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Question For WomenKosilica457/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:09 PM
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Thst kind of passivity you described here is only applicable for women, men are expected to approach and initate and giving up on dating means being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:58 PM
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It is not, average women get plenty of attention but if they decide to chase the top 5% man who is way out of their league, that's where it becomes difficult for them. Meanwhile, average and below men have it hard when chasing any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:56 PM
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If they weren't passive, they would have been reported for sexual harrasement. No woman wants an ugly guy approaching him Also, are their plain looks good enoigh for ypu?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:08 PM
3

So why do most women insist that incels' main problem is their personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 04:36 PM
4

Not looking like a mountain of fat is not a very hard standard to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:31 AM

No, they are only completely excluded from the dating scene if they are not 6ft or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:02 AM
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Don't forget he has to be atleast 6ft tall which places him in the top 15% by default
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:59 AM
3

The only difference is the fact that that women could reach a sufficient level of attractiveness, while men are only judged on their genetic traits and as such ifnyou are born not good enough, there is almost nothing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:49 PM

Honestly, if I were to isolate the bitterness I have towards women because of my looks, I'd have to admit that women are much better to work with compared to men since they tend to be socialised to be more agreeable and as such usually make more team based contributions on projects compared to men, who ime, usually tend to be firstly looking out on improving their own position and secondly looking out for the team
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:43 PM
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It is not about that. Take into cobsideration how the average man percieves this cultural rule. The average man (if he even gets dates), nowadays has to go to upwards of 20-30 dates before he gets with someone who will give them a serious chance (usually people are compatible, but also both men and women aren't really reasonable with their expectations) and going on so many dates gets really expensive really fast, especially when going on anything but an atleast semi-expebsive restaurant is trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:39 PM
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To put it into perspective, Men wanting a beautiful/hot woman to be low maintenance is the equivalent of women wanting a 6’4 sexually attractive millionaire to be faithful. Odds are slim. But most women do have this belief that they all deserve the 6'4" model looking millionare who will be faithful so average and below average men can't usually even get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:29 PM

Women are a group consisting of roughly 4 billion people. There are some I can't stomach, some I absolutely adore and most of them I don't even know. So making a universal assesment based on the 100-ish women I knwo out of 4 billion would be inaccurate at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 02:22 PM
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Or maybe, they could have picked up on some repeating patterns from other people and come to certain conclusions. If they knew what they were talking about, then they probably wouldn’t be a single virgin 🤷🏽‍♀️ Also could be that they are just percieved as too ugly for women to want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:06 PM
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I do agree somewhat, but ypur claim is under the assumption that these people with 0 relationships experience are approaching the topic in a purely objective and emotionless manner which is rarely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:04 PM
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Just because I have never done expiremnts in a lab, doesn't mean I can't know anything about chemistry. You can study the theory of a relevant topic without engaging in practice
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:02 PM
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No, they are just very picky when it comes to physical traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:45 AM
9

I absolutely agree with you, being helpful is amazing when you already are in a relationship. However, the traits I listed above are the ones women choose for and those are the men who ahve the easiest time getting into a relationship. Traits like agreeableness, helpfulness and kindness are desirable once the man has attracted the girl, up until that point, it is all about playing into some bad boy trope to look interesting to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:35 PM
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Because women themselves dont go for the man who does chores, is a good caretaker or is agreeable. Woman, mostly want a man who is popular, strong, rich and who treats everyone like shit except her so that she feels special. The man who is agreeable and stable is uninteresting and boring and most women don't want someone like that so again, women with their behaviour, not their words decided which traits in a man are desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 04:51 PM

But it is the most logical reaction. I mean, who is happy about rejection of any kind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 11:22 AM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 12:21 AM
2

The entirety of the red pill aims at making men the ultimate walking wallet. Earn money Wear expensive clothes Buy a porsche... The red pill is fundementally flawed because it equates physicall and emotional attractivness to resources. The ideal red pill man is nothing more than a magnet for gold diggers. The only way to find a truly fulfilling and equal relationship is one where the other person likes you, not your possesions and as we all know that means having some traits which are determined…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 09:20 PM
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Its not about the pussy at the end of the road, the real treasure were the Porsches we bought along the way. God, I love this entire sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 03:59 PM

5'8"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:50 PM
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How many women in the last 12 months have you asked on a date? 2 Both said they would date me if I were taller
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:57 PM
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This is such an incorrect statement... Women, want to have relationships with the same men they have casual sex with. However, those men usually know their value and don't want to or have to get a commited relationships since they can pick and choose which woman to fuck with relative ease. Women do still try to "lock down" those super attractive men and end up getting cheated on, ghosted or pumped and dumped by them. The solution then, if they still want a LTR, is to settle (in their eyes, in re…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:57 AM
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Women will still give him sex so it doesn't matter. They can call him whatever they want, but in the end they essentially sold their bodies either because of his looks or because some other gain and, in doing so, also lost any and all weight behind the claim that that man is a misyognist or incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:47 AM
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So what? Fetishized or not, she is getting attention and being given affection by other men. Who gives a fuck by what means, no man or woman is attractive based only on their personality it is usually about their bodies and faces and how they look. You can make a claim that every relationship has some degree of fetishization on both ends for attraction to be present. The means are unimportant, any man or most women ( who experienced how lonely being an unattractive man is) would choose being fet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 08:40 AM
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Most "advice" is aimed at putting men on the self-improvement treadmill with a promise of getting into a healthy and loving relationship while it mainly serves to give them sth to do and potentially to find something to give them happiness outside of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:45 PM

. Try going outside and meeting real people.. I mean, it may nit appear that way, but I am a quite sociable person and do actually have friends. While, I do agree with you that the situation is not as bad as many people on social media portray it as, it is not all that good either. It is a fact that younger men are struggling way more than older generations, which I can support both from anecdotal experiences of me and people I personally know and it is also supported by studies. 34% of young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:53 PM

You claim your experience to be a fact and yet call out other people when they do exactly the same thing. Kinda hypocritical ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:29 PM

I believe that fawning over a k-pop idol and feeling entitled to fucking a man like that are worlds apart...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:25 PM

Isn't that what women essentially want tho, Like is there an aletrnative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:23 PM

Too bad the only way to bring something to the table as a man is based on genetics and men can't bring it to the table since it can't be earned or worked on in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:21 PM

When a very large group of people have the same negative experience regarding a certain topic/issue, it stops being an anecdotal case and starts being a problem. When everyone's generalisation is more or less the same, then it is no longer a generalisation, but a recurring phenomenon. Ps: also I do understand that a majority of men are getting into relationship and are attractive to someone, that doesn't discredit the fact that there is data backing up the fact that more and more men, especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 10:15 PM
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Dating in your 20s isn't a struggle, but only for women. However, when you start to expect and look for only the 6ft, rich, handsome, lean man your age, then ofc you will struggle. Women have endless options in their 20s both in college and on social media. Men on the other hand certainly do struggle. For a man to date in his 20s he has to have most of the things that women look for (being tall, handsome, status, money) so dating is an option for a very small percentage of men, ​ So dating is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:40 PM
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too bad that bar is set in the 5% of men and 80% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:35 PM
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Anecodotally, I disagree with you, all my friends who have gotten a girlfriend had a complete glow up in terms of their mental health, confidence and self-esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:49 PM
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Yeah, the thing is that it has only gotten worse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:47 PM
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If you have nothing that a woman can find physically attractive, then yes, she will refuse you. It is more like, if you don't check all the boxes an average woman has for a man, she will reject you. I mean, there are handsome short guys who constantly get rejected because of their height. Hell, I have met a woman who said she refuses to date anyone who doesn't have blue eyes. Women reject men over the most miniscule physical imperfections all the time. No woman puts a guy in the friendzone, men …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:52 AM
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If you are unattractive to a woman, she writes you off immediately. At best, she will keep you around in the friendzone or as an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:24 AM
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One is a prerequisite for the other. If you fall in love with time, a woman has to first give a man a chance and physical attraction an lust are what determines if women give men a chance or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:14 AM
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love is blind. It is fucking not Love is blind when we overlook the man being 6ft tall, being lean and muscular and having a handsome face. I mean, if we never look at how people look and just at their personalities, then sure love is blind. It isn't a coincidence there is such a thing like conevntional attractive people, and there are repeating patterns at what we find attractive and subsequently fall in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:22 AM
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social conditioning, being called gay is still percieved as quite an insult towards heterosexual men, while being called a lesbian, as far as I know, is a neutral statement that is not percieved as offensive. Also being homosexual is assoicated with feminine traits and a man being feminine is usually frowned upon, because traditional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:16 PM
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Unless the man is hot, then all rules go out the window and the woman will bend and scrape to his every whim so that he stays, until he either cheats or decides to ghost and move on .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:43 PM
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I completely understand that there are some men put there who are fucking unhinged and cam't take no fkr an answer. However, going to a subreddit, which purpose is explicitely to show this small minority of men doesn't represent the overall trend. Face it, as much as modern feminism likes to bash men, the large majority of men DO take no as an answer, aren't rapists, do ask for consent and aren't abusive or violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:35 AM
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Congratulations, you are the excepction. Thank you for mentioning your anecdotal evidence that goes against the norm. However, just because your experience is completely different than everyone else's, doesn't mean that much, since the opposite is the norm. It is a large sample size, there will always be excepctions to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:29 AM
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Are you special? No What's your job? Student How tall are you? 5'8" - it isn't doing me any favours in terms of attractivness I also am not conventionally attractive, have never had a gf nor had anyone interested in me romantically. However, I do not have problem with hanging out with women and usually, I try to treat them similarly to my male friends even if there is no mutual attraction because they are genuienly good company and they usually reciprocate when it comes to platonic relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:59 PM
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many of which don’t take no for an answer. I am sorry you had such uncomfortable experiences, but those men are likely a small minority since men, nowadays get shame for anything they do which women dislike
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:57 PM
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Hot guys act creepy too Yeah they do, it is just that they suffer no consequences most of the time I’ve curbed many a hot man for saying something out of line and I’m not alone. That is a small minority Also the reason uglier men get called creepy faster is because obviously it an attractive man talks to you you’re less inclined to find the interaction bothersome. Exactly that is what I was trying to say, attractive men have the advantage of being able to make mistakes in a conversation and not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:49 PM
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If a woman finds a guy attractive, he basically has as much leverage as he wants. I mean why do women end up in abusive rekationships so often? It's because the guy is hot. Why do ugly guys get labeled as creeps and disgusting when following advice from hot men? Because hot men get a pass. Because flirting is inherently creepy if the woman doesn't find the man attractive. If you are unwanted company for a woman, anything you do will be interpreted in the worst way possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:33 PM
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Hypothetically. In reality when fat women try to signal romantic interest in men it's often taken as an insult. Even though, sexually I dislike fat women (can't wait to be called s misogynist for having a prefrence), I would never be rude to a fat girl if she expressed interest. I have had women who fucking posted my messages on ig and made the entire fucking school laugh at me because I had the courage to ask someone out, and I would never want that kind of shame on another human being
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:56 AM
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I assume it is hard to discern the two cases so you just label every compliment as the guy trying to fuck you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:54 AM
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You will choose one of them with. Once the delusion of thinking you deserve a 0.000001% man and the attention well dries up, you will want to settle and will go for one of the men even though he isn't the embodiment of perfection you strive for or you will decide to be alone, but rest assured that most women statiscially will choose to settle over loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:52 AM
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Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:50 AM
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What those women want is positive attention. Something that they don’t get enough of. They don't get enough of it from the top 5% of men they want to be with. A large majority of average men want to give that kind of attention to women, but firstly, to be able to give that kind of attention they need to get to know each other (which women can't do since they are showered by attention from all sides so they just pick the most attractive man, who usually pumps and dumps because he himself has more…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 11:05 AM
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Instead of crticizing the way he is writing, why don't you tackle the perfectly valid arguments he has
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:25 AM
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I disagree with your take because I have met tons of attractive women who geniuenly went out of their way to form a platonic relationship with me or my less attractive friends, but they weren't interested in a romantic relationship and didn't lack attention so as to go out of their way to make friendships and upkeep them (it wasn't an orbiter type relationship if that's what you are thinking.) Some women do act how you described but quite a lot of them do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:09 PM
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Exactly, so most men do not fit the superficial criteria and those who are left get laid regardless of how toxic they are
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:37 PM
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Most of us want real honest to goodness relationships and not just to "scratch an itch." But with men who are in the top percentile of physical attractivness Not all of us care about height or other vain BS, No one claims they care, yet men get rejected for vain bs all the time, actions speak louder than words a lot of pickiness is to filter out the toxic jerks who just want to use us for sex at best or actually abuse us at worst. Unless those toxic jerks are attractive, then women go above and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:14 PM
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There are multiple ways of answering this question. The blue pill answer: with age, women gain more wisdom and start looking for less superficial traits so they switch to searching for shared values and personality traits. The red pill answer: women become less desirable with age, while men become more desirable she will then settle for you because she already hit the wall. Or they just might be using you for your money. In reality it is probably a mix of both answers and depends on what each wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:06 PM
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Because they want to date up, while also being extremely competitive and will want outearn their partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:42 AM

. She’s not talking to probably 99% of them. And she gets inundated with messages, there’s too many for her to respond. Yeah, she picks the ones that fit her the best She has to reject countless men, and she doesn’t like to do that Believe me, at best women don't care when they reject men they find unattractive, at worst, it is a fun sport for them to see how badly they can damage another person's self-esteem. Out of the 100 women, maybe 10 are single and open to hooking up with him. It’s a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:44 PM
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Yeah, but cbum when he was bulking is classified as having a dad bod
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:08 PM
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Even tho I disagree with her, she certainly makes this subreddit more entertaining
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:45 AM
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See that is the thing, when men approach women, they sre turned down and accused of not reading the room or harrasing women. Women realistically only want to be approached by men they find very attractive, but if you want men to approach you, you will get the occasional model you actually find attractive, but there will also be a ton of guys who you aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:49 AM
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After a long enough period of time, loneliness becomes worse than any partner possibly can be
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:45 AM
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If that was the case, violence against women would get worse, not be the lowest in history. If women's rights were at the same level they were before feminism, then it would be at an all time high, but we currently have both a very strong social stigma against violence in general and a strong system of laws protecting most people from violence, especially women and children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:39 AM
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Their partners don't need to be frustrated if she is not on the mood. They can just j*rk off to porn. Because porn and actual sex are the same thing (if they were the entire incel community would have never existed) Some women say that porn creates false expectations on men, It most certainly does, especially if they came in contact with porn before losing their virginity men can watch porn while fucking their wives. That is why women are getting fatter and fatter and yet have no issues getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:29 AM
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You can always go for the "ugly fat chick at the bar" who may be cheaper/cheapest She would still reject most of the men who struggle to date and are on this sub (your intended audience with this post I assume) or in some cases, harder. No it doesn't There's rich people out there getting targeted, extorted, and scammed out of their money every day If they are stupid they get scammed, but if they have the resources, they can afford lawyers and people who will pervent them getting extorted (they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:09 AM
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I don't think they are entitled as much as they are aware they can date someone like that so there is no point in dating someone who is equal or below them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 10:59 PM
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On the flip side since most women would RATHER NOT date an average man even if these said women are average THEMSELVES. But they do end up dating or fucking above average men consistently so if the benefit outweighs the risk, why should she date someone who is in her league when she could and consistently does much better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 08:20 PM
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Can only speak from personal experience, doesn't mean I am right, but every woman I haver ever met who is relatively young (younger than 40) has said that any of the traits I listed are a necessity for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:31 PM
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Completely agree with you on this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 07:23 PM
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Bottom line still stands that being that no woman whatsoever would date a man who doesn`t have any of those traits because then he is not physically or sexually attractive and, as far as I know, there can`t be a healthy relationship without mutual physical attraction on some level so as such those men (a very large percentage) are completely excluded from dating. Also I don`t think that this is bad it is what it is and is the best system possible because alternatives would mean restricting women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:28 PM
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​ >It’s been my experience that women treat unattractive man as misc background objects in the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:24 PM
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Look at the first.comment on this thread
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:13 PM
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Overall, every woman is different and I believe in the idea of focusing on a niche rather than attempting to have mass appeal. Too bad every niche contains some combination of same facial features, 6ft+ height and/or abs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:10 PM
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If you treat every "person" as a misc. backround object then you really should reevaluate yourself because no one should be treated like an object
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:06 PM
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How are men supposed to interact with you if you deem them as invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:01 PM

Lots of women are single and not getting the kind of attention you describe. No, they get that kind of attention, but from men they deem as not good enough and as such are invisible. Getting attention from men you don't want is still getting attention. A guy with no close friends and poor social skills who doesn't care or know how to get her off doesn't add much to her life regardless of how he looks or how much money he makes. Yes to the first part, but there is a subset of women who use their …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:53 PM
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But on the other hand it makes sense. A very close friend of mine who is quite attractive told me that it feels much better when you think that you earned a relationship compared to just being born good enough. This way, it appears this attractive people had to work for their relationships and that they weren't born with what essentially is a privilege. But regardless, it is not something to be bitter about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:11 PM
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I don't. If they want sympathy, they can stop being little assholes and listen to people’s advice instead of dreaming of becoming Chad You have not gone through and will never experience those kinds of hardships so you are not qualified to judge those men, same as men not being qualified to judge SA victims since they can't really empathise with them because they, thankfully never experienced something so atrocious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:48 AM
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Nope, no woman would want to touch a sub 5 with a stick
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:53 AM
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Any guy can fire up tinder and drum up 3 or 4 fwb 2 or so points beneath him within the same amount of time. Any attractive guy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:26 AM
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Ok, so you, a conventionally attractive man, has a lot of success dating. No shit. Also a lot of attractive men like to think that their personality is the reason they have such success with relationahips. That is not true. I do not doubt that having a good personality can keep both of the people in a relationship happier, but you are overlooking one cruical step in getting into a relationship. For a woman to want to date you, she has to be physically attracted to you firstly. I do not mean the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 09:00 AM
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Not as miserable as being alone can
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:24 AM
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Yes and no. 20s are still formative years for men and women alike in a sense that you are using those years to fully define your values and standpoints on certain topics. So it is much more sensible, if possible, to use those yourself to explore your prefrences in sexuality as well. Most women who have a "hoe phase" have it in their 20s. That is percieved as a bad thing, but it is usually nothing more than having fun and, more importantly exploring your prefrences in a partner. Also another aspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:22 AM
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How tall are you and do.other people percieve you as attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:15 AM
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I absolutely agree. But that mindset leads to the fact that since some women SA-ed and you can't discern an abusive man from a normal one, so all men are potential absuers and only the ones that are attractive are treated friendly, while the less attractive ones are treated with borderline hostility under the label of potential abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:52 PM
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There are a lot of women who have had pretty positive dating experience and don't blame their exes for their dissolution. A lot of couples end amicably. Most women have not been abused and I'd argue the majority doesn't have an extensive experience of being pumped and dumped either. And yet, the dominant thought among feminist women is that all men are dangerous and will commit rape if given the oportunity or will pump and dump them at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:30 PM

Yeah, they do approach attractive men more than ever then go complain how all good men are taken while also only going for the 1%
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:45 PM
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I don't think that, but the rejection rate is astronomically smaller
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:35 PM
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Social skills are one of, if not the most important aspect to dating succes Looks are the only important thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:16 PM

No, you are just a misandrist who refuses to listen what any man says. So there is no point in debating further
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 01:12 PM

Why should more women engage in something that’s less pleasurable to them? What you’re proposing would be way more unfair to women. Not getting what you want has nothing to do with fairness. You’re just mad the world doesn’t bend to you. Please reread my prior comment cuz you clearly didn't notice the part where I explicitely said that hookup culture is fine as it is because making it fair would mean restricting one gender's rights. Also also, reread the final sentence of my prior comment where …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:47 PM
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Anyone who instantly rejects men for being below a certain height has a checkbox (personal opinion) And believe me, that is a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:39 PM

Fair means equal for both sides Hookup culture is skewed in women's favour which means men get the shorter end of the stick. That is okay since there is no real solution that doesn't involve restricting someome's rights, but it is by definition unfair. So it is okay and it shouldn't be changed, but is not fair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:31 PM
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Few is an astronomical understatement No woman I have ever met would date a guy she doesn't find sexually attractive, which means that there are boxes to be checked, usually regarding salary, height etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 12:27 PM

Because they are extremely picky and are waiting for their 6'2", billionare model to swipe on them Or they just like to string men along and reject them once they've had their fill of the attention
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:55 AM

You clearly don't understand what fair means
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:53 AM
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The pick me since she is a woman and has naturally more success than most men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:26 AM

Brian is a 6‘ feet Sorry bro, but you lost me here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:18 AM
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However the fact that some men are like this doesn't set the precedent for all men, heck it doesn't set the precedent for most men who struggle. Men are really not that delusional and when they complain abput a lack of dating sucess it doesn't come from a place of entitlement, but rather a place of frustration, sadness and loneliness. I assure you, most men here don't think women owe them sex and most of them are, deep down, aware that there is no clear solution to male loneliness, but they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:14 AM

Do you honestly think that nobody got that idea before. That self improvement is some revolutionary one size fits all solution to all men who are struggling in dating? If so, then please tell me, since I often get rejected for my height, how do I self improve to get taller. Please by all means (Gonna bet your response will be about how I am very likely a bad person)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:08 AM
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They are insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 11:00 AM
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That is the implication if the statement is that we are competing with your solitude. This is wrong. You are not competing against a woman's solitude. You are competing against a dozen other men who are all showering her with attention in the hopes of getting into a relationship. So a woman can essentially pick between having multiple options available she can call up on demand to have her sexual or emotional needs met or settle for a single person where both of you are equal in a relationship s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 10:55 AM
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It certainly is not, but regardless a woman who has a boyfriend who isn't a model and a couple of friends and feels lonely has it way better than a man who doesn't have anyone to turn to. Most women who feel lonely are socially in a much better situation than most lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 10:47 AM

Better something than nothing. Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 09:10 PM
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Women expect us short men to just fucking grow to 6ft somehow so you reall should just try to have enough discipline to lose that extra weight, you will feel better and also have a much MUCH easier time dating. Atleast, unlike most undesirable men, you have the means with which you can make yourself desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:52 PM

Same as you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:43 AM
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Yet what makes a man a dusty option but traits he has no control over (height and facial structure)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:00 PM

Everything is a deal breaker. This sums up dating for men. You have to check every checklist imaginable for thr girl to give you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:39 PM
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If anything, it was the more attractive guys that got pissy and entitled when I hadn’t slept with them by date 3 That is to be expected since they have a much easier time dating than unattractive men, but not all of them are like that. Also you have my respect for keeping your standards regardless of the looks of the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 09:31 AM
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Your prior statement that you didn't go for only conventionally attractive men, even though it might be true has no credibility since your bf is conventionally attractive and tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:17 AM
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Fair, although I assume that his gfs approve of the polyamory and likely can also be polyamrous in the relationship. It is not bad if both sides agree to the polyamory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:15 AM
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Being an advocate for something and doing it are two completely different things, also the guy is atleast decent looking, like atleast a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:13 AM
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I agree, but also, it takes only one woman to date him and replace him within those 3 months for him never to trust anyone again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:12 AM
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Anecdotal evidence of the exepction doesn't disprove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:09 AM
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Yeah because looks are the only prerequisite for a relationship and those guys check all the boxes which is all dating has become, just checking a nearly unending list of looks-based standards so a woman will give you a chance unless someone better looking comes along.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:10 PM
1

Let me guess, bf is also coincedentally 6ft or taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:07 PM
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Nobody really thinks that, but it is fact that only the Abercrombie looking models can pull of the poly-bs that was mentioned. That doesn't necessarly mean that the average Joe doesn't try, but is unlike the Chad, unsucessfull.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:06 PM
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He means that you shouldn't only go for the conventionally most attractive guys, because realistically they have the most options and are unlikely to settle down for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:03 PM
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Or, he will think you are keeping him at arm's length and using him for his affection while looking for a better looking guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 11:01 PM
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Or you have never met an attractive man before
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:58 PM
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You can elect to do none of that and still reliably get dates and a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah, but men are taught that have to be independent and competitive, so there is natural hesitation in terms of showing weakness in male dominated friend groups because men have to be strong. But women are taught to reach out for help of they need so it naturally leads to the development of better support structure in women than in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:33 PM
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Men don't have nearly as robust of a support structure as women usually do. So it really isn't uncommon for single men to truly be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 10:07 PM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 09:50 PM
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Oh, that is a good indicator, but there is also the part where percieved creepiness is quite dependent on not just attractivness but social skills as well so our hypothetical average looking man also has hypothetical average social skills I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:45 PM
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Meaning what, what does such a man look like. How do you objectively rank men on a biased scale. It doesn't add up. You can have women rate men, but most women rate almost all men low so only viable data is what is extremely attractive, there is no measurement for moderate attractivness
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:39 PM
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Haha you are funny, let me guess you are also 6ft or taller?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:35 PM
2

What does a 5/10 even mean, what are the standardised norms for an average attractive male?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:29 PM
2

A large percentage of single men sadly live in this world already
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 08:15 PM
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Imagine having a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:54 PM

Life sucks if you view it as a field of land mines always making you afraid to go enjoy yourself I wish I had the confidence not to view the world like that. In any case, thx for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:42 PM
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6ft, handsome face, a bit on the skinnier side and has glasses (that's what makes him intelligent after all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:39 PM
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Quite simple, because attraction is not objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:37 PM

You are lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:32 PM
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Even if you have female friends, it doesn't really do much for your odds, you need the looks to some extent so women will have interest in you. After all, you can't force attraction and without attraction a relationship can't really work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:20 PM

My experience on this topic differs somewhat...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:13 PM

Humans are the only animals intelligent enough to notice that they have such a problem, yet not intelligent enough to fix it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:08 PM

If women can label all men as potential rapists because it takes one guy, then so can men. Because it takes one woman doing that for the man's social life and futute prospects to be ruined forever
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:59 PM

Exactly, most women want a commited relationship. However, the problem arises when they feel they can lock down the 10/10 6'2" fit chad who has almost limitless options because every woman wants him and not the average 5'9" Joe. She will sleep with him because men have extremely low standards for hooking up but will never have a relationship with him because he won't settle since he has many options and someone better is likely to cone around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:44 AM
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Most photos I've seen of men are pretty bad The most of something usually represents an avetage of that group, if images arw representation of men and you find most of them bad. That means that an average image of a man is.unattractive and as such, the average men is unattractive. If the average man was of the attractivness.you claim he is, you wouldn't need to find better photos, an average or most common photo would suffice. So clearly, your standard for what is average is clearly skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:30 AM

This
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:36 AM
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There are no more Cyrano De Bergeracs or Don Juans left in the world. No shit, because those men would get accussed of sexual harrasment nowadays. Any man who is not physically attractive to the woman trying to flirt with her will make her uncomfortable and will get him labeled a creep and/or get him accused of sexual harrasment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 07:30 AM
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art hoes full of tattoos and piercings Art hoes are the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel don't put them in the same category as the rest of the women here.
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:24 PM
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Find a source to your liking then, Women don't need sources since they mostly operate on a principle of a hivemind
/r/AllPillDebate18/10/23 01:19 PM
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They are as shallow as men, but are not as upfront with their prefrences as men. Men usually say that they have clear physical prefrences and they, if they can, date women who check those prefrences While women often say they don't care about looks whatsoever and think only personality is important while their bf is treating them like shit is a football player and is coincedebtally 6'4".
/r/AllPillDebate29/09/23 11:37 AM
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In that case, I apologise
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:10 AM
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Well then, excuse my wrong presumptions, if you are not lying that is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:07 AM
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I'm going to bet that your bf is also coincedentally 6ft tall
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:02 AM
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"Girls don't date me because I'm short!" Yeah, it is my fault i was born with a genome for a short height fenotype, should have distributed my skill points better at character creation or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:01 AM
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A) people get used to being in a relationship and want to try something new so they cheat which leads to divorce B) women are hypergamous and are always on the lookout for men that are better looking so it might be that their tastes in attractivness change which leads to a divorce All relationships are built on a foundation of looks based physical attraction, personality only plays a role to a point where you should be a decent enough human being not to abuse your partner in any way, shape or fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:58 PM
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I mean, I wouldn't want to generalise, but I sure as hell have never seen such a situation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:49 PM
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I equate her perception of being loved with looks, so your hypotetical situation where she feels a guy who, by most parameters is uglier than me loves her more cannot happen. If I am the most physically attractive partner she has had , then she would feel like I love her the best, if not then the prevoius partner who was better looking takes that title.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:48 PM
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Hypergamy literarly means dating up, women constantly date up so it is not that you need to better in any one aspect, but pretty much all of them. You have to be hotter, taller, better looking, more social, more emotionally stable, richer, higher status and earn more
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:46 PM
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No, because i don't intend on stressing about some guy who looked better than me, but didn't want to commit to the girl. And she felt like he loved her more just because he was good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:43 PM
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Even though i somewhat disagree on you, this is a really good point This women's situation is the equivalent of a real life beta. And an even better comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:40 PM
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Men are much more vicious to women they find ugly Yeah right, atleast men will talk to the girl even if they don't find her attractive, but women just sneer at unattractive men or preemtively label them as predators and/or abusers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:33 PM
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Real
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:30 PM
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You are not considered the best she has had for treating her well, you are treated as such for being the most physically attractive, giving her the best sex. WOMEN DO NOT GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT SOME GUY'S PERSONALITY, unless they want to take advantage of guys who treat her well. If women cared for personality the badboy archetype wouldn't be nearly as popular as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:29 PM
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You can call ti whatever you want, but at the end of the dsy it is still a postive reaction to a.man's physical attractivness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:23 PM
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Yeah, men control women's standards in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:22 PM
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But you will never see an ugly guy with amazing personality succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:10 AM

If he is so succesful and you demand compensation you can always demand alimony when breaking up. Stop fucking crying, women have every tool they could want to fuck up men in today's dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:44 PM

All women are born with inherent value and are generally valued without exeption, while most men have no inherent value and they have to go through extreme lengths and struggles to achieve it or get dehumanized and treated like subhuman trash. And sometimes, even if they do everything right, they still won't be enough because of some stupid unchangable aspect of their appaerance like height or baldness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:35 PM
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Considering my height, I would say a solid 3/10 aka, women sneer at me when I look in their general direction
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:24 PM
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So firstly let's acknowledge that women are still widely regarded as the passive gender which means men are supposed to approach you. Keeping that in mind, we are looking to date to marry, that likely means we will need to weed out alot of shit men. If I were a woman, I would want to create social situations where guys wouldn't feel intimidated to approach me. So I would either go out clubbing or go out with friends to bars. Obviusly I would do both with friends because it would be dangerous to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 11:08 PM
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Thw problem arises when they also start publicly acting like they are a 10
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:58 PM
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I don't get it, shluld your partner treat you like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:43 AM
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It really is not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 10:59 PM
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Yeah, of course there is variance in such a large sample size, but do you honestly think that unattractive douchebags are responsible for single mothers? I mean not to be rude, but most of the time unattractive guys don't even get to look in the general direction of a woman without being labeled as a creep
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:36 PM
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Poligamy in men and hypergamy in women, also social medai
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 07:46 PM
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I agree with you. Those men are only looking for hookups most of the time so they act desirable to persuade women to sleep with them and once they get what they want, they show their true colours. Honestly women should somewhat gatekeep sex for all men regardless of attractivness to prevent guys like that taking advantage of them, but on the other hand it is likely hard saying no to a guy who looks and acts hot
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:30 PM
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Personality really isn't a factor most of the time. A woman won't let an unattractive guy speak a word with her so his personality can't really shine through, there will always be a minimun physical attractivness treshold which needs to be achieved before a personaloty can play a role in general attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:21 PM
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. If a man has all of these traits he will have options as well. It’s not rocket science. And that's why he can and will cheat and/or pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:18 PM
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Tgw answer is one word: hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:17 PM
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Believe me OP, nobody gives a fuck ablut your hair or nails if you are not already tall and dont have a good looking facial structure. There are short guys with great sense of style who really are not bad looking, but still get rejected for unkept giraffes who are 6'+
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:19 AM
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In my experience, ive had male friends that i considered great platonic friends, only to find out some years/ months down the line they just wanted to sleep with me. But have you thought that maybe other people's perception of you can change. As a guy it happend to me plenty of times to start hanging out with a girl and building a relationship on a platonic level only ti realise that with time I developed an attraction and feelings towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:48 PM
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You can put as much effort as you want, but still get rejected because of much more important factors like height or facial structure
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:40 PM
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Looking good is the work. Work being done by their genes, but work nevertheless
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:30 PM
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As a 6'1" guy you really shouldn't have any problems dating, so don't give false hope to guys who actually don't stand a chance. A guy can have style, money and status, but if he is below 6' or even worse, below 5'7", most of the women will still reject him and those who won't will likely just use him for the lifestyle he can provide while most likely cheating behind his back because there is no physical attraction in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:39 AM
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Your source doesn't say that that men, as in a gender based category, start wars, but rather that traits and values corresponding with traditional masculinity are pro war. So a better conclusion would be that people (who in our case happen to be mostly male) who are raised in accordance with traditional masculinity and have those values instilled in them are more likely to act aggresively in turn starting wars. Furthermore, take into consideration what is required for someone to even start a war…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:29 AM
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Is this some kind of ragebait or are you just actually that misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:56 AM
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Actually i would prefer dating a feminist. I think that real, non-extremist or misandry based feminism is good for both men and women becise it breaks down preestablished gender dynamics and roles and utilises the good aspects of them to create a better and healthier environment for both sexes, so assuming that that potential gf isn't a misandrist, she would be a very good potential partner, atleast for me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:49 PM
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This is just proof that none of that "Personality natters nore than looks" bs has any connection with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:47 PM
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Way to big of a generalisation there, you should really take into account the fsctor of how men percieve themselves, there are plenty of average looking narcissists who think that they're extremely good looking or deserve women who are leagues better than them, which in turn leads to pumping snd dumping and frustration on the men's part
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:04 AM

Hahaha it do be like that Although, I believe that most men here wouldn't talk like that irl, internet spaces tend to bribg out the worst in people and it doesn't help that a vocal minority usually turns every blackpill or redpill space into an echo-chamber
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:55 AM

Only works if you are tall If you're short, you will just be mocked for your Napoleon complex if you do any of these
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:51 AM

They are both, they are pathetic, gaming-addicted, sad people who get faced with constant rejection and societal ostricization which, in turn leads them further down the spiral accumulating more and more resentment and frustration which boils over to anger. That anger needs to be released in some way abd since they feel society turned their back on them, they express it in form of aggressive behaviour. Also, you realise a very vocal minority of incels are actually aggressive and most of them don…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:48 AM

Honestly, there is some good in abusive relationships from time to time, while loneliness is just painful all the time, so, in my opinion, I would rather be in an abusive relationship than be single
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:44 AM
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Looks are not the most important thing for a woman, They are the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 06:18 AM

"Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change..." Vaas Far cry 3 Why try to do something that doesn't work and get hurt every time you fail which you 100% will all of the time because you don't measure up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:52 PM
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I think you aren't really aware at how bad short guys have it. You say that you face the same problems but probably not to the degree that short guys do. I think it's men who are more concerned about height than women, some sort of inferiority complex. Short men are the most obssesed with height because it hinders them in dating. Women are also obsessed, every woman I that ever rejected me did so because i was too short I've only ever experienced two women who were obsessed with me solely becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:49 PM
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A 5'10" guy maybe, but a 5'6" who is handsome in every other regard will have more difficulties pulling women than a 6'2" who looks hideous
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:06 AM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 01:21 PM
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Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:38 AM
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Yes
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:43 AM
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I would rather be disfigured and tall than be short
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 08:04 AM
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Yeah ik, I know a girl who is 5'1" and she refuses to be with anyone shorter than 6'2". Someone gifted her a ladder for christmas last year so she can kiss the guy when she finds him...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:30 AM
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What is your height and what is the minimum height you find attractive for your partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:22 AM
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That is the reason i asked this question. From my anecdotal expirience, amost all of my aquaintances who are shorter than 180cm (cca 5'10"- 5'11") are single and about 75% of those taller than that are in a relationship while also 90% of the them who are taller than 6 foot are in relationships. If you only take my expirience as evidence, it looks like height is the ultimate deciding factor in terms of male attractivness. On the other hand, if comments in this thread have any merit and aren't jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:21 AM
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I can relate to your predicament. Wishing you all the luck in finding someone someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:10 AM
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I would say anything below 5'11"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:54 PM
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5'11" is the bare minimum, but 6' is reccomended
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 09:13 PM
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Be honest about your height before meeting , even if you are sub 6 foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:34 PM
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Actually you are right. And now that you mention it, there are a lot of men who give women shit for having a high bodycount as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:50 PM
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6'2" and says he has low success Yeah right
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:34 PM
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Makeup for your face Gym and proper deiting for your figure and curves And besides the point you are mostly judged on is your weight and only if you are severely obese Most men really dont ask for much looks wise And also there are things men can change about themselves but we are mostly valued for unchangable traits
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:15 PM
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Or you know, a woman is usually judged on aspects she can change (makeup for facial features and weight loss for obese women) While a man cant really do much about things like height, d size or facial structure or hairline, while being mainly judged in those aspects hy women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:10 PM
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And then feel entiteled to princess treatment because they had to settle for someone below their standard
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:33 PM
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It's really not. It is just that women usually argue online that "personality is very important" or "looks aren't that big of a factor" when in reality they wont even consider the sub 6 feet guy. Most men will say physical attraction plays a big role in terms of partner selection while women try to deflect and emphasize other aspects like personality to avoid being labeled as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:22 PM
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Kinda hard to change things like height or bone structure while women only need to put up some makeup...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:59 PM
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And thats why married women cheat more often than married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 12:18 PM
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People, when they get to know me, usually like to have me around it's just that there is never any physical attraction towards me, so the only kind of relationships I can form are platonic in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 06:34 AM
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Jesus christ this entire post is a cesspool of pure misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:33 PM
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Since im below 6 foot I would rate myself a solid 2, im not particularly ugly, but short enough to be virtually invisible to any and all women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:20 PM
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All the women here talking about who is the most physically attractive while that all so important personality factor is nowhere to be seen...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:46 PM
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Actually quite an upbeat post, kudos to the OP You made my day just thst little bit less terrible so thanl you for that.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 10:55 PM
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Sorry if this question comes as offensive, but what exactly are you getting revenge for?
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 10:49 PM
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Desperation doesn’t excuse the willingness to take sex from someone who would rather do anything else than lie under a man she isn’t excited by. I agree that such behavior is dehumanizing for women. As such, I'm not excusing them, just providing context and motivation for their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:37 AM
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Firstly, I apologize for poorly wording the first comment. Because of which, it's point was unclear. Secondly, allow me to rephrase my prior comment. I'm never stated that I or men in general would feel okay having sex with a person they deem unattractive. Nor do I judge women for finding unchangeable traits attractive. Everyone should be entitled to have their standards and other people should respect those standards regardless of their beliefs. I only wanted to state that the male frustration …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:25 AM
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Also note how obese women can lose weight while short men can't do anything to become taller. Most men are shallow in terms of characteristics a women can change while women are shallow about unchangeable things like height or facial structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:47 AM
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