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I am in the US, it's tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:14 PM
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The official position is the can't take on any male candidates at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:08 PM
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My department is having trouble filling a position right now, and part of the problem is that there's a mandate to only hire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:02 PM
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What is "sausage fest" supposed to mean here? Their target audience is men, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:44 PM
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hypocritical for PPD posters to do things like claim dude but then say men shouldn’t show emotions. Almost sure it's specifically not to go to women with your emotions, because they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:41 PM
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Over for bearcels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:25 PM
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A bear slaps your ass wyd?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:22 PM
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Because if the man is so scary, then you understand why women chose the bear. 🐻 Literal brain rot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:19 PM
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Women don't even read bios, watch a woman use online dating, they just look and swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:09 PM
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It's basically a dating resume. Women do evaluate social media to see if you're worth spending time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:51 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought it was obvious that such a statement is meant to get under someone's skin. If you're asking about it then it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:44 AM
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He did outline how that would work out. and if he doesn't, he'll literally have no women interested or who he's talking to and have 0 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:44 AM
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Sounds like you care. You went ahead and posted about it. When something doesn't bother me I don't mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:17 PM
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men act like men like this don't exist, They basically don't. Like yeah, im sure there are some, but women don't often need to use their money to get a relationship and are usually turned off by men without money anyway, so it's gonna be far less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:16 PM
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I blame all the "get to know her as a person" advice honestly. Some men really believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:08 PM
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They're so fake. They already know the dude is interested. And the men are so stupid to "confess" as if it isn't already painfully obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:52 PM
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I don't know if it's a psychological block or if it's just considered polite to not state the obvious. One person on here had said that people don't mention looks, because the person asking already knows, but I'm not so sure about that, either they don't know or they don't get how big of a deal it is, especially on online dating. If people really understood already, then they wouldn't be asking for picture advice since nothing is going to make a difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:44 PM
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Being lonely is a feeling, so of course lonely women exist. It doesn't mean nobody wants them. Sure it might not be who they want, in the way they want, but it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:53 PM
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Yeah my dad cheates(cheats) on my mom too and she knew because she looked through his stuff and found some documents with the other woman's name on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:18 PM
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No, women do things like this all the time. Going through pockets and peeking at phones etc. Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:09 PM
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Moving closer to hate the more I interact with them honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:24 AM
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For some it never stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:20 PM
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I believe the decrease in assault with legalized prostitution is a phenomenon that's actually been observed, so yeah, it would probably reduce sexual assaults. As for the dating market, I don't know about anyone else, but I would be done with dating and just hire prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:05 PM
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The idea is that they don't want it, but the dick is so good that it changes their mind. It appeals to men who can't suspend their disbelief enough to imagine a woman actually wanting them. It seems more realistic to them that they have magic dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:57 PM
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Her begging for me to stop” = “cute and feminine” to him. It's a thing from Japanese porn, the women always beg to stop. I hear they actually do it in real life, though they probably get it from porn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 09:27 PM
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Whether I am lonely or not has nothing to do with logic, but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:23 PM
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The concept of Karma is from Hinduism, yes. Though I think the modern interpretation of it is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:19 PM
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There's nothing that disproves the existence of dragons either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:17 PM
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Confirmation bias, karma isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:10 PM
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, I believe in 2-3 years time people will be doing much better in terms of individual success and relationships. What makes you believe this? It's not going to end it's just going to get worse and people will just get used to it as reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:04 PM
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They got the bite in the ass before doing anything, it's basically an empty threat. There's nothing to lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:54 PM
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Well less likely to struggle if they have a better attitude. Disagree. They struggled anyway, that's why they have bad attitudes. Not to mention being nasty towards women on reddit isn't going to help them in any way lol It's not going to hurt either, it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:46 PM
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Correct. My contention is that they'll struggle no matter what their attitude is like. And in fact, they have bad attitudes precisely because they've struggled.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:43 PM
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There are bad people with rotations of women, it's not really the deciding factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:30 PM
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Ok, but it's not why they're struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:28 PM
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It's gonna be what it's gonna be, whether it's acceptable or not, you can't expect otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:25 PM
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These attitudes develop because women don't want them. It wouldn't matter what their attitude is like because women didn't want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:30 PM
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Yes, I know you want to believe that. But, the rejection starts in kindergarten, I don't know why you expect such a person to have a sunny disposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:27 PM
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It doesn't matter if their judgement is good. If they don't want you, you're undesirable. If it's women you want to date then it's their judgement that matters, whether it's good or awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:18 PM
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THIS is why you are struggling. Causality crossed, they have negative attitudes from struggling, not the other way around. But, I know people don't want to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:16 PM
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Lol, as if anybody cares. She'll just end the conversation if she doesn't find you attractive. But, if she's polite she might let you talk to yourself while she responds "oh", "cool", "mhm", "yes" and "no" for as long as it takes you to shut up or for an excuse to come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:36 PM
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Lol, with some of the stories I hear, I don't believe this. I'm sure it depends on the woman but, there are enough stories about women with men who don't bathe, or brush their teeth or just straight up disrespect them and women talk about it like it's just this "itsy bitsy tiny little flaw" makes me skeptical that they let go easily once they're into someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:23 PM
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You're not getting what I'm saying. I'll say it in a different way. There's no point in saying what you're saying because it's just going to be dismissed, it should be obvious why. It is very true to say millionaires have money problems, it's also true to say nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:17 PM
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It really does feel like everyone has amnesia when I see things like "nobody ever said looks don't matter" or "Redpill is just common sense". I still see things like "men just need to be good people, it's that easy" every once in a while, so it's not completely gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:16 AM
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I thought it was gonna be the man and woman fighting over the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:13 AM
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Disagree, but alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:11 AM
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Alright let me try again. You must see why your definition of "easy" isn't really gonna be taken seriously by who you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:08 AM
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You realize you're talking to men right? You must see why you won't get any sympathy for that. Sometimes I wonder how people came to the conclusion that women are more emotionally intelligent, cause this is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:52 AM
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Most midgets don't die alone. Stats pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:02 AM
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Women couldn't vote, own a house or work for the same money's Gender divide really got people forgetting we're all just worthless poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:37 AM
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You could be married to a midget with a micropenis and it would still mean absolutely nothing because you're just one person. A midget with a micropenis is probably gonna die alone, that one didn't doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:54 AM
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The Fujoshi I've fucked a girl like this before and would do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:54 PM
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Yeah, but the question was never serious. It's really just asking "are you more afraid of a bear or a man". People using stars to justify their position are just being dumb, because stats aren't the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:39 PM
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How much sex am I owed and from which woman and why? I don't know about you, but I don't personally see why they owe me anything. I never entered into an arrangement in exchange for sex and I'm not even against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:35 PM
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This is already the case in a lot of sports "Men's sports" are just "sports", if a woman can qualify she's welcome to it. There's no "Men's Chess" for example. There are "Women's sections" and "Open Sections" anyone can compete in "Open Sections" gender doesn't matter. "Women's sports" exist so that women can actually compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:31 PM
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On balance women do more selection than men. Do a tally of how many times all men have been hit on and rejected a woman and then do a tally of the reverse and you'll see it's far more common for women to be picking. That you personally have rejected women doesn't really mean anything. The statement "women are the selectors" is a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:25 PM
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"used for sex" it's like women forget they don't have to have sex if they don't want to. If you don't want sex, just don't have it. If you're wanting on something before sex becomes not being used then just wait for it and stop trying to use sex for bribery and the complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:59 PM
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I think they'd just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:20 PM
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I disagree with this assessment. It's not that women think they can do better, it's that they don't find most men attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:49 PM
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Is this an unironic "I know a guy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:36 PM
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the blackpill is just normal life for women Then why do they fight it so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:29 PM
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The bear situation is just asking "which of these 2 things are you more afraid of a man or a bear". I know people apply practicality when answering it, but it's not really the point. Asking about odds of survival changes it somewhat, because it's not really about fear of the man or the woman as much as it is about surviving being stranded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:17 PM
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Healthy relationships are based on respect and mutual interest, not looks or status alone. Maybe so, but looks and status and whatever other superficial things is what gets you into relationships be the healthy or not. it‘s important to connect with women as individuals. they exist beyond your attraction to them. What you're not getting is that it's easier to do that when they're attracted to you. When they're not they don't care. It's easy to see find a girlfriend and ask her how many unanswere…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:53 PM
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The woman probably can't hurt me even if she wanted to, so the woman. Higher odds of survival is obviously with the man, but it could be hopeless no matter what I chose depending on the island. If there's trees with food and animals and a chance of rescue I'd pick the man, otherwise I'd pick the woman. The situation isn't in the same spirit as the bear one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:36 PM
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How nice for you. Women ignore men all the time in my experience. If a woman doesn't engage in conversation with me, what difference does it make how I view women? I could view them as trophies to be hunted for sport, if they don't talk to me they wouldn't know that. Unless you're one of them that believes women have a misogyny sense that only works on ugly people. The looks, money, status and whatever else matter far more than this. Arguably how you view women doesn't really matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:26 PM
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Ignore as in ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:16 PM
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you view women as objects to conquer rather than as human partners Women will literally ignore me that aren't attracted to. I don't understand why people think things like this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:05 PM
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Great! Look at you setting the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:01 PM
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I don't play videogames much anymore, give me the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:26 PM
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I mean sure, but there is some leeway between pushover and asshole. Granted I get what you mean, a lot of times people are labeled assholes for just standing up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:14 PM
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I'm not talking about men in general, there's still 2/3 men who wouldnt rape in any circumstances Framing it like this makes it completely unrelated. How would a woman know if a man is in the 1/3 or the 2/3 and 30% is still a lot. So for this discussion it is men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:10 PM
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I think this is an overstatement. It's an inverse of the Just world fallacy. Good things don't happen to good people and bad things don't happen to bad people. But the reverse isn't really true either. Things just happen, people have the advantages they're born with and the things they work for. It's clear to me that the most important factor in long term success is the circumstances you're born under, but it doesn't really matter if you're an asshole or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:08 PM
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What opinion do you want? Men are too dangerous, women can't trust them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:00 PM
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I agree men are dangerous, women should go to the woods where it's safer, like I said in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:55 PM
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You one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:49 PM
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No one said they felt safer with bears than within society where rape has consequences. I bet I can get someone to say that. Now can you give your opinion on those 1/3 men who would force women to have sex if no consequence ?? A world without consequences is not the real world, there are consequences even without laws. How people would act in a hypothetical world is irrelevant. Just like these women wouldn't really choose to be alone with the best, they're just saying words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:41 PM
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I mean if you really feel unsafe around men you can definitely figure that out. Not saying it's easy, but I know there is absolutely 0 effort being put out by people picking the bear (because they don't mean it)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:35 PM
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I think it doesn't matter since we do live in a society with consequences. See if the bear cares about getting arrested. But, if someone feels safer around bears, they should be around bears, if they're choosing to not be around bears they don't really feel safer around bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:33 PM
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People have been killed everywhere. If men are more dangerous than bears, you shouldn't want to spend most of your time where there's more men and fewer bears. It's riskier to be around men, you should go where it's safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:27 PM
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Sure, but you're choosing to live in a location swarming with men instead of the relative safety of the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:20 PM
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Lol. Well places with no men. So out in the wilderness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:13 PM
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emotional intelligence Really need to get people to stop using phrases like this and spell out what they mean instead. Cause a lot of the time it doesn't mean anything and is just thought termination.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:09 PM
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The logical conclusion is that you'd be safer living in the woods with wild animals. Wherever you live there's a lot of men around, yet I don't see anyone making the move. You should really take your safety more seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:05 PM
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Apart from natural sex drive, people have been trained to expect to have children and relationships since childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:02 PM
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I'm convinced it's an instinct. Even if they aren't cheating, I think a part of their psyche prefers paternal uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:25 AM
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Even if she had to know it's better to just do it. Your certainty is more important than her feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:18 AM
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If women were the stronger sex then men would be cattle by modern day. They don't care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:02 AM
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I know plenty of men with no women interested, idk what to tell you. There are also plenty on the sub. everybody has some sort of physical attractiveness. Is this even true?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:54 AM
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Sure, but I guess it depends on how you define "matters". Physical attractiveness is the only singular trait that will get you laid. It is effective by itself and more effective than anything else. Thus, more important than anything else if your objective is to get laid. If you have other objectives, sure, I'd agree other things matter just as much. The way I see it, if one woman isn't interested, it could be for any reason. If no women are interested, it's your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:43 AM
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Yeah, but as I said when I posted about it, they're still gonna ignore my DMs for the most part. It doesn't really matter unless you can get them to interact with you in a meaningful way, which is mostly about looks imo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:31 AM
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I posted on here that I was starting a six figure job and didn't see how it translated to women and the only thing anyone had to say was basically "use the money to improve your looks", so i think you're wrong. Granted, nobody on here necessarily knows anything. But, I still don't see how money matters except in that you can use money to look better, which just means looks matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:24 AM
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I have several lesbian friends who haven't been able to date for years and they don’t give a flying fuck And this doesn't seem odd to you? Why aren't they interested in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 12:24 AM
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but it's still our preference! Talk is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:47 PM
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No you're just giving the party answer. Most of you can't think for yourselves. You just give the group approved opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:42 PM
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It was sarcasm bruhv
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:10 PM
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You have a limited number of likes per day unless you pay for the subscription. Pretty sure most people just use up their likes for the day and then stop. Kinda like one of those games with daily tasks. It's better to just pay honestly, swiping is a waste of time. Tinder Gold shows you who's liked you, so you can just get matches instead of spending time swiping on people you aren't going to match with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:02 PM
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Right now “stop making it about you” This isn't "Right now" this is just how women are, "stop making it about you" is the position year round.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:41 PM
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They don't mean, it's just the social media answer. Women are prone to group think, most of them just say whatever the approved group answer is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:42 PM
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And the context that makes it not bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:29 PM
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I don't think I've seen it much on this sub, I hope none of you really ask why some men talk about women like they're an alien species and then without a hint of irony say you like when men keep their distance and show you their hands as they pass. Y'all are alien species.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 10:05 PM
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I always appreciate the men who give a wide berth and show their hands. Loool, you're the police now. I appreciate a woman that can get over herself personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:53 PM
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Sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:17 PM
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Well lives with his parents is a problem. And the job is gonna depend on what type of job, and even if it's a good job, does he actually have money?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:49 PM
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You can't really compare dating as a woman to dating as a man. Men will make the effort for women, women aren't going to do that for men, so as a man they're tight you really should work on your social skills if you want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:31 PM
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But even ltr maybe. Will somehow help them get more money. Or ease the financial burden. Because the woman can pay for stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:26 PM
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The point is money and sex. Wife has job and wife has vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:20 PM
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Who told yall that women like this?? Women definitely like guts on rois, they just overestimate what can be done without roids. That’s why cute skinny artists and musicians get bitches. Some women like guys that look like this, some don't. I don't know where you would get the impression that muscular men aren't popular amongst women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:47 PM
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Who told yall that women like this?? Women definitely like guts on rois, they just overestimate what can be done without roids. That’s why cute skinny artists and musicians get bitches. Some women like guys that look like this, some don't. I don't know where you would get the impression that muscular men aren't popular amongst women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:47 PM
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The way the 6ft thing spreads makes it significantly stupider. If she was attracted to him until pulling out a tape measure then it makes me question why she cares. Sounds more like she's interested in a status symbol than a relationship. A 6ft+ boyfriend is just a fashionable trend, if her friends had 6"2 boyfriends that would be the standard instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:12 PM
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Yeah, but it's a cultural thing. They're just parroting 6ft off social media, if not for that "Looks tall enough to me would be the standard". Hence the marker, she can't even tell if a guy is 6 foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:01 PM
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It's funny some of the skinniest girls I knew in highschool gained a tonne of weight pretty much as soon as they moved away from home. It's so weird that it makes me wonder if their parents were controlling what they ate all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 10:33 PM
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Sure. But unless you have additional context into this person's life you're just suggesting stuff at random, I don't see how that would be more helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:07 PM
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Until they lose weight anything else will be pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:03 PM
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Exactly, so what's the point of telling them anything else, when the problem is obvious. It's like feeding the delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:00 PM
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It does in the sense that they're avoiding the obvious problem. If they need someone to confirm that their weight is the problem, then I don't see anything wrong with doing that for them. Telling a fat man that his problem is that he's not an active listener or something is genuinely unhelpful, you're just lying to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:56 PM
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Ordinary people won't replace half their assets if lost, ever. You lose your house in a divorce at 45 - 50, that's it, you'll never own a home again. The less you have to lose the bigger the impact losing it has. Elon loses 100 million he'll still have 100 million, he will experience no true strife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:34 PM
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Yes, but if it's all you got you can't replace it. How are you gonna afford your target shopping hall when you were broke in the first place and even broker now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:22 PM
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I'm sorry. If that's all you have why wouldn't it be a big deal to lose it? It should be the other way, losing stuff is only insignificant when you have a lot of stuff. Elon losing 100 billion doesn't matter. A man with $6 losing $3 is a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:19 PM
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Lol, men who are easy are the majority. Yet, men who get sex thrown at them are the minority. Why choose him over literally any other man if not for the fact that he's more desirable? Women can basically fuck any man whenever, yet some men get a lot and some men get none. Given this is the women's choice how do you explain it with anything other than "The men women find desirable get the most sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:14 PM
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Having sex with someone doesn't mean you're interested really.... Then they want to have sex with them which is something men value. Don't expect women to also be impressed. They already are hence the sex, the men they aren't impressed with don't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:05 PM
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That's value as judged by women. People always make this sound more complicated than it is. If those men aren't valuable then why are so many women interested, keeping in mind that there are plenty of men with no women interested. HVM ie valuable by popular opinion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:52 PM
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Only like supermodel level women would get dates like that. I mean you just takes luck really, find someone unattractive with a good job and they'll do it. Most women wouldn't be comfortable with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:26 PM
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I'm sure you do. But, I don't know why you think the hot ones are the average ones, most aren't petite blondes. Also, you think that a fuckboi or any guy like Tate will give up the chance to sleep with them Maybe, maybe not. But I don't see how you know he couldn't if he wanted to. Petite blondes who regularly post on IG are exactly the type of women that fuck boys go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:52 PM
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I know plenty, I'm an "IT Engineer" myself. Overweight and kinda plain looking describes the average person lol. Desk jobs aren't great for your looks. Sure some of them are hot, but that doesn't describe the average one, especially not if you're comparing her to an IG model.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:16 PM
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Yes. Especially compared to an IG model lol. The average lawyer or engineer sits a desk all day and doesn't get enough sleep. The average IG model spends all their time on looking better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:58 PM
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Interesting last sentence. So why do you gals like to say to lonely guys its the "misogyny" instead of just calling them ugly Cognitive dissonance, they don't want to be seen as shallow and don't want other women to be seen as shallow, so they come up with other reasons. If a woman wants to be with a man it's because she finds him attractive. Doesn't mean he's "Chad" necessarily, but she likes how he looks,there really isn't more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:50 PM
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Sure, but you were asserting he couldn't, but all you're saying is he wouldn't. He in all likelihood has no interest in the average lawyer or engineer. Based on what the average woman looks like they wouldn't be good for his image anyway. He wants to be seen with hot IG models, not overweight women who are stressed and sleep deprived from their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:00 PM
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That's the women he's chosen to be with. How exactly do you demonstrate he couldn't get someone else if he wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:24 AM
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How do you know? Also the women he sleeps with are hot, I'm sure that has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:21 AM
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He can't get with an average IT engineer or a lawyer who know their worth How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:15 AM
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But if she’s only looking for a relationship, she probably ain’t doing one night stands. I don't buy this. Maybe she's not doing them as regularly as she would before. Women know which men will accept the born again virgin schtick and which won't and it's the desirable ones that won't. Don't have any way of knowing for certain, but I'm not gonna believe what someone tells me on the subject. People's convictions largely don't stand up well against attention from attractive people in my experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:46 PM
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Depends on what the activity is. Spend 3- 6 months on piano and you won't be anywhere near good enough to play a show. While you'll be ahead of the average person, being ahead of the average person isn't necessarily worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:40 PM
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If she really matured, I don’t think this hypothetical woman would sleep with the attractive man again unless he showed he would treat her well. I think otherwise. But it would depend on the woman I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:35 PM
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It isn't an impediment at all. If you're unattractive it doesn't matter whether or not you're misogynistic. The same way it doesn't matter if you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:46 PM
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but personality and how it synergizes with that of the other is very important for LTR success. Sure, but I don't think this statement disagrees with me. Nobody wants to date people they aren't attracted to, you could be the most compatible people in the world, if the other person isn't physically attracted to you, they aren't going to date you. Looks are what people select partners based on, and relationships either fail or succeed based on personality and other compatibility factors. Nobody go…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:13 AM
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What's wrong with it is that looks are a big part of partner selection for everyone just as it is for you. Dating for personality isn't really a thing. Everyone who shows interest in anyone is doing so because they're physically attracted to them first and foremost. Anything else is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:40 PM
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If you're spending a lot of time together you'll probably develop a pidgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:04 PM
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And I want to fuck Scarlett Johansson, that's not going to happen either. That's not how this works and you know it, can bet good money you aren't dating any ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:20 PM
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Height differences is a newish thing they're into on social media. Meaning they want the height disparity to be as great as possible. Or at least as great as possible without being freakish I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:05 PM
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They don't because it was never a serious suggestion. It's just another way to say "shut up" without sounding like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:02 PM
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It's framed this way because women complain about being used for sex. It can't simultaneously be something you wanted and something you were tricked into doing. With the way women talk about sex, it doesn't sound like something they want to do, but rather something they trade in exchange for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:43 PM
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I'm with you. A lot of the time men don't even lie, they just don't say anything about long term plans. I've seen where the men say "no" when asked if they want anything long term and the women still get upset and say they feel "used" when he's done with them. "Showing interest" really just means she likes you and you didn't completely blow her off. If you're nice to her at all they see that as "showing interest".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:32 PM
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This is true for everyone. If you bake 100 cakes and fuck one goat you'll be known as the goat fucker not the baker. People weigh the negative more than the positive generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:39 AM
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Women are only ever single for one reason. They don't want the men that are interested, they want better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:04 PM
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This can't be what people think. Yes, I assumed that wasn't the case
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:54 PM
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I find it hard to believe this is real. But as the sec wasn't satisfactory before getting married he shouldn't have gotten married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:38 PM
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I wouldn't. Because apart from sex, I don't know why I'd bother committing to anyone. It's not like there's anyone special currently in my life and I don't want kids, I don't really have commitment for the sake of commitment as a goal. I prefer to not have to answer to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:32 PM
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Bears can climb trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:15 PM
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I thought the whole thing was that they were both out to kill you? This can't be what people think. You mean to tell me women believe they have better odds of fending off a bear? Thought that was a male delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:11 PM
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Bears almost always leave if you scream at them and avoid them. I love the faith in this statement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:41 PM
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Women aren't delusional. They are attracted to who they are attracted to and they aren't attracted to the rest. it's not that if they realized they'll never get the kind of man they want them they'd go for someone they aren't currently considering, they'd just stay single instead. It's the same way a straight man isn't going to start dating gay men if he can't get a woman, it's not even an option for him, he doesn't see a benefit from it. Women are no longer financially dependent on men and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:37 PM
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How often are women alone with bears you reckon? It's crazy that you think like this, it's not Winnie the Pooh. 48 hours alone with a bear, you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:28 PM
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Not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're far more likely to be killed by the bear than you are to be raped by the man in this scenario. Picking the bear would be crazy, it doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:50 PM
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Would probably be clearer to ask "would you rather be raped or killed?". Because choosing the bear is a crazy person's answer. I understand the implication is the man might rape you, but the bear is going to kill you, there's no might about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:01 PM
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Same reason any woman is single. She's not interested in the men that want her. Her making money off Redpill talking points isn't gonna change her behavior, and she's not good looking enough for the men she wants. Yes, men primarily select their partner based on physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:09 AM
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Rebuttal to what? Like I can't see why jt needs to be explained that finding a man is a key part of finding a man that's compatible, you have to be pretending to not understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:44 AM
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The analogy doesn't make sense unless you think most men are bad and most women are good, which is exactly what people who use it think, but they haven't examined their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:42 AM
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if you can't find one It's even included in what you said. You have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:37 AM
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Gonna be hard to do that if you can't find a man, don't you think? Like I said if tomorrow all men became gay this would be basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:10 AM
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The insinuation here is he can do whatever he wants because he's tall and attractive, so you won't really impose any penalty on him ignoring your pleasure. You'll stay with him regardless because he's tall and attractive. Shorter less attractive men would have been dumped if this was a big enough problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:06 PM
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I feel like people are missing the part where she said she doesn't usually want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:01 PM
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Lol. Step 1 to finding a husband is finding a man, and as a woman that's basically a given. You're downplaying how much value this is. Imagine if all men suddenly became gay, how easy do you think it would be to find a husband then? No man is trynna marry someone they don't want sex with. Men wanting to have sex with a woman is directly related to her ability to get a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:55 PM
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2 whole money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:36 PM
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The g is silent in lasagna. Real Gs move in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:50 PM
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Who's "everyone else" and how do you know which group is the minority in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:11 PM
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If it's such a small issue why is it so contentious? There should be no problem if a man didn't want to pay, yet for a large enough contingent of women the man not paying is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:42 PM
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I think onus is on the men to show women and out these men who lie to many women. Can't help. Women interact with these men far more than I do, I wouldn't even know if they were trying to cheat. That women don't like many men is beyond my power to fix. Besides, why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:46 PM
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That's true, but not necessarily true. There are 756 billionaires in the US, not all of them are famous. Once you start dating an A-list, celebrity you become a celebrity anyway. She couldn't even go to your place without the whole world hearing about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:48 PM
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If you're a billionaire or something then maybe, otherwise no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:42 PM
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Yes, successful men want successful women. Being successful just isn't as big a pull for men as it is for women. Meaning if it's a stunning highschool grad or a mid PhD holder, the man will be more inclined to pick the hot one, where the lower attainment would more likely to be a turnoff for a similar woman. Hot people are more educated anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:52 PM
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"on the regular" lol, this was in 2006 chief nearly 20 years ago, gonna look if I can find current numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:36 PM
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Doctors don't recommend sarms or steroids either, yet they are spreading amongst the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:24 PM
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I'm not the first person to make this prediction, but I'm gonna claim it. In 10 years or so the leg lengthening surgery thing is gonna become more common place and we are gonna see guys above 6'0" getting it because they think they're too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:06 PM
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I think part of it is people taking their cues from women, but I think women focus on the wrong things when they talk about men. Like they're always complaining that they can't find a man that's kind or treats them well or whatever, but, they also reject most men that show interest, so the obvious answer would be try amongst the men that you're ignoring/rejecting. They are obviously rejecting most men for a lack of physical attraction, but they won't say it. There's nothing wrong with rejecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:25 PM
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Man, I don't know. I'm not saying anything attractive dude is necessarily getting approached every day. But, basically anytime he'll have an interested woman basically everywhere he goes. Goes to church, a woman will be interested. Goes to a party, a woman will be interested. Joins a club Gets invited to a dinner There's just gonna be someone interested everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:05 PM
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even one of reasonable attractiveness won’t be approached by a woman, rarely if at all. This isn't true. Women generally just don't find most men attractive. Of course you'll have better luck if you put yourself out there. But, women do approach and flirt with strange men. But, I will concede if you just stay in your house and don't talk to anyone being attractive won't help. But, some of the questions here, especially the ones about approaching women are just dumb. And people really engage with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:44 PM
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You know a lot of discussion about dating really does come down to looks. I know people get annoyed by people saying "looks" as the answer to everything, but that's because it really is. Like any question about approaching women or getting dates or moving from dates to sex or any of it can really be answered with "looks" and it would be correct. The "where to go to meet women" questions in particular are just really dumb, the answer is anywhere if you're good looking and nowhere if you're not. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:09 PM
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How would they know? I figure that what they really mean is they see an unattractive man with a woman once and are so shocked that they assume he must be Casanova. I've noticed everyone claims to know a guy, but the guy is never there to speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:53 PM
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The guys don't really exist. It's an overstatement to win an argument. When people say "gorgeous woman" they just mean "woman", they call every woman "gorgeous".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:48 PM
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Well yeah, I didn't mean he'd do it soon or even that he wants to. But, if she wants to get married then she can nag him about it till he does. Maybe it'll take a decade, but she's probably not going anywhere either. Shared living space and child make leaving difficult, so they're probably stuck with each other either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:48 PM
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He probably will eventually. It's not like he's going anywhere. He has a kid and they live together. At some point he's probably gonna realize it's over and just bite the bullet and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:17 PM
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If you're getting compliments from women you're at least moderately attractive. If you weren't they'd just ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:28 PM
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You have to save money for if things don't go well. Yeah, whatever you manage to save as an 18/19 year old will be basically nothing when you get your degree and a good job, butt what if something happens and you can't get a job of getting a job is delayed. Even enough savings to survive an extra month while you look for a job can make a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:21 PM
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Nevermind I misread your comment. I thought you were saying that you wouldn't be bummed about not getting laid if you did other things. However, what people value is personal to them. Not getting laid is going to be foremost in a lot of men's minds no matter how many movies they consume. Nothing really matters more than anything else, the only difference is how you feel about it. Jerking off and doing drugs is as valid a way to spend your time as watching movies and listening to music, those jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 04:20 PM
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My first question was what makes any of that better? And secondly how much would you need before you wouldn't be bummed. You would rather waste your entire life feeling sorry for yourself with other bitter men on the internet then do anything at all? See this is what I suspected you think. That men on the internet complaining about not getting laid don't do anything else. You're asserting if they did they wouldn't be bummed, but I'm gonna skip over the fact that I know neither of those assumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:43 PM
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I don't know about that one chief. What makes other things "better"? What is a "life" and how much of it would it take before you wouldn't be bummed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:35 PM
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I don't know about that. Anytime a woman has been interested in me she always made it pretty easy. It's only difficult interacting with women when they don't like you. If she likes you it's definitely not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:33 AM
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Depends entirely on how attractive the 21 year old is. But, probably the 21 year old, she's probably hotter and it's just a date, I'm not obligated to marry her if I don't like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:54 AM
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It'll just be the current status quo. They aren't telling Chad no, it's just refusing sex with men they already don't want sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:06 PM
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It'll have absolutely no effect. Women already don't want men and they won't be able to say no to the minority they do want. Also I don't see why criminals would care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:29 PM
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They aren't attracted to them. 80/20 etc. it's really not that mysterious. Women really just don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:09 PM
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I do. The first time I had sex. The girl told me to shave before meeting up with her and I've just kept up the habit even if I'm not expecting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:57 PM
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"Debunking" seems like a strong word here. "Criticizing" might be a better word. Even with the criticisms you've voiced it sounds like young men being single at higher rates than women is a reasonable expectation. Which from what I've seen, yeah, that's going to be the case. Maybe the disparity wouldn't be as extreme with a different methodology. But, men being more single and more eager than their female counterparts does seem like it's what we can expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:53 PM
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Like she needs to feel anxiety, put her in her place etc. theres no question some women will go for that type of thing, but also no question that many wont. I agree with you, trying to manipulate these things is pointless. I'm sure some people are good at it, but it's unnecessary and it would really depend on the particular relationship you have with her. Trying to break interpersonal relationships down to a science isn't realistic in my opinion. The initial attraction tends to be the biggest pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:48 PM
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If anything Redpill overcomplicates women IMO. Look good and have money that's basically it and you can get a woman. Anything else is going to be to taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:31 PM
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Fruit juice is sugary, but I find that people don't find the taste as sweet as soda. You could try that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:57 PM
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You can fry everything too. Lookup keto recipes and add carbs. You'll probably be full though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:36 PM
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I would prefer something not super sugary too Sugar is the easiest way. Ice cream will do it. If you want to do it while avoiding sugar and keeping protein high it's gonna be a fight. Spending all day eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:35 PM
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Chad would have been taught the same thing. Yeah you're right, everyone learns the same lesson imo, "Chad" was just successful. Everyone growing up is taught to be kind and a gentleman or whatever, and through experience we all learn those things don't really matter all that much. The difference would be how we learned. So no the "shy nerd" didn't start better than "Chad" and has only gotten worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:58 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. What's more important would be whether or not the viewing woman thinks they might be having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:46 PM
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She can just see him with other women. If she doesn't know him, social media is basically your dating resume rthese days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:43 PM
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Not sure of the logical connection. But, my answer to this question is I don't think women really care about body count unless it's extreme, I don't think men even care all that much tbh, I just think men take more pride in having exclusive or near exclusive sexual access to a woman. Again sexual access to women can be hard to come by, so being the only person to sleep with a woman, especially an attractive woman comes with a prestige to it, because it's not easy to access. I think women would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:33 PM
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You're asking if men are only desired for sex? Then no, I rarely find that to be the case. Even if it were the case it's good because men like sex, and it can be hard to come by, thus some men's willingness to pay exorbitant fees for prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:25 PM
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Not sure what the question is getting at. But, yes straight women enjoy sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:11 PM
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From this perspective? The men that are more valuable will have more women willing to have sex with them and thus will likely have higher body counts. So for men body count can be evidence of value. There's no way to have a high body count as a man without being superior than average on certain value metrics looks, money and social skills or whatever. Some people believe that women actually prefer men with high body counts, I don't believe that to be the case, but some people do. What I will say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:06 PM
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Trying to emulate men imo. I don't think women can really handle NSA sex, in my experience if a woman wants to sleep with you, then she wants a relationship with you, no matter what she says. See it all the time,they can claim to be FWB or whatever all they want, the waterworks are gonna come on when the man doesn't want a relationship with her, or finds someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:32 PM
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Even blind people care if their partner is attractive. Blind women care just as much as sighted women apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:44 PM
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I don't think most people have a hard time admitting their own attractiveness or lack thereof They definitely do. If they didn't they wouldn't be looking for alternative explanations. Hence the cheat codes. The answer for why a girl won't text you back or whatever is usually pretty obvious, but it hurts their pride too much to accept it. It has to be that you didn't send the right opening line. Or didn't wait exactly 2.325 x as long as she did to respond, or you didn't neg her hard enough, or so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:03 AM
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Men don't want to believe it, because they'd have to admit that they're just unattractive. Which I guess people have a hard time accepting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:51 AM
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I know they're talking fine, but they don't get that because of the stonewalling and such. There is a whole industry around convincing men they are just saying wrong words.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:45 AM
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Ok. So you see why it's not the same. Conversations with other men don't require them to be attracted to you That's why men are looking for cheat codes , because they aren't attractive. They think they just aren't talking right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:38 AM
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Talking to humans is always the same, until or unless there is mutual attraction. Definitely not true. Talking to strange women is definitely way harder. They stonewall and end interactions ASAP, it depends on context of course, but men are usually more open to conversation with other men than women are with men usually. Those men are illogical and irrational. I agree, but they're desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:30 AM
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Talking to women is not the same as talking to a man, as I've said women tend to be more guarded around men, it can present a challenge. Some men want to believe they just aren't saying the right combination of words, that there's some special way they need to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:24 AM
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Sure. But it's gonna be hard to establish those if women don't talk to you. Hence the search for cheat codes. To be clear, I know cheat codes don't exist, but I get why some men look for cheat codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:12 AM
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Yes, if you want a romantic relationship you have to try and establish a romantic connection. If you want female friends it's different. But, even there it's not really the same as making male friends because women are more guarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:04 AM
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Sure, but for enough people being normal seems to not work and they can't accept that there isn't something they are missing. So they theorize that there must be a secret technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:54 AM
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Why are men still subscribing to the myth that women are lower animals which need to be manipulated in order to cause them to dispense sex and relationships? It's simple really. When you're an undesirable man women don't talk to you and rather than accept that they're undesirable men want to believe there's a button combination to get women to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:42 AM
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They already have all the same opportunities men have. This DEI stuff is concerning. But, whatever the world turns regardless and I don't make the rules. Just gonna try to crank out that article in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:52 AM
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It wasn't meant as a solution, it was said flippantly. It was only meant as a "solution" in the way I expounded upon if they need the help then don't bother working. I just can't believe all the thumping I hear about a fucking patriarchy when shit like this is going on. Watch how we're gonna have an unemployment problem with men and I'm gonna get to hear new exciting flavors of how it's men's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:44 AM
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But anyway if women need these quotas to be in the workforce that's a sign to me they shouldn't be there. Mark my words 10-20 years from now we're gonna have exactly this problem but with men and everyone is going to be asking "Why aren't men stepping up?" Gonna write the first feminist think piece myself to collect some of that money. My problem is the quotas not the women, I would rather women starve than have these exist. It's gonna spread it's gonna be a problem. I feel like you don't need a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:37 AM
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I feel like I already expounded on this more than once.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:26 AM
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I don't want discriminatory hiring practices I want to know how we keep missing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:20 AM
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Bro, stop being so friggin practical. My point was just that these quotas are discriminatory, unjust, bullshit and make me whatever the opposite of sympathetic is to the plight of the common woman. Give them a dollar a day for all I care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:16 AM
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If they really wanted to, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:12 AM
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I'm not of the belief that it'll really either need or cause an increase in taxes. Women would be fine. Or at least as "fine" as they've ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:58 PM
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You want all your taxes to support women through welfare? Need a major increase in taxes to fund that. I mean taxes already go towards useless bullshit to be fair. But anyway if women need these quotas to be in the workforce that's a sign to me they shouldn't be there. Mark my words 10-20 years from now we're gonna have exactly this problem but with men and everyone is going to be asking "Why aren't men stepping up?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:54 PM
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They can do whatever they want. Drop the quotas if women can't compete without our them they should get back in the kitchen. But knowing how these things work this is just gonna keep happening until it becomes a problem then we'll get to hear how it's the fault of men and the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:47 PM
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Don't care. Does anyone care if I go unemployed for extended periods of time because of quotas like this? Didn't think so. If women can't compete without assistance then they should just get out. This is obviously not fair and there's no good reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:39 PM
0

So that crap like this stops. Get them out of the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:35 PM
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I don't think men are superior to women, but whoever is proposing these quotas clearly does otherwise why not let women compete for the same pool of jobs men compete for, why do you need positions reserved for women, just be the better candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:33 PM
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Which is bullshit. If women want to be taken seriously in the workplace do they really want people questioning if they only got the job because it was a reserved position for females? I know I'm personally going to take women less seriously in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:31 PM
1

What's that have to do with gender? Just don't hire anyone then. Only hiring women is bullshit, they want to be taken seriously then let them compete with the men. If they can't do that maybe they should stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:19 PM
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Just today I heard a manager complaining that they got a resume they liked but couldn't take the person on because they don't have anymore headcount for males. Only hiring females right now. I don't want to hear anything about no goddamn patriarchy. We need to put these birds back in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:09 PM
2

Might as well date tweens. (In game) Got you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:43 PM
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No, I can't agree that women struggle unless I use a different definition of "struggle". I guess it comes down to what struggle you're talking about. To have a successful long term relationship with exactly the type of person they want? Sure, both struggle with that. Getting dates and/or sex? no, only men struggle with that . Can't take women seriously when they complain about dating apps because they swipe left so much. Swipe right more and you'll get more matches. The situation may be tough fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:32 PM
1

Again never seen it. I'd believe you if you told me some people are different. But, I've never seen it even amongst my friends. If she likes him she'll be receptive from the moment she looks at him, otherwise any amount of singing, dancing, gifts or jokes are going to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:16 PM
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Lol. Have you lost track? They looked at me for a minute and decided they wanted to sleep with me and every woman I slept with has expressed interest in marriage within a few months of knowing them. Not that they proposed on the spot So from where I stand if she likes you you'll know within a minute, and if she likes you, you can have whatever you want with her. I'd believe you if you told me not all women are like that, but I've never seen this thing where they take even a day to decide whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:09 PM
3

I said obviously interested, as in clear that they wanted to be with me And that was their forever opinion of you for years to come? Who cares? I don't see how that's related. Did it even last until the next morning? They lasted until I no longer wanted them to, never been with a woman that didn't express interest in marriage. So at least from my experience if she wants you she wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:58 PM
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Lol I've slept with women before and everyone I've slept with was obviously interested immediately 3 seconds is obviously hyperbole and not meant to be taken literally. Whatever time it takes to look at someone is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:49 PM
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"The reason i get no one is because im short and there's nothing i can do about it" What amount of effort is reasonable to expect? If "do literally whatever you have to" is the answer to that question then the example you posted about misleading women seems to fall under that umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:46 PM
3

In my experience about 3 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:36 PM
3

I kissed a close friends girlfriend, but in my defense I liked her first. They're married now lol, so I guess good thing it didn't go further than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:39 PM
9

Men who are nice and know how to talk to women are attractive. Men who are attractive are attractive. Anytime I see a woman say something like this it's always about some man they wouldn't have wanted anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:36 PM
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Well it's not like women are generally ok with that dynamic. So swapping the genders doesn't work. Men can't just do housework because few women would accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:33 PM
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Part of it is that women are more frightened of men. In most cases a strange woman isn't going to just show up to a date after a single interaction. Even to initiate a conversation, a lot of the time they are clearly uncomfortable if they even think I might talk to them. The other thing is that straight women just don't find most men attractive. I don't know if it's similar in the lesbian community but straight women seem to prefer to just stay single rather than date 90% of the men they've met.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:01 PM
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I feel like I used to see more people disagreeing with Redpill. These days it feels like people don't disagree with what Redpill says, just how they say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:40 PM
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I feel like I used to remember more people disagreeing with Redpill. These days it feels like people don't disagree with what Redpill says, just how they say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:39 PM
1

You want to find the one's that won't prostitute themselves. Then your income isn't going to mean as much to them. They really aren't that different from American women, just poorer. I grew up in one of those poverty stricken bullshit countries, not Brazil, so maybe Brazil is different. Every complaint men have about American women still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:41 PM
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Yes staying in Brazil for a few years is the best bet. These women know how the process works. Once they know you have a US citizenship they're gonna want that green card. But I suppose you're right, children do make it harder for them to leave, especially if you don't care about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:30 PM
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But the more modest but still attractive women (6s 7s 8s) will often want a real relationship and build a real family. I don't know about that one chief. If that's what they want there are plenty of men in Brazil who would be happy to do that for them, but it's the same as anywhere else. Only the top men are really in consideration. As with anywhere some men and women won't abandon you because they just won't. And I get what you're saying if you go to Brazil and stay in Brazil you can compete by…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:22 PM
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No Brazillian Chad is going to want to date an American whale just because she slightly outearns him. Green card. They definitely will. Though I guess that's marry and not date. Also if you're a Brazilian Chad you can just date the land whale for the money and then cheat on her when you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:13 PM
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I agree that women who send low effort messages shouldn’t complain about men doing the same. And yet they do. Realistically if someone is getting a lot of messages you’ve got to put in effort if you want to stand out. I know people like to believe that, but it's just not true on the dating apps at least, it doesn't really matter what you send as a message. She decided whether or not she'd talk to you when you matched. Anyway my point was just the hypocrisy. To sit back and complain about low eff…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:53 AM
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They just don't get it. 99% chance she's going to ignore the message no matter what I send, so why should I waste time crafting a message she won't respond to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:11 AM
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You're free to ignore the message even if you think it's high effort, so I don't know what the point of this statement is. It's very easy to sit back and criticize other people's effort, yet when women are put in the position to actually make the effort, they send the same low effort messages they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:58 AM
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If it takes effort, she doesn't want you. And if she doesn't want you, effort won't help. Women always complain about the wrong things when they complain about "men" because they're talking about men they've chosen. If they instead complained about the reasons they didn't choose men, people would see what they really want and there would be no more Bluepill perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:48 AM
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Then how were the messages they sent? I feel like we already went through this and established that whoever your talking about doesn't actually put in any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:36 AM
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Women aren't any better, in fact they are worse. It's easy to criticize when you don't have to do anything. Women really sit on their ass and say "perform for me monkey" and you support it, unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:30 AM
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Are they paying me to be their goddamn jester? That's exactly the point, it's projection what do you think women send on Bumble literally just "hi" or a 👋 Having a vagina doesn't make you too good to respond to a greeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:22 AM
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Oh so they didn't even send any. It's real fucking easy to criticize and not do anything isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:18 AM
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How were the messages they sent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:13 AM
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We had hot girls with glasses too, nobody was confused about the difference. I mean they have friends and when your hobbies are video games and anime many of those friends are gonna be male. And males are sexually attracted to females. Unless your nerd girls just never had any friends, which sucks I guess, but that's not what I saw. Whether or not girls had boys swarming them had nothing to do with whether they were shy and nerdy and everything to do with whether or not they were fat and ugly. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:55 PM
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these nerdy girls desire chad just as much as loud party chicks. It really do be like that. I was friends with plenty of shy, nerdy girls growing up. They had legit entourages of the dudes they played DnD or LoL or watched anime with and they rejected them just as readily as the party chicks did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:15 PM
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This is too incongruent with reality for me to imagine. Even men that treat women horribly, if she's sleeping with him, she's gonna say she likes his personality. Even if the only thing she knows about him is that he's hot she's gonna say she likes his personality. It's hard for me to imagine a woman not liking your personality and still sleeping with you, cause no matter what you do, if she sleeps with you, she likes you and will act accordingly. I just can't imagine a girl sleeping with me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:08 PM
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Personality. I think being liked for looks is best, but her just straight up disliking your personality is gonna suck. However IMO the looks choice is the only one that's going to avoid getting cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:49 PM
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You have anything that suggests they have trouble with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:18 PM
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They can get likes, it's the metric I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:28 PM
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Apparently not. They do just fine in online dating as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:11 PM
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Truth is that you can’t always distinguish. I really don't get this, in my life women are never just being nice. Maybe women at work, but they kinda have to be nice when they are at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:34 PM
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Probably like 6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:30 PM
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Sure, but I feel like the times this comes up it's been more of them than women disagreeing Sure you always have the women that are like "I've had a higher libido than all my boyfriends 🤷‍♀️" but I feel like I see more men doing it, it honestly feels like some of them are in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:03 PM
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I don't know that ND men prefer ND women. But, I do know that ND men struggle to get matches on other platforms, so I see the appeal for the men. Just for the hopes of getting anything. I don't really see the appeal for women. Unless it's common for ND women to prefer ND men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:50 PM
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I mean, that is another reason. But, unless there is high demand for ND men amongst ND women, they'll just use Tinder or whatever. If they don't care either way they can just use Tinder, if they prefer NT men they can just use Tinder. ND women don't struggle elsewhere, so I don't see what the appeal is for them, unless they prefer ND men, and I don't know that to be the case. I don't know that ND men really prefer ND women either, so they'd really only be using this in hopes that they'd have bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:48 PM
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It's not all coming from women to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:35 PM
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Ok and I don't have a way of knowing how common that preference is amongst ND women. But what I do know is that at least some ND women prefer not to date ND men and that ND women don't struggle to find dates through other avenues. Thus this platform will appeal most to ND men, but they really shouldn't get their hopes up, ND women don't need this and so I doubt it'll be big amongst them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:32 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/YeRviHMSKi I guess this is just one woman, but indicative to me of what you can expect. No they don't want to and they don't have to, so they won't. I mean maybe some women will feel this way, but not enough to matter, women can always find their dates elsewhere. I suppose the app might be moderately successfully for gay men, but then if you're gay Grindr already works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:56 PM
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It's going to be basically male only and then die. Women with autism and ADHD don't need this, the other platforms work for them just fine and have more desirable dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:47 PM
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I mean sure. But, again these still aren't really "high standards", unless age and martial status are also superficial, and those also delete huge chunks of the population. I've never heard anyone of either gender voice "not disabled" as a standard, is kinda assumed, maybe assumed poorly, but still assumed. Someone who voiced not disabled as their only standard would be viewed as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:16 PM
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I guess that depends on how you define "high", if you define "high" as eliminating most of the options then I agree with you, if you define high as stringent and unreasonable then I don't, because once you're looking at the entire population then asking for anything other than female is already going to severely hamstring you. Even just asking for single is getting into high standards territory by this logic. Single females under 50 is also a high standard. Any standards are high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:45 PM
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Sure, but some people do so there's the answer to your original question. If you're asking why some people get spiteful and vengeful whole other's don't, then I don't really have an answer for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:13 AM
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Nobody is happy really, but there isn't really a solution, it seems to me this is just how human sexuality works .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:09 AM
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this lady isn’t the woman who rejected them. She would have. You should try growing up as an undesirable male, literally all the women reject you. Its not really fair to her, but I would take gambling odds that she would have rejected them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:04 AM
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Women just aren't interested in most men sexually. It doesn't matter how low their value decreased, they don't see a benefit in being with a less desirable man, it does nothing for them. Unless he has something to offer that she can't get on her own, there's no point in the relationship. It's the same way no matter how low a straight man's value falls he won't be interested in a gay man's advances. They just have no interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:57 AM
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You can look into the future and see that a dude you haven't even talked to is going to be disgusting and based on your clairvoyance you know there are no good men. I don't know if you realize this, but on these platforms it's the majority of men that get ignored, you don't know that there are no good men, you don't even care to talk to most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:46 AM
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About as many as the average woman based on how they swipe, basically 0
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:43 AM
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No woman ever met a good man online. You should tell that to all the women that married them. they prove it with the disrespectful and disgusting things they say to us. And the ones that just say "hi"? Quite disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:39 AM
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Anytime I see women complain about being unable to find good men I have to ask why they don't look amongst the men they're ignoring for the traits they're looking for. You can't have 15 unopened DMs and say you can't find what you're looking for, you're not looking. Unless there's some bigger reason for the ones that are ignored that you aren't mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:28 AM
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You can pursue both ranges it turns out. The most desirable age range is gonna have the most competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:50 AM
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More men go after 20 year old women than 30 year old women are more attractive. Yes, even more would go after super models if that was an option. The most attractive people get the most attention, what's confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:44 AM
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Because younger women are more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:10 AM
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Ok. But, I don't get the connection. The context of men complaining about single mothers is that they don't want to date them. I don't know how deadbeat father's got into the conversation, they obviously don't want to date them either, if that's what you're looking for. But that goes without saying because heterosexuality is being assumed. You want to see complaining about men check out a women's space like TwoX or something, you'll see plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:01 AM
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and you don't see women constantly shitting on men for having kids, similarly why would women not wanting to be step mothers be seen any differently. Up to them. They can complain if they want. Women can choose what is and isn't a problem for them, apparently having kids isn't a big one for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:54 PM
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It doesn't really matter. I don't think it's the fact that they've had children that makes them unappealing. It's that they have children, so now you have to be a step father if you date her, which is responsibility that's not everyone wants. I don't think most people really want to be dealing with someone else's children before they've even had their own. Additionally straight men aren't looking to date deadbeat dads, that would be for straight women to be worried about, so it's irrelevant in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:44 PM
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I don't disagree, but as I said when this was brought up earlier, this is basically no standards. It's just that any standards at all is already too many standards to be realistic. The market is just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:31 PM
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So you never found anyone suitable till you met your husband? That's crazy to me, but I guess that's standard 80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:12 PM
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Why weren't you considering anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:00 PM
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I view competition as an active participation when you have a chance to win. Absolutely not. Not everyone has a chance to win. Being rejected from the start means that you aren't in the competition in this sense. That's your perspective. From the man's perspective he stated his case and you picked someone else. That's the outcome he wanted, but someone else got it, he didn't do a good enough job appealing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:57 PM
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Yes. You could have chosen any of them, but you chose him. So he outcompeted them. If someone you liked better asked you out you might be married to him instead. That's competition. I don't even know how you frame it as not competition. The guys you weren't interested in lost the competition, they all wanted you, but only one got you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:49 PM
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I don't know why women feel the need to justify rejecting people. And they always come up with the stupidest justifications. It's like they don't realize they can just say "I didn't want to fuck him". Of course he's in competition with other men. She can pick another man can't she ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:20 PM
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This is stupid. Is more than one man interested? Then he's in competition with other men. This is like the deepest depths of dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:02 PM
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So even if a man wants a relationship women aren’t under any obligation to be grateful and grovel for it unless of course that man brings value to the relationship Even then, would she be obligated to grovel? If protection and provisioning were all it took to get a woman there'd be fewer single men and a lot more kept women. Doesn't this just indicate that women are the bottleneck, we're on a sliding scale now. First it was fat men don't want single mothers, now it's but those men aren't willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:31 PM
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Not anything super stringent. I just try to keep my protein high-ish around (175g) I'm a big guy but not that big and calories as low as I can without feeling like shit because I'm carrying too much fat ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:20 PM
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I mean it is a compliment on some level "even better looking than you." as if I'm the standard for good looking, it's actually a big compliment, so I'd take it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:16 PM
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I've been with an older woman and I'm a loser, it's definitely a thing you just need to t do the usual. Go to the gym and keep tanking rejection till someone says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:02 PM
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Maybe we can't determine what's worse, but we can determine what's more effective and it's definitely being a woman. They marry younger and are less single and less sexless. If the goal is to eventually be in a stable relationship being a woman is the easier position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:36 PM
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And the overweight men don’t want older women with kids. You'd have to demonstrate this to be the case. Which is gonna be hard to do, just put such a woman on online dating and she'll have suitors in hours. You can say "they just want sex", but that's unprovable and in my experience just a thing women say about men they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:29 PM
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This is just rationalization of what you wanted in the first place. Another woman did this with short guys recently too. You had a problem with an autistic man, and it turned you off of autistic men, what a coincidence that it turned you off from people with the undesirable trait. Is "autistic" the only trait he had? Was he blonde and it turned you off from blonde people, was he tall and it turned you off from tall people? Fortunately your personal experience has revealed justifications for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:12 PM
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I don't disagree. But, these are still low standards. Just goes to show how bad the market is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:27 PM
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See some women in the chat saying how many favors they do for their male friends and Idk, never actually seen much of that irl. I was with a group of friends and a friend talked about how she helped her ex with his job search and every man in the room was surprised. Expectations are really low from association with women in my experience. I doubt they would be if it was common for women to put any real effort into favors for their male friends. In my experience if a favor isn't super easy a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:03 PM
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Walking you home every week is not a "nice thing", it's basically a job. Walking her home the first time was a nice thing. Every week for 3 years is a servant's position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:35 PM
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There is a colossal gap between ugly and "Stacy". But she's not ugly otherwise he wouldn't be interested in her and she wouldn't have dudes volunteering to walk her home. She's at least attractive to him obviously, even if to nobody else. I think he's fine, I just don't see why he needs to walk her home if he doesn't want to. If he was still walking her home, at least regularly it would be a sign to me that he's holding out hope that she'll change her mind. We're she either a man or a woman who'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:32 PM
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And she knew exactly why long before he said anything. I like how women have the highest social awareness in the world until it would be more beneficial to be oblivious, then suddenly men are master manipulators. They go out as a group every week for 3 years and every week this dude walks her home like he's her guard dog. Anyone with eyes would know he's interested. People who didn't know better would assume they were dating. I can't imagine a woman refusing to do anything ever and "I'm tired" n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:22 PM
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Predicated on FRIENDSHIP. Predicated on him being a simp. They're out with a group of friends, he didn't leave her on the side of a road. What she thought was that he'll always do whatever she asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:15 PM
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And why did she ask him and not someone else? Because she expects him to say "yes". She could get an Uber, she could ask someone else, she could get over it and walk herself. He's been walking her home for 3 years and yes , he's going to stop when she rejects him, the same way it would stop if she got into a relationship. He's not obligated to keep doing whatever she wants as long as she wants him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:12 PM
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She's not in need, he suggested two alternatives to her. It's probably for the best that he doesn't keep doing what she wants. If she had a boyfriend what she would do is have her boyfriend walk her home instead, he's just a stand-in. She's the one using him at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:07 PM
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~5 hours at the week at the gym, track your macros, and weigh your food? Either this or just a lifetime of something less intense. Women don't know what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:42 PM
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You date a homeless woman? I have. She didn't want a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:21 PM
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Yeah I'd say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:13 PM
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The times I've had sex with women, it only confirmed my perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:03 PM
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Or people could not ask questions where the answer is just "be more attractive" Unfortunately the answer to anything prior to at least having a woman talking to you on a regular basis is "just be more attractive". People have gaslit themselves into thinking it matters where you meet women, like they're a special class that can't handle being spoken to at the gym. Would it be a problem if you talked to a man in this situation, no? It's only a problem when it's a woman because you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:17 AM
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Ok this is irrelevant though. If someone is a self proclaimed misogynist, that right there is what's holding the other dude back. Disagree. I don't think most men who struggle with women can even get women to talk to.them, how are you gonna tell he's a misogynist if you've never spoken to him. If a dude is being rejected for being a misogynist then he was already deemed good looking enough to warrant conversation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:58 AM
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Likes things I like So fantasy and horror books Video games Adventure (hiking, swimming climbing skills) Fun loving, not too easily offended. Ideally she can cook Good enough with people so my parents like her. I love to spoil women, so I don't mind expensive tastes. Apart from that, not fat. I like petite girls. Prettier is always better of course,but I'm not picky on face, just not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:45 PM
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Did she really just discover that she can open her mouth and say what she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:26 PM
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I will say he's pretty lean and has a lot of muscle. So gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:13 PM
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That's for a above average looking woman and still really hard to pull off. Don't agree, our OP here claims she was basically able to get a date whenever she wanted and the guys didn't even want sex with her after, clearly not attractive. What's cool as a guy is that when a girl shows us interest, it's almost exclusively genuine. Don't agree with this either, though I agree they might at least want something from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:43 PM
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He's 5"11
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:07 AM
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No, more specific in the instances I've seen. One I recall saying she wanted to go outside and suck his dick. There was another that described a sex act, I don't recall exactly . But I suppose that's close enough to "hi, can we fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:58 PM
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My trick is I always assume she wouldn't be into me, you just approach anyway. That way you don't have to worry about whether she will like you or not, cause you already assume rejection. I suppose you could just also assume that she'll be into you instead, but reality is gonna prove otherwise too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:29 PM
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I have a very attractive friend, women throw themselves at him. Every woman I've ever seen him interact with immediately compliments him in his looks and I've seen at least a couple times women just ask him for sex out of the blue. He got a new job and slept with 3 women at his new office within 6 months. Basically he'll just say "I want to have sex with her" and before you know it, he's done it. That's how I know women are really just like men, they just don't find very many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:05 PM
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Isn't that dating? It's wild to me to complain about actually getting to do the thing the app is made for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:12 PM
25

Do you know what it is like to go on 100 dates and have every man reject you? I know what it's like to message 100 women and have all of them ignore me. I don't know what it's like to have multiple people agree to a date in a week, no. It's hard to empathize because for every man that rejected you, there's 5 you wouldn't even consider, that's the pile most men are in the "swipe left" pile, they don't even exist. The reason dating, especially online dating is worse for men is that it's not actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:06 PM
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No, they aren't. Getting a match just takes a week at least and even if they match only like 3 matches a year respond. And I've already asked out basically every single woman I know within 10 years of my age, so I'd have to go find a new social circle to take that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:57 PM
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It doesn't even if the rejection rate after the initial date was 99% it would still be easier for women. 100 dates could be done in 4 months if you really wanted. The problem is going to be that it's hard to find 100 men that you actually want, which is obviously a problem for all the guys you don't want. I don't know that every guy has it as bad as me, but it usually takes 1 - 2 years before I find a woman that agrees to a date. There's no world in which you can basically get dates whenever you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:50 PM
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Then just go get another date, it'll take like an afternoon to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:44 PM
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Not mt experience at all, it's usually pretty clear. I think people looking for signs are usually grasping at straw out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:14 PM
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To strange women? Many. To women I'm at least aware of, 1 or 2 is enough for me to proposition them for sexual favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:06 PM
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Yes, even in poor countries there's social stratification, some men are wealthier than others. Some can afford a car, house and vacations and others can't. Sure the women are going to be easier to impress, cause just the ability to treat them to dates can be pretty impressive relative to those around you. The other thing is they all have the internet, depending on where they are, they may harbor hopes of marrying an American or some other first world citizen. They know who has the money and how …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:15 PM
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Who's more likely to make a move in general? Men. Who's more likely to make a move that actually leads to a relationship? Women. Approaching women is largely pointless imo. They're just gonna say "no". If there was a chance she'd say "yes" she'd have let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:09 PM
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Andrew Tate is hilarious, I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:07 PM
3

They can just use body fat % then.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 08:54 PM
2

I don't know if most men, especially younger men actually make a distinction between sleeping with someone and being in a relationship with them, maybe when they get older or if they are successful with women early in life . But, for the most part if you want to sleep with someone as a man, you have to start a relationship with them, the two aren't really separable realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:56 PM
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It's because men don't care. "Where there's a hole there's a goal" basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:09 PM
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I guess, but there's some pretty big differences. There's a difference between being rejected for a fake relationship when you were 10. And being rejected for 20 years until the women are no longer attractive and then being used as a security blanket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:58 PM
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Who are you talking about exploiting? I promise men don't feel exploited by commitment free sex, so you aren't exploiting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:11 PM
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A guy rejected you when you were 10 and it scarred you forever? Good thing you're not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:54 PM
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I'm not even sure I can cry anymore. I haven't since I was like maybe 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:52 PM
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so... men are all going for stacey? Based on that statement? Nothing stops literally any woman from having 1 or 2 "situationships" if she wants one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:48 PM
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Exactly as you described. If she wants you,she talks to you like a normal person, if not either she just ignores you outright or she takes a minimum of 24hrs to respond so you can't really talk to her. Yes she might say things like "I like talking to you" even as she actively ignores you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:11 PM
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It wouldn't nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:01 PM
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Why do women want to get married when they initiate divorce 70% Status. They want to say they're married. Marriage is boring however, I don't know why most people who have lived a life of "serial monogamy" think they'll have lasting marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:30 PM
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No, but the traits that you select for are the only traits you're guaranteed that your partners are gonna have. Date/don't date whoever you want. Just know that when you hit your partners shortcomings, it's because you didn't really care about those traits when you were picking. When the complaints come out that men aren't kind of don't treat you well or whatever, it's because those aren't the things that actually get you chosen. Once you realize that you can start complaining about the right th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:03 PM
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when you go to talk to a chick and she shoots you down rudely. Or as I like to call it "when you go talk to a chick"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:28 PM
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Men don't care as much about women 's money. I don't think that surprises anyone at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:01 PM
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Isn't that what "valued for their resources" means. Basically becoming an employee, offering sex and companionship for money, basically the same as a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:29 PM
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I don't see how a woman pretending to want you for your money is any better. It's the same thing except she's just gonna demand more of your time and money than the prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:27 PM
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Women value resources more Let's legalize prostitution, then we can cut all the extra nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:16 PM
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Only men like muscles Given big muscles are basically a requirement for matching on dating apps, I know this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:29 AM
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If you haven’t noticed her checking you out, stealing glances, smiling at you etc then For a lot of guys this is never going to happen. They're going to have to try and force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:07 AM
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And they're mostly sexless as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:50 AM
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Yes, I do think so. Sex requires relationships unless you're hot. Also yes money, if you're looking for dates, rides, gifts, some of your bills paid, to move into his place, etc. All of those things cost money and a lot of women are looking for these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:39 AM
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Commitment, security,, money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:29 AM
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No, women only find 20% of men attractive. The rest have to offer something besides sex in order to get sex. I honestly think it's less than 20% based on what women actually say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:48 AM
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It's the same for women. People do a lot of talk, but "superficial" characteristics are the ones people care about. Also most women don't find most men attractive. So most men aren't really rejecting anyone. Nobody is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:09 PM
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In my experience, attraction is usually the problem. Talking to women is very hard when they aren't attracted to you. They act so nonchalant and like they're the busiest people on the planet. Once they're attracted to you, you can just have a normal conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 05:00 PM
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Currently. Monogamy is a relatively modern concept.most of our ancestors are female. For most of human history most males didn't reproduce. So our species can do just fine without women being attracted to the average man. Also if you actually ask women they'll tell you they don't find most men attractive. You'll see it's pretty extreme for some of them. Some say they only see a man they find attractive once every couple of years and that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:45 PM
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It's largely men who are unable or unwilling to come to terms with this. I agree , some men seem to be in full on reality denial. They craft any number of theories to try and get around the fact that women just don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:53 PM
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making yourself look better is actually the easiest thing you can do and probably has the least impact on whether you will pull the girl or not. I agree it's the easiest thing. I say it's also definitely the most impactful thing as long as you actually look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:04 PM
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If the average woman wasn’t attracted to the average man, our species would’ve died out a long time ago. Not even kinda true. A single man can impregnate several women simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:43 PM
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Sure. They like sex, but they aren't attracted to most men. Just as nobody would argue that straight men don't like sex, but they aren't attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:56 AM
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I'd argue that if they're attracted to you all of that is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:17 AM
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Actually it would be rape. That's a little more serious than cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:45 AM
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It's mostly about your physical appearance imo. Go to the gym build muscle and lose fat. After that hair, skin and teeth in order. Beyond that make sure you have your own place a nice car, nice clothes and money for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:58 PM
1

Or you just do. You don't need the lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:49 PM
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Men are usually the ones asking out And are mostly getting "no" as the answer. Men don't really pick who they want. It's not long before they get to the point where they aren't selective at all and just taking whoever shows interest. It's really women's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:37 PM
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I have a couple CEO friends from my college days. They are CEOs because they started their own businesses after failing to get good jobs. They have as many female friends as the next guy. Probably more than average honestly. Is there some reason women can't do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:07 PM
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I don't think it's hypocritical. I don't even see how it's not nice. I always thought being nice was how you treated someone, not the number you assign them when they aren't even in the room. Assuming this is even the same person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:23 PM
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How do you even know these are the same people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:18 PM
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You see some people doing a thing that everyone does and then jump to "see men are hypocrites." How do you even know these are the same people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:13 PM
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Are we gonna pretend women don't do the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 03:06 PM
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Men struggle because women aren't attracted to them. Their preferences are largely irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:54 PM
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He slept with 3 attractive women. Where's your confusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:33 PM
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No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:23 PM
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I think regardless of whether or not you buy into genetic determinism. It's clear physical appearance is the primary consideration for most people and all this talk of whether you should be nice or an asshole or how many microseconds you should wait before texting or whatever is just ugly people grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 12:44 PM
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I mean if I'm getting you correctly you're talking about discussion in places like this then it really comes down to this : "I'm a man and I wouldn't do this toxic shit to you, but you wouldn't have given me the time of day. In fact my past experience tells me you would sooner go back to your 'toxic' ex than date me, thus being toxic isn't such a deal breaker to you, thus I don't really take you seriously when you complain about toxic behavior" Women are actively choosing who they want, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:50 AM
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If it's not an active decision, the perception still comes back to the same thing. If a woman picks a toxic man it's noteworthy because she with 100% certainty has someone else she could have picked, doesn't make it her fault necessarily, but everyone knows she could have picked someone else, so she's going to get more scrutiny. So that's why people don't talk about men picking toxic women as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:37 AM
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Sounds like a perfectly reasonable excuse to me. A woman can just hop on an app and get literally 100s of people to choose from, of course it's going to be more egregious when they make bad decisions. You could have done anything and you did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:26 AM
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Men don't generally do the selecting. Men choose the women that choose them. It's more glaring when women make bad selections because they could choose basically anybody and still made a bad choice. I don't know that men usually have men women to choose from. So it's more like the toxic women picked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:18 AM
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Unless it's an A-list celebrity nobody is going to care that they're a celebrity. How are they gonna find women? If you jump on Tinder nobody is gonna give a shit about your minor role on family matters or whatever. Even if it was an A-list celebrity what is the real answer to the question "how many people they could sleep with in a week?" I figure most people would say "as many as he wants", but I doubt that's true, I think too many women would be afraid of being seen as groupies to sleep with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:20 PM
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Yes, they are misdiagnosing their problems. The issue isn't that there aren't enough kind, emotionally intelligent men. It's that there aren't enough attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:04 PM
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I'd say the woman honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:45 PM
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Ok. Women aren't usually friendly with strange men unless they want something. They are often friendlier with shared context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:19 PM
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It's so hard to take women's complaints like this seriously. Only 300 other dudes where that one came from. The reason he's leaving her on read is because they all want the same guys, he's talking to a dozen other girls, she's not his top priority. She would have no interest in the kind of guys who would smother her with attention, they are the ones in her DMs with the unopened messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:58 PM
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I don't doubt that women are attracted to the "right man". I think there's a misunderstanding about how women's sexuality works. It's not like they are more attracted to the top men and less attracted to most men. That's more how men's sexuality works. It's that they are attracted to the top men and not attracted to most men at all. Sure when they run out of options they may seek relationships with less desirable men, but I don't think they do so because they want sex with the less desirable men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:01 PM
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If you have to ask then no women are interested. Don't believe this crap they actually aren't subtle at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:50 PM
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Women aren't usually friendly to men unless they want something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:49 PM
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Lol. Is this a real question? Looks are the main thing taken into consideration. Is this what y'all believe? That women aren't concerned with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:42 PM
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I don't know that women "hate" men. The way I've seen it described is that they have the same amount of interest in most men that a straight man would have in gay men. In that they aren't interested in them at all. They are attracted to some men clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:00 PM
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An attractive personality is a personality an attractive person has An unattractive personality is a personality an unattractive person has. Of course even attractive person can have a uniquely terrible personality. But 95% of the time when people talk about personality they don't even know the person whose personality they are analyzing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:58 PM
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Why do women ask insist that incels are a much bigger problem than guys like this? You know why rule 1 & rule 2
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:55 PM
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People are only confused because they refuse to believe that it's just rule 1 and rule 2 All this be nice vs. be an asshole stuff is completely irrelevant. If you have trouble it's because you're unattractive, end of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:37 PM
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Hard to say. I guess it depends on how well they pass. If people know they are trans it probably confounds this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:27 PM
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They want good sex with men they are attracted to. And they aren't attracted to most men, most men therefore get sex by offering other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:24 PM
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Women enjoy sex and relationships with a small subset of Don't disagree, they aren't interested in most men however, like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:23 PM
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I don’t think women having standards or more standards make dating prostitution That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying women don't want to have sex with most men, so most men have to provide something to entice them into having sex. Not necessarily cash, but some benefit. They wouldn't want sex just for sex Think of the dudes you don't find attractive. Most women feel the same way about them, they don't want to have sex with them, but some could be convinced to, under the right circumstances. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:21 AM
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They just need to find 1 person attractive to want to be with them. Being inundated with simps means nothing to them because they wouldn't let most of such simps touch them with someone else's dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:06 AM
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Prostitution by another name. That's what most relationships are imo. Some women (plenty I'm sure) are with men they find attractive, but I genuinely believe that if you pick a woman at random you would have to pay her to date most men she's met.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:02 AM
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Have you not seen how women describe attention from men? The most common analogy I've seen is like getting attention from gay men, they aren't interested in it at all. They actively dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:55 AM
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Sole provider and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:23 AM
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Women just aren't that interested in men in general. They see absolutely no benefit in dating most of them, that's why men are more desperate, to women most men are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:22 AM
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I never said that. I doubt he's getting past pleasantries, so women aren't seeing his manifesto. So he can schizo post as much as he wants it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:25 PM
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It wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:12 PM
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I figure its true, just as with everything not all men count as men. I'm sure plenty of women are unhappy that they aren't getting approached by millionaire Adonises. They don't consider expression of that unhappiness to be an invitation for regular old assholes to approach them, because they said "men" not "losers"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:52 PM
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I guess if you want to have sex with a bunch of people, but also want someone to split chores and rent with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:44 PM
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No amount of good looks makes up for social blunders imo. I That you were talking to him in the first place is the real benefit of good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:06 PM
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How do you think the dynamic works? The men just seeking sex and those seeking long term relationships don't appear any different to women, both are just another dude trying to get their attention. "Why wouldn't they be picky?" might be a better question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:15 PM
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If you're not getting the treatment you want it's because you're unattractive. This is the same for men and women. Gym, diet surgery do what you have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:00 PM
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I did it and my grades were pretty good, my GPA came out at 3.8 when I graduated. Sleep had to suffer some and I didn't really have time to do a lot of the campus activities or really have much of the college experience outside of class. Was basically doing one of class, work or homework 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:23 PM
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Sure, but this level of minutiae doesn't really matter. Whether you ask to sit or not is a very minor thing that isn't going to make a difference. If she likes how you look then you can do either works, if she doesn't then neither will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:06 PM
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It's not the only reason. The other reason is men want relationships with women more. Women are far more willing to just do without.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:47 AM
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1 is taken by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:25 AM
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I guess what I'm getting at is the way you make friends as a woman doesn't necessarily work so well as a man, so the skills may not translate in a straightforward way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:23 PM
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Women struggle with friends too, loneliness isn’t just a male experience. Sure, not suggesting they don't, but there is a difference in the way people respond to women. I've observed when women try to join a new group people get excited to add them, the same doesn't really happen for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:18 PM
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I realized that you didn't ask for advice and maybe don't need it but I'm just firing it at you anyway. It's fine, was just on my mind, I saw someone mention that making six figures was a big deal to women and I realized I was about to make such figures and didn't really see how that was going to make a difference. Women wouldn't even know unless I was bragging, which is not something I tend to do, nor is it something people like in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:15 PM
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No, they wouldn't. I've seen how women make friends, a lot of it is just that they are accepted when they initiate contact. Women don't really get blown off and ignored the way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:08 PM
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Like, are women in 2424 going to be saying "Women just BARELY got the right to vote 500 years ago!!!"? Yes, they will be. I'll say that with confidence. I can't fathom 1000 years in the future though, who knows how people will think in that timespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:37 PM
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I think you'd hear less of some trite things like "treat women like people", I think women would be understand why some men talk about them like another species if they saw what interacting with them was like from the male perspective. I think most women would do fine as men as long as they weren't trying to date or expand there social circles, from what I've seen they really don't get it. Nobody is going to want to be around you just because you're pleasant and kind lol, that would be something…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:56 PM
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I guess it helps in "presentation" at least for the attraction part. Presentation including, but not being solely limited to physical attractiveness. Can pay for activities that make you look hot on social media and for status symbols like cars and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:12 PM
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Seems like the money is secondary in your opinion and is really just useful in the sense that it could be a tool for improving your appearance. Or at least mostly useful in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:46 PM
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Guess it is still basically "get shredded". Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:24 PM
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"Passport" is my home territory. Girls back home definitely respond to flashing a little cash, girls here are not as easily impressed. I figure I'm gonna fly in a girl from back home this year or next.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:44 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:40 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:40 PM
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Software Engineering. Have about 10 years experience. It's my first job in the US . I'm originally from the third world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:39 PM
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Also Software. Back home 30k is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:37 PM
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Im not from the US originally, came here for a master's and got a big boy job after completing it. Doing software.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:35 PM
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Gonna be starting a new job next week, gonna be making a little over 200k, which represents an unimaginable amount of money for me, I am currently making around 30k. I don't see how this translates into attention from women though, they're still gonna ignore my DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:27 PM
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New York
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:06 PM
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I thought it was the people upstairs doing something at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:04 PM
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I think the stereotype of Chad is modeled after the stereotype of a frat bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:00 PM
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I did, definitely didn't think those happened here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:58 PM
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It's not completely false. It's completely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:27 PM
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Go next.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:55 PM
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It happens, but if you have to ask, then you probably won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:32 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. If she didn't plan to talk to him she may as well unmatch too. Though maybe she's keeping him in reserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:34 PM
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Or she matched by mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:26 PM
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Because if you live with your parents they can't move in with you and thus move out of their parents place. That's the only reason they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:16 PM
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Like they pay for prostitutes and OF? Cause those are definitely not scams. I don't really understand how a man falls for a Romeo-Juliet scam, but I guess some men might, if they can believe some random woman really wants them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:22 AM
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Assuming women don’t date men just because they like them It's men that I don't think are necessarily dating women because they like them. Of course women date men because they like them, they can basically date anyone. Not understanding why women would react negatively towards a man taking advantage of them for sex. I never questioned this. Men are less likely to feel this way because women aren't incentivized to coerce them into sex, women could just get sex whenever they want. Not understandi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:04 AM
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If you found all of them attractive why wouldn’t women find men attractive as well but not have a crush on them? Cause some were more attractive or I interacted with them more. It's been some time, but I'm fairly certain that yes I was attracted to every single girl in my grade. I would have dated any of them given the chance, but most girls really weren't interested in dating unless you were one of the handful of dudes they all had crushes on .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:27 AM
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Yes, that's what makes me different from a woman. Having a crush on one girl doesn't mean I'm not attracted to the others. All women are women, why would I be opposed to fucking one, I'm a straight man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:14 AM
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What specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:02 AM
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Growing up did you have a crush on every girl in your grade? I did at some point ask out every girl in my grade, yes. Does it matter if I really had a "crush" on them, I showed interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 02:00 AM
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Is there even a shred of historical evidence that indicates that women in the past “just [weren’t] generally attracted to men”? Probably not, but we wouldn't have to go back very far before it wouldn't matter much if they were attracted to men or not. "Marry somebody or starve" or their father would just decide who they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:38 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:25 AM
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These issues didn’t exist in the past How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:10 AM
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according to women this is uncommon among men they’ve dated According to me women are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:09 AM
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Sounds like a wide net , but slower
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:02 AM
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You know men who get taken advantage of for sex also are pissed off when this happens, right? I've heard a couple men say they have, doesn't seem common though. I also don't understand why women would try to coerce someone into sex, when they could just ask their neighbor or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:55 AM
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And when you're done getting rejected by all of them, you find more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:49 AM
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See. Everyone would be happier. If women's sexuality was more like men there would be little incentive to "use her" for sex. They'd just have sex because sex is fun. No need to tell her you'd love to be with her or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:43 AM
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I challenge you to find the cons You can't eat as many donuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:11 AM
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Men do it too Man how, I see a text from a woman, I immediately know she wants something. Is this a scam that only works on Chads or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:33 PM
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Markers of intelligence were being able to create tools out of nature given goods or create fire. And our modern dudes can read and write. Modern man is already leaps and bounds above what prehistoric female finds attractive maybe we'll later evolve such that STEM degrees attractive, but since not having a STEM degree doesn't kill you, I doubt it. We have already evolved the markers of intelligence that the female lizard brain likes. The horny doesn't understand what a degree is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:14 PM
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That's crazy. Maybe when I was 14 and growing, I definitely can't do that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:07 PM
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Just the meat? Or like a burger with buns?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:04 PM
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First I'm hearing from a woman that she finds most men attractive, but ok. Must be great to be surrounded by attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:00 PM
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Right I addressed this before. If teir brains aren't rwired then the ability to build rockets would not be something they find attractive. They'd be into more primitive markers of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:57 PM
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Dude if I said that I’m sitting on public transport right now surrounded by dudes I mostly find attractive looks wise Is this the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:53 PM
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The guy on welfare is already more intelligent than his ancestors, he doesn't have to be any smarter to survive. So additional intelligence seems pretty irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:50 PM
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And you know that whatever you’re asking is completely subjective and satisfied by whatever you deem appropriately as “most” "most" is not a subjective measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:48 PM
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I don't see why intelligence would be something selected for. Remember what you said about not being rewired. A man who can figure out welfare is already way more intelligent than his hunter-gatherer ancestor. He's intelligent enough to survive and reproduce and being any more intelligent isn't really going to help him. I think as humans we've escaped evolutionary pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:47 PM
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Answer the question I asked. I never asked if you found men attractive. I asked if you found most men attractive. You know that's not what I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:44 PM
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You could have just answered the question. I love how you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:37 PM
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So do you find most men attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:29 PM
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Women don't usually find most men attractive, but believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:18 PM
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She is on the thread and didn't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:17 PM
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Women get old and want kids and men get money and basically pay women to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:04 PM
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We'd had less Musk's, less Gates, and less Bezos's You assume that these men have traits women find attractive. I disagree. Show these men to a group of women divorced from their game and wealth and I doubt they'd be popular. Also the most glaring thing these people have in common is that they were born into wealthy families, that's no genetically heritable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:59 PM
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Thus it's a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:56 PM
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Sure, in practical terms it's just what makes them horny. But if they were magically rewired to like more dudes it really wouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:45 PM
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Doesn't really matter anymore. As long as they don't reproduce with close relatives every baby is viable there will be no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:29 PM
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I don't have the right to an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:27 PM
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They only ensure traits they're attracted to. Their preferences only ensure positive traits if negative traits cause the offspring to die before sexual maturity. In modern day you'll live long enough to reproduce no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:26 PM
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Throw a woman in a baseball cap and a T-shirt and see how long it takes for someone to try and sleep with her. It's not the effort, it's that they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:24 PM
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Sure, and then they get all pissy when they realize their partner didn't think they were really all that special or weren't interested in committing. Their partner is doing what they had to do to get some puss, it would be better for everyone if women were more like men, men wouldn't be lying for sex and relationships would only be between people who wanted the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:16 PM
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We'd have less wealth, less good-looking people, less tall people, less moral people. Based on what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:11 PM
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Men who have no standards, have no standards because having standards would be pointless. If women were more like men people would just date because they like each other and have sex when they want it. Which I'm pretty sure is what women would prefer too. Now we have men dating women because they have to do so to get sex. Some date women they don't even like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:10 PM
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Hormones. That's really all there is to it imo. Just nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:08 PM
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Most men also aren’t interested in most women physically. I don't think this is true. I think most men find most women fucksble at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:06 PM
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Yes, everyone would be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:05 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:03 PM
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Grow up as a boy and you'll see that girls basically have 0 interest in boys except for a select few. Be a man and you'll know most women don't really want anything to do with you or most men you know. You're a woman so chances are you don't find most men attractive. All those men you don't find attractive, most other women don't find them attractive either. I don't know the ratio is really 80/20, but most women really aren't interested in most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:55 PM
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If you ask women they'll say the quality of men everywhere is extremely low. They just aren't generally attracted to men so it wouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:56 PM
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High investment, narrow net is another. This isn't a viable strategy. Investing a lot in a single woman doesn't make sense because 9/10 times you're going to get rejected no matter what you do. What happens to guys who do this is they spend months/years trying to prove how special some girl is to them then she meets a dude somewhere and starts dating him basically immediately. Then those guys get all heartbroken and angry and post incel rants on Reddit. Better to just treat women as interchangea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:38 PM
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I don't think there's really an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:51 PM
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I don't know how men manage to be friends with women sometimes. I've seen women on verge of tears saying nobody wants them in front of men that have been saying they want them since childhood. Nothing will up your misogyny faster than actually getting to know women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:48 PM
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in proximity to "unattractive" nerdy girls and got chances Sure, some do. For the most part they just hang out, the girls have no interest in the guys. And every girl in these friend groups have 2 - 3 of the guys trying to get with them. It's the absolute worst, because they're unattractive girls so you get to hear them bitch about how guys don't like them, when you know for a fact like 5 guys have been begging them to date for years sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 04:35 PM
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Paying for woman because otherwise she wouldn't spend time with him is awfully resembling prostitution. Good observation. Basically is what most dating amounts to imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:39 PM
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Makes sense to me. In practicality the dating process is the man courting the woman. The man is the one doing the convincing. The woman has buy-in from him by default. Lots of men don't pay, the ones that pay are the ones that know they have to, otherwise the woman won't spend time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:18 PM
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In the species where this is known to happen there's typically only 1 male in the group that counts, all the other males are undesirable. So there is no middle of the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:59 AM
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If she wants one of the sexy babies she doesn't really have a choice, she needs a male to protect/provision for her and the sexy male isn't going to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:39 AM
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promising sex = having babies. Only incidentally. The good baby would have already been conceived. She'd just have his to keep him around. a father who might kick out her good genetic baby, and then being tied to a bad genetic baby. He won't, or he won't get sex. He wants sex, he has to pay for sex because he doesn't have good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:27 AM
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It's a strategy to get the best of both worlds for the offspring. The more desirable males have the good genes so she wants to have a baby with them, but they aren't incentivized to commit to a female and provide protection/resources, he can just go get another female for free . The less desirable males don't have the good genes, so she doesn't really want to have a baby with them, but because she can get their protection/resources by offering sex. This happens in some animal species, my underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:04 AM
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What demographic are you looking at, cause men don't start dying off till later in life. So unless you plan on dating widows there are millions of extra men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:02 PM
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Strongly disagree. Women are just as superficial about looks and also require far more from a man before he's considered physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:56 PM
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Theoretically, yeah. Theoretically, no. There are more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:50 PM
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Women are just hard to impress. Women's reaction to most things you do is gonna be disinterest. Of course you're going to get more compliments from men, that's the case for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:20 PM
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Lose the fat and build muscle, those are the he most important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:12 PM
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These women are all ridiculously attractive, I wouldn't know how to use this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:09 PM
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The mistake you're making is thinking they care about men in the first place. It's the minority of men that have influence over women, they don't care about most of us at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:31 PM
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so you’d literally just date…anyone? Regardless of her morals or worldview? Is she a Nazi kkk member, probably not the case. Also these aren't "things to offer". I don’t know many guys that desperate. I'm sure you do. I think most men at first just want someone who likes them as a person an don't really care outside that. But, then they grow up and they realize they have to provide value for women to like them. The more attractive the woman the more you have to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:26 PM
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No. Depends on what "nothing" is. As long as she has a vagina that's good enough for a relationship. I have to work for access to women either way. I could only be with her if I've earned it, if hotter women are paying attention then I've earned more. Hotter women are harder to impress, and yes, this stratification is based primarily on looks, maybe socioeconomic status as a secondary thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:13 PM
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the woman who liked you when you had less Wouldn't have liked me if I had nothing. Had to work my way up to her too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:05 PM
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Most men I know are with the only woman that was interested in them. Looks are really the main thing I'm interested in, yes,. The way I see it you work to earn a woman anyway. You've reached a higher level of physical attractiveness or financial success and then you get access to a higher caliber of woman. These things take time to build, so if you're working on yourself you can get better women later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:57 PM
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How it works for me, and how it works for most men as far as I know. We don't really choose women, they choose use. So maybe I like her, maybe I don't, but It's not like I picked her from a set of women, there's no reality for me where that would be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:47 PM
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Either way. I'm only with her because I couldn't do better, now I can do better, I'm out. As long as it's easy to be out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:37 PM
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So what if you break up with your current gf and end up with a worse woman who treats you like shit but is hotter? Are you staying there? Until I get the next woman, yes. No you’re just getting more attention because you look better. You’ve been in a relationship in this scenario. Maybe you started wearing your hair different or you back more confident because you have a partner that’s enabling you to be bolder and seeing the benefits of it. Lol, absolutely does not work like this, but believe i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:24 PM
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I'm dating the most attractive partner I can get just like everyone else. women don't randomly start paying attention. If I'm getting more attention it's because I worked for it. Why should I waste my efforts? She needs to work on being hotter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:20 PM
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A girlfriend is just a girlfriend. I'm monkey branching out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:14 PM
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How much of a relationship do we have, do we live together? Shared assets? If not, I'm trading up if the opportunity comes. If I'm get attention from more attractive women it's because I've earned it. I
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 02:05 PM
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Similar question, why do so many of these young women rail against hypothetical men expecting them to cook, when they know damn well they don't know how to cook.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:17 PM
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By that point it's too late, she's already decided it's serious and anything less than marriage at that point means you're stringing her along, no matter how you answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 08:12 PM
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It's different to intentionally stringing someone along and waste their time discussing your future, wedding and kids while you're planning to ditch them any moment. Apparently if you're even nice to them, some women take that as a sign that you're planning to commit. If you're concerned about hurting her feelings, then no, there's no ethical way to date casually.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 07:45 PM
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I agree, for a non-insignificant number of men, women aren't interested anyway, doesn't matter if they're 40 or 24 they're going to have to buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:47 PM
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My advice would really be more for the husband hoping his wife is going to lose weight rather than the wife trying to lose weight. Your wife is probably not going to lose weight, so don't hold your breath. As for the wife, what choice does she have but to try? We all know how weight loss works, "eat less, move more", but chances are his wife isn't actually going to do that. And even if she does she'll probably regain it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:53 PM
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It’s insanely difficult to be obese and do all of this. It's definitely not, the easiest way is to just start obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:50 PM
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Doesn't really matter. I'd have to look up the stats , I'm not sure if the amount of weight to lose affects the odds of success. But either way, the vast majority of people don't succeed. So if you're a gambling man, don't bet that your wife is going to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:46 PM
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Do you know how skinny people are in some parts of the world? You're talking about something different. I said losing weight. If you're skinny you don't need to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:41 PM
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At 5% there's "hope" too, so you're just looking at it from a different perspective and coming to a bad conclusion. If 95% of people fail, why would this dude's wife be special?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:34 PM
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Look at you complicating it. I thought it was as simple as you put it. You now need to quantify your nut snacks. Cause nuts are calorie bombs and not a good choice if you're trying to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:33 PM
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Most people fail b/c they lack the discipline and regularity to see it though. Doesn't matter why, they still fail. It's probably not going to happen. There are also many people, you can see them on social media, There aren't many, there are a few relative to the number of failures, this is survivorship bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:29 PM
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You can definitely do this and be obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:26 PM
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Drop a hobby and go to the gym instead. If you'd usually play a video game, do the gym instead. You doubtless spend your time doing something, stop doing it and workout instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:25 PM
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This isn't something I'm making up, it true. 95% of people who try to lose weight fail, betting that your spouse is going to lose weight, is a bad bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:18 PM
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Men don't really need to be taught that they have no chance with women, they get to experience first hand that women have 0 interest in them, then they look for answers, then they find pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:13 PM
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Women want to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:10 PM
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If you want your wife to be fit, shouldn’t you provide her an opportunity to go to the gym by taking some tasks off her plate? Probabilistically it's not going to matter, being overweight is basically permanent for most people. Even though the mechanics are understood, no matter what you do 95% of people who try to lose weight fail or regain the weight within 10 years. If her physique is important to him, he may as well save his energy, it's probably not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:52 PM
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Losing weight basically doesn't happen in the real world. It's very rare. And people regain the weight more often than not even when they lose it (as she's already done). From the sounds of it, she's going to have to stop eating with her husband if she wants to get anywhere. Physical attraction is a core tenet of marriage, if she isn't appealing to him, she should work on it without any excuses. I agree, but trying to get her to lose weight is probably a waste of time, he should just leave, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:44 PM
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Statistically she's never going to lose the weight,and if she does she'll just regain it. If this is a problem for him, he may as well leave now. Also he sounds like he's in shape, doubtless this is part of the reason she is with him in the first place, I agree if this were gender swapped nobody would care. It would just be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:23 PM
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Men's feelings don't matter to women. I'm not sure y'all even think men have the .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:27 PM
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Not something to worry about. Were the tables turned a woman wouldn't think twice about doing the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:24 PM
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both parties involved know it's practice. So it's still practice, so practice relationships are a thing. Why is it so hard to just find someone who's on the same page? Because attracting women is hard, you have to do what you have to do. It's not like being a woman where you can just show up to a party and have 3 dudes interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:19 PM
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Believing a relationship wouldn't last long and hoping Idk if this hoping is necessarily happening, I don't think most girls with their highschool boyfriends are really looking to carry that relationship to college. "Practice" girlfriends are the same thing, except men are the active parties and so have to intentionally seek partners
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:14 PM
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Whether both parties know or not, people do enter relationships knowing they aren't going to last, effectively for no reason besides sex and something to do. So for the sake of practice effectively. I don't think people really discuss long term intentions, especially in such early relationships, they just implicitly expect them not to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:07 PM
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You think most people enter their first relationship thinking "this is only for practice, I'll dump him/her after I get the next one" Yes. Most people have absolutely no intention of being with their first partner forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:00 PM
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spend time around each other for months before you finally end up together". Or more likely she'll meet someone one night and start dating them by the end of the week. This is not a good approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:03 PM
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You can't get matches if you don't swipe right on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 11:51 PM
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If it's a challenge to find 5 attractive people then 80/20 is completely facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:13 PM
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I don't see how that's a challenge. Unless you're light speed ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:08 PM
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I assume people with a roster must not have a job, family or friends. This is such an exaggeration. How much time does it really take to shoot 1 line texts to 4-5 dudes basically begging for your attention 10 minutes a day? Then you're only interested in spending time with 1 or 2 of them anyway. Just something to do on the weekends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:31 PM
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Things have changed. There was a time when "going to the gym" meant treadmill and an aerobics class, the truly dedicated would throw in a couple of sets of curls and bench presses. Now we have regular old dudes talking about bulking and cutting cycles like they're trynna be Mr. Olympia. The internet changed the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:41 AM
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with low BF you'll have plenty of lean mass showing to spare. It's a lot different than 6' 160 and skinnyfat, Certainly not, that's probably pretty lean and not skinny. But, you have to remember not all men count to women. The obese ones don't even exist, so even though this is good shape. Lots of women will see it as nothing special (imo, I'm not a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:03 AM
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If you're in a state (assuming you're American) where obesity isn't as prevalent, 6' 160 lbs will honestly be a preferred body I think women want more muscle tbh. Depends on how hot she is of course. 6' 160lbs is probably good enough, I figure that's at like 10%bf, at that weight you wouldn't really be able to tell in clothes even if it was lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:56 AM
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The idea that 6 feet and 160 lbs is too skinny is fucking laughable and only holds up in certain parts of fat fuck America. Depends who you ask. That's definitely good shape, but I don't think it's good enough shape to impress an above average woman. The hoeflation is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:48 AM
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You literally just gotta be breathing (optional)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:06 PM
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What does this clarification change? I don't think it's a good thing to force people to stay in relationships they don't want to be in. If that's the point of marriage, it's not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:28 PM
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women definitely should pay for their own portion of the date. They definitely should show equal enthusiasm as the man in conversations as well as sharing the responsibility of initiating conversations, Why should they? There's 30 other men where that one came from. Men want it more so they have to put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:49 PM
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When she sees the decorations she'll buy it. Make bathing sexy again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:16 PM
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So what are you saying? Marriage is about forcing someone who doesn't want to be with you to stay with you? That's exactly why I'm against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:09 PM
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Throw a foam party as a pretence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:00 PM
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There are probably some. They aren't famous so nobody cares though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:27 PM
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Yeah bro I'll just become some roided gymc3l with zero interests and hobbies other Hentai, video games, podcasts and dumb YouTube life coachers just so I can have a shot to get my pp touched by some negative IQ bimbo. All women like the same things. The" roided gymcel" is going to make more money than you and fuck whatever type of bimbo you like while you waste your days in some college class. Prioritize what really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:53 PM
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, I've literally experienced having a higher sex drive than most men, EVERY SINGLE DAY, If that were true you wouldn't be asking this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:18 PM
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I don’t understand why people get new cars every other year and roll their payments over in an effort to access credit. To impress other people. The same reason they dress well or lift heavy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:04 PM
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I'm not. There's no such thing as a woman without suitors. Men like pussy too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:00 PM
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Is it women’s standards changing, the pandemic, a lack of connection and friendship between men All of the above. Women have a lot of options. Outcompeting all of them was always going to be an uphill battle, and not enough men have stepped up their game. The pandemic has fucked a lot of people up socially. Now a bunch of socially awkward dudesare forced to try and pull equally socially awkward women out of their shells, you can see how it's hard to get a date if you don't like leaving your hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:56 PM
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. I don't think most men would want to have sex with someone who weighs 500kg You aren't framing this correctly. I wonder why women don't get this. Would most men want to sleep with a 500kg woman? Not if they had another option. It's pretty bold to assume that a man would. The opportunity to have sex doesn't necessarily come along every day. If you don't sleep with the 500kg woman when offered, you never know when you're going to get another offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:49 PM
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Men like sex, men aren't only driven to have sex with special women. Only having sex with "high value" people is women's sexuality, not men's, as long as she's female, most straight men are ok sleeping with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:26 PM
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Nah people just get bored fucking the same person for years. Monogamy is a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:23 PM
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We stopped teaching them how to use looms, now they can't weave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:49 PM
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Because of the initial thing I said, they want a gf because that's the only way they can get sex, if more women were willing to just hookup with men that age, I have my doubts they'd have any interest in a relationship. This what they really want is someone to fuck them, not a relationship. Women seem less interested, because they're still dating around, because they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:31 PM
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Yes. That's what the women want to do, that's why they say wanting a relationship is desperate. You don't even know what a relationship is like. That you're just trying to weasel your way into some panties is transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:22 PM
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Find attractive is a low bar for women. As for "like", it doesn't take a genius to see you could like many girls. It's settling if you want to jump into a relationship as soon as one is made available. Relationships are meant to be commitments, if you're not dating around, what makes you sure, you want to commit to this one? Women know what's up, they only pretend not to get it, they know pretty much any girl will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:58 PM
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How much does that have to do with relationships being pretty much the only way to get sex. Do you think men your age would be interested in settling with one woman if they could date a new woman every week?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:48 PM
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pursue women in a more even handed environment There aren't any. Men are more interested in women than vice versa, this is true everywhere. OLD just let's all the women that would reject you anyway do so in bulk. Rather than you just never approaching them and deluding yourself into thinking you'd have had a chance if you did. Every woman has another option, you're always competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:56 PM
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Women are basically just like men, they just think most dudes are ugly. They act like teenage boys when they actually find someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:49 PM
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Aren't you like 15?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:45 PM
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Guess everything doesn’t come from anything. It doesn't matter. It's not like race, women haven't inherited disadvantages. Whatever exists now exists now. Whether or not women could vote in the past doesn't change anything. Everyone gets a mother and a father. There aren't going to be concrete issues from the past, at best you can wave vaguely at a vibe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:34 PM
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That dead women couldn't vote doesn't affect any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:16 PM
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What about the 100+ years they didn’t get ANY vote? Who cares? That doesn't change current conditions. They're still more important for a politician who wants to get reelected, thus pleasing the women is more important. "They" never lacked the ability to vote, dead women lacked the ability to vote, what's this stolen valor or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:10 PM
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They are more important because more of them vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:01 PM
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Trying to seduce women doesn't work, your external presentation is all they care about. There's no strength you can play to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:22 AM
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Women? They are the voters. No decision gets made without female support, and as a voting block women are more important than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:21 AM
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If men didn’t have to try this sub and the manosphere in general wouldn’t exist. What he's saying is trying doesn't work. You can't make a woman like you. They take one look and decide if they'd fuck you or not, there's no impressing them or winning them over with your cool hobbies or shining personality, just go to the gym, and get money for status symbols like clothes and cars, that's all you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:09 AM
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Idk if I'd describe a pump as a high. Runner's high is absolutely euphoric. The problem is you have to do cardio until you're good at it, and cardio is the absolute worst when you're out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:33 AM
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after im done working out im kind of just tired and aggravated for a while. i I figure this what most people experience, you really only feel the high of your conditioning is up and based on what I've seen of modern gym trends people don't like cardio anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:27 AM
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Runner's high is better than any drug. Idk if you're describing the same thing. The only problem is you have to be fit to really appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:24 AM
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It seems that a lot of older couples are happy with having an average partner Are they indeed? why is it so terrible now? Social media, everyone will know your spouse is mid, how embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:49 AM
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I think cheating is just more exciting for women. Women cheat with an upgrade. Men cheat because a hole was made available usually, it's less to write home about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:46 AM
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Being homeless is hard, both men and women would make the same decision in this scenario, that marriage is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:43 AM
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It's so easy for women to look like this, just wash your face and the estrogen takes over, but they can't even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:16 PM
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Up to you. Steak probably makes you seem cooler, but if you're good looking nobody is going to care what you order.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:46 PM
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I'm sure you've heard "not fat" 1000 times. Men aren't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:43 PM
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Most of the skinny girls I've been close enough with to talk about it had iron problems. I figure someone with the same observation just associates low iron levels with skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:40 PM
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Yes, but in my experience if she's not interested in sleeping with me on the first date, she is not going to be interested in general. Y'all really do it to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:04 PM
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How morally wrong is it to for guys to get a “starter girlfriend” or to date women that they’re not 100% head-over-heels into Do what you have to do. Remember if the shoe was on the other foot she wouldn't hesitate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:09 PM
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Would you not feel offended It wouldn't matter, because I'm sure it would be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:52 PM
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leave you alone with my niece for a couple hours and then a week later ask you if you sexually assaulted her A pointless question, if I did would I admit it? If you had a test that could tell for certain I assaulted her, there's no doubt in my mind I'd be asked to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:46 PM
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Women want to believe that relationships come about through special magical connections. In truth relationships occur for very robotic, predictable and unromantic reasons. You saw him and thought he was hot, he lives near you and he's single. It's really not anything more than that. But, that doesn't feel good to think about, so we have to invent concepts like spark and vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:23 PM
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Don't confess your feelings, she's not interested, if she was you'd know. You're just making her uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:17 PM
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It seems in here that guys are wanting relationships in their 20s or younger where as a lot of women are not ready for them until their 30s, which seems to cause mismatches in timing. Marketing. It's women that complain about lack of men willing to commit to serious relationships, so men brand themselves as looking for serious relationships to meet those demands. Both men and women are mistaken though, there isn't really a shortage of either men or women willing to commit. There's a shortage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:49 PM
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It's possible to meet your partner doing this, but the ROI doesn't seem as good to me. ROI isn't good on anything. This is how most relationships are started these days. Bars and online dating are the top 2 methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:48 PM
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I advocate avoiding cold approach at all costs. That's not viable forever. You aren't always gonna have people around you. Most of the intergender mixing happens at school and that doesn't last forever. At some point you kinda just have to go find a stranger. But meeting girls can be bypassed because he has friends(like me) Depends on how he's introduced, I'll take it you know what you're doing. If you make him seem like a pet no woman is going to want him. Instead, make sure you find yourself i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:29 PM
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This is why you have lots of varied friends with different friends to introduce you to. I met this girl because of a highschool friend Ok? That's you that's not your friend. He's still bad with women. Talking to a woman isn't really evidence of anything is what I was getting at. Getting women to talk to you in the first place is the real challenge. I understand that actually holding a conversation may have been your friend's problem. But I don't know if that's really the most common problem for …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 06:05 PM
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I don’t think most people find dates from meeting strangers though? They do. Besides unless you get lucky you have to. If you try your hand with 1 or 2 women in a friend group, that friend group is now exhausted effectively and you'll have to go find a new one, which is a much bigger challenge than just talking to someone who's already invested. The fact that they chatted the whole night and went partying with us even though they had no obligation to counted for something though. Unless she deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:45 PM
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This your friend still effectively doesn't know how to talk to women. He basically talked to a woman on training wheels. He's going to have to go somehow find more women if he wants to date. Which is probably going to require being a stranger, which is harder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:34 PM
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You having a woman you already know for him to talk to makes it a lot easier. She was never gonna just blow off your friend. That's exactly what a strange woman at the bar would do though. Basically look at him like he doesn't belong in polite society, then get away from the conversation as quickly as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:30 PM
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I think physical touch is viewed as less serious if a man isn't involved. I think men are less likely to care if their partner cheats with a woman for example. Female touching is just girls being girls. I can think of a couple of my friends that have been uncomfortable with how much touching their partners did with their female friends. It can be a little much depending on the women. Probably a little further than is probably appropriate in some cases
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:59 PM
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Every single one was like talking to a brick wall, This is what it's like talking to women that don't want you . This is the real reason men and women can't really be friends, women don't want to interact with men they don't want sexually. They'll then project that unto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:09 PM
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My mom hinted that she she thinks im gay when im not because I havent brought a girl home yet. My mom did the same when I was a teenager. I'm also fairly certain I wouldn't have been allowed to bring home a girl even if I could get one, so the point was basically moot. Mothers cannot be explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:31 AM
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I can just sleep with CEOs daughter to get a job right? Unironically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:45 PM
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Looks are what really matter, ask anyone who's lost a significant amount of weight. Nobody gives a fuck about anything else, whatever traits they claim to like. They'll just say you have them if they like your looks.it doesn't matter what your personality is like. I've had conversations with women where they clearly have no interest in what I have to say, they're just waiting on Mr to stop talking so we can make out. Before I lost weight it was largely the same, except they were waiting for me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:35 PM
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Religious women tend to be the virgins and they don't typically believe in divorce. Some, definitely not the norm even in religious circles. I doubt religious women even have higher rates of late virginity than the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:20 PM
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Whether or not your other qualities are considered good or bad is going to be influenced by your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:33 PM
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If I were to guess it's probably when you aren't surrounded by people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:42 AM
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Many colleges aren't going to grill you on every aspect of yourself, especially not your looks Depends on the caliber of college, I meant your application has to basically make you look flawless. I genuinely think a woman who is even moderately attractive is more competitive than the ivy League, so of course you have to work a lot on yourself, there's a lot of men looking for women and not enough women for all of them, so you have to present yourself like you're perfect, or someone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:05 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:53 PM
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What if that ? Sometimes things happen. They would just be a thing that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:47 PM
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People are complicated,, hard to say what they will do, her own conscience might just stop that, but she may just trade up, she also may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:43 PM
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Then it's her decision it's hard to predict with certainty what a person will do, but an upgrade in every way and nothing in the relationship she's afraid of losing? If I were to bet I'd say she trade up. But you don't know what's in other people's heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:38 PM
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But what if the chance to trade up, or at the very least mate with more sexually attractive male, is there? Wouldn't she take it? This is not without risk or cost. You already have a relationship and shared things/people shed have to give up, the other guy might just pump and dump her. Depends on the risk/reward calculation on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:09 PM
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think there's a subconscious belief that one must be "flawless" to be dating at all, if not to be selected as a partner. This is basically the case, as a man you have a lot of competition. You don't need to be flawless to get into a good college, but you have to at least appear flawless. There's a million other people vying for the position.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:53 PM
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Your job is the second most important thing about you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:58 PM
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You go on a date with a cute girl. This was basically enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:39 PM
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No weirder than being a Christian. I'd actually be interested in hearing where she got this dragon idea, women already believe all kinds of obviously untrue shit, at least this is a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:11 PM
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M...me too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:06 PM
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Maybe, probably not. You're on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:58 PM
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This scenario would be ludacris if the genders were reversed Debating whether or not a man should stay home or work for 1/4 the income? The answer is neither, that man better find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:59 AM
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I make a million dollars a year, why is she bothering to work? Just stay home, she doesn't need to stress herself out unnecessarily. We can afford house keeping too. I'd probably just like if she cooks, but I wouldn't even demand that. That amount of income destroys any pretence the relationship can be 50/50, it's my world, she's just living in it. Would prefer if she didn't work, simply because she wouldn't need to. If she wants to do the 9-5 I'm not her boss, but what's the point of her contri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:43 AM
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You have to do women things like art or pottery, book clubs about fiction books or dance. In my experience most women don't real do anything besides work and watch TV though, so yeah the women aren't outside in any large numbers either, you meet women online now, or if you're young and hot you can go clubbing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:21 AM
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I understand why dudes don't have standards, getting women to fuck you can be hard . The 19-21 BMI guy is right though, sex with fat chicks is worse than just jerking. When you're in the midst of the neverending drought, it feels bad though, any port is good for a storm. If not for my last relationship, I think I'd also accept anything. I actually dreaded meeting for sex, better to be single imo, there's so much porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:41 PM
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I've been in 4 relationships 3 lasted 2 years and my last one was a little less than a year. I've kinda lost interest now, I wasn't attracted to my last girlfriend at all, made the relationship a chore. If I can't up the quality of partner I can get now, I don't want one. In pill speak I'm now Stacy only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:30 PM
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I'm old now, the bulk of my approaching was done as a teenager, at some point I kinda stopped when I realized it doesn't really work out. Most women aren't interested and if they were it would be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:24 PM
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Less than 50 probably. Success rate is probably sub 10% I don't keep a spreadsheet though so idk. This isn't counting OLD, cause as we all know that OLD isn't worth thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:19 PM
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If you've got money you can do Europe tour or do Japan. If you have a more limited budget the Caribbean is cheaper I'd recommend Jamaica, Cuba or Trinidad, I've been to all 3 and the people are super friendly and laid back
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:41 PM
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Depends on if you have your money up or your funny up and what languages you're comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:32 PM
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Both are good, if I can get the sex more than once then I'll take it, if it's just one off I'd prefer the sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:33 PM
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Obesity isn't genetic It definitely is. If your parents are obese odds are you're also going to be obese. Though I guess you're right it's not the obesity itself that's genetic. But eating habits are inherited and satiety signaling is probably genetic. It's not genetic in the sense that you can't do anything about it, but most obese people were set on the path to obesity on the day they were born. Like with most things in life the most important decision you can make is choosing the right parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:10 PM
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Men are satisfied with a lot less than women are. If you have food and a place to sleep, the only reason you need more is because women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:59 PM
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Burn victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:16 PM
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The bar is low for some attributes and high for others. If you're confused you're missing the ones the bar is high for. You only hear women complain about the lower bars because they aren't dating people who don't meet the higher bars. Thus they aren't having poor experiences in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:42 PM
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they feel guilty about dating someone who is mentally/socially underdeveloped. They're lying, it just turns them off. They don't feel guilty
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:12 PM
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Romantic partners are unreliable. Everyone is only with their partner because it's the best they can do. People trade up when they can, relationships like that aren't worth sacrificing strong friendships for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:02 PM
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Romantic partners are unreliable, both men and women.most of them are more accessories than they are genuine relationships. People trade up when they can, friendships are worth more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:00 PM
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As if she's cooking for him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:38 PM
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You're objectively worse than Google. Let's see how supportive you are when he has an actual problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:13 PM
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I’m out here sharing my healthy, high-protein diet hacks and bringing homemade protein-rich meals to my only male friend to assist with his fitness goals The fact that you think this is peak friendship, just illustrates that women make poor friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:05 PM
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I should drop my best friend for a woman that's going to break up with me the moment some hot guy smiles at her?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:01 PM
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Women aren't keen on having male friends, they have male friends because men are keen on socializing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:21 PM
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But, that doesn't change your actual competence. I thought you meant that physical appearance changes how competent you are. Physical appearance does affect your actual personality, not just the perception of it. I think it's pretty easy to understand why someone who's been treated well and welcomed their entire life based on their physical appearance is going to have a sunnier disposition than someone who hasn't. With competence, I don't see how actual competence would change, I do get that per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:36 AM
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I see you aren't familiar with the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:18 AM
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It definitely is, it's just that stage ready physiques are pretty much the equivalent of a woman just being skinny, so of course is harder for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:11 AM
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That's insufficient for men, women are pickier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:08 AM
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70% of the US is overweight. 41% are obese....So, pushing half the population are clinically obese. This. The people who say they want a healthy (19-21 BMI) woman don't realize that's a pretty high bar today. You need to be very attractive to get such a woman, because she's a rare commodity, increasingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:53 PM
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Personality I get. I don't see how they would affect competency. Guess it depends on which competencies you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:44 PM
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If it wasn't for sex drive why would we have romantic relationships? I've seen a few women ask similar questions, and Im honestly confused as to why they think men bother with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:39 PM
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Cock holster is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:02 PM
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I think men have standards, I just think those standards are largely irrelevant, most men will never really be turning anyone away based on their standards. Women do the selection, not men. Men don't pick, they get picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:35 PM
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Dodge carbs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:21 PM
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I firmly believe this height thing for women is just about status. They need to compete with their friends, they want their man taller than their friend's man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:20 PM
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why do you never seem to see them complaining about it? Because they have a dozen other suitors in waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:16 PM
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I think men value look more than personality, just like women do. I think more women meet the looks threshold for men though, so personality comes into play more for men. Dating my female friends always sounds like the ideal scenario, but women definitely show more interest in men they don't know than men they already do, that's how I know "the get to know her first" thing is complete bullshit. Women's idea of getting to know her is having one conversation while being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:27 PM
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Woman aren't generally interested in male friends. Unironically if they don't like you, or they aren't forced into your social circle, it's easier talking to walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:14 PM
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So again, do all these women secretly want to fuck me? is that what you’re saying? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:10 PM
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I don't know why I'd have to spell it that every interaction isn't identical. Women don't make friends with men, men make friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:09 PM
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It doesn't sound ridiculous to me at all. If I talk to a woman and she seems at all interested in conversation, then she wants to fuck. Otherwise they act like they'd rather be anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:59 PM
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In fact, there are loads of guys you see and think I don't. Maybe you do. I've never seen this, I've only heard people claim to see it. Chemistry depends a lot on whether the other party is interested in interacting with you, and women tend to be standoffish by default unless they want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:52 PM
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"only" is very limiting. Chemistry depends on looks, and id argue looks contribute more than any other trait. Attractive people get positive traits projected unto them. Once someone is attractive potential partners project whatever traits they desire unto them, once you're hot you're also smart and funny and kind by default. Whatever another person is looking for they're going to claim you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:05 PM
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It is true. When people go on dates and say they felt a "spark" they just mean the person was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:00 PM
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Spark / chemistry / butterflies is not only looks Lol. I wish more people could experience life on opposite sides of the attractiveness spectrum. Those things are all euphemisms for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:53 PM
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It's not hard to understand. You like your friends and you spend a lot of time with them, the only thing stopping those relationships from being romantic is physical attraction. Men are physically attracted to most women they come across, so they'd gladly date their female friends, women don't find most men very attractive, so chances are they don't find their friends attractive. If she did find one attractive she'd be dating him, they would never become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:49 PM
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Moderately attractive is becoming increasingly rare. She also has big tits for her frame, which isn't a common genetic gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:21 PM
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I understand that women are afraid of men. They tend to deny it for the sake of argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:40 PM
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Blood work has to be done because you're gonna fuck with their hormones, just like with TRT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:39 AM
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I think most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex and taking things slow when it comes to intimacy, the problem is we're terrified of ending up in friendzone land if we don't make any moves. I think so too, but I don't think this opinion is actually unpopular. The waiting thing always confuses me, because women are always in a rush for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:37 AM
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When making these determination are hormones and brain structures examined? I've never heard of such, but maybe they happen privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:34 AM
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I ignored it because I have no idea, who that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:33 AM
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Even if I believed this (which I don't) these measures aren't used to determine if someone is trans, so why do they even matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:31 AM
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Okay sure. But muscles really aren’t that big of a factor They are. Timothée Chalamet doesn’t have any muscles, and yet I haven’t met a girl who wouldn’t date him. I've never seen a prettier man, nobody looks like him, doesn't that seem a little disingenuous to bring up ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:27 AM
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The science says that trans kids have brains and hormones that do not align with their assigned gender. Brains I don't know anything about, is your claim here that there is a physical difference between the brains of trans kids and non-trans kids, because that doesn't sound believable. If this were the case then you could tell someone was trans using a medical exam which I've never heard of. As for hormones that's definitely not the case. If a girl had hormones that aligned with a teenage boy pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:26 AM
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You asked what it had to do with dating, the answer is muscle. Muscle mass is a pretty big factor in determining whether or not you'll get a date so you could look at building muscle mass as a dating expense if you otherwise wouldn't be investing in it. Just explaining the thought process since you said you didn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:21 AM
3

You can use the gambler analogy to describe being a beggar, you already have the outline.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:20 AM
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You sound like you'd love being a beggar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:17 AM
3

Workout. In the long run it'll have the biggest impact on your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:17 PM
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The implication is that he's buying meat to build muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:53 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:23 PM
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I was at a party, though I didn't really party, just drank. I wasn't in the mood to dance. White girls were hot though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:55 PM
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They aren't trying to "build a connection" at that stage. They're just hedging their bets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:54 PM
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Women seem to believe sex is detrimental to women. Find me the man that complains about being "used for sex", women seem to think it's worse than murder to fuck them and then not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:34 PM
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Yes, for the most part "situationships" are women waiting for a guy who either has no interest or is trying to see if he can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:33 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:23 PM
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Imagine being a southern elephant seal tho. The difference is they don't have to live so long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:14 PM
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Your Tren is too cheap and your creatine too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:53 PM
3

Accept that men only use women for sex because they have nothing else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:51 PM
2

Yet when I say "just jerk off and do drugs" I'm a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:35 PM
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Women have to cope about different things. Chances are their partner has a "dad bod" and for some reason women feel the need to justify their mate choices, so they have to say "dad bods" are sexy otherwise, they'd have to implicitly admit they aren't attracted to their partners. Which I figure many aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:03 PM
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I figure women are just coping out loud
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:59 PM
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It happens, I don't know if it's common and I doubt it is, but it does happen. Women's sexuality does appear to be more malleable than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:58 PM
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She's not gay, she's bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:48 PM
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These are social enforcements. There are many things we wouldn't do if not for societal expectations. Turns out we live in a society. You don't just sit at someone else's table when you go to a restaurant I reckon, you do what is expected of you just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:43 PM
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None of you stupid monkeys would do that shit if it wasn't the societal standard. This is true of all monetary payment, so what's the real point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:26 PM
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That's a luxury most people can't afford, not only the cost of college, but the 4 years of no/reduced earning while in college has to have a financial payoff for most people. They can't afford to dick around and spend that much money just out of curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:54 PM
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The words you choose betray that it's about external validation. Everyone equates being healthy to looking healthy and the focus is solely on appearance "a six pack" is completely a vanity measure. Nobody is doing that for themselves unless they plan on jerking off to themselves in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:50 PM
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You don't need an art degree to make art. People get degrees to get jobs, not to gain knowledge. If a degree doesn't land you employment that helps you pay for it then it's actually worse than worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:11 AM
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because average Joe guys who age in an average way usually aren’t really hot to 20 year olds. Just like they weren't at 18, and weren't at 20 and weren't at 30 and won't be at 50. Women don't find many men "hot", so the proposition is that older age you can negotiate with other things, since women never did and never will find you hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 03:04 AM
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She's not. If she's not, then there's no discussion to be had here. I don't find that to be the case usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:08 PM
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Considering she's living in an RSO apartment Not a fact based on what you posted, she was intimidated first and then made this guess based on the fact that she was intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:06 PM
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Not what she wants. Faulty assumption in my experience. I don't think shut ins necessarily dislike people, they're just not good at forming connections. They may actually like being around people very much. Someone more socially active, comes with a social life that she's missing and may crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:03 PM
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She can get someone who's more socially outgoing, because men have lower standards than women. There's no reason she should settle for someone with no real social circle, when she can have someone with an active social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:51 PM
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yelling "hello's" in the way men do to intimidate women. This isn't a thing btw, women misinterpret so many things. Dudes saying hello are trying to be friendly, they aren't trying to intimidate her. They can't control that she's afraid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:49 PM
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Same reason to go to bars and clubs, it's something to do. You get to drink and get and be around other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:46 PM
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The female shut in can do better, that's the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:38 PM
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If men could casually sleep with attractive women with the same ease as women casually sleep with attractive men, this subreddit wouldn’t exist Monogamy would be very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:37 PM
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Women are naturally less visual than men in their attraction. Where does this propaganda come from? It's not true. Physical appearance is the primary thing women are concerned with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:48 PM
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On online dating women talk as if they don't know what's in their own bios. Nothing apart from getting them off the app is worth even a second of your time. I swear women had to be genetically engineered, it can't be natural
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:20 AM
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What a coincidence, that's what all the man haters say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:05 AM
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They never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:59 AM
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I left the best of me in 2003
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:59 AM
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It falls flat, because the advice on "being your best self" is always exactly the same as it would be if the you were advising "emulate the hottest person you know". The advice is always work on your external appearance and in your case, "the skills that make money" so not your league of legends combos. So nothing to do with yourself, completely about impressing other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:57 AM
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But do it to make yourself feel good This advice always sounded like it doesn't mean anything. If you lazily eat junk food all day, that's already what makes you feel good. To change that behavior is going to be uncomfortable, there's no way to square making yourself uncomfortable to make yourself feel good in a way that makes sense, the impetuous is obviously coming from external feedback, that's why the advice for "being your best self" is never "practice your League of Legends combos", it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:04 AM
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In my experience, most women have a varied taste in the "type" of man they find attractive I don't have the same experience, I'd say this is more true of me, and even there, not really. Women are all attracted to the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:51 AM
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There's nothing immoral about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:19 PM
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My challenge to your view is that casual sex is rarely ever actually casual. If two people are having sex, one is more likely than not emotionally invested in the other, even if it's not mutual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:59 PM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:06 PM
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Lol, it's really not such a big deal. Words don't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:55 PM
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I can bet Gorlock gets laid regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:47 PM
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It's best to act as if women don't have agency. That's how they treat themselves, so that's the mind set it's best to hold when dealing with them, they can't think for themselves, anything they do is your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:22 PM
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They're waiting till they have someone else lined up so they don't have to be single long. Idk who told these women they were slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:19 PM
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Older women are definitely easier to manipulate. When it comes down to it. Especially when they realize they're one of the last single/childless people In their friend group. They get desperate. Younger women have higher standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:41 PM
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I always thought that the preference for much younger women came from the fact that usually (not always) younger women could be more easily manipulated too. This idea comes from jealous women coping. Younger women are just hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:28 PM
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Is chasing or actively pursuing women ever worth it? All of my successful romantic pursuits have been entirely reciprocal from the start, Same, if a woman likes you, you don't have to put in any effort at all, she'll do all the work, you can just be chill. If you find yourself trying to win her over there's no hope. This is the real reason they say "the bar is in hell" if they actually like you, they will accept literally however you treat them. Unironically if a woman actually likes you, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:36 PM
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I love that a shrug counts as subjugation. By that metric women subjugate the fuck out of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:32 PM
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Lol, so he's an internet tough guy in addition to being ugly? No wonder you don't want to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:14 PM
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The only correct pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:11 PM
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They aren't here, you don't have to be nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:04 PM
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Look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:51 PM
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"blue pill doesn't say that" This is the only answer you can get. Because anyone who says dating is all about your interpersonal relationship is wrong. So there's no way to say it's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:48 PM
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Go drinking tonight and you'll see plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:08 PM
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Women don't seem to have the same impulse, at least not towards me. They do. The attractive part is usually what's missing. If a woman finds you attractive she'd just date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:37 AM
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If there were no financial/physical/social implications for having sex don’t you think women would be much more open to it and less selective? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:54 AM
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Yes I would be. I have been approached by gay guys before and it does make me feel like maybe I'm not as hideous as I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 01:21 AM
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Men are chiller about literally everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:23 PM
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if someone lies to you and says they really like you Maybe he really likes a lot of people. Anyway that is not a commitment, he's not using you for sex you chose to have sex. You could have demanded commitment first, but women don't do that, because they know the answer is more likely to be no, they often use sex as a manipulation tactic. That's why the "what are we?" bullshit always comes out after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:45 PM
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What women do is wait until you've had sex and then insist on commitment. They think you're obliged after you've had sex, that way if you don't agree they get to say you used her for sex. The covert contract stuff you hear them complain about sometimes is straight projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:38 PM
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Use the money to attract a healthy (19-21 BMI) golddigger
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:42 PM
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My mom, never made that claim lol. I think it's pretty clear she wasn't punishing herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:55 PM
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Married couples are eligible for tax deductions meaning they pay less in taxes. It's the reason half the people on this forum site for getting married. That's the opposite of taxation and social assistance systems work. These systems have no logic. The government literally just takes as much money as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:57 PM
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It makes sense, women are more likely to use government assistance, so like with insurance they should really pay a higher rate. Really isn't how taxation works though, the government just taxes us as much as it can get away with. Single people are literally being punished for being single, they aren't trying to punish women for being female. It wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:45 PM
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Hence why we don't need abortions, just don't be dumb and get pregnant lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:33 PM
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If you're unattractive there's no appropriate place, if you're attractive then any place is appropriate. You're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:15 PM
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If you'd ever seen what a conversation is like between a man and a woman that's not attracted to him you'd understand why. To be friends with women it has to be part of a group dynamic where she's attracted to someone in the group, otherwise talking to her is gonna feel like talking to a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:43 AM
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I don't need to go over this again. inability to open jars implies an inability to do a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 10:36 PM
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$30 is $30. Your tiktok quote is just wrong. There's a lot of things men can do that women can't, at least on average. There's also the element of not wanting to do certain things. Women just straight up want men to do some things for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:22 PM
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I'll repeat, y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:44 PM
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"how hard can it be, boys do it?" Harder than you can accomplish is the apparent answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:40 PM
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You mean you can go get a man to do it lol. Kinda goes against what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:35 PM
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Women talk a lot, they'll actually compromise on their entire list once they realize their entire friend group is already married and they feel left out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:16 PM
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Because women get more desperate and start changing what they value, and they're gonna age too. The ones that think they're gonna start fucking 18 year olds are delusional. Despite the coping older women are actually easier and accept less than their younger more desirable counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:12 PM
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It's clearly not infeasible, just ship them to the military. With having to produce a child, the government is not going to pay for that produced child. They are also not going to provide a mate. They would have to similarly conscript women and force them to reproduce too. People were already faking injuries to dodge the draft, it would be super easy to fake "can't get laid" to dodge mandatory reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:54 PM
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I don't doubt someone would suggest this, but it would be infeasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:57 PM
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If you can't open jars, you're gonna have trouble with nuts, bolts and hammers. So I'm not sure where you missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:27 PM
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am honestly starting to think more likely that it's more a cure 'most' than not. Access to women is a cure, because lack of access to women is the problem. Arm chair psychologists on the internet, want to pull other causes out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:38 PM
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I've seen the same. Just about every man I know that didn't have girls jumping them before the age of 13 was into the incel/Redpill shit, then often when they get a girlfriend their outlook changes. They either look back at the time as just immature blundering years or they develop selective amnesia.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:23 PM
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Everything is boring if the other person isn't interested. Whether or not they're interested is going to be influenced by whether or not they want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:26 PM
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Yes and you can name pretty much every cannibal in modern history. It's not a thing many people derive any enjoyment or see any gain in. Murders happen all the time, there are more murderers than you can count. There are common motivations to rape and murder, there aren't really any common motivations for cannibalism. Most people who would go out of their way to kill someone aren't going to eat them, why would they? You came up with at least 3 reasons why rapes occur commonly, those are the same…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:52 PM
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Look at all those reasons you came up with for why rape might happen. That's why it's not like cannibalism, there's nothing to be gained for anyone from cannibalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:02 PM
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It's rare that you're going to find someone who drives any sort of pleasure from eating people. Pretty much everyone with a dick likes sticking it in flesh holes. Sure if you had starving people I'm sure they'd be bigger on cannibalism, but starvation isn't common in modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:24 PM
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It's already as taboo as it can be, it's a crime that socially is considered worse than murder, people do things for their own reasons, the reason we have more rape than cannibalism is that nobody really gets anything out of cannibalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 05:55 PM
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No matter how you slice it the government gets to decide what it's ok to do to my own body. If self mutilation can be declared a sign of mental illness I can just declare terminating a fetus to be the same. It's not objective fact, it's an arbitrary decision. You make any number of similar arguments for abortion. Is it abortion that's forbidden or the medical procures for inducing abortion, I can throw up a level of abstraction anywhere just like you did. At the end of the day nobody really has …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:55 PM
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And none of that justifies the fact that women have lost the right to decide if their body is owned by them. Nobody really owns their body. We are all effectively owned by our government. If it's your body you should be allowed to drug and mutilate yourself as much as you want. But, you aren't. We've all been forced into effectively a tyrannical system by virtue of being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:40 PM
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Do you think rape will exist forever? That it will never stop? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:36 PM
2

Y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:23 AM
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Y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:23 AM
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Why not import immigrant engineers? They do, but it costs time and money to become an engineer. Immigrants have less of both than people from richer countries. And there's a higher bar for proof of skill. You can pick basically any woman from a poor country and she'd be a half competent caretaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:11 AM
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You see the (cute) in the title. Most male attention doesn't matter to them. There's no way to translate it to getting attention from women. It's like you getting attention from a gay man. Women aren't really attracted to men the way men are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:47 PM
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Even if he was religious he's probably not going to find a religious woman that is actually a virgin. Even if he does find someone that's waiting for marriage odds are that she is waiting now not that she never had sex. She may consider it a mistake in hindsight, but if she has a sex drive she would have to resist a decade of temptation, which few people are going to do successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:54 PM
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I'd count that as a hangup. And you'd have to marry her, which I don't know that virgin men are necessarily in the same headspace.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:47 PM
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None of these things would stop a woman having sex if she wanted it, if she's in her late 20s people have been offering her dick for over a decade. This is without exception, the only explanation could be that she has some sexual hangups and doesn't want sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:39 PM
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If an older woman had any interest in sex at all why would she be a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:29 PM
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I believe we become a bit too cold and calculating. We always have been, people are loved for the value they provide. Nobody asks "what do your siblings bring to the table" They are forced up on you by circumstances of birth, you don't have to add them to your life, they're already there. When someone asks what you bring to the table they're asking why they should bother to form a relationship with you at all. Nobody loves anyone for who they are, that's not how it works. I don't understand how …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:24 PM
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You assume I believe in asexuals. Anyway just because people are in relationships doesn't mean they're "in love"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:41 PM
2

It definitely can be. Love is just how people feel about hot people they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:33 PM
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Then your checklist didn't have the things you actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:30 PM
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Do you guys not have feelings? You can use numbers and checklists to predict what a person's feelings are going to be. You're going to develop feelings for a person who hits the checklists and scores, you don't have to consciously think about the scoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:23 PM
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and the amount of women who PHYSICALLY and sexually harass him might shock a blue haired feminist, It wouldn't shock them, they don't see it as a big deal. Women are just like men when they see someone they're actually attracted to, it's just rare for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:16 PM
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Now this is not me saying, Just suggesting. Preface culture needs to stop, say it with your chest: "y'all should gaslight these bitches"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:12 PM
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But we all know you’d still complain about those women even if they didn’t blame you Do we all know that? I like to think of myself as very fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:06 PM
1

A millionaire if you're pretty and not fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:03 PM
2

Sure, but then you can't go blaming unattractive men for what an attractive few men are doing. This is the default talking to women about dating though. You don't get to share the pussy, but you get to share the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:42 PM
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They have to get used to it. The fact that they even have this complaint means they're unremarkable. We all have to work with what's given to us. Also fatherless families are created by the desirable men, not the undesirable ones. The communities with the highest rates of single motherhood also have the highest rates of childless men. Women would just rather be baby momma #2 or #3 than sacrifice the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:34 PM
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She didn't have to do anything, she could have just said "I likes you and I wants you". Women don't need game and they already get enough attention without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:32 PM
3

You get good at running by running. Running a marathon a week isn't going to come close to outpacing a junk food diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:53 PM
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She is very attractive. Yet she also kinda looks like someone you'd meet in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:57 PM
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Why don’t men care? Because women don't find most men attractive anyway. They aren't really losing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:21 AM
3

I imagine they realize they're never going to get who they really want and rent is high + they want kids/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:40 PM
1

Every 2 days, or if I'm leaving the house. Before wfh I used to shower every day. I take long showers because the shower is where I brood.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:39 PM
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Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore. Everyone knows what's up, only women think being described as "good" is still a positive thing. If you can only think to say "good" it means the dude is unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:35 PM
1

For me I can't stick to weight loss unless I think about it literally all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:29 PM
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I’m a good guy I've heard more women saying this about men than men saying it about themselves. At this point everyone knows "good guy" is code for unattractive and boring. When someone is called "a good guy" it's low-key a way of saying you feel sorry for them, because they're nice to you, but you wouldn't fuck them if your life depends on it. To me it usually sounds like the hope is that someone else would fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:28 PM
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Legally no, but women start having sex before 18 though. If you're a 22 year old late bloomer most 18 year old women probably have more "experience" than you ever will. You have better odds of finding what you're looking for of course, but there are no guarantees, the ship has sailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:11 PM
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That's an absolute.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:01 PM
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The best option is to focus on your career and finances and be in a place where you can go overseas to find a decent younger woman Women are women wherever you go. Unless you want to be a predator you missed the innocent puppy love train already, you're not going to get it. You'll just have to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:59 PM
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how are there childless women at that age range who still claim they can't find a man? Always bullshit, a woman can always find a man. They just want a rich, tall, good looking man and the ones they're meeting are too poor, too short or too ugly for their taste. The answer is always they don't want the men that want them and the men they want don't want them back. I have never known a woman that didn't have somebody trying to get with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:05 PM
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Porn isn't the only factor introduced by the internet. I don't know if you've noticed the number of young men who feel like women don't want anything to do with them. They've also been programmed by women on social media who keep saying they just want to be left alone. Whether it's the most common opinion or not, the most broadcast opinion is that women don't want men to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:56 PM
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Rule 1 and Rule 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:41 PM
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Depends on what you consider expensive. It can definitely be less than what some fit people are spending. But 4000 calories of burger king is gonna be $60. $60 a day is gonna be a lot. Granted you don't have to eat like that every day to be fat
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:14 PM
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Just answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:05 PM
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Most people aren't really with their first choice of partner, especially not men. Given men are the more active party in the courtship dance, whoever they end up with is more likely going to be after things didn't work out higher up the preference list. Which is not to say people aren't happy, but most people are with their betabux(or betasex or whatever) imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:19 PM
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No one yet. I've been given a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:05 PM
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Men can be abusers, serial killers, paedophiles, commit genocide These things don't describe a personality. The woman on here would assert that an attractive personality is outgoing, charismatic and funny. You can be a charismatic serial killer, there isn't a contradiction. Looks are more important all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:42 PM
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What woman has ever said that looks don’t matter at all? A woman that's trying to win an argument. Some women on here will say literally anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:27 PM
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The answer is porn. Women ask for it, because they think men want it, because that's what they see it in porn. Same happens for things with reversed genders. All of sudden everyone is into choking, it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:12 PM
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It was extremely popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 04:12 PM
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This is nothing compared to the women who decide to become baby mama #3 to a man with 2 kids from 2 different women already.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 03:57 PM
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And they'll get a relationship if they want it. It's still more of a want than a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:19 PM
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Who built the structures you reside in? Who enforces the law? Good men are what keeps bad men in check This probably isn't what they thought was meant to be fair. Plus they're mostly drunk and it's sprung on them without context, they aren't thinking that deep. They just mean they don't need a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:32 PM
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The internet is the source of your confusion. Everyone has limitless information, so we can now hyper optimize everything, including our relationships and partners. Everyone is aware of where they and their partners stand in the dating market and they know whether or not they can do better (and everyone can always do a little better).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:06 PM
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I don't believe this actually happens. Women generally have sex to get a relationship. Like sure, maybe one girl just wanted to fool around, but there's no way it keeps happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:53 AM
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Is the problem that they can't dance? I don't know looks like any old party to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:15 PM
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For me personally? I don't care as long as you're not breaking the law, you're good in my book. Women call anyone they don't find attractive creepy, I'd just ignore their opinion if you aren't sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:46 PM
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If the young woman wants to be with you , then your problem is solved. You don't have to worry about it. If the young women don't want you, the older ones will be easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:42 PM
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I promise you the younger ones say the same thing. Older women are more desperate honestly. Anyone can get lucky, but young women are the harder to get commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:37 PM
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Older women are easier imo. It's also easier to date without an age gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:32 PM
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If you're eating out junk food is way cheaper. If you're gonna cook, then as long as you don't get too fancy you can eat healthy for cheaper. Depends on where you live too, in some places vegetables are ridiculously expensive, it's hard to justify a stalk of broccoli for the price of a 3pc combo, fries and a drink. But, you can always find a cheaper alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:08 PM
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What does "fixing" mean? Just the fertility rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:59 PM
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I'd be willing to bet this what most hookups are, women thinking that the sex is gonna be so special that they'll live happily ever after. Even if you are honest and say you aren't interested as long as you're having sex they're gonna be convinced a relationship is coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:56 PM
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Realistically they aren't going to do that though. If they like him they're gonna try to get a relationship out of him with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:46 PM
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It's mainly social media, when I first started lifting it was impressive that I lifted at all. The bar for "impressive" is definitely higher now. That said, most people are still fat, so it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:39 PM
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Yall don’t change very much when you age. They get worse, the hangups and insecurities only pile on. Older single women are also in a warp speed hurry to progress the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:16 PM
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Life is mostly suffering for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:29 PM
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This is some bullshit if I ever read some.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:13 AM
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Depends on the man and woman. Women act obtuse about it, but they know which men will wait for sex and which won't. They want a man that won't wait and then make their decision based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:53 PM
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You don’t need to have sex with a man who doesn’t want a relationship with you Yes, but sex is used as a tool to try and convince him. That's why they feel used, because they gave up the sex and didn't get the relationship it was supposed to pay for.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:43 PM
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Does she interact with you outside the group setting? Is your relationship just as part of a group or do you also bond alone together.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:38 PM
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At least they got some while it lasted. Failure is where most people are headed regardless (imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:35 PM
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I do this, I also imagine women I know when I watch porn. Women I know are just more arousing than women I don't, I think it has something to do with emotional connections, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:01 PM
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You should ask out people who give you some signs or reciprocity. But that's the issue with the "become friends first" advice. People make it sound like they date friends because they're friends, but in my experience these people have usually been interested in each other since they met and just didn't immediately date. It has nothing to do with social circle, a date could have been initiated on day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:50 PM
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Are women really afraid to admit this? Even online? Some of them, yes. I don't know if it's really "afraid", people just say any bullshit to win an argument honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:09 PM
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The first time I had sex the girl specifically requested that I shave before we meet up. I don't understand why everyone doesn't just shave, it feels better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:09 PM
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It's not your vibe, it's how you look. I don't accept the ESP pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:55 PM
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Do women talk to me to know any of that? Unless you're asserting they're psychic, like I said, most rejections occur pretty much immediately, the woman knows nothing about the man they're rejecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:15 PM
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If the average woman was as horny as the average man, there'd be a lot less yapping and a lot more fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:12 PM
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because hot girls end up with boyfriends and those guys are never the finest male specimen that everyone imagines they should be. An assertion I don't agree with. Hot people date other hot people, I don't know what examples you've been seeing. As to basically the rest of what you said, for me the hardest part of dating is getting a woman to agree to a date. I think most rejections occur before there's even a conversation, women (and everyone else) make assumptions about a man's internal world ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:10 PM
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✋
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:52 PM
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With short men in particular it's basically every woman that has an issue with short men. Like it is actually all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:17 PM
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The last thing I want to do when I'm high is socialize lol, I just smoke weed when I want to sit in the dark and brood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:36 PM
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Incels probably lean younger. Younger people are less likely to be overweight than average. I don't know if your poll controlled for age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:47 PM
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Is it only the bipolar ones that do this? Damn, I just thought that was women being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:44 PM
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Because men desire sex more than women. That's never going to change, you can't influence women to change their behavior because they have no incentive. You could try getting me to change their behavior, but it's not a standoff men can't win. Our sex drives are just much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:09 PM
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It's not a system with rules. Men want sex more than women, so men have to seek it. Women have the greater negotiating power, they don't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:01 PM
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I disagree with your disagreement. People tend to talk around it. It makes them uncomfortable. And people actually tend to get upset when it's raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:25 PM
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I can’t help that people don’t understand what blue pill is, even though it’s defined here for the purpose of debate on this sub. What you're saying is "common sense" isn't actually mainstream though. It is common sense, I don't disagree, but nobody actually says these things out loud. "Just be yourself", "it's what's on the inside that matters", other such nonsense is what's mainstream. Everyone lies to themselves and others about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 06:01 PM
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I don't have a grievance. Life is inherently unfair though, so it's kind of a pointless question. But if I'm to go back to the root of the conversation to get a summary, my belief is the things people say they value aren't the things they actually value. (It's everyone, not just women, but I'm sticking to women for the discussion). You say the Redpill and Blackpill are wrong, I only agree that they shouldn't be throwing out numbers. What I understand as the core of what they say is just correct.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:39 PM
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Convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:20 PM
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Then what's the dynamic you want to discuss? Some people are more valuable to the opposite sex than other people. A statement of fact you agree with. You not liking the tone doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:06 PM
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You know the topic of the forum you're on right? What are you expecting to see?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:51 PM
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Not sure that contradicts anything I actually said. Some men get more sex than other men. You can find the facts to back that up too. The difference is very steep.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:27 PM
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But "normies" are getting sex. There aren't enough "Chads" to explain how the majority of young men are having sex at least 2-3 times a month. My assumption would be most of the sex that happens would be within monogamous relationships. If everyone in a relationship falls into that grouping then you wouldn't really need a lot of chads to get to a majority would you? If even ~60% of men were not in a monogamous relationship. Then it would only take a relatively tiny number of lady killers to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:25 PM
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And which facts are those? You haven't cited any.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 03:13 PM
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Absolute bullshit. Women decide whether or not they'd fuck you after looking at you once. Signs of being attractive are a nice face and nice body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:59 PM
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I’ve seen it myself, but the narrative that a guy needs to be exceptional top 5% or whatever is nonsense. This number keeps moving, so I don't bother with the specifics, but I know from observation where this perception comes from. In social environments with both single men and women there are going to be a couple of men who either serial monogamy or casual sex their way through a good chunk of the women. The exact ratio doesn't really matter, there are a minority of men that get a lot of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:49 PM
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Sorry about your friend, I know that must be hard to deal with. Can't agree though, neither Redpill nor Black pill is wholly ridiculous there's plenty of truth in both of them. Usually the numbers people throw out are usually bunk, but the core messages are just true. How you look and how much money you make is really central to how people treat you as a man. If you don't look good and you're broke nothing you do matters to anyone. (Least of all women). As to whether or not young men are struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:31 PM
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Nah, I've seen women around hot dudes. They act just like men. There just aren't that many dudes that are hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:14 PM
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I mean fair, but what I'm saying is nobody who would identify themselves as Bluepill and has that much sex is gonna be here. Such a person has been dating on autopilot. I can't imagine what they would be doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:04 PM
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The average man finds the average woman more attractive than the average woman finds the average man. I think that's more accurate, it's on a sliding scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:33 PM
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There's gonna be some selection bias. Nobody Bluepill who has that much sex is gonna be on this forum. That's just a hot normie that's been getting girls since he was 9 lol, he's never even thought about it. Anyone here is going to be Redpill, because they've had to put conscious effort into attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:03 AM
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Took me longer, a girl invited me to her 18th birthday party and it was legit bizarre for me. Like I didn't even understand why that would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:18 PM
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They're individuals, they want different things, and they don't necessarily want to leave America to go home, America is great, their home probably sucks. Plus, running away with your kids is something the local women can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:09 PM
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It's a hard thing to explain to other people, but I was a fat kid growing up and until I lost weight I didn't even know that people (especially girls) just start conversations. If you've always been overweight you probably have no idea what it's like to be a human person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:59 PM
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I was not prepared for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:54 PM
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If I'm going to get the blame for oppression, I'd like to do some oppressing, they've been getting a bit uppity tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:49 PM
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If you can do well in those environments you can do well online, so it kinda wouldn't be the right crowd anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:54 PM
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If you have eyes you'll notice that hot people are always going on about how in love they are with other hot people. The desirability of the other person compared to their peers is a big part of what makes up "romantic feelings". Don't take for granted the fact that you bother to give another person the time of day at all, you make that choice before you know anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:32 PM
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Shame, there are some nice girls in poorer countries and they're easier to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:33 PM
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I refuse to become a "passport bro". Why? Sounds like a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:14 PM
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She is just going to get "yas queen"ed, in your scenario she is going to get validation. In other words she could say that and the only people that would have a problem with it are the short dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:08 PM
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He eventually develops feelings for her, but if he lets her know now, according to the internet he's a creep who only pretended to be her friend in order to get into her pants! It's completely outcome dependent. If she wants him it's a meet cute story, if she doesn't he's the devil. The way to proceed is to know whether or not she finds you attractive before you say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 11:26 AM
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The lies are honestly worse. I think the "personality" thing fucks people up, it was definitely worse for my self esteem, like it's not really something you can work with and it's effectively saying "you're just broken as a person" lol. But, I guess people think that it's less of a blow to lie
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:09 AM
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The thing is, people do more than just say these things, they fight for them. I was a fat kid, if I suggested that my looks were the problem, people wouldn't just throw out the platitudes, they would fight me about it, like for some reason it actually upsets them. Because people kept saying it was "personality" that matters, I legit just thought I had a broken personality. Then I got older and lost weight and realized that my personality was fine and that people (and this is probably the only ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:01 AM
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I'm not even going front, it's kinda different for women. Granted I'm sure you realize that the pretty girls get all the best attention, but boys probably get desperate and just start hitting up whoever by like 15, you get to interact with them whether you want to or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:50 AM
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They've been indoctrinated since birth and non-belief is punished by social ostracization at a minimum. Most people don't act as if they really believe in religion, they kinda just go with the religion's vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:45 AM
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I mean, some people probably never actually got a chance to interact with women until they were way older. Unironically some people are born losers with loser parents who didn't know how to help them. We don't really all have the same chances in life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:40 AM
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Yeah, it's the same thing with the guys that ask how they can spot women's hints. Chances are there were never any hints to spot, nobody is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:08 AM
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Why is it every person on these threads is always part of the statistical minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:06 AM
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Men and women are valued for different things. A good looking woman's job doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:03 AM
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It seems like "just be yourself" is only viable when "yourself" is good enough to attract. Yes, obviously. Like what do you want people to do? Women can't choose what they're attracted to. It's almost like men have to be a specific type of person to be loved. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:51 PM
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suddenly they make a move on you, you would find it weird regardless of gender I have a hard time believing that women aren't aware of the man's interest in most of these scenarios. I know you guys are socially aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 PM
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A loser is a man women don't want. It doesn't matter what he's accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:40 PM
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Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I feel like there was a sharing nudes trend at some point that kinda died out after the fappening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 PM
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Being a loser is mostly about how you look and act. That's why you have broke lady killers and virgin STEM nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:48 PM
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Lol women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:21 PM
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There's tonnes of losers with Engineering degrees. There's obviously more to it than just having a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:20 PM
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Doesn't that make this woman low value though? Does it matter? There is a tonne of faithful losers she wouldn't fuck, the cheating dude is clearly higher value. This is the issue with men's nonsense, it inevitably ends up back at men are the ones to blame. I don't know that blame matters, the guy getting the pussy is the high value guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:19 PM
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Nope, tonnes of knowing and willing side chicks are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:09 PM
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That's not what I said at all. What I said was women consider men that cheat high value, and the evidence for this is that they fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:07 PM
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That changes nothing. The reason women don't fall for their friends is that they aren't attracted to them. The reason it happens more for men is that men have a lower threshold for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:59 PM
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There are a tonne of very faithful losers out there who get nothing. The cheater is more valuable and they are, I'm not the one who gets to decide men's value, women are. Whoever men choose to fuck is the high value man, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:52 PM
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I don't know that it's my place to tell you how to view what. But, the men that are getting the pussy are the high value men. Women are the ones deciding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:46 PM
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Cheaters, are given the opportunity to cheat, so I would argue it's women that think they're high value. If they aren't high value why do y'all keep fucking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:42 PM
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if you had a male friend and he suddenly confessed his feelings for you out of the blue, wouldn’t you find that uncomfortable and jarring? Yes, because he's not attracted to men. You already knew you had to switch the gender. The reason is women don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:28 PM
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personality is MORE important than looks It isn't. Looks are more important, looks alone can secure you a relationship. Personality to matters, but it just needs to not be terrible and you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:23 PM
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I kinda meant like the fancy cleansers and that kinda thing. At the end of the day it's soap and you're washing it off, I don't see how there could be much of a difference. As for lotion, you can feel when your skin is dry, so idk maybe some people just never used lotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:48 PM
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Ok, but that's how soap works, it's going to bond to oil. Isn't that why you moisturize? And aren't you going to moisturize anyway. I don't think there's proof they do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:39 PM
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I'm half convinced that part of the reason so many women have skin problems is all the shit they put on their face. Soap is soap they have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:29 PM
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Most married couples I know aren't happy, but I know ones that are happy as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:08 PM
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From life experience. I won't go into detail, but I've been less attractive and more attractive in my life. The difference in the way women interact with you is night and day. When you're unattractive most interactions with women are them trying to end the interaction as quickly as possible. When you're more attractive they actually want to talk to you. Being part of a friend group or interactions for work or school, where interactions are basically forced are exceptions. But outside of those sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:38 PM
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Looks determine who will date you. The better your looks, the wider the range of people that will date you, the easier time you'll have finding someone. Needing to be giga Chad is an exaggeration, but looks are basically all that matter. Once you have good looks, you just need to not be self destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:34 PM
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Do you think women just refuse to interact with men they don't think look good in any context? Unless they're forced to, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:21 PM
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There aren't a tonne of such women. Women aren't exactly keen on delaying sex either as much as they complain about men rushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:55 PM
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90% of backpackers, hikers and mountain climbers these days are women and girls. Definitely not true, your view is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:18 PM
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Unless they want a girl with the same amount of social capital Yeah, so not exactly the same. Plus there has to be a top of the hierarchy somewhere, can't date up from the top. I just think that since men are the pursuers, the female counterpart to a man is going to get a wider selection with less work, so she'll probably have a better option than someone that's just like her fr.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:41 PM
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The female equivalent of a man is legit worth more though. Hoping for your exact female equivalent is aiming too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:28 PM
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Men don't, with the possible exception of sports. Ahhh, so they do it lol. You see what you're doing is counting things women do and discounting things men do. So sports, gaming and bars are just "by the way", but things women do, now those are real activities. By the way according to the trusted source "Luggage Hero" men do most of the camping, might be your camp sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:08 PM
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Camping, going out and traveling? Camping is considered more of a male activity. Go to any nightclub or bar and check the gender ratio, odds are it's more men. As for traveling, half the time women are just using travelling to get IG content. Some of you literally see the sights through your phone camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:52 PM
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We want to do ACTIVE activities, that are social or physical like traveling, going out, camping, etc. I think you mispelled watch reality TV. I'm not saying all you do is watch reality TV, but you know damn well the typical woman isn't better than the typical man. They just scroll IG and watch TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:35 PM
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will it give results? Will is too strong of a word. It may give you results depending on what else is wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:52 PM
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How do you know if they're immediately flirty if you don't flirt? In my experience? If you talk to a strange woman and she looks as if she has any interest at all in the conversation, then there is a good chance she'll be receptive to romantic advances, otherwise it'll be immediately obvious that they don't want to talk to you. It's really that simple. Like they honestly just take one look and decide. It isn't really this complex dynamic we pretend it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:02 PM
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40 yo. Though I'll smash both of they're down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:56 PM
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Have to disagree. It's hard to believe he's very attractive if for 2 decades nobody wanted to have sex with him. I honestly have found that there's not very much that can be done to seduce women, they're either immediately flirty or they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:48 PM
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I just like to imagine women as having no/less agency and it makes things make more sense. Everyone treats them that way, so I may as well accept that as truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:58 PM
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Just going to conquer, everything everyone does is a result of their hormones. Still, if you know someone needs the help it's better to provide it rather than risk the consequences of not providing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 01:50 PM
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That's not how this works though. To complete your analogy, the female tennis player, only plays with people of a certain caliber, by reaching that caliber he may be rewarded with a match. He doesn't just get it automatically, or just from asking, he has to prove he's worthy of playing. It doesn't matter if she thinks it's a reward, it's a reward, if he didn't prove himself he wouldn't get the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:18 PM
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It’s not a reward at all, it’s a mutually beneficial, mutually enjoyable activity, by design. It's a mutually beneficial activity, that men have to convince women to engage in. If women's sex drives were like men I'd agree with you, but they aren't. Men do a little mating ritual and if it's successful a woman will have sex with him. He has to do something to win the sex, it's a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:11 PM
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If she wants to look at it that way sure, but it's freely available, she doesn't really have to work for it. From a man's perspective I see sex as more of a reward precisely because it has to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:08 PM
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I mean I agree, I just don't think it would matter. Like nothing not called "losing weight" is going to make people think of a fat man as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:19 PM
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You'd have to convince me it would matter, a fat man at Lizzo's size just isn't attractive. Hard to argue she's putting in much effort when she is at the size she's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:13 PM
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You can say that, but nobody is going to make the claim that the male equivalent of Lizzo is attractive, people say pretty much every woman is attractive, regardless of what they look like. You could say they're lying, but where the lie ends and internalization begins isn't clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:06 PM
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I don't agree, but it doesn't matter. Either way, women are judged more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:57 PM
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Consider your bias, and that people just say women are more attractive. If you judged every man and every woman in the world as either attractive or not attractive, I'd be willing to bet you, and most people would say a greater proportion of women are attractive. Thus either women are more attractive, or they're judged less harshly, either way a pairing that is judged as attractive man with not attractive woman is just going to be less likely than the inverse, because fewer men are considered at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:53 PM
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Yeah, these things don't matter to me, if she's good looking and doesn't annoy me to death, I couldn't care less how much money she makes. Only exception is debt, depends on how much debt, if it's an impossible amount, then yeah I don't want to join her. If it can be paid off, then no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:13 PM
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I think it can be fine to an extent, he can sleep with women and not really affect your relationship. However, sex and emotions are not entirely disconnected for anyone, so if you have your partner around a lot of people of the opposite sex you run the risk of him bonding with someone and threatening your relationship's integrity, especially if he's sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:56 PM
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Again sure, but this is a board where people discuss gender dynamics and even here you sometimes have to argue that physical attraction is the primary barrier. A lot of people (especially women) don't like to admit it. It's one of those elephants people like to leave unaddressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:53 PM
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I mean yeah, it's common sense. But, there is an incongruence between what women tend to say they want and what they actually respond to. Women really only complain about how men treat them, but if they really analyzed their own issues more deeply they'd come to realize that their options are being limited more by the lack of attractive men, rather than the lack of nice ones. If you just wanted a nice guy it'd be easy, if you just wanted a hot guy it'd be a little harder, a hot nice guy is going…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:36 PM
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That is 0% true. Any woman can go on Tinder and get someone to sleep with them by the end of the day. It might not be who they'd prefer to have sex with, but they can get it. Unless she's like a severe burn victim or deformed it would be no challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:25 PM
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Hot not mean lol. Hot women can finesse money without sex, not mean ones. It's the same with the "asshole" men they're just attractive so they can get away with bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:11 PM
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Sex with is absolutely a reward for women if they’re satisfied and it’s with a man they find attractive. That's not the same thing. Women don't have to earn sex, they may like it, but it's not a reward in the same way. A woman has sex because she wants it, and for no other reason. A man has sex, because some woman has deemed him good enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:07 PM
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I don't think that being a shitty person is actually what appeals to shitty women. I think it's just being attractive and outgoing. Once you've got those things down, I don't think it really matters if you're shitty or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:40 PM
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Seeing women and sex as rewards Women can be modeled as rewards and maps well enough onto reality that it makes no difference. "Niceness" just isn't the right currency. Be sexier, be funnier, be richer, be more of an asshole whatever a particular woman's button sequence is, and a lot of women share enough in common that appealing to one is appealing to most. The majority of women have multiple men competing for them, the guy who ends up getting them has won a competition, whether she or he reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:39 PM
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As opposed to no women? Yes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:33 PM
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Show me the dehumanization. At the end of the day, the desirable men get the sex, doesn't matter how I feel or think about it. Understanding that women are individuals doesn't change the fact that I'd have better chances of sleeping with women if I behaved more like men that slept with a lot of women. At the end of the day, men are the pursuers, they do win women like prizes. Women can view men the same way if they want, it's not completely incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:31 PM
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I support our queens going with the flow and seeing where it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:23 PM
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Men want sex. If they did things that made women wet, they'd be rewarded with sex. The guys that don't get sex, aren't doing those things. It doesn't matter if an "asshole" could fuck every girl or not, if he's getting sex and I'm getting none, he's doing the right thing, and I'm doing the wrong thing. What's right or wrong here is by popular opinion of women. They're voting with the cooch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:09 PM
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celebrating her situationship asking her to be his gf after 17 MONTHS. That's what we like to see 👏
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:52 PM
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Yep, I think it's basically innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:00 PM
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Absolutely nothing because they'd still be afraid. There'd be no secondary effects, because men would still protect them. Walking alone at night is an easy one to look at, you say women are taught not to walk alone at night, I say men are trained/driven to not let them walk alone at night, nothing about effective behavior will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:56 PM
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Do they? I don't know if I buy it. Women tend to be sticky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:35 PM
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I don't see why it matters. It's not like women are attracted to the definition of the word confidence, they're attracted to the traits displayed by the dude. If the dude is arrogant, then they like arrogance, if the dude is confident they like confidence. If either works, they're attracted to both, unless I'm to believe that women are consciously trying to determine if someone is confident and not just going based whether or not they get tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:23 PM
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Give them money to date, pay for sports, not stopping them from going to parties or whatever. If they're already at the point where they're struggling you're too probably too late though, they're gonna have to figure it out on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:00 PM
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Kurt wasn't a bad looking dude, but the descriptor "gorgeous" would never be used for him if he weren't rich and famous. That said, women wouldn't have been able to convince him otherwise even if they did compliment him all the time. They'd have to go back in time and do it before he had success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:50 PM
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Women, especially young women can't tell the difference between arrogance, and confidence. If they can't tell the difference, then they like both. It's not like they're sitting with a rubric and trying to judge if you're arrogant or confident, it's just whether they like you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:55 PM
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Fair point. The counterpoint is that despite not knowing how to guide their children on how to approach dating, people are definitely going to try. One way or another parents, definitely think they're teaching their kids how to get laid, whether it's effective or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 PM
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They Nobody’s going to tell a kid they need to be 6ft, able to bench 100kg and have the ideal canthal tilt before they find a nice girl. They should...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:52 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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Men of your generation were all exposed to the same social stimulus Does the statement "how parents raise their children has no effect on them" sound true to you? Cause if it doesn't what you're saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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My mom doesn't really have a job, just legal obligations, so the point here is moot. My mother has influence over and investment in whether or not I get laid though, so to get what she wants (grandkids or whatever) helping me get laid would be wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:46 PM
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I'm curious why people expect that randoms in their life would be good at giving advice? I don't, but I also don't understand where this faux bewilderment about the "nice guy" thing comes from, we all know where it comes from, so why are we playing pretend now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:44 PM
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Women Automatic dating success. successful men were also children. Different genetics and parents who guided them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:29 PM
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Because they were children and stupid, I feel like I already said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:25 PM
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However, being kind doesn’t automatically award you a girlfriend/wife. Why is that so hard to get? It's not hard to get. But people do actually lie about it, like unironically. Growing up I remember guys saying they would have better luck with girls if they lost weight and girls would chime in "no! no! That doesn't matter". Like we've all internalized the messaging. I agree men should have just observed and figured it out younger, but they were children and stupid. These things don't just go awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:12 PM
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How bout what they actually like lol. I know they aren't necessarily conscious of it, but go gym and dress better would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:05 PM
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are you sure it wasn’t just your mum? Even if it was, you don't think this is relevant. The answer to where it comes from is women, all they ever complain about is that men aren't nice, the only advice they ever give is be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:02 PM
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Lots of things are possible. But, I don't know why you'd speak about couples remaining happy once they stop having sex as if it were the rule and not the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:40 AM
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Marriages, as they get old, they stop having sex. But they are still able to love each other. You say this as if it's true lol. Maybe some do, but I don't actually know that marriages commonly remain happy long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:30 AM
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It’s not like I’ve never been jealous before, but usually it’s because someone has something NICE You don't think pussy is nice? You're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:07 PM
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I'm never been genuinely convinced anyone disagrees with Redpill these days, just it's tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:31 PM
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Wouldn't it just be 38+? Do you get healthy again at 45?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:10 PM
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Sure, but it's irrelevant. So if for whatever reason we don't want to store and use that DNA for other purposes, we don't have to. There's no reason to bring it into the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:09 PM
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Men compete for women, it makes more sense if you just think of them that way. You achieve X goals and you can get a woman of X caliber. I know people are offended by that kind of thinking, but it maps well enough onto reality that it doesn't really matter if it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:51 PM
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If it's talking about it on Reddit, you should seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:43 PM
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I mean sure, but bringing it up in this context is clearly meant as a gotcha, when it's not necessary to store the samples beyond the time needed to do the test. There's no reason the two things need to be bundled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:39 PM
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More than a woman who doesn't like bad things, I'd like a woman. I know that the implication is that you should just look for a woman that likes "good things", but chances are anybody that's complaining about this isn't having any luck with that type of woman either. We can argue the reason, but men who engage in bad behavior are more likely to be popular with women, so the lesson is to be a bad person to attract women. I don't agree with the conclusion, but I think the logic that leads to the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:56 PM
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That's only true, from the woman's perspective. From the man's perspective, if he had done the things that make him more like the type of man she likes, she may have had sex him instead, thus he would have been rewarded. In fact as a woman is it really a "reward", really is more of a choice, than a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:02 PM
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It comes from the same place as the childhood friend trope that exists in anime. It's targeted at people who aren't very successful socially, so a sexual relationship with a person they don't already have a preexisting relationship feels more immersive than trying to imagine meeting someone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:44 PM
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I blame whoever coined the phrase "apples to oranges". People literally take it to mean "things can't be compared".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:25 PM
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I'm sure some do, but casual sex isn't in endless supply for anyone, and largely women demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:04 PM
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And she takes care of her self. Probably hasn't sniffed a French fry in a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:25 PM
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If average guys could easily get sex with a hot girl who is sleeping with a different guy every week, would they want it? Would this girl be attractive to you and would you potentially marry her? Not only would men enjoy it, marriage would basically be a thing of the past. I doubt most men would bother to get married, they'd just keep sleeping around, if/when they want kids they'd maybe look for marriage, but otherwise marriage would be a tough sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:13 PM
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It isn't exactly a 50/50 ratio and women have lower libidos and higher standards. There are more men than women, especially at younger ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:08 PM
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Depends on who they killed and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:19 AM
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If you ask what people would be willing to pay, there's probably no price too high. Based on the fact attractive people make more money it's probably worth at least a couple hundred thousand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:41 PM
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This is a very simple concept to grasp. Only if you don't think about it. If you're a nice person, then you should be willing to help anyone move, anytime they need it, regardless of your relationship with them. It's the right thing to do, and you can't expect anything in return, so as long as you aren't hurting anybody, that's the nice thing to do, not doing so makes you not nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:49 PM
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So, I feel like you dodged the part I care about. Do nice people exist or not? Since "spit in the face" triggered you, I'll try again. If you spend all day helping a friend move, but when you have to move they choose not to help you, are you "not nice" if you don't help them next time. If you don't help them, you wouldn't really be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:30 PM
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So are you falling back from "if you expect something in return you're not nice" or nah, you're kinda pivoting in a way I don't understand. If we are accepting nice people aren't a real thing based on that description, then I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:24 PM
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Doesn't really matter. If you expect anything you aren't nice, if you have exceptions, then the general rule you're using doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:32 PM
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The success rate is very low, I wouldn't bother to put a number if I include every avenue, because it would basically be 0. If we limit it to people I already know, I'd say 5% I don't really care about making the first move one way or the other, so 3. I'm not going to get more dates if women make the first move, so it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:35 PM
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Not based on Lilith's definition. If you're nice to someone, you have to remain nice regardless of how your relationship changes, or you were never nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:15 PM
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Part of it is women get a lot more interaction with both sexes than men do, especially in youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:17 PM
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If you’re doing things for a reward, you are not nice. Then nobody is nice, because everyone expects at least to be treated nicely in return. If someone's nice to you and you spit in their face, they're going to stop being nice to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:08 PM
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he legit looks like a girl or trap or femboy or something. He passes as a woman at one point in the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:54 PM
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I mean "nice" is a subjective term, it's for the observer to decide whether or not someone is nice. Some people might think you're nice, others might not. There's no objective measure of niceness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:48 PM
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If someone had the same attitude/mentality towards you that most men have towards women, you wouldn't wanna fck with them either. Say "bet" lmao. Like y'all have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:46 PM
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She blows up over the smallest thing and makes it your fault. You always feel like you’re walking on eggshells. The act of walking on eggshells in order to not upset her - preemptively judging what will and will not anger her, how to calm her down when she’s gotten angry, how to cut off issues when you’re out in public, not bringing home your own issues, never complaining about your own job or the stressors going on in your own life because you’re just trying to keep the vibe of the household at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:22 AM
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I think the reasons they say, and the reasons the guys are saying are both true. Men will pursue if they're interested, men will say yes and then just use them for sex, but also women are just afraid of rejection and don't really have to pursue anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:09 AM
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Via the first definition give me an example of emotional labor. Emotional labor has more or less been reduced to "has to deal with men's feelings" in common usage. Given I could never imagine a world where men would not be crucified for using the term "emotional labor" the same way, I find it hard to believe women are conditioned to consider men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:47 AM
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emotional labor? Social media bullshit. How people use it isn't even what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:39 AM
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It's not the same, because every woman could cheat. Maybe if some women couldn't cheat it'd be more similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:54 AM
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The gender flipped versions of these are exactly the same lol. Some "nerdy" outcast girl just happens to run into what is apparently the most attractive, interesting, kind boy on the planet. And he just can't help but be ensnared by her because she's just "so different" from the other girls. She always ends up with him over some obviously more attractive and better socially connected rival. None of us want TV to be reality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:44 PM
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Indifference is people's default. Some people are nice, most of us don't care. Nice is only the default for people when they want something, like if you're a woman, especially an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:46 PM
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Don't people offer you help? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:42 PM
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To add, women call every woman "pretty" lol. Every woman is attractive unless they don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:44 PM
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Women who don't date men are less likely to say it's because men are all horrible or whatever This isn't true. Even women that are dating men say all men are trash and whatever. This is just a biased world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 PM
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