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Knave_of_Opossums/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 04:08 PM
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Unless your thesis isn't well substantiated, you are not going to upset me. I can't believe I have to say that. If you actually want to have a debate about this, I'm happy to. We may both learn something.
/r/ExRedPill22/06/22 05:05 AM
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How was it maternal, then?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 11:09 PM
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So, they literally reacted point for point how they would react to a baby per your description, including "holding and codling you, and rocking you back and forth." Well then, pardon my skepticism.
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 10:24 PM
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No, I'm pretty sure I do. You're conflating any kind of helpful or compassionate behavior with maternal instinct. I see this shit all the time, especially amongst red pillers online, and it's so god damned stupid. Anytime a woman is even remotely nice she must be displaying her "nurturing maternal instincts." Or, assuming you're thoroughly confident in your assessment, how exactly were these instances a manifestation of "maternal nature"?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 07:38 PM
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generic prosocial behaviour =/= maternal behaviour
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 06:02 PM
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How is being understanding when someone is vulnerable "maternal nature"?
/r/ExRedPill21/06/22 07:30 AM
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The fact is, I did try to find support for your claims. My search yielded nothing even remotely supportive of your argument. I'm not saying you're wrong, and your wording is somewhat unusual, so perhaps you meant something other than what I've taken your statement to mean. I can admire anyone being passionate about a subject and coming up with theories based on their current understanding, but I would still refrain from making bold statements like that, especially when those statements lack empi…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/22 02:07 AM
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She has a healthy flush from all the cannibalizing competing tribes.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 07:35 AM
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https://imgur.com/a/wvYti8j
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 07:22 AM
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I don't dislike you, nor am I offended, nor am I attempting to "humiliate" you. I just happen to question a lot of the points you make. If you are going to make a massive claim about how men and women see the world, I am going to want to dig into it. What does it even mean to "see the world in terms of feelings instead of objects?" I honestly can't even comprehend that. I'm trying to imagine how that could even be tested empirically. If you are getting some of your ideas from pop-sci books I hon…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 04:09 AM
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They thought they had it in the bag by specializing in preying on abundant krill, but we really threw them for a loop with the whole agriculture thing.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 02:54 AM
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World's most populous megafaunal mammal!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!! Take that crabeater seals.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 02:53 AM
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I read the whole article, and I didn't notice any claims made about women "seeing the world in terms of feelings and relationships." I couldn't find the exact study, as it wasn't linked by the article, but I took a brief look at the study authors work between 2013 and 2017 and I didn't see any claims like that made in the studies themselves. The December 2013 study which I'm pretty sure was the one being covered by the bbc article mentioned mainly that male brains tend towards basically assistin…
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 02:50 AM
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In a sense. I mean, we are seeing a resurgence of a lot of old beliefs more recently, anti-Semitism is also on the rise globally. The red pill is really just a symptom of a much wider issue. It's not per say the cause itself, though of course it likely feeds into it.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/22 02:30 AM
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Oh it has reach. Lots of fundamental aspects of the red pill ideology are hardly new. Plenty of people who are not even familiar with the term have picked up ideas disseminated by it, bolstering the ones already deeply entrenched in our society, that everyone has internalized to some degree.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 08:50 PM
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The way you worded it, it comes across as you saying "look, don't judge me because I wear revealing clothing, I'm not really a slut and I wouldn't do this if I didn't have to." It came across as you implying the judgment would be legitimate if the woman had made the choice. I rescind my criticism of your post, but at the same time please try to understand how different phrasings of things can lead to different interpretations by others.
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 08:44 PM
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I could be mistaken, but I don't think we're quite at a point where we can just look at brain scans to determine something as complex as how someone "sees the world." If you read a study, or an article reporting on a study, that came to the conclusion you mentioned, it would likely have involved more than just scanning brains. If you make a claim that you state is backed up by the extant literature, you should probably be able to at least find the study you got the understanding from using key w…
/r/ExRedPill18/06/22 08:32 PM
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can confirm
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 10:24 AM
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Bawk bawk chicken
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 05:45 AM
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Hahahahahahaha. C'mon, I'm genuinely curious how you think I should live my life, me being a woman and all.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 05:40 AM
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Is it that you read my comments on the "manipulation" post and know you're outmatched?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 05:28 AM
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How kind of you master, but if, as you say, I am even a bit ignorant, can't you find it in your heart to educate me so as to allow me to shed my ignorance?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 05:21 AM
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What you will find is that, in generic situations, men see the world in terms of objects and their qualities, and women see the world in terms of feelings and relationships. Curious what study this came from and how this is being measured. Could you send a link?
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 04:58 AM
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Please I'm just a stupid woman, I need your genius brain to guide me so that I don't make any oopsies in my pretty feminine life. Tell me how I should live, master!
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 04:45 AM
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I wish you wouldn't have framed the clothing discussion like that. Should women be judged for dressing "less conservatively"? Ironically, I'm the opposite. I would dress relatively immodestly if I had the body for it. I would hate to think that someone, especially another woman, would judge me for that choice.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 04:31 AM
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Tell us more, o great one. Bless us with your knowledge
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 04:26 AM
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No way this is not a troll
/r/ExRedPill17/06/22 04:11 AM
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I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's such a horrific life to live from such a young age. I can't even imagine the level of trauma you carry with you. It's definitely possible to carry hatred towards women due to those early life experiences, especially if you didn't have any good role models to balance them out. I (woman) had an abusive, alcoholic father who tormented me in all sorts of grotesque ways, but I was lucky enough to mostly avoid any kind of misandry because almost all my grade s…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:21 PM
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I agree that it's better than waiting around and hoping you just happen to meet someone you really like, but it's not really working well for me, unfortunately. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 08:17 AM
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My experience using OLD has been that it's very mechanical. It almost feels like a waste. When you've been spending a lot of time with someone, and you suddenly realize that you wouldn't mind being more than friends. And you can tell they feel the same. That pleasant feeling... It's hard to come by. And it's rare for it to come about in a forced setting. Some people are just lucky and really hit it off on a date. They feel the spark right away. But that's not super common. Usually you need some …
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:51 AM
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I didn't ask the pharmacist out, because it was a stupid and bad idea. I face problems because I'm such a shut-in and an introvert. As I mentioned in the forever alone post, I once didn't speak to anyone for 2 years. Also because my personality is horrible. I have had experiences like I described, but nothing ever came of them, unfortunately. I regret not taking initiative then.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 07:21 AM
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You should wait. See if with more interactions the interest increases or fades. And you don't have to limit yourself to one woman at a time. Hang out with a lot of them, and let things grow naturally before making a move. If you and a woman have mutual interest, it will become clear. It's not the same as just being friends.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 04:02 AM
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You say you vibe with these women, yet when I asked you if there was anyone you had special feelings for you specifically mentioned your high school crush. So what made that one different?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 03:48 AM
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Not attractive per say, that's not really the word for it.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 03:46 AM
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If you take anything away from our conversation, it should be this: if you want a long term relationship, you have to demonstrate that you have special feelings for one person. A lot of the behavioral and vocal cues that demonstrate that are not under conscious control and those that are can be very difficult to replicate consistently and accurately if you aren't truly "feeling it." Which is why you absolutely must find someone you feel that way about. That is you absolute best chance for a rela…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 03:33 AM
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That's where you're mistaken. Those feelings cause you to act in subtly different ways around the person and cause you to "vibe together" if she shares the feelings. This is a genuine pair-bond formation attempt by your body. She would have 100 percent caught onto that, and if she was interested as well she might have started to act more personally towards you. Did you talk to her much, or not really?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 03:27 AM
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I see. Well, as much as this sounds defeatist, you want to look for a relationship like that. Those ones will have by far the highest chance of working out. Just put yourself out there, and try to find someone who you personally adore, and who shares a moderate amount of interests with you. If you want to be scientific about it, you can look up what traits humans pair-bond assortatively for, to get a sense of what you should have in common.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 03:09 AM
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Okay. Well that sucks. It sounds like it could have genuinely worked out. Is there any way you could contact her now?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 02:59 AM
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Hm. Well a lot of it is more vibe than anything. Have you ever met a woman you were absolutely crazy about? And I don't mean in a sexual way.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 02:44 AM
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Look, just going off of our previous conversations, if you can't even comprehend being attracted to someone for reasons outside their physical appearance, I don't think you can expect to gain a long term relationship. Of course you could try to fake a particular interest in them, which I hear is a common PUA strategy, but to expect to be able to keep up the act, imo, is pretty naïve.
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 02:40 AM
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What are you looking for in a girlfriend/wife?
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 02:25 AM
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lol
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 02:21 AM
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Also, it's kind of weird to say that "you treated them like straight men and they started acting like straight men." Um, likely, no, they were just acting like regular women. It almost comes across as you restricting personhood to men, as if any time a women just acts normal and platonic she might as well be a "man."
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 01:34 AM
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Okay, sounds like you completely disregarded what I said. If you are going to enter into a relationship with someone you start platonic with, you HAVE to make sure that your interest is really strong, or it probably won't work out. Plus, even if you start out "treating them like a straight man," once they express interest you have to start acting more romantically and show interest back. It's not a matter of being desperate, per say (though that's also unattractive) it's a matter of not being th…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 01:15 AM
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Are you genuinely interested in a long term relationship with any of these women in particular, or are you only interested in sex and is one as good as the next? And when I say "in particular," has there ever been any one that you could really see yourself living with happily for many years, or do you just want a relationship with anyone, anyone at all, c'mon please I'm desperate, please will anyone take a chance on me, I'd literally date anyone, etc, etc. I notice a lot of men on dating apps wi…
/r/ExRedPill16/06/22 12:50 AM
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How can one be certain the interest is genuine, though? It's not unusual for women (or men) to be suspicious of someone much better looking than themselves showing (apparent) authentic interest in a long term relationship. The insecurity is warranted and shouldn't be derided. People should mind their own business.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 11:48 PM
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Probably because they seek LTR in those cases. If people see them as insecure, it's because they don't understand that's she's not looking for a STR/ONS
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 11:25 PM
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Some women are more gullible (or desperate) than others.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 11:20 PM
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Well the notebook is creepy, but it's not redpill. I like your idea of good movies for redpill detox, though. Although try to make sure it's healthy from the woman's perspective too.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 10:42 PM
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I can't help you. If you see this as redpill you'll see any love triangle romance as redpill, in which case......
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 10:10 PM
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Well not really since she leaves her husband for him, so he's not getting cucked. And the alpha is "committing," so how is this AFBB?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 07:54 PM
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most people say you're absolutely deformed and hideous?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/22 07:48 PM
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I feel like the reasons behind a lot of men's loathing of women are a bit more numerous and complex than that...
/r/ExRedPill14/06/22 01:51 AM
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Its easy to say 'they hate women' and imagine them as mustache twirling villains that make fun of and mistreat women out of some sort of psychopathic pleasure um actually so many are actually like this, especially (ironically) MGTOWs.
/r/ExRedPill14/06/22 01:10 AM
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easily horses, not even a competition.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/22 12:40 AM
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I mean, the wolf study is how the alpha/beta idea began, so that's probably why people always bring it up when it's mentioned. Also, pretty much regardless of the species it's a false dichotomy. Nature is never so precise. Some individual animals have higher reproductive success than others, and they "achieve" this through various means. If you have more questions about lions or horses I'm happy to do my best to answer them.
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 07:50 PM
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What are you talking about? Are you saying I would be accused of BPD or NPD if I told a therapist I would leave someone if they insulted me like that? If my partner were to offer polite criticism on some decision I made, or something along those lines, I would take it seriously, but if someone is insulting your appearance, that's just abuse. OP said he was insulting pretty much every aspect of her appearance. If my partner were to say, "ugh, your breasts are so small, god they're awful, it's har…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 02:04 AM
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No, "sexually desire" also has long-term and romantic connotations to a native English speaker, I would say way more so than "turned on," at least where I live. "Horny" is probably the ideal, but if it's not allowed, "sexually desire" is not a substitute by any means. Best just to write horny with a missing symbol or something. You could also say something like "what traits immediately bring your mind to sex" or "what characteristics of a person make you immediately think of f*cking them," so ju…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 12:16 AM
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I'm 22 now, and I wouldn't have tolerated this even as a kid. Yes, he was manipulative and abusive, but the fact is that, in addition to choosing young targets, owing to their naivety, they also choose targets who have very low self-esteem. It sounds like OP is both. My mother was 33 when she started dating my father, and it was not her naivety that made my father choose her. She had a lot of life experience at that point, but was still a total doormat. She tolerated a lot because she didn't thi…
/r/ExRedPill12/06/22 12:05 AM
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*Edit*: Please actually go to a therapist. Tolerating this level of abuse is unusual, at least, as far as I can tell. If I was with someone I would leave the minute they "criticized" one aspect of my physical appearance, especially in a joking manner. How could you let such blatant mistreatment of yourself go on for so long? It points to really serious self-esteem issues. You also say you weren't even the one to end the relationship. Can you honestly say that without the distance that his breaku…
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 12:48 AM
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"starting" to turn into emotional abuse, lol
/r/ExRedPill11/06/22 12:47 AM
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Opposite happened. They assumed just personality, or "character" traits. Back to the drawing board.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 11:54 PM
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Maybe something like: "what traits in a person (/man) make you immediately horny(/turned on)," and just leave it open ended by saying traits, or you could say traits then put in parentheses: (physical, behavioral, etc.). Though that could be more likely to throw off the results. But conversely if you don't specify, they might assume you mean just physical traits.
/r/ExRedPill10/06/22 06:56 PM
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whereas men seem to vote for a society which works for everybody are you so sure about that?
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 12:30 AM
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^^^ Your average sociologist ^^^
/r/ExRedPill09/06/22 12:00 AM
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You: I never got into the weird stuff. Also You: Femalesssss are destroying WESTERN CIVILIZATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 11:56 PM
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Also I fear the wording of your question isn't great. A lot of people, esp. women, are going to interpret that to mean LTR.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 10:08 PM
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Could you also link the askmen one.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 10:05 PM
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English seems not to be your first language, I was being sarcastic. Obviously sampling bias is going to be massive if you just ask a question on a subreddit like that. I'm aware. Though judging by your own post history you still consider it worth attempting, so I'm not sure why you're pointing out to me that it's too flawed to be used. Also, there were other posts of yours that included open-ended questions that had a pretty large percentage of men putting personality traits front and center. Wh…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 09:09 PM
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And askwomen link just goes to the main page of the subreddit.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:07 PM
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Also "tiny accelerators"? You keep saying that things other than physical appearance have no bearing on sexual attraction in men, then say when pressed say: "oh they do, but not that much, so don't even think about them." My argument is not that physical appearance is less important than talent for men's attraction, merely that talent and competence play a role in attraction. Also, you keep ignoring the points I've been making, that, from my perspective, contradict previous claims of yours. Care…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:06 PM
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wow yeah thanks for telling me that's it's not a substitute for actual scientific research. I wouldn't have otherwise guessed. Also, had you actually previously read the study you linked?
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 06:58 PM
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The graph you sent is the trade-off between warmth/trustworthiness and attractiveness, not attractiveness and status. I already addressed the prioritization of warmth/kindness by women in my last response. If the writer of the textbook was an author of the study that just makes things more pathetic since he directly contradicts his own study, sex differences were clearly most pronounced in the long-term category. Maybe he didn't author that section. The study doesn't include talent/confidence as…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 08:47 AM
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The hymen is meant to reduce the likelihood of infection of the sex organs prior to puberty.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:25 AM
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ur textbook kinda sucks
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 07:03 AM
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Ok I can't even deal with this. First of all, I don't even know where you got that summary because the study shows the literal opposite of fucking everything you're saying. Firstly, it says right in the abstract that sex differences in preference for status/resources over attractiveness are actually more pronounced for long-term relationships, not too surprising. Second, literally the study supports that both men and women place a high emphasis on physical appearance for short term relationships…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 06:48 AM
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What are you talking about? First of all, yes, short-term and long-term are not going to be the same. Generally, people mate assortatively in a lot of ways for LTR, whereas for STR, men mate "down", women mate "up". As for the intelligence thing, it seems like the reason it plays a lesser role on average for women's attractiveness than men is that men seem to not want a partner more intelligent than themselves. The same seems to be true for ambition. It's hard to tell if this is innate or social…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 02:37 AM
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You're not really addressing my criticisms of your argument.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/22 01:08 AM
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Also, I don't know why you think women are turned on by magic tricks. 99% of the time it's cringy as hell.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 11:06 PM
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First off, confidence is not per-say "triggering" sexual desire. It's increasing it past a certain threshold that would allow for either casual sex or a long-term romantic relationship to occur. Men just have a lower bar on average for casual sex, so the majority of women have already crossed that threshold without doing anything. As for the idea that confidence and talent displayed by a woman don't inspire attraction in men, what studies are you actually basing this claim off of? Everything I'v…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 09:52 PM
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Also, please give an example of a frame that you are imagining wouldn't make you more attracted to a woman.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 04:56 AM
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Yes, but many PUA tactics aren't particularly effective on the majority of women, as I've already explained. As for your second point, I'm not sure how true that is. Things like talent and confidence are attractive to men as well. What other aspects do PUA attempt to highlight? While avoiding so-called "blankslate-ism" is certainly important, to me it seems like you are somewhat overly enthusiastic about "finding the differences" in men and women's sexualities. I implore you to remain skeptical …
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 04:46 AM
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I would hope that you would be willing to continue this conversation so that I can gain a better understanding of where you're at, knowledge-wise. I don't want select snippets of my comments to turn into confirmation bias fuel for you. Most of the comments on your post were actually very insightful, yet you promptly dismissed them, as they "weren't what you were looking for." Good luck gaining a well-rounded understanding of social phenomena.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 02:09 AM
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Also keep in mind that things like negging and push/pull don't work at all on the majority of women. That's a redpill lie. They tend to work on a small minority of women, many of whom have experienced childhood abuse, and who are the type of women who are easy to control, and are more likely to tolerate an abusive relationship that benefits their partner at their expense. Exactly the type of woman that the redpill encourages men to find. In reality, those "tactics" will actually alienate the the…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 01:48 AM
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Keep in mind that gender and sex have an association, but gender differences ≠ sex differences. And for many sex-based behavioral trends it can be difficult to determine the extent to which something is sex based and the extent to which it is gender based. That's also pretty important to keep in mind during these types of discussions.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 01:44 AM
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The reason I said it's stupid is that by your own acknowledgment, men don't need to be manipulated or convinced to have casual sex 99% of the time, so manipulation tactics "not working on them" is a moot point. Not to mention, you can't really test your "hypothesis" that men don't fall for these things, because there's no opportunity to. Women are less likely to want casual sex, and they are more particular about who they have it with, so it's more important for men to make themselves look bette…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 01:35 AM
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Negging and Push/pull take advantage of insecure women by making them feel less valuable than the man, so making the man look better by comparison, or at least that's what PUAs say. In reality a lot of its efficacy can likely be attributed to its use on women with humiliation and degradations fetishes, although in some cases it may be effective on the aforementioned insecure women. Also the idea may be that if he is being rude to her he isn't desperate, therefore he must be particularly desirabl…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 01:30 AM
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This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever seen with my own two fucking eyes. You start by saying gay men wouldn't need to be manipulated into having sex because they would just want it, but then you ask why manipulation "triggers" sexual desire in women? Usually manipulation involves false promises, so the woman might just be interested in a long-term relationship, and he lies and says he wants her to be his girlfriend, or something. So she has sex with him thinking it will be a long-term th…
/r/ExRedPill07/06/22 12:51 AM
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A bunch of stuff. It's too much for me to get into, but there are lots of discussions about it on the internet. I myself mainly focus on the academic and business world.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 10:41 PM
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I mean for biological yes, but for social, even though there are trade offs, being a woman can still be a big disadvantage to this day.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 09:14 PM
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Well, I guess it may depend on where you live. Also some women argue that if they put a lot of effort and money into their appearance, that is like paying for their half of the date, which could be seen as a valid argument, I guess. I don't put a lot of effort into mine, personally, so idk.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 09:08 PM
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Yeah, I guess some women do this. It's pretty douchey to use someone for emotional validation though.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 09:06 PM
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Yeah, I agree.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 09:03 PM
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Yeah. I mean lots of women do that these days. I think the fact that "the man pays" is a bit of a holdover from when women often didn't have jobs. I mean, to a certain extent it could be biological, but I myself pay half, and I think it's becoming increasingly common.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 09:02 PM
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I mean, do what you want, but I still don't think you're really understanding the situation. It's not really a power, is it, if you don't actually want to use it. What's valuable about it? I'm telling you it's not a novelty that's worn off for me, I've never done it at all. I'm just not particularly inclined.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:59 PM
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Yes most people have to settle to some degree. Though usually they end up really loving their partner anyway. There are some instances when they really truly feel like they've settled and they end up being unhappy in the relationship, but most of the time people end up really adoring their partner in spite of them not being the wealthiest, most attractive person on the planet.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:55 PM
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What point are you trying to make?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:52 PM
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Well because sleeping with someone attractive for women is always laden with risk. I already went over all the risks involved. I don't know what to tell you other than that it really isn't that enviable. I'm a woman and I've never had sex because I'm not really that interested in a one-night-stand. The idea of it is somewhat unpleasant to me. I'm trying to find a good LTR at the moment before I do something like that. If you actually woke up tomorrow and were a woman, you would find that your dr…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:49 PM
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Sometimes this is true. I guess it could imply that the guy has some desirable traits, if a lot of women wanted to be with him already.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:42 PM
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The vast majority of women don't marry rich guys though, so what's going on there?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:40 PM
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Everyone loves money. Would you rather marry a rich woman or a poor woman?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:39 PM
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For example, you may be looking for an LTR, but if you felt like you could have unlimited STR instead, as a man you would probably prefer it.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:38 PM
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I mean, there are definitely some exceptions to the rule. Also, they can desire both. Of course, women in most cases will not want to be with a man who is sleeping around, and men who feel like they can get a lot of STR will be less likely to want to trade that away for LTR. Though ultimately every human has some degree of desire for STR and some degree of desire for LTR, even chad fuckboys.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:36 PM
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I feel like you're just making up so much stuff to justify your preconceived notions. The vast vast majority of women do not act like spoiled princesses and expect their partner to sacrifice everything for them. This is such a weird view of the world.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:32 PM
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Yes redpill says that because redpill is dumb. The vast majority of women explicitly seek LTR, and ultimately the same is true for men, even attractive ones. Like in all anisogamic species there is some tendency towards "hypergamy," but for the most part some form of LTR is the goal for humans.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:30 PM
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You realize most women work these days, right?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:25 PM
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As we've already agreed on, the human sex ratio is 1:1, so how on Earth is EVERY WOMAN going to get a man who "pays all their bills."
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:25 PM
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Yeah, he could spend his money on himself. No problem with that. And also, lots of poor guys get into relationships. It's not money that's valued. Pair-bonding tendencies in humans evolved long before the invention of money. He just has to seem enthusiastic and emotionally invested in the relationship. Doing nice things of any kind is considered investment. And he would expect the same from the woman. If she doesn't seem to care about him that much or seem that invested in the relationship, he's…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:23 PM
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I've already explained that in LTR men are selective as well. So women do have to work to maintain it. Why not?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:20 PM
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Please explain your reasoning.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:18 PM
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Women without exception have to put resources into the child. What's so fair about that? Dating, as in LTR, is not a losing game for most men. Where are you coming up with this? Most men get into long-term relationships and have children. What makes this a losing game? Just having to put any amount of effort in makes it a losing game? Also, how do long-term relationships "benefit the woman more than the man"?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:12 PM
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Yes, I know
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:10 PM
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Yeah, wow, doesn't it.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:07 PM
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God you cannot be this dumb. What's unfair about it. Being attractive regardless of gender massively improves things for you. Do you think you deserve to not have to put in the effort of a long-term relationship?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:05 PM
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Women are not less selective, they just select for somewhat different things.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:01 PM
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Well they're not exactly bad because otherwise the average man would not reproduce at all. In the most extreme cases in the animal kingdom, something like only 1 in 60 males will reproduce. Yes, attractive men are lucky that they are more likely to be considered for 1 night stands, but most women would prefer to have children with a man willing to invest, although this is to some extent a context dependent reproductive strategy.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 08:00 PM
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No because he can see that the child isn't his. He wants his own children. Some guys might consciously not want their own, in which case they may marry a single mother and raise the kid as his own, but for another guy dating a single mother, would he not end up having his own kids with her?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:57 PM
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I still maintain that you are making a lot of assumption about her mental state. I don't know the situation, or what her demeanor was, but I still think you jumped to a conclusion without enough information. Just because someone has "a lot of people in their DMs" doesn't mean they think they are superior. As you've already mentioned, women tend to get more messages than men on average. So she's just an ordinary woman. Does an ordinary woman think she's so much better than you?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:54 PM
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Males in many species actually invest more than females over all, and are the more selective ones, like in many species of stork.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:51 PM
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And since men are investing for a long-term relationship, they are also very selective about their partner. Of course, if a guy is only pretending to be interested in a long-term relationship, but just wants sex, he may be less selective about his partner. This is something women have to be hyper-vigilant about.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:49 PM
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No it doesn't confirm anything for long-term relationships, only short-term. Since for short-term women are only getting sperm, they select for attractiveness, whereas for long-term relationships women seek men who would invest resources into the young.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:47 PM
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Again you're literally just making things up about her feelings without knowing anything. These are wild assumptions! How can you not see that? It sounds like she was hurt or annoyed by what you said. What makes that "attitude"? What, just doing anything you don't like it attitude? And also I don't know why you keep calling it attitude when it's known by everyone to be condescending.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:43 PM
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Wow sample size of 2. That's pretty solid support for your thesis. Also "I doubt men dump women." Just, period. You doubt men dump women? Like, as in you're not sure that this has happened? Ever? Even though it's quite obvious it happens all the time?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:34 PM
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I'm rather curious to see what your rebuttal to this would be.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:23 PM
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Still baseless speculation that she was using you or thought she was better than you. Being defensive isn't attitude. Attitude is a word you use to describe a child or young teen talking back. It's condescending to say an adult had "attitude." Do you consider her beneath you socially?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:19 PM
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You've personally seen this... And not on a MGTOW forum... Okay, sure. And even if this were true, men also dump women all the time, so how is this a privilege of women?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 07:16 PM
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I see you still haven't read the wikipedia page on anisogamy. And also, you said "boyfriend" before, so what you really meant was a STR?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 06:34 PM
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The point is it doesn't have to happen. People slut shame women to punish them. There may be some instinctual reason for this but it's rationalized in all sorts of ways, like "there needs to be some balance, since otherwise they would be too privileged" or whatever your "argument" was. Yeah, it's literally just made up, by you and a bunch of other men and women. It could all be stopped tomorrow if we decided to stop punishing women for having "too grand a life." Imagine that logic but reversed, …
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:59 AM
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Not really. In a hypothetical (one you started, btw) where a man were to never leave the house after dark for whatever reason as long as he lived, his lower risk of assault wouldn't benefit him, and therefore wouldn't really function as a privilege. It's not that strange. It's just a really unlikely hypothetical. Unfortunately you can't really compare casual sex as experienced by men and women in any meaningful way due to the qualitative differences caused by different reproductive roles (as I h…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:45 AM
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You: "Because that's just how it is. I don't make the rules." Also you (earlier in the convo, I might add): "There should be a price because it isn't fair that women get inifinite sex. There must be a balance. The risks are also part of the price."
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:39 AM
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Well, no, I disagree. If some man had a "night phobia" or something, and couldn't bear to be out after dark, and never received treatment for it so could never go out at night for as long as he lived, he wouldn't really be privileged in that particular area, would he?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:37 AM
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Yeah, actually you just made up that " the risk is not the whole price for women, but the effort is the whole price for men." You just did. That was entirely fabricated by you. Just now.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:33 AM
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Why are the risks not the whole price for women, but the effort is the whole price for men? Also, obviously lots of men agree with you, as slut shaming is quite common.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:29 AM
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Yeah, I guess if you are a hikikomori for your entire life you aren't privileged.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:25 AM
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The price they pay? Why do you even think there should be consequences? Plus, how are the risks involved for women having one night stands not the flipside of the effort men have to put in? Is that not already the "price"?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:23 AM
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Also, in parks or any secluded areas during the day, or alone with "friends" or acquaintances, or during one-night stands.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:20 AM
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How do you know you will never need to?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:13 AM
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You have never gone out at night and you will never need or want to for the rest of your life?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:10 AM
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The response a lot of people were making to your idea that women who get slut shamed shouldn't complain is that slut shaming caries serious risks to a woman's future. Should the men who are shamed for being virgins lose job opportunities, family support, receive harassing letters, get killed, etc? Or the men who can have a lot of casual sex? Should they be "slut shamed" too and receive the same negative consequences women do?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:09 AM
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You tell me? Do you go out at night?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:03 AM
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Not exactly the same thing, since one is a matter of safety and practicality, the other is a matter of enjoyment. Everyone values safety, but if you don't like sardines and you have a million tins of sardines, that means nothing. It's not really an inconvenience to not have sex, it is to not be able to be out after dark. Also, do you not go out at night?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 04:00 AM
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It's not a privilege if you don't want it. Just like it's not a privilege to enjoy casual sex if you can't get it.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:57 AM
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Okay. It's probably a coping mechanism for the depression. I don't know why you would be jealous of that. Plus people who are depressed often show atypical behavioral patterns, including much lower rates of risk aversion behaviors than the general population. Also that's literally one woman. One.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:51 AM
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Like, I could just as easily be jealous of men because they tend to really enjoy casual sex, but then you could say "oh, well only the top 10% hottest guys can actually regularly get casual sex, so why are you jealous of men as a whole?" The fact is the majority of men want casual sex but can't get it, and the majority of women can get casual sex but don't want it. If you're going to be jealous of anyone, be jealous of the small minority in each sex who actually want casual sex and can get it.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:48 AM
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lol, there is no winning or losing this argument. The average woman doesn't value casual sex that much, but if you want to be jealous of the 10% or whatever that do, go ahead. If you could truly understand the cost/benefit ratio for men v women you probably wouldn't be.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:43 AM
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How many, independently, have said that? Like, the actual raw number.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:39 AM
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I have no life. How are you not bored of it, then? You have known "tons" of women who have sex with a new guy every week?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:38 AM
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Most women on this sub have mentioned that? Do you think this might be confirmation bias?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:33 AM
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What is tons to you?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:32 AM
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An exceedingly small minority of women have "tons" of casual sex, I suspect because they get off on the excitement and risk involved in in, not the act itself. Or they are hypersexual due to childhood sexual assault, or they have unusually low threat-aversion, or an unusually high sex drive for genetic reasons, or possibly due to brain damage. Could also be somewhat neurologically masculinized and/or have higher concentrations of androgen receptors due to atypical uterine conditions (or for gene…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:24 AM
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tons if them go out and have tons of casual sex Where are you getting this from? This is so thoroughly untrue.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:18 AM
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To you, a man, who (evolutionarily) stands to gain a lot more from the interaction, and risks a lot less, since you're way less likely to be overpowered. Are you so thoroughly incapable of looking at this from a woman's perspective?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:14 AM
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You could figure it out 100%? You only have to be wrong once, you know.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:09 AM
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It's easy to determine what guys will be abusive or murderers? Okay, do you think you could you pick out of a crowd which guys are the most likely to do that?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 03:04 AM
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Wow you're such a genius to figure that out, yet still can't understand qualitative differences. Also, way to just completely ignore the stuff I mentioned that doesn't fit your narrative.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:57 AM
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Not zero effort because they have to try to weed out all the potential rapist, stalkers, and abusive guys. But if you want to think of this as some kind of major privilege despite never having been a woman and not knowing what casual sex feels like as a woman, go right ahead.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:50 AM
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On anonymous surveys, yeah, maybe...
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:42 AM
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Women enjoy it less and take on a ton of risk. How is that a privilege?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:41 AM
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Also acting like women are so advantaged when vastly more men than women report having had casual sex in their lives
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:40 AM
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Literally how doesn't it?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:38 AM
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Average
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:36 AM
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Equally?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:34 AM
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Does casual sex feel the same for women as it does for men?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:05 AM
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So you don't understand fucking anything, got it.
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:04 AM
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You're just paying attention to what you want to hear and ignoring the rest. If unlimited sex with random people leads to such vastly different reproductive outcomes, as illustrated by my explanation, why would the subjective experience of casual sex evolve to be the same in men and women?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 02:00 AM
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Do you know what an instinct is? Why do people eat junk food if it causes them to gain weight, even if they don't want to gain weight?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:57 AM
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For gods. fucking. sake. Consciously women want to avoid having children. Sex has evolved to be enjoyable to increase the reproductive success of the organism. So since women know that sex can result in a pregnancy they don't want, they use birth control. But evolution only cares about the happiness of a creature insofar as it increases reproductive success. So once you actually have the kid, you're mostly going to be driven by stress and a sense of duty, and although there are fun times, there …
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:53 AM
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Except it's not meaningless, you absolute clown. It's instinctual. It doesn't matter that fucking birth control exists, you're not undoing literal hundreds of millions of years of evolution. By your logic, you wouldn't even desire casual sex, since almost every woman you would have sex with would be using it, leading to no pregnancies, aka zero increase in reproductive success, so why bother?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:39 AM
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(hypothetical where no birth control of any kind is utilized) Okay, if a woman has sex with a sample of 100 men taken randomly from the general population, she will be able to have 1 child that has just a 1% (oversimplification, but I digress) chance of being fathered by the most attractive, healthiest guy out of the bunch. Plus now she has to take on the risks involved in pregnancy and childbirth, and has to find a way to care for the child for 18 years, probably on her own. A man who has sex w…
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:27 AM
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And also you don't enjoy the sex as much
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:07 AM
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Also you still haven't answered my question, Would you be willing to take on all the risks I mentioned, and more, in exchange for "unlimited sex."
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 01:05 AM
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If you got angry with her after making a wild assumption that she's using you and then she gets defensive, that's a very reasonable reaction. The fact that you're calling it "attitude" is insanely condescending, not to mention pretty fucking misogynistic. Also, she wanted to have sex with you, so how is she using you?
/r/ExRedPill06/06/22 12:33 AM
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Most women don't. For those who do, I don't know. I mean, they obviously enjoy it, maybe they're just less sensitive to the risks, or perhaps it's particularly enjoyable for some women. It's probably a combination of neurological traits and life experiences that allow for it. As for your other comment, based on anecdotes, I suspect it's more common than that, but I will look into the academic literature on it to get an estimate.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:54 PM
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Lol pick up a book on fucking evolution
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:48 PM
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Well, for academic and professional purposes, yes, in a heartbeat. Though I'm not saying men are better off than women in the dating world, they just have the flipside of things. It would be harder to get dates, which would suck, but I wouldn't have to worry about being harassed or assaulted to even 1% of the same extent (I assume). Plus, I'm bi (though I don't really like talking about it on here), so I already know what it's like to play the "man role" in dating. It's tougher to actually get d…
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:44 PM
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Meanwhile she can just sit there and be pretty. Yeah, except if she's not. For the 1,000,00th time, the only women who exist in the world aren't the top 1% gorgeous ones your eyes immediately get drawn to.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:39 PM
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Tons of women have casual sex and enjoy it. So they have more fun than men. You're not getting it. IT IS NOT THE SAME.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:37 PM
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What percentage of those guys would cut and run the second she gets pregnant or wants commitment?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:34 PM
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People of either sex rarely date down in looks for LTR, unless money is involved, and the extent to which it does happen outside of a financial transaction it doesn't seem to be more common for men or women. The fact that you think that is likely the result of confirmation bias. Also "heartbroken" because he has to do a tiny bit of work to find a new partner? How sad.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:33 PM
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What advantage do they have in this context? Do you think casual sex is the same for men as it is for women? As in the subjective experience?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:31 PM
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ok, 99% of your arguments could be addressed by you just understanding anisogamy. Just learn stuff, I guess.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:29 PM
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Oh, okay, so after she's been raped and assaulted by the guy she hooked up with she can trade him out for another guy. Cool, women really do have it all. Also I'm trying to explain that casual sex to the average woman just isn't as valuable, even if everything goes well. It's not an identical experience, and this is likely for evolutionary reasons. If you don't understand this, you aren't going to understand the flaws in your argument.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:26 PM
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90% of men are NOT worse off in the dating market than a single mother. Again, unless you're talking about casual sex, which, whoop-de-doo, she can have 2 kids as a single mom instead of 1.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:21 PM
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A supermodel man would be "heartbroken" that an average-looking woman stopped seeing him after one casual sexual encounter with him? Uh, no. And, no, the AVERAGE woman does not have unlimited super attractive men falling over themselves to be with her. Are you out of your mind?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:19 PM
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Clearly not that risky Read a fucking study, ffs
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:16 PM
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women are enjoying a far better quality of life than I could ever dream of For gods fucking sake. Did you even read what I typed? Also, the vast, vast majority of women are not having endless casual sex like you describe, in part because of the risks.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:15 PM
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The average woman isn't getting 1000 messages a month, but even if that were true, what does this have to do with disposability?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:09 PM
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Than 90% of men? For a long term relationship? Just because you would date a single mother doesn't mean the majority of guys would.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:07 PM
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What is your ultimate point, here? Because it seems like the crux of the argument is that sex for women = sex for men perfectly. It does not.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:05 PM
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I am interested in learning why being a named a slut is so damaging for women Check my other comments for that answer.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:02 PM
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What "power" does an average-looking woman have over an attractive man, exactly? And how on earth is he "disposable" to her? This man likely doesn't want to commit to this woman, and it's not like he didn't enjoy having sex or something, so how is he the disposable party, here? How are you even defining "disposability"? Jeez, so even attractive men are disposable. Talk about the ultimate victim complex.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 09:02 PM
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That's not what disposability is, though. And if you think the vast majority of women have endless options, might I remind you that the human sex ratio is roughly 1:1.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:57 PM
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uh, no.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:56 PM
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Not usually Bingo, though you can't see it, it seems. Do you believe in evolution?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:55 PM
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It is relevant. You have a completely different view of casual sex than the average woman. It is extremely risky on a number of levels for her, the only real risk to you is maybe an sti. So having a lot of sex doesn't provide the same emotional benefits (in theory) for women as for men. You're jealous of nothing. Besides, would you be willing to take on all the risks involved that women face (single motherhood, physical abuse, loss of job opportunities, constant harassment online and in-person, …
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:48 PM
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Wanna take a crack at being a single mom?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:33 PM
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women having easy dating lives and men being disposable to them So, only men are disposable to women, and women aren't disposable to men? If anything the opposite is more consistently true.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:32 PM
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Would you actually be willing to commit to an "undesirable" woman?
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:24 PM
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Shaming is a social behavior. it doesn't exist in a bubble. If there are serious negative affects associated with one form of shaming and not another, then that form of shaming is worse, plain and simple.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:22 PM
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Infinite sex isn't valuable to women like it is to men. Think about it simply: if a woman has sex with 100 men in a year she could have up to maybe 3 babies, usually 1. If a man has sex with 100 women, he can have up to 100 babies. So, it's likely not gratifying to the same extent, so already the extent of your jealously is unwarranted. Yes, women obviously enjoy casual sex, but the potential risks of being labelled a slut are way more professionally and socially damning than being labelled a vi…
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 08:13 PM
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But you see, the average woman doesn't want to go on a shitty date, unlike the average guy, who often would be happy to get anything (but likely wouldn't end up settling down with her). This is likely at least partly for evolutionary reasons, so it's not like women feel better off than men for being able to get dates they're not crazy about. Also, no one on here says that rich people or attractive people don't have an easier time dating, or people with any particularly desirable traits, for that…
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 07:43 PM
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Well, virgin shaming is like the guy equivalent of slut shaming, and it should be discouraged as well. The particular issue with slut shaming, though, is that it is often used to justify abuse and harassment done towards women, and it can be used to deny women job opportunities, promotions, etc.
/r/ExRedPill05/06/22 07:02 PM
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Woah, wise!
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 03:49 PM
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psychologist Lori Gottlieb found the risk of divorce is lowest when the husband earns 60 percent of the income and the wife does 60 percent of the housework Nice little rhetorical trick here. "Risk" of divorce. This implies divorce is always bad for all parties. Of course, another way the data could be interpreted is that women who are more financially dependent on their husbands are less likely to end the relationship, even if it's less than ideal.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 05:32 AM
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Looks like the Nikita article cites the same study that video did. Seems as though it's a real lynchpin for these pro-trad people. Shame it isn't very sturdy.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 05:28 AM
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OMG this video is so funny. It's so sad. Yeah, she's really down the rabbit hole.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 02:49 AM
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You have to switch to markdown mode first.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 02:47 AM
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And the Return of Kings one is so dumb that I can't even think of how I would respond to it. So forget that one. And also, if you have any self-respect, please don't ever visit that site again.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 02:42 AM
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Just going through all these links. Currently taking a look at video 1: "Gender Roles & the Myth of Egalitarianism." It's off to bad start, citing an article that cites a study that uses decades old data. Studies using more modern data do not get the same results. This indicates that cultural attitudes are shifting. ​ Also, on another note, why do you keep deleting comments? I don't have any issue with it, just curious.
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 02:40 AM
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on YouTube with over 100,000 subscribers openly and genuinely advocate for patriarchal gender roles first of all, A: grifters gonna grift. Lots of women who talk like this don't genuinely want a return to bronze age relationship dynamics. Lots of right-wing women who spout this crap then go and complain that right-wing men treat them as "second-class citizens," so either everything they're saying is bs, or they're just parroting stuff they've heard and don't really understand its implications. B…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 01:07 AM
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I mean, I don't think the couple have to be the same height, necessarily, if you want a relationship based on mutual respect (maybe to some extent, I'm not sure), but actually you aren't unusual at all to want a partner around your height. That's overwhelmingly common. I'm not sure who you're talking to that they would think that gay. Oh, and continuing to look at the cursed Nikita article, she cites fucking Christina Hoff Sommers and Warren Farrell, so you can be pretty confident you're looking…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 12:46 AM
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And I'm not even sure I could actually read the article without my own skin peeling off of my flesh in sheer horror, but speaking for myself as a woman, I value respect more than love in a relationship, including (or even especially) in a romantic one. I mean, I guess both are important, but respect definitely takes precedent for me. As in, if there was a period of time in the marriage when my partner wasn't showing a lot of love for me, I could manage it, but if my partner wasn't showing respec…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/22 12:33 AM
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Well, there are plenty of women like that, so I don't think you should have a problem finding one, if that's all you're concerned about.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 11:13 PM
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I'm just starting to read the Nikita one, and honestly there's already so much bs that it would take a really long time to debunk it all. Like, I don't think I could even begin to go into it, which is why it would be helpful if you just chose one or two points for me to really go into detail with.
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 11:11 PM
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Okay, let me put it this way: if everything said in those articles was 100% true, how would that change things for you. And what about if it was all 100% false?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 10:54 PM
3

Cuz I borderline don't even want to directly look at them. I mean one is from Return of Kings, so it's almost 100 for sure bs. Is there any way you could, like, summarize your issues with them and I could address them?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 10:50 PM
1

What about it bothered you?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 10:40 PM
2

Okay. I'll take a look at a few articles and give you my take. Is there any in particular you want addressed?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 10:32 PM
3

Sorry, what do you want us to do with these links? Look at them and tell you why they're wrong?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 09:51 PM
5

um
/r/ExRedPill03/06/22 06:09 PM
1

Unfortunately yes. Have you ever met someone who is actually looking for a partner "equal to them in every way"? What does that even mean? That's fucking impossible. You're just making up an insane hypothetical and then blaming feminism for people's supposed delusions. Sure, maybe the odd person on this planet is like that, but to argue it's any kind of real problem is ridiculous. Also, women still do the vast majority of household chores, regardless of work hours of both members of the couple, …
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 06:01 PM
1

lol.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 07:09 AM
1

I guarantee you don't have to teach me this stuff.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 05:19 AM
2

I'm pretty sure that's 99% of pro-life people. Especially pro-life men. Everything else they say is a cover for that goal.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 05:06 AM
1

If your professor taught you that men are bigger primarily so that they can protect women from wild animals, I wonder what university they work at, frankly.
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 05:03 AM
2

perils of equality. care to elaborate?
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 05:01 AM
1

About the bigger comment you made about guys..that too is evolutionary it’s just from the times when mankind lived in the wild and we had to fend off wild animals and defend the tribe and our families from danger so physical strength was more important during those times.. please stop. You're obviously not particularly knowledgeable about evolutionary biology. Try to avoid making claims when you lack familiarity with even the current academic consensus. It's already such an abused science and pu…
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 04:46 AM
1

Yeah this is just intersectionality by and for people who don't understand intersectionality. Let me try to fucking explain. Say, there are two people, identical in every conceivable way, except one is poor and one is rich. The rich one's life is better, no? Definitionally. Same with two people, one black and one white, the same in every other way. The white one's life is better. In the case of women v men it's a bit more complex, because there could be said to be more trade offs, and there are …
/r/ExRedPill02/06/22 04:27 AM
2

Well, feel free to ask me whatever you want.
/r/ExRedPill30/05/22 02:21 AM
2

In cases like that you have to want help. He's been to court-ordered therapy a ton of times. Hasn't really done jack shit for him.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 09:24 PM
4

Projection.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 01:51 PM
2

He was like this before he discovered the redpill online. It just gave his lifelong hatred of women a framework of justification. And even if he is "ill," I don't feel the need to be in his presence.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 01:48 PM
0

aw, nvm... Just thought you might be.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 12:59 AM
0

btw r u from nyc
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 12:48 AM
0

Yeah, I know it's bad, but this train is totally off the rails at this point. I find the whole thing hilarious. Like, at this point I'm just along for the ride. This is the universe I live in.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 12:34 AM
1

lol
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 12:16 AM
1

Thanks. I'm sorry you did too.
/r/ExRedPill29/05/22 12:00 AM
2

Yeah, my dad really hates women...
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 11:59 PM
1

You asked if anyone had anything further to add, and you implied that there were a lot of ways in which women had it better, but not actually, so I was curious to see what your perspective was on it, but I personally couldn't think of anything other than the hookup thing that that applied to.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:55 PM
1

No? What argument?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:53 PM
1

Yeah, I figured it was basically just the hookup thing. Well, I'm glad you're able to understand the whole thing from another perspective now, and that it's helped alleviate your resentment.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:45 PM
1

Okay...
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:44 PM
1

Yes, I agree with you on that. But what beyond hookups is this referring to?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:43 PM
1

Um, I can only speak for myself, but I wonder if that goes beyond generalization, into inaccuracy. For one, I don't think women are any more interested in finding a "soulmate" than men. Second, I'm not sure about the money thing either. I mean, I guess your angle is that men who make a lot of money can attract more women, but, I mean, they attract women because the women want money, so, why wouldn't women want to "make money" too? As for the being cared for thing, I can only speak for myself her…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:40 PM
1

I have to remember that the two sexes want different things generally. I would say, typically the opposite is true. Men and women actually generally want the same things, at the end of the day, but little things like the casual sex thing are important to keep in mind. You say the hookup thing is only one angle? What else are you talking about?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:31 PM
1

re: number 5, correct me if I'm wrong - I think maybe you're referring to the fact that women tend to not want causal hookups as much as men, and so it doesn't benefit them as much to be able to get them? That may be true, and it is an important thing for redpilled/blackpilled guys to keep in mind, since it's often a major source of their resentment towards women, but I would say that it's kind of a bad thought direction to go in to believe that "nobody really has it better than anyone else." I'…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 08:25 PM
1

I don't give a flying fuck who has it harder, I am just so focused on the individuals around me and their personal struggles. I think the same concept applies to both attractiveness and the sexes. We could compare all we want, but at the end of the day, there are millions of suffering people out there and tens to hundreds immediately in your vicinity, including yourself. I, for one, am more concerned about aiding and empowering the individuals around me and myself than making sweeping comparison…
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 06:26 PM
0

Why even fucking bother to say that. And also, are you trying to say poor kids resenting rich kids is classism?
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 06:12 PM
7

I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. I never want to see him again as long as I live, but I do believe, in his heart, he cares for me in his own way. The point I was trying to make is that it doesn't really matter what he feels. I don't give a shit that he loves me, his feelings don't change his actions.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 05:09 PM
1

no women pay for accutane or lasik
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 04:45 PM
2

um, yeah, poor people definitely have it harder than rich people, wtf are you talking about? It's a little disingenuous to hear poor kids saying that rich people's lives are way easier, and take it to mean they think rich people literally have no challenges in their lives whatsoever, so therefore the poor kids are completely mistaken, and in fact were wrong to even compare their lives to the rich kids, because everyone has problems etc etc.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 04:30 PM
1

any issues women have, men have it even harder nope
/r/ExRedPill28/05/22 04:26 PM
1

What makes you think she's not right-wing? My aunt is the most "hippie dippie" person I know, and she's firmly on the right. I have yet to see Denis Prager host a left-wing person on his show, if that was what you meant by liberal. And the US democrats, as well as most liberal parties worldwide, are typically considered right-of-center. Usually "labour" type parties, or "new democrats" are the center-left party, if they even exist in a country. Additionally, Denis Prager's show is extremely far-…
/r/ExRedPill27/05/22 01:29 PM
2

Also, how do these "requests" "complicate" anything?
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 05:37 PM
2

True, but that's not what the post is about, so why mention it at all?
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 02:01 AM
2

Yeah, it would be.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 01:59 AM
2

Ew, women? Who cares about those things? What does it matter how our actions affect them? It's not like they're people or something /s
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 01:25 AM
1

Give an example of men asking for help being humiliated by non rp.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 01:22 AM
1

WHERE ARE REDPILLERS BEING HUMILIATED??????????????????
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 01:01 AM
1

Are you seriously implying that the majority of people on here don't actually want to help red pillers leave the movement, and are only here to vent about how much they hate the red pill and men? How did you come to this conclusion?
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:59 AM
1

Also, what does this have to do with dating?
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:44 AM
1

Give one example of a "dunk."
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:41 AM
1

Misogyny exists before loneliness, otherwise every guy who's had lots of girlfriends wouldn't be misogynistic, and that's obviously not true.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:32 AM
1

When did I say "men bad"? This was never about men to begin with, you brought up men and said I wouldn't have pushed back on HVM like I did for high quality woman. Now you're saying I said men are bad somehow. Where are you getting that? Smh, you're starting a fight out of literally nothing.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:28 AM
1

Want to tell me how you came to that conclusion? Is it the draft or something?
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:23 AM
2

lol, jp sucks
/r/ExRedPill17/05/22 12:15 AM
1

If, for example, she had said "men don't cry," or something, that would be reinforcing a harmful stereotype, and should be called out.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 11:12 PM
1

High value male is still cringe and bad, but men are not typically the ones dehumanized by our society, and certainly not by red pillers, so it's not reinforcing existing harmful beliefs.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 11:08 PM
1

Did you even bother to read the whole convo?
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 10:16 PM
1

Me: Can you not say shit like "high quality woman"? You: They can say whatever they want (implying I am not allowed to criticize the word they used)
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 10:15 PM
1

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 08:52 PM
1

Yes, anyone can say whatever they want. I didn't tell her to do anything, I said: "Can you not say shit like "high quality woman"?". Like her, I was saying whatever I wanted to say, which in this case was saying that what she said was shitty, and feeds into the rampant dehumanization of women in our society at large, and in particular in the red pill community.
/r/ExRedPill16/05/22 08:41 PM
1

[for future reference] That being "happy wife happy life."
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 09:50 PM
1

Well, it could be considered rude in person as well (best to do it in private as opposed to in front of a group), though I for one appreciate it when people correct my mistakes in any area, including spelling and grammar. You yourself seem to have no problem doing that for plenty of other things; I'm not exactly sure why grammar and spelling are off limits. Plus, I did genuinely mean to do you a favor. I was trying to be helpful, not undermine your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:40 PM
1

No need to bristle your mane.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:25 PM
1

I'm not debating you. I'm not even on this sub. I was just looking through your post history and thought I should let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:23 PM
0

It's "germane," btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 09:07 PM
0

Disagree with what? From a neurological perspective you are objectively incorrect. It isn't a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. Not to mention the apparent shifting goalposts in this discussion (me asking if you think of yourself as a high quality woman, you implying it means "hot" and "successful," those being relative terms, usually the assumption is compared to average, then you saying a "high quality woman" is the average woman, which would imply you are comparing to a below average woman, …
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 08:18 PM
3

Enthralled already.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:42 AM
4

Also in the vast majority of canids, including wolves, males form (socially and often relatively sexually monogamous) pair bonds with females and play a large role in rearing young. Like, male wolves famously invest a lot in their young.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:35 AM
-1

I appreciate that you would consider changing, but it seems like you're just doing it to appease me, which is kind of weird. I would argue that the phrasing you use does matter. I mean, if not, one could consider it mere "semantics" to refer to women as cum-buckets.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:19 AM
-2

But then why say "high quality woman"? You've just admitted it's technically a lie, and do you think it makes sense to encourage the average guy to shoot for a high quality woman? Shouldn't he be looking for an average woman?
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:15 AM
1

Maybe you could use literally any other phrasing. Great woman, wonderful woman. "High quality woman" makes her sound like a commodity. Even if you didn't mean it that way and would use "high quality men" to refer to some guys, one gender over the other in our society is consistently viewed as an object, and it ain't men. It's just a little disheartening to hear something like that come from a woman.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:09 AM
2

Also, definitionally, not all men can end up with a woman who is ahead of the curve in all areas, even if they do everything you say to.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:06 AM
-5

I guess you consider yourself one of those.
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 05:02 AM
6

Can you not say shit like "high quality woman"?
/r/ExRedPill15/05/22 04:52 AM
1

Straight to the point, your best bet is to just gain some scientific literacy and read the latest studies yourself (not to say scientists don't have their biases, but getting it directly from the source in my experience makes a big difference, it's not being filtered through a million different people's own outlooks and understandings of the world before it gets to you)
/r/ExRedPill14/05/22 06:48 AM
1

Haven't even looked at any of the content yet, but I checked the home page of her website and she has an endorsement from Dennis Prager of Prager U (quite a far-right Youtube channel), so that's a bit of a red flag if you're looking for something with no bias.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/22 06:46 AM
1

The way men vs women are treated by both men and women may to some extent be innate. It is certainly a possibility, neurologically speaking, and makes sense evolutionarily speaking. However, with a few exceptions (things that can be reasonably tested using animal models, e.i boldness, mating behaviors, etc [although surprising amount of interspecies variation on even these], not the dolls vs trucks thing for gods sake, though that's not to say certain human play preferences aren't innate, either…
/r/ExRedPill14/05/22 06:40 AM
2

Wow guess you guys hate cool bitches.
/r/ExRedPill13/05/22 04:43 AM
2

Just speaking for myself (early twenties woman), I have been attracted to older guys a few times in my life, but it's just way less common than being attracted to men around my age. Usually after a roughly 10 year difference I'm not as interested. So it can happen, it's just a lot less likely. And also, I should mention that I sometimes see fit, healthy older men who I honestly consider absolutely gorgeous, but with whom I have absolutely no interest in a sexual relationship. So seeing someone a…
/r/ExRedPill13/05/22 03:47 AM
3

(straight) men chase after *stacies.
/r/ExRedPill13/05/22 12:28 AM
2

Women like that are p cool, honestly.
/r/ExRedPill13/05/22 12:23 AM
2

That is not the takeaway most people get from Macbeth.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 09:05 PM
1

Yeah that's not why wars are waged.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 09:02 PM
1

Congratulations. Good luck with it all.
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 06:28 PM
2

If you have OCD, no amount of assurance will allow you to get it into your head that you have zero to worry about dick-wise. Be straight with me, have you tried meds or professional therapy? Can you afford any of that?
/r/ExRedPill10/05/22 06:10 AM
20

I love how everyone is focusing on the trans thing. This is the cringiest and stupidest way imaginable to live. Yes, he's obviously a sex addict, but he needs to recognize it as a problem and seek help for that specifically, or else it's really none of my business what he spends his money on.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 09:41 PM
8

lol what
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 09:26 PM
10

You say that you're not interesting at all and "all [you] do is watch sports highlights and work for the most part." Assuming you could go down to 1 job if you stopped seeing escorts, you could join some clubs in your free time and work on skills and maybe pick up some hobbies. Then maybe you would feel more interesting and your self-esteem would improve, plus you could meet a woman in an organic way. Is there any creative pursuit or interest you've wanted to pursue?
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 07:17 PM
39

What advice are you looking for? Do you want someone to tell you to stop seeing escorts? You didn't mention earlier that part of the reason you're so overworked is this habit. I mean, it's your life, do what you want, as long as you are polite and respectful to these women and have the money, I don't really see the issue.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 07:03 PM
1

np
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 06:44 PM
2

Lol generalize harder
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 05:27 PM
3

Well, that's part of it, but also it's the dichotomy itself, between the more humanizing "men" and the impersonal and arguably dehumanizing "female." I use male and female in many contexts in everyday speech, but if you are using men and female in the same sentence, it is in effect prescribing a degree of humanity to men that is then not afforded women. So, it didn't just become insulting because it was used as an insult. Like the "men" and "girls" thing. It's a double standard that, arguably, a…
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 05:14 PM
6

What are you talking about? No, I just thought it was funny in a cute way. It doesn't matter to me whether or not she is.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 04:52 PM
3

I love that you felt the need to edit the post to inform people that you're not a dominatrix.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 10:04 AM
8

why is the first thing you bring up a BDSM site.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 08:56 AM
8

Okay, so looking at your absolutely cursed post history, you have literally an over 7" dick and fucking OCD. So dick size is literally on no level an issue for you. Absolute max 5% of all women would think a SEVEN INCH COCK is too short. The OCD is your issue, dude, not the d. Try to get meds, you sound like you're pretty bad. Even low dose fluoxetine if you're not already on it.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 08:55 AM
6

I can only really speak for myself as a woman with very small breasts (not a perfect comparison, I know). I guess I just live with it. I know it's a deal breaker for a lot of men, but not all. As for society, I guess I can't really be bothered to give a damn about that. I mean, it just is what it is. Occasionally I'll be reminded by some piece of media how completely and thoroughly large breasts are valued over small, and how "small" to most men is a modest 'c' cup, and I'm seen as board flat, a…
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 08:04 AM
1

I just want a partner who will let me figure out how to treat women on my own Truly cursed words.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/22 12:26 AM
3

Most of the greatest artists of all time were men so there has to be some connection. lol history understander has logged on.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 06:30 PM
11

If you're a middle school boy you pretty much figure out quickly where you stand in the social hierarchy This is true for girls, too. A lot of guys think girls are all friendly and nice to each other, and braid each other's hair and giggle, or whatever, but there are status hierarchies, and bullying and ostracization is centered around failing to conform to standards of femininity as opposed to masculinity. Also being an artist is cool.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 06:17 PM
1

You still haven't explained shit.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 02:36 AM
1

Still haven't explained your underlying argument as to why sex is inherently transactional.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 02:35 AM
1

re: the engineering analogy that you started. You haven't answered the question. Is all engineering transactional?
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 02:34 AM
1

Also, if she's dating a guy with the intention of getting into a long term relationship, she's probably not having sex with him on the first date, which you are arguing invariably involves the man paying, which of course isn't even true. So in this case she is not trading sex for anything because she's not even having sex with him. Seems like you already played in traffic.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 02:33 AM
1

lol. You didn't even read my comment, or if you did you don't want to acknowledge it. Here it is again if you missed it: How is a woman wanting to be treated well by a potential partner any more transactional than a man wanting to have sex with a woman at all? If you are looking at this from an evolutionary perspective, any sex with a man that a woman engages in constitutes a form of investment. She's effectively providing him with something (energy for offspring's development, womb real estate,…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 02:10 AM
1

elaborate
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 01:21 AM
1

Yes I did read that, and your assessment is wrong, and I explained why. Did you read my other comment?
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 01:02 AM
1

You said you are 'an actual escort.' Transactional. You contradict yourself when you say that when you are with a man outside of work you want him for him. (how does she do this?) I don't go home to my wife or date my girlfriend and say that I'm not an engineer when I am not on the clock. (this is the analogy I'm addressing) I'm still an engineer at home. By the logic you put forward, you can't cherry pick what you are or aren't (yes if your husband isn't directly paying you for sex it's not pro…
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:47 AM
1

Also, I'd define a real wife as a breathing human, not a dakimakura or sex doll.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:40 AM
1

For my answer to the thread, more generally: https://www.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/ujc5hr/do\_women\_really\_trade\_sex\_for\_money\_security\_and/i7kfa7e/?context=3
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:37 AM
1

Correct me if I'm wrong: you were arguing that if a woman is a prostitute while dating, she is also prostituting for her boyfriend/husband.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:34 AM
2

Yeah. I mean if the guy stands to make more money in subscriptions to 'Alpha Bear-Crocodille-Hawk Chimera: Monthly' than he spends in women to say on camera they'd fuck him, he's still turning a profit.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:30 AM
2

I have turned down women and I have even ignored women who I was pretty sure we're into me just because I did not want to repeat of going through this cycle and for her just to reject me when she finds out I'm a virgin. whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhydamnit
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:25 AM
1

Also I'm not a fucking B*n Shap*ro fan
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:14 AM
1

Prostitution is definitionally the act of selling sex. Having sex outside the context of a direct exchange of goods and services is not prostitution, it's just having sex. Gigolos are kind of like a male prostitute for women, and were somewhat common in the past. Is going on a date with your wife and being nice to her (and performing oral sex on her) you being a gigolo? This literally makes no sense.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/22 12:10 AM
3

Obvious grift.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 11:56 PM
1

Yes, attractive women are invariably stupid. What a fucking cope.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 11:55 PM
1

Okay, let me word this like a 13 year old Ben Shapiro fan in the comments section of a 4 minute Buzzfeed pop feminism video: "If you, hypothetically, had both a wife and an engineering degree, would you charge your wife for your services as an engineer, assuming she were in need of them in some way, at literally any point in your marriage?"
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 11:20 PM
1

I'm aware that you probably don't have a real wife. I was extending the analogy.
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 11:01 PM
1

"If only" then what?
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 10:36 PM
1

Do you charge your wife for your engineering expertise?
/r/ExRedPill07/05/22 10:28 PM
1

You have such low self-esteem. You're not doing anything bad, you don't need to apologize for something like this. I actually like seeing you around the subreddits. You seem like a really genuine and nice person, and I mean that truly; though obviously you're dealing with some stuff. It seems like you might suffer from depression to a certain extent in addition to your anxiety. Are you in a position to get tested at all, or get treatment? I live in a culture like that as well, but occasionally s…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:06 PM
2

How is a woman wanting to be treated well by a potential partner any more transactional than a man wanting to have sex with a woman at all? If you are looking at this from an evolutionary perspective, any sex with a man that a woman engages in constitutes a form of investment. She's effectively providing him with something (energy for offspring's development, womb real estate, time, etc). But would you call it transactional? I mean, it's ludicrous to view the world in this redpill way, as if wom…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:44 PM
3

Hey WhoDoomsTheDoomer. So, re: the whole wanting to be yourself thing, I know how adamant you are about it -- you've mentioned it multiple times on this sub -- so don't worry about changing. You're right, you should dress to attract a partner you would find desirable. But are you actually actively seeking people who would like you? I mean, there are lots of grunge hobbies that there might be local clubs for. Where will you find this hypothetical perfect match? What are you doing in your everyday…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:27 PM
1

I wouldn't just say "women use STR to prospect LTR." It's risky to state something like that with such certainty. It's likely the case sometimes, but it's probably an oversimplification at best. Thank you for letting me know the studies you were referencing.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 08:55 AM
1

Sorry, I already know about that, I meant the second point, about personality and status, is it for short or long term, and could you please send the study?
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:17 AM
4

💯
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:11 AM
4

Bruh, you're just making shit up
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:10 AM
9

Just a vending machine, lol, you put in vacation and you get sex
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:03 AM
12

you take her on a vacation and she'll let you have as much sex as you want. Um, this isn't how most women "work".
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:02 AM
2

So, even after like a million people have carefully, painstakingly explained the nature of our society and how women's lives are, you continue to maintain that men are "not really privileged," and that women are the ones who really have it easier? Man, you know what they say, "the grass is always greener..."
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 04:00 AM
1

It's true, it's less common these days. Maybe it's awkward or something.
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:56 AM
1

Yeah, but not all want to or can. Our economy is such that not everyone can be exorbitantly wealthy, and it can be very difficult without sufficient resources (ie capital) to significantly improve your lot in life. If you're a super hot woman and someone will give you a lifestyle you could likely not get on your own, and all you had to do was fuck them sometimes and act polite and hot, for many women, especially those who come from some measure of poverty, it's worth the trade-off. Also, not tha…
/r/ExRedPill06/05/22 03:48 AM
2

Women aren't "loved on condition"? Have you really thought this through much? Also, "constantly told privileged but not really" how old are you?
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 02:37 AM
3

Women who grew up in one of the safest, wealthiest nations in the world. Women who had access to top-notch education and could always find a job at any age if they wanted to support themselves. Women who could travel anywhere in the world visa-free and learn any language they wanted. Women who never worried about having a roof over their head. That's why. These are women who are not as dependent on men and have a degree of freedom and autonomy. They can't be as easily controlled and actually hav…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 02:15 AM
1

Most comments are about how pathetic the guys are? Where????
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 02:13 AM
1

Dumb, made up by christian conservatives because jacking off is often interpreted as a form of fornication and therefore bad. If you hear it can benefit you, there's a good chance it was all made up by those people specifically to stop people from masturbating. If you cannot find a real, legit, not funded by a christian org study with findings that support the purported benefits of "no fap," then go right ahead. But chances are much higher that you'll basically end up just torturing yourself for…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:46 AM
5

Care to give even a single fucking example of this?
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:40 AM
2

Also, if you're in wealthier circles and you've noticed that some rich men actually have similarly aged wives, that can happen if the guy is looking for more of a partnership with a woman (as in, he could probably have a trophy wife if he wanted).
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:35 AM
1

Maybe coz most 30 year old guys aren't millionaires?
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:30 AM
1

"Punching up" is basically definitionally not bullying.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:22 AM
3

preach
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:13 AM
1

Men being less choosy for STR has nothing to do with sex drive, really... Also second point, is that difference for STR or LTR, or both, and can you send study? Second half of second point is quite an interesting observation.
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:12 AM
2

Keep in mind, if you're using an evo-psych perspective, you have to acknowledge human pair-bonding tendencies. As in, women are less willing to have a one night stand than men with a less attractive partner because of differences in resource investment should the encounter result in pregnancy, but many women are looking for a long-term partner (one who may very well end up being less attractive than her), and are choosing based on other traits, like loyalty, trustworthiness, niceness, good paren…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/22 01:04 AM
7

The "no reason" part got me.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/22 09:54 PM
1

https://academic.oup.com/sf/article-abstract/88/2/865/2235342?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/upshot/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-field-the-pay-drops.html (elaborates on above using lay terminology) https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/salary-negotiations-a-catch-22-for-women https://www.epi.org/publication/womens-work-and-the-gender-pay-gap-how-discrimination-societal-norms-and-other-forces-affect-womens-occupational-choices-and-their-pay/ https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10…
/r/ExRedPill21/04/22 09:14 PM
3

with the big dick stfu
/r/ExRedPill20/04/22 05:08 AM
2

Well, in my opinion, you are always taking a risk when you look for a man who is looking for a traditional woman, that they'll be more abusive, but if you can get to know the signs of an abuser, you can weed out the guys like that and perhaps find a more traditional relationship that is healthy and that you enjoy being in. Although, might I ask, what has made you want to be a traditional woman? Also, if you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by "your body has fought you for most of your life…
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 11:41 PM
0

Do you still want to be traditional?
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 09:16 AM
10

Work on your charisma. You're going to have to compensate with a lot of confidence. Any sense that you're insecure about your height is going to make things 1,000,000x worse.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 08:46 AM
1

I'm absolutely not going to watch a stupid fucking red-pill video. I want to hear, straight from you, that you believe that oxytocin is not implicated in pair bonding in males.
/r/ExRedPill23/02/22 12:31 AM
2

Okay wise guy, so are you saying that oxytocin doesn't play a role in pair bond formation in males?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 11:05 PM
-1

You've made a lot of claims that I doubt you have robust empirical support for. Consider attempting to find it, and, should you discover yourself unable to, adapt your understanding.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 07:45 AM
2

I'm not going to explain all the reasons he fucking sucks, so I'll just direct you to rule 6 of r/exredpill.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 06:47 AM
4

Don't recommend Jordan Peterson.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 06:40 AM
3

Where did you even get this information? mens pair bonding and love hormone is vasopressin please try to do some of your own reading directly from peer reviewed papers instead of hearing it all second-hand from some hacks trying to make a quick buck.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/22 01:35 AM
1

I consider the redpill and related communities to be interesting social phenomena. I also consider it an ongoing global conversation, and one I believe I have a lot to contribute to, as I have both ample personal experience as well as academic knowledge on topics commonly discussed in the communities. It's fun to help people, and also I love to debate. It helps me improve my own understanding of the subjects discussed, and I'm happy to hear other people's perspectives and I like to try to gain a…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/22 04:32 AM
2

Also, regarding job difficulty, there's again a huge amount of evidence to suggest that as the demographics of a jobs shift from majority male to majority female, the average pay goes down, while the reverse is true when the shift is from majority female to majority male. And before you go off assuming that it's because women are just worse at the jobs and are being compensated accordingly, this trend holds true for the minority gender in those jobs as well. As in, men in majority female jobs ar…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/22 04:06 AM
0

Men being stronger is everything. It influences your ability to defend yourself. You likely massively take for granted the advantage you have over the average woman in that regard. Also strength literally comes with no responsibility inherently. If that's your own perception, that's commendable, but I'm not sure it's most people's. Also, in your hypothetical, who are you protecting women and children against? Probably other men, right? That just goes to show that if women are threatened by a man…
/r/ExRedPill19/02/22 03:51 AM
9

There's a lot of evidence to suggest that women who act assertively are socially punished while men are rewarded for those same behaviours, so, while to could make an argument about a biological component, the contribution made by social factors (i.e patriarchy) is likely quite large.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 01:13 AM
5

This is honesty so fucking stupid I don't know where to start. How about #1, men are usually way stronger, even after controlling for height, can't get pregnant and therefore don't risk dying in childbirth, are seen as sexually desirable for a lot longer, etc etc.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 12:57 AM
1

Well good luck with that
/r/ExRedPill17/02/22 12:29 AM
1

Why say unfortunately if you're the one deciding it?
/r/ExRedPill16/02/22 11:40 PM
3

Would you be okay if your wives had other partners?
/r/ExRedPill15/02/22 02:42 AM
1

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE FUCKING SHIT I SAID ABOUT FEMALE PROCEPTIVITY IN MAMMALS?!??! FOR GOD FUCKING SAKE GOD DAMNIT FUCK JUST LOOK UP "female proceptive behavior" IN GOOGLE SCHOLAR OR SOMETHING!!!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FUCKING HELP YOU FUCK GOD DAMN HELL. CORRELATED TO REAL-WORLD EVIDENCE MY ASS JESUS SON OF A BITCH CHRIST THERE'S LITERLLY NO HELPING YOU. ALSO IF YOU'RE A STRAIGHT GUY WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT "wouldn't touch a man with a barge pole" WTF HOW IS THIS EVEN REAL I DON'T THIN…
/r/ExRedPill04/02/22 04:38 AM
1

You seem to be really selectively paying attention to my points. Ultimately talking about zoology is stupid anyway because you can literally just ask women in real life. I guess you just won't believe actual women saying that they do like sex. I can't know that it's the same as how guys experience it, but I think I can tell the difference between romantic and sexual attraction. And stop calling it a hypothesis!
/r/ExRedPill04/02/22 01:21 AM
1

Regarding the stork thing, 4 isn't even that much different than 1, so I'm not sure what you're even saying. Offspring probably have a lower survival rate too, so it likely amounts to 1-2 per year that actually reach maturity anyway. Being more careful about mate selection is just not the same as being less sexual. That's why I used the stork example. Yes I know humans are not archosaurs, but the storks are a great example because the males do not seek a mate. They wait for females to come to th…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 04:11 AM
1

And I'm telling you that it does have a massive effect on society. You don't even have a control, so I'm not sure how you're coming to the conclusion that it doesn't. Plus there are a ton of species, especially pair-bonding species, where female courtship is common or even the norm. In many species of storks, for instance, males are the sole builders of the nest, and the females choose a mate based on the choice of location and quality of construction of the nest, as well as male physical appear…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 03:29 AM
1

Well, you completely ignored all the stuff I mentioned about females actively seeking mates, so what do you want me to say? Reproduction is the number one important thing for being evolutionarily successful, so it makes sense that even in female organisms the desire for engaging in mating behaviour is stronger than mere tolerance.
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 03:22 AM
1

There's definitely an evolutionary incentive for it, and yes the world would change if it didn't exist. Human women arguably don't go into heat, but do have an ovulation cycle. Saying that humans are so different from other animals is stupid. You can see any female mammal engage in proceptive behaviour, too. Male deer are more popular targets for hunters because they make better trophies, and females from places where all the males have been killed will leave the area in search of a mate. Even s…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/22 12:08 AM
14

"I think feminism has made women masculine and men feminine" People have had this perception throughout history as gender norms shift. "Masculine Women, Feminine Men" is literally the name of a song from the 1920s.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 04:21 AM
1

Maybe it just wants to be polite to the boy cats.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 04:07 AM
1

I don't know what it's like to be a guy. I mean women are more choosy and are more nervous about casual sex, and maybe don't like casual sex as much on average (idk), but how can you go from that to "women are actually not attracted to men at all and just have sex with them to be polite." I mean, animal models usually aren't 1:1, but have you ever seen an unspayed cat in heat?
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 03:54 AM
1

My mistake. I guess it was someone else.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 03:23 AM
1

"Nagging" lol. The only reason I responded to you is because I had been seeing your comments about women loving domination on a number of posts (NOT JUST THIS ONE) and I thought I should suggest that women vary more in their interests than you were implying. I'm not sure why you keep coming back to this post specifically, where, yes, OP was lamenting that a dominant-acting man was being respected and seen as a man by a woman he knows while he was not, and it would not be an unreasonable leap to …
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 03:05 AM
1

OMG you could not be more wrong.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 02:43 AM
1

That's super fucking weird. Try therapy if you can.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 02:37 AM
1

Okay. I've never told you to change yourself.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 02:27 AM
1

I'm surprised at how defensive you're being. I assure you there's no need. Obviously dominance is working for you. Just thought a caveat was in order for your advice, but you seem to disagree. Let's leave it at that.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 02:17 AM
1

"Uptight." Jeez, I don't think anyone's ever gotten me so wrong.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 02:09 AM
1

You're obviously pretty convinced in your opinion. I suspect I won't change your mind. And I mean it's creepy to assert that someone likes a certain sexual act, not that hair-pulling between consenting adults is in particular creepy or something. And look, I'm not saying you should stop doing what you're doing. It's obviously working for you. My disagreement is with your use of it as general dating advice.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:57 AM
1

Trust me, I don't (and it's a little creepy for you to say that). I don't think I would be bothering to engage in this conversation if that were the case. What I suspect is that you are attracted to and yourself attract the types of women who do happen to like this kind of thing, which has inadvertently lead to sampling bias.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:43 AM
1

Indeed, on that we can agree. But if you go around saying you think everyone should be a tradwife in the year 2022, you can expect the odd person to voice their disagreement.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:31 AM
1

So that's what I thought you meant. Yes I disagree and you're pretty fucked up for believing that.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:26 AM
32

So women who follow a show like that phone into it. "Wild," as you say. Yeah believe it or not the people who phone a show tend to agree with its central premise. This is not what scientists would call a representative sample, if your goal was to make generalizations about the entire population of the US.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:23 AM
1

What I was wondering is whether you "believe" in it for yourself, or for society more generally. You realize there is a very big difference between stating a personal preference and making prescriptive statements for society as a whole, right?
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:21 AM
1

My point is primarily that your assessment of women is a bit too general. You've been recommending dominance on other posts where OP did not explicitly request advice on it, so you seem to think it's good advice for improving your attractiveness to women. If (an) OP is attracted to more submissive women, then it can be good advice on how to get women like that, but as a general piece of dating advice, it lacks necessary caveats.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:18 AM
24

How does he choose the women, OP? Is it randomly from the general population?
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:12 AM
1

lol. I don't even know what it means, how can I have a problem with it
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 01:11 AM
1

Yeah, I never said all either; you've been commenting on a lot of posts with the recommendation that OP act more dominant, which kind of implies you think the vast majority of women enjoy it. A lot do, obviously, but it's not the universally helpful advice you seem to make it out to be.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 12:36 AM
7

You can always find someone from a certain demographic who will say a certain thing. If you actively seek out people who say what you want to hear and then baselessly extrapolate their beliefs to all or even most people from that demographic that's not the most scientific way to reach a conclusion
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 12:13 AM
40

"they should let men have the higher paying jobs" lmao.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/22 12:09 AM
1

Based on your post history, I suspect this will be difficult for you to believe, but a lot of women really don't like being treated in the ways you're describing.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 10:38 PM
1

"believes in gender roles" lol.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 09:59 PM
1

YES. Yes. Definitely women are attracted to men. Not all women, but most are. I've been attracted to tons of guys in my life, including many who would not be considered traditionally masculine or particularly good looking. The most I've ever let on is changing the tone of my voice around them slightly. I've certainly never "hit on" a guy. Social suicide.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/22 09:47 PM
1

I'm getting a sense that your understanding of evolutionary biology is not as thorough as I had initially assumed. I'm not sure how productive it is to continue our conversation. I'm sorry.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/22 01:00 AM
1

First off, I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying men wouldn't be happy to have multiple partners, but that men are definitely NOT more condemned today, or ever for that matter, for cheating than women, which you have repeatedly argued is the case. Also, you do understand that although the desire for more partners or better partners will inevitably exist in all species which have dimorphic gametes, humans are still a pair-bonding species instinctually. As in there is a pretty strong drive…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 09:09 PM
1

I say society is uber confused on gender roles. I believe in them, definitely beneficial to family and community building. ​ In what way?
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 05:17 AM
1

You "don't agree with the direction we are going"? What does that even mean?
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 05:11 AM
1

Yes, I was talking about the woman not disclosing to her partners that they aren't exclusive. No, you didn't just make a claim about men's desires, you said this: If men were given a free pass to have a faithful main chick and freaky side chicks, and not be shamed for it, we would be through the fucking moon as a gender. That will never, ever happen for us and we are not delusional about that fact. So that's just verifiably false from a historical perspective and false today. And touching on wha…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/22 03:30 AM
1

I mean it does occasionally happen, but, yeah, generally not.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 06:25 AM
1

I agree with you on that. I'm a woman and I'm small myself. You just said that no amount of being turned on affects that, which was a weird way to phrase it, since it's technically untrue.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 06:22 AM
0

Hate to interject here, but arousal does cause the vagina to lengthen.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 01:18 AM
1

I'm white and a lot of other white women I know have said some really creepy things about black men to me. I think it's really common for black men to be fetishized in the west. Though I couldn't tell you how common it is for women to actually cheat on their partners specifically with a black man. I think that's more of a porn thing.
/r/ExRedPill26/01/22 12:58 AM
1

tag yourself I'm mental
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 11:33 PM
1

rip to your life
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 08:17 PM
1

RP men: "I like my women like I like my dogs."
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 08:09 PM
1

leave him sis
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 07:27 PM
1

No I would say that it's not hard to find someone at your own level So this entire post is just about wanting a really hot partner? I don't think anyone has ever doubted that people tend to end up with those in their league. Is this some kind of revelation to you?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 07:11 PM
1

If they knew what they were getting into, what's the issue, sorry?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:35 PM
2

There's big difference between having a (reasonable imo) dating preference and shouting from the rooftops that single mothers signal the downfall of the West and are the scum of the Earth. It's definitely not that they "just don't want to raise another man's seed."
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:30 PM
1

If they choose to stay with you, doesn't that imply the opposite?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:35 AM
0

I don't think humans instinctually avoid those animals.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:29 AM
3

You do realize that pair bonding and sexual monogamy aren't the same thing, right? Many species of birds pair bond as a rule, but may engage in extra-pair copulations. Also, I don't feel like trying to find the study you're talking about so can you send the link?
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:15 AM
1

well they're seeking sex but not seeking harassment. i guess that would be it
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 06:00 AM
2

Just a few things I'll comment on here: -men can also get STIs from sexual encounters, so why did you even include that one for women -lots of women don't regularly orgasm from sex with a long-term partner -you're responding to someone who is asking why people assume women typically have sex for reasons other than enjoyment by saying "there is not much evidence to assume otherwise." Just take some time to think about that one.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 05:44 AM
2

Maybe on some level you lose respect for them because you feel like they wouldn't be faithful to you if they were your partner. But also, you say they are "giving themselves away," which might be how you see it as a guy, but the woman is probably doing it because she wants to. She doesn't see it as "giving herself away." And also you said "the girl has no respect for themselves," which, why would that be the case? Maybe if she had sex with people she had no interest in just because they asked, b…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 05:29 AM
1

What's relevant about the fact that it was a minority of men? If 1 man has multiple partners, then some men might not end up reproducing, that's how it works, since the sex ratio of humans is often 50/50 (things like war can affect this, obviously). The status of the man allowed them to obtain multiple partners, but was not the reason they got a "free pass." It was the fact that they are men. There are a plethora of reasons, both biological and social, for this. Same goes for my other point, whi…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/22 05:13 AM
2

Men literally got a free pass to do that for thousands of years and basically still do, and women are definitely still shamed for non-consensual polyandry. wtf are you talking about.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 09:04 PM
2

Why would you assume this?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 09:01 PM
1

Why are you a misogynist?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/22 08:58 PM
1

It's been like this for a while. I personally think it should have been included in the latest redpill/blackpill ban.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 06:52 PM
2

Yeah, like stalker types.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/21 06:34 PM
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