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Assuming they are straight they have experience with 1 vagina. In studies several thousand of women report their experiences. Studies align with my personal experience and what I've heard from my female friends. So I'd rather trust the studies then people that apply their own experiences to a whole group.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:09 PM
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Yeah in this thread I've also mostly seen women. They post a source without reading it to prove that most women can't cum from penetration. I point out that it actually shows that most women can. Then they call me a virgin and pretend that their personal experiences are true for all women. I forgot to factor solipsism into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 03:48 PM
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Why would they not count as women that can cum from penetration alone just because it only happens half the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 01:28 PM
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Also this is far from your claim of 50+% of women can orgasm from PIV alone. Why do those that can do it regularly not count? 18% reported that they can't cum from penetration alone, and over 50% stated that they do cum from penetration alone half the time or more. Why should only those that cum always count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:55 AM
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How many women did that study ask? 0
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:21 AM
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Women that can have vaginal orgasms can tell the difference if it was clitoral, vaginal or mixed so I'd just ask her how it felt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:37 PM
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Okay, here's more detail https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2020.01.029 A total of 303 women (aged 18-75 years, mean age: 39.8 years) completed the survey on a scheduled cutoff date in 2016. Most women preferred intercourse as the best trigger for orgasm. When reporting what kind of stimulation the women needed or preferred to be able to reach orgasm, 62% reported that intercourse was the best trigger for orgasm, second best triggers were external stimulation by a partner’s hand (48%) or by mouth (4…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:36 PM
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Sorry, yeah I must have mixed that together mentally with the next comment below you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:33 PM
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For many women clitoral orgasms are like masturbating, but vaginal ones are like love. What works for her is also learning which angles work, to take it slow, when to go faster, to do more grinding and less in and out, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:22 PM
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That may all be true for you, but it's not for most women. Many can cum from doggy, even if you tell yourself that they were just lying to me. They have no need, because they know that I'm a good listener and a pleaser. If they don't enjoy it we do something else. For many lying on a sex pillow and having their legs straight up to allow for deep penetration is their preferred way of reaching an orgasm. I'm often the one that doesn't like the position as much, but do it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:19 PM
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If you had been a participant of the study, how would you have answered? So as a guy I'd say that like if we're doing doggy it's vaginal, if I give her a reacharound it depends on how she describes it. Maybe it was a mostly clitoral one, maybe it was a mixed one. If she's on top and grinding hard that counts as penetration plus clitoral. But if I'm like only using half my dick and she's using her magic wand it's like almost all clitoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:10 PM
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That's an article. That's not a study. So here's what your article falsely states: In the same study described above, less than 1 in 5 women reported being able to orgasm through vaginal stimulation without clitoral stimulation (6). And here's the source they are using: 6: Herbenick D, Fu TC, Arter J, Sanders SA, Dodge B. Women's experiences with genital touching, sexual pleasure, and orgasm: results from a US probability sample of women ages 18 to 94. Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy. 2017 Aug …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:05 PM
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That's a good point. But I think that it still did more harm than good, as now there's plenty that think that they can't cum from penetration because their first boyfriend just jackhammered without caring for her pleasure. And her assuming that she can't led to her not trying around enough. Thinking that they can't leads to them seeing penetration as something that's primarily done for his pleasure. It leads to them not caring about their own pleasure enough. A lot of women say that it took them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:00 PM
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If you want to pull the "but the clitoris is getting indirectly stimulated" route - no that doesn't debunk the fact that most can cum from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:50 PM
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“my dicks gotta do all the work”. The "most women can't cum from penetration" myth makes them not doing any work during intercourse. That leads to penetration being seen as something that's primarily is done for his pleasure and leads to jackhammering and starfishing. The idea that most women can cum from penetration leads to more communication to figure out what works for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:47 PM
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Like if they jackhammer long enough from across the room…….. Where have you seen me argue against doing anything else and just jackhammering? "most women can cum from penetration alone" is not the same as "we should ignore all foreplay and just jackhammer without caring for her pleasure"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:39 PM
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That’s why I was trying to explain to this guy that most women might say that the orgasm from PIV but they prob don’t realize that it’s clit stimulation. If they had different ones women can tell the difference between clitoral, vaginal and mixed orgasms. Clitoral orgasms (and of course G spot orgasms) are caused by stimulation of the same nerves as penis orgasms, but deep vaginal orgasms are caused by the same nerves as prostate orgasms. And just like guys can tell if they've had a prostate or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:33 PM
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With all other factors removed, the sole act of a dick entering a vagina gives no pleasure. It does to a lot of women. More women report penetration as one of their preferred sexual activities and as their best trigger for orgasm than getting their clitoris stimulated, getting oral or getting fingered. The vaginal canal is meant to have minimal feelings and nerve endings to reduce pain in childbirth. The vaginal has feelings all the way. My girlfriend can feel my head pulsating before I cum. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:29 PM
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The studies go into detail between those two different concepts. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2020.01.029 A total of 303 women (aged 18-75 years, mean age: 39.8 years) completed the survey on a scheduled cutoff date in 2016. Most women preferred intercourse as the best trigger for orgasm. When reporting what kind of stimulation the women needed or preferred to be able to reach orgasm, 62% reported that intercourse was the best trigger for orgasm, second best triggers were external stimulation …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:24 PM
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A proper study would present it in boolean, do you orgasm from PIV alone, True or False. You wouldn't add that 18% and 36% together, because that "maybe" answer is ACTUALLY clitoral stimulation. Why should the "can cum from penetration alone but it feels better with additional optional clitoral stimulation" 36% not count as women that can cum from penetration alone? Here's Table 2 which is more detailed. Self-Reported Frequency of Orgasm Among Women During Penile-Vaginal Intercourse Frequency Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 10:15 PM
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Non of these studies state what PIV alone means. You didn't read those studies. They are more specific than you assume them to be. This one also mentioned in Table 3 that 77% state that foreplay (spending time to build up arousal) was needed for their orgasms. 58% said that a partner who knows what they want. 55% emotional intimacy. 44% not feeling rushed. 39% stated that clitoral stimulation was needed. 18% sex that lasts long. 10% anal sex. The truth will be that these women who report piv alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 09:10 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/202008/attention-men-intercourse-alone-brings-few-women-orgasm Only 18 percent—about one in six—said they could come from intercourse alone. The rest—82 percent—said they needed direct clitoral stimulation. And 36 percent said that no matter how they climaxed, orgasms felt more satisfying when the lovemaking included gentle, extended clitoral caresses. That's again the Herbenick study, which actually said that the 36% can cum through penetrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:55 PM
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/neepb8/the-science-of-female-pleasure-still-needs-more-attention A [study(http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1346530) published last month in The Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that nearly 37 percent of American women required clitoral stimulation to experience [orgasm(https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/8x9xg4/women-are-having-their-first-orgasms-earlier-than-ever), compared with 18 percent of women who said that vaginal penetrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:34 PM
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Her own sources showed that most women can cum from penetration. One even showed more women reporting that they cum from penetration than through clitoral stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:27 PM
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Actually I personally prefer tying them up and teasing them with a magic wand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:19 PM
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Of course, I forgot that the magical power of solipsism allows your experiences to be universally true for all women - even if those women state different in studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:18 PM
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Women can cum from vaginal penetration alone, but the reality is that’s not a large number. Look through this thread. It's actually most women that can cum from penetration alone. Speaking as a female, vaginal penetration doesn’t feel like much UNLESS the clit is being stimulated. For a lot of us, it’s as bland as putting in a tampon. Sure there are pleasure zones in the vagina, but our epicenter is the G spot, which is located around the clit. The G-spot is great for fingering, but for penetrat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:17 PM
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Okay, so what is it? Is it a source you want to use to debunk me, or is it actually just women that lie as it doesn't show what you wanted it to show?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:04 PM
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Results revealed that around 18 percent of can reach their orgasm during vaginal intercourse alone. Over one third of women – 36 percent – reported that they preferred clitoral stimulation to reach their peak. Another 36 percent women said the clitoral stimulation served to enhance their experience of vaginal intercourse. Despite this many women fake an orgasm during penetrative intercourse. That's again the same study. Dropping multiple links to the same study doesn't make you more correct. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:02 PM
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A [study(http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1346530) published last month in The Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy found that nearly 37 percent of American women required clitoral stimulation to experience [orgasm(https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/8x9xg4/women-are-having-their-first-orgasms-earlier-than-ever), compared with 18 percent of women who said that vaginal penetration alone was enough to come. That's again the Herbenick study which actually showed that its more…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 08:00 PM
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Here again the problem is just dropping an link to an article instead of looking at the studies themselves Your link states: Research on female orgasms is lacking. One study found that only 6% of women can achieve orgasm through vaginal stimulation alone, and less than half of all women orgasm almost every time they have sex. [2] But the linked source actually shows something completely different. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/figure/10.3402/snp.v6.31624?scroll=top&needAccess=true Figure 10 sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:56 PM
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Here again the problem is just dropping an link to an article instead of looking at the studies themselves Your link states: Research on female orgasms is lacking. One study found that only 6% of women can achieve orgasm through vaginal stimulation alone, and less than half of all women orgasm almost every time they have sex. [2] But the linked source actually shows something completely different. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/figure/10.3402/snp.v6.31624?scroll=top&needAccess=true Figure 10 sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:55 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289 Sex researchers say 27 percent of women don't climax during vaginal sex. About 75 percent of all women never reach orgasm from intercourse alone. What is their source? It's not even linked as far as I can tell, which again is the problem with just using articles about studies instead of the studies themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:44 PM
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81.6% of women don’t orgasm from intercourse alone (without additional clit stimulation). Only 18.4% of women report that intercourse alone is sufficient to orgasm. [14] That's the problem with just dropping links to articles instead of using the studies themselves. Here's what their source actually states: While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicate…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:41 PM
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You can throw studies around all you want. In fact, if you search in an unbiased fashion, you can see even more studies that say women don't cum from PIV alone. Show those. In reality those are the exact same studies that I posted, but most articles about them misrepresent what they were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 07:18 PM
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Can you show me where I said that you shouldn't eat women out? Stop making up strawman arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:33 PM
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If the dude that can't make her cum is her first guy she might not know better and not even try experimenting enough to find out what works for her. She might just believe that she can't orgasm from sex and see it as something that's done primarily for the guys pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:32 PM
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That’s literally the opposite of studies posted. Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:31 PM
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A quarter that always have orgasms from penetration alone and another half that has them regularly. Why should only those that always have orgasms from penetration count as being able to cum from penetration? Women that cum regularly from penetration alone are also women that can cum from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:29 PM
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Are you blind or just trolling? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/iusaemt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/iusacng/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/iusaa63/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/iusa4e4/ https://www.redd…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:27 PM
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Why should your articles about studies - which misrepresent their sources - hold more weight than the studies themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/ius9zvj/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:25 PM
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A lot of women can’t come from just penetration tho. Most women can cum from penetration: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/ykbdru/cmv_guys_on_reddit_love_to_claim_that_only_an/ius9zvj/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:24 PM
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Don't just drop articles about studies. Link to the studies and quote the relevant parts themselves. I did my part and showed studies and meta-analyses that show that most women can cum from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:20 PM
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It's a scientific "fact" that a lot of women can't orgasm from penetration. It's just something that people present as a fact even though studies show the opposite. Female Orgasm and Overall Sexual Function and Habits: A Descriptive Study of a Cohort of U.S. Women A total of 303 women (aged 18-75 years, mean age: 39.8 years) completed the survey on a scheduled cutoff date in 2016. Most women preferred intercourse as the best trigger for orgasm. Most women (89%) responded “yes” when asked, “Do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:13 PM
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No we can’t lol. Most women can. All studies show that women that can't are the minority. And more women would experience vaginal orgasms if they stopped believing men that only an incredibly low amount of women can cum. If women believe that they can't they are less likely to experiment and to look for better, less selfish and more attentive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:05 PM
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If only a third of women can reliably come from PIV then the majority (two-thirds) can’t. But most women can. Most women report that they can cum from PIV and it's a minority that rarely or never do. But even the best male lover is going to have difficulty making a woman orgasm if she doesn't know how to do it herself. Those are outliers as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:01 PM
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There's some women with a broken attachment styles that crave the red drama. They can't even believe that someone would love them so they subconsciously look for red pill men that don't show any positive feelings towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:59 PM
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I posted several studies here that show that it's even higher than 20% for penetration alone. Like: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16409218/ But the ability to reach orgasm (Table 3) solely by penile movements in the vagina was age independently reported by about 55% In this study, 51-57% of women achieved orgasm though penile penetration alone, and 50% through clitoral stimulation alone Of course in reality it will mostly be mixed, but in this study more women reported having had an orgasm thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:54 PM
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"guys claim that only an incredibly low amount of women can cum from penetration because they don't want to blame themselves" is not the same as "guys should ignore the clit" I'm not advocating against clit stimmy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:52 PM
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This seems easy to figure out. The point I'm trying to understand is what guys gain from claiming that only an incredibly low amount of women can cum from penetration. It's such a common statement on subreddits like r/sex, r/askredditafterdark and even r/bigdickproblems
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:41 PM
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I'm not arguing against clit stimmy. I'm arguing against the guys on Reddit that claim that only an incredibly low amount of women can cum from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:40 PM
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Female Orgasm and Overall Sexual Function and Habits: A Descriptive Study of a Cohort of U.S. Women A total of 303 women (aged 18-75 years, mean age: 39.8 years) completed the survey on a scheduled cutoff date in 2016. Most women preferred intercourse as the best trigger for orgasm. Most women (89%) responded “yes” when asked, “Do you find the size of your partner’s penis satisfactory?” 43% agreed when asked, “Do you think that size of the penis is important for your sexual satisfaction?” Furthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:33 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515331520 In a representative sample of the Czech population, 1,000 women reported their vaginal orgasm consistency (from never to almost every time; only 21.9% never had a vaginal orgasm), estimates of their typical foreplay and PVI durations, what they were told in childhood and adolescence was the important zone for inducing female orgasm, their degree of focus on vaginal sensations during PVI, and whether they were more likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:32 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16409218/ But the ability to reach orgasm (Table 3) solely by penile movements in the vagina was age independently reported by about 55% In this study, 51-57% of women achieved orgasm though penile penetration alone, and 50% through clitoral stimulation alone In this study more women reported having had an orgasm through penile penetration than through clitoral stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:32 PM
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https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2008.00786.x In a sample of 94 healthy Portuguese women, vaginal orgasm (triggered solely by penile–vaginal intercourse) was associated with less use of DSQ-40 immature defenses. Vaginal orgasm was associated with less somatization, dissociation, displacement, autistic fantasy, devaluation, and isolation of affect. Orgasm from clitoral stimulation or combined clitoral-intercourse stimulation was not associated with less use of immature defenses, and was associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:31 PM
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https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)33296-3/fulltext Women (N = 258, predominantly Scottish) completed an online survey reporting their frequencies of various sexual activities and corresponding orgasms, age, and the prominence of the tubercle of their upper lip. An important caveat to this is that no matter how prominent a woman’s tubercle was, she was still more likely than not to have had a vaginal orgasm before. Specifically, at least 2/3 of women in each tubercle group reporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:31 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1346530?af=R&journalCode=usmt20 While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse. In this sample 18.4% reported that they can cum from penetration alone and another 36% tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:30 PM
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Dr. Emily Nagoski is a sex researcher who wrote the book Come As You Are and she summarized the research into this topic as: Forty years of research show that about a quarter of women are reliably orgasmic from vaginal stimulation alone. Half of women are sometimes orgasmic, and a third are never or rarely orgasmic from vaginal sex. A quarter of women cum most of the time from PIV sex and half sometimes, only a third report that they never or rarely cum from penetrative sex alone. Yet most of Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:30 PM
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Can I change it to Debate or do I need CMV flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:57 PM
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Female Orgasm and Overall Sexual Function and Habits: A Descriptive Study of a Cohort of U.S. Women A total of 303 women (aged 18-75 years, mean age: 39.8 years) completed the survey on a scheduled cutoff date in 2016. Most women preferred intercourse as the best trigger for orgasm. Most women (89%) responded “yes” when asked, “Do you find the size of your partner’s penis satisfactory?” 43% agreed when asked, “Do you think that size of the penis is important for your sexual satisfaction?” Furthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:57 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515331520 In a representative sample of the Czech population, 1,000 women reported their vaginal orgasm consistency (from never to almost every time; only 21.9% never had a vaginal orgasm), estimates of their typical foreplay and PVI durations, what they were told in childhood and adolescence was the important zone for inducing female orgasm, their degree of focus on vaginal sensations during PVI, and whether they were more likely to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:56 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16409218/ But the ability to reach orgasm (Table 3) solely by penile movements in the vagina was age independently reported by about 55% In this study, 51-57% of women achieved orgasm though penile penetration alone, and 50% through clitoral stimulation alone In this study more women reported having had an orgasm through penile penetration than through clitoral stimulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:56 PM
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https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2008.00786.x In a sample of 94 healthy Portuguese women, vaginal orgasm (triggered solely by penile–vaginal intercourse) was associated with less use of DSQ-40 immature defenses. Vaginal orgasm was associated with less somatization, dissociation, displacement, autistic fantasy, devaluation, and isolation of affect. Orgasm from clitoral stimulation or combined clitoral-intercourse stimulation was not associated with less use of immature defenses, and was associ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:55 PM
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https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)33296-3/fulltext Women (N = 258, predominantly Scottish) completed an online survey reporting their frequencies of various sexual activities and corresponding orgasms, age, and the prominence of the tubercle of their upper lip. An important caveat to this is that no matter how prominent a woman’s tubercle was, she was still more likely than not to have had a vaginal orgasm before. Specifically, at least 2/3 of women in each tubercle group reporte…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:55 PM
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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1346530?af=R&journalCode=usmt20 While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse. In this sample 18.4% reported that they can cum from penetration alone and another 36% tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:53 PM
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Dr. Emily Nagoski is a sex researcher who wrote the book Come As You Are and she summarized the research into this topic as: Forty years of research show that about a quarter of women are reliably orgasmic from vaginal stimulation alone. Half of women are sometimes orgasmic, and a third are never or rarely orgasmic from vaginal sex. A quarter of women cum most of the time from PIV sex and half sometimes, only a third report that they never or rarely cum from penetrative sex alone. Yet most of Re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:52 PM
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the larger penis can reach areas that the smaller penis can't The "hitting the bottom of her vagina" is either the A or P spot at the end of her vaginal canal. Also known as the zombie button or cul de sac. https://www.livescience.com/23785-penis-size-matters-orgasms.html A new study finds that women who have frequent vaginal orgasms are more likely than other women to say they climax more easily with men with larger penises Women who tend to prefer penile-vaginal intercourse over other types of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:59 PM
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Same here. On Reddit it's always like "women don't even enjoy casual sex" But in real life it's like "now that I'm single I haven't had sex in a month. I need some good dick. I'm gonna grab the first tall guy and get laid tonight, wish me luck" and then the next day she gets high fives from her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 01:05 PM
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Sometimes it’s because they prefer smaller and are projecting that onto other women Yeah that's so funny. "I don't care about size so women don't care about size". I personally prefer slutty, tattooed women but I'm not going to pretend that most guys share my taste or that most guys won't have a problem with them. Their individual tastes just don't invalidate broad trends. Sometimes it's even weirder. Like on r/AskReddit and r/AskRedditAfterDark you will sometimes see women argue size doesn't ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:54 PM
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I’ve never heard women speak positively about small penises outside of Reddit, and even then there is a selective skew because positive opinions about small penises are typically being solicited. I did, but it's always like "I prefer smaller because I have a super-sensitive cervix" or "I prefer smaller because I have a tilted uterus" It's interesting though how on Reddit it's usually like "size doesn't matter, I prefer small and average", but in reality most women will just unabashedly and unpro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:41 PM
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The point is that BDE is associated with positive attributes and SDE with negative attributes because women generally associate bigger dicks with more positive things (being more attractive, better sex, etc) and smaller dicks with negative ones. There's a preference for bigger and in order to justify it they attach other positive personality traits to size.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:36 PM
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Tall, attractive, hung guys are confident unless they have mental issues. Short, ugly, micropenised guys lack confidence unless they have mental issues. The external validation or pressure can make or break someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:17 PM
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https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2020.01.029 43% agreed when asked, “Do you think that size of the penis is important for your sexual satisfaction?” Furthermore, 29% reported that the bigger the penis, the better the sexual satisfaction, whereas 51% reported that a bigger penis did not matter for sexual satisfaction (“Do you think that the bigger the penis is, the higher is your sexual pleasure/satisfaction?”). In this study it mattered to a large portion of women. https://bjui-journals.onlinelibr…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:13 PM
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Women with a little experience know damn well size doesn’t matter… If women know that size doesn't matter, why did they generally associate bigger dicks with better sex and being better sexual partners in this study? And in all of those studies: https://www.livescience.com/23785-penis-size-matters-orgasms.html A new study finds that women who have frequent vaginal orgasms are more likely than other women to say they climax more easily with men with larger penises Women who tend to prefer penile-…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:12 PM
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No surprise. It probably also showed that attractive people are more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:04 PM
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Yeah, duh. The term priapism is based on his name Priapus
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:03 PM
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Women: "he drives a truck, he must be compensating for his tiny dick!", "he's angry and neurotic. That's Small Dick Energy!", "he's so cool and attractive, that's Big Dick Energy" Also women: "why do guys think that size matters? I know, it must be porn"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 12:02 PM
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So in Greece, men (and therefore probably women) objectified other men and attributed different characteristics to them based on their penis size In Ancient Greece small dicks were preferred culturally because the guys were pederasts and smaller dicks were better suited for anally raping young boys. The opinions of women in Ancient Greece didn't factor into the general cultural preference, but some of the stories show that even back then it was known that women generally prefer bigger. Priapus f…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:29 AM
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Not women NEARLY as much as other men In my experience it's almost always women that make "he must be compensating for something" jokes or that instinctively accuse guys with large trucks of having a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:24 AM
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Reddit study Why on Earth would they want to ask for the opinion of idiots? The study wasn't done on Reddit. They took the dick pics from Reddit. This study is ass, but also what's more important is the fact that THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN DICK SIZE AND PERSONALITY Why are you so sure that there's no correlation? Maybe women associate being neurotic with smaller dicks and being confident and better in bed with bigger dicks because that's what they've experienced. It would make sense that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:23 AM
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because you seem to not want to put effort in giving her other orgasms When have I ever argued against those? Putting more effort into making PIV more pleasureable for isn't the same as putting less effort elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:02 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to post them though and I'm sorry that they still aren't enough to convince me. Most of your own sources support my position. Nothing can convince you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:10 PM
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https://abcnews.go.com/Health/ReproductiveHealth/sex-study-female-orgasm-eludes-majority-women/story?id=8485289 I mixed it up previously. It's this statement here which is based on outdated studies: About 75 percent of all women never reach orgasm from intercourse alone -- that is without the extra help of sex toys, hands or tongue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:08 PM
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https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2013/2/1/sex-question-friday-what-percentage-of-women-reach-orgasm-fr/ Although the exact numbers vary quite a bit across studies, there are indeed some women who report never having climaxed in their entire lives. For example, this number was 10% in Alfred Kinsey’s pioneering research on human sexuality in the 1940s and 50s [1], and 3% in a recent national survey in Sweden [2]. Most other studies I have seen have yielded numbers in between. Thus, the statis…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 02:07 PM
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So I'm liking to articles about studies but you are simply saying "they falsely claim" with no additional explanation or links Are you blind? I gave you a lengthy explanation and the link to their sources is right there next to that statement Here let me try again: They falsely claim: 81.6% of women don’t orgasm from intercourse alone (without additional clit stimulation). Only 18.4% of women report that intercourse alone is sufficient to orgasm But their source actually says: While 18.4% of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:58 PM
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Brody et al 2010: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609515331520 In a representative sample of the Czech population, 1,000 women reported their vaginal orgasm consistency (from never to almost every time; only 21.9% never had a vaginal orgasm), estimates of their typical foreplay and PVI durations, what they were told in childhood and adolescence was the important zone for inducing female orgasm, their degree of focus on vaginal sensations during PVI, and whether they we…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:46 PM
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You didn't link to research, you linked to articles about research. This is problematic because they make mistakes. For example https://pleasurebetter.com/orgasm-statistics/ They falsely claim: 81.6% of women don’t orgasm from intercourse alone (without additional clit stimulation). Only 18.4% of women report that intercourse alone is sufficient to orgasm But their source actually says: While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimul…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 01:45 PM
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50% of the women said they experienced orgasm from PIV less than a quarter of the time. Which shows that the "only an incredibly low amount of women are able to cum from PIV sex" rhetoric is wrong. Only 20% had ever had one at all and many of the women who had them reported using simultaneous clitoral stimulation. How does that compute? If 50% have one a quarter of the time how have only 20% ever had one? You clearly didn't look at the right numbers Someone else here compared this to telling a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:28 PM
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I said IME. I may be an outlier though as I have a big dick In studies the majority of women report that they are able to But many women on Reddit use solipsism to go from "I personally can't" to "most women can't"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:26 PM
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Who even goes on dates before they had sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:10 AM
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It's a minority that can't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:41 AM
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Studies show that most can
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 05:41 AM
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Why does it matter if it was before the sexual revolution? Anatomy hasn't changed in 70 years. Anatomy hasn't. But sex has. Back then women weren't expected to enjoy sex. It was seen as wrong and sex was something for men to enjoy. The sexual revolution allowed women to enjoy sex and we started to realize what the G spot is and that women can have orgasms. It matters a lot if it was done a hundred years ago or after feminism happened. You're misreading these data. It's saying 37% can come from j…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:24 PM
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https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2013/2/1/sex-question-friday-what-percentage-of-women-reach-orgasm-fr/ That's not a source. Thanks for your question. Unfortunately, I cannot point you to a scientific source for these statistics because I am not sure where they came from and I don’t think they are completely accurate Literally starts out by saying that this number doesn't even have sources she can find and then goes on to say that the "75% can't cum from penetration" number is too high - wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 11:09 PM
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But I also believe myself and other women who have great difficulty with PIV sex but continue it to feel close to or please put male partners. But that's why I looked for all available studies. I always heard on Reddit that only a tiny percentage of women can have vaginal orgasms, but most women I had sex with were able to. So I was wondering if they were lying to me (and our common friends) and faking it without me noticing, which is why I ended up reading a lot of sources. And well in anonymou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:55 PM
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How does that not confirm what I said You said it doesn't work with her on top. But this article explicitly lists her being on top. Reverse...bro For the A spot yes, but for the P spot it works if she's facing you. Maybe you just haven't had a guy that was long enough to reach the even deeper P spot with you on top No matter if she's facing me or facing away she can pick a spot and can have vaginal orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:45 PM
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I just did a quick Google search and found several studies that say the opposite. Show them. I bet you found articles that use the same sources but quote them falsely. I also found several articles that use the Herbenick study to prove that most women can't have them, even though the actual study showed that more than half of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:43 PM
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I just googled A spot positions and a lot of articles even mention on top https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex/a-spot Penetratee-on-top positions (often known as cowgirl) — and its many variations — generally allow for deep penetration. https://www.promescent.com/blogs/learn/a-spot Woman on top, facing away Reverse cowgirl to hit the A-Spot With the penetrative partner lying on their back, the woman rides them, facing away (i.e., reverse cowgirl). This allows for greater control of dept…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:42 PM
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First because it's also what I hear from our common (mostly female) friends. Why would they be lying to them? Secondly because you feel it when she's having a real orgasm. Thirdly because I'm not an insecure men they try to make feel good. I'm often just one of their FWBs so it's just about the sex. Fourthly, why would they come back for more if they didn't enjoy it? And because I'm not pressuring them. They can be honest with me. They want me to learn so I'm better at pleasing them. And sometim…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:39 PM
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Because you are going in, in a certain angle, when on top and that angle needs to be in the opposite direction She can angle her whole body forwards or backwards to find the right angle. Aha... you are one of those You mean a typical normal person? That's how the vast majority of people start dating nowadays. All my relationships started from great sex first, and so did all my peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:32 PM
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https://www.livescience.com/23785-penis-size-matters-orgasms.html A new study finds that women who have frequent vaginal orgasms are more likely than other women to say they climax more easily with men with larger penises Women who tend to prefer penile-vaginal intercourse over other types of sex also say the same. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What's being named the cul-de-sac is the area at the back of the vagina, behind the cervix. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:30 PM
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I think I experienced the Female Solipsism you Red guys keep talking about. Me: posts studies and personal experiences to show that most women can have vaginal orgasms Some of the women here: no that's not true. I personally can't so almost no women can
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:28 PM
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It's physically impossible to reach that spot while on top Why should it be impossible? I have feelings in my dick, I can tell if I'm (or in this case she's) hitting the right spot You are the victim of women lying to make their guy feel better. If they were lying to me, why would their friends try to hook up with me afterwards? If they were lying to me, why did they tell our common friends that they had the best sex with me? You are not making any sense. Which isn't something I can pick, like I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:23 PM
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I don’t get why you want to take 3 times as long to get the same result. I don’t cum that way, I never have "I personally can't cum from PIV sex" isn't the same as "most women can't cum from PIV sex". You are the outlier here so don't project your experience on all women. The majority of women I had sex with had better orgasms and came faster when I fucked them right than when we used tongue or toys on her clit. I know how I cum and you can’t dictate my personal knowledge over my body. I'm not d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:20 PM
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You don't hit any spot on top. Sure, some women can like it, but not because that hits the a-spot or g-spot. You are physically not capable of getting to those spots while on top. Almost all women I had sex with had an easy time stimulating their A spot when they were on top. My ex would cum in a minute and had several vaginal orgasms back to back. How does stopping him, give me an orgasm? It prevents him from getting an orgasm, it doesn't give me one. It will give you one if you exchange him fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:14 PM
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If I fuck a guy while giving him a reacharound he will also cum quicker, but it will still be mostly a prostate orgasm. The clitoris is equivalent to the penis, but the deep erogenous zones that cause vaginal orgasms are like the prostate orgasms as it stimulates the same nerves. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What's being named the cul-de-sac is the area at the back of the vagina, behind the cervix. The vagina balloons out when a woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:12 PM
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The real world contains foreplay and oral and etc. Where have I ever said that you should ignore foreplay and oral?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:10 PM
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Could it be that this internal clitoral stimulation is what causes orgasm during PIV? The clitoris is equivalent to the penis, but the deep erogenous zones are like the prostate orgasms. It stimulates the same nerves. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What's being named the cul-de-sac is the area at the back of the vagina, behind the cervix. The vagina balloons out when a woman is sexually aroused, and space opens up away from the cervix, le…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:09 PM
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I was an escort for 5 years…. I’m pretty sure I know a bit more how adult men have sex with women than you do. Lol based on what? A prostitute you pay to fuck like a fucktoy is completely different than a girl you fuck because you want to please her. Being an escort doesn't tell you anything about how men have sex with women. It tells you how men have sex with a fleshlight. We pay escorts so that we can fuck without having to care about her pleasure. And we don't care if they actually orgasms. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:08 PM
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The clitoris is equivalent to the penis, but the deep erogenous zones are like the prostate orgasms. It stimulates the same nerves. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What's being named the cul-de-sac is the area at the back of the vagina, behind the cervix. The vagina balloons out when a woman is sexually aroused, and space opens up away from the cervix, leaving room for penetration and friction. If you haven't opened up yet and you hit the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:05 PM
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Their ability is limited to speaking up, not much they can do bro. There's so much you can do. Tell him what you want him to do. Get on top and do your thing. Stop him if he's shit. Don't waste your time with guys that don't fuck you right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:02 PM
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And honestly. Most men suck in bed and don’t even know female sexual anatomy that well to begin with So speak up and make him please you the way you need it. If more women knew that they could cum from PIV they would put more focus on making him please her instead of just letting it happen for his enjoyment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 10:01 PM
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For women that can cum from PIV it's seriously not that much time and effort. Whenever I taught a girl that she can cum vaginally it was easily and quickly achieved afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:28 PM
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If you had an easy way to get an orgasm and a long complicated way, which one would you choose? If done correctly it's really not long and complicated for most women. Putting focus on PIV isn't necessary to reach an orgasm. For 70% of women PIV is already the most important and appealing part of sex, so putting more focus on her pleasure would just make an already great part even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:15 PM
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But they can't control whether or not they can taste chocolate. That's all the guy. They can speak up and take control to explore it. But many women don't because they think that PIV sex is for the man's pleasure primarily because they assume they can't cum either way. A lot more could if they would focus on their own pleasure and make him focus on her good spots with a nice rhythm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:05 PM
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Do you predict that if in our society we practice only PVI like we likely did years ago the "orgasm gap" will reduce or increase? If so why? Where did I say that we should ignore the clitoris and only do PIV sex? I said that the "only an incredibly low amount of women can have orgasms from PIV sex" rhetoric brainwashes some women into thinking that penetrative sex is for the man's pleasure which makes them less likely to focus on their own pleasure. I'm for encouraging women to make them men foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:03 PM
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Would it be accepted that maybe and just maybe some lady parts are just too "unworkable"? Then "some can't cum from PIV sex", which isn't the same as the commonly stated "barely any women can cum from PIV sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:42 PM
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Vagina orgasm doesn’t mean they did not touch their clit the entire time and just got pounded. Where did I say that you should not ever touch their clit and just pound them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:31 PM
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But penetration is mostly for men's pleasure. Only if you don't make him focus on your G, A or P spot with a nice rhythm. Penetration can feel a lot better if you want it to be. Imagine if someone told you that you should find ways to orgasm without having the head of your penis stimulated. I'm not saying that you shouldn't rub your clit or have him lick it if you want to. I'm saying that the "most women can't cum from PIV sex" rhetoric brainwashes some into thinking that penetrative sex is for …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:27 PM
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"I personally can't cum from PIV" would not be a lie, but "almost no woman can cum from PIV" is a lie that's often stated here on Reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 03:23 PM
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My point isn't that all women have to cum from penetrative sex. My point is that the "most women can't cum from PIV sex" rhetoric brainwashes some into thinking that penetrative sex is for the man's pleasure, which makes them less likely to explore their own pleasure. If we instead told them the truth that most women can cum this way more women would make the man focus on her good spots with a nice rhythm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:59 PM
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Even tried a vibrating one, but we both liked it less than without
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:56 PM
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My dick is longer than my fingers though, not sure how that analogy works. I meant "if fingers can do it then so can do most dicks"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:56 PM
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I just think we’ve been brainwashed to believe we don’t need them because it’s in mens best interest to not have to do the work to get us there. That's why I made this thread. The "most women can't cum from PIV sex" rhetoric brainwashes some into thinking that penetrative sex is for the man's pleasure and that they would enjoy sex more if they communicated their needs and have him focus on her good spots with a nice rhythm. Thinking that you most likely can't have them hinders experimentation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:47 PM
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Based on what all the girls that have had vaginal orgasms with me told me they can tell the difference between clitoral, vaginal and mixed orgasms. I'm trusting those women that have had vaginal orgasms to know what they are talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:45 PM
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So you can't go "I think they would enjoy that one more", just like you can't say that people would like chocolate more then vanilla if they just tried chocolate. But if they never tried chocolate because they assume they can't have it they could be missing out on something
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:43 PM
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My girlfriend likes to use her magic wand on her clitoris while I'm fucking her slow and deep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:41 PM
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If you only focus on PIV and nothing else during sex with a woman then it will probably end in a dead bedroom. I didn't say to only focus on it. But that many women don't put enough focus on their own pleasure during PIV because they assume that they can't orgasm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:31 PM
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To make my sex life harder and less enjoyable? Most women that I taught about those spots felt sex became more enjoyable
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:24 PM
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I mean the context. It's usually stated in the context that penetrative sex isn't important to women because the vast majority can't orgasm this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:53 PM
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It's easier with bigger dicks, but those deep spots can also be reached by fingers so even average guys can stimulate them if they use good positions and angles. Communication, paying attention and foreplay make a lot more difference than size.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:52 PM
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Also as your study mentioned, having a bigger penis helps. That makes men feel very insecure and sad about their pps :( so it’s in their best interest to keep women believing that PIV feels bad for everyone, so more women will settle for them when they could be cumming. It's easier with bigger dicks, but those deep spots can also be reached by fingers so even average guys can stimulate them if they use good positions and angles.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:51 PM
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So yes, you can have a vaginal orgasm without stimulating the glans, because you're still stimulating the internal parts of the clitoris. The clitoris is equivalent to the penis, but the deep erogenous zones are like the prostate orgasms. It stimulates the same nerves. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What's being named the cul-de-sac is the area at the back of the vagina, behind the cervix. The vagina balloons out when a woman is sexually …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:49 PM
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Clit is the equivalent of the penis in a woman's body. Some women can orgasm during penetration because of their anatomy which makes it easier to stimulate the clitoris with a penis during penetration. And the deep erogenous zones (the A and P spot) are equivalent to prostate orgasms in men. I'm thinking women would enjoy penetrative sex more if they put more focus on their pleasure by making the guy keep hitting their G, A or P spot in a good rhythm.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:45 PM
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I'd guess a lot of women don't feel the need to go specifically for vaginal orgasm, when there's already an easy and fool-proof method. I'm thinking penetrative sex would be more enjoyable if they put more focus on their own pleasure by making the guy focus on hitting her G, A or P spot and keeping a good rhythm
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:43 PM
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Nobody does individual studies on one million people ffs. That's not a study. That's a census
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:36 PM
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No study needs a million participants. The accuracy and margin of error doesn't change much if you go from 1000 to 15000 participants. A million doesn't provide any additional benefit, except that it costs a whole lot more to conducts study
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:16 PM
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1,055
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:14 PM
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True, nobody is stopping them from massaging their clit while having intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:09 PM
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Just because you never had one doesn't mean that no women has them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:05 PM
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Based on what? I just posted several studies where more than half the women reported that they can cum from penetration alone. Like in the Herbenick study: While 18.4% of women reported that intercourse alone was sufficient for orgasm, 36.6% reported clitoral stimulation was necessary for orgasm during intercourse, and an additional 36% indicated that, while clitoral stimulation was not needed, their orgasms feel better if their clitoris is stimulated during intercourse. 18 + 36 = 54% More than …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 01:04 PM
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But still, why would a woman think that basically no woman can have PIV orgasms just because they themselves can't have them? Aren't women typically more likely to blame themselves? Like assuming that they are broken or that it's their fault. So why is it here the case that they instead insist that it's almost all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:34 PM
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They’re heavily invested in appearing less shallow and more “fair” than men are. I just don't get what individual women gain from doing this. Especially as nowadays it's acceptable for women to be sexual beings. So why do some try to return to pre-feminist times where women weren't supposed or expected to enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:32 PM
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How do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:30 PM
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Shall I change the flair to CMV or Debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 01:22 PM
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So, you can't even point me to a single comment that brought up legitimate arguments against my points. So where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 05:47 AM
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Can you point me to a comment which brought up a legitimate argument against any of my points?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:53 PM
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Where is the lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:39 PM
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You don't have to debate me. But if people tell me that I'm wrong about everything I expect them to be able to explain why I'm wrong for what reasons But as guys feel that I'm wrong for emotional reasons they are unable to use logical arguments to explain why I'm wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:12 PM
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Do you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:31 PM
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Red Pillers claim that men are the logical gender. Men on Reddit show that this isn't the case as they will use emotional reasoning instead of logic whenever their fragile feelings are threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:30 PM
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"range" includes those close to 7 as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:47 PM
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The second one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:41 PM
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They primarily shit on me because they desperately want to believe that they are much bigger than they actually are and can't handle the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:31 PM
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Because half the dicks I encounter are in the 7" range but the most commonly cited studies use faulty data to claim that they are as rare as 1 in 1000 I just dislike bad research and how people will believe that something is an absolute fact just because it was stated by a scientist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:30 PM
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If people go out of their to tell me that I'm wrong about everything and resort to personal insults they should also expect that I'll be asking them to explain why. It's just weird how many guys are convinced that I'm completely wrong, but none of them are able to use words, logic and facts to explain why I'm wrong. Also, you yourself are on a debate subreddit right now
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:22 PM
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"men are the more logical gender" r/BigDickProblems loves to cite faulty averages to tell themselves that average is 5.1 inches and that their 8 incher is a 1 in a million size. Whenever I point out the flaws in the studies and that 8" are actually as common as 1 in 100 I always get accused of being wrong about everything, but without anyone ever explaining why I'm wrong for which reasons. So I created a post asking explicitly about reasons why my points are wrong: https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:15 PM
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Even a bit less. https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdickproblems/comments/fipnmd/womens_length_preference_vs_mens_size_nbp/ Basically none preferred below average, a small percentage preferred average and the vast majority preferred something the top percentages
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:27 PM
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Just becasue someones not hot hung and rich doesnt mean hes ugly with a micropeen. Severe lack of nuance here. That's not what I'm saying... My point is that if people truly believe that those things don't matter then they also believe that someone on the positive end and someone on the negative end should have the same experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 11:26 AM
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That's weird, because my dick has helped me in several instances. Girls talk with each other and it happened several times that one only got interested in me after I've had sex with her friend. If it doesn't help, why else would they approach me asking if the rumors are true? If it doesn't help, why did several go for a test ride? If it doesn't help, why do size queens go crazy for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:29 PM
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anyway if you feel like answering the question i'm still interested. All my partners have stated that they like how tall I am and that they could never date a guy that's shorter than them. Most of my female friends have stated that they are attracted to tall guys. In all the relationships I know the guy is taller than the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:18 PM
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that i keep bringing variables into my answer. Why would you bring other variables into it instead of simply answering the question? Do you believe that a short guy will have just as much casual sex with just as attractive women, will have just as many potential partners, will have the same dating experiences, etc as a tall copy of him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:17 PM
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Askreddit, askredditafterdark, askmen, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:11 PM
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I sometimes read the women's magazines my girlfriend leaves laying around. Often times they contain rumors about which celeb is packing, talk about big dicks that appeared in media or other size related topics. And based on how often girls ask me if the rumors are true it's also obvious that girls do talk about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:58 PM
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Yeah I also think that this unfiltered honesty makes me seem more confident and often times spergy things I say get interpreted as jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:55 PM
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99% of the time women are being obtuse, and feign not understanding the question being asked by men "does height matter" - "given the choice between a funny and nice guy of average height and a tall guy that's an asshole I'd chose the average guy" Usually they answer "does personality matter" instead of answering who they would choose given the choice between a short guy that's nice and funny and a tall guy that's nice and funny
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:53 PM
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Given all else is equal do you think that a short guy will have the same sexual success as a tall guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:52 PM
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And half of them are slightly above average height at 5.8" Short guys all your problems are solved, as average height celebs with beautiful faces are popular with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:50 PM
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First, they are beautiful Secondly, because I'm annoyed with Redditors claiming that height, size and looks don't matter just to get upvoted
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:17 PM
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Or worded from the other direction: the dating pool for short guys is much smaller, because they have to look for the smallest 1% of women in order to be taller than them, while tall guys will be taller than 99% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:12 PM
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5.7" is average, and typically short would begin at 1 standard deviation below average which would be around 5.4"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:01 PM
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Well I do know for a fact that my mother is a vocal size queen. She's often joking about dad's big dick and how proud she is that I come after him or makes short dick jokes whenever she sees a guy with a huge truck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:58 PM
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No that wasn't the exact study I found, the one I saw was done by doctors because men lie about penis size in surveys The same article where I found this "source" also mentions the Veale meta-analysis which people often mistake as being about the UK simply because it was from the UK But even though this review contained 21 different medically-measured studies only one of them was from the UK (5.6" BPSFL but only measured men with dick problems that are known to decrease size), two from the US (S…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:56 PM
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Most hookups happen in the extended friend circle of people. Like at a house party where everyone kind of knows each other. Especially in university rumors about size spread around far and wide. In a club she feels my bulge when she grinds her butt against it. On Tinder every third or so girl will ask for dick pics before a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:48 PM
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Most woman aren't going to publicly risk being called a slut by stating their preferences on penis size and how often does that conversation seriously come up Even in real life most women that I know have stated their preferences during drunk nights out or when we hooked up. It's seemingly just here on Reddit where they try to act as if women have no physical preferences in order to gain upvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:38 PM
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Couldn't find it right now, but I'll keep looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:31 PM
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None of the guys you listed are short though. They are average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:25 PM
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Well I found one saying something different where doctors physically measured men's dicks and found the 3.5 inch to 5.8 inch. I found your "source" An earlier study from Target Map found Britain's average erect schlong is from 3.5-5.8 inches. A made-up map without any sources doesn't count as a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:13 PM
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Tall strong hung men dont look up studies for penis size. I do, because I'm a nerd that loves reading and it makes me feel good to know just how much bigger I am. Your No True Scotsman argument has no power here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:03 PM
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But that's the thing. As a nerdy asshole with aspergers I should struggle with women. But I'm tall, strong, hung and have a good income and have never been single for more than a month. I'm living proof of how shallow women can be, which is why I'm getting annoyed by the typical Reddit virtue signaling that those things don't matter to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:50 AM
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is that the reason why men get insulted with "you must have a small penis" or "small penis energy" by women? Women: lol he drives a truck he must have a tiny dick, Big Dick Energy, sing happily along to Don't Want No Short Dick Men, basically every hot female celeb has stated that they want big dicks, female media regularly contains plot points about cheating on a guy with a big dick, if a big dick is shown in female media it's all over social media, etc Also women: why do men think that size ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:46 AM
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Choosing extremes as an argument(poor, micropenised, ugly) is also a dumb point because most men aren't these things. If these things wouldn't matter it also wouldn't matter for extremes. And telling men that those things don't matter includes men that are part of those groups. Nobody cares about dick soze beyond average. The average preference is a top 10% penis and women are much more likely than men to look for Big Dick porn and it's one of their top categories. You are doing what I've said i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:40 AM
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That's weird because the only medically-measured study from the UK is Khan et al 2012 which found an average of 5.6" but only measured urology patients with dick problems like erectile dysfunction which has been shown to significantly decrease size. In my opinion there's simply not enough data for the UK
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:35 AM
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If you can make up for your ugly face by being kind and funny someone will find you attractive That's exactly the different communication styles that this thread is about When I say "it matters" I'm talking about general trends. That there's much more women that are attracted to tall guys than short guys. That there's a larger pool of potential partners. But you try to argue against it by bringing up outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:19 AM
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So it's just a complete random accident that beautiful, tall, hung men are more likely to engage in casual sex or to be in relationships than ugly, short guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:12 AM
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See, that's one of the points of this thread. On average women prefer big dicks, but you personally don't so you went with a generalized "size doesn't matter" statement instead of acknowledging that hung guys will have more sexual success on average than guys with micropenises.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:07 AM
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Did you also miss the point about height threshold? If you are too short it's basically hundred percent as you just don't make the cut for the other factors to even matter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:01 AM
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Even in this very thread there are people get say that these things do not matter because people are different and there's someone for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:46 AM
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I said that they matter. Not that they are the only things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:45 AM
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Further down I posted two articles about a study on women's preference on penis size, which also highlights this point. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26332467/ Women selected amongst 33 3D models. Women preferred a penis of slightly larger circumference and length for one-time (length = 6.4 inches/16.3 cm, circumference = 5.0 inches/12.7 cm) versus long-term (length = 6.3 inches/16.0 cm, circumference = 4.8 inches/12.2 cm) sexual partners. On average women prefer a top 10% penis, but most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:32 AM
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Men of various height/looks/size are with women of various height/looks/size. And what you also see are more good looking people in relationships than ugly people. And more good looking people having hookups. More good looking people getting glanced at by others. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:39 AM
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The stretch is why many women are attracted to big dicks. Vaginal orgasms are directly related to dick size. Girth brings the clitoris closer to the entry and the stretching feels extra nice. Length allows you to hit the deep spots at the very end of the vaginal canal. The A and P spots are named after the Anterior and Posterior Fornix and here's some more information on them and the importance of size: https://www.thrillist.com/sex-dating/nation/posterior-fornix-cul-de-sac-vs-g-spot-orgasm What…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:36 AM
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6'4, 10", rich, famous, exceptionally funny, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:32 AM
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I don't think they believe it either and just do it for upvotes, but there's so many people across Reddit that will flat out deny that any of those things matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:11 AM
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Or when they hide the truth with "a short guy that's funny and nice to me is much more attractive than a tall guy that treats me like shit" scenario. What about doing a fair comparison of a short guy that's funny and nice vs a tall guy that's funny and nice? All they've said so far is that personalities matters to them, but they just tried to avoid to say that height matters to them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:10 AM
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It's also interesting how different women respond in anonymous studies and when Reddit upvotes could be gained. Here's a study that showed that the taller the guy and the bigger the penis, the more attractive he will get rated, with the optimum height and size being 2 standards deviations above average https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/ Positive linear selection was detected for penis size, but the marginal increase in attractiveness eventually declined with greater penis size…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:06 AM
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That's exactly the different communication style that I'm talking about. When I say that height matters I'm talking about broad trends: there's a lot more women that are attracted to tall guys than those that are attracted to short guys When I say that size matters I'm talking about broad trends: there's a lot more women that are attracted to big dicks than those are okay with not feeling anything during sex But you just ignore all those broad trends in favor of pointing out outliers. If you rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 09:01 AM
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Sorry. I'm new to statistics 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:27 PM
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Also to note: stretched length has a skew of -0.17, which is pretty interesting as it shows that dicks that are X cm larger than average are more common than those that are X cm smaller than average, or in other words more men are above average than below
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 10:12 PM
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Thanks for the link. That's very interesting to see such a large scale study
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 09:49 PM
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Erect only had a little over 400 guys. BPSFL and BPEL are very robustly related and the error is like 0.1% Whereas the new study by Bac measured 14,500 men at the same institution showing a weak correlation to height. Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:49 PM
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Sure there's some issues, but still there's no studies that found no correlation between height and erect length, and plenty that found moderate to strong correlations. The values range from 0.2 to 0.6 The correlation between sex and height is 0.19, so even the studies with the lowest values for height and penis size already have a stronger correlation than sex and height, and I guess you wouldn't disagree that men are generally taller than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:14 PM
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The Veale Meta-Analysis of all available penis size studies found that height and length are consistently strongly correlated Consistent and strongest significant correlation was between flaccid stretched or erect length and height, which ranged from r = 0.2 to 0.6 There's simply much more studies that found moderate or strong correlations
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 08:07 PM
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Like who? I can show you measurement or comparison pics for any of them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 11:08 PM
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One main difference are ultra-wide angle lenses
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 09:04 PM
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Yeah no. It is. The positive correlation between gender and height is 0.18 but even the Turkish study which mentioned a weak correlation for penis size and height had a correlation factor of 0.2 If you can accept that men are generally taller than women than you should also be able to accept that taller men are usually packing more than shorter men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 08:46 PM
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The correlation between gender and height is even weaker yet no one has a problem if you state that men are generally taller than women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 08:35 PM
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Even a weak correlation still means that there's a connection
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 07:51 PM
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Who watches monster cock porn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 07:00 PM
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For you, because you are a size queen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:42 PM
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A woman would prefer struggling to fuck too big a dick than struggling to feel a too small one. 21% of women report having left a partner for being too small, but only 7% for being too large
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:35 PM
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If you don't explicitly look for big ones you might stumble upon several 5 or 6 inchers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:32 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/lwwwl6/penis_size_matters_as_much_as_height_but_only_for/gpk8599?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:30 PM
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Also, the excessive use of ultra-wide angle lenses in combination with girls that are legally midgets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:29 PM
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This doesn’t mean all women only like monster cocks tho https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0133079 In this study they gave women 3D models to pick from and: on average women perceived 5.7 x 4.5 to be average on average women prefer a 6.4 x 5 cock for casual sex This also aligns with dildo sales and preferences, where the average of the most popular ones has 6.3 insertable length and 4.8 girth Guys think that women prefer 8x6 or bigger monsters, while in reality wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:20 PM
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That was the Prause et al study https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0133079 They gave them 3D models to pick from and: on average women perceived 5.7 x 4.5 to be average on average women prefer a 6.4 x 5 cock for casual sex and slightly smaller for long term 6.4 inch NBP is a top 5% penis according to the Western average while 5 inch girth is top 25%, in combination it's a top 10% dick This also aligns with dildo sales and preferences, where the average of the most …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:14 PM
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That's not average for porn though, that's average for Big Dick or Interracial porn. There's lots of porn stars with like 6 inchers that appear outside of these niches.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 06:04 PM
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r/measuredpornstars or this NSFW album Criss Strokes, who's one of the biggest white guys in porn, has been measured several times at around 7 inches. Jason Luv, who's one of the big black guys from Blacked, has been measured at 7 inches as well Danny D, who's the biggest white guy in porn, is 8 inches Dredd who is one of the absolutely biggest black cocks in porn has been measured at 8.5 inches In porn 7 is big, 8 is huge and 9 is basically non-existent, even Mandingo is less than 9 and he's li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:57 PM
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My point stands that men have no way of showing off their dick size Grey sweatpants
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:52 PM
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RP applies to the modern meat market. Not to people from the past who still got married en masse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:46 PM
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They don't like unsolicited dick pics, but if you are already flirting on tinder many will outright ask for dick pics. The lack of consent is the problem. Not sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:45 PM
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Even in porn 7 is big, so obviously you don't have to be 8. Even many BBC porn stars are below 8 inches and only a few select ones are 8-8.5
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:39 PM
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But is it destroying the human race, or is it just preventing it from devolving to hobbits? From a biological standpoint it makes sense to want tall and strong offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:31 PM
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Actually several studies found strong correlations. Tall guys are three times more likely to have a big cock while short guys are three times more likely to have small dick https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdickproblems/comments/lw9sqe/height_and_penis_size_tall_guys_are_three_times/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:22 PM
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Red pill men: women on tinder ask for dick pics to weed out small ones Blue pill women: i never cared for a man's dick so this is bullshit It's like one side is using personal preferences to debunk the personal experiences of the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:21 PM
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It's different for the generation that grew up with mobile phones, tik tok and constant access to porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:17 PM
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All she wants in that situation is a dildo that happens to be attached to someone. That's basically what most men want
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:15 PM
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Half of these studies are useless when the methodology is "we told these women that this man was 5'7" and his penis was 9" then asked them to rate their desire to have sex with him. Why do you have to invent strawmen just to debunk them? This study did no such basic errors
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 04:14 PM
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