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I am in the US, it's tech.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:14 PM
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The official position is the can't take on any male candidates at this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:08 PM
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My department is having trouble filling a position right now, and part of the problem is that there's a mandate to only hire women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 04:02 PM
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Over for bearcels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:25 PM
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A bear slaps your ass wyd?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:22 PM
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Because if the man is so scary, then you understand why women chose the bear. 🐻 Literal brain rot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 03:19 PM
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Women don't even read bios, watch a woman use online dating, they just look and swipe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:09 PM
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It's basically a dating resume. Women do evaluate social media to see if you're worth spending time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:51 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought it was obvious that such a statement is meant to get under someone's skin. If you're asking about it then it worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:44 AM
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He did outline how that would work out. and if he doesn't, he'll literally have no women interested or who he's talking to and have 0 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:44 AM
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Sounds like you care. You went ahead and posted about it. When something doesn't bother me I don't mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:17 PM
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men act like men like this don't exist, They basically don't. Like yeah, im sure there are some, but women don't often need to use their money to get a relationship and are usually turned off by men without money anyway, so it's gonna be far less common.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 10:16 PM
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I don't know if it's a psychological block or if it's just considered polite to not state the obvious. One person on here had said that people don't mention looks, because the person asking already knows, but I'm not so sure about that, either they don't know or they don't get how big of a deal it is, especially on online dating. If people really understood already, then they wouldn't be asking for picture advice since nothing is going to make a difference anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:44 PM
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Being lonely is a feeling, so of course lonely women exist. It doesn't mean nobody wants them. Sure it might not be who they want, in the way they want, but it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:53 PM
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Yeah my dad cheates(cheats) on my mom too and she knew because she looked through his stuff and found some documents with the other woman's name on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 02:18 PM
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No, women do things like this all the time. Going through pockets and peeking at phones etc. Nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 12:09 PM
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Moving closer to hate the more I interact with them honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:24 AM
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I believe the decrease in assault with legalized prostitution is a phenomenon that's actually been observed, so yeah, it would probably reduce sexual assaults. As for the dating market, I don't know about anyone else, but I would be done with dating and just hire prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:05 PM
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, I believe in 2-3 years time people will be doing much better in terms of individual success and relationships. What makes you believe this? It's not going to end it's just going to get worse and people will just get used to it as reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 06:04 PM
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It's gonna be what it's gonna be, whether it's acceptable or not, you can't expect otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 05:25 PM
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These attitudes develop because women don't want them. It wouldn't matter what their attitude is like because women didn't want them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:30 PM
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Yes, I know you want to believe that. But, the rejection starts in kindergarten, I don't know why you expect such a person to have a sunny disposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:27 PM
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It doesn't matter if their judgement is good. If they don't want you, you're undesirable. If it's women you want to date then it's their judgement that matters, whether it's good or awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:18 PM
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THIS is why you are struggling. Causality crossed, they have negative attitudes from struggling, not the other way around. But, I know people don't want to believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:16 PM
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You're not getting what I'm saying. I'll say it in a different way. There's no point in saying what you're saying because it's just going to be dismissed, it should be obvious why. It is very true to say millionaires have money problems, it's also true to say nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:17 PM
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Alright let me try again. You must see why your definition of "easy" isn't really gonna be taken seriously by who you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 11:08 AM
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You realize you're talking to men right? You must see why you won't get any sympathy for that. Sometimes I wonder how people came to the conclusion that women are more emotionally intelligent, cause this is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:52 AM
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Most midgets don't die alone. Stats pls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:02 AM
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Women couldn't vote, own a house or work for the same money's Gender divide really got people forgetting we're all just worthless poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 01:37 AM
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You could be married to a midget with a micropenis and it would still mean absolutely nothing because you're just one person. A midget with a micropenis is probably gonna die alone, that one didn't doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:54 AM
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The Fujoshi I've fucked a girl like this before and would do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 09:54 PM
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Yeah, but the question was never serious. It's really just asking "are you more afraid of a bear or a man". People using stars to justify their position are just being dumb, because stats aren't the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:39 PM
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How much sex am I owed and from which woman and why? I don't know about you, but I don't personally see why they owe me anything. I never entered into an arrangement in exchange for sex and I'm not even against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:35 PM
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This is already the case in a lot of sports "Men's sports" are just "sports", if a woman can qualify she's welcome to it. There's no "Men's Chess" for example. There are "Women's sections" and "Open Sections" anyone can compete in "Open Sections" gender doesn't matter. "Women's sports" exist so that women can actually compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:31 PM
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On balance women do more selection than men. Do a tally of how many times all men have been hit on and rejected a woman and then do a tally of the reverse and you'll see it's far more common for women to be picking. That you personally have rejected women doesn't really mean anything. The statement "women are the selectors" is a generalization.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:25 PM
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"used for sex" it's like women forget they don't have to have sex if they don't want to. If you don't want sex, just don't have it. If you're wanting on something before sex becomes not being used then just wait for it and stop trying to use sex for bribery and the complaining about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:59 PM
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Is this an unironic "I know a guy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:36 PM
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the blackpill is just normal life for women Then why do they fight it so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 07:29 PM
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The bear situation is just asking "which of these 2 things are you more afraid of a man or a bear". I know people apply practicality when answering it, but it's not really the point. Asking about odds of survival changes it somewhat, because it's not really about fear of the man or the woman as much as it is about surviving being stranded.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:17 PM
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The woman probably can't hurt me even if she wanted to, so the woman. Higher odds of survival is obviously with the man, but it could be hopeless no matter what I chose depending on the island. If there's trees with food and animals and a chance of rescue I'd pick the man, otherwise I'd pick the woman. The situation isn't in the same spirit as the bear one though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:36 PM
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Great! Look at you setting the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:01 PM
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No one said they felt safer with bears than within society where rape has consequences. I bet I can get someone to say that. Now can you give your opinion on those 1/3 men who would force women to have sex if no consequence ?? A world without consequences is not the real world, there are consequences even without laws. How people would act in a hypothetical world is irrelevant. Just like these women wouldn't really choose to be alone with the best, they're just saying words.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:41 PM
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I mean if you really feel unsafe around men you can definitely figure that out. Not saying it's easy, but I know there is absolutely 0 effort being put out by people picking the bear (because they don't mean it)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:35 PM
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I think it doesn't matter since we do live in a society with consequences. See if the bear cares about getting arrested. But, if someone feels safer around bears, they should be around bears, if they're choosing to not be around bears they don't really feel safer around bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:33 PM
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People have been killed everywhere. If men are more dangerous than bears, you shouldn't want to spend most of your time where there's more men and fewer bears. It's riskier to be around men, you should go where it's safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:27 PM
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Sure, but you're choosing to live in a location swarming with men instead of the relative safety of the woods.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:20 PM
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Lol. Well places with no men. So out in the wilderness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:13 PM
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emotional intelligence Really need to get people to stop using phrases like this and spell out what they mean instead. Cause a lot of the time it doesn't mean anything and is just thought termination.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:09 PM
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The logical conclusion is that you'd be safer living in the woods with wild animals. Wherever you live there's a lot of men around, yet I don't see anyone making the move. You should really take your safety more seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:05 PM
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I'm convinced it's an instinct. Even if they aren't cheating, I think a part of their psyche prefers paternal uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 11:25 AM
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but it's still our preference! Talk is cheap.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:47 PM
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No you're just giving the party answer. Most of you can't think for yourselves. You just give the group approved opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 07:42 PM
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You have a limited number of likes per day unless you pay for the subscription. Pretty sure most people just use up their likes for the day and then stop. Kinda like one of those games with daily tasks. It's better to just pay honestly, swiping is a waste of time. Tinder Gold shows you who's liked you, so you can just get matches instead of spending time swiping on people you aren't going to match with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:02 PM
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Right now “stop making it about you” This isn't "Right now" this is just how women are, "stop making it about you" is the position year round.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:41 PM
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Well lives with his parents is a problem. And the job is gonna depend on what type of job, and even if it's a good job, does he actually have money?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 07:49 PM
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The point is money and sex. Wife has job and wife has vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 06:20 PM
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Sure. But unless you have additional context into this person's life you're just suggesting stuff at random, I don't see how that would be more helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:07 PM
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Until they lose weight anything else will be pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:03 PM
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Exactly, so what's the point of telling them anything else, when the problem is obvious. It's like feeding the delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:00 PM
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It does in the sense that they're avoiding the obvious problem. If they need someone to confirm that their weight is the problem, then I don't see anything wrong with doing that for them. Telling a fat man that his problem is that he's not an active listener or something is genuinely unhelpful, you're just lying to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 08:56 PM
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Lol, men who are easy are the majority. Yet, men who get sex thrown at them are the minority. Why choose him over literally any other man if not for the fact that he's more desirable? Women can basically fuck any man whenever, yet some men get a lot and some men get none. Given this is the women's choice how do you explain it with anything other than "The men women find desirable get the most sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:14 PM
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Having sex with someone doesn't mean you're interested really.... Then they want to have sex with them which is something men value. Don't expect women to also be impressed. They already are hence the sex, the men they aren't impressed with don't get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:05 PM
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That's value as judged by women. People always make this sound more complicated than it is. If those men aren't valuable then why are so many women interested, keeping in mind that there are plenty of men with no women interested. HVM ie valuable by popular opinion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:52 PM
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Only like supermodel level women would get dates like that. I mean you just takes luck really, find someone unattractive with a good job and they'll do it. Most women wouldn't be comfortable with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 04:26 PM
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I know plenty, I'm an "IT Engineer" myself. Overweight and kinda plain looking describes the average person lol. Desk jobs aren't great for your looks. Sure some of them are hot, but that doesn't describe the average one, especially not if you're comparing her to an IG model.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:16 PM
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Yes. Especially compared to an IG model lol. The average lawyer or engineer sits a desk all day and doesn't get enough sleep. The average IG model spends all their time on looking better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:58 PM
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Interesting last sentence. So why do you gals like to say to lonely guys its the "misogyny" instead of just calling them ugly Cognitive dissonance, they don't want to be seen as shallow and don't want other women to be seen as shallow, so they come up with other reasons. If a woman wants to be with a man it's because she finds him attractive. Doesn't mean he's "Chad" necessarily, but she likes how he looks,there really isn't more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:50 PM
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Sure, but you were asserting he couldn't, but all you're saying is he wouldn't. He in all likelihood has no interest in the average lawyer or engineer. Based on what the average woman looks like they wouldn't be good for his image anyway. He wants to be seen with hot IG models, not overweight women who are stressed and sleep deprived from their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:00 PM
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That's the women he's chosen to be with. How exactly do you demonstrate he couldn't get someone else if he wanted?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 11:24 AM
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How do you know? Also the women he sleeps with are hot, I'm sure that has something to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:21 AM
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He can't get with an average IT engineer or a lawyer who know their worth How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:15 AM
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But if she’s only looking for a relationship, she probably ain’t doing one night stands. I don't buy this. Maybe she's not doing them as regularly as she would before. Women know which men will accept the born again virgin schtick and which won't and it's the desirable ones that won't. Don't have any way of knowing for certain, but I'm not gonna believe what someone tells me on the subject. People's convictions largely don't stand up well against attention from attractive people in my experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:46 PM
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Depends on what the activity is. Spend 3- 6 months on piano and you won't be anywhere near good enough to play a show. While you'll be ahead of the average person, being ahead of the average person isn't necessarily worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:40 PM
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If she really matured, I don’t think this hypothetical woman would sleep with the attractive man again unless he showed he would treat her well. I think otherwise. But it would depend on the woman I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:35 PM
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but personality and how it synergizes with that of the other is very important for LTR success. Sure, but I don't think this statement disagrees with me. Nobody wants to date people they aren't attracted to, you could be the most compatible people in the world, if the other person isn't physically attracted to you, they aren't going to date you. Looks are what people select partners based on, and relationships either fail or succeed based on personality and other compatibility factors. Nobody go…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 01:13 AM
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What's wrong with it is that looks are a big part of partner selection for everyone just as it is for you. Dating for personality isn't really a thing. Everyone who shows interest in anyone is doing so because they're physically attracted to them first and foremost. Anything else is secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:40 PM
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If you're spending a lot of time together you'll probably develop a pidgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 11:04 PM
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And I want to fuck Scarlett Johansson, that's not going to happen either. That's not how this works and you know it, can bet good money you aren't dating any ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:20 PM
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It's framed this way because women complain about being used for sex. It can't simultaneously be something you wanted and something you were tricked into doing. With the way women talk about sex, it doesn't sound like something they want to do, but rather something they trade in exchange for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:43 PM
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I'm with you. A lot of the time men don't even lie, they just don't say anything about long term plans. I've seen where the men say "no" when asked if they want anything long term and the women still get upset and say they feel "used" when he's done with them. "Showing interest" really just means she likes you and you didn't completely blow her off. If you're nice to her at all they see that as "showing interest".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:32 PM
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This is true for everyone. If you bake 100 cakes and fuck one goat you'll be known as the goat fucker not the baker. People weigh the negative more than the positive generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:39 AM
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Women are only ever single for one reason. They don't want the men that are interested, they want better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:04 PM
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This can't be what people think. Yes, I assumed that wasn't the case
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:54 PM
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I find it hard to believe this is real. But as the sec wasn't satisfactory before getting married he shouldn't have gotten married.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:38 PM
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I wouldn't. Because apart from sex, I don't know why I'd bother committing to anyone. It's not like there's anyone special currently in my life and I don't want kids, I don't really have commitment for the sake of commitment as a goal. I prefer to not have to answer to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 10:32 PM
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Bears can climb trees.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:15 PM
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I thought the whole thing was that they were both out to kill you? This can't be what people think. You mean to tell me women believe they have better odds of fending off a bear? Thought that was a male delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 03:11 PM
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Bears almost always leave if you scream at them and avoid them. I love the faith in this statement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:41 PM
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Women aren't delusional. They are attracted to who they are attracted to and they aren't attracted to the rest. it's not that if they realized they'll never get the kind of man they want them they'd go for someone they aren't currently considering, they'd just stay single instead. It's the same way a straight man isn't going to start dating gay men if he can't get a woman, it's not even an option for him, he doesn't see a benefit from it. Women are no longer financially dependent on men and ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:37 PM
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How often are women alone with bears you reckon? It's crazy that you think like this, it's not Winnie the Pooh. 48 hours alone with a bear, you're dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:28 PM
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Not what I'm saying. I'm saying you're far more likely to be killed by the bear than you are to be raped by the man in this scenario. Picking the bear would be crazy, it doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:50 PM
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Would probably be clearer to ask "would you rather be raped or killed?". Because choosing the bear is a crazy person's answer. I understand the implication is the man might rape you, but the bear is going to kill you, there's no might about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:01 PM
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Same reason any woman is single. She's not interested in the men that want her. Her making money off Redpill talking points isn't gonna change her behavior, and she's not good looking enough for the men she wants. Yes, men primarily select their partner based on physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 01:09 AM
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The analogy doesn't make sense unless you think most men are bad and most women are good, which is exactly what people who use it think, but they haven't examined their beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:42 AM
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Gonna be hard to do that if you can't find a man, don't you think? Like I said if tomorrow all men became gay this would be basically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:10 AM
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The insinuation here is he can do whatever he wants because he's tall and attractive, so you won't really impose any penalty on him ignoring your pleasure. You'll stay with him regardless because he's tall and attractive. Shorter less attractive men would have been dumped if this was a big enough problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:06 PM
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I feel like people are missing the part where she said she doesn't usually want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:01 PM
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Lol. Step 1 to finding a husband is finding a man, and as a woman that's basically a given. You're downplaying how much value this is. Imagine if all men suddenly became gay, how easy do you think it would be to find a husband then? No man is trynna marry someone they don't want sex with. Men wanting to have sex with a woman is directly related to her ability to get a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:55 PM
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2 whole money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:36 PM
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The g is silent in lasagna. Real Gs move in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:50 PM
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Who's "everyone else" and how do you know which group is the minority in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:11 PM
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If it's such a small issue why is it so contentious? There should be no problem if a man didn't want to pay, yet for a large enough contingent of women the man not paying is a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 07:42 PM
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I think onus is on the men to show women and out these men who lie to many women. Can't help. Women interact with these men far more than I do, I wouldn't even know if they were trying to cheat. That women don't like many men is beyond my power to fix. Besides, why should I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:46 PM
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That's true, but not necessarily true. There are 756 billionaires in the US, not all of them are famous. Once you start dating an A-list, celebrity you become a celebrity anyway. She couldn't even go to your place without the whole world hearing about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:48 PM
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If you're a billionaire or something then maybe, otherwise no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:42 PM
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Yes, successful men want successful women. Being successful just isn't as big a pull for men as it is for women. Meaning if it's a stunning highschool grad or a mid PhD holder, the man will be more inclined to pick the hot one, where the lower attainment would more likely to be a turnoff for a similar woman. Hot people are more educated anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:52 PM
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"on the regular" lol, this was in 2006 chief nearly 20 years ago, gonna look if I can find current numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:36 PM
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Doctors don't recommend sarms or steroids either, yet they are spreading amongst the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:24 PM
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I'm not the first person to make this prediction, but I'm gonna claim it. In 10 years or so the leg lengthening surgery thing is gonna become more common place and we are gonna see guys above 6'0" getting it because they think they're too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:06 PM
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I think part of it is people taking their cues from women, but I think women focus on the wrong things when they talk about men. Like they're always complaining that they can't find a man that's kind or treats them well or whatever, but, they also reject most men that show interest, so the obvious answer would be try amongst the men that you're ignoring/rejecting. They are obviously rejecting most men for a lack of physical attraction, but they won't say it. There's nothing wrong with rejecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:25 PM
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Man, I don't know. I'm not saying anything attractive dude is necessarily getting approached every day. But, basically anytime he'll have an interested woman basically everywhere he goes. Goes to church, a woman will be interested. Goes to a party, a woman will be interested. Joins a club Gets invited to a dinner There's just gonna be someone interested everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:05 PM
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even one of reasonable attractiveness won’t be approached by a woman, rarely if at all. This isn't true. Women generally just don't find most men attractive. Of course you'll have better luck if you put yourself out there. But, women do approach and flirt with strange men. But, I will concede if you just stay in your house and don't talk to anyone being attractive won't help. But, some of the questions here, especially the ones about approaching women are just dumb. And people really engage with…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:44 PM
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You know a lot of discussion about dating really does come down to looks. I know people get annoyed by people saying "looks" as the answer to everything, but that's because it really is. Like any question about approaching women or getting dates or moving from dates to sex or any of it can really be answered with "looks" and it would be correct. The "where to go to meet women" questions in particular are just really dumb, the answer is anywhere if you're good looking and nowhere if you're not. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 05:09 PM
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How would they know? I figure that what they really mean is they see an unattractive man with a woman once and are so shocked that they assume he must be Casanova. I've noticed everyone claims to know a guy, but the guy is never there to speak for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:53 PM
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The guys don't really exist. It's an overstatement to win an argument. When people say "gorgeous woman" they just mean "woman", they call every woman "gorgeous".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 04:48 PM
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Well yeah, I didn't mean he'd do it soon or even that he wants to. But, if she wants to get married then she can nag him about it till he does. Maybe it'll take a decade, but she's probably not going anywhere either. Shared living space and child make leaving difficult, so they're probably stuck with each other either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:48 PM
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He probably will eventually. It's not like he's going anywhere. He has a kid and they live together. At some point he's probably gonna realize it's over and just bite the bullet and do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 03:17 PM
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If you're getting compliments from women you're at least moderately attractive. If you weren't they'd just ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 01:28 PM
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My first question was what makes any of that better? And secondly how much would you need before you wouldn't be bummed. You would rather waste your entire life feeling sorry for yourself with other bitter men on the internet then do anything at all? See this is what I suspected you think. That men on the internet complaining about not getting laid don't do anything else. You're asserting if they did they wouldn't be bummed, but I'm gonna skip over the fact that I know neither of those assumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:43 PM
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I don't know about that one chief. What makes other things "better"? What is a "life" and how much of it would it take before you wouldn't be bummed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:35 PM
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I don't know about that. Anytime a woman has been interested in me she always made it pretty easy. It's only difficult interacting with women when they don't like you. If she likes you it's definitely not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:33 AM
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Depends entirely on how attractive the 21 year old is. But, probably the 21 year old, she's probably hotter and it's just a date, I'm not obligated to marry her if I don't like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:54 AM
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It'll just be the current status quo. They aren't telling Chad no, it's just refusing sex with men they already don't want sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 10:06 PM
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It'll have absolutely no effect. Women already don't want men and they won't be able to say no to the minority they do want. Also I don't see why criminals would care
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:29 PM
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They aren't attracted to them. 80/20 etc. it's really not that mysterious. Women really just don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 07:09 PM
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I do. The first time I had sex. The girl told me to shave before meeting up with her and I've just kept up the habit even if I'm not expecting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:57 PM
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"Debunking" seems like a strong word here. "Criticizing" might be a better word. Even with the criticisms you've voiced it sounds like young men being single at higher rates than women is a reasonable expectation. Which from what I've seen, yeah, that's going to be the case. Maybe the disparity wouldn't be as extreme with a different methodology. But, men being more single and more eager than their female counterparts does seem like it's what we can expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:53 PM
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Like she needs to feel anxiety, put her in her place etc. theres no question some women will go for that type of thing, but also no question that many wont. I agree with you, trying to manipulate these things is pointless. I'm sure some people are good at it, but it's unnecessary and it would really depend on the particular relationship you have with her. Trying to break interpersonal relationships down to a science isn't realistic in my opinion. The initial attraction tends to be the biggest pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:48 PM
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If anything Redpill overcomplicates women IMO. Look good and have money that's basically it and you can get a woman. Anything else is going to be to taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 06:31 PM
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Fruit juice is sugary, but I find that people don't find the taste as sweet as soda. You could try that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:57 PM
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You can fry everything too. Lookup keto recipes and add carbs. You'll probably be full though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:36 PM
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I would prefer something not super sugary too Sugar is the easiest way. Ice cream will do it. If you want to do it while avoiding sugar and keeping protein high it's gonna be a fight. Spending all day eating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:35 PM
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Chad would have been taught the same thing. Yeah you're right, everyone learns the same lesson imo, "Chad" was just successful. Everyone growing up is taught to be kind and a gentleman or whatever, and through experience we all learn those things don't really matter all that much. The difference would be how we learned. So no the "shy nerd" didn't start better than "Chad" and has only gotten worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:58 PM
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Not sure of the logical connection. But, my answer to this question is I don't think women really care about body count unless it's extreme, I don't think men even care all that much tbh, I just think men take more pride in having exclusive or near exclusive sexual access to a woman. Again sexual access to women can be hard to come by, so being the only person to sleep with a woman, especially an attractive woman comes with a prestige to it, because it's not easy to access. I think women would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:33 PM
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You're asking if men are only desired for sex? Then no, I rarely find that to be the case. Even if it were the case it's good because men like sex, and it can be hard to come by, thus some men's willingness to pay exorbitant fees for prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:25 PM
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Not sure what the question is getting at. But, yes straight women enjoy sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:11 PM
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From this perspective? The men that are more valuable will have more women willing to have sex with them and thus will likely have higher body counts. So for men body count can be evidence of value. There's no way to have a high body count as a man without being superior than average on certain value metrics looks, money and social skills or whatever. Some people believe that women actually prefer men with high body counts, I don't believe that to be the case, but some people do. What I will say…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:06 PM
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Trying to emulate men imo. I don't think women can really handle NSA sex, in my experience if a woman wants to sleep with you, then she wants a relationship with you, no matter what she says. See it all the time,they can claim to be FWB or whatever all they want, the waterworks are gonna come on when the man doesn't want a relationship with her, or finds someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:32 PM
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Even blind people care if their partner is attractive. Blind women care just as much as sighted women apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:44 PM
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Talking to women is not the same as talking to a man, as I've said women tend to be more guarded around men, it can present a challenge. Some men want to believe they just aren't saying the right combination of words, that there's some special way they need to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:24 AM
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Sure. But it's gonna be hard to establish those if women don't talk to you. Hence the search for cheat codes. To be clear, I know cheat codes don't exist, but I get why some men look for cheat codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:12 AM
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Yes, if you want a romantic relationship you have to try and establish a romantic connection. If you want female friends it's different. But, even there it's not really the same as making male friends because women are more guarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:04 AM
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Sure, but for enough people being normal seems to not work and they can't accept that there isn't something they are missing. So they theorize that there must be a secret technique.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:54 AM
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Why are men still subscribing to the myth that women are lower animals which need to be manipulated in order to cause them to dispense sex and relationships? It's simple really. When you're an undesirable man women don't talk to you and rather than accept that they're undesirable men want to believe there's a button combination to get women to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 01:42 AM
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Don't care. Does anyone care if I go unemployed for extended periods of time because of quotas like this? Didn't think so. If women can't compete without assistance then they should just get out. This is obviously not fair and there's no good reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:39 PM
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So that crap like this stops. Get them out of the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:35 PM
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I don't think men are superior to women, but whoever is proposing these quotas clearly does otherwise why not let women compete for the same pool of jobs men compete for, why do you need positions reserved for women, just be the better candidate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:33 PM
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Which is bullshit. If women want to be taken seriously in the workplace do they really want people questioning if they only got the job because it was a reserved position for females? I know I'm personally going to take women less seriously in the workplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:31 PM
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What's that have to do with gender? Just don't hire anyone then. Only hiring women is bullshit, they want to be taken seriously then let them compete with the men. If they can't do that maybe they should stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:19 PM
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Just today I heard a manager complaining that they got a resume they liked but couldn't take the person on because they don't have anymore headcount for males. Only hiring females right now. I don't want to hear anything about no goddamn patriarchy. We need to put these birds back in the kitchen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 11:09 PM
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No, I can't agree that women struggle unless I use a different definition of "struggle". I guess it comes down to what struggle you're talking about. To have a successful long term relationship with exactly the type of person they want? Sure, both struggle with that. Getting dates and/or sex? no, only men struggle with that . Can't take women seriously when they complain about dating apps because they swipe left so much. Swipe right more and you'll get more matches. The situation may be tough fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:32 PM
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Again never seen it. I'd believe you if you told me some people are different. But, I've never seen it even amongst my friends. If she likes him she'll be receptive from the moment she looks at him, otherwise any amount of singing, dancing, gifts or jokes are going to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:16 PM
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Lol. Have you lost track? They looked at me for a minute and decided they wanted to sleep with me and every woman I slept with has expressed interest in marriage within a few months of knowing them. Not that they proposed on the spot So from where I stand if she likes you you'll know within a minute, and if she likes you, you can have whatever you want with her. I'd believe you if you told me not all women are like that, but I've never seen this thing where they take even a day to decide whether…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:09 PM
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I said obviously interested, as in clear that they wanted to be with me And that was their forever opinion of you for years to come? Who cares? I don't see how that's related. Did it even last until the next morning? They lasted until I no longer wanted them to, never been with a woman that didn't express interest in marriage. So at least from my experience if she wants you she wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:58 PM
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Lol I've slept with women before and everyone I've slept with was obviously interested immediately 3 seconds is obviously hyperbole and not meant to be taken literally. Whatever time it takes to look at someone is the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:49 PM
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"The reason i get no one is because im short and there's nothing i can do about it" What amount of effort is reasonable to expect? If "do literally whatever you have to" is the answer to that question then the example you posted about misleading women seems to fall under that umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:46 PM
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In my experience about 3 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 08:36 PM
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Well it's not like women are generally ok with that dynamic. So swapping the genders doesn't work. Men can't just do housework because few women would accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:33 PM
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Part of it is that women are more frightened of men. In most cases a strange woman isn't going to just show up to a date after a single interaction. Even to initiate a conversation, a lot of the time they are clearly uncomfortable if they even think I might talk to them. The other thing is that straight women just don't find most men attractive. I don't know if it's similar in the lesbian community but straight women seem to prefer to just stay single rather than date 90% of the men they've met.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 04:01 PM
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I feel like I used to see more people disagreeing with Redpill. These days it feels like people don't disagree with what Redpill says, just how they say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:40 PM
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Yes staying in Brazil for a few years is the best bet. These women know how the process works. Once they know you have a US citizenship they're gonna want that green card. But I suppose you're right, children do make it harder for them to leave, especially if you don't care about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:30 PM
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But the more modest but still attractive women (6s 7s 8s) will often want a real relationship and build a real family. I don't know about that one chief. If that's what they want there are plenty of men in Brazil who would be happy to do that for them, but it's the same as anywhere else. Only the top men are really in consideration. As with anywhere some men and women won't abandon you because they just won't. And I get what you're saying if you go to Brazil and stay in Brazil you can compete by…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:22 PM
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No Brazillian Chad is going to want to date an American whale just because she slightly outearns him. Green card. They definitely will. Though I guess that's marry and not date. Also if you're a Brazilian Chad you can just date the land whale for the money and then cheat on her when you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:13 PM
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They just don't get it. 99% chance she's going to ignore the message no matter what I send, so why should I waste time crafting a message she won't respond to anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:11 AM
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You're free to ignore the message even if you think it's high effort, so I don't know what the point of this statement is. It's very easy to sit back and criticize other people's effort, yet when women are put in the position to actually make the effort, they send the same low effort messages they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:58 AM
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If it takes effort, she doesn't want you. And if she doesn't want you, effort won't help. Women always complain about the wrong things when they complain about "men" because they're talking about men they've chosen. If they instead complained about the reasons they didn't choose men, people would see what they really want and there would be no more Bluepill perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:48 AM
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Then how were the messages they sent? I feel like we already went through this and established that whoever your talking about doesn't actually put in any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:36 AM
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Women aren't any better, in fact they are worse. It's easy to criticize when you don't have to do anything. Women really sit on their ass and say "perform for me monkey" and you support it, unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:30 AM
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Are they paying me to be their goddamn jester? That's exactly the point, it's projection what do you think women send on Bumble literally just "hi" or a 👋 Having a vagina doesn't make you too good to respond to a greeting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:22 AM
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Oh so they didn't even send any. It's real fucking easy to criticize and not do anything isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:18 AM
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How were the messages they sent?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 01:13 AM
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these nerdy girls desire chad just as much as loud party chicks. It really do be like that. I was friends with plenty of shy, nerdy girls growing up. They had legit entourages of the dudes they played DnD or LoL or watched anime with and they rejected them just as readily as the party chicks did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:15 PM
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This is too incongruent with reality for me to imagine. Even men that treat women horribly, if she's sleeping with him, she's gonna say she likes his personality. Even if the only thing she knows about him is that he's hot she's gonna say she likes his personality. It's hard for me to imagine a woman not liking your personality and still sleeping with you, cause no matter what you do, if she sleeps with you, she likes you and will act accordingly. I just can't imagine a girl sleeping with me and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:08 PM
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Personality. I think being liked for looks is best, but her just straight up disliking your personality is gonna suck. However IMO the looks choice is the only one that's going to avoid getting cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:49 PM
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You have anything that suggests they have trouble with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:18 PM
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They can get likes, it's the metric I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:28 PM
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Apparently not. They do just fine in online dating as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:11 PM
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Truth is that you can’t always distinguish. I really don't get this, in my life women are never just being nice. Maybe women at work, but they kinda have to be nice when they are at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:34 PM
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Probably like 6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:30 PM
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Sure, but I feel like the times this comes up it's been more of them than women disagreeing Sure you always have the women that are like "I've had a higher libido than all my boyfriends 🤷‍♀️" but I feel like I see more men doing it, it honestly feels like some of them are in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:03 PM
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I don't know that ND men prefer ND women. But, I do know that ND men struggle to get matches on other platforms, so I see the appeal for the men. Just for the hopes of getting anything. I don't really see the appeal for women. Unless it's common for ND women to prefer ND men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:50 PM
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I mean, that is another reason. But, unless there is high demand for ND men amongst ND women, they'll just use Tinder or whatever. If they don't care either way they can just use Tinder, if they prefer NT men they can just use Tinder. ND women don't struggle elsewhere, so I don't see what the appeal is for them, unless they prefer ND men, and I don't know that to be the case. I don't know that ND men really prefer ND women either, so they'd really only be using this in hopes that they'd have bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:48 PM
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It's not all coming from women to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:35 PM
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Ok and I don't have a way of knowing how common that preference is amongst ND women. But what I do know is that at least some ND women prefer not to date ND men and that ND women don't struggle to find dates through other avenues. Thus this platform will appeal most to ND men, but they really shouldn't get their hopes up, ND women don't need this and so I doubt it'll be big amongst them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:32 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/YeRviHMSKi I guess this is just one woman, but indicative to me of what you can expect. No they don't want to and they don't have to, so they won't. I mean maybe some women will feel this way, but not enough to matter, women can always find their dates elsewhere. I suppose the app might be moderately successfully for gay men, but then if you're gay Grindr already works
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:56 PM
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It's going to be basically male only and then die. Women with autism and ADHD don't need this, the other platforms work for them just fine and have more desirable dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:47 PM
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I mean sure. But, again these still aren't really "high standards", unless age and martial status are also superficial, and those also delete huge chunks of the population. I've never heard anyone of either gender voice "not disabled" as a standard, is kinda assumed, maybe assumed poorly, but still assumed. Someone who voiced not disabled as their only standard would be viewed as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:16 PM
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I guess that depends on how you define "high", if you define "high" as eliminating most of the options then I agree with you, if you define high as stringent and unreasonable then I don't, because once you're looking at the entire population then asking for anything other than female is already going to severely hamstring you. Even just asking for single is getting into high standards territory by this logic. Single females under 50 is also a high standard. Any standards are high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:45 PM
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Sure, but some people do so there's the answer to your original question. If you're asking why some people get spiteful and vengeful whole other's don't, then I don't really have an answer for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:13 AM
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Nobody is happy really, but there isn't really a solution, it seems to me this is just how human sexuality works .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:09 AM
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this lady isn’t the woman who rejected them. She would have. You should try growing up as an undesirable male, literally all the women reject you. Its not really fair to her, but I would take gambling odds that she would have rejected them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:04 AM
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Women just aren't interested in most men sexually. It doesn't matter how low their value decreased, they don't see a benefit in being with a less desirable man, it does nothing for them. Unless he has something to offer that she can't get on her own, there's no point in the relationship. It's the same way no matter how low a straight man's value falls he won't be interested in a gay man's advances. They just have no interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:57 AM
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You can look into the future and see that a dude you haven't even talked to is going to be disgusting and based on your clairvoyance you know there are no good men. I don't know if you realize this, but on these platforms it's the majority of men that get ignored, you don't know that there are no good men, you don't even care to talk to most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:46 AM
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About as many as the average woman based on how they swipe, basically 0
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:43 AM
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No woman ever met a good man online. You should tell that to all the women that married them. they prove it with the disrespectful and disgusting things they say to us. And the ones that just say "hi"? Quite disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:39 AM
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Anytime I see women complain about being unable to find good men I have to ask why they don't look amongst the men they're ignoring for the traits they're looking for. You can't have 15 unopened DMs and say you can't find what you're looking for, you're not looking. Unless there's some bigger reason for the ones that are ignored that you aren't mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 01:28 AM
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You can pursue both ranges it turns out. The most desirable age range is gonna have the most competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:50 AM
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More men go after 20 year old women than 30 year old women are more attractive. Yes, even more would go after super models if that was an option. The most attractive people get the most attention, what's confusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:44 AM
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Because younger women are more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:10 AM
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Ok. But, I don't get the connection. The context of men complaining about single mothers is that they don't want to date them. I don't know how deadbeat father's got into the conversation, they obviously don't want to date them either, if that's what you're looking for. But that goes without saying because heterosexuality is being assumed. You want to see complaining about men check out a women's space like TwoX or something, you'll see plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:01 AM
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and you don't see women constantly shitting on men for having kids, similarly why would women not wanting to be step mothers be seen any differently. Up to them. They can complain if they want. Women can choose what is and isn't a problem for them, apparently having kids isn't a big one for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:54 PM
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It doesn't really matter. I don't think it's the fact that they've had children that makes them unappealing. It's that they have children, so now you have to be a step father if you date her, which is responsibility that's not everyone wants. I don't think most people really want to be dealing with someone else's children before they've even had their own. Additionally straight men aren't looking to date deadbeat dads, that would be for straight women to be worried about, so it's irrelevant in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:44 PM
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I don't disagree, but as I said when this was brought up earlier, this is basically no standards. It's just that any standards at all is already too many standards to be realistic. The market is just awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:31 PM
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So you never found anyone suitable till you met your husband? That's crazy to me, but I guess that's standard 80/20
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 11:12 PM
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Why weren't you considering anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:00 PM
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I view competition as an active participation when you have a chance to win. Absolutely not. Not everyone has a chance to win. Being rejected from the start means that you aren't in the competition in this sense. That's your perspective. From the man's perspective he stated his case and you picked someone else. That's the outcome he wanted, but someone else got it, he didn't do a good enough job appealing to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:57 PM
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Yes. You could have chosen any of them, but you chose him. So he outcompeted them. If someone you liked better asked you out you might be married to him instead. That's competition. I don't even know how you frame it as not competition. The guys you weren't interested in lost the competition, they all wanted you, but only one got you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:49 PM
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I don't know why women feel the need to justify rejecting people. And they always come up with the stupidest justifications. It's like they don't realize they can just say "I didn't want to fuck him". Of course he's in competition with other men. She can pick another man can't she ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:20 PM
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This is stupid. Is more than one man interested? Then he's in competition with other men. This is like the deepest depths of dumb
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:02 PM
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So even if a man wants a relationship women aren’t under any obligation to be grateful and grovel for it unless of course that man brings value to the relationship Even then, would she be obligated to grovel? If protection and provisioning were all it took to get a woman there'd be fewer single men and a lot more kept women. Doesn't this just indicate that women are the bottleneck, we're on a sliding scale now. First it was fat men don't want single mothers, now it's but those men aren't willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:31 PM
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Not anything super stringent. I just try to keep my protein high-ish around (175g) I'm a big guy but not that big and calories as low as I can without feeling like shit because I'm carrying too much fat ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:20 PM
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I mean it is a compliment on some level "even better looking than you." as if I'm the standard for good looking, it's actually a big compliment, so I'd take it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:16 PM
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I've been with an older woman and I'm a loser, it's definitely a thing you just need to t do the usual. Go to the gym and keep tanking rejection till someone says yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:02 PM
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Maybe we can't determine what's worse, but we can determine what's more effective and it's definitely being a woman. They marry younger and are less single and less sexless. If the goal is to eventually be in a stable relationship being a woman is the easier position to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:36 PM
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And the overweight men don’t want older women with kids. You'd have to demonstrate this to be the case. Which is gonna be hard to do, just put such a woman on online dating and she'll have suitors in hours. You can say "they just want sex", but that's unprovable and in my experience just a thing women say about men they don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:29 PM
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This is just rationalization of what you wanted in the first place. Another woman did this with short guys recently too. You had a problem with an autistic man, and it turned you off of autistic men, what a coincidence that it turned you off from people with the undesirable trait. Is "autistic" the only trait he had? Was he blonde and it turned you off from blonde people, was he tall and it turned you off from tall people? Fortunately your personal experience has revealed justifications for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:12 PM
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I don't disagree. But, these are still low standards. Just goes to show how bad the market is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:27 PM
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See some women in the chat saying how many favors they do for their male friends and Idk, never actually seen much of that irl. I was with a group of friends and a friend talked about how she helped her ex with his job search and every man in the room was surprised. Expectations are really low from association with women in my experience. I doubt they would be if it was common for women to put any real effort into favors for their male friends. In my experience if a favor isn't super easy a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:03 PM
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And she knew exactly why long before he said anything. I like how women have the highest social awareness in the world until it would be more beneficial to be oblivious, then suddenly men are master manipulators. They go out as a group every week for 3 years and every week this dude walks her home like he's her guard dog. Anyone with eyes would know he's interested. People who didn't know better would assume they were dating. I can't imagine a woman refusing to do anything ever and "I'm tired" n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:22 PM
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Predicated on FRIENDSHIP. Predicated on him being a simp. They're out with a group of friends, he didn't leave her on the side of a road. What she thought was that he'll always do whatever she asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:15 PM
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And why did she ask him and not someone else? Because she expects him to say "yes". She could get an Uber, she could ask someone else, she could get over it and walk herself. He's been walking her home for 3 years and yes , he's going to stop when she rejects him, the same way it would stop if she got into a relationship. He's not obligated to keep doing whatever she wants as long as she wants him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:12 PM
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She's not in need, he suggested two alternatives to her. It's probably for the best that he doesn't keep doing what she wants. If she had a boyfriend what she would do is have her boyfriend walk her home instead, he's just a stand-in. She's the one using him at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:07 PM
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~5 hours at the week at the gym, track your macros, and weigh your food? Either this or just a lifetime of something less intense. Women don't know what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:42 PM
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You date a homeless woman? I have. She didn't want a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:21 PM
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Yeah I'd say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:13 PM
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The times I've had sex with women, it only confirmed my perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:03 PM
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Or people could not ask questions where the answer is just "be more attractive" Unfortunately the answer to anything prior to at least having a woman talking to you on a regular basis is "just be more attractive". People have gaslit themselves into thinking it matters where you meet women, like they're a special class that can't handle being spoken to at the gym. Would it be a problem if you talked to a man in this situation, no? It's only a problem when it's a woman because you're unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:17 AM
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Ok this is irrelevant though. If someone is a self proclaimed misogynist, that right there is what's holding the other dude back. Disagree. I don't think most men who struggle with women can even get women to talk to.them, how are you gonna tell he's a misogynist if you've never spoken to him. If a dude is being rejected for being a misogynist then he was already deemed good looking enough to warrant conversation with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:58 AM
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Likes things I like So fantasy and horror books Video games Adventure (hiking, swimming climbing skills) Fun loving, not too easily offended. Ideally she can cook Good enough with people so my parents like her. I love to spoil women, so I don't mind expensive tastes. Apart from that, not fat. I like petite girls. Prettier is always better of course,but I'm not picky on face, just not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 10:45 PM
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Did she really just discover that she can open her mouth and say what she wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:26 PM
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I will say he's pretty lean and has a lot of muscle. So gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:13 PM
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That's for a above average looking woman and still really hard to pull off. Don't agree, our OP here claims she was basically able to get a date whenever she wanted and the guys didn't even want sex with her after, clearly not attractive. What's cool as a guy is that when a girl shows us interest, it's almost exclusively genuine. Don't agree with this either, though I agree they might at least want something from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 01:43 PM
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He's 5"11
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 11:07 AM
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No, more specific in the instances I've seen. One I recall saying she wanted to go outside and suck his dick. There was another that described a sex act, I don't recall exactly . But I suppose that's close enough to "hi, can we fuck".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:58 PM
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I have a very attractive friend, women throw themselves at him. Every woman I've ever seen him interact with immediately compliments him in his looks and I've seen at least a couple times women just ask him for sex out of the blue. He got a new job and slept with 3 women at his new office within 6 months. Basically he'll just say "I want to have sex with her" and before you know it, he's done it. That's how I know women are really just like men, they just don't find very many men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:05 PM
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Isn't that dating? It's wild to me to complain about actually getting to do the thing the app is made for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:12 PM
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Do you know what it is like to go on 100 dates and have every man reject you? I know what it's like to message 100 women and have all of them ignore me. I don't know what it's like to have multiple people agree to a date in a week, no. It's hard to empathize because for every man that rejected you, there's 5 you wouldn't even consider, that's the pile most men are in the "swipe left" pile, they don't even exist. The reason dating, especially online dating is worse for men is that it's not actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:06 PM
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No, they aren't. Getting a match just takes a week at least and even if they match only like 3 matches a year respond. And I've already asked out basically every single woman I know within 10 years of my age, so I'd have to go find a new social circle to take that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:57 PM
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It doesn't even if the rejection rate after the initial date was 99% it would still be easier for women. 100 dates could be done in 4 months if you really wanted. The problem is going to be that it's hard to find 100 men that you actually want, which is obviously a problem for all the guys you don't want. I don't know that every guy has it as bad as me, but it usually takes 1 - 2 years before I find a woman that agrees to a date. There's no world in which you can basically get dates whenever you…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:50 PM
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Then just go get another date, it'll take like an afternoon to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:44 PM
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Not mt experience at all, it's usually pretty clear. I think people looking for signs are usually grasping at straw out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:14 PM
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To strange women? Many. To women I'm at least aware of, 1 or 2 is enough for me to proposition them for sexual favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 06:06 PM
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Yes, even in poor countries there's social stratification, some men are wealthier than others. Some can afford a car, house and vacations and others can't. Sure the women are going to be easier to impress, cause just the ability to treat them to dates can be pretty impressive relative to those around you. The other thing is they all have the internet, depending on where they are, they may harbor hopes of marrying an American or some other first world citizen. They know who has the money and how …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:15 PM
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Who's more likely to make a move in general? Men. Who's more likely to make a move that actually leads to a relationship? Women. Approaching women is largely pointless imo. They're just gonna say "no". If there was a chance she'd say "yes" she'd have let you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 05:09 PM
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Andrew Tate is hilarious, I don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:07 PM
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I don't know if most men, especially younger men actually make a distinction between sleeping with someone and being in a relationship with them, maybe when they get older or if they are successful with women early in life . But, for the most part if you want to sleep with someone as a man, you have to start a relationship with them, the two aren't really separable realistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:56 PM
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It's because men don't care. "Where there's a hole there's a goal" basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:09 PM
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I guess, but there's some pretty big differences. There's a difference between being rejected for a fake relationship when you were 10. And being rejected for 20 years until the women are no longer attractive and then being used as a security blanket.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:58 PM
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Who are you talking about exploiting? I promise men don't feel exploited by commitment free sex, so you aren't exploiting anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:11 PM
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A guy rejected you when you were 10 and it scarred you forever? Good thing you're not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 08:54 PM
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I'm not even sure I can cry anymore. I haven't since I was like maybe 12.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:52 PM
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so... men are all going for stacey? Based on that statement? Nothing stops literally any woman from having 1 or 2 "situationships" if she wants one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:48 PM
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Exactly as you described. If she wants you,she talks to you like a normal person, if not either she just ignores you outright or she takes a minimum of 24hrs to respond so you can't really talk to her. Yes she might say things like "I like talking to you" even as she actively ignores you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:11 PM
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It wouldn't nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:01 PM
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Why do women want to get married when they initiate divorce 70% Status. They want to say they're married. Marriage is boring however, I don't know why most people who have lived a life of "serial monogamy" think they'll have lasting marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:30 PM
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No, but the traits that you select for are the only traits you're guaranteed that your partners are gonna have. Date/don't date whoever you want. Just know that when you hit your partners shortcomings, it's because you didn't really care about those traits when you were picking. When the complaints come out that men aren't kind of don't treat you well or whatever, it's because those aren't the things that actually get you chosen. Once you realize that you can start complaining about the right th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 03:03 PM
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when you go to talk to a chick and she shoots you down rudely. Or as I like to call it "when you go talk to a chick"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:28 PM
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Men don't care as much about women 's money. I don't think that surprises anyone at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:01 PM
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Only men like muscles Given big muscles are basically a requirement for matching on dating apps, I know this is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:29 AM
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If you haven’t noticed her checking you out, stealing glances, smiling at you etc then For a lot of guys this is never going to happen. They're going to have to try and force it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:07 AM
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It's the same for women. People do a lot of talk, but "superficial" characteristics are the ones people care about. Also most women don't find most men attractive. So most men aren't really rejecting anyone. Nobody is interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:09 PM
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Currently. Monogamy is a relatively modern concept.most of our ancestors are female. For most of human history most males didn't reproduce. So our species can do just fine without women being attracted to the average man. Also if you actually ask women they'll tell you they don't find most men attractive. You'll see it's pretty extreme for some of them. Some say they only see a man they find attractive once every couple of years and that kind of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 04:45 PM
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It's largely men who are unable or unwilling to come to terms with this. I agree , some men seem to be in full on reality denial. They craft any number of theories to try and get around the fact that women just don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 03:53 PM
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making yourself look better is actually the easiest thing you can do and probably has the least impact on whether you will pull the girl or not. I agree it's the easiest thing. I say it's also definitely the most impactful thing as long as you actually look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:04 PM
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If the average woman wasn’t attracted to the average man, our species would’ve died out a long time ago. Not even kinda true. A single man can impregnate several women simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:43 PM
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Sure. They like sex, but they aren't attracted to most men. Just as nobody would argue that straight men don't like sex, but they aren't attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:56 AM
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I'd argue that if they're attracted to you all of that is optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 11:17 AM
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It's mostly about your physical appearance imo. Go to the gym build muscle and lose fat. After that hair, skin and teeth in order. Beyond that make sure you have your own place a nice car, nice clothes and money for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 09:58 PM
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Or you just do. You don't need the lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:49 PM
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Men are usually the ones asking out And are mostly getting "no" as the answer. Men don't really pick who they want. It's not long before they get to the point where they aren't selective at all and just taking whoever shows interest. It's really women's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:37 PM
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I have a couple CEO friends from my college days. They are CEOs because they started their own businesses after failing to get good jobs. They have as many female friends as the next guy. Probably more than average honestly. Is there some reason women can't do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:07 PM
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Men struggle because women aren't attracted to them. Their preferences are largely irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:54 PM
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He slept with 3 attractive women. Where's your confusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:33 PM
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No it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:23 PM
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I mean if I'm getting you correctly you're talking about discussion in places like this then it really comes down to this : "I'm a man and I wouldn't do this toxic shit to you, but you wouldn't have given me the time of day. In fact my past experience tells me you would sooner go back to your 'toxic' ex than date me, thus being toxic isn't such a deal breaker to you, thus I don't really take you seriously when you complain about toxic behavior" Women are actively choosing who they want, I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:50 AM
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If it's not an active decision, the perception still comes back to the same thing. If a woman picks a toxic man it's noteworthy because she with 100% certainty has someone else she could have picked, doesn't make it her fault necessarily, but everyone knows she could have picked someone else, so she's going to get more scrutiny. So that's why people don't talk about men picking toxic women as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:37 AM
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Sounds like a perfectly reasonable excuse to me. A woman can just hop on an app and get literally 100s of people to choose from, of course it's going to be more egregious when they make bad decisions. You could have done anything and you did this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:26 AM
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Men don't generally do the selecting. Men choose the women that choose them. It's more glaring when women make bad selections because they could choose basically anybody and still made a bad choice. I don't know that men usually have men women to choose from. So it's more like the toxic women picked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:18 AM
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Unless it's an A-list celebrity nobody is going to care that they're a celebrity. How are they gonna find women? If you jump on Tinder nobody is gonna give a shit about your minor role on family matters or whatever. Even if it was an A-list celebrity what is the real answer to the question "how many people they could sleep with in a week?" I figure most people would say "as many as he wants", but I doubt that's true, I think too many women would be afraid of being seen as groupies to sleep with …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:20 PM
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Yes, they are misdiagnosing their problems. The issue isn't that there aren't enough kind, emotionally intelligent men. It's that there aren't enough attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:04 PM
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I'd say the woman honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:45 PM
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Ok. Women aren't usually friendly with strange men unless they want something. They are often friendlier with shared context.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:19 PM
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I don't doubt that women are attracted to the "right man". I think there's a misunderstanding about how women's sexuality works. It's not like they are more attracted to the top men and less attracted to most men. That's more how men's sexuality works. It's that they are attracted to the top men and not attracted to most men at all. Sure when they run out of options they may seek relationships with less desirable men, but I don't think they do so because they want sex with the less desirable men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 03:01 PM
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If you have to ask then no women are interested. Don't believe this crap they actually aren't subtle at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:50 PM
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Women aren't usually friendly to men unless they want something
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:49 PM
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Lol. Is this a real question? Looks are the main thing taken into consideration. Is this what y'all believe? That women aren't concerned with looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:42 PM
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I don't know that women "hate" men. The way I've seen it described is that they have the same amount of interest in most men that a straight man would have in gay men. In that they aren't interested in them at all. They are attracted to some men clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:00 PM
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An attractive personality is a personality an attractive person has An unattractive personality is a personality an unattractive person has. Of course even attractive person can have a uniquely terrible personality. But 95% of the time when people talk about personality they don't even know the person whose personality they are analyzing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:58 PM
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People are only confused because they refuse to believe that it's just rule 1 and rule 2 All this be nice vs. be an asshole stuff is completely irrelevant. If you have trouble it's because you're unattractive, end of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:37 PM
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Hard to say. I guess it depends on how well they pass. If people know they are trans it probably confounds this experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:27 PM
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They want good sex with men they are attracted to. And they aren't attracted to most men, most men therefore get sex by offering other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:24 PM
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Women enjoy sex and relationships with a small subset of Don't disagree, they aren't interested in most men however, like at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:23 PM
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I don’t think women having standards or more standards make dating prostitution That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying women don't want to have sex with most men, so most men have to provide something to entice them into having sex. Not necessarily cash, but some benefit. They wouldn't want sex just for sex Think of the dudes you don't find attractive. Most women feel the same way about them, they don't want to have sex with them, but some could be convinced to, under the right circumstances. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:21 AM
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They just need to find 1 person attractive to want to be with them. Being inundated with simps means nothing to them because they wouldn't let most of such simps touch them with someone else's dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:06 AM
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Prostitution by another name. That's what most relationships are imo. Some women (plenty I'm sure) are with men they find attractive, but I genuinely believe that if you pick a woman at random you would have to pay her to date most men she's met.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 01:02 AM
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Have you not seen how women describe attention from men? The most common analogy I've seen is like getting attention from gay men, they aren't interested in it at all. They actively dislike it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:55 AM
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Sole provider and it's not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:23 AM
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Women just aren't that interested in men in general. They see absolutely no benefit in dating most of them, that's why men are more desperate, to women most men are unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 12:22 AM
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I never said that. I doubt he's getting past pleasantries, so women aren't seeing his manifesto. So he can schizo post as much as he wants it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:25 PM
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It wouldn't
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:12 PM
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I figure its true, just as with everything not all men count as men. I'm sure plenty of women are unhappy that they aren't getting approached by millionaire Adonises. They don't consider expression of that unhappiness to be an invitation for regular old assholes to approach them, because they said "men" not "losers"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:52 PM
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I guess if you want to have sex with a bunch of people, but also want someone to split chores and rent with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:44 PM
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No amount of good looks makes up for social blunders imo. I That you were talking to him in the first place is the real benefit of good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:06 PM
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How do you think the dynamic works? The men just seeking sex and those seeking long term relationships don't appear any different to women, both are just another dude trying to get their attention. "Why wouldn't they be picky?" might be a better question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:15 PM
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If you're not getting the treatment you want it's because you're unattractive. This is the same for men and women. Gym, diet surgery do what you have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:00 PM
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I did it and my grades were pretty good, my GPA came out at 3.8 when I graduated. Sleep had to suffer some and I didn't really have time to do a lot of the campus activities or really have much of the college experience outside of class. Was basically doing one of class, work or homework 24/7
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:23 PM
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Sure, but this level of minutiae doesn't really matter. Whether you ask to sit or not is a very minor thing that isn't going to make a difference. If she likes how you look then you can do either works, if she doesn't then neither will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:06 PM
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It's not the only reason. The other reason is men want relationships with women more. Women are far more willing to just do without.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:47 AM
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1 is taken by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:25 AM
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I guess what I'm getting at is the way you make friends as a woman doesn't necessarily work so well as a man, so the skills may not translate in a straightforward way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:23 PM
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Women struggle with friends too, loneliness isn’t just a male experience. Sure, not suggesting they don't, but there is a difference in the way people respond to women. I've observed when women try to join a new group people get excited to add them, the same doesn't really happen for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:18 PM
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No, they wouldn't. I've seen how women make friends, a lot of it is just that they are accepted when they initiate contact. Women don't really get blown off and ignored the way men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:08 PM
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I think you'd hear less of some trite things like "treat women like people", I think women would be understand why some men talk about them like another species if they saw what interacting with them was like from the male perspective. I think most women would do fine as men as long as they weren't trying to date or expand there social circles, from what I've seen they really don't get it. Nobody is going to want to be around you just because you're pleasant and kind lol, that would be something…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 07:56 PM
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I guess it helps in "presentation" at least for the attraction part. Presentation including, but not being solely limited to physical attractiveness. Can pay for activities that make you look hot on social media and for status symbols like cars and clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:12 PM
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Seems like the money is secondary in your opinion and is really just useful in the sense that it could be a tool for improving your appearance. Or at least mostly useful in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:46 PM
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Guess it is still basically "get shredded". Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 05:24 PM
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"Passport" is my home territory. Girls back home definitely respond to flashing a little cash, girls here are not as easily impressed. I figure I'm gonna fly in a girl from back home this year or next.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:44 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:40 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:40 PM
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Software Engineering. Have about 10 years experience. It's my first job in the US . I'm originally from the third world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:39 PM
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Also Software. Back home 30k is a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:37 PM
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Im not from the US originally, came here for a master's and got a big boy job after completing it. Doing software.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:35 PM
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Gonna be starting a new job next week, gonna be making a little over 200k, which represents an unimaginable amount of money for me, I am currently making around 30k. I don't see how this translates into attention from women though, they're still gonna ignore my DMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:27 PM
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New York
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:06 PM
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I thought it was the people upstairs doing something at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:04 PM
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I think the stereotype of Chad is modeled after the stereotype of a frat bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:00 PM
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I did, definitely didn't think those happened here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:58 PM
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It's not completely false. It's completely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:27 PM
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Go next.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:55 PM
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Because if you live with your parents they can't move in with you and thus move out of their parents place. That's the only reason they're dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:16 PM
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Like they pay for prostitutes and OF? Cause those are definitely not scams. I don't really understand how a man falls for a Romeo-Juliet scam, but I guess some men might, if they can believe some random woman really wants them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:22 AM
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Is there even a shred of historical evidence that indicates that women in the past “just [weren’t] generally attracted to men”? Probably not, but we wouldn't have to go back very far before it wouldn't matter much if they were attracted to men or not. "Marry somebody or starve" or their father would just decide who they marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:38 AM
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These issues didn’t exist in the past How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:10 AM
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according to women this is uncommon among men they’ve dated According to me women are full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:09 AM
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Sounds like a wide net , but slower
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 01:02 AM
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And when you're done getting rejected by all of them, you find more?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:49 AM
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See. Everyone would be happier. If women's sexuality was more like men there would be little incentive to "use her" for sex. They'd just have sex because sex is fun. No need to tell her you'd love to be with her or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:43 AM
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I challenge you to find the cons You can't eat as many donuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:11 AM
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Men do it too Man how, I see a text from a woman, I immediately know she wants something. Is this a scam that only works on Chads or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:33 PM
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That's crazy. Maybe when I was 14 and growing, I definitely can't do that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:07 PM
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Just the meat? Or like a burger with buns?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:04 PM
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Women don't usually find most men attractive, but believe what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:18 PM
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She is on the thread and didn't disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:17 PM
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Women get old and want kids and men get money and basically pay women to sleep with them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:04 PM
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Doesn't really matter anymore. As long as they don't reproduce with close relatives every baby is viable there will be no consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:29 PM
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They only ensure traits they're attracted to. Their preferences only ensure positive traits if negative traits cause the offspring to die before sexual maturity. In modern day you'll live long enough to reproduce no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:26 PM
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Throw a woman in a baseball cap and a T-shirt and see how long it takes for someone to try and sleep with her. It's not the effort, it's that they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:24 PM
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Sure, and then they get all pissy when they realize their partner didn't think they were really all that special or weren't interested in committing. Their partner is doing what they had to do to get some puss, it would be better for everyone if women were more like men, men wouldn't be lying for sex and relationships would only be between people who wanted the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:16 PM
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We'd have less wealth, less good-looking people, less tall people, less moral people. Based on what ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:11 PM
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Men who have no standards, have no standards because having standards would be pointless. If women were more like men people would just date because they like each other and have sex when they want it. Which I'm pretty sure is what women would prefer too. Now we have men dating women because they have to do so to get sex. Some date women they don't even like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:10 PM
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Hormones. That's really all there is to it imo. Just nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:08 PM
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Most men also aren’t interested in most women physically. I don't think this is true. I think most men find most women fucksble at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:06 PM
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Yes, everyone would be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:05 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:03 PM
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Grow up as a boy and you'll see that girls basically have 0 interest in boys except for a select few. Be a man and you'll know most women don't really want anything to do with you or most men you know. You're a woman so chances are you don't find most men attractive. All those men you don't find attractive, most other women don't find them attractive either. I don't know the ratio is really 80/20, but most women really aren't interested in most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 08:55 PM
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If you ask women they'll say the quality of men everywhere is extremely low. They just aren't generally attracted to men so it wouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:56 PM
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High investment, narrow net is another. This isn't a viable strategy. Investing a lot in a single woman doesn't make sense because 9/10 times you're going to get rejected no matter what you do. What happens to guys who do this is they spend months/years trying to prove how special some girl is to them then she meets a dude somewhere and starts dating him basically immediately. Then those guys get all heartbroken and angry and post incel rants on Reddit. Better to just treat women as interchangea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:38 PM
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I don't think there's really an alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:51 PM
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Paying for woman because otherwise she wouldn't spend time with him is awfully resembling prostitution. Good observation. Basically is what most dating amounts to imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:39 PM
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Makes sense to me. In practicality the dating process is the man courting the woman. The man is the one doing the convincing. The woman has buy-in from him by default. Lots of men don't pay, the ones that pay are the ones that know they have to, otherwise the woman won't spend time with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:18 PM
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In the species where this is known to happen there's typically only 1 male in the group that counts, all the other males are undesirable. So there is no middle of the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:59 AM
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If she wants one of the sexy babies she doesn't really have a choice, she needs a male to protect/provision for her and the sexy male isn't going to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:39 AM
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promising sex = having babies. Only incidentally. The good baby would have already been conceived. She'd just have his to keep him around. a father who might kick out her good genetic baby, and then being tied to a bad genetic baby. He won't, or he won't get sex. He wants sex, he has to pay for sex because he doesn't have good genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:27 AM
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It's a strategy to get the best of both worlds for the offspring. The more desirable males have the good genes so she wants to have a baby with them, but they aren't incentivized to commit to a female and provide protection/resources, he can just go get another female for free . The less desirable males don't have the good genes, so she doesn't really want to have a baby with them, but because she can get their protection/resources by offering sex. This happens in some animal species, my underst…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 01:04 AM
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What demographic are you looking at, cause men don't start dying off till later in life. So unless you plan on dating widows there are millions of extra men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:02 PM
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Strongly disagree. Women are just as superficial about looks and also require far more from a man before he's considered physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:56 PM
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Theoretically, yeah. Theoretically, no. There are more men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:50 PM
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Women are just hard to impress. Women's reaction to most things you do is gonna be disinterest. Of course you're going to get more compliments from men, that's the case for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:20 PM
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These women are all ridiculously attractive, I wouldn't know how to use this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 09:09 PM
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The mistake you're making is thinking they care about men in the first place. It's the minority of men that have influence over women, they don't care about most of us at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:31 PM
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I agree, for a non-insignificant number of men, women aren't interested anyway, doesn't matter if they're 40 or 24 they're going to have to buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:47 PM
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Men don't really need to be taught that they have no chance with women, they get to experience first hand that women have 0 interest in them, then they look for answers, then they find pill stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:13 PM
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spend time around each other for months before you finally end up together". Or more likely she'll meet someone one night and start dating them by the end of the week. This is not a good approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:03 PM
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You can't get matches if you don't swipe right on anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 11:51 PM
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with low BF you'll have plenty of lean mass showing to spare. It's a lot different than 6' 160 and skinnyfat, Certainly not, that's probably pretty lean and not skinny. But, you have to remember not all men count to women. The obese ones don't even exist, so even though this is good shape. Lots of women will see it as nothing special (imo, I'm not a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:03 AM
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If you're in a state (assuming you're American) where obesity isn't as prevalent, 6' 160 lbs will honestly be a preferred body I think women want more muscle tbh. Depends on how hot she is of course. 6' 160lbs is probably good enough, I figure that's at like 10%bf, at that weight you wouldn't really be able to tell in clothes even if it was lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:56 AM
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The idea that 6 feet and 160 lbs is too skinny is fucking laughable and only holds up in certain parts of fat fuck America. Depends who you ask. That's definitely good shape, but I don't think it's good enough shape to impress an above average woman. The hoeflation is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:48 AM
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You literally just gotta be breathing (optional)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 03:06 PM
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women definitely should pay for their own portion of the date. They definitely should show equal enthusiasm as the man in conversations as well as sharing the responsibility of initiating conversations, Why should they? There's 30 other men where that one came from. Men want it more so they have to put in the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:49 PM
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There are probably some. They aren't famous so nobody cares though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:27 PM
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Yeah bro I'll just become some roided gymc3l with zero interests and hobbies other Hentai, video games, podcasts and dumb YouTube life coachers just so I can have a shot to get my pp touched by some negative IQ bimbo. All women like the same things. The" roided gymcel" is going to make more money than you and fuck whatever type of bimbo you like while you waste your days in some college class. Prioritize what really matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:53 PM
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, I've literally experienced having a higher sex drive than most men, EVERY SINGLE DAY, If that were true you wouldn't be asking this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:18 PM
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I'm not. There's no such thing as a woman without suitors. Men like pussy too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:00 PM
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Is it women’s standards changing, the pandemic, a lack of connection and friendship between men All of the above. Women have a lot of options. Outcompeting all of them was always going to be an uphill battle, and not enough men have stepped up their game. The pandemic has fucked a lot of people up socially. Now a bunch of socially awkward dudesare forced to try and pull equally socially awkward women out of their shells, you can see how it's hard to get a date if you don't like leaving your hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:56 PM
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. I don't think most men would want to have sex with someone who weighs 500kg You aren't framing this correctly. I wonder why women don't get this. Would most men want to sleep with a 500kg woman? Not if they had another option. It's pretty bold to assume that a man would. The opportunity to have sex doesn't necessarily come along every day. If you don't sleep with the 500kg woman when offered, you never know when you're going to get another offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:49 PM
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Men like sex, men aren't only driven to have sex with special women. Only having sex with "high value" people is women's sexuality, not men's, as long as she's female, most straight men are ok sleeping with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:26 PM
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Nah people just get bored fucking the same person for years. Monogamy is a trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:23 PM
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Women are basically just like men, they just think most dudes are ugly. They act like teenage boys when they actually find someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:49 PM
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That dead women couldn't vote doesn't affect any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:16 PM
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What about the 100+ years they didn’t get ANY vote? Who cares? That doesn't change current conditions. They're still more important for a politician who wants to get reelected, thus pleasing the women is more important. "They" never lacked the ability to vote, dead women lacked the ability to vote, what's this stolen valor or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:10 PM
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They are more important because more of them vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:01 PM
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Trying to seduce women doesn't work, your external presentation is all they care about. There's no strength you can play to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:22 AM
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Women? They are the voters. No decision gets made without female support, and as a voting block women are more important than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:21 AM
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If men didn’t have to try this sub and the manosphere in general wouldn’t exist. What he's saying is trying doesn't work. You can't make a woman like you. They take one look and decide if they'd fuck you or not, there's no impressing them or winning them over with your cool hobbies or shining personality, just go to the gym, and get money for status symbols like clothes and cars, that's all you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:09 AM
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Idk if I'd describe a pump as a high. Runner's high is absolutely euphoric. The problem is you have to do cardio until you're good at it, and cardio is the absolute worst when you're out of shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:33 AM
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after im done working out im kind of just tired and aggravated for a while. i I figure this what most people experience, you really only feel the high of your conditioning is up and based on what I've seen of modern gym trends people don't like cardio anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:27 AM
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Runner's high is better than any drug. Idk if you're describing the same thing. The only problem is you have to be fit to really appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:24 AM
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I think cheating is just more exciting for women. Women cheat with an upgrade. Men cheat because a hole was made available usually, it's less to write home about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:46 AM
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Being homeless is hard, both men and women would make the same decision in this scenario, that marriage is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 12:43 AM
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It's so easy for women to look like this, just wash your face and the estrogen takes over, but they can't even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 11:16 PM
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Up to you. Steak probably makes you seem cooler, but if you're good looking nobody is going to care what you order.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:46 PM
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I'm sure you've heard "not fat" 1000 times. Men aren't complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:43 PM
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Most of the skinny girls I've been close enough with to talk about it had iron problems. I figure someone with the same observation just associates low iron levels with skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:40 PM
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Yes, but in my experience if she's not interested in sleeping with me on the first date, she is not going to be interested in general. Y'all really do it to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 10:04 PM
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How morally wrong is it to for guys to get a “starter girlfriend” or to date women that they’re not 100% head-over-heels into Do what you have to do. Remember if the shoe was on the other foot she wouldn't hesitate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 09:09 PM
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Would you not feel offended It wouldn't matter, because I'm sure it would be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:52 PM
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leave you alone with my niece for a couple hours and then a week later ask you if you sexually assaulted her A pointless question, if I did would I admit it? If you had a test that could tell for certain I assaulted her, there's no doubt in my mind I'd be asked to take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:46 PM
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Women want to believe that relationships come about through special magical connections. In truth relationships occur for very robotic, predictable and unromantic reasons. You saw him and thought he was hot, he lives near you and he's single. It's really not anything more than that. But, that doesn't feel good to think about, so we have to invent concepts like spark and vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:23 PM
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Don't confess your feelings, she's not interested, if she was you'd know. You're just making her uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:17 PM
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It seems in here that guys are wanting relationships in their 20s or younger where as a lot of women are not ready for them until their 30s, which seems to cause mismatches in timing. Marketing. It's women that complain about lack of men willing to commit to serious relationships, so men brand themselves as looking for serious relationships to meet those demands. Both men and women are mistaken though, there isn't really a shortage of either men or women willing to commit. There's a shortage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 07:49 PM
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Every single one was like talking to a brick wall, This is what it's like talking to women that don't want you . This is the real reason men and women can't really be friends, women don't want to interact with men they don't want sexually. They'll then project that unto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:09 PM
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I can just sleep with CEOs daughter to get a job right? Unironically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 11:45 PM
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Looks are what really matter, ask anyone who's lost a significant amount of weight. Nobody gives a fuck about anything else, whatever traits they claim to like. They'll just say you have them if they like your looks.it doesn't matter what your personality is like. I've had conversations with women where they clearly have no interest in what I have to say, they're just waiting on Mr to stop talking so we can make out. Before I lost weight it was largely the same, except they were waiting for me t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:35 PM
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Religious women tend to be the virgins and they don't typically believe in divorce. Some, definitely not the norm even in religious circles. I doubt religious women even have higher rates of late virginity than the general population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 10:20 PM
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Whether or not your other qualities are considered good or bad is going to be influenced by your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:33 PM
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Many colleges aren't going to grill you on every aspect of yourself, especially not your looks Depends on the caliber of college, I meant your application has to basically make you look flawless. I genuinely think a woman who is even moderately attractive is more competitive than the ivy League, so of course you have to work a lot on yourself, there's a lot of men looking for women and not enough women for all of them, so you have to present yourself like you're perfect, or someone else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:05 PM
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What if that ? Sometimes things happen. They would just be a thing that happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:47 PM
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People are complicated,, hard to say what they will do, her own conscience might just stop that, but she may just trade up, she also may not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:43 PM
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Then it's her decision it's hard to predict with certainty what a person will do, but an upgrade in every way and nothing in the relationship she's afraid of losing? If I were to bet I'd say she trade up. But you don't know what's in other people's heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:38 PM
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But what if the chance to trade up, or at the very least mate with more sexually attractive male, is there? Wouldn't she take it? This is not without risk or cost. You already have a relationship and shared things/people shed have to give up, the other guy might just pump and dump her. Depends on the risk/reward calculation on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 06:09 PM
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think there's a subconscious belief that one must be "flawless" to be dating at all, if not to be selected as a partner. This is basically the case, as a man you have a lot of competition. You don't need to be flawless to get into a good college, but you have to at least appear flawless. There's a million other people vying for the position.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:53 PM
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Your job is the second most important thing about you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 04:58 PM
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M...me too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:06 PM
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Maybe, probably not. You're on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:58 PM
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This scenario would be ludacris if the genders were reversed Debating whether or not a man should stay home or work for 1/4 the income? The answer is neither, that man better find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:59 AM
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I make a million dollars a year, why is she bothering to work? Just stay home, she doesn't need to stress herself out unnecessarily. We can afford house keeping too. I'd probably just like if she cooks, but I wouldn't even demand that. That amount of income destroys any pretence the relationship can be 50/50, it's my world, she's just living in it. Would prefer if she didn't work, simply because she wouldn't need to. If she wants to do the 9-5 I'm not her boss, but what's the point of her contri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:43 AM
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I understand why dudes don't have standards, getting women to fuck you can be hard . The 19-21 BMI guy is right though, sex with fat chicks is worse than just jerking. When you're in the midst of the neverending drought, it feels bad though, any port is good for a storm. If not for my last relationship, I think I'd also accept anything. I actually dreaded meeting for sex, better to be single imo, there's so much porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:41 PM
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I've been in 4 relationships 3 lasted 2 years and my last one was a little less than a year. I've kinda lost interest now, I wasn't attracted to my last girlfriend at all, made the relationship a chore. If I can't up the quality of partner I can get now, I don't want one. In pill speak I'm now Stacy only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:30 PM
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I'm old now, the bulk of my approaching was done as a teenager, at some point I kinda stopped when I realized it doesn't really work out. Most women aren't interested and if they were it would be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:24 PM
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Less than 50 probably. Success rate is probably sub 10% I don't keep a spreadsheet though so idk. This isn't counting OLD, cause as we all know that OLD isn't worth thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 07:19 PM
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If you've got money you can do Europe tour or do Japan. If you have a more limited budget the Caribbean is cheaper I'd recommend Jamaica, Cuba or Trinidad, I've been to all 3 and the people are super friendly and laid back
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:41 PM
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Depends on if you have your money up or your funny up and what languages you're comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:32 PM
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Both are good, if I can get the sex more than once then I'll take it, if it's just one off I'd prefer the sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:33 PM
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Men are satisfied with a lot less than women are. If you have food and a place to sleep, the only reason you need more is because women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:59 PM
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The bar is low for some attributes and high for others. If you're confused you're missing the ones the bar is high for. You only hear women complain about the lower bars because they aren't dating people who don't meet the higher bars. Thus they aren't having poor experiences in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 02:42 PM
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they feel guilty about dating someone who is mentally/socially underdeveloped. They're lying, it just turns them off. They don't feel guilty
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 10:12 PM
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Women aren't keen on having male friends, they have male friends because men are keen on socializing with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:21 PM
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But, that doesn't change your actual competence. I thought you meant that physical appearance changes how competent you are. Physical appearance does affect your actual personality, not just the perception of it. I think it's pretty easy to understand why someone who's been treated well and welcomed their entire life based on their physical appearance is going to have a sunnier disposition than someone who hasn't. With competence, I don't see how actual competence would change, I do get that per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:36 AM
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I see you aren't familiar with the meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:18 AM
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It definitely is, it's just that stage ready physiques are pretty much the equivalent of a woman just being skinny, so of course is harder for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:11 AM
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That's insufficient for men, women are pickier
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:08 AM
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70% of the US is overweight. 41% are obese....So, pushing half the population are clinically obese. This. The people who say they want a healthy (19-21 BMI) woman don't realize that's a pretty high bar today. You need to be very attractive to get such a woman, because she's a rare commodity, increasingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:53 PM
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Personality I get. I don't see how they would affect competency. Guess it depends on which competencies you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:44 PM
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If it wasn't for sex drive why would we have romantic relationships? I've seen a few women ask similar questions, and Im honestly confused as to why they think men bother with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:39 PM
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I think men have standards, I just think those standards are largely irrelevant, most men will never really be turning anyone away based on their standards. Women do the selection, not men. Men don't pick, they get picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 09:35 PM
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Dodge carbs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:21 PM
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I firmly believe this height thing for women is just about status. They need to compete with their friends, they want their man taller than their friend's man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:20 PM
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why do you never seem to see them complaining about it? Because they have a dozen other suitors in waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:16 PM
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I think men value look more than personality, just like women do. I think more women meet the looks threshold for men though, so personality comes into play more for men. Dating my female friends always sounds like the ideal scenario, but women definitely show more interest in men they don't know than men they already do, that's how I know "the get to know her first" thing is complete bullshit. Women's idea of getting to know her is having one conversation while being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:27 PM
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So again, do all these women secretly want to fuck me? is that what you’re saying? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:10 PM
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I don't know why I'd have to spell it that every interaction isn't identical. Women don't make friends with men, men make friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:09 PM
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It doesn't sound ridiculous to me at all. If I talk to a woman and she seems at all interested in conversation, then she wants to fuck. Otherwise they act like they'd rather be anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:59 PM
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In fact, there are loads of guys you see and think I don't. Maybe you do. I've never seen this, I've only heard people claim to see it. Chemistry depends a lot on whether the other party is interested in interacting with you, and women tend to be standoffish by default unless they want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:52 PM
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"only" is very limiting. Chemistry depends on looks, and id argue looks contribute more than any other trait. Attractive people get positive traits projected unto them. Once someone is attractive potential partners project whatever traits they desire unto them, once you're hot you're also smart and funny and kind by default. Whatever another person is looking for they're going to claim you have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:05 PM
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It is true. When people go on dates and say they felt a "spark" they just mean the person was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:00 PM
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Spark / chemistry / butterflies is not only looks Lol. I wish more people could experience life on opposite sides of the attractiveness spectrum. Those things are all euphemisms for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:53 PM
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It's not hard to understand. You like your friends and you spend a lot of time with them, the only thing stopping those relationships from being romantic is physical attraction. Men are physically attracted to most women they come across, so they'd gladly date their female friends, women don't find most men very attractive, so chances are they don't find their friends attractive. If she did find one attractive she'd be dating him, they would never become friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:49 PM
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Moderately attractive is becoming increasingly rare. She also has big tits for her frame, which isn't a common genetic gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 02:21 PM
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I understand that women are afraid of men. They tend to deny it for the sake of argument though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:40 PM
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I think most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex and taking things slow when it comes to intimacy, the problem is we're terrified of ending up in friendzone land if we don't make any moves. I think so too, but I don't think this opinion is actually unpopular. The waiting thing always confuses me, because women are always in a rush for everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:37 AM
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The implication is that he's buying meat to build muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:53 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:23 PM
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They aren't trying to "build a connection" at that stage. They're just hedging their bets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:54 PM
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Women seem to believe sex is detrimental to women. Find me the man that complains about being "used for sex", women seem to think it's worse than murder to fuck them and then not commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:34 PM
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Yes, for the most part "situationships" are women waiting for a guy who either has no interest or is trying to see if he can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:33 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 11:23 PM
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Your Tren is too cheap and your creatine too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:53 PM
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It happens, I don't know if it's common and I doubt it is, but it does happen. Women's sexuality does appear to be more malleable than men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:58 PM
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She's not gay, she's bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:48 PM
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These are social enforcements. There are many things we wouldn't do if not for societal expectations. Turns out we live in a society. You don't just sit at someone else's table when you go to a restaurant I reckon, you do what is expected of you just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:43 PM
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None of you stupid monkeys would do that shit if it wasn't the societal standard. This is true of all monetary payment, so what's the real point here?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:26 PM
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The words you choose betray that it's about external validation. Everyone equates being healthy to looking healthy and the focus is solely on appearance "a six pack" is completely a vanity measure. Nobody is doing that for themselves unless they plan on jerking off to themselves in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 04:50 PM
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She's not. If she's not, then there's no discussion to be had here. I don't find that to be the case usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:08 PM
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Considering she's living in an RSO apartment Not a fact based on what you posted, she was intimidated first and then made this guess based on the fact that she was intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:06 PM
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Not what she wants. Faulty assumption in my experience. I don't think shut ins necessarily dislike people, they're just not good at forming connections. They may actually like being around people very much. Someone more socially active, comes with a social life that she's missing and may crave.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 06:03 PM
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She can get someone who's more socially outgoing, because men have lower standards than women. There's no reason she should settle for someone with no real social circle, when she can have someone with an active social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:51 PM
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yelling "hello's" in the way men do to intimidate women. This isn't a thing btw, women misinterpret so many things. Dudes saying hello are trying to be friendly, they aren't trying to intimidate her. They can't control that she's afraid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:49 PM
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Same reason to go to bars and clubs, it's something to do. You get to drink and get and be around other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:46 PM
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The female shut in can do better, that's the disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:38 PM
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If men could casually sleep with attractive women with the same ease as women casually sleep with attractive men, this subreddit wouldn’t exist Monogamy would be very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 04:37 PM
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Women are naturally less visual than men in their attraction. Where does this propaganda come from? It's not true. Physical appearance is the primary thing women are concerned with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:48 PM
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I left the best of me in 2003
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:59 AM
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It falls flat, because the advice on "being your best self" is always exactly the same as it would be if the you were advising "emulate the hottest person you know". The advice is always work on your external appearance and in your case, "the skills that make money" so not your league of legends combos. So nothing to do with yourself, completely about impressing other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:57 AM
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But do it to make yourself feel good This advice always sounded like it doesn't mean anything. If you lazily eat junk food all day, that's already what makes you feel good. To change that behavior is going to be uncomfortable, there's no way to square making yourself uncomfortable to make yourself feel good in a way that makes sense, the impetuous is obviously coming from external feedback, that's why the advice for "being your best self" is never "practice your League of Legends combos", it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:04 AM
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In my experience, most women have a varied taste in the "type" of man they find attractive I don't have the same experience, I'd say this is more true of me, and even there, not really. Women are all attracted to the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:51 AM
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There's nothing immoral about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:19 PM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:06 PM
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Lol, it's really not such a big deal. Words don't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:55 PM
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It's best to act as if women don't have agency. That's how they treat themselves, so that's the mind set it's best to hold when dealing with them, they can't think for themselves, anything they do is your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:22 PM
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They're waiting till they have someone else lined up so they don't have to be single long. Idk who told these women they were slick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:19 PM
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Older women are definitely easier to manipulate. When it comes down to it. Especially when they realize they're one of the last single/childless people In their friend group. They get desperate. Younger women have higher standards too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:41 PM
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I always thought that the preference for much younger women came from the fact that usually (not always) younger women could be more easily manipulated too. This idea comes from jealous women coping. Younger women are just hotter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:28 PM
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Is chasing or actively pursuing women ever worth it? All of my successful romantic pursuits have been entirely reciprocal from the start, Same, if a woman likes you, you don't have to put in any effort at all, she'll do all the work, you can just be chill. If you find yourself trying to win her over there's no hope. This is the real reason they say "the bar is in hell" if they actually like you, they will accept literally however you treat them. Unironically if a woman actually likes you, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:36 PM
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I love that a shrug counts as subjugation. By that metric women subjugate the fuck out of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:32 PM
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Lol, so he's an internet tough guy in addition to being ugly? No wonder you don't want to fuck him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:14 PM
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The only correct pill
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:11 PM
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They aren't here, you don't have to be nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:04 PM
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Look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:51 PM
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"blue pill doesn't say that" This is the only answer you can get. Because anyone who says dating is all about your interpersonal relationship is wrong. So there's no way to say it's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:48 PM
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Go drinking tonight and you'll see plenty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:08 PM
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Women don't seem to have the same impulse, at least not towards me. They do. The attractive part is usually what's missing. If a woman finds you attractive she'd just date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:37 AM
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If there were no financial/physical/social implications for having sex don’t you think women would be much more open to it and less selective? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:54 AM
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if someone lies to you and says they really like you Maybe he really likes a lot of people. Anyway that is not a commitment, he's not using you for sex you chose to have sex. You could have demanded commitment first, but women don't do that, because they know the answer is more likely to be no, they often use sex as a manipulation tactic. That's why the "what are we?" bullshit always comes out after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:45 PM
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What women do is wait until you've had sex and then insist on commitment. They think you're obliged after you've had sex, that way if you don't agree they get to say you used her for sex. The covert contract stuff you hear them complain about sometimes is straight projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:38 PM
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My mom, never made that claim lol. I think it's pretty clear she wasn't punishing herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 03:55 PM
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Married couples are eligible for tax deductions meaning they pay less in taxes. It's the reason half the people on this forum site for getting married. That's the opposite of taxation and social assistance systems work. These systems have no logic. The government literally just takes as much money as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:57 PM
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It makes sense, women are more likely to use government assistance, so like with insurance they should really pay a higher rate. Really isn't how taxation works though, the government just taxes us as much as it can get away with. Single people are literally being punished for being single, they aren't trying to punish women for being female. It wouldn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:45 PM
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Hence why we don't need abortions, just don't be dumb and get pregnant lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:33 PM
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If you're unattractive there's no appropriate place, if you're attractive then any place is appropriate. You're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:15 PM
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If you'd ever seen what a conversation is like between a man and a woman that's not attracted to him you'd understand why. To be friends with women it has to be part of a group dynamic where she's attracted to someone in the group, otherwise talking to her is gonna feel like talking to a wall
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:43 AM
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I'll repeat, y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:44 PM
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"how hard can it be, boys do it?" Harder than you can accomplish is the apparent answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:40 PM
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You mean you can go get a man to do it lol. Kinda goes against what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 08:35 PM
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It's clearly not infeasible, just ship them to the military. With having to produce a child, the government is not going to pay for that produced child. They are also not going to provide a mate. They would have to similarly conscript women and force them to reproduce too. People were already faking injuries to dodge the draft, it would be super easy to fake "can't get laid" to dodge mandatory reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:54 PM
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I don't doubt someone would suggest this, but it would be infeasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:57 PM
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If you can't open jars, you're gonna have trouble with nuts, bolts and hammers. So I'm not sure where you missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:27 PM
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Everything is boring if the other person isn't interested. Whether or not they're interested is going to be influenced by whether or not they want to fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:26 PM
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No matter how you slice it the government gets to decide what it's ok to do to my own body. If self mutilation can be declared a sign of mental illness I can just declare terminating a fetus to be the same. It's not objective fact, it's an arbitrary decision. You make any number of similar arguments for abortion. Is it abortion that's forbidden or the medical procures for inducing abortion, I can throw up a level of abstraction anywhere just like you did. At the end of the day nobody really has …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:55 PM
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And none of that justifies the fact that women have lost the right to decide if their body is owned by them. Nobody really owns their body. We are all effectively owned by our government. If it's your body you should be allowed to drug and mutilate yourself as much as you want. But, you aren't. We've all been forced into effectively a tyrannical system by virtue of being born.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:40 PM
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Do you think rape will exist forever? That it will never stop? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:36 PM
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Y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:23 AM
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Y'all can't even open jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:23 AM
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You see the (cute) in the title. Most male attention doesn't matter to them. There's no way to translate it to getting attention from women. It's like you getting attention from a gay man. Women aren't really attracted to men the way men are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 11:47 PM
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I believe we become a bit too cold and calculating. We always have been, people are loved for the value they provide. Nobody asks "what do your siblings bring to the table" They are forced up on you by circumstances of birth, you don't have to add them to your life, they're already there. When someone asks what you bring to the table they're asking why they should bother to form a relationship with you at all. Nobody loves anyone for who they are, that's not how it works. I don't understand how …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:24 PM
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You assume I believe in asexuals. Anyway just because people are in relationships doesn't mean they're "in love"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:41 PM
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It definitely can be. Love is just how people feel about hot people they want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:33 PM
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Then your checklist didn't have the things you actually care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:30 PM
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Do you guys not have feelings? You can use numbers and checklists to predict what a person's feelings are going to be. You're going to develop feelings for a person who hits the checklists and scores, you don't have to consciously think about the scoring.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:23 PM
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and the amount of women who PHYSICALLY and sexually harass him might shock a blue haired feminist, It wouldn't shock them, they don't see it as a big deal. Women are just like men when they see someone they're actually attracted to, it's just rare for that to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:16 PM
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But we all know you’d still complain about those women even if they didn’t blame you Do we all know that? I like to think of myself as very fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:06 PM
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Sure, but then you can't go blaming unattractive men for what an attractive few men are doing. This is the default talking to women about dating though. You don't get to share the pussy, but you get to share the blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:42 PM
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They have to get used to it. The fact that they even have this complaint means they're unremarkable. We all have to work with what's given to us. Also fatherless families are created by the desirable men, not the undesirable ones. The communities with the highest rates of single motherhood also have the highest rates of childless men. Women would just rather be baby momma #2 or #3 than sacrifice the tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 06:34 PM
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She didn't have to do anything, she could have just said "I likes you and I wants you". Women don't need game and they already get enough attention without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:32 PM
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You get good at running by running. Running a marathon a week isn't going to come close to outpacing a junk food diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:53 PM
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Why don’t men care? Because women don't find most men attractive anyway. They aren't really losing anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 08:21 AM
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Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore. Everyone knows what's up, only women think being described as "good" is still a positive thing. If you can only think to say "good" it means the dude is unfuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:35 PM
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I’m a good guy I've heard more women saying this about men than men saying it about themselves. At this point everyone knows "good guy" is code for unattractive and boring. When someone is called "a good guy" it's low-key a way of saying you feel sorry for them, because they're nice to you, but you wouldn't fuck them if your life depends on it. To me it usually sounds like the hope is that someone else would fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:28 PM
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how are there childless women at that age range who still claim they can't find a man? Always bullshit, a woman can always find a man. They just want a rich, tall, good looking man and the ones they're meeting are too poor, too short or too ugly for their taste. The answer is always they don't want the men that want them and the men they want don't want them back. I have never known a woman that didn't have somebody trying to get with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:05 PM
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Rule 1 and Rule 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 01:41 PM
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Just answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:05 PM
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Most people aren't really with their first choice of partner, especially not men. Given men are the more active party in the courtship dance, whoever they end up with is more likely going to be after things didn't work out higher up the preference list. Which is not to say people aren't happy, but most people are with their betabux(or betasex or whatever) imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:19 PM
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No one yet. I've been given a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:05 PM
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Men can be abusers, serial killers, paedophiles, commit genocide These things don't describe a personality. The woman on here would assert that an attractive personality is outgoing, charismatic and funny. You can be a charismatic serial killer, there isn't a contradiction. Looks are more important all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:42 PM
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What woman has ever said that looks don’t matter at all? A woman that's trying to win an argument. Some women on here will say literally anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:27 PM
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The answer is porn. Women ask for it, because they think men want it, because that's what they see it in porn. Same happens for things with reversed genders. All of sudden everyone is into choking, it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:12 PM
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The internet is the source of your confusion. Everyone has limitless information, so we can now hyper optimize everything, including our relationships and partners. Everyone is aware of where they and their partners stand in the dating market and they know whether or not they can do better (and everyone can always do a little better).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:06 PM
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I don't believe this actually happens. Women generally have sex to get a relationship. Like sure, maybe one girl just wanted to fool around, but there's no way it keeps happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:53 AM
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Is the problem that they can't dance? I don't know looks like any old party to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:15 PM
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It's mainly social media, when I first started lifting it was impressive that I lifted at all. The bar for "impressive" is definitely higher now. That said, most people are still fat, so it's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:39 PM
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Yall don’t change very much when you age. They get worse, the hangups and insecurities only pile on. Older single women are also in a warp speed hurry to progress the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:16 PM
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This is some bullshit if I ever read some.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 01:13 AM
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At least they got some while it lasted. Failure is where most people are headed regardless (imo).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:35 PM
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I do this, I also imagine women I know when I watch porn. Women I know are just more arousing than women I don't, I think it has something to do with emotional connections, idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:01 PM
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You should ask out people who give you some signs or reciprocity. But that's the issue with the "become friends first" advice. People make it sound like they date friends because they're friends, but in my experience these people have usually been interested in each other since they met and just didn't immediately date. It has nothing to do with social circle, a date could have been initiated on day 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:50 PM
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Are women really afraid to admit this? Even online? Some of them, yes. I don't know if it's really "afraid", people just say any bullshit to win an argument honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:09 PM
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The first time I had sex the girl specifically requested that I shave before we meet up. I don't understand why everyone doesn't just shave, it feels better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:09 PM
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It's not your vibe, it's how you look. I don't accept the ESP pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:55 PM
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Do women talk to me to know any of that? Unless you're asserting they're psychic, like I said, most rejections occur pretty much immediately, the woman knows nothing about the man they're rejecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:15 PM
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If the average woman was as horny as the average man, there'd be a lot less yapping and a lot more fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:12 PM
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because hot girls end up with boyfriends and those guys are never the finest male specimen that everyone imagines they should be. An assertion I don't agree with. Hot people date other hot people, I don't know what examples you've been seeing. As to basically the rest of what you said, for me the hardest part of dating is getting a woman to agree to a date. I think most rejections occur before there's even a conversation, women (and everyone else) make assumptions about a man's internal world ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:10 PM
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With short men in particular it's basically every woman that has an issue with short men. Like it is actually all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:17 PM
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The last thing I want to do when I'm high is socialize lol, I just smoke weed when I want to sit in the dark and brood.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 10:36 PM
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Because men desire sex more than women. That's never going to change, you can't influence women to change their behavior because they have no incentive. You could try getting me to change their behavior, but it's not a standoff men can't win. Our sex drives are just much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:09 PM
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It's not a system with rules. Men want sex more than women, so men have to seek it. Women have the greater negotiating power, they don't have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:01 PM
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Absolute bullshit. Women decide whether or not they'd fuck you after looking at you once. Signs of being attractive are a nice face and nice body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:59 PM
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Sorry about your friend, I know that must be hard to deal with. Can't agree though, neither Redpill nor Black pill is wholly ridiculous there's plenty of truth in both of them. Usually the numbers people throw out are usually bunk, but the core messages are just true. How you look and how much money you make is really central to how people treat you as a man. If you don't look good and you're broke nothing you do matters to anyone. (Least of all women). As to whether or not young men are struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:31 PM
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Nah, I've seen women around hot dudes. They act just like men. There just aren't that many dudes that are hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:14 PM
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I mean fair, but what I'm saying is nobody who would identify themselves as Bluepill and has that much sex is gonna be here. Such a person has been dating on autopilot. I can't imagine what they would be doing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 02:04 PM
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The average man finds the average woman more attractive than the average woman finds the average man. I think that's more accurate, it's on a sliding scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 01:33 PM
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There's gonna be some selection bias. Nobody Bluepill who has that much sex is gonna be on this forum. That's just a hot normie that's been getting girls since he was 9 lol, he's never even thought about it. Anyone here is going to be Redpill, because they've had to put conscious effort into attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 11:03 AM
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If you can do well in those environments you can do well online, so it kinda wouldn't be the right crowd anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:54 PM
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If you have eyes you'll notice that hot people are always going on about how in love they are with other hot people. The desirability of the other person compared to their peers is a big part of what makes up "romantic feelings". Don't take for granted the fact that you bother to give another person the time of day at all, you make that choice before you know anything about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:32 PM
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Shame, there are some nice girls in poorer countries and they're easier to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:33 PM
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I refuse to become a "passport bro". Why? Sounds like a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:14 PM
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She is just going to get "yas queen"ed, in your scenario she is going to get validation. In other words she could say that and the only people that would have a problem with it are the short dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:08 PM
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I'm not even going front, it's kinda different for women. Granted I'm sure you realize that the pretty girls get all the best attention, but boys probably get desperate and just start hitting up whoever by like 15, you get to interact with them whether you want to or not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:50 AM
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I mean, some people probably never actually got a chance to interact with women until they were way older. Unironically some people are born losers with loser parents who didn't know how to help them. We don't really all have the same chances in life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:40 AM
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Why is it every person on these threads is always part of the statistical minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:06 AM
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Men and women are valued for different things. A good looking woman's job doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:03 AM
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It seems like "just be yourself" is only viable when "yourself" is good enough to attract. Yes, obviously. Like what do you want people to do? Women can't choose what they're attracted to. It's almost like men have to be a specific type of person to be loved. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:51 PM
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suddenly they make a move on you, you would find it weird regardless of gender I have a hard time believing that women aren't aware of the man's interest in most of these scenarios. I know you guys are socially aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:43 PM
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Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I feel like there was a sharing nudes trend at some point that kinda died out after the fappening.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:58 PM
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There's tonnes of losers with Engineering degrees. There's obviously more to it than just having a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:20 PM
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Doesn't that make this woman low value though? Does it matter? There is a tonne of faithful losers she wouldn't fuck, the cheating dude is clearly higher value. This is the issue with men's nonsense, it inevitably ends up back at men are the ones to blame. I don't know that blame matters, the guy getting the pussy is the high value guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:19 PM
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Nope, tonnes of knowing and willing side chicks are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:09 PM
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That's not what I said at all. What I said was women consider men that cheat high value, and the evidence for this is that they fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:07 PM
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That changes nothing. The reason women don't fall for their friends is that they aren't attracted to them. The reason it happens more for men is that men have a lower threshold for attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:59 PM
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There are a tonne of very faithful losers out there who get nothing. The cheater is more valuable and they are, I'm not the one who gets to decide men's value, women are. Whoever men choose to fuck is the high value man, simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:52 PM
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I don't know that it's my place to tell you how to view what. But, the men that are getting the pussy are the high value men. Women are the ones deciding.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:46 PM
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Cheaters, are given the opportunity to cheat, so I would argue it's women that think they're high value. If they aren't high value why do y'all keep fucking them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:42 PM
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if you had a male friend and he suddenly confessed his feelings for you out of the blue, wouldn’t you find that uncomfortable and jarring? Yes, because he's not attracted to men. You already knew you had to switch the gender. The reason is women don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:28 PM
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personality is MORE important than looks It isn't. Looks are more important, looks alone can secure you a relationship. Personality to matters, but it just needs to not be terrible and you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:23 PM
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From life experience. I won't go into detail, but I've been less attractive and more attractive in my life. The difference in the way women interact with you is night and day. When you're unattractive most interactions with women are them trying to end the interaction as quickly as possible. When you're more attractive they actually want to talk to you. Being part of a friend group or interactions for work or school, where interactions are basically forced are exceptions. But outside of those sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:38 PM
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Looks determine who will date you. The better your looks, the wider the range of people that will date you, the easier time you'll have finding someone. Needing to be giga Chad is an exaggeration, but looks are basically all that matter. Once you have good looks, you just need to not be self destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:34 PM
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Do you think women just refuse to interact with men they don't think look good in any context? Unless they're forced to, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:21 PM
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There aren't a tonne of such women. Women aren't exactly keen on delaying sex either as much as they complain about men rushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:55 PM
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90% of backpackers, hikers and mountain climbers these days are women and girls. Definitely not true, your view is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 09:18 PM
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Men don't, with the possible exception of sports. Ahhh, so they do it lol. You see what you're doing is counting things women do and discounting things men do. So sports, gaming and bars are just "by the way", but things women do, now those are real activities. By the way according to the trusted source "Luggage Hero" men do most of the camping, might be your camp sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:08 PM
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Camping, going out and traveling? Camping is considered more of a male activity. Go to any nightclub or bar and check the gender ratio, odds are it's more men. As for traveling, half the time women are just using travelling to get IG content. Some of you literally see the sights through your phone camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:52 PM
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We want to do ACTIVE activities, that are social or physical like traveling, going out, camping, etc. I think you mispelled watch reality TV. I'm not saying all you do is watch reality TV, but you know damn well the typical woman isn't better than the typical man. They just scroll IG and watch TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:35 PM
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will it give results? Will is too strong of a word. It may give you results depending on what else is wrong with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:52 PM
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40 yo. Though I'll smash both of they're down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:56 PM
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That's not how this works though. To complete your analogy, the female tennis player, only plays with people of a certain caliber, by reaching that caliber he may be rewarded with a match. He doesn't just get it automatically, or just from asking, he has to prove he's worthy of playing. It doesn't matter if she thinks it's a reward, it's a reward, if he didn't prove himself he wouldn't get the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:18 PM
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It’s not a reward at all, it’s a mutually beneficial, mutually enjoyable activity, by design. It's a mutually beneficial activity, that men have to convince women to engage in. If women's sex drives were like men I'd agree with you, but they aren't. Men do a little mating ritual and if it's successful a woman will have sex with him. He has to do something to win the sex, it's a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:11 PM
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If she wants to look at it that way sure, but it's freely available, she doesn't really have to work for it. From a man's perspective I see sex as more of a reward precisely because it has to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:08 PM
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I mean I agree, I just don't think it would matter. Like nothing not called "losing weight" is going to make people think of a fat man as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:19 PM
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You'd have to convince me it would matter, a fat man at Lizzo's size just isn't attractive. Hard to argue she's putting in much effort when she is at the size she's at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:13 PM
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You can say that, but nobody is going to make the claim that the male equivalent of Lizzo is attractive, people say pretty much every woman is attractive, regardless of what they look like. You could say they're lying, but where the lie ends and internalization begins isn't clear to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 05:06 PM
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I don't agree, but it doesn't matter. Either way, women are judged more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:57 PM
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Consider your bias, and that people just say women are more attractive. If you judged every man and every woman in the world as either attractive or not attractive, I'd be willing to bet you, and most people would say a greater proportion of women are attractive. Thus either women are more attractive, or they're judged less harshly, either way a pairing that is judged as attractive man with not attractive woman is just going to be less likely than the inverse, because fewer men are considered at…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:53 PM
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Yeah, these things don't matter to me, if she's good looking and doesn't annoy me to death, I couldn't care less how much money she makes. Only exception is debt, depends on how much debt, if it's an impossible amount, then yeah I don't want to join her. If it can be paid off, then no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:13 PM
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I think it can be fine to an extent, he can sleep with women and not really affect your relationship. However, sex and emotions are not entirely disconnected for anyone, so if you have your partner around a lot of people of the opposite sex you run the risk of him bonding with someone and threatening your relationship's integrity, especially if he's sleeping with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:56 PM
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Again sure, but this is a board where people discuss gender dynamics and even here you sometimes have to argue that physical attraction is the primary barrier. A lot of people (especially women) don't like to admit it. It's one of those elephants people like to leave unaddressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:53 PM
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I mean yeah, it's common sense. But, there is an incongruence between what women tend to say they want and what they actually respond to. Women really only complain about how men treat them, but if they really analyzed their own issues more deeply they'd come to realize that their options are being limited more by the lack of attractive men, rather than the lack of nice ones. If you just wanted a nice guy it'd be easy, if you just wanted a hot guy it'd be a little harder, a hot nice guy is going…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:36 PM
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That is 0% true. Any woman can go on Tinder and get someone to sleep with them by the end of the day. It might not be who they'd prefer to have sex with, but they can get it. Unless she's like a severe burn victim or deformed it would be no challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:25 PM
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Hot not mean lol. Hot women can finesse money without sex, not mean ones. It's the same with the "asshole" men they're just attractive so they can get away with bad behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:11 PM
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Sex with is absolutely a reward for women if they’re satisfied and it’s with a man they find attractive. That's not the same thing. Women don't have to earn sex, they may like it, but it's not a reward in the same way. A woman has sex because she wants it, and for no other reason. A man has sex, because some woman has deemed him good enough to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:07 PM
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I don't think that being a shitty person is actually what appeals to shitty women. I think it's just being attractive and outgoing. Once you've got those things down, I don't think it really matters if you're shitty or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:40 PM
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Seeing women and sex as rewards Women can be modeled as rewards and maps well enough onto reality that it makes no difference. "Niceness" just isn't the right currency. Be sexier, be funnier, be richer, be more of an asshole whatever a particular woman's button sequence is, and a lot of women share enough in common that appealing to one is appealing to most. The majority of women have multiple men competing for them, the guy who ends up getting them has won a competition, whether she or he reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:39 PM
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As opposed to no women? Yes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:33 PM
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Show me the dehumanization. At the end of the day, the desirable men get the sex, doesn't matter how I feel or think about it. Understanding that women are individuals doesn't change the fact that I'd have better chances of sleeping with women if I behaved more like men that slept with a lot of women. At the end of the day, men are the pursuers, they do win women like prizes. Women can view men the same way if they want, it's not completely incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:31 PM
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Men want sex. If they did things that made women wet, they'd be rewarded with sex. The guys that don't get sex, aren't doing those things. It doesn't matter if an "asshole" could fuck every girl or not, if he's getting sex and I'm getting none, he's doing the right thing, and I'm doing the wrong thing. What's right or wrong here is by popular opinion of women. They're voting with the cooch.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:09 PM
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Yep, I think it's basically innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:00 PM
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Absolutely nothing because they'd still be afraid. There'd be no secondary effects, because men would still protect them. Walking alone at night is an easy one to look at, you say women are taught not to walk alone at night, I say men are trained/driven to not let them walk alone at night, nothing about effective behavior will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:56 PM
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Give them money to date, pay for sports, not stopping them from going to parties or whatever. If they're already at the point where they're struggling you're too probably too late though, they're gonna have to figure it out on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:00 PM
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Kurt wasn't a bad looking dude, but the descriptor "gorgeous" would never be used for him if he weren't rich and famous. That said, women wouldn't have been able to convince him otherwise even if they did compliment him all the time. They'd have to go back in time and do it before he had success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:50 PM
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Women, especially young women can't tell the difference between arrogance, and confidence. If they can't tell the difference, then they like both. It's not like they're sitting with a rubric and trying to judge if you're arrogant or confident, it's just whether they like you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:55 PM
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Fair point. The counterpoint is that despite not knowing how to guide their children on how to approach dating, people are definitely going to try. One way or another parents, definitely think they're teaching their kids how to get laid, whether it's effective or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:44 PM
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They Nobody’s going to tell a kid they need to be 6ft, able to bench 100kg and have the ideal canthal tilt before they find a nice girl. They should...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:52 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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Men of your generation were all exposed to the same social stimulus Does the statement "how parents raise their children has no effect on them" sound true to you? Cause if it doesn't what you're saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:50 PM
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My mom doesn't really have a job, just legal obligations, so the point here is moot. My mother has influence over and investment in whether or not I get laid though, so to get what she wants (grandkids or whatever) helping me get laid would be wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:46 PM
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I'm curious why people expect that randoms in their life would be good at giving advice? I don't, but I also don't understand where this faux bewilderment about the "nice guy" thing comes from, we all know where it comes from, so why are we playing pretend now?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:44 PM
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Women Automatic dating success. successful men were also children. Different genetics and parents who guided them differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:29 PM
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Because they were children and stupid, I feel like I already said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:25 PM
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However, being kind doesn’t automatically award you a girlfriend/wife. Why is that so hard to get? It's not hard to get. But people do actually lie about it, like unironically. Growing up I remember guys saying they would have better luck with girls if they lost weight and girls would chime in "no! no! That doesn't matter". Like we've all internalized the messaging. I agree men should have just observed and figured it out younger, but they were children and stupid. These things don't just go awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:12 PM
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How bout what they actually like lol. I know they aren't necessarily conscious of it, but go gym and dress better would be a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:05 PM
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are you sure it wasn’t just your mum? Even if it was, you don't think this is relevant. The answer to where it comes from is women, all they ever complain about is that men aren't nice, the only advice they ever give is be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:02 PM
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Lots of things are possible. But, I don't know why you'd speak about couples remaining happy once they stop having sex as if it were the rule and not the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:40 AM
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Marriages, as they get old, they stop having sex. But they are still able to love each other. You say this as if it's true lol. Maybe some do, but I don't actually know that marriages commonly remain happy long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:30 AM
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It’s not like I’ve never been jealous before, but usually it’s because someone has something NICE You don't think pussy is nice? You're overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:07 PM
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I'm never been genuinely convinced anyone disagrees with Redpill these days, just it's tone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:31 PM
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Wouldn't it just be 38+? Do you get healthy again at 45?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:10 PM
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Men compete for women, it makes more sense if you just think of them that way. You achieve X goals and you can get a woman of X caliber. I know people are offended by that kind of thinking, but it maps well enough onto reality that it doesn't really matter if it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:51 PM
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If it's talking about it on Reddit, you should seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:43 PM
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I mean sure, but bringing it up in this context is clearly meant as a gotcha, when it's not necessary to store the samples beyond the time needed to do the test. There's no reason the two things need to be bundled.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:39 PM
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More than a woman who doesn't like bad things, I'd like a woman. I know that the implication is that you should just look for a woman that likes "good things", but chances are anybody that's complaining about this isn't having any luck with that type of woman either. We can argue the reason, but men who engage in bad behavior are more likely to be popular with women, so the lesson is to be a bad person to attract women. I don't agree with the conclusion, but I think the logic that leads to the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:56 PM
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That's only true, from the woman's perspective. From the man's perspective, if he had done the things that make him more like the type of man she likes, she may have had sex him instead, thus he would have been rewarded. In fact as a woman is it really a "reward", really is more of a choice, than a prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:02 PM
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It comes from the same place as the childhood friend trope that exists in anime. It's targeted at people who aren't very successful socially, so a sexual relationship with a person they don't already have a preexisting relationship feels more immersive than trying to imagine meeting someone new.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:44 PM
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I blame whoever coined the phrase "apples to oranges". People literally take it to mean "things can't be compared".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:25 PM
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I'm sure some do, but casual sex isn't in endless supply for anyone, and largely women demand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 02:04 PM
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If average guys could easily get sex with a hot girl who is sleeping with a different guy every week, would they want it? Would this girl be attractive to you and would you potentially marry her? Not only would men enjoy it, marriage would basically be a thing of the past. I doubt most men would bother to get married, they'd just keep sleeping around, if/when they want kids they'd maybe look for marriage, but otherwise marriage would be a tough sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:13 PM
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It isn't exactly a 50/50 ratio and women have lower libidos and higher standards. There are more men than women, especially at younger ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 01:08 PM
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If someone had the same attitude/mentality towards you that most men have towards women, you wouldn't wanna fck with them either. Say "bet" lmao. Like y'all have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:46 PM
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Via the first definition give me an example of emotional labor. Emotional labor has more or less been reduced to "has to deal with men's feelings" in common usage. Given I could never imagine a world where men would not be crucified for using the term "emotional labor" the same way, I find it hard to believe women are conditioned to consider men's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:47 AM
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emotional labor? Social media bullshit. How people use it isn't even what it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:39 AM
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It's not the same, because every woman could cheat. Maybe if some women couldn't cheat it'd be more similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:54 AM
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The gender flipped versions of these are exactly the same lol. Some "nerdy" outcast girl just happens to run into what is apparently the most attractive, interesting, kind boy on the planet. And he just can't help but be ensnared by her because she's just "so different" from the other girls. She always ends up with him over some obviously more attractive and better socially connected rival. None of us want TV to be reality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:44 PM
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Indifference is people's default. Some people are nice, most of us don't care. Nice is only the default for people when they want something, like if you're a woman, especially an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:46 PM
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Don't people offer you help? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:42 PM
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To add, women call every woman "pretty" lol. Every woman is attractive unless they don't like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:44 PM
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Women who don't date men are less likely to say it's because men are all horrible or whatever This isn't true. Even women that are dating men say all men are trash and whatever. This is just a biased world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:11 PM
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Why would they not do things to help out their male friends? Because they're men. People care less about men. I'm not saying this is universal, but I've seen this, and I've seen other people say the same thing. It's a thing that women do, and it's not uncommon. The men in their friend groups kinda just kinda exist for their benefit. I'm not going to say this is most male-female friendships, but I've seen independent reports of this enough to know that I'm not imagining it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:21 PM
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As with all such discussions, what makes someone else uncomfortable is not in your control. If someone else is uncomfortable it's as much a function of how they feel, as what you've done. You can absolutely glance once and make someone uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:02 PM
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How would they not be seeing these male friends as humans? They have male friends, but do those males have female friends? This isn't universal, but I think a lot of friendships between the sexes are one sided. Meaning that the women can ask their male friends for help and support, but this support will not flow the other way. Anything non-trivial women just aren't going to do, they're also just more fickle in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:13 PM
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Like no lady, I want to fuck my LTR asap I want to fuck her even sooner for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:35 PM
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If he sees her as a short term fling, he will escalate for sex versus if he sees her as a long term relationship where he will play things slowly I've never agreed with anything less.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:17 PM
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I mean, I have female friends and I know "he's nice" is how their sell their unattractive male friends. It isn't what they talk about when they talk about men that they are interested in (they mainly talk about how they look and what their job is). I think everyone believes the "just be nice" thing, just for other people and not themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:25 PM
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He shoots his shot at what's available, and these were the results he was seeing. Being nice isn't a very useful trait in attracting a mate and that's all he had to offer. So he got what he got.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:42 PM
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That's the way you look at it. But, that's a biased retelling of what's actually said. To paraphrase a complaint I recall, a friend said something along the lines of "I'm a nice guy, but women prefer to be with known cheaters with baby mommas". You could frame it as blaming women, but you could also frame it as a statement of fact, that's what he was actually experiencing. With the way you view it, the only thing he could do to not be "fake nice" is to keep his mouth shut. You definitely didn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:34 PM
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Doesn't matter what I want to hear, they're just gonna say "be nice" anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:10 PM
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Whether or not he's nice is up to other people's judgement. He could be a fucking saint, if he gets frustrated about his luck with women just once you get to say he was pretending. It's an easy side of the argument to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:09 PM
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I understand what a salutation is. The difference is, if you try to have a real conversation with most people, especially with women, not only will "be nice" be the only thing they suggest, they will emphatically reject any suggestion that is not "be nice" or "be yourself/confident". I genuinely believe that most women think that being nice is supposed to work. (You're just not their type is all)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:04 PM
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One: You keep saying grow men haven't figured it out. They obviously have otherwise you wouldn't be having this discussion. So this doesn't make any sense from the jump. Two: "Be nice" is damn near the only advice normies give about dating. I know it's bullshit, you know it's bullshit, and I'm pretty sure they know it's bullshit. But it's what everyone says. Women also complain about men not being nice and it's their main complaint . Three: By your definition of "nice" nobody is nice. For exampl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:00 PM
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Right, so a lie then. Post debunked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:47 PM
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Nothing is fair, but games are "fair" in the sense that we artificially have restrictions. For example if I get a turn, then you will get a turn. Yes, some will be more skilled, but that's the game. Outside of games or other artificial settings, nothing works like that. So I agree, expecting dating to be fair is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:36 PM
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Everyone doesn't have an equal chance at winning in either dating or business though. They only have an equal opportunity to try and win. People are born with different chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:17 PM
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It's literally unrelated. Y'all just can't accept men having anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:55 PM
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I'm fine if that's how you define fair. But I don't think people usually use "fair" like that in other contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:28 PM
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It's not that a personal flaw can't be undesirable, it's that it is the assumed problem. It is the most common response, because that's what people want to believe. The vast majority of the people who get the "maybe if you weren't a misogynist" response are broke and/or ugly, but everyone wants to believe the problem is they're bad people, because we tend to believe life rewards good people when that's just not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:32 PM
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The reason for that is nothing is "fair". Fair is an artificial construction, it only exists in man-made systems like games.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:05 PM
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Anything that comes from the assumption that a person's failure is based on a personal flaw is coming from the mindset that dating is fair. If you say that a person must be failing because they're an asshole or a misogynist, you're assuming they wouldn't fail if they were better people, which is to assume dating is fair. Any assignment of a cause to romantic failure that isn't "you are undesirable" is assuming dating is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:02 PM
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everyone can try and find a partner and reject people for any reason" By this definition of fair everything is fair. "Everyone can start a business that could potentially make them a billionaire ".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:59 PM
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Lookism, how you look determines who is willing to be your friend and this starts pretty much as soon as you start school. I know people don't like to believe it, but all our social hierarchies are built around physical appearance. From our friends, to our jobs, to our romantic partners, our looks play a big part in all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:17 PM
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Dating isn't fair, but people speak as though it is. If someone complains about dating, the default response is to assume that the complainant is a bad person. People make this assumption because they actually believe dating is fair. Thus if you struggle, you must have a moral failing, because it is fair. You see a lot of complaining about unfair dating precisely because they're arguing with people who are rejecting the premise that dating is unfair, even if they won't admit that's what they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:12 PM
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So in other words they can have sex whenever they want. They just don't want to. How are you defining "can't" here such that your statement is true?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:04 PM
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They get fear drilled into them, you aren't given constant reminders of dangerous cars are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:47 AM
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Without question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:07 AM
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Definitely not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:15 PM
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Also, taking showers and being a decent person certainly aren’t going to hurt…maybe try it before you bash it🤷‍♀️ Taking showers, sure. Being a decent human is irrelevant. It matters how desirable you are: how you look, how much money you have and what your social circle looks like. Some of the most horrible people are also the most sought after.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:03 PM
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No. It means nothing. Humans are treated differently based on your relationship with them, and what you want out of your interactions with them. There is no universal way humans are treated, it isn't instructive in the slightest. what does just treat them like humans mean? Yes, I was referring to the source of the statement "treat them like humans", it usually comes after someone asks for advice on women and someone wants to imply that the asker is treating them in some way that is "not human".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:51 PM
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And thus the statement "treat her like a human" is meaningless. It effectively reduces to "treat her the way you would treat a woman you have romantic interest in", which was the question. It's effectively saying nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:40 PM
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Women aren't subtle, if you talk to them and they respond positively they're interested. If they do the usual woman thing and act like they can't wait for you to disappear then they're not. Literally, if they talk to you like you're a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:34 PM
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Must be why they keep seeking them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:33 PM
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So not sure why it doesn't work the other way around? Because men like women lol. Really is that straight forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:24 PM
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Being a good person doesn't inherently hold value though. Lots of good people die alone. Cars and money are definitely higher value as evidenced by the difference in the way people will treat you if you have cars and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:05 PM
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This only proves my point further as you wouldn't need to lie to a man to get sex and even if you did it wouldn't work, because if he didn't want to sleep with you there's nothing you could say that would convince him. It doesn't have to be a lie, if a man sleeps with them and then ends the relationship, they feel used, it doesn't matter if they lied to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:35 PM
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I’ve seen attractive men complain about not being desired for their intelligence or personality, but rather only being seen as “eye candy.” I haven't lol. Most women also have a fear of being raped, and most men don’t. Irrelevant, women are afraid of getting dumped after consensual sex, it's a different fear. If you think women aren’t interested in having sex just for the sake of it, you must not go to clubs or bars with good looking dudes. Women turn straight-up feral around those fellows. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:02 PM
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Women definitely want sex less than men. My argument for this is that you're never going to find a man that complains about being used for sex, whereas just about every woman has a fear of being used for sex. Women want more than just sex out of the act of sex, whereas I'm not sure most men need further encouragement to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:04 PM
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I'm not saying you shouldn't try to look better. What is pretty clothes on one man is going to make another look like a clown. Not everyone is going to look good in designer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:33 PM
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So? Who cares? This is a "people have it worse in Africa" statement that you could rightly also say to homeless people. If I'm miserable I don't see why that would matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:31 PM
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Is this a reason to live? This just sounds like a state of being, what does it really matter? Anyway probably too real for this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:22 PM
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Not necessarily, not all looks work for everyone. Unironically I think he might look better in supermarket clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:19 PM
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Because porn is free and strippers are usually mid at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:16 PM
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At this point Redpill and "Bluepill" don't disagree on anything imo, they just don't like the way manosphere guys talk about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:13 PM
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It's a red pill myth. People say it all the time lol. When they're trying to be nice. Nobody is going to say to your face, "you don't have a girlfriend because you're fat and ugly", they're more likely to say you'll meet someone due to your nice personality. This isn't unique to women though, most men are too nice to be that blunt too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 11:10 PM
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I don't mean to laugh at your suffering, but that sounds like a bit in a comedy. You can't listen to women, they don't know what they're talking about, dating is automatic for them, they just have to actually talk to people they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:58 PM
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Maybe it's bc I listen to more "alternative" types of music/concerts - Saw The Used and Senses Fail last year and I kinda agree, I've never been anywhere else and seen women being so friendly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:54 PM
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For checking progress in the gym, people need to know if their program is working and how well, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:29 PM
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If men were so oblivious to this kind of thing, men taking gym selfies would not be a thing. Gym selfies serve a functional purpose. They're also often posted for others to see
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:12 AM
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I don't understand why people are upset, you just reported what a study said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:04 AM
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You just want pretty young women no matter what their personality, whether they’re nice or absolutely rotten. This is exactly the point I was making, "bad women" don't get special treatment for being "bad", they're just women. To say men go after shitty women explicitly is just untrue. If there's a gender that has a tendency to gravitate towards bad behavior it's the female one. To answer your question, I think the obvious answer is that women find attention from some men flattering and attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:49 PM
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Do you think these women don’t desperately want male attention and love? That they don’t want men telling them they’re beautiful? That they don’t want admirers trying to woo them? That they don’t like it when guys like you buy them a drink and flatter them? If I take them at their word? No. I'm constantly told male attention is worthless. If you had a half-dozen female admirers, would you really think another 6 women showing interest in you wasn’t also a reward? Yes cause I'm a man, I have to ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:41 PM
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If “everyone would prefer to date men” then how would there be male-female relationships? Obviously there are going to be some lol, there's always some outliers. Listen to testimonies from bisexual women if you don't believe me. Men are less demanding, they expect less from a partner, it's easier to get them and easier to please them. Plus even failing at relationships, gay men would just be having more sex rather than playing hot and cold games with women. The core of it comes down to the fact …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:59 PM
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Just as you try your very hardest to reward the worst women with your own attention and love. All women get attention lol. That's the difference, every type of woman has zero issues attracting a mate. This is just an unfair accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:56 PM
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The assertion that it's only shitty women is one you're making, and I don't necessarily agree with it. But, even if I did agree with you, the fact that those "bad" men get more sexual attention than the norm would imply that the majority of women are shitty. Thus, me, an obviously unattractive man would be setting my standards too high hoping for "non-shitty" women. So if you want them, ask them out already. I did, duh, that's how I know they prefer bad men. But if you’re mad about bad women dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:38 PM
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Why the fuck are you so upset that the goddamned psychotic bitches who want to fuck a serial killer aren’t begging to be your wife? Because nobody else is either. I don't get what's hard to understand. Evil men getting a lot, while I'm getting none looks like women like evil men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:11 PM
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I keep seeing this, but it's just not true. Yeah it's obviously not true lol. If you have any sort of social circle they're going to know, unless you only hangout with stupid people. If you're having sex, then you usually need a partner, the people around you can obviously see if you don't have one. As much as people yap, casual sex isn't really a thing either, if you're obviously not hot enough to get casual sex and you don't have a partner then obviously people will know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:03 PM
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The former is just the latter after they get frustrated. From the "nice guy" memes judgements are made off one interaction, but you don't know how much time the guy spent eating shit before he lashes out, then you get to say "look he was never nice" based on a fragment of one conversation. I promise if someone could go through everything you've ever said or done they could find a snapshot somewhere that paints you as a "nice guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:56 PM
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Its also bullshit because you can be good looking and still catch the L. Everyone can "catch the L", there's nobody that doesn't get rejected sometimes. If you're good looking I can guarantee someone will fuck you, you don't need anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:48 PM
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That said, I think there’s an online narrative of most dudes being shit in bed that doesn’t acknowledge that most women are also shit in bed You have to remember women don't have agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:03 AM
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She wasn't interested and she just has a hard time saying no. One of many possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:35 AM
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I achieve all my goals. Except the one we were discussing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 08:01 PM
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And women deserve an ATM when half of you can't cook anything more complicated than a bowl of cereal. Again your failure to achieve your goals is on you, there are ~4 billion men, figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:57 PM
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Sounds like excuses to me. You can't attract the type of partner you want then it's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:45 PM
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You can do what men do. Make a lot of money then find a mate that will do that. If you want it and don't have it's your own inadequacy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 07:16 PM
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If everyone was bi-sexual there would primarily be male-male and male-female relationships. Female-female would be rare. Dating women is too hard, everyone would prefer to date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:36 PM
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The fact that you believe this shows that you are also chronically online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:54 PM
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Did you... did you just claim that men take more physically taxing, riskier and higher paying jobs to impress women? Yes Do men even exist for themselves, or do they work out, earn money, and choose hobbies expressly to impress women? Mostly for women. Men are far simpler and more easily pleased than women are, they have to put in more than a base level of effort because women demand more. That's why you have the meme about men not having bed frames.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:16 PM
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Ok, but if you accept the premise that due to phone habits, most people are always going to appear to be engaged in something, doesn't the answer to the OP simplify to: "Yes, it is usually inadvisable to approach". I get that context matters, but it sounds like in the most common scenarios you wouldn't advise approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:45 PM
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That increase my chances of being approached. How do you know? Was there a time in your life where you weren't helpful and kind and got fewer approaches. If you don't have a baseline to measure against then you're just speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:30 PM
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A good rule of thumb for these things is ''don't approach people who make it clear they're not interested in talking to people'' - is she working? is she wearing headphones? is she reading something? is she mid workout? Then leave her alone. I'm going to counter and say this is everyone. People are glued to their phones in most settings most of the time. Pretty much everyone always looks like they're engaged in something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:17 PM
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Women like men with money, they talk about it all the time, I don't know why this would be worth arguing. Wealth is a trait in a partner that women weigh more heavily than men do, I'm not sure this statement needs support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:11 PM
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Men are typically the breadwinners in childless marriages as well, so it doesn't seem based on kids, rather it's just based on the fact that women are attracted to men with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:51 PM
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Because pussy. You already know the answer, I don't know why people keep asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 04:37 PM
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So are you going to respond to the content or just pick a sentence?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:41 PM
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Humans have not existed for the entire timeline of earth. People are getting taller, height is not necessarily wholly genetic and even if it was short women can pass on those genes without issue. Your statement that short men wouldn't exist is completely speculative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:40 PM
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It's literally how evolution works, hun. Over what timespan? How do you know it would have happened "by now" based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:27 PM
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If only 6'5 men were getting laid then 5'4 men would have already been bred put of existence by now. How do you know that? Seems like a pretty strong assertion. Even if height was perfectly heritable, men have two parents and short women reproduce just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:36 PM
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people can control how shallow they are Can they? Can you control what type of food you like? I don't see why you'd be able to control how shallow you are honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 01:09 AM
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The same is true of men to be fair. Life crushes the joy out of most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:25 PM
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It’s just simply animalistic, hedonistic and reduces sex, an action between two loving people, to rudimentary pleasure. Sex is a rudimentary pleasure. Lizard brain likes it. People like junk food because it tastes good. There's nothing about sex that requires "love"(whatever that is). The benefit of casual sex is that you get to have sex without having to commit to a person, relationships are a voluntary surrendering of independence and freedom, and if we're being honest, most of them are just f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 05:06 PM
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Probably yeah, whatever his shortcomings he'll just be able achieve more than you can in any area of life you identify. The circumstances you're born in really are the largest factor in how your life turns out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:05 PM
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Sex is the reason men do half of what they do, this isn't speculation. Men are generally more comfortable with less than women are. They put out more effort because they need to compete for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:04 AM
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like money is how we value people in capitalism Women* men would live under a bridge in a cardboard box if they could still get access to women while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:55 PM
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Wealth, status, looks, charisma, intelligence, pick one. You'll find that some people are better than others in every conceivable way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:16 PM
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Couldn't agree more. And based on that value they choose who to sleep with. The guy who's getting more sex is the higher value one, that's completely women's decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 11:15 PM
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This doesn't feel like you're being truthful. You can set out metrics and see that some people are objectively superior to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:51 PM
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They are not. You don't see hot people with ugly partners, and when you do, it's such an oddity that it gets pointed out. If the values you listed were popular you'd see partnering done along that axis, but that's not what you see. Hot people date hot people, rich people date rich people. Unless you are claiming that your looks and social status determine your values, then you know what you're saying isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 09:03 PM
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Everyone values those things above all else, I don't know who you're trying to fool. How you look and how much money you have determines who you can date, this is how we stratify ourselves. It doesn't matter how "good natured" someone is, if he's ugly and poor he'll date ugly and poor women. Those are the factors that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:22 PM
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I find the same. They're sunnier at the very least. Why wouldn't you be when everyone you've ever met has instantly liked you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 07:17 PM
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Again, it's the minority of men that could do it. If the majority of men are the lowest of the low, then I'm high value by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:18 PM
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Women are settled upon, but it's not the same mechanism. Men would hookup with anyone they'd date, men just like sex, it's not only the hot women who can get it for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:05 PM
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Again if I'm a bum what does that make the men who couldn't get my baby momma? Are they less than bums? If that's the case I'm still high value compared to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:03 PM
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Because men like sex and being excluded from it feels bad. guys do the same thing when they say they want to have casual sex with the super hot girls but date the average girl who won’t give them as much male competition and won’t make them work as hard because she has less options than the super hot girl. No, they don't. Hot women don't just hand out sex. Hot women actually have less casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:51 PM
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You say it doesn't mean anything, but again, there are more men that couldn't get a bunch of women pregnant if they tried than those that could. Even in the type of poor communities where this kind of thing happens, it's the minority of men that are doing most of the baby momma making, if they're the ones the women are choosing, how are they low value?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:46 PM
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But who's estimate of value are we taking? I take it that you consider a man that would impregnate women indiscriminately as low value, which is fine. But, who's lower value, a man who indiscriminately sleeps with women, or a man that couldn't even if he tried. I think the latter group is in higher supply personally, and based on who's seeing more success, I'd say the man with baby mommas must be higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:54 PM
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It completely is. I'm using "autistic" here loosely, I don't think you necessarily have to be autistic to be into it, but it is the kind of thing most people are just going to find weird and boring, nobody is gonna wanna hear about it, and it's not even going to count as a hobby in discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:49 PM
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Those are the qualities that get results. The other qualities are tangential. If you're rich and good looking you can get whatever kind of partner you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:42 PM
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Per your title, how is a man's ability to nut into a woman too stupid to be on BC a sign of high value? High value is relative isn't it? When you consider that there are men who can't nut inside a woman who's too dumb to be on BC, and such men aren't in short supply, I don't see how you can say the men who can aren't "high value". If he has multiple baby mommas he's at least higher value than average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:40 PM
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confident and good natured Richest and best looking*
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:34 PM
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It's not solely men, but these are the kinda activities where I expect men to outnumber 5-to-1, especially in public groups for those kinds of things. Getting into trading cards does take a touch of the 'tism. As social as it can be, it also involves a fair amount of time just sitting by yourself moving cardboard around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:23 PM
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Damn near the only thing young people do is go to the club, and even that is dying. If that's not an environment you thrive in, you use apps or you get lucky. (After college age of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:44 PM
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i dont think an average woman would be standoffish just because youre ugly. You think wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:32 PM
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I think the problem with relying on steroids is that you risk losing access to the steroids. If life circumstances switch up such that you're cut off from your current source (whether you face a change of local laws, plugs or clinics) you're now going to have to do without it. They really should be made more readily available, if we're allowed to drink and smoke there's no reason we can't use anabolics.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 07:34 PM
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No. Cheating happens. It sucks. Paternity fraud happens. It sucks. But its rare. Thats like saying every time you go to the doctor we should test you for all the diseases you may have a chance of having. But we don't. Because it's completely impractical. If we could we would, obviously, if it were easy to ensure you don't have a disease why wouldn't you ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:59 AM
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Ok, just in case there's some confusion. "A guy" is not "100 guys". Literally nobody cares if you fuck a guy. If you're an adult people already assume you're fucking a guy. Despite all you say women are disgusted by men who sleep around indiscriminately also, so I don't know why they consistently pretend not to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:10 AM
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And the moment one of them loses weight or otherwise becomes more desirable the relationship is over. Is that really love or is it just a circumstance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:53 PM
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Women get shit for just fucking a guy Can we stop this fiction please, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:44 PM
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I think it's weird that he hasn't had a relationship in 36 years. I don't think it's weird that after 36 years of being single he's lost interest. It can be hard trying to adjust to another person's presence if you're used to being alone. I can see how it can make women seem more annoying than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:40 PM
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Selena Gomez is probably above average, but her weight gain has heavily impacted her looks. Blanco could probably be dating someone hotter if he wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:00 PM
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Lol, every time I see what women describe as ugly my self esteem drops just a little bit more. Granted men are just as bad sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:57 PM
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In environments where women outnumber men you have more short term relationships, when you invert the ratios you have more long term relationships. When men have more latitude to choose you get more casual sex, when they don't you get more relationships. Most men aren't going to have consistent access to sex without a relationship, so it's kind of a false comparison. You can't really say what would make men happier since they don't really have the choice. Women demand commitment, so commitment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:54 AM
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It would exclude the majority of women lol. If that's the case then we should just give up on marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:11 AM
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but the idea that men by definition are happier engaging in casual sex is plainly not true. You know this. How would we know? Casual sex really isn't that common in the grand scheme of things. You can make the claim that men aren't generally happier having casual sex, but given casual sex isn't really on the menu for most, there aren't really two roads to explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:09 AM
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I don't know how that could be true m8. Genes and environment predict pretty much everything about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:48 AM
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Men's standards for sex are lower because they find a wider range of women attractive. I don't believe the level of risk has anything to do with it, women just don't have much interest in sex with most men they come across. They bend rules for attractive men, because those are the only ones that turn them on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:15 PM
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Years ago I would have agreed with you, but the bar for impressive physique has raised. There are way more muscular guys than there used to be
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:09 AM
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they’ve spent months at the gym and improve their appearance Serious improvement at the gym takes years, after only a few months they'll look basically the same
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:42 AM
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You probably don't have much control over your personality way before 18. From I've what I've read people can't really intentionally change their personalities, but personality can change as a trauma response. So, you have to experience things and see how your personality goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:27 PM
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Because chemistry is secondary and will be more likely where there is physical attraction. Part of what makes a conversation enjoyable is engagement from both parties, without physical attraction from one party they are not going to be engaged. Physical attractiveness is a component of chemistry and if someone is physically attracted to another person that will project compatibility onto them where there is none. Looks are the primary factor at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:15 PM
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Men don't like being used as an atm, but they obviously do just a little bit. I unironically think this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:13 PM
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There are also brain dead people that are technically alive. Just being alive doesn't mean you have a life. People don't do well without social connections, there are some people who do fine without sex, but for most not having sex, if nothing else, is a sign they aren't doing well socially. People with limited social connections do actually get physically ill. There are other types of social connections, however the way modern society is structured means that the majority of social interaction …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:08 PM
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The only people who think sex is not a big deal, is people who already have access to it. It's like food, food isn't a big deal unless you're starving, then food would basically be all you think about. Sex is critical to most people's social lives and those without access to it have failed socially, it is objectively a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:00 PM
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Sex is probably the most important thing in life. People who say it's not a big deal are just trying to make you feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:54 PM
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Q4M: If a random woman attacked you, would you expect your girlfriend/wife to fight her off for you? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:51 PM
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Fortunately most women don't find men attractive with enough regularity for that to be a problem. Most of them haven't met 50 men they wanted to fuck by 24, so you don't have to worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 09:37 PM
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He was probably never very hot and is only getting less hot. It's more exciting to have sex with hot people. It's going to be a challenge for anyone to accept that they'll never have the opportunity to sleep with a hot person. I think it just didn't hit her till sex started getting routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:07 PM
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Men just like sex. It really isn't that deep. Men don't need a deeper reason to have sex, they just like sex for the sake of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:54 PM
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Because the ability to get women to have sex with you is a value statement. If you can only get sex from a woman that's had a lot of partners, it means you're low value. Men don't want to be low value. It all stems from the fact that getting women to have sex is challenging, women are the root cause. Women guard sex, so men are going to feel like something's wrong with you if you don't. You're chicken and egging this in the wrong direction, as a woman you have no interest in having sex with most…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:44 PM
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My experience has been different, I've been obese and I've been fit. The difference is night and day, once you're better looking people say everything about you is better. All of a sudden you're also funny, smart and kind. People are shallow and women are no less shallow than men are. I've never had a problem keeping women's interest once I've had it, my biggest issue was always getting interest from them in the first place. There's a lot of things you take for granted when you're on the right s…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:29 PM
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No, because men like sex without caveat and women don't. Women engage in hookups and expect the dude to call after, men don't do that. Men enjoy sex for the sake of sex, women want more out of sex than just sex. Fear of being used for sex, is a purely internal problem, it's more like a fear of not getting what you want out of sex. In other words, women don't like to have sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:36 PM
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It can though. Why do you insist it won’t? Great, but see the idea that "being used for sex is the worst thing that can happen to a woman" doesn't come from men, it comes from women. Women worry about it, I imagine most men can't even relate to that worry. Men just like having sex and have a hard time viewing sex with an attractive partner as a negative under any circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:26 PM
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It's true though. Every woman has a past. And if you're still young she's likely to have more of a past than you do, since women start dating sooner and more easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:10 PM
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Women talk about getting used for sex like it's the worst thing that can happen to them. Most of them are literally afraid of it, like it can hurt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:07 PM
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Well I mean, even with this story they're still pretty obviously less horny than men. Just about any woman would get that reaction from men, not just the super hot ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:00 AM
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The other thing is successful people don't necessarily know what brings them success. The guys with the most success with women have had success pretty much their entire lives. They're going to tell you what they think it is, but they don't necessarily know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:45 AM
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As someone who's been on either side of attractive. There's truth to what you're saying, but looks make a way bigger difference. If you're too unattractive a lot of women will literally ignore you, no amount of game is going to help, because they weren't listening to whatever you were saying they just wait for you to stop talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:39 AM
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There are plenty of all-male friend groups where they're all losers. Having friends on its own doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:32 AM
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Men act like the worst thing that could happen to a woman is to be used for sex and then discarded or in a situationship with a man who doesn’t respect her. Excuse me? It's men that act like this? Women talk like this is tantamount to a war crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:24 AM
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Well I can't say for sure. Seems strange that there's such a sharp divide. I suppose one explanation could be an uptick in immigration amongst the younger cohort. If most immigrants are young men it would create a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:22 AM
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Only thing that's changed is that men don't die as young as they used to. Boys are born at a higher rate, so there'll always be excess men, just that more of the excess used to die before adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:07 AM
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Bullying just makes people create defence mechanisms they'll have to unlearn when they're older, it's not constructive at all. Weird kids don't fit in when bullied, they just learn how to avoid the bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:45 AM
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This really feels like water wet. Bullies have power, power is attractive. Life doesn't reward you for being a good person, nor does it punish you for being a bad one. You get what you get based on the value you provide. In this case a bully is more valuable than average and certainly more valuable than the bullied.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:40 AM
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"Good partner" is subjective I suppose, but he's is obviously not a desirable partner, and that's what really matters. He's either not good looking, socially awkward, broke or all three. Women don't like those traits, if he didn't have one or all of those traits he would have had somebody. People can change of course, so if he now becomes desirable he won't really have to negotiate with women, he'll just be able to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:59 AM
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Because people are stupid and have garbage taste. Maybe, but it's their taste that matters, it doesn't matter if you think you're good if women disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:38 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:28 AM
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If he were a good option he'd have experience bro, we have to keep the cope to a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 02:24 AM
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I don't know that intelligence was ever valued in dating. You've made the assumption that the intelligent people are the ones with the most resources, and that isn't true. The people with the most resources are the people whose parents had the most resources. That's the way it is, that's the way it was, that's the way it will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 12:55 AM
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Indeed, concentrated amongst older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:11 AM
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63% of men under 30 being single. Not by choice. Majority of men in that range said they wanted a relationship (either long term or short term). They're just failing to secure them. The single men that weren't interested in relationships were concentrated more in older age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:19 AM
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That contradicts the current reality of victimhood having social currency and power to change culture to suit your own (group's) needs by giving people a "it's because I'm [minority group]" card to play. It's just in vogue to act like you care, but only about certain issues, men's issues aren't currently amongst them, I've been noticing an uptick in content about men struggling to date, so maybe that'll join the conversation soon. Either way people won't care, they'll only pretend to. You're not…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:36 AM
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It doesn't really matter. Life is unfair. Nobody really cares about other people's challenges. If you have a problem it's your responsibility to fix it, nobody is even going to pretend to care (unless it's trendy to do so). If your problems are out of your control, well that's just how it is, no one else will do anything about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:51 AM
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That implies neutral. Women seem to view most men's attention as actively negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:06 PM
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True, but there are also fewer men they're going to want. They do kind of have a restriction just based on being too hot to date most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:22 PM
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The most attractive women I know are either in and out of relationships where they get cheated on or married to rich, attractive men. I think both for the same reason. Very attractive women only date very attractive men, so either he commits to her and she has a desirable husband, or he doesn't and has a trillion options to replace her with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 01:16 PM
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A woman can have sex if she wants. A man can have sex if some woman wants to have sex with him. Women are the limiting factor within heterosexual pairings, as a woman it is a given that some man is willing to have sex with you. Men have higher sex drives and thus have more frequent and more intense desire for sex than women, thus women have the greater negotiating power.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:42 AM
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No because women aren't attracted to most men and they see men they aren't attracted to as garbage, so to them it's like having a buffet of garbage. You'll see replies to this effect already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:28 AM
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Men move fast, because slow doesn't work. Later is usually never.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 01:14 AM
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Men pursuing women also stems from the idea that women are not agents in their love/sex lives but things to be conquered. This is kinda how women are though, at least in terms of romance. They don't really act with much agency they kind of just respond to stimuli. Whether that's nature or nurture I can't say.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:37 PM
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If Beyonce or Taylor Swift said that dismemberment was in style, you'd have an uptick of women with missing limbs. They do have their heroes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:24 PM
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Unless you're literally a child the odds of that aren't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:55 PM
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why can't any inc*l just hit the gym and get laid like a woman would be able to? To get laid as easily as a woman you'd have to be a celebrity. Becoming noticeably muscular takes years and most people aren't going to be consistent enough for long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:26 AM
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IDK if that's really a "solution" cause that doesn't work either lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:35 PM
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Sex gets boring for everyone, that's why in marriage it usually stops at some point. I just don't think monogamy works for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 02:30 PM
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Not really, humans on average are already way more intelligent than we need to be just for survival. Since all the vast majority of humans are already extremely intelligent you don't really have to select for it explicitly, it can be obtained from any mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:14 AM
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What if he just doesn't say anything on the topic and just lets her believe whatever she wants. A lot of times the men don't even lie, the women just assume. "We'll see where it goes" is "no", this is not so different from the euphemisms women use when rejecting men. You can take a hint you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:09 AM
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New pussy is always better, sleeping with one woman gets boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:00 AM
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You realize having sex =\= having an orgasm for women. Question, do women only like sex if they orgasm, cause that sounds suspect. Finding someone good at sex is just as difficult as finding someone decent to date. Just find someone attractive, that's a big part of it, and we both know it, if you can't do that, then I guess you're out of luck on that front. Maybe one for every 25? If that, honestly. I don't know where you stand on the topic, but this is pretty much inline with Red pill 80/20 stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:03 AM
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I appreciate that. I also appreciate that they're making it out to be way harder than it is. A woman can easily find a man a day if they wanted, you mean to tell me with that amount of access they can't find a reliable partner. Like I get that they might not want to do it, but it's definitely not because it's hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:52 AM
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You just need 1, statistically he's likely to be available for his entire 20s. Granted I suppose you would have no way of having that insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:36 PM
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Women have basically limitless selection, it cannot be all that much of a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:09 PM
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Men only count of they're at the top. There are 260k homeless men, in America, but men have an advantage based on the ~700 dudes that are billionaires, the rest of the men don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:35 PM
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it’s an absolute nuisance. Why? Just have sex, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:50 PM
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Lol, I thought it was evident from what I said that I just don't think what you're saying is true. But no point in arguing against your alternate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:18 PM
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I guess it was probably easier to cheat back then as there was no digital footprint to follow. Nah, she knew, she just didn't have much recourse, but I'm sure it contributed to the violence. I think men and women still need eachother like our grandparents did but in different ways and for different reasons. If anything I think it’s more special because we all have the capacity to be self sufficient, so choosing to merge your life with someone as an act of free will ks more romantic than an act o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:35 PM
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from what I heard from my grandparents, it was common for men of that time to hand over their entire paycheque to their wife who would handle the entire homes finances and then give her husband an allowance. Yeah my grandfather did that I'm told, sounds romantic to me, but he would then go out and get drunk and sleep with another woman, which I guess dampens it. Domestic abuse from women was also a lot more accepted, they’d joke about waiting up for your husband with a frying pan in hand when he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:08 PM
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My grandfather essentially had 2 wives his entire adulthood. One he was actually married to (my grandmother) and another woman he was seeing that he thought was more attractive, IDK why he never married her instead. He wasn't educated beyond primary school (what Americans call elementary) and I doubt he even completed that. I assume my grandmother would have divorced him if she could, but they were both born in extreme poverty and he managed to claw his way up to owning some land which he used f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:49 PM
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I agree with you largely. People's ideas of what's "boring" and what's"interesting" is pretty culturally dependent. Despite the fact that the cheerleader is likely more similar to other cheerleaders than the nerd is to other nerds, she will be seen as more interesting, which goes back to what I said earlier, what people call boring has more to do with optics than depth. Which is not to say the cheerleader is boring, she's just not innately less boring than the chess guy at the end of the day, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 05:27 PM
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Social media, you have to care because Twitter says so. I kind of miss the days when we were all more ignorant to be honest, we could know what thoughts people actually formed instead of hearing them repeat positions you already read on your TL
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:47 AM
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Although I largely agree with the points you're making, I think in the given scenario he would be perceived as boring True, and I suppose ultimately that is more important than whether or not he is actually boring. Of course, he may have turned out like that because nobody ever included him and gave him a reason to believe he could hang with other people and get stupid at a party without having to hide in the corner pretending he actually has a social purpose there, but that's another discussion…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:07 AM
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Maybe so, but not everybody is gonna get the stake. Sometimes your options are McDonald's, mystery meat or nothing. You'll go with McDonald's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:39 AM
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It's a damn shame that porn trained most men to find the same type of women sexually attractive, but most men can't pull porn-type girls. Men find pretty much all women sexually attractive. That's the problem, boring men can't just go for boring women, because they can get somebody else. There aren't hoards of wallflowers waiting around for similar men, if they want someone, they can get someone, and unfortunately being boring isn't desirable to anyone, so boring women aren't going to want to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:44 PM
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Right, but that's not necessarily someone who's as boring as she is. In fact people can be "boring" for a lot of reasons, not every homebody is really an introvert, some are just shy for various reasons. A more outgoing partner might put her in the kind of environments she actually wants to be in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:33 PM
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Do you have any idea what sort of dedication and personality it takes to make a team? I was on a rugby team in highschool and it wasn't really anything special. I just trained when I was supposed to, and played as we practiced, it's not the NFL, it's a high school team, its not that serious. She'd better be, for her own mental health, because the quarterback isn't going to be happy with an asocial homebody. Sure, but there exists more than just the 2 extremes. Not everyone on a sports team is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:26 PM
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Do those people who are "boring" pursue women and men who are not boring? Doesn't really matter for a couple of reasons. Does the President of the Chess Club feel he has a chance with the Head Cheerleader? The president of the chess club (in stereotype) isn't necessarily more boring than the cheerleader, he's just less attractive. I find attractive people are often quite boring, because they never really had to go find ways to socialize, the socializing comes to them. They get be less open minde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:15 PM
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Well unfortunately we decided to organize in a democracy rather than a dictatorship. The states with abortion bans are the states where abortion bans are popular amongst voters, and as most voters are women it's more on women really. I don't know if it can be argued to be an attempt to control women when it is largely giving women what they want. If women came to 100% consensus on abortion there would be no question, however the reality is that women are split on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:44 PM
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It's not, but if I were to venture a guess as to why some men care so much about, it might have something to do with trying to recapture the innocence of young love. No crush hits quite as hard, as the one you had on a girl in the 5th grade who didn't know you existed, I think some people might believe that being with a virgin would give them a similar feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:00 PM
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I say this to mean, that if there existed one person perfect for you who you would love and be more compatible with than anyone else, then hey would be gone before you ever even met them, because they must be great. Maybe not literally 16, or maybe she just lives far away. Either way the odds of being with your absolute best match are pretty much zero. So there must be some amount of compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 05:20 AM
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strong sexual and emotional attraction Might be a hot take, but not everybody is going to find this. Sometimes you're going to have to just see if goals and values align and think of the practicalities. Both Catholic and want kids? Make decent money between you? That might just have to be good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:55 AM
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You don't really have forever to figure it out though. First draft picks are gone pretty early. Realistically your soulmate was off the market at 16, you'll have to make it work with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:35 AM
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Did you reply to the wrong person? I literally just want to bitch and moan. Sue me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:25 PM
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just don’t wanna hear any more men complaining about how men don’t have rights like women do then. Who cares what you want? People have the right to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:53 PM
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True, true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 06:48 PM
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Do you not realize how unfair it is that you get to decide at what point it's acceptable? Obviously the point you select is whatever point you don't personally feel guilty about it. Either it's right or it's wrong. Nobody is stopping you from doing wrong if that's what you want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:54 PM
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Depends on who's perspective. When women have the ability to choose, more of them choose not to have children. Sounds like women's emancipation is good for them, and they are part of society. That there are some downsides to women's liberation seems to be true, but there are downsides to everything. Everything has a cost, and I don't think it's morally permissible to make decisions for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:46 PM
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5% makes a difference too, that alone means monogamy isn't going to work out for some people. But must shortages are on the women's end in pretty much every category.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 03:13 PM
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That there are more men than women seems like a pretty big factor, and I don't understand why it doesn't come up more given all the discussion of "dating equality" that gets thrown around. It literally can't be equal, some men have to get left out, there's no way around it. Hence access to relationships with women are going to be more competitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:52 PM
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Don't take the bait, they are the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:04 AM
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Yeah, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:01 AM
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I agree. In fact, I think it's worth calling the bluff on women who say they'd terminate the relationships over it. However, this "lol, shrug" attitude would never be taken to any woman's issue. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:30 AM
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I'm trying to understand what the opposition is to. Is it on the principle, or on the price? If it's in principle then eliminating paternity fraud, is worth forgoing this silly pride. It's an I'll that exists and it shouldn't. If it's on the price, then fair play, it may not be viable and I don't have numbers to say that it is. You're making it sound like a paternity test is some harmful procedure however, when it's effectively spitting on a cotton swab.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:11 AM
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This is a class of men who are often included in "paternity fraud" statistics I don't believe this to be the case, I think you're just guessing. Who is handling these records if not the state? I'm sorry, when you get an STD test do you send those records to the state? You don't, it's private information.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:05 AM
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Plus there are innumerable cases where the "father" on the birth certificate is not or may not be the biological father, but it is known by both the mother and the father. Then that obviously wouldn't be a problem. It's a test not a directive on how to live your life. Yes, they would. No, they wouldn't. The government isn't given the right to access all your test results.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:58 AM
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Normal women with no red flags for cheating or a history of infidelity are asking to not be accused of that. You must realize this includes women who have just never been caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:56 AM
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Normal women with no red flags for cheating or a history of infidelity are asking to not be accused of that. You must realize this includes women who have just never been caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:56 AM
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Is the contention here that paternity testing is too expensive? Do your feelings change if it were free?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:49 AM
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A ton How much, and what is the amount that is too much? If I want to be charitable estimates of paternity fraud median out at 3.7%, which isn't rare, that's like one kid, out of every classroom you've ever been in. What price can you put on that, and why do you get to decide what is worth it? Plus it represents a huge government overreach since they'd have a record of every child's DNA + that of the father. No, they wouldn't. This already falls under medical information which the government doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:46 AM
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That's a lot of assertions you're making about an idea with no implementation plan. Infants already go through a series of tests at birth. What's one more ? I assume you aren't opposed to any other tests, despite you having to pay for those too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:32 AM
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The difference is that a paternity test is a low cost proposition that doesn't hinder you in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:19 AM
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As I said in the other thread: I don't know why preventing paternity fraud needs so much justification, but that shows how issues are viewed when they don't affect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 02:07 AM
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They assume if you're not hot you're also not good, so it doesn't need a separate mention. It's that horns effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:32 AM
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Lol, who even said "Low value women only serve one purpose"? It sounds like it's really just something she thinks/fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:22 PM
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One of the scariest sentiments ive read on here being totally honest. So dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 12:03 AM
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Either. Men's friend groups also tend to be closed and resistant to additions. While I agree men tend to be more friendly towards strangers than women in general, this friendliness is expressed more readily to women than it is to other men. Additionally, if you think befriending women is difficult as a woman, you should try it as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:54 PM
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And there are men everywhere. Besides women are also more open to other women than they are to men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:21 PM
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I'm with you, women are wanted everywhere and people want women around. You'll never find a group that is really that invested in getting more single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:35 PM
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I don't believe you. Checkmate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:27 PM
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What is "work" supposed to mean? If she wants you she'll appreciate it, if she doesn't she won't. If she wants you it won't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:22 PM
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Lol. Ignores what I wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:55 PM
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Plus men had a head start in controlling women so to a lot of women, this is them trying to balance it out. This needs to die. Men aren't a group that acts together in the interest of men, it doesn't work like that. Men don't have a headstart on anything. This mirrors the way people talk about racial prejudice, but it doesn't work the same. White people have, white parents and this will inherit any benefits of prejudice from them. Every woman has a father, if her father gains benefits from being…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:16 PM
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You can just use porn. Try to remember that you have to keep dealing with a woman after sex and most of them aren't very entertaining company.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:09 AM
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Bro just cause grandparents are still together doesn’t mean they weren’t cheating. My grandparents were together till death and my grandfather was cheating the entire time lol. My parents are still together for 30 years and my dad still actively cheats. They're just too old and poor to get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 03:20 AM
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My mom did the same. If it helps, it's happened to other people I know too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 01:10 AM
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It is equivalent yes. But, I'm sure somebody will be willing to break their back in half to pretend there's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 11:24 PM
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I would like fewer people in the gym, yes thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:34 PM
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Nah, men are just more interested in women than vice versa, there's no other factors that matter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:19 PM
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Women operate off the Starbucks logic. It's what women say is good so most women drink it. So it's not my imagination, that pumpkin spice drink is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:32 PM
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I think B is the default to be honest. B is the default, but people pretend it's A after the fact. If two people were attracted to each other they wouldn't be friends, they'd be dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 04:30 PM
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They aren't used to people doing anything other than kissing their ass
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:04 AM
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Goooood Women deserve less
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 03:02 AM
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Oh so now it's a competition? Put down the fork and stop bitching
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:53 AM
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I went on Twitter and typed in "short men" https://twitter.com/joanneeele https://twitter.com/milan_zaharah/status/1732364368061337743 https://x.com/Zhai_nah/status/1732095116955779107?s=20 What are you on? Women do it all the fucking time, it's just ok when they do it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:46 AM
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Do you keep this energy for women that air their grievances on social media? No? I figured not. Cry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 02:41 AM
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Neither of those things are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 01:56 AM
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might help out. Spoiler: it won't
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:43 PM
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Will they? Isn't that Margot Robbie thing just something one dude tweeted?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 11:22 PM
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Or, young women are more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 10:46 PM
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Because single women are single by choice. Obviously single people who want to be single are going to view it differently than single people that don't want to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:26 PM
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The perception of pretty much every positive trait is enhanced by looks. No matter what trait you value in a partner, looks play into it. Humor is a common trait cited as beneficial for dating, especially for men, but attractive people are rated as funnier. I don't have scales to measure these things, but I'd assume average people have average personalities. Stands to reason most attractive people also have average personalities, except because of the aforementioned effect, such attractive peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:56 PM
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No, it would be akin to going through a shared phone. You're both supposed to have access. The child's paternity is not private information.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:28 PM
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It is not a ridiculous claim. Women just tend to not count people they don't want. Men catcalling, or asking for their number, or otherwise trying to get their attention, are interested parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:27 PM
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No matter how refined the gene pool, the top 20 are still going to be the desired ones. It's a relative scale and not an absolute one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:22 PM
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Based on what? Do you know women who have only been approached once or who have never rejected anyone? Anyone who doesn't get picked loses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:18 PM
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Never anywhere. I've known women with 0 people interested, though rarely. But if there's one, there's many. Any man who's rejected has effectively lost to whoever she's picked. That's a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:14 PM
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Completely untrue. I've never met a woman who only had 1 person interested in them. Every guy she didn't pick lost the competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:09 PM
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You don't know that. How would you know how many warm approaches fail? How do you even define a warm approach as having been completed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:12 AM
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It's really just a way of getting them to shut up. People want to believe dating issues are caused by personality. If pressed about what they think is wrong with your personality they're just going to use the fact that you raised an issue at all as proof that your personality is the problem. The implication is that people with good personalities would just shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:53 PM
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You come from the same culture and already know what people mean by "fat".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:39 PM
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If you were a woman it might have worked lol. Forgive her she lived on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 11:51 PM
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If it's as high as 2% then that's more common than cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:07 PM
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It doesn't matter if you correct them. If they are understood then communication is complete.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:14 PM
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I agree in principle, but what Americans think of as "fat" is actually morbidly obese, not just people over the healthy (19-21) BMI
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:22 PM
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Proved your point, to you, in your head. This will convince nobody else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:00 AM
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Once I figure out how to access my patriarchy powers you'll all be joining them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:00 AM
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In order to test every birth we'd have to greatly expand said infrastructure in every facet. More labs, more trained lab-techs, etc etc. By how much? People always assert this, but I feel like it's just saying something you'd prefer to be true. Would it be prohibitively expensive? I've never seen a number.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:48 AM
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That tells me looks are required to get in the door but not remotely enough for any type of solid relationship. Sure but that doesn't discount looks being the most important factor, this just indicates they aren't the only factor. If humor and personality are also important factors, then as a side effect of being better looking, you're also going to be, in the eyes of others, funnier and have a better personality. In other words if you want to be thought of as funnier, the most effective thing y…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:01 PM
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a woman agrees to go on a first date with a man b/c he's decent looking enough despite not quite being her type, but sticks with him b/c of his personality and humor, that means his personality and humor are #1. Is getting that initial date not typically the biggest challenge though? How often is this really happening? Good looking people are also perceived as having better personalities, so looks give you the most bang for your buck, better looking people will pass more looks threshold and are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:23 PM
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People who beg or demand empathy typically don’t have empathy for other people. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:30 PM
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What on god's green earth would give her (or me) the authority to order a test on someone else's baby? Do you not see the difference? I'm not being identified as the father, that baby is none of my business, and it's definitely none of her business. By the same token, if I am being identified as the father, should I not have the right to test my own baby? I am being made a father, it's a big deal, nothing wrong with being 100% certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:28 AM
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I understand children learning from fiction because they are children. Children then become adults. They then say they were lied to. You outlined the entire Disney kid to nice guy pipeline in your post, so what is your question? They can't become adults and then go back in time and not learn the things they learned as children. Our childhood experiences are more deeply ingrained than any others, they don't just disappear from your psyche. Every generation from boomers onward has basically been r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:38 PM
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Kindness isn't a trait used in mate selection, if someone thinks you're "ugly" no amount of kindness is going to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:17 AM
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Agreed. Paternity fraud occurs. It is possible for paternity fraud to not occur. It would be relatively inexpensive to eliminate. That women respond so strongly to it just goes to show how little they care about men. If men were the ones to give birth testing would be mandatory and nobody can convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:34 PM
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That's true, but we all have weaknesses.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:49 PM
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Did you see your father flirt with or be physically affectionate with your mother? Nope Did you see your mother flirt with or be physically affectionate with your father? Nope If there were problems, what were they and how aware of them were you? Money was the main one, household tasks were the secondary. They both complained about them constantly. My father hid assets with a girlfriend when he suspected a divorce was coming. He slipped up on hiding documentation, so my Mom discovered the girlfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:45 PM
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If he can fuck online, why does he need game? He can just get laid online.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:28 PM
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If a man is faithful for 20 years and cheats once, how would you have vetted against that? Detail a method.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:18 PM
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Lmao there it is. You can't vet for faithfulness is the point I was making that you refused to engage with. But, men can test that a child is theirs and thus should.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:15 PM
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So as long as she doesn't have proof it's not a problem? I'll be sure to tell the boys to be sneakier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:12 PM
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If a man is faithful for 20 years and then cheats once. Is he faithful or unfaithful and how do you vet for that ? You can't vet for faithfulness, it's not a personality trait, it's a state.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:58 PM
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because they dont want to put in the time to observe if she’s a faithful person Is every woman that ever got cheated on also at fault for not making this observation? The obvious answer is that people are faithful until they're not. Then once they become unfaithful they're going to attempt to hide it. There is no way to observe it, all you can do is assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:51 PM
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All these reasons women invent to reject men they weren't interested in anyway. No it wouldn't be a turnoff. If she's clingy to the point of being annoying we can work through it, if as I'm attracted to her as the premise states, I don't see why this would be a problem. People with that level of interest don't just show up every day, it would be a waste to pass up on the opportunity because she's too interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:08 AM
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These type of women end up getting approached the least since they "don't give it up easy" and are a "waste of time" compared to other "easier" woman who are more willing to date/have sex earlier on. How would anyone know this, unless they actually approached you? The party girls are more visible. If you spend a lot of time at home, or in closed groups it's gonna be hard for men to meet you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:40 AM
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But I can deny it. "Just go look" isn't reliable, because it depends where you look, and even then you're just going to see what you want to see. Go out in a major city on a Friday night, and most of the couples around are going to be attractive, especially in the younger demographics. There are some places, where you're more likely to see unattractive couples, but they aren't places where singles hang out, so I don't know what that even implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:41 PM
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I don't think anything you've said is in contradiction to what I've said.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:06 PM
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Looks, money and status are the things that make women "love" men. This idea that connections are unique and special is a fantasy. The world is harder than that, nobody just loves anyone outside of what they provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:11 PM
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The man doesn't have more options for LTRs though, what would make you think they do ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:03 PM
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Well presumably they would have paid taxes their entire lives. By the time they're old they would have contributed more than any currently working young person. What gives the young more right to those contributions than the old? The real solution is to minimize taxation and have everyone fend for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:59 PM
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Do they not enjoy sex? No. If they did we wouldn't be having this discussion. Women use sex as a tool to secure relationships. They don't enjoy sex for the sake of sex like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:49 PM
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She is talks about how she was met on a first date by a guy who bought her flowers and opened her door for her etc. Women don't care. That stuff just makes you look desperate and is more likely to turn them off. Her first reaction was to get on group chat with her friends and say that the guy is weird. See. Women don't care how you treat them, it really just comes down to whether they're attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:40 PM
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Physically women aren't attracted to most men in general. They don't enter relationships for physical attractiveness especially not as they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:44 AM
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Women do find youth attractive, they just aren't physically attracted to very many men, so it doesn't matter as much either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 05:42 AM
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Doesn't make sense to me.Hot people go out more, and to more places. They have more active social lives. If you're a young person and you go to socialize like a young person, you will notice most of the couples are attractive. Which is going to indicate the opposite of what you're saying. I remember a person posted on here some time ago, that they went to a music festival and all the couples were attractive. People in the replies basically told him, that when they said touch grass, they literall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:47 AM
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Yeah, sounds like a real intellectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:54 PM
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Some women are afraid to leave their violent partners. Love the excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:47 PM
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You don't know if I whine in real life, you don't know me at all. I know that women sleep with rapists and child abusers all the time however, so if whiny is considered worse than that, then says more about women than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:29 PM
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They somehow believe the Lizzo bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:46 PM
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Incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:31 PM
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I agree, I think more men should just be effectively Stacy Only, to lazily use a descriptor, if you fail you're just going to be accused of aiming too high anyway, may as well make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:36 AM
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They give up and settle, which is the same thing men do to be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:29 AM
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They don't
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:24 AM
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Does it matter? At least he gets to sleep with her. Look at it this way. People get married ~30, sex drive starts to fall off at ~40 , we die at 80. That's 40 years of somebody probably being all that into sex, no shame in sleeping with a less than enthusiastic partner, at some point most of us will.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:52 AM
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Good argument, but counter balance that with 4 women, idk, sounds like a deal to me. Besides I don't know which guy in particular you are talking about, but I doubt they exactly had an enthusiastic partner in waiting anyway, so what difference does it make?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:21 AM
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Like come on, this isn’t the flex men think it is. I don't want to flex, I want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:09 AM
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If that's the case, then how is a particular way of being treated "not human"? However you get treated is equally "human" treatment. You could assert that a man treats all women as a collective rather than as individuals, but how could you possibly know that? How he's treating you, is how he's treating you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:30 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:18 PM
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Albie's the guy we pass over till we're old, boring, bitter and unattractive, after we realize we can't get who we really want. (Albie should be happy about this btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:55 PM
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They did. People are generally less attractive today than they were 80 years ago. The ideals have however shifted upwards. Compare Christopher Reeves' Superman to Henry Cavil's Superman as a quick example. Reeves' is a handsome man, but nobody would take him seriously as "Superman" today. Also pro body builders don't think they're attractive, but the standard for "looks like he works out" is definitely higher than it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:22 PM
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What people are attracted to isn't completely natural though, it's clear the internet has influenced standards. Men that passed as sex symbols 80 years ago would be considered average (or below) today. There's definitely been a standard creep in terms of ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:45 PM
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The bar is in hell for the traits women claim to want, because those aren't the traits that actually attract partners. The phrase is usually bandied about in terms of things like kindness and thoughtfulness, but unfortunately nobody really cares about those traits, even if they say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:40 PM
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A man rejecting the zero women interested in him will not get him the bare minimum type woman he wants. I don't think most women can really imagine what it's like. I think when you say that you have zero people to vet they just don't believe you, because they've had dating options pretty much since the moment they obtained sentience. It doesn't sound real to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:27 PM
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Maybe there are some ways to not be rude or scary you could explore. It's easy, just be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:14 AM
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You ever say "hello" and see a woman's eyes widen in fear? No? I didn't think so. There's no such thing as human treatment, different people get different responses. I know you don't think every man's words carry weight, men don't get respect just for being men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 01:03 AM
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It is very much the same as if a man, dips after sex. As long as you consented, you can't complain. He got what he needed out of the interaction, so he's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:19 PM
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They read in to everything you do and think everything is a secret sign or an ulterior motive. I agree this is dumb, but this is advice that gets given out often unfortunately. Google "how to know if a girl likes me" and you'll find wikiHow is going to give you an article telling you to do exactly this. People look for signs where there are none because they're desperate and guided to do so. I realize that it's hard to look at a young man in the face and say to him "chances are most girls aren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:57 PM
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Did I say romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:25 PM
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The men who get positive responses when they say "hi", the attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:17 PM
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Like they are an idea, or a problem, or a prize, or a concept rather than just another individual. My counter to this is that it's hard for romantically unsuccessful men not to do this. Appreciate that women don't really treat men like "people" either. There's a good chance your interactions with women look very different from your interactions with men. If you're a particularly unappealing man, there's a good chance that the majority of your interactions with women end with being brushed off or…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:15 PM
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You're putting the cart before the horse. The men with women around them are the ones women wanted to be around in the first place. You may notice they're outgoing or you may notice they're attractive, everything else is your imagination (just world etc etc). Most women are skittish, interacting with them is hard. If you don't have a prior introduction or just good looks, adding them to your circle is hard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:56 PM
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This right here is why women say this so much. The saying is to treat us as humans That doesn't mean anything. There's no universal way humans are treated. The guys that are terrified of even talking to women. There is a good reason to be afraid of talking to women. Women are more easily made uncomfortable than men, so interacting with them has to be done more carefully. There's nothing that can be done about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:44 PM
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Which men have no problem working with women, studying with women, or chatting with female strangers of any age? I like how you think there's any pattern to notice. The men who have no problem interacting with women are the ones who get positive responses when they say "hi", that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:40 PM
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like they’re normal humans This is the problem with the phrase. This doesn't mean anything. There's no universal way that "normal humans" are treated. Different people are treated differently in different contexts. To me instinctively the phrase sounds like it's meant to mean treat women as you would treat a man, but that's not what people mean either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:34 PM
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I was around 180 in 7th grade, not quite so heavy, but still way heavier than the other children. Even then people kept telling me, my personality was the problem lol. It was definitely worse for my self esteem to be fed this narrative, that for as long as I could remember I'd just had a fundamentally bad personality. Once I lost the weight I had more friends and even some girls developing crushes on me. Two instances of girls I'd literally never spoken to saying they liked my personality. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:12 PM
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I was obese in childhood and lost weight somewhere between the ages of 16 and 18. Before that point I didn't even know that walking up and starting conversations was something human people did, especially not girls. Blackpill is the only pill, you can disagree with the extremes of it, but it's central premise, that looks are what matters most is just true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:10 PM
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I have female friends. I've heard almost all of them complain at some point about not being able to find a man in front of dudes who have been pinging after them (sometimes for years). Maybe this particular woman isn't as fortunate, but I generally can't take this complaint seriously from women. A man in the same position would never be taken seriously. Most men aren't in a position to say: "I know I could just hop on an app, but..." Or "None of the women approached me in a respectful way" With …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:33 PM
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I love how this is said in a sub that literally believes “all women are like that” aka AWALT. Unless you agree with the statement AWALT, this isn't much of an argument. Hot people aren't bad, ugly people aren't good. People aren't stereotypes. All your 10 clips prove is that there are at least some women who look down on men for being vulnerable. Anything else is just your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:55 PM
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These are typically the bitchy mean girl, Regina George type I thought you could separate real life from TV. People aren't tropes. Your entire thought process here is tied to the teen movie notion that these are the shitty people because they're good looking. The ugly people couldn't possibly also be shitty. This is incel vs. Chad rhetoric with the genders swapped.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:24 PM
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Wait, is living that long really something people want, or are you joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:54 PM
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And what's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:52 PM
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Nothing is special. But if the only difference between friendship and romance is sex, then romance is sex. This is actually something I agree with, but I know it's not a popular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:41 PM
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I can’t remember the exact reason though To win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:40 PM
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I used gym showers and changing rooms, and have never once needed to be out naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 08:38 PM
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Y'all always have to create an equivalence huh? At this point idk if it's taught or just natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:26 PM
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Red pill men maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 04:01 PM
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Because men were never allowed to have standards in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:41 PM
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Depending on the scale you want to look at, that's a big difference. If we're considering the entire world, then that's a big difference. The global birth rate is ~140 million a year. That translates to ~3 million boys born a year who are necessarily shit out of luck, as long as we assume monogamy. Whether 3 million a year is a big deal I guess is a matter of opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:17 PM
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Are you sure the lens isn't dirty?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:34 PM
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No man here is chasing any woman you can get an example of obviously. If you ask for examples you can only get people who like to post their face in public (hot people).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 03:34 PM
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Then that's bizarre. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:05 PM
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Are you blonde?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 11:04 PM
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Lol. First, do women not already have their own checks that they do for fidelity? They go through pockets, receipts, phones, all the things. This surrogate thing is a new one, that's for sure. But, from my experience with women, I'd imagine most would be too sentimental about the process and not want to do it. Second, it doesn't even work. The surrogate doesn't stop me from cheating. I guess you're saying you reduce the risk by staying physically attractive? Or just sexually available? I'm not 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:35 PM
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And why would she be willing to take that risk when there is a way to avoid it and, at the very least, lessen the chances you straying. Why would she take the risk anyway? Why is the surrogate a response to the paternity test? If she's afraid of the associated risks, wouldn't she be afraid of those risks independent of my request for a paternity test. If I didn't want a paternity test, would she not want to use a surrogate? I don't see the connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:08 PM
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Can they write?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:39 PM
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To be fair, most Western women probably aren't the ideal either. We all settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:38 PM
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I have no idea how the two are related, but I have no problem if she wants to use a surrogate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:36 PM
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At least one group of researchers has found this causality reversed. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886922003658#:~:text=1.2.-,Unwanted%20celibacy%20and%20misogyny,to%20be%20rejecting%20them%20%E2%80%93%20women. Romantic failure predicts misogyny. Meaning that if women don't like you, you're not going to like women, no matter what you are like in other parts of your life. Their problems would greatly be reduced if they were more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:26 PM
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You are just parroting something you saw on the internet, so yeah. Your take is a copy paste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:27 PM
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If women make questionable choices in partners, it's because the questionable options are more valuable to them than the other options. So if more women, would date a man who's a known abuser, than some nerd. Then the abuser, then the abuser is more valuable. In dating it's women's opinion that matters, not yours. Women's sense of value is what determines who gets laid and who doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:50 PM
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It's important in some context, surely. But it's not important in attracting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:12 PM
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Attractive women in their 20s are only going after older men who ARE Chads. Depending on how you define attractive, this will always be the case. Like, I said some people will always be out of reach. I don't know that a man who's been unsuccessful in his 20s should be raising his standards too high. Women do not get more desperate as they age. Most women are paired off and married on or a little after the 30 mark. And women know that, so they're desperate to find some body, women have an insatia…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:10 PM
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