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| 0 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman."There are plenty of situations where the statistic being displayed in this way is completely appropriate and relevant." I stated to you - to which you responded "Name one". Now unless you were compiling a list of appropriate uses of the statistic, or unless you have a nervous tick that involves typing "name one" to random comments on Reddit - the only possible reason you could have to say that is that you disagreed that such a situation existed. As such, you, yourself, did indeed insinuate that… | /r/MensRights | 22/03/17 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.The first mention of the actual article does not appear until dozens of comments into the thread, at the time of the posting of my original comment - there was not a single mention of the original article in the thread. Confirmation bias, anecdotal evidence, and general sexist remarks appear in most of the top comments on the post. The OP made no effort to elucidate the source of the article, in fact the initial picture is downright blatant in its presentation of the statistic without context. I… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 05:57 PM |
| 0 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.I'm sorry, I never try to do this, I absolutely hate ending a discussion before it has truly ended, but you are completely and utterly failing to understand something that I have laid out as obviously and simple as humanely possible. I don't comprehend how you don't understand that a conclusion founded on poor logic can be criticized regardless of final correctness of the conclusion. You're trying to argue that there is no such thing as an informal logical fallacy, which is a foundational aspect… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Jake, I'm sorry but you're arguing in logical circles on the same points which you have yet to be able to successfully defend against my counters. As I said I my previous comment, and my comments before that, and I will say in this comment, MY CLAIM DOES NOT REST ON ANY ASPECT OF THE ACTUAL CONTEXT. If you look at my main comment on the thread, or any comment following, I am trying to bring to light the fact that the people in this thread should not jump to conclusions about the statistic withou… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 09:51 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Bold, font, and color are used to draw attention to a relevant part of a statistic, which, without the context, you have no way of determining whether or not is relevant in a sexist manner or not. It is not incorrect for me to not mention the context in that statement, because I am not bringing into question the sexism or lack thereof in the article, but rated the flaw in the presentation of the article and the discussion of the article in this thread. The statistic is not sexist, it was incorre… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Taken at face value, the statistic is a statement of a fact. You say that it's flawed people would wonder about possible contexts, yet you have supposed yourself that for some reason it has to have negative connotation. It is incorrect to assume the context of a statistic, especially when there are many valid, invalid, and everything in between possibilities of the statistic. I, again and again I state, am not arguing that the context is a justifiable context - I am arguing that the argumentativ… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Unless I'm having a stroke or something, OP never made any sort of comment with the article, so only those found it were those who specifically searched it out used the fragmented text accidentally featured in the cropped photo. And when the first ten or so comments follow as "anecdotal evidence" "anecdotal evidence" "snide remark with no mention of the content of the article" "anecdotal evidence".. There is clearly an issue of understanding what constitutes good and bad evidence in this environ… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 01:13 AM |
| 5 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.I, in no way, dispute the fact that the article is questionable in its use of the statistic. All I take issue with is the presentation of the statistic in this post, completely lacking relevant information from the article. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.This is one of those cases exactly, actually. The problem I see, a rather large one, is a flaw in understanding interpreting data. Right in front of me is a post on Reddit completely lacking in context, and arguments being formed based on said contextless information. Having an inability to critically think is a very, very, large problem - not small by any means - and as it is "right in front of me", it makes perfect sense to address it. The point of the what if statements is not that they are t… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:38 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman."Only looking at" does not equal "viewing with more importance". It is important to be a well informed member of the public, and as such publishing a piece about a less well represented group (female homeless), is important. What if legislature went through in a local community based on needs of homeless shelters, as it pertains to women's care? Then it would be incredibly important that the public understand how many women constitute the homeless population. Every article cannot address a wholi… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.(I can't respond to your first point, as it contains no actual logic. Simply stating that I am grasping at straws without proving my evidence false is not an argument) In many contexts of articles, bold and colored is a relevant way to display information. What if it was an article about tampons being introduced to homeless shelters, and they wanted to demonstrate that more homeless than you may think are women? Then it would be relevant to present the information in this bold and striking way. … | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.I'm not saying the article gives fair treatment - I'm saying that you can't tell based on this small graphic. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:22 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.There are lots of good reasons to base it on gender. Men and women have different healthcare needs, so there is a good reason to analyze gender statistics in suffering groups. What if homeless shelters had equal health coverage of mammograms and prostate exams, even though men make up a much larger percentage of the homeless? What if homeless shelters don't provide tampons/pads, even though females make up a sizable amount of the homeless population? That would be silly, and failing to understan… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.You didn't counter the fundamental idea that weighted against total population is not always the best way to interpret information. For an extreme example, would you rather know per capita how many serial killers are in your house, or how many serial killers are in your house period? For a realistic example, would a homeless shelter, in buying tampons, rather know what percentage of women are homeless weighted against how many women there are, or what percentage of women are homeless relative to… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:09 AM |
| 6 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.I'm not arguing that the article is justified in its used but that the voices currently dominating the discussion in the thread clearly haven't even read the article in question whatsoever, and that is a flawed way to interpret data. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/17 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.There are plenty of relevant reasons to occasionally analyze minority groups of people. That's like saying we should only cure all common diseases before moving to uncommon ones, sometimes the way to lower total human suffering is to work from multiple angles at once. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 11:59 PM |
| 3 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Minority groups within homeless population, as in groups that make up small amounts of the homeless. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 11:53 PM |
| 2 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Why would you necessarily be looking at relative representation per capita? That lens doesn't make much sense for plenty of applications, especially of the article is specifically about the lives of homeless people or the operation of homeless shelters. Per capita is often a useful way to look at data, but certainly not always. Your second point is also kind of non-sensical, if you wanted to know how many women are x, y, and z (distribution within a respective group), you wouldn't be helped by k… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 11:31 PM |
| 4 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.An article discussing minority groups in homelessness, an article discussing groups of economic classes of women, an article discussing changes in homes less demographics, and article discussing misconceptions about homelessness... | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 11:08 PM |
| 28 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.The information has absolutely no context, you have no idea whatsoever whether or not this is presented in a way that somehow implicates women are more important. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 09:12 PM |
| 53 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.Christ, this subreddit doesn't even pretend to be for equal rights. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 09:11 PM |
| 367 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.It's a picture of an out of context statistic clearly cropping out the information in the rest of the article. There are lots of situations where it is appropriate, relevant, even necessary to display the information in this way - most of which aren't sexist at all. What if the article is about women in population demographics as a whole? What if it's about minority groups in homelessness? What if it's about little known facts of homelessness? I don't see why anybody would freak out over stateme… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 09:09 PM |
| 10 | Apparently Homelessness is only a Problem if you are a Woman.It's a completely contextless figure clearly in the middle of an article. Who knows what the article about, what the statistic means in context, or its reason for being included. There are plenty of situations where the statistic being displayed in this way is completely appropriate and relevant. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/17 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Apply shit to burnt areaIt seems as if you have managed to completely fail to read my comment, yet respond to it with an argument that makes absolutely no sense given what I said. I didn't say that people are out of control of how skinny or large they are, I said that, while maintaining a healthy diet and physical activity, people are not all the same sizes. Some people are healthier larger and some people are healthier smaller. Obviously nobody is healthy obese, but it's not like if everybody took care of themselves w… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 04/03/17 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Apply shit to burnt areaYou can change your weight yeah, and nobody is healthily obese, but I feel like it's being disingenuous to act like its something that is really under somebodies complete control. Some people are just naturally larger or skinnier, and if they tried to deviate too far from that it would get really unhealthy. I've been scrawny my whole life and have decided no amount of working out and eating properly is going to change my physique, and it's the same with larger people too. You have control within… | /r/PussyPassDenied | 04/03/17 04:54 PM |
| 6 | Male disposability in action: woman slashes bouncer's face with a broken glass, walks free with no jail timeWhat are you talking about? It works for nobody. What feminist friends? What March against trump? I pretty sure I've commented on like one post on the sub, I'm not even subscribed. Besides that, you're making a strawman, as well as failing to justify how your original claim is in any way backed by any sort of evidence. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/17 08:14 PM |
| 4 | Male disposability in action: woman slashes bouncer's face with a broken glass, walks free with no jail timeAre you familiar with how an argument works? Because an argument cannot just contain a claim, you have to back it with some sort of logic. Not just throw insults. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/17 08:07 PM |
| 5 | Male disposability in action: woman slashes bouncer's face with a broken glass, walks free with no jail timeI can't even unwrap what you are trying to communicate. Who's "them"? Who's "we"? Who's "you"? Are you gay? Why non-feminine? Is "we" non feminine gay men, of which you are one? Is we just men in general? Is "them" non feminine gay men, of which you are not? What am I asking these gay men? If they are "we", how are they any more able to perceive "them" (whoever that is) than I am? What does "pulling over" have to do with women being so called children? How does their personal anecdote amount to … | /r/MensRights | 17/02/17 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Male disposability in action: woman slashes bouncer's face with a broken glass, walks free with no jail time[uncited] | /r/MensRights | 17/02/17 07:46 PM |
| 12 | Audi releases ad campaign based on the wage gap myth, then immediately debunks it with their next tweet. You couldn't make this up!It's why I said to read the whole page, a small definition doesn't really do the concept any sort of Justice. It's a lot more complicated and elaborative than just that, a whole concept/system of psychology. That definition isn't really even correct, it is not the state of maintaining conflicting beliefs, it is a strong internal stress created by such action. It's not just being hypocritical, it's a state of tension created - and it eventually has to resolve. It's when a soldier becomes stressed… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/17 01:05 PM |
| -1 | Audi releases ad campaign based on the wage gap myth, then immediately debunks it with their next tweet. You couldn't make this up!Please with this phrase. There's a Wikipedia page, just look it up and then stop using it incorrectly. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/17 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Minecraft creator denying pussy passGreat, a perfect goal. It really helps the total happiness of all humans. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 27/01/17 06:00 PM |
| 4 | Minecraft creator denying pussy passThat's not really helping. Being a dick to somebody with poor opinions never changed their opinions. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 27/01/17 11:56 AM |
| 14 | The hard naked truth in a nutshellPrivately owned and ran forum. It may not be a good thing but it's not infringing on your rights. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 26/01/17 12:06 AM |
| 0 | Male privilege.Where in his comment did he say it was men's fault? He said the data was cherry picked, which still remains true. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/17 08:21 PM |
| 0 | InterestingBut if the core tenant of feminism is, at its simplest, the promotion of equal welfare for women, then the supposition of the negativity of what aspects you're talking about does not lead to the notion that "feminism is bad", it leads to the notion that "those actions taken under the guise of feminism disobey feminism's central tenant and are such not actually feminism." | /r/MensRights | 14/12/16 01:51 PM |
| -2 | InterestingSo? Those actions are not mantras of feminism as a whole, they are actions that people who are feminists take outside of their being feminists. Disliking feminists is very different than disliking feminism. | /r/MensRights | 14/12/16 01:29 PM |
| 12 | 50/50I'm sure the amount of men that care about their children is roughly equal, and you would need significant evidence to prove otherwuse | /r/MensRights | 03/12/16 02:21 PM |
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