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Kreeps_United/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 09:03 PM
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generalKreeps_United/r/MenSupportMen18/08/21 02:17 AM
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I think we both know you're not. If we were talking about a woman who felt uncomfortable in an environment, you would agree instead of creating a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:52 AM
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So, you didn't just say something without thinking it through; you're just outright being intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:43 PM
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I would bet all the money in my pockets that you actually insist people take their feelings into account in certain situations and understand that doesn't make them selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:48 PM
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Yes, people should not put themselves in situations where they feel negative feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:46 PM
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Why would the onus be on the person who doesn't want to change the status of the relationship to end things? We just had a post here (I think it was removed) about how the situation hurts the person who just wants to be friends, and that sentiment is repeated everywhere the subject comes up. I read this post as an explanation of why the person with the feels would want to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:44 PM
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But don't act like the other person has done something wrong. Most men who have been in that situation (which is probably most men) don't. They're disappointed but are more likely to be down on themselves. I don't get where people get the notion that most men speaking about this hate the woman or that they were trying to trick the woman. It starts to sound like people don't want to deal with men's feelings at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:41 PM
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A lot of those examples are super scummy. I don't know why you would use this to make your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:37 PM
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I guess that's the vibe here, but I've seen much more nuance takes elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:28 AM
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It’s always funny seeing people claim theyre fighting against purity culture and yet they have to pretend sex is supposed to be about some pure love bullshit. If being horny isn’t something to be ashamed of, then just be honest. There was literally a thread here where women accused a guy of coercion when he did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:17 PM
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Here's an analogy: Suppose that someone was constantly complaining about Bankers from Race X; or Welfare Moochers from Race Y; or Terrorists from Race Z. If I were a member of X, Y, or Z, I would likely push back even if I weren't a banker; a welfare recipient; or a terrorist. Why? Because it seems the criticism is motivated by animus against groups X, Y, and/or Z. So you're saying that you think people push back against age-gap relationships because "men bad"? I don't know how you can get that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 03:15 PM
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tell her you want to fuck her from the go; “men only see us as objects to stick their D’s in” Worse, they say it's coercion now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:32 PM
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Are you actually in an age-gap relationship? I keep getting the feeling that a lot of you defend things just because "the other side" opposes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:11 PM
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The one percenters among men don't because they aren't the ones hurt by the problems men face. If anything, they're rewarded for speaking against them or pretending they don't exist. Normal men know that they'll be attacked for it and be accused of being far right or even a rapist. They don't have the power or resources to protect themselves from that, so they just keep their head down. At best, they'll work with kids at a small, local level. The only people consistently taking up the causes are…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 03:11 PM
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If men criticize older men for dating younger women, the response is often that the woman "knows what she wants," that "women naturally prefer older men," or that "young men have nothing to offer." There's one group I hear this from, and it's usually women who see men as a means to an end. Even those women are seen as dangerous, luring younger women into situations where they might be hurt or end up giving up more of themselves than they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 12:18 AM
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So we gave up on pretending not to generalize, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 02:55 PM
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It's not that they have it backwards; they're just hoping no one notices.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:19 AM
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I prefer people who don't post threads that are damn near identical to threads that were just posted a few days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:18 AM
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Can't find it for the life of me, but I watched a video from a black feminist going over this same topic. If someone knows the video I'm talking about from that weak description, please post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 04:39 AM
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Yeah, that sounds about right. We can't talk about male victims in a topic about male victims, and we can't talk about male victims in a topic about female victims. Good observation My bad, I made a typo. It's edited now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:20 AM
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Go into a topic about women being raped and mention that men are the majority of victims, That's not something you should do for at least two reasons. A topic about women being raped isn't the time to bring up male victims, period (unless someone says something like, "men can't be raped"), and outside of prison, men aren't the majority of rape victims. I'm sorry, but you're in the wrong here if you think that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:49 AM
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Again, women here have made posts criticizing men for their preferences. Look, anytime someone replies to my posts with an attempt to make it personal, I'll just assume everyone knows I'm right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:46 PM
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Women here do it all the time. A female preference is treated as their right, but a male preference is treated as shallow or even immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:16 PM
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I was speaking about society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:12 PM
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I feel like as a woman this shouldn’t offend you because I’m sure there’s equally just as many times you’ve been discriminatory towards women due your preferences. From weight, height, body type, personality, and so on Women (and men speaking on behalf of women) criticize men for their preferences all the time. I agree with you in a vacuum, but we have to be honest about the mixed messages we give men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:27 PM
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So then you agree with the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:05 PM
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Men choose to enter dangerous or physically labour intensive jobs. Men choose to be miserable and lonely. Men choose to dampen their emotions so they can’t feel their grief and can only express anger and aggression. Men choose to be violent towards women. Men choose to rape women. Men choose to end up ostracised by society or in prison. I think the reason the OP posted what they posted is that we regularly see people say all of the above unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:07 PM
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... but there has been?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:42 AM
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the local women like or see men that look like you as exotic. Oh, sweetie. They like to see men who might be able to give them a better life, something a lot of passport bros complain about when it comes to women from their own countries. Passport bros know that. It's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:44 AM
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Can you give some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:52 PM
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Okay, you're being disingenuous, but I'll take the time to point out how and why. I hope you're never in a position of authority over vulnerable people. Because no one in this situation is a vulnerable person or a person with authority? You're being gross. The fact that you brought up "being on a boat in the middle of the ocean" is creepy as fuck. Yeah, that situation was supposed to be creepy to offer a contrast between an actual ultimatum and a person just setting a condition. That's how words…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:27 PM
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Fuck me or we go no further….. is an ultimatum. Only in the way anyone setting a condition to dating is giving an ultimatum. Would you ever say a woman is wrong for setting a condition for a second date, or would you say that no one is owed a second date? You may not like it, but if you find it disgusting and block him, then it did what it was supposed to. And really, it came after she first told him she didn't know if she wanted to have sex but invited him to come over. Sending a message saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:59 PM
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It wasn't an ultimatum because he had nothing over her. She invited him over after saying she wasn't sure if she wanted to be sexual with him. He said he wasn't interested in coming over if there wasn't sex. That can only be a threat if you don't believe guys should have conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:27 PM
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If people just said the guy was corny or lame, I'd just shrug. People using words like "threaten," "ultimatum," or "coercion" are being gross. Those words mean something and, "I'm not interested in coming over to your house if we're not hooking up," isn't one of them. I've listened to many women speak about this, and a few of them said women are mad because they don't set their own terms and stand by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:15 PM
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This is weaponized consent. People really just be saying anything. He didn't have her on a boat in the middle of the ocean; he said what he wanted for the relationship to continue and she was free (and safe) to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:05 PM
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Didn't she actually say she wasn't sure and invited him over?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:03 PM
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No, poppet. What he did was threaten. With what? Harm? Disclosing personal information? What did he threaten her with, and how was she entitled not to have it happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 05:01 PM
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That one particular man was not interested if sex wasn't included, and that's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 04:25 PM
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In shocking contrast, many men (on the internet) just watch porn and go to the gym. Mew, if they're ambitious. They are not interested in how the political climate has impacted casual sex. They have never read a magazine with fun sexual tricks, they don't engage intellectually with sex or eroticism, and there is little aesthetic consideration beyond muscles and facial bones. This isn't true. I'm not sure where you got it from, but I'm guessing this is the eternal problem of women not knowing thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:40 AM
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Isn't all non-RP dating advice, by definition, bluepill advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:46 PM
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I've had situations where bringing something up is either ignored, waved away, or makes me the bad guy somehow. After a while, not only do you stop trying, but you get really angry hearing complaints. I don't know if anyone can find it, but there was a viral video of men on a panel saying the same thing, only for the women there to quickly dismiss their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:37 PM
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You really think the way men act here is the way they act in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:22 PM
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Personally, I only saw that Nikki liked him as a friend, so the scene where she asks if he likes her is an attempt to address the issue directly. Nikki isn't spineless. Every character is flawed, but Nikki has an on-and-off relationship with Ian, while Bear can't even confess. Bear's brand of indecision and inability to confront makes him a monster and Nikki his victim. Nikki is willing to face death to free herself, while Bear even tries chicken out of that. All of that said, I agree that we of…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:12 PM
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I think the issue is that we often blame men for their standards. If we keep the same energy for everyone, we would have fewer gripes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:22 PM
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This is actually a really good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:31 PM
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The horseshoe is just a circle at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:39 AM
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The only thing they open up about is women not fucking them. You really opened this app just to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:27 AM
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I agree. I think a lot of the manosphere is just selfish people exploiting the problems of disadvantaged men to excuse their selfishness. I really wish we had an alternative movement where we really tackled the problems men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:29 PM
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I think the thing you have an issue with is consent. There are things I'll do or put up with for money, but I shouldn't be expected to do for free for anyone who wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:28 PM
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No, I don't like arguing for the sake of arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:21 PM
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Patriarchy is a system enabled by different attitudes, not a set of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:17 PM
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That isn't what it means in the context of this conversation and it would still be possible to verbally put down an individual man in a man ruling world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:55 AM
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So women put down men and you blame the patriarchy. You can point out structural issues and hold individuals accountable. You're infantilizing women down to being duped by some shadowy male conspiracy to put them down. That's not a version of patriarchy I believe in.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:46 AM
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This was genuinely a good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:33 AM
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But you realize Jenny is the bum, right? Your OP read like you were confused about how people feel about Jenny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:50 AM
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Feminist isn't synonymous with woman. Why are people pretending they don't know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:50 AM
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But many manosphere men are nasty about women. And the manosphere is trash. Everyone outside of it knows it's trash, including a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:47 AM
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The worst feminists I've ever listened to were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:46 AM
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Because I'm a decently far leftist and while I find plenty of people with similar politics pretty annoying, it's never once swayed me off what I believe. OP didn't say he was swayed off his beliefs, just that it would undermind the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:45 AM
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A whole hour? You lost your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:58 AM
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No, because I'm not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:50 AM
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Are you going to post this every 3 months? np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1ruiymw/men_are_just_as_picky_as_women_they_just_pretend/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:09 PM
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I'm not really in the mood to address bootlicking and prejudice because the mods will accuse me of race-baiting or something. While I'll say people who have been born here have been profiled, Karens threaten Hispanics with ICE any time they get into an argument with them, and we now have concentration camps in the US. If you fuck with that, I don't fuck with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:57 AM
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Either the patriarchy was built by men or by women, and why would women ever build a system that oppresses them? I think feminists make a huge mistake talking about patriarchy as something people built or doing the "who created that system?" thing. Patriarchy developed as society developed, as we started passing down assets. There wasn't a plan or a secret meeting. Right, but whose fault is it that those women are patriarchal? It's their fault. Again, I think a lot of internet feminists say a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:27 AM
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We have a misogynist toddler as president of one of the most powerful countries in the world. I don't see that as a victory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:53 AM
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I think you've listened to too many internet feminists to boil down patriarchy to "men". Ice is prejudiced against Hispanics. The fact that a lot of ice agents are Hispanic doesn't change that. Some of the most patriarchal people you'll ever meet are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 11:03 PM
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LITERALLY THE SAME MEN then argue that society should care about male loneliness because lonely men may become unstable, angry, violent, radicalized, etc. I'll admit I agree with the radicalized part because there are agents out there trying to radicalize young men. Just like religion and cults, they're going after the men who don't belong or feel frustrated with life. My problem is that once someone says, "let's do something to help them," everyone acts like they don't know why or that you're s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:51 PM
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That's what I think, but there used to be so many male feminists proposing stuff like that and then treating people like misogynists when they called it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:13 PM
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I can't see the video, but having read some articles that turned me off the topic years ago, I'm guessing it goes beyond just being trustworthy and into trying to convince strange women you're not a threat. I remember men of color saying that they smile at strange women or go out of their way to make themselves seem harmless due to racial stereotypes. Miss me with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:13 AM
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I know I'll sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I suspect a lot of the people posting here are just agitators trying to get men to shift to the Right wing. The idea that we should start giving men girlfriends or make things "equal" in dating would be met with laughter from men in the real world. I can feel bad that there are a lot of unhappy men, but coercing women into settling isn't the answer and would be evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:58 PM
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Its your first date with a gal and she asks you , " what women do you admire". Would the question be offputting to you, would you be able to answer it? I'd probably be put off if she made it sound like a litmus test. I admire a lot of women, but they're not all known by the general public so I'd feel awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:06 PM
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The moment they veer in the territory I detailed (which is rather common despite your incessant denial of that) Maybe on redpill sites, but that's a minority of men. Most men who speak about mental health aren't redpillers or incels. It's like bringing up the scum manifesto during a talk about rape victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:32 PM
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That isn’t why, it is just because women have a different standard of tidiness than men. I think it's a combination of that and some men leaning too much on that. It's like when some women are used to men being into cars, so they assume men would always be willing to fix one. Some men might see chores as something women care about more, so it becomes "her thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:26 PM
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Pussyfooting about people’s real life experiences and observations isn’t one of them. I agree, so maybe stop trying to deny men's real-life experiences and outright dismissing their mental health concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:50 PM
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This is what you call precision: The issue is a lot of what men want or what would “improve their mental health” comes down to “feeling like a man” which somehow always involves someone else (male or female) being dominated, Because it's not. Your “advocacy” is for you. Not me. Well it is based on my view of right and wrong and not approval from a group, so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:50 PM
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We’d all appreciate if people like you got more upset with the asymmetries than the observation of said asymmetires. Nah, that's not me. I speak out against all wrongs whether it's against women or men. Even in this sub I've pointed out how men here should stop conflating serious issues with non-serious ones, spoken out against age gap relationships, spoken out against passport bros, spoken up for the right to choose. Maybe you just need to take a look at your advocacy and ask if you're being ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:13 PM
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With this in mind; there are no misandrists feminist. There are people that are misandrist and call themselves feminist, but I can call my self the tooth fairy and that doesn't mean I am. Honestly, do you actually ever say something like this to feminists who are misandrists?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:05 AM
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The issue is a lot of what men want or what would “improve their mental health” comes down to “feeling like a man” which somehow always involves someone else (male or female) being dominated, subjugated, possessed, or in a deferential role so the man feels like he’s lording over something (or sexually validated/satisfied). Probably not, but saying so does make it easier to dismiss them. Here's a bright idea: less of what you just did. And when other leftists like myself see you doing it, we shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:08 AM
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Both sides should just be honest. That's probably useless advice because there are clearly people on both sides who want the gender war so they can sell shit. If that isn't you, then just strive to be honest. The more you dig in for a lie or dishonesty, the worse you make your side look. Don't repeat stuff you heard in a video or online; think about how the person in front of you would react to what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:04 AM
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My husband said that most men who approach women are looking for sex. That's how your husband sees himself. When I was younger, I would go out of my way to help people all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:05 AM
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Misandry doesn't need isolated communities when you can find it within the mainstream. The Roda Osman supporters I talked about are mainstream feminists, some of whom I supported and followed. They're far more mainstream than someone like Sneako or Fresh&fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:41 AM
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Protection from abusive mothers, but not fathers? Well how do you stop angry men who hate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 04:19 AM
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When did I say anything about women cleaning up any mess? The closest would be when I mentioned protecting boys from abusive mothers. That's not something you disagree with, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:04 AM
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Are you responding to the right post?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:01 AM
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Well how do you stop angry men who hate women? Help them? Protect boys from abusive mothers, make mental health resources free, and stop with the ironic misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:14 AM
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Weak men need to have a comparable support system like LGBT, lower strata groups enjoy like exclusive employment, dating opportunities. We need to stop asking for the government to help men get dates. I wanted to like your posts because we (meaning right and left-leaning people) punish men for being atypical in many ways. That a serious issue and bringing dating into it just makes it so easy to dismiss everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:12 AM
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Don't we want them to NOT be on those sites?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:08 AM
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This is the oppression Olympics people claim not to want but always resort to. By contrast, while anti-male prejudice and misandrist rhetoric certainly exist, there is no equivalent pattern of organized extremist networks or documented waves of violence motivated by hatred of men. Overall, there is no misandrist equivalent to the pattern of violence associated with misogynistic extremism, nor is there evidence of a broader movement producing attacks at a similar scale. Wasn't "misandry don't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:04 AM
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Can you guys stop lying about this? Men create programs and organizations to address issues, and people speaking on behalf of women (many of whom are also men) complain about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:26 AM
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There may be a lot of people who believe what they say online, but most are at least smart enough to know it won't fly outside their bubble. It only has consequences depending on what spaces you frequent. If you're in any way political, then you might hear people say that Democrats want to stop women from having babies or that 62 MIL and 1k are the same. Everyday people think most of that is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:10 PM
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I don't think any sane person cares if feminism is popular. The issue is the quality of the feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:54 AM
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The people radicalizing men are the enemy. With them in charge, the only change we'll see is everything going backwards and men being more miserable. What we need is a third side that just wants equality without any of the bullshit. What feminists are trying to stop men from understanding is that if you just hold on to belief and just refuse to let it go, and you do it in large number, the world will accommodate you. The Andrew Tates of the world do not reflect my beliefs, and I'm someone sympat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:08 AM
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I'm trying to stop myself from commenting on the "where it arguably matters most" line to ask, what does equality in dating even look like? In employment, you're not (or at least weren't) allowed to discriminate against a black woman for a job in a way that made it obvious you were doing so. That said, you were still allowed to have qualifications, and not every black woman was entitled to a job. How will we ensure equality in dating without just forcing women to date people they don't want to? …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:40 AM
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That doesn't answer the question. The BLM protests were against the behavior of the police, so they protested against the police. Who do you want people to protest in this instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:39 PM
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Who would they protest?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:16 AM
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just make it BLMT and you eliminate a significant portion of the controversy No you don't. No one was confused about what BLM meant, they were just racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 09:13 AM
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arguments in favour of giving men right to financial/paper abortion (so he's not legally/financially responsible for a child he does not want) - other side argues the mother will struggle financially or that our taxes will go to that Your taxes will go to that. People who support paper abortions should be the loudest voices for social safety nets, basic income, free child-care, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:30 PM
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It's evident in how angry men get when a man who is "undeserving" of sex gets it. When a pretty girl sleeps with some unemployed drug addicted lowlife. If I get angry at a woman for sleeping with a dangerous loser, it's because I'll hear all the complaining after the results of sleeping with a dangerous loser, while she blames men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:34 PM
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I've repeatedly seen people on this sub say women who fall in love with bad men are bad people, so I'm not sure they care about this uno-reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 05:29 AM
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You are saying that if men don't get pussy, they go crazy. How is that not pushing a rape culture where women are obliged to bang men so men don't go crazy? I see the disconnect. While there are some people shaming men for not being able to have sex (which is bad) I think most are claiming men are bitter over not being able to have sex. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:22 PM
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Yes. you're contributing to the double standard and this comment is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:31 AM
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And people are allowed to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:30 AM
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This is the third time they have made a skit like this. Who at SNL likes raping teenage boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:45 AM
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why do you want feminism to address "mens issues" I didn't say I did. I'm asking if you have never heard feminists tell men that they should join feminism if they want to tackle men's issues. If you had, then there is no surprise in the expectations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:44 PM
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You've never heard feminists tell men they should be feminists if they want to address men's issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:48 PM
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Do they? In my experience a lot of feminists just want you to not be a misogynist and passively support the struggle. Honestly asking, you've never heard feminists request more than not being misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:47 PM
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So a White, straight person who grew up financially stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:56 PM
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I have bipolar which is far more common in women and I probably wouldn't even have it if I was male. I have to take effexor which makes me feel hot and sweat and my heart go fast. So, by "man," you mean a man without any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:27 PM
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I don't know why anyone says grass is greener on the other side. I would most certainly choose to be a man if I had to live life over again. Did you just... never mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:24 PM
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Is this really controversial? Of course most women don't peg. It's hard to get into.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 10:40 PM
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This is rich. We are literally on a subreddit for debating TRP. TRP was literally created to dehumanize women, calls us inherently manipulative or evil, and teaches men how to manipulate us. And it's rightly seen as evil if not outright loser shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:33 PM
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Lots of things I could say on this topic, but just remember that there are groups actively promoting social conflict using botted accounts, botted comments, and botted upvotes. It happens more frequently than you think, probably on this sub too. I wish it were just bots, but I've had to unfollow people I used to support due to their assholian takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 11:17 PM
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Why do some men claim they don't hate women but do nothing to stop men killing and raping women? You're trying to be ironic here, but this is literally how people talk about men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 10:25 PM
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If I'm in a relationship with you, you're my Stacy. I'll treat you well because of my feelings for you. Part of that is physical attraction, part of that is your personality, part of that is how you treat me. There are times I might find a woman physically attractive, but her personality would make those feelings dissipate. It's kind of weird that most people don't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:41 PM
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would you find it reasonable for a below average or average woman to reject any guy that doesn’t treat her exactly like he would a top 1% Stacy? Yes, what the fuck? I can't imagine a world where women would advise a woman to stay with a man who treats her differently than women he finds more attractive. Or rejecting a guy who has payed for first dates with other women but got used too many times so he stopped. I don't think we should blame people for changing, but there was a reddit story about …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 02:16 PM
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But they don't create their posts about same issues. Why not? They do. This repeated idea that they don't is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:29 PM
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I think we mess up when we see masculinity as anything but traits common to males.That's something we can use. If boys are having a problem learning, we can look at the environments and methods that help boys the best and bring that into more classrooms. Toxic masculinity wasn't suppose to be men behaving toxic. It was about what society does to men. Sadly, it was co-opted and ruined. The opposite of toxic masculinity was "Deep Masculinity".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 04:27 PM
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Sadly, there's truth in what you're saying. There are people who really don't want men's issues taking up time or space but they don't want them going to toxic places either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:15 AM
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Precisely correct women are choosing to be with men who fundamentally and often harm them. If you're going to be harmed, regardless of your gender, it will most likely be someone close to you. Predators and abusers know how to find and trap their prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:29 AM
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Gender essentialism is the belief that men and women possess distinct, innate, and immutable qualities rooted in biology or nature, which determine their behaviors, roles, and social functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:43 AM
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You’re a gender essentialist. That’s at odds with gender equality, He's far from the first feminist to share gender essentialist beliefs, he said the quiet parts out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:21 AM
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Who is "they"? Most normal men think redpillers are cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:53 PM
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I remember when the friendzone was just being seen as a platonic friend when you wanted to be seen romantically. Yes, that's real. If you have romantic feelings for someone then you don't want to be seen as a sibling. It exists, but isn't the fault of the person you have feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:07 AM
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So why do men continue to care about fairness when dealing with women any more than we care about fairness towards our enemies? Anymore than the poor care about fairness towards the rich, or the oppressed about fairness towards his oppressor? As an oppressed person, fairness is my whole reason for seeking justice and reform. It's not about "my side vs theirs" but looking at situations through the veil of ignorance. If you tell me that there is a lot of apathy toward what men go through, I agree …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:49 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:05 AM
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The first time I heard about MGTOW, I thought it was about learning to build cabins and living off the grid. In reality, it seems like a bunch of guys wanting attention. But If attractive men or desirable or men with hugh status went MGTOW though Even if they were physically attractive, MGTOW is seen as corny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:40 PM
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I'm saying that they already say, "not all women". They even say it when you're talking about a specific woman or group of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 11:17 PM
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No one is saying you can’t talk about patterns in women’s behaviour. Yes they are, to the point where criticizing an individual gets the response, "so you're saying women..."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:45 AM
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Thats reads like a classical "just world" Fallacy. Worse. It reads like they'd rather victim blame women who fall into bad relationships then admit some guys they don't like have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 10:26 PM
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Then what's the complaint? You made a post saying men don't care about men's issues. I pointed out that they do, but face pushback. You asked why men don't speak out against the pushback. I pointed out that they do, and part of that pushback manifests in people stepping away from feminism. Now you're asking me what my complaint is? You okay? I gave the situation serious consideration by looking at the impact of more violent methods. And I'm saying that bringing that up when there's a discussion …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:56 AM
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And where are the men to pushback against the man haters? Literally everywhere. When men and women say, "I'm not a feminist, but..." they're saying they don't like that behavior. Men have more violent ways to attempt it, but women attempt it more, which leads to guys here claiming women only do it for attention when people explain that fact. You're upset men are dismissing your dismissal? People do address male loneliness. Look on TikTok and you'll see people addressing that the male loneliness …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:29 AM
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This is disingenuous. Not only are there numerous programs, movements, and campaigns created by men for the sake of other men, but they often face pushback if they're framed as seeking to help men for men's sake. That’s why you see “what about men?” in those moments, And we see the exact same thing when we bring up men's issues. Bring up male suicide, "women attempt more". Male loneliness, "I know we flexed how we have better support and deeper friendships, but now we'll say we're just as lonely…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:56 AM
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You weren't attacked or coerced She was literally coerced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:26 AM
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Yes, this is sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:26 AM
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while men do the same thing by pandering, bashing other men, or playing the “I’m different” angle to appeal to women. Same Honestly, it's more like, "we all suck but I recognize I suck and that somehow makes me better".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:20 AM
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Online, all the time. IRL, not that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:55 AM
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A common theme I've observed in the feminist movement of today is them being supposedly confused or surprised by the fact that most men aren't on board with their ideas. Most men are onboard with a lot of their ideas, just not with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:29 AM
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Yes, some people who call themselves feminists do engage in that kind of behavior. But that is not what the ideology is fundamentally about. Then why is no one discussing that with them instead of non-feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:27 AM
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I haven't read his work in a while, anything in particular you disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:22 AM
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The person who started the Mythopoetic Men's Movement was a leftist. Ally Fogg, who speaks on men's issues frequently, is a leftist. I'm a leftist and I got banned from Menslib for calling out their bullshit. Lot's of progressives are pro-men. Historically, a lot of progressive work is protecting male workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:28 PM
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The lack of experience and resources make it a bad idea for the young women involved and any decent person should care more about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:36 AM
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I think there's a lot of jobs minors shouldn't do but still count as jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:30 AM
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and drop the "I'm an alpha" act. Many will pushback against it You know most men aren't redpillers, right? Not saying they're perfect, but most don't go around thinking about being alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:29 AM
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No. Look, we speak about male violence, we have gendered terms for things men do, we have no problem singling out men when it's time for blame. Now, when some people want to address the problems men face, we shouldn't have any problem doing so. Only specifying “male” when you talk about this devalues the feelings of lonely women, etc. and that’s not ok. I see the opposite happening. People bring up that men are more lonely and don't have deep connections with people (something feminists use to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:49 PM
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If you talk about something that most women do they’ll say “not all”, they’ll claim how “you’re just not meeting the right women” That's not mansplaining according to my understanding. Mansplaining would be a male electrician explaining medicine to a female doctor. Simply saying, "don't stereotype us" is something everyone does. There are times when that's inappropriate, but I don't think that should be based on gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:37 PM
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No, there are definitely people who should not be parents. It's actually good if people realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 07:32 PM
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If you are a man, feminists, liberals and left wingers in general are gonna hate you anyway just because of your gender. I'm a left winger and a man. I don't hate men. I speak out against the hatred of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 04:39 AM
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No, you're just being inconsistent to sell their weird gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:49 AM
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Jewish people aren't responsible for this, it's israelis. Jewish ≠ israelis. And a group of men from one specific country is different from men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:19 AM
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On the bright side, posts like this prove that being gay isn't a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:38 AM
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I'd say that's fucking horrific, what else do you expect? When Palestine was being flattened, did you ask Jewish people against antisemitism to comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:36 AM
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Her only "right" stuff is Israel related. Again, that's not true. Her "right stuff" is being connected to multiple conservative groups and standing with other conservative ideologues. This is really easy to look up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:11 PM
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So the only books she ever written about feminism were against feminism. Can you see the grift now? She's also a member of a right wing think tank, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:38 PM
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I'm not a redpiller, I support equality for everyone, I'm probably a lot less of a stereotypical man than a lot of bluepillers, and I can't stand a lot of feminists. And where did you hear that redpillers hate gender roles. They would fall for the alpha-male grift if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:15 AM
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Christina Hoff Sommers isn't a feminist, she's a right wing grifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:03 AM
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Do you came into the comments to say, "we're not man-hating, just elitist assholes"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:01 AM
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Once again, I wanted to upvote based on the title but... Pain doesn't make you better. A few people had good lives, but also good parents that taught them accountability. I do wish they'd understand that privilege a little more, but I think you're making a mistake a lot of hurt people make. Eventually it leads to rationalizing hurting other people. I'm not on here as much as I use to be, but you can send me a message if you need to talk about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:58 AM
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Bad guys "flourish" in that they got the cookie (pussy). No, I was speaking generally. This is something so universal that there's a whole book of the bible about it. Oh no... look at them on their cross! Aren't they the new Jesus Christ?! You okay? No one's pitying guys who act like they're wounded heroes from their favorite fantasy game. I know guys with those mindset, they were creep covert narcissists. Some might be, but if you treat everyone like that then how are you no different from men …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 01:22 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:01 PM
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Just because they have a lower looks standard does not mean they want the average woman. Can you give us an example of an "average" woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:09 PM
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NOT EXPECTING A REWARD FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR If these discussions are going anywhere, you have to realize that a lot of men have been punished for what we call good behavior, the behavior they're told to embody. It's not just about being good not coming with a reward but being good coming at a cost while seeing bad people flourish. Reducing that to, "you want a cookie?" just means you lost a lot of men who might have listened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:57 PM
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Women can choose if their bodies don't have children. Men's bodies cannot Cis men don't have to carry children within their bodies. I think there are many men's issues that get ignored, but ignoring the way pregnancy affects men and women differently won't help that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 06:09 AM
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Because they never been pegged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:02 AM
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I think it came from the pickup artist community. Its not about lowering standards but making women want to prove themselves to you. Does it work? Like all scams, it works enough to be worth it to the people who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 04:05 PM
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But guys are allowed to ignore glaring red flags in a first date, like she insists on a 3 course fancy dinner that you pay for, she asks for money in advance. Because poor men never get a chance Gold digger or not, I'm pretty sure the guy will be called stupid and a simp for that. I never know where women get these ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:58 PM
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Guys if you wanted to you could just go full blown barbaric on women. Your physically stronger than most women to begin with. What period are you living in. The only way that could happen today is with the cooperation of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:49 AM
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I only read one of her books, but I got the opposite impression. Didn't someone recently quote her when disagreeing with a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 07:47 AM
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Per capita, you're still more likely to be raped by someone of your own race. Not sure what you thought you did there. If you actually looked at the data, you'd see that white women and black women are raped at similar rapes. Maybe you did see it and that's why you didn't actually post it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 08:18 AM
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Well people who legally emigrated are getting screwed over too so still not worth the death of citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:55 AM
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If you want a lawful country then you must have law enforcement. And Ice has shown they don't care about the law to the point where they will murder citizens. Honestly, supporting Ice is the same as wearing a shirt saying you're a Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 12:32 AM
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People were way more mad at “all lives matter”, As they should be. Police, however, took offense to people protesting against police brutality and responded with police brutality. Now there are people missing eyes because police caught feeling and didn't know how to use rubber bullets. Last I checked recent ICE raids have yielded tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. Ignoring the hundreds of legal immigrants who have been detained, I don't give a shit about undocumented immigrants unless they…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 04:55 PM
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You talked about how men and women are different. You understand that privilege is different, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 05:57 AM
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Men are biologically privileged How?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 11:14 PM
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Being oppressed or minority gives benefits, better treatment, even helps with education and employment prospects. Bruh. People got mad at people saying, "Black Lives Matter." You can be detained by ice for having an accent or speaking Spanish. It is not sweet out here for minorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:57 PM
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As long as it's consensual, I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:52 PM
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we should have more good male role models that show it’s okay to not be successful, I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm genuinely trying to clarify something. "Successful" wasn't the word meant to use, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 05:51 PM
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The ones that do probably are misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:48 AM
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Askfeminists isn't for critique. Isn't that one of those spaces even other feminists don't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 11:47 PM
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everyone can perform sexual acts. Everyone can put a paintbrush to a canvas, not everyone can be a painter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:45 PM
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Have you ever heard the term, "outlier"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:44 PM
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I would say that you should talk to some people involved in sex work to learn that it's a varied field and a lot more than just existing, but I get a feeling you don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:34 PM
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A commercial artist values their art skills, a professional boxer values their fighting ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:42 AM
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I'm asking why the men who don't adapt, think they'll ever find a woman who will agree to that. Because there are literally women who want what men traditionally bring to the table and are willing to accept that. Those traditional aspects are what they see as "men pulling their weight". I'm not even traditionally masculine or anything but I've even witnessed so-called progressive women demand acts of traditional masculinity, especially protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:34 AM
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Sure because I don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:11 AM
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The OP already did right in her post. The post isn't even that long, do you really need me to copypasta?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:11 AM
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eah, and by “raising those issues” she “admitted that she didn’t want a man” in your eyes. No, but by dismissing the things men are thought to bring to the table and dismissing them while seemingly attributing problems to men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:09 AM
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You're not being honest. I'm not saying you're not raising some important issues That was me acknowledging that the OP raised important issues but seems not to want a man for anything. If that's true, then that's her truth. Also, I don't know anything about a singleness epidemic but a loneliness epidemic which goes beyond romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 06:58 AM
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I'm not saying you're not raising some important issues, but it really just sounds like you don't want a man. Don't get one. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:21 AM
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There's misogynists here and non-misogynists. There are misandrists and non-misandrists. It's a debate sub. People want to see other viewpoints or just have their own be heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:58 AM
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This isn't an advice sub but a debate sub. I assume a lot of people here just want to know what other people are saying. If the goal is to get with women, why are you dwelling in a space most women would be put off by? I'm sorry, but do you think the women-focus spaces don't put off men? Honestly, they put off a lot of women. If you think you’re a genuinely nice, handsome guy with good social skills and wonder why you’re not attracting anyone, I don’t think being on this sub is exactly supportin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 05:52 AM
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If you only see men as either MRAs or Feminists then that's part of the problem. In any case, Obama identifies as a feminist, but when he started My Brother's Keeper for inner city Black and Hispanic men, feminists spoke against it for not including women. Men's centers in colleges, Movember, international men's day, ending preferential treatment for women in roadside assistance programs due to statistics not supporting a need, all have faced backlash. If you want to say, "not all feminists," th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:39 AM
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Get the ball rolling in that and we’ll support it. Every leftist would. You know that's not true because we have a history of that not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:05 AM
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Is this the right place to say, "fuck you," to all the people using this post to make the racially charged posts that aren't suppose to be allowed while ignoring that you're most likely to face violent crime within your own demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:32 PM
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If anything, statistics support being prejudiced against black people Not really. Most rapists in the US are white men and you're more likely to face violent crime by someone of your own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:24 PM
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As you know, catering exclusively to men is seen as misogynist so men who don't want to be labelled so will avoid (and probably speak against) such efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 05:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 08:22 AM
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You already know the answer to that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 07:05 AM
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That's more of a podcast/youtube thing. Fresh and Fit would do that and then throw out any woman who disagreed with them too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 03:39 AM
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Like MAGA for example. Does being republican make you bad? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 12:49 AM
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The issue isn't being friends, it's not being seen the same way you see someone else and then having to see them go on and date other men who you will then go on to compare yourself to. I understand that the woman in this situation shouldn't be seen as the bad guy, but we can all acknowledge the feeling of the guy as well. Like imagine turning up to the club with multiple women. That shit makes you look desirable. Now I'm imagining a guy at a club surround by all the female friends that rejected…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:51 AM
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By that logic, people of any gender can be friends with a rapist. Framing it as, "most men are friends with a rapist," gives the implication that most men are covering for or ignoring rape committed by a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:42 AM
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No one cares about men as victims unless maybe they are some discriminated against minority too. Nope. There are people who may support some black male victims, but don't like black males. Roda Osman came up on this sub a few times; even after her conviction she still has supporters and people who outright say she shouldn't be punished. Even on this sub you can find people who hate autistic men specifically. There are some activists who want to be shitty to someone and see even marginalized men …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 10:54 PM
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But if you still haven't been in a relationship, doesn't it seem like the redpill stuff isn't working?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 01:14 PM
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this is really the crux of modern dating issues as women (and society to a degree) thinks there is a lack of good men Not really. There are many women in good loving relationships. Just as many incels think the problem is with women, there are women who have things to work on that blame men for being single. even if we ignore looks/ and height, it appears to me that men who are kind, considerate, funny, financially stable, monogamously oriented, sociable, generous, fun to be with, for instance, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:20 AM
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Most women offline do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:16 AM
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Like Frankly mustering up sympathy for womens issues is difficult and annoying. If that's how you honestly feel, you should see someone about that. And yes, I would say the same to a woman who said the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:00 AM
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because they always shame “manly men” I don't know if shame is the right word, but they do it to every type of men. There's a section that seems to specifically hate black men. But that doesn’t mean leftists and liberals can’t still speak directly to men. They can acknowledge how men are not achieving higher level and college education. They can acknowledge how men suffer from mental illness and suicide at a higher rate. They can acknowledge the men who die or are severely injured from workplace…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:06 AM
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I think he's talking about the Florida's National Organization for Women's stance on a Florida senate bill to adjust alimony and custody laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:09 AM
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Everyone is the problem, this sub is the obvious proof. Everyone knows male issues have to be tackled, but conservatives just want to co-op the issues to bash the left while liberals begrudgingly tackle them to stop people from going to conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:36 AM
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What constitutes a simp in y’all’s eyes? Any man who would give up their self-respect for a woman. Is calling a man a simp missandry? No. To me, it truly seems like treating a woman well is frowned upon by men; why is that? Because some men over correct for times men are basically told to simp but admonished when they expect something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:56 AM
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It literally is, just not one you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:23 AM
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attractive people have more options regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:07 AM
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I understand the question, just not why you would need to ask it. Yes, attractive people have more options regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 05:14 PM
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further implying that younger women are, or should be, reserved for more robust men. Or with men their own age. This isn't that complicated. If there was a couple who were both the same age and someone said the more attractive one should find someone else, we'd call that person an asshole. Why is it more offensive to see a weak, fat, ugly bald man matched with a younger, pretty woman than an older, homely one? The only logical answer almost suggests itself - the younger woman is more valuable an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:51 PM
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People who make fun of older guys interested in younger women can't help implying that She can do better than you, suggesting logically that Younger women have more options because they are more desirable. Or that people who have to prey on youths are generally losers in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:05 PM
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One was her criticism of white feminists. I remembered I said something similar and was accused of using repill talking points. Another was a part when she was discussing the negative feelings she experienced listening to the problems of men. I'll try to make a more in depth post when I have the book in front of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 12:57 AM
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When I read The Will to Change I was shaking my head at all the stuff bell hooks was saying that I've said to feminists and got called misogynist. I don't know if I'd say men are better prepared, but a lot of women who call themselves feminists aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:19 AM
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Sure, as much as religious leaders or Tony Robbins-like self help speaker. Abusing and taking advantage of downtrodden men is a big industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:22 AM
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No he doesn't. A wide range of people don't like her and it has to do with her "barely legal" content, not that she's a porn star. There are feminists who make porn, both behind and in front of the camera.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:19 AM
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I think the person you're responded to wanted to know where we can see an example of the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:08 AM
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Neither of those guys are saying that. The first one is just talking about introversion which they mistakenly equate with lack of social skills and social life. There are introverted people who are the introverted person in "the group". They say nothing about just wanting sex. The second guy seems to think lonely men are a democratic scam or something so that's way different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:47 PM
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It is wrong for grown men to chase after teenagers. Or any adult to do that, agreed. I was talking about men being called immoral for who they won't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 11:43 PM
0

But men here have a similar narrative, that every woman that’s not boning them is a slut who’s boning Chad. The coping incels, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:25 PM
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I think a lot more men would be okay with this if they weren't always told that their standards are morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:23 PM
1

You mean that comment by the redpiller? I think we both know why they said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:22 PM
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I don't think you post in good faith, but I see a mistake in this post that a lot of posts make. Why do you think these men aren't cultivating a social life? Do you think they don't want a social life? Isn't that weird for a human or even just any mammal? Or, do you think there's a reason they're like that? Could it be that they were ostracized, bully, abused and have a hard time overcoming that? With all that in mind, is it really fair to compare them to someone you think of as "normal" and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:47 AM
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You say that like men don't hear it regarding every problem they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:19 PM
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G8 B8 M8.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 08:10 AM
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This is the first time I'm hearing this and I've read a lot about gender issues. Where did you see this idea? why don't men advocate for a seperate land free from rapists women? The same reason women don't advocate for similar. Are you really arguing in good faith right now? EDIT: User was suspended, so I guess not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:48 AM
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Explain to me how a woman could believe that a man who is sleeping on his couch in his own home is trying to expose himself to her? People who expose themselves don't always just jump out and cry, "I'm exposing myself." He ordered food and food apps give you the first name and picture of the person delivering. He was in view of the door, where the food would be put, lying on the couch with his pants down. A person delivering the wouldn't expect a person to be sleeping much less sleeping with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:18 PM
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Did you guys know you can tag other posters in RES? You just click on the little tag and write something like, "Troll" and then you'll know to ignore everyone with that tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:31 AM
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No, that doesn't make her liar. She could easily believe that he had his pants down to expose himself to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:12 AM
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Wasn't that the entire basis of HeForShe? Didn't we just see the end of the Roda Osman story that started because she (and others) were mad that black men didn't fight a guy for her? Like, I get that a lot of the stuff posted here is ragebait, but we shouldn't respond with intellectual dishonesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 10:13 PM
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That's a pretty low bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:59 PM
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She was arrested for recording him in his own home (where he has a reasonable expectation of privacy) and disseminating the video. That doesn't make her a liar, it makes her whatever the non-ableist word for stupid is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:58 PM
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Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record. There's no evidence of that part and there doesn't need to be. It comes from doctored screencaps of the original video. She was wrong regardless of if the door was wide open, regardless of if he did it on purpose. That's why I'm frustrated with both sides of this discussion and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 09:55 PM
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This is another example of people seeing something backwards because it's about men. Men face shitty people in real life, then they see people dismiss and excuse and celebrate shittiness online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 07:09 PM
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Grindset culture is toxic and contributes to the death of men. You want them to do that and pursue relationships on top of it? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:41 AM
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Do you know how frustrating it is to be accused of sexism if you point out a wrong of an individual woman, but then asked to answer for guys in the comments of a video about silicone dolls?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:40 AM
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That's nonsense. Trump won because liberals didn't show up to the polls and some of the people responsible for that are feminist (just not all feminists).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:36 AM
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Turns out she lied about it, and actually opened the man’s door to record him in order to gain sympathy. There's not evidence of that, it comes from a cropped version of the original video.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:09 AM
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I'm guessing they see it as women having "power" over them or living on easy mode. That's me going off what I've heard some men say. Personally, I think any woman who gives me a chance to see their boobs is awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:54 PM
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Im talking about the division of whore and wife the most men divide women mentally Im a man but I personally never felt that. Most men who think like that are either redpillers who choke on traditionalism or incels who are insecure about their own sexual performance. You're not special for thinking otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:11 PM
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NO. Just no and it's complete lack of awareness and gaslight. Men spelled it out for us, in no uncertain words that they don't want to be in relationship, don't want to be liked enough for relationship, some want to be assholes but still get sex. If that was true, they'd just get sexworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:18 PM
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Women are good at organizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:22 AM
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People are commenting just to say they don't want to comment. You can't make this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 05:21 AM
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Do you hear a lot of talk about male societal problems IRL? It's funny that people in this thread are saying it was made by women to shit on men while a lot of female advocates will say it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:40 AM
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till somebody finds other evidence id say men invented the term As opposed to...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 05:37 AM
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If young men were fighting against having to perform gender norms so they could do something else, they would be much better perceived. So if I'm reading right, you're not for men being freed from gender roles. You think they have to compensate being freed from the male gender role by taking up the female gender role?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 04:26 PM
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No. I don't want any predetermined roles for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 06:43 AM
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And as with abusive age-gap relationships, they'll share the redflags that other woman should look out for. It's not just revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:07 PM
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Pretty sure it comes from women who dated older men when they were young and have stories of abuse and loserdom. I don't get why people constantly defend unequal relationships here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 02:57 PM
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Individual women? Sure. But people who speak for women (which includes many men) don't want societal issues men face getting attention unless women are the victims somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:12 PM
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I always thought this was addressed to women who say they want a 6'3 guy who makes six figures and blahblahblah.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:57 AM
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While I believe an environment that values human life is good for all humans, I also believe taking my life would be a wrong against me as I have a right to continue my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:56 AM
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Yes, in the sense that murdering me will be a great wrong. This is how I view all human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:34 AM
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We're not talking about literally raising, but providing aid to alleviate the symptoms of poverty which cause problems for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:19 AM
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Or we take care of men in general so they grow up healthy and better able to take part in society. For the record, I do support sexual surrogates that help sexually inexperienced men. I can't think of a good reason people who talk about sexlessness never talk about surrogates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:04 AM
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Not pity, self interest. That's the reason to be involved in society in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 02:01 AM
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Why should a man care about the children of other men? Because those will be the men and women we will be living with. Taking care of them is taking care of ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:54 AM
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Children from single-parent households are way more likely to get involved with crime. Sounds like we have a reason to help if only for our self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:53 AM
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To me, this basically seems like a form of state-mandated cuckoldry Ya'll are so unserious. I'm actually in favor of helping single mothers. If you don't care about them, then care about their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 01:36 AM
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Forgot to post a np link.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:56 PM
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They definitely won the support of the LGBT community forever... but at what cost for that about 3% of Americans? You think only 3% of Americans care about LGBT issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 04:14 AM
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I'm interested in where you got that statistic from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:01 PM
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I will never, for the life of me, understand people who don't have friends but you do you ??? That's like saying, "I will never understand PTSD, but you do you.' It's not really something people choose but the result of lived experiences. It's a shame because a lot of your comment was good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:23 AM
2

Maybe this is because I'm an adult (or a man attracted to adults) but there are plenty of 30+ women I find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:59 PM
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But when a man says something like that ("i've dated a gold digger", "women suck nowadays") he is met with sympathy. Men don't scrutinize him, don't look for faults in him, don't say "choose better" That depends on if he takes a woman back. If he dumps a woman as soon as she reveals something is wrong with her, cool. If he gives her another chance then he's a cuck-simp-whateverthenewwordis.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:44 PM
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Bisexuality gives you the advantage of a much larger potential mating pool There was just a post here about a video where women said they would rather date a cheater than a bisexual man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:15 AM
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If I hit a guy who is way bigger than me, I still expect to be hit back.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:18 PM
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You can argue their points but to easily dismiss them as white knights or thirsty individuals is wrong. But we're all clear on the fact that there are a lot of white knights, right? Roda Osman recently came up on this sub and I remember being disgusted with the men who were sticking up for her after she was charged with fraud due to video evidence. This whole subject has me remembering when men of color would write viral articles about how they go out of their way to make women feel safe because…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:45 AM
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Can't tell if this is a joke or not because it's the kind of comment I expect from this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:23 AM
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I regularly listen to Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, Lex Fridman as I find the discussions fascinating. Do I agree with their every opinion? Of course not. I do believe that they’re overall a positive force. I don't think I'd fit in with a lot of bluepillers even though I think RP is toxic, but here's my take: Joe Rogan actively contributes to the spread of misinformation that causes harm to the general public. There's a science youtuber called Professor Dave who has talked a lot about …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:08 AM
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Where porn is available, sexual assault goes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 08:05 PM
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Black people didn’t cancel rallies because enough white people didn’t show up. What do you think was the end game of those rallies and marches? Do you everyone there was a Malcom X style separatist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:57 PM
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Black people didn’t need white people to join in on their marches. Whether or not I want women to join efforts to help men, I assure you I'd prefer people like you to just stay the fuck away. People with power speaking out against a cause hurts the cause; this happens more with men because men are also seen as oppressors. Of course you knew all this, but you want to pretend men raising awareness for prostate cancer or Obama trying to help black men or any of the other times men tried to address …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:32 AM
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So you don't want people to say that passport bros take advantage of the poverty in other countries because the people pointing it out aren't the ones in a position to be taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:42 AM
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Honestly, I'd settle for women not trying to dismiss or downplay it, but I have a feeling this post is just another example of that. There's this weird cycle where men are told to work with women to solve male problems, then told not to expect women to help with male problems, then told the problem isn't real anyway. The worst part is the people who pretend not to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:39 AM
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Many of the people who have those kinks might not know why. You can develop a kink from a childhood event in the back of your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:54 PM
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There’s nothing specific that women need to do to address male loneliness. They definitely don't have to sleep or have a relationship with anyone they don't want to. But denying the problem and /or suggesting individualist "solutions" contributes to the problem in the same way it does for women's problems. No one, including women, should be contributing to the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:51 PM
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Hedonistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:15 PM
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You're right. Contraception is great for more than one gender. That makes it even easier to dismiss those to think it would be good to ban it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:27 AM
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A lot of people see the male loneliness epidemic as either non-existent or self-inflicted. They also think it's just about men feeling entitled to sex. Knowing that, you purposed taking away access to something that gave women freedom and the power to choose if and how they want to have a family. You're asking for the women here to ignore you and other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:18 AM
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Banning contraception Every group on this sub needs publicists and copywriters.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 05:05 AM
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I speak about both, a lot of men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:49 AM
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The Roda Osman situation was about more than not wanting to speak on the false accusation. There is a group of people who hate black men but don't want to be called on it. Her accusation gave them a reason to come out and show that hate. They don't care if it was an assault or a man defending himself, he shouldn't have the right to defend himself anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:46 AM
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I think most of the women I've heard talk about it said it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:31 AM
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Some people on reddit say that the rate of mass shootings will increase because of women not giving up sex as easilyas they are expected ... and expect people to cuddle them. I want to scold you for going after the low-hanging fruit, but I know someone will say the exact same thing the second I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:05 PM
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Right? If this really needs to be said then the world is doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:35 AM
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Do you have an example of when a woman is the cause of the problem an a man is blamed? There was the Roda Osman/Brick lady situation. A woman falsely accused a man of hitting her with a brick when she refused to give him her number. The accusation alone caused division among black women and men with men being blamed for not stepping in. Security footage showed that she actually attacked him and he defended himself. The accused was still blamed for... I don't know but he and black men were still …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:33 PM
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Ugly men still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:21 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 10:52 AM
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Um... this advice is basically telling young women to be the stereotype redpillers spread about young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:07 AM
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In other words, not only are feminist women not punished at all but they actually get to cuck their husbands with no problems. You guys need copywriters or marketing majors or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:00 PM
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Can you give me an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 09:20 AM
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Where are you getting these statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:19 AM
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During a situation between the two. Emiru was crying. And Mizkif comfort her while she was crying. And then MizKif kiss her, she says she let MizKif kiss her. And Mizkif begins to shove his hands down her pants. And then she screamed. And then MizKif jump off her, and says he felt like he did something bad. And he left without apologizing to her. Again this situation proves why non verbal consent is BS. But It doesn't matter how many times these situations happen. Women, blue pillers, and femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:18 AM
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"Judging by the title, there are some valid points one could make. Let me just read the OP and... Dear god."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:07 AM
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It actually did happen to me when I was young (not in a sexual way or anything) and I didn't feel harassed. I won't speak for all men, but it wasn't harassment to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:57 PM
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My city is full of weirdos. Someone telling me to smile would be so far from the worst interaction I had with a strange woman in public that it wouldn't even register.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 05:35 PM
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They either want to have sex with the female friend or are having sex with the female friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:47 AM
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I’ve noticed that the men here align their identity first and foremost as men. If I do that here, then it's only in the context of these conversations. Ironically, people think of "men" as "high-class men," and it's the men with vulnerable identities who suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:34 AM
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Can you speak on how this terrible behavior has affected you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 09:01 PM
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I think it's an over-correction to people assuming unsuccessful men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 05:56 AM
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Women masking better isn't just an explanation for dating differences (although I recognize that it is used that way) but their actual ability to mask and repress their stimming, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 08:01 PM
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This is often said but makes no sense. I was going to agree with you if we were talking about conservative men raised in conservative areas, but those men have conservative women who want them to fulfill their traditional gender role. A lot of men here were born during or after the era of girl power and women empowerment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:31 PM
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if a guy has money and can't find a relationship in his home country, what's the problem with traveling and trying to find a relationship abroad? If the difficulties finding a relationship lie in him, then he's probably traveling abroad to find women who are in a more desperate situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 05:42 AM
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If I'm getting punished either way, AND said punishment forces me on a railroad to be a shitty person, might as well get the benefit out of it. You literally sound like a lot of men who fall into the manosphere. What would you tell them? Are they right for giving up on altruism? If so, then by all means do the same and I'll guess we'll just all be shitty to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:33 PM
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He's a male feminist that openly talked about feminism and supported the Times Up campaign only to have a sexual misconduct allegation go viral. They're called performative for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 03:05 PM
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Aziz Ansari is a performative male.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:21 AM
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This is why I only shame zionists and video game publisher CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:01 AM
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Abortions have existed since ancient Egypt and were seen as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:08 AM
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I judge neither willing sex worker nor client. I am interested in how you can be sure you're not hiring a woman pressured or trafficked into sex work. I tried to make a post on a related topic, but something went weird; have you looked into surrogate partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 02:06 AM
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I think your general point is that we shouldn't blame victims of abuse. Granted. Was this the best way to say it? Nope. We already blame men for everything negative that happens to them (unless they're a bigoted podcaster) so a lot of men will shrug as this. And that's when we're actually willing to say the man was the victim. A woman was caught lying about a man hitting her with a brick after she rejected him (caught as in video footage) and a lot of people still supported her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 03:09 AM
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A lot of the posts here are made in bad faith, so I often assume bad faith. If you posted in good faith, then I apologize. What I meant was that people have no problem holding interests against men when they will outright villainize men for things out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 10:33 PM
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Im curious what is the point of this topic to begin with? Beats me. I really hate seeing the justification of relationships with power imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 04:17 PM
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One of my flaws is that I don't communicate what I need, partly because I'm used to people not listening or attempting to gaslight. It becomes second nature to assume someone is doing (or not doing) something on purpose. Of course, when you do speak up you become the bad guy somehow so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:25 PM
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younger women are harder to manipulate because they have infinitely better options than old women That assumes that the younger woman knows she has better options. The older woman could have been the younger woman who got into an age-gap relationship and later realized she was being abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:58 PM
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I'm not surprised that anyone who talks redpill stuff IRL is like this, but I'd caution against inadvertantly sending young men over to them. I remember reading about a study how the highest amount of misogyny was displayed by men who already felt in the bottom of the hierarchy - while top men usually welcome women and treat them much better. Basically, the need to bash women comes from needing to feel superior to anyone, but not having enough skills to be superior to fellow men, making women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:53 PM
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your ability to get an arranged marriage and to be a nepo baby that constantly brags about how your family land, govt job, and everything else will be handed to you. Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 02:34 PM
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The shame is on your ( the virgin ) 's end. If I were a woman and I'm talking to a mid 20s+ guy and he's a kissless virgin, that signals very clearly for one or several reasons, every girl in this guy's life has found him undesirable. This is perfectly reasonable discernment. Something about you has made every other women turn away or deny your pursuits up to that point. I honestly don't know how to steelman that into any other than you support virgin shaming. Honestly, it seems like giving a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:55 AM
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So your point wasn't that it's not virgin shaming but that you support virgin shaming. Just say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:31 AM
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What do you expect my response to that question to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 12:29 AM
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I don't care what a woman reads unless she wants me to read it with her. Also, men are often judged by their interests. Even in this sub I've seen someone blast men just for being on the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 04:13 PM
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Angie left him and is now dating a regular guy that roller blades for a living. I love that for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 06:00 PM
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That's not saying the post is for redpill men, that's using redpill men to put the onus of making empathy go both ways on men. You know this, you know what context is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:58 PM
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How this sub makes me feel sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:56 PM
1

No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:52 PM
1

There are more people here than just redpill and bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:15 PM
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Can you find crappy feminists online? I mean obviously, but point at feminist theory saying this isn't horrible, it says the opposite I would love to agree with you if we weren't in a post where someone is outright judging men by redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 03:14 PM
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Honestly, what was your respected response when posting this? Who did you imagine reading it and what did you think they would take from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:24 AM
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You think the loneliest men have women making googly eyes at them in the gym? Honestly, think of a man you think is suffering from loneliness; would you really be okay with him approaching a woman at a gym because he thought he got a signal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:45 PM
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This reads like you want permission to insult men in ways that would go against claimed ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:03 PM
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This reads like post #626 of, "If you're struggling then it's because you're not a good person." We really need to get used to the idea that some people fall into toxicity because of how they were treated when they tried to be a good person. Posts like these don't help.Imagine a woman who had tons of bad experiences with men and someone telling her she should just try to be more open and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 11:02 PM
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Your changing the scope of the conversation. Most women aren't raped by an acquaintance because they searched out serial killers, but because a rapist searched them out. A lot of times it's a male family member, not even someone they were pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:47 PM
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Men are told that it's our job to provide and protect. How do you "date down" in that context?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:06 AM
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Studies have shown that women are far more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted by a boyfriend or husband than by a random stranger. Although there's a lot of hysteria over these statistics, what's often ignored is the question of why these women chose such violent men. They often don't know the men are violent. It's really not that difficult to understand. Studies have proven that a large percentage of women, if not a majority, have rape fantasies, indicating violence and toxicity are attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:05 AM
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I hate the moral cowardice of conservatism and men No, you hate the cowardice of conservatives and religion but you're not brave enough to criticize religion directly even if it's the cause of this problem so you just attack men because it's safer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 01:28 PM
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If a woman was being an asshole and you poked fun at her body in response, that would be body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 12:27 PM
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How would you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 02:31 AM
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Suppose she is very attractive both physically and personality-wise. She is aesthetically pleasing and she's an eye-candy, so you're proud to have her on your arm, I don't think being attractive is a trade off for celibacy. Such a tradeoff would be possible depending on the quality of her companionship, but it's weird you thought just being pretty would be the thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 02:24 PM
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This LOST reboot sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 04:39 PM
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And it would be cool if everyone had that perspective, but we know a lot of people don't. We know a lot of men are chastised for pointing out that not all men are the problem. Even other men would roll their eyes and go, "lol not all men" if he asked if all men did a woman wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:38 PM
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sigh You know how men are discussed, so you know what his answer will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 03:02 PM
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Yes you do have to be monogamous in both cases. Gooning considered considered cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 06:33 PM
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Yes it is, if you're odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 04:33 AM
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I personally like men and I don't want to see them hurt or suffering. I'm not willing to take women backwards to fix that, so there has to be another way. I think most normal people want the same, but it seems like all gender-based groups want people to pick a side.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:21 PM
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they were raised with the idea that being a man is a special awesome thing that makes them superior, when, in fact, men and women are mostly pretty similar and being a man isn't actually better than being a woman (nor is it worse). Being a man doesn't make you more brave or a better leader or whatever. Nor does it make you more violent or immoral. I'm older than Gen z, and this wasn't my experience. If anything, I think it's that we're against male privilege but still enforce male gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:16 PM
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In other words, you were just trolling. Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:53 PM
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What am I missing? A reason for this post. Seriously, what was the endgame? Did you want men to say, "guess we should all die"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 01:08 AM
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They are doing their part to "decenter" men. I think they're doing it because they are receiving less and less support and liberties. There's now a push to stop pregnant women from taking Tylenol. I wouldn't get pregnant either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:27 AM
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"Babies are bad. Abortion is awesome (notice the use of the word awesome rather than 'permissible' or 'something that should be legal')." I've known women who had abortions, I don't think any of them called it awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:35 PM
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In modern dating a lot of people like to claim that promiscuity is the same for men and women Bro, where?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:21 PM
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When you're raised in a place with any kind of systemic oppression, most people harbor some of the resulting attitudes. Yes, women follow gender roles, LGBT people will display anti-LGBT sentiments, racial minorities will uphold white supremacy. This was always known.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:18 AM
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That's a great question because there's a lot of pretenders on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 04:29 PM
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Most men don't care about half the things other men talk about online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 07:42 AM
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WTF? So your position is, "if you're on the spectrum... fuck you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:07 AM
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Great, so I'm not the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:47 PM
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I'm confused; wasn't there just a post saying men don't pursue women as much?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:45 PM
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Her rich husband thought he owned her. She gave up the easy life for a life of adventure and chasing her dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 07:46 PM
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I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying. The only issue is that men aren't seeing the interest and therefor not pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:17 PM
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Worker control since some flavors of socialism are libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 01:47 PM
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what do you think about the abuse of power within socialism regarding who controls or lets say supervises everything? You mean like exactly what is happening in America's capitalist government right now? This is why Orwell, a socialist, wrote about authoritarianism and took influence from the right (Nazis) and left (Soviet Union). Stalin's view of socialism was his own " Marxism–Leninism", which doesn't align with other views like anarchism. So this question: please explain socialism in detail p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 01:44 PM
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What do you consider socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:44 AM
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I'm begging everyone to actually read something written by an actual socialist. Seriously, what do you think socialism is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:39 AM
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In my post a few days ago when i asked men why they don't put in an effort to pursue women. NO SHIT!!! women are open to date men they like and they are not open to date men they don't like. So you asked a question already knowing the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:24 PM
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Initially it did, but it was later used to refer to the self-described "incel" community which was filled with misogyny, racism, and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:33 AM
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Why is this a question for men? Not all men are part of the manosphere and you post acknowledges that you've seen similar behavior in women focused groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:08 AM
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I think you mistook "last guys finish last" for "alpha fucks beta bucks".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:00 AM
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It's not "men" but the government using money women pay into as well. We're talking offline, so there are plenty of women who want to help men. Meanwhile, a lot of the people who speak against helping men online are men (both left and right).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:34 PM
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Incel isn't the same as virgin. It's not even the same as people who are involuntary celibate. While I agree it's over used, it refers to men who are misogynist and bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:14 AM
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What made you believe the former?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 02:18 AM
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The men who gave up are blackpillers, men that have difficulties they can't compensate for. They're not in a position to profit from the gender war other than venting their bitterness (which has a place in moderation). Redpiller ideas were around way before the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:14 AM
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Yep. We got billions of people on this planet already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:11 AM
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It's coercion on a societal level. And again, isn't using that kind of desperation just being beta bucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:09 AM
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But here "not help you" means ignoring the societal problems women face that make them turn to desperate measures. That's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 09:12 PM
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Now that women don't have a safety net backed up by the force of the government they will have to convince a man to be that safety net and men already know what they want in return. Actually, that's gross. Isn't coercing women into relationships with desperation just "beta bucks"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:45 PM
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Why was the assumption that they only want zero effort sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:43 PM
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Is it the general consensus that virgin shaming men is good, or are there feminists who virgin shame. There's a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 05:37 PM
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The only one who gave a reason assumed a bi person would be cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:41 AM
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If they're not cheating, why would I care if they're bi?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 01:00 AM
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There are so many criticisms of feminism that can be valid but it seems like the only people willing to do it are always so unseriousness about it. If I were to steel man this post, I'd have to reduce it to, "feminists aren't perfect". Well, no duh. Most feminists here would agree. What exactly did you want to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:59 AM
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No one cares about birth rates. That's just a dumb excuse bigots use to hate abortion and gay marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:56 PM
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She is basically calling out men who blame their lack of dating lives on woman and saying that them not getting laid is actually natural selection and not evolving to their environment. That's asinine. Those men are bitter after being rejects and I agree that letting rejection get to you is wrong. Meanwhile, misogynists get laid or even married all the time. So is the problem with incels being less sneaky, less manipulative? She also finished it by saying that other men shouldn't bother with hel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:54 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:18 PM
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I like cooking. I don't care about body count and think purity culture is gross. I'm an atheist. I support sex work. I really don't care about living by gender standards even if I fit some.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:56 PM
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I'm not a traditional guy so wouldn't want a traditional woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:20 AM
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Look I know I’m gonna piss off a lot of red pill guys, inc**, Not really, you're basically spreading their propaganda as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:32 AM
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This was your experience, but there are many other examples of men helping each other. I had a Big Brother when I was younger. Adoption of black kids went up after the million man march. In ever city you can find men who volunteer as coaches or teaching young men things. Men sheds, Movember, CALM, men help each other all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:27 AM
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My point was that since that right is threatened and many states want control of their body once it's pregnant, they're going to be more angry than empathetic. If anything, a paper abortion would come off as giving women less funds to raise the children they might be forced to have. Now is actually the worst time to bring this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:01 AM
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As much as men talk/complain about how women change the rules for guys they're attracted to, men have no leg to stand on in that regard, either. If a man has two women, one he's attracted to and one who's not as attractive to him, guess which one he's going to make work harder. I'm not sure what you mean by "work harder" when men are the ones approaching and a lot of beautiful woman complain that men don't want to approach them. Men also like attention, so men will encourage it when they get it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:55 AM
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The issue is that now the relationship is different. You have feelings for them, they know you have feelings for them, and now you have to watch them have romantic relationships with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:49 PM
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Without the right to choose, women are forced to carry life inside of them, even when they are raped or half dead. Comparing that to paper abortion will make them less empathetic to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:15 AM
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Because men are pressured to be providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:51 PM
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The other stuff, like their personality, company, humor, perspective etc is stuff you DON'T value. This is asinine. All the things you listed above are also things you'd want in a partner. When you connect with someone so much that you realize you want them as a partner it doesn't mean you were lying. Maybe you never had this happen to you, cool. What you're not going to do is gaslight other young men struggling with those feeling into thinking they're bad people. They're just going to look at y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:47 PM
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Women basically want to see themselves as sexy sexual beings, with hot bodies and good looks, capable of drawing sexual attention. But they see the men who sexualise them as disgusting pigs. Same thing with sex work. Women who do only fans, porn, prostitution are all celebrated as strong independent women. Yet the men who utilise their services are seen as pigs Those are two separate issues. A woman can dress sexy and still not want random men to touch or harass them. There's not contradiction t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:23 PM
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You never later had a relationship with someone you hooked up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:20 PM
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So you’re going to pretend you didn’t respond to my original comment, Literally not. I referenced it if that's what you mean, but I clearly responded to the comment about abortion. You practice bodily autonomy when you consent to sex Or get a hair cut, or get a tattoo, or terminate a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:18 PM
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It did because you are clearly referencing my original comment. While responding to your comment about abortion. You aren’t a feminist but you defend their talking points passionately? Bodily autonomy isn't a feminist talking point any more than evolution is an atheist talking point. I know a lot of feminists say anyone who thinks all genders should have equal rights is a feminist, but I think everyone realizes that's way too oversimplified for a definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:32 PM
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I see you’ve chosen to ignore the concerns of child marriage That literally had nothing to do with the comment I responded to. Thank you for proving my point that anytime feminists face criticism I don't identify as a feminist so...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:17 PM
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I wish. Not only have I not changed my opinion on ideas but my opinion on people have bee solidified.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:10 AM
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You have, it’s commonly called abortion to purposely divorce you from the reality of what that actually means. It literally doesn't because 90% of abortions take place before there's anything that can be called a child. Your story reads like one of those flat earthers swearing they were just like me before they, "learned the facts".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:08 AM
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I switched my flair but it had nothing to do with me changing my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:04 AM
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Yeah. Hoe phases can be beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:04 PM
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I don't get your reason for engaging. You are given thoughtful replies and seem mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:59 PM
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I honestly can't tell if this is ragebait or... well if I posted something like this, I'd hope most people would think I'm ragebaiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:24 AM
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If you were an actual good man, you wouldn’t need a reward to incentivize you to be nice. I'm a leftist who is often frustrated because republicans get away with terrible behavior when leftists (or even just liberals) are destroyed for far less. Does that mean I want to act like a republican? Stop being intellectually dishonest. That hurts you more than the people you're trying to take shots at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:18 AM
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Here’s why: men choose who they approach. That’s real power. Literally everyone does. With the posts here blaming men's problems on themselves this is just asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:00 AM
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If you were just saying that a man being romantically unsuccessful doesn't mean he's a bad guy, I'd agree. When it comes to attraction, there isn't always a checklist you can accomplish to make the person you're attracted to be attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:03 PM
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He wanted to, but messed up by injuring multiple people on his way there. He killed four men and two women with several other people injured.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:32 PM
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Pretty sure. The first three people he killed were men. He shot at people, hit some with his car, and I'm certain most of them were men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 03:08 PM
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This is a hard conversation because incel doesn't mean what it means. When you see it used in the news it usually means misogynist. I've seen men with kids referred to as incels. So you'll have one guy talking about incels and thinking about 1955's MARTY. Another will think about a mass shooter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:59 PM
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Heavy agree. You can't logic someone into giving you the time of day and you shouldn't want someone who doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:34 PM
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Didn't he actually kill a lot more men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 02:34 PM
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Heavy agree. You can't logic someone into giving you the time of day and you shouldn't want someone who doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:16 PM
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If women just stopped being misandrist, men would stop being misogynistic. if misogyny (and the patriarchal structures supporting it) disappeared, misandry would wither. Without oppression, there’s no resentment to fuel it. Both ways of thinking are bullshit. There are obviously people who want to take us back to the past in terms of rights for anyone who isn't them. But even in the midst of the boys crisis and male loneliness epidemic, there are so called liberals who turn into republicans as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 01:23 AM
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I think anyone should be willing to protect their significant other to the best of their ability. That said, I don't think we should look at men as "the muscle" and we shouldn't be looking to men to defend women as a whole any more than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:12 PM
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Women cant complain that men are nomlonger chivalrous, ready to defend them and to believe all women are good cause they themselves domt reward the so called good men. This is a false dichotomy. I'm not chivalrous, my scrawny ass isn't about to defend anyone I'm not related to, and I doubt most people. None of that means I support other people being disadvantaged or having their rights stripped away. If you only did good to be rewarded with dates, you were never good to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:40 AM
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When women go to Africa or Turkey and do the same thing it's 'empowering'. Those women were called disgusting and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:12 PM
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Where are you getting this data?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:47 AM
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Same. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:56 PM
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Passport bros arent any different than successful men here. A lot of passport bros aren't that successful. That's why they have to go to a different country. There are plenty of women in first world countries looking for successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:54 PM
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Please, I get into arguments with both sides here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:53 PM
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Guy here. I talk about men's struggles all the time. I hate passport bros. Also, any sentence that starts with, "Everyone exploits..." isn't a good look.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:06 PM
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I wouldn't get involved with a woman who makes a game out of being reassured. I mean the type to put themselves down so that people have to tell them how great they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:20 PM
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Are you deadass asking if people here are against rape? Duh. I'll go further. We shouldn't even celebrate, or joke about, rapists getting raped in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:33 AM
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If you dont like how feminists see male sexuality as disgusting and degrading…..how about calling out loudmouths normalizing toxic behavior as “men being men” and/or blaming women for that toxic behavior? Yeah, I do that. I've done that here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:27 AM
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I don't have to justify anything. And thanks for helping kill the word "cuck". Supernatural made it cringe, but "virtual cuck"? You're really burying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:13 PM
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I'm not sure what your point with this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:34 PM
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Giving up a dollar isn't much of a sacrifice, but you don't owe it to me if I ask. Going on a date is much, much more of an ask and I don't want to live in a world where people are thought of as bad guys because they say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:48 PM
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Men who value purity in women are really just insecure about the fact that it’s easier for women to get laid than men, more specifically, fear of that woman having more sexual success than him. And protecting a fragile ego is a poor basis for a relationship standard. I agree with this mostly. To be more precise, they're afraid of being judged against all the other men women have been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:04 PM
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Freedom? Yeah, I know a lot of people hate it these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:48 PM
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You can have sympathy for someone without believing they are entitled to something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:01 PM
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Whether or not giving chances is good advice, it's not something anyone is owed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:58 AM
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Well I don't condone boys watching porn, but men and women watch it all the time. Doing so doesn't change your gender identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:15 PM
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Given you flair I'm not sure I should even respond but: Making a person have sex with you or any group of people is wrong. Compensating those whose hard work actually creates value for companies and society as a whole is good. Two very different categories that should not be compared unless you're just ragebaiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:04 PM
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It's not a man/woman thing, it's a blindspots thing. If there is anything wrong with women vetting it's that they think they have men all figured out. Imagine a sheep going around saying it knows more about wolves than wolves themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:14 AM
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Pearl Davis was demonetized on YouTube. As others said, private platform, but you're skipping the other thing: Peal Davis is an idiot. She copied manosphere talking points but couldn't defend any of them in a conversation. Even other right wingers took shots at her. Andrew Tate was arrested for several months I don't think the charge was having an unpopular opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:11 AM
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I’m not saying all passport bros are like this but I feel like the majority are Vast majority. Sometimes they'll even admit it without knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:04 AM
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Go out and meet real girls, the more you watch porn the more you stay an isolated beta simp. We're still pretending normal people don't watch porn? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:01 AM
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Video games arent politics to anyone but nerds/geeks/dorks. Milo Yiannopoulos made fun of gamers until gamergate. Was he a nerd or geek or dork? No, he was a conservative trying to capitalize. It's no different from a lot of the people we call grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:00 AM
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Nothing is 100% anyone's fault. Saying so just makes people shut down when you criticize them. Some do but if you ignore obvious signs because you’re attached to the fantasy, that’s not his fault. There aren't always obvious signs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 02:05 AM
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Firstly, people like that aren't "nerds" but political people. Second, no one sees him as an earnestly nice guy nor someone anyone expects to give a chance to. I'm in full agreement that being not being conventionally attractive or being odd doesn't make you a catch or even a decent person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:31 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that no one expects women to date the, "fucking pronouns" guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:59 PM
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I thought "don't pressure people who don't want kids into having them" was one of those things we all agreed with. When does this come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 01:13 PM
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How is anyone suppose to get that kind of data? You can be in a long term relationship with someone who makes it clear they don't even like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:21 AM
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Are you talking about the redpillers, because I'm sure a lot of them are fake and a lot others don't "live" redpill nonsense offline. If I were judging people off what gets posted here, I'd say no one here see men as people. You all swear you hate each other but should be doing that Arnold handshake meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:08 AM
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Anime isn't a genre. I watch a wide variety of shows from classic Shoujo to experimental Seinen. I don't watch Hallmark movies because they suck. For novels, I mostly read genre fiction while I read a lot of literary short stories. I've never been recommended a good romance novel. Is there a romance novel that isn't cliche and can be enjoyed by atypical readers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:42 AM
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If you want to be emotionally distant, thats fine. Just dont complain about it. Sure, but I don't think this is how they always were. It's more of a trauma response and we (society) should be helping people out before they get to that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:36 AM
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I'm pretty sure most men would be harmed by fascism, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:52 AM
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whether its the top of the top celebs, or more locally older men with money, Nah. The locally older man with money is not living like Shannon Sharp. Right or wrong, a lot of men with money would be more suspicious of women like the one Sharpe got involved with. Listen to what Monique told him.. Edit- Shannon Sharpe has a history of allegations with multiple women so I'm not defending him nor do I wish to make him seem like a victim. Also he was an asshole to Amanda Seales.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 07:53 PM
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No, porn is not a reflection on how you feel about your partner unless you're still watching it after they said it makes them uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:39 AM
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How did we get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:10 AM
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For as much as these dudes generalize women, they generalize men and perpetuate the issues they claim to want to put an end to at the same time. Are they even claiming to care about the issues these days. I mean the manosphere, not men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:28 AM
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Sadly, I think the people you're disagreeing with already accept this. In fact, doesn't everyone laugh at the guys who think they're entitled to women because they studied hard instead of partying. There's probably a name for the type of guy I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:40 PM
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As far as I know, the bluepill basically amounts to the statement "men who are good and kind people are successful with women". I think bluepill is basically "not-redpill". There may be more common bluepill attitudes, but I think most people on this sub understand that being a good person in and of itself will not get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 10:34 PM
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Where is the objectification? They're having sex, that doesn't mean they're treated like objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 06:52 PM
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I'm not seeing the problem here. You can have kinks and still be concerned with consent. You personally don't like BDSM, that's cool. Until whoever you're talking about pressures you into it, they're not a bad guy. Should we all tell you our kinks to see if you approve? I'll go first: I bought content from AFAB ENBYs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:18 PM
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But men not getting laid should not result in them voting against everything that would actually help them in life just because they’re upset at women for not choosing them. But that isn't really happening. Before everything about men revolved around incels, the manosphere was filled with divorced men and men who didn't want to pay child support. Everything is bigger than incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:57 AM
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I'm guessing you're trying to make right wing men feel like sexual losers for being right wing. Here are few of the problems with that: Everyone knows there are horrible men who have sexual relationships with women. Morality is not an indication that you'll get laid and everyone knows that. It's not the incels that put Trump in office. It's not even just men. Most white women who voted did so for him (by a narrow margin) so the problem was much deeper than gender. Religion. That is what's draggi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:34 AM
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Isn't it lazy if you are in a subreddit that talks about dating dynamics and human behaviour to just go "just because". It could be. In this context, we're calling men's desire to look at attractive women hypergamy. That's a reach and you to not know what hypergamy is to say otherwise. If this was a serious post asking about why men pay for onlyfans I would give a serious answer. It's not. But if thats the case I dont want to see guys complain about loneliness anymore. "Why are men lonely?" - "j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:03 AM
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Okay, so if we agree that they aren't trying to marry or have relationships with these women, then we can agree that it isn't hypergamy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:53 PM
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No, but it's feeling like I might have to. "Why do men like sports?" "Because sports are part of a ritual that helps the great old ones gain a hold on our world." "Maybe some guys just enjoy it?" "GREAT OLD ONES."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:52 PM
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Men would rather share this small percentage of women than lower their standards. Lower their standards for what? They're not marrying OF models.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:29 PM
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They are trying hard though. ... or they just like looking at attractive people. Y'know, like most of the human race. Why is everyone looking so deep into this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:27 PM
2

This sounds like the classic victim blaming women complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 05:23 PM
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I don't think most men want a "transactional" relationship, just one with reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:57 PM
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When did I say I was a feminist? Ignoring that, you posted an example of women and men being shitty to you. I'm sorry for that, but it isn't an example of feminism pushing toxic masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 02:02 PM
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I've never really had an issue with being vulnerable, mainly cus caring about being masculine seems dumb to me I think that's the wrong way to look at it. It isn't that men are doing things because they want to look manly but that society punishes men who do thing, so they stop doing them. A lot of men who end up in the manosphere weren't what we think of when we think of toxic (or even just traditional) masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:16 AM
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With examples this post will be bogged down in endless pedantry and nitpicking. And that would be obvious to anyone reading the post. As it is now, everyone is just like, "what are you talking about?" If you give examples and they defend it, they lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:11 AM
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Without examples this post won't go anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 06:21 PM
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Nobody has been able to prove that most men in the real world (not forums or comments pertaining to dating apps) are struggling to date because the majority of men are in relationships, It was men who have had relationships and then became single again that started the, "you don't want to be out here" saying. Achieving something doesn't mean you didn't have to struggle to do so. That's republican logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:01 PM
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You didn't make a mature post. You made one of the dozen, "I don't believe men when they express something is hard for them" posts. Next time make a post with the maturity and nuance you claim you want from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:02 PM
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I swear a lot of the people here are secret misogynists who pretend to be women just to make women look bad. At this point, that's the only explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:09 PM
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If there's anything that you want to talk about, feel free to DM me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:07 AM
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I guess I must not be a man then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:04 AM
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Did you consider women go into higher level education on a more frequent basis because they don’t have nearly as many opportunities as men do to earn a good living without school? This is bullshit. In this day and age you need an education if you don't want to put your body at risk. Even a lot of those jobs can be outsourced or replaced by automation. You're a guy, Just PearlyThings is a woman. No one cares if you're going to try to explain away the disadvantages a group faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:12 AM
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I think the whole league thing is stupid. Anyone from any group can be a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:18 PM
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you cannot be sexually attracted to someone without objectifying them. Who do you mean by "you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 08:16 PM
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I don't see what is so confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:02 PM
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no understanding that mediocre non-Chads can also be terrible. I pointed out that a hobosexual would be a bad choice but I guess I should have added, "regardless of attractiveness". It isn't "chad bad, non-chad good" but looking at people beyond that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:38 PM
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Preface: No one should be pressured into dating anyone they don't want to. With that said, I think most men equate "choosing better" and "giving a guy a chance" to mean looking at a guy's character instead of just looks or status. This doesn't mean giving a chance to a hobosexual, but it could mean giving a chance to the decent guy with a stable life and little experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:41 PM
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This just isn't true. Movember, men's sheds, My brother's keeper, were all those made by women? Men advocate for themselves and do it amidst pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:31 AM
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I personally don’t think men are cold approaching tons of women in massive numbers but perhaps I am wrong. I thought women were complaining about men doing it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:03 AM
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lvl 30 Wizards are the real chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:24 AM
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Because then they get accused of being deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:23 AM
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Random people never pester me Do you mean for sexual reasons or at all? I'm a guy and people bother me even when I have headphones in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:51 AM
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No. That's not me saying that there aren't upsides to being a male or men who benefit from male privilege, but it just hasn't been that for me. I often feel like I only get the downsides of being male. I often hear women say how many don't have to worry about their safety, but I've been the victim of violence throughout my life. Now, despite being a very peaceful and timid person, I'm often seen as a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:47 AM
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y fiance often explains to me how men size each other up when they meet. They decide in their head when they shake a strangers hand “Could I take this man on in a fight? Stay in touch with your family and keep some money for a hotel stay stashed away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 04:22 PM
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I always see on the internet how American women claim that men are taking advantage of “impoverished/uneducated” women who live in the third world. Ironically, these people who claim to be helping women in my country are actually insulting them by calling them uneducated, I find this funny as most speak a second language (which is more than a lot of these people can say), are professional, work in multinational corporations, etc. American man here, the women you mentioned aren't the women passpo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 05:45 PM
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It feels like a bag of sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 08:35 AM
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The manosphere is trash, but being trash has made people talk about men's issues. "Misandry not real" was the normal position a few years ago, now it's the extremist position a lot of people want to distance themselves from.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 06:07 AM
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The original mythopoetic men's movement wasn't misogynist. It's where feminist got the phrase, "toxic masculinity" from.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:19 AM
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You'll have to ask Any-Photo9699 but people of all genders have faced betrayal, ostracization, and other hardships while trying to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:17 AM
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Early men's movements were left leaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:28 AM
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Haven't there been multiple such movements?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:27 AM
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They didn't say anything about rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:19 AM
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To be clear, I'm saying that men should be careful about crossing women's boundaries. Ignoring them is what leads to women being assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:19 PM
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This sounds like it can get really dangerous really fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 11:22 AM
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Well, that's a distinction I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 08:34 PM
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Most men think Pearl is crazy. Maybe it's different for women, but a lot of men see women putting down their own gender as a red flag. Offline, most people understand all genders have their problems and shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:47 PM
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Not only are most men not redpill, I doubt a lot of the men online that identify as redpill act that way in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:29 AM
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I think there are some men who are either 1%ers or a lot closer to it than most men would be. On some level, they view most men as being as privileged as they are. So when they talk about themselves, a lot of things will make sense. When you apply it to the vast majority of men, it will sound stupid. It doesn't help that they're often praised for it until the wrong group of men call them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:28 AM
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Feminists generally believe that a woman should be altruistic ie serve others, I've met and seen feminists who believed some crazy stuff, but I never met a feminist who expected altruism from women and not everyone else. I think that's why PaddywackShaq didn't understand what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:17 AM
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You know "the left" and "liberals" are two different things, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:40 PM
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Just like the JustPearlyThings style pick mes are attractive to a certain type of pathetic man. I don't think I ever heard a man call pearl attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:47 PM
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It's not just sex. There was a woman who claimed she was hit by a brick when she refused to give a guy her phone number. She then went on to shame the black men behind her for not defending her. This led to many black women saying some very nasty things about black men. And it was bullshit. The police checked the footage and it turned out she was partying with the guy and attacked him with an object. He responded by hitting her while holding a water bottle. Still, men were defending her. I had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:45 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:39 PM
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You are not entitled to sex or anyone's feelings, but love is actually a psychological need. If you want to say coercing people into relationships is wrong, I think anyone sane will agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:18 PM
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Aren't the children of older couples more likely to be psychopaths? I saw it on Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, so it's probably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 09:38 PM
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As a man, I actually dislike pickmes. I don't throw that word around, but there are women like Just Pearly Things who say outrageous things for attention. So now when you try to talk about men's issues people picture some idiot saying divorce should be illegal. I wish people had the same bar because the gender discussions are mostly garbage right now with people trying to be more extreme than actually accomplish anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 06:32 PM
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No, it's not. You wouldn't be trying this hard to hand wave if it was. Telling men to be okay with being undesirable while not allowing them to see women the same way is hypocrisy. You can't gaslight men into not seeing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:58 PM
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There are multiple posts in this sub criticizing men for not going after single mothers. One of them is literally titled, "A real man wouldn't avoid single mothers when dating".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:46 PM
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Because posts like the OP are part of a weird cycle of messages men are given. If you tell men they should be fine being undesirable but aren't allowed to find any type of woman undesirable, then you're giving one set of standards for men and another for women. I know everyone here sees it because I've seen it. In one of those, "men are wrong for having this preference" posts I mentioned how people agreeing with it will turn around and post something like this. And here we are with people trying…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:59 PM
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Yes, and if those same people then turned around and told women to accept that they're not given a chance then you'd rightfully call out the hypocrisy. You're not even disagreeing, just yelling, "look over there."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:22 PM
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No, men are never criticized for not giving certain types of women a chance. That's a lie. I've seen it right here and my first thought was how people tell men to just be happy being undesirable or pretend that relationships aren't normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:18 PM
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No you dont understand the point that this is not gender specific. That actually wasn't the point of my question but okay. And men keep pushing against women's right for that, they say civilisation will fall, everyone will regret this, they want to take women's rights away. And I continually speak out against that. I'm pretty sure I have a post here saying how surprised I was that TRP was into that fall of civilization/birthrate business. So when someone tells you "men should learn to decentrali…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:59 AM
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I think you're not getting the point because you don't want to, but sure. Men are told they're wrong for not wanting to get involved with different types of women for different reasons. So when people like the OP make posts telling me they don't deserve relationships where are they when men are told they have to give women relationships? The message men get is that they should just be okay being "undesirable" but that no women should be made to feel that way. This is part of the reason for the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:41 AM
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I'm assume the question isn't being answered because we all know what the answer is. If that's the case, then can we just stop it with OPs like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:25 AM
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Anybody can reject anybody for any reason. Yes, I'm sure you believe that, but have you seen anyone criticize men for not giving a chance to different types of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:18 AM
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We men face so many real problems, I don't get why you would waste energy on something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:59 AM
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Can I ask you an honest question: Do you ever see men told that it's wrong for them to reject or rule out dating certain types of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:57 AM
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I've seen men say that it's easier for a woman who needs a place to stay to find a man who would take her in. I don't think I ever read anything about women who are in an abusive relationship asking a man to save her from that in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:14 AM
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Where did men tell you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:54 AM
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I think the person you're talking to isn't "getting it" on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:15 PM
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I’m saying in my experience most folks aren’t calling someone “a bad person” because they’re unattractive. I don't know if it's most folks, but it's a lot of folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 02:44 PM
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I think sometimes it's trauma. Lots of people run into the worst of the opposite sex and decide it's not worth it. MGTOWs use to be divorced men before everything became about incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:25 AM
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This already happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:52 PM
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I don't get what is being argued. Are you suggesting men go on dates and complain about how they don't get dates? Are they putting, "girls don't want to date me" on their tinder profile?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 02:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure I still disagree with part of what you're saying but I want to make the point of my post clear. There are men who force or exploit women who make OF content. They are exploiters and that is wrong. Men who simply view OF content are not predators for viewing that content. Even with all the problems, it's less exploitative than mainstream pornography. That's my full opinion on the matter. That, and Molly Moon has the best OF account.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 04:03 AM
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Women are "empowered" through prostitution/OF, but men who profit from it (e.g., OF pimps) are demonized as exploiters. How are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:36 PM
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Depends what 80%. "Honest" and "kind" mean more than "thiccer than a bowl of oatmeal".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:37 PM
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Does anyone else read a title to a post here and think they're going to upvote it but then read the post and just nope out?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:56 PM
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I don't purpose making a law against everything I think is shitty. Hopefully you feel the same. That said, I will say when I think something is shitty especially when it can do harm to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:52 PM
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If I told you an ice skater shouldn't grab onto other people when they're falling, what that be me controlling what others do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:51 PM
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MRAs (who were traditionally leftwing) The original Mythopoetic Men's Movement was leftwing, MRAs were not. It's the difference between the Atari that made the 2600 and the current company that owns the rights to the name.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:13 AM
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the men's rights movement was on the verge of becoming mainstream 10-15 years ago. And they weren't acting in good faith. 90% of their actions were just trolling feminists. EDIT: I'm specifically talking about the Paul Elam, MRA type men's activists and not all men's movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 04:06 AM
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I didn't purpose making a law, but I will say what king of situations unhealthy for people. Are you going to "forbid" me from doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:38 AM
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How is someone supposed to "mature" and "become well-adjusted" without acquiring life experience? And how is someone supposed to aquire life experience (in romance) without dating someone who is at a similar level of experience? It's not always a lack of experience that causes immaturity but the unwillingness to introspect and improve. That's why the older person doesn't mature with the younger person but stays the same while the younger person matures past them. If you're emotionally stunted th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:37 AM
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t's apparently forbidden for an immature 35yo man to date a 25yo woman girl I'm pretty sure many people who got into a relationship with a stunted person wishes it were forbidden. They don't know any better at first but they mature while the older partner doesn't. So they end up wasting five or ten years on someone who doesn't want to work on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:55 PM
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He's not suppose to be dating until he works on himself. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:38 PM
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Instead of working on being well adjusted they're going for women who don't know any better which will lead to women maturing past them and finding themselves in an unequal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:30 PM
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A 35 year old who even wants to seriously date a 25 year old (not just have fun) can be quite immature or stunted herself/himself in some ways. That's part of the problem. You get that emotionally stunted men getting with young women is part of the problem, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:47 PM
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How the hell did we get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:18 AM
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Scenario #1: 25M dating a 21F. How do people react to this type of relationship? They don't. Do you really think age gaps are just when the man is older?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:39 PM
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I think the latter causes the former. A lot of men may have tried to open up and got punished for it or told that their problems weren't real. Some families don't believe in things like mental health so you're bad for bringing up your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:32 PM
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And that's bad, right? It's still bad when the OP does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:16 AM
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Is porn really that deep? Nope. Why can’t men differentiate their feelings with porn like how they would do with violent and horror movies? We do. Most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:58 AM
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People want to see boobs while supporting the people showing the boobs. It's not complicated. Everyone has watched porn so the idea that we judge the people who actually pay for it is wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:50 AM
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What kind of white nonsense is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:44 AM
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Then why don't women admit that they have privileges over men? Online women don't but most women in real life are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:13 PM
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i’ve always felt it was a shame that we didn’t choose a different word to label this concept with. We can say that about so much wording. I remember trying to convince someone they were being a "useful idiot" and he thought I was just insulting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:12 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:02 PM
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I'm not surprised by the bi and homophobia in the comments, just surprised people aren't even trying to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:14 AM
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I'm not sure how many men here are struggling or just using the voice of men who are hiding behind a facade of sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:49 AM
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Are people really going around submitting to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 10:33 PM
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Onlyfans is pro feminist because it gives creative and financial control to women. I wish that was true, but there are some women being trafficked via Onlyfans. There are some men forcing or coercing multiple women to make accounts. I support sex work, but you have to do due diligence to make sure you're not supporting someone's abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:09 AM
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Then why not find a sex-worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:25 AM
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Everyone else would help a wheelchaired person unto a bus. Everyone else also cares about our climate, political tensions, their closest relatives, overall suffering, tries their best. That's not true. We wouldn't have the president we have, we wouldn't have videos of Karens, we wouldn't have so many of the problems if all (or even most) of us were good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 02:36 AM
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The so called loneliness epidemic would suggest they do. I hate AI but I just needed the sub to see what you would get if you just googled "male loneliness epidemic". The term "male loneliness epidemic" refers to the increasing prevalence of loneliness and social isolation among men, particularly in recent years. While loneliness affects both men and women, some research suggests that men are disproportionately impacted, facing unique challenges in building and maintaining meaningful social conn…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:35 AM
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Oh look, another post showing that men are the ones who don’t care about men’s mental health. Did they mention their gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:39 AM
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If it's your wife or long term girlfriend, you basically saying they might be cheating. I'm not against DNA tests, but let's not pretend we don't know why some women would be offended by the ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:54 AM
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Everyday is a school day. No wonder young people are screwed up when we judge them over every single thing. My teen years were hard but I would have self deleted if I grew up today.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:35 PM
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On one hand, there are definitely people here pushing the entitlement you're talking about. I have a feeling more than a few of them are, I don't know, "gender agitators" trying to push men to the right. That said, we are giving young men conflicting messages. We tell them being a good person has nothing to do with romance, but assume they're a bad person if can't receive romance. We tell them they have no right to complain about women's preferences but judge them for not wanting to date single …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:14 PM
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There is a difference between a voluntary virgin and that from nonvoluntary or incel. Separating virgins into just voluntary and involuntary is a shit idea. You can want to have sex, be able to, and still not be a shit person. Anyone who says different might as well become a recruiter for tTRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:28 AM
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Anyone who gets that weird about OF women (many of which are regular pornstars) would be the same with women on Twitch, Youtube, or just waitresses who call them hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:20 AM
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No Yes Depends No Yes Yes Depends No Yes. Yes Yes Yes Yes Depends. No. Depends Yes. No Depends Yes Yes Yes. No Depends. Depends Depends Yes No. Yes. Depends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:13 AM
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Yes. Depends. No No Yes Yes No Depends No Yes. Depends Depends Yes Yes Yes Depends Yes No Yes No No Yes Yes No. No
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:05 AM
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The topic is monogamy, and most of them men the societies that practice it are happy. It wouldn't last otherwise. In any case, it clearly shows there is more than one sexual pairing that works depending on how the OP defines working.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:16 AM
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Yes. There are societies where brothers will share a wife, and everyone is happy with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:26 PM
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There is a long history of polygamy in multiple societies. This includes various gender pairings with everyone being happy. What is your argument for monogamy being the only logical pairing? How are you even measuring that?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:45 PM
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Never. I may look at a woman and see her as attractive, but I don't just get hard over that. I did a lot of figure drawing so even just seeing a naked woman doesn't do much if the context isn't right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:13 PM
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The reason why I am asking this question is because I want to know what exactly do men want from relationships. I believe a lot of men like the idea of "femininity" in women, but not the real, unfiltered baggage that comes along with femininity. Tell me if I'm wrong here. Women say they love masculinity but not toxic masculinity, it's not that different for men. And no, I wouldn't change any of my innate traits because I've grown up the underdog and learn what's good and bad about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:44 AM
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Which got me to thinking... Pilled men often claim their vulnerability isn't received well. But if women generally don't like it, why would we tell the world it's an attractive trait? Hell if we know. We can only give you our lived experiences. If I had to guess, some just don't know what they're saying. I remember when Christian apologists claimed the Nazis were really atheists, now they're the ones pushing fascism but it's different this time for... reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 12:02 AM
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I don't get this sub. One day, it's understood that good women can be victims of bad men; the next day, it's thought that women with bad men are just as bad as the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:37 AM
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I can't tell if you're reaching or just trying to sneak in an equivocation fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 06:32 AM
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So you're saying it's men's fault for not being patriarchal monsters? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 12:44 AM
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But those types of women, you probably wouldn't actually want to date anyway. They are probably mentally unstable or had bad childhoods. Most incels don't strike me as having healthy childhoods either. They probably think they can fix her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:14 PM
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Young men swung to Trump for the same reason old men or old women did, because they're stupid or racist or both. Not getting laid may make you bitter, but it doesn't make you fascist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 06:12 PM
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The modern view of toxic masculinity is inconsistent if not totally incoherent, so you'll see a lot of that. Originally, toxic masculinity wasn't something men do so much as something done to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:05 AM
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But they literally did. Most voted for Harris and even if all of them did it wouldn't be enough to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 12:31 AM
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Didn't most black men vote for Harris?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:44 PM
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I couldn't care less about number counts. As long as the isn't going up while they're in a relationship with me, what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:50 AM
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Case in point, the recent US election which swung in favour o trump because many men were disenfranchised by the left. Nah. Trump won because people keep giving in to the dumbest among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:55 AM
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Does anyone know when we got rid of those? There use to be dance halls where men and women would get together and find someone to dance with. They seemed to be replaced by clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:37 PM
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Why does there have to be one root cause? Our world is continually changing in a lot of ways, there's no reason to assume only one of them causes male loneliness. I can't help thinking people want to narrow it down so they can find a way to victim blame men. But then, there is always a number of men who respond to say that the problem is not that these men are involuntarily celibate, but rather, they are lacking close relationships with loved ones, something that sex cannot fix. At this time, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:41 AM
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I agree with you, but then we also had a post where a poster said they could see the misogyny in the eyes of some guys dating profile. Mixed messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:03 PM
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For no positive reason. Not those kind of stares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:36 AM
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Weird that you posted this because I've had women do this to me all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:43 PM
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No, and that was my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:03 PM
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I know, but just pleading not-guilty means the defendant is claiming she's not telling the truth unless they claimed they were temporarily insane or something (assuming you can even do that in a rape case).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:38 PM
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So you don't know guys you can see through but other people can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:03 AM
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Here's what the title should be: "Would you date a girl who said she was raped but her rapist was found not-guilty?" The outcome of the court case would make the defendant accusing her of lying redundant. I'm pretty sure this is actually a common accurance if you don't word it as a gotcha. Yes, men date women who were raped by someone who didn't plead guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:55 AM
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Having relationships in modern society should not be seen as typical anymore. But it literally is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:32 PM
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All through this sub the response to young men who are insecure about something is that "women don't owe you love". With that in mind, does it matter why men don't want to date any kind of women? This is one of those things that make men feel like they're being held to a different standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:29 PM
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What the fresh hell is this? Are we acting like this wasn't called street harassment a decade ago? Now, a lot of us are on our phones, not even noticing what's around us until we walk into the wrong neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:31 PM
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I'm not sure what you're asking. You acknowledge that society ignores men's needs, but I guess you're pretending that men aren't doing anything to fix it. Iron John was published decades ago, and the mythopoetic men's movement was laughed at. You also seem to suggest men's problems are just men's problems, even when it's people acting on behalf of women getting in the way of solutions. That alone is a shitty outlook, but ignores what men are being told today. A woman is attacked? Men are wrong f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:17 PM
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Okay, downvoters, how many of you actually work closely with the courts on this stuff? Because I do More like many of us know or are the men who have witnessed the unfairness. Every cop thinks racism in law enforcement is overblown even when their bodycams show that they are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:01 PM
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If you're a man and you post a question for men, shouldn't it be, "why do we...?"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:29 AM
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I'm glad I avoid AI because I had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:14 AM
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I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:13 AM
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Negative experiences lead young men to the manosphere and the manosphere targets young men with negative experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:27 PM
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Can we say this: Women don't owe sex or relationships to men they find undesirable anymore than men owe sex or relationships to women they find undesirable. But anyone is allowed to pursue a relationship and entitled to feel bad if they fail to find one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:21 PM
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So people really think of others as in their league or not? I just initially think of women as attractive or not and then cool or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:16 AM
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but most men aren't doomed to a life of not knowing romantic enjoyment. The Redpill targets the men who are. That's the whole point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:14 AM
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It hasn't even been two days since your last, "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" post. A weird need to be sympathised with Yeah, that common human need sure is weird. Maybe just admit that some men do try to improve their life but face setbacks, abuse, and people who see their struggling as a character flaw. What exactly do you think victim blaming with do? Sell some Ayn Rand books?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:37 PM
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What position am I "pushing" exactly? No idea, that's why this all seems weird to me. When you hear a story from a woman about how her husband is a great guy but is abusive in some way, you point out to her that the abuse means he's not a great guy. Same concept here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:31 PM
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Miscommunication, but not disrespect. Simply being intellectually dishonest isn't going to help whatever position you're trying to push here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:55 PM
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Often like your post said, no. There can be miscommunications, but that wasn't what your post was about and if it happens often then it probably isn't a miscommunication.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:33 PM
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If he finds himself feeling disrespected often then he should leave. How often do you hear from women or tell them yourself, "if he loved you he'd make time for you," or, "If he loved you he'd be willing to do X for you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:29 PM
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A woman who loves you deeply with passion and a strong emotional connection? But she is often disrespectful towards you. That's not a thing. If a woman doesn't respect you then she doesn't love you. At most, you fulfill a few of her needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:54 AM
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I would look into Men Sheds. I think they were originally started in Australia but they also exists in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:03 AM
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They can't decide if they're modern or traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:42 AM
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Then there are women who live in ghettos and trailer parks who have kids with multiple men that don't take care of them. These women are to be avoided at all cost for obvious reasons. Maybe their stories fit the manosphere narrative. I don't know but they have so little to do with normal people that they should not be shaping anyone's view of women. Why is the method for fighting sexism always embracing some other "ism"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:06 AM
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If it means anything, I don't want to talk about big dicks with anyone anywhere at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 06:11 PM
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You don't want baggage Without lifetime guarantees You don't want to watch me die I just came to say goodbye love Goodbye love, came to say goodbye love Goodbye
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:21 AM
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We should also have a discussion on why these men still want to have sex with someone they now know for a fact doesn't want to have sex with them. It's not just wanting to have sex with them but wanting to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:27 AM
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Getting "put in the friendzone" is when you tell a girl how you feel and she says she just sees you as a friend or brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:26 AM
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It’s not like it’s been one of the foundational building blocks of our society since the dawn of civilization. It hasn't been. Anyone who looked into gender in Sumerian civilization knows that. This is why debating is useless, half of the debate will just be educating people on things they have strong opinions on. It's like playing chess with pigeons.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:52 PM
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E.g. jk Rowling, old school liberals would have attacked her ideas, but would never have thought of cancelling her or silencing her. They literally haven't silenced her. She's free to say whatever she wants and not one liberal or leftist will deport her. liberals just painted her as transphobe She is. There is no debate when she made various comments attacking trans people (or just non-white women who are strong) or any responsibility to debate her at all. Thing is, no one really liked feminists…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:49 PM
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I disagreed with your notion that most of the men having problems don't believe women are people or that women owe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 07:42 PM
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That's either cope or trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:58 AM
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I was with you initially, and then you just drove off a cliff. I think they feel like they're entitled to have women date them just 'cause they're nice. They don't realize that women are people with their own sexual feelings and like attractive men just like men like attractive women. They think women exist just to serve them. They were taught this idea of women being innocent, nice, and sexless (probably by their moms/sisters or society) ... or they're just heterosexual and were told being nice…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:45 AM
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I looked this up, and it appears to be one of those cheap ren'py games with Daz3d models. I'm not sure how this uproar happened. It isn't really different from bodice rippers or what you'd see on the hub's front page.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:33 AM
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Some men (especially of the manosphere variety) will tell you that men are simple creatures, they just want a chick who is hot and submissive and not a single mom. No, men are complex just like women I don't think the men who say things like that see women as "complex" so much as "complicated".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:05 PM
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I use to think a lot of the red pill posts here were young men sucked in by the alt right pipeline, now I'm sure they are the alt right pipeline looking for young men to suck in. Hats off for anyone who could read past the OP's first line.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:03 PM
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I see. Then you are not the demographic to which this question is posed. I think he's the closest you'll find to the demographic you were thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:15 AM
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Isn't girl's girl a version of guy's guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:45 PM
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While I could see why someone would be against affirmative action even though I support it, it wasn't just that. It was the civil rights movement in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:52 PM
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Another win for Linux.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:05 PM
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I'm okay with it if it's adult men who agreed to be sexualized. I can see someone as sexual without denying their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:36 PM
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not true, the right just pushed back against the left rethoric of "gender is a social construct" or DEI and affirmative action, The fight against LGBT people started way before the modern concept of gender but you do know there is a difference between gender and sex. You know, the reason we have two different words. And I don't think admitting the right pushed back against diversity makes me reconsider my comment. You should save all this for a Jubilee debate against Sam Seder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:03 PM
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We could close the thread right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:53 AM
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I think I have it harder for me in terms of my safety over the average man, not because of looks. Yes. And that would have been what the OP was about if it wasn't just bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:11 AM
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We can't always blame them for not calling out the toxicity because they aren't always the target and so may not always see it. I do get concerned when they support toxic people. I had to unfollow a few popular influencers after they defended someone who made an accusation that was proved false and then went on the run to escape fraud charges. I listened to some of the smartest people pretend they didn't know how anything worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:40 AM
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The right has been running on an anti-POC and anti-LGBT platform for decades and are now trying to turn the US into a Christian Nationalist nation. I think they might an a problem with identity politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:42 AM
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but even in this one it got something right: it started with a girl doing something mean to the boy. Is that really what usually drives boys to the red pill? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but just judging by some posts here it seems like some are drawn to it by their lack of success with women. We can't say a woman is mean to someone by simply not being attracted to them, right? But ignoring all that, a reason is not a justification. If I tell you there are logical factors behind gang violen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:31 AM
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I wouldn't consider it cheating, but a reason to change and put in more effort. This is a use of AI I'm okay with, but I'd want my S.O. to get those needs from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:20 AM
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There's just a pattern of men going after women they can mold or manipulate. Younger women, mail order brides, passport bros, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:07 PM
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Any content designed to primarily emphasise sexual attractiveness and elicit a sexual attraction response from the audience it's aimed and at and that is lacking substance aside from that is softcore porn. She twerks for a few seconds near the start of the videos. That ain't softcore porn. Most of the reaction videos to her content were couples joking about it. It was the, "pretending I'm watching cooking with Kya to see how my wife reacts" vids and others like that. It's really not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 11:02 PM
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Can you give an example of when this comment would come up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:27 AM
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And that’s kinda at the heart of it. I very much dislike the whole “treat women with respect, and then they will date you” approach - while I get the motive behind it and even agree with the motive. It is ineffective, because now you have many men who do dehumanize women acting like they respect women, or trying to with the promise of dating one later. Obviously, this always backfires. The problem seems so obvious that I'm sure I've seen women speak out against this very line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:31 AM
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I'm a fan of Jules (the woman in the video) so I feel the need to defend her by saying her videos are ads for her OF. With that said, I wouldn't care if someone dressed like that in the workplace. My mind can block out thoughts I may or may not have outside a work context. Not that any thoughts are the responsibility of anyone else but myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:57 PM
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What mental gymnastics? You said terms like "cisgender" are slurs, I asked you how and what kind of term you'd suggest, you went on a long-ass tangent ignoring why the term exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:56 AM
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I was just listening to some reddit stories (yeah, weird to hear here) and I think the women are wonderful effect is just like guys who have good parents. They hear about someone who is no contact with their mother and think, "mothers are good, there must be something wrong with my girlfriend."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:25 AM
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So as a women, if you decide to be in a long term relationship with a man there will come the days where he's looking at your daughters friends in the pool a bit too long, or you find barely legal porn on his phone, or he keeps checking out the young waitress. And its hard to not compare right? Because you dont look like those young women, far from it. Even if you birth his kids you will become less attractive to him even if he never admits it. Male or female, I feel sorry for anyone who thinks …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 06:05 PM
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So you don't want trans or non-binary people mentioned and you're offended by a world that takes them into consideration. That just sounds like bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:27 PM
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The loneliness epidemic is a culmination of men who’ve given up on dating due to women not reciprocating any effort It's literally not. It's a real thing with a real description.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 10:03 AM
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The scriptures can say two contradicting things if looked at by people with two different points of view. It's the same way a lot of feminists can indulge in the same behavior they speak against.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 10:12 PM
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Sorry, but it's absolutely true. I say that having been both in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:33 PM
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But try telling this to feminists and progressives, and you'll get laughed out the room. Robert Bly was one of the men who started the Mythopoetic Men's Movement and he was anti-war and anti-capitalist. Feminists are like Christians. There's a lot of Christians who are kind and loving and then there's the type obsessed with hating trans people, immigrants, vegans, and anyone different.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:02 AM
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They always used as a slur or to intend insult. What? How? Would terms would you suggest?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:54 AM
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It's not. If it was then the targets would be the 1%ers or the most privileged. Usually, the victims are the easy targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:17 AM
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I would be out of there so fast. It's often the people who fetishize you who respect you the least. There was an influencer who had a fetish for black men but physically abused her black boyfriend and eventually killed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:36 AM
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I don't think the issue is payback. Men are expected to provide, protect, build, do a lot of things that are good and beneficial to society as a whole. So a lot of people want men to fulfill their traditional roles but without the sexism that was used to pay for it. Basically, a lot of people want the patriarchy without the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:50 AM
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I kindly ask men to stop piggybacking on things other men did. "Men built civilisation, men invented everything" etc. Cool. I don't want my fingerprints anywhere near this dumpster fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure a lot of this comes up when two people aren't in exclusive relationships anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:42 AM
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Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:42 PM
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What happened to craigslist? People were hooking up there with strangers all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:40 PM
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We're all whores under capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:28 AM
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Why is it a given that men would do sex work if they could? I wouldn’t. Shit, I would. The girls are making bank.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:59 AM
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I wish we could all agree there is nothing wrong with any man wanting to be in a romantic relationship regardless of their looks, but we shouldn't see men unable to be in a romantic relationship as bad. This seems like a "no duh" comment to me, but in this sub who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:58 AM
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Two separate issues. Sex workers deserve respect just like anyone else. The worst part of the disrespect they receive is that it comes from men who partake in sex work. They watch porn, go to strip clubs, pretended Ice Spice was good, everything. I'm completely with you on not judging women for being sex workers. I would be willing to date an onlyfans model IRL. As long as she didn’t fuck others and did solo stuff. That's your comfort level and there's nothing wrong with it. I'd probably say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:33 AM
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Is this one of those posts where people are disagreeing with how something was said instead of what was said? Every other post here is about how men should be solving men's problems so a post pointing out the problems with fatherless men should be the highest voted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:44 AM
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Men can balance out the dating market, making dating easier ??? Men can pursue relationships out of interest rather than desperation I think the men we're talking about start out trying the former and end up doing the latter. Men can be purposeful in their lives This I greatly agree with, but we can't just ask men to do this themselves. Older men need to step up and start helping and initiating men instead of just handing them Peter Pan advice and tapping themselves on the shoulder. There are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 02:53 AM
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It adopts a bewildering belligerent stance. I’m sorry to say this, but you have to make the case to men why they should support all women. Real, material benefits. Not just because it’s the “right thing to do”. You cannot berate and chastise 50% of the population all waking hours of the day and expect most of them to support you unless they have a degrading kink, or they materially benefit from your aims. Anything other than “you’re a misogynist if you don’t” would be a good start. You don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:29 PM
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I think so. I've been attracted to transwomen and like to think I'd date one... but I haven't yet. I've heard stories of men acting open about dating transwomen but then backing out because they realize they're not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:18 AM
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Ironically fitting
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:25 AM
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You seem like you're in a dark place. I don't say that because you're not calling yourself feminist, I don't call myself feminist, but I do care about issues affecting women. I care about the disabled, the non-straight, non-cis, non-sexual, everyone. This isn't because I think it will get me anything. There are plenty of times when I feel unwelcome in this world and I'm guessing you feel that way too sometimes. That's okay. Feel your pain, but ignoring the pain of everyone else won't help you. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:48 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree that a woman is allowed get trumpers out their dating pool, but didn't most white women also [vote] against their interest? In fact, people are continually realizing voting for Trump screwed them over. And why was any woman against Trump dating chuds in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 08:51 PM
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So what's your take on Submissive men The same as dominant or switch men. why it's still so looked down on Society wants men to be strong and they see submissiveness as weak. And that's society as a whole, including a lot of people who think they believe otherwise. how one might improve their search for one? I always thought there were special only spaces for this. Maybe go around asking guys what they think of April Olsen and move on if they say, "who?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:20 PM
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for your average person, a woman’s advantage in finding a relationship is far more impactful on their life than the man’s ability to have a higher paying career at the top level. Are you sure? I'm not downplaying the desire to be in a relationship, I think all tiers of the hierarchy of needs are important. That said, there's a reason physical and safety needs come before relationships. If you have a good job and are secure then you have access to better relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 06:24 AM
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Passport Bros are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:31 PM
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I actually know men who would have sex with horrible women but wouldn't "date" them. The result is just as disastrous, but the men don't set out to form real relationships or anything. I also see men get angry at other men who do ignore redflags, do the pickme dance, etc. All of reddit wants the world to drop anyone at the sight of any disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:23 AM
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WTF? Why are so many posts here show little they looked into something. Do research, back you ideas up with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 05:17 AM
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Feminists have at times. I bring this up a lot, but it was the turning point in how I see advocacy: Barack Obama started a program to tackle the problems faced by inner city black men and it was attacked by feminists for focusing on black men. Said feminists were prominent ones like Kimberlé Crenshaw who coined the term, "intersectionality." Honestly, many feminists don't really see the need for male advocacy outside of men helping women. We even see that in this very sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:38 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:45 AM
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Why would feminism (an ideology focused on the rights of women) tackle these? Not that I disagree with you, but you do realize that a lot of young men are told directly that they should become feminists to tackle those issues. The implication is that feminism tackles those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 05:14 AM
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Not a piller at all, but bringing back mentorship would be a great start. Current society lacks what Robert Bly calls "initiators", older men who would take younger men through adulthood. Now we have men going to the internet for answers and every group on the internet is the worst version of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:40 PM
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I think if men stop caring about validation and approval. There wouldn't be a lonely epidemic? Can you please google shit before speaking on it. The male loneliness epidemic isn't just men not getting as much dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:35 PM
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I don't get fighting for large age gaps, regardless of gender. It reeks of, "I know everyone on my level will see through my shit".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:37 AM
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Women have been saying this over and over, but I get the sense that men don't believe it for me some reason. The video starts by saying, "we need to teach men and women..." Men have lived experiences the way women have lived experiences. A lot of us can't be vulnerable because life taught that having problems is seen as a character flaw. This sub has constant posts telling men that their problems mean they're a bad person or aren't real. We've been through a lot of that in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:45 AM
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I feel like an asshole saying this; but that's pretty much all we hear about men. Man or bear, Schrodinger's rapist, most conversations about men are about how you're scared of us or how much we suck. I think a lot of men here know what it's like to hope that woman in front of you doesn't make the same turn you have to make so you don't look like your following her, looking everywhere but in front when you're walking up stairs, etc. We also have to watch as it's used to justify classism or racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:15 PM
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Okay, but if the purpose of this post was to communicate an idea then shouldn't you take a look at how you frame your ideas so that you don't alienate people who would otherwise disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:32 AM
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I want men to recognize the risk they place themselves in and push back on naratives that make us feel like what we do is expected or easy I'd agree with that, but that isn't what comes across in your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:29 AM
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We are told it is a tragedy that women dont have the freedom to roam like stray dogs in the streets at night like we can ( you cant either, you would get killed or mugged, we are simply socialized to accept risk as a part of our life and not some trauma inducing event taht it should be seen as). Here's the issue with your thinking: Everyone should have the right to walk around at night without being killed or mugged. Simply stopping at "it happens to men to" tells people you don't really care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:32 AM
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It is not "women" or progressives who are perpetuating unreasonable standards of masculinity. It's the media, influencers and men themselves. Even in this sub there are progressives and women who promote the same standards and go further. We've all seen the posts telling men that all their problems are their fault so they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Hell, remember the "real men don't refuse to date single moms" thread. And that media, they're plenty progressive when it comes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:18 PM
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Calm down. I believe in applying the values you expect others to have to yourself. When women downplay circumcision or talk down to a guy who doesn't want a vasectomy then I would call that out. We're discussing abortion, a procedure I will never have, so I'm holding myself to my own standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:00 PM
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That depends on the situation of the woman involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:26 AM
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Guy here so feel free to ignore the following: I think there are many cases where termination is the more compassionate choice for both mother and fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:42 AM
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men can be good people, but we seem to really not give a crap about silencing the bad ones who take up a bulk of the male community's output speaking over a silent majority (though even amongst this silent majority, it seems we hold ourselves to low degree of moral expectation, and decency) If in this place, where men jump over each other to prove the "women are wonderful effect" true, maybe the issue isn't really men's standard of decency but their standard of effectiveness. The first step shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:38 AM
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Most men in general act like rape is just an unfixable truth in this world, I don't want to be that guy, but where are you getting information that men have this viewpoint more than women? Many women have been victim blamed by their own mothers or women they believed to be their friends. When you meet a man who blames the victim, do they really come from a background where most of the women think different?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:30 AM
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radical feminists are literally a minority of women As are the redpillers who act like rape is natural [a minority of men]. Why do you treat one group like they speak for an entire gender but not the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:46 AM
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So we moved on from whether I denied things the OP said, cool. I'm more than willing to admit that slut shaming posts here are mostly by men, but those men do not reflect the majority of men offline any more than the "men don't have any real problems" post here reflect the real feelings of most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:24 AM
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I outright disagreed with their depictions of patriarchy and slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:08 AM
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Everyone can agree that women have the right to No we can't, especially right now. There are people now in powerful positions who want to take us back to the past. If a Video Game depicts Sexualized Women then it is their right to depict those women in that manner. Feminists do not have the right to demand the Games change to stop "muh sexualization" or "muh misogyny" because it is the Games (and Gamers) right to depict women that way. If you don't like it simply don't consume the media. The Sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:04 AM
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No other sex hates men more than men. Doubtful. Men are the biggest bullies of other boys. Men are the biggest perpetrators of male murders. Women are the biggest slut shamers. Most of the people pushing gender roles on their children are mothers. Men are the ones who have created an oppressive hierarchy amongst each other. If we're talking about the same hierarchy, then women have always been part of that. Men didn't have a meeting to sit down and oppress women, nor were women kidnapped from Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:51 AM
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People want to be wanted. In CNC, the man wants the woman and forgoes consent. Men also want to be wanted, to have women want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:30 AM
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I'd go for the 90's. After women's lib but before internet brainrot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:51 AM
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This sounds like trading one backwards thinking for another. A lot of male anger is a result of trauma, not the need to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:49 AM
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A disproportionate focus on false accusations over real cases of assault creates a misleading narrative. Be honest, you think any focus is disproportionate. We often hear people talk about how women are scared of strange men when they're out at 2am, but a woman is far more likely to be attacked by an acquaintance. I have a feeling you would never tell anyone how wrong they would be for that concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:53 AM
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Variations of this claim include but are not limited to: If men ... were more involved parents [just like women are], they would win custody more often; This is the kind of advice women complain about getting from men. It's shallow and really reveals what people don't think about. You can want to be involved with your kid but weren't married to their mother. You can want to be more involved with your kid but took up more hours at work to pay for childcare which is what led to your wife divorcing…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:41 PM
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I feel like you’re talking about 2 different men but claiming they’re the same. Happens all the time here, to both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:19 AM
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I think you're well aware that there are a lot of toxic men who come from good backgrounds and had a lot of their needs met. There are also a lot of "outsiders" (best word off the top of my head) who are outsiders because they come from bad backgrounds and didn't get a lot of their needs met.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:17 AM
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Conversely, if hormone therapy erases those advantages, then much of the feminist argument about male physical dominance loses its foundation. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:17 PM
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The world would be a better place if males adopted the woman's way of dealing with problems. This isn't an attack, just an observation I'd like you and others to think about. You call for men to adapt to how women handle problems for the sake of women. This is just one side of the equation. Will men be able to vent their feelings to women in the same way? Women complain about that. Will you call on women to adapt to how men handle problems and provide them with solutions? That would lead to accu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:09 AM
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That's plus size model range. They don't have a problem getting male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:37 AM
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"Debate"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:36 AM
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Any man who purposely targets women who have less resources from countries with less resources is a scumbag. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:02 AM
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I'm a guy and I loathe it because it's taking advantage of women in desperate situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:25 AM
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Or maybe they think it's harmful and wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:03 PM
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Toxic Masculinity isn't a way of saying masculinity is toxic. It refers to a false masculinity that men are pressured to perform. The originators of the term came from the Mythopoetic Men's Movement, which saw this pressure coming from society at large and not just men. So no, I don't think your post is a No True Scotsman so much as not understanding the term. I suggest everyone look into the Mythopoetic Men's Movement. Even if you come away disagreeing with it, there are ideas there worth exami…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 02:25 AM
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When you say fat, you mean "my 600lb life" fat, right? Otherwise, they're doing a lot better than awkward men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:06 AM
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I never heard that outside of this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:08 PM
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Hold up, you don't think there are good women with bad men? Isn't this victim blaming? The horse shoe is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:08 PM
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I couldn't care less as long she's not wearing nipple pasties around a school or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:48 AM
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Both the red and blue pills mock the just be yourself advice as something that is incorrect and should not be followed. I think it's more that it isn't advice. It's up there with telling a depressed person, "it's all in your head."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:46 AM
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cheating is a failure of character for the cheater. Having engaged in infidelity at all is a mark of low character. Yes. The last thing we need is more people asking what they did wrong when assholes are being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:45 PM
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Honestly, I think I would be a bluepiller if it wasn't for this obsession with blaming men for their problems and pretending that they're all causing it themselves or not doing anything about it. At this point, it seems like this is a weekly thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:42 PM
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This is all true for toxic femininity as well. It wouldn't be true for toxic masculinity and toxic feminity isn't a defined phrase. You'll have to show how.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:29 AM
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Toxic masculinity is society coercing men into specific roles. While I agree part of that is trauma, not all trauma a man faces is toxic masculinity. People pleasing is faking kindness, it's putting the needs of other over your own. It's a response to abuse or neglect, usually from childhood. It manifests in both men and women. You might have chose the wrong word accidentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:38 PM
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Nah, people pleasing is a result of trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:13 PM
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And I doubt they believe in unconditional love, conflating it with “Im so desperate for pussy, that I’ll take any woman”. This is definitely another reason so many guys are ‘lonely’. Having these high expectations on love will do them no good. ???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:01 AM
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I have been told by many men on this sub that “lonely” only means “romantically lonely” for men Those men are wrong. In order to respect women and the few men who actually want friends and community instead of a partner, we should say there is a “male romanceless epidemic”, and men should say they are “romanceless” God no. The thing I hate the most about the Redpill and a lot of the monosphere is that it convinced a lot of people that the only problems men have are dating related.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:59 PM
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But also, I could see the festering anger in his eyes. No you can't. I say that as someone who doesn't steal and gets followed in every store, my own mama can't read my emotions. Some people can't be read, especially the most dangerous predators who fool people all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:59 PM
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Conversely, if hormone therapy erases those advantages, then much of the feminist argument about male physical dominance loses its foundation. How?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:52 PM
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So let me reset. Do you understand that whatever circumstances you have that allowed you and your husband to have a support network may not be shared by men who feel isolated and/or ostracized? On top of that, your post feels like the, "that's never been a problem for me" comments pickme women or sellout minorities make. I'm not calling you either but saying that young men reading it aren't going to just say, "thanks, I'm cured," but write you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:56 PM
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But why question reasoning and opinions if you don't really care about the answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:44 PM
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Did you mean to post this from an account with a "Purple Pill Woman" flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:41 PM
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If you're just going to give non-answers then why do you feel the need to go into these conversations just to tell men, "this isn't a real problem"? You could have just not joined the conversation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:39 PM
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How would I know when I don't know the circumstances? Did you go up to the women of your neighborhood and ask to meet at homes and restaurants? Are you the same race, political aliment, and financial upbringing as the women in your neighborhood? Your husband has drinks with work friends. What about the odd guy out at work, is he invited? Can he invite himself? What about NEETs and LEETs? More importantly: when you speak about a problems any marginalized group makes and a conservative makes comme…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:57 PM
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Why do you interpret "men have this problem" as "it's women's fault men have this problem"? Is that why so many feel the need to write them off or give unhelpful fortune cookie advice? How are women stopping you from finding 10 other dudes and forming your own exclusive club? This is like me asking, "how are men stopping women from not buying jeans with small pockets to make clothing companies change". Except, you know, male loneliness is literally killing people and driving them into toxic spac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:47 AM
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This post is all over the place, but I think the gist is that you don't believe men care about male issues and that all male issues are just men doing things to themselves and should just use individualistic solutions. This is dishonest. Many people see men as privileged and women as not so advocating for men is seen as acting against women. I've mentioned this here at least twice now, but the first black president created a mentorship program to help with problems everyone agrees exists, and ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:50 AM
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What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:28 AM
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I know a lot of female friends who actually prefer virgin men(they are also virgin girls actually) I think that's the part you're missing. The older you get, the less you find people your age who are virgins and experienced people usually like sex with experienced people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 09:55 AM
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You can’t complain woman are avoiding men and choosing to stay single causing the male loneliness epidemic... That's very much not what the male loneliness epidemic is. And isn't this the same thinking as, "you can't get mad at men avoiding women in the workplace when one woman made a false accusation"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:31 PM
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Don't want to get pumped and dumped? Present yourself with a nice personality, don't deceive your date with fake looks and provide him with enough value so that he would be comfortable with commiting to you. And of course, take a shower and care with intimate hygiene, you just need to get a certain threshold of basic looks, the rest is all about how you are internally. Step up instead of crying to your friends on in the internet. So you think only smelly women get used for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:09 PM
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So you thought there was a male loneliness epidemic but there exists bad men so that makes it a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure a support system would have given you self esteem without all the toxicity. If you think we don't provide men with adequate support, I'm there with you. We should give men more support the same way we should help kids with a bad home life instead of suggesting gangs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:39 AM
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Are you scared of women having equality? Nope. Do you resent it? Nope. The 1950s pretend ideal seems pretty popular with lots of men, is that a time you wish you could go back to? I'm black. Would you be happy with women having less rights than men? Or even just ok with it? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 04:22 PM
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At the gym? Forget that. There are content creators who go out of their way to make men look like creeps for just glancing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:55 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:25 PM
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yeah, guys may see success through the more ruthless dating methods advised in RP, but most men are too emotionally sensitive to do it, so give up." I think "emotionally sensitive" is just another way of say, "doesn't want to be a monster." Nothing weak about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:16 AM
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"but what about the women who scam lonely old men and take their money via OnlyFans?" It's funny because in 2025, it has been shown multiple times that there's usually a man behind these scams. Even Andrew Tate who used to own a webcam model business has admitted that these are usually controlled by male pimps. I know there are a lot of redpillers, incels, and other men who hate the women they jerk off to on this sub but OF models are far from who I think of when I think of toxic women. I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:34 PM
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Yeah, you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:33 PM
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Yet, I have never seen a gangster, mafioso, greedy CEO, corrupted politician, or bloody dictator who would have difficulty finding women to share the spoils with. Would you really want to be with any of those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:48 AM
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Most of the post is all over the place, but I think I'll just address the TLDR. I feel like this subreddit wont admit that some men just suck, even if its a large enough portion of men to cause an ‘epidemic’ of them being seen as undesirable to most women. There are people from every gender, gender identity, race, religion, lack of religion, and pizza topping preference suck. If the issue is the reaction of some takes here, that is more of the lack of nuance that feels like an attempt to victim …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:15 AM
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I agree that friendships are important but after seeing some comments around this sub I feel I have to remind people that most men aren't redpillers. The people going around saying that men don't need friends aren't the same ones suffering from the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:32 PM
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So you asked with the intention of dismissing any answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:28 PM
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IDK why you wanna pretend the red pill types aren't common here. Sure they are, as well as people who disagree with them and people who disagree with both extremes. Its not a societal problem if women agree that a large minority of men are unbearable assholes who cause their own loneliness. Actually, that's not how it works at all. Whats not simple about it just being that guys aren't valuing social bonds? Women don't often negotiate for advancement in the workplace. Would simplifying that to, "…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:14 AM
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So? You guys seem quite intolerant of the idea men should take responsibility for themselves. It's a debate sub, who are "you guys"? Everyone who disagrees with your take? Expecting personal responsibility from men is shallow? No, the oversimplification of a problem and giving individualistic advice for societal problems is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:52 AM
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Vulnerability is by definition the lack of strength. Or the quality or state of being exposed to the possibility of being attacked or harmed, either physically or emotionally. I think a lot of what you wrote comes from this misunderstanding or what you think other people are advocating for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:47 AM
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Never thought I'd upvote a redpiller's post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:29 AM
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This is literally a debate sub, meaning it's full of different people and different stances. It's one thing to call out double standards and another to respond with shallow takes that people you claim to stand for will have to answer for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:24 AM
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there is no way to excuse it or pretend like it's anything other than weakness. Except it's literally used to show strength. Tough guys will stick their chins out or approach danger with their hands behind their backs to show they don't fear getting hurt. Vulnerability in a relationship is the same but requires more courage because you're doing it to someone who can use it to hurt you. It's not weakness, nor should we just tell men to be vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:17 AM
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Vulnerability isn't being weak, it's being fully human.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:55 AM
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There's a large group of men who just dont want to socialize. Sure, they'll complain about being lonely but dont expect them to put in much effort. So these guys wont stop playing video games alone and they wont try to find hobbies to bond with others over. Why? Do you think they came out the womb not wanting to be around anyone? I think this is the where the accusation of man-hating comes from, a shallow look at a problem that is only tolerated because it's a problem affecting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:51 AM
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The feminist insinuation is that in a state of nature, rape doesn't exist, This feels like an asspull and a complete misunderstanding of what "systematic" means. What do you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:19 AM
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If it was something I was into, I'd appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:16 AM
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So by "men" you mean "redpillers".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:47 AM
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Have you actually seen her content? It's soft porn thirst traps, That's a weird way to say fully clothed twerking. Thirst traps, sure, but it's less porn than rated R movies. And she repeatedly tears down other women, goes on about how she's superior and she "will steal your man" That's a joke about how good her cooking is when it's not the captions aimed at her detractors.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:55 PM
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They can control who they allow enter it and they can control whether or not protection is used. And they should have the right to terminate a pregnancy, especially when it's early in the pregnancy like most terminations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:40 AM
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shush
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:31 AM
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Dude admit we men are statistically way worse than women. No way you thought that phrasing was helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:02 AM
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Majority of states allow them still, and in the states that don't, majority didn't want it. That isn't a good thing. The women who want control of their bodies are still screwed even if they're the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:01 AM
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Cant blame men when theyre creepy, even when they stalk women, send dick pics, and say extremely inappropriate things to them. What's the tea here? Cant blame men for being abusive to women. No, its women’s fault…. And here? Cant even be blamed for the crimes they commit. No no no, it has to be the SINGLE MOMS blamed. And here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:22 AM
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It’s funny in a sad way seeing guys online complaining about how hard it is to pick up girls on dating apps then going to bars and seeing girls just waiting around because there are barely any guys confident enough to approach them. 99% of the guys who feel lonely spend their time on solitary hobbies like gaming or scrolling their phones. So are these men living solitary lives or are they regularly going into bars and passing by single women? If someone makes a post here telling men that a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:16 AM
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BBWs get play.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:05 AM
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Yeah. I get the feeling a lot of the manosphere is based on feelings or experiences that get applied to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:02 AM
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But when it comes to things like pegging or being dominated by the woman, many suddenly find this requirement is no longer necessary. I'm sure they'd feel the same way if they were into femdom. It can't be about whether it's wanted, since the entire argument is about it being necessary for a relationship regardless of whether one person wants it or not. I maybe wrong about this, but I always thought the problem was men feeling unseen in a sexual way. A recurring issue in the manosphere seems to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:07 AM
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I might be wrong, but I don't think WhenWolf81 was advocating for letting the horeseshit go but not doing so in a toxic way. While I don't know if your comment would count, I've seen people try to fight toxicity with more toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:30 PM
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Given that definition, it depends on both the cause and the form of the "grudge". Those are formative years where you learn who are and what you want from life. Someone simply not having romantic interest in those they aren't interested in can be the actions of someone who is well adjusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:45 PM
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By that definition, men are regularly told that it's okay for women to hold grudges.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:56 PM
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I don't know how I feel about people who petition for "paper abortion" (is that the word?) who don't advocate for programs like Basic Income. That said, this seems a little intellectually honest. If you know there are valid reasons a guy wouldn't want to be a parent, then you already have some answers to the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:36 AM
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Would it ever be right for men to tell women which men they should be willing to date for whatever reason? This feels like reverse nice guy nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:31 AM
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There are members of a gender that do X does not mean the entire gender does X
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:26 PM
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Wasn't there recently a post here asking why heterosexual men want to attract women? I'm glad you had good lived experiences, not everyone has had the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:35 AM
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I wouldn't care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 08:16 AM
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That title is...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 12:53 PM
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Two. I wouldn't be with her if I didn't respect her ability to think for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:30 AM
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Everyone propagates toxic masculinity. Men created the term to address what society does to them, a clear difference to how it is used currently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:25 PM
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You’re looking for a way to blame women here Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:24 AM
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That's because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 08:23 AM
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I don't believe all women are gold diggers. I understand that people go through things or fall on hard times. While I don't believe in gender roles, I'd be okay with providing if she makes up for it in other areas of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 05:42 AM
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Why do men feel that they must be coupled up or sexually active to enjoy life? Humans enjoy meeting common human needs. Why are homicidal incels even a thing? Many reasons, none of them a justification, but maybe it's things like asking why they want something as common as romantic interest. Next question: why do men want to eat every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:41 PM
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This sounds like a sneak diss against women willing to go dutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:45 PM
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If women don't get pleasure from PIV I think one or two of them might enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:59 PM
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Apply intersectionality to men. I remember reading a post about International Men's day and the poster was like, "instead of celebrating men, let's talk about the men who need attention" and they went down the long list. Racial minority men, queer men, poor men, and by the end I just thought, "you could have just said MOST. You just listed the majority of men." These "men" we keep hearing about rarely exist because we're not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:44 PM
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he gave more money to immigrants than native New Yorkers Can you expand on that? But most deaths in black communities You know it's not just the deaths people have an issue with, right? And I throughly studied African American history. And I can assure you White Supremacy isn't a real thing. Especially nowadays. Only time White Supremacy was thing was when blacks were enslaved. Even a white guy with just a high school education knows that's bullshit. Destiny hates leftists these days and even he…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:25 AM
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ric Adam's literally push BLM nonsense You mean his continued criticisms of black lives matter? I'll respond to the rest when I get back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:49 PM
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LMAO So he isn't a "true" liberal if he isn't perfect? If by "isn't perfect" you mean he's a former republican who has pushed republican agendas and propaganda once he was elected, sure. Do you guys even look into things or just assume you know everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:46 PM
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Blacks have the ability to be in higher power literally debunks white supremacy being a thing. Anyone who was alive during the Obama administration and says that is just lying. His presidency created more hatred against black people. Or "blacks" as you call them. And remember Blacks voted for those Blacks mayors. You're desperately trying to deny reality. Before I thought you were pretending to be a black person but if you really think a black mayor means liberal then I'm doubting if you're an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:58 AM
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Most predominantly black areas have black MAYORS. As a black person, there's something wrong with a black person who thinks a black mayor can do away with white supremacy when a black president couldn't do that. There's no white man telling black women to abort their babies which black women being like 8% of the population while having 40% of abortions. Oh noes, black women being responsible. You black conservatives crack me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:24 AM
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The original concept of toxic masculinity was very much a condemnation of how society (including women) pressures men to perform gender roles in a harmful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:10 AM
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I think this is an example of horseshoe theory. She's an attractive woman who cooks and now she's accused of trying to get male validation. Maybe she likes cooking like all the other women on tiktok who make cooking videos. We're basically back to telling women what to do and stop having fun. I suggest everyone watch The Pick me Paradox by Tara Mooknee.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:44 AM
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Valid points. I do wonder why it bothers you to hear "men don't know what it's like" from women. You literally do not, It depends on what the subject is. If someone had a traumatizing experience and is then told he doesn't know what it's like then it doesn't feel fair to ask him to hold in the feeling of dismissal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 06:22 AM
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I don't think the problem is just when men hijack conversations about women. President Obama made an initiative to tackle the issues facing innercity Black (and later Hispanic) men. There was massive pushback by prominent feminists that felt very much like the "what about the menz?" intrusions you're talking about. But if we're going to talk about those intrusions, I think both sides need to do some self-reflection on what they want. On one hand, we shouldn't bring up circumcision when there's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:27 PM
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We need widespread acknowledgment that there are men's issues that need to be addressed for the sake of men. Men are in a double bind where they're told they shouldn't expect feminism to fix their problems, but when they try to fix those problems they're told that they should just be feminists. If you accept that men have valid issues then speak up when someone tries to downplay or dismiss them. There are so many viral think pieces that do this and go viral. Also, just be as intersectional when …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 05:03 PM
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I think the disconnect occurs when men expect women to equally advocate for their issues without giving the same consideration to women. Why should women spend their time advocating for men when they have the ability and agency to advocate for these changes for themselves? Men who need help the most don't really have that power, but a bigger concern is the downplaying or denial of men's issues. Even something as benign as raising funding for prostate cancer research has received pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:11 PM
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This sounds like it comes from a conservative trying to use the problems men face to push conservative views without anyone noticing. We notice. You're the reason men aren't fully honest with their concerns. They don't want to be accused of being you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:06 PM
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Easy: Everyone must hold to their values even when it doesn't immediately benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:19 AM
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I question everyone so that isn't a problem. I mean I remember seeing posts against BlackLivesMatter and had to explain to someone that Liberals and Leftists are different. Again, maybe it changed but back then it felt like a space that would call Sargon or Shoe0nhead a leftist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:33 PM
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I don't think I've read that sub in over a year, but I remember many right-wing men there. Like Menslib, I hope it has changed since then but I remember both having almost the opposite problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:26 PM
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Not sure where the cutoff is, but there is this story about a 13-year-old who fell down the alt-right pipeline after he was falsely accused of sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 12:14 PM
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MensLib is more focused on the discussion of men's issues at large. If you're looking for a place to vent, might I recommend r/bropill and r/guycry No, I mean there are people there who seem to be against the idea of men venting at all. One of my last comments was wondering there there was another post about it. This has not been my experience, and I'm not aware of black men being blamed for racism. Do you have a link? Sorry, I missed this. The issue was about South Asian men. There were rule ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 08:20 AM
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There's a bit of weirdness in Menslib. Half the people there don't seem to want the space to exist, there was a big controversy about men of color being blamed for their oppression, and I was banned despite not breaking any rules. It's not really reaching out to men as much as making a space for men where women are comfortable. And no, I don't mean women-bashing but even bell hooks acknowledged that women are often uncomfortable with men addressing grievances. A lot of people in menslib don't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:57 AM
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Traditional? Desperate? Submissive? Thirsty? What? I'm sorry, but what? Women approaching men is not traditional. Women waiting to be approached and getting mad that it doesn't happen is traditional. I think a lot of men have been part of or even just witnessed this conversation: Woman: I can't any guys to ask me out. Man: Why don't you just ask them out? Woman: What? I can't do that. What if I get rejected? And it usually makes us want to bang our heads into a wall. I don't see a woman who appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:56 PM
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I honestly don't know how I feel about feminism. I recently wrote here about how the feminist reaction to My Brother's Keeper (a program targeted to young inner-city black men) made me decide never to identify as a feminist. I think the issue is this line: Society needs equality between the sexes. There is no other alternative. I agree, but I'm not sure feminism (in its current state) can be that movement. Most feminists seem to see gender issues like race, gender identity, or sexuality. This ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:45 PM
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It is sexist because it essentially treats ALL women as potential threats to your professional career and reputation. But men are generally treated as potential threats all the time and told to get over it. How is this different from the "men or a bear" meme? Or Schrodienger's rapist? Or whatever we'll get two or three years from now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:10 AM
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Please do not comment things about the more extreme side because again that’s not what I’m talking about, I only want comments on what you guys think about actual feminism. Some topics of feminism include the gender wage gap, abortion rights, women being treated as lesser than men, etc. So feel free to comment on any of these topics or more and state what you think about them or feminism as a whole. My problem with this is that no one thinks they're extreme. I remember Obama's My Brother's Keepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:04 AM
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The vast majority of abortions take place in the first trimester. That's not killing a baby, it's getting rid of a collection of cells.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 07:47 AM
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But you tagged them into a conversation they weren't a part of. That does seem obsessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:51 PM
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Ive known men who have been falsely accused of things and horrible women, but ive met far more salty cowards, and women who've been abused. There are men who know a lot of bad women but, to their knowledge, don't know any rapists or abusers. I don't think either of us wants men to base who they empathize for on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:22 PM
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Do you really think it's the vulgar awful shits having the problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 08:10 PM
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They don't know who it is, they're just using the opportunity to be a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:48 PM
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Why exactly was a slur necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:47 PM
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As /u/Lucian-Salop said that isn't evidence of her lying, but are sure she said it at all? Those words sound like what Clementine Ford said. I think you have the two confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 07:14 PM
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You're on Reddit. You don't think there are men who have tons of negative experiences with women? Would you ever take that as proof that 60% of women are horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:43 PM
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I've had a lot of women attack and hate me for just being different. Not women I've made a creepy comment to, I mean women I've barely talked to at all. It made the depression I was already going through a lot worse. I'm not sure why you're so eager to claim it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:31 PM
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I had a situation where I was falsely accused of non-sexual assault. The police were never called so none of the footage from the various cameras was used. Meetings were arranged to talk out the matter, the other party never went. Despite no evidence of me hurting anyone, rumors went around and stayed for years. Part of why it never went away was because I am awkward and there are a lot of people who equate that with creepy. I always try to help people and go out of my way not to hurt people. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 06:27 PM
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Why do you want a woman rather than a man? I thought the title was badly worded up until this. I'm heterosexual. There is no logic or choice in it. It's not that there is an appeal to women so much as I'm biologically attracted to them. Any extra answer is pretty much a result of cultural programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:04 PM
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What are your views on your mothers and if applicable your daughters? Are your opinions consistent with all the women? I’ve seen many posts of all women being leeches and harpies I'm pretty sure a lot of the manosphere has grown up with toxic mothers. To them, it's like asking Valerie Solanas what she thinks of her father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 07:32 PM
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“high standards” that women have are being nice, respectful, and non offensive. I can appreciate that there is a lot of misogyny and misinformation women hear from people online, but I don't think oversimplistic advice helps anyone. There are plenty of men who are nice, respectful, and non offensive who are single. There was probably more to what she said but I couldn't sit through that video.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:58 AM
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It doesn't seem to be enough to convince his fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:45 AM
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You're missing the part where he uses the jobs men have had (and at times stopped women from entering) as justification for men having an advantage over women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 06:35 PM
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Here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:31 PM
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Of which part?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:24 PM
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They cater to the same types of LA/Vegas/Miami party girls they say they would never wife up, No, they cater to men (and maybe even women) who want to see women like that taken down a peg. ... But isn't that the same type of women they complain about? Don't they wish more women were loyal and not validation-seeking hoes? Yes, but I don't think they're interested in the women playing along for sexual gratification; there are some men who really want to see women "diminished" and then shame them f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:21 AM
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I think he's a male chauvinist who uses women seeking his approval to paint himself as an authority. As bad as he is, I feel like he gets power from the double standards many men face. Those men support him as a weird form of revenge. It's like the women who have been mistreated flocking to a "men are trash" type spokesperson.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 04:56 PM
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But you're fighting a bad argument with another bad argument. At some point you have to ask whether you want to make a change or just annoy people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/20 01:55 AM
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There is no gay domination, meanwhile men being in power is seen as the norm in the vast majority of the world. This makes it easy for people to dismiss you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/20 01:54 AM
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What results?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/20 12:00 AM
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And North-Korea is literally democratic. It isn't, but intersectionality comes from the people who were being excluded and are still asking for inclusion and are not the biggest voices in the feminist movement. This is stuff we can go and look at instead of just yelling "no" at each other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 11:52 PM
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I don't get what you're saying. A lot of men are choosing not to vote, but you could make the argument that people have been trying to stop minority men from voting for decades.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 11:48 PM
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Intersectionality is literally about inclusion.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 11:44 PM
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No, because intersectional feminism is exclusionary. It practices the idiotic idea of Oppression Olympics. I've never heard any feminist say they support oppression Olympics and I've had a lot of arguments with them so... I have seen them acknowledge that need to be more open and inclusive to other groups, even if they weren't sure of the right way to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 10:55 PM
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This: We are a focus group that tries to address a certain limited range of issues here. But we don't promote exclusion of other issues. In fact, our goal would be the elimination of male issues focus groups, as a result of those issues being integrally addressed in wider egalitarian political efforts. Would apply to intersectional feminism. It's literally why it was created. From my time here, I feel confident saying more people here think intersectional feminism is identity politics, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 10:49 PM
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Most definitely not. We are specifically big-tent left-wing. ... Which makes as much sense as being dry water, but if you're a male focused group, then you're an identity politics group. How? What? No. Just no. You seem to be suffering from a severe case of differing definitions. Liberals, at least in America, are capitalists. How many democrats you know identify as socialists and how are they treated by other democrats?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 10:35 PM
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Maybe in the sense that socialist writers foresaw an outright violent rebellion against their oppressors. But if you complain about women or feminists telling men what their problems are or aren't, then you're no different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 10:31 PM
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I don't know why it needs to be said so much, but this sub is idpol. Socialism (which American liberals do not embrace) is idpol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 03:59 PM
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The bourgeoisie identitarians and libfems who have hijacked the left wing into being entirely about social issues, and by social issues I mean microagressions and demanding more WoCEOs and indigenous drone pilots, It sounds like you're talking about liberals (or neoliberals) and not leftists. Those are two groups who regularly outright say they hate each other all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 01:23 PM
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A lot of people think feminism has flaws, that's why womanists exist. "Feminism is cancer" or, "feminism is a hate group" is something different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 01:19 PM
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No, that's mission creep and everyone hates mission creep. Why not just talk about male issues without downplaying every other issue? That's what people think of when someone starts talking about "men's rights" and I've seen a lot of it right here. Plenty of people care about male issues but don't want to be seen as the type to hate feminism or BLM.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 09:09 AM
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Who are "they"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/10/20 09:05 AM
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And I'm confused because I have no idea where any of this is coming from. It reminds me of when conservatives tell me I'm the real racist because I talk about systemic racism. All of these seem like utterly nonsensical complaints to me. A lot of people here are misled on what pretty much everything is. Yes, some of that due to teenagers miscommunicating something they heard fifteen minutes ago, but a lot of it is the Right purposely slandering social justice efforts. A bigger problem is that peo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/10/20 07:42 PM
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I know socialists, I know social justice advocates, I don't know the people you're talking about and the example you gave was someone saying something that we have a demonstrable example of thanks to the OP. "The woke movement" seems to be just the extremists or a strawman.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 11:38 AM
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I need you to support your statement that most people associated with the woke movement (tho you'd rather not use that term) are not effectively undermining inclusivity and social justice by being racist and sexist. ... you want me to show people not being racist and sexist? Anti-white (and anti-Asian) racism and anti-male sexism run rampant in the woke movement. Where is this "woke movement". I hear that word more from conservatives than anyone else. I'm a leftist, I know a lot of people into s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 11:36 PM
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I thought I explained why. If you want me to point you to leftists who point out classism, racism, homopobia, and larpers, I can do that. If your problem is privilige being brought up, you'll need to tell me what the problem is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 10:26 PM
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The part of the post that actually had a quote from her (the one I posted here) simply says that bringing up the topic of white privilege makes some white people defensive and she calls that white fragility. That's not something that needs calling out. Given that leftists are accused of "eating their own" I think we both know there's a lot of calling out going on. Even with the Bill Burr monologue, the reaction has been defensiveness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 10:18 PM
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Do you disagree with this quote from her “The mere suggestion that being white has meaning often triggers a range of defensive responses. These include emotions such as anger, fear, guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and withdrawal from the stress-inducing situation. These responses work to reinstate white equilibrium as they repel the challenge, return our racial comfort, and maintain our dominance within the racial hierarchy. I conceptualize this process as white fragility. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 05:21 PM
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Where are these "most" that distance themselves from the likes of Robin DiAngelo? Who is she and what problem do you have with her?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 08:23 AM
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That doesn't apply to most.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 08:02 AM
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Inclusivity. Social Justice. The push for diversity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 07:24 AM
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The woke movement is turning on white women slowly, but it is odd how white women were the forerunners of it for so long and only used it to bash white men That's a weird way to see it. Despite all the talk about sexism in 2016, a higher percentage of white female voters voted for trump than twice the percentage of black male and female voters combined. That's percentages, not raw even raw numbers. They pretty much turned their back on what you call the woke movement (a funny term for leftists t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 01:34 AM
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You do realize equality is a lot more complicated than this, right? One can use this same analogy to defend Seperate but Equal which we all know didn't result in equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 06:25 PM
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Femicide is the murder of a woman. we have the term homicide why inventing a new term ? feminists say "femicide" is not normal murder. it is the murder of a woman "just because she is a woman" There are instances of women being murdered for being women so the term is needed. Infanticide is a term, I'm not offended by it as an adult. Even with that, I rarely see femicide used in murder cases.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 05:31 PM
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The underhanded way in which you try to throw shade on OP without addressing their arguments. Which you still haven't done. I would need to know what the OP meant by "feminism and racial seperatism" which is why I asked them what they thought of that picture I posted. If people here are really leftists then they know how socialism and communism are used by people who don't know what they really mean, but just want to paint people tackling class struggles as either lazy or authoritatian.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 11:05 PM
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No, not in the sense of intersectionalist social justice identity politics. What do you think that means? Because intersectional just means taking other struggles into account. Focus groups are fine, focus groups that paint all other focus groups as the bad guy is just regressive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 11:03 PM
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I'm not sure what I'm explaining myself for, but this from another is the kind of rhetoric that the OP reminded me of: Identity politics isn't about achieving equality. It's about finding ever-increasingly bullshit excuses for leftists to turn against each other, in the name of equality. Its only observable effect has been to make the Left so weak that it lost its ability to suppress fascism, and now we're just waiting for Trump to complete the transition to fascism and start rounding us up. Thi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 01:05 PM
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Identity politics isn't about achieving equality. This sub is identity politics. This is what I was talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 12:55 PM
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People who talk like the OP are usaually against any real attempts to help woman and racial minorities reach equality (even if it's just pandering). The image explains that you can't reach equality by just upholding the status quo.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 02:17 AM
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With posts like this, I honestly wonder why I even try with this sub, but let me just make sure. What do you think of this image? And though I think it will fall on deaf ears, maybe try watching this video.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/20 05:47 PM
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Also, we know that Lenin, Marx, Joe Hill, Engels, the Communards, Rosa Luxemburg, Trotsky cannot possibly have been adherents of CT, due to their having died before CT existed From the wiki you posted yourself, it implies the ideas were based on the ideas of Marx. Can you tell me what you have against Critical Theory?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 04:19 PM
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What do you call 1 bad cop and 11 good cops who do nothing about the bad one? 12 bad cops. I think you're paraphrasing too much. If 1 bad cop abuses someone and 11 "good cops" stand by, then you have 12 bad cops. The so-called "good" feminists are still okay with an ideology Feminism isn't just one ideology. There are several that all disagree with each other. There are plenty of disagreements had on Menslib. Your talk kind of sounds like feminists who dismiss any male issues for fear that it wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/20 07:01 PM
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Feminism isn't a monolith. There are good ones and bad ones. If you honestly care about men's issues and want them to get more exposure, you'd work with the good ones.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/09/20 12:28 AM
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Why not? The poster still posts there and plenty of people push back against bad ideas.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 03:25 PM
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The OP is a link to a post from Menslib. I understand the kind of people you're talking about, I'm not going to say they don't exist or have influence there, but they aren't the only ones who go to that sub. There are as many level-headed people as there are extremists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 02:24 PM
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It makes women partially responsible for men's issues. Instead of framing it that way, why not say that society influences us all so it's not about blame but the responsibility of all of us to examine ourselves for bias. I say that because there seem to be very polarized people that want to blame men or women for everything. I think we need to move toward the "dicks and chicks are in it together" mentality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/20 02:16 PM
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Real talk, you do a lot of hit and run posting as well as posting a lot of links in different subreddits. Your posts are still up, but they probably thought you were spamming.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 10:52 PM
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While I recognize that this is just an outline for a talk, what's here is weak and eye-roll worthy. It reads like something you'd get from Sargon of Akkad. You paint feminism with a broad brush, but will then complain when they do the same with men's issues. I'm not saying don't criticize, I know there is a lot to criticize within feminism (especially pop feminism). If anything, I want deep, well thought out criticism that recognizes what women go through but spots holes in theory or the applica…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 10:45 PM
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Maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but Season 2, while not openly anti-feminist. Seems to be promoting a couple of anti-feminist messaging. You're seeing things that aren't there and have been since season 1. Glorification of female empowerment Female empowerment doesn't mean women are perfect. It means women aren't less than men. Having a female villain doesn't go against that. Outsized importance on sexual harassment. Several scenes put sexual harassment and general women's issues back …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 05:44 PM
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There is a lot more complexity and nuance surrounding these issues than your comment suggests. No, there is no nuance over a meme loaded with dog whistles and the OP's later posts show that he's speaking of things he has little knowledge of. Anyone who can't see that has never read any leftists writings. This level of telling on themselves is on the same as a non-gamer comparing The Last of Us 2 to Schindler's List.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 08:05 AM
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Their ideology is dishonest and it's based on revisionist race theory, which is biased and not observable. What ideology? The slogan is BLACK LIVES matter, and it's a misnomer because the majority of black problems are not centered around police activity. To even reduce the black experience down to merely interacting with law enforcement is some of the most stereotypical and racist shit I've ever seen. And it only focuses on the bottom of barrel group of blacks (WEB Debois referred to them as th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 07:59 AM
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Well, that's what BLM is doing so what part of them are you against? Calls to demilitarize the police? Restructuring police funding so that we can get social workers to handle social worker problems instead of police? What?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 04:10 AM
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The idea that the "right" thinks one way and the "left" thinks another is all TV nonsense. TV rarely points out the right-wing dog whistles and talking points, that's what makes them so insidious. I was raised by what would be considered a radical left by todays standards, and she disliked "right wing" talking points on specific issues, however she would not approve of any of the problem solving approaches if the current BLM mob and their affiliates. She grew up in a different era, during Jim cr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 02:57 AM
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Nuance? You posted a nonsensical meme filled with a weird mixture of stereotypes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 02:45 AM
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... That's another right-wing talking point you made. Are you actually left-wing because you're coming off as less so than a liberal?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 01:48 AM
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This was from last year before he lost his mind.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 09:26 PM
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So I guess you guys are going masks off and no longer pretending to be left-wing, huh? These are right-wing talking points from people who pretend not to know what BLM is about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 09:08 PM
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It's garbage. It's not really for men as you can see in this piece or this one that was gladly removed. And with all that, it's not even good for the opposite sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/20 02:51 PM
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I always thought of society as the problem, not any one group and definitely not anyone gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 01:45 PM
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I actually see nothing wrong with women supporting women. I can only imagine the outcry if "men supporting men" was trending Isn't that what Natalie Wynn purposed in her "MEN" video. Isn't it also what Movember, Men sheds, and other programs are about?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 04:12 PM
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But there would also be commentary about how women get called irrational for these things while men don't. No there wouldn't. I can tell you that because there was a well-known video of a woman going up to a man and berating him and no one wanted to defend her because she was being irrational. So the best you can say about Yoho is that you don't believe he's sexist just unstable. That means that he's still a problem and now you'll be asked to show him acting that way with any man. Double standar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/20 02:07 PM
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You think a female congressman coming out of nowhere, verbally attacking someone over nothing, then saying, "fucking dick" as they walk away... wouldn't get pushback? They would be called irrational and unfit (uncivilized and unfit if they're a racial minority) and the same people defending Yoho would be attacking them. This isn't a good example of a double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/20 09:06 AM
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Can you point out what turned you off of exredpill? Skimming the sub, everything seems reasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 04:45 AM
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women have more privilige and men are victims of sexism and discrimination I'm not a feminist but I don't believe in the first part of that sentence. No offense, but you seem to be taking the all or nothing approach that probably turned people away from feminism and wondering why it's turning people away from you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 04:38 AM
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It sounds like it might be the one literally titled "men".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 07:38 AM
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Here is your problem: you have people like Candance Owens who outright speak against black people while also denying toxic masculinity. What you're framing as a "what if" is actually the norm in certain circles, so your post comes off as a denial of all that while asking for empathy. This is what allows people to dismiss objections.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 02:40 AM
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It's not about actions being masculine or feminine but looking at comanalities between men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 08:39 AM
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How do you distinguish between gender and gender roles? A transman can feel like they should be a man from childhood without feeling like he should be the head of a household know how to fix things. Does that make any sense? We can acknowledge there are some average differences between men and women without putting a value on those differences or turning around and making those differences proscriptive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 08:15 AM
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I didn't see that comment (I came here because the post was locked by the time I saw it) but yeah, things like that. They don't really see a difference between gender and gender roles so they seek to dismantle the former to dismantle the latter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 06:43 AM
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I understand that side, but if we can examine boys and see that they learn better under certain conditions, we can use that knowledge to help them in school. That would be an example of descriptive masculinity.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 06:40 AM
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I only use masculinity descriptively. There are traits common to males, but not necessary or required to be considerered a male.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 05:25 AM
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The only thing I find useful about the phrase is that it implies corollaries in "positive masculinity" i.e. positive traits associated with men I like it when people use it and then give examples of positive masculinity. The problem is that some people who use it don't believe in positive masculinity or that masculinity can be positive without insinuating that women can't have those traits. Otherwise...its kind of like a much less historied version of the "N" word. No... no. Just no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/20 03:41 AM
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I honestly don't understand what you mean.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 10:23 PM
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Sure, and I'm encouraging verbal communication and stating what you're after.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 10:21 PM
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Avoiding situations where you can even be accused of acting scummy hasn't always worked, eh? If you're saying that being accused of sexual harassment is possible when not even approaching women, then you can stop backing up like a bad toilet and say so. But I'm not really even sure what it is that you are saying. Perhaps you want to make a side point about how less desirable men are treated by random women. I don't know. It's just a weird set of side-points that are minimized to greatest extent …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 09:49 PM
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Fundamentally what you're ignoring is that there are women who want to play hard to get, and fundamentally are phobic about sex and want the guy to take the responsibility for the sex act. Sounds like the kind of woman that should be avoided. Equal rights mean equal responsibilities, including taking responsibility for your sexuality. They're not really any better than men who try to hide their sexual interest in order to have plausible deniability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 08:40 PM
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Alright, it may have been bad manners, but I think neither the law nor politics should decide that. You don't think law or politics (not sure what you mean by the latter) should decide whether someone should be touched? It's one thing if we're just talking about verbal rudeness... and that's the point. but please don't start discussions about two people you don't know and one tugging the other's hair. You mentioned risks. I gave an example as an inappropriate risk
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 05:59 PM
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Just tugging her hair? It may have been playful and she may have liked it, She really, really didn't and he had no reason to assume she would. That is the whole point. We shouldn't assume we have a green light. The woman in question felt really uncomfortable and didn't want to see him again. "Hey, you want to go out sometime" would have saved everyone involved a lot of problems. I bet if he had tried to change it to something else people would have called it harassment. You mean if he asked her …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 08:24 AM
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You got those upvotes because MensLib is a self-flagellating feminist subreddit filled with men who will upvote anything that follows the feminist line and tells men how and why they are in the wrong. While a lot of people there did appreciate it, a lot of people got offended by that intro, enough that they started out right lying about what I said. There was at least one person who said they identified with the intro and read it as a result, which is what I was going for. I knew that OneY and t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 10:36 PM
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How are you defining risks? Can you give me a situation? Recently, I read about how Dr. Nerdlove met a woman at a convention. He had a normal conversation with her until he decided to put his hands in her hair and give a tug (his description of the event). That is an example of something I wouldn't do. They weren't on a date, the conversation was platonic, he skipped a lot of steps. How do you feel about that situation as an example?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 07:08 PM
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So you came here to talk at us, not with us? The opposite. If you think I failed, I honestly want to know why so I can do better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 05:11 PM
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You sound like you'd rather forsake love and sex for the rest of your life than do anything that can be considered harassment or assault by the strictest of misandrists or puritans. You can get both without sneaking into a girl's room and feeling her up. Most men, regardless of temperment, do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 05:09 PM
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You are pushing feminist propaganda and trying to pass yourself as a "moderate". I'm a socialist who believes in the right to wellbeing to no moderate here. If you're talking about feminists and mras: Someone on menslib kept lying about me saying most feminists are extremists and now you're accusing me of hating men without citing any reasons. Are far as gender activism goes, I identify as someone who can't figure out where either of you are coming from. Did you read my post?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 01:26 AM
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The overall tone of the post is a bit preachy, I tried my best to avoid that. I hate reading articles addressed to men (or pretending to be) that talk down to men. I was hoping the Rock analogy would be a good segue into a part of the discussion I don't see brought up enough.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 12:21 AM
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It's to counteract some toxic ideas I've seen floating around, some by people with large fanbases. I hoped it would be read by young men who don't always get the best or more understandable advice. And this isn't just some message to the men here. I've also posted this in r/oney and r/menslib. So far, it has resonated with a lot of people.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/20 12:01 AM
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You don't belong here. If the mods agree with you, I'll delete this. Feminism is a hate movement full stop It's not. I tried to point out that I understand that some feminists push men away (trust me, I've been through that recently) but this isn't just a post for feminists or an attempt to recruit anyone into feminism. men are NOT stupid beasts that need to be taught not to rape or other evil shit. I agree, except there are people spreading very toxic ideas that will actually lead young men to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/20 11:38 PM
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Where are you getting that from? Biden has been touchy with women on camera, too much to just write off multiple accusations. The event says more about the #believeallwomen NPCs than it says about Biden. ... that they're against sexual assault? Plus, why is a "left-wing" sub using alt-right phrases like NPC?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/20 03:30 PM
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It's not. Like, that's demonstrably false. The only difference is that women were told they would be blamed if they triggered the "predatory nature of men". Now, we (for the most part) call out such victim-blaming, but we still have that predatory view of male sexuality. Feminists didn't create that even if they haven't completely shaken it off.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/20 05:17 AM
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I question how you can be a leftist and support feminism. It is antithetical to equality and supports regressive, Victorian era morals and gender norms. Pretty sure all the anarcho-feminists or feminist sex workers would greatly disagree witht that. Feminism is far more of a right wing ideology than it is a left wing ideology. And yet rightwingers strongly reject it at every turn. I don't consider myself feminist and will call any out when I feel I need to, but just blindly bashing actually make…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 05:32 PM
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But I don't know how anyone can be a Leftist and anti-feminist? They aren't. Renaming privilege won't make them come around because they're only interested in bashing feminism. I really wish there was a place that was purely about addressing the issues men face, but this isn't it (even if it was meant to be originally).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/03/20 04:53 PM
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... or maybe black men and black women are disadvantaged in different ways and oppression isn't just a ladder.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 05:06 PM
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This is outright rape apology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/20 05:03 PM
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Why the hell would an FtM post at /r/MensLib? Because they identify as men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/20 06:55 AM
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This sub is identity politics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/12/19 12:35 AM
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Again with the propaganda trope. you have less credibility than Prager U and AEI So you do know they peddle propaganda but don't like people saying so? You don't want the truth I already demonstrated that I know more about CHS and her background than people who repeat talking points would like me to. She wasn't driven to conservatism by feminists, that's just been her career for decades. She's a clear grifter and it's hard to believe her defenders don't see it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 04:38 PM
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Okay, and I'm pointing out that working with conservative thinktanks as a liberal doesn't negate how the votes are cast by the liberal. Individual votes don't cancel out spreading propaganda that influences people to vote against what you claim to vote for. Aside from that, you have to provide for your family She doesn't. Conservative think tanks aren't the destination for the desperate people just trying to get by. and the fact of the matter is, a lot of feminist organizations have outright bla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 04:19 PM
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What argument tactics? In fact, what argument? I'm pointing out that working with conservative think tanks conflicts with being a liberal. That's "there are no married bachelors" level of common sense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 03:41 PM
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Again, less time trying to discredit your dissenters, and more time strengthening your own argument will go a long way. You really think pointing out that someone working for conservative think tanks conflicts with their liberalism is trying to discredit them? I'm trying to explain to you why they have the reputation they do, but I think you already understand which is why you're attacking me instead of defending AEI or Prager U.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 03:18 PM
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Now I love the shift in argument approach. The maneuver from the argument that she's not a liberal, to AEI being a conservative propagandist. I'm not the original person you were talking to and I'm not shifting the argument. I thought AEI's history was already well known as well as the fact that Christina Hoff Sommers has worked with Prager U. Do I also have to point out that PU is propaganda?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 02:59 PM
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Right. Because someone's employer is totally representative of their political stance, and how they vote is totally irrelevant. Solid logic, bro. That means Jimmy John's employees all agree with big game hunting, No, it means Jimmy John's employees aren't vegans because working for businesses that serve meat isn't inline with vegan ideals and works to continue what vegans see as a problem. In the same way, working for conservative propagandists goes against the ideals of liberalism. You understa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/19 10:57 AM
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That's some interesting wording.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/19 11:13 AM
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If there's any racist epidemic unchecked it's in the rap/hiphop/etc-cultures - which are more than nasty and overt. Who is rap and hip hop racist against?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/19 11:54 AM
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You might as well be saying that breasts feel like bags of sand. A lot of leftist theory was written by straight white men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/10/19 11:08 AM
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That is just something unacceptable to encourage in children, like encouraging them to play with fire. And what high school teachers are encouraging teens to transition? Why would you think that's happening? What made you think this was a widespread problem? Because I have to wait 10 minutes between replies, I'll reply to your other post here: Well at least you aren't pretend to be interesting in asking questions or having a conversation anymore. Where did you get that? My question was why, espe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 10:48 PM
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Dude stop. You are embarrassing yourself. You literally are taking up the cause of a transphobe. It's not an assumption, it's your top level post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 10:33 PM
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It's not exactly "when did you stop beating your wife" but let me rephrase anyway. Are you really "Left Wing"? If so, are you economically left, socially left, or both? If you are socially left or both, why are you taking up the cause of a transphobe?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 09:58 PM
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There are things teachers cannot say. That is different from having compelled speech, which would be mandating that teaches have to say specific things, in specific ways, Not really. Teachers are given guidelines on how to approach various topics and situations. I'd be happy to get rid of teachers who encourage kids to identify as trans And now we get to the problem. This is just more prejudice masquerading as free speech just like this sub pretends to be left wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 09:43 PM
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You don't think teachers have to follow speech guidelines? "Free Speech" in the real world isn't like it is on the internet and that is a good thing when you're dealing with students. What you're asking is for personal prejudice to be protected when working with kids.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 04:26 PM
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Are you left wing or just a reactionary trying to recruit to leftwingers?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/19 01:47 PM
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I don't understand how not liking the male gender role would translate into wanting to date it. And since when is being over thirty a male thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/19 01:17 AM
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I think it's easy to refute that the female fire fighters weren't lobotomized, literally or figuratively. This has been happening long before we pushed to change gender roles.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/19 03:27 AM
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No. In the U.S. there is a long history of women breaking into fire fighting reaching back to the days of slavery. We shouldn't erase that or the other career paths that probably have similar history I'm not aware of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/19 02:53 AM
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Pretty sure women have been trying to be firefighters for a while.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/19 06:58 PM
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This is an MRA sub You really should have just put that on the sidebar and then people like myself would have just avoided it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/19 03:55 PM
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I'm stating a widely known fact and one that's pretty basic to gender issues. No you're not. Go post a thread on /r/mensrights, there are people there who can give you the basics. That's like saying all young black men should be treated suspiciously and then linking me to a pro-cop board for "research". In the meantime I would stop defending a movement when you don't know anything about it. I'm not. In fact, my frustration is that I have a lot of criticisms of feminism that will go unheard becau…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/19 12:52 PM
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I called feminism a "bigoted movement." You said that I'm one of the bad ones because I said that misandrists are bigots. Okay, can you demonstrate that it's a bigoted movement as opposed to a movement with flawed individuals? If not, you're begging the question. Not literally all of them but if 99% of feminists are bigots then we can call the movement a bigoted movement. Fine, can you demonstrate that? How does opposing misandry mean that I don't actually care about equality? Can you explain ho…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/19 03:10 AM
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You link doesn't show me doing what you said I did so... that's not my username Shit, you're right. My mistake. the fact that you think that we shouldn't call a hate movement a hate movement is what I'm talking about. Well, then demonstrate it's a hate movement. Not flawed, not a movement with a lot of annoying or misguided people, but a hate movement. You believe that misandry is a good thing and that opposing misandry is a bad thing. Links? Unless you want to explain how you can support gender…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/19 02:59 AM
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I can link you to the time you defended the people who spent years fighting against gender equality. And I can link you to the time when you said that opposing a bigoted hate movement is a bad thing. Sure, love to see it. Are straight white men the only men who get discriminated against in the justice system? No, but you mentioned metoo and BLM as one of the groups you think engages in the bad identity politics... let me link that for you: When you criticise anything from metoo or BLM or LGBT's:…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/19 02:24 AM
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Just to be clear: You think that anybody who supports gender equality (which needless to say means opposing misandry) is "one of the bad ones." No. Reductionists and people who attack every other advocacy except that for straight white men are the bad ones. you spent years fighting against gender equality. Can you link me to the time I did that? If you can't, the talk of revisionism (again I don't think you know what that means) is projection.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/19 11:08 AM
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If there are people 'using it wrong' they're the only ones I've ever seen mentioning it. That's probably it, you're only seeing the bad side. If you're getting it from the internet or some young college student, you're not going to be talking to an experienced person. you force me all the time to repeat the simplest things, Really? Because I thought I was the one who asked for a specific example multiple times.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 07:48 PM
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Everybody has different experiences and only a reasonable exchange of facts and arguments can solve discussions. Everyone has opinions on medicine but we understand that a doctor might understand a little bit more. This is why I wanted a specific example because marginalized people are often the ones getting shut down by people who don't know about a situation but come into it with their own assumptions. Again, I already said that there are people using it wrong. If that's what you're using to d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 07:41 PM
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When you criticise anything from metoo or BLM or LGBT's: 'Oooh, funny how cishet white men think they know anything about this subject! Can you give me an example. Do you understand that there are things rape victims, people of color, and LGBT members understand better than others because of their experiences?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 07:30 PM
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I said identity politics is prevailing the experience of one group over another instead of preferring open discussion. Okay, then tell me what you mean by this: I said identity politics is prevailing the experience of one group over another instead of preferring open discussion. Can you give me an example.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 07:24 PM
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I said identity politics is prevailing the experience of one group over another instead of preferring open discussion. I'm not sure the word "prevailing" works that way, but importantly, I don't think you fully understand how "lived experience" is suppose to be used and that's probably because you met people who were using it wrong. The weird thing is that it's important to any kind of advocacy, so you can't really ignore it for others without being a hypocrite.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 07:12 PM
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Identity politics is prevailing the narrative and 'lived experience' of 'marginalised groups' over other people, Those marginalized groups are also the other people. "Lived experiences" is just another word for the things they go through, something we have to take into account if we want to change the world for the better. If you don't, then you're not really leftist. like intersectional feminism does, often even wanting 'privileged groups' to shut up A lot of feminists are members or privileged…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 06:41 PM
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this is a sub for identity politics. On a sub for socialism, it should be less important than socialism. Socialism is identity politics. Again, it can't work unless you take in other forms of oppression. Have you even read The Conquest of Bread. and you can't do that unless you address men's issues too. Part of our hierarchy is that men are disposable, men are treated worse in the justice system, violence against men isn't taken seriously. How can we get rid of those hierarchies if feminists say…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/19 01:07 PM
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Obviously I'm not against all identity politics. I'm just against the type that's in vogue What? That sounds asinine. I'm complaining that some socialists are putting that ahead of the class-based politics they claim to be about. Well one, that's not what is happening in the screencap. Two, socialism is also identity politics and you can't really embrace it without the others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/19 04:04 PM
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You're on a sub with "male advocates" in the title but you're complaining about identity politics? Socialism seeks to get rid of hierarchies, you can't do that unless you address the various privileges and discrimination people face. Just like you're in favor of "identity politics" for men, socialism is class based identity politics. Is anyone on this sub actually "left wing"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/19 03:36 PM
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How it came to what? It's clear that the sub will allow both people there even if it's not geared toward them. This is cherry picking at it's finest right down to you showing us where the cherries were picked from.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/19 06:37 PM
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So I am to blame for misandry? I never said that, I said that people like you make it harder for those who want to fix male problems. You and the bad feminists draw the same line in the sand and make people choose a side. I told you to shove the victim blaming What exactly do you think victim blaming means? Using your logic we should give some white nationalists a pass because they try and frame their racism as a fight for equality for white people. The purpose of white nationalism is hate, the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/19 02:11 AM
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Telling us the movement that gave white feathers to men Isn't the same as the dozens of different movements today. Even that example doesn't have anything to do with "social dominance."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/19 02:39 AM
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This is called victim blaming It's not in any way whatsoever. and is a very snivelling submissive attitude to have, and part of misandry. Now that, that's an ad hom. I should not have to pretend a hate movement that targets me for just being male is legitimate. There are a lot of feminists who may be stupid or unwilling to confront their own classism, racism, etc, but the aim of the movement is equality. Saying feminism is a hate movement is like saying Christianity is an American hate movement.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/19 11:53 AM
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Why it is when I try and bring up mens issues with the average left winger, I get dismissed as a woman hating misogynist incel? Why is it that most left wing channels will not tackle a serious human rights violation like infant circumcision? Why is it that the left tolerates a hate movement called feminism and enable it, thus driving more men to the right? That last question answers the first two: YOU. If you're going to just label feminism an outright hate movement, you make it harder for legit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/19 02:33 PM
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Would you blame a man who'd suffered constant rejection from women for feeling a bit resentful towards them, for example? In that specific example, yes. But if a man has been abused by women, that I could understand even if I couldn't endorse it.
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