM
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Looks are important for being sexually attracted to someone, at least for me. I wouldn't say it's the most important thing, it's just the FIRST thing, because it's the first thing you notice. If a guy has a very shitty personality, I wouldn't want to be with him no matter how he looked like. Maybe other women are more forgiving, Idk. For me it has always been a combination of looks and personality, and I think that's kind of logic, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:24 AM
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First, yes, foremost? Don't know. When you first meet someone, the first thing you see is looks. If you're already not attracted from the get go, it will rarely change in the future. I had this happen exactly once, when I wasn't attracted at all to a guy and became attracted to him with more exposure and because he was so super funny and charming. Physical attraction is necessary but not enough. A good looking guy can still repel a woman if he has a shitty personality. I once met a guy who was g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:21 AM
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Usually older guys with no sexual or relationship experience are simply not attractive or have some weird personality traits. In general I wouldn't really care if a guy didn't have experience if I genuinely found him attractive and desired him. The rest can be learned. The trouble is that most of those kind of guys are just not attractive to women. Do you know a Henry Cavill lookalike who doesn't have any experience with women? I don't. Of course that's an extreme example but I think you get wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 05:52 AM
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As a woman who enjoys casual sex - that's just not true in a generalization. Are there egoistical men who don't care about about a woman's pleasure? Sure. Are they the majority? Not in my experience. So far I've encountered exactly one guy who really didn't give a fuck and who was done in about 3 minutes. It was so bizarre that I just had to laugh. Usually even with casual encounters men very much care about the woman's pleasure - not least because usually they would like to repeat the encounter…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:34 PM
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According to trp a woman with a higher bodycount is in general a worse partner for whatever reason. If it's not cheating it's something else 🤷‍♀️ I'm just saying that nothing about me changed. Even if we were to close up again, I wouldn't have any issues being sexually exclusive again as the first decade of our relationship but according to trp my partner now can't trust me anymore about anything just because I now slept with a few more people 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:58 PM
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Agree with you regarding body count. And I have the proof of it within myself. I had a low count when I got together with my partner. Were monogamous for almost a decade, opened up the relationship and my count grew. It changed nothing about my personality and my characteristics that my partner loves about me and why he wants to be with me. When we got together he was significantly more sexually experienced and also grew his count since we've opened up. The only thing that changed is that our co…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:23 AM

They shouldn't. Bald dudes are hot (of course depends on the head shape). Obviously the most important physical trait is the face, hair/no hair or body shape is irrelevant if your face is simply ugly. But if you have a fine face, then being a bald fit dude is not less hot than a fit dude with hair in my book. In any case being bald as a man is way more preferable in my opinion than being a man with long hair. Long hair on a man instantly makes him less attractive, no matter if he has a pretty fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:51 PM

I'm on a dating website that has forums/groups with specific themes that people with an account can join to specifically meet people with the same interest. One such a group is for muscular men and chubby/fat women to find each other. It is full of gym bros. They don't have to join that group, there are other groups where they can meet fit gym bunnies. To me it's obvious that there are quite a few fit and muscular guys who simply like heavier women 🤷‍♀️ and those heavier women like them back. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:46 PM
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Personally, as I don't want kids and make enough money myself, I don't really care. However, looking for financial stability doesn't mean that someone forgoes the "spark". They may limit their dating pool, yes, but that doesn't mean that among the suitable candidates they don't go for the one whom they find attractive and with whom the sparks fly. Why is the assumptions that it's an "either/or" situation instead of an "and" situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:15 PM
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Depends on his views on it now. I don't view sex as "something special only to be had in a committed relationship", so I don't care about that aspect. But I have very harsh views on prostitution. I think that the truly free, willing, self-determining and without desperate need for money escorts are a very small minority. Time and time again former prostitutes who talk about their experiences say that the overwhelming majority do not want to do this job. I personally will never want to have sex w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 07:48 PM
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Lol no, Germany. Also had great dates with men in Italy and have some repeating fuckbuddies whenever I fly down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:23 PM
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You seem to have a conversation with an imaginary woman, why are you making assumptions? Again, I'm asking you what is the solution if you happen to be single at a later point in time? You get married in your twenties, fine, something happens, you're a widower or divorced at 47 and now you're single again. Is it over for you now? Should you be alone and miserable until you die because you're not as hot and fit anymore as you were in your twenties? Like, be blunt. Should everyone be damned to a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:09 PM
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I'm not looking for something serious as I'm in a happy open relationship, so I couldn't tell you. Maybe I would have trouble dating seriously, maybe not. I've got seriously paired up in my twenties and if my partner doesn't drop dead tomorrow (God forbid) then I won't know what it's like to date being single for a long time. With a few of regular fwb I definitely got the vibe that they would be interested in something more serious, but they're very good at respecting boundaries and don't bring …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:20 PM
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Lol sorry, but men do NOT age better than a woman. Okay, so you're saying that e.g. a man in his 50s who either lost his wife or divorced here and then found love again with a woman who is also in her 50s, this man is lonely (I mean, I guess, there's a reason he wants another relationship), desperate or delusional? Like, what is your view/solution? Everyone should pair up in their twenties and pray that that's it for you until you're both very near your death bed because everything else is just …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:13 PM
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Agree with that. I'm currently losing weight but even at my biggest I never had issues attracting men that I also found attractive. Most of them were fitter than me. I have a nice face and I'm pleasant and engaged on dates and a lot of men have no problems with belly fat if it comes with big boobs and a round ass (which is the one thing I'm missing now with the weight loss). In my personal experience when it comes to optics, men were more concerned about being attracted to the face than if she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:06 PM
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Agreed. When it comes to optics, face is the number one thing. Don't get me wrong, I like a nicely formed torso as much as the next hetero woman, but if the face isn't attractive to me? The best shaped body will not help. It goes like this: good face and body > good face and average body > good face and bad body/average face and good body > average face and average body > average face and bad body > bad face and good body > bad face and average body > bad face and bad body In most cases the face…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:58 PM
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Eeeh idk if you can speak for all muscular men. I'm currently on a weightloss journey but even when I was at my fullest, there were still enough muscle/gym guys who were interested in me because they liked more meat. Granted, I've been comparatively moderately overweight, I guess, never over 100kg, and my proportions were still...shapely? But yeah, a lot of fit, muscular guys liked the round ass, bigger thighs and tits that come with a bigger weight. The dating website I use even has a specific …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:51 PM
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I'm not married and we're too lazy to get the whole paperwork done, but if I can think about an advantage it would be stuff like inheritance, being able to decide medical stuff, deciding on big shared purchases like a house would be better to do in a marriage. Of course there are other ways around it, a will, getting other documentation, etc. I also thought about doing that instead but I think it would be even more paperwork lol. We don't have shared finances except for shared bills like rent, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:12 PM
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You can be anti-hedonistic as much as you want but honestly, if my partner just stayed with me out of duty of all things, I would feel absolutely horrible. I'm very much a "we will work on it" person. And so far it is working. We both try to always have a "separation is not an option, so what can we do?" attitude. But if NOTHING else except duty would keep my partner from leaving me? Yeah, no. I couldn't bear it. And I'm saying that as someone who values actions over feelings, but if duty is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:00 PM
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I don't get this kind of thinking. If I meet someone in my 30s and fall in love, I simply haven't met them before, that's all that there is to it. I met my partner in my mid 20s, we're still together over then years later. If for whatever reason I would end up single again and meet someone else: what am I supposed to do with the fact that I simply met someone else before him and have fallen in love with someone else? That's just life. If I met the guy earlier, then maybe I would have been in a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:26 PM
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I'm no expert but as far as I having some narcissistic traits is not the same as actually having a disorder and being a "legit" narcissist, no? I think way more people in the general population can display narcissistic traits without being actual narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:43 AM
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To your first example: I think it's understandable to have a fantasy of your "perfect" person. You just need to realize that it's just that, a fantasy. Take romance novels, I love them, but it's absolutely clear that the men in those novels are fantasies. Someone with characteristics X will treat you according to X and not Y. If you want to be treated Y you need to find someone who has characteristics Y. That's just the reality of things. I mean, I love reverse harem stories where the men are do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:35 AM
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That gives me abuser vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:25 AM
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That is something I don't get. Maybe if I were in my 60s with a very low libido and not that interested in sex and were searching for a man who feels the same. Then it could be something negligible. But as long as I am interested in fucking I would only want to be with someone I actually want to fuck. That doesn't automatically mean that I would only be interested in conventionally attractive guys, I often enough found guys attractive where others have asked me "Him? Really?" but I still need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:24 AM
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Thanks, I'm here all night.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:50 PM
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Sure, I was more thinking about a global humankind decision in that scenario, not in terms of countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:22 PM
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My partner is a mechanic while I work a corporate job in the pharmaceutical industry. Does that count? It's not important what you do but how you do it, your attitude, etc. My partner did his normal three year apprenticeship and then continued schooling while working to have Master's equivalent degree in order to be able to lead his own small repair shop (I don't know how it works in the US but those are the rules in my country). He works long hours and with every year keeping small independent …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:07 PM
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I think for most people it's definitely an "attractiveness +" thing. If someone puts up with constant bad behaviour without improvement I can't help them. But yes, a base attractiveness is required. I would say attractiveness is required but it's not sufficient. On the other hand, personality and behavior is also required but not sufficient. So I can't put one above the other because if only one thing is available it will never be sufficient. If you're completely unattractive/off putting to some…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:36 PM
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Dating success or "eliciting horniness by looks alone"? Because to me that's not the same. As a spokeswoman for all women (not) I would say there are a few men (about 10% maybe) that I look at without knowing their personality or behavior and would say "Smash". (But keep in mind here, that there's still some kind of fantasy about their personality/behaviour involved. I claim that there's no woman who gets wet by JUST looking at a photo of a hot guy. In our fantasy it's still his interaction with…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:49 PM
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Even if we assume that happiness is guaranteed then it still remains that a) you will still suffer b) there is no guarantee that your happiness outweighs your suffering c) by not existing in the first place you avoid suffering and don't miss out on anything because you can't miss anything if you don't exist. To me it seems that non-existence still trumps existence. I would categorize my life as happy (so far). So far happiness outweighs suffering. If that continues until I die (another thing: cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 06:12 PM
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Oh, for me that's purely objective. I'm not a depressed emo. I think I actually got very lucky in life compared to a big percentage of humanity. I don't have severe childhood trauma, never experienced sexual violence, I am loved by family, friends and a romantic partner and I have a stable and well paying job so that I don't have any financial worries. By most standards I got very, very lucky. "Life is pain" for me is just a simple fact of life because there simply doesn't exist any life without…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:45 PM
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Only if their opinions and feelings would lead to actions that make others suffer. I'm very much an "actions over feelings" person. As a woman, you can e.g. be a misogynist as long as this doesn't lead to actual negative consequences for me/women. If you contain everything in your head and don't treat me badly or discriminate against me, what do I care about what you actually think? The problem is that most people cannot separate their feelings from their actions. So, if your redpill beliefs hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:37 PM
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There is no human existence without suffering in the first place, so it's a moot point. If anything, we are sparing potential humans from guaranteed suffering by not creating them. And yeah, there would definitely be suffering, that doesn't mean that we have to indefinitely continue to invest into this ponzi scheme called life. We could also decide to make a cut and to ride it out. A few last generations suffer and then none anymore ever instead of subjecting more and more generations to sufferi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:23 PM
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No, the moral thing to do is not to have children. Someone who doesn't exist cannot suffer and also cannot miss happiness. It's a win-win. That's the thing, you don't HAVE to submit your children to the nature of life if you don't create them in the first place. You have several scenarios: 1) you are not created. If you would have been created you would have suffered more than you would have been happy. You are spared. ➡️ 1 point for not existing 2) you are not created. If you would have been cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:16 PM
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Everyone has some kind of mental health issue. Hell, seasonal depression is a mental health issue. It's part of human nature. Some have more problems than others and most people are somewhat resilient. But if you never had any kind of mental health issues ever in your entire life you're either a lizard person or a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:51 PM
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Okay, but maybe AF/BB is also just what people accuse women of doing while they see that they did the same as OP? So, dating around, having fun, and then meeting someone they click with and settling down once they want something serious. Why create this whole AF/BB saga for women as an interpretation of the same behavior, but not for men? As you can't look into someone's head, you don't know OP's motives with his current wife anymore than you know the motives of a woman who acted as OP. But it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:38 PM
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Just because you decide to give them a happy life doesn't mean that they actually will be happy. As I said, you can't guarantee happiness. And obviously only the individual can decide if their happiness outweighs their suffering in life. And that's the thing, you can't guarantee that your offspring will be more happy and enjoying life than suffer. You don't know that. But you DO know that they will definitely suffer in some capacity. It's inevitable. You definitely impose suffering by creating l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:26 PM
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As long as we're not literally killing each other but going extinct by choosing not to reproduce anymore, I don't see an issue with it. I think we do need to care for the people who are alive but of no more people are produced, then that's okay. I don't think that this will ever happen, but if we assume it will, then one day the last human will take his/her last breath and the world will continue without us. A lot of species went extinct and the world continued to exist, it would be the same wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:21 PM
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Non-existing humans won't miss happiness because they don't exist. I look at it this way: there is not one human life in existence, in the past or the present, that didn't experience some kind of suffering. Some have it harder than others but there's not one human who has never or will never experience some kind of suffering throughout life. This is a given. Creating a human absolutely means that you're imposing suffering on them. Now, there's also happiness. But happiness is not guaranteed in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 04:11 PM
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If someone is already born, it's natural that most humans have the drive for self-preservation. That's different than deciding to not create new people in the first place. You can't "apply this line of thinking to yourself" if you've never existed to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:56 PM
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This seems very culture/location specific to me. Here in Germany it's totally normal to be in a LTR with or without kids and not married. No one interprets it as a lack of respect or commitment. You're together, your lives are intertwined, you're committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:45 PM
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Anyone who isn't economically independent shouldn't have kids in the first place, no matter if they're married or not. If anything, a woman should ALWAYS strive for financial independence, that should be non-negotiable and a life goal for every woman. Marriage is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:38 PM
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In my opinion it is normal, if you're a sexual being, to want to be attracted to the person you spend your life with. I always wonder how you're supposed to train yourself to want to have sex with someone you're not attracted to. Men want to be desired in a relationship and not "betabuxx" - absolutely a fair standard to have. But simultaneously lament the fact that they can't attract women with their looks. If we accept the premise that men find a larger % of women sexually attractive than the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:35 PM

I'm not sure about that. Every woman I know who is using online dating knows and acknowledges that it is easier for us, at least in regards to quantity. More men are on dating apps than women. I pay for a premium account on a dating website. One of the reasons is that if I want to be a bit more proactive, I can just go through the list of men who liked my profile and contact them. I already know that they're interested. If I receive a message from someone I'm not interested in, I send a polite r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:02 AM

I agree with you. What's bizarre to me is that my real life experience is nothing what I see on PPD. The men don't spew hatred and come up with those ridiculous takes as I see her. And women are not those monsters they are portrayed as here. In my relationships I take accountability, when I do something wrong, I apologize. When women ask me for advice when they're fighting with their partners and I think they're in the wrong, I tell them so. I don't encounter this "woman good, man bad" narrative…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:38 AM
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Eh, for me it entirely depends on the kind of woman. The same with male friends. I never really thought about the gender of friends. It's just not a good baseline, it's too vague and doesn't provide enough data points to really gauge someone's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 07:51 AM
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🙄 and once again a man on PPD tells me knows better than I when it comes to my own experiences. I seem to be on a roll today. What is it with you guys here that you're not even able to simply entertain the idea that over people think, feel and experience the world differently than you? No wonder discussions here a fruitless when you immediately accuse others of lying just because they don't think exactly like you. How can a person reach adulthood and still think "If I can't relate then it can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:12 PM
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Interesting. I can't say that my own experience is the same regarding sex. With anger or violence I don't really have that much experience. I can get pissed off occasionally but I never had anger issues or rage fits, so I wouldn't know what that would do to my brain. I do have experience though with sex and can't say that it had a massive influence. I love my partner for a million different reasons that would still be there if sex wasn't. On the other hand, since we've opened up the relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:39 PM
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To me it doesn't make sense. I don't meet men I am not attracted to in the first place. If I don't sleep with him because of him it would only be because I didn't like his personality or for whatever reason there wasn't chemistry. But then I'm also not meeting him again. I also generally reject the notion that changed behavior needs to have anything to do with the guy in question. I don't have anything against casual sex for example. I tested around and had specific sex dates, met, talked a bit …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:39 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking of pedophiles as well. Well, I guess everyone whose sexuality or sexual proclivities automatically means harm to other beings. Pedophilia, zoophilia. With rape it's a bit more complicated I guess. There is CNC and a lot of people engage in it in a safe way. There is the fantasy but they only want to play it out with consenting adults and have no desire whatsoever to actually rape someone. But then there are probably also people who do actually want to rape someone but are ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:31 PM
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Idk, I guess it's possible that people use dating apps to get victims. The scenario I had in mind is about people who now that they have a deviant sexuality but are trying not to give in because they don't actually want to cause someone harm on a conscious/logical level. They could see a sex robot as a solution to satisfy their urges without creating sentient victims. Which in theory could work. I just think that there's also the possibility that giving in to those urges with a sex doll will ope…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:20 PM
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I love it when a man explains to me my own mind and body. I'm living more than 30 years with myself, but yes, you, internet stranger, definitely know me better than I know myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:07 PM
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Is your reading comprehension lacking? Nowhere did I say that a sex robot will be a general slippery slope for all men who use them. Of course men with a normal sexuality will just have normal sex with them. I'm talking about men (or women) who already have a deviant, unnatural sexuality. Who are pedophiles, zoophiles or who want to rape. I said I see the possibility (a hypothesis) that for those people the usage of a sex robot could remove the barrier to causing harm to actual humans. It could …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:38 PM
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What...? I am speaking about sexual violence and pedophilia and for you that's "men's expression of their sexuality"? I'm pretty sure most men would disagree with you here. I'm pretty sure that most people (including men) condemn sexual violence, rape and fucking children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:28 PM
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I just don't think it's true. And I don't think they cause it, just ad video games don't cause anything. They can be something negative for somebody who already has those kind of proclivities. Normal dudes can fuck a robot and continue to be normal, they can play a violent game and be normal. People with tendencies will react differently to stuff that's basically drugs to their brains. And not everyone who has unnatural and dangerous proclivities absolutely will become a predator. There are many…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:09 PM
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I'm not saying that a sex robot will cause anything. I'm saying I see the potential for people who already have specific proclivities to act them out with robots and not being satisfied anymore by it. Obviously we don't know if that will happen, I just think it's a possibility. In my opinion it's one thing if you suppress sick desires (pedophilia, zoophilia, rape/sexual violence) because you logically know they are wrong and so you force yourself to distract yourself with other things. With sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:02 PM
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Completely agree with you. I see possible positive outcomes and possible negative outcomes. It will probably be a mixture of both, as with all things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:52 PM
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I don't think vibrators are the same as sex robots. I've read Droid smut, my vibrator is nothing against that. I think everyone can consider whatever as deranged shit but what I meant was stuff like pedophilia, rape (not to be confused with CNC), violence, etc. If someone is into that and a sex robot prevents them from searching for human victims then that's great. If they were able to surpress it before but living out the fantasy with a sex robot unleashes them and makes them a danger for other…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 03:56 PM
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It's called JoyClub, I think it's the biggest erotic website in Germany. It's more than just dating. You can find information about sexual health, educational articles and videos. You can find seinger clubs and parties and register for them to get onto the guest list. You can create single or couple's profiles, you can post dates, etc. That's a site where I actually don't mind paying to have my premium account. And that way I even get a discount of the entry fees at parties, so that is nice. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:57 PM
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I don't know, but it definitely could be. I like to pay on first dates because it's often a novelty for men as they're used to separate bills or to pay themselves. It's quite cute when they get flustered but feel flattered. But I also don't insist on paying if a man absolutely wants to. I think this also depends a bit on culture as Germany is not mono-cultural. But in general Germany is probably more egalitarian than the US and also not so extreme in general. Between red pill dudes and 🥺princess…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:52 PM
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There are vibrators that just have a wide area that vibrates, some women prefer that than more pointy shapes. Not all vibrators are for inserting and vibration along the shaft or on balls feels good for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:03 PM
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I don't really care about robots, I would even try one if they made male ones, but they would need to not look that creepy and the AI must be so good that I think they're almost human like. So I doubt I will ever experience it. That being said, what does concern me is if people use them for deranged shit and at some point it's not enough anymore. If you have unhealthy urges and a robot actually helps you to not become a predator then go for it. I'm just afraid that it could just as much backfire…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:52 PM
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I guess it helps that Germany is apparently the world's headquarter of kink and sex clubs and that in general people are less conservative than in the US. There are a lot of people who are either completely in this world or who are at least interested. Some don't visit parties but have a couple's profile and search for women and/or men for private threesomes, etc. Before I got to know this subculture, I only had this online based and probably American influenced prejudice that poly/kinky/alterna…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:39 PM
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I can't speak for most women but for me it is a non-issue, yes. I'm in a LTR, which is open, and as long as none of suddenly dies I don't see myself be single again in the near future. I date around casually and entertain FwB and I only use a very specific, sex-positive/kinky website in my country to meet new people. As there are millions of profiles, there's no shortage of sex-positive, no shamey guys. If I would end up single for whatever reason and if I was interested in a new relationship (I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:26 AM
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I never associated enjoying pegging with being a "soft spoken mild mannered" man. I think secretly way more men are into anal play than the number of men who admit it without feeling shame. I'm currently in contact with a guy who loves it and when you look at him you wouldn't peg him as such (sorry for the pun, couldn't help myself). Doesn't appear submissive, confident, good looking, no issues attracting women. Just likes the sensation of anal play. Personally I think men who haven't tried it y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:10 AM
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I just want to say that your assumption about "if a woman had sex with her ex immediately and not with me means she's not as in to me as she was into her ex" is faulty. Why isn't her own body and mind never taken into account? I had sex on first dates and I didn't have sex on first dates. Rarely had that anything to do with the guy itself, respectively my attraction to him, because I don't go on dates with men I'm not attracted to. There's something like a cycle, hormones, mental health. The SAM…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:02 AM
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Personality is important but not as a compensation for a missing physical attraction. I obviously don't speak for all women but I would say physical attraction is necessary but not sufficient. It's an "and", not an "either or". A shitty personality can kill attraction that has been build based on physical appearance but if not even base attraction is available, the best personality won't make someone sexually interested. If base attraction is available, then a really great personality and the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 11:28 PM
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Off topic but I always wonder when I read your flair. What does it mean being Roman republic government pilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:50 PM
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That's because when it comes to relationships it's about autonomy and the access to someone else's literal body. It's not about e.g. work discrimination, it's about the free will to get involved romantically with someone else. There's no way to actually change something without making it so that the actual free will cannot be exercised. We already had that in the history of humankind from outright slavery to creating artificial circumstances where people weren't able to make actual autonomous de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:41 PM
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A lot of women don't find casual sex satisfying and rather have no sex than bad sex. That's like saying you can have all the ice cream you want but you're lactose intolerant. All that this access will give you are cramps and diarrhea. So they stick with the sorbet they have at home - vibrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 10:26 PM
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Aren't those more or less synonyms for hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:42 PM

That says more about your friends than the women. Not everyone acts shittily just because they get the opportunity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:53 AM
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Oh, I'm a woman actually 😆 But seriously, I'm from Germany, our salaries are not that high as in the US for comparable jobs (but I think our costs of living are also lower) and if someone makes 100k here then that's definitely a big deal. At least for the average population. I'm from a blue collar background so maybe that's just my bubble, I'm definitely not part of the upper class where 100k could be seen as normal 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:25 PM
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I mean yeah, money is simply a tool to get you the things you want in life. If you're just accumulating wealth without ever doing anything with it then it's kind of pointless except for providing a safety net. Adventurous people are more exciting and interesting than couch potatoes (and that comes from a couch potato, I know that I'm quite boring in my day to day life) and having money simply allows you to be adventurous, that's all. That being said, since when is $100k not impressive? Are livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:27 PM
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Isn't there a saying that couples oftentimes look related? I also thought that you both have similar face features. My mom always says that my SO look a bit alike. We both have round big eyes of similar color for example. Maybe there's something to it that we are unconsciously attracted to people who look like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:16 PM
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Eh, occasionally I also sleep with women. But regardless, we're all humans and not different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 08:04 AM
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I don't think that money is part of an innate attraction. When choosing a life partner, money can be a factor of the other pile of factors beside actual attraction that one considers when choosing a partner. You have actual attraction, a combination of looks and how the guy makes you feel. And then you have all the other stuff that one might need for a successful relationship, and money can be a part of that. You know the saying "love is not enough". In order to make a life there are other facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 11:40 PM

But his appeal lies more in his behavior than his looks. Of course you can't be a complete ugly person, there has to be a base attractiveness. But he's also not the hottest guy out there. But being sly and still charming, showing intelligence and mischief, being quick witted, it all gives him a powerful aura, it's a feeling of being constantly flirted with. It's a strong aphrodisiac. He inspires fantasies, and that gets women way more going than simply physical attributes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:23 PM

I haven't read the books but I never understood the criticism about incorrect BDSM depiction. Like yeah, what happens in the books is the fantasy that (some) women have while they engage in heslthy relationships in real life. There are straight up rape romance novels. Doesn't mean that women actually want that to happen to them in real life (because in real life it's not by a man you lust after and a lot of people find the idea of pain enticing without actually wanting to experience it). It's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:17 PM
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Ah well, if we can't even agree upon common definitions of things then a discussion doesn't even make sense. I won't bother further trying to explain that a chair is not a table just because both have four wooden legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:27 PM
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Come visit and I take you to a private party, I'm living in the country of swinger clubs after all. Then you can see that there are a lot of dudes of normal sized dicks. I was more surprised about how many hot people are actually coming to those parties. I also had my prejudices about the kinky/swinger scene but you just have to pick your parties well. Established organizers, pre-selected guest lists, young people. Maybe it's different in the US but here in Germany it's fucking great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:24 PM
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Oh sorry, I wasn't aware that I'm talking with the spokesperson of all men. And of course, you are the standard for what "normal men" think and feel. It's really easy, right? Every man who thinks like you is normal, and if a man disagrees with you he is abnormal and gross, did I get it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:11 PM
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I mean, I live in Europe, I meet guys who are around. Would you say an African woman has a pattern of dating African men if she lives in Africa? 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:08 PM
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Of course, every man who has no issues with promiscuity is a cuckold, never change, PPD. Cuckolding includes a form of humiliation AND a form of sexual gratification from your partner sleeping with someone else. That is simply not the case for us. We have a shared sex life and we have individual sex lives, that's all. My partner doesn't care about my sex life besides from him one way or the other, besides that I'm safe. We don't really talk or rehash our experiences, we wish each other fun for d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:07 PM
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Yep, 12 years soon and opened up the relationship after 9 years of monogamy. Living our happy little hedonistic life and often laugh together when I tell him about the stuff I read on PPD :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:29 PM
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Depends on the guy. I know a bunch of dudes who waited with sex until marriage. If I have dated one of them it absolutely would have come up. And generally I think if you're into casual sex and have sex with women who are also into casual sex then what are talking about here? We're in the exact same boat lol. I think in general the world would be a better place without so much judgement. I don't judge the religious virgin for their view on sex even if I don't share it, and I would appreciate it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:27 PM
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I don't know what you mean with ethnic groups. I'm European and slept with European guys. But their nationality wasn't the REASON why I slept with them, that's just super weird. Is that an American issue or something? Don't you just look at women regardless of their ethnicity or national or whatever and decide if you find them attractive or not? I didn't even think about ethnicity when I thought about the people I had sex with. Just that I couldn't think of a specific pattern. Some were taller t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 01:17 PM
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I mean, ideally she wouldn't sleep with anyone she wasn't attracted to. I don't have sex with people I don't find attractive, that would be super weird, but I don't think that I have a specific type and I don't think that there's a recognizable pattern among the people I had sex with. Like, if ALL other guys she slept with were blonde, blue-eyed skandinavian hulks and you're a skinny Indian dude then maybe I would have questions. But honestly, the only thing the people I've had slept with have i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:24 PM
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They don't not want them because their n count is zero. Their n count is zero because no one wanted them. If you're handsome, have a great personality, are confident and know how to flirt and banter, you won't have an issue finding a woman who will take your virginity at 25+. However, if you actually have those qualities, then also wouldn't have struggled to lose your virginity at 18 or 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:14 PM
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I don't get point 1. Either I find someone attractive (physical and personality/action wise) or not. The fact alone that someone is a virgin is simply neutral to me. I also think it's the other way around. Women aren't not attracted to men because they're virgins, virgins are virgins (if involuntarily) because they have traits that women find unattractive and that's why they weren't able to have sex. I doubt any woman would have any issues deflowering a cheeky/flirty Henry Cavill who oozes sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:11 PM
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When I first got together with my SO and still wanted monogamy, he was only the third guy I have slept with at that point. He had a wilder youth/teenage and young adult years and was of the opinion that I've missed out on promiscuous fun and kind of pitied me a bit. He simply had a positive experience with sleeping around a bit and thought I would have had fun, too, if I had decided to be more promiscuous (which I'm doing now in my thirties and he was right). The number of people I slept with ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:04 PM
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They're the only ones for whom it's understandable and not hypocritical to want to get with another virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:54 AM
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I think the attitude is more important than the actual body count. For me, sex isn't holy and can be enjoyed casually. If I was single and open for a relationship, I wouldn't care if the dude was a virgin or has slept with 50 women as long as I find him attractive and we're compatible. I wouldn't date a monogamous virgin due to religion who wants to wait with sex until marriage. I would date a guy who simply wasn't lucky but is sex-positive, doesn't view sex as only something super special betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:43 AM
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Same. I do prefer to read, respectively audiobooks for long-term fantasy, audioporn for short-term fun, but I also indulge in the occasional video. I'm not a fucking hypocrite, though. Yes, with romance novels there's also the overarching plot (if the book is good) and it's about more than just the smut, but the smut is there, nonetheless (except for closed door novels but personally I find them boring). Most of my newly discovered fantasies came from romance novels, not video porn, so I'm not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:02 AM

Oh I definitely agree that option 1 is garbage. I just replied to the question about things that can't really be compromised on and those things are not always completely clear when you start to date someone or can easily change down the line. E.g. with the kids issue there are SO many couples that agreed upon having/not having kids and years later one of them changes their mind and now they have to come to big decisions. Definitely not option 1 because that would be mental, but option 2 also do…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:26 PM

I agree in general but from life experience I can also say that what you discuss and agree upon before starting to get serious with each other is simply what you want or envision at that point in time. E.g. the kids thing. My partner has always been ambivalent about it without a strong preference either way, only in the last few years he became strongly childfree. I flip flopped for years, strong desire for kids (probably hormonal), then not wanting any, and finally at around 30 came to the fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 05:29 PM
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You're asking that on PPD of all places? Btw, I agree with you, but we're in the land of "you only settled for your beta buxx husband, don't desire him and you have a dead bedroom; you're only with him because your clock was ticking and you couldn't get Chad to commit". Having the most negative views on things is what this sub is based on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:42 PM

Having or not having kids. Moving that cannot be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 03:08 PM
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Definitely. "Reverse Harem" is a very popular trope for smut/romance novels. It has it's own subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:54 PM
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r/regretfulparents says Hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:32 PM

Same for me with men. I'm reading the comments here and wondering where the people live or what kind of people they're meeting. I've never had any issues with men regarding condoms. The majority bring their own, sometimes they don't anticipate sex, but I always have some on me just in case. It has never ever been an issue. I'm flabbergasted by what I'm reading here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:21 PM

You should look into poly women and being their secondary or casual partner. That way she already has another regular source of connection with her primary partner and you can just meet up when your battery is full. Or just a partnered woman who is in a non-monogamous relationship, doesn't have to be fully poly. I think that could be a working compromise for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:48 PM
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I'm a woman in a LTR and we're living together. We've had a long time now rub against each other, so to speak, make compromises and be happy living with each other. I truly think that we'll be together until one of us dies. But should I ever end up single again, I don't think I would have the energy again for the whole process. I wouldn't be against finding companionship again, but I think I would also prefer to not cohabitate again. I know of women in their 50s, 60s, who lost their spouse. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:40 AM
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Exactly. I have paid a lot of times on dates because I like to treat people. I usually pick up the check and only relent if a guy really insists on wanting to pay. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:37 PM
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Nah, got engaged ages ago but can't be arsed to get the documents straight. Figured we don't want kids or don't have big shared expenses like a mortgage, just normal stuff like rent and bills, so didn't really see the necessity. It's also not really seen as something crucial to be done in my country, so I didn't feel a pressure from friends and family in that regard. I think at some point we might if we get our asses into gear to deal with the bureaucracy, but it just feels like a hassle. I'm al…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:01 PM
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I don't have a reason to lie. I'm in a relationship of almost 12 years and we both like to fuck around. I'm also meeting many, many hot couples at swinger parties who like to be promiscuous and still manage to have a successful relationship. So I'm good. If I were ever to end up single again I wouldn't dream about getting with a judgmental dude, why should I actively work towards my own unhappiness? I'm also not from the US, the capital of puritanical ideas of the Western world, so I really don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:16 PM
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Yeah again: I can fuck around and have my fun, but I judge women who do the same. I would go ballistic if my daughter would fuck around and I also don't want her to be with a man who does the same thing that I deemed okay for myself. Really no news here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:56 AM
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As far as I know, pair bonding isn't even a thing in humans. And generally I don't believe that promiscuity has anything to do with being able to be a good partner or not. I know that because I see it on myself and my partner. He had way more sexual experience than me before we got together, didn't make him a shitty boyfriend. Lived almost a decade monogamously, then opened up the relationship. Since then both of us have been living more promiscuous. Didn't change anything in the relationship be…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:53 AM
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Yeah sure, when it comes to their daughters men have a completely different opinion. My dad also fucked around in his bachelor days but wouldn't want his daughters to deal with fuckboys. This is hardly news.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:49 AM
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This is just pseudo science.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:03 AM
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Sure. I have also fucked people without getting attached, so 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:03 AM
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I thought OP meant more the mindset, not reality. A lot of men claim that it's okay for men to fuck around because men are able to separate love from sex but it's not okay for women to fuck around because apparently they're not capable of separating feelings from fucking. Which is just untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:58 PM

I find that a weird way of thinking. Lot's of people, women and men also, are in relationships during their "prime" and life happens and they end up single in later years due to losing a partner or divorce. I've been in the same relationship since I was 24 years old. If I ended up single now in my thirties for whatever reason, I would find it super weird if a man my same age would have some kind of grudge that I happened to be in relationship with someone else during my 20s. I met my SO when I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 11:25 AM
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I guess all of the non-monogamous women including myself don't exist. I'm just a figment of my own imagination. "Reverse Harem" is a very popular trope in romance novels. Millions of women would love to have their own harem. That's not an exclusively male fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:48 PM
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It's not an "arrangement", we are in a relationship for almost 12 years, 9 of those were monogamous because I insisted on it. I was very insecure and afraid that he would fall in love with something else if sex was on the table. Took me a very long time to overcome this. We are also not insisting on non-monogamy. If he came home today and told me he wanted to go back to monogamy, I would drop any other contact in a heartbeat. Same vice versa, if I told him that I want to be exclusive again it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:56 AM
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Swear on my life. Tbf, my family is not from the US, she has lived there for a long time now but still has some original values, and also cooks and cleans and has a killer body considering that she birthed 4 kids. They do seem very happy with each other, at least that's what it looks like on Instagram lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:52 AM
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I simply reject your definition of commitment and loyalty. For you those words mean sexual exclusivity but my partner is loyal and committed to me and vice versa even if we don't care for sexual exclusivity. And my partner isn't happy despite being open. Why do you think that he was forced to do something he doesn't want? We were monogamous for almost a decade because I was the one who insisted on it. He was never sexual jealous or insecure, that was me. But no, PPD peeps read something about op…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:55 PM
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Wrong. I am 100% convinced that our relationship would have been the same if he was rich. I know that because 1) we were monogamous for the longest time because I insisted on it. He has never been sexually jealous and never thought that commitment meant sexual exclusivity. It was me who was insecure and felt I would lose him if he slept with someone else. So I came around to the idea, not the other way. 2) When we started dating, his firm was doing great moneywise and I was a poor student. He ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:37 PM
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I'm always baffled by the sheer inability of PPD men to simply accept that they're not the prototype of how men have to feel and to behave. I can never tell if it's a young age and missing life experience or narcissistic tendencies. You can't fathom that a man might have a completely different world view than you and if he does, you insinuate some unflattering reason like that he doesn't actually love me because otherwise it is sheer impossible for him to be happy in an open relationship. This d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:10 PM
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That's okay, I'm happy with my little loser life. I never said that I'm better than others. It is you who thinks you're better than me by calling me names. I don't have anything against monogamy, I lived it for the longest time and I think that it is the better choice for most people and it definitely has its own benefits. See how easy it is to not judge, not calling people names and having a civilized conversation online? I invite you to try it out sometimes. Cheers, Your friendly hedonistic lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 07:35 PM
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I have a family member, in her 40s, four kids, left her cheating, drug fueled first husband, no interest in a new relationship. She was literally a cleaning lady and a surgeon at her work was "hunting" her because he wanted her so bad. When they got together she literally had to leave work because of animosities because a cleaning lady dared to snatch up a surgeon. I've seen pics, he's good looking and just really seems like a kind person. Divorced himself, two kids. They recently married and bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:58 AM
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I recently chatted with a former colleague of mine. She is in her 60s. A few years ago she lost her (second) husband to illness. She recently started dating a new gentleman a few years older than her and they're smitten with each other. She was really glowing and looked absolutely happy and giddy and blushed like a teenager when she talked about him. You can find love at any age. As you said, if you want kids, be smart about it while you're younger, but besides that? I'm childfree, in a happy re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:47 AM

That's interesting, because for me it's the complete opposite. I was monogamous for almost a decade with my partner, with minimal previous sexual experience before him. So I was already in my thirties when I became more promiscuous after we openeduptherelationship, going on dates, meeting people and having casual sex. And sure, one or two experiences were a waste of time, but all in all I've had positive experiences so far and I would even say that my general opinion of men improved. I'm meeting…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:25 AM
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I absolutely don't understand that mindset at all. I have lived both and it's absolutely possible. Partner and I lived monogamously for 9 years, no issues. Opened up for a few years now, also no issues. If he came home today and told me that he wanted to close again, I would bid my contacts goodbye, close my dating profile and that's it. Maybe just avoid weak minded people. It's absolutely easy to live monogamously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:06 AM
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The last paragraph was kinda weird tbh but I don't have an issue with the rest. Although I don't think that one can make claims about someone character based on the status of their employment or promiscuity, I do agree that both don't really say anything about someone's ability to be a good partner. I have the example with my own life. I've become promiscuous since we opened up the relationship and also my partner is not making bank with his self-employment. This last year has been especially ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:49 AM
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Typical. When something goes against the belief system of PPD, it must be untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 03:36 AM
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Of course they do. I'm honestly wondering where this belief that we don't do that is coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:41 PM
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I'm in my thirties, I know women who are still with their highschool sweetheart, body count of 1, and I know women who slept around. All of them are in normal relationships/marriages, most of them with kids. Here is why I know that the whole "hoe phase destroys woman" stuff is garbage. Because I actually have lived both. When I got together with my partner, I had a low body count, he was the third guy I slept with. Before that it was my first love and then one ONS with a friend at university. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 06:36 PM
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It would be quite awkward and hypocritical given our open relationship that he enjoyed himself so far. I think I would be absolutely flabbergasted as that would have meant that he either made a 180° personality change or that he had lied about his personality and world view for over a decade. Both would be devastating as it would show that he's not/no longer the man I fell in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 02:40 PM
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Of course? I'm not interested in a wedding event myself, but I was involved a bit in the planning of my sister's wedding. She and her husband did all the planning and decision making together. He was deeply involved in everything and the whole thing was a clear representation of both of them. That's pretty normal and I would be alarmed if that wasn't the case because it either means that the guy is not allowed an opinion and decision making or he absolutely doesn't care about how his own wedding…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:37 PM
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Same, and I'm a woman. I prefer written or audioporn. Spicy love stories are also great because they have actual plot and inspire to try new things. I discovered a lot of new things I like and/or want to try due to smut books. Not ashamed of it at all. I wouldn't be happy with a guy who has a more puritanical outlook. Like, additiction is a problem, but personally I don't see the issue with moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:19 PM
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I think it depends on if I even can provide care. Like, I wouldn't want to make it worse for him by inadequate care. But if I'm able then I'm doing it, no question about it. However, I would be super concerned about his mentality health. My partner is one of those people who would not be able to really cope with something like that and I would live in constant fear that he might decide to commit suicide because of the circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:15 PM
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I also like the bald look, way more than e.g. a man with long hair. Don't like long hair on a man at all. But the most important physical feature for me has always been the face. If I'm not attracted to your face then you can have the nicest body out there, it just won't work. On the other hand, if I really like your face, then the body isn't that much of importance. Of course I'm not talking about extremes, though. Like, super anorexic or super fat wouldn't do, but I've been attracted to chubby…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 08:47 AM
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Eh, depends on the woman. I don't really dress "provocatively" in normal life, but I never cared if I attracted the attention of men. It's all about behavior in the end. If they're respectful and accept a No if I'm not interested, then all is well. Let them look. Especially when I was younger, in my twenties, I was quite cute, no matter the outfit, so if men looked or gave a compliment in passing, it was never an issue. Harassment is the issue, if that occurs, not mere attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:01 PM

I'm not a US citizen but as far as I know, federal law supersedes state law, no? I assume that now, that everything is in the hands of Republicans, they could introduce a federal law that makes abortion illegal. So the voting within the states for/against abortion rights would be futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:45 AM
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Truly religious women aren't interested in worldly men. I went to church for a few years in my teens/early adult years and witnessed relationships and marriages (they married young). They date guys from the same church, other churches, or guys they meet at bible school after highschool. I don't know any religious woman who ended up with a non-believer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 08:05 PM
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Some yes, some no. I'm definitely overweight (something like 90 kg with a height of 169 cm) but I have a cute face and nice enough personality and I attract men I consider hot. There are plenty of men who like plus site women, even some who are super fit themselves. Some men just like meat on a woman, others don't. In my personal experience, the face makes a big part of sexual attraction anyways and if you have a nice personality, can hold a conversation, show actual interest in the guy and if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 08:06 PM
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That is not really flattering to men, if true, sorry. Sexual attraction is one thing, and I guess for women there are different factors that influence if there will be sex or not. But for a relationship? This list is kind of insulting, ngl. I got with my partner specifically because he is who he is. It wasn't a "you will do" situation because I was happy by myself, but this particular person made me even more happy. And he got with me because he was specifically interested in me and not just any…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:24 PM
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Depends on if he can counter it with great other qualities, I guess. Really depends on how the individual woman ranks different qualities, I guess. For the guy in the video, I obviously don't know anything about him. So the first impression can only be based on seeing him, his looks and mannerisms. He's obviously not dumb, which is a plus. He's not a supermodel but also not ugly at all, so for me it wouldn't be a "would fuck" situation by just seeing him (which tbh is very rare in the first plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:51 PM
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From the top of my head, the few single moms of whom I know how their lives progressed, they eventually met someone, got married and had more kids. Even if they're not as young anymore it doesn't seem to be a big problem. I have a family member who is around 40. 4 kids, divorced (tbf, her ex really is a POS, threw wife and family away for drugs and affairs), without a formal education (got pregnant young and whisked away to another country by her ex) and in the end she married a freaking surgeon…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 10:22 PM
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For me, intelligence is one factor of attractiveness that isn't necessarily on the forefront when you just met someone, but if it is missing, it's a big factor of why the first meeting wouldn't lead to anything. It's a silent factor I guess, which one kind of takes for granted, and which only reveals its necessity when you notice its absence. With that, I guess instead of saying that super intelligent men are attractive just because of their intelligence, I would say that super dumb men will bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:52 PM
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There are more people and relationships out there than you might think. Since opening up our relationship I have put my toe into "the scene" and there are SO many people in non-monogamous relationships of all kinds. Swingers, just open, poly - it's very possible that you already know people in non-monogamous relationships without knowing this specific thing about them. I'm currently meeting a married guy who is in an open marriage. His wife has a full boyfriend while he himself is more intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:10 PM
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Yeah maybe, but personally I can't relate to that. I'm hetero, so in theory I also wouldn't need to care about how the women look like in porn. But if one looks pretty awful and unattractive, then I don't want to watch either. I'm not sexually attracted to the women in porn, but if they're attractive, it's at least nice to look at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:22 PM
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<image> I admit I love those "old money" outfits influencers are sporting on social media. Or "the Italian guy" look, which is basically the same. I personally have no fashion sense myself and wouldn't even be able to create an outfit out of individual elements. But then I see a well dressed man and I'm immediately like "Yes. This. This I like".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:34 PM
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Romantically interested? I don't think there's one specific quality that could make me immediately interested. It's always several factors and then building on it. A combination of looks, personality traits and behavior makes someone Romantically interesting and and romantic interest for me is never instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:30 PM
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If only they would also cast for actual attractiveness 😭 there are a few who look fine, but either they never show the man's face, which is annoying, as if women don't watch. Or the guy is just super unattractive. Like, even if you produce for the male gaze, I can't imagine that it's so great for a heterosexual guy to watch a fat, hairy man fuck a woman? I don't really get it. When the thumbnails already shows that the guy is ugly as sin, I don't even click on it. Instant libido killer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:16 PM
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At least for religious women I can't say that this is true according to my own experience. When I was a teen I attended a youth group for a few years, I think until I was 18 or 19 years old. Most of the others grew up in church, I didn't, just had a weird religious phase for a few years. Was friends with women who were a few years older than me, I think the youth group spanned from around 16 years to mid twenties. Those girls/women were very picky. I know of only three who actually had sex befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:09 PM
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Isn't that the truth. I just wished that the dudes especially in this sub wouldn't be so stubborn in seeing themselves as the thing others apparently have to orient themselves on. It usually goes like 1) denying that there are men who truly feel different than them 2) when denying doesn't work, present their own thoughts and feelings as the moral truth and anything that deviates from it is abnormal, immoral and degenerate. I wonder if it's just youth and inexperience or a narcissistic trait spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:35 PM
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I'm personally not a fan of categorizing specific character traits as "feminine" or "masculine". Everyone of us, no matter their sex, has traits that are seen by society as feminine or masculine. What percentage of each category does one need to have in order to be classified as a feminine or masculine person? It just seems silly to me. Each personality trait that is deemed either masculine or feminine is represented often enough in the opposite sex it's usually associated with, so this categori…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:29 PM
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I honestly don't know. It's one of those situations where I can't forsee 100% what I would do, I'd first need to actually experience it in order to know how I would react. There are factors that would pull me in different directions and just hypothesizing about it, I can't say for sure which ones would win in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:23 AM
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I'm European and as un-puritanical as it gets, living in a non-monogamous relationship and attending swinger parties. I do not, however, agree at all with this "only the cheater owes loyalty so the affair partner is off the hook" narrative. If I know that something wrong is going on, I refuse to be a willing participation. It's that simple. So if people do decide to contribute to wrong behavior, yeah, I'm definitely judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:41 PM
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I once stumbled into a group of women like that. I was never really completely a part of it as I got to know them by being with my partner and him being friends with their partners. Whenever one of them wasn't around, the others would talk shit about them. One woman in particular always had one negative thing or the other to say behind their backs. And these women claimed to be friends for ages. I kept my mouth shut whenever I saw them. I just knew they did the same to me when I wasn't around. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:32 PM
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Being able to work is not about loving it. There are only few people who are actually passionate about their jobs, the rest of us would walk away if we won the lottery and could live comfortably for the rest of our lives. Being able to work is about financial independence. Everyone can decide for themselves what kind of life they want to live, but if a woman asked me specifically for my advice, I would never tell her that it's a good idea to financially depend on a romantic partner. Never put yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:12 PM
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And that's totally fine. People are so cynical and ruthless here. I have a corporate job, bf is a self-employed mechanic (though he did get the highest education in his field in in our country, equivalent to a master's degree in University). I make more money, with salary adjustments at least once a year. A couple of years more and I'll be at 100k € gross salary per year, which makes me happy. Don't care at all that my partner doesn't make as much. I think for a comfortable life, everyone should…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:06 AM
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Well, first of all, I only have sex with men I find hot in the first place, I don't know why I would sleep with someone I wasn't sexually attracted to. In regards to specific sex acts: there are things I know I will never want to try, mainly stuff that belongs in the toilet. For new things I get mostly inspired by smut literature. I read something that sounds exciting and I'm basically up for it with anyone I'm sleeping with. Of course there are caveats like do I know him well enough and trust h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 11:46 PM
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I think I know what I'm attracted to 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:09 AM
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Well tbh, as a 99% straight woman I do enjoy MM porn way more than FF porn 🤷‍♀️ but then, I'm also apparently in the minority of women who find MM action hot and don't have an issue with bisexual men and don't find the image of a man getting fucked by another man repulse or "unmanly", so what do I know? I've had sex with women out of curiosity. It can be a nice experience but as a straight woman it's really like going through the motions, there's no raw, animalistic lust as with a man. Watching …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:17 AM
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I'm not poly as I don't have multiple relationships, I'm just in an open relationship. But in any case, there's ethical non-monogamy and non-ethical one. Cheating falls under non-ethical. I don't get with cheaters, at least not knowingly. I have been contacted by men in relationships who wanted an affair and I've rejected every single one of them. Ethical non-monogamous people don't condone cheating. If it's not up in the open and with enthusiastic consent from the people involved, it's rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:38 PM
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We just like variety and the excitement of newness, that's all. Sex for us is not something sacred and sex with a loved one you know for ages is different than sex with someone new. As I said, variety. If both agree that you don't have to sacrifice this in order to be in a relationship I don't see what's wrong with it. I'm not against monogamy and actually think that for most people it is the right relationship form. We just realized that us two in a relationship with each other makes non-monoga…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 09:10 AM
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I'm childfree with or without a relationship. I don't really have the drive for an actual career, but if those two are my only options I definitely would take option 1. Even when we were contemplating having kids I wasn't interested in being a SAHM. I'm also not interested in climbing the corporate ladder but I always wanted financial independence. If the only option for a relationship is submitting to birthing kids and staying at home, I'd rather forgo the relationship. Thank god irl there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:29 PM
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Overall stability and comfort with peaks of passion and excitement here and there. As life should be in general, I think, not just romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:22 PM
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I honestly don't get this. Being slutty doesn't mean someone isn't relationship material nor that they're a cheater. I actually know because I've lived both relatively chaste and more promiscuous. Got together with my partner with almost no sexual and relationship experience, lived monogamously for almost a decade before we both liked to have a bit more variety and opened up the relationship. I've since had more sexual partners and that had absolutely no influence on my capabilities of leading a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:23 PM

That's the Million dollar question, isn't it? In most cases probably personality and actions towards a woman that inspire horniness. On the other hand, as with my celebrity examples: I don't know Henry Cavill nor Chris Evans. Both are handsome. But for whatever reason the first one inspires fantasies in me about him acting in a sexual way towards me while the second one doesn't inspire any sexual thoughts. It's more like looking at a pretty picture in a museum. You can admire the beauty without …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 12:15 PM

The same way as with e.g. a same sex person if you're straight. I find a lot of women attractive but I don't want to fuck them just because of their attractiveness. It's just that I can have the same non-desire towards an attractive man as well. Attractiveness is necessary (most of the time) for sexual attraction but it's not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:52 AM

I didn't use the word attraction but attractiveness. Someone can be attractive without you experiencing attraction towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:37 AM

What is manipulative about it? Attractiveness and sexual desire is simply not the same thing. I can say that objectively Chris Evans is an attractive/good looking man. I still have zero sexual desire towards/lust for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:16 AM

I think what actually happens is that desire changes over time the longer you're with someone. It's the old classic theme of the honeymoon being over. It doesn't matter which man, you can have Henry Cavill or George Clooney, the longer you're together with someone, the raw lust you feel at the beginning of the relationship will fade. That's basically inevitable in the majority of people, not only women. The difference is that satisfaction through sex is easier achievable for men than women. So m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 11:05 AM
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Agree with you. That has been my standard since I was of dating age. I never really felt the need or want to be in a relationship just to be in a relationship. When I met my partner and got to know him, I wanted to be in a relationship with him because he is who he is. I wanted him specifically. If I were to ever be single again, I would have the same standard. I think life if so much easier if you're not running around with a person shaped hole in your life, looking for someone who more or less…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:52 AM
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Of course not. If a man is an asshole, it's her fault for choosing him. If a woman is an asshole, she's at fault because "women are the choosers and the poor man had no other choice than being with her or being alone". In RP spaces at the end of the day everything is a woman's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:38 AM
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I never understood retroactive jealousy. It's worrying about things you can't change anyway. Also there's a reason why exes are exes. If he's not clearly still pining for an ex then imo there's nothing to be jealous about and if he's still pining for an ex then he clearly shouldn't be in a new relationship anyway and I would dump him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 06:51 AM
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Agree with you, also a woman. With a caveat. I think it's really a give and take. Absolutely, speaking up and bringing up things that are going wrong is correct and needed. But personally I'm also glad that I'm in a relationship where both of us are actually able to sense with each other if something is wrong and are able to make the first step when we sense that the other is currently not able to for whatever reason. I'm not sure that I could be with someone who has no grasp whatsoever of my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 05:39 AM
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Absolutely. I'm a woman and I don't have sex if I don't actually want it and if I'm okay with getting only sex. I never understood the "using sex to get commitment" thing. If I really, really want to have sex with someone, then I'm happy no matter what might happen afterwards (except if the sex was really awful). If I was concerned about getting commitment and afraid that having sex without having commitment would hurt me because I'm already too emotionally invested, then I would wait with sex u…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:27 PM
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I see it the same way but I think we're also in the minority. I don't have sex if I wouldn't be satisfied with walking away ONLY with sex, if that makes sense. I think there are a lot of women who use sex to get something else, which I personally find stupid, but I think that's the whole crux of the thing. If you wouldn't have sex with him without any expectations of something more then don't have sex with him period. There are no guarantees. If you want ultimate commitment, wait until marriage.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:05 PM
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I kind of have the feeling that it's also cultural. From what I understand, cold approaches seem to be (or were) very common in the US. In my country it's just not a common thing to use to get in touch with new people. I'm a Millenial btw. In my youth I have been cold approached only a few times and it was always a pleasant or neutral experience so I never had an issue with it. What I read from women online from the US, that it's very common to get approached by strangers all the time when just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:38 AM
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Personally, I take both 🤷‍♀️ having variety is great 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:26 PM
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Casual sex is not only something for guys, my dude. Enough women enjoy it, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:14 PM
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I'm saying that on a world scale the numbers need to be 50:50, if we're not talking about stuff like polygamy. The user I replied to didn't talk about differences between men and women within the same race. He said that more men (independent of race) are in mixed relationships than women (independent of race) and I don't see how that is supposed to work. Of course it's possible that more Asian women are in mixed relationships than Asian men because more Asian women date white men than Asian men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:14 PM
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I was commenting on a specific statement from a user and there was no limitation to a man's race in that statement. It was simply said that more men are in mixed relationships/marriages than women. So if you take all humans on this world and we assume that the ration man to woman is about 50:50 then for every man who is married to a woman from a different race, the same number of women is married to a man from a different race because you literally need one of each in order to have one of those …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 09:07 PM
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If a white man is married to an Asian woman then this Asian woman is logically married to a white man. So within one interracial couple, one man and one woman are dating someone from a different race. Within 10 interracial couples, it's still 50:50. How can more men be in an interracial relationship when you need two people for a relationship to begin with? When one says that more men are in interracial relationships than women, whom are they dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:33 PM
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Maybe I don't grasp how the statistics work, but wouldn't it be that for every man who is in a factual relationship with a woman from a different ethnicity, a woman is in the same position?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:15 PM
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You don't even have to be a full lesbian to understand that dating, at least on apps, is more difficult for heterosexuality men. It's enough if you just try it just to see how it goes. I am like 98% straight, bi-curious at best, but I did want to check how it would be with a woman. As I'm not really going out much, dating apps are my best bet and it's a drag to get anything going with women. I mean, I also had my own struggle in that I find a lot of women pretty but not sexually arousing due to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:10 AM
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Nobody should ever have any kind of sex they truly don't want to have. Unwanted but consented to sex builds sex aversion over time and that's a clusterfuck nobody should be forced to deal with. Obviously there are grey areas and every person is different in what is okay for them/won't harm them and what is not. E.g. I generally don't mind giving a BJ even if I'm not in a sexual mood, the exception would be if I felt really shitty, e.g. in pain/sick. But for others, any kind of sexual act while n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 09:48 AM
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I assume it's also probably a regional issue. I'm not from the US but I have family there. I have twin nephews, 18 years old, starting to get interested in girls but not yet fully (their hobbies occupy a lot of their time, as well as school as they're very ambitious) but they always have girls around anyway. Friends groups in school are still just as mixed as they have been in my youth. Even their younger brother, who is 14 or 15, constantly hangs out with girls. So even if they're not romantica…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:02 PM
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I understand the dating app issues. 99% of men of my peers (friends, acquaintances, family members) roughly my age are in relationships or married. I certainly don't think that all or most of them are attractive, at least not to me, but they have all found love sooner or later. An acquaintance of mine, super nice guy, is short and got bald fairy early. He's still with his highschool sweetheart who has been considered a smoke show, very pretty face, has always been thin. All of these average men …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:21 PM
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You're absolutely correct, it's an extra switch. Of course, there are always deviations, but they don't really have anything to do with the guy. E g. when going on the date, where exactly am I in my cycle, i.e. am I currently generally more horny or not. That can also be a big factor in if he gets lucky or not. The same guy could have gone home alone if he went out with her two weeks earlier or two weeks later :D but a lot of men think it's the magic of Chad, when often enough it doesn't really …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:37 PM
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I don't think that I'm only attracted to 5% of men. Also, it's a combination of things. Yes, a base attractiveness needs to be there, but that doesn't mean that he needs to be a model. I had the experience that men may not be super handsome (but also not ugly, just attractive enpugh, physically speaking) but their behaviour, flirting, banter made them overall sexual attractive. There's more to sexual attractiveness than just looks but it's also not baking, where you mix very precise amounts of i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:32 PM
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I think that's because for a lot of guys if she's hot, they're more or less already sexually attracted and can have sex. While for a lot of women it's a bit different. Yes, base physical attractiveness is important but without the spark/chemistry it's like looking at a beautiful picture. Just because you admire its beauty, doesn't mean you want to fuck it. Actual sexual desire develops through interaction, how he makes her feel, the flirting, the banter. If that goes great you have chemistry. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:13 PM
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I always wanted to visit Alaska in the summer. Nature must be stunning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:39 AM
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I'm not insulting anyone. Dude stated that people in this sub aren't normal, which I agree with btw, but it's not a moral judgement, simply a deviation from the norm, which also applies to me in some aspects. I simply repeated what he had written about himself and stated that his outlook and behavior is also not regarded as normal, so he fits just right in with the rest of us :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 06:31 PM
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Lol we're all some kind of outliers here. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but weren't you the dude who has such a massive issue with childfree people that you wouldn't hire them and if you're able to discriminate against them regarding jobs you're doing it? Hate to break it to you, buddy, but that is not really normal either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 08:44 AM
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Dude, you were the one who started replying to me! I didn't invite you to start a conversation but I will finish it. It doesn't matter if it's strangers or people you know. You can't read minds nor can you assess what goes on in someone's subconsciousness. It's called subconscious for a reason. I'm not trying to get you, I provide logic. Something I heard men are supposed to be a fan of. I don't know if I'm smarter than you but I take a page out of your book and just claim that I am. Move along …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:22 PM
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You made a statement as if you know what goes on subconsciously within another person. You simply stated a claim without being able to prove it. And this is not what you observed. If anything you can say that you personally observed women flirting with other men why being in a relationship. You can't say anything about their motivation, nor what goes on subconsciously. You observed one action and assigned motivation to it, thus it being a statement that can neither be proved nor disproved.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:36 PM
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Well that's a statement that can neither be proved nor disproved, now can it? I read a lot of those in this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:53 PM
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I agree with you. Personally I can't remember ever having a real life conversation with other women about "shit testing", though, nor have I ever attempted it. I honestly only learned about it on Reddit. Maybe it's also a location and/or generational thing, that I don't know. But I never ever had the idea of testing a partner in any kind of way pop into my mind. I always just went out with them and just naturally noticed if anything in their behavior I liked or disliked and made my choices accor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:14 PM
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Lol probably. For me that would be the only circumstances under which I might consider having them, so 🤷‍♀️ I just remember it because the brother of my former host mom lives with his family in Switzerland and she told me that the situation with daycares in Switzerland was more grave than in Germany (where we all are from), Belgium (where my former host family lives) or France. When I was an Aupair, the younger child was born during my stay there. They have planned it so that the mom stayed home…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:34 PM
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Doesn't Switzerland have a huge problem with daycare access for kids under 3 or 4 years old? Especially in villages? The last I've heard was that it's still very conservative in that regard and that one parent basically has to stay at home for the first few years because there's not enough care places outside of the home. I can imagine that this is also a contributing factor of the low natality rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:14 PM
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Yep, there's definitely a difference. I turned down men who looked perfectly fine, good even. I could objectively say that they weren't ugly. I just didn't feel a physical/sexual attraction. When asked why I turned them down, if I don't liked how they look, etc. I say that it's like looking at a nice picture in a museum. Just because you appreciate its beauty doesn't mean you want to fuck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:12 AM
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If your takes actually do represent the average young American woman then I finally do get the redpill guys here. Alas, I do think you're a troll anyways 🙄. $3 for a slice of cheese is mental. And that's coming from a non-cheap woman. I have no issues being frivolous with my money from time to time but I would never consider someone cheap for refusing to paying that amount for a fucking slice of cheese. I would compliment his common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:09 AM
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It was a long time ago that I read about this, so my memory might be a bit wobbly, but I think it was in Canada that they did studies on the brains of circumcised male infants and it was shown that their brains changed after circumcision. The research was shut down and it was prevented to look further into it. When I was still interested in having children, I made the decision not to get romantically involved with men who support male circumcision due to their religion. I was quite young when I …
/r/MensRights17/08/24 02:03 AM
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When it comes to finances of a partner there are a few things that are important to me: 1) he is able to support himself 2) if I lose my job he's able to support both of us for a while until I get a new job 3) He doesn't live paycheck to paycheck where every cent needs to be accounted for. I have the same expectations to myself. I don't care if he actually makes more money than me. I met my partner when I was still going to university and he was already self-employed. I was since very lucky and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:13 PM
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I think a lot of people here are lowkey trolling, at least that's what I hope when I read some of the stuff posted here constantly. Another explanation could be that a lot of members of this sub here are neurodivergent and/or grew up in American puritanical culture that is way more extreme than anything that I've experienced growing up in Europe. I just get annoyed by the complete incapability of so many users here (mostly men) to simply even entertain the idea that other people could think diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:02 PM
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As long as I find him attractive and he has a good personality and no outlandish views or a severe mental illness, I wouldn't have an issue with it. I think it could bring a special kind of fun to the bedroom. But in my experience the vast majority of men who are attractive and have a good personality don't have any issues losing their virginity before middle age. So if someone is still a virgin at that age there's usually something and the chances are high that he gets rejected even without the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:30 PM
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Agree, I'm childfree anyways, but even if I wasn't I would have no wish to be a stepparent. More power to those people who can do it and do it well, but that's not me. Besides, everyone can reject anyone for any reasons. Do I think that some reasons are more stupid than others? Yes. But being a parent is not a stupid reason in my opinion. Having kids is in the same sphere of someone who plans on moving abroad while you want to stay put or someone who has a very demand job and is almost never aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 08:24 PM
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Same, I don't really care for it. I'm always open to be surprised, but so far 0 orgasms from oral. For me there's just not enough pressure, fingers are way better imo. But several men have expressed their surprises when I told them to apply more pressure, I'm actually envious of women who are getting off by the slightest touch. Totally unrealistic for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:22 PM
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Wouldn't it be way more relaxing to be in a situationship with a woman who actually wants exactly that as well? I mean, I have a fuckbuddy I see every few weeks/months and it's just a matter of "you free tonight/tomorrow?" with otherwise no communication in-between. There's no constant nagging or argument because all we both want is a nice evening here or there to have a nice conversation with a glass of wine and then fuck. I think he would be way more stressed if I were actually interested in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:16 PM

Why are you saying it's a distinction in the first bucket instead of the decision between the first and the second bucket? If she's crazy but hot, she's hot enough to fuck but it's not enough to date, so into the second bucket she goes. First bucket: hot+right personality Second bucket: just hot Third bucket: neither nor
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:52 PM
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It really depends on the context. If my partner would ask me that then I know that it's an exception and he most likely wants to taste again the soup his grandma used to make that I've learned to make for him. If however he was acting entitled and asked because he thinks he deserves to be catered to each day because he is a man and it's the woman's job to cook, then yes, I would absolutely react like that. But then, I wouldn't be in such a situation anyways because I would never date a guy who t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:46 PM

I call bullshit on that one. Men can just as much find a woman charming and sexy but their lives are simply incompatible, so that's why she's good enough for sex but not for a relationship. It can be the same things for men and women. E.g. he/she has kids, and one has one interest in beiden a stepparent, all of their hobbies are boring to you, you don't like their religion, their imagine of a romantic relationship is completely different from yours, etc. As if men don't take such things into con…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:41 PM
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If he asked me to cook everyday? I would definitely have a problem with that, yes. Once in a while I'll prepare something and I've learned his favorite meal, but I refuse to take it on as a daily chore. I can't stand cooking, our schedules differ vastly anyway and besides the weekends we're not able to eat together anyway and then we prefer takeout. He's also very against veggies and I would go crazy trying to come up with different meat+noodles dishes. And again: I already do more of the househ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:32 PM
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Meh, I don't cook. We are both working full time and my partner is actually a better cook because he went to school for it even though he decided not to have it as a career. I do most of the shopping, pet care and laundry. He can feed himself and better than I ever cook. If I was a housewife and the home is my only responsibility it's another thing. But with two full time working people I don't see why it would be my responsibility just because I'm female.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:21 PM

You're funny. But for an actual sexy mood playlist try this one: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3S2nVs23Wob43lrLnjeMW1?si=svQiFs4TSyOrZh4H6o85_g&pi=95XssuA2Q92p2
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:53 PM

Why do you think that women only have two buckets? There are definitely enough men who are attractive enough to fuck but not good enough for a relationship. Give me my three buckets, damn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:46 PM

I would agree with that. I'm a woman and I never had an issue with normal, respectful cold approaches. Not saying they're successful but I never demonized a guy who tried to shoot his shot. Only here on Reddit did I learn that other women (most of them American as it seems) have a general problem with that. I won't deny that there may be tendencies or culture shifts in the dating world, I'm not in my early 20s anymore. But I also can only advise to just act how it's right for you (while still re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:34 PM
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No, not really. If I found him hot with a pleasant personality, so, feeling attracted to him, then I wouldn't care. But as I said, in my experience hot men with a pleasant personality usually don't stay a virgin until 35. So if someone doesn't have any experience at that age there's usually a reason. Either unattractive or shitty personality or a combination of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:40 AM
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Oh Jesus. We were talking about men who can't get women. First of all, noble said anything about unattractive. Also, it is not bigoted to say that a part of men, who are not able to get women, could be morally bad and that's the reason why they can't get women - because women don't want to be with morally bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:34 AM
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Are you currently high or drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:22 PM
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Not always. I had a fuckbuddy who's a handsome man, who doesn't have trouble attracting women but does have trouble keeping them. I also knew I wouldn't have been interested in something serious if I was searching for that. He's very nice and kind and I've had nice conversations with him. But there's just something and I just can't put my finger on it. Something in his personality just isn't clicking. Not in a red flag kind of way, just in a "I don't think that would work out longterm" kind of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:21 PM
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In general I wouldn't care if I found that he has traits that are attracted to me, both physically and personality wise. The thing is, I don't know any man who is actually a catch who had remained without any kind of experience into his 30s. It's possible that they're out there but I think they would be a minority. I think it's more plausible that I wouldn't be attracted to such a man automatically without even knowing his status because something about him just makes him unattractive. That's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:09 PM
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"Blacks"? Are we talking about race here? And if yes, how did come race into the conversation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 10:02 PM
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Idk, I'm a woman. I think a few questions as ice breakers or when a topic dies down are good and both men and women should be capable of asking questions. But imo the best conversations are those that just flow naturally, you're getting from one topic to the next and both have constantly something to contribute and feed off each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:54 PM
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I don't know what you're reading into my comment, but it was simply a tongue in cheek joke about the ambiguity of the word "bad".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:48 PM
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Bad as in morally bad? No. At least not all of them. Bad at attracting women? Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:39 PM
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Tbf he had also stuff done to his face to look more attractive, he wasn't born naturally attractive. I've seen pics of him i his earlier days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:53 AM
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Idk, people have different sides to them, no? E.g. both my partner and I are "stoic" when it comes to relationship problems and discussions. I just call it being in control of your feelings. We never yell at each other and in 11 years have never deliberate hurt the other during arguments or called each other names. I couldn't be with a man who explodes easily and who loses control, but the same is true for my partner. He also wants to be with a woman who is able to control her feelings and is ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:18 AM
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I don't think it's that hard to just say "I'm not attracted to you". It's neutral and can still be polite. You're not bullying the person or making snide remarks and it keeps everything's on a subjective level. Just because I am not attracted, doesn't mean no one else wouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 10:42 PM
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Eh, Idk. I read romance/smut, the most it did was letting me discover new kinks and give me ideas for new things to try out in the bedroom, but other than that I'm well aware of the unrealistic depiction of fictional men and it doesn't make me disillusioned. The only think that is actually disappointing in comparison to real life are the dirty talk skills of fictional men. No real man is able to talk dirty (the right kind of way) ss men written by women. But that is actually a skill that can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:55 PM
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I think it's mostly shared. I make more money in the corporate world than my partner in self-employment so I have no issues paying for flights, hotel and excursions. He usually pays for dinners. He sometimes insists on paying me back a portion of the vacation costs but I reject it as much as I can. For me it's important to be able to spend this time away together, I don't care about who pays. We both profit from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:47 PM
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I think for the most part, yes, especially when it comes to strangers. There are always the exceptions where with time attraction can build, but those are exceptions. Of course it's a combination of looks and personality as an unpleasantly personality can be so off-putting that even the hottest guy suddenly looks ugly, but feeling attraction is of course important. And in most cases there's really nothing you can do to force it. Either it's there from the beginning or in some cases it can develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:02 PM
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Idk if I completely agree with that he always needs friends to make him more appealing (not that he doesn't need any friends at all, just for making him more attractive), but having hype men surely isn't wrong. But I agree that it's not gonna happen with cold approaches if she doesn't find him immediately attractive. I won't deny that it's definitely tougher for people who aren't genetically blessed. In the end, everyone can only cultivate the positive traits they have and decide for themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 08:23 AM
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Of course it does. Being attracted to someone is the first threshold, personality the second. If you look good but are an asshole, misogynist, racist, etc. your looks will not persuade me to get with you. But if I don't feel attraction to you from the get go in a cold approach, you won't get my number. Now, there are exceptions. I remember being attracted to someone more because of his (presumed) personality than his looks until it turned out that his personality wasn't that great either. In ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:43 AM
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Who wants to be with someone who is not as attracted to them as they are? If I'm attracted to a man and he isn't that attracted to me I'd prefer him to tell me that so that I can find someone who is attracted to me as I am to them. I don't lead men on if I'm not that into them and I would expect the same in return. That's just being a decent human being. I think the notion that someone would get together with another person simply out of boredom or opportunity without actually being into them ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:40 PM
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Sounds like a lovely encounter :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:56 AM
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Yeah I sometimes wonder about the crowd here, also the women, and then I wonder if I'm also weird. But I had a pretty normal dating/sexual life until partner and I opened up the relationship, so I know that now I deviate from the norm. But still, some opinions here... granted, I'm not from the US, so maybe that's a factor. I constantly read from women how aggressive men are with cold approaches, don't take no for an answer, follow them around, etc. That has never been my experience with cold app…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:47 AM
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I am lucky in that in my over 30 years of life I haven't experienced really crass negative sexual attention like sexual assault/rape/stalking. There have been catcalling, being approached by men I wasn't attracted to or the painfully embarrassing and awkward teenage years when a - for me - strictly platonic friend confesses his feelings for me and I just didn't know how to handle it in a mature way. But all in all it's pretty harmless. I'm also not from the US and open random cold approaches are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:01 AM
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I think that's a big one. We say thank you to each other for the most mundane household things. We both loathe household chores. And of course it's a given that with two full-time working people we're both responsible for that stuff. But I don't understand the attitude of just taking something for granted because of course they're supposed to do that task. If my partner washes the dishes or cleans the pet's toilet, it means I don't have to do it (this time) and it's a relief. Of course I'm going…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:44 PM
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I appreciate our small bits of connections. We're in general a couple of two quite independent people who enjoy a lot of alone time, but the last few months have been extra challenging with my partner's self-employment, where we mostly only see each other briefly in the morning and late in the evening when he comes home and it's already time for bed. But those little mundane bits of connections are making me feel really appreciative. Even if it's just some dumb thing like a meme that I find funn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:37 PM
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That is not how most people grew up around the world. When I was a kid and it was summer break it wasn't unusual for us to be out all day until it started to get dark. No cellphones at that time as well. That was normal for all the kids in my neighborhood. Our parents didn't know exactly where we were. We didn't wander off for kilometers, but far enough that we weren't visible from our homes, e.g. when we were on a playground. It was completely normal that the playground was full of kids without…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:36 AM
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Eah, I'm baffled by this. When I grew up, the disparity between upper middle/upper class and the rest wasn't as big as it is today or as it has been for a long time in the US. Of course there were the ultra rich but they lived and live in their own world anyway. Almost everyone started working as a teen, at least just to not constantly rely on your parents. When I was 15, my mom worked in our local hostel and got me a gig washing dishes. Since I started working at 15 I never really stopped. Thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:23 AM
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I'm very much a person who cares more about actions than thoughts. Is it sometimes unnerving to read online what some men think? Sure. But I'm way more concerned about what they actually do. As long as their rantings, be it from incels or red pill dudes, remain just that, it's basically entertaining. Either something to laugh or rage about while drinking your morning coffee. Only once their thoughts turn to actual negative actions that can get dangerous for the women they interact with, am I con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:24 AM
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And here we have it again. A woman on PPD tries to actually explain something to a PPD guy only to be told that she's lying, because God forbid something could actually change his set in stone beliefs. I don't even know why I'm still trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:05 PM
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They can be. I don't have an issue with that. I have an issue with the thinking that a woman's sexual wishes are about a guy and not about herself and thus those resulting toxic thoughts of "she did that with someone else and not with me, she doesn't find me hot". He can be disappointed as much as he wants that she used to freaky and wild and is now vanilla but don't make it a pissing contest between you and some imaginary Chad from her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:47 PM
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Yes of course, but most people would still rather give someone a chance to induce sexual attraction in them whom they already find attractive instead of someone who disgusts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:24 PM
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If I'm going out on a date with someone I assume that I'm already attracted to him as I don't go out on dates with guys who do nothing for my lookwise, that's a waste of time. Then it depends on several factors: 1) am I generally in the mood for sex that night (factors are stress, hormonal status/cycle status, not gonna have sex when I'm on my period) 2) character of the date and how he behaves towards me, is he able to flirt and make me horny? Good looks are the starting point, but personality …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:22 PM
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But why do you think that this has anything to do with the guy she's with instead of who she is by herself at that moment in time? I've been in a LTR for 11 years now, my libido went up and down and up through the years, my taste for sexual adventure the same. If I were in several shorter relationships throughout that time, each guy would have gotten a different sexual being, depending on who I was at that time. What we want to do in bed is based on us, not the guy we're with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:06 PM
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Traits = personality, doesn't have anything to do with virginity status. I have never felt disgusted by virgins. I don't screen for non-virgins. If I like the combo of looks and personality, I wouldn't have an issue with popping someone's cherry. But I move in quite hedonistic circles, not very many virgins to find and I'm 35, not gonna get with an 18 year old baby. But if a cute and charismatic guy aged 25+ happens to be a virgin and wants to lose his v-card with me, I'm game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:00 PM
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Eh, I don't subscribe to that notion. I've been non-promiscuous with a low body count for the longest time and started being promiscuous in my mid 30s. Nothing about me changed. I could just as well enter a monogamous relationship again without any problems. There are thousands of different reasons why people cheat. If cheating is based in a psychological problem that could manifest itself in promiscuity, then it's still the psychological problem that's the issue and not the promiscuity. The sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:36 PM
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I mean, that's fine, but I was specifically commenting on the notion that women with a wild past will be bored in a LTR with vanilla sex and can therefore leave or cheat. And that's something that seems illogical to me as that's precisely what you can find out before marriage. If she's kinky and the guy she's dating is completely vanilla, then they discover this before marriage and can quit the relationship. I don't see the causality here with a "wild past". You can also have a tame past and sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:22 PM
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That's why you find out if you're compatible before marriage. Someone who finds vinalla sex boring won't want to have only vanilla sex even if they're settling down. If you had wild sex in the past and aren't interested in that anymore, then you won't have an issue with vanilla sex going forward. You know that you don't have to have vanilla sex just because you're in a longterm monogamous relationship, right? The respective couple simply has to find out if they're sexually compatible, that's all…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:11 PM
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I'm not OP but I would never be with a man who has a problem with my sexual past. I don't believe in this whole pair bonding shit and I think that someone's capability of being a good partner has nothing to do with their sexual activities. I even have the proof in my own relationship. My partner was the third person I had ever sex with, he had way more experience. He wasn't a worse partner for it. After years of monogamy we opened up the relationship and both added to our body count and it didn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:03 PM
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Huh? I try things because I'm interested in the thing itself, not based on how attracted I am to the guy. What kind of logic is that? You could be Henry Cavill and I still wouldn't try piss play or any of such stuff. You try things because you're interested in the thing, that's it. I'm pretty sure if a man wants to try anal it's because he wants to try anal, not because he suddenly has an epiphany that he wants to try it specifically with the new gf of his. It's exactly the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:49 PM
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Is that a serious question? The majority of people gets turned on visually. I would say for us women, we would need even more for actual lust (there's a reason why women read smut) and wrong actions can make a man undesirable even if he looks good. But the visual is definitely the starting point for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:39 PM
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As a woman who is mostly straight that's something that I don't get as well. Man on man action is fucking hot. Caveat: granted, as a mostly heterosexual woman I do like masculine men. So I guess I would have to say masculine man on masculine man action is fucking hot. Twinks don't do it for me. But in general, when I think about M+M, I don't imagine some super feminie display/behavior from one of the men, or let's say, I don't think that it's necessary. If I look at MM sex from a female gaze, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:19 PM
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Yeah but you basically confirmed that belief
/r/ExRedPill18/07/24 07:33 AM
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Because, believe it or not, people love their cow and are eager themselves to buy the cow and make her legally theirs. I know it's a weird concept, but there are men who actually are interested in the whole cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:02 AM
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It also entirely depends on what the individual person defines as low or high standards. Depending on the crowd you're moving in, there are a lot of men who simply don't give a shit. Also depending on culture. Maybe an a bit more extreme example but I know many couples who met on a kinky website that's predominantly used for sex dates. They have the same interests and outlook on life and now visit kinky parties together. They're still committed to each other, get married, have kids, they simply …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:59 PM
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If I had to base my opinion on men on the guys active on PPD, I would barricade myself in my apartment and never talk to men again. But out in the real world men are pleasant, funny, don't hate women and don't blame them for their own struggles. Of course there are assholes out there, but in general, if you're a nice person, people will be nice to you in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:54 PM

Yeah, I think with things like this it again will come down to what something regards as average, I guess. For me, if a man has a pretty face but is overweight, he is still above a guy who is normal weight but has an unappealing face. I'm plus size but also kinda curvy with big tits and a big ass and thankfully a pretty face. For some men I'm automatically below average because they only like fit/thin women, other men adore my body type and prefer it to thin women. So I guess there's probably al…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:50 AM

I think couples are mostly evenly matched look wise. I remember only one couple where I consciously thought "she looks so much better than him". She was a distant cousin I met in Russia, blonde, thin, long legs, the stereotypical Russian beauty. Could do with a nose job but besides that was relly pretty. He legit looked like a troll/ogre. I didn't get it. Well, when we got talking I learned that he apparently had an important job at Gazprom, so I was "oh, now I get it". Other than that I can say…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:49 AM
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Yes absolutely. If you're planning on a LTR it is crucial that both bring in money. I'm of the belief that longterm SAHP status isn't good for BOTH partners. On the one hand you have this crushing responsibility to provide not only for yourself but your partner and kids. On the other hand you're always in a vulnerable situation if you completely depend financially on someone else. Even disregarding abuse and/or divorce. What if your partner dies or gets disabled and can't work anymore? If you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 07:44 AM
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I guess like with all things it depends on the woman. I know that my libido grew tremendously in my late 20s and now in my 30s. I've seen that with other women as well. When I was younger I wasn't really interested in hookups too much, but I also wasn't really interested in a relationship, just stumbled into one because love happened. Now that I'm older and gathered more experience I'm relaxed when it comes to sex, I say what I want and was able to fulfill some fantasies. On the other hand at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:04 PM
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Yeah, in the big picture nothing of that really matters. Life in general will go on (or not) and the decisions of individuals about procreation are nothing to worry about. Me personally, I definitely walk a bit on the hedonistic side, but I can't say that I see that in every childfree person. In the end, it's better to abstain from procreation than to create a whole ass new human in the vague hope that they'll make you a better person. That's just an unfair burden on your innocent child and one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:21 PM
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r/regretfulparents would disagree with you. Not everyone would be a good parent and not every parent, who is good, actually enjoys it. I'm happy for everyone who really wants kids and has them. For me personally, it's too much of a gamble. You can't try out having kids. Once they're here you have to raise them. Once I made the final decision to remain childfree I felt already content in my decision. This has only been confirmed when my best friend confided in me that she loves her child but if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:06 AM
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Eh, some normies do. When I was young and full of idealism, I even went on a Nazi form to argue with (troll) those guys. I have always liked debate, no matter the topic and PPD is basically entertainment for me. I don't know if most people here a neurodivergent but I do get the feeling that with a lot of them SOMETHING is going on. The writing, the thought process, some honestly unhinged opinions - I sometimes think I'm in a different world when I'm on this sub. It's not even a gendered thing, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:53 AM

Childfree men exist. If I ever ended up single again I wouldn't want to date fathers or men who want to become them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:02 PM

Tbh I've also only encountered this attitude online. I'm not old old but I'm in my thirties. Men still desire me and I actually don't encounter the attitude offline that I see here. Men usually want to be with someone from their peers, age gap relationships are rare and men are very pleasant to converse with most of the time. Are there occasionally assholes? Sure. Are most of them like the redpill dudes I see here? Nope. I'm probably a rp man's nightmare of a woman for a serious relationship. Ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:58 PM
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Dude, you're replying to a month old comment? I had to reread the comment to even know what that's about. But fyi, I took your comment, agreed with it in general, and then expanded with my own thoughts, which - surprise - differ from yours. You said women want to have financial security therefore they look for men that can provide. I agreed with you that women, as everyone, want financial security, and then I explained that a better way to get and keep that security is by relying on themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:35 PM
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I love spending money and "provide". I love giving my SO cool gifts for his birthday or pay for a cool vacation in a nice hotel. We don't have kids, I make good money, why shouldn't I spend it on him? I'm younger than my SO but he sometimes jokingly calls me his sugar mommy and says that he invested in me when we started dating more than a decade ago, when I was still studying. And now with my high salary he reaps the benefits of his investment. I try to pay when we go out as well but most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:49 AM
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That's the one tjing that bothers me so much with this sub. Dudes here twist everything so that it fits their narrative. I've said it several times already but it's like with these ultra religious folks. They have their preconceived opinions and everything that doesn't fit that opinion is made to fit it. Oh, we find bones of dinosaurs that show the world is older than 6000 years? Well, God has planted them in the soil to test our faith. It's bonkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:47 PM
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Most people choose monogamy in order to restrict their partner, not because they're Inserent monogamous for themselves. Men and women. And I'm not saying that as criticism. Most people can imagine loving their partners and still having meaningless sex with others. Only a minority needs monogamy for themselves/their own body. It's just that most people don't want their partner doing what they can imagine for themselves. So a monogamous relationship is a compromise. People want a sexual faithful p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:00 PM
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Depends on the woman. I prefer men who are clear in their interest or disinterest in me. Doesn't mean they should be inappropriate if they happen to like me, though I'm in my thirties and I go out with adults, so luckily that doesn't happen anyway. But after a first date, just be honest about if there will be something more or not. I always put everything on the table even before the first actual meeting. Open relationship, only looking for fun/fwb situations, no commitment. Meet up, get to know…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:53 AM
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Nice glow-up! I agree that a baseline attractiveness is necessary for most women. Just curious, though, you've written in your glow-up post that this was after a breakup. So it seems that you didn't have an issue getting into a relationship even before you enhanced your physical appearance, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:17 AM
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I think it's wise to try to be logical. My gripe with RP, though, after engaging in this sub for several years now, is that it doesn't seem logical or neutral at all. It seems to me that many RP men try to interpret a woman's thinking or behave in the most unflattering and unforgiving way. Even if people can agree on specific behaviors, the WHY is so different. You can have women trying to explain things from their perspective until they're blue in their face, and a lot of men here will still in…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:46 AM
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I understand that. What I'm saying is when people dump someone who is "too nice", stuff like that is usually what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:59 PM
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Being a people pleaser is a nice person, that's just the bad side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 09:27 PM
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Hm, why is it manipulation if you're passionate about someone and show it? Is there only nice, non-flirting guys and bad, flirt-manipulating boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:11 PM
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Of course they would. There are plenty of posts in the different relationship subs or AITA where a man complains about their too nice wives. People pleasers, who are afraid of upsetting others, always being "yes women" to the detriment of their marriage. Because this is the one relationship they feel safe enough saying "No". So constantly upsetting their partner while bending over backwards to please others. They see their partners as an extension of themselves, which means that they rope them i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:08 PM
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You will not be able to shame women into having children if they simply don't want them. I don't have a problem with being a "genetic dead end". I'm in a LTR with a man who is even less interested in kids than I am. Everyone has the right to want kids, but nobody has the right to force others to submit to one's own want. Especially if you're of the sex that doesn't go through pregnancy. I can understand that it's frustrating to not find someone who is both interested in you and the same things y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:45 PM
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Idk, I only really started being sexually attracted to older (looking) guys the older I got myself. When I was younger, older guys were simply not on my radar. Now in my mid 30s I can go from guys in their late 20s to guys up to around 50. And also not like supermodel type of guys. I have a fwb who is around 50 and I find him genuinely attractive. I would have not found him attractive in my 20s. And I'm speaking purely physical here, I'm not looking for a relationship, simply casual fun, so I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:34 PM
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In the online world, mostly US centered? Yes, I do see that. In real life in my country? Not really. Not a widespread conversation among the general population. Maybe in small same sex groups where men complain about their women and vice versa and the same sex groups commiserate about their shared experiences being in a relaxed as their sex. Other than that, I don't see a big debate about viewing men as a collective while viewing women as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:28 AM
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Yup. I'm childfree. Sure, if I were a millionaire and could hire a surrogate and nannies that are here 24/7 then maybe I would go for it, but what's the point then, really? Pregnancy and child rearing is so unattractive to me that I would only do it....if someone else did it for me? Just to be a Mom on paper? I pass. (Would still take the millions, though, if someone is offering)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:12 AM
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Is it really new or is just the opportunity to actually do the chasing new?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:08 AM
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Have you considered different languages and meanings? I call my SO partner, it has nothing to do with any weird American views on that word. We are life partners. Or the German word "Lebensgefährte" which literal translation would be something like "life companion". Not everyone regards the word partner in a purely business view.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 09:03 AM
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Idk, when he was in his 40s or so I thought that his face was actually quite attractive, he kinda grew into it and I found him attractive. I've looked up photos from his youth and he wasn't really attractive, but became so later (purely physical I mean, not about his status or money). There are a few men who just look better when they're middle age than when they were young. Very few are able to keep their attractiveness in their older age, but that's true for both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 08:41 AM
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Huh? I thought that men have this intrinsic drive to provide, protect, etc? I'm pretty sure I read that several times here. If men and women are different, why would men's natural inclinations change? Or do you think that a man's action is always just a reaction to a woman's action?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:54 AM
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Yeah, personally I'm weirded out by the whole "don't ever approach a woman" thing online. Never experienced such discussions IRL. Caveat, I'm in my 30s and not from the US, so maybe that's why. But personally I was never really weirded out or scared or super annoyed with cold approaches. Granted, they are not very common in my country in the first place, because that's just not really how people tick here. But whenever it happened to me, it was a normal/pleasant encounter even if I wasn't intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:46 PM
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I think a fairly high amount. As someone in an open relationship, who dived deep into the topic, my theory about (non) monogamy is the following: Monogamy is the norm/standard, but most people are not inherently monogamous. What I mean by that is that most people don't see being monogamous as something they need for/from themselves. Most people, when only thinking about their own person, can imagine loving/being with a person and still having sex with someone else without it changing anything ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:17 PM
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Yeah I agree. The most chaste women in the west are religious women. I've been in church for a few years as a teen/young adult before I left because I just didn't agree with it anymore. But I had a few fun years there and got to know people who actually grew up in the church environment. Those girls/young women would have never accepted a hedonistic, non-believing guy. I guess there are women who are less promiscuous than others, but if you're looking for an actual chaste/virgin woman, 99% or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:48 PM
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I think one needs to see it on an individual level of why one parent might 'prevent' the other from contact with the child. I agree that there are too many women who use their children to spite their ex. But I think in general, situations are mostly way more complicated. As an anecdote, a male family member of mine had a relationship with a woman, they separated at some point but got together again, which I personally thought was already a bad idea. Then she got pregnant and he married her 'to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:04 AM
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I mean, yeah? I'm in my thirties now but I remember in-depth sex talks when I was younger and they're still happening now from time to time in a group of tipsy friends. Is it normal for you to have very thorough sex talks with your friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:58 PM
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Eh, I don't really care one way or the other. For me it seems to be a very specific case of asexuality. Very rare, as asexual people are rare in general, but if someone says that's how they work, who am I to tell them differently? I can't look into their brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:53 PM
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Really? I never met such a person. I obviously know people who only have sex with an established romantic connection but I don't know anyone who walks around basically asexual until they establish some kind of romantic connections. I honestly wouldn't even know how that works. I think the norm is a first sexual attraction based on physical features and when that is recognized, there's potential for romantic feelings to grow. I can separate sexual attraction from romantic feelings but not the oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:50 PM
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I always thought that demisexual means that you CAN'T feel sexual attraction if there is no connection, not simply choosing to wait for sex until a connection is established.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:00 AM
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I think it's due to those different waves of feminism. I'm not too educated in the whole history of feminism but for example, if you speak to someone who identifies with 2nd wave feminism, it's quite different from third wave. I think the third wave is liberal feminism, right? 2nd wave feminists are not too fond of liberal feminists. IIRC, 2nd wave feminists see feminism on a structural level, while liberal feminism is more about the individual level (like, as long as you think that women should…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 10:13 PM
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If by "this is because of feminism" you mean that women aren't forced to get with men they don't want to due to economic reasons, then sure. I also don't think that my statement is blackpilled. There have always been people who are not successful in getting into romantic relationships. Be it due to appearances, personalities or just back luck because they never met the people who would have been a good fit. The precise reason can only be guessed on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:03 PM
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I think there's definitely a limit to self-improvement. I also don't think that a man has to improve in general if he doesn't want to or that women are entitled to their improvement. I mean yes, in a general way, if your goal is to find a partner and there are things that are currently preventing you from finding someone, then it makes sense to work on those if possible. But it should also be something you actually want or at least consider worth doing. But that's beside the point. For some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:36 AM
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Just today I saw an article on Reddit about a child bride of 8 years succumbing to internal bleedings inflicted on her on her wedding night. So idk, seems like raping children is still A-OK in some parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:55 PM

Yes, that can absolutely happen. If the romantic feelings are one sided and both people are mature they can decide if it's okay to continue the plstonic friendship, to hit pause for a while so that the romantic interested part has time to work on letting those feelings go and step back in to the platonic friendship if that's what both want. Or they decide that it's better for all involved to part ways indefinitely. For young people without a lot of life and romantic experience it can be hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:51 PM
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Almost everyone wants financial security and there's nothing wrong about it. The best way to be financially secure though is to always rely on yourself. You don't even have to think about separation, it may bery well happen that your partner loses their job or get ill/injured in a way to never being able to work. What are you doing then? In an ideal situation, both partners would be able to support the other indefinitely in a calamity. As this is oftentimes unrealistic nowadays, the second best …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:19 AM
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I think I agree with your second point. When I started dating my partner, he just got out of a relationship and moved into his own apartment and furnished it. He bought a couch and we were using it for the last 11 years. We sleep separately because of his snoring, so he sleeps on the couch and prefers it to the bed. I wanted a new couch because the side he was sleeping on was already coming undone. You could cover it with a blanket and we did, but at some point I got annoyed and just wanted some…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:04 AM

I don't care about insecurities, for me it's a purely aesthetic thing. Shaved head, great, I actually find that quite sexy on some guys when they have the right head shape. Rocking a well fitting toupee? Awesome, there are so many great choice at this point, invest into a great product, let the toupee people help you find what's working best for you. Walking around like George Costanza? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:56 AM

If that's the case, why would women want to be 'marriage material' for such dudes? If that's their opinion then good riddance. There's nothing embarrassing about wanting nothing to do with such men. I honestly don't see the issue here, if men are leaving western women en masse to find non-western women, then good for them? I know I wouldn't be happy with such a man, he wouldn't be happy with me, so where's the loss? Why are the wishes of those men the standard women have to orient themselves in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 10:43 AM
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I always thought demisexual means that you genuinely can't feel sexual attraction until you know someone better. That's different from just refraining to have sex until you get to know them better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:30 PM

Yeah, I find it hard to answer. I guess there are some bare minimums (minimi?) that most people can agree upon, but that doesn't change that every person has some non-negotiable expectations that differ from person to person. And if it's non-negotiable to you, then it's automatically bare minimum to you as well, no? Like, this specific time is so important that a partner as a minimum has to have this quality. And so it becomes highly subjective again. Like, my partner and I are both highly indiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:18 AM
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I agree. I mean, there's a reason that some people are serial monogamists and that other people cheat. The thrill of something new is just that good. Especially when there's real chemistry. Doesn't mean you have to chase it necessarily, but when you're experienced it, NRE is quite the high.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:42 PM
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No, I think the point is exactly that you could get married to and pregnant by the average Joe but that for single childfree women this is simply not worth it. So when they compare the average single life and the average married with kids life, they decide that they're more happy with the average single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:11 AM
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If such a life seems boring to you and having a family is more appealing, then go for it. People are different. I'm basically living the life you've described just with books and reddit instead of Netflix and I'm not single. But I'm living my life for many years now and I'm still not bored. I love being able to travel and to have the funds for it. I love looking after my pets instead of children. I love being more flexible and to be able to just do nothing instead of having to handle children. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 10:05 AM
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Exactly. I'm not single but childfree. I don't mind the occasional babysitting gig for friends and family but it's not something I'm seeking out actively. I mean, a few outings with my godson here and there yes, but it's not a regular activity and I don't plan on making it one. I don't hate spending time with kids and I love babies, but if I had a constant urge to surround myself with children, I'd have my own already years ago. There's a reason why people deliberately choose not to become paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:49 AM
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Are you happy in your relationship? You're saying you're with a red pill man and that it's tough for the people around the red pill person, that the ideology is selfish and serves the individual red pill man and that the individual red pill man does not care about the feelings of others. Is your relationship purely materialistic/transactional? Personally I could not be with someone who thinks like that. In my relationship I put my SO first and I know that he puts me first. Based on our love for …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:21 AM
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I agree completely. If it was only about self improvement for the sake of it, nobody would have an issue with it. I mean, I DON'T have an issue if you decide to work out, work on your social skills, etc. That's awesome and good for you and I admire your discipline! But the attitude around it, the twisting of things so that they suit their ideology, the assignment of specific intent to behavior, the typical red pill interpretation of things in order to always paint women as these evil creatures o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:03 AM

You can be not fat and still think that weight is not something that should be important to a partner. Not that there's something wrong with having that preference, but maybe also thin women aren't interested in men who might leave them if they got fat and maybe they don't think that weight is something that they want do put active energy into to maintain. If being fit and thin is important, one should look for a partner for whom it's important as well and who for themselves think it's not accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 11:22 PM
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Maybe it's a cultural thing? I've never had issues when approaching a guy. They were either pleasantly surprised or very kind in their rejection. It never lead to an unsafe outcome. I was never humiliated nor strung along. If it didn't work out it was due to not fitting personalities. Idk, maybe it's different in the US but here in Germany it has always been quite straight forward. Maybe I was just lucky in not approaching assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:54 AM
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I honestly don't get that. When I first met my partner he was still in a relationship with his ex so I obviously didn't show my interest in him in that way, I just enjoyed his company in a broader circle of friends because I genuinely liked him as a human being. When he split up from his ex I would have asked him out upon learning about his newly single status if he didn't made his move first. Apparently he was interested in me and I didn't know that and his relationship was going bad for a long…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:49 AM
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Don't know what to tell you. I'm registered on the biggest erotic website in my country. It's a mix of a dating site, sexual education, discussion forum, the place to find swinger events, etc. There are whole groups dedicated to MMF and most of the interested men are hetero. It is very easy to find interested men and some of them are already in a "team" and offer their services to interested women. Not like prostitution, just private fun between interested people. I've had a MMF with two guys wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:20 AM
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I mean it's understandable if you're looking for a relationship and have been rejected by women for being bi, which is bullshit in my opinion. For MMF I don't associate it with humility at all, at least not for what I would want. It's really just about three people finding each other attractive having sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:19 AM
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They're very hard to find tbh. And of course the physical attraction needs to be there. I'm actually looking for two bi guys to fulfill a MMF fantasy and let me tell you, way easier to find hetero men for that than bi guys. I'd love to be in the middle of some man on man action. Alas, no luck so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:03 AM
1

Tell me you're reading Reverse Harem novels without telling me you're reading Reverse Harem novels. Same sis, same. I also have this fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:00 AM
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Eh, I'd want my own harem, thank you very much. So I'll pass on the polygamy. Nothing against multiple sexual partners btw, just no interest in sharing romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:58 AM
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It's more about objective beautify (if we can say that exists, let's just say there are qualities that tend to be labeled as beautiful by a majority of people) versus subjective priorities. My SO and I are in our 30s. We're not 'old' old, but we obviously don't have the bodies of our 20s anymore. We still find younger people attractive, although that also has a cutoff date. 18 year old guys look like babies to me, plus pure external beauty is simply not enough for actual sexual attraction to me,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:18 AM
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That seems quite gender independent, no? I wouldn't want to be with a man who is complaining all the time about everything either. But I don't really see how being independent falls into that. I say I'm independent because literally what I am. I make my own money, I contribute to our household just as much or more as my partner. We 'depend' on each other with small bits. Can you do the grocery shopping? Can you feed the animals, do the laundry, etc? But that's just normal relationship stuff. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:48 PM
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I think almost everyone does, no? They are fucking creepy and predatory. They are very well.aware that their 20 year old toyboy is not actually in love with their 50 year old ass. I don't have sympathy for them when they cry after a few years that their toyboy divorced (and/or cheated on) them. They knew exactly what they were doing, they're not the victims when they use their money to lure young men into transactional relationships because lord knows those guys don't actually want to fuck those…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:27 PM
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No, I see it the same as I see prostitution - understandable from the sex worker POV, but I still side eye the costumers. Same with passport bros or 50 year old women who fly to Jamaica to get themselves a 20 year old toyboy (and even marry him). I understand the decisions or POV to see it as an opportunity for a better life in a different country. Doesn't mean that I won't judge the Western person who uses their money and status/citizenship as a selling point for a real with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:21 PM
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It's true that the educational system is oftentimes as good or better for some professions as in Western countries, but in the end what's important is if the degrees and work experiences are recognized in the new country. I'm from Germany, after the fall of the Soviet Union we had a lot of people immigrating to Germany, my family included. You had doctors who were now working manual labor jobs, oftentimes illegally, because Germany simply wouldn't recognize their degrees. My highschool physics t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:13 PM
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Women absolutely say "that's why you don't date fuckbois". Personally, I don't even believe in "given chances", this is just the wording I read here all the time and thus adopted it. I don't think that anyone should date someone they're not attracted to, but maybe the woman in the story was actually attracted but then found out during the relationship why that guy was never in a relationship until 46. It seems that other women gathered his character earlier than that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:23 PM
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If a woman says she love you, how do you know it's true if not through actions? My SO show our love for each other through actions in addition to just saying it. We both work in order to fulfill our financial responsibilities and to not burden the other with the full responsibility of our household costs. We do nice things for each other, be it big things like paying for a vacation or just feeding each other. We are sociable with each other's friends and families and go to important events even …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:44 PM
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Yeah that thing about the prize is weird. I never saw myself as a prize, simply a human, a woman with positive and negative traits who could have a great romantic relationship with one man and a bad one with another. I would feel very nervous being with a man who saw me as a prize to win, as I would always be afraid to not live up to expectations about that flawless being he made me out to be in his head. I certainly have my strengths, but I still made and make mistakes in my relationship that I…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:22 PM
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It's funny that you mentioned Düsseldorf as this city is actually known for it's rich, entitled residents. If you think that the people in Düsseldorf are more humble than the average American, I'm honestly concerned about your country.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:10 PM
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Even if that was the case, how did it work out for him? Still couldn't keep the only woman who gave him a chance. I guess MGTOW is the next chapter in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:58 PM
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I think those are oftentimes the same. Online spewing red pill shit while portraying themselves as nice guys irl until the mask slips.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:55 PM
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You have never heard of a sober ons? People arrange meetings on apps everyday and drive sober to meet other sober people to fuck soberly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:10 AM
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That dude never had a relationship until he was 46. It seems more that he was the typical "Nice Guy" women are constantly told to give a chance. Well, one woman did, and that's result.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:03 AM
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I honestly don't see it, at least in my country. Even women who stay at home for a few years before the kids go to nursery school or kindergarten don't really enjoy being financially dependent on their husbands. I mean they do trust their men to be the sole provider during maternity leave but I don't know any woman in my generation who chooses to be financially dependent indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:25 AM
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I wanted to have sex and suck dick before I tried it so I did it. I do not want to be spit at so I don't. I bet you can find things that you don't want to try because you already know you won't like it, sexual or not. Ever had a MFM threesome with your wife and another guy and watched him fuck her? No? How do you know you won't like it if you don't try it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:18 PM

Huh? That's interesting. Isn't it like one of the top 5 complaints of men in this sub about women that they're fat and lazy and need to maintain a desirable body in order to attract and keep men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 04:26 PM
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Yeah I feel the same. Like, if my sister told me she was raped, I would believe her. If someone accused my SO of rape, I would believe him. If my sister accused my SO of rape I would have a mental breakdown without the ability to cope. I think that's pretty normal 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:18 PM
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It's as if you're looking into my brain, I had exactly the same thought process. I agree completely, it depends on my relative with the victim/accused. I agree that it's just natural, we all have out biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 09:36 AM
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I don't think that asking for advice per sé is wrong, but I don't think it's best to ask strangers for it who don't actually know you and whom you don't know. Take the examples you've given - I don't know shit about fashion (for women or men - I recently bought a practical jacket and my parents make fun of me that I look like a gulag prisoner in it) or hairstyles. If you show me pictures I can point out what I like and what not but then again, something can look good on one person and rubbish on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 05:28 AM
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I never figured it out until I discovered the shower head and later in vibrators. We did talk about masturbation among girls and I experimented, but nothing worked what other girls were telling me. I think my clit is just very non-sensitive so all of that light stroking and what not never did it for me, later on the same with oral sex. I had my first orgasm as a teen when I thought about putting the shower head into massage mode. That concentrated strong water jet actually finally provided enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:46 PM
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It's one thing to not know. It's another thing to make bullshit claims based on his ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:18 AM
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There are men who have sex without actually having an othasm, they still enjoy sex. Women bodies are different and achieving an orgasm can be more tricky for us, that's true. That doesn't mean that it's impossible nor that one can't enjoy sex without having an orgasm. My dude, women organize whole sex/swinger events where I'm from, have you actually watched a woman or several women live having sex? Because I have and I participated. Nobody would do that if they weren't interested in sex or not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:15 AM
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Ah yes, no true Scotsmanning things again. "No man wants a single mom" "Please see here all of the men who have no problem with being with a single mom and loving them" "Oh no, you see, those aren't TRUE men, those are simps, they don't count" Very sincere way to debate your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:41 AM
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Guys in their 30s/40s are oftentimes divorced with kids as well. A family member of mine actually had exactly that experience. Going through divorce with a man who made her life hell (cheating, drugs, keeping her under his thumb - girls, never ever get pregnant by a US soldier, marry him and follow him to the states, they're not sending their best!) with four kids, she simply tried to keep a roof over her kids' heads. She got a job in a hospital as a cleaner and swear to god this cute doctor sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 06:38 AM
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Yeah, thought the same. I'm in a ltr, over a decade now, and both of us wanted a bit more variety. He's currently out on a date with his fwb and I'm happy for him to have other connections, as he's happy for me as well. Nothing has changed about our relationship, though. We're just as committed to each other and continue to share our responsibilities the same way we did when we were monogamous. I'm not saying that that's a model that suits everyone, it most definitely doesn't, but saying that be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:21 PM
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To me it looks like an online epidemic. I honestly don't see that IRL. I even have a bunch of Zillenial/Gen Z nieces and nephews, all of them in LTR or already married with kids, most of them together with their SOs since late teenage years. And we're definitely not a churchy/religious family. If anything I would say that this younger generation is doing better than my own generation in the familiy, us Millenial cousins, where it's about 50:50 with successful relationships/marriages. So I'm not …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:34 PM
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Yep. I'm not interested in a traditional relationship because I think it's bad for me AND my partner and my partner agrees. Because I have my own career, I can step up financially for our household when needed, which can happen at any time for someone self-employed. It's a relief for my SO to know that in every day life I can contribute my own half to our expanses and in tough times I can shoulder his stuff for our private life as well when he needs to concentrate on keeping money in the busines…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 01:28 PM
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Age gap in itself isn't an issue, just when it comes to how old the younger person actually is and how much older the older part is in comparison. I'm 35 now, if I started dating a 50 year old men, family and friends might think it's a bit unusual and might warn me about older age issues, but they would not be concerned about me being taken advantage of and manipulated due to my young age and inexperience. It would have been completely different if I tried to date a 35 year old guy when I was 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 12:45 PM
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If your gf only doesn't cheat on you because lack of opportunity she's not really interested in being faithful to you in the first place, no? Like where do you draw the line for how much risk of opportunity you're okay living with? Like, going on vacation is a risk but going shopping alone isn't? If you knew that your gf would grab the opportunity to cheat while going shopping alone, would you forbid her from going shopping alone or simply end things? What would be the difference for vacation vs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 11:14 PM
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Swinging doesn't have anything to do with stripclubs. I go to swinger events, nobody gets paid to do sex work there, people go because they want to fuck, not to earn some coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:56 PM
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Yeah I agree. I'm also not a fan of wording things like "letting your partner do xyz". Adult people are autonomous. I don't "let" my partner do anything, he decides what he is going to do and I decide what I'm going to do. You can set boundaries for yourself but not rules for others. If you're not okay with your partner going partying, don't be with someone who wants to go partying. Your action is being or not being with someone based on your own requirements. Your action is not allowing or forb…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:53 PM
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Men in the SU after WWII were a rare commodity. You could see beautiful women with trolls, simply because there weren't many options. My grandfather was already a widower with a small child when he married my grandmother. She wouldn't settled with a widowed father if she had more optoins.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:00 PM
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Yeah exactly. I don't wear makeup in everyday life because it's annoying to put on and then remove again. I do wear it when going out because I know it enhaces my features and I feel good looking. How do I know that I can feel good looking? Positive feedback from others. I know that I have a nice face. But how would I know that having big eyes, long lashes, a straight nose and full lips is deemed attractive when it wouldn't be for the positive resonance of others? Granted, there ARE women who re…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:27 PM
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The woman in the video? Totally unhinged. Nobody forces her to use exclusively brand products. They're mostly not worth the money anyway. I use some very specific things like a mascara I like very much from a brand that's a bit pricier than drugstore stuff, but nobody NEEDS everything from Dior. And even if she enjoys that stuff, that's her own hobby. Should a man demand a woman always has to pay on the first date because he bought a pricy car with which he picks her up for the date? Or let's sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:15 PM
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I love 50s style clothing, I have several dresses in that style. They're elegant and sexy and I feel great wearing them. But the whole ideology of those tradwives? Yeah no thanks. I'd rather wear my 50s dress to the office and make money, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:05 PM
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With booktook it's at least known that it's pure fantasy. Would I want to have a harem of men who are all hot but different from one another, all hopelessly in love with me and dedicated to give me the best life possible and as many orgasms as I desire? Sure. Do I think it's realistic? Nope. With these tradwife accounts they portrait an idealistic view of a time in history that actually happened (even if it was a anomaly) and make it seem realistic enough to be attainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:02 PM
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But these men are still the same men who want both casual sex and commitment at some point. How can you logically divide women into two categories while maintain that you're part of both categories yourself? If women are either only good for casual sex or good for a relationship then so are men and men who engage in casual sex shouldn't feel entitled to commitment. Personally I think it's rubbish all around and the same person who fucks around can be very capable of having a logterm relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:45 PM

I think this sub sometimes brings out the worst in us. In real life I don't even engange in any debates about the sexes, I'm not a man-hating super feminist, I'm in a loving LTR and have great male friends that I cherish very much. And I come here and read the most asinine slander of my sex and it's like a hit to the head. You can only consume it in doses and have to reassure yourself with your real life connections that men in general don't hate your sex as a principal, otherwise you'd just get…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:37 AM
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Well yeah, I'm from a predominantly white country 🤷‍♀️ The dude was partially non-white, though, dad is Latino I think. But yeah, definitely not usual for my country. I was reminded of this actor, Nestor Carbonell (just for the eyes, though), who also has lashes that make him look like he's wearing eyeliner. Super sexy, not common in my country for the average man. Could also not really be seen on the dude's profile pics, needed to be observed live.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:39 PM
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Agree with you. Just recently we talked about our late dog, who passed away more than a year ago. The thought of the dog, watching videos made my partner cry. What horrible person would I be if my SO showing emotions, being 'weak' would give me the ick or made me lose respect for him? Some takes here are truly insane and I really hope that people with those takes experience a truly loving reality at some point because going through life like that is just sad. Everyone has insecurities and weak m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 07:00 AM
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Yeah, I think that's a sane take. I would consider myself a feminist, I don't have a general dislike for men. I know a bunch of lovely men and go on enough dates to know that on average men are just people, decent enough, just like women. But I'm also dating in the West, don't know how I would feel like if I lived in a conservative place. Most men I know would agree with the general feminist takes. Of course it can take just one very bad experience in order to make me more cautious or distrustfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 06:43 AM
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It is very hard to arouse insta lust through pictures. I'll give you a real life example: I visited a swinger party, met a man who was beautiful. Beautiful eyes with lashes so thick it looked like he was using eye liner, full lips, killer smile and a great strong body. I was instantly sexually attracted to him. We then connected through the swinger website with each other to stay in contact, I've looked through his pictures and while they're nice and flattering, you just wouldn't feel that insta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 05:37 AM
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Idk, there are definitely men who are not attracted to me because I'm not fit and slim, which is totally okay. I'm overweight and in that regard definitely nearer to a 'landwhale' than to a slim woman. To have an 'ideal' weight I would probably need to lose more than 20 kg, which isn't a little. Of course there are women who are even heavier but I've also seen those women attract suitors. Again, I'm not saying that all men or even a majority find fat women attractive but there are so many that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:29 PM

I disagree with number 4. I've met countless of dudes who I should want to be with on paper. Good looking, funny, kind, being able to hold a conversation, flirty enough to not be bland...but there was just no chemistry and sexual appeal. I can find a man handsome or even beautiful and still not feel sexually attracted to him and there's literally no reason at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:04 PM
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I am being told that I'm curvy. I definitely think I could lose some weight, definitely on the heavier side (169 cm tall, 93-94 kg, no idea what's that in freedom units) but so far men have really enjoyed grabbing my stuff. I can say that I do have a pretty face, though, so that probably helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:59 PM
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How can you not see that this is just your opinion? Attractiveness is inherently subjective. I don't find men with red hair attractive. That doesn't mean that I can claim that they're objectively unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:46 PM
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You again try to state your own subjective preference as an objective fact 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:38 PM
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That's just your own preference, though. I'm a plus size woman and have no issue attracting men who prefer my bodyform to others 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:30 PM
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I've never tried letting a man spit into my mouth during sex because I find it gross. I don't need to try it out to know that I find it gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 05:31 PM
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Eh, for me it's the negative twist about everything and not believing women but having to put their own interpretation on everything that puts women in a negative, immoral place. Take AF/BB as an example. Women AND men (as a generalisation) like to date around in their youth, not think about longterm goals for partnerships because they don't even know yet what those are, they make their experiences and learn through them what they actually want. They date some idiotic dudes or insane girls, shif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:58 PM

Then so is everyone who has requirements for a SO, be it money, BMI or culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:25 PM

Personally I don't care as much for a man's income, I had a well paying job myself. But, even if a woman is looking for a rich husband it doesn't automatically mean that she would be ok to settle for only that. Not that it doesn't happen, it definitely does. But you can just as much fall in love with a rich person just as with a poor person, you just choose to limit your dating pool. There are people who only date blondes or only goths - doesn't mean that that attribute would be enough on its ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:47 PM
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I mean, yeah, but it's still a funny imagine. Woman riding a polar bear into battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:54 AM
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Do you think it has to do with her skin color? I think she could be irish white but with those facial attributes, people would still be put off. For me it's simply the eyes, they're too far away from each other, giving her a slightly alien look. Everything else looks completely fine, she has a cute nose and nice lips. But with the eyes it looks like those filters where one side of the face is duplicated and put over the other side, the face is now symmetrical but looks weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:37 AM
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I think you're right. It's easier for me to pinpoint what I definitely do not like (long hair on men, red hair on men) than what I do like because I find all kinds of men attractive. I discovered only one 'type' of man that would have a slightly higher chance with me, which is a bald man, and even then I still need to like the face and body, I just discovered that I really like the bald look. I think I only know of one guy who consistently dates a particular kind of woman - petite, slim, blonde.…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 06:10 AM
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Thanks for the laugh in the morning. I'm picturing the LOST island and the woman befriending the random polar bear, letting him loose on the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:43 AM
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Idk dude, together for over a decade, still in love, open relationship for about two years now, works fine so far. That being said, we are not one of the couples that opened up the relationship because we were struggling. We had some really shitty years and it would have not been wise to open during that time. It was also never really a goal to open up, we simply worked on communication, harmony, etc. and the ability to be able to open up was simply kind of a by-product from achieving security i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:22 AM
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It's a more or less superficial non-escalation relationship. I'm currently in the development of a fwb/fuckbuddy arrangement. We like each other as persons and are attracted to each other but no one is interested in anything more. On my side because I'm in a (open) relationship and we're not poly, just open. The fwb has a lot going on and is not interested in investing into a serious relationship at the moment. The arrangement suits us both and nobody has to lie about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:11 AM

I didn't really have sex in college besides one ONS with a fellow student whom I've known for a year already by that point. However, my ability to hook up (without actively looking for it) were way higher in college than now. We were going out almost every week and the opportunity by accident, so to speak, was always there. That's why it's easier in college. Of course now with dating apps you can look for a hookup as well, but that is now an active choice and pursuit. In college, you didn't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:21 AM
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Yeah I wonder the same. I go out into the world and see most women, especially those who aren't 20 anymore, without makeup all the time. Who actually thinks that a woman with three kids is going to put on makeup to go grocery shopping? I wear makeup on days I can be arsed to drive to the office (and even then not always and I see colleagues without makeup all the time) or for special occasions/going out. Who actually has the time or energy for makeup everday?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 05:32 AM

I think we're kind of misunderstanding each other. It was said: SDE isn't about actually having a small dick, but about insecurities. In my opinion it also shows that it's more about character/behaviour, as the insult is "small dick ENERGY", not simply "small dick". In that, the actual dick size isn't even of interest here, as the premise is basically: a lot of men who have a small penis act in a particular negative way (which is of course debatable), ergo men who show signs of that particular n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:30 PM

I...guess? But we were specifically talking about "slut" and "whore" and those insults, in my opinion, are used completely independently from the actual sexual behavior of the insulted woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:35 PM

I mean, yeah? Women are called sluts and whores when they reject men simply for the rejection, while those men don't even know if that woman fucks anyone at all. I don't perceive those insults at all as something that is based on the original definition of that words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 07:23 PM
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That's like...a very specific preference/requirement you have there, but if it works for you then go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 09:06 PM
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I can't cook for shit but if I didn't do the vacation planning we would either not go at all or if we actually went on vacation, never leave the hotel room except for getting food. Which can be nice occasionally as well, but I don't need that on every vacation. I would actually love it if my partner planned some tour or something like that at the vacation spot, but he simply can't be arsed to do so. I don't think that people who handle the planning of stuff really want control, it's just that if…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:52 PM
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It's the "No true Scotman" argument. It's cheap and you can't really say anything to that, how would you even do that? "Man think like this" "Hey, I'm a man and I don't think like this" "You're not a REAL man, so you don't count" Well okay then. Had this stuff happen to me here just yesterday. It's lazy and shows bad faith. I stopped responding to the other guy's replys at some point because I was shown once again that it's simply not worth it. Take the stuff here as entertainment as God intende…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:37 AM
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Yep that's true and even offline, I believe it's possible but at least in my own experience it's very rare. It happened to me only one time. It was a friend of our friends, big guy and definitely heavily overweight. Didn't find him attractive at all, but he was nice, so whatever. Turns out the guy is hilarious, always joking, making you laugh so hard you're crying. So i guess because of that base of a great personality I also started noticing physical features beyond the weight, found he actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 06:11 AM
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Hey, you seem to have a working crystal ball! Do you mind letting me now the lotto numbers of next week? You speak with so much conviction about things you shouldn't have any knowledge about, surely you can use your powers to help a redditor out, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:07 PM
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You provide no proof at all that your opinion is right. It's just that, YOUR opinion, not a fact. Also, I actually DO know more about open relationships than you as I'm actually living it! Oh, but I forgot, I'm just a lying woman, so you don't have to take anything serious that I'm saying, right? Of course, your opinion is logical, mine is emotional, and even if I speak from experience you dismiss it. And of course you're "no true scotsman"ing in your argumentation, how predictable. If a man act…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 02:04 PM
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Yeah, I guess that would be annoying. I am very honest in that I'm not a good housewife, but my partner is the same, we don't see it as a gendered issue and just outsource as much as possible. But I agree that if you want to receive traditional treatment you have to give traditional treatment. Personally I think that living a consistent traditional role for a woman would not benefit me in the long run, so I don't expect my partner to be traditional as well. Of course it's still nice to receive t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:56 PM
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You are seriously not seeing what I'm telling you the whole time you're doing, huh? How can you not see that you're completely unwilling to see anything from a different perspective. What kind of hybris does one has to have in order to be so sure that one's opinion is the only valid one? Like, does it honestly not occur to you that I, someone who is with my partner for over a decade, may have a better knowledge of what my partner is thinking than you, an Internet stranger? But no, because YOU ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:23 PM
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He is self-employed, that's just the way it is. Also we are childfree, not every relationship is for the purpose of producing children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:09 PM
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It's strange to me as well. But I'm also half Russian and my Russian family would be appalled to know that men in Germany don't always pay on dates. When I "dated" my teenage summer love in Russia, he always insisted on paying because that's apparently the manly thing to do. That being said, I definitely rather pay for my own shit than ending up in a Russian marriage. I mean, times are changing in Russia as well, but not so much yet for Millenials, my generation. The guy may pay on dates and cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:07 PM
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I don't know what it would be like if I were single and actually looking for something serious instead of just a fwb. I do think that I would be able to find a fitting relationship eventually but it's definitely way easier to just find sex. Even something more consistent isn't that easy to find. Being in an open relationship I actually envy my partner, as he has what I'm interested in: lovely fwb with whom he also can have fun outside of the bedroom. I honestly think I'm completely average, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:01 PM
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I guess it's maybe also a cultural thing, I'm from Germany and here it's normal that people pay for themselves. However, when my partner and I started dating, I was still studying and he was already working, I had a part-time job and could have paid for myself no problem, especially because we didn't anticipate our dating to end up in a serious relationship. But he insisted and it was useless fighting him on it, I think, for him it's also something that he just really enjoys doing. He always jok…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:44 PM
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Oh my god. It was my partner who initially came up with the idea of an open relationship and it was me who needed time to get accustomed to that idea. We are very happy with the arrangement now, he has no problems attracting women because he doesn't hate them, and he is happy with his fwb arrangements he has and the occasional ONS. If he wanted to, he could break up with me and be in a new relationship tomorrow because he's actually likeable and charming. I'm also not a parasite as I am contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:32 PM
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Dude, I'm simply not interested in going thtough that wall of text step by step, which wouldn't change anything anyway. You're not interested in seeing anything from a different perspective. I don't know how old you are or what your actual life and relationship experience is but speaking as someone in her 30s who's been in a relationship for over a decade, I can tell you that you're just wrong and incredibly spiteful. I'm not even saying that as some kind of personal atrack, it's more that your …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:13 PM
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Jesus dude, you're simply viewing women through such a negative lense, there really is no helping you. And women DO like variety, we are human, just like men. You simply have your fixed perspective, interpret and view everything in the most negative point of view in regards to women and neutral or positive when it comes to men. Good luck finding a happy relationship I guess, but ime the men who are successful and in happy relationships are not the ones with such a warped view on women. You sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:50 AM
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I think it depends on where exactly you are in your physical exploration. E.g. when it comes to the first kiss, I think non-verbal consent is very fine, although I also don't mind a "I would really like to kiss you right now, may I?" But if e.g. you're in the middle of fucking and you want to spit into her mouth? (Not my kink, but some people like it) then yes, absolutely please get consent beforehand. A fwb of mine wanted to do that and thank God he asked, I denied as it's a real turn-off for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 11:37 AM
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Is it so hard to understand that there are women who, just as men, simply enjoy variety and NSA sex? I'm sure you can imagine for yourself that you can have sexual encounters / fwb arrangements with different women and then also meeting someone you actually fall in love with and want to be with exclusively. It's the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:53 AM
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Why does it have to be one or the other? A lot of people are perfectly able to enjoy variety in sex with different people and then still end up in a stable ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:43 AM
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Are you saying male promiscuity is like self defense while female promiscuity is like murder? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:41 AM
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And most women, independent of their past, somewhat agree that it's better to be single than being with a man who has those kinds of opinions 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:39 AM
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Honestly, I don't believe in that stuff nor do I think that actually most men do. However, even if that was the case, women are simply not interested in men that think like that. I would be miserable with a man like you, no matter my body count. I'm in a somewhat unique position of actually having lived both things, getting together young with my partner with a low body count and then increasing the body count after opening up the relationship. So from my own experience I can absolutely say that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 08:36 AM
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Honestly, I am always super confused by very young guys who want to get with a much older woman. I'm 35, not looking for something serious, but I'm like -10/+10 years is fine, so guys from 25-45, and I mostly get with guys in my own age bracket as that's what I'm most comfortable with, even if there were exceptions. But there are sooo many really young guys, who are like 20 years old, who for whatever reason find the idea of a woman in her 30s sexually appealing. When I receive a message from so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:47 AM
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If you find women in their 30s attractive but don't want to settle down, for this age bracket you should look for women in open relationships. I assume that you would also like to have nice conversations, etc. with a date, someone relatable, so a woman in your age bracket might be more suitable, but then you shouldn't look for someone who is single and ready to settle down. I'm in an established LTR, my partner and I simply like sexual variety and like meeting new people, flirting, etc. So we've…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:28 AM
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I can see that. Army dudes and church boys are also the exact type of guys I would avoide for a serious relationship. I mean, I'm an outlier anyways as I have a childfree, hedonistic relationship with complete independence so I guess I would be a nightmare of a partner for those kind of guys anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:12 AM
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Personally, I get a great satisfaction out of paying on a first date. I'm by no means a masculine/dominant woman, but I like to treat people to something, I worked hard to get to my well paying job and I like to use the benefits of that. Most men are surprised and try to "fight" me on it but most of the time I insist, especially if I want to see them again. I then just tell them that they can pay next time. If I'm not really interested in a second date and the guy really insist on paying, I just…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:07 AM
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Eh, I think it's most a fantasy/sex thing. Being dominated in bed is a huge turn-on for a lot of women but in every day life it's just horrific and exhausting. In every day life it is shown in being controlling, paranoid and jealous. I have an older family member who deals with such a spouse for over 40 years now. Super possesive while he had his affairs, stalking her at work, following her around, forbidding her from meeting friends. If she came home 10 minutes later than usual, he already accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:56 AM
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I never understood that bill paying stuff. I make more than my partner, but I also have a corporate career while he is self-employed in an industry that get's more difficult for earning every day. He works way more hours than me. Neither of us are clean freaks and we outsource what we can, but I would never hold it over his head that he has to do more chores if I contribute more financially. Our free time is what is important for the sustainability of the relationship, so if I have more time, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:39 AM
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That just sounds exhausting. I honestly don't even know a man who explicitly likes something like that or any women who act like that. I guess it's good if those kind of people find each other but I do wonder how sustainable such a relationship really is. I guess I just can't wrap my mind around it that there are people, no matter the gender, who don't want to feel proud of their own accomplishments and independence. I was raised by both my parents to be able to rely on myself financially, for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:27 AM

Lol I'd want both? My partner shows me his love through his actions and I appreciate it very much. He also tells me and/or texts me that he loves me everyday (sometimes even several times a day, if you can believe it) and I appreciate that as well and a random "I love you babe" message just gives fuzzy warm feelings, so why wouldn't I want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:37 PM

I mean, we say it every day to each other, but I never thought that it's because we "earned" it. Like, some days he's a real grumpy ass or annoying as hell, and surely hasn't "earned" it but I'm still saying it, simply because it's true and because I want him to always feel loved by me, no matter if he earned it or not. I'm pretty sure he feels the same towards me. I definitely don't earn his "I love you" everyday, but I still get the privilege to hear it everyday. That's because it's not someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:32 PM
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I mean, I hope not? Speaking as someone in an open relationship: my partner and I love each other very much. We say "I love you" every day, we are affectionate with each other, we worked hard on having great communication over the years, we give each other a lot of grace (that's primarily something that I needed to learn over the years and it brings so much harmony into the home) and although we are both very independent and individualistic people who need a lot of alone time, we still like spen…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:15 PM
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Idk if that's true. Personally most things that I post on SM are stupid memes that I find funny or touristy stuff when I travel. I've been in a LTR and would actually love to post more pics of/with my SO when we're out and about because he's great, funny, good looking and yeah, I love to show him off, sue me. The only reason that I don't is that he hates posting private pics on SM and doesn't want his pics out most of the time, which I respect, so I don't do it. You could think I was single with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:56 PM
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Maybe the wives in the East hide it better lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:44 PM
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Lol no dude. Even if she's a virgin, she will know that SOMETHING is wrong/isn't working and that get's frustrating over the years. When I had my first kiss, I had no experience whatsoever and still knew, that something isn't going right and I didn't enjoy it. Turned out the guy was just a really shitty kisser. The next guy I kissed was way better at it and I enjoyed it very much. If anything, she will endure the sex until they have one or two kids and then simply refuse further sex, which will …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:38 PM
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As a woman in the West (in a happy childfree LTR) I would never carry the child of someone who is not committed to me. But besides from that, I would definitely rather stay single than being forced to have sex with someone I am absolutely not attracted to. I honestly can't grasp that psycho way of thinking. Just the thought of having someone entering my body whom I don't want is nauseating. It doesn't matter if he's great on paper or even if he's a great guy, for sex there needs to be sexual att…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:25 PM
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As far as I understand "the ick", it's supposed to be an irrational reaction of feeling turned off a man for completely benign behavior, no? Going by this definition I can honestly say that I've never experienced it. There are obviously things that would turn me off a man, but those would be obvious behaviour that impacted me (or someone else) in a negative way, e.g. being rude to a waiter, trying to control what I'm wearing, etc. But things like "Oh my god, he used a straw to drink his drink, h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I never understood that, maybe it's just because I'm not in the US and work in the pharmaceutical industry here in my country but basically every role has its own specific salary that is set. There's no salary negotiation, at least not with the big companies. They offer you a salary and you take it or leave it. If you're not happy with the salary you would maybe negotiate for a higher role. That's what a former colleague of mine did with his new job. He applied for the same role he had in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:46 AM

That depends entirely on what the woman in question is looking for. I'm in a longterm open relationship, and as we are not poly, I date for fun. An ideal dating market for me would be men with no STDs, who get tested regularly, and who are transparent about their wants in regard to our connection. I like established fwb more than ons, but if it didn't click for you then no problem. But please just say so! In my dating experience that has been the one thing that's annoyed me, even though luckily …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:52 AM
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Yeah I wouldn't have lasted long as well, being ground down like that, there would be nothing left to last 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 02:58 PM
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No, the same standards don't apply to monogamous relationships. The whole premise of monogamy is exclusivity. But of course it's still the decision of the individual to enter a monogamous relationship, that also can't be enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:32 AM
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Let me rephrase it: it's immoral if you insist on it being one-sided forever. You can have an open relationship and one partner can choose to not having other connections for the time being or forever for various reasons. It's still an open relationship. As long as the option is there if the partner does decide to have other connections and you don't make a fuss about it, then everything is fine. But the decision to engage or not engage in other connections is something that can only ever be dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:32 AM
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Oof, I would immediately pity my lady bits if I ad to endure that. No matter how horny and lubricated you are, several times a day EVERY day will make you sore and thus sex unpleasant. Give your woman some recovery time geez.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:48 AM
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Yeah, one sided poly is just immoral if you want to forbid your partner to enjoy the same freedom that you want for yourself. My partner and I are not poly, but we do have an open relationship. We're not poly because we're not interested in other serious romantic relationships or escalation of connections to something serious. We are each other's only partner when it comes to presenting ourselves to family, friends and the world, and we're not interested in bringing anyone else into the mix. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:44 AM
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Huh, I'm pretty sure I've read here that women are bored faster sexually in a ltr and need novelty for an active libido. As a woman that always made sense to me. Generally, just from the physical/mechanical sides of things, sex is easier and more fulfilling in regards to orgasms for men than it is for women. A guy can generally be bored of his wife, but if he has the correct amount of friction, he can just close his eyes and think of the last porn star he watched, and he will still cum and thus …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:17 AM
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I think what they wanted to say is that women have way more opportunity to cheat than men, but statistically they ONLY cheat JUST as much as men, thus men are the more disloyal gender because if they had the same opportunities for cheating as women, they would be cheating way more. So the 50:50 in cheating isn't an indication that both genders are the same when it comes to cheating if you take those things into account: 1) women could be cheating way more than they statistically do, but the numb…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 06:04 AM
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Idk dude, are those women even open to a serious relationship and are looking for one? It doesn't even have to do anything with you. That would be the first thing to figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:14 AM
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Yeah, I never understood that wish, but I'm a woman, so what do I know? But I often tell my partner about things I read here from men and he is very baffled by it all. And I wouldn't describe him at all as this blue pill simp caricature that rp men like to paint men who don't agree with them. Then again, he also never had issues attracting women and does really experience sexual jealousy or insecurity, so maybe a man had to have specific experiences in life in order to hold opinions that are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:07 PM
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That's the one consistent fact I found to be true in my 8+ years here on reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:14 AM
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I guess it also depends on where you live? Idk, I don't really care, but in my area in my country, I haven't met an adult yet who still lived with their parents. I went on dates with a young woman in her mid 20s who was still going to university and only had a part-time job but even she lived on her own. On the other hand, I went on dates with guys in their 20s and 30s in the capital of a southern European country and everyone of them either lived with their parents or with roommates because hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 09:15 PM
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I am so sorry this happened to you. I hope you have support and can find the healing you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:49 PM
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That's what I was thinking. How insulting to have this opinion of men and nobody is saying anything? Idk about other women but although I never had issues in the dating world, I surely don't think that I have some kind of magical vagina with which I can condemn a man to his doom. Men are not brainless idiots who can be overpowered by a woman's sexuality. Some, maybe. But most? Certainly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:46 PM
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Oh I see. Yeah, if she was basically using you, then that's just a shitty thing to do, regardless of everything else. Although I personally think it is possible to remain platonic friends with former fwb, I do think it's okay to request to cease that contact for a monogamous relationship. Not my cup of tea, but also nothing outrageous. From what you're telling, she simply seems like a selfish person. It doesn't seem to me that it was anything about the lifestyle itself, she just has a shitty per…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:40 PM
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I do, if I had the personality for it, I would be one myself. Now, hedgefond managers on the other hand... 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:27 PM
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Yep, that's how I would describe my relationship. We are both highly individualistic and need a lot of personal time, so with give each other a lot of time and space. But we also exist very well with and beside each other, and when push comes to shove, we're always here for each other. I couldn't be with someone who is clingy and wants to spend 24/7 together. Others would love such an arrangement. I need my freedom and the ability to make my own decisions without running everything by my partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:21 PM
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Nope, but I wouldn't dismiss someone who advertises for the same industry I work at 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:16 PM
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Damn. I work in pharma. We actually work hard on our clinical trials to find solutions to help people with cancer, MS, etc. I'm actually quite proud of my work, even if I'm just a small piece of the puzzle and don't work with patients but with data. But still, it's really disheartening to hear how people hate your industry while also profiting from it like everyone else on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 12:10 PM
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I don't even know what that's supposed to mean? When I met my partner I didn't think about "is he worthy of me?" or something like that. I thought he was cute, handsome and had a great sense of humor and made me laugh and I liked spending time with him. He must have seen something in me as well as he liked spending time with me. From there it grew, going out on dates morphed into being in a relationship, and the decision of commitment lead to figuring out how to make the relationship work so tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:50 AM
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But don't you learn how to be in a relationship by being in one? Besides my "first big love" as a teenager, I've only been in one relationship - the one I'm currently in. I've met my partner in my 20s and over a decade later we're still together. I never even thought about relationships or "being relationship ready" or searching for a relationship before I got with my partner. I figured at some point I will probably stumble upon someone and fall in love (and vice versa) and the rest we will figu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:36 AM
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Possible. I'm only diving into the lifestyle right now but even before that, I didn't really think anything of it. Live and let live and all that, but I have assumed that every country must have some kind of sexual subculture going on, you just have to find your way into it. But now I've also heard that people outside of the country come here to participate as there's just no (big enough and organized?) scene in their own country. So I guess I'm luckily to live here in that regard. It's still no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:14 AM
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Or, you know, people just like to fuck and enjoy variety in their sex life 🤷‍♀️ I really can't say that anything about me or my character or my partner and his character changed after we've opened up our relationship. Well, maybe, that we communicate even better. But other than that, we're just the same, we just fuck other people on occasion. Still living together, committed to each other, share responsibilities and burdens, help with each other's families, share the good and the bad things in l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 11:07 AM
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Hm, it's possible she did the right thing. But from my own experience I know that it can be different. When I brought up opening our relationship, I was neither cheating, nor planning on cheating, nor did I even have someone in mind I wanted to be with besides my partner. It just was a topic that came up throughout the years but it was never a good time to try it, either because of us individually or because the relationship was not doing well and opening it up during a difficult time would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:58 AM
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Come to Germany, I'll take you to a swinger party and show you that's not true ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:43 AM
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What? The difference is informed consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:42 AM
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That would be the norm here in Germany. I guess we have a bigger, or at least more organized, swinger subculture than in other countries. As far as I can see, there are very few really young people (mostly single) who participate or stumble upon it, but generally I would say it's people from late 20s and up (open end age wise) who are part of the culture. There's a complete mixture. Average couples, super hot couples and single people, there are definitely events that you only get in if you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:31 AM
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I don't see that. I actively had to search for a subculture within my country, I haven't found those people on normal dating apps. My partner and I are now open after being monogamous for nine years and it's definitely not the norm. I'm not aware of any other open couple in our social circle. I do find open couples on a specific dating site we have in my country and at swinger events. There are many, but it's still a subculture, the participants of the lifestyle stay among themselves and don't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 10:06 AM
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Do you think your friend wanted to trick you into falling for her and then force the lifestyle on you? Personally, I wouldn't want to be with a monogamous guy anymore but other people are flexible in that they can be happy in a non-monogamous or in a monogamous relationship or they tried non-monogamy and found out it's not for them. There are also couples who tried it out and closed their relationship again because it didn't suit them. I don't see it as black and white, like once you go down tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:13 AM
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I guess it depends on the social circle you're in. My partner and I are those "eating their cake and have it, too" people with an open relationship and nice encounters outside of the relationship for both of us. Since opening up I'm diving into the swinger scene in my country and there are SO many couples who are swinger together and/or date separately outside of their main relationship. And those are completely normal people with completely normal lives. If I ever end up single again, which I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:56 AM
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I don't agree with that. I make more money with less hours than my partner does with his self-employment. He still has to pay bank loans and as money needs to be kept in his business, he brings in less net money than I do. Doesn't mean that his time is less valuable. Should I not puck up on household chores/grocery shopping when I have more time just because I have a well paying job? Our time together is valued in the time we actually have to spend together, not in how much we're paid per hour. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:42 AM
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I agree with that. Also a woman's libido is just quite complex. Obviously I can only talk about my own experiences and as I'm not a man, I can only have theories about the way their libido works without ever truly knowing. But I oftentimes had phases/situations with my libido where I was basically like "wtf is going on?" Be it a complete libido loss to being so horny that I ached and had to interrupt work several times to get some relief (thumbs up for being able to work from home). Hormones are…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:45 AM
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That's because you are usually the ones who penetrate. And if you're not in the mood there's not much your gf can do about it, if you're not getting hard you're not getting hard. But if you are, you can still put your dick into a dry vagina, it's not you who won't enjoy that encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:36 PM
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Oh, it's definitely easier for women to find casual sex, that's something that every men needs to know and be okay with if they want an open relationship. For us, my partner has never been sexually jealous, only romantically, and it was because of me that we've been monogamous for the longest time. That being said, he doesn't have a problem attracting women. He's very charming and good looking. I know for a fact, if we were to ever break up, he could be in a relationship the next day if he wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:32 PM
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Eh, maybe 🤷‍♀️ I'm still in my first LTR, so I don't have anything to compare it to. My partner was basically in relationships since late teenage age, while our current relationship is the longest he's been in and according to him the happiest one. From my experience desire ebbs and flows. I always find my partner attractive but I don't always want to fuck him and vice versa. And yeah, feelings change with time, but in my experience the love just gets deeper. For us, sex and feelings are also no…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:10 PM
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I'm on a swinger dating app for my country where you can post date wishes. I have a post up where I'm searching for two bi dudes for a MMF threesome with explicitly wanted man on man action. It's harder than I thought to organize such a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I don't care. I find man on man action hot and would love to have a MMF threesome with two bi guys 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:53 PM
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Join a swinger community/visit sex clubs. That's what I did and found it way more enjoyable than using the usual dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:37 PM
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I guess someone with whom I can't have interesting conversations and who doesn't have a sense of humor. Personality wise, what attracts me to my partner, is his ability to make me laugh with silly behavior and witty jokes and his curiosity about things that lead to interesting conversations. When he's in one of his moods, he can be reading Wikipedia entries or other websites about a topic that interests him in that moment and then he tells me about it, we discuss it, and sometimes he spikes my c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:35 PM
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I think a lot of men don't understand how fragile a woman's libido can be and it can drop to zero without any real reasons. My libido is high right now that I'm in my 30s but in my 20s I basically had years where I just didn't want sex. I was still pleasuring my partner with BJs as we were monogamous at that point but I wasn't even interested in masturbation. When I got into my 30s it changed and I helped along with spicy romance novels and audioporn. Currently my libido is higher than my partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:16 PM
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People crave novelty, no? I've been in a relationship for over a decade now, partner and I both want novelty in our sex life. No matter how many different positions you try or roleplays you play, the person will always be the same. At some point you know their body as well as your own, you know their smell and their taste. For the majority of people giving up on novelty is seen as a sacrifice they have to make for their relationship, and if you insist on monogamy then fair enough. I think that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:59 PM

Woman here, I also don't get it. What kind of vibrations??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:52 AM

I always suggest audioporn. It's produced ethically, nobody is being harmed, and it's basically narrating a story that you can get immersed in as a participant. Even here on reddit there are audioporn subs with content produced from redditors for redditors. A lot of women, too, who produce audioclips for men. Personally I don't listen to those as I'm a straight woman and prefer the ones done by men, but I think the content is huge and everyone can find something for themselves. Totally guiltfree…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:50 AM
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Yep, it's German. I'm just getting into the Swinger scene here but it's huge. There are many events, a lot of young and sexy people are involved. I've met someone who is in the scene for years and he told me that foreigners come to Germany specifically because the scene is so big. We have quite a few Swinger clubs here, modern, great establishments. Most of the time everyone is very respectful. A No is a No and people know that they're not guaranteed sex just because they're attending a party. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:50 PM
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No, it's a different site and specifically for my country, I think Fetife is more international.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:48 AM
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Yes, I would agree with that. I'm not saying that it never happens that a man can become attractive to a woman based on interaction and personality. It has happened to me but only once so far. I can't speak for all women of course, but just based on my experience I would say it's a possibility but an unlikely one. Also, several interactions need to happen for that. In my case it was an acquaintance, who is overweight and I didn't find attractive the first time I met him. But he has such a great …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:22 PM
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Thank you. I'm on a website for swingers. You can register with a solo profile or a profile as a couple. Everyone who is joining is already looking for casual sex, not a serious relationship (although there are couples who actually did meet through the website). And yet some of the messages I get make it seem that some dudes have absolutely no clue about social interactions. Luckily they are the minority but damn. Yes, even if someone is looking for something casual it doesn't mean that they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:38 AM
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I agree with you that physical attractiveness is the first barrier. However, a lot of men are also actually more attractive than they seem in their online profiles. Idk what it is, maybe a lot of men don't know how to take flattering pictures or their attractiveness just doesn't really come out on a two dimensional picture. Irl you get way more information, even just the physical kind. I'm involved in the swinger scene in my country. We have a website where you can have a profile and also can si…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:20 AM

That would probably just result in even more people not getting married, that's it. Or do you want to make sex outside of marriage illegal now? Unmarried people would still be able to do what they want, date and sleep with whoever and with how many they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:05 AM
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Degradation kink is a thing, though. Doesn't have anything to do with the status of the guy. It's not my thing, I prefer praise, but if you look into the kinky scene you will find a lot of people, women and men, who get turned on by being degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:53 AM
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Not really. It's not that I actually have a problem with cold approaches, if they're polite I am flattered. I'm just not really in the right headspace for it. I need a setting where I'm actually expecting something like this could happen, where I make space for such a possibility. In other scenarios I just have a thousand other different things in my head and no desire to spend energy on one more - unexpected - thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:38 AM
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I agree with that. I'm not poly but in an open relationship and I hate if open/poly people are smug about it. We've been monogamous for a long time and it worked, we're now open and it works, too. We discovered that for US it's a better model, but that's just based on how we are as individuals and as a couple. I know plenty of people who should not be in an open relationship because it doesn't suit their personalities and would make them miserable. I personally can't imagine now being with such …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:46 PM
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I'm not from the states, but I'm currently diving into the swinger/kinky scene of my country and the fetishization of black men is insane. A lot of black men also lean into it with very specific profile names, which is kind of sad to me on the one hand. On the other hand I don't want to be patronizing, I mean, it is the swinger scene after all. But the stereotypes are alive and well here in my country, which I find distasteful, it's still humans you're dealing with after all. I've not been with …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:33 AM
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I wouldn't have a problem with that. Granted, if something happened to my partner and I'd be single again, I would not be interested anymore in a monogamous relationship with cohabitation. I would be open for a primary partner but I wouldn't be open to moving in together, combining finances or marriage. I would view everyone as an individual. If he's antisocial and not good communication and didn't have a relationship because of those issues, I wouldn't be interested in him because of those spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:03 PM
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I did. For example I met someone at university and found him very attractive. We developed a great friendship at that time. While I would have been open for more in the beginning, he never showed any interest in anything more than friendship. We've met at the beginning of our studies, so we were friends for a couple of years. At some point I just couldn't see him as a sexual being anymore. I still regarded him as handsome and attractive, but not in a sexual way. The same one might think that rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:14 AM
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Yeah there can be. Not always, but I have experienced it that when someone becomes truly a friend over time, I couldn't get over viewing them as basically an asexual being. I wouldn't be able to develop sexual interest in them, even if I found them to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:21 AM
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Yeah I agree. Sexually I like a dominant man as I'm just naturally submissive in bed. Outside of the bedroom it would get old very fast. Not saying that some acts of chivalry aren't nice here and there, but that goes both way. And in a loving relationship, both should feel the need to put their parte's happiness above their own. That's how in the end both will be happy imo. My partner and I don't keep score, but I know that I'm the most important person for him and vice versa. Everyday life is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:16 AM
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I don't think you know what you're talking about. E.g. here in Germany we have a thriving swinger lifestyle culture. We have clubs that cater to the swinger lifestyle, with events that are exclusive to paired couples. We have a dating website where you can register as single or as a couple and you can find couples from their 20s up to their 70s, who are in the lifestyle together for decades. I am regularly reminded here how US-centric this platform is as my cultural experience is nothing like wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:03 AM
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I don't think it's weird. I'm childfree, if I was single and dating to find a relationship, this would be one of the first things I'd like to clear up. I would probably bring it up even before the first date. I wouldn't want to waste my own time, nor the time of someone who is looking for a partner to have kids with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:48 AM
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It's not ENM if one has to be bullied into it and it's one-sided, wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:41 AM
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The thing with values and people is that 1) everyone has their own values 2) people are judgy of other people who don't share their values 3) people would like to see the world shaped according to their own values All we can do is trying to be aware of this. I will side eye convictions and behaviors in a relationship that I deem overly constrictive, you would probably side eye my non-monogamous relationship. All we can do is basically leave adult human alone to lead the kind of lives they want f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 07:05 AM
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Is it the body count in itself or is it an indicator of someone who would have turned you down in your earlier days? Is it an indicator for someone who wouldn't be good in a relationship? For example, I've got together with my partner in my 20s, who is a great guy. Until I was 33 years old my body count was three, including my partner. Then we opened the relationship and it's higher now. However, nothing about me personally or about my ability to be a good partner has changed. I am happy, my par…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:07 AM
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One of my grandmothers only went to school for three or four years. She was a deeply religious woman, I always say it would have been better for her to be catholic and in the West, then she could have become a nun, I think that kind of life would have suited her more. She had several books with poetry she wrote, I've actually read one of her poems at my sister's wedding - she wrote it for her sister's wedding many decades ago. She also wrote songs lyrics based on the church songs she knew. For o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:15 PM
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Yeah, but who says that's biology and not society/culture? The fact that there are so many men in the West who don't care about virginity shows that the whole thing is rooted in surpressive cultures, fed by religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:59 PM
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Eh, I'm fat, still don't have any problems with getting sex. There are a lot of men who like a soft, round woman with big tits and a big ass 🤷‍♀️ you just need to know your audience. It also helps to have a cute face. In my experience a lot of men want a pretty face more than a fit body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:21 PM
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Some of them, yeah, but most? Idk. I've had this talk with my partner recently, when we got together I wasn't a virgin but had almost no experience. It took some time for sex to be really fun, finding out what I like, etc. I'm still finding out a decade later. We've opened the relationship a time ago and talked about our experiences. I'm in my mid 30s, he's in his late 30s. He would be totally bored with a virgin or inexperienced woman. Especially with fetishes or harder sex you need a partner w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:18 PM
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Yep, kudos to poly people who love it and make it work. My relationship is 'just' open and partner and I are very happy with our arrangement but neither of us has any interest in being in more committed relationships than the one we have. Of course there's a lot of stigma as seen in this threat and I would never say that non-monogamy is superior or anything like that, as our relationship has been monogamous for many years before we opened up, but it's disheartening to see when people shit on som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:08 AM

It can be. My partner works with cars. It can take him several times to get rid of the dirt and then he's up in a car again. He tries his best and most of the time his fingernails are clean but I don't care if they're not on occasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:44 AM
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What if she gave her 20s to a good man who then died or the relationship brokedown? Not everyone who is single in their 30s wasted their youth. They're still capable of being a good companion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:15 PM
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No, also never been in such a situation. Maybe it's also cultural. Here in Germany guys usually don't just buy women things without being in a relationship with them. I accept gifts from my partner, but I also get him stuff, so it's equal. I honestly would feel very uncomfortable accepting things from someone who is interested in a relationship when I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:24 AM
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It doesn't really work as an analogy because women wait with sex because they don't want to be perceived as someone who is only good for sex but not for a relationship by the man she actually likes. And I think we all know that a lot of men do have those views of women who have sex early on. On the other hand, no woman would think badly about a guy who puts in effort in a date early on. Also, there are so many different reasons why sex happens earlier or later with someone, there's really no rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:03 AM

I'm really glad about the awareness of Gen Z women. When I was in my early twenties we obviously didn't like to be approached by older men as well, but we didn't have the kind of education, so to speak, or wide awareness and discussions, it was just an instinctual thing and it was a part of life we had to deal with. I'm so happy that young women today have the tools and role models and open discussions and education in order to make smart choices. I'm proud of you ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:11 AM

Ugh, yes. Not even speaking about that this is the exact same post that has been made here a thousand times already, with the exact same argument. Women tell these posters what it's actually about, only to then be lectured about how they actually feel because obviously 19 year old red pillers know better what a women in her 30s or 40s thinks than she does herself 🙄 It's really not that complicated ffs. I have no interest in 'scoring' a man, I've been in a happy relationship for a long time, I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:03 AM
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I never really thought about professions being attractive or unattractive tbh. My partner has a blue collar job that he's good at and it has always been fine to me. It wasn't something that contributed to my decision of being/not being with him. If I have to think about it, I would say that I found law always interesting. So I guess soneone, who is knowledgeable in it and applies it successfully in his profession, could make me interested. Also maybe firefighters but purely out of superficial de…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:06 PM
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I think this applies to both sexes. Edgy people can be fun for a short time and it's fine if you have that kind of characteristics in small doses and know when it's appropriate to let it show and when you need to tone it down. But in a ltr you need two level-headed people, who know how to communicate productively and who don't let (irrational) feelings always guide their actions. I think that's also something that you can learn. My partner and I certainly improved in that regard over the years. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:55 PM
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I guess I can see that, but I think it's an unfair reduction that just causes confusion. I don't think that those who argue like that mean the whole group of men as they perfectly know that there are around just as many men who are pro-choice as there are pro-life ones. It really doesn't help to portrait this as a women vs. men issue as that's simply not the case. There are undoubtedly men who do want to control women by restriction their rights in that regard, but they are not all of the men wh…
/r/MensRights15/12/23 02:30 PM
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What? I never heard of that. I think it is very clear for everyone that it's an issue between conservatives and progressives. Men and women only play into it insofar as more men are conservative than women and more women are progressive than men. That still doesn't make this a women vs. men issue.
/r/MensRights15/12/23 12:05 PM
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Well, we are in an open relationship and my partner has never cared about body counts or anything like that. I wouldn't say that's 'woke' but I can imagine that someone who is conservative would describe it as 'woke' in a mocking way 🤷‍♀️
/r/MensRights15/12/23 11:59 AM
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I don't understand tbh. A man can be masculine and 'woke' (whatever that might mean for the individual) at the same time, though? A man doesn't have to be weak to be feminist. A man can be dominant in the bedroom and still have an egalitarian relationship outside of it. As far as I know, 'toxic masculinity' isn't the same as 'masculinity'. I consider my partner to be masculine, he has a blue collar job, makes crude jokes, has the typical 'male flaws' as well as the typical male virtues. But I do…
/r/MensRights14/12/23 05:47 PM
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I think both are equally as important for a relationship. However, looks is usually what we notice first and as sexual beings we need to feel attracted to someone for enjoyable sex. I would say, looks is the first step, personality the second step. If you don't have the looks, you will not be able to show your personality. On the other hand, if you have the looks but not a matching personality, or even an undesirable one, then that can make you unattractive holistically so that even the good loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:27 PM
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I don't think anyone in their early 20s has any kind of strategic thinking when it comes to dating. Either people stumble into relationships or they don't. Either they make the relationship work or not. There's really nothing more to it. I didn't really have a 'hoe phase' in my early twenties before I met my partner in my mid-20s. I was neither for nor against a relationship. I've went on dates but wasn't seriously searching for a committed relationship. I figured either it will happen naturally…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 01:54 PM
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Some do, some don't. I enjoy it, but I like to be clear about expectations from both sides. Is it a ONS? Okay, thank you for the fun and good bye. If I ask if they would be interested in a fuckbuddy arrangement and they say yes, I would not expect to be ghosted afterwards. Thankfully that happened only one time, but it was still annoying. Like, I already make it so easy, there are no expectations, not looking for something serious, and still there are men who can't just not lie. If I didn't enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:34 AM
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Of course. I'm convinced that my relationship is still going strong because we've been completely honest with each other from the beginning. I was pretty awkward when I was in my 20s, had trouble looking people in the eyes when I talked to them. If I had tried to play the seductress, it would have been clumsy and embarrassing. We were also not looking for a relationship, me because I wasn't sure if I would stay in the area, him because he just got out of a LTR, like days before we started going …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 09:21 AM
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Seriously. I'm in my mid 30s, partner late 30s. We've had separate finances from the beginning. Of course we're both stepping up where needed, share responsibilities and bills, but we each keep our own bank accounts, where our salaries are transferred to and each of us transfers a monthly deposit to a shared account for monthly expenses. Other than that everyone gets to use their money to their discretion. I sometimes really wonder about the kind of women the men here complain about because I se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:11 PM
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Exactly, that shouldn't be such a strange concept for both men and women. Granted, I've heard from men often enough that they would still sleep with such a woman, just not regard her for a relationship, while with women the thought with sleeping with such a guy disgusts them and they couldn't go through with it. Of course, there are nuances - is he just plain stupid? Eh, that's harmless, I could still be sexually attracted for a fun night. Does he express vile views, e.g. is he a Nazi? Full stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:28 PM
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I think, as with everything, it's a matter of balance. When it comes to sex for example, a lot of women have no issue saying that they enjoy or fantasize about a dominant man. Look at all the romance novels. Of course there are very sweet guys, but also a LOT of stories about dominant men. However, sexual desires are one thing, practical and domestic things are another. I absolutely believe that men can be dominant in bed and still not sexist assholes outside of it. My partner is such a man. Peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:23 PM
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All of them? Certainly not. I'm sure there are guys who are toxic and could have success if they were not so sexist. I've personally had the experience that I found men physically attractive but when they opened their mouth they gave me such an ick that I simply could not imagine having sex or a relationship with them. On the other hand there are probably a lot of men who are shy, or weird, or very unfortunately looking or simply living in an area where there aren't many options. There are so ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:13 PM
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I mean, that's fine. Most people are monogamous and there's nothing wrong with that 🤷‍♀️ my partner and I were monogamous for more than nine years before we opened our relationship and if you've asked me in the beginning if I thought that I would ever like non-monogamy I would have said no. I definitely get the monogamous POV.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:06 PM
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Woman here who has no problem with bi men: I agree that it's definitely a turn on. I wouldn't be against a MMF adventure. Alas, finding two men I'm attracted to and who are also attracted to each other is not easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 06:02 AM
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Hey, I mean, reverse harem is a popular trope in romance books, which are mostly read by women. Of course in reality that's not really a thing but the fantasy of having a bunch of men dedicated to you is definitely alluring 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:44 PM
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Hi there! We're such a couple. Well, I drive my car and he drives his car and we're both passangers in each other's cars. We both enjoy both things. I've also often enough pumped gas for his car and paid for it, because his car is a bottomless pit when it comes to gas and I love to make him happy and show my appreciation this way for the things he does for me. You know, like a normal egalitarian couple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:32 PM
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I'm childfree but I would have no issues with my partner staying at home if that's what he wanted to do. Unfortunately he's self employed and still has bank loans to pay. If he were employed somewhere but not interested in that, I would love for us to roam the world together. I have a corporate job that would allow me to work worldwide and it would be exciting to move places every few years. If he wanted to, my partner could find a job but he wouldn't have to necessarily. It's not something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:11 PM
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I still don't get how? It was said that social media and absent fathers are the cause. I explicitly detailed how this doesn't have to be the case by reporting my pwn experience. How was that proving the original point in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:11 PM
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I'm not American. In Germany we have the term "Lebensgefährte" for your significant other, whom you're not married to, which basically translates to "life partner". Not everything has some agenda behind it. I simply prefer that term because for me it portraits more than just being bf and gf without saying husband or wife as we're not married. And social media didn't have anything to do with our decision to open our relationship. We had our own desires, talked about it, and took action. I'm also …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:03 PM
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Want to elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:51 PM
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That's...rich. This whole space here is filled with men, who put their own spin and explanations on women's behavior and actions, not willing to listen to women's explanations. Instead of accepting a different pov men here tend to assign malice to anything a woman does in her life. Everything is explained in a way that suits their narrative. It's like with religious people, who take simple facts and spin them so that they fit their belief system. Like declaring that dinosaur bones were planted b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:04 PM
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I wouldn't say that he was totally eager, we just have discussed the option throughout the years. He never pressured me or anything like that and I was interested in theory, just had insecurities to overcome. We only opened up once our relationship was in a very good place for a long time. Opening up was never a goal or something like that, it was just an interesting option. We said if anyone of us wants to close the relationship down the line we would do that. The thing is, whether or not it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:52 AM
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Idk dude, that's just the human experience, no? Everyone, men or women, like the feeling of being wanted, there's really not much more to it. And it's just a small part of one's life, at least it should be. And it's just sexual validation, nothing more. I also get validation from being a loving partner, family member or friend. I get validation from work when I do a good job. I get validation from my pets when they want to be petted. It's just that from time to time I like to feel like a sexy, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:01 AM
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My partner doesn't use tinder but he meets women irl. I also don't know if I would describe him as a feminist. He's just a normal guy, idk. He's good looking and confident and has a lot charisma, people are drawn to him, he's funny. He's just not a traditionalist and not jealous when it comes to sex. We were monogamous for the longest time because of me, he would have been happy opening up way earlier. You definitely don't have to believe me, that's up to you, I'm just in a happy place and like …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:54 AM
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If it were up to my partner we could have opened up years earlier but I hesitated. Once I was fully on board, we dared to do it. Mentally I needed more time than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:44 AM
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People just take things too personally. I think dating is the one are where you are allowed to be as discriminating as you want to be and you shouldn't get any backlash for that. As long as you don't discriminate people outside of your bedroom, it's nobody's business what you do inside of it. You're not taking a right away from someone by not dating them because nobody is owed your body, love or affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:20 AM
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I think controlling behavior in a relationship is really a thing that can't be gendered at all, I think it's really 50:50 here. I've known women who are totally controlling their partners and I've known men who are like that. You hear stories where you just pity the controlled partner, no matter if they're a man or a woman. It's especially insidious if the controlling behavior doesn't start until a later point in the relationship. Some people really have no business being in a relationship tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:13 AM
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Not necessarily. I can only speak for my partner and me but we simply enjoy variety and it's a nice ego boost to be wanted. Personally, my parents are still married and I always had a good relationship with my father. Sometimes people just like to have sex with different people, that's all. Also, the beginning of something new is just exciting and simply not something you can recreate in a ltr. For most people it's simply a sacrifice they're willing to make for a long term monogamous relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 01:02 AM

In my experience men do, however, care about education and/or intelligence. My partner works in a blue collar job, however, he went to school for his master in his job and is self employed. He's also intelligent and likes to have interesting conversations. He would not have been happy with a - sorry for the bluntness - stupid woman by his side. When we started going out I was finishing my bachelor's degree and then decided to switch career paths and go to school for three more years. So for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:14 PM
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Yeah sounds strange to me. If I were in such relationship, monetary 'compensation' wouldn't make me happier. I simply wouldn't want to be in such a relationship. I'm not saying that it's not true that there are men who only want 50:50 when it comes to the bills. But nobody is forced to date those men. I mean, get to know the guy and find out. If he wants you to do all the housework and child rearing while still splitting the bills, dump him. If he's someone who wants 50:50 everywhere and proves …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:25 AM
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As a woman I would expect both people to be invested in dating if both are interested in a serious relationship. I don't like stingy people but that's because I'm not stingy myself. I have no problems paying for dates and that's the reason I would expect a date to be happy to pay as well, not because the date is male. I don't need a man to pay for my time, that just sounds icky to me. If I was dating to find a serious relationship I would expect to be my date as interested in me as I am in them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:14 AM
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I think it also depends on location. Here in Germany it's absolutely normal to split 50:50 and personally I actually enjoy paying on the first date and get the guy all flustered, it's cute. But we usually also don't do expensive meal dates, I can't think of anything more uncomfortable. We go out for drinks and get to know each other that way. I worked hard to be in a position to pay for myself and my date. It doesn't mean that I always insist on paying, if a guy absolutely wants to, I won't figh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:06 AM
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What about asexual people? They can still have romantic feelings and want a relationship. I would disagree that my feelings for my partner are the same as for my friends even if you take sex out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:41 AM
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Ever heard of the reverse harem trope? A LOT of women would love to have a collection of men dedicated to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:49 AM
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Yeah I think that assessment is probably true, it's the "golden middle" as we say in Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:57 PM
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I guess to each their own. I actually love it that my partner sees me as competent enough to fight my own battles, so to speak. I think he only stepped in once when a drunk guy in a bar started to rant at me while we sat there looking at him, trying to figure out what exactly he actually wanted to convey. I didn't even feel threatened and was actually surprised by my partner stepping in to tell drunk guy to get lost. I kind of suspect that he maybe wanted to diffuse the situation before I actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:18 PM
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In my personal experience that's not really true. I know about the hardships of my grandmothers and great-grandmothers through the women in my family but I've seen it first hand with the generation of my parents as well. What some women in my family went through with their husbands I would never want to go through. I also love my father and he got softer with age but he still has a lot of problems and I literally begged my mother as a teenager to divorce him, when I was old enough to really comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:04 PM
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So it's basically the same as with men who fuck unstable but hot chicks. There are people who are okay to have sex and fun with but are not a good fit for a relationship. It doesn't even have to be something severe, sometimes it's simply it's that characters don't fit for a LTR but they still find each other hot. Why is it so hard to understand that women, just like men, sleep with people that they don't WANT to be in a relationship with instead of that they CAN'T be in a relationship with them?…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:12 PM

I mean, it is true, though. I'm in a happy non-monogamous relationship and I absolutely know that someone, who cares about body counts simply wouldn't be the right fit for me, nor vice versa. Doesn't mean there's something wrong with him or me, it's just not the right fit. Just as someone wouldn't be right for me, who wants to move to Brazil. That's just life, you need more than attraction for a successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 11:27 AM

Yeah I think that's wack. I make more than my bf and I love to splurge on him with vacations and nice birthday gifts, but I would never expect special appreciation for it. And he is still somewhat traditional in the sense that he insist on almost always paying when we go out. The way I see it, the money we make is supposed to make our lives easier. I benefit just as much by being able to provide extra things, not just him. I would never expect for him to do anything extra to show his appreciatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:54 AM
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Yeah, sometimes we just want to get laid 🤷‍♀️ though I rather pay for a nice hotel room that go home to some dude I don't know. Hooking up has enough risks, no need to add to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:13 PM
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Why do you think that women would be surprised? It's the red pill guys here who lament about women only going for rich guys while the women here constantly try to set that straight. I make more than my partner, I don't care, he doesn't care. He always supported me and is proud of me and we both enjoy it very much that I can afford to pay for nice vacations and I love to spoil him on his birthday with nice presents. He doesn't feel emasculated but jokes that my career is his investment and joking…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:09 PM
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This doesn't paint men in the best light, though, no? If the average dude would act the same as Chad if he could, he's not better, he just doesn't have the same opportunities. Which means that there aren't more moral men and it doesn't really matter which man a woman chooses if men are not lead by inner morals and values but by outside circumstances. If an average guy would just as likely cheat if he encounters a possibility to do so, might as well go with the option that provides more satisfact…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:28 AM
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I didn't follow that trial intensely but iirc it's not that black and white. Johnny Depp has also been established as the victim throughout the whole mainstream media while Amber Heard has been ridiculed to no ends. I think the Fauxmoi subreddit has a lot of information about the shitty things Depp and his team were doing throughout the trial and show a different read on their relationship than what is the normalized narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:23 AM
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Exactly. I don't get some weirdos here on PPD. The hostility that I see here is not at all what I see irl and what I've experienced myself. My partner and I started out casually until we discovered that we've developed feelings for each other and decided to be in a relationship with each other. We weren't using each other, we enjoyed spending time with each other and enjoyed the sex. After we've opened our relationship I've had great hookups with lovely men, who were eager to please me in the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 01:15 AM
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Idk, I'm a woman who has casual sex. So far I've only been with one man who was so selfish that he didn't care about my pleasure. Every other guy wanted me to feel good and I had a lot of fun hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 12:31 AM
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It's actually quite normal for a woman's libido to basically disappoint for 2-3 years after childbirth. Just one of the sacrifices both women and men need to accept if they want kids. Nothing I personally want to deal with and it's only one more reason for me not to have children but it's a reality that a lot of people don't want to acknowledge or are oblivious to. Of course it's not every woman but it happens for such a big percentage of mothers that it's a very common issue among young parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:08 PM
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Yeah, I don't get it snd I'm a woman. Sure, it stinks if you had sex and nothing came out of it, e.g. I had a really great ons and thought it could evolve into a fwb arrangement, alas, dude was not interested. But I'm never going into sexual situation without acknowledging the possibility that nothing else comes out of it. I don't see sex as something that I exchange for a relationship or anything else I might want. If I'm not ready to have sex just for the sake of sex I'm not having it. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:51 PM
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Yep, and the other way around. I'm not single and in a happy relationship with a blue collar guy, but he is very intelligent and we have interesting conversations. I wouldn't want to be in a serious relationship with someone who is married to his job, but part of the allure of a successful man is the intellectual stimulation. I can imagine that going out with a surgeon or idk a polititian would we highly interesting due to the tales they can tell. When I was younger, I worked as an Aupair for a …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:15 PM
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You definitely need to have the right head shape and a well groomed beard for it. Also, if you have an ugly face, it doesn't matter if you have hair or if you're bald, neither will help. But I've noticed for myself that I seem to have a type, I definitely check out dating profiles of bald men with beards more thoroughly than others. Personally I like the look and if I had to choose between a bald man and a man with long hair, I will always choose the bald one. I find way more bald men attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:54 AM
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Yeah, I've heard that from women as well. Idk, I thankfully never experienced some kind of sexual trauma, don't have abandonment or daddy issues, but I just like rough sex. I also like sweet sex on occasion, but I can't change what gets me hot and I'm not going to apologize for it or overanalyze my psyche because of it. I have rough sex with my bf and did CNC roleplay with a friend and for me that's just the best kind of sex. If I want it, I don't see why I or my bed partners should be shamed fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:50 AM
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That men are always horny and will always be in the mood for sex. I guess this could be true for sex-starved redditors, but guys who have access to regular sex, can have phases in which they're not interested in sex at all, even longer phases, just as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:38 AM
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Attraction is not the only thing that determines if a woman is up to having sex on a first date. Hell, there's something called "being in the mood", also hormones can have a huge impact. Sometimes I'm on a great date with an attractive guy but I'm just not in the right head space for sex, or simply being on one's period during the first date. Believe it or not, but very often, attraction, or missing attraction, has nothing to do with not having sex on the first date. Also, a big factor can be ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:33 AM
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Yeah but then it's clear that women don't get unrealistic ideas about a man's physique from porn. Most porn is catered to men, evident by having these POV shots from a male perspective. I've yet to see porn where a woman is fucked but a gorgeous man and she holds the camera to show his handsome face and torso so that female watchers can indulge in the fantasy that they're being fucked right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:04 AM
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Eh, I think it's the same as with some men and porn. Personally I love romance novels and erotica, I discovered some kinks and incorporated some things I've read into my sex life. But in the end, it's just fantasy. Of course it would be great to have a mind reader as a partner but that's just not real life. I don't find my partner less attractive or loveable just because he doesn't look or act like book boyfriends. It's just fun to escape into a story for a while and to root for the main charact…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:57 AM
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I wouldn't get into a relationship with a man who has kids or serious debts without a plan or possibility to pay it off or someone who has a lifelong serious STD like HIV. Furthermore I would dump someone who treats me bad because of some unchecked trauma. Other than that I don't really care about his previous experiences as long as he treats me well and respects the rules and boundaries we set together for the relationship. The older I get the less important his n-count is to me, but I also hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:06 PM
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Well, I don't want to be in an open relationship with THEM, I'm already in an open relationship. And I just don't see the logic of caring about the sex life of a casual partner. People date non-exclusively all the time, what would be the difference here? If you know that it's not going to be a serious relationship in the first place, why does the fact that she has other partners outweigh the fun of casual dating and fucking? I just don't get it, but maybe it's a male thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:13 PM
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Eh, if they're not looking for something serious anyway, who cares? I try not to meet up with men who are looking for a serious relationship and I make it clear that I'm interested in a fwb arrangement. I mean, even good looking guys don't have sex as regularly as they would like to. I've met someone who I found attractive and he told me he didn't have had sex in months. So Idk, if it's clear from both sides that it's only casual and the sex is good, why not choose regular sex for a few weeks/mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:54 PM
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Idk, possible, but I'm currently talking to a guy, who's also in an open relationship and looking for a fwb, so maybe I'll have more luck in the future. I swipe right on those guys I find attractive, no reason to start something with someone who can't make me horny, where would be the logic in that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:36 PM
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I think that's totally fine. I don't get this obsession of "race discrimination" in dating. It's one thing to discriminate when it comes to jobs or housing, but when it's about dating, being intimate with someone? Discriminate away, dude. You like what you like, if white skin is simply not appealing to you, then that's just what it is. Nobody should make you feel guilty for liking or not liking something in a partner. For me personally there's no difference between not liking a specific skin col…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:16 PM
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Yep, I would agree that the apps are just not good in general for men. My partner is good looking and has no issues connecting irl and finding fwb arrangements (open relationship) but he stays away from apps. He knows that he wouldn't be successful and it doesn't have anything to do with him as women find him attractive and charming and want to go out with him irl. If we would ever break up, I know for a fact that there would be a line of women waiting for him, so it's good that he loves me 😆 On…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 01:08 PM
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Staying single is always an option. I'm in the lucky position to date a man who has absolutely no problems with all of the things listed by OP and knowing what a relationship can be like with such a man I would simply choose not to date other kinds of men if I would ever end up single again.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:27 AM
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I would say the first factor for simple sexual attraction is looks. Personality can increase or decrease sexual attraction for a lot of people, though. There is a difference between attractiveness and sexual attraction. I might see an attractive man and be sexually attracted to him. If it turns out that he has a shit personality, I can still acknowledge that he is an attractive person but my sexual attraction to him dries up. Really, really shitty personality can even turn sexual attraction into…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:43 AM
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People who didn't have suicidal thoughts before they became parents. But that's not even the point. The point is that kids won't make everyone happy, for some people it's the opposite. Kids make some people happy and others miserable, so it's not a solution for each and every person to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:45 PM
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Oh no, men are definitely competent. They're just oftentimes not willing. I've seen this play out times and times again. Men are perfectly capable of handling everything household related while being single and living on their own. They don't forget to buy new toothpaste or toilet paper, they remember to take the trash out before it overflows or stinks up the whole apartment. They're capable of making sure that they always have clean socks and underwear. But as soon as they move in with a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:16 AM
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There are people who kill themselves because they became parents. Having kids is not the solution for everyone and certainly doesn't being joy for everyone. You just have to check out the regretful parents subreddit to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:59 AM
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Yeah, I get the same feeling. I'm with a guy people would perceive as handsome, charismatic and successful. Obviously he has his flaws as all humans do, but he's definitely perceived as a catch. But he's nothing what guys here describe men to be like. Maybe it's because he simply grew as a person and a partner, we are not in our 20s anymore, but I can't see him at all like what men are portraited here to be like. The jealousy, insecurity, sometimes real hatred of women - he's kind, a good listen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:32 AM
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I think it's the same for men and women. Men categorize women into "just good for sex" and "relationship material" and women do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 07:20 AM
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Yeah lol when I was young, hot and at uni, I was found in both places. It's not like women who party are not also studying. Though at least in my time, the library wasn't really a place for meeting people. We were there for research and for writing our papers. Maybe it's also because I'm in Germany but even the most outgoing people weren't disturbing others in a library setting by flirting/talking. Studying in the day, partying at night, don't know if it's different now or how it is in other pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:36 PM
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I mean, yeah, but as an adult with experience he should be able to analyze what his feelings were and were not and he should be able to realize that his fantasy was never real and thus should be able not to idolize a woman from 20 years ago. I would find it concerning if an adult with real life relationship experience would still be pining after a fantasy that has never been real to begin with. I think almost anyone knows what young/teenage love feels like and we can look back sometimes with fon…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:06 PM
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Idk man. I mean, I obviously still remember my first time, it was a teenage crush, he's from a different country and we were 'in love' every time I visited. But I wouldn't say that it defined me or that I'm still pining over him. It's just fond memories about a more innocent time. Maybe it's because I'm still in my first, actual adult relationship that's going strong, but I don't really reminisce about previous experiences all the time, even if I had the pleasure of having great sex before I met…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:55 AM
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I think it's adapting to the norm. I'm fairly new to dating apps and I'm still never cruel or something like that. But you just get the sense that ghosting is normal, guys immediately starting to talk about very obscure fetishes, etc. I think everyone gets a little bit jaded. I'm currently not really active but just chat with and concentrate on two guys I've met on tinder and exchanged numbers with. Keeps the sanity intact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:41 AM
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Yeah, I would agree with that, even for good looking guys. I'm ENM and my bf doesn't bother with dating apps. He has no problems attracting women IRL and forming connections but I think even he would struggle with dating apps. There are just way too many men in order to truly stand out and you can't really show your charisma fully through texts. If you're confident and open and have no issues interacting with women IRL, then dating apps are just a waste of time. But of course meeting new people …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:28 AM
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Maybe he started that way but his development doesn't really paints him in a favorable light.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 12:00 AM
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Isn't the fun of polygamy having several partners at the same time, though? Imo serial monogamy is still monogamy. If I'm hopping from one relationship to the next every few years, I'm still in monogamous relationships, I'm just not able to make them work longterm for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:44 PM
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"Reverse harem" is a very popular trope within romance novels for women. Monogamy is a compromise for both sexes. The fantasy of having several (attractive) people devoted to and in love with you is not limited to men. As a harem is seen as unethical by most people, a compromise could be polyamory, or to a lesser extent just an open relationship, but both relationship structures are less desirable for most people than strict monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:39 PM
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Absolutely. Of course women want a man they're physically attracted to, as everyone does. But it seems that rp guys totally underestimate the importance of how a man makes a woman feel, which contributes to make him desirable or not. I always recommend to read romance novels to und what women desire. One of the most important thing to make a man desirable is for him to make a woman feel desirable herself - in a sophisticated way, in lieu of a better word.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:28 PM
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Peterson popped up randomly in my YouTube algorithm before he got really famous. I've watched his videos with interest and found some stuff interesting. The way he talked about women, especially his view on childfree or fence sitting women, rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning, though, and I never agreed with it. Then watching the way everything progressed with him just put me off completely, and I was actually agreeing with him with his stance about the whole pronoun thing. But yeah, I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 09:07 PM
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Huh? It was a hookup. We were both interested in sex, so we had sex. The work that I did going in was preparing my body - showering, shaving, putting on makeup, lingerie, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:59 PM
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Yeah, I just shrugged it off. I do cut off guys who give me a weird vibe, I've done that with several guys I was communicating with, but I don't claim that I actually know what's going on in their head. There's definitely the possible that I've cut off perfectly fine men, who just communicated strangely, but it's simply a question of 'better safe than sorry" at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:58 PM
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I don't think that's true, though? I've once hooked up with a guy I thought was cute and sexy, the flirting was on point. In bed he was completely egotistical, I did all the work, and it was basically over in two minutes. I was flabbergasted at how nonchalant he was about it. After several weeks he tried to hit me up again for a repeat. I laughed and declined. I'm not a mind reader, I can't tell if someone will be selfish in bed or not, but once I do, I act accordingly. I think most women do tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:34 PM
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Lol I would enjoy my harem and make them all fall in love with me and share me 😆 Prerequisites: I can't get pregnant and they're all STD free and single (no wives/girlfriends waiting for the safe return of their loved ones)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 07:02 PM

On the other hand, it shows that your partner is ultimately ready to throw the relationship away - always a possible consequence of cheating - for a quick fuck. How is that better? If he developed feelings for the other woman there would at least be a somewhat positive(?) outcome, as he wasn't risking everything for something meaningless. Btw personally I don't think that either reason is less bad than the other. Both will hurt equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:10 AM
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Why would you assume that I don't enjoy life just because I don't think it has a purpose? I love my life, I have a great family, who loves me, a very happy relationship, friends, money to travel. There's nothing missing or depressing in my life just because I dare to be happy just existing. And I'm not an atheist actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:53 PM
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There is no purpose in life, life just is. There is no rational reason whatsoever to owe your dead ancestors, most of whom you never even knew, anything. What if great-great-grandpa raped his niece and that's how the lineage went on? Why would you feel obligated to do anything for a dead rapist? We all get a short amount of time on this planet, need to survive and live civilized among others, and then we're gone. Nobody today cares about, idk., a fisherman from 1678, whether he reproduced or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:34 PM
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He didn't need to create new humans, who have to live in a society he doesn't like. There's a lot I don't like about society, but I thought especially for Americans freedom is suchba precious thing, no? The most basic rule of society is recognizing that my rights stop where someone else's rights begin. Other than that you can't dictate your worldview and shame people into adopting your views. What if nihilists or antinatalists started to impose their views on others, coercing them to adhere to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:22 PM
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I wouldn't. Not everyone needs a purpose in life. And I'm not saying that in a depressing manner or anything like that. I'm honestly the happiest if I don't have to do anything. I'm never bored just being by myself, reading, scrolling through reddit, etc. I love to travel, but that's also not a purpose. If I won the lottery, I would definitely quit and then do a whole lot of nothing. It doesn't depress me, it makes me happy. I don't need to have a goal in order to be content. Not everyone has a …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:14 PM
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There is no duty to reproduce, what dystopian fantasies do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:10 PM
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It's not only the sex itself (but that's definitely a huge contributor) but the man himself. I guarantee you, a lot of women, maybe even the majority, would get bored with Henry Cavill just as much as with average Joe after a few years. And this has nothing to do with the man itself (although he can definitely contribute to a dead bedroom through his actions) but simply with the fact that novelty is the one thing that truly is the source for pure lust. Go to the low libido subreddit and you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:12 PM
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Yeah true, I meant to say hookups/ons or just fuckbuddy arrangements, where the only interaction is basically sex. With a fwb they should actually be friends/friendly, you're probably going on casual dates, do things together outside of the bedroom. For those kind of relationships you definitely need more than a hot body. I'm probably not going to have stimulating conversations with a himbo, so no reason to do anything other than have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:40 PM
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Yeah, for those things it would be odd if she actually likes them in general but not with the partner she loves. Although for sex positions or anal it can simply be anatomy. E.g. his dick is too big for anal to make it pleasurable for her, there's a big difference in height or weight, so that specific positions are uncomfortable, etc. The enjoyment of specific sex acts is not merely a factor of attraction, now that I think about it. But it would definitely need to be tried out to determine that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:27 PM
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And what about MFM? If she enjoyed that in the past and would like that again, would you be down? If not, why? If not, could you imagine that she has the same reasons as you to not want a FMF threesome now? Having threesomes as a single person, without loving one of the participants, is (for a lot of people) something completely different than witness the person they love fuck someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:15 PM
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That's not it, though. It's because of the missing mystery. For CNC you need to have that sweet spot between trusting a partner while still not knowing them as well as yourself, which is unavoidable in very long relationships. It would never feel even remotely realistic, especially if you're in a very loving and trusting relationship. Also, a lot of guys are not able to bring themselves to do that to a partner they truly care about and love. There's definitely a little bit of the Madonna-Whore c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:08 PM
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Why is that an issue? Is it really so hard to understand that some people don't enjoy the thought of seeing the person they love fuck someone else? Would you be totally cool with a MFM threesome? Witnessing how the woman you love is being fucked by another guy? I would say the majority of men would freak the fuck out if their gf/wife would suggest something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:01 PM
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I think it depends on how well you know each other? Like, I'm not interested in my male friends falling in love with me but I would be offended if they thought that I wasn't relationship material in general. For me that would mean that they see some major flaws in my character. While for nearly stranger/hookups? The guy doesn't even know me, we're only interested in each other sexually, there is no desire to get to know each other better - he wouldn't even know if I was relationship material or …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:52 PM
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Why do you think it would be about pleasing the man instead of getting pleasure from a man and woman simultaneously? I'm not sexually jealous but I absolutely get it if someone doesn't want to see their partner fucking someone else. Imagine being single and having a MFM threesome, simultaneously fucking a woman with another guy. Would you be comfortable to do the same while in a relationship and being in love with your girlfriend? If you are, kudos to you, but a lot of guys would not be comforta…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:37 PM
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Agree, as a woman. When it's just about casual sex it's about the looks. Obviously for a longer arrangement like fwb other characteristics come into play but when it's just about fucking, why shouldn't I go for someone who is easy on the eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 10:28 AM
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I think that's a more or less normal sex life for men or women. I don't think that having a lot of sex with different people or no sex at all in itself tells you anything about the quality of a person in regards to their relationship capabilities. Maybe the reason for staying a virgin for very long or sleeping around. When I've met my partner I didn't have a lot of sexual experience or longterm relationship experience. The fact that we're still together also has absolutely nothing to do with my …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:57 PM
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Of course not. Also, I don't like that "incel" basically became a synonym for creeps like this Elliot guy. There are incels, who are just that - involuntarily celibate. That in itself doesn't say anything about their character or world view. But I understand that meanings of words change and I definitely also made the equation of incel = creep, as it's so prevalent. Especially in online spaces with heated debates, it's very easy to throw insults around. I think most of us would behave very diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:30 PM
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No I haven't, but it rings some bells. Something about a poor couple and a rich man proposing paying them a lot of mpbey for a night with the woman? Would need to look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 05:31 PM
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I have been with other guys, yes. My partner has never really been sexually jealous, for him it's important that he's the one I actually love and spend my life with. There's no competition, we fit very well together and we worked very hard on making it fit where it didn't at the beginning. He's also very confident, sometimes even a bit cocky, so he's not intimidated by other men. I don't know how he would react if I was hooking up with a rich guy, but I don't think that would be a problem. He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:38 PM
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Well, don't men have fwb as well instead of just ons? That's basically what I would like to have. Obviously having (hopefully good) sex is a main part of that, but I simply would like that to be regular, having someone I trust for more kinkier stuff, etc. But well, I'm currently talking to a guy, who is in an open relationship himself, so fingers crossed, that it will work out with him :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:24 PM
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That's understandable, there's a reason why the majority of relationships are monogamous and my partner and me were monogamous for nine years before opening up. For us, the decision actually even deepened our own connection and even improved our communication, even though we thought that we were already very good in that department. I understand that it won't work for every relationship but it works very well for us. However, we are not poly, there is definitely a hierarchy and our relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:20 PM
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That doesn't even apply only to relationships. I make it very clear that I'm not looking for a relationship and live, being in a ENM relationship I already have that. However, I'm also not really interested in ONS, if it happens, it happens, but ideally I would like to have a fwb arrangement and it seems like even that is too much for some guys, even if it means regular sex without strings attached. I think sex gets better the better you know someone and not to toot my own horn but I do think I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:51 PM
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Hmm no, not really. The fact that you're asking that already shows your inexperience with intimate/romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:41 AM
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Sooo, you're not even really interested in a relationship for the relationship's sake but because of social recognition? That's way more of a red flag than no dating experience in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 11:35 AM
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Idk man, all of my male friends and acquaintances are in relationships or married themselves. I can't even think of one single male friend I interact with more or less regularly. I definitely don't have any orbiters just waiting for my 10 year relationship to combust. I also don't know any woman with such men in her life. At some point usually your friend group consists of other couples. The few male friends who were single, found a partner eventually, got married, had kids. They weren't pining …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:59 AM
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Huh, I've only seen Eloit Roger brought up as an example by incels that men are unsuccessful with women because of their looks and they say that he was ugly. The thing is, he wasn't ugly at all. It's been a while but I watched his recording of himself in his car and I remember thinking that he was not ugly at all, it was the things that he was saying that made him creepy. That made me think that some guys may have a distorted view on what lets women keep a distance from some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:42 AM
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Not all women think that way, though. I found that statement disgusting. There's nothing gross about virginity just as there's nothing gross about someone who has never tried sky diving. Not participating in an activity doesn't make someone gross. If I think about a gross person it either has to do with a bad hygiene or disgusting views/opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:53 AM
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Lol who actually likes working? If I won enough money to last me a lifetime, I would quit immediately. Same for my bf. We do it to be able to put food on the table, a roof over our heads and to be able to maintain a specific kind of lifestyle. If I could do that without needing to work, I would absolutely do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:01 AM
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Careers don't make men sexually more attractive. Maybe attractive in a holistic way when it comes to long-term relationships, but a career has no influence on if I find someone fuckable or not. But it can influence the decision if I will actually fuck them. I can find a man sexually attractive who is a policeman/soldier/pilot, but I wouldn't fuck him because of his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 11:57 PM
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I'm in an open relationship and I pay for my dating app account. I'm simply too nosy and want to see who liked my profile and it's way easier to just pick from your likes and start a conversation than doing the whole swiping thing. I'm not interested in a serious relationship, though, as I already have one. Paying for a dating app as a woman can have different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:27 PM
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I agree, that's why I said it's just a fantasy. Logically getting verbal consent and having a good, open communication leads to better outcomes, so we should go with that. Sexual fantasies are oftentimes unrealistic, this kind of magical man simply doesn't exist, he would need to be mind reader in order to make explicit consent and communication obsolete. People are able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. Women also fantasize about vampires and handsome billionaires, who worship the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:18 PM
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Yeah definitely. I don't think that this will be the case for me and my partner, as we way too much enjoy solitude (I'm in my thirties now and have been a lone cat my entire life, since childhood) but if it ever came to that, fostering would definitely be an option. I would probably go with teenagers as they can be more independent and are oftentimes hilarious. But yeah, it's good that this option exists and it would be a win win for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:10 PM
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I think most people simply give in to the biological urge to reproduce but I think a lot of people aren't necessarily happy with the reality of being a parent. I have a friend, who loves her kid very much, but she said, if she actually knew beforehand what it's really like to be a parent, she wouldn't have done it. There are definitely a lot of people who truly find happiness and contentment in parenthood, but I think the number of people who actually would not enjoy this life is higher than we …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:43 PM
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For me it was a battle in my late 20s up until I hit 30. Biology is a bitch. Deep down I don't think that I ever had a true desire to be a parent, but I love babies and toddlers and hormones play their part. Then of course the typical fears of being old and alone and FOMO when a lot of people around you are becoming parents. I have to say though that I'm so happy that I didn't fell pregnant at the time. Once I became 30 the false desire disappeared almost over night. My partner never felt a stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:33 PM
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Haha I already joined! In a happy open relationship for a decade, having great sex with my life partner and others :) But the smut novels definitely helped me getting out of a long low libido phase, so I will never give them up 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:21 PM
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There are apps specifically for these peeps. I'm not on the US but I heard that the Feeld (or something like that) is used in the community in the US. Wish you a lot of success :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:04 PM
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Yeah as you said, people want different things. I'm not particularly interested in marriage and I'm definitely not interested in children, for me personally that would be suffocating. I assumed that you were financially dependent on your husband because you used the word "housewive", it is generally assumed that a housewives is not (self-)employed. Edit: sorry, "stay at home wife" but that's basically a synonym for housewife
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:32 AM
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If you're not able to find a longterm monogamous relationship, maybe dabbling in the open relationship dating sphere would be a possibility for you? Enjoying companionship as e.g. a secondary partner while still having your own life and independence. You seem like a normal and reasonable guy, so that could be something maybe? I'm in an open relationship myself and would like to make connections and establish a fwb relationship but it's not that easy, a lot of men are either only interested in ON…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 10:04 AM
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I agree with you. Maybe it's a generational thing, but I never had issues being approached wherever (well, maybe a sauna would be a bad place or when a woman is going home alone at night, that would be a bad idea) as long as the guy was respectful. Making contact in itself is not creepy, being creepy and harrasing after being told "No" is creepy. Maybe men in the US are more aggressive and harrasing, idk, but luckily for me I never had a situation where I feared for my safety when being approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:48 AM
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Well, you're a self-proclaimed red pill woman, so you want a red pill relationship with a red pill man and did what you needed to do to attract such a man. I would argue that nowadays the majority of women don't want that kind of life. I was never interested in being financially dependent on another person. Sure, if I won millions in the lottery I would also stay at home but as that's not realistic, my financial independence, which I keep by being employed, is my priority. I also don't want kids…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:39 AM
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People who marry later can also be with their partner for a long time. My partner and I are not married (yet?) because it's simply not a priority for us. We're not against it, we just can't be arsed. Maybe we will get hitched at some point and then we will be one of those older couples, but I've been with him since I was 24 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 09:30 AM
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Probably. And I'm not attracted to teenagers 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:13 AM
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I think for women it's just this fantasy of getting together with a man who automatically knows how to push her buttons without being told. It's hot to think about having this magical sex where everything fits into place automatically and feels good. Realistically women know, or at least learn with maturity, that men are not mind readers and that you need to ask for what you want so that it will be a good experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:51 AM
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Yeah that's true, it's a bad situation to be in and you would have to 'fake it till you make it'. I think that it's probably a turnoff for a lot of women because an orgasm isn't guaranteed as it is, adding to that that the guy is inexperienced, it's probably unlikely that she will cum. Why bother at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:41 AM
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I think it can be hot. Granted, I need to be attracted to the guy in the first place and be in the mood to teach, but I think it's actually sweet and can be a lot of fun. E.g. if he also never had a bj before and showing him for the first time what it's like, watching his reactions. Idk, seems pretty fun to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:37 AM
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I know a lot of decent men but desirable sexually AND romantic/relationship wise? Yeah, I think those are rare due to compatability. Luckily for me I found someone with whom.I already had a good basis to build upon and we invested a lot of work into our relationship. And we had some really shitty times as well. But he was always desirable as a life partner for me. I don't know if I would put in the same work for the majority of men, probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:57 PM
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I would question anyone who is in his 30s or older and wants to have an actual relationship with a 18yo. I accept the biological part, even if I can't comprehend it. If I look at 18 year olds, I see kids. But a relationship? I would question the sanity and maturity of any adult who would want that, male or female. I'm actually in an open relationship and had this discussion with my partner, who is in his late 30s. He find women in their mid to late 20s attractive obviously and wouldn't say no to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:35 PM
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Rubbish. Women are people. People can get better at reading people with life experience, but of course there will always be hopeless cases, male and female ones. The only thing that can be said is that maybe women tend to be more cautious and rather reject a perfectly normal dude if something feels off instead of taking the risk and finding out that their intuition was correct. That's really all there is to it. Better wrong than dead and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:18 PM
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But why would a woman want to do all of that things with someone, who has already done everything? It's also exciting for women to have shared new experiences with their partner, it is bonding to do something together for the first time. I've been a 20 year old woman once, I knew of exactly one girl my age, who dated an older guy in his 30s, got pregnant and played housewife while all of her friends enjoyed their youth at university. She was miserable and served as a cautionary tale to us others…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:12 PM
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It happens. I don't actually think that I look younger than I am but I've heard it from several people already when I mention that I'm in my thirties. Maybe it's because I don't have kids and being chubby means I have more fat in my cheeks, which is usually associated with youthfullness. But I'm also not regarded as waaay younger than I am, I'm in my mid thirties and people usually think that I'm in my late twenties. I still take it 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 02:51 PM
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My partner doesn't like to be 'presented' on social media. I need to show every pic or video he is in beforehand. It's easier no not post him at all 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:33 PM
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A prenup basically outlines the terms and conditions of your marriage. The law already does that for you. If you don't agree with some specifics of the law, you add your own terms and conditions for the marriage, if you're happy with what the law says, then that already is your prenup, basically. Apparently enough people agree with the current standard terms and conditions of marriage defined by the law as they don't see the necessity of a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:00 PM
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I see that all the time with women, who lost their husbands relatively early, in their 40s or 50s. They have no desire to cohabitate again. With men it's the other way around. I know of a guy, who lost his wife to cancer, they were in their 50s when it happened, they have been highschool sweethearts, together for a very long time, had kids and everything. The cancer was totally unexpected and she lost her life within months of its discovery. IIRC within a year of her death he had a new girlfrien…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:50 PM
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Don't marriages basically have an automatic prenup defined by law? You would only need individual ones if you disagree with what the law says and apparently not everyone does. If you make individual prenups mandatory then marriage as a societal institution wouldn't make sense anymore. Then you could call every kind of relationship a marriage by your own definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:17 PM
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The one I can remember was from my teenage years. He was interested in chasing me until I showed that I was interested as well and acted more proactive. I guess that killed the conquering mood in him. He later got together and married a nice, shy and more demure woman, so I guess this is how he expected me to act but that's just not me. Oh well, wouldn't have been happy together like that anyway and I don't change my personality because of such an experience and those kind of expectations from s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:52 PM
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More and more women are making peace with staying single but men don't like that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:07 AM
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Those women are insecure and not happy and show it in an unhealthy way. I'm a chubby woman, I know that I should lose weight, but it is what it is. But I also don't hide it, this is what you get, take it or leave it. I explicitly state that in my dating app profile and I have pics of me that show that I'm not thin. There are still enough men that are attracted to me, even men that are way fitter than me. Women don't have to hide who they are in my opinion and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:51 AM
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Even if we assume that your hypothesis is correct, your suggestion works in theory but not in practice. Men are simply hornier due to hormones and therefore attracted to a greater % of women than vice versa. That's it. Men also want women to truly lust after them, to be totally attracted to them to not feel as if they're settled for. The problem is, you can't force pure lust and attraction, it simply doesn't work that way. You can recognize that for a working LTR other attributes than pure attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:32 AM
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I don't know. On the one hand, if you're extremely unhappy and have no faith in the relationship and no desire to fix it (and vice versa) then separation is probably a good idea. On the other hand, if everything is fine and you're just bored, I think it would be stupid to end the relationship. I think some people don't realize that NRE is not sustainable in ANY relationship. Even if you'll find another person, who is good and compatible, at some point you will end up in the exact same situation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:13 AM
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Some women are simply less sensitive, I'm one of them. Oral feels nice but will never make me cum, fingers can work but it will take ages and most of the time I would be exhausted before it happens and get cramps. It just is what it is, thank God for vibrators, though. Most women also enjoy a flat surface on their clit, flat tongue or flat head of a vibrator. For me it's the opposite, I need a pointed/sharp head for precise stimulation. It's annoying, but what can you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:59 AM
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I fid all of these mentions of nurses baffling. I have a female relative who was a nurse here before moving to the US for love. Her job was stressful but also kinda boring (at least for me). We lived together for a few years while we were in our twenties and I did not experience any slutty behavior from her or her colleagues. They've all been too overworked and tired for that. A lot of them were also married with kids and were happy when their shift was over so that they could go home to their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:49 PM
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I'm not a fan. I also don't hate men, I know a lot of lovely men, who don't deserve to be met with vitriol. I don't have kids but I have a bunch of nephews, whom I love dearly, and I don't think that they should be "sacrificed" to atone for the sins of previous generations of men. The future should be a pleasant and livable place for everyone without discrimination for anyone. I'm not sure what exactly this slogan is supposed to achieve, but I don't feel represented by it. As a woman my personal…
/r/MensRights31/08/23 02:37 PM
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Yeah but's not a "right", at least not infront of the law. I'm a woman btw and I think that feminism is way more needed in other parts of the world. In the west I would say that before the law we are equals, all in all. Depending on details and country you can argue about stuff like abortion laws, I guess. If anything, I think there are still SOME differences in interpersonal relationships, e.g. in the workplace, but that is often due to generational differences and will hopefully not be an issu…
/r/MensRights31/08/23 02:31 PM
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Agree. I love my partner and our relationship but I also know our limits. I think there would be a great chance that having kids would ultimately destroy our relationship, it wouldn't survive children. Being with my partner is way more important to me than having kids, though, so we don't have any. There are thousands other reasons for us to be childfree, of course, but I realized that I rather be with my partner and don't have kids than either having kids with him and ultimately break up or bre…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:53 PM
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I think that depends entirely on the people in the relationship and if their needs align. My partner and I live together but we both need, and grant each other, a lot of 'me time'. We also mostly sleep separately due to his snoring. It definitely is a big factor in our relationship. We also like to vacation separately. Ozr friends joke about our relationship but it works for us for over a decade now. Others want to be with their partner basically 24/7. If two such people find each other then I s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:48 PM
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Oh yeah I would agree with you that it would probably not go well with most women, I guess. Personally I would have probably not noticed, at least ten years ago. My partner sometimes jokes that my parents should have tested me for autism. But I think it was just awkwardness and insecurity as I've gotten way better with it. Now in my thirties I give people a lot of grace. I was on a date with a young guy in his mid twenties who insisted on taking me out. Very nervous and shy and there were a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:11 PM
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Entertainment, mostly, and trying to be a voice of somewhat normalcy? Idk. This sub simply fascinates me because it's so completely different from my real life experience. I'm fascinated by some of the mental gymnastics and interpretations of female behavior by some men here. Also how they're able to twist any- and everything into being women's fault. I don't see this behavior from men in real life at all. I meet well adjusted, kind and polite men who enjoy the company of women, who don't have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't say that they're not attracted anymore, it's just that the excitement simply isn't there anymore, and how could it be? It's always said that men crave variety but I think it's absolutely the same for women. Add to that the fact that women don't orgasm as often as men and that sex for women had a lot to do with their brains. I think because it's easier for men to orgasm, they're more content with the familiar relationship sex, while for women it can get boring. A woman could have Henry…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:44 PM
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I agree with you. Of course there are assholes out there, of both genders. And sometimes people vent about their frustrations. But for the most part I experience normal, sometimes boring, sometimes nice, sometimes exciting exchanges in real life. But truly hating ones? Never. Disappointing ones? Yes of course, that's human, some people will let you down. But if I had the view on the opposite gender or humanity as a whole as some people in this sub, then I would never even leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:08 PM
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Idk, I think both women and men here can seem quite bitter. I go out with very lovely guys. Most people are thankfully normal, kind human beings. Of course you can meet a few assholes here and there but if every guy you meet is an ass or every woman a bitch, then I would look at yourself as the common denominator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:58 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:51 PM
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Can you elaborate? I'm simply reporting on my experiences and what men have told me. I'm afraid that I don't really understand what you're trying to say, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:10 PM
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Eh yeah, we're not monogamous anymore, but our relationship was a monogamous one for 9 years before we decided to open it. So I know very well how it is to have a monogamous relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:09 PM
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Well, it works for us. We've been monogamous for nine years before opening up, we know both sides. We both prefer our current dynamic and lifestyle and because we value open communication, our own connection grew even more and our relationship is very stable and loving. We can, infact, eat our cake and have it, too. And both of us do. I don't disrespect monogamous relationships, I get them, having lived it myself for the longest time. I also don't see us as "more evolved" than others or some shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:08 PM
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That's absolutely possible. I think if we speak in generalizations women tend to be more attracted to confident men, while for men it doesn't really matter that much. In the end all of us can do is hope to find someone that fits. I'm sure that I still have a lot of characteristics that other men would not like and wouldn't put up with. On the other hand my partner also has characteristics, that other women would not tolerate but that aren't a problem for me, e.g. he needs a lot of space and time…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:59 PM
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Why would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:57 AM
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Yeah, it's a learning curve. I was quite awkward when I was a young adult. More confident than as a teenager but could still come across as anti-social or a bitch, even if that wasn't my intention. Thank god my partner looked past this when we started dating and he had enough charisma and social awareness for the both of us. He trained me to look people in the eyes when I was talking to them ffs 😆 Now a decade later we are in an open relationship and I date around and it's so much easier. I lear…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:18 AM
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I actually have a thing for bald men with a nicely groomed beard. Of course, I need to like the face first, but something about that style just does it for me. I noticed that I linger longer on dating app profiles of bald men and I swipe right more often than not. The thing is, being bald is WAY better than trying to save a receding hairline, the worst thing is having a few hairs on top but leaving longer hair on the sides. Or trying a Donald Trump thing. It's awful. I have a friend whose hair w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 10:00 AM
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I have a life partner and I am very happy with him. We both decided to open the relationship and so far have no interest in being monogamous again. I understand that monogamy is the default for most people, I lived it for the longest time. We just discovered that non-monogamy works really well for us, we are very secure and happy in our relationship and prioritize each other, but we do enjoy dating around and making new connections. For us it enriches our lives and makes us happy and it contribu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 01:58 AM
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Let me introduce myself then :) Stable upbringing, parents still together, low n-count when I met my partner in my twenties, first adult relationship, still going strong after a decade. Partner says it's the best relationship he's ever been in and he has way more experience in that than myself. Opened up the relationship to get more experiences and fun. Both are happy and successful in dating other people, relationship got even better, communication was already great but improved even more. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:51 PM
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Eh, I don't know if I agree with that. I'm pretty happy with myself and have been low n-count and monogamous for the most time, until my mid thirties. Now I date around and have fun just to spice things up and experience variety. It doesn't harm me emotionally, I make informed decisions and simply enjoy myself. I'm still successfully maintaining a relationship of a decade now and have a successful career. Nothing really changed since I've slept with more people except that I'm having fun with mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:39 PM
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Nah, never occurred to me. I met guys who were way taller than I thought they would be based on their photos and I met guys who were way shorter than I thought they would be. Had a fun and lovely time with all of them regardless. Also, I would think it would actually be a bad strategy for women who are dating to find a serious relationship. First of all you could miss out on a super cool guy and someone who is awesome in bed. From personal experience I can say that if a man is shorter in height …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:18 AM
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I'm from Europe and have no idea what those numbers mean. You could tell me any height and I would just go 'Ok'. Then again, I've never asked a date for their height before meeting them. Didn't even crossed my mind. Had awesome dates with guys who are 'short', but realistically they were around my height. They've also been confident and fun to hang out with so I assume they're not insecure about their height and don't have issues dating around. With online dating I'm actually more annoyed with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 08:06 AM
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They don't do it at the same time, though, now do they? Fact is that libido decreases very often in a ltr. I can guarantee you that a woman could be married to Henry Cavill and after a fews she wouldn't want to fuck him all the time as well. Yeah, if you meet someone new and you click and you're attracted, you want to have sex. It's new and exciting and you have something to explore. Of course there are men who contribute to the lack of desire in their wives but often enough it doesn't even have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:12 PM
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It's not earning it, though. A lot of women simply don't experience spontaneous desire. In a ltr it's even more difficult. Either you want your wife to get horny or you don't, but if you don't want to then don't complain that it's not happening magically. I mean at that point, what do you expect her to do? Squirt some lube into her vagina and you slide over her for a few minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:55 PM
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Yeah I think that may be true.For the fun of it I matched with a few guys in their early twenties who want to get with an older woman. But I honestly couldn't do it. Just having a few conversations with them showed that they were just babies. Totally cute and polite but I just can't get sexually attracted to them. If your reaction is an 'Aaaawww' instead of an 'Oh god yes' it's your sign that hooking up would be a very bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:27 PM
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Not too young, no. But a few years is ok. I figure as long as I can still pull them I might as well enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:12 PM
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I'm usually hooking up with guys who are 28-33 years old, something in that range. I first looked for men between 35 and 50 years old. I had a fantasy about an older, handsome guy, maybe divorced, with experience, who knows how to pleasure a woman. Quickly buried that fantasy. For me guys around 30 are the perfect age attraction wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:23 PM
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Let me introduce you to non-monogamous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 04:03 PM
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I thought so, too for myself. Turns out I'm spoiled by my partner. People never believe his age and he takes care of himself. Once we opened up our relationship and I saw what the average guy in his mid to late 30s looks like, I now meet guys who are a few years younger than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:37 PM
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Yes and no. There are words/definitions that 99% of humankind agrees upon. We may use different words to describe the term 'mirror' but content wise (almost) everyone will agree upon what a mirror is. That's not the case with all terms. On the one hand because they're influenced by e.g. culture and on the other hand because definitions of words can change over time. You can currently see that with the debate about terms like sex and gender or racism. In German the term 'Freier' used to describe …
/r/MensRights18/08/23 01:31 AM
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Yeah, because it's more of an abstract fear of the concept of men instead of actual individuals (except if you had bad experiences with concrete individual men). I think most men are just normal human beings, some are very lovely, some are neutral, some are jerks. Hopefully only a small minority are actually dangerous. Once you know a man personally you can categorize him respectively and act accordingly. As long as they remain in the big gray men-matter, you're not able to categorize. Logically…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 09:01 PM
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I enjoyed the movie more for the fun songs, the over the top of things, some very funny jokes, the aesthetics. I didn't really like the Hollywood feminism, culminating in that eyeroll inducing speech of that one woman. It just felt performative. I can't even find the correct words. It was quite superficial, like scratching on the surface to satisfy a general feminist itch without being actually thought provoking. I'm all for a feminist movie, actually, simply because of intellectual interest,not…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:38 PM
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But that's the thing, not everyone will necessarily agree with your definition of masculinity. And it doesn't mean that a man is not masculine if he doesn't want someone like the OP as a partner.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:25 PM
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Oh, I remember different fb groups I joined when I was interested in the topic. The different waves sneer against each other. The trans topic is a big issue nowadays. For me personally, I just pick and choose what I think makes sense without subscribing to all beliefs of specific feminist movements. I mean, I do that with everything anyways. I don't subscribe to the whole men's rights movement as well, doesn't mean that I disagree with every opinion. I don't think it's healthy to blindly follow …
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:23 PM
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I agree with you. I'm reading in this sub because of a general interest. I also don't think that all men here are racist tradcons, as they're often presented (although I'm sure those exist as well). But I just really had to roll my eyes reading this post and I don't know why people are falling for it. Men are criticizing 'insta thots' who fish for validation online but don't recognize when the same happens under their noses, just adjusted to their own preferences and biases? A little bit patheti…
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:13 PM
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Aren't you no true scotsmanning here? Who died and made you the king of real men? 😆 I think everyone should live the way they want and have nothing against traditional people living their traditional lifestyle even if it's not for me, but I think it's quite unfair and presumptuous to declare every man as non-masculine or unreal who don't agree with your opinions. Feel free to have your opinions but you shouldn't present them as facts.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 08:07 PM
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I guess it depends on the kind of feminism. E.g. radical, second wave feminists are very clear that it's not about men but about liberation from patriarchy. Possible benefits for men are seen merely as a nice byproduct but are not the main focus. Feminism has a lot of facettes and it seems that there are just as much conflicts among feminists as between feminists and anti-feminists. It seems to me that the different goals, opinions and sentiments under the feminist umbrella became so broad that …
/r/MensRights17/08/23 07:57 PM
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Depends on how you count it, either 3 years or five. Lost my virginity at 17, then nothing for 3 years. Attempted to have sex with a guy at 20, but was so nervous and shaking all over and was so clumsy, that nothing could happen 😆 had a ONS at 22 with a friend after knowing him for a year. Met my current partner at 24. Had normal fluctuating relationship sex for 9 years, then we opened up our relationship. Now having more frequent sex, both with my partner and other people. We were already in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:15 AM
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My dad just wants me happy. I'm in a happy relationship for a long time and my father is happy with that. We're childfree and my parents have no problem with that whatsoever and even say that in today's world it's probably a wise choice. If I would want kids, they would be happy for that as well as long as it would make me happy. I prefer my parents other parents who want to impose their own wishes and wants on their children. My parents see me as an individual with my own desires and definition…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 08:00 AM
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I mean, possibly. From my own current experience: I'm online dating, using dating apps. Matched with very handsome men, with the kind of faces and bodies one associates with male beauty. I have lovely conversations, sometimes followed up by lovely dates. I can definitely say they're attractive and I think a lot of women would agree with my opinion. I recently matched with a guy, in my opinion very cute, kind eyes. I know that objectively more women would find my other matches more attractive tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 07:51 AM
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There definitely is and sometimes you can even feel it before meeting the first time. I've had lovely and fun dates with guys I was attracted to and wouldn't have a problem continuing seeing them. I'm not looking for something serious so I don't need a spark for a good time. But if it's there, if it just clicks, it's a whole different level. I've recently met a guy online and I'm absolutely excited for our first date, really giddy and everything. We just clicked, the banter is awesome, it's a fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:59 AM
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I think that's a good approach. I had to cancel a date because I wasn't feeling well and didn't want to risk exposing the guy to any bug I might have caught. I still plan on seeing him and will initiate the scheduling of the next date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:39 AM
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Sex is not a form of payment or tool of transaction. Just as men shouldn't expect to receive sex for being nice to women, women shouldn't expect to receive a relationship or anything else for giving sex. Infact, the whole perception of sex is kind of icky, in that women giving it, men getting it. It should be seen as a mutually enjoyed activity, performed only for the activity itself, not for negotiation, manipulation or transaction. If you can't or don't want to have sex for the sake if sex, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:04 PM
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Yes, it's not easy, a lot of men prefer ONS, even if I tell them that this is not something that I'm looking for and even if they say that they would be open to and cool with a fwb arrangement. That doesn't mean that if I decide to have sex with them, that I'm doing it to get a fwb relationship. I have sex because in that moment I want to have sex with that person, no matter what may or may not happen afterwards. I don't use sex as a tool to get something else, I have sex because I actually want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:16 PM

Not necessarily. And even a normal pregnancy can have dire consequences for a woman afterwards. It's just that women deal with it. Incontinence, chronic pain, PPD, etc. Every single pregnancy brings the risk of unwelcome painful lifelong aftermaths. Therefore it's immoral to prevent a woman from having an abortion because not she forced to accept such risks. Pregnancy is brutal, for an unwilling woman it's torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:41 AM

I think people can actually change in all directions. Before I got with my partner, who had a higher n-count than me, I was pretty inexperienced and had the typical relationship views. We've been monogamous for 9 years and then opened up our relationship and my n-count increased. Our relationship does not suffer, it actually got even closer, our communication skills improved even more and there's such a feeling of absolute security, I can't even describe it. And I never thought that I would be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:31 AM
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Well, I do have a partner but we are childfree, so if he dies before me, it's possible that I will be alone at that point. I think I would be open to meeting someone again but I wouldn't actively pursue it. I immensely enjoy being on my own as it is. I've been a loner my whole life and my relationship works because we give each other a loooot of time alone, e.g. my partner likes to drive aimlessly around for hours after work, I like doing solo travel, etc. So the prospect of being alone doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:15 AM
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I'm a woman and I don't get this as well. Don't have sex you actually don't want and keep sex and anything else separated. If you have sex, expect only sex, if you want something else, state it clearly, don't mix those two up. I'm not looking for a relationship but I'm interested in finding a suitable guy for a fwb situation. Someone can tell me they want that as well but if I'm sleeping with him, then only because I want to in that moment regardless of my overall wish of a more permanent fwb re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:47 AM
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Idk dude, I'm a woman with a less than ideal body, I'm chubby, but with that I also have bigger boobs and a nice enough ass. I've never heard a man talk about hip dips or thigh gaps but had men salivating after my boobs, telling me I have a great apps and complimenting my eyes (I have big round eyes, so that's what they always comment on first). I've been in a relationship for a long time and after we decided to open it up, I was quite insecure about my body, I mean, I still don't think it's tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:47 AM
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Honestly, ime even enough very fit guys like plus size women. When I started online dating, I never swiped right on gorgeous fit men, I thought that would be unrealistic anyway. Then I noticed that quite a few fit guys liked my profile. I matched with them and was quite flabbergasted and asked them why a fit guy in their 20s was interested in a chubby woman in her 30s. All of them basically told me that they don't care that I'm a little bit older and that they like meat on a woman and they liked…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 09:33 AM
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IIRC several hotels are involved in trials about human trafficking. I can imagine that hotel employees are now trained to be super diligent when it comes to anything remotely looking suspicious.
/r/MensRights16/08/23 08:58 AM
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Just physically speaking, I would say that I have tendencies/preferences, but not really a type. The most important thing is that I like his face. How that can look like doesn't really follow a specific rule. I found a lot of different faces attractive, from a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. There's not a specific type of nose, eye shape or lips that I like. Either I'm attracted to the whole face package or I'm not. For the rest, there are tendencies. I have a weakness for men with a shaved…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:57 PM
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As a plus size woman I agree. However, I'm also with a guy, who is not sexually jealous,only romantically and after a lot of years of monogamy we opened up the relationship (I insisted on monogamy for the longest time). My partner is attracted to me but if he wanted to, he would have no problem finding a slimmer, younger woman for a relationship, he just doesn't want to. He also has no issues finding younger, slimmer women just for a fling (he looks ten years younger than he actually is and comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:37 PM
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I don't have any debt and I never borrowed anything from him. I made enough from my part time job for my monthly costs and he paid for dinners and such when I visited him over the weekend.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 12:03 PM
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I work a corporate job while my partner works for himself in a blue collar job. I'm already making more than him and if I decide to climb the corporate ladder, it will be even more. He's doing alright but will never be rich. We never merged finances completely but we have a common account for joined bills (rent, groceries, etc.). We started with 50:50 but after a while I increased my own contribution to our shared finances because I'm of the opinion that as I make more, I should carry more of th…
/r/MensRights15/08/23 10:56 AM

When I'm on a first date, I usually try to pay for it. If the man absolutely insist on it, I won't fight him because I understand that for some guys it's some kind of male pride. But I make good money and I enjoy treating someone. Then again, first dates here usually low effort. If a man insists on going to a restaurant I wosay no, but I usually suggest going out for drinks, coffee, or just a walk in the park. I find those kind of dates more enjoyable anyway. If you're on a first date, it's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:10 AM
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I live in a country where prostitution is legal. Ex-prostitutes, who worked the streets, report about a very grim reality. Most prostitutes do not want to do the job. They don't do it for fun, they do it because they think they don't have another choice. The number of sex worker, who actually like their job, are free and secure enough to deny clients they're not interested in, and are not in a situation where they need the job to survive, is very low. The reality for the majority of prostitutes …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:57 AM
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Idk I'm 99% straight and only find very few women actually sexually attractive, in that, they get me aroused. But I think that a lot of women are more beautiful or cuter than man in a non-sexual way, like looking at a nice picture - I'm not getting aroused by it but it's still pleasant to look at. Out of curiosity I'm going out with a woman, I like her very much but tbh it's more of a friendship. But I still did go down on her, simply because I wanted to know what it's like. What I'm trying to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:44 AM
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Yep true, plus men vary in what they find attractive. I'm definitely plus size and should lose weight. I post in my dating app bio that I'm plus size, I also have a pic on there without any makeup. Luckily for me I have a pretty face and thus no issue attracting men way fitter than me body wise. Maybe there's also a difference between the US and Europe, but I get complimented IRL and a lot of men, very fit men at that, have told me that they actually like someone with more meat to grab on. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:38 PM
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True but that works both ways. Tell men here you are in a relationship with an average guy or say you know plenty of relationships where the guy is average and you get "AF/BB" , "Does he get regular sex?" Etc. People have their opinions and bend everything to their own narrative. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:16 PM
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I was the one who insisted on monogamy. My partner has never been a sexually jealous person, only romantically jealous. That's why we are just open and not poly as it's the same for me, or it became the same for me once I felt truly, absolutely secure in our relationship. I know that most people are monogamous and therefore can't comprehend it but for us it's working really well, nobody is checked out of the relationship, our sex life still remains great and our communication is better than ever…
/r/MensRights14/08/23 05:15 AM
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People can also change in every direction, though. When I met my partner, I had almost no experience, didn't have a 'hoe phase' during university and had all my major sexual milestones with my partner. A decade later we opened up our relationship simply to have variety and my partner was telling me for years that I've missed out during my younger years anyway. I never thought that I would ever have an open relationship but here I am and I enjoy it, my partner also enjoys the variety he now has. …
/r/MensRights13/08/23 09:22 PM
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This would not be possible within the churches I have experience with. There's no way parents of a 18 year old young women would allow a 30 year guy, an outsider at that, try to woo their daughter. Maybe it's different in the US but here in Germany in those conservative churches that simply wouldn't happen. Teens and young adults are interacting with each other. An 18 year old girl will be interested in a 20 year old guy she may have known fot years already, but a 30 year old new guy? Fat chance…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:16 PM
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Well, maybe, I'm not from the US and my experience is with a "free protestant" church, this is what we call self-organized churches here, for which the state doesn't collect church taxes. Most of those are definitely not leftist but there's also no raunchy humor going on. In the very strict ones, people are married off at 18/19 years, even the guys. Dating is not allowed, if there's interest it's either marry or split. In the more liberal churches people date but sex before marriage is still not…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:48 PM
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Definitely. I was attending a church for a few years as a teenager. Non-believers or agnostic men would not be happy with a truly believing woman. First of all, definitely no sex before marriage. Then church and community. Not just on Sunday. They have their little women circles, organize stuff all the time, are on a cleaning roster for the facilities, etc. A lot of time is spent in the folds of the church community and you would be expected to participate. A lot of times it would be hard for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:23 AM
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It certainly isn't only the photos but the photos are BAD. A lot of guys look down right angry in their pics and often enough I thought "Ok, he looks like a serial killer". I'm using dating apps for a few month now and what turns me off profiles is basically: 1) shitty photos, no face pics or all photos with sunglasses - we all look better with sunglasses on, let me see your face 2) no further information, no bio, nothing - even if I like the photos I would swipe left. First reason because that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 09:06 AM
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Finally a normal take. My partner never had issues getting with women, whether for relationships or just for fun. We opened up our relationship after being monogamous for a very long time and he still hasn't issues finding women just for friendship and sex, even though they know that he's in a commited relationship and there's no chance for anything more. He's in a relationship with me because he wants to be in a relationship with me, monogamous or open, doesn't matter, and sex is really only a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:56 PM
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I'm not saying that I agree with such behavior, I simply want to explain it and the intent behind it because men in this sub always interpret wrong intent into it instead of only explaining the outcome on their end. In regards to "wanting to take it slow": you can have a sexual desire for someone and still be of the opinion that in order that the establishment of a committed relationship is done successfully, too early sex is contraproductive. Basically, she wants to srew him but also doesn't wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:51 PM
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As long as you want to only fuck them there's no problem. I don't think that I would want to be in a relationship with an Italian man but they sure know how to have fun in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:24 AM
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And the same is true for women. Personally, I don't "withhold" sex because 1) I don't believe that sex is something that a woman gives to a man, b) I'm only having sex when I actually want it anyway, and c) a man, wo thinks I may have sex too fast and judges me for it, wouldn't be a man I wanted to be in a relationship anyway. But there are insecure women, who don't want to be judged by the men they actually want to be in a relationship with and who think the man will think she's not relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:21 AM
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I mean, if you are having sex for validation you're already doing something wrong. You should (only) have sex because you actually desire sex. If you have unwanted sex for a long period of time it will damage your psyche and can kill your libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:52 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:01 AM
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One thing is innate, the other is behavior you can control. You have influence over your n count, therefore you shouldn't judge someone for DOING something that you do yourself. On the other hand, it's not hypocritical if you have brown eyes but want to date blue-eyed women, that's just a preference. You can't influence which eye colour you provide. Hypocrisy is when you judge other people for ACTS that you participate in yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:14 PM
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I'm not religious but I did go to church for several years as a teenager. If the former pornstar becomes anything like the religious women I know, truly finds her faith and beliefs in a strict interpretation of the bible then yeah, I would think that the chances of divorce are lower with her than with a non-believing average woman. Also, I don't think that anyone can simply decide to find faith. I'm a believer but I don't consider myself a Christian as I don't believe in the trinity and this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 11:06 PM
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For the phase thing: I think that's fine as it is proven enough in real life that it's indeed a thing (for both sexes) and that people mellow out, find committed relationships and live a content, monogamous life with their spouse, proven that it was indeed just a phase and not a lifesryle thst goes on for decades. For the born again virgin stuff: yeah, I don't get it either. I'm not religious but I attended church for several years as a teenager (youth group). Although I don't agree with the tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 10:22 PM
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Thank you! I feel like I'm going crazy here. I don't know any grown man who would make a fuss about women having sex with several men prior to them. I don't know if it's a generational thing or a location thing (I'm in Europe) but it's simply not that big of a deal men on this sub want to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:44 AM
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Unappealing only if you see commitment as a price to pay instead of something that you both want because you want to be with each other. Call me crazy, but I and most women don't regard our presence outside of the bedroom as a punishment or payment men have to make to be able to fuck us. Commit to someone because you WANT to, because you want to be with her and actually enjoy her company instead of seeing it as something you have to endure to get pussy. Jesus, I swear, sometimes I can't with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:36 AM
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Haha I find it super funny that you say she's projecting because she's making conclusions on men's perspectives while this is all what red pill guys do all the time. You can tell them all the time that their interpretation of women's behavior and mindset is not how women see it and they will just say that you're lying or that women actually don't know what they're thinking or that in the end it doesn't matter what they're thinking, it only matters how men interpret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:23 AM
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I feel the same way and that has been my experience as well. My partner and I started out casually and actually both didn't want anything serious at that time. He just got out of a long relationship and I haven't had sex for a couple of years at that point and was happy to play his rebound girl. A decade later and we're very happy and in love. I'm also going out on dates since we've opened up our relationship and had no problems meeting up with the same guy several times. If you're good company …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:19 AM
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Exactly. I don't have sex I don't actually want to have and I don't regard it as some kind of exchange for things I want from the guy. I'm not a prostitute. I have sex because I want sex and that's the only thing I expect to get in that moment. I find this whole concept so weird. If I would be interested in commitment from a guy then I express exactly that, whether that's before or after sex. If I want sex, then I express that. Treat those things as separate things and there won't be any confusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:13 AM
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I mean, it depends. I definitely cleaned my partner's apartment when he had a long day at work, we weren't living together yet officially but I had the keys. But we were already dating and sleeping with each other. I don't think I would that for a guy I just a few dates with, that would be overbearing and creepy in my opinion. Then again, I also don't wait ages to have sex, we had the typical sex on the third date process 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:05 AM
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Yeah, I get matches on Tinder but not every guy will actually send a message. I had a completely different experience with badoo, where everytime I matched with a guy he messaged me. Oftentimes I reach out first as well and there are definitely a lot of guys who don't respond after a match, so 🤷‍♀️ I figure that's just dating with apps. I needed to adjust to that as I've only recently started using them. More than a decade ago I did online dating on dating websites and it was completely differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 08:45 AM
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I don't think it's vague. You are in a relationship and it's going on and is planned further to be long-term. Another term would be life partner, that's roughly the translation from a German term we use to identify people who are not married but in a long-term committed relationship, not merely just dating as gf and bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:47 AM
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Besides the ridiculousness of those categories in the first place, this is just moving the goalpost and claiming something as fact that can neither be proven nor disproven. Claim: promiscuous women will regret their actions later in life because they will not find a partner and will be lonely. Reality: promiscuous women have no issue finding a partner for a stable, long-term relationship later in life. Moving the goalpost: well, maybe, but they're not actually happy as they're not actually attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:18 PM
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Huh? Why is marriage that important? I met my partner when we were in our 20s, now a decade later we're the happiest we've been but not married. Marriage is neither a necessity nor a guarantee for a functional and happy long-term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:00 PM
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Exactly. I'm in a LTR. Do we have our boring phases? Of course, such is life. But we're both still invested in finding excitement, going on adventures, spending time together but also apart - distance makes the heart grow fonder and all that. Invest in the small and the big things in your relationship and you will be fine. As long as both are open to trying new things, going to new places, experiencing new things, the relationship will be interesting enough for both to keep it going. If your lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:59 PM
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I just needed to google the term and I disagree, they're sexy. But I also like the combination of angst and lust, so maybe that's just me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:48 AM
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I mean, yeah, there's something about him. Some men, even if they're not conventionally pretty, just have some sexual aura around them. For me, another example would be Aidan Gillen or Andrew Elvis Miller. There's just something that goes beyond the physical attraction. Typical pretty men like Chris Pine or Orlando Bloom don't really do it for me, they just seem kind of bland.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:44 AM
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Huh? I'm a woman myself and I think it is a binary yes/no question. Especially if it's a stranger on the street and we wouldn't meet again otherwise. If he was interested in me, there's no other way than to approach and ask, otherwise the chance won't be there anymore. I don't know if it's a generational issue or what, I'm a Millenial and never had any issues with being approached by strangers, as long as they're respectful. I don't see it as harrassment or rude being approached while shopping o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 07:28 AM
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Maybe that also depends on age, socialization and experience? I'm a Millenial woman and since I've started using dating apps, I could see how hard it must be for men nowadays. That was even more confirmed since I started to look for other women. I'm not saying that men are always great, but it's far easier to get into contact with men and have fun banter, meeting up, etc. I'm currently seeing one woman casually and have no energy to go through the whole process again for another. As a woman I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:21 AM
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Yes and no. There are things that tirn me on in novels, that I would never want in real life. I like reading dark romance and dark erotica / thrillers and there's some shit that maybe turns me on as a fantasy but I would never want to actually experience it, e.g. overly obsessive men, rape, etc. Just because it works in your fantasy doesn't mean it will work irl. On the other hand there are also things that turn me on and that I wouldn't mind to try out myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:19 PM
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Not all of the time, but we are in an open relationship and when I go out on dates I share my location with him for safety reasons. He doesn't require it but I myself feel better when I do so. If I'm meeting someone new, I share as much information as possible with my bf and check in regularly with him as well and he always knows where I'm at. This gives us both peace of mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:08 PM
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I never saw my sexuality as something to use to have power over men. First of all, I neither want nor need it, and second of all, I don't think that most men are so dumb to be actually used like that. There's also not really anything in it for me, tbh. I have a good paying job and have no problems at all paying for my own stuff. When I'm on dates I regularly pay the tab for my date and I. I only 'use' male sexual desire to get what we hopefully both want - a good time with each other. Though I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:01 PM
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I think the problem is, if you want someone special badly, you're more likely recruiting someone for a role than recognizing someone for actually being special and complementing your life. When my partner and I started dating we were both not looking for a relationship. He just got out of a LTR and I was happy to be his rebound. We're both people that actually are content and happy being alone and we still spend a lot of time on our own, having separate vacations, etc. I am never looking for rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:51 PM

100%. Nothing against super fit bodies, hey, they're nice to look at. But I could never be with a man with a banger body whose face I don't like. I'd rather have someone with a great face and not so great body than the other way around, and I've been with such men. I think it's true for a lot of men as well. I have a pretty face but could definitely lose weight but I don't have issues meeting up with attractive guys and especially if they like the boobs and the butt, they will deal with the bell…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:24 PM
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Ir, you know, love. I make more money than my partner and don't rely on his income. I also have no problem 'sharing' him for sex and vice versa, thus open relationship. But we both would be heartbroken if the other would actually love someone else. That's why, at least for myself, I could never be in a poly relationship. I'm greedy about his love, that belongs only to me, I earned it, damn it :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:12 PM
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Not inherently, no, but there are tendencies. I mean, isn't the defense of AWALT that every woman has the potential to fuck you over and that there is a pattern within female behavior (hypergamy) even if it doesn't mean that it pertains to literally every woman? It's the same with age. People tend to be a certain way in their twenties and they tend to be a certain way in their 40s. Of course there will always be outliers but that doesn't mean that there are no tendencies at all related to/influe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 09:31 AM
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Why does it need to be one sided though? If you crave variety and can separate sex from feelings, why do you think that women can't do the same? I'm in an open relationship with a high value man, he's good looking, self-employed and successful with women in their 20s while we are in our thirties. He would laugh about petty men who want to have an open relationship but only for themselves. You must be very insecure in order to demand something like that. It's also not in the spirit of ethical non…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:59 AM
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Yep, that's pretty much it. I'm still in my first serious adult relationship, going strong for a decade now and it's actually only getting better, and we had some ROUGH times. But even without an abundance of previous relationship experiences I knew that we have a pretty good basis going on (attraction is available, he isn't abusive, he wants the relationship to work) and that it doesn't make sense to hop from one relationship to the next if no major incompatibilities are present because you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:51 PM

Again, it depends on the individual. I think my partner got softer (for lacknof a better word) over the years and is more able to express/show his emotions. I hope it's because over the years his trust in me and our relationship helped with that. While when we were younger I've only really seen him cry during the time his mother was dying, I now catch him shedding tears during movies, when talking about his late dog, etc. If anything, my love only grew for him because of it. I feel proud that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:06 PM

Ask them why. The ex of a female family member of mine had the perfect dream setup a lot of traditional guys claim they want. He was US military stationed in our country, met her, got her pregnant with the first kid, married her, took her to the US and had 3 additional kids. She was a typical SAHM, did the childcare, cooked, cleaned, and made sure that he got to his job on time etc. Apparently it wasn't enough for him as he rather cheated on her and did drugs. Once she finally separated his life…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:18 PM
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I stumbled upon the topic years ago as a young adult. In my country circumcision is not done regularly. The majority of circumcisions are for religious reasons and a minority for medical reasons but most of the male populstion is not circumcised. I stumbled upon a video of a circumcision and it haunted me for a long time. I think everyone who wants this to be done to their child should sit through such a video first. I bet a lot of people would decide against it.
/r/MensRights19/06/23 03:48 AM
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Lol if I were on a date with you I'd first ask for a current negative STD test 😆 I don't really care if virgin or not as long as I find the guy hot, but I do care about safety. If I think about it, a virgin would actually ease my mind in regard to STDs and it could be really fun to be someone's first. However, oftentimes the reason for someone's virginity is simply that they're not good looking and if I have sex with someone I want to be aroused and find the guy hot. It would be very rare cases …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:08 PM
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I would love to date a bi man. Man on man action is so hot and a MMF threesome would be the dream
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:59 PM
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I wonder about this myself. I only see this topic discussed online on reddit. Not once in my 30 something years was that EVER a discussion topic among women I know, be it during university or with housewives or mothers. I also don't know a single man who went abroad specifically to meet a woman. I think I remember a documentary years ago about middle aged and even older men who tried to meet Ukranian women 10-20 years younger than themselves - unsurprisingly nobody was successful. It was painful…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 08:43 PM
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I'm in my 30s, so maybe a lot has changed, Idk, but when I was a teen and a young adult, nonverbal consent was really not that hard to figure out for guys. I never really had an issue that a guy was not able to read the room and not know how I would react if he tried to kiss me. There were guys that fell in love with me but never tried anything because they knew I wasn't interested. I think there was only guy who really blindsided me with his interest in me, but he try to tell me via text and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:52 PM
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Thank you! I'll keep your recommendations in mind :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:41 PM
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