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I have certainly seen the argument being made on relationship subs here on reddit. It's far from universal and in real life it doesn't pan out. So I disagree that this is a standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 08:54 AM
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Are we talking of sexual attraction or long term mate choice? These have overlap but are not always the same. I would say that women are more likely to weight sexual attraction lower, when they are looking for a long term partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:07 PM
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Women get quite horny once a month. Which means that once a month, for the women that are young and frequent bars and clubs, they are more likely to be able to take someone home if they feel like it. Most dudes will almost never get this chance. So it is not hard to assume that the average woman end up having more partners in their youth as compared to the average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 08:51 AM
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I agree, at the same time an amazing personal connection is not necessarily easily attainable either. But the result of that is strong romantic feelings and lots of time spent together having fun. But for physical affection, physical attraction reigns supreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 11:35 PM
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Well, I am not thinking of online dating. But having dated a bunch over 20 years ago. It was obvious how much looks mattered to women. The good looking men would pull on dance floors, without even saying a word to the woman. Just a look was enough and off they went. I even have had this happen to men a fair few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:00 PM
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Very good point. And even if they meet a guy that ticks all the personality boxes and passes the looks threshold, he will still get less sexual attention/physical appreciation than the ex that was better looking with a personality that was less compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:56 PM
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What about all the women that snog men on the dance floor of a club, without ever exchanging a hi or a hello? I have pulled women a fair few times like this, what happened there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:49 PM
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Many women put more emphasis on romantic attraction than sexual in their relationships. Men are more likely to have these feelings overlap. So when you say that you felt a really strong connection, the sexual attraction is still lower than with the more attractive dude. It's just less important to many women. Many men however feel that they are loved less when the sexual attraction is lower. So they want to have someone that is really sexually attracted to them. I not saying anyone is wrong, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:44 PM
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Attraction gap relationships also have a power imbalance. One person knowing they have a ton of options, and the other would not get another relationship so easily creates quite the imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:04 PM
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Well, I have ugly cried in front of wife, more than once. Almost always leads to sex. I have done the biggest no, no's in this thread and my relationship has not lost it's intimacy. We have been together for 21 years and never had a dead bedroom period or anything like that. On the other hand, wife is a lot less emotionally vulnerable, she suppresses her emotions far more. Opposites attract I guess. I think she views me being so open as a strength, rather than a weakness. At the same time, she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:54 AM
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Won't work, since you just let on that you have sadness and shame. She doesn't want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 08:27 AM
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Had sex talk with wife. We were talking about improving our sexy times. She specifically asked if I could jackhammer more and for longer. I prefer to go a bit slower myself. Stop using absolutes. Generalities are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 09:45 PM
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Its the women not wanting them, that was the point. That dumb women are not interested in highly intelligent men. So only very intelligent women will want to date the very intelligent guy. Hence he has less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 02:30 PM
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If you’re too much shorter than her Completely goes against the idea that women want a guy much taller than them. Because if you are right, they should date any guy either not too much shorter or able to carry her body weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:16 PM
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I have picked up girl taller than me and shagged her. I don't know where height is coming into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 02:37 PM
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Tall men cannot fly. Add to positions, being the same leg length really helps in shagging face to face standing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 12:25 PM
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That they are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:10 AM
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Study from 1966 and the conclusion was that personality counted for very little when everyone wanted the hot guy at the end of the dancing. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-11095-001 Remember seeing a similar study done in 1957 as well. Cannot find it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 02:44 PM
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Yet I am one of those who was bullied by white people, had horrible white teachers, and just generally acted shit towards me. And I still don't think it's okay for me to feel animosity towards white people as a whole. And at this point in my life, if I did. I would have to feel this way about my children as they are white too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:35 PM
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It's like the "all lives matter". When issues of African Americans is being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:39 PM
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Hence the equivalence in which women are saying all men are undateable because they are all bad. Is misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:33 PM
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Are these the same people that Hitler tried to exterminate in gas chambers and Germany never had to pay any reparations to them, because only Israelis deserved reparations. Then all the countries where these people ended up, systematically discriminated them, and discriminate them to this day? I wonder where this behavior comes from? Completely perplexing./s And before you come in with the, they cause their own misery. No they don't. The behavior towards them is awful. There are a handful of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:09 PM
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And it would be racist if one denies being in an intimate relationship with a whole race of people, because they are all a bunch of thugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:56 PM
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I have to stay on the boat if there are not enough spaces on the life boat to go around. That's it, I am not valuable enough to save first. I have known this since I was a teen, that my life holds no value and every woman on earth is considered more valuable than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 06:54 PM
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No, thank you. A big part of sex with my partner is feeling like they want me. Otherwise I could just have a wank.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:36 PM
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We are generally talking about an extreme lack of sex. Most of the dead bedroom sub is not men complaining about only getting it once a week or even 2-3 times a week. Most of them are complaining about less than a once a month. And a large majority are complaining about it being completely dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:35 PM
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This is certainly not true. I am a dude that is very attracted to his wife, and even horny a lot of the time. But having sex twice a day is just inconvenient. I literally would not have time to do anything else for myself, if I had sex twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:54 PM
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But remember, he looks beautiful to her because of his "personality" for the honeymoon period and then he makes one silly mistake and all the personality fall to the way side.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:52 PM
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Plenty of women are missing out too, but they receive far more sympathy and the low libido man is expected to do everything in his power to fix the problem. The whole thread is about the inconsistency in how the sexes are treated for the same behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:49 PM
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Yes 2-3 times is plenty for most men, we are literally talking about men that get pity sex once a month or some even twice a year. Then there are a bunch of them that have gone sexless for years. I really hope nobody here is arguing that 2-3 times a week is a low libido partner. As long as she is having enthusiastic sex of course. Pity sex will make a relationship tank, no matter how frequent it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:47 PM
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Men need to realize sex isn’t more important than their families/kids. Everyone needs to change their priorities. Masturbating should be enough for men to scratch the itch in between sex. As long as they aren’t in dead bedroom situations, they should learn to live with what they have imo. But if they can’t, then end the Men do not use masturbation as a sub for sex. Sex with their partner is how men feel connected to them. In fact when this dies out, so does some of the love they feel for their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:44 PM
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No they aren't, physical attraction is by far the most important aspect in attraction. Any study that does a survey and comes to this conclusion, is not looking at what people do, but what they say. When studies have been done in which behavior is observed, physical attraction slays all personality characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 03:46 PM
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make me feel insecure. If that is true, those two should make you feel insecure too. Listing A list celebs as an alternative choice is not a good example. Also studies have shown that sexual attractiveness is most heavily predicated by physical attraction. Nothing else even comes close. Yet every tom dick and harry tries to argue that this isn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:48 AM
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I’m the hottest thing to ever walk planet earth You will not feel like this about him and he will know. That is the point. Women pick based on other criteria, but cannot bring this same feeling to reciprocate in the relationship and it shows. Attraction is obviously based on more than looks, but looks brings with it a certain type of behavior, that is rarely reciprocated in its absence. This is why men should not date a girl hotter than himself. She will never appreciate him like that. You all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 08:33 AM
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We have no idea what the previous relationship was like and how the two parties showed up in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:57 PM
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Or your behavior is different in this relationship then the last one? Cognitive dissonance is a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:56 PM
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But you wouldn't be able to reciprocate his attraction for you and that can hurt a relationship long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:52 PM
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Studies on dual mating hypothesis have not been replicated, in fact some studies have shown no effect on women. But resistance to mate guarding attempts have been shown, so women that consider themselves the more attractive of the couple, are more likely to resist their partners attempts at mate guarding and are usually more receptive to flirting from other men. But you can certainly increase your mate value in your partners eyes, by having other attractive qualities and not acting like you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:48 PM
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As a South Asian guy married to a white woman. People from my own culture usually tell me I'm attractive. White people have sometimes gone out of their way to tell us we are mismatched. They tell my wife that she could "get any man she wants". Her own aunt, first time I met her. Pointed to another guy in the restaurant we were at and reminded her what an actual attractive man looks like. I would constantly get told that I was really lucky, and even had someone in ear shot say, "how does an ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:44 PM
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A lot of dumb chads get to experience this as well, they are extracted for sex and then dumped. Knew plenty of girls that had a fling with a guy they had no intention of dating long term. Because he was a good lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:40 PM
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Average to below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:13 AM
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Just because they date you doesn't mean they find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:00 AM
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When most guys say get muscular, nobody is telling the guy to look like the bodybuilder guy. It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to look lean and fit, with a bit of definition. 2-3 years of solid lifting and spot on diet. The bodybuilder look requires steroids. Some might achieve it naturally, but they will still never get as big. Also, it will take them a decade of dedication. So it is akin to the make-up analogy because most women think that guys who look lean and fit aren't also gym ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 08:51 AM
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So slightly different take, but I remember reading that women like men around the same intelligence as themselves but if the gap gets too high or low they are turned off. Given this distribution https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Gaussian-distribution-of-IQ-of-men-s-162-and-women-s-132_fig1_344751288 You would imagine that the most intelligent men find it hard to find "intelligence matched" women and the competition between these men gets higher, with less women available at or near their IQ. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:26 PM
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I do nice things for them and they do nice things for me. That's what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:53 PM
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You are talking about politeness, not niceness. Most people are polite without expecting anything in return. Being nice without expectation is only done as charity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:15 PM
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Good point. For me, I just want my partner to think I'm hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:46 AM
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Doesn't mean that they get give the women the "tingles". Women want these guys for long term relationships and shoot their shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:57 PM
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Characters/ money/ social status. Looks is what gets their engine revving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:32 PM
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This is for the romantic/friendship part of the relationship. But they are starfishing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:24 PM
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Sorry, I would never wish this on my greatest enemy. Women do this sometimes. The whole, his "looks grew on me bullshit." And I feel sorry for every single one of those guys. There is nothing wrong with finding your looksmatch and appreciating him. But women who say a personality made up for his looks, I always feel sorry for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:20 PM
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If somebody is 100% confident with everything. They lack self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:33 AM
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Nobody is confident with everything 100% of the time. And if they are. That is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:15 PM
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Question is, do these book sell or do they tank? Anybody can write a book. Not every book sells.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:39 PM
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There are countless men out there that have to wine and dine their partners, initiate in exact ways and get sex going between them. They call this reactive desire. I think a lot of these men wonder what it is like to be a 9 with the same woman. Would the desire still be reactive? A lot of these men know deep down that they are pretty average looking. I think a better study could be done to survey how the men report being sexually pursued in their relationships. Then independently rating the phot…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:31 PM
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You make some very good points, and I think much of this is very valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:16 PM
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So when s guy cat calls you. You set a boundary, or shake your head and move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:15 PM
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I have received plenty of compliments about a nice shirt or nice get up from women without ever assuming interest. Anything more, like a whistle or oh heyy. Especially when we don't know each other at all and I find that to be leading me on or inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:54 PM
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Are we talking of a singular woman? Because I have at least one anecdotal example and this girl genuinely only dates short guys. Like she is very hot and also short herself. And every single boyfriend bar one has been also short. Taller than her, but we are talking all were 5'7 and below. She dated one tall guy once and broke up with him 3 weeks later because she didn't find him attractive. She is 5'2 by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:08 PM
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Depends on how drunk we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:10 AM
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Again, something I've failed to see in reality but gets discussed daily here. If said husband never receives a compliment on his looks and she is a passionless pillow princess in bed. Then her calling spouse "husband material" is the same back handed compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:14 AM
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There are women that will pull a man at a club without a word being spoken. How does that happen if in these cases physical attraction isnt equal to sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:47 PM
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Then there are women that prefer that men act like this and that is what gets their engine revving. They like the fact that they could connect on this level before any sexual escelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:45 PM
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o many quirks, ticks, characteristics and traits, and flaws that will take away from the initial Spark for a normal to highly functioning adult. But I do KNOW that people WILL ALSO say "No spark, not enough chemistry and not feeling it" INSTEAD of saying 'I didn't find you sexually attractive.' I don't think it's absolute, however. I think people define these terms differently, because there is no consensus. So there is some confusion when they are talking in these terms. Even within the same ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:43 PM
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Not true. Some men feel exactly the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:28 PM
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Point is, some of us men felt this from the ager of 16. We didn't have to get older to feel like this. But I will admit it took a particular type of personality to turn me off back then. As long as you came across as a person I could converse with and was attractive enough. It was fine. Today, it takes more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:26 PM
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Did the same thing as a short guy, but you have to bring something to the club that would attract women. Know how to dress and dance. An attractive face helps. Have some confidence to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:18 PM
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I don't want to be with women that are turned on by red pilled men. Those women are a turn off to me. I want a woman that enjoys my feminine side too. There are plenty of these women around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:14 PM
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Women have far more disgust sensitivity than men. https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/Why-Are-Women-More-Easily-Disgusted-than-Men.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 10:47 AM
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This has happened to me with every girlfriend I have ever had. Most of them have looked surprised and told me to not listen. Thankfully I did not date someone that would laugh at me with the assholes. I dated an older lady once and something similar happened. she explained how much racism was at play in these comments and how I was actually good looking. In any case, even if you disliked this person, I still think that two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:52 PM
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No, your face is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:56 AM
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Are you from Scandinavia?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:53 AM
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You are better looking than you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:22 AM
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That wasn't the premise, just the male partner realising he has more mate value than he first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:20 AM
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Did the girl ditch you the next day, or did you date them for a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:56 AM
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I did. Found no other pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:23 AM
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Value judgement, nothing immoral about keeping your thoughts to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:23 AM
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Why? As long as it is consensual. Why not have an experience while waiting to meet your looksmatch?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:14 AM
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Think so, I did go bald and slightly chunky, but I have spent the last few years losing it all and building muscle. So now I have my dream body and my nice jawline back. I got myself some hair too. Wanted to pay back to the wife that kept her slim thick figure this entire time we have been together. The looks and comments I have gotten from men all these years. Like I was some goblin with an attractive woman. Yet my exes all were as pretty as her, so fuck them. I know we are looksmatched.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:12 AM
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Depends on how good looking the stranger is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:06 AM
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An actual 7 could still struggle to think he was attractive, not have confidence, and not get approached by a lot of women. Making him feel like a 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:05 AM
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This is my exact story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:03 AM
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The unfortunate consequence is that you never realise that your wife thinks you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:58 PM
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As a brown man myself, who spent his youth being told I was ugly be white men and who enjoyed the company and whistles of plenty of women. I absolutely hate assholes like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:57 PM
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I say if this is the reality, then fuck and ghost them. That is the market, after all. If women want to keep men, better get in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:51 PM
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He does not have a below average face, fuck off and stop putting people down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:48 PM
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So beauty is subjective, but an ugly man should think of himself as ugly and know his place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:41 PM
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Never did grow after that, stuck at 5'7, but the women did started flocking for a short while at the age of 20. Then I settled down at 21 so who knows how things wouldv'e gone. But I did get hit on until my late 20s and then things slowed down, because I stopped hanging around single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:15 PM
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I'm just under 5'7. I got approached a decent bit when I was younger. I was athletic looking back then, and I'm no chad either. There were definitely women that wouldn't date me or on the fence. But I have had the odd instances of women whistling, pinching ass, the old extended hello, etc. Most approaches would be just an introduction, though. Again, this was all very inconsistent, so height might have been a big factor, I always thought it was race though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:52 AM
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Cup size and body fat go a bit hand in hand. It's not always an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:44 AM
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Nobody approached me at the age of 16, at 5'6 and by the time I was 18 and 5'7, things changed, and I started getting approached a lot. Like night and day. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:41 AM
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Women are picker than men on weight as well, not just height. It's not like women are happy to date a fat dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:12 AM
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We are not chimps, they mate very differently. Some of your points are valid. But chimps have very different preferences in mate choice compared with humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:37 PM
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There is about a 10 % overlap. So that is quite a bit actually, but the gap is pretty drastic. It just means the strongest 10% of women are stronger than the weakest 10% of men. and some of these men are weak due to disabilities. I am a regular gym goer and some women are pretty strong. They are a very rare breed however. The average inactive tall woman hos no chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:31 PM
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Women can demand how their partner dresses or what part of his body he has to shave. Usually punishing him not conseding to her choice by withholding love, affection or sex. For example, not kissing him until he shaves his face, or not having sex with him unless he shaves his body hair. This is considered normal and okay to do. Most men in this situation oblige as it is culturally acceptable. Men that make any demands like this are considered controlling and mysoginists. And the woman is immedia…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:59 AM
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Women that date men without the so called spark, are immensily unfair to their partner. He feels it, knows it and never gets to confirm it. They take away a chance for their partner to experience something that he deeply desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:48 AM
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To be honest, you might be right, while my anecdotal experience has been mixed. And as a guy that is 5'7. I have mostly dated girl around 5'2 and a couple above 5'10. For me it was all the girls around 5'4-5'8 that commented on my height. The tall girls did too. Thinking I would not be able to carry them, they were stronger, etc. Just another perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:43 AM
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The eye thing is a very narrow Hollywood take. Big almond doe eyes in men can look very attractive to women. Especially in other cultures. I am such a specimen and have heard women talking about my attractive eyes my whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:29 PM
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That just not true. 3-4 years of gym does not get you 80% of that physique. Most actors have a pump going between takes. That is impossible to replicate and would just look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:17 PM
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I don't feel that about women either. I feel interested, but not sexually aroused, until there is an interaction. As a man. I think there might be a bigger overlap on this one. Many more women fuck the male strippers than the other way around. I once had a soon to be bride wanting to fuck me 5 min into hitting on me at a club, because her fiance was ugly and she wanted to fuck an attractive man before she got married. That gave me the biggest ick. And I had not shagged for months.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:10 PM
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It was a turn of phrase. Good god.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 09:05 PM
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A bunch are, maybe even disproportionate. But that vast majority are still women. I know because I have hired them from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 10:38 AM
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30 is the start of the drop off. 32 is when they have kids- at 40 the transformation is complete. This is coming from a 43 year old father of 2. All the other parents are my age ish. We all have young children. The one 28 year old woman with kids is the exeption, not the rule. And everyone is overweight and boring as fuck. Chad is definitely not interested in these women, although the odd guy looks like chad with a massive beer gut and depression kicking in. Me and wife really do look like the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:39 PM
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Then why are all the goddamn interior and clothes designers women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:57 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2009/oct/04/uk-female-child-sex-offenders seems like women are catching up in this arena too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:56 PM
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They are shooting, not settling down with them, so rather than admit they found their looksmatch, it's a nice story to protect one's own ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 08:01 PM
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Yeah, the author of that paper has come out and said that he doesn't agree with it anymore, because his findings have not easily been replicated. But there does seem to still be some data to suggest that hormones can effect what type of man women find attractive. Just look at the studies done on women that take hormonal birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:46 PM
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Men do too, the countless hrs 15 year olds spend infront of the mirror putting in hair gel. Seriously, men are just not very good at it, but they intuitively know that it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:43 PM
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Women were saying looks matter the most when I was 20 at uni. It's only these weirdos on reddit that seem to talk about how it's personality that counts first. I would bet most are dating their looksmatch and were not initially attracted to him. Personality is important when there are a lot of 5s and 4s to choose from
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:40 PM
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I think al lot of women who are 5s are the ones that say they did not find their 5 partner physically attractive but he one her over with personality. They know they can't get better, but they also know that he isn't that attractive, so they "settle" for the best they can get. Then they claim they are not shollow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:35 PM
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I am lean. Hence all the comments. But crossculturally different things are considered attractive. Leaness is valued far higher in westernised societies. And by extension the newer generations in the east too. But people that grew up in scarcity find a guy that can survive the winter attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 08:54 PM
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This is very cultural. As someone that has fluctuated between 12% - 20% and isn't white. Western influenced women find my face attractive at 15% and below. Non western influenced women (aunts), say, "what happened to your beautiful face". You look sick. They prefer my face at 20% body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 02:19 PM
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All these youtubers are a bunch of grifters, whose real lives are far removed from what they want to project. Young men should really take what they say with a pinch of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:52 AM
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Nerds do really well with nerdets. Especially the confident and good looking ones. There is a lot of casual sex among nerds in their university years. Thats because they finally have larger pool to choose from. It is still the better looking nerds that have sex with most of the nerdets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:23 PM
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Peacocking works very well into your late teens, even very early 20s, with diminishing returns past that age. Saw plenty of guys get laid just for being loud and acting like idiots. But even at that age, just being able to have decent conversations easily in groups of new people and generally coming across as well put together really made a huge difference. There is the type of confidence that comes with knowledge of a specific topic or situation, which is fine but not universally applicable and…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 09:20 PM
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Yeah. Most of my male friends care about what their long term partner is going to do for their career. It's called assortive mating and men want to date women that are of the same social class as them, most of the time. A guy with a PhD does not want to marry the girl that works as a waitress unless he has very few options. He wants another intelligent woman with a decent education. But on the other hand, i would say that men generally are more willing to accept a woman that isn't very ambitious…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:24 AM
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I disagree with your take, most of these things are basic life skills that both genders should absolutely have. Where it does seem to apply is when men have to do traditional masculine tasks around the house. Like laying a new floor, hanging up shelves, building the furniture, changing oil or a tyre. Wiring a lamp. Repairing hole in wall. Install a new door. Shit like this is suddenly a man's job and not basic life skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 12:09 AM
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Completely disagree, some of the women with the flattest chests have gorgeous boyfriends. And not all women that have large chests do well with good looking men either. Also chest size I somewhat correlated with overall body fat, so there are diminishing returns to increasing chest size, for most women. Some of the hottest girls I dated were small chested, and when I dated girls for breast size, they were usually a bit overweight. Rare to find a girl with both. After much experience I now prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 11:30 AM
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Wow, comprehension isn't your strong suit. I just recounted how the women I went on dates with bought me drinks and I'm the predator?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:03 PM
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Women are equally as lacking in more than one of the areas that you mentioned. These perfect human specimens that you guys paint are nowhere to be found. Just find people that are kind, attractive to you and somewhat tolerable for the things that they lack. Then make the best of it. Otherwise good luck being miserable in your search for Mr or Ms perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:52 PM
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Most women here in the UK know full well what they are getting into. They are partaking on equal footing. If it wasn't for alcohol, me and my wife would never have gotten together. She has never dated anyone without drinking on the first date. She plied me with booze on the first night we met, and kept buying shots and rounds. It is just a normal part of the culture. By your account, I could have gone to the police and called rape. They would have laughed me out of the station. This whole idea t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:48 PM
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It's ridiculous to say smoking isn't as choice or that we should say that smokers are not responsible for their choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:06 PM
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Nah, not everywhere is as bad as th US that's for sure, but I live in Scandinavia and even here it is very hit and miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:19 PM
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Underweight as in official bmi or just skinny? I personally like skinny women with fat in the right places.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:17 PM
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Fair what people choose to do or not is very individual, I didn't want kids til I was 30 and then I suddenly got very broody, wife did too so we went for it. This is after 10 years of saying never. Don't know if the urge is biological or cultural, but I have met a lot of couples with kids that get broody in their 30s too, so maybe it is biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:15 PM
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Well I slightly disagree, but it is true that it isn't easy. But if we are specifically talking about weight loss, then it is mostly about putting the fork down. If we are talking about overall fitness and shape, then yes some physical activity is required. I live in a household with kids that manages to do this for both of us, and it comes down to teamwork and yes prioritising excersise over other hobbies, like netflix. The math doesnt math so easily is absolutely true, but it is possible for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:29 PM
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Yep, I don't get the point these people are making, most of the world is out of shape, married or not. People sart putting on weight at the age of 18 and it shows badly by there mid to late 20s. If they get married in between, so what? The exception however is women that have babies, that does make a difference, and in some cases it is not reversible without surgery, which again no husband/father has the right to expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:23 PM
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I get that that is a preference of yours, I like both to be honest, they each have their own charm. But not really into women with rolls. Yet when my wife a our babies, it was not something that I was going to feel weird about, she just had kids and it is what it is. If my attraction to her boils down to how one body part looks then it is not a relationship I should be in. She now does have a flat stomach, but it is not done by doing tons of crunches, thats for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:18 PM
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Bullshit. AB workouts have nothing to do with flat stomach, it is purlely down to diet. All calories are not equal in the sense that some foods are easily digestible so that 300ckal of sugar will go right in, wherea 300ckal of broccoli will have a smaller percentage of its calories absorbed. But other than that calories in vs calories out is somewhat true. For pregnancy pouch however it depends on the person, they will most likely have loose skin or stretch marks, and paybe also diastasis recti.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 05:14 PM
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Well. I was giving an example. At home we actually share the work 50/50. So wife helped install all the flooring, she helped painting walls. Helps out when a have to change a lamp, hang curtain rail, install shelves, build IKea shit, etc. Same with changing winter tyres and so forth. Obviously all is never equal and I have some tasks and she has others, but if we are at home together and something needs doing we do it together to save time. Just being in tune with wanting to keep the house runni…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 07:19 PM
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Get up in the morning 6 am, get the kids up get youself and them ready. 7am, prep lunch boxes (if we do this in the evening it doesn't taste right and kids wont eat). Serve breakfast. 7.30 - 7.45 am out of house if no tantrum. Drive kids to daycare/school wife to bus stop. 8.30 get into work. Work till 16.30 rush back to daycare to pick up before 17.00. make dinner and feed the kids. time is 19.00 when kids are fed and homework is done. 19.30 get first kid ready for bed. 20.30 start asking other…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 02:21 PM
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Or do what I mentioned above and you have a wife that stays in shape along with you and you both feel that it is a priority for you both. Again it comes at the cost of some things. I do not have time to binge watch tv series and some other hobbies have to take a back seat. If I want to go skiing in the winter I have to drop leg day a go ski for a couple of hrs instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 02:02 PM
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As someone with young kids who manages this, it does take a lot of effort to make sure that we both have the time to work out 3 times a week. I realised very early on that if I wanted a fit wife, I have to make sure she feels zero guilt in going to the gym 3 times a week. So the time she spends at the gym, I spend cooking, cleaning and getting helping out with the homework and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 12:51 PM
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She is right. Are you actually married with kids? Gym 5 times a week is impossible if you are married with kids and want your wife to do the same. I am part of a rare couple our age that actually make time for the gym with kids in tow. I have to be a very willing partner to make this work. We go to the gym on alternate days. The other half does the entire evenings worth of chores. Cooking, cleaning, homework, etc. The one at the gym gets to train for 2hrs ish after work including a shower, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 11:55 AM
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Depends, I have come across a lot a women that want all the chores they do to be shared 50/50 and then turn around and say they don't want to do any DIY, car work, etc. because that is a mans job. Things actually have to be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 11:41 AM
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Not true at all. When I was in uni, first year in Hall. The cleaning lady(for common areas only), hoovered my room and did my dishes. I mainly shared the flat with other girls. She never did any of that for them. I benefited out of something? Horniness or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 05:50 PM
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OK fair enough. People don't find the people they date to be hot. Guess I'm just lucky that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 07:21 PM
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Not really. The prompt says to list what is a hot man for you. Are you saying that most people don't find the people they are dating to be hot? It does not say ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:16 AM
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Yep. Height is just one facet of attraction. It's like I was into Pamela Anderson when I was 15. But at 20, I realised dating someone like that would be a nightmare. The girl next door kind of look is far more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 12:47 AM
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People are mostly just mentioning who their celebrity crush is. Most people can't date people that look like their ideal. We all have to find the best we can get. A 6 might date a couple of 7s and realise she likes the 5 more. But usually she will end up with another 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:49 PM
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Body absolutely changes with lighting. My abs right now don't show in the bedroom, but florescent lights in the bathroom. Bam I've got a six pack. Only cause its bulking season. Summer and I'm good in the bedroom too. 😄 Status can change too, just not as fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:42 PM
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My wife agrees with you. She never wanted a tall guy and mostly prefers the 5'5-5'8 range as she is 5'2. Anything above just makes her feel odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 11:37 PM
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That's true. I wasn't including weights, but plenty people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 10:08 AM
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Calisthenics has a pretty steep progressive overload component. Either with harder variations or simply more reps. Again average natural builders can only get so far either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 01:11 AM
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Yeah people think huge roid heads are muscly and everyone else is just lean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 11:37 PM
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not a chadlet at all. but definetly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:50 PM
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calisthenics builds a lot of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:48 PM
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You are right. Many short girls like a slightly taller dude. Some do want a tree. But a well. I have dated tall girls too. So there you go. My wife is genuilnly put off by tall men. Has only dated short men. I have met all her exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 08:02 PM
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Women mistake very muscular with massive roid heads. A few years in the gym make you fill out very well without looking like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:59 PM
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I'm 5'6 wide shoulders with narrow waist. Even before I started to hit the gym, women found me attractive. Have had compliments about my body. And after building muscle, most women think that I am the strongest dude around, generally. The article didn't really show any specifics for what the numbers where. My wife, very attractive I might add, has always menioned my body shape as something that she finds very attractive. I get that my experiances are anecdotal, but whatever. I still believe my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 07:58 PM
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This happened to me in my relationship, then out of nowhere she was going on a night out without me and got dressed to the nines. I decided to let my feelings on the matter known and explained how that would make me feel. Shes maintained her standards ever since. Although I dont expect her to make an effort every day. Just if we are going out or being intimate. I keep my end of the bargain up to. So Im no hyprcrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:04 PM
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Ill agree with this, we have sex once a week after 20 years together. And it is for the purpose of quality over qauntity. We spend on average 5-6 hrs so the session is long. Includes drinking, flirting, dancing, talking, foreplay, sex and any thing else we feel like. Once a week of this and we are sexed out, and prefer to do other couples stuff on weekend evenings. Sometimes well have a quicky but the main event is once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 07:59 PM
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That was an example. Point was that lesbians can pick and choose. My experience from watching lesbian sex is in person. Have had regular threesomes with bisexual partners. Preferences are as varied as there are possibilities. Goes from sensual touch, clitoral only, to rough play, some women want their cheeks clapped and yes Dildos of any preferred size can be chosen. Again preffered size, not necessarily massive. Men can't change their size, big or small. Could they do better yes. But will strug…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:30 PM
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You are giving me your anecdotal experience, I am explaining why overall there might be higher numbers of orgasm in lesbian sex. Since I assumed women are different than one another and all are not like you, my explanation covered the idea that most bases can be covered through lesbian sex. Something not necessarily as easily done with men, as their insecurities might come into play. Also from my experience lesbian sex is more about taking turns pleasuring each other while hetero sex the act fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 08:00 PM
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Because they can use any toy that they feel like. If they only come from clitoral that is on. If only a monster penis works, well that is no problem. No ego is bruised. Its not because they only do oral. I that is what you are claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:14 PM
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Been approached by women before. The ones that grab your ass and expect you to smile at them. I shudder. And the ones that just hover and hope you'll start wooing them. But not all are bad. I remember one cute girl that walked straight up to me, shook my hand and introduced herself. That is how it should work. Oh, then there was the girl that sat down next to me and asked me to fuck her as she was getting married in couple of weeks. Glad I didn't. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 05:36 PM
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What did he look like when they got together?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 10:01 AM
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Don't know, I am much older now and off the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 09:00 AM
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Personality doesn't shine when your just sat there or in a club dancing. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 07:31 AM
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I've spent my life time being called attractive by women and ugly by men. Have literally heard men say, "why is she with him"? In every relationship I have ever had. And no it isn't my personality when the hot girl comes over and introduces herself while my short ass is sat in the chair daydreaming. Or when she moves across the floor to dance with me in a noisy club. Just my own anecdotal experience. I don't subscribe to any pills either and think for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 05:44 PM
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my now wife definitely did this. I asked her 2 weeks after we first started hooking up if she would be my girlfriend/exclusive and she said "I thought we already were". Oddly enough I had been on 2 other dates in those weeks. luckily I was so into her that I was very distant on those dates. She never new the concept of exclusive or not exclusive and she was the one with more dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:54 AM
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You might just think that one is more attractive than the other based on your own ideas of what you find or think is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:33 AM
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As a short guy I have never dated a overweight girl in my life. Never had a problem with dating either. Always new girls liked taller men, but it never fazed me. And I got plenty of attention from women. Was the wrong ethnicity as well. Not super attractive either, but experience has thought me that I must be above average. Other attractive traits (body) that people forget are not just height, but body shape and proportions. I have wide shoulders and narrow waist. Was naturally very athletic loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:22 AM
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Not really no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:38 PM
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I think I am just being realistic. Honestly attraction does fade somewhat. Does not mean that the relationship is worse or that romantic attraction fades. Just that we are biologically/culturally tuned to find certain traits more attractive. I think a lot of people use cognitive dissonance to tell themselves they didn't feel hornier with the more attractive ex with the beautiful face, body and big dick. Even if romantic attraction is stronger with the next partner. We will blissfully tell oursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:05 PM
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There would be a loss in attraction(physical). But also an acceptance that life takes funny turn. And we would continue to do the best for us out of the situation we found ourselves in. Our relationship is also based on much more than physical attraction, we have gone through ups and downs. I definitely didn't choose her solely on physical attraction, but it certainly was part of what drew me to her. We already expect to get old. We have talked about it. It will happen and we will enjoy life tog…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:47 AM
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Ofcourse, me and my wife got together when we were very young. Yes I played sports, but she was a typical non sporty girl. But as we went past 30, we realised that we didn't want that to happen to us. Things didn't always work out perfectly, especially when the kids were very young, but we kept at it. Also diet is the key to not getting overweight. Most people slack on their diet, we don't. We used lockdown to our advantage and stayed in really good shape, instead of binge eating all the time. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:18 AM
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I am at that age. I do have a great physique, no TRT, kids and family, drive them to activities, share the household chores. I have a decent career to boot. What I don't do is watch endless amounts of Netflix. I game a little bit and have other hobbies, which I also manage to find time for, although not as much as before. My wife also works out regularly. Where there is a will there is a way. I have a decent career to boot, so does my wife. We simply divide the evenings out so that one person ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:05 AM
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But still, I'm guessing a 10 percent decline( over a decade) is not huge for someone with decent test levels. Better when you are younger, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:36 AM
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The tanking test is for much older dudes, or ones that are unhealthy/overweight. I started working out later in life and am still making great gains. Recovery does take a bit more time, but then I do have kids and other priorities that affect my sleep/rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:29 AM
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you can still build/maintain a good body in your 40s. I have a very good physique in my 40s. Take no TRT or other stuff. Just a good gym routine. Brad Pitt was early 40s in fight club.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:03 AM
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I have big almond shaped eyes. Think they are called doe or siren eyes. As a man. Have had lots of compliments from women throughout my life for my eyes. I even have a fair bit of upper eyelid showing. A big no no according to beauty standards in men. Yet have had women fawning over my "come to bed eyes". Not all standards are set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:56 AM
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It does. But women don't want to have sex with someone cause of clear skin. Bad skin might be a turn off, but clear skin isn't a turn on. The turn ons are not changeable for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 04:39 PM
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Compliments from old ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:16 PM
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So your the female version of a chubby chaser. Good to know you exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:12 PM
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As a guy that does have a grooming routine an also uses some makeup. It definitely helps. But it doesn't make me more sexually attractive. Like the men mentioned. The things that make a difference there are not changeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 01:46 PM
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Finally, someone who stated the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:49 PM
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I will vouch for this. As someone who actually enjoys his wife doing her makeup and dressing up, I have also enjoyed those times when she is just out of the shower and looked her "real" self and found myself extremely turned on. Maybe overexposure to make up is a thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:46 PM
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I am bald and mentioned thinking of getting a hair system/wig. The negativity I have experienced from female friends is insane. I tried one and look so much better and younger. Women actually look at me again in public and smile. After 10 years of being invisible I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:24 PM
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Most dads have a massive belly. Is that what you like or a built guy with 20% bodyfat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 12:17 PM
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You can add far more variety while keeping macros and calories the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:40 AM
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Testosterone in men decreases when they enter LTR and when they have children. probably why they gain some weight when this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:33 AM
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Feel free to PM me.
/r/seduction14/09/22 07:17 AM
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I did pretty well as a 5'6 south asian in the UK. Does his height help him, sure. But it wasn't a death sentence for me. Dated mostly white women though as they were in the majority.
/r/seduction13/09/22 06:05 PM
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As a dude, this happened when I met my now wife. I had 2 dates lined up and we ended up meeting completely by chance and hitting it off straight away. We had not discussed being exclusive although we had sex pretty quickly. I ended up going on my dates as I didn't know whether we were exclusive or whether she was committed in any sense of the word. But even though I had really good dates, I stopped myself from even kissing these women as I was very interested in my now wife and didn't want any p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 12:47 PM
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Wow. Calling short people ugly. The bodyshaming is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:55 PM
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Women fall in love, but aren't necessarily as attracted to these men. If the man cares and notices, he realises that the person that loves him will never give him the best intimacy she is capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 02:01 PM
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I am a guy that loves emotional validation and wants to be complemented on my looks. Would love it if my wife called me every now and then. Am hetero as fuck and also spends his time building muscle, playing sports and DIY around the house. I don't think this issue is as gendered as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:50 PM
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This isn't even new. Wife had a fantastic sex life before meeting me with men perusing her left right and centre. Before online dating. She can't hold a decent conversation to save her life. It takes a lot of effort to get her to open up. She dated me because I was apparently very confident and outgoing and people found it easy to talk to me. My experience with women isn't even close to how easy it was for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 07:26 AM
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I am not trying to deride you in any way. So if I came across that way I am sorry. I just wanted to correct a perception that I think is incorrect. What aesthetic you like is of course up to you. I just meant that the aesthetic you like can come from either gym or swimmers or any other number of types of ways people have built muscle and the methodology has less of an effect than you think. In regards to function over aesthetic with regards to gym training. There is usually very little differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:02 PM
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Also swimmers lift weights to get muscles. Its called dry land training. A simple google search is enough. The "round muscle" that you refer to is most likely because of pump and water retention. All muscles vary between these "looks" depending on time of day and recent activity. Like boxers usually have the "flat" look at weight inns and then rounder muscles on the day of the fight. It's just due to dehydration. Pump is also a reason for the fuller/swollen look, as muscles look bigger just afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 08:51 AM
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"Round muscles". Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:19 AM
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Muscles all grow in exactly the same way. Your muscles don't know whether you were picking up dumbells or planks of wood. Generally gym guys are working their whole body and that creates a more rounded aesthetic. Which is a good thing as muscle imbalances cause injuries. Something labourers are susceptible to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:14 AM
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Agree. I didn't see it for a long time. But being with someone who highly desires you is much more preferable than a lifetime of someone who is a take it or leave it attitude. I would happily trade in looks for the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 08:20 AM
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The desire for you from her. Sleeping with someone who is sexually attracted to you. Not just some responsive desire bullshit where you have to initiate. Yes looks fade. But so does life. There is a time limit on everything. That way nothing is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:00 PM
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I just want my woman to be attracted to me physically. That's the feeling I am looking for. Being in love with my personality is fine, but I want both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:52 PM
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Yes they can. My wife lost a lot of weight after getting sick once. Over a period of 3 weeks. She went from slim to dead skinny. I found it hard to be attracted to her until she put some weight back on. And I like fit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 04:45 PM
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If you want a date and she doesn't, then say you wanted a date, sorry for the mixup and move on. Don't make friends with girls you want to date.
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:54 AM
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Say, "It's a date"
/r/seduction24/06/22 07:49 AM
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This is true for some of us. Some women would rather stay quiet than have a really simple straight forward conversation. And before you blame it on the partner, yes sometimes the guy can be a dick, but many times he'd be more than willing to listen, even begging for feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:06 PM
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This is true for some of us. Some women would rather stay quiet than have a really simple straight forward conversation. And before you blame it on the partner, yes sometimes the guy can be a dick, but many times he'd be more than willing to listen, even begging for feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:06 PM
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Didn't even bring up sex when our baby was born. Was too busy being a dad. And helping wife with anything she needed. She was no slouch either and we were just doing what we thought was the right thing. Then all of a sudden one evening my wife turned around and said. 6 weeks are up today, doctor said to wait atleast 6 weeks. Wanna have sex tonight? I said sure, if you feel fine. We did and obviously there were changes, so the first thing I did was go down on her, just to reassure her that I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:55 AM
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You figured it out. + at your age you sound like a great catch for 30 year old woman. So the insecure thing you need to rectify at a bare minimum and the type of girl you perfect also needs to be career minded. Your not gonna get girls wanting to have 'fun'.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:13 PM
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Both, been approached by attractive and unattractive women. The unattractive women are more forward generally but the attractive women just hover or introduce themselves and expect you to take it from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 12:13 PM
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Could I get links so that I can see your sources? Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:12 PM
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Versatility? Like a Dremel?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 02:54 PM
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Ok dude. Like I said. Good luck with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:19 PM
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'You are too nice' is just I am friend zoning you. It usually also has a lot to do with looks. Just a nice way to let you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:35 AM
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This has more to do with overall promiscuity than the type of sex they have. So dating a really attractive hung guy is off the table as well because he has most likely shagged a lot of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:35 AM
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Or us men that find petite women attractive as being into underage girls. I can usually see the difference between a older woman that "looks" young and an actual 15 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:58 AM
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Extrapolate this to dick size and I bet there are absolutely zero women who have fantasised about sex with a small dick. So a 1/2 ratio is not bad at all for women with small breasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:55 AM
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You don't want to date women like that. I'm a lot older and realised eventually that there are plenty of women who appreciate a guy that behaves respectfully. You still have to be somewhat savvy, intelligent and confident. But good women want good men and therefore it is a great tool for filtering out unwanted personalities in partners. Women that react well to your demeanour will make for much better long term partners. If your looking for hookups then acting like an ass hole might be a skill y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:11 AM
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OK, my comment still stands. You said most which is different from more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 08:13 AM
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Just because there are more deadbeat dads doesn't mean most men don't participate fully in their children's lives. Your conclusion was incorrectly derived from the first statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:13 AM
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Yes it does. Not one but a flat of full of girls. But it is still a valid experience. This thread is full of women rejecting this as a possibility. In the nicest way possible.You did that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:16 PM
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I have never experienced this myself. Just had two women on separate occasions recount their experience of this happening to them and not liking it. One of them is my wife and the women she lived with when I met her. I'm trying to bring an alternative female point of view not a male one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:03 PM
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Not really. If their friend is stopping men from approaching her and she doesn't like it then it's obviously a problem. And friends that cock block can also act like they know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 02:38 PM
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Cock blocking is very specific to a certain sub set of women. Groups of girls that actively want to hook up with men don't do this to each other. Only women that don't want to pull men on nights out do. It's a problem when these two types of women go out together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:56 PM
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My wife has told me how much she hated her friends cock blocking guys she was interested in. She was always confused as to why meeting men on a girls night was off limits to her. Then again she also noticed how the same girls were hypocrites when they got approached. It was reserved for the most attractive girl. As she would get more regular attention. Jealousy is definitely part of the dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:51 PM
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Happened to me as well. Been cock blocked on racial grounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 01:47 PM
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Everybody who posts on reddit is rich. People just don't realise how poor, the poor people on this planet really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 11:43 AM
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I don't know. My wife has never really said no. But she is not the type to initiate. And she is definitely in the mood every time. Meaning she is very enthusiastic when I initiate. I have on the odd occasion noticed her initiating, but it is usually not the case. I think she has a high libido, but at the same time responsive. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 09:47 AM
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Exactly the same as today. Men aren't the problem either. societal structure is to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:24 PM
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I think parents and family have a much bigger effect on this than appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 01:11 PM
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But do you ask before you do it the first time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 07:02 AM
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usually it's under 20% body fat. But then we are including visceral body fat. Under 20% has not shown to increase benefit on health outcomes. But then again getting laid is good for your health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 04:01 PM
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I added "to me". You realise that this is a subjective topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:58 PM
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Ok, must be pretty awful at your gym. Where I go in Scandinavia everyone seems quite nice. I guess we have differing experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:56 PM
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I hang with upper middle class and they also put on weight and let themselves go, mostly because of career and kids. The percentage of people looking after themselves after 30 is quite low.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 03:54 PM
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Completely agree, some people just age badly at these ages because of poor lifestyle choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:26 PM
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Agree. My BF % was probably too low. Your right 12 % is probably awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:24 PM
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So sub 10 % body fat after some newbie gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:09 PM
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This is just not true. People in close proximity stare at each other. Women think they are being checked out. The men get stared at too. Sometimes i'm just admiring someones lift or their form. Sometimes because i'm eyeing up the equipment your using. Newbies generally are intimidated as they are unsure about what they are doing. I was too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:59 PM
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I've always liked the fine lines. They add to the beauty of a good looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:31 PM
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Completely agree apart from the bit where you say "afford to maintain". Me and my wife fall into this bracket and have spent our 30s and now 40s being told we look "young" for our age. But we were pretty poor in our 20s. Doing much better now. We just were above average looking and kept in shape. This meant that never put on the weight that makes many people look older for their age. + a happy loving relationship does wonders for your psychological health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:11 PM
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I find women in their late 20s to mid 30s way more attractive, physically, than younger women. Maybe I'm an outlier but if you stay in shape then the slightly older women can be far better looking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:59 AM
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Online dating was for unattractive people (nerds mostly) or those looking for something very specific in the early 2000s. Don't really know much about later though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 11:30 AM
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Without consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 08:53 AM
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Only if abortion is illegal, otherwise the man didn't do anything. Your body your choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 07:52 AM
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This is true. I have had plenty of women into me, knew I was being chatted up. Was even enjoying the conversation, but in the end was not interested. I was a bit picky about the women I pulled and maybe it meant fewer women but at least I was really into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 06:41 AM
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