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DiscussionKrispyMcSockington/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 05:13 PM
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Regardless of their reasoning though, why should a private company do anything they don't want to to appease a group they want nothing to do with? We can use this logic not to hire women, ignore issues of sexual assault or simply fire workers who have problems with a dangerous work environment. I'd love to see you make the same argument if a company refuses to hire women because maternity leave would cost them too much.
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Just admit you like hanging out with the scum and filth of the internet. You'll go to bed with both a dirty and clean conscience!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:58 PM
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Some virtue signalling. If a plate got pregnant you'd be sure they'd be happy if she aborted. I don't know why we keep dancing around the issue. We've always killed people whether they were babies or adults. An abortion is no different to someone putting a bullet between someone else's eyes. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen nor that women shouldn't have the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:56 PM
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That's pretty much it. I keep trying to tell women they're angry but still putting so much damn effort into trying to appeal to them because they cannot ignore their nature. They want to be loved but cannot trust women because letting their guard down left them vulnerable and all it takes is one bitch to red pill them. They're angry about being taken advantage of and they're expected to take a kick to the nads without flinching. Why should they when women were free to lash out when men hurt them…
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I kinda knew this stuff beforehand, but I didn't realise how quickly people were willing to race to the bottom when losing ground instead of admitting there's something fucky about their view. Also, there are quite a few men who are convinced they're in hopeless situations. To them I say: hang in there! It gets better in your thirties!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:41 PM
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The other user was arguing about women being unaware of their privilege. You're just insulting men for figuring out the truth. This is pretty much what women do when they get found out. When she cheats, first she denies, then she cries. Then when the tears don't work, out come the insults. It doesn't matter if it's attractive or not. This is an important issue that needs to be highlighted, especially if women do care about equality. Men didn't exactly call women's desires to work whining, and if…
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Men want sex, sex, sex. What do they risk when they get it? Women risk the chance of STI's or worse, pregnancy and on top of that, most women can't orgasm from penetrative sex, so the sex isn't even that great. Men are almost guaranteed orgasms after intercourse and in some cases, sexy times are over as soon as he gets his. So the cost of sex vs. the benefits of sex for women ain't the same as men and it is not valued the same way as men. We know this, but then for all the negatives, women still…
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Sex and affection are like money. Women have the money by default and men must earn their wage. This is why when a man cannot get a penny from women, it's his fault for not working hard enough. This is the equivalent of saying 'don't be poor' (don't be unattractive). Hot guys get a card with a practically limitless budget. Part of the ruse is telling men that they can earn a wage through hard work, that women appreciate qualities other than physical attraction far more and being a good man will …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 01:32 AM
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"60% of rapists come from fatherless homes" The feminists should be jumping down women's throats for not teaching their boys NOT to rape. There is also a link between a rapist being victimised when they were young and going on to victimise others. I wonder how many were raped by their moms...
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Do you not understand how this kind of economic dependence leaves women vulnerable to manipulation and abuse? Of course it does. But first, you don't have to bother with dating red pillers. Secondly, women are free to pursue careers, but they have to suffer like the rest of us for having to work 40+ hours a week for shitty pay. You can keep your job and that's fine. But until women can earn more than a man, be okay with supporting him and not let this destroy the marriage, it seems it's better f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 01:49 PM
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The example of the guy who goes to a hooker and says "all women are like that, there is a high chance she's selling her body for money" is ridiculous and there are plenty like that. Yes there are plenty of hookers and women have traditionally traded sex for provision in a form of soft prostitution. That's generally how it goes.
/r/RedPillWives19/09/19 09:42 AM
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"all women are the same" This is a poor interpretation of what awalt means. It means all women have a nature. They like certain traits and don't like others. It's not wrong to say men like boobs. But if you're going to argue 'ALL men?' then you'll get bogged down in semantics. Some men are gay. Some men are ass men. That doesn't take away the fact that men behave a certain way around women they like. Similarly, women behave certain ways around men they like. Their preferences follow a trend, muc…
/r/RedPillWives19/09/19 03:47 AM
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She literally didn’t know You don't see this as a problem too? Why would you move in without noting their preferences and behavior? You don't just agree to that level of commitment without at least discussing responsibilities. Claiming ignorance is a poor argument when dating is a vetting process.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 10:50 PM
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They overlook the issues then get pissed off when the covert contracts are not fulfilled. They're always victims and their poor choices in partners are never their fault. Everyone from the nice guy to the slob of a husband is an asshole. They never 'truly' cared for her and she did absolutely everything she could. Not her fault she got duped despite being able to sense assholishness with a sixth sense that could shut down RP or PUA negging from a mile away. If you date a slob, they're not going …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 10:47 PM
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but farting our loud is just being a douche Phrasing! But it's a bodily function you cannot control. It's also incredibly unhealthy to hold in farts. Coughing while you release them if they're common will make people think you've got TB.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 02:04 PM
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Sure but you should know what works and be able to help your partner get you there if they aren't sure. It's not asking much to talk about what works and: Couples who talk about sex have better sex! If you're unable to orgasm from sex with anyone, you're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 11:01 AM
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The more weight I lost, the easier it was to date. But I had a rule: not dating women who themselves were grossly overweight. That being said, I could not date skinny women. They needed some curves. I don't mind a bit of fat as long as she has a feminine shape that isn't round.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:23 AM
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I literally had friends asking me what I saw in him. "Oh, you know, some chicken, a few burgers, some candy bars, a milkshake, a few donuts. Then when he's done with breakfast, we head out for brunch at his favourite buffet place..."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 09:18 AM
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Can't talk about the nose picking. But the farting is usually due to a bad diet. He might be lactose intolerant. Alcohol is also an issue. My gaseous nature vanished when I switched to lactose free milk, ate less and made sure I had some vegetables on my plate. It also killed the indigestion, the bloating and I lost weight!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:08 AM
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Did he do this stuff previously and flipped a switch all of a sudden? If not there surely were tons of signs? I really wish I knew who these men are who cook and clean when dating then suddenly become selfish dicks when they get married. Weight gain I can't blame women for noticing and complaining about. Men also notice the same from women. But you're supposed to discuss responsibilities and expectations well before tying the knot. And if you date him for longer than three months, eventually his…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 06:05 AM
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Or you can just get her off first... If she's okay with that, sure. But when she's begging to be fucked until orgasm, it's a little difficult to offer your fingers instead. I know what you mean, but the point is getting off means different things to different women. And men in general tend not to turn down sex because there's a chance it might be hard for her to cum. They at least try. There's also nothing better than being balls deep in her when she's orgasming and/or climaxing at the same time…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 10:51 PM
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I did. But you don't know which ones do or don't until you actually sleep with them. Once you start, it's a little tricky to tell her she's the problem when you're getting yours. That will end the sexytime very quickly.
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Of course! I'm tall, confident, lots of fun in bed (ever given head while your SO has been on the phone and you're still enjoying giving it 30mins later?)...also thoughtful and always looking to make my SO's life easier. I have a wonderful job, love to travel, I enjoy trying new food and learning new things. I make friends easily, am witty AF and can make a mean sammich. The sammich comes in handy when she gets the munchies after smoking indoor so high grade, her ass melts into the couch. I also…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 02:19 PM
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Nah. Would just love to see him pound your scrawny ass into the ground with one hand tied behind his back. Might bring back some old memories for you. Poppy's comment she deleted, for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:42 AM
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Settle down sweetheart. Different things work for different women. That's the point. Hence OP's assertion that men are doing women some conspiracy level injustice is very flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:38 AM
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Give her a strapon and tell her to do the work to get your prostate stimulated enough for multiples. She'd give up after two minutes of thrusting due to exhaustion. You'd never get to that mythical whole body, leg shaking prostate orgasm. Women don't realise the work men must put in just to get them close. After an eternity of foreplay there's anywhere from 10mins to an hour of backbreaking thrusting. Then he has to maintain the right amount of thrust without cramping up, all the while maintaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:23 AM
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This. It's like pulling teeth. If they have no idea what works, how the hell is he supposed to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:18 AM
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and I always ask them to finger me afterwards. Fucking finally. An adult who communicates like one! This is the biggest issue with the orgasm gap. Men do not know a woman's biology. They have to bust their asses to get women to bust a nut and are often insulted for not getting it. That's a covert contract and many times women don't even know what works, which is even worse if she's just expecting him to figure out what pleases her. It's not men's fault women have complicated relationships with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:16 AM
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no it's just stupid....borderline retarded. Nobody cares how hard you work ...they care much value you bring You're right. But would you teach this to children? Would you actively tell a kid 'no one cares how hard you work, just what value you bring?'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:09 AM
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That doesn't mean they weren't using dating apps at all. They probably found someone at work, as most do, but were using dating apps anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/19 09:06 AM
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Many people are just going after the mainstream definition of feminism, without thinking a lot about it. They're called 'coffee shop feminists'. They make up the bulk of feminists who have little to no idea what they're supporting. They still believe the line that it's about equality, so they're genuinely confused when you point out the shit feminists have done. 'But that's not my brand of feminism!' Sure, but your brand is not in power and you benefit from the more extreme views espoused by the…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 04:56 AM
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Sure but even for sustainability sake, is it really a good idea to latch onto another organisation's ideas and resources instead of doing them on your own? They're not taking anything away there's not a finite supply of Scouting. The problem is that yes there is. You need resources, time, the environment and good instructors. The more people you put into X, the more resources have to go there, including money, people, time and equipment. But practicality aside, let's say the boy scouts make anot…
/r/MensRights17/09/19 03:38 AM
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Otherwise they'd be content with a legitimate friendship. If you were in love with someone, would you be content with a 'legitimate friendship'?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 10:38 PM
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The orbiters know they're not classically handsome. They just believed the lie that women were not shallow, and that hard work will get you the girl. Hence RP existing in response to this. Keep in mind that obese women get laid way more than obese men, so even those women have orbiters. If you're going to pull the attractivenese card, also don't forget women's hypocrisy in this when they desire men out of their league (hypergamy) while ignoring 80% of men. So it's not like an average man had a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 10:22 PM
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vs a guy who orbits a girl solely because he’s trying to get in her pants This is very rare because if he's just trying to get laid, it's a huge waste of time and energy to be an orbiter. For some reason, only women seem to think a guy would be nice and friendly to her, do boyfriendy things with and for her, spend months or even years in the friendzone, providing emotional support and comfort...just to get in her pants. Vagina is great, but it alone isn't worth that much energy. Usually the orbi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 10:15 PM
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For women, it could take courage and self-expression to step outside the roles normally prescribed for women and do exactly what she wants. It takes courage to just be sexually available around horny men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:26 PM
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Then she should go get paid for it and turn it into a career. That would be transformative. Instead they try to find themselves right onto Chad's dick for a decade or more then want a wealthy attractive guy to propose. This is like sitting around, eating chips all day then trying to run a marathon. Very counter productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:21 PM
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Under femcels I meant women who can't get married. At no point of their life. They can if they lower their standards to their looks match. However, the cel in there means celibate, not that she can't get married. Even morbidly obese women get laid more than overweight men, so it's going to be difficult to claim she's a femcel when she's got standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:11 PM
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The rest of us are here to make fun of the incels TRPs and MGTOWs. You guys are doing a terrible job of it if you are. You do know this is a debate sub, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 07:49 AM
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Just like there's a line at fat percentages where a man can be morbidly obese but a woman not even overweight If only this were true. Fat women get laid way more than fat men. Even obese women get more attention from men than the other way around. There is no BBM porn, for example. In fact, men are very generous when it comes to women's weight. Historically speaking, overweight women were the ideal and men have consistently preferred women who have extra weight on them, even though women believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 03:42 AM
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As a teacher, I couldn't agree more. The worst part is that helicopter parents are so scared of their kids getting hurt that even running around is now seen as a risk. There's this mythical child out there who sits still, follows instructions, does all their work and is never disorganised. Truth is most kids are a bundle of chaos but boys and girls express it differently. For boys it's more physical so they need to move or use their creativity to make stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:59 AM
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Have you seen how many are? You'd swear being pumped and dumped then becoming a single mom is the worst thing in the world, but here we are about to have single moms overtake two parent households. Watch what the do, ignore what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 12:02 AM
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It's not about what should or shouldn't happen. They cannot change the perception of others. The US is weird. It has like multiple personality disorder or something. It screams liberalism in sex and the media but wants conservatism in business and relationships. If a politician has an affair or legally sees a prostitute it would tarnish his image. If that public figure cannot get away with that scrutiny, a private figure probably couldn't either. I'm not against OP's suggestion but there are bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 11:44 PM
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We are not being purposefully dense. We told women here and elsewhere that the older you get, the better dating gets for men. So commit to a good man before you're 30. You're dancing around the truth but not realising it. It's not most men who don't want to marry. The men you find attractive are not 'most men'. We've seen this a million times but women are still convinced the average man is like the men they date. It's just not true. I agree that men in general see marriage as a trap, but they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 11:37 PM
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Those apps were made for hooking up... It's like looking for love in a bar or club. Go to places where people are not looking to hook up first. You're placing the power of your relationships into the hands of corporations then wondering why they want you to change partners often. They want you to be consumers there too and to treat each other as disposable. They aren't offering you love. They dangle the possibility but they're really offering a shallow substitute. That being said, go to r/datais…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 11:23 PM
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You mean the guys they hold accountable, throw in jail and who live in poverty while their wages are garnished because someone made them a parent against their will? Or the men who were dodgy, abusive and possibly criminal who she couldn't resist fucking without protection? I mean, it's not like either party thought this through, but at least she had a choice not to make the life of her child and the child's father more difficult. But she didn't care and expects others to finance her choices. He…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:47 PM
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Most men are wary of it because they've seen what happens to betas who became doormats in relationships or whose divorces were initiated by bored women who became unhappy with the stability marriage offered. What the previous poster was talking about is how men want open or poly relationships. These are the soft harems RP men spoke about before. Those guys are different from betas and they can date, pump and dump as they see fit. Those are top tier men who don't have to settle for most women. Wo…
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Modern men The top tier men I find attractive want polygamous open relationships, non-monogamy, and no form commitment. Relationships are "cuffs", marriage is a "ball and chain". Emphasis here is because most men are not able to make this choice as if they had options. Most men would rather be in a LTR but you're talking about the few who women do find attractive. You do realise you've yourselves to blame here. You keep throwing yourselves at the most attractive men, who don't have to settle for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:36 PM
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Feminism considers men as a class problematic. Even if you claim patriarchy is the problem, it's still 'run' by men. Thus men are the problem. So feminism, the word stemming from women, are these knights of virtue off to slay the patriarchy and end men's oppressive rule. If it truly believed in equality, they'd call it egalitarianism. Strange that they'd want chairman changed to chairperson to be gender equal, but not their own name. Also, the man in chairman comes from the Latin word 'manus', w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 12:10 PM
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Learning a musical instrument, playing sport or learning to write are also great things men can do! If they enjoy service, men can also get involved in counselling, such as helping victims of crime at the police station, or getting involved in community projects, such as cleaning the beach or removing graffiti.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 08:46 AM
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Men will always be around. Not the desirable ones, though. Be ready to scrape the bottom of the barrel or to lower your standards quite a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 08:11 AM
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Again, you have to factor this into the equation. This is why you vet your partners before committing. And if the risk is too high, don't get married. If you spend your money and never have any savings, you can be as mad as you want at the company for retrenching you. But there's a reason why it's a good idea to have money for three months rent, utilities and food saved up. It's not impossible for a young woman to have a job and get married. The couple can plan for their kids so they're less of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 07:58 AM
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IME most women prefer neither to lead, nor to be led. TRP pretends most women prefer to be led, and maybe it's just their image attracts such types of women. I'm sorry but this is not true. The fact that women prefer men to be bosses is well documented. They also desire men who are superior to them in height, financial wellbeing and social class. Even the fact that they prefer men initiate everything from approaches to sex means they prefer men take the lead. Women prefer active men, not passive…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 07:49 AM
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And if your wife craps out on you and you owe her alimony, TOUGH SHIT. Yes and so his choice was to not get married. See? He weighed the pros and cons and decided it wasn't worth the risk. He took responsibility for his happiness and isn't blaming others for poor choices. He also has to live with the consequences of those choices. It comes with maturity and being an adult. You may need to give up something to get something else. Only spoiled kids or adults with the emotional maturity of tweens t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:35 AM
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I'm going to look at the broader argument of family versus career here. Which do you want then? If you cannot have both, pick one and be happy letting go of the other one. Unless you're born filthy rich, no one gets to 'have it all'. You cannot put all your energy into being a mom then expect a job waiting for you when you're 40 when you haven't got more than a high school diploma. You also cannot spend 15 years studying and working and expecting a husband to be waiting for you. You need to put …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 02:32 AM
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These jokes make me a little UnKampfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 02:41 PM
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But for some reason a guys whos main past time is video games is seen as a loser while a girls whos main past time is scrolling insta is not. To be fair, men see this as a red flag and it is becoming a problem that society is aware of. We've known about cyber bullying, which is relatively recent. We also know about how toxic femininity is exhibited online: playing the victim for sympathy and support, gossiping, and even false accusations. They aren't treated as problematic mostly because there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 06:08 AM
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Many betas would be happy with women like you. Unfortunately you are the minority. Men are willing to let women take the lead in relationships but it tends to make most women insecure and anxious. Because you are an exception to the trend, men cannot bank on meeting women like you. So they have to remain stoic and keep their vulnerabilities as far away from women as possible. Have you read Self Made Man by Norah Vincent? She explains it well when she describes what men are like. We wear armour t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 05:52 AM
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Not quite. The smart ones will always find a way to exploit the not so smart ones. All those betas who are hard working are not necessarily smart, just like people who run corporations, governments and religions aren't necessarily good. The pyramid scheme we call an economy is also the same thing we use as a power structure in society. The few, smart ones at the top exploit those below them. They are okay with more dumb people around making more dumb babies. We're just giving them an abundance o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 01:25 AM
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It's not that either is bad. Aside from the male centric perspective, our culture has pretty much put a muzzle on male sexuality while women are very much unrestrained. That's what you're seeing. The previous social agreement men and women had is gone. Men can no longer 'earn' women's affections through hard work but must be attractive such as being tall, masculine, good looking, well built, high in social status and excite women as much as possible. What happened is that, due to the restriction…
/r/RedPillWomen13/09/19 12:46 AM
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I’ve pulled my husband through and helped him on his own journey of being diagnosed as bipolar and almost losing a battle to depression that landed him in a coma and in and out of mental health facilities for months. It's wonderful you've done this but I think OP means when men talk about their feelings in general. When they're not mostly stoic, they're only really allowed a few moments of 'weakness', especially if women expect men to lead. Things like: If he loses his job and bursts into tears …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/19 12:22 AM
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Exploiting the young is wrong But if we consider them old enough to vote (talking 18 year olds here), and to vote wisely, can we not consider them old enough to make their own decisions regarding who they want to date? Conversely, why is an older man somehow more manipulative than someone a decade or more younger? If she's attracted to him, and she's not being held against her will, what exactly are they doing wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:29 AM
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Nope. But I wouldn't marry her either. We're in two different places in our lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/19 12:26 AM
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Yes but using celebs, whose careers could be affected by scandal such as infidelity, is not an accurate measure. Take note of any older, married Alpha males in your family or the family of your social circle and see how long they've been married for, when they got married and to whom they married.
/r/RedPillWomen11/09/19 10:38 PM
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Sure but men's desirability peaks when they're much older. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ In the study, men’s desirability peaks at age 50. But women’s desirability starts high at age 18 and falls throughout their lifespan. As much as women try to equate the two, there's a reason you don't see many men in their 20s marrying 50 year old women, but you will see younger women marrying older men. Additionally, most women are not intereste…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:34 PM
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All four were very muscular while having decent yummy female padding. Dude. This is all we're asking for. She can have a healthy layer of fat but some muscle under it does wonders!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 10:13 PM
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I was referring your act right comment and rather odd suggestion that men don’t want to fuck tall women. They never said they don't want to fuck tall women. But rather that women don't treat men well when they get into a position of superiority. Men are expected to behave responsibly and to put their superior position to good use for the benefit of those weaker or inferior to them. Women tend to use their increased power or superiority to seek partners who are superior or more powerful than them…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 04:48 AM
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That's not the argument. It's that women consider 80% of men like a 2 and 20% are between 8 and 10. Men see a 5/6 and would still date or marry her. Ugly girls are the minority in men's eyes. Unattractive men are the majority in women's eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 04:44 AM
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Ah! But why unsettling? Is it due to how much they have to cover up because it's cold so it's unexpected? Or like physical features?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 03:20 AM
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You're talking class difference. What most men notice is the same men are sleeping with most of the women. Women enjoy sleeping with men who exhibit dark triad traits. Someone who is dangerous in upper middle class America exhibits it differently to men living in the war torn regions of the Congo. Example: school bullies. They exist in all classes (punintended) but they still get laid way more than nicer, less violent men. So claiming only dangerous women prefer these men is not true. Police off…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/19 03:18 AM
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I never mentioned 19 year olds. And five years is a big enough range to exclude a bunch of women in their 30s. A 34 year old man marrying a 28 or 29 year old woman is not impossible. That means women 30-34 have been excluded. And you're right, the longer they wait the worse it is. But your origjnal point was about the bitterness, which women express about age and the lack of 'good men' when they are older. Weight is something that can be changed but she cannot lose five years to be more attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:45 PM
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Sure but they aren't in a hurry to commit. Bettina Arndt wrote about this saying there's growing singlehood among women in their thirties. Guys will date them and sleep with them but they won't marry them in a hurry. It is also not impossible for a moderately attractive man to date a woman four or five years younger than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:39 PM
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It's only difficult to change when you want it gone, never when you don't care about what you're eating. Difficulty isn't the issue. It's willingness. Someone who is terribly overweight shows that their desire for food is more important than their desire to be healthy or attractive. That's not a good sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 03:37 PM
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I don’t see them being bitter about it and complaining that men’s preferences are unfair/immoral though like men here. No, that only happens with things that are difficult to change like height, financial/social status, facial structure... And for women those bitter complaints happen in their 30s when they've waited too long to settle down and are shocked (shocked, I tell you!) that men their age want women younger than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 01:13 PM
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Most women do not have one night stands. Where did I mention one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 10:32 AM
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If only this were true. There'd be a lot more nice beta guys getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:47 PM
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I think they want to believe biology can be overcome by ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 10:47 PM
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You've said this word implication a few times now. What implication?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 03:33 PM
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Not sure if a pun or genuine...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 03:32 PM
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This is a poor example. A better one would be the mob in Brazil who lynched a guy who looked like a man a woman said raped her, or the mobs in India and South Africa who mete out vigilante justice. Heck, I'd agree if a man's career is affected or he loses his home and family due to a false accusation. But this is about a cop who had PTSD firing at an unarmed man. This is really about the poor psychological treatment cops receive after experiencing incredibly high rates of violence. War vets suff…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/19 02:04 PM
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feminism is a response to men controlling female sexuality and choice. Feminism existed so women could have equal rights, like inheriting property that they could not before. They also wanted to enter the workforce and get equal pay for equal work. Those were critical issues at the time. The 'controlling female sexuality' part came a bit later when women wanted to be more promiscuous without feeling judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 10:43 PM
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There are two problems with your view. The first is the assumption that women are okay with men becoming more feminized. They are not. Women desire aggressive even dangerous men. They're not off fucking men who think and act like women. Secondly, women seem to believe there's this future out there that will be highly civilised and more cultured due to their influence, forgetting who the drivers of technological and cultural innovation are. Men are. And at every point when there's been innovation…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 01:05 PM
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Josephus was proven as a fraud. And Pliny mentions a Christ, not a specific person. Jesus is myth. He is the latest in a line of solar messiahs. That or there is a massive coincidence of saviours being born on December 25th to virgins, dying and being resurrected after three days. Others who the same happened to are: Horus Mithras Dionysus Krishna (similar in name to Christ) If you believe that Jesus existed, you have to believe they all did. Here's a list you can look at: https://thinkerfromiow…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 08:36 AM
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It happens both ways. If an older man marries a younger (7 years or more) woman, women his age call it gross. If you're happy with your partner, that's all that should count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 08:21 AM
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Men are truly pathetic, one of my biggest disappointments was to find out just to what extent. Hey, at least men have kept their baby and unborn baby kill count lower than women's. Men tend to kill those who aren't completely defenseless. And even then, it's a fraction of the number of defenseless kids killed by women. Humans are pretty pathetic at their worst, especially when they hold power over others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 08:19 AM
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For men this is as good as it gets, or worse. Women don't realise how difficult it is to find someone willing to just be there with them. They often have to choose between loneliness, which can lead to depression, or being miserable but not alone. It's not easy. Broadly speaking, though. It would be better to be alone than constantly fighting or in misery. But even someone who makes you miserable offers some intimacy at times and some emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 12:55 AM
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the original church that was founded by Jesus and from which all other churches are offshoots. Jesus didn't establish the church as you know it today. He just told people to spread the gospel. The Catholic Church was established with political and financial motivations in mind. Jesus also did not exist. There were multiple historians living in the area at the same time he is supposed to have walked on water, turned water into wine or fed man people with bread and fish. Not one of them mentions t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 04:02 PM
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That's not what the study says. Despite repeated replies to this, the women who message all men are so statistically insignificant, they are exceptions. No man can sit and wait for a woman to message. His inbox will be empty. If you want to test this yourself, make a fake account with an average man's profile. No six pack abs. He must be slightly overweight to overweight. No six figure salary. He is probably just starting a career or is studying. No model looks. Thos one is obvious, but women's …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 03:40 PM
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Well done on being exceptions to the rule. Now about what OP is talking about, maybe we can encourage more women to not be as shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 07:58 AM
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OP please post the rest of that and link it. Hubby studies at law school then goes on to make 4 times as much as his wife then she backtracks on her original agreement. Her reasoning? It's not fair that he can buy what he wants while she has to save up. But this was her system to begin with. Women don't want to support men. They want to be supported by men. They don't want equal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:52 AM
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When people used to start their married lives together young without established careers yet, the men were still expected to act mature like an adult, being a cheetoh eating porn watching vidya playing man child would not get you an attractive wife willing to invest in your future together. It's a feesback loop. There's no incentive for him to try when the bar is so high. But as for maturity, you've got to realise that every argument claiming men refuse to grow up never acknowledges women's imma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:39 AM
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Either find a woman from a different culture (I did!) or be honest about what you want. If you are honest it will keep potential manipulators at bay. But be willing to compromise and/or stand by your convictions so if you're alone it's okay. With all that money, though, you could travel a bit and meet someone else!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:32 AM
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At least Chinese men are smart enough to know that they should be saving money from the start of their very first job, unlike American men. That's because the women refuse to marry unless he can afford a house. But housing prices in major cities are ridiculous. The men are also rather emasculated and don't stand up to their wives who tend to control the purse strings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:29 AM
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Sure but women drive consumerism (this is not new or secret information). They spend more than men and also get into huge debt. It happens to men too but not to the same degree. All that pollution from China exists because they're making clothes and shoes for pennies to sell it to westerners for hundreds or thousands of dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:27 AM
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The issue is that of culture. Americans believe consumerism is part of their culture when it's something corporations have tacked onto your quality of life. In other words, living a good life means working hard and spending your money. That's a terrible trap and has led to tons of debt. Americans are so used to debt you need a credit rating to buy something cash. Women drive consumerism with their spending and have more demands from men the older they get. This insecurity on their part has led t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:23 AM
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Now at 20 I'm still no chad but I do ok for myself Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You're still a kid! JFC. It's great you found RP, but boy there are a ton of surprises waiting for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:53 PM
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Yes but women wanted better or equal access to financial empowerment. Men then shared their workplaces and money they made (men made the money for that company to exist) so women could empower themselves financially. Women have avoided discussions on equal sexual access for men. This can come in the form of a solution to a dead bedroom, for example. Me, who have a different sexual strategy, dare not propose that they seek sexual intimacy elsewhere or an angry woman enters the conversation and sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:38 PM
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Lots of our parents refused to divorce and should have and we're all gunshy as fuck Shit. This probably raised every child's awareness of how to avoid a bad marriage ten fold. I know a few people, men and women, who just refuse to marry because their parents stayed married and were miserable when they should have split up. Even the kids wished for them to get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:33 PM
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Well done on being an exception. Now, please tell the other 99% of women to think along the same lines and then we can put this issue to bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:28 PM
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It directly affects women's sexual strategy if they want to have kids. Again, they are missing the point of what you're saying. You were stating the obvious. Personally, I understand but women need to be willing to compromise or else those kids aren't going to happen anyway. Men are also not exactly thrilled they're being selected to pick up the check as opposed to being selected because women desire them. But they are saying that wanting kids is actually harmful to the environment so we should …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:26 PM
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Yep. The irony is that they'd be called losers for complaining about it. Do women believe all men are just absolutely crushing it at work, socially or in relationships that they're just being assholes for not marrying them? Do they believe men who struggle in the SMP to be the exception rather than the rule? These men aren't struggling by choice. How does insulting the very people you're trying to marry get them interested in you? It's like the very notion of basic respect is foreign to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:21 PM
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Once again, blame men. They're not measuring up. Poor women are suffering because men aren't earning enough. But women with poor attitudes towards men, who are heavily in debt, single moms or are just terrible partners? Nope they're okay. Women should never have to change for men's benefit. For every woman happy that there are unattractive men who are not bothering with the market, there are men happy that women are finally experiencing the harsh reality of dating: compromise! No one gets what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 11:00 PM
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Men don't owe you shit and are under no obligation to quit. They are more concerned about their safety and wellbeing than what you feel entitled to. You don't like it? Start your own company or work hard enough to get into a leadership position. You are not entitled to promotions or even mentorship because you feel you're owed a hand up.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 03:35 PM
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Maybe this will give you some perspective: https://www.boredpanda.com/social-experiment-guy-created-fake-tinder-profile-hot-model-pictures-germanlifter/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:16 PM
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He’s like a millionaire telling a poor person they’re just to lazy to be rich. Attractive people live in a bubble. And because heterosexual men don't really see other men as attractive or unattractive, they don't see why some men are having problems or are frustrated. They just go up to talk to women and succeed. They then tell other lesser attractive men to do the same and have few answers when it doesn't work. People tend not to talk about this type of privilege because it would make women esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 03:14 PM
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Women send a message and expect a response. They then complain men are the problem when men are sending hundreds of messages and getting nothing. There's tons of evidence on the dataisbeautiful sub regarding this but, once again, it's those asshole men who aren't giving women a shot when they finally approach. Do women genuinely have no idea what rejection means? Are they not emotionally mature enough to accept rejection? You're not always going to get the person you want after one try. You may …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:49 AM
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Of course they don't. But women's arguments almost always hinge on men changing for women's benefit, but men accepting women as they are without requiring women to change. The SMP exemplifies this. Women want to marry the General but aren't bothered with the Lieutenant. That's to their own detriment. There's also something called entitlement. If the best you can get is someone that annoys you, you cannot change them but you can adjust your own attitude. And dead bedrooming your partner is just d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:45 AM
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Someone who gets it. Wasting your time until you're 30 means half of the people your age are married. The good ones are taken young. A woman can hop off the CC at 25 and still find someone. But so often they wait or become single moms and then want a stable, decent man when it's a bit late. The men who are attractive enough at 30 and who are single, want someone who is younger and child free. It is still possible to find a good man in your thirties, but then you cannot have the same standards as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 04:19 AM
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He has a lot of mana. He leads the hunting parties. He crafts the best stone axes. Whatever. Hopefully he levels up on his next raid and can bring back even more loot! I jest but you are right here. Resources are limited and it's in our nature to manage what little we have in some way. Women are going to think of themselves and the kids. Men are going to think of women and the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/19 12:47 AM
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Thank you. Finally someone gets it. Just this week a woman was bludgeoned to death by a man working at the post office in South Africa. The country is up in arms about violence against women and children, which is good. But of the 20 000 people who were murdered last year in SA, 4 000 were women and children. The other 16 000 don't seem to matter because they were poor black men. We should be up in arms about all violence against everyone. Men, women and children deserve better. We are all human…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 11:57 PM
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None. As if women had no agency and yeast infections justify poor decision-making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:27 PM
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Sucks when the best interests of the child argument hurts women too, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:06 PM
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again, so. the boy in this story chose to bang a 20 yo Ha! I'd love to see the same argument if it was a girl. 'She chose to sleep with a 20 year old. She deserves to be a parent against her will.'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 02:04 PM
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And yet these women still desire marriage the older they get. I doubt very much those are single women in their 40s and 50s who are childless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 12:38 PM
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Your daughter is going to be the one to suffer, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/19 12:36 PM
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All i'm thinking is "that's why they didn't want to sleep with you in the first place" No one tells them this until it's too late. And as you pointed out, women don't like nice guys. So why does nearly every woman in his life try to reinforce 'good guy' behaviour his entire life? Is it fair to lie to someone but expect them to see through the lie? Is it fair to humiliate them for not seeing through the lie when people they trusted lied to them their whole lives? The thing is when RP first arrive…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 10:47 PM
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When she thinks being an entitled bitch means she's strong and independent. "If you can't handle me at my worst...". As if you'd ever experience anything but the worst. Women use this as an excuse not to be better people. When she treats service staff poorly. When she acts like an entitled princess and expects men to give her what she wants. When she's a single mom with more than one kid. One is perhaps a mistake. Two or three mean you don't care for your children's wellbeing. When she needs att…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:58 PM
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He answered it as best he could. And why is wanting to do something you've never done before a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 02:00 PM
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Sure. But even porn stars and strippers retire at some point. I've not seen many single 40 year olds still looking to hook up instead of settle down. Most women feel the desire to marry in their 30s. You may be the exception to the rule but you're not with the same man for a long time even if he's a boyfriend. Being a hoe makes it easy to get men into bed, but finding Mr Right - a man you find attractive and won't be put off by your past - who is a family man is going to need more work than just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 10:42 AM
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They could date 10+ years older, date religious communities like the Mormons or Evangelicals, or date a man from a family oriented culture in Europe or Latin America. There are options. Culture is a huge issue here. They won't fit in mostly because modern western women don't understand restraint. They call it 'oppression'. So a a family-orientated man is going to expect his wife to be a wife and not a party girl or a career-minded woman. The women they marry are happy to follow his lead and be m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/19 10:27 AM
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He wouldn't because the law is on her side. If he even touches her in self defense she can claim he harrassed or abused her. This is what OP means. We claim there is a power imbalance in men's favour, then use that to justify abuse and harassment towards men. In actual fact, all a woman, especially a celebrity, has to do is allege some form of abuse and the media, social media and feminists would be in her corner. He'd have almost no recourse unless he had enough evidence to prove otherwise. For…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 10:48 PM
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Their point is that if women were objectified the same way, no one would stand for it. We shouldn't be more okay with it because of the perception that women's objectification is less threatening. If women cannot abide by the same rules they want men to abide by, they are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 10:36 PM
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In the US I would say it depends on the area you are in terms of how feminist it is. The US has feminists advising, creating and changing academic policies, laws and influencing the media. Those are huge areas of society that affect millions. It's not as simple as saying you should go live in a non feminist area when you cannot escape the law. The Duluth model and title IX violations are due to feminism. Billions in taxpayer money and donations goes towards domestic violence shelters for women b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 10:34 PM
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Yep. It's even got non-feminist women sucked in. They also fall for the sexual liberation line then wonder why Chad never sticks around. Apparently, being pumped and dumped is the worst thing ever, but never bad enough that she'll stop seeking out non committed sex. Sometimes I wonder if women actually enjoy sabotaging themselves for victimhood status. At least some of them enjoy the drama and sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 11:05 PM
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dick will not fill that void. Depends how big and how deep the void is. You're going to get contrasting views. The women here say that sex is not validating, but sexual freedom is empowering. But sexual freedom also means being able to choose to be more selective and chaste. Women hardly ever talk about it in that context. It's usually done as a way to justify hooking up with hot guys in a party atmosphere. It's nothing more than glorified hedonism. The same women then seek sympathy when they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 12:36 PM
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We'd have to change the economy to fix this problem. That's not going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:58 PM
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I think they believe it can be used as some form of coercion or manipulation (we can date if you don't sign!) But you're 100% right. Get his stance beforehand or when you start having sex. They should have the courage of their convictions. It also has a positive effect of weeding out women looking to have a man finance her single motherhood. There is a significant chunk of women who aren't trying to be moms at 19 so they would be okay with a man saying he doesn't want to be responsible for child…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:54 PM
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I always wondered why some countries have such extreme laws to control the population. I realised it's because the government has no faith that it's own people will do the right thing. If you leave women to unrestrain their sexuality, you get single motherhood destabilizing society. If men unrestrain theirs, you get polygamy (which women are okay with culturally speaking, look at Africa and the middle East) but a bunch of men without wives. Either way, we made a compromise: monogamy and marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:16 AM
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This would be fine if obese women were not getting laid today but they are having more sex than obese men. There's a statistic that the thinner and more beautiful a woman is, the lower her partner count. There is no BBM porn, for example. What you are suggesting would mean women would be free to be as fat as they want while requiring men to be in shape. Even overweight women overlook overweight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:10 AM
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Yes it's about opting out but you cannot expect people to just disable their feelings by declaring they will change their lifestyle. Furthermore, they also raise issues with others so they are aware of the problems men face. That cannot be done without involving a mixture of problems regarding society and women. I am sure you'd love for them to quietly just vanish, as would most women, but being a MGTOW doesn't mean being silent about societal wide issues. But as much as they swear off women, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:07 AM
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The problem is that, due to women's preferences, the bottom rung is very, very low down while there's a huge gap between it and the next rung. Most men are at that bottom rung. Men see the gaping chasm and think it's just not worth it trying to make the leap. Maybe they are lucky and one woman lowers the ladder a bit more to make it easier but men have realised there's a party among the top rungs they will probably never get invited to, so why bother? I don't think all of them give up but enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:56 PM
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They were so good at not getting laid, they saw the signs and just quit. They then became...er... voltcells volcels?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 11:34 PM
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Yes they do. Until they fuck up. You may trust your partner and it may not be misplaced. But so did all the people who dated someone who cheated and gave them a STI. It's one thing to trust, but having a 'it won't happen to me' mentality is really naïve. Protecting yourself is not the same as not trusting anyone. It's having healthy boundaries, especially when the consequences could be life altering. Do you genuinely believe teenagers/young adults always make healthy decisions regarding sex? As …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:12 PM
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Not using a condom when having sex with someone you're not at least married to is like driving without a seatbelt. There's no guarantee a young woman is going to marry the first man she has sex with. Also, the rates of sexlessness among men is decreasing but not for women, which means women are fucking the same guys. What guarantee is there that she's not going to get an STI when she may not even be with the guy next week and he's onto the next one, having unprotected sex? And if he's hot enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 04:04 PM
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If you're clean you can't transmit an STI you don't have. If you're monogamous and loyal then that worry is gone. That's lovely. But the condoms are for her protection. All he has to do is fuck one girl with STIs and then she's got it too. It's not like she'll know he cheated beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:55 PM
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Sounds like he got a keeper:) Like for goals or wickets?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 02:52 PM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! breathes in Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! wipes away tears Take your damn upvote and get out of here. Damn that was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 02:39 PM
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Unenthusiastic sex isn't done with love. It's done to just 'get it over with'. Picture this. You want to go on holiday but your partner isn't feeling it. They agree but you can see they're not happy about it. The entire trip they're quiet, grumpy and just not in the mood. Everytime you explore or find something new, they react with indifference and cannot even crack a smile. Should you be grateful for their presence? I've known couples who'd get into fights over this. You're either into it or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 02:36 PM
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Most of these answers are sanitised, generic responses. The same shit men have repeatedly said is the poor advice they get but doesn't work. They don't want to date nice guys but they want their sons to be nice guys. They're setting them up for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 05:17 AM
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But I'd like him to be a lot like my bf, kind, genuine, hard-working, honest, upstanding, responsible, and caring. According to OP's link, that's not what most women want from men. He'd be holding out for a woman like his mom but would find it rather difficult to do so when he's in his late teens, early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 05:15 AM
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What about personality traits? Would you want him to be respectful or would you not care if he's an asshole? What about drugs or alcohol? What about an education, exercise, hobbies? All the stuff you raise him with is what he takes with him and values. Like, what kind of man would you want him to be for his partner? You would be able to give him the female perspective and help him understand what he would need to do and be to be a good partner. Those are things parents teach their kids whether t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 05:12 AM
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That doesn't change anyone's sexual strategy. The second he commits he gives his up and hers wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:20 AM
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You can't "hold out" if you are inexperienced. It's like you didn't read the thread. I was replying to someone who questioned whether giving every partner they date the best sex is a good idea when they are capable of doing so. It's like you didn't read the thread to get context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:18 AM
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The earnings aren't important. It's the self improvement aspect they mean. Don't make having women the focus of your life. That's how I understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:15 AM
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Where do people get this idea that the only thing that matters is the kid having it all? The kid is just another member of the family, not some god that everyone must drop everything else to service 24/7 Women here use the 'best interests of the child' argument when men are negatively affected by a woman's infidelity and paternity fraud. They have even argued about why men wouldn't want to take care of a poor, innocent child. But apparently when mom is affected, suddenly the best interests of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/19 03:13 AM
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There's a simpler solution. Hit them where it hurts: their pockets. You get one chance. If you have more than one kid out of wedlock, you pay a fine. Then later on make it so anyone who has a kid without a proper support structure has to pay a fine or do public service, such as working in an old age home or an orphanage. Currently we're incentivising it by 'supporting' single motherhood instead of incentivising families. Change the incentive and you'll change the behavior. Reward them for formin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:59 PM
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Women complain constantly that they have to live up to unrealistic standards, so sure. But it's just an umbrella and some water. It's not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:07 PM
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Obnoxious is not the same as toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity would be if he harmed himself and others in the name of maintaining his masculine ego. Some rain isn't the worst. I've seen plenty of people, men and women, walk in the rain without one intentionally or not. Yesterday there was a storm that I thought was a passing shower. I got out my umbrella but the rain wasn't super heavy yet. Men and women without an umbrella kept strolling even when they had opportunities for cover or to buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:05 PM
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You Americans are into some freaky stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 12:57 PM
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You notice how men didn't try to become better partners, they just blamed women for doing the same dirty deeds they did. No, they were chivalrous and did what they were told would work and it didn't. Most men today in fact believe in an egalitarian relationship. They don't believe in limiting women to their gender roles and millennials split the chores down the middle and even try to save the environment while supporting equality on multiple fronts. What men realised is they were lied to. The ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 05:15 AM
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Willing to message vs actually messaging are different things. As are matching, meeting and the rating they gave the men. Considering they found only 20% above average, messaging someone 'below average' in her mind could still be a guy in the top 25 or 30%. That's still quite harsh. Also, the sub dataisbeautiful has plenty of case studies of men's and women's experiences of online dating. Women match at a far higher rate than men and still get dates out of the deal. They're not being altruistic …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 04:33 AM
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Overweight ugly women have higher n counts than thinner, more attractive women. In fact, the prettier they are the more chaste they are because they tend not to use sex as a tool to try to get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 04:24 AM
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You have been redpilled. The previous agreement between men and women was that they would both suppress their sexuality to maintain a relationship. These days, hypergamy is pretty much unrestrained but men's sexuality is, IF they enter a relationship. Hence the red pill's view that marriage isn't worth it. They'd be giving up their sexual strategy for women's benefit primarily and they don't want to as long as women continue to have theirs catered to first. You don't have to bother with a short …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 04:23 AM
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Yeah it's ancient. Good example of a woman trying to avoid the consequences of her poor decisions, though.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 03:25 AM
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But she is responsible for the situation she created I see they deleted their posts but this is it right here. Single moms are mad that they cannot have their cake and eat it too. Well no one gets to. And no one forced them to be single moms. They chose this without considering the consequences and now want to complain that life is too hard. Well no shit it's hard to be a single mom. This is not some secret hidden from women. We've known about this since forever and implemented a system to negat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:23 AM
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So married people who are together should not have a separate identity apart from being parents either? Yes but they have prepared and planned far more than a single mom who will not have the time or resources to have an identity. This is less an issue of whether women are entitled to a separate identity and more about whether it's feasible and responsible. If you are a single mom, your priority is your kids. If you're at a club trying to pick up a man instead of being at home taking care of you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:16 AM
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However, if you view sex as more of a positive or nourishing act, something beautiful that brings two people closer, you might find the garden analogy more useful and be convinced that the more the merrier.. If we can grow more crops that provide for more people, why is that a bad thing? Again, it just depends on how your OWN perceptions of sex have been shaped in your lifetime. You're right. But the problem is that women are the gatekeepers of sex. We cannot get around that. In your plant analo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:08 AM
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Most women are not feminists, especially in the bedroom I've met more feminists who want to be dominated and degraded in the bedroom than any other woman. They even feel guilty about how misogynistic it is! Freud woulda had a field day with modern feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:50 AM
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Right, and then that relationship doesn’t work out for whatever reason, rinse and repeat and according to some guys any number higher than 0 is apparently a dealbreaker. If you're holding out your best sex for a better man, why should he be his best for you? Not appealing to him could be part of the reason it doesn't work out. As for the partner count greater than zero, it's hyperbole. What men are saying is don't be a slut in your youth, having casual sex with dozens of men, then fuck your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:44 AM
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True but I think guys are a bit forgiving if she's honest and doesn't dial the sex down to zero after he commits. A woman can be good after two or three partners instead of 50 or 100. It's not that hard to learn what men want without being a slut. Bringing enthusiasm, confidence and not being afraid to be sexy for your partner are often enough for a man. Or, as my deluded friend used to tell women he met 'Watch some porn!' He had a tendency to date the worst kind of women who had ridiculous N co…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:40 AM
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Yeah but even with the data, they still deny it. There's just no good reason for an average man to bother with things like OLD. He will have better luck meeting women at social events, even if dating is still heavily in women's favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:29 AM
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That's actually a well known phenomenon. It's been known since before then. We only recently (last 30 years) have been able to gather and talk about these things. And women are not happy men know the truth because it isn't flattering. To be fair, though, it's not as intense as George experienced because it is a sitcom and will exaggerare a bit. But my friends and I noticed that when you have someone, women find you far easier to be around almost like you are safe? That could also be why some wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 02:28 AM
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Bandwidth is the issue here. A pic is small and easy to upload. Having to host video files, which could include anything from an introduction all the way to pornography is going to eat server resources. They want to cut costs and keep you swiping. If you pause to watch this 30 second clip or that one minute video, it slows everything down when you could have swiped on more people, especially when 99999999999 users all flock to Stacey and Chad's profiles. OLD sucks because it is commercialised cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:29 AM
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I think the fuck bitches part means reject them as an insult, not sleep with them. That's how I understood it how it was used initially. It was telling men not to make women a priority and to instead focus on their career and self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 01:21 AM
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Maybe she wasn't as hot as she thot thought she was. I guarantee if she was banging some guys all day and all night she wouldn't feel an ounce of guilt. She is really just mad she's not getting as much out the deal as her boyfriend.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 12:37 AM
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It's actually to protect you guys and the sub. If members here started brigading other subs, it would harm the sub's reputation and potentially get it banned. This isn't to say that they don't deserve to be called out for their shit, but the mods cannot trust that everyone here won't head into another sub to cause shit. On the plus side, some of the screenshots show the sub's name or hint at it so it's not too difficult to track down. But this one in particular is a bit old.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/08/19 12:35 AM
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Thankfully, it never happened to me, but there were boys in middle and high school who jizzed their pants from hugs or who had a thing for the teacher and had to hide raging boners in class. It happens to the best of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 10:20 AM
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So, erm, got any studies to back up your opinions and to counter OP's studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:52 AM
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And women will actually be empowered by taking responsibility for their choices, not by hiding behind being helpless childlike victims. This is it. They swear high and low they're strong and independent but suddenly have no agency because the hot guy was a player. No shit. If you like him, he's probably fucking half his social circle already. But what really gets ridiculous is when men tell them to protect themselves to avoid victimhood and they're suddenly not responsible for their poor choices…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:49 AM
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I actually agree with you, I want the guy that's willing to steal FOR me, not the guy that steals FROM me, ya dig? Then why do women lie about wanting this? Just say you want men to treat everyone like shit. But then is it fair to complain when the consequences spill over into your life and you get hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:40 AM
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Apparently, the results of these studies suggest that this population is commonly called, "women." What should really get to women is their belief they're strong and independent. Then when men warn them about, say, getting drunk in front of strangers, they insist that's not the problem. And yet, in this thread, women are admitting that they are vulnerable to manipulation. So are they hoping for a gentle, nice manipulator or can they genuinely not be trusted to ensure their own safety?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:38 AM
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social conditioning Women have agency. They are as much to blame for this. They are part of society too. Example, we breed animals with certain traits to get better offspring. We even do it with plants. Why would humans be any different? So what happens when the sexual selectors (women) primarily select for dangerous men? Is it any wonder these dangerous men keep getting selected when this has been an ongoing issue? Therefore women's complaints that men are violent can be seen as a form of ideal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:35 AM
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These studies seem to talk about these kind of men having more luck with sex and dating. It doesn’t say much about long term or about the kind of women they’re dating/sleeping with Problem is if you're not attracting them, it's harder to get to the LTR part. You might be excellent LTR material, but if no one wants to sleep with you or even see you naked, your LTR traits will be wasted. No matter what women say about desiring stable men for LTRs, their desire for more violent, aggressive and mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:30 AM
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If you care about quantity over quality, then yeah, being dark triad pays off. This doesn't address the fact that these men get more romantic attention than less violent, more stable, less manipulative men. There's little incentive for a man to care about more than 'what works'. If the best way to get a woman interested is to beat the shit out of someone else, why be lonely for years waiting for women to realise your value?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:23 AM
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Yep. Whether someone is abusing you because they were abused or because they like hurting others doesn't change that they're abusive. A man being more 'responsive' doesn't change the fact that he's a manipulative asshole and there's no way these women did not know they were assholes. Women here claim they'd spot RP guys out in the wild and avoid them like the plague, but they're fucking the same guys RP says get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 06:21 AM
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The gym. Hobby clubs. Sports clubs. Gaming or technology conventions. Universities and colleges (the few who do attend). Male dominated jobs.
/r/RedPillWomen25/08/19 12:30 AM
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Don't have internet idols like you, sorry You were the one who claimed she said stuff she didn't. An ad hominem attack is not going to cover up for that. Either learn to read properly and do more than write sarcastic comments on a debate forum or don't bother because your argument cannot be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:00 AM
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Atlas, I think when you write stuff it's like a different language to people so they see things that don't exist. That and PPD posters refuse to buy you a drink before putting weird things, like words, in your mouth...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 02:04 PM
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This is the point. They don't have to be perfect, but being honest about who you are is the least you can do. It's also a good filter for future partners. If he's grossed out, move on, he's not right for you. If he isn't, then you have someone who is willing to accept you as you are. Women are acting like it's okay to hide their past but would they trust someone who hides things from them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:11 AM
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Who says women are lying. I wouldn’t want my SO to tell me about all his past partners because I don’t give a shit about his past partners. I expect my so to treat me with the same respect and trust So, you have no idea how he treated them, have no references, nothing? You're going in blind expecting him to just be nice regardless of his past? He could have cheated on each one, abandoned a few kids along the way, smacked a few girlfriends around and you wouldn't want to know any of that, right? …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:07 AM
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Ah, yes. I should be living my life in ways that men find acceptable. Let me just get a lobotomy about it. Women: I should be able to live my life how I want, free of the consequences if my choices. I should be able to do the things men find unattractive and still have men I like be interested in me. Men: I don't find sluts great LTR material. I also have preferences, much like you do. Women: Stop judging me! You don't have to live your life according to what anyone else finds acceptable. But wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:58 PM
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if drugs are illegal, why do them? XD You're comparing drugs to behavior the opposite sex doesn't like...very different things. if downloading movies is illegal, why do it? Downloading movies isn't illegal. Not paying for them is. Also, countries like China don't have copyright laws. But again, no one's going to reject you for downloading a movie nor are you going to be kicked out of a movie theatre when they discover your piracy. Different things. women do it because they like sex but dont want…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:19 PM
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Social status. He still gets some attention by playing to a small crowd. That and good looks. An overweight and unattractive man is not going to pull the same amount of ass as the dude on the left, all else being equal. There's also what I call 'Nurse Syndrome' where women like to fix broken (but hot) men because the danger and excitement of not knowing what will happen next keeps them intrigued. The dude on the right will still get laid no matter what the ladies here say. Never seen a bodybuild…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:56 PM
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According to women here, they need to hear his voice first. But I've never met a body builder who struggled to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 02:50 PM
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That's why the "gAmEr GiRl" stereotype was born. Men still don't believe that most female gamers are there for the games and not for the attention. It's sad, though. My SO absolutely loves competitive games.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 12:09 PM
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Right. Around half of my high school graduated as virgins. That's more the exception than the rule. The average age of virginity loss is about 17. In my country, girls lose it at like 16 on average and men at 18. Keep in mind this is the average. There are people fucking from way younger and some way older, and people will lie in self reported surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:48 AM
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because we know u guys are weird about n-counts ;) If you know men don't like it, why do it? This is like a player hiding his past because 'women are weird about it'. No, they aren't weird, they are concerned and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 11:44 AM
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Yes a fun night for women can be being flirty and feminine at the club or chilling with her book club. Women enjoy both types of activities — social and “tangible.” Yes but the previous poster was highlighting the sexualised environment when women get dolled up and go out. For example, women complain about the male gaze and being objectified then, as per your OP, spend tons of time and money to get men to look at them. It's contradictory, like trying to look left and right at the same time while…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:43 AM
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Is there really a disconnect? I think women understand just fine, it’s just that there is nothing we can really do about it unfortunately. Yes, yes you can. Women aren't powerless in this scenario. In fact, they have the most power in the SMP. Women are the choosers. Women don't want to be pumped and dumped but they have tons of casual sex despite claiming they want a LTR. A solution is for women to be more circumspect when dating and have little to no casual sex, or to be more open to dating do…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:40 AM
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Pre-drinking with the girls while doing your makeup and dancing to the black eyed peas in your underwear. I remember girls in university who were already so drunk by 10 pm that I had to do their liquid eyeliner for them! From the way women discuss things here like having to do their make up and spending money on outfits, you'd swear this was a heavy burden and not fun at all! I guess they must have been exaggerating...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 11:45 PM
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Oh no! Don't use the truth! They hate the truth. It doesn't fit into their agenda. Like when feminists wanted to push the narrative in Australia that domestic violence is the result of misogyny, the World Health Organisation nailed them with the truth: poverty, mental illness and substance abuse play bigger roles than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:58 PM
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No I don't. I claim that they are completely different things. If a woman "beats" a man as hard as she can, he can get up and walk away. If a man does the same, she'd be dead. Have you seen when humans abuse dangerous animals? Do you think that just because an elephant has been smacked around it's acceptable even if it could kill it's abuser? Regardless, if a child attacks an adult, even if the adult could kill the child, it's not an acceptable way to treat another human being. Yes, being beaten…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:45 PM
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Men also buy and sell girls for sex. Protection, my ass. Subjugation is more like it. You've clearly never been to the Middle East where women actively support the subjugation of other women, homosexuals and even enjoy the benefits of slave labour, mostly done by darker skinned men and women. There are also the women involved in pedophilia rings (this is a big one), madams who run brothels, and your good ole fashioned hate groups, such as religious extremists, white supremacists and Neo Nazis. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 03:36 PM
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Yes, that's usually the case. You get a certain number of victims before the guy gets caught. I cannot imagine a man raping hundreds or thousands of women and not getting caught before he's reached even 100. That's serial rapist territory and like half of rapes are done when alcohol is involved, such as a date gone bad. Read more here: https://www.thefix.com/alcohol-and-rape-prosecutions-consent-intoxication-and-memory Quote: At least half of all rapes in the United States involve alcohol consum…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:44 PM
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how much do all of those various "less than 1%s" add up to? because 1/100 people haveing a propensity to violence is not insignificant. i encounter 100 people in a day alone. I mean, the majority of prisoners are black. Are you going to insist on special protection against black people because more of them are criminals than white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:28 PM
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Men, not so much... I think this is what men are trying to point out. OP's entire point is 'look how bad men are' but men aren't denying that. In fact, men argue that women live fucking assholes on here all the damn time. Women deny it and conveniently ignore their shit when they point this out. We know men aren't angels, but fucking be honest about your shit too. Don't ignore the domestic violence, child abuse, abandonment and assault that women commit. Stop giving them 60% less prison time for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:23 PM
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Bullshit. You've never seen a woman get rejected. That shit goes very quickly to 'are you gay?' Or 'are you cheating on me?'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:11 PM
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They generally tend not to. I've never met a man who has laughed at a woman who had to jump out of a window to avoid getting attacked or who was raped or beaten. A man gets kicked in the balls, raped in prison or even beaten by his wife is the subject of comedy due to the fucked up belief that men either deserve it or their being stronger and more powerful means they're being brought down to size. Seriously, go tell people a story about a woman being attacked by her partner or being sexually ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:07 PM
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One guy was on a TV show I saw where he was talking about how he was sleeping with a married woman but he didn't know. Hubby came home so he had to jump from a few floors up and got injured. The crowd laughed but the presenter shut them up by saying he suffered and if it was a woman no one would say anything. Do yourself a favour and tell some feminist leaning folks about women who chopped their partners' penises off. After they laugh, tell them an equally funny story of a woman who was raped wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 02:01 PM
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Plenty of young girls realize the absolute destruction a single word from them can bring. I read a story about a guy who worked at an elite girls' school. He couldn't touch the students, could not walk up the stairs if they were ahead and if a girl grabbed his tie, he couldn't defend himself to get it back. He'd just shuffle in a circle when they did and he'd try to awkwardly reprimand them. It sounds like reverse Sharia law. Women want to believe that controlling men's behavior will work but al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:56 PM
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You're also forgetting that for all the shit men get for existing, they get next to no credit for all the good they've done. No one thanks dad for the work he does. "Mmm this water and electricity sure is awesome! This roof over my head really is nice! That school, this highway, the internet, those policemen, firemen and soldiers who saved our lives...thanks, men!" Instead it's almost exclusively about how shitty they are. Women who defend the 'we're not as dangerous as men' ignore the stats on …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/19 01:34 PM
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He was telling you that it's an option but only if you're hot enough to keep him interested. He even suggested you stay away from men who are attractive enough to possibly plate you. It's very male centric, which isn't bad, but may get you hurt if you're looking for more than sex. I agree with the ladies here and the other guy actually touched on this. If you're going to try a LTR, being a plate is not a good idea unless you're the best thing that's ever happened to him. Hence the high risk, hig…
/r/RedPillWives21/08/19 11:13 PM
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Just didn’t really care. I like the video though and I’m amazed women had the insight to create it It happens. Like you get guys saying shit like 'women aren't women anymore' then just not bothering to date. They realise the juice ain't worth the squeeze. Another one is when guys take responsibility and realise their shitty relationships are their own making. This is ironic because women swear high and low they don't need a man but quietly pleasure themselves to thoughts of Chad absolutely destr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/19 11:04 PM
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However, this same man wants women to help fix the "damage she caused". Technically, that's not a red pill position. Red pill's is 'enjoy the decline'. As for the rest of your post, go ask your female friends which men they dated the longest or fucked the most. Then look at their personalities. You'll probably find that a sensitive man better have money to keep her from running for the hills. You're also missing something important: men do not express their emotions like women. Aside from the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 09:07 PM
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I was shocked while reading the large amount of online comments from men who say they would commit rape if they could completely get away with it, I was wondering if most men would really do this. Men would take having access to sex than not. But you've also got to realise most women have rape fantasies. If we are to assume those women desire being ravished, there are men who would definitely not mind doing the ravishing. You also have to keep in mind that those men who imagine raping or ravishi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 06:35 PM
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Men don't redpill men. Women do!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 01:30 AM
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women can choose to change it whenever they want to. I do believe men can demand better from women but only women can change. There seems to be a growing trend of conservativism among the youth but that could also be growing sexlessness among men but not women.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/19 01:19 AM
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and yet, we don't see many women telling the younger ones to not fall for the meme. That they wasted the best and most fertile years of their lives being pumped and dumped. I disagree. They post the warning all the time to younger women. But it comes off as the Rally Cry of their gender 'Where have all the good men gone?' The younger women don't recognise it for what it is. The older women even write articles online and lament leaving good men to chase tingles. But it's hardly ever done as a for…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/08/19 01:17 AM
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You’re defining attractive behaviors as “asshole character”. You’re moralizing reality instead of living in it. This is remarkable you’re actually doing exactly what I said in the OP. This lack of awareness is something else. Women's attraction to Dark Triad (asshole) traits is well known. Women love to fuck assholes. Pretty gay imo :/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 01:08 AM
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To women of certain low socioeconomic groups. So we should just write off the experience of a huge chunk of the population because 'they're poor'? They want protection as they grew up in rough neighborhoods. Bullshit. They want excitement. Excitement in a rough neighbourhood is going to look a lot more chaotic and violent coming from a rough neighbourhood. But poor women desire the same thing wealthier women do: excitement. The red pill always conveniently neglects to mention this and tries to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/19 01:06 AM
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I almost feel sorry for these women. Almost. Some of them don't know any better and many are at the whim of their tingles, much like thirsty men keep scraping the bottom of the barrel hoping the next one will actually put out. But whenever a woman enters an epiphany phase, it's almost always when they stand to lose something. Usually the white picket fence and the duty-bound slave beta who has to finance her lifestyle choice, and who gets duty sex once a month. It's hardly ever as a result of he…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/19 05:10 PM
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I think what the previous poster is talking about is risk. You cannot claim to be a free, independent, strong person then fear half the population on speculation alone. You could extend this to other risks: do I cross the road knowing some people get run over? Do I walk down this dark alley at night alone? Would openly showing off my most valuable belongings in a dangerous neighbourhood be a good idea? We evaluate risks everyday and just as men have to risk a dangerous world so do women. Otherwi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 06:05 AM
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Flip side is all the men who leaves jobs, quit employment or work under the table to avoid paying any child support. Yeah, but they're hardly the majority. Most men who do have jobs are not trying to commit fraud or avoid responsibility. They're trying to make an honest living. The unemployed men or the really poor cannot afford to fight and get called deadbeats regardless of their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 05:38 PM
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A quarter of the population is still significant enough to be considered a lot. Within the context of relationships and PPD, a quarter might include the bulk of the dateable population.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 03:01 PM
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Reponses like this just prove her point. There are men here who just cannot concieve that women have no desire to mommy grown men. But women are happy to have a man play daddy to them and not just in a sexual manner. Woman want what they're unwilling to give.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 02:54 PM
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Yeah it seems crazy that people have to pay for expensive lawyers to get something that should have been the default If the judges are so fucked up that you have to pay for your rights, then the system has gone to shit "Be willing to lose thousands to fight the system or else it proves you don't really want your kids, you deadbeat!" Not exactly a fair system at all when mom can allege abuse, take the kids without it being considered kidnapping or even abandon the kids (safe haven laws) and dad's…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/19 09:37 AM
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My understanding is that, generally speaking, the lower your social class and education, the less likely you'll use condoms or birth control. This includes the women who become single moms, many of whom are quite young. OP also makes a direct link between consent to sex and consent to parenting for men, but even women who fuck without protection still have more of a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 07:01 AM
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Like I said, exceptions to the rule don't disprove it. You're still saying 'be hot enough to be the equivalent of a Hollywood star'. The fact that they dated hot women before doesn't mean they weren't hot, confident and talented men. They weren't short, ugly and overweight guys who suddenly turned into attractive men when they walked into the studio. And even if that were the case, the money they'd need to become more attractive would be out of the average man's hands. Anecdotes are nice, and yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:46 PM
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We have already commercialised all other instincts. The only way people can combat this is by developing communities with a better balance between rights, autonomy and responsibility. This starts with families, which corporations are tearing apart for profit. It's much easier to get people to become consumers when they feel they're missing something from their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 09:32 PM
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Here's some info on the socio economic conditions: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/07/02/the-rise-of-single-fathers/ Some info from the site: Among household heads who are fathers, some are more likely to be single dads than others. Single fatherhood is generally more prevalent among younger, less educated, poorer and non-white fathers. In terms of household financial status, single fathers are much better off than single mothers, and much worse off than married fathers. Almost one-fourth (…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 01:49 PM
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Yeah “just be yourself” is BS. If women don’t like you, you need to spend a lot of time working on developing your character and expanding upon your personality, because most of the time a persons “as is” is pretty spectacularly lame. Yes, it sucks but that's the cost of entry. It's a shame most women don't come to this realisation themselves. They mostly blame others for their problems and only 'mature' too late to change things. Men, meanwhile, cannot protest that women's standards are too hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:56 AM
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The rest of us don't want to hear you complain all day long that you're hungry either. I mean, you could simply not read or engage with them if you hate what they have to say. Telling them no one wants to hear their complaints isn't going to change anything and may even make it worse. I've yet to see the folks here undig their heels, especially after insulting or snarky responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:51 AM
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If height was the only thing that mattered, Tom Cruise and Kevin Hart would be incels You cannot use celebrities as a precedent. You're saying short guys should look like Hollywood stars and have Hollywood star money to be worthy of romance and love from women. You don't see how ridiculously high that bar is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 06:46 AM
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I’m still a little surprised when guys pick me over the hotties. regarding you with suspicion I have a nice face and an hourglass figure, but I’ve never had a flat stomach or thigh gap — not even at my lowest weight. Here we go. Study after study comes out proving men love curves most, and you're wondering why they pick you and not the 'hotties'? You ARE the hotty. But ultimately, what I have learned is this: men aren’t nearly as superficial about LTRs as they are about plates. I'd say men do ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/19 08:37 AM
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Must be why all the supermodels are dating serial killers So women comprise only supermodels now? And to answer your question: yes, models do date killers. Those rich businessmen who date models? Their toxic waste, pollution, slave labour, arms contracts, and other dodgy means to make money has killed many. Those dictators who enslave and murder people? They fuck attractive women all the time. Fidel Castro had quite the libido. Mob bosses? They get married and have mistresses on the side. This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 09:20 PM
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Yes because as other commenters have pointed out the traits that make a man beta also make him a bad lover. This is a bad feedback loop. We raise our boys and love their beta traits. Their stability, hard work and responsibility are all great traits, which do very little to inspire lust in women. Then when the young men ask what women desire, they get terrible advice: be yourself, women love hard working men, get a job etc. No one tells these boys the truth, that women want tall, broad shouldere…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/19 06:00 AM
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I don't understand as usual why women can go through invasive painful surgical procedures to get rid of a baby but men cannot do some paperwork at a cheek swab and go to court to disestablish paternity. Why is it always "do it for me"? Why is it always the hospital should do it automatically? One has happened to make men on able to do anything for themselves? Thirst and men don't want to hurt women's feelings because most of them are too afraid to set boundaries. Social shame is a strong enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/19 07:07 AM
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popular and handsome. Sorry for what happened to you. No one deserves to be victimised. However, the notion of Chad doesn't mean he cannot be a creep/asshole/drug addict/criminal etc. They often get away with it because people excuse their poor behavior. They live in an attractive people bubble (similar to white privilege, if you will) and get away with shit because they're attractive. It's not uncommon for women to complain about attractive men being assholes, which is why betas are confused wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 02:58 PM
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This. If you are in a trusting, monogamous relationship, it would be both insulting and a waste of money to request (edit: or offer) regular STD checks. Everyone says this until they get an STD or discover the kid isn't theirs. The impact of an STD or paternity fraud is far worse than some hurt feels. Put another way, if you could avoid contracting HIV/Aids from a cheating partner, would you? Or would the trust you placed in them be enough to comfort you after the fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 07:01 AM
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It makes sense. It's a good idea, too. But it needs a cultural shift around it or a third party to oversee it. It's like when hospitals and governments run campaigns on STDs and health, one of the things they encourage people to do is get tested before starting a sexual relationship. It makes sense and it's a good idea. But in practice, how many people actually ask before getting into bed? And how many people don't ask for fear of scaring off a potential partner? It could so easily be construed …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/19 06:48 AM
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You can say these are mostly OLD standards but those standards didn't come from nowhere. It's just that OLD data is incredibly easy to get. OLD is a representation of reality. If you're hot, women are going to fuck you. If you're not, no amount of a charming personality is going to save you. That barrier to entry for men is really tight high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 05:03 AM
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I don't know. I imagine it's less. Women know they're on the clock, men think they can wait. Biologically speaking, yes they can wait. I've seen way more women trying to settle down and start a family in their 30s than, say, guys trying to do so in their 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/19 04:27 AM
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The chick who did who and whatever she wanted growing up still probably gets whoever she really wants in the end too. This whole wall revenge fantasy isn't as common as a lot of them want it to be. The high divorce rate and high initiation by women thereof tells us women aren't getting who they really want nor are they very happy. Women are more miserable today with more freedom and choices than 60 years ago. Someone's marrying the 'bottom 80%' of men. It's the unhappy 80% of women...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/19 04:52 AM
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That's just men misinterpreting a natural change in preferences as a woman matures. And it's fine if she has a change of preference. But it's amazing how often this change tends to happen after she's been pumped and dumped several times, after she's wasted a decade or more on men who were never going to commit, after she notices her friends getting married, and usually closer to 30 rather than 20. If your claim is that this is a natural tendency when women finally 'mature', then men cannot trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/19 06:50 AM
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Yes, because there's a huge difference between those preferences. Men tend to like women who are either thin/blessed with the right curves, or at an average weight--not chubby or overweight. That is fair. Women tend to like the same, except replace "thin"/curvy with lean and/or muscular. Also fair. These are pretty equal preferences. No. No they're not. If a man wants to be thin or muscular, he has to spend hours in the gym every week. For a woman to be curvy, she just has to not overeat. A skin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:38 PM
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You've not only hit the nail on the head, you've hammered it through the heart of the truth. There aren't any roles left for men in relationships except to be co-wives. They'd have to learn to switch off their sex drives first for this to change...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:59 PM
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I think it’s because there are several women who have had sex with multiple partners but still have wonderful, sex filled relationships. Intimacy and exclusivity definitely do not have to be intertwined. Some people do intertwine them but a lot of people don’t give two shits if their partners had sex with a lot of people as long as the sex they get is good too That's fine, but then women shouldn't lie about what they desire. Women claim to prioritise commitment and relationships but take part in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:39 PM
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Yeah well you think we're all whores anyways, No one called you a whore did they? And if they did, they should be reported. No use attempting to convince you that nuance is a thing. RP tried that with the bluepillers here. The bpers gave the least generous translation of RP while mocking RPers for not understanding nuance. But they ignored the RP nuance in the process. People know the nuance, some just choose to ignore it. For example, posters here pointed out that there's a difference in the ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:10 PM
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I mean in most cases I think they'll straight up reject intimacy if it comes without sex. Imagine you're starving and someone who says they care for you just offers crackers. They have better food but they refuse to offer you more than crackers. Were you in their position, you'd share your pizza, burgers and delicious drinks. You have some choices. Stay and live off cracker alone or try to find proper food elsehwere? For men, sex is intimacy. Would you be ok with torturing yourself day in and ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 05:20 PM
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Of course men are going to take any extra sex that results if women showed that kind of empathy. But no matter how many times men say 'stop treating us like dirt', women don't see how their behavior can hurt men, they just think (as usual) it's all about sex. Yes, sex is important. But what does a man do when his wife smacks him in public or a woman sexually harasses him? Other men cannot gang up on one woman to protect him, they'd get arrested. In social experiments where partners 'abused' each…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:34 AM
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Then the financial loss is even worse.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 04:53 PM
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It seems that way, but it's not. There is no conspiracy, it's just how things are shaking out. Humanity's progress seems to be towards a goal we're not even sure of yet. But we're still on track. Look at what things have become universal and you'll notice a pattern: things that strengthen and empower citizens get ignored or outlawed. Even collecting rainwater can land you in hot water in certain states. Things that weaken or remove power from citizens gets priority: governments want backdoors in…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 07:07 AM
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i just love when men like you out themselves so women can avoid you. honey, pay attention. it's 2019, not 1890. women dont want your leadership as much as they dont want to be a leech. since you havent paid attention i must inform you that women make their own money and dont want silly men stuck in the 50s. Yes and they're far more miserable today than in the 1950s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:38 AM
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Usually when people discuss the Chad and Stacies it's used as a reference point. Also, the average man has noticed how much more attention the average woman gets online and how much easier it is for women to get attention than men. There's usually a context when they discuss these issues. The instagram models are a reference point relating to a trend, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:28 AM
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Is this just another product of kids getting raised on the internet or something? I literally can't fathom the sort of passivity necessary to sit in your room and just wait for someone to break down the door to come fix your life for you. It's the result of treating boys like defective girls, mollycoddling and lying to kids about what dating entails. Things like not letting kids play outside and be social, telling them to just be themselves, giving out participation trophies without a clear winn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 12:18 PM
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Depends on the people involved and how hard it is. Show me a video and I'll tell you. Intention is important here. Example: a hard smack on the cheek can be violent or sexy depending on the context. If she's smacking him on the head because she's frustrated, angry or just wanting to hurt him, it's a form of abuse no matter how hard she hits. We don't consider it healthy when kids lash out violently even if they cannot do much damage. Another way to look at it is how schools banned corporal punis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:44 AM
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Sure, and that's shitty. Is it really worse than sticking it out? For him it's his damn Catholic pride, but if it were me I would've bit the bullet, paid her off, and GTFI decades ago. The way it was explained to me was that if dad leaves, the kids become mom's next target and outlet for abuse. It's not easy for any parent to leave their kids, especially if the abuser is more likely to have custody of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:30 AM
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So what are you and others in the manosphere who raise this issue on a regular basis doing to the help male victims? Are you donating money to men's shelters or support programs for men? Are you lobbying your lawmakers to equalize funding and reosurces and demand training for health care and law enforcement professionals? Anything? Any man reading this should understand this position. Women owe you nothing, men. You gave them the right to vote without needing to sign up for the draft. You allowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 06:19 AM
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Yeah well women don’t have the “luxury of going dark” when it comes to childcare and taking care of the house either. Until the kids move out.... No one's forcing anyone to have kids against their will. The sacrifices that come with parenting are nothing new. The impact on your lifestyle, happiness and financial wellbeing are what it takes to raise a child. As far as being an “emotional tampon” goes: if you moved her far away from friends and family and continued to provide her with toddlers to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 05:48 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. A stark warning that we're not talking about men might do the trick. Circumcision is off topic! You're not going to be able to remove the context nor the comparison. The second a woman tells a man anything to do with his body, such as manspreading, it's hypocritical to tell men to only comment if they understand women's anatomy. A university student Laila Laurel even invented a chair to prevent manspreading. Nevermind the circumcision issue. You're not going to get the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:02 AM
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Or you could just not invite people to places that require money, like I do. Then no one has to pay. Still doesn't mean women are going to start initiating. And it would be bad form for them to only ask men out on dates that cost them nothing, if they do approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:53 AM
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You’re putting the cart before the horse; alcohol creates poverty, not poverty creates alcoholism. No, capitalism creates poverty. Otherwise there'd be no poor people in Islamic countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 07:52 AM
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Given FAS is caused by a combination of malnutrition and chronic alcohol abuse, there’s more merit in food and contraceptives being given to dysfunctional alcoholics than not letting a pregnant woman buy herself a shandy on a Saturday after the cricket. Sure but this just means that the poorer someone is, the more likely they are to abuse alcohol. You'd have to figure out who is an alcoholic and who isn't. Even if the issue is chronic alcohol abuse and malnutrition, exactly how much does a mom n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 04:44 AM
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Yes, I have met plenty of girls who did not catch my eye at first but after interacting with her I really wanted to be with her, or girls who I initially found attractive but their personality was just a turnoff. Yes there is a threshold most men have. This is why some guys put up with her shit if she's hot. But nothing gives me a derection faster than a stupid woman. She can be gorgeous but if she's about as interesting as a brick, I wouldn't bother. Okay, maybe I'd have thrown her one bone bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:22 PM
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No. Every first date I've had came about because I initiated. I've had women hit on me, even aggressively so. Two women invited me to sex parties when I was younger. The first was an older woman who sold sex toys for a living but I was too young to understand her advances (19/20). The second was from a landwhale who had smothered a skinny guy with her equally obese sister in a flabby sandwich on the dancefloor. I turned her down despite the clever theme: cum as your favourite comic strip charact…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:17 PM
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It’s generally considered polite for the person who does the asking to be at least willing to pay. Not enough women do both which still places the burden mostly on men's shoulders...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:05 PM
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I don't really care what people do with their own bodies but putting a child at risk of a difficult life because mom couldn't resist a drink is pretty shitty. I worked in a special needs school for kids with Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. The kids were all given up for adoption but were fortunate enough to be adopted by loving parents who could afford to send them to the school. But that's part of the problem. Most of the women who give birth to these kids aren't in the position to take care o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 10:00 PM
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You're going to hit a wall when circumcision pops into the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:34 PM
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Tough. Would you want to raise a child alone who would never know their other parent? There are also other ways to remember someone that do not involve the reason for someone's existence. But who would say no to their dying SO?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 09:11 PM
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They're next door to the evil women oppressing patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:03 AM
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I suspect that low-libido women do too--because if their husband wants sex even once a week, that might well seem like he wants it 'all the time'. This makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:02 AM
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This is true but I think it's a learned skill more than something they engage in by default when they're upset. Once you realise how women communicate with each other you realise there's a lot of animosity and hostility beneath the surface when they're competing with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 08:00 AM
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Japan has jobs that are not brutal. They said the work ethic is brutal not the jobs. There was a Toyota employee that collapsed and died from being overworked: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2007/12/01/national/nagoya-court-rules-toyota-employee-died-from-overwork/ Kenichi Uchino died Feb. 9, 2002, at age 30 after working about 106 hours of overtime in one month until the day before his death. I wouldn't fault anyone for not wanting to be overworked. The Japanese have a strange work ethic. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:22 AM
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Sex isn’t the end all be all of life.... Technically it is. Without it it would be the end of all life, but let's look at the 'quality of life' issue. I'm not even going to bother with the misconstrued 'Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs' argument because Maslow was referring to the survival of the species, not necessarily someone's sex drive It is not necessary to eat every day to survive. Nor is it necessary for women to have a vote for society to run. Nor do you need to leave your home to survive. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:51 PM
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Ok. But I’d ask why women would be motivated to try and be “first mate” material when there aren’t a ton of men capable of being “captain” material. There are also not a lot of women who are first mate material. The point is to be as high quality as possible to snag a high quality partner. I just see a lot of men here wanting to pick and choose the things they like about traditionalism without having to hold up their end of the bargain. You mean people are human and want the benefits first? You …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 06:22 AM
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That's nice, but it has nothing to do with the kind of bitchy, woman-brained man that hangs out there. You could say the same about the redditors here. BP only exists to make fun of RP, even if it's thinly veiled contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 04:48 AM
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or retro board games. You fiend!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:56 PM
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Damned after one anecdote? An exception doesn't disprove the trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:55 PM
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Omg hahahahahaha! Are there more ridiculous reasons like this? If so, please put them in a sticky compilation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:53 PM
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About as noble as r/niceguys?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:51 PM
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Just go there and see examples of everything unmarried single women want in an ideal partner sad married dudes in dead bedrooms mocking poor people "No, I couldn't keep my legs closed or keep fucking without protection. I'm POOR! Don't you know that absolves me of all responsibility?" Maybe part of the reason they're poor is because of their poor decision making? Single motherhood isn't exactly the first, or any step, towards financial wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:49 PM
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Unicorns Men: pleasant, somewhat attractive, likes sex. Women: tall, average face (see this handsome celebrity's face for an example), rich but doesn't work too much, loves nature but isn't a hippy, loves food but isn't too fat...oh and a thick, uncircumcised penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:39 PM
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Damn you just described my boyfriend Suspiciously accurate description, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 07:33 PM
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Not in France! But that's minor. I'm talking about middle East 2.0, such as segregation in school, at work or church. Or women needing chaperones to leave their homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:41 PM
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Im talking men vs women Yes. And the power dynamic and damage is still there. Those vaginas can cause the same kind of trauma. You're saying a man penetrating someone is more traumatic when there's a post on twox now about a man who was raped by two women and wakes up in the middle of the night screaming. What makes adults immune to the trauma? By the way, if you're using a prostate exam as your guideline for trauma due to penetration, you've a misguided view about prostate exams and penetration…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 06:37 PM
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Being penetrated is invasive and hurts more. You ever had a prostate exam? Yes. It wasn't that bad. The problem with labelling any crime committed by men against women as worse is it leads to oppression one way or another. How do we keep women from being hurt by men because they're bigger and stronger? Segregation! There's also little regard for the boys who are molested by teachers because vaginas are apparently less traumatic. Psychologists disagree, though, and say the trauma boys and girls s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 03:01 PM
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What if she is the wife of one of your friends? Of your best friend? Of your coworker? Is there a line you put somewhere? I suspect most guys wouldn't fuck their friends' wives because they'd screw multiple relationships up. If they aren't part of your social circle, though, the wives are free game as long as they are willing to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:16 AM
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Would you sleep with a married woman? I do. Almost every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:09 AM
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Maybe she's cheating because she's not happy or her husband is a jerk. Heh. If your partner's a jerk, why cheat? Just leave. If you're not happy, cheating isn't going to improve your marriage. And I would love to see the same justification for men who cheat: "Well, my wife's a bitch so I cheated..."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 11:08 AM
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She felt entitled to a certain way of living and doing things a certain way. Could even be an inability to put herself in his shoes. Not at first, anyway. Women like this generally believe men doing things their way is the wrong way. I think women believe men have no clue and are okay womansplaining to men (but men dare not do the equivalent). It makes no sense to marry someone you respect and trust only to second guess everything they do. And what do the men do? They stay quiet, apologise and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 08:33 AM
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in practice that’s going to be a personal understanding and hard for any woman to read his mind on which constructive criticism and which is nagging. Why are you looking to provide criticism in the first place? A good rule of thumb is to not give any advice or criticism unless your partner asks for input. Alternatively, ask if they need help first. This avoids the mind reading and would get straight to the point. If you cannot trust your partner to get important things done, why'd you marry them…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 05:50 AM
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Some examples: Man comes home after a hard day at work and the wife could either greet him with a to-do list, complaints and a bad attitude or a hug, a smile and leaving him to settle in for 20 mins before making requests. Husband and wife go out to a restaurant. The wife could look for things to complain about, treat the staff poorly and generally be miserable or she could be present, engaged in conversation with you and be patient. Side note: why do women tend to treat service staff poorly? Hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 05:43 AM
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I bet there are women who would be attracted to them, they just haven't figured out the type of women who would be into their look. If only those women actually approached, he'd know they existed. Instead, he gets emotionally latched to the first moderately attractive girl to be nice to him. It takes years for him to undo the shitty programming/advice and then years to figure out how to attract a woman. In the meantime, he's playing a guessing game trying to understand nice friendly and nice sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 07:32 PM
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I genuinely believe that a non-insignificant % of single women with dogs have fucked them. Mother of god...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 05:20 PM
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barring the occasional mini freakout over small things depending on stress level, my level of hunger, the time of the month or some combination, Men do notice when their women are unhappy and it's not easy to have an upset woman around. Firstly, he'll try to solve the problem which may make things worse. And secondly, women aren't always mindful of how their words and actions affect their partners. You may have seen this story on reddit before, but this is the sort of problem men run into: https…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 03:31 PM
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I think he should admit his feelings when he has them. Usually this is when you're more acquaintances than close friends, but even if it isn't, a decent guy will just ask you out if he likes you. You must understand the context here. Men don't want to scare a potential romantic partner away. And after years of poor advice ("just be yourself"), they get setup for failure. This includes not being too sexual when they meet a woman they like and being nice. Also, men tend to give the love they desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 11:34 AM
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you make “maturity” sound like some noble awakening of a self sacrificial element, while often it may just mean being forced to behave like an adult due to fear of being ostracised They usually get humbled by a harsh life event when the good, carefree times stop and they have to deal with reality. This includes actually learning how to attract and keep a partner, and that acting like an entitled brat doesn't work. If you've ever met someone good looking who is emotionally immature, it means no o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:46 AM
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You're right but it's a bit easier to vet her based on her past behavior in relationships because that info tends to be more readily available in her social group. Getting to know her upbringing requires a bit more involvement and emotional investment, perhaps even commitment. By then it's much harder to pull out (hehe).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:34 AM
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That's it ? Yes, barring personal preference (curves!), that's about it. Also define emotionally stable. In short: don't be a crazy, jealous possessive, controlling bitch. Don't be an emotional terrorist. Don't freak out over small things. Don't be a screeching harpy because he left a dish out or throw a tantrum because he is human and makes mistakes. Even someone with patience is becoming harder to find. I blame technology and a mollycoddled generation who never had to learn delayed gratificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:30 AM
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The world is not exactly overflowing with their male equivalents. That's because women have a much longer list of requirements with greater dichotomy in traits that few men can live up to. That is not an equivalent in practice but an equivalent in terms of desire. A male unicorn is even rarer than a female unicorn. For men being pleasant, not grossly overweight and being sexually available to your partner is asking far less. Even then women struggle with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 07:27 AM
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My response was to her speculation to what she could have done if she were born a man. Yes. That isn't truly putting herself in mens' shoes. She isn't considering what her life would be like if everything were the same besides her being a woman. She did even though she may not be accurate. You cannot reasonably expect that women would know 100% what it's like to be a man. It would be different if she were born short, privileged and mollycoddled, and then expected to be romantically successful as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 07:20 AM
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Don't you come in here with your reason and logic and pragmatism!! Don't you know where you are??? How does this change what the previous poster said? Regardless of whether more people are being diagnosed or not, if he is unwilling to be with someone with a mental illness, that's not the worst reason NOT to date someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:51 AM
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Pornstars are very average looking women with lots of make up and who are sexually available. Most women could do porn if they wanted to and there is a vast selection of amateur stuff. Porn didn't really raise standards much because being willing to have sex is not that difficult. At worst it added a few fantasies but generally speaking most people settle for vanilla 10 minute missionary and then bed time. Most guys would rather have sex with real women than rub one out to porn, unless they're a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 04:46 AM
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The sub r/dataisbeautiful usually has some stats on this. There are also redditors there who share their online dating stats and there's a huge difference in matches between men and women. Not only do women receive matches more frequently, they get to bare red flags - single mom, promiscuous past, debt, poverty, laundry lists of requirements for partners - and still get men interested. It's severely biased in the favour of women and the top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/19 06:12 PM
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If you were born a man you would have had to deal with the same abuse, but would have received far less support. That's the point. It's not comparing your situation to your brothers, but if you were born as a brother in your stead. Her upbringing seems pretty harsh on its own regardless of her gender. You're speculating here at best. OP asked women to put themselves in men's shoes (couldn't you do the same here?) and you're invalidating her experience. I am sure she may have had it rougher but i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 06:39 AM
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What support do you think I supposedly received?? Lol. The bulk of any support is in services related to my status as a veteran of the US Military, all of which are available to both genders and much more often utilized by men. I know I've disagreed with a lot of what you have written before. But the other poster is not putting himself in your shoes at all. You lived through a lot and got out. That should be something to be proud of. Regardless of whether you're a man or a woman that childhood s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 06:36 AM
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it goes against the echo chamber it gets downvoted to hell. Downvoting is supposed to be used when someone isn't contributing to the discussion. Reddit uses it as a disagree button, regardless of whether it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 06:29 AM
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I wonder how guys would feel about this if gay guys did this on the regular to drunk straight dudes. You wanna bet they'd be a whole lot more upset? If it's happening regularly, wouldn't you advise straight men not to get drunk around gay men? And would you take them as seriously if they kept complaining about it despite heading back to get drunk around gay men again and again? There's also another problem with your analogy. It implies straight women only see men as about as attractive as lesbia…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:15 PM
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There are disproportionately more male rapists than female rapists. That doesn't change the fact that rape committed by men or women is deplorable. We shouldn't let women slide when they are caught because the act itself is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:55 PM
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normally get that drunk but you did that day by accident This doesn't make sense. There's a reason why we encourage people to drink responsibly. Alcohol is dangerous, especially when consumed in large amounts. Unless this is a new experience, you have control over how much you consume and it generally takes a lot to make you pass out. This doesn't mean you deserve to be a victim of crime nor is it saying you are responsible for the rape that took place if you are a victim. But there's no such th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:53 PM
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So when Bubba bends you over while intoxicated and fucks you up the ass because you can’t fight him off, you’re responsible for the consequences. I think they're saying don't put yourself in harm's way around strangers. The drunk driving analogy doesn't work because you have to be somewhat conscious to drive. But even though it's not your fault you got raped, it's not a good idea to get so drunk you are unable to function and pass out. This isn't holding the victim responsible for the actions of…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:47 PM
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Not religious and not tradcon. Her N count doesn't matter unless it affects how she's treating me. If she enjoyed certain sex acts with other partners, there's no reason she shouldn't enjoy them with me either. How do you discover it? Get to know the people she socialises with. Listen to what they talk about. If it's all scandal, drama, cheating and shallow BS, then don't bother. You don't need to visit the DMV if you know who she surrounds herself with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 12:33 PM
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A man wanting a woman with a lower n count is no more and no less "slut-shaming" than a woman wanting a taller man is "short-shaming". Well it's not like short guys can choose to be taller. A woman who is promiscuous is choosing to be. Sluts are made, not born. So it's actually worse when women insist that only tall men need apply. They don't want men to judge them on things that are a choice, such as their weight or how many people they sleep with. And yet they're happy to judge men on height, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:47 AM
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I don't know why women think pornstars are hot. 90% of them are average or below average. Many of them are overweight. Some are obese. You get a minority who are good looking but men tend not to watch just one video. They search for different videos. Women call men stupid for falling for makeup then say men find pornstsrs hotter than real women. No, they are just more sexually available and aren't afraid to show it (for a price). Have women even seen pornstars without make up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:48 AM
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As a former headline writer, I can't blame them for being clickbaity. But it's not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:11 PM
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More men are eschewing sex because the porn actress or the Instagram girl looks better than the women IRL. This isn't saying much because it could be that the porn star is more accessible than the average woman. These guys have been rejected enough that it's just not worth it anymore. But they'd rather have a woman than be alone. Porn is an unhappy compromise. There's growing sexlessness among men but not women. Men are also committing suicide at a much higher rate. It's not as simple as saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:59 PM
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your point is inaccurate. female arousal has t be sparked by the man, she cant just arouse herself. this isnt some moral judgment of the man. inadequate = inadequate in bed, not inadequate as a human being Their point was that women don't want to instruct men but they just expect men to know what to do. Hence she proved his point. He has no idea what it's like to have a vagina, so unless she tells him how she likes it, he's going to do what he thinks works and gets him off. That can be a gamble …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:30 AM
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Isn't it interesting that a woman's inability to enjoy sex is always framed as the fault of her male partner? As opposed to who else? The woman partner? Women aren't the ones doing the bulk of the sexual work and then getting judged as failures for not intuitively knowing how to get their partners off. If you're having bad sex, you're as much to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:26 AM
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It's like getting a job. They want the complete package but no one wants to train them. This puts both men and women at a disadvantage. Don't just blame the guy, also blame the women he was with before who didn't teach him anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:49 AM
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The more money liberals make, the more conservative they become.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:44 AM
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40% is not insignificant. That also doesn't mean the other 60% are happy. Many couples cannot afford a divorce or have nowhere else to go. There are also other problems, like dead bedrooms, mental and physical health problems, financial dependence and, of course, staying together for the kids. Kids also generally reduce the couple's happiness and their sex lives can come to a halt. Considering how many westerners are obese, have health issues, are in debt and have to take care of kids, the only …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:36 AM
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Not really. Dicks are ugly things, in general. I dont get why men send pictures of them. They are not appealing to look at. Men don't necessarily think their penises are ugly to look at. However, we know women don't think penises themselves are sexy. It's the work he has to put in (giggity) that does the trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:09 AM
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Who told you? My mom said its fine. Was this before or after you broke your arms?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:05 AM
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You make some good points. I mean some of it I disagree with and some of it is just ridiculous (“women call for the death of all men,” come on dude), but overall you make some good points. The killallmen and menaretrash hashtags did the rounds on social media. Imagine if men said 'killallwomen'. But here’s what’s interesting. Much of what you raise I see men on PPD reinforcing every day. Calling men who aren’t traditionally masculine “soy boys.”’ This isn't because they aren't traditionally masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 04:12 PM
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I saw an article recently where a woman asked her fiance to take a second job to pay for their increasing wedding expenses. She asked for help on reddit on how to convince him to do it. Fiance was trying to convince her to cut back on costs. She refused and said it was her day. What really made it messed up was she had quit her job to focus on planning because being stuck in traffic and having to work took away from her wedding planning time. The redditors told her to leave him and said he shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:19 PM
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a few of your white pills If it's getting a bit chewy, you should see a doctor
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:16 PM
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The rest of us watched our parents have absolutley fucking awful marriages they tried or are still trying to make work. This right here. They followed the 'happy wife, happy life' philosophy and it made them both miserable. You're right. Men cop most of the blame. And while they are responsible for a lot of the issues, such as letting themselves go or being doormats, wives don't exactly relent. They do the opposite of what's required and break their men down instead of supporting them. This come…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 12:15 PM
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What is it that you would like women to empathize with? Serious ? Let's see. How about some concern for how men are treated by women. Female teachers treat boys like defective girls. Men who struggle with women are creep shamed. Masculinity is defined as useful mostly when it serves women. On that, men don't have the same expectations they did before so women were freed from their gender roles but women insist on stricter definitions for men or they get no romantic attention. Women could also be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 07:50 AM
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Would you have told the construction workers they're too pretty to be doing manual labor? That's because construction workers are pretty nasty. If they looked like models, I'm sure they'd get a few compliments...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 08:22 PM
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It kind of ...smeared. Twas the night before Monday, and all through the house Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. Krispy roused from his slumber, to answer nature's call. His eyelids where heavy, he saw nothing at all. But there in the dark lay many a trap. Some presents left behind by his pets Yip and Yap. He stepped out of his room, feet bare and quite free. And he avoided landmines one, two and three. After flushing and washing he turned to head back. To return to his bed and get …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 12:18 PM
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We both do, though she prefers certain chores over others. I like cleaning the shower, doing the dishes and mopping. She likes cooking, doing the dishes and sweeping. I practically have to restrain her so I can wash up sometimes. Nothing beats the feeling of warm, soapy water and a stack of freshly washed dishes ready to be dried and packed. I can understand why I have to fight her to do them...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 12:00 PM
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England - my British friends tell me the women are not like American women. You'll go on a date, shag and then if you like each other, date some more. Italy - Italians do have a reputation to maintain... Vietnam - those South East Asian countries are havens for debauchery, especially if you're a foreigner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 09:44 AM
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Oh yeah, sure, I can believe that /s I'd love to say I knew, but generally the women tend to lie about being taken. I'd just get angry calls and messages afterwards. I'd find out months later when things were over that they'd had partners. If men only knew how willing women are to cheat and lie about it...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 09:42 AM
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RP tells its men to be stoic, yes? and it encourages the view that women are inferior ("women are children", "women don't know what they want"), yes? how was the an unfair interpretation? You haven't dug deeper into what RP is doing. They have to shatter the Women Are Wonderful effect. These men believed women are these sweet, amazing creatures that can do no wrong. Because men treat many women this way, essentially giving them what they want, a pattern emerged. Women don't have to be emotionall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:42 AM
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Dafuq are you on about? You aren't talking about me I would hope. Depends. Would you take a drink from a guy then ignore him?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:23 AM
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A very unattractive man could jack off to porn or bang escorts and be extremely happy about it cause it makes his ding-dong feel good.But a very unattractive woman may be unhappy because men aren't really attracted to her and only use her for easy sex. I was with you until here. There's nothing stopping women from using prostitutes or masturbating to porn. Men would prefer sleeping with real women instead of fapping to porn. Women only desiring the top men doesn't preclude them from finding alte…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:41 PM
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Still means the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 04:52 PM
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This is why I don't understand why women see rape as a bad thing. Imagine a guy finds you so hot that he'd risk 10 years in jail to fuck you. It should be an honor. At best women fantasise about being ravished. But rape is not an honour.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:57 PM
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The worst feeling for a woman is feeling like you are more invested in a man than he is in you. This is saying she enjoys having that kind of power over him and wants him to bring more value than she is willing to offer in return. Ironically, her chasing him keeps them together far longer than when he's the one trying to prove himself to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:54 PM
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So that makes it even less of a privilege. Women know what they're doing. It's privileged begging that works because of the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:47 PM
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Yeah but would you take the drink and ignore him, or would you chat with him? Because they feel entitled to it. The guy is just the yucky workhorse she has to manipulate into doing what she wants. My friends got around this by asking the women why they never walk over to offer them drinks. They saved a ton of money. It's not like the women were going to go home with them anyway. They were basically being privileged beggars.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:41 PM
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I don't think OP even bothered to respond to the RP folk on here. OP did what bluepillers do when they encounter RP: take the least generous interpretation and argue based on what is essentially a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 03:33 PM
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Men do not always blame themselves. That is absurd. They absolutely do. Generally speaking, women blame men for failed relationships and men blame themselves. RP shits all over loser men as much as it despises women for poor behavior. How you know men blame themselves is how people respond to men and women complaining about relationships. Men: Women suck. They treat men like dirt and expect men to slave away for them. Response: Incel virgin loser! Women: Men suck. They treat women like dirt and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:41 AM
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Judaism says that before Eve came Lilith, Adams first wife and the worlds first "sexually liberated" woman that constantly fought with him and ended up leaving him to go do demon stuff. He was the only dude around. Where tf did she even go?? Hahahahahahahaha! Much of religion is allegory but I get what you're saying. Religions traditionally have tried to keep our base instincts in check otherwise society would collapse. We've kept men's in check but women are free to do as they please, which has…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 06:39 AM
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Sure but obese women get laid more than obese men. Women with lower SMV also tend to have more sex. There is no Big Beautiful Man porn either. While men would prefer women be in better shape, they still find women attractive when they're overweight. Women tend not to be as forgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:36 AM
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It’s interesting to me that modern men are so freaked about rape and jail time. No. They're concerned about false rape accusations and the effects thereof. There was a news report recently of a man who overdosed ok drugs because the false accusation put him in jail for six years. He turned to drugs to cope with what happened. Lost his job, his family. He had to register as a sex offender. His life was ruined the moment he was accused. MOST ppl don’t go to the police when they’ve been raped. We c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 06:18 PM
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Er... You're...welcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 02:28 PM
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You are just repeating rp fallacy. Sex and physical attractiveness is all you desire in life. I don't think you know how they started. Have you read any field reports from RP men about what they used to be like? Many of them were doormats who treated women like special snowflakes. Being nice doesn't turn women on so they got friendzoned. They noticed women sleeping with attractive men but claiming they wanted men with virtue. For many RP men, they were physically unattractive and noticed a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 08:57 AM
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I suppose that's true. However, neglecting your partner due to the kids isn't a good idea. A lot of women just expect men to put up with it. One woman I know neglected her husband and he found a mistress. She continued to justify her neglect of him as needing to take care of her child. She got divorced (he found a new partner), which is like the opposite of what's best for the kid. What does not taking it lying down even look like? And how does he do it without coming across as an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 01:39 PM
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This is evolved, because having births too closely together is bad as it increases maternal and child mortality. The is nature's birth control. I think what he means is that sex declines after kids, not that she cannot have sex immediately after giving birth. I.e. she has a kid or two and then they suffer a dead bedroom for months or years. It's no secret sex declines after having children but if she's not fucking her husband after having kids, he'll feel hard done by.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 09:58 AM
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The idea that "ugly = heart of gold" and "goodlooking = cruel and thoughtless" is one that honestly should not survive into a man's adulthood. And if they do insist on sticking with that belief, then they should definitely not be going after goodlooking women, themselves. No one said that. Women fuck hot jerks, who can afford to be jerks because women keep fucking them, then complain there aren't good men. I mean, y'all are talking like you only have a choice between 10s and 0s (that OKCupid stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 07:49 AM
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A lot of men here have this idea that an ugly guy is a "good" guy, and that's really not usually the case. Nope. No man says that. Good means he'll treat you well, wants to commit, and even wants to take care of you. If only ugly guys hit on you, guess what? That's where your SMV is. Either improve yourself or be realistic. I've talked before about my fat, chubby, introvert ex. He didn't "worship" me, and I was hotter, smarter, and more social. And he's not weird; I dated a lot of other guys for…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 07:09 AM
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Okay so it WAS his point. But your edit of his dishonest or ignorant point is still a mess bc frankly women are not monolithic and plenty of them are VASTLY less demanding of a traditional male role. They just aren’t always the hot lithe stacies men here wanna hatefuck. Unfortunately data says otherwise. An unemployed man is far less likely to get married. If he loses his job while married, or if she starts earning more, the chances of divorce increase drastically. Women still prefer to have a c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/19 06:41 AM
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Yeah but, how can you ignore how gender roles affect relationships? OP highlighted an important point, that masculinity is defined as how useful it is when it's serving women. In other words, women were freed from their gender roles while expecting men to continue to maintain theirs, especially if they wanted relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:15 PM
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What you are saying is there isn’t much leftist discourse about transcending the male role to get PUSSY. Where does OP mention it's about getting laid? It seems they were talking about traditional gender roles instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:05 PM
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Believe me, as much as men claim it would be great for women to do it, (because they can't imagine anybody else other than Stacey), coming onto a man means you just get used as an opportunity. You're talking as if coming onto someone always works. No matter how many times you came onto someone, men have been doing it way, waaay more. The anger you're experiencing is what most men live with every day. At least you, as a woman, get some sympathy for men being assholes to you. Your anger at men get…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:08 AM
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Have men like, tried to not be shit at sex? Instead men want to disappoint women over and over again. So women have no agency and cannot communicate their needs with their partners? Women never sleep with men before marriage so they know what they're getting themselves into? It's not like women are the ones who have to do sexercise to get their partners off. If you've ever had to thrust for longer than a few minutes you'll realise it's not easy. Women usually just lay there and expect him to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 05:39 AM
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thinking of the types of women who are doing this by and large, at least demographically speaking. OP did say 'most women'. That wouldn't just be middle class, college educated women. We're approaching 'most' at a rapid pace. There are also enough single moms for men to form the idea that women, generally, are more okay with being a mom first than a wife, even if it's a close second.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:35 PM
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The number of (increasing) single moms says otherwise. As disgusted as you'd feel, there are millions of others who feel differently. Some women just want to be moms more than they want a partner. That is, until the bills begin stacking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:30 PM
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We wouldn't be here if everyone was a well adjusted, rational, happy being with zero relationship issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 01:40 PM
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If you're hardcore, you could say that at puberty, girls decide to become soft prostitutes. That is, they leverage their sexuality for something else. They offer sex to top quality guys who have zero interest in committing to them. They reason that since they (generally) wouldn't offer sex to men who they desire commitment from, men would want to stick around. Unfortunately, they target men with too many options who don't mind easy sex from women with lower SMV. These women have inflated self wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:24 AM
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Drinking problems are a universal problem, sadly. If your partner develops one they need serious help. Not everyone is willing to out put up with the issues, though because getting an addict to stop is hard AF. The withdrawal symptoms are way worse than trying to get off heroin and could kill you. Definitely don't blame her for leaving though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:10 AM
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I think I covered it, but having a pleasant demeanour and being a 'soft place for him to land', such as being welcoming, always being glad to see him and generally not being a bitch are part of being nice. I knew I was going to marry my SO because she was actually nice to me. She'd smile and give me a huge hug when we saw each other. She'd bring me nice lunches. She complimented me and would find any excuse to snuggle. She'd even play video games with me when we had little to do. She is consider…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:11 AM
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r/suicidebywords
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:04 AM
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but how do you want a woman to express her admiration for you in a relationship? What, specifically, does she need to do? It does vary. Such as not talking down to him and actually trusting him to complete a task without controlling how it's done. She can: make a point of complimenting him on a job well done. forgive genuine mistakes. Him not putting a glass in the dishwasher is not a sign he doesn't care. rub his ego a little now and then. It doesn't have to be a constant shower of attention, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 07:04 AM
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any man with testosterone/a sex drive can turn into a an asshole in a moment of frustration Like any woman with estrogen can turn into a raging bitch and start ovaryacting in a moment of frustration?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 04:40 AM
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I specifically said that when you don't sleep with them they get mad because they thought you'd be an easy lay. So you're throwing yourself at guys who think you're an easy lay? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 04:38 AM
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There's nothing deeper about being pleasant. It's not even that hard. The people in this thread comparing it to being a doormat are building some strawmen. Here's the dictionary definition of pleasant: "enjoyable, attractive, friendly, or easy to like" That's it. It doesn't mean be a doormat or put up with a man's terrible behavior. If he is abusing you, GTFO. Being pleasant is the opposite of what some women want to hear because it means being a controlling bitch isn't attractive to men. Having…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:47 PM
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There's no way a company could get away with it in the current political climate. If they hired only women, though, they'd be fine. It's considered acceptable sexism because who cares about men?
/r/MensRights10/07/19 07:11 PM
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No, but he'll think you're DTF or will be easy to get into bed and if it doesn't happen he'll call you names or worse. Why are you throwing yourself at men who call people names for not sleeping with them? Don't you get to know people first?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 12:29 PM
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Sounds like the dynamics of some weird Daddy Dom Little Girl relationship. It's not that strange when you consider how many women want to be 'taken care of' and want men to 'take the lead'. They want paternal-like care (protection and provision) while they maintain child-like 'innocence' because it makes them feel cute, dainty and feminine. These women want to be 'taken' by their men. Ever wonder where RP gets the idea from that women are kids? It doesn't help that women define femininity as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 09:49 AM
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I've never been without a job in my life, not has my husband. Even between good jobs, we've picked up work which made something. It's a personality indicator. That's nice and all but the trend is that women tend to 'marry up'. They tend not to marry men who are poorer or unemployed even if they themselves are poor and unemployed. For a while, housewives could meet in their kitchens to gossip about how shitty their husbdands are and make disparaging remarks about any of the lazy ones who don't wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 07:34 AM
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She was annoyed that she was only good enough for an Indian man, whom she thought was beneath her. The response from the guy because he was Indian made her feel fatter and uglier than what she was. I didn't suggest she needed to give the guy a chance. She can date whom she chooses. But she's like a 3 complaining that other 3s aren't good enough for her. She associates Indians with 'ugly'. The dude checked off all the boxes but being Indian is the problem when she's got no other options? That is …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/19 07:22 AM
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Lifting the 2.5 lb baby weights for 10 rep sets. Every time I see a woman doing that I cringe. She's wasting her time. Even just doing cardio for an hour does more. The worst part is I suspect they know they should do more but a combination of not wanting to look masculine and plain ole laziness leads to the BS excuses.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/19 07:18 AM
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Women have a preference for tall, rich, white men. These are the same men they complain about who are ruining the world. Why? Because those are the same men who pumped and dumped them, so they're angry that they couldn't get or keep the white Alpha. As a result, they project their insecurities about the men they cannot get. Instead of dealing with the fact that they're not in their league, they continue to dump hatred on the same men they want to sleep with because it's far easier and gets them …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/19 07:15 AM
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Let's see. Three sisters while growing up. Female teachers in school. Female friends and lecturers at university. Lots of female coworkers when working in the media. Even more in education. Always interacting with women. After a while you pick up on what's really going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 04:35 AM
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She admits she's fat despite trying so hard to lose weight. I've seen this a lot among women. They really don't educate themselves on the realities of diet and exercise. They shun the weights, do yoga for 30mins a day then shovel garbage down their throats after a 'workout'. I am not trivializing yoga but rather the attitude women have to losing weight. It makes them uncomfortable so they make excuses: 'I can't lift weights, I'll look like a man! I do exercise. I walk around the block once a wee…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/19 09:47 PM
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If you want to know, go look at how many employed men are married vs the unemployed men. Also ask women how many of them would be happy supporting a stay at home dad. Then go look at what the chances of divorce are if you're a man who earns less than his wife, nevermind losing his job and having to support him. You'll probably have a better idea after. You'll also probably be skeptical of women who claim money doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 09:28 PM
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and expressly what women do not want to fuck. They aren't 'fuckbois' without the 'fuck' part. The women do sleep with them but he didn't commit so they're annoyed and try to shame him. Almost like a warning to other women, but it doesn't work. He continues to get laid because he is inherently attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 07:51 AM
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Aside from feminist leaning media involving itself in giving terrible advice to men and women about dating, feminism impacted how men and women interact with each other. They not only influenced how women thought about men but also about relationships. E.g. second wavers would tell a guy not to bother holding the door open when she needs help at home with chores and kids. Life at home with a husband who works was oppressive. As such, men wanted to avoid being the oppressive assholes feminists sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 04:45 AM
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60 men in two semesters and not a single one found her worthy of love. I mean, that's if she was genuinely looking for love.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/07/19 05:47 PM
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Exactly. I’ve seen them scribe entire OPs that women don’t even “give chances” anymore. Won’t even go on the date. Well. Here we are. Taking a free meal is not giving someone a shot. Going on a date because you're hungry is not giving someone a shot. You can give someone a shot by telling them you'll pay for your own meal, insisting on a cheaper date (coffee) or scheduling it for a time you know you'll have money. Taking something for free when you know it's a date and have zero romantic interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:37 PM
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And 100% of men go on dates purely for sex. All this is saying is that men want the women but women want the freebies. You've basically called women prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:31 PM
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Well that's on him to decide whether it's worth it. He's the courting male. That's the thing. Women are not admitting they're being unfair. They're just saying the price for the goods is what it is. It doesn't inspire confidence in a man when he's got to pay for her time so she can decide whether he's worth it or not. If he insists, that's fine. But he shouldn't be paying for her time because it's basically light prostitution, except he doesn't even get sex. Imagine if the roles were reversed an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:27 PM
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Yes but things don't change simply from women acknowledging it. It helps, so I agree with that, but it's about as useful as a man saying 'that sucks' when women say they're being treated poorly. Ideally, women should either be the first to ask or insist on paying their own way. My SO insisted on paying for herself when we first started dating. She let me pay once we were more serious. She said it's because she didn't want to feel like she was indebted to me. To be fair, men can actually take act…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 05:14 PM
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This is the right answer. If she's on her phone or not interested and you've given her opportunities to engage but she isn't, pay for your own meal. Better yet, tell her to order whatever she likes and take note of her attitude. If she's racked up a huge bill, that's a red flag in itself. If she's really bad, pay for your meal and leave midway through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 02:09 PM
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She's just giving I chance and at worst she gets a meal for her time and giving the shot. She gets a meal for her time and...he gets the 'privilege' to pay for her time? It doesn't matter if the attitude is 'eh, let's see where this goes'. If it's on the condition that he pays, then she's not really interested in him. If she doesn't deem spending time with him as worth it without the meal, dinner's not going to do anything but get her fed for free. She's wasting his time, her time and his money.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:30 AM
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One anecdote in majority-liberal San Fran. You’re not going to find tradcons there regardless. Doesn’t dispute the study’s findings that tradcon women are more likely to “dinner-whore.” This is true. But I grew up in a conservative environment and even the slutty girls will dinner whore first. My SO worked with a woman who kept a circle of men who she regularly slept with for favours, money and food. She hardly ever had to spend her own money. This same topic came up in a philospohy lecture I at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 09:24 AM
0

Yes and men don't see it or ignore it due to thirst and desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 08:09 AM
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Because women usually want something in return for that sex. They also often use sex as a tool for money or for manipulation. For women, sex is about gaining power so she wants the greatest power she can get for the sex she offers. For men, power is a tool they use to get sex. So men give women power (or provide access to it through money, working and protection) and women give men sex. You're right that sex is something people enjoy together consensually but they must see each other as roughly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 11:20 AM
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You'd need to argue the industrial revolution was inevitable first. It led to innovation that freed humans from lots of manual labour. Without it, feminism would probably not have survived.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 08:57 AM
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The third wavers already started with claiming a woman should be free of consequences for the decisions they make, such as what they wear, where they go or even that there should be no reprisal if they attack a man. If you're talking about feminist theory at its core, then sure. But, what is a church if not its people?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 08:55 AM
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Like, the "IT'S MAIL CARRIER, NOT MAIL MAN" type of obnoxious Ask her what we should do with 'manhole' covers, or whether she knows the 'man' in chairman comes from the latin term 'manus' for hand. Also point out that for a movement so concerned with how gendered language is, they haven't changed the name of their own movement. The movement is named after the feminine and is fighting the evil patriarchy, or rule by men. I.e. men are bad and women are the ones who will save the day. Why not call …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:28 AM
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I don't think many of those second wavers have any influence left. This new generation thinks women should be able to jump off a building and not suffer the indignity of gravity...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:23 AM
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Given there are a lot of socialist feminists, this point is weak. Feminism was bank rolled by capitalists. When they took the money and sold women into corporate slavery, they abandoned any shred of Marxist and Socialist cred they had left.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:20 AM
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But my point is just that I get why the girl would be frustrated with that. Why? It's not her place to question the arrangement the couple has nor should she be inserting her ideology into their relationship as if his wife couldn't figure it out herself. She shouldn't be projecting her issues onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:18 AM
2

Thank fuck for that. That they see racist, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:12 AM
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I can't stand the monthly meetings. Always in some dodgy place late at night. And why always the hooded cloaks? Those things are a nightmare to wash. I still haven't filled my annual oppression quota and the review is coming up. I'll have to send the wife to the kitchen to make more sammiches or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 12:11 AM
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Who promised this? Feminists. A sexually liberated woman was supposed to be a happier woman and thus men would also benefit from women being more sexual Why do you think men thought this? Ever seen how the media has become even more sexual? Men bought into the hippy hype of free love at drug fuelled music festivals. Same shit happens today at trance parties. The media projected the image of liberals as...er...liberated people who had no sexual hang ups. That people should get back to the basics …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 08:33 AM
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Feminism was born in Marxism. They convinced women that a life of hedonism and consumerism is empowering. They of all people should know about class issues and should have prioritised the suffering of poor women instead of shouting 'you go grrl! You don't need no man' when single motherhood shot up. Feminists cannot blame capitalism. The second they convinced women to start working for a boss in a capitalist economy, they abandoned their Marxist roots and sold themselves into financial slavery. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 08:20 AM
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Dash of Islam Gets drunk Wait a second...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:50 PM
2

I waited for an Uber and when it came near, The driver had just been accused of rape in the rear. If anything I could say that this wasn't rare, But I thought "Nah, forget it, yo holmes, to Bel-Air!"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:48 PM
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Asian women are like that. They act girly and dumb, especially when a white guy rolls around. Asian guys like it. They say women in Western porn sound like they're taking a shit when they're moaning. The girlish behavior is also prevalent in sex where she acts as if she doesn't want it and finally 'submits'. Western guys find it confusing AF when she's telling him no. He stops and then she's confused, then she's got to explain that Asian women enjoy that sort of (what we'd consider) semi-rape pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:43 PM
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Women are free from any sexual control. They can go to school, get an education and build a career in any field they want. They still choose to become prostitutes despite all this freedom. Women go to university, rack up debt, work 40-50 hours a week and are then part time prostitutes, camgirls, sugar babies and Instathots who sell selfies and their underwear for thousands each month, just to pay the bills. Why do this when she could have started being a prostitute at 18 and avoided the debt and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:35 PM
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That is until the toilet backs up. A house full of shit would make a woman realise very quickly that she needs a man. All men need to do is go on strike one department at a time. You can live without electricity. You could find water. You could even hunt your own food. But the second the sewage workers stop, you're screwed. Nothing like being ankle deep in last week's digested food, medicine, and other discharged bodily fluids to make you realise how much you need someone so your life doesn't tu…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:18 PM
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Most men liked (and still do) their fantasy of a good girl too much. This is unfortunately a con women have pulled to appear vulnerable to trigger men's protective instincts. But most men will never get what they truly desire: a woman who is his intellectual and sexual equal. Instead there are too many girls who do not want to take responsibility and want a man to 'take the lead', provide and protect them. A replacement for daddy who will slave away for their benefit. Obviously, she'll take the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 11:09 PM
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And Red Pillers complain about female solipsism... No. This was one of the promises. That the sexual revolution would benefit men in general. It benefited top tier men only. It also screwed women over in that they now not only have to put out, the lack of commitment from men has also led to the growth of single motherhood. This sucks for the kids as well. So now she's single, overweight, poor, looking for a bailout rather than love. The mess in the dating market is the result of giving women too…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 10:54 PM
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In other words, the more useful you are to women, the greater your status.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:53 PM
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Is the mere knowledge of this fact an act of disloyalty? I think there are two problems women are not seeing or ignoring here. Being aware that person X likes you and is not far away isn't the problem. It's that you're saying they would be a prospect and you are admitting you could have them if you wanted. So while you're not cheating, it's not exactly a point in your favour that you think of that person as potential relationship material. Another issue is how uncaring it can come across to brag…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 11:43 PM
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Blame your fellow women and their sexual liberation. It's put men in a position where they cannot trust whether a woman is honest about her past, which is a track record showing her values. Men also don't know when women used sex as a tool or out of genuine desire. In other words, men have seen enough women jumping into bed with men they recently met to know that if she makes him wait, she's not that into him. Women still slut shame each other, yes, but that's mostly because women want the kind …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/07/19 11:08 PM
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We bully you because you're easy targets, not because you're terrifying jeez. But why? Wouldn't it be easier to just leave them be? When they show interest, women complain they're creepy rapists in waiting. When they check out and write women off, women complain they're still a problem. I think women like having a target for their scorn. They don't want unattractive men to win, but they definitely don't want them to stop trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:39 AM
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isn't that just a fact? 80% of men are mediocre By women's standards, yes. When women get to define masculinity, they prefer men who are useful to them first and foremost. I.e. he needs to work for her and serve her. As long as women get to determine the standards, most men will never be good enough, mostly because there isn't an 'enough' for women. If there were, most men would not be seen as mediocre or downright unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:33 AM
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Also, the idea that women want genetically superior men is laughable. Nikolas Cruz (former incel) receives tons of love letters because he shot up a school. Are men whom shoot up schools genetically superior to men whom struggled with getting a girl to love them (ex: Robin Williams and Elon Musk). I read somewhere that the quickest way for a man to get interest from a woman is to kill someone. Violence works really well in getting women's attention. For all this talk of how dangerous men are, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 09:03 AM
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Who gives a shit you don't need moids to keep doing it Moids? The origin of the tech is important because new tech is created all the time. There is also the issue of maintenance and who keeps things running. So who made the tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 08:52 AM
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It's not like the history of police in the US ever started with good intentions. The police started off as trackers for runaway slaves. They kept them in line using violence. And dogs. Ever wondered why black people hate dogs? The police force also has a nasty tendency to take just anyone. You could be an up and coming gang member and join the police. You'll have the easiest access to drugs. I once spoke to a kid who was assaulted in the street by two cops for having a small bag of weed. The off…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 01:11 AM
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Men of reddit: low class men beat women, date me instead Also men of reddit: firemen are safe good bois This makes no sense. Firemen are not necessarily low class. Also, have a look at stats on how often the violence in a relationship is reciprocal. Erin Pizzey discovered those women who were beaten were also attacking their men. And they were not all in self defense. 70% of the victims of non-reciprocal intimate partner violence are men. That means he'll stand there and take the abuse and not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:59 AM
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In 2019? No. Tech does that. Who developed the tech?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:52 AM
1

Now, not every man is my cousin, but every man has a bonus to harming women known as "testosterone". Testosterone is not harmful nor is it the cause of violence. It is a natural hormone. (Why do we never hear of testosterone being the reason men explore, save lives, sacrifice themselves for others or work hard and provide?) Or would it be fair to claim the abuse women cause is as a result of estrogen?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:50 AM
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Men save you from men, therefore that cancels out the risk of men? If men were less aggressive there would be no need for men to save women from men, Thing is men know that there are good guys and bad guys. They know those are the assholes over there who cause problems for others. As a man, I cannot tell other men to be less aggressive for anyone's benefit, let alone women's. All I can do is be one of the good ones and take responsibility for my own actions. I am not my brother's keeper. Thing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:46 AM
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I dont read what other people type PPD in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 10:02 PM
1

In England the council estates are packed with moms who have kids to score a pay cheque at the end of the month. When I was in primary school the teachers mentioned that while women can have money for the basics, they can abuse the system by churning out kids and getting paid to do so. In South Africa they get roughly $20-$30 a month from the state. It's not much but you can still work and receive assistance from the government. If you have like five kids, you can get more than $100 a month. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:14 PM
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you cant compare being pregnant against her will to this. wtf Did OP talk about women being impregnated against their will?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:04 PM
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I'm not sure it ever had a chance at life. Like OP's children?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 01:02 PM
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That’s because sex is something a man benefits from while women lose. Women here on PPD have argued repeatedly that a woman loses nothing when she has sex with men so her past promiscuity doesn't matter. So do you believe that women lose value when they sleep with lots of men? or suffering from any social stigma or shame. If you believe men suffer zero social shame regarding sex, you're very wrong. They’re less likely to get STDs. Bullshit. You do realise condoms prevent STDs for both men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:46 AM
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Apparently it’s only rape if the women is unattractive. (Men are the worst) This is an uncomfortable topic to discuss because rape used to be about theft of a woman's value in a violent manner. A virgin woman was worth more, so the price of the bride was higher. Some cultures still practice paying for brides. Another issue was that of paternity. A woman who was raped could get pregnant, which messed up the family's plans. So they'd go beat the shit out of the asshole who did it or forced him to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/19 09:32 AM
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You are obviously very unable to put yourself in women's shoes and show a sliver of empathy. You do realise that women do not show men a sliver of empathy either, right? Women are not entitled to anyone's empathy. Empathy is a luxury and a privilege. Men get this message drilled into their heads from when they're boys. One of the more common realisations people get when they come to this sub is the lack of empathy for men. So even leaning in that direction is not going to help your stance. You'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:30 PM
1

Whaddya do when you walk in and someone says 'have a seat.' (Laughter on cue) Do you take it? And if so, where to? Why'd you even invite me in? I'd like to help you out, buddy, but you're leaving me short on details here... (Seinfled intro music starts)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:12 PM
1

Rayman Rayman is a video game character. Raymond is the selfish, spineless momma's boy who married a frigid bitch of a woman, who hates his family. Yes, Debra isn't ugly but she's far from perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:08 PM
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and Tobias is obviously gay He is the world's first Analyst Therapist, also known as an 'analrapist' but pronounce the 'anal' like you would 'analyst' and rapist as you would in 'therapist'. Shit, I just realized therapist is 'the rapist.'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 10:02 PM
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In Nigeria, the age of consent is 11. In the Philippines it's 12 and Japan it is 13. In England and South Africa, it's 16. You can technically have sex at 16, shoot a video of it and be technically unable to watch it because the age restriction on porn is 18+. If you really wanted to mess with someone, ask them the following: If a young couple got married in Nigeria at 14, and made several sex videos throughout their marriage, what would happen if they dig out their old videos to watch when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:58 PM
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next time you get stupid drunk, Ill come steal your wallet and car. hopefully no one will have sympathy for you. It's more like you got drunk, in a dangerous neighbourhood, left your car unlocked, your wallet exposed and expected to make it into the store from the far end of a poorly lit parking lot, at 1am without anything bad happening to you. Now, no one deserves to be robbed. But you have to question the logic of putting yourself in a vulnerable situation then acting surprised or even indign…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 09:45 PM
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What i found out is, that a woman can be such a motive. Men like this become doormats and women find that unattractive. Also, women prefer ambitious men because it means those men will work for them. Their ambition translates into financial and material success. This saves women from having to support their men but it also ensures they can have a safety net in case they want to change careers or be stay at home moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 05:46 PM
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I dunno, why do you never hear about a guy dumping his newborn in the dumpster? Or why do women suffer vindictive mother syndrome? Hell, why do you never hear of men in the west using the law to force the women who they slept with to pay for kids they had little to no choice in having? Also, since women do abuse children, and since they are the primary perpetrators of non-reciprocal intimate partner violence, if they were bigger and stronger than men, they'd abuse them too. It's about who they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:16 PM
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Yes. Even men know men are dangerous. But if it's such a problem, don't leave your home. We assume risk everyday when we leave our homes. Do you know what other things are dangerous? driving and/or speeding eating processed foods (cancer) being obese smoking drinking alcohol lying to intentionally cause someone harm owning a weapon playing sport eating from animals that suffered before death doing drugs You know what could solve some of those problems? Islam. Yes, you could live a danger-free li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 08:26 AM
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The media has a powerful influence over culture through stories. Stories are part of who we are. We tell stories about everything, from going to work, to the last hangover. The media is so powerful, multinational corporations pay millions for a thirty second bite during peak viewership (sports events, prime time, election coverage etc). At the core of what media is, there is no difference between news and entertainment, at least not anymore. We receive stories from this box in the living room. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:17 PM
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But this is not an excuse to promote misogyny. They are writing to an audience who need to hear the hard truth. They've been protected from it. Dancing around it because the tone offends people isn't going to get the job done. And so what if they're being sexist? They're being sexist in their own little hole, far away from mainstream media. Mainstream media is rather misandrist, by the way, so if TRP gets you angry, you should be livid at the way the media represents men. On social media, you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 06:00 PM
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NAWALT and misogyny (of course) No no. Not nawalt. It's 'toxic femininity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 05:47 PM
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I rarely ever see testosterone being talked about in non-negative manner, let alone a positive manner; yet I've never read the term "estrogen-poisoned" in a description of a situation where women were being grade A cunts. It's the baseline misandry that permeates society - "men bad", "testosterone bad", "XY bad" etc. Yes, whenever someone talks about something being testosterone charged, they're never talking about the explorers who risked their lives to bring much needed resources to women and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:58 PM
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This is what's gotten me about the guys who post they had no idea how women were. Did they never play with the neighborhood kids when they were young? Playgrounds at school? Even women teachers acting like fuckheads? They must've grown up in some XY Themyscira. When you're a kid, especially a sheltered one, you're far less likely to see said 'fuckheadery'. Even if you do, you do not understand it because you're too young to know how the world works. I grew up in a conservative environment. Teach…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:44 PM
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I was raised to view women as perfect little innocents who could do no wrong. Pretty much this. Teachers were especially good at reinforcing the already established view that girls are made from sugar, spice and all things nice. Girls were to be respected and protected. So we were encouraged to be chivalrous, but not be too sexual in our approach. Treat her like a lady, said the feminist teachers. They neglected to tell the girls to respect boys. I found out years later after speaking to female …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 08:43 AM
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Jesus, those people are stupid. He asked her out on a DATE. She rejected the date part but still wanted to go as friends. He didn't want that. If he doesn't get the date he wants, why should she get the concert she wants? Since when does she get to set the conditions? Why must he go with someone who doesn't desire him? She isn't entitled to shit. Are these people that ignorant of how she's tried manipulating him? Flip the genders and I guarantee they'd be defending her choice not to go with the …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/06/19 07:42 AM
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Women are attracted to male features that serve them best. There's an almost universal preference among women for men who are tall, strong/athletic, hard working and preferably have money. If you want to know what women are attracted to, look at the men who get no interest from women whatsoever. Then simply substitute those traits for their opposites. Example: short, unemployed, lazy, unmotivated, poor, overweight. Ironically, women with those traits are still more likely to get dates, have sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:19 PM
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I don’t really work off of binary. There is attractive and unattractive to me but then there is a whole bunch of grey area where I could find them in an attractive light if they had the right personality but otherwise seem neutral to me. You say you don't work that way, then proceed to describe the same concept you denied. Neutral doesn't mean grey. If he doesn't turn you on, he's a 0, not a 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 11:12 PM
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I don't have to read a book on 'Forest Gnomeology' to know that Forest Gnomes are nonsense. You've literally just admitted you're ignorant of the subject matter you're discussing and criticising. Bad faith argument much?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 08:45 PM
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I think it’s important to have these discussions about chores, though. The resentment from chore talks and disagreements of the handling of chores is nothing compared with the resentment of one partner being overwhelmed with work + chore duties while the other partner gets relaxation time. Yes, have a discussion but also make sure you haven't picked a lazy partner. Additionally, if you're angry at your partner for having relaxation time, you already fucked up. If you believe you're the only one …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 02:18 PM
1

Attractive people never have to develop better personalities because people keep giving them what they want. They can afford to be selfish, stupid, vapid and have short attention spans. They can be shallow and move from relationship to relationship at will because there are always people around them giving them attention and validation. They are always in demand. There are also far more women who are bitches than men who are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 02:07 PM
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And they're watching cricket. Nice. Very average but nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 10:35 PM
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It seems that some ideas are based on the idea that women's self worth and value is based on what kind of man they are with and especially on the idea that women consider their men as trophies. Almost as trophies but more as status symbols. Ever noticed how women who marry rich, powerful men automatically get the status he has? Getting that implies she's worth that. So of course her self esteem is tied to the kind of partner she chooses. Why else would a woman leave unemployed men at a far highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 12:22 PM
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Jealousy. There's nothing else to it. The thought that you could lose your partner to someone else would ignite some serious fear and insecurity. Overcoming that requires emotional maturity and strength most people don't have. You'd need to grow up in a culture where being poly was considered acceptable. Then people wouldn't find sharing partners as much of an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:37 PM
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Many women who marry young to unsuccessful/mediocre men while helping and supporting them through school and/or low paying jobs end up being left for a much younger woman right after their husband becomes successful (a sort of horrible macchiavelli-like upgrade) Starting wife is much more common than starting husband. This goes against the common red pill trope which says: marry young so your husband will cherish you even in old age (husband glasses) and you will have picked the best option. RP …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 05:13 PM
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So it’s ok to leave them after she has been loyal and loving to you for decades? By Felicia. No, it's just most women talk about themselves as being worth more. Like they talk about how lazy their men are but ignore their own flaws almost like they're entitled to good quality men by default. Why'd she marry a lazy, low quality guy if she believes she's worth more? Or why didn't she vet better? There's a good chance OP is someone who attracts low value partners because they are not that high valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 04:58 PM
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Who gives a fuck about Brooklyn 99 anyway. You bastard...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 09:50 PM
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OK, so where is my right as a woman to transfer the fetus over to a man? Oops, that would be science fiction. So let's ignore the multiple ways in which you, a woman, can avoid being pregnant, snuff out the potential life of a child and abandon said child with support from society. Since you're using the 'I carry the child argument', you're saying that a man should pay for 18 years because you carried a child for nine months? If he doesn't pay, he goes to jail. You don't even have to have the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 09:46 PM
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That post wasn't about men liking skinny women (men like all kinds of women). It was that there are ways to lose weight and to highlight how easy it is for women to not be fat. This was way, waaay easier to do than when men have to exercise to appeal to women's preferences. I guess many men prefer a thinner woman for LTR compared to one night stand because they think (wrongly, as there are many thin women who became permanently overweight after childbirth) that a very thin woman will not become …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 06:36 PM
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You need to be wary of photoshopped pics. There are some images guys edit to make women's hips and thighs look bigger. The first one is Ashley Graham and her stomach is not that flat. She's definitely as chubby as the women in OP's post. The last image looks very disproportionate. Additionally, some women get implants to accentuate their curves. Number 3 looks like she may have had some work done. Maybe it's all natural but be careful about random images of curvy women online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 05:51 PM
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Yeah was about to say. That looks like Ashley Graham and she's definitely as chubby/fat as the women in the pics OP posted. That doesn't mean she's unattractive but she's definitely been shopped. Here's a different pic: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSFL8AW4ivB2pCf_rmOhU64oOtNU6g3O63SUKCMBB3ZO64g43tJgw
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 05:43 PM
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The chubbier they are, the easier they are! But even chubby women are picky because most men are okay with sleeping with chubby women. So they do get attention from men, especially if their chubbiness manifests itself in specific areas, if you catch my drift. I do think it is easier for men who like chubby women to get dates but I've seen chubby women throw themselves at the same men more slender women desire. I've also known some chubby women who were party animals and, subsequently, were quite…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 05:39 PM
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Unfortunately not all restaurants put calories on the menu and it takes having to know what calories look like to know you're over eating. You...can ask the restaurant about portion size. Or go to restaurants that know how much they are saving. There's also common sense. If you go out and eat hamburgers and ice cream, you cannot complain about picking up weight because they didn't show you the calories. You could opt for grilled chicken and vegetables instead. I don't know how to explain it besi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:37 AM
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Yeah... none of that addresses anything I said. All I said was there was a gender data gap. You said things are far more gendered than people know but we're talking about peoples' eating choices. You dragged in a gendered agenda here and when I pointed out it doesn't change peoples' poor eating choices, you claim it doesn't address what you wrote. What you wrote has little to do with peoples' weight gain so it's the wrong context to address the issues you highlighted. You're welcome to write a n…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:27 AM
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Start with a 16 hour fast between your last and next meal and see how it goes. Then work your way up to 20-24 hours. Once you know how your worst hunger feels, which is more like your body going cold turkey from carbs and sugar, you get used to it and don't fear it. Then try to fast for a day and a half, two days etc. You lose weight, save money and you age slower too! Mastering your hunger and resisting a potential food addiction is very possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/19 07:16 AM
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It's not even "not eating out all the time". It's basically "never eating out at all" So it's the restaurant's fault you're overweight? And you're incapable of cooking at home? You don't have to eat at unhealthy restaurants either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:30 PM
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She’s pointing out a gender data gap. What? That women are weaker at resisting food than men are? It’s hardly blaming anyone, she’s just stating that this is how things are because the world is catered to men in more ways than you even realise. Is anyone forcing you to eat all the food? Are you incapable of ordering a different meal or checking the portion size on the menu? Do you have to eat out when you could cook instead and have better control over your diet? Overeating and restaurant servin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 06:23 PM
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You could survive without eating for two or three days or longer depending on your weight. We eat way more than our ancestors did. Food wasn't always easy to come by so people would go hungry for days at a time. There are still plenty of people who go to bed hungry and survive. That intense hunger you feel goes away if you ween yourself off sugar and carbs, or limit yourself to one meal a day. Unless you are an athlete in training, eating three or more times a day is a bad idea if you want to ke…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:52 PM
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Who the fuck wants to work out at 4am?? No one does. But it's the price you pay if you want to look good. It may be the only time they can go because they have work or college later. Or maybe they spend time with their kids before they hit the sack at like 6pm :/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:14 AM
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Question is, why are y'all dating chicks that dont lift???? Women claim it's because they don't want to look like men by getting muscular. There's an element of fear of being seen as too masculine and women generally want to feel dainty and small, not huge and hulking. But I think it's also laziness. Lifting is hard but running/walking on the treadmill for 30 minutes isn't as bad once you're fit enough. But there are always heavier weights to try and you can never quite be 'strong enough', which…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:10 AM
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Women believe the bar they set for a partner isn't too high so meeting their minimum requirements, no matter how ridiculous they are, is expected. Those guys who have muscle but are not too muscular still spend hours exercising every week and they watch their diets closely. For example, look at what men have to do to become models (for less pay) compared to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 07:02 AM
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It seems like I’m supposed to be essentially advertising myself or putting on a mask at almost all times. I was on my way to doing this anyway but it kinda sucks. That's how dating tends to work. You put your best 'mask' on and hope they're interested enough to overlook your flaws. It's not honest nor has it ever been. You're not supposed to overwhelm the other person when you first meet. So I guess my question is, is there ever a time when you can be completely transparent about your flaws and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 07:57 AM
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Down low!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 11:28 PM
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The men who need RP's help are weak. They haven't got the strength to handle a marriage and will destroy it with their ineptitude, and with the help of resentful women. They're also aware of how easy it is for women to control relationships and consider it 'the norm' when he is basically like a trained dog, barking 'yes, dear!' at the slightest hint of a task from her neverending to-do list. These men have seen their dads get dominated because those men feared loneliness, social embarrasment and…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:52 PM
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At no point was my argument that men need to be made to pay child support, but you cannot take the fact that child support is meant to support the child out of the equation entirely. Again, I AM ALL FOR MEN BEING ABLE TO WAIVE ALL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDING PAYING CHILD SUPPORT, but it will have real world ramifications and real children that maybe have mothers who for moral/religious reasons didn't feel abortion or fostercare was an option for them who live in a situation where just …
/r/MensRights19/06/19 08:11 AM
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A passive woman isn't going to change for men's benefit. If she's a nice person, but cannot stand up for herself, she's hoping for a mind reader to understand her position on sex. If she's a terrible person, passivity gets her out of responsibility: "It just happened!" It also leaves her wiggle room in case she's caught cheating or dad catches her with the boyfriend: "Rape!" There's no way women are going to give up that kind of power because it would make men's lives easier. Women could solve t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:09 AM
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She thought it would be enough to say she didn't want to have sex andnthey could then continue just having a nice evening. And it wasn't like he immediately went back, he then did just that, continued having a nice tine then went back several more times after she'd been clear she didn't want to do that. So I imagine she was just focusing on thr nice parts and didn't understand why he kept trying to ruin it or why he wasn't listening to her. How can being in the presence of someone who wants to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 07:00 AM
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The problem with the 'It's in the child's best interest' argument is that the mom is not punished for not considering the child's best interest. Women: - Have a ton of birth control options and, as the gatekeeper of sex, can insist on only having sex with men who use protection. A man refusing to do so would be considered a rapist if he had unprotected sex with her if they agreed to use condoms. Can abort the baby. Is killing an unborn child doing something in its best interest? Give their child…
/r/MensRights18/06/19 08:06 PM
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Wait a few years and you realize that a person can be a loving wife and mother and still consider women equally worthy as men. Where did she say women were not equal to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 08:20 AM
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its just that men face a disproportionaltly high amount of rejections, so women are put in the situation far less often. This is a good point. If initiation was more 50/50 we'd probably get a more even spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 04:02 PM
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I read once of a woman who decided to take a baseball bat to the car of her no good ex. She knows where he lives and sees a car outside his place. She goes crazy, kicking, hitting and screaming. Ex runs out wondering what the commotion is about, only to discover his ex fucking up the neighbour's car. Neighbour went to the cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:58 PM
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Mother of god. These are horror stories. I hope the current/next one isn't abusive, a drug addict, crazy or anything like the women you just described.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 03:50 PM
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Have you fellas dealt with anything similar? Has a woman gone crazy on you for saying no? Was it online or in person? Oh yes. Couple of crazy ones online. Been harassed, sworn at, insulted, called all sorts of names. And why do women call a man gay if he refuses? Are their egos that fragile that they cannot imagine a man may say no? Or do they genuinely believe that men won't say no? Women do not deal with rejection well, even in relationships. Side note: getting a phone call from a guy asking w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 01:29 PM
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Woman 2. She cares about her appearance. As long as she's pleasant to be around, and enjoys sex, she's definitely a better choice than the CEO.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 07:53 PM
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Starving people who have eaten junk food for years who have not eaten healthy, delicious, gourmet food will probably crave junk food only insofar as they are craving food. They haven't tasted any better and that's all they know as food. I don't think people can be starving and eating junk food for years. I think you missed the point there. I assume you mean people who starved and THEN ate junk food won't crave for better? I don't want to complicate the analogy further but the point is that peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 07:44 PM
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Almost. Except it's more like someone who is dirt poor not being able to afford junk food, then getting a job where they can buy whatever they want. People who've had it for years know there's better out there but it's because they were born able to have it from the start. Starve even the snobbiest of food snobs long enough and they'd kill for a bite of junk food. instead of eating nutritious meals. People value experiences differently. To someone who is starving, junk food's a delicious life sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 02:01 PM
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Sure but if you're not married, leaving's a lot easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 08:00 AM
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What are your thoughts on grown women raping minors? That should be a little clearer. If not, how about this? What are your thoughts on adults having sex with minors?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:34 PM
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My point is that if you actually want to pursue a meaningful relationship, this is literally your only option. Yes and that only option comes with costs so high, they're unsustainable and would impact other parts of your life negatively. You're leaning too hard on the Just World Fallacy. What you're saying is like what people claim they'd do if they were poor: work hard, study, get to a good college and get a job. In reality, most poor people stay poor, do menial or physically demanding jobs and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 10:39 AM
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I don't want to end up married to some post-wall woman who will refuse to do sexual things with me that she would have done to some rando in a night club toilet 10 years prior. Have a look at the datingoverthirty subreddit for sob stories from former carousel riders who now want to settle down, but Chad is nowhere to be found. Some have made peace with the fact that they'll be cat ladies. A lot are single moms. Usually being a single mom is proof of riding the CC, otherwise little Tyrone wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 08:53 AM
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Pick Me's are the female version of niceguys. They'll bend over backwards and do the most just to say that they have a man, while not holding that man to any standards. If less pickmes opened their legs and sold their soul just for a crumb of male validation, there would be more men striving to be good partners. I.e. sluts lower the cost of sex and women collectively lose out when some open their legs because they actually like men. That being said, what you described is someone who is a doormat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 08:17 AM
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It's probably insecurity more than sexism. Women's biggest fear is loss of status, attention and relevance. Losing her youth = losing her status. So to feel better about Chad not showing interest in her, she claims he is flawed and so are the younger women he dates. It's more sour grapes, like when you see angry guys claiming a woman has hit the wall in her late 20s. It's just a way to feel better about their situation by bringing others down. The insults are a bit sexist, such as calling the gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 07:00 AM
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I hardly find it to be an invalid inquiry or topic of discussion. Okay but then how is it different from, say, just studying sociology? Or would philosophy not cover it's topics adequately?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:26 AM
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does anyone on this sub actually know what gender studies is? It's been around long enough to have urban myths attached to it. Gender studies was always a feminist thing. It's a way to justify paying someone to tell others they're doing gender the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 06:18 AM
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That's how we got into this mess in the first place!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:03 PM
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She can’t help she feels less threatened and so more comfortable around screaming female fans than she does around screaming erect penises twice her strength. Nor can men help it if women feel this way. The double standard doesn't make women seem capable of handling the scary outside world. All it's saying is that women fear being touced more by men than by women. If we're concerned because of the potential consequences, then men may as well be segregated from women to save everyone from potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 05:18 PM
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Assuming the poster is an above average looking girl, has no children, isnt in debt...men still just want to fuck. Yes...and so? Men have and do commit to women but looking for a LTR on an app known for hook ups is a bad place to do it. But even so, the woman you described also wants to fuck. Even if she turns down offers of sex with good looking men to get an average boyfriend, she's not going to be celibate in the relationship. Men and women desire sex but men are more honest about what they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 07:46 AM
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Yeah but that doesn't mean you should put words in someone's mouth. Address the argument you have before you, not the agenda-driven strawman. You also insulted someone for asking for proof of your assertion. How can anyone take your view seriously if you're resorting to insults and sarcasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 07:14 AM
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Aside from the fact that you're looking for love in a place for hookups, you're missing the meta discussion men are trying to get women to understand. See all that hooking up and lack of commitment? You should be super angry at modern women for dishing out sex easily to Chad. Women opened Pandora's box of promiscuity and men, who do desire sex, realised what was happening. Women give out commitment free sex to the attractive men then want the less attractive men to put in more work. Because men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 06:59 PM
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If you’re paying CS and the kids aren’t being taken care of, take her to court. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. So naïve. Iirc ABC did a news segment on the myth of the deadbeat dad. There are dads who pay their child support but mom keeps the kids from them. Mom may also poison their minds and lie to them making them hate their dad. Those men have tried the court route and officers of the court cannot be with you every time you go pick up your kids. What does a dad do if mom says no or she's lied a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:59 AM
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So because women have uteruses and birth the children Nine months vs 18 years and jail time. How are those equal? For some reason women believe the use of their sex organs once plus the natural result of unprotected sex should mean he doesn't get a say and should pay up. With this argument, any man who did manual labour that women are unable or even unwilling to do should entitle them to sex for 18 years with any woman they once dated regardless of her relationship status. If she fails to sleep …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 06:51 AM
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I'm mad attracted to some of them Brown ladies I'm pretty light myself but instead of enjoying the thin, bootyless white women around me, I preferred darker women. Much to my mom's openly racist chagrine. Married a woman who is mixed with gorgeous, curly hair. This was very much against what we were told growing up, which was to marry someone with light skin and straight hair. I look forward to our ethnically ambiguous spawn XD Oh and brown ladies are just built better. Thick and curvy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 07:03 AM
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They bitch about what whores women are but how they can't get anyone to fuck them. Because this isn't the first time this has happened. You'd be pretty pissed off too if you went a decade trying to attract a partner and are just rejected every time. There's also the issue that men expressing vulnerability in any way, aside from anger, is seen as weakness. If women pity fucked men who expressed their emotions in a more feminine friendly way, they wouldn't call women whores. You could claim that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 09:20 AM
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It's called the empathy gap. If men are suffering due to a lack of love or intimacy, women couldn't give a damn because they don't want to be inconvenienced and they could never understand why this is such a problem. Men shouldn't need women's approval on expressing what's hurting. The difference is if she feels lonely and unloved, she's got support from friends and family. As you said, she's done the same thing she's accusing men of doing (shaming men for expressing their feelings) then claimed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 08:23 AM
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The difference is that porn gives men an unrealistic standard of what women look like naked This is not true. Otherwise superhero movies would give everyone unrealistic expectations about their physical limits. If you're going to assume that media affects people to that extent, you'd have to assume all other types of (passively received) media would have similar effects. Violent video games and rap music do not turn people into mass murderers. The people who are affected are a minority and if me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 08:12 AM
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Escort to get the money off your back? FTFY cos that's all it's about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 07:09 AM
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Platonic cuddling There is a level of intimacy sex offers that even cuddling can't get to. Sex is instinctual to humans. Living without it, no matter how we try to justify that it's not a need, is going to be awful. If it wasn't a need, people wouldn't seek it out as much. Platonic cuddling is just going to lead to a serious case of blue balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/19 06:36 AM
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My experience with strap ons has also given me enormous appreciation for the athleticism involved in thrusting. I think women don’t appreciate the amount of effort (mental and physical) that men have to put into sex to please their partner. And don't forget that he can't cum too quickly and he needs to maintain a strong erection throughout. The thrusting is already exhausting but riding the line between her enjoyment and your focus on trying your damndest not to explode two minutes in is also qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 09:08 PM
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I get this but that's an argument about technique and preference. There are women who don't like oral or women who need hard thrusts to climax. But despite this, no woman really wants a man who orgasms after a couple of thrusts, even if he has great oral game. Let's also not forget that women insult men for not lasting long enough. If only they'd try a strap on and have to thrust for 10mins or longer they'd realise the back breaking labour it takes to get them off. They'd be a lot more sympathet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 09:03 PM
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You are assuming all women just starfish though, this ain't the case. I didn't say all women. I added a condition that when men see that they're getting starfish sex and they get burned (maybe she's cheating), he assumes women use sex to get shit from men. I also said that men don't know when women choose to use sex as a tool as opposed to when it's used as an expression of desire. A guy who is getting starfish isn't seeing that lustful side of his partner. If he doesn't know what her desirw loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:57 PM
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What uncomfortable questions? Well, if you absolutely must know... Why create an environment where you place a tree that has fruit someone cannot eat from? Why not do the responsible thing and place it in a highly inaccessible spot? Or better yet, just don't create it. Leaving two new beings you've just created to run around without some supervision is a little irresponsible. Why not have a guardian angel protect them from le snek or from going near the tree? Why exactly is the fallen angle hang…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:33 AM
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This. The reason men say women don't like sex is because those men haven't figured out how to give her those toe curling, body shaking orgasms. Once you've experienced it, you aren't going to say you hate it. BUT, women give guys so little to work with and not many women are okay with teaching men how to be good lovers. There's also the burden of performance men have. Take note how you had to stumble your way through sex and if it's done poorly, you failed. This is partially because the male ego…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 08:05 AM
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Yeah because men *cheat more* than women. It's that simple Ha! You haven't met my exes nor the women who cheated on their partners with me. It was rather eye opening to discover that I was 'the other guy'. Also awkward AF to answer a call from an unknown number wanting to know my relationship with someone I was seeing. It's a lot closer to 50/50 than you think. Easy to find the stats online.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:36 PM
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and like an idiot was led around by the dick. It's not like he could adopt abundance mentality in the Garden of Eden. Eve was all he had so there was no way he was going to piss off his supply of sexual intimacy. The dude was so lonely before that God had to make a female clone from his body. All they did when she was...erm...'born'...was fuck. He finally gets to do more than jerk off and fondle the wildlife, and all she's asking is to nibble on some fruit. Now, if anyone ever questions men's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:27 PM
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someday some women want a Big Mac. Sheeeeeyit. How'd you know my nickname at university?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 03:16 PM
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Height usually isn't as important a requirement as staying in shape or being pleasant to be around. Guys generally don't care how tall she is. There are very tall women who are also beautiful, but who will struggle because men taller than her are rare. Men shorter than her won't wtite her off. She'll price herself out of the market for not wanting to...er...lower her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:43 AM
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Never trust someone who says they find personality attractive. They will almost always find an attractive personality on someone who is physically attractive too. We know women like tall men. Any justification that even a short guy can be hot is usually just virtue signalling. Women are quite shallow when it comes to height, something men cannot change easily. Women when writings their online dating profiles: "You must be this tall to ride..."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:37 AM
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People on reddit: That's why people dont like asian guys! *completely ignoring kpop, jpop, and anime fans* If you think the average Asian dude looks like a kpop star, you're sadly mistaken. You've highlighted like the smallest minority of very attractive men who are mostly only attractive to Asian women. But Asia is way more than South Korea or Japan. What about men from India or China? What about Thailand or Bangladesh? I've lived in Asia and foreign women just will not date Asian men. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 04:29 AM
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Really really bitchy behavior. Women that throw tantrums when mad. Behaving really childish when mad. Sometimes my mom slams her bedroom door when she is mad about something, I would call that toxic. Slamming the door doesn't fix anything! lol I don't know if this is toxic femininity or if it's because many women are emotionally coddled to the point that they get away with temper tantrums and emotionally immature behavior. If you mean bitchiness like gossip, passive aggressive behavior or emotio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:03 PM
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The few who didn't are living OK lives but they live in monk mode and have developed mental issues due to social isolation. This is why the suicide rate is so high. If the world cannot find a use for a man, he is not worthy of love. Even a homeless man will have a homeless girlfriend if he can benefit her in some material way. Until we stop dehumanising men or attributing their value as human beings to their ability to produce something, they'll continue to suffer and die and no one will give a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:42 AM
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That's how the world has always been. Look at how we treat the most vulnerable members of society: disabled, war veterans, the elderly etc. If they are men and cannot serve society or women, we have no use for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 04:28 AM
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I don't see any sane women being so disgusted at the fact that he never in his life entered a pussy and will never touch her golden kitten For people who allegedly could not care less about virginity, they sure do use it disparagingly when they want to attack or insult men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 08:20 PM
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Apparently, it's too expensive to afford men those kind of choices even when women get more taxpayer funded services. Depending on where you live, if you're a single mom, you always have money or even a place to stay coming your way. I know someone who grew up in England and he said women can have multiple kids there and get more money for every child they have out of wedlock. So women have like 5 kids and score a bigger cheque every month. But no, paternity testing to ensure children know who t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/19 07:59 AM
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What do you want us to be treated like? Shit? Not being treated like a princess doesn't automatically being treated like shit. It means treating her like a normal human being. It means not pedestalising her, something a princess would want. And why's that bad? Because it's a signal that she's emotionally immature and expects more privilege. That's fine if she can snag a guy who will treat her well AND be attractive to her. However, most women want the privilege without any responsibility: they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 09:12 PM
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I WAS going to go with Richard Ramsbottom, but that doesn't convey much about length or thickness. Still a good name though hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/19 05:01 AM
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90s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:18 PM
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The real winners are thick and long. ;) Ah, Mr Thicken Longshaft! Pleased to make your acquaintance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:04 PM
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8"? So below average then? XD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 03:03 PM
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Let me see... Tequila Mockingbird? No. To Kill A Rocking Boat? To Spill A Sticky Load? To Eat Some Cheese Curds? Nah. To...something...something. I dunno. Help me out here, guys!
/r/MensRights31/05/19 02:59 PM
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I meant unicorn more in the sense that it was someone who you could be your genuine self with, with a minimum of the work that the RP tells you is needful to keep her attention. You'd have to find a woman who appreciates a man for who he is and not what he does. The way to prove this is to see if an average woman is attracted to an average man because he is nice, is virtuous and is trustworthy. Not because he is tall, has social status or could give her a life of luxury. In other words, a unicor…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:01 AM
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So...what happened? How'd she get away?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 09:48 AM
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a lot of young men make fun of women's hobbies. I've been sewing since I was a little girl but I was super embarressed about that as a teenager because the boys would call me a grandma. So I thought the way to be attractive is to let go of that and mimick whatever boys like. Everyone makes fun of everyone for something. When I was a kid, video games were foreign to girls so when gamer girls came along, men didn't want to believe them, especially after years of being ridiculed. It seems that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 09:47 AM
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That's why I said that if you are not happy with american laws then change them to be similar to those in northern Europe. They can't. They're outnumbered (more female voters) in a society that would rather see them enslaved or dead. Women just don't care enough. Men gave women the right to vote without much of a fight. They allowed women to work and own their own property without a war. Women then used this to their advantage and men's detriment. There are more female voters in the US. Getting …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:20 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head here. There's also the matter of value. Women see the improvement in their lifestyle and access to validation as a reflection of their value, thus men cannot compete unless he can improve on an already comfortable quality of life. What else does she need a man for if she's got everything else? At that point it's about vanity. She needs someone with status so she can take a leap in social status as well. As you climb the socio-economic ladder, there are fewer …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:11 AM
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Ok but how do you get them to approach you?? Make sure your skin is clear and your teeth are in good shape. Speaking of shape, make sure you are in shape. The better your BMI the better quality partners will approach. You don't have to be a fitness model but as long as a man can make out your curves, you have something he wants to look at. Most guys tend to prefer women with some meat on them, so some squats are not a bad idea. Take care of your hair. A general rule of thumb is longer is more fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 02:03 PM
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r/ppdgonewild
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 07:39 AM
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Oh I was going to reply Then what was the point of what you wrote? but I don't see much of a point since you are just venting. Vent away sometimes we need to let off some steam Sarcasm is a common coping mechanism to belittle a threat. You don't have to agree with me, but you're only lying to yourself here by refusing to engage because it's much comfier on your high horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 03:24 PM
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I am already taken so no, I don't need to move anywhere. The previous poster was telling Dash of Islam to move somewhere else and that she asked her boyfriend out. I was pointing out that moving to a new city doesn't mean women there will be more inclined to approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 10:33 AM
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But I would also like it if men would be more constructive here and think about how the women in our society are falling into sometimes life destroying mistakes. Any criticism of women is shot down as sexism. When men and womrn say that women sleeping around is a bad idea, no one listens to them. Instead they get told not to oppress women's sexuality. Nevermind that it's a bad idea to spend your youth chasing new relationship highs, casual sex and a party lifestyle. Or that it's bad to date men …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 08:06 AM
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And millions of men body shame women who are: Is this mainstream or done on small anonymous corners of the internet? Because I don't know a place where millions of men gather to body shame women. I do know places where men gather who enjoy looking at women of multiple ages, shapes and sizes. Hell, BBW porn is a thing. Now you see a tiny taste of how women feel. If you think men feel less shitty about their experiences, you're going to lose at the Oppression Olympics.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:35 AM
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I feel like you need to live in a different area than you do. All of your responses have the same theme. Find a new area with better people. Where is this new area, this magical land of unicorns, affordable homes and considerate women who ask men out, of which you speak? You may have asked out some guys but you're a drop of water in a mostly barren desert.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 08:27 AM
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Reminds me of why I'll never understand why my gf likes creampies. They're so messy I would hate them myself, so sometimes I wonder when she's going to get sick of cleaning of the mess. She's never going to get tired of the feeling of you busting a load inside of her. She'll get tired of having to clean up afterwards...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 04:37 PM
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Non native English speakers here need to school themselves on the use of generic you. If you want them to understand you and be part of the conversation this is no way to do it. You could have explained it a lot better than 'learn English or gtfo'. Chill the fuck out. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 10:16 AM
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Brain before a nut: sex! sex! sexy sex!! Brain after a nut: I should learn how to code.... It's also called "cumming to your senses" hehe Is this because one orgasm is enough for guys to be down and out, and clear the sexual fog out of their head? Sometimes one isn't enough. If you can squirt squeeze get another one or two out, why not? There's also a prostate orgasm very patient men could try. You can have a few of those. Also do you ever feel like a different person after sex? Like your hormon…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 06:52 AM
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To me the context is important. If she's still a virgin at 30 there's something wrong. Likewise if she has an n count of 20 at 19 it's also a red flag. It's also unreasonable to assume she would stay completely sexless in her youth. Ideally she'd have a single digit n count and a history of having sex in committed relationships but once she closes in on about 20 I'd get worried. It does depend on context (someone in their 40s might have higher n counts) and if she's actually been able to stay in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 01:06 PM
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The wall is a myth, that's my conclusion at least The wall doesn't mean you'll be a cat lady if you aren't married at 30. It means that a womans SMV declines as she ages and she cannot get the quality man that was once available to her. Otherwise she wouldn't be single in her late 30s/early 40s. It also doesn't mean that men stop pursuing women in their age range. But more that this: I was not prepared for the amount of men blowing up my phone, offering to take me to dinner. It was actually a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 11:48 AM
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I think the issue is men don't know HOW to be sexy. Like, women have all these outfits, can learn a few hip and but shaking moves, have makeup and can be playful and girly...and we'll just melt. But men just have no clue so they let what sexisness they have slip. She doesn't want to tell him and NOT fucking an unsexy guy ain't so bad. So the sex fizzles out. Don't touch her like a roommate. Don't treat her like an unsexy nanny/cleaner/cook. Touch her like she's your lover and fuck her like she's…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:54 AM
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whores not being called out for being whores and Chads openly displaying their red pilled prowess of how easy modern female sluts are. And we wonder why the US birth rate is declining. Men do not want to approach because they don't want to be seen as creepy. Then they have sex with someone they barely know due to hookup culture. She can then allege rape or claim he is the father. He can survive both, but is the stress worth it? There are double standards here too as women seek traditionally masc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen24/05/19 06:22 AM
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I think single moms get blamed for this more than they should and having a strong father doesn't mean the son isn't going to be different and a momma's boy. No. Single moms are blamed for creating shitty conditions for their kids to grow up in and not understanding what it's like to grow up as a boy. There's a greater chance of a man being in jail growing up with a single mom. Mama's boy turning into a beta beats mama's boy turning into a criminal. At least having his dad there reduces the chanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 06:37 PM
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Do you think that the biggest problem sexless guys have is being fat though? I tend to think it's passivity and inhibition. Maybe that's just the people I know. Well, the extea weight leads to confidence dips. He gets rejected and his self esteem is shot so it's less likely he'll be brave enough to try being anything more than passive and inhibited. So some exercise, sport and a healthier diet will boost testosterone, confidence and social skills. One of the biggest problems with being overweigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 09:31 PM
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And women have the right to choose but men do not. Pregnancy is a choice, fatherhood isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:24 AM
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Alternatively we could do the right thing and just let the kid/mom go hungry. There are many homeless and hungry people in the world. Most of them are men. Did you think about 'the right thing' when walking past them on the way to work? There is care and there is injustice. Why didn't the woman think abour 'doing the right thing' and not forcing someone into parenthood? Women fight the government for the right to not be forced into parenthood. They are, however, very happy to force men into pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:22 AM
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I feel because they are not even giving the other girl the time of day. They've tried. They still get rejected. Men get rejected far more than they're succesful. It's not even close to 50/50. It's more like a 10-20% success rate. They are easily falling into being "oribitors" or chasing after a girl that they know friendzoned them Because this woman's at least being nice. He's trying to show her his virtue but women are not attracted to good men. They're attracted to sexy men. The friendzoned gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:45 PM
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Maslow was talking about the survival of the race. It's not, but when people describe as a NEED, that's a red flag. Your entire argument is about semantics. You could claim humans don't 'need' emotional connections, companionship or even intimacy from touch. You could even claim babies don't need their parents to touch them to survive. But you'd be robbing them of an expression of love and joy in their lives for the sake of being right. You may as well have made a post saying "You don't NEED to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 01:38 PM
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I think what the previous poster is seeing is that women are not attracted to most men so their justifications for sex go from lust to utility and it's difficult to tell the difference usually. The easy ones are when you can clearly see she's a gold digger. The harder ones are when sex slowly dries up in a LTR. It may not be with malicious intent. Furthermore, the previous poster may not have experienced or noticed a woman lusting after him. It's not an attack on how attractive they are but also…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 09:37 AM
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Another way is to make single moms pay for having kids out of wedlock. Like have a one child policy for unwed moms. She pays nothing but child suppprt is dependent on whether he agrees to be a dad or not. If she has a second kid, she pays a small fine. More kids equals bigger fines. Single motherhood would decrease very quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 07:13 AM
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Women have complained about worse for their safety and gotten a lot more support. It is ridiculous but men don't have the protection women do if something goes wrong. If a man harasses her, she can have him fired, moved or even score herself some benefits. His reputation is tarnished, his career may be over and his relationship may suffer too. I remember a guy at work who kissed a woman on her forehead. He was being condescending but not sexual. She threatened the company. As compensation they p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 08:11 AM
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fire the guilty parties No one said they were guilty. Just that it's easier to dispose of the guy than have to deal with paying anything out. It's just shifting the blame to someone who is easier to hate. You know, because being born with a penis somehow makes him guilty first. I mean, you already decided he was guilty. policy which you said yourself has made it better for all involved? Wow. What a concept. 🤯 It's cute that you think the company did this for anyone else's benefit. Companies choo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 11:55 PM
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They're saying '666' now. 6ft tall, 6 figure salary and 6 inch penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:39 PM
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At least that's what my buddy says r/suicidebywords Damn, didn't know PPD still had any funny left.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:35 PM
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She's the fabled unicorn, guys. Surely other men will see it. Right? ... Right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/05/19 10:09 AM
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This is true, however there's some element of projection. Part of the reason RP says women are unable to love men the way they want to be loved is because they give the kind of love they want. There's also some projection when women desire men to take charge. When the men don't and women do, women aren't happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 02:48 PM
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However, if you think about it, does the stereotypical man who catcalls women really have a 'bar' for who he'll catcall? Is it really "an attractive woman", or just "a feminine-presenting shape"? If a man is willing to catcall every woman who passes his way, that says absolutely nothing about how attractive she is, only that she looks like she might have a vagina. I don't know why women would assume these guys believe that catcalling works. It never has. They know they are just being douchebags.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:42 AM
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This is just a very male view, you don’t even know that people give bad attention and prey on women they think are too ugly or fat to say no, it’s just finding easy targets. Okay so what is it then? Ugly girls get no attention or they do? If ugly men were complaining that women were giving them attention they'd be called out for their entitlement. No one gets to live in this perfect world where only people they are attracted to show them romantic interest. When I was in my early 20s, a woman who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 08:32 AM
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I know you're trying to be smart but it comes across as not being willing to engage. For example, you're attributing the victim complex to the manosphere but OKCupid did the study and - in a polite, kind, unthreatening way - said 'ouch!'. Try to imagine if men were the ones telling women they weren't up to scratch when women already have body image issues (men and the media get the blame here). It would have been a lot harsher. The article was trying to show they were on men's side without tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:56 PM
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Y'all have never seen rich men with mistresses? Nor rich men with multiple wives? Women are willing to share under the right conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:28 PM
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Because at the core, someone still finds that person attractive enough to offer attention. Whether it's healthy or not, it's still attention which means the person is somewhat desirable. Whether the feeling is mutual is a different issue. By contrast, most men will experience the kind of loneliness the average woman is unlikely to. We're talking fading into the background, long-ish dry spells, and having to scrape ever closer to the bottom of the barrel for companionship kind of loneliness. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:17 PM
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I think the issue here is jealousy. Without emotional maturity, this is not going to go down well. There's also the issue of who's getting the most attention/sex/resources etc. It's why Islam explicitly tells men that if they want multiple wives, they better be able to provide for all of them equally, including spending equal time with them all. So if you buy one a house, be prepared to buy all wives a house each of the same value. Also, how many guys would be ok with how easily their partners c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:00 PM
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I wonder if women would support polygamy if it guaranteed access to top quality men. They'd have to be willing to share, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 08:51 AM
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That's not just a RP power. People have been whining on the internet since it began!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:50 AM
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Things I desire in a man: Intelligence No kids Maybe try being what you desire in a partner? Amazing how these women desire these perfect partners after they've been pumped and dumped. Where was this list when you were a kind, intelligent, child-free woman?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/05/19 09:49 PM
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The ones who influence laws and policies yes. They may not be the majority, but they are the ones who are pushing a sexist narrative that the rest are following. The problem is not the coffee shop feminists who are feminist in name. These women still believe they're fighting the good fight but still desire (top) men and will submit to Chad. The problem is when universities have feminists pushing out a false narrative about men, rape or men seeking equality. Go look at how feminists threatened pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:59 AM
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A male prostitute is an outlier. There are far more female prostitutes and non prostitutes who would marry for money. Also, everyone needs money to survive. Money is a medium of power because it gets you what you want. Women go where the power is and want a piece of the power for status, protection and provision. Men desire the money to secure sex. If there is no way to get sex with money (legally) you get what's happening today with increasing sexlessness among younger men. They don't have the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:52 AM
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That and whenever there is an argument about the behavior we see and the reasons why, it helps to break concepts down to the basics. At the basic, most shallow level relationships are transactional in nature. However, even feeling for each other is an emotional transaction. Love can and does exist but a debate sub wouldn't exist if everything was fine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 07:36 AM
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Feminists are not a single crowd. Judging about all of them basing on a few is not correct. They sure took liberty judging all men based on the actions of a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:41 PM
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Sadly, I have but only one upvote to give. If you give your partner the best sex they've had and communicate like adults, it's not impossible to have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:39 AM
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I don’t buy it. If pleasant is the only standard that is sad. It's probably not the only standard but among the more important ones. The same niceness you see among betas is how they want to be treated by women. Is it sad because men don't aim higher and don't need something more complicated than someone actually being nice to them? Or is it sad because even this requirement is just impossible for women to achieve?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 11:27 AM
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You're not completely screwed or undesirable. However, when you're in your 30s, half of your eligible crowd of partners is most likely married. Something about hitting the big 3 0 makes men and women think about marriage. With half the dating population gone, you have mostly 'leftovers' to deal with. I've recently joined Tinder and that appeared to be going quite well - I got around 3,000 likes on my first day on the app. Two things here: Jeezus H Krist. Guys generally do not get that much atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 07:34 AM
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I agree, but I also agree that any men who identify as red pill should be regarded the same. Erm...the MRAs would probably be the ideological opposition to feminists. RPers are just trying to get laid. Unless, of course, you view feminists as women who are angry they're not fucking hotter guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 07:20 PM
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A boy at a primary school (I think first or second grade iirc) in South Africa got into trouble for telling a girl 'I'm sexy and I know it'. He was quoting that LMFAO song. That would hardly have registered as a problem back in the day. When we got to high school (late 90s), the seniors organised a show for the grade 8 students which involved a very suggestive dance from a senior girl who 'stripped' out of her school uniform. She was wearing another one underneath. It's a different social climat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 12:07 PM
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I read a portion of a textbook once about how a teacher's perception and bias affects students' learning. This usually applies to how white teachers may trear black kids badly because they come from a poor home or may have behavioral issues due to problems at home. But often teachers would then assume the worst and already have a negative bias against the kid even when they've done nothing troublesome. In one instance a boy was hugging a girl. He was black and smitten with a white girl. He'd fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 11:59 AM
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I'm not American, but one of the first things I noticed while working with them is they love to shit on their president. That and the young white American feminists (they were very open about it) were very quick to call an older male staff member creepy before they'd even gotten to know him. After they interacted a bit they stopped saying shit like that but just existing as an unattractive, older man is enough for rumours to start. One of said feminists also had a thing for tall, white, hulking …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 11:53 AM
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Noticed the sexlessness going on? That's all men can do. They aren't getting enough offers to be able to be choosy. They cannot have standards when no one is applying. I don't think women understand how barren the landscape really is. A simple fake account or two on Tinder will show them the huge difference in experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 09:41 AM
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Or just stay inside. That or marry someone black. Cos black don't crack!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 09:03 AM
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Do they think this will happen while continuously attacking women and degrading marriage and the family unit? RP does not equal all men. But men are avoiding marriage because it is a shit show for them. He can have an abusive wife, be stuck in a loveless, sexless marriage for years and then be taken to the cleaners because she can allege he fondled the kids too much. This doesn't happen in all cases, but every man knows someone whose current or ex wife fucked him up. Considering that dometic vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:58 AM
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This entire line of thinking always gets a visceral reaction from me since the entire it often seems to imply that a woman's body is a natural resource like water or oil or something. And that women should distribute it "for the greater good." There are some assumptions here that are problematic. Firstly, men's bodies were always used as a natural resource for war and heavy lifting. Even today a guy needs to prove himself useful (men are human doings, women are human beings). Secondly, women cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 08:34 AM
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This is a very different argument. I wasn't talking about empathy but about responsibility. If one person litters, it's not a big deal. If everyone does it, it causes a huge mess. But one person cannot be held accountable for it all. Instead, we have rules and even fines to keep things from getting too messy. Do manospherians care about rape victims who deal with the trauma for years after the attack? No. They call them liars and opportunists for wanting justice. Different argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 04:41 AM
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Has no one here ever ruined the roof of their mouth on Lucky Charms??? For me it was these sour candies I got at the airport once. It hurt. But it hurt so good ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 04:32 AM
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Marriage is often seen as security for women. Many of their arguments for it come down to 'I need to make sure he can't just up and leave me.' That's when the passion starts to die and you need to work to keep it alive. Dread is important in keeping her interested so she feels like her partner is still superior to her because he could potentially walk out and find someone else. In other words, "he's hot enough to have options but he mustn't cheat on me".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 07:48 PM
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Feeling like I’m about to lose them to competitors has also sometimes worked. Women love and hate that the men they desire are desirable by other women. They want a man who is hot enough to cheat but won't cheat on them. This woman's poor justification and rationalisation is what happens when you let your hormones dictate your relationships. Women will deny that dread is important but being able to walk out at any moment really turns them on because of the power dynamic. Look at how women descri…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/05/19 06:21 AM
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It's difficult because you cannot point a finger in any single person's direction and say 'you're creating the issue here'. But there's clearly a trend of sexlessness among men, which women couldn't care about despite insisting men care about their issues. Without taking extremes into account, the best thing men can do is hope that women are much nicer about sexual distribution and that women have enough empathy to understand men's desire for sexual intimacy. Individually, she may of course have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 05:53 AM
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Without a proper support system, such as family or a good community, parenting can significantly lower your happiness. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/08/11/the-most-depressing-statistic-imaginable-about-being-a-new-parent/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c8afc8de2417 Single moms and people who support their choices erroneously conflate going through a difficult time with a heroic act. It's like shooting yourself in the foot then expecting the red carpet to be rolled out when …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:37 PM
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Once again, she could easily have left the child and make her life way easier. No. She could have avoided pregnancy with the many, many birth control options. That's excluding abstinence, insisting on condom use and an abortion. There's nothing noble about choosing to be a single mom when all it takes is the willingness to open your legs and fuck without protection. There are many foster kids out there who would be happy to have at least one parent. Nothing stopping her or anyone from adopting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:32 PM
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Single moms could have left the child for adoption. But they didn't do it despite the fact raising a child alone is difficult. It already speaks volumes. That she wasn't smart enough to avoid something that would make her life and her child's life incredibly difficult? She's not a hero for choosing a shitty life for her and her child. No woman is forced to be a single mom. If she's pregnant, barring extremes, she chose that life. She also made the choice for at least two other people who have li…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 10:57 AM
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The least generous interpretation you can give, eh? marriage is not a scorecard” - ok? Yes it isn’t, so maybe cut it out with all the “but what does she bring to the table” rhetoric. The second you argue about any investment in a relationship, it's going to end up in an argument about who adds the most value and therefore who deserves more or better. This is going to lead to 'what do you bring to the table?'. I didn't say women bring nothing, but when someone asks what do you bring, and the answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 06:49 AM
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My point was there is a cost to not knowing what your role in a relationship is and, to make things easier, you should communicate expectations with your partner beforehand. There's nothing wrong with give and take but you have to know what you're giving and taking to reduce resentment and covert contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:24 AM
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I’m not my sisters keeper either. Yet you’d cut off your own nuts before you’d ever think of abandoning AWALT. Awalt's got your panties in a twist, eh? That's quite the illogical leap there. How does someone having a nature mean someone else is responsible for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 04:20 AM
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Why are you not more upset with men who give *reason* for this to be normal behaviour from men? I am not my brother's keeper. Why should I be expected to be held accountable for others being assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 09:08 PM
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Yes but you cannot run a marriage on a score system. Otherwise a guy would be perfectly justified in handing his wife over to criminals when they break in because she hasn't been giving him enough sex. Reciprocation is one thing, but when you believe you're doing more because you perceive you're doing more (and being piss poor at communicating your needs), then you're going to sabotage your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:46 AM
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A lack of purpose creates the kind of confusion you're seeing. What point is there in a wife if she's not willing to do more than just be there? The irony here is that women practically beg men to be more emotional and open up, but now that they actually have to deal with men in a vulnerable state it's 'emotional labour'. Emotional labour is actually what people in the service industry claim is what happens when they have to behave in a pleasant manner at all times because they have to be nice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:42 AM
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but does not appreciate or reciprocate. In the way she wants. This is why RP tells men straight up that women cannot love them in the way they want to be loved. Maybe someone should tell women that how men express their love is different? How much of her belief that he's not appreciating her is basically a covert contract that's been unfulfilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 08:29 AM
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All they'd have to do is cuddle, pay attention, and then at least they'd be on the same level as the dog. Note here, gentlemen. If you're as subservient as a dog, all your marriage problems will vanish. All you have to do is learn how to obey your master and you'll be okay! It's never the master's fault their pets are so poorly behaved anyway, so you better get better at listening or else you're in the doghouse. I mean, if 40% of women said it, it must be true and not the result of an overestima…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 09:55 PM
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I would be a little saddened to hear that I’m worthy of seeing these men at their worst and helping building up their confidence, but they’re grossed out at the thought of making me their SO. It's not like women are generous when it comes to sex anyway, but for all your sadness you're also missing the fact that no woman wants to know her husband used to visit whores back in the day. No matter how benevolent she was. Additionally, she's offering a service. She's not applying for LTR status. You'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:33 PM
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they have no vested interest to lie to you. It may cost her a future appointment so she may lose cash if she doesn't say the right thing. From her perspective, she has no idea if he just wants his ego stroked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:22 PM
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more likely to pay someone who does their job because they enjoy it instead of someone who does their job because they have no other alternative. Screw that! Let them be miserable at work like the rest of us!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 02:19 PM
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Consent isn't a contract that gets laid out in advance and that's that and everybody is bound to those terms. This isn't helpful at all. You negotiate consent with people daily in your interactions, whether you're aware or not. But the ambiguity you're allowing into a situation preceding a rape makes it that much harder to conclude rape happened at all. You've admitted it's not easy to prove consent, but that doesn't mean someone should go to jail because it's difficult to prove. So should we ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 09:57 PM
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But when they asked to discuss the smaller details it's clear that they hold fault as well. It's not until they take a closer look that they realise something's wrong. These men don't realise what's going on. They've had bad advice their whole lives, they're generally unaware of what women desire and many of them are with women who do not communicate their needs clearly. Some of the advice includes things like 'be yourself' and 'work hard and you'll be rewarded'. It's not bad advice, but not goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 05:35 AM
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They tend to put out easier than other women. And since he tends not to get much sex or affection elsewhere, it's easy for him to get hooked. Women can get sex and affection far easier but they have a thing for bad boys because it's exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 04:11 AM
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Yeah, you don't understand parental love at all. It's conditional not based on what the child does, but who the child is. It's still conditional, which is OP's point. Parental love isn't universal. Parents have killed their own children for being homosexual, or even belonging to rival gangs (I heard of this one from a former gang member). A parent being willing to sacrifice themselves for their children's wellbeing is love, but not every parent is that altruistic no matter how much they believe …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 07:49 AM
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This sounds quite similar to RP's concept of 'frame' where you're fitting into the frame of the men around you. Do you find yourself taking the lead or following in those scenarios with both alphas and betas?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:59 AM
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Male birth control would solve this very quickly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/05/19 08:15 AM
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I mean, the results are still the same, regardless of who started it. Please tell the women who show zero sympathy to men who are victims of men and women, because for some reason it's 'men's problem' if men suffer regardless. But women suffering at the hands of men is worse (and men suffering from women is not even considered a problem).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 06:13 PM
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And yet, these same men get agitated when women are too busy raising children to “pick up their slack” Pick up whose slack? The women's or the men's? and need a lot of resources from others in order to raise children, who are very expensive and time consuming. Where do you think the money comes from to raise the kids? When you say 'others', do you mean big daddy government or do you mean from fathers? In either case, have a look at that point of yours about them being very expensive and time con…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 05:55 PM
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I mean, what do you think will happen if you put people who have little sex but really desire it, inside of a body with easy access to it? This is like putting women inside of a man's body then calling it ironic when she heads off to find a job or open the pickle jar. The issue you're seeing is that of an imbalance of power. Men have never said they don't want sex and many men are promiscuous. They said they aren't necessarily after sluts for relationships. Even gay men, who tend to have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:07 AM
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They benefit too much in the deal to bother ending it. So to avoid any feelings of guilt, they'll claim he wasn't truly nice when he inevitably tries to move out of the friendzone. But this is like a guy claiming a woman he fuckzoned was never truly into the sex and lied about wanting it just to trap him in a relationship. She'll convince herself they were just friends as long as she continues to receive attention, freebies and validation. Women are simultaneously masters of picking up on subtle…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 06:49 PM
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As compared to men, who just have sex with anything that moves. To be fair, obese women are having more sex than obese men. Men have far fewer requirements for sex than women. He doesn't have to like her to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 05:01 PM
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On a final note, I think both men and women on either side should stop being crybabies and focus on self-betterment. It's a bit late to be telling people this in their 20s when they spent the bulk of their lives being lied to. Then they discover there are only a few years left to 'git gud' before the marriage window practically shuts. I think this shock combined with the sexist lies designed to protect everyone causes emotional turmoil, which comes out as anger. They should know this stuff well …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 01:22 PM
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There are men's rights movements, including politicians in the UK and even Australia trying to change things. Thing is, feminism got supported by capitalists because it improved the labour supply. It was profitable to their cause to support women. Supporting men will have to be profitable first before anything changes. That is, a bunch of women would have to go off and die in a war before men would get a second look. Let's also not forget that men gave women everything. Women did not have to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:10 PM
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This is it. You're not going to find a woman who appreciates your ability to provide when you're young. So an unattractive guy gets told his time will come, he should just keep plugging away at that stability and hard work. He gets a degree, makes some money, then when he's established, he has the 'privilege' of getting the attention from 30 year old single moms who didn't even give him the time of day when they were 18-25 and had no kids. OP is half right. Yes, wanting a young, pretty woman is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 11:57 AM
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Women got sexual shaming while men didn't. Men weren't exactly having a party hunting, fighting, protecting, dying, all for the sake of the future of the tribe. You're also missing the reasons for shaming certain types of behavior. People talk as if shaming someone's sexuality is one step short of enslaving them. If you're in an environment where an extra mouth to feed is taking resources away from someone else, keeping an eye on slutty women is going to make sense. But sexual instincts and desi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 05:35 PM
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They don't get it. Your partner isn't someone you go shopping for dresses with, or play the latest Fifa with. It's nice if they are into the same stuff as you, but friendship is an awful way to describe what they mean to you. Friends also come and go. When you day goodbye you don't have to deal with their shit nor can they be your primary source of long term intimacy and commitment. They want to believe so badly that you can marry your best friend, but they're ignoring how that turned out for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:39 PM
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Consent isn’t really a big issue for married couples though. In a healthy relationship, consent isn't a problem. But marital rape is a thing though. Even when they're married, men aren't going to think it's open season even if she says no. They've been conditioned to believe women don't want it by default and thus he has to convince her, get consent and then he gets to have sex. In reality there's a lot more playfulness. It's not as cut and dry. One moment you're both exhausted, the next you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 11:18 AM
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Not quite. What you need to do is make citizens pay a fine if they have kids out of wedlock or have more than x number of children. Then make sure there are plenty abortion clinics and lots of birth control options available. This is more population control, but it gets the same job done.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:01 PM
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Have you tried raising kids for 18 years in a single parent household? You're talking like this is mandatory for all women to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 02:46 PM
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You could do free weights and do squats with them but you're limited to what your hands and arms can hold :/ But yes, they shouldn't be blocking people from accessing equipment for an hour. That's selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:22 AM
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It's just as rude to monopolise the squat racks for an hour. Some gyms have signs up to say you're not allowed to use equipment like treadmills for more than 30 minutes. Taking an hour on a squat rack is just shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:18 AM
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What does he do when they're married and it's a fantasy of hers she wants fulfilled?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:16 AM
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If she straight up tells you no, like OP’s wife, it’s a good time to take pause and not “just do it”. I agree with you. But what does a husband do when they discover that she has a rape fantasy that she will not discuss? He wants to please her and give her what she wants. If he stops at 'no', which is the right thing to do, he fucks up by not fulfilling a desire she has. This was not a fantasy that would stay one. She actually wanted to be ahem 'molested in her anus' by her husband. So he has to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 10:14 AM
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An increasing percentage of men simply hate sex. I wouldn't say they hate sex itself, but the things they have to do to get it. After a while, porn and jerking off seems far easier, quicker and less of a hassle than spending money on clothes, transport and a date. Then you have to walk that tight line of not seeming too eager, while trying to impress her and being just the right amount of sexual she likes - without knowing a damn thing about her because you just met. It's like getting the privil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:19 AM
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A doctor doesn't operate in a vacuum. They are probably best suited to tell you what's really happening, such as when they mention how to avoid heart disease. Just because the average Joe and Josephine are not doctors doesn't mean they aren't interacting with sick people either. The doctors just happen to have better insight into how sick we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:32 AM
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That's the literal definition of sour grapes. She can't have what she wants so she's convincing herself that what she has is better. But her words drip with envy. Where were these realisations before her divorce? Women talk as if a switch suddenly flipped from them being attractive to being unattractive. They still believe they're that cute, funny, doe-eyed 18 year olds who deserve only the best men. But she's much older, allegedly wiser, but cannot figure out what went wrong. Take note how ofte…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/04/19 08:32 AM
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Thank you You've literally just said thank you to someone who is advocating for children to be lied to by their parents, and for their sex education to come from outside the home. This is how the red pill was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:34 PM
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What honesty would you like that these men are unable to figure out on their own? You missed the part where men are deliberately sent down the wrong path. 'Just be yourself. Girls like nice, respectful men. It's ok to be friends first' are not exactly lies of omission. They should straight up tell men that women prefer tall, physically fit, dominant and succesful men. That being attractive helps you attract people? Thanks Captain Obvious. But the issue is how adults define attractive to young me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 01:31 PM
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That's the worst part. You don't want to be an asshole. But you also don't want to be involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:54 AM
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And it's getting worse because more boys are being raised by single moms than ever before. Women do not understand what it's like to be a boy, so they project their insecurities about the shitty men they've dated onto boys. I wonder how many women would pause before spouting shit like "you're just like your damn father" if they knew what the impact of it would be. They want their boys to grow up to respect women, treat them nicely and to be as emotionally available as possible. This would be lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:52 AM
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only SOME men have that problem This isn't an argument and doesn't disprove the trend of increasing sexlessness among men. The US has a record high number of single people between the ages of 18 and 30. About half people that age are single. It's not just 'some' anymore. (probably the ones who didnt understand how "the game" works) The 'game' isn't fun when you don't understand the rules or keep losing. The game is rigged in women's favour and women get to change the rules as they go along. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:43 AM
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TIL You can't be fun and sensitive at the same time. Being risk averse means you're less likely to do things like take drugs, be an underage drinker or sneak out to parties. You know, 'fun' things that get women excited. Plus if he's short and overweight, it's going to be that much harder to get anyone's interest so invitations to the fun will be basically non existent. TIAL there's "bullshit" about women wanting "not overly sexual men." Now you're just being willfully ignorant. What do you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:36 AM
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TIL You can't be fun and sensitive at the same time. Being risk averse means you're less likely to do things like take drugs, be an underage drinker or sneak out to parties. You know, 'fun' things that get women excited. Plus if he's short and overweight, it's going to be that much harder to get anyone's interest so invitations to the fun will be basically non existent. TIAL there's "bullshit" about women wanting "not overly sexual men." Now you're just being willfully ignorant. What do you thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:36 AM
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There's something else that I've seen others mention as well that needs more discussion. She's not sad she destroyed her partner's hopes and dreams. She's not sad she destroyed her marriage. She's sad because the divorce inconvenienced her. She ran from her guilt because in her mind feeling guilt is wrong. Therefore, she projected all those feelings she didn't like onto him. She thought that by getting rid of him, the guilt would disappear. And that's the key. She doesn't want to feel guilty. Sh…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 08:17 AM
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Men are so obsessed with anal now, why would it matter And they say men are the ones led astray by porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:59 AM
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Not sure why so many guys here think this isn't enough? Because there are legal implications if he misreads her intentions. It's not like women are explicit about what they want. Seduction is like trying to look good while balancing a giant jello cake. Your aim is to lead said cake into a bedroom on the far end of a room full of obstacles, traps, distractions and all manner of cock blocks both self made and from an outside source. How far she's willing to go with you depends on how well you bala…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 06:56 AM
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If it isn't high enough, you can lie or go sleep with a few more men. To be honest, the fact that you believe you haven't a high enough N count to scare away the: neurotic n count crowd This, ironically, makes you come across as neurotic and far more sex negative as you are actually shaming people for their sexual choices. You don't have to hang around conservative people and you're going to meet people who have different values to you. If you're not emotionally mature enough to handle that, may…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 05:22 AM
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How to repel them? Tell them your N count
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:56 AM
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Wait, what? But she said she loved the pearl necklace! How am I going to get all those pearls to fit on her ears?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:29 AM
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The fact that his marriage is failing isn’t his fault, the running theme in the manosphere If only more people spoke to women like this. The university of Texas even did a study on failed relationships and found that women blamed men for the failure regardless of who was to blame. Men accepted the blame regardless, too. What you're seeing on the manosphere is a bunch of men who were hurt in their relationships. A lot of them do indeed take the blame and even head off to TRP to fix the issues the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:20 AM
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And don’t tell me the “society” boogeyman pressures men to marry. So what? Grow a pair and live your life the way you want. I agree wholeheartedly. It's the same bullshit excuse as the 'patriarchy' stopping women from going into STEM. Social pressure exists but no one is compelled to behave the way society wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 06:01 AM
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I think OP is missing the fact that women are not perfect. While we shouldn't make excuses for poor behaviour and they should experience the effects of poor choices, there's no way someone who is attractive enough is going to stay chaste in a room full of hot people, alcohol, drugs and potential sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 06:54 AM
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What is wrong with a girl sowing her wild oats? Why must you call it "a cock carousel"? You're coming from an egalitarian perspective here without considering power dynamics and male and female biological objectives. Let's start with something simple: if promiscuity is not a problem, why are women ashamed of how many men they've slept with? Now, you can claim it's because society considers promiscuity a problem. But if she truly stands for something so important as her sexual liberation and righ…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/19 11:14 AM
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Never understood that mentality. Reddit user shares opinion Someone disagrees pikachu face Extra points for ad hominem attacks and insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 09:34 AM
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Eh, I don't think men give it to women either. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Women have white knights and team woman to defend them and provide attention and sympathy. There is no army of women defending men's hurt feels, especially not online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 09:28 AM
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OR it's because STR and LTR function differentely. Don't expect a LTR to work like a STR. If you want fast sex go casual sex. Yes. This is exactly the problem. Why should a man treat a casual encounter as LTR material? Thus sluts are not ideal for LTRs. If that same woman made a guy wait for sex, he'd be pissed off knowing she offered sex for free for years but made him pay commitment for it. Casual sex is how the problem started. Look at what happens in STRs vs LTRs. STRs are described as fun, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:43 AM
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men will actively delay sex with relationship prospects too, whether he "wants" to sleep with her or not Pointing out exceptions doesn't buck the trend. How many men delay sex vs those who don't? And if they do, I doubt it's for years as they save themselves for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:26 AM
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So in the first situation, how fast a woman has sex is indicative of her as a whole person Yes, very often women who are DTF quickly can be poor LTR material because slutty girls tend to be more promiscuous. and in the second, it is indicative of how attracted she is to the person in question. So sluts are not attracted to the people they are sleeping with? I don't see a contradiction here. Perhaps it could be that women know that men believe “very often the women who give out sex easily are poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:25 AM
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Women want a man who is "relationship material" (which varies per woman) but who also is attractive and they want to have sex with. Yes. They offer Chad sex hoping he'll settle for them but he doesn't. However, they hop from Chad to Chad hoping one will stick. It doesn't work so she has to settle for a partner who isn't as attractive. Women rationalise it as making him wait because she likes him, which raises some questions. Why does she prefer to fuck some guys quickly while making others wait?…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 07:13 AM
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Idiocracy is inching from fiction to non fiction every day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 05:15 AM
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Almost similar to why women will sleep with some people quickly but not others. Nope. Regardless of whether she's a short term lay or LTR material, in both instances he's attracted enough to want to sleep with her. He will ignore her poor LTR attributes for sex because very often the women who give sex out easily are poor LTR material. They also tend to present themselves as DTF so why should he waste time evaluating her home making abilities or if she wants kids when he can get laid tonight? Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 06:58 AM
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Also what is a bloop. I don't think anyone else answered. Bloop is shorthand for Blue Piller: a member of the blue pill side, who enjoy divorce raping and baby killing. Part time. They spend the bulk of their time ridiculing some angry, unattractive, anonymous internet men trying to lift themselves out of a life of celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 09:43 PM
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Hookers are not the oldest profession. Only idiots keep repeating that. You mean like idiots who don't get hyperbole? Nope. She wants a man with a job, because if she has kids, she can hardly work while she's in hospital having the babies and then caring for said babies. Few men will ever have the care of babies preventing them from working. Nothing's stopping her from having her own job, getting maternity leave or being a single mom. And I wasn't talking about this. I was talking about how men …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 02:23 PM
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But Michelle's primary concern is that WOMEN ARE UNHAPPY, and I quote, "there is a lot of evidence current sex culture is making women unhappy." Once again, men's issues only get considered when it affects women negatively. Female privilege strikes again. If men are hurting and women are not affected...well, too bad men. Figure this out yourself despite having all the shit dumped on you without any help, and only in a feminist-approved way thay will probably do more harm than good. And it's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 10:14 AM
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So these median, run of the mill men are in my estimation, giving up. Not that they've found an alternative. Porn is basically just what they're leaning on. Many of them are probably still on Tinder or dating websites just that they aren't giving it 110% to eek out another date. This is it. We have blamed media and video games for everything that's wrong with society. Violent video games turn kids into killers...or rather, we want to believe it instead of looking at socio economic conditions, me…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 06:49 AM
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Heck I see Chads with women I wouldn't date just because to them it's easy pussy and all they care about is getting their dicks wet. A woman can be obese and still be paid for sex. They have bbw porn. There is no bbm porn. Men are far more attracted to women than the other way round. This doesn't work in a man's favour as women in general aren't that kind that they'd consider self improvement for men's benefit. But there's no shortage of suggestions about how best men can serve women. Especially…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:29 AM
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It's almost like you need money to have sex! There's a reason why they call it the oldest profession. Women generally make you pay a price for sex. There is no difference between her wanting you to have a job (along with other requirements) and paying a prostitute for access to sex. The irony here is that women raised their expectations when they studied and got jobs. Contraceptives and jobs were supposed to lead to more sex for everyone. Sexual revolution sounds like it would lead to more sex f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:20 AM
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Matriarchal societies are usually peaceful and don't engage in war at all. (whether that is dangerous if they're under attack is another issue) How can you make this claim when you admitted to anthropologists saying that matriarchies never existed? You're also trying to prove men have it easier in a matriarchy when none exist. This is speculating on speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 10:05 PM
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PPD starting with the April Fool's posts early...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:54 PM
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I heard a theory once that rape hysteria is women's projection of their deepest insecurity being something desirable. It's both scary and exciting at the same time to be taken and ravished. That it's a rape fantasy much like some of the more extreme homophobes could be gay men overcompensating for their deepest fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 10:30 PM
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Women here including me say this all the time (at least the part about men being emotional, loving, falling in love quicker etc). What we get in response is “stop feminizing is, stop trying to make us into women,” “you only feel this for Chad,” etc. Having emotions and falling in love are not feminine things. This is not what men are talking about when they complain about anyone feminizing them. They're talking about being treated as defective girls, such as insisting they deal with problems in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:54 PM
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OP, there are far more singles in the US today than ever before: https://observer.com/2018/01/more-americans-are-single-than-ever-before-and-theyre-healthier-too/ Among today’s growing single population, 63 percent have never been married, 23 percent are divorced, and 13 percent are widowed. Of that staggering single population, the majority of which are living independently of their own accord, 53 percent of singles are women. These are people over 18 years old. Compare that to previous or olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 08:10 AM
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Then they wouldn't put out on the first night. That's how they got into this problem in the first place Women fuck younger guys for looks and BB men in their 30s The fact that women cannot see this as counter productive to their aims of getting into an LTR is staggering. No man wants to LTR a woman like this. She can fuck whoever she wants but if she's single in her 30s and is still attractive enough to get laid by younger men, then she's messed up pretty badly. Why would any man who meets her L…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:54 AM
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are you claiming that men don't leave their wives for younger and hotter options? Very few do. What you're probably seeing is a divorce (which she probably initiated) followed by the two of them looking for other partners. She doesn't get remarried but he does, usually to a younger woman. Don't men ONLY value a woman's looks? Strawman. Men value looks most, especially for sex or STRs. Looks are still priority for LTRs but men don't mind compromising a bit if she makes up for it by not being a bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/19 07:30 AM
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I want you to google the irreparable physical results of pregnancy for women. It's almost as if women have a choice in the matter here. I mean, if pregnancy is so bad, just don't get pregnant. And yet so many women want babies so badly, they'd gladly become pregnant without their partner's consent on being a parent. Women want babies so badly, they'd gladly ensure a man is in financial servitude for 18 years at the risk of jail if he doesn't pay up. If screwing over another human being isn't goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 09:32 AM
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And what exactly would my empathy fix in these betas lives? Well, first you'd need to not try to justify your lack of empathy as 'how would it help if I cared?' If men took the same stance, women wouldn't be enjoying the rights and privileges they do in the west. That doesn't happen without men supporting women and caring about their needs and desires. As a result, women now have even more rights than men! A little empathy helped women a lot. So if you cared enough, you could talk to some men's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 03:28 PM
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religion bores me to tears. I wasn't suggesting you go read every religious text, just saying this shit is pretty old. bitter betas have porn and video games You don't have to have any empathy. But those betas keep society running. If they dedicate themselves to porn and video games, they aren't building bridges or discovering new medicine, or improving our energy grids. I'm not saying they're all wonderful people, but if their motivation to contribute to society vanishes, it would fall on every…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:13 AM
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They can't. They're not in the position of choosing. They have to use a scattergun approach to dating and take what they can get. And even then women insist men should continue to lower their standards. Mostly so Chad lowers his to her level...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 08:58 AM
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You can also look at religion if you want to go back further. Religion controlled sexuality for far longer and didn't exactly have great things to say about women's sexuality in particular. Even the ancient Greek philosophers held the view that women were not equal to men. I suspect many of the religions were so sexually conservative because our ancestors knew what happened when we 'liberated' ourselves sexually. It turned to chaos, hence the one man and one woman emphasis in Christianity. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 07:20 AM
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So if you saw an old man being mugged in a parking lot you would just walk away? I think the point here is that if a woman wouldn't risk her life for the old man, asking men to do it is asking them to give more than what's expected of women. This is not fair to anyone who believes in equality. Chivalry is dead because men cannot continue to support outdated social norms that are harmful to them for the benefit of others. If you want men to be that invested, you have to offer them a different soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:31 AM
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Yeah but women can improve in other areas. Exercise, make up, a more positive attitude, dressing feminine... this can still help her get a better quality partner. A fit, feminine woman in her early 30s is far less screwed than a dude lacking height. Short guy can't make up for lack of height by pretending to be taller or wearing massive platform shoes (equivalent of make up). Women generally want someone who is head and shoulders above them, in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:13 AM
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We had this idea beaten into our heads in school and through media: girls can do anything boys can do OP also forgot the mixed messages that feminism sent where domestic or traditionally feminine duties should get more recognition but even feminists valued more masculine roles. It's why you have some women chasing careers, having short term relationships with Chads then wanting to settle down in their 30s, similar to men. No boy was going to argue that girls can't do what boys can, so any differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:35 AM
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Pure maths, biology, chemistry, medicine, even edge cases like econ certainly don't exist to these guys. Feminists weren't exactly targeting those when they complained about stem and sexism. There are quite a few female biologists, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:25 AM
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Usually when women are " bold, forthcoming, brave, and self determining" some mediocre dude tells them they are either crazy, fucked up, or a bitch. That's because bitchy women often use those terms to describe themselves then blame and shame men for not being 'strong enough' and for not wanting to put up with their shit. Women who are self determining and brave can do so without destroying their femininity in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 12:22 AM
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Own yourself. Protect yourself. There is no shame in any of that. Other people are shaming because that's how they protect themselves. They can't help it. Has nothing to do with you. I agree, but we also cannot pretend that every person has the emotional and mental maturity to stand their ground and never be influenced due to social pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 06:17 AM
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just because they possess a female mind doesn’t mean she has insight into it. True. But it's better than nothing and he has a chance at learning about how women operate from watching how mom interacts with dad...or the guy who is not dad. Even if mom is dumb as a brick, he lives with a potential source of info on female sexuality. It's the thinking about your mom as a sexual creature that is the difficult part :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 12:31 AM
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Why do you think most men don't care that they're leaving a child behind Because the kid is as foreign a concept as a fetus is to a mom about to abort. And there have been a lot of abortions. Like, a lot...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/19 02:44 PM
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I thought rp said men don’t care either way about a woman’s career or success They don't care about it for sexual strategy. But they don't want to get married so it's not a deal breaker if she's hot but lowly paid. RP men who want to marry also take RMV into account and being productive in a relationship is important. So whether she earns a lot or is successful doesn't make a man want to sleep with her more. What's more important is how she takes care of herself and how she treats him. having th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 11:47 PM
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How else do you think your brother became a stud in bed? The whole of PPD is going to need fireproofing after that burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:29 AM
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but distinctly male style and grooming seems tailor made for dads. You're assuming there isn't a growing contingent of single mothers who have to be responsible for boys as well here. They make up a sizable portion of the population. Plus mom has insight into the female mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 10:27 AM
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but I've no time or desire to read a blowhard monologue with a meandering point. I see you're employing the "close my ears and yell really loudly because I have no actual argument" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 12:58 AM
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Women feel the pressure of social status so severely, they'll lie to themselves to maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:24 PM
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Your premise is wrong. The woman in your scenario would have to be known to be the type to string men along and she may even say she likes to string men along. Any man who tries his luck then is an idiot. What actually happens though is she strings him along, denies it when anyone points it out, gets defensive, then claims he was the asshole for not actually being a nice guy (read: willing to give her what she wants without her reciprocating). When he complains about this, he gets told not to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:22 PM
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But you cant want all this and then turn around call the women who do it sluts. I mean you can, but then you can't really complain about your situation either. Being desired by a woman is not the same as having a problem with sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 06:20 PM
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You do realize that testosterone levels change throughout your life, don't you? This doesn't mean she knows what it's like to have 12-20x the testosterone, nor do dips turn men into women. So feminists are right? All men are potential rapists? Everyone is a potential everything. By this logic, all women are potential emotional terrorists and divorce rapists. All poor people are potential drug abusers. All white people are potential racists. All black people are potential criminals. All female te…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 06:16 PM
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Well imagine her pattern thus far has been that sex on the first date has ruined every relationship she's tried to have. This isn't difficult to find out beforehand. After maybe one or two? Or even asking relationship advice from people who are succesful or who have been through it. There's also the internet so women can find out if sex on the first date is a good idea. Usually, though, she's fucking on the first date due to hormones, alcohol or a misguided attempt to get him to stick around. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/19 04:55 AM
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Yeah but they're taking what's left. No man wants to date a bitch. He wants a woman who, at the very least, can be kind enough to meet his RMV threshold. Ideally, she isn't a bitch generally, like a good rule of thumb is how she treats service staff. What then happens is the nice and pretty ones are off the market quickly. Then he has to take what he can get. Usually, there is some degree of assholism he has to put up with or he has to get used to sleeping alone. Women claim to want kind men but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 07:21 AM
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So would you understand why a woman in an LTR might desire less sex over time if a man becomes messier? By this logic, a man is justified in not doing anything unless his wife fucks him regularly. That's the risk you take for making a trade like that. Also, unless she's explicitly told him 'do the dishes for extra blowjob fun', she's making a covert contract, which isn't healthy for the relationship. There's just no good outcome here. If she's claiming part of attraction is a clean living space,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:47 AM
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So why not continue to do that throughout the relationship? You could ask the same of women who offer their husbands dwindling, less enthusiastic maintenance sex compared to the earth shattering loving she offered Chad or at the start of the relationship. You could ask the same of women's weight and niceness at the start. Why don't they maintain them throughout? There is also the issue of messy women, OP. When people are single they can live in their own mess. I once read a mom's account of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:27 AM
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Here you go: https://girlpowermarketing.com/womens-purchasing-power/ At home, the majority of women act as “chief purchasing officer,” influencing or managing 85 percent of all consumer purchases. And that’s not just diapers and detergent. Women buy more cars, insurance and consumer electronics than men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:12 AM
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My mother is very similar to the way he's describing his wife. She revoked our right to do chores because it was never up to her standards. And when we did do chores, she'd be hovering over us, constantly criticizing our technique. She wanted full control to the point where she preferred to do all the work and then bitch about it instead of letting us do it our own way. Krist, I'm getting flashbacks. This is the core of it. When women complain men are too lazy or aren't doing enough, they're dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:09 AM
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I'll keep saying it. If we want RP to vanish, women should start fucking guys because they're nice. Until women do that, they cannot complain when men are rewarded with sex for being shallow assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 02:20 PM
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Manipulative, selfish, only concerned with short term thinking and not long term thinking and planning. Low in RMV. They pursue partners who are low in RMV but who are attractive or fun, but would make terrible partners. Obsessed with good looks and being validated, need sexual validation to compensate for deep seated feelings of being ignored, not good enough, etc. Eschew long term mating strategies in favor of short term mating strategies. You have to remember, a lot of them didn't start out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 02:04 AM
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And part of me thinks this is just a male/female disconnect to some degree. The problem here is that women are trying to get men to care about things that men don't feel as passionately about at the time. Same argument comes up with women and vehicle maintenance, for example. Women also don't bother trying to figure out how to communicate with men in a way that gets the job done. Nagging is a poor way to do it. If he feels disrespected, he's not going to respond favourably. I sometimes wonder wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:40 PM
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It's all they know. However, you've really never heard your mom complaining the grass outside is too long and your dad sighs because he knows his Saturday's fucked? Women anticipate problems. Men deal with them as they come.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:29 PM
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ew @ bald guys A bald guy can lift, grow a beard and take care of himself well enough to still be attractive to women. Bald women, on the other hand, have it way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:20 AM
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Average doesn't mean unattractive. Even average women get hit on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 09:18 AM
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The men of PPD all say they want to be groped, catcalled, objectified, used for sex and propositioned, so I disagree with you the double standard for the PPD dudes is they wish this would all happened to them and they are mad women are not acting like gay men. Why do women interpret men's desire for intimacy as the equivalent of rape. I think this is the core of rape hysteria right here. And no, what OP is claiming is that there is a double standard with how we treat men and women regarding obje…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 02:21 AM
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Problem with dating that woman is that someone's going to recognise her and try to fuck her. This is going to cause strain on the relationship. It's a little different to if she's just pretty and a guy hits on her. If she's showing sexual availability, which is what sex workers do, men who know her work are going to chance their luck. Some may even offer to pay. And knowing that she is willing to do sex-related stuff for money is not going to make me sleep well at all. That's assuming she isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:15 AM
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I think women are projecting their issues a bit here. The fact that men have second, third or fifth kids with the same women is evidence enough that they're okay with women's bodies. What men don't want is her letting herself go and using the pregnancy as an excuse to stay overweight. There are plenty of women who go to the gym and lose the weight or who diet to stay in a shape their men find attractive. Even in meomeowmeoww's examples, the women have an excess skin problem, not an excess fat pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:56 AM
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When? Many more women stick around to care for the child than men do. Women have aborted more children than the deaths of World War 1 and 2 combined. That's a lot of opting out of obligations. Let's also not forget all the babies found in dumpsters and the safe haven laws that give women an out too. When women opt out, they get the 'privilege' of snuffing out life and abandoning their kids with enough justifications and support so they don't have to look as bad as men do for opting out. Men can'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 10:20 AM
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Alpha and beta get defined here almost on a weekly basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:50 PM
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The red pill's arguments don't exist in a void. You can only ignore the context for so long before someone will point out how an opposing viewpoint has handled the same issue (it hasn't). You don't have to address it, because it derails arguments, but there is a trend among various pills and sexual strategies where vagueness becomes an issue. Maybe they're claiming bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 05:49 PM
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As the other posters here specifically atlas have said she lost attraction to me because I turned into a man child and her more akin to mommy than wife. Women want a parent-child relationship, just not where they're the parent. In my current marriage I lead Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:38 AM
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mine's coal-powered Gonna have to write you up for the carbon footprint violation. May I interest you in our renewable range of vaginal power, or as I like to call it, VaPow, utilities? Solar is really in these days, but hydro is what really gets the ladies wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 03:06 AM
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"Just be yourself!" - great if you're Chad, not so great if you're awkward, overweight or even her same height. "Women like nice, respectful men" - usually spouted by older women who conveniently forget the assholes they dated when they were young. Boys are also taught to respect girls a lot more than the other way around. "Sex is not that important to women" - this comes in several forms. Girls placing a high value on their virginity or women claiming that men shouldn't be too sexual around the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 02:56 AM
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Yes but women vet men by testing things like their boundaries. They want to know that the men they're with can protect them. Hence the shit tests. There's no way a guy can get away with having no boundaries. Women don't respect men with no boundaries, otherwise their beta orbiter doormats would be getting laid. As such, a man has to be willing to say no sometimes and that means sometimes having a parent child dynamic. Women are also quick to point out that their men are like children and no one …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 06:14 PM
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So you're saying men shouldn't allow women to have rights? You're going to have to take him to dinner and a show first if you intend putting things, such as words, in his mouth. I'm glad men like you will never reproduce. So you've no other option other than to use shaming language of a sexual nature? He didn't say women shouldn't have rights. He's saying that for the outside world where things get done, men by and large are on women's side. Women get the freedoms they have because men support t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:36 PM
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Referring to women as the oldest children in the house and all the other silly things is trying to kick them into the gutter. Devil's advocate: Do people where you come from usually kick their kids into the gutter? Because children should be loved and cared for. In fact, there are plenty of women who do prefer to be taken care of and expect men to take on a paternal, protective and provider role. Some women quit their jobs to stay at home to be taken care of. Abuse and neglect of kids is pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:04 AM
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majority of the people scammed are 60+. This could also explain why it's more women. Most of the men have died off by then leaving a bunch of lonely women around.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 08:28 AM
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I'm not ashamed of it, I just don't want obnoxious guys giving me a hard time about it. Hey, I want to be able to walk the streets without being harassed by people trying to sell me something. We can't all have our cake and eat it too. If you live in a conservative culture that looks down on women who are promiscuous, you don't get special exemption from criticism just because you feel entitled to it. There are social consequences to the actions you take. If you don't like it, you can just not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 02:40 AM
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No one exists in a vacuum. Past relationships are going to come up eventually, especially if you're moving in the same social circles. why bring it up at all. This is more an evasion tactic rather than actually dealing with the problem. Women have desire X that men find problematic. Men have desire Y that women find problematic. It's more acceptable to shame Y than X. Guys noticed this and want to know why they cannot ask women to appeal to them more when there's more than enough dating advice a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:06 PM
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TRP was never going to be intellectually honest and it isn't a debate sub. It's a sub full of guys who are nursing bruised egos due to rejection and failed relationships. Conceding a point would poke at the one thing they have that's keeping them from throwing in the towel. Then again, there aren't a lot of people who don't dig their heels in when they're losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 02:56 PM
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Chad represents the most desirable men. These can be, but are not limited to, the law abiding but still attractive athletes, musicians, doctors (surgeons) and rich guys in general. All preferably tall and white. Women of all races love the same men they claim are the problem with this world: wealthy white men. Chad can also be your 'outlaw biker' type, such as a drug dealer, gang member, or simply a troubled guy but with easy access to anything that can get you inebriated. Remember, Chad is cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 06:45 AM
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Cool story bro I am honored to know the story hit you this hard that you had to respond with this. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 06:36 AM
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What exactly are they supposed to do? Sit on their hands and be sexless for women's benefit? They're going to figure out what works and keep doing it until things change. Anyone who finds it sexist or mean really has to ask themselves why this works better than an egalitarian and nice approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 05:42 AM
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No, because it messes up the SMP. Women are the biggest critics of other women. They're the ones more likely to call each other sluts and whores. And women get annoyed at slutty women for decreasing the value of sex by making it too easy for men to get. If it was just a sub problem, you wouldn't see women insulting each other in a sexual manner. Cat fights are ugly, but they're honest! These women also are not honest about taking said 1000 dicks. If it was nothing to be ashamed about, why hide i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:54 AM
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Sex is difficult for men to get. Men often have to prove themselves to get any romantic attention from women, from initiation to the date to continuing to maintain her interest. There's a lot of work required for the average man to meet women's standards of attractive: be tall, be funny, dress well, have a job, pass her shit tests, be better than the previous guy, be a leader but also be aware of her needs and wants...the list continues if you really want it to. As such, young men can be fooled …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 03:44 AM
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10% of American men have clinical depression. That doesn't include men with more rare and more serious mental illnesses, nor does it include men with autism. About 20% of adult men have some sort of physical or mental disability. And 25% of American women are taking anti depressants. Some sauce. So what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 10:58 AM
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insisting men want dumb unemployed women. Roasting strawmen is an easy, but fruitless, endeavour when the other side refuses to understand nuance while insisting theirs be accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:26 AM
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Some men here believe that a woman just needs to be not fat and not crazy to get a keep a high quality man No, this is to seem attractive enough to get a good man. A high quality man is a different deal altogether. If women believe that they are entitled to high quality men, that's a different story. Women's laundry lists of requirements often show them seeking above average men. The height requirements alone would put him in elite category. But there are plenty of average men who are willing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 03:23 AM
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A better analogy isn't going to fix your resistance to an opposing view. Drop the agenda and consider the argument on its merit. For example, look at the experience of drugs, which is what the person was saying. Not the drug itself. It's intoxicating, you desire it all the time and you don't feel okay until you can have it. But it's also damaging and can ruin your life if not managed well. Similarly, men who experienced desiring women (nature doing it's thing!) would also get the emotional and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 04:41 AM
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if a guy is treating women like a drug, he needs proper therapy. I don't think you understand how analogies work. You're strawmanning their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 05:06 PM
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Most atheists are not on reddit, then. You'd then have to write off the RPers.and MGTOW here as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 05:05 PM
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Because they probably couldn’t get anything better and so that’s what they resort to If she's hot and nice to him, he won't care about her job. Women care about that so claiming he couldn't get anything better is like another man claiming her man is shit because he sucks at video games. Serious projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:52 PM
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If you want a woman who is willing to be a housewife and stay at home to raise kids, you should be able to be able to support her and your growing family. It's amazing how often they want this AFTER they've spent their youth messing around. There are also a bunch of single moms who suddenly desire this lifestyle, not because they actually desire being home makers, but because they need someone to finance their poor choices. Go ask young women today how many of them want to be stay at home parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:48 PM
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You can disagree all you like, but show me the hard line you can draw to separate attraction and a fetish. "I like her because she's Asian. Her being Asian turns me on. I prefer to only date and sleep with Asian women". How is that different to: "I like him because he is tall. His height turns me on. I prefer to only date and sleep with tall men". There are a bunch of women who prefer white men over every other race. Considering how often white nerds are mocked for liking Asian women and having …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 01:27 PM
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those guys usually have asian fetish. We fetishize our partners one way or another...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 04:16 PM
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If you dabble in the same kind of bullshit people with an adolescent or even childish mind do, you're basically on the same level as the people you despise. This is idealistic, and I'm not against this at all. However, taking the high road and turning the other cheek just doesn't work. Bullies don't stop bullying because you believe you're too good to fight back. You'd have to develop a culture where humans are provided for, trust each other and are taught to care about others on a deep level be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:05 AM
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So 'take the high road' then? Have you met humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:52 AM
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Catch chicks staring at my junk often when I wear them. They swear they don't look, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 02:50 AM
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It's even more immoral to limit someone's freedoms in the name of their own good. It's even more immoral to hold someone else accountable for your actions. It's even more immoral to ignore your own wellbeing and expect others to know how and why you should be treated. This is incredibly selfish. It's even more immoral to consider women incapable of making their own decisions then allowing them to, say, have a job or become a member of government. even if the woman is responsible for her own deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:32 AM
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Assholes don't necessarily equate to abusers. They're just selfish and inconsiderate. Sluts are not abusers. They just happen to open their legs very easily for some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:23 AM
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That's the general public's view. Women have agency when good stuff happens to them but are innocent damsels with zero agency when bad things happen to them. So women should never suffer the consequences of their poor decisions and, once again, men must pick up the slack and be responsible for their wellbeing. The irony here is how often women hate on men for being terrible but still expect those bad people to have their best interests at heart. Maybe the next CMV should be "It's immoral for wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 06:21 AM
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Carrying on the theme of men who resent women for having sex with a man before them or doing something like anal with another man and feeling awful about it later. Women don't lose something they earned through labour every time they have sex. You're missing the point. What you need is a declaration of love, or something that gains her social status. Such as an elaborate proposal, flowers sent to her office, or a limo picking her up for a weekend away. Yes they require money, but it's the valida…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:38 PM
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The issue is the lack of incentives. If guys weren't willing, there'd be no orbiters. There's 'I'm going to be a good person, work hard and be great husband material,' hard. Then there's 'I'm going to work hard while women gain validation and attention from potentially hundreds of men thanks to social media and online dating, then only be good enough after she cannot get her first choice...' hard. You are right they should put in some effort and I wish more incels would at least try diet and exe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:18 PM
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For your buckets with no bottoms analogy, I would say that this is still a judgement call on your or women's part. Women are quick to tell men to lower their standards. So if she's too poor to afford the fancier buckets, her claims that she deserves a bucket with a bottom (which fall upon sympathetic ears from other poor bucket buyers) are pretty much entitlement. It's also when she's tossed thousands to rent the fancy bucket but expects a useful, but not as fancy, bucket to work for her, on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 05:49 PM
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How did you get over it and forgive them for labeling you as ugly/boring/loser? I owned up to it. I had a very frank conversation with someone who told me straight up that if you're boring, what woman would be interested. So I had to change my attitude and improve myself. Do you regret not dating in college like the vast majority of people? Somewhat. But it would have hurt more if my 20s went by without any luck. Thankfully it got better. How did you even find out what girl you want, with zero p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:52 AM
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You were talking about their duty now, right? They don't want kids now. They don't care for having kids. I know you're trying to say that if we don't repopulate, that there will be x consequences. But how do you hold someone responsible for choosing not to have kids? It's impractical. You're making an ideological argument about something pragmatic. Someone who doesn't want kids could just as easily rely on Catholics and the Amish to fill the gaps for them. The flip side of your argument would me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:04 PM
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That's an age issue. 18 year old virgin? Plausible. 25 year old virgin? Or 30 year old virgin? Something's wrong. Young women are fucking who is in their social circle. They also get into relationships too where a lot of sex happens. But she's not going to be looking forward to popping his cherry at 35. Furthermore, men tend to lose their virginity later than women. It's possible, just harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:54 PM
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you do understand the difference between how drunk two people are right? And you do know that it's ridiculous to expert the person whose less drunk, but still inebriated, to have the presence of mind to determine whether someone else is sober or drunk enough for anything, right? Do you want the bars to hand out "not too drunk to fuck" breathalyzer tests?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 08:49 AM
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Not sure what women think about guy virgins They're virgins for a reason. Women don't like them and, due to the way women's attraction works, they'll only desire him when he's desired by other women. So they don't hold virgins in high regard. but guys aren't making an effort to reclaim the term They aren't doing so because no one wants a virgin. Sluts are still desired by someone and they very often do get into relationships. Some do settle down, though whether their LTRs are succesful is a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:08 AM
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The very long run is irrelevant, we are talking about their duty in the reality they occupy now. This pretty much kills your argument as there is no immediate benefit to having kids now beyond fulfilling a desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 02:19 AM
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You're confusing civic duty with civic responsibility. You should pay your taxes whether you choose to have kids or not. You are not compelled to have children nor is an individual responsible for the failure of the race. To add to this, the last few hundred years have seen more men procreating than before. In other words, we got by with fewer people in general having kids but having a lot more of them at one time. A lot of moms died giving birth and infant mortality was high. We live at a time …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 04:26 PM
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Women can overlook if their BF casually sleeps with someone else Overlook is a strong word here. They'll tolerate Chad slipping his dick down some girl's throat but only because life without Chad would be worse. I'm being liberal with 'tolerate' too because women have made a point of making a man's life miserable for cheating. But she isn't likely to leave if her other options are worse or she would suffer a major decrease in her lifestyle and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:55 PM
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Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way that them choosing not to have kids means your kids pay more. Kids take 18 years before they can probably start contributing to tax. Some have a few more years before they can do so if they go to college or university. In that time an adult has paid a quite a bit in tax. Not all kids end up working. Some are lazy bums, others choose a useless degree and cannot find a job. Some even become criminals and end up taking out of the system more than putting in. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:48 PM
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See, they're reacting to what the market is dictating. In other words, what women actually want. These guys were fully willing to commit before. They thought the (now) old rules still applied when they were growing up. Work hard, get a job, be a good guy and you'll be worthy of a good woman. So they fall in love with their friends and are disappointed when what they were told works just leads them to the friendzone. Some are divorced guys who had no idea why their marriages fell apart. So when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 10:43 AM
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Yes, that's why they said it's a nebulous term. It's contextual. In a room full of overweight, unattractive women, an average man may be Chad. That same guy would get no luck in a room full of far more attractive women. An obese redneck with 4 kids from 3 different guys? She'll be DTF and might even cook you breakfast afterwards. Yes, and that's what happens. Even she's getting laid more than Mr Average McBeta. Someone's fucking her and there's a good chance she started out a bit lighter, fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:29 AM
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Or try to discipline them. "You're not my father!" If you're lucky, mom will support you. But usually all she wants is a quiet wallet while she has primary control over what happens with the kids. So you get to pay, but you get no say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:20 AM
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You see it in online dating when she asks 'how tall are you?' - height is difficult to change. But dare he ask how much she weighs, even if she can lose the weight far easier than he can gain a few extra inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:16 AM
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Yep. I got downvoted for suggesting the problem with women's sports is not men. Men watch female sports, such as tennis and athletics. It's women who need to support it as they're watching the men primarily. Female sport expects support from male sports fans and media when they should be doing this on their own. The implication for men is that they're sexist if they don't support women's sport. But if you're not a fan, no one can force you to support anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 05:02 AM
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How is letting women use you and cheat the system a virtue? So many factors at play here. First, boys are taught that girls are nice, sweet, innocent things that need protection and care. Men have a tendency to care for women, even going so far as to sacrifice themselves to protect women. Women are very human, despite what men think due to the mix of hormones and social programming putting pussy on the pedestal. Sex with women is seen as a prize that men must earn through chivalrous acts. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:03 AM
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One of the most important false beliefs I assert that modern goys have is that the "status" you gain when teacher-mommy gives you a gold star is the very same status that women adore in men. OP, the nerds know they aren't getting laid because they're not Chad the rugby player. They know women don't appreciate them for getting straight A's. It's a common trope that these guys are at the bottom of the social and sexual rung. It's when women and girls lie to them about what they want that gets thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 03:24 PM
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I’m basing my assumptions on conversations with my boyfriend. A male. So you believe him when he says this but not other men when they say anything different. I, too, am a male. We take cocaine/ecstasy/mushrooms together and bash these conversations out. The truth comes out when you're under the influence, eh? I wonder how not being sober could affect your judgement. I mean, I would love to score free hamburgers but admitting it when I'm high isn't exactly a revelation. It's probably my high sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:41 AM
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It's still grounded on the belief that men are oppressing women through physical force when the stats say there's a lot more reciprocal intimate partner violence going on than what we're seeing. Erin Pizzey asked the women she gave shelter to how many of them attacked their men too and all of them said they did. But the men went to jail. did not intervene when men beat their partners And I mean, how many people intervene when women attack their partners? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GccCWo_eZ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 02:12 AM
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Not going to argue with you on that, though men tend to be far more equitable when it comes to desiring across the board, racially speaking. Black women are at the bottom of the totem pole. However women tend to be worse: https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060 White men are overwhelmingly more desired than any other race group. As for the beauty standards, I know quite a few men who desire women outside of their own race group, or who do prefer darker skin (myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 01:39 AM
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I also like the part where women are controlling the world and manipulating men every step of the way, but they're also feckless idiot teenagers with no object permanence who secretly want to be roughly dominated and kept like a housepet Yep like how men are controlling the world, manipulating women every step of the way, but they're immature manchildren who cannot figure out how to operate the washer. Difference is, women's conspiracy theory not only gained a lot of traction, it influenced how …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:35 PM
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Is there a RPer busting your door down and bad mouthing you? Is there a pro lifer/pro abortionist busting your door down and bad mouthing you? Is there a racist busting their door down and bad mouthing you? Your argument is terribly flawed if you believe opposing ideologies can co-exist without one talking shit about another. But do keep in mind that when men have tried to shed light on their issues and even meet to discuss them, feminists not only held enough sway in the media and academia to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:20 PM
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To be fair, there are plenty young attractive brown women who get attention too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:21 PM
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So you're a special snowflake. However, women cheat at roughly the same rate as men. If you choose to be neurotic about it, that's fine. But your projecting your insecurities onto men is different from wanting men to understand the female experience. If part of the female experience is insecurity and neuroticism, then that's okay, but just admit it's not based primarily on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:20 PM
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Women, in general have stronger social networks than men because they make stronger social networks than men. You're half right. Women still receive a lot more attention and support from both men and women. Thus they can afford to maintain stronger social networks with less effort. Hence my point about not putting in zero effort. Yout belief is that women are just better at it, but it's easier to maintain something when others actively support it due to a privileged position. Like I said, go ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 05:52 AM
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So the first claim that a lot of men here are like x is true, but when there's a claim that the women here are like y, it's not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 05:16 AM
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emotional labour This term was originally used to describe the labour service people put in when dealing with customers. I.e. being nice the entire time even when someone is being difficult. It's actually telling that women use this to describe their own relationships as if they're putting up with people who make them miserable. The belief that men put in zero effort is also sexist AF when men do have deep bonds with other men and bust their asses to gain women's approval (RP is a giant beacon o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:22 AM
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If you're darker, I hear Europeans love the exotic look. I'd have to hide my wife from them if I ever travelled there though...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:02 AM
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They weren't talking about average. But average doesn't matter as most women ignore most men. This is excluding the fact that men are generally seen as more disposable, so empathy is harder to come by. This is why so many men get frustrated with the complaints by women as it just limits them even more and doesn't take into account their experiences. FtM trans people will tell you it's a lot lonelier being a man, and despite having 20x the testosterone, you just have to deal with it. If a woman i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:59 AM
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most of them would have liked to get married and are disillusioned That and some didn't see the divorce coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:42 AM
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Dude, you don’t have to be a mind reader. It’s the same thing as a guy kissing his boss’ ass because he wants a promotion. It’s usually just obvious when somebody is a weak kiss ass as opposed to a genuine person. Human beings have evolved to understand sub-communication like vocal tonality and body language, and women are naturally better at reading them than men. Right. So there's a few problems here. If women are indeed so great at it, why do so many of them complain about their former partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:24 AM
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I absolutely think there are genuinely great/ kind and sincere guys So nice guys This sort of "nice guy" And 'nice guys'. So your whole post is about being nice getting a sexual response. But you're claiming some guys are being fake nice. Enough men have heard that nice is better to the point that even assholes will try to be nice first. But trying to separate nice guy from fake nice guy is not going to work. I've seen them use a TM at the end. Try separating peace lover from peace lover (TM) an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 02:03 AM
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Women never say they're sexually attracted to niceness. One of the first things women say when men ask is they want someone nice and respectful. Someone who is chivalrous and won't pressure her into sex. Someone who is sensitive, especially to her needs, and does things for her that make her happy. You don't get these things from an asshole. Boys are not just getting this from women their age. Older women, who have their own baggage and issues, dump these on the boys through the advice. They thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:42 AM
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20 - 20 = 0
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:29 AM
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Women are attracted to nice guys when their niceness is an extension of their beliefs/comes from a strong sense of self. Your niceness is neither genuine nor self-affirming if it comes from a place of insecurity and an urge for social acceptance. I'd love to meet these mind readers who instinctively know the difference. Because many a genuine nice guy has been an emotional tampona beta orbiter who was that shoulder to cry on when Chad was caught cheating. And she's shocked, shocked I tell you, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:29 AM
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Classist much? Ha! Hahaha! Hahahahahahahahaha! How do you think I know who those smelly people are? Been everywhere, have friends and family from all backgrounds. The smelliest folk I knew were indeed poor and could not afford roll on and deodorant. Farmers are some of the most decent men I know. Farmers are indeed nice people. Where did I say these people were the scum of the earth? Even nice people smell after a day of manual labour, though. And given that margins are so tight right now, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:19 PM
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Yep, special snowflakes who are in no way representative of the trend. Men have addressed this on PPD before. Usually they have to talk about trends while adding 'and I know you, the ladies of PPD, are different, would never do this or treat your men differently but...'
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 12:59 PM
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Tall (6ft plus), college degree, employed with decent amounts of disposable income, no kids but wants kids, good looking, fit, a good lover, has his shit together, good dresser, good in social situations, strong character, funny enough to make you laugh, in touch with his feelings without being too feminine, able to handle you 'at your worst', supportive, older than you... I've seen longer, but that's generally the laundry list. They also put things in like 'red flags', such as playing too many …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:22 AM
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Why are you dating smelly men? Where do you find them? Do you live in the ghetto or among manual laborers? The guys that smelled the worst are usually the dudes coming from a day of physical labour, such as working on a farm, from a mine, or doing heavy lifting, digging and construction. If you're hanging around those guys you've no one else to blame for picking them. You can change your social circle, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:14 AM
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Take note how often she talks about her feelings. Her mom is very practical about her future. She's chasing things that are as fleeting as feelings when marriage needs stability. She's clearly not ready now, but that doesn't mean he will be when she hits the epiphany phase. She actually did this man a favour. If even the introvert types who are like him are not going to settle down, he may as well start pumping and dumping them now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/02/19 05:02 AM
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Definitely fits here. Probably not after year 4...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/02/19 01:14 PM
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Because we do indeed live in a world affected by things like shame and social pressure. I bet the kids who attended conversion therapy and attempted to pray the gay away wished they could just not care. But it wasn't that easy. We may not be as quick to set the heretics alight for different views, but young people are still highly impressionable and these impressions may last for a while. Furthermore, these dating preferences can also lead to success or failure. A man stating he wants a slender …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 08:14 AM
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They removed the level cap. You can indeed max out everything now!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 06:35 AM
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Story as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:53 AM
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And it's not like he's shredded. Yeah but he has social status. She points out how much she enjoyed the attention being a small town girl herself. So it hurts, not because he isn't shredded, but because a possible social status boost and meal ticket slipped through her fingers. This would be like an attractive but poor woman turning down a man who is average but poor because he is broke. Not because he is ugly. Different value systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:52 AM
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Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:26 PM
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Call the whambulance. Can't. The feminists got it first.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 02:25 PM
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Every slasher film chooses to kill the sexual hot girl first Nope, it's the black guy who dies first. There are also usually a limited number of black men while there are many attractive women, some of whom are the protagonists. Also, more men die off in these movies than women. I think a better comparison would be a woman killing off and/or torturing men and women. Take slasher movies, torture porn and change all the genders and you'll see more or less what OP is on about. I don't agree that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:29 AM
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Dude, I just can't.... It seems you couldn't for a while now...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:22 AM
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It’s the guys giving in to the pressure who are unattractive as a result. Defying it, especially defying it successfully and refuse to bend to the diktats of others, is (at least in men) attractive behaviour as an act in itself (seperatefrom whether the behaviour itself is attractive or not). Giving women what they say they want backfires? Defying this works? And then they wonder why RP exists or why some men call feminism a giant shit test...there's just no way to win us there?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 06:05 AM
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People say this but they don't look beyond that he seems nice. There are other attractive features on a person that would make it easier to get a partner. However, the biggest issue for men and women is timing. These men who cannot get a girlfriend woke up too late through no fault of their own. Women do the same but the consequences can be worse due to how late they put off finding a good man. So a guy can afford to be nice if he's attractive in other ways: tall, has money, is good looking, has…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 05:13 AM
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Damn those nice guys for being considerate in ways women refuse to be. They should go for the jugular and be as vindictive as women, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 11:35 PM
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the last word If you want to get this in, you have to go to his swinger parties. A lot of things 'get in' at those parties...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:58 AM
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Homies over hoes! Do the homie!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:55 AM
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What, the encounter lasts a short while and I feel bad about it forever? This. If you're that horny, fuck someone else. Pussy's the same whether it's her or a prostitute. Or, better yet, get a girlfriend or get married so your balls are perpetually empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:54 AM
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Red Pill: too damn angry all the time. At some point they have to make peace with the fact that they're probably not going to live Chad's life and that trying to make up for lost time is a temporary fix. Even if they do get more ass than a toilet seat, it's not the route to a fulfilling life. There's only so much resentment you can have towards women, especially considering you're doing all this just to gain their favour. Ironic, isn't it? Bluepillers: so many fallacious arguments. Unrealistic e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:51 AM
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every social movement seeking a cultural change and/or accompanying programs/laws is going to have your zealots and those who "take it too far". Usually they don't get political and academic sway to the extent these crazies have. Taking it too far is one thing. Drawing up laws and policies as a result is another.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:36 AM
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If you process them and you don't have a DNA database to store the results in, then you have just destroyed your sample. Do the cops not have a DNA database to store the info in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:09 AM
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because a very few people abuse the system. What? People abuse the system all the time. The rules exist because people abuse systems. It doesn't matter if one or a million abuse it. The system should have ways to prevent abuse so innocent people don't suffer as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/19 05:07 AM
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Hey, don't go shattering the Just World Fallacy like that. You know he's digging in the garbage because, according to feminist theory, he's the empowered one in the scenario. He isn't a mentally ill, substance addicted, poverty stricken victim of a society that doesn't give a shit about him. No, he's the scum of the earth for being homeless and not behaving like a perfect gentleman when princess decides to brave the city's streets. I am sure the time a homeless man was leaning against a pole wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 06:31 AM
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It's ironic that listening to women and trying to give them what they say they want is less successful than not giving a fuck. The whole premise of a nice guy is someone trying to give women what they want. They love a nice guy so much, they wish for "someone like you"... but not actually that guy. They don't see the logic gap in wanting a guy like him and not wanting him. The awkward silence following this conversation, and how often the conversation just ends after "you deserve a nice woman", …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 05:00 AM
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There are always comments from women, including young women, about how shitty men are. But when it started coming from authority figures, adults, from about high school for me. One time a teacher gave us an assignment to describe our perfect partners. The boys took a traditional approach and were all shamed for wanting 'slaves'. None of the girls were shamed for their preferences, though. Later on, female teachers would make comments about things like all the estrogen in the water is good for wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:22 AM
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I think if someone cannot be an active citizen in a healthy way, letting them resign themselves to porn and video games ain't so bad. Especially if no one desires them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:24 PM
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Discipline = being a pussy, it's the same thing as passivity. Something happens: You do nothing. So you've never seen men in the military using discipline to establish routines, to learn and get stronger? Really? I don't think you know what discipline means. So why would you teach them to not do that? You're just pussifying them. Did you even read my post? I was supporting them learning to fight, such as martial arts. MMA is great to learn. It also offers discipline and you learn to respect othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:22 PM
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If women are destroying western civilisation so easily, maybe women aren’t the problem. You've literally just removed responsibility for women's actions as if they have no agency. This is incredibly sexist. It implies women cannot be trusted to do the right thing and should not be responsible for anything. Are you really suggesting women are incapable of better behavior? Why do women deserve more sympathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:11 PM
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A woman can date a good guy and he can still end up abusive. At which point she can leave. But if she chooses to stay, she has no one else to blame because it is her choice to stay. Furthermore, you're supposed to vet potential partners to see if they're abusive. People who end up being abused often ignore red flags along the way, such as controlling behavior, short fuses, temper tantrums, manipulation etc that is excused. The second this shit happens they should reconsider the relationship. No …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 03:34 PM
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That and obesity. The testosterone levels dropped because of lack of physical activity. If you're huge, getting to the sex part is going to be more difficult, especially for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:12 AM
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Yes but using an extreme exception like that cannot and does not disprove the trend. This is like pointing to Maria del Carmen Bousada de Lara and saying women can give birth at 67 years old, so Mother Nature can get shafted. Sure, but what are the chances of success for the average woman and thus is it feasible to tell short men to just be above average to stand a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 07:06 AM
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I used to hit people who made me mad when I was a little kid, including girls. My natural inclination. So you expressed your frustration and anger physically. Something many boys do. Was it wrong to teach me otherwise? No. But the solution is to not say 'don't get physical'. That teaches him that passivity is better. Send him to do martial arts, play soccer or do other sport that allows him to get his aggressive energy out and teach him discipline. Discipline doesn't mean do nothing. It should t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 06:56 AM
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This. Every woman is settling. Not a single one sees that imperfect man as her equal. She can be overweight, unattractive and still believe she deserves only the best or else she's settling. The author gets so close many times, even pointing out how she's not as attractive as before and men wouldn't want that. But the entire article is really her grieving that the perfect man didn't find her and now she has to date shitty men or be single. Even her married friends can't help but complain about l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/19 01:17 AM
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Yep. I experienced the same shit. Frustrating as hell thinking being stable and kind means you're higher value than dangerous and an asshole. But the assholes got fucked way more than at a gay orgy. Your beta qualities are only useful when she's done riding the carousel and she has no other options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 12:47 AM
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Why do you think the community attracts so many "omega males" rather than "beta men" who are decent guys but just need a few fixes here and there? Desperation. They all want to be 'good enough' to get a woman's interest. Nothing else has worked. Their failures sound similar to the struggles of other men, including betas. So therefore, rhey think, the community may be able to help them. There isn't really anywhere else for men that no one desires. They used to join the military, be killed off or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 03:49 PM
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There's a term called 'fuckable', which means she makes the minimum threshold to have sex. This threshold isn't enough to make a guy lose all sense, but he'll notice something about her that makes her hot enough. Maybe she's got nice legs or some serious cleavage going. However, even men notice the difference between a 6 and a 9. The 9's going to get a second or third look. Just how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:30 PM
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Yep. Precisely. Either women believe attraction is complicated because they have such high standards they need a guy to bring more than his average looks to the party or they're pulling a fast one so as not to look shallow. I think it's mostly the former. One time I went out and spotted a woman I knew. She had dated a buddy of mine before but they broke up. Wasn't a few minutes before a tall, well built, square jawed white dude walked in and she was all over him. Like she just met him and she wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:24 PM
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someone wanting to dump a load of cum in you and treat you literally like possession doesn't mean he values you as person. Women don't derive any worth from being a breathing Kleenex. Women are the ones interpreting it that way. Men are the ones busting their asses trying to get laid. They're out approaching women, even trying to learn how to be more appealing just to get women to give them some damn intimacy. They're doing most of the work just to get a woman to say yes. To men, sex is awesome.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 09:54 AM
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I'm pretty sure most men would fuck goats if you left them alone with the goat for long enough Just because you'd do it doesn't mean you get to project that onto others. Do you seriously believe that's how men are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 08:55 AM
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Aside from the dude pretending to be a male model and getting away with creepy comments in online dating and how often gang members, men in jail and other criminals are always getting laid... I've seen it too. One dude was crazy. As in he needed his meds crazy. As in he stripped one day and threatened to kill himself crazy. He'd go to a club, meet a woman there, be making out with her on the dancefloor, fuck her that same night. Then when she'd realise he's nuts, she'd leave. If it lasted a week…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 02:09 AM
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What women? You say this when someone accuses women of being emotional AFTER claiming the men have no empathy...sigh... Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:29 AM
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pay for your own paternity test. Then ladies, please pay for your own contraceptives. Please don't expect a salary when you go on maternity leave, so make sure to pay for that yourself. And most of all, stop taking more out of the system than you're putting in. Leave the taxpayer's out of it. If you're that concerned about the wellbeing of taxpayers, you should be extremely worried about the net negative effect women have on tax. They're gaining more than they're putting in. The least they could…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:25 AM
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which races are "beautiful" past 40?? I've met quite a few black women who look like they never left their 30s, who are almost 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 11:19 PM
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You mean like with bugs? No, no I do not... Well, what better way to introduce you to the game than watching a modern legend, AB De Villiers, belting the opposition to all corners of the park. Your decision on this as a national sport will determine the length of your reign. Just sayin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 02:36 PM
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This is all just a for fun thought experiment. Hell as Empress I could just be like, fuck it, no more legal or privacy rights for anyone muahahahaha! But I'm not trying to be that type of Empress lol. Before I decide to support your regime or begin a rebellion against your oppression, I have a few questions. What is your stance on marijuana? What do you think about cricket as the national sport? What would you choose: burgers, pizza or burritos?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/19 10:58 AM
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Been queuing at the voting station since 4am already, man! I know where I'm putting my mark!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 11:36 PM
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It's how broad the search is. Like imagine if you're a guard in the parking area and they're asking you to submit DNA for testing. You're not guaranteed it won't be in a government database for surveillance. People shouldn't be okay with allowing their government to take these minor steps towards authoritarianism. It's also hypocritial for people on the sub to be okay with this but to oppose mandatory paternity tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 06:16 AM
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How do you poor oppressed people make it through each day? Yes, it's about as tough as you coming up with an actual argument that isn't laden with sarcastic eye rolling so you can revel in self righteous smugness. It must be awful. Only when non-arguments like yours come along. Otherwise it's very average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 04:38 AM
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Fortunately for women, they had the Rockefellers bank rolling their movement so they could overcome the issues. This was so capitalists had a greater supply of slaves workers and could keep wages more competitive. Those billionaires are pretty scarce now, so while women enjoy being smug about how they got their demands met, they were backed by serious money. Money MRMs don't have. If only you had male lawmakers and male representation in politics. People who believe in identity politics make ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:26 AM
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Preaching to the choir
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:14 AM
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Attractive women actually have fewer sex partners. Even obese women have high N counts. Your premise is flawed because you're removing women's role in all this. Why should men behave better when women refuse to do the same? Sluts should be of great concern to women who desire good men but team woman will keep defending women's poor behavior. You also fell into the same trap so many women do when looking for a 'good man'. They define a good man's attributes in a way that benefits women at the cos…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 04:02 PM
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There are plenty on the coasts. Fit, attractive, successful and in relationships and marriages with high value men, feminine too. Ah, the coffee shop feminist. Able to extract the benefits of a traditional relationship without it's responsibilities and still claim she's supporting a worthy cause because she believes in freedom. If only they knew what the movement really was about...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:19 AM
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Yep, they're beta orbiters hoping their agreeableness will lead to sex and relationships. The politicians are only on women's side because they bolster your voting numbers from women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:16 AM
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It is terrible as women were not slaves shipped over from another continent. It's also starting with a flawed premise that women are not equals, which would mean the end of feminism the second women had equal rights. They now have more rights than men. Job's done but apparently there's "still a long way to go" because the money and benefits need to keep coming for a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 06:15 AM
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Women of color did all the same work as males Women worked but it was limited work compared to men. They weren't doing the kind of heavy lifting men were doing and they weren't being sent off to war. Men were also expected to sacrifice themselves for the continued survival of women and children (the Titanic, for example). Yes, women worked. But this belief that women were slaves while men were slacking off all day has to die. It has never been that way. Men were not having parties at the office.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:38 AM
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Yes but it's so pervasive and they've done very well to label all criticism of feminism and women as sexist, so even if it's obvious they're about women first, pointing it out gets you nowhere. That and male feminists have put pussy on the pedestal so they are willingly blind to the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 11:32 PM
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I know about the safety issue, but women have never been so thirsty that a 7 would consider fucking a 4 out of desperation. A starving man would consider a cracker a delicacy. There's also the supply and demand. The only time women experience it is when Chad's around. That being said, I suspect women's desperation at getting married and having kids when they near 30 is similar, but it's still only a minor inconvenience by comparison as they still have more suitors than men do. Plus men are biolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 06:17 AM
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Women increasingly believe that men approaching them is creepy. While it is possible, the options are becoming limited. There's also money to be made from peoples' desperation, especially online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:33 PM
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It's the testosterone. If only women knew what it was like, there'd be a lot more sympathy blowjobs for a lot more average guys. Female bodybuilders on testosterone experience it, as do ftm trans men. The thirst is real, much of the media is sexualized and as much as women claim they hate the attention, they're on social media enjoying the support of thirsty men, who they're never going to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 11:31 PM
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Men die off more frequently and younger than women do. The pool of eligible men also has to be willing to marry. Look at what happened after world war one and two, after millions of men were killed. Average men were playing the field while women were settling for men they'd normally not bother with. Remove enough eligible men from the dating market and women have to settle or risk being single. Single moms in their 30s are experiencing it. Fewer men are getting tertiary educations than before an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:45 PM
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Well, there are probably divorced women around but they tend to raise their standards. Look, you can have the demanding ones past their prime or the young sex dolls who have perfected the art of suppressing their gag reflexes. You can't have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:33 PM
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Vasectomy. You could, but if the poster wasn't willing to put that much work into relationships, having a medical procedure you have to pay for and recover from is a lot of work. Then factor in the effort required to even find some women DTF on a semi regular basis and you're cutting your balls when jerking off to porn or visiting a brothel would yield more guaranteed results.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 03:29 PM
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Flings are still an effort because women are nowhere near desperate enough to be the approachers or initiators of anything. They'd probably let the population dwindle before that happens. Flings are also risky. Condoms are not perfect and not every woman can be trusted when they claim to use contraceptives. The amount of vetting required to drastically reduce the risks would put you closer to relationship territory. The kind of place women tend to say they want more control over, but despise men…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:37 AM
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The bar will be that low you'll be nailing hot college chicks in your 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 05:30 AM
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It's why RP exists. But your post is a little ignorant of the position many men are in. They either take what they can get or they just be alone. Many of them just rather go their own way. This advice is great for women because women get approached more. They tend to get dates easier. They are the choosers. Yes, men can vet too, but their options are quite limited. You're talking about being picky when choosing between maybe two women who are maybe not that great. Online dating is a barren land …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 01:02 AM
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Even so, it's not a valid criticism when there are plenty of things people are insecure about. A woman who is frustrated with her dating prospects at 30 and wants to settle down is shown support. A man who points out issues with women's behavior, by contrast, is insecure. A woman who is demanding and has a laundry list of desired traits is empowered while a man's preferences are somehow oppressive and sexist. The same people criticising the guys for being insecure are the same ones complaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:20 PM
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Also, it's not about looks. Well... https://www.boredpanda.com/social-experiment-guy-created-fake-tinder-profile-hot-model-pictures-germanlifter/ He: Can you sit on my face so I can eat my way into your heart? She: What are you doing tonight? He: Jerking off to your pics. She: Let's hang
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:09 PM
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Sheeeeyit, I got a mention! Thanks, u/Whodunnit88, you made my night!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:10 AM
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being strong, decisive and confident is which because of traditional gender roles, i guess, is seen as bitchy. No. It's seen as masculine, which is not attractive. The problem is that women who are bitchy claim they're strong, decisive and confident. However, a woman can be strong, decisive and confident without being bitchy. She can resist becoming a slut, stick to her values and commit to actions. She can make plans about her future and act upon them. She can learn and improve herself. She can…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 01:22 AM
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Yep. Women just don't want to acknowledge they have flaws that are expressed in a feminine way. They take criticism of their poor behavior as criticism of their femininity or of women, which is frowned upon due to their fragile egos. So when she is a bitch, she deflects criticism by claiming sexism, that men are just intimidated by her or she justifies it as her deserving only the best because she's a special snowflake princess. Things like gossip, passive aggression and feeling entitled to bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 12:33 AM
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So the advert is quite prescriptive in the behavior it says men should aspire to. It's terrible as an advert because it's trying to market to men without actually understanding men. It's as if they were trying to ride the metoo movement's popularity while still trying to appeal to men. It highlights issues of sexual harassment and toxic masculinity but encourages men to change. However, for a bunch of razor blades, it's reaching too far. It also basically tells men they're shit as they are and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:57 PM
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If you're starving even ocassionally, it's going to be hard to be even slightly overweight. If you want to test this out yourself, eat only every second day. There are health benefits to it too and you age slower!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:39 PM
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Gimme all them bottom heavy girls with those big thighs and asses. Amen brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:35 PM
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Niceness/agreeableness. Ditch her if she's a bitch. Friendly, smiling, happy women are far more feminine than grumpy, difficult women who enjoy power struggles and treat people (like service staff) like dirt. Physical appearance. This isn't just about looks, but can she dress well? Does she know how to dress in a way that complements her body? What about her posture and overall demeanour? Her body. Yes, it's important. For me it's her curves. A curvy woman with a bit of extra weight gets extra p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:33 PM
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Wasn't arguing against you. Just pointing out that men have to be willing to break the law to attract some women. Women just need to show up willing...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 02:22 PM
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She stabbed him in the neck she seemed quite nice Wut?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:18 AM
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If they have to do a tour overseas, you don't see your partner for months at a time. It's a recipe for cheating to happen. That and he may return in a casket someday. Whatever's left of him, anyway. That's not something I'd want to go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:15 AM
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I once read a redpiller's view on implementing redpill ideology. He said he finally has women desiring him. He gets laid, he has relationships. Life is good. But there's that 1% in the back of his mind wondering "why does it have to be this way?" Most men would rather be nice and kind to women first. They don't want to play games to get their interest. They want women to play nice too, but they just don't want to. RP is the death knell for a man's image of women. It shatters the false reality ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 06:10 AM
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And then maybe taking testosterone...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:54 AM
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That woman is nuts. The first guy is probably training three times per day including doing something like boxing or MMA. That woman is probably just not stuffing her face. Is it so hard for women to resist food that they think it's the equivalent of 2 hours+ of work in the gym per day?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:30 AM
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Man, I'd love to see someone get funding to research something that is not flattering to women, and without getting harassed for trying to publish the results, in an academic setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:30 PM
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TRP positions itself as an authority on women There is being an authority and being advocates. Feminists talk on behalf of women so they are advocates too. TRP looks at their behavior and draws conclusions about what women desire sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:08 PM
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Men: In order to increase your chances of getting laid you have to be above average, dress well, learn game, have a job, be exciting and break the law for women to desire you. Women: just show up and be DTF...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:04 PM
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Well this is scientifically proven to be true, at least if you count the gay community. Well, those guys are pretty happy...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:51 PM
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You know, when women freak out about mainstream media making them uncomfortable about their bodies, such as an advert about being beach ready, I hope you're telling those ladies to: calm the fuck down
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 01:48 PM
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Unfortunately the unstable guy is still getting more interest from women than stable dude. Stable women do not put out as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 10:57 AM
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Feminists love to position themselves as authorities on women and what women want. Talking on behalf of women is something they love to do, especially when wagging their fingers at those no good men over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:27 AM
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As a knock on some men, an unstable man who can't control his emotions is a dangerous and untrustworthy creature, capable of doing great harm to all around him. Still gets laid more than stable beta guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:20 PM
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I.e. the hotter you are, the more your creepy behavior can be excused.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:18 PM
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True. Western culture seems to be more individualistic. It comes with more freedom but less care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 07:30 AM
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It's been discussed before but it hardly relates to sexual strategy. It's more about organisation. There's nothing stopping a couple from getting the grandparents involved or giving the older cousin a bit of cash to babysit so they can have a date night.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 04:50 AM
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Yep. This. They had zero clue. They weren't being assholes, they just didn't know. They still get blamed for not getting it, though, as if they are supposed to understand how women communicate intrinsically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 11:33 PM
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Problem is those women are also promiscuous. Who else are those guys fucking? If you're in a relationship in a highly promiscuous environment, it's probably not going to last long anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 05:35 AM
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I wasn't talking legally, but in response to the criticism that women don't get enough recognition for what they do. Here we have a record of what she did. No one can put a 70 billion price tag on what she did and justify it as worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 04:03 AM
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Not even high class prostitutes earn that much. She didn't earn 70 billion by fucking her husband. She didn't earn that much at all. Pussy is not worth 70 billion. My point was that feminists were happy to claim housework and wife's work as equivalent to a job. But she doesn't have to do anything if her husband is rich. So if you put a price tag on what she does, he's better off paying far, far less for younger and sexier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/19 03:59 AM
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AI can only do so much, though. And it's still cheaper to let humans risk their lives for dangerous, but necessary, jobs. It would be hard to replace emergency service staff with machines, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 11:24 PM
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No. You're not wrong. If men demanded better from women while also improving themselves, a lot of issues would vanish. However, this doesn't absolve any poor behavior from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 03:47 PM
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If indirect communication isn't working, then you have to go the direct route. He clearly isn't getting it and if you know he isn't, then you have to do more than hint. If a coworker wasn't getting your instructions, you'd make them clearer. If your friends cannot find your home, you'd give them more accurate directions. If you know he's not getting it but you keep communicating indirectly, you're going to have to shoulder more of the blame when he won't go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 12:51 PM
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I think it's in response to the complaints feminists have about people questioning if she deserves it. If their common criticism of the system is that women don't get enough recognition for the work they do, even going so far as to claim housework is a job, then here we have a record of what work she did. Is it really worth 70 billion, though? Women who marry rich men or whose partners become rich are not even doing a lot of work though because they'll have people doing stuff for them. If all sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 07:04 AM
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I's often the same guy repeatedly. If only women said this instead of saying that 'men' won't leave them alone. That one guy is the reason for a lot of unnecessary shit, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:01 AM
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You're ovaryacting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 04:00 AM
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Ha! The way women go on, it's like they're fighting off being harassed from dawn til dusk. Even when they're not getting hit on, they have to watch out for the male gays male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:58 PM
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No one ever said it would be this hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:52 PM
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This is a little evasive. Would the government, your boss or a stand up comedian be able to get away with the same argument? If you see a shitty looking car, regardless of how bad yours is, you know what you're looking at is a piece of shit. The glass houses argument is meant to highlight hypocrisy. But puleaspartarus69 admitted to being ugly and it's not like only beautiful people get to pass judgement on unattractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:51 PM
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Attributing it to culture, eh? I'd still like to know when the pursuit of profit has worked without exploiting or hurting others in the process. But its not like anyone is trying to bring them different jobs or anything. If you look at the world as resource to exploit for profit, then yes, human life only has value in labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/19 03:26 PM
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Does it? Profit itself by and large doesn't come without exchanging money though. So how can it be at someone's expense if both parties get what they want? On this point, profit cannot and has not existed without someone losing something. It doesn't have to be between the two people making the deal, but the effects are felt and the cost is paid by someone along the line. The pursuit of profit has led to massive exploitation, slavery, environmental destruction and, if you like, soul crushing cubi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:10 PM
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Yep. When Europe opened it's doors to the refugees from the middle east and women from Scandinavian (read: very feminist) countries were being assaulted and raped, guess who they blamed? European men for not defending women when they demanded it. Equality be damned. Men have to be chivalrous and be willing to die for women's benefit but they dare not expect anything in return or else it's misogyny. Ladies, if you're expecting men to lay down their lives for you, the least you can do is suck a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 10:52 AM
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Even the sea lion would consider herself too good for him. There's a trend among overweight women where the fatter they are, the more entitled, narcissistic and demanding they're allowed to be because they're all 'queens'. A self respecting overweight woman may believe she's worth more, but two unattractive people who have over estimated their value are actually a perfect fit. At least u/despisedbywomen understood this and is not as much of a doormat anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 02:01 AM
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Yep. Raised by women can include mom making all the decisions. Going to a daycare run by women. Going to school where there are just female teachers. Boys like to compete. They play rough at times. This gets drummed out of them (it's dangerous! use your words!) by the time they're in middle school. But what happens when they don't get to express their masculinity but want to find a partner? They become doormats. They become like women. And women have been telling them their whole lives that bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 01:55 AM
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A 40 year old doctor will wife up anything? If he hasn't married anyone at 40, he has not wifed up anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:36 AM
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Yeah but she's doing at 26 what she should have done at 20. She left herself no room to recover and she didn't develop herself to match his value if she fears he will lose attraction. This story is unrealistic. Even RP women know that if you want to marry a general, get him when he's a lieutenant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:34 AM
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You are the exception then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 12:26 AM
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certainly it is possible for alpha males to have been raised with little to no male role models. Do you disagree? Possible? Maybe. Probable? Doubtful. Chad doesn't just have a one up on looks. He has an upbringing that is supportive. Consider a musically gifted man. If he has no money to back him, he'll probably become a starving artist, doing covers for scraps. With a family backing him, he could go on to become a composer. Athletes are the same. You need to be going to the best schools to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:24 PM
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Haha! Thanks for that!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 12:01 PM
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There are a few factors at play here: genetics, personality, but one of the biggest is education. Someone born with no chin or very short may struggle more than a square jawed, 7ft tall hulking beast of a man. But even they can benefit from the truth: women do not like feminised men no matter what they tell you. Boys growing up with little to no male role models, being lied to about what women really want and being treated like defective girls betafies them before a single hormone can set them s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:51 AM
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I only had LTRs when I was young. I've mostly only had casual sex since I've been over 30. I'd like another LTR but everyone's married or doesn't do commitment. Why'd those early LTRs end? And if you're not married by your thirties, it's much harder. As you noticed, the good ones arw taken. You've either got to do what men did when they were young and lower your standards, or wait for the divorced guys to come around and hope they don't have kids. It sucks but men pretty much have to wait until …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 07:15 AM
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A drag from a fag means something different to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:29 AM
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A drag from a fag means something different to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:28 AM
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Right, and these women don’t care that they’re using a hateful word for homosexuals and rape victims. I guarantee many of them are self proclaimed feminists too. Feminists also appropriated the term rape culture, which was originally used to describe life in a male prison. Are these feminists all in prison gangs or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 06:04 AM
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how old were you when you actually started showering regularly In my 30s now but since I was a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:49 AM
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Yeah but it's not like women cannot show desire towards their partners. They just do it differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:47 AM
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But you're supposed to talk about your feelings with your wife, right? Isn't open communication exactly what women have been begging men for?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/19 05:45 AM
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You can Google the definition of feminism You're assuming the people here DON'T know what feminism is about? Okay, how about this then. Why is it not called Egalitarianism or Equalism? For a movement so concerned about how the gendered naming of things could affect the vulnerable female brain, they sure do make a point of not keeping things gender neutral themselves. Nope, the saviours of humanity are womankind, the feminine...where the term feminism came from. And they're here to crush the patr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:03 AM
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Dad asking for his money back is like saying he wants the title of dad but is going to treat them like some bastards he doesn't care about. Firstly, in the OP it says he still regards them as his boys and he misses them. Secondly, he should be refunded, not because he doesn't care for the kids, but because the mom lied and fucked everyone over. What should happen is the actual dad should pay this Richard guy back. Asking for his money back isn't asking his kids to pay, but asking the mom and rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:42 AM
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Sorry, but I'm not a US citizen. Nor am I rich. But something as simple as expecting men to pay for dates, which women vastly prefer, is what I mean when I talk about women insisting men adhere to traditional gender roles. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women-first-date-pay-for-dinner-men-gentlemen-dating-a8434401.html It's a trend that runs counter to what women claim they want, equality. Shouldn't they approach and pay equally? Shouldn't women be more willing to date down or marry un…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:38 PM
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Special snowflakism strikes again. Go read Norah Vincent's book Self Made Man. You're probably an exception but the dating market wouldn't be a shit show if everything was okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:34 PM
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I spoke about one aspect of it, which was 'guys, you'd get laid more too!' It didn't happen that way, but rather Chad got laid way more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:31 PM
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What power? The power to reject men? In a dating context, be realistic. Don't abuse the privilege and complain men just don't measure up. A bunch of single men aren't going to find random partners. They have to chance their luck with the available single women. Women are in the fortunate position of being choosers and don't actually have much empathy for the position men are in. Men have to appeal to women's preferences or risk shame and being single for not being a 'real man'. By contrast, a 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:28 PM
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Why do you even care about some women who you don't even want to date being too picky? How does it affect you? What is "taking responsibility" even? Because she's not thinking logically and it makes dating a shit show. When I was single, all I was doing was trying to prove myself to someone who, by default, didn't believe I was worth her time. Women don't understand this, nor do they understand what it's like to have their self worth or sexuality defined by the acceptance of the opposite sex. Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 11:22 PM
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Men aren't asking to roll back women's freedom but rather that women take some responsibility with that freedom. Issues include: Chasing a career, not settling down in time then wondering where Chad went when it's too late. Treating some men as sex objects while the rest are success objects, while calling any similar treatment from men sexism. Pricing herself out of the market then blaming men for being 'intimidated' without actually putting any effort into learning what men prefer. The hypocris…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 03:38 PM
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Women are human beings. Men are human doings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/19 11:31 PM
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Every man wants special treatment without really being special. I heard over and over again how men wouldn't date a woman who didn't put out (on the FIRST date) but would recoil in horror at a woman who has slept with more then 5-10 men. You see, the issue is that we've romanticised love to the point that it's about fulfillment. This will always lead to disappointment. It doesn't help that newer generations are being born into worlds with diminishing delays to gratitude. Even sex is a touch of a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 03:13 PM
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This makes sense. These are things that can be changed and perceptions that can be shifted about men. RP's views are pretty much that women are not worth committing to mostly, so don't bother. Both RPs and MRAs are concerned about a man's quality of life, but for different reasons. For RP, marriage is where sex and attraction go to die. For MRAs, marriage is where a man could potentially lose everything he's worked for and be abused, including by a system that cares very little for his wellbeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 02:51 PM
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That and all the men they friendzone. They could throw a rock with their eyes closed and hit a guy ready to worship the ground they walk on...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 12:07 PM
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This is like advising men to date grandmothers. If the hardware doesn't support the choice, it is not viable. So women have absolutely no choice in the matter? The bottom 80% are the equivalent of grandmothers? I am sure there's some agency in women, somwhere...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:33 AM
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This: So these women are choosing risky mates because they don't have a viable alternative. Is contradicted by this: It's either date a guy who is weak and a "good partner" or a guy that brings it. The good partner is very much a viable alternative. Women don't just attract jerks. They attract all types of men but just choose the shitty ones. What we can assume, therefore, is that they desire men who are poor partners. This doesn't incentivize men to be nicer, so women shouldn't complain when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:46 AM
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If an instigator finds boring okay, then sure, though most exciting people would probably seek exciting partners. Your previous point was that stable men are being turned down for being boring when most women are not doing much to be exciting to men either. Women seem to believe it's men's jobs to entertain them, keep them interested and show them a good time. But women hardly ever offer the same. Therefore, it's rather rich for boring women to complain that they don't like boring men. A boring …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 01:03 AM
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You don't see how 'put his weewee' over everything in response to a talk about mismatched perceptions is not an argument? It assumes that men only care about sex, which is not only a misrepresentation of the other poster's argument (strawman), it's also an attack (ad hominem) and it over simplifies a complex problem to 'y'all are just thinking with your little head.' To put that into perspective, if claiming men are just thinking of sex, a common argument about women is their higher neuroticism …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:08 PM
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Sure but women picking and choosing when traditional values applies to them is what gets men annoyed when they say "He who approaches, pays." This just means she doesn't have to pay for anything while still having a job and, if we really want to be extra traditional, having premarital sex. Why do the traditional rules only apply to him? She could at least offer to pay for half the date if she likes the guy and then not write him off if he accepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 12:00 PM
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They're not boring because they're stable. They're boring because they're boring. If it makes them feel better to tell themselves stories about how they're single because ladies can't stand their lack of drama, fine. But it's usually just because they're not actually fun or interesting, and literally no one wants to spend their lives with a person they don't find fun or interesting. Yeah but it's not like the women turning these men down are super interesting themselves. Women can be boring AF a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 07:05 AM
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Of course a man would put his weewee above everything. Of course a woman would ovaryact.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 11:17 PM
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Whoever invites the other out should be prepared to pay fully and traditionalists will expect the man to pay either way. If only women were inviting men out half the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 03:07 PM
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This is the old double standard. It's only false when the cops investigate, but anonymous surveys are good enough to prove the 1-in-5 stat true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:10 PM
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think lemonfloss has a point that mgtows inflate the risk of false accusation You mean like how feminists inflated the rape stats and got government support, even getting policy changes that caused universities to get sued for not following due process in false rape accusations on campus? Some MGTOW highlight an issue that has severe consequences (remember Brian Banks?) and also state that the false rape accusation rate may be higher due to the nature of how hard it is to prove, and there's a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 12:09 PM
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300,000 women a year get raped, (low estimate) every year, and you still expect women to go on dates with men. Who is forcing women to go out on dates? If it's so terrible, women can get their male family members to accompany them while they're outside if they're too afraid of the dangerous world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:53 AM
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Percentage of rapists who are never incarcerated: 97 perent Percentage of rapes not reported: 54 percent You cannot call them rapists if they were never convicted. You also cannot guess how many rapes exist without a report. Then you're just sucking numbers out of thin air. Whenever someone says 'x number of rapes were not reported', they're playing a guessing game. If someone collects data on it, there's also the question of validity, as in how can we know this truly was a rape without an inves…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 05:50 AM
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We can’t really have this conversation without you admitting false accusations are real and happen. OP is arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:54 AM
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Yeah, this just happened recently: https://vaaju.com/perueng/agustin-munoz-argentina-young-apologizes-for-false-accusation-of-rape-that-produced-suicide-facebook-twitter-instagram-world-latin-america/ Bariloche. Agustín Muñoz, 18, committed suicide after a week of being falsely accused of sexual abuse on social networks. This happened in Argentina. The English translation is not great, but the guy was harassed online and had his name chanted at a protest on an accusation alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 04:52 AM
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This is a big assumption that TRP is 100 % true It's not 100% true. These things work in degrees of severity. A short, overweight guy has more work ahead of him while a tall, good looking white guy practically has no need for any RP concepts. This is why some BP men and women cannot comprehend the problems less attractive men are talking about. No woman is going to stick around if he's not offering the kind of value she believes she's entitled to. About 3 months into my relationship with my wife…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 06:27 AM
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Good. Finally they'll be big enough to...er...put to good use ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:43 PM
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Has OP lost the use of their arms?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:41 PM
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There aren't enough women opening companies, climbing the corporate ladder or opening all girl schools with the aims of developing more female professionals. Even in more feminist countries, like Norway, women choose certain jobs over others: nursing, teaching, child care...these are traditionally feminine jobs as well. When women have more freedom of choice, they tend to adhere to some norms based on their gender. They don't choose STEM nor do they desire the stress and long hours of running a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:36 PM
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If we reduce the gap in average pay between men and women How do you do this without paying women more for less work/work that is generally paid less due to market forces? It would be illegal and companies are not going to dish out easy raises. Feminists want paid family leave for men and women, and want it to be more acceptable for men to be stay at home dads. Then tell feminists to convince women to marry unemployed men. Socially trying to engineer change by tackling symptoms and not causes is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:23 PM
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Well the assumption that women should drop out of the workforce to take care of children, not men, is what’s causing this gap Id argue. No one's forcing these women to quit. They can eventually return to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:16 PM
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9 goats! What do I get?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 04:10 PM
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Psst...Hail Sithis!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 03:35 PM
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Why, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 10:57 AM
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"well there is one way". Brown chicken, brown cow!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:12 AM
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Damn, that sucks. I grew up in a rough neighbourhood and had friends and family who did too. One family member was in a gang. The other was robbed at gunpoint and shot at. Others had break ins while they were at home. There isn't much else you can do but be vigilant and have a great security system to buy you time. My dad was packing for years until my mom convinced him to stop. We moved to a better neighbourhood when she couldn't take the gang violence anymore. We still had to be super cautious…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 01:03 AM
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Aquaman isn't Marvel
/r/MensRights31/12/18 05:38 PM
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Women have to be careful about a man losing his temper if he gets rejected because when a strange man gets upset we have no idea if he can control himself or if he is one of the psycho men who murder people. May sound extreme but it is something women worry about. Being worried about it and the reality are two different things. Men overwhelmingly do not murder women who reject them. Men are the ones who are attacked by men more often and they aren't as worried. It may feel real that you may be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:16 PM
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Or on online dating when a woman posts a pic of her boobs popping out the top of her turtle neck, or her tattood ass in a thong and she's like: "Not looking for sex..."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 03:58 PM
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That and if they are shitty to another tribe, you can pillage and score resources. Then women don't mind the more actively violent part of male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:42 PM
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Don't be fooled by how airbrushed and smooth their skin is. It was meant to avoid the 'no, that's not a five, this is!' argument. They do look like 7s, but the point was mainly that women in general are far more attractive to men than vice versa. I have women slightly below me who snub me, and women who are significantly below me thinking they are my equal. It's a tough situation for both men and women. People always try to punch up, but men tend to be far happier settling than women are. Also, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:59 AM
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Yes. That's true. But they still desired a man who would have to put far more effort into his looks than women would need to for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:52 AM
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This is true. But any picture I would have thrown at the lovely people of PPD would have been shot down as not the true average while no one provides examples of a true average. The point wasn't that average is shit. It's that the average woman is attractive enough to get far more sexual attention than the average man. The next best picture I could have given is this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Trufemcels/comments/8s0hnm/what_does_the_average_woman_look_like_compared_to/ If you look at the 5s, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:51 AM
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It's called Team Woman. Men realise that there are good guys and bad guys. That's why they don't defend assholes. They tell women not to date them and acknowledge the impact shitty guys have on the SMP. Women don't see things that way, for some reason, and will defend shitty behavior from other women. If she hit her man, "what did he do to deserve it?". This is probably why it's so hard for men to get women to understand the challenges they have in the SMP and why women have zero empathy, especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:28 AM
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Shit. Okay, you'll have to aim for weak spots then. Have you done any self defense classes at all? I knew a few women who did MMA and they werw not big at all. One did jiu jitsu and she'd have a guy in a wrist lock that is painful AF.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 04:24 AM
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If they touch you, touch them back. Harder. With your fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:36 AM
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Hahahahahahaha! She deserves gold for that one. The truck driver had no sense of humour?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:33 AM
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Just go ask male and female strippers what happens if someone touches them during a performance or how often members of the opposite sex do touch. One guy I knew said he was often swarmed by mostly middle aged women who had no respect for the rules nor his body. Disney even pulled the Tarzan character from it's park due to women harassing the men: http://www.lamag.com/longform/jacksparrow/ Disney warned us we were going to have a lot of horny women coming on to us. The male character they had pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 12:31 AM
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Average women between 18 and 30 are not that unattractive. https://stylecaster.com/average-women-beauty/ What women would have men believe is that male 8s should be settling for average women, based on their list of demands. If we were to isolate only the youngest women, then it would look closer to 20%, but men find women older than 18 attractive too. Men are also rather forgiving of women's looks, especially weight: https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/14/perfect-body-looks-like-according-men-women-763…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:40 AM
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So...why not make women hornier to even the playing field? More sex is great! Go ask gay men how awesome it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 11:33 PM
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Who said they don't want to fuck? But fucking isn't going to make women less lonely. Sometimes it makes them more lonely infact. Kinda like self-harm in a way. This was not your original argument, which is that women having casual sex is like a straight man having gay sex. The actual equivalent is a straight woman having lesbian sex. However, if she has a fuck buddy, she's choosing to sleep with him because she desires him. This is not the same as trying to sleep with someone you have no attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 02:58 PM
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Well usually we try to physically shy away and hope the guy gets the hint and stops, it’s a less risky strategy. Eventually most women would say “no” but it’s really the initator’s responsibility to read body language, and ask using words if body language is confusing. This was not the point the previous poster made. It was that women would risk sexual assault and rape than social criticism, which makes no sense. However, why is it expected of him to use words when body language is confusing but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:33 PM
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The way their approaching the problem in South Africa isn't a boy vs girl situation You clearly haven't seen their 'teach boys not to rape' remarks... this is a boy and girl vs the problem situation. And the girls are taking so little responsibility, they want boys to hang for not reading girls' minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:23 PM
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Women overwhelmingly prefer to be the ones who are pursued. Saying plenty make the first move doesn't mean it's the majority nor that they're initiating much more than being a bit more open and available to the men they like. Until it becomes a general social trend this: Plenty of women make the first move, if none are doing it to you, then that's you're problem not theirs. Is nothing more than a thinly-veiled swipe, which is not an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:20 PM
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How can you tell women they have to learn to speak up and be assertive without saying the same to OP? None of his plan to slowly work up touching is assertive, it's manipulative and geared towards breaking down boundaries slowly. Assertive people will say you are hot i want you, then wait for a confirmation that it's mutual before touching. Do you walk up to every stranger you like and start talking about sex? Or do you get to know them first? Your argument doesn't make sense because telling wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 11:17 PM
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On the other is possible that he doubles down becoming extra aggressive and violent. This almost never happens. If indeed it's such a terrible risk, then women could agree to make the first move. I've seen women use this argument so many times when actually, being assertive and giving a firm no actually does way more good than harm: https://police.uncc.edu/crime-prevention-safety/sexual-assault-prevention/reduce-risk-becoming-rape-victim https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/health/college-rape-pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:46 PM
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Aw shucks. It looked like such a cool party trick, too. "She guesses your mbti type or double your money back!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 04:32 PM
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Ooh, do me! Do me next!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 03:08 PM
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Many women have had the experience of saying no and getting a rage response or getting lectured about what a giant bitch they are because they do not want some weirdo playing with their hair. It bothers some women to get that label because they do not want to be hanging out with octopus man and some women are not bothered by it. So it's better for her to sit and take it lest some people say something that may make her take a knock in social status? Is the fear of social shame so large that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:41 PM
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You're seven dates in and she's still sitting there like a lump of coal... So she agrees to multiple dates with him but he's still the idiot for not getting it, right? Is a man supposed to get to date number seven and assume she's still not even a little into him? Why would she agree to a seventh date in the first place if she wasn't into him? The mixed signals definitely don't help, and if he likes her he has to initiate something. Women aren't the ones taking the risk of making the first move,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 02:38 PM
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Sure, the barriers to fucking this many people for the average women are 1.) standards of living (your quality of life would decrease to focus this much on one thing, and the inevitable damage low standards historically causes one's self image) and 2.) The physical limit to how many people congregate in one place. It's hard to meet 100 people anywhere. In a crowd of 200, maybe 15 are looking for casual anonymous sex - and of those 15, maybe 7 are the gender you want to have sex with. Once you ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 11:13 PM
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A friend and I spoke about this a few years ago about when we were single. The louder, douchier and worse we were as people, the easier it was to get sexual attention from women. Relationships came easier too, though the women were less than stable. And it's not like we didn't try being nice, respectful and caring first. The nice women weren't exactly hopping into the laps of nice men either. I've read it here and there, and discussed it with a few men, that men are generally saddened that being…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:49 PM
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I was a freaking escort Now imagine how much easier it would have been if you were NOT charging and were willing to sleep with a lot of different men. Yes escorts fuck a lot. But there's a barrier to sleeping with one that a slutty woman doesn't have: the desire to be paid to open her legs. Put another way, two mechanics are offering to repair cars. One does it for the passion and the other charges per hour. Who do you think will see more customers? As rare as the generous mechanic is, he could …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/18 02:16 PM
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1% of actual rapes end in conviction And you know the other 99% are rapes for sure and not, say, false because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 03:18 PM
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They tell us it would cost the taxpayers too much (who would pay for it?), ignoring the fact that women take more out of the system than they give in, and that their insurance is picking up the tab for birth control so women have no out of pocket cost. They also forget about shelters for domestic abuse victims that men don't have, which rakes in billions in support, much of which comes from big daddy government. No one is saying stop funding them, but the lack of care and empathy for men is blin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/18 11:25 AM
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